Timcast IRL - Trump Threatens To ARREST DEMOCRATS Over Sanctuary Policies, Obstructing ICE w/ Braxton McCoy

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Brett are joined by Braxton McCoy to discuss Trump threatening to arrest Zohran Mamdani if he tries to obstruct ICE operations, Rep. Thomas Massie suggesting the Big Beautiful Bill will f...ail, the Senate Parliamentarian attempting to sabotage Trump's BBB, and NYC signing a new $1 billion contract to house illegal immigrants.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Brett  ⁨@PopCultureCrisis⁩  (YouTube) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Braxton McCoy @braxton_mccoy (X)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, the big news, of course, is Trump's big, beautiful bill and whether or not it will pass. It's looking like it won't. There haven't been too many developments and we may be waiting until Friday when no one's going to be paying attention to see if it actually makes it through the House, of which, I'm going to say it again, I don't think it will. There are some developments there but not a whole lot to go on to lead off tonight's episode.
Starting point is 00:00:31 So we're gonna go with Donald Trump threatening to arrest Zoran Mamdani because he has talked about obstructing ICE from doing their job in New York to which I have said any politician that is obstructing by force the enforcement of the law should be charged with seditious conspiracy, which specifically states that if you're trying to obstruct the enforcement of law, that's a seditious conspiracy. But unfortunately for us, conservatives tend to be a little weak and the general argument is, oh, no one would ever do that. The law is not going to be used that way.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Well, I do think it should. And so Trump was asked about this and he said, we're going to have to arrest him if that's the case. Going on to say, we don't need a communist in this country. He's going to keep an eye on New York and he ain't going to be having it. So we'll talk about that plus, oh boy, New York is re-upping their hotels for illegal immigrants.
Starting point is 00:01:18 And here's where it gets fun. There's a conspiracy theory right now with millions of views on the left that Donald Trump Could you not is loading up cargo planes full of illegal immigrants flying over the Atlantic? Dumping them out of the plane and then returning I'm not kidding There are numerous videos on tik-tok on Instagram on x with millions of views on TikTok, on Instagram, on X, with millions of views where the users are showing flight patterns, showing stories out of Mallorca
Starting point is 00:01:49 where they're like dead bodies were found shackled and they are claiming the Trump admin is extra judicially engaging in executions of illegal immigrants. Not the bee has the story, so we'll definitely talk about that. Before we get started, my friends, we've got a great sponsor.
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Starting point is 00:02:19 To me, you take a look at the value of the dollar over the past hundred years, and it becomes kind of obvious that the dollar just keeps dying. Right now, with the big beautiful bill, what are they saying? Massive deficit spending. And most of us agree, even those who know the bill's gotta pass,
Starting point is 00:02:34 this deficit spending's gonna be really, really bad for the value of the dollar. It's gonna strip the buying power from the American people. So that's just one reason I'm a big fan of silver. Not to mention, of course, you guys, let's talk about technology. With what's going on in development with AI electric vehicles, silver is definitely a major component of this. So all of these tech, it's increasing, it's driving a massive demand for silver, especially AI. Some of the biggest technological
Starting point is 00:03:01 shifts in our lifetime, silver is essential to making it work. Since 2020, silver prices have jumped as much as 190% and it's still trading at what many experts are calling bargain prices. So right now, some say we're in a multi-year, I believe we are in a multi-year deficit. Demand is outpacing supply. Add all of the AI stuff that's popping up in every company trying to win this race, especially with, once again, the big beautiful bill, how they were trying to get that 10-year block on any state trying to regulate it. The expectation is they're going to be buying up as much as they can to build this up. It's going to get massive. Some analysts are warning the ongoing deficit could turn to a full-blown shortage. Robert Kiyosaki, the guy behind Rich Dad Poor Dad, thinks it could double or even triple by
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Starting point is 00:04:14 And also don't forget my friends, dccomedyloft.com. Go to the events. We got three events up right now. They're going to be fun, funny, informative, live tapings of the Culture War podcast. Now we haven't confirmed the talent and the debate topics for the 26th or August 9th, but on August 2nd, Michael Malus, Angry Cops, two very funny men debating the issue of policing. I will be there hosting along with Alex Stein. We've got just over 100 or so tickets remaining, so definitely go and check them out.
Starting point is 00:04:43 That's going to be, of course, August 2nd. Don't miss it. It's going to be a lot of fun. But also, don't forget to smash the like button. Share the show right now with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Braxton McCoy. Yeah, thanks for having me, man.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It's good to be back. I'm going to try not to get you demonetized this time. Right on. Well, who are you? What do you do? Last time, I called TSA agents the R word. Ha ha. Within the first. Yeah, so I'm going to try not to do that this time. Who are you? What do you do last time? I called TSA agents to our word
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yes, I'm gonna try not to do that this thing part over of a pasture peaks author Is that what you're looking for? I don't know here look I'll say you can you can say that your career as your guy who? Calls ice agents are retards So you can do it now. Oh, we brought it back. Okay, cool. We brought it back. Well, I feel I'm way more comfortable now So you can do it now? We brought it back. Oh, okay, cool. We brought it back. Well, I feel I'm way more comfortable now.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Got my words back, dude. Yeah, that was it's been a hot minute, but the culture war is shifting and we've been we've been winning. So it's been pretty good. Cool. But yeah, around me. Well, it's gonna be fun. Thanks for hanging out.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I don't know if there's anything else you want to add about what you do or you're good. Oh, yeah. All right. We'll get Brett's hanging out. Yeah, absolutely. On guys. Yeah, like Tim by stock or buys gold and silver. I'm going to be buying stock in Johnson and Johnson baby oil because of the ditty trial coming to a close today
Starting point is 00:05:48 But my name is Brett Dastvik. I'm the host of pop culture crisis Monday through Friday 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time Which is noon Pacific. You should hang out with us Hello everybody. My name is Phil LaBonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that remains I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it. Here's a story from ABC News Trump falsely questions are onan Mamdani's citizenship. Still doing that. Adding the falsely? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Right. Well, what does that even mean in this context? Sorry, I'm derailing anyway. So, Trump, there are many people questioning Zoran Mamdani's citizenship because they're arguing he lied on his immigration and naturalization forms by claiming he did not support terrorism when he was rapping that he did, that he, this certain group that was charged over it.
Starting point is 00:06:30 But he then goes on to threaten to arrest him over ICE operations and this is exactly what I voted for, calling him a nut job. Check this out. The president continued to allege the 33 year old Democratic socialist is a communist while talking to reporters Tuesday at the new so-called Alligator Alcatraz migrant detention center in Florida's Everglades When asked by a reporter what his message is to mom Donnie After he said in the victory speech following the New York City Democratic mayor primary that he would stop masked ICE agents from deporting our neighbors Trump responded well, then we'll have to arrest them. We'll have to arrest him. Look, we don't need a communist in this country, but
Starting point is 00:07:07 if we have one, I'm gonna be watching over him very carefully on behalf of the nation. Trump also referenced false claims that Mamdani's in the country illegally. He said a lot of people are saying he's here illegally, we're going to look at everything. Ideally, he's going to turn out to be much less than a communist, but right now he's a communist that's not a socialist. Born in Uganda, he's lived in the US since he was seven years old and became a naturalized citizen. Right, and the argument for why he's illegal is that he lied on his naturalization forms
Starting point is 00:07:33 as I mentioned. Now, it gets better. Bill de Blasio vows to organize human shield if Trump seeks to arrest Zoran Mamdani over promised ICE actions should he become mayor. He said Donald Trump will have to go through a lot of us first if he wants to arrest Zoran Mamdani over promised ICE actions should he become mayor. He said, Donald Trump will have to go through a lot of us first if he wants to arrest Zoran Mamdani, to which my response is, the seditious conspiracy law says
Starting point is 00:07:52 that if you use force to stop the US from enforcing its laws, you too are guilty of a seditious conspiracy. So I think by virtue of him saying this, lock him up. Rico charges. Rico charges against him and any lawyer who tries to help him. Like they did with Donald Trump's lawyers, if he wants to hire a lawyer just bring Rico charges and says, aha you're conspiring to help this seditious conspirator. I say arrest them all. I think that this this back
Starting point is 00:08:20 and forth between Trump, I wish that Trump wouldn't engage because it's only Raising his mom Donnie's profile. I mean, it's already a bad thing But the way that the reaction throughout the media has been about mom, Donnie getting you know winning the the nomination It's I wish that people would just kind of be like, yeah, okay cool and let it go But I don't think that that I don don't think that the Republicans have that in them. They're gonna look to attack him. Even though he is just a mayor of, even though it's the biggest city, it's still only a city. It's not like he's a governor.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It's not like he's got significant power nationwide. You know, you have a point? No, I'm good. I was gonna say, we were trying to figure out what the big story of the day was, because honestly, there's a couple, it's Diddy, but there's really not much to be said about the ditty case. He was found not guilty on the trafficking stuff, he was found guilty of prostitution,
Starting point is 00:09:13 and so it's like, okay, he's kind of a bad guy, and some of it was, you know, he was found guilty of. Then there's also the big beautiful bill, of course, however, there's no big movement on it. And so we talked about it and I said, you know, I think Trump threatening to arrest Zoran Mamdani is pretty big because this is the action we've been waiting to see. Democrats were violating the law. It's a huge deal.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Admittedly, however, based on social media trends and just kind of how I feel about it, we're in a weird place where it feels kind of uneventful that Trump is threatening to lock up a potential mayor of New York City. Rep. McIver has already been charged, and we've got this big fraud case where 324 people were charged. It feels weird that it's not the most alarming thing in the country that Trump is saying he will arrest a mayor.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I just think that we should arrest and deport anyone who eats rice with their hands. Yes. You know? That's good enough for me. It is weird how they suddenly start caring about states' rights when they're not in charge of the federal government for four years. They always want overarching, extreme federal power except for when the other side...
Starting point is 00:10:23 Granted, both sides can do that, but it seems so much more blatant and it's always related to sanctuary cities. I mean, I don't know. Lock them all up. Yeah, it's such a silly, the back and forth between Trump and Momtiny is gonna be three years, or the next three years,
Starting point is 00:10:44 of annoying back and forth, it's just gonna be silly and kind Donnie. It's gonna be three years or the next three years of annoying back and forth. It's just gonna be silly and kind of dumb. And all it's gonna do is make Mom Donnie the poster child for the left. I do not agree. This was kind of my point that everyone's desensitized to what's actually going on. A Democratic member of Congress was arrested and charged for assaulting an ICE officer. These things have happened. I think the probability that Trump arrests Mom Donnie or goes into New York by force and starts shutting down components of their government, I think there's actually a very
Starting point is 00:11:18 strong probability he does this. I think we should hope that he does because that to hit on your point What you're noticing is that the left is good at winning and you win by winning and conservatives usually fall back on this Principle thing they love going out and getting a win. They love to fall back and lose on principle Yeah, it's their favorite thing which is I mean it's absolutely awful because like if you don't have if you don't win you have no ability to Institute your policies and we're talking about this last night or whatever like you have to win in order to or you have to use power when you have it
Starting point is 00:11:53 because you know that the left is gonna they've shown over and over and over that when they get into the position of power they're going to use it even to their own detriment like the changing of the rules that ended up allowing McConnell to put you know put conservative judge or allowing Connell to make make sure that that the Republicans could put conservative justice on they still Exercise power when they have it and the Republicans honestly they need to do that more there was a mosquito flying around in here Yes, and I will give one silver coin to anybody who gets it I did catch it that one time.
Starting point is 00:12:25 A fly. It's a true story. Brett went and caught a fly and we were like everyone was like, what? Ninja in his spare time. Anyway, you don't think you don't think that this is the type of thing where Trump addressing it more and more raises this guy's profile more than it needs to be raised. I mean, giving a guy who's who benefits
Starting point is 00:12:43 from airtime more airtime for something, especially if you're not gonna act on this, if you're not gonna go in and arrest this guy, just. No, do it. You know, I was saying. But do you think that, do you honestly think that he will go in and do it? I think there's a decent probability, I don't know for sure.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Like, I don't buy that he will do it, and I think that if he doesn't intend to go do it, then giving the guy air time is. They arrested a judge, they arrested a charged indicted a grand jury term indictment on on Rhett McIver. So these moves have been made. I don't think I mean, let's let's let's let's even go back in time and talk about what Democrats did to Trump arresting his lawyers in multiple states. So the door has is wide open. And the Trump admin has already made similar moves. So I think the answer is he probably will do it.
Starting point is 00:13:25 That being said, people are bringing up these questions of like, but won't this make Zoran Mamdani more popular, more prominent? I don't care. I am done with this argument of let Democrats be evil and burn our country to the ground. Otherwise people will find out they exist. If there are evil people in New York
Starting point is 00:13:41 that will defend a guy for being evil, then it's better we just get it over with, arrest them, lock them up when they break the law, and then we've got to deal with a population of evil people. Yeah, I'm with you. And also, as far as raising his profile, I understand the concern there, but he's going to be the mayor of the biggest city in the world, or country, you know? And it's like a cultural capital. He's going to be in the news either way.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I mean, this guy's going to be front and center, whether you arrest him or not. And so I would rather it be in the news either way I mean this guy's gonna be front and center whether you arrest him or not and so I would rather be in chains and So I don't have to see any more videos of him eating rice with his hands One was too many one was too many. Yeah, I'm gonna come across, you know trying to relate to the third world But he's the mayor or going to be likely going to be well what of the the cat like the capitalism capital of planet Earth Well, when did he eat the rise of his hands? that recently not sure it was like an old video though, wasn't it? I don't know. I just saw the video like yesterday, and I'm still bothered by it He was making claims about the perspectives that you get when you eat rice with your hands or whatever Wait, what yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? What was he saying? Yeah? He was me
Starting point is 00:14:44 He was like you can't relate to the third world unless you eat like the third world essentially. And to which I would say, I have no interest in relating with the third world. I like it over here in the first world. See, that's just unfettered globalism. We need to roll things backwards. I don't believe the guy's actually anything.
