Timcast IRL - Trump Just FIRED OVER 6,700 IRS Agents In PURGE, Democrats SOMEHOW Angry w/Chloe Cole

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

Tim, Phil, Raymond & Elaad are joined by Chloe Cole to discuss Trump firing over 6,700 IRS agents, shots fired at a Tesla dealership as extremists target Elon Musk, the Department of HHS officially defining woman as "adult human female," and Google searches for suicide spiking after the shut down of USAID. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Raymond @raymondgstanley (X) Elaad @ElaadEliahu (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Chloe Cole @ChoooCole (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Donald Trump, he's given us a gift. He has ordered the firing of six thousand seven hundred IRS agents. And somehow, somehow Democrats are angry about this. And somehow progressive activists are angry about this. Now, what I'm so just darn confused by is these far left extremists should be very happy with the destabilization or I guess the gutting of the federal government. Right. OK. The other story we have is a Tesla location was just shot up with stickers slapped on the window saying, well, I don't want to repeat this, but they were calling for harm to Elon Musk. And I'm just so darn, gosh darn confused about this.

The anti-Fafar leftists believe that the U.S. government is a fascistic terror state. And Donald Trump gets in. He's like, I'm going to fire everybody. And they're like, no, wait, don't. Elon Musk comes in. He's like, we're going to fire everybody and work with Trump. That was actually like an Elon Trump combo. And then the activists are like they go and they shoot up a Tesla location. I got to be honest. I think these people are fascists. So we'll talk about that.

Plus, Donald Trump has declared the cartels to be terrorist organizations, which opens the door for drone strikes on them in Latin American countries. Holy crap. He then called Zelensky a dictator for refusing to have elections. And the Washington Post said he called Zelensky a dictator without evidence, despite the fact that the statement was literally dictator with no elections. I just I got to say, I absolutely love how the media has no ground left. Nothing they say makes sense. The far left activists, Nothing they say makes sense. The far left activists,

nothing they say makes sense. You know, during the first Trump term, at least there was some semblance of a counter argument. Trump says, I'm going to hire Bolton. The Democrats are like, no, wait, that's a really bad idea. And then some libertarians were like, we also agree. And we're like, here's this conflict. Then Donald Trump says, I'm going to fire a bunch of IRS agents. And somehow progressive activists and Democrats are all on board with the federal government now. Seems to me they have no real convictions and Trump is exposing them for who they are. If you guys head over to Rumble dot com slash Timcast IRL, take a look at the playlists and then take a look at Game of Money. Jump to minute 19 and 19 seconds. And there's 25 year old me hanging out in New York City in this

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to talk about this and so much more is chloe cole hi who are you what do you do i am a i primarily speak on the gender issue in and i advocate for the protection of children um and vulnerable people from irreversible and harmful gender transition treatments. And this mainly comes from my own experience as somebody who's been to the system myself as a child. Interesting. And another story we do have, RFK Jr. has just announced, as per HHS guidelines, woman is adult human female. So this is, yeah, this is, this is pretty. So thanks for hanging out. Should be be interesting. We have a lot of hanging out. Hey everybody. What's up? My name's a lot. Eliyahu. I'm a journalist here at Tim cast. Chloe, it's so nice to have you on tonight.

I've been following your story for years and, um, I'm finally, I'm happy to see the tide finally turn on this issue, especially with Trump coming into office. And we'll dive into that a little bit more later. What's up Raymond? Hey bud. Good to see you here. I'm looking forward to talking to my first neocon. What's up, guys? It's Raymond, G. Stanley Jr. I work here. I do good things. I'm a blue-collar, U.S. Marine Corps veteran. I also want to shout out Mr. W. David Lilly. He painted a beautiful painting of...

Roberto Jr. How terrible. I know. Bro. I'm thinnest of ice now. Roberto Jr. How terrible. I know. Bro. The thinnest of ice now. Thinnest of ice. My apologies. Rest in peace, Roberto Jr.

Rest in peace, sir. Phil? Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Let's go. Here's the story from the independent IRS to fire six thousand seven hundred staff in Trump and Musk's doge purge.

We I love how they call it that weeks before deadline to file taxes. I just just begging you liberals. Stop. It's the IRS. Nobody likes them. Why do you keep trying to make them likable? They're trying to create, they're saying right before you have to file your taxes. Yeah, well, they're the reason we're stressed about our taxes in the first place. I got to tell you, the worst thing, you know what the worst thing is when you're running a business? See, when y'all get your W-4s or W-2s, you get those like in January January or whatever if you got a good company. You can file your taxes right away. I remember back when I was just doing W-2, I get my forms and I'm like, I'm going to file right away and get it over with. I want my refund.

Running a business, it's always down to the very last day because you've got all these different accounts. You've got all of these different invoices. You're chasing after everything. They're trying to collect everything. And then we're sitting here being like, we've got to wait four months. And then as business owners, we don't get refunds. We get to we get to learn how much more we have to give the government. To be fair, I guess it's it's better that we didn't overpay them. But it's absolutely fascinating. Donald Trump, Elon and Doge are making this move. They're targeting six thousand seven hundred probationary

employees. And they're and they and independent says in the middle of tax season, they're trying to somehow turn this into a bad thing for all of you. I find it to be absolutely silly. But once again, I will reiterate, please, Democrats, do not stop doing this. I want to win the midterms. I mean, the the the fact that the Democrats are siding with big government isn't a surprise they will they have long denied it and said no we're not we just want to be compassionate blah blah blah they have consolidated power in the government and they don't want to give it up they like the fact that you know organizations like usaid were funneling money to their favorite NGOs to push their political agendas on the backs of all Americans. I don't know how the average – I'm not sure how the average person is going to respond to this.

Any sane person is going, wow, that's really great. So I listen to this show called – there's this platform called Two-Way. It's this guy, Mark Halperin, that used to be on msnbc and sean spicer's on his show a lot and he gets a lot of like normie people that are looking to avoid the partisan stuff that that happens a lot in most news outlets and to listen to people talk about musk and the stuff that he's doing there are still a lot of people that are very plugged into the propaganda from the standard news media. Well, I know a lot is a big fan of the IRS. No, I'm not a big fan of the IRS.

You can't afford that mustache, that Bolton-esque mustache. Well, but how are you going to fund your wars? We fund our wars. Good question. Well, through the trade that our um military is able to facilitate i guess what do you mean what because um our navy is what allows free trade to happen on planet earth so without our are we charging people for that um no i don't think so we um yeah we should maybe okay or we should we should actually use that influence to get countries to do what we want them to do, which is what we do.

They got to pay. I mean, with the Panama Canal, they should be paying. We built it. It's American. And now the Northwest patches is coming. The U.S. definitely wants to control that. But, yeah, maybe we got to stop doing all this work for free around the world. You know what I'm saying? Maybe get rid of the income tax.

We go with tariffs and we go with control of these canals that we built. Maybe if we fire these 6,700 staff from the IRS, the West Virginian tax officials won't come after me from trying to pay tax in multiple states. Wrong go-how. Trying to get me to pay. So that's a whole other component of the West Virginia ridiculousness,

is that they're trying to require out-of-state residents to pay taxes in the state because they sold a product to the state. It's absolutely insane. I don't want to just keep going over and over on that story, though. But it's I mean, it's it's almost like the government is broke and they're desperately trying to squeeze as much money out of you as possible. Now, let's just go back in time a little bit. Remember when the Democrats hired 87,000 IRS agents? Yeah. Yeah. And then they started tracking any purchase or transaction. Six hundred bucks are over. They're trying to tax the poor and they're. Yeah, they are trying to tax the poor. The IRS has come out and said that taxing the poor is more effective

than going after the rich because the rich can afford to fight in court. If you're going after a rich guy for two and a half million dollars of unpaid taxes, he will absolutely blow a million dollars taking you to court. And the government's got to that. That's money the government has to spend. They're not going to get the money out of. They're going to the guy's going to drag it out as long as possible because if i were being if the government were like hey we're after you for a million dollars and i had you know had the money for it i'd be like well i'll spend 999 999 dollars to make sure that you don't do that and it's it's particularly the probation folks he's been firing folks who have been probation for the government

service yeah they're new. That's all it is. It's the same thing. Sorry, folks. You know, Chloe, you're not a heavy news culture and conflict commentator. So I feel like the IRS stuff is probably outside your wheelhouse. Yes. I'm slowly moving in that direction, but this is kind of foreign to me.

Perfect. Do you like the IRS? Not really. All right see that's the point you know so i'm glad you're here because we get like all of us we sit here we read or watch the news all day every day we deal with you know filing our taxes you're you're in in this regard i know like you're a specialist in in a specific specific cultural area but in this regard you're more of a layman and uh if you don't like the irs then i am right no one likes the irs i don't know i don't know any american let me steal man i think this argument i don't necessarily agree with it but i think the the argument goes along the lines of because it's the most difficult to tax and follow up with the most high the highest earners who are

able to avoid the taxes in the in the most lucrative ways that we need all of these people and that the taxes, tax revenue that they will bring in will out-earn the kind of cost that it costs to employ these people. But then the argument... It's their argument. But then the argument that they make, oh, we need to get the billionaires and millionaires to pay their fair share, that's BS right off the start. Like, it's a non-starter. We need to have these 87 000 agents

so they can go after the millionaires and billionaires blah blah blah but then those the the irs itself says we don't go after those people because it's not worth the effort so they're actually hiring those people to go after the regular people right right now i guarantee you democrats and liberals are probably making youtube videos where they're like, Elon Musk is firing IRS agents so that he and his crony buddies don't have to pay taxes. Let me just let me just explain something. It takes one IRS agent to handle an account of a billionaire. Now, if they want to do a full audit and go through everything, it can take a lot more agents than that. But the decision to target an individual and look at their general finances is not the most complicated thing in the world.

What's impossible for the IRS is to go after three million individuals. Let me put it this way. One billionaire, as Phil already pointed out, and we as a corporation and every corporation deals with this. If the IRS comes to you and says, we think you owe X amount of dollars, you look at your tax lawyer and you say, do, do we owe that? And if you say no, say, OK, it's going to be cheaper for my tax attorney to deal with this. Or, you know, you call Tax Network USA for it. That's a really good example. That's why I said we have like the best possible sponsor for tonight's show. Imagine you owe $10 million, like they said in the ad. Yo, it's not going to cost you that much to call Tax Network and have them resolve, Tax Network USA and have them resolve your issue. The IRS is going to waste

their time. They're going to say they're going to cave. They're going to be like, OK, fine. They're going to send their six thousand agents after six thousand seven hundred people. And not just that, six thousand seven hundred agents, each one of those agents can probably send a letter to 50 people. And that's just in what, like one week? How many letters I got to send out? So if they're going over all these accounts and they're like, look, I've got 10,000 people that each own an average of $10,000. It's like, oh, wow. Well, now we're talking about large stacks of cash, but you need a lot of people to go

after it. Go after a billionaire. He's going to fight you tooth and nail. I think it's actually probably easier to explain like this. If a billionaire owes $10 million, he will spend $9 million to save that extra million. Good luck in court. If a regular person owes $10, he's sending you $10 with no fight. So if you can get as many people as possible to send you $10, none of them will fight it. That's what the IRS is all about. That's what they're doing. And I don't care if they're probationary or otherwise. And I don't care what they were doing.

Fire them all as far as I'm concerned. And the billionaires, the rich folks, they know the loopholes. They can get away. What? You know, let me explain it like this. I don't actually think it's fair necessarily to call them loopholes. You know, before I owned a business with a lot of employees, loophole seemed to make sense. When you actually get into all of the taxes, there's no loopholes. There's literally just what the law is.

Because the IRS agents know exactly when and when not a billionaire is going to pay. It's not a loophole. They're just like, oh, you don't got to pay taxes for this thing. So the way it's phrased by activists, particularly on the left, they're like billionaires use loopholes and not pay taxes. And I'm like, when you claim Amazon paid no taxes, what you're basically saying is that they reinvested the funds or their margins were slim and reinvested. The IRS knows that. So it's not a loophole. It's literally the purpose of tax law.

