Timcast IRL - Trump Threatens To BOMB Oman To HELL As Iran War DRAGS ON Threatening GOP Midterms w/ Allum Bokhari

Episode Date: August 18, 2026

On this episode Phil & the crew are joined by Allum Bokhari to discuss Trump threatening Oman & says he will bomb them How ending USAID has changed everything Alex Jones sounding the alarm as viewership is down everywhere & for everyone Tim addressing the Jubilee "rage quit" Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) |  @TimcastTateBrown  (YT) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest:  Allum Bokhari @AllumBokhari (X) Trump Threatens To BOMB Oman To HELL As Iran War DRAGS ON Threatening GOP Midterms | Timcast IRL

They say Donald Trump has lost his mind as he's threatening to bomb the ish out of Oman. Oh, boy, because if the war wasn't already bad enough, dragged on this long. Trump's saber-rattling, I guess. We'll see. I guess, you know, Oman is doing a backroom deal with Iran. Trump's pissed. Okay, I guess. It's hard to know what's actually happening, but what I can tell you is that Republicans better get their acting gear.

Because the midterms are coming up like two and a half months. This matters. They're actually predicting now, Polymarket and Kalshi, that Alaska is going to become a Democrat state. Can you believe it? To be fair, I think it's because they're cheating. You know, Dan Sullivan, the Republican is now running against, I believe, two other Dan Sullivan's. They're doing this intentionally to dilute his vote because, you know, what is politics these days? Which brings into another big story, Jubilee.

Episode came out with me. And I'll just say right off the bat to all of the libs. Gleefully slapping their knees, like, Tim Poole rage quits. It's all fake. It's all like semi-planned, like, you know, it kind of makes me cringe. But we'll get into it. I talked about it earlier today. But it's all, I don't want to call it scripted, but you kind of know as a nudge, nudge, wink, wink. Everybody kind of already knows what's going to happen. To put it simply, for those that are wondering, and I won't waste time. The dude had a beanie in his pocket in 96 degree weather in Los Angeles. Come on. It was a stunt planned. He was

tipped off. I had explicitly stated anybody tries to pull a stunt. I'm going to walk off. We all agreed. We knew it was going to happen. It happened. And the exact outcome that everyone thought was going to happen happened. What can I say? But I have a lot to talk about and we'll and we'll get into all of that stuff with the, with Jubilee. But we also have the death of Hayden Panetteer as well as the Lindsay Clancy story, where women are lining up to dump money on a woman who admitted to killing three, killing her children, her three of her children,

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Word of mouth is the best way to help podcast. It's really the best. You tell your friends, like, hey, you do watch your show, you should watch it. And I send the link out. Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Alan Bacari. Hi, guys, Alan Bacari here with Foundation for Freedom Online. We fight against tech censorship. All right on.

It still exists. And, I mean, you've been an OG. You've been on the show a lot over the years. It's been a minute, though. Yeah, back in 2022, I will say, on the specific issue of tech, that has done a complete 180 since 22. It's getting interesting. Yeah, when I was last here, every social media platform was censored from top to bottom.

And since then, Elon Musk has bought Twitter. Trump has defunded the anti-disinformation state. There's been a lot of progress. It's been great. Well, let's catch up. Good to have you. We get the boys hanging out. Yeah, what's going on?

Yeah, 2020. That was the dark ages for sure. You brought up the camera inside the TV or whatever. Have you ever seen that patent that Sony has where you have to clap to end the ad? What? They have a patent where in order. It had a bunch of applications, but one of them that they presented was, in order to speed up an ad, you would applaud and say, yes, I love McDonald's. That sounds terrible.

And they have it through 2030. That sounds like a black matter episode. We might see that coming soon to our television. In order to skip the ad for Timcaste IRL, you know, they stand up and clap and salute. It'll be great. Or the Casperu ad. Smash the light button. We'll skip through that.

Bill, what's all the on? What's up, everybody? I'm Phil. What's up, Carter? What's up, guys? Pump to be here. Let's start the week off fresh. Let's get into the news.

Here's a story from Mediite lost his mind. Trump sparks fury with threat to bomb the ish out of ally. Great. The president confirmed there's a direct back channel with the IRGC official. He's talking about Oman, of course. And he said he's going to bomb the ish out of Oman. He says, they're good poker players, but they're dying. He also reacted to the ongoing talks between Iran and Oman regarding the control.

If Amman gets in the way, will bomb the ish out of them. Reactions came in from across the political spectrum, as many were taken aback. Trump's threat to bomb Oman. Okay. Okay. I got a million and one people hitting me up. And this is the point where I got to say to the Republicans, to the GOP, you guys have lost whatever goodwill was left on this war with Iran.

I got normies that, you know, for a while we're like, eh, you know, like people that I talk to because I'm a poker guy, right? So I'm talking to regular people out in the middle of nowhere and they'll say, well, you know, like every president started a war. I'm not surprised by it. I'm not happy with it. Now they're at the point where they're like, I'm sick of it.

I'm sick of the news. And I'm getting people like texting me, being like, yo, what's going on? Trump wants to start another war and like, what's happening? And I'm just like, is Trump trying to spike the midterms this late in the game? I mean, come on.

I don't know that he's trying to spike the midterms. I think that he's, I mean, he's historically he's got, you know, his mouth gets in front of his brain a lot. You know, he'll sit there and he'll make some kind of audacious remark. but to your point about, you know, people losing, you know, faith in the GOP because of the Iran war, I don't disagree, but I don't know exactly what the right move would be. Like, do you just say, okay, done and pull out? I mean, I don't know what, you know, what kind of options the administration has now. I mean, I think this is why it's so frustrating because this is, you know, at the outset of the war, what all of us Trump supporters were saying while we were.

so frustrated with, you know, with the operation. You know, many were like, oh, you're not trusting the plan. It's like, well, no, because there isn't really a logical victory condition here. I mean, the victory condition is what? regime change. It would have to be. That would be the only thing you could walk away from this war and say, you know, from whatever our goals may be in the region, that it would be worth it.

But we knew that was going to be impossible, A, from Iraq and Afghanistan, that was a disaster. That was a failure. And those are countries far less complex than Iran. I mean, Iran is an incredibly complex country, very ideological. This is the one thing that the proponents of the war have correct is that, yes, they actually are ideological fanatics. And that's what makes this war so difficult. That isn't an explanation for why we should go to war with Iran. That's actually a caution not to go to war with Iran is, hey, they're ideological fanatics.

And so far as no matter who you take out, they're going to put in more officials that will possess the exact same ideology. So from the outset, this is going to be very difficult to get out of, out like total victory. And I think all of us knew that that was mathematically very unlikely to happen. And here we are where we've seen reporting from various outlets throughout the war that Trump is fed up with this. He's tired of this being kind of strung along. But to your point, Phil, I mean, what off ramp is there? I mean, the off ramp would have been near the beginning of the war, which was take out their nuclear facilities like we did last summer and then figure out a stalemate. Instead, now we're vying for control over the straight, which, you know, the status quo was the

straight was open. So returning to the status quo would be victory. Now, it's just a complete mess. This is what all of us were really worried about from the outset. We did have people that were like, no, it's fine, nothing to see here. To Tim's point, the Normies, right? The disengaged voters, you have about a three to six month window with controversial, you know, if you're expending political capital, you have about three to six months to mop that up before the Normies notice. The Normies are starting to notice now. You're seeing it reflected in the approval ratings. And they're now asking like, okay, the gas prices are high and now they're not going down. So what's going on? And they're actually opening CNN for the first time. And they're like, oh, we're at war.

That's like 50% of the country. Well, it's like, like prairie dogs, I imagine, you know, they pop their little heads up every once in a while, but they don't really pay attention. But then the car pulls up and the guy's got bread and he's handed him out. And now all the prairie dogs come running up. And unironically, this is the worst time for this kind of stuff to be happening. And I'm not even joking here. Like, you can look this up in Google Trends and find out this is true. It's because there's no sports going on right now. The NFL, I'm serious. I'm serious. The only sports in season right now is like what the MLB and the MLS. No one cares.

The World Cup's over. The NFL hasn't started yet. The NBA is still like sputtering. So like people have nothing going on. They're tapping into this kind of stuff. They're checking the news, et cetera. And there's nothing flooding their algorithms. Let me just, let me just add to this.

But you know, in the political space right now, you're seeing a lot of like, oh, so-and-so's views are down. They're attacking Ben Shapiro. They're comments about us. But guys, go to any other rating metric from any other industry. And ratings are in the gutter. And it's kind of crazy because I've said, like, obviously for us, when you're in a political, like when you're off cycle in politics, we expect the viewership decline. But now I'm looking at other viewership metrics and other areas, like TV shows, for instance, and like Disney Plus and like we're seeing a decline in ratings on cable TV, everything.

And I'm sitting there being like, wow. You know, I was watching a sports podcast, right? Viewership was way down. I'm not going to drag anybody over this, but it was like a big sports podcast. and they were getting like 100K per episode on YouTube. And I was like, whoa, and you go back seven months, and they were getting 800,000. Who would have thought that President Trump was actually going to be the Harding candidate

or the Harding President that brought us back to normalcy? And so far as like Normies feel like they can finally disengage from politics, disengage from thinking and return back to the bread and circuses. But the bread and circuses, we have elaps right now and gas is really expensive. So they're putting down the bread and circuses for a second, reengaging with like the news cycle, maybe not like the podcast cycle. And they're like, oh, wait, Trump. started a war. I thought that was this whole thing.

Bro, I have a conspiracy theory. Let's go. What if USAID was funneling money for internet bots to create the perception of population? You think there's a lot of people, population is growing and whatever, because you're getting, you're seeing a million views

and a video two million and the views are going up and up and up. And then Trump cuts all that funding off. Yeah. And then seemingly instantly, every industry is like just, it's just gone. It's the Pyongyang effect where they have all their new buildings with all the lights and the LEDs, and they take all the pictures and they're like, look, Pyongyang's like, it's all happened. We've got a lot of nightlife.

And then at midnight, they cut all the lights off and it goes dark again. There's never anyone there. But it's the perception when the photos go out to outside of North Korea that like, hey, you know, everything's kind of happening. And Pyongyang, little as they know at midnight, it all shuts off. One thing I'd like to do is astroturfing media was a big part of what USAID does. This is my favorite response to critics who say, oh, They got rid of USAID.

They got rid of, why would you get rid of giving food to starving Africans? Well, you know, one of the things USAID did, we actually have an article about this at the Foundation for Freedom Online. What's the title? I'll pull it up. Let me pull it up here, actually. Foundation of Freedom Online. I'll get it. Keep going. Yeah, about Internews.

So Internews is one of these global NGOs that USAID funded to the tune of $400 million. And the one thing that Inter News does, they have one mission, which is to create media and train journalists all around the world. That doesn't sound like giving medicine and food to starving Africans. That sounds like astroturfing a global media empire, which is exactly, of course, what they were doing. It's kind of creepy because it's strange how there's that joke about 1984 wasn't an instruction manual. But it wasn't just 1984. It's all of these dystopian novels.

It's as if they were being used as instruction manuals. and then Trump got elected in 24, dropped a bomb on USAID, wiped that out, and now all of that stuff is kind of disappearing. Yeah, I don't know how much USAID, I don't know that you can overstate how much the effect of getting rid of USAID is having globally, never mind just, you know, with media and stuff like that. I do think that it's likely that the money that USAID was funneling around was heavily influencing, you know, basically anywhere that they could possibly, you know,

dump money into, they were doing it to just to pad what was a progressive mindset. I think a good heat check will be, uh, 2028 for the Democrat primaries is what will the size of the rallies be? Because, you know, people pointed out with previous Democrat primaries, the rallies had a good crowd. And then people would kind of come through the numbers and they're like, there was these weird shell companies set up and they would pay off, you know, certain people. And then all of a sudden, you know, Kamala Harris had this big packed rally and whatnot. And then also you would see the same people at like different Democrat events and that sort of thing. And then we saw this week they had like the Democrat version of TPA USA.

You know, we got TPA USA at home. Tmu, TPA, USA, whatever you want to call it. And no one's there. And you're like, dude, during the prime USAID days, that place would have been packed. Are you talking about the stuff that Destiny's involved with? Yeah, whatever that is. Like, dude, back in the day, back in like prime USAID days, that place would have been packed or would have been like, you know, the sparklers going off and like pulled answers that were probably transgender.

It would have been fantastic. It would have been super exciting and whatnot. But you go there now, there's like 10 people in the crowd. I think the same thing is going to happen in 2028 when you're looking at the primaries, the energy, or the Democrats going to have that same energy at the rallies without the slush fund, right? Without the money going around ensuring that they can pull in people, that they can pull different speakers, all these things. You make a distinction between the Democrats and DSA stuff? No, not at this point.

