Timcast IRL - Trump Official RESIGNS Over Iran War, MAGA SUPPORTS War Slams Joe Kent w/ Roseanne

Episode Date: March 18, 2026

Tim and Ian are joined by Roseanne Bar, Liv Boeree, and Jake Pentland to discuss a Trump official quitting over the War in Iran, the Media lies about Tim Pool, James Lindsay has infiltrated MAGA, the ...Senate votes to approve debate on the SAVE Act, an ex-Biden Staffer Slams Democrats for refusing to fix crime, and asylum seekers attack a woman. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) | https://graphene.movie/ Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guests: Roseanne Barr @therealroseanne (X) | https://www.roseannebarr.com/ Liv Boeree (X) @Liv_Boeree Jake Pentland  ⁨@roseannebarr⁩  (YouTube) Podcast available on all podcast platforms! Trump Official RESIGNS Over Iran War, MAGA SUPPORTS War | Timcast IRL w/ Roseanne For advertising inquiries please email sponsorships@rumble.com

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Starting point is 00:00:48 Go to eat IQbar.com and enter code bar 20 to get 20% off all IQ bar products plus free shipping. Again, go to eat IQ bar.com and enter code bar 20. announced his resignation today, citing Israel pressuring the United States into the Iranian war, saying he cannot support this, and that he was backing Donald Trump because Trump said no new wars. However, many people who support Donald Trump pointed out that Joe Kent said Trump was right in the past about Iran being a threat, and even he pointed out that Iran was trying to kill Donald Trump, something like a year and a half ago. So, of course, this has been quite contentious with the media saying that MAGA is breaking apart. And then my favorite was when Nicole Wals and MSNBC, I'm sorry, MS now, said Tim Poole called Pete Exeth a war criminal, for which I absolutely have never done.
Starting point is 00:01:38 And they should apologize and retract that statement. These people are liars. And then to make it worse, the independent wrote that Tim Dillon said actually what I said. Because apparently me and Tim Dillon are interchangeable, which is not correct. But hey, there's only two, there's only one Tim allowed in podcasting, I guess. And it's going to be one of us because the media can't figure. out what's going on. So we're going to talk about that and basically this is the big news, but there is news on the SAVE Act that has advanced in the Senate. And that means largely nothing.
Starting point is 00:02:05 It means they've decided they're going to vote on it. They voted to vote on it. Congress is a waste of time. I'm sorry. Criminal, criminal. They've let us down and it is, it is presumed that they will not pass the SAVE. We'll talk about that. And then another bombshell from Nick Shirley tracking fraud in California. And he shows up to hospice care facilities where there's no people and everyone's fleeing as soon as they see him. And it looks like, or at least he's reporting, he's uncovered a lot more fraud to the tune of $170 million. And sure enough, Gavin Newsom is attacking him for doing so. I think actually on top of that, I can add a former Biden advisor saying outright that Democrats have destroyed our cities after 200 teenagers in Washington, D.C.,
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Starting point is 00:04:53 They are, yes. So what do you do? I work for my mother. I'm her literal handler. What's your name? Jake Pentland. We do the only mother's son podcast that I know of, certainly with a celebrity on it. We do it out of our house in Blanco every week, every Friday.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You've been on there. Indeed. So you're not really, Massad. I can't say if I am or not. Okay, good. Sounds like the mystery is ruined. Okay, just keep, leave it. And Roseanne's hanging out.
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Starting point is 00:05:25 And who are you and what do you do? Former pro poker player, now I'm a podcaster. Indeed. Of course we got Ian hanging out, but let's just, uh, let's jump in the news. Everyone knows who you are, Ian. You don't, you know... Too late. Got a cane in a top hit.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Joe Kent, a top US counter-terrorism official, resigns over the Iran war. Mr. Kent is the highest ranking Trump administration official to quit in opposition to the conflict. He is also known for his support of conspiracy theories. theories. One of the U.S.'s top counterterrorism officials resigned on Tuesday setting his opposition into the war in Iran, and what he said was Israel's influence over the Trump administration's policies, a sign of emerging divisions in the Republican coalition. The official Joe Kent is the first senior member of the administration to quit over the war. The seemingly open-ended nature of the U.S. Israeli war in Iran has created strong divisions among Mr. Trump supporters, an anti-interventionist
Starting point is 00:06:14 wing of the coalition, which supported President Trump because of his criticism of long overseas conflicts has quickly become uneasy with the war, which has lasted 18 days with no immediate sign of ending. Quote, I cannot in good conscience support this ongoing, support the ongoing war with Iran. Mr. Kent wrote, Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful America lobby. Now, I will say outright, those that identify as MAGA and Republicans overwhelmingly support Trump and this war. And even people who were never Trumpers overwhelmingly support Trump and this
Starting point is 00:06:53 war. The issue is arising among moderates, individuals who are not Republicans who shifted to the Republican Party to support Trump. We are now seeing that drift away. But I'm curious what you guys think. You in favor of this? How do you feel about Joe Ken's resignation? There's also libertarians of it, right? Oh, the libertarians are furious. I mean, Dave Smith's been going off. Well, I mean, America and its ally, Israel, are taking out the threat to our freedom, our liberty, our future, you know, our safety, women's rights, children's rights, and a destructive octopus that seeks to control everything on earth. So yay, I'm glad they both got their balls back and stopped listening to Lib Tards tell them, oh, no, America doesn't want to get involved and all
Starting point is 00:07:52 that bullshit that only the blindest, most ignorant people on earth would say at this time. That's my opinion. I was talking with Dan Holloway a couple days ago about friendship and alliances. They're not the same thing. You can be deeply allied with someone that you can't stand that you think is egregiously awful human that's a traitor and evil, but you have a great alliance with them because there's a purpose. I think that's sort of what's going on with Israel and the United States, whether you like the people or not or like what they're doing or not. Setting up and patrolling the Suez Canal
Starting point is 00:08:28 and the trade routes and the land bridges and stuff is very important for the world order that we know, that we've come to all grow up in. And the straight of Hormuz, too. I mean, the fact that Trump is remaking the entire world. I mean, he really, really, really, really. is and bringing down the control mechanism that keeps all the wars going and starts all the new ones too Trump is putting it into checkmate and I love that and by that I mean standard oil I mean the British so there's there's a few added points to bring up now especially the response from the Trump administration Carolyn Levitt etc and many others Tulsi Gabbard put out a statement saying that Donald Trump assessed the intelligence that she provided and determined there was an imminent threat from Iran.
Starting point is 00:09:20 She didn't issue a personal opinion on this for which people are criticizing her because she has previously sold t-shirts saying no-or with Iran. But more importantly, the administration is saying that Joe Kent had been cut off from intel related to Iran for leaking information. And they were quite upset about this. So he had been cut off from these meetings, which many people find shocking because he's one of the heads of counterterror. And they were so concerned about him potentially leaking that they did not include. include him in these meetings, then he ultimately resigns. I'm going to go ahead and say, I think this is, I think there's more personal issues here than most people are seeing on the surface. I do too. Joe Kent previously, and look, he's been on the show several times. I got no personal
Starting point is 00:09:59 issues with the guy. He had previously stated that Iran was trying to kill Trump. Clearly that would indicate an imminent threat. We on this show with many, many prominent individuals, even anti-Israel individuals. We asked the question, if Iran succeeded in assassinating Donald Trump, should we go to war with them? Of course. What would you say? Yes? Yes. Yes. Yes. Unquestionably. Right. And this was well before we engage in a military entanglements. Like if Iran's, so we're talking about an imminent threat to the United States and you have an assassination plot that even Joe Kent agrees with. I find it then interesting when he comes out and says, this is wrong and Israel is influencing us. They pose no immediate threat. Perhaps he would make the argument that upon assessment of the internal intelligence, there is no assassination
Starting point is 00:10:42 threat against Donald Trump. Maybe that's the case. Considering we've already seen a couple, and an individual who I believe was, he was Pakistani, but apparently funded by Iranians, there is a threat that has been reported quite a bit. That would indicate a threat. Then there are others that would say, well, our bases and our allies in the region being threatened by militia groups and the Houthi rebels, it's a direct threat to us from Iran. In which case, I think that this is largely lacking nuance. Well, they've killed our soldiers too. For a long time now, repeatedly in the region.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I would just stress that based on what we're hearing internally, and there's a lot of rumors, stuff that I can't necessarily report because I don't know how true it is, but they started fighting a while back, Joe Kent and others in the administration, resulting in, let's just call it, you know, a personal rift. And now he's come out and seemingly has an opinion counter to what he had previously stated. Sounds to me like he got iced out. Yes. So he's supposed to be this official.
Starting point is 00:11:41 He's supposed to be brought in. He didn't win his congressional seat. They say for whatever reason they don't want him involved, maybe it's because they think his opinions on going to war are bad. So they cut him out. Maybe it's because he's leaking. Seems like he gets upset about it. Makes the issue about Israel when it seems like he was intending to leave the whole time.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I was going to say, it's funny you say that because when I heard the story earlier today, I go, this sounds like very similar. I hope you don't get mad of me. But what happened with Whitney Cummings, on the reboot of Roseanne, she was not asked back. A lot of people don't know this. She worked on the show. Her contract wasn't picked up.
Starting point is 00:12:13 She was essentially fired because she was just, you know. Well, not renewed. Right, which is in Hollywood. So this sounds to me like what happens in Hollywood a lot, where there's a falling out personal, you're fired, and to save face, you give that person an opportunity to either transition or say something like, I knew to go. Whitney did that.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Whitney left and said, I have to leave because of Roseanne's Right, but they didn't cut a deal with Joe Kent on this one. No, but he took this on his own. This is my theory. Indeed. Yeah, 100% and he's like, oh, I'll go with the anti-Israel shit because that's hot right now. And this will save face. But I was obviously out anyway because they weren't happy with it.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah, I think I described the anti-Israel stuff as a mass formation psychosis. Yeah, it is. Absolutely. I would say this. And I would assume you guys would disagree to a certain extent. But I think Israel has outsized influence on U.S. foreign policy. I think they have outsized influence on our Congress. And I think the U.S. tries to cater to Israel,
Starting point is 00:13:06 for the benefits it gets with the Suez Canal, the Red Sea, as well as our conflicts in the region. But that's a small portion. It's a large chunk of, but ultimately it is a minority of U.S. foreign policy. They got nothing to do with Greenland, Taiwan, Panama. They got nothing to do with Hawaii or the Chinese Atolls or Australia. They've got nothing to do with South Korea. They have their interests. They influence us. But the U.S. largely tolerates it, one, because you've got evangelicals that support the messianic vision for Zion. But then you also just have the military industrial complex. saying, we want access to the region. We want weapons in the region. And we have a, it's not just a
Starting point is 00:13:41 military base. It is a country for which the U.S. can house weapons. Absolutely. Well, it's not just that. I mean, it's a Western ally. It's an outlying Western, you know, philosophy there. Well, it's partly a Western creation. For one thing, women's rights and civil rights. And, you know, it's a, although they say apartheid, It's the most integrated place I've ever seen in my life. It's funny because you see a lot of people, liberals, leftists, you know, gay rights for Palestine or whatever, you know. And it's like, no, that's actually Israel. If you go to Israel, they're going to let you leave your life.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Not Palestine or these other countries. No, they throw you off a roof. Indeed. Who said rooftoppers? Who was that? I don't know. But what's really irksome to me is we have been tracking foreign policy on this. show since the show's inception i've been tracking it on my other morning my other channels my morning
Starting point is 00:14:40 show since i've been doing media content i i've been i was in egypt during the the revolution i have a certain degree of experience less so than many others but we have been tracking u.s oil interests in the region on this show i'm i've been doing my whole life because of the iran i'm sorry the iraq war and the and the war in afghanistan and iran is a component of this because they disrupt the liberal economic order in the petro dollar system. What's irksome to me is that there are people who have watched this show and have learned everything about Joe Biden's illicit dealings with Burisma in Ukraine because they're competing with Russia for natural gas. The removal of Bashar al-Assad has to do with getting natural gas into Europe. And then one day in the past six months for seemingly no reason,
Starting point is 00:15:24 all of that gets ripped from their minds like they're pulling it out with a magic wand and Harry Potter and it gets replaced by actually everything's been Israel the whole time. ignoring Joe Biden, sending his son, we presume, to be a board member on with a CIA director of an energy company in Ukraine to offset Russia's gas prom gas monopoly. Now they go, no, it's Netanyahu. And I'm like, he literally has nothing to do with what's going on up there. They did that with 9-11 too in the inside. Of course, of course. Everything is replacing it with the Jews.
Starting point is 00:15:54 It's like this catch-all. It's like the flat earth. I think it's perfect conspiracy. People are just desperate to have a simple answer to really, really complex, scary problems. Yes. It's what all conspiratorial thinking is. I mean, some conspiracies are real, but people just want to be able to have something they can point out.
Starting point is 00:16:11 They would rather live under a scary world-domineering cabal as an idea than decentralized chaos, even though the reality is I agree. I think they would rather resurrect medieval lies than actually know who's in charge of what, because they wouldn't like to know the truth. They absolutely would not like to know the truth. What is the truth? Well, the truth is that the royal British empire is behind all of it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Oh, no. Let's go. Let's do it. Tell me about it this time. And that is what Trump has, you know, pretty much kicked in the guts of. And that's because of Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein and all the banks of city of London. That's what's really coming.
