Timcast IRL - Trump Floats Using MILITARY FORCE To Take Greenland & Panama Canal w/Cliff Maloney

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Raymond are joined by Cliff Maloney to discuss Trump refusing to rule out using military force to retake the Panama canal, Liberals roasted for believing memes of Canada being conquered b...y the US, Zuckerberg announces Meta is getting rid of fact checkers, and California facing life threatening wild fires. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Raymond @raymondgstanley (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Cliff Maloney @Maloney (X) Cliff Maloney is a political activist and strategist, known for founding "The Pennsylvania Chase," a door-knocking campaign to mobilize Republican voters, and serving as CEO of Citizens Alliance. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In what I could only describe as an epic press conference, Donald Trump said that we're going to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America because you can just do things. And why not? Let's call it that. I could be wrong, but don't we have more coastline around the Gulf than Mexico does anyway? So let's roll, Trump. And then he was asked, would he rule out using military or economic coercion and force to secure the Panama Canal or Greenland? And Trump said, no, sometimes you have to do things, you know. And so, of course, everybody wants to imagine just like U.S. troops storming the beaches of Nook.
Starting point is 00:00:51 It's not going to happen. Trump was likely referring to using economic negotiations against Panama because there's a deep concern that Chinese companies are largely in control of the Panama Canal. So it makes no sense that the U.S. has given up this access considering we built it. But we'll talk about that plus another a bunch of other crazy stories. This morning, Meta announced their ending censorship. My friends, Mark Zuckerberg is a fair weather friend. OK, when Biden says censor, he does. When Trump says we don't want this, Zuckerberg comes back. Oh, no. OK, we're going to stop this. But putting Dana White on the board was a good move. So we'll talk about that. Plus, wildfires sweeping through the L.A. area and the Palisades, horrifying story.
Starting point is 00:01:30 But you know what's crazy about this? A viral video from earlier in the day of a homeless person in California, in the L.A. area, starting fires. Creating, starting wildfires. I'm not saying this homeless person in this video did it, but there's a very serious problem when you have people detached from society starting wildfires. I'm not saying this homeless person in this video did it, but there's a very serious problem when you have people detached from society
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Starting point is 00:04:15 Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Cliff Maloney. Great to be with Tim Kass Nation as always. Cliff Maloney here ceo at citizens alliance we're on a victory tour right now just got done winning pennsylvania with our pennsylvania
Starting point is 00:04:32 chase program and excited to continue to fight for liberty but excited to be here with tim right on thanks for hanging out raymond's here hey what's up everyone raymond g stanley jr american marine veteran uh baseline with the look of laughter And I'm looking forward to talking about some Manifest Destiny. Go America. Yes. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Let's go. Here we go from the New York Times. Trump floats using force to take Greenland and the Panama Canal. I would love to see a movie of just like U.S. troops storming the beaches of Greenland and the people of Greenland welcoming them as liberators of the evil Danish empire.
Starting point is 00:05:11 But in all seriousness, the New York Times says President-elect Donald J. Trump refused on Tuesday to rule out the use of military or economic coercion to force Panama to give up control of the canal
Starting point is 00:05:23 that America built more than a century ago and to push Denmark to sell Green control of the canal that America built more than a century ago and to push Denmark to sell Greenland to the United States. In a rambling hour-long news conference, Mr. Trump repeatedly returned to the theme of American sacrifice in building the canal and accused China falsely of operating it today. When pressed on the question of whether he might order the military to force Panama to give it up in violation of treaties and other agreements reached during the Carter administration, we all think fondly of the Carter administration, or to do the same with Greenland, he said, no, I can't assure you on either of those two. We need them for economic
Starting point is 00:05:58 security. The Panama Canal was built for our military. I'm not going to commit to that. You might have to do something. Mr. Trump's statements propelled his repeated calls for expanding American territory to a new level, one that is bound to royal three American allies, Panama, Denmark, which handles Greenland's foreign and security affairs, and Canada, which he has mocked as America's 51st state. I got an honest question. Cliff, why are they pretending to be mad about this you know i i think i'm more mad about it i mean if if canada comes in as a 51st state i mean i think we're gonna have some problems i think it's senate and the house yeah it's 41 democrat electoral votes yeah that would be no
Starting point is 00:06:38 no but if we if we subjugate them as a territory with no – or a colony, you know, no one's got any colonies anymore, you know. They can have autonomy under Trump, right? But then Trump can intervene as the new head of state. And as the colonizers we are, we could just go ahead and colonize them. But in all seriousness, like, Canada's not going to become the 51st state. You know what I mean? Greenland would be negotiated over a trade deal. Panama, of course, was built by the United Statesland would be negotiated over a trade deal panama of course was was built by the united states and would be negotiated over a trade deal this is like it's
Starting point is 00:07:10 performative outrage who really cares i could honestly envision a situation where panama was a flashpoint for a larger conflict so possibly a conflict between the united states the united states and china um particularly seeing is that's the reason that there's any kind of friction going possibly a conflict between the United States and China. Particularly seeing as that's the reason that there's any kind of friction going, you know, friction between the U.S. and Panama as it is. The U.S. did build it. The U.S. invested a lot of money. A lot of Americans died.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Malaria was a big problem back then. Yeah, but do you guys think they're becoming territories? Or do you think these would actually become states? So, okay, so as far as that kind of stuff, I don't want to see, definitely don't want to see Canada as a state, right? I don't know if we should, I don't think that I want to see Greenland become a state either. Territories, maybe.
Starting point is 00:08:00 But I mean, if I understand correctly, there's only like 50,000 people in Greenland. And so I don't know that they have enough people to actually become a state that might i think that the the actual number of people that live there has an effect on whether or not it can be a state um this is just my my basic understanding i think we should uh invade canada remove their government and then relinquish control so i think it was um what who it? Was it Polk? The US basically won Mexico in a war. And then Polk was like, hey, Mexico, you can have it back. We don't want it. And a lot of Americans were pissed about it. They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we won this
Starting point is 00:08:37 in conquest and you gave up all this land. So I'm looking at it this way. We can look at the Canadian government and see it's in total disarray. And I'm half kidding. Calm down, liberals and corporate press. But the U.S. putting pressure on Canada, like Trump did with Trudeau to remove Trudeau from power is exactly what I'm talking about. That's a good thing. People need to understand this. Trudeau resigned because the Trump tariff threats destroyed their government. They're panicking because they rely so heavily on us and us not on them. Yeah. So that's the kind of economic coercion we're talking
Starting point is 00:09:09 about, which I think is a good thing. I mean, like I was talking about it last night, like Canada exists because the United States allows them to exist there. Their entire defense is because of the United States. Now, they do have a military, fair enough, but the U.S. is NATO, right? And the U.S., it does, I think, 75% of the heavy lifting for NATO. The U.S., trade with the U.S. is what keeps Canada in business. If the United States wants Canada to do something, Canada's going to do it eventually. Like the U.S. will figure out ways to apply soft power, and they're going to do it.
Starting point is 00:09:49 They don't have the ability to stand up to the U.S. and say, no, we're not. We're putting our foot down. About the only thing that we're not going to be able to get away with is actually literally annexing the country. Right. I mean, let's be real. Donald Trump spoke on Truth Social about a tar tariff and Trudeau was removed from office
Starting point is 00:10:08 a fact basically I mean he's still there but he's basically done his career is over because Trump said some words on the internet yeah Canada is basically basically a vassal of the U.S. as it is so we don't need them to interfere in our politics Trump's going to get in and he can if he puts a tariff on Canadian goods they will drop to their knees and beg Trump to stop. And Trump need only say you're going to do we tell you to do. Yeah, I don't I don't understand why Canada gets to suckle the teat of America. And we have we get we give them special deals so that they can live in luxury. And then when Trump says we're going to put a tariff on your goods because it is only by our good graces you get free trade in the first place.
Starting point is 00:10:47 They lose their minds if we're doing something wrong. No, no, no. You don't get to just trade with us. We decide on our terms what a good deal is. And if the deal is not good, then you can go somewhere else. Good luck, Canada, with your reindeer. They got oil. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:11:03 And I'm not saying Canada doesn't have trades with us. Right. They sell us oil. They got tar sands. And got oil. I appreciate that. And I'm not saying Canada doesn't have trades with us, right? They sell us oil. They got tar sands. And we negotiate. And we have the right as a nation to be like, no, we're not interested anymore. We're going to renegotiate terms on this deal. Well, I think that Trump represents a lot of people pushing back on all these unfair deals. I mean, look at NATO, right? What did you just say, Phil? I mean, the amount of money that we pour into NATO and somehow we have an equal vote, you know, and it's like, oh, well, you know, and it's just that's just been that way for years. That's why I think you look at this photo of Trump Jr. and Charlie Kirk and Sergio Gore standing there. It's like, you know, look, obviously, this is all going to be peaceful, I would predict at this point yeah um but i think that yeah aren't we just kind of
Starting point is 00:11:45 tired of getting the low just we always are the ones that it's never fair for us and that's just accepted yep that's what's crazy about the panama thing you've got the new york times saying donald trump would violate treaty set by carter it's like oh we all hold carter in such great reverence yeah listen we built the thing. We want to renegotiate terms. We as the American people, we work hard. Trees were planted for the next generations to sit beneath in that shade. And what's wrong with Trump saying, I want to renegotiate terms?
Starting point is 00:12:16 And furthermore, to that point, the United States did build the Panama Canal, the U.S. has been the global hegemon that has kept the seas free for global trade for definitely the past 75 years. Some would argue for even longer. The U.S. Navy, just the fact that we have made the seas safe for international trade has made the United States a net positive for the world. No matter what else someone wants to criticize the U.S. for, the reason that all of the countries around the world can send their goods around the world. And about the only place that you have to worry about is if you're off the coast of Somalia. I'm the captain now. Yeah, because they get a little wacky. But other than that, the U.S. does have the authority to say, you can't dictate terms
Starting point is 00:13:20 on the Panama Canal because we built it and we keep the rest of the world safe to trade. The U.S. used to be a dad who would go to his kid and say, shut your mouth. If you want to buy the video game, go mow some lawns and make some money. And then it turned into the desperate, aging, cool mom who was like, I'll give you anything you want if you just pretend like you like me and you think I'm cool. This idea that the New York Times is like, we should just give all of these things to every other country. It's like, yeah, OK, well, that will destroy the United States. Why don't we be responsible? And I'll tell you exactly why this matters to me.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I hate war. I think we shouldn't be invading other countries. That's the scumbag option. The easy option is we maintain economic control of the things we build, the things we protect. We work trade agreements that benefit us. So we maintain strength and power. And then there isn't war because we have the economic control. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And that avoids death. And so that's why I've long said with Ukraine and Russia, Russia's in the wrong because they lost the soft power battle, which is subterfuge, which is economics and all of these things. So they resorted to physical violence. I think if we're going to be playing any kind of game, it's we have the power economically. We will brain drain your country, your countries. And I mean that in the actual sense, not the H-1B garbage.
Starting point is 00:14:36 We will take your breast and your breast, your best and brightest. We'll build the best companies. We will control the high seas. We will control what we build. You can trade with us. No more invasions, no war. We win through the best companies. We will control the high seas. We will control what we build. You can trade with us. No more invasions, no war. We win through economics and diplomacy. You know, I love the Trump line when he says, you know, they're always trying to grill him
Starting point is 00:14:53 on his foreign policy. And when he says, I want to end the dying, right? Because it really is that simple, right? There's always going to be, you know, troops in here, troops out there. But like, I mean, even the New York Times article we had up where they literally are saying in an hour-long rambling speech, you'd think there'd be some reset, which there isn't. They're just going to have to fail. Some there haven't.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yes, but I just mean to make it that obvious still, but when it comes to foreign policy, man, the institutions and they just hate the fact that that is Trump's gut instinct. He wants to stop the dying. And to me, I mean, that's just I still think that's one of the major reasons why he got elected. Yeah. Is this idea that people are tired of having no I mean, Biden couldn't even speak a sentence, let alone pick up the phone to call these foreign dictators. Trump represented at least some rational thought. Afghanistan was the moment Joe Biden's approval rating inverted. Dropped.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Because we saw the death of U.S. men and women in uniform. We saw the complete and utter collapse of a 20-year investment of the United States, for better or for worse. If you want to argue we shouldn't have gone there in the first place, there was still an effort to maintain security and keep China and our enemies from seizing this territory. And it fell apart overnight because Joe Biden's a moron. The plans they had for Afghanistan, as Ian calls it, was a surrender.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And every move they made, there's no logic within it. This flipped things in this country because many people in this country don't like war. So when you see tensions escalating, the expansion of ISIS, etc., you know what's funny is that in Trump's term, he crushes ISIS. No new wars. Ukraine actually was cooling down. When in 2014, when I went there and the beginning of the separatist movement, it was bubbling up. I wasn't there when it broke off into full on conflict, but they were calling it a civil war erupting. You went to Ukraine or Russia?
Starting point is 00:16:44 Ukraine. I was in Ukraine three times. So I went there in 2014 at the start of the Yermaydan protest, which ultimately led to the ousting of Yanukovych, which ultimately led to the separatist movement, and then what people were referring to as a civil war. I came back after Trump was president, and you know what my friend in Ukraine told me?