Starting point is 00:15:02 He was shot in 2023. Yeah, I don't think this dude is anything other than a power hungry psychopath. He's a politician. So of course he's a power hungry psychopath. Yeah. But I mean, some of these, some of these people like our members of Congress, I wouldn't necessarily call all of them power hungry psychopaths. I would call them like sniveling, groveling sycophants. You know, some of them just suckle at the teat of the military industrial complex and Have no illusions about being present. Now. This is the kind of guy who wants to you know, genocide Hundreds of millions of people, you know, I mean that somewhat facetiously. I'm saying he strives to be a Stalin or a Lenin
Starting point is 00:15:37 I don't know if it really is facetious. Did you see that proposal he put out where he's gonna crack down on white neighborhoods with taxes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's kinda saying the quiet part out loud, you know. Only because he can. You know, CNN had this article up in February that said Trump's agenda will fail because white people don't have babies. Like the fact that the dude can publicly say,
Starting point is 00:15:57 vote for me and we will tax white people, shows you what happens with this demographic change. Even CNN made the point, demographics is destiny. Wow, wow, CNN. Race realists over there at CNN. Yeah, obviously I think- It's true. It's not, I don't think it's true actually.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I think- No, no, I mean they're the race realists. Right, right, I think Europe had, went through the enlightenment. This is where white people are. And so you get the American colonies, largely of white people saying, we're gonna create a country,
Starting point is 00:16:29 accepting of different races and multiculturalism under the umbrella of an ideology. You end up with people like Clarence Thomas, who's based AF and he's a black guy. It's not about being white, because certainly Clarence Thomas is the best of us. But when you import from the third world, it doesn't matter if they're white or brown people,
Starting point is 00:16:48 they come from a country that doesn't have our values, that will outnumber the values of the Americans. And that's when you lose your nation. Yeah, it's more to do with your actual like love of the country. I sent you an article the other day about Gen Z as the lowest sense of national pride of any prior generation, which isn't hard to understand, right?
Starting point is 00:17:09 They've been chipping away at that as far as the media and pop culture and everything. They've been chipping away at the idea of being proud of being an American for a very, very long time, but now you're seeing kind of between that chipping away of actual born citizens pride and then Immigration and then there's just no sense of America like cultural American identity anymore It's like when they talk about America like white people don't have culture. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, wasn't I true? Do I said that Canadians have no culture? Yeah, that's insane. That's self-hatred is disgusting like they have poutine. Yeah Nothing else, you know Nothing else Brian you know? Nothing else.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Brian Adams, I think. Oh, really? Shania Twain. Brian Adams? Brian Adams, Shania Twain. He's alright. Sarah McLachlan. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:17:53 I think maybe Seth Rogen cancels him out. Fair enough. I mean, look, there's a lot of great television that's been filmed in Canada, so I'll give them a pass on that, but for everything else, they don't get a pass. Let's jump to the next story, ladies and gentlemen. The big, beautiful bill. What is next? Well, the Post-Millennial writes it,
Starting point is 00:18:08 but they bury the lead. Thomas Massie is saying that there are probably 10 no's at the moment, meaning the Trump big, beautiful bill will likely fail. So they say the Congressional Budget Office estimates the bill would add roughly 3.3 trillion to the federal debt over the next decade. One of the most vocal critics has been Rep Thomas Massey of Kentucky, a fiscal conservative who opposes the bill's size and lack of spending cuts.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Massey confirmed the next Wednesday that there are probably 10 no's at the moment among House Republicans. The GOP has a narrow 220 to 212 majority in the House. Now this is interesting. You have to have 218 votes to pass a bill. I'm going to go ahead and say this. I think that Congress is fake. I don't think it's a real institution. I believe maybe it was at some point. But how does it make sense that there is a majority that can make the rules and they never do? And that you have this parliamentarian in the Senate who can just change the bills and you can't do anything about it. I think it's all fake.
Starting point is 00:19:07 It's a, it's smoke and mirrors. And they're going, oh, woe is me. We can't actually do these things, all heavens. And then they're going to do or not do whatever they want. AI. It's just fake now. Maybe the AI took over a long time ago and Mike Johnson is actually just a hologram. Yeah. I mean, remember when Mike Johnson was elected, everyone everyone's like I don't even know who this guy is
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yeah, where's it from Louisiana? Yeah, I think so like nobody knew who he was I don't remember the last time that someone was elected to the to be the speaker of the house that I was You know familiar with previously. Yeah, I had no idea who McCarthy was before he was speaker with previously. I had no idea who McCarthy was before he was speaker. So yeah, I mean that... But there were people like Jim Jordan, right? Was running for the speakership. I would have loved to see Jim Jordan. Yeah, but I really do think that there's a deep state. The deep state is bigger than people realize, and Congress is just smoke and mirrors. That's why Al Green doesn't really get censured. That's why Mike Johnson didn't do anything about it. I think the whole thing is just one big magic magic act. Zinke kind of alerted alluded to that on a podcast I was listening to today. He was saying
Starting point is 00:20:15 Congressman Zinke from Montana, he was saying that he knew there was the deep state was real and that it was a swamp, but he didn't realize how big the deep state was. And he said something to the effect of I thought I needed hip waiters, but what I really needed was a boat when I got there. So he's kind of saying the same thing as what you are. Like why is Mike Johnson bringing all the Democrat bills to the floor, but not the Republican, not the MAGA ones? And it's just all fake.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Can I ask a question on this though? Which particular revision that happened in the Senate is the one that's holding people up now? Because as far as I understand, the spending didn't change from the bill that got passed in the first reconciliation sent up to the Senate. The spending levels were the same, right? They, they, like there was the, there were goodies that were placed in it for conservatives, like the Hearing Protection Act and the Short act. Yeah. And I believe that's largely gutted now. Yeah, it's only they've removed, they made the tax zero dollars, but you still have to register and stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And we will save a little bit more on this, but the update on the gambling provision is that the parliamentarian added in a poison pill, which I think nukes the bill no matter what, or destroys the Republicans' chance of winning in the midterms. So we'll get more of that, but basically there have been changes made to it at the Senate level where you're going to get a ton of Republicans to be like, absolutely not. I mean, personally, I like that because I want to see the bill made into the best piece of legislation that it can be. I know it's gonna be a lot of garbage It's 900 pages. But look, I think the tax cuts are important. I think that the funding for the border stuff is important
Starting point is 00:21:56 I personally want to see the NFA stuff in there. I want to see the changing of that. I Don't want to see illegal aliens getting Medicare or Medicaid. I don't want to see the United States continue to have policies that attract illegal aliens, that make it attractive to come here illegally. I want to see changes that make it more difficult and that disincentivizes. But I think that it's going to get passed, you know, eventually. And I don't know what it will look like when it does. So the other day, the news source that we had looked, we had pulled up said they needed 218 votes.
Starting point is 00:22:33 But NBC says the first time it passed, it was 215 to 214, just a simple majority of the sitting of the available House members, not the three vacancies because Democrats had passed, had died. So I'm wondering if it's actually they can, if they lose five votes, because right now it's 220 to 212. So there's a certain amount of votes they can lose. I think it's three or four.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I'm fairly confident in the House. It's just simple majority is all they need. To your point, we need the money for deportations and on the Medicaid, Medicare, all that other stuff, what is that like 60% of the budget right now is social programs? Always, always gonna be and we're addicted to it, no one's ever gonna reject it. But if you have 50 million, I'm just throwing a number out there that I've seen, if you have 50 million people and some percentage of that is
Starting point is 00:23:21 illegally collecting benefits off of there, I mean you're reducing your spending just by getting rid of those. What's what do we have the estimated number on the getting illegal immigrants off of Medicaid? I've seen I don't have a solid number for you I've seen varying numbers. I've also talked to a person inside the government that told me that they they have better estimates of how many illegals are here than they put out in public. I have no idea if that's true but I had a person tell me that. I just say we should get rid of all entitlements. No bridges, no roads, you know. Yes. Nobody has to make their own killdozer. No, no, no more, no more science experiments on rats making them swim, you know, testing to see whether, or beagles, testing whether
Starting point is 00:24:03 fish feel pain. I'm half kidding, but it is a problem where no one running for office can threaten to take away your freebies. No one can. Anybody goes up there and says, we shouldn't be taking money from the young to pay the old, you'll lose two seconds. Yep. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Good luck building a society when you must maintain either the same level of extraction or increased levels of extraction. And have a population that's shrinking. Right. And it's impossible. Yeah. And what's the average age of a boomer right now, like 62 or something?
Starting point is 00:24:39 Yeah, somewhere around there. Yeah. So you got life expectancy is about 72 in the US, something like that. You know what I love too is you know what all the boomers say, it's my money, I paid into it, I deserve it. And it's like, okay, well, like here's the problem. I'm paying into it right now and I don't get to have it.
Starting point is 00:24:54 So you see there's an impasse. And I think what's going to happen is, the estimates on social security are that it's gonna reach the point where it can only pay out what goes in. And so benefits will be reduced to around 70 or so percent. Considering however, that people are living longer and you need between two and four workers to fund one Social Security recipient and Gen Alpha is only 40 million people,
Starting point is 00:25:25 I don't think there will be enough workers to fund even 70%. So the system just buckles and collapses. So to all the boomers out there saying, well, but I paid into it, so it's mine. I'd be like, listen, you can't own something that does not exist. Thank you and have a nice day.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I mean, even if we had replacement numbers for the population, that still wouldn't be able to take care of all the entitlements. And so now that there's a shrinking population, that millennials are smaller than boomers, and Gen Z is a smaller generation than millennials, it's going to fail. It's just a matter of when and how it's going to fail.
Starting point is 00:26:02 What do you think that looks like? How does that look like when it actually fails? So well what they'll do is they'll probably try to print their way out of it Which means it's gonna be inflation which means that the dollars that people get That are on fixed income that are on Social Security those dollars are gonna be able to buy less and that means that people that are Expecting Social Security to pay for them. They're not gonna be able to. You're gonna have more old people eating cat food is what you're gonna have. That's terrible, but you're gonna have a lot more
Starting point is 00:26:28 old people living off of less buying power because the amount of money that they're getting isn't gonna change. The dollar, the number of dollars isn't gonna change. The most likely thing is that the United States is gonna inflate it. It's possible that other countries call in their debt or what have you, but the most likely thing is that the United States is going to inflate it. It's possible that other countries call in their debt or what have you, but the most likely thing is that they're just going to monetize it and try and just pump more money
Starting point is 00:26:52 into the system. It is infuriating that they don't allow you to opt out of Social Security. Yeah. And to that point, as they keep pumping money into the system, you're going to have young people that are going to only have the opinions they have now, they're gonna only feel more strongly about it. They're gonna say capitalism doesn't work. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:12 You know, the money that I make doesn't matter. All right, new proposal. Only net taxpayers get to vote. I wish. You do that and title mends disappear overnight. No question. Like, so people don't understand this. Net taxpayer means you're paying more into the
Starting point is 00:27:25 system than you're getting out. Most people who pay taxes are paying substantially less. I think it's only the top 10% who actually pay all the taxes. So if you if the top 10% of the United States left the country, the entirety of entitlements would just collapse and cease to exist, or the country will go through hyperinflation. So we got a problem with a country where people expect other people to pay their bills. Again, imagine going to the founding fathers and telling them in 200 years time, half of all of the money a person makes
Starting point is 00:27:58 will be taken by the government in some form to be distributed amongst those who are not producing for the country. They'd be like, that's insane. Well, that's exactly where we are right now. Half of the money that you make is taken by the government and the 250 years since the founding, the actual currency has lost probably 90% of its value as well. Yep. I think it's what it's like the top 1% of taxpayers pay 40% of the federal taxes in this country. Here's what people don't understand when I say that half of all the money you make is taxed, people look at their tax bracket and they go what do you mean I'm only
Starting point is 00:28:32 at the 20% tax bracket and then you factor in property taxes, gasoline taxes, sales taxes, excise, sales, tariff, service, whatever. Overall I think the average when they actually wrap it all up is like 48% of all the money you make will be given away in taxes, will be given to the government in some form. So even if it's not income tax, when you buy gas, the prices, there's a tax in there you can't see. Cigarettes, they put taxes on that stuff, there's punitive taxes, all of your money. All so that they can have somebody create some type of virus so that they can have somebody create some type of Virus so they can study how to cure the virus
Starting point is 00:29:11 What was they they they create biological weapons so that they can figure out how to? Come up with antidotes for biological weapons I think the most likely situation is going to be that they're gonna end up inflating the currency hyperinflation and then there'll be a war. And it's like... That's the thing, all the people that you have in power now, I think they really believe that what ended the depression was the next war, World War II. So you get those kind of people in power, and it makes you wonder what the decision
Starting point is 00:29:40 making is going to look like, the process. Let's jump to this next story from the Las Vegas Review Journal, how Trump's big, beautiful bill could impact gamblers. Well, my friends, last night we talked about how there was a small two paragraph provision added to Trump's big, beautiful bill in the Senate that says that wagers can only be expensed up to 90%. So we have a bunch of updates on this and what it really means. The first thing I'm going to say is this was added to the bill based, so we did some investigating.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I see that mosquito over there. Where is he? He's over there. Anyway, so when this story broke, we did some investigating. And what we believe right now based on our sources on the Hill, the Senate parliamentarian added this provision in. This individual is a Democrat. My personal belief is that this provision was added intentionally to sabotage the bill. And there's a lot to why this is the case. Right now we've got Democrat members of Congress.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Dina Titus of Nevada says, Bared within the BS Republican budget bill is a provision that harms poker players and those who gamble by limiting loss deductions. I'm working on a legislative fix that fairly treats gaming losses in the tax code. It's going to be, at least right now, it looks like Democrats are swooping in to try and save the day.
