Timcast IRL - Trump Orders Review of Smithsonian For Being Woke & Out of Control w/ Kevin Sorbo

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

Phil, Elaad, & Tate are joined by Kevin Sorbo to discuss the left losing their minds over Trump calling for a review of the Smithsonian for being too woke, Tulsi Gabbard revoking the security clearances of 37 individuals, Republicans ability to win a redistricting fight against Democrats, and Hillary Clinton warning SCOTUS is likely to overturn gay marriage.   Hosts:  Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Elaad @ElaadEliahu (X) Tate @RealTateBrown (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Kevin Sorbo @ksorbs (X)

Donald Trump took to truthism to truth social today to voice his criticism of the Smithsonian and the legacy media called him racist for it. DNI Gabbard, Nick's 37 more clearances of individuals related to the Russia hoax, and we'll talk about that. Hillary Clinton thinks SCOTUS is going to do to gay marriage what they did to abortion, and she's probably right,

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I've got the new digs here since I had last been here. It's pretty impressive. Most people know who you are, but, For the people that don't, please introduce yourself. Well, I'm an actor, director, producer. I was Hercules for seven years. I'll brag a little bit, most watched TV show in the world back in the 90s, 176 countries. And And then Adromeda, the first show, Gene Roddenberry wrote after Star Trek.

I was Captain Dylan Hunt, first captain after Kirk. And then, since then, over 90 movies, I've got four new ones coming out. Awesome. And three new documentaries is done in the can. I've shot three new ones this year. They'll be out next year. So I'm staying busy. Busy guy.

I can complain. Tate is here. It's true. Producer Tate, Tate Brown here. I'm just blessed to be at a table with a legendary Kevin, sir. Oh, gosh. So, awesome to be here. Let's get into it.

I'm excited. We got the legendary a lot as well. Thank you. Good evening, everybody. I'm a lot of Eliahu White House correspondent here at Timcast. I don't know. Resident AI skeptic as well. I can get into that and other things later on the show.

We can get into that. All right. So we're going to jump right into it. From CNN, Trump escalates attacks against Smithsonian museums, says there's too much focus on how bad slavery was. Now, that's not what he said. He said a lot more than that. But, of course, you know, the legacy media is going to do everything they can to say Donald Trump is a racist.

He's a very evil bad man. He's orange. You should all hate him. So from CNN, though, President Donald Trump escalated his campaign to purge cultural institutions of materials that conflict with his political directives on Tuesday. Alleging museums were too focused on highlighting negative aspects of American history, including how bad. slavery was. In a truth social post, Trump directed his attorneys to conduct a review of museums comparing the effort to his crackdown on universities across the country. The Smithsonian is out of control where everything discussed is how horrible our country is, how bad slavery was and how

unaccomplished the downtrodden have been. Nothing about success, nothing about brightness, nothing about the future, Trump wrote. I mean, where's the lie? Right? This is pretty standard when it comes to academia, when it comes to, you know, things like museums and stuff, it really doesn't focus on anything positive about the United States. You know, so CNN went on. Trump's comments come after, come days after the White House announced an unprecedented sweeping review of the Smithsonian Institute, which runs the nation's major public museums. The initiative, a trio of top Trump aides wrote in a letter to Smithsonian Institution

secretary Lonnie Bunch the third last. week aims to ensure alignment with the president's directive to celebrate American exceptionalism, remove divisive or partisan narratives, and restore confidence in our shared cultural institutions. I'm not sure how that's a bad thing. I mean, Kevin, what do you, what's your sense? You know, everything's racist, right? Everything's Nazi. It's just how, it just gets going on for decades. It just gets old. And, you know, when, when Trump talks about that, it's, I look at liberals every day, every night they go to bed angry. And every morning they wake up angry. And it's like, what can I be pissed off

about today? And this is something I want to jump on them for, because reality is every country has good things, every country's had bad things, every single country. Why not in the museum, you can have what they got in there, but why not what he said? Why don't you put things that make America great? Make America the country everybody wants to come to.

And you just get bashed for that. It doesn't matter what Trump says or does. I posted on my ex-account, I said if Trump said air is beautiful and a wonderful big thing, they would start suffocating themselves. This is what they do. one of the lines that stuck out to me is how bad slavery was, right? And I would push back on that and say how bad slavery is,

because slavery still practiced in Africa, still practiced all over the Middle East. And it is a bad thing. But one of the things that they're leaving out is there is no slavery in the United States. There is no slavery. Well, arguably the 14th Amendment made it okay to enslave people if they go through the court system. but chattel slavery has been ended there's no slavery in europe and it was the british that actually ended slavery before we did before we did for the united states yeah around the world and that kind of you know that kind of that or that that truth that honest fact that the british were the the first to

in human history to end slavery because slavery was practiced you know by all human beings stop slavery was practiced by all human beings the fact that the British were the first to end it is never mentioned in any of the early 1800s I believe they abolished it before but wait for weed it took us

took us a war in 600,000 deaths before we abolished it but you know you can still talk about the sex trade though that is a form of slavery there's no question there but that's not what this issue was about but in the United States if you are found to have trafficked people we arrest you. We throw you in jail.

You know, we, and we free the people that were being trafficked. So the way that they cast the United States in places like the Smithsonian, and we went over a little bit of this the other day about the way that white privilege or, or what whiteness is and stuff. The way they cast people is actually counterfactual because they don't talk about the fact that white people were the first people to end slavery, the British, you know, that they went around the world and didn't just end it in in one place they ended it in the whole british empire and they you know a lot of people died doing it they fought there was a lot of fighting over it so i think that it's totally unfair to to cast the united states as some unique evil take

do you think that this is this is something that is going to be is going to resonate with americans do you think that it's something that is going to set americans in a you know set them up and and make them to get all up in arms. Well, I mean, I think Western governments, broadly speaking, I mean, the U.S., the UK, France, they just, their entire history curriculum is just meant to demoralize their own people. I mean, because if you go to, like, I've been to a lot of countries, have been to Qatar, been to Kenya, South Africa, Israel, Japan. And I always love going to the national museums in these countries because they're

proud of their heritage and they're proud of what their people have accomplished. And the entire museum is just filled with their highlights. It's like their highlight real. But then you go to the Smithsonian or you go to the British Museum in London or you go to the National Museum in France. And every exhibit that they have there is just pre-built with an entire paragraph, like a Star Wars Crawl-style apology for everything that you're about to see in this exhibit. Land acknowledgments and the like. Yeah. So if you're like a little five-year-old in Washington, D.C., you're visiting Washington, D.C., you know, from the home, from the heartland or if, you know, you're from England, visiting London, going to your National Museum. and you just see an apology before every single exhibit,

that's going to set in your mind early that, oh, I'm evil, my country is evil, my people are evil. And people around the world outside of the West do not have that problem. Do you think that it's a bad thing to cast your own country in a positive light, considering the fact that every country does country things, right? Nations do nation state things, and sometimes those things are not good for other nation states or other people. But do you think that it's a bad thing to cast your own country

in a positive light, or do you think that you should actually be as critical of your own country as you possibly can be? I think you should be fair and call balls, balls, and strike strikes. I believe the president's greater point here is that the Smithsonian institutions are choosing to focus on the worst things about our country and not focus on the way on... I think this is a battle of greater narratives. Are we a country founded based on white supremacy and that our founders are irredeemably bad, or is our country about overcoming and trying to live up to the values in our Constitution?

about how we overcame slavery, how we liberated Europe, how we acted as a bulwark against communism, or should we focus on all of our country's shortcomings and believe that our country is irredeemable because of them? Have we really acted as bullwark against communism? I definitely believe so. For a while we did, not lately. I mean, depending on who you ask, but, and I think it depends on whose values you ask, because I think people like those in the Libertarian Institute don't act as a bulwark against

communism, but I believe people like Trump and the Trump administration manufacturally do, manifestly do. I think that's the greater point here. What are their values we choose to focus on? Having said all that, I will say the Black History Museum is a blemish on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., just architecturally, that is, it's an ugly building. It's like an ugly brown, just if you guys wanted to pull up a picture of it, it's just it doesn't fit in with the architecture of the rest of the National Mall. but I don't think that's what Trump was talking about here.

It looks like a Toblerone bar. You guys know which one I'm talking about? It looks like the couple Tobleron bars. Yeah, it seems to be very out of place. The thing with like the Smithsonian and why this is so embarrassing is because this isn't our capital. This is where thousands of tourists visit. I mean, stuff like this, it's like thousands of tourists coming from all around the world and they see this and they see us apologizing. I mean, that's a terrible look.

Look what they pass as art. The liberals love ugliness. Tell me jahuas aren't going to come out of it. It's weird to me. what they do with their architecture. Tell me Jahuas aren't going to come out and they're going to shoot your robot and they're going to take it.

What, what's the Jawa? Is that a... From Star Wars. Oh, okay. I thought that was another AI. No, no, no, no. A robot or something. No.

But anyone that's familiar with the old Star Wars would recognize that. But it does. It looks like the Jawa's, you know, big transport. Anyways, it does look ugly. And I do think that it's worth, you know, a society at least, like you said, calling balls and strikes.

You know, it is, we shouldn't hide the fact that there was slavery. We shouldn't hide the fact that there was Jim Crow, but we should highlight the fact that those things ended, that we do not endorse those things currently, that we got rid of slavery in the United States, that 600, like you said, 600,000 people died. More people died in Gettysburg in one battle than died in the, then Americans died in the whole Vietnam War. Well, more people died in that, in the Civil War than all of our wars. combined together. So that's quite amazing.

That's 600,000 of our own people as well. So this is sort of what we're stuck at. But here's the problem. It boils down to where we are in education system as well and through our universities because we're not teaching civics to kids. We don't want people to know it's we the people. They don't want kids to know that. They don't want to teach them real history anymore.

I mean, it's just incredible. When I was in school, I took American history, Far Eastern Studies and Russian Studies. That was in my public school. It was amazing. Where did you grow up? I grew up in a little town called Mount Minnesota, it's about 25 miles west of Minneapolis, where unfortunately, Minnesota's turned into California with those politics. But they still have a pretty good public education system to this day. But back then, it was amazing. I really, it was very fortunate where I grew up.

It's fascinating because on issues like the Civil War, as I understand in some southern states, they actually teach it as the War of Northern Aggression. That's not how I was taught in the Civil War history. Am I making that up? I believe that's what it's taught in the South. Back in the day, I'm sure. Oh, not anymore. I don't think that it's currently that way. I think it's probably, probably in the 60s it was like that. I don't imagine that after the civil rights movement, I don't imagine that that was the case. But, or at least after the Department of Education. Well, now you're seeing a reaction. Like, there was a story today this morning or last night or this morning where the state of Oklahoma, their Board of Education, they want to

pass a mandatory exam for all inbound teachers that are coming from California or New York, and they basically want to make them take a Patriot test. They're going to administer this. I think Prager, Prager, you might be behind it. Good. But yeah, I mean, you see these TikToks on Twitter of these teachers. I mean, who knows where these people come from, which sewer they emerge from?

So, yeah, I mean, I think Oklahoma's setting the standard. Well, it's either be an Antifa member or be a public school teacher in California. It was a tough decision. Look, I mean, Oregon just had some, I don't know, they passed something where students do not have to be able to read or do math to graduate high school. Go figure. So what are they doing in school besides putting up different flags?

Well, what they're actually doing is they're learning how to be political activists. Yeah, yeah. Because if you can actually, if you can make children into political activists before they're even teens or whatever, if you can awaken a critical racial consciousness or awaken awaken a critical consciousness in them, not only do you make them more neurotic and make them more likely to be unhappy, which unhappy people become activist, happy, content people do not engage in revolutionary activities. So the leftists in schools, they want kids to be neurotic and you make kids neurotic by starting when they're young and showing them all these horrible things about the world, right? Look how terrible this country is and this was real and these poor people here and look, this is bad.

And you show them all these things and you end up with kids that are like... Useful idiots. Essentially traumatized. And yeah, they are useful and idiots. Well, look at Lenin said back in the Bolshevik Revolution. He talked about the way to control the population is through education, and that's what they're doing, and that's what they're doing here.

We've accelerated it up, but we started in 1964, but taking the Bible out of the schools, right? We give up to prisoners, of course, but everybody was homeschooled prior to public education coming into the late 1800s, maybe, when we started public education.