Starting point is 00:17:02 No, no, we don't call it a civil war anymore. There's some fighting now, but it's really calming down. And I'm like, OK, wow, that's pretty crazy. I was like, really? I thought it was going to be like a civil war or something. And then Biden gets in. And what do you get once again? I think. Yeah, exactly. It's insanity. The Biden administration, Obama, Kamala, Hillary, all of their ilk have no idea how to manage the system. And Trump's been right the whole time. I think people saw all of that. And they also recognize that Trump's joking half the time he's being silly. Or, you know, when it comes to like the use of military economic force, we're not going to see the military invading Panama. But the media still pretends like it's it's 2019 or it's 2022. Yeah, no, it's changed. People saw through this, and it's time we got some sound foreign policy. Well, and Republicans now are backing off.
Starting point is 00:17:56 We've talked about defend the guard, the bill that bring our troops home runs. And now Republicans, this will be a big test. Do they keep pushing forward? You know, because we do. I mean, all these guardsmen are overseas. That's one of the best bills at the state level. And so that's going to be an interesting test to see because it's easy when Biden's in the White House, right? But if you've got a Republican president and you want to limit the guardsmen that they can use, this is the time to do it. I think Trump would support it publicly, even though he's the guy, but that'll be a big test in 25 to see if those bills go forward.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Trump posted this on Truth Social. It's a picture of the U.S. and Canada, but it just reads the United States. And these are the memes that have been popping up all over the place where there's one funny one where it's like Mexico is South America. Then we're America. And then Canada is North America. And then Greenland is like American territory. Phil mentioned he saw a funny one. That was, it just said
Starting point is 00:18:47 where Mexico was just at the other side of the wall. Agreed. The other side of the wall. We don't talk about what's beyond the white wall. But we got a response from where's that silly post? Here we go. This is the Liberal Party of
Starting point is 00:19:03 Canada and then everyone's favorite Harry Sisson reposted it. Oh, gosh. We've got to get that quote shirt somewhere. These people just can't have a little fun. They're so, so busy hating Donald Trump and hating the right. They can't just acknowledge that these are all jokes and it's just fun it's just a little bit of friendly ribbing to our neighbor to the north but people like Harry Sisson just are just hall monitors and miserable awful people the Liberal Party of
Starting point is 00:19:38 Canada said for anyone who may be confused and then Canada is not the United States and then the US is the US, I don't think they understand what conquest means. You don't get a say. Yeah, exactly. We are well aware that you think you're sovereign Canada and we're coming. And the funny thing is, we will be greeted as liberators. I mean, there's at least
Starting point is 00:20:00 a couple problems. My truckers. Truckers will love us. Farmers will love us. Truckers will be honking and cheering as Americans come in and they're like you now have a bill of rights. I think the people that will have the most problem with it is the French in Quebec. They don't even like Canada, never mind the United States being in charge.
Starting point is 00:20:15 What we do is when the US conquers Canada by literally declaring it and walking in let's be real, what would happen? I'm half kidding. I'm only half kidding but uh what we do is we remove the canadian government reform it as an american constitutional style uh liberal democracy they call it i don't mean liberal but it's called a liberal democracy gotcha and then we uh quebec becomes its own nation with its own american style constitutional democracy and then we leave. Goodbye.
Starting point is 00:20:46 They would probably be way better off than they are now. Where do you think Pierre plays into this? Well, you saw what he tweeted, right? He tweeted, yeah. He said, Canada will never be a part of America. You know, I stand by blah, blah, blah. Let me pull up. He's great.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I mean, I understand the national pride. That's fair on his aspect. I would be saying the same thing. That's the right answer if you're looking to be the prime minister. Here's what he responded with. He said, Canada will never be the 51st state period. We're a great and independent country. We're the best friend of the U.S.
Starting point is 00:21:14 We spent billions of dollars and hundreds of lives helping Americans retaliate against Al Qaeda's 9-11 attacks. We supply the U.S. with billions of dollars of high quality and totally reliable energy well below market price. We buy hundreds of billions of dollars of American goods. Our weak and pathetic NDP liberal government has failed to make these obvious points. I will fight for Canada. When I am prime minister, we will rebuild our military and take back control of the border to secure both Canada and the U.S. We will take back control of our Arctic to keep Russia and China out. We will axe taxes, slash red red tape and rapidly green light massive resource
Starting point is 00:21:46 projects to bring bring home paychecks and production to our country. In other words, we will put Canada first. He did spell paychecks wrong. I just want to point that out for everybody. Probably French. The Frenchie. Yep. Yep. Gunther Eagleman says, Hey, Pierre, cooperation is appreciated, not required. Didn't you push for tyrannical covid mandates? Don't think we didn't watch as you towed the line too. We will make you a territory and you won't be able to do anything about it. Adrian Curry says you are the size of California and populace and exist because America permits it. Unless you'd rather be chun as much.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Good call, Adrian. I'm sure she's in the chat now. I like Pierre though. We do think he's a real deal? I don't know. I just, I've seen a couple of videos that are good. I'm not big in Canadian politics because they're less consequential than New Jersey. Yeah, agreed.
Starting point is 00:22:32 I just have seen some comparisons to, like, Javier Millet, and I'm like, yeah, let's pull it back here. Easy, tiger. Those are big shoes to fill. Pierre's not going to go in and cut cut whatever, seven or eight different government agencies. Like, that's not happening. The things that I would sacrifice or give up if we had Millet in our government. Just, like, even if only for a week for him to come in and afuera a whole bunch of these bureaucracies. But to be fair, I'm hoping Doge fulfills this role.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Fingers crossed. Yeah, that's my biggest fear is it doesn't happen. And look, my whole pitch is this. The battle is going to be simply Doge versus the Swamp, and everybody out there thinks they know which of these politicians are on which side. You will be surprised. When some of these battles come out,
Starting point is 00:23:24 there are going to be people that have been saying they were Doge for an entire year, and not the ones that you're thinking. I'm not talking to Lindsey Graham. You'll have some of these Republican congressmen who always talk a big game, but Elon and Vivek have to make it very clear where is the battle, which bills,
Starting point is 00:23:41 because the Swamp is going to do everything they can to just distort i mean this first battle with the cr if you don't think the swamp's not coming back with the same stuff thank god for grock doesn't trump want an omnibus now yes yes but i think he wants it look everybody loves an omnibus if it has all your goodies that's right right so yeah he's pushing for that he's also said maybe multiple bills but i don't't care. I just want Doge. Look, if they're going to do real things, let's say they're going to actually cut departments. Let's say they're going to say we're going to cut spending.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Even 1% would be a record if it's actual cuts of 1%. It would be the most libertarian thing that has happened to the federal government in at least the past 40 years, probably ever. And let's say they say, hey, we're going to cut 10 of the staff of the bureaucracy right that's that is earth-shaking getting that in a clear simple not to say simple package but having it where it's like hey this is the battle if you have a battle every week it's going to be tough to mobilize against the swamp and so that's where you just need that that musk precision uh on some of thesege versus Swamp I can't believe I have to clarify this, but we are not seriously suggesting the U.S. invade and conquer Canada.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Like, it's a joke. We're making fun of the frailty of the Canadian government. Trump simply posted on Truth Social about tariffs on Canada, and it destroyed the Liberal Party leadership. We don't have to do much to make Canada do what we want them to do. I don't want Canada to be part of the U.S. either. To be fair, like, the Liberal Party and Trudeau have done so much damage to themselves over the past, you know, however long Trudeau's been the prime minister.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Like, they have done so much damage that it doesn't take much to cause great damage because he's, like, historically unpopular if I understand correctly yeah he's like a 28% or something that nuts but back to what you are saying about an omnibus bill I was talking me and me and Cliff were talking I think that it's okay because if you want to get things like the the wall built want to get actual change to the policies regarding the border. If you want to get that kind of stuff and you put it in an omnibus bill, the omnibus bills are more likely to pass. They're going to have more stuff that you don't like, but they're going to have all the stuff that you do. And if you have it broken up into multiple bills, you're going to
Starting point is 00:26:03 have a harder time getting these bills passed. Again, I bring up the makeup of the Senate and the House. The Republicans have a razor thin lead. So what's going to have to happen to get anything done? It's going to have to be through working with the other side. We just don't have the votes to shove stuff through. I wish we did. And I would love to, I would love it if we did. This is not some kind of endorsement of having a bunch of pork in the bill, but if you want real change with the border and with immigration, put it in an omnibus and then let the Democrats stuff it with pork. I hate it. I know. I hate it. But the bill will pass. If you really care about fixing the border
Starting point is 00:26:49 and really care about building the wall, you're going to have to work. You're going to have to deal with them. You are correct. We don't have the votes. Single-issue bills would take a millennia, and Trump would never get anything done. So the one argument I do accept is
Starting point is 00:27:04 we're going to have to accept a lot of compromise to get through what we want to get through through an omnibus, even though we despise the omnibus, CR, all that garbage strategy. I will accept if we want to get started immediately, then the Trump agenda needs a solid, straight package. That being said, my concern and why I don't like it, it's not just going to be pork. It's going to be obstruction. It's going to be loaded with Democrat garbage obstruction to stop the Trump agenda. And there's an argument we may be better off with Trump getting single issue bills passed. Sure. On a thin margin. But if he does, if they're
Starting point is 00:27:40 done fast enough, you can get them through before the squishy Republicans back down and start voting Democrat. Yeah, but nobody's talking about putting things into these omnibus bills that are actual cuts. That's what I'm waiting for. We're talking about all of the spending. We're talking about the priorities with, oh, more money. The swamp loves that. The swamp loves that money. I don't think cuts are on the table.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I think that to get funding changes, I don't think that Doge the table. I think that to get funding changes, I don't think that Doge is going to be working that way. Doge is not going to be saying, oh, we're going to get legislation that makes cuts. I just don't think that, again, we don't have the votes. And again, I don't like any of this. I'm not happy about this at all. But if you don't have the votes,
Starting point is 00:28:25 you don't have the votes. The government is is set up the way that it's set up. And no matter how much we sit here and pontificate about how much we wish it wasn't this way or whatever, it doesn't matter if we don't have the votes. We don't have the votes. And we have 18 months from when Trump goes in to get this stuff done. But this means with these omnibus bills, Johnson's going to go to some Democrat and say, what do we got to do to get you to vote yes on this bill? OK, or he's going to go to the Swiss Republicans, of course, and they're going to say, I want these compromises. And then they're going to try and get a narrow majority or whatever. They don't need they don't need that many Democrat votes to get through.
Starting point is 00:28:57 But it does mean there's going to be some kooky stuff in there from weird districts. Yeah, I think I put it this way. I really hate the idea of continuing the omnibus garbage, but I'm at the 50.1% mark of just get it through so that Trump can do what he needs to do. Otherwise, I'm afraid it won't happen at all. Yeah, we got to start doing it now. And if we just keep waiting and trying to fight it,
Starting point is 00:29:24 if we don't get it done, then it's a waste of next. But let's let me let me play devil's advocate a little bit. So, like, OK, let's say Vivek and Musk come to Trump and say, look, you don't have to do this for legislation. We can cut, you know, two departments. Anything that he wants to do. Executive order. I'm for the goal. Cut.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Then you do it as much as he wants to annex Canada. But then, you know, they'd have to adjust it. order? I'm for. Go. Cut me. Do it as much as you can. He wants to annex Canada through executive order. But then, you know, they'd have to adjust it. I mean, listen, if the FBI, I'm just using numbers here, let's say the FBI gets $100 a year, obviously they get much more, and we cut 10% of their agents or these IRS agents or whatever you're looking at,
Starting point is 00:29:59 you have to reduce the money. If you don't, they're going to spend the $100. But they're going to spend what they're given, and it just means it goes to less people. So to me, and by the way, 18 months, I think we got 100 days. I do not think this is something where you get two years, you have 100 days to get things in motion,
Starting point is 00:30:16 and then maybe 18 months to get them done. But this has to be just, I mean, every single day, they've got to be firing things out once January 20 gets here. 100 percent. Yeah, I don't see them as one issue. Let's get Doge to focus on the cuts and Trump can focus on the agenda. They can both happen.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I do think, however, where it overlaps is there's going to be squishy Republicans and some Democrats that are going to be given a deal in order to vote for the omnibus package, which is going to block some of the Doge cuts. However, with the majority, slim as it may be, Republicans don't need to compromise that much. And so there may be some cuts that need to happen that don't happen. But I do think we're in a net positive so far, as much as I don't like them going the omnibus route. I really don't know what else you'd do at this point yeah i mean i'm glad trump's got four years i just wonder if you guys would be okay with the money to uh ukraine and israel if like we got the border closed and you know got some of our the mag agenda done oh
Starting point is 00:31:15 man yep that's that's that's such a difficult question yeah because this country will not survive with the destructive immigration policies that have been happening over the past four years and even longer. And so the question is, should we exacerbate international conflict? Okay, well, here's the double-edged sword. If that is the deal, and you may be hitting the nail on the head with this one, what they might try to play. If we get international conflict, we're going to end up with 20 million refugees. And they're going to be storming the southern border overnight. Not literally overnight, but they're going to say, oh, no, look at all the displace from the war and the conflict.
Starting point is 00:31:55 They have nowhere to go. And then we're going to be dealing with it even if we secure the border. So that is a that is a tough spot to be in, because if they're going to obstruct our ability to secure the border over their desire for international conflict, we're at a rock and hard place. And that's a really good point. I say specifically because there's gonna be Republicans who say that there's going to be a ton of Republicans who are like, I'm in a military district. Oh, yeah, we need funding for the manufacturing. We want funding for the bases. So when you say you're spending money in Ukraine, that goes to our city where we make these weapons, where we build these supplies, where we refine the fuels, where we train the troops. They're going to say, we want that. We want that spending.