No, the DSA owns the party. There's a couple polls that just came out saying the Democratic Party voters overwhelmingly now prefer DSA. Yeah, I mean, the Democrats might have the steering wheel on the throttle, but the DSA is the engine. That's all that really matters right now. So the name of the report is Into News, backed by 400 million USAID Warchest, pushes ad blacklists. So this is particularly audacious. Not only were they astroturfing a global media empire, but they wanted the ad industry to cut off money from any of the competitors to their. air-controlled media.

Let's pull this up. The Foundation for Freedom Online. So this is from just about a month ago. Yeah, yeah. Intern News backed by $400 million U.S.AID War Chest. Oh, it's the ad blacklist. Let me just start by saying, guys, USAID is the boogeyman you thought it was. It was doing the things you thought it did.

And right now, since it's been about a year since it was nuked, we are seeing viewership metrics across the board for basically everybody going down. This can be explained in a lot of different ways. It could be that TikTok and Instagram are taking over. Long-form views are going down. But I'm seeing even for a lot of people who produce shorts on YouTube, their views on shorts are way down, which is also very strange. YouTube's now announced they're going to change the way they count views. Trying to get those numbers back up.

They're like, the moment you click it, it's a view now because they're just, they know it's all dropping. I wonder how much of our online consumption was fake viewer numbers and fake. fake comments to trick people into believing an idea was popular. The idea is this. The propaganda network can make a post saying Donald Trump is bad. Then they can get 100 bots to comment on it, give it fake views. So to the average American, they see this video with a million views and a thousand, 10,000 comments, all saying Trump sucks. And they think that is the popular opinion. And when you take a look at how people, particularly women, like I'm just trying to be real, which is how they react to stories like Lindsay Clancy, they just say, okay, fine, whatever is socially acceptable, I'll pretend to believe. So tell me, Alan, what's going on with this? They're lying. With this, this report. Like, what was USAID doing?

So over several years, they gave $400 million to this organization called Internews. And it's run. They have. have various outposts around the world. They have a European wing. They have an African wing, Middle Eastern wing. And all they do is train journalists and train media back by this huge train journalists and media backed by this huge funnel of, of US government money. That has obviously since been cut off. And what our report focuses on here is the fact that Internew CEO, as late as 2024 was saying that it was trying to whip up the advertising industry to do the kind of boycotts that cut off that used to cut off establishment media. They used to starve anti-establishment media of ad dollars. So not only were they cultivating a global media empire, astroturfing it

essentially with US federal taxpayer dollars, they were also trying to censor the competition with ad blacklists. And I find this story, I come back to this story often because you'll, again, and again, you'll see people like Stephen Colbert, you'll see liberal media saying, I can't, it's so, how could we lack the compassion to take away, aid, aid from around the world? Well, it was, they were hiding a global influence operation. Yeah. They weren't just feeding starving children. This is, it's funny because it's like, it's literally a network of super villains

dominating the world through surreptitious means, manipulation lies. And then Trump just head butted it. And now it's like, I don't. even know, you know. And you know, I don't even necessarily disagree with the U.S. employing soft power around the world. This is a normal thing that all, you know, great powers do. The problem is that so many of these organizations, and we see here with the ad blacklists, were pushing censorship of domestic U.S. media as well. Yeah. Yeah. They did it all through the previous administration. It's one thing if you have like a, you know, for black or better word, a ministry

of culture that's promoting like, I don't know, like top gun to the world. And it's like, that you could presumably see how that would benefit American solace. power or even like just amplifying, you know, the aspects of American culture that we would like to export to the world, right, that reflect better on us or maybe that like sort of finger wag at the rest of the world and say like, hey, no, we're still the top dog. But, you know, we can all, I think, you know, we can all like flush out how that money actually got spent and sort of the Well, I mean, Afghanistan is a perfect example, right? The, the, whether or not, like, regardless of your opinions on the morality of, you know, young girls going to school,

trying to tell people that live in the tribal regions that, you know, that are very religious, that know you have to accept, you know, homosexuality or, you know, people that are, are extremely against those, those kind of progressive ideals, you know, the Pride Progressive Flag. Like, yeah, it's, it is, it is preferable from my perspective that young girls can go to school. It is preferable from my perspective that women be allowed to, you know, own property or go to go to work by themselves or whatever. That's, that's the kind of society that I want to live in. But that doesn't mean that you can just export those ideas to other countries and other cultures that have lived the way they live now for hundreds or thousands of years, you know, like. and it's not a good policy to try to make every other country in the world into a modern,

liberal, progressive society because they just don't have the ability to do that. You can't take people that have lived a way for a certain way for a thousand years or whatever and say, okay, now we're going to turn on the lights. Yeah, yeah, we can just, sorry, but simplified, you can't tell a bunch of Afghani goat herders to be gay. Well, it's left-wing. Well, actually, that's a better way to put that because maybe you can't put a bunch of pride flags and trans stuff in front of a bunch of Afghani go-hers. Because I think a lot of them probably are gay. But you can't explain to them how you can chop off somebody's dung and give them hormones.

They're going to be like, I don't know what those things are. Yeah, they're more like, that's a little too on the nose. Like, relax. No, I think the problem is like, and I guess it's good that we have a Brit here because this is like a good to distinguish is like colonialism, is a good or bad. It's like, well, what we've been conducting is like left-wing colonialism, right? We're like, we are imposing our will on the world, but then we're imposing like an obviously ideologically left-wing, well, ideology. But like the Brits, I think are a great example of like colonialism as it should be understood, which is inherently hierarchical, where they would go into somewhere, I don't know, like, you know, Afghanistan, maybe not the greatest example, but like India. And they go in and they're like, actually, no, we're not interested in like helping you govern your own affairs.

like what you guys are doing is ridiculous. We're going to come in and like impose our will because we're actually correct and like have a hierarchical system and they're confident in what they believe, etc. And they impose their will on whatever country they decided to colonize and it benefited everyone involved, unarguably. Versus the way the United States has conducted, our empire has just been a disaster everywhere you go. And I hate to admit this is an American, but maybe we're not the best at conducting empire. Well, yeah, I mean, the European colonial powers have been like incredibly maligned in history.

I thoroughly recommend the works of Bruce Gilley on this. He's a historian over in, I believe, the University of Washington, or University of Seattle, perhaps. He's written some fantastic books, debunking decolonial myths. And one thing I get from reading his books, especially about the British Empire, is that they always considered the facts on the ground of every territory they govern.

They didn't try and impose a single ideology uniformly everywhere. Like if there was a native, a local, practice that they were completely horrified by, like, you know, like widow burning in India, which they were, or that thing where the young dudes raped the other young dudes in Afghanistan. Right. What's, I don't know what that's called. Bacha-Bazi boy. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Yes. So they're like, why would we ever allow that? Yeah. Yeah, they did get rid of things like the widow burning, but, uh, but in other cases that widow burning. Yeah, the, the sarty, yeah. It was a, it was a, it's so crazy, dude. Yeah.

It's like, ma'am, your husband's dead. we have to light you on fire. It's totally real. And she's like, okay, guess I'll die. Is that what happened in New York on the subway a few years ago when that lady got burned? Maybe.

Would the women like, you know, resist? Would they be like, no? Or would they be like, well, you know, that's the way of life? I would imagine they probably resisted, but yeah. Yeah, you know. The last one was in. No, my husband's alive. He went out for cigarettes.

He's just tired. Usually don't like getting, let him fire ordinarily. Well, that one Palestine protester. He was okay. I was going to say that there's like, there's a lot of people that, You know, maybe you could argue they don't like it, but they want it to happen. So, like, I'm not even saying as a joke.

There may be, maybe people who are, like, crying and sad, but they're like, oh, but it's good because I'll be, you know, doing the right thing or something. Yeah, but to your point, yeah, I mean, like, the British, for example, like, they had a line in the sand of, like, what was, like, actually moral? Like, what would be, if we oversaw this happening would, like, literally take us out of communion with God? That was, like, their standard. But when it came to, like, I don't know, procedural things, they were just like, yeah,

do your own, do your own thing. like we'll extract resources and, you know, just leave us alone. We leave you alone where the Americans come in. And this is, and Trump made this point. And it's like an absolutely correct point in 2016 when he was like critiquing the Iraq war. He wasn't doing it for like Libtar, like anti-war reasons or whatever. He was just like, where's the oil? Like we did all this work. We built all these highways, like sent all these men to die and whatnot. And like we didn't actually extract anything from there. So we actually had this very correct understanding of how like empire should work. which is it's mutually beneficial.

It benefits the people because you're providing them with Western governance and it benefits us because we're extracting resources. But the American, neo-conservative, neoliberal, whatever we want to call it,

the main flaw is that it's purely like a benevolent colonialism where we're just trying to impose an ideology on them and nothing else is to be gained. We were almost hesitant to extract resources because we felt bad about it.

Meanwhile, the British went into Iraq and they were like, wait, all these artifacts you have, you're like using them to like hold up stoves. No, we're going to take that. We're going to keep in the museum. We'll make sure you guys stop killing each other. Stop burning the widows. Besides that, do your thing. So, like, they came in. They had, like, a very rigid hierarchy. And unless there was an infraction upon that, they would, like, leave them their own affairs. And the United States is the complete everyone. And one key thing which they recognized was that they had this general idea that they wanted their colonies to eventually be able to self-govern and have constitutionalism. But they also recognize that not every colony, not every society.

would move there at the same speed. Not everyone was ready. And going back to the historian, I'm reading his biography of Alan Burns, who was the British Empire's defender at the United Nations in the 1950s, when every nation was trying to get Britain to decolonize. And what he repeats again and again to the other delegations, especially the Soviet Union, was that, you know, not every colony is ready for independence right now.

Well, and then the British decided to give up on that. 1960s and 1970s and I guess Ian Smith was the last guy that was like still adhering to that and he was like wait what that was like our whole thing we weren't supposed to like turn this over until they were ready and then they did the pincers moving along with Kissinger and it was a total disaster and the result was chaos across the decolonized world I mean that you all you wasn't Wakanda down there I mean you often hear you know arguments about the death toll of colonialism and some of this is like ridiculous holding you know European powers responsible for famines that it couldn't really prevent but you don't often hear about the death. death toll of decolonization. Yeah. I would say the Rwandan genocide is arguably that the death toll of decolonization. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things where it's like, while we can concede that like, of course, there were, you know, whatever atrocities may have occurred, that occurs in every country ever.

That's just like part of like, I don't know, human history. So this idea that like, you know, every European colonial power was supposed to be gave 100% you know play a perfect game for 400 years like obviously that's not going to happen to your point it's like I don't know if we're to weigh out like the atrocities that happened during colonial rule versus decolonization um I think far more blood was shed in like literally the 10 years of decolonization in Africa than like the hundreds of years of rule colonial rule and I want to speaking of the media stuff jump to the story we got this tweet from Alex Jones he says live shows on XC 90% reduction in viewers after change in algorithm

are we witnessing mass censorship or just a huge bug in the system. Alex Jones fires the bad signal to Elon Musk. I'm just going to go ahead and say right off the bat, as we've already been mentioning, everything is down in terms of viewership, literally everything across the board. Like I mentioned, there was a sports podcast that I was watching, and I was shocked to find that one of the biggest, they got like 100,000 views. And I was, I jumped back a year and they were getting 800,000 views. I'm like, wow, what happened in this summer where people have just stopped watching? Now, we, We are presuming perhaps it was all USAID that they were attempting to prop up either through bots

or otherwise various channels to make it seem like they were more popular than they really were. It's mass manipulation. Let's say Tate makes the funniest joke in the world and it naturally gets a million views. We don't want that to be culturally relevant. So we find some other person and give them 10 million views. Prop them up, put them on the front page of TikTok and tell everybody to chop off their dong dong or whatever. Well, Alex Jones believes that there is a conspiracy. Well, let me just put it like this.

I'll play a clip in a second. But I responded. And I said, my honest opinion is that you can't go pro-Trump for 10 years and then Trump critical and be surprised if your audience drops up. This is not an insult or even a criticism. It is a point of observation to which Alex called boomer slot. My response is, open an ice cream shop. And over the years, you have customers who love it.

One day you announce you're going to be V-Emm. Egan ice cream and customers stop coming in. This isn't an insult, Alex. So I'm just going to say this. There's a few things here that I want to break down. We already mentioned right off the bed. Fake media manipulation through bots. Who knows?

