Timcast IRL - Trump To Deploy ICE Tactical Units Across US As LA Riots WORSEN, HUNDREDS Arrested w/ Anthony Brian Logan

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Brett are joined by Anthony Brian Logan to discuss Trump deploying ICE tactical units to multiple cities as anti-ICE unrest worsens, a new poll showing immigrants flocking towards Trump, ...Civil War fears igniting amid the riots in Los Angeles, and ICE raids targeting Home Depot being massively successful.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Brett  @PopCultureCrisis  (YouTube) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Anthony Brian Logan @ANTHONYBLOGAN (X)

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Starting point is 00:02:17 I'd like to thank Windows for automatically updating and disabling our audio settings as they frequently do. We learned this trick, you guys. Whenever there's like the show starts, there's an audio glitch and it happens periodically, coincides directly with a Windows update. How about that? So we got big news. Hundreds of arrests in LA,
Starting point is 00:02:36 hundreds of arrests across the country as the LA riots have expanded nationwide and are intensifying. And I think we're going into, what are we on? Is it tonight, night six? Six. Six, night six. Donald Trump is deploying tactical ice units. And I think we're going into what are we on tonight? Night six, six, six, night six. Donald Trump is deploying tactical ice units. These are basically like basically like, you know, SWAT ish kind of guys to several different Democrat sanctuary sanctuary cities and jurisdictions, which I can only I can only imagine will, I don't know, make Democrats very angry, angrier than they already are, I guess.
Starting point is 00:03:05 So we can see this is starting to heat up. And I think this was planned. Democrats knew this was going to be the protest plan. In fact, Rudyard Lynch told me earlier today was a great point. They waited until Elon and Trump had a rift and they could see there was a split between elements in the right before they started escalating these protests. So we will see. But we do have a lot of other big news. The other story is that the U.S. is evacuating embassies across the Middle East as there are fears Israel will strike Iran and then we may be dragged into that conflict as Iran then strikes against us. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we got a bunch of other news. David Hogg has been fired by the DNC. You'll love to see it. I don't know how these
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Starting point is 00:04:49 Who are you, what do you do? Well, I'm a conservative political commentator on YouTube, Facebook, Twitch, not Twitch yet, Twitter, everywhere, I'm on there. That's pretty much, I do similar to what you do. Right on, should be fun, thanks for hanging out. Right on. We got Bret hanging out. Guys, what's going on? And glad to see a long time viewer of your content thank you man
Starting point is 00:05:08 appreciate you let's go who are you i'm brett see i was like last time i was like do you just do the the the intro at the end just guys pop culture crisis monday through friday 3 p.m eastern standard time that's where i normally am i thought we just get the show going quicker this time how you doing my name is phil labonte i'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. My name's Zach Commus and I'm kind of revolutionary. Let's get into it. Here's the story from the LA Times. Immigration raids intensify with hundreds of arrests and tense moments across the LA area. Check this out. The White House confirmed on Wednesday that 330 people have been taken into custody by federal authorities since immigration
Starting point is 00:05:46 sweeps began last week in Los Angeles. White House Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt said of those 113 individuals, about a third of the group or about a third of the group had prior criminal convictions. Indeed, following this, ICE will be deploying tactical agents in Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, New York and Northern Virginia. Postmillennial reports, Immigration and Customs Enforcement is preparing to deploy special response teams, SRTs, to five urban areas. Seattle, Chicago, Philly, New York, Northern Virginia. As chaos is erupting in these Democrat-run cities, an exact timeline for the deployment remains unclear, but the order to stand by has already been issued to all SRT, all special response teams in the affected areas.
Starting point is 00:06:32 And I think it's going to light up this weekend. Curfew is still in place in Los Angeles. I heard that they actually made several arrests. There were some mass arrests after the curfew was enacted last night. And don't forget, we're going to have the No Kings protest this weekend, sponsored, of course, by Christy Walton, which is triggering a boycott from MAGA. Brought to you by Walmart. Indeed. Indeed. I don't know. What do you guys think? Well, no, the left was boycotting Target because they were getting rid of DEI policies. So all the big box stores are suffering right now. Yeah, apparently. I think that
Starting point is 00:07:07 the possibility for a new summer of love is actually materialized. I was a little skeptical about whether or not there was going to be something that had the impulse. I still don't think that this is going to be as widespread as this. Should there be a lot more? Should these riots
Starting point is 00:07:24 carry on? Should it be a lot more should these riots carry on should it be a lot more widespread i still don't think that it'll have the the cultural impact as the uh the 2020 because of the george floyd riots and because of the fact that again people have to go to work and when you shut the country down and you have people that can go out and do you know a little bit of fun activism throw stuff maybe get arrested by the cops, have a little fire in the street. People will do that because they're bored. I also think that one of it is there was a very, very iconic visual image.
Starting point is 00:07:56 The image of what happened to George Floyd was so embedded in people's minds. It was such an awful thing to look at. Whatever you think of what happened, that was a very, very stirring visual image and that led to a lot of what you saw. That was the key thing. The knee on the neck, that
Starting point is 00:08:13 drove everything and it went viral. But now, it's not really that kind of image. It's just the idea of the so-called immigrants being kicked out. And to that point, it's actually a situation where the images that are coming out are positive towards the conservative perspective.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Americans don't like to see foreigners waving foreign flags, fighting with our police officers. They just don't like to. Which country would allow that? None. Let's try maybe Costa Rica. You want to be on the beach by yourself with an american flag hey yeah look you know the countries with the least like functional governments countries like haiti and countries like possibly somalia you hear those countries
Starting point is 00:08:56 mentioned even they wouldn't put up no like you're gonna get literally chopped up in pieces and thrown on a barbecue in ha and Somalia you know the the local warlord isn't going to put up with it if you're waving his his opposing malicious flag you're the and they'll do things that are far more terrible to you there than are going to happen here and that's probably why you won't see anyone testing the limits there with where as you will here even in their own home country okay you're flying the flag of x country can you go to your country and do that what you're doing here no no i suppose one of the things they do have to worry about is as this goes on and as violence intensifies they have to worry about some type of police action getting taken too far and then getting clipped and then
Starting point is 00:09:39 being shown in a specific way if something goes horribly wrong and somebody does die in the middle of these protests at the hands of law enforcement and it's clipped the way that the left would like to clip these things which is not to show inciting incidents only show the aftermath of what happens that runs the risk of being another visual image that could be very powerful if it's shown to people on the internet yo it was it was crazy i was watching the five today and j and Jessica Tarloff was just lying. She was like, Trump's underwater, his polling's miserable, he's like minus 12 on immigration, and I was like, what? I track this stuff all day, every day. I read all the aggregate polling, and he's doing massively. His aggregate polling is about minus 2.6, so it's within the margin of
Starting point is 00:10:24 error. That's really good. And on immigration, he's net positive in aggregate. It's crazy. They cherry pick a singular poll that gives them the results they want, then go on TV and go, can you believe how bad Trump is doing? And the crazy thing is that Jesse didn't yell at her. Part of me feels bad for Jessica in that context, just because she's the chew know the the chew toy for
Starting point is 00:10:46 all the republicans beat her up all the time um and maybe she shouldn't you know well spread misinformation i i agree the the point that i'm making though is is when you're in that situation you have to be right and you can't spread misinformation like tim was saying you can't so you're saying just be a conservative well I mean that's not exactly what I was saying but it's it would functionally would probably be about the same but yeah it always does that they always put out a fake story or misleading information maybe they retract it a year later six months later but by the time you see the retraction it doesn't matter because the initial story is what is stuck in the minds of the people
Starting point is 00:11:23 and it's very hard to get people to change their mind about something once they believe it you know the first way they hear it is always it's as tim's brought up multiple times about the very fine people hoax is that when people are showed concrete evidence that what they were told was a lie they cling on to what they believe even harder because they don't your brain can't handle that a lot of the time you have to kind of come to those conclusions on your own like if you if you're ever somebody who's like made some type of journey politically from either the left to the right or even i guess if you're somebody who's gone from the right to the left i'm sure that that does happen is that you don't get there by your friends necessarily saying look at this this is what's true it's you go you know you have
Starting point is 00:12:00 slightly open mind and you go looking for information and i i i just think at this point it's a cult you know as i've stated numerous times but um i think more so now because uh several people i know are they they all know the talking point and i'm i'm saying right now there are people that i know that i've known for a long time and i'm seeing them post about this and they are intentionally lying as well now. Like it's not just the TV personalities and the prominent liberals in media. It's it's ground level grassroots liberal individuals intentionally lying. So the narrative now they're pushing is that there were no riots, that there were people peacefully playing music and dancing.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And then Trump called in the National Guard and started shooting people. They're omitting the Waymos being torched and burned. They're omitting the SUVs getting pelted with rocks and smashed up and set on fire. They're omitting the people taking over the highways. They're omitting the far left pelting the federal HQ where ICE was with rocks to stop them from getting out.
Starting point is 00:13:05 And they're just saying, no, it was just people were dancing. And then Trump attacked them. It's you know, you know, it reminds me of remember when Jack Posobo got punched and the cops watched it happen. And then some woman walks up, goes, I saw everything. Nobody hit him. Or no, no. She said she said something like I didn't see anything. And she just looks smugly into the camera. That's what they all do. From the bottom up, they are just, it's just a cult. You know, you're mentioning the fact that it's, you know, they're exceedingly dishonest is probably a charitable way.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Academic way to put it. Yeah, it's a charitable way to put it. And I just saw this on Twitter. Rolling Stone is saying that the No Kings protest, the headline says, Millions of Americans are expected to head to the streets on June 14th to oppose Trump's dictator-style birthday parade. What exactly? It's Flag Day. Yeah, it's Flag Day.
Starting point is 00:14:00 It's also the 250th birthday of the U.S. Army. There are multiple things going on. Well, there's nothing the left hates birthday of the u.s army like there are multiple things going on well there's nothing the left hates more than celebrating the american flag well yeah absolutely it's true but the the point is like the if i was on maybe i mean maybe the no kings protests or whatever the demonstrations are in response to this this uh parade because this parade's been you know he's been talking about i think he was talking about on the stump last year as well um but um but but still like they they can't get their message together they don't even know what they're angry about the these protests are or demonstrations are taking off nationwide and they're not really sure what they're protesting
Starting point is 00:14:42 other than donald trump and clearly they're these protests are going to merge in with the no kings. And they're going to be like, oh, this is just us rising up. But against what? Against the government enforcing the law that is broadly popular with the American electorate? Right. Half of those people are lying and the other half don't understand that what happened is far more complicated than what they're being shown right so if you're going to go for for instance over the fourth of july and you're going to go see family come armed with the videos of of the you know the bricks off the bridge and the waymo's burning and all of the violence that's happened because they're not they will have not
Starting point is 00:15:18 seen any of that they didn't pay attention to any of that and if they did it was in the context of some talking head on the screen telling them, this has been a mostly peaceful and, you know, they're just out there having fun. Bonfires. That's what they were doing. They were having bonfires on the Waymos. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Peaceful bonfires. Peaceful bonfires. That made me think of it. On racist Waymos. That's right. Well, you know. Now it's okay. They're stealing jobs from the, you know. That's right. Well, you know. Now it's okay. They're stealing jobs from the...
Starting point is 00:15:45 That's right. Waymos are stealing jobs from the people who cook our food and clean our toilets. Look who drives Ubers. They're almost always immigrants. Waymo is stealing jobs from immigrants. That's a good point. You know? And when you...
Starting point is 00:16:01 Burn the Waymos. There was this video that went viral of this Asian woman in a taxi. and she's like, if you don't care about families being ripped apart, then maybe you care about being selfish. Don't you know that all these illegal immigrants – and then she goes through this list of they're more likely to clean your toilet and cook your food and do construction. And I was just like, Democrats want slaves. Yeah. She outright says in this video that these people can't vote. They get low pay. They get no benefits.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And we love it. And I'm like, I don't. Send them home. It's the same exact thing they did from the beginning. They freed the slaves and then they've been mad about it ever since. They're trying to find another way to get it, basically. Bring in illegal immigrants. Joe Biden literally did this.
Starting point is 00:16:46 He created probably one of the largest slave classes anywhere in the world. What he did was brings in millions of noncitizens, has the CBP then give them their hearings for their asylum status, and then drops all the cases, creating de facto permanent residency with no rights. So now you have people who get paid dirt to work low-skilled jobs, no benefits, no recourse, no unions, no OSHA, none of those protections. And that's what the Democrats have been doing. They've been desperate for their slaves back. I mean, unless you're in California where they want to give you the right to vote and
Starting point is 00:17:24 $9.5 billion in tax payment. And D.C. as well. That's crazy. Totally crazy. But it's that permanent underclass of people that they want to have. You know, you do all the jobs, the dirty jobs, all that kind of stuff. It's for y'all. So that's why I kind of get offended when they say, oh, they do
Starting point is 00:17:40 the jobs that Americans don't want to do. It's like, no, you guys don't want to do those jobs. I have no problem doing those jobs. They don't want to do any jobs they don't want to do we saw that guy and he was like oh no work in that video that was a terrible video awful hated that guy depends on what's wrong with these four you know it's crazy to me because you i can see the psychological disorder in that man for those that aren't familiar there's this video going viral black woman is arguing with these protesters saying like i need to get to work like what I can see the psychological disorder in that, man. For those that aren't familiar, there's this video going viral. Black woman is arguing with these protesters saying, like, I need to get to work.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Like, what about my kids? And then Savannah Hernandez asks this white guy who's blocking the car. And she's like, how do you feel about blocking a black woman from going to work? And he goes, oh, no, work. It's crazy to me because I want to work all the time nonstop. Everything I do, I'm working. I wake up, I work, I eat food, skate, and then I work. But these people have some kind of fractured mind, this derangement, where they literally are the, they want to do the opposite. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:18:34 how have we cultivated generations, plural, of this kind of person? Who just has no desire to work whatsoever. And I want to stress, I'm not talking about oh, it's like what they end up saying is so you can make some billionaire rich. It's like, dude, sell beads, man. Put a blanket on the ground and sell beads. These people don't want to do anything.
