Timcast IRL - Trump Russia HOAX DECLASSIFIED, Obama Officials EXPOSED In "TREASONOUS CONSPIRACY” w/ Alex Stein & 67 Kevin
Episode Date: July 19, 2025Phil, Ian, & Carter are joined by Alex Stein & 67 Kevin to discuss Tulsi Gabbard declassifying the files surrounding the Trump-Russia hoax, Trump to sue the Wall Street Journal over their reporting on... a birthday from Trump to Epstein, Democrats blaming Trump for CBS cancelling The Late Show, and Puerto Rico banning gender transition for everyone under 21 years old. Hosts: Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Carter @CarterBanks (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guests: Alex Stein @alexstein99 (X) 67 Kevin | https://SixSevenStories.com
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So the scientific community thinks it's spinning, it's just alternating position, and then that
causes electrons and protons to form.
Sick.
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From Real Clear Investigations, exclusive secret meetings open document floodgates Hanging out with y'all tonight. All right, well, we'll get right into it then. From real clear investigations,
exclusive secret meetings opened document floodgates
on Trump-Russia hoax.
The floodgates holding back long buried classified documents
exposing government efforts to claim Donald Trump
conspired with Vladimir Putin to manipulate
the 2016 US presidential election might finally be opening.
Trump administration officials held an urgent
meeting Sunday to discuss new information on Russiagate, which they
might use to build a criminal conspiracy case against Obama and Biden
administrations. Political appointees who allegedly weaponized the government
against Trump, two Trump administration officials told real real clear
investigations. The documents are said to contain long classified
information, including a secret 200 page congressional audit
that reveals details about how an intelligence community
assessment on Russia ordered by President Obama
after the 2016 election was framed in a way that portrayed
Trump as being beholden to the Kremlin.
Now everybody here may, well you may or may not be aware
of it, but I believe it was last week Matt Taibbi wrote on his substack about
how the DOJ, about Comey and Brennan, were involved, that there was evidence
against them and now there's investigations into both Comey and
Brennan. But I'm wondering if you guys have any kind of take on this? What do you think? Have you heard of
the Brennan kill list? The strike list? No, Google Brennan kill list. So John Brennan
every Tuesday would make a list of assets. He would go over the CIA, who to
kill. I think it was a New York Times wrote about it. It's a Brennan kill list.
And every Tuesday they would type in John Brennan kill list Tuesday. It should
come up. So every Tuesday they would submit this list to Obama and Obama
would kill these people type in type so you're talking well you're talking about
the John Brennan's kill list right here the New Yorker so you know this talks
about obviously you probably have to pay for the article but it talks about how
John Brennan would give a list every Tuesday and Barack Obama would personally
oversee and approve who would kill.
Yeah, so I think that that's the deposition matrix, formerly known as a kill list, is a database of
information for tracking, capturing, rendering, or killing suspected enemies of the United States.
Is that what you're talking about? Yes. So this is the drone strike list that Obama would use.
Well, they would have multiple lists. I mean, they would kill people with drones and kill people all
different ways on this list, allegedly the CIA list. And so I would think it's pretty obvious
that John Brennan and Obama are corrupt.
So I mean, I definitely want to look into it.
A lot of people don't know about this list,
but literally this list, allegedly every Tuesday,
there's different names, different assets,
and they would go kill the people on this list.
So I don't want to be on that list.
I mean, who knows who's on that list?
Let's see that list.
This list, the deposition matrix,
this is where they had the justification
for killing M.R. they had the justification for killing Anwar Al-Alaqi
and for killing whoever was targeted at the wedding that Anwar Al-Alaqi's son was at that
ended up with him being killed by drone strikes.
Yeah, but I'm just saying this list though is not just big assets, like there's small
assets on this list, you know, there's all kinds of people on this list.
I mean, and who chooses to kill this guy because we don't like him because they don't give us a good deal on oil? Like, you know, there's all kinds of people on this list, I mean, and who chooses to kill this guy
because we don't like him because they don't give us,
you know, a good deal on oil, like, you know,
who gets to choose, why are we?
Well, apparently it was John Brennan in the present
that were choosing.
It's a thing, so John Brennan gets to decide,
oh, we're gonna kill this guy.
So I don't know, I don't like that our government
even has a list like that, I mean, I know I'm being-
News update every Tuesday?
Every Tuesday, literally it was called,
there's that, that New Yorker I think wrote about it,
and there's other people that have written about it,
but it was every Tuesday that this list would go out and would be a new list
Be new assets that they would go and kill and Barack Obama was the guy that actually directly approve it to John Brennan
So I think they're corrupt
I think if you just look at this article and and you guys can do your own research or not, you know
Conspiracy theorists is actual knowledge that has been exposed
So yes, I want them held accountable and that's what I that's why I don't like the war in the Middle East.
You guys probably agree with me.
Why are we drone striking weddings?
Why are we drone striking Afghani funerals?
I mean, it's just, because we're killing terrorists,
because that protects us.
To my knowledge, there haven't been really a lot
of drone strikes as of late.
Not as of late, but Barack Obama,
I think he did a drone strike every,
I think it was like, I think he did enough drone strikes
in eight years. He dropped a drone every two hours for eight years. I've got the stats for that. Actually. I just looked this up
This is ridiculous. So three three to four thousand total deaths from Obama drone strikes with 300 to 1,000
civilian deaths
You can multiply that by three. It's like a girl's body count
They tell you they banged five guys, they banged 50 guys.
And that's the same thing.
If the CIA tells you they killed 3,000,
they probably killed 30,000.
And that's out of 563 drone strikes.
That's a ton of drone strikes to OK.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
So but back to the home front here,
the idea that CIA and the Obama administration, including the FBI,
was fabricating information about foreign collusion
by Donald Trump, by the elected president,
because a lot of the, if I understand correctly,
the information that Tulsi Gabbard had put up,
it's all on her ex account,
but she was talking about in December,
so Donald Trump had been elected,
and at that point they were saying,
on December 8th, 2016,
IC officials prepared an assessment
for the president's daily brief
finding that Russia did not impact
recent US election results
by conducting cyber attacks on infrastructure.
Before it could reach the president, it was abruptly pulled based on new guidance.
This key intelligence assessment was never published.
Now, it's based on guidance.
That's not based on evidence that was found or new intelligence.
It was guidance from the higher ups in the CIA, I suppose.
This is after Donald Trump had already won the election.
So it's the outgoing president trying to implicate the incoming administration in fixing the
election.
I mean, that's something that everybody in the United States should have a problem with.
Yeah, but I mean, now don't we not even care anymore?
I mean, do we really care anymore about Russia?
I feel like everybody knows it was BS, Donald Trump won the second election, and now going
back I think that we would all say, and you guys might not agree, that it was good that
Donald Trump lost the 2020 election.
So that's not, we're not talking about the-
I know we're talking about 2016 and how the Russian collusion and how it's all fake, but
we know that it's fake.
Is anybody going to be held accountable?
I doubt it.
Well, I mean, like I said last week, or maybe the week before,
both Comey and Brennan are under investigation.
So an actual investigation by the justice department now,
with this information,
it's completely reasonable to think
that they might be actually brought before a court
or something might actually happen.
I understand, you know, there's a lot of people
that are like, oh nothing ever happens,
and that's even to the point that it's a meme now.
But still, if they're investigating,
and there's this evidence that DNI Gabbard
has delivered to the DOJ,
because at the end of this tweet thread she says,
I'm providing all documents to the Department of Justice
to deliver the accountability that President Trump, his family, and the American people deserve.
So she's delivering this information.
They've already started the investigations into those two guys without this information.
So this going to them, I would assume that it is more than just a fart in the wind.
Well, does Comey get a pass though?
Because I think that in 2016, him saying that he would investigate Hillary Clinton arguably won Donald Trump the wind. Well, does Comey get a pass though? Because I think that in 2016, him saying that he would investigate Hillary Clinton, arguably
won Donald Trump the election.
So I don't know if he meant to do that, but I think Donald Trump almost kind of owes James
Comey one.
Do you think he'll give him a pardon on this deal?
I don't know.
I think he would.
I think Comey will get off.
I just personally don't think anybody in the FBI will actually tell on themselves like
this.
I hope I'm wrong.
I hope Tulsi Gabbard does this.
I just have no hope of the FBI investigating itself
or the CIA investigating itself.
So I feel like this is one of the things
that the Trump administration has tried to do
since it got into office again,
has been trying to cleave apart the deep state
and go after the entrenched bureaucrats.
And I think that this might be
an actual significant part of it. Yeah, it seems like they're starting from the very beginning and go after the entrenched bureaucrats. And I think that this might be
an actual significant part of it.
Yeah, it seems like they're starting
from the very beginning when they're finally in there
and they're like, okay, well, we can at least start
with this from 2016 and start piecing together
what we could possibly do about this situation.
So it's like better than nothing.
Yeah, I mean, and to another point,
there's a lot of people that are complaining pretty regularly.
Oh, I wanna see arrests.
What's Donald Trump doing?
What's Donald Trump doing, et cetera.
And Cash Patel and Dan Bongino have said,
hey, look, we're working behind the scenes.
We can't tell you guys what's going on
and we can't arrest people or make arrests
without actually having tangible evidence
that we could actually take action on because you don't want to arrest people and not have
something to actually prosecute, not be sure that you have a legitimate chance of actually
being successful.
I mean the government's what, 95% of their prosecutions they end up convicting, come
to a conviction.
So they want to. I want it's higher than 95 percent
Oh, you see you know we're gonna go back
We're gonna investigate this and obviously they can they colluded and I think there's a lot of people that are involved in the collusion in
2016 the Russia gate stuff
But I wish that Donald Trump would actually use his resources to investigate whether Michelle Obama has a penis or not you know
I mean like I want I'm sick and tired like we know about Russia stuff
I want to know about this conspiracy stuff.
And on a serious note, obviously Michelle Obama,
whether she has one or not, there is other stuff
I think that is more important to go after
than just James Comey.
So I don't know.
Look at, you said Marine Comey lost her job
in the Puff Daddy trial.
I think that was, she purposely did that.
She purposely lost that case.
I think there's a big conspiracy there. So Puff Daddy would walk because I think Puff Daddy's
connected to the same people that Jeffrey Epstein
is connected to and that they-
I disagree.
You don't think so?
The reason I disagree is I think that the people
that Puff Daddy is mostly connected to
are multi-millionaires.
The people that Epstein is dealing with
are multi-billionaires and that is a world of,
it is as different from me to multi-billionaires.
I would argue that those people
are financially more powerful,
but I would say culturally the people that Puff Daddy did
are more popular in general,
so they could be used for even more leverage
because they're actually outspoken.
Like a celebrity is more important
than the secret billionaire.
Who was implicated in the Puff Daddy stuff?
Well, Jay-Z, Beyonce, allegedly,
and then they had to sue a bunch of people. I mean, this is allegedly, I'm not Jay Z, Beyonce, allegedly, and then they had to sue a bunch of people.
I mean, this is allegedly, I'm not saying Jay Z
was doing that, but he had to sue a bunch of people
for accusing him of being at these parties.
So I do think, even though they might not have been
as financially powerful, they were powerful
in a different way, you know, to try to,
if you have leverage on a person like Michael Jackson
or a person like R. Kelly or something like that,
I think that is very powerful.
Like, their message goes a lot farther
than a billionaire who nobody knows her name.
It kind of makes me think that, like you said,
they should be focusing on maybe something more important
than the Comey thing.
And now, firstly, if they did collude,
they bring it to justice.
Are you saying that they should be focusing
on something more important?
Well, that's what Alex was insinuating,
why is the government focusing on this thing?
It seems like it's almost irrelevant.
And it does feel like they're trying
to throw people off the Epstein case
and make them think about something new.
They're like, oh shit, Epstein, Epstein, ah.
And Trump doesn't want to be involved,
doesn't want to be near the name.
And he's like, just hit Comey.
Go for Comey.
I think you've all got Epstein on the brain.
Yeah, well, how could we not?
I mean, that's the only thing.
We want this damn list.
I mean, I can see the influencers are Yeah, well how could we not? I mean, that's the only thing, we want this damn list. I mean, I can see the influencers are like,
well, you know, we have bigger fish to fry
than the Epstein list, but I've been passionate
about this since 2016, and the Epstein list
was one of the reasons that I started liking Donald Trump,
because he was opposite of Hillary,
who Bill Clinton was on this plane doing God knows what.
So it's something that-
Donald Trump isn't implicated in being on the plane.
He was on the plane, but I do think that Bill Clinton
getting oral sex from Monica Lewinsky and maybe doing more in the Oval Office, So it's something that- Donald Trump isn't implicated in being on the plane. He was on the plane, but I do think that Bill Clinton
getting oral sex from Monica Lewinsky
and maybe doing more in the Oval Office,
I think he, maybe Donald Trump's a dog,
he likes to bang him, I'm sure he does,
but I think Bill Clinton's even more of a sexual pervert
and I think he's more of a sexual degenerate
and I think that he is more than likely guilty.
More than Epstein?
Well no, Bill Clinton and Epstein are probably the same.
You know Epstein, I don't even know,
I don't wanna say this on YouTube,
I don't wanna get it strict,
but supposedly Epstein had,
I was just listening to Tucker talk about this,
was obsessed with girls with braces.
I was just thinking that,
I was thinking that, I was like, Bill Clinton,
I was like, Bill Clinton, you know.
So Epstein's the sickest,
but Bill Clinton I think is a close,
he's a dog too,
but the sickest of them all is Jimmy Seville.
That's the person we're not talking about.
That's a guy that was a host to Top of the Pops,
he was knighted by the queen.
He was best friends with Prince Charles.
And then after his death, it came out that he was a porter
at the Royal Children's Hospital,
and that he allegedly would go into the morgue,
and he would take bodies, and they would take him on boats,
and they would do SRA, satanic ritualistic abuse,
and they would do rituals with the dead bodies.
And Jimmy Saville laid the groundwork
for these elite pedophiles doing, you know,
weird rituals with children.
So I get that, you know, the Epstein stuff
is very hot right now,
and there's a lot of people that want to talk about it.
You don't think that the possibility of finding out
that the Obama administration,
including former President Obama,
were involved in trying to, you know,
trying to basically do a coup to an incoming president.
You know, I mean that-
I think we already know that.
I mean, what, are we gonna arrest Barack Obama?
You think they're gonna-
We all know that Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile.
You just-
That's true, but I just don't think
they're gonna arrest Barack Obama.