I got no idea. I don't have any strong explanations as to why a sports podcast viewership was down or just, you know, you look at some of these other big shows on YouTube and everyone's viewership is down. So we're trying to figure that out. But I have long maintained that I believe there's an attempt to pop. Piper people away from Trump. So how do you do it? Well, when you look at the likes of Candice Owens, that debate with Andrew Wilson last week was absolutely amazing. I learned so much about how

both of them define words. It was great. I learned very little about the actual case itself. But Candice, she's a liberal, then she's a conservative. She marries in the House of Lords. Now she's saying basically that turning point is bad, Trump is bad. pulling the moderates and the suburban women who voted for Republicans away. This is the Pied Piper strategy, in my opinion. Alex Jones has been chasing after it. He's been saying, he has one tweet up where he says he's, he's starting to think that Israel was involved in Charlie's death or something like that.

And he's saying, you know, he thinks Candace may be right. He is clearly chasing after that audience. The only problem is that audience is overwhelmingly female. He went after it. The point is very simple. since Trump came down that escalator, Alex Jones went from being the establishment is bad, the machine is bad to. No guys, Trump is legit.

He's good. Alex then went from being police critical. You know, him, Apologies of Watson would do a lot of police brutality videos. Very libertarian and conspiratorial to. Now we are supporting the government as long as it's Trump. You spend 10 years building up that audience. They burned his channels down. They deleted his channels and he launched new ones.

and that new audience is following him because he sells a certain product. He is anti-fake news. He is defending Trump until the past few months, Alex Jones, flipped, got called out by Trump and has not been very Trump critical and is shocked. His viewers are declining rapidly. Now, again, I'll say this. I don't think that's the principle reasoning he's seeing a viewership production. Everybody is, but I'm curious what you guys think.

No, I think you're absolutely correct. That's a great take. I think, you know, Trump lumped him in with Candace. with Tucker with Megan Kelly. The difference between him and the other three is that Alex has been going to the map for Trump for 10 years, to your point, where Candace, Chameleon, we could lay that all out. Tucker, people always knew he was somewhat Trump critical. He was pretty critical prior to 2016, obviously, or 2017.

And then even 2020, as all that was going on during his generational run, you know, texts were coming out that he was pretty critical of Trump and that sort of thing. So people always understood Tucker always had one foot out. Megan Kelly, do I even need to say, she's always had a bone to pick with Trump. So with them, when they start to do their own thing, the audience is already primed for that. They're like, of course, that's why I'm following you because I know you're not a Trump loyalist. Alex Jones, that's why your point's so excellent is, yeah, his audience was all Trump loyalists. They were all like, this guy goes to the mat.

Yes, he's funny. Yes, he's a bit kooky. I mean, though, like, infamously with the jar behind me, turns out to be correct oftentimes. But people understood this is a guy that has identified that Trump is the bull in the China shop and he's going to provide the commentary to explain what he's doing. So Alex Jones, I think separate from the rest of them, got put in this tough spot with Trump's latest decisions where he's like, well, I don't know about this whole Iran war thing.

But yeah, when you flip on Trump and you're known as a Trump loyalist, like, you know, in pop culture broadly, yeah, your audience probably isn't going to follow you. They're going to go elsewhere to find. Yeah, it's fragmentation. Yeah. Where, again, so like the previous point, Tucker, Candice, Megan Kelly, they were never perceived as Trump loyalists, really.

Candice, no one knew what she really stood for, and Tucker and Megan were always seen as kind of these one-foot-out. I think it's pretty obvious. If I was going to make a bet, I'd say that Candice and Tucker are getting a large foreign audience. I think Tucker actually said that. I think that was, you know, correct if I'm wrong. Yeah. Candice, unfortunately, I think, has a pretty large domestic audience, but I think she's tapping into an audience that was never conservative. I don't even know if they're really political.

She's tapped into, like, the TMZ audience, if I had to guess. It's women. Have you guys followed this Lindsay What's Her Face? Clancy story You got, this is a woman Who admitted to murdering her children And she's fighting for an insanity plea And there are women that are saying

It's impossible she killed her kids Because she's a Leo And they raised almost a million dollars For her family And I'm just like You know, I'm not really I repeal the 19th guy But

Repeal the 19th These are like the same people That were like defending Amber Hurd Like these people have been around for a while. And they exist in their own like wine drunk like world because I never meet these. I don't know who these people are. I never meet them. But they're like a huge. I mean, half the country is voting Democrat and the majority of people I meet are Republicans. So clearly like I'm not going to the places that these people are. And those people love Candace Owens. That's just the

reality of the situation where Tucker and Megan Kelly, Tucker I do think might have a larger contingent of his audience that is that is foreign. But Tucker does have like a bit of a younger audience. Megan Kelly, I don't know what's going on. I don't even know if she's getting great viewership anyway. But yeah, Candace is tapped into an audience that's never been engaged politically to begin with. And that's actually a really bad thing because it's like if it took you until 2026 to get engaged politically, like you're cooked. Like you'll take anything and you're not going to be able to think clearly. Like, yeah, I guess if you entered the political like spectrum in 26, you would think that everything is trying to kill you at all time.

I'm just going to do this, right? And I'm not doing this to insult Megan Kelly or anything. I'm not going to pretend like, you know, right now live on YouTube, we have 13,500 concurrent views on Rumble. We have 11,000, which is, well, I'll just say this. This same time in the political cycle, in the previous political cycle, we were averaging around 27,000 concurrence, which we're doing right now. So it's a little low. Nothing that's really shocking to us, but my mind is blown when we look at Megan Kelly's YouTube channel. She's got a clip where she got 114K.

It's pretty good. She's got one from four hours ago, 85K, 40K. Look at this. She has a show that she just put up 16,000 views in two hours. She's got a clip here, 11 minutes, 5,000 views in two hours. Look at this one. This clip is 8,000 views. And again, I'm not trying to rag on her.

A one hour-long show, 20,000 views. Megan Kelly was crushing it a year ago. And so again, this is not meant to be. be derisive, but her views are very, very down. It's kind of mind-blowing to me, to be completely honest, because, like, my morning show still averages about 180,000 per clip, and I do three or four per day. Yeah, but imagine if you came out and you made a video and you said, you know what, actually, I think skateboarding is pretty gay and I hate skateboarding. You know, half your audience would leave. They'd be like, even if they're not skateboarding fans, they'd be like the reason, you know,

Tim's going to flip on a dime like that. I can't trust this guy. And that's what a lot of these people are experiencing is like they're doing a sudden heel turn. And even if they agree. They're just like, that's not why I subscribed. Like, I understood who you were and what your politics were, but it turns out you have this, like, very schizophrenic ideology that I just can't, like, compartmentalize. And so I'm just out. I also want to

point out, you know, she's got one with 240,000. She's got one over here with, like, 3007. I'm not saying she's like, not, like, you know, this one's got 3070,000. But when Alex Jones is saying, like, oh, it's a, they're, they're striking at the algorithm, this is their, their, one of views, is like, I mean, bro, everybody who played this game with Trump is seeing that for sure.

Yeah. You can't be pro Trump for 10 years. And then, well, not her for 10 years, to be fair, because he said she was bleeding out of her wherever. But for a certain amount of years, I'll say this for Alex. When they nuked all of his platforms, his longstanding audience is largely wiped out. Jason Ellis made a really great point for those. Actually, we got to get this episode. I didn't interview him. We got to get it up.

He said that, you know, he used to have the biggest show on Sirius. It's because people would get in their cars, turn the car on and the Jason Ellis show is on. When COVID happened and people aren't driving anymore, he started hearing from people saying, And I used to listen to your show all the time. And he's like, it's still there. You can listen to it. But it's the habit that changed. For Alex's views on X, I think what happens is his ex audience was built after the banning.

So he's largely built an audience around I'm defending Trump. You then come out and invert your product. People are going to be like, no. Yeah, there's also this weird. There's like a type of person. I think Alex Jones and Megan Kelly fit into this perfectly. I'd be curious what you guys think. of a person that is famous

and everyone knows who they are and what they stand for but they don't actually like watch their stuff they're just a famous person but they're almost like a Alex Jones is almost this stand in in popular culture when you're like thinking of a conspiracy theorist

you think of Alex Jones but no one's really like watching his data or you know not no one but a lot of like the majority of people aren't like watching his data stuff and to be fair to Alex Jones like if anybody is going to speculate that they're like a victim of the algorithm he would have a good case because he's been consistently banned through his old career

But I'm tired of seeing people that aren't actually saying anything that's particularly, like, dangerous or edgy that are like the algorithms targeting me. I'm like, oh, your content just sucks. Like, that's just the reality. Yeah, I was going to say, I understand Alex Jones's reaction because he has been sent since so many times. Yeah. Indeed. This is a fair perspective. This is why YouTube's changing how they count views.

Because views are down for everyone. And that means add dollars are down. Yeah. So it's a combination of things, right? you're going to get less, less dollars per thousand because advertisers, the bids are going to go down and they're going to see less traffic on these videos and they're not going to prioritize them. So if you're an advertiser and YouTube says, look, we can get you 20,000 views. You're going to be like, I don't like here.

As I understand it, you know, the majority of advertisers have given up on eyeballs is like a metric for how much they should spend. They now spend money on CTR, like click through rates. So now most advertisers are like, well, I don't care if you get a million views. how much product are you moving? That's not click through. They're looking for direct sales. Yeah. They just want to see some sort of metric that are like, okay, well, people are like engaging

with the ad. But this is USAID. 100%. Look, guys, I'm going to tell you a story. I don't know if I'm supposed to tell you the story, but I'll tell you the story anyway. So Rumble, legit. Rumble views, legit. Always have been.

There was a conspiracy accusing Rumble of bodying their views and making it fake. You know, and Chris, the CEO, he got so pissed off. He's like, we were investigated. The SEC investigated Rumble. It's real. It's a real website with real views. But these people were always, you know, these liberals, these leftists and even some conservatives trying to argue that it was fake.

I think, I said this at the time. And you guys can look back on IRL and you can see me say it. I said, I think YouTube's views are fake. Here's what I think happens. So Rumble's trying to get advertisers. But these rumors persist, the views are not real. So advertisers are hesitant. Twitch, on the other hand.

just gets big contracts with one of the big beverage companies. I forgot which I think might have been Pepsi or something. And these companies will go to a platform like Twitch and say, don't know, don't care. Here's $50 million. Goodbye. They don't care about conversions. They only care that they're spending the money and the brand looks good.

Meanwhile, for Rumble, the advertisers are all hesitant. They said, we'll only spend with you if you can guarantee proven sales metrics, which makes it increasingly difficult for Rumble. I think everybody else is fake. I think YouTube and everybody else is fake. Here's what I think happens. I think these big networks are propped up, big tech. We know there was back doors from the feds and all that stuff.

And they make it look like they're famous. They make it look like that's where the culture and the zeitgeist is. Rumble comes up, totally independent, without any weird games with no body and no tricks. And the metrics don't look the same. The comments aren't, the view kind of different from comments. comments, what's going on? And then everyone said, how come Rumble's views to comments ratios, they're different? Because the rest of them are fake, because Reddit is fake, because YouTube is fake.

Because those are where they're trying to prop things up to make you convinced what's popular. Like Reddit being a great example. So I'll just say this about Rumble as to why there's a handful of reasons and ways that we've tested because we're like, you know, first, I trust Chris. And the SEC did investigate them. But we have sales. like we sell coffee and stuff and then we actually track our metrics across the board

from video to video and everything looks if you were if we were when we ignore platform and we combine all our views seasonally everything looks very much the same as it always has it's just that some views are now

in Rumble and some are now on YouTube but all the metrics look the same and then Tate gets recognized and he principally hosts the noon Rumble show so when he's got people being like I watch you at noon I also ask people when they come up to me

I'll be like where do you watch they'll say, I watch you on Rumble. And I'm like, okay, I think YouTube now is to change their metrics because something changed, something weird is going on. I'll just say this. Do you guys remember when Elon said it was going to buy Twitter? And then instantly, conservatives started seeing their follower count skyrocket. And liberals started seeing their follow accounts rapidly decline.

That was weird. And you can't explain that. And they said, no, no, it's because liberals are leaving the platform. Oh, and then conservatives are joining. spare me. That is not reality. Yeah. Yeah, I know. It's like this idea that, you know, the Rumble views are, they're fudging the numbers, something is ridiculous. I mean, I won't break confidence about it. I had a buddy who featured on the Timcast Daily News live show, and he's, you know, relatively low follower count,

like not a huge following at all. And he's had like two people come up that recognized them from that noon live, independent of anything else Timcast related, where... Rumble exclusive. And I actually had one person. come up to me. And they were like, I watch, you know, I watch your noon live or whatever. And I was like, oh, thanks for watching. And I was like, are you like a Timcast fan? And he's like, no.