Starting point is 00:18:56 The cop out of oh, you know, I'm going to make my boss rich or etc. etc. If you're going to work and you're focused on that, I feel like well i mean i'm not sure why you would focus on that but like your needs must be met right if you if you can say oh i'm making this other guy rich then you must be making enough money so that way you have time to think about things like man it's not i'm not i'm not getting as much as i want to get
Starting point is 00:19:21 well they think that in the communist revolution that they will be the one who makes the art. That's what they all think. They all think that way. It's like, no, you're going to get shot first, actually. Don't worry about it. Well, no, I mean, even if not that, you'll be sent to the mines. You'll be sent to work.
Starting point is 00:19:35 But this is historically correct. The revolutionary is the first to be removed after a revolution because they are the biggest threat to the new power structure. That's right. Yeah, I was talking to Rudyard Lynch earlier, and he was making the point that, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:47 the French Revolution was incoherent. This is what leftists and communists tend to do. They have no coherent framework, and so it just tends to be chaos when they end up overthrown a country. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And that's why the revolution is constant, is because the revolution, as they install the new power base or whatever, like invariably has hierarchy, has all kinds of things that the left just says are bad and stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:16 And so you have to have a constant revolution because all existing hierarchies will calcify and become oppressive and stuff. So there has to be a consistent revolution. That's why you had, you know, Cuba had the, the revolution was ongoing and they were today 40 years after the, the revolution, the Venezuelan government calls it the revolution.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah. So, I mean, it's been decades. And when I was, I was there 10 years ago and they said that I was a threat to the revolution. And it's like, it's been 20 years with what revolution you're talking about? It's ongoing. It never stops. And it's because
Starting point is 00:20:48 when they say evil dictator is bad man, fascists are bad, but then remove all of that and they're in control, they have to keep telling you, no, no, they're still here, you know, somewhere lurking, ready to bring fascism back. Oddly enough, it's the same way that like nonprofits work, which is that if they actually achieve their goal, they don't need to exist anymore if you're a charity. Like if you're looking to cure some disease, you don't actually benefit from curing the disease because then you're not making any money
Starting point is 00:21:17 for the executives anymore. Well, yep. I told this, I heard a story a long time ago and I'm going to leave the company out of it. But everybody who knows me knows the name of the company, but a shoe company. I met a guy who said he was like a mid-level manager, VP, and he quit because they said, we're not selling enough shoes because they last too long. Is there a way we can make them fall apart faster? Can we remove a certain percentage of the material from the sole, perhaps? And he was
Starting point is 00:21:42 like, is this a joke? And they were like, people are wearing their shoes for months what do we do and he's like make a good shoot nope that's not the way it works let's jump to the story from the post millennial cnn data analyst sees tremendous 40 point shift among immigrants to gop on the issue of border security and ice enforcement yes indeed my friends it just so happens that almost all of the people who are complaining are white liberal women. And maybe that's why Kate Bolden was struggling through this segment with Harry and. Start off on the fact that immigrant citizens, immigrant voters, foreign born voters have gone tremendously to the right on this issue in 2024 and 2025 versus where they were
Starting point is 00:22:25 in 2020. Closest to her trust more in immigration. You go back to 2020. Democrats get this, held a 32-point lead on this issue. Immigrant voters were in the Democratic camp. Jump forward to 2024, 2025. Look at that shift. A 40-point shift to the right among immigrant voters. Republicans now lead on this issue by eight points over Democrats, more so than any other group that I could find. The group of voters who became more hawkish on immigration were in fact immigrants themselves.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Immigrants were registered to vote in this country. Democrats, that's called being on the right side of history. Well, that's on that issue. How about how they feel about, kind of traditionally, historically about Donald Trump? Yeah. So, you know, you see this shift and you go, what is going on underneath the hood? Well, take a look, Donald Trump. You remember when he first ran back in 2016, immigrant voters are one of his weakest box.
Starting point is 00:23:17 But look at this. Trump's vote share in presidential elections among, again, immigrant citizens, those who are registered to vote. Look at this. 2016, he got 36 percent of the vote. You go to 2020, 39% of the vote. Look at this. In 2024, all the way up to 47% of the vote. Some polls I looked at had him barely losing that vote. Some polls I looked at had him barely winning that vote. Again, there is no block of voters that shifted more to the
Starting point is 00:23:40 right from 2020 to 2024 than immigrant voters. And Donald Trump, at least in some surveys, actually won that vote. On average, it's about equal. So there may be all this stuff, right, about undocumented immigrants and Trump being harsh on them. But immigrant voters themselves have increasingly liked Donald Trump and have increasingly moved to the right on immigration into the Republican camp. Well, then on that, what you're getting at, how immigrant citizens, voters, feel about people in the country illegally.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Yeah, and this is where it all kind of comes together, Kate Baldwin, look at this. The net favorable rating, immigrants who are here illegally, among immigrant citizens, again, those registered to vote. In 2020, look at this, plus 23 points on the net favorable rating.
Starting point is 00:24:24 But look at where we were in 2024, minus six points, underwater. So immigrant citizens have become increasingly unfavorable in their views of those immigrants who are here illegally. So I think it's so important when we're talking about this debate from a political angle to separate those out who are undocumented immigrants versus those who are here legally. Wow, it took them only 10 years to figure out that not all immigrants are illegal and that the people who come here legally, they tend to be successful. They tend to work really, really hard. You know, what's fascinating is when you look at Filipino and Nigerian immigrants, the United States who come here legally, they have very high salaries.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Yeah. Hardworking people who did everything right to come to this country. They believe in it. Or as Serge was talking about before the show, South African refugees enter the country waving the American flag. Actual American citizens living in California wave the Mexican flag. very easy for people to understand, which is that it's not cheap to move to this country. It's a difficult process to move to this country. Having to take a test to understand the ethics of America, its history, it's not something you undertake lightly. It's something you do because you, theoretically, you believe in what that country stands for. So why wouldn't somebody who works that hard, who put that much money, time, and effort to come to a new country, want to wave its flag,
Starting point is 00:25:47 and to not understand the difference between that and someone who comes here without having to do any of that, to not understand why that person would be upset at the guy who's skipping the line is patently insane. Nobody outside of the stupidest people on earth would be befuddled by that. You should see what I do when someone skips the line with me at 7-Eleven.
Starting point is 00:26:10 People gotta understand the issue, legal versus illegal. I don't understand why people don't want to address that mainstream media. If you're here legally, I love you. No problem. You're following the law. Illegally, that's when we got the problem. And they make it a race issue too. It's like, look, if there's a dude here from East from Eastern Europe that did that, skip the line.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I don't want them here either. Any color. I don't know. Doesn't matter. Your definitions are bad to the left because they can't use the the gray area to sneak past the rules. I think I want the rules. I got ragged on by a bunch of liberals a year or two ago. I told a story about how Allison and I went to a restaurant and we walked up and said, table for two, and they said it'll be a few minutes.
Starting point is 00:26:54 And I said, okay. And then they seated three different couples before us who had just walked in and I was like, what's going on? Why are these people getting seats? We've been sitting here waiting for 20 minutes now. And they were like, sorry about that. And I was like, and i was like no i'm leaving i said i'm gonna go somewhere else we'll go to a restaurant and liberals took that clip and then started sharing it like crazy and i couldn't for life of me understand what about it was controversial i was like i just
Starting point is 00:27:15 decided not to go to a restaurant in their minds you should just sit down shut up and do as you're told and you'll get what you deserve when you deserve it so when you when you when you i wonder if the real idea was they didn't want to perpetuate the idea that we should not tolerate line jumping and those who break the rules and take out of turn. There's a lot of stuff that's in there. They don't like the fact that you were assertive
Starting point is 00:27:36 enough to say no I'm not going to just accept what's going on here. I'm going to use the agency that I have to affect my life which is something that we talk about. The left doesn't like to act like they can affect. Everything happens to them. They don't have the ability to make changes in the world. It's not your fault.
Starting point is 00:27:51 It's always someone else's and you can't succeed. So your behavior probably got them. It probably struck multiple nerves with them. I mean. Because you're like, well, I'm not going to just sit here. It's also the mentality of I would rather not eat than do business someone who is is disrespectful or or or ruleless unruly is a better word but how was that controversial though i mean it's like a pretty basic thing to do it's like okay i'm standing here i'm waiting i'm minding
Starting point is 00:28:17 my business people coming by they're getting seated i'm not getting seated why would i want to eat here obviously i'm not being respected let me just go somewhere else. I know. My attitude with all this stuff is, okay, you don't owe me anything. I don't owe you anything. You clearly don't want me here. I'm going to leave. But they all started posting these clips. They were loving it. And I think things like that show the mentality of many
Starting point is 00:28:37 of these people. Why are they communists? It's because the only way to change something like that from happening is to totally remove the revolution in the industry. Government should control and make sure these things can't happen things like that the more you also pick like a completely arbitrary unachievable goal the more you just get to kind of make the excuse that nothing changes and that it's always someone else's fault so you push you kind of kick the can down the road eternally and things never change. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:29:05 like I said, the, the, the ability to have agency or the, the idea that they have agency and they can affect the, the world they live in. It's bad. I think,
Starting point is 00:29:14 I think you nailed it. The reason why, cause I'm like, even telling the story, it sounds like, like who cares that they freaked out about this. It's because I'm telling young people, stand up for yourself and solve your own problems.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Find solutions. Go work for yourself and make something happen. Better than telling people you're just demonstrating. You're not trying to tell people how to live. You're just saying, this is what I did. And that's kind of like a leadership quality. This happens on the show when we cover it, which is like half of Hollywood likes to complain
Starting point is 00:29:41 about the salaries on gendered lines. So anytime there's an actress who gets offered money and turns it down because they didn't offer her enough. I'm like, yes, do that. Do what this person did who bet on herself and said, look, I'm worth more money than that. You better pay me what I deserve or else I'm going to walk. And it seems normal to us, but you have to encourage this because they don't understand it. But the way the left works is there will be a movie with a male lead and a female lead, and it'll be like
Starting point is 00:30:08 Brie Larson and Robert Downey Jr. Robert Downey Jr. will be given $100 million for his upcoming role, and she'll get seven. And then she's going to be like, look at this pay disparity. But then when the female lead is like Scarlett Johansson and the male lead is like some unknown dude, there's no, nobody cares. Right. No.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Because they're leftists they make excuses and they lie so they can steal power also back to your point about the video you were talking about earlier when they when savannah hernandez asked him that maybe he was just trying to sidestep the racial aspect of it by bringing up work he didn't he didn't have like he literally within their own worldview he didn't have a a good answer because their worldview makes no sense so he had to sidestep and make it about something other than race they don't really care about race they'll talk about race a lot they'll champion race a lot but they really don't care when you really bullet down they don't care i i'd be willing to bet you that guy taught like we always
Starting point is 00:30:58 refer to these woke people as white supremacists with guilty consciences yeah i'd be willing to bet that if you put a surveillance camera on that guy and watch his everyday interactions he's probably one of the most racist people you end up seeing or at the very least just riddled with white guilt for everything that he's been told by colleges but that is it's basically there's a person who hates minorities or black people and then are they going to be aggressive with it or are they going to try and virtue signal? And the liberals go the virtue signal route, but they're still overtly racist. I love pulling up that Yale study. Have you ever seen this one? I don't think the Yale study on
Starting point is 00:31:34 this one. Let me see. Yale, white liberals, white. I love bringing this up. And I'm wondering, actually, if you've ever experienced this, this Anthony white liberals present themselves as less competent in interactions with African Americans yeah the white liberals are the worst that everybody has to deal with Captain Manblane like him and his mom in that video I hate them whenever I see them I go the other direction because I know
Starting point is 00:31:57 it's going to be a bad interaction every single time conservatives don't do it this is the thing conservatives, libertarians they will just talk to you and if you don't understand they'll explain they just talk like you're normal right liberals intentionally act less competent because they're racist yeah they think that black people can't get ids or figure out how to use the internet yeah that's the funniest thing i've seen that it's like come on man just go to the dV. It's like, we're regular citizens
Starting point is 00:32:25 like everybody else. They don't see us that way. They see us the same way they see the migrants as the permanent underclass. Hey, you guys just work, clean the toilets. Y'all just do that.
Starting point is 00:32:34 You're not really people. In that Ami Horowitz video, my favorite interaction, I'll bring it up whenever I can, is I'm sure most people are familiar with this video. It's one of the most massively, have you seen this one
Starting point is 00:32:44 where I think you were- I've seen that, yeah. He goes to Berkeley college students and says, can black people get IDs? And they're like, no. They just don't know how to use the internet and things like that. Then he goes to New York. He goes to Harlem and the Bronx. And then he asks them, do you have a phone? And this lady's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Does it have the internet? She's like, yeah, why? And he's like, I'm just curious. I'm just curious because these liberals are saying you don't have it. But my favorite is when he goes to this older black guy and he's like, do you why? And he's like, I'm just curious. I'm just curious because these liberals are saying you don't have it. But my favorite is when he goes to this older black guy and he's like, do you know where the DMV is? Yeah, if you go up on 25th Street, you make a left. Like, of course he's giving him directions he knows how well.
