Timcast IRL - TRUMP WON, Canada & Mexico CAVE Over Tariffs, Elon NUKES Deep State w/Terry Schilling

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Mary are joined by Terry Schilling to discuss Mexico & Canada caving after Trump's tariff threat, Elon Musk & Trump nuking the USAID program, Alicia Keys says DEI is a gift, and FBI agent...s revolting against Trump as he begins draining the swamp. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Mary @PopCultureCrisis (YouTube) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Terry Schilling @Schilling1776 (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Donald Trump is doing what people are referring to as, I guess, he's overwhelming the system. He is implementing so many rapid fire changes that Democrat activists cannot keep up. And it is brilliant. It has been an amazing past two weeks. Donald Trump has done a tremendous job. And just today, Canada and Mexico have caved instantly. Donald Trump said, you know what, 25 percent tariffs, 10 percent tariffs on China. What can they do? Trump was asked, what can they do to stop this? Nothing. Sure enough, before anything kicks in, both the president of Mexico and Justin Trudeau called up and said, please, for the love of all that is holy, do not destroy our countries, our economies.
Starting point is 00:00:40 And they caved and they're going to help secure the borders. Exactly what Trump was saying needed to be done. And that just shows that Trump's been playing this whole time. Now, a lot of people have been saying the tariffs were good because we need to restore American manufacturing and industry. And that's true, too. But hey, two things can be true at the same time. And this was a win win situation for Donald Trump. Either they agree to secure the border or. We bring back American industry And that's what we have to do because these countries are not playing fair. Then we got holy crap, probably what may be one of the biggest stories of our lifetime. This is the OK, Marco Rubio wants to reform USAID, but Trump and
Starting point is 00:01:19 Elon are saying they should shut it down. USAID is a very, very interesting organization that has long been accused of effectively being a CIA front to funnel resources to activist organizations to stage soft and hard coups around the world. Among other things, they're also accused of funneling money to activist organizations, which then kick back money to the United States, which then finds its way in the hands of other politicians, which are used to get them reelected. It's very, very weird. And the files that we get out of USAID when the information gets released, assuming it does, and I don't see why
Starting point is 00:01:49 it wouldn't, it's going to be massive. So my friends, we have a lot of news to break down. There's a ton of stuff. FBI threatening to protest, to leak information. Elon saying you'll be fired. People saying, you know, got Chuck Schumer saying it's a shadow government. It's funny. Democrats were calling for a shadow government just before the election. And now they're mad that Elon's doing it. Well, it's not really. Elon's acting as essentially a volunteer advising the president. There's nothing you can do about it. We got a lot more news. But before we do, my friends, head over to Casperoo.com. Holy crap. Ian sold out again. Ian sold out of Graphene Dream. This dude, it's nuts. This is the highest selling product we have, and it's sold out.
Starting point is 00:02:25 I have no idea why. It must be the best coffee ever. But we do have, we got Phil. Two weeks till Christmas. Although we're now a month and a half from Christmas. Still, if you want to get Phil dressed like a Santa Claus, it's available. Gingerbread Coffee and everybody's favorite Appalachian Nights and Rise with Roberto Jr. are available. Of course, my friends, head over to timcast.com.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Click join us. Become a member. The Green Room Show is back. And I would describe Mary and Terry's Green Room before the show got started as spicy. Very interesting. Discussing surrogacy, pregnancy, porn, OnlyFans, and degeneracy and debauchery. And it's probably good it's uncensored and in the members-only portion. But that's available.
Starting point is 00:03:10 That should be up on the website very soon. But we're bringing back the Green Room show. We're going to be working on documentaries. And, of course, we're going to have our members-only uncensored show coming up just after this show at 10 p.m. You don't want to miss it. And, as always, head over to boonieshq.com. And, you know, I'm going to go ahead and recommend the 28th Amendment skateboard. Now, I know this one's largely for fans of chickens. If you're not
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Starting point is 00:03:53 And unfortunately, I want to give a shout out to Dr. Saranli in D.C. who did a bang-up job, masterfully done, painless, 20 minutes, easy. And in all seriousness, I was actually pretty good. So that was Friday. Saturday, I was fine. Sunday, I was fine. And I was like, I think I'm gonna be good to go. Monday, this was it was it was really well done. I had a reaction to the lidocaine, which no one could have predicted. And that basically took me out for a week. So but they did a bang up job over at the Dr. Ceronley. She was really, really great. She was amazing. And I really appreciate that the the help she gave i told her i gave a shout out because i'm not kidding i've been to a lot of dentists and she was really great so thank you so much uh joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more we got terry schilling hey guys thanks so much for having me uh i was
Starting point is 00:04:38 telling part of the conversation we had earlier was uh about surrogacy because i have seven kids so anyway i'm excited to be here some of my kids are watching tonight so but that doesn't mean i'm gonna be filtered i i'm friendly i am who i am regardless of if my children are present so thanks so much for having me right on mary's hanging out yes my name is mary morgan i co-host pop culture crisis here at timcast and i guess all you need to know about me is that I'm just a girl and I don't have any political opinions. You can go watch The Green Room to find that out.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Hi, Phil. She's lying. Hi, I'm Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it. The biggest news, of course, for everybody who's already noticed, I'm wearing a wedding ring.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Check it. That's it. Congrats. Thank you very much. So we had, Allison and I had planned the wedding for some time, for a while, but we're just super busy. You know, she does administrative work. She's out today. I do the show, morning show, night show.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And so we're just working all the time. But we knew, you know, we had to go and do it. So we did a courthouse wedding. It was very nice. But we're planning to do a big family ceremony in the summer. This was just because we wanted to be married. And we went and got married. And then I tweeted, Trump's first month was the best month of my life, which was an inside joke to literally just me and my wife.
Starting point is 00:05:59 And I showed her and we both just started laughing. And then everyone – it got like 5,000 retweets from people who were like, it has been great, hasn't it? And then some liberal was like, or I don't know if it was a liberal, but they were like, what has Trump even done that you're so excited about?
Starting point is 00:06:12 And I was like, no, no, no, I got married. I never said Trump did anything. Like his first month was the best month for me. You know what I mean? You put those together. So there you go, everybody. And I will not be wearing the ring. So thank you all so much.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Leave your comments and super chats if you want to shout out and give me. I see everybody congratulating me and everything. I really do appreciate it. Or just say nothing and call me stupid. You know, I don't want to. But let's jump into this. So here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:06:35 From NBC, Trump and leaders of Canada and Mexico say tariffs will be delayed one month after talks. Guys, I love Donald Trump. He has exceeded all of my expectations. This is absolutely incredible. When he announced the tariffs, I started clapping and cheering because I can't stand that we have given away so many of our jobs and our industries to Canada and Mexico to the point where it was like 80% of their exports are coming to us. Okay, well, what about our jobs and the people who work here who need to have a job, teach their kids how to have jobs, do hard work? We're not going to become a gluttonous, lazy partying. Oh, wait, because we're giving away all our jobs to these other countries.
Starting point is 00:07:14 But it's win win because it was going to go one of two ways. They were going to beg Donald Trump for whatever, whatever he could they could possibly give him so that he would lift these because this will destroy the economies of Canada and Mexico. And then Trump said, OK, I want troops on the border. So Canada, I think they're gonna be doing like a border, a fentanyl czar of some sort. They're going to be enforcing border protections. Mexico is sending additional 10,000 troops to the border. And there's been other um concessions so donald trump just waves the pen and instantly can in mexico are like okay okay we'll take this problem that you're having seriously now masterfully done as a whole bunch of other stuff to get into of course with like
Starting point is 00:07:56 elon musk doge and usa id but we'll start here man how you guys doing you know the people have been like wigging out about the the whole situation with canada and with with mexico as if this wasn't the big ask as if this wasn't a negotiation it was just like oh donald trump's gonna put these tariffs on and they're gonna be there forever and they're gonna be there until the whole country falls apart and until everything you know burns up they're acting as as as if this wasn't intended on getting a deal out of both canada and mexico that's donald trump's mo and we had four years of him as a president already doing things like this but yet the left is in such disarray now they they they refuse to look at reality i guess i mean they've been they were harping on eggs for for like the first week and a half of his presidency there they've lost any semblance of direction and i i don't have it
Starting point is 00:09:00 in front of me but there was a i think it was a Wall Street Journal article about how totally in disarray the Democrats are. And so it's almost as if it's worth nothing to listen to anything they say just because they have no idea what to say. All they're saying is whatever. They're back to the whatever Donald Trump decides he's going to do. We're against it. He could be. It's it's it's as bad as Donald Trump. Donald Trump says drink water is good so we're gonna you know try to drink sand they can't they can't give him one good day oh god no no no and it because it's not about that it's always about power with the dems they don't really care he could actually save the economy and and you know give everyone a horse everyone could make
Starting point is 00:09:39 a million dollars and there would be prosperous and they'd still find something to attack him on they call him a racist and the thing is that that's really been killing me is they're losing and they're not changing their strategy right this what donald trump just taught the american people by the way was that america has leverage over all these other nations we don't need to be the punching bag we don't have to accept things the way they are we have 3 325 million Americans that buy products from everywhere else in the world. Let's leverage that. I saw a video this morning. 40% of the Canadian economy is based on their exports to the United States.
Starting point is 00:10:15 That is huge leverage, right? And I didn't realize that. And I'm looking back and I'm thinking, Trudeau was running his mouth for way too damn long. So much tough talk, right? Oh, my gosh. My favorite thing about tariffs is that no one gets to vote on them. I hate voting. I hate voting.
Starting point is 00:10:35 I hate democracy. You know, the Democrats' unfavorable now is 57% with the most recent Quinnipiac University poll. I don't know that there's anything that they can do to fix this until they get their own house in order. We might talk about it later, but there was the Congress. There was the they voted on who was going to run the DNC and they were doing things like land acknowledgments. They were doing all of they were doing things like let them let them cook, bro, talking about talking about pronouns and stuff things that that clearly regardless i know i know there are people out there that are gonna say well
Starting point is 00:11:09 donald trump won on the economy and he won on illegal immigration i think that's true largely but i think the thing that turns the average person off about the democrats right the things that they're just like i don't like that stuff is the whole woke stuff the whole you know uh trans stuff the lgbt stuff the fact that you have to hate America, which whether they want to admit it or not, when they're doing things like land acknowledgement, you're saying that you're ashamed of the country that you're in. No society in human history has ever given credit to the society that came before them that they essentially conquered. Oh, you're talking about like mud, flood, and nocturne, right? essentially conquered. Oh, you're talking about like mud flood in Tartaria, right? I'm not sure what you're talking about. The indigenous people, they have land acknowledgement to the Tartaria.
Starting point is 00:11:52 You don't know about mud flood theory? No. There's no mud flood? No. There's a conspiracy theory that there was a great civilization that ran Earth or whatever, and then there was a great mud flood, and it buried all the buildings. People actually believe this. And they think that we're discovering these old buildings and pulling them out of the dirt and living in them
Starting point is 00:12:08 yeah anyway so i made a joke tweet about how we're going to conquer canada because i saw all of these canadians really angry on x and so i tweeted something like after we destroy the canadian economy they will their their will to resist will erode, and we will march in and put Canada in its rightful place as a, what did I call it, as a territory of the United States with no political representation. I got so many death threats from that.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Is that why the one thing you love? From Canadians? But they're supposed to be so nice. What kind of Canadians? So we got a bunch of death threats, and then I posted one of the threats that was the most egregious, and it got like 2 million hits or whatever. And the guy said he was, among other things,
Starting point is 00:12:54 I'm not going to, it's very vulgar, he was going to do horrible things to my family and sell them to rabbit Indians. And rabbit. Huh? Yes, like rabbits. Does he mean like what kind of Indian? I don't Yes. Like rabbits. Does he mean like what kind of Indian? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Rabbit kind. And so people started posting pictures of rabbits wearing headdresses. And then rabbit Indian started trending on X. Grok was busy making pictures of rabbits with Indian headdresses or rabbits in India, like India from the country. This is the thing. We've talked quite a bit how Democrats don't understand humor. That's why the onion sucks now.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I'm like, Canadians are just like Democrats. They genuinely thought my tweet about us conquering Canada through legit. They think it's real and they're angry about it. Like to the point where I was, we're getting a bunch of death threats from these people and like we have to
Starting point is 00:13:50 take it seriously. Yeah, you have to, you have, cause they're all unhinged. The type of person that's that unhinged that would send a death threat is exactly the type of person that would go crazy and do stuff like that. Look,
Starting point is 00:14:00 it's a bad idea to make death threats. It's a bad idea to do that kind of stuff on the internet.com like you know who you are they can find you and that's forever yeah so they're losing right now right oh yeah well they're losing their mind we're all like in a really good mood right i'm in a good mood i'm in a great mood you know what you know what really bugs me is i i uh i tweeted the the the what I say, like the era of the extraction of America is finally over. No country that can only, or whatever, I phrased it, but any country that requires U.S. subsidy in order to survive shouldn't. And this means any and every country.