So it was like this weird moment where like he doesn't even really watch IRL. He just watches that noon live. And I think it was a habit thing where he was just like on my lunch break. He said he's an east coaster. So he watches on his lunch break. Yeah, they open up Rumble and they watch. So it was one of the smartest things that Rumble did was the morning lineup where they have the like, like a network shows in rotation. Yeah.

But that was when I was like, you know, first of all, I'll say it again. Like when else was going down, I'm like, there is a weird coordinate effort to get an ad boycott of Rumble. Because Rumble was basically saying we're going to allow people to say what they want. And this is during COVID especially. But I bumped into people who are like, I watch you on Rumble. I don't watch on YouTube anymore. And I'm like, interesting. So YouTube is now desperate.

And what we're seeing behind the scenes is that YouTube is easing up on the censorship, desperate to get viewers back. And now they're going to change how they count views. Now as soon as you click the link, a view appears. Which means everyone's YouTube views are going to start spiking like. crazy. Yeah, I mean, look, YouTube really did, has done significant damage to their own brand just by, you know, by the censorship stuff, by the fact that they definitely put their finger on the scale for some creators or some opinions and stuff. And there's still a lot of people that look at the, the limitations and the censorship surrounding COVID. And they got to, you know, that's what, that was the whole genesis of Rumble in the first place is, is people looked at YouTube. and they knew they couldn't say this, couldn't say that, and Rumble stepped into a place where people were looking for that kind of, of unadulterated commentary, right?

And whether you agree with people on Rumble or a particular creator on Rumble or not, it doesn't matter. People know that if they go to Rumble, they can say whatever they want. And you've got some people that say fairly risque stuff. You know, it's not totally free for all, but, you know, like, I mean, Myron is over on Rumble, if I understand correctly. And he likes to say things to get people worked up. And there's, there's a lot of creators like that on Rumble because it is actually a place where they can

express themselves. Well, what have, what have you guys noticed, at least in like, I don't know, consumer trends broadly in this new paradigm that we're in? Consumer trends, we haven't been monitoring that closely. I will say on the Rumble point, though, that interesting little titbit, we've been monitoring this growth of this term digital sovereignty in non-U.S. countries, Europe, Canada, Australia. And this is the idea that Silicon Valley companies have all gone right wing. We have to build our own tech companies. And I was watching a panel recently, Canadian News Channel, TVO.

It must have been an hour and a half. They were discussing how can Canada build up its own tech sector, build up its own tech companies, its own tech platforms. So we don't have to rely on, you know, Elon Musk and, you know, and these supposedly right-wing tech platforms. And not once in an hour and a half they mentioned Rumble, which is a Canadian company. Yeah.

So, yeah, yeah. They want digital sovereignty, but digital sovereignty has to confirm that the new native, the new local companies have to confirm their ideology. They can't be something like Rumble. Well, it's kind of ironic because, I mean, well, I guess it's not that ironic,

but some people remarked recently that F-Chance effectively dead, that it's just like a total, you know, it's always been pretty seedy, place, but like it's especially dead, like user traffic's down, et cetera. Someone made the point that all that really happened was now that Twitter is kind of a wild west, that most of what you would have seen on 4chan has just ended up on Twitter, like sort of in the anon sphere, right? Where it's like, where do the term anon come from? Well, it came from 4chan when you post it says your name's

anonymous. And that kind of culture, you know, that digital culture has now migrated onto Twitter. We're now that sort of those edgy thoughts or, you know, ideas or whatever that you would have found on 4chan previously, now live on Twitter X almost exclusively, and it's killed 4chan in the process. One of my proudest moments was during Gamergate making many, many threads on 4chan telling them to make Twitter accounts. Yeah. Sort of like a Paul Revere of... I mean, that's the, you even see the green text format on X now, you know, if you're a

person that's gone to 4chan for any. you know any amount of time basically you're familiar with the green text basically it's a story or whatever um and you see that kind of stuff showing up you see copy pastas you see a lot of the a lot of the stuff that was on 4chan um on x and you know it makes sense because one of the things that 4chan used to love to do was go to you know normy sites and either do raids or or try to get people to believe some kind of outlandish story like the other okay sign like that came from 4chan you know so um i mean 4chan so thoroughly you know eviscerated everyone in that sort of culture war that now you see like liberals leftist pundits or politicians

like sort of regurgitating stuff that you would have seen uh aesthetically on 4chan like 10 years ago and now they're like deploying it like you'll see gavin newsom post like a soyjack or something to describe jd vance and it's like sure you're attacking a right winger but like you're using our language so that is like an implicit right wing cultural victory in an interesting way. They say the right wing can't do culture, but look at Pepe the frog. Yeah, yeah, that's our modern Picasso in many ways. No, but thank you for your service.

You indirectly got President Trump elected, and here we are. So thank you very much. Veteran of the meme war, yeah. The first Gamergate book from passage press should be out next year. Oh, really? Oh, nice. I was reading through, I was summoned through Scott Greer's new White Pill book through passage, and it's like a fascinating anthropology where it kind of puts things

a perspective of like, okay, you know, while we can like just sit in this current moment, look around and be like things are pretty bad to see like how hopeless things really were 10 years ago and how thoroughly like the online right has like changed culture for better or for worse is fascinating. So that book's like a really good like cultural anthropology of like how we got here, but like what the mechanics were in the right wing that like led to this current moment. Yeah. The idea that you hear frequently people complaining that the right that the right wing doesn't really have an influence on culture. And that's just verifiably wrong.

Just have to look at basically the internet, right? Like the influence that the right has had, you know, whether it be like you were saying, you know, Gavin Newsom posting soyjacks or, you know, the vice president, you know, actually the memes that come out of the White House, just the fact that the White House. All memes are right wing. This is since the inception of memes. There was a study that came out, and this is, you know what I'm talking about, right, 2014 or whatever. It was like, 4chan is the originator of all memes.

Yes, I saw that. And they got laundered through Reddit and then into the wider social media. Were celebrities posting pepés? Well, it's interesting now, and I guess it was the point I was making earlier, it seems like X is the engine room now of sort of popular memeage. Like if you go on Instagram, that's such a cringe word. Not for long. But if you go on like Instagram reels, you're just seeing stuff that you would have seen on Twitter like two weeks ago and now finally breaking in. And you go to 4chan now and it's like a total ghetto.

They're no longer, like, upstream when you, like, go browse through B or whatever. Like, they're totally in their own world now. And nothing that happened, not nothing, but the majority of discourse happening on there doesn't trickle into the mainstream anymore. Like you would have seen even maybe five years ago. Yeah. I mean, that's likely because, like you said, they really kind of have gone to Twitter because the point of a lot of the stuff that was going on on X was to create influence or to be able to affect the conversation. And now there's no need to do it, you know, kind of in the same kind of subversive fashion. They can actually get on to X.

And maybe they have an anonymous count, but they don't have to just, you know, throw bombs the way that they did on 4chan. They can actually, you know, express their ideas whether or not they get traction that's kind of based on the value of the idea in and of itself. Let's jump to the internet drama that is made. I saved this for later on the show because I don't want to lead a show just off myself. But I did a surrounded Tim Poole versus 20 progressives. And I just want to say right off the bat, I'm accused of rage quitting. Tim Poole, you say BS to get money. Tim Poole storms out of debate with 20 progressives.

It's actually not real. It's a fake headline. I got up and walked 10 feet away, stood next to the camera for 10 seconds, and then walked back and sat back down because the whole thing is fake. But I'll explain everything in greater detail. But let me just say the Jubilee crew was extremely professional. they were very nice. I believe they were very fair. They're getting a lot of heat for calling me a moderate because they just asked like, how do I consider myself? And I said, moderate. And they're like, okay, that was really it. And I think if you watch it, it's patently obvious, I am. One guy actually sat down. He's like, if we agree on all of these things, why are you here? And I was just like, I guess that's a question for production. But this is what they don't understand. They can actually have a guy sit down and be like, we agree on a lot of things. You're also not a moderate. But let's talk about the clip that went massively viral. Mason posted it. He's the guy who I walked away from.

It's got 5.1 million views. Not just that. I believe Hassan Piker reacted to it. It's on the top of a bunch of subredits. The first thing I'm just going to say is the whole thing is a stunt and it's fake. And I'll explain exactly why. But let me show you exactly what happens and why I walked away. So let's just play this clip real quick.

Just the last 20 seconds. Are you coming every fucking year. Do you want a soapbox? Do you want me to get you a soapbox? I can leave. It's really easy. It's really easy to let me do what you do. It's really easy to do what you do.

Like you literally just say, Civil War it's happening next year. Civil War's happening next year. It's coming. Make sure you subscribe to Timcast. Continue to watch my videos, please. Follow us on YouTube. Follow us on Instagram.

It's easy to do what you do. So the first thing I will say in response, well, this is the 12th thing I'm saying, actually. It's vague. So when we're setting this up, they tell me, no one will know they're coming to debate. you. That's not how they normally handle these things. The general idea is that they want it to be a real conversation. And I do think they did a good job and they mean it. However, the dude had a

beanie in his pocket. So that's not true. He knew full well. He was going to pull a stunt. And I'm going to say this. I think my presumption is they tell me like no one's going to know who's debating who. So when you come, it'll be a fresh conversation. There's not going to be any like heavy prep. They'll have a general idea, but they're not even given the exact claims. One person told me that they went to debate certain foreign policy issues and then found out it was Glenn Greenwald. And they're like, oh, but I agree with him on everything. So it was like, I'm not even going to debate him, right? Because they don't know.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone at the company told him like, hey, we want to do a big stunt. It's TV, right? But I don't know that for sure. What I can say is clearly a stunt was planned by someone and someone gave him information as to who was going to be there. Because only there's only one person stupid enough to wear a flannel over shirt, black undershirt, and a black vanguard. Beanie in 96 degree Los Angeles weather. And that's me. So when he was where, when he pulled a bean of his pocket, I was like, you don't have that

on accident. Okay. What I will say is, I didn't inform some of the people there already. Hey, look, I'd seen Ben Shapiro when that trans man flip the chair around, sat there and just be right at him and he sat there and took it. If someone's going to come here and it's, there's no intention of a real conversation, they want to do it. They want to, they just want to clip.

I'm going to get up and walk out, which is going to be great TV. We know that. And so that's exactly what happened. The moment, he started monologuing, and I realized when I'm not having a conversation, he's just clip farming. When he pulled the hat out, I'm like, it's all you, brother. And quite literally after the show, like, tens, you see me walk off camera? He says his thing. I literally walk right back, and then everyone claps.

It's very fake. I think most of these people are actors, in my opinion. They're probably, I think they're actors. I think they like people in L.A., they have political opinions. Some of them are not. In fact, some of them afterwards came up and said, I'm a big fan. I watch you all the time. I disagree with a lot of things.

I'm like, no, yeah, totally cool, totally cool. But I think a lot of them are just, there's like probably a casting company or something, and they're like looking for talent with certain political opinions to discuss certain things. I don't think that's a secret. I think everyone knows that's actually how they do it. So these people coming here are not intending to have a conversation on the merits. They're intending to have a conversation to get as many clips as possible because they know these videos get millions of views. I think this is also what's killing the space.

I think it's also very bad for surrounded for Jubilee. I don't think they do it intentionally. I think Jubilee actually tried to make it more conversational. I don't want to say too much about behind the scenes because it's a lot of their business. But I'll just tell you, there was a point where the director was like, guys, please stop doing this. Like, they would be like, okay, my next claim is this thing. And then the dude comes and sits down and it's later like, F you, Tim Poole, you're ugly and you wear a stupid hat. And they're like, stop.

What are you doing? They didn't literally stop any of that. the debates. They would like people raise the flags. They'd be like, guys, please don't do this. We're trying to stick to the conversation. And so what's happening now is young people, I believe, many of these young people are bringing on. And we'll see. We invited Mason to come on the show and you may see him soon. We'll see what he has to say about a lot of this conversation. I think a lot of these young people are growing up in a world where attention is everything and the facts don't matter. It's post-truth. So in their mind, if you want money, if you want fame, if you

want not a righty, fake it all. Get the clicks. Nothing else matters. For me, well, I care about the issues. I care about the merits and I want to talk about certain ideas. So when they sit down with me and I say, I think thing is happening and they go, you're a grifter. They're doing that because they know liberals click things based on emotional satisfaction and insults. So the conversation does not matter. It's a bit disappointing. I think Jubilee tried really hard to avoid that, but it's what manifests because this is what young people are turning into. And that's why they're progressive. Because if you actually watch the full episode,

you'll see none of them actually really believe anything. Like, I'll just let you guys in on a big secret. One of my claims, and I don't even, you know what? The claims are out of order. And I warned them about this. When we filmed, when we filmed this, it goes like this. My first claim is X. My next claim is X and my last claim is X.