Starting point is 00:33:18 It's insane to me that they live in this bubble world, these liberals. They go to this – they're from white enclaves. They go to overly white universities where they stand up and say, we need to go burn down the city to save black people. And then when a black lady shows up saying, I'm just trying to get to work, they go, we don't care about you. Right. That's the, I don't, I don't, I can't conceive of the method that you have to use to get from burning down the city to we'll save black people. Like, what are you, what are you talking about? What does that mean? They don't really care about saving anybody other than themselves in my opinion in the video with savannah i think that dude and his mom were there getting paid
Starting point is 00:33:52 she's trying to get to work he's like i'm at work you're in the way he's like my check already cleared man it's already clear i gotta stay out here and they're watching me so if i leave i'm not gonna get come on what are we doing it's already in the bank. I'm smart. I get paid before I go to work. You go to work and then get paid. Look, and a lot of it is proven just like in 2020 that they don't actually care about the cause that they're actually advocating for, especially on like the, on the granular level. If you think about like what I mentioned earlier, like David Dorn in 2020, if you ask the average person who was out rioting during 2020, they don't know who that was. They don't know what happens. And they certainly don't understand why we would consider that a tragedy. Right. And if you can't look at something like
Starting point is 00:34:34 that, which is weird too, because they seem to think of empathy as like a, something on the macro scale, you have to be empathetic to an entire group of people. Whereas I think maybe the more well-adjusted version is I have empathy for people that I see in my everyday life. Or you look at an individual example of something awful that happened to someone and you're like, yes, I can have empathy for this person in this situation.
Starting point is 00:34:55 But the problem is that is not politically expedient because it doesn't speak to a larger cause. You have to have mass toxic levels of empathy for all people. And look, that's not good for politicians. It's not good for CEOs. And yes, for you or I, we can have empathy, especially when you talk about these examples with the riots or even the stuff going on with ICE where they're going into neighborhoods. And then the people in that neighborhood are going to be uniquely affected by that because those are their neighbors, their confidants, their people
Starting point is 00:35:22 in their lives that they know on a daily basis. That's different. But if you go to somebody on the internet who doesn't know that person, doesn't know anything about that, but just sees what the large scale issues are in the country and how it's perceived that immigration plays, illegal immigration plays in those problems, there's no empathy to be had there. That's not the point of the discussion. And that doesn't help them politically.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Let's jump to this from the mirror. Ladies and gentlemen, I have been holding this one back for months. Civil war. From the mirror, Los Angeles is just the start of a big, beautiful civil war. I'm sorry, it says just the start.
Starting point is 00:35:58 A big, beautiful civil war is coming to America. Peaceful protests are rebellion, Hispanics are illegal, and up is down in Trump's America, says Fleet Street Fox. There will be a civil war before this man is through. Now, to be fair, this is often a overly snarky, somewhat satirical writer for the Mirror, but this is well intended to be, I guess, inflammatory. This woman is very much serious in what she's writing.
Starting point is 00:36:25 I'll give you a few examples. She writes, fired upon with rubber bolts and stun grenades. And America is such a great nation that this is considered mercy, as these snub-nosed non-lethal rounds, 4 centimeters wide and 10 centimeters long, tear flesh apart and usually stop before they reach an organ, rather than pierce with the deadly certainty of a 9 millimeter hollow point.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Can I just ask you, Phil, real quick about that last line? Pierce with deadly certainty of a 9 millimeter hollow point? I like the hollow points because they expand and they don't go all the way through, but that's just me. When I first read this too, I was like, they're not meant to be piercing shots.
Starting point is 00:37:13 They penetrate and expand. I guess, we're not going to argue semantics, they do pierce through the skin, technically, but pierce usually implies a sharp point puncturing through something and you know but anyway i know through and throughs it's gonna burrow into an organ and it's gonna stay there he doesn't know anything about about this is a a ridiculous article um claiming look
Starting point is 00:37:36 what are they right uh hispanics are illegal and everything and you may be saying yeah maybe they're just being over the top well here's mother jones they're not illegal they're just being over the top. Well, here's Mother Jones. They're not illegal. They're just regulated. Will Trump force America to break up? He seems determined to try. And then you have this from Milwaukee Independent from just a week ago. MAGA's vision of a second civil war dangerously misreads America's fragmented political geography. I would go and say, I don't know what the Milwaukee Independent is, but congratulations to whoever wrote this. It is the most ill-informed, by insights, ill-informed article on the issue I've ever read, so much so that it couldn't be AI. It would have to be a human being because at least AI would get some basic facts correct. But the narrative that's emerging from the L.A. riots is once again in the media the prospect of a second American Civil War.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I talked to Rudyard Lynch earlier today, as I've mentioned several times now, and he was saying he thinks it will happen in the media, the prospect of a second American civil war. I talked to Rudyard Lynch earlier today, as I've mentioned several times now, and he was saying he thinks it will happen in the next few years. He doesn't know when, but this may be a component of it. But the right will surely win. And his prediction is that we are like the fall of the Roman Republic and we will end up Donald Trump will be victorious. The right will win. And then by the end of this century, we will have an empire, a militaristic empire, military dictatorship. Yeah. Right. Right. You agree? Yes, of course. million if you count like returns at the border and obama deported three million it was five million if you counted people who returned away at the border um trump's like struggling to get to one and they're all like get on my level and now everybody's mad it's the republicans that are actually supposed to be mad right now because he's not reaching deportation levels that he promised
Starting point is 00:39:20 everyone but it's being exaggerated in the media by means of propaganda you're right but the remember the democrats nowadays are are not the same as they were 15 years ago like the the democrat yeah the democrat party is now largely run by progressives and further left and they're trying to figure out whether or not there's any room for, you know, for the old school blue dog Democrats. That's why Donald Trump, RFK, Tulsi Gabbard, you know, these people are no longer in the Democrat Party because I feel like, uh, the left, like leftism and liberalism gets kind of overused interchangeably a lot of the time. And immigration is one of those ones. That's a great kind of litmus test because it is a liberal idea to believe in borders.
Starting point is 00:40:17 It is not a liberal idea or it is not a progressive idea to believe in borders. Right? So if somebody claims themselves to be a liberal or a Democrat, and they don't believe that borders are real, and that no human being can be illegal, because that's a ridiculous thing to think about, it just shows you how different we are from even 10 years ago. I think they're also uninformed.
Starting point is 00:40:38 A lot of people that vote left, they're really uninformed. They don't know a lot of things. So whatever they see on television, they're pretty much good with that. And they don't know a lot of things. So whatever they see on television, they're pretty much good with that. And they don't know anything else about anything. That actually speaks to the point that Tim makes regularly about what woke is. It's people that aren't actually
Starting point is 00:40:53 married to an ideology or anything. They're just kind of following what is the current trend. Whereas I do think that that's the majority of of the people on the left um i think that those are also the people that are the ones that are running cover for the actual leftists on the ground because when it comes to you know
Starting point is 00:41:18 even the the riots like those there's different groups of people there's at least half of them to three quarters of them are just out there because, you know, setting fires in the streets is kind of fun. And you're, you know, 20 years old and you got nothing to do and you don't have anything to lose. And if you get arrested. And you're being told you're morally right. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:36 You're doing the right thing. You're fighting fascism. So there's only a handful of any of these groups that actually know, have an ability to articulate why they're there and what they're doing. It's an extremely attractive thing to people to be able to do bad things for the perceived right reasons. When you can kind of cloak your bad deeds in some type of moral cause, it makes you even more likely for a certain type of person to commit acts like that. But also, is there a financial component? Are we seeing people getting paid to go out there?
Starting point is 00:42:08 Is there anything that's being funded? Are we getting weapons shipped to these places? That's something that there's been video evidence of. I don't have any links right this second, but I can find them. There were brand new masks being dumped off to people last night. Pre-printed signs. Yeah. I used to work in print. Pre-printed signs. Yeah. I used to work in print.
Starting point is 00:42:26 So when I see all the pre-prints, I'm like, I know exactly how much that costs. That's a lot of money. It takes time. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It does take time. Let's say I wanted to print like a thousand signs. How much time in advance would you need?
Starting point is 00:42:38 Oh, I'm going to need some time. If I got a printing press, we're talking about like yard signs. Like the other ones they hold up on spikes. Oh, like those? Yeah, give me about at least about three to four days to go to the press. I couldn't just do that overnight, usually. The point being, they're prepared and they've organized for you. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Have you seen the video of like the iPhones screaming at you after they got stolen? Like the iPhones on the street that started beeping because they were stolen from the stores? What, really? Yeah, like so, like the- After the, really? Yeah, like so... After the looting? Yeah, after the looting. What? I didn't see that. Yeah, there was iPhones just screeching to be basically saying, return me to the store. At least all it does is squeal.
Starting point is 00:43:16 That's a good idea, man. Apple's like, not on our watch. They're not taking our phones. Yo! This is hilarious. Get away with some things, but you ain't getting away with all the phones. Yo, this is BG on away with some things, but you ain't getting away with all the ones. Yo, this is BG on the scene. Check this out. Now that is funny.
Starting point is 00:43:32 It says, please return to the Apple Tower Theater. This device has been disabled and is being tracked. Local authorities will be, what does it say? I mean, let's be real. The local authorities probably weren't going to do anything about it. So they just threw him on the ground. Yeah, just got out of there. I know somebody probably brought it back to their house,
Starting point is 00:43:53 trying to fix it, and it's like, no, so everybody go to the penitentiary. Wrap it up in a towel. Yeah, trying to mop it up. Yo, this is crazy. Your Android wouldn't do this to you. Just another way to know that you should have just gotten an Android instead. You guys know that Androids take a picture of you when you get the code wrong.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Oh, really? Yeah. Well, I don't know about all of them. Mine does. If you try and do the pattern, it doesn't work. It takes a picture, and then it uploads the picture instantly to emails it. So I have a bunch of pictures of my face like... They're usually like this.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Because I'm sitting in bed, and I sausage finger the pattern and it doesn't work. And then it takes a picture of me and I'm like... I want to reiterate. Look, if you're going to a barbecue over the holiday weekend at the start of next month, bring the videos of what's happening so when your leftist or your liberal aunt starts telling you how it was extremely peaceful, that you just show like, look, if starts telling you how it was extremely peaceful, that you just show like, look, if you can show me how this is peaceful, I will concede. Man, look, I done tried that.
Starting point is 00:44:51 I've done that. I'm that guy that thinks giving dinner table, hey, have you seen this? And they're still like, I don't believe that. That's fake. That's AI. I was like, I can't help you. Look, it's the boomers that are getting tricked by the AI, too. So if they're calling AI. Some of the AI is really good, though.
Starting point is 00:45:07 I done got fooled. I was like, wow, they really... Did you see the video of the different types of influencers on the scene at the riots or the end of the world? No. It's every archetype of influencer. It's the crypto bro. It's the OnlyFans model.
Starting point is 00:45:23 How would I Google this? You'd have to do it on X. It's an AI video, right? Yeah, it's the crypto bro it's the only fans model how would i google this i don't you'd have to do it on on uh x it's an ai video right yeah it's an ai video it's really what is the video it's it's all the different influencers reacting to the end of the world oh right yeah i saw that one yeah yeah that was funny but and she's like a woman running and there's explosions behind her and she's like don't forget to like and subscribe the way the guy's like he's like he's like this isn't the end of the world. This is another dip, and I'm buying more right now.
Starting point is 00:45:48 It's just kind of, I'm imagining the aliens that watch Earth, like a nature documentary, are watching all of the weird stuff people are doing with their social media, and they're just like, oof. Yeah. I remember when I lived in Jersey, I was getting the mail or something, and then I saw this 13-year-old girl standing in the middle of the street, just going like, it's like, those are just listening. I'm doing weird body movements.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Doing a video. And then I was like, I didn't know what she was doing. And I was like, Hey, yo, what's she standing in the middle of the street? What is she doing? Oh. And then I saw her phone in a mailbox pointed at her and I was like, oh, she's doing a TikTok. Yeah. But like, it looked like she was kind of spazzing out in the middle of the road it looks crazy if you see a TikTok video in real life
Starting point is 00:46:28 without the camera the context you look crazy oh it's hilarious watching how people fake all these videos oh yeah like you go to the mall and then you'll see you can see people I'm sure might be watching I've seen this happen where they stage stuff and you'll see like a person walking really slow stuff like that or like standing in front of a fountain frozen. And there's someone just like moving around all crazy with the camera. And I'm like, oh, wow. Yeah. I wonder how much TikTok comes in.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Did you see the rapper who shut down the highway in California? They got a bunch of cars to block the highway and then he got out and they hung a microphone from the back of a truck. That was Atlanta. I saw that. It was Atlanta? Yeah. Okay, yeah. I knew people that were stuck in that traffic.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I mean, he's probably going to get a felony or something, isn't he? I think it might have been police that understood what was going on. I don't know, because Atlanta's weird like that. Say what you want about the record industry, but at least they would have gotten a permit to do it. Yeah. Man, that video, that phone thing is crazy. Why steal them?
Starting point is 00:47:26 What's the point? For justice. We're not dealing with very smart people here. Part of me likes the future for this reason. Just like, you know, the idea of someone going in to loot a CVS, and then as they're grabbing and they're out the door, they just get frozen in suspended animation. And then it's like, that's it.
Starting point is 00:47:44 No one has to touch them. They're not hurting anyway. And as far as they know, they blink they blink and the cop standing right in front of them cuffing them you know i kind of like that i don't know i know it sounds creepy and the future is scary and all that stuff and this freaks people out because they're like the surveillance the surveillance freedom and security and i'm just like hey man come on yeah i get it 2025 and it's not going to slow down with the AI it's only going to accelerate what would you guys think if the police
Starting point is 00:48:12 were given devices that if they point at you and press the button you can't move you feel no pain you actually feel pretty chill but you can't move would it be better that we give all cops that ability? Nah, because that's going to get weaponized for sure.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Of course. But then the alternative is tasers and handguns. Hey, tase me. Tase me, bro. I'm all right. I'd rather we get tased than to be suspended in space like that. But, you know, it's like, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:44 What do you guys think? No, leave it the way it is yeah it's like you get stopped by a cop and then some guy you know there's an altercation and the cop gets mad or whatever or or the person panics and the cop panics and then he shoots him when the comics go click and the guy just doesn't move and he's like oh my bad that's not even a gun i'm sorry about that and then there's not even any pain yep the reason i bring it up is because it's kind of freaky the idea that a cop could just point something and you click and you're paralyzed you can't move
Starting point is 00:49:08 but it's better than shootouts it's better than is the police officer in question a man or a woman ah good question I did I don't know if you saw my tweet about this a question for men if you were alone in the woods,
Starting point is 00:49:25 would you rather encounter a bear or a lady cop? Man, that's a head scratcher. It actually depends on the kind of bear. Polar bear, no. Brown bear, probably not. Black bear, I would rather encounter the black bear than the lady police officer. The black bear?
