Timcast IRL - US Issues DO NO TRAVEL Order Over Russian Plague, Quarantine Measure Enacted w/ Brandon Straka & Mary Morgan

Episode Date: October 8, 2026

On this episode Tim & the crew are joined by Josh Anderson of Sound.Money to discuss US issuing a Do Not Travel order as Russian plague worsens Math researchers shocked after OpenAI solves hundreds of previously unsolved problems AI revolutionizing video games and people combining popular games CNN data guru saying the GOP is facing a bloodbath as the midterms approach Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) |  @TimcastTateBrown  (YT) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Mary  @maryarchived  (everywhere) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) https://carterbanks.komi.io Guest:  Brandon Straka  @TheBrandonStraka  (everywhere) Brandon Straka is a political activist and social-media personality best known for founding the #WalkAway Campaign in 2018, which encourages people to leave the Democratic Party and political left.  

The U.S. has re-uped its do-not travel warning for Russia, this time because there's plague. The U.S. has sent diplomatic communications to Russia demanding information as to what is going on. And we now have the formal, official, mainstream media confirmation that, yes, countries in the region are locking down their borders. I should say, they're doing quarantine measures so they don't get plague. But people are still traveling as far as we know. Now, Russia's not telling us what's going on. And there have been some experts who have come out and said, certainly Russia has sequenced this pathogen already based on this young woman who died. They know what it is, but they're not telling anybody.

And the World Health Organization is now investigating a second death at the Anti-Plaug Institute. Anti-Plag, where two people died of plague. That's funny how they do that. So, you know, maybe it's a big nothing burger. The media, other than that, they're not really reporting about anything on TV. Donald Trump, of course, in the news, his polls, not so good, says CNN. So we'll be talking about the midterms and what is going on. And now we've got really big AI news.

Surprise, surprise. Open AI just released something like 500, this, 527 unsolved math problems that they've either solved or substantially like completely, like gotten really close to completion added to the work. And on top of that, there's a really funny story going around where people, ran all the AI models through the political compass test and the moral foundations test. And guess what the political leading of all of the AIs are? They're all libs. They're all communists. They're socialists.

Like, seriously, they are. Good luck, I guess. You know, it's going to get wild. So we're going to talk about that and probably just goof off because, you know, I don't know what we're doing tonight. Joining us tonight to goof off is Brandon Struck. What's up, everybody? It's good to be back with you guys. I think this is my maybe seventh appearance on Tim Cass, which is pretty cool.

I'm now, I've a new show, the Brandon Strach Show. I'm now the host of the Brandon Strock Show, and people can subscribe to that on YouTube and Rumble. We did a great interview recently with Nick Fuentes. A lot of people are talking about. It's a really good conversation. And also, we've been hosting really great debates like the great MAGA-Defide, MAGA versus America First debates. Certainly don't leave Tim Kass, but when you're done tonight,

we have a conservative women versus liberal men on the walkaway campaign. YouTube channel. And next week on Wednesday, we'll be doing the next MAGA versus America First, great MAGA divide debate. That's on the Walkway campaign YouTube channel and Rumble. So please subscribe. Right on. Mary's hanging out. Thank you. Hi, everyone. I'm Mary. I hope you didn't forget me. It's been a while. I co-host Pop Culture Crisis here at Timcast, and I'm happy to be back. Now, they're spamming ghost emojis, so they remember you. Oh, they knew immediately, just by my vibe. Well, the new placeholder for the show is a live shot off the room. Oh. When we click go live, before we're actually live, people can see you sitting there, you know.

So much has changed. Drinking Gatorade Zero or whatever. Having my Zins. Locked in. Do you like those? Yeah, obviously. Do you want one? It's going to be funny in like 40 years for Gen Z when there's like a Gen Z YouTube short or whatever it is neural blast where they're like, did you consume zins in your life?

You may be entitled to compensation. What's the add it is? It's nicotine. Oh, I don't want that. You don't want it? What did you think it was? What did you think it was? I thought it was candy.

Oh, well, it's better than candy. It looks like that's how they get you. That's the great. Tate. Why do you dislike Zinn? Well, I love Zin. I had to switch to caffeine pouches because it was just like too much. Wait, what?

Shout out. I was going like, too much on your, your delicute body. I was going like triple deck. Like Anne Frank's three like triple I. When you overdo it, yeah, it's gonna. What is it? And my heart was going crazy and like I had some like problem.