Starting point is 00:32:27 No, that's their talking point. But here's the thing. If that's the position we're in, this is how pessimistic I am about Republicans' ability to actually negotiate. If that's the situation where that's the trade-off, I'm not here to advocate for it. I don't believe in any foreign aid. We have to do all these caveats today. Like, look, we're talking about reality.
Starting point is 00:32:45 We're not talking about anything we want. But if it's that and hitting our priority versus hitting our priority and then them adding in some gobbledygook woke DEI or something, that to me is like, that's usually where the Republicans end up. It's not something that is like, oh, this is kind of a hot button issue. It's like, no, they push in their things so they can go back to their base and their donors and they can act like, see, we're still winning on these progressive values. I know this wasn't your point, but DEI stuff, Harmeet Dhillon is going to do a really, really good job taking care of that stuff because it is illegal. And she's running that part of the DOJ now. So sweet. So that that would be. But you get what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I do, yeah. It'll be some sort of weird green news scam thing rather than, hey, let's have a real debate on something that's contentious. Yeah, but look, I think we all kind of agree that the border and immigration are the most important issues to the American people, to the average American person. Like, and it doesn't matter if you're white or black or whatever, you listen to the people in South Chicago and they are complaining about immigration and stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:54 So it's like, are you looking to the black community there? And so if you're going to give us a secure border and fund ICE to go ahead and round up the illegals that are here and actually do deportations and fund the necessary equipment to transport people back to their countries of origin, I think that you're going to have to deal with. I think I would be okay with pork if you're going to be deporting, actually deporting people. Well, I'll put it this way. I'm willing to.
Starting point is 00:34:28 It depends on the pork, right? I guess it's the easiest way to put it. The compromise is fine so long as the compromise is in areas we're okay with. If they come in and they say they want $50 million for creepy DEI stuff and they want weird books in our schools, we say no. If they come out and they say, oh, we want to fund one particular local thing, and we're like, that's a compromise I don't really care about. Yep. Fair enough. Let's jump to this next story from CNN.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Ladies and gentlemen, Meta is getting rid of fact checkers. Zuckerberg acknowledged more harmful content will appear on the platforms now. I love how CNN frames this. Censorship is over. Zuckerberg basically comes out and says, we give up. Harmful to who? Yeah, harmful to who indeed. will appear on the platforms now. I love how CNN frames this. Censorship is over. Zuckerberg basically comes out and says, we give up. Harmful to who? Yeah, harmful to who indeed.
Starting point is 00:35:09 But I love using CNN as a source because of the way they frame things, and we can rip this apart. We do have the video, however, from Zuckerberg himself, where he, this is a quick clip. Here we go. We're going to get back to our roots and focus on reducing mistakes,
Starting point is 00:35:22 simplifying our policies, and restoring free expression on our platforms. More specifically, we're going to get rid of fact-checkers and replace them with community notes similar to X, starting in the U.S. Well, there we go, ladies and gentlemen. Let me just tell all of you first and foremost, you know it, Mark Zuckerberg is a fair-weather friend. When Trump was the enemy and the media was screaming, Facebook just said, we will do whatever you say. When Trump wins, he comes out and says, OK, I guess free speech. I don't trust the guy at all, but I'll take the win when I can get it. So right now, as I've been talking about
Starting point is 00:35:56 this for the past couple of weeks, we're a podcast. We negotiate with different ad networks. They do sales and things like this. And, you know, whenever I'm negotiating, I'm like, oh, and by the way, like, don't forget, we have Facebook. Facebook is a platform where we get X amount of views and all that stuff. And we're not really monetizing there. We don't post ads. Every company we talked to says Facebook is dead. They're like, nobody's making money on Facebook anymore. I mean, it's a little bit, but it's just pointless. Mark Zuckerberg burned the biggest social media platform to the ground. The most important thing he said in that whole speech he gave was that he didn't say it directly, but he said it. The U.S. government targeted Facebook and forced them to do these things. But I want to make sure I stress this
Starting point is 00:36:38 point. Mark Zuckerberg is a very weak man. OK, I'm not trying to rag on you, Mark. OK, I'm not trying to be a dick. But let me just tell you, I respect the doing the BJJ training. I respect trying to get into shape. I respect you doing the right thing right now.
Starting point is 00:36:51 But I don't trust you because when Elon Musk joined the fray during a major cycle where Trump, and he brought a bunch of people back, not perfect,
Starting point is 00:37:00 you know, what he was doing on X, but he did pull back some of the censorship. The SEC and the FTC went after his companies. They tried to destroy him. A judge suspended his pay package. We, the shareholders of Tesla, then voted to reinstate it, and they still blocked his pay package.
Starting point is 00:37:17 He took great and tremendous risks because he wanted this, whatever you think his reasoning was. And Zuckerberg bent the knee until it was all safe and all clear. Yeah, and I think, look, I think that Zuckerberg probably, now some people say, no, it was intentional, Zuck Bucks, all this stuff on the left. I think he got played. I think he got played. He went in, he thought, I'm doing the right thing. I mean, if you look at the narrative of kind of the American electorate, I think it follows Zuck, right? The average experience of like, you know, oh, well, you know, these institutions can't be bad. Of course, we all need to get a jab. These are health officials telling us to do this, right?
Starting point is 00:37:54 Oh, we need to back it up and we need to stop misinformation. We have to stop the disinformation. And then I think it got to a point where he realized, like, man, they used me, right? They used me. And now he's got to survive politically. He's got to be able to push back and try to save his company. So I don't feel bad for him, but I would say that I don't think it's all intentional. I think he's just reacting and probably realizing that they manipulated him. Yeah, I think you're probably right about the about the idea that he just didn't realize what was going on because it was bit by
Starting point is 00:38:27 bit you know it was small things um he trusted the government yeah and i mean he was he was a democrat beforehand anyways like he said that he was a libertarian but like we're talked like that but don't tarnish our brand listen there is nobody better at tarnishing the libertarian brand than the libertarian. So, yeah. I'm going to stand like this as I respond and say, dude, he didn't get tricked. He's just like, this is the path of least resistance. Also, the reason I'm standing is that my right thigh has cramped completely locking up. I ran on Sunday, Monday, and then I skated today, and now my right thigh is just completely locked up. I can't sit down anymore. With the jogging thing?
Starting point is 00:39:11 Yeah, I was jogging. Yeah. I hate it. Yup. And now I went skating today and can't sit down anymore. But yeah, come on. Elon Musk bought himself into this conflict. They tried to block the sale in the first place, attacked him in every direction. And Zuckerberg has always just taken the path of least resistance. I'm fine with Zuckerberg, with Cenk Uygur and all these people. I'm not like, there's a lot of these MAGA guys who are like, no, don't welcome them. Hey, take the power where you can get it. You know what I mean? If Zuckerberg is not going to open up Meta so we can start using the platform, making money, promoting content, sending a message.
Starting point is 00:39:46 It's a good thing. And I will add that putting Dana White on the board means that even throughout the next administrations, it's going to be a shield against this kind of censorship. Yeah. No, I would agree. And I think, look, I don't want to discredit Elon. You know, when I compare the two, I think Elon Musk, in my opinion, saved free speech in America. I mean, I think let's think about it. If he doesn't take over X, I mean, you know, yes, we've got some of these other platforms popping up.
Starting point is 00:40:13 But it was like, like you said, Tim, the guy risked everything, put his money on the line, his freedom, his ability to own these companies, the control of them. And I think, you know, he bet not just on the right horse, but on the right idea that the people were going to be with him. And I think they are. I think the long or the long and short of it is if Zuckerberg is going to end the fact checkers and they're going to have something like community notes and they're going to actually try to open up to have free speech be a principle on the platform i think it's an overall good that doesn't mean you have to like zuckerberg that doesn't mean you have to trust him i'm not like i post on my instagram page
Starting point is 00:40:56 a couple times a month maybe like i don't use meta properties i don't use messenger i don't have a facebook page that i run or that I use. I closed my personal one down, like my public personal page down in like 2018 because they do the whole throttling, you know, where you can't get your people that follow you don't see your posts. I had like, it wasn't a big page. It was like 60,000 or whatever. But like I would post something and maybe like 150 200 people would see something see it so i'm just like all right well there's no point in posting anything on here i'm not i'm not getting anything out to anyone and i post on even back then posting on twitter i knew more people were seeing what i posted on twitter than on on on um
Starting point is 00:41:41 facebook so i i mean i'm not saying that he's a he's a a guy to mean, I'm not saying that he's a guy to be trusted. I'm not saying that Facebook is the be-all, end-all. But look, if there's a person that's saying the same things, like free speech is important, these are the things that we should care about, that's good. Cenk Uygur talking about that stuff, that's good. Anybody that's going to stop being, you know, being ideologically motivated by what the government and what the left has been pushing for the past, you know, 10 or so years. Anyone that's moving away from that, I say we welcome them in at the very least to say you can listen to what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:42:19 That's not saying again, not saying that you have to trust them or anything. Yeah. What did what did anybody think was going to happen? Because I've seen, there's a lot of people I respect who are saying, do not welcome these liberals in, who are now coming around and saying, oh, you know what? Oh, like, like, Jen Cougar is the perfect example. And the point being made is the liberals who came out before the election and said, I've realized we got to do this and help Trump win. Everybody's OK with that. They're like, we get it. Not everybody figured it out the same time. Some people figured it out in 2015. Some people figured out in 2020. I was late to the party, of course. And the question is, did you try to help Trump win or did you fight against him?
Starting point is 00:43:02 And now that you've lost, you're turning it around I get it I think it's fine to criticize these people but what did anyone think was going to happen when we won these people are going to beg to be on the right side of history so I say look take the power where you can but just recognize you can't trust them in the long run yeah so if if Cenk Uygur is going to his audience and saying, MAGA's not that bad, say, thank you, because I'll tell you what's going to happen. He's going to go to his audience. He's going to say, guys, listen, we've got to work with them.
Starting point is 00:43:34 They won. We get it. One, if one person who watches Young Turks says, it's a fair point, I want to get stuff done, and then they go and they watch this show. Then they go, I didn't know that. Then they say, you know, I'm more moderate than I realized. Jen's an okay guy. Tim's an okay guy.
Starting point is 00:43:50 We're winning if that happens. So when Mark Zuckerberg says, no more fact checkers, you can now talk about immigration, gender, and all this stuff, we're winning. I don't like Mark Zuckerberg. It's not personal. It's professional. I think he just bends the knee and does whatever he's told because it's a cheap and easy path. But if we get this, this is big for us.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I got to talk to my marketing team and social media team and be like, let's take a look. I'll tell you this. We barely use Facebook. And the reason why is every time we put out a video, they're telling me like, well, you mentioned the word trans. And that's probably going to get you demonetized for a week again. And I'm like, I'm upload whatever you can upload, I guess. And so we just basically ignore it. And not to mention TikTok, you know, and they're like TikTok, Trump's Trump's now saying, I don't know, maybe we'll keep TikTok around. No, TikTok is still miserable. It's the most censorious platform. I hear it 50
Starting point is 00:44:46 times a week from all these different people who are like, I got banned. I don't know why. And I'm like, yeah, okay. TikTok's terrible, right? Let's not cut them any slack. If they want to change and reform, we'll accept it. But I don't think we should cut the censorship platforms any slack. That being said, we can now start using Facebook again. And I'm hoping this means we can actually make money on the platform and it becomes a successful path And it was titled Republican electorate slate submits electoral votes to, you know, for safe Harvard deadline or whatever, which is a fact statement they did. And this organization fact check it as false, claiming they are not the certified electors, which was not what I claimed. Facebook demonetized the channel, costing me money and basically de-ranking my posts.
Starting point is 00:45:47 And when I messaged Facebook, because there's a contact at Facebook, they said, this is an independent fact checking thing. You have to get up with them. When I emailed the fact checkers, they ignored it and said, it's not a true statement. I ended up on the phone with some guy and I said, my statement is a 100 percent factually correct statement. And I will cite The New York Times. And he's like, yeah, but it's not the real certified slate of electors. And I said, did you watch the video? And he's like, no.
Starting point is 00:46:13 And I said, the first thing I say in the video is that the Republicans who were not certified and are not the certified electors cast their votes votes unofficially, and they're doing it as potentially a placeholder for a lawsuit. And he goes, oh, and I'm like, uh-huh. He's like, oh, I'm sorry, we'll remove that. And that was every day that these companies were doing things like this. Mark Zuckerberg knew what they were doing was wrong. He said in this video that they were politically biased. He knew it. And only now that Trump wins is he going to back off. But fine, I'll take it. I'll take a win when we can.
Starting point is 00:46:47 This is what we fought for. We fought this political battle so that people like Mark Zuckerberg would put out a five-minute long video saying, I'm sorry. Well, the one part there, too, he says is, and this was widely known, but they're going to change their algorithm to, you know, they were kind of suppressing all political or, you know, civic speech. Yeah. And that was, you know, like you said, I'm in the same boat, right? I've got a small Facebook page, but I haven't used it really actively for years because, Phil, like you said, you know, you're putting all this content up and it's just they're obviously throttling it. So the fact that he's going to, you know, at least give us a fair shake, I think that's just going to be better for everybody.
