Timcast IRL - TUCKER CARLSON 2028 IS HAPPENING

Episode Date: August 6, 2026

On this episode Tim & the crew are joined by Jack Posobiec to discuss Tucker Carlson's Potential 2028 Presidential Bid  Left and Right are ALL FAKING For Attention $20 Burrito Sparks MASSIVE Debate ...Over Economy   SUBSCRIBE TO THE NEW SHOW - https://www.youtube.com/@timpool Do not wait for another IRS letter or a frozen bank account. Call (866) 686-1535 or visit http://tnusa.com/TIM SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ GET OUR MERCH - https://merch.timcast.com/ Join - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLwNTXWEjVd2qIHLcXxQWxA/join Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) | @trashhouserecords (YT) Guest: Poso Podcast available on all podcast platforms! TUCKER CARLSON 2028 GOES WILD | Timcast IRL For advertising inquiries please email sponsorships@rumble.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So the progressive one in Michigan last night, it is still a little too close to call, but doesn't matter because the establishment Democrat called and conceded. So, hey, open and shut case, right? Now, I'm going to go ahead and argue that's actually good news for Republicans because the polling that we've seen from many of the liberal institutional media outlets is that about two to one, when facing a socialist or progressive candidate, moderates will choose to go Republican. But here's where it gets real interesting.
Starting point is 00:00:28 It is now being reported simply because, so Tucker Carlson has this meeting with, you know, Massey, MTG and a few others, Joe Kent. And this is taken to mean that Tucker is preparing a third party or a presidential run in 2028. We don't know for sure, but it is being reported by numerous outlets that it appears Tucker is preparing to run for office, which is funny because he's hinted at it several times. many people have predicted that he might and now the reporting is finally landed. Tucker 2028. I mean, people were talking about him being the VP back before J.D. Vans got chosen. So we shall see. We're going to talk about that. Plus, we got a bunch of really interesting stories.
Starting point is 00:01:11 One that was kind of overlooked in the past week. In Japan, people are protesting the construction of a mosque. Now, that is, I watched this video because Japanese people are so like, I don't know, what's the right? studious and calm to see this video of people just violent rioting, just angry over a mosque, I thought was particularly interesting. And then I thought to myself, why are they building a mosque in Japan? This is it. This is crazy. We'll talk about it and more.
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Starting point is 00:03:49 with everyone you've ever met in your life. Joining us tonight about this and so much more is Jack Posobic. It's going on, man. Been a little while, been, been some time. I think the last time I was here, you weren't even here. So I said, Tim's back, I got to come back.
Starting point is 00:04:02 We got to bring, we got to get the whole crew together because it turns out that there's a socialist revolution going on in the United States. You can see it in Wisconsin, you can see it in Michigan last night, and it's like, wow, who could have possibly seen it? Who could possibly have predicted the rise of communism and socialism in the United States of America, or literally all of us, but only the United States of America,
Starting point is 00:04:21 all of us, but only one of us wrote the book. And here it is, Ian. Here it is, Ian. Yes, it is the book Unhuman Secrets of Comics Revolutions and How to Crush Them and, look, guys, you know, I wish I was wrong. With voting, right? But here we are.
Starting point is 00:04:36 You know, voting is one of the tactics. There are many. Voting. And look, you know, this is something where, and obviously we'll talk about on the show, but, you know, this is two years ago, we put this book out and we said if, If this is not heated, then we are going to get into a bad place in our country.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And unfortunately, I think we're getting closer to that place. We've got the president. We've got Trump. And he is doing a lot. But at the same time, these guys are coming. They are absolutely coming. And they are getting feral. The sentiment is bubbling.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I feel it as well, Jack. Yeah. I decided to wear these synthetic disiannon. Dysonian and demon goggles. Dyson. Breaking out the red wavelengths. Dyson? Are they Dyson goggles?
Starting point is 00:05:22 I'm not sure. Yeah. The vacuum. But basically what we're going to be talking about tonight is borderline demonic. I just want to make sure that no one incident. That's why I've got unintentionally something is right here. Yeah. We'll go easy and slow, Jack.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I mean, you talk demonic. I saw that Paris Hilton video last night. I didn't watch it. Jeez. We pulled up not knowing what it was and played on the uncensored portion of the show. Oh, wow. It was really bad. Well, on the uncensored portion.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yeah, yeah, but still, I mean, that's rough. I mean, that's not a demonic possession. It's real. It was just on X. I was like, oh, it's an ex-video. And I planned out. Oh, my. There were like three of them. Yeah, there's three of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:56 It started on TikTok. And that, yeah, that was, I mean, but, but no, you're 100%. Demonic activity is absolutely on the rise. I think all these things are connected. And it's tough. Didn't he say that he thought demons were after him a while ago? Someone, someone mentioned that. Wouldn't, it'd be clearly right if he said that.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I thought he had said like he recently had some kind of like transcendent, like, God reaching out to him thing, which made it even weirder. Maybe it wasn't God. Yeah. I think in order to destroy demons, you have to become a demon for a brief moment. And so they're like, don't fight demons too much because you'll get lost in it. So I just want to make sure that as we pass through hell, we come out the other side. You don't want to fight demons without invoking Christ.
Starting point is 00:06:36 So if you're trying to fight demons on your own, then you're what you're doing by engaging with the demons, you're letting the demon in. Ian can do it. You know what Ian reminds me of wearing those glasses? This guy. It's literally just a picture of Ian. I don't. That's how I feel. What are we looking at?
Starting point is 00:06:54 It's a picture of Ian. Two monocles. It's the bad guy from Men and Black 3. Oh, yeah, it is. Oh, wow. Yeah, Jermaine Clement played him. That's what Charles was saying before the show, too. You looked like the guy from...
Starting point is 00:07:05 He was identifying this guy. And he's, when he takes his glasses off, of course, he has deep, soulless black pits where his eyes should be. Doesn't he have, like, teeth or something where his eyes are? Yeah, and he has a little spider monster that can crawl out of his hand. Wicked. Yeah. Fortunately, I'm just pretending to be like that. I'm here to help.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Are you really? Yeah, dude. I'm here to help. I think because, okay, the human aura, I believe it's a real thing. What I think it is is the light refracting through the gas that's going in and out of your skin, your skin's porous. So when light refracts through it, you see a color depending on how oxygenated your body is because the gas will be different oxygenation levels.
Starting point is 00:07:39 The more oxygen is the blue array is. And when you open up a certain chakra point, a blue mist, a blue aura comes off because that's your sweat evaporating. Hardcore. And then when you open the final gate of death, it turns red. because it's blood. Oh, I guess that's one way to look at it. But the problem is, if your oars red, other people will look like they have red oras.
Starting point is 00:07:58 You die once you open the gate of death. It's when it goes black. That's what it's really dangerous. Did you guys introduce yourselves? I'm Phil. Hi. What's up? Yeah, Carter here and Ian.
Starting point is 00:08:08 It's probably more interesting to be honest. Here's the news from wired.com. Maga is in turmoil over Tucker Carlson's possible. 2028 presidential bid. I don't think they're in turmoil. What's these ridiculous? I just, I'm, God. There's so much turmoil! There's so much turmoil!
Starting point is 00:08:24 Everybody's liling? Here's the post. Tucker says Maga was betrayed. We all were. It's time for a new path forward. More tomorrow night at 6 p.m. Eastern. Marjor Taylor Green posted this. We said no more foreign wars.
Starting point is 00:08:36 We meant it and supported Donald Trump because he made that promise. But he's betrayed us all. Our commitment is America first for all Americans, right, left, and center. The movement has begun. You know what I'm ready to just say no to everybody. I'm just done. Donald Trump fired 59 Tomok missiles. in Assyria in his first term.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Miriam Adelson funded to what, like $100, $150 million Trump's second run. These people are all lying. I'm just sick of it. I'm sick of the pretend. Like, every one of those people knows exactly what was going on with Trump's campaign and what was happening in the Middle East. Don't get me wrong. Nobody thought we were going to be entrenched in this long, drawn out Hormuz conflict.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I get that. But the idea that it was not in your mind, oh, we're betrayed heaven. How could this have happened? It's like Tucker and his brother on his show, he said, Tucker says, I'm sorry, I didn't know. And his brother says, maybe that money from Miriam Adelson meant something. And then Tucker goes, ha ha ha, because they all knew what Miriam Adelson's money meant. So spare me the lies and the manipulations from everybody. Liberals doing it.
Starting point is 00:09:38 They're doing it. I'm not interested in living in your fake reality. Tucker posted a video, an hour and 40 minute video at 8. So this happened. He said at 6 p.m. last night. So that would mean today. So he posted it last night So did what was he not do
Starting point is 00:09:53 It just it just went up at It was it well I Right went up Yeah went up just now went up His announcement And it will all I don't know what it is It's an hour
Starting point is 00:10:02 Oh because it was um It's a episode And he says our political It was collapse into Pereira This is including Changes coming here's what America should do I think that I think that it was paywalled at 6pm
Starting point is 00:10:12 And now this is the public announcement So indeed Which is that he might run for president I don't know Thank God his hands announcement of what America should be is sponsored by Angel Studios. And a shout to Americanfinancing.net who also sponsors this show. This is, we have no beef with them. We like American.
Starting point is 00:10:31 The whole like America's crumbling, blah, blah, blah, firstly, fix the economy. If you want to fix it, stop complaining. But Jack, what do you think about this Middle Eastern conflict? Do you think it's inevitable and that it has to happen or you think it's a bland mistake? Which? This Iranian horse. That's inevitable. No, I mean, do you think it's inevitable? Are you saying that I think it's inevitable that the United States and Iran get into a conflict? If like Tucker came in and was like, we're going to fix it now. We're withdrawing all of our forces from the Iranian front.
Starting point is 00:10:56 They wouldn't fix anything. I don't think it would fix anything either. I wonder what you're taking on it is too. Well, I mean, you know, 2020, it's a long time away. So I don't, I have to imagine that whatever's going on now would be quite different, you know, a year and a half from now. If Trump were to escalate, for example, we could be in a massive ground war. for example, in 2028. I don't think that's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I'm just saying that, you know, it could. But it seems to me like the deal is probably going to be what's going to happen here. And there may be a new traffic separation scheme where there's like one Omani route to the south, like a northern route and a southern route or something like that. But, you know, I don't think that, I certainly don't think that hostilities are inevitable, no. You mean like a northern and southern trade route south? Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:11:44 The waterway? Yeah, because it, because it, because it, So there's territorial waters there. If you look at it, one is Iran, one is Oman. And of course, it's been governed by the United Nations Law of the Sea Convention. And so as an international transit waterway. And so, but effectively what's been going on. So effectively, in the past, it was just sort of open, right?
Starting point is 00:12:05 But there was only dredged in the center because the large tankers weren't able to get through with like the large hole, especially when it's full. So it's going to be lower. And so with the super tankers. But now the Omanis have kind of cleared out a route that's completely to the south. And because they call it the hugging Oman route. And the reason that that matters is because it doesn't stray into Iranian waters at all. And so they're saying, hey, if this thing doesn't go into Iranian waters, what's your, you know, what is your claim for messing with the shipping?
Starting point is 00:12:35 Well, Iran, of course, is saying, like, well, we want to control all shipping. And we want to control all trade through that. And so what seems to be happening, at least as far as I know, I haven't, you know, I don't have any direct information as to the current negotiations that are taking place. But what seems to be happening is this sort of like dual route scenario, like you say, like a northern route, southern route. Okay, well, that's extremely promising. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I hope so. Yeah. And by the way, that's also why oil futures, you know, went down, I think, to like $75 a barrel today. Yep. because on the backs of these talks. I applaud Tucker for announcing that he might be running if that's what he did, maybe in the future. Well, I'd like to know what we're reacting to, yeah, before we say anything.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I always support Joe Kent. I don't think that his podcast episode today is an announcement that he's running for office. If he announced he's running, I feel like that would have come out of the payside. No, no, no, it's just, this has been the narrative for some time. And with the photo from Marjorie Taylor Green, the media is running with the Tucker Carlson's preparing a bid. No, no, no, I know that, you know, it's been sort of, out there. This is probably laying the foundation for some kind of run or to be an advisor on someone's
Starting point is 00:13:44 campaign, but he's just laying out this is what I think should happen. And that probably aligns with Massey and with Kent and with Martyrgy. Because I actually thought it would be more likely that Massey would announce a run. Like I thought that would be more. Yeah, I know. Messi's not going to, he doesn't have presidential X factor. I'm not saying that he should or shouldn't. I'm just saying that he's been a politician.
Starting point is 00:14:13 He's run for office. Tucker's never run for anything before. So it just doesn't seem... Who do you guys think actually would have the best chance? The politician would be the one to do it. Because I don't think Massey could win. I think out of all of them, Tucker probably has the best chance because of name recognition. Are you saying, excluding J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio?
Starting point is 00:14:39 I'm talking about out of just the people that we're talking about. Like, who could win, like, who could actually convince the American people? Probably Tucker Carl's. Yeah, I would say that. I mean, he's obviously a better communicator. But, you know, the thing is that elections never happen in a vacuum, right? So if they're up against J.D., there's no question. Like, J.D. wins.