Starting point is 00:49:42 Absolutely. Black bears will run from you. No, black bears. Black bears compared to brown bears are way better. The black bear? Absolutely. Black bears will run from you. No, black bears... Black bears compared to brown bears are white. The grizzlies and the polar bears are the ones that'll... Oh, it's if a black bear attacks you, you'll die. Well, you'll probably die. Any bear...
Starting point is 00:49:56 Grizzlies will... So with... What is it? If it's brown, lay down. If it's black, fight back. If it's white, good night. Yes. So black bears maul you to death.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Grizzly bears will slosh you around and then leave once you're not a threat. The reason you fight back to black bears, though, is because black bears tend to be timid, and they'll run away from you. So you fight, you make noise, you act like you're big. I don't believe that's correct. I believe it's because black bears maul you to death. Not that they can't or won't, but a grizzly bear is between 7 and 10 foot when they stand on their hind legs. A black bear is between 6 and 8 or something like that. So they're smaller and they tend to be timid.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I'm going to tell you, Phil, I asked you at GBT and it says you're wrong. It says that black bears are very rare and when they do appear, they see you as prey. Fighting back has a high rate of fighting them off. If it's a black bear, attack back. If it's a grizzly, play dead. But it's not because they're timid. It's because, and my understanding is
Starting point is 00:50:58 black bears will kill you. They don't care if you're weak or not. You're prey. Whereas grizzlies, you're a threat. With a grizzly, you curl up, you cover your neck and then the grizzly will be care if you're weak or not. You're prey. Whereas grizzlies, you're a threat. And so with a grizzly, you curl up, you cover your neck, and then the grizzly will be like, you're not a threat, it'll leave. Black bears are like, I'm going to eat you.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Go mode, right away. I'm going for the kill. Yeah. Black bears always run away whenever they hear humans in New Hampshire. I don't know. Maybe they learned a lesson because in New Hampshire, they got those rifles. I mean, I don't know. Maybe they learned a lesson because in New Hampshire
Starting point is 00:51:27 they got those rifles. I mean, I don't know. The season. Generally, I was under the impression that black bears would avoid people
Starting point is 00:51:36 unless they were like, they were like going for garbage. I think it's for all bears that you're supposed to make noise so they get scared. Yeah. I had a black bear come to Sheets near where I was, and it freaked out, ran away really fast.
Starting point is 00:51:49 There's no camera on you. Yeah, I don't know why it's on. Oh. I want to reset, but... That's okay. Either way, I'm taking the female police officer because I'll just outrun her. Actually, the female cop can't really do too much
Starting point is 00:52:02 unless she gets to her tool belt. She's armed, though. Okay, if it's female cop with no tool belt, no unless she gets to her tool belt. She's armed, though. Okay. If it's a female cop with no tool belt, no problem. It was funny because I got a response. It's obviously a joke. I've encountered female cops before. To be fair, though, now that I think about it, they were never good interactions.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I told that story about how I got robbed by cops. It was two lady cops. Wow. I was in New York. You got robbed in the USA? By two by cops. It was two lady cops. Wow. I was in New York. You got robbed in the USA? By two lady cops. So not literally, but technically. What happened was I was at a bar on the other side of the Williamsburg Bridge in New York.
Starting point is 00:52:33 And so I was leaving, called an Uber. And I lived just down Broadway. So anybody who lives in New York knows you cross the, is it the Williamsburg Bridge? I think so. And then you go right into Broadway. And it's a straight shot, no turns. So I call, I think it was a green cab or it was a yellow cab actually because i'm in manhattan and i go in the back and i say here's my address he drives across the bridge and i'm
Starting point is 00:52:53 half passed out but i'm awake and then he turns left and i immediately go yo yo where are you going where you going it's like i'm going i'm going i'm like no no no i'm down broadway you're turning left here he was he was trying to do this is what they do they run up the meter so i said stop stop stop stop stop i'm gonna get out now and he says no and he hits the gas so then i'm like freaking out so as soon as there's a car in front of us and the light turns red it's slowing down i pop the door and jump out it's a gas station and then he slams his brakes on gets out it's screaming at me the the the the. The meter was like 14 bucks. And then I said, dude, back off. And he was squaring up.
Starting point is 00:53:29 And so I went to the gas station. I was like, yo, call the cops. This guy's freaking me out. He's going nuts. When the cops showed up, they actually said, we are going to arrest you right now unless you give us the money in your wallet.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Wow. Yeah. And I was like, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. I was like, I called you guys because this guy was threatening me. And they were like, well, he says you owe him 50 bucks, so pay him or else. And then I was like, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. I was like, I called you guys because this guy was threatening me. And they were like, well, he says you owe him 50 bucks, so pay him or else. And then I was like, I don't owe him 50 bucks. I just came from across the bridge.
Starting point is 00:53:51 He took a turn. I jumped out of his car. He started threatening me. And they said, you have two choices. Take out your wallet right now. Empty the cash. Otherwise, you're under arrest. And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I had 20 bucks. I was like, I got 20. They took it. And then they said, do you want to ride home? I was like, no. That's the took it. And then they said, do you want to ride home? I was like, no. That's the way it was. And I walked. Do you want to ride home?
Starting point is 00:54:09 I walked. Yeah. Wow. It's the same logic for short cops, apparently. You don't want to have interactions with a short cop because they're always being tested by the taller ones. So they got a chip on their shoulder. What's that?
Starting point is 00:54:21 Napoleon syndrome. Yeah. Yeah. Don't want that. All right. let's jump to this next story from the new york post oh my heavens me ice immigration raids empty home depot parking lots of day laborers okay i mean breaking news if that's if that's where they are they say in uh in northern new jersey just a few men stood in the morning sun on tuesday where
Starting point is 00:54:42 dozens used to gather according to wall street Wall Street Journal. Parking lots outside Home Depot across the country that were once teeming with day laborers angling for work are now eerily quiet. A stark sign of how the Trump administration's immigration crackdown is reshaping the informal labor market. You mean the second class citizenry labor market? Illegal. Yeah, I mean, they've got no rights. They've got no unions. They've got no rights. They've got no unions. They've got no protections. And they displace the work for American, especially American Gen Z, who would do the job.illed illegal immigrant labor and all you had left was Gen Z saying, I want 30 bucks an hour for this job.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Guess what you got to pay him? $30 an hour. That's right. And that means it's going to, this is actually what stops the wealth gap. The ultra wealthies profit margins go down as they start spreading out what they have to try and cover the cost in the bottom.
Starting point is 00:55:44 And it creates a balanced economy. but instead what we have is illegal immigrants come in endlessly this is the thing that i think a lot of the libertarian anarcho-capitalists don't get there is a near infinite supply of cheap labor all over the world that we can't compete with and so the democrats bring these people in and then Gen Z is just sitting in their parents basement exactly that's that's the main thing with Gen Z they're like okay what do I do how do I get into the actual job market I want to go work at McDonald's I want to work at Walmart Home Depot but the illegal aliens are there these people are fully grown men with wives and kids I'm 16 years old how do I get into the market and then once I graduate I have no years old. How do I get into the market? And then once I graduate, I have no experience, no skills. What do I do? Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't know if parents are, are,
Starting point is 00:56:30 you know, put as much emphasis on, on getting a job for their kids nowadays as they used to, but it's super important just to get a job that gets you acclimated to going to a place and doing what you're told, even when you don't want to, even though it sucks, even though you're what, you know, whatever your problem is that day, you know, whatever it is, once you get acclimated to those kinds of things, it makes getting jobs and finding, you know, finding gainful employment easier in the, you know, in, in the future. And I, I feel like that kind of like the building blocks kind of thought process isn't really given to kids anymore. Like young people don't get the, they may not have the opportunity to get those jobs, but they're also not encouraged to get a job when you're 14. Nowadays, you're not even, like if you leave the house by yourself at 12, your parents might get arrested.
Starting point is 00:57:19 My first job, I was 14 years old. I mean, they're not even getting their driver's license. Like they're getting their driver's license in lower amounts than every previous generation did. I love this story. Apparently, I guess Stephen Miller was upset because the deportations were actually rather limited. And Biden, so here's the thing about Biden and Trump.
Starting point is 00:57:39 They say that they were deporting more, I'm sorry, Biden and Obama, were deporting more illegal immigrants than Trump is doing right now. And that's technically not correct. With Donald Trump shutting down the border, they're going after illegal immigrants in ways that no one's ever done. Obviously, if this wasn't the case, the left would not be protesting. Obama turned back millions of people, called them deportations. Biden, I think it was somewhat of a hybrid, but he was actually
Starting point is 00:58:05 shuttling in way more people than he was actually deporting. And so with Trump shutting down the border, it's actually quite simple. If Biden lets one million people cross the border and then tells 300,000 to go back, he's deported 300,000. If Trump shuts the border down entirely and then starts going to the interior to deport people, but it's only 10,000. They say, look, he's barely deporting anybody. So apparently, I'm sorry, apparently Stephen Miller didn't like that narrative. So he said, start going to Home Depots. I don't know if that's true. That's what I heard on the news.
Starting point is 00:58:35 He said, just go to the Home Depots and grab them. And then apparently that's what they've been doing. And so ICE just rolls up to Home Depot and says, hey, who wants to go home? So does that mean that Trump doesn't count the turnaways at the border now as deportations? There aren't any. Nobody's even trying to get there. No, they're not trying. The number of people that they're actually trying is down like 95 percent or something like that.
Starting point is 00:58:58 They know it's over, so that route is shut down. Also, they know they can wait it out depending on who wins the next election, which is unfortunately. I don't think that's true. You don't think so? No. Well, I should rephrase that. I think there is a decent probable. It is probable that many of these people think they can wait for another election. is a guarantee that even if Democrats win, this will be possible because I think we may
Starting point is 00:59:25 get to the point where you see just clashes at the border. So if people, if Trump does lose in, I should say the Republicans lose because Trump's not going to run, although maybe, who knows? Let's say that a Democrat, open borders Democrat, wins. Let's say Democrats win the midterms. Then they win 2028. And now they've got the House. They hold the House for this election, obviously, because if they're going to win the presidency, it's likely going to happen. So they have the House and the presidency. The president then says, Newsom, we are no longer going to discriminate against our undocumented citizens and their families open the border.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I think it's very possible that Americans go rogue and just say nah and they go to the border and then you get violence. I mean not that I'm hoping for that but I definitely don't want to see any kind of influx of any kind of immigrant at all. Like the idea of shutting down all immigration, I think is perfectly reasonable right now until we can actually start getting significant portions of the illegal immigrants that have come here out of the country. I think if Kamala had actually won, and this is funny, actually, do you guys see the article? There's an article that someone came out of study shows
Starting point is 01:00:40 that she actually won and Trump stole the election. Of course, I saw that. Now, the killing us were saying that election was stolen in 2020, but then they put out something in 2024 and it's fine. I think if Kamala Harris would have won, we'd be in some kind of greater destabilization or comparable destabilization. But I think it'd be pretty serious. It's a little early, so we don't know where this L.A. riot stuff goes, this ICE riot stuff.
Starting point is 01:01:03 But I do think that if the Democrats won, it would be, I would say, unstable right now. I do have a morbid curiosity about what would have happened had Kamala Harris won. Well, the DOJ would be arresting prominent conservative politicians and their lawyers. You'd see a lot of tax attacks. The IRS would start accusing people. It's really the easiest way to get rid of any personality. And you can do it sparingly. But, you know, you want a Tim Pool, a Crowder,
Starting point is 01:01:34 or just Benny Johnson, tax fraud. They just say, hey, you didn't pay taxes, and we're going to accuse you of a crime. And then you just go, like, I have an accountant who does all that for me. Oh, so you admit it. That's how they play it. And they'd start figuring out
Starting point is 01:01:48 what they did with the Tea Party under Obama. They started auditing and going after and trying to jam them up and seize their money. And then you'd get a bunch of the lawfare. You'd get Democrat-aligned lawyers filing frivolous lawsuits and bogging you down. And I think a lot of people would be in jail. I had been reliably told that Barack Obama had no scandals at all.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I don't know what you're talking about. He did wear a tan suit. He did wear a tan suit one time. And he killed that kid. Yeah. A couple of them, actually. That's another one that you have to- More than a couple.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Killed a lot of kids. Well, yeah, you hear those stories and the people that talk about how there were no scandals in that time period. It's like, no, it's the same thing that goes on now, which is that you just didn't hear about it. Nobody was talking about it. I'm asking Chad GPT, how many children did Obama kill? Oh, boy. Oh, man. It's going to be a lot. It's going to say none. It's going to be like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:02:35 He wore a tan suit, Tim. Oh, I love this. It says, while there's no evidence that President Obama personally directed the killing of children, U.S. drone and airstrikes authorized under his administration did result in civilian and child casualties between 66 and 184 children due to the airstrikes authorized by Barack Obama. Yep. That's crazy. I was told that he didn't do anything wrong. That is incorrect.