I don't think they're gonna arrest James Comey.
I don't think John Brennan's,
if John Brennan had a list where he could just kill people-
Epstein's dead, they're not arresting him again. Yeah, but there's people that are alive that are still on the list
You know what I mean? Like, you know what they did arrest Epstein because they finally got the paperwork finished
So maybe this is the beginning of that of
Like going after the the for the 2016 stuff the Russia gate. Oh, okay going after like the yeah
I mean, I'm not saying that it's not important. I just, I'm worried.
I love Cash.
I'm friends, you know, with Cash Patel.
He's helped me out, but I just do not trust the FBI
to investigate itself.
I mean, call me Blackpilled or whatever.
So I don't know.
I don't, we have a system of justice,
but it's not very just.
So I don't think, it's like the MAGA granny
is gonna get six years in jail, but you know, James Comey,
he's probably not gonna get five minutes.
Take that thought and apply it to the Epstein stuff.
If you don't trust the FBI to investigate itself
and the evidence that DNI, Gabbard has prevented you.
I think raping a child is worse
than whatever James Comey did.
But why would the FBI investigate that
if they wouldn't investigate? Well, the FBI didn't really investigate that if they wouldn't investigate?
Well, the FBI didn't really investigate that very well, did they?
So then why, so do you think that there's more of a chance that stuff will come out about the Epstein stuff?
I think it's a possibility, but I was arguing with James O'Keefe about this.
He says it's going to come out sooner. I think it'll probably all come out after we're dead.
That's when the list will come out. It's like how in 9-11, there's 28 pages redacted that they're
not going to give us. So they give us a 9-11 commission report, there's 28 pages redacted that they're not gonna give us. So they give us a 9-11 commission report,
but literally 28 pages are redacted.
So they give us a binder,
but it's full of a bunch of bull crap we already know.
That was, so the binder was just the worst stunt.
Was the worst.
But why even give us the binder
if there's not gonna be a phase two?
Why put phase one?
Phases, there's multiple phases.
That was the dumbest thing.
That was literally the dumbest thing
that the administration, the Trump administration has done bar none. That was the worst thing they. That was literally the dumbest thing that the administration, the Trump administration
has done bar none.
That was the worst thing they've done.
And people have attacked the influencers, but I'm actually empathetic to them because
they didn't know.
They didn't know.
And any of us, if they invited me to the White House and they handed me a binder, I'd be
like, this is cool.
That's part of why it was so bad because they embarrassed people that had been such staunch
supporters of the administration.
What was the actual point of that? Did we say anything at all?
There was literally none. That's the problem.
But they had some reason they did that.
To try to, I guess, appease us in some sort of way.
And I think people that are...
This is the thing. Most people are low IQ voters
and don't even know who JD Vance is.
But that's the difference between us and the left.
Conservatives are actually paying a little more attention.
So we're not as dumb as the left. So I think that's why they weren't able to trick us with this. And that's why there's still people that are us and the left. Conservatives are actually paying a little more attention, so we're not as dumb as the left.
So I think that's why they weren't able to trick us with this,
and that's why there's still people
that are influential on the right
calling out the Trump administration,
saying, where's the transparency that you guys campaigned on?
Yeah, well, I think you made a good point.
It's gonna come out when we die,
because the JFK files, there's a lot more stuff in there
because everybody was dead from it.
So that's when they come out with the good stuff.
But are they going to actually arrest Obama for this?
Does anybody think that's actually gonna happen?
Think it's gonna happen.
I don't think, I probably would say no,
I don't think it's gonna happen.
Should it happen?
Yes, should it happen?
It's totally and completely within the realm
of possibility.
Ordinarily, I would agree and say like,
it could never happen, but then we had Trump arrested
But that's part of the thing. It's like the that kind of you know, seal has been broken on investing presence so and
It is without a question
That whatever if the the things that are being implicated that the Obama administration has been implicated on the the alleged
behaviors that
Tulsi Gabbard says that she's delivered the information to the Justice Department if that actually did happen
That is without question enough to put Barack Obama in jail. Oh for you know far worse
It's far worse than anything Trump did they had to literally create. You know they had to create a a whole
Lista or a whole fake crime,
so that way the misdemeanors could be brought
to the level of felonies.
Luckily for Barack Obama, he used to write letters
to his ex-lover that he fantasized about
having gay relations, so in prison,
he would probably do very well.
Maybe his fantasies would come true.
He wrote that letter for a reason,
so if he went to jail, it probably wouldn't be that bad.
He'd probably be the king of the jail.
He'd be the president of the jail. And he's an African American, so basically they he went to jail it probably wouldn't be that bad he'd probably be the king of the jail he'd be the president of the jail so and
he's an African-American so basically they do go to jail more so actually
you're right Barack Obama is for prison. Dude if he got a mugshot it would be a third term for Obama.
I know actually you're probably not wrong could you imagine if he had the same
kind of Trump mugshot shirt? Because nobody's ever competed with merch like Biden you know
Andrew Schultz jokes about it, didn't sell any merch.
Trump sold so much merch, but we're forgetting
Obama sold a bunch of merch.
That's true.
Obama invented a type of merch.
Dude, he invented the Obama shirt.
Right.
Dude, he, so, if you had merch for merch
and you had a merch booth of Barack Obama,
you know, mugshot shirts and Donald Trump mugshot shirts,
I don't know, I bet it'd be closer than you'd think.
Do you think that that's because the now modern America wants a celebrity president? People
would say that Donald Trump is the first celebrity president.
He is.
No, I disagree. I disagree. I think that it's not Reagan. I think that it was Barack Obama.
That was the first because he would do slow jam the news on the nightly shows. People
loved Barack.
You're right. When I was in college.
Not Ted, Tedd Rosse college. How about Teddy Roosevelt?
Is it just too early for celebrities to even exist?
Yeah, Teddy Roosevelt.
Pre-television?
We'll have a teddy bear off of him.
So you're talking about post-television era?
Well, I mean, just the first one
to actually be considered a celebrity.
Because even, like, there's an argument that Bill Clinton,
when he went on MTV and played the sax,
that was, like, the first kind of putting the...
Okay, so when the president first,
then they become a celebrity
because they're the president?
Well, I mean, Donald Trump is the first person
that was a celebrity first,
but I think that Barack Obama became a celebrity
as he became president, because he was literally,
you know, he's the junior senator from Illinois,
and then he gets catapulted into the...
He had great style.
Like, Reagan was a B-list celebrity, an actor,
but he wasn't like Trump. I don't think he was B-list. I was told he was a B-list celebrity, but an actor, but he wasn't like Trump.
I don't think he was B-list.
I was told he was a B-list actor growing up.
I think it's people that were critical of him that were calling him a B-list.
I think he was a pretty pretty hot commodity.
Nothing compared to Trump.
And like you said, Kennedy, John F. Kennedy, superstar, dated Marilyn Monroe or he had
Marilyn Monroe in the White House.
I think he was probably the first.
I'm asking Grok right now.
It says Reagan, Grok says, for the first celebrity president.
He was pretty famous.
I would still argue, I would debate this all day long,
that it is technically Donald Trump,
even though because every president, you could say,
is a celebrity.
Because Donald Trump had The Apprentice,
was like the number one reality show.
He actually had a whole career just doing celebrity TV
and then went to politics.
I don't know.
I think like, I would say that if The Rock became president,
you know, that Donald Trump is more like The Rock
than he is than Barack Obama.
Yeah, he's a rich entertainer.
Yes.
As opposed to a politician.
And that's why I hope, I mean this, I pray,
I don't pray for a lot.
I do pray, but I do pray that Tucker Carlson runs
for president.
I think Tucker has a big chance of winning.
And I know some people might not like that, but I hope pray that Tucker Carlson runs for president. I think Tucker has a big chance of winning and I know some people might not like that,
but I hope Tucker runs.
In 2028?
I think he'll be the next celebrity president.
I think, I don't know if he'll run in 2028 and I've actually talked to him.
I've asked him.
He says he has no interest in politics.
He's said that to me twice.
You think JD has what it takes?
I think they're going to put him up.
I mean, I, I like JD Vance, some stuff he was just on Theo Von's podcast, you know,
a couple months ago.
Oh, Epstein list, Epstein List.
He's not talking about the Epstein List anymore.
So I don't know.
I mean, I like JD Vance, but I mean.
He doesn't have the celebrity power that we're talking about.
He doesn't have the swag.
Him running at Disneyland, he didn't have the swag.
He needs to have like-
He's the kind of guy we need though.
Somebody that came from a poor upbringing
that isn't a rich kid.
I think that's what Americans have wanted for so long. It might be, it might be time to like not revert but to go away from the celebrity obsession
into like a bureaucrat, not a bureaucrat but like a math guy. This is where I disagree though.
JD Vance is his Ivy League school guy. I mean he gives us like, oh I'm a hillbilly, I'm just a hillbilly,
but he named his son Vivek after Vivek Ramaswamy, his best friend. His mom was a drug addict.
He had a terrible childhood. No, no, but a lot of people's moms are drug addicts. You know, a lot of people have drug addicts. That's true. His son's name is Vivek. Yeah, he named his son Vivek after Vivek Ramaswamy, his best friend. His mom was a drug addict. He had a tattoo.
No, no, but a lot of people's moms are drug addicts.
You know, a lot of people have drug addicts.
That's true, his son's name is Vivek?
Yeah, he named his son, JD Vance named his son
after his best friend Vivek from law school,
and that they've been friends.
Isn't that a weird?
Really?
Dude, look it up right now, look it up.
Yes, Vivek is, JD Vance named his son
after Vivek Ramaswamy.
And JD is super tight with Peter Thiel, I'm hearing.
Thiel was like investing in his company,
is that what it was?
And then listen to this, you know,
I got in trouble for this.
You know that Augustus Derico guy,
the guy that's doing the Rainmaker guy?
So I said one tweet, that guy went on every single podcast
after those 27 kids, those poor children drowned,
went on all these podcasts talking about,
oh, his company had nothing to do with it,
it's 48 hours, and I'm sure his company had nothing to do with it.
But I did one tweet where I was like, this guy's going, basically it was like, this guy's
going on a media tour is not showing any remorse. Dude, he had Peter Thiel had people contact
me, like multiple people at my company, multiple people that I'm that I know had 10 different
people. And I've gone after Nikki Haley, I've gone after some high powerful people. And
me going after Augustus Jericho
got Peter Thiel involved and tried to,
just because of one tweet, this is less than two weeks.
This is about the cloud seeding stuff.
This is about the cloud seeding,
about the horrible floods that happened in Kerrville, Texas
where over 100 people died and 27 girls at a Christian camp,
Camp Mystic, that had been there 99 years.
And on top of this, they were arguing with me about it.
They're like, actually, in 1987,
there was a really bad flood,
too. But that flood was 15 feet. Well, this one was 26 feet. And
this one happened in like 90 minutes. And I do not like
people manipulating the weather. Call me old school,
call me old fashioned, but guys going on podcasts like, Oh, we
need to manipulate the weather because these farmers don't have
enough water. It's like, okay, all right, I don't want you
spreading silver iodine in the sky. And they're like, well, we
can only create this many gallons of water. It's like okay all right I don't want you spreading silver iodine in the sky and they're like well we can only create this many gallons of water
it's like okay sure you can just pinpoint it so my point is Peter Thiel is
evil he's a sicko don't like you Peter Thiel trying to give me all right so
listen so so we are we are of the opinion that Barack Obama and his DOJ
and CIA cohorts are not going to be arrested.
Oh, I don't know. Probably not. They do deserve a perp walk.
It's like it's like the court of public opinion at this point.
If the world starts dragging them emotionally, that's
probably the victory that I think you're going to get out of it.
All right. So we're going to move on now to this story.
The Daily Mail reports Donald Trump delivers on promise to
sue the Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdoch
over Epstein birthday card.
So we have more Epstein for you guys, more Epstein.
I'm so glad.
Discussion.
More lawsuit.
I'm dying, I'm so.
Well, what did you think about that fake letter though?
That's exactly what he's talking about.
I know what you're saying, like what do you think about that?
Like who, do you think that's real?
It is the most nothingest of nothing burgers ever created.
Tell me what is it?
OK, so it's like this weird poem.
You don't even know what it is.
No, I was first to have heard of it.
They wrote it.
The Wall Street Journal said that they
had this smoking gun of incriminating Donald Trump
and his connection with Jeffrey Epstein.
And what it was is a personal letter
written to Jeffrey Epstein on his 50th birthday,
which was like in 2003.
And supposedly Donald Trump ended his relationship with him in 2008
when he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago, allegedly.
But long story short, the poem's very cringe,
and it's very weird.
It's all just not.
In the end of the poem, though, it's weird.
It's like, hope every day is a new wonderful secret.
It's just all, any, all right, so listen,
let me read the headline here.
Donald Trump delivers on promise to sue Wall Street Journal
and Rupert Murdoch over Epstein birthday card.
Donald Trump followed through on his promise to sue the Wall Street Journal and its owner, Rupert Murdoch over Epstein's birthday card. Donald Trump followed through on his promise to sue the Wall Street Journal
and its owner Rupert Murdoch after the paper reported on his alleged involvement
with a 50th birthday card to Jeffrey Epstein. Court records show the libel
suit filed in the southern district of Florida against Wall Street Journal, Dow
Jones, and Rupert Murdoch CNBC reported. A copy of the complaint was not
immediately available. The case was filed, CNBC reported. A copy of the complaint was not immediately available.
The case was filed in Miami Federal Court.
A bombshell report in the Wall Street Journal on Thursday
claimed Trump wrote a bawdy 50th birthday card to Epstein
which it concluded, happy birthday,
and may every day be another wonderful secret.
The newspaper said it had reviewed a typewritten letter
bearing Trump's signature framed by the seemingly
hand-drawn outline of a naked woman
that Ghislaine Maxwell included in a 2003 birthday album.
Even if Donald Trump wrote that,
which I don't think that he actually wrote the card,
if you actually read, I don't think that he dictated it,
I don't think he had anything to do with the actual writing
of the stuff in it, but even if he did,
it is still a nothing burger.
It still doesn't do anything.
Everyone knows that Donald Trump and Epstein
were friends until 2005 or six or whatever
when he kicked them out of Mar-a-Lago.
This is nothing new.
