Timcast IRL - Trump Just NUKED Woke Universities From Orbit With New Policies w/ Ed Martin
Episode Date: September 29, 2026On this episode Tim & the crew are joined by Ed Martin to discuss Trump declaring war on woke colleges, scrapping Title IX rules A Data Guru predicting a massive blue wave for the 2026 midterms Jagua...rs QB Trevor Lawrence under fire for a bizarre kneel down A Republican roasted for new ad demonizing white Gen Z gamers Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) | @TimcastTateBrown (YT) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) | @trashhouserecords (YT) https://carterbanks.komi.io Guest: Ed Martin @EagleEdMartin (X) Edward R. Martin Jr. is a lawyer and conservative political figure who served as interim U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., and later as U.S. pardon attorney and director of the Justice Department's Weaponization Working Group. His DOJ service ended in 2026.
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Donald Trump has just stripped Title IX protections from LGBTQ students.
This is through the Education Department.
So theoretically, it should extend basically to all public schooling.
This means that identity is no longer protected under the Civil Rights Act based on this new rule.
And it's not the only one.
A couple of months ago, a story broke.
And we were actually surprised to find we didn't see it until today.
In fact, it seems to be the case.
Many people didn't.
But the Trump administration has effectively banned what they're describing as worthless student degrees.
This is going to destroy the woke university system.
Let me explain.
They are saying if your degree doesn't make enough money, if the jobs you can get from it, don't make enough money.
You can't get a loan for it.
This means every single woke, stupid, feminist, interpretive, dance politics, sociology, nonsense is not going to be eligible.
for loans and the universities will not have any funding for them. The government subsidy of woke
ended with this rule. Now we'll see exactly where it goes. Of course, with the midterms coming up,
the latest polling is not very good for Republicans. And people are wondering if the Republicans
are just resigned to defeat. That may be the case. But Trump is pulling out his secret weapon
himself and culture war issues. Now, of course, liberal media is ragging on him saying it's a mistake. He
shouldn't do it. He's not popular enough. Trump is putting this election on himself, and Republicans
are shifting the conversation from economics into culture war issues where they know they can see benefits.
Despite all that, however, polls are not particularly good. And then my friends, a story that's
going viral because it's fun. You know, seven years ago, NASA ran a simulation, a prediction,
that there was an asteroid that had a 1% chance of striking the Earth in April of 20,
27. Now the story's coming back up because, of course, we're only a few months away. And, you know,
nothing's going to happen because nothing ever happens, right? A meteor strike of all things.
But people like to, I don't know why, I guess, but you get it. People like to imagine these things
are possible or likely going to happen. And they're just not. And, you know, is what it is.
But we also got to talk about Trevor Lawrence. I don't know if you guys saw this. I'm not a football guy.
and my entire Instagram feed is loaded with people.
I'm seeing all these viral videos where they're claiming Trevor Lawrence took a knee,
all right, in this football game at the one yard lawn with about nine minutes left in the game.
It makes no sense.
And then he made a comment about he was doing it for the Fantasy League fans and people are screaming.
The idea now is that Homeboy knew he was affecting the state of the game to benefit gamblers,
potentially himself, and this is all rigged.
seen some people post he should be criminally charged or investigated for taking a knee at this
point. His argument, of course, he came on and said, oh, he's trying to run the clock down.
Run the clock down at nine minutes? This seems very strange. And with all the sports gambling and
weird poker gambling, you know, mafia stuff we've heard over the past year or so, there's a lot of
people who are just like, look, it happens. And we know they're doing it. That being said, you have to be
pretty stupid to try and do that now. So we're going to talk about that and everything else.
joining us tonight to talk about that.
And so much more is Ed Martin.
Good to be with you, Tim.
Thank you.
That's a lot to cover.
That's a range.
I don't know where to start.
I'm worried about the asteroid right now.
I mean, that's the most fun story.
It makes everything go away.
Yeah, that's right.
It's easier.
But you actually have experience as it relates to some of the sports spending stuff, too.
Yeah, you know, I was just telling the story.
I met the guy, Jonte Porter, who was from Missouri, from Missouri, and he was jammed on
this gambling.
And he came in.
I met with him.
We were talking about the issue.
And it is extraordinary.
And here's the thing.
His description to me was, it's everywhere.
In other words, in the NBA, these guys are all gambling in all kinds of ways.
And then so then you just say to yourself, okay, are they just gambling on things that they care about?
Or are they gambling on stuff that suddenly somebody can have an impact?
Because some of those bets, as you know, are like how many minutes you'll play in a quarter of an NBA game.
Yeah.
So if you go in, and this is what he admitted to, you go into a quarter.
you go into a quarter and you immediately say,
out my back hurts and they take you out.
You've now controlled what you did in that quarter,
which somebody's betting on.
And you've got some friend or third party who's like,
don't play more than it's up on a minute.
And in the third quarter play,
you know, your performance has to be below three points.
So you get into my hamstring hurts and you're out.
So I, and look, you say that and you say,
oh, well, the NBA, what those guys like?
Now realize that the budget for these football,
college football teams are 30 or 40 or million dollars.
There's 18-year-old kids with a million dollars in their pocket.
And you don't think that they're gambling.
So it's a wild world.
And I still don't understand.
You played the clip.
Trevor Lawrence, it's such a weird way to stop.
Something is going on in his head that we don't know yet.
It has to be.
I saw one theory.
They said that he was supposed to get tackled because that was the script.
But because the guy missed, he took a knee instead.
Like, what do I do?
But we'll get into it.
Hey, what are you currently working on?
What were you doing before?
Where are you at now?
Well, so I was in the Trump administration from the day one.
In fact, it's a great story I love to tell.
I was supposed to be chief of staff at OMB.
And I got a phone call on Saturday night before Trump was sorn in on Monday.
And I was told, can you come down to the old Trump hotel?
So I've hired everybody for OMB.
I worked with the Doge guys because they were sort of on the edges of OMB.
And Russ Vote is the OMB chair, the director.
And I go down on Sunday morning, the day before Trump's sworn in.
I go around the corner and sitting at a table is Sergio Gore and Charlie Kirk.
And they say, hey, you once said you wanted to be the U.S. attorney in D.C.
That guy that was supposed to take that job, didn't take it.
And the president-elect wants someone to do that job.
Would you switch over?
And I said, well, I got to call Russ and make sure he's okay with it.
Russ is going to say whatever the president wants.
So I switched over that.
And the next day, we didn't know this.
The next day, the president pardoned all the January 6ers, right?
I had been hoping for that, but I didn't think actually it was going to happen.
So anyways, off to the races.
So for four months, I was a U.S. attorney in D.C., which was an unbelievable job, tons of power, tons of opportunity to do good.
I was taking, and we were talking earlier, or I heard Crowder talking about DEI.
I took on Georgetown law when they were still doing DEI stuff, publicly, Schum, or all kinds of things.
And then for four months I did that, then I got blocked by Tom Tillis, which I could tell you the story of the last meeting with Tom Tillis,
haunts me to this day, haunting, actually, legit haunting.
I could tell later or whatever.
And then I was moved over because I wasn't confirmed the president was not going to tolerate that.
So he made me pardon attorney and the associate deputy attorney general for the weaponization group.
So all of a sudden I got this huge docket, but not a lot of automatic power.
Both of those jobs are kind of like dig into it and then make an argument to other people about prosecuting weaponization or pardoning.
That's the president's prerogative.
But very interesting.
and I did a lot of work for the president and for what his priorities were.
And it was great.
But I left about a month ago.
I'm out on my own.
I'm working with Russ Votes Old Shop, the Center for Renewing America.
I'm also practicing law, which I'm enjoying.
I'm a lawyer.
But I'm getting ready.
We were talking offline.
I was on a media blackout.
The DOJ doesn't really value guys and gals out there ripping in the media.
So I was really quiet and it made me crazy after a while because this is too important.
to put, to make clear what's at stake and what's going on.
And look, we have not done enough in DOJ, fine, but we've done a hell of a lot.
And I want to talk about that.
And one big thing we can talk about, too, is Second Amendment stuff, which we made progress.
We made progress like nobody's done it in history.
And Trump did it.
And Todd Blanche greenlighted everything I was trying to do and we did it.
So it's good to be out to be in the fight a little differently.
And we've got a lot to fight about.
So it's important.
We definitely got against all of it.
So thanks for hanging out. It's going to be fun. We got the boys.
Yeah, what's going on? Tate Brown, you're holding it down. We've got the eagle here.
I'm super excited. He's one of the best. One of the best. We got a good show, Phil.
I'm excited. I'm excited. It's going to be good. Good to see you, Carter.
Hey, you too, Phil. And, yeah, let's get into it. We got a lot of talking about.
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We've got this from the Hill. Education Department formally rescinds Title IX protections for
LGBTQ students. The Education Department announced Monday it has formally rescinded the Biden-era
Title IX interpretation that gave sex-based discrimination protections to students based on their
orientation and gender identity.
schools must now go back to the code as it was held under the previous Trump administration in 2020, which they say will protect women's sports.
Quote, thanks to today's action, the published Title IX regulation faithfully reflect court orders and congressional intent.
Reducing confusion for parents, students, and educational institutions, we will continue to relentlessly champion equal opportunity for all Americans and hold accountable any school or college that violates the rights and privacy or athletic opportunities for our.
our women and girls, education secretary Linda McMahon said.
Now, we do have another story that actually broke in July and for some reason was just
getting picked up today.
In fact, I don't even think we noticed it.
Actually, vaguely remember it.
Trump is banning federal student loans for worthless college degrees.
These two stories, my friends, this is Trump launching a nuclear bomb in the culture war
against the hive of scum and villainy that is woke universities.
explain how massive this story is, both of these stories. You've got tons of worthless humanities
degrees, feminist interpretive dance. I'm kidding, but you get the point. They will not have funding
for these anymore. Got a professor who wants to teach critical race theory. Unfortunately,
you can't get a job in critical race theory, so you can't get alone for it. So the universities
won't have any funding for it. Thus, these classes will start to disappear.
people will stop attending them, and the universities will start to revert back from whence they came.
Now, this is exactly what we've been asking for for a long time.
This is the kind of culture war victory that I've demanded, and they expect it, and I'm glad to see it.
Now, the economy is not doing too great.
Gas is really expensive.
A war is on.
I don't know how much this moves the needle, but I'm going to give praise what praises do, because this is what I voted for.
Right now, you've got a lot of prominent conservative personalities saying, yes, things aren't going great.
Yes, the Republicans haven't utilized the power they could, but the culture war, victories we've gotten have been fantastic.
And Democrats, when they get in, are going to go nuclear in the opposite direction.
So I'm super excited for this.
This is tremendous news.
I'm curious what the panel thinks.
Well, I mean, to your point about should the Democrats, you know, get power, whether they get the office of the president in 28 or not, they're going to do everything they can to stymie.
the administration. Now, obviously, this is executive order stuff. This is stuff that Trump's going to, has been, you know, the largest portion of his successes have been through executive order. And he's actually done a lot of stuff. I know there's a lot of people that are unhappy with him, unhappy with some of the policies that he's, he's actually gone through with. But the majority of things that people were looking for that actually have been achieved. It's all executive order and all in the bureaucracy. So, I mean, I would love to see more.
Obviously, this is a good thing.
Like Tim said, the humanities departments are doomed now.
But, yeah, just more of this.
But, you know, again, I hate to be back to Crowder.
We were watching Crowder a while ago, and he's talking,
and the Harvard Law School Dean was, a professor was complaining
that the government was cutting off without due process,
the money that they were getting from,
the government was giving to Harvard.
And my thing is, like, why do we have a system
where we've created this massive payments,
scam. It's just like the welfare programs. It's just like other things where these student loans are
just propping up schools that make up degrees. And as you said, these two stories come together,
Tim, because Title IX was created in 1972. And it was in the era where they were trying to say,
gives women some protection in higher ed, in sports, in other opportunities. And it became the vehicle.
And I know this intimately because I worked with Phyllis Schlafly, the late Phyllis Schlafly, who fought
against the ERA.
title nine became the way that the camel under the the camel's nose under the tent because they went in and they used it every time they wanted to the left to do all this gods of crazy stuff and it culminated with this trend that the gender uh surgery and gender affirming and all this the politically woke stuff but it's been going on for a very long time and and and the point here is the pendulum needs to not just stop some of this stuff it needs to swing back in my opinion and back harder than we've ever seen uh i think this is
is progress. And as you put them together, Tim, they work as a way to say, hey, we got to stop
these universities. But man, there's a lot of other aspects of these laws that are dragging
down our entire culture, not only higher ed. Well, yeah, I mean, Title IX needs to go because
I went to a big East school, and I was the reason we couldn't have a football team.
Exactly. What, really? Yeah, we had like women's field hoc. It was like those random sports
from me because they couldn't have football. No, no. Here's what you had to do. Every male
scholarship has to be paired with a female. So you have a
100 male scholarships for football, then you got to have a swim team, a lacrosse team, girls, girls, girls. That's
why across the country, they've shut down wrestling programs. Remember this? They shut down wrestling
programs because they couldn't afford 25 more guys because they had to do girls scholarships. And
you're looking around going, how many women scholarships? Because you remember, you can have a soccer
team, men's and women are same size, but nothing's like a football team in terms of scholarships.