Everybody was homeschooled. You know, they grew up on the farm, they were at the Bible, they could learn whatever kind of history they could learn, but we change that so drastically and the brainwashing of these kids is the biggest, I think, the blessing of COVID is

so many parents woke up saying they've got to get her kids out of public education. Two million more families are now homeschooling because of that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you see such a visceral reaction from the left towards parents that homeschooled their kids or even religious schools. I mean, they also have an ax to grind with religious schools. And the reason is because the kids that come out of those schools end up emulating their parents more than they end up emulating their teachers. And that's a huge problem.

Like you said, if there's any sort of... They want control. Precisely, yeah. What's interesting, go back to the 60s, with those parents, I mean, and the whole hippie movement and all that and moved 60s and the 70s. The whole thing back then was we are against

the man. The man was the government. Those same people did a 180 during COVID. Yeah. I said, trust the man and don't question science. I laughed at it all the time. I go, that's what science does. I have, when I hear people say those kind of things that in the 60s they were saying, don't trust the man and they

were against the man. Even things like they were against the Vietnam War, I push back and I don't think they actually were against the man or against the Vietnam War they just were against the people in power because they were out of power they were against the Vietnam War because

America was fighting communists right the communists in Vietnam the North Vietnamese if it were I mean Jane Fondo went to Vietnam and she was very happy to take pictures with the Vietnam the fighters the military

of the North Vietnamese so it wasn't I don't think that they were actually against the man. They were against the United States. They were against capitalism. They were against the status quo here in the West. But they weren't against the established. They weren't against powerful centralized government. They were very pro centralized government because they were communists.

They would call themselves anarchists and probably LARPAs as anarchists, but they certainly weren't. But I think we're going to move on right now. All right. So from the post-millennial, we'll go to jump to this story. From the post-millennial, breaking Tulsi Gabbard terminates 37 security clearances for individuals relating to Russia hoax, politicizing and manipulating intelligence. Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard has revoked 37 security clearances of current and former officials who have abused trust by politicizing and manipulating information. This includes people who are involved in the Russia collusion hoax. An O-D-N-I memo dated Monday and first obtained by the New York Post stated that the president has directed that, effective immediately, the security clearances of the following 37 individuals are revoked.

Among those who had their clearances stripped was a former top aide to Obama administration DNI, James Clapper, Vin Yugan. I'm pronouncing that name wrong. When? Vin-W-W-N. VIN. V-W-N-G-Y-E-N is when? That is something else. Their access to classified systems facilitates, facilities, materials, and information is to be terminated forthwith.

Any contracts or employment with the U.S. government by these 37 individuals is hereby terminated. Any credentials held by these individuals must be surrendered to the appropriate security offers, the officers the memo stated. It is the determination of this office that certain individuals have engaged in some or all of the following conduct undermining those standards to include politicization or weaponization. of intelligence to advance personal interest, partisan, or non-objective agendas, inconsistent with national security priorities, failure to safeguard classified information in accordance with applicable laws, relations and agency policies, regulations and agency policies, excuse me, failure to adhere to professional analytic trade craft standards and other conduct detrimental to the trust and confidence required for continued access to national security

information. Do you guys, is it your sense that there's going to be more of this? coming, or do you think that this is something that is finally reached a peak and we'll see less of this in the future? Well, there's certainly far more than 37 names as of this morning in the Intel community that are fighting tooth and nail to prevent the Patriot takeover of the United States government or the Patriot restoration of the United States government. There's a lot of snakes in the Intel community. So 37 names, that seems like a good start, I suppose.

But, I mean, like I said, I mean, you see over and over again. there's a lot of, there's a lot of shady stuff going on. Well, there were 51, I think, that were on the initial, the people that signed the Russia, Russia, Russia, Steel dossier, that they'd said, oh, this is actually Russia collusion and stuff. And so, I mean, I don't know how many they've got already. I know that they've done at least a handful already before this week. But I don't know what their, what their total is. It's been a trickle as far. This seems like the first big batch to get their security clearances yanked.

But, yeah, I mean, like I said, I think the rot goes far deeper and the, not just the intel community, but national intelligence, broadly speaking. Lod, for the people that are critical of the administration, do you think that this is a demonstration that they are actually doing the things that they said they were going to do? Do you think that, and I don't think that this will, personally, I don't think that this is actually going to, you know, satisfy the people that are like, well, we haven't seen enough arrest and stuff. but do you think that this indicates that the administration is doing the things that they ran on and they are looking to, you know, sniff out the bad actors? So I could be out of my depth here, but as I understand, these people aren't actually, search says I probably am out of my depth, but I don't think these people are actually receiving any intelligence that the security clearance, like, enables them to receive.

So I'm not sure how relevant it is at this point in time. for former DNI James Clapper or Vin Nguyen to have his security clearance stripped because I'm not sure it really matters at this point. So unless I'm missing something here, it just feels like some red meat for the base because I know he was making some promises to come after some people who were perpetuating the Russian collusion hoax, including Peter Schiff, who I believe they're going after for mortgage fraud and something else related to the Russia collusion hoax. well he and uh shiv actually had to open up a defense fund recently as a result of that stuff so

even if these don't bear much fruit the investigations in and of themselves um is a punishment for a lot of these democrats so these are just security clearances so unless i'm missing something here i don't know if this is just posturing well the i mean the big thing is this is this is a huge hit for them in the private sector because in the private sector the security clearance is worth a lot of money we're talking on potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars largely from the table. So this is like a huge hit. My ex-wife had a security clearance for a while when she went from working, when she was from in, went from being in the Marine Corps to working in the private sector,

the amount of money that she could pull in right out of as an E5, she got out of the Marine Corps as an E5. And her first job, she was making a boatload of money. And it was just because of the security clearance. It's not that, you know, it's not that she was doing something totally different than what she did in the, in the Marine Corps. But with that security clearance, it really does. benefit. Do you think, Kevin, do you think that this is something that, do you think that this is just a punishment where that losing of the security clearance is actually like losing, you know, the ability to make money? And do you think that this is, even if they don't have the ability to arrest them, they're going to say, well, you know what, you behaved this way and we know you did. And so we're going to take your security clearance so that way you can't capitalize on it. Well, I mean, as you all mentioned, I think it is a, it is a showcase, certainly. But I think there's a lot more names in the well. They're pulling you out right now and maybe just sending out a signal with it. Look, if you look back to the Russian inclusion, we all knew it was a joke.

We all knew as it begin with. I mean, do you think Putin wants Trump in office? Of course he wants Biden. Of course he wants Hillary. He doesn't want it because he knows they can push those guys around. He can't push Trump around. There's no way he'd want him in there. So for them to go through this, I think they should be punished for it in some way because it was a joke.

They all knew they were lying. Schiff is at the head of it all. But, you know, I think it's good. I think it's a start. At least it shows something out there. But I think there's bigger fish to catch out there. and I hope they do it. I mean, yeah, this is what keeps people around the deep state, so to speak.

I mean, it is very real. This is the type of thing we're referring to as these bureaucrats that maintain the benefits even after a new administration has come in. So, A, this cuts them off from the private sector, so it cuts them off from a lot of wealth. And also, if God forbid, a Democrat does come into office in 2028, it's going to make appointing a lot of these people reentry into the government a lot more difficult because now they have to, you know, reinter the security clearance process. I think Nancy Pelosi will still give them stock tips.

So they'll probably do okay. Fair enough. If she's around then, I mean, she's a, you know, she's, she's, she's an old lady now. But she, you know, nobody can pick stocks like Pelosi. To your point, Tate, the revolving door, I do think that that's worth mentioning. This is actually likely to close that revolving door on a lot of these people and taking away the ability for them to come back. It is something we talked about, you know, I think we talked about it last night. if the Democrats win, the whole bureaucracy will be reinstalled, right?

So the next time that a Democrat is elected to the office of president, they're going to a point a lot of the same people and a lot of the same kind of people, the people that are, that believe that the administrative state is necessary and that it is more important to have the administrative state as opposed to making the rules, as opposed to Congress making the rules. And I think that's one of the major problems that we have in the U.S. right now that Congress has abdicated their responsibilities and they've handed it over to the bureaucracy because the bureaucrats are the ones that stay there. The bureaucrats are the ones that don't go away. If a congressperson, you know, if they make a vote that their constituents

don't like, they can lose their job. So why can make a vote when you can just hand off the, you know, the responsibility to Congress? Well, I mean, it's true across the world that governments that are not accountable to a democratic system are much more agile. They can make long-term plans. So it makes sense that even within democracies like the United States, even though we're a constitutional republic, but they've sort of hammered in a lot of democratic institutions that didn't exist in the founder's eyes. That's neither here nor there. The problem is, yeah, like you said, it's going to create an incentive for Congress to kick the long-term strategic planning off to bureaucrats because they're concerned about winning another election. So the best

they can do is just provide enough red meat to get across the finish line for the next election and let the bureaucrats figure out all the long-term strategic planning. That's how you end up with Forever Wars. That's how you end up with ridiculous tax systems. That's how you end up with ridiculous social programs because those programs are not, they're not, the bureaucrats or the Congress people are not held accountable for those programs in the eyes of the voters. They can just pawn it off to someone that you don't know. That's, that's one of the ways that, or that's one of the ways that we have moved away from being a representative republic you know the the fact that our representatives don't actually take votes they don't or they don't make votes they're not held accountable

they've offloaded that responsibility to the bureaucrats and the bureaucrats don't answer to the voters at all so i don't think that it's accurate to say that we're a a democracy um and we're definitely not a republic because because we don't have right representatives anymore. So when people say that we're an oligarchy, I don't think that that's accurate either, but I'm not sure exactly what type of government we could actually say that we do have now. Well, I think the midterms are important. I think we need to get a few more seats in Congress, but I'm going to go on the limb here. I think we're going to hold the presidential office till at least through 44. Yeah, 44. Wow. There's enough Trump's out there. I hope so.

I think Vance gets it and I think Rubio gets it right over that. Yeah? I mean, look, it would be really cool. I mean, I would like to see that because, like I said, I think that should the Democrats get back into office, should they take over the government again, you will see the bureaucracy come back with a vengeance. I think that they will attack conservatives. Well, they're doubling down now. Yeah. They don't even seem, they've learned nothing. It's just they're more angry about things. Well, I mean, there could even be a situation, a nightmare situation I've seen proposed by a few anons on Twitter is when you clear out these career bureaucrats that have been in there since,

you know, the 80s and 90s, is that if, again, I don't think it's likely, but if a Democrat were to get back in and they could reinstall a bureaucracy, you're going to bring new blood in and those are going to be activists. Those are going to be your protesters from Columbia and NYU. you're going to have an entirely new bureaucratic class and they're going to be far more fired up, have far more of a chip on their shoulder. Do you think that that is something

that the general public is aware of? I understand there's a lot of people that are like, well, you know, I don't really like the Republicans or I don't really like Trump. That's fairly normal. But do you think that the danger of having real progressives in positions of considerable political power is something that the average voter is,

is cognizant of? Do you think that's something they think of? Because it'll mean really bad things because what the left really has been doing in the past 10 years or so is completely hollowing out the middle class. They want to have elites and a class that's basically dependent on the government. They don't want a middle class. A middle class is an empowered class. A middle class can make decisions on their own, make decisions about their own life. They're generally informed but if you have a dependent class and an elite class but no middle class then you can really you can use the government to keep the dependent class in line and keep them doing the things that you want and you obviously the elite classes is going to live on you know

live it up so i'm not as hopeful as kevin about republicans maintaining the executive until 2040 i like his positive attitude but i do suspect that um the thing about president trump is that i i'm I think he's a very unique figure in how he was able to completely rally all different, all these disparate parts of the Republican Party that I don't think a future Republican would be able to do in the same way that he has. Trump was able to bring like pro-life people, neocons, all these tracons, different religious groups, Zionists, everybody together, anti-woke people, anti-communists, all together in this rare coalition that I think J.D. Vance might not be able to or Marco Rubio might not be able to.