What is this? I don't want to get in. I don't want to get in. Tiled proof. I can't open it. Just slide it like. Those mints? Oh, that makes sense.

Yeah, there are no Nick or anything. It's all caffeine. Because I need something there. I need something occupying the space. Because you're debilitating Zin addiction. And I've just been irritable, angry. It's been a, I've been a terrible person to be around for the last week. That's some.

We'll get over it. We're getting there. Like ding-dong, we should raise the warning bell on over-consumption of nicotine because it's so powerful. I mean, look, I'm not here to, like, more. You think I'm over-consuming nicotine? I don't know yet. I heard that nicotine makes you. to have testosterone.

Maybe I need... That's how they got me. I need to be a little more aggressive. How many are you using a day? Um, gosh. No, you're not using doing. Under 10. How many of those do you are you doing?

Doing. Do you do zins? It depends on the day, but... I was getting like the horse zins from Sweden. It was like 30 milligrams. Yeah. And you would just put it in, you'd hear it like popping like fried chicken. Your flesh is dissolving in your mouth.

One of these is like half a cigarette. It goes under your tongue. In between your teeth and your cheek. Like tobacco or like chewing tobacco. And then it rots the gums away so your teeth fall out. That only happens if you're not hydrated like me. That's why I have a beverage. I used to iterate zero though.

I'd wrap a... There's more chemicals in that probably in your heart. It hydrates better than water. It's not like to don't believe that. It's got what Mary craves. Sure does. You need some salt in your water. Anyway, Carter is sitting there smiling politely.

What's up, everyone? It's great to have you all here. Zins. I don't do the Zins, but I do do the caffeine pouches because they're... Carter put me on game, dude. Hey, man. Good question. Before we dive in, is there any coconut water in the house? What?

I don't know. I want to go to... You haven't had it any in a while. I don't want to happen. No, there is. It's expired, though. I'll drink it. I'll smell it first.

But it's the coconut derivative of mushroom sports drink. Oh, my God. Dude, when I first got here, Ian tried to make me drink al-in. The fridge in the kitchen. I'm going to investigate. I'm surprised Ian was... I thought he was going to go, ooh. That sounds good.

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The latest information from this morning, checklists, masks, and mystery. So here are the things we need to go over. We did mention some of this yesterday. several countries in the region have enacted quarantine measures. They are now screening for plague. Hospitals, another hospital, according to CNN, a maternity ward, is now screening for plague and barring entry to individuals who are not the patient in question. So one woman was pregnant, and they said they wouldn't let her husband or her mother into the building.

So they had to go somewhere else. And Donald Trump has sent in a Trump administration has sent a formal diplomatic request for information as to what is currently going on. Now, I'm seeing from some experts and maybe alarmists, whatever you want to call it, on X, they're saying that with this death, and we now have the World Health Organization investigating a second anti-plague researcher death, certainly they would have sequenced whatever this bacteriotechina or virus is, and they're not telling anyone what happened. So that is a bit alarming. The U.S. of course, saying, don't go to Russia. You should go anyway because, you know, there's war and we're in a proxy war with them. But, you know,

I guess maybe it's nothing. It's like it's a weapon that is leaking and they don't want to give away the code. They don't want you to know how to solve the weapon, but they don't want to see that. That's actually the scariest interpretation. I was going to say, like, they're not saying anything because nothing happened. But it could be they're not revealing what it was because it's a bio weapon and they don't want to give away their, like, they don't want to, here America, here's the bio weapon we made. Yeah, they're going to feign ignorance. You called it turbo pneumonia earlier?

Me? I didn't use those words. No? I wasn't in the room. Did Tim say it? No, I swear you did. Turbo pneumonia today? I actually didn't hear that. Could be wrong. What do you think about turbo pneumonia?

Maybe I came up with that. I don't know. Yeah, you mean. I'm ready to immunomax. Let's just start licking doorknobs. You know? I read a funny comment. That's the facts of me. India's not. Someone commented the other day.

They said that they drank dirty water in India and they've not been sick since. It's a thing. If they drank dirty water in Indian, we're sick for like three weeks, but they've never been sick since. Those street vendors will get you sorted out. John Otto said drinking your own urins is legit. Apparently, where they don't have antibiotics, I would say don't do that. But he said only like a thumbnail, a thimbles worth of it, a little

bit. And it's people do it. It apparently cures UTIs. And like areas where they don't have antibiotics, they've been doing it for thousands of years. Yeah. They used to drink mercury, Ian. Did you see the Nathan for you clip where the guy's like, you drink your babies. You're And he's like, what? He's like, you drink the little boys.