And then they went, and then they went crazy with the law and said every dollar has to match, not just
scholarships. So if you have a wait room for the men, it has to be matched by the size of the
wait room for the women. This is fascinating because Charlie Kirk had spoken out against the Civil
Rights Act, highlighting specifically these things, that the intention is good, but the output
was bad. And then, of course, the left manipulates the con, they lie about the context as to what
he was saying and say he wanted to get rid of civil rights. What he was saying was, we all agree
it was bad that people were being discriminated against, like they wanted to go to a grocery
store, they wanted to do the movies. But the idea now, as you're put, you guys are pointing out,
that you can't have a men's football team because women don't want to play football.
Now, this makes no sense.
So I remember there was a lawsuit in the UC system.
There was a, there was like a women's only computer club.
Someone found the lawsuit saying that violates Title IX.
That would be Title IX.
And they lost the suit.
The courts ruled that because there was a computer program available to men,
they could do a women's only.
Right.
So you simultaneously say,
we can't do regular football
because there's no women on it.
Even if it's open to women,
there's got to be a women's team
on the other side,
but then women can have
a woman-only computer club
as long as there's a general computer club
for men.
They're playing it both ways in the courts.
Right.
We can't function.
Exactly.
But look, this is the old,
I don't know if you guys are a fan
of Eric Hoffer,
the Hoffer's line that every great
cause begins as a movement
becomes a business and degenerates into a racket.
We're in the racket stage.
The racket stage is you take Title IX, 1972, and you say,
hey, we got to do better at protecting women.
Oh, okay, I don't know, maybe not a bad idea.
Then it became a business where people made money off of that.
And now it's a racket, where they just come up with a pretext,
and they do things like gender affirmation and all these other things.
And by the way, I thought you were going to say something else.
You know, I thought nobody was supposed to have a gender.
You were supposed to just say what you want.
So what does it matter?
just go fluid and it shouldn't be a problem.
But these kinds of changes to your point about Trump,
Trump does these things consistently across his.
It's a kind of worldview thing that is very different.
Most Republicans don't do this because, you know,
Laura Bush was not going to let George W. Bush do that
because she played softball growing up.
I don't know.
I'm just making it up.
But, you know, that's the way, you know,
John McCain was not going to do it because his wife was really good at basketball
when she was a kid and we don't want to change the rules.
That's the problem.
with the Republicans in power, and Trump keeps doing this stuff.
Yeah, well, and the type, you know, people, it's with the Breitbart quote, you know, politics is downstream from culture.
But there's some instances where culture is downstream from politics, and this is one of them, where Title IX kind of culturally institutionalized this idea of gender parity.
Like, okay, women should be able to do exactly what a man can do.
Like evidence for this in sports would be U.S. soccer, right?
The U.S. Soccer Federation that is in charge of the men's team and the women's team.
And the women's team said everything to be equal, the patron.
checks, et cetera. This applied to the coach. So the men's team now is an opening for their,
for their coaching slot. And there's a really world class coach,
Maricio Pocitino. And he's like, I want to coach your team. Problem, the max salary they
could offer was like a drop in the bucket compared to what he wanted because they had to match
what the women's coach was being paid, which is just never going to happen. The men's
World Cup generates, you know, it's probably to the, you know, to the pie or something.
Like the order of money the men's World Cup makes is, you know, completely dwarfs to
Women's World Cup. So instead, like the U.S. soccer had to go and knock on a bunch of billionaires'
doors and say, just write this off, donate to our program, we'll get a good men's coach.
It's like institutionalized, even in an organization like U.S. soccer, which has no obligations
under Title IX to do so, they are now basically forced to do so because of this cultural
mindset that is because of Title IX. Did you guys see, we talked about it last week,
Dressmaker, the video game? Yeah. So they spend all this money, these feminists get in these
game studios, and they're like, okay, so we're making a one.
World War One Battlefield game.
We want women to play video games, so we're going to make the main character a purple-haired
female amputee, and everyone hated it because women don't want to go to World War I.
And somebody made a dressmaker simulator where all you do is make dresses, and then your
customers give you one to five stars, and women are drooling over it.
They love it.
Men and women are completely different.
And now we've built this system where we are trying to get women to do things they don't want to do and people don't want to watch.
I bring this up because there are things that people generally men and women like about men.
They want to see the most brutish of dudes do the most brutish of physical feats.
That's what they want to see.
Maybe it's boxing.
They want to see a dude bust another dude up, leave them bloody.
And then they're both standing there covered in blood and sweat.
everyone loves UFC. And you know what? Women's fighting. Not so bad. People like that too, but
you know, eh. Let me tell you about UFC. The guys that you see. Do you ever see like a regular guy
walking around holding up round sign? What about a big titty, beautiful woman? The reason why is
men and women like these things. Women do. They make these movies. Women don't want to see a movie
where a woman is a superhero. They want to see a movie where a woman is the subject of desire
from the greatest man. So we had things that women could do that people really enjoyed watching
and men could do. And they're trying to invert it for some reason in some weird experiment that
doesn't work. It just doesn't work. Okay. Women, James Bond, why did men and women love to go see
it? Because men wanted to be him and women wanted to be with him. The male fantasy is that you're the
guy smoking the cigar and you flick it into the, you know, the gasoline vapors or whatever. And the bad
guy goes, I'll get you. And you stop the villain from destroying the world. And the female power
fantasy was that the guy that everybody loved said, you're my choice. And she loved that. And now they're
doing whatever all this nonsense is. But you know what? Stop, stop blathering on about it. Trump,
the administration has nuked the hive, the root system.
If this sticks and we win, if we hold for a few years, we can cleanse our universities of this social contagion.
Yeah, I don't have a lot of faith that it's going to hold for a few years because, again, I think that anything that Donald Trump does through executive action, the next president could undo if they were a Democrat.
I mean, I would love to see, you know, a JD Vance or a Marco Rubio or some other unnamed person that's a Republican.
conservative, whatever you want to call them, sit in the Oval Office again, whether that
happens or not is going to have a, you know, is going to really be the key as to whether or not
these policies can stick around long enough to have serious impact, right? Because that's
really what we're trying to do, or what he's trying to do here. He's trying to roll back,
not just an administration or two. He's trying to roll back, you know, 60 years of progressive
policy because whether or not people want to admit it, George Bush had a lot of progressive
policies. Even Ronald Reagan had some policies that were, you know, considered, I mean, he gave
Amnesty. Nixon too. Yeah, Nixon as well. So, I mean, you're talking about decades and decades and
decades of policies that were moving the country to the left. And Donald Trump is the first
president that, you know, in the past 70 years or 80 years, that is actually trying to move the
needle back, not just trying to say, hold up there Democrats or stop and do what the Democrats
would do, but slower. He's actually trying to move it back. And there's a lot of people that are
going to be giving me crap about saying this. But it's true. He's the only president that's ever
significantly decreased the number of bureaucrats in D.C. And that actually did happen as much
as people don't want to admit it or don't want to say that he did. They don't want to give him credit
because they're mad about this issue or that issue. Most of the time, they tell.
tend to be mad about the Iran war, but he's the only president that's actually started to move
the needle back to the right. And if he had, you know, another, if he had a Congress that worked
with him, he'd be even more successful because this stuff could be codified into law as opposed
to just executive action. But, you know, one thing about what you said is so important is that
Trump does these things that affect money especially. Like USAID, the attack on USAID, took the money
off the table, it didn't take more than a month or two for people to have to adjust their life.
People getting six-figure salaries in the suburbs of D.C. complaining about it. Here's the thing
about this. If you pull back on these degrees and the loans for these silly degrees, it'll only
take six months for these schools to go belly up, to your point. You know, some of these small
schools that are running through mills of these really stupid coursework, courses, as Tim said earlier,
people are going to take those courses because they can see what's coming. That's going to
have a huge effect. This is one of the reason. They don't have the money for it. Right, they don't have
the money. But that's one of the reasons why, remember, why did we give the Chinese communists
all those visas for the students? 300,000 students. And the answer is because Harvard wanted the money.
And USC wanted the money. And they wanted cash payments from the Chinese communist parents
sending their kids to the schools. You take that money away and those schools, look, in every city
now, you have schools going under. St. Louis is where I'm from. Fond Bond University's
been around for 80 years, 100 years, totally out of business now. Because why? Because they had like
a hundred of their cash paying students were from Qatar or somewhere in the Middle East and they
stopped coming and the school had a hole in their budget they couldn't fill. And my point is,
good. The business model can't sustain this stuff if you're not teaching something that's
valuable for the kids. There's one more point that I want to make. This is something that I've been
harping on for a long time is all of the, all of the woke stuff that people complain about for the
past 15 years. It's all has, it all has its genesis in college. Yes. Right. There was a time where
people were saying, look, these kids with their silly ideas, they're going to get out into the
real world, and they're going to get smacked with reality, and then, you know, we don't have to
worry about it. But the fact of the matter is, they got out into the real world, and they changed
the culture at so many different, you know, companies, so many different big Fortune 500 companies,
they got into the HR departments and they started firing people for the smallest missteps
and hiring people that shared their worldview and they managed to seriously mess with the culture
of the United States.
And getting this kind of stuff out of schools actually can have really significant and dramatic
downstream effects.
You get, you know, I don't know, five, six, seven years of graduating classes that are not
indoctrinated with this kind of stuff.
because the humanities departments, the stuff that they learn, it doesn't stay in the humanities
departments, it starts infecting the rest of the college.
You know, it starts getting into even the hard sciences, and that's where you hear people,
you know, trying to say things like two plus two equals five and all kinds of crazy nonsense
that everyone knows is not true, but they have to say this kind of stuff because the entire
culture at the school is making a demand of it.
We need to, I always like to pull this stuff up because there's a lot of people that just
literally do not believe because they don't pay attention.
Popular mechanics literally wrote this not even one year ago
why some people think 2 plus 2 equals 5 and why they're right.
No, they're not.
They're not right.
This is a lie.
This is a cult.
If you think 2 plus 2 equals 5, you're an occult.
You are with dangerous, stupid people.
They are lying to you, okay?
Using an argument like they say, well, what if it's 2.3 plus 2.3?
Well, those both round down to two.
But when you add them together, you get 4.6, which rounds up to 5.
Therefore, no, now you're arguing 2.3 plus 2.3.
We define those in absolute terms.
This is the insanity you get that they are teaching your kids when they go to these schools.
So good on the Trump admin for saying enough.
This, I got to tell you, they're not teaching in China.
Nope.
A communist country is not telling their kids 2 plus 2 equals 5.
That's because this is a demoralization effort, and China already did that in the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution back in the 60s.
Yep. Well, the machine is trying to demoralize all of us because they were, it's, it's, it's, you know, it's not just China, but it's largely China.
The easiest way to explain what's going on, China is an adversary. They've already publicly stated the U.S. is in decline and not to resist that decline.
They are actively funding these things, pushing our politicians towards it.
They are manipulating our system.
Trump is resisting back.
As it mean, he's perfect.
We'll see where things go moving forward.
But that being said, let's jump to the important story in that case.
From Mediaite, the levy has been breached.
CNN Data Guru declares Blue Wave is coming over the wall.
The day that we've got so far shows Democrats are expected to sweep.
It's not so good for Trump and the geopolit.
the polls are all showing it. Trump's economic approval rating in 2026 at 37 percent. In 2018,
when Republicans lost the midterms, it was at 77%. I think it's fair to say most people don't care
about foreign policy and don't know much about the war with Iran, but it's after effects are hitting people
because gas is over four bucks and we're out in West Virginia. And diesel is 650. People can feel
the heat. The question is, what are the Republicans even doing about it?
Or have they resigned to defeat?
I don't know what they're doing about it.
I do know that there was a,
I saw someone had tweeted, I retweeted it about messaging.
And not that messaging is going to fix anything,
but the places that are borderline,
the, you know, the congresspeople that are borderline that could possibly win.
Like, they really do need to make sure that they have the messaging right.
but there's a lot of places where
I don't know that there's anything that's going to happen
that's going to fix anything unless
gas prices drop by like...
I'll rise in the fence of the grand old party.
I mean, look, and election cycles.
Gravity means that the apple falls from the tree down to the ground.
That's what happens.
It also means generally that the party in the president
in the White House loses in the midterm.
So gravity is gravity and it usually happens.
The problem with that right now,
first of all, whenever CNN is pushing something,
And I admit in this one, it's the economic numbers.
It's not quite the same as some of the push polls they push.
But it really is going to come down to about 26 seats, House seats, and three or four Senate seats.
And there are fundamentals to those things that you have to figure out.
And one of them is who's got money.
And the other one is who the candidates are.
So if you look at these races one by one across, places like down in Virginia, down in Norfolk,
that I think it's Virginia two, they started to do early voting.
and the report, I don't have this confirmed.
I'm just going to tell you how you look at these things,
is that the city, the urban votes, vote totals,
are lower than they expected.
In other words, there's not enthusiasm in that district for the Democrat,
which is what they need to overcome the things.
So Republicans have the headwinds,
and the Democrats seem to have something at their back,
but the problem is it's only in 26 races,
and the Republicans definitely have a lot more money.
And money can't buy you races,
but it can get close in a lot of them
and it can change a dynamic. Now, it's starting
to feel late, things are starting to break
but again, it's head to head and I
think right now, even the Democrats that
say it's going to be a wave are saying
they end up three, four, five up
in the House. No one thinks they can get
to 20. And by the way,
when Tala Rico in Texas
is on TV all weekend
long begging for debates,
if you've ever run a race
or been a candidate, you know
that you ask for debate,
when you're losing.
You desperately want any attention you can get.
You want to get out on the TVs.
And Tala Rico is not winning.
If he was winning, he would not want to do a debate
where Ken Paxton would say,
do you really believe X or Y, these crazy quotes
at Tala RICO's pastor said?
So, you know, the doom and gloom in places like Texas,
mostly I believe it's because the Republicans
that didn't want Paxton to win are weighing in.