And moreover, I don't think you guys are going far enough with what I believe the Democrats will do once they get back into power, which at this point I kind of think is an inevitability because of the uniqueness of how uniting of a figure President Trump was. Not just like dealing with bureaucracies, but the way the Democrats talk about our country is that they want it to be a democracy. They see our constitutional republic. Yeah, exactly. They see Congress and the way that senators are appropriated to states as an issue, as a shortcoming of our country, and that this. stops us from being a total democracy, and that's what they really want to be. So an inevitability that I believe we'll see with the next Democratic president is the inclusion of Puerto Rico or D.C. as a state, and those will permanently give the Democrats another

handful of senators and also people in the House. Moreover, they're going to continue trying to flood our country with immigrants and then use the census to try to appropriate different more reps into areas where they don't belong. And then also packing the Supreme Court, I suspect they will do because they will not be able to put up with this conservative majority Supreme Court for a few more decades to come. So I think they're going to use the pretext of what President Trump did in Texas with redistricting as an excuse to what they are going to do once he is out of power. And you can tell Trump's a little bit concerned about losing the House because he felt as though it was necessary to redistrict in Texas. He felt it was necessary that at least

Stefanik stayed in her house seat in New York and not go to the United Nations and not be a UN U.N. Ambassador. Tate, do you think that what he's outlining Trump, I think he's probably right about Trump, do you think that that's just smart politics, though? I mean, yeah, I mean, it's a razor, razor, the house majority is razor tight. So, yeah, I mean, keep Stefanik there, keep, as Mike lawyer was tip for a gig. He didn't want to be, um, their considerations of him running for governor, but the president would have preferred him to stay in the house.

I mean, why else would he have redistricted Texas on an off year? It's traditionally done every 10 years. Oh, because of the exodus from California. There's a, and because of the import of all the illegal aliens that came in during the Biden administration. So to redistrict, the point is, I think, and I think this is partly what Trump was thinking. Not that I think, not that I disagree with you because I think you're right. I think he's just finding an excuse to get more house seats, which I don't blame him for it because if he lost the house, then he would be impeached. No, I think I agree with that, but I don't think that that's the only thing, because if you look at the way that the Democrats have done the gerrymandering in basically the whole country, they have really maximized everywhere they can.

We showed a map the other day of kind of who looks to benefit the most if there's, you know, gerrymandering. And the Republicans have a lot of room. There's a lot of places where they can change the congressional maps and actually benefit a lot. the Democrats maybe could squeak out three or four more seats but if the Republicans are like we're going to go we're going to fight this and we're going to fight fire with fire and we're going to do a bunch of gerrymandering too look they're they can produce a whole lot more seats than than Democrats can because the Democrats have been so effective in the past not saying that Republicans haven't done it because of course they have but the Democrats have really been able to maximize it so I think that I feel like that that's something that Donald Trump is aware of and it's something that he's looking to, you know, ameliorate. He's looking to fix because there's a lot of states that are, that don't have any representation for the conservatives. No.

You get like 35, 40 percent of the state, like Massachusetts, right? That's a state that I grew up in. 35, 40 percent of the state went for Donald Trump. So obviously, it's clearly not a majority, clearly a majority Democrat. But there's no representation for any of the conservatives in the whole state. Massachusetts has zero Republican Republicans and Republicans. the House, there's zero Republicans basically anywhere, and there's multiple states like that. Minnesota's got the same problem. Minnesota, I mean, everybody I know Minnesota is conservative.

If you look, if you break into each county down, most of it's red. It's just around the, you know, Minneapolis, San Paul area, maybe down Rochester and all the kind of, but it's changed so much. My buddies are all going, I don't know what to do with this thing, but you're talking about the people moving. Everybody left California because of what they've done, the Democrats, into that state. But a lot of these people are Democrats themselves, and they leave and go. going to Vegas and Nevada, they go in Arizona, they go to Texas, and they still vote the same way. That's the amazing thing to me. So I don't think, no, look, I'm not that educated with all the stuff you guys are talking about either, but I think I keep more of a finger out than the average

person out there. I think they just watch, you know, the daily news and maybe, whatever, John Stewart, and that's what they get their news. So they don't get, I mean, a different perspective of it. I flip channels, I find it kind of interesting. We go between CNN, going to the, you know, the British, watching them. I mean, it's interesting. to get three different stories on the same story. So, you know, it's just a matter that's people wanting to get educated with and I don't think they want to.

They just made up their minds and moved into the state and they wrecked it. Look, they wrecked Colorado. Look what happened to Colorado. And it's because of, you know, two cities basically. Yeah.

And Boulder, right? I think the easy ways, it's going to take a long time to turn us into the socialist country they want. Why don't they just go to Venezuela now? It's waiting for them. Right?

It's their utopia waits. Just go down there. I'll use our tax dollars that way and get them a first class flight one way. Yeah, I mean, you're going to see the redistricting. There's going to be a lot more options for red states if the SCOT decides how we think they are with the race-based districting case out of Louisiana.

I mean, because there's a lot of seats that are up for grabs, mostly in state houses. I mean, this whole thing started because the Louisiana Senate added to black districts in Louisiana, and they got sued because it's like you can't, that's just ridiculous. This is 2025. We're not going to do race-based districts one way or the other. So again, that'll create some opportunities for red states to squeeze more red districts. So the one really funny part about redistricting is that obviously it's tit for tat, so like we'll see California now do some redistricting and it'll go back and forth.

But you know who really hates this Congress members? Members of Congress obviously get pissed off because they're getting drawn out, both Republicans and Democrats from opposite side states. So the one silver lining here is it's really funny that a bunch of Congress people are about to get cut out and be very pissed as a result of it. That's why you've seen a few House members from Republican and Democrats all of a sudden turn it into Arnold

and they're like, wait, no, guys. Jerrymandering's actually really bad. We need to do something like that. I don't blame them. They don't want to get drawn out. Because they know their gigs on the line and they got to start looking for their stay back in home. We need term limits, but that's another subject we can talk about.

That's another thing. I'm not 100% sure that term limits are going to fix anything because I think that that empowers the bureaucracy. I mean, you know, it's like I love the idea. Like the point is to be able to make sure that people aren't entrenched and that the or that the representatives aren't entrenched and that's a great goal.

But I'm afraid that all that it would do is shovel more power to the bureaucracy because you got, you know, you got two terms, whatever as a senator or how many, Congress is only two years. So by the time Congress learns exactly, you know, basically how to do their job after the end of their first term,

they've got two years before they're out. So I don't, I don't hate the idea, but I do think that a lot of people think, well, just throw the bums out. It's great. That sounds great. But remember, we have a problem with a bureaucracy here. We don't have a problem so much with Congress. Everybody hates Congress, except for their own Congressperson. Everybody likes their own congressperson. And poll after poll after poll, show that. So as much as it would be great if we could just be like, well, throw the bums out, what you end up with, I think, is a lot of focus or a lot of power, a lot more power in the bureaucracy.

This is the map. That's interesting. This is the map we were talking about the other day. Chris Eliza, who is not a pro-Trump guy, he's talking about in a redistricting war, Republicans would win. And they would win by a lot. Like, there's a lot of room for Republicans to grow. So if the Democrats want to do this, if they want to actually try to be like, oh, we'll

redistrict and we'll show you, that's a terrible strategy. They just don't have the room to grow the way that Republicans do. So, I mean, look, I'm not for this kind of redistricting war, but if the Democrats want to, they're going to lose. This is the reality that they have to face. So, honestly, I think that they're just posturing because I think that the smart Democrats know this. So I think that it's all just them trying to, you know,

trying to frighten people or trying to posture conservatives. I mean, I think this is an inevitability because we're just seeing any, and I'm not saying this is inherently a good thing, because often when you hear bipartisan actually means you're about to get screwed over, but I think this has been the direction we're heading for for a while is any sense of bipartisanship would be going out the window. And I think to a certain degree, states that did allow the opposing party a few seats, I think Jerry Manduig is going to really, really become the new standard, squeeze as many of the opposing party seats out as possible. I think as a country, we're just going to be divided further and further. So I don't think this is really surprising whatsoever. This is just like a natural direction we were going in. Pretexts for escalation when a Democrat inevitably gets back in. They'll run on this and say the Republicans are destroying our democracy by redistricting mid-decade.

And we have to do add more states as a result of this. We have to pack the court because the judges that Trump put in were illegitimate. And that's what will, and they'll use this as the pretext. I do think that you are right. They will use this as the pretext, but I don't think, I think that when they get back in, when and if they get back into power, they will do all the things that we talked about, regardless of whether conservatives do this. Because there's no, there's no reason for them to not. I mean, they're convinced, they're convinced to speak to your average media and Democrat. They're convinced that Trump is trying to institute the Fourth Reich in the United States.

So obviously they're going to, you know, try to make Puerto Rico. Rico a state or whatever because it's like they're convinced they're in a movie and that they're like the rebel alliance ever since basically a Barack Obama they thought that okay the Democrats are now going to control the government we're going the the real competition is going to be who gets to be the Democrat nominee the Republicans are going to be just a regional party they're not ever going to have serious power again they you know erroneously thought that and they got really complacent And then they met Donald Trump as a candidate and everything changed. And one of the things that happens when it comes to the Democrats is if they lose ground, they don't just say, oh, well, we'll get them next time.

They literally freak out. That's why everyone was so apoplectic when Donald Trump won. That's why you saw people, the leftists in DC, literally screaming when Donald Trump was inaugurated on the 20. of the 20th of January 2017, they were absolutely besides themselves because they thought that they had a permanent power base. They thought that they would not ever lose control. And they thought from here on out it was whatever progressives and Democrats wanted. And to lose that power, they don't know how to deal with it because it's not just a matter of, okay, next time we'll adjust our message and we'll go to the people and we'll make a better argument. No, no, no. They're not interested in

making arguments. They're interested in expanding the court. They're interested in ending the electoral college and they're interested in adding states. That's not what you do when you lose in a democracy. What you do is say we need to make our arguments better. We need to convince the American people why these things are right and we need to change our platform so that way the American people want to vote for us. But they're not interested in doing that. They don't have any, they have not done any soul searching. Maybe Gavin Newsom did because Gavin Newsom's out there doing the podcast and stuff. And he's got a good media team.

So maybe there are a handful of them, but the vast majority of the influential Democrats have done no soul-surging. They're not interested in doing that. They're interested in doing whatever they can to put Donald Trump in jail, which they tried. They will do all these things

should they get back into power. They will do the, you know, expand the core, all that stuff. That stuff is definitely coming. And I personally think that they'll do a whole lot, more. I think that they'll look to put people like Tim Poole or people that are conservatives that have a

have an influential voice. They'll put those people in jail. They'll do everything they can't to make sure that you can't. You know, they'll have the DOJ and say, oh, this is, we've got this thing on you because they did it to Donald Trump and it almost worked. If they get back into power, they'll do it again and they will be

they'll do it with two three times, ten times the force because they believe that they are entitled to power. They are entitled to power. they're entitled to be in charge, they are entitled to rule, and they will smash their political opponents. I don't think that there's a big, there's a, there's a compelling argument against that. And I do think you're right, Alad. I think you're completely 100% dead on, but I don't think that not doing these things will prevent them. I think that the die has already been cast.

As soon as they get into power, and I mean, they've talked about all those things so many times they're they're going to do it you know it's funny you name job newsome because i think he i think he said he'd draw out all but one republican in california i think he said something along those lines and i mean the incentive structure is set up such that if he wants to run for president down the line this is what he should be doing right the democrats want to see one of their own so-called fighting back against the president and gavin's doing just that yeah and he's a handsome he's a handsome guy so he should vote for him i'm not in californian and No, I know. It's just funny.

I mean, you know, here's the guy who can't put any water in the fire hydrants, and it's a guy that's the, you know, the number one salesman for U-Haul. But it's just really weird for me that this guy is able to, he'll run. He'll be the guy they put out there. He'll probably be the nominee. But how do they think they can get the message across and we put Harris and Biden in office? Because those people can't talk their way out of anything. I mean, it was amazing to me that, well, did they really get in office?

But that's another thing we can talk about too. Our boy, Tate here, has got a great point that he likes to make. make, and that's people vote on vibes. Yeah. It's true. America is a very vibes-based country. And evidence for this is Gavin Newsom's adoption of Trump's mannerisms and his tweeting style, which is hilarious because it's kind of this, there's two concessions happening

there. The first concession is Gavin Newsom in the left broadly conceding that America, Trump embodies America so well that his style of communication embodies like an American style of communication and that they're conceding that he's funny. and that it's a really funny way of communicating. So they're not even really mocking Trump when they're using his tweets and stuff. They're almost just saying, like, yeah, this is a really funny way to talk. And then the second concession is that they've gone too far in the anti-American direction

that they're seen as anti-patriotic. And exhibit A for this was in Gavin Newsom State during the L.A. riots when they're flying Mexican flags everywhere in Guatemala, Nicaraguan, da-da-da-da-da. As they started begging these protesters to fly American flags because they're like, guys, I know you're doing something really anti-American, but at least have the pretense, make it look patriotic. Start waving American flags around and that sort of thing.