Starting point is 00:47:25 This is the best story. Phil pointed this out to me. This from The New York Times. So the first let me give you the context before I read the headline. Mark Zuckerberg puts out this five minute long video saying we're getting rid of fact checkers. We're getting rid of the censorship. You can talk politics again. The fact checkers were biased.
Starting point is 00:47:41 So The New York Times writes Meta says fact says fact checkers were the problem. Fact checkers were biased. So the New York Times writes, Meta says fact checkers were the problem. Fact checkers rule that false. Fact checking groups that worked with Meta said they had no role in deciding what the company did with the content that was fact checked. You see, this is the dirty game they play. No one takes responsibility. But I love, I love the headline of fact check false. It's Facebook's fault, not ours. They were the henchmen.
Starting point is 00:48:08 And Facebook was and this is the dirty game. Facebook says, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest? The fact checkers say you got it, boss. And then Facebook says we didn't ban you. We didn't accuse you of anything. There was an interesting thing, however, when this what came up in the whole fiasco over Facebook fast fact checking, I actually entertained a possible lawsuit against Facebook and a couple of these companies because in Meta, I should say Meta, not Facebook.
Starting point is 00:48:37 If a fact checker on Instagram determines that your post is false, it is not the fact checker that puts a label on it. It is meta. Meta puts a label saying contains false content. That's a statement of fact that your content is false. And so I think it was early on. I don't know if they kept this up, but it would say like it had like an eye with a slash through it and says this post contains misleading context or false content or false information or something like this. That's meta, making a statement defaming you, a media producer. And so we never got to that point where we were thinking of suing, but this was not them passing the buck off to third parties. Facebook was using them as an excuse to then make statements where they could say, you can't sue me because they said it was fake news.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Just as long as at the end of the day, if everyone realizes with Chris Cuomo, a chunk, uh, Mark Zuckerberg, that they're not our friends at the end of the day, just, just,
Starting point is 00:49:34 we get past that point. They're not our friends. Let them do what they want to do. Come to our side, try to suck our toes because we're winning, but they're not going to be our friends. Don't let Chris Cuomo suck your toes, please.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Gosh. thanks. I agree with you. Um't let Chris Cuomo suck your toes, please. Gosh. I agree with you. But again, like Tim was saying, what do you guys think winning looks like? You know what I mean? Sucking our toes. No, no. Anyways, winning looks like people want to be around you
Starting point is 00:50:02 and people come over to your side and start agreeing with you. If you say, you can't hang out with me like the Libertarians do, you end up losing all the time. So take the victory when you have the victory. Libertarians, I love you on the anti-war stuff, but I can't stand you on the cultural stuff. I can't stand the Libertarians. Sorry. I can't stand them at anything. Dave Smith can sit here and be like, war is bad. And I'm like, but I can't stand you on the cultural stuff. I can't stand the libertarians. Sorry. I can't stand them in anything. Dave Smith can sit here and be like, war is bad. And I'm like, you sing, Dave.
Starting point is 00:50:29 But when the other libertarians are like, who cares about our borders because the economic numbers are great? I'm like, oh, heaven help me. I want to throw Dave into this because the Mises Caucus is great on this, actually. But there's a lot of these libertarians who are like, why do we care that 15 million illegal immigrants stormed through our border? Yeah. The economy is good. And I'm like. It's an epidemic.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And, you know, the one thing that my favorite Roger Stone rule that I now equate to libertarians is losers don't legislate. And that is my new rule for a lot of these folks. It's like, have a plan, man. You know? But no, I don't even look at those libertarians as actual libertarians. The Ron Paul, Dave Smith, Tom Woods type libertarians, absolutely. And those people realize the border is a real problem and it is impacting. I mean, the fentanyl crisis is a crisis. You cannot just say, oh, let's just open the border. But it's not so much as that. It is. But my issue is the
Starting point is 00:51:24 libertarians. Why is the border a crisis to me? Well, obviously, you've got trafficking, child trafficking, abuse, drugs. Those are the direct bad. Why is all mass migration bad? And I will say this. I'm a fan of immigration. I like the O-1 visa. The O-1 is the extraordinary talent.
Starting point is 00:51:42 So if you've got a pro athlete, a PhD rocket scientist or whatever, they can come to this country. We'll take them. That's the brain drain, baby. We love that. But when you bring in millions upon millions, legally or otherwise, the American culture is something Sam Hyde hit the nail on the head with the hammer. You saw that video.
Starting point is 00:51:58 It's unquantifiable. It's waking up in the morning at the smell of cinnamon pancakes and coffee that mom's made. It's an orange juice. It's Christmas morning. It's Halloween trick-'s waking up in the morning at the smell of cinnamon pancakes and coffee that mom's made. It's an orange juice. It's it's Christmas morning. It's it's Halloween trick or treating. These are things that don't exist in other countries that are not economic. They have nothing to do with whether or not the border has drugs or anything like that. Those are bad things. It has to do with whether or not we love our lives and want to share them with our children. The whole like I'm like the whole back in the day, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:25 you used to have to learn English and blah, blah, blah. There's legitimacy to those arguments. And I do think that, like, you should have to learn English if you come to the United States. I do think that it would be cool if Congress made the, you know, had an official, said that, you know, passed a law that said there was an official language and that it was English.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Like, and you have to learn English to be an American. And I think that I was under the impression that the H1 visa, what is it? H1B visa was the same thing. It was actually what the O1 is. Nope. That's the lie. That's the trick they use. Got me. Yeah. I didn't know that there was a distinction. I didn't realize that
Starting point is 00:52:59 the H1B visa was just being abused as much as it is. and so like i have no problem with the o1 visa either the h-1b we can get rid of it i think it's fine if we shut down a lot of immigration like we could cut immigration down to like a trickle and i'd be perfectly fine with it i do think that it's good it would be good if the people that are here that are not americanized did assimilate i do think that that should be something that we good if the people that are here that are not Americanized did assimilate. I do think that that should be something that we demand of the people that come to the United States.
Starting point is 00:53:32 You should come to the United States and become an American. If your ideology doesn't line up with the American ideology, you shouldn't be allowed to come here. It's not racist to say your culture doesn't fit in with ours and you can either, if you want to live life according to the old ways that your culture has, go back to where you came from. If you're going to come to the United States, you come to
Starting point is 00:53:58 become an American. And I don't think that, I don't understand why there's such a problem with that or why people have decided that's a problem. It's perfectly fine for there to be a bunch of different countries around the world. And you're a lot of the places will allow you to go to where you go, the place that you prefer. Donald Donald Trump wants to have military parades, which was like a normal thing for everybody for a long time. It is not fascist.
Starting point is 00:54:23 It is. We have pride. Yeah, we have we have a strong military. We're proud of those who sacrifice for the long time. It is not fascist. It is, we have pride. Yeah. We have, we have a strong military. We're proud of those who sacrificed for the United States. It's strange that Trump's like, well, let's honor the men and women in uniform and have a military parade. And they're like, that's fascism because it's showing off military might and power. It's like, we love our veterans. We, that's like every country does. They want to destroy us, our values, our traditions. And they have claimed when we say things like we don't like happy holidays, I'm not going to cry about it, but I say Merry Christmas
Starting point is 00:54:51 because I love Christmas. And I understand it means a lot more to most people than it does to me. To me, it's I got group Catholic, but it's largely just family American tradition. I do respect the Christian moral values that have shaped this country tremendously. And I think these are things that we should maintain, uphold and cherish. And the left wants to convince you you're an evil fascistic monster for saying, I love what my parents gave me. That's that's insane. The idea that you would teach your children discipline and morals is not fascism. The idea that you want to celebrate those who would sacrifice to protect your way of life is not fascism. The idea that you want to celebrate those who would sacrifice to protect your way of life is not fascism. And this is the game they play when we try to say things like, hey, man, we're for legal immigration so long as it's not at the expense of the American worker
Starting point is 00:55:34 and the expense of American culture. We love it if people want to move to this country, but they have to assimilate. We respect our veterans. We support our troops. We believe that policing can be and largely is a great institution. We all recognize there are problems. Nobody thinks everything is perfect. There's corruption. We are the things I love. My parents gave these things to me and I'm going to give them to my kids. And I don't want 15 million non-citizens for any reason coming here and then making us erase those traditions and put up a holiday tree. That's not what it is. I went to the mall and we had Santa Claus and we had a Christmas tree and there was a tradition there. And it's okay that we love those things and want them to be protected saying, i would prefer that my local mall continue this tradition has nothing to do with authoritarianism or attacking
Starting point is 00:56:29 minorities yeah we too we need to stop uh doing what we got here like a great point you had before tim was uh how the christians turn the other cheek and are tolerant of others and other and allow them what they do because as long as they're doing away from us and they've been doing it to us for years, and we're done with that. It's time to be over with that shit. Look, man, we see the far left engage in violent, deceptive tactics to put weird books in the schools to teach kids about adult graphic content,
Starting point is 00:56:59 and they tell you when you say, hey, oh, I think that goes too far, they say you're a white supremacist, fascist, far right, et cetera. Enough. Much like the racist thing has fallen out of meaning anything because everybody's racist now. The same thing should happen to fascist, far right. We should be proud to say, look, man, I grew up on apple pie, baseball,
Starting point is 00:57:18 and Christmas trees, and I'm going to keep that tradition up. Okay, and we're going to make sure that in our city centers and when our town comes together, you know, out here in Ranson, West Virginia, that a large tree lighting ceremony on Christmas and they call it Christmas and they called it a tree lighting ceremony. We don't need any of this non-denominational generic holiday season celebration. I'm not for that. And it's not authoritarian to say if my tax dollars pay for it, I have a say in what it
Starting point is 00:57:44 represents. So when I go to town hall meetings or when I'm talking to the locals authoritarian to say if my tax dollars pay for it, I have a say in what it represents. So when I go to town hall meetings or when I'm talking to the locals, I say, hey, I pay for this too. Christmas tree. And then they're going to call you a fascist. Nah, get out of here. I say, look, H-1B, I get. But it's abusive. It's abused. And it displaces the American worker.
Starting point is 00:57:59 And it's causing cultural decay. I don't care what you call me. It's a fact. These libertarians. I don't know how I got on the libertarian rant, but you get the point. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being a nationalist if you're proud of your nation, proud of your country. They just take it the wrong way. They take it, I mean, something else. Well, I think we talked about this earlier. I think 2025 is the year where we're just kind of done with the guilt.
Starting point is 00:58:20 You know, this guilt of having to admit or like to watch what you're saying because they push so hard. Like, you know, they force you. It's the what's the cancer walk on Seinfeld? Oh, the red ribbon one? Yeah, the red ribbon. You got to wear your ribbon. You got to wear a ribbon. Where's your ribbon?
Starting point is 00:58:36 And it's like we're just done. I'm done feeling guilty when I do nothing wrong. I'm done feeling guilty because my parents' traditions I want to pass on to the next generation. I agree with that. Christmas. The idea that you should feel bad about yourself, you should know yourself enough to know whether you're a fascist or whether you're some kind of bigot. And if someone says something to you that doesn't reflect what you actually are, you should not worry about it. Yeah, I agree with you. No more guilt. I don't care. Look, dude, I want people to live peaceful lives, happy lives.
Starting point is 00:59:11 But there is a line. And we talked about this quite a bit. You know, I've had this. I've been thinking a lot about this idea of the slippery slope, what it means to be liberal. I think I've very much fallen into the I'm falling into the post liberal camp. That's not necessarily conservative, but it recognizes the failings of classical liberalism. Carl Benjamin, the Lotus Eaters podcast, they're really great on this stuff. And I think one of the things that was a big moment of recognition for me was the slippery slope isn't one direction. They always try to make the claim that slippery slope is in one direction. It's not. It's a slippery ice rink where no matter which direction you go, you're is in one direction. It's not. It's a slippery ice rink where no matter which direction you go, you're sliding in that direction. And so the point we brought up the
Starting point is 00:59:51 other day was when we as rather liberal individuals, I don't mean you guys, because I know like, but you know, I grew up in this liberal area and we said like, gay marriage is fine. These people want to be in their own homes with who they love and they should have the tax benefits. If someone goes to the hospital, they should be able to go and visit them. I'm like, yeah, oh, that makes sense. And now they've used that to argue children should get adult material in schools. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm totally opposed to that.
Starting point is 01:00:14 They call me far right. They call me conservative because I'm now saying stop teaching kids about this kind of adult fetishism. That's not reproduction. So we fight back, right? We get in the political arena and we say this is enough. We don't want it. But then you go in the other direction. And now Obergefell, we talked about this yesterday, was a five to four decision. If this ends up going to the Supreme Court again, it likely would get overturned. And then you're going to have only, I think, like 36 or 38 states that actually have gay marriage.