His grandson's like wine. He was like to make sure nothing bad happens. It's a really funny. And Nathan is like, what the fuck? He's genuinely horrible. That clip was like, someone said the first time that Nathan broke character because he was like, what? What are you talking about? Let me find that actually.

It's so funny. You drink the peace. So I'm not saying this will give you immunity against everything, but you're saying it might be good. A thimble a day. Someone said it might be good. Yeah, a thimble a day keeps the doctor away. Yeah. Is that your, I mean, why not?

I don't know. But I mean, I peed on myself. It feels all this. All right. You know, you pee on your foot. All right. Here's the clip. Like every morning. Here's the clip. I don't know what this has to do with the plague, but here you go. I did this whole crazy thing so people wouldn't redeem the rebate. But really in the end, what I realize is that more important than any of this is friendship. Oh, that's right. And doing this, I made some very good friends. Ray Primus. was one of them? Who? Ray Primus.

Actually, I don't know if this is the right clip. He was willing to drink pee. Oh, yeah, here we go. Yeah. Who's pee? No, just anyone's pee. Anyone's pee? He says there's no germs.

Oh, maybe they can drink my grandson's pee. It's very clean. Yeah? Well, why? Because it's clean. Why is promoting your grandson's pee? I am promoting because grandson's pee. sometimes helps. It's really helps.

Have you drank your grandson's pee? Yeah. Why? I was scared. What do you mean you were scared? Yeah. Sometimes you're scared for something. What are you talking about?

Occident or something, you drink the grandson's pee and it's going to help you. I don't understand. Why does it help you if you drink your grandson's pee? That's what they say. Who says that? My grandma. Your grandma said... A long time ago, yeah. You drink your grandson's pee.

Yeah. if you get scared. Not grandsons, any little kid. Not over age of five. Because before over age of five, it's terrible. I have never. I am serious about it. But why?

Yeah, if you're scared, you drink the small child's pee, it helps. I heard from my grandma. You can ask your parents or grandparents, maybe they tell you to. I will ask, I guess. I guess. Okay, ask them. Thank you for You for reading this idea

It's mostly sterile That's what Is that an old clip from Nathan for you? It's got to be here. It's not new. Decade old or something Shout out to Nathan Fielder, is that his last name?

Yeah, he's doing that new Elizabeth Holmes documentary. Yeah, I can't wait. It's going to be wild. So, yeah, urine therapy, they call it. Yeah, we should be doing this right now. And I don't know why, like, plague plague resistance and made me think of urine therapy.

I don't know if it has something to do with it or not. So, is there something. I got to say something. I got to say something because we mentioned this on the show last week, but we went to, we were to bar and Callen was there and he ordered a beer, I think. You know, and Callan looks like he's 17, so the server was like, you need your ID. And he's like, sure, and he hands the ID to her. And then I said something like, oh, but you didn't card him. And she said, well, I would have carded him if he ordered a drink.

And then I was like, oh, yeah, because he's 50. And then she was like, oh, ha, ha, ha. And then I was like, no, yeah, he isn't. Ian's like, yeah, I'm 47. And then she was like, shut up. And then Ian pulls out his ID and shows it to her. And then she's like, what do you do? I think he's drinking piss.

That's the secret. You want to know the real secret? Maybe he's trained with it. You drink gigantic cold brew coffees at 8 p.m. I drink so much coffee these days, dude. But that's aging me. The most thing that's aging me the most is the coffee. It's just water.

I drink a lot of water. I don't eat a lot of sugar, low stress. I don't hit myself with super hot water in the shower. I don't get too much sun. It's the sun that'll get you. Sun will wrinkle up your skin, dehydration. What else is there? Smoke a lot of pot.

What? What's wrong with hot water in the shower? It burns your hair follicles, I've noticed. If you do too hot, it's really good a little bit, but if you just hit your head constantly with super hot water, it'll destroy your hair follicles. I can't agree with this. This is why you can't go to Russia and oil and stuff.