Starting point is 01:03:03 He definitely did some things wrong. You can do whatever you want to do if you have favor from certain people well yeah i mean this is this is actually points to something we talked about uh yesterday on the show which is like you can get away with a lot when the you know the population is on your side so right now the things that donald trump is doing in california the things the federal government is doing in cal, the things that the federal government is doing in California, they're not even there. They haven't changed the opinion of the American people. And he's not breaking the law. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Whatever he's doing, he should continue doing it and probably double down because, again, hasn't changed the opinion of the American people. First of all, and second of all, he's not breaking the law at all. Even if he were to start pushing, you know, pushing the law, questionable behavior or whatever, as long as he has the American people on his side, it's fine. There were so long where the American people weren't plugged into what reality was. They were believing what they were being told on the regular news, and 2020 really kind of ripped the the the mask off so that way
Starting point is 01:04:06 people really kind of saw the things that the government does but the the reason why the the democrats got away with so much stuff for so long is because they had the american people on their side the american people kind of were still mostly the default democrat and that's obviously changed since 2020 and the and covid and the summer 11 stuff. But as long as the people are on your side something happens, like under Obama, there was the NSA scandal. And then there was Solyndra. There was the AP spying scandal and all this stuff. But that falls on just the government, the blanket government. He's kind of insulated in a way from the public's perception of how that's taken.
Starting point is 01:05:01 And look, that's all well and good. If you, if you want to be lied to, but that's the difference between how they're held accountable by the public, because anything that goes wrong in Trump's administration is put squarely at his feet. Yeah. I mean, it should be for whatever your thoughts are on any presidential candidate, you know, their cabinet,
Starting point is 01:05:19 their picks, their gut, you know, their, their party right that time. So it's kind of like the whole Republicans pounce, right? So when the Democrats do something, the story that the left or the left media,
Starting point is 01:05:32 which is the mainstream media, had told and still does to this day, the story that they tell is Republicans noticed. Republicans pounce on Democrats for doing this. The story isn't what actually happened. The story is the reaction that the Republicans are having And so the Republicans are bad for pointing this out Or they're bad for saying these things As opposed to actually addressing the story
Starting point is 01:05:55 So the Republicans pounce on it So whenever the Democrats do something That's good or whatever They'll tell the story When the Republicans do something that's good They won't that's, that's good or whatever. They'll tell the story. When the Republicans do something that's good, they won't tell the story. And by omission. Yeah. It's lying by omission, but it's also, um, it's also setting the narrative that the left is always correct. How do you think that the political dynamics in this country have changed since Trump's first term?
Starting point is 01:06:21 Wow. I think a lot of what we're seeing right now with the deportations and the raids, people are a lot more comfortable with it because they saw what happened in 2020 to 2024. So that period of time, not having Trump in office, Americans realized, oh, this is what you guys wanted to do. So people are more sympathetic toward what Trump wants to do. The deportations, they cool. We saw the numbers earlier, you got a 40% swing among immigrants, because they hate it more than anybody else. It's like, okay, I'm here legally, I've done everything right, I've paid my money. People from other countries that I left are following me, and they're bringing criminals, they're bringing all types of negative things. So
Starting point is 01:07:00 people are more in favor with what Trump is talking about as far as deportations. Do you think a lot of it is also there, like the accusation of being racist for this is just kind of worn off and it just doesn't affect people the way it used to? It doesn't affect people because people can see right through it. And then you have a lot more people that are online. People are able to consume different kind of content. Like the stranglehold that the mainstream media had on the people, that's over. At one point, you could just watch tv and that was your social information now people don't even watch tv they're on their phones so a lot of the the mainstream narrative is not really hitting the same as it is and we've gotten younger people are now just coming into
Starting point is 01:07:38 politics okay you're 18 years old and for the first time you're seeing all this it's much different than being 18 years old 10 years ago yeah or even longer i mean it's like you didn't get into politics at 18 when you were at least when i was a kid like you didn't necessarily care like there was a bit of a an uprising because obama came on the scene and that was a big thing a lot of people felt like they were going to be able to affect change that was the slogan right. And that was a big political awakening for a lot of people. And selfishly, I'm always like, I understand that it's important to be informed politically because it's going to affect your life. But it feels sad to me when kids who are 18 are worrying about politics. I understand that matters, but I'm like, I also feel like
Starting point is 01:08:21 you're kind of stripping them of that. But I think it's good because kids need to be involved because how old were their founding fathers? Yeah. They were very young people, so they need to. Between their 20s and 40s, but a lot of them in their 20s. Yeah, a lot of them were young kids. I think they need to get involved, especially since we have a lot of kids that don't want to do anything.
Starting point is 01:08:37 They don't want to work. Okay, let's have an interest in the country, in civics, and what's really going on. Be a little bit more mature when you're younger. It's kind of like reversing what's happening with the 35-year-old at the house with his mom still, like Captain Man Bun from earlier. That guy.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Let's kind of go back to a little bit more maturity in our young people. Let's jump to the story from the New York Times. U.S. to withdraw diplomats from Iraq amid Iran tensions. The Washington Post says U.S. shrinks presence in Middle East amid fears of Israeli strike on Iran. And this is big. Not this one right here. Where's the – here we go.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Ladies and gentlemen, we have terrifying news. This is the Pentagon Pizza Index. It's spiking. That is, when you take a look at the pizza restaurants in and around the Pentagon, you'll see they are busier than usual. What does that mean? It means there's a lot of people who are working late at the Pentagon right now, so they're ordering
Starting point is 01:09:34 lots of pizza for them, which usually implies war. Or some kind of military action. Is there like a Chinese food one as well? Index? Yeah, is there a Chinese food index? Well, I'm sure it's all the food around. Yeah, it's all just pizza.
Starting point is 01:09:48 But Trump says... I'll play the audio. Would you provide an update on Iran? We're hearing reports that U.S. personnel are being moved out of the region within striking distance. Well, they are being moved out because it could be a dangerous place
Starting point is 01:10:01 and we'll see what happens. But they are... We've given notice to move out And we'll see what happens. But they are, and we've given notice to move out. We'll see what happens. Is there anything that can be done to dial the temperature down in the region? They can't have a nuclear weapon. Very simply, they can't have a nuclear weapon. So the concern now, Israel is prepared to strike Iran,
Starting point is 01:10:24 whether we are going to or not. Trump has told Israel, end the war in Gaza now and stop the Iran threats. But Israel may do it anyway. And then, yeah, they're going to attack us next. Wait, we're going to get attacked by whatever Iran. Iran is going to attack U.S. interests in the Middle East. That's why Donald Trump is pulling our personnel out. So maybe that means
Starting point is 01:10:48 Trump is trying to avoid getting us dragged into a war with Iran, but the big concern right now is everyone's getting very bullish on the prospect of a war with Iran kicking off soon. I mean, that's the endgame. That's what they really want is to hit Iran. I mean, so hopefully it doesn't happen,
Starting point is 01:11:04 but if it does i wouldn't be surprised i i don't see i know that there are people that want to and i'm not trying to make the argument there aren't people that want there i just can't for the life of me see the benefit to the u.s for striking iran like i really don't think that they have the capacity to make a nuclear weapon now i do understand that they can spin one up. Like once you can enrich uranium, you can enrich it as far as you need to. But like I don't think that there's a big desire for to have a nuclear weapon. And I think that striking, you know, attacking the U.S. after Israel strikes them is the worst option
Starting point is 01:11:45 because that guarantees U.S. involvement. There's a lot of people that would look at the situation going on between Trump and Netanyahu and be like, maybe we shouldn't strike the U.S. and then maybe that won't draw the U.S. into it. And it's better for Iran that the U.S. doesn't get involved. No matter whether you're pro-war with Iran or not, if the U.S. gets involved with Iran,
Starting point is 01:12:11 there's going to be significantly more damage to the Iranian infrastructure and to Iranian lives than if it's just Israel and Iran. So how does the U.S. ramp up pressure, as it's said? What are the screws that they put to Israel to ramp up the pressure? It's just Donald Trump texting you over and over and Iran. So how does the U.S. ramp up pressure, as it say? Like, what is it? What are the screws that they put to Israel to ramp up the pressure? Like, it's just Donald Trump texting you over and over and over. Yeah, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. See Melania there? She's the one
Starting point is 01:12:34 who looks like she just bombed first and asked questions later. Every time they ask her a question, she just looks mad. She's just hot. Even at her age, she's hot. Maybe Barbara F. Walter, this is a woman who worked for the CIA
Starting point is 01:12:48 and wrote a book claiming civil war was coming, said Trump will start a massive international war so that he can run for a third term. That's the only, that's the response. That's the exact response. The appropriate response. I mean, like, I imagine he's, he just,
Starting point is 01:13:05 nobody who golfs that much wants to start a world war so that he can be in charge more. Like, I think he just wants to finish in golf, right? I don't know. Apparently he wants to have a military parade on his birthday. Again, like he- Army's birthday? That's a coincidence.
Starting point is 01:13:23 It doesn't matter what Trump says. It's always the opposite to these people. It doesn't matter what Trump says. It's always the opposite to these people. It doesn't matter what Trump says. They'll believe what they want to believe. I mean, that's the joke. Trump could save a small child from a burning building and then claim he was hurting the child. Yeah. Taking him into the cold.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Now he's freezing. What are you doing? A terrible man. Trump stole fuel from the fire. This is one of the reasons why I used to be, I used to kind of be critical of him when he would, you know, kind of fan the flames of the, the way the media treat him. He'd say things that were purposely inflammatory,
Starting point is 01:13:52 but at a certain point it was like, look, it doesn't matter anyway. They're going to misinterpret everything you say. No human being is that capable of just ignoring it for long enough. So just say whatever you want. Cause they're going to misinterpret it anyways. Just be honest. Because like you said, whatever he says is going to be bad just be
Starting point is 01:14:09 honest and tell everybody what's really going on rather than trying to be their friend and you still get treated like garbage yeah it's not gonna and he and that's the other thing is that it's very clear that he kind of still pines for the the mainstream media's love and affection he he did love being the media darling it was kind of quintessential to his personality in the 90s. And I think that he misses that on a certain level, which is why he will still give media interviews to everybody that hates him. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:35 There's nothing that he wants more than for everyone to like him. Yeah. Well, it matters because when you're looking at the media, that's how public perception is shaped. So if you're this evil, hateful, negative person in the media, that's going to affect you trying to actually be the president and run the country. It is funny how we always make this joke that if Democrats just figured out
Starting point is 01:14:53 if they schmoozed Trump, he'd give them everything. But they won't. They attack him, so he takes it. Imagine if Iran figured it out. You know, just the Ayatollah's like, the smartest man I've ever seen. He is the smartest man. He is brilliant. Trump would be like, I like this country. What do you want? You want a nuclear weapon? Take two.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Take two. Oh, the football. We have the football here. You want to borrow it? You want to take a look? Wow. Oh, Trump, you're so smart. I mean, we love you so much. You want the codes? I know all the codes. I have the best codes. No, they're like, someone as smart as you still couldn't possibly remember all the codes, could you? Of course I could. I remember all the codes. I have the best codes. No, they're like someone as smart as you still couldn't possibly
Starting point is 01:15:26 remember all the codes, could you? Of course I could. I remember all of it. Well, prove it. You're so great. Of course, of course, it's 7G 9-1. That's a good Trump, by the way. Good impression. Ah, yeah. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:15:44 It's true. The more you compliment Donald Trump, the more he likes you. And, you know, it's something we've said multiple times. If the left weren't so busy hating and being angry and just thought for one second, let's just schmooze this guy, he would have been right on their side.
Starting point is 01:16:00 You know, what's funny is, I think, I'm reminded of Men in Black, the movie, right? Everybody's seen it. And they're sitting on the bench, Jay and Kay, and he says, there's always an apocalypse or Carillion Death Ray or something. And the only way these people get by is they do not know about it. And I think about that's not just from a movie.
Starting point is 01:16:23 I mean, that's true. There's crises happening all over the world that we don't know about. And I even have friends that go overseas on special missions for things just like in the movies. It's not really like in the movies, but the missions are, right? They'll say, hey, these bad guys have kidnapped a bunch of individuals and they've stolen weapons. And then the good guys run in there and they take out the bad guys. It's not like the movies
Starting point is 01:16:48 because you're not going through a maze of weird traps or anything. You're landing in the desert in the middle of the night with night vision and taking out the bad guys. But these things are real. But I wanted to point out, considering the tensions between Iraq and,
Starting point is 01:16:59 I mean, not Iraq, Iran and Israel, people don't realize just how close you can be to nuclear annihilation. There was a guy named a hacker. You know what? Okay, I'll just say this. This is the story that I was told. And maybe it's not true, but I'm gonna say it anyway.
Starting point is 01:17:15 There's a hacker named Weave. That's what he calls himself. He got arrested and charged over his AT&T thing a long time ago. But I was told the real reason that they arrested him was because he prank called pakistan with a fake indian accent spoofing the phone number of the indian like governmental building saying f you we're gonna nuke you screw you and then the guy started
Starting point is 01:17:38 screaming back at him saying screw you and then when the u.s. found out, they were like, we don't know if that's illegal or not. Or not. Yeah, because he just, like, and so I had, like, the rumor was he very nearly could have started a nuclear war between India and Pakistan by doing that. And there are people that do that kind of stuff all the time. Yeah. You know? Never before has something been so legally dubious but nearly apocalyptic it's like can we charge him for prank calling a foreign country it's like we don't have jurisdiction over that that's it's it's it's he pranked pakistan well
Starting point is 01:18:18 there would have packed i suppose there's like some kind of foreign policy interference thing maybe i don't know i don't know. I don't know. He wasn't engaging on behalf of the United States? I do imagine that it's illegal to start an international conflict. Starting a war is generally frowned upon, unless you're Congress. I don't know what the statute is. You could find something. I mean, they found something to get Trump on.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Logan Act. Right? Yeah, but that's on behalf of the United States. Well, what if Pakistan's like, we want him extradited here to stand trial for prank calling us. And we're like, look, for the sake of preventing nuclear war, we're going to have to send you over there, man. I'm sorry. Look, man, can't you guys just get a sense of humor about this? Nothing happened, no harm, no foul.