You say, and I mean X as a literal variable. Meaning, I don't just say my first claim is that the Democrats are more violent. My next claim is that the Constitution is, no, no, no. You literally say, my first claim is Democrats are violent. Pause. My next claim is the Democrats are violent. Pause. And my final claim is that Democrats are violent.

Because for editing purposes, they want to make sure. And I actually agree with this to a certain extent. That if someone knows something about me and they bring up a context that doesn't make sense, you, the viewer, are going to be like, I don't understand what he's saying. so they go by the flow of the conversation based on the points made. However, this was, I believe, the last point that was made. And it may be because on the question of the Constitution, no one had anything to say. I'm sitting around all of these people and they're like, okay, if you'd like to debate the Constitution, get ready.

And then nobody wanted to. And they all kind of shrugged because they don't know how to have a high-level, multi-order thinking conversation, which my claim was, and I'm assuming it's in there, I guess, that the Constitution effectively does not exist, which was before claim number three, and I specifically outlined this to them, you cannot introduce a claim that we're tracking towards a civil war without understanding the context of a body politic and what constitutes a body politic. Of course, they chose to arrange it as they thought make the most sense for the viewer. And I understood why they were going to do that. So it is what it is.

We had a conversation about it. And I showed them the four, and I said, these actually go in escalating order for a reason. and like to say, to have a conversation about the propensity towards civil war and not talk about, I'm assuming the Constitution was claimed for, I don't know. When it got to the issue of the Constitution, the reason they may have moved it is because the progressives all completely agree. We have no Constitution. There are two distinct political bodies in the United States.

Each of them views themselves as what constitutes the moral underpinnings of the United States. and both are diametrically opposed to each other. There is no more a unified view of what America is with a disagreement over its politics. There's quite literally a dominant democratic socialists of America arguing there should be no Senate and we should have a parliamentary system instead. That is so far off the deep end. It literally says no to the first article of the Constitution. they are we literally have a dominant political faction in the country saying we reject the

constitution not the bill of rights the initial articles so when they do this is what I say that we don't have a constitution when you've got one side arguing for laws and policies to defy the initial articles as well as the amendments and the bill of rights in the following amendments they all agreed so what do you do what do you do so long story short like the guy the guy right there that in the green shirt, he had no argument whatsoever. He literally got up there and then just started screaming saying, he agreed with me. A civil war is coming and it's your fault, Tim Pool. And then there's a really funny point, which they did include, where something happened where I was like, who's next or whatever. And then I'm like, I guess we are tracking

towards a civil war because these people were all like, it was after this guy said something like, you know, something bad should happen to me. So I don't know if you guys, I'll, you know, if you have any questions or whatever, but the long and the long and short of it is it's W.W.E. Right. Well, I mean, as someone that spends a lot of time with Tim Poole, I can attest to the fact that he's certainly a moderate and it's frustrating. We've had some spats. I mean, over certain policy that he has. I would say he's more liberal. I mean, I think you just have positions that are liberal and some that are conservative. And then on the whole, it does come out moderate. These people are always scandalized because they get up and they think they're going to debate, you know, I think the reality or something because they think you're like super really pragmatic guy. They meet him. They're like, oh, this is like a really pragmatic guy. Well, actually, with all due respect to some of them, there's one guy.

It was funny, Crowder. I was talking to Crowder out this earlier and he was like, how come there were no black liberals? And I said, oh, there was one. It's like, oh, that's right. There was that the one guy with the 14 points of fashion or whatever. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he also said that America was founded on slavery in 1619 or whatever. I'm like, oh boy, here we go.

But interestingly, after the show, he came up to me and he said, he said, hey, I just want to say thank you for coming. Actually, I agree with a lot of what you said. I, you know, to be honest, we were here for another prominent conservative commentator who I'm not going to name, and they were like, we were very unimpressed. He was very stupid. And I was like, well, look, I'm not here to rag on anybody. And he was just like, no, but you made a bunch of points that I actually thought were pretty smart that I hadn't considered. So I appreciate it. And I was like, oh, yeah, right on man. I was like, it was great talking to you. I'd love to do us, sit down with you at some point. And afterwards, we walked out,

and they were like three or four of these young guys, and they were like, oh, that was so awesome. They shook my hand. And I said, you guys are always welcome to come on the show. We'd love to have you. And they were like, cool. There's just the ones that get all the attention, for obvious reasons, are the ones who are pulling stunts,

like putting a bean in his head, which, to be fair, we invited him explicitly because of this to come on. Well, I mean, because Jubilee, like, has demonstrated they can mint, like, commentators, more like streamers, I would say. Like, we could list probably a dozen, sort of personalities that had their big break on Jubilee. So these guys come on there looking for their, their big clip that they can get to go viral on Twitter.

Now, this is what was so frustrating for me with our culture war show was we would invite, you know, a conservative and we would invite a liberal, and then Tim would sort of be the moderating, so to speak. But what ended up happening is the liberal would just ignore the conservative and then just go at Tim on like one point that they had to, one point that they, I guess, thought Tim might be vulnerable on. And then the entire show would just turn into the liberal trying to clip farm off of Tim and him being like, I don't have like a super strong opinion on your very niche topic that you're

like trying to push on me. And it was so frustrating. And it like really like kind of cut through the veneer that I had from like the debate blood sports, which was that both parties like had like a, you know, an ideological disagreement. I was like, no, the conservatives typically like did just simply believe what they like sort of spout. The liberal was quite literally just like an attention whore often, oftentimes. And I'm not even trying to be like intentionally like, you know, inflammatory here.

They were like quite literally just a like a click whore. And they were just trying to clip farm off of 10. I mean, here's the reality. And I will say this was with as much arrogance as I possibly can. These are young guys with very limited experience in politics, in life. And they want to sit down with people with tremendous experience, both in life, business, conflict, crisis, whatever it may be. What do you think is going to happen? I mean, just, just let's simplify it, right?

You know, Phil is a platinum rock star. And imagine a 20-year-old who's been in his, he started a band six months ago, wants to tell Phil how it's done. Like, Phil's literally been there, done that, and then some. And there's a clear gap in the skills and experience he would have versus someone just starting their career. And so what makes this very strange is, I suppose to the, to the fault of politics, young people who think they know things with no reason to actually think. think these things deciding to get up and scream about things they don't know much about. And I think what's going on too is like, you know, if you're playing a game of chess against like a Grandmaster, right, you're going to meticulously plan out your opening.

Like you do not want to get into just a tip-for-tat battle with the Grandmaster. You want to have an opening, a game plan, you know, you make this move, he makes this move, and then you work your way down the game. So when these people come on to debate guys that are just conservatives, they have this, like, opening in their head. And it's like, okay, when he says this and I can hit him with this. and then take his piece here. But when they debate Tim, like what ends up happening is Tim doesn't make that move

because he's not just like, you know, died in the wool conservative. He's not like, you know, just a Fox News talking head. And they get thrown off. So then what you typically see in these debates is they're still making these points that Tim is not making. They're not actively debating. They're running a pre-programmed. It's a chess opening that Tim's not, he's not making the same movies.

Let me tell you the craziest thing I think out of the whole debate was when I think it was, it might have been the dude in green, I'm not sure, said, it might have been him. I said something like, there were people who voted for Donald Trump hoping that migrants would be shot and killed. And he goes, no, there weren't. And I was like, what? There absolutely were people that were hoping that ICE would go out and shoot illegal immigrants.

And he was like, you actually think that. And I was like, yes, I think there are white supremacists and racist and ultra-nationalists who don't like migrants. He's like, thank you for saying that white supremacist voted for Trump. And I'm like, yes, some do. Like, it is insane to me that. because their whole position has to be, Tim Poole is a conservative and he's wrong about everything,

that when I literally say something like there are white supremacists in this country and they did want migrants to be shot, they have to tell me I'm wrong, despite the fact that it was their position from the get-go. It's the bugs bunneying. And so I do these things on purpose. That if you agree, like it's,

so the point I'm making is when bugs bunny, if those I don't know the reference, I think everybody does, Elmer Fudd's in the middle, and Daffy's going. it's rabbit season and then Bugs goes, it's duck season. And they're going back and forth and Elmer Fudd doesn't know how to shoot. Then Bugs Bunny eventually changes it up and goes, it's rabbit season. And then Daffy goes, nice try Bugs. It's duck season. And then Bugs goes, I guess you're

right. And then Fudge shoots Daffy. That's the point. Often, I intentionally will introduce a position where I know I'm going to agree with someone as a trap to see if they're actually having a conversation or if it's a performance. So when I say to someone, white supremacist surreal and many of them wanted migrants shot, guy instantly says, no, they aren't, no they didn't, you're wrong. And I'm like, okay, this is not a real conversation. And then I said, wow, I don't really, you know, super right wing, I guess. It's literally dogs catching the car compilation. That's like what you're watching. Yeah, exactly. They have no idea what to do. They literally, and they laughed. Like, everybody in the crowd's laughing because they don't know how to react to the guy

they're told is right wing saying something that they should agree with. But they can't. Yeah, I mean, look, that's true, but I also think there's a certain amount of, you know, the left doesn't understand the right, whereas the right does understand the left. And when I say right, I'm speaking broadly, people that are not ideologically possessed by whatever the left is kind of pushing now. And it's consistently the norm. You hear people on the right, they're able to articulate. what the left thinks. They are able to articulate the left's arguments. They say, you know, they're misguided. They, you know, they're silly or whatever. But, you know, they just have a different worldview. Whereas the left are just like, well, he's Hitler. You know, everyone on the

rights Hitler. They're all, they're all white supremacists. They're all white nationalists. They're all racist. They're all. And it's just all this, this constant deluge of it's a moral failing to be on the right. And the morality is from their perspective. And so you don't actually, you can't have a debate with someone like that because they're not going to listen to what you say. Well, it's, again, it's WWE. Does, like, I did not go into this. I'll tell you exactly why I agreed to do Jubilee. Because I had said before that I wasn't interested in doing these surroundings.

I did another one with them. So that's a debate, another debate coming out with, it's a face off. And then we did a podcast. They may have already put out, I'm not sure. But I did this for one reason to quite literally create clips where I'm saying something. fairly moderate to liberal and having a progressive argument that it's wrong. So quite literally, I go in there with the intention to say something that the left will lie about me to other people about creating a clip that will be almost surreal, like me saying white supremacist voted for Trump

and they were hoping that migrants would get shot because I do believe that's true. I just don't believe it's the majority. I think the last number that was tracked was like 11,000 clansmen exist in the United States. I certainly think many of these people are racist, don't like brown people, but I don't think it's all of Trump supporters. I think it's a tiny minority people who had supported Trump in the past with the obvious examples that prominent white nationalists did vote for Trump later, did not. But it creates a situation where I know these people are going to argue the inverse. What am I going to do with that? So I'm going to put out of this. I was talking a crowder about it. There's a bunch of companies that I work with apolitical, right,

especially the sponsors for this show and sponsors we do on other shows. And they'll say things like, you know, our concern is like, here's what someone said about you. But I never go on to corporate or liberal media and say what I normally say, right? Like on IRL, everyone knows that I'm fairly moderate. As Tate's mentioning, like being here, it's like, I'll have some liberal positions. But the liberals will never share those. The news will never share those. So the sponsors aren't going to see them. So I'll go on a Jubilee and then I'll argue from a moderate liberal perspective on most of their things. And that will create a sort of dissonance in their media ecosystem. So now I can take the clips of these people acting like lunatics and me saying things that are actually kind of liberal and then say, oh, it's just fake news.

Yeah, me and Tim could argue for an hour on abortion. I'll argue with everybody on abortion. Yeah, I mean, like Tim has a litany of positions that are liberal, but of course that's not what's going to be broadcast, especially if people like this have already siloed you in their head. Like they have already identified, you must be some sort of right winger and it's like their boogeyman that it can neatly fit you into. I'll tell you a funny story. Actually, maybe we can do a bit on this one. Let me, let's do a bit. Let's get personal with it.

Let me figure. I got to figure out where I posted this. Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, okay. I got it right here. I'm going to pull up this thing that I probably shouldn't, but I'm going to pull it up anyway if I can. You know what? I might have to download it.

Let's see. Okay, we're going to download this thing real quick, and I'm going to load it up, and we're going to play a game. We're going to play a game called, uh, don't say these things, you will lose everything. So let's do that. Okay, where did I just save this thing to?

There it is. All right, let's load it in. You know what? Did you guys know that I play poker? What? You may have heard that. So I got two stories for you, and we'll start with this one. Mike Holtz, you've learned his name for the first time.

He's a poker pro, and he posted on poker news. So here I am playing the MGM Potomac Summer Open is a $3,000 tournament. I ended up mincashing. I did pretty well. I profited. It's a long story. We'll get it to a second. But I played this at MGM in National Harbor in D.C.