So I think it's not great.
Gravity is gravity.
But I think it's better than people realize,
and I just don't believe any of this doom and gloom.
You know, Tim, we're going to get around to it.
The Second Amendment, the voters that are energized, they call them low propensity voters
for the Republicans, conservatives.
There's a bunch of them in categories that are fired up.
Now, will they get out to vote?
That's the hard part.
But I think it's going to be done.
You know, I...
Two-A voters are definitely very happy with what has been going on.
I'll say that.
I actually, I guess for us out here in West Virginia, particularly in our district, we don't,
we don't really need to.
We're definitely going to.
But Riley Moore is our guy.
He's going to win.
He's the best.
One of the best.
You know, I got to give a shout out to Riley.
He does not waste his time on social media nonsense.
He's not doing the AOC style media nonsense.
He's actually fairly aggressive on a lot of the issues that we all care about here in West Virginia.
And so we're incredibly lucky because not everybody can say that.
I'm just saying that because it's like,
we're good here.
You know, this is West Virginia.
But there's places in Texas, there's places in Florida, where we're seeing Democrats get an edge.
I'm going to go and say this.
I largely agree with you.
I think when it comes to the doom and gloom about whether or not Democrats are going to win
and beat the Republicans, I think it would be silly not to point out that people are,
Trump's lost a lot of people like libertarians.
That's a couple percentage points.
There's a lot of moderates.
They do not like the war stuff.
And a lot of people have shifted heavily.
because of Israel's involvement because of the start of the war, or I should say last year as well.
And I think these are all negative impacts.
The economy is typically the principal issue.
But that being said, we are in a new world.
And I think it's fair to say it's the economy, stupid.
We got to give a shout out to that old man that cratchy old Democrat, but it's fine.
It's fine.
It's a good quote.
However, right now, everybody lives in a niche political sphere.
So there are people who don't even know gas is $4 because the only thing they see when they go online is Israel.
There are people that go online and see nothing but unarmed black men being shot.
These people, the way they're voting is changing from the way it used to be.
Used to be primarily that people went to the gas station and said, okay, this is nuts.
But now that young people don't own cars, not that they're all voting anyway, but for young people,
they're largely persuaded by their social media algorithm.
So Trump's strategy has been, and not just Trump with Republicans, shift to culture war issues we can win on.
Like the trans debate, for instance.
Title IX stuff is why they're making these moves.
They want James Tellerico to have to answer for all the weird, insane things, he said in the past several years.
And they want to shift away from economics.
I'll give you guys the big secret.
If I make a video on YouTube talking economics, nobody wants to watch it.
That says something moving into November.
Again, we actually, we've had stories pulled up.
We've got some stories pulled up talking about housing.
And I talked earlier today, boomers on average have a net worth of $1.6 million.
It doesn't move the needle for the average person to talk about money this way.
People care about niche projects, interests, et cetera.
The Republicans are trying to re-center around that.
So I'm just saying this.
I do think Republicans are in a tight spot.
Historically, it makes a lot of sense.
But I also want to stress, I'm not going to sit here and just trust CNN when they come out every single day saying you can't lose, give up, you can't lose.
I mean, I'm sorry, you can't win.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Yeah, I mean, because there's been some interesting things like the Tala Rica race, I think a lot of that can be attributed to Paxson, you know, no offense to Paxon, kind of coming out the gates a little slow, right?
He hasn't fully kicked off like, you know, full-blown campaign.
There's been some reporting on this.
And I think a lot of this isn't so much to do with him as more, as you pointed out,
kind of the Senate Republicans weren't too happy about how that all went down.
Because there was some reporting that there's kind of this like Mexican standoff between the Trump admin
and the Senate Republicans like, okay, whose responsibility is it to fund the Paxton race?
So I think Texas probably comes back to the Republicans as the camp, I mean, again,
the hour's a little, you know, getting a little late here.
But as that kind of kicks in a full swing, because I'm getting tolerant.
Rico ads out here in Virginia. And I haven't been a registered voter in Texas in five years,
and I'm still getting hit for ads for Talarico here. There's like a profile on you at these
companies. Yeah. So the fact that, you know, he's dumping enough money to say anyone that has any
vague link to Texas push some ads his way, I think to your point does kind of illustrate the
situation he's in. I think the interesting race is Michigan especially, because Michigan is in this weird
situation where they have uniquely high gas prices for the region. Michigan has pretty expensive
fuel right now. And then additionally, they're having these trade issues. A lot of these voters
in the Detroit area are having these trade issues with Canada. This is what I've, again, I've seen
some people that are reporting from how voters are feeling on the ground. And a lot of them are like,
I don't know, we're like, we're kind of in the transit industry, all this traffic coming down
through Canada. They're not too happy about that. So it's kind of funny how Mike Rogers is in this
position where some of the things that Republicans aren't even necessarily responsible for. He's,
it's a referendum on his party, even though once again, like, you know, the Canada situation,
even the gas. The gas is uniquely high in Michigan,
do some Whitmer policies,
but he's having to answer for it because his party's holding the executive.
I want to grab this super chat from S. Budbutt, one of our members.
He says halt diesel exports, make diesel basically free till the midterms and ride the wave.
He's not wrong.
I mean, if Trump came out and said, we're halting the exports,
dropping the price significantly,
if Trump did any kind of tax release or rebate in the short term,
the promise of more after the fact, you can win the election, just like that.
And Democrats, when Trump offered that dividend, they're like he's trying to buy the vote.
Yeah, what do you think it is when Democrats offer free health care?
Yeah, exactly.
They're trying to buy the vote.
So if Trump's doing that, I'm like, sure, I'm not a fan of any of it, but don't act like you're all are innocent.
Well, you got to drop the diesel export ban on like October because it'll keep prices down for like a month.
But then once all the diesel producers realize they've lost a quarter of their market, they're going to slow down production.
So everyone's talking about if it's going to happen, it's going to happen in October.
But CNN's showing you the economic numbers and how bad it is.
What they're not showing you is New Hampshire is competitive, and it shouldn't be.
The Republicans should not be competitive.
Michigan is competitive, because why?
Because it shouldn't be.
It's a blue state now.
It's competitive because that guy's a lunatic.
The Muslim guy's a lunatic.
Susan Collins is winning up in Maine.
I don't really like her.
She's not conservative, whatever, but she's winning.
So you look around and you say, hold on a second,
as the one place where it's tough
is where they pull the Biden.
In North Carolina, they ran a white guy
and pretended that Cooper, who was a former
governor, is a good old guy.
He's like, oh, you know, Scranton Joe, what a good guy,
when he's going to vote for these
lunatic leftists, and Watley's
had a, Republicans, had a hard time getting his name
ID up to compete. And it's still
close. So the point is, the idea that,
especially at the Senate, that this is related to that,
what CNN's pushing is nonsense.
Now, you go down to the House, and it's hand-to-hand
combat. But you're made the great point. Riley Moore is safe and so are 406 seats. Totally safe.
You're never going to lose these seats. You can pretend you're going to, it's 25 or so, and now it's
who can go hand to hand. And here's what I'd say, Tim, you brought this up, the social issues,
Second Amendment voters, pro-life voters, religious people that go to church every Sunday,
people that believe that, look, people that watch Fox News, you can say what you want, and I have
not a fan in lots of ways, but they are conditioning old people that are watching all the time
that this is, you know, that the war is good and that, you know, healthcare is protected and you're
going to be okay. That's what they're telling them, whether it's true or not, and that means that
they're protecting that flank of the Republican coalition for voting. Well, I think this is what a lot of
people miss too is, you know, and this is coming from a Zoomer, you know, a right winger who
has a lot of, you know, criticisms of the Republican Party. Boomer's, that's the bread and butter,
know, like we can sit on Twitter and antagonize boomers all day long. And even if, you know,
every single accusation is true or whatever, that's besides the point. That is the secret
sauce for not just the Republican, but the Democrat Party, too. Like boomers, largest generation,
vote at exceptionally high rates, especially because now they're elderly. So the Republicans,
as long as they nail the messaging on Fox News, they're in the race. A lot of people don't want
to hear that a lot of people are like, well, you know, we should go punish the Republicans
at the ballot box. Twitter is like kind of a ghetto in many ways. Like, there's like 30,000
people that are using it on a daily basis.
You know, the boomers are ultimately going to be the one that decide the election.
And, yeah, Fox News, you go on Fox News, you know, the Iran Wars, you know, this had to happen.
It's the greatest thing since sliced red.
That's going to resonate with a lot of the base.
So just from purely like a political exercise, while it is certainly doom and gloom for
younger people, certainly doom and gloom online, the Republicans, they can still kind of go to
their fastball on this kind of thing.
And they're going to have probably better chance than we would.
would expect, you know, if you're purely consuming online political content.
We have another, a rumble rant from S. Bud, but he says Trump issues national emergency
on behalf of the American people and halt diesel exports by a high percentage to supplement
us with subsidized fuel. Yeah, winning strategy. Absolutely. I think that's a winning strategy.
The question is, would he actually do it? They've talked about it. But before we get into the
next time, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to say a couple of things. I, you know, I, you know,
I think periodically we've had super chats and Rumble Rants come in that were relevant to the conversation.
We've always held them off for anything to show.
I'm going to try and grab some of those for the real conversation.
That seems to be the obvious thing we've never done in six years of doing this show.
So if you guys are, because we'll go to the super chat portion.
I'll be like, I can't remember what this is a reference to.
It's like, why are we going back?
So I'll try and grab your chats and rants towards the end of each segment so that you guys can add to that conversation.
We'll carry on and then we'll move on.
And that makes a lot more sense.
And the other thing I just want to say real quick is very excited.
You know, Timcast, IRL being featured on the front page of YouTube right now in the live marquee.
Add your big old face is just right there.
But we're out watched by a cartoon peanut opening gun packs in CS2.
Oh, well, that's defensible.
I mean, you know, I like...
Can we do that too? Maybe we could start doing that.
It's show business.
Can we add an, and how do you do that?
We'll add an animated peanut to the show.
We'll be like, we got it.
And no, I think it's more so the gambling.
We need a cashew.
Maybe we can't be too on the nose.
You know what?
I figured it out.
What we got to do is we got to have keynote numbers going on behind all of us as we're talking.
Like a wheel.
It's not a bad idea.
And then people are like, I picked my numbers.
And then you see if you win because everything's becoming sports gambling, which brings us to our next story.
We got this from Fox News.
Trevor Lawrence fantasy owners are beside themselves after inexplicable decision in fourth quarter blowout.
my Instagram was blowing up over Trevor Lawrence taking a knee at one yard with nine minutes left in the game.
I'm not a football guy.
And I've got people being like, did you see this?
They're freaking out.
I'm like I've got friends who don't know news at all asking me if I saw this story.
We're going to talk about it.
Because what they're saying is this dude took the knee intentionally so that he could control the outcome for the purpose of sports betting because it's all rigged.
I've seen videos on Instagram where they're like this guy should be criminally investigated and prosecuted.
There's rumors that Fanatics is issuing refunds over certain wagers.
Let me show you this video.
This is Brick Center.
What is Trevor Lawrence doing?
This has to be gambling.
Watch this clip.
Run, pass, protection, all of it has been able to play a pretty dominant game against this group.
Designed run for Lawrence.
Lawrence breaking tackles.
Eight minutes and 48 seconds.
Listen to the commentators.
Eight minutes.
Just get yourself a touchdown, Spiro.
It's not, we're not inside.
Come on.
What are you doing?
Maybe a little too much.
Maybe a little too much.
I don't know how we got out of this.
Again, they, I mean, this is.
He wasn't supposed to.
That's what people are saying.
I think that's Milton Williams had a chance at him.
Hackish.
So look at this.
This is nuts.
Okay.
they even say, how did he get out of this?
He breaks through, is able to run forward, and then takes a knee.
So, of course, his response was, I was trying to run out the clock.
Tons of people were like, with nine minutes left?
What clock are you running out?
I've seen a bunch of wild theories.
One, I've seen a lot of people saying that he's got a direct stake in the game and
taking this because if he bet himself, he bet against himself scoring a touchdown,
presuming he wouldn't score one,
getting the opportunity to get one.
He's like, uh-oh.
Other conspiracy theories are that they're all in on it.
And the big wigs of the game said,
you're not going to score, don't score.
And when he managed to break through,
which he wasn't supposed to do,
he's like, uh-oh, I'm going to get in trouble.
But here's where it gets crazy.
This article, Trevor Lawrence jokes about fantasy football
is the reason for ignoring touchdown at the one-yard line.
Jokes about it?
He literally said, I'm looking out for the fantasy fans.
And then they're like, ah, he's joking.
Or was he serious and just oblivious, like, I didn't know that was a crime?
It's really annoying because we're going to get the truth on this in 20 years on a podcast.
Whatever Lawrence says the rounds.
And he'll be like, oh, that's so funny.
I remember that vaguely.
Yeah, I think there's like three possibilities of what happened here.
The first is he's being honest.
He was just trying to chew the clock up.
I mean, you could take another two minutes off maybe with three extra downs.
The second possibility is, yeah, he's in on it.
Like if he had a rushing touchdown, it would have cost him to get a bunch of money or something like that.
The third, which I find that would be actually the most compelling explanation.
I saw a few people propose this, is that the halfback has some sort of clause in his contract
where he gets extra money based off of how many rushing touchdowns he gets that year.
And so he must be buddies with the halfback and they're trying to get him.
This has happened before.
Some people pointed out a few examples of, I think, like, I think on the Jaguar,
I think as Maurice Jones drew,
had a similar clause
or if he got, you know,
so many rushing touchdowns
by certain week in the year,
he would get like a huge paycheck.