And the only reason that the Wall Street Journal
is going with this is because it is Epstein and Trump and it will get clicks
This is a gigantic nothing Trump denied that yeah, he said that's why he's suing
Because they denied it. Daily Mail mentioned though didn't mention the weirdest part is when he wrote on the drawing
Where he put his name Donald was in the pubic area of the yeah, I heard that I can't find the picture
Yeah, I know. I just don't think Donald's doing that I don't think Donald's drawing a naked woman and writing Donald on the vagic area of the... Yeah, I heard that, but I can't find the picture. Yeah, I know. So I just don't think Donald's doing that.
I don't think Donald's drawing a naked woman
and writing Donald on the vaginal area of it.
I mean, I could be wrong.
I know Donald's grabber by the...
I know, but I mean, people...
So he was swearing up and down that he doesn't draw
and there was something, people have said that,
but there's also a bunch of pictures
that he actually did draw of New York skyline,
or skyline of skyline.
Oh, wait, so there is art?
Yeah, there is.
I mean, look, is art? Yeah, there is.
I mean look, it is the most,
the most second, third grade,
yeah, most elementary kind of drawing you can imagine.
Of course Donald Trump says, I've never drawn anything.
I've never held a crayon or a pen.
I've never done it.
I only use blue.
Yeah, that's typical Donald Trump stuff.
But there are these pictures that he's alleged to have drawn
that he signed, and he sells them, or people sell them.
They're going for $20,000, $30,000 on eBay or whatever.
But still, to me, this is just like,
this is absolutely nothing because there's no allegations
except for, hey, Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein
used to be friends.
And there's a million pictures of Donald Trump and Jeffrey a lot of the Epstein stuff is
Relatively nothing like they say the word pedophile pedo from what I learned yesterday indicates prepubescent
So a lot of this Epstein stuff's not pedophilia. It's like girls
No, no
There's a gene there was a lot of pedophilia because John Luke Brunel
We can only say so much that Jeffrey Epstein's biggest sexual conquest and that he would brag about
Allegedly was that he slept with three triplets that were 11 years old.
That is when it goes vile where it's like erratic, like that you need to...
He would brag about that.
That's pedophilia.
It's gross.
The young children, you protect that when it's 15, 16 year old girls who are age of
consent in most of, in a lot of the world.
I don't know.
Maybe not in certain areas.
I'm gonna save you.
I'm saying that I'm stopping you because I'm saving you.
No one wants to hear.
You don't want to conflate real disgusting pedophilia.
That train has left the building.
With the guy that got a massage and a hand job.
I'm trying to help you.
I'm trying to help you.
That train has left, the point that I'm making is
that train has left the building.
Most people are aware of the distinction, but it is a distinction without a difference
in most people's minds.
What I'm saying is if Donald Trump got a hand job from a 15 year old and he thought she
was 18, that's a big difference than having sex with a six year old.
Is it a big difference or it's just a difference?
It is a completely different reality
to get rubbed down by a girl that you think is 18 that's 16
or going after a nine-year-old.
It's not the same thing.
I agree, but well, there's two different things.
It's like one, if you're being misled,
you think somebody's of age, like that,
you're being tricked.
I mean, you're a victim, I guess you could say in that case,
but still a 16-year-old is still bad.
Problem, problem when it comes to that kind of stuff,
whether you're a 16-year-old or an 11-year-old,
the actual problem is the power differential
from an adult male, allegedly upwards of 30 or whatever.
I don't know how old, probably 40s or whatever.
If a male that's in his 40s is going to a girl that's 16
or a girl that's 11, it is just as abusive.
It is every bit as abusive.
No, I mean, even in reality.
In reality, I'm just saying.
It is every bit as abusive for a man who's in his 40s
to go after a 16 year old
or a 13 year old, it is just as bad.
I'm not gonna agree with that,
cause age of consent, I look up age of consent 14,
it's in a lot of countries in the world.
Yeah, but do you know why?
That's very, wait, wait, wait,
real quick, let's have this conversation.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
The reason age of consent is like 16 or 15 or whatever
is so that way a young man that's 17 or 18
that has sex with a 15 year old doesn't get his life ruined.
Okay?
I think it's so that four year old men can marry young women from like the middle ages.
Not in the United States.
In the United States, the reason that they have age of consent laws is so that way young men
that are like I said 18 you know maybe 19 dating a 16 year old it's not so bad
if an 18 year old is dating a 16 year old but legally because of the age
because of 18 you could say oh this person has their life ruined right but
it's not so that way a 40 year old man can have sex with a 15 year old
That is not what age of consent laws are for maybe
That does prevent some people that are actually abusing their power the power difference here from going to jail
But the point isn't to allow
Adult men to have sex with teenage women
That is 100% the truth. I promise you.
The intent of age- Are you arguing that it's not illegal? Are you saying
it is illegal for a four-year-old man to have sex with a 16-year-old? I'm saying it is immoral.
Hold on, let me- Okay, it's immoral. So it is legal, is what you're saying.
If the age of consent is 16 and a four-year-old man has sex with her, it's
legal. It probably would be considered legal, yes,
but that is not something that people are going to say
is acceptable.
Oh, that's fine, that's another argument.
I'm just saying, it's not like a nine,
it's a different, prepubescent humans are different,
it's a different thing.
So that's just an important nuance, man.
It's not an important nuance
because the question on people's minds,
the problem that people have is the abusive nature
of an adult man having sex with a young girl.
And so whether or not it is illegal by the law,
it is abusive and a power differential
between an adult man and a 15 year old girl.
The problem is the abusive nature, not that it's legal or whatever.
That doesn't matter.
Well that's like your opinion, man.
I sound like the dude from Lebowski.
We can ask the chat.
Well I can't debate this.
Being right or wrong.
One is right, two is wrong.
I mean as a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, I mean, Muhammad did some crazy stuff, so
I have to step out of this, you know, kindly.
So I guess the reason I bring it up is because I feel like people are fleeing the Epsi.
They don't want to be even remotely associated with anything.
They're like, I was on an airplane.
There was a 17-year-old girl giving me a massage.
Well, RFK was on the plane a bunch too, now.
Did you know that?
That was kind of bizarre.
Did you know that? RFK went dinosaur hunting with Jeffrey Epstein, allegedly,
with his family.
So maybe there's more people in the Trump administration
besides just Trump that could be collateral damage.
Like, I don't want people to think
they have to start a nuclear war to prevent their name
from coming out on a list because they
had sex with a girl that was 16 that they thought was 18.
Like, that's different than people
going after eight-year-olds. That is a different reality.
If the guy thinks that she's 18, then she's lying, right?
And that actually becomes a different context, right?
Yeah, that would entrapment.
A lot of that was entrapment on Epstein.
Well, that did happen like on Epstein, where they would like make you do gay stuff
if you weren't openly gay, you know, and they could just, you know, use that as leverage. And they, where they would make you do gay stuff if you weren't openly gay,
and they could just use that as leverage.
And they would do stuff where you would sleep with somebody
and you wouldn't know they were underage.
They would do something.
It would be like a 16-year-old or 17-year-old,
and they would say, oh, she's 19 or 18,
and they would get the girl to lie.
So that does happen, but if you're on Epstein Island
and you're having sex with somebody that looks young,
I still think that you should be in trouble.
Even if you had sex with a 16-year-old's legal,
I don't care, I think that's gross and repugnant.
But, you know, different strokes, different folks.
To go back to the news story, though,
I think Trump's gonna make a lot of money on this,
and I look this up, it's amazing.
He's made 56 million off of settlements already,
from ABC, CBS, and Facebook.
It's all gone to the Trump presidential library.
This presidential library.
This presidential library is going to be coated in gold by the time he's done with this.
He's been known to do those kind of things.
All right, look, I think that it is time to move off of the Epstein topic.
That sucks, man.
It took a turn that I did not expect.
Dig that thesis out of there.
Well, Ian, I want to kind of help you a little bit.
Like I do understand what you're trying to say,
but at the end of the day,
I guess the court of public opinion,
even if they slept with a 17 year old,
like it's not gonna be, you know, it's not gonna be okay.
If this list were released,
I think that there are people that would be willing
to start a nuclear war to prevent it from getting released.
Like these families. That's possible.
And I don't want them to be that afraid
of getting their name exposed,
being associated with Epstein. What about the conspiracy that nuclear weapons are fake? Have you ever heard that? Like these families. That's possible. And I don't want them to be that afraid of getting their name exposed. Do you think me?
Being associated with abstinence.
What about the conspiracy that nuclear weapons are fake? Have you ever heard that?
You know what? I don't know.
Okay, no, no, no. The guy, guy, the nuclear weapons are fake.
Listen, listen. Have you ever seen the footage of an incident?
Yes, I know what you're talking about.
And the car is there, then it's gone.
Okay, why is the car? Oh, I'm the crazy guy. They're showing me a video with a car disappearing.
Oh, I'm the crazy guy. You don't get nuclear weapons.
No, because nuclear, because Nagasaki actually happened. First of't think nuclear bombs are real. Because Nagasaki actually happened.
First of all, there was firebombs.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki, there were literally trains the next day.
The flower carts were there the next day. You can look it up.
But this is how you know nuclear bombs are not real.
Because if nuclear bombs are real, Israel would have already dropped one, dude.
You don't think Israel would have used it?
I mean, you know what I mean? Am I crazy're going yes, you are we're going to the next story
From the got from the Guardian from the Guardian Democrats condemn CBS for axing Colbert show people deserve to know if this is politically
Motivated lawmakers note cancellation follow Colbert's criticism of parent company paramount for settling the Trump suit
Democrats are condemning CBS for its recent decision
to cancel the Late Show with Stephen Colbert,
noting the news comes just a few days
after its host criticized the network's parent company,
Paramount, for settling a $16 million lawsuit
with Donald Trump.
Senator Adam Schiff, who everyone knows is totally
truthful, a California Democrat who appeared as a guest
on The Colbert Show on Thursday night, later wrote on social media, if Paramount and CBS ended
the late show for political reasons the public deserves to know and deserves
better. This show, if I understand correctly, cost a hundred million
dollars per year to run and they lose forty40 million a year. How?
What do they spend it on?
That's what I want to know.
Well, 16 on a lawsuit that they lost to Trump.
Yeah, well, there you go.
Well, I don't understand that they lost all their money.
They have those dancing needles.
Pfizer paid them so much money.
I mean, I don't know how the hell they lose money,
but I guess the vaccine money.
You may be making a joke,
but I honestly think that a lot of the drug companies
were spending a lot of money.
Those are the biggest ad buyers. And that's why in foreign countries in Europe, they don't even have advertisements for pharmaceutical companies,
because it's illegal, and RFK supposedly outlawed that, not done that yet.
But I think there is something here, though. The fact that they're trying to merge with Skydance Media,
and they just paid Trump that $15 million settlement.
Talk about the Skydance Media thing. Well, and it has to get approved by Congress, I believe, so it's not a monopoly.
I don't know all the legality, but I just know that Donald Trump probably could handicap
their chances of making the merger happen.
So why not make them happy?
And you already have a show that is- what is it?
Paramount is also seeking approval from the US Federal Communications Commission for an
$8.4 billion merger with Skydance Media.
Whoa.
So that's a huge merger.
Paramount's obviously a huge company.
And I think that they have a show
that's losing $40 million a year
and why not try to appease the president?
I also think that they were using Colbert
as political propaganda through the Biden administration.
Now he's no longer useful.
You're right about that.
So that was one of the things that I said,
people that are saying that this is a political attack, right?
Like he has engaged in political attacks for the entire time that Donald Trump has been in, you know, in political life, in public life.
So I personally don't think that this is about politics. I do think that this is about the fact that ratings are down.
These shows have been losing money.
There's not a significant viewership to the late night shows.
If you look at late night ratings now compared to ten years ago,
it's completely awful.
But, I think that that's the major thing.
What are you talking about, the Bernie Sanders stuff here? Oh, he's not my boy
Bernie Sanders the independent Vermont senator echoed a similar concern CBS billionaire owners pay Trump 16 million to settle a bogus lawsuit
While trying to sell the network to Skydance
He wrote Stephen Colbert an extraordinary talent and the most popular late-night host slams the deal days later. He's fired
No, I do think this is a coincidence, or do I think this is a coincidence?
No.
I mean, look, Democrats have absolutely nothing.
They're floundering.
That's why they're globbing onto the Epstein stuff.
That's why they're globbing onto this because they have no policies and the people that
are making the most noise and getting the most attention in the Democrat party are literally
communists. Right? So Zora and Mamdani, there's the guy in Minnesota I believe
that's running for... Somalia Pirate. Yeah, Somali guy. Yeah. And AOC, I mean your favorite.
My favorite big booty Latina. You know honestly though AOC is probably now with
this new crop of people she's smart like Jasmine Crockett is actually mentally
retarded. You know what I mean? I don't know if you ever see her she is she's like ill in the head. So compared to AOC she's actually pretty smart. Like Jasmine Crockett is actually mentally retarded. You know what I mean? I don't know if you ever see her.
She's like ill in the head.
So compared to AOC, she's actually pretty smart.
So this is something that Tim actually pointed out.
Jasmine Crockett is not stupid.
And the reason-
She went to law school.
She's like, has a brain.
But she went, she goes and there are old videos of her
and she doesn't sound as ratchet as she sounds nowadays.
Yeah, it's called code-switching. You know, she's talking like, you know, very elegant.
Do you think that she's actually dumb though?
I do think that she's actually not that smart because she's a woman, one, and you know women
aren't as smart as men. Two, she's like, you know, trying to just, she doesn't have, this
is the difference between her and AOC. AOC is crazy, but I believe that she's more genuine
in her thoughts.
Jasmine Crockett, if she, if her being conservative
would help her politically,
I guarantee she'd become conservative.
You think so?
No, Jasmine Crockett, she has no integrity.
I think there's the amount of integrity in AOC
is a lot more than Jasmine Crockett.
Jasmine Crockett, which is, she's just a, you know,
a politician that's about self-preservation
and she'll say anything and go after Marjorie Taylor Greene,
just like Marjorie goes after her for a click.
So I think she just has no integrity.
So she's not even from Texas.
That's what makes me mad is I actually have an office
in her district.
She's from like Kansas City or something, like Missouri,
Kansas City, Missouri, I think.
So I don't know, I don't like people.
Carpet bagger.
Exactly, I don't like some carpet bagger coming in my house
with a bad weave and fake eyelashes
and talking a bunch of smack about Donald Trump.
Do you think that if she were to be, say she came out as a Republican, right?
The Republicans would accept her right away.
Oh, we love her, yeah, right away.