And this guy crushed me. I got lucky. Then he got lucky. And it is what it is. Poker News is one of the preeminent news organizations covering poker. Gee, who to thought. This guy is the host of their podcast. He posted in response to the,

them just covering the news. They didn't say they liked me. They just said, Tim Poole's here. He busted out. Why are we giving this human-ish stain any airtime? He betrayed America. We should beat him publicly. Oh, on the list of things you should never say on your employer's Instagram page, or for legal reasons, things you should never say, I take this threat very seriously, as does my security team, and this set off a whole bunch of sirens. Because when someone Someone says, I mean, there's a lot of things you can say where we get pissed off, but there's very little to be done, such as he should be beaten. It's not an imminent threat. He posted, we should beat him publicly.

Okay, now we got a problem. We got a big problem. This guy does the poker news podcast, is my understanding. And poker news has present a lot of these events. So naturally, my security team is like, this is a credible threat where, and, and, you know, And I don't know if he's an employer what his deal is, but he's a representative of poker news. On the poker news page saying we should beat him, now we have concerns about potential threats from employees of poker news who were very nice to me and who I like, aside from this guy. This is what it's like out there in the wild with these lunatics.

This is the kind of things that we have to deal with. So that's why I bring it up because we're taking this very seriously. And we're going to be sending out, to the extent that we'll be filing police reports and going after this, we have to. because if this guy makes any appearances and any of these events I'm playing in tournaments at, we're going to have an issue now because he's made a direct threat to other employees of poker news

that they should be physically attacking me. So we're going to take that very seriously and reports are currently like we're currently preparing the process for all those things. So we'll see. I do believe he may have deleted it already, but look at it got 30 likes.

This is what we have to deal with when I simply go to a casino to play a poker tournament. But I'll tell you a story and why this comes up. because we're just talking about the Jubilee show and these libs trying to these progressives trying to debate but they're not really trying to debate

so the first table I sit at on day 1B of the tournament there's a guy at the table who for no reason I guess asks me about he says something like so you're not a you don't you don't believe in climate change or something he asks me that and he said something like I had to look up and I was like, I just interviewed a guy from Noah who said he thought that man-man

climate change was real, but there's corrupt people pushing an agenda behind the scenes. They're like, oh, this is the point. These people, these liberals, believe what they do because they live in the matrix. They don't know what's true. They just live in a world of lies pushed by other liberal commentators and the corporate press. It is fabricated. It is made up. and they go crazy and they post criminal things.

So here I'm at a table. So later, they eventually move you because that's what happens in multi-table tournaments. And a dealer come up to me and he was like, I want to apologize. I didn't know if I should have intervened because of the things I was saying to you. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Like this guy was just trying to debate me at the poker table. And I just, you know, sorry, but I smoked him. He said, when I mentioned, I was like, oh, no, I think, you know, humans are affecting climate.

There's a lot of pollution. He's like, oh, well, what do you think about legendary hero, Anthony Fauci? And then I laughed. Then I was like, I don't. Some people think that I guess, you know, some don't. And he's like, well, he said something like, they would be wrong. And then I said, or I just think they're mad that Fauci in January knew that it likely came from a lab. But instead publicly stated that there was no evidence of that.

And then a year later, despite having red flags, the vaccine may be causing miscarriages, publicly stated that they weren't. And then several women had miscarriages. So there's reasons why people are upset with him. This would you do with in the wild, though. So ultimately, I'll put it like this. I wanted to highlight this for two reasons, and then we'll kick it to a broader conversation on the issue. You can't do this.

I'm going to make that clear right now. You as a representative working for poker news responding to the official corporate page of poker news saying, we should beat him publicly. Now my security takes that as a threat from all staff at poker news.com. okay so now we're going to be putting in reports with all the casinos that I play at when I go to these tournaments this guy works for this company and he threatened physical violence against our client and we're going to have to deal with that and it's really annoying but you know what we're going to you know why this should not be tolerated will not be tolerated no one should accept this this degree of psychotic behavior we are at right now in this country where people post things

like this okay this is insane So here we are. And, you know, the tournament was a lot of fun. That guy wasn't there. But now we have to take considerations because I don't know where he will be. And I don't know which other staff at poker news agreed with him and smashed to that like button. And I think we're going to have to try and figure that out. That's the thing that kind of is most concerning is there's so many people that just like it, like 30 people, decided, oh, this was actually a good thing to say.

particularly when, you know, he works for the, you know, poker news or whatever, it's like you were playing a tournament that they're covering. Like, why on earth would you think that this is acceptable? But, you know, people just spout off. And especially with, you know, BS stuff, he betrayed America. What even is that? Well, right. I mean, obviously, but, you know, to go back to the Jubilee thing, there are people who don't care for. for what's true. They live in an emotional reality and they want, they just want to hurt people,

I guess. That's the craziest thing, right? There's a lot of people in the world I don't like. I don't really think much about hurting them at all. You know, like I've never thought about causing any kind of physical harm to any liberal personality. What's with liberals where they just want to beat people? Yeah, who would smash the like button on that? That's really weird. There was this social psychology study that I was, I believe, heard a couple of months ago by I've got up here by Arcto Theorem about how much conservatives and liberals hate each other, and how much conservatives and liberals think the other side hates each other. Obviously, you're not a conservative, Tim, but they think you are.

And what the study found was that liberals think conservatives hate them much more than they actually do. And conservatives underestimate the level of the liberals hate them. Well, the other study was that, similarly, that when asked, conservatives could accurate predict the political opinions of liberals, but liberals could not predict the opinions of conservatives. Yep. Yeah, you can't model there. You can't model the mind of someone you think is, you know, so evil that they're an alien, alien person. Well, you know what I think it is. I think it's that liberals are mentally ill, largely. That's not an opinion. This is a fact. They don't have theory of mine. They can't model someone else. There's a direct correlation. This is a fact,

is scientific fact, that liberals have higher rights of mental illness. And so I think it's not that liberals are mentally ill, but that the mentally ill are attracted to the ideals of liberalism because, you know, to be honest, I think this wasn't always the case with liberals in this country, but I believe that those who seek power very joker-esque, they seek out the mentally ill to weaponize because they know they don't have the critical thinking capacity to resist the manipulation techniques. And thus, they're perfect cannon fodder for a joker type of personality, which I think all of these liberal personalities really are. I mean, guys, have you ever seen Kyle Kalinsky. He's a clown. He's the Joker, bro. He lost his mind. He used to have brown hair,

and he was super chill and calm. And he once defended Carl Benjamin. And I was like, this is a good dude. You know, he was, I can't remember where he was talking to, but he was like, stop. Like, Carl's not a fascist. I know me. I don't agree with him on things. But, and I'm like, he's normal. And then he like bleached his hair. And now he just screams and he's just super angry all the time. And I'm like, bro, jokered out. I don't, I don't get it. They're like, the mom. go up or something? The thing that, one of the things that I, that really just shocked me that, that he did is how he was on, he and both him and Crystal Ball were both on Joe Rogan's podcast.

And Joe gave him a big up and was always very cordial and nice, obviously. And then they just, they got to the point where they have been just dogging Joe Rogan, every chance they get just, not just, you know, saying, look, this, this isn't right or this, you know, debunking things that Rogan says. but just straight up, like, insulting him and ad homina attacks just because, again, because he says things that they disagree with. This guy was nice to you. He brought you on his show. Like it was, and he, at the time, even now, Rogan's probably still one of the biggest podcasts if he's not the biggest. But, like, they were essentially nobody.

And he brings him on and treats them well. And they're just stabbing him in the back. And it's not, I said shocked, but it shouldn't be really all that shocking from the left. But it's just, it speaks to the moral character. and I won't even get into the morality of those two as a couple. So I'll leave that at that. But... Some liberals have approved.

They haven't all gone joker mode. I actually... Taylor Lorenz used to be one of my least favorite technology journalists, which she's been really great on the age verification issue. Really? And how it feeds into digital ID. And Meredith Whitaker, president of Signal, actually wrote some negative articles about Red Breitbart.

also great on that same issue. So there's actually a good, I'm seeing like a good sort of bipartisan convergence on that particular issue on online privacy and digital ID. So, you know, not all liberals have gone crazy. That's something that's very a big deal in the UK right now, right?

Because of the bills are trying to pass where you have to have an ID to be on the internet, essentially. Online Safety Act, yes. And, you know, it is, this is something we've written a lot about out of the Foundation Freedom Online. It is actually quite possible to do age verification.

without compromising anonymity or privacy. But strangely, none of the laws that have been passed either in the UK or in US states have mandated those technical standards, which are actually quite simple to implement. And I think one of the reasons for that is because a lot of the groups that have pushed for this in the interests of protecting children, that's sort of a pretext. They actually want to de-anonomize people. They want to undermine free speech. And protecting children is a great sort of Trojan horse.

and take to the public because it convinces the public. The machillon argument is consistently used, like in all, like, in so many different areas, whether it be, it's something that like pro 2A people hear all the time, oh, well, you know, you don't want to, you don't want to outlaw these certain types of guns that I'm afraid of because you're a bad person and why don't you think of the children or whether, whatever your opinion on, on Israel and Gaza, one of the things that people bring up is how many children have been been killed in Gaza, you know, allegedly or whatever. And the argument of, oh, my children, I've got a very, very thick skin now when people are saying, oh, well, the children,

you know, the children have to be protected from this. And the children, it's like, I really think that that's just a pretext for you to get what you want it because you believe that it's going to, you know, the emotional argument of it, it's going to people are just saying, oh, well, yeah, you know, we got to be careful with that. So. Yeah. And you again, you can, you can do age ID without compromising anonymity. It's quite simple. You just pass a law saying you can go to a post office or a library, show them your ID, and they give you a token that proves you're over 18 without any connection to your real face name or anything like that.

None of the laws have requested, have, you know, demanded, implemented anything like that yet. Yeah, because that was always the argument they made. There's like, well, you'll show your ID to get a beer. And it's like, well, they're not like logging my ID into an online registry that's shared with the government. They're just glancing at it, maybe scanning it, and then, moving on. Yeah. What are some, is that the only, the only particular method that you're, you're aware of is like going to get some kind of token or something? There are, there are multiple

ways. I mean, if you only like do deep research and just Google zero knowledge proof. And there are all sorts of other ways you can separate the verification stage from what you actually give to a website. So it's not revealing any personal identity. It's actually, it's not a complicated technical problem. But for whatever reason, none of the bills that have demanded age verification have mandated which is strange considering there are independent laws that are designed to protect privacy. I think it's partly a problem of legislatures not understanding the technical nuances of the issue. And I think the other issue is all of these groups that are pushed for the bills. We did one on Britain recently at FFO.

I'm just super opposed to anonymous speech in general. Yeah. That doesn't surprise me. I mean, the anonymous, you know, you have, the anonymous kind of poster was actually so instrumental in a lot of, you know, really impactful things that happened. I mean, Donald Trump wouldn't have been elected if it wasn't for like people that were anonymous posters making memes. We were just earlier today talking about earlier tonight talking about 4chan and how they were, they've been very influential with whether they, you know, whether you call them the gay ops or whatever, like the things that 4chan. has done and brought to light, a lot of that stuff wouldn't have been possible if you didn't have a forum where there people were anonymous.

Let's jump to this story. Dean Withers, he is actually one of these young guys. I think he's appeared on Jubilee or like quite a bit, right? Yeah. Young liberal guy accused of rape. And it's crazy because a bunch of these young liberal guys keep getting accused of rape, sexual assault and harassment. I got to be honest.

Guys, I know that there's a lot of people who live. lie. But I got to say to these liberals, you know, if it walks like a duck, wax like a duck. Here's a clip. Apparently, Dean Withers is getting very angry because he's now being accused. I think of like, I don't know the story. I heard rumors that he was harassing guys. It was multiple, yeah.

It was underage, underage males as well as abusing females. But here's his response. Proven wrong. I do agree with you, but I'm just saying it hasn't been proven wrong. I absolutely. Okay, okay, okay. To me, it hasn't been proven wrong. I proved it wrong by showing that the DMs were fake.

Fuck you. And listen, listen. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, did I show, did I show, did I show, shut up? Did I show that the DMs were fake? We need a little anxiety, Penn, all right? Answer the question. Yes, I am, I am getting loud.

I am getting upset. You are, you are, you are accusing a victim of domestic violence of raping somebody after I've proven that they're completely fake. huh? I, right? You're a victim because you're on the receiving end. Yeah, keep running from the truth. Whoa!

Listen, we get to be a joke right now. Just why would you do that? Why would you say that shit, bro? Listen, just listen, listen, listen. Just, just to leave your anxiety pen and we can be trumped. Why would you say that? Is he crying? I think so.