So the funny thing I hear from a lot of people is that if we lower taxes, you'll create more jobs and things like that. And that's technically true, but technically not true. There's a happy medium and you have to know where it is. So if I was told, hey, they're increasing the corporate tax rate to 70%, I'd be like, wow, OK, well, we better reinvest that as much as we can. So what would we do here? We'd hire as many people as we could because we're going to lose all that money if we don't. So it's not necessarily true that lower taxes means more hiring or the other way around. It just really depends. But you'll hear from a lot of these activists. They will say whatever they need to to say to confuse you they will say billionaires don't pay taxes because it's a

loophole and i'm like no elon musk isn't paying billions of dollars in taxes because he doesn't actually have cash that's not a loophole okay well he made x amount of profit last year and i'm like and it's locked up in stock it is wait but stocks we don't have to call it a loophole but it is a sort of workaround that is an issue with the ultra ultra wealthy and well whatever the allow the law that allow there are laws created that allows them to pay much less than even an ordinary person doesn't tax taxes and i'll explain to you how it goes i'm not talking about amazon the corporation but jeff bezos for example was famously paid something like only 100k 83 000 $83,000 while he worked there,

but the shares and his net worth was a lot higher than that. So while he was paying a lower marginal tax, his net worth was like- That's not cash. I understand it's not cash, but- All right, hold on, hold on, hold on. You want to play again? No, no, no, no. I don't support this, and I don't even support a wealth tax, but I'm saying these are ways-

It's not a loophole. It's just a generic term. There are laws made for the ultra-wealthy such that it allows them to pay less taxes than a much poorer person. That's absolutely not true. Which part of it? Absolutely not true. First of all, the wealthy pay substantially more taxes on average than any – if you look at the curve, it's a parabolic curve. The higher the income, the more taxes they pay in total.

I think, what is it, like the top 1% pay something like 47% of all taxes? But Jeff Bezos on paper was only making— Jeff Bezos pays the same income tax that every American pays. He then pays capital gains tax. And the activists argue that capital gains should be income and that by not paying the same amount on capital gains as you do on your income, that's a loophole. That's not correct. Well, as I understand, he hasn't sold a lot of his stocks when he was employed there.

Well, when he was employed there. First of all, stock is not cash and can't be spent. So you can't claim that he should be taxed on something that's not money. But let's play this game. I have in my hand a tech deck, a fingerboard, that I put together myself. Now, how much do you think someone would be willing to pay for Tim Pool's fingerboard that I put together myself. Now, how much you think someone will be willing to pay for Tim Pool's fingerboard that he actually uses during the show and does all this with? What do you think? 350. 350. OK. Five dollars and fifty six. It's now a lot. A lot. You got to pay the government one hundred dollars taxes income because I gave you that

simply by that being yours. That was cash. That was a transaction. That's how the taxes work. You now owe money on that. That's income. I guess I'd be in the hole. But Tim, let me ask you. So Jeff Bezos was getting paid $80,000 a year while he was the CEO of Amazon. And he was worth something like hundreds of millions of dollars because of the Amazon, because of Amazon stock and billions.

It depends on how much cash and cash. I understand. Do you think he should only owe taxes on 83? Calm down, Phil. So you think Jeff Bezos should only owe whatever? Okay, Elad, how would he pay taxes on money he doesn't have? I just think there's a... Well, that's the workaround. So if you have above a certain amount, I think people argue that you should be forced to sell a small amount. Oh my God, Elad, please please that's the argument that's not what elad stop just stop calm down let me explain let me explain if jeff bezos could which

he legally can't because there's fiduciary responsibility to a company meaning one he has a contract that bars her from selling stock okay unless a certain threshold of stock value is met two if he dumps stock the stock price collapses and it could cause the company to spiral into a freefall. The stock is used to generate revenue for the company to operate if they're not generating substantial revenues. So if Jeff Bezos was ordered by the government to violate his contract and sell stock so that he could cover the wealth tax they put on it, the company would enter freefall. Everyone would dump the stock overnight. It would become worthless. And then paradoxically, Jeff Bezos net worth would be 100 million. And

then he wouldn't owe those taxes in the first place. The issue at hand here is that there's clearly an issue with how we're taxing people like this. If you think Jeff Bezos should only owe money on his $83,000 of income while he was working there and not anything on any of the hundreds of millions of dollars that he had in stock and net worth there's a serious issue there because there are people who are making hundreds of thousands of dollars who are again paying more than if you don't think there's any issue with somebody like that paying significantly less than again like people like they're not people making millions i'm gonna mute you if you just if you just keep ranting and saying wrong things over and over again he did not make cash there's no income i said his net worth his net worth is paper that exists in a

nebulous concept in the mind do you know what paper value means how much is jeff basel's worth i think 170 billion dollars okay and when he was ceo of amazon what does that mean what does that worth me it means your culminations of your assets okay and where does was CEO of Amazon, what does that mean? What does that worth me? It means your culmination of your assets. Okay, and where does the value of those assets come from? The demand for them. And what happens if the government says, we are seizing your stock? The stock value will go down. And then what does he owe?

Nothing? He'll owe some. The issue is that he should be paying more. The amount is- More what? He has no cash. Okay, I think it- No, he's purposefully making his...

setting up his assets in such a way that this will be the net result. And this is what people are talking about when people like Raymond were saying the loophole. If he sells the stock, he has to pay on the gain, on the realized gain of all of the cash he brings in. Sure, but Tim, you understand that he's purposefully taking a low he was taking a low um income on purpose he was taking a low salary on purpose to be able to affect this loophole and that is the issue at hand no he purposefully set it up this way so he would fundamentally misunderstand how any of the corporate structure works in this country let's try this let's start slow down what is a c-corp um there's like a c-corp and s-corp i don't

know i don't know off the top of my head i don't know the exact you don't know why they exist okay first for an individual i believe and once no no go ahead right so the issue here is if you don't understand something as basic as like uh they have b-corps now llcs uh an s-corp technically is an llc a c-corp is as well's special classifications. If you don't know what those mean, I mean, that's 101. Okay. So if you look to a CEO who's running a company and then you go, he should pay money on money he doesn't have, is what you're saying, because the company he runs is worth a lot of money. We have a problem here where logic has failed.

My point is, let's start with, you't even know what a C-Corp is. So let's not play the game of you think Jeff Bezos intentionally took an action to obfuscate his wealth and avoid paying taxes. You don't think that's what he's doing here? No. That he did? OK. That is that is applying malintent to a man who is probably just abiding by tax law as

he's instructed by his lawyer. In order to achieve what what the loophole it's not a loophole when you're doing what the law tells you you have to do what i think we're like we're it's a distinction without a difference they set up the law in such a way to act as a loophole the there's a loophole individual is is is doing something maliciously whereas what's actually happening is he called his lawyer and said, how am I supposed to do this? And they said, based on U.S. tax code 531C, you have to do this, you have to file this, and you have to pay yourself this. When I first started this company, my accountant told me, here's the range at which you can pay yourself. I said, okay, then I'll just choose a number. We have profits for this company, profits taxed at a lower margin

than employment. So CEOs want to pay themselves less, but there's a market. There's a there's an expected market value. Here's another thing I don't think you understand. We cannot pay people above market rate. You you can try to justify it. You're opening yourself up to an audit. I go to my account and I say, hey, we got this guy's a big talent. I want to pay him, you know, a million dollars. They say, what's his job? Oh, he's a musician. I'll say, do session musicians get paid a million dollars? Not often. Okay. You're going to have to justify to the IRS when they audit you why you're paying someone so high above market. You shouldn't do that. I say, oh, see, because the tax code works like this. Okay. It's not a loophole when the government passes a law that makes you do these things. The loophole is a term

used by activists to go after people who are wealthy and claim they're doing something maliciously when they're doing what they're contractually obligated to do or what the government requires them to do. If the government law, if the law exists and is solidified and then a company forms and they say, how do we create a pay structure for for the person who runs this company? Well, based on the law, we have to do these 10 things. OK, and then you come out and go, aha, he's cheating by using a loophole. And he's like, what do you mean? The law was there before we started the company. And my lawyers told me that's how I had to do it. I think there's an issue with the way our laws in this country are set up to tax in particular, the ultra wealthy, the top 100, which are in a different scenario than even the top 10,000 people. So there's,

there's an issue. So you're, you're, you're, you're more like a communist. No. 10,000 people. So there's an issue there. So you're more like a communist? No. Well, hold on. You think we should tax people on cash they don't have because there is an ascribed market value in the imagination? I don't know the exact solution for how to tax people who are in the top 10 amount of wealth, but if you look at the amount they pay

compared to the amount that the top 10,000 earners are, no like the top 10 have worked you are wrong it is substantially higher what you're talking about what you're saying what you're talking about would mean that people that are pensioners that are on fixed income i'm talking about top teners stop talking over people let me finish because what you're talking about is talking about taxing unrealized gains. I don't know how else to explicitly say I'm talking about the top earners and top net worth individuals in our society. Elad, the method. That's who I'm talking about. Elad, Elad, stay with me here.

The method to do what you're doing. Phil, you could have carve outs. If we're talking about specific people, we could have the law set up in a way... Here's a Jeff Bezos law and an Elon Musk law and you're an insane person. Let's just write it in. Elad votes.

What? Well, you know I abstain because I try to have journalistic integrity. But if we do want to wrap it back around to this Doge story, I think it's interesting what stories of Doge cutting, what new stories of Doge cutting we choose to pay attention to. Because, you know, on the left, they'll focus on stories like, oh, in the middle of Africa, they're cutting health care that saved tens of thousands of Africans. And then they talk about that and they talk about how, oh, they're cutting different people, different parts. Vlad, I drew you a picture.

Maybe the picture can help. This is a graph made by Chachipiti of total taxes paid by income bracket. Why? That's interesting. Total real taxes paid in billions by income bracket. And somehow the wealthiest individuals are paying the overwhelming majority of all taxes. What percent? I can't see the number.

Is the wealthiest? It's not percent. It's $1 million plus. Okay. I'm talking about like the top net worth individuals, which are different than the top 1%. That's included. What was, what was Jeff, what was Bezos's income per year? Was it 1 million? No, it wasn't 1 million. It was less, but his net worth was in the hundreds of millions. It, Elad, it was $1 million. Okay. It was $1 million. So if you look for a more specific graph. What's $1 million divided by 12?

You tell me. Is it around $80,000? Okay, Tim. F. Bezos was intentionally paying himself $1 million, plus he was getting an additional $1 million in benefits. He was getting a $1 million bonus plus a $1 million salary. This isn't talking about the specific details that I'm trying to explain to you guys about top net worth individuals that are getting bumped into the top one everybody understands you could you know but this graphic specific to the individual you just said that you must not hear i'm talking about the top 10 100 net worth individuals who

have completely unique situation not articulating yourself clearly. You just said unique situations. That means you want targeted taxes. Let me finish so I can make sure that I understand. For specific people that make an amount of money that you deem as enough, you want specific tax law for individuals specifically because they make too much. That's unconstitutional, you psychopath. That's unconstitutional. We psychopath. That's unconstitutional. We have a progressive tax law already.

You want tax law aimed at people that will make people that make money leave the country. We're going to go to that story, but I'm going to say this. Elad is simply just trying to say anything that gives him the correct position in the argument,

even though nothing he said has even aligned with anything he said prior. Right? You just keep changing what you're saying. No, you guys just aren't aren't listening to what I'm saying. They're specific. I believe in a progressive tax rate. And well, let's let's go one point at a time. What is a progressive tax rate? The more income that you have, the higher income that you have, the higher percentage that we tax you out. And how does the how does a progressive tax rate work? The more income that you earn,

there are different brackets. Let's say if you earn, I don't know, up to 50k, it'll be something like 15, 20%. Then you go to 100k, it'll go up to like 20, 200k, 25. The issue is when you are you saying that if you pay 100k, you would have to pay 30,000 in taxes. But if you paid 50k, you'd pay 5000 in taxes? The issue is with the top individuals that I'm talking about specifically that don't pay taxes in a normal way. And what does that mean, a normal way? So again, people like Jeff Bezos, where their net worth is bound up in, again, one of some of the biggest companies in the world right now. Do you have stock? Yes, I do have stock. Are you paying taxes on that stock? When I sell, I do.