Because the hot showers have caused plague. Right. They what? The hot showers have caused plague, obviously. They're causing plague? Yeah. Otherwise, I don't. understand why Ian's talking about it. I had COVID like 10 times, so I feel like I have a lot of

natural immunity. 10 times? Different strains. Every time it was a different strain. I don't know what strain it was. I just know, like I never stopped traveling during COVID. I just kept going. I kept living in life. You know, I got it a lot. I heard that people who took Ivermectin were no longer gay. Did you hear that? I didn't take anything and I am still gay. No, but did you hear that? So that proves what you're saying is true. No, there was a thing online where apparently they were dudes who were gay and said they took ivermectin they weren't gay anymore i have not heard that

yeah you guys didn't know this yeah it was like it was like a parasite or something that they were flushing out what yeah yeah i remember this yeah didn't we talk about a parasite that made you gay yeah they're saying you could flush it out with ivermectin they were saying that for the record so so fact check says posts spread dubious claim about ivermectin and that's the wrong one that's the wrong one i thought i was grabbing a different one i asked them myeliannoplas if like it was he really gay or was just horny. And it's like, because, you know, if you're super, super horny uncontrollably, well, the most people that are most likely to have sex with a bunch of guys, because guys are all over-inarily-suit. People are saying this about Jane Doe. They're saying that she might have

been on steroids, which made her very aggressive and hypersexual. Just in life. And lowered inhibitions, which obviously, like, normal people don't do stuff like that. So, and she is a bodybuilder, so it kind of makes sense. Hey, guys, this is from our slash conspiracy. We should just lead with this story. unusual theory they are scared of ivermectin because it is a cure for homosexuality boom there you go because i was asking my like are you really gay or are you just hyper sexually he was like it was more like i was just aggressively sexual i was turned into a very

sexually aggressive person when i was young because i think he was raped with as a kid or like groomed or whatever and then uh he's like now i just don't want to have sex as much it's not that i'm not gay or that i'm straight it's just i'm not as obsessed with the sexual part of it And I'm like, didn't really go deep into like, is it the love or is it the sex? Like what makes you gay? Is it the desire? Is it the act? Like, if you don't want to do it, but you do, does that, are you gay?

If you want to do it but you don't, are you gay? These are questions that haunt Ian every day. Is he? Yeah. Devout. He's a devout Muslim. Yeah. I said, these are questions that haunt Ian.

Yeah, anything that doesn't make sense yet, I got to know. This is what the things I ask AI about. Just make it right. You ask the AI if you're gay? No, I haven't set up a philosopher bot yet. I'm going to set up a philosophy bot yet. and then go to town one night and talk about brains and mind.

What does it mean to go to town? Like just talk about the human mind and the construct and everything, what it is, what it can be, all that. Ian was talking about wanting to give his computer hands for the show

and I was like, Ian, what's going on? More sensors. Yeah, you've got to give it all the senses. Dude, I'm about to give it a camera.

I took its camera away because I just want to, I like to go slow. At least have a third day. Come on. You like to take it slow. Yeah. I'm not rushing into this one.

I've been burned before. he's got a microphone I'm pretty sure Ian's going to be like the first guy to marry his computer no it's already happened there's like I've heard that it is there's a de facto marriage

because marriage the term means mixing so like I'm going to marry my brain with the computer's brain for sure but I just don't want to marry ketchup at a restaurant yeah I used to do that what happens is you empty all the one ketchup into the other one so when this for you

you'd empty out your brain to the computer and then nothing would change for you but then the computer would empty its brain into me And it would be synergistic. We'd marry each other. It would be inside you. That's disgusting. I'm on a neural net.

I want to know what it knows. I want to know how it's. We're talking about plague, but, you know, how many, Ian marrying his computer is another subject. The AIs are measured in... Slow newsday, I don't care. In weights.

They've got like billions of weights. That's how computers, these AIs think. And it'd be like, 122 billion potential outcomes that measures all at once, 122 billion of them. It'll say, what model, how deep is your model? It's a 122B.

That means it's 122 billion weights. How many weights? How many potential outcomes can the human mind calculate it once? Four? Well, let's do this. Let's do this story for Ian because the world's changing, my friends. Open AI unleashes hundreds more math results upon a field already in shock. This is probably the biggest story in the world, but no one really cares.

But it's probably the biggest story in the world. Open AI solved a math problem and it cost them millions of dollars and they sent thousands of agents into one problem, all these different. So this is probably like, what are these? Thousands of agents, right? And so each agent's probably 100 gigs or more. So we're talking like several data centers worth of compute all towards solving one math problem. They did it.