Starting point is 01:00:43 And so there is no happy medium. If you say, OK, fine, we're totally cool with gay marriage. You end up with the argument liberals have made is that in schools, teachers are gay married and they the kids want to know about they'll see a picture of the person's husband. I'm not kidding. This is literally the argument they made. They were on a ton of videos and they were like, what happens if a student sees a male teacher's husband and asks about it? Are they allowed to explain it? And I'm like, perhaps they could say that's something for home to ask your parents and not bring into schools. They argue, however, it's discrimination under the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include male, female sex ed and not female, female, male, male
Starting point is 01:01:27 and all other genders. So see, the issue is it's not that they've incremented us in that direction. It's that the moment gay marriage happened, that argument existed and they used it and said, we will sue you for violation of civil rights because you can't have heterosexual without homosexual sex ed. And I had a liberal actually argued to me when I said, you actually think these books with fetish weird stuff in it should be a lot for kids? And the response I got from this dude, he's a friend of mine, was sex ed has been in schools forever. What's the problem? And I said, this is not sex ed. This is fetishism. And he goes, no, it's just that people experience sex differently. And I'm like, and there it is. The moment the ruling comes down, the argument exists. Now people are pushing back and they're saying, we don't want this. You get a Donald Trump. Donald Trump puts more, three more
Starting point is 01:02:17 conservative justice on the Supreme Court. If Obergefell goes to the Supreme Court, it's likely to go six to three overturning it under the argument. Hey, it's not a question for the Supreme Court. Maybe. I don't know if that happens. But my point is there's no happy medium. There's no middle ground. It's it's a slippery slope in all directions. And I think sometimes it has to get bad enough for people to wake up on all sides. Right. Look, how does a Ron Paul libertarian become a diehard MAGA guy who thinks that Trump has to win the White House. Well, when they started saying they were going to cut off the private parts of our kids, maybe that woke me up a little bit, right? I think sometimes it gets to this point where you're like, what are you saying? There's no way you're arguing that. You're talking about these people are actually arguing this with a straight face. But I think you're right. I mean, it can happen from different angles. But a lot of
Starting point is 01:03:01 this, we were like, how did we get here? Sometimes being principled means allowing monstrous behavior, and I'm not okay with that. Like, being principled is like, well, you know, it's not my kid. Well, you know, if the parents want it to, then okay. F that, man. It is not okay to mutilate children's bodies. Let's jump to the story and talk about where these liberal policies get us. From the Daily Mail, apocalyptic inferno
Starting point is 01:03:29 rips through celebrity-packed L.A. mansions as thousands run for their lives but are blocked by gridlocked traffic. Now, I hope everybody is safe. This is a tragedy. It's horrifying.
Starting point is 01:03:39 And I am not blaming these people who are suffering for anything directly. This is just, wildfires happen. It's a tragedy. However, California is largely mismanaged.
Starting point is 01:03:52 They don't do what do they call it? Forest floor maintenance, a brush maintenance. A lot of work has to be done because, you know, the reality is throughout history, outside of civilization, wildfires happen because the brush falls down, the tinder builds up, fires start, it burns it all out. Now we got people living in these places. It means we have to do forest floor management and they don't do it. But you know what? There's going to be a lot of breaking news in this stuff. I hope everybody is okay. But now I'm going to throw some shade over at California because this video was going viral. Here's a video from Fire Photo Girl. Unbelievable. I'm literally fighting with a homeless person who is lighting fires. She told me she is doing a good thing.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Colton Jurisdiction. So this video is apparently in the eastern, it's in San Bernardino, which is maybe about an hour east of the LA area proper. The Palisades are on the western side. So I'm not saying this homeless person started the wildfires, but this is literally a video of what appears to be a homeless person starting a brush fire. And when you have a massive and dramatic escalation of homeless or what I would describe as people removed from society living in your communities, you're going to get these wildfires. You're going to get crime. You're going to get violence. And so I just want to make sure that people understand this. This isn't the only video. There's a, I got a story for you guys. Let me, let me, let me pull this one up
Starting point is 01:05:13 from kget.com. 2024 sees rise in fires in Bakersfield, suspected to be started by homeless people. Bakersfield, California. This is a story from December 31st. Fires are being lit in California by homeless people. If they came out into the Palisades fire or these other wildfires were started because of the homeless people are starting them. I'd say, well, yeah, we have the news reporting. So here's what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 01:05:40 I'm not trying to say anything about the Palisades fire and who started it. We don't know. I don't know. But I'm saying California is a perfect example of liberal mismanagement and failure of a state, and it's sad. Are you telling me that a community largely comprised of mentally ill people happened to start a lot of fires, too? You've got to be joshing me. You can't be serious look the a massive part of why there are homeless of why of the homeless people that there are is because they're suffering from mental illness i personally think it's probably a good idea to re to bring back uh involuntary commitment and bring back state
Starting point is 01:06:25 facilities to take care of people that are mentally ill. That's tough. It's really awful to think because they were being abused before, but man, I don't think that it's actually more humane to allow them to live on the streets, to allow them to use drugs. The island.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Greenland! No, let's not su solely beautiful, beautiful Greenland. Canada. Yes. Yeah. Yes. The Yukon Territory. You don't need to waste money on social programs to send them up north.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I mean, look, it's like you put a million monkeys in a room and eventually they'll write Shakespeare, right? You put a million mentally ill people in the Yukon Territory, eventually they'll build a city. Eventually. I mean, in all seriousness, though, how do you help deranged, unwell individuals who are starting fires? The answer is not to let them roam about homeless, hungry, and derelict. The answer is, I'm not going to say it's necessarily to forcefully round them up and put them into facilities and mental institutions or anything like that. I'm saying right now, whatever it is they're doing ain't working and it's getting worse. Well, Trump, you know, I know this is probably not something he's going to push for, but he always does specifically talk about, you know, when the people are coming over the border, they're from a sane, insane asylums.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Like he uses those those words quite a bit. I'm with you, Phil. I don't really think there is a better answer. I mean, I think it was Austin, Texas. They had this fund that was set up that said, hey, we will fund a billion dollars if somebody can come up with a plan to fix homelessness. Or let's say it was a hundred million, right? And they put the brightest minds on it. And it's like you cannot fix crazy. Yep. These people, most of them are drug addicts, alcoholics, but they are crazy. Substance abuse and mental illness of homeless people is a Venn diagram of a circle.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Yeah, so I think anybody that thinks there's an easy solution here, but at what point does the left finally admit or realize that trying to fix fix this is not like when do they hit that point when their own house gets burned down when they stop being on the left? So Anna Kasparian is the is what happens, right? If you listen to Hassan, Hassan Piker, if you listen to him, he will come up with a whole slew of excuses as to why it's the stresses of capitalism and blah, blah, blah, all kinds of garbage. But when it becomes a reality like it did with Anna Kasparian, then they say, OK, you know what? The leftist policies that I've been endorsing and that I've been voting for and that are instated that have been stated in California, they just don't work. And so you stop being a leftist, which is what happens, because the leftists are wrong.
Starting point is 01:09:07 They're idiots and they're wrong. That's only because she's, like, sane. Because we've had examples in the past where, like, the one guy got killed and the girlfriend went and fought for the guy who killed her boyfriend. There's too many scenarios where they want to help, you know, they're crazy themselves. If he'd have assaulted her, it wasn't personal enough.
Starting point is 01:09:23 And it sounds horrible. She just killed a public. I know, but it sounds horrible her, it wasn't personal enough. And it sounds horrible. I know, but it sounds horrible. But she wasn't actually assaulted. It was her boyfriend. It was another person. What story are you talking about? The one where the guy got stabbed and then she's defending the guy that stabbed the... Yeah, it wasn't his fault.
Starting point is 01:09:38 It's racism and whatever. You know, he's hurt and his mental health. She was sticking up for the guy who killed her boyfriend. If she had gotten stabbed, it would have been a different story. It was like last year. It was a big story. But like, the thing with Anna Kasparian is there were multiple issues. Multiple things. She was sexually assaulted, and then
Starting point is 01:09:54 there was all the people giving her crap because she said, don't call me a birthing person. So it took a few different couple rounds, you know, a couple things to happen to get her to say, okay, I'm over this. But that's generally what it is. It can't be, or it's rarely just one because that stupid moron from the majority report, that Emma Chick, she got elbowed in the face on a subway one time. And she's out there, down there making excuses.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Oh, I wouldn't want him to have to go to a to a facility i'm i was scared and stuff but you know it's it's more important that he get to elbow people on the subway than for me to be not elbowed the homeless stuff the homeless issue stuff really gets me on the left it's one of the most annoying things because these self-righteous 2020 people who have never even tried like kyle kalinsky i wrecked on him a while ago they have no idea what they're talking about they've never actually dealt with the problem they have no idea what it is and in their minds i mean you got to understand this is a guy who doesn't know what a farm looks like yeah he thinks a homeless person is a guy who like got laid off from work and is like oh gosh darn if only i had opportunity in this country and the billionaires
Starting point is 01:11:00 didn't rob me blind i'd have a house the reality is homeless people are like i need a hit i need a hit i need a hit i need a hit and you're like uh excuse me sir can i get you a blanket or food you got a hit got a hit you got a hit and you're like uh are you are you saying you need drugs and i'm like i can't talk to this guy anymore i don't know what to do yeah that's homelessness sometimes i bumped into homeless people who are like yeah yeah, man, look, I'm not interested. I appreciate the help. This is this is where I live by, you know, and they were of sound mind, but they choose it. When I was in Seattle, you got a lot of teenage homeless kids and they're like, we want to be here. Go away. They choose. There are kids who hop on the trains and they ride them through the north to the northwest intentionally to meet up with other derelict,
Starting point is 01:11:46 rail-hopping, homeless kids. It's like, to them, it's cool. There's no getting those kids off the street. Listen, I don't talk about this too often. My sister's on the street in Kensington. Fentanyl, definitely fentanyl. It's been 14 years. And I tell people, like, there's this weird,
Starting point is 01:12:03 you know, the first four or five years with the addiction, you're like, Hey, you know, here's some money. Let's put you in rehab. Let's put you in rehab. Hey, you need a place to stay. Let's put you in rehab for the 10th time. Let's put you in rehab for the 15th time. Right. And you get to a certain point. She's my sister. I love her. I'm rooting for her. But you know, for your own sake of like after five or six years, it's like they, if they don't want help it's on them homeless homelessness is a choice because if you choose to do the things that keep you homeless even if you're like oh i would love to have a home okay well then you got to stop doing heroin you know
Starting point is 01:12:37 and it's like if the choice is stop doing heroin and go into a facility that sets you on the on the path to getting into a home but you don't stop doing heroin you're choosing to remain homeless and the issue is you know why because i worked i worked for a homeless shelter the reason why you don't really bump into a lot of people who are of sound mind and homeless is because they quickly are not homeless because there are tons of non-profits and organizations that will give you a clean suit, give you a place to sleep, help you get a job, and help you get an apartment.
Starting point is 01:13:09 The problem is, the people who are largely homeless are mentally unwell. And the answer of just let them do their thing isn't solving the problem. But when you run into a guy who's like, look, man, I lost my job, and then I couldn't pay the rent,
Starting point is 01:13:23 they just evicted me, and I've been sleeping out here for a week, The shelters go, you want a room at a house? And they go, yes, please. And they take it to say, we'll wash your laundry for you. There's breakfast downstairs and we'll start, you know, we're talking to various places that have job opportunities and they go, thank you so much. And then three weeks later, they're like, I saved up enough. I got an apartment and you're like goodbye and they're not homeless anymore yeah it's it the problem is that people allow that states municipalities allow people to stay on the streets if you may if you don't allow them to stay on the streets you go in and you clear out the
Starting point is 01:13:56 homeless encampments you knock their stuff down i mean it's a little on the rough side yeah but you know you you tell them they can't stay on the streets, they have to keep, if they're continuously moving around because the cops are shoving them off and stuff, then they end up deciding it's too much of a pain in the butt to stay homeless. And then they'll go ahead and start doing the things they need to do to get
Starting point is 01:14:17 off the streets. But if you allow them a place to shoot drugs, you know, they're going to continue to shoot drugs. And that means that they're not going to get into a place. What was wild was how quick society became numb to it. I mean, if like anybody who spent any time in some of these cities, right, it's just like, I mean, especially we always talk about San Francisco, but we just were so okay with it.
Starting point is 01:14:38 You know, right away it was just like, oh, yeah, you know, the police aren't going to prosecute. They're just going to shoot up heroin. They may have overdosed. They may have died. And that's just, that's just how it is here in San Francisco. That to me was wild. How we went from zero to a hundred and you know, people, when they go to the city for the first time, it's like this eyeopening experience. First time I went to New York, right. My parents for the first time ever were like, Hey, there's a homeless guy over there. Right. And like, you remember that and like now it's just, it's just commonplace.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Yeah. I mean, I was just in, uh, in Florida and there were homeless people on the beach. There's like sleeping on, you know, on the, on the beach and it was fine if you allow. And that's in Florida where you would think, oh, they would, you know, shuffle them along. I don't understand how there are homeless people in the cold towns, the cold cities. Oh, bro, Chicago, they live under bridges, and the way the overpasses are built is they're really long,
Starting point is 01:15:31 because it's like an eight-lane highway, and so then you've got these, like, probably four-foot-tall, it's a four-foot-tall cement block, and then every, maybe, eight feet is a pillar, and each of them they lay down on top of the block in between the pillars so as you're walking on the sidewalk you pass like eight homeless people who smell like
Starting point is 01:15:52 feces and urine that's chicago you know and they and they pile up yo it was really wild um at the um whereas we call it the picasso i forgot what the name of the building is, but this is years ago. I'd be downtown in the middle of the night. Me and my buddies would be skating. It's like 20 years ago, and you'd probably see 300 homeless people lying randomly, and it's like 40 degrees out, and they're just lying all in random places
Starting point is 01:16:17 all over the ground. Yep. No shoes. It's got to be cold as F. No, they got shoes. Well, I mean, I've seen people without shoes, and, you know. No know they they have like yo they have probably two shopping carts full of possessions each and so they have mattresses under the bridges and then sheets are laid out and then they build
Starting point is 01:16:36 little houses dude i went to dc what was like a couple weeks ago and you can see the tents lining the the they have those uh those walkways or the roads that go that they have underpasses where i don't know what the name of the locations are but you know in dc they have like you go under and a lot of traffic there's just homeless tents around them so on the top where you you know you're you've got the bridge there's just like six homeless tents and we saw tons of them everywhere and i'm like man who'd want to be here that's crazy yeah and the cold like you said the cold i mean yeah that is amazing they can last through that let's jump to this story from the daily mail let's talk about a good friend bill maher
Starting point is 01:17:13 bill bill maher aghast as he shuts down iconic sitcom star for floating disgusting reason that trump beat harris oh boy if you don't want to talk about that politics at all. Well, I shouldn't because I really started this podcast to get away from it. So you're right. I guess John Cryer. Yes. But I don't know. Sometimes people say things that trigger me. And of course, we just had the election. And I feel like I my conscience is very clear. I warned everybody about Trump and that I warned them that I warned them about what would get him reelected, which was stupid wokeness, which is what got him reelected. So I feel my conscience is very clear that I told you and I told you and I told you and I lost fans for it.