Oh, so Jeff Bezos should have to pay when he doesn't sell because it's different from you? No, but see, Tim, here's the issue. I'm not comparable to Jeff Bezos in any way. It doesn't make sense to tax me in any similar way that you're going to tax Jeff Bezos. Somebody who has hundreds of millions of stock. Slow down, slow down. Yeah, but that's my point. Slow down.

Okay, let's try this again. So you're saying that at a certain level of imagined wealth, it's called imaginary wealth. There's real wealth and then imaginary. The value of stock is considered imaginary, and that's the actual term. So you believe that there should be a law that states at a level of imaginary wealth, we should take cash from you, real wealth. So I'm not sure about the specific mechanisms of how the laws will be set up i think there are issues with how we tax our top net worth individuals in this country and i think that's plain and obvious issue um that they pay less than the people well hold on hold on

i showed you the graph they don't pay less all right so again i was telling you this graph isn't specific enough so the top one percent is over inclusive to like the top income earners in our country. So within the 1%, there's a 1% issue of the 1%. of one million up to infinity pays substantially more taxes than all other income brackets despite the fact they make up one percent of tax of the tax base they are paying somewhere around 60 percent of all taxes i think in within the one percent the 99 percent pays more a lot more the the one percent of the one percent isn't paying their fair share, I guess. That is incorrect. Well, that's your opinion. It's not an opinion. That's a fact.

You know that Elon Musk... What do you pay? Like $70 billion or something? Elon Musk paid more taxes than any other human in history in, I think it was 2021 or 2022. The impression that you have, Elon, the impression that you have is not actually... I think you have a lot a lot the impression that you have is not actually yeah i think you have a misunderstanding i literally tried to articulate your argument back to you but you were too busy talking over me we're gonna go we're gonna go to the next we're gonna next story i'll just wrap up

by saying elon musk paid 11 billion dollars cash taxes in 2021 11 billion more than any other person in human history okay so uh your talking points are our progressive leftist activist talking points. They're incorrect, but we're going circles. Let's jump to the story from Yahoo.com. Salem police investigate shooting at Tesla dealership. Heavens me. Elon Musk over here paying 11 billion dollars in taxes in 2021. And activists are trying to take his life. Take a look at the story. Salem police are investigating a Wednesday morning shooting that damaged windows at a Salem Tesla dealership. Police responded to reports of damaged windows at the dealership at about 5 a.m., according

to spokesperson Angela Hedrick. Officers found what appeared to be damage from gunshots, she said. They said no arrests have been made and the incident remains an active investigation. Well, we do have this tweet from Nick Sorter, who says the showroom showroom was shot up in Oregon. The second criminal incident at this location in recent weeks, the first was an arson attack on January 20th. This is a result of Democrats and legacy media calling Elon Musk Hitler. He says someone is going to get killed. Also, this month, protesters put stickers on the windows of another Tesla showroom in New York, saying a calling on people to harm Elon.

I don't want to read what it says. This needs to stop. Authorities need to make very clear example out of these criminals. This is what happens when people fundamentally misunderstand how the government works, how paying taxes works. These people, in their minds, believe that Elon doesn't pay any taxes, that he's exploiting and ripping off his workers, and that now he's going and stealing your private data from the government. It has radicalized people to the point where they are shooting up Tesla dealerships. Let me just make sure I iterate this before. I know, guys, I'm ranting, but these people are

so psychotic. They would threaten the lives of floor sales people who probably make 60 70 thousand dollars a year at a local car dealership that's how insane they are yeah and this is the same like the the the mindset of oh these billionaires don't pay enough money that's how you get a dude that's worth $40 million killed, the CEO of the healthcare company. He got shot in the back because the rich don't pay their fair share and the healthcare companies are taking advantage of us, even though the issue at hand is that there is the government in between people and their actual healthcare.

The fact that there's insurance that has to be, you have to use insurance to be has to go and get their money from, as opposed to when a new product is invented or there's an innovation in the market that actually grows the pie, those two ideas are conflicting. It is not true that there is a fixed amount of money to be shared amongst everybody. And the best evidence of that is the iPhone. Before the iPhone was invented, before the iPhone came onto the market in 2007, there were smartphones and there were things that did what the iPhone did, but it was not ubiquitous the way the iPhone was in just a few years.

And that's because the revolution in interface that the iPhone was for a smartphone made everybody feel like they needed one. and it made the actual industry grow. Apple became a much larger country. Luxuries become requirements as things get normalized. The point that I'm making is that innovation drives the size of the pie everyone's going for. It's not that the pie is fixed. The pie does grow when you have innovation in a market. So this the issue we have, it's fascinating. Like, you know, Elon is trying to find and gut

the bloat in government. He's talking about I think they said they saved fifty five billion dollars already, which could be a couple hundred bucks per person already in this country. And the left, the Democrats, the media are claiming that Elon is trying to steal your private data, despite the fact that Elon Musk owns X and already has the private data of hundreds of millions of individuals. But what is it like 200 million people and also ran PayPal and had everyone's private data? And and my favorite my favorite part of the story is that the government agencies and the people there already have your private data. So if John Smith is a raging Trump supporter and working in the Treasury Department, you don't care. But if Elon Musk wants to send in a couple of IT guys to go through the numbers and do an audit, now you're concerned about someone taking your private data. This is this is catastrophizing. It's hysteria. It's intended

to protect the machine state because I will stress this USAID, these other government institutions dumping money into D.C. And by the way, we have a story for you for today where criminal lawyer fraud, suicide are all trending in Washington, D.C. Google trends. The people live there are searching these things. It's horrifying. I hope everyone's OK. But after Trump said we're going to cut out the fraud, a lot of people started doing searches for things about self-harm. That's insane. Yes. And I've got the graph. We'll pull it up in a little bit. Elon Musk says, let's go find the fraud. And then the machine says Elon is evil. Stop him. And now people are shooting up and vandalizing Tesla locations. I remember back during Occupy when

they smashed up a Bank of America window right next to Zuccotti Park. And I asked them, why did they smash the windows? And they said, so that we can teach Bank of America a lesson. And I said, and what lesson do you think you taught them? And they were like that. We are not going to remain silent. And they're they're this close to violence. And I said, do you think anyone in any capacity of management, senior leadership, executive management or on the board knows you broke that window?

And they were like, I don't know. And I'm like, I'll tell you who knows you broke the window. It's the guy who works in there for $40,000 a year who walked into his office and found glass all over his desk. You think that guy is going to like you, adhere to your cause? And he's in the same income bracket as you. Why did you smash up the Starbucks window? Same reason. I said, do you think any of these $12 an hour Starbucks employees understand your message? All they know is they showed up for work and the boss said, we're closed today. The window has been smashed. And they said, but bro, I need the hours. And the boss said, sorry, we can't do anything about it. Looks like no one's working

today. And now the dude's not gonna pay his car bill. The things these people do is unhinged. And it's because they are very low order thinkers. They don't understand how taxes work. They don't understand. And I'm gonna say this to you guys. The most important thing about Elon's business, Amazon's business and paying taxes and employment is that businesses do what the government requires they do. And most people don't know this. But usually when your company has a policy that you hate, it's because the government makes them do it. That and insurance companies. Yeah. But you're sitting there being like,

why do we have to do these stupid sexual harassment seminars? Man, my company's lame. Well, the government makes them do it. The government has a law called the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which talks about discrimination. And if you act in any way against it, you'll be sued into oblivion. And so the insurance companies then say, we would accept liability unless you enact these things because the law says you can't. And they go, I guess we have no choice. And here we are with them saying Elon and the billionaires, Bill Burr calling for. Look at this. Bill Burr comes out and he called for the death of billionaires. And now we have this stuff targeting Elon Musk. These you know what it is, man. You said earlier that these people think that billionaires are only rich because they're taking from the poor.

It's actually the other way around. Poor people's standard of living increases exponentially when wealthy people develop things. Yes. And let me just pause right there and not say it is not that you are inherently wealthy. It makes you a good person. There are heirs to great fortunes who have done nothing for society. And there are people who make money off of day trading and not really do anything other than ripping and extracting from the market. But Elon Musk has satellites with low latency internet that can broadcast almost everywhere in the world. Now phones are attaching to them and we can get cell signal anywhere. He makes electric cars, which all the climate change people should be cheering for. And he's working on space technology, which has reduced the cost of satellite launches and space travel

substantially. Elon Musk then purchased Twitter, turn it to X, reduced the cost of satellite launches and space travel substantially. Elon Musk then purchased Twitter, turned it to X, increased the amount of free speech, decreased the amount of censorship. Far from perfect. He's certainly done a tremendous amount of good. In fact, he doubled the margins of Twitter. The Democrats like to say and the liberals like to say X is worth nothing. Remember, it was worth forty four forty four billion when he bought it. Now it's worth seven. Well, the reality is, I believe it was the Wall Street Journal came out with a report saying, actually, his costs were cut in half and the margins doubled. Theoretically, the company's worth substantially more now because they're turning more profit despite a lower revenue. He got rid of that overhead. Elon is doing tremendous work. It's working out very well.

He is generating wealth and jobs. And through his leadership, many other people are able to live better. Not all rich people are good. Not all poor people are good. But some and many rich people who are leaders of industry who work relentlessly and run their companies make it possible for other people to have jobs which allow their standard of living to increase. Hence, your dental care today is better thanfeller's was the turn of the century and the the it's great that you mentioned um you know dental care and stuff because the industries that don't have the government involved in them on a regular basis when it comes to health care or or you know people's bodies or whatever your your plastic surgery um things like laser lasik surgery for your eyes, rhinoplasty, which is plastic surgery, dental work, all that stuff, those tend to get cheaper as time goes on because of innovation

and the market. The things that don't get cheaper are the things that are necessary care that you have to have insurance for. So it should be cheaper to set a broken bone nowadays than it was 100 years ago, right? It should be cheaper to set a broken bone nowadays than it was 100 years ago. It should be cheaper. You would think it would be cheaper and easier nowadays with all the technology and stuff. It's not. And it's not because there is no market.

The cost of medical care, they don't share it with the consumer. So the consumer can't say, well, I'm going to go to someone else who will do it cheaper. You need markets to drive prices down because that competition is what makes – is one of the things that makes things get better. Let's give a real great example. Amazon wanted to open a factory or warehouse or whatever in New York. They said over 10 years we expect to generate $30 billion in revenue. We'll be providing 100 or was it like 10,000 jobs or something like that. So this means the people in New York are gonna have jobs. The city of New York is going to generate 30 billion

in tax revenue over 10 years. And the city said, we definitely want this. You give a dollar from your company to a person, you pay employment taxes, that person buys a cheeseburger, pays a sales tax, that money goes to the government in the end. And so they were very excited. AOC began to held rallies saying the government is letting them come here for free and giving them a cheaper tax deal. Yes, Amazon was looking for a place to set up shop. Governments were saying, we will give you what will waive taxes of this, that or otherwise.

You come here. It'll be cheaper for you if you work here because we want the revenue. We want the jobs. We want the industry because the industry brings wealth with it. Thanks to AOC and her ilk, Amazon decided not to do it. And it it destroyed a great opportunity for the people in New York that was going to be used largely to fix their decaying subway system. See, these leftists don't understand how taxes work. She came out and said, New York is giving Amazon billions of dollars. No, it was a tax rebate. It was after they pay the taxes, they get like a rebate. So it means they would ultimately pay very few taxes if they move there. But you see, progressive activists don't know how any of these laws work. I got to tell you, you know, it's really frustrating. What's that? Is

that people think, well, this is really funny. I tell people, like, you know, you can't just give a family member money. It's like, I learned this the hard way. I started a company, and I'm like, oh, I got some money. Like, let me, you know, give somebody a family member. My accountant's like, that's illegal. And I was like, it is? And they're like, you can't just give money to somebody.