Starting point is 00:16:59 down. And of course, Iran is a great, you know, money laundering center of all of that. And it sells it, you know, 20 percent of its gas to China. So Trump has put them all including Cuba. He's put their whole network that nobody ever talks about because they don't want to know the truth of how it's just British imperialism. Standard oil is a better word for it than British imperialism. They'll go anywhere for the oil. They'll make up fake states all over the world and then sell weapons at both sides of every skirmish because they make money for their stock markets housed in Basel, Switzerland, at the Bank of International Settlements, where they decide and fund every war because they make money on war.
Starting point is 00:17:51 They are the military, industrial, pharma, whatever, medical, every, they are. They are consolidated raw power. And they are royal. And, you know, come on. But which... Oh, I go one. Which members of the British royal family? Because maybe I could see that being true, like, 80 plus years ago,
Starting point is 00:18:12 when all this stuff was kicked off. But from what I can tell, the British royal family is pretty damn neutered. They're not doing much. That's because of President Trump. No, they were... Well, hold on. Actually, this could explain why everything's kind of falling apart. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:18:27 They're neutered. Right, no, but I think they were the new to like 20, 30 years ago, long before Trump, long before Trump. And in the past 20 or 30 years, things have been degrading internationally and financial policy. It's more complex than that. Again, it's like we do, same issue that the anti-Semites are making, blaming Jews for everything. We need to be careful not to fall into the same. No, we can easily blame the banks of the city of London, absolutely. I think that's more true.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I agree with that more than the royal family specifically. But the royal family, you know, is. the front office for that. Let's be real. I think it's involved. It has historic, yes, it has tendrils everywhere, but it's just there's no one I think competent enough to be doing that. Most of them are just sort of like they're in a kind of retirement home generally, the entire royal family. The, the, the prominent members, like the royals of this world own the central bank of all central bank. Which royals? It's a raw, all royals. Not just UK.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Not just UK. Okay, maybe. And they're all related to each other, too. There's about 13 families of them. Let's jump to this next door. We've got this to get back on to the Joe Kent story. This is from the independent. They say even right-wing podcasters are using Joe Kent's resignation as proof of the fractured MAGA movement.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Oh, boy, I love this. It says, quote, the MAGA coalition is shattered. Tim Dillon, host of the Timcast, wrote on X in response to Kent's announcement. Trump can say, I am MAGA all he wants, and it may be true, but law support means MAGA is meaningless. Heaven's me. Tim Dillon, what did you say? And then we have this clip from MS now. Listen to this. They're daily fair. And so these people matter because gone are the days when endorsements or normal political things make a difference in an election or issues, heaven forbid. These people were talking about are why Trump wins the second time. And for Tim Poole, who's one of them to call Higgs at a war criminal,
Starting point is 00:20:28 let's not breeze past that. It's not nothing. It's not nothing, and it's important. But it kind of goes back to a slightly earlier part of the conversation we talked. Never. In my life, have I called Pete Hagseth a war criminal. That was Tim Dillon. It was Tim Dillon.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So apparently, if you have a show with the name Tim in it, you are the same person all the time. And so I have called on MS now to issue a retraction and apology for that egregious lie. Secretary of War Pete Hagsath is a gentleman and a scholar. I know a lot of people don't like him, but I have a tremendous respect for him, though I do have reservations about our involvement in Iran. I am not going to be hard extreme on one side of the other for the sake of attracting viewership or otherwise. I'm going to tell you the truth.
Starting point is 00:21:19 And the truth is this. The MAGA coalition is fractured. Now, does that mean that MAGA is broken or dead? No. It means that the group of people that refer to them as MAGA still do. The group of people that refer to themselves as Republicans still do and they still support Donald Trump and what is going on. But we've got poll after poll showing that independents are breaking from Trump over this issue. With Tim Dillon being a good example. But more importantly, he's always been kind of anti-Trump, Joe Rogan as sort of this representation of the middle ground,
Starting point is 00:21:53 regular guy. U-Gov says more independence disapprove of how Trump is handling Iran than did so last week. It is getting bad among independents. They're idiots. I mean, they're just complete idiots. Independent voters? Well, no, the people you mentioned, I mean, do they really think that it's up to them that they have a choice of who's going to kill their ass or not? I mean, they're stupid. Of who's going to who's going to kiss whose ass? Kill their ass. Kill them. I mean, okay. You know, I really don't think we should enter this war with Iran. Iran's going to kill you. You don't have a choice. But how would Iran strike the United States? I understand our military assets in the region, and I understand shutting down oil trade in the Gulf. But to the contiguous United States, I don't see Iran being a threat.
Starting point is 00:22:45 You don't think that anyone came over here during the Biden years from that part of the world. to form cells for terror that are just waiting for some kind of a queue. So then we need domestic reinforcement to weed them out. Striking Iran doesn't change that. In fact, it would trigger the sleeper cells, which is what we're concerned about. No, I don't think so. So the sleeper cells would attack.
Starting point is 00:23:12 They won't attack us if we attack Iran or they will attack us if we attack Iran. They will attack us the closer we get to the midterms. But because Democrats like the chaos to cover. you know, they're cheating. But we don't have a choice, in my mind, in my opinion. America doesn't have a choice whether to enter into war with Nazi Germany or not. What do you mean by that? Because Iran is Nazi Germany.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And if they get a nuclear weapon, which they probably already have, there's nuke's missing. I mean, they've got to be taken out that regime, not the Iranian people, who I love. I love them. But I will stand by that independent voters are not happy with it. They are breaking from Trump. We've seen more than one poll showing this. And this means the Republicans in the midterms are in serious danger. Now, if the Republicans believe this is truly justified,
Starting point is 00:24:07 they have not sold it effectively to the swing voter. That's true. Then Democrats are going to get in. They are going to be pro-Iran. They're going to shut everything down. Trump's going to lose power. He'll be constrained, and then all of this is for not. I don't think so. I think Trump is smarter than almost everybody put together. I really do. I trust him. I think he's really smart. I like how he's playing some kind of a chess game with various countries.
Starting point is 00:24:36 And he has removed the power, the cult power, in a lot of places that add up to being in America's favor. and I think he is trying to rid the West of its genocidal enemies, and they're everywhere. And I think it does start in Iran. And also, I think the more time goes on, and we hear more about China's involvement with Iran and Venezuela and all these things about our elections. I think people, by the midterms, are going to get it. They're going to get it better than they do now, and I think that the economy is going to go up by then, too. I want to segue with this a little bit into the podcaster feuding and says that's going on, and I know you guys were eager to talk about James Lindsay earlier.
Starting point is 00:25:35 So he had a post in response to my post, to which I said, the MAGA coalition is shattered. Trump can say, I am MAGA all he wants, and it may be true, but law support means MAGA is meaningless. Let me explain what I mean by that. Trump won 49.8% of the vote in 2024, and he succeeded. with the help of libertarians and disaffected liberals. These people are breaking. Dave Smith was the frontrunner for the Libertarian Party. He decided not to run for office because he had family concerns and security concerns.
Starting point is 00:26:02 They ended up nominating a gay communist for the Libertarian Party, and so these libertarians broke and voted for Donald Trump. Trump came and spoke the Libertary Convention. But most of these people, even Clint Russell, who was running to be VP, I believe not with Dave, but he was running to be VP. It was going to be with Dave. he is very very not critical of Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:26:21 He is losing this coalition, which was never just Republicans. Now, obviously, it's fair to say, as I've covered on my channel and this show, Republicans overwhelmingly support this. Former never-Trumpers are now pro-Trumpers, and the core Republican MAGA base is 100% behind Trump on this. So they're enjoying about 90% support. But again, Joe Rogan's been relatively critical. He says some people feel betrayed. You've got Dave Smith, who's come out very heavy against Trump over this. And that's a small percentage indeed of what of Trump's overall vote.
Starting point is 00:26:52 But if MAGA doesn't have this coalition, the the well-organized Democrat machine will succeed. Because the right's going to be worn down. Now, James Lindsay responded to my post saying, ha-ha podcasters showing that yes, Republicans support Trump. But this is not a poll about the coalition of former liberals, libertarians, the politically disaffected in general and Republicans together. it is literally just highlighting that Trump supporters and Republicans overwhelmingly support Donald Trump. Now, I will stress this. Even among MAGA supporters, he's got 6% disapproval, and among Republicans, 12% disapproval, which again, if the election were held today at those numbers with a loss of independence and with double-digit loss of Republicans, Kamala Harris, she only lost by about
Starting point is 00:27:40 one point, like 1.4 points in the popular vote. Don't get me wrong, she lost every single swing state. But she would have taken the popular vote at least. And this, she's a terrible candidate, by the way. So they were not going to win. But this is apocalyptic for the midterms. James Lindsay is doing this, in my opinion, to manipulate as is his MO and always has been. Infiltrate a group, convince them to say stupid things. That way you disrupt their support base.
Starting point is 00:28:08 So Trump supporters who are following this guy and believe what he is saying are going to lose the midterms. when I would like to point out my intention has always been to adequately inform you of what is going on. And if you're a Trump supporter and you are a diehard MAGA and you want Trump to win, you need to pay attention to the fact that independent voters are breaking from Trump over this. And if you follow James Lindsay, he is lying to you to lull you into a false sense of security to believe that Trump is doing better than ever and can't lose because then the libs are going to win in the midterms and they're going to cut Trump's power off. I love James Lindsay. You and I have, we've never thought about it, but we've talked about it quite a few times. He is the one that, by all accounts, termed woke right? Like, that's the thing that he made it an incomprehensible term that cannot be used in any meaningful way. So there was a woke right that was used among disaffected liberals to describe an element of the right that have a mass formation psychosis and believe in critical theory and oppressed versus oppressor and things of this nature. And then James Lindsay infiltrated.
Starting point is 00:29:12 destroyed that and now it's an incomprehensible term that you cannot use to describe anything meaningful. Well, the reason I ask you that is because a lot of the independents and libertarians that are leaving the party, I see a correlation with the woke right, whether you believe they're real or not, as the driving force behind that. And why I always defend James Lindsay because he's the one that's been calling attention to that group, because that's where I think it is split. I think the independents are leaving en masse because of Israel. Yeah. And all the woke shit, I think he's on to it. I know you and I disagree on. Lindsay, but that's why I love him because it's like, hey, these are the people that are splitting Maga.
Starting point is 00:29:46 This is an infiltration of Maga. No, James Lindsay is that? Do you think that it is beneficial to the Republican Party to be convinced that Trump is? No, of course not. So let me pull up this list that I absolutely love. Every conservative James Lindsay has called woke right. And you've got random foreigners, traditional Catholics, Christian nationalist, philosophers, miscellaneous right-wing individuals like Joshua Lysik.
Starting point is 00:30:11 His list could be incorrect, but the idea I'm talking about the woke right dividing manga. I think he's got a claim to it. I think he's right. Well, they're all Jew haters. Let me stress this. Let me stress this. Look, they're all Jew haters. I think that's what, to me, that's what woke right means. Mary Morgan works for my company and is a pop culture commentator and James Lindsay Coulter woke right. Yeah, that's incorrect. Half of this is incorrect.
Starting point is 00:30:35 I am warning you right now. The man's MO is to infiltrate groups, convince them to say. dumb things and if you are blind to the fact that he is poisoning your worldview to all of these people, all the people who follow these individuals, you're going to lose and he is intentionally doing this. You think it's an infiltration. What is he famous for? What is James Lindsay famous for?
Starting point is 00:30:57 Anti-communist. I was something like... Infiltrating feminist and Marxist academic papers to trick them into publishing incomprehensible nonsense. He is a self-admitted liberal. He does not like conservatives. he has publicly stated national conservatism is the final boss. He does not like Marxists.
Starting point is 00:31:17 He is a traditional liberal social lib. He doesn't like the Marxists and he doesn't like the conservatives. So he is infiltrating both groups to get them to say stupid things. And people just blindly march behind him. And so here we have him. Clearly he hates Donald Trump. Convincing his base. I don't know where I always hear him talking great about Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Yeah, we had them on our secret Jew meetings. The group, trick them into saying stupid things, and then they lose. That's what he always does. So now as the Iran, so I will stress this, Donald Trump is minus 6% among MAGA supporters. Not good. He has dropped four points among MAGA supporters since the last poll. And he has facing a 12% disapproval among Republicans on the issue of Iran. But what I'm saying, this is not good for Trump.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Hold on, but the point is this. You look at those numbers and you say, hey, look, 80, 87% support. That is fantastic. What they're not telling you is that the moderates who put Trump over the edge are breaking away from them. And James is intentionally, look at my point. My point is, MAGA can't win without its coalition. That's true. Democrats know this all the same.
Starting point is 00:32:35 You've got to win the middle of the road. I see what you mean. James Lindsay is a. Again, doing what he always does. He's going to lull you into a false sense of security, and with sentiment like this, the Republicans will lose the midterms. We should have James. I don't have a strong opinion on him either way,
Starting point is 00:32:51 but just an alternative hypothesis. It came to mind is that he is just a basically like a pathological contrarian and is like allergic to whoever has the dominant power. Because if we've seen him flip-flop, right? There are just some people who are like that. I would entertain that and say quite possibly, except his MO has consistently been, infiltrate organizations, trick them in as saying stupid things,
Starting point is 00:33:13 and then watch them emulate themselves. So that's how he got started. He worked, so here's what I see with this guy. And congratulations, getting more airtime. He's so desperate for it. He works in academia and he gets upset that it's being taken over by Marxist ideology. He's a social liberal. He's in a polyamorous relationship with,
Starting point is 00:33:31 and he talks about how he and his daughter go check out chicks together and stuff like this. This is a traditional social liberal view. that it's not overly leftist, you know, no trans in the kids and stuff, but sexual liberation, feminism, et cetera. The conservative movement opposes those things. He doesn't want either the Marxist or the conservatives to win. So the first thing he does is he infiltrates the Marxists, makes them look like morons by publishing Mink, but the words are feminist terminology instead of Nazi terminology. No, they're hilarious.