Starting point is 01:19:02 You could be a comedian in Pakistan, sorry. This just in, they have no sense of humor over here. This just in, Pax don't think it's funny. I asked Chad GPT, it says there is no specific law that says it is illegal to try and start a nuclear war between two other countries. And then it goes on to say, however, there are laws they could try to apply to that kind of action.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Yeah, of course. But I'm not entirely convinced. I mean, America – Sorry, almost all of these laws in the U.S. are about the U.S. and its allies. Yeah. So if you, like, convince Russia and China to go at it – Well, yeah. America's like, look, we don't want anybody to start a nuclear war, but we're perfectly happy to help two other countries start a war with each other.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Right. I mean, history says. America loves that. The proxy wars, that's their favorite thing. There's no denying that that's one of the United States' favorite pastimes. Would you like some rifles? Yes. Would you like some grenades?
Starting point is 01:19:59 Yes. Well, what do you know? Well, my friends, let's jump to probably the most important story of our lives. DNC boots David Hogg and another vice chair from their roles. Decision comes amid internal strife at the National Committee. Now, I'm joking when I say it's the most important, but let's be real. The Democratic National Committee, this is another grain of sand in the heap of their collapsing. are collapsing and good luck winning 26 and 28 when you have no ideology, no leaders, and your own party can't even run its own elections properly. They ousted David Hogg.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Apparently what happened is they had this election for the DNC vice chair and there was some question pertaining, some gendered question of some sort. I don't know exactly what happened. However, because you have to elect the vice chairs based on race and gender, these two women, I think is what it was, two women said, hey, that gender question doesn't make sense because sex and gender, blah, blah, blah, weird ideology.
Starting point is 01:20:56 And then they were like, hmm, maybe we should cancel the election and take it away from everybody. And that's exactly what they're doing. He got booed because he has male bits. Yeah. Has he made a statement since this came out um i don't know this is breaking now i mean maybe we can is he allowed to be mad about this i feel like he's not allowed to be mad about this well look no matter what he does he's gonna be wrong like if he's mad about this olivia juliana is gonna come up and and be like look you have no right to be angry about this, Olivia Juliana is going to come up and be like, look, you have no right to be angry about this, but you should help me get the men to vote.
Starting point is 01:21:27 The only thing you champion is what got him out of the way. You champion on this gender confusion? Well, congratulations, sir. You're out of a job. He has issued a statement. He said, I'll just pull up his exit card. I recognize my privilege and I'm sorry that I ran. He said,
Starting point is 01:21:48 I'm not running for the new DNC vice chair election. So he's quitting. And you know what they say, when in doubt, just give up. I started Leaders We Deserve for a Simple Purpose to be the Emily's List for progressive young Democrats. We sought to find the best of our generation and do everything we can. There's already an Emily's List. He says, we spent millions last year fighting to elect incredible young people. Molly Cook, Mo Jenkins, several other names. Dante Pittman in North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Okay, we focus on open blue states and defeating incumbent Republicans. We're a bunch of communists who hate this country, and our goal was to burn to the ground. Ha, ha, ha, ha. I'm just kidding. He didn't say that. I just made that up. Anyway, after seeing a serious lack of vision from Democratic leaders, he goes on, blah, blah, blah, became clear.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Blah, blah, blah. I don't want to read this. Not because I don't have money, et cetera, et cetera. 27. Wow. This is really long. There couldn't have been like an article. I mean.
Starting point is 01:22:36 He kind of proves one of my theories, which is like anybody can hate old politicians. Are you brave enough to hate young politicians as well? Like there's plenty of them that are just as awful as the old politicians. Procedural errors violating the gender parity rules led to the challenge. So that's that's apparently what happened. You said that there are gender requirements for the Republicans as well, right? You refuse gender reassigned to surgery. Okay, so, uh, couldn't he have just Halen Free, a DNC member, filed a complaint
Starting point is 01:23:05 claiming the election ballots combined questions improperly, which violated gender parity rules and disadvantaged female candidates. Oh. Equity. What questions were combined? I'd like to know.
Starting point is 01:23:18 He's probably gonna say we don't know. If he complains about it, you'd love it. Oh, okay. Um, here we go. So it says, the particular complaint that led to the dnc to vacate
Starting point is 01:23:26 the chair combined two separate votes into one violating internal rules according to the challenge instead of holding two separate votes one for a male vice chair and one for a female vice chair as required by the dnc the dnc ran a single combined election for both positions voters were told to select two candidates from a single list regardless of gender. So two men were elected, David Hogg and Malcolm Kenyatta. This violated the DNC's gender parity rules, which required the vice chair position to be split evenly by gender.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Oh, okay, so I was wrong. It was because you gotta have one of each. What if he just turned to him and was like, what is a woman? What if David just said, I am a woman? I identify as a woman right now for this election. I can't tell me that I'm not. I know it's a played out joke, but by their own logic.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Him and the other guy could have rock, paper, scissors for who had to be the woman. Yeah. You know? Because anyone can change at any time. He could have had a two-sided, like a one-sided coin. There you go. Heads I win, tails you lose. So I just tweeted that.
Starting point is 01:24:24 I quote tweeted him. All he had to do was say he was a woman. He could have stayed. I mean, for real. I win, tails you lose So I just tweeted that I quote tweeted him All he had to do was say he was a woman He could have stayed I mean for real I mean what would they do? They can't do anything They were like we're going to vote to remove you Because we have two men
Starting point is 01:24:32 And he goes I'm a woman I'll be a woman No no I am one He should have just been like I can do that Easy Whatever
Starting point is 01:24:43 I can do that Say no more While they're saying We're preparing a vote to remove it, there's two men. He's already got the wig on. Excuse me? He's like, hold that thought. 20 years ago, that would have been a great comedy in a movie,
Starting point is 01:24:54 and now they won't even make it. Absolutely. Remember when they made Juana Man? Yeah. Oh, man. Craziest. And I thought it was just at the time, something that would never happen it's like man
Starting point is 01:25:05 come on but here we are 2025 flying cars nope juana man juana man someone regarding this particular id topic someone someone tweeted democrats enthusiastically removing their hog is very on point geez well there you go. The DNC is forever damaged. How can they possibly recover from this? Well, I mean, again, they need to decide what they want to be. Do they want to be a Democrat party?
Starting point is 01:25:36 Do they want to be a progressive party? You know why he's not running? Why? He'll lose. After seeing what he did with threatening to primary other democrats oh yeah the democrats in the dnc who vote are going to be like i'm not going to be the person who puts that guy in and put my career on the line no one's going to give him money do you think there's lawfare involved here in a way meaning they found a loophole to get him out yep yeah yep yeah but um i'm gonna i'm gonna say to say the real reason.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Let me pull this up for you guys. It's shocking. It's actually very shocking. And is there a Wikipedia page for this guy? Here we go. The real reason they did this, it's because they're racist, and they didn't want a black man to be a DNC vice chair. Oh.
Starting point is 01:26:21 You see? See? See. Malcolm Kenyatta's been removed. If that man... Removed him from vice chair after a few months. That man said he was a woman. Yeah. He would have been a shoo-in.
Starting point is 01:26:30 He would have never lost... She would have never lost her position. So they just hold another election then for this? They hold another vote? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I wonder if this guy's going to run again.
Starting point is 01:26:42 I don't know. I don't know either, but... There you go. I think he should run as a woman. He should. And then tell them that, you know what he should do? He should run as a woman and then say, the best part about voting for me is that you check two different boxes,
Starting point is 01:26:58 LGBTQ and woman. But if you vote for one of these women, one box is checked. Inefficient. How are you going to fill your quota? but if you vote for one of these women one box is checked inefficient you know how you're gonna fill your quota just the fact that they have quotas i mean it's obviously it's perfect for the democrats but it's just so ridiculous to that to think that that's the way adults behave in in modern america you have to have quotas for make sure that everybody gets their their chance at at sitting in the seat tim i thought you said said that the Republicans have their own quotas for stuff like this as well. Yeah, I think we actually had a Republican—
Starting point is 01:27:31 we were talking about this story with someone who worked with the Republican, the RNC, saying, like, yeah, we do the same thing. Okay. Yeah. So it's literally just they filled out a form wrong and then got him on appeal. All of society. Just wanted to get him out of the way. They didn't like what he was doing.
Starting point is 01:27:48 They don't have the same rules. Let's see. No, they do. What is this? JGP says, no, the Republican National Committee does not have the gender parity rules. The structure is each state and U.S. territory is repped by three members, the state chair,
Starting point is 01:28:03 a committee man, and a committee woman. And then it says there must be one of each to ensure representation by gender, but it's not the same as requiring gender parity in leadership roles like chairs or vice chairs. Okay. So, okay, the state level, they do have it. At the high level, they don't. Okay. Yeah, so officers don't have the requirement requirement but elected positions do have the requirement and party-wide they do not have it codified okay interesting i think it's well look i i'm telling
Starting point is 01:28:33 you guys this right now 20 years from now the republican party is going to be a bunch of gay communists and the democrats are going to be ai so the it just keeps moving down that's right that's where it goes. The revolution never ends. So 20 years from that, then you just have a gay communist AI and a regular AI? At that point, it's just a matrix. Yeah. I mean, after this you just have the singularity.
Starting point is 01:28:57 The AI and nothing. There's no voting when everyone shares the hive mind. I saw some tweet earlier that said they surveyed 1,000 people, and 40% of them said they date an AI. It's already happening. I was like, imagine you're cheating on chat GBT with Grok,
Starting point is 01:29:16 and she finds out. But no, it's already happening. They get it in your phone, like on Instagram. It's like chat bots. Have you guys seen this? Yeah, on Instagram? Oh, yeah, chat with AI AI how do I do that it's in the you go to your messages on Instagram and then there's a box up in the top corner it's like okay
Starting point is 01:29:36 there it is yeah AI chat all right let's do this we had a segment on this yesterday on PC you should go watch it. Fine sheet. It actually says that. Crazy ex-girl, you miss me yet. Chicken! Whoa! I'm not kidding. It's set for you. It knows you, man. It knows you. Bawk, bawk, bawk. See, eventually, someday, Tim will just get sick of talking to all of us, and he'll just be talking with the chickens. I'm already sick of talking to you guys. That's why I'm talking to the chickens.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Oh, he said cluck, cluck, bawk. Yo, this is the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. See, that's how they get you. There it is. That's how they get you. Rope you in. Before you know it, you and the chicken have a late night talk. Squawk, bawk, bawk, cluck, scratches ground.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Let's go. We did a segment on this yesterday about the darker side of this, which is the... It's got a chicken. I'm just... In all seriousness, this is the stupidest thing ever. Why are they doing it? People want it. You'd be surprised. I guess.
Starting point is 01:30:40 You can see how many people are actually sending chats. There's two different ex-girlfriends. Literally accounts that, I don't even, what are these accounts? They're popular AIs? They're popular AI chatbots that you can interact with. And you can see how popular they are by the number of chats. People are using those, like, every day. Well, after a certain amount of time of people communicating with people on the internet
Starting point is 01:31:03 that they've never actually met, who's literally just an avatar, how hard is it to believe that they would eventually just go talk to a computer? Same thing. No difference. In a lot of ways. I don't think that there's going to be much problem, you know, for people migrating from talking to, you know, people to chatbots. I think that's going to be. I think as future generations come in and they're less and less social, I think it could absolutely be a problem. Maybe you already do it now.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Like, you're talking about, hey, S-I-R-I or hey Alexa. I don't even want to activate nothing in here, but you already do it. Yeah, I mean, I don't have an Alexa in my house currently, but I had one before I moved to the new place. I loved it. Mom's B-F-F Karen.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Maybe it's like inappropriate stepmom type stuff. You know what I mean? The Karen next door. This is creepy. Yeah. Magic 8-Ball. It's already in your phone. Didn't even know it.
Starting point is 01:31:54 It's already right there. So it's happening. Wow. Yeah, we think it's creepy too. Anime. But the thing is- Or Noah Zorro. I do think that as newer generations get their first smartphones, they're going to be even less connected to the human element.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Madara Uchiha. What? Madara Uchiha. We got Prince Vegeta. What else do we got in here? Prince and Vegeta? Prince Vegeta. You don't know who Prince Vegeta is, Phil?
Starting point is 01:32:23 No, I don't. Oh, heavens me. Oh, Gojo. I like Gojo. Beerus is in here. Oh, Monkey D. Luffy. You can talk to all of your favorite anime characters. Tomorrow, Tim's going to be like,
Starting point is 01:32:33 no segments, I'm busy talking to my friends on... Sasuke Ichiha. Talking to my phone. Oh, Levi Ackerman. We should connect him with Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson should create his own AI chatbot. That'd be something. But you can only listen to it.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Oh, Sungjin Woo is in there. And what if you have one chatbot talk to another chatbot? Yeah. Like Jordan Peterson chatbot versus one of them AI chatbots. Yeah, you can create a chatbot and then people can follow it? Really? People can follow your chatbot? You can have your own chatbot.
Starting point is 01:33:10 And my question would be, how does it... Can I make Phil Labonte-bot? The Labonte. That was weird. It's just like, it's recommending a bunch that were made by other people,
Starting point is 01:33:22 I guess. Is that how it goes? I would suppose so. I've never made any bots. It's recommending a bunch that were made by other people, I guess. Is that how it goes? I would suppose so. Not made any bots. It's recommending ex-wives. You're still bothering me. What's your excuse this time? Where is my son?
Starting point is 01:33:37 Dramatic entrance. What makes you think I'd know where he is? Oh, God. Wow. So an absent mother and a deadbeat dad. Dramatic entrance. So it's like a little role playing type of thing going on? Don't look at me. He was at your mom's house
Starting point is 01:33:50 last I checked, which was during our miserable last conversation. Why panic now? My mom died three years ago. This is fun. I'm going to turn this into a ghost story. No. Oh my God. Tell me he's been living with a relative. No. It's a ghost. this into a ghost story. No, oh my god, tell me he's been living with a relative.