And I was like, oh, well, so how do I buy something? They got to pay income tax on it. And I was like, my family member. If I, like, buy a car for a family member, it's like, yeah, they got to pay tax on its income. And I'm like, okay, well, so I can't buy someone a car? Absolutely not. I said, okay, what if I like pay off their credit card? You're giving them money. I said, if I pay off their debts, yes. When someone's got a thousand dollars in debt and you say, I'll pay your credit card off for you, you just gave them $1,000 and that individual owes taxes on it. People don't understand how the government works. Most people get their taxes taken out of their paycheck and they never see

this stuff. Then when you're running a business, you're like, someone says, I'd like a raise. Well, I can't give it to you. Why not? Because that would put you double the market rate. We're already paying you really well. And they'll say, well, I think I deserve it. I'm going to quit. It's like, okay, then do it. Because we're going to get audited if they find out we're paying someone at your rate. We're dealing with this stuff in West Virginia. I've been ranting about it relentlessly.

We are not legally allowed to hire Elad. How about that, Elad? I knew I always loved New York better than this state. Yeah, Elad is, we're not legally out legally allowed to legally allowed to have him work here you're gonna have the chat real excited to him i don't know maybe we get too into it it's his last show no no no i'm just kidding so uh i'll still be around guys don't get too excited before we jump in the next story just one final thought on this to explain how psychotic the government is and how when i when i when i when i'm running a business and i'm dealing with

tax tax tax attorneys corporate attorneys and accountants i I hear about Jeff Bezos and I go, oh, so that's why he does that. Oh, so that's why they're doing that, because legal requirements put them in positions where this out has to be structured. Then there's corporate interests, of course, for the health of the company, fiduciary responsibility. Publicly traded companies aren't allowed to disclose information share. It's absolutely insane. You're not allowed to you're not OK. Publicly traded companies aren't allowed to take actions not OK. Publicly traded companies aren't allowed to take actions that would cost the shareholders money. All of this stuff is locked in by the government. So the West Virginia government told us we aren't legally allowed

to buy content from a lot. So a lot as an individual of his own volition wants to go cover a news event and then asks us, hey, guys be interested in carrying this and we say yes we're not legally legally allowed to do it anymore i don't understand the leftist uh point talking point of um trump uh he wants to cut the taxes for the rich they say um and if or like amazon as well they're giving amazon a discount amazon's coming to new york and aoc stopped it but people who live in new y, because of the tax break they're going to get from the government, whatever, they're going to create, you know, 25,000 jobs. Yeah. How do they not understand that? Who cares? Amazon gets a little break. To be completely honest, they're going to give people jobs. And it may be a bit disrespectful is because arguments from

like Elad in that regard does he does not understand legal requirements tax law and the structure of how tax taxes and revenue is okay raymond let me explain to you part of why what the issue was it's because it's not actually real capitalism it's crony capitalism if you're going to get a different deal than other companies that decide to come do business in new york city why does why do you have different laws why does amazon have a carve out to try to entice them to come to the city is what the argument was so they were getting special special benefits the out to try to entice them to come to the city is what the argument was. So they were getting special special benefits. The argument would be to entice them to come to this city over another city.

But then at the end of the day, this isn't something cities should be doing to try to entice over different companies to have them come to their cities. Why not? OK, it's a huge one million. Then it's a race to the bottom and then we don't have equal laws for all the companies. Let's roll okay so why is it that uh when i tweeted we were going to leave west virginia over their insane laws which make it so that we can't hire people like a lot force like we can't buy content from them i don't want to say hire like literally the dude's like hey i filmed this thing would you like to run it it's not allowed it's not allowed so uh i said we

can't operate if if i can't have a reporter who did a documentary or a video, if we can't buy the rights to that, which we literally can't under this law, then we can't operate in West Virginia. Well, this caused a huge backlash in the state. Several delegates from the state started reaching out to my family members. I started getting text messages. I got a couple of telltales from the government. People were tweeting the governor is trying to reach out to you. Now, why would that be the case? Because we have a large corporation that generates lots of money and there are in the area. The employees here pay rent. They pay property tax on the properties they own.

They purchase coffee. They purchase cheeseburgers. When the people move here, when all the members of TimCast.com buy a membership, that money effectively pools in the bank accounts in West Virginia. We then use that money to pay contractors to fix toilets, to pay IT guys to set up computers, to pay journalists and reporters in New York to produce content. And then from the money we spend in West Virginia, largely, it creates ancillary economic boons. So the state says we need this industry in our state. We need more industry because that means the guy who is a pizza maker, he's been he's running a pizza shop in West Virginia for 50 all that stuff up, those stores had to hire more people to accommodate the increase in people, bringing even more people in. All of a sudden, that pizza shop owner, his property values tripled. All of a sudden, he's selling more pizzas than he can. And he says, guys, we got to expand. So he hires more people. Well, one day, Elad shows up and says, we shouldn't have laws like this. You shouldn't be allowed to offer tax benefits to these companies. No, no, no, no, no. I believe

that you shouldn't be able to give special incentives to specific companies that our government negotiates with corporations that give them different rules than other corporations in the neighborhood. That isn't capitalism. It's crony capitalism. Let me finish. So that's why you don't want to do it. How about you? Well, let me finish. West Virginia passed a law which makes it illegal for us to buy content from a lot. In order for a lot to sell content to us, he had to. Oh, he has to open a West Virginia business, get permitted and everything that goes along with it. And it costs a lot of money.

Then he has to pay taxes in two states. Ouch. That's right. So they're double dipping and taking money from him. And if he doesn't pay it, they come to us and demand that we do. That's the law. OK, other states don't have that law. Not that I have to negotiate with anybody. I don't got to negotiate with the governor. I can say, Governor, with all due respect, your laws are abject evil. I should be allowed to contract from an individual wants to sell a product to me. So you know what? I will drive

10 miles to a different state that has none of these laws. Do you think West Virginia wants to lose that tax base and the economic boon to all the people who live in the area? No, they would consider giving you a special carve out. Right. Now, I'm not a fan of that, so I largely rejected it. However, what would happen to the pizza shop that now has hired five employees to accommodate all the pizzas that we order if we leave? They would be fired. And that is capitalism. And the shop may go out of business. You know why? The expanded infrastructure of the pizza shop,

including their footprint, the gas, the propane they buy, the electricity, when they get a bigger building, now their mortgage goes up, now their rent goes up. All of a sudden, overnight, overnight, their revenue drops by 40, 50%. And he says, it's not that I have to fire you guys. I have to sell the building. We were expanding, and then they pulled the rug out from under us. Now there's no pizza shop.

It's all gone. So what does West Virginia do? They say, let's talk to Tim Pool and figure out how we make this work for him, because clearly something is not right. That's called standard negotiations. And it's called how humans operate with each other. We do not live in a rigid machine world where everything is predicated upon if this, then that. Human beings have we have judges. And the reason we have a judiciary is to interpret the law as to what makes the most sense. And that is two human beings are allowed to come to an agreement like Eric Adams and Donald Trump. Does that mean we'll be seeking a carve out? Will Tim Cass be seeking a carve out from the government? I have reached out to the governor. He has responded. We have not yet had a conversation.

But I'm actually seeking the overturning of West Virginia's Employment Classification Act of 2021, whatever it's called, which makes it literally illegal to be like, let me just hammer it out very simply. Elad lives in a different state. Sometimes he films news. He then reached out to us and says, would you like to buy this product that I have made? We then said, that's actually pretty good. We'll take it. They came to us, told us he was a full-time employee, that we now have to pay a penalty. They're saying, no penalties, but everything you've paid him, we want you to pay an additional percentage on top for everything you've ever bought from him.

And I said, he's a contractor. We paid our bills as if he was a contractor. We paid our bills as if he was a contractor, as per our lawyers and our accountants. And they said, we don't care. So now I'm like, OK, so now what's happening is they've sent us this massive tax bill demanding money from us because they're trying to squeeze blood from a stone. And I would I would rather leave this state than let them rip me off and disrespect me the way they are. That is absolutely psychotic. But you know what?

Anyway, let's talk about news. This tax stuff. It's taxing. I feel like I've learned more from this than I have in four years of high school. Well, I have good news for you. Welcome to higher up. This next story from the postmillennial RFK Junior's Department of Health and Human Services officially defines woman as an adult human female. Chloe, your thoughts?

It's ridiculous that we have to do that. It's like something that we can just see plainly with our eyes. How do you feel about the fact that the – I mean obviously it is – I think we mostly agree with you that it is ridiculous. But how do you feel about the fact that this administration is taking the ideologically possessed to task with this and making it a part of actual government policy? I mean this is exactly what we've needed for years. The other side has just gone too far and this is exactly the kind of this is it sucks that that's what we need but i'm losing my train of thought yeah no we were i mean for for people that might not be aware of you why don't you tell a little bit about your

your your story and your experience so i went through a medical gender transition while I was still a child because I... How old? I was 12 when I started calling myself a boy. And that was after years of going through a bit of an early puberty and the distress that comes with that, the sexual assault. And I was just a tomboy. And that's where these feelings of distress came from. And because I was so distressed, I wanted to not have a female body. Then my doctors in the state of california agreed no you're not a you're not a girl these feelings are real how did did they did they define boy and girl for you

no there was no definition again i got to choose my own definition wow based on my own feelings all based on feelings and children are being in vulnerable people who do not have, who are not in the mindset to be making major lifelong decisions, are being allowed to have parts of their bodies cut off and be castrated for life because of temporary distress. And men are being allowed to go into women's private spaces and invade what used to be safe for us, go into our bathrooms, go into our locker rooms, go into programs specifically made for us. And yes, prisons. And of course, they're taking advantage of this. They've been sexually assaulting us. They've been raping us. Women in prison are now getting pregnant because there are men being housed with them. You know, what's fascinating is that there was no definition of boy, girl, man or woman.

Whenever you would ask one of these liberals or leftists, they would just say, ha ha, you don't know what a woman is. And it's like, I do, but you know, they can't answer that themselves. And so the interesting thing is, though, they can't define it, but they can prescribe a surgery to adhere to the lack of a definition. Which is, of course, based on the sex-based definition, because that's the only definition of male and female. So if they say it's whatever you want it to be, then certainly a female does not need to have a mastectomy to be a boy because

it's whatever you want it to be, right? So why are we pushing people to these? And why were they prescribing these treatments? So when you initially started having these feelings was there someone encouraging you or did you have people that were encouraging you or how did you how did you stumble across upon the idea that you may not be a girl in the first place so i wasn't there weren't people like directly guiding me necessarily um as i said i was kind of a tomboyish girl and you know i i connected more with like my male role models models and especially my big brothers and the boys around me at school. And there were so many times when I thought, I don't feel like I'm very feminine. I don't feel like I fit in with the other girls around me. And I don't even feel like I'm pretty enough to be a woman. And I hate these changes that are coming coming with puberty so why would i ever want to be a woman like everything i hear about being a woman it's always about periods menopause the fear of aging and nobody ever talks about the good things so why would i ever want to do that eventually start

having like the like i would like look in the mirror and think like i'm never gonna be a good woman so why should i just be a boy i would have been so much happier if I were a young man than a young woman. So it sounds like to me, the way you're articulating, it sounds like you're saying you had a discomfort with being a woman more than you had a belief that you're a man. And eventually that became a belief that I was a young man, but that didn't naturally come on its own. I started using social media when I was about 11 man, but that didn't naturally come on its own. I started using social media when I was about 11 and I got my first cell phone. And I would mostly browse like stuff that was like oriented around my interest. But a lot of the kids that were also in these communities online just so happened to be young girls and sometimes boys who called themselves

by the opposite sex. And this was nothing I'd ever like really read about my whole life. So it was very novel, very interesting. This wasn't on Tumblr, was it? Well, I wasn't really using Tumblr a whole lot at the time. But there was like a lot of overlap between Instagram, which is primarily what I was using, and that community. There was like a lot of cross posting between the platforms. So it was basically the same kind of culture between the two.