Starting point is 00:14:58 There's just obvious. You think they win against Marco Rubio if they make it the weird, the America First, anti-war and Marco Rubio's neocon? I think ultimately the real question is does this create a Ross Perrault situation. So Ross Perrault runs in 1992. He gets about 18% of the vote. And then that effectively blocks George H.W. Bush from re-election. And then Clinton gets in with having only won about 42%.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Or AOC gets in this time. Which, well, yeah, yeah, I'm just talking about that 92. That Ross Perot thing was crazy. Which, by the way, the Democrats never bring that up whenever they attack the electoral college, the fact that the way that Bill Clinton won was not the popular vote. He was way below 50%. Yeah, but the literally only almost 40%. To your point, that is like the nightmare situation, right? AOC's running and whether people like her or not, whether people, obviously I would never vote for or whatever, people are going to freak out. But she's an extremely skilled politician and she's got a
Starting point is 00:15:57 lot of charisma. If she's running as the Democrat and then you have to split the Republican ticket between, you know, Tucker's party and whoever is kind of the establishment or the MAGA candidate, however you want to conceive of it. I think that AOC runs away with it then. I think I'll just throw out there. I don't know we haven't really talked about him yet. I don't know if we're going to in a separate topic or whatever. But I think that Abdul Al-Sayed, I think that if he wins in November, he runs as for president.
Starting point is 00:16:27 His name already is making me, and I'm not racist, but that just knowing how people think, you're in a guy named Abdul. You literally have said you're a race realist. Barack Hussein Obama? No, he saw race real. His name was Hussein Obama? I don't think he would have been. Did you guys see in Vegas,
Starting point is 00:16:41 they mentioned that cop whose name was like Albed or something and then everyone started booing? No, I didn't. There was a cop who got killed in line of duty the other day. When they mentioned his name, because it was an Arabic name, people started booing.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I don't want to talk crap about this guy, Jack that you're talking about because he might be a phenomenal human being worth worth overriding my prejudice. Well, I'd like to talk crap about him if I may. Sidelines. Oh, you do? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:02 What's his story? What's this guy? Well, he's a fake doctor for one. Fake doctor. A big old fake doctor. Oh. Well, yeah, he went to medical school. If I have this down correctly, he went to medical school, but then never completed any of, like, his residency requirements, never got a license and kind of runs around portraying himself as a doctor.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yet he never actually practiced as a doctor. Huh. He got his license, but he never practiced. He didn't get a license. Oh. Didn't get, because you have to do all this stuff. You have to do the, you have to do the. years of stuff. You have years of additional stuff. You can't just go to school and then not become a doctor. It's like he finished the school and decided it was too much work for him because he's lazy and decided that he would kind of like go into politics. It's totally going to be Rubio Vance versus Buttigieg AOC. Yeah, I could see. I do think that Buttigieg's name will be up there, you know, as someone's vice president. It seems like he's making those moves. But I just say that I don't discount a guy like El Sayed that if he wins for Senate and keep him.
Starting point is 00:18:01 mind that we had a guy named Obama who won as a senator in, uh, in the Midwest, and he'd only been there for two years, and he ran for president, and he won. And he won, and his name was, when, when Obama got elected, I remember I was watching the TV. And, uh, what, what, what, what year was it? It was 2008? 2008? 2000, no, no, it wasn't, he didn't, he didn't win the Senate in 2008. He won the Senate in 2006. Oh, and he famously spoke at the 2004, R and, or the 2006, or the 2006, or the 2006, election when he won, he was asked, will you now run for president? Literally, he had not been in federal elected office. He had just gotten elected, Senator elect, and they were like, will you run for president now?
Starting point is 00:18:42 In 2004, my roommate. The media was just gushing, gushing over him. I lived in Chicago in 2003 to 2005, and my roommate was like, he's going to be president one day. In 2004, I was like, who is this guy? He's like, he's just so awesome, dude. He's a community organizer. He's going to be great. I'm like, really?
Starting point is 00:18:58 Okay. Here's what I want to say to you, Jack. What are you going to say? We're going to say. Politics is completely fake and everyone's lying. Wait, are you telling me politics is fake and gay? Everyone. What?
Starting point is 00:19:08 I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I want you to look at this here tweet from Chris Martinson. Oh, I saw this tweet. This was fun. Jack Posobic says, I have a chart. Immigration is going up. Everything else is going down.
Starting point is 00:19:20 And you are correct. 100%. What an incredible chart? It's a meme. It represents an idea. It is not literal. What did Chris Martinson say? Why is it that Jack Posobit keeps conflating immigration with migration?
Starting point is 00:19:34 What does that mean? I'm, I'm out of loss here. I think he meant illegal immigration. Well, so I get what he means, though, because so immigration, inherently in the word, you would think, well, that's legal immigration because, of course, that means you've gone through a process. Otherwise, it's an invasion. You know, otherwise he's saying, he's like, I don't know his voice, but I imagine it sounds like this. It seems intentional or ignorant to the point that he should stop posting and dragging down the collective IQ, which is really interesting because actually it's mass migration that is dragging down the collective IQ of the United States.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Well, to be fair, it's actually bringing up the average IQ. Go on. So when stupid people come in, the IQ is the average of the body. So if you bring in, if you have 100 smart people and they can all like, so IQ is relative to the body itself. So you have a group of people and we say their IQ relative to neighboring countries is 110. Then you bring in a bunch of people who are 90 IQ. They go, oh, but wait, now the relative body itself. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:45 So now what we have to do is we have to lower the standard of 100 represents the average. 100 is going to go down lower. So if you need to be able to solve like a quadratic equation, which is not particularly difficult, I guess. but to, in order to have like a strong IQ, now it's like, you have to know how to like water a plant. And now it's like, hey, he put the star in the star hole. That's 100 IQ. Everyone in America's IQ goes up. It's like, it's like when you go back and you look at those, you know, this was an eighth grade test in 1910. And you're like, they're like, they're like, translate this into Greek. Yeah. Yeah. And it's kind of amazing. No. And it's, and it's funny because guys like Chris Martinson
Starting point is 00:21:27 and how our totally, just totally ignorant of what's actually happening in reality. Just totally ignorant and stupid. Because we are bringing in stupid people. When he says you're dragging down the collective IQ, he's calling you very smart. He's saying that you're so smart, your IQ is so high, it forces the average.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Yeah, I'm, I'm throwing the average off. Yeah, exactly. Shame on you. So everyone's IQ number is going down because it's harder to maintain a high level of an- Doesn't actually understand how average I thought Chris was very, very articulate and kind of a pioneer during COVID. He was really outspoken. No, he's fake. It's all fake. You had them on the show. I understand. I understand. At least one.
Starting point is 00:22:07 It's just this is fake. Like this, this Tucker Carlson world. It's all fake. And I think Trump's in on it too. I think it's all fake. I'm in the car with Tucker. Tucker calls Trump on the phone and they're laughing together and giggling. Granted, it was a year and a half ago. But still, I mean, this is, this is. I will say that I've seen. And I don't know, Chris. I know. I'm spoken to Chris. And, you know, I mean, I can just tell his level of IQ by reading this. And, and, but I will say, though, I've been in like the Congress, right? And in, in the Hall of Congress, when you go to where the media row is basically set up in, in the gallery, that you can see these, they'll all be standing next to each other. But one's on Fox, one's on CNN, one's on MSNBC.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And you can see these congressmen, Congressmen, whatever, and they'll be on the shows. and they're just blasting each other. It's just lighting each other up, red meat, blue meat, right? All the rest. Then the camera, well, I guess, I guess blue soy. And then the cameras go off. And they're like, hey, it's so good to see you. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:23:11 And, like, they kind of hug. And you're like, what, what just happened? We have, it's like the curtain comes down. We'll have, like, Brian Shapiro on the show, which is notably hostile dialogue sometimes. Shapiro, he's known for being, like, aggressive as hell. him and Phil blow up at each other and have, but afterwards we'll hang out. Well, a bunch of us. And but like, we're transparent about it. It's not like we pretend to hate each other and then hang out.
Starting point is 00:23:35 No, but like the thing, the thing is when we're sitting at this table with someone like Brian and he's saying Trump did bad thing that Trump did not do and we're arguing, when the show's over, we're no longer talking about that to the temperature comes down. However, I will stress, then I will be sitting at a poker table with Brian and it's almost the same thing. He'll be at the table. Like, you know, like I roll the punches. So like when we have on the show, like I'll laugh at I don't care if you make fun of Trump. It's just what is true is and what is fake is fake. So when he says something that's not true,
Starting point is 00:24:01 like we're saying at the poker table, I start talking about gun control for which he knows nothing about. It's the same thing. We're at it again. I blocked him on X. Again. He said he loves you, by the way. I just think, you know, every day I watch this stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:14 And it was interesting during COVID because a lot of podcasts had nothing to talk about because nothing was happening. Because we were all locked down. It was the same story almost every single day. And now we're getting that. same thing again and people are so desperate for there to be something to talk about. It's this. I'll tell you what's really what's much more interesting. I was watching body camera videos today. I love watching body camera. It was like some dudes on a motorcycle were evading the cops.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And then when the cops, he like fled the cops and then came back and taunted them, then sped off again. And then the helicopter came out. And then he was screwed. And turns out he was like a 16 year old kid. And he's screaming like, call my mom. And they're like, nope, you're going to prison. Asmond watches a ton of those. Now, he reacts to a ton of those. People used to say that Asmigold. Well, yeah, because it's way more interesting to watch regular people like falling on skis than it is to talk about, like, listen, this is my point.
Starting point is 00:25:09 These, this beef, these arguments, it's make-believe because they're trying to convince you to watch them. That's all. I've been into farming. I know it's like, what? You planted anything? Some microgreen, some broccoli. I got an idea.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I got an idea. I figured it out. we know what we need to make. We need to make body camera videos, but it's like the cops are chickens and the criminals are chickens. And so you'll get that voice. You ever watch those videos
Starting point is 00:25:35 where it's like the true crime voice and it's like... Yeah, he's like narrating over the top. It'll be like the police officers pulled the man over. They didn't expect what would happen next. And the car like deals out. We got to make these.
Starting point is 00:25:46 And then it's like, it'll be like a chicken body camera and you'll go like... And then the other chicken will plot a knife and like swing at the... Make West Virginia farming fun again, man. If we can inspire the world to start farming. I mean, that's the healing.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Like, you really want to heal the planet. And somebody, can somebody AI make chicken cops? You know why I love farming right now, actually? Because I've been so indoctrinated with instant gratification. I'm so used to, like, push a button and see outcome that planting a seed and not seeing it for like a day, but it's still, it's still growing. It's so slow, you know, and there's this miraculous reward with patience and diligence. That's, no, that's, that's what you're doing is you're rewiring your dopamine receptors.
Starting point is 00:26:25 He's not fun. farming. He's not even gardening. No, but no, no, I, but I, I get that. But what I'm saying is awesome. There's, there is a difference. There is a difference between being locked in on social media all day and looking for that instant gratification. You're like, why is chat GPT still loading? Why is GROC still loading? I need it now. I need it now. What do you mean? I hit my usage limit. What? Turn up the data center, you know, I need this immediately, why would you render versus, you know, having the patience that it takes for a slow, gradual release of dopamine. I personally don't have the patience for gardening or farming. My wife loves gardening because she's more into nurturing and
Starting point is 00:27:06 she's more into growing things. And so, you know, that's why when, you know, when one of her flowers blooms, she has a huge response to it. And it is more fulfilling than just like pulling up an image of a flower on a phone because it's real. Yeah. My mom has been, my mom grew, up fairly poor in South Carolina and she always had a garden because they were supplementing their, you know, their nutrition with that and stuff. So I, she always had a garden in, in our backyard when I was growing up. So, like, there'd always be like vegetables. We'd just go out there and grab them and stuff. Even still, you know, my mom's in her 70s and every year come March, she's planting stuff to put under the lights so that way when May comes, she can
Starting point is 00:27:46 get it out into the actual raised beds that she still has. She has no grass in her yard. It's all raised beds and stuff. but it is a different kind of, you know, a different kind of reward when you're, you know, searching for that dopamine hit when you're scrolling or whatever, as opposed to you, like, spending time out in the, you know, outside. You have to weed and stuff. Make sure the, the beds don't get overgrown with garbage and, you know, all that stuff that goes along with gardening.
Starting point is 00:28:14 The reward is different. I still don't have kids, but I imagine it's sort of similar to watching a kid grow up because Is it not instant planting and raising a garden? I don't know about it. I don't think so. No, no, no. I, what you're saying in a meta sense is correct. It's that it's the process of nurturing, right?
Starting point is 00:28:36 Are they totally different things? Of course, right? But it's also, it's caring about something that's outside yourself, that's other than yourself. It's putting that the time and effort in. And it's also, it's partially it's a responsibility to duty too, right? I just, you have to. I've had a garden before.
Starting point is 00:28:52 You have to garden your powers. And maybe I would say to an extent there's an overlap, but it's like a garden is 0.01% of the feeling. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, I'm not saying it's the same thing. No, they're just like, yeah. But, you know, if like a grizzly bear came to my garden,
Starting point is 00:29:10 I'd just watch and be like, look at him go. Look. And if a grizzly bear, I'd be like, I am going to fight this bear. I might get involved. I am going to fight this bear and probably die. I'll tell you what they're watching. But that is, here's, here's, Here's how it's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Because when you, when I see my kid hit a double in the playoff game, that's watching the flower bloom. You know, when I see my son being able to, you know, bang out 10 pull-ups on the monkey bars and then flip upside out and flip down, that's watching the flower bloom. And it does take longer, but the release is so much sweeter. Yeah, with animals, there's the animal husbandry. that's the term of like raising and caring for animals. Husband. I went to the etymology of the term. It means house-bound. So house-bond.
Starting point is 00:30:00 House-bond. You take with your wife or your animals, you know, you become their animal. You husband to them, basically. That's what Tim's been doing with you all this time. I'm domesticated as a result, if you can't tell. Tim, is he completely domesticated at this point? No. It's more like we left the door open and he wandered in.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah. It's like when you go to like your, It's a process. And there's like a raccoon in there. Right, right. You're like, you're like, stay here, little buddy. Come on.
Starting point is 00:30:27 This is a nice way. No, it's more like, I don't want to get, I don't want to bite me. I don't want to get rabies. I'm going to go on. You can't get rid of it. You don't know what he's putting his mouth. You know what I mean? It keeps coming back.