Starting point is 00:14:41 The idea that you said, what, 40% of their economy is based off exports to the United States, that ain't our problem. If they want to be a vassal state, okay, and they want to be subservient and then live off our good graces, fine. But the idea that we would, for Canada and Mexico, forego our own manufacturing base, not necessarily manufacturing, but any industry. I know there's some things Canada does we can't. They got tar sands. I know Mexico makes avocados. We don't make nearly as many. That's fine. I don't think 40% of the Mexican economy is avocados. What happens is we send our auto plants to Mexico and say, you do the work and we'll buy the car from you. That only works for like 20 years. You get fat profits, but then the next generation has no jobs. So they make no money and there's no
Starting point is 00:15:24 economic access and then your country implodes. So it's time to put a stop to this. Now, I like what Trump did. The tariffs are going to be paused for a month because he's basically saying, we'll see if you follow through. Well, but the real reason why he's doing this is not economic. It's because with Trudeau's lax immigration policies and his virtue signaling, what's been happening is Canada is actually the bigger threat to the United States when it comes to unsecured border.
Starting point is 00:15:49 In that video I saw this morning, they said that there were 150 encounters and arrests of terrorists at the southern border. But there were over 350 of these arrests at the northern border with Canada. And that's because Trudeau is out there signaling, saying he's not going to do anything to stop this illegal immigration. So the guys that really want to attack America, they've been going through Canada to get to the United States because it's actually less treacherous and they're more welcome there. Yep. Well, it's time to put a stop to it. I mean, look, anything that needs to be done or the government, the federal government and ICE and Homeland Security
Starting point is 00:16:23 should go to any lengths to stop illegal immigration coming into the United States. It doesn't matter if they're coming from Mexico or if they're coming from Canada. If we have to build a frost wall along the northern border, that's fine with me, too. We can have the hot wall and the cold wall. I'm fine with it. It's perfectly fine to build walls. I don't care. Especially if these other countries, our
Starting point is 00:16:47 neighbors, are facilitating or allowing for foreign nationals to come into the United States without putting, you know, legitimate effort into preventing them from coming here when these people are intending to do damage to
Starting point is 00:17:04 our country and hurt American citizens. You're saying we need a Castle Black. I have. What's a Castle Black? Game of Thrones. I guess. The fort where they had the big wall on the north of ice to get the White Walkers out.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Yes. Give me a frost wall to keep the frostbacks out. Is it offensive to call Canadians White Walkers? I don't know. Never heard that one before. Never heard. Yeah. Probably. We should say. Everything's offensive. So let's just say? I don't know. Never heard that one before. Yeah. Probably.
Starting point is 00:17:26 They come from a land of cold. Everything's offensive, so let's just say you're undoing it. Let's just call them white walkers. Everything is offensive, especially to people that are upset about the whole situation with immigration. If they're upset about the immigration situation, anything you say to them is going to set them off. You can say, we want you to stay in Canada and they're going to call you all kinds of names. Isn't it funny that Democrats are all basically admitting
Starting point is 00:17:49 that they illegally hire illegal immigrants? They're like, but if you deport these people, then who's going to pick your crops and clean your toilets? And it's just like, Americans. Americans. Next question. Well, it's a red herring. They don't pick our crops.
Starting point is 00:18:03 It's like literally 90% of all the illegals that are here are in major cities they're not out there farming they're not making sure our crops don't go bad they're in major cities taking jobs for americans but i have an answer to that when they say like if you deport all these people who's going to pick our crops i'm like well there's a bunch of fbi agents here's attorneys and dbi coaches who are looking for work that's right so you So, you know, job openings available. Yeah. But it's all just, it's BS. But I just think it's funny that Democrats are like basically saying,
Starting point is 00:18:32 we do this. But Tim, the more important thing, though, that I'm seeing and that I'm loving is there is this IDGAF mentality amongst everyone in the White House. They don't care what the media says to them steven miller just awesome last week he lectured jake tapper uh online you know it's these guys don't care they were beaten up and bruised and here's the other thing trump and his entire team had four years to look back at their first term, what went wrong, what went right, and to really plot and plan.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Meanwhile, they were trying to destroy this entire apparatus that they built. It's beautiful. Not a lot of two-term presidents get four years to look back at their first term and assess what they did right and wrong. And that's why I think we're seeing such a big change. Literally only one other. That's right. That's right. What do you think that he got wrong the first time?
Starting point is 00:19:25 I think he thought it was going to be a traditional American presidency where there's the play fighting. But at the end of the day, you're going to get an infrastructure bill done. You're going to, yeah, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, they're going to fight you like they fought George W. Bush. But it's not serious. They're not actually going to try and put you in prison. They're not actually going to try and kill you and do all this stuff. But they were serious. This was about power for them.
Starting point is 00:19:49 He thought that they were going to treat him as a member of the club because he got elected. So the way that the government behaves is there are certain people that are acceptable to be president, and then there are people that are not. I think every single person that's been a president has either been in has been in government somehow before or they were a general i don't think there's been anyone else that was that came directly from from corporate america from the business background and so they essentially treated him as if he was not a
Starting point is 00:20:24 member of the club and they treated him like that from day one, actually before, because they were never going to let him in. The goal was to keep him out. And you could see that with the FBI, with people like Peter Stroke. We're saying, don't worry, we're going to prevent this from happening. We won't let it happen. I forget the woman that he was having an affair with that he was texting, but they were the FBI had aligned against him. You had everyone in basically in government was working against him. So his his biggest mistake was believing that they were going to allow him in and believing that hiring people that were that were clearly, for lack of a better word, you know, swamp monsters, you know, for lack of a better word. Those people would listen to him as opposed to work against him. And then the four years that he was kind of off in the, in the wilderness, that's where he really had the ability to look back on his presidency,
Starting point is 00:21:33 see what they were doing. Obviously he had to deal with what they were doing. They were trying to, you know, they impeached him after he'd left office, which is unprecedented. Twice. They impeached him after he left office.
Starting point is 00:21:44 They tried to use lawfare on him they tried to throw him in jail they created felonies out of misdemeanors they said oh these were felonious actions when there was no underlying crime to actually elevate them to felonies so he saw what the deep state and what the bureaucracy what the government itself wanted to do to him and he was like okay well how do i stop this if i win again or when i win again and he obviously knew that if he didn't win again he was going to go to jail and there's a lot of other people that would end up in jail too i honestly truly believe that people like tim people like and other other pundits and other
Starting point is 00:22:20 people that are involved in the in the political space they would either go to they would either end up in jail or they would be run out of the business yeah they would have nixoned and resigned yeah right and i think trump to his credit he learned from the nixon uh yeah yeah coup uh let's call it that because that's essentially what it was but he learned from that he didn't back away and he stuck with and he fought him even more you know violently than he did before yeah i just want to say before we move on the next story to all of our canadian viewers i know that most of you don't like your own government and don't agree with the way they're running things
Starting point is 00:22:54 and you want canada first too and i respect that so hopefully the future we get to is a stronger canada for canadians with a government that the people actually need and support and the united states has much of the same thing but let's jump to this next story from CNN. Elon Musk said Donald Trump agreed USAID needs to be shut down. This may be one of the biggest stories, if it happens, of our generation. Now, the latest update from the Wall Street Journal, Marco Rubio wants USAID to undergo overhaul, backs off of full shutdown. Secretary of State plans to reorganize the foreign assistance agency that Elon Musk and Doge are pushing to eliminate. USAID, it's not USAID. There's no aid. Shout out to Mike Benz. It's the U.S. Agency for International Development. And what they basically do is they funnel money to various activist organizations around the world. That's literally what they do.
Starting point is 00:23:49 The accusation, I believe RFK Jr. talked about this, was that USAID was funding revolutionary groups in Ukraine to overthrow the government in the Maidan protests, culminating in the ousting of, I believe it was Viktor Yanukovych. Was his name Viktor? Maybe it was, I don't know, Yanukovych was the president's name. Was it? It was Viktor? Okay, there you go. So basically, the accusations, USAID is basically a CIA front for U.S. soft coups around the world.
Starting point is 00:24:18 A lot of this money, this is crazy. Here's the accusation. U.S. government funds USAID. That money goes to various NGOs and activist groups around the world. Those various NGOs give money to various other organizations, which somehow that money finds its way into the election campaigns of politicians. This may be the system by which the deep state keeps its cronies in office indefinitely because you can't go up against them. They're basically getting money from the government. They're taking your money and
Starting point is 00:24:48 they're paying themselves to run again. How do you compete with that? If they get shut down, it's going to be massive. Either way, if information comes out from Doge, from Elon Musk and his crew about what they've been doing and we uncover serious malfeasance i think it's a strong possibility this could be this could be massive like one of the biggest scandals in u.s history yeah well you know james o'keefe did this whole expo series of exos a's uh going up to for act blue he would go up to these old ladies houses and ask them about if they had ever contributed you know 75 000 in 16 16,000 donation increments. And they were finding out that ActBlue was acting as like a money laundering scheme for the Democrats. And I think this is probably part of it.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I mean, this old lady, like one of them only made like – or she's on retirement income. So it's like just Social Security. You can't pay – you can't do 75 000 in a year right definitely make i mean anyone to make 16 000 donations in a year is like you're really working hard just making donations itself uh but this is all front i mean it's there's got to be a connection here you know for i i just want to i want to shout out uh look we need to get cash uh confirmed we need uh we had. We need, have they confirmed? Who have they confirmed? I'm going to look right now.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Obviously, like Hegseth and stuff, but I mean of the remaining, they're delaying it. James O'Keefe went to these people's homes, as you mentioned. One of these old people, he's like,
Starting point is 00:26:18 did you make $200,000 in donations to Act Blue? And they're like, what? I don't have that kind of money. And he's like, are you making 47 donations of $5, 47 donations per day of $5 to $20? And they're like, no. Someone, some entity, is using ActBlue, it appears, to funnel money through people's names that they've stolen into politicians and PACs and other people's hands. This needs to be criminally investigated.
Starting point is 00:26:46 The ponderance of evidence is in front of our faces. Yeah. So for a little context, USAID was created in the 60s by Kennedy, JFK. By executive order. Yeah, by executive order. Now, there was a bill passed, right? So the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 was passed by Congress, which authorized the establishment of a new agency.
Starting point is 00:27:05 But that isn't actually USAID. USAID is essentially a front for, like we said, for CIA. And there was a time where it was important to have USAID. And that was, you know, when communism was a threat right there was a time where the domino theory was legitimate the idea that more and more countries were going to fall to common communism that the the influence of the soviet union uh was something that threatened the whole world um and so that was that was when usaid existed to help to influence other countries to prevent them from becoming communist by providing them with funding providing providing
Starting point is 00:27:45 them with help for with infrastructure and also there was you know the the covert actions with the which cia would do which is trying to uh topple other governments but it is it was important but after the after the fall of the soviet union 1991 organizations like usaid and and and the like they don't have the same goal anymore. There is no communism. There is not global communism in the way that it was when the Soviet Union existed. There's no effort of global communism. Now the effort for global communism comes from the UN.
Starting point is 00:28:19 It comes from the NGOs that the US is actually involved with. It's not the same kind of communism. It probably would look something more like Chinese communism, where you've got markets and market communism or whatever. But it's still a top-down authoritarian government. And USAID doesn't need to do the same kind of things. And so if it's actually just turned into a money laundering operation, get rid of it. It's not something that's necessary the way that it used to be.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And, you know, Doge is showing that it's... What does it ultimately mean, though? Let's say that the U.S. stops engaging in these international soft coup manipulations. You guys ever hear that story? I think it's called Confessions of an Economic Hitman. I haven't seen that book, right? Yeah, yeah. This guy, it was a while ago, he was saying that the U.S. strategy was basically, first, they go to you and they say, okay, we're going to give you a bunch of money if you do what we want you to do. If the leader says no, they say, okay, well, then we're going to manipulate your system and we're going to throw you out of power. If that fails, then they send in the wetworks. They go in and remove that person. And the examples they give is like Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein. Assuming that's true, if USAID is
Starting point is 00:29:31 dismantled to a great degree and the U.S. stops engaging in this, what does the world look like? I mean, I don't know. I'm pretty pro-America. So like, I do think that in the absence of the United States being the global hegemon and having the influence that it does, you end up with something like China, you know, someone like China or possibly Russia. have the most slaves currently russia is like number five or six right it's a it's it's a train wreck and and china's not a whole lot better so as much as like the u.s has problems and there's there are you know there is is human trafficking and stuff that's not something that that the united states openly is is okay with and there are other countries where that that is still okay the u.s is is the best country in the world still even though we have our own problems by i'm not trying to say that the u.s is perfect and that we you know we're completely clean when you're a government doing government things you're going to do bad
Starting point is 00:30:38 things to people sometimes um and that's not an excuse that's just the reality because we live in a complex dangerous world but the idea of having China in that position or having Russia in that position is far worse. I mean, what is the path that we're on that leads to that not being the case of us not being the like everything we're seeing right now with tariffs and, you know, the potential shuttering of USAID, does that lead to a China dominated planet, a unipolar China communist party or a U.S. dominated? I don't think so. I think the most likely way that we end up with the Chinese dominating or with with Russia dominating is if we don't take care of our economy and we allow the unfunded liabilities, the mandatory spending to to blow up the dollar i think that's the most clear and pleasant present threat what's you know what's crazy is that for i don't know how long it's been what 50 maybe 40 years the u.s economy has been extracted we've been giving away our jobs and industry to mexico to canada and to china yeah and and this has led to the threat of nuclear annihilation with a massive superpower that is china that didn't that didn't have to be the case well and if you look at the numbers for median household income adjusted for inflation we have totally plateaued in a lot of
Starting point is 00:31:59 ways we've gone back it when uh was it nixon that that finally got us closed the gold window? Yeah. You could support a family off of one income. Good luck doing that now. Well, so how does Trump make Americans have more babies? Well, I've got a lot of thoughts on this. Be my guest. Well, look, I don't think it works just to pay people.