Starting point is 01:17:57 You know, lots of the super woke. Maybe it's because you're wrong. Like I'm not I'm not woke enough for them. Yeah, but like, I think I had it right. Like, that kind of stuff is what lost the election for the Democrats. It's in all... Maybe part of it? I don't know. I think a lot... They have polling on it. Well, I think it's inflation. I think Americans hate inflation. They hate inflation,
Starting point is 01:18:18 they hate riots, and they hate black women. And they hate trans people. Oh, God, John, we're not gonna... Dude, they just spent hundreds of millions of dollars humanizing trans people. And that's disgusting. Yeah, we shouldn't talk politics. Okay, then you shouldn't.
Starting point is 01:18:33 You shouldn't. Bill's cooked. You don't have to. And this, you know, I mean, I have this... Okay, so the first thing I'll say is they do hate inflation. Yes. They do hate riots.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Yes. They don't hate black women. No. The trans issue is not about trans people. It's about the gender ideology as a whole. But I love how Bill just breaks down like, oh, it's happening again. Right in front of my eyes. You've learned nothing.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Yeah. Learned nothing at all. I mean, John Cryer looks good, though, right? Sure. He looks like a Wilt Chamberlain. I didn't even recognize him. He doesn't look like he's, you know, suffering from HIV or anything like that. Here we go. And it kicks off, ladies and gentlemen. You ready? You're asking too much often to rewrite, like, the idea that when someone is born, there is a default setting for humans, male and female. Not everyone is.
Starting point is 01:19:27 Now, a real conservative would say, no, everyone is. I would never say that. But there are chromosomal spectrums. There's a default setting, but then there's a whole other section, and that's great, and we should protect those people. But don't pretend there isn't also a default setting, and you can't rewrite the world so that every baby is just a jump ball. Oh, it could be anything.
Starting point is 01:19:53 No, if it's got a dick, it's probably a boy, and if it's not, we'll deal with that in a compassionate way, but we'll also be apprised of the idea that children don't know shit about anything. Yes, sometimes it is obvious, and we should address it that way. But I mean, kids, Christ almighty. I mean, the idea that I would, as a child, would have had to have dealt with something like this? Well, again, the people that go through it
Starting point is 01:20:22 don't say this is the life I want. No parent wants to be in the midst of those choices. It's terrifying. Some kids these days actually just do want to be trans. It's cooler, John. I don't agree. Who cares if you agree? I don't agree with Bill Maher. That's the name of the show. Well, your eyes are not open to that. Okay. Okay. There are some kids, especially is it so much more prevalent like here than Indiana? Are they suppressing it there? Maybe a little. Yeah, there's a societal suppression,
Starting point is 01:20:51 but it's like left-handedism. Oh, it's a terrible example. It was suppressed for thousands of years amongst human beings. It's actually not true. Apparently in the 30s, scientists basically said left-handedness doesn't actually do anything.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Right. Left handedness shot up. People just stopped training themselves to be right handed. And this is a this is a you know, this has happened societally before. So this is where we're currently at. They've learned nothing. They will continue doing the same things. Amen. And I say if that allows us to win and gets us through the midterms, thank you, John Cryer. I appreciate it. And talk about his regurgitated talking points. Like, at least you'd think maybe there'd be some nuance. And it's like you can see it in his eyes that he's not going to get invited back to these cocktail parties in Hollywood if he doesn't speak up because, you know, Bill was hitting on just all
Starting point is 01:21:45 of the basic points. And it's just the same thing. We've heard it, what, for eight years, 10 years now? It's the same talking points. And thank God they've learned nothing, like you said. I mean, I don't know that I want to say thank God because I think that the country would be better off if they weren't, if they had learned something and we didn't have these stupid fights about, you know, whether or not children are born a sex or not. Like the idea that, just the concept of assigned a gender at birth, that is absurd.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Every time Allison and I are out, you know, she's very pregnant, and people are like, so do you know the gender of the baby? I always respond with, oh, well, we're not going to know for at least 10 years until they tell us, and then everybody laughs
Starting point is 01:22:33 because in no reality, like, it's the funniest thing. There's this viral video where there's this, like, fat leftist woman, and she's like, I'm non-binary, and then someone says, what gender is your cat?
Starting point is 01:22:44 And she goes, it's a boy. And they're like, how do you know? And she's like i'm non-binary and then someone says what gender is your cat and she goes it's a boy and they're like how do you know and she's like he has boy parts and then it's just dead silence for like 30 seconds it's like yeah but i'm not trying to get into all that the the key point here was bill maher's mental breakdown as he's realizing like there's no escape right he's right there are polls showing that it's not the only reason or even the top reason. Immigration and economics were the top factors. But the Wall Street Journal referred to gender ideology as a sleeper issue. And then you can hear John Cryer immediately go, he may as well have just said, Bill, you've said a thing that will get me kicked out of the cult. So I'm going to pretend to oppose you.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Exactly. Yeah. I mean, it is. I disagree with Bill Barr. I mean it's just. It's so ridiculous. Because the whole of society. Is starting to reject this stuff.
Starting point is 01:23:37 You've got the whole. The stuff with the Tavistock Clinic. In the UK. Which was. Yeah I mean which was. One of the preeminent. to bring your trans child, I guess is a fair way to say it. And even they've stopped doing it.
Starting point is 01:23:53 All over Western Europe, they're starting to say, okay, we're not going to allow children to have hormone therapy and stuff like that. But you know what the real inflection point for us? It was when Disney said they were removing that transgender storyline from their kids' show. Was it Disney or was it Pixar? I think it was Disney, right? Disney Plus was doing a show,
Starting point is 01:24:15 and then they were like, we're taking this character out. And then all of these LGBTQ people were like, oh no, we're being oppressed or whatever. And it's just like, I think the American people are just telling you you've overstayed your welcome and you're we're over it. But like I said, man, if John Cryer wants to go on Bill Maher's show to his limited audience and then be as woke as possible, I actually hope more people see it.
Starting point is 01:24:39 And I would consider sharing his show because I think this will help us get it'll get us to the midterms. The big concern right now is and I mean this seriously. The big concern is that we've got what, 16 months, 18 months for Trump to get through his agenda before the squishy Republicans start just crying and refusing to vote for anything because they're afraid they'll lose in their district and the Democrats will then take the House. So it's got to happen now. If people like John Cryer and Bill Maher want to keep having these arguments, I say, I welcome it. Please do more of these shows. Then we'll get to the midterms and we'll get four years to accomplish the Trump agenda. Yep. Because even the sane, I guess you call them sane, old school Democrats, they are not for this transing of kids and
Starting point is 01:25:21 transing in schools and all that whole scenario of sexual ideology. They don't want nothing to do with that and i'll tell you that but it's the other thing too where he says like the american people hate black women and it's like oh no they don't that's so ridiculous like beyonce is one of the biggest celebrities in the world oprah i know seriously yeah what's crazy is that no one believes it like they're literally saying these things and like i mean sometimes you say crazy stuff and maybe okay half, half the Democrats believe that. But like this is like two percent of the population actually thinks that the American people that believe that Republicans are the caricature that the left says they are. So they believe all of the like all of the moral failings that they that they see in humanity. Yeah, they believe that the Republicans embody all of them. So they're all racist. They're sex sexist they're misogynist it's the whole deplorables comment that hillary clinton had the whether or the garbage comment from um
Starting point is 01:26:31 by the biden these these these attempts to you know dehumanize uh republicans i i do think that there's a significant plurality of americans that still believe that because they've they have you know the inclination to believe that Republicans and their political foes are bad and it's the whole team sport thing and blah blah so I think that it's more than just two percent but I do understand your uh your point your point but I mean look it's not going away either. That's something that's been, you know, that kind of stuff has been a thing for a long time. Yeah, I've seen a video with James Klug and Lisa Elizabeth that they were talking to people on the streets of Philadelphia,
Starting point is 01:27:18 and they think that Trump has a Mein Kampf next to his bedside and Hayler is one of his idols. Well, look, the one takeaway that was wild, we had 30 black dudes that chased ballots for us specifically in Philly. There you go. And I don't know what it was, but man, John Cryer might have had it half right.
Starting point is 01:27:41 It wasn't Republicans that hated black women. These black dudes could not stand kamala harris i mean like and these are not you know all these are republicans and some independents and moderates but like you want to talk about people that did not in in a in a way that kind of one sect of people they just could not stand her um and so maybe there's a problem they should address on that side, but not to try to come after these, like I said, these talking points that are just,
Starting point is 01:28:11 it's wild that people are still saying them. Indeed. As an aside, my brother gave me these glasses. I wore them briefly on like one episode. I thought I'd seen that. It looks familiar. Yeah, I was like pretending like I was sleeping. But the funny thing is, is that apparently, I shouldn't say this, but I'm going to say it anyway.
Starting point is 01:28:33 The way the Teslas work now, it used to be that you had to put your hand on the steering wheel. And then what people started doing is they would put ankle weights on their steering wheel, which would create resistance. And that's how the Tesla would know that you were paying attention. If you take your hand off the steering wheel for too long, it would start flashing and then it would disable auto drive. Now the camera in your car, because it's a camera staring at you the whole time, stares at your eyes.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Yep. And if your eyes go off the road, the screen starts flashing. So it's like we're on auto drive. I'm driving in like either the Cybertruck or the Tesla, the Model S, sorry. And it's like self-driving on the highway. And so it's a straight shot. And then I look down at the radio and I'm like looking up
Starting point is 01:29:11 and then I'm searching through the net. You have to type in, it's a touchscreen. There's no tactile buttons or anything. And I'm typing in like goodbye yellow brick road. And then it starts flashing red, like pay attention to the road. And I have to look up for a second, then press enter.
Starting point is 01:29:24 You wear these glasses. That's the new thing they're doing. So you can't text and drive? Oh, those actually really? Yeah, people are wearing fake eyes on glasses and going to sleep. And the Tesla will drive. If you wear sunglasses, I was just doing this the other day. If you wear sunglasses, the Tesla won't actually stop you.
Starting point is 01:29:43 It won't stop you. Really? It does notice if you have a device in your hand. It says on mine, it says device detected in hand. So if you're sitting there on your phone. You're texting. Yeah. Which is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:29:55 If you want to text, you have to turn autopilot off. So that way you can text and drive. Okay. And then. What if you put tape over the camera in the cabin? So it'll just be like, can't do it? Probably. Because when I first got mine, I was like messing with my phone.
Starting point is 01:30:13 And I was trying to get it. I was trying to just like record the autopilot. And it got all pissed off at me and said that I had one strike. And if you have like five strikes, they'll turn off your your your full self-driving you you covered it no no I was I was you know I just I'm just saying but if I assume if you cover it up they'll be like it'll be like y'all I don't know yeah it so if the if any of the outside cameras are obstructed you can't turn it on so in the snow you can't turn it on because the camera turn the car on or the auto drive the auto drive you gotta drive yourself and uh it's really funny too,
Starting point is 01:30:46 because I've never had the thing help me. It's great when it drives itself. It's totally fine. You sit down, you press go and you sit back and you just like, and then it goes. But there have been instances where it slams the brakes on for no reason and starts going beep, beep, beep, beep.
Starting point is 01:31:03 And we're like, what is it freaking out about? Like there's nothing in front of us. And then there are other instances where it didn't stop and I almost got into an accident. So it was auto driving. I was in Hagerstown, Maryland, and there was a car that was slowing down, not doing anything untoward. It was a normal slowing down, turn right. And the Tesla kept going. And then probably two inches, I jerked the wheel and slammed to the left and dodged the car. I was like, what the? It wasn't slowing down. Crazy. Musk has said that they're going to have
Starting point is 01:31:29 full self-driving unsupervised released this year. 2025. Yeah. Let me tell you. Maybe in cities, but out here, there's a portion of the road where the right side drops down like 15 feet.