It looks like, yeah. Trying their best, guys. I think I actually... They're trying their best, bro. They're really fucking... It actually sounds like he did it. They really trying their best. I know.

These people all deserve. other. Fuck. Look, look, I'll put it like this. If he didn't do it, he deserves everything that's happening to him. God, man. Yeah, I wonder what his take was during the Kavanaugh hearing. Yeah, right.

I don't know if he was lucid. He was probably too young. Yeah. Wow, dude, epic crash out. So we got this report, prime timer. Who is Dean Withers and what are the allegations against him? Influencer becomes emotional on stream when addressing concerning and accusations. You can just put rape. It's fine. He faces unsubstantiated, we call that a subjective

qualifying adjective. He faces sexual assault allegations from several men. While the young political commentators publicly denied the claims and called the accusations fake, Newsweek says, Dean Withers reveals death threats amid false rape allegation. No, no, no, no, no. Liberals do not get to live in the world where the victims are the accusers always and the accused get due process. Live by the sword. Dean Withers hear these words. I extend rights to those who extend rights to others. And this is what I've said for a long time.

I used to be live and let live. I don't agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death of your right to say it. And then I realized that they were exploiting this, these progressives, to beat me over the head. And at a certain point, I said, I'm going to stop it letting you do that. That's just it. You see, the issue isn't about a universal principle of free speech. It's that I say to everybody who I believe wants something better, I will let you express your values and ideas so that we can have something better because I could be wrong.

And you know what? You need to be able to express yourself lest you get pent up and it causes all sorts of instability. And so then they said, I'm a lot of say whatever I want. I said, yes. Then they started doing Tweedledee, Tweedledum death threats and getting away with it. Are you familiar with the Tweedled D, Tweedledum death threat? No. Let me explain. In order for a threat to be a legitimate and illegal action, you need to create an imminent threat by instructing somebody or explicitly stating, we are going to do this.

Such as if he said, we should beat him publicly. You are creating a threat, right? However, Tweedled D, Tweedledum would be one person standing. up and saying, all Nazis should be beaten on site. That's an opinion that creates no minute threat. Tweedledum then points at you and says, Nazi, neither of them have made a statement that is an imminent threat, but together as independent statements, they have instructed people to start beating you. So I said, okay, no more free speech for the people who are using this to destroy free speech itself. Dean Withers, same deal. Y'all, and I, on the left and the progressive say,

victims are always right. You have been credibly accused and you don't get to cry like a little bitch because you are reaping what you sow. That's it. I extend to you the courtesy you have asked for. It's called the golden rule. You shall be treated as you have requested to be treated.

So you've been accused credibly of rape. Cry about it. I mean, look, the, seconding? Seconded? No, I, yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, look. You're preaching to the choir.

Yeah, I mean, I don't, I'm not familiar with the, with the, you know, the, or the issue here that he's talking about. But, look, he's definitely not the dude that's going to go and say, oh, well, you know, we should, we should let all the facts come out and we should wait until, you know, we get more information, blah, blah, blah, particularly if it's a political, opponent or someone that's politically disinlined with him. So yeah, like, I mean, let them reap what they sow. I don't have any problem with that.

It's the classic, what's the bit, you know, me voting for the cougars eat my face off party. Oh my gosh, I can't believe the cougars eating my face off. It's like, that's literally, dude, you like encourage this culture. So even if let's just, let's pretend these, let's steal man. Let's let's pretend these are all completely unfounded. I mean, it's the most obvious point in the world. It's like, bro, this is like your thing. Yeah.

You created this gallum that's now attacking you. It's like, dude, well. And he's 21 years old. Yeah. And like, if these allegations have any merit, he's going to have a lot of issues. This happens all the time in like weird kind of like online left circles. Like this has been happening for a long time with these like Minecraft streamers and this sort of thing where they're always like taking turns getting canceled. and then they'll take turns dogpiling on each other

and make a comeback two years later get canceled again and like the Dean Weather's sort of sphere of leftist streamers there's like an outgrowth of that culture and it's all just like broadly like sexually deviant people trying to justify their deviancy taking turns canceling each other for whenever they like there's some sort of invisible line of deviancy you can't cross

and then none of them know where that is so they're all just like taking turns like sweeping the minds and then getting canceled and it's been going on for years now. You almost feel bad for them, but they're the ones participating in it. So it's like, dude, so be it. Yeah, I mean, like the, the idea, yeah, the idea that, that anyone is going to be above, above being these kind of accusations and, and thinking, oh, well, you know, I'm the good guy, and I've been, I've been on the right side of everything. So, you know, this will never, never happen to me. It's like, man, these kind of things happen to people all the time. And if you're not, I mean,

in modern society, like, if you're accused of this kind of stuff, you're kind of doomed anyways. You know, there's not a lot of, you know, there's not a lot of grace given to people that are accused of these kind of things because, you know, they're terrible crimes. If it turns out to be true. I don't know, like I said, I don't know much about his particular story. I don't know what he's accused of. But yeah, like when when the mob comes for you, like look out, man. Yeah. There's not a lot of people that are going to be sitting there.

No, no, you shouldn't. You know, that was one of the things that Me Too kind of taught everybody. It's like when the mob says, I think that the only people that are the only person that I can think of that kind of managed to survive it is Kavanaugh. And that was because it was so ridiculous. Yeah. Well, and that was just because, I mean, in all fairness, guys like, you know, the late Lindsey Graham were actually going to the mat for him. And it's like he had the benefit of it didn't matter if like he won the court of public opinion. He just had an institutional threshold to get across.

So once he was in, he was in. Yeah, it just needed a certain number of senators. Plus, they'd already done it before to Clarence Thomas. Right. That'd already run the playbook. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So like it didn't even really matter what the public thought. It was like, can you whip these senators in the shape or not?

And thankfully, the majority of them, all the ones we needed, like saw through it. And to your point, I mean, they had seen that before with Clarence Thomas, which was, even more ridiculous. And to be honest, you mentioned the public, you know, what the public thinks, there's still people that are,

you know, obviously they're largely on the left, but still swear up and down that Christine Blasey Ford was telling the truth and how can we have Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court considering what he did? There's people that actually still make accusations and comments about,

you know, Clarence Thomas. And this is, that's 35 years ago or whatever when he, when he was going through his stuff. I'm going to dig into this. I'm going to dig into this, Dean with this stuff. I'm trying to right now.

You know what I think? I think I'm going to hear all sorts of weird and crazy things. And so long as it's being reported by individuals claiming those things, I can say him. Yeah. Yeah, I heard something crazy about him just the other day. I heard that he was invited on this show, agreed, and that the last minute backed out, said he needed to reschedule and they never did. Yeah, I heard that too. Maybe it was because he was busy raping someone.

I don't know. Yeah, yeah. That occupies a lot of time. We were trying to get it. Well, live by the sword, man. There are multiple accounts, so a lot of times spent it. Are you reading? Are you reading about it?

I'm trying to. Yeah, it's saying everything is like false. But there's- Who's saying it's false? Well, AI, of course. Ah, no, we're not asking AI. Which AI? I'm trying to search for these alleged screenshots.

I think they're saying like a TikTok profile named Emily used AI-generated or stolen images to post-fabricated direct messages, claiming misconduct. There's a couple of male victims, one female, victim. Why would they fake it? I don't know. Why would they fake it? That makes no, it's like the weirdest thing to be like, we're going to accuse a lesser known, lesser known, lesser known 20 year old liberal, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's not really, this video I've ever made. A Trump supporter stole the identity of an innocent 13 year old girl to falsely accuse me of rape was supporting evidence of poorly botched fake deems in an attempt to illegitimately de-platform me. In response,

Once the 13-year-old whose identity was stolen made a video calling out the false accuser and anybody peddling these lies using her photos. Stating that she's been getting harassed and bombarded with messages. An innocent 13-year-old girl. As we speak, not all, but millions of Republicans across the internet have continued to knowingly peddle this false allegation and could what only be described as an attempt to get me killed or to get me to myself, leading to the police calling me informing me of a bomb threat and the continued visceral harassment of the innocent little girl who had

he's saying Trump supporters did this to him yeah he's he's it's kind of wild you know what I mean like it's listen if you're accused of rape and your whole audience is coming at you now because it's a listen liberals believe all women if a woman accuses a guy of rape liberals are like we're going to believe them and sorry your person on grata the only move the dude has to make is actually to all liberals who are now mad at me it was Trump who did it. That's the only card he has to play. And I got to admit, it's really weird, in my opinion, to be like, actually, it was a Trump supporter. That means it's fake. Her identity stolen. Let's unpack this. First and foremost, this TikTok account, under the name of Emily, accused me of rape.

They posted this fake diam to prove their allegation. The account posted two screenshots of the same faked DMs, for the purpose being that in the second screenshot, they're scrolled further down the page to also include my response. We know that they're fake because in the first screenshot above their message, there is an included date and time. In the second screenshot above that same message, there is not an included date and time. The only... So why does that mean it's fake? Honest question. Why does that mean it's fake? Do we know? I mean, maybe it is. I don't know. The explanation for this inconsistency is that the screenshots are fake. The account... It's not. There was...

There was one post about a Twitter DM conversation. Someone claimed it was fake because it had like a follow button or whatever, like he just showed. And then I checked mine and I'm like, it looks the same. So I don't know. But also claimed to be a young girl posting many photos such as these to make their allegations seem more believable. This girl is not accusing me of rape. She had her identity stolen by this account. She made a video to clear this up.

So tonight, I was looking through my TikTok comments and I find some comments saying that someone's impersonating me and using my photos to accuse someone deem with this of sexual assault. This was the picture someone put in my TikTok comments, and this was the picture I posted on Instagram. Same with here. This was posted in July, and now I find this four days ago on TikTok. On this photo, you can see there's a little scribble at the top of the screen. This is because, as you can see...

Shenanigans. I'm calling shenanigans. You can AI generate a photo of a woman. No one needs to rip a picture of some girl. This, this seems... It seems like a too detailed explanation of exactly what happened to make it fake his story is like what too much? What if this girl actually did it because

it got her attention? I'm just going to say this. Any guy who was trying to smear Dean Withers, I don't know who they would because what MAGA guy who's in his 40s would do this, but you can go on any AI and make an image of a girl doing a selfie that looks good enough. And then what you do is you take a picture

of it with your phone on the screen so it degrades it a little bit. Or you screenshot it and run it through. Like you just you put it up online. You degrade it, you drop the resolution, whatever. You can make it look grainy and real. Why steal a photo from some other girls' TikTok? Additionally, how are they screenshoting?

I'm going to say this. Let's go back. So you can see how she posts this. Honestly, you guys correct me if I'm wrong. Can you actually get the raw image from a TikTok? I have no idea. Because you notice that if you're going to screenshot it, it's going to have the search bar and it's going to have the icons on the side.

So that's why I'm like, how is, how did they do that? Where's the, uh, how did they get the raw? Where's that stupid post? I mean, I don't think you can like pull up TikTok and Chrome and just get the video. I'm not sure the, don't. Then they said that she posted this photo. The photo looks almost the exact same. I'm wondering how the person got the raw of these images.

I mean, maybe. Maybe it's fake. I don't know. I just, you know, some programs you can use to download YouTube videos. Maybe there's some to download Twitter videos or Instagram images. Doesn't it seem weird, though, that you could just AI generate a picture of a woman? To, like, go to a random girl's TikTok and take her posts? Yeah. Why wouldn't you AI generate the post?

Like, take a... Why wouldn't you AI generate 10 pictures of a girl? Her face is blurred anyway. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I still don't quite follow where she comes. into the whole... The argument is that someone ripped her photos,

made a fake profile, and said this is me, and Dean Withers made a regular way. And if she was posting it on her story, then that would mean that the person that did it follows her. So then she would be able to probably deduct who it was quite quickly. Another real, or another potential explanation is

she indeed accused them, felt bad about it or got some heat, and then walked back and her explanation was, oh, I got to be honest, I think that sounds more likely. I agree. Yeah. Because also, So isn't like the account he's claiming is not real? It has a thousand followers, doesn't it? It would be one thing if it was pictures.

She had a public Instagram and those photos from like her Instagram photos, but stories, those are up for 24 hours. So someone that follows her and a snap judgment decided to like compile photos from her story. That makes no sense. Hold on. Is he saying, hold on, I'm a visceral harassment of the innocent little girl who had her identity stolen. Let's unpack this. First and foremost, this TikTok account under the name of,

of Emily accused me of rape. Okay, hold on. This account has a thousand followers, 2,300 million likes, and it has several videos with near 100,000 views. So this is a weird story that I'm just saying,

this doesn't add up. If somebody was going to make a fake profile to steal some girl's videos and then accuse him of rape, wouldn't it be like a new profile? Is he saying that someone set up the long game, ripped this girl's identity, made an account,

used it for a long time, got a bunch of views, then when the time was right, falsely accused him? She would be able to figure it out right away because if it's from her story and it was screenshoted on Instagram, it tells you who screenshotsed your story. What about TikTok?