Starting point is 00:30:59 They say Rep Dina Titus, Democrat, Derek Stevens, and Derek Stevens, co-owner of Circa, the D and Golden Gate Hotel Casinos, share similar concerns about this. So here's what I'm told happened. There was a tax rule that said any gaming, any wagering, you can deduct all of your losses against your winnings, but not more than your winnings.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Basically, if you go to a casino and you're a regular person and you wager a hundred bucks, you can't just write off a hundred bucks, only if you win. So this was set to expire, and the Senate initially said, we just re-up it, whatever, who cares? The Senate parliamentarian wanted to take it out completely, which would have meant that literally gambling is impossible because no matter what you win, you got to pay taxes on everything even when you lose money.
Starting point is 00:31:50 So this would mean that if you won money but then lost it right away, the government would still consider that income. The Senate Finance Committee negotiated saying, well, let's just do 99%. Parliamentarian refused and said it's got to be 90% to which they agreed, thinking it didn't matter. What we're hearing now is this goes beyond gambling. This affects any kind of wagering in any kind of tournament, any kind of sporting event where you decide to enter. If you were in a golf tournament or a fishing tournament and you put money up to enter that tournament, that's
Starting point is 00:32:17 considered wagering. At least that's what some of the people are arguing now. I'm not a tax lawyer. They're saying that still qualifies as a loss, as a wager, as far as the tax code goes. So what's happening, and I'll tell you my thoughts on this. I think this was intentionally added by the parliamentarian, a Democrat, to create a circumstance that will target regular working class white dudes
Starting point is 00:32:43 who live in Democrat urban areas that vote for Trump. Why? This effectively will shut down fantasy sports apps. So here's what I'm seeing from everybody. They're saying gambling is bad, who cares anyway? Okay, the majority of like the middle aged white dudes in Pennsylvania who shifted for Donald Trump, Union working guys, who are now gonna be asking questions
Starting point is 00:33:07 as to why they can no longer go to their fantasy sports league or why they're getting taxed $3,000 at the end of the year for having done it. What I'm hearing from people, a lot of people are saying, well, who cares, even if you go to Vegas, you're not really gonna track all of this anyway. If your argument is just line your taxes, fair point, I guess, most people don't want to do that, but you're right.
Starting point is 00:33:26 People probably won't report this stuff. What I think happened, wild conspiracy, if you were a Democrat and you're trying to sabotage Donald Trump in the midterms, what group are you targeting? You're targeting like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, where a lot of white working class people shifted for Donald Trump. What do these guys like doing? Fantasy sports on the weekends with their buddies. Sports spending on the weekends with their buddies.
Starting point is 00:33:55 You do something like this. FanDuel, DraftKings, and whatever app you're using, you're going to open up the app one day and a notification is going to pop up saying, we do track every transaction you make and we'll be reporting that to the IRS as we're obligated to do. And then next year, some random 40 year old dude who makes 50,000 a year is going to get a tax bill for two grand and say, I have no idea what just happened because a Senate parliamentarian
Starting point is 00:34:19 Democrat injected in this bill that you can only write off 90% of your losses. So I think this is just one component of what Democrats likely conspired to do behind the scenes to make sure that it's a poison pill. If Amadei in Omodi or whatever his name is, the Nevada congressman Republican, votes against Trump, Trump's going to primary him, right? Okay, if he votes for the bill, the people of Nevada will primary him. So it's a rock and a hard place. Looks like the, and not to mention, Nevada was slim majority between Republican and Democrat.
Starting point is 00:34:54 If the Republicans pass this, you are going to see the entirety of the gaming industry, which includes sports tournaments and otherwise, blaming Donald Trump, saying this is his fault and it's bad for the industry, and this is $172 billion. I mean, look, I don't know a whole lot about gambling at all or the law surrounding it,
Starting point is 00:35:18 but if you've got a state like Nevada that's got such a very slim majority. You know? Well, there's three, I think it's three Democrats, one Republican, but the Senate race was like one percentage point. Yeah, if the Republicans pass this, Nevada's gonna go Democrat 100%, it's gonna never change.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I mean, look, this bill has the, you know, it's possible that this bill causes havoc with the midterms for Republicans because there's a lot of people that are really upset with a lot of things in it. I think that the the bill needs to pass. Trump needs to get his budget for for illegal immigration but you would be crazy not to think or to believe that Democrats are not thinking ahead for how they can sabotage Republicans in the midterms. Knowing Trump's bill is gonna pass, what would any clever person do?
Starting point is 00:36:11 Can we get stuff put in there? That'll be a time bomb. Then in the midterms, we can run campaign ads saying that so-and-so Republican voted to tax your fantasy sports so that your hobby would effectively be shut down. Or a pro industry like the World Series of Poker. You're going to have all of these pros popping up already Newsweek, NBC have written this
Starting point is 00:36:33 up. I think it is only by luck we caught this one bad thing injected by the parliamentarian. But I'm willing to bet there's probably a dozen more nobody noticed because it's almost a thousand pages I mean selfishly I like the idea of less people being at shot show this year But I understand the point that you're making this is not something I had really known about until this morning I was watching your show before we came on and We got to get deportations going so I want this thing to pass, but I do think you're making a fair point I mean what percentage of? We got to get deportations going. So I want this thing to pass. But I do think you're making a fair point.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I mean, what percentage of Nevada's revenue comes from travel to Vegas specifically for gambling? It's got to be- What about Kentucky? Kentucky, yeah. Derby. Derby. And we were talking about that behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I, everyone's trying to figure out why Thomas Massey is going so hard. Well, I mean, the Kentucky Derby is revolves around gambling, at least partly. Well, he was going hard against it before the Senate inject the parliamentarian. I want to stress this. This is the linchpin. The parliamentarian appointed by a Democrat, put this in there. Why can someone explain to me how the hell a parliament apologize for Kersen gets appointed when you have control of the it's fake. Like, how does that work? The Republicans could easily remove the parliamentarian. Yeah, that's really the... It's fake. Like, how does that work? The Republicans could easily remove the parliamentarian.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Yeah, that's really weird. It's fake. But it takes 50, a 50 Senator vote to remove them, right? Or a majority vote? Presumably, and we have how many seats, 52? Not sure exactly. I think it is 52, yeah. So they theoretically should be able to just change the rules.
Starting point is 00:38:03 That was the point of winning a majority, but they're not doing it. And they're going, oh no, the parliamentarian is doing things. There's nothing we can do to stop it. Yeah. And in the Senate, because this is a reconciliation bill, it doesn't have to meet 60 up there either. It just has to make simple majority in the Senate too. This is the bird rule that basically the parliamentarian advises on what needs to go in it so that
Starting point is 00:38:26 it can't be subject to the filibuster. And then all the members of the Senate just say, okay, whatever you say, parliamentarian. And that's only there because it's a budgetary bill, not a policy bill. Yes. That's my understanding. Yeah. Theoretically, they could nuke, they could change all the rules and the Republicans could say we are going to win forever, but they are intentionally floundering.
Starting point is 00:38:45 This is what they do. They're never intended to win. They're pulling a Washington generals right now. They're all whoopsie daisies. Which is frustrating. So I think people need to consider, it is only because of pro poker players that this story actually got any attention.
Starting point is 00:39:01 The world series of poker is happening right now. You got a hundred plus thousand people flying into Las Vegas for the biggest event of the year. There's tens of thousands of pro players and they do this at one of the highest profile moments for the gaming industry. I'm like, that sounds intentional. It sounds like they were like,
Starting point is 00:39:20 what will cause the biggest problem? But, and so here's what I thought. Conservatives, many are cheering for it. They're like, oh really, it's gonna inadvertently ban gambling? Ha, good. It's like, okay, Kentucky Derby, Charlestown Races. You've got all sports betting, ESPN.
Starting point is 00:39:39 You've got Draft Kings. You've got Barstool Sports. You've got FanDuel. You've got UFC. All of these industries. Then you've got draft kings, you've got barstool sports, you've got a fan duel, you've got UFC, all of these industries. Then you've got to consider too, and I'm not so sure on this one, but I saw people pointing out that wagering for tournaments
Starting point is 00:39:53 when you enter any kind of tournament, be it golf or fishing or anything where you go with a sponsor, the money paid upfront is considered a wager because they pay out a prize pool. No kidding. So this means that entry fees can't be expensed at 100% anymore.
Starting point is 00:40:10 So if you enter a golf tournament and lose, you still have to pay on any money received, even though it costs you money to do. So it looks like they did this intending to set a time bomb for the midterms or something. Or like for Rand Paul and Messi, what choice do they have? Or well, Messi is Tennessee, right? I think he's Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Messi's Kentucky. He's Kentucky. Yeah. Oh, okay, right, right. Rand Paul's Kentucky as well, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, I think it's those two and then McConnell.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Imagine being like, guys, you can't pound the horse at the Derby anymore. Right, yeah. You're gonna lose money. So the thing about this that people should understand, I know we talked about it quite a bit, but I'll just lay it out, is that as a percentage base, it's an exponential loss for your recreational gamer or amateur, you know, tournament goer. If you, if you, let's say every month you play in a tournament that costs 500 bucks and you're like, man, I love fishing.
Starting point is 00:41:08 It's 500 bucks, I do it once a month and it's like a regional thing. That means you're gonna be looking at about $6,000 wagered. So you're gonna owe taxes on $600 if you break even on that tournament. And then you're gonna have to pay, you know, what? I don't know. You're gonna be 180 bucks, 200 bucks on your taxes,
Starting point is 00:41:25 and you're gonna get a bill in the mail, and you're gonna wonder why it happened. You're gonna open your FanDuel app, and it's gonna say, we are here, we are now officially sending all of your information to the IRS, you're gonna get a letter in the mail in June, and it's gonna be like, based on the information from FanDuel, you owe an additional $2,000.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Every time you wage your money, if you break even, the amount of losses, it's going to keep increasing, meaning the percentage of base you owe goes up. If you bet $1 and you win and lose a million times, you will owe the government taxes on $50,000. And you have only a dollar to name. It's insane. Long story short, they're sabotaging Trump's bill. They want to steal the midterms, and they're doing it in a way that conservatives are going to cheer for and regret it later.
Starting point is 00:42:12 It's not even stealing. It's just smart politics on their part. It's masterful, man. I'm impressed, honestly. And it does call into question just how much of the American economy relies on gambling now. I know it's become a meme of sorts, especially in baseball, with how much gambling is involved in the market for them there, but it's definitely
Starting point is 00:42:30 interesting. I think additionally, like once again, I feel my thoughts on this are we lost, we're fucked. Because conservatives can't see past the word gamble. They don't understand this is like a fishing tournament. This is like a 43 year old guy being like I'm gonna go enter a fishing tournament go fishing with the boys and that's a wager Against the prize pool and at the end of them under the year They're gonna be like you owe money on all your winnings and he's back, but I'm negative now Why can't that go fishing anymore? And all the conservatives keep saying is fuck gambling and I'm like, oh my god
Starting point is 00:43:02 Even fantasy sports is different when you think about it. They don't understand the difference between fantasy sports and gambling considering how prevalent fantasy sports are for people these days. I think the issue is that the bill says wagers and people keep saying gambling. This is a tax on wagering in any capacity. You want to go to a golf tournament, they're taxing your winnings. You can't win anymore. It sounds like if you're going to a shooting tournament and there's a gun on the line and you win it, that's considered income, right?
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yep. And you wagered against it. Yeah. That's wild, man. I wonder who actually put this language in the bill. The Senate parliamentarian. The parliamentarian herself? Lisa started digging around and asking Senate staffers,
Starting point is 00:43:43 how did this get put in the bill? I have the tweet. Lisa Elizabeth says, I'm now hearing this on the parliamentarian invoking the Byrd rule. A specific change related to the deduction of gambling losses under the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act is scheduled to expire at the end of 25.
Starting point is 00:43:58 You can deduct gambling losses up to the amount of your gambling winnings. Full stop. This is again the issue. It's wagering in the bill. Wagering, not gambling. Wager. Expiration in the end of 2025, a change introduced by the TCGA that temporarily removed the limitation that losses could not exceed 2% of adjusted gross income. I'm told the Senate parliamentarian flagged it and said no to the extension because the bird rule. Congress went to her and asked for 99%. She said no and agreed to 90.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Her name is Elizabeth McDonough. She's supposed to have no political agenda, but she is no Trump fan and keeps delivering blows to his agenda. I should just, I think there's no way to explain this to conservatives to get them to understand what this will do to the midterms because the only thing I keep hearing from most people is,
Starting point is 00:44:46 but gambling is bad. And I'm like, right, okay, so don't, under any kind of tournament, no race car tournaments, no amateur racetracks, no destruction derbies, no golf, no fishing, no disc golf, no football, no frisbee, whatever it is. And then on top of that, you can talk about sports betting, UFC, the entirety of the gaming industry of Vegas.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Like, this is a nuclear bomb. I wonder if there's even like some type of other stats on what the political affiliations are as far as gambling. Like which party gambles more? Which, you know, which members? Probably Democrats. You think so? Yeah, and the Democrats are already the ones. I mean, not if you're talking fishing tournaments and golfing tournaments and shooting tournaments.