Starting point is 00:30:37 It keeps coming back. Well, I mean, we keep leaving the food out. Yeah, yeah. Anyway. Graphene everywhere. I won't go too hard on farming, but I, because all this garbage, digital, this and digital that and what he said and what she said, like, if we can produce our own food and, like, legitimately fund a city, like, provide all that we have too much food want to buy the farmland and the Black Rock
Starting point is 00:30:57 wants to buy the farmland, so it could be a good antidote. We have too much food, man, like, but it's watching these videos, like, MuckBang videos, it's just a sweet meteor of death. But is food cheap right now, Tim? I don't know. Nothing's cheap right now. But the problem isn't a lack of food. The problem is a lack of the ability to deliver food to the people that need it.
Starting point is 00:31:16 No, the issue is food. food is a generic term and it's not a pro what we really need to ask is is protein cheap. Right. Because starch is cheap and that's why people are so fat. You go to the ice cream shop and it's like $2.95 and they give you a quart of ice cream. I'm not even playing. You go out here to one of these like, you know, like Derek Queen or whatever and you're like, let me get, you know, like a peanut buster, whatever they're called.
Starting point is 00:31:41 And they're literally going to give you a pint, a full pint of soft served covered in chocolate and it's like two bucks. Now, that's not going to develop muscle mass for you, but it'll make you fat as hell. So we're seeing a bunch of morbidly obese yet still malnourished people. If you are a parent trying to feed your kids, they can't just eat sweets. They can't just eat blueberries. They got to eat their chicken before they can have their blueberries. Give them eggs, too.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah. But what about – well, I was – my daughter was fighting my wife for hours because she wanted to eat blueberries. And my wife was like, you've got to finish your chicken before. You can have the blueberries. And it was literally ours where they were like, she was refusing to eat. Playing chicken. And then finally she finished all of her chicken.
Starting point is 00:32:24 That's part of being apparent, though, is because that that's also... Are you going to eat those burritos? What burritos? Are there burritos? What are you talking about? Somebody talking about burritos. Why are we talking about burritos? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:32:36 That's probably like a tangent that had completely unrelated to anything that was going on. Well, no, so we were trying, I was trying to change the topic a little bit for this preset little thing, but now we've, We've got a chicken up here. We've got the, you made the chicken police thing. I wonder what it sounds like. Can we hear it?
Starting point is 00:32:55 Freeze, Klepper. Did he call him a clucker? Yeah, he did. That's a racial slur. Wow, yeah. No, but no, he can say it because he's a chicken too. That's true. Wait, you say, Creeze?
Starting point is 00:33:09 Freeze, Clepper. I think he said clopper? He sounds really clapper. Like clep-do? But look, look, his wing turns into a foot. Whoa. I want to watch this show. I need to be real chickens, though.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I want to watch this. It's common. Yeah. Anyway, you were talking about... Also, he has a hand there. What did he steal? It's a bag. Chicken feed.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Chicken feed. Obviously. And his mask just doesn't cover anything. The beak goes through the bandana. I can wreck it. Everyone knows you can tell chickens by their beak. That does no good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:42 But you were talking about burritos? Well, yeah, because... Well, I mean, Tim, you've seen the giant burrito debate. Yeah, the Brito debate. That's been going on all over the place. Yep. I want to say Matt Walsh or Andrew Colvett started it or something, but Mark Tieson, who's this big, like, neoconservative AI guy,
Starting point is 00:34:02 has been, and they've just been going back and forth all over the place about it. And so what I said was, it was this whole argument about whether or not burritos are too expensive these days. And they were having an argument about, why don't you just make burritos at home, or shouldn't you be able to just go out and eat burrito? And so Tim, what we decided to do here tonight was we got burritos for everybody. We got we got we got five burritos five people in the room. There we go, there we go and I should be clear.
Starting point is 00:34:27 You want to rip it open and you want to well Tim actually got the britos with my idea, but Tim got the burrito Wait, to say free chips and guac on it? Does it? No, no, no, if you join the, if you join their whatever. Give them your information. We have, we've got, we've got, so hold on, we've got different types of burritos here. So, all right, we've got, walking through this, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, white rice black beans and
Starting point is 00:34:52 we got steak that's a go-to we've got white rice black chicken and sour cream shout out and cheese I may not all have cheese
Starting point is 00:35:01 they don't all have cheese I think only two of them white rice pinto beans chicken and cheese beautiful no sour cream though we have got with no sour cream which I like because I don't like sour cream is the same
Starting point is 00:35:11 no sour cream chicken and cheese and beans and last burrito Ooh. Burrito with guac, white rice, fajitas, black beans, chicken and mild tomato,
Starting point is 00:35:25 Tim, that's got to be you, isn't it? It's a king of all burritos right now. I don't need any of those. You don't eat any of those? All right. So, these are the five burritos. And now, how much, sir,
Starting point is 00:35:33 would you be willing to pay? Having read the ingredients, what would you be willing to pay for a burrito? Name your price. I mean, I don't know. You figure it's about like, you know, these are pretty hefty.
Starting point is 00:35:46 These are pretty hefty. I think maybe like, maybe like 10, 12 bucks, something like that? You got to pick one number. 12. 13. I'm going to say 13. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Let's go around the room. I haven't looked at this. Myvin was my first thought, and I thought how ridiculous that was. And then I thought 12. All right. And these, by the way. So what did you say?
Starting point is 00:36:04 You said 12? I said 12. These are not like a little, you know, like. Are they double meat? I went to. I went to Toplet to date and had a burrito for lunch. And I know how much that cost me. So I'm going to say 20 bucks.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I wouldn't. Well, you guys clearly have never watched the price is right because by me going $1 over you and you're at 20, that means I have the widest range. And of course, the actual cost per rate. One dollar over 20. Don't you know how the price is right works? The way that you're supposed to get as close you get without going over. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:36:37 So when the guy says, I think the motorcycle is $100, the next guy goes $100. I should say $100. Meaning he'll always be closer without going over. The other guy just loses. Right. How much did you say years was? So he said 12. I said 13.
Starting point is 00:36:47 He said 11. He said 20. Okay. Which means if they're between 13 and 20, I win. And I do. Actually, not completely. The chicken and cheese with sour cream is 1235. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:59 That's cool. 1235. The steak, just steak, nothing else. White, rice, black beans, and steak is nothing else in it. 15 bucks. Jeez. Yeah. The chicken, the chicken with pinto beans.
Starting point is 00:37:14 The chicken is 1235. Yeah, yeah. Then we have a chicken with fajita veggies is 16. bucks. I got double meat on mine today. steak was $15. Yeah. So I just want people to understand, because we mentioned this before the show, why communists are winning. And what the right needs to reckon with is that, bro, one could
Starting point is 00:37:33 make the argument, like, well, maybe Chipotle's too expensive for you. But if you're working at a fast food job, whatever, and you're making 20 bucks an hour, after taxes, you're working for one hour out of the day just for your lunch. Yeah. let alone having, if you're making 20, 25 an hour or 30 an hour, and you got to feed two kids. Like, I mean, this is, this is, this is, it's, it's, it's, it's wild because this is not the drink. There's no sides. It's just, just the burrito.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Just the burrito. And I got to be honest, like, let's, let's do the math real cook. How many calories are in one of them bad boys? How many calories? I would say, a thousand. 700 was, like I said, mine today, I did the, did the math and it was 900 and changed. I think it's a thousand. I would say a thousand.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Yeah, because the tortilla. because the meat, well, actually, maybe less. Ian, which one do you want? The one, the final one that you mentioned with all those delicious ingredients. I'm going to wait until after the show before I go there. Thanks, dude. Jack calls me up and he's like, Tim, did you see the burrito debate? And I was like, yeah, something about it.
Starting point is 00:38:33 He's like, we should get de burritos. Like, all right, I'll order britos. Carter? Give mine to Ian. I won't eat the glue. He's already got one. You don't want it? I'll eat it after the show's.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Whatever one. Nobody else wants. I'll take it. Between 740 and 1,200. Okay. 740 to 12. Yeah, it depends. It depends what you have.
Starting point is 00:38:49 So, chicken and steak. Do you want another beer? Chicken or steak with rice, beans, cheese, and sour cream is 1,000 calories. So I was right. Chicken cheese. Whenever you add, start adding cheese and sour cream. Yeah, you get those numbers way up. Man, it is the age of cooking is upon us with Putin.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I saw him giving a speech to a bunch of college kids. Cooking with Putin? Yeah. No, that'd be a show. Based reality show. But it was like eight years ago. It was before Biden got into office seven years ago. And they were like, Vladimir, how do we become best men?
Starting point is 00:39:22 Best men for our country. You know, they're asking Vladimir, and he's like, learn to cook. He tells all these young men, learn to cook. Oh, really? And they laugh at him because they think he's joking. And then he gives him a death stare and they're like, absolutely serious. National security and for your own lively. So he literally says, let them cook.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Learn to cook. He tells, yeah, let him cook. Let him cook. But he was straight up like, yo, bro, we're about to enter a high era of raising. He probably knew the prices were. about to blast through the roof. So, like, you can save 60% of your cost if you cook it at home. No, the thing about, I mean, that's, I mean, that is, by the way, that that is good life
Starting point is 00:39:55 advice. So this was, this has been the argument, right? That, you know, the one side of the argument says they're like, hey, that's way too much for a breeder. And by the way, Tim, so this was DoorDash, but did you include the delivery cost in that or is that just the base price? No, no. If we include the full cost, it's about $20, $21 per burrito.
Starting point is 00:40:15 So for delivery. So for delivery, okay. Now, if I was going to get in my car and drive there, I mean, the total cost of gas is going to be like a buck. Now you're in your gas and time, though. So if I was going to drive and it's going to take me about a half an hour there and back, well, actually, maybe a little bit longer. It's about 15 minutes there. Then you order and you wait, unless you order in advance. It's about an hour of my time.
Starting point is 00:40:37 That means going to be about $3,296 per burrito. That's like a legitimate calculation, too, when you're making a lot of money. No, it is a calculation. No, seriously, I, this is... I'm charging my time for britos like this. So this is a whole other aspect of this that I do think, I do think should have entered into the conversation that if people say, oh, like for the, you know, the anti-Dor-Dash people, et cetera, that when you get something delivered, you are literally saving your time. And so if you have the ability or, you know, if you're busy, you're doing something else, this is why people do delivery to begin with. This is why I never tip DoorDash drivers because they don't deserve it.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Zero. You never tip? No, I always tip more than, it's, you know, it's really crazy to be like, you know how much a DoorDash delivery driver gets for driving half an hour? They go like $7. Oh, yeah. So you want to know what's really crazy? I was going to say, like, I always tip. DoorDash won't let me tip.
Starting point is 00:41:31 How come? Why not? Because I try to tip a lot. I tried to, and so I didn't know what was going on. I pulled up DoorDash and so maybe about like once a month we do a bit. big order for the company and we'll get a bunch of, you know, Mexican or Taco Bell or something. Yeah, yeah. Just not Mexican.
Starting point is 00:41:46 And so I might order like $500,000 Taco Bell, which is like three breedos at this point. But I'm kidding. So I'll go to the tip and I'll be like, this is going to be like five boxes, five like of the party boxes. So you want to do a big tip. So I want to do a big tip. It won't like. So what happens is I go in and I'll be like, let's do a $50 tip for this one. And it'll go, error.
Starting point is 00:42:06 And it won't tell me what I'll just say error. And I'll go, what's going on? And I'll try again. then I keep changing my, I'll change my payment method. Error, error. I'm like, I don't know why I can't order. And then one day I finally figured it out, I thought, maybe it's because the tip's too big. So I reduced the tip down to like 20 bucks, went through.
Starting point is 00:42:24 That's super weird. That's cheap. Yep. You could just give them cash when they come to. There are, this may be a surprise to most people because, and I don't mean this is a humble brag, but you don't experience this. Whenever, and I don't think anybody wants to try it out, But if you're ever at a kiosk where they flip the thing and ask for a tip and it allows you to punch in a custom number, try going 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9 and see what happens because it'll stop you.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And it'll drop it all the way down to like $17 or something. So this happened. So this is what got me thinking about. I've had people, I've had them catch it and be like, and be like, are you, did you hit too many zeros, you know, or like, did you, you're like, no, that's why. There must be some mistake. Yeah. Yeah, you know, like, whenever, whenever I go to a restaurant, I usually tip around 100% because there's a few reasons. One, I can.
Starting point is 00:43:16 It's nice. The people are very happy and they're happy to see us. And we want to be good to the community and we want to be good. And, you know, I am blessed, so I shall bless others. And also, you just, you know, you want to, you want to spread good. You know what I mean? Like, I'll tell you the story. I was in a cabin.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Well, and, you know, presumably if you're, you're around here, you're going to go back to the restaurant. Yeah, they all know me. They're very happy to see me. Yeah. But here's the other thing, too, is like, you get perks, right? So when I walk up to the steakhouse, they say, Mr. Poole, whenever you need a seat, you can sit here. You're like, you're very kind to us. And I'm like, ah, you know, it's like, but let me tell you story.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I was in Manhattan. And getting a cab from Manhattan of Brooklyn sucks because they can't pick up fares in Brooklyn. They have the green cabs and the yellow cabs are separate. Green cab is outside of Manhattan. I don't know if they still do it this way. This was 10 years ago. I actually didn't know that. I would take Uber.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Yeah, so I'd use the app. Cab would pull up. Well, that was the whole medallion thing, right? And what they, well, that's different. Like, medallion's good for the city. It's just they restrict boroughs. Okay. So the cabs will pull up and they'll roll their window down a tiny bit and they'll say,
Starting point is 00:44:14 where are you going? Right. And they're not allowed to do this. And then you say, Brooklyn, they speed off. Because if they go to Brooklyn, they can't get a return fare, so they're going to lose an hour in traffic. So I get a car and I get in and sit down and close the door and he goes, where to bus?