That's what I assume is like, you know, she kind of breaks the mold of what a typical
Republican would be.
She'd be the keynote speaker at CPAC the next week.
For sure they'd accept her.
Because that's the other thing is people want to call
conservatives racist, but conservatives go out of their way
to help black people and women,
which is, there's nothing wrong with that.
Like I joke about women, women obviously are smart,
we should help them.
But I'm telling you, all the accusations that the left make
about the right, they actually do.
They're the ones that actually discriminate people
based on color when, if you're a black conservative,
I think that conservatives want to lift you up more. Yeah I mean that's honestly my sense too. That's why I question whether or not she's actually
being disingenuous because if she were really just power hungry and after accolades and stuff,
a black woman like her actually would get more in the Republican party than then she does in
the Democrat party. Isn't that kind of the argument?
Well, I don't...
I mean, I feel like all the stuff she talks about, though, I don't even know really a
lot of her policies.
I just know that she doesn't like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
I know that she doesn't like Trump.
So politically, I don't even know how...
Is she a socialist?
I don't know.
I mean...
I don't know what her policies are.
I'm just saying, I don't know.
And she's my congresswoman. I I don't know what her policies are. I'm saying I don't know and she's my congresswoman
I don't even know what her policies are. So I feel like she's not she doesn't care about actually getting like legislation passed
She just cares about getting clicks on the internet
And that's why she doesn't have integrity is another reason that she doesn't actually care about getting anything accomplished
But I think all congressmen you guys have them on here all the time. I talked to him too
They all have the best intentions, but once they get up there, they can't get shit done. So it's like, I mean, you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.
Like if you try really hard, you don't get a pass and you waste your time.
If you just kind of skate through, then you're not doing enough.
So I don't know, I don't like any of the elected politicians, even a lot of them on the right
side.
Man, I was thinking that yesterday about Cash and like, he comes on this show, I hang out
with him for four hours, he's super cool.
And then I'm like, all right, he's like, all right, I'm going in.
I'm like, I'll see you on the other side, he's super cool, and then I'm like, all right, he's like, all right, I'm going in.
I'm like, I'll see you on the other side, man.
And he got off into Mount Doom, they go,
he and Trump and Bungee, they all like go into this new,
this world where they're gonna get twisted
and ripped apart and remade with this satanic dark energy
of government where you gotta do damage control
and decide who's gonna live and who's gonna die.
And then they come out all gray hair.
And it's just, it's hard to see people I like go through that but it's this necessary evil
of being in being in that environment that's sort of a tangent off of what you're saying.
It's the Bill Hicks joke that you know like when a president gets elected they bring him to a room
and they show them I'm not doing the joke right but they show them a film of JFK's assassination
but not this impruder film like a different angle and they tell the president they show in the
video like do you have any questions and the president's like no I have no questions.
So well once you get into that office you do have to play ball even Donald
Trump has to play ball on some stuff. For sure. I mean I think so yeah. Do you have
a sense that the average politician, so just to make it clear, my kind of gut instinct,
because I don't have any kind of inside information,
is Congress people don't get that kind of pressure.
They might get a knock on their door from AIPAC,
actually I'm sure they get.
Multiple knocks.
Yeah, a bunch of people from AIPAC knocking on the door.
But other than that, that's probably
the most pressure they get.
I think that it's the bureaucrats
and the actual president that would get.
Or there's aliens that come down and they say,
we're abducting the children.
Stop talking about the Epstein list.
That's us, and we're doing interdimensional sex
trafficking.
Maybe.
Is that real? That's a very mainstream trafficking. Maybe. Is that?
That's a very mainstream theory, so.
That's a very mainstream, isn't a mainstream theory.
Interdimensional sex trafficking, I like that.
Okay.
Alex Jones talks about it a lot on the Joe Rogan experience.
But I do think there are probably some sort of like
weird interdimensional beings though.
You know, I know that sounds crazy.
I don't know how connected they are to the Epstein list,
but like, I feel like if there are ghosts or aliens,
like it's not that they're traveling from far away,
they're just in a different dimension here on earth.
Well, I asked a Twitter poll,
did the ghost of Epstein destroy the spirit of Donald Trump?
It's a 50-50 split on the poll.
Do you, like the spirit of Epstein,
the ghost of Epstein is still here present.
His spirit is terrorizing people.
The memory of it is a bit of a-
You might be right,
because I have a dog that barks a lot.
And so I got one of these clickers and you press it
and it's like, gives off this high noise
and then my dog will stop barking.
And it's crazy because I can't hear the noise,
but my dog freaks out.
And there's wavelengths and sounds that our eyes
and ears can't process that are around us every day.
Like there's noises that are going on.
You and I can't hear, but a dog can hear.
So theoretically, like our eyes can't see every
one of wavelength or whatever.
There could be people around us right now
that we just don't have the ability to see that or hear that.
Like magneto reception,
where you can see the magnetic field and stuff.
I get, I mean, there-
Watch the distortions of the spirits and things like that.
That would go-
Check this out, okay. So I just looked this up, Donald Barr, he hired Jeffrey Epstein as a
teacher in 1973. He wrote a novel called Space Relations, a slightly gothic
interplanetary tale and it includes interdimensional sex. Could that be what
the one that is Bill Barr's father? And we know Donald Barr, could that be the one who wrote the letter? That is Bill Barr's father. Donald Barr. Could that be the guy who wrote the letter that Trump is suing them because they said he wrote it?
And if we're gonna go real crazy, Donald Trump is a time traveler and the movie Back to the Future is kind of based off him.
Biff becomes a casino host.
And then Barron Trump. Have you seen the Barron Trump novel?
Oh, Barron's a time traveler.
Barron's a time traveler. Look at the book. What is it called?
It's somebody in the chat will know.
Oh, I remember this.
Barron's time traveling book.
Let me type it in.
It is Barron's.
I've heard about them.
Yeah.
And then it was Donald Trump's uncle who went to Nikola Tesla.
When Nikola Tesla died, this is the conspiracy
that when Nikola Tesla died, all of his,
he was kind of broke.
His inventions, he wasn't able to make that much money with it for whatever reason. his, he was kind of like broke, his inventions like, he wasn't able
to make that much money with it for whatever reason, I guess he was persecuted by the government,
but somebody was in charge of going and looking at all of his research and stuff, and that person
happened to be Donald Trump, Donald Trump's uncle. Did you guys know this? John Trump.
Or whatever, yeah, I think John Trump, I think so. JT. And that's what they say, that they got the
time travel technology, and then if you look at Back to the Future, these people, they make these YouTube videos
where it's like Back to the Future's, you know, this coded movie for Donald Trump's
time traveling experience.
And it's just weird because the movie is based off Biff in the movie.
The character even said this, I think Ivan Reitman or whoever did, I forget who was the
director, said it is based off Donald Trump.
That's awesome.
My question is, what is interdimensional sex trafficking?
How is it, what is happening?
Is it that people are being,
their minds are being warped by like some external source
and then they're trafficking the children
and they're doing the bidding of some,
is that the idea or is it literally like aliens
are beaming children up to spaceships
and having sex with them, like what's the argument?
Kevin, you wanna take this one?
Closest to the topic?
Yeah, you know, I didn't wanna be that close to the topic,
but I think we should ask the chat here,
I'm at the Tim Kaz member IRL Discord chat,
so if anybody knows in here,
please tell us what you think it is.
Well here, let me read this. In this, uh, in, uh, okay. In 1988, a publication of Baron
Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey, and in the book, it was about a character named
Baron Trump and his guide is named Dawn. Now, I've heard that that book got wrote
later. Like, it's more recent, but they just make it look like
it's an old book?
This is saying it came out in 1896.
Or 1888.
That's what it says in the book, I believe,
is dated back to then.
But then all of a sudden, it just appeared,
like, in the lexicon in the modern mind,
like, five years ago or something.
It's like the Mandela effect.
Is it real or is it fake?
So, all right, listen, we're gonna go ahead
and move on from the interdimensional sex trafficking.
And time travel.
And the reason is because if we don't,
Shane Cashman is gonna come up here
and beat us all for stealing his thunder.
But we're gonna go to, you know, cause IWL, you know.
Sex.
We're gonna go to, where is it, Let's see, from the post-millennial,
Puerto Rico bans all medical sex changes
for people under 21.
Minors, having not yet reached the necessary emotional,
cognitive, and physical maturity,
are particularly vulnerable to making decisions
that can have irreversible consequences.
Puerto Rico has banned sex change surgeries
for those under the age of 21
and blocked public funds from being used for such purposes.
Governor of the US Island Territory,
Jennifer Gonzalez-Colón,
signed the bill into law on Wednesday.
The bill would see fines of $50,000 per violation
issued to healthcare professionals
who provide hormone therapy or sex change surgeries as well as
15 years in prison prison and the revocation of licenses and permits per NBC News
the law states
Minors having not yet reached the necessary emotional cognitive and physical maturity are
Particularly vulnerable to making decisions that can have irreversible consequences
Therefore it is the state's duty to ensure their comprehensive
well-being and I say bravo Puerto Rico why the rest of the United States and
its territories have not already passed these laws I don't know but I think this
is something that the United States the federal government should pass for all of the US and its territory.
Well I think there's a bigger question. Who is that desperate to cut off their penis? They're going to a doctor in Puerto Rico.
I mean seriously, I mean they go to a real doctor, you know what I mean? What are they going to do?
This is the back of a taco truck? Oh I'm going to go to Puerto Rico and have them cut off my wiener.
Like dude, give me a break. I mean gosh almighty, good thing they outlawed him because I wouldn't want a Puerto Rican doctor cutting off my
genitals no offense to Puerto Ricans to that big booty Latinas but I wouldn't
want I wouldn't want any kind of doctor doesn't yeah I know I'm not I'm not a
racist so I whatever I'm not a racist I love big booty Latinas I'm just saying
Puerto Rico or you want a doctor that went to loss or went to medical school
online I mean no I want a real doctor that went to a brick and mortar school I
agree I would agree for other Puerto Rico want a real doctor that went to a brick and mortar school.
I agree.
I would agree for other-
Puerto Rico being a state, it's not really a state,
but Puerto Rico is still a shithole.
I mean, I love you, Puerto Rico.
I've been to Puerto Rico.
Puerto Rico is not this nice place.
Dude, Puerto Rico had a hurricane
and I was in Puerto Rico recently.
I'm not even kidding.
Beautiful place.
Everybody goes there to dodge their taxes.
That's what it's for, basically, just to, you know, and hey, hey, I love that. I think taxes are a scam. I know some people
that have dodged their taxes in Puerto Rico. So Puerto Rico, first of all, is the last
place you want to get any kind of surgery, unless you're like trying to get a BBL or
something for 50% off. But I'm serious. So them outlawing sex change, that's just, they
should just outlaw surgery in Puerto Rico altogether. It should be only life-saving
surgery. Does the US government neglect, um, neglect the Puerto Rico?
Is that why it's suffering so terribly right now?
Yeah, like they had a hurricane and the traffic light still wasn't working.
And this is, I stayed at the Fairmont hotel, really nice hotel.
They're like, oh yeah, the light just hasn't been fixed.
They're like, really?
It's just, it's not like that third world, but it's not first world.
It's closer to, I mean, it's, Puerto Rico is like Jamaica or something. Maybe it's a little nicer, but it's like first world. It's closer to, I mean, Puerto Rico's like Jamaica
or something, maybe it's a little nicer,
but it's like a beached colony.
It's not like New York City.
It's the opposite of that in my opinion.
So if you're going to Puerto Rico to get surgery,
you're, yeah, that's not a good,
that's a losing proposition I would say.
Is AOC from Puerto Rico?
Her abuela is, and then her roof flooded,
and then we all raised money for her,
and then AOC wouldn't take the money,
because AOC is. It was conservatives that raised the money. The conservatives raised for and then AOC wouldn't take the money because AOC is
It was conservatives that raised the money conservatives raised money, and she wouldn't take it for a boiler in Puerto Rico
No, AOC's from New York
She went to a she grew up in a very nice area of New York
She tries to play it off that she came from the Bronx or area in New York
But she didn't she she came she grew up Sandy Cortez grew up in the in a very night and went to school in a very nice area of New York
But I mean so I mean is it is it something that the Puerto Rican government shouldn't be involved in or is this what this?
This is well, what do you guys over 18? I feel like you got to let their adults, so I don't see why you would
I feel like you gotta let their adults so I don't see why you would
ban them from making medical decisions the over 18 that argument for the argument for that is the
basically your your prefrontal cortex has not developed enough to
Control your basically your your decision-making your your emotional brain. So you're sure
That is actually true. It's like your brain actually finishes developing somewhere around 25.
So at 20, when you're 18,
even though you're an adult technically,
you're prone to be more reactive
and make decisions based on emotion
more than on actual thought about it.
And the repercussions don't really,
they don't really register with people that,
like how, what forever is and what permanent really means
the same way they do with someone over 25.
Were you gonna say something?
Oh, I was just wondering if it was the same for women
because they always say like, girls mature faster.
Is their brain like, you know,
does it reach that level earlier?
And if so, do the laws reflect that?
I've never actually looked into it,
but I know that when it comes to like renting a car,
the reason you can't rent the car until you're 25
is because of these studies
that insurance companies have done.
They say, okay, people under 25 make bad decisions because they haven't matured enough.
And when you look at the actual science behind it, they haven't matured enough because their prefrontal cortex hasn't fully developed.
And I agree with that because like when you're 21, you're still a kid.
I know that seems people like, no, you're really adult.
I mean, you're really a kid until 25.
Like that, I think 25 actually is the age when I was kind of like, oh shit, I'm almost 30.
Like that is kind of the age
when I technically started considering myself,
like I'm actually an adult.
People are gonna like make fun of me for that,
but that's when I was like, oh shit,
like this is, I am an adult adult.
So yeah, that makes sense that,
the fact that it's 21 though, I kind of do agree.
Like 18, I wanna be able to have a gun.
I should be able to, you know, cut off my penis, I guess I mean if that's there's gonna be an age restriction. That's actually yeah
Why would they see that to get like not do gun control at that age too or whatnot?