Starting point is 00:32:22 But one thing that Elon brought up recently that I thought was creative was in the I think it was Bill Clinton. He did a budget cutting bill and essentially they offered federal employees twenty five thousand dollars to retire early and quit. And that twenty five thousand dollars opened up the doors for us to cut even more. So you could think about it in that terms where you give a super high baby bonus. I don't know if it'll work. I think we got to look at countries like Hungary that have tried a bunch of this stuff. Married, three kids, no taxes. I love that.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And if you get divorced, you lose it. I agree with that but what about like a friend of mine he actually brought this up what about like a new homestead act for families we have all this federal land like literally i think millions and millions and millions of acres that are just taken up by the federal government just to preserve the lands what if you gave anyone that you know signed a a forgivable loan after 25 years, you pledge to have children, but you have to go out there and you have to build your own home. And it's forgiven after 25 years of marriage and being open to life. I think that's an interesting idea.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And it's very American, right? Westward expansion would decentralize, decenter the power structures of these big cities, get a lot of people moving out. People want a home they want something that they can invest in well i mean powering to them after we conquer uh canada and greenland we're gonna we're gonna need to to settle in these territories you know i know that started off as a joke to him but i think we should actually consider conquering canada i mean they need to be colonized i i think that the the one of the things that the federal government can do and this might sound um it might sound i don't know it doesn't matter um one of the things the federal government can do is stop
Starting point is 00:34:12 focusing on on lgbt issues and the reason i say that is when when the goal of the federal government is to center the marginalized and so this is is actually, it actually goes beyond LGBT issues, but actually should, goes to more the impulse of everyone on the left or the left-leaning people. The federal government should be focusing on families, should be focusing on traditional families, should be focusing on men and women having babies. That's what continues your society.
Starting point is 00:34:44 We need to have education that does not demonize the American, our history. I think the 1776 Project or whatever it is. They're bringing that back, by the way. Yeah, which is great. That kind of stuff is what you should be teaching your children in schools. If you refuse to teach that kind of stuff, your school should lose any funding. Right? Completely and totally.
Starting point is 00:35:05 The federal government should not be paying for schools to teach children that the American people and American history is uniquely bad. Or that they're – okay, think about how insane it is. You have the U.S. American government funding schools that are teaching the kids not that America's bad, but that their United States of America government is corrupt and evil and intrinsically. What interest do you have besides destroying the country? Who mentioned Hungary? I did. I love it. Oh, yeah, I think we both. I just looked it up and it says Hungary's birth rate has been declining over recent years.
Starting point is 00:35:45 This trend has been consistent since 2022. Probably why they're implementing. The fertility rate has shown a slight increase in recent years, reaching, well, it's still early, but 1.5 births per woman in 2025. A 0.45% increase from 2024. Despite these efforts, the birth rate has continued to fall and that reached 1.5 births per woman in 2023 which is 11 percent lower than in 2022 it's I just I don't think that the government can do anything about it well because you know it's it's about people's hearts and their values and the government can't do anything to cultural change they that level they can do some things the question is the level of impact it would have yeah so i think that's offering tax incentives and
Starting point is 00:36:40 things like that uh benefits will help but not enough You're right. There has to be a cultural shift. And I think largely through USAID. We've had this massive shift towards telling women that they should be girl bosses and they should live alone. And it's wild to me that I think if you look at the voting patterns, you basically have families versus single people yeah like liberals are largely single women who have cats yep that's an insult cats are great i got a cat too i'm saying that's just what they are and if you go to one of these
Starting point is 00:37:16 people and you ask them about what would you want to invest in they're gonna say but but trump putting tariffs is gonna make my avocado toast cost more money. And then I'm saying, if we don't bring back American culture and industry, what will be left for our children? And they go, I don't care. I don't have any. Yeah, I think you're exactly right. And I think that the idea that, you know, like Mary said, it's not something that government can do, but government can push around the edges, right? It seems counterintuitive to make it more comfortable for people so that they feel comfortable with having children. Because historically we can see people only really have children when they're uncomfortable and they're afraid for their lives. No, no, no, no. It's the opposite. It's the opposite.
Starting point is 00:38:02 It's actually more closely tied. People getting married and having kids is actually more closely tied to their outlook of the future. You had a baby boom after World War II. Why? Because Americans were coming back, and they just got done with a bloody, terrible war, and they knew and felt that the future was good. Yeah. One thing I want to point out. So I read this book years ago called What to Expect When No One's Expecting. It was by Jonathan Last before he went nuts on this Trump arrangement stuff. And he points out one very important thing. The population carries a lot of momentum. It's very tough to stop a baby boom or to slow it down because what happens is you have a bunch of kids and then those kids just naturally have a bunch of kids. But at the same time, population decline is incredibly hard to stop.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Once it starts to get in motion, for example, once your average woman who hasn't had a kid turns 35, well, her fertility drops by 50% when she hits her 30s. So it's incredibly difficult to have more kids. I will say this, though, Mary, is in terms of what the government can and can't do to get people getting married, having kids again. There's a lot they can stop doing right now that would help at least stop the bleeding. And what I mean by that is like, why are we we have one point six is our fertility rate right now, which is like, you know, point six under. To be fair, liberals are like one.3 and conservatives are like 1.8 well we got to get those numbers i know but i'm saying like liberals are doing yeah what i meant when i said that is that you can just see when any country becomes wealthy yeah they just stop having kids and it just seems to be their preference that's a great point because it it it really is
Starting point is 00:39:45 like the the the unsolved problem is that wealth creates uh a society that doesn't want to have kids and the funny thing is like kids are like the physical manifestation of a hopeful society right like you don't have a lot of kids if you think tomorrow's going to be worse for your children people don't they just don't you know they don't if you think that like you know the world's going to end your and that's part of why liberals don't have kids nowadays is because they think oh i don't want to bring kids into this world that's getting hotter and we're going to have a war they're they're all nihilistic at the end of the day. And so they're like, well, I want to live for myself. Whereas people that have religion and have hope for the future, or at the very least hope in general, even if they don't have hope for human society, they're like,
Starting point is 00:40:34 well, when we die, we all go to heaven. So it's okay to have kids. That's better than not having kids because they believe that that's what they were told by God. They were instructed to go forth and multiply. But I do think that children are the physical manifestation of a hopeful society. And I think that without religion, you end up with a lot more nihilism and a lot of people that are just like, I don't want to have kids. I'm going to live for myself and live for today. How you solve that, I don't know. But well, with wealth, you seems to come more or less religion and or more more.
Starting point is 00:41:09 It's weird because it's not really like less religion. They just turned into a state religious. But like it's not the same kind of traditional religion. And then you have fewer people having kids because they don't have the same impulses. They think, oh, you know, I'm going to live for me. So I don't I don't know that I have the solution. But I do think that the government shouldn't be focusing on the margins. is they think, oh, you know, I'm going to live for me. So I don't know that I have the solution, but I do think that the government shouldn't be focusing on the margins. I think the government should be focusing on people that want to have families and want to have kids. We were talking about this a little bit before the show
Starting point is 00:41:34 because I was playing Like a Stone by Audioslave, which to anybody with a brain is about a dude reading the Bible, and then he says, I regret all the things I've done, and I want to be in heaven and all that stuff. And the point I was bringing up is that culturally in this country when we when we have these songs or movies that are very right right wing in their in their i guess message the right never cheered for it you know it was just taken for granted it was it was it was the way it was supposed to be so captain america as a reference i i give quite a bit the first Captain America movie, and it was like 2010 or whatever, is about a dude who's desperately trying to enlist to serve his country. The second movie is about a guy realizing the government was corrupt and overrun by fascists who had secretly taken over it for the whole time and been operating since World War II.
Starting point is 00:42:18 It's a very different message. People still enjoy these movies, but I look at it like, why don't conservatives, or why didn't they? I suppose it doesn't matter why they didn't, but they didn't say, hey, this is really, really great, make more of it. What ends up happening is the woke activists come in and complain, and the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and you end up with 14 years or 10 years of wokeness. Until finally, it's not even necessarily conservatives, it's just regular people. We're like, we do not want this weird garbage. That's a good point, Tim. Like, I do think conservatives and anyone on the right needs to do a better job of rewarding anyone that's doing the right thing and producing beautiful pro-America, pro-God, pro-family art.
Starting point is 00:42:57 You know, and as you were talking, it reminded me of the Chick-fil-A protests. I think it was around 2011, 2012. Their founder comes out and says they only respect one man, one woman marriage. And the left did a whole backlash. All the LGBT groups started boycotting them. And conservatives rose to the challenge and they did a boycott. And it literally put Chick-fil-A even more on the map than it already was. It exploded their growth. And if you think about what would have happened if conservatives just went away and didn't go and do the boycott, didn't reward Chick-fil-A for...
Starting point is 00:43:34 Didn't Chick-fil-A ultimately cave to a lot of book demands later on, though? They did a little bit, but it was more on the tolerance of the things. But they never changed their position on gay marriage. Yeah, I guess maybe I'm talking myself out of this. I mean, they did kind of. Well, that's because you're right. Conservatives did this. But then in the late 2010s, they stopped.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yeah, it was it was, I guess, you know, just battered and beaten down. But now things are starting to turn around. Yeah, I think we're seeing a major shift in the culture. But, you know, who knows? Well, let's do this. I'll jump to this story, which I painstakingly do. From People, Alicia Keys delivers powerful message at 2025 Grammys. D-E-I is not a threat.
Starting point is 00:44:15 It's a gift. You know what I absolutely love about this is that you got this video, and I think it was like Billie Eilish. Was that who it was? Who was like sitting there going like, yeah, you go or something? And I'm like, yo, you guys lost lost like the popular vote was for Donald Trump it's clearly not working out and they're doubling down at their weird cult fest DEI may not be a threat but it's purely illegal it's purely it's a violation of civil rights law exactly right illegal it's absolutely illegal and and eventually these companies that that hire based on dei quotas
Starting point is 00:44:46 and stuff like that they're going to find out that they're going to see people that are gonna you know you're gonna take them to court there's there i don't know if we're gonna talk about it but there was there's a a um uh someone's suing um the the company a company about hiring, what's it called, the air traffic controllers. There was like a thousand people that were... They were saying if you were mentally unwell. Yeah, there's that. But there's also apparently there was like a thousand people that were looked over that had some of the best scores on the test.
Starting point is 00:45:19 One dude got like 100% on this eight-hour test. You have to score 85%. But they didn't hire him because he's a white guy. And there's multiple cases pending right now like that. And when that kind of then if I if I remember correctly, it's been going since like, for since like 2000. Like five years, I'm not sure exactly. But the point is, once these actually come to light, and you see that there's a lot of people that are suing or that have been passed over for important jobs, you're like this kind of talk is going to be widely rejected. People can be like, no, this is not OK, because you're making the world worse.