So there's two concessions. Well, they're all passing them around. They went in their whiff flags. They know how bad it looks. You know, Newsom does give off chill white guy vibes, if you will, and Democrats are trying to win that vote back over because they lost it in the previous election.

So I think that's what they're going back to trying to get back some of the white vote. And he gives, you know, he's a good, White face, if you were. After Kamala got whooped like that, the DNC is going to look like a Vineyard Vineyard Vine's ad next 2028. It's going to be like, it's going to be like white boy central.

Because, I mean, that gives off those vibes. Yeah. Yeah. At least that's what the establishment. I mean, dude, there's these electa bros on Twitter and they're like begging Democrats to consider Andy Bashir because they're just,

they just want to win so bad. And they know the way to do that is they put up just like a normal, normal like white guy because, I mean, they literally DEI'd Kamala. Like Biden literally said, I'm going to nominate a black woman for vice president. That was her qualifications. During the COVID pandemic, it was him. It was news.

Yeah, he was. That's such a white boy thing to do. Like during the pandemic, oh, I need to take my girl out to the fancy restaurant still. And I get caught there. Of course I took my wife here. What do you expect? Yeah, I still got to put it on for her. There's almost, there is almost a distinctively, like an arrogant white guy.

That's such an arrogant white guy thing to do in a positive way. There's like a distinctively American quality. of just being like just this like greased hair like slime but like I'll do anything to like win like there is like a weird a Machiavellian that it's like all right granted he's like basically a communist so that kind of that kind of fall short but there is something refreshing about a guy that is so evil that he's like I'll say whatever to win who's that actor? He's honest about it Baitman oh Patrick yeah he's like Patrick Bateman of politics yeah you say some sort of I was going to say it's day go coded it's very day oh yeah he's going to get up there and lie to your

face and get a combing? No, if you know, if you look at the picture of his family, everybody's blonde and blue-eyed, that is, that is waspy as hell. And to be honest with you, I don't know that the left, I really don't know that the left, especially in a primary, and we've probably talked about this a little bit, but I really don't think the left can bring themselves to vote for such a waspy-looking guy. Well, I mean, they did with Biden, but they did with Biden, and it took the... If you really believe that he won that in kosher, what? I don't, I Personally, I don't think that's a conversation for it. I think that I think it was a novel election, and I think that if it were not for the fact that there were ballots mailed to everybody and there was ballot harvesting, Biden would not win.

I honestly, I don't, I don't know that a rabbi in to see if that election was kosher. I don't, I don't think that I'm not, well, I don't know that I think, but I am curious as to whether Democrats can win at all, should they actually go to. same day paper ballot. That's what they should do and you know more mail-in voting. It's ridiculous. Yeah, I would love to- It's not racist to show an ID. I mean, there's all kinds of stuff we can talk about here. It just starts to be crazy. Start at 8 in the morning. The polls close at 8 at night. What they do to other countries. It's what they do in Florida. If you look at Florida, they have their S together when it comes to the way. India knocks it out in a day. I will say this guys. I know, I feel as though mail-in ballots might be getting a bad rap

because of the previous election, but I think they might actually skew to help Republicans because Republicans tend to skew older. And if you skew older on election day, if there's something that gets in your way or there's bad weather, old people are less likely to vote. And if you give them a week or so to kind of send in a mail-in ballot ahead of time, I understand the security concerns of it. But I do feel as though it actually biases towards Democrats to have it only be if there's honest voting I mean as people are filling these things in by the thousands

and stuffing them in I mean there's video footage 2,000 mules is a very interesting documentary that the Nash put out there well I mean all this is I think we're just putting band-aids on bulls and I think the Trump administration is aware of this and that's why they're cracking down on the immigration stuff so hard because birthright citizenship is still in the books SCOTUS still hasn't gotten rid of it and I don't know if they can

I hope so. So it's like we're just looking at a ticking clock because there's still tens of millions of illegal immigrants in this country that are having children and those children will vote Democrat because, I mean, they feel victimized by the Trump administration. Of course, they're going to have a chip on their shoulder. Hey, who knows? The President Trump's been winning over a lot of these Hispanic voters and the districts that he's redrawing in Texas are actually, there's so many Hispanics on those border towns that

these are these are Tahanos that have been there for four or five, six. What does that mean? I don't know what it's like Mexican Americans and Texas. Texas that have been there for generations because you can tell because Hispanics in California vote like 70, 30 Democrat while Hispanics in Texas are now voting Republican. But the big difference, Hispanics aren't this, you know, monolith is because the Hispanics in Texas have been there for generations, right? I mean, many of them can trace their lineage from before the Texas Revolution versus California. They've all arrived in the last two generations. I do feel like

there is this growing brand of Hispanic that is also increasingly anti-immigrant, even towards other Mexicans that want to keep American great again that are based Mexicans that don't want to get taken advantage of who came in the legal way and see those other people taking advantage and feel like they got the short end of the stick. So I know many. I agree with you. I know many. When I lived in L.A., I know many of those guys.

I met quite a few of them saying the exact same thing you just said now. Well, it was really funny because the Republicans from like Reagan on, they made this bet that they could import Hispanic labor, but somehow they would convince them to vote Republicans. through like emphasizing free market values or like maybe like saying oh they're catholic they're naturally conservative and it didn't really work and then trump came along and didn't pander at all he's just like hey we're going to make america great if you want to make america great with me you can't i'm not even going to translate in spanish just figure it out and they're like oh great you're treating me like a human being yeah i'll vote for you and it's like you don't need to pander to these people

you just need to present a compelling future for the united states and they'll be along with that like you don't need to treat them like idiots what if you want to be treated like an idiot because of your race you can vote for the democrats who would have thought Yeah. We're going to jump to this story now. From the Hill, Hillary Clinton, the Supreme Court will do to gay marriage what they did to abortion. That might actually have. Fact check true, Hillary Clinton. 2016 Democrat presidential nominee and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says she believes the Supreme Court is poised to overturn its landmark ruling in Obergefell v. Hodge, which effectively legalized same-sex marriage nationwide, and that unmarried same-sex couples ought to consider tying the knot. American voters, and to some extent the American media, don't understand how many years the Republicans have been working in order to get us to this point. Clinton told Fox News host Jessica Tarlov on Friday in a wide-ranging interview on raging moderates.

The podcast Tarlovak co-hosts with Scott Galloway. Neither of those people are moderates. It took 50 years to overturn Roe v. Wade, Clinton said. The Supreme Court will hear a case about gay marriage. My prediction is they will do to gay marriage, what they did to abortion. they will send it back to the states. Look, it did take 50 years to overturn Roe v. Wade. Roe v. Wade was a terribly decided, you know, decision. Even Ruth Bader Ginsburg said that it was a bad decision.

And the Republicans still did it the right way. And this goes to our point earlier about the way that Democrats will exercise power versus the Republicans. Republicans and the libertarians are generally pretty guilty of this as well. they will do the thing that they're supposed to do and go through the process in order to get the result that they want. Fifty years, they worked and worked and worked and worked and worked and worked and worked and finally got it back in front of the SCOTUS when the SCOTUS had the makeup in a way that they would find in favor of putting abortion in the state's hands. They didn't even get them to say abortion must be illegal nationwide. All they did was say, we want it, you put it back in the state's hands. That took them forever because the Republicans will do that.

The Democrats have no compunction with just grabbing power in any means necessary. And I personally think that the Republicans should behave in a similar fashion now. And I understand that you have apprehension, or this is, you know, there's apprehensions that you have and they're legitimate. It's, yeah, it's not exactly apprehensions. It's just understanding, like, cause and effect. Like, I don't want to be blind to the potential backlash that that's going to come here. I think that this is, this is the example that I'm, or the reason I bring this example up is because it doesn't actually, it's not actually a cause and effect. The cause that you're saying isn't what's going to cause Democrat, isn't what's going to make Democrats do this.

Democrats are going to do this because they don't care about process. They don't care about anything other than amassing power and keeping it. It's a fascinating conversation to have because I feel like Democrats would argue the same thing of Republicans. A larger point, I think is... The Democrats argue that men can become women. I agree with you. But there's a very dumb argument that many of them make, and I obviously think they're very wrong. One thing I wanted to point out here, though, is like a reason that this is even a possibility

is because there is a conservative majority on the Supreme Court right now. Why is there a majority on the Supreme Court right now? I know a lot of us might not like to talk about it. because Mitch McConnell actually very skillfully allowed this majority to happen. And one of the big points that Democrats actually harp on about and complain about the Supreme Court being illegitimate on is that they held the seat open that was originally going to go to Merrick Garland during the end of the Obama administration. But instead, he didn't hold a vote on that seat and eventually Trump won the election. And then he filled the seat with Neil Gorsuch, who was able to be confirmed through the Mitch McConnell-led Senate. So all of this is really coming to fruition because of that.

But Democrats, again, would argue that they need to pack the Supreme Court because Mitch McConnell did that, and Neil Gorsuch's appointment was illegitimate because they held that spot open during the end of the Obama term. So all of the, all of that's to say is that, you know, depending on which party you're from, you could point to different things and try to argue that things are legitimate or illegitimate. I also want to say, I think it's a fascinating political strategy by the Trump administration too, about you're overturning these laws, but you're not setting them and you're letting the states decide instead. So they overturned Roe v. Wade, but they didn't decide to make abortion illegal

across the country. And they're going to follow that same blueprint here so it seems with gay marriage. And again, I think attitudes are changing surrounding gay marriage, but more than anything, this is a pushback against the excesses of the LGBTQ community. This is a pushback in regards to drag queen's story hours, to the trans issues. People are just. saying this has gone way too far, and this is ultimately the results, even though I don't think that many people have a problem with gay marriage. I think gay marriage should be a religious institution, but we're far off from that. I know I just said a lot. Do either of you have any thoughts? I mean, I think Obergefell, if you're frustrated with the transgender ideology, if you're

frustrated with the drag queen's story hour, you can't just ratchet back the LGBT movement to an earlier stage and not expect the same result. Because with Obergefell, what happened is in the eyes of the state, gender became interchangeable. Because prior to that, marriage was a man and a woman. Obergible, gay marriage becomes the standard, becomes the view in the government's eyes now that you can swap a male out for a female and it's still a marriage. So the transgender movement started when this happened because that's when in the eyes of the state, gender became interchangeable and it was, you know, men, women, who cares, just hot. I don't know if there's a gay consensus on the trans issue. I'm sure there are many older gays who believe is that the right way to call them sure you're older gay

queer is an identity uh they're just gays older gay men who you know came up um when they were younger and fought for their right to get married and now see the excesses of the left and now they see people become more frustrated with their community might hold resentment towards some of these ultra progressives or ultra gays or who go further in the LGBTQIA well i mean i mean it's great that they their critiques, but if they, if they don't, if they see that as an excess, it's like, well, you only have yourself to blame. Like, you can't, you can't let a little bit in and not expect to get the whole, the whole package. So it's like, you know, if you didn't gatekeep hard enough. Well, it's not, you can't, you can't gatekeep an ideology. It's either you, either you

have it or you don't. Like I said, you can't just ratchet it back to an earlier stage, not expect a similar result. It's like, and then in this case, it only took them 10 years to get to where we're at now. I mean, they just put their foot on the gas. So, I mean, rightfully Americans, even if they haven't thought about the philosophical implications of gender becoming interchangeable in the eyes of the state, still the average American has the right now to be skeptical of anything the LGBT community wants to do because you're saying, well, you guys blew it. You did 15 years and now there's drag queen story hours and transgender nonsense. Kevin, do you have any trans characters in any of your upcoming movies?

None that I'm aware of. If they are, they're pretty damn good at what they're looking at. What other characters are based around that? No, no, not really. I mean, I tend, I'd have no problem with it. Look, almost every movie I've ever been on, Every television show I've worked on, there's been somebody gay or lesbian on the set. I don't care. I personally don't care what people do with their lives in terms of their sexual lives or whatever like that. I think what you mentioned with the religious will, I mean, Barrage comes from the Bible between a man and a woman. That's what it is.

So to me, if you want to appease sort of the religious crowd, just, you know, get married, but call it something else. Call it a union. I don't care. Get the same rights. Get the same tax benefits. I have no problem with that. That's what I mean, just by being a conservative myself and being a Christian and my person. Am I perfect in any of those things?

Not at all. But I get attacked all the time and the internet saying I'm this and that another thing go, where's your proof? Find one gay person. I've been in the business 45 years. I've worked gay people all my for five decades. Find one that says he was so mean to me on this ed.