Starting point is 00:45:25 If we're gonna talk about wagering as opposed to just gambling, then I would say that, you know, isn't the joke always that the voters on the left, they don't have any money anyways? Yeah, well, I wonder what this does to those people that do, like, buy scratch-off and stuff like that. Yeah, well, actually, there's a chair right there for us.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I was gonna read it from Martin Edgar. He says, the lottery is a wager. Yeah. This is going to nuke a bunch of states. This is gonna be absolutely insane And the thing is people that do like scratch offs and stuff like that They tend to actually be you know, poorer and lower on the income scale that that's gonna really really hurt those people I mean if they if they do any kind of you know, I mean, I imagine they just I imagine they're looking for deductions on their
Starting point is 00:46:01 You know for their losses, but at the same time, I mean it could you know, I mean I don't see how they would be reporting the scratch-offs and stuff like that. Check this out. Individual stores aren't gonna be reporting that. Secession Now superchated 100 bucks saying, "'Here's $100, please shut the fuck up about gambling. "'A Gamble Law Tax Code change, nobody cares.'"
Starting point is 00:46:19 Extra 15 minutes on the same topic. No, no, I'm reading this because it exemplifies exactly the point I'm making. Conservatives hate gambling and are happy to see Trump's agenda get blown the fuck up by a Democrat and they don't care. And the midterms are going to come around and they're going to wonder why they lose in a nuclear fashion. Like the swing districts could flip 10 seats because there's going to be some 50 year old guy being like, I can't go fishing anymore. Like I enter a fishing tournament every year in my town
Starting point is 00:46:46 and now I got a tax bill over it. Look, I'll give into this if we can at least get Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame. All right. I mean, honestly, I think that, like I said earlier, there's a lot of stuff in this that really could do a job on the Republicans come the midterms. And I still do believe that if the economy is good,
Starting point is 00:47:04 they'll have a positive result in the midterms I'm not gonna talk about individually or whatever but I think that if the economy is good they'll do though they can have a positive result in the midterms but if the economy is bad all of these things are gonna people are gonna remember they go remember they did this I'm out I'll say this Amadei will lose in Nevada that's a that's a seat flipped instantly. You know, he normally wins by like 10 points. He's like Reno, but the state, like Reno has gaming.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Nevada is a gaming state. Imagine what the ads are gonna be when they're like, Amadei voted to destroy the gaming industry in Nevada, specifically with Trump. Yeah, and I don't know a lot about this, but constitutionally I'm against, and I mean like personal constitution, not like it's written in there, and I don't know a lot about this, but constitutionally I'm against, and I mean like personal constitution, not like it's written in there,
Starting point is 00:47:48 but I'm against gambling. I don't think it's good, but you win by winning and we need to win. So your point is taken. I don't know. It sounds plausible to me. I don't really have a strong opinion beyond that, I guess. Yeah, I mean, it's anything that is this controversial
Starting point is 00:48:04 that has the negative reaction that this does. I mean, it's just a better idea to just get it out of there, get rid of it. Let's jump to the next story. We got this from the Post-Millennial. NYC signs $1 billion contract to expand hotel shelter program for illegals after Roosevelt Hotel Shutdown. These hotel units will be used by social service vendors to house emergency shelter clients who have entered the shelter system. I am for this. I could not be happier. A billion
Starting point is 00:48:35 dollars is not enough. I think New York should spend every penny they got to create single centralized locations where all the illegal immigrants go. So that way it's cheaper for Trump when he goes with a handful of ICE agents to round them all up, put them in buses and send them home. That's right. You just post dudes up at the exits and- Wrap some chicken wire around it.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Put up all the bus and be like, everybody in you go. We're giving you a ride home. Set security, get in there and see ya. So it is absolutely insane they're doing this. However, I am kind of serious about it. I mean, a hotel centralized in New York where all of the illegal immigrants are, it's gonna be the easiest ICE raid ever.
Starting point is 00:49:16 You send one guy with a clipboard, he's gonna walk up and be like, I got a van outside, that's all, you don't need anything. I'm just glad that I don't live in New York so I don't have to pay that New York City tax that's going to go to the funding of this. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, I think a couple of things.
Starting point is 00:49:29 You gotta be careful. You don't wanna give up the best city in the country and just blow it off. It's important. It's a cultural hub. It's a financial hub. It would be great to have control of it. And I mean, where I'm from,
Starting point is 00:49:40 we're not real fond of New York City, but I still don't wanna just piss it down the drain. You know what I mean? where I'm from, we're not real fond of New York City, but I still don't want to just piss it down the drain. You know what I mean? And then secondly, didn't we just find out like six months ago or so that New York was shipping welfare recipients to New Jersey because it was cheaper to house them there. So they're keeping them on welfare,
Starting point is 00:49:59 like New York City welfare, and then housing them elsewhere. So they're offloading miscreants. At least, this is what I heard. I hadn't heard that, but it wouldn't shock me at all. York City welfare and then housing them elsewhere. So they're offloading miscreants. This is what I heard. I hadn't heard that, but it wouldn't shock me at all. I mean, and I agree with you, like the idea that we should just write New York off is, I think that's unpalatable to most Americans. But at the same time, New York has gone through bad city governments and they've come out the other side. And I think that this is probably the same situation.
Starting point is 00:50:26 You'll get Memdani in there for however long he's in there and his policies will have the negative repercussions that his policies, that these types of policies always do. And New Yorkers will get sick of it. And hopefully they'll find someone like Giuliani in the 90s or whatever to fix the city and bring it back. Why does this work? Why does that work for New York but not California?
Starting point is 00:50:52 Well, because it's a city versus a state. But I guess the hubs of California have been the same for how long, right? In California, it's other than what's San Diego. The rest of it is, it's all blue everywhere in the cities and the outskirts of the is, it's all blue everywhere in the cities in the outskirts of the state, it's red. A lot of that is because of illegal immigration.
Starting point is 00:51:09 So, and I don't think that you can do that in New York City. I think that because it's a city, I think there's gonna be, there would be different, there are significantly different contexts because of the fact that it's a city. I mean, look, California's awesome. Like it's beautiful country. Like the, I mean, you know, it's out there is awesome. Like it's beautiful country like that. I mean, you know it out there is gorgeous
Starting point is 00:51:27 You can literally in January be sitting in in Lakeview and looking up at her, you know in and looking up at the Snowcapped Mountains It's gorgeous. That's really really really attractive to people, you know, and so it's almost like California itself has empowered the state government to just brutalize the citizens Because they'll put up with it Yeah because they'll put up with it because it's so nice It's the one where I'm just like look I would never want to live there because of the taxes and because of just the cost of living but if I could I would put up with it because it's such a beautiful place to be I think also their cities are more spread out
Starting point is 00:52:05 it's easier to get away from You know the the problematic type people to use a word You've got bigger suburbs big yeah I ain't gated communities if you're rich if you're rich in LA Hollywood area you live up on a mountain with Security and if you're rich in New York, you've got a penthouse. So you're still dealing with it, you know, I Think that's I think that's totally right. It's it's easier To isolate yourself. If you don't like the cities you can go live in the desert You know go out into just a you know, maybe half an hour 45 minutes outside of the city and it's not the same
Starting point is 00:52:39 You know culture even if you have to deal with the laws and I think in California it's such a big state I think there's a lot of people that do a lot of skirting the laws out there you know people that are just like ah you know I pay my taxes because I have to but others the other things that aren't you know ten round mags here you are out in the desert there's a lot of mags you know well on a positive note maybe we'll get a taxi driver part two that won't be a crappy remake Wasn't a Joker a remake of taxi driver? Yes And Kings of Comedy
Starting point is 00:53:16 But I mean like a mixture of the two yeah, yeah, but no but you know I mean you what you don't want is a remake of falling down Stay away from that one. Did you not like falling down? I love falling. Yeah, it's amazing. Michael Douglas, he's just getting bigger and bigger. That's all the movie is. He just keeps getting a bigger weapon. Yeah. Smart moves. Like that archetype of the guy with the glasses and the white button-up shirt, it's like just,
Starting point is 00:53:37 you see that guy come, just run. He's kind of a dick though. Run the other way. He just wanted breakfast. Yeah. My favorite scene is though when he's sitting in the park and the two guys come up, and they're like, this is our turf.
Starting point is 00:53:46 And he tries to be like, I didn't realize. And then they shake him down anyway. What is that? Is that when he beats him with the briefcase? Yeah. Yeah. What a great movie. What's the final weapon that he gets?
Starting point is 00:53:58 Oh, gosh, it's been so long. I know, right? Wasn't it a rocket launcher? I thought it might have been the rocket launcher. He just keeps getting bigger and bigger. It's been a long time since I saw that. Could you imagine pitching that in Hollywood? Like here's my movie. It's Michael Douglas and he starts off with a briefcase and he beats people and he gets bigger and bigger weapons until the movie ends. I mean the the idea was is that movies were better when there was more cocaine in the executive office. You know I think you're on
Starting point is 00:54:23 to something. No it's it's 100% true like that like the it's the sanitization of Hollywood executives that is ruined moviemaking because nobody's just ripping lines and then saying I got an idea the the idea that he keeps getting bigger and bigger weapons it reminds me like the people that were trading like started trading with a paperclip and ended up trading to a house that's what he's doing just with weapons. I think that's actually happened several times. Like there are people who make videos about it now. YouTube videos about that.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Yeah, you like knock on someone's door and you're like, I got a business card. What are you gonna give me for it? And then they're like, I'll give you a pen. Okay. And then the guy takes the pen and you're like, I'm filming a video. And then I had a paperclip and made it all the way to a house.
Starting point is 00:55:02 A pen is significantly more valuable than a business card. But the reality is in the early stages of those trades, the pen is valueless to the person. They're like, I got a bunch of pens lying around. Oh, he got away from you. He got away that time. Mosquito. It wasn't quick enough. Maybe someone can go around New York and trade a bunch of stuff to get that hotel.
Starting point is 00:55:22 I mean, haven't they been doing this in Portland for a long time? The hotels for illegal immigrants? I don't understand how the system survives. I don't think it's working in Portland. And I don't think they tried. Like, I mean, I mean our society. Well, he wants to open this hotel because that he wants to get this hotel because then he can put the government run grocery stores right next to it. I do you guys think that we've passed the event horizon of social collapse based on young Americans not wanting to work, not knowing how to work and the fertility crisis? Yeah. I mean, I think it's more to do with the fact that like whenever these topics come up people are like eventually people will learn that free markets are the way I'm like no they're gonna turn to the government. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Like they always do right? Like they haven't been trained that they haven't been taught either by their families or by society to be self-reliant This is what people don't understand right when you have social disorder Who's in charge when there's no government? Right whoever's the most brutal the most brutal guy wins Yeah And so you end up with barbarians. And the joke is that if the US government collapsed,
Starting point is 00:56:27 there's going to be a prison gang that uses the prison as a base and starts taking over things. OK, well, who's the most brutal guy literally right now? Most brutal guy right now? Well, the American government. The US government, indeed. So when social aura starts breaking down and there's no food, there's no resources,
Starting point is 00:56:47 people will go to the most brutal guy and say, I will do anything you say as long as you give me food. And so we see time and time again, like in Venezuela, the people who join the military are guaranteed food while everyone's starving. All you gotta do is shoot your neighbor if they step out of line. So, and what I mean by that is they will order the Venezuelan National Guard, go out with
Starting point is 00:57:07 guns and open fire if ordered to and you will want for nothing. And so these people are basically like, look, I don't know you, I don't care. It's either I do this so I can feed my family or my children starve and they do not care about you. I mean, look at the whole, like, I was talking, or we were talking to Terrence when he was here a couple of weeks ago, and I was talking about how AOC could actually get the nomination and could get elected.
Starting point is 00:57:38 And he was like, no, no, no, but the situation, the context that Tim's talking about, is exactly the situation that would lead to someone like AOC. And maybe it's not AOC, maybe it's Mamdani, right? So maybe he does a couple years, I don't know how long the New York mayor is in office, but he does a couple years as the New York mayor.
Starting point is 00:57:57 There's, with that kind of position and that kind of high profile, you can guarantee that he will have his sights set on the presidency. Oh, I thought, I didn't know that he was allowed to run for president. 24 more. Oh, no, you're right, he will have his sights set on the presidency. Oh, I thought I didn't know that he was allowed to run for president. Oh, no, you're right. My bad. I'm sorry. I apologize. He was born here, right? That's true. That's true. But someone like him with the same kind of politics that was born here.