And probably after the Tumblr shut down then. No, it was like, I'd say it was probably like five years before that maybe. But seeing these other kids who I could relate to more than anybody that I knew in real life and seeing them seemingly become happier through doing this and get through all the same problems that I had was like, wait, this is like the logical next step for me because they are just like me what was your parents reaction to all this stuff um when i first told them they didn't really they were kind of at a loss like they knew that i was

a tomboyish girl um but they i don't any parent, any sane parent wants to hear this from their own kid. Like, I feel so distressed that I don't want to be the person who I was made to be in your womb. That's, I felt it's such a painful thing for a mother or father to hear from their own kid. And it certainly was for them. But they could see, like, it was clearly a mental health issue for me. And it probably came from some of my other social and emotional difficulties that I was going through at the time. And just me being a kid going through puberty and they had the right idea like they were okay with me just like experimenting with the way that i dressed and stuff and nothing beyond that they didn't believe that i was actually their son

but they had their hand forced when they decided that they were going to send me to a therapist to get me a psychiatric evaluation and mental health help. They, I mean, for one, they weren't allowed in the room with me. So they didn't know what was actually going on. Your parents weren't what? They weren't allowed in the room with me during these consultations by California law. What age? I was 12 going on 13 at the time.

And I was going to my eighth grade year of middle school. So when my mom and dad spoke to the therapist themselves— And your parents were not allowed to be in the room? No. So there's a California law that basically—it emancipates minors at the age of 12 for the purpose of their mental health. Wow. So they can seek mental health treatment without the involvement or notification of their parents.

But you said they weren't allowed, so was it your choice for them to? So they were the ones who had me see the therapist, but because I didn't give express consent to have them in there with me, then they weren't allowed to know what was discussed during these appointments or just be in there. They just had to wait outside the door and wait for me to come out. And there was no follow-up or anything.

And I was like a 12-year-old kid with communication issues. And just the fact that we were being separated had me thinking like, wait, what if there's things that – what if my mom and dad would get angry at me for talking about this? So I just didn't. There's implication in that. There's a lot of times they don't, or at least the, if you're separating children from parents, there's an implication to the child that's not communicated verbally, but there's an implication that, hey, maybe there's something wrong with your parents knowing this. Right. And and i mean if you're already like a kid who doesn't have a super close relationship with their parents in the first place then that's going to further divide that and so things when you when you start to separate a child from the parent things will get worse for them in every way so i was going to therapy but nothing was happening

other than being me other than me being told like oh yeah you are a boy your feelings are real and you you like we're going to expect your mom and dad to go along with this there is nothing actually happening to help me with real issues that i had like with i was going through a bit of a depression at the time because all my friends were older than me and i was in eighth grade but everybody else to all my all my older friends had graduated and gone to high school by that point. I was being bullied at school. And I just wanted to feel like I had some place of belonging and some sense of understanding myself and an identity. And that was really all I needed. And the fix to that would have just been simple. They made it to this complex thing. There was this theory that I heard. There are a decent amount of kids who claim to be trans. It's actually because something in their life, maybe they're young, high school, 14, 15. Let's say because we're in the era, you know, everyone would be like, whoa, dude, you see him barf. These days you barf in the cafeteria.

Somebody filmed it. It's up on social media. It's permanent. It's forever. And so I was reading this thing about how there are some therapists who believe that when a child in grade school or high school experiences a trauma and it's attached to them permanently through social media, there is only one way to escape that. Change who you are. And that they've encountered certain circumstances where the individual who was distressed was actually trying to escape something attached to their name. Hence, they wanted to change their name and change who they were. And when they went to councils and said,

I have anxiety all the time. I don't feel right. I'm constantly being bullied, blah, blah, blah. They said, maybe you're trans. And they said, what does that mean? And they said, we can change your name. We can change who you are. You'll go to a different school. You'll be a different person. And that was an escape to the bullying and trauma of their previous person. And not only that, if anyone at the other school dead named that person and brought up anything from their past, you'd get in trouble. So they're protected you're protected you can't be bullied anymore as long as you go along with this thing oh yep i mean i am part of the first generation of kids who grew up with basically these eyeballs all around us that if somebody catches something

stupid that you're doing or saying it's on the internet forever and people know you for it forever and i definitely sent that felt that sense of pressure growing up. I was bullied not only at school, but also people would like say like, like post like photos of me and like say awful things about me online. These other kids who I went to school with. And I think it's no wonder that kids want to escape the mistakes of their past when they're not allowed to live it down.

Well, it's all changing now. It's a RF Jr. formally states. The HHS has released their updated definition for sex going through, you know, all elements of the department, blah, blah, blah. It says sex is a person's immutable biological classification. Female is a person of the sex characterized by a reproductive system with the biological function of producing eggs or ova.

Male, same thing, but sperm. Woman is an adult human female. Girl is a minor human female. Man is an adult human male. Boy is a minor human male. Mother is a female parent. Father is a male parent. And immutable is a key word here because no matter what somebody does to their body, whether they have their puberty stopped or they take cross-sex hormones over the course of a few years or they get their sex organs chopped off or reconfigured,

you cannot actually change your sex. It's something that stays with you for life. It's determined at conception. And you just become somebody with less parts or less functioning parts of your body. I mean, Chloe, was there something that happened that made it click in your head that you are in fact a woman? So throughout most of my transition, I was pretty confident that for whatever reason, I wasn't happy again.

The euphoria that initially came with transitioning and with being recognized as a young man at school and with perfectly passing as the opposite sex was going to go away. And it just became life and things were worse after the fact. But I started really ruminating because it's like, nobody had ever presented this idea to me before, not even my own doctors, that I could regret things one day or that could be harmful or detrimental for me. So I thought that the issue was still my body and that I still had to change something. And I still had breasts. I'd already gone through a little bit of puberty. had like decently developed breasts and I wanted I thought oh

that's it I have to get rid of this I am going to get surgery to get rid of these things and I'm not going to have to worry about changing the locker room anymore I am not going to have to wear a shirt while swimming or while hanging out with my friends anymore I can just be like a normal guy and never have to bind ever again. But as soon as I had the surgery, something clicked. And I think what it was was that it was so irreversible and so immediately impactful. I had to grapple with the fact that I lost organs off of my body forever.

That would hit hard. Around this time, I started realizing, wait, I kind of missed some of the things about being a girl, just socially. I didn't miss periods. I didn't miss all the other things that come with female puberty but just the little things like wearing makeup wearing mascara having fun with my hair you know ollie london yes i do um ollie london said that uh after he kept getting all these surgeries constantly thinking there's one more would do it. And then after one moment, he just realized no matter how many surgeries he got, he didn't feel any better.

And he needs to stop doing this. It's basically, it works very similarly to a drug addiction or dependency. But I think what really broke the glass for me, what completely took down the house of cards for me was i was so when i had surgery i was 15 and i was turning i was turning i turned 16 about a about a year after about about a month afterward and then i was like wait i'm almost 18 years old i'm almost legally an adult i'm gonna have to start thinking about my future beyond just what school i want to go to i've never had a relationship before i've i don't think I even had a first kiss by the point in time. So I was thinking, wait, so when I have a relationship, am I going to get married? Is my partner going to call me a wife or a husband?

And if I have children one day, which how, I don't know how I'm going to do that while I'm on testosterone. I'm probably going to have to go off off which is probably going to induce more dysphoria and even if i i'm off of it for a while what risks are there for me being a pregnant mother and any risk of birth defects for my child and psychologically how is transition how is me being how is me choosing to transition going to affect my children how am i going to explain to my kids that i'm not actually their second father i'm a mother but i've chosen to live the lifestyle of a young man i'm taking all these drugs to try and become something that i'm not is that not going to be damaging for them and then i had this i had this lesson in my senior my junior year of high school about um i think it was the harlow

experiments on rhesus monkeys the wire mother mother versus cloth mother. And it was the first time that I ever really thought about like breastfeeding or nursing in depth. And it hit me, wait, so there's this like almost like universal experience for every mother who has naturally had their child of breastfeeding. And this is very special. And there's a lot of bonding and other things that go on during this. I'm never going to have that. What do you mean I'm never going to have that? Did I just lose potentially major parts of my adulthood during my childhood and on one hand i basically logicked my way out of my transition but on the other hand the grief and the pain was what finally made me decide that i couldn't go through with it anymore. Wow.

Because it was killing me, literally. I was experiencing physical complications from it. I was having blood clots. I was having urinary tract issues. I didn't want to know how much worse my health was going to get if I kept going down this path. And I couldn't forgive myself. I thought, if I'm a mother,

then I must be a monster for taking this away from my kids. And how, I'm still a woman. None of this actually made me into a man. Am I just ugly now? Am I just a freak forever? I don't have any breasts.

I look like a man. I sound like a man. I have the voice of a ground man. As a 16-year-old girl. You're not, by the way. Thank you. At the time, it was really rough, though. I didn't think I ever would recover. like a man i have the voice of a ground man as a 16 year old girl you're not by the way thank you at the time it was it was really rough though i didn't think i ever would recover and one of the things that they used to really push my mom and dad

in the in into saying yes to all this was the idea that i would commit suicide if i wasn't affirmed and if I wasn't allowed to do basically whatever the hell I wanted. But the truth is that I wasn't even close to suicide before. I was lonely. I was depressed, but I wanted to have a better life. I didn't want to take my own life. This only brought me closer to suicide. I had never been closer to taking my life than during the detransition process because I thought that life was already over for me, that I wasn't going to make it to 18 years old, and that I wasn't going to ever be happy again.

That was very powerful. Thank you for the advocacy work you do. You're very brave to speak about this issue, and I know the pushback you get from the far left as a result of this so i commend you for speaking out so bravely on this thank you and yeah not to be just too hard of a segue after that powerful story yeah let's uh let's jump to this next story from this one's from the new york sun i'm using this as a launching point to elaborate into a deeper story. They say Google searches for criminal defense lawyers surge at Washington, D.C. with Trump in

the White House. Now, we did cover this story before, and I want to give a shout out to Mark Mitchell of Respiratory Reports because he has continued his investigation here, and it gets particularly worrying. The first thing I want to say before we get anything, if you or anyone you know has expressed or is feeling any kind of thoughts of self-harm, please reach out to someone you know and love. There's a story about the Golden Gate Bridge where they interviewed survivors, people who had jumped off trying to end their own lives. And they asked these people, what was the first thing that went through your mind when you jumped? And you know what they all said? No.

They regretted it. They realized every problem in their life was solvable except having just jumped off a bridge. That makes 100% sense. Universally, they all said they regretted it. And we are all worse off for everybody who takes their own life. Life is precious.

I am anti-death penalty, man. Even though I know there are bad people out there. With all that being said, Mark Mitchell has done the search and found that in the District of Columbia, the search term suicide has been spiking since the USAID story went viral. I decided to dig a little bit deeper than that and see how it correlates with other search terms, including criminal lawyer, which I brought up, layoffs, and fraud. And that's where things get very interesting. These search terms all track very close to each other, indicating their volume is comparable. For instance, we can see a criminal lawyer suicide layoff fraud in the District of Columbia for the month of February.

You can see that they're all relatively comparable in terms of their scale. Despite the fraud search term reaching 99 percent, you can still see that the other search terms track somewhat alongside it, sometimes overlapping. To show you that this is a direct correlation of comparable volume, I'm going to add the search term Super Bowl. I mean, look, criminal law is a fairly common thing, right? When you add Super Bowl, it basically erases all of the other search terms, indicating volume for Super Bowl greatly exceeds the volume for the other terms. Now, that's unfair. The Super Bowl is massive, right? Let's just try. I mean, that's only a three day, four day span, too.

When you put in the search term for pizza, you can see there is no trend. Pizza tends to go up on the weekends and then go down on the Mondays or whatever. But for the most part, search on Google in District of Columbia for pizza is basically the same and drops all of the other search terms down to single digits, sometimes one, two, four or otherwise, whereas pizza remains strong. So what this means is criminal lawyer, suicide, layoff and fraud are all being searched for in comparable volume, indicating that at the very least, how they are all beginning to trend around the same time and that they are all around the same numbers. It is likely one cohort in the District of Columbia that is experiencing something like this. I guess what I'm saying is

this is circumstantial evidence that following the gutting of USAID, now the IRS and these other government departments, the firing of these individuals and the fear of fraud has resulted in these people searching for these terms. When criminal lawyer was found to be going viral or trending on Google search, a lot of people were like, hmm, I wonder how many people near D.C. knew that they were defrauding the government. When you then see that Mark Mitchell searched for the term suicide and saw a comparable trend on Google in the District of Columbia, you have to wonder what is the motivating factor. That's why I add these other terms. It could be layoffs. It could be the fraud. But it seems to be that the actions being taken by Donald Trump has resulted in people panicking, fearing criminal prosecution, searching for the term fraud for any reason.