He was rude. He was an a-hole. I mean, he won't find one. But they love their labels. They love their attack. They love just go after and they have nothing. No proof behind it whatsoever. I could care less.

But once again, just, you know, it's just constant. the power the Elthwood crowd has to sit there and force all the step down saying this is normal now, this is normal now. You know, do what you want to do, but don't sit there and try to change the definition of things. I mean, we used to call

somebody that is, you know, that has changed their sex. We used to say, well, it was mental illness. Now we're supposed to just accept that as normal. It isn't normal. Do you believe that the overturning of Obergefell would be an excessive backlash from conservatives?

I don't know. I mean, to me, you're looking at this. I look at Chuck Schumer. I got to say this for a second because I got a big kick out. I'm saying we've got to make these 20 million. I don't know how many millions came across. I heard 10 million, 15, and 20 million came across during Biden's term. So you hear all the stuff, we have to make them all legal right now because we got to

replenish our workforce. And I said, well, you got rid of the workforce with Rovi Wade. You killed 65 million human lives. I do a lot of pro-life speaking. It's a human life. There's a heartbeat of 22 days. So that's 65 million. How many more millions would have been born out of those people born in the 70s, 80s, and 90s?

We've probably got rid of 100 million people in this country. 25% of Gen Z, not to get sight of, but 25% of Gen Z was aborted. I mean, that's your labor crisis right there. It's unbelievable what they've done. And these would have been educated people coming in the country, not people that were coming from poor countries with worst education we got coming in here. They're not going to be the ones filling up the workforce in a positive way with engineers and everything like that. And we're changing faces countries so quickly right now. There's just clearly, like you said, there's a, it's a border, it fuels anti-human what's

happening, this restructuring of our country at every level from our culture to our institutions to everything. And like, I mean, that's kind of the same thing what we're talking about here is like the Obergefell was a shot fired by these anti-human people because they want to get the government to redefine what gender is. That was the idea is they want men and women. to be interchangeable and means nothing, because that's the point of liberalism. Liberalism is blank slate theory, and what is more restrictive than having a gender?

Because that defines a lot of your characterist. So this is actually something that I've actually had a disagreeing with Marian. I don't think that gender is even a real thing, right? Like your biological sex is so... Yeah. But it matters. It matters. Because when you ask someone, what is gender?

It's essentially the way that they describe it, it's your sexual. spirit, right? And so, and the reason that I, like I said, Mary and I have a disagreement because she believes that human beings have a spirit, have a soul, and that the soul is gendered. I, as an agnostic, don't really have that same sense. And I think that your sex, your biological sex is the only thing that matters. Your gender doesn't matter. And as long as your, if your biological sex is the deciding factor, then all this gender nonsense, nonsense can be disregarded and oh well you know it's it's fine because their gender is interchangeable or gender can be changed that is all just an innovation is in the past whatever 50 60 years and if we were if we had a

government that said no your sex is what's important and we don't even address gender then you can actually get around all the stuff that you're talking about because you have you have a great point you're you're totally right the way that the LGBTIQIA groups have made people, or convinced people to understand this innovation called gender, is that it is something that isn't actually tied to your body. It's not tied to your biology, and that's wrong. There are anomalies. There are people that are less masculine and more masculine, that are men, and there are women

that are more masculine and less masculine, but by and large, men are far more masculine than women. Women have certain traits that generally apply to their, to women and men have certain traits that generally apply to men. And it's, it's, it's, it is enough where you can safely say, this is how men are. This is how women are. And of course, there's some anomalies. But without that, that, that the idea of gender, without the innovation of gender, you actually circumvent the Well, I mean, I think gender is one-to-one with sex. I mean, broadly speaking, it directly correlates. But I mean, obviously, if you're agnostic, then I think at that point you should just view them in like synonyms effectively. Or just like you said, disregard gender entirely. I could have said sex for my entire rant and my point would have been the same. But when you talk to the, the, when you talk to the crits, right, the gender crits, the critical gender theorists, you take away the whole foundation of all of their theory. when you don't acknowledge gender. Yeah, I mean, like...

And I understand what you're saying, but they don't look at it the same way you do. They look at gender as different. They think gender, they think that gender changes. That's why you get people that say, well, you know, right now my gender feels this way, but in two hours after I have a meal, my gender might be different, you know, the...

Sure. And that comes from the idea... That comes from the idea that gender is something that is more akin to a spirit than something that is tied to your biology. And we should... we should abandon that idea. I mean, that's totally fair.

I mean, like, for my entire rant I had earlier, I could have just said sex instead, and it would have been the exact same point I'm trying to make. All I'm trying to say is if you have frustration with the drag queens with the transgenders, this has to go. Abergefell has to go. And you need the state to reorient around men and women as separate entities and respect those differences instead of just trying to turn us into blank slates.

Kevin, I wanted to ask, there's a narrative that Hollywood advances a lot of the so-called LGBTQI, agenda as someone who's in the space you know can you confirm or deny how true that is or you know are these just groups of people working together have you heard that stuff what do you make of it you know this really just this this this is new to me over the last like 10 years maybe or something like that Hollywood booted me out I'm the first canceled culture victim before it became a term manager and agent said because of things you're posting on the internet about COVID and I was posting the truth of course I got I got blacklisted from Hollywood that's why my wife

my former Sorble Studios. We're doing our own movies, independent movies. And I do movies that Hollywood used to do. They're not necessarily faith-based. I think every movie's of faith-based. If you're an atheist, that's a pretty strong faith. To believe in absolutely nothing is a really strong faith. So to me, it's like, I want to do movies that have hope and love and redemption in it.

It doesn't have to be you better believe in God. I just want to do nice movies that Hollywood used to do instead of the woke insanity. They're doing, I mean, I think over a billion dollars is what Disney's looking at this year as a loss. so to me I never I was well aware of I mean it's the conservatives that are in the closet now the gays are fully out of the closet in Hollywood feels like conservatives are out of the closet too nowadays

well not in Hollywood you'd be surprised I mean every movie I've been doing the last six seven years I'll get another actor I'll get a I'll get a hair person a director a film light guy come up to me quietly like we're doing a drug deal and say hey thanks for being a voice for us and I go be a voice for yourself well I'll get blacklisted like you. And it has hurt people's careers. I know a number of big name actors

that are conservative. I'm not going to name them because they said, well, I don't want to happen to me what happened to you. But I said, look, I'm still making movies. Hollywood doesn't call me anymore. I've always found it childish. Who cares? I don't get anger if someone's gay. I don't get angry if someone's a liberal. I don't. Be what you want to be. But they have the power in Hollywood. So they do no longer let me read for any movies or any TV shows. I got to find my own independent projects. And to me, they're like seventh grade mean girls. It's so immature and so childish that they don't work with me just because I happen to be a conservative. It's weird to me. But the parties have shifted. I tell my liberal friends, look at JFK's inauguration speech in 1916,

find one Democrat who talks that way today. You won't find it. Even as recently as Bill Clinton, I feel like you would be a conservative nowadays. Look, the second time around, I voted for Clinton the second time around. I didn't the first time around. I mean, it was the lowest, anybody's ever won a percentage, right? 38% or something. Perrault was involved. Because Ross was in there, yeah. But I thought, you know what?

Guy did a good job. And I voted for him. I wouldn't vote for Hillary. That was like, jeez, on the devil's lap, he's laughing. I mean, he was even the 2008 Democrat nomination where they were accusing each other of being pro-gay marriage, which was, which is hilarious. I mean, that just shows you how quickly this evolved specifically, but how quickly Democrats radicalize within 15, 20 years.

I mean, Republicans, there's all these, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, They showed these, like, graphs where it's like, look at the polarization. The Democrats went this way, and the Republicans went this way. And I'm like, the Republicans are just tracking back to how they were in the 90s. I mean, the average Republican, if you see how an average Republican would have all shifted to the left. Exactly. Yeah, the average Republican in 1992.

I mean, Pat Buchanan was a formidable candidate and presidential elections. And he was fantastic, and he outflanks every Republican to the right right now. And this is supposed to the most radical Republican Party in history. It's like, well, in 1992, I mean, look at, look at. Yeah, like Pat Bekin, who's a genius, by the way. Yeah, the idea that the Republican Party right now is the most radical ever is absolutely ridiculous. If you look at the way that Republicans or the way that anyone talked prior to World War II, that just, I mean, essentially it would make today's Democrats and a lot of today's Republicans just, you know, shiver and fear and say, you can't say that, you can't say that, you can't say that. Things like talking about race the way that they used to talk about race, like absolutely not.

but we're going to jump to this story right now from the post-millennial Eric Adams slammed Zohran Mamdani over socialists push for legalized prostitution Mayor Eric Adams has slammed socialist candidate for New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani as the candidate has pushed to

decriminalized prostitution There is a difference between decriminalize and legalize and I'm not sure which one they're talking about because decriminalize is just not effectively legalized you can get a business license Well yeah but also that it starts to involve the courts. I'm sorry, involve the government. It's not, it wouldn't be you can get like

they would require a license. Right. It's regulated. It's on the books. Decriminalize just means you won't go to jail. Making it legalized allows it to be legally commercial and have the full power of legal markets and legal capitalism behind it as opposed to decriminalization where it'll still not be regulated, have their markets. And I imagine that Zohran would not want it legalize that he would want to decriminalize because I imagine that he is not interested in making it something that capitalism can exploit for however he would would you know presume to be anyways um I can't be more clear I'm a man of God just as Mamdani says he's a Muslim I don't know where in his Quran it states that it's okay for a woman to be on the street selling their body

Adam told reporters I don't know what Quran he's reading it's not my Bible he added as a man who said he is of faith. I don't quite understand what religion supports prostitution. Mamdani, who claims to be a believing Muslim, has taken up the issue on multiple occasions since he ran for New York City Assembly in 2020, according to the New York Post. Prostitution is also very much against the tenets of Islam. I think he's lost faith in the fact that sex trafficking is very much a part of prostitution, Adams added in his comments. We are trying to bring down crime and he's talking about legalizing sex work. You're not doing any service to a woman who's on the street who is forced to sell her body for whatever reason, he added, no one should be on our streets selling their bodies, no one.

Mamdani, aside from other left-wing policy, he has proposed during his campaign, such as freezing rents, government-run grocery stores, and raising the minimum wage to $30 an hour, has co-sponsored legislation in the New York Assembly that would legalize prostitution across the city. If that is his belief, it is a danger for our city, Adam said in his comments. city needs to be a safe city. It should not be a city where women are standing on corners or boys are standing on corners or young men standing on corners selling their bodies. Look, man, the idea that Zoran Mamdani would not turn New York City of today into New York City of 1979 through 85, I think that idea has sailed. And I think that if you institute Zoran's policies or the policies that he's talked about, I think that that's, inevitable. I mean, doesn't that seem

to be the case? Yeah. I mean, you go back to those decades that time, it was pretty scary. New York City was not a good place we walk around. I love the fact that some people say they miss that time. They miss the seediness of the city that way. It was so real back then.

It was so real. A danger was excellent. But look where they're out right now. I mean, look what's happening in that city right now. And look at the number of people left. I mean, I escaped California seven years ago. I live in this free state of Florida. And the number of, when COVID hit, the number of people that came down from Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, and Jersey just flooded new, flooded it. And really, when I first got there, this

is interesting about Florida. I know segueing a little bit here, but Florida was, what used to be a swing state, right? It ain't anymore. When I got there, I think there was 300,000 more Democrats registered seven years ago. Now it's like 800,000 more Republicans registered. It's no longer a swing state. Yeah. What I believe was extremely effective in this Eric Adams attack is that I don't know if he did it purposefully or not, but he took a note out of Saul Olenski's rules for radicals. There's a far leftist who made a political strategy book, but one of the specific things he's using here is make them live by their own rules. Expose the hypocrisy and inconsistencies in the opponent's stated principles and actions. And prostitution is not consistent with the beliefs in Islam.

I don't think this is the only inconsistency that exists. within his policy proposals, but I think that's what will make this such an effective, potent attack. And I think Mayor Adams should continue attacking Mamdani in this fashion. However, ultimately, I don't think this would lead him to be successful in the race. He's polling at half of what Andrew Cuomo's polling at. He's polling around nearly what the Republican candidate, Curtis Sliwa, who should also probably drop out and we'll see if President Trump decides to get involved one way or another in the race to ultimately, if these guys ultimately want to stop Mamdani, they will need to put their egos aside.