Starting point is 00:44:31 And I said, here's the address. And he went, pissed starts driving he's pissed the whole way he's muttering to himself he's furious he's just talking trashed
Starting point is 00:44:43 just under his breath driving like a dick so you know what I did you know I did for this guy when I paid and it said tip I taught him a lesson I tipped 100% and you know what he did
Starting point is 00:44:55 he turned around shocked and said I'm so sorry thank you so much blessings to you thank you so much and I said because I know you can't get a fair on the way back I wanted to give you a good tip so you can make it back. And he was like, thank you, thank you so much. And you know why I did that?
Starting point is 00:45:09 You could have just told him that, by the way. Told him what? I thought you were going to do that. Well, I didn't think about it until like, I was mad. But I'm not going to be like, hey, buddy, don't be mad at me. I'm going to give you a tip. I always tell the Uber drivers now when we do big fares between like Western Virginia, D.C. I'm like, hey, buddy, I got you for your way back.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Just don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah. Because I'll do stuff like that. Or if I'm asking you do something different. like, hey man, I've got like, this is what's going to happen at the end. Here's what would happen if that guy stayed pissed off. He'd get back to Manhattan. He'd pick somebody up and he'd be pissed.
Starting point is 00:45:39 And that anger is going to pass off onto this guy who gets in. So a guy gets off work. He's tired. He wants to go home. He gets in a cab. This cab driver's driving like a dick. He's pissed. Now the guy's like, oh, my God, my head hurts.
Starting point is 00:45:50 He gets home. He walks him to his house and his wife is like, did you file the taxes for that? He goes, oh, my God, I just got off work. The cab driver's been to do. But here's what happens. Now the cab driver is happier than a pig in ish. He drives up. He picks up this tired business guy. He's got a smile on his face.
Starting point is 00:46:06 And he says, hey, man, things are going to be okay. And the guy says, you know, maybe they are going to be okay. Then he gets home and his wife says, Defani goes, honey, that's my bad. I'll take care of it. And you break that anger down. Paying it forward. Not always perfect. Sometimes bad people, you don't want to give money because they're bad people. This is the plot of It's a Wonderful Life, by the way.
Starting point is 00:46:23 There you go. There you go. Of course he does almost kill himself. But let me go back to this. He does almost kill himself. This is big. This is big. So this happened to me, this was a year ago when I first noticed this. I was handed the tablet for a tip.
Starting point is 00:46:39 And I was like, I'm going to leave a big tip, right? Let's make a splash. And when I did, I put $1,000. The number immediately dropped down to like 200 something. And it said, tip amount exceeds limit. And then I was like, it's not letting me put the number in. And it was at a restaurant. and the waitress was like,
Starting point is 00:46:57 we're trying to, I was trying to give you $1,000. And she's like, oh, wow, they're like, it won't let me. I was like, I'm sorry, I can only give you. The bill was like 100 something, and it only allowed me to tip like 200. And she was like, well, I'm happy either way. And I'm like, yeah, that's messed up, though. And I guess it's because they're concerned people would accidentally put in too much money. And so then I've tried another kiosks.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I'll just go 9, 9,999, and then it drops it way down. And after that happened, that's when I realized why DoorDash wasn't working for me. I stopped using DoorDash because I was like, it keeps me errors. can't buy anything. I didn't know why. So then I went in, I changed the tip down lower and it worked. And I was just like, how insane is it that they don't let you leave good tips? And this is why cash is king. This is why digital currency will never fly. Yeah. And that's why they want digital. And that's why I want to lock it all down because they want to listen, people need to understand this. The IRS does not want you giving your money away.
Starting point is 00:47:52 People don't understand this. I have to explain it all the time. We're working. class people. Wait, wait. No tax on tips. No tax on tips. People don't understand this, not working with large sums of money as a business with, you know, input, output, ingestion, et cetera, accounts receivable, that when we hire somebody, we have to write down a paragraph describing what their job is, and we have to have
Starting point is 00:48:17 proof they've done that job. Because we've been audited and they say, you have a person to prove it. And we have to show the body of work. Here's the video he made, and they go, okay, okay, we get it. We got audited. They claimed that Elad Eliahu, who lives in New York City, who sells us footage via invoice, they claimed he was a full-time employee. And we were like, this is not true.
Starting point is 00:48:41 He's a guy we buy, we don't care. And they made us pay some ridiculous amount of money. And then we go to our lawyers first, and we were like, this is insane. They're trying to make us pay. They're claiming that the entire time we've had a lot here, we owe employment tax on everything has been paid, even though it's in. invoice purchasing things from him. And this is the new, these are the Uber laws they passed, where they basically said you can't contract anymore. Yep. So this is it for the city in New York.
Starting point is 00:49:05 No, no, no, this is West Virginia. Every state passed Uber laws. They're called Uber laws, where you cannot hire contractors anymore. If you want to hire a contractor, it's insane. They can't be related to your company. So the idea is this. If Elad films a video and then we say we want to buy that video from you can't do it because we're a media company that produces videos we can only employ him full-time uh it was it w-9 w-9 or whatever w-2 uh i think the tax form before is is like w-2 is maybe you're right i don't know uh i 9-9 no 990 is the other one 9 9 yeah so uh maybe or 1099 uh 1099 yeah yeah so uh anyway they claimed that 90 is everyone we contracted was actually an employee because they
Starting point is 00:49:55 work they did was related to the business that we do. And they said contracting would be like if your media company needs a plumber. So you don't want to hire a full-time plumber. Yep. I've never heard this. That's not. We had to pay $60,000. We went to pay $60,000. Because we went to our lawyers and they said, after legal fees and going to court challenging this, you're going to end up risking an additional 30, 40K on top, you got to pay the 60K. And we were like, this is insane. And it's Uber laws. It's what they're called. So the Uber laws got passed because of because of Uber. DoorDash and these companies. It started with California.
Starting point is 00:50:28 They said Uber is hiring people as staff while claiming their contractors. Uber said we're a social networking app. We connect drivers and passengers. And they said, no, you're a taxi service that has employees. And so they passed his law saying, here's how contracting must be defined from now on. And although there's exemptions and we qualify for all of them, it doesn't matter because they're here to take your money from you. And like, I get it.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Like, I get that argument for gig gaps. I do actually get the argument that they're making. But it sounds like, just like every time that the government's taking way more than they should have. Why wouldn't they? And then they wasted and give it to Somali fraudsters. Well, and then, yeah, because like, and you're, but even, but even on the front end too, right? How many fraudsters are using, like, you go to D.C., you go to Philly, you go to any big cities that, How do you know?
Starting point is 00:51:25 Like, are you actually checking that the person that it says in your app is the one who's picking you up? Or you just checking the car? I say his name and the license. I look at the license, then I say the guy's name. But they do this all the time where one guy will have the account. Yep. And then they'll get somebody else to run the car so they could do it 24-7.
Starting point is 00:51:41 We had this problem with DoorDash, so we started doing ID checks and they got mad. Yeah, they don't like when you ID check. Well, we had, what pissed me off is that after like the sixth time, because we have security, right? We have armed security. We have a gate. You can't just get in the property. So they pulp to the gate and then security.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Very well armed security. Understatements. Yes. We've recently up there security. I'm not going to explain exactly how, but... Sometimes when I have like a... Someone who's never driven here before, I try to like... I have to like...
Starting point is 00:52:09 I explained it to them before they arrive. And I always think they think that I'm joking. And then they actually get here and they're like... Wow. He wasn't joking. I saw the new security day and it's surprising. It's a very, very good idea. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Okay, I'll just tell. It's an auto defense 50-Cal turret mounted on top of two of the, there's two of them. And they just, they're just slowly going back and forth with lasers. No, I'm kidding. And it doesn't have any triggers on the back. It's all remotely operated. I couldn't get them to work at all. He's just kidding. You can't see them. They're camouflaged. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They look like cell towers. They look like data centers.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Yeah. What were we just talking about before we changed the subject and talking about Uber laws? Tipping drivers? Well, the big question here, the big argument, and we haven't even had the debate yet because we were talking about tipping. which is a very good point. But, you know, the real question, I think, too, is, you know, so it's this debate on, you know, should you just suck it up and eat the expensive burrito or, you know, or should you suck it up and be forced to eat at home? Like, you should, should you settle for less?
Starting point is 00:53:13 Or, you know, this third option of, like, actually making things better for people. And ultimately, this is what the socialists are. are offering. They're coming out and saying, we will make your life better. We will screw over those companies that are doing all of those things. We, we, you know, they're going to lie to you and say that all the prices are the fault of the companies and the companies are evil. They're not going to bring up any of the government things that we've been discussing, not to mention the Federal Reserve or whatever else you want to talk about, you know, endless wars, different things going on that drive inflation. But the point being is, is, if you're, you're not going to, if you're
Starting point is 00:53:51 sitting there and just telling voters in an election year that you need to settle for less, you're going to lose. Yes. You're going to be electorally slaughtered at the ballot box. And you probably should deserve to lose as well. And this is why it's one of the things we talk about in the book. And it's that socialists always use a grievance that is real. Sometimes, I mean, a lot of they make up, you know, grievance as well. But here's my point. They use real grievances and then come up with solutions that sound like they're palatable
Starting point is 00:54:30 and sound like they're popular. And this is why they run. Vladimir Lenin, when he was with the Bolsheviks, right? He didn't run on the red terror. He ran on, when I say ran, built the movement. He built the movement by saying peace, land, bread. Yeah. By saying we're going to end the disastrous foreign war that's unpopular.
Starting point is 00:54:47 We are going to offer land reform, which might be like rent, reform or housing reform, you might say today, and bread. Literally free food, almost like free grocery stores. Where are you guys hearing all those things today? That's literally the same thing you're hearing from the socialists right now. Well, do you take a look to it with the Mamdani grocery stores and here's a chain of events we described in the past couple of weeks? You need IDs to buy. So good, isn't it? Now hold on. Why would you need an ID? The question was asked, what if people buy and then resell? Well, you'll need a library card-ass thing to buy here. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:55:21 How would having a library card stop you from buying and reselling? They wouldn't. Okay, so what would they have to implement along with your ID to stop from buying and reselling? Maybe your rations. Indeed. And now you're in a food line where you need your ID and they say only one gallon of milk per week. Almost like. So Tanya Tay, so my wife who was born in the Soviet Union, she has memories of food stamps.
Starting point is 00:55:44 And she actually said that we used to play with food stamps. Like it was like, you know, like we would have, you know, trading cards, Pokemon cards. I think you can buy the old booklets. Yeah, you can buy them. And she said we would play with food stamps and we would sort of play around with them. And then, of course, like, get in a lot of trouble
Starting point is 00:55:58 when we, if we, like, we lost one or something. But she 100% has memories of food stamps and breadlines in the Soviet Union. I saw Trump. Well, I just saw it like a polymarket story that said that Trump asked the oil companies to lower their prices. I don't know how true that was, but I was like,
Starting point is 00:56:15 geez, that's like, it sounds fake market manipulation. He did say that. He said that in the Oval Office. No, I mean, it was a comment that he made. I mean, it was a comment that he made. I don't know that the government's had to, you know, had any action. No, he did say it.
Starting point is 00:56:28 But that's like when the president starts asking companies to change their prices. You're like, oh, that sounds like we're heading towards price fixing. I actually, state planning. No, I actually think that because you'll see this, and I get that there's, that there's tales on this. I actually think that it's probably more the individual gas station owners keeping the prices high, because you'll see how cutthroat it is if you live in an area that's got gas stations
Starting point is 00:56:51 that are, and a lot of them are franchise, but, you know, that are nearby because you'll see some that are, like, very responsive to the price of, and it's just my personal opinion, I could be totally wrong on this, but you'll seem that some are very responsive to oil futures, and then some that are, like, not responsive at all and keeping their price high.
Starting point is 00:57:08 And by the way, for different reasons. And, of course, you know, that is part of a free market system. Like, I'm not saying it's not, But, you know, someone might say like, oh, well, I'm the one that's closest to the highway, so I'm going to stay higher because I know people are going to come in. They don't want to drive out in the town. So I'm just going to keep mine higher anyway. That's not like the CEO of Exxon saying that or whatever. You brought up the communist, the Soviet Communist Revolution. I do bring them up on a lot of occasions. I have a book actually. Lenin. You could see it. Oh, yeah. That's unhumans. In fact, it's called the secret history of communist revolutions and how to crush them. They basically, exactly like you said, they pointed out the problems. They issued vague solutions, I guess. Like, we're going to get everyone.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Not just vague, but popular solutions. And then what happened? What went wrong? They killed everyone. Like what, they got into power and then did they just immediately start killing people? Well, they killed out like, oops, we can't do what we promised? Well, the killing started a lot before they came into power. But, um...
Starting point is 00:58:05 They killed their way into power. That's true. They certainly did. There was a war. There was a civil war. Bullshunds came out on top. But, you know, they did come out on top. And what I guess the easiest way to say it is that none of their solutions made any sense.
Starting point is 00:58:20 They all fell apart for a variety of different reasons because they were crazy and a bunch of thugs and criminals. But the problem was because the people who should have known better, and you see this in socialist revolution after socialist revolution, the people who should have known better and fought back didn't. And the reason they didn't was because they said, oh, those guys are crazy. they'll never take power. Oh, you know, people will see through the stupidity of their actions and we won't work. Charlie Kirk asked me once. He said, he said, how big was the, you know, was the Bolshevik party? How many people were, I said, like, at one point it was really only like a thousand people. And he said, and how big was, you know, how many people were in Russia? I'm like, it's, well, it's the whole Russian empire, right? You know, then how did so few take over so many?