And so some people speculate,
hey,
this gives us,
it's kind of a combination.
It gives us an opportunity
to burn more time off
for dominating this game.
And then additionally,
you can give her halfback
an extra rushing touchdown
because it's on the one yard line.
That to me kind of seems like
the most compelling explanation.
Because if it's this,
I mean,
surely he's not stupid enough to,
like,
if they'll figure out.
If there's,
you know,
somebody catching,
out and they have a connection to him. They'll sniff that out right away. Maybe he is. Maybe it's the CTE. I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, look, they're playing the Patriots. The Patriots definitely would have run the ball, you know, run the score up as much as they could. I don't have particularly strong feelings as about to why he would do this.
I mean, gambling. Well, yeah, I mean, possibly. But you, I mean, you do see weird things happen like that in football games, but I mean, I don't have. You know, I'm going to do. I'm going to live stream myself walking to the white
House press briefing and I'm going to be like I'm going there and then because there's a
wager for there's a contract bet for me a contract whatever on calci Tim pool will go to a
white house press briefing and we're actively trying to go they did invite us again so we'll
see but what I should what I should do I'll live stream myself walking up but like all right everybody
I am walking there and then right when I get the door I'm taking knee yeah yeah bad idea
cross the line Tim and then I think your third one is the most plausible I think it's something
like that, but it still brings us to the same spot, which is there's so much money in these games
now, in sports and sports gambling and in the conduct, as you say, if it was the contract,
it sounds right, you know, that you've got all these, it's just changing the way things are
operating.
And to think that these guys are going to stay sort of pure of hard is insane.
And I mentioned off air that I met in my time in DOJ with this guy, Jonte Porter, who has
admitted that he had a gambling problem in the NBA.
He talked about it publicly.
It's very compelling.
An addict.
He goes to gambling anonymous and all and has stopped and all this kind of stuff.
But when you hear him talk about the fact that every aspect of the NBA is being gambled on,
you know, how many points you get in a quarter, how many rebounds, how many minutes you play,
all these things.
To think that it's not going to be manipulated by people who want to make money is just, it's naive.
I mean, it's not just the NBA, though.
Right, right, no, that's right.
The NBA is just where it's most egregious, because if you ever look up the Malik Beasley throwing games tape, I mean, it's the most un-blahe-like, he doesn't even try to like disguise it or hide it. And he got indicted. I don't think he got indicted, but he got investigated. I think it might be pending. But there's like a sizzle reel of like 10 minutes of Malik Beasley just like throwing the ball out of balance, like slipping and, you know, like throws it behind him. It goes on the goal. Like it's absolutely insane. But, you know, additionally, even if it's not gambling related, there's still with the contract, stuff that just completely erodes the integrity of the game. Because I don't know if you remember, there was this.
Spree were Russell Westbrook.
I think he averaged a triple double over the season for non-basketball viewers.
It should get over 10 points, over 10 rebounds, over 10 assists.
You know, you could do steal or something that's unlikely.
And like, he's a point guard, so they don't get rebounds, right?
He's supposed to be taking the ball before he's usually the shortest player on the floor.
But if the other team shot a three-pointer, the big men would run down the court
so then they'd be clear wide open for Russell Westbrook to go grab a rebound.
And people were like, does he really just care about his stats that much where he like needs to get a triple-double every game?
potentially it could be a pride thing,
but was more likely was that, again,
if he got in a certain,
for every triple double he got,
he probably got some sort of kickback
from the Oklahoma City Thunder,
and therefore he was directly incentivized,
and his teammates were directly incentivized
to allow him to collect rebounds,
then all of a sudden it starts tampering with statistics,
records, et cetera,
it just erodes the integrity of the game.
So it's like, even if it's not something as legal
as sports gambling, these convoluted contracts,
the amount of money in the game,
it still tamper's the integrity of sport.
Here's what I never got.
You can bet on the color of the game.
the Gatorade, but there are probably hundreds of people who know what the color of the Gatorade is.
So how is that, how are people betting on that? You're a suckers bet.
Right. Well, it's like, I guess as soon as, you know, if you go, if you're like watching
the game, like three or four hours before, if you see a spike, you go in bed on that. That's
probably your best option. There's some lady who works in an accounting department or a delivery
company who's like, they just ordered like 500 gallons of, you know, like Arctic frost or whatever.
And she's like, well, I know what the color of the Gatorade is going to be.
Well, that's why a lot of the college team started, like, throwing people off and they would mix two flavors together.
I don't know.
Really?
Green or brown or it.
But if I can say, guys, I move it a little bit, and I'll sound like a scourge, I guess, but the gambling's out of control.
Oh, totally.
And it's targeted at the kids, and it's targeted, and kids are in the NBA, and now in the NCAA football, you know, the top programs, the kids are making a million dollars, and they're not even the stars.
And so they're gambling all the time.
And what I hate about it the most is they're usually.
using the technology, the neuroscience, to change your brain to make these kids do it.
And the idea of this not being something that we're all screaming about is crazy to me.
We're destroying generations of kids with this, allowing this stuff to go on.
I know it's a genie back in the bottle, but it's really, really bad.
I have a, like, this is what's being annoying.
It's like being a, you know, proper, you know, conservative, et cetera.
is I'm still holding the line on all these issues
that the cat's kind out of the back.
Like, I'm still against gay marriage.
That train left the station 10 years ago.
Like, you got to be a Republican nominee of the Progate,
but I'm like, I'm still holding on lines because I'm like,
dude, once you like start giving an inch here,
they'll take a mile.
This has certainly been the case of gambling.
They're saying, oh, what?
It's just putting a bet on your phone.
What's the big deal?
Next thing, you know you're watching Little League
and there's betting market.
This is insane.
Dude, it's over.
The future of the economy is,
moving it. So this is my prediction. We had a labor economy. Then the labor economy evolved in a
variety of ways. We brought in beasts of burden. And now you had an animal husbandry economy.
Could you bring the mules or the horses? Could you buy them? But it was still a labor economy.
It was still the work you were doing, but it was aided. Industry came about and we still had a labor
economy. Then we start offshoring a lot of this labor. We get a service sector economy. Now it's,
can I provide a service to you, not even a
thing. Things started to change dramatically with the internet when we got the information economy.
This is once the internet became ubiquitous, now there was tons of money to be made in delivering
news and information through websites. People wanted this, advertiser were selling through it.
Information was access to product knowledge. And the saying goes for sales, a million years,
right? You can have the best product in the world. And if no one knows about it, you don't got a product
at all. Now we are in the attention economy.
is ubiquitous. No one needs you to tell them the news. Okay. You like the moment Donald Trump
does a backflip, everyone's already found out about it. So the question is, how long can I keep
your attention? This is a resulting in videos where people are screaming at the top of their lungs at
each other. But what happens after an attention economy? The prediction economy. Economics based on
being able to foretell events because you're smart, smarter or more insightful. So we get the,
I can provide you with information economy. Please just look at me. I've got nothing left. And then
I can see things before you do. Now, for a lot of that's always existed to a small degree.
But stock trading was not for the retail investor. It didn't exist until I think it was like the
Jobs Act or something with Obama only in the past like 15 or so years. You had to be rich or an institution
to invest.
I think where we're going now and the reason why Kalshi, polymarket, sports betting, fantasy,
the reason why all that's blowing up, our economy is going in a direction based, this is the
future, okay, with AI, with everything.
You don't need jobs.
UBI won't work.
The economy is going to be based on if you are better at predicting outcomes than other people.
So what do we get?
Gambling is stupid.
Gambling is like the stupidest, lowest tier of this because playing blackjack,
You can't, you can count cards if you're, if you're looking at an actual shoe and improve your odds to 50.5%, but they'll kick you out for that.
But if you're doing sports betting, there are people, people that I know who are doing million bucks a month sports betting, insane numbers.
And I'm going to tell you right now, I've already brought this up.
The average salary of a millionaire is 165K per year.
I know people that have, maybe they're not doing like a million every single month because it depends on when sporting are in.
But there were people that are printing money with sports betting.
You guys ever see the movie Casino?
One of the best movies ever made, you gotta watch it.
Robert De Niro, back before he went nuts.
And his character is based on a true story.
He's like, he used to make tons of money for the mafia, for the mob, by sports betting.
It'd be really simple.
He'd go and meet with friends and family and say, tell me about the players.
Tell me about the jockeys.
What's going on?
And they'd be like, ah, yeah, he's been feeling sick this morning.
You'll go, okay, you go bet against them, and he'd print money.
This is what we're starting to see now.
Do you have access to information and can you predict more?
So it's one thing to say gambling is the general.
Yeah, yeah, I get it, but you're not stopping it because the genie's out of the bottle, the cat's out of the bag.
You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
I'll use every analogy we have in the world for this one.
You are going to see the people who are making the most money are the people who can look at the players and look at the numbers and say,
I know who's going to win tomorrow.
and they're going to do crazy parlays, and they're going to make crazy money.
This is what we, and we're already seeing it right now.
Like I mentioned that that peanut live stream, the cartoon peanut, burnt peanut,
burnt peanut, apparently it's just cracking packs in CS2.
People just want to watch that.
So you've already got this massive explosion.
You've got like Vegas Matt.
Have you guys, have seen Vegas Matt?
Dude plays slots and prints money.
You got Lady Luck plays slots and Prince.
money. You can lose the gambling, but people want to watch it. They want to play it. People want to be
involved in it. We can call it bad all day and night. Don't get me wrong. I completely agree.
But this is where the economy is shaping up to go. Yeah. Well, I mean, there's like multiple things here.
I mean, because we have, you know, deaths of misery, right? You know, people that, you know, start
consuming drugs or whatever. But now you're seeing like consumption of misery, right? Like, I think a lot of
what's going on here is these are people that, and primarily young men,
who don't view themselves of having a future in the country or having a future in general.
And so they just say, well, okay, I could do 50 years at a company.
You know, you're not even guaranteed a good pension anymore.
Or I can just get rich now because I want to be rich now because the only time I'm
able to enjoy this wealth is while I'm young.
And so they'd start, you know, buying into these effectively get rich quick schemes.
There's so many problems of sports betting we can get into.
I think another missing piece here.
So I think, first of all, it's primarily affecting young men.
Secondarily, young men were primed for this because here's like a little zoom
inside baseball is from like 12 years old when you're playing video games. And I like video games.
I'm a proud gamer. But you're primed for gambling, especially if you're playing games like
Fortnite or games like I love FIFA growing up. And on FIFA you have Ultimate Team. What do you do in
Ultimate Team? You pay money and you open a pack and then you have a, you know, 5% chance of getting
a good player. And it kind of already starts getting this mentality of gambling of, you know,
putting money in. You know the, you know the odds are stuff.
act against you, but you know there's a chance
to get a really good player. So it's already kind of primed
this, I don't know if risk tolerance is the proper word
to use here, but it's tampered
with people's psychology when it comes to
risk involving putting money on the line.
And so it basically primed an entire
generation, my generation, same thing with
Fortnite, same thing with, you know, Call the Duty Warzone.
It primed us for
betting markets. It primed us for sports
gambling. Okay, I'm probably going to lose money, but
when I do make money, I'm going to make it out back.
Same thing with like Pokemon and Magic the Gathering
cards. It opened, like Tim was saying, burnt peanuts,
opening packs of, you know, cards.
Yeah, but I think he's pulling guns in CS2.
Well, yeah, and I don't know, I don't know exactly what I think these video games like
FIFA, like, Fortnite were like so designed for mass consumption that at prime book
from the online aspect.
Because I, growing up, I don't really remember people doing pack openings or like kids on the
playground, but you can do that in your living room as long as you had your parents' credit
card.
The point, the point right now is, let me, I'll play, I'll phrase it like this.
I have seen probably 7,000 great musicians on Instagram.
and I'm going to tell you guys
I don't know if the issue is just that humans aren't real
like they're all NPCs and you know like
you said that the Seventh-day Adventists were right
there's only like...
Joe's Witness, there's like 144,000 are and sold them like
they might have been cooking with that.
Well, go on Instagram and you're like,
do you many times I have seen the video
where a person walks in the room
and in the corner of the room they see the woman in the white dress
of the horror twisted in the corner
and then it points and they look down there's a spider
and then they're both in the corner of the room.
I have seen that video seven thousand times.
I want these people criminally charged for being boring,
but I started to think to myself,
maybe they just can't think.
Like maybe the extent of their thought processes,
I can only imitate what I see other people do.
My point is people are bored.
I've seen a million videos.
Okay, in all serious, maybe it's 375,
where it's some young Gen Z woman playing a folk song and a guitar,
and then there's text being like, you're so lucky, your algorithm stumbled upon this independent
artist. And I'm like, yeah, you win 7,000 other identical, generic, boring people. Block, block,
go away. My point is this. People are bored. They have nothing to do. Everybody can sing.
Anybody can AI generate good music. No one needs to do much of anything. While we have political
complaints, the rise of woke and political complaints is largely attached to. There's
nothing else to do. We don't have to tend the fields anymore or the chickens or the cows. People
who are poor in the United States are obese. So from this, people are listless, purposeless,
and bored. And they're seeking out a dopamine hit. What's really bad about it is if I go out
in my skate park and I land a Nali hard flip, I get a dopamine hit. It feels good. I did that trick.
I'm a 40 year old man. I still got it. For young people,
They artificially trigger a dopamine hit when they win at gambling something they cannot control.
And that's the problem is that there's nothing left for people to do that makes them feel like they're succeeding except for random chance.