Starting point is 00:33:58 He read some of them to us. Indeed, and the conceptual penis. And we all laughed because he was targeting Marxists. Then he started doing the exact same thing to conservatives publicly stating, He's doing it to destroy them. But see, the thing is, he gloats at the fact that they are not smart enough to actually read what he's saying. And he talks about it. The woke right term, he said, was coined to create a catch-all to attack any conservative so he can put them under an umbrella.
Starting point is 00:34:22 He literally says this. He tweeted out that national conservatism is the final boss, not woke right, not anti-Israel. He's trying to destroy conservatism because the way he wants to live is open marriages, polyamory, and sexual liberation. And that's fine if you believe in those things. You're allowed to have those opinions. My only point is if James was an honest actor and said, I do not want a conservative Christian world. I do not want a conservative Christian country.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I want to be an open relationship. And I want to watch my daughter, you know, do or stepdaughter or whatever. I think his stepdaughter actually hates him or something. But if you want to live that world, just say it. Tricking conservatives so that they immolate themselves is despicable. Okay. Let me ask you because I'm listening to you. and I get it.
Starting point is 00:35:07 But isn't that what Tucker and Candice are doing too? Yeah. Well, the thing about Candice is that she is quoted as saying, I believe whatever the people believe. So I would say her motivations largely are she just wants to be on top of the mountain. Although I have questions about how she's married to a British Lord and her lawyers work in the same building as federal agents by her own mission. That's pretty strange.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Tucker, I find to be interesting in that he seems to have undergone a massive flip over the past several months. The thing about Tucker, though, is largely he's a guy with opinions. And if his opinions are bad, I say, then you've got bad opinions. I disagree with Tucker on a lot of things. I disagree with Dave Smith, but I'm not going to condemn someone just for having opinions. Well, do you think Tucker is trying to trick conservatives? What I would say is I lean in the direction on some things. Because he sounds like a Democrat too now. He does. I question when he said that Mossad was caught planting bombs in Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which has never been reported. There's no
Starting point is 00:36:09 indication of that ever happening, nor evidence, and it's been denied by these governments who seemingly are, you know, they have no, like, I mean, we are working the United States with these countries and Israel. So the argument then is that they're covering up for Israel. But if they're covering up for Israel, they support Mossad planting bombs. The story just doesn't make sense. Right. Then he came out and said the CIA was planning a criminal referral against them, to which the wider said, that's not true and it didn't happen. Right. So I don't know who his sources are, but they seem bad.
Starting point is 00:36:39 What I can say of Tucker Carlson right now is I disagree with him to a certain degree, but he's allowed to be critical of Israel. He's allowed to oppose the war. Of course. And apparently he has very bad sources. Now, James Lindsay, he's done this in the past. He's doing it again, and he lies about me as well. Candice Owens lies about me, very different from Tucker.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Candice Owens claimed my brother tried to kill me, which is an egregious lie. And people just believe this stuff. Yeah, I don't believe anything. So I will tell you this. There is an Israel derangement syndrome. And let me put it like this. I have gone on 20-minute tirades about the past 20 years of U.S. Middle Eastern policy
Starting point is 00:37:12 pertaining to the petro dollar. On this show with sources and facts, we've played the videos from Obama and Joe Biden. And then for some reason, in the last six months, people's brains fall out of their heads and they decided everything that we've already proven to them and exposed doesn't matter anymore. Joe Biden is innocent of all wrong doing it was Israel the whole time.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Right. So when Joe Biden gets 10% for the big guy. And Tony Bob Ulynski comes out and says they were cutting illicit deals and they have a CIA director working at an energy company in Ukraine and they removed Bashar al-Assad
Starting point is 00:37:43 because he wouldn't let us build a gas pipeline. And Tulsi Gabbard calls this out eight years ago and we have tracked these stories. And Obama was arming ISIS, well, some say inadvertently because he wanted these terror groups to destabilize the Assad regime. All of that gets erased
Starting point is 00:38:00 and they go, Israel put a Jew in control, of Ukraine to build a corridor. And I'm like, yeah, that's never been supported any of the intelligence reports, not even Russia has been claiming that or China. Like when you look at these foreign countries, like the BRICS nations, they will outright say the United States is lying about Bashar al-Assad because he would not allow them to build a gas pipeline to compete with Russia. So they armed terrorists to kill him. And they removed Muammar Gaddafi from Libya because he wanted to trade oil in goldenars and create an African Union. All of the other.
Starting point is 00:38:33 of that gets erased and now it's just Israel did it. And that's not coming from Lindsay, not to go on a James Lindsay defense store, but that's coming from Candace and Tucker. Indeed, and what does James Lindsay do when he posts things like this? Why are we not talking about the woke right? Why are you on Lindsay? Because woke right is it, because James Lindsay creates environments like this. In response to my tweet, warning Republicans that independents are breaking, this is the kind of stuff that they're posting in response to James Lindsay, equating me with the exact people you're criticizing. So why Why is it that James Lindsay is creating an environment where he's trying to loop me in with the people claiming that Israel is running the world?
Starting point is 00:39:10 Could it be that when I warn Republicans you are losing independence, James Lindsay is trying to make sure people don't listen to what I have to say? It's plausible, sure. Because James Lizzie's M.O. has always been infiltrate and destroy. And that's exactly what he's been doing and he's doing now. And I will stress this again, Woke Right is an incomprehensible term when you have Chris Rufo I was thinking of that. Chris Rufus woke right?
Starting point is 00:39:31 Chris Rufo supports Israel. I don't know who that is. Mary Morgan is on pop culture crisis. Mary Morgan comments on Timothy Shalema. No, this is the one example I'm making. No, it's a good point. Home math? Homeath doesn't even talk about this. He does commentary on feminism.
Starting point is 00:39:49 James Lindsay has attacked these people to create a catch-all term by his own admission. I've got to tell you guys again, you need to just read what he talks about. He has publicly stated the term woke right was created as a catch-all term akin to alt-right so that you can poison the well and lump everyone into the same category. Alt-right originally was coined by individual, but was used by individuals to mean an alternative to the mainstream Republican Party. And then the AP came out with the style guideline saying alt-right means white nationalist. Then retroactively, they went to people like Mike Sernovich,
Starting point is 00:40:22 who is not a white nationalist, and they found a tweet from six months before this, and then said, he admitted he's a white supremacist. This is what James Lindsay had, admitted to doings. So the term woke right. What do you what would you like us to call them? Yes. So define woke in 15 words or less. The people divide the actual people dividing maga. Who are they? So when you're referring to let's jump to. Well yeah. Sure. But that might just be the so you know if it is it is a tool. So if you've got these people right here,
Starting point is 00:40:50 which is Candace Owens, Brett Weinstein, Megan Kelly, Nick Fuentes, Dave Smith, Glenn Greenwald and Tucker Carlson. Nazis. Call them call them whatever you want. That's what I call. Woke right has become incomprehensible. thanks to James Lindsay. So when you say woke right to me, I say, stop insulting my friends. And you go, oh my God, you're friends with woke right. I say, I employ some of them. And then in your mind, you're thinking, Nick Fuentes, in my mind, I'm thinking Mary Morgan. James Lindsay did that. He made it impossible for you to identify these people because initially, moderates were pointing out a group of people that were utilizing similar thought processes, that is critical theory, the oppressor, and the idea of Jewish supremacy. But thanks to,
Starting point is 00:41:29 to specifically not Constantine, you know, and Trigonometry guys, because they've been repeatedly referring to them, but specifically James Lindsay, when you say that word, it is meaningless now. Okay. So let's come over the new word. I think woke Jew hater. Woke is almost like like Jew hater because that is what it is. And that is just a raw. That's what power does. Well, I don't think. That's what power does when it's going to get exposed. It throws Jews as raw meat to the hungry dogs in the street. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would have. I don't. I don't. I don't. I work, I'm talking about, you know, the Jews who work in banking and all that shit. Jews work for people who don't work.
Starting point is 00:42:09 That's what people do not get. The middleman gets thrown and everybody blames the middleman. Well, who's at the tippity top? Why do we never go there? Why do we never look at that? I tried. It was who owns BlackRock? I'm like, well, it's all the people that own State Street on Black Rock.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I'm like, who owns State Street? All the people that own Black Rock. And it's this cycle of owners that keep their names off the table. Maybe it's James Lindsay. Probably. Look at he published in direct response to my post. Get out of the podcastistan bubble. I do not believe that anybody who watches my show where quite literally we had on
Starting point is 00:42:45 Leonardo Joni where I said, I called her a retard. I did apologize for calling a retard. Because she blames Israel for everything. Why would James Lindsay accuse me of being woke right? Yeah, you're not woke right. Because he's trying to make the term incomprehensible. Okay. Well, I understand.
Starting point is 00:43:01 He is trying to, because he is an infiltrator. He is a liberal. I believe that he hates Jews. I believe that he, I believe he is just like the left. He hates Israel. He hates Trump. And he wants social liberalism back. He wants Pete Buttigieg to be president.
Starting point is 00:43:14 He wants Gavin Newsome. He may not like them, you know, personally. But I tell you, this is a guy who would rather have Gavin Newsom than Donald Trump. But he knows you will not win by going to someone and ask. advocating for Newsom, who's advocated for child sex changes. So if you want sexual liberation feminism, let me put it like this. The reason why this is really easy for me to point out is that when I did nonprofit fundraising, the first thing I would train as a manager and one of the best in the country,
Starting point is 00:43:41 you always must approach the individual you're trying to sell as them. Right. So if you are in downtown Chicago in the financial area and you see a guy wearing a suit and Ian walks up to him, that man's going to say, back the F off. But if you walk up to him wearing a suit and immediately reach for his hand and shake and say, sir, but a moment of your time. And you behave like a businessman, you can sell him anything. He wouldn't say that to me, by the way. He'd be like, get over here.
Starting point is 00:44:06 No, that's actually not what happened. However, if you want to go to Columbia a few blocks away and sign up college kids, don't send a guy in a suit. Send to Ian with a cane and a top hat. Because every college kid's going to stop them. James understands this. This is social engineering 101. In order to manipulate someone, you have to be them. So he approaches conservatives and says, I'm just like you.
Starting point is 00:44:26 feeds them disinformation, distorts their worldview, tricks them and disrupts. He did it to the left with the Marxist. He's doing it to the conservatives now. So I don't think woke right is Jew hate. I think that people that are woke are easily manipulated into hating Jews. I think it's a tool used, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:43 It's a tool. It's a way of kings. It's always been the tool of kings to retain power. It's divide and conquer. That's why they're a scapegoat. Woke in general, I think, is just people who are obsessed with identity as opposed to ideas. And they also conflate the underdog
Starting point is 00:45:02 with being morally correct. Right. And I think you can see that on both sides. The left obviously have been historically more doing it and arguably still more, but it's just like, yeah, it's like, identitarianism. I like identity, but I don't like when it's weaponized to hoard a whole bunch of people into voting
Starting point is 00:45:22 for something that's gonna destroy them. I am a conservative. I'm like, oh, that's so cringy. It's so you. Woke is actually very easily defined when you step back. Everybody's often had a different definition for it. I've defined it as cult-like adherence to social orthodoxy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I think it's a much easier way to explain it. And woke represents the cultural identity of left. There are two cultural identities in the United States, the multicultural democracy and the constitutional republic. We represent the constitutional republic. Woke represents the multicultural democracy. Okay. They don't believe in the Electoral College.
Starting point is 00:45:58 They don't believe in this country. They believe the border should be open. All of those things. And so when we look to the things that please them, their aesthetic or otherwise, we call it woke. A good example of this I've been cite is the Jaguar commercial, which was just postmodern art. Nothing about it was trans. It was just people dressed in weird clothes, but they called it woke and the car brand failed. Another example of this would be Concord, the video game, where it's the biggest media flop in the history.
Starting point is 00:46:25 of mankind. Four hundred million dollars. They made zero dollars. Wow. The characters were all woke aesthetic with pronouns. Nobody wanted to buy it. Right. So this country has two countries within it. One, I believe, is largely born from the internet. So it's relatively, it's organized digitally, but disorganized physically. And they can easily coalesce in cities for riots and things like this. However, the bulk of this country is the constitutional republic. And so when you say something like woke right all you're doing is referring to a different cultural identity that is not the dominant republican party and it is not the the left cultural identity unfortunately as i already stressed that word has become incomprehensible as literally everybody is well i just i wouldn't i see
Starting point is 00:47:09 identitarianism on the left for sure with people being like i'm part of the group and then on the right when people are like i'm a i'm a catholic i'm like well what does that fucking mean what is your lifestyle what do you think about at night like what's your relationship like with your wife like what do you mean you and so people they're like they hide behind the badge of religion on the right as their woke identity and it and it drives people like me away from the movement if you're not truly with god like don't i don't i don't find what you said to be comprehensible like people that think they're part of the cult of of the tv news on the left and people think they're part of the cult of the church on the right are both equally woke like if you don't have evidence to to back up
Starting point is 00:47:46 the data you learn this through covid don't say it's real i think i think this i i i reject to what you are saying because there's a big difference between the left deciding to sever the genitals of children and someone coming to a faith-based justification for their worldview. So again, let me stress the difference here. Someone says, I have witnessed things in my life that are hard to explain. I have developed a personal relationship with God. I'm going to have faith in the things that I find to be good, just, or otherwise. And it is true that when you step outside of individuals, different people have different religions. And that is a challenge. but deciding to live your life based on faith like well that's different than just a spouting what you know your religious leader tells you you're supposed to spell let me let me say it like this
Starting point is 00:48:35 there is no grand philosophical question over cutting off a child's breasts a prebubescent girl for someone who says i have had deep contemplations about existence spirituality and i know know it's hard to conclude, but I do believe, to the best of my understanding, that Christ is Lord, et cetera, et cetera. That's very different from someone being like, I don't know anything about it, but we should sterilize children. Yeah, faith, of course, the topics are different, but having, it's not having faith is a problem. It's the identitarianism that some people have, when they don't even have faith, they'll say they do. Right. They just say it. They outsource their thinking to the group belief. That's right. It's like low-rung thinkers. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:17 They're not people who are thinking from first principles. They're not people who are approaching things particularly rationally, or at least they just outsource their beliefs to what the current thing is of their in-group. I will say it like this. Actually, I shouldn't say if. When we brought on prominent liberal thought leaders to explain their position on gender, they had literally no answers and nothing made sense. We have brought on numerous deeply religious people and theologians
Starting point is 00:49:44 who have explained in great detail the structures of their worldview and why they believe what they do. Michael Knowles being one of the greatest examples who can talk, talk your ear through ad nauseum about his faith-based moral worldview and his belief structures. So again, I will stress, we have brought on prominent liberal proselytizers of gender ideology and Marxism, and they cannot explain to you what they're talking about. They can't even define the words. Then we bring out a theologian, and he explains his moral worldview around Christianity in the logos of the universe, his faith-based structure rooted in historical accounts of various religions, and what they have wrought as a country, meaning life has been good under these things.