Starting point is 00:59:07 I said, because they didn't take it seriously. Because they didn't take seriously what happens when you have a tiny minority of people. And before we hit that, could I say, did want to soft announce, soft announce, not a big announce, but a soft announce. Because all of the socialists are currently in the middle of a revolution right now, we are doing, so soft announcing this,
Starting point is 00:59:30 a second edition of unhumans. And so it's going to be unhumans socialist revolution. And it's going to, so it's the original book, but then we're going to have at least 10 new chapters, all new information about the things that have gone on, the things that have happened since the original book came out, and of course, the tactics to help you survive the communist uprising. Do you think that there's a misnomer between socialism and communism floating?
Starting point is 00:59:58 Because I don't like using the terms interchangeably. I hope, and maybe to over time it, we need to know exactly what it is, so we know exactly what it leads to the other one, essentially. So keep in mind that that, um, One of our, one of the thesis, theses, I guess you could say, of our original book, is that these are not ideologies, they are tactics. And so our thesis is that they don't actually want at some level. They don't actually want the equality or the freedom that they claim or they don't want
Starting point is 01:00:35 everyone to actually have harmony and justice. What they want is to crush you because they hate you. because they're resentful of you and envious of you. The Soviet Communist Party didn't want communism. They wanted what they got, which was vanguardism, a small group taking power. And the same with the CCP. They said communism. They led people towards everyone owns everything.
Starting point is 01:00:54 And then a small group took over again. Because communism is impossible. It's like saying we want unicornism. It's a sales tactic. It's just a sales tactic. And socialism you can also is. Because socialism is functional. Socialism is the means to achieve communism.
Starting point is 01:01:11 They're not different. I know you've made the argument before. They're not different. Hold on. Communism is not possible. It is functionally impossible. Socialism is the economic system that communists employ. Communism is is vanguardism.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Okay, so if I said, Ian, we're going to have unicornism where we'll be led by unicorns and fairies, you'd be like, that's impossible. Correct. The idea that there is no leadership, that every human just exists, and equally, that's impossible because the guy who spends all day fixing electrical, like, you know, electrical systems is not going to tell you about what's happening on the southern border. So he doesn't know. So you can't have equality because people do different jobs.
Starting point is 01:01:57 And then you will need some kind of centralized nucleus of a varying strength. So these people say, the means of production should be owned by everybody. Everybody should be equal and get equal access to everything. okay, how do you administer resources between large groups of people who do different jobs? There's going to be a central lot. There's going to be a nucleus there. That nucleus will de facto be in charge no matter what. So communism is a fairy tale.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Socialism is everything. So when they're like, we're not communists, we're socialists. What they're saying is we're going to build exactly what the communists have always built. Yes, so the USSR, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. So they referred to themselves as socialist republics. But of course, everyone would say the USSR is. communist, right? Let's so, so when you say it's interchangeable, it is because it kind of is, right?
Starting point is 01:02:44 It is a tactic which they claim for them communism means the utopia and that we will eventually get to in Chinese, uh, Guangxan-juie is, um, it actually means, uh, feel you to appreciate this. It actually means, um, uh, public propertyism. So the abolishment of all private property is literally how they use, they say the word communist, communism in Chinese. I want to pull it this story from the BBC. A Japanese town wrestles with identity after protests over its first mosque.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Jack was just mentioning how it took only about 1,000 Bolsheviks to turn a nation of 40 million into a communist hell pit. And we've got this story from the BBC, which I find absolutely fascinating. I saw these videos. Japanese people protesting the construction of a mosque, they say, today it's a field of grass, but soon it'll be the site of the first mosque in this Japanese town. It makes me worry about how our community might change, says longtime resident Noriko Izumi Zawa, plans to build an Islamic religious site in Fujisawa, a laid-back seaside town. About an hour's drive south of Tokyo have sparked a wide range of emotions. There's anger, fear, as well as hope and acceptance, exposing the growing anxieties over immigration and social change as Japan grapples with a labor shortage in a shrinking and aging population.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Guys, this is crazy. Japan of all places allowing a mosque Japan for the Japanese Here we go I'm taking everything over Do you have Can we show the response to the people
Starting point is 01:04:17 Do we have images video? We do have video Let me see if I can pull one up One of them that I had pulled up Was blocked for being graphic Let me see Find that one Wow
Starting point is 01:04:27 That's the one I want to watch I can't play it And oh I mean if it's that graphic But you know it's it Oh we got dramatic music alongside it. No, this is good. Geez.
Starting point is 01:04:45 They're protesting the first mosque. That's crazy. Larger than the nearby Shinto shrine. Shintoism. That's the... Now, why would the Japanese government be allowing this to happen? Are they conquered? Well, you know, I got to stop.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I got to stop. I'm sorry. I shouldn't say things like this. I was listening to Tucker Carlson. He said Islam's actually fine, actually. Well, I was going to say, to be directly clear, Japan was conquered by Christians. By the United States.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Yeah. I mean, militarily. By Christians. It was a largely Christian empire that did so. The time of the conquering of Japan, the United States, was like 95% Christian. Sure, but you could also argue that it wasn't necessarily the most Christian act to drop the atomic bombs. Sure. And we didn't, no, no, but that we didn't build churches.
Starting point is 01:05:37 And actually probably did. Not really. and South Korea more southern Japan. And also, to be clear, that Japan, what Japan surrender also came as they were being threatened by invasion of the Soviet Union at the same time, which everybody leaves out.
Starting point is 01:05:52 From the West. And they had taken Manjuria, which was the industrial base. Soviets. And then after Japan, also, in the book, by the way, after Japan surrendered, rather than fight, the Red Army gave all the weapons to chairman out. So that's where we get the C-S.
Starting point is 01:06:08 There's been ongoing pros. protest in Fujisawa for a long time, actually. Good for them. Yeah. Keep it up, boys. Keep it up. Don't lose your country. Don't lose your country.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Like, what is it? Freedom of religion is important. No, it's not. No, no. It's an important part of liberalism. So it's because they want the migrants. That's why the government's doing this. Because Japan has been allowing migrants in as cheap labor.
Starting point is 01:06:32 They've been doing it for quite some time. You see migrants from like the Indian subcontinent. You see it from South Asia. You see it from the Middle East. and in order to make the cheap workers happy, if they want a mosque, they can have a mosque. But Ian, liberalism is a closed system. It doesn't work if you have authoritarian party that's infiltrated your system, right? Because the only way to get rid of an authoritarian party is with authoritarianism.
Starting point is 01:07:03 You can't, like, authoritarianes don't let you vote them out. And communists or socialists when they take control, they're not. never, almost never voted out. They just consolidate power, change the rules, so that way they always win. And you hear the Democrats, the DSA in the United States saying that they want to do those things. They want to abolish the Senate. They want to get rid of the presidency. They want to do things that would consolidate their power that would make sure that it would be only people that are DSA members could win. And they're upset, but because by the way, they're obsessed with taking power. Yes. Obsessed. They think about it all day long. They don't think about, you were talking
Starting point is 01:07:45 about, you know, food distribution systems and all this. They don't think about that. They think, how can I control everything? Yeah. They wake up every day and they say, how can I control everything? This is why, for example, I bring this up at a small, as a small point, but to make a point, you can go to any library in the United States of America and I'll guarantee you what is on the very front table when you walk into that library. And you guys all know what I'm going to say. You're going to see like anti-racist baby you're going to see some BLM stuff you're going to see some feminist stuff you're going to see some trans stuff and it's on every library why why is that in every library because you look at the library and you think ah that's a place to get books the communist
Starting point is 01:08:24 in your town looks at the library and says that's a place that i can take over and exert power and communists are completely fine with destroying the thing if they can't control it right like they're completely fine. They love destroying the thing. Yeah. Look at Los Angeles. I mean, that's what ends up happening in the long run, but generally they want to control something.
Starting point is 01:08:46 And if they can't achieve control of it, they'll do everything they can to destroy it. You look at what they did to like the Boy Scouts with the whole like, you know, you have to let everyone in, you have to let girls in. Boy Scouts are basically done now. They do that with every institution. And part of the reason they do that is because institutions are what make a culture. they're what hold a culture together. That's part of the reason why you see so many weird things going on in a lot of the,
Starting point is 01:09:12 like a lot of the Protestant churches, right? Like the trans stuff is we're welcoming everybody, the LGBT stuff. They infiltrate. They wear it like a skin suit. It's not really the core of whatever the institution was is gone. They're wearing it like a skin suit. So they'll wear the whatever the church would wear. but all the important things about the church
Starting point is 01:09:37 have been taken out Hollywood is a great example of this too when they were wokeifying franchises and they constantly Lord of the Rings or whatever franchise we could Star Wars right you could think of a million things
Starting point is 01:09:52 why do they do that they want to destroy it they love that they've destroyed something that was below like this beloved cultural institution when the Soviets took over the Soviet Union the Bolsheviks they destroyed the institution of the monarchy, the empire. They did. So that was like a negative.
Starting point is 01:10:07 And quite literally. Most people were like, screw the emperor. That was bad. Actually, actually, if you want to get really, if you want to get really technical, the czar abdicated. So, Zard Nicholas actually, he tried to compromise with them. And he said, well, surely if I just abdicate, then, and I show you that I'm willing to work with you, I'm going to abdicate.
Starting point is 01:10:26 And I won't be the czar anymore. And we'll have, you know, all this, this democracy stuff. And you'll be fine. What do they do? They shot his kids in the basement. They took him and his children out to the woods, they stuck him in a basement, they put him against the wall,
Starting point is 01:10:41 and they shot them until they were all dead. His children. The whole family, yeah. They couldn't risk someone, any kind of lineage emerging later on, claiming a right. They kept them on house arrest for a while, and then somebody had a decision.
Starting point is 01:10:53 They were like, you know what? It's just too risky. Take them out. Yeah, and apparently they were like, we're sorry, but we have to kill you because in some point in the future, your kids might try claiming. It was also, as depicted in the family, in the famous book on humans, that during the Civil War,
Starting point is 01:11:10 the liberation of the royal family became like a huge goal for the white army, which was the Russian, you know, sort of the remnant of the Russian army, the Russian Imperial Army. So they kept trying to liberate them. That's why they brought them so far out into Yucatronburg out in like, you know, towards Siberia, basically. And so that no one will ever ever be able to get them out here,
Starting point is 01:11:33 but then there was still a worry that, you know, that spies from the white army might be able to find them. And Piotr-Rangel was the leader of that white army. And so that's what kind of led, among other things, led to the killing. What should they have done? What should the Tsar Nicholas have done when the Bolsheviks began to... He should have arrested them all. And then done what with them? He should have arrested them all.
Starting point is 01:11:56 If any of them had committed specific crimes like murder, they should have been, clearly should have been hung if they were people who were fomenting. a civil war like that, we're committing treason, then obviously, yeah, you have you, this is why I've said, and, you know, people ask me about this at the Tyler Robinson hearing, they said, you know, you know, believe you should get the death penalty. I said, I said, assassin should always receive the death penalty in any system. Because, because an assassin, or in this case, you know, we're talking about treason, you are someone who is waging war against the system itself. You're waging war against your own nation, and you are trying to destroy your own nation. And in doing so, were destroying, you are waging war against the very, I use the Hobbesian form of, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:39 state of war here, where you are waging war against the very underpinnings of that nation. And as such, to Phil's point, you can't have that element in your society. So you either have to, you have to lock it up, you have to stamp it out, you have to smash the institutions. And in the extreme situations, that's where capital punishment would be applicable. You might call them agents of chaos. It used to be that there was no good and evil. way back in human perception, it was only order and chaos. And then once we established order,
Starting point is 01:13:07 we were able to figure out, hey, there's another way of being, there's good and evil that can exist within order. But when there's no order, bro, people eat each other and kill everything. You know, this is the code of Hamarabi. You know, it's very fascinating. Which we also talk about in the book. During Egypt's Revolution, Mubarak refused. And I believe they ultimately arrested him, right? And Morseye as well. Well, yeah, this was the Muslim Brotherhood uprising. Right. And so at the time, I was like, why won't these North African people, leaders just abdicate. Just say, if the people want this democracy, then we will step back, keep one hand in the steering wheel. The funny thing is, that's what Sarnoacquist tried doing.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Right. He tried, he said, okay, I understand, I'll abdicate. Then they'd massacred him and his family. And there's actually a really, really, really sad part to that as well, because so people remember the royal families of Europe at that time were very well interconnected. This did immediately post-World War I. And so his first cousin was actually the king of England, it was King George. And he wrote to his cousin and said, please offer asylum to me and my family. And we don't know what's going to happen. The instability is getting to, you know, it's becoming too much. We need safe passage. Please give us a letter of safe passage to England. And he wouldn't do it. the reason I brought up the Soviet Union is because like you were saying one of the things about communists is that they'll just try to destroy whatever the you know the the establishment is of that time to create you're not saying this I've saying this to create chaos in order to then use that chaos to propel their movement no that's that's what that's what we say so you might argue that the the Russian royal family was a shitty establishment and it was like you could say what then you might argue the Chinese why why why do you say it was a
Starting point is 01:14:55 imperial monarchy. So you're just saying, you're just saying, he's a piss poor leader. He just, but what, Ian, what you're saying,
Starting point is 01:15:02 though, is exactly what I was pointing out, is that I'm not saying the grievances weren't genuine, right? Yes. And people were upset about the, I said they were upset about
Starting point is 01:15:11 the foreign war. They were upset about the price of food. They're upset about their housing costs, the price of housing. And, and so in response, they murdered the ruler and his whole family.