I'd go one step further in this, or take it one step further.
And I think it's great that the president has been fighting with fake news and saying how fake news is bad.
But I'm past the point where I believe that the TV can brainwash people as well as big tech does with all
these tools because you can say that they conditioned you with the FIFA game by now they've got
neuroscientists on their team and they're figuring out how to hook you and they're figuring out how to
hook your your siblings and your kids and everybody else and that's that's the real enemy here
the real enemy to me is the tech monsters that are using neuroscience to take to take over our lives
all of us and I don't disagree Tim that that's where we are you can't put the genie back in the
bottle. But to not describe it that way is to me, you know, again, NBC News isn't, is in programming us.
They're not, or CNN even. It's Facebook and it's, it's, uh, all the big tech giants. And, and I,
I think it's much scarier than people realize. Well, I completely agree. I mean, like, if Thomas Edison
were alive today, he'd be working for some advertising firm, like, you know, digging through, you know,
people's data to determine, you know, how to best target, you know, Mr. Beast, you know,
candy bar at or something. Like, that's quite literally the brightest minds of the United States,
barring some who do find success, are like pouring into basically advertising agencies.
Like, it is really disturbing stuff. And yeah, to your point, I think people overrate the impact
of liberal universities of mainstream media. I think a lot of what's going on is like social
contagions who spread their pathogens through social media. And I'm not advocate. I think a social media
ban actually makes things worse. But it is to indicate that young people are developing these
ideas independently of like, you know, mainstream messaging. I think these are actually
developing like pretty organically. Like you're amazing with like transgender people. A lot of that
stuff, a lot of the stuff they're into, a lot of that culture is developed independently and it
is disseminated through social media. But I don't think that is like some of it certainly is
down, but like they enter these universities to the left of the universities.
Like that is often the case.
And then they maybe pull the university to the left, but they're like coming in from high school
like this.
We're not changing this.
If you want change, you have to influence children, not Gen Z.
Gen Z are adults.
You're not going to go to someone who's in their mid-20s and say, let's rearrange your
entire life.
It's not happening.
The habits that were built, like you described, came from when y'all were 12 years old.
Cracking packs, boosters, playing Overwatch and desperately trying to get
that skin, and then you can show it off. You can play the game with the rare pack pole or the
Pokemon card. So these people are now adults, and you're not putting that back. You can go to younger
kids and say, we're putting a stop to this now so that when they grow up, they don't have these
habits, but it's all happening. Yeah. I want to read this RumbleRand from John Waters. He says,
I watch Vegas Matt. It's actually four guys talking and having fun. He shows his session,
win or lose. I like watching because it's an escape from all the noise, just four guys joking and
having fun. I get it. Completely agree. And that's what our plan with the show, Poker with the Boys,
was supposed to be. We wanted to do a podcast that was more just like dudes goofing off and telling
jokes. Unfortunately, it's illegal in every single state to do this unless we move to Texas.
So it's like, we never got around to it, that we bought all the stuff. The point is not gambling.
The point was an escape. And it's something that I was pointing out before last week. The internet used
to be the escape. It's not anymore. The internet is now the prison. The internet is now real life.
When I was younger, before we had ubiquitous smartphones, I'd go out into the world and that was
the world you interacted with. I mean, old people recognized, like remember this, young people
didn't live it. So I'd go to work. That's work. News would be on. People would talk about stuff.
Had to refill the mangoes in the jamba juice fridge. I worked at a jamba juice. And I'd go back home
and I'd have a computer, and I could go in a room by myself and send in the computer and just
shut everything down. And I'd learn about things and I'd be interested in things. Today, the internet
is the prison. It is life. And so people are turning it off and being like, I want something else.
Yo, I've watched, it blew my mind, walking in a room full of people sitting on couches,
and they're watching Vegas mat two-hour slot machine. Just literally like, press a button, the slot comes down.
Yeah. Press a button, slot comes down. And they're like,
Like, I just want it all to shut up.
I get it.
Well, I think it's like virtually impossible to find like a normie oracle, like this person
that is completely untouched by the internet now because it's like it really is all
encompassing.
And like my grandmother knows what looks maxing is.
I mean, like it is like beyond, you know, it is beyond like this is something that like was
circulating on 4chan 10 years ago and now is like in the American zeit guys.
Everyone's aware of it.
CNN and New York Times are all doing, you know, big hits on it and whatnot.
Like we are beyond the point where, you know, we can like.
revert back and just go back. You do get these rare moments where the internet actually does,
and I'm talking about like the post-COVID era, does offer up something that is probably
healthy for people. I think the key is like trying to amplify that. Like a good example was like
in the aftermath of COVID and the lockdowns is chess had this moment where chess, everyone's
into chess. Like all my friends are playing chess. We are, you know, intaking chess streamers and we
are watching chess tournaments and whatever. Nerds. Yeah, it's like nerds. But it's funny because
it's like you had people from all sorts of walks of life like getting into chess.
And what was funny is it kind of died off.
And I wonder if part of the reason it died off was because these companies were finding it impossible to monetize it.
Like the main house in chess was chess.com.
And chess.com is ran by like these chess purist ideologues.
Maybe that's not a, you know, I'm sure chess people will get mad at that.
But like, from my perspective, these are people that weren't actually seeking to just like totally monetize their basically stranglehold on the market.
And it was this rare moment where I'm like, this is actually something nice that the internet is offered up and provided.
I think the key would be like, you kind of have the socially engineer your way out of this,
is like amplify those more positive analog experiences and pretty much legislate out of existence,
these more like cancerous elements of the internet like the gambling and whatnot.
But guys, let's play it out then.
Let's play out what the crisis to come is.
And this is way too glib.
But, you know, the industrial revolution happens and everybody comes in off the farms.
And according to their, you know, accounts, they were drunk.
The men were go to work in a factory and they get drunk at night.
It's where gin got popular in London.
They were all blotto, right?
And then you go forward in time and you see every time, you know, if you're right, Tim,
that we're going towards this thing where it's going to be the attention economy, what do we end up with?
Prediction economy, sorry, what do we end up with in terms of how people are living?
Because you're not going back on the farm, I agree with you.
There's nothing to do, I agree with you relatively.
And all the relationships have changed, right?
There's not the same situation where you lived within eight blocks of all the people that you might possibly marry in 1915, right?
So what are we headed towards?
Think about it this way.
When AI can do everything and it already knows what is, what value do humans have, conceptualization.
So if any person can go on AI and get a picture generated, a video game made, a movie made can answer any question, then humans have no value for each other.
The economy makes no sense.
I'm not going to go to you and say, can you do work for me?
The robot can do it by itself.
The robot can answer all the questions.
Heck, optimist bots are going to come and clean my gutters.
It costs me almost nothing.
What value does another person have?
I can provide information not yet available.
So the AI can answer the questions now, but it sucks at predictions.
I can make a good prediction.
So we're going to see people who tend to be right based on what's going to happen.
Now, this is already true, obviously.
If you are good at predicting the future, you're going to get rich.
It will just be substantially more apparent and the basis by which many people are becoming rich.
And it already is actually.
But what's the crisis look like?
What's the crisis look like?
What is the, what is the devastation of that look like in terms of the community?
You know, how do people function?
How do they feel?
I mean, what do you do about it?
Well, I mean, not everybody's going to be good at predicting.
Not everybody's good at anything.
Right, I know.
So there are people who work at McDonald's and they can't do anything else.
Right, but they have something to do.
And in the future, that's not going to be there for them.
So they got nothing to do.
There are people right now who just live off welfare.
Well, there are people who do nothing and get paid.
There are jobs that are fake for the purpose just to give people money.
Well, I agree with that, but that's a progression in a negative way, a regression or whatever the word would be, towards something that's not good, right?
There wasn't welfare 100 years ago the same way there is now, right?
You had to go to St. Stanislaws if you were Polish-American and get some help or you're going to St. Patrick's.
So what do we end up with if we go?
I mean, UBI doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
So it doesn't work.
So we have right now a class of people that, as you said, are obese.
And because they're on welfare, it's not a meaningful life, right?
So what do we end up?
Do we end up?
Do we end up with most of the people in that existence?
So most people actually have a meaningless life?
Well, that's a question.
Outside, I mean, most people find meaning with their, with families and with their,
social connections and stuff.
Most people don't do a job they love.
They do a job that pays the people.
bills. They do a job that they can tolerate.
So I don't know that
we're going to
be able to fix the
fact that people don't have the same social connections,
but I don't think the jobs part
is actually that important because I think
that there are an exceedingly few number of people
at least in the U, particularly
in the world, but specifically
in the U.S., that
have a job they really enjoy
that they love. Most people go to a
a job that they tolerate. Maybe they like. But did anybody ever? I mean, if you were, if you're a hunter
gatherer or work in a few, so that's just, that's called. There's more people now than ever have,
probably. Yeah, that's right. I think that's true. And so I'm just saying that what the problem that's
coming is, it seems overwhelming. I think what I'm trying to articulate is the, is the social
connections is the more pressing problem than the actual work stuff. Yes. Well, I think that's true.
And I mean, I know, Ed, you've talked about this before.
I mean, I think part of it really is like with sort of immigration crisis that we have.
Like, you're seeing the sort of the social compact breakdown where, I mean, even legal immigrants,
like, okay, so I did all this paperwork and this person just comes, skips the line where, like,
a lot of communities in this country really feel unstable because of the volume of, like,
a legal immigration that's coming to the country.
And, like, Trump's been doing some great work on the immigration front.
But how do you, like, go to young men and you're like, hey, by the way, you can't buy
house and 20 million of them are being
And then Sarah Huckabee Sanders makes
an ad just crapping
all over you. Yeah, and you know, how
was looking for a job? By the way, that's the end of her
career. She wanted to be VP in the next
let's pull this up.
We got this tweet from Sarah Huckabee
Sanders. You pay taxes to cover welfare
for people who just choose not to work.
That's why I launched a welfare to work requirement.
If you're young, healthy, and get government
assistance, you should work, go to school
or volunteer. Let me play the video for you guys
and then you can guess why everyone's mad.
You want some of this?
Take that. Come on.
Me, Brad.
Brad has turned relaxing into a full-time profession.
But you, you actually work hard.
You pay taxes to cover welfare for guys like Brad
who just choose not to work.
That's why I launched a welfare-to-work requirement.
Almost there.
Now, more Arkansasans are working than ever before.
Even Brad
So what do you guys notice
About this video that's got everybody all angry?
He's a chud
They're going after gamers
They're going after Gen Z white male gamers
As if they're sitting at home on welfare not working
Oh I'm proud to say on this tweet
I have the top quote tweet I've raised showed her like 3 to 1 on this
Good stuff
Matt Walsher are holding it down on this front
In the quotes?
Yeah I have number one
Kate Brown says the only acceptable villain in their anti-welfare ad is a young white male gamer.
Yeah.
It's the safe one though.
It is.
It's the safe attack vector where it's like, look, if we're going to cut the brass tax, I think we kind of know instinctually, especially in a place like Arkansas, who the primary people are that are on welfare that probably shouldn't be.
A gamer walks alone.
Yeah.
And so you're seeing like this total all out attack.
It's always going to be acceptable to punch and beat up on young white men because like we're expected to just take it.
And that's what's so absurd about this, where, you know, some people are like, well, what if she's doing 40 chess?
Like, this is an issue that needs to be solved.
But she understands, like, if she can win over, like, you know, more left-wing people by attacking young white men, then, like, people support it.
And I'm like, then just don't cut the ad at all.
Like, why even make the ad in the first place?
It's just a completely abhorrent messaging to young men who, like, it's been well illustrated that, and the Trump administration has been, you know, a large part of exposing a lot of this.
It's been well illustrated how major institutions this country have seek to punish.
young white men, prevent them from getting into college, prevent like through deep supporting
DEI initiatives, prevent them from getting better and better jobs in the economy that they would
be entitled to off of merit. It's just in every direction. It's been this impediment. And then how
do you turn around? You turn around and attack those same guys who I did a curse research. It's like
3% of under 30 white men are taking welfare subsidies in the state of argument. And they're probably
taking it legitimately. Presumably, yeah. They collect that unemployment legitimately and then
there are people who are abusing it and they're not being called out.
Yeah, so that's what's just fresh. And it kind of goes back to my earlier thing.
Like, I mean, immigration is like where a lot of young men are not a lot. You can go look at the polling.
The number one issue, young men are citing is like immigration related issues, whether it's like housing crunches caused by immigration, you know, job.
It's got crunch from immigration. So it's like the Trump administration has been doing really good work on that front.
But the problem is immigration in and of itself, not going to be a kitchen table issue.
When you communicate to young guys, hey, we're like buying you back into the game.
You guys got completely like nuked from orbit by liberals with their junior partners.
the conservative movement.
We're buying you back into this game
by creating some room with immigration enforcement.
Communicate that to us.
What you don't do is turn around
and then this is your messaging.
And we're not just picking on
the random governor of Arkansas.
This is a woman that is steeped
in conservative ink tradition.
This is a woman whose dad
is one of the most important people
in the conservative movement, so to speak.
This is a woman that should know better.
And so this isn't just an outlier
because you also will see
this sorts of messaging
from Republicans all the time
because they take
granted young white men because, you know, as soon as young white men start getting a little agitated,
say, what, are you going to go vote for the Marxists? They hate you even more. And it's like,
it just puts you in this tough perspective from like game theory. Well, that's why Nick Fuentes said
the GOP needs to be burned to the ground. Yeah. Because of things like this. And he's just like,
you're not going to get any meaningful political representation until the GOP is, is weak and
taken over. Well, and if you look at it from the perspective of how do the Democrats talk about
their core constituents really so they like expect to be a part of their core constituencies.