Starting point is 00:45:57 We've talked about a crisis of competence on this show multiple times because of hiring people that are not qualified because of their identity. Like that is happening. That has been happening. And granted, thankfully, there haven't been a lot of these things that have happened, a lot of accidents. But the more you do it, the more the possibility becomes a reality, the more frequently things are going to go wrong and you know air travel is is very very redundant like you have to have a lot of things go wrong to have an accident especially one like this well the the meme now is that pete budaj was holding this all together like spider-man in the train and that as soon as he's out like planes are bursting into flames and they're crashing i'm like it is kind of funny to me that we've been warning you about this for years and then trump's not even a week in and we
Starting point is 00:46:47 see a bunch of disasters you're like must be trump must have done it and it's like or we've been warning you this is going to happen trump has not had enough time to do anything related to any of this did you see like the latest like disingenuous attacks from the dems like schumer and pelosi and all that they're saying to have the president of the United States blame these tragedies on, what is it, persons of color and minorities is absolutely tragic. Like, no, no, no, no. We're blaming it on the system that you created, that forces, or not forces,
Starting point is 00:47:18 but where you actually choose people based on their identities, not on their qualifications. And it's just more and more the same from these guys they they lost and they still didn't get the memo or they're like refusing to accept the memo it's been 10 years of this stuff or longer you know the i think the first kind of inkling of this stuff was probably like when barack obama first got elected. So easily 10, probably 15 years of this stuff has been going on. And it's really, really ingrained now. And it's something that people have been complaining about and, and, and being called all the names in the world. You know, if you said, Oh, this is a bad
Starting point is 00:47:56 policy is like, Oh, you're a racist, sexist, bigot, blah, blah, all the isms and stuff like that. And now, no one cares anymore. Everybody that that. Everybody that's, you know, would be critical of this stuff. And they, you know, if the left, someone on the left says, oh, well, you're only saying this because you're a racist. They're like, I don't, your magic words don't work. Right. Transfo. Try to put your magic spells back in your pouch
Starting point is 00:48:19 because none of it works anymore. I don't care about your mumbo jumbo. I'm telling you something that's true. You're talking about air traffic controllers being hired for DEI reasons, right? That was the specific issue that I was talking about. That's like homicidal. Yes. And I'm just,
Starting point is 00:48:33 if I like envision who I would think of as the ideal air traffic controller, he's like a kind of nerdy white dude who's like played video games since he was like eight years old and has incredible hand-eye coordination and incredible focus. There's always the Chad meme. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Whatever the job is, the ideal guy is the Chad meme. Just a big ripped guy and he's sitting there and he's like, turn left. I mean, I don't know. I don't know the qualifications that, you know, you have to have to be. You better be a gamer i mean yeah and like back to the the grammys this is just like a huge moment of catharsis for all of these people because like the wound of trump winning is still so fresh for them it was not just alicia keys it was everyone who was making statements like this. I think one other celebrity like dedicated.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I think it was Shakira dedicated her award to immigrants. Not really sure like which immigrants she's talking about. And they're like they're seen and loved and everything. She's like mothering them. And then Lady Gaga was the carjacking making a statement about how trans people, I just want you to know you're not invisible or whatever. And it was just nonstop after that. Nonsense.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Can you do that Shakira impression again? I thought that was really good. That was really accurate. Can we do this? It was almost a Kamala Harris impression. We did it, Joe. That was good. I can't remember who tweeted.
Starting point is 00:50:08 It might have been Milo. Somebody was like, I don't watch the Grammys because it's basically like the pre-show for the Diddy Party or whatever. No one watches it. They've been struggling for years and no one even cares about these things anymore. You just see like clips of it show up on your timeline. I didn't even know it happened. The only positive thing I can say about the Grammys this year is the Grammys actually managed to
Starting point is 00:50:31 give a Grammy to a good metal band. Usually they blow it. Which one? To Gojira. Yeah, but they gave Beyonce a country award. Well, she wrote a country record. Biggest DEI win maybe in history that Beyonce got best country album. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:50:49 Nobody liked or cared about Cowboy Carter. And it was just, it was cheeks. It was so bad. Wait, wait, which cheeks? Is that like ass? Yeah, it was ass. And she got it because she was like making a statement about how like black people belong in country music. Like that was what they were framing it as.
Starting point is 00:51:11 So it was like Black History Month. Like we're just going to give Beyonce the award because she's here. Like participation trophy. I'm going to make the Hollywood Actors Award Ceremony. And I'm going to give it to me and Phil. And, you know, basically just when they give an award for country music and they're not the country music awards, it's just meaningless. She won over Post Malone, who has made like so much country music recently. He's really good at it.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I mean, I kind of like him more as a rapper. F1 Trillion's good. Aside from that, he lost to Beyonce, which is just a joke, and everyone knows it. Well, look, I mean, Beyonce, the music, the Grammys are all about the music industry patting itself on the back. Right? It's all the people that are on the Grammy council or whatever. It's a small group. Yeah, it's a small group of people. Tom Morello's on it.
Starting point is 00:52:03 They get bought off. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Jay and you wrote a check yeah when you end up like the way that you get on a you know submitted is your label submits you and then it's always like who does your manager know does your manager know the right people can they grease the palms of the people that are on there or at least are they going to take them to dinner are they going to submit it no you submitted? No. Never? Well, there's been times where our label submitted, but I've straight up said that if we ever got a Grammy... Like, we would never get one because I'm not in with the people, but if we ever did
Starting point is 00:52:32 end up with one, I would do the same thing that Randy from Lamb of God did. Randy from Lamb of God. Lamb of God won a Grammy. Randy didn't go. I wouldn't go either. Randy took the Grammy nomination, the Grammy award. He auctioned it off, and he gave the money to charity. And that is the exact correct thing to do.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Or even better, do what Kanye did. He just pissed on it. Or he brought his wife naked to the Grammys. Yeah, he did that. Yeah, that's a thing. Everyone's saying that he's like controlling her and forcing her to do this. I find it
Starting point is 00:53:03 incredibly easy to believe that this woman is debasing herself for money and clout. Like it wouldn't be the first time. Yeah. I mean, I just assume she's into it. Oh, and you know, there were kids there, by the way, there were children present. You can even see in one of the videos, there were children present on the red carpet because there were all these like, make a wish kids there kids there it was insane and that's like a crime like i don't know how they're not in jail right now you know honestly what she did it's like for those that don't know uh she was wearing completely see-through garment of some sort it was the most see it was like the most garment that you can imagine.
Starting point is 00:53:47 It's just one step past the line that the Grammys were already at. Oh, yeah. I'm not saying the Grammys are the pinnacle of human decency or anything. No, I'm just saying that we've already seen nipples and stuff, and they just go like, but it's only a little bit, and they do things like that. She just was like, I'm going for it. I mean, I don't think that Kanye could have gotten away with walking out there naked.
Starting point is 00:54:05 No. But she did. And I think it's really disheartening because you can't get away with this once you have cultivated a mainly Christian fan base. Or at least people who profess to be Christian with this worship music that he was making as recently as 2023 and then now with his current behavior you can either determine that he was putting on a front the whole time or he has taken an extremely different path we're talking about kanye yeah i mean he's a look i love him i listen to all of his music um i i one of my only regrets is that I've never been to one of his shows. I've been to a hundred other shows, but he's a bit unstable.
Starting point is 00:54:51 I mean, I don't know if there's really any method to his madness. Like, he's all over the place. I think he's one of these, like, crazy artists. A lot of people just wanted to take him at his word when he was talking about converting to Christianity and wanting to make music that isn't offensive and indecent. then carnival comes out and you see okay i guess you went back on that and it's it's straight up blasphemous there are blasphemous lyrics in that in the gospel album no in in carnival his recent album that was nominated um there's a line that's like he's calling himself jesus christ well um yeah well it doesn't get more unambiguous than that.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Well, he called himself Jesus for I mean, look, I think he's an unstable person. And also, like, he's obviously unstable. He was praising Hitler on Alex Jones. Like, I don't know. I just don't. I think he makes good music. And that's where it is with me and him. Let's let's move on and get back into the world of boring politics.
Starting point is 00:55:44 We have this from the New York Times. Top FBI agent in New York vows to dig in after removals at agency. It's not just him. We've got some posts. Let me see. We got one from Jack Posobiec. Federal workers are actively stating they're declaring war on the Trump admin from within the government.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Look at this. To my fellow feds, especially veterans. And I'm just not going to read it. It's a long-winded stupid. it's like they don't care about us and he's a goon and probably yeah probably 2025 then we got this from elon musk r slash fbi says op sac reminder use of fingerprinting on emails and notices basically warning that elon and his doge team are using there's this technique called coloring the water, where to prevent leaks or to track leaks, you send out slightly different information in every direction.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And then whichever information leaks, you know who the leaker is. In this instance, they use fingerprinting and emails. So if you screen grab the email, they know exactly who it came from. It looks uniform, but there's something tiny about it you don't notice. So Elon Musk is saying, if you leak, you're fired. Yes. The idea that there would be no resistance
Starting point is 00:56:52 is a silly one. Of course, they're going to resist. And now, even James O'Keefe has this video out where they're basically saying they're going to defy the orders from Kristi Noem. Absolutely. This is something that at least libertarian kind of minded people have had a sense of because the libertarians have been, you know, ineffective forever. But this administration is actually the most libertarian administration in probably 75 or longer years.
Starting point is 00:57:19 This is the kind of stuff you can expect the government to do. These kind of like, oh, he's such a terrible person and, oh, they're going to put all these people out of business and out of work and et cetera, et cetera. That's the same thing you get any time you try to cut in government at all. If you try to cut any program, the people that are that are made a living off of it, of course, are going to call you names. They're going to they're going to say that you're this bad person, et cetera. And if you're an unpop, a president, a president that is so polarizing with an opposition that is so sure that you're the worst person ever, you know, they're going to do everything they can to cast everything you do as the worst. It's ridiculous because they're saying oh donald
Starting point is 00:58:05 trump is a fascist and he's he's like hitler and it's like he's trying to make the government smaller fascists don't try to limit the scope and size of government they want a government that's involved in almost every aspect of your life because i mean mussolini said everything within the state nothing outside of the state. And Mussolini is the quintessential fascist, aside from the Nazis, which were a whole other kind of fascism. But Mussolini really kind of wrote the book on fascism. And there was nothing that the Italian fascists were not involved with. Any personal life was gone.
Starting point is 00:58:44 The government had a stake in all of it. The idea that Donald Trump is a fascist when he's trying to cut things, trying to remove government from your daily life is ridiculous, but they have nothing, which is exactly why they're doubling down. I wish that Trump were the person they say he is. I always think about this.
Starting point is 00:59:05 It makes me so sad that he's not the fascist dictator that they say he is. I always think about this. It makes me so sad that he's not the fascist dictator that they say he is. The irony shouldn't be lost on us, though. I mean, for the last, what, eight years? We've had to listen to the left talk about how Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. The principles of democracy are under attack every single day from every direction from trump and his team and meanwhile we have a democratically elected president who gets into office who has a what 57 56 approval rating yeah who's doing all this his approval rating is rising as he's doing his agenda and now you have this deep state of this this shadow government let's call it who's trying to thwart him every which way like which is it do you do
Starting point is 00:59:45 we all know we all know it was never about democracy what they really meant what elon said if you change out democracy with bureaucracy it makes a lot more sense yeah there's uh i just had a uh i just retweeted it so it's at the top of my uh my twitter feed if anyone's interested in looking but um there's a new y York Times piece that was written today and it says we have the Democrats are saying we have no coherent message Democrats struggle to oppose Trump more than 50 interviews with Democratic leaders reveal a party
Starting point is 01:00:14 struggling to decide what it believes in what issues to prioritize and how to confront an aggressive right-wing administration that's exactly what we want what if with this USAID purge, they're going to fire a bunch of feds, FBI agents. I mean, that's pretty crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Basically, any FBI agent who was involved in J6 investigations is on the chopping block, including leadership. Yeah. What if they take USAID and just start funding a bunch of conservative organizations the way that they were funding? To make up for it. I think that's more than justified. I don't want it. And we get 100 years of populist right-wing rule in this country? I don't know if you get that, but it would definitely make up for it.