Starting point is 00:58:17 The Constitution is only what people are willing to enforce. And it is conservatives who live in this world of, so as it is written, so must it be done. But the reality is the constitution has never been enforced. Not once. We only got the right to keep bare arms in 2008 and only technically 2010 with Chicago v. McDonald, I think it was. And so everyone's like, we have a right to keep in bare arms. Well, you actually didn't until 2008. They would, states could actually arrest you and say you can't have a gun. And so that right, although I was in trying to the constitution, wasn't actually interpreted to mean you literally could have a gun. Free speech? No, because they had blasphemy laws. They arrested George Cohen for swearing. Free speech didn't exist
Starting point is 00:58:56 the way we understand it until recently. So my point ultimately is the constitution says, you got to be born here? Yeah, okay, right. Give communists enough power and wait till they change the meaning of natural born citizen. And they'll be like, no, no, it means born of nature, not from a test tube. In West Virginia, this is my understanding, I'd never actually read through the constitution,
Starting point is 00:59:17 but I was told by local politicians that drinking and gambling are banned in the constitution. So you can't pass a law to, or legislation that's gonna allow gambling and drinking. So what they did was, how can we legalize liquor in West Virginia when the Constitution says no alcohol? I got it.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Clearly they meant methyl alcohol, not ethyl alcohol. Obviously they banned methyl. What alcohol will kill you if you drink it? But sugar alcohol is fine. So boom, here we go. And despite the fact they knew exactly what the constitution was trying to say and what their ancestors were trying to prevent,
Starting point is 00:59:58 they said, we all just kind of look at each other shrug and say, screw them, we're doing it anyway. So when people are like, Zola and Mamdani, you can't run for president or Arnold can't run for president or whatever, I'm like, dude, give it time. If the communists get enough power, Cenk Uygur has already made the argument that he should have the right because he's a naturalized citizen that should qualify. Otherwise, he's a second class citizen. And there's an interesting argument there. That's like, we've talked about it because of the way the Constitution is worded right now, a Chinese woman can have a kid in the United States as a tourist, leave immediately, and then 20 years later that
Starting point is 01:00:33 kid moves back to the United States without knowing a word of English, goes to school, studies for 15 years, and then can run for president. I mean, that makes no sense. So they, I think they are, they absolutely, you know what, let me just put it this way. Do you guys actually believe, if given the opportunity and the political power, Democrats would not change that in some way? They would do anything they possibly could
Starting point is 01:00:55 to maintain power. I can't wait to read Katonji Brown Jackson's scent. AI generated. Yes. It's gonna be great. So I'm gonna say this, I a segment on this on the rumor that it was AI-generated I think it was no kidding. Well, she has one one point and she says a Martian arriving from another planet and immediately everyone went Martian means from Mars Like Martian is the is demonym of as a fictional Martian light like Mars life
Starting point is 01:01:24 What? Yeah. I think colloquially that's not necessarily gonna be helpful. Either way, why would a Supreme Court justice write some nonsensical fiction about a Martian? It's something that an AI would generate telling a story. She all-
Starting point is 01:01:41 Who was born on Mars and then lived on Venus for a minute. And then- She also had a dot, dot wait for it dot dot dot. Like, and who's going to be the real person selling power? Dot dot dot wait for it dot dot dot. The executive branch is like, she wrote the district courts. And it's like, that's not a legal opinion writing. That's like a feminist blog writing.
Starting point is 01:02:02 There was ellipses in it? Yeah, ellipses, parentheses, wait for it, parentheses was ellipses in it yeah ellipses parentheses wait for it parentheses ellipses that's the best yep it was good that the rest of the SCOTUS kind of you know smacked her down for that I think it was AI generated let's jump to this next story my friends we got this one from not the bee the newest left-wing conspiracy is that Trump is throwing migrants off planes into the ocean for real. When I, for my noon morning show, I guess my afternoon, my noon show, I guess you can't even call it morning show,
Starting point is 01:02:31 this was the lead. And the first comment that pops up was someone saying, is this clickbait? To which someone responded, yes it is. First of all, clickbait, I'm gonna say it again for those in the back, is when you leave information out of the title. So you'd say something like,
Starting point is 01:02:45 this celebrity did the most disgusting thing. Wow, that's clickbait. This is an actual story that is so insane, people didn't believe it. They thought I was making something up to give them a click on it. That's not correct. There are millions of views on these TikToks
Starting point is 01:03:01 where people are making this claim. Guys, they're throwing the deportees out of the planes and into the ocean. No, this is not a drill. No, this is not fear-mongering. They're shackling people, flying out into open ocean and throwing them out, okay? The flight patterns, there's people tracking them.
Starting point is 01:03:19 It's all not true. On this app. Half-fake. The flight's going out with the deep. Okay, so I don't know. So we showed her the videos of planes taking off from Afghanistan during the pull going out with the deep. Okay, I don't know. Some showed her the videos of planes taking off from Afghanistan during the pullout. Check this out.
Starting point is 01:03:28 This is another post. Ice plane leaves for Sudan. Sudan says ice plane never arrives. Ice plane arrives back empty. Shackled bodies wash up on the beach of Mallorca, downstream of a US regime air base. Also, all fake. The real story was that Trump flew,
Starting point is 01:03:46 was flying migrants to South Sudan. A court said he violated their order. They stopped in Djibouti where they were placed in holding and then did not move. Sudan then says, where's the plane that's supposed to arrive? It was in Djibouti because a court said stop. Trump then won the rights to do it.
Starting point is 01:04:02 So it may be that eventually they then will bring those migrants to South Sudan. Crazy leftists then say, aha, this proves it. I don't know if there's some of these other ones. All these pictures with Trump in the plane, they should have put Trump in a Pinochet costume. Indeed. Couldn't he have been dumping them near alligator Alcatraz? That's what they claimed
Starting point is 01:04:25 Okay, one of the one of the flight paths They posted was from Costa Rica over the Pacific and then back to Costa Rica And I'm like my dude We don't have migrants in Costa Rica and the body's washed up in the Mediterranean which is the from the Atlantic So they're literally just taking random things. There's one dude who's got 200,000 likes and 7,000 comments on TikTok indicating probably a million plus views. And he goes, I have no reason to connect these stories.
Starting point is 01:04:55 And then it shows five shackled bodies wash up on beach. And then it shows Trump shackles migrants. And he goes, but we cannot be naive. And I'm like, oh boy. Oh yeah, you can. So, Yes you can. I mean, this is the natural outcome
Starting point is 01:05:10 of independent media becoming a thing is that people may turn to independent media like this, but people also are turning to TikTokers to get their news and their information. So, I agree. And I think it's for the component is like that first woman in this video. Let me let me let me let me let me ask you, Brett. She talks about two things.
Starting point is 01:05:29 The first of which is Trump throwing migrants out of a plane. What do you think the second thing she brings up is? Have we not drugs? What's that? Sharks. That is actually one of the things you saw me talking about. One guy says this is shark infested waters. Okay. So they've graduated. But no, no, no, she goes on to start talking about it? Yeah. Uh-huh. One guy says this is shark-infested waters. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:05:46 So they've graduated, but no, no, no. She goes on to start talking about how she's not getting enough followers and shares from talking about this, which clearly means she's being shadow banned. I think this is connected to the 50th anniversary of Jaws, which just came out. Yeah, one. I agree.
Starting point is 01:05:59 This would be great promotion for the 50th anniversary steelbook for Jaws. It is. One of the videos is a guy saying, only is are the reports the planes are going out there's like one guy's been begging people to hear the story saying please because they're throwing his like the people he knew his migrants out of the plane. But these are also shark infested waters. Well I got some sad news for her.
Starting point is 01:06:22 China owns that app and they're known for sowing discontent in America. So I'm pretty sure they're boosting you if anything. I did just see that YouTube shorts have surpassed Tik Tok and views, though I think that has some funny business to do with how they what they count as a view now. But YouTube it like one of the crazy things is now people think that like, because of that that, just the fact that TikTok got banned by the US government allowed YouTube to, in meta, to come in and take all those views because a lot of people who use the platform gave up once they found out that it was going to be banned.
Starting point is 01:06:54 They're like, I don't want to invest a bunch of time into a platform that's going to get banned anyways. And Trump keeps pushing back the date on the ban. And he has no authority to do that. Yeah, through executive order. They don't want to enforce it anyways. But you know, that's who these people are going to watch. Now they're going to watch the lady on TikTok
Starting point is 01:07:10 in her living room, who's telling you that shark-infested waters are now being used to house migrants. That's great. Someone commented, Tim, if this turns out to be true, will you apologize? And I said, if it turns out to be true that Donald Trump is rounding up
Starting point is 01:07:26 illegal immigrants on cargo planes and then dumping them out of planes into the ocean, not only will I apologize, I will call for him to be impeached and convicted, as will literally every Republican in the House and the Senate. So there you go. I really don't think it's possible that this is actually happening. Did you ever see that GIF of the guy that's like, I prefer not to speak. If I do speak, I'm in big trouble. You ever seen that one? Well, that keeps going through my head.
Starting point is 01:07:53 I mean, look, I don't, it's, I don't think that there are any stories that people that hate Donald Trump won't believe if it's critical and you know cast Donald Trump and Republicans in a bad light and I think that this is you know more evidence of that whether it be you know this or you know kids in cages or whatever it is it they want to believe the terrible stories they want to hear them they it's they they want that fan fiction that you know Donald Trump's the evil orange man They believe it in their heart and everything they hear that you know confirms their bias. They're gonna be like yes It's true. I mean he looks pretty cool in all the artwork that they created for it
Starting point is 01:08:33 They're not doing a great job of making him look bad. No, but yeah, it is It's like the low budget AOC standing next to the fence crying It's like the lowest budget version of that we need to make a picture of her in a boat crying looking into the waters With like some shackled people? Well, I don't know. I'm not saying that. I'm saying she goes out to the middle. Yeah, do you know where that's from? I mean the portrait looks like his uh...
Starting point is 01:08:58 No, no, whatever movie that's from. You don't know? But what you're supposed to. Pop culture guy over here doesn't know what movie that is. Is don't know what you're supposed to I was pop culture guy over here. There's another with that with that what movie that is Is that the fugitive? No, it's not our Harrison. It's the one where the Harrison Ford was the president Force one was that it get off my plane force one. I thought I thought it was uh, where's my son? That's a ransom. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna give me back my son. Give me back my other like 12. Goodansom. Yeah. Yeah. And that's Give Me Back My Son. Give Me Back My...are there like 12 of those movies? Yeah. That's Mel Gibson.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Those are like...those lines are always like kind of written into my brain because they were in all the trailers in all the movies that I...like on the VHSs of the movies that I watched growing up. You know they used to make a lot of movies about people's...people trying to get their kids back. Yep. You know? Taken. Which is a great movie. Yeah. They made three of them. I mean that's a later example of it, too. That's a
Starting point is 01:09:46 Yeah, Ransom was like 90 is pretty funny that there's three takens. It's like dude at a certain point You're just not doing a good job. Well. He gets take a home He gets taken it's taken in the second one right? I thought the second one was his wife gets taken or something no it's like in the first one It's his daughter. Who's like the oldest-looking teenager ever. She's like 28 when they made that movie. Maybe it's her in the second one and him. Like he like has his daughter set off grenades in Poland in the second one.
Starting point is 01:10:13 I'm like, you probably killed like 20 people when you did that. Well, you know, whatever. I don't know, man. You know, my big concern with this though, is that the left believing this and they do, what do you think a person who thinks is as true as capable of doing? Oh, anything. the left believing this and they do, what do you think a person who thinks it's as true as capable of doing?
Starting point is 01:10:27 Oh, anything. I mean, that's why, that's why, what's his name, tried to kill Trump, you know, because of, or the guy that was in touch with people from Ukraine was trying to get out. I don't remember what the artillery or whatever, heavy weaponry that he was trying to get, but like he was trying to get whatever he could
Starting point is 01:10:44 to attack Trump and it's because the left has been saying, look, he's Hitler for a decade and it's going to affect people. And I'll say this, the reason why people can believe this story on the left is because they have been told the worst possible things about Trump were true for years. So for a sane person who's watched Trump rallies, who's actually knows the news,
Starting point is 01:11:08 the idea that Donald Trump is loading up cargo planes full of shackled immigrants and dumping in the ocean is laughably absurd. But if you're one of these MSNBC people, you're going, I knew it. It's just one degree more than they already told you he was doing. It's just, oh, see?
Starting point is 01:11:25 I knew it. I love how they're also claiming now they're posting pictures of alligator Alcatraz saying, and now Trump is building concentration camps. I love it. The more histrionic they get, the happier I am. I mean, these people are ridiculous. And if they actually believe this stuff, which I do think they do. I mean, they do, though.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Well, there's a certain, at least a certain percentage that do. You know, I like it and it makes me laugh because, you know, they're doing this to themselves by, you know, indulging these ridiculous fans. Well, it's stupid too because there's so much banal evil in politics that you don't need to get so histrionic with it. Like, there's plenty of evil in politics that doesn't have to sound so flashy. Most of it. Yeah. Yeah. Everything we're seeing with Trump's big beautiful bill. Someone's getting screwed over and someone's taking a buyout. Like Murkowski was given.
Starting point is 01:12:14 What was she given? Like, oh yeah, she got a boat. Yeah. Billions of dollars or whatever for Maine or something. Is that where she is in Maine? Alaska. Alaska. Sorry. Yeah. Collins is Maine, right? For 250,000 people. There's 250,000 people in the whole state if I mean hey if you live in Alaska you're going yes Yeah, I guess so well you know we're not gonna have we're never have the Sun all All winter, but at least we get all these goodies from the government Yeah, if you're up north the crazy thing is they got a long growing season with really long days and tons of mosquitoes big watermelons That's where they grow the big watermelons. Because the sun's out so long, you know?
Starting point is 01:12:46 They still pay people to live up there? I believe so, yes. Yeah, they get royalty from oil and stuff like that. I think we need to occupy Alaska. I think we need to invade Alaska. I think we do. Occupy Alaska. We got military bases up there.
Starting point is 01:13:00 There's a bunch of restrictions on being able to do any kind of development, but apparently there's a lot of resources and potential rare earths and stuff. But it's this massive landmass that's like as big as, what is it, bigger than Texas or whatever? We don't do nothing with it. I think it's like twice the size of Texas. Yeah, I think it's almost double.
Starting point is 01:13:15 You're gonna get my autism going, my conservation autism's triggering right now. This is a bit, go ahead. I was gonna jump to the next story story unless you wanted to add something. No, I'll ask after the... Here we go from Fox News. DOJ indicts suspect who went viral for delivering protective gear to anti-ice protesters on live TV. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Justice Department charges Alejandro Orellana, Orellana, with conspiracy to aid and abet civil disorders after delivering face shields. They got them, boys. Everybody was wondering who's paying for this. And it's not just this. So they got this guy.
Starting point is 01:13:52 There was that lady. I don't know if you guys saw the viral video of the black woman in Portland screaming at the ICE protesters because she's like, you're harassing us. I'm not sure if it was her, but somebody was saying these people are leaving and going into office buildings. Someone is paying for their access to these resources to be able to sit outside of ice. I think it's the government.