You know we debate the trans people a lot
But I just want to say that like I don't I don't hate the trans like I like the trans people
I don't like the transitioning of children and like there's a lot of conservatives that want to outlaw like
Transgenders and women's sports. I think that's stupid because you can gamble on transgenders
and win money. You know I'm serious like Leah Thomas I won so much money. Literally from the
Olympics that transgender I won like two thousand bucks. I'm dead serious. Yeah you can gamble on
them and this is the other thing is like Donald Trump is trying to outlaw transgenders in the
military. I disagree with that because transgenders I think would make good soldiers. They're they're like some of the meanest people on earth
They're they carry they like to carry out mass shootings. They do that all the time
they have done like the last six and
There a lot of more suicidal, you know what I mean and a
Soldier that's willing to die for his country is probably the best soldier you could have.
So I'm pro-trans.
I love the trans people.
I think that we, I think we, I give them, we give them almost too tough of a time.
I just, I like these laws in place to stop children from getting these.
That's where I kind of stand.
So I tend to agree with you on the 18.
Oh man, same way with doing drugs.
I wouldn't want to advocate someone to give kids drugs, but if you're 22 and you want
to do drugs, go for it.
That's my argument with that. Do they have a limit for age though with drugs? I don't think so.
I mean depends on what drug and what you're talking about. If you're talking about like marijuana it's just I
believe it's 18 possibly 21 depending on the jurisdiction where it's legal. Is it
18? Okay yeah so it's it's 21 recreational 18 medical I
Was just looking at most of Europe here most of them have it at 18 Scotland has 16 talking about for
Transitioning hmm, so Europe's kind of on the consensus of around 18 So they're they're going a little hard with 21 in Puerto Rico 21 is interesting
Morally, I understand it but legally it makes no sense. I think 21 is fine. Morally I understand it, but legally it makes no sense.
I think 21 is fine. Honestly, I mean, we should be doing everything we can as a
society to disincentivize and discourage transitioning, because I
think that it... well first of all, because you cannot become a woman if you're a man.
Well be careful on YouTube, you can become whatever you want.
But I want to say this, though.
No, you can say it.
It's OK nowadays.
Well, it wasn't that long ago.
And I used to be a Howard Sterns fan.
Now he stinks.
But he used to do this thing with Dr. Sal Calabro,
where people could win breast implants.
And sometimes he would have a trans person
to win the breast implants.
And he would have the trans person on.
It was very funny.
But he would always ask them.
This is the 90s, early 2000s.
Like, have you got the bottom surgery? Are you post-op or pre-op? you would always ask them, this is the 90s, early 2000s, like, have you got the bottom surgery? Are you post op or pre op? You'd always ask them. And they would always say,
I'm pre op, I'm pre op, because I can't go to a surgeon, you know, there's only very few surgeons.
This is the early 2000s. They're like, there's not very many surgeons in America that will do
this surgery. I have to go to a foreign country and it's not safe there. And then if you look
at the amount of gender reassignment clinics in the 80s compared to now, and then you have,
you know, billboard Chris that you know, that released an Anlibs or TikTok,
a video of Boston Children's Hospital saying that they love a child diagnosed with gender
dysphoria because they have a patient for life.
There's a medical incentive to transition these people.
So until we until we stop our for profit medical system, this is never going to stop, Phil.
That's right.
That's right.
Was stop our for profit medical system.
I mean, actually, that's one thing that I'm not too
conservative. I wish we had caps. I wish you could put a lot of caps on our
healthcare system. But I'm saying if we have a healthcare system that is a
capitalistic system, they're always going to use this gender reassignment, gender transition.
It's like how they give everybody an antidepressant. You go in there and say,
I feel sad. They give you a pill that is, you know, SSRIs and even some of the side effects cause suicidal tendencies.
So why would you give a suicidal person a pill that makes them more suicidal? So I'm
just saying the medical community does not care about keeping us healthy. They want to
keep us sick. And I think with this trans stuff, there's no better way than to diagnose
somebody as gender dysphoric, having gender dysphoria, and they will never be okay. I do agree that there are a lot of doctors and a lot of pharmaceutical companies that
are lobbying for these procedures and to keep these procedures legal, specifically because
it creates permanent customers.
If you have a transgender surgery, you are going to be on medication
for your entire life. And I agree about that, definitely. But I just think that it's totally
awful to allow this. I think that this stuff is going to be looked at like lobotomies in the future.
Oh, for sure. I think so too, actually. Yeah. Somebody that cuts off their wiener. I mean,
and I'm trying to be funny because that's the other thing is these and this is some of the sick people I talked to these D transitioners and I really appreciate all the people that have de transition and that are outspoken but if you cut off your genitals, your sexual satisfaction is not going to happen like anybody that says that they turn their penis into a vagina and that they can, you know, have any sexual gratification. Apparently, they've advanced that that's bullshit. And apparently they can get pleasure from it.
I know, dude.
You can get pleasure all sorts of ways.
I'm just saying it's not the same.
So what do you guys think about the argument?
So playing devil's advocate, what do you think
about the argument that, well, this is the early stages
of transgender surgery.
And whereas they'll never be able to make, they'll never be able to change the chromosomes,
they will be able to eventually produce genitals
that are functional in a way that normal people's
genitals are functional.
And this is the necessary first steps.
Are you talking like take cells, clone them,
and grow an oyster dish?
I grow a penis on your elbow and you use your own penis. Are you talking like take cells, clone them and grow an orange tree dish?
I grow a penis on your elbow and you eat your own penis.
So I don't know how it actually happens, but the point that I'm making is there are people
that are transhumanists that believe that in the future we are going to have bionic arms,
bionic eyes, you'll be able to either regrow or have mechanical appendages.
It's gonna be like Futurama or a head edition.
It'll be straight up like Luke Skywalker's hand.
And they're growing skin and muscle in the lab.
So, I mean, you can imagine that in a hundred years,
they'll be able to replace people's arms with a mechanical arm that actually has their own skin,
like grafted or grown in the lab, covering it.
Maybe it'll be a robotic skeleton,
but you'll be able to grow your own skin and stuff.
What do you say to people that say,
this is just the first step of that stuff?
And we shouldn't outlaw it.
And again, I think we should,
but the point that I'm making is I'm just to play devil's advocate what do you say to those people that these are the baby
steps because there's you know there's a neural link that they're working on now computer chips
in the brain etc these things are all possible now and these are the first steps to make them
widespread. Well it's terrifying and I think God puts you in the body you're meant to be in but what I think might happen is they actually grow a body for
you and then move your consciousness from the male body to the female clone
or something like that. I think that would be more realistic. Or really if
they have the neuro link you don't even need a body like you'll just be like
intubated in a tube and then you'll be living in a computer fantasy like Vanilla
Sky. It's kind of like by the time we get to that point it will be like intubated in a tube. And then you'll be living in a computer fantasy like Vanilla Sky. Yeah, it's kind of like by the time we get to that point,
it will be like a non-thought anymore.
It's just like, I mean, you could technically
regrow a penis that you could put back on
if you would decide to untransition yourself
if you had gone that route.
So at that point, it's like, why do any of it?
I don't know.
Well, I think that I'm all about body modification in general,
if you want to, I find it not attractive. But doing it on kids
isn't the way to test it. If this is the early stages of
figuring out not that's not the way to do it.
I don't I don't think that that was I think my my wasn't your
question. But my point is more about just what about adults that
want to do? Yeah, that's cool.
I support it, but man, that gross shit,
when that gets into the kids' minds
and then the kids are start to toad
like you're supposed to do that,
that's real bad, and that doesn't help the cause.
Well, and I just think there's some science,
the eyeball, doing surgery on eyes are so difficult.
I think that's gonna be similar to a penis.
Yeah, because it goes in.
It's got an internal stuff.
You can create a thing that is close to a penis,
but it will always be like 95% of a penis.
So I don't think that's possible.
I don't think, unless it's grown in a lab,
I don't think you can make an artificial thing that will have
the same sexual gratification as the real thing.
I just don't think that's possible.
It's like a quantum leap, like way past the norm.
Ever?
Ever.
I don't think so, ever. Unless we can actually clone people like unless you can just make the whole entire
Human body. I don't know if you can make an external penis and add it to your regular penis
I mean, I just I don't know it's a lot more than the external stuff
It's a big problem with the movement that they think that if it's the way you look that that makes you what you are
But it's all the internal workings that you don't see
that participate in creating what your penis does
and how it is.
It's not just what you see and what's on the outside.
What do you guys think,
do you think that transitioning is trying to,
and making that normalized,
is trying to make transhumanism something?
Of course, 100%.
It comes from the, it's like, this is even demonic,
it's in the Bible, like Baphomet, you know, and whether you guys believe in God or not, the evil
people that rule the world, like they are into Christianity. So they're Satan.
Like that's, they know the Bible. The people that are Satanists actually know
the Bible better than a Christian a lot of the time. That's true, yeah. And so that's
what they look at like Baphomet and some of these demonic characters are, you know,
it's like a physical male with the male abs and then female breasts. So there is this weird thing where they say in the future, if we live long
enough, we'll all be one race and we'll all be one sex. So there is a move towards that,
the merge.
It feels dark. There's something about it that seems dark.
Androgyny. And then there's Andromeda, which is that...
That's a galaxy.
And it sounds very similar to androgyny. I don't know if it's a similar, they do that for a reason.
You can Google the root word andro.
Yeah, andro.
And that's also, it would be the,
or android is a derivative of that.
Android, androgynous, andromeda,
like what are they aiming us at right now?
I see this transhumanist thing as full,
it's in full gear right now.
Yeah, full gear.
It's gonna be mainstream. Well, it's led full gear right now. Yeah, full gear. It's gonna be mainstream.
Well, it's led by billionaires like Elon Musk,
and well, the people that they say
the motivation behind the trans,
you know, people wanna live forever.
That's the motivation to the transhumanistic movement.
It's like these really rich people wanna live longer,
and I think that people are more motivated
to do that than ever, so I think that's why,
selfishly, Elon Musk is into Neuralink,
because he wants to hook his brain up to a computer
so his brain will work forever.
So he lives forever.
Living forever is, I was just thinking about this,
okay, inbreeding.
Because if you're 180 but you have the body of a 35 year old
and then you have these hot great great granddaughters
that are also 35.
Okay.
All right, we're gonna, all right, hold on.
I'm just gonna mess with people, dude.
I'm literally gonna move on. We got one more segment and then we're gonna, we're gonna, all right, hold on. We're gonna, we're gonna. That's gonna mess with people, dude. I'm literally gonna move on.
We got one more segment,
and then we're gonna talk about the,
we're gonna talk about the,
the, the, the, um.
Film. Yeah, anyway.
So, from the Post-Millennial.
Misguided Keeping Families Together Act
linked to increase in child mortality in Washington State.
A disturbing rise in child deaths and near fatalities across Washington State has ignited
intense backlash against the controversial Keeping Families Together Act, with critics
accusing the law of keeping vulnerable children in dangerous homes with drug-addicted parents
under a misguided attempt at family preservation.
During a four-hour meeting on Thursday,
the Washington State Department of Youth, Children,
and Families Oversight Board was presented with grim data
from the Office of the Family and Children's Umbuds.
OFCO Director Patrick Dowd revealed that 45 children died
or nearly died between April and June of 2025,
just too fewer than the already alarming 47 cases reported in
the first quarter.
Dowd said the deaths are part of a growing trend his office could no longer ignore.
We didn't want to give the impression that things are getting better when in fact we
had preliminary information for 2025 that might paint a very different picture, Dowd
told the board.
We wanted to paint a picture of where things were headed.
Who would have thought that if you allow heroin-using parents
to keep children in houses with them,
that there would be a rise in the mortality rate?
This seems shocking to me.
But Devil's Advocate, I mean, do you
trust these child advocacy groups?
More than heroin addicts, yes.
Yeah I would agree with that, but still these, I don't know, some of these groups are just
...
Look, the whole Pacific North, you're from Washington, right?
Yeah, I was about to say, I've interviewed a lot of homeless people and drug addicts,
check it out on YouTube, 6-7 Kevin Drugs of the City to see these documentaries, where
there's actual interviews of these moms that have had their children taken away and then
they said the children have been trafficked by these groups and
You know, I don't know what it's like
But these children also have a connection to the mother and you're ripping the child away from the mom
And I heard these stories where the mom mom and the child they would
Find each other like the child would run away from the protective service to find the mom every day and stories like that
So if the services were better, I would agree
But I think that they're corrupt to the core too just from the stories that I've heard
Well, so you you've got seems you've got two options, right?
You've got keeping children with the drug-using parents or the state takes them. And the state, which is, you're articulating
terrible results with that as well, which is worse?
That's the question.
Yeah, it's always picking of two evils.
That's everything.
Look, Thomas Sowell says that there are no actual solutions,
there are trade-offs.
And everything, and that's a legitimate argument.
There's never going to be a perfect solution for anything.
You're going to do something
and there's going to be externalities
and then you have to make a decision,
were the externalities worse than before you started
whatever policy that you're dealing with.
And you make a good point, but here's the thing too,
you have to think of the emotional effect on the mother
and things like that because when they have their child
taken away, then they double down on the drugs, you know,
and the overdose and things like that
because that's their connection to life at that point.
And sometimes that transforms their lives.
When they see the child, they're like,
I'm gonna do less drugs, you know, not all the time,
but having that child around I think is an inspiration
for people to be better.
So I used to be consider myself a libertarian and I was pro
legalization of most drugs
Because the argument was well, it's it's bad to interject the state and have police
Have to pick people up for doing drugs and you ruin lives because of it and I think that the evidence that
California Portland and Washington state or Portland and Seattle
have given us when you decriminalize
the actual really hard drugs,
I think that it's shown that's really what changed my mind
because not only do you end up with people doing drugs,
people that want to do drugs,
they can't function in a normal life.
So you get homeless people,
because if you're trying to get heroin all the time,
you always end up with a drug den.
If you watch Breaking Bad,
the houses that are in the show
are all based on what real drug dens
and houses of heroin addicts and opiate users and whatever
type of drug they use.
That is really representative of what their houses look like.
And it is not more compassionate to allow people to live on the streets or in filth
and do drugs than to put them in prison to get them to stop or put them into you know for put make it make make there be too much pressure for them to just sit around and
do drugs right so you have to tell they homeless people move along you can't
just sit here and you have to you have to say we're going to arrest you
because to allow them is to not just destroy their lives but it's also to
allow them to destroy neighborhoods and destroy the property
of other people and the property values of other people
and ruin the lives of people that just wanna go
to the park with their kids and et cetera.
So I used to be like that, but I'm not anymore,
and I'm interested in your take on that.
Oh, for sure, I think you're right on.
I met a ton of folks that they said prison saved their life,
that they were a drug addict, and when they went to prison,
that's when they were forced to get off the drugs.