Starting point is 01:31:46 And you might know where this is because you probably see it when you leave. The road's broken. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Yes. Uh-huh. I'm nervous about getting out of here tonight.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Yes. Well, so there's only one spot within like 10 miles where for about 10 feet, the right side of the road, where should be a small foot median, it's cracked off. As fault split, right? Yeah. And it drops two feet or maybe like a foot. Yeah. Auto drive can't see it.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Yeah. So I was driving, I was driving the other direction. So it wasn't on the side and it was on auto drive and it was, it's 35 mile an hour speed limit and a tree was sticking out and the car hit it. Like a tree fell down and it was a small branch but it did scrape the side, car hit it. See, I think you're right that it's city. So I had a Model Y
Starting point is 01:32:33 and I got rid of it because I moved to Missouri, the middle of nowhere, and I realized that not having a charger within 50 minutes of my house was probably a problem. But you're exactly right. If I was in Kansas City or if I was in a major city,
Starting point is 01:32:48 it worked like gold, right? But when there's not the familiarity, when there's not all the cars pulling in the data all the time, I had to get rid of it. It just was not, I couldn't do that. This is all going to be fixed in the next three or four years anyway. Well, here's the other issue. I do think it's fascinating that they no longer rely on sonar.
Starting point is 01:33:04 That was a big issue, but then they were like, cameras are better. But the thing is, in a storm, it doesn't work. So how is, like, can Waymo drive in storms? I don't know. We took Waymo when we were in Phoenix a bunch of times. Yeah, but it was crystal clear skies. That's why they do it in Phoenix. Because of the
Starting point is 01:33:19 weather. But out here, you get a thunderstorm and it tells you no self-driving. So how are they going to have full self-driving auto cars out here you get a thunderstorm and it tells you no self-driving so how are they going to have full self-driving auto cars out here when it's raining or snowing i assume that it's going to be you know it's one of those things where like you know you're just gonna be like well i can't use it now because of the weather just like you know when you there's weather that messes can't go to work it's no but like in all the movies where the sci-fi they have the self-driving cars how will we get to that future when these cars can't drive in inclement weather
Starting point is 01:33:51 i think it's going to take a there's going to be better technology i mean there's just no way you can't you can't build it and rely on it and then all of a sudden it's like hey you know that's the thing it's it's so they switched from sonar to cameras so they originally used camera and sonar then I remember they were like, we're no longer in use sonar because it's not as effective. But cameras can't see in inclement weather. Right. So it's like, what do you do? I don't know. I don't know. F-35s can't fly in the rain, but we still got them. Is that true? I don't think it's a debate. It's a debate. Yeah, it's it's an issue with the with the issue with the avionics package. Yeah, but come on.
Starting point is 01:34:28 We all know that's a cover-up because our gravitic propulsion drones are real weapons. You know it. Yeah, it's kind of weird how that kind of slowly just faded out of the news cycle. Very good. And like the FBI, is this true the FBI said the email was real? That guy Matt Berg sent an email saying that the u.s and china have gravity propulsion devices and then the fbi is like correct he sent that and it's like well that's weird that is like crazy people say crazy things you know what i mean so the drone's up in the sky
Starting point is 01:34:53 still since we have no topics from the last couple days don't drone me bro don't drone me all right everybody smash that like button share the show with everyone you know become a member over at timcast.com and don't forget a member over at TimCast.com. And don't forget, go to BooniesHQ.com to pick up your 28th Amendment board. Actually, I should pull this one up again because this is my favorite thing ever. So let me grab the old Boonies store. And, you know, we and the team are sitting here. And let me show you this real quick.
Starting point is 01:35:21 You want to pull this up? We have a bunch of different skateboard designs, like the Boobies, which is a blue-footed boobie. And this is a sleeper hit. We did not realize this was going to sell so well, and people just love the boobies. This is a blue-footed boobie bird. They're in the Galapagos. They don't fear humans, and they're really doofy looking. And Sam made this board, and we got one behind Raymond, actually.
Starting point is 01:35:43 I don't think you can see. Oh, you can see it. There you go. And everybody was just like, I want a boobie board. And we were like behind Raymond, actually. I don't think you can see. Oh, you can see it. There you go. And everybody was just like, I want a booby board. And we were like, oh, wow. So we do talk about whether or not we think the graphics sell better. And I was like, you know, everyone who owns chickens is going to want to own a 28th Amendment graphic skateboard. The chickens being necessary to the security of a free state.
Starting point is 01:36:05 The right of the people to keep a bear and breed chickens shall not be infringed. And of course, in the true tradition of the Bill of Rights, it was written with one thing as its intention, but a broader issue at play. That is, while the Second Amendment says the right to keep a bear arms, there's much more to it than just that. It's about it's about defending yourself. It's about defending your country. It's about enemies, foreign and domestic. The Third Amendment, which was no quartering. No one really cares about the Third Amendment.
Starting point is 01:36:34 The U.S. government can't have, you know, troops sleep in your houses. But it was actually interpreted to mean the government can't invade your home and use your property without permission. And so the true purpose of the 20th Amendment for all those chicken fans out there is, for one, it's funny. And look at that picture of that chicken. Isn't the best chicken doodle ever made? I'm a big fan of that one. I'm a big fan. And but it's really about the right to sell to to grow your own food and and and live healthy, sustained lives on your own. But as you know, I'm a big chicken fan, so chickens are based.
Starting point is 01:37:09 So there you go, boonieshq.com. All right. Become a member over at timcast.com, of course. That members-only show is coming up in about 23 minutes where we talk about things that are not so family-friendly, and you as members get to call in. So right now, join the movement. Each and every one of you go to Timcast.com, click join us. If you believe this show is good, it is worth continuing. We need you
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Starting point is 01:38:11 show and an ad at 9.30 Eastern. So just two. But we'll grab your super chats for now. The deplorable Miss Drake says, the USA is supposed to be an individualistic culture. When a collective culture tries to coexist with an individualistic culture, it doesn't work out. But how do you convince your leftist aunt? Why do they cling to a narrative? Some people are weak. You can't do anything about it.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Some people are sheep and some people are shepherds. And some people are coyotes. Just want to run around and do their own thing. Libertarians, man, I got to tell you. They only, the only moral foundation libertarians have is liberty i love that look at the jonathan height research on this stuff have you ever seen it so it's like liberals only care about care and fairness loyalty you know authority purity they don't get crap liberty they don't care about it
Starting point is 01:39:01 all conservatives are balanced across the board they They have a balance of all the moral foundations and libertarians only care about liberty. To the point where some of the questions asked in the moral foundations test are disgusting and libertarians are like, liberty! And it's like, oh, dude. Like when, was it Austin Peters, Peterson, or what is his name?
Starting point is 01:39:20 He got booed when he said he didn't want people to be able to sell heroin to children. He got booed. Good friend he didn't want people to be able to sell heroin to children. He got booed. Good friend, and he stuck his neck out, but yeah, that's, I mean, they go crazy. He is correct. They go crazy. He should not be allowed to do that. Liberty. I'm going to start using that. That'll be my response.
Starting point is 01:39:36 Liberty. Alright, let's go. Jason Dixon says, Tim, I wanted to tell you my partner doesn't want to open a coffee shop. We will stick to what we know, real estate. Well, best of luck. Maybe you can purchase a building and someone else will rent from you and open a coffee shop. But we do have dozens.
Starting point is 01:39:58 I don't know if I'm allowed to say the full number of inquiries we got in the Casper franchises, but it is copious. There are very many. So it's looking like they're going to start popping up all over the place. We're really excited for this. And it's going to be great. We're really excited for this and it's going to be, it's going to be great. We're going to do events. It's going to be wild.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Casper all over the country. Sounds exciting. That's our version of manifest destiny. Cody, Justin Fenton says manifest destiny for the Imperium. People are calling Greenland manifest destiny 2.0. I don't know why Democrats are pretending to be angry about it. The U S has acquired territory peacefully, economically for 100 plus years.
Starting point is 01:40:33 We go and we say, you got 60,000 people living on an island. Island's got a lot of resources. How about we start developing here? We protect you with our military. You get access to our country, our trade, our passports. We will also invest billions of dollars into your country and you will live better than you ever did. And they're like, sounds good to me. And then the left is like, no, that's fascism.
Starting point is 01:40:52 It's a freaking win-win for those people. They gotta hate something. Right? They hate America. Jason Dixon says, the Gulf of Texas. There you go. Jason Dixon says, also, can you give a shout out to Roman Nation? His podcast was developed from your community and Discord.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Shout out, Discord. We are creating culture. Indeed. Roman Nation. Isn't that crazy? I'm telling you, the amount of bonus content that exists when you become a member at TimCast.com is amazing. And you get to call in and talk to us and our guests.
Starting point is 01:41:25 So the most important thing, though, is that you sustain us. The reason we are here every day is because members make it all possible. So shout out. Let's go. We got Stuart Voxberger. He says, good evening, crew. Let's have a good one. Go Team America.
Starting point is 01:41:42 F yeah. Indeed. Go America. I agree. Go America. I agree. Go America. Saddle laughing tramp says, if we make Canada a U.S. colony, would they have to put Trump on their money? Yes, we would require it. I would require it. Just because I'm free, says Panama Canal is falling into disrepair. Negotiating the U.S. taking control will be an easy political move. Agreed. And the media is saying
Starting point is 01:42:09 that China's not running it because they're once again conflating the point Trump is trying to make. What he's trying to make is that it is overutilized and China has undue influence over the Panama Canal
Starting point is 01:42:19 when we should be the one in control and charging money to all these other countries. So the New York Times says, he's fact-check check, he's lying. China doesn't control it. They just exert undue influence over it because of the economic pressure. It's like, okay, dude.
Starting point is 01:42:34 Then we own Canada. And we need to get it before it's too late, before it falls too into disrepair. You ever see how it works? No. Yeah, the canals. You ever see it? I watched a video on instagram and it's basically like they have locks the boat goes in it locks behind it and then fills with water then
Starting point is 01:42:51 it moves forward then it locks then it fills with water and that's how they lift a ship up like 300 feet something that weighs like a thousand tons or something crazy like how much those ships weigh i mean massive i don't know the 40 000 tons 50 000 yeah that's crazy and they float for that you ever just stop and look at like a 747 and just say like that's nuts that thing can fly yep that's crazy i like going to the airport and i'm just like could you imagine what it must be like if you know benjamin franklin was was shown an airport he sees all of these massive machines that are just incomprehensible to a man of that era this is why i don't understand why people are afraid of like or people think oh a
Starting point is 01:43:30 big plane makes me feel safe i'm like there's more gravity or it's it's like it's it's got a lot it weighs more why is it that that makes you feel safer like i don't i feel like a smaller plane would should make people feel safe no probably because the big plane has uh more crumple zone maybe yeah so for those that don't know the front of the plane is the most dangerous the furthest back seat have the highest survival rates and crashes survival rates you said yeah yeah so when planes crash people in the back have a really have a much a significant rate of high rate of survival and, people in the back have a significant high rate of survival. And the people in front, not so much. All those first class travelers.
Starting point is 01:44:11 What did you call it? A crimple? Crumple zone. That's actually what it's called. It's where most of the energy is getting absorbed. And that's in the front of the plane. The crumple zone. Indeed.
Starting point is 01:44:23 Could go for a butterscotch crimpet right now. But go ahead. Sure. Grofty says, but go ahead. Sure. Grofty says, make America buck buck again. I recommend chickencitylive.com. They have a Christmas tree out there and everything right now. They do. They do. Christmas is over, but we're going to keep it going for a little bit longer.
Starting point is 01:44:37 I want to tell all you guys, you know, you're in the city and humans, humans are supposed to have chickens. This is true. For hundreds of years, humans have had chickens and it makes you laugh but here's the problem instead of having farms and animals the way humans you know evolved and developed and build society now we're in metal boxes in new york surrounded by concrete and honking horns and break dust when you're at work you go to chickencitylive.com and you turn on the soothing noises of countryside chickens enjoying life.
Starting point is 01:45:11 And what do you hear? You'll hear when it's raining, just a sound of rain and chickens going, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. That's the thing people don't understand. Chickens don't go, bop, bop, bop.
Starting point is 01:45:20 They go, bop, bop, bop. Sometimes they bop, but they go, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop as they walk around. And then you're sitting there at work and it will erase all depression. Yeah. Yeah, I think... Like white noise.
Starting point is 01:45:34 It's the pharmaceutical companies that got chickens banned from cities because they knew that if people owned chickens, they wouldn't be depressed anymore. I'm not serious at all, but some leftist is going to write that up saying like Tim has unhinged conspiracy about once once the wolf gets to him we lost uh billy the cock our rooster we lost him poor guy but billy the wolf got him yeah we think so it's either that or some sort of bird maybe i i don't know it's tough but they don't leave much behind they
Starting point is 01:46:02 don't we had mr mutton chops and it's had Mr. Muttonchops, and it's because he had muttonchops. And so we had 13 extra roosters from our batch we incubated. Too many of them. So we had them in a separate area because that's just too many roosters, but you keep them all by themselves. They're fine. They don't fight. And then we decided to eat them, and they were delicious. But we allowed Mr. Muttonchops to live because he kept jumping out of the chicken coop and we respected it. It was hilarious. I'd wake up in the morning, walk out, and there he is walking around the yard just doing his thing.
Starting point is 01:46:33 And I'm like, you got to respect it. He's not long for this world. And so when we culled the other roosters and ate them with a root, Allison made a rooster chili. Everyone loved it. It was delicious. We had pulled rooster and baked rooster. And it's all good.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Mr. Muttonchops was with just two other roosters that we kept for their genetics in this little area. And then one day we came out and there was just a streak of feathers across the yard. A fox had eaten him. And we knew it. Well, you know, he's food now. Now he's
Starting point is 01:47:03 nothing. Are we making any more chickens? Yes. Yeah? Because RB3, it is now high time that RB3 has an heir. So Roberto Beaks is the king, king regent. And then Roberto Beaks Jr., Roberto Jr., we call him, was the new king. And it's because you can't have just the one rooster, the same genetics. You've got to change them out.