I know I'm asking a lot of a politician there to put their egos aside because I ultimately doubt either will because, again, all these guys have extremely huge egos. One other tidbit I wanted to say here is that if we do get to the point where prostitution is legalized, it would be such an unfortunate state of the market for the women in our country. If we make the most lucrative thing in our country that a woman could do be prostitution, if a woman has no skills, a young 18, 19, 20, 20, 3. whatever, and the most lucrative thing that a young woman like this can do

is go into prostitution. I don't want to make the incentive structure such that for young women to highly incentivize them to do so. And by legalizing prostitution, that's what we would effectively be doing in our country. I don't know that... And there's a huge moral hazard to that. I don't know that it would be actually the most lucrative thing

that they can do. I mean... Like a young unskilled woman? Only fans is like instant millionaire. No, it's not. The average... For a lot of these women? No, no, no, hold on. The average only fans girl makes like a hundred and fifty dollars there are exceptions but they average like a hundred and fifty dollars

month and then when you think if you're talking about streetwalkers they're not making a lot of money they're not I think it's like New Zealand the Netherlands they actually do make quite a bit of money that's not streetwalkers those are that's what happens when prostitution becomes regulated and no so barothels

massage parlors escorts It's a much more lucrative job for most unskilled women compared to what they would do otherwise. And if that's what the fact of the matter is, then we're setting up young women to be taking advantage of. And if we want to prevent a whole generation of young women getting involved in this work for the money... Look, I could be wrong, but I don't think that it's actually that lucrative for the average woman. Not the average. Compared to what... An unskilled woman.

Versus like a fry cook or something? Probably, yeah. I mean, if you're a cashier or your, you know, like, there's a lot of unskilled labor. If you're a cashier and you're attractive, but like the idea that you can be a cash, like an unattractive woman is not going to be pulling in a lot of money. Like I, and again, I don't, I don't know if I want to get into the market and the numbers. I suspect women in massage parlors can make a lot more money being prostitutes than giving massages. Like I know that they're, you're reading in between the law. lines?

Yes. New York City is already to a degree decriminalized prostitution because the rub and tugs, the women are not prosecuted. They only prosecute the pimps and the owners. Most of those women are trafficked, aren't they? They tend to be... They're often, yeah, they're often foreign, they're often trafficked, but they don't prosecute the women anymore, you know, whatever.

I don't, I've never looked into if that actually helps crack down or if that helps improve the standards. I doubt it. I doubt that actually improves anyone's lives. you should probably just decriminalize the, or sorry, you should probably criminalize every aspect of prostitution. They're everywhere in Queens, especially. I mean, it gets bad.

I'm not, you know, an expert on the locations, but it's, it's, there's kind of running jokes, like, I think it's what Northern Avenue in Queens is like just this, you know, open air, like prostitution. I mean, it looks like Amsterdam. Like, it's crazy. It's very prevalent. And no, it's just like a lot of saying is like, just in general, having prostitution being lucrative to.

any degree is just such a tragic reflection on your society. And I think the last thing you want to do is, like, enfranchise that in any way, any meaningful way. I just don't imagine that, you know, the making prostitution legal makes it lucrative. I feel like it is the kind of thing that, I feel like it's the kind of thing that, like, you go into only if you have to. Because there's not, there's not a lot of money. It's dangerous. Even if there's, even if they decriminalize it and they can actually go. to the police. Maybe I'm tripping, but I think strippers

make a ton of money. I mean, strippers, strippers are different than prostitutes. You know, I think they're very vaguely the same and at least in a religious worldview. No, and I think they put out too. I don't know. I don't visit strip clubs. They don't. I think they I would think that they do in some places. I don't know. I don't know. I've been to a lot strip clubs and they, they, I'm 50 years old, bro. And you're a rock star. I've been in, I was a rock star. I was a rock star. So, I mean, they that is not something that happens regularly.

I mean, I think it's just... Could you imagine the tech marrying legal prostitution, too? Like, if you can Uber a prostitute? The way technology will evolve with this industry, if it becomes legalized, will be disgusting and horrible. And worse than I can imagine. Like, they've done this thing where they just don't let you as a society, they don't let you criminalize behaviors that are corrosive to the human spirit.

Like, they call it a victimless crime. It's like, I don't know. need a victim involved to just want to disincentify something that's bad for people. Like, I'm so tired of this live and let live liberal attitude. It's like, no, if something is bad for a human being, you can justify banning it. Your society should be a reflection of good characteristics. And America was that for a long time. You're telling me there are things that you can do in the bedroom that affect society that are bad? Yes, absolutely. Yes, 100%. Yes, There's a doggy style. Like doggy style, right? That's bad for just society. I mean, I'm a bit of

It's dehumanizing. But every, yeah, every personal decision. Society is just a culmination of personal decisions. It's all it is. That's all it is. Yeah, I mean, so, look, I'm completely, you know, I don't think that decriminalizing or legalizing prostitution in New York City or anywhere else is going to be, is going to produce positive results.

It is typical of, stop it, it is typical of the, of the left to say, you know to desire these kind of things you know i love the islam standard he's holding him to he's like come on is that kosher in the koran i mean is that is that halal it's not halal it's not halal it's it's not kosher in the hadith you're advocating actually it's not haram shit it's not kosher in the mayoral as the mayoral as the democratic mayoral candidate it's called muta right the arabic it is halal yeah it's it's in the uh it's in the hadith the arabic dictionaries define muta as enjoyment, pleasure, delight, the root form signifies to carry away to take away a marriage of muta as a marriage, which the contract stipulates will last for a fixed period of time.

This marriage of muta is referred to both in the Hadith literature and in much more detail in the books of jurisprudence. In the Hadith and in other sayings related to early Muslims, the word muta itself usually employed, the Shia hold that this particular term is the preferred name for temporary marriage, the Quran itself refers to the kind of marriage employing a term derived from the Muslims called prostitution temporary marriage in the following verse of the word is the tenth verbal form of the root mutt and is translated as in joy so they're in the hadith allegedly it condones this kind of behavior it it calls it a

temporary marriage and so maybe that's where Zohran Mamdani is I knew they did sex slaves in Islam but I didn't know it was halal to do prostitution, allegedly. I don't want to have to read into the Quran more than we already have. Yes. Maybe we could. Again, that's the Hadith, not the Quran. I mean, I don't know the difference, frankly. Also, like, another side problem with prostitution is it directly leads to human trafficking, because what you're doing is you're putting a price tag on consent. And once you've done that, then trafficking is the next logical step. And so, I mean, if you're, if you're against trafficking, and then you should probably be against prostitution, because it's not good to be putting a

price tag on consent because consent doesn't have a price tag. It's a mechanism, not a, item for sale. Fair. Fair enough. So let's see. I think we covered this about as much as we're going to cover it. What did search have pulled up?

What did search out? What was that? Drama stuff that we'll talk about in the after show. Ashley St. Clair. So, but we're going to jump to this one here from CBS News. Yosemite Park Ranger who hung trans pride flag from

El Capitin says they were fired. Three months after a group of climbers hung a transgender pride flag from El Capitan, an iconic rock formation in Yosemite. The National Park Service fired a park ranger who was involved in the display, the former employee said. Shannon S.J. Jocelyn was terminated last week after working for nearly five years as a ranger and wildlife biologist at the Northern California National Park. Jocelyn wrote in a social media post Monday that has since garnered widespread attention online. In May, I hung a trans flag on El Capitan that set up.

celebrated my acceptance of my identity. Jocelyn captioned the post. I hung the flag in my free time, off duty as a private citizen. It flew for a total of two hours in the morning. Then I took it down. Jocelyn referred to their ranger position as a dream job. They were fired by a park official

for failing to demonstrate acceptable conduct in their role as a Yosemite wildlife biologist, according to the social media post, which accuses the National Park Service of violating their constitutional rights to free expression. preservation has been my life's work of yosemite the wildlife the land recreation of people's rights and safety of community and acceptance and now the constitutional first amendment jocelyn wrote adding i want my rights and i want my career back do you guys think that had this been a gigantic cross with jesus on it that this would have the same reaction or do you think that people on the left would take issue with that they would take a huge issue with the cross

are you kidding me I mean we this country's father than the Judeo-Christian values so to speak but we've changed quite a bit over the over the centuries and it's weird to me look we can go to classrooms now they hang the pride flag they don't even put what does pride get a month I gotta just ask that question

we give we have mothers day one day we give her vets one day but pride gets a month not a month the LGBT have a day fine but the LGBTQ lobby doesn't just get the month they get over a hundred days throughout the year because there's pride month and then there's all sorts of national this that or the other thing day that fall throughout the rest of

the year so it's not just it goes on and on and on it's like there's enough already fine get a day fine have them let them have a day but this is just i don't know it's just it's just it's just weird to me and then they took the rainbow yeah sorry but that's biblical but anything to digrated is it's intentional of course it's of course it's Yeah. So, I mean, personally, I don't... Look at a pride parade. I mean, hello. That's usually just a parade of people being... Celebration of sex, yeah.

Yeah. It's just degeneracy. Because you never see, or very rarely, is it not loaded with either half or fully naked adults? Oh, they perform sexual acts. I've seen the photos and videos people have sent. I'm going, you've got to be kidding me. And look, there's something that is wrong with making sex your... identity, right? Like your whole, when it comes to people in the LGBTQ lobby or whatever, their entire identity, their whole personality is wrapped around who they do, who they want to have sex with. And that's the entire person.

It becomes all consuming. There's this impulse on the left to center people on the margins. And the LGBTQ ideologies are always on the. margins and so they want to be centered they want to be focused on and this is something i've said a lot but we need to reject the idea of centering the margins you don't want to center the margins you want to focus on the normal people and yes i'm going to use the phrase normal you want to focus on the normal people that have normal marriages man and a wife and that have one to have a normal family because that's what will carry on the society that you live in yeah if you have people that are that have

alternative lifestyles. You can have a society that makes room for them, but the idea that they should be celebrated is actually a terrible idea because it takes the focus off of the normal family, which again is what will continue your society. If you care about, just if you're making an economic argument, if you care about a tax base, then you need to have your next generation be as big or bigger than the one that you're in. And we have, we are, we have fallen so far behind We're in the negative growth. Yeah, I mean, it's looking like I think Tim was saying the other day that it's something like Gen Alpha has to have four kids to have enough children to carry on society. Has that why he's been out recently?

I will take, I wouldn't even venture a guess personally. But, I mean, you know, it used to be you have to have 2.1. That's what the boomers needed. And they fell short. The millennials have fallen short. and because they're falling short and because like you said it's happening all around the world it is it is um

but like you said earlier Muslims aren't they have five wives and five kids with each of them so they're growing they're growing astronomically because like you said earlier the abortion issue is a real issue because that's 25 million people that never existed you know and so these things

compound and we're going to have a massive problem because it's not just going to be oh there aren't people around it means that there's not going to be people that can do the things that our society needs done to keep our society going. There's not going to be the girls. There's going to be 25% less women that Tate could have dated.

So now his potential girlfriend of Gen Z doesn't exist. He has 25% less friends. It's real. Less dating potential on the dating market. Just like with stuff like this, I think you should just be inherently skeptical of anything that's promoting something that kills your bloodline. abortion like homosexual parades or whatever it's like look tolerance is one thing but like celebration of something that's actually kind of tragic i just don't see this as beneficial for americans in any way

because we already have such a culture of nihilism especially with zoomers that by just re-emphasizing and re-centering human behavior that kills your bloodline that extinguishes your your family lineage i mean that's not i mean it's a very sad thing and i mean especially see with abortion. I mean, it's just nonstop promotion of it. And it's like, how is this beneficial to re-center something so anti-human, anti-birth and anti-natal, I guess is the word to use? I think the best, humanity's best chance of overcoming this birth rate deficit. Well, it actually depends on where you look at, because they don't have birth deficits in India or Nigeria. They do in India now. Now they do, really, in India? It's getting to the point where the third world is now

cratering in birth rate. If we want to, I think if we want to reverse. this issue particularly in the West, the key to doing so is going back to religiosity. If you're looking for the groups of people in our country right now that are still reproducing at over-replacement rates, it's our people who are religions. It's random Amish communities throughout the country. It's Orthodox Jewish communities. These communities have like six, seven, eight, nine kids. All of the women do. And religiosity trends towards having more children. As we get more secular, we have less. So I think that's the major trend. Doesn't that require belief? It does. Because part of the reason why society, you know, modern secular society doesn't have the same type of faith is because science has actually answered a lot of things that were not answered before. And if you couldn't answer the questions, people would say, well, you know, maybe it's God or we don't understand. Not to say that there is no room for God in a, you know, in a secular or in a modern society. But that is going to inevitably make people say, well,

may if we can actually figure these things out maybe god isn't real you know we can we we we nobody thinks oh lightning is god anymore nobody thinks that that the the sun coming up and going down is because god is because god wills it don't do it um the point that i'm making is with a modern society like we have a lot of those questions are answered and so i do think that that the lack of religion leaves a god basically a god shaped hole in people's in people's people's lives. But I also think that people are reluctant to, to fill it with religion because they feel like, well, that's, that's, that's, that's, you know, the questions have been answered. Science has answered that. And so I think that that's a significant, you know,

a significant reason as to, to why. And I'd be interested in what you guys think of that. Interesting. I did a documentary that's coming out. It's called a, It's called Against the World. And I did it with John Lennox. John Lennox is a very famous. John Lennox is amazing. He's an apologist, retired math professor from Oxford University.