Starting point is 01:00:59 I'll tell you this. So my dad was a one-term member of Congress. He got elected in 2010. And we killed it with fundraising. We raised one and a half million dollars. Our opponent raised, I think it was 2.1. That was like real money at the time. You look at what these congressional candidates are raising now. It's three, four, five million if you're a Democrat, right? And it's always been puzzling to me where the hell all this money is coming from. Like what was the big change where all of a sudden Democrats are raising, you know, mid seven figures? It has to be this government stuff. And it had to have been led by Barack Obama. They got too close. I think the 2010 wave year really scared the bejesus out of out of the Democrats. They thought, holy cow, there's this populist backlash to all these Obama policies,
Starting point is 01:01:46 and they started plotting and planning. Barack Obama got elected, and then everything started becoming super dysfunctional. It's like he exacerbated everything. Yeah, it's interesting. The argument is that with USAID, it was funding the Uniparty, which
Starting point is 01:02:01 was Republicans and Democrats as well. I don't know. It's circuitous. I wouldn't call it conspiratorial because the money is traceable you can actually see that like this organization received money from usad and then donated money to these activist groups it's all there the intent is a question but if uh if the u.s goes in if like elon and rubio whatever they go in and say no no we're just going to make sure that all that money goes to like you know bible study or something like they go in and say, no, no, no, we're just going to make sure that all that money goes to like, you know, Bible study or something like that. That could dramatically shift things in a way that's worse than just shutting it down.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Right now, they shut it down. The deep state says, dang, we lose our funding. They reappropriate all that funding in the populist direction, and it's game over. I like it. I kind of like it. Maybe we should petition that. Well, Rubio is saying he doesn't want to shut it down. I'm not sure what policies, you know, you should be focusing that money on if we were to do that.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Right. Like 1776 curriculum in every public school. I don't think that that's going to take that much money. No, it's probably like I think that the actual the actual things that the Republicans or conservatives want the government to do probably don't take as much money as is being cleaned up. And again, this is just discretionary. Right. So even if you took that excess money, did a couple of things that conservatives like and threw the rest of it at mandatory spending, you don't do anything about the coming economic crisis. No, you know what you do is you redirect the USAID funding to helping women afford pregnancies. You pay for every single pregnancy in the country as long as they're married. That's how you do it.
Starting point is 01:03:34 And that would shift so much power back. And Tim, I think we've talked about this on your show because we did this report years ago. It was like 2019. And we studied the impact that family structure has on voting behavior and ideology if you're married and have kids you're way more conservative and if you come from a household of a married mom and dad that didn't get divorced didn't you know cohabitate you are way more likely to be conservative than their never married peers enforced monogamy Just incentivize monogamy.
Starting point is 01:04:06 No. So in force, Jordan Peterson got yelled at by the liberals for this. Enforced monogamy is just the sociological term for when a society has pressures on wanting you to be monogamous. So like back in the day, if you were a woman and you were not married, you were a spinster. And so there was a shame involved in it. Enforced monogamy was then taken to imply that Jordan Peterson was saying the government should force women to marry incels. That's not what he was saying. He was saying that a society should have its own guardrails. This is what people didn't understand. Mary, you made a really great point about how government can't really do much to change these things.
Starting point is 01:04:44 You can't rely on the stroke of a pen. The moment you're writing things down to make them happen, you're a really great point about how government can't really do much to change these things. You can't rely on the stroke of a pen. The moment you're writing things down to make them happen, you're already in trouble. Society needs to dictate its own rules. And we have a degenerate, immoral, amoral society right now. Well, I think a lot of that's – We're winning. We're winning. It's shifting. We're starting to win, but again, we have this report that's coming out later this week. We analyzed all of the funding streams that the federal government is using to push gender ideology on our kids and throughout our entire culture. It is over $100 million at least, right?
Starting point is 01:05:16 This is insane. Government is doing so much to cause dysfunction that if you were to just get the government to stop doing the programs that are causing dysfunction i think you'd have a lot of healing that would naturally start happening yeah i think we're winning i don't think we're winning at all i people just look at the end of a battle and they look at trump winning an election and they think that's the end of a war and that's incredibly naive i don't know i'm excited i don't think i don't think it's over i hope people are far from over i don't think people think it's not even close to over we're not winning we're not winning the culture we're not i disagree the popular the popular vote shows
Starting point is 01:06:00 a cultural shift it doesn't mean that we've won the culture, but we are winning. And then you look at, was it Rachel Maddow's key demo average was 68,000? Like we have like just about that much watching live at one moment. And that was her like cap viewership in the demo. So I do think it's a big mistake of Trump and his team to start defending TikTok all of a sudden. That's going to flip on a dime in two seconds
Starting point is 01:06:24 and start pushing Dylan Mulvaney all over again. But I think Trump wins. Facebook backs off censorship. YouTube does as well. Rumble's expanding. He's got a billion dollar investment from Tether. There's tons of cultural victories and we've been gaining. I think with Trump's victory, a popular vote win for the first time in 20 years, we are gaining ground.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Doesn't it signify that there's like a real shift in people and where they get their news from? I mean, I think that's the most hopeful thing is people really don't watch CNN or MSNBC anymore. They are going to Timcast and they're going to Rogan and they're going to all these other sources. It's becoming decentralized, which is a beautiful thing because it's one less tool that the state can use. And they look, we're expected to believe that the FBI and the CIA and USAID, that they do regime change and operations in every other country except the United States. It's garbage. Everyone knows that that's not true. Let's jump to this next story. We got this one from the New York Post.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Democrats' unfavorability rating reaches new 16 year high as party keeps licking its wounds following disastrous 2024 uh phil had this uh post we have no coherent message democrats struggle to oppose trump more than 50 interviews of democratic leaders revealed a party struggling to decide what it believes in what issues to prioritize and how to confront an aggressive right-wing administration. I just want to make it simple for everybody. There is, let's count, just Tulsi Gabbard. She was a Democrat. RFK Jr., he was a Democrat.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Donald Trump, he was a Democrat. Who else do we have? Basically, they're calling it an aggressive right-wing administration that's led largely by a bunch of moderates. Yeah, they don't understand that they are the extremist lunatics and they need to moderate. Instead, what did they do? They voted David Hogg as their as their vice chair.
Starting point is 01:08:17 They've lost the plot. That's that's a great point. The day of the fact that they made David Hogg the vice vice chair. We talked about this a little bit earlier. The DNC, whatever, when they were doing the voting, they did a land acknowledgement. They were talking about what gender you were allowed to vote for. If I understand correctly, you were not allowed to vote for two men or two women. You had to vote for one man and one woman.
Starting point is 01:08:42 You weren't allowed to vote. What about two women? No, I don't think you could do that either. women you had to vote for one man and one woman you weren't allowed to vote about two women i know you i couldn't i don't think you could do that either i think you had to have it like some kind of non-binary or something i could be i could i could have misunderstood you had to vote for one man and one woman yeah you couldn't vote for like marriage to me i could have missed i could have misheard because it sounded like the people that were actually reading the rules at the dnc convention were confused as well so i might have misheard or might have misunderstood. But the point is, they're still doing the same things that turn
Starting point is 01:09:10 people off. If they do this stuff, and they have policies that are working, most people are like, I don't care, whatever, right? Until until your child is confronted with a man and you know, until your daughter is confronted in the bathroom with a man, for the most part, will be like nah you know it's not that big of a deal and they're like it doesn't really matter to me it doesn't affect me until it becomes personal but when they're doing this stuff and they're mismanaging the government when they're doing this stuff and you have inflation when they're doing this stuff and you have an economy that's not doing well when they're doing this stuff and there are actual tangible problems these things become important like no water in your fire hydrants like no water i mean i look i
Starting point is 01:09:51 if i was trump or if i was one of these billionaire conservative donors i would be getting my team together and plotting and planning on how we can start to make california purple have you do you listen to the all-in podcast at all i do every now. Do you listen to the All In podcast at all? I do, every now and then. Yeah, I listen to it like every week. It's good. And those guys were all- That's Mark Halpern and Sean Spicer.
Starting point is 01:10:11 No, no, that's two-way, Mark Halpern's new platform. The All In podcast is Chamath, I forget what his last name is, Jason. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah. One of the guys is now on Trump's team. He's the crypto and AI guy. David Sachs. David Sachs, yes.
Starting point is 01:10:29 But these guys were all former Democrats. They were all Silicon Valley guys. And they're all like Chamath and Sachs had an actual legit fundraiser for Trump. They have all seen what the Democrats are doing. People like Mark Andreessenessen who's also a you know a uh yeah i think he was an early investor in in paypal he was uh you know a yeah great but these guys were all staunch democrats and they've seen the way that the government has been behaving and the way that the government has been stifling innovation and
Starting point is 01:11:00 stifling new technologies after the rfK Jr. hearing, I was watching that. And this was last week, right? Because I'm like sitting in the couch, unable to talk or open my mouth, watching this hearing, and I just thought these people are evil. Like RFK Jr. is moderate on a lot of these issues. If you go to any L.A., if you go to like, what's that neighborhood called? Electric Avenue or whatever. They all these hippie dippy leftists wearing their sundresses and like refusing modern medicine and doing their holistic crystal woo woo stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Those are Democrat voters and they're being told they're stupid and they're wrong. When RFK Jr., who's not even as far as them, is saying we should have more rigorous science on vaccines. They go, oh, you're a crazy person. I saw so many tweets from people being like, that's it. I'm done. I can't believe the Democrats would say something like this. I'm disgusted. You know, there are Democrats who are woke-ish, who are liberal, who hate Trump, and very much say Big Pharma is screwing us over.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Yes, yes. And then they go to RFK and they attack them and tons of other Democrat voters are just like, I'm out. The MAHA movement is like the most beautiful new addition to the MAGA movement. I mean, it is the most popular aspect that they've added on.
Starting point is 01:12:15 And it's so copacetic because it flows with all of the opposition to the trans stuff. It's beautiful. Republicans, and I'm telling you, it's not the Democrats that are going to kill RFK Jr.'s nomination. It's Republicans. And those Republicans better watch out because I'm telling you, there's so many of these moms that are heavily involved in the Republican primaries. Here's looking at you, Bill Cassidy. You don't want to mess around with these people. You're out if you kill this nomination.
Starting point is 01:12:45 He's the most popular. Remember the Turning Point rally that they had where they announced that he was endorsing Trump? That was a huge gain of momentum for us. This is the Kennedys making right for all of the Catholics that they misled into the Democratic Party. That's what this is. It's beautiful. What are they worried RFK is going to do? He's going to screw over Big Pharma.
Starting point is 01:13:08 And all of these people who are paid by Big Pharma are obviously. Even Bernie. So Bernie Sanders got so mad about this because RFK pointed out he's the largest recipient of Big Pharma dollars. And he goes, not from CEOs, just from the people who work there. It's like, okay, dude. Unreal. Who are all making so much. It's not like, you know, it's like he's acting like these are like blue-collar job workers at Big Pharma that are cutting him paychecks. No, these are like people that are making high six-figures, seven-figures salaries.
Starting point is 01:13:35 It doesn't even matter. The point is, Bernie, I got a question. How come so many people who work for Big Pharma want to give you money, Bernie? Honest question. Could it be that under your policies of getting rid of the insurance and giving single payer, they're going to go on government contracts? They'll never break. Could it be that they're going to essentially start functioning like USAID where the government just writes them a $20 billion check? They can pay themselves because the private entity is getting government money money forever.
Starting point is 01:13:59 And they'll never have competition ever again because the government can give infinite cash. Maybe that's why the people who work there are like, i want to do this guy and he's the number one recipient and he was like no not from the ceos yeah like it was like i was only 1.5 million out of 200 million the fact that it didn't come from the ceos doesn't change the fact that he got all that money from people in you know in pharma like you don't have to be a ceo this is this is what the game the democrats try to play because they they know that the average person doesn't follow the news they go like you know that donald trump is increasing your taxes and you're like how with the tariffs what does that mean and democrats go tariffs are a tax on you and it's like okay well that's not
Starting point is 01:14:37 necessarily true taxes are going to be on the people importing and the assumption is they'll raise the cost of the price of the product to cover the cost of the tariffs. However, because of market forces in the United States, that may not actually be true. If there's two coffees and one comes from Canada, one comes from the United States, and there's a 25% tariff, that means that $10 bag of coffee in Canada is now $12.50. So the company says to absorb the cost of the tariff, we're going to raise the price at $12.50. Good luck. The American coffee is still $10. So you can raise the price.
Starting point is 01:15:08 What's going to happen? The company is going to say, if we raise the price, we will not be competitive in the marketplace. So we're going to have to – we're going to eat it. So our margins are going to go down. And if they can't afford it, they might not even sell to the United States anymore. It's not a guarantee they're going to raise taxes on you. But Democrats are lying, saying all of those taxes will be on you.
Starting point is 01:15:27 No. That's the game they play. They use assumptive language to trick you into thinking the wrong thing. Well, how about the slow sucking sound that took all of our manufacturing jobs away over the last 30 years? I mean, there are other costs besides. I'm willing to pay a little bit more for my coffee or my tables or my clothing if it means my neighbors have jobs still and that they aren't humiliated and told by Joe Biden that they need to learn how to code after getting kicked out of their coal mine. Well, it's funny because we've talked about this forever. Like I was I've ran before the election.
Starting point is 01:16:00 I'm ranting on free trade and talking about how our jobs have been extracted four years ago, longer. I'm talking about how Trump threatens a tariff on Mexico and the auto manufacturers come back to Michigan. Biden gets in and they rip it off and they go back to Mexico. It was crazy the back and forth they were doing. We've talked about how we as Americans are willing to pay more for American-made products because it's better for our culture, our economy, and our children's future. And I made the point, we launched Booneys HQ well before the election. Booneys HQ skateboards are made in America. We sell them at a cheaper price. We give a better royalty to our pro riders. We make profit. And we were told we would make an additional like 10 bucks per board if we sold Chinese-made boards. I said, no, we want to
Starting point is 01:16:43 invest in America. Donald Trump coming in and threatening tariffs, now they're going, I thought you guys wanted cheaper eggs. And I'm like, uh-huh, well, buy chickens. Like, I am deeply concerned about the jobs in this country being extracted, and I am personally willing to pay more for American. That's always been the case.