Starting point is 01:15:22 So the Chinese, then 40 years later, we're looking at 1946, whenever the Chinese, after World War II, it's basically like the Chinese. Oh, it started in the 20s. China's like an American puppet at this point or like a liberal puppet with the Republic of China.
Starting point is 01:15:34 There's an uprising in China that we have the Chinese Revolution with Mao. They argue that establishment is imperial Western establishment. They're trying to take us over probably as what their argument was, I don't know. But now with the modern day, yes, absolutely. The modern day communist, what's their argument?
Starting point is 01:15:49 Corporatocracies ineffective? We need a state run. Like what, how can they, How can they pin this establishment is as bad as those words? I don't think it is. I don't think it is. It's not how bad it is. They talk about the foreign war.
Starting point is 01:16:01 They talk about the cost of living and they talk about the cost of housing. It's just economy. Like life today in the United States is just orders of magnitude better than it, for even the poorest, than it was for the poorest Russians before the Russian Revolution. Like just the amount of abundance that we have here in the United States, even now for people that are struggling, right? they all they have cell phones nobody's actually going hungry yes it's harder to make make ends meet now than it was 10 years ago but when you compare the standard of living that the that the poorest americans have compared to peasant farmers before the russian revolution like it's not even worth mentioning however so the point but the point that i'm making is
Starting point is 01:16:44 it doesn't matter about people's actual material conditions which is one of the things that communists love to talk about they've been like marks always talked about the material The material conditions. The material conditions are actually irrelevant. What these things are motivated by, what these movements are motivated by is resentment and hate for, first of all, people that have more than they do. Not that they don't have enough. It's how much people, how much more people have than them. And a hatred of reality. You hear these people talk all the time. I didn't ask to be born. I shouldn't have to work to survive. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That is contrary to reality. Like every single organism on earth. has to struggle to survive. And it is easier for human beings, particularly in the United States, to survive than for any other organism in all of Earth's history. So the argument that, oh, well, you know, we're just trying to get what we need to survive. That's a lie. It's about wanting, the people that are at the top, the people that are actually running, it's about wanting power. And what they're doing is they're telling the people below them, the basically the proletariat,
Starting point is 01:17:53 They're telling them, I have the solution for what ails you. But none of it's true. It doesn't reflect reality. And what it actually does is it takes what Catholics would refer to as one of the seven deadly sins, the sin of envy. Yep. And it turns envy into a political system and a moral justification for envy. And in fact, the second person ever, or I should say, I guess the first person ever born, right? The first person ever born on the planet was Kane, right?
Starting point is 01:18:24 Kane and Abel. And yet, Kane was envious of Abel. And in fact, he was so envious because Abel had favor that he murdered his own brother. So he was the first person who was ever born on the planet. Now, also as a Catholic, I would point out that he was the first person born with original sin after the fall of the garden. But he murdered his brother out of envy. In fact, one of the original titles that I had for the book was Children of Kane. the envies like the it comes from the lack of appreciation for what you have essentially and then and the hyper obsession with that which another has yeah you start to want other things because you're not happy with what you've got whereas not just and not just one but also resentment of that person to the point where you would be willing to kill them to try to take what they have or at least prevent them from regarding i mean i'm all about steel manning the opposition here regarding what you're saying if the argument against the communist the conman
Starting point is 01:19:21 But I would, we need to, it's a foreign war is the cost of living, the cost of food. Like, how are they wrong? But, well, and so this is actually kind of what I wanted to say as well is that you, in order to defeat a socialist revolution, you can't deny that the reality is what it is. So you can't, we just did the burrito test, right? And the breeder, like, I'm just tell you that, that, that's, that's too much. It's too much. It feels like it's too much.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Yeah, I'm just, I'm just reading the, the, the, the, and then, uh, our Nicholas. Yeah, when they said to him, you are to be executed, the Soviet workers have demanded it. He went, what? What are you saying? Like, what an idiot? Yeah, he was cheap, dude. He went out to try to lead the soldiers because they were losing the front, and he was a terrible military country. And so oblivious and so stupid. Well, actually, actually, interesting enough, that's, you're familiar with Rasputin, right? Yeah, we all know about Rasputin. Yeah, he hired Rasputin. Lover of the Russian queen. Allegedly, allegedly, but she was also known to be devoutly Christian. So, you know, lover of many, but the fact that she was a lover of many, but the fact that she was. that was he not actually what the queen will see like that was one of the rumors spread against him
Starting point is 01:20:26 but actually Rasputin was anti-war and he said we can't do this war we have to be against this this is going to destroy the empire this is to destroy everything you have but of course czar nicholas was saying well what about the honor of russia right and this is of course like like archduke franz ferdinand has been assassinated by a by a serbian nationalist and so um the hapsburgs and Austria-Hungary are declaring war on Serbia. And Serbia, of course, was allied with Russia. So Russia's like, well, you know, we're not going to defend our ally. We're not going to go to war, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:20:58 You know, and so Rasputin is arguing against this. The Tsarina was also arguing against this. And so it was actually conservative army officers in the Russian military who murder Rasputin. Oh, really? Because he was anti-war. They stabbed him like 50 times. He wouldn't die.
Starting point is 01:21:16 And threw him in the river. And threw him in the river. So there's this whole interesting anti, so everyone knows about Rasputin, but they don't actually know why he was killed, right? Because it's because it was anzaid. And they were kept warning the czar. He kept warning the czar. And, you know, I'm not going to comment on his proclivities. But, you know, you can't say he was wrong about what would happen. That's exactly what happened. And so you look at these things. And, you know, I look at the popularity of the around war, which is obviously extremely unpopular. You look at the cost of living, which is now the number one issue. And you know, you look at the cost of living, which is now the number one issue. And you know, you look at the popularity. And you know, you in the United States in this election, and you look at the fact that we live in a K-shaped economy. You guys know K-shaped economy? No. That phrase.
Starting point is 01:21:57 So the idea of K-shaped economy, it took me a second to understand it because it's like not necessarily intuitive. Is that like communist China? It's like China today. But it's this idea that from a certain point in time when you're looking at a graph, and I'll do it this way for the camera, that one line goes up while another line goes down.
Starting point is 01:22:17 So it creates a K. and the phrase used for this is K-shaped economy. We're just looking at a graph that looked like that. And so, yeah, so since 2008, the argument is that we have had a K-shaped economy since the financial crisis, that if you're under the median income level that you've never really recovered to beyond or to before 2008 levels, the quantitative easing, though, has been amazing. So the Fed printing money has been phenomenal for the Kevin O'Leary's of the world, and the people who are sort of the Wall Street class.
Starting point is 01:22:50 And for everybody else, that you've just been kind of screwed and you've been living in a silent recession type conditions since 2008. And the situation isn't getting better. And President Trump, obviously, has been fighting to make it better. But there's a lot of people who think that the relief that was promised in 2004, the relief from the Biden regime, the relief from COVID and everything that was enacted during then has not yet come. and that is producing a lot of anger, and that is why people are turning towards the socialist candidates because they're saying,
Starting point is 01:23:23 hey, we tried this guy, and we feel like it didn't work, and now we're going to go to the other extreme. You know, the only... Not because they're... And by the way, not because they're necessarily pro-socialism, it's because they're anti-establishment.
Starting point is 01:23:38 That's why they're... You mean the communists in general? No, no, I'm talking about voters right now. Oh, yeah, yeah, they're pissed off at whatever's been happening with the hyperinflation. So they're not, so if I sit there and talk about how crazy, you know, Abdul El-Said is and point out that, you know, he obviously hates white people.
Starting point is 01:23:56 He's for the abolishment of ICE. He's for defunding the police. He wants to flood this country with infinity migrants from the Middle East. He looks at Spain and says, that's a blueprint, right? He gets good ideas. And, you know, this is a guy who clearly wants that, but he doesn't use that in his rhetoric. When he gets up and speaks, he talks about what? Peace, land, bread.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Okay, the only solution I can see is reducing cost is because I don't think we can create enough outgoing product to make our economy better, but if we can reduce the cost of fuel and we start using hydrogen, but the problem is. Or raise wages. But if we go off...
Starting point is 01:24:32 First, we don't have the infrastructure. And if we go off petroleum, we no longer control the world by the nuts. Like, the military industrial complex runs the world on oil. You're talking about a decades-long plan. Like, your fix? But even that, it's... I can't... square the circle because if we go off petroleum, we lose the global hegemony.
Starting point is 01:24:50 It seems to be. Okay. So we don't need to go off petroleum totally. But the idea of going to hydrogen, like you have, we do not have any infrastructure. Well, the methane, we can run through the methane channels to the gas stations. That's still, that's still a decade or more, at least a decade or more work. By then, the socialist will have won. We need a, we need a much faster.
Starting point is 01:25:15 solution than changing all of our infrastructure for power. To be honest with you, it's more reasonable to say, well, we're going to switch over to solar and electric cars because at the very least, we have the foundation of an infrastructure with all the Tesla stuff. So I wanted to throw something to Tim actually on this because this isn't the first time. So typically this happens when you have great, you have periods of great income inequality. and the first time this happened in the United States was the industrial revolution. Now it's happening again in sort of like the tech revolution, if you want to call it that.
Starting point is 01:25:51 And, you know, in response to the industrial revolution, and we, you know, talk about a guy in Dayton, Ohio, who ran the National Cash Register Company, but he's really famous for this. And he was one of those guys who said, hey, his name was John Patterson. And he said, what if we just made the workplace better for the workers? Or maybe what if we provided housing for our workers? or did something like create, you know, the five-day work week and the 40-hour work week. And a lot of that was going on at the same state for machinery, cleaner conditions, higher wages, better hours for the workforce.
Starting point is 01:26:26 A lot of that happened at the same time as the, like, the original, original rise of the labor unions. And we kind of point out that it was those forces in, you know, kind of like immediate post-turn of the century. That's why the United States didn't have a socialist revolution back then, the way so many many other countries did. So if we can change our work weeks, so it's 20-hour work weeks and people get paid twice as much for a 20-hour work week, that might be a potential. I wonder if...
Starting point is 01:26:54 You get what I'm saying. People have been pointing out that Woke emerged during Occupy Wall Street, that it was an attempt by the elites to distract the masses instead of complaining about the financial system that was bailing out the elites and controlling everything, make them fight about race instead. And then the funny thing is, woke is largely broke at this point, but no one now remembers Occupy or the bailouts or the financial crisis. They're not really thinking about it. And so now the cultural issues largely centered around, you know, Israel. So it's like there's a new, a new boogeyman. No one is complaining about the bailouts anymore. That's 20 years ago. That whole movement crashed
Starting point is 01:27:35 because of the woke takeover. And I think it's fascinating because I was, you know, being there at Occupy and watching the narrative change from they bailed out corporations and screwed over the working class. And then within two weeks, it was white people are bad. It makes sense. It's crazy, dude. Because it's going up against the banking cartel is tough because it's like in the brain of our system. The Federal Reserve, it's entrenched. Well, I think even you are a little bit too, you're being a little bit too myopic.
Starting point is 01:28:05 You complain by the banking cartel is still another one of their, make them focus on something that's not the bigger problem. that the use of banks as a tool for control is just a tool. So they're dangling the keys over there and you're pointing at it. Then they dangle the keys over there and everyone else points at that when the person is standing right in front of you. What do you think is? Is it usually? Is that the real problem? No.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Is it a specific company? Is it a way of doing business? It's confidence. Again, like when you come out and you're like the banking cartels, that's as useful as saying white men. Oh, okay. The liberal, I would say the bank for international. settlements. The liberal economic order. It's run through the Swiss banish. The mechanism of elites that manipulates various
Starting point is 01:28:47 levers of power to maintain control from media to finance to military or otherwise. And anytime you focus on that machine, they'll dangle keys into different direction to make you go run somewhere else. So what's interesting is I just turned the page and I said, and I was like, wow, this is crazy because we wrote this two years ago. And we said, to be clear, this is a population that could easily be wielded and mobilized by a BLM Chavez type figure.
Starting point is 01:29:17 Trust me, you do not want to wait for that figure to emerge. And that's the DSA right now, isn't it? That's exactly what... But they don't have their Stalin, you know? Yeah, but they're all kind of like vying to be that one. I would agree that that one individual hasn't come up yet, but you know... Hassan could. Mandami wants it.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Hassan wants it. I guarantee you... Sayad wants it. Hassan Piker is the kind of guy who will walk up to a person and slit their throat. Well, and what's crazy about that is that he is so vocal about his support for left-wing violence, and yet you don't hear anyone or any social media. And by the way, I don't think he should be banned. But when anyone on the right says anything that, quote, unquote, could be construed as violence,
Starting point is 01:30:04 immediately banned, yet he'll go out there and support the murder of conservatives, he'll say that hurt people hurt people when like churches and temples or in synagogues are bombed um he'll you know kind of like play footsie with all of this violent stuff out there he'll say he'll make excuses for magi and say that the new york or tell the new york times that um you know that brian thompson was committing social murder yeah with uh as a health care see it's disgusting and and and nobody seems to bat an eye you know he literally supports violence death and murder yeah nick flintes made the point mean, that the left will do all of the cover for their extremists that they possibly can, and the right is so quick to just, you know, say, look, we don't agree with this and to condemn
Starting point is 01:30:54 the people that are, that say extreme things. Well, but that's why I brought up Tsar Nicholas in the, there's several accounts of his death, but one is they brought them, they brought him to the base and saying it's for your own safety. And then, uh, Sir Nicholas says, can we have some chairs? And then one of the guys walks up and says, the Soviet workers, want you executed so you're going to die now. And he went, what? What are you saying?