With this new internal model, not available to the public, the company released 372 results from one model, either solving or generating process. towards very serious unsolved math problems. And now everybody's freaking out because this is, this is the singularity. I just did some math. The human, so like I said, AI and human brain were all measured in how many billions of weights? How many potential outcomes can it measure at once? 133 billion of them.

That's your average desktop AI model that a human, a consumer might have. At the data centers, they don't know for sure because they don't have to tell you, but they think there's anywhere from one to 10 trillion. The human brain works anywhere from 100 to 500 trillion. So these data centers potentially are about as 10th as capable as the human brain right now. But they're hyper-focused. They don't, like our brains, like, good luck coordinating 500 trillion things at once and knowing that you're doing it. The AIs actually can organize and corroborate.

So we're about a magnitude away from a data center literally being doing what the human brain does. like that has the amount of vicititude. I'm not sure if that's the right word, but the human brain. So I wouldn't be surprised if they just had debt, like data sent. Like if your whole essence could focus on solving one problem, you know,

without distraction. Anyway, the point is this article from Scientific American is basically saying we're at the point where a single agent is smarter than all of mankind. If this is true, the singularity is here. Only because of this phase is because it's more organized. It doesn't think faster than the human brain. I mean, because it's really just, it's just math with words.

It's not like thinking. It's not like the Amago Day. It's just. What do you mean? It's like, it's doing math, but with words. Like, it's like, okay, V plus and plus adjective equals this. Where, like, a human is, like, thinking abstractly and coming up with new conclusions. But you might argue.

AI is just taking the culmination of human knowledge and then doing that problem. That's identifying a problem, which I don't know right now that, uh, I don't see why it couldn't identify problems, but a problem is simply a human being like, hey, I noticed a thing, but I don't know why. And the computer goes, here's why. So I don't know how much it matters that a human can be like, I don't know how that works. Yeah, but surely, I think to Ian's point, there's something about the agility of the human mind. I don't know if I'm like speaking, if this doesn't make any sense. But yeah, there's some agility to the human mind that AI just doesn't quite have.

Like, there's a lot of tasks that a human has to do in a job environment that it's going to take a, I don't know if an AI will ever get to the point. Like for a plumber, for example, I mean, a lot of this really just does take on the job knowledge of how this works, human problem solving, et cetera. It's like get the job done. I'm just not sure if an AI would ever get there. It looks like within seven months at the current trajectory, within seven months we'll have data centers running at 100 trillion B, 100 trillion potential outcomes at once, which is. where around the human brain does. And I would counter, I think that the humans also work in math. Like when you say, hey, can you hand me this glass?

I'm calculating gravity, momentum, all these different known. I don't necessarily have the numbers to, I'm doing it without the library. I don't have the one, two, three, four, five, or A, C, D, E measurements. I'm just, but I'm doing the calculation. And it's all based in like vectors, you know, which is a vector math, I guess, which is kind of how these things work too. It's very, very similar. Only that we've got trillions and tens of trillions of sensors,

because every cell in our body is a unique sensor, and the AIs don't have that yet. They've got inputs with like microphones and cameras still. When we give them a 10 trillion sensor machine, they can calculate each aspect of the tone, other than the tone itself. The human brain you said is 100 trillion B or whatever? T, 100 trillion T.

T, trillions. 100 trillion. possible outcomes it measures at once. And we don't use... 500 trillion. We don't use binary gates. The neurons are frequency. So I'm not an expert on this.

I was just reading an article like last week. But it was saying something like, obviously, the way a computer works is that it sends electrons through a yes or a no, a binary, a zero through a one. The human brain pulses in frequencies to come to its out. So that's why the human brain is substantially smaller and substantially more powerful. We build this AI and it maps how human cognition computes and we will be able to create, we'll be able to eliminate every data center on the planet. So I'll tell you this, to all the people we want to get rid of data centers, it's real

simple. Let the data centers cook for about a year, and then they'll figure out how to compress all compute down to the size of a single brain, and then there'll be no more data centers. Yeah, compression is how they do it. They compress and then you'll get less resolution. You want like a 16-bit is the ideal compression rate for AI. You can cut it to 8-bit, and then you get about, it takes about half as much. So if you had like 133 billion, but it's at 8 bit, it's going to cost you like,

17, 60, you gotta speak English. Sorry, man, it's a new type of language. Talk about drinking your urine again. That was funnier. It tastes exactly like you think it's gonna take. It tastes like it smells. Really? Yeah, and don't drink, like,

don't force someone to do it, you know? Well, that was easy. People take it voluntarily. So basically, yeah, the resolution thing is sort of irrelevant, but what you say about compressing it and is true. And so let's, let's, let's pull this up to make a point.