And it was a terrible experience because they have like flu-like symptoms, their
diarrhea, you know, they feel terrible, but they weren't able to get the drugs.
And that's how they got off of it.
So I totally agree.
And then when you look at the Northwest, like you said, I did a documentary on
Portland because, you know, in Oregon, they legalized all the drugs there.
The repercussions of that is incredible.
We're still, it's still being felt
because addiction is still holding these people.
Well, I would argue it's the drugs fault though.
I know that sounds crazy because in,
there's a lot of people that use marijuana
that are successful, there's functioning alcoholics,
but now because of fentanyl,
because of the synthetic opioids that are just so available
and that are being smuggled in, it's just different.
Like if everybody was just smoking weed, the world would be a little dumber and slower,
but it wouldn't be as bad.
But now with these synthetic opioids that are just incredibly cheap, we're screwed.
And until we stop China from importing them, they're going to be in everything.
Because even if a person buys a Xanax, they buy a pain pill, it's all infected with fentanyl.
If you buy cocaine or whatever, that's phenol in it.
So I think the drugs have gotten so much worse recently
and that's kinda, not that drugs are ever good,
but like your position being more libertarian,
I think maybe in the 90s.
Not anymore.
Well, I'm saying not anymore, I don't agree with it.
But like, I think there was a time when it was like,
maybe we should be lesser on drugs,
when drugs weren't as hard.
Like, I remember the D.A.R.E. program,
like these drugs will kill you in one puff.
That wasn't true then, I don't think.
I mean, I guess there was Lin Bias, the famous basketball player that was draft
that did cocaine and overdose.
But now in this day and age, if you actually try a drug,
there is a high possibility there's fentanyl in it and you can die.
And that's not hyperbole.
Well, I interviewed a DEA guy recently and he told me there's seven to nine
different drugs that are inside of each different hit now that people are calling
fentanyl. Like XTC or whatever, or in the fent fentanyl I'm saying everything has fentanyl in it now
even if you buy a drug that you don't think's fentanyl there's fentanyl in it
yeah even in the fentanyl there's ten different drugs they call it fentanyl
but it's not even fentanyl anymore it's it's a mixture yeah of a bunch of
different of synthetics like like they're like right like a lot of people
that I used to like part of my friend group I have been to at least three funerals of people that have died
from heroin the first time they did it and it probably wasn't just heroin no
it wasn't just heroin because I remember when I went to college like I I don't
like pain pills that make me sick but that was like the Oxycontin era and that
was bad there's a lot of people that OD'd and died but it's exponentially worse
now but really actually we say all these stats there's over a hundred thousand fentanyl drug overdose this past year but there's exponentially worse now. But really, actually, we say all these stats. There was over 100,000 fentanyl drug overdoses
this past year, but there's actually over 100,000
alcohol-related deaths.
So actually, there's much more than that.
I think alcohol-related deaths, there's like hundreds of thousands.
So it's not including accident, car accidents.
Yeah, it's not.
I don't even think it includes accidents either.
So I'm saying alcohol really is the most dangerous drug,
but that's socially acceptable.
So when it comes to drugs, I kind of used to be like you two,
like, hey, we should probably almost a little decriminalized. But when it comes to drugs, I kind of used to be like you too,
like, hey, we should probably almost a little decriminalized,
but now in this modern era, now we need to,
we do need to help people though,
when they get arrested for this.
And the term drugs is so vague,
because it is especially with this divergence diaspora,
the fentanyl and weed,
completely different realms of chemical.
And that's like saying, how'd you get so fat?
Food, and be like, well, wait, Little vague let's specify what what food are you talking I would I
would push back on that yeah like literally like if you it's calories in
versus calories out always know cuz if you get absolutely 100% always
calories in versus calories out no it's not you cannot get fat if you do not
take in more calories.
Ian's gonna say that that's not true because you can eat a bunch of calories and can't gain weight.
You know what a calorie is? It's a unit of heat. It's produced by food in your body getting
chemically changed. So the vitamins in the food are also part of the transition. Point that I'm
making. You might have five calories from a piece of sugar or five calories from a piece of broccoli the different the point that
I'm the point that I'm making is if you take in more calories every day then you
burn you will get fat you will store it you will store that energy the heat will
be stored the energy because that's what heat is is energy the heat the energy
that you are taking in from those
calories, they will be stored in your body as fat. That is exactly how it works.
But Phil, you do know this.
It's not any more complex than that.
You are right. That's to the simplest point. But Ian, because Ian probably eats a lot of calories
and his body just, his metabolism is fast, right? So some people can't gain, like you and I can
probably gain weight. So that's why, you's why we have a different opinion than you.
That's 100% true.
The metabolic rate of people is different,
and someone's metabolic rate may be faster,
and their resting, their daily burning of calories
just from doing their normal activities
is higher than someone else's, that's true.
But if you lower the number of calories that you take in, you-
You don't take in calories, that's the thing.
You take in food and whether or not your body converts it
into energy is depending on how healthy your body is.
It's calories in, calories out.
Like if you take in less calories than you burn,
you're gonna lose weight.
It's just, that's just the simplest-
But just cause you eat the food
doesn't mean you're gonna burn it properly.
If your body is all fucked up-
Actually, he does have a point
cause celery has like negative calories where it takes your body more calories to burn the celery. I mean, that's that's true
I mean, so it takes more calories to chew but the
Stuff inside that takes your body more like well, there's just there's very little actual like fiber and calorie content in in
Celery is the point that you're making
Your your body processing it like picking it up chewing it swallowing it processing it through your digestive
digestive tract takes more calories to do than the actual piece of celery has
So yeah, that's so you're right. Like I'm not disagreeing with you
I kind of tight tangent and into food but we're talking about just being specific with drugs.
I'm kind of with you, Phil, about legalizing drugs. I kind of rode the same wave.
I still feel like weed should be legal. It stinks. I don't want people to smoke it in
private buildings. I like the smoking ban in general, but like edible and stuff. That chemical,
that whole, you know, the way they made it illegal was like William Randolph Hearst in the 1920s
had all the paper mills and he had a bunch of trees
and he wanted to get a monopoly on the paper industry.
So he made hemp, he got with Harry Anslinger in Congress
and got them to make hemp illegal
so that he could monopolize the paper industry.
They've wrote a bunch of stories
about how people would smoke marijuana
and like rape people.
Yeah.
And they, no, I swear, you look at it's, what is it called?
Reef of Madness.
Reef of Madness.
It was about that, they made, if you smoke marijuana,
you're gonna go and have schizophrenia.
Yeah.
That was William Randolph Hearst.
It's a potent chemical for sure, but I think that.
Well, what's worse now is the Delta 9.
It's a synthetic weed.
I mean, have you ever had Delta 9?
I think so.
It is gross.
It's nasty.
I tried it, Delta 9 or Delta 8? I think so. It is gross. Like I asked like I tried it.
Yeah, it's a nine or Delta eight or what any of the synthetic marijuana.
It's it was it called spice once like 10 years ago.
Well, that's different.
That stuff's really bad.
But but but like I had a CBD sponsor.
I'm like this CBD gummies don't get you high.
No, they actually get you high and they're terrible for you.
And it's not like a clean high.
It's like anything with synthetic weed in it, it's gross.
But that's what China, that's how they're able to smuggle
in the fentanyl.
In their country, these, I guess like these,
they're not a pharmaceutical company
because they're making fentanyl.
What they do is they can add a chemical compound to it
to make it legal.
So it's like fentanyl, yada, yada, yada, plus this element.
So it's like how they make synthetic marijuana,
the Delta A, they add another chemical. So it's like how they make synthetic marijuana, the Delta-8,
they add another chemical so it's not just THC, it's THC-A and that's how they have fentanyl,
they have like a fentanyl B. So legally they can manufacture it and send it there because
it's not technically the outlawed fentanyl that they make. So does that make sense? Like
they can add a compound to it and make it legally. So that's why all the fentanyl is
able to come to Mexico and that's why they're able to smuggle it up the border because in China, every time they shut one down, they just
make more fentanyl with some other chemical and then technically to the letter of the law, it's
legal for them to produce it. So that's what's happening with the synthetic weed is they get
this hemp and then they add chemicals to it. And yes, you have an effect where it makes you feel
like you're high, but it's not a good high.'s like, it just makes you feel kind of sick almost.
The healing properties of CBD are fascinating.
And that comes from just the plant itself,
the cannabidiol worth looking into.
All right.
We're going to go to this next story
about the immigration documentary
that Tim Kast and 6-7 Kevin
have produced, it's gonna be available on Monday,
July 21st, only on Rumble, and then after that premiere,
it's gonna be available only on timkast.com, is it, right?
It's gonna be on the website?
But we're gonna go ahead and show a little bit of that now,
and then we're gonna ask Kevin ahead and show a little bit of that now. And then we're going to ask Kevin to discuss it a little bit.
What was that?
Oh, yeah.
For those that think that.
You're back.
Is this you behind the camera, Kevin?
Yeah.
Hi, you are currently being deported.
For those that think that the Trump administration
is humane, the open borders are humane, you're a mob.
I think a lot of Americans, they have this thought,
America is the greatest country in the world.
Everyone wants to come here. Are the migrants thinking that after they come here?
No.
I'm American, I'm happy, it's okay, I'm not a problem.
They're not sending their best.
Two different ambushes on immigration federal officers.
You can just kill ICE agents, you know that?
Are you scared of all of these death threats?
Nah, I don't think it's them.
I wake up every day in the canister every day.
I think they shouldn't be in borders
in any part of the world.
I'm not running a popularity contest. I got a job to do.
So actually the documentary is only going to be available on Rumble so you have to sign
up for rumble.com
to see this after the debut on Monday.
But if you wanna go ahead and talk a little bit
about what your experience was like making this
and how you got into it.
Yeah, no, this was an adventure, man,
an adventure of a lifetime.
I had been reporting on the border
for the last three years or so,
but I wanted to do something more boots on the
ground and Tim was down for it. So I went through Panama, through the Darien Gap, followed
the journey of migrants, talked to deportees.
Can you talk a little bit about what it was like to go through the Darien Gap? Because
that is the, that's kind of the area where there is no actual road from South America
to North, to North America, correct?
Yeah, exactly. So the skinniest point in Central America is there in Panama on the Darien.
And ever since the conquistadors, people have been using it to cross through there.
So the same maps that the conquistadors were using are what the migrants use today, the
same trails up through there.
They're using those same old trails.
But now China, through the Belt Road Initiative, is building a road through the Darien Gap. They used used to call it tampon del Darien in the local language because it's literally the plug they kind of
But now because of this road it's going to allow for mass migration at a scale this good it's
Unprecedented so what Trump's done at the border he he has shut it down and that's verified.
You know, I've talked to border patrol agents.
It's true.
You know, talk to migrants all that, but he hasn't stopped the United Nations.
He hasn't stopped the European Union.
When I was in the Darien Gap, I saw these, it was dystopian.
It was like these giant camps that the United Nations made and that's what these migrants
are following as camps all throughout the Darien, Central up to the Mexico. Basically checkpoints paid for so they
get their food paid for the bus paid for and there's this whole train line
basically to go right into the United States. When they say they're walking
they're not actually walking are they? Through parts of it through like the
Darien and things like that. There's not a road they have to. Yeah I know but I'm saying so like I mean they're just literally just have I mean
I see the backpacks and you see them walking but how much of the Darien gap do you walk?
I mean, it's just like this is like the desert kind of I mean
River jungle 60 miles of the most dangerous jungle in the world and 10% of the migrants died on their journey
Going through there. There's was millions during Biden's time.
So there's just dead bodies everywhere.
Oh really?
No, did you saw a bunch of dead bodies?
I talked to the locals, they saw the dead bodies.
They'll just be like floating down the river
and they told me stories of just seeing like
dead infants floating down the river.
Cause there's separations that happen
between parent and child in the Darien,
a lot of trafficking that goes on.
And that was the other big part of this documentary
that I didn't go into it thinking it would be,
but we went after the missing migrant children.
There's hundreds of thousands of missing migrant children.
We found Walmart's just filled with children
and they're being dropped off to sponsors
that are not properly vetted.
So we went door knocking to see
where these kids were dropped off to. Isn't there like Catholic charities a lot of the times that are the ones that are doing a lot of
like picking up the kids? Yeah, so there's a lot of Catholic charities are involved. The United
Nations are involved and the cartels. Is Israel involved? They actually are. I was just joking,
but wow. It's the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society. Oh gosh. It's in the film.
They pay for the migrants to have support
going up through there.
In Panama, they're actually one of the largest funders
of mass migration.
Are you serious?
I'm not joking.
Are you trolling?
No, I'm not joking.
It's in the documentary.
I know it's a joking quote.
What do they call the Hebrew?
I have to watch on Monday.
The Hebrew, what is it called?
Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society.
Look it up, hias.org. And one of the major funders. The chat is having a conniption. Yeah, the chat's gonna
love that group. Wow. I didn't realize that. I was just kidding. I thought you're gonna say,
no, not really, but I didn't expect you to say, actually, Israel is the most important country
and the most powerful country when it comes to the illegal immigration that Darien got. Wow. I
didn't expect that answer. Particularly for Jews fleeing pogroms in Europe is what it was founded to help that.
It was founded as that and they kind of they took that idea of the exodus of the Jews from Egypt
and they kind of liken that to the Venezuelans and other migrants today.
Oh, that's good. That's really good.
They're not Jewish. They're not Jewish.
They're just Venezuelans with criminal history. That's good.
It's interesting because they actually brought in a lot of Muslim and potentially sleeper cells into the United States.
I wonder why they'd want that. I wonder why they'd want Muslim sleeper cells to come into the United States and attack Americans.
I wonder why Israel would want that. That's weird.
They're not attacking Israel that way?
Why would they make America feel like it has to defend itself and like start a war to defend itself. Why would they ever want?
Yeah, why would they ever want to demonize Muslim people as terrorists? I don't know. Wow, that's crazy
I did I didn't know I was gonna learn that today. I had no idea and I you know, I'd heard
conspiracies so what can you do me a favor and go on a little bit more about the
Learned about is it's those organizations like highest the United Nations that if we don't cut the funding to them
Mass migration will continue and that's what I was talking to a lot of the migrants that are I talked to deportees in Mexico
There's NGOs you're talking about right? Yeah, these are NGOs USAID was big behind this
Do you think that the defunding of USAID is gonna make a difference? Yeah, I actually went to four different gay only migrant shelters in Mexico.