Starting point is 01:16:59 A great example is Mammoth Nation and Public Square. As if Trump supporters and MAGA and populists were not actively building industries around supporting American-made products. No, it's obvious. They just wanted to keep their gravy train running. The Democrats' campaigns are all funded by the major corporations that don't want to have to worry about restructuring or changing anything in their business. They just want the profits to keep coming through. The Democrats are now both the party of big corporations and big government. You're starting to see a bit of a shift from big corporations.
Starting point is 01:17:31 They're starting to come back to the Republican side after Trump won, but I don't know how long that's going to last, actually. I mean, I don't know how long it's going to last either. Man, as the joke goes, this past week was a hell of a year. You know, Trump's... I can pull up his approval rating right here. Trump's approval rating from RCP aggregate plus 4.6.
Starting point is 01:17:57 You know, if we go back to the first few days of his presidency, he was up like 13 or whatever, up 8. Still, we expected to normalize a little bit, but he's never been above water. No, that's right. And so clearly, in terms of what the American people want, they're liking what they're seeing. I like the fact that he's got high approval ratings,
Starting point is 01:18:15 but to be honest with you, the substance of what he's doing, all of these executive orders, all the things that Doge is doing, that's the real victory. Even if people started to get a little weak in the knees because it's big changes too fast for them or a little faster than they're comfortable with, I feel like that's okay because these changes are what he actually did run on. And these are the things that are necessary, making the government smaller and more efficient, making the the the fact that are making sure that the the bureaucracy has limit or there's a limit to the bureaucracy's ability to stymie the will of the American people. The the bureaucracy passing rules, it has the same effect as Congress passing laws.
Starting point is 01:19:01 And that's not supposed to be how we're how legislation works in the united states right the executive branch has the ability to implement things and so they're going to make some rules but they shouldn't be making more rules than the american people can deal with if i think it's like three felonies a day is is what the average person commits accidentally so if and really that puts everyone in a position where at any point, the government might stick their nose into your life and say, hey, you have a massive problem now because we want to make your life a problem. Well, that's why I love Trump talking about, look, I don't know how feasible this is. I'm not an economist, but I love Trump talking about eliminating the income tax and going
Starting point is 01:19:41 to an all-tariff-based system because right now, with all of us having to pay an income tax and going to an all-tariff-based system because right now with all of us having to pay an income tax, every single one of us is at the whims of the federal government and the IRS and whether or not they decide to go after us. But I think the onus on federal revenues and taxes should be on major corporations and businesses that do business overseas. They've already got the accounting firms. They've got the best tax lawyers. But everyday people like you and I, we can't afford these guys.
Starting point is 01:20:11 And so basically we have a tax code that can be weaponized against us at any point in time for simply missing a few things on our tax returns. Do you think a consumption tax is a better option? I don't know. I really don't know i would i've heard i've seen proposals for a gross receipts tax on corporations it's like a super low flat tax that corporations have to pay on their gross receipts i just think the tax code whatever the taxes are it should be the the lowest possible rate with the widest possible base because they the error of selling, no income tax. Well, no, I'm not talking, I think I would love to get rid of the income tax too.
Starting point is 01:20:50 But the idea, like if there was like a two. Like a VAT. If there was a, well, I'm not, I'm not sure if a value added tax is the same thing that I'm thinking of. Like essentially a federal sales tax or a federal, I mean, the reason it's consumption tax is on everything, right? And if you had 1% tax on every, every dollar that was spent, right? That would, I don't know exactly what it would generate, but it would generate a considerable amount of money because our GDP is $27 trillion or something. $1 on what? 1% on every dollar spent.
Starting point is 01:21:18 On every dollar. So it's like a penny on every dollar. But our GDP is $27 right annually or something like that so that would be 270 billion it'd be additional revenues yeah something like that and it wouldn't fund the whole government but if you actually shrink the government um considerably and and have a a uh you know some kind of something like that and i don't know the number i don't know if it's one percent or two percent or whatever but point being, instead of taxing people's income and taxing the people that go out and work, tax what's spent. So that way, if you decide you're not going to spend money,
Starting point is 01:21:53 you're going to save your money. You're not paying the tax on your income. You're paying the tax only when you're actually engaging in economic activity. And I don't know the, I don't, again, I don't know the percentage or whatever, but it, to me, it seems like that would be a better, a better system than, than taxing people for going out and creating, uh, you know, creating work or, or working and having an income. So like a lot of people just, you know, we live our lives. We don't really think about how the tax code impacts our lives. It does in so many different ways. Huge. So I like where you're going with this i would what i would want to do is have this you know if i was going to do this have a national consumption tax but then give a rebate for families you get x amount of you know dollars
Starting point is 01:22:35 for a rebate on this uh for every kid you have or however you know whatever it is but you reorient the the entire country the entire economy around the family. I think doing it around individuals is just it's it's too it's too individualistic. I mean, like I said earlier, like I said earlier today, I like the idea of focusing government policy on promoting families as opposed to focusing government policy on. And this is this sounds horrible, but like and I understand that, like, you know, there are people that need help and stuff like that. But but the idea that we incentivize women having children outside of wedlock is bad. Like we need to stop doing that. We need to stop incentivizing people to have multiple children. And you you hear the stories and the anecdotes.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Oh, you know, I don't want to go and make more money because I'll lose this benefit from the government. I don't want to go and try and get another job. Or if me and my baby daddy get married, then we're going to lose this and we're going to lose that. Those kind of things incentivize single motherhood. They incentivize people to not become families and not start families. So there should be policies that incentivize families and incentivize normal, traditional male and female families. Stop focusing on the margins. Stop trying to center the margins. Stop trying to incentivize LGBT people to have whatever kind know polyamorous lifestyle they want there's no
Starting point is 01:24:06 benefit to society there's no benefit to that yeah none whatsoever it is not and to be honest with you all it all it does is is make society worse like you can sign the executive order to bring all the federal employees back to working in the office instead of remote work a lot of people actually said that that decision was anti-family because the women who were working for the federal government from home were no longer able to work from home. And people were like, OK, but we're we're paying as taxpayers, we're paying for them to basically do nothing all day that doesn't seem fair and they're like no but you're incentivizing them to stay home with their children that's a good thing
Starting point is 01:24:52 i i think that it's leftist lying i think it's leftists lying about it they lie about everything i'm telling you right wing like conservative people who are saying this is a bad thing to force federal employees back in the office because the women who work for the federal government are no longer going to be able to stay home with their kids while they work this like laptop job or whatever. I'm pretty sure if you're doing telework, you're required, at least like my organization requires it. We're small. But if you are working from home for this type of stuff, you have to child care range so they should not actually be home with their kids radar and we're and people conservatives were saying like you should just let them though yeah no that that's that's bad like you should just let them pretend to work while they take care of their kids and then we
Starting point is 01:25:37 will pay for it through our taxes if they are they married ostensibly the the one that they were referring to was okay so yeah they i would be in favor of firing them and coming up with a program for married couples to supplement the income that they would have and then actually getting rid of that job. Or because once their kids are old enough, they can not have that whatever program it is anymore. The example I was reading about was that she did have the availability for subsidized child care through her federal government job, but she made too much money to qualify for it. Okay, so I just didn't understand the argument there. I mean, I'm not 100 percent sure the argument there either. But I mean, I think that it is. Moms should just have as many fake email jobs as possible.
Starting point is 01:26:35 As long as they don't work for the federal government, I would like for them to go steal money from a corporation instead. Instead of me. Well, I mean, I think that if you're working for the federal government, you should have to actually go to work. You should actually have to work for the government. You should have to do your job. Where were all these people? Are they even living in D.C. or are they just all over the country?
Starting point is 01:27:02 I don't have any idea. But it's bad that we got to this point right like covid is is what made this happen and we should have gone back to normal as soon as we could have after covid and at some point we should go back to normal because you know if there are people that got onto this program while covid was going on if they didn't end it those say then then more people were getting onto these programs and it becomes a program that doesn't go away. It'll never end. There will always be people that are working remotely that are saying, well, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:33 I can just sign up for this because I have a kid or I want to have a kid. So I'm going to work remote and I'm going to make, you know, $100,000 or $200,000 a year working remotely. And I'm actually only going to work about, you know, 30 hours a week for the federal government we're gonna i'm gonna work on the you know it's gonna be the taxpayer dime or whatever um yeah so whereas they may people may be making that argument um i honestly i find it uncompelling i it's like luxury welfare yeah it's like look you it's bad that you're in this position but it has to end we have to we have to stop these things we can't have a system where people are working remotely and not going to work like all the
Starting point is 01:28:11 competent self-governing conscientious people out there are saying no like as soon as i started working remotely from home i got so much more done and I don't really even disbelieve what they're saying. But most people, the vast majority of people, do need to be supervised in order to get anything done. Yes. And honestly, I imagine that people that are that good at working remotely or whatever. Yeah, at that point, just own your own business. Exactly what I was going to say. They probably would be successful at whatever they ever did you wouldn't want your employees to work from home yeah it's true because i mean it's it it does seem to me that the majority of people
Starting point is 01:28:56 that work from home are not the extremely go get them kind of people they are people that are doing their best to kind of skate by you know and that's not everybody of course but people who say like i smoke pot all day and i'm the most productive person i'm not addicted yeah and i'm not addicted and either way i don't want the federal people that work for the federal government doing that i want people that work for the federal government to be like you know to be kind of like ridden by their boss being like yo are you getting this done are you getting this done i like the idea that as much as you're probably not going to get this in the federal government, but I like the idea that when Musk was going around to people at Twitter saying,
Starting point is 01:29:33 what did you get done this week? What did you get done this week? What did you get done this week? Like there should be a goal of being productive, especially in government. If you are in government and you have a job to do, there should be someone walking around saying, what did you get done this week? Elon Musk and Vivek got a lot
Starting point is 01:29:52 of flack when they were saying a couple months ago that Americans are lazy. And that was their excuse for hiring non-American labor. Well, I will say this. Americans are lazy. But we have to hire American and build up our culture and infrastructure to reverse this cultural track. We can't we can't function this way. But man, I got to tell you,
Starting point is 01:30:12 I talked to a lot of people who own businesses and the conversations are I don't know if it's always been this way, but a large majority of the people who come in for work do not want to work. Elon Musk goes in and says what did you get done this week because i bet 90 did nothing i mean there are times where there are people that i've hired for you know when we're on tour and there are people that are like they get up in the morning and they're smiling and they are you know like okay let's go and it's like it's raining and they're just like okay well let's let's get this done or it's it's whatever the weather is outside and they're like oh let's get this done and then there are people that get up and no matter what the situation is they just look
Starting point is 01:30:53 miserable the people that look miserable i don't hire a second time you know they i'm not looking to get that kind of person on the crew again when it's people that are like yo i'm gonna get this done let's go get this let's go get let's get the push on let's get the the gear out let's let's crack that trailer let's go those are the people that i'm like that dude should be hired again and if if people call me and they say hey you worked with this guy right and and what was he like like i'm not i'm not helping someone that was like dragging ass and and acting like it was a chore to get out of bed. Because to be honest with you, like there are times where if you're on a crew, there are times where it's hard work. But for the most part, it is a pretty cool job.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Like you get up at like, you know, 10, 11, you know, you get off the bus, you go and and you crack the trailer you push the stuff to stage you each person sets up their stuff and then like once three o'clock rolls around you got from like three o'clock until whatever time the band goes on to kind of you know do your own thing and you can play video games or whatever then we play and you got to you got to be busy for however long our set is an hour or whatever we get done you got to pack the stuff up and throw it in the in the bus most nights you're done you know before the show's over if unless we're headlining if we're headlining it's a little more work but even still it's a an all right gig you know so it's like and you chose to do this job that's the the at the end of the day that's the thing you chose to do this like we didn't like twist your arm to get you to come out on tour with us like you're here and you're if you're
Starting point is 01:32:29 if you're a bum out then you're making it worse for everybody on the bus we got to live with you and you're all bummed out like i don't want that and it's like that a lot of times so it's it's really hard to find people that are actually going to do the job and do the job well and actually going to seem like okay cool man i'm here to do the job if you're not here to do the job it's real obvious real quick and it's like all right i'm not seeing nearly as many of these videos anymore but you know these these a day in the life of a google employee whatever and they're usually made by like girls my age who are like recent college grads or something and i don't see these videos as much anymore but they definitely
Starting point is 01:33:09 radicalize some people to see these luxurious laptop jobs where you do like a meeting and then and then you get coffee and then maybe you have another meeting and then you have like after your drinks yeah and then you go for drinks after work or whatever you think that those were our pr departments doing that or it could it could have definitely been like an effort by the company to get more people get more like candidates to apply but i don't doubt that some of those videos were more realistic to the the picture of what it looks like for an employee. I can confirm they're real.