Starting point is 01:14:13 I think the state governments are using the far left as essentially corsairs. They want illegal immigrants. It gives them political power at the federal level. They get electoral college votes, the more illegal immigrants. It gives them political power at the federal level. They get electoral college votes, the more illegal immigrants they have, but they cannot use their sanctioned law enforcement to physically attack ICE.
Starting point is 01:14:32 They can sanction these street activist protesters all wearing masks and then say, oh geez, not us. It's just the people that are mad at you. But I think California, Oregon, Washington intentionally want the riots and they want to stop deportations. I don't know about, well, I mean, I'm sure that California, at the very least, they want to seem like they're trying to stop the deportations because that's going to look good to their
Starting point is 01:14:56 voter base. But they can't actually hit an ICE agent. Sure. LAPD can't be instructed to go attack ICE. They can tell the Antifa people to do it. They can put undercover personnel in with with Black Block Antifa on far leftist to instigate fights and then leave. That's impossible. I've told that Antifa isn't a real thing.
Starting point is 01:15:15 It's not even a group. Yeah, you're right. That's frustrating. You still hear that argument, too. You still really? You still like if you depends on how deep on Twitter you go, but you'll definitely still hear that argument even though you can point to like pages where you can buy merch. Yeah. In Facebook groups. It's frustrating because those like when it was the the January 6th rioters you know they go to jail with for you know for however long without trial or whatever and stuff and and when it's the uh when it's Antifa, it's like, oh, that's just an idea.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Nevermind the fact that you have video after video after video of people wearing black block or people dressed for a black block holding Antifa flags. But it's just an idea. It's ridiculous. So Trump is saying they may vote on the bill tonight. Interesting. They may pass it tonight.
Starting point is 01:16:02 And it's sounding like Republicans may be, they may have enough votes to do it, but we'll see. In the meantime, I guess I'm wondering with the escalation of the violence and resources for this, do we expect these protests, these riots, to reach a higher degree of conflict in the years to come? You mean like through the summer and then worse when summer comes around next year? There was just some kind of mass shooting in, where was it, like Portland?
Starting point is 01:16:28 Portland, Idaho. Well, there was one there, but in Portland. So I think it was, I'm not entirely sure what happened. I think a Somali guy yesterday was opening fire or stuff. I'm wondering if, you know, with these leftists arguing Trump is throwing bodies out of planes, do we start seeing something worse than whether underground level violence, bombings and attacks? You know, obviously you've been sitting here trying to crack
Starting point is 01:16:50 jokes and stuff, but maybe, I mean, I get death threats and I'm a total nobody, you know? So if it's reached a level where just idiots who get bucked off of horses for money are getting death threats, I would say it's pretty good sign that it's not gonna slow down and then you got this kid up in Coeur d'Alene that shot a bunch of firefighters Yeah, do we know what the motivation was for that? I haven't seen yet wasn't that he like applied to join the fire department was rejected I read that but I could have been I don't know I saw some Precure he was a lefty, I'll say that much, based on the things I saw.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Hated his man. So... And it's, you know, it's a travesty any time this kind of thing happens, but when one party seems to be excited about it, that's a dangerous thing. Mm-hmm. I mean, and their rhetoric has been pushing
Starting point is 01:17:44 for this kind of stuff for a long time and and the fact that There's been all kinds of violence from the left for the past for the better better part of the past ten years That's been excused. You didn't you don't hear Politicians speaking up about all of the riots in the street all the riots during 2020. In fact, they were you know Compares bailing people out. They were saying mostly peaceful. It was making excuses for all this stuff. And when you do that long enough,
Starting point is 01:18:10 then the people on the left start thinking, well, we can get away with whatever we want, you know? And there's the long held belief like that they push that the idea is that all domestic terrorism has always been a right wing idea, which is obviously because they never actually talk about anything that's done by lefties. Yeah, nevermind the fact that like leftists actually bombed Congress in the 80s.
Starting point is 01:18:29 They were in the house, there was a bomb and then Bill Clinton pardoned that person not ten years later or whatever. And then didn't one of them end up in Obama's administration as an advisor or something like that? I believe so. I believe so. And I'm not sure the details of it but I do recall hearing something like that. But again, you know they just say oh it never happens or you know that doesn't happen and ignore it or sweep it under the
Starting point is 01:18:52 rug. The shooter that went and shot up the congressional baseball game, Steve Scalise is still in a wheelchair because of that. I think he has to have a colostomy bag because of that. But oh you know that doesn't happenostomy bag because of that. And you know, but oh, you know, that doesn't happen from left. It's only the right. It's ridiculous. Attacks on Rand Paul, right? Well yes, those were there. There was the one that is his neighbor got into a fight with him and ran act. Rand actually had to subdue him and hold him until the police arrived, which good on you Rand Paul. But there was also the attack when him and hold him until the police arrived, which good on your, Rand Paul.
Starting point is 01:19:25 But there was also the attack when him and his wife were walking through DC and they were harassing him. This stuff happens regularly. And it's just always ignored. It's like, well, you know, and they make excuses. Well, you know, you can't oppress people this way, and et cetera, et cetera. It's all ridiculous garbage. make excuses, well you know, you can't, you know, oppress people this way and etc etc it's all ridiculous garbage. You can't allow this stuff, make excuses and not expect more
Starting point is 01:19:51 of it, you know? So. Well I mean there's a prevailing idea that all the violence is justified because they believe that the ends justify the means and that it's okay because they're working towards a greater good. Yeah, it's a... I just think it's social decay. I don't think these anti-people think anything, honestly. Like, I think they're just out there, like, duh, you know. There's a group of people, it's their friend group, their friends are doing a thing,
Starting point is 01:20:21 they're doing a thing too, they couldn't tell you up, down, left, or right about it. Mm-hmm. And the fact that it's always cast as, well, we're fighting oppression, and we're fighting the bad guys, you don't have to know much more than that. It's real easy to be like, well, clearly, my friends are saying these guys are the bad guys, so we gotta fight back, and we gotta defend ourselves,
Starting point is 01:20:39 and it's ridiculous, and I go on and on about it. Well, Aaron Bushnell like started himself on fire self-immolated and they said he should be proud for what he did I'm gonna leave that one alone Because I don't think that anything I have to say about Aaron Bushnell is going to be Tos friendly. Okay that so You know part of part of me kind of hopes that these people just fizzle out and give up. I Don't think that the same like with the amount of propaganda that can be found online and the way your algorithm feeds you material I don't think that's possible. I mean considering Trump winning the popular vote. I
Starting point is 01:21:21 Think that what honestly what needs to happen and I know that I sound like a broken record with this but like the better the economy is and the the fewer people are struggling And the more people feel like they're invested in society the Fewer radicals you're gonna have the fewer people you're gonna have that say well my situation sucks So maybe if we tear everything down, my situation will be better. There's a lot of people on the left that look at the situation like,
Starting point is 01:21:49 well, I don't have anything, and I got nothing to lose then. So if we tear everything down and I got nothing, I got nothing at the end of it too, so it doesn't matter to me. And if you get enough people like that, that feel that way, they're going to tear it down, particularly when you have so many young men that are in a position where they
Starting point is 01:22:09 feel, you know, like they're outcasts, or they they have no future and stuff, they feel like they can't, you know, either get a good job, or they can't find a wife or they can't, they'll never have a family can't buy a home, all these things that people feel like they can't have or can't get. I mean, they're, well, you know, what does it matter if we tear it all down? I don't know how we come back from the social decay.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Young people not only can't afford it, they mostly won't work for it. I hear it over and over again, there's these viral videos from business owners that are like, you know, Americans don't wanna do the job, so they gotta get illegal immigrants. Elon Musk, I think it was, was it Musk talking about this, that American workers are lazy?
Starting point is 01:22:46 I think that was Musk. That was during the H1B visa stuff with Vivek. And he's like, if you want to get a hard worker, they gotta be from India. And so that's why they do it. And my attitude is, no, just take what you've got and we've got to bite the bullet and we're gonna have lazier workers if that's the case.
Starting point is 01:23:00 But it doesn't matter, you're not gonna rebuild your country by bringing in foreign workers and letting your generation just struggle. But I think we're past the event horizon because Jan Alpha is way too small. If Trump does have these mass deportations take effect and denaturalization of criminals, we're going to drop 20 million people if he actually succeeds in this. I think the big beautiful bill is actually advanced now. It's not it's not advanced. It's moving to a vote. What you're looking at is them deciding whether or not they should consider it.
Starting point is 01:23:34 OK, yeah. OK. To advance the bill. See, that's why everything in government moves so slow is they have to vote to advance the bill just to vote on the bill. I mean, that was the big news over the weekend. It was like the Senate has it was like they voted yes on Trump's big beautiful bill What does it mean? It means they're gonna vote on I'm not kidding. They've a D Vance cast They cast a vote to bring it to the floor for a vote. I was like what politics Yeah
Starting point is 01:23:56 So yeah, apparently right now I've got I've got the PBS live pulled up they The Fox of North Carolina amendment on agreeing to the amendment You're gonna go to New York to buy your groceries and then you have to vote to sell you the groceries at your government run grocery store. On that H1B thing though, didn't Microsoft just lay off like 2,300 guys and then apply for like 6,000 H1Bs to replace them with? Wow. That doesn't make sense if your argument is the Americans are lazy, because it takes twice as much to replace them.
Starting point is 01:24:27 That's kind of weird. Yeah. Yeah. They should stop the H1B visa program. I don't know that it's going to happen, or that it could happen, or what the process would be. But the H1B visa program, it's not bringing in people that are necessary to do these jobs.
Starting point is 01:24:42 It's not like the, what is it, the O1 is the, is the, the. What is, what is O1? Exceptional Talent? Yeah. Where you, like you have some kind of special reason to come to the US. The H1Bs are just like, come on, bring people in and then you get chain migration. I'm fine with it. I just don't care anymore. Like guys, you know, there, I think this country's got too many communists. I just think, I think everyone's a communist. I said this before, I'm only half kidding.
Starting point is 01:25:07 When people come to me and say that they deserve entitlements, I'm like, communism. You know, I'm not literally communist. I'm just saying, how did we become a nation where people are like, I deserve free stuff from the government in any capacity, any, literally one penny, free roads, free whatever it might be,
Starting point is 01:25:25 the government is gonna take from somebody else to give me a thing that I want. I mean, well, just the whole like, you know, basic, what is it, UBI, universal basic income, I don't know where that idea came from, but that's extremely popular with people, young people on the left. And all that will do is just add to inflation
Starting point is 01:25:44 and that'll be the baseline cost for everything you know whatever it is that that you you give to the people that for you know thousand dollars or five thousand dollars or whatever it is a per month it's just going to end end up adding to inflation which is only going to compound our problems if you ever want to look at the hellscape look at r slash anti work on reddit like it's awful oh I mean let's pull it up dude it's it's it's an ideological cancer there's 2.9 million people in the anti-work subreddit pay labor a fair wage Mark Ruffalo says extreme wealth of billionaires are making us desperate not immigrants that literally makes no
Starting point is 01:26:22 sense it makes no sense at all. A man working for the most capitalist industry in America, the moviemaking industry. I do also want to point out that I think it may be a lot worse than people realize. Right around COVID, during the whole COVID period, it kind of just feels like millions of people died. They like maybe because they did, I don't know. But look at this on the right of the page. How many idlers does it say?
Starting point is 01:26:53 Anybody? That's an idler, where? On the right side, it says idlers. There's a number. Almost 3 million, 2.9 million. 2.9 million, okay. How many not working? 747. What that means is there are 2.9 million. 2.9 million, okay. How many not working? 747.
Starting point is 01:27:06 What that means is there are 2.9 million people subscribed to the subreddit. Right now, only 747 are actually there on the page. It used to be that it would say 2.9 million and you'd have 200, 300,000 people actively. We call that the 1% rule. How is it now that Reddit has millions of people subscribed to this, but only a few hundred?
Starting point is 01:27:28 This is true for every single subreddit. I've been feeling like this for a while, that it seems like tons of people just stopped interacting and disappeared from society. I mean, it could be dead internet theory. Yeah. Or it could just be that I mean dead internet theory that their bots would actually inflate the number. The number should be higher. Yeah. Unless all the IPs would be in India. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Maybe. I don't know man. Nobody wants to work. What if this is just a cover with the fact there's no workers? Well, I mean our unemployment is too low for it to be I I but not the unemployment doesn't count people not looking for work So if we have 40 million young people who aren't even trying to work because three million say don't work They don't count towards unemployment I've always kind of wondered it sort of looks like we paper over the real unemployment rate with BS college degrees too. Not that there's anything wrong with college or whatever. I'm saying we put people that otherwise would be in the workforce into a BS degree pathway
Starting point is 01:28:34 just to take them off of those numbers, you know? And then we're just sucking wealth out of them. So the big news is that the House is expected to vote on Trump's bill in one hour. Well, interesting. They're talking about it in the after show. Earn their government paychecks working late. Yeah, we may have big breaking news tonight. This will be interesting.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Is Mason wearing her pajamas? It is sounding like it will pass, which is surprising. Yeah, that's why they're going for a vote. I wonder if there have been any changes or what the What the wrangling inside the house was like yeah I think people are saying poly markets giving it 70% so you can gamble on the bill. That's gonna have gambling Yes, you can yep Let's see poly market. Let's pull in your poly market reconciliation bill
Starting point is 01:29:29 70% by July 3rd. Oh man look at that 3% chance if they vote on in the next hour that is a massive payout. Somebody's about to make some good money. You better put some money on that. I ain't going anywhere near it. Look if I put a hundred dollar bet you'll win two thousand. What? Bro. For real? That's a value bet. You got a hundred bucks toss it in there. If you wager on I don't think we can use polymarket in America 2000. What? For real? That's a value bet. You got 100 bucks. Toss it in there. If you wager on, I don't think we can use Polymarket in America, right? Oh really? If you wager $100 that the bill will pass by tonight, you will win $2,611. That's wild. How come no one's betting on that? They're saying like, oh, you know what it is? I talk about it all
Starting point is 01:30:02 time. We're, we're on the forefront of the news. The polymarket's not. So when the tweet breaks right now, and I'm reading it literally, it was like 26 seconds. It was tweeted 26 seconds before I read it, where it says they're planning on voting on this now. Most of the people who are wagering on this are gonna find out in an hour or two.