Wait, what?
That were USAID funded.
Wait, what is going on? So now you're-
You're USAID funded.
You're at the Hebrew area, now you're at the gay area. What's going on at the border, dude?
This sounds kind of fun.
Not even at the border, it's down in the Darien Gap.
The Darien Gap doesn't sound that bad. You're the gay place. You're the Jewish place.
So what is it?
The gay place is shut down because USAID shut it down.
We got undercover footage of that,
where I told this guy to act gay and to go in there.
And they told him on camera that most of their funding
was from USAID and is now being cut.
And so those are being shut down.
Real quick, how do they test that you're gay?
You just say, I'm gay, and you kind of act feminine? Or do they make you show okay? How do they test that you're gay you just say I'm gay and like you kind of yeah
I'm in it or like do they like make you show them your wings
I don't watch the document you have to watch the document
Show you naked pictures of men and look at if you get a boner like what is going on?
This is unbelievable
I couldn't believe it either just the amount of money the taxpayers were have been putting into this
But the big thing is these migrants are waiting for the next election.
These giant organizations, these camps are still there
and on camera I get them saying,
we are maintaining these camps
just in case they need to be activated again in the future.
Which they will.
Well, but really, this is the one thing,
and I know conservatives get mad about this,
and I remember learning this as a kid,
that America is a melting pot. I don't think we should be
anti-immigration I mean I just I know that I know we're not I know I am for
now you're against all immigration I think that we should shut even legal
immigration down immigration for five five years or so until we can actually
have the people that are that have immigrated here allow them to actually
assimilate because the point you're making about melting pot, I agree, but the point of a melting pot was people
become American.
And the people that have come here-
I do think that's important.
Did it become American?
The people that have come here, they don't become American.
They actually are, they're setting up enclaves of their own culture and stuff.
It's called multiculturalism and it's really ripping Europe apart.
It's causing massive problems.
So I think that we should shut down immigration to the United States except for O-1 visas,
the not B one, or not each one, but the actual you've got a special talent visa.
Shut down immigration for five to 10 years and only exceptional cases get to come in
and then we can revisit it.
Yeah, well first of all, no, that's gay because that would mean less big booty Latinas in
this country so no but but you can't there are Latinas here to
give birth to more big booty Latinas. Listen we need a few immigrants. Okay
that's why I said a few but everyone calls me crazy and Donald Trump I've been
going around screaming you know for amnesty for big booty Latinas everybody
laughs about it they think I'm joking but then you see Donald Trump go on the
record and say hey listen if you work at a hotel he's wrong well but
listen this is why because Phil I know what you've done in some hotel rooms
you've done some nasty stuff okay you've been on the road you've done nasty
stuff in those hotel rooms and guess what you know Gloria from Guatemala came
in there and she cleaned all those sheets she washed it she did it for 50
cents on the dollar back of the bus it's not the it's not hotel rooms it's in the
back of the bus what do you mean the back of It's the back of the bus. It's not hotel rooms, it's in the back of the bus.
What do you mean the back of the bus?
The back of the bus.
Or whatever.
I know you did on Jordan.
I'm just saying, who's going to go clean a hotel room after Alex Stein farted into the
sheets all night?
Not a lot of people.
You need to be an illegal to do that.
I know that sounds crazy, but we need a couple of them.
I disagree.
What do you mean some flavor of life?
Yeah, I actually saw the maid when I walked out of my hotel room and she did not look
happy.
She was not happy. We're sitting on the same floor because my room's disgusting!
And working at a hotel and changing the sheets after people do god knows what in those hotel rooms is disgusting.
I think this is important for America though, Alex. I do.
To make white people do that?
No, no, no. To allow the people that have immigrated here to give them time to assimilate from America.
Well, I'll be honest. This is going to be racist as hell hell. This is not gonna get canceled, but I went to LSU.
And Louisiana has a lot more African Americans
than Hispanics, and I'm in Texas,
where if you go to McDonald's, it's all Hispanic workers.
You go to a Chinese restaurant, it's all Hispanic workers.
This stuff comes out fast.
This stuff comes out right.
Your order's right.
You go to Louisiana, you go to McDonald's in Louisiana,
good fucking luck in your order, you know what I mean?
And there's a reason why,
because the people that are working there are Americans,
but the job's beneath them, so they don't care.
The illegal immigrant, to them, their job at Burger King, they're like,
oh, I'm at Burger King, I get a uniform, I've never had a t-shirt,
I'm not good at acting, it's like, oh, I've never had a pair of shoes,
now I have Burger King shoes. They love it.
So I feel like Americans are jaded and they're not gonna do a lot.
Some of them will do this menial labor, but most people won't. And there is a difference when it comes to, and this is a person wearing a Burger King hat,
I don't care what you say, the illegal person that works at Burger King will, they might be
harder to understand, will do their job cooking the french fries and making the burger better
than Yolanda who's mad that her baby daddy is on Facebook cheating on her with her, you know, cousins.
So you think we need a small trickle of illegal immigrants
to cover some of the jobs.
Yeah, we need somebody to bring the weed in.
I mean, we need somebody.
That's the argument that the left makes,
and it's literally like, don't take away my slaves.
I agree, I got a maid, I got a housekeeper.
That's a false notion.
Listen, I think we should slow it down.
I think the guys, if you're a Trinidad Rugo,
we can slow out all the guys,
but what's a woman gonna do?
What is it? Have you ever, okay, all the hotels you ever stayed at, have you ever seen a male housekeeper at your hotel?
Oh, no, not in...
It's impossible! It's impossible!
There's never been a male housekeeper in the history of a hotel. Look at, chat! Check me right now!
Every single person watching this, you've all stayed in a hotel. How many of you seen a male
housekeeper? Zero.
They don't exist.
So this is why it's important.
We can keep the ladies, because they can do that crap.
The men, get out of here.
You know what I mean?
If you're a nine, you're fine.
I just do think that there is a difference.
And I have nuance.
I know we're talking a lot about nuance on this episode tonight.
There is nuance when it comes to illegal immigration.
And I don't think that this country should be totally against
immigration. I do think there's a way to do it right and I'm just talking about a
pause. I agree, Latinas are beautiful but I want it's a false notion about the
working thing. If you're suicidal. Let me tell you right now, this is in the documentary as well, I
investigated this. Most of the illegal immigrants, this is in the documentary as well, I investigated this.
Most of the illegal immigrants that came in in the last four years, they went into blue cities
and they received free money from the taxpayers. I got the documents for how much they were getting free housing,
they were getting cash benefits, they were getting food benefits.
I didn't say they should get social services. No, illegal immigrants should not.
A lot of these illegal immigrants came that, and they're not working.
But you shouldn't get free social services.
I totally disagree with that.
I'm talking about the people that are actually working,
because there's a difference.
There are illegal immigrants that went to the Roosevelt Hotel
and got a free hotel room.
Those people kick rocks the hell out of here.
But if you actually are coming here and you're working a job,
I think that is significantly different than coming
to America just for the social services.
There is a difference.
You know what I mean?
Well, Trump mentioned that, where
he's talking about Ammon Steeve for people that had worked
in the country for a while.
Who did he get that idea from?
Who did he get that idea from?
The guy that's been yelling Big Booty Latina
at AOC for seven years.
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Trumpinator 47 says, I love frog stew.
Good to know.
Frog stew?
Yeah.
Never had it?
I mean, I don't know.
I think it's frog leg stew.
I've had frog legs.
They kind of taste like chicken.
But one thing, Tim, I mean, Phil, what you said,
last night, though, they canceled the show.
Tim calls me.
He's like, hey, they canceled the show.
And I said, Tim, they're not going to bring it back.
We need to find another venue.
And I have to give Tim credit, because I was like, Tim,
they're not going to uncancel it.
And Tim's like, watch.
And Tim shared that tweet where the Antifa that
got Tim originally canceled, they got the event canceled,
they put the club's information.
They put the phone number.
They put the email address.
And once Tim shared it, that number,
they had to disconnect the number.
So they tried that one.
Then the email, they turned off the email.
But the one that put it over the top,
and this is why I want to personally say thank you,
because I'm going to be a part of the first episode
with Gavin and Matan next weekend,
I just want to say thank you because the people went on Google
and they started leaving these negative Google reviews.
And I didn't encourage you to do that.
Tim didn't tell anybody to do that.
But once their Google rating got so poor,
they immediately changed their tune.
And all of a sudden they're like,
you know what, you guys are uncancelled.
So if you guys maybe want to help them out,
maybe wait if they let us, if they don't recancel us,
maybe go back and leave some good positive Google reviews.
If I understand correctly, the information that I got
was that the actual owner
Was out of town.
Was out of town and didn't know.
And the manager said, oh, we're gonna cancel it
because they didn't know what to do.
They were getting all this negative,
these negative comments
or they were getting a lot of pressure.
And then when the owner came back into town,
she was like, absolutely not.
This show's going on and was very apologetic and stuff. I imagine that to have the bad
press from Tim is definitely not a good thing. You know, all the people that watch IRL and
Tim is a fairly well known personality, I think. Yeah. That's. That's an understatement I think but uh, but yeah, it is it is wonderful that that the show is the shows are back and
You know get your tickets that never happens canceled and uncancelled like that never that's weird
I've never seen that happen to 2025, you know 2025 and Tim pool don't mess with Tim
And I think DC they have that thing where they can't discriminate you based on your politically
Affiliation and Tim has about 25 lawyers. So I don't you know, they probably that thing where they can't discriminate you based on your political affiliation.
And Tim has about 25 lawyers.
So I don't, you know, they probably did not want to get involved with that.
All right.
So Raymond G Stanley said, if ticket was got refunded, need to buy again.
Okay.
He's talking about the show.
They refunded the tickets.
Yeah.
See, that's another thing that what a clusterfuck is like, I think they did refund the tickets. So now you do, I think you do have to go rebuy it. I think that is, yeah, that about the show. They refunded the tickets. Yeah, see, that's another thing. What a clusterfuck. It's like, I think they did refund the tickets,
so now you do, I think you do have to go re-buy it.
I think that is, yeah, that is the protocol.
It's a pain in the ass.
You do have to go get them.
I do think that, you know, it's important to obviously
go re-buy your tickets, but I think that
this particular issue, there's probably a lot of people
that are gonna be like, oh yeah, I wanna go now.
And yeah, there's gonna be protesters there.
So, you know, it's to make it a little more interesting.
So if you guys have never seen Antifa, come to DC
and come hang out with Antifa and the Pimp on a Blimp
and Tim Pool and Gavin Amaton.
It's in DC, isn't it?
It's in DC, DC.
I think it's near Capitol Hill, I think.
Yeah, so all right.
What do we got here?
What is this thing?
OK. All right, so let's see.
Taylor Lorenz's ex says, Alex, enjoy your best trans award from the Florida Young Republicans.
I'm going to steal it from you on the 8's 2 show now that it's back on.
And please roast me some more at the show.
It was exquisite.
Taylor Lorenz's ex is a trans man. Oh yeah, Taylor Lorenz's ex. It was exquisite. Taylor Lorenz's ex is a trend.
Oh, yeah, Taylor Lorenz's ex.
Yeah, we like Taylor Lorenz's ex.
She's a very friendly and right-wing trans woman,
and so, yeah, we are friendly with her.
And I've been trying to get them to join the military.
Like, crazy. No, I love them.
And once again, I love the trans.
Taylor Lorenz's ex, we tried to get you on stage last time.
You didn't come on stage.
So this time, you need to come on stage.
Do not be a chicken. Do not be a little scaredy cat.
Come on stage.
We encourage all trans people to debate.
Yeah.
Shane H. Wyler says,
"'Great job to all who emailed, called,
or memed their complaints about the live show.
Can't wait to heckle Stein on the second.
Shout out to Kellan Tate and Raymond
for fielding inquiries, y'all real ones.
So yeah, shout out to the behind the scenes people here.
Hey, that's another thing.
Kellan, Serge, these guys, they do not get enough credit.
They really are the best.
I think Serge over there works his butt off.
He makes it look easy, but it's actually very hard.
I'm not just saying that.
So directing this show is not easy.
And then Kellan, he's a badass all the way.
Dude, I wanna shout out Kellen
for helping with the documentary.
He was a lot of help just back and forth on that.
And then also Carter with the music, Carter Banks.
What's up?
It's been a pleasure making music for this documentary.
I got to see a lot of the scenes before they were cut
and never scored anything before officially.
So this was very, a lot of fun for me.
Oh, how was-
This is your first documentary how is that?
Yeah well it was crazy it was fun started with a Novation bass station and
just kind of melded notes together and used a lot of sounds like bullets and
different cartel sounds to make it more real and I don't know Kevin seems to
like it so. Did you just watch the movie and trance out and Here so we kind of it was a more of like a back-and-forth process
where Kevin would tell me what he was looking for and then he would give me clips and I would write something that I
thought would would fit and
He would use I gave him all the stems so he would use them in different ways and yeah, it's like
You know making a music video that was two hours
ways and yeah it's like you know making a music video that was two hours. Yeah his music is underneath like about an hour of this film which is wild
whether it's just sounds tones or fully scored bits and it was funny I was sending
him clips that I thought weren't good and then after he sent it back to me with
the music I was like this makes it so much better. Emotional music will make a
clip totally different so that it is You can see the music. Emotional music will make a clip totally different.
So it is very important that the music fits it.
Tells a story almost as much as what you're hearing and seeing.
Absolutely.
TruthseekerCypher says, Hagseth confirmed the story.
Check out the Microsoft allowance of Chinese workers
in our DoD cloud instances as admins.
This is bonkers.
So yeah, there was a story that came out today that we didn't actually didn't cover but the
Microsoft cloud services that the DoD was using I believe they were hosted in
China or they were or China had access to it search is actually digging it up right now
They China had been involved in constructing some of the tech they were using. They call it legacy tech.
That's how Hegseth referred to it. It's like his old stuff. We're not going to be
using any Chinese anything anymore in the DoD going forward. Yeah, Pete Hegseth
made a video about it and he signed the order that stopped it apparently today.
Let's see, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said, the Pentagon
was looking into a cloud computing program run by Microsoft utilizing
foreign workers from China, which was criticized this week for potentially
lacking adequate safeguards which could provide the CCP easy access to classified
defense data and systems. Look, there are people out there, and this is a there's a
lot of reasons why I don't consider myself a libertarian anymore but one of the things that
actually bothers me is
There's this idea that China is not an adversary and they are not actively looking to harm the United States
In when it comes to economically is that the general libertarian viewpoint that libertarian libertarian is not an adversary
Libertarians believe that the United's generally and and I can't speak for all libertarians, but
generally the sense is that China and Russia and basically every country in the world would
not have a negative opinion of the United States were it not for the behavior of the
United States.