And some people contemplating self-harm, which I will stress, please, you know, seek help. Nobody, you know, don't do it. But simply to wrap it all up. There's a lot of reported suicides or attempts. Well, I mean, that's going to be hard to find. You know, you're like if it's a delicate issue and I don't know that any journalist wants to go to local fire departments in D.C. start asking him those questions, but maybe I mean, no, I mean, journalists sometimes ask those questions, real ones. But I think it's plain to see there's a lot of people who are probably guilty about something or scared of something yeah i mean there's part of me that wonders if people are

freaking out because of what they believe trump will do once like cash patel's in in uh you know once he gets into his position and he's confirmed and the actual policies that he that trump has been talking about i wonder if people think that this situation is they're going to persecute me because i was anti-trump as opposed to i know that i've actually done something wrong and i have to worry about it because there's so many people that have this hyperbolic under like they believe Trump is a dictator. They genuinely believe the garbage that they say about him, like Trump is Hitler, et cetera, et cetera. And so I wonder if this if these searches are because they're like, oh, man, they're on to me and they know what I've done.

Or if they're like, oh, Trump is the reincarnation of Hitler and he's going to come. It almost makes me wonder if it's like narcissistic, like self-aggrandizing, like I work at the IRS and he's going to come after me. It's like, well, you're not really that big of a deal there. I feel like if you're working for the government for the last couple of years, for the last whatever,

how long they've been working in the government, they've partaken in something that has been a kind of a bit shady, no matter what. I'm sure one little thing they did was like a little shady one day. Three years ago, they were like, wait, maybe that was wrong. Maybe I shouldn't have done that. And this might be like, oh, shoot, now they're going to come after us. They're going to come after this one thing.

In the interest of fairness, I'd like to read this super chat from Real Hydro. Hey. Who said,entine day just passed it's the time people look to end things take me just look for correlation to fit your narrative confirmation bias well sir in the interest of fairness i have just pulled up the search for valentine's day and suicide for the month of february and found zero correlation on any of the days. Yeah, I searched for a bunch of other terms, too. I searched for Trump. I searched for Biden. I searched for Democrats, Republican.

When I was doing my story earlier and pulling up this research, I didn't just choose those four words. Those are the four words that seemed to correlate to comparable volume. As you can see, Valentine's Day maintains a stable Google search trend, and there is no correlation with suicide. Even when Valentine's Day spikes to 100%, the suicide term doesn't move at all. There's no correlation at all. Is that a real thing? Do people— I'm sure that people are lonely and depressed.

But do they go to that—I mean, I've never heard of that being— It's clearly not there. Right. Clearly not there. There we go. So when you see that the term for suicide spiked, what day was it? February 5th. February 5th is when that term spiked alongside fraud at 100 percent, meaning for every four. So for every eight searches or how do we want to do the math on this one?

Let's just say it was three to four or four to three there were four fraud searches for every three suicide searches on the same day and that's february 5th not valentine's day that's kind of extreme man like i did a little fraud so i'm going to like consider you know well i mean look these i i i genuinely believe there are people in dc who are sweating bullets right now because they know they were sending in fraudulent invoices to the government. And Elon is auditing. And that's why the entire apparatus of the bureaucracy was fighting against Trump and Elon. Look, man, it's really simple.

Ten years ago, some guy gets out of college. He moved to D.C. You know, he's like, I'm going to work for these lobbying firms or whatever. And it's a job. He moves up a little bit. And then someone says, hey, submit this going to work for these lobbying firms or whatever. And it's a job. He moves up a little bit. And then someone says, hey, submit this invoice to the Treasury Department. And he looks and he goes, these are billable hours we didn't do. And he goes, ah, but just send them in anyway.

They'll pay it. Are we allowed to do that? Ah, they always just pay. That's what we do. Are you sure we're allowed to do this? This is how D.C. works, kid. Do you want to work in D.C. or not? You send in the hours.

They pay. And he goes, all right, I guess. send in the hours they pay. And he goes, all right, I guess a couple of years goes by and he's like, this is what we do. Start sending in hours himself saying, what do we do? We did 10 hours, call 20. Trump gets in and says, we're going to look for the fraud. And now this person is sweating bullets being like, I must have billed seven thousand hours over the past several years, ripping off the government for a million dollars. That's felony prison sentence level stuff. And everybody did it.

And now his lawyer's going, oh yeah, everybody was committing a crime, so you did too? Good luck telling the judge that. But they're looking up suicide. What are they looking up? Like, how do I? No, I don't care.

I'm just saying. I don't care. Take it back. Not a good search product. just fraud is a big deal and yeah sorry go ahead no i was wondering the same thing like if i don't know if this is insensitive to say i just think about all the times that i've been suicidal if you really intended we don't we don't we don't we don't we don't want to want to speculate or deep dive into any of that we We don't want people to do it. Or do we want anyone to learn or get any ideas as to what it could mean or why or anything?

Other than nobody should. And people love you. And if you're concerned about your friends and your family, for the love of all that is holy, please check on them. Because if you have those feelings, do the very opposite. Live harder. Live harder. And be responsible for the actions you've taken. You know, I apologize for cutting you guys off.

No worries. My concern is there's going to be one person out there and any kind of explanation or elaboration could lead someone down a dark path. We don't want that. No, we want everyone to live happy, healthy lives. Yep. Man. No matter who they are.

Look, I'm against the death penalty. I think there are evil people out there who do evil deeds and we have a right to defend ourselves. That includes lethal force, and this is codified in law when you're allowed to do it. Check your state laws. I'm not giving you advice on anything. But I still don, I don't I get it. I get it. I understand. I will just never glorify death from anyone for any reason, because we hope I mean, look, we life these are these life is light. It is it is the creation is the expansion. It's a miracle. There is, you know. It is there the laws of thermodynamics, as we know know them is that the universe tends towards chaos. And life is striving to fight against the darkness every single day. So we want in all our power to preserve life to the best of our abilities.

In every facet. And it's really, really difficult to do. Well, they're crooks. So they're looking up fraud and they're worried about Trump. And I'm worried about them too. Because, look, you may have taken money from the government illicitly or for whatever reason, but I don't want bad things

to happen to you. First of all, we want public accountability. We want to know what happened. We want penance. We want responsibility and accountability. And we want rehabilitation.

And we want to know that we are like, that we are going to do the best of the right by those who are wronged by this. And just, we want to be good. That kind of reminds me of, Ms. Chloe, love. I was saying love conquers all, because at the end of the day,

I'm sure you've discovered love, and that is a beautiful thing. Everyone loves love. Chloe, you've discovered love? I don't know. I just mean in general. This is awfully personal. not awkward at all i mean i discover love who doesn't love in general a love of life a love of god yes love of everything that i have that was exactly what i lacked before yeah and that's what leads people into dark places like

that yeah absolutely yeah phil love let's uh let's jump to this next story which is this is probably one of the more serious stories of the day this is from npr trump claims expanded power over independent agencies i appreciate the the simple narrative from npr in all honesty because what trump did was he basically said the constitution article one says the executive power is vested in the president. Congress at some point created independent agencies that and that they claim Trump has no authority over, despite the fact the progressive organizations because he issued an executive order saying federal agencies have to report to the Office of Management and Budget. And then we're going to supervise the things around the table have have said they kind of agree with that donald trump is trying to get the authority back into the office of the presidency the the constitutional authority over the executive branch so there's all these bureaucracies that have that have grown up in the underneath the cabinet ministers underneath underneath the secretary of state of secretary of of defense, all the cabinet, right?

So they all have a bureaucracy. Each cabinet position has a bureaucracy underneath them. And it's full of people that can't get fired. Government employees never get fired because there are unions that protect them, which are absolutely abhorrent. There should be no public sector unions. Unions should not exist to work against the American people. The office of the president should have the authority to fire

whoever he wants in the executive branch. So the executive branch is it exists in order to carry out the laws written by Congress. Congress writes the laws. The president executes them. That's why it's the executive branch. He does have latitude in how they're executed. And that's why there are some rules that can be made in the executive branch. But the all of the of the executive branch agencies, they've all become de facto legislators because the rules that they come up with have the force of law. And these are positions that you cannot that right now you it's difficult to fire people. And when I say difficult, almost impossible. So the point that Donald Trump is making with these kinds of moves

is to get this question in front of the Supreme Court so he can have the backing of the court to say, no, the executive does have the authority to fire people. The executive does have the authority to decide how things are carried out. And this is vitally necessary because the executive, as in the president, is elected by the people. The bureaucracy is not. We hear people talk about things like the entrenched bureaucracy and the forever state and the government that doesn't go away the bureaucracy has no risk they have no obligation to listen to the people there's some changes when a new executive comes in but when when the bureaucracy has been there for 20 years you know 15 20 years

they're not going to be all that concerned with a new administration it's basically business as usual that's why usaid usaid has done all the things that it's done that's why there's no changes at the fda that's why there's never any changes at the epa that's the that's why the government's power only grows so these are this is extremely important to get the power back to the elected official in the executive branch because that's the way that the people can actually decide how they're governed has um the congress for years been working towards um making the executive branch less powerful by making these independent agencies it's i would call it anarcho-tyranny

okay in that they've empowered it in the worst ways possible while curtailing it in the worst ways possible yep so both ends of the president. Yep. So the president can go to war whenever he wants, but can't stop the out of control spending and the corruption. Basically, Congress has empowered corruption in every aspect. Well, and both of those things that Tim's talking about are unconstitutional, right? The Congress voted to give President George Bush the authority to decide if he was going to take military action in Iraq.

And they did it because it was full of cowards that didn't want to actually vote on whether or not to go to war. The reason we haven't had an official war and we've only had police actions and the war on terror that was carried out under the the authorization to use military force it's because the congress has been spineless and afraid to actually vote yes or no on war if they've if they give the power to the president which they don't have any constitutional authority to do that right the constitution says congress declares war it doesn't say congress declares war unless congress is full of chicken shits that don't want to actually vote on it because they're afraid of their constituents so they can give that power to the president. You can't give that power to the president without a constitutional amendment. But Congress is cowards and the entire government is lawless. So we need to have the president have his constitutional powers, which is not to execute foreign wars or to engage in foreign wars, but is to fire bureaucrats.

Yeah, that makes sense. I would like to know, my friend, how do you feel about going over fighting in the desert and us going to war with them? You really doing that? How do I feel about fighting in the desert and us going to war with them without the... How do I feel about fighting in the desert? I feel like it's dry and hot to fight in the desert. If you fight in the jungle, it could be wet, muddy. Moist.

Moist. Nice word. It kind of sucks. That means the last 40-some years must shoot longer than that. We've been running an unconstitutional government. Yeah. All of our foreign actions. Yeah. Indeed. Yeah. It's terrible. Very clearly. Since the end of World War Two. Yeah.

And so now Donald Trump is trying to bring it all back to sanity. Love it. It is remarkable to me that Congress created agencies of the executive branch that operate outside the powers of the president because that's unconstitutional on its face. And now they're arguing it's unconstitutional for Trump to try and a third his constitutional authority as president. It is clear that their intent was to create a deep state bureaucratic machine that operated outside the confines of any branch and that Trump would try to stop it. They claim is what's wrong. Well, I say what Trump is doing is what needed to be done a long time ago. And for the first time in my life, we have a real president. Is that your best one? Best of all, that gentleman who said we've been infiltrated many years ago. You think that's the underlining?

I don't know. And, you know, I don't know. People might. I know. Yeah. You know, former KGB spy. Yeah. I love his work. I think he's spot on about the people that believe in communism the people that believe that that is the the goal of of society that the that it is an inevitable march towards a global society with no currency and no uh property um those people didn't just go away and those ideas just didn't go away just because the the soviet union fell apart um so i think oh yeah i think putin's one of them yeah he was a kgb guy oh yeah yep and he's long lamented the fall of the soviet union there are a lot of people in russia who feel the soviet union did not have to collapse and i don't completely disagree i mean there are ways to keep people oppressed. But it did. And a lot of these people were pissed off about it and want to bring it back.