Starting point is 01:47:24 But so we're trying to keep some royal lineage. And so swapping them out. Roberto Jr. had a heart attack and died unexpectedly. R.I.P. Yeah, RB3 is the current king of Chicken City. And Roberto, who is the original king, is kept away from everybody. We don't want the genetic mixing. And then it's time, Roberto. RB3, we call him, had some children.
Starting point is 01:47:48 How many chickens? Are you public about your total? I think we got like 35. Yeah, for a while we had a lot more, but like I said, we ate 13 of them. I think we ate 10 of the roosters and kept three of them. Yeah. Something to add off to. Currently how many roosters?
Starting point is 01:48:01 Currently how many? I think we have three roosters now. Yeah, yeah. And they're fine with each other. to currently how many roosters currently how many i think we have three roosters now yeah yeah and and they're fine with each other one is called pom-pom pom-pom because he's big and poofy and he's he's all right you know people people think roosters will kill each other they don't they're they're all right as long as there's enough ladies you also learn that they they do the cock-a-doodle-doo not just in the morning they do it whenever they want to yeah they just scream every every 10 seconds.
Starting point is 01:48:28 That's why they ban roosters in neighborhoods. So a lot of places are like, you can have chickens, but no roosters. Unless you snip their vocal cords and they go, and they'll try to yell, but they'll go, Coughing all day. That's what they do. It's kind of messed up. All right. OMG Puppy says, Pierre Polyev is based.
Starting point is 01:48:43 Check out the video of him calmly debating a liberal journalist while eating an apple. I love that video. It's a great video. Pierre Poly? Yeah, it's so good. He's just like standing there eating an apple and the guy's like, you're a far right guy. What does that mean? He's like, well, some of your positions are, you know, people have said, what people? He's like, well, there's many people who think this. He's like, you're're the journalist asked me the question, what people are you talking about? Name one person is like, well, OK, anyway, you've certainly taken a page out of Donald Trump's book. And he's like, what book? What are you talking about? It's like, well, you know, you say things like Donald Trump is like, what did I
Starting point is 01:49:16 say? And he's like, well, I don't know. But some people have said and he's like, what are you talking? I don't know the question you're asking. And then he says, OK, well, my question is, why should the voters trust you if you're taking a page out of Donald Trump's book? And he's like, what are you talking? He's like, I don't know the question you're asking. And then he says, OK, well, my question is, why should the voters trust you if you're taking a page out of Donald Trump's book? And he's like, I don't know what you're asking me. What does that mean? And he goes, why should voters trust you? And he's like, oh. And then he explains his position. It's epic.
Starting point is 01:49:38 And he's just chewing on an apple like, what are you talking about? Common sense. Yep. Because I'm the only guy that talks about common sense. I think I've seen a couple of videos from I think he's great. I don't know everything about the guy, but there's one where he breaks down inflation really well. He gets asked directly, what are you going to do about inflation? He goes, I'm going to stop the spending. He's like they've 800 billion dollars. And then he breaks it down like you have ten dollars and ten apples. It's one dollar per apple. Then the government's prints ten dollars. And now you got twenty10 and 10 apples. It's $1 per apple. Then the government prints $10, and now you got $20 and 10 apples.
Starting point is 01:50:07 You don't have more money to buy apples. You still only have 10 apples, and every apple costs $2. Because a bidding war starts, and then everybody's fighting over the apples. And I'm like, that's a really quick way to break down the problem of mass government spending. Yeah. I like the guy. I mean, he's much better than Trudeau. Yes.
Starting point is 01:50:22 But I don't really pay attention to Canada, so. Who does? Yeah, I know, right? The Canadians, Iudeau. Yes. But I don't really pay attention to Canada, so. Who does? Yeah, I know, right? The Canadians, I guess. All right, let's go. Cowpoke Ranch says Dick Cheney is pleasuring himself to this episode. Grow a sense of humor. Like what?
Starting point is 01:50:37 Like Dick Cheney's going, we want Greenland. Greenland's got 60,000 people on it and we want to buy it. What's wrong with that? I oppose war and nation building. I got no problem with the U.S. being like, we would like to bring you into the American territories and we'll pay you lots of money. It's like, oh, okay, it's better than spending money on Ukraine. Carlos Y. says, stop with the fake news, Tim. Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Newfoundland are more conservative than most red states.
Starting point is 01:51:03 Just take those four and leave the rest. Also, we have oil. Agreed. Welcome to America. Done. Yeah, a lot of people have pointed out that if Canada became the 51st state, the problem is phrasing it that way. Canada as a whole would be the biggest state, I believe, with
Starting point is 01:51:19 41 million people that would have something like 70 congressional seats or something like that. No, not 70, but like 50, 52 or something. I don't know. And however, if we were to annex Canada, we'd likely take each province as a state. They'd file or whatever. And then you'd actually end up with a decent amount of red states. But it still is left biased regardless of these great conservative areas. So, sorry. Let's grab some more. Jackie Octavia says, Videntis on YouTube has an interesting video theorizing how Canada might be integrated into the U.S.
Starting point is 01:51:55 Some provinces would be added as states and some as territories, like the Yukon. Yeah, because we're not taking Quebec French people. You know what I mean? No, they can be their own country. Yeah, yeah. We don't need that beef. Yeah, and we're not taking Quebec French people, you know what I mean? Nah, they can be their own country. Yeah, yeah. We don't need that beef. Yeah, and we should have a national language. We should be like English. Yep. Yeah, this should be a big deal.
Starting point is 01:52:11 Donald Trump, if you're watching the show tonight, make English. Yeah, if there's someone out there that has Donald Trump's ear, get Donald Trump to talk about making English the national language of the United States. Whiskey Biscuit says, what if the annex Canada bit is just a big ask and Trump walks it back to only annexing the parts that want to join?
Starting point is 01:52:31 The west coast of them. Yeah, I mean, cool. Back to 8D chess. 58 states. We take only eight of their provinces. What do they have, like 21 provinces or something like that? It feels like a lot. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:52:43 Yeah. Someone want to look that up? Yep, sir. I don't know nothing about Canada, like a lot. I don't know. Yeah. Someone want to look that up? Yep, sir. I don't know nothing about Canada, and I'm glad I don't. Canada's good. They got poutine. I like that. Montreal's a lot of fun, but their government sucks. Did we find the answer?
Starting point is 01:52:57 Yes, there are ten. Ten provinces and three territories. That's that little? Yes, sir. They're all giant. They're all biggies, except for Nova Scotia. I thought it was way more than that. Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba, New Brunswick, Newfoundland, and Labrador, Nova Scotia, Ontario, Prince Edward Island, Quebec, and Saskatchewan. Newfoundland.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Why is that famous? Why do Americans know that? I don't know. Because you get the dog. Oh, 9-11. Oh, yes. When they shut down the airspace they had they rerouted every single plane coming overseas to newfoundland to newfoundland they did a whole
Starting point is 01:53:31 musical about it come from away but this town of like 3 000 people and there was like 12 000 like passengers and they had to house them feed them and it was shut down what nine three or four days right it was a couple days anyway i got a job uh at o'hare a few years after 9-11 and the people who worked there said that at o'hare when it went down within like minutes there were a bunch of dudes standing on the tarmac with rifles and they're like in suits with earpieces and sunglasses holding rifles and just like standing and looking around it was i was like what really like yeah it was crazy then there was the ufo sighting in uh 2006 at o'hare you saw it or i i wasn't there because i had left right before it happened but the crazy thing is my friends who were there said that manheim road is the long high it's like the long i don't think it's a highway but it's a it's a wide lane like four lane road
Starting point is 01:54:21 that uh goes right next to the airport. And my buddy was saying that people stopped their cars dead in the middle of the road, like just the middle of the road. And they all started getting out and just staring up at this UFO that was hovering over the airport. And then all the witnesses said it hovered for about a minute and then shot straight up and punched a hole in the clouds. And a pilot, because this is back when they had flip phone cameras, snapped a photo of
Starting point is 01:54:43 it, which you can Google and find. And it was a disc. It was a saucer. It was floating over. And I knew a ton of people who worked at, because it was really close to the terminal where I used to work. And they were all basically like, yep, saw it. Don't know what it was. And I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 01:54:55 And then one of my friends worked there. And he was like, dude, people were getting out of their cars on the highway and just like staring at it. And we were like, what? That's crazy. That is. Yeah. Who knows, man? It it's a famous it's a very famous story like when you look it up it's i think it's got a wikipedia page you know the the ufo o'hare sighting was a big deal because there's like there's what a hundred thousand people all staring
Starting point is 01:55:17 at this one thing at once and everyone reported seeing it absolutely wild it does have a wikipedia fyi yeah yeah yeah that was it was a it was huge like everybody in the city heard about it because like people were at the airport traveling and they're all staring out the window just looking at a ufo floating over the over the airport sky style yeah and then they all said it shot straight up and punched a hole in the clouds crazy all right let's grab a couple more super chats the lion says wait until the media starts comparing trump trump's territorial ambitions which is how they'll frame it to world war ii bad man's calls for lep lebens rum is that what it was the media isn't going to drop
Starting point is 01:55:59 the narrative or compare of comparison of course and that's why I'm saying, you pointed out- Elbow room, right? Yeah. That's what it means. Stop being guilty. Like we're allowed to like our values, our traditions and our way of life. Yep. You're not a fascist because you think it's good to have 2.5 kids, a nuclear family.
Starting point is 01:56:18 The wife is taking care of the home. That was always allowed. And it's not a fascist because you like Christmas and you want to say Merry Christmas. That's insane. Just ignore anything a leftist says, because the whole point of them saying something is to make you feel like you've done something wrong because then they put it puts them in a position of power over you. Ignore them. I'm also sick of going to businesses and seeing their employees wearing masks. I'm like, for what purpose is Are they still doing it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Even out here. Like, the casino, for instance, at Hollywood Casino, some of their dealers are wearing masks. And I'm like, why? Come on. I mean, okay, it's smoky in there. Fine, I guess. But that's not why they're doing it. They're wearing them in the poker room. There ain't no smoking in the poker room.
Starting point is 01:57:01 They're not wearing them in the poker room. They do not wear the masks in the poker room. Yeah, there are poker players in the poker room. They're not wearing them in the poker room. They do not wear the masks in the poker room. Yeah, there are poker players in D.C. You go to the poker room here, no one's smoking. They're not, nobody wears masks. No, the locals do, no, the dealers do. All the dealers know everybody. Everybody knows the dealers.
Starting point is 01:57:15 Because it's only like 13, I think it's like 13 tables. No, actually, I think it might be like 15 tables at the Hollywood poker room, which is much more fun. Everybody knows each other. It's much more like a home game. You go to D.C. and people are going to wear sunglasses and masks. And I'm like, dude, we get it. It is an advantage.
Starting point is 01:57:29 But my point is, I don't care about that. It's why do I go to a grocery store and there's an employee wearing a mask? I'm like, what's going on? That freaks me out. I don't like it. There's no pandemic. What are you doing? Let's not normalize that.
Starting point is 01:57:42 A lot of people are still doing it. And they're still wearing a mask everywhere they go I'm kind of glad they do it though because it's like you know they're in the cult they want you to feel guilt I suppose I don't care though you do what you want but I went to a hospital recently
Starting point is 01:57:58 and they made me wear a mask because it was in Chicago you had to wear one there was no medical emergency I was visiting some people I knew. And those things suck. I couldn't stand it. And then if you have to put on a real one, like the N95,
Starting point is 01:58:12 it's like you cannot breathe. Not interested. I remember working, I'd be working at a pizza place back when it happened, and I'd be sweating my butt, sweating really hard, man. And it's just terrible
Starting point is 01:58:22 coming down your face and your mouth, and you're breaking out. And it's. What's wild is when there's this cross section of institutions that like you still like the Mayo Clinic. OK, I was going to the Mayo Clinic. Same thing. No major thing. But like you literally when you walk in, like they were still forcing masks.
Starting point is 01:58:39 And like when you're meeting with the doctor, like they're still pressuring you on the COVID jab. Yeah. And I'm just like, how is're still pressuring you on the COVID jab. Yeah. And I'm just like, how is this still happening? You heard about that side effect, that breaking story, right? The boobies? Yeah. So I guess what happened was, and this is like New York Post reporting, and there's a scientific journal writing about it.
Starting point is 01:59:02 The vaccine caused a lesion, which results in gigantomastia. And so they're like, there have been many women who've reported the Pfizer vaccine made their boobs grow. And then this one woman had them grow massively to where she has to get two reductions. Triple G, I think they said was the size. Yeah. Might have to change my opinion on the vaccine. That's what everybody's saying. Triple G is kind of crazy, though.
Starting point is 01:59:25 You know Pfizer right now some executive said figure out how that happened and replicate it because for one thing I gotta be honest I think we'd be much better off if we got rid of breast implants and you just gave someone an injection and their boobs grew you know what I mean and these women would be like you don't need the weird chemicals
Starting point is 01:59:40 or whatever in the surgery just injection and there you go be happy but I'm still not a big fan of the idea that we're going to create an injectable that makes women's boobs grow. And then what men are going to do down the road is just going to turn into mayhem and anarchy with these injectables.
Starting point is 01:59:55 Man. I mean... Not it. I think very much that we will find a future where there's going to be injections that do stuff more than that. Like cellular regeneration, regrowing your hand,
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