So basically it's the US's fault for everything.
You know, America bad kind of sense.
And that if we just trade with them,
then everything will be fine.
We don't really have a particularly aggressive
foreign policy posture with China.
There's obviously disputes about Taiwan,
but even Taiwan, the United States,
has a strategic ambiguity policy on it,
and they don't specifically say,
oh, we would defend Taiwan, or we don't even,
I don't even think that any administration
actually says that Taiwan is its own country.
I think that they say that it's something-
Not to piss off China, yeah.
Yeah, and I think that that is a mistake.
The United States and China are adversaries,
and China will do everything they can
to beat the United States
in every single place you can possibly imagine.
And I know a lot of people are probably going to get mad about this.
Everybody wants to point to Israel being the bully, but I'm telling you, China is a bigger
bully.
I mean, it's just as bad as Israel and I talked about it earlier with the fentanyl, the fact
that they're buying all the property.
Like China wants to take over America, but they want to do it covertly.
Maybe other countries want to take over America covertly.
You know, I'm not going to sit here and debate you, but China is such a big threat,
especially all the people that I know that have died of drug overdoses,
Carter knows people too.
Like that is, I'm not saying Chinese people that you see every day are bad,
but China, the country does not care about America being successful.
They want to try to undermine us from the inside out.
So China, we talk, I hear a lot of people complaining about Israel.
China, I think, has caused much more irreparable damage, believe it or not.
I agree.
So let's see.
We'll go back to, let's see.
So someone says, you're wrong, Phil.
Read Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes.
I lost over 100 pounds in seven months,
but ate more food by switching to eating all meat.
Calories aren't important.
Hormones are.
You're wrong.
Totally wrong.
If you take in more calories than you burn,
you will put on weight.
I don't care that you lost weight.
You were still burning more
calories than you were taking in. I don't know what your diet was, I don't know
what your exercise regime was, I don't know what your base metabolic rate is,
but the absolute fact is if you take in more calories than you burn, you will put
on weight. If you take in fewer calories than you burn, you will lose weight.
He might be saying that if his hormones were off, he'd eat the food and his body wouldn't
convert it into the calories.
That's possible.
No, it's not that it doesn't convert into calories.
His hormones, his metabolism is slower because of the hormone stuff.
That could be specific foods.
He said that he ate all meat, so he's going to say that he was was in ketosis the entire time so that his body was using stored fat the entire time
But still if you eat too many calories your body will store the excess if you ate rib eyes for every single meal
And you sat on your butt you were taking in
5,000 calories 10,000 calories of broccoli you would gain weight if you ate that much of it
Yeah, that is just the way that it works. Keep in mind you don't count in calories.
You don't take in calories.
It's a weird.
It's a measurement.
Calories are just a measurement.
It's a measurement of the heat that's given off
as your body digests the food that you ate.
It's not a thing you eat.
Just like you said, it's energy stored.
It's how much energy is in the food.
And when your body takes in that energy,
it stores that energy as fat.
Well, I want to say this because I am a skinny legend right now. I've lost about 35 pounds. You look great. And when your body takes in that energy it stores that energy as fat well
I want to say this because I am a skinny legend right now. I've lost about 35 pounds. I look great
Thank you. I appreciate that but how I've been doing it people said I'm on a zempik
I swear to God
I'm not on a zempik
But you know I've been doing is the time
Restricted eating where I won't eat till about 5 p.m. In the afternoon, and then I won't eat
You know I only eat for like a four-hour window for me
I've lost a lot of weight and what what happened, and there's multiple different ways
for you to take in fewer calories,
but part of the reason is because you're restricting
how much time you have to eat,
so you're restricting the amount of calories.
Exactly, and it works for me.
So that's, if you guys are trying to do it,
try a 24 hour fast.
You don't have to go long fast, but try,
you just eat lunch, then don't eat lunch till the next day.
It sounds crazy, but you will start to lose weight.
Well, it works great too.
And I get more done actually.
I do too.
I get more work done, yeah.
When I'm eating a bunch, like Ian, you're naturally thin,
but when I'm eating, it's hardly slows me down.
I feel like when you eat, you might get energy.
No, I get cloudy.
That's why I don't eat a lot.
I love the clarity.
I thought maybe your body burns it better and mine doesn't.
But-
You know, lately I've been eating a lot of animal fat
and sugar. I've been doing these figs. I've been eating a lot of animal fat and sugar.
I've been doing these figs.
I've been eating a lot of figs and I went in the sauna
and got so hot.
Like the animal fat was storing the heat excessively.
So less animal fat, I've noticed the heat just goes right
through me and out of me.
But the sugar-
Figs will make it go right through you.
Well, and they say that hot sauna is very important.
That it really reduces your- You'll burn off all your water weight too. So you'll get really ripped. Yeah, you'll you got dehydrated. Yeah dehydrated so
All right. Let's see
Vincent
1487 says Alex Stein should check out a YouTube AI country song about his favorite type of big posterior
out a YouTube AI country song about his favorite type of big posterior Latina.
Everybody sends me that video.
YouTube won't let me put the other buttocks word.
I believe he'd love it and the comments about him too.
Yeah, everybody sends me that video.
I love that song.
Everybody's like, did you make this song?
But you know what's funny?
I made a song about big booty Latinas.
AOC is my favorite big booty Latinas on Spotify.
It got like a hundred thousand views maybe,
but this song, this AI big booty Lat Latina song, has like 100 million.
Carter, does that make you feel bad
that this AI music can be made in 10 seconds
and you have to work your ass off?
No, not really on Spotify.
I don't really care about that.
But you know what I mean?
I'm just saying like in general,
like did you use any AI to score this documentary?
Cause you know, Kanye used it on Heil whatever.
Did he?
Yeah, on HH.
Really?
I know this one.
I know that.
I usually use a little bit on the chorus. Yeah, that's what I heard. I mean, I use a lot of AI tools already.
In the music, yeah.
It doesn't really.
It's just like working with another person who has ideas
that you incorporate into something else.
I think we should use AI.
I know we're very threatened by it.
Creatively, it's not going to be as good, or maybe as creative.
But there are ways where you can make your art better.
Oh, yeah.
By using AI. I love AI. I use it every day. Literally every day. It's my search. Good or maybe as creative but like there are ways where you can make your art better. Oh, yeah by using
I love AI. Yeah, I use it every day. Literally every day. It's my search
Did you also see the thing where this one guy was like a brain scientist the more you use AI
The less your amygdala has to work and the less your like body has a reaction. So you get dumber
It's like the person that uber the uber eats driver that he might drive in New York City for ten years
But because he used the app the whole time,
he still doesn't know how to get around without the app.
So there's a thing where you have to train your brain
to learn this stuff.
So that's why, like, if people that are using AI
to write simple stuff, don't do that.
If it's a simple thing, write it yourself,
even if it's kind of shitty,
because once you stop doing that skill, you'll lose it,
and then you're not gonna be able to write a sentence.
And I have the trouble, sometimes I'm like,
because I have to write more than a paragraph,
and you know, like, it's just, if. And I have the trouble, sometimes I'm like, cause I have to write more than a paragraph and you know,
like it's just, if you use AI too much, it will make you dumb.
But it will also make you look smarter
if people don't know you're using it.
Yeah.
I identify as tax exempt says,
y'all was talking about the crazy rains.
Look into the 2022 Hunga Tonga eruption.
It increased the water content in the atmosphere by 20%.
Whoa. Wow, well. Hunga Tonga., it increased the water content in the atmosphere by 20%. Whoa.
Wow, well.
Tonga, Tonga.
That's catchy.
I like it.
See, Real Warpig says, Phil is tired of hearing people
wanting to put rich elite pedos in prison.
WTF dude, aren't you a dad?
Why don't you care about the victims?
If you don't care about the list, you're sick too.
Well, the point that I'm making...
What is your point?
Because I saw you arguing that, and I'm not even trying to debate you on it, but are you
one of the guys on Twitter that are saying, I'm just trying to see if you're in that camp
or it's not that important that it's old news?
No, no.
I don't think...
I think that if there's evidence to people actually doing something like that, arrest
them, prosecute them, I'm not saying that we should move on,
but considering the fact that we're inundated with it,
we've talked about Epstein every single night.
I talked about Epstein for two hours today
on the culture war, and we talked about Epstein
on two different topics tonight,
and there's nothing new to say about it.
So for me, I'm like, well, we've covered this.
We've covered this, we've talked about it.
And so from my perspective, and this is only my perspective,
I have said all that I have to say about it
and I'll just keep repeating myself over and over and over.
I think that's fair, but to your point,
what's even crazy is that I think we almost even knew
more about it in 2016 in 2017
when like all the leaks originally happened because it was it hadn't been
whitewashed now like we hear it's with the stories that I was hearing back then
and we can only say so much but about like pizza parlors and this and that was
some serious seriously dark stuff and now when you talk about the subject it's
not as dark as it was so I don't almost say it's gotten, this issue is like,
remember when the guy went to the comic ping pong with a rifle?
That is when people were like really pissed. Like that was the kind of the breaking point of if you're in that
conspiracy world, you're like, we want answers, we want answers. And there was more information about Jeffrey Epstein back then than you can find now.
I know that sounds crazy, but there was. I get what you're saying. But, and to his point, this is important,
very important to a very narrow group of people.
There's two different groups of people
that really, really care about the ex.
You know who's gonna be really passionate?
Let me finish.
Victims of child sexual abuse.
The point that I'm making is there are people
that are really passionate about it
that believe that there are a lot of people involved that
have actually assaulted and abused a lot of children and whatnot and then
there are people that believe that Epstein is the key to uncovering the
fact that that Israel controls the United States. Those two groups of people
are the most passionate and they they just assume that everyone agrees that, oh, there's
obviously hundreds of children that have been violated by hundreds of people.
Personally, I think that Epstein, I mean, obviously he did do bad things with children.
I don't think that it's as pervasive as some people do.
I don't think that there's dozens of people that have been to Epstein Island that have
abused hundreds of children.
Now I know that there are multiple of them that are, and if there's evidence that there's
been more than I think, and that there are people that need to be indicted and arrested,
absolutely.
But the presumption that, oh well, you know, it's pervasive throughout the government
and everybody that's in the bureaucracy's involved
and it'll take down so many blah blah blah,
I don't think that's the case.
Yo, just read this next one I have right here.
It's kind of doing the same,
it has to do with the same topic, so.
Okay, what is it, lead dust, lead lust?
Lead lust.
Lead lust says, what do you think about
Trump pardoning Julian Assange and Edward Snowden on the condition
that they be the team to investigate Epstein
with full clearance?
Do you think people would believe the results?
I don't know.
I don't know if that would change their credibility
if they did the investigation.
Like I said, I said this today on The Culture
where I'm of the opinion that people that believe,
that already have a formed opinion
about the Epstein situation,
unless you produce evidence that confirms their bias,
they will not think that it's enough.
So the people that are like,
you know, that are like, oh, it's all about Israel.
Well, like, if you don't produce evidence
that connects Israel to Epstein.
Well, you know the connection, though, Robert Maxwell, being Glenn Maxwell. The point that I'm making is, if you don't produce evidence that connects Israel to Epstein. Well you know the connection though, Robert Maxwell being Glenn Maxwell.
The point that I'm making is if you don't produce evidence that this is the linchpin
that undoes Israel's puppet mastering of the United States government, then it's not going
to be enough for them.
And if you don't produce evidence for the people that believe that there's thousands
of children that have been abused and stuff, If you don't produce evidence that confirms that,
then it's not gonna be enough for them.
And though this is a very narrow group of people,
and there's all kinds of, there's been multiple polls,
and for the normie people,
and I represent the normies on this particular case,
the normies, this is not a top line topic for them.
It's salacious, and people make a lot of noise about it
because of the small group of people
that are very committed and very,
think that it's very important.
But when it comes to the average American,
they're concerned with kitchen table issues.
And as boring as that is,
that's what most people are worried about.
You know what I think happened, Phil?
I think the interdimensional aliens came to your bedroom. that's the standard too it's like oh look Phil
Phil has an opinion that that is outside of what we consider acceptable so Phil
must be on the list too I think you miss one huge pocket of people that the same
reason they like the pedophile poachers content a lot of people are sexually
abused as a child and so they want that justice so somebody like Jeffrey Epstein
goes down,
just makes them sleep a little better at night,
knowing that it had a problem.
I mean, Jeffrey Epstein did go down,
and Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison.
But if there's more people than that.
If Bill Clinton's on there, if Chris Tucker,
if Kevin Spacey, I don't know who's on there,
but people want to know,
because they want to know who is the people
that are abusing children.
I mean, look, look, at no point have I said
we should stop investigations,
or that they should just let the sleeping dogs lie.
I'm just saying that from my perspective,
talking about every day when there's not actually
new information like the Wall Street Journal.
We haven't gotten any new information
in the past eight years.
There's nothing new.
The Wall Street Journal thing that just came out,
that's supposed to be a bombshell.
And it is literally a nothing burger. anyways listen up smash the like button share
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Matan it's gonna be crazy they tried to cancel us they uncancelled it so it's
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you guys all there in DC DC comedy loft calm hey six seven Kevin thanks for
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Kevin and of course check out sin frontera on Monday 6 p.m. Eastern Time live
That's right. We'll have a score for that as well released
Number of songs with the documentary. It's very awesome documentary and definitely come out next weekend
I'll be there behind the scenes as well with surge
Ian yeah, Yeah man I want
to shout out Tyler Today News we did a show that was really awesome Tyler so
thanks for doing that I'm gonna be going live with Joey Canole on Tuesday at 5
30 p.m. on uh. Who's Joey Canole? He runs the discord. Oh I see I've heard that name
Joey Canole okay that's who it is. The heartbeat of the essence of the tubes of
the internet. I was like, that sounds familiar.
Well, yeah, shout out Joey Canole.
Oh, and watch Prime Time with Alex Dine on Blaze TV.
Yeah, if you haven't been on the blimp yet,
check out, check out that.
Hey, Serge, I love you.
Love you, Serge.
New haircuts looking pretty cool, man.
So check out Tim Cast clips all weekend
and we will see you guys back here on Monday. you you