I think the Soviet Union's collapse is one of the great American triumphs over communism. And it was a good thing. And we probably should have pushed harder before the CCP became a thing in China. Better to nip it in the bud sooner than later. You can thank the U.S. government for empowering China. Yes. Enriching them as well. Who was it?

Kissinger? I think Nixon. Nixon and Kissinger helped open relationship, trade relationship. Why is Wilcox the new Kissinger then? Why is Steve Wilcox the new Henry Kissinger? Well, Henry Kissinger was viewed as like a realist diplomat who, you know, did he really open China or just was he not thinking that pretending that Taiwan was the, you know, how long could we ignore China for before we try to build some sort of relationships with them? As I think it's this real politics school of thought. And he was able to accomplish a lot with his sort of diplomacy especially compared to the people who came

after him ding xiao ding xiao ping was the uh was the i guess what i forget prime minister of china at that time the chairman yeah he was the chairman at the time that nixon went over there and ding xiao ping had a different relationship with marxist theory than like mao so mao zedong was very he believed marxist theory he believed that that China was a Marxist-Leninist country with Chinese characteristics, whereas Deng Xiaoping believed that – he had a saying that was, I don't care if or what type of communist was as long as it provided for the people and kept the communist party in power and so that's why um that's why they opened up markets and that's why you have things like you know like china has has massive industry and they have what you would what looks like markets in in the in in china but they're all controlled by the ccp by the actual communist party that's why you like that's why uh you know

bite dance has an official ccp uh representative in their office like in the building they have someone that represents the ccp and they all know that if the ccp says do this they have to do this or the ccp will take their property we've got uh breaking news trump just signed an executive order terminating all taxpayer-funded benefits for illegal aliens and the end of subsidization of open borders so that's actually much i think more massive than people realize what things like tps and housing, jobs, vouchers, I mean, I'm curious about what's going to happen to these luxury hotels in New York.

I believe also illegal migrants get health care through the city in New York City, if I'm not mistaken. In Pennsylvania, we did, but you had to be a minor. We would give, even if, no matter who you are, we'd give in Pennsylvania. Not if you're an American citizen, though. Oh, no. You gotta look.

Yeah, it's very true. And then there's the right to housing laws in New York City, which is why all the migrants had to be housed in these different hotels and whatnot by law. So we'll see how. I'm sure this will go up to the courts, up through the courts. Why is he doing it so late at night? What's going on? I mean, now we've got to go super chat.

Bro, what do you mean? Yes, the man's working. He's always working. Remember when Joe Biden was in office and they would literally call a lid at one in the afternoon? He's running for office. He's done for the day.

I wish I could do that. I kind of do. You know, my struggle is to sleep enough. I used to not sleep because I just don't have time. Don't don't want it. Yeah. But now I'm trying to sleep more and it's actually very difficult. Like normally I would sleep six hours a night and I hear Trump does, too. And my sleep tracker was always like, you're doing great.

But now I'm like, I'm going to try and just get more sleep. Although my trackers now saying you can't force more sleep if your body doesn't need it you better get in while you can tim i've been doing about seven hours okay yeah oh no i'm getting more than that i need like 10 hours of sleep per night which after quarantine i used to get like 10 hours is nuts i used to go to bed at like 3 a.m women wake up at 3 p.m and then for like a few a few years while doing this stuff like i would get maybe like a total of like five hours per night, which is not good. Women require more sleep than men.

Yes, it's true. Yeah. So that's pretty messed up for a while as you can probably imagine. When I moved down here in my apartment, I bought a nice bed, like a really nice mattress. And that thing, I sleep for like nine hours if I don't set an alarm and I shouldn't be sleeping that long because like you know as you get older you're supposed

to get less you're supposed to require less and less sleep I thought really no you require more that's why grandma's old people slept less they wake up super early old Grammys they also go to sleep early oh no no no no no no so like I'm getting close to 40 and I've got my sleep and health and fitness trackers

and it gives you a detailed breakdown. And you need more sleep. You have less human growth hormone when you sleep. You get less testosterone when you sleep. So you need to really maximize your deep sleep, which is the first block within the first hour or so. I got a sleep eight bed. Amazing. Luke recommended it.

It's automated temperature control. So it adjusts the temperature to keep you asleep and maximize deep sleep. And then when you wake up, it shows you your REM, light, and deep sleep. And when you're awake, and it maps it out for you. And then based on your sleeping pattern, you can assess what your issues are. And so there's a whole bunch of tricks that it tells you, like, you want to maximize deep sleep. You want to get more REM sleep. I bought this thing called the Sleep Sanity.

It's like a mask with goggles. It's like it the Sleep Sanity. It's like a mask with goggles. It's like it's a weird thing. It's like a blindfold basically, but it's got Bluetooth. And when you go to bed, it has a yellow light. So it simulates sunset, which stimulates melatonin,

which gives you better deep sleep. And then when you're about to wake up, it stimulates sunrise. So it naturally wakes you up in the morning so that your hormone levels are all great. Yeah, because humans used to go to sleep when it got dark and wake up when the sun was coming out. You know what I'm saying? So I'm trying to maximize.

I'm just trying to make sure I'm doing everything as best as can possibly be done. Is it too permer for me to say that we're kind of overcomplicating something as simple as sleep with this? No. I mean, I just think it's science. You know what I mean? Yeah. I, I, I want to, I want to know why it is. Some days I wake up feeling tired and some days I wake up feeling great. And I want to make sure every day I feel, feel like I wake up feeling great. And so since I started using the sleep aid bed and the tracker, and, uh, there's a couple, there's a bunch of different strategies for the level of exercise you do.

Some say have a protein shake before bed. Others say don't drink too much. Otherwise, you'll wake yourself up. You have to go to the bathroom and that's bad for your sleep cycles. So there's strategies, but since I've done the basics of it, I've had no bad night's sleep

for five years or longer. Yeah. I almost always wake up feeling great and that's good. Maximum recovery. I wake up feeling great. And that's good. Maximum recovery. I wake up feeling great just because I woke up breathing. So it's always a benefit to me. For me, the issue is I work

basically 16 hour days. When I'm going to bed, if I'm not... It is... If for some reason I'm forced to stay awake, like I have to work until 1 in the morning for some reason, and then I go to bed, oh, I wake up in pain. Like, it's just so hard to work to think. Let's go to Super Chats, though.

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on rumble.com slash timcast IRL. But for now, we'll grab your superchats. All right. Fookit Freddy says, Elad is in the top 1% of the world and clueless. Well, all right. Cool. Jay Shields says,

damn, Bernie aged in reverse. i don't know oh is he talking about a lot again what was that one oh it's getting bad for you buddy said bernie aged in reverse as long as they're sending the super chats in it is money i hope they don't start roasting me i want to know everyone loves you a siri design says elad you're a communist and you don't even realize it bro um i don't think you're right, but okay. Taxation makes you a communist now. Believing in progressive tax rate makes you a communist. Well, I mean, you ask a libertarian and they'll say yes.

Well, I think the libertarians are a Trojan horse for the left, if anything, so good for them to think so. Who do you describe yourself as? Anti-left. Chase says Milo was right. Oh, man. Imagine thinking Milo being a role model so good for you yeah normies get out says elon is a commie i'll just i'm gonna skip over those

normies get out come on lance says the income tax was sold as a temporary tax for the wealthy only a lot does not realize whatever we agree to will come down on everyone that's well that's an interesting point. More understanding of the argument. Sure. So let's say we go, no, no, no, you're right. Bezos is a special case. Let's tax his unrealized gains.

50 years from now, every single person in this country will be taxed on anything they own, including a chair. I don't know how else to say this, so I'll say it one more time. The top net worth individuals in our country need a special case and there are laws that we apply to them will not apply apply to people who who earn less than like oh wait i just feel like you didn't listen to anything i just said yeah i did you said how now if we move forward with tax i literally read a super chat that said the income tax was sold based on exactly what you just said following the course of history it will will be applied, no matter what we do, to everyone. And then you said, again, as if you didn't listen to anything I just said.

No, the way I was expressing the mechanisms and how I want these laws to work, I mean, yeah, you're saying a bastardized version of what I'm advocating for. Okay, let's start again. That's like saying, if you ever advocate for any sort of censorship at all, don't you know that censorship

could be used against things you like? we shouldn't censor anything so the argument is the income tax was originally sold as only on the wealthy and the fear then is following that it will be the same whereas the censorship argument is a moral argument over what we censor when we decide to censor it and could go one of other directions. Taxes are only for one direction. The mechanisms that taxes are done through can be used improperly. I don't know what to say. Yeah, bastardized versions of the way laws are supposed to be used is bad and wrong. I just want to clarify. I mean, quite literally, if your argument is that the wealthy of this country should be taxed differently, that is socialist's it's socialist to think what say that one more time if

you believe that the highest tax bracket of wealth holders should have a special law placed against them to be taxed differently so the government should seize their wealth no not seize their wealth is the government seizing our wealth by taxing us yes okay so i guess we're in a socialist country right now we we are called a mixed economy. So not a socialist country. So you got your socialist on there, buddy. We are a mixed economy that applies certain socialist principles to capitalist markets. That's why we're not a capitalist country, nor we are a, you know. But it's called a mixed economy because it applies both.

And the argument often is the battle between the two and which direction we want to go. The left advocating for the socialist tilt which is increased taxes more and more and the free market side which includes some republicans and many libertarians to decrease taxes so i disagree with the argument that taxes are increasing taxes and having different types of taxes on different income earners or net worth people is communist or socialist i think it's like a misunderstanding of what socialist is socialist is when people um seize the means of production and like just to say countries have taxation i don't think it means there's phil before you jump in like for example

many wait can i please finish you made a point in the nordic countries with high taxes we don't i'm gonna turn it off because you made a point and then you tried rambling over it's called the gish gallop so that no one could challenge your incorrect statement. Which one? Go ahead. That is stock. The wealth Bezos owns is his equity and ownership of the company. And you're advocating for seizing his means of production. I said there should be a mechanism in which we have these high net worth individuals pay more in taxes. I say, let's see. Let's stop. Let's stop. You made a point. Now it will be addressed. you make your point okay give me the money you advocated for the imagined equity ownership wealth right not his income correct correct that is taking his

control of the company away i don't know how else to say this that jeff basel should be taxed differently i mean you could not accept that. We should move forward. To call it socialist is to suggest that. Let's slow down. You made a point. Here's what we do. You make a point, and then someone responds to it. You're gish galloping.

Do you know what that means? Yeah. It means you're saying a bunch of random things at once so no one can respond. Okay? Jeff Bezos should be taxed differently, particularly because he has massive wealth. His wealth is tied to his equity in Amazon. Correct. Right. Yes. You want to take that equity from him. In some form, be it 1% or 10%. I don't know. There should be a mechanism. Yes. For these high net worth individuals where

pay more in taxes. Okay. Well. I am not an accounting professional. So whether that be they have to sell certain amount of taxes or what have you, I'm sure Jeff Bezos has many... I will address it. So you are saying the government should create a mechanism by which Jeff Bezos

must relinquish control of his company. Right? No, no, no. Do you know not his company no no you know what equity is no no yes but i'm not saying that but now you're gish galloping no i'm not something specific let's get back to the point you know what i don't think he should have to sell equity of his amazon company he could figure out ways of paying taxes in a different form so like on the end i'm not an on his net worth which is which is his equity and. Which is tied up in Amazon stock, in part. And the stock is his ownership of the company.

Okay, let's slow down. I'm going to give a few basic points, everybody. Yes, sir. The stocks, the shares you hold in a company represent your equity, stake, and ownership of the company. Tim Pool owns 100% of TimCast Media. The company does have shares. It's a private company, and i hold all of them if the government said those shares have a value based on the revenue of the company you have to pay taxes on those shares that would force me to relinquish control of this company

in some direction that is called the government seizing ownership of the company i i don't agree with the specific mechanism that you're oh all right right, well, there you go. You just think I'm wrong. I think Jeff Bezos doesn't pay enough in taxes, and just like similarly the top 100 net worth individuals in our country. No, I'm not, and that's not the definition of socialism at all. It doesn't matter what you think you are. You're advocating for the government to seize the ownership of Jeff Bezos. No, I'm not, and you don't under—

No, I'm not, and how you're defining it of what I'm saying is a mischaracterization. Okay, so let's slow down. Jeff Bezos made $2 million in cash and you think he's not paying enough based on that $2 million? Should he pay a million dollars of it? I think based off, I feel like I'm reiterating myself when we're just going in circles, Tim, frankly. I think there's an issue with how we tax high net worth into the highest. What does that mean? I don't know how else to make it more clear. The way we tax... Tax what? His income? High net worth individuals.