I can't, well, no, but so when she was showing, like, here's the photos they stole, it was photos from her story. So she would be able to go in her archive, look at it. I doubt there was more than one person screenshoting her story. She's no one.

She would be able to figure it out right away. So if she knew who it was, she'd be able to expose them right away. Who's viewing your story? But again, not just that, but it tells you who screenshots. Is Dean Withers the victim of this conspiracy where someone created a TikTok account a year ago, built up a small number of followers and likes, got a couple of videos over 100,000? And then once the profile looked real, like this does not make sense.

Or our previous theory, which was like, again, two possibilities. One, she felt bad or got some heat, walked it back. Or he reached out to her privately and said, let's make this go away. No, no, I'm wrong. I'm wrong. These posts are about Dean. which means the account could have been brand new and it only got this. I don't doubt that. I think where this all gets really

unrealistic is, again, she would be able to figure out right away who screenshots her story to get those photos. So that means that she produced the photos to someone or did the account herself. And then the question is why did she walk it back? Yeah, okay, okay. I was totally wrong. I was totally wrong.

The account's brand new. It only has videos accusing Dean. Nothing else. Yeah, that's the part that... I think that passes the sniff test. Yeah, the question is okay, does she have a stalker? If that's the case, she has a whole other problem on her hands. Or what's more likely, again, she would be able to figure out who did it or she did it herself. Either way, she's like withholding some information.

Yeah, I didn't know that you could screenshot and see who screenshotted the thing. If you upload a story right now and then go on a different account, screenshot it, it'll tell you who screenshots it. Really? Yeah. So, I mean, I don't know how they would get the raw photo either. No, but I think, Alam's right. There's a lot of services for downloading videos. You know.

So I just think it's very weird that somebody would falsely accuse random, you know, middling commentator, Dean Withers. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean. And why he's saying it's a Trump supporter, like, you can't prove that. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's just him trying to capitalize on it, right? Like, he's assuming that it's Trump supporter or he's saying it's Trump supporter so that way he can, you know,

mobilize the people that enjoy his content and he can actually make this into something that that benefits him. The aesthetics of that TikTok account, I don't think a single Republican of Planet Earth could possibly replicate it. That's a hundred percent of a left-wing person that... You know what I think it is? Like, I'd be more willing to bet that it's like a young girl that had a fling with him that he like one night stand it or whatever. Yeah, she's wanted detention. Now she's walking it back or got like threatened. Or yeah, he actually, raped her and then she made a profile on TikTok

said this is what he did to me and then when she started getting serious threats because he's got a lot of followers she was like no it's not real I swear maybe bizarre yeah what a weird world we're going to go to your rumble rants and super chat so smash that like button share the show with everyone in your life including mom

demo says when you introduced when you introduced yourself in jubilee video I seriously thought you were going to say I'm Tim Poole and I'm surrounded by 20 retards I should have been good Cheeseburger says green shirt David Jufro making all those faces for Jubilee clip farming is a homosexual, mentally challenged bundle of sticks. Crowder was very funny.

Crowder was very funny. He was like, you're nice. And then he went on to list all of the names he would have called the people. I'm not going to say because he's correct. I am nice, you know, these people. General 45 cases, guys, the victory condition in Iran is how much we can weaken China and other BRICS nations. Did you hear the alliance? having major energy issues. Indeed. Trump's argument of like, oh, we're going to have peace just does

not make sense. What makes sense is that we're cutting off bricks, largely China. Mitch, Mitch has, says, Alex was always the FBI plant. They gave him the truth to spew, so the truth would be discredited before it finally comes out. Now he's served his purpose and they no longer give him stories. I don't believe that for a second. Yeah. I mean, the problem is that everyone believed he was correct and he was correct. So the FBI just like blew up their whole operation for no reason. No. Let's see. Fun Griff says two questions. How do today's viewership numbers compare to pre-COVID? Pre-COVID views are way higher. You know, in 2018 and 19, it was nuts. In 2018, I was getting between 300,000 and 500,000 views on every video. It was insane. In 2019, I was doing like 120,000

views, I'm sorry, 120 million views per month. Just totally bonkers. Could it be the numbers have been inflated for a long time to make people think others were engaged. We're just finding out. I don't know. All I can say is look at everyone's numbers and views are down. The weird thing is my morning show views aren't. So don't look at me. I don't know. Maybe we were the only real show. Actually, I'll say this Crowder's views aren't down either. So like our IRL, views are lower than they were where they were a year ago. But for the cycle, they're fairly normal. I think like we peaked today in concurrent viewership around, I think we're going to end up with somewhere like 27, 28,000, which for off cycle politics is exactly where we were four years

ago. So I'm kind of like, you know, whatever, we sell our ads, we do our thing. And then when the election starts, we're going to get a big bump in views. And the primary is going to get a big bump in views. And then the presidential election is like the Olympics for us. Crowder's views are still way up. He's doing really, really well. But everyone's views are down. With all due respect to Joe Rogan, he's got a couple of bangers, but go look, he's got like one episode with like 300K, 400K. Joe used to crank out like a million per episode clean every episode. So I think, you know, I say this with respect. When Joe's views are down on YouTube, it's everybody.

It's everybody. J-Dav says, back to the Jubilee trans man Shapiro reference. Isn't it ironic? A transgender, what does it say? Bastrodized the chairs. Is that what it says? I don't know. Yeah.

intended design as if they struggle to understand the creator's design. The issue is that when the trans man spins the chair around and straddles it is an affectation. The issue that I have with trans men particularly, because I can't speak for trans women because I'm not a woman. I can't speak for women, why they're offended by trans women. But trans men perform caricatures of what it means to be a man. I understand that women say the same thing about trans women. like when Dylan Mulvaney was wearing high, high boots like lifts, running through the force going, and then going, oh, my God, and like acting like women are retarded.

Women get offended by that being like, you're wearing my gender like a costume. That's what I see trans men doing. Like when Elliot Page, you know, takes her shirt off and then she's got what clearly looks to be ab implants. It's like, bro, I exercise all the time, okay? I skate, I'm fit. I got my legs are massive, my arms, they could do better. I don't have abs. I got a belly.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't, I don't get implants in my shirt and go, look at me. Nah, just I'm a guy. You know what I mean? There's a lot of dudes. They walk around with their big old bellies hanging out and they're just like, whatever. It's this weird thing where it's like to be a man. You get implants.

Some guys do. Some guys do. But it's an affectation. You don't need to go to the extreme of getting implants. You just got to put the soda pop down. John Water says, Mike Holtz always regurgitates fake leftist talking points in snake earmarks, while co-hosting the poker news podcast.

He's an unprofessional jerk who is not even that good at poker. Well, look, I brought it up because I'm going to say this. You can't do it. I had a conversation with some of the people who are working these events. And, of course, like, people got to understand. Poker news, let's just forget poker, right? Because I know a lot of people are like, I don't get, let's just say news outlet. They cover, let's say it's podcasting.

They cover these events. And one of their staff or contours, whoever, I don't know what his capacity is. He's a host of their show. Responds to their post saying, we should beat this person. Okay, that's a straight up criminal threat as far as I'm concerned. Now, it's interesting because he didn't say, Tim Poole, I'm going to beat the crap out of you, or, but he literally created an imminent threat saying, to other staff, we should commit this crime. This company is at every casino for every major poker event.

Now, what do we do? It's an honest question. What do we do? My security team is going to be like, we're going to go ahead and make an assumption that he was telling other staffers to physically beat you this time, this one time, we're going to assume it's not correct. Despite all the threats you've gotten, despite the security issues, despite Charlie Kirk's assassination, this one time, nope, they don't.

So what's going to happen now is I got to hire, I got to pay my security. over time to, to, when I go to these events, because there's more coming up and I play in a lot of them, make contact and be like, these people can't be here because they have threatened physical violence. So what do we do? And they're media. And they were very nice to me. The poker news guys, they like did a profile, like they interviewed me. They were very nice, very professionals, no politics. But then they have this one guy. And now we're like, we don't know who's who. We don't, we don't know which staffer is going to be like, Mike's right. beat the crap out of Tim Pua, I'm going to hit him if I see him.

And you know what? I'm going to be honest with you. Anybody who's ever been in a big poker, I'm a special like MGM, you've seen the cops bust in. So a couple months ago, a fight broke out of the table because people losing money. They don't like it. And cops run in full speed. They got special police working there.

And they dragged the guy out. Now I'm supposed to go to a tournament where this guy's telling other staffers to physically attack me. And I'm like, why are you doing this? Like, I don't want to spend money on this, but now we have to. and now I got to talk to the company and I got to be like, guys, this is really effing annoying for me. I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to tell you why.

This is the Potomac Summer Open $3,000 main event. I took 34th place for $5,754. So all these little whinging losers, I'm going to rip you a new one right now because it feels good to do. Here's poker news. Again, they were very nice to me. I thought they were very nice. and they did this like, I don't know, there you go. Political pundit Tim Poole says he made over $100 an hour playing low-stakes poker.

It's true. It's true. You can all cry. So I just want to let you guys know that $100 an hour is considered extremely high-grade professional in the poker world. It's very difficult to do. I'm actually flabbergasted that that is the general belief. And I'm just going to say this to all of the winging haters and losers who are like it's impossible that Tim Poole made $100 an hour playing low-stakes poker. You suck at poker. I'm good at poker. You're bad. That's why you're crying.

Dude, I'm just going to say this. Like, when I tell people poker's not gambling, it's literally not. Okay. And I'll just, I'll just ask like, what's your limping range, you know, on the small blind? And people who aren't going to know this math, you're not playing this game. These people, poker exist as a game because stupid people think they're good at poker. I say that with all due respect, because a lot of people are just having fun. But yo, I'm going to put it like this. If you can't sit down at a low stakes table on a Friday night when you got a bunch of people showing up from a show who are drunk or just having fun and don't care, and you buy in for $400, if you can't get a 25% increase in your chips in an hour, you are bad at poker and you need to study. So I'm just flabbergasted by these people who are like,

that's not possible. You can't do that. It's like, okay, I guess, well, I guess I'm good at poker. So, but long story short of it is there's a lot of threats coming in because of this. Most notably from the guy who works for poker news, I take it all very seriously. I'm going to be at some of the big major events. I do decently well. I've won probably like 16 tournaments.

I'm sorry, I haven't won. I've cashed. Maybe about 16 tournaments in the past four or five months. I've won one tournament for $1,000 for about $1,800. It was a $100 buying, I think. small pool of players. But, you know, it's not about poker. You guys know I play, though.

It's about I am done with these whack-a-loon lefties doing this. I'm going to put it like this, okay? I'm going to put it like this. Guys, I go to MGM, I go to Hollywood, I go to Maryland Live, I'm in Vegas. This is not politics, okay? We're hanging out, we're talking, and we're playing a game of resource management, wit, and what is a big component of it. I love it.

I'm not here to debate you on the merits of Trump's foreign policy. You want to, what they're trying to do, when this guy posts that I should be physically beaten, he's trying to make sure that the preeminent news organization for this sport doesn't cover what I'm doing. And they have no choice. I show up to this event. I'm the biggest personality there. It's not a brag.

It's just I've got 12 million followers and I'm at a poker event. What are they supposed to do? Ignore the fact that I'm there, they can't. So this guy is basically threatening me with violence and trying to get him to stop. This is what leftists do to try and control cultural spaces. So I say, no, we don't allow that. So we're going to play that game. But I'll give you a quick point on what you've got to understand about the skill of poker.

Here's a secret. You need to know if somebody studies when you're playing in a poker tournament especially. So you know what you do? When you sit down for the first time at the table with the guys, you say something like, So is everybody from here? And then guess what? One guy's going to go, no, no, I'm from Boston. And you go, oh, wow, are you here for work or something?

No, no, I'm here for the tournament. Okay, that guy's playing serious. He's probably going to be more studied. These are the things you have to understand about sizing up your opponents and knowing how to play the game. It's a lot of fun. Let's just because I'm ranting and talking about something most people don't care about. We'll just grab one more chat from you guys. We'll grab a super chat.

And see what you guys have. Let's see. Tusson Lorum says, have you mentioned the Dearborn thing yet? This might actually be the first solution in a decade. May God bless the bikers and in a Deerborn and their holy crusade guide their hands. Interesting. We're going to talk about that in the uncensored portion of the show at rumble.com slash Timcast. IRL. So smash the like button.

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