They're coming up with holidays for them. They're coming up with grants. They're like black women,
black men are the greatest things in sliced bread. And it's like if that's your core base,
fine, the Democrats know how to play politics. I'm not expecting the GOP to have like, like,
white history month or anything like that. But at the very least, don't attack us. I mean,
it is just like, especially if they are, they are in this knife fight for the midterms.
I mean, it's insulting, sure. But additionally, you're just going to completely demoralize young
guys who, okay, yes, they're not like the number one voting block. It's still going to be,
you know, older white people for the Republicans. But you're going to need them at some
point, like when, you know, the demographics. Well, I'm sorry. I just, I got a rag on conservatives.
Like at a certain point, you know, I look at a kid and he's getting bullied, okay? And I see a bully
picking on him. And the kid who's getting bullied just keeps getting bullied and he won't do anything
about it. Am I supposed to go, oh, no.
no, oh, that poor baby.
Nah, it ain't me.
That ain't me.
I'm going to see that kid, and he's going to be like, I'm getting picked on.
I'd be like, well, maybe you should start doing some push-ups, learn to fight, kick him into balls,
and they'll leave you there alone.
I'm just, I'm done.
I'm frustrated with conservatives who will not defend themselves to save their own political
ideology.
It just, it's frustrating.
But this ad has a history.
Reagan got famous in between his 76 and 80 laws talking about welfare queens.
And he accurately showed who it was and that the policies of the great society had created this mess.
And here is what I would say is amateur hour.
Someone said welfare.
I've seen the polling.
Welfare to work polls well among voters, they say.
But if you don't know where the heartbeat of the Republican Party or the conservative movement or just America is,
you do an ad like this.
I mean, imagine naming that person Brad.
Like, it's actually, like, taunting everybody that knows Judd and Chad and all the rest of it.
And for her to think that this turns out anybody, and by the way, Arkansas, she does have a problem.
She's not very popular down there.
So she's doing something to try to react to that.
That's what's going on.
But, I mean, again, end of her career.
And, Tim, I don't know what you mean.
What do you want?
You want Brad to defend himself for us to throw her under the bus?
I'm saying her career's over.
She will never be on a national ticket.
So she exemplifies the, I'm not going to call out the actual abuse in the welfare system, which is largely coming from migrants.
It's coming from single baby mamas in the black community.
It's not coming from young white Gen Z guys.
They're too afraid to say it, so they won't.
At the same time, I also will kind of push my edge.
And I saw a clip.
And with all their respect, I know people get, people get mad because it's like, it feels
like I'm attacking a little guy.
But Crowder's got his debate going on right now.
And there was a woman who said that she has to lie about her politics to graduate.
Don't go to that school.
I'm done.
I'm not sympathizing with you when you choose to go to a woke university, pretend to be liberal,
lie on your papers and say, please validate me, woke professor.
I'm so sick of this.
When I was a teenager, I had a friend who was getting paid $3 an hour working as a waitress.
And she was like, it's not fair.
We need to raise the minimum wage and guarantee waitstaff wages.
And I said, you can quit.
She was like, well, no, I need the job.
And I'm like, okay, well, if they're not paying you enough, you clearly need a better job.
So quit.
And she's like, I can't.
Like, I have to have a job.
And I said, okay, then go to all the other employees and tell them all to get together and quit at the same time, demand a $2 an hour rate.
And she said, no, I won't do that.
I say, then don't complain to me and demand that we change laws for you when you won't take the first step to improving your life.
So again, with all due respect, I understand it is stressful.
It is difficult.
But if you have decided that you are going to bend the knee to these people, don't be surprised when they lured over you for 20 years.
look if you're gonna get if you're gonna you know steal man the her her argument or her her
her ad at the end brad gets a job and it's like oh look this is this is maybe something good
but you can't deny the fact that like young white men have got kind of the the you know
shit into the stick for the past decade or so since 2015 i forget what there what the uh
article was but you were we talked about it on the show before tay what was it the article about
the discrimination against young white men.
Oh, right, yeah, in the compact.
That was in the compact.
And it's true.
Like, John Doyle was talking about it recently.
It's like young white men actually are discriminated against.
And I think the reason that she went with this isn't so much that she has a bone to pick with young white men.
But because the fact that it's safe, if you put any other person in it.
Republicans are too scared to say there are black women abusing the welfare system and we're giving too much money to
illegal and legal immigrants.
They're too scared to say. Except Donald Trump.
Imagine if Democrats in California cut an ad painting, you know, a Chinese guy is like just
this like really incompetent. Like it'd be so stupid because it's like that's your base.
Like what are you doing? So it's like just don't make the ad at all. Don't make it. It's going
to be popular. People are going to like it. If that's your like, don't even make the ad at all
because you've just antagonized who like like in large part, I can attest to this personally
make up the majority of your activist base. So everyone's like, okay, well they don't vote.
Yes, that's true. But they do provide you.
the muscle. Those are the ones knocking on doors. Those are the guys who are going to, like,
staff a lot of these administrations. If you alienate them, you potentially, they're not going
to go to the left, but they're just going to tap out. They're going to be on Cal Shee and sports
betting and whatnot. It's like when you see these, uh, home security company commercials and the
burglars are always like middle-aged white people. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry, that's just not
the demographic of people that have committed these crimes. You know, I have a problem with
this. There is nothing wrong with saying that a majority of like murders are committed by
young black men. That is just a statistic. And it says,
nothing about the individual black person. It is not disparaging in any way to your average or any
other black person to point out there are criminals that are just proportion that murder is disproportionately
committed by young black men. That's it. But what we see here is, as Phil pointed out,
and I think it's already been said several times, but I'll say it again, it is safe to attack white men.
It is safe because white men aren't going to do anything about it. And if she goes after the actual
demographics that are abusing welfare, she's like, I would lose every single one of those votes.
So you know what?
White people are going to vote for.
And this is kind of the point that I was making with, and not for anybody here, not for the people
who are obviously standing up and pushing back.
But as we're looking at this, you know, I've got X pulled up on monitoring news.
And I see at Crowder's debate, this woman said she had to lie about her political beliefs,
lie on her paperwork.
Otherwise, she wouldn't graduate.
And I was like, congratulations, you bent the need to woke lunatics so that they would
validate you.
I hope it works out for you.
congratulations Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
The white people, white conservatives are going to vote for despite this ad.
Like you said, what are you going to do, vote for a Marxist?
They're going to bend over and take this stuff.
So I don't know what the answer is.
I'm just, I'll tell people this, if you won't stand up for yourself, you know what, I'll
put it this way.
If you don't have the fortitude to stand up for yourself, don't expect me to.
Yeah, well, I think you should like look at it from a slightly different perspective,
which is no young men,
young, let's just say specifically,
young white men aren't going to vote Democrat.
That's likely not going to happen.
But you're going to lose an engine room.
Like this,
you know,
this,
and it's okay to say like young white men
are probably destined to vote Republican
because among young white men,
they are more right wing than millennials,
and I think potentially even Gen X.
They'll stay home.
Certainly.
But when you lose,
when you just basically nuke them from orbit,
they're not going to be excited to vote Republicans.
They're not going to be wanting to go work for them.
certainly because it's like why am I going to stick my neck out for you when you couldn't even
not just stick your neck out for me but you couldn't even resist attacking me. I mean, it's just like
completely ridiculous. So they're going to lose that engine room who they're going to need. I mean,
they don't need it right now per se, but they're going to need it in the next five to 10 years.
Yeah. And a lot of them are going to remember this. A lot of them aren't going to like say,
well, I was about to take that job, but I remember that Sarah Huckby Sanders. No, but it compounds.
It's just demoralization after more demoralization. They just tap out. They're like, I'm just going
to get really into football or something. And they're not going to be interested in this anymore.
All right. Let's jump to a story.
that I was hoping we wouldn't have to cover, but I guess we're going to have to cover it.
It's got 10 million plus views. I saw the story earlier. It's going massively viral because so many
people hate Candace Owens. But you got this guy next who says exclusive. Candice Owens is a lesbian with
four dating accounts and cheated on her Hebrew-speaking husband with girls in 2022. I found four
of her dating profiles. And there is some crude drawing of Candice licking a hairless cat.
And it says, Candice Owens, the cheating lesbian funded by a Zionist.
Oh my God.
It's got 8.8 million views plus insane amounts of quotes.
And it is the second top trending story on X right now.
I saw this story earlier and I said, I'm not going anywhere near this.
I actually, I think this guy emailed me.
And it said like something like the dirt on Candace.
And I was like, no, I don't do this stuff.
I'm not playing this game.
Well, you know, other people wanted to play that game.
So here you go.
I'll give you the gist of it.
so I've got to go through literally every single thing in this weird Scooby-Doo themed expose.
Apparently, she's got accounts on YouTube that it does appear, they're legit.
They're regular, like a regular YouTube account.
Using a specific username.
That same username is attached to gay dating profiles that I believe many of them don't have her face,
but it shows a young black woman.
And that's part of the corroborating information, I guess.
So, I don't know, we'll scroll down a little bit.
Chapter 1, it's apparently she's got, I don't know, look, you can read through it yourself.
I don't want to go through all this stuff, but she uses certain, certain usernames appear on gay dating profiles,
and the same username appears on other profiles that are very obviously her.
And so that's largely the argument.
And then there's some videos where you can hear her voice and stuff like this.
Yeah, I'm not going to play all of that.
But it's hilarious.
The cheating lesbian funded by a Zionist, the deconstruction of Candice.
Candice Owens' hidden homosexuality, the federal agent promoting real Candice O to become president so he can blackmail her with a sex tape and the Zionist who secretly owns her anti-Zionist business.
Oh, my God.
Well, what I will say is there was a big scandal because her lawyer was like one of the most prominent Zionists.
I don't know if you guys saw this.
is like weird.
I don't know.
Welcome to the news cycle, I guess.
This is the news.
Say words.
Say words.
Well, look, I mean, when you're someone as popular as Candace Owens, if you're, or, you know,
someone as that has made as much news as Candice Owens has in the past, you know, a couple
of years.
If you have skeletons in your closet, people are going to be looking for them.
And, I mean, obviously, I don't know how legitimate this stuff is.
It looks like there might be some.
substance to it. I saw the tweets myself and I scrolled on by.
I don't, I don't give much of a crap about Candace Owens or the drama kind of stuff.
But who gives a crap if she's gay anyway? I guess. I guess the idea is like, if you're going to put in the headline, she's funded by Zionists.
I can kind of tell the kind of people that are going to be sharing this and posting it.
Probably anti-Zionists. Yeah. And I don't know. Honestly, it would make sense that she's propped up as controlled
opposition if someone was going to make that argument.
I don't really care to argue that she's gay
if she is gay. Like my response
when I saw the email, someone emailed me in there
like, you got to see the story. I'm like, good
for her if she's gay, whatever. I don't know. She's in a sham marriage.
I don't know, whatever. Like, I'm not here to rag
on someone for being gay. You can do that. That's
fine. I think part of
the impulse for people
to do this is the fact that she's gotten so
down in the mud with stuff
and people are like, oh, well, if this
is the type of
salacious stuff that Candaceous
Owens is involved or interested in reporting finding out that she has, you know, salacious,
salacious past or whatever, people are going to be like, look, you know, that's like, look,
look, you lie down with pigs, you get, you get covered in mud.
That's the way that media works.
And if you're, you know, involved in this kind of stuff, again, I don't have.
I got to, I got to say, but, like, that's what's going to happen.
The picture they drew is, it's pretty good.
Yeah, you pull that up.
I was like, what is this point of?
I think it's just a test to the iron cloud.
reporting of mainstream news.
Yeah, exactly.
One of the best, most reputable outlets.
Yeah, I think they're in the new White House press pool.
You can see the mystery wagon outside of the White House.
Could you imagine if, like, Laurel Lumer asks, like, one of the, one of the, the whole
stand-in press briefings, I know, just like, can you comment on Candace Owens being a cheating
lesbian funded by Zionists?
Or if they're in the press pool.
Yeah, John Smith, Mystery Machine News.
Yeah, I was wondering if you're on.
Has Laura Lumer tweeted about this yet?
She did.
Sure, she's way to end.
Again, I was like, I don't care.
It's not news, okay?
Like, if Candace is gay, whatever, she can be gay.
But it's trending on X.
It's like the trending news right now.
I just muted everything that you could possibly, like, you know,
if you're even referencing her in some vague way, I haven't muted.
So I just am completely out of the Kansas.
So you missed the shocking reporting from Mystery Machine News.
I'm usually glued to my television set.
Why go with the stupidest brand you could?
If you've got this big expose,
call it like the world news times or something.
You know what I mean?
Not like shaggyism from the mystery machine.
I'm curious, the political philosophy there too.
He's already changed his bio to the man who defeated Candice O.
He's claiming victory already.
Yeah, it's just fascinating.
I got to be honest,
it's the kind of stuff that has me saying like, I'm checking out.
like with some renegade hard-hitting journalism that's no i'm just i'm just i'm watching i watched
did you guys know there was a pro data center party other day in dc oh yeah a bunch of conservatives
got together and had a big event and it was in favor of data centers and people were asking
like what you hear there's a woman and she's like i love the internet and it's and then some protesters
some protesters some protested showed up and started screaming they're stealing all our water and i'm just
like okay everyone's retarded maybe we really just need to go watch some football and just need to
return to like futileism. Watch football and see if Trevor Lawrence is taking a knee.