Starting point is 01:33:51 And I just look back at these videos that were made by Twitter employees, you know, before it was X, and I just laugh and laugh because they're not there anymore. I've been invited to Google's office like 10 years ago. Maybe not 10 years. Yeah, about 10 years ago. I used to go to Google's office all the time. Maybe like, I don't know know once a month if that and they were uh uh google and youtube youtube was at um it's that marketplace in new york man i haven't lived there in so long but uh live stream headquarters were there uh right right next to that google hq right by that market. And then YouTube was like a block away.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Man, I'd get invited to the Google office, and people are just sitting in like, I don't know how to describe it, fake little diner tables. They just get up and they go walk to the cafeteria where there's tons of free food and drink. And it's exactly like what you see in those videos. Well, George Gilder, he wrote a book with us on monetary policy, but he's like this prophet from Silicon Valley.
Starting point is 01:34:53 He wrote this original book called Men in Marriage in the 80s. And then in the 90s, he wrote this book called Life After Television. But in the book that he wrote for us, it's called The Scandal of Money. And it's a good read. And it really helped me understand the purpose of monetary policy. But he brought up the fact that there were way more mergers and acquisitions coming out of Silicon Valley than IPOs. And he detailed how Google, their entire existence was essentially buying up all their competitors
Starting point is 01:35:21 and giving them paperclips to play with. Like they suck up all the guys that are going to disrupt things, really, and they buy them out, and then there's no real innovation. There's no real disruption in the market anymore. I read a story about a guy who had an office job, and he said that his company got bought out, and he's like, I guess they didn't realize that I was still in one of their satellite offices. And so he would just show up every day, but nobody was there.
Starting point is 01:35:45 It was empty. People stopped emailing him, but he kept getting paid. So he just kept showing up, and then he had nothing to do because he was like, I have no boss. I have no idea what's going on, but I'm here, as I'm contracted to do. And he played video games all day. And part of me wonders if just we as a country have become extremely inefficient, lazy, and these corporations, all of them, are largely legally automated through HR and stuff.
Starting point is 01:36:14 So it's like an office space when that dude kept showing up to work. The stapler guy. The stapler guy. And he's like, he stopped getting paid, but he keeps showing up anyway. I think there's a difference between office jobs like that and then like the the kind of tech bro you know silicone valley jobs my ex used to work for uh um palantir and in dc and like we would go to i think it was anyway i went to the office with her and like you know they had like it was all like there were like rooms for people to sleep in they They had like a stocked pantry.
Starting point is 01:36:45 And by stocked, I mean there was booze and all the food you could imagine. They had like catering every day. And they had like this big old Lego Death Star hanging up. And all the rooms were named after like dudes from Top Gun. And like it was all, it was literally like if nerds had unlimited money and they're just like, do what you want. Like that. I mean, yeah, exactly. Exactly what it was.
Starting point is 01:37:10 They want you to live there. You know, but you see you. Well, because they were working, they were working on like defense contract stuff. If there was like something where they had to be there overnight, there were like beds and bunks and stuff like that. You know, if you had like an emergency and they needed you, they they might be like you have to stay here until this national emergency is over um but the the point is like i think that that's a significant difference between like the stuff that goes on in silicon valley and the way that because you see videos of google and how they have like you know the rest the the meditation rooms and the the stress balls and the you know they
Starting point is 01:37:41 bring puppies in and all all the stuff that they do at at at those those companies and that's real different than what you see like in office space or or you know whatever kind of like call center that's a whole different animal you know we're gonna go to super chat so if you haven't already my friends kindly smash that like button share the show with everyone you know and become a member over at timcast.com the green room uncensored show we are now increasing that members content we were bringing it back don't even know why it stopped but the green room show is back so basically when the guests show up there's a lot of behind the scenes conversation and uh mary and terry had a great conversation about only fans surrogacy that'll be up at some
Starting point is 01:38:19 point soon and then we have inspiring philosophy up the other day he was talking about last week he was talking about jordan peterson islam and a bunch of things and then we have Inspiring Philosophy up the other day. He was talking about, last week he was talking about Jordan Peterson, Islam, and a bunch of things. And then while recording, the plane crashed in Philly. So it was pretty crazy. But as a member, you get access to the Discord server. That members-only TimCast show is coming up in about 20 minutes where you as members can call in and talk to us. Plus, we are working on some documentaries.
Starting point is 01:38:41 We've got a lot of stuff in the works. It's going to be great. Let's grab your super chats and see what is up. All right. Mike C. says, we got Tim Pool gets married before GTA 6. Congrats. Yep. That's true. Tony Nagy says, congratulations, Tim.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Remember, rule number one, she's always right. You're golden then. Long life. Ha ha. Happy wife, happy life. That's right. Someone else super chatted that too. What do you make of that?
Starting point is 01:39:09 Happy wife, happy life? Yeah, this phrase that goes around. Do you think it's correct? It's misinterpreted? I think it's like tongue in cheek. Yeah. Like obviously you don't want to be bad to your wife, you know? You want to be good.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Have her be happy. That's it, you know? A lot of people just interpret it to mean like you should just simp for your wife, you know. You want to be good. Have her be happy. That's it, you know. A lot of people just interpret it to mean, like, you should just simp for your wife and do everything she tells you and be a lap dog. Nah. That's not what. I think that's an intentional misinterpretation, though. I think. Terry, when did you meet your wife?
Starting point is 01:39:38 How old were you? I was 20. I hadn't. So I met her in 2007 at CPpac in dc we were volunteering for we were volunteering for sam brownback who was a senator from kansas running for president and then we started dating on the campaign trail on iowa and um look i'll say this it's i think that that's what it's meant like when people say today, it really is more like a just shut up and just do whatever your wife says. But there is some wisdom in like dying to yourself to support your wife, right?
Starting point is 01:40:15 And sometimes that means disagreeing with her and protecting her from a mistake she's about to make or a – I don't know. I think your life is a lot better if your wife is happy. Let's take it to its logical position. If your wife is like, I want to jump off this bridge, and you are like, well, I'm not going to be happy. Whatever makes you happy, sweetie. Well, she's clearly not going to be happy for much longer. Right. So part of what makes a person happy is understanding the balance of short-term
Starting point is 01:40:40 and long-term satisfaction. The problem we have with liberals in this country is that they're all short term. Yes. They want to party, do drugs. They don't want to work. You need a balance. We have two weeks of vacation because sometimes you want to go skiing, you know, or whatever. You want to go to the Wisconsin Dells if you live in Chicago or Vegas.
Starting point is 01:41:01 There you go. Everybody likes Vegas. But you go for two weeks. You lose some money. You spend a bunch of money on stuff you don't get back. But it go. Everybody likes Vegas. But you go for two weeks, you lose some money, you spend a bunch of money on stuff you don't get back, but it's that short-term fun. But most of the year is spent
Starting point is 01:41:10 preparing for that long-term. So a happy wife is kept happy when you plan for the future, you do what you got to do, and that's what it's all about. Yeah, I agree. That means disagreeing sometimes. That means being stern and responsible.
Starting point is 01:41:21 That means doing your duty. And it also means being stern if your wife is not doing her duty as well. Well, that means doing the doing your duty and it also means being stern if your wife is not is not doing her duty as well well it means doing things even if she didn't ask right like doing the dishes cleaning a room when she you know mom's well if you're a liberal it's more about hiring consuelo to do yeah otherwise yeah if they were all these people who's going to clean your toilets uh that megan mccain line that's wonderful was that was that megan mccain oh no no no um uh that was no kelly yeah yeah sorry mixing them up was probably more offensive yeah that's probably oh man i'm a deep we're sorry
Starting point is 01:41:59 all right let's grab some more what do we have have this? The Oracle says the Dems are currently trying to break into USAID offices, and they don't have high enough clearances, LOL. Did you see Trump banned Brennan from ever going into any federal buildings? And I think Bolton. I laughed so hard when I saw that, and I was like, Elad most deeply impacted. Sorry, Elad. He loves Bolton. All right.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Captain John Rackham says, my boss's wife passed away this weekend. I've known her for 10 years. She was a beautiful, wonderful person, and she will be missed. Rip Victoria. Sorry to hear it, man. Sad to hear it.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Okay, let's go. Quantum Strange Cork says, Tim, congrats to you and Allison. You can never, ever win another argument again. Seriously, congrats. See, that's go. Quantum Strange Cork says, Tim, congrats to you and Allison. You can never, ever win another argument again. Seriously, congrats. See, that's like the weird thing. I think like, I was already referring to Allison as my wife
Starting point is 01:42:54 to anybody who asked. That's like, there's no intention to be with anybody else. Like, we're here for each other. And that's why when we got married, we were like, well, let's do the ceremony when we have time, but we'll go to the courthouse and we'll get it legal. And it's largely just about protections and the legal protections and all that stuff. But, you know, our commitment to each other
Starting point is 01:43:12 was already there. I do think that when your missions are aligned, you don't have to worry about these tropes and these claims and like sim for your wife or whatever. And it's like, I don't know. I don't really have to worry about it because like both Allison and I don't like it if there's garbage or if work isn't getting done, like there doesn't have to be an argument about it. It's look, I'm telling you, like the Bible is full of wisdom and there's all these passages about how valuable a good wife is. And it really, like if you have a good wife just the peace of mind knowing
Starting point is 01:43:46 that you're fully aligned on things she's never going to stab your back it's literally like having a guaranteed best friend if you really do marriage right you know you know what man i tell you i talk about this uh hypothetical quite a bit when chelsea handler was bragging about how she wakes up at 6 a.m does drugs and masturbates whatever, and she has no kids and she's excited. And I'm like, you're not going to be excited when you're in the hospital by yourself. Yeah. I've been, have you ever been in the hospital alone by yourself? Miserable.
Starting point is 01:44:12 It's terrible. Miserable experience. I had a kidney stone in 2014. I had to go to the hospital for a couple of days. Like they had me on all these drugs and I'm like, what do I do? And I was like, this is just life. Be a man. And this was, you know, this is 11 years ago.
Starting point is 01:44:28 So I'm like in my late 20s and I'm just like, there's no one here to make sure. At first, we didn't know. I didn't know if it was appendicitis or what was going on. So I'm being admitted to the ER
Starting point is 01:44:37 being like, well, if I die, nobody knows. That's just it. A week from now, this was in between I was leaving
Starting point is 01:44:43 Vice and going to Fusion. A week from now, they're going to call my phone, get no answer, and shrug. Never think about it again. Yeah. My parents, look, I'm an adult man, so I call my parents periodically, but not enough to where if. They would notice. Yeah. If something bad happened, then I'm like, no, you don't want to live in that experience.
Starting point is 01:45:01 There's a reason why we have families, And there's a reason why we have families when we're younger. But the U.S. has stopped doing that. I mean, I'm old to be having a family. Like, we've got problems we've got to fix. But I tell you, Chelsea,
Starting point is 01:45:14 one of the most terrifying experiences is going to be when you're admitted to the hospital and they're like, is there someone we can call? And you're like, no. So I've got, so I'm the oldest of 10 kids, right?
Starting point is 01:45:24 I'm one of these weird catholic families but um my dad got cancer got diagnosed with cancer in 2020 and they gave him like three months to live he ended up living another year but i'm telling you what like he died at home on his own bed with me and my nine siblings and my mother at his bedside, thanking God out loud for him, praying for him. Like, death is miserable. It is horrific. But, like, that's as happy of a death as you can possibly get.
Starting point is 01:45:59 You know, like all the 10 kids that you helped raise all thanking God out loud for you. Have you seen Interstellar? Yes. Yes. The ending of Interstellar when Matthew McConaughey meets his daughter, who's now older than him because of time dilation or whatever. And she's like, no, dad should watch your daughter die. I have a family and there's like 30 people in the room with her, her kids and all their
Starting point is 01:46:19 kids. And I'm like, I'm telling you, man, anybody who's been in the hospital by themselves yes you know they they they're like you don't want to you don't want to go that route you know you need you want to have people that were social beings were you in the hospital during covid no okay that was a whole other nope uh we were we were uh in at the castle at the time, and I was surrounded by friends and family. I was with Allison, of course. And then we got the magic medical treatment of monoclonal antibodies, which seemingly cured me overnight. It was nuts.