Starting point is 01:30:22 So is DraftKings publicly traded? So you're gonna have like sell the stock now before they vote on it if they end up having to do all this stuff with reporting. It's going to be funny if they're like, we decided that stock is gambling. You are wagering on a company's success. It's entirely a function of chance.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Never going to happen because Congress. Because they make too much money on it. Uh-oh! Lookit! Here we go, here we go, here we go! The number dropped. More and more people are gonna start buying July 2nd right now. It's actually even funnier to think that there's just a bunch of like people in Congress that are just really into gambling that vote against it just because they really wanna keep gambling.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Hmm. If you bet $1,000 you win $11,000 you gotta do it. Oh, what if you bet a million dollars? Only 300 grand Cuz it only pays out with it. What what is in and the cap the caps really small That's crazy No, I don't I think poly markets illegal in the US is it legal are we like I don't know it's funny that it is because it's sponsored like the the all-in podcast sponsors them and they've actually got some kind of
Starting point is 01:31:35 Where poly market sponsors the all-in podcast? Yeah, they talk about poly market all the time They got some kind of deal with it. They could be I know that I think call She is like the first legal market or whatever. I don't even know what Caulsey is. Caulsey is the legal American one. Let's find out. Here we go. Look at this. When will a budget reconciliation bill become law? 85% says before July 5th. What is this? Before August. 98%.
Starting point is 01:32:03 These are terrible bets. I don't want to wager on any of it guarantee that to be before August yeah well I don't understand I don't get it either Polly markets got a better got a better question look at all these these people mill around in Congress what are they doing who's that guy look at him talking who's that guy guy? Yeah, what's he doing? Doing nothing and using our money for it. Wow. That's standard Congress. Something's happening. Should we find out what's going on? The nays are 212. The amendment is adopted. The question is on adoption of the resolution as amended. Those in favor say aye. Those opposed no.
Starting point is 01:32:47 It sounds like there's 30 people there. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. Gentlemen from Massachusetts. I will have to insist on asking for the yeas and nays. Yeas and nays are requested. Those favoring the vote by the yeas and nays will rise. Especially number having risen, the yeas and nays are ordered. Members will record their votes by electronic device. It just makes me hate politicians more. The chair will remind everyone... I love how it's just like the eyes have it.
Starting point is 01:33:14 In the house. It's my opinion. This is a five minute vote. They're laughing. That's funny, huh? Hilarious. All of that laughter just cost you so much money Well, what was the amendment to the bill because they said they meant here we go
Starting point is 01:33:30 on agreeing to the resolution as amended 80s is this is this so hres 566 this is the rules isn't it? This is not the big beautiful bill I Have no idea what I love the 80s motion graphics though It's like c-span yeah looks straight out it looks like something straight I mean the government hasn't updated any of the computer systems Why would they update this you know? Actually knows it's c-span. It's not a government. It's PBS so Maybe maybe it is So when it's saying as amended doesn't mean as amended by the Senate and then brought back or does it or they saying they?
Starting point is 01:34:12 Amended it again in the house. So this is HR one I'm pretty sure HR one is Trump's big beautiful bill the omnibus So this is HR hres 566 which I think is just the rules So this is HRS 566, which I think is just the rules. I see. So it's like all Congress does is waste time. You gotta be such a gosh damn nerd to get into this stuff, dude. Not making fun of you. They intentionally have made Congress convoluted and nonsensical,
Starting point is 01:34:39 because all they're trying to do is steal power from each other. So it's like any technicality I can use. And so it's become this ridiculously complicated, nonsense waste of time. I mean, I just love the, in the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it, smile, and it's like... Clarify. You knew that he was gonna clarify.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Okay. There we go. And so what, all of the members are there right now sitting in their chairs or something? I don't know. I mean, I think so, I assume so, because they all wanna cast their vote. You know, I feel bad for people who get in Congress because all their job really is is
Starting point is 01:35:12 to stand up in the well and yell about stuff and complain and then not actually do anything. And they could have just become a YouTuber like me. Way more effective. Seriously. I would argue that I and members of Congress do an equal amount of work towards changing things. Because, again, but no, that's actually not fair. They do less in that they don't do several shows per day. They only do their stand up fake outrage periodically,
Starting point is 01:35:43 so they can fundraise later. Well, that's the thing. They spend most of their time fundraising. Yeah, but their stock portfolios look so fantastic. There is a reason to be there. That's true. That's true. If I could buy a stock and then vote on a law
Starting point is 01:35:56 that's gonna have an effect on the stock, I'd be looking great too. You know, maybe that's the American dream, you know? Serve one term in Congress, pump your portfolio, and then retire with benefits. And a pension, right? I mean, the American dream is to slip in the wrong driveway and sue. That's the real American dream. To slip in a supermarket?
Starting point is 01:36:16 Yeah, or like a rich person's driveway. It's to get hit by a truck in a wealthy neighborhood? Like just in the right way. Like you can still walk, but. The American dream used to be work really, really hard. You could buy a house and your kids have a better future. Now it's hope that the car that hits you is owned by a millionaire.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Yeah. Try and run across the street without a, or try jaywalking. Well, look at that kid. What's that kid doing? He's like dancing. It's a movie Richie Rich where the guy gives him the blank, or the movie Blank Rich where the guy gives him the blank check
Starting point is 01:36:45 where he gives him the blank check and he just writes a million dollars into the check and then spends the money. My favorite part of Richie Rich was when they break into the vault and he's like, Where's the money? And he's like, in banks. In banks? Like if you're a kid that just blew your mind the first time, he's like, Oh, that makes perfect sense. Why would he have rubies in this giant vault? The vault was just full of like paintings and pictures and memories. It's like family photos.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Yeah. And he's like, what? He goes, Banks. Banks. Alright, we got one minute remaining. It looks like the yeas. How come it says yeah, but they call it aye? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:24 That's how you spell ye, ain't it? It is. Only if you pronounce it, it's ye. Ye. Yes. Wait, does it know H? Yeah? Yeehaw.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Yehaw? Yeah. It means yes and ye. Nay. Why don't they just say yes and no? Why do they gotta, you know... Err... They mean different things?
Starting point is 01:37:43 Are those no votes representative of people that are not there? I have no idea. But you can clearly tell that most people aren't there. Right. They got 30 seconds left, and there's only, what are we looking at, 75 and 59? 134?
Starting point is 01:38:01 And didn't Massey win during COVID on the whole quorum issue? I don't know. You have to have a quorum in order to actually pass something. At least two-thirds of the House has to be there? Yeah. On agreeing to the resolution as amended. So they voted for an amendment and then voted for the amendment as amended, and now they're voting on the resolution as amended. I just started hating politicians even more than I did before just by that description.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Worse than lawyers. Yeah. Okay times up and the yeas have it. The time is up, but they're still voting This is all fake. And they're yeah, they're supposed to be calculating this with electronic methods They're not doing a right in ballot. So two people have voted after time three people's Unreal so here's what I understand clearly the Republicans aren't there and the Democrats aren't there So how do the Republicans win because shouldn't the Democrats be like hey guys when the Democrats go home? Let's win the vote Yeah, you'd think you'd think well, I, I mean, they're only five votes away from winning.
Starting point is 01:39:09 How hilarious would it be if the Democrats win because Republicans weren't there? I don't know how anything ends. They just had to go to bed too early. Or what might happen. There you go, it's going up. I think this is on agreeing to the resolution. The amendments that are put in it. I think if the Republicans lose this one, they go back to debating what's in the resolution.
Starting point is 01:39:30 And then get rid of that gambling stuff and everybody can keep gambling. They may have, who knows? Because that Democrat from Vegas was saying she was going to get rid of it. I do think that stuff might just end up going to the courts because there will be lawsuits about it. Like every casino in the country, every gaming industry. We'll have the money to go throw just millions of dollars at attorneys. But I think it can settle instantly. I think the federal courts will just be like, yeah, we're not doing this. There's going to be like 800,000 lawsuits over it.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Yeah, that makes sense. I think I heard a few months back that revenue generated from betting on the UFC exceeds the UFC's revenue each year. Wow. I think I read that. UFC is awesome. Yeah, it is. Those are fun to watch. See all those people making money like betting on whether Angel Reese will make her first shot in the WNBA.
Starting point is 01:40:21 Did you see that wasn't it that I read somewhere that Kaitlyn Clark came in ninth place? Among players. Among players. First in fans, fourth in media voting, ninth in players. Cause they're just jealous. I mean, to be honest, I've never liked the WNBA more. It's just basically Foxy boxing.
Starting point is 01:40:38 It's turned into WWE. Oh yeah. I like saying Foxy boxing. Cause WWE is when you say that people think of guys. You know? What the WWE? Yeah like when you tell someone we're gonna watch WWE they're thinking about big sweaty guys.
Starting point is 01:40:51 I just- But when we're talking about women fighting each other you think Foxy Boxing. It's also turned into like a you know it's like a dog and pony show. Everybody's fighting and arguing with each other. I do think it's funny that at some point some guy was like let's have boxing matches with hot women beating each other. We'll call it Foxy Boxing boxing and they're like that's brilliant and they made money doing it Did they still have that? Is lingerie football still around? I have no idea
Starting point is 01:41:14 Vince McMahon's thing right? Yeah, well Vince McMahon is not exactly allowed in in conversation in polite conversation He is not. No. Oh, let's see. Is Foxy Boxing still around? No. Yeah. All right, we're going to go to your chats, my friends, while we wait for this vote on whatever they're voting on. Smash the Like button. Share the show with everyone you know.
Starting point is 01:41:34 We're going to have that uncensored call-in show coming up at 10 PM at rumble.com slash Tim Castaurel. You don't want to miss it. We are waiting to see if they vote on the big, beautiful bill, which may happen at any moment. So I will say this. In the event that they do move for a vote, if it's looking like closer to 10, they're going to move for a vote, we'll keep going live and we'll keep it as the, you know, we won't go to the uncensored version just right away if we're going to have major breaking news live. So we'll hold that for a minute. But for now'll we'll grab your rumble rants and super chats
Starting point is 01:42:08 Let's go All right, Shane H. Walters says alligator Alcatraz sounds like an early 2000 sci-fi movie like shark NATO and honestly I'm here for it goes hard. Oh and happy birthday Brett man. You always live mass. Happy birthday Thank you. You're in Taco Bell. I did have some time. I ordered all of the Taco Bell It does sound like a 2000 movie. You should watch Vela's a pastor if you haven't seen To be honest like someone should make an alligator Alcatraz film. Yeah. Oh, yeah, or at least a fake trailer where it's like You know the plot right itself. Okay, there's an old abandoned flooded prison The plot writes itself, okay? There's an old abandoned flooded prison
Starting point is 01:42:45 where the urban legend is that the warden was corrupt and was taking kickbacks that he was storing in a safe back in his office, but nobody dares go there because it's flooded in a swamp. And then they go there and there's a gigantic alligator that lurks around and starts killing people on the team. And then in the end only the the main attractive guy and the young female co-lead escape and only with some of the money yeah I mean they still haven't made that Street
Starting point is 01:43:13 Sharks movie from when I was a kid that's what they were they were gonna make a Street Sharks movie should there should have been a full-length Street Sharks they've mined every other property what was that show like a bunch of skateboarders got bitten by sharks or something or something? That in VR troopers the ones everybody forgets about we're talking sharknado level stuff here. Yeah street sharks. Oh Whoa, it's 138 to 136 because two Republicans would know Who's that? Agreeing to the resolution as amended like again. I think that means they're saying we agree
Starting point is 01:43:46 This is what the bill is if you're seeing those like streamer videos We're like a guy sits and watches a video of somebody drawing something. He's like oh, this is cool You could do that with this you could be like wow Wow to voted no, I want you just you just do this you you point up at it and shake your head Yeah, and go like that and go Doesn't have to mean anything. All right, let's read some more Evan for us says evening everyone join us in our growing YAL organization as president of the Fort Bend County chapter
Starting point is 01:44:15 I'm asking anyone who wishes to fight for liberty to join your local YAL chapter today and help All right YFK says as an Asian eating rice with your hands is like Trump putting ketchup on a steak Man wait, so they're saying that that's endearing Okay, lady tight says I hate giving Tim money But I'm dead-ass convinced this damage is irreversible It's gonna collapse at some point and you 100% need to stock up on family, bullets, prayers and shelf life, it'll get ugly. Yep.
Starting point is 01:44:48 Yakinda, Yakindia says, have you considered the gambling impact on state lotteries? This is actually pretty interesting because what the government is basically saying is they want a cut of all of the money spent on state lotteries. They're basically saying like we want 10% of all that money. That's pretty wild. Yeah, that's crazy. The federal government is saying, Oh, the Democrats are winning. The time remaining has been zero for 10 minutes. And the Democrats are winning by one vote. I don't understand the rules at all. Time slows in that chamber there. They've got some type of time. Okay, if I was a Democrat right now, I'd be like,
Starting point is 01:45:22 I'd be banging being like call time call time call time we win we win right the nays have it right now at 154 154 to 153 the nays have it two republican defectors you think massie's in there oh damn it's 160 to 154 now the nays have it so what the hell are they doing they're transferring it from electronics to parchment or what they got a little quill they said that it was the electronic vote start. So Democrats could win it. You got two Republican defectors already, man. I am extremely interested to see what happens with the actual bill if it actually passes.