Starting point is 01:31:13 Like, are you really that stupid? You didn't realize they were preparing to kill you? Never let them. And you are shocked that they're going to kill you now? Never let them take you to the second location. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, make them do whatever they're going to do right where you are because the second location, and this is something you can use in life too.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Someone jumps in your car and they got a gun and they're like, go somewhere, blah, blah, blah, crash that car. Don't ever let them take you to the second location because they're going to do something worse there and you're not getting out of it. Never go to the second location. If I remember correctly, I'm pulling the book up to this, I don't know if we got into it, but I may have read it
Starting point is 01:31:48 somewhere else, but I think they had said something of that they were going to go down for photographs. Yeah, yeah. That they were going to go down. And so they said they wanted to get photo, they said so what I read was they were bringing him down there because they said that it was getting dangerous. There may be shots in the house. And they said
Starting point is 01:32:05 that we need to get photographs for for proof of life. Right. And so, so Yakov-Jorovsky, he was the one who was in charge of that. No, he was from a Jewish family. And his, one of those points of his grievance against the monarchy was, was the pogroms, was the pale of settlement. And so he thought, you know, I'm getting back for my people.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Yep. Against the ethnic questions. They argued over who got to kill who. Right. And it also said that when they were shooting the children, the children were wearing fine jewelry, which was actually protecting their bodies from the stabbings and the shooting. They stitched it into their clothing because they knew they couldn't hide it any other one.
Starting point is 01:32:42 It was like body armor. And so it was like body armor. So some of the rounds weren't penetrating, and so they ordered them bayonets to be used on the children. I think it's, you know, I'm like... Oh, and just to finish the line, then even when that wasn't working, they eventually just shot the kids in the head.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Yep. It's like, I complain about monarchy a lot. This is one of the reasons why, because if you get a failed monarch, fresh revolution. Also, if you take out the monarch, total chaos. Just such a, it's so important that they're good. Revolution. Like our system sucks. And France was just as bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:19 The French Revolution was, look, our revolution here in the United States, it was barely a revolution. It was more like a civil war because the colonists thought of themselves as Englishmen in the first place. But to my point, like, revolutions don't end up with a better system. Historically, that never happens. The United States is an anomaly in that, right? The United States... But because it wasn't a revolution or a civil war,
Starting point is 01:33:46 it was a war for independence. Meaning there was an existing government in place that the people supported, and they were severing the foreign ties. And also they were adamant that what they were trying to do was restore their rights as Englishmen, as free Englishmen,
Starting point is 01:34:02 because the English, like the king was not... Like, it's, he wasn't the way that, that you imagine before the, the revolution. There were, there were certain rights that were, that people in, in the UK, in England had. Well, they did have, to be fair, they did have a civil war to get a lot of that, too, in England. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, well, you know, like, I've said before, like, and they executed that king. Yeah, but the, I've said before, like, the, the, the, the declaration, or the, the constitution that we have is really the fulfillment of the promises started with the Magna Carta, right? It was first the lords had, the Magna Carta said that had a bunch of demands of the king.
Starting point is 01:34:42 And they said, we want the, you know, we have these rights as lords because the king was treating the lords badly. And then that kind of started the idea that men should, that men are actually all equal. And the completion of that idea was the constitution in the United States. Yeah. And, and Ian, just to just to kind of go back on that, though, is, you know, we're talking about something that happened in 1917. but what do you think would happen if these types had an NBC? There was a guy who was arrested outside of Trump's golf course yesterday where he was armed and he was filming. And, you know, the president, when he likes to travel,
Starting point is 01:35:23 he brings his children, his grandchildren. So don't think for a second that there aren't people like that around right now who are targeting clearly the president's family. There's no question. every single person whose last name is Trump like you're very truly your life is in danger just because of your last name. They would do the exact same thing to them
Starting point is 01:35:46 and the same of course goes to a lesser extent for anyone else who's a public conservative. It's just a reality. It's a part of why I'm like speak a lot about don't become like a sycophant. Don't become an ideologue for Trump because it's about a movement of people trying to break away from the liberal economic order
Starting point is 01:36:03 create American idealism or whatever. That's the line the communists say. But if you get obsessed with Trump, when he's gone, that vacuum is a ripe revolutionary battleground. So you've got to be careful that you don't become so obsessed with the leader. The revolution. You mean with hating the leader? Love or hate?
Starting point is 01:36:18 Obsession in general, because when he's gone, we're going to need a new leader. Yeah, but the revolutionary, the revolutionary energy in the United States does not lie in the right today. It definitely lies with the left. Well, the left is the one that is willing to and has used extreme amounts of violence and continues to do so. And unfortunately, their level of violence is continuing to escalate and continuing to get worse. So you are going to see more assassinations. You are going to see more killing attempts.
Starting point is 01:36:50 You're going to see more, you know, I think they've moved beyond bombings at this point. And the more political victories they have, the more cover they get. right so as dsa members win seats in the house or or maybe a seat in the senate or local elections new york mayors race new york mayors then those people that commit violence will get cover from people in positions of power like that will cause more violence this is the problem that we have when we talk about you know dAs that don't want to prosecute right the reason that violence was increasing under them and the reason that that so many politically motivated or so much politically motivated violence went unpunished on the left is because there
Starting point is 01:37:36 were DAs that wouldn't actually punish these people. You've got, you know, you've got the National Lawyers Guild, which is basically a slew of lawyers that was the legal arm of the DSA, essentially, right? And so I think Rubio actually said that they have some ties to Cuba as well. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, there's a lot of international networking that goes along with it, which is part of the reason. And by the way, To your point, that's one of the same reasons that a lot of the violence that happened in the anti-ice violence and variety of other violence that happened in D.C., there are grand juries who are refusing to place charges. There's jury nullification going on. There are people who are willing, who are unwilling to file charges against anyone who attacks ICE officers in certain districts.
Starting point is 01:38:26 Yeah. So what do you do with that? But to my point, like, as. they win electoral victories, they're going to be more violent because they have political cover. And historically what happened is some strong man would get in power and root them out, which means basically... No, no. We'll start slaughtering the opposition.
Starting point is 01:38:43 Who is the them that you're talking about? Franco? A power, a guy will get in and be like, all the people that adhere to my political enemies must be tarnished, you know, and they'll go in, they'll find them, they'll grab them. Ian, I have a question for you. Do you think that if the communists win, they'll spare you? I mean, you're on this show, no. They'll say anyone associated with Timcast is.
Starting point is 01:39:06 It's not an option for me. So the issue is this. Stand back and look at two factions and remove ideology and ask yourself, who would you prefer to root out the other? Would you prefer that Trump stops the communists from taking power? Or would you prefer that the communists stop MAGA from taking power? Right. No, I'm asking you. I'm asking you.
Starting point is 01:39:25 If it was one or the other? Yeah. I like things non-communists. I'm not as well keep the status quo. The issue is this. As it is, I'll keep it. This is the nature of power. Two incompatible worldviews.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Trump, MAGA, Van, whoever, they're either going to, through propaganda, finance, manipulation, which I don't think, I think soft power is not going to work, or through physical, which could be law enforcement or otherwise, stop these people. Or they will be stopped by these people. If the communists win, yeah, you're on the list for sure. Most regular Americans are. This is what the Bolsheviks did. This is what communists do.
Starting point is 01:40:07 In Portland, during one of the riots, they went to a guy's house because he had an American flag, and they knocked on his door and threatened to burn his house down unless he took it down. Where? In Portland. This guy wasn't a protester or anything. I remember this video. It was a live stream. There was a house with a flag, and they'd go up to the house.
Starting point is 01:40:24 And we only have the reportedly, because you can see. see them like yelling. But they told the guy take the flag down or we're going to burn your house down. That's what happens when they win. When Trump is president, you can fly a pride flag. No one stops you. So the question is, does Trump need to go? Look, look, you know, I think Stephen Miller gets it, but I wonder why it doesn't get done, you know? What? They need to arrest these terrorists. Like top, top working communist socialist. Look, when Hassan Piker went on his show and told people to go kill people, he should have got arrested for that. That is not free. speech. This clip goes
Starting point is 01:41:01 massively viral. When he says that people should commit violence in a video game, he should be arrested for that. They won't do anything about it. So it's going to be like Zar Nicholas all over again. It sits in his chair and goes, wait, they're doing what to me? If Zar Nicholas had Palantir, though, it would be, I think they got this on crackdown.
Starting point is 01:41:17 Are you joking? If they did these things, it wasn't happening. The Tsar had all of that. The Tsar had, no. No, no. Zarr had secret police. He had, he had secret police. He had, when he abdicated, he had all of these military assets around him saying,
Starting point is 01:41:33 trust us, we got your back. They didn't just all one day disappear and cease to exist. Like you're not listening. You're not listening. As they win political power, they're going to give cover to the people that actually commit violence. Let me try to explain a different way. It comes down to a question,
Starting point is 01:41:50 and this is what I said, Charlie, is that it comes down to a question of will. Right. It's not a question of resources. it's not a question, because they will find resources. It's not a question, and the government has resources, the U.S. government, the Russian government had resources. It's a question of will.
Starting point is 01:42:08 It's literally a question of whose will will overcome the other. And will one person, you know, will, like capital W, will that will to power actually occur on one side or the other? And if one side, one side abdicates the will to power, they're going to lose. The czar thought abdicating helped him. maintain control. And as he did, he had his chief of staff and his advisors telling him, this is the way we'll do it. He thought that this was keeping order. And then, and again, I was just reading this. He wanted to put his son in, but his son was sick. So then he was like,
Starting point is 01:42:43 we'll do my brother instead. As the Bolsheviks started to gain power in the government, these institutions turned on him. So Palantir, when faced with an army of Bolsheviks with guns, and they just take over Palantir. Exactly. They just take it and use it against you? Which, by the way, this is the exact same way that the French Revolution played out. And King Louis said, well, we'll just let them set up their people's communes and we'll work with them and everything will be fine and they can set up their people's people's courts. And they chop literally, every 40,000 people were killed in the red terror. Like, wait, what do you mean? I'm guilty in the people's court. I'm working with you. You can't. They call appeasement. Neville
Starting point is 01:43:22 Chamberlain was also guilty of it. It's the reason why World War II happened because the Germans were not equipped to fight two fronts and if the French had invaded six weeks before they got attacked, they would have stomped the Germans. But Neville Chamberlain went over there and said, you know, we're just going to give you a little piece of land, Hitler, because you seem like a good enough guy. We trust you. We don't want conflict. We'll appease you. That's how it goes. But ultimately they did lose. But the issue is if the right is unwilling to enforce its own laws against terrorism, terrorism will win. Yep. I get nervous about that term terrorism. I'm with you. I'm using it literally. I'm using it literally. Used, you know,
Starting point is 01:43:57 Like when Hassan Piker went on his show and said, let the streets run red with their capitalist blood go and literally instructed people to commit violence. It's like, yeah, you need to, at bare minimum, ban that. I mean, it's not free speech to tell people to go kill people, right? If it's not an imminent threat, it is legal. When he said go kill the capitalists, that's an imminent threat. If he gives a time and a place, it becomes. No, no, no, no. Legally, I think that's the truth.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Which is why he didn't get arrested. Creating a clear and imminent threat when he tells his audience to go kill people. that's that's it's actually a question for the jury oh yeah the jury that's going to be in dc it's he's going to say he's fine charged everybody that said to go commit a crime what if you charged everybody that said online he'll commit a crime it's a question it's a question for the state department when they revoke his citizenship and deport him back he naturalized and deport i thought he was he was born new jersey he was born new jersey he was born new jersey but we should still we should still strip his parents weren't citizens his parents weren't citizens
Starting point is 01:44:56 right? No, they weren't. Okay, if his parents weren't citizen, then we can challenge that citizenship. I've been thinking about to Hussonel. Strip his citizenship, sending him back to Turkey. Did he have to run that by the street court? I mean, look, Amy Coney-Barrid is weak. 100%. Cavanagh's a little weak.
Starting point is 01:45:10 What did Amy Coney-Barrant say? And it's very similar to what the discussion we're having right now. Because when she testified recently, when she had that hearing, she was talking about how she was terrified that after the Dobbs decision that she was forced to wear a bullet-pressed.
Starting point is 01:45:26 Yep. So we have Supreme Court. Her son opened the door to armed police screaming at him because they got swatting. Only a month before the citizenship ruling. So think about this. You've got someone, we've got a situation now where our own Supreme Court justices have to wear bulletproof vests where their families are terrified of violence being used against them. And yet the actions, right, for every action, there shall be an equal and opposite reaction. We need the opposite reaction to take place or else to your point. the order will be overturned and we will devolve into chaos.
Starting point is 01:46:00 Well, I got bad news for you, Jack. If the left is willing to lie, right? Sayad says he's not a socialist, right? But he's, the DSA was... Did he actually say that? Numerous times. Good for him. And the DSA is campaigning on his behalf while not endorsing him because we know that they
Starting point is 01:46:15 lie. Oh, these people are willing to use physical violence that they have numerous times. They're willing to lie, as we've seen over and over again. And the right is not. If you want to win a conflict, you have to be willing to win a conflict. and if you're going to play the game where he say let's just let's let's appease them right do you want to be neville chamberlain or winston churchill do you want to be abraham lincoln or do you want to be buchanan i don't know that the difference that's why i said if trump doesn't
Starting point is 01:46:40 deal with this he will get on history as our as our second buchan hey i'm all i'm out do you do you want to beat the czar no that guy was that guy is no is a vestige of monarchy he's the example of a flawed monarch yep but but the epic example all of all of all I'm not even arguing that. But the point is, the point is he had the ability to save his country at one point. He really did. He could have unleashed his generals. He could have said, this is a building full of terrorists.