Starting point is 01:46:55 It was amazing. And, yeah, I, you know, being alone in a hospital on your deathbed is probably... That's hell. But that's what people were forced to do during the lockdowns. Oh, I know. Yep. That's absolutely... That's why Fauci needs a security detail. And there's never been a freaking apology. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:47:17 Like, no one ever apologized. No one's ever owned it. No one's gone to jail over it. It's terrible. Kenneth Hart says, Hey Tim, don't take this the wrong way, but there was no drop in quality when you took time off. It was like hearing a band you like cover a song you like. Would you do it more often with other folks like Seamus?
Starting point is 01:47:34 Solid week, Phil. Indeed. Thank you much. Seamus did fill in a week last year and I heard it went smashing. It was swimmingly. And then Phil filled in last week. The only issue we're trying to figure out is the morning show is not the same. Because it's one thing to have a group conversation.
Starting point is 01:47:50 It's another thing, my morning show is just an hour and a half of me monologuing. And so I don't know how to do that. Even right now, my mouth hurts. But it is what it is. It's not as bad as it was last week. Last week, I couldn't eat anything. I was on what I call the Jocko diet. That was where the only thing I had was a jaco protein shake and i was grimacing in pain as i
Starting point is 01:48:10 was drinking it like but uh that kept me alive and i lost three pounds skinny it's good stuff there you go it hurts too much to eat diet yeah well protein shakes are good i mean like that's what like like ensure is essentially those things that they tell like, you know, for seniors and stuff. I mean, I drink a boatload of like protein shakes myself. Do you really? Yeah, I did. I got a bunch of those.
Starting point is 01:48:36 Really? It's just easier than eating if you don't have enough time. Yeah. Why do I feel like you have enough time and you just don't feel like cooking? I'm getting home at like midnight tonight Fair enough Times like these Well it was Brian Johnson you know who he is
Starting point is 01:48:51 That guy who's going to live forever He says don't eat within two hours before going to sleep Really He says a lot of things Yeah he said have olive oil He's a vegan Why don't we listen to any of his opinions about health Because he's spending a million dollars to get his blood tested every day.
Starting point is 01:49:07 That literally just means he's crazy. That means nothing. Touche. He's like harvesting his son's blood. That's true. Weirdo. Yeah. The olive oil thing is interesting, though.
Starting point is 01:49:19 He said that a teaspoon of olive oil with every meal is like one of the most effective things you can do for anti-aging. And I was like, but olive oil is delicious. And you know, I could I'm already doing that. I know. Yeah, that's great. All right. What do we got? Jeff Rock says, not all Canadians are like that, but all Canadians don't want to be a part of the USA. We also have seen a rise of white
Starting point is 01:49:41 supremacists in Canada. What are you doing wrong? Sounds like you have of white supremacists in canadia oh what are you doing wrong sounds like you have a white supremacist government that needs to be overthrown we can help with that hey you know called usa id basilis says hey i'm an air traffic controller and i can say that maybe dei affects us in the management hiring but as, we have a staffing problem. When I got hired, there were 17K.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Now there's around 12K. Wow. Yeah, I thought that it was a problem with getting enough people to be hired. Wasn't in the Potomac crash, wasn't it like one guy was at two stations?
Starting point is 01:50:22 Yeah, they had someone that was running the... It's supposed to be one person for airplanes and one for helicopters. crash wasn't it like one guy was at two stations yeah they had someone that was running the it's supposed to be running one person for aircraft for airplanes and one for helicopters and uh there was one person running both of them have you seen the new footage of that crash though that that that chopper flew right in that plane yep like there was it was it was like the scene from austin powers where the steamroller's coming and the guy's 200 feet away going, nah! And then just slowly coming. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:47 You're rough. I mean, I'm kidding. It was brutal, but a lot of people are now saying that they think it might have been intentional. Like whoever was flying it may have been mentally ill. Yeah, I was about to say before you said it. I just don't know how he didn't see the plane. It was a woman.
Starting point is 01:51:02 Oh, it was a woman that was flying it? Yeah, it was a lesbian woman. I believe, right? Oh. The jokes just write themselves now. Oh, we're not being offensive. I'm just stating a fact. Yeah, they've like scrubbed her whole like online history.
Starting point is 01:51:14 I believe it was a lesbian woman who was flying the plane. I'm not making any implications about that. You guys are. I didn't make any. I don't know why. That's Phil. That's all Phil. What are people in the chat saying?
Starting point is 01:51:23 Why are you saying that? I'm just stating a fact. Actually, I'm fairly certain i'm not entirely sure but i heard that people were saying that it was like some lesbian woman or something you know sad that happened but the the implication that people are bringing up with that video is that she was um she didn't want to be alive any longer and i'm not saying that's true which is what people say on the internet you know i i try to be a bit more respectful. It's a terrible accent. A lot of people
Starting point is 01:51:47 lost their lives and we don't know. So, all right, where are we at? We'll grab some more super chats here. Anthony T. Schrade
Starting point is 01:51:55 says, my wife and I are trying to raise five daughters in this crazy world hoping and praying for a positive outcome for our country
Starting point is 01:52:01 and world, MAGA and MAHA. I hope you live on a large piece of land with chickens and goats and maybe a mini cow. Because one thing that can really help you out is making your own food. Man, gardens are
Starting point is 01:52:14 fantastic. I gotta tell you, we don't have one anymore, but when we did, I love it. I wake up in the morning, I walk outside, I grab a zucchini, a handful of cherry tomatoes, then I grab some eggs right from the chickens, right from their butts because they're sitting down on them. Fresh and warm. They're still warm.
Starting point is 01:52:30 And then you walk in and you just, boom, you throw it in the pan and you got breakfast. Don't need nothing else. Milk. But I don't have a cow, so. You a raw milk person? No. No? Why not?
Starting point is 01:52:44 I am not a raw milk person i i think i completely agree with matt walsh oh you think it's disgusting i don't think it's disgusting i don't have no problem with people who want to drink raw milk i'm just like pasteurization doesn't bother me i don't like the generic store-bought plastic carton milk i would prefer like organic farm fresh but pasteurized is fine you're pasteurizing out all of the enzymes or whatever so they say for you you're also pasteurizing i don't even i don't have no dog in this fight i don't even drink milk i'm just like i find it funny that people care so much yeah i actually don't drink a lot of milk at all i don't either child yeah right raw milk has this like taste to
Starting point is 01:53:22 it though yeah it's good it's like a farm you have to get used to it you have like, taste to it, though. Yeah, it's good. It tastes like a farm. You have to get used to it. You have to get used to it. But, like, yeah. European milk tastes different. I haven't had European milk. Yeah. Well, it's because the thing, whatever we do to the cows here, I think a lot of people
Starting point is 01:53:35 are probably just drinking milk from, like, factory farmed, like, corn fed cattle. You know? Tastes different. Well, and who knows? I mean, look, they have the uh they have all those chemicals they're injecting those cows with and we know that they have chemicals that can make you know men who identify as women lactate so like you don't know what the hell they're putting i i i there's there's some some questions about whether that's it's not milk it's not
Starting point is 01:54:01 that's not milk that's some weird abomination. Hormone secretion. Or something. No, there's no way that's true. Yes. Yeah. Men take female hormones to induce lactation. Yeah, it's not. But they don't produce milk.
Starting point is 01:54:15 I would not drink it. Mary, do not drink it. They produce some kind of like milk precursor. I forgot what it's called. Colostrum is the first like batch of breast milk after a woman gets birth. It's like thicker though and, though, and something. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:26 Yeah. Like, they call it liquid gold. Not whatever you're talking about. No. It's coming out of a man's nipples. I don't believe that for a second. That's disgusting. I think without hormones, men can actually lactate as well through physical inducement.
Starting point is 01:54:41 There was, like, some, I can't remember which, it was probably, like, a Libs of TikTok thing that was posting about it. I don't know. I'm not probably like a Libs of TikTok thing that was posting about it. I don't know. I'm not drinking it. I'm not like my kids drinking it. I'm not drinking it. Man milk. That's what we call it.
Starting point is 01:54:53 All right. All right. What do we got? The text says, you all keep talking about the work from home and bashing people who do it, but none of you have experienced it. No, we're not all lazy. Do nothing is getting paid. I go to the office and get on Zoom, same as at home. I am anti-work from home, 100%.
Starting point is 01:55:10 It is destructive to industry, destructive to culture, and destructive to business. It's antisocial, right? Like I kind of like going to work and seeing my coworkers. I think it's important to be able to stop into someone's office if I need something or they can stop into my office. I just don't know how you build a successful team. Like at a minimum organizations and companies and agencies, there, there should be some type of team there. And I don't know how you build a team when
Starting point is 01:55:34 everyone's remote and isolated. Yeah. When you, when you're all in the same place and you go to lunch together or you go to lunch with people that are you know with different groups of people this you know during the week and stuff you there's a lot of like ideas and a lot of exchanges that you miss out on like the the i forget what uh i've heard a lot of anecdotes about this but i don't have a specific one but there's there's just this this this familiarity with people and and you miss out on like maybe you you go to, maybe you go out after work to go get dinner together with your friends or everyone's going, Oh, we're going here to grab lunch. Those kinds of things. A lot of, um, a lot of ideas are shared in a lot of, a lot of, uh, you know, a lot of things can, can, can come from that, you know, things that are beneficial
Starting point is 01:56:23 to the team, the to the to the jobs that you're you're working on together and stuff so i i agree you should like going to work is important and i think that like even in like my field when you when it comes to like writing songs like you can write songs over the over the internet now you can email parts and come up with ideas and send other people ideas and stuff but one of the things that we used to do with the band is like, we would always say, no, you can't say no to anyone's idea.
Starting point is 01:56:49 You have to try it. You can say you don't like it after you've tried it, but you can't say, no, we're not going to try it because there's been so many times where like we had tried an idea and two people talking, don't always understand what the other person's saying. And sometimes you'll try an idea and it'll go bad
Starting point is 01:57:05 but that'll make a third person say oh that made me think of this try doing this and like that kind of creative stuff you can't fake and you can't do it unless you're all in the same room so there's a lot of people nowadays that write music that way over the internet and stuff like that but there's all i do think that there's value being in the same room with the same people whether it be writing music or working together that kind of stuff just just spontaneously happens they say you are the summation of the five people who surround you when you work remotely you are surrounded by no one you are watching tv probably the office i don't know netflix got rid of that and someone said that i'm working from home right now i'm not this i don't live in this building i'm not
Starting point is 01:57:45 and uh so what i what i find largely with the remote work stuff is like it's it's basically what phil's saying if there's something a work a project needs to be done maybe maybe we want to film a documentary remote work never gonna happen you put 10 people in a room they're all hanging out someone says something to the person they have a conversation someone overhears it those spontaneous conversations don't happen remote right a zoom meeting will never accomplish that dude literally we've come up with so many ideas for things that we've done where it's like somebody was walking past someone else in the kitchen and they made a joke and they were like hey actually what if we what if we actually did bake pizzas today it's like oh man let's do a thing where we get, oh, let's go.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Never happens remote. So tolerance for remote work is limited. There are some jobs that are fine based on certain limitations, obviously, but for the most part I think it's bad. Let's go. Let's get some more super chats in here. Oh, YouTube froze. There we go.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Yep, figured. YouTube likes to crash all right yeah it always happens let's see ren says will canada still have free health care without the u.s wasn't uh trudeau proposing like covid level recovery efforts if the sanction if the tariffs went in place they were going to like give guaranteed incomes to people and they were like going to go into emergency mode really i didn't hear that no so i think trump should keep the tariffs on the democrats right now are saying that trump caved they're saying that trump gave up i think that that i mean they're going to say that regardless like they're there they have nothing obviously it's dumb because trump issued a letter being
Starting point is 01:59:23 like because of these particular issues fentanyanyl and immigration, tariff. And Mexico and Canada are like, okay, we'll alleviate those things, these measures. And Trump said, okay, one month pause. And they're like, ha-ha, Trump lost. And it's like, what? Trump literally said these issues must be addressed. They addressed them, and now it's off. It's just cope.
Starting point is 01:59:42 That's all it is, just massive cope. Maybe a little bit of seethe? Yeah, maybe a little bit of seethe. I'm sure, actually, I think it's a lot of seethe and a little cope. That's all it is, just massive cope. Maybe a little bit of seethe? Yeah, maybe a little bit of seethe. I'm sure, actually, I think it's a lot of seethe and a little cope. They're angry. They're upset. Those tariffs, though, on Canada are no joke. In Toronto, I forget the name of the mayor, but he, right now in Toronto,
Starting point is 01:59:56 they have 400,000 people in the surrounding area or whatever that are unemployed. They said if those tariffs go into effect, it would be another 400,000 to 600,000 people that are unemployed. Wow. So it would be devastating. And again, it goes back to that 40% of their GDP. You know, I just got to say, I don't care about Canada. It's not my responsibility. I'm with you.
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