We shot three weeks in Oxford, two weeks in Israel. And it's called against the world. It's about proving God in a world of science. And I call it apologetics for dummies like me because he guys just, he's amazing and he's brilliant. And I think anybody and everybody should watch us. You don't have to be a person of faith to watch us

just to listen to what he has to say. And you'll see clips of him debating singer in Dawkins and Hitchens, really world famous apotheist. And he kills him with kindness is what he kills with more than the other than else. And it's just pretty fantastic. I don't people check it out. It's coming out later this year and it's called Against the World. And it's, you know, I look at the stars at night and I go, well, somebody made this and it wasn't me.

You know, and that's where I believe there's a god. There's an intelligent design behind this because I can look at this desk right here and they go, what do you think this came from? somebody made it. I go, well, exactly. I don't have all the answers either, but if I look at infinity that it just goes forever and there's billions of galaxies out there or something, it's pretty mind-boggling to think that it just happened. I don't have all the answers, but to me, I believe there was, there's a higher power that created it all life. Yeah. Yeah, I totally agree. John Lettick's is brilliant. Richard Dawkins' debate. That's like

the biggest one. It's phenomenal. It's phenomenal. Philosophical beat down John Lennox is the goat. I do think to a certain degree it is kind of sad that the only if the only way to increase the birth rate would be like a return to like Ludditism like the Amish like I do hope that we're able to create an environment where technology can still progress while simultaneously keeping the birth rate above above the water I had Nate Fisher he was a guest on my aunt I covered for the morning show about a week and a half ago and we had Nate Fisher on who's a pro AI a lot would hate him he's super pro-AI. And he actually proposed this interesting, he had an interesting proposal for the

future, which is clearly the one common denominator with countries that are experiencing birth rate deficiencies is women's workplace participation. When women are in the workplace, they're working the same hours as men, they just simply do not have time for childbirth. And if you're in a developed country, having a child is a economic negative. It's just a bad decision to make if you're trying to make money. That's just the way it is. I hate that as a Christian, but it is what it is. And his proposal was that as AI evolves, it can knock out a lot of these laptop jobs, these fake email jobs, and typically these jobs are manned by women because they're less physically intensive.

And so when AI comes in and replaces these jobs, along with, you know, preventing the need for extra migrant labor, is that could actually return us back to a more pre-postmodern, um, civilizational structure where women are able to stay at home and the man is able to make enough money to support the family on a single income because these companies, will have more, they won't require as much labor to perform the same. Do you think that it's economically based, honestly, or is that the... I suspect, I mean, I do think religiosity is to a certain extent. I mean, because, for example, Israel is a developed country where women are in the workforce

and they do have a net positive birth rate, but that's kind of a separate... Isn't that because of the orthodox that are super... Even among, like, conservative Jews, like, they still have a positive birth rate, and I suspect that's because they have a mission as a society. And again, I don't think it's sustainable. I don't think every country can have a mission as a society. Like, regardless of the United States and Canada and the UK are not going to have existential threats at all times. And so wouldn't that need a, wouldn't it need the same kind of like we need to keep our people like an like an ethno nationalism to keep to inspire people to say I need to make sure that because that's one of the things that the Israelis have, right?

So I agree, but you have ethno states around the world. effective ethno states and they're the worst off like Japan South Korea China I mean China is an explicitly Han state that is the purpose is to expel and expunge the entire land of other ethnic minorities and create this Han ethno state and they can't keep their birth rate above water so it's like I don't think that's enough and if anything it actually makes it worse with the track record that we see in East Asia well they're in they're in trouble in China because they've had over 450 forced abortions most of them female their population is 55

percent male, which a lot of people don't realize. Which, like, historically, that means civil war or some kind of, some kind of adventure. China's a little overrated as far as, like, a looming superpower. They actually have far more systemic issues in the United States has. But yeah, so I mean, like, yeah, I do agree, like, religiosity. I mean, again, as a Christian, I've an incentive to, for that to be the case. And it certainly helps. Like, evangelicals have the exact same economic pressures as the rest of the country. But evangelicals do have a high. birth rate. Granted, it's still below replacement. I think it's about 1.8, 1.9. But that's far higher than the American average, which is like 1.6. And, you know, even white evangelicals is still that number. And white people in the country, it's like 1.4. So, but really, Jesse doesn't fix it at all. Like, you do need to restructure how families are able to form and what your civilization prioritizes in a family unit. Do you think that there would ever come a point where the government would outlaw things like birth control or outlaw?

outlaw abortion so that way the population can actually reproduce because it's my I think that sign that the the the the pill and abortion are the two biggest things as to why there are why we don't have a replacement rate because it used to be where you know if you know a girl got pregnant the guy would marry her right and that was that was just what happened you got a girl pregnant well not your wife now you go the shotgun wedding and everything. And that's something that was kind of like that was the way that it was throughout a lot of history. And when that stopped being the case, you know, when when you no longer had the shotgun wedding, when you know, when you had abortion as, you know, available for, for anyone and you have

the birth control pill to prevent pregnancy, that's when you saw the real beginning of the decline in the, in the replacement rate. Well, I think, I think through education, through probably education through universities through movies that hollywood does television i think that we that people get married much later now i think people stay pretty much children still through their 20s now they don't they're not ready to grow up and so you're looking at the average age you get married is much higher than it was just you know two generations ago it's changed drastically and they don't want to have they want to just maybe have a kid they have it much later when they're in their 30s or even in the 40s if they are able to but i mean it's it's changed and i think just that many

mentality towards marriage and having kids has been sort of there's been an indoctrination through, I think, the mainstream media and through Hollywood and what Hollywood does. Well, and it also came with the territory of modernization and with eliminating infant mortality is we're, in the last 60 years, this is the first time in human history where people have kids because they want kids versus having kids because they need kids. Because prior to, let's just say, the world wars, people needed kids because they needed farming. We were agriculturally based.

It's true. I mean, I look at both my grandparents. I came over here, both sets came over from Norway, and they had my grandparents were part. They were part of 10 or 11 kids in each family. They had to work the farms. It was all about working the farms. And even then, like, and then beyond that, even people that were urban, highly urbanized people, because they did exist prior to the World Wars, is they even felt they needed kids for that religious reason and also like to pass on family heirlooms, pass on wealth, guarantee that wealth stayed within like a, controlled environment. So now people just have kids as like, oh, I'd like I have a kid. Like the same reason people

have it. I hate to equivalize it, but it's the same reason people get a dog. It's like, oh, it'd be nice to have a dog around. That's what people do. It's like, oh, it'd be nice to have a kid around. People don't really have this like, I think they do, but they're just ignoring it. I do think a lot of people actually have this deep desire to extend their bloodline to have a child. But I think a lot of people are able to backfill that with dogs or consumer products. I think women do, particularly when they get close to 30. Oh, yeah, that was Jordan Peterson actually. He said when he was practicing clinical psychologist. He said the toughest case. I mean, he had people like veterans coming in that had seen their brothers die, you know, children that have been beat. Like the worst

things you could possibly imagine. He said the most difficult cases he had to handle were postmenopausal women that never had children. All right. We're going to go ahead and jump to super chat. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Head on over to rumble.com and become a member so you can join us for the after show. and head on over to timcast.com so you can join the Discord and call into the show. You can talk to our guest, you can ask the panel questions, but you can only do that if you're a member of Rumble so you can watch the aftershow or you're a member of Timcast.com, the Discord, so that way you can get in there and make the phone calls. But right now, we are going to go to your super chats.

Hold up here. I'm going to make this a little bit bigger. what are you doing okay soy soyge uh Ron Quay

MTV says Phil you need to start wearing a beanie already well you don't like the the brim of my hat no this is this is my jam man dude earlier I saw you sitting in that seat without the hat

and I thought you were Tim without the beanie no I mean I swear to God I thought it was the same bald head no Tim and I look different. All you bald people look alike. They're all just a bunch of thumbs.

That's it. All these in black shirts. That's right. Let's see. K.S. Corey says, it would be nice to see all the stuff about our history that the Smithsonian has been hiding for 100 years, like giants.

Real Nephilim. Release the Nephilim files. Enough about Epstein, released the Nephilim files. We know that we found them in Afghanistan. You know, we heard we brought him over in our big helicoke. Like, let's see them. I know they're out there. I don't buy it. And we could put him in the NBA possibly. I'm not buying it. Memphis Grizzlies need

another center, and Zach E.D. is not enough. We need more. So maybe we need a nephalm. I don't know. I'm just spitballing here. A.K. Storm 49 says Tate. Sir. You were trashing Alaska while talking about the Putin-Trump meeting. Ask Tim how gorgeous Anchorage was while he was there. Plus, they meet at J-B-E-R, which is gorgeous and

busy. I just, look, Anchorage is Alaska's beautiful. They should have met in, like, Juneau. Have you been to Alaska? Yeah, I have. I've been to Alaska. And I think Juno is one of the most beautiful cities in the United States.

That's why I just felt like putting him on an Air Force base in Anchorage. I think Alaska is more to offer. That's what I was trying to get at. And you also have to understand, like, I'm so terrified on the morning show. Sometimes I don't express enough thought that I don't flesh out my thoughts enough sometimes. And this was definitely one case. I love Alaska. I feel very sad that people think I hate Alaska.

I'm sorry. I love Alaska. You did fight it. Don't tell him you're... Walking it back, huh? Yeah, I got to... Walking it back. I'm walking it back.

A couple years, I got to be the celebrity started for the Iditarod. Oh, nice. It was awesome. The what? The what? It's a thousand-mile dog sled race they have through Alaska. We've been doing it for 100 years or something. So they hooked up my own sled to another guy's sled and his pack of 12 dog.

So I said, for the first 12 miles, it was me. And he said, whatever I do with my body, you do the same thing. If I work my butt all the way down this side, you better go because you'll flip over in your sled. It was awesome. It was awesome. It was so cool. That's a beautiful thing.

It's a beautiful thing. Let's see. Black Nexus says, I loved Hercules and even more so Andromeda. Thanks for being an inspiration on and off the screen, Mr. Sorbo. Oh, very kind. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. I got more to come.

Sorbos Studios.com. Go there. I got four movies coming out this year. And three documentaries. One is that one. One is on The Last Supper. Oh, that's called Eating with the Enemy. Oh.

Pretty interesting. Brent Miller's company, Ingenuity Films, a very good company. Let's go. Awesome. Bert Crash says, I hope Tim's voice turns into the gravely Alex Jones time when he comes back

and starts railing about Alad being his handler and that he can't handle it anymore. Inshallah. I don't know that he's going to have that kind of gravelly Alex Jones thing or not, but I talked to him a little bit today and he's still pretty beat up. It's kind of rough, so I'm not sure.

I thought he was going to be back today. I thought so, too. A lot of us thought that he was going to be back. But I wouldn't be surprised if he's not back tomorrow. We did the pre-show. At least we got a little bit of it anymore, which is good. And, yeah, if I am on the morning show tomorrow, it will be a 30-minute apology to the state of Alaska.

Directed title to Sarah Palin, most of all. Never say your son. There will be a nice dog sledding compilation. Never apologize. They'll look at it like. I'll use Mr. Sorvo's videos. It'll be a beautiful thing. Happy Garand says, 29 years old,

and I just bought my first house, ordered some Casperu to celebrate. Congratulations. Let's hear that. That's great to hear that there are some people in their 20s that can afford a home. Define the odds. Yeah, you know.