Starting point is 01:45:58 If they do end up voting on this, like what's what's poly market if it passes, it goes directly to Trump, right? It doesn't have to go back to the Senate. Unless they change it. It goes right. It goes directly to Trump right? It doesn't have to go back to the Senate unless or do they change it goes right? It goes right to Trump. Okay. I think yeah, I think if it's changed let's go back to the Senate again I think so. I don't know. All I know is poly market says 72% chance. It passes July 3rd I suppose the assumption is it'll be passed midnight when it does pass the fourth has got 78% But if it passes tonight when the next two hours
Starting point is 01:46:24 That's a lot of money. Gonna get paid, boy. Gonna get paid. All right, let's see what we got going on here. Whatever happens says bingo time, we understand church bingo. Yeah. What? Voodoo says, Tim, you need to talk to a tax expert, not a gambler.
Starting point is 01:46:40 You are wrong about how the tax filing works. In fact, I've talked to politicians accountants and professional gamblers but if you'd like me to interview a tax account I would the so the reason why I Was saying that this is actually worse than we thought and that gambling is the wrong phrase because it's wagering and the tax code There's no definition a clear definition of what wagering is in law, but there was a Supreme Court ruling I think it was in 19 was a court ruling in 87, set precedent saying that a wager is money placed on any contest where you could win from a prize pool,
Starting point is 01:47:14 which is why a lot of people started freaking out, saying like, hey, this could wrap up fishing tournaments, or like golf. And the argument is that the element of chance is slightly the conditions but largely the amount of money you win. So they say if you enter a contest where it's a hundred dollars to enter the contest and your chance of winning money is not guaranteed, it's determined based on the amount of people who entered something out of your control, your winnings are chance. That's
Starting point is 01:47:43 that's the legal argument. If the contest says a hundred dollar entry fee with a guaranteed price of ten thousand dollars, that's when it becomes skill. Because many tournaments are prize pool based, the government argues that's actually a bet, a wager. So that would be taxed. That's why people are freaking out. Anyway, but who knows? The big issue is that taxes are all interpretable and they change based on how someone's
Starting point is 01:48:08 willing to interpret it. And then the IRS calls you and says, we disagree. And then you go to court, you argue. And a judge says, I don't know, I guess maybe. So here's a question for you guys. Are super chats and rumble rants tips? I would get my first response would be to say yes. They may or may not be, we don't know.
Starting point is 01:48:25 There's no clearly, so that the typically in tax law a tip is something given without consideration. Consideration is a legal term for something of value. However, I guarantee you the government would argue that me reading some of them is consideration. If you pay me money, I will read your chat. However, guess what? There's no guarantee. It's a game of chance. When you super chat, the likelihood
Starting point is 01:48:55 that I read your comments is random. You don't know what I'll end up picking, and honestly, neither do I. I just read which one pops up, and it seems to like Make sense to read and we can't read all of them. So the so I've talked to my accountant about this I've talked to lawyers about this with the no tax on tips if
Starting point is 01:49:16 If you want it clean we could say we will no longer read super chats And that means every super chat sent is a tip because you are giving money in exchange for nothing. However, the other argument is by virtue of it displaying your comment, that is legal consideration where you are offering up real estate for an individual to buy ad space for their views. So we don't know if it's a tip or not. We don't know. See guys, that's why you watch Pop Culture Crisis.
Starting point is 01:49:44 We read all your Super Chats Monday through Friday, me and Mary. We do. Every last one. Every last one of them. Except for the ones that Mary thinks might be important. Less Mary thinks that you said something important than she might not read it. I'm not reading that. Rofflo says, yes, Trump is building concentration camps for the illegals.
Starting point is 01:50:02 He wants them to study American history. And what better way to get them to study history than a concentration camp? Well, it's just a camp where you can go to concentrate really hard on what you're learning. Shedick says, all professional sports, it become nonprofit and donate to a cause, and use the donations to pay the donation workers based
Starting point is 01:50:18 on the time they provide to gaining contributions to the cause. Now no tax. Oh, man. All sports leagues no tax. Oh, man. All sports leagues are nonprofits. Yo, the nays have it. I remember when somebody told me that, I thought they were lying to me.
Starting point is 01:50:31 I was like, that's crazy. Well, because the teams are owned by individuals, right? Or it's not for profit. Yo, check this out. The nays are up 15 with four Republican defectors. I think that's it. If it was, I think that's it. I think Republicans lost. If it was, I think that's it, I think Republicans lost.
Starting point is 01:50:45 If it was, what was it? It was 2020, I'm sorry, it was yeah, 220 to 212 was the split on the first vote. This would tie it, it's currently tied with the four nays. If every remaining Democrat votes, it'll be 216 nays. And if every remaining Republican votes yes, it'll be 216 yes. Ty, vote. What happens then? It's all fake. It sounds like a movie script. We're in a simulation, bro.
Starting point is 01:51:19 This is to see if they are going to leave it as is or approve the amendment, right? So I think the last vote was agreeing on the amendment as amended, and now the resolution, do they agree that this is the final resolution as amended? And if it's no, they're going to go back to debating the big beautiful bill. I mean, look, I hope it's no and I hope that they actually make it worth voting on. I think if they change, I think they've already amended it, which means it's got to go back to the Senate, right? I'm not entirely sure, this is so weird.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Let's ask the robot. If the House passes a bill, I think that's why I went to the House, then the Senate amends it, and it goes back to the House, who then amends it. Does goes back to the house who then amends it does it have to go back literally Katanji Brown Jackson as she was writing her dissent with the amendments it will have to go back to the Senate before could be this is an according to Eric Dautry he just said five minutes ago when it was only two he said if they lose one more vote for the big beautiful bill they can only lose one more vote for the big beautiful bill to advance so they lost two more so it's it's not it's over yeah it's over
Starting point is 01:52:30 and uh again with the event with so so the no actually could be preventing it from going back to the senate if they say no no amendments so i don't know maybe the next this might be good for trump it might be that the republicans voting well i don't know why maybe the next this might be good for Trump. It might be that the Republicans voting. Well, I don't know why the Republicans will be voting yes on the amendments then. I'm assuming it's bad for Trump and it's the standard holdouts that are holding out. But it looks like the nays have it. So the bill is not going to be agreed upon as amended. I'm confused then. If they if they amended, has to go back to the Senate.
Starting point is 01:53:04 The Senate's got to vote on it. And I knew it's going to happen. The Senate's going to amend it. It's back to the Senate The Senate's got a vote on it and then you know, it's gonna happen the Senate's gonna amend it. Mm-hmm It's gonna keep going back and forth forever Before August What a dumb system. Um, I do think however there is a strong probability we are we are going to keep the Congress up live and delay or not even go to our uncensored portion if we have major breaking news literally happening right now. So you know usually we do this rarely for those that are familiar.
Starting point is 01:53:35 If there's going to be a big moment with a debate or a speech or some big breaking news we'll just keep the show going for a reasonable amount of time. If it looks like after this vote, they are going to have another vote, we'll just keep it live and keep staring at it. But in the meantime, we can definitely read your chats. But Tina Molina says, "'Phil, the gate theory discussed the other day
Starting point is 01:53:56 isn't about liberal or conservative, it's about rural versus city. Rural people know that gates are usually meant to keep critters in their pedics not people out I'm not sure if that was the context but What were you talking about? There's a there's a I don't know Oh, you were saying like if someone walks in the middle of nowhere They know to yeah There's a gate if the conservative would leave the gate closed because you don't know why the gate is there and there's probably a reason and
Starting point is 01:54:24 Liberal might open the gate because they're like, oh, you know, you should, they're comfortable to change or something like that. But again, it's, it's, I don't, I don't have the, the, the, the whole thing is not clean, clear in my head. So that means there's like a person who just goes up to doors and just opens them. I mean, there are people that are weird, But what if, but what would happen if this gate was there and a rural juror went up to look upon it?
Starting point is 01:54:49 Juror? A rural juror. Rural juror? A rural juror. What are you saying? Rural juror. Rural juror? A rural juror.
Starting point is 01:54:59 What is a rural juror? It's a 30 Rock joke, come on. Oh, okay. You know this, right? I don't know why, I don't watch 30 Rock. I've never seen it. She, um, what's her face? I don't know why, I don't watch 30 Rock. I'm next to you. What's her face? I forgot all the character's names.
Starting point is 01:55:07 Tina Fey's? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Jane Krakowski's character. Oh. She's in a movie called Rural Juror and she keeps saying Ruljer and no one knows, Ruljer? Like, what is that?
Starting point is 01:55:18 Good God, Lemon. And no one knows what the name of the movie is. Rural Juror. All right, Groudy says, buck, buck here and a buck, buck there. Glad you are there. It is amazing when the chickens are out walking around. We have one of those automatic doors that when the sun comes up, the door opens and the chickens walk outside
Starting point is 01:55:36 and they do their chicken business. But yeah. So here's the thing, though. If you drive a couple blocks down, maybe like half mile, their chicken's just running around. And it's funny, you'll see just a chicken, there's no houses, you're like, where is this chicken coming from? And there's a rooster just standing by her, looking all serious while the hen eats, because
Starting point is 01:55:56 that's what the boys do, you know? The boys stay and watch to make sure the girl's safe while she eats her food. And then when the cars come, they both run full speed, just like off into the distance. Now the most magical thing we have out here is there's a stream that is only after heavy rain or in the springtime when the snow melts, and it's in a wooded area connected to a pasture, and the cows walk down through the forest to the stream and then stand in it
Starting point is 01:56:20 and drink the water, and it is magical. There's a farm on the way to this ledge that I skate all the time and it's got huge signs up front that say the horses lay on their sides, it's normal, don't call anybody. The horse is not dead. It's not dead, it's fine. Leave it be. When it's sunny especially. They do look dead.
Starting point is 01:56:42 Half the time I get nervous Horses don't like they always sleep on there on that standing up or they can sleep They can sleep standing up, but they like to lay it out. I mean they'll spread out just like a dog Yeah, who doesn't who doesn't like to yeah, I kind of like myself actually Richard Dillon says hey Tim What can I do to make my voice heard on the issue of gambling tax write-offs in the big beautiful bill? I'm a semi-pro poker player and I've invested thousands of hours studying and playing over the past two years. If this passes, I don't know if I can vote Republican again. Doug Polk is one of the most famous poker players
Starting point is 01:57:14 in the world. He's got half a million subscribers. He's got millions of fans and followers. And he told me today, I hope Trump's bill fails. He says, it's attacking my industry and I hope it fails. And he's not a political guy. And I'm like, that's so brutal, man. We need this to pass.
Starting point is 01:57:30 But they've got normies who are uninvolved in politics now rooting for its demise over this. And that sucks. Yeah. But whatever. I mean, moral victory. Woo. The handling is bad.
Starting point is 01:57:41 It might be bad for that industry, but it would be way worse for the whole country if the bill doesn't pass because you know That's just an argument to not have omnibus bills though. Well, yeah, of course I'm gonna but I think this is where conservatives and libertarians really come together in that The libertarians don't care if they lose so long as they showed everyone how principled they were Yeah care if they lose so long as they showed everyone how principled they were. Yeah. So I'm glad that Republicans are very happy to stand up and say ban gambling and then potentially lose Trump's agenda over it to show the world how righteous you are and how virtuous you are as the Democrats take over your country and
Starting point is 01:58:18 burn it down. Yeah. The libertarian, like I got into it with libertarians today because I was like you know I'm not really a libertarian anymore And they're just so focused on you know being principled that they would allow their opponents To have all the power of the federal government just so long as they're like, well, you know, I was principled They're being beaten over the club by the left and then I'm going dude guy just stop them from hitting and he goes No, that would be unprincipled. I think part of that is because there's actual conservatives in politics, and libertarians seem to occupy more the realm of theory because they don't ever get elected.
Starting point is 01:58:55 So obviously, politics and theory is vastly different from politics in practice, and you have to make vast changes when it's actually in practice. So when all you're doing is focusing on a theoretical concept, it's easy to be principled. It's very different when you get... Again, it doesn't mean that there isn't a problem with bills of this size, which force garbage like this through, but it is the point, right? Is that eventually you have to do something about it. All right. Cale says,
Starting point is 01:59:22 Phil, as much as I want the HPA in short in the Big Beautiful bill, if it passes with removing suppressors from the NFA, it makes suppressors illegal in 17 states. I don't... Why would it do that? I don't know why they believe that. I read something about that too, some language in like Montana and some other states that apparently...
Starting point is 01:59:42 That's what people are claiming, but I would tell you that Montana will just take care of that problem overnight. Yeah and the federal government has or at least the Trump DOJ has said that suppressors are you know protected under the second amendment. They consider them protected in the second amendment so I don't know why that would be the case and I'd be interested to hear the the chatters you know what the reason was or hear more information about it because As far as I know it that wouldn't be the case or at least that wouldn't be the case the the position of the DOJ Now obviously another DOJ when when yeah, and Trump is no longer in office could change that but at the same time anything that the you know, anything that that is law now
Starting point is 02:00:29 could change, you know, in another administration. So I'm not sure why they believe that. Yeah. And if you're a pro to a guy, we all are. So far as I can tell, proliferation is your friend. So the more cans you can get in hands, the faster, the better off you are. Yeah, you know, common use tests and stuff. So this vote right now is to bring the bill to the floor, and it looks like it's dead. Yeah.
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