It goes beyond their income because high net worth individuals don't have an extremely high income. They have their money in assets. Eli, I have a question for you. If you didn't eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt? It depends. Some days I don't have breakfast and I'm not feeling hungry after. Do you not understand the concept of taxing means a requirement for an individual to pay cash? But then you say net worth, which is imaginary low incomes as a workaround for our laws in our country got it now pause now if their income is low how do they pay a tax we need to

find a mechanism in which we find a way to tax people who are the highest net worth individuals so purposefully i'm trying i'm trying okay slow down okay. Okay. Slow down. Okay. Purposeful. Tax what? Their net worth? We need to find a mechanism in which to tax them differently. What? A part of their value. A part of their net worth. Yes. Okay.

Jeff Bezos' net worth, just hold on, is his ownership stake in Amazon. That's it. Sure. So if someone said- Well, not that's it, but sure. That's majority of his wealth. Almost all of it. Sure. He if someone said... Well, not that's it, but sure. He has more than just Amazon. That's the majority of his wealth, almost all of it. Sure, he keeps it locked up in that. Taxing would require him to pay cash, which he does not have, for owning part of Amazon.

Yes. So how will he acquire the cash? We need to figure out a mechanism. Answer the question. I'm not an accountant, but here's the issue. If you just lock up all your money in stock, and you are a highly... Okay, stop, stop, stop.

No, no, no. You're not making one. You're... Listen. What I'm doing... You're missing the point on purpose, Tim. You're not understanding... Elad, Elad.

You're purposefully missing the point. What I am doing is called the Socratic method, where I'm asking you questions to dissect what your argument is. You're going in circles. I am trying to lay out the logical base points of what you are trying to claim so we can understand what you're saying. Jeff Bezos hypothetically makes he is reported he makes a million dollar salary with a million dollar bonus. That's the official reporting. He has estimated one hundred and seventy something

billion in his equity control of Amazon. This is stock he's not legally allowed to sell based on contractual obligations. You want to sell his stock, but when he not legally allowed to sell based on contractual obligations. You want to sell his stock, but when he's legally allowed to, based on performance issues, meaning the stock reaches a certain value, he can sell a certain amount. That's when he can cash out some of his equity. What you have explained to us is that you want to tax Bezos on what's called unrealized gains. That is, Bezos owns a portion of his company and that portion of ownership equals an imaginary value. Because that imaginary value is very high, he should have to find a way to acquire cash to pay the government. The only means by which that could be accomplished would

be if he sold equity stake in his company. That would mean the government put a requirement for him to relinquish a degree of control of his company. Right? It doesn't have to be. And I'll explain to you why. Because certain stocks have more voting rights than other stocks. So they don't have to make him relinquish specifically stocks that have voting rights in his company. So there are ways around this. And that's why I'm saying there needs to be a mechanism. My larger point here is that there are ultra wealthy people in our country who do not pay any reasonable, understandable share of tax, even compared to their fellow one percenters. So the one percent of the one percent ends up paying less than the other 99 percent of that one percent. So now here's the larger point here.

So let me address that. The issue with how these people are taxed needs to change is my point. OK, so you are you are advocating for a tax on unrealized gains in any case in some way we don't know how yet yeah but somebody who generates imaginary wealth should have to pay the government based on the perception of that wealth for the ultra wealthy once you pass a certain threshold in our country yeah so even though they have no money yes so like if you bought a- You think Jeff Bezos has no money?

Yes. Okay. That's not what I said. I think his cash reserves are relatively low relative to his net worth. That's the point. So for example- So there's no way for Jeff Bezos to pay more taxes. I guess he's just going to have to stay what he's paying.

No, there is. We could seize his equity. No, we shouldn't do that. That would make us communists. Jeff Bezos has to be able to pay as much taxes as, you know, people who earn millions of dollars. So if someone bought a Spider-Man comic for a dollar and then 20 years later it was worth $10 million because it was a rare Spider-Man comic and it was graded 10, sealed in a box, they now have an imaginary net worth of $10 million. Should we tax them for having that Spider-Man comic?

No. That's a real question. No, no. But I feel like these aren't apples to apples comparisons. I'm trying to talk to you about special cases where we are talking about the modern day robber and bearers of our country. That's why I'm robber baron. Yeah.

All these people. Okay, dude, dude. You're a socialist. No, I'm not. Robber baron? Kyle Kalinske over here. Taxing equity in companies? I'm not saying Robber baron? Kyle Kalinske over here. Taxing equity in companies? I'm not saying we...

You would get along... I think there's issues with... He's not a neocancer. He's a new lib. There's issues with how we tax these guys, and I think it's actually abundantly clear. And I think these arguments... That's an emotional argument.

What's an emotional argument? That it's abundantly clear. No, they pay... The top 100 net worth individuals in our country pay less than people who earn millions of dollars a year yes yes they do because of their tax work no no they don't you lied you have literally no idea what you're talking about jeff bezos used to take a small 100k salary he still takes a million dollars a year his salary that's reported uh doesn't it not work in Amazon? Well, maybe.

When he was working as CEO, he was only taking $86,000 and he was only paying an income tax on that. And? And if you don't see an issue, Phil, I think it's abundantly clear that somebody with the net worth of Jeff Bezos should be paying more than just his income tax on $80,000 a year. Why?

Because he's one of the richest people in our country. No, that is why. Guys, guys, you made a statement of identity, not an argument as to why he should be taxed. Because I believe in a progressive tax rate. Why should people be that is a statement that is not an argument as to why someone should be taxed. Let me let me tell you. Let me tell you an argument. OK, The progressive tax argument is that the wealthier you are, the less money you require for standard living and the more money you have for capital investment. The reason we tax you at a progressive rate is because you require less money the more money you have. That is the progressive argument.

Because a person who makes $80,000 a year can cover their basics. A person who makes $500,000 covers their basics and has extra money for influence power. That is a socialist concept. And I'm not telling you that. I'm saying that is literally one, the progressive tax bracket. I am asking you for what mechanical reason of law and society should wealthy people be taxed? What mechanical reason yes law why would a government institute a mechanical policy codified in law because i can give you reasons you can't murder

people because there's two reasons so why should they fundraise taxes why should why should wealthier people pay more taxes um because it's an easier strain on them as it is to people who earn less. You're repeating what I just said. And people who earn, again, like if you're in the bottom 50% of the tax bracket, you pay almost none of the actual tax revenue. Those people shouldn't be paying income taxes at all. You agree with the socialist precept I just presented. I don't think it's a socialist precept.

I think higher and progressive taxes and higher taxes does not make one socialist. That's just not what socialists. I just explained to you not that you were a socialist, but the socialist argument is we should tax the wealthy because they have access to wealth and power more than the working class. You then reiterate a liberal argument, not a socialist argument. A socialist argument is that we should seize the means of production. That's not a liberal argument. That's the socialist make a progressive tax rate. No, no, no. Liberals say that liberals in the modern colloquial context have socialist tendencies in the mixed economics of the United States. One could make the argument we should tax the wealthy,

not just because they are wealthy, but because we want to fund government programs or because we want to remove money from the market that's inflationary due to mass spending or money creation of the U.S. government. Those are mechanical reasons to tax people. One could argue like Bloomberg, we should tax the poor because poor people make bad decisions. And if we take their means of purchasing from them, we can determine through government programs what they should be able to receive. That's a mechanical argument. I explained to you that the socialist precept was that wealthy people do not need that much money beyond. And after they've already met their needs, which is to each according to their needs from each according to their capabilities,

the extra money levies undue influence. So we prescribe a higher tax rate. Hence, the United States is called a mixed economy which has some social intent tendencies and market uh economies you then said that right back to me because it's easier for the rich than it is for the poor which is the socialist present i wasn't calling you a socialist but you did adopt that argument i disagree that it's a socialist precept but but it literally is from each according to their capabilities to each according to their needs. That's a slogan. That's not like... It's an ethos, simply put, that explains the Marxist ideology of people should not get more than they need, and they should only do what they can.

Therefore, the ultra-wealthy can be taxed at a higher rate for the purpose of simply, it's more than they need. So it's not than they need. So it's not abject socialism. There are various economies that adopt socialist practices and laissez-faire practices. The United States is a mixed economy in that it is somewhat socialist and somewhat not. And we have a progressive tax rate now. That's right. And that is a socialist construct. But we're not. We're a mixed economy. We are a mixed economy. OK, so one could argue that we are becoming socialists, as they often do. Some could argue that we are becoming more laissez faire, likely under Donald Trump.

We're moving in that direction, which means you end government programs, you end government subsidies, you stop taking from one group to give to another. The United States is a mixed economy, meaning it's about it's I think the average is that around 45 percent of all income is taxed. So of all tax brackets, if you are a regular working class person through property tax, through income tax, through sales tax, excise tax, service tax, et cetera, road tax, gas tax, you're paying about 45 percent of your income in taxes. So that's that's why some argue we're not a totally socialist nation or we don't lean socialist because we actually lean slightly less because we're taxing at less than half of your income rate. Simply put, taxing the wealthy for the sake of it because they have too much.

That is the socialist argument. OK, OK. All right. Well, we're going to go to the members only call in show. I can grab some more super chats, but, bro be honest elad literally i mean i mean this sincerely just can you go rapid fire with a handful real quick literally every single one is explaining how you don't understand taxes okay law or or business uh some of them are a bit brutal anybody agree mr cooper says a lot is absolutely no idea what he's talking about he's a lol cow and yes we are a socialist country laissezaissez faire economics and economic regimentation. Socialism are mutually exclusive ideas. Hard to argue with. We're a socialist country.

Convincing reality says laws have to be applied equally. Okay. Lurch says a lot never change. Crazy, cringe and dumb. No, stay in the echo chamber. Jason Dixon says, for the love of God, shut up. Shut the hell up, Elad. Move on, Tim. The viewership is dropping. Nobody wants to hear you educate him. We are over it.

Well, with all due respect, I do actively monitor viewership during the show, and it is comparable to any other time. And I do know that a lot of people don't like when we get into arguments like that, although many do. And I think it's important to have those conversations. And that's why we have like this is why we have eclectic voices on the show, because there are a lot of people who have never heard the argument articulated as to why these taxes should or should not exist or how they function. Yeah, that is to say, there are a lot of people out there who genuinely believe that Bezos pays less taxes than the average American, which is a fact statement that is false. There's a lot of people who believe the wealthy aren't paying their quote unquote

fair share, which is an opinion, emotional argument. Fair share is a meaningless nonsense term. It doesn't mean anything. What is fair share? I don't know. The fact is that the top one percent pay around half of all income taxes or more in this country and the lower lowest income earners pay almost none in order to be a net in a net taxpayer in this country. I think you have to make around like one hundred fifty to two hundred thousand dollars a year. So these things are important to understand because we have a country that heavily, heavily subsidizes people in a variety of ways from health care benefits to the fire department, police. All of these things are paid for that the average person isn't actually paying back.

So when people call for the death of billionaires like Bill Burr, they're basically saying, destroy the mechanism by which we actually fund the tax base. And that would be catastrophic for the structures of this government. There are always going to be the top one, the top point one percent of human beings. No matter what laws you make, no matter what you do, they will always find the means to maximize their potential, to maximize control, either because they're naturally charismatic. They have social currency or hard currency. AOC considers herself to be poor. She says, I don't make that much money.

But she is actually in the full metrics of social economics, one of the wealthiest people in the world, in that with her 10 million followers on X, she could destroy economies like she did in New York City with Amazon. She was able to snap her fingers and rip $30 billion from New York. She may not have cash, but her social currency is more powerful than anything Bezos can do, or arguably as powerful. We're going to go to that members-only show, my friends,

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