Starting point is 00:50:27 We have seen great success, developed our civilization, and their historical accounts that I do agree with. There's also woke scientists, people that are like, hey, if I don't, if I can't measure it, then it doesn't exist. End of story. Bro, that's woke as fuck. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not woke, and I think definitions matter. To have faith in something that you don't have an evidence. Faith is not woke. It's believing that this is a scientific method. I think you have a chip on your shoulder about religion. The scientific method I'm talking about now.
Starting point is 00:50:50 People have the identity of the scientific. In the context of what we're discussing doesn't make sense. You're using woke synonymously with dogmatic. I think that's what you mean. In this situation, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think we just need to be careful not to like overly expand it to basically all kinds of idiotic thinking. No, when people believe the scientific method without, how can you prove that.
Starting point is 00:51:13 That's dogma. Exactly. So it's like, it's like a religiosity to, to that particular thing. I don't, but I think we're expanding, I think woke should stick tighter to, I agree, a sort of form of dogmatic thinking, but also more around identitarianism and,
Starting point is 00:51:28 but let me say, like the identity of the scientific community now. Yeah, no, I agree. That's like, but that's not, if you do not understand, the explanation someone gives you when they give you a logical explanation, it does not mean they are wrong or dogmatic.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Right. Yeah, but when someone says, I can't measure it, therefore it does not exist. I'm going to pause again and say, there is a difference from woke, which refer to on the left, where they say things like, a woman is an idea, which is a nonsense statement. And a theologian saying, God is the logos of the universe, and my belief is rooted in historical account, the trust I have in others, the readings of scripture, the faith I have in the history of humanity, as well as the
Starting point is 00:52:11 science as it relates to these things. So again, if there's an individual, who explain something that you don't understand, you can't just say it's dogma. And what I'm telling you right now is what I'm saying very specifically is we have brought on individuals like Michael Knowles who have he has explained in great detail and with tremendous logic, his worldview. And if you did not understand that, that doesn't mean he's wrong. Yeah, I didn't say he was wrong. I said he believes in something without evidence.
Starting point is 00:52:42 That's not true. You just don't comprehend. But also, are you defending Michael Knowles' worldview? Yes. You believe it? I don't have to believe it to defend his logic behind it in the explanation. But you don't necessarily believe what he was saying was true. And Michael Knowles has evidence.
Starting point is 00:52:54 So don't go away so I'm defending it, dude. Can I say evidence? I mean, there's evidence. You just said he didn't have evidence. It's real. I'm talking about enough evidence bordering proof is what I want. So he said proof. Proof is a large swath of evidence.
Starting point is 00:53:06 We have enough swath of evidence. And also I think gravity is magnetism. I think there's more evidence to show that it's magnetism. And this is the problem. I mean, you can look at, like, this is your dogma. At Maxwell's equation, if you want to do the math and watch it happen over and over again. Ian, I'm going to say this again. Your understanding of these issues is blocked at like a certain level.
Starting point is 00:53:25 And because I think you lack the perspicacity to understand why your worldview is identical to Michael Knowles in terms of your own argument. Oh, geez. I mean, what part of my worldview? You never actually did any of the experiments to prove that electrons exist. Yet you are adamant they do. then you would criticize Michael Knowles for having faith and calling it dogmind saying it's woke. I argue identically to you. So you think science is woke also?
Starting point is 00:53:56 Ian, when you get an electron microscope and trap iron oxidization and hemoglobin, I will believe your argument. What about like a thousand scientists that did it? What about a thousand priests that did? I don't have an electron microscope. Indeed, the point is you've never seen the proof of it, but you believe it is real. I've read a lot of scientific. And Michael Knowles read a lot about religion.
Starting point is 00:54:15 scientific proof. They'll call it that. I'm gonna leave it here. What do you want? It's kind of a goofy argument. You're like a too. It's not the same in the same ballpark as theology and all. The point I am making is Ian has never investigated any of the claims he's made about graphene, but he believes them. That's dog.
Starting point is 00:54:34 That's a blatant. I don't think that has to be dog. Like you don't have to have physically done a test in order to, you know, there's a ton of stuff. You believe the way it comes. car engine works, but you, because, you know, that an engineer says it, like, it's okay to. And that is not my argument. My argument is, do not criticize a learned theologian. Yeah. That you don't understand when you yourself has not sought to understand your own worldview.
Starting point is 00:55:04 My point is, while I think it's fairly obvious considering the monitor before my eyes that LED screens and LCD screens exist, and my cell phone transmits data, and I've actually personally built remote control objects, I understand the components behind these things, so I believe them to be true, which means I will then infer largely that most of the engineering and science probably is true as well because I've actually experimented with it. Then when I communicate with someone like perhaps Michael knows, a great example of this, who explains in great detail why he believes what he believes, and it is logically sound, but it doesn't have, there's no like microscope vision of what God or logic is. The argument that he makes is that God is the logos of.
Starting point is 00:55:44 of the universe. The logic that dictates everything that we exist and is in fact God. Ian, when you say I, that's dogma. That's not logic. You call it logic. It's not logic. To say that God is logic, therefore that's a logical statement. He has no proof or evidence of that, dude. I think you, I think you last the comprehension to understand what I'm saying. You just said he was making a logical conclusion that God is real based on the Christian faith. That's logical. You just said that was logical. He's saying he's saying he's not going to understand what I'm saying. You just said that Michael Moses is making a logical argument about the theology of God. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:18 It's not a logical statement. It's a faith-based statement without- There is no proof to point to. He's saying the word logic and God are interchangeable. Okay, but that doesn't make it a logical argument. Your interpretation misconstrues what he is saying, and you have not sought to understand his point, so you've called him woke. Or you've called it woke. It's a way of thinking that I think of this.
Starting point is 00:56:41 And I'm going to say one last time before we move to the Save Act. I implore you before deciding that something is true or not, you actually do the research. Can I say one thing on that? Okay. I could say, I believe I have $100 million in the bank. Do you? No. What about hard assets?
Starting point is 00:57:12 No, but I mean, I could say I believe. I could believe anything and say it gives me great comfort and therefore I believe it. But that isn't the same as a proven fact. There are many things in science and mathematics that we haven't proven, but we just know work for some reason. Well, we know the sun comes up every day. Gravity, no one knows what that is. Yeah, the theory of evolution is also still theory. But that's a misunderstanding of what theory means.
Starting point is 00:57:48 That's why I tell the theory. Can I just, can I say something real quick? Can we get back to the woke thing a little bit? Well, we're going to go to the say back. Well, I just want to say, I see the division as people that are over-emotional and people are logical, which this debate is proving. To me, that's the dividing line. Whatever Lindsay's talking about, woke right, Tucker, all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:07 When Gaza happened, it was like, oh, the children, the children, that was an emotional response for a lot of people. And I think that's the division. Some people are purely emotional and not logical, and other people are logical and not emotional. and not emotional. And to me, that's the divide. So it's actually masculine and the feminine, which is why women overwhelmingly
Starting point is 00:58:24 vote Democrat and men overwhelmingly vote Republican. Because whether and sensitivity is largely, well, there's a correlation between estrogen and testosterone agreeableness. So the woke right, Lindsay, whatever we want to call them, to me, that's a conservative branch of MAGA
Starting point is 00:58:40 that is over-emotional and bitchy. I would just say less rational. Okay, whatever. Whatever. That, to me, You guys just trying to say girls. They're girls. No, they aren't girls. Well, right, are girls in the conservative movement. I mean, I will say if Candace Owens audience is largely female,
Starting point is 00:58:55 that's why she has the Stanley mug, you know, on her desk. That's why she talks about Blake Lively, is that her name? Yeah, she does gossip. It is a female gossip show that uses geopolitics. Emotional. You're equating it to female, which I kind of agree, but I'm just talking emotional. Men can be over-emotional too.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Indeed, but it's macro-level politics, so it is predominantly feminine. I think her audience is largely female. is emotional that's all they want to say do you think that people that get to you does agree no i mean women on average tend to be more um agreeable feel yeah they're definitely more agreeable um they're more feel based but yeah i mean it's it's it's it's women tend to think more about social cohesion men tend to think more about um and and care from that perspective which has arguments by the way like if if there is no social cohesion societies fall apart men tend to focus more on abstract linear things this equals that therefore that indeed um and really we just need healthy aspects of both
Starting point is 00:59:53 what is woke woke to me is actually toxic femininity what i think what i think um what's his name james lindsay although i know we don't okay ignore him what the the the bad side and i'm not going to mention it not james but the bad side of of extreme conservatism is is toxic masculinity But I will stress that these people... Both can have the toxic sides and both can have their healthy sides. So like the question is how do we just get more of the health? And what's healthy is. Let me pause. Glenn Greenwald is not a conservative.
Starting point is 01:00:23 And Candace Owens is not a conservative. No, I don't know. So it's not a right-wing conservative things. Candice is just a psychopath. She's a demon. Neither is... He's not a conservative either. Well, you know, Tucker is a different beast in this regard.
Starting point is 01:00:36 But I will stress, Dave Smith's a libertarian. Glenn Greenwald is a, he's a social, he's a social liberal or everyone to describe him as Candice Owens is whatever the clicks this is by her own statements she is whatever the audience tells her to be yes so these are not conservatives they're not right-wing individuals so again woke right is a meaningless term yeah I'm actually convinced on that can we come up with the new term today then why we're all here at the train charge let's talk about the save acts and this is actually interesting as well we've got this from the post mail ladies and gentlemen
Starting point is 01:01:06 huge news the save act has advanced in the Senate 51 to 48 and this is tremendous It means they're going to waste our time for a week, won't get 60 votes, and then go, oh, geez, we tried. Because once again, they're going to spit in our face. I'm going to stress this. The SAVE Act is one of the most popular pieces of legislation in our lifetimes. And enjoying over 70% support among Democrats, 80 among independents, and 90 among Republicans. Yet for some reason, liberal pundits and Democratic politicians are pretending nobody wants it.
Starting point is 01:01:43 So Republicans, they could have nuked the filibuster and changed the rules, and this could have passed like that, but they're also playing dirty games and cutting backroom deals, and they're not going to pass a bill. I think the real reason is because what we have is a populist uprising, and the SAVE Act legitimately would correct a good portion of our elections. Yes, absolutely. But the Rhino branch of the Republican Party and the Democrat Uniparty Alliance want to be able to manipulate. lit elections in ways we can't tell so they can maintain power and this would disrupt that thousand percent they just want uh you know griff from the donors to keep that going all it is is grift they don't represent the people that they supposedly represent in the least it's all about who's going to give me what to influence what uh legislation i come up with they're just
Starting point is 01:02:38 prostitutes. They are in no way our governors in any way, our representatives nor are governors. They all need to like be called to justice. They need to be called to justice. I'm going to ask you this because I think I can get an interesting point out of you guys. Do you think the, you refer to them as the F-Tards, the, we call them the Israel posters, the Jew posters, Do you think they should vote? Yes. I'm not saying whether they can vote or think they should, like, they should. Would you encourage them to go to a voting booth and vote?
Starting point is 01:03:16 Oh, my God, it's terrifying, and I think that all the time. No, no, no, no, hold on. I am not asking whether you think they should have their rights taken from them. No. I am asking you, would you personally go to Tucker and say, don't forget to vote? I'll drive you to the polling location. Definitely not. But they should be able to, okay.
Starting point is 01:03:31 You wouldn't do that. No. You wouldn't be able. But I know they're going to vote probably. No, no, but this is not my point. What are you asking me? Would I help them vote? Would you encourage them to vote? No.
Starting point is 01:03:45 But hold on. That means there's a legitimate opinion of people in your country that's not being represented when you don't tell them to vote. Well, of course, we're not going to advocate for people that we think are stupid to go and vote because it would be bad for the country. So I say it like this. They should have, they should go back to the days where they used to have an IQ test before you can vote. And everybody was all up in arms. Okay. That was because people.
Starting point is 01:04:09 But it wasn't an IQ test. Whatever it was, it was culturally horrible because they had had all this other stuff about depriving people so they couldn't. Well, no, the questions were fact. But right now, there should be some kind of intelligence test. If you are for the destruction of your own family's life, then you shouldn't be allowed to vote. So now let's go back to the Save Act. Do you think? You don't agree.
Starting point is 01:04:38 No, I agree. Well, I'm asking you a question to get to the point of what you're saying. Okay. So now think of, so George Carlin famously said, think about how stupid the average person is. Now realize half of them are stupider than that. Yeah. I understand the Democratic Party. I understand why Adam Schiff lies on TV.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I understand why he's lying in the media. I understand why the MSNBC or MSN now lied about me because they have decided the American people are too stupid. So they have to be told what to do and manipulated. And the populist uprising is speaking genuinely to. people. The reason they don't want to pass the Save Act is because these people are going, are you nuts? Do you have any deal with this country would look like if these retards actually voted? So they don't want the American people to actually have the ability to vote. Because in their minds, the way you feel about Tucker and Candace, they feel about everybody
Starting point is 01:05:26 or at least the majority. So they want to have a system they can manipulate to make sure Candice Owens can't lead a grassroots uprising and get a politician in. They don't want AOC getting elected times 10. Also, they want to get elected. Well, I'm saying they want to get elected because they're smarter than you, and they know it. Well, like, when all this voter frauds... I don't get that at all. I'm not able to fall off.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I just want to say... Okay, my point is this. If you could... If everyone in this country, one day, if you woke up one day, and Tucker Carlson was standing in D.C., and literally 70% of voters in the country were all screaming, Tucker, Tucker, and they're about to vote for him, would you... And you had the ability to press a button that would make it so that the vote... wouldn't count. Would you press the button? Yeah. That's my point. The Republicans and the Democrats are pressing that button to make sure these people can't vote. Super delegates. They get to do that too.
Starting point is 01:06:20 No, it's true. And also when we were getting in all the election fraud, the Biden's 81 million votes, a lot of the people that cheated, no one ever talked about it on our side were Republicans. Like Lindsay Graham, I believe cheated. So I think this is for them to also stay in power. It is a uniparty thing and we all were on election integrity and blah blah blah our side cheats too right the last thing any of them want is election integrity the last thing any of the people who get voted for that's what i think it is is a way not to cheat so they can get rich and not because they think they're because they want to stay in power the reason they got the the the the literacy tests were not actually literacy tests they were riddles meant to make it impossible for people to vote yeah because
Starting point is 01:07:05 people. No, I know. It was, it was racist and all that stuff. Let me pull on up. But what about right now? You just ask this question. You just ask this question. Do you crack where you eat? And they go, yeah, I do it all time. Okay, well, you're unable to vote. So here's an example of a literacy test. That's it. And it's, uh, draw a line to the letter below that comes earliest in the alphabet. ZVS, B, D, MK-K-I-T-P-H-C. And you're like, okay, draw a line through the two letters below that come last in the alphabet. In the first circle below, write the last letter of the first word beginning with L. It's just to confuse people on purpose.
Starting point is 01:07:48 The first circle below right there. Write the last letter of the first word beginning with L. The first word where? In this sentence? The first word in this test. What does first word refer to? So here's the thing. You could say, okay, the first word in the whole test that began with L,
Starting point is 01:08:04 do what you were told to do in each statement, nothing more, nothing less. Okay, so it's the first letter of the first word beginning with L. with the last letter, so it's S. Wait, it could be E. Wait, it could be T. And they can decide to say, no, no.
Starting point is 01:08:20 It didn't say in this sentence. It's at the first word up top. And then if you go up top, they'll be like, what are you doing? The question was down there. It's hard to formulate it. Yes, they were intentionally designed to make it confusing so people couldn't vote.
Starting point is 01:08:31 What do you think of this, though? You ask everybody. do you crap where you right or the same place where you eat and then they go yeah and then you go well you are unable to vote well the question is well live i have a question for you if you did not eat breakfast yesterday how would you have felt if i did not eat right i would have felt indeed that's the correct answer okay there was a viral meme that said when they had psychologists go into prisons they were doing evaluations on many of these murderers, and they found that many of these violent criminals could not comprehend conditional hypotheticals.
Starting point is 01:09:11 So they asked the question, if you did not eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt? They would respond with, but I did eat breakfast. Oh, geez, okay. And they would say, yes, but what if you did not eat breakfast?
Starting point is 01:09:23 They'd go, what are you talking about? I had breakfast. And they'd say, I'm asking you if you did not. And they'd be like, this is insane. I don't understand. and they found low IQ people can't understand hypothetical questions. You're just going to do abstract thought, basically.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Yeah. I know the question. Do you believe Joe Biden got 81 million votes? Yes. And you are not able to vote. Yeah, if you say yes, you're out. No, you're wrong because he did. No, but I mean 81 million legitimate votes.
Starting point is 01:09:45 What do you mean by legitimate? That's different. People actually clicked for Biden. Living humans at work. Not counted. People actually selected Joe Biden. So the first thing I would say is the mistake Republicans made. Anyone million different people, sorry.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Yes. The mistake Republicans made was assuming that China was manufactured manufacturing ballots to steal the election when instead Democrats were mass printing ballots and then sending ballot harvesters to go collect them. Then when it came to signature verification, they were very lax on the signatures. And the reason why there were limited down ballot votes is because they'd go and knock on a door and say, just check for Joe Biden and then hand off the ballot and they were collecting them all. And James O'Keefe caught them dropping off the ballots they were collecting. James O'Keefe filmed at a nursing home, old people saying, the Democrats come here. And
Starting point is 01:10:29 and tell us all to check the box and hand them the ballot. So then when they said they're all fraudulent, nobody could prove it because they were, well, it was COVID. It was a different time and universal mail-in votes. So when everyone's like, how did Joe Biden do so well? And Kamala Harris didn't.
Starting point is 01:10:46 They didn't have COVID this time. Right. I told Steve Bannon this. This guy I know is a skateboarder. Dumb as a boxer rocks, there's no business being in politics at all, filmed himself dropping off a belt to a mailbox, saying we all got to do our part. And if you asked him what a Supreme Court,
Starting point is 01:10:59 court justice was he would assume it was a law. These people voted. Now, 2024 came around. They did not have that advantage or opportunity. So they did not get the same benefits. So you're saying 81 million people actually clicked, Joe, by 81 million separate people. I would, I would argue, well, first I would say this, that if you believe literally 100% of the votes are legitimate, that's just not true. But I would argue that the margin of error is substantially smaller than you actually think. And they cheated through ballot harvesting, not through printing fake ballots. They probably trashed Trump votes. Like they misplaced boxes of Trump votes and they ballot harvested boxes of Biden votes. What about the whole Tina Peters thing? She's still
Starting point is 01:11:41 in prison. Yeah, because Democrats are crooked. What happened with that? Evil. She took a picture of the way the machine was before they inspected it and it was different before and after. And then she got charged with being a traitor. She was a gold star mother. Let's jump to the story from The Blaze. Former Biden staffer angrily rips into Democrat-controlled cities for spiraling into Cass. Is this a joke? I don't know if you guys saw the big story. We've got this.
Starting point is 01:12:11 We'll play it right for you guys. Another teen meet up turned mob has police calling on parents. It's not letting us full screen. So let's open it on YouTube. And one parents to step up. The incident involving violence, but thankfully nobody was seriously hurt. Let's get to Stephanie Ramirez. She has more details from Navy Yard this morning.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Steph. Hey, guys, this morning. And there has been an increased police. presence here at Avier at all morning that we've been seeing is still this incident though we can tell you there were laws changed this past summer trying to address what's been going on really since the pandemic now this is some of the video showing the chaos that happened this past week and shared social media dc policing saturday night mayhem included a 15-year-old firing a gun into the air getting stopped by the national guard one child getting robbed of their shoes and a jacket another person going to the
Starting point is 01:12:55 hospital after being assaulted and robbed and a 16-year-old taken into custody after secret service as they stopped a ride-chair vehicle and saw the teen try to ditch a gun from that vehicle. We're told groups of teens started to gather in the park near the Navy Yard Metro at around 630 Saturday night and then some two hours later the crowd had grown to around 200. Two weekends ago, Navy Yard was one of the areas designated as a juvenile curfew zone, part of the newer law that limits the number of teens that can gather in a public space from 8 to 11 at night. Okay, we get it, we get it. So over the weekend, 200, largely. black male and slightly less black females rampaged through the Navy Yard area as they do quite frequently
Starting point is 01:13:36 and caused lots of damage fights broke out there were several arrests and one of the individuals fired a gun several times it may have been the same individual but someone was caught trying to ditch a gun we've also had a shooting or i believe there there may have been shots fired in detona beach again overwhelmingly young black males with some black females and i highlight that because this is the issue that we are dealing with right now. The phenomenon we are seeing of raids on stores and these teen meetups are predominantly coming from the black community. Now, of course, this is generating a ton of racism online, where the response is overtly about race as opposed to the crime. I would argue whatever you think, how do we as a society solve for this problem when the laws
Starting point is 01:14:19 don't change anything? And the department store raids, the mall raids, and the team meetups are always young black men. I think the Democrat should stop paying them to do that. They're paying them to do it. They're not paying them to do it. The, the, the, the, the, the DAs are letting them go. Right, that's the thing. I think that there's money behind it, street gangs, and, you know, it's getting close.
Starting point is 01:14:44 And every time there's a real important thing going on, they have to throw in something news that can hide the news. So, you know, all this stuff happens in blue cities because they want it to. And they encourage the children to do it. These are the adults. Why would they want it in their own cities? It makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Fundraising, Democratic Fundraising. Well, they do let, the DAs and the cities let them go. Street gangs. They want to destroy, you know, every place where their safety and anything forward. or good for black people. They don't like black youth, especially the Democrats don't.
Starting point is 01:15:32 They're not easily controlled without cash. And, you know, it's just the racism of the Democrat, you know, Candace said it, but it's plantation politics, as usual. Is it because the black community, I generally don't make generalizations,
Starting point is 01:15:48 generally don't make generalizations, about the black community, but that they're anti-war, generally because of the way their cultures? They're like, the black people. Anthers were a huge target of Nixon. They were really anti- What does it do in Vietnam? I don't know that culture, like, because their ancestors were
Starting point is 01:16:02 oppressed in slavery. It's like you know that you're talking about a small group of people who are Marxist communists and then saying all black people are anti-war. I know the solution. I'm saying the black communities causing the crimes is an insane statement. Like, what does that even mean? The black people. Let me just say this again in case you missed it. are being weaponized in America by the Democrats in blue cities. Look at it. I can fix this. What?
Starting point is 01:16:27 Criminalize abandoning your children. It already is criminal. It is? Like, their punishment? How is that criminal? They arrest dads all the time who can't pay their, who can't pay. That's paying child support. That's not abandoning your children.
Starting point is 01:16:39 So you're saying enforce fathers living with their children. If you have a child, do you have a responsibility? I agree, get rid of no fault divorce. Then you're saying that women have to live with guys they may not want to be with. They're writing the parents should go to jail. I agree with that. Well, no, I'm saying if you have a child, you have a responsibility to take care of that child. If you abandon that child, you should be punished. How does that function legally?
Starting point is 01:16:58 Like, if there's a woman who says, I can't live with this man is abusive, no. I don't have the answer. I'm just saying a lot. It's very easy, and I'm talking about, you're not in trouble. I will. It's very easy for people to leave their children, especially fathers, especially fathers in that community. It's way too easy because it happens all of the time in that community. I understand. But what's the, To point out that we know this thing is happening, but we've tried to solve for it. I don't think that's possible to solve it. When there's kids in the street doing wrong, their parents should be arrested.
Starting point is 01:17:28 100%. Well, if they abandon them. Not if they're bad parents. Well, if they're abandoning him to run wild in the street with guns, they should go to deal. I mean, it's mostly a lot of single moms that don't have much money or agency. Welfare. Who knows? Who knows?
Starting point is 01:17:41 They make more money. The dad leaves. I have two girls. Yes. But there's also a welfare incentive to intentionally not live. with the father because they'll get more money from welfare. It's also extremely hard to overcome gang culture. If you're living in a poor urban area and gang culture is rife,
Starting point is 01:18:00 it's very hard to make your kid who is probably bigger than you at this point stay home. I do have an answer though. But where's gang culture? But that's not true because... But give me an example because... Give me an example. Of a city? Well, the crime we see in Chicago, France has nothing to do with gangs.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Isn't it? No. What does it have to do with? So the, typically the gangs sometimes war with each other and sometimes there's intergang violence. But most of the shootings that you see are young black men honor killing each other. So the easy way to explain it is they will go on social media and say, yo girl, ho. The other guy will pull up to his house and unload on the house. It's not gang related.
Starting point is 01:18:42 It's beef related. Sure. Okay. Anyway, just throwing it out there, national service, that a man, man. mandatory national service for all teenagers of any race. Yes, basic training. Age 16, it forces you to. Because a lot of this is a left of, it's a downstream of, like,
Starting point is 01:18:59 there's just absolute void of discipline. I think that's a good idea. I like, basic training? A lot of, longer, six months, screw it. Like, national service of, like, it can be, whether it's. Agreed. I love it. You know, whether it's military or it's community service,
Starting point is 01:19:13 but something where it's like actual strict. A lot of these kids are just desperate for structure. They have no structure. They have no authority figures. in their life who are at least reasonable, same people. You know, and so they, you know, they're either just in this like anarchic condition, which is probably what that thing was. They're just all messaging each other.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Oh, yo, we're all going down here. Well, that kind of is abandoned. It is. They have no dads. They are fundamentally just abandoned people. And they're young kids. Which is criminal. I think if I'd been involved in that, you know, if I'd grown up in a completely, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:42 life absent of any kind of discipline, I probably would have on the same. I was kind of a, you know, naughty kid. I was always causing trouble. Who knows? I just was lucky that I had very, like, you know, decent parents. Ram Emanuel wanted everyone at 18 to graduate to go through. I think it was three weeks of basic training. And at the time, because I think he was saying this when I was around that age,
Starting point is 01:20:06 I was like, yeah, right, you can't make me do that. Now I'm older and I'm like, yep, they should make people do it. You know which country has national service and is pretty good? Israel. And they're pretty good at, you know, having a national identity. and having a lot of societal cohesion. Well, teaching self-discipline is good, but in America they should do it way before graduation.
Starting point is 01:20:28 It should be like, you know, onset puberty, teaching children to get control of their emotions and their body and have some self-discipline, you know, that would be a really good thing to do in this country. That is a dad's job. And that's a good idea. Like 12. We had a bonus army in World War II.
Starting point is 01:20:48 because they could just resurrect that whole bonus army for kids. What's that? And teach them a trade on top of it. Yeah, exactly. It can also get, like, they learn something as well. A lot of these kids, they just don't feel valued. And, like, frankly, they're not that valuable if they're behaving like this. But you give them some structure.
Starting point is 01:21:03 I will. I would say that at least where I grew up, the issue was just its competition. So for me and my friends, our competition was rooted in playing music and skateboarding. Yeah. For the kids who lived across the tracks or the other side of 47th, the competition was in social status. So did you come up? Meaning you got money, you got a gun, what do you got?
Starting point is 01:21:26 And so they're wearing jewelry and they're, they're flaunting status amongst each other. If they had some kind of legitimate nonviolent competition, that would probably do away with a lot of these things. But so there's also something called swerving, you know what swerving is? No. They get on their bikes, they do wheelies and they charge it people and then swerve real quickly right before they hit them, trying not to crash while they film it. again Ian asked the question
Starting point is 01:21:49 this is coming out why would you say it's coming out the black community because all of the people doing it are black not you can deny that and say no probably not literally
Starting point is 01:21:59 100% but I know what you mean like a majority or so there was a there was a point I think Michael Malice made this point
Starting point is 01:22:07 he said if you bring up an issue and then someone cites an anecdote you know you're dealing with someone of low intelligence well what about people that use hyperbole everyone all the time. Like what a stupid statement. That was the point that I think Michael was trying to make.
Starting point is 01:22:20 When I point out that we are watching large groups of black teenagers rampage through malls through Chicago through Magmile in the DC Navy Yard in Daytona Beach and some of them are Latino and white, obviously there's always going to nothing is literally absolute and everyone already understands that. The point we're making is that the phenomenon of swerving and of teen takeovers are born predominantly from the black community. It doesn't mean all black people are violent. It means this is coming from that area. They're also born from TikTok and, you know, online media.
Starting point is 01:22:54 So, I mean, it's a way to get some fame in your 15 minutes, too. It's a trend that exists largely along, like swerving is almost entirely young black teenagers. Like black teenagers, you don't see white people doing it for whatever reason. And I think it's because in these areas, the people they follow, the music they listen to, the trends they have, this is a part of that culture that does not exist in other neighborhoods. The videos they're putting out from the Navy Yard show young white men peacefully walking past National Guard while black men are screaming obscenities. Again, I'm not saying all black people because that would not
Starting point is 01:23:28 be correct, right? We have tremendous leaders in this country. Clarence Thomas is our best member of the Supreme Court, and we should clone him and fire all the rest of them. But the issue is you are going to see this. It is already online that you are saying. seeing a massive increase in racism where accounts are pointing out that most of this violence and chaos is coming from young black men and they're saying that they don't want to live near black people anymore well i do think that my son was saying something kind of profound about abandoning a whole class and race of kids and not giving them any structure not giving them any thing to hope for i mean that really is bad something should repeat
Starting point is 01:24:14 place that, something, our country should do something to build up instead of just accept destruction. I would say this, the penalty for these kinds of crimes should be three weeks of basic training. I kind of like that. It's like you're convicted, you're going to go to a camp for basic training. And I'd like it too because it's like this. You're not going to be drinking or smoking pot or doing anything, you're going to learn to live in your body and have discipline. More, maybe I, maybe, uh, Juvie should actually just be basic training camps. Like if you get 10th six months, it's like, you know, wake up, crawl through the mud, climb the wall. That's your day. You're going to get, you're going to get ripped strong and
Starting point is 01:25:00 disciplined. Right. And the sooner you learn to like adhere to the rules, because I mean, that's the thing. A lot of these kids have just never learned to have any rules at all. The sooner you adhere to them and, and make some kind of progress. And I'd, don't have the top of the top of my head what that point yes meter is then then it's not adhere it's like it's not adhere or knuckle under it's desire to improve that's what that's what they're not getting any of that they're being weaponized to uh you know they're how it just is terrible well you need a carrot and a stick for like with with when someone is that sort of disenfranchised from society and that ain't
Starting point is 01:25:40 anti-social effectively. You need stick. You need like some kind of punishment to an extent, which is to, I guess, you've lost your liberty for a few months because you'll put into this, you know, national service training camp, whatever you want to call it. But you also need to have a carrot, like there need to be rewards where they actually feel like, oh damn, I achieved something. And they get some self-worth. It is a combination. I know this probably sounds like, you know, slightly woke sounding, but there is, there is truth that you also need to reward someone when they have done good work. And these kids are that have a opportunity to grow and get out of that.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Do something besides exploit them. That's what's so horrible about the Democrats, the worst thing. Oh my God, I have to go to the bathroom. You can do like a stage show at the end of the three weeks of service where they get like a certificate and come up on stage, kind of like a graduation. When they're 12, you know, like Roseanne was saying for young kids before pre-briety, you kind of get the wiring. What about more societal pressure? I mean, to be honest, we could just have our laws be enforced.
Starting point is 01:26:38 and instead of releasing these people and letting murderers go, we can just, you know, be alive, you commit a crime, go to jail. Too simple. The point is that institutions are just completely overtaxed and insufficiently, I mean, it's not that they insufficiently funded. They actually get a lot of funding. Well, not all of them do, but the money is so horribly used. And so, yeah, it's, we just need new institutions,
Starting point is 01:27:04 and I wish I knew how to do that. Why isn't there more pressure? I'm going back to the dad thing, forget criminalizing, but why isn't there more pressure on men to step up as fathers societally? I think the Democrats historically have always been racist. And if you look at everything they've been doing since Jim Crow, it has just made things worse for black people in the United States. So creating a welfare system where the mothers will get more money for their kids
Starting point is 01:27:28 if the father is not present is literally resulting in women being like, you can't live here because I'll lose my money. Right. So it's coordinated to weaken that community. Yeah. Okay. So at first, bad incentives. But you can solve it by being a perverse incentives.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Good fathers collectively could help a lot, alleviate a lot of these problems, no? Maybe I'm being too. Yes, but you have to not only get the fathers to stay, but you also have to make the fathers good in the first place. And if you've got this multi-generational problem where it's like young guys who have not had good fathers, so they've never had that good influence,
Starting point is 01:27:59 they've never learned how to be responsible men, then having kids, it's just like you're seeing multi-downstream effects of that. That's what I'm about your generation. Because military does provide that. I also think we need to get rid of all these unconstitutional gun laws. I saw a video out of New York where it was like five black teenagers who robbed a bodega with guns, pointed at some dude's face who's just like his hands up. And I'm like, why do we just punish the victims?
Starting point is 01:28:24 That's all the Democrats do in these cities. The innocent guy who was running a business, who has no intention of robbing anybody, can't have a gun, and the criminals who don't care about breaking the law are going to do it anyway. So then you watch, there are videos where, you know, in Brazil, someone will come into a store to rob it and then seven people just start unloading on them and don't do that. Then in the United States, people just get mercilessly beaten
Starting point is 01:28:44 and everything taken from them by these criminals. And that story from New York where it was like a 19-year-old woman was leaving, exiting the train to go to her dorm and a group of like 12 and 13-year-old black kids stabbed her to death to steal her stuff. Those people don't realize. Excessive mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.
Starting point is 01:29:04 That's what they don't get. We call it. narco tyranny. Yes. And you think it's bad in the U.S. You should go check out the UK right now. Oh, yeah. It's hell.
Starting point is 01:29:12 It's hell on earth. Oh, the UK is fallen. You don't have a country anymore. What did you call them invading barbarians? Oh, today. Yeah. She was referring to specifically to rapists. There was more gang.
Starting point is 01:29:27 The headline was, it was like a daily male headline, and it was like a group of asylum seekers being arrested for gang raping a woman and filming it. And my point, my comment was something to the effect of like, at what point do we stop calling men like these asylum seekers and start calling them what they really are, which is an invading barbarian horde. Because, yeah, it's, I grew up, when I grew up in the UK, I was able to just walk to streets late, whatever time, as a young girl.
Starting point is 01:30:00 And I was, I mean, okay, I'm not saying that crime never happened. Of course it did. but the rates at which crime is happening has never been seen before, and I hate to say it, but it is disproportionately, like, massively caused by... James Lindsay. No, no, no. Let me pull the story up so I can give people some context. We've got this from the Daily Mail.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Asylum Seekers gang-raped vulnerable woman on beach as she made her way home from night out with one filming the ordeal trial told. And this has been going on quite some time in the UK. And you, of course, are from the UK, and you had some choice words. These individuals are not asylum seekers. They are coming in and committing atrocities against innocent civilians. And so you refer to them as...
Starting point is 01:30:44 Almost entirely the women. Invaders. Yes. Well, yeah, it's the women, of course. Yeah. But if you go to... I mean, you're likely to be arrested for that tweet if you go back to the UK. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:53 They haven't arrested me yet. I've been back a few times. I've said spicier stuff than that. They arrested Graham... Yeah. Right, right, right. I mean, that was over... That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:31:03 And trans-related stuff. stuff. I mean, listen, they can try. I have you know Tommy Robinson just put part one and two on YouTube the rape of Britain, parts one and two. You know, they did it on purpose. The leaders did it on purpose. They wanted to rape the women back into their place. So it could all be a wrong. on everywhere. I'm so happy we're bombing the hell out of that place. I wish. I think generally my rule of thumb is don't attribute to malice
Starting point is 01:31:45 what can be attributed first to incompetence. And by and large, the grooming gang rape crisis was more a product. Obviously, it was malice of the gang rapers. And it was definitely malice of some police who would hear about it and just like usher the problem away. Because nothing is low. on the totem pole than poor white trash British girls as you know I hate the word white trash but like that's the the opinion of them so there was a lot of that in the UK
Starting point is 01:32:13 okay so it wasn't the the royals or you know the government or anything that made the laws that we they were going to bring in all these people from other countries who you know thought rape was okay it wasn't their fault oh no no it wasn't no it was no it was the government's fault for allowing kind of allowing this kind of mass immigration so that they could break the back of laborers. Sure, but I think we should, we need to be careful not to completely oversubscribe it to intentional malice and not give,
Starting point is 01:32:46 where I think most of the blame lies, which is that people became so scared, and this is relating to wokeness, so scared of being accused of being racist, that they would rather sweep under the rug an obvious, horrific, very much race-related crime of mostly I mean in various countries
Starting point is 01:33:07 but Pakistani immigrant gangs grooming little low-income white girls children on mass scales and people were so scared to admit it because it was more of a heinous moral ill to be accused of being racist than to let this mass rape go on.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Are you saying we should repeal the 19th? Do you don't think that was an attack on the British citizenry? Repeal the 19th. No. No. It means take away women's ability to vote. Right. Oh, I don't think it's, no, I don't think it's, like, that's, it's a joke.
Starting point is 01:33:43 No, no. I think what we should do is, my argument is if you want to vote, you have to sign up for the draft. Man and women are allowed to do it and you can't vote unless you do. Mm-hmm. I kind of like that. I agree with that. You were talking about automatically signing everyone up for the draft. That's a very different thing.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Okay, I do think there's a very different thing to a drafting people. into a war that may or may not be justified versus making people do six months of what when you say draft what do you mean there so saying declare for you so so every 18 year old male in the United States has to sign up for the selective service so that they could be called into a draft in a time of need right in case of a war yeah yeah we've not done it in 50 years longer than that now what are we going on yeah we're going on 50 some odd years uh so my argument is not that there is an active war going on you must at 18 year old 18 years old make yourself available for conscription if you want to vote and you can
Starting point is 01:34:38 opt not to you can say i say i say you cannot opt out well so technically you're opting in the default state is you just don't sign up for the draft got it got it but then you don't vote right it's like signing up to be an organ donor you don't get to be on the list or high up on the list of organ donors unless you yourself put yourself on the list i think we need reciprocity basically yeah yeah and then if you did that liberals would stop voting That's exactly right. I think a lot of people still voting. Mostly liberals.
Starting point is 01:35:06 You go to Times Square and you ask the average urban lib, who's a tourist or who lives there and say, would you like to vote this election and go, yeah, sure, I guess. You got to sign up for the draft. Hell no. You go to a conservative and it'll be like, yes, sir. They'll be like, I already signed up.
Starting point is 01:35:19 I served four years. And you go, oh. And they're like, I'll go back if they need me. And you're like, oh, that's going to be most conservatives. Or they're going to be able to, if you're going to go to a 17-year-old kid and be like, if you want to vote, you got to sign for the draft. I'm like, I was planning on listening anyway. and you're like, oh.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Or kids are going to be like, I'm going to ROTC. I'm going to be in a, like, Oh my God. Did you see that happening with the offals as Malice calls them? They will never vote again. No, I don't. You go up and you go. You know what?
Starting point is 01:35:45 You have such a great opinion on the women of Iran, how, you know, they should live like slaves and be shot to the head if their hair shows. Well, they shouldn't show their hair, right? No, but I'm saying, yeah. I mean. Can we say what awfuls are for people live? Awfuls. What are they?
Starting point is 01:36:03 A fluent white liberal. Feminist. Affluent white female urban liberal. Yeah, that's what Michael. Awful. But I mean, could you see going to them and saying, since you've made yourself a, you know, voice of all womanhood, you know,
Starting point is 01:36:22 and some women that do have penises. Yes, and men can have babies and all that. You're a voice of that. So as a voice, or with responsibilities, you need to sign up for the draft. Love it. Yes. Don't you love that?
Starting point is 01:36:36 Brilliant. I love that. I think because the issue is we don't actually, we haven't drafted in 50 years. And here's the point. I get a lot of people who sign up. I'm like, no, no, no, you don't understand. The people who sign up for, go to your average enlisted soldier or combat infantry or whatever. They're going to tell you we do not want war.
Starting point is 01:36:56 I've seen it. You don't want it. Those are the people who vote. And they're going to be like, no. And then if you send it for the draft and then you're going to vote for a politician who's like, I want war. You're like, hell no, I'm in the draft line. I'm not voting for that. You will get a strongly anti-war government only when it truly needs it and the people truly agree.
Starting point is 01:37:13 And the people who are unwilling to put themselves in line for their country don't get a say. They get all their rights. They get free speech. They get two-way. They get three, four, five, six. Ain't nobody's going to want no soldiers going to go live in your house. Okay, but wait. But no vote.
Starting point is 01:37:26 I think you sold it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, because the people who. do vote must have available to them a free press which publishes actual facts or there's no vote. There should be no voting. If it's all propaganda and corporate horseshit, then nobody should vote. Well, which is why nobody's vote counts. So, King? Trump. Huh? King Trump?
Starting point is 01:37:58 I mean. What if, what if Trump? was like, I've signed an executive order making Barron the heir to the throne of the United States. He's now king. Not bad. Would you be okay with it? No, I would not. And I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 01:38:11 I want Rubio. No, no. He makes Rubio like the vizier. Like Mordecai. Yeah, Baron's the king, but Rubio whispers in his ear. I don't know if Barron's up. I'm a supposed. I've heard Barron's a genius.
Starting point is 01:38:29 It's very genius. Yeah. I know people who know him. I've never met him. But I've heard that he's like, he knows everything. He grew up around all this stuff. He's tracked all this stuff. He's read about it.
Starting point is 01:38:39 And I've heard he's incredibly smart. I wonder. Wow. So that's like that book that is eight feet tall. Barron something's time travels. Maybe he is that. He's also eight feet tall and could single handedly take down Iran just by himself. This is kind of freaking out.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Just rampaging through throwing people. What are you got in? I'm looking at installing an automatic draft. They want a selective service moving towards automatic registration for eligible males 18-26 through the 2026 NDAA. They got signed specifically section 535. Didn't Obama sign that? What? This has just happened in 2026.
Starting point is 01:39:16 They expected to pass in 2026 that you'll automatically be signed up for the draft through technology like Palantir. Oh, Palantir. Just the databases. It's automatic through the DMV. It's supposed to be, but you could always like. not do it. Is this just men? I didn't have an opportunity.
Starting point is 01:39:31 Is it women too or just men? Just men. I don't know. I think it's women too. Males. No, this is funny. The Democrat, female Democrats are trying to get women forced for the draft. And then all of a sudden, TikTok and like Instagram bloop with young men being like,
Starting point is 01:39:46 feminism means what? I'm out. I don't want any of this. That's why I'm saying. If you sign up for the draft, then you can vote because then women don't vote. Dude, the war in Iraq was so egregious. I like that. they want to.
Starting point is 01:39:58 In 2000, you just got to sign up. Afghanistan, Iraq was so egregious. If that draft, I would have fled the country if they tried to send me off to that meek rider. I would have. The other thing though is it's all probably going to be moot anyway because the future of warfare is drones. It's going to be so rare that we're going to have actual physical bodies going to war zones.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Did you see that, do you see that robot? I think it was in San Francisco that was supposed to be serving food, but then it threw the food and started dancing instead. Sounds about right. Is it? Yes, the server tried to stop it, but it was just dancing and like, thrashing about It was like, I don't want to dance. We're gonna make robot soldiers and they're gonna start dancing on the battlefield and then we're...
Starting point is 01:40:35 Didn't want them get arrested? Real quick, just think about how crazy it is. The idea that like in the future we're gonna be, we're gonna say like, we're declaring war in Iran and we deploy like 10,000 optimist bots running through the streets. And then Iran deploys 10,000 optimist spots and then both the fat Ayatollah watching soccer and the fat President States watching football are sitting there clicking the button while robots just punch each other. Oh, so that's not looking at the button while robots just punch each other. Oh, so... by police in China. No, it wasn't China.
Starting point is 01:41:00 It was in Macau, China. After it startled a 70-year-old woman on a public street. Oh, right, right. This is on March 13th. This is four days ago. It went rogue? They detained the robot, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:11 It went rogue. That would be so great when they go rogue. Can I just say Daily Mail is evolving because they actually said vulnerable. Vulnerable. That is good for them. See? Ten years ago, it wouldn't have that in there.
Starting point is 01:41:25 So let's take a moment to. You think they're going to make the first robot arrest? Well, it sounds like they did. Well, they just detained them. But it's China, so, like, you know, they could do whatever they want with him, I guess. So this is the video of the dancing robot. Is this it? For real?
Starting point is 01:41:45 It was worth a jam. I'm just feeling it. Bro, it's going to get crazy. They're brave, putting their hands into its arms. That's scary. That'll crush your fingers. Oh, that's crazy. And look how it's smiling with its fake robot smiling.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Have you guys ever seen that episode of Doctor Who where they go to a planet? There's a bunch of robots with smiley faces on them. Uh-uh. Doctor Who used to be so good. They go to this planet or this timeline. I don't know how it works in the TARDIS. And there's a bunch of robots with smiley faces. and there's no humans.
Starting point is 01:42:29 And then they find a bunch of like skeletons. And it turns out that the robots were designed to keep people happy. It was a colony of humans. They were colonizing a planet. They were growing vegetables and stuff and trying to live. And the robots were programmed to always keep the humans happy. Until one of the older females of the colony died of old age. And the humans got sad when they saw this woman die.
Starting point is 01:42:53 And the robots try as they might could not make the person happy anymore. the person happy anymore. And then the robots discovered something terrifying. If an unhappy person came into contact with a happy person, the happy person became unhappy because they learned about the death. So the robots viewed it as a contagion. And then the only way to stop the spread was to kill the people that were unhappy and spreading it around, which of course created more unhappiness and created a feedback loop. So then the doctor and it just said walk around with big fake smiles the whole time because if you get unhappy, they kill you. That's exactly the kind of misalignment that is can happen like it's one of many many cases
Starting point is 01:43:31 happened if you're in California and I mean it's that's California to me it's well California San Francisco has a poo department so there's a lot of misalignment in California you know about the poo department San Francisco yeah you got a police department you got a fire department a poo department there are so much human feces in San Francisco right that they've created a specific department to go and clean up human feces we need the pre-robots mom I got a job So they're going to have robots full of... riding around everywhere.
Starting point is 01:43:59 Have you seen the video of the homeless ladies sitting on the delivery bot kicking it? And then, like, they knock it over and just destroy it. The homeless people are just bashing it. I mean... Oh, my God. People are doing that to Waymos. People are doing that to Waymos all the time, right? You know, have you guys ever seen that movie with Justin Timber Lake where time is currency?
Starting point is 01:44:16 And they have, like, it's very poorly executed. But in the... The most ridiculous pocusy never as well. I know. Exactly. Right. What did he have, like, 8-4 offsuit or something? It was just painful.
Starting point is 01:44:26 And then he wins. I guess the point was that he was playing dumb. But in the movie, time is currency. Everybody, if your time runs out, you die. Everyone stops aging at 28. Oh. And when you work, they scan your wrist and give you time. And then most people have like two or three days left.
Starting point is 01:44:41 So you have to keep working. Otherwise, you die. He saves a rich guy who then gives him like a thousand years or something. So now he's rich. And then in order to go to the wealthy areas, you have to have, you have to give like five days or something to go to the wealthy area. it, you can go. And then when he gets there, they're like, how did you get here? This is usually
Starting point is 01:44:59 not possible. We look at that like nightmare dystopia, but that's literally how New York and San Fran operate. It costs like, what was it, like 15 bucks now to get into New York City through the tunnels and through the bridges, the tolls. San Francisco goes the same way. And during the city costs money leaving is free because they don't, they want to keep poor people out. So if you don't have the money, you can't drive in. Oh. We like to keep the riffraff out, they're going to make this crazier and crazier. I wouldn't be surprised if in like 20 years and during New York cost like $300. And then everything's clean.
Starting point is 01:45:28 You think it's going to be clean or is it just going to be a... Have you ever gone skiing? Just a crap hole with dead bodies laying? No, you ever go skiing? Yes, of course. Have you noticed that people lay thousands of dollars in ski gear just wherever they want and walk off? What do you mean lay?
Starting point is 01:45:45 So when you go to a ski resort... No, he's saying lay out thousands of dollars. It's a very high trust to society. When you go to a ski, you go to any mountain. Even in West Virginia for like a cheaper ticket. Yeah. You take off your... $1,000 ski gear in poles or snowboard, you prop it up on a fence, and you walk inside to have
Starting point is 01:45:59 dinner. Yeah. And there's probably 50 grand worth of ski equipment on that one rack, and no one thinks twice. It's just normal. Yeah. When it costs a lot of money to get there, people aren't really worried about theft. If you got like drone surveillance, like Larry Ellison wants to have, or David Ellison, really, total surveillance so that you don't have deviation from the order.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Manhattan Island's a great place to, like, test that out. You got the northern area, what is that the Bronx, that's a land bridge. So you'd have to have patrols up there like a border to prevent, but you just have a few bridges. Yeah. What are they going to do with all the... What are they going to do with all the... No, Manhattan's connected to the north through a... It goes up into the Bronx.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Where will they put all the homeless and the crazy people and the poor people? New Jersey. In vats, where they can vibrate and create electrical charge. I don't know. Underground. Maybe they'll show them across the street. Yeah, Manhattan is an island. It is not connected to...
Starting point is 01:46:56 To the Bronx? There's no land bridge to the Bronx. No, not to the Bronx, but there is to Long Island, right? There's a bridge and then there's a bridge. No, but my point is he said there's a land bridge to the... It's like a finger. It is a tree and island. Yeah, it's an island.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Okay. Not technically, literally an island. There's like a river that... Yes. Well, yeah, between Brooklyn and Manhattaners are, you know, part of the area. Manhattan is an island on all sides surrounded by water, and you need a bridge to get off of it. Or a tunnel. I didn't realize there was water to the north.
Starting point is 01:47:20 Yes. It's a thin strip. That's why it's called Manhattan. Island. No, no, white planes. I'm talking about white planes. Is New York in Manhattan? I know. I know there's a river that cuts across. Inwood, George. Wait, are we saying it's bad to keep the poor people out?
Starting point is 01:47:34 I'm just confused. Like, is this bad dystopian? Are we, I mean, it's kind of badass? They're saying, are you saying it's all going to be the 15-minute cities thing? I'm kind of into it. No, no, I'm saying that one, one scenario I'm envisioning is that in the future, they just a toll to get into New York, which there already is one, but they make it exorbitant, and then less people go there.
Starting point is 01:47:55 It's less, it's less dense. they're still wealth. It's a lot cleaner because there's very few people. And they don't say anything about restricting the poor. They just say, well, the tunnel costs money. It's extreme gentification. Yeah. Well, what about Mom Dami? He's not going to let none of that go by. He just wants dead poor people all over the streets.
Starting point is 01:48:13 I'm not so sure. Socialists love the caste system. Well, I mean, again, like... Yeah, they do love the caste system. No group, no political group has killed more communists than communists. I know. Well, we're going to go to your Rumble rancest. super chats so smash that like button to share the show with everyone in your life that you know want to kill a robot well you can't they're not alive if you
Starting point is 01:48:34 if you're not what would be a weapon of choice if we have no no we're going to rumble rancet's and super chats because we are over time and then at 10 we'll go to the uncensored portion where we can talk about those things so smash that like button share the show and other good stuff I got we got mythos six seven one who says sounds like Joe is a sissy kent okay uh our sergeant says can we get the english lady for the morning show, perhaps, but in what capacity do you mean, like to interview with Tate? What? I don't. They want you to appear on the morning show.
Starting point is 01:49:06 Andrew Tate? No, no, no, no, Tate Brown. He's the host of the noon show. Andrew Tate? I do not like Andrew Tate. Why not? Have you talked to him before? I've never met him, but he is, he's just another Candice Owens to me.
Starting point is 01:49:18 He just says anything. He doesn't give a shit about truth from, unless it furthers his own self. He just strikes me as an extraordinarily selfish person. who is not interested in seeking truth, he just wants to be famous. Well, that head of him. Now, I've never met him. That's all I'm seeing of how he presents on social media.
Starting point is 01:49:39 Yeah. Well, that's the brand. Right, it's a shitty brand. Right, it's a shitty brand. Get a better brand. I mean, he makes a lot of money, so it's a brand that works for a business. Yeah, but that doesn't, making money, like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:49:49 so does a, you know, fentanyl dealer, they make a bunch of money. It doesn't make it good? Like, no. You know, there's tons of people. Indeed. No, you think his head looks like a footman. mall like stewie. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:50:01 Oh. More of a light bulb. Sideway. More of a light bulb. All right. Here we go. Seven Legion suits. Storms this weekend nearly blew my tree
Starting point is 01:50:08 into my neighbor's property. So it had to be cut down, which cost my entire paycheck with bills to pay. Givesendgo.com slash tree of Damocles. I tell you, man. Bro, this wind was crazy. Human on humans one thing. But nature, you want to talk about
Starting point is 01:50:21 what we really need to protect ourselves from? Yeah, no kidding. Nature and non-human animals. Oh, disagree. H.S. Disturb says, We kind of imprisoned a bunch of those. So happy to see my second mom back on Timcast. Bet you don't realize how many kids you helped raise.
Starting point is 01:50:34 Love you, Roseanne. No, I do. I hear it all the time, and I love you right back. Thank you. All right. Let's see. Emmett says, keeping up the tradition, had my third and final baby yesterday,
Starting point is 01:50:46 and managed to catch the noon show just in time. Keep up the good work guys. Wow. Congratulations. Nice job. More babies. Congratulations. Methos says his name is a,
Starting point is 01:50:57 Tucker Carlson it's Tucker Cotarlson the Kia carlson we're we're launching a card game called debate me you're gonna love it it's all the different cards are different political personalities the base set are generic personalities like you have care a Karen is like a level five like establishment so there are four factions left right center and establishment there are 13 levels of debate prowess the the 13th level we call prime because it can be it can lead from the bottom so you can make a uh your the goal is everybody gets two cards that's your starting debate panel everybody starts
Starting point is 01:51:36 at 200 followers and then if you look down here two cards don't anybody see what you has uh if it's a good debate team you say i'm going to invite 50 of my followers to the debate then i look at my cards and if i think my debate team is strong i'll say i'll i will invite 50 of my followers to the debate then we run out three cards to make a debate panel and whoever makes the best five person debate team wins all the followers. It's a collectible card game, therefore it's legal in all jurisdictions to play. I like it. So the question is, we actually do have this. And the reason I bring this up is that Tucker in the game, it's Tucker Katarlson because they're all parodies of individuals. And so the base set is one through 11. Is it one through 11? Or is it? No, I'm sorry. It's
Starting point is 01:52:22 one through nine, I think. Yeah, one through nine are just generic gags. Like, we have, we have racist and racist on the left and the right, but they're just racist, you know, like the Democrats are the real racism, the right winger is the racist. But then once you get to the higher levels, then they're specific personalities. And then we, then we have the ability set, which are, for instance, the level one right winger is bankrupt Alex Jones. And it says, it's, he's sitting down on the street corner holding a sign saying, will call frogs gay for money. And the card says, this card may be played
Starting point is 01:52:57 as any faction of any level. Effectively, Duce is Wild. And so we have different functions of the special card so you can customize your game. Thus, it is a collectible card game, which, to my legal understanding, going through my lawyers, means it's not, in fact, poker.
Starting point is 01:53:11 And it's carved out, an exemption is carved out for collectible card games where children, children are allowed to wage your money to play card games for cash money. And I asked, why are children allowed to gamble? And they said it's not gambling.
Starting point is 01:53:22 It's a collectible card game. And I said, if a child puts $20 down for a game of Pokemon to win $40 in cash prizes, that's not gambling. And they go, no. And I said, okay. So we have a game coming out soon called Debate Me, where if you're lucky, you will get a golden foil one of ten God-emperor Trump card. Indeed. We're going to have special limited-dition cards. And booster packs.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Do you have the best debate panel? It's a point system? Or how to determine the best? So the strongest debater wins. So the first, your best debate team is who has the strongest debater. So if I have Trump on my team, he's prime, he's the highest level possible. That means I beat you. Then beyond that is pairs.
Starting point is 01:54:02 So if I have two level three debaters, that beats your one prime debater. Okay. Then, of course, there's three, you know, a trio will call it. Gotcha. And then, of course, you have a sequence. Then you have when all the same fact, we call that a brigade. Oh, right. Yes.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Is there a master debate or card? So there's no three and two. Oh, yes, yes. Yes, that's a... I don't want to call that word, you know, the phrase. We call that one a full panel. A full panel, right, right, right. And then of course we have the royal flush.
Starting point is 01:54:36 Oh, shit, okay. It doesn't happen, so it's not going to... But the game is real, we actually have... It's like a mashup between poker and top trumps, kind of... And what? Top trumps? Top trumps? You know that game?
Starting point is 01:54:48 What? No. It's just like a kind of like a collectible game and you're just like, it's like a face off. You know, you can do it. We have Pokemon here in the city. So let me just clarify. The common cards that we made that are largely just gags on the culture war, it's literally just a poker set.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Like it's playing cards. There's four factions, there's 52 cards, they're each and they're gags. And you shuffle it up and you can play and you can play any card game you can play. However, the game actually does include rare versions, limited edition, special abilities. So if you, so the God Emperor Trump card, the way it works is, it says if it is your turn, or I'm sorry, it says at Showdown, you may choose to play this, you may choose to play this card as if it was a pair of prime debaters and disregard your second card or disregard any other card, meaning that Trump himself is pocket aces. But you don't have to play him that way. You can choose. Now here's the question.
Starting point is 01:55:43 We talked about balance in the game when we were designing it. Doesn't matter because it's a shared deck game. you can put a card in the deck that literally says you win the hand because you'll shuffle it up and everyone has an equal chance to get it if you choose to play that way. If you want to play Duce is wild, everybody has an opportunity to get a... There's four factions so each of them has their willing to say or do anything card and if you want to play with that you can
Starting point is 01:56:04 or you can make the deck basic and it plays basically like a poker deck and you can play any game you want. Is that a Candace card? Yes. Yeah, I think she... her function has something to do with confusing the stats of your cards or something. We were contemplating making it so that she can change. She's like a reverse wild. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 01:56:28 But the problem, like basically you can make someone else's card a card of any. But the problem is that basically says you win. Because if they have a straight, you can go, nope, now you have nine high. It's like, oh. She's like an agent of chaos card. So we decided not to do that. But we do have a Nancy Pelosi card. And what she does is she makes everybody shuffle up their cards and then so everybody's hands get shuffled together and read the dealt out because she's drunk.
Starting point is 01:56:53 So it's like, oh, and I think it's all confused. And then we have the, it's funny because there's no queens, kings, or whatever, they're just called like 10, 11, 12, and then 13, our prime, it's called. But our queen equivalent on the right is our, is named queen of the right. And it's Mila Annapolis. Love it. Yeah. That's cute. Slal hilarious. Let's get more of your... So is he not gay anymore?
Starting point is 01:57:19 He's ex-gay. He's not smart anymore, either. Meaning he is still attracted to men, but he doesn't act upon it because it is a sin. We were talking a lot about just like sexual, what do you call it, like lust and how that's kind of that sin can creep in. And he says, in the gay community, there's a lot of that. Yeah, it's like, trying to dispel that. We got to grab some more of these. We got Omega Setsu.
Starting point is 01:57:36 He says, Tim, I am black. The reason black fathers are not in the home is not the problem with men. It is the welfare state. women. I don't have kids, but I'd be damned if a one would keep me from mine. Okay. Indeed. Okay. What we got to hear? Hat and Beard says, let's go fellow patriots. Tim, can I get a shout out over here on Rumble? The Hat and Beard Show brings you based NFL content live daily Monday through Friday 10 a.m. on Rumble. Here, here. Check them out. All right.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Forced name change says, I'm going to join the dog pile on Ian over faith versus knowledge. He knows exactly what you're saying, and he knows you're right. He just doesn't want to say it on air. love you Ian one on your dogmatake uh but you didn't say anything except you're wrong and you used like 20 words to do it no but i but i'll say this so in order to make it comprehensible for you my point is you didn't comprehend what i said that's not true it is i i i disbelieve that i i think you said that michael knolls was making a logical argument and then you said he was saying that god is logos did you guys understand my point i did yeah yeah but i also understand eans no no no but Ian's, Ian doesn't understand my point.
Starting point is 01:58:41 Do you understand his point? He doesn't. No. God, he made like 90 points tonight, but which one? Oh, God, not again. There are two human beings. There are two human beings. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:58:52 They both believe two different things. Neither of them have ever actually looked into it. They both accuse each other of being wrong. Then they're Jewish. And they're also Jewish. Now you've been. Now it makes sense. The point.
Starting point is 01:59:09 The point is, everybody thinks they're right. Most people haven't bothered to actually investigate what they think is true. That's true. So that's it. Anyway, let's grab a couple more before we go to the uncensored portion of the show, of course. All right, let's see. Mako says, you guys are idiots, incentivize petty criminals. I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 01:59:30 Okay. All right. Thank you. We'll take it into consideration. Indeed. Is that AI? Let's see. Marushia Dark says, Tim, you're decentralized AI.
Starting point is 01:59:39 jobs program is the plot of the movie Eagle Eye. US government likely has already as military tech is 25 years out of the public according to the late William Cooper. My point was that, so there's already the claw to rent a human where it's like if an AI needs a task done in meat space.
Starting point is 01:59:55 They will, you can say I'm a person I'll work for this much. My point was that there's going to be an app where the AI will be, let's say the AI is building a car. It is substantially faster to decentralize all of the of that car. Actually, let's go McDonald's times 10. McDonald's revolutionized food because you had a
Starting point is 02:00:14 bunch of people doing one simple thing instead of one person trying to do all of these things. It is easier to teach 10 people each to do an individual task than one person to do 10 individual tasks well. The AI is going to amplify that by a thousand. So instead of getting one guy who knows how to design a car, it's going to get 10,000 people to all design one tiny piece or to construct one tiny piece. They won't know exactly what they're making because they can't see the big picture. That was my point. All right. Baseboe says millennial men can't find job to provide for their family. Women are killing their own children and everybody is afraid to go out in public because of all
Starting point is 02:00:50 of these attacks. This war is for Israel. Donald Trump has been trying to get a handle on oil prices and he's trying to get Saudi Arabia back on the petro dollar. The contract ended. Certainly Israel is a motivator and pressured us to kick this war off. because that's what I meant that's what Rubio said that's all true but the reason the U.S. wants to be involved is because Trump is desperately trying to get Saudi Arabia to stop selling oil in one to China and other countries and so Saudi Arabia says we want guarantees and we hate Iran and Trump says I will do whatever you say just do the petro dollar deal again this is why you had that journalists get killed and the U.S. doesn't care this is why you've got
Starting point is 02:01:31 a handful of Saudis implicated in 9-11 and the U.S. government protected them for decades and they're only now being sued. So by all, like I say it for a million times, we shouldn't. I don't think we should be funding Israel. I don't think that that's their business. If they want to be involved in it, I don't want to get involved in wars for any country, be it Ukraine, be it China, Taiwan, whatever it may be. But the people who are claiming the only reason is Israel are allowing the military industrial complex to get away with whatever they want because they're no longer part of the argument. We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show over at what you mean by funding Israel and $2.5 billion a year.
Starting point is 02:02:06 in military subsidies. Yeah, because then they turn around and buy American-made weapons. And we can certainly switch that labor for those manufacturers into roads, bridges, border security, et cetera. The money is still spent on labor. Well, when you're getting attacked on seven fronts by all of your genocidal neighbors. That's Israel, not us. No, I'm saying them.
Starting point is 02:02:28 Yeah. So they have to have a lot of weapons. Of course. So I think that's their business. and I'd rather spend $2.5 billion on border security. But let's go to Rumble.com slash Timcast. I don't disagree with that at all, but I mean, don't you, I mean, I just feel like if America does, that's going to be bad for America,
Starting point is 02:02:49 and I'll explain when we come back. All right, rumble.com slash Timcast IRL. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Rosanne's Mossad handler. Do you want to shut anything out? No, but I got to smoke. I got to get out of the way so she can smoke, apparently. Rosanne's going to go smoke real quick.
Starting point is 02:03:03 So she's, everybody only knows who she is. You know where to find her. She's Rosanneen. Everyone's gonna miss you. Liv, do you wanna shout anything out? Yeah, follow me on Twitter. My name, Liv underscore Bury, and subscribe to me on YouTube.
Starting point is 02:03:15 Also, just my name, find it. Jake, what's the best place people to find you, man? I guess Twitter, I hate social media. I'm sorry, I don't wanna give it away. I gave my Twitter because my wife made me, but I, I'm sorry. I tweeted it, it's out there. You're like an enlightened being.
Starting point is 02:03:35 I wouldn't say I'm enlightened. I've been trolling and arguing on the internet for 20 years. I was kicked off Twitter, probably the first person ever canceled on Twitter. It's not what I thought it was. I was so excited about social media. Now I hate it. I reduce text, increase video. If you're going to produce, do it with video so that your voice can vibrate and change people's emotions.
Starting point is 02:03:55 Otherwise, you just stuck etching writings on a wall like 2,000 years ago. So get back to making video, man. It's amazing tech. Or just raise your... kids and be happy and such a good dad i i love mike i love being a dad ladies gentlemen follow me at ean crossland all over the internet go to graphing dot movie check out the new documentary that i am building right now with six seven kevin andrace nicholas graphing dot movie and i am at ean crossland carter banks what's up everyone follow me at carter banks everywhere
Starting point is 02:04:21 some of music on acts of carter banks and uh check out me and ian's live sessions at trash house records on youtube um let's go hey for rosan bar follow me uh the real rosan Yeah, and the podcast, Roseanne Barr podcast. I would love to shout that out. Indeed. We'll see you all over at rumble.com slash Timcast, IRL in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out.

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