You need feudalism. Well, I mean like when politics is now I get politicians. You know why Mitch
McConnell or Mike Johnson is just like we're not going to do any of this stuff. John Thorne's like,
we're not going to pass the Save Act. They're sitting there being like, you want these people
actually in control? And I'm like, you know, this. You know, it's really mind-blowing to me.
There's a new show coming out in Hulu. I forgot what it's called. I saw a commercial
for it today. And it looked like, it looked like a schoolhouse.
Rock or whatever.
And I'm just like, and then I was, I was talking to my wife and I was like, you know,
like Toys R Us, there was like some report that toy sales are up amongst adults or something
like this.
Yeah.
And I'm just like.
A majority of sales.
This is the state, okay, you know what?
Like, what am I doing here?
You know, I mean, I could, uh.
You could be opening packs of Pokemon.
I was going to, I was going to say that back.
I got right behind me, right behind me.
You can't see it anymore.
We moved it over.
I'll move it back.
I've got a blue neon chocobo card.
Blue neon chocobo card.
You want to look up the value on that?
Blue neon chocobo card.
Blue neon chokobo.
We ain't playing around.
How do you spell chokabo?
It's phonetic.
C-H-O-C-O-B-O.
Chocobo.
Don't you know anything, Phil?
No, I don't.
Chocolate bow.
I feel like, yeah, spelling of phonetically actually confuses me more.
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess because of C and out of K.
Blue neon chocobo, come on.
Chocobo.
Between $1,925-dollar.
For ungraded near mint condition copies, the current market ranges between $19,500 and $1,500.
Fresh out the pack in a double sleeve placed inside our little box.
I also have an ancestral recall.
A PSA 10 mint grade is examples exceed $3,900,000.
Wow.
I doubt it's 10 because you've got to get lucky to pull a 10.
Yeah.
But, you know, 9 to 9.5 is like typical when you open a pack, just because there's always some kind of blemish.
But I could be spending my days cracking packs of we got reality fracture coming out for Magic the Gathering.
I could just open booster packs and make a ton of money instead of whatever this is.
That's true.
I mean, like, people are passionate.
But I say it again, you know, like we're chickens in a chicken coop.
Because I look at a lot of this stuff and I'm just like, this is what people want to talk about.
Oh, yeah.
Like when I'm on the street and then I see the Jehovah's Witness doing their thing, I stop now.
I'm like, tell me more about your thing again.
Well, because here's the reality.
I mean, what are you fighting for in politics of the story like this?
What are you hoping to accomplish?
Because if you're hoping to accomplish real change, like if you think Candace is negatively
impacting the state of political affairs, this is not the most effective thing that a smart
person could do to stop her.
Smartest thing you could do would be as make as much money as possible and influence control
and other systems.
if you have control of a large business,
you can actually manipulate
with like that business, other industries.
You can do things like we see at these universities
and subsidize ideas.
Making a blog that insults her for being gay
doesn't actually do anything.
You know?
Well, no, but the score settling.
I don't know if it's maybe it's a score settling.
It's, yes.
This is just this person trying to use Candace
as a springboard for their own, you know,
attend or for attention. That's why that's why he's already changed his name to the man that
took Kansas Owens down or whatever. Yeah, I don't, but that's that's what I'm talking about
why I'm saying like, dude, am I really, am I really going to, is this really what we're doing?
Too much of politics is just, remember, remember the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, what were
name was. I don't remember. Yeah, it was
something magging. I don't know.
I mean, because it's like... Oh, uh, Cooter-mogging.
Cooter maugging. Yes, the cooter mugger. Yes.
She, well, she's just selling her only fans.
They all are! Well, I don't know that he...
I got another one to pull up for you guys. I got another one to pull up for you guys.
Let me see if I can, uh, if I can find this...
Cooter Mugging.
I got a video here from, uh, I think it's the New York Times.
Everything's fake. Everybody's lying.
Instagram is dumb. Here's the video.
The Exodus.
I'm an ex-Tradwife. The first thing I do every morning is check to see my child supports been baby. God!
There is a new category of social media influencer. Tradwife, de-influencer.
I was an 18-year-old tradwife who had a baby at the same age, and I'm 36 now, and I'm here to tell you, don't do it.
The tradwife trend really came to prominence as the MAGA movement was rising, as Trump was coming into office the first time.
What these trad wife accounts are keying into is conservative political movements in the United States.
But the trad wife social media trend is waning.
I started following a bunch of trad wife accounts a few years ago.
I was particularly interested in this one by this woman, Bernadine Bluntly.
She would make these videos that were about how traditional roles prescribe that women should be submissive to their husbands.
Shout out to the men who do these hard jobs, who take these risks so society can function.
Soon she would have 140,000 YouTube subscribers.
Eventually, it is her income from Instagram, YouTube, an online course that she sells to young women
that sustains her, her husband, and their six children.
A couple of months ago, I noticed a new video on her feed.
I can no longer align with the Trad Movement as it exists today.
She is not the only one who is distancing herself from the Trad movement.
Recently, Narra Smith went on the Call Her Daddy podcast.
People started to compare you to Tradwife.
Yeah.
They kind of used me as the poster child for the Tradwife movement, which was very bizarre to me.
A lot of women who were recruited into the Trad movement, they were recruited when they are very young.
When they're 17, 18, a few years out, they are women who have multiple children and are starting to understand.
and that the fantasy of that life that was sold to them
is not what the reality is like.
Many women are finding that it's dangerous
if they put all of their trust,
all of their power, all of their money
in the hands of a man who abuses it.
What I found talking to these women is any of them feel like
their lives could not have gotten worse.
What I initially thought was a return to strong family values
has in many cases devolved into just control, legalism, and an online ideal that doesn't hold up in real life.
Today, Bernadine is divorced. She shares custody of her six children. Are we in a tread?
So the internet is completely fake. And I think for the most part, there is no truth, only argument.
The New York Times is lying. But this is what the internet and politics is.
Isolating a handful of women who've had bad experience and then saying, Tread, why?
is over, does not actually mean it's over. Hence, they play everyone's favorite game. She says,
is the Tradwife movement over? And I forgot the name of the law, Beringer, something like,
that any headline that asks a question can be answered with the word, no. So what the New York
Times is doing, taking a handful of accounts with bad experiences, and then trying to convince you
that women don't want to be tradwives.
At the same time, the accounts they're isolating probably were grifters in the first place.
People who are saying, I'm a tradwife because it got them followers and made them money.
This is the internet and this is the large majority of politics.
That's the unfortunate reality.
There are people who are voting based on what they current believe.
Their beliefs can change.
And you are being lied to by the media as always.
the overwhelming majority of media is not interested, and this is independent or otherwise,
they're not interested in telling you the truth.
They're interested in you agreeing with their worldview for the purpose of empowering their
worldview for some reason.
It's not all bad when I say it like that.
Somebody who thinks I need to get people to agree with me on like, you know, not transing
kids or whatever, we get as a good thing.
The question is, are you fighting for truth so that people can make these decisions?
or are you pretending? And I think the sad reality is the overwhelming majority of people have been
lying from the get go. We just sometimes overlap in what our moral worldviews are. I do believe
there is inherent good and objective evil. I don't think that lying is always evil. My point is that
there are people who believe they're justified in manipulating others because their end goals are the good
one. And this is exactly what we're seeing right now. So my point ultimately is everything's fake.
Nobody's making real arguments. And we exist in a world where the likes of the New York Times,
as well as these influencers, are trying to manipulate you for some reason, largely to make money.
And I wish you good look. Well, I mean, the New York Times criticizing the Tradwife movement
is not in any way a surprise to anybody, right? Like this particular woman, I assume that she probably
considers herself a feminist. Any kind of.
kind of narrative that tells young women, hey, maybe it's good to have a family. Maybe it's good to
have a, you know, a husband. That's something that the progressive, you know, movement has been
kind of against for as long as I can remember. Particularly when she's saying there, she's basically,
you know, trotting out all of the old arguments against marriage, you know, oh, you could be with an
abusive man. You should, you're, you're going to be beholden to him and you're going to have to,
you're not going to have any money and blah, blah, blah, you should get your career first.
These are all old tropes that the feminist movement has been telling young women forever.
And so this is just rehashing the same old arguments and using, you know, a couple people that had a bad experience as the, you know, the example.
Yeah, I mean, all the trad wives aren't talking about it.
All the actual traditional women, like, don't have an online presence.
They're just married with kids.
But the New York Times goal here is just to push feminism.
I was going to say, I think earlier I said something about I didn't think that the mainstream media was brainwashing.
And you watched this and I said to you in the middle, is that a journalist?
I mean, if you think about how that's structured, how this preachy woman is laying out this argument.
And as you say, it's totally fake.
But you don't even know how fake it is.
I mean, it's and yet it's effective.
How many times is that viewed?
I mean, it's probably, uh, well, it's got 160,000 likes.
So probably a lot of views.
Right.
Yeah.
And they know what they're doing.
I mean, again, they know what they're doing.
I mean, again, they know what they're doing and influencing people.
And, you know, here we are with New York Times.
You know, I think that shows like this are just, the wins caught us the right time
because almost everybody I meet is knowingly lying.
Like when Kyla pretended to have a fight with me so that it's like they were like,
wait, you're not playing the grift.
I'm so confused.
Like, you can just lie about what's going on.
And I would play along for the purpose of getting.
views. People start fake beef on the internet to get attention to get views. And I think I got to be
honest, a small account on one hand, the amount of shows that I think are actually trying to be
honest. And the rest are just trying to figure out to maximize audience size and make money.
Yeah. It's it's unfortunate, but you know, you're going to see this kind of pushback from the left.
And that's the entirety of this Instagram real, in my opinion.
It's a way to strike at women that think, hey, you know, I should do traditional things.
But, you know, to Tate's point, like actual trad wives, like they're not really on the internet doing that stuff.
They're taking care of their family.
They're doing actually traditional stuff, not being, you know, social media influencers.
Yeah, well, they have like 20 bodies, so they're cleaning up the crime scene with the aesthetic.
Yeah.
That's what's, I mean, that's seriously what's going on.
all these women, I bet, yeah, they're probably like divorced, and now they got to like, you know,
recreate themselves or whatever.
Half of them probably weren't even calling themselves tradwives before, but now they're coming
out on the other side and they're like, yeah, that's exactly.
Well, like that, yeah, the second one, she's like, I used to be a tradwife.
No, she's probably just saying that because it gets views.
Guys, go on Instagram and just swipe the carousel and you will probably see in one hour,
300 accounts of people that may have well have just posted, please follow me.
It's insane.
and it really makes me want to go live in a van down by the river.
Didn't the one girl say she had like a baby at 18 and now she's 36 and something's like,
how long has a trad wife been like popularized like this?
And also what are they trying to achieve by like, you know, trying to make people not want to have more children?
I don't get it.
Well, this is like I said, this is just the same feminist tropes that have been, you know, tried it out forever.
It's the, you know, you could get into a bad relationship.
You need to get a career first.
You can, you can wait to have kids, et cetera, et cetera.
And for a long time, you heard women saying, look, I regret, or you've heard women, you know, saying,
I regret the fact that I didn't have kids when I was young.
And now I'm 35 and I can't find a man that wants to settle down or that wants to have children with me.
Or, you know, I froze my eggs and now I'm, you know, in my 40s and we're having
problems actually having a kid and et cetera.
these are all real things that women are experiencing.
And yes, there are some women that end up in bad marriages or whatever that does happen.
But it doesn't change the fact that young women, if they actually do want a family,
the best time to do it is when you're young because that's when you're most,
when you're most likely to be able to conceive.
That's just, you know, the other thing, too, is if we got rid of no fault divorce,
this woman would not be divorced.
People just had to, you know, like, work hard for their families.
and it was expected in society.
Yeah, we're like dating, you're practicing divorce.
So every time you break up,
because these people typically will date for like three or four years
and then break up.
And it's like you've just like thrown away three to four years of something with someone
and people typically engage in all the behaviors that were historically reserved for a marriage.
Now it's part and parcel.
So you're like primed for divorce already.
So it really is no, you know, no wonder why this tends to happen.
Because ex-trad wife is really like redundant thing to say.
You're just a divorced woman.
Like, presumably the marriage that you were in did feature like gender dynamics.
You can't get away.
There's no such thing as like a truly like egalitarian marriage.
Like, yeah, there's probably some aspects that the males like to do and the females like to do.
And that doesn't overlap.
So then you can go back and say, well, I was in a trad wife.
It's just like, yeah, it's just very redundant.
They probably don't really have much reach because I don't think any women are aspiring to be trad wives.
are just aspiring to be wives with children.
And if that is now traditional, so be it.
But these women that are actually like, you know, like my fiance, I would say she probably
possesses fairly traditional values.
But she doesn't have those because the internet told her to do so.
It's just like she's a woman that's like naturally, I'm not a trad husband.
I'm just like aspiring to have children.
I guess that makes you traditional now.
So yeah, this is like just because we're in such a horrific gender.
zeitgeist right now. I guess these terms do
possess meaning, but they really didn't
10 years ago. Like, Tradwife wasn't
invented. It's just gender
dynamics, marriage, dating, etc., broke
down so much, and now we had to invent a term
for someone that possesses natural
gender roles. And I think that's really
the more important story in all of this.
Yep.
It's all fake and gay.
Well, yeah, I mean, that sums up
what Tate was saying. Like, the idea
of Trad Wife is actually fake.
Right? Like, it was just
normal up until
1965 or whenever they invented
the birth control pill.