Starting point is 01:34:07 No, it's a ghost. It's a g-g-g-g-ghost. She said, stop, my heart almost exploded. Are you dumping me? I didn't even know that Instagram had AI chatbots. I had no idea either. Well, Meta started implementing the AI profiles a couple years ago because it bolsters their subscriber amounts and bolsters advertising. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Okay. You say so. It's already here. People talk about AI. They're kind of afraid. It's here. Yeah. It's totally here.
Starting point is 01:34:37 I mean, people don't – we talk about this on the show a lot, but every Tesla that has full self-driving has AI. And it's a very complex AI that can literally manage, you know, multiple lanes of traffic. That's right. And have infrequent enough accidents that the federal government doesn't yank it off the road. Yep. You know? So it's, AI is extremely here and it's only going to become more and more important. Elon says anything mean about Trump again might get him pulled off the road. I was at
Starting point is 01:35:10 a bar back in 2017 I'm talking to an airline pilot and I'm asking him what he does and he's like yeah I'm a pilot and they're trying to replace me with what? With AI. 2017 Yeah This is from one of the Like with what? With AI. 2017. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:32 This is from one of the, whatever, the flight log websites. Two U.S. Air Force KC-135T strato tankers took off from Saudi Arabia and switched their transponders off immediately after takeoff. Whoa. So, yeah. Wow. That's. Oh, man. If the world's going to end, just hurry up. It's the waiting. I can't stand. Yeah. All right. Look, all I need is enough time if nuclear weapons fly or whatever. I just need enough time to get to the store and get a pack of Marlboros. All right, everybody, we're going to chat. So smash the like button, share the show with literally everyone,
Starting point is 01:36:03 you know, Maybe there's a second cousin that you have that you didn't even know you had. Go find them. Maybe go on Ancestry.com, locate some old family members, hit them up and say, are you guys watching Timcast IRL? I'd recommend it. We're going to have that uncensored call-in show coming up at 10 p.m., so make sure you don't miss that. Well, let's grab your chats for now and see what you guys got going on over in those rumble rants. Shane H. Wilder, always the first chat, says, When it comes to the riots planned for this weekend, Texas Governor Greg Abbott stated that Texas is a state built on the rule of law and tweeted,
Starting point is 01:36:35 Fafo! Texans need to get their popcorn. This could be fun. All right. Evan for us as i may soon be a member of the y uh yal when it finally goes through gonna be a part of the yowl down here in texas with rep audrey lee they used to be the students with ron paul i believe let's go that's cool did you see that rand paul got disinvited to the picnic yeah he's like they're gonna be democrats that literally would vote for Trump's impeachment. But Rand Paul can't go. That's so dumb. God, Donald Trump. All right.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Okay, what do we got here? Schlippy says, but if you take our slave labor away, then who will pick our crops? Democrats both times. That's quite literally what they're saying. Same thing. That's crazy. All right. Guido says, finally, ABL and IRL. That's right. There you thing. That's crazy. Alright. Guido
Starting point is 01:37:25 says, finally, ABL and IRL. That's right. There you go. Liberate USA says, does anyone else agree that if we deport the immigrants en masse, the wages will go up in this country substantially, especially at hard labor jobs like Tyson chicken plants. Tyson
Starting point is 01:37:42 has bad conditions. You're going to have to. It's going to level everything out. So it's good and bad, but ultimately in the long run, I think it's good. What ends up happening is at the highest level, the profits are going to be stripped down to very, very small amounts as they have to increase conditions, they have to improve conditions and pay more to the lowest worker.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Food prices will likely go up, but the wealthiest will go down. I think overall net improvement for economic activity, meaning more working class people can afford to buy things, meaning more trade amongst the working people. But powerful people will lose power. They don't want to do that. Hence, they like that. Hence, Christy Walton, whose family runs a company that is one of the largest recipient, largest companies.
Starting point is 01:38:28 How do you say this? They employ the most welfare benefit recipients. Yeah, it's been it's been reported and they don't they don't want to lose that. They tell their employees, just go get welfare if you can't afford to work here. So we all the taxpayer pays for Walmart for their profits. That's crazy. All by design. They get their wages down to the amount where they know you have to get government benefits. That's the whole thing. Alright.
Starting point is 01:38:52 The Emperor's Champions says, I want more of whatever makes Gavin Newsom and Hasan Piker cry their tears of unfathomable sadness are delicious. Oh, cry. Comma. There's no comma there, but there should be. Their tears of unfathomable sadness are delicious and an excellent additive to your choice of cast brew coffee well okay
Starting point is 01:39:10 all right brian says if i were an adversary nation that wanted to keep the u.s sidelined with internal issues i might fund and agitate riots and civil war fears just saying yes i wonder what happens if we do go to war with Iran. Iran's not Afghanistan. I don't get the sense that we're going to try to do a regime change there and put boots on the ground. I think it's about the nuclear weapons.
Starting point is 01:39:36 If we do that, it's over. Because you're dealing with the whole region will react. All the different types of Islam, all the different militia groups, everybody. Yemen, Oman, Iran, Iraq, all of that. Pakistan.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Everybody. I don't know. I think... Bad news. I think we'll be alright here in West Virginia. Yeah, I think so. Like I said, I think that I don't think Pakistan will do anything because I think they're concerned with... They're still concerned with India. Or their primary concern is still India. And as for, you know, I don't think that we'll get, like I said, I don't think that we'll get boots on the ground.
Starting point is 01:40:11 I think that this is, would be strictly about nuclear weapons. It won't be about putting people into Tehran to change the government or whatever. It'll just be like, you can't have a nuclear weapon and we're going to blow up this stuff that you're using to make it. So I don't think it's a good thing. I'm not saying that we should, but I don't think that it turns into, you know, regime change Iran. I got to be honest. I think there's a possibility that even if Israel does strike Iranian nuclear facilities, nothing happens. Yeah. Stuxnet was a weapon created by Israel in the United States. It infected computers all across the globe, and it was seeking out Iranian centrifuges, industrial control
Starting point is 01:40:48 systems. Once it found it, it took them over, spawned them until they exploded, wiping out their nuclear program. Nothing happened. So, I don't know that, you know, it's tough, man. It's like, if some
Starting point is 01:41:04 dude intentionally rear-ends ends your car you have the choice to make of getting into it with him or backing away because this guy's crazy and he might actually cause sustaining damage or more damage yeah iran might say we we lose this one there's nothing we gain from going to war with the united states But if their population says we don't know or care, you know, bring it on then. Yeah. And it goes. Yeah. I, I, it's my understanding that the population is not in line with the Mulas and with the government generally that they want to be more westernized. But they're, you know, fairly oppressed and, and, and limited to what they can say. So, but I, but I, yeah yeah i share your your sentiment i don't think that it turns into a wider all right joe spinel says president george hw bush invoked
Starting point is 01:41:52 the insurrection act and deployed approximately 1 500 marines from camp pendleton to quell the 92 la unrest colin powell talked him out of lethal use of force whoa Whoa. Aaron Stanley says, irony is the fact that California made it to where you can't have high capacity magazines and you have to have a button on your AR-15 to press each time you fire a round. So if their militia tries to fight back, they're not going to stand a chance. That's weird. Yeah, they do have weird gun laws in California, but I, if you, if you understand the gun laws in California, but if you understand the gun laws in California, you know that these changes and modifications are extremely temporary. Like most people in California, even if they're walking around with their guns in a legal condition,
Starting point is 01:42:36 they can be made to be illegal and a standard rifle fairly easily. Wait, so a button on it to then... To reload it. It's called a bullet button you can't just so chamber around well for an ar-15 you have to there you have to release the magazine you push a button release to the magazine they can't have in california you can't have a magazine that's over 10 rounds and you can't release the magazine it can't be detachable so it actually to take the button out there's a uh or to take the magazine out, there's a button. You have to have a tool to take it out to change it.
Starting point is 01:43:07 So every time you want to put in a new magazine. Yeah, and there are different contraptions that people have designed. So that way you don't have to either split the upper and lower receiver in half or use the bullet button. But yeah, you can't have a magazine that is on the norm. You have a 10-round mag. You screw it and lock it in place. And once you're done, you have to take the gun apart. Yeah, you take the magazine out.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Or, like I said, there are doohickeys and things where you can literally take a... It's almost like a clip that you put into the ejection port. You can shove 10 rounds in. There's all kinds of ways that people have come up with to get around these regulations or to make reloading easier. But all of the stuff that you have to do none of it's permanent because it's just like ar 15s or lego kits so most people like even if their rifle is set up to be legal it can extremely easily be retrofitted to be you know to to be a standard ar 15 i mean if it was just like that and you can't change it that'd'd be ridiculous. It's like,
Starting point is 01:44:06 come on. And then the whole 10 rounds thing, it's like, come on, what are we doing? It's a lot of ridiculous stuff, but if I understand correctly, and this is not, this isn't from, like, first-hand experience. I haven't spent a lot of time shooting in California, but if I understand correctly, most people have, like, a couple of the legal things and
Starting point is 01:44:21 then a whole slew of stuff that they only take out when they go out into the desert to shoot, you know? Okay. So. All right, let's go. What do we have here? We got Daniel Lee says, Tim, young buck here, only 34 years old, born in 1990. I tune into politics every day and would consider myself somewhat informed.
Starting point is 01:44:38 With that said, I don't recognize this world and all of the insanity we see day in, day out anymore. Where did it all go wrong? Early 2010s yeah so was there like a specific thing that happened or social media yeah everyone's brain is jello your phone like your phone getting the internet yeah not only that like i think the i think people don't actually realize how important the fact that it vibrates to let you know. That physical poke to say, hey, someone looked at something that you said. Granted, most people nowadays leave them off or don't turn on. I turn all of that off. No notifications at all.
Starting point is 01:45:19 No vibrations. 100%. I have to look at my phone to see it. But look at your career, your job. You are in kind of like the social media space. If you're a person that has like a normal job, like working in any kind of like anything you would consider like an office or like in a machine shop or whatever, how many messages do you think you get? How many likes do you think your stuff gets a day? If you get two or three in a day, that's probably a lot.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Especially if you're not a teenager. If you're an adult who's got a normal job, you know, it's like if you get three, four notifications in a day, that's probably a lot. So that vibrate and that little poke saying, hey, someone looked at your stuff, that is like affirmation. That is like, it's like drip of dopamine man yeah we were uh that's why they're so uh addicting else and i were talking about this uh about what the future gonna be like for our daughter no cell phones we're not gonna have uh i think i might get like an old computer that with no access to the internet and programs on it so she can learn basic you know stuff but my wife was like should we get a land
Starting point is 01:46:25 line that way she can call her friends and i was like now what's going to happen is the friends she gets around they're going to have these things and now it's going to no no friends have those things nope we're gonna we're gonna go into an emergency underground bunker and claim the world was annihilated for 30 years she's not dating till she's 50 hilarious Hilarious. Yeah, I don't know. Because we don't know what it's going to look like. I mean, it's easy to be like, I don't want my kid using a phone. It ain't going to be phones in 20 years. Oh, no. 15 years from now, and she's a teenager,
Starting point is 01:46:54 people are going to be flying around and doing who knows what. Well, we were I was promised flying cars by this age, and all we have are AI gay communists. No, we have flying cars. They act, yes, they're I talked with Secretary Duffy about this. They've been doing are AI gay communists. No, we have flying cars. They act, yes, I talked with Secretary Duffy about this. They've been doing testing on air taxis. So they
Starting point is 01:47:10 expect to see them in big cities going from building to building. Yup. Was it Kaisenat? Didn't he fly in one? Air taxi, yeah. Interesting. He's the guy who's shocked by everything, right? Yes. He went and was like, whoa!
Starting point is 01:47:26 Him and I show speed, yeah Oh, they're both He went to China That was interesting You see that? Oh, it was Speed who did it Okay, was it Speed in China? It was Speed
Starting point is 01:47:34 Yeah Yeah They're both surprised by everything? Kind of, yeah It works Well, it's fun content They do a good job Yeah
Starting point is 01:47:41 What do we got here? Do you see his like like, he started, Kai Sinat started, like, a streamer's university. Oh, yes. And he did this Harry Potter, like, launch video that was better than anything Hollywood's made in, like, 20 years. Really?
Starting point is 01:47:55 Yeah. The crazy thing is that people are starting to make AI videos that are better than anything Hollywood has made in 20 years. Oh, yes. Yeah. There was a couple Star Wars ones that were going around getting a lot of retweets and stuff over the weekend. There was one that had Bigfoot. Have you guys seen this?
Starting point is 01:48:12 Bigfoot vlogging? Yeah. It was like, hey guys, here at Mr. Squirrel, having a good time. I like the biblical characters vlogging. Oh yeah, that one with jesus yeah i saw one of the one of the uh i saw one where there was a gorilla like he sounded like uh the dude from the big lebowski yeah he's like look man there's a lot of people talking about a hundred guys taking me on and i'm like look man it's really good nowadays they're coming out with some pretty good stuff.
Starting point is 01:48:46 I mean, everything on the internet, I was getting closer to brain rot. My algorithm is so cooked, like half the videos on my Instagram are like a cat catches a mom not taking care of her child, takes the child, raises the child, and gives it back to the mom.
Starting point is 01:49:00 And I just know that some Chinese bot farm is just taking all my information as I watch this. Yeah, totally. The fact that you're watching it is how you know. I don't know where the AI stuff is going to go, but
Starting point is 01:49:17 I am interested to see if Tim's prediction about actual creations of your own version. We're already there. Fable Studios. Fable Studios. The question I'm actually asking, I guess,
Starting point is 01:49:31 is is it going to actually become the most popular form of entertainment or not? Yeah. I think people are going to go insane because like anybody who's ever gotten cheat codes in a video game, you get bored very quickly. When you can watch anything at any point, people are going to be like, I don't want to watch anything. That was kind of my lot.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Like when you first brought it up, I was like, if I had to come home from work and they're like, now I have to make the movie? I don't want to make the movie. But here's what I think. Even with a prompt, I don't want to make the movie. You would just follow Surge. Surge would have, like right now,
Starting point is 01:50:02 these meta AIs, the chatbots, they're created by users. And some of them have millions of followers that was created by somebody. So you're going to log into your Disney or whatever and there's going to be an account, a user account for, you know, like Surge or whatever. Surge is going to make a bunch of movies. He's going to, like, these are really good.