Great work, King. Good job. All right, let's see. Waffle Sensei says, Kevin, how was it working with Mercer in the Mythica series? And do you think Hollywood could succeed doing that for classic style of filmmaking? Yeah, if they had the budget for that,

we did. It was five movies. of a part of the poor man's sort of, what am I thinking of? Poor man's version of Lord of the Rings. But it was cool. We shot in the mountains in Provo, Utah, and it was pretty cool.

I played sort of the Gandalf-type character in it, but it was good. I think that idea would be great if you get a bigger budget with it. They did a great job. They did a great job putting it together, and you can get the five-part, it's five movies, you can get it on one DVD section. It's pretty cool.

DVDs are dying, but it's out there. Hey. It's out there. Still a big market. I still have them. I still have them. Yeah. All right, let's see.

Tireant God says, happy to see Hercules back on the show, grew up watching the legendary journey, and as a kid it showed me a good man stands up for what is right. P.S., my username is inspired by Hercules and God of War. That's awesome. I did the voice of God of War and Three. It's so funny,

there's a thing called Gen Con in Indianapolis. I still do about five or six Comic-Conn's here because of Hercules and Andromeda, but I was in Prague last year in one of them. It's pretty cool. That's cool. And so Jen Conn's in Indianapolis. Indianapolis, I must have signed 500 of these god of war threes. And every guy came up and said, dude, you're awesomeness.

I'm sorry I had to kill you, but it was really cool. It is cool. My band was in a video game called Guitar Hero 2, and kids would come up with the controller, there's guitar stuff, and we'd have sign it. So it's super flattering when people bring that kind of stuff up, and they're just like, you know, so that's awesome to hear. Let's see. Metho 671 says, in Afghanistan, we had them dip,

their thumb in long-lasting ink when they voted so they couldn't vote twice. They did the same thing in Iraq, right? They had the green. I mean, that's that, I mean, apparently it worked, you know, but I mean, I don't know that that'll work here in the U.S. because, again, we don't even have to show IDs or anything. So I imagine that the idea of making sure that we can prove that someone already voted, that's something the Democrats would just fight against. I'm not sure how well that's working out for them in Iraq and Afghanistan as far as their democracy goes.

It works well in Mozambique. I had a friend who was in Mozambique. They had a big civil war recently over an election gone wrong. And I had a friend. He was from England and he was in Mozambique at the time. And the day of the election, a police officer asked if he wanted to vote for $5. And he was about to until they made him put it, they wanted him to put his finger in ink. And he knew he'd not be able to get out of the country if he did that because he would have stained for months of time. So Mozambique, it's working. pretty well there you go yeah and besides the civil war obviously i don't think it's correlated but i identify as tax exempts as republicans are red democrats are blue no matter what you choose you get dick cheney based i almost said base too you're winner either way that's that's a that's a libertarian being upset about that just so you know sadder they are the happier i am All right, let's see what we got here. Fuck It Button says, I get the blaming California mentality, and it's not wrong, but by far the biggest problem is insane, rabid, native-born Texan leftist. They are far more than I ever expected. California never live, even once now, Texas.

Texan. Well, Bernie Sanders is from a majority of what state, as I understand it. Well, I mean, that is true. Texas, Tony Ortiz came on, and this is a stat that actually a lot of like Texas politics. experts love citing is that like what the Ted Cruz, Beto O'Rourke Senate race, for example, is native-born Texas actually voted blue 55-45, and transplants voted 55-45 for Ted Cruz. So the numbers suggest that it's actually the transplants coming from presumably blue states that are keeping the state red, and the native-born Texans are the ones that are voting blue. And this does make sense because it's like, yeah, if you did come from California, you would

probably not be keen on voting Democrat. Obviously, this doesn't always happen like in Nevada and Arizona, but at least in Texas, it seems to be the case by the data is actually the native-born Texans. You have to consider the massive demographic shifts that occurred in Texas throughout the 80s and 90s and 2000s. It is not the same, it's not the same demographics that you had in the 80s that was, you know, your cowboys and that sort of thing is much different now. I think there's also something to the over-inclusivity of what it means to be whites. Whites in Vermont are different from whites in West Virginia, are different from whites in Pennsylvania, are different from whites in Illinois. They came from different backgrounds, have different values, are different

versions of Christians. Right. I mean, the downstream effects of that, you know, it is over-inclusive to just say, oh, white people, and they all think the same, and they're all Americans in the same way. I do think they're broadly homogenizing. I think, like, white voters are now more impacted by their environment. Like, I think white voters in New England, the reason they are so Democratic is because they're not typically exposed to the result of their policies, like people in larger states like Ohio, Illinois. For example, like diversity, like when you import a bunch of immigrants, people in states with high-powered economies are going to feel that a lot heavier

than, like, if you're in Vermont, where it's 98% of Americans. I think it's like it's downstream effects of where they immigrated to as I believe north in the New England area was mostly from England. In like Pennsylvania, as I understand, there were a lot of Germans who came over. and like these are different pockets of different whites and in any other context would be considered you know completely different and different religions and and have blood feuds going back thousands of years but now since we're in america and the skin just kind of looks the same it's we're over inclusive with them i think is the definitely is something yeah yeah i mean there's definitely something to be said with like new england wasps being very liberal now but i like i said earlier the reason i say it's homogenizing is because a like the influx of white americans that came you know with the Ellis Island wave sort of just flooded the entire country, and it did have it homogenizing. In fact, all of the local cultures from, like, there's a great book Albion Sea that discusses like the different migration patterns of people from England.

Like that's a whole other thing. But like New England, for example, the majority of whites in New England now are Irish and Italian from New Hampshire to Massachusetts to Connecticut. So it's like, okay, yes, the wasps did shape the culture there and the culture to the day does still reflect that kind of early wasp heritage, but the vast majority of whites there, don't trace the majority of their lineage to that. And that's broadly the case across the country now. I mean, you still, the South, okay, yes, the Scots-Irish influence is still there. But whites are becoming more of a monolith, and they're moving around a lot too.

Yeah. Like, I mean, maybe 100 years ago, that would 100% be the case. But yeah, those sort of migration patterns are starting to become less relevant as the country becomes more jumbled, and like I said, the Ellis Island waves of migration as well. Michael Thompson says, something you didn't know about the trucking story from yesterday. The company he was driving for had been shut down and had merely changed numbers and physical addresses before restarting. No change. So this, I think, is why you need to expropriate their property if they're hiring illegals. Take their stuff and sell their stuff to other people and throw them in jail for hiring illegal aliens.

Did you see the trucking story? I did not. It was crazy. It was in Florida, there was an illegal immigrant trucker from India. Oh, no, I saw that. And he just U-turned. You tried to take a U-turned in the middle of a freeway. Killed three Americans.

Yeah, killed three people. No, I saw that, and his reaction was like, when something hit me? He just turned around. No, I did see that. Yeah. Horrible. It was a California-issued CDO. Go figure.

Yeah. Yeah. So it's terrible. And, you know, we need to do something to make it difficult. for illegals to live here. And I think that one of the things that Democrats say all the time is, oh, you know, why don't you ever go after the people that hire him? Well, guess what?

I think we should. I think we should take their shit. I think we should throw them in jail, take their business, take their property. Because they know what they're doing. They know they're hiring. Look, people, the majority of people coming across the last four years or every year, they want to be in America. And I get it.

And they're good people. The majority, they're still breaking the law. Yeah. you're still breaking the law come across legally yeah my my grandparents did you know just come and do the legal thing what's i mean it's weird to me it's it's and people are all upset about you know that what we're taking i was in who was the female governor jan Arizona years ago what was her name oh man you go back if you go back 10 12 15 years or whatever she was the one that first had a big issue was going on with all these illegals coming across and and she said

i'm going to endorse i'm going to enforce the the in brewer Jan Brewer, thank you. I'm going to enforce the loss of the land. And there was a woman that at a 1-80 I'm and I was a fan. I said, yeah, we should. She goes, we should have an open border. I said, no, we shouldn't.

And so she just got in my face. And I said, okay, you go home tonight and there's a family of seven in your living room. I'd let them stay, she said, which is such a liberal thing to say. Because they have so much more. Oh, they care so much more. I go, you get rid of your family

for three days of Christmas. Give me a break. You're not going to let the family of seven people you don't know in your house stay with you. I mean, they try to be so, oh, we're so much more better and noble than you were. But it's all just such an act. It's like the permissivity of it.

Like I looked up into this guy's case or like this trucker we're talking about. And like he had not understood like I think most of the signage. Like he didn't understand half of like the questions and they still gave him the license. They still permitted and said, oh, you can just have this. Like the people that are hiring like Phil has said are those people that we need to be like actually grilling and punishing because that's who's providing this whole ecosystem for all these people, you know? Can I go out on the limb here and say something about the truckers too? Do is it just me or do we put them on a bit of a pedestal? Yeah, because they...

I don't. No, no, I don't know, because I drive a lot and I see a lot of these truckers on the road. I spent a lot of time on tour dealing with truckers and dealing with truckers at truck stops. I do not put those men on a pedestal at all. I feel like, oh, the truckers... Not one bit.

They do foreign work. Everybody, all work, you know, is something we should admire and think people are doing hard at, but like... How do you think freight in this country travels, mostly by rail or by truck? mostly by truck I would say truck I understand

yeah but that you know all jobs have value but that doesn't mean I have to love truckers driving like I'm not saying you have to love this truck off on the

on the highway which is often not the best drivers and I feel like we always say like oh they're the lifeline of the nation and you know

they provide a great service and they always what are you going for here they always pull in front of me when I'm cruising and they go 71 to pass the truck going 70 yeah it takes forever

to get fired every Every night when I do my outro or when I get done, the last thing I say is the left lane is for crying. Yeah. Because you should not be in the left lane doing 65 or less. You should be doing more than that. Anyways.

Imagine the pissed off truck driver, Timcast viewer watching. Look, there's a lot. There's totally trash. I am critical of truck drivers on X frequently. and I take a lot of heat about it because I'll be like, you know, so when I first heard about this particular

this particular story, I was like, I can't wait until AI trucks are the majority of trucks on the road and boy, did people hate it. Some dude got, he got all up and he's like, I can't wait until AI takes your job. I'm like, bro, I'm a musician. Like 20 frigging years ago,

my industry was destroyed. So don't tell me about, oh, look, you're going to destroy my industry. Deal with it. That's what happens. Truck drivers, don't worry. I got your backs. These AI clankers are not coming for your jobs. I will not let it happen.

It's not going to happen. Yeah, they are. Yeah, they are. Millennial Mechanics says, continuing the tradition of posting, we just got home with my newborn. He is a whole day old, and we love him so much. Keep the good show up, folks. Congratulations. Thank you very much.

We're continuing the species we here at Timcast. love babies so make more babies so we got one more here um oh Rie Cohen says at the hospital with my wife Chelsea who is giving birth to our first baby she's such a trooper congratulations great to hear nice I love the the two uh two shoutouts in in one night that's a lot of baby making happening yeah you know well the I mean the babies are made they're just kind of there's probably more happening now hopefully trucker conversation about got some people fired up palms in yeah all right they're convicted over the birth rate conversation that could be what it was too steve smith says doing awesome hosting phil thank you and also love when a lot is on i do as well

he certainly is the beetle juice of timcast just kidding kind of i love a lot i love a lot because a lot is thoughtful in a lot of his points and there are times where we disagree and we can have a productive or interesting or fun back and forth so you this is a no disparaging a lot zone here. If I'm running the show, no disparaging a lot. You're always great filling in. Sometimes it's not about what you want to hear. Sometimes it's about what you need to hear. That's right. That's right. Let's see. I identify as tax exempt said. Oh no, we already said that. Yeah. Method 671 says he only wants to legalize it for the taxable market. Hookers don't pay taxes on their Johns. He knows the government is missing out on all that sweet, sweet cash. I mean, look, I

I don't know. I don't know what Mamdani's thinking. I don't know. I don't know. Anyways, look. Brings a new meaning of tap and pay. You know? Listen, smash the like button. Share the show with everyone, you know. Head on over to Tim Cass. Become a member and join the Discord. Head on over to Rumble and become a member there so you can join us for the after show, which we're about to go to. Kevin. Do you have anything to shout out? Shout out. Hey, I got four movies coming out, like I said earlier, and I got three documentaries done.

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No, I'm not just going to ask random jericho questions. Although I am trying to learn Spanish because I'll ask them what country they're from and they'll lie to me and be like, no hablo, English and USA. I want to say, Dundayrhus, too, is that? I am Phil that remains on Twix. I'm Phil that remains official on, actually, no, I'm not Phil that remains official anymore. I got rid of that one. The band is all that remains.

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