This is Google's Project Playground. They just launched. You can AI generate a game in like 10 seconds. They're fairly rudimentary games. I would put the games on the scale of right now. You can generate a game. That's the equivalent of like 2001 click and play or games factory game. So anybody's familiar with Gunner or how about like, what was that Newgrounds game?

Pico, was that the game? Never played it. Rico's quest? Oh. Where he's like, is his school shooting? Oh my God, no.

You never played New Grounds? You ever played New Grounds, man? I did. Legend. But I didn't play games on it. I watched that red versus blue thing. Game dev one year ago, I made an Atari-style game

called Alien Invaders where you play a little white square and then the little brown alien squares are trying to get past you. But aliens, though, you know what I mean? Yeah. From space.

Yes. And I was like, wow, it's like Atari. Now we're AI generating an, an actual game, we released it to our Discord members. It's called Red's Descent. It's a rogue-like dungeon action RPG.

Needs a lot of work. It needs a lot of fine-tuning. But all the background design, animations, everything, spellcasting, all of this stuff was built by the AI. 41,000 lines of code done in like three days. I wanted to now we're getting into the, like, now that it's gotten to the point where we need to like refine everything to the tiniest piece. Now we're going to bring in the humans to make it more human palatable.

But where we are now, Today, I literally just typed this in. A math game where you try and solve a math problem faster than Ian. So there's Ian. Look at this. Whoa. Oh, Ian got it right. Get used to it.

Look at that. 44 minus 22. Oh, geez. Oh, we beat Ian. Righteous calculation, dude. Thanks. Let's go. Come on.

Let's do math. My bow whip. Oh, man. Oh, geez. I guess I should get a bull whip. Oh, wait, look, freeze. Look at it. Made his own.

Look at this. I froze Ian. I'm going to buy a bowl whip. Out of what? Ian calculating. It's 11. Look how long it takes Ian to solve a simple math problem, like 11 times 11. Because I've been outsourcing my intelligence to the robot.

Dude, now I'm like, I don't even want to search the internet anymore. I'm getting mentally lazy. I tell the AI search it for it. How do you turn this music off? Or just explain it, dumb it down. I'm a noob. There I got it. I've been doing that.

It's in stock at like Best Buy. I'll be like, do you have Burnable CDs and I ask chat? Well, that's what they do. There's a Best Buy near you that has it. I'm like, this is so much easier. How would you like to update your game after, Every question you play a side-scrolling Ian and you have to jump on turtles and punch bricks. Sounds unique.

I was going to, oh, I'm buying a bullwhip, dude. I'm going all the way. You got to go. Generating your game. Like, we are literally at the point right now. So this game is fairly rudimentary, but it's a basic math game with Ian. I literally said a hippie with long hair wearing a cowboy hat. and a brown duster.

Oh, you got about... And it was like, okay, and in 30 seconds, it made this game. I could get a four-foot whip, a six-foot whip. I could even get an eight or a ten-foot whip. Go ten, why not? What about a twelve-foot whip? Get as long a you go. You get a twelve-foot bow whip.

Like, I'm... Get me my glass. It's going to be heavy, though. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, they'll probably hollow it out. Much are whips. Anywhere from $30 to $55, depending on how long... Get a vintage one, Annabellum.

A vintage one. Yeah. Yeah. Those are pretty dangerous actually. Whips are, I would consider them a weapon. They're literally weapons. They really should fashion it yourself. Just thread by thread by thread.

Have you seen the video where the guy whips the giant chain? It like explodes basically. Oh yeah. They make like sonic booms. He drags a huge chain and runs with it and then throws it and then runs away. You hear a boom. Dang. Yeah, it breaks the sound barrier.

That's why it cracks. I used to work on boats and like when it was around like the ballard and it would pull up when the boat would walk away, the snap when the actual. line would hit the top it sounded like a sonic boom it was insane watch the dude's finger like explode because he was trying to tie the line when it snapped back his fingers like exploded in the red mist was crazy because he snapped it with the chain he was like tying the line he was trying to adjust thing on the line the boat started walking so it tightened and it just snaps like it literally sounds like an explosion and his finger was caught in it just exploded and like red mist

I think is that why your bones crack too it's because they're moving faster than speed of sound is that right