Which is why back to my initial point, which is someone that is
openly identifying as a tried wife, they're
possessing these aesthetics, but they're posting
online likely indicates they're hiding something or they're trying to cover up
they're trying to overcompensate for something that happened
in the past. And that's why like, yeah, these people
that are engaging in this way, I'm sure there's
outliers. I mean, I can't think of any, but I'm sure there are
that are like online tradwife influence.
influencers. But yeah, if they possess that desire to like, you know, shout to the rooftops,
how great this lifestyle is, they're probably juxtaposing it with something in their past that
wasn't traditional. And that's why all of a sudden I've discovered this traditional aesthetic and
I'm going to make it my whole thing. Because likely what happened in the past wasn't traditional,
and so they have that contrast in their head where most women that you would, you know, classify as
tradwives or whatever, they've been traditional their whole life. So they don't have this like
past a juxtapose it to so it doesn't occur to them to call themselves
trad wives. And so, yeah, like when you see women identifying this way or, you know, have this
like almost minstrel act of how a woman, you know, traditional woman ought to act, you should
like evaluate them with like serious suspicion and scrutiny because there's likely something
going on there. And we've seen countless, you know, how many times have we seen?
The trad wife turns out to not be so traditional with the way she's carried herself.
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People will need to be ready for knocks on their door.
I mean, you mentioned it.
Could you outline some of the victories you had on the time?
Well, the big one guys that I'm really, I'm glad we came back around to it is in
1992 there was a law pass that said you could apply.
if you lost your Second Amendment rights, you could apply and get them back.
Because there are now, today, up to 30 million people who have what's called a disability on their Second Amendment rights.
If you were discharged from the military, if you had various offenses, including convictions, you'd lose your Second Amendment rights.
92, it passes.
All these years later, we never got it implemented.
It was defunded by the left.
Senator Feinstein made it her life's goal to defund it.
George W. Bush never got it done.
Trump, one, never got it done.
in the last about 15 months we implemented the program and it opened up and so there are like I said 30 million people that could apply to get their rights back second amendment rights back
likely number is probably 5 million that would be eligible you know if you're in prison for a double murder using a gun you're not going to get your second amendment rights back but uh so that's what ongoing and if you go the website that we started with justice dot gov slash ffrr federal firearms rights restoration so justice dot gov slash ffrr and you can see
the program that's been implemented.
It's in three stages. One kicked off last month.
Another one will start the day after election day.
And then the doors will be totally open on January 1st for as many people that can apply.
You apply.
It gets reviewed and you get your rights back.
And I will say President Trump made it a priority.
When I was in DOJ, I was told do this.
And then Todd Blanche, who's now the AG, made a priority.
And so we've got it done.
And it's pretty cool.
It's pretty awesome.
The response is great.
You know, the two or three weeks ago, we had some pardons of, I never say his last name right.
Tate Adamiak, one of the guys that was the Navy guy that was convicted of ridiculous charges under Biden.
Those were completely, they were, they were, there was no law broken.
And he was sentenced to like 24 years or something crazy.
But anyway, but a couple other guys in there.
And we've been on the March, I think, on Second Amendment, the jurisprudence in the DOJ.
The Solicitor General is a guy named John Salis.
He does a great job on that.
So to some of the other folks.
So there's a lot of positive happening around the Second Amendment.
I did an interview last night, and I said to somebody,
I think it's more necessary than ever at this moment in history,
maybe back to the revolution because you just need stability in the society.
And when you see what I saw, which is I looked at the emails of Lisa Monaco,
I looked at Jack Smith's inbox.
These people were targeting Americans.
They had real.
plans to target Americans, to destroy Americans. This was not like, oh, should we debate the
marginal tax rates? This was, we're going to put you in that gulag in D.C. We're going to make up
the law that we use to get you. And so getting your Second Amendment rights back if you can,
you know, and I tell people, you get out of prison having served your time. You get your
First Amendment rights back automatically. You can speak whatever you want. You can assemble whatever
you want. And so you ought to, all these years of chipping away at it, we have not had that
back and we should and we're going to have them.
Actually, I want to talk to you about that with the last few minutes before we go with the uncensored
show.
You saw political weaponization targeting what adversaries of Biden or what?
The biggest one that I saw, there's two ways to answer that.
The first one is when I became U.S. Attorney, I wanted to know, I called it the 1512 project,
echoing the 1619 project.
I said, I want to know why we charged in this office, in the U.S. Attorney's Office, the 1512
charge because it's called obstruction.
of official proceeding, and it's meant to be about evidence tampering, not going to the
electoral college and somehow disrupting the count, which is what they said. And what you discover
in there is it went all the way up to Lisa Monaco's desk. She was the dag at the time, and it was
basically a lie. And once that was done, once the decision was made to use that lie, because if you
trespass into the Capitol, that's a trespass. It's a misdemeanor. And no one's getting held on a
misdemeanor. You had to put the felony of 1512 on it to make these guys go to jail and rot in jail
for years and years. So my point in the 1512 project, which is a document that exists, it shows the
trail and it shows the capital siege unit was targeting people to put them in jail. Ray Epps wasn't
targeted. Ray Epps was given a walk. Why? Well, that's a good question. It's a good question. Keep
asking. I mean, well, we've been asking for, yeah, went on almost six years now. I think we're just
We're resigned to the fact that Trump is not going to give us use any real power to tell people what's going on.
Well, okay, fair enough.
This is why people are checked out for the midterms too.
Well, I mean, you can be checked out if you want, but you have to know who your enemy is.
I mean, and I'm describing to you what we saw and what we know.
On the Jack Smith, Jack Smith decided that his vision for what to do to Trump was to put Trump at the center of a 250 to 300-person trial.
In the 1990s in Sicily, they had what was called maxi trials.
They tried 260 defendants.
They built special courthouses, and the trials went on for two years, and they broke the mafia that way.
That's what Jack Smith was doing, and he was willing to roll up guys and gals in the alternate electors they were called.
Do you remember those?
And roll them up into this massive thing and destroy them all.
Those people were not even political types.
You were like the deputy, the vice chair of the county party in which,
Wisconsin was asked to sign as an alternate elector, and they were rolling up.
And that was Jack Smith's vision, was to put Trump at the middle and roll this thing up and
do it in D.C. And if they'd gotten it in D.C. and district court there, you wouldn't have
been able to control the jury. Why hasn't action been taken against any of these people?
Well, I mean, Jack Smith is, he didn't do anything illegal. He did something that was,
in my mind, you know, completely unprecedented.
Malicious prosecution? He didn't get to, well, you could do it, maybe, but it's hard to do.
I mean, look, I would have done malicious prosecution against a,
Do you think it was malicious prosecution?
I think that Jack Smith got beat at the courthouse enough that by the time he gets to Trump, he drops down to just Trump, you can make a case that that was malicious prosecution.
I think any reasonable person, even a liberal, but you see, the argument from the liberals is that we want to win.
So, of course, they're not going to succeed to this.
Any reasonable person who looks at the facts of the case is going to say, oh, yeah, they've weaponized the legal system.
okay well we're going to elect you Trump give you all three branches of government right right here's
your opportunity and he went no and so now i'm being asked to vote in the midterms again and i'm just
tired you know to be fair like i said look we're we're in riley moore's district so we're chilling
he's going to win i want to make sure he wins i'm very happy he does a great job but as for the
republicans what hope do i have when all of that stuff happened right and they don't do anything
about it the weaponization they they they tried to do that fund right yeah to for people
who were targeted and it got stopped.
They can't seem to get anything done.
So it's like, okay, maybe it's not the way for us to push back against evil people.
Well, a couple answers to that.
The weaponization fund was a stupid way to go about it.
And that was not what most of us were advocating.
That doesn't answer your question in the sense that it did blow up.
The second thing I would say is, look, the deep state is real.
And I will tell you that the forces, we got in on day one and we fired a lot of people.
But we did not go far enough.
you ask me what what is the necessary vision for the future it's finished the job i i would say
we have to finish the job meaning we did a lot of stuff to start and we didn't get enough done
i concede it what was stopping the trump doj from going after these people oh i'm describing it
to you all kinds of layers of of bureaucrats and others who say not now it's not illegal it's
not malicious prosecution i mean there was only a handful of us that we're saying let's keep going
that way. Now you can say, well, it should be different. I'm not going to disagree with you,
but I'm going to say that's what the reality is. And, you know, back to earlier in the conversation,
you know, do you get to turn the ship around on a dime? It doesn't look like you do. Now,
you can say, well, we should have done it better. I'm not here to say, yeah or nay. I'm saying,
you know, we can't afford to let them be in charge. Well, could I ask you kind of a related question?
Because, I mean, it's kind of the same topic around like the mass deportations,
kind of themes because, you know, from my perspective, this kind of is where the energy is with Republicans.
I mean, this is for most people at the top of their list, what they want to see the Trump administration carry out.
I'm kind of wondering what your perspective is because a lot of people are sort of contesting the same thing, which is, look, Trump's trying to do one thing, but he's running up against a lot of walls regarding this.
I'm kind of wondering where your head is at on the master.
Well, I mean, look, you guys probably could tell.
I mean, I was frustrated in my role because I wanted to do more at various times.
and that's real.
I mean, I wasn't in charge of everything, and there we have it.
So, but I will just say this.
In the first 60 days, I saw progress like I'd never expected to see.
And you could say Doge was a success or failure.
If you don't know, you say it's a failure.
If you know it was a success, was it a thorough success?
No, but nothing was.
First 60 days, we did more to dismiss cases, pardon people, fire people.
Look, we pardon all the J-Sixers.
We pardon all the Face Act.
We, you know, we dismissed case after case and fired prosecutors.
What I would tell you is what I discovered was that's the tip of the iceberg, that the
people that stayed, the people that are there, and then the people in the administration
that came in in the administration become part of the system.
And everything, you know, the oxygen of the deep state is delay, slow stuff down.
It took us 15 months to implement what should have taken three months in the firearms restoration
Fireroom Rights Restoration, because there's all these layers, all these manuals, all this nonsense.
And look, if I could have gone back and done what we did in the first 60 days for the whole time, it would have been better.
But that's not what happened.
And on deportation, by the way, same deal.
You've got these judges who jam it up.
And then our side, meaning Republicans say, oh, well, we better wait.
You know, what are we going to do?
We should have defied the judges long before now.
We should have taken that showdown on judges.
We should impeach judges immediately build the case.
And when Riley Moore would vote for it, but very few Republicans would vote for impeachment.
But we have to build the case and make the argument about what these people are doing.
And because otherwise our guys go, oh, well, we can't deport.
We're negotiating against ourselves because of the federal courts.
Yeah, because like on the deportation, because you've outlined in the deep state,
but then also you have these like special interest groups as well.
They're all part of the deep state.
Yeah.
They're all, I mean, they're all wrapped up into this.
Yeah.
Again, there's not a meeting where there's not a, it's not a conspiracy.
It's a consensus.
That's the old John Birch society line.
Yeah.
That's exactly right.
There's not a meeting where they say this is how we do it.
There's a consensus that we must slow down, whoever comes in, especially Trump, and we'll use every tool we have.
And then our side doesn't have the stomach to impeach somebody.
This snooky woman, the judge in the district of Columbia, this is insanity.
And there's no stomach to use the judge.
tools in the Constitution from the Congress to just, if you just talk about impeachment, these people
lose their mind. I'll tell you a quick story. I go to the federal district court. Boasberg invites me over.
I'm the U.S. Attorney, appointed by the President of the United States, you know, all the authority.
I go to a meeting of all the federal district court judges, and Chutkin, one of the judges,
she won't even make eye contact with it. She actually speaks staring at a table like this,
staring straight ahead. I'm sitting down there because she won't make eye contact. That's how whack these
people are. And we're pretending that we can go before these courts and get a functional deal,
get something to work out. It never is going to happen. And we better realize it. Now, Tim's mad
because we didn't do more. I know. And I am too. But I'm just telling you, if you think that it's not
progress, if you think we didn't make progress, then you don't know how these things work, in my opinion.
And so this is progress and we need more. I just can tell you, Democrats winning in the fall.
here is not going to be progress. I agree, but I think the issue is Republicans don't know how to play
the game to ensure that they win. I agree. You've got what appears to be a, you know, I'll play this.
You're playing monopoly. You are watching them pull cash from the bank while they stare you in the
eyes and do it. And you're going, well, but I can't do that. I got a better one. Well, you're going to
lose. I got a better one. It's like the Geneva Convention, the rules of engagement are they get to
be armed and we have to put down our arms and let them shoot us in the head. And then we're like,
wow, these are, well, and they say, but you must abide by the Geneva Convention. You must abide
by the Geneva Convention. This is important. These are the rules. These are the rules. A grand
jury says secrecy. Jack Smith leaks on the grand jury the whole time. And no one is indicted.
He's never indicted. As people are indicted. We talk about the grand jury. And they're like,
whoa, whoa, the judges are like, this is. So I'm with you. I'm with you when you say it.
And so it's real simple. Nick Flantis is going to be president.
Well, because he's the guy saying burn the GOP to the ground for this reason.
Right.
Because he's the guy who's arguing that when you get into office, you don't play by the rules.
You go to war.
And the Republicans right now are saying, slow down there, Democrats.
Well, not all of them, but I mean, here's a problem with that.
You can wish that you could burn down the Republican Party, but you've got to have a vehicle.
You've got to pick a team and you've got to make the team better.
And when I say finish the job, what I mean by finish the job is the Republican Party has to become completely
now the America First Maga party, and that has to happen.
I want to tell you guys a story that I probably shouldn't tell you,
but I'm going to save it for the uncensored portion of the show
because we are a bit over time.
But I'm going to tell you the story anyway,
because I'm going to talk to you about my ethos
and probably why I'll never be in office.
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