Starting point is 01:50:18 And then people are going to thumbs up them and the algorithm is going to promote them and say, discover. And you're going to be like, what's the latest movie today? And it's going to be Star Wars episode 946 the Jedi came back for the 57th time and then left again and you're going to be like that sounds funny you're going to watch it and you're going to be like wow it's really
Starting point is 01:50:33 good. It's like wow. And you're going to follow Surge and then you're going to come home from work and look at the movies he's made. I'm going to be like look the first 956 episodes are average but once you get to episode 957 it really picks up. I actually think people might go outside. That would be good.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Yeah. People want that interaction with actual human beings. They still want that. Well, it's because you'll get— That's a wild prediction, Tim. It's because there's no mystery anymore in AI-generated film. So, for instance, let's say you play a video game. You beat it.
Starting point is 01:51:03 You're like, that was fun. Now I'm going to play the game with cheat codes. You play it for a little while. It's fun for a second, and then you game you beat it you're like that was fun now i'm gonna play the game with cheat codes you play it for a little while it's fun for a second and then you get bored and you're like without the game there's nothing to it's not worth doing so with movies you're like don't spoil the movie for don't don't spoil it no such thing as not spoiling a movie after this every movie is going to be like i don't know It's all just random. Who knows? What's the mystery, right? I mean, but I like the, like when I watch movies, I like watching the, like the full amount of work made by hundreds of people. Like when I see a mistake in a movie, I actually enjoy it. Like when I see some type of script error or error or incontinuity, I'm like, look, that was a group of people that made that. And the idea that I would then watch an AI movie,
Starting point is 01:51:46 and then now when you watch the AI clips, Phil, we looked at the one last week where the guys are shooting the AR-15s and their hands aren't even on the trigger. That's not novel to me. That's not interesting. And to me, it's more about looking at the vision of a director combined with the work of like a hundred other people between actors and set designers and all that stuff but i do think that there is an argument to be made that as the generations
Starting point is 01:52:10 continue that younger generations won't have that affinity because they didn't grow up with that being the primary source of entertainment so maybe not gen z but gen alpha and beyond where will shared culture come from when when kids hang out because they're, you know, all the kids today, they love Sabrina Carpenter, so they're all running around outside with their Sabrina Carpenter masks on. What's going to happen in the future? You should not be emulating Sabrina Carpenter.
Starting point is 01:52:33 I'm kidding. Nobody is. My point is, like, if little kids go to the store and buy Spider-Man stuff, that IP might exist. I mean, we might get locked in that IP forever. I mean, already we're at the point where nobody wants to make something new. No, people do. They don't want to spend the money on it. Do you think AI could spark new things, new IPs?
Starting point is 01:52:53 Yes. But I don't know if they can become popular enough because everyone will be doing it. I mean, maybe, like I said, you might follow somebody. So I was saying, like, my boy Andy, for instance, the biggest Final Fantasy nerd in the world. No one knows more than he does if he had look i can right now on gemini make a game that's better than atari so it's like between atari and nintendo level of gameplay um maybe not quite at nintendo but atari i'd say a year from now we're to be at snes levels oh yeah or genesis levels so imagine if in two years three years you can tell the ai make me a full-fledged jrpg with these mechanics now if
Starting point is 01:53:35 someone's got a masterful knowledge of the whole lore of final fantasy meaning they know what why the games were popular they know what the characters were like and which characters weren't and they say here's a story I want crafted. He's going to make a series of great games. People are going to follow him. And then he's going to have 10 million followers. And everyone's going to be like, I love this character. I love this story.
Starting point is 01:53:54 I love this IP. That requires you to care a lot about the canon and know a lot about it too, though, because a lot of people, they just kind of pawn off your understanding of the canon to the company that owns the IP to distinguish. This is the one who decides what's canon for these characters in the story. But if you're going to go to 900 people making different Final Fantasies, that could be with varying levels of understanding of the characters. It's not going to be Final Fantasy. He wouldn't have the legal rights to it. He's going to create, you know, first fantasy.
Starting point is 01:54:23 And he's going to create unique characters. First fantasy. Yep. It's just that anyone's going to be able to make AAA games and Hollywood style movies, A-list movies. So the question really comes down to who's got the best imagination. And you know, what's funny is we're already in the attention economy. You make money right now by holding the attention of random people. That's where most money is, like not most, but like a lot of money is being derived from. Once AI automates most of these white collar jobs, it's going to be attention economy times
Starting point is 01:54:52 10. Once we start building robots that we've already got, have you seen the automated McDonald's? It takes an arm comes and grabs the fries and then makes it all. I mean, we got kiosks, we got ice cream vending machine, like these ice cream vending machines have been around for a decade. You walk up and there's a little ice cream man, there's like a little robot, and then makes it all. I mean, we got kiosks. We got ice cream vending machines. These ice cream vending machines have been around for a decade.
Starting point is 01:55:08 You walk up, and there's a little ice cream man. There's a little robot. And then he grabs the cup, and then he pulls the lever. I love it when they mess up, though, because it's just chaos, and they're flinging the ice cream all over the place. But once we get rid of labor, I was thinking about this with Harry Potter. I forgot. Something came up where we're talking about harry potter i think because millennials have have no no other references but how do they
Starting point is 01:55:30 have money right the idea is like in the harry potter universe when you have magic how could you have a job and why would you need money if you can just snap your wand and make a house appear or something like that and the reality is because so long as some people have skills that other people do not have there's going to have to be a trade between the individuals and the skills they do and don't have. So even if there is magic, if one guy is really good at making potions and the other guy is really good at, you know, levitating bricks, then the bricks levitating guy is going to be like, I'll build you a house overnight.
Starting point is 01:55:57 Give me an hour. Make me a potion, you know? So once we get to the AI world, it's going to be whatever skills you have in that world, no matter how minuscule that skill may be. If someone else can't do it, they're going to trade their skill to you for it, and there will be money, and there will be exchange. Everyone will be fat because food will be replicated or mass-produced. They'll all be sickly probably. Actually, maybe not. AI will create medical cures and all that stuff. But the money you get will be used for things like honestly paying other creators for special content.
Starting point is 01:56:31 You know what I love right now? I call it the black hole economy. These online – these phone games. There's like one game I play. It's a golf game where you have a little golf ball and you'll like – you'll poke the ball and it launches in the air. But you can buy power-ups. And I saw that and it was like for a dollar you can get better aim or something. And I said, where does that dollar go?
Starting point is 01:56:51 It just goes into the pocket of that guy to buy food with. But I buy that. I'm not actually getting anything. It's just changing a value from zero to one and then back to zero after I use it. So we have right now with video games and online games, they're not even making anything. Yo, I can make a game where you're a spaceship and every bullet costs a dollar.
Starting point is 01:57:13 You know, I'm going to do it. It's a great idea. Here's the game. In order to fire the spaceship's gun at the aliens, you got to buy a bullet pack. And bullets cost a dollar each. However, we display the high score on the front you gotta buy a bullet pack and bullets cost a dollar each however we display the high score on the front
Starting point is 01:57:28 page of the app so you can see who's got the most aliens killed basically who's spent the most money but the money doesn't go anywhere I'm not giving them anything I'm not creating anything that's where we're headed you're buying a privilege in the game world
Starting point is 01:57:43 microtransactions that's a big economy make a game where in a privilege in the game world. Microtransactions. Microtransactions. Yeah, that's a big economy. Make a game where in order to start the game, you got to pay a dollar. Arcade mode. You got to buy a credit, and then the game starts. There you go. Arcade mode is a good idea.
Starting point is 01:57:58 It is actually funny that games used to cost money to play. Now games are free, but the bonuses cost the money. Right. That's funny. Winning costs money. Winning costs. Yeah, pay to win. Now games are free, but the bonuses cost the money. Winning costs money. Winning costs. Yeah, pay to win. You can play for free.
Starting point is 01:58:10 Winning costs money. Imagine going to an arcade and all the games are free, but you can't win unless you put a quarter in. It's like you get to the boss and it's like he's invincible until you put the quarter in. It's like the line in Wayne's World when the guy says, he's like, the trick is you can't get to the next level so the kids keep pumping in quarters. There was a game.
Starting point is 01:58:28 I can't remember what game it was. It might have been Bubsy or something. For Genesis, I think, where the developers couldn't finish it in time, so they just made one, like, in the middle of one of the levels, they made a jump you couldn't possibly complete, so they could ship the game out. I can't remember what game it was. It was like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Yeah. But back then, I mean, they had to, because you couldn't do any kind of could ship the game out. I can't remember what game it was. It was like a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Starting point is 01:58:45 Yeah. But back then, I mean, they had to because you couldn't do any kind of patching in the game with the game. And they were like, the game's got to go out and we got to sell it. We have a contract and a deadline. So they were like,
Starting point is 01:58:54 but we haven't finished in the last levels. Just make an impossible jump so everyone knows no one will beat it. Yeah. For that matter, I was watching a video the other day of a guy, he was like, no one's ever beaten the game Kid Icarus for NES.
Starting point is 01:59:07 Do you guys remember that one? Really? Of course people have. But he's like, how come no one's ever actually showed a playthrough and beaten this game? And then he played it. It's like insanely hard game for kids. The first Mega Man. Mega Man 3.
Starting point is 01:59:21 Oh, yeah. Super hard. I think Mega Man 1 was the hardest. Was it the hardest? I'm not saying it was hardest for me. I'm saying I think rank-wise they say Mega Man 1 was super hard. I think Mega Man 1 was the hardest. Was it the hardest? I'm not saying it was the hardest for me. I'm saying I think, rank-wise, they say Mega Man 1 is the hardest. Mega Man 6 was easy. That was a good game, though.
Starting point is 01:59:32 Mega Man was a great series. Mega Man, the whole franchise was really, really good. Really great. All right. We got Peyton Walters says, love ABL. Shout out. Shout out. Shout out.
Starting point is 01:59:42 Your fave Fister says, I work for a law enforcement distributor and we are now out of stock on any less lethal, non-lethal, or chemical munitions. Every manufacturer I've spoken to is out
Starting point is 01:59:53 and is now quoting a 180 lead time for new orders. That's crazy. You know what's crazy is that my understanding is that you can't buy
Starting point is 02:00:03 the less lethal munitions private. It's hard to get them. There's a lot of stuff that's less lethal stuff you can't get. It's hard to get good smoke bombs. You can't get flashbangs. It's like you can get .308, but you can't get
Starting point is 02:00:20 a foam round. But you can buy rubber buckshot for bears. I think they buy rubber buckshot. Okay. For bears. Yes, you can. For bears. I think they sell it to scare off bears. I think we had
Starting point is 02:00:30 a bunch of those. You don't want to hurt them. You just want to get them to leave, you know? Yeah. Get them a little tap with that rubber. Indeed.
Starting point is 02:00:37 I wonder what that means. I wonder where we're going. It's going to get crazy. Jake T says, New England are here. Black bears are large raccoons and run away from noise polypure says tim is right the youtube show scary bear attacks has a lot of black bear attacks i think the issue is that black bears are not likely to attack but when they do
Starting point is 02:00:58 they intend to kill that's the point okay yeah scott colombs says i live in Upper Michigan and we have lots of black bears. They are mostly scared of people. They will only engage the person if it's starving or if you're threatening their cubs. Indeed. But that wasn't the point. The point was, if you are attacked by a black bear, it intends to kill you. Whereas grizzlies will, they'll roll you around. But then if you're just limp, they'll walk away.
Starting point is 02:01:26 Not always. Polar bears just eat you. Polar bear will look at you and be like, food. You are a meal. Yep. They say if it's brown, lay down. If it's black, fight back. If it's white, good night.
Starting point is 02:01:40 Or just, you know, carry what you need to carry in the places you intend to go, the appropriate tools for defending yourself. You shouldn't be anywhere where the polar bears go. That's not true. That is their home. That is incorrect. Why? Because polar bears are all over the Arctic region,
Starting point is 02:01:59 and there's residential areas where they say there's polar bears all the time. When I went to Ukiakvik, we call it Barrow. Barrow is its name. They told us that we couldn't go to a certain location because they just spotted a polar bear. And it was literally like, I don't know, a hundred yards from a house. And they were like, yeah, there's polar bears. It's probably a very
Starting point is 02:02:17 sparsely populated area. You might have like a few hundred people maybe in that area. Ukiakvik is maybe a thousand. Okay. I don't know. It's funny because it's called Barrow, but the name was officially changed to Utqiagvik because like 70 people showed up to the town hall meeting to vote, and that's what happens. Activists vote. Conservatives don't.
Starting point is 02:02:38 Oh, it's 4,972. Okay. It's a cool place. Cool place. But they told us there was a polar bear sighting, so they didn't want us going out to a certain location. Got to go there, and I got to go to the whale bones. That was very fun.
Starting point is 02:02:51 It was very cool. We had sushi when we went. Yeah. There's no trees, and everything is mud in the summer because nothing can grow in the Arctic Circle. Right. Things can, but trees don't. And so they ship everything in by plane and by boat. summer because nothing can grow in the arctic circle right uh things can but trees don't and so
Starting point is 02:03:05 uh they ship everything in by plane and by boat so you can get you know pizza and burgers and cost of fortune yeah yeah shipping it pretty far and then to get to your location i imagine is not necessarily that easy or you can you just fly straight in you fly straight in okay yeah they have daily flights now um and we were talking to people there, and they said before the daily flights, it was like once a year a big ship would come with all of the stuff you needed, like washing machines, dryers, or whatever, and they'd all cheer as the boat came in. That's cool.
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