Starting point is 01:47:11 Go arrest all of them. He was not. I mean, he could have done a lot of other things. He could have conscripted them. Center to the front lines. Yeah. So depending on. Well, actually, the, the communists were very effective at infiltrating
Starting point is 01:47:28 the military early on. What I'm saying is when you have a building full of terrorists, you don't arrest them, you just, they were conscripted. What do you mean? They weren't, they weren't criminally charged with anything. They were conscripted to join the war effort like anybody else. Oh, they're all dead now. They're working the mines. Oh, they were working the lines. Then you send them off on a certain mission. But point is this, as we have seen time and time again throughout history, what did Buchanan do? Appeasement. And then what happened? South. He tried to. And Lincoln, came in and said, we're not going to tolerate this. If we, if, if for all the complaints,
Starting point is 01:48:03 people about Lincoln and like Sherman's March to the Sea, that is called the act, the raw exercise of power and it wins. If, uh, if Lincoln did not arrest the Maryland legislature, tyrannical, suspend habeas corpus tyrannical, conscripting people. Wow, very tyrannical. Splitting. They, the union splits West Virginia in half. They eliminate the South from Congress and then vote with only those who, who sided with Lincoln to retroactively, ratify his suspension of habeas corpus and he won. In America, when you, when you poll Americans, he is the most popular president in American history. And he would have been like the end of America if he failed. That's the crazy because he won. And so. But the point is that
Starting point is 01:48:45 he wasn't going to fail because he was willing to do, he was willing to break the law. So you know how we have. So Tim, would you, would you almost, uh, obviously I've been going, uh, people have been very upset that I tell the story of Franco in the book as well. and, you know, we became the first people to really start telling his response to the people trying to tear Spain apart in the 19- What an amazing story. In the 1930s, and people start losing their minds. And it almost sounds like you would almost equate, would you equate Lincoln and Franco? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:20 So, but what I would say, what's interesting about Franco is they actually tried appeasement. So before the Spanish Civil War, the, uh, the more. right-leaning side, the anti-communists, were like, okay, like, they won the election, let's see how things go. Then it started getting really bad as communists do. And then Franco, I think he was stationed in Morocco, he's like, guys, we cannot allow them to keep doing this, or we know what's going to happen. So then he got a group of his buddies together, sailed into Spain, and then some other military guys got war that they were planning a coup, kicking off the Spanish Civil War. And he won. There's also, there's also an interesting body of work out there
Starting point is 01:49:58 as to whether or not that was actually a fair election. Right. That the communists may have actually stolen that election to begin with, which was a huge contention during. And but even when they did, the reaction from the right was like, well, okay, you know, we're going to see what happens. But then Franco was watching and he was like,
Starting point is 01:50:12 guys, I see where this is going. And I'm not going to let it. And what did they start doing? They immediately started, let's see, they first they stole all the gold from the treasury of Spain and shipped it all back to Moscow because they're just criminals and thieves,
Starting point is 01:50:24 which nobody tells you. They allowed the Soviet Union to come in, and start taking over all the institutions of the Spanish government. And then they released their red brigades pretty similar like Antifa or you might see today. And they went through the countryside and they went to churches.
Starting point is 01:50:43 And if you were a priest, you were shot and killed or just stabbed on the altar. And if you were a nun, you were either marched out and mass killed outside or you would be raped inside on the altar then mass killed outside. and your body would be pressed up against the wall in the town square until it turned into a decaying skeleton.
Starting point is 01:51:06 Didn't they exhumed corpses as well? They sure did. Why? To desecrate. You desecrate them more. Mock, humiliate, demoralize. You know, we've got these contingencies if there's a nuclear war.
Starting point is 01:51:18 You know, the American military machine will fire off nukes to hit every city in Russia, every city in China. None of them will be left standing on the surface. Remember when we wanted to buy that Lenin statute, desecrate it. But I wonder if we have contingencies in place if a socialist revolution were to start to transpire in the United States. I went out there and I tried to get them to take, they said they were going to take it down and they didn't. You know what I mean, though, that we have some sort of fail safe in place. If we have one for nuclear war that we might have one for a socialist
Starting point is 01:51:44 or communist attempted revolution in the in the state. No. I couldn't agree more. We could we could call it the Franco option. No, to be honest with that, I think, look, just for, I mean, take this. I mean, literally, I mean, an option. But take this, take this with a grain of salt if you up. I think that invoking Franco is a bad idea. It's the best idea we've ever had. No, when you're articulating your argument, don't invoke Franco,
Starting point is 01:52:09 invoke Lincoln. Because Lincoln was willing to break the law, to do the things that were necessary to save the country, and Americans love Lincoln. Invoking Franco gives people, gives them the scaries, he was a fascist, blah, blah, blah, blah. He gives him the scaries. If you invoke Lincoln, everybody loves Lincoln. We need
Starting point is 01:52:28 a president that's willing to do what Lincoln did to save the country. We have a clear and present danger in this country. There are communists here that are winning elections. We need someone like Abraham Lincoln who's willing to do what's necessary to protect the United States from forces that want to tear it apart. They want to get rid of the presidency. They want to get rid of the Senate. They want to get rid of the electoral college. We need a president that will be like Lincoln and need to do what's necessary to save the union because people are going to get scared of foreign
Starting point is 01:53:04 fascists, but if you talk about Lincoln, everybody loves Lincoln. I don't think so, though, because, I mean, I've been doing this for two years and people broadly support talking about this. And yeah, I agree there are some people who are terrified of invoking someone who defeated communism
Starting point is 01:53:21 and from taking over his country. And by the way, like, we've said on this program that I am not calling for a Franco in the United States. But what I'm doing is pointing out that this was a time where there was abject evil going on and it was defeated. I understand what you're saying, but the normies, the normies that are outside of our circles,
Starting point is 01:53:43 they would be afraid of Franco. Lincoln, they're not afraid of them. We got to grab Rumble Rans and Super Chats. So get that in, smash the like button. Share the show. The insensored portion is coming up in a few minutes. But let's see what you all got to say. Josh says, what's your three favorite Naruto characters?
Starting point is 01:53:58 And what life lesson can be learned from the second best anime Naruto? What's the first best? You're talking about one piece? Naruto was the best. Shibuddin, the first 80%, and then it just got wacky. Shikamaru, one of my favorite characters. But no one character, I think, really stands out. Saratobi is cool.
Starting point is 01:54:24 My friend, Henry Dittman, does the voice, Kabuto. Oh, what? Cabuto. Kabuto Yakushi. Yeah, that he gets to give the voice. Okay, character. In the English one or the, yeah, he does the English. I don't know, he does the English voice for that guy.
Starting point is 01:54:37 That's cool. Geraya. Yeah, Henry's amazing. One of my favorite characters as well. Yeah. Yeah, he's such a guy. And I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:54:45 I like that dude's stone. The guy who like doesn't have any power. Rockley. Yeah, rock. Stone. Rock. Yeah, that guy's. He actually does.
Starting point is 01:54:53 He just can't use ninjitsu. So he's his Tai Jutsu. It's cool. Yeah. Is that like energy flow instead of kinetic force? It's physical, physical fighting. And so this question likely arises from when I mentioned opening the gate of death makes a red aura because your blood is evaporating out of your body as you die. And that is when you open your chakar gates, the limiters hold back how much a body you can handle.
Starting point is 01:55:15 It's the general idea is like when a mother gets crushed, or I'm sorry, when a baby gets crushed, the mother can lift the car. Yeah. So guy who uses Taijutsu, trains Rock Lee, and he teaches him out to open the gates. rapidly increasing your power, but it causes massive damage to your body, which the more gates you open, it incapacits you for a long amount of time. It's like you're sublimating the iron in your blood and it's coming out of you. Actually, I'm going to say this. There's a good point, Guy Sensei.
Starting point is 01:55:42 Because the probably the best moment and one of the worst lines in the dub is when Guy fights Madera and opens the eighth gate, the gate of death, and is so powerful physically that he bends space time as he punches Motta on the face. And that's all you needed. You didn't need Mata to say, I declare you the greatest Tai Jitsu user of all times. That was dumb. But it was cool to see him
Starting point is 01:56:07 go all out. And then he starts dying and Naira imbues him with some power to save. They call that frame dragging. When you hit someone so hard, they bend space time. There's a lot of massive stellar bodies will create frame dragging effects, but I think technically you could do it with a punch if it was hard enough. Indeed. All right. Mitho says, I would vote for the camel before
Starting point is 01:56:25 vote for Tucker Ctharlson. One way to put it. All right, let's see. Beltfed says, Tim, I love the show a long time. Listen, sir, I actually knew the cop that died in Vegas. We served in the Marines together in Weapons Company. He was an outstanding guy, sad to hear people reacted this way. I think it was because when they said his name, let me pull it up.
Starting point is 01:56:49 Let's see. Because this was just yesterday, right? This is the first I've heard of this. Let's see. his name was Austin Abdel Nabi and when
Starting point is 01:57:03 the guy gave him a mention people started booing and I think it's because some of them probably thought they were saying Abdul al-Sayed because they didn't know
Starting point is 01:57:14 and he was like no no no we're not booing him he was a cop who died in line of duty is this by the way is this quote you have up from I guess this Daily Caller from Syed is this real that quote
Starting point is 01:57:23 When they go low we take them to the mud and choke him out courage to stand up to the power brokers in our own party, let alone Trump and his goons. We don't back down. With all due respect, if they go low, we don't go high. We take them to the mud and choke him out. He's doing what Trump does. You know what I mean? There you go. Yeah. There you go. Complaining about negative. I see this through my life, these waves of people just coming up, complain about how bad it is, and then they get a surge of crowd love offering no solution.
Starting point is 01:58:06 And then it goes away. People realize, well, they're not a solver. They're a problem creator. And then it comes back and it like, it never stops. But I actually disagree. I think that a guy like that with the amount of resentment that he has, the amount of hatred that he has for white people, for American systems, American institutions,
Starting point is 01:58:23 he's there because he wants to say those violent things. He's there for increasing the amount of violence. He doesn't care about equality. He doesn't care about helping people. He wants to hurt people. So we got this from, and then it would be very clear about that. SX, DX, 10, the tip situation at certain places because servers in some states can elect to have their tips paid to them in cash.
Starting point is 01:58:43 The restaurant may not have that cash on hand. I've been in the situation. Yeah, I hear you, but I'm pretty sure if I tip the $1,000 to a server, they can say, this one I'm okay with. Just pay me when you can. I want the $1,000. It's insane that they'd be like, yeah, I would rather lose the $800 and take a $200 tip instead. That's just, this is not. It's insane.
Starting point is 01:59:03 But as for why DoorDash blocks high tips, I have no idea. Uber does the same. So from here to DC with an Uber, it's like $200, hour and a half drive. And so when I come from the airport, I'll be like, hey, I'm going to get you on the way back too because we're driving out to the Eastern Panhandle. They go, you got it. I got to get cash. Because when I go in the app and I try and put it in, it says, no, I won't let you. It says the maximum tip amount is much, much smaller. I always love getting cash tips when I was a waiter because you don't. Cash is king.
Starting point is 01:59:32 If they're digital, they automatically. get declared. If they're cash, you have to declare me. My friends, smash the like button. Share the show with everyone, you know. Follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. The uncensored portion is coming up. Jack, do you want to shout anything out? Um, I just say thank you for having me on. It's been, been a minute since you and I have been on together. And, yeah, so we're doing the second edition of Unhumans. It's going to be Unhumans Socialist Revolution. But we're going to be in the same studio soon. Uh, so I hear. Same. Same studio. We're good guys. We're all going to be in the same studio. We're going to be the same place. We're going to be paling around. We're going to be
Starting point is 02:00:06 mowing down. We're going to be broing down. We're going to be broing down. Let's get human dude. Let's do some human stuff. No, not I don't that sounds weird. That's the real antidote. No, see, see there there is it's people together. The antidote to the unhumans is is team humanity. I'm once you're gathering berries and plers. Sounds delicious. When I got to find plants. I know, it sounds fun, right? We should go do that. Tanya, uh, where Tanya's from back home, they have a lot of wild boar. There's got to be a business that allows that Where it's like
Starting point is 02:00:35 It's a basic like survival savari where you go out and say We're going to go hunt a board And then we're going to cook and eat it Field dress and everything And then we're going to do gathering for berries And then we're going to make dinner Tanya's dad literally I mean
Starting point is 02:00:47 You know you get a million dollar business You get a permit for it but yeah That's literally what he does Anyway Ian You'll rock and roll baby Happy to be here Ian Crossland always a pleasure Jack Philomante
Starting point is 02:00:57 I am Phila remains on Twix You can check out my Patreon It's patreon.com slash Phil That Remains. You can check out the band's music at Apple Music, Amazon, Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, and Dizer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime. Carter. Gee, heavy conversation about communism and socialism. I used to, like, it's really tough to understand what exactly motivates people to want power so badly, but it's pretty easy to understand why it fails every time. One of the clearest ways that I've read about it is in Frank DeCotter's book. It's called Mous Great Famine. Basically just shows you how. how you have to force people to do socialism by force, and that means, you know, hurting them. And it keeps going. But anyway, Jack, does your book have an audiobook? I'm curious. It does. So we have an audiobook where we have a couple audiobooks, actually. So we have an audiobook that was read, wasn't read by me originally, and something that I'd wanted to change.
Starting point is 02:01:56 And we're working on that, more on that to come. And so we hired an actor to do the original one, we get out in time. We also have a deal through our publisher with 11 labs. So if you go to 11 reader, I think it's 11reader.com, you can get access unhumans and you can have, you can choose any voice you want to listen to it. And we also, and it, which includes a spate of celebrities. So there's actually a version of unhumans you can get where John Wayne is the narrator.
Starting point is 02:02:27 And it's amazing. He's just like, Communists are the worst people on the planet. They hate you and they hate your whole family. Do you have to pick what voice when you... We're going to go to the... Yeah, you can change the voice as you're listening. Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
Starting point is 02:02:42 We'll see you all in 30 seconds.

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