Timcast IRL - Trump Orders New Census, Demands Illegal Immigrants Excluded w/ Tony Ortiz

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

Tate, Libby, Carter, & Sean are joined by Tony Ortiz to discuss Trump ordering a new census to be counted, the Texas GOP blocking direct depsoit payments for Democrats who fled the state,  a DC Police Commander placed on leave after falsifying crime data, and reports that Steve Bannon is planning a run for president.   Hosts:  Tate @RealTateBrown (X) Libby @LibbyEmmons (X) Carter @CarterBanks (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Tony Ortiz @CurrentRevolt (X)

Good evening, everybody. Producer Tate here, Tate Brown, holding it down. Our fearless leader, Tim Poole, is down for the count. His throat is gone. And we need him locked in for the culture we're live this weekend. So I'm here. I'm holding it down. And I see you. I see what you're doing. You're hovering your finger on the X button. That's not right. You got to give me a chance. You got to let me cook a little bit. You got to let me operate. So at least give us like 10 minutes. And then if you don't like it, then you can do whatever you're going to do anyway. But we got some massive stories tonight. So you're going to want to stick around. The first one, get your calculator, get your abacus. It's census time. Trump wants a new census, and he's going to get one. Maybe. We'll get into it. Redistricting's obviously been in the news recently, and it's heating up. Trump wants to go in.

He's demanding that we get a new census. We've got to count because there's a lot of illegals in the country. There's a lot of states that are overcounted, and a lot of states that were undercounted. We got to get it right. So we're going to get into that. We also have the Texas redistricting situation heating up. We just had a memo sent out to how. reps that members that have broken the quorum have to head back to Texas to get their checks.

So it's a little bit of a standoff, a Texas standoff. The Dems in flight aren't too bright deep in the heart of Texas. I came up with that about 30 seconds ago, tough crowd. Anyway, also, D.C. is a total disaster zone. Nothing's new there. We all know this. It's a blue city. But we got an interesting story.

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I don't know. I think you're a good omen. I think it's the third time I've been here, actually. Oh, there we were. Yeah, so it was the first time with you, though. Right, okay. Yeah, we were chatting earlier in the week about Texas stuff. We were, we were.

Yeah, if you were catching the morning live shows, you would have seen Tony on there cooking. But, yeah, who are you what you do? Yeah, Tony Ortiz. I'm a publisher for Current Revolt. We are kind of like a national inquire for Texas News, Texas Political News. and published a lot of really great breaking stories and kind of insider stuff going on at the Capitol. I've been doing it for about five years, and you can follow us on Twitter at current revolt or current revolt.com. Cool. Love it. We also got producer Sean in the house, guys. Thanks for having me.

If you're still here after seeing Tate's face, thank you very much. Yeah, thank you. I'm on hashtag give Tate a chance. Really? That's a beautiful thing. You know, I've been pushing that since high school. I know. And no one's listening. It's okay. But yes, thank you. Thank you for being here. Typically, I'm doing the clips for the show, so tonight, no clips. Sorry about that, but follow us. Timcast News. It's true.

We've got Carter in the cut. What's up? Carter Banks here, Timcast music producer and audio engineer and trash house records. Tate, this is your first, is this first Tate cast? This is the first Tate Cast. Wow. Tater, Tartan. I'm a part of it.

And welcome, Tony. Thanks for having me. Also from Texas. That's a beautiful thing. What part? Dallas. Oh, same. Oh, yeah.

Wow. Cool, man. Small world. Like neighbors. Yeah. So we got Libby hanging out. Legendary Libby. I'm Libby Emmons.

I'm filling in for Phil, which is always exciting for me. So this is great. I'm on team give Tate a Chance as well. I'm with the post millennial and human events, and let's get into it. Let's do it. Well, let's get to this first story from the New York Times. Trump demands census excluding undocumented immigrants amid redistricting fight. President Trump said Thursday that he had ordered the Commerce Department to begin work

on a new census that excludes undocumented immigrants. as he and his allies press Republican-led states to redraw their congressional maps to benefit the party. A new census would be a significant departure from a process stipulated by the Constitution to occur every 10 years. Historically, the census has counted all U.S. residents, regardless of their immigration status, a process that helps determine both the allotment of congressional seats and billions of dollars in federal money sent to states. Quote, people who are in our country illegally, in all caps, will not be counted in the census, quote, Mr. Trump wrote in a post on social media. Guys, do you think we're going to get redistricting?

You mean mid-decade redistricting? Do you think this is going to work out how we think it is? Well, all the states have their own rules about it, right? As we're seeing with Texas, that can call a special session and try and get down to it. California and New York both have independent commissions that are responsible to do redistricting, and they're supposed to do it in accordance with the census, which is every 10 years. Gavin Newsom has threatened to try and undertake redistricting with a ballot measure. Kathy Hokel has done something similar.

You also had more Haley in Massachusetts threatening to do redistricting to further marginalize the entirely marginalized conservative voices in Massachusetts because of all nine congressmen from Massachusetts, not a single one as a Republican. There are no Republican districts. There's pretty much no Republican districts, I think, except a couple in Maine maybe in the entirety of New England. I like this idea of getting a census that counts Americans. I'd like to know how many of us there are. I think that would be really great. And it would be cool to see what the breakdown is. You know, I imagine it would be, you know,

mostly white and black and probably a little Hispanic as well in terms of like what the majority citizenry is. Well, I got an opposite. That would be pretty interesting to hear. I got an opposite take on this. I don't think illegals were ever filling out the census to begin with. I think like I agree I do want to see the census I want to see the sense it's more from the the fact of what the actual COVID numbers were because like some people were saying you know million deaths oh in some people you know people are saying more people are dying from COVID people are right saying less people are dying for COVID so I'm more interested in that but I don't think illegal immigrants ever took the census well no they was a huge push in 2020 and I think under Obama for immigrants illegal immigrants to fill out the census. They were even providing them in Spanish.

Yeah, they were. They were actively asking immigrants and Hispanics to fill this thing out. And it specifically didn't have the citizenship question. I made a big deal about that, too. But you have to understand these people are here legally. They don't trust police at all. You know what I mean? I mean, I understand what you're saying.

I'm Barack Obama. Oh, I'm cool. I play basketball or whatever. Just because, you know, like, they're not going to trust him. You know what I mean? The form just goes to your house. And then you just send it in. Yeah, they came door to door.

Yeah, it was about the same. Yeah, they were going to door. I just don't answer your door. But that's not, I mean, I'm sure some illegal immigrants did not take the census, but I bet a bunch of them did. It's going to be interesting to find out. You know? And in terms of Texas, I'm super interested about redistricting what that would look like because didn't Texas get like 1.3 million more people or something since 2020? And, you know, it's going to be a big deal.

We're supposed to pick up, I think it's like five more seats. Well, that's the idea. Republican seats off of this? Do you think it's going to work or do you think it's going to backfire? You mean the redistricting? Yeah. They're going to get it. Yeah.

This is all posturing by the Democrats. Like they've done this before where they've left the state twice. They fled, right? In 2000, I think it was like 2002, they fled for redistricting them. And we still got it passed. And then in 2000, I think it was 20 Republicans passing laws to, for straight voter restriction laws and voter identification laws. And they left claiming that was racist, of course. And we got that passed.

And now they're doing it again. And we're going to get it passed. They're using it as a fundraiser. And of course, Republicans are too. But Democrats are using this as a fundraiser way to show that they're fighting because this is a very big deal. How much do you trust the data? Maybe Tate, you can answer.

How much do you actually trust the census data? It's difficult to trust the census data. We actually have it here. This was from Aiden Buzetti. He was commentating on this today. The 2020 census significantly overcounted blue states and undercounted red states. Rhode Island and Minnesota both kept a seat they shouldn't have or they should have lost. Colorado got a new seat they shouldn't have at all.

Florida lost out in two seats, Texas on one. You can see here, I mean, among overcounts, they're saying Hawaii, Utah, Minnesota, Ohio, Delaware, New York, Rhode Island, Massachusetts. Obviously, Ohio and Utah are the only red states there. And as far as undercounts go, we had Texas, Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, Florida, and Illinois. Illinois being the only blue state. So if you look at overcounts and undercounts, this obviously favored Democrats quite heavily. Yeah, I think it often favors Democratic states heavily, you know. And I think Democratic states are also the ones where you have the most illegal immigrants, right?

California, New York, Illinois. You can throw in Texas and Florida for like the odd ones out. I mean, I just don't even trust the government to run the government. I mean, they're always running out of money. Sure. I mean, if you're going to be blackpilling, that's the kind of thing you're going to have. No, no, I'm just saying. Like, I don't trust them to do anything, like construction, running companies, like literally anything.

They don't do anything. Well, they're not supposed to run any companies. So, like, I guess maybe, maybe since you're the smartest of us, how does the census data actually work? Is it like the old school rating system where it's like they sample, like a small sample and like expound it? No, it's literally they try and count every single person with a form. So they go, like Carter was saying, they go door to door. They go to every house. You're at home.

They'll come back. Right. And also like if you don't fill out your census by mail, they'll come find you. And they try and count every single person. One thing that's been really interesting about the census is how they keep changing the questions, right? So citizenship used to be on the census, and now it's not. I think that's right, Tony. And then you also have a situation where they used to ask race differently, right?

Like, I don't remember what those questions were, but I know race used to be asked in different forms. It was like race or ethnicity. Race or ethnicity. Yeah. And so now it's like I think you can fill out Asian American Pacific Islander, which I don't know how all of those things are the same. That seems very weird. Well, they do it now where it's these broad categories and you can identify yourself with the sub. So, like, you could, Asian Pacific Islander, but then you can say I'm Laotian, but a lot of people don't bother with the second part.

And so it ends up. But they also, they don't have, like, I remember filling out the census in 2020. And there was white and non-Hispanic white. Right. Yeah, yeah. When I buy a firearm in Texas, I have to fill out a form each time. And it, like, I have no choice but to fill out white. And I was joking with the guy.

You have to fill out your race to buy a firearm. Yeah, yeah, you do a background check. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah. Democrats think you can just walk in. just grab a firearm it's not not that easy but plus like why does the government need to know the race of the people buying weapons i assume it's for like uh like when you commit if you commit a crime right and that's what i was talking about with the the guy at the shop i was like so i'm filling this out

and i have to fill out white in this portion in this portion just as white and i said so if i were to commit a crime with this would it be labeled as a white crime and he's like yeah and i'm very clearly brown right and it's just very odd yeah they even like if you're like um egyptian you identify white, like most Arab and Middle East and North African also identify as white. Like, a lot of Cubans identify as white also. Well, that's the whole idea of Hispanic as a categorization is just totally redundant because it's like Leonel Messi is 100% Italian, but he classifies as Latino. If his parents moved to, or if his grandparents moved to New Jersey, he would be white. So it's like, what's going to get? They should have. When Spaniards come

here, it's like, no, now you're Mexican. They should have did Latino or Latinx. And then we'd see which one, you know what I mean? Which one actually people prefer? And I don't think it's Latin X. I mean, Tony knows. Yeah, I don't think it's you talk to most Hispanics. They don't They don't even know what it is. They actually, it's funny the left like, created a colonization of the language. Yeah. So you kind of like flip that on them. It's like, oh, you're colonizing

the Spanish language. Oh, that's fascinating. It's like, it is appropriation. It is like, it is colonialist to remake the language to get rid of the, you know, feminine or masculine addicts. Yeah, and it's all these white liberals pushing it. Every time. Every time.

Latin X. So what do you think? Tate, what's the chat saying about the census? Do they trust the government? Well, I don't think it's, I mean, you think you have to trust the government in this situation. What are you going to do not have a census? I think we do need a census, and I think that there should be a citizenship question, and I think we need to know how many Americans there are. And then I think that House of Representatives apportionment should be based on the number of citizens and not just the number of people. Right. Well, you had the, I mean, you had in 2019 when Trump tried to do this the first time, as the Supreme Court said, no, this is not a matter of law. We're not resolving a

constitutional quagmire. This is politically motivated. This go around since hypothetically Trump has five years to get this done, he can he can take his time here. They can actually put together a really good case to circumvent any court intervention. Democrats don't want this, right? There was this account refined populist on Twitter and they were saying that if if they do this and they properly measure for the seats that Democrats, it could cost Democrats 42 seats. Right. And so this is brutal for them if they if they lose this. The last time citizenship was on the census was 1950.

Wow. How interesting. Yeah. I would, I guess it kind of calls BS a little bit on our technology because don't you think at this point we should be beyond the fact of somebody having to knock on a door to your account? I think paper is the best way to do a count. I feel like it's going to have satellites.

They already know the number that you're supposed to give them. They just want to see if you got it. Okay. Oh, okay. That's like the taxes. We file your taxes and you get it wrong. Exactly. And they're like, no, we know how much you owe.

But what about like the satellites orbiting Earth that can literally just look right into homes? We don't have that tech? I don't think that paper is a good way to do it. And I think all our voting should be on paper and properly tallied by counting papers. Yeah. We saw how that happened with the 2020 election. No, they didn't do that. That was mail-in balloting.

Oh, yeah, the mail-in. Okay, it was still paper-based, though. Well, Nancy Pelosi came out in like what, April or Mayloning. of that year of 2020 and was like, we're going to have to do all mail and ballots to protect us from COVID. And I remember. Nancy Mace? No, Nancy Pelosi.

Did I say Nancy? It was all of them. My ear is a mess. All the dead. In person in 2020? That's wild. Yeah. What?

I still voted in person in 2020. I hadn't voted in person too. And there was like nobody there. Well, that was kind of like the Republicans shot themselves in the foot for a while because they were like, only vote in person and only vote in election day. That's how we stick it to them. Oh, it's such a bad idea. And it would just like knock out one election.

The cost is like 10,000 votes. The worst thing they push is that everybody should vote on Election Day. Like, you should early vote. Yeah, absolutely. I would challenge you on that to it a little bit and say, how do you know? How do you know that that was a bad strategy? Because are you of the opinion that maybe the counts or maybe messed with? Well, I mean, we have out of our control?

Multiple underwhelming midterm results. And I mean, I guess you could attribute it to some nefarious. The midterm wizards. No, go ahead. Sorry. In Houston, they had an issue in Texas where they ran out of like ballots and some places to shut down on voting day, so you actually had a lot of, right, a lot of Republicans that allegedly didn't get a chance to vote because they all stupidly waited until voting day.

If you, you have like, what, five weeks, five days of early voting? There's plenty of time to early vote. And I think even in Texas, a lot of offices will, businesses will give the employees off to, like, go vote. They'll give you extra time. You don't have to just go on your lunch. Yeah, I think some places it's even like a, it's like a holiday, right? For some places.

I kind of support Twitter polls. I think that's, I think, listen. I think that's just as good as a government. No, that's ridiculous. It's just as good as the government. It's ridiculous because you can't force all Americans to have a Twitter account unless you federalized Twitter, and that's a crap idea. Well, Elon took everyone's ID so he knows who's American and who isn't, so we can actually take those polls. Yeah, but that's only the limited number of people who are on Twitter.

I'm just saying. I trust Elon more in the government. If Twitter with its hundreds of millions of users. The voting, I do. If they left it to only Americans with their hundreds of millions of accounts on X, there would be like 10,000 Americans on there. I don't trust the government. That's what I mean. So it'll be like a $5,000, yes.

I would get all the people I went to Blue Sky back on Twitter. Oh, and had to get back on to vote? Yeah. And if X had, I mean, the America Party would wash everyone out of the water. I mean, you kidding me? I think Mackie was ahead of his time. Who, Doug Mackey? Yeah, I think he was ahead of his time.

Yeah, Doug was in. I think there's going to be a text to vote soon. Is that what he's saying? Well, that was to. I don't think there will be a text. I hope not. I think it's going to be. I think it's going to be like American Idol and every other reality show eventually it's going to be.

I certainly hope the federal government doesn't become more of a reality show than it already is. You literally have a reality show president. Let's jump. That's why I said more of. I'm not as good as Tim as like breaking the- Sorry, sorry, Jay. Got to be louder. Yes, sir.

All right. The next story, we got a big story here. This is out of Texas. Burrow, Dustin Burrow, the speaker, he just sent a memo out to house reps saying that quorum breaking members must pick up their pay in person via check. No direct deposit allowed. Guys, this is hilarious. That would bring me back to the state.

Super funny. Well, to cover that, it's only like 700 bucks a month. Oh, really? A lot of these reps are very, like, independently wealthy. Where do they get their money? Right. So, you know, well, you know, there are a lot of them are lawyers or real estate agents and things like that. But I was talking to one of my favorite staffers and she was like, well, actually a lot of these Democrats are like broke as heck, actually. So they're living off of this like $700, $600 stipend they get every month. Yeah. Wow.

So you actually, you may see some come back. But you've also got a bigger. issue where you've got a lot of these lefty nonprofits that are actively funding these Democrats fleeing our state, which has been a huge issue. The Beto O'Rourke's nonprofit was it powered by the people was actively soliciting

Democrats to leave the state and they were like, we'll fund you, we will give you money, we'll pay for your hotel, you're lodging, your travel, and now Attorney General Ken Paxson is pursuing that and Governor Greg Abbott as like a bribery issue, right?

Because that is an issue. If you're paying people to break quorum, like, you're bribing them to do something. And it becomes a federal issue where it's happening across state lines because they're fleeing to Illinois, New York, and other states. And so, like, this is a genuine problem for Democrats. And I don't think that they thought far enough ahead. And the whole thing, they're going to pass this redistricting. And I just don't think that Democrats really plan this out very well.

Do you think it's a good thing this redistricting? Absolutely. And, you know, you kind of look at the current maps. they're already kind of goofy and they're complaining about these new maps and they're of course they're always going with the racist thing and the racist thing is so tried out

like nobody cares. That's what Jasmine Crockett keeps going on about. Yeah, of course, and of course she is. And then the bigger issue is that especially Hispanic men in Texas, the Browns, like they're supporting Republicans now. Like the Democrats are losing this voting base of Hispanics.

And I don't think they know how to cope with that. They're going to be left with just kind of like the blacks and the white liberals as like Hispanics start to trend more to vote Republican. And Democrats are just bored with, or I'm sorry, Hispanics are just bored with the rhetoric for Democrats and the weird stuff with the LGBTQ nonsense. Yeah.

I mean, I agree with them docking their pay. They shouldn't be getting paid if they're not doing their job. I mean, it's a huge slap in the face to everyone that has to, you know, work a job every day. And it's our money that they're stealing, essentially. So, yeah, definitely not paying them, I think makes sense. But like you say, it's not a lot of. money to them and they're getting more money hiding out in Illinois from the governor and all the

whatever else wherever they're hanging in the hotels and five-star stuff and the five-star treatment so like I don't think it does much but it's you know it's something to get them back um arresting them I don't like it either because they want to get arrested you know we're talking about that that would be that would be a margin they want that they're like oh my god I've gone viral so my five minutes of fame or whatever and it's like no like so like what is the solution then you get more Gavin Newsom, you get more J.B. Pritzker, you get more, more a healy. The solution is removing them from their seat. It's like, okay. Isn't that what Kenhatsu threatening? I thought they needed a hundred in Texas. Well, that's, we had this story from the Texas Tribune. Paxton asks Illinois courts

to enforce Texas arrest warrants against Democrats who left the state. Obviously, this kind of seems like a bit of a long shot to try and get Illinois to enforce this. I'm maybe some sort of federal mechanism that could be used. I don't know. But I don't know. I think this could backfire to some degree on Republicans because there'd be nothing greater than being prosecuted by Trump and be part of the resistance and that sort of thing and they need a hundred to do business right? Because we had Briscoe on the show. Well

if you vacate a sea, I think it removes that quorum requirement. Okay. So like it's not. Yes, exactly. So I believe so. I could be wrong. Brisco said we had Briscoe on and he said you need a hundred to do business. Yeah, you do but I believe if the sea gets vacate or if they remove them from the sea and again

I could be wrong. I believe it doesn't go It doesn't count towards Yeah, maybe somebody can Patriot fact check That's true in the house Patriot check, I love it Yeah, so we'll see But to what you're saying

Like you're right, it's an absolute amazing fundraising opportunity Like you went, if you're a Democrat I went to jail for you Yeah, exactly Right? And like they'll be in jail For like what a week

At most? Yeah, at most If even a night If that even happens, right? Like absolutely So they want to be jailed And then they'll sue. Yeah, and then they'll sue

And they'll fundraise off that. So what is the solution then, Libby? What is the solution? The rest isn't going to work and docking their pay isn't going to work. What do we do? I think docking their pay probably might work. I think that's going to, I think that will probably get people back. Really? I think so. Yeah, I think also people have responsibilities at home. They can't just stay away forever. They're Democrats. They don't have a family.

I think it was Senator Mays Middleton in Texas and actually Briscoe Kane in the House that introduced bills that if you are, if you have, I think it was seven or ten consecutive unexcused absences that you automatically vacate your seat. Can you imagine that how many? How many is that again? It was like seven or ten. Like most jobs, it's two or three. Right. And you're out. Yeah, there's definitely been like over COVID and stuff. People refusing to come in.

There was a city council person in Worcester, Massachusetts, who was like, I was discriminated against because I'm not binary. I can't come to work anymore. And somehow she still kept her position for a very long time. I have nothing but disdain for government workers. We don't have to get into it on this show, maybe in the after show, but I got big. well the people who actually are government servants I think that's important servant I wouldn't use that word that's their job I had to go to the post office I had to go to the post office recently someone that does nothing like the government is there to serve us and we have to remember that be dehumanized you go to the DMV oh my and even they're like an example of like a good government employee because at least they have to during COVID you could at least make an appointment and they were like really strict about being on time but yeah other than at least they're there in the office most government employees

employees aren't even in the office. I went to the post office recently and like nobody speaks English. There's like one person at the desk. There's 20 people in line. Everybody looks like they want to kill themselves. Oh, yeah. It has to be racially diverse by the government standards and local government. If you don't have a certain amount of percentage under the Democrats, you didn't get funding.

Is that why it's like that in post office? No, they got rid of that. Trump just got rid of that. Under the Democrats. Yeah, now it's gone. Bring back tests of meritocracy to like to pitch anything to any local government to get any kind. you know, work with them in any capacity. It's like you had to be like 40% women, you know, 30% black.

And you had to show it. It certainly depends on the locality. It certainly depends on that. And like if it's a contract or something. Even in Democrat cities and, you know, regions, it's still that way. Yeah. In Dallas, we had a thing where like you, you get access to earlier bids, like earlier, early access to bids for government projects if you are a minority-based business.

So I've met business owners that like, I knew this business owner that, um, his, wife was black and obviously female and he's she he worked for a tech he owned a tech company she knew nothing about technology but he literally just put it in her name so that it could be the mw women owned black business so you can get all the maxing yeah yeah that's a huge thing like in new york too with contracts for any city work you have to have to submit for like a you know an architectural construction engineering project you have to uh meet all of these quotas and a lot of there's a lot of projects that are you can only submit for if you are a certified minority or women-owned business.

You know what I'm curious about though? It's like Texas is now starting to trend. I think Hispanics are the majority in Texas. So like if you're a white, do you qualify now for minority benefits? That would be awesome. That would be funny. They cut Asians. They said Asians are not minorities for these purposes because the engineering construction,

the engineering and architecture fields are already too full of Asians. So if you're Asian, you're not a minority. Where's the schools labeling Asians is white? Yeah. Wasn't Harvard doing that? Yeah. Well, it's like if you live in Hawaii and it's like 15% white and then you're just getting discriminated against you. Any, anytime I meet someone that's from Harvard, I'll be like, so you hate Asians.

And Jews. They really, oh, the Jews. No, the Asians are like way out. Yeah, they need to start screwing up some of the math problems so they can get back in the minority. Exactly, exactly. Like pretend like you're stupid. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

Yeah, what? Yeah, I don't know. Two plus two is five. exactly that's up the woke stuff that's on them that so you can't you learn this when you work retail is you got to be just right above average but not like good at your job just got to be like right in that sweet spot right they're learning the hard way you can't go too hard in the paint right now we know what kind of employee t is so well yeah that might have been a mask off moment but uh we got another story here from the post millennial uh dc police

commander placed on leave over deliberately falsifying crime data as attention has turned to washington dc and crime in the district in the wake of a former doja employee being attacked. It has been revealed that a commander with the Metropolitan Police Department was placed on paid administrative leave in mid-May after being accused of falsifying crime data. Commander Michael Pullium, pillium, pillium. I think it's Pullium. But if you scroll down, look at what the police union had said about this guy. Wait, wait. Libby wrote it. No, I didn't. Hannah wrote it. There it is. When our members respond to the scene of a felony offense where there is a victim, no scroll back up. Where is that? Where there is a victim reporting that a felony

occurred. Inevitably, there will be a lieutenant or a captain that will show up on that scene and direct those members to take a report for a lesser offense. So instead of taking a report for a shooting or a stabbing or a carjacking, they will order that officer to take a report for a theft or an injured person to the hospital or a felony assault, which is not the same type of classification. So what they're saying is when there's a crime, a captain will show up when the police are doing their job and be like, you know what, this wasn't a carjacking. This was just pushing somebody down. So what's the motivation for that?

The motivation for that would be to have decrease in criminal staff. And then you get more money. Well, then it doesn't look like your city's that bad. So now like, oh, the Democrats are doing a great job. Yeah. Cook in the books. Cooking the books to make it look like the crime isn't as bad. And I was talking to, this is D.C.

This is D.C. And I was talking to post-millennial staff. Hannah Nightingale who wrote this story who used to live in D.C. And she was telling me that she's seen crazy stuff at the Navy Yard with just like gangs of teenagers going around harassing people

and doing all kinds of crazy stuff. Which DC is, you know, DC is a mess anyway and it has very poor leadership and that's why Trump is trying to federalize it. But I thought that was absolutely crazy that this is what officers would do. A captain, a lieutenant.

Well, I mean, we've all known. dirty cops. I mean, you know, I don't know any cops. Well, I know, I've known a lot of police officers. I know zero cops. This is like a different kind of dirty because usually dirty cop it goes the other way. They beat the crap out of you. And then plant something on you. This is like they're not being. And then they get paid off by the mob or something. This is a lot of beating. This is like not enough beating the crap out of it. Yeah, when we were growing up in Chicago, they'd plant stuff on usually they can write you a ticket. Now they're like, we could use a little planning actually in this situation. I'm curious like, is he getting paid to do this? Because why would

you put your job at risk? What is he getting in return for falsifying? He's getting something in exchange to falsify data. It must be the culture of the Metro PD. You're not just doing it because you like Democrats. But it's like it must be the culture of the Metro PD. But it's like a school, if you're the teachers in a school, right, so the police officers are the teachers

you want it to look like the kids are doing good for the school. If they're all lying together, then it's like, oh, we're giving the testing. Exactly. Exactly. It's like it's the brotherhood working together. Be like, oh, this city's totally safe. Tourism should, you know, like...

I come to D.C. I come to D.C. And then big balls. Maybe you get better, um, maybe you get better raises if it turns out that you, the crime hasn't been that bad. Exactly. And the mayor award your department. You can sell your houses for more because the area is nice.

I mean, it's not a state, but yeah. Well, that's, uh... Property values go up. Yeah. Right. Because, I mean, that's been the proposal, obviously, this is older news now, but Trump going in and federalizing the district. And Scott Greer was on last night.

We were talking about it. And he was like, well, you know, it's not even if they want it, it's to help the D.C. residents. And I'm like, I don't even really care about the D.C. residents. I care about the 10,000 or so patriots that are working in the city. They should be able to go to and fro from patriot institutions free of any trouble. Like, seeing big balls go down like that really hurt. But yeah, we got a good point on this article. As of Thursday, D.C. police statistics said that violent crime is down 26% from the same period in 2024. And all crime is down 7%. Again, as we say, that's cap.

It's absolutely cap. Well, we were watching Fox News before the show, and they did a segment on races and violence, which is kind of wild to see on the Will Kane show. But it was like they're breaking down crimes by race over the last six years or whatever. And it showed like in 2024, like black crime actually went down and white crime went up in the, it was D.C., right, the stats that they were showing. So it was kind of, it was interesting. So like, I don't know if that ties into what we're talking about here, but I thought, because I saw that graphic. I was like, oh, it's interesting.

So, like, it was like white crime was low, low, low, low, low, and then 2024 it jumps, and the black crime was high, high, high, high, and then 2024 it drops. Do you think that's accurate? I don't know. Like, we're looking at this story right here. So that would imply that the police are falsifying racial crime data. Well, I think that's possible to you. Yeah.

Yeah. The other thing, too, in D.C. is 50% of D.C. carjacking arrests were of minors who were as young as 12 years old. That's in Milwaukee. 56% of carjacking. Well, that's Milwaukee, too. So, like, in Milwaukee, they actually started this thing with the, I don't know, if you guys heard of the Kia cars. Yeah, the Kia Boys.

You've heard of the Kia Boys. So for those in the audience that don't know, it's a bunch of teenagers. I figured out how to jailbreak Kiyas by literally just removing a steering column and putting in a USB cord and turning it like a key. But they figured this out in Milwaukee and now it's like traveled to different cities to the point where like you can't get a car insured, a Kia car insured in Milwaukee. It was that bad. You can't get it in at all. It wasn't just key. It was Hyundai.

It was Ki and Hyundai. It was all the Korean manufacturers. I think they faced a big lawsuit because of that. And one of the guys, I'm forgetting the guy's name is Mike. I forget what the YouTuber's name was, but he went out and did, he interviewed the Kia boys, and they were all 17 and under. And they said, the reason we do it is because it's fun or whatever and they're crazy. And also, they only get a misdemeanor. Yeah, and I think if they're underage, they walk out of jail the same day.

They get sealed. Like, nobody, if they're trying for a job, you can't see it. So as long as they're 17 and under. So, like, you know, Tim talks about this, too. It's come up on the show a lot, but adults will train kids to do these crimes for them in order to, you know, like... Yeah, just like Oliver, just like Fagan. Yeah, that's why you've got to go out there the parents with these people. So, like, these kids, these criminal kids, like, oh, yeah, harsher punishment's great.

We need to go after the parents. The parents should be in jail. Do you think that parents should be prosecuted for their children's crimes? Yes, absolutely. We saw that with Ethan Crumbly's parents in Michigan, the school shooter. Both his parents went to prison. for that. 100%

parents in jail. Unless the parents have taken the act of like what is it called when you separate the kid what is that called? Emancipation. They're emancipated fine

if the kid's like a devil child Damian or whatever fine but like otherwise parents jail like immediately like get them in jail. What if you can't find any any link between what if it was like parents

and they've been doing a good job? Doesn't matter sure it's responsibility it's just like in the school it's like you hear this with the police you hear it in schools oh these kids bad why are they bad it's the parents it's not society I think there are also

I think there are also people who like do bad things of course and like no matter how good the parents is doesn't matter once they're under 18 like and they'll kill their parents like then I mean there's places you can put your kids if they're killing people you know what I mean like it's up to you to take like if they're also in jail though because after they

they would have already done it so that's what I'm saying yeah like you can put them in military school how do you solve that you can put them in military school you can put them in ROTC you can like there's things you can do. They should remove the government benefits from families that are whose kids are like committing these crimes that they're exceptionally violent like you don't buy for snap

anymore or you get a deduction in that. Something like that. I love it. If you're not going to put them in jail you just hit their pocketbook. Yes. Punish them. Take even more of the Kool-Aid or whatever the hell they're buying away from the EBT card or whatever. You know? Yeah. Well I mean that's what Will Kane was suggesting

earlier when we were watching Foxx because it's like the thing that you can't dance around and everyone wants to dance around is there is unfortunately there's a racial element to this I mean that's what you see over and I'm not even talking about the race I'm just talking about like poor kids said Kool-Aid well okay what are you gonna say only only one race drinks Kool-Aid I love Kool-Aid too Jim Jones was a white guy and he poisoned his whole

with Kool-Aid from it's bizarre like me and a lot we were in D.C. like two weeks ago and we were walking around and there was like a group of like 30 35 black teens just wandering around the city and there'd be like four or five cops just trailing them at all times and like if there were a group of like 30 to 35 white kids running around DC, like knocking stuff over and beating cars, they'd be like

start camps up, yeah, like, it'd be insane. And I mean, it's unfortunate, but yeah, there absolutely is like a cultural element to these stories as well, these beatings that they seem to only be tolerated in certain groups. I think a lot of it is, it's just like the woke, the woke always try and put it on racial lines, racial lines, racial

lines, but I don't think it's, I think part of it's racial lines, but I think the bigger part of it is economic lines. I think... That's a very, very liberal argument. I'm a 90s Democrat. Well, if you look at the statistics, the up the highest tax bracket of black Americans is a higher crime rate

than the lowest tax bracket of white Americans. All I'm saying is like kids that are in really I was one of them. I was homeless. They were homeless. I was homeless twice when I was a kid. Like we really grew up on the tough side of Chicago, you know, like... Are you for Chicago? Yeah, yeah. Same. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I was on the south side and then eventually on the north side, which was nice.

But, yeah, I mean, it's tough. Like, when you don't have any options, you don't have any opportunities. Like, you really, like, everyone always worked, you know, it's like, oh, abortions, abortions, abortions. But it's like when these kids are in these, like, horrible situations, like, they really don't have options. And then they turn to, like, selling drugs and, like, stealing cars. Well, it is interesting because the only parents that have been prosecuted for their children's crimes have been white parents. Yeah, that's crazy. You do it in some high schools where it's like, if your kid's truant, you go to jail.

Right. I've seen that before. That's like, what is that, like the restorative justice stuff? It works. Yeah. It works. If they work their goal is to like make money from, you know, going after the parents and get fees and get funds, that's what they do. I've seen it like countless times in L.A., well, they won't go and arrest somebody that's clearly doing something illegal because they know that this guy can't pay for anything.

They're not able to provide any fees and then they just, like, why would they even waste their time? They don't, they look at it as like, oh, this is paperwork that's going to go nowhere. It's going to some of chasing tail for no reason. I knew a lot of people, especially in Chicago, their winter plan was a little bit. committing a crime because they got to go to jail and get three, what they call it, like three, three hots in a car. Three hot, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's because there's been just this massive warping of what the purpose of prison

is because I think most people right and left view prison as a form of rehabilitation or perhaps even a form of like removing them from the situation. But the point of prison is incapacitation. Like you're trying to incapacitate a criminal from committing a crime because unfortunately criminal behavior is very easy to predict and like the reaffirm. offense rate is very high. The actual ability for prisons to rehabilitate is very minimal, like I said, because criminals do repeat criminal behaviors. There's a certain disposition of someone that's a criminal. So trying to seek rehabilitation is kind of pointless. Yeah, like I said,

the view is to incapacitate the criminal before they harm more people. To remove from what, public society or polite society almost. Right. And it's like I said earlier, it's like they have this we have this like bizarre thing that happens in court where they'll plead insanity and that like reduces their sentence and it's like if you're insane that's the best reason to go to jail is like I'm so insane that I can't possibly function in society it's like that's actually the best reason to remove someone but instead because we have this false view of prison that it's like a form of rehabilitation we're just going to keep doing this dance around and around again where we can't actually clean our cities up we've also gone way too far to the rehabilitation side and we have dispensed

in a lot of cases with punishing criminals because we just look at how do we help the criminals instead of how do we prevent more victims of these criminals and a lot of the people who go to prison like they've been doing this stuff for a long time there are multiple crimes multiple multiple victims and it doesn't make any sense to continue to try and like

you remember the three strikes in your out thing wasn't that a Bill Clinton thing it was like if you get three convictions then you're just in jail there's no more hope for you and I think that at a certain point there probably is not a lot of hope for you if you're not going to turn it around

nobody can turn it around for you I'll defend people I get caught in the system like they're listen it's everyone's choices and they make decisions but sometimes when you do get caught in the system it is hard to get out because the expectations and the things they put these people through

is really hard like they... Sure but you don't need to keep violently assaulting people I understand I'm just saying it is hard to get out of the system sometimes when you're in it I've seen it but it's not hard to not kill people though No, of course not. But I guess my point is it's more, it goes back to, like, people will bring up, oh, let's bring back the insane asylums.

I don't like that either, because it's our tax money going to a sane asylum. Nowadays, it's easier not to fall into that. Like, there's so many lefty nonprofits and organizations that are willing to reward people who do bad things. And, like, we reported on a story recently. There's this woman who's a DACA recipient, and she's been charged with all sorts of drug offenses and all that. And she raised $60,000.

No, she was going to get deported. She raised $60,000. Oh, that's great. Like, there's plenty of organizations that reward bad behavior. So I think, to your point, maybe back in the day, it was harder to get out of the system. But now, like, you commit a crime. There's so many, so much opportunity for you to succeed or to change your life around. Yeah, that's fair.

It has definitely improved since, you know, the 90s, absolutely. The insane people we have now are so much different than 90s, too. Like, the 90s, it's like you're going down the street and, like, there's a bomb. You could flip them a nickel. Do, like, a little dance for you. maybe clean your window. You go by now and there's a 50% chance he's going to stab you. But also that's because in the 90s,

the people who were going to stab you were in mental hospitals. They're in mental hospitals. And it's like, so this complete like breakdown where we feel so guilty about like incapacitating people, it's like, well, okay, it's either that or your cities look like they do now. There's no in between. You're not just going to like give a homeless person keys to an apartment

and they're just going to figure it out. What about this? I have an idea for the homeless people. Are you ready? This might be a little spicy. The spicy take. Are you ready? When we get rid of the illegals, right?

We're going to need people working on the, the farms. Put the homeless people on the farms. Here's the kicker. Don't pay them. Well, it wouldn't do it. You'd provide them like shelter. It's a spicy take. No, no, no, you give them food, you give them shelter,

you give them a purpose. Sleep. Sleeve. Sleep class. What are they? They're on the streets. That doesn't mean you enslave them, Sean? No, no, no. When you go and do a job that you're proud of, it's not, you're not being a slave. You pay them. I'm sure. That's a part to to Joe. But, but that parts

to the joke. But obviously, like, they need jobs. Get them on the... Why are they not on the farm? The problem is, I think they don't want them. They don't want the jobs. Like, you meet a homeless person and you offer them, like, food, like, a lot... They just want cash. They don't throw them... They've thrown food down that I've given them... Yeah. In my... I've given them food, like, a whole meal,

and people will just take it and throw on the ground. Also, people don't want to be saved. If you speak to a lot of people that, like, operate or work in homeless shelters, they'll say there's actually spare beds, but you have to get clean to sleep in this bed. And these guys, you can actually speak to a lot of them. They're still pretty lucid, and they're like, I'm not ready to get clean yet.

Yeah, they don't want to work. Like, I see so many homeless in Dallas that they're, like, asking for money, but you drive across businesses, and they're all hiring. They're looking for people to work, like, desperate for staff. And you'll see, like, grown adults that are on the corner asking for money, and it's like, one time I gave some guy, like, 10 bucks, and he asked for more, and I gave him five more. He's like, can I have 20 bucks?

I'm like, can you give me that 10 back? Yeah, I was in Dallas. I gave a homeless lady some cash, and then she's like, well, you got a 20 in there, give me that, too. And I'm like, what the hell? I gave her cash, and she pulled a square reader out now. I will say there are some Christian organizations out there that do a good job with this. They work with ex-felons and people that are homeless down on their luck.

They do give them jobs. And a lot of their success stories, it's like once they got that job and that purpose back, like it really motivated them. So it's like, I don't think all homeless people are like completely like gone. Like I do think some of them can be seen. But the average homeless person is on the street for like a day or two. It's the people you're seeing that are on the street consistently. Fair, fair, fair. That means that there's one of two options.

Like the whole Skid Row situation. They're either good at hiding, or there's a reason why there's only a few of them on the street at the same time. That means you've got a particular disposition to you. People on Skid want to live there. They love Skid. It's L.A. I literally worked there for like years. Like they love it.

It's the weather's beautiful. They get everything they want. Like you're mentioning too. Like I want them to like, you know, take up the mantle of responsibility. But they're not going to. Yeah. But there are some success stories. There are.

Yeah. Those Christian organizations you talked about. but there's so many, like you Tony mentioned, there's so many of these organizations that the chances of, like, someone being down their luck for, like, longer than, like, two weeks is, like, extremely, extremely slim. And then most of the time,

it's just because they want to go get fent for, like, a quarter on the lot. Oh, for sure. You know, the addicts and stuff, but even that you can overcome. Yeah, true. Put them on the farm. True.

I mean, the equalized situation is already so bad. Do we really want a bunch of junkies making the lettuce? I don't you. I'll clean them up, man. They're going to be in the soil. This lettuce is going to get really good. It's going to, like, yeah, exactly. More of that cabbage.

They get the vitamin D. It starts oozing out of them. Yeah, it's like something's using out of them. All right. Well, on that note, I think we should go to this next story here from the Daily Mail. Steve Bannon is secretly plotting a sensational run for president in 2028, and he's already knifing his likely rival, quote, I created him. The campaign would divide the Make America Great Again movement Bannon helped build by setting

up a Herculean battle with J.D. Vance, who was all but certain to launch his own 2028 candidacy, potentially with Donald Trump's blessing. Now, my opinion on this is Bannon likely to run. I don't know. This is the first I've heard of it. I will say, I don't think Trump's going to directly endorse a candidate because I do think Trump likes the idea of a few guys going in and battling it out by saying I'm the most pro-Trump. I'm the most like Trump. I think that's actually the likely outcome. I'm a hard no on Steve. Look at me. Look at the physiognomy. It's horrible, man. Like, I don't know. I just, I don't like him. What did it call Trump call him sloppy Steve Bannon. I'm sure he's a great guy all that way.

whatever, but the physiognomy is bad for me. And doesn't he have some weird Chinese connections? I don't know. I don't follow national stuff too much. But yeah, I don't, I'm not a fan. I don't think, I don't think Steve Bannon can win over the entirety of the American populace enough to, to win the nomination or the presidency. I like Steve Bannon a lot.

But I don't, I don't think that he can do that. And I'm not sure, you know, why he's doing this. I don't think he has any real intention of running. I don't think he has financial. financial support to run, I think it must be some kind of threat, you know, get your stuff together, or I'm going to run for president. Maybe he'll launch a clothing brand where it's like three collared shirts and he sells it because he's the only person I've seen do that. It's like he's reinventing. Triple collar shirt?

Yeah, he's like a high school thing back in the day. He always wore the three shirts. Yeah. The homeless look. It's like all carolidly. Is there a photo of Steve Bannon in his suit? No, it can't be. It probably doesn't exist.

I do like Vannan. I'm with you Libby. I do like him. Do I support him running for president? No. Like, again, his age, I think that'd be a problem. Also, like, he's really good

in the advisor role. So, like, if J.D. Vance does run, let's say it's Vance or Tulsi or whoever it is, right? He is really good in, like, the advisor role. He's been there. He's done that. He's a good strategist. Yeah, I think guys like Steve Bannon are optimal,

um, or they're optimal, like, bureaucrats. Like, you do need a good fleet of bureaucrats. I don't think he's really a bureaucrat or like a backroom, backstabber kind of guy. I think he's definitely a terrific advisor. He's absolutely brilliant. I mean, he's really smart.

He knows everything. Yeah, he's got a good face for radio. He looks good in a suit. Look at that. Behind the scenes. Not everyone needs to be out front and center. I mean, it has to be said that it's really hard to believe or make the case that MAGA would exist as it exists now without Steve. Oh, it absolutely would not.

It was 100% integral. So, like, whoever it is, if it's Vance or whoever, like, I really think he'd be great in the advisor role, you know. But not everyone needs to be out in front and center. Well, I mean, it's kind of tough. It's hard to tell. right now if Bannon is in that inner Trump circle. I mean, some things would suggest that, but a lot of times it seems like he's completely shut out.

I think that changes, like, regularly, too. Like, Trump kind of reminds me a little bit of, like, the popular kid in high school. It's like, yeah, you'd be friends with them a couple days, and then next week you don't talk to him, and then you hear from him again. You know what I mean? Like, it's hard to stay in, like, the Trump zone, you know, because he's got so much stuff going on.

But it is interesting that Trump, like, they asked him the other day, do you view J.D. Vance as your successor? and he's like, could be, could be awesome. But he also mentioned Rubio, and I think that's smart too. I think, yeah, I know you love Tulsi. I think she's terrific. I think J.D. Vance probably gets the nod to run. I think he has a lot of support in the background from the MAGA faithful.

I think he really has that. The one area that I think is a little weak for him is his very pro-tech stance, which I think unnerves a lot of people. Like when he was talking, we were just talking about farm workers, when he was talking about how to solve the farm worker crisis, he's saying, let's get in automation. You know, let's do that. I don't know if I like it or not, but I think that his answers are, in many cases, going to be to have a technical solution like that. I don't need it. It goes your homeless solving problem, though.

Okay, so like in the self-driving cars, so there are self-driving semi-trucks on the road. right now. But the funny thing is they need a human in front of the wheel with their hands like this ready to grab the wheel. Grace God, they have a human in front of it. There you go. You put that guy on the mower while it's driving around

doing all the agriculture. You want the Phenetron 3,000? Yeah, for the streets. I'm telling you, they get in the sun man. I think you're just saying stuff to be proactive. No, but I do think I actually as someone that is like a pretty big tech accelerationist, I like Vance a lot. I like that aspect of him, but that is very unpalatable to the populace MAGA base. And he's going to have to form a slightly different coalition in 2028 if he wants

to win the nomination, I think. I love Vance. I do, you know, the technology question that's a really interesting one, Libby, I do support it because I do know the population's getting smaller and smaller, and we still need a lot of food. So I'm not adverse to the machines doing mindless jobs like that, especially if it's going to get a bunch of people who who don't belong here out, you know what I mean? Sure, yeah, no, I mean, and it depends on what the tools are. My point is that that's just one instance where Vance is going to lean into tech to do the jobs. And I think that he probably, given his background, I mean, that's where he made his money, right, for the most part is in tech.

Oh, in that book. Yeah, the book. But, I mean, he was, you know, he was a teal acolytee. He's a teal guy. And so I do think that, well, I think J.D. Vance's hard is probably in the right place. I do think he has some leanings toward a little bit of a slightly transhumanist agenda that he might want to rethink.

You're seeing the robots already kind of take some jobs like in the restaurants. I don't know if you guys seen them like the, especially the Asian restaurants, the robot that brings by like the water or whatever. Yeah, I've seen that. You see that. But I was cracking up,

I was talking to somebody on the way here and I was like, man, I've lived long enough to have to find out what the derogatory term is for like a robot. Anchor. Clanker. Clankers. You got wireback, you got spark donkey, spruce cricket, clink.

I'm saying with an L that has an L, clink. There's a lot of great ones. There's a lot of good ones out there. I think we have two options. I like clanker, but I like it with a Boston accent. It's a clanker. We have two options. Either the machines do the mindless work or we start paying people more, Americans more,

which I'm fine with either. I'm fine with paying them more. But the problem is, we all know. know how businesses work. If you're paying your, you know, your floor level staff like 40, 50 bucks an hour, like we see at the fast food places in California, it's really hard to make money, or you have to raise the prices for the consumer. So either we're okay spending a ton more or we have the robots.

I think those are the two options, maybe homeless. Yeah, I mean, like the thing with... Tin can would be good, too. Yeah. The thing with Vance, if you really are hard on immigration, like if you really do want net zero immigration, you need to deport, maybe you. even denaturalize a lot of people is you're going to have to embrace tech because the reality is the share of the Native American population is shrinking as a whole. There's nothing you can

really do about that because everyone's chucking money at it. It's not really making a dent. You look at Hungary. You look at South Korea. Well, those countries are all paying people to have children. And it's not working. It's not even making a debt. Yeah. So it's like if you're looking at the states and you're looking at like, when I say Native Americans, not like American Indians, but like, you know, people that are from America, that share, that population is declining as a whole. The only way you're going to keep the economy propped up with a declining population, you're going to have to find technology. Something.

Something. So I think that's why the Vance guys, I think they just see the writing on the wall. Yeah, I'd much rather lean towards tech and towards, like, for instance, within farming, a lot of people that say, oh, well, you can't pick certain berries without having an actual person go and pick them. It's like, well, we haven't invented a machine to do that yet, right? Like before they were like, oh, it was really laborious to pick nuts from trees. And then someone was like, well, why don't I just take my tractor and turn around and put

big old thing on and shake it and vibrate and all the nets will fall down and like that revolutionized that industry and it got rid of a lot of people's jobs but it's not it's also not adding hundreds of thousands people to your country every year every other month like it's an insane idea to say that we need to do that as opposed to like

advancing technology and advancing the things we already are doing and it's like you know I'm not really a fan of the bots I don't like the bots either but like if they can do the job better and like more reliably than like I know the home they want the homeless people there too that'd be fine it's a good idea I'm telling you it's gonna grow on Yeah, the calculus is you bring in technology, you just let it, you cut it all loose, you have a 10% chance of like a cyberpunk future.

That's a possibility. Or the current course of action, which is flood the country with like people from the third world, you're going to get Brazil. So it's like I'll take the slight chance of Blade Runner over South Africa. If the choice is between a clanker or an illegal, I'll take the clanker. Or the third. No clanker ever asked me for money. I'll say that. The third option is still on the table.

Pay Americans more. and that actually came up in one of the culture where events yeah if the population declines there's going to be labor will have an advantage not necessarily because corporations they don't care about people they don't care about you they don't care about their employees they care about

their bottom line but if labor has an advantage in the negotiating table then labor will be well now you sound like a socialist economics if they play the game and they play with the rules they're actually supposed to play by like you can't hire illegal immigrants like that's a huge rule that gets completely flying on

completely bored. And I think we should be arresting these people. By the way, Donald, if you're watching, please arrest the people that hire illegal immigrants. They're causing like half of this problem. They're working on that. They're doing it. Yeah, they are. They are. And H1B is. That's the big issue. Like, and it's going to take time for everything to two levels. I'm serious. They're working on that. Listen, H1B is

corporate slavery. The workplace enforcement is including arresting the business owners for hiring the illegal immigrants. But do you guys think that we should have homeless people picking our crops or these frank? No, they're going to sit behind the machines while the machines do the work. You interrupted me, Sean. I'm telling you, listen, there's already self-driving

trucks on the road now, but they need someone there in case something happens to grab the wheel. So just like one homeless person per Frankentoaster? I'm telling you, they get, when they get purpose and they're like, oh my God, I'm doing something with my life, they're going to be like, I see the, I see the. I don't know, man. Sir, do you know if the, when we got in that Webo car and like somehow we put you in the wrong seat and it stopped and it was like, somebody phoned in to me and was like, I don't know what you're doing, but I'm going to kick you out of the car. You can't do that.

You can't touch the steering wheel. Yeah, we try to have you sit in the front seat. Oh, the Waymo. It's not. We were in, I think, we were in Arizona. Can't sit in the driver's seat car. Yeah, we were in Arizona. We called a Waymo and my buddy Tri-Man got in the driver's seat and the car just

started freaking out. Yeah, but it's like an extra seat. Some Indian dude hops up on the line in the car and is like, you can't do that. I got an email that they were going to ban me. Was he Indian or man? American Indian. The call center guy? Yeah.

Oh, he was Indian in the back of a... It's another thing. Imagine homeless. Gotta pay Americans more to do calls on them. Have a homeless guy call me to yell at me about the way. I got in the back of a Waymo. Maybe. I got in the back of a Waymo and he started telling me how his day was going and sort of

running. And then he started crying. Apparently his wife was leaving him. Could be levels like as they do better. They get better jobs. Did you see the Waymos that crashed? No. They crashed.

It was in Phoenix. And they crashed into each other. They got female Waymoes now? Oh my goodness gracious. They crashed into each other. and they just sat there blocking traffic. Oh, I think I did see that. And they didn't know enough to go to the side of the road

and exchange insurance. Tim brings us up all the time. You can, like, in traffic, you can trap a Waymo or a Tesla or anything that's auto driving by just cutting them on. People were not, I think it was awesome. They were putting traffic cones on there. Yeah. Controlling the Waymos pop up and talk to each other and, like,

yo, what happened there? You know what, though? I prefer the Waymos over Uber. I'll say it. Like, I don't have to worry about the cost knowing, weird music. I don't have to talk to them if I don't want to. I don't know at the tip.

I like talking to Uber drivers. Ugh. I just miss caps. I love it. Yeah. I prefer taxi cabs. It's like, I don't like talking about it. So many weird connections with people.

It's like, do you want to listen to like a political consultant or do you want to listen to like an Albanian taxi driver? I'll take the Albanian taxi driver. Or Persian. Or just any, any accent that's a little off. It's like they're going to lay the situation out flat. Okay. Okay. All right.

I'm sick and tired. Next time we're in a way, uh, Uber. I'll remember that. Yeah. Like, Tait wants to hear a life story. I do. I want to hear everything about your kids. Show him pictures.

It's my job to get along with people. It's a direct quote from Trump. Anyway, we got this next story. Disney, sorry, breaking from post-millennial. Disney, Lucasfilm, settle Gina Carrano lawsuit. Signal desire to work with the actress again. She won. She won.

This is the end of wokeness, you guys. Gina Carrano won. She's back. She now can get jobs. She can be un-blacklisted from Hollywood. Lucasfilm and Disney have both said that they would like to work for her, work with her again. she's a terrific actress. She deserves all the greatest opportunities in the world. And I couldn't be more excited for her to, you know, get a little piece of her career back. And I hope that she got a whole bunch of money from Lucas Films and Disney, too, because it's not right when someone takes away for your career just because you posted a meme during COVID. And the other thing, too, about her post. She posted a meme saying basically that the Nazis were able to control people because they got their neighbors to snitch on everybody. to snitch on each other and that's a big deal but Pedro Pascal got did not get fired when in 2018

he compared um the border situation in the US to the Holocaust and threw that at Trump he didn't get fired for that and you had Disney and Lucasfilm coming out being like oh this is absolutely abhorrent what she said is unbelievable we can't have someone like this working for us and they literally kept Pedro Pascal on so there was a guy that welcome back Gina Carano I hope you get the best of everything There's a guy that was literally masturbating after he got off that call with the media. What channel was it? What are you even talking about? I remember he was on the call.

I'm trying about. And he didn't get fired. He's about Jeff Tubman. Yeah, and he didn't get fired. Does he still have a job? Oh, yeah. He still has a job. He was gone.

I think he was gone for like two weeks. Yeah, it was like two weeks. He just apologized, whatever. I mean, it's horrifying. But what I will say is we are in the age of unapologetics, right? Well, yeah, we've got it's coming back. We've got hot blonde women. advertising jeans now.

American Eagle did not apologize. They were like, hey. Joe Biden was so bad at his job that he completely changed the entire political landscape of the country to go back like 20 years, which is crazy. Like, he was that bad. Joe Biden. Thank you, Joe Biden. It's almost like the country as a whole is going back

to his ex. Joe Biden, the Patriot. Going back to their, to his ex. The whole, the United States as a whole are going back to our ex. We're going back to the line. There was a study that came out also. Do you remember before COVID and then during BLM and all of that,

you had the New York Times and all these other outlets talking so much about race that people's fear of racism and belief that racism was a huge problem in the country skyrocketed. And a new study came out and that number is back down to sort of normal. You know? People crave authenticity. They crave people that are unapologetic. They want people that are outspoken. They're done with it.

They want comedy back. You know, I haven't seen Naked Gun yet, but that was a spicy movie. they came back. I mean, you remember from our childhood. I'm hoping they did a good job with it, but I'm just saying they're trying. It's coming back. Do you think the Democrat Party as a whole adjusts their messaging because this isn't working anymore? No, they're doing podcasts. They are at all. In fact, they're doing the opposite. And this is a huge problem for the Democratic Party, right? They could go in two directions right now. They have two options. One, go a little more establishment, veer center, capture that part of their base and that part of their voters. Or,

they could veer far left and go the Zoram Mandani, Omar Fatah, like all of these guys in this direction. And that's what they're choosing to do. You had Elizabeth Warren the other day saying that Zoran Mamdani's message is the message for the future of the Democratic Party. She was very clear on that. AOC is endorsing. You have Bernie Sanders on that side. And the people in the Democratic Party who are not endorsing Mom Dani, you have Chuck Schumer, you have Hakeemacher's. they're not endorsing.

Corey Booker, not endorsing. But they're being super quiet about it. They don't really want you to notice that they have not endorsed the socialist candidate for mayor for New York City. So they're hedging, they're, you know,

skirting those questions. You had Kamala Harris recently come out what was it last week on Stephen Colbert. And when she was asked who the leader of the Democratic Party was, she did not say herself and she did not name anyone. Instead, what she said was that she'd like

to take her book and tour around the country, country not asking for people's votes. She's trying to come out as an outsider to the political party that she should be the head of right now, but she can't say that she's the head of it. Nobody is the head of the Democratic Party right now. And so what you have is the far left taking control. They're taking charge of this party. They're veering it further toward literal crazy, you know, everyone's going to starve communism. That's what they're advocating for. And so is the Democratic Party going to, you know, switch up their message because they're losing?

No, they're doubling down on the lunacy. They're doubling down on the socialism, the free buses, all of the rest of it. I disagree. I do think you're right. But look at what's, look at the landscape. No, I do think you're right. I do think there's a percentage of the left of the Democrats that is definitely embracing socialism and communism. But if you look at the moderates, Michelle Obama has a podcast.

Gavin Newsom has a podcast. You know, if you're looking at all the- Gavin Newsom is not a moderate. Neither is Michelle Obama. They're both pretty far left. Mamdani's going on with Hassan. They are looking at what we're doing and the things that we've done, podcasting. They're talking about Epstein.

They're trying to mirror the cultural impact. But the messaging is still further left. I understand. But all I'm saying is they are starting to learn from their mistakes with the, like, how they lost. Only in terms of presentation. Exactly. Only in terms of presentation. I do think they give a wink in the nod to the communist.

This is not Marshall McLuhan here. Like the medium is not the message with these guys. But to say that they haven't changed anything, I think is wrong. I think they actually are learning and they're seeing what works on our side. But they're not changing. You had Nancy Pelosi. Yeah, you had Nancy Pelosi out here today talking about how she wants to implement plans so that child sex changes are national. It's not punk rock for them.

It's modus operandi. It's status quo. Hispanics are running away from them. Sorry, I'm the host here, guys. Geez, I'm just kidding. We've got to watch the video that Libby was talking about. This is a good video. This is Nancy Pelosi.

Look, she's young, and I think she's got many years of service. How is your office responding to the causes in gender affirming care here in California? Well, that is something I'm working for at the national level, and we have, I'm going to say, are hoping that we can have gender affirming care. for our trans kids and that it's a sad thing for us I'm not totally I don't know what I don't know what effect we can have nationally with what we have going on in the White House and in the Congress it's really very sad if you were there outside our door we have a trans flag outside of our door in the cap and the office book congressional office

building we have the trans flag as do some of our other colleagues so as you can see she's very well spoken which is a beautiful thing to see um this is kind of especially in our elder generation and this is kind of exhibit a for what liby is saying is they're just trying to like repackage really really horrible ideas and they're trying to and she can't do it as well but like she was saying they're just trying to repackage it in the brocast kind of presentation but if you just listen to her i mean this is the moderate position in the democrat party today and the Democrats, the situation they're in is the same situation the Republicans were in in 2015, which was the base had no appetite to moderate at all, and they felt like every attempt to

satiate them in any way wasn't enough. I think in 2028, the Democrats are going to send a brick through a window. What do you mean? I think the candidate that they're going to not, they're not going to tolerate a Josh Shapiro or, or, you know, Gretchen Whitmer. They're not going to just let someone, like, they're not going to have that shove down their throat. They're going to be angry. they're going to elect an equivalent to some degree of a Donald Trump as far as expressing anger, expressing discontent with the current of the Democrat Party. They have absolutely no frontrunner. And what's interesting about that is if you look at the past several presidential elections by this far out from an election, there was an opposition frontrunner.

But at this stage, you had Al Gore, you know. What about 2016? The equivalent would be, what, 2014? And Trump wasn't on the radar at that point yet. No, no, no. I mean, well, Trump was on the radar. radar by 2015 for sure. But we're two years out. But there were also already frontrunners, right? You had Marco Rubio, you had Ted Cruz, you had Jeb Bush. Bobby Jindal was like a frontrunner.

Sure, but like you had these people. And if you look for the Democrats, like this is a lot of runway that they have to not have anybody that they're launching. You know what I mean? I mean, yeah. I think that you're looking at perhaps Jasmine Crockett, you know? You're looking at perhaps AOC.O.C. You're looking at the legit low IQ people from the Democrat Party because they're the only ones who are stupid enough to think that they have a shot. The difference between like a person like Jasmine Crocketer AOC versus not saying because obviously not the same at all. And Trump, as Trump had the money to like create an insurgency where in the Democrat Party, they're not going to have a war chest at their disposal. They have a ton of money. Yeah, they might have money.

They don't have anyone that actually believes in the success of their dreams so much that they're willing to go out and. I don't think they're going to have a war chest like Trump had. I think that you're mistaken about just how much money the Democrats have and in terms of Democrats' donors and open societies. Well, USAID was shut down. So that actually. USAID was shut down. But like they're going to come up with it. I mean, these people are still throwing multi-thousand-dollar plate fundraisers and stuff like that.

They're still doing all of these things. None of that has shut down. And you had AOC after the 2024 election going out into her constituents and her district being like, I'm so confused. Fused, you voted for me and Trump. Right. AOC is very Trumpy, just in terms of her populism. I agree with you, Libby. I do agree that they need to fix their messaging, you know, trans shit.

That's so old hat now. Like, there is stuff. They're going to have to update it. But MAGA has really put together the model for what works and what talks to people. And that's literally being authentic, literally being outspoken, getting on podcasts, getting on social media, saying crazy stuff. Crockett, whether you like or not, she's, like, fearless when it comes to, like, you know, saying what she thinks, you know, going out there acting crazy. Did you see the report today from the New York Post? Yeah, like, her seat might be.

No, they were, apparently her staffers say that she doesn't do any work. Oh, of course not. She just hangs out in her apartment and she's like influencer level and not actually doing anything for the... AOC-2. She's an influencer. That's all... They're just influencers. I mean, let's be real. Like, politics is a popularity.

contest, right? I think AOC actually does have, like, committee assignments. Not that that means you're working, but at least, like, she was showing up places. Yeah, she was on Twitch for a while playing, what's that, Harvest game? Harvest Moon. Harvest Moon, yeah. It's like, our tax dollars... She played games with Tim Walts on Twitch.

I know. Our tax dollars is hard at work. It's like, I'm, like, mad about it. I agree with you. Like, they're replicating the Trump or the MAGA, like, recipe of doing things, but the messaging hasn't changed. And I don't think... It's like hollow. Messaging has changed in the sense of Epstein, though.

Epstein was a big win for them. No, it was not. They know it wasn't. Because even the MAGABAS is upset about it. Well, the thing, too, is the Democrats had four years to release anything on Epstein that they wanted. And if there was anything in there that actually harmed Trump, they would have released it. And that's why it sounds so hollow. And that's why you even had Joe Scarborough, I think, talking to Jamie Raskin about it on his show and being like, okay, congressman, like, if you're so gung-ho about this,

Epstein stuff, why didn't you do anything about it for the past four years? I understand what you're saying. And Raskin couldn't say a word. I understand what you're saying with the insiders. What I'm talking about is their base. And now, I mean, literally having Epstein on local news on, you know, like in the mainstream, uh, uh, psyche is insane. Like it's everything we've asked for for the last, what, eight years or whatever. Like, it's finally mainstream. So they've kind of unlocked that. All they're doing is taking the MAGA playbook and using it. You know, I agree the messaging needs to change and stuff, but they are playing copycotts.

They don't think it needs to change because they don't think it needs to change. You won't get the same results. I think it's just a losing message. I understand. Right. With losing people. Yeah, I think that that's what's going on. I don't think they have a great chance for the midterms either because so far I don't

know what they could possibly be driving home. Jeffries is mad. He just stands there on the floor yelling about everything. You know, you have Chuck Schumer doesn't know what's going on. All of the, all of the leading Democrat governors look like idiots out here being like, oh, we're going to redistrict our state. Well, you don't have anything to redistrict there. I mean, I understand what you're saying, but I also hear them saying, we need the new Joe Rogan. We need the new left's Joe Rogan. And they think it's like Friedland, you know, or maybe even the Oval. There's no unifying message. There's no, Trump is, like, Trump's thing was like, you know, build a wall, make America great again. You know, we need to, you know, they're just not sending their best. Like, that was their thing. That was the thing, right? And that was like a unifying message. And like, the Democrat party is what? More illegal immigration. like trans stuff, right?

And what else? Epstein right now. I mean, it's hollow. Yeah, it's weird because like we actually like, I mean, at least the MAGA party had like goals that if accomplished would improve their lives. Whereas if the accomplished goals happen on the left, like what does that actually mean? Well, we don't, I mean, that's, I mean, that's, the problem is like you see the Zoron primary victory and everyone's like, this is great, we should export this to the country.

Right. And it's like, this isn't even. really so i mean it's socialism obviously but if you read the policy it's just totally incoherent it's like what are you exporting besides like general anti-white hatred what they're trashy tictox is that yes that's what their export their export is understanding social media how to use social media something trump is very good at something vance is a master at zoron works great in new york but it's not going to play and it's like yeah once you get the votes then what i understand but like but he was able to get people pumped and excited through a

new medium which the Democrats have been failing at for years or which MAGA has like taken over with podcasts and social media this is just a five year growing pain like Obama was the first person to Twitter and then the Republicans figured it out five years later so that's not a game change we're talking about actual policy platform which does have

decades long implications the policy platform of MAGA will last 20, 30 years the Democrats have to pick their next policy platform very carefully. It'll only last if the Congress actually takes up some of the platforms because a lot of what Trump is doing now, right, he did by executive order in his first term. The anti-wokeness,

there was a whole big thing with Chris Rufo in like, what was it, September 2020. It was massive. It was going to be like this whole 1776 project. It was very cool. He had all of these executive orders going on. And as soon as Biden, with the border wall, all the rest of it, he did not go through Congress to get those laws passed. He did not fight for that in the legislature. And so what you had as soon as Biden took office like literally you can look up the executive orders January 21st 2021 he was in there signing executive orders to reverse everything Trump did he signed like hundreds of orders to reverse what Trump did and then Trump gets into office he has signed hundreds of executive orders to reverse what Biden did well we think Biden Biden Biden well whatever it is

Biden reversed uh he he went into title nine and he's said, okay, for Title IX, which was what was it, 64, 72, something like that, he came in and he said, okay, Title IX now sex means and gender identity. He did that by executive order, and that pushed out through all the federal agencies. Every federal agency had like 180 days to come back and be like, this is how we're going to fix that. The Department of Ag said we're going to withhold free school lunches if schools don't let boys use girls' bathrooms. You had all of this crazy stuff going on, and that was pushed by executive order so that Trump could just reverse it. If a Republican doesn't win the House again, right, or doesn't win the White House,

then all of these executive orders could just be reversed again, and the directives go back again. Now, you have to remember, affirmative action was an executive order. That was an executive order, and that stayed with us this whole time. Why did no Republican ever reverse it? You You know what I'm saying? Like any of this stuff can just be reversed. And I find it infuriating that we have a Republican Congress and a Republican-led Senate. And they won't take up some of these things to say, we are reaffirming that Title IX means, you know, legal protections for actual women or whatever the other things are. Some of the border security measures, a lot of that stuff.

Has the House passed anything other than the Lake and Riley Act and the Big Beautiful bill this year? and there's tons of policy proposals from Trump's executive orders, the anti-wokeness, some of the anti-wokeness in AI, which I think is a really big deal. And the Congress hasn't taken up any of it. And instead you have the Senate being like, no, we're not going to stick around and try and confirm some of your appointees. And the House is like, no, we're going to go. You have a bunch of people being like, yeah, we're going to take this free trip to Israel.

Like, what are you doing? You know, what are you doing? Like, put your stuff together. I will say there's back these policies. There's been a little black pilling on Trump on the show for a little bit. And I understand the frustration, you know, especially like with the way the Epstein thing was handled and with some of the other stuff. But like just imagine the other option we had. If Kamala's president right now, I mean, that's, yeah, I mean, I'm just saying like, you know, what he's done, especially rolling back DEI, a lot of the changes he's made.

Like there have been like the, you know, the ice stuff, like going after your league. It's like he has done a lot in a little. I'm not complaining about Trump. I'm complaining about Congress. I was going to say the thing is when people say, well, look at what we could have had. That's not a pro-Trump position. That's a absolving Congress. No, no, but I'm saying I'm both pro and, thank God, we don't have the other side.

But I'm also a fan of what he's doing with immigration, what he's done with DEI, what he's done with a lot of the stuff. You know, like the JFK stuff, obviously, that was interesting. But I think the only thing that he's really kind of screwed up was Epstein. And I don't think that was necessarily him. I think that was his team. Well, speaking of immigration, we got one more story here from the post-millennial. Superman actor Dean Kane to join ICE will be sworn in, quote, ASAP. Dean Kane, an actor who played Superman in the 1990s TV show, Lois and Clark.

Lewis and Clark? My 90s. I'm on 90s, so sorry. Lewis and Clark, that was totally a difference. We can't get them all right. The new Adventures of Superman told Fox News is Jesse Waters' primetime on Wednesday that he is joining ICE. Kane explained that he had put out a recruitment video on Tuesday in which he had laid out the benefits interested parties would get of joining ICE, of which Waters had shown a clip on his show.

Let's take a look at the clip. What are you going to be doing at ICE? Well, let me go back a minute here, Jesse. This is all your fault, by the way. I'll explain why. Because I put out a recruitment video yesterday. I'm actually a deputy sheriff, a sworn deputy sheriff, and a reserve police officer. I wasn't part of ICE.

But once I put that out there and you put a little blurb on your show, So it went crazy. So now I've spoken with some officials over at ICE, and I will be sworn in as an ICE agent, ASAP. So they'll have 80,000 and one recruits for their 10,000 positions. Well, they can't have a better guy than Dean Kane. Are you going to be hopping out of ICE fans and apprehending guys? I will do whatever Director Lyons wants me to do.

If that's what it takes, absolutely. I somehow doubt I'll be in that position, but I would be there in a heartbeat. These brave men and women need someone to stand up for them. So rarely these days are we seeing that. Someone like Daniel Penny stands up, he gets vilified. Dan Bongino steps up, gives up $5 million a year, and goes and takes his position at the FBI. This is the kind of thing where people have to step up. I'm stepping up.

Hopefully a whole bunch of other former officers, former ICE agents, will step up and we'll meet those recruitment goals immediately. That Chiron was incredible. Illegals have their kryptonite. Yeah. That's a beautiful thing. I love it.

Patriot Cain. I think you should do it in the Superman costume for like some media on. I think that would be fantastic. Like literally Superman kicking out the illegals. This isn't novel though.

Steven Seagall did this. Remember he became a cop. He went, you know, he became a cop. It looks more like a publicity thing. But he won't even flat-out say whether he's actually going to be on the field.

It's probably a desk job or a media job No, oh no, Steven Seagull was out there, like arresting people. So, yeah, I think she will do it. Exactly. It's just a copy that it's worth noting that, like, ICE is so much different than anything we've seen so far. ICE in the Trump administration, because this really does feel like, to some degree, like, the reconquista. This is like an ability, this is the ability to participate in the reconquista, put your name in the history books.

I was talking to Owen Schroier about this earlier, and he's in total agreement, so I don't know if you guys agree. But if you're, like, a young man and you really feel like your inheritance has been stolen when you look around your country, You see ICE as, like, the ticket to, like, actually restore that inheritance. Plus, like, $50,000. That doesn't hurt. That doesn't hurt. The glory alone is great. And then you can pay off your college.

You guys covered this last night, though. Like, they still, like, the barrier to entry is still ridiculous, right? It's like, you have to be a government employee. You have to have a four-year. I mean, why would we do that? Four-year gets you around it, and it's, like, half of Zoomers are going to college. But, again, like, why put yourself in debt for something? Like, if you know this is the job you want to do.

anyway. Who goes to college? Zoomers. Oh, that's a bad choice. More than half earn. I mean, that's your prerogative. I think you're going to get better candidates. I like Tim's point on this. Let them in and train them. I agree. Literally anybody can do any job. That was the whole thing with Leonardo.

I don't think that's true. I don't think anybody can do any job. He literally taught himself to table. Okay, but that's a different thing. Right, but he learned. And they are working. There's a ton of jobs I can't do. Like, I can never be an elephant trainer. If you had on-the-job training and somebody that was good at their job, you 100% could be an elephant trainer. I don't think so.

I do. I could never be a weightlifter. Well, what do you mean? You'd pick up a weight. You're a weightlifter. No, that's not a profession. What is like? And like a profession, that's different.

But if you have like someone that's what we're talking about, we're talking about jobs. Yeah, I know. But if you have someone that's good at their job at training, you can learn not doing anything. Never going to be a rodeo clown. So this is blank slate theory, disavowed, disavowed. He could never put his lip-tart theory. Lengths, late theory? Yeah, you're saying anyone can be a weightlifter.

It's like, no, you need to be Austrian. That's how it works. Anybody could be a man if they just wish it hard enough. No, no, I'm not talking about biology. What I'm talking about is like literally on-the-job training. Tate, you weren't in the seat. A couple months later, guess what, you're in the seat. You learn how to do the job.

Yeah, could we say. I didn't transition for the job. I can't be a weightlifter. I'm just saying, like, we need to have more faith in the workforce and not look at people that don't have a college degree as lessers? You're all wrong, Sean, you're all wrong. I just got a text from my friend Devin. He's a bodybuilder, and you said,

Blue Hoodie has no idea what weightlifting is like. That kind of says it all right there. Some people just don't have the genetics for it. I think we should just all call Sean Blue Hoodie from now. Listen, I'm right. I've been on many worksites where you can literally teach someone. I don't like looking at people as lesser, especially people that are on the floor. I view people's lesser all the time.

That's being American. I think that's the problem, though, is that we don't, we don't accept. the fact that some people can't do certain things. Whether it's a gender issue or a ethnicity a race issue or just an intellect issue. There's going to be jobs that we can't do. So I'm going to ask you this question.

So you think that your race prevents you from learning a job? There are some things that certain, I mean, this is just factual. There are some races that excel at certain things over others. And I don't think that's, I think it's actually better to accept that. Do you have any examples? I'm not going to do an example. I mean, let's get into it. I couldn't

probably be a bodybuilder. Right? Like, Because you're Mexican. I think I don't have the genetics for it. Like I look at my father and my family. But I'm not saying, but your race, does your race actually prevent you from doing? I think in some situations that there are specific things that you cannot. Examples, boys. Okay, track and field.

Yeah, look at like football teams. This is majority blacks because they excel. Look at how they build muscle faster. Well, I asked which muscle fibers. Yeah, absolutely. You look at like some Asian cultures excel. But you don't think that comes from the call. that's pushing the kids to be in sports from, like, the age of five?

I don't think that that's actually true. I think science will actually show that black people have a tendency to build muscle faster and have... Well, they develop earlier. So what you guys are saying is black people are better at sports than white people. Yes, obviously. That's like everyone in America. All right, I just want to get that out there. With team sports, yeah.

I don't think that's true. I don't think it's true either. I think you can train. The NBA and NFL. I mean, the NFL is all we got. That's just recently. That's just recently. I mean, the NBA, like, the NBA originally, like, it was mostly Jewish players, you know, and then it changed.

Yeah, but there's also like, LeBronica. When you try to get, like, to a higher elite level, like, yes, if you're taking from a certain base. That's just where we are right now culturally. I think that that could change. In the black community, they really push their kids to focus on sports at an earlier age than in other groups. Yeah, but I mean, I lived in America and have had white parents who have pushed their. sons and daughters to be like soccer players and that's all they do their whole life and ski

racing as well like ice ski race as a kid people put their entire life behind that and like you know your kid is never winning a FIS race it's never going to have understood I'm not saying I'm not saying anyone can do anything what I'm saying is your race doesn't necessarily prevent you from doing something like you can be born in any race doesn't prevent

you from doing things you can be born like Yao Ming was 8 foot he was in the NBA forever they loved them and what about like there was like a plethora of Eastern European basketball players for a while that were like and the europeans are crushing in the NBA and they're white tape yeah i know i'm just saying like i i just think it's a non-starter if we're going to say that white americans are just as likely i think it's a bad argument i think it's i think that's totally cultural yeah i agree i grew up in memphis i really wanted to go to the NBA you realize

pretty quickly it's not going to happen but you but i'm saying there is a white person like you like taller than you and better than you that could, is what I'm saying. I think if we're talking in generalities. Generalalities. Exceptions don't just pervue the norm. Exactly. Right.

But also there's something to hard work and grit. What about hockey? Right? I mean, look at hockey. Like, that's a very... But we also look at generalities in like, like, gender, like men perform better in certain things. Sure. And vice versa.

Yeah, but that's... Academic Olympiads, you see a... That's definitely. And I think if you can accept the fact, if you accept the fact that genders have superiority in certain things, certain things and I think it makes sense that races would fall into that as well. I think gender and race are totally

gender and race are different. Also to like there is something in this country A, make colorblindness great again B, we were always taught like when we're your kids, guess what with enough hard work, you can get there. Totally. Like that's the message. I'm sick of this. I know, but the message should

still be to the kids instead of telling kids, hey, you're victims, you're this, you're never going to make it. With enough hard work, you too can read the Odyssey. you know like you can do it like you can do it put your mind okay but you literally you mentioned you said you said someone taller than you can make the NBA so you're already conceding that your genetics absolutely so like you're going to do with your life okay fair so instead of maybe being a player they can go into ads for the NBA they can go into some I'm just saying dude like sometimes your dream is your dream it's like hey I want to be in the NBA no matter

what it's like but they're not being prevented from it like you can just because you are able to do something doesn't mean you're going to be like also part of the telling them their race it doesn't allow them to do it's a bad message I don't think anywhere in the United States anywhere in telling you can't do something we just said it on this if my kid that's not what there's the point

the point is saying like it's bigger than just like any any person's skin color like skin color means almost nothing I agree with my friend from from North London that is lived in London's whole life and he's a black guy and he doesn't have anything to do with with like but he's English in all sense of the word

I understand that I'm not like not like not being an idiot here but I'm saying like just the idea that someone has like their skin color is like the only thing that determines like We have a major issue in this country with cultural assimilation. Yes. Cultural assimilation is the major issue with all of this immigration.

It has nothing to do with the skin color. I don't care what your skin color is. It matters if you can assimilate into the culture and become an American. That's the issue. I don't want to be like, oh, we can let anyone. It's like, yeah, sure, anyone can do it, but can they reach those. We're based on meritocracy. Can you reach the actual level?

Just because you can do the job, doesn't mean you're the optimal person for the job. Doesn't mean you're the best person to be doing it. But hard work. Yeah, hard work, sure. Get you there, it's the point I make sure. That needs to come back. in our culture, like we lost that. The kids these days are being taught your sex,

your race, whatever. It's holding you back. There's nothing you can do. Our society stacked against you. Instead of getting back to the 90s and the 80s kids were told, it's like, hey, you want to do that? Do it. Yeah, and look, we're telling people you can be anything you want, goddess. Shoot for the moon. If you shoot for the moon, the worst you can do

is land on the stars. I'm not making any argument for, like, genetic determinism. I'm just saying, like, people need to be kind of realistic and stop telling like five foot women they can be cops. That's where I fall. It's like, you just have to be able to accept the fact that, you know, if you're five foot five, you're probably not going to be an NBA three. Even with the police and I walked into so many open calls in New York and they were like, get out of here.

Even with the police, though, there's clerical needs, there's a whole bunch of office needs, there's a whole bunch of stuff. I started talking about ICE officers and then you're making an argument. It's like, no. The ICE has clerical needs. They have logistical needs. They need people mapping out where the trucks are going. Like, there's definitely someone that's going to be better at doing that and someone's going

worse doing that. And I think like right now we have a situation where it's like, oh, just because you can do the basic job. Like, like, I see videos of people at Walmart that are like not doing the job at all. And like, oh, well, I work four hours and I get this money. It's like, I'm just quiet quitting. I'm just trying to like whatever get by. It's like, I don't want you working there, bro. Like stuff needs to go on the shelves. Like stuff needs to happen. We need to like have a functioning country just because some people can do the job theoretically. Doesn't mean they actually will. Doesn't mean they have like a real drive to actually do the job well. But you're missing the point of the message. The message is if you truly want to do it, hard work will get

you there. I understand what you're saying, Serge, like, if they don't want to do it, you're right. You're not going to force a circle and a square peg, right? But if somebody's truly motivated and they're like, this is my dream, this is the thing I want to do, we should be encouraging. But that messaging has gone too far because you're seeing so many like institutions, whether it's schools or even military or police, they're lowering the standards because they want to accommodate that ideology. They want to say, well, you're telling, you're telling somebody you can do whatever they want and they physically or literally can't. So we're just going to lower the standards so that they could hit that

completely opposed to that. That's the big problem. That was never part of the messaging in the 90s. It wasn't like work hard and you can achieve because we're going to lower the standards. It's work hard so you know what it takes. It's the work hard so we can replace you with a ton of random people that we're going to bring to the country at the end of the end of your college years and say oh sorry our bad

like anyone to do the job and everyone came. We have a generation of children whose parents told them they can do anything they want they can be anything they want and that just raises a bunch of really really entitled people. I disagree. I think it I think it I think it brings up people that, like, actually think outside the box. It can think past, like, what these, what society is putting on them as far as you can only do this.

Like, if it's America, dude, that's the whole reason why we are America. People come here because they know if you work hard enough here, you can do whatever you want. Stop coming. Yeah, please. You can't. Your dreams will not happen here. We're full. Yes, exactly.

We're full now. I'm saying that was always the idea. Unless you want to join ICE, then we can maybe make an exception. I think, like, telling kids that the white kids are oppressing the black kids and the black kids are victims and they're never going to make it. That's a horrible. That's not what I was arguing. Yeah. Well, that is what's being taught today.

I thought we started with anyone could come and do anyone else's job if taught by somebody who does that job. I don't agree with that. Really? No. So, okay, give me a couple examples of jobs you think that can't be taught outside of weightlifting, which. I mean, I could teach you how to be an audio engineer over the course of, like, 10 or 15 years if you're really good at music.

So you don't think anyone can learn how to be audio engineers as long as it's... I think it's pretty difficult to teach writing. I mean, if you're, you know, you can teach somebody who can write to be better. We can't teach writing either. You can teach somebody who can write to be a better writer, but I don't think you can teach someone

who has no skill to be good. Listen, there's always a percentage for the X factor in anything. And I think if people have that X factor, and a lot of times it's interest and passion, like autism to the point where they want to just do it, do it, you know what I mean? Those are the people you can train. Sure.

I'm not talking about you can train some Joe Schmoe off the street that's like not interested at all. I'm talking about the people that actually have a passion. Yeah, I don't know. Like, yeah, you can get them there, right? I think both are possible. I mean, you look at the classic disposition, which is Leonel Messey and Cristiano Rinald, he's like five, six, nothing about, he has a growth hormone deficiency. Nothing about him would indicate this is going to be a top level athlete.

And he's the greatest soccer league of all time. On the other hand, if Christiana Ronaldo, 6-3, physical specimen, he trains. He has the most diligent diet, probably on planet Earth. And he's also achieved that very high level. So it's like, there is two pathways. You could work your way there. Or with Lain O'Messi, he does work very hard, obviously. But there's just a certain level of talent.

And so it's like, it's the same thing with writing or the same thing as sound engineers. You can teach someone to get to a really good point. But to be that Leonel Messi, you just have to have that intangible talent that is born. You know, and I don't know if you're too young, but like Mugsy Boggs was in the NBA. Does anyone remember Mugsy Boggs? like 5-1, 5-2. I mean, what if people told him, oh, you're not tall enough, whatever, blah, blah, blah. That dude was like an all-star.

I mean, there are exceptions. So, like, all I'm saying is it shouldn't be taken off the table. We shouldn't be teaching kids that they're worthless and that they're victims. We should be teaching them that you can do anything. Totally. Put your mind to it. Figure it out, especially if you have the passion. All right.

If you're America. I agree. All right. We need to get to super chats, I think, right? Sirge is kind of like coaching me through this whole situation. I know it makes it, I look like I got it all locked down, I'm putting it all together. It's actually surge throwing up hand signals. I think you threw up a gang sign earlier, so we need to be a little careful.

But do you just read every super chat? I'll show you. Okay, all right. Just point. Cover over what I read. While you're transitioning, it's American, not Ameri can't. Hey. Hey, whoa.

All right, join ICE. All right. And lower the standards for ICE, I think, a lot. I think you get a lot more people. Four-year thing, I think, is a, I don't know. Four government. Like, you have to have government experience. It's like, no, we.

don't want people in government. They're worthless. All right, well, it's time to read. I've got to lock in here. James Adrensen says, good luck, Tate. Hopefully this won't be remembered as a taint cast. Ooh. You can do anything you want on your last date. I think the jury is out so far. I don't know. We'll see what the people say afterwards. What's it? Raybert G. Stanbert Jr. Cool that Tim got a long-lost Tate brother as a backup host.

Yeah, people don't realize having Tate as your name when you're scrolling through your your Twitter feed, and you see people like, Tate is a domestic abuser, Tate kids trafficking women. And I'm just like the psychological impact that has reading your name, doing that over and every. I'm like, I didn't do that. I'm a good guy, I think.

I don't know. But yeah, I appreciate it. Wait until a list comes out. We'll see you. Yeah, that's true. Let's see. Big 7588 says, the last time a citizenship question was included

on the main U.S. census questionnaire sent to every household was in 19- 1950. Bless you. 1950. 1950. That's according to big 790. The point I'm making with that is not that it's on the census.

The point I'm making with is these people don't, these people trust police officers less than black people. You know what I mean? Like they don't want to talk to anybody. Well, they tried to get the citizenship question on the census in 2019 ahead of the 2020, and it was not approved to go forward. Yeah. Brett Dasevic. Yes. Remember boys. Calories in, calories out.

I had to. I had to. I'm sorry. That's based. It's based. It's true. Yeah, if you didn't see last night. Oh, we got an extended version today from Tim on the calories and calories. Yeah, if you didn't see last night the war, the psychological war, I would say, between Phil and Tim over calorie counting was, I mean, it made Israel and Palestine like a slight disagreement. Wait, who had which take? Phil was saying calorie deficit is all that matters to cut weight. and Tim was saying, you know, you need certain nutritional.

Protein, exercise. And he, yeah, he references Neil of Grass-Tyson because Neil Grastheson's a fat-ass. And he makes the calorie in-calorie out. I've only ever had success losing weight one time in my life. And it wasn't exercise and it wasn't calorie deficits. You exercise every day. So what do you do now? Oh, anxiety and depression.

Super effective. I lost 30 pounds in like two months. Oh, yeah. Just don't eat. It's amazing. Yeah, just, you know. I wasn't even not eating. I'm not eating.

Oh. It was just, it was just, it was just, anxiety and expression. Yeah. Heron Gaming News says, I support the removal of junk food from food stamps, but pre-cooked deli items should be covered.

Some people don't know how to cook. I agree with that. That's a good take. Aren't they, well, in Texas, we recently just passed the removal of soda and candy for SNAP beneficiaries. And so that was a really big deal for us. And, you know, it's crazy.

And a lot of people aren't talking about it is, the soda industry, the packs, were paying influencers to fight against that. That's pretty dirty, yeah. It's very dirty. And there's a lot of very, yeah, a lot of MAGA influencers were being paid without disclosing to not promote not removing soda and candy. I think that was a big turning point, actually,

because like the whole influencer getting paid to do stuff market, Like with advertising, you know, it's always very clear, like, this is an advertisement. When we run ads on the post-millennial website, and I know you do this too, right? Like, you have to say, like, this is an advertisement. And there haven't been standards for influencers. It's such a new area. X has guidelines that FEC has some gray guidelines about it, but they're not doing it. And this is specifically a huge problem.

Do you think people are doing it now after that whole soda kerfuffle? No, absolutely not. They're doing it today. There's plenty of, and I hate to say it, but there's a lot of MAGA influencers that are taking cash from PACs, from other organizations, from directly from politicians in order to push policy. There's this big MAGA influencer, I'm not going to drop his name, but he was taking money from the green energy lobby being paid $12 per petition to push solar energy in Texas. And it was so disingenuous. They were using the background, they were using oil wells in the the background of this petition, but you were signing something that was promoting wind and solar energy in Texas, and he got called out on it, immediately deleted it. But there are companies that you can sign up if you're these Niagara Influencer that will pay you to push like petitions or policy and they're not disclosing. In fact, I posted this and I got approached by one and they specifically ask you not to put it that it's an ad or that you're being paid for by it. I don't have a problem with it so long.

It's fully disclosed. I totally agree with you. People should be able to be compensated for their following, absolutely. But you should disclose. It should just be disclosed, just like with anything else. I disagree with the super chatter, though.

I do think deli meat should not be a part of it. Deli meat. It's horrible for you. It's full of sodium. It's whole... Make a little sandwich? No, it's completely unhealthy. And the argument of, oh, people don't know how to cook,

come on. YouTube teaches you everything right now. I think pre-prepared deli foods should be fine. I think you should be able to get the stofer's horribly unhealthy well i think you should be able to get some of this stuff like i think it's okay i'm not a fan of putting chips and candy bars and sodas on yeah um but i think that there's a lot of room for lifestyle choices that are healthy within the rest of the framework this is not typically stuff that i buy i mean i'll buy deli meat and like make a sandwich or whatever you know um i'm just

saying if if the goal of maha is to make the food more healthy that you're getting from government Classic American sandwich Like classic lunch is a ham sandwich But you can cook the chicken It takes two come on You go on YouTube Anyone can learn how to cook a chicken I don't think there's anything wrong with deli meat

Yeah I think so You think they're eating A little ham and cheese like you were saying Do you think they're eating rotissory chicken up on the Empire Rotisserie is good Rotisserie is actually good Rotissory should be fine I think you should also be able to get the pre-made

you know sandwich on the bean potato salad Oh yeah Well they are also working there ass off. Yeah, because they're eating sandwiches. That fuels the

American man. It's a beautiful thing. You can eat anything you want when you're working on side skyscraper. Real. Shane H. Wilder says,

I'm sorry, Libby. I'm going to be nerdy and correct you. Jim Jones did not use Kool-Aid. It was flavor aid. The dude couldn't even shell out for the good stuff.

Yeah, well, they were socialist. Yeah, there you go. Well, if you're killing everybody, you may as well. And actually, that is, of course, where, I mean,

it's sort of apocryful at this point because the Frade drink the Koolade comes from the Jim Jones Massacre, and nobody says drink the flavor aid. So I'm sorry, Shane, the history of it has been replaced with the metaphor. Also, too, the real story was they didn't drink the Kool-Aid willingly. It was by gunpoint.

Most of them, yes. Yeah, it was by gunpoint. And those that didn't, they shot them anyways. And they killed a congressman who went down there. They killed the congressman. That's when it went all awry. As soon as that congressman died and they killed him. I would argue it went a rye before that, but he definitely capped it off for sure.

And guess what? they were socialists didn't work again socialism failed again also wasn't he banging all the chicks on the compound of course yeah yeah yeah it's always the goo guys you gotta watch out for hey I'm starting you know more I learn about these cults the less I like them

I gotta say I'm not a big fan of these I can't take the opposite of that argument like I would love to take the opposite the cults are no bueno I can't name a good cult yeah I don't know what Scientology is the most successful Well, Heaven's Gate.

They got some cool shoes out of it, I guess. Yeah, nice. They did, man. Isn't their website? Exactly. Yes, they left one guy behind it through the website. All right. Mike G. says, count the illegals.

After they're rounded up and sent to detention centers in red states, let's play really dirty. Why are we sending them to detention centers? Why are we just send them out of the country? Well, because you got to put them somewhere before you get them on those flights. Oh, I see. Oh, staging. Yeah, like, what is it, a speedway slammer in, um, where's the speedway slammer?

Is that going to be an, uh, uh, uh, uh, Indiana, the Speedway Slammer, Alligator Alcatraz in Florida. Yeah. I'm just saying like the cost to put them like on planes and stuff, that's got to be insane. Well, Biden was like, well, not exactly paying for people to come in, but he was facilitating all those people to come in. It's got to cost money. It's got to cost money to get people out. Yeah.

No, I get it. Here's a good one from Mehmed to illegals were filling out the census. I did work census in 2010. I was a census crew leader specifically because I spoke Spanish. yeah they really because you're to your point hold on hold on yeah go ahead i agree with you that that the illegals are are hesitant to talk to government but these people were showing up in t-shirts jeans shorts saying hey talking to them in their native language saying fill out this form and it really like put them at ease in order to fill something out i will say 2010 though there's there has to be a difference here because

i understand what you're saying illegals with the anchor babies are a lot more confident than the illegals that don't have the anchor baby. So I'm sure the people that he was talking to in 2010 had American kids that were, so that would be interesting. Maybe super chat or throwing the comments. Let us know. Like how many of those illegals that he was censusing, surveying, had kids? I'd like to know. They're more confident. Yeah. Yeah. Could be. TN.P says, what's the chance we can get Kurt Kaz or Tyler Oliveira or Baldwin bankrupt on the podcast would be good to get some travel vloggers on that would be sick bald and bankrupt's like huge yeah really good does he have a contact i'm reach out yeah and kirk kaz he's he's i don't see as much from

tyler olivera but yeah kirk kaz is is does a lot of wild videos obligatory so the african shout to kirk kaz but tyler lavera just did that video we went to paris i don't know if anyone had seen that but like i mean i know like i think probably asman them covered the video and a tectone covered it and stuff but like the video is nuts if we just get people to go on the streets and show what it's really happening it's i still i'm sitting on a bunch of travel vlogs from Africa that I got to do something with them we should do something with them shameless plug am I right well no they're I don't know they're just sitting on a hard drive yes anything this is holding myself accountable to do something with oh there you go yeah um let's see here uh Andrew D from

NP says imagine Tulsi v Kamala in three full one-on-one debates oh Tulsi Rexer Tulsi Rector in 2020 well yeah What do you guys think, Tulsi? On the debate stage. Tulsi? Yeah, it's not going to get up here and say Kamala would win really decisively. I do, I mean, Libby, what do you think of this ticket? Like, J.D. Tulsi.

Maybe. Yeah. I mean, obviously, it's too early. I mean, it really sort of depends on what happens with the Russia stuff, right? What do you mean? Like, she dropped all those documents. And she closed. Yeah, alleging that Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Will we see arrests? Will we see something come from that? Okay. I think that that is actually so underreported right now. And we really need to know. What's a good thing you work for a news organization? Well, we've been reporting on it, you know? Where can they find that?

They could find that in the post-billennial, Sean. Hey. That's not a shameless plug. See the difference? Someone you didn't see, says, in keeping with Timcast tradition, we are here at the hospital for the delivery of our first child. Want to shout out my wife for staying so strong through the pain. praying for a safe delivery.

We will pray for a safe delivery as well. That is awesome. Congratulations. I will say like... Congratulations, that's wonderful. Tim always talks about the population of climbing, but for some reason every show, there's one or two kids

that are born in the Super Chats. That's very cool. So like, which way is it? I can't wait for the census. Everyone should have babies. It's better than everything else. Maybe they need to watch more Timcast. Maybe so.

I think we have... Timcast does something to these people. We have someone tomorrow that does not agree with that sentiment. I can't. Can't wait. Really? That's because that's your sentiment as well. I think having babies is the best.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's a work in progress. Vacant Stair says the asylums used to have large farms and they had the committed work in the farms or the other cottage industry. Yeah. I mean, that's still a, the chain gang is still a thing.

Like we still use labor from like. Like, is he saying prison? That's where we get our license. Asylums. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of the DMV, yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, we have all these people in prison.

and like yeah absolutely put them on the farms like you know like seriously what are we doing it's it's crazy like we're just paying for them to live in these prisons the prisons are making money we're losing money we used to have um criminals or felons or whatever you also fighting fires yes yeah yeah yeah they still do it i think they still do it yeah and they have like rotc programs too i think we're they're going to join the military and stuff like all that's good stuff you know like why are we using a uh under class of people that's not even from our country. We literally are paying for people who have three meals, you know, and beds every night. It's like, come on.

Yeah. And that, don't pay them. See? See, that's how you. They pay, they pay the- $2 an hour. Yeah, they pay the firefighters. No, the prisoners.

I think they, it's like, it's like something like a dollar an hour, two dollars an hour, something like for the work they do, something like that. Yeah, it's like, because they make it sound like it's slavery. It's like they're getting compensated. Right. Especially being in prison, your commentary runs out. Exactly. It's a great thing.

But I've got to be careful pronouncing this one. Come on and get some. Oh, come on and get some. Okay. Dude, that was... Got them. Scared. No joke.

The farm thing is a great idea. I know of a place called Renovitis. Renovatus in Jefferson City, Tennessee. It's a Christian-based program that houses them and has them learn skills on the farm. Shout out. Shout out. What's his name? Her name?

His name? Come on. Oh, yeah. Get some. But the place is called Renovatus and Jefferson City. I mean, yeah, these places, I mean, they have, like, they have these programs where they send people to like the troubled children to farms and these sorts of things like and a lot you know a lot of it too it's like

especially with troubled youths I know that words being used a lot but a lot of times when they get into jobs and they they actually go home from doing like a day's work there's a sense of pride there and I think again like that's something that's you can't measure you know mm-hmm surge is finding me another chat is that this one this one's a good Yeah, the Bruce Sobalovaro guy Bruce Sibalvaro. They edited the crime race profiles of arrested people

into non-Hispanic and white to boost and drop numbers. Oh, okay. Well, you see like some of these mugshots and white guy. Well, and what Fox had on the day were like the numbers, it was insane. It was like white, it was down, down, down, black was up, up, up, up. And then 2024 was like white was way up

and black was way down. I was like, what happened? That typically doesn't happen. Yeah, like, what happened there? It could be returning to it. a very traditional view, like the founding fathers, where, like, Franklin viewed anyone that wasn't English as, like, Swarthy. Maybe that's what's going on. Yeah. Maybe they're just returning to heritage. Or like the Post-Millennial reported, they're just messing around, I can't swear yet, but messing around the numbers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Playing with the, cooking the books.

Daniel Irving says, parents to prison, that is dumb, unless you give parents 100% control over their children. A parent should have 100% of their control their children at all times. If they're out there killing people, it's on the parents. It's the values that they taught them and the fact that they're not supervising them, it's their fault. Or if the child killed somebody, do we just jail the child? Like, is that a while? Well, both. But the problem is that you can't

because of the way the system is set up. Now the kids can't go to jail for a very long. Right, right. But I'm saying like to like, you don't get out and have no parents. Right. Because they'll be in prison. But like parents don't. I mean, Sean, you're completely misunderstanding how parenting works. You don't have control of your child 100% of your time because the entire process of raising a child is going from when they are totally dependent on you to when they are not dependent on you at all.

And that's the process of, that's the process of raising your child. If you raise your child. Like there's a totally different situation between having a, you know, one year old, two year old through like 10 years old, you pretty much have control over your child. But at a certain point, you put your child on the school bus. They're going off to high school. You do the best that you can. And ideally, you've done a great job, right? You feed your kid, you sit down with your kid every night for dinner, you talk to them all the time, you're in touch with what's going on with them.

So you should know what's going on, right? Yeah, but it's a process of growing your kid up so that they can take care of themselves and be part of the world. I'm just saying if your child is in a position where they've killed someone or did something horrible to another person, it leads me to believe that the parent has no idea what's going on in that kid's life because you would know, Libby, if you'd be. your kid was like with the maniac Latin disciples or whatever. I'm sure you would know by now, right? So like you as the parent should be responsible for like removing them from those situations. That's all I'm saying. Like there needs to be more accountability on the parents.

Some parents don't know and they think their kids are great. Some kids are psychopaths and can trick their parents and are thinking like everything's cool. Okay, that's an exception to the rule then. Most kids are not smarter than their parents can outsmart them. Just cut off their funding. Yeah. What is that? Cut off their benefits.

No money. Yeah. No, I agree with that. You don't have to jail, the parents cut off their benefits. Beat them. What benefits, though? What if they're taking, like, SNAP benefits? Oh, I mean.

You know, tax deductions on stuff, whatever. Just eliminate that. Okay. Your kid commits crimes, it won't stop. You don't get government benefits anymore. I'm just saying, like, not all kids that create cause crimes are on EBT. Well, sure. Yeah.

Like, the parents need to be an active role. Like, find the parents. Your kid keeps breaking into cars, you owe the government $7,000. It's the issue I have with the Elon statement because it's like, oh, about, like, oh, having kids such a good thing, blah, blah, blah, blah. blah, blah. They keep missing the part of the messaging, hey, when you have a kid, guess what? Your life is now focused on that kid. And a lot of parents, especially these days, with how it is economically, they think, oh, I can have a kid and, like, oh, it's going to be fine.

No, no, no, no. You need to, like, sacrifice and take care of that kid. And that means being a part of their life, talking to them, knowing what they're doing. And if they're in crime and doing all this other stuff, that's on you. Sorry, it's on you. Omega resetsu, just Japanese resetsu, I think. Oh, sorry. Oh, my bad. All right. As an individualist, I cannot agree with this potato in a blue jacket.

If the parents have done everything to prevent criminality, you should not punish the parents because peer pressure exists. I love this rage bait. I love it. It works in high school. Like, if your kid's not going to high school and they're not showing up and they're truant, you know, like the high schools will go after the parents. Obviously, it's not straight to jail. But, like, over time, if they're, like, completely delinquent and they're not showing up and they're doing all these horrible things on the street or whatever,

and the parents aren't doing anything about it. Prince court? Yeah, jail. So how many years should the parents go to jail for like a school shooter or something like that? Whoa, a long time. Like forever? Maybe. Like, it depends. That's what I'm saying. You have to show that you created an environment

as a parent or you allowed this to happen. Like, if you're a parent and your child ends up being a school shooter and you bought the kid the gun, you knew he was suicidal, you knew he was bipolar, and like all the science. were there, then yes, maybe punish the parent. Tony's coming around, he's warming up. But if, like, you just wake up one day and your kid just, like, totally flips the script and maybe does some crazy drugs that causes, like, then how can't punish the parent for that?

There are definitely exceptions to a rule. But if your kid's the weirdo kid that, like, doesn't shower and bathe and sits in the corner and, like, cries or whatever, and you know nothing about it, like, there's an onus on you as a parent, right? And like Tony said, they shouldn't have access to guns if they're crazy. Sorry. No, they shouldn't. Eric Shaver says, how do you guys complain about bums asking for money when you get paid through ad fraud inflation to sit around and B-word? You guys are the S-H-bombs.

You like being chastised by homeless people? Is that the implication? I mean, I'll send them your way if that's what you want, because you're like Mr. High and Mighty here. Oh, my God. That's such an uninformed take, too. The amount of work and sacrifice Tim has put into of this company and the amount of like he's putting 15 16 hours a day this team here working 15 16 hours a day working six days a week seven days coming up we got some other things coming up like it never stops here but it's it's our passion we love to do this work liby can talk about it too she's uh up in the morning 6 a.m what do when you go to bed 7 a.m. 7 a.m. 7 a.m. 7 a.m. 7 a.m. 7 a. When you go to bed? Like midnight. Okay. Most people don't are not doing that right.

So, like, 7 a.m. to midnight is a lot of work. So this guy has no idea what he's talking about. Yeah, Eric, yeah. Sorry, Eric. Relax. Methos, 671 says, I hate to say it, but I think the frontrunner is going to be Corey Booker. Oh, spicy. You think so?

Cory Booker? Speaking of potatoes and clothing. I'm interested to know why you think that. For the Democrats. I mean, I hope you. I mean, obviously. I don't disagree just because, like, I don't disagree just because, like, like all of the press on the

Democrat side, like any live stream I see from like the DNC or whatever always has him in it, you know, like he really is popular on, but so is what's his face, Newsome. And Newsom has a podcast, so I don't know. Newsom has a podcast because he's trying to launch a run for president.

Yep. Well, that's what I mean. Yeah, yeah. So like I think that that inches him out over Booker just because he has a podcast. That would be my guess. Is this one good? Patriot run. Patriot Paladin. I am 5-7, a Marine and Soldier who O-G-Ted all of my skills and picked up a lot of advanced skills and positions

before I got my bachelor's. Paper is just an appeal to authority. Thank you. I agree. Hard work beats talent when talent. What's the phrase? Hard work, baby. Yeah, so it's like, yeah.

I mean, you have the talent of, like, having an insane work ethic. Grine, grind. Especially a lot of these American schools, it makes them more lazy and we're entitled than anything. It's just like a glorified high school than it is, like, actually learning. Some, of course, some professions, like, I would, wouldn't want a, I'd want a doctorate degree, like, of course, like, but not, you know, I will say, like, I went, my high school was really hard. College was less hard and graduate school

was the easiest. Yeah. But there is a value to grind and you've got to grind. Life is all a grind. I wonder if that's why it was easier. I got better at working hard. Yeah, well, find what you're passionate about because the grind becomes enjoyment and not, you know, like I've been in the jobs where I hate them, you know, it's like you're going in, you're punching the clock. You know you have to be there eight hours sometimes you have to be there 12 hours i get it the rat race sucks but like you have to grind and like i just fear we're we're teaching these kids like it's like there's nothing you can do it's to just give up i mean how many gen zers are on the show saying nothing ever changes nothing ever happens it's like they're completely numb to anything like like and look

it changed look you're your timon tonight look at that something changed sailor matoko says there were clerical workers in haiti that literally could not learn how to alphabetize couldn't even conceptualize it so you can't just teach people how to do a job in all cases I mean Afghanistan's Exhibit A like we tried so hard to teach them democracy and they just were not into it Didn't grind. That's the problem

Yeah they maybe they just didn't work hard enough Yeah well no it's like you can't Military action will never change Will never change an ideology You can't go in and force someone to believe something I think ideologies are also just Instead of like being Top down their bottom up. It's like a forced passion

Right It's like the Japanese love our culture and they're always been impressed by us so like jeans and like American stuff is popular there in Afghanistan and Iraq they hate us and then you have Obama like killing all their kids all the time it's like um of course

they're going to hate us yeah uh Devin H says we have robots that pick strawberries look at Oshie Farm Corp in Jersey City they pick the very soft Japanese strawberries too energy costs is what kills vertical farming yeah yeah

I see a lot of stories of how energy-intensive some of these operations are. The clinkers need energy. It's true, dude. Flankers. We're taking our energy. We're taking our energy, dude. Fracking toasters. Frack and toasters.

Oh, no. There's going to be some bad ones coming out. You know it. I'm not even going to try. This one? Yeah. From Millennial Mama. Millennial Mama says,

It's always rich getting parenting advice from a bunch of dudes who have no kids. Yep. Not everyone can avoid military school. Some parents are actually doing the best. again. I'm, I didn't say anything, so I'm absolving myself. Listen, I think the wrong people are, the wrong millennial mama, you are on to something.

Well, millennial mama, I think, is taking offense to the wrong thing. Millennial mama's involved in her kids. Now you're going to speak for The people I'm talking about, listen, the people Exhibit A. The people I'm talking about are the people that have I apologize on behalf of the blue hoodie over here. The people that have no

presence in their kids. And we all disavow. We all know those people. All right, we can pretend like everyone's a great parent, but we know that's not the case. Like, there are some people that are more active in their kids' lives, some that aren't. And typically when you're more active, guess what? The kids typically do better, right?

That's all I'm saying. All right. Well, I think we're good to wrap. Let's see, 9.50. Yeah. Let's get one more. We'll take one more. Okay. I like it because it's Canada. Let's see. Ooh, this is Canada. Okay, Josh. Josh, this one. Josh, this one. Josh Berg says, I just read

a story today about a kid who was born at 22 weeks, but we deport the illegals, and we up the cost of abortions to pay for their medical treatment, and we fix our population crisis. Wait, say it one more time? I just read a story today about a kid who was born at 22 weeks, but we deport the illegals, and we up the cost of abortions to pay for their medical treatment, and we fix our population crisis. That was wrong one.

It's okay. I think I rumbled in this one mixed up. It's fine. It's all right. All right. I missed it. I was like a riddle, I think. I got to sleep on that one to figure out what he meant.

It sounds like it was like maybe offensive, but... Join the member show is going to be fun. People are yelling at me about how to parent. There's going to be fan. Yeah, so we're going to head to the Rumble uncensored version. People are going to lay into Sean, so sign up so you can be there. Tony, you want to shout anything out? No, I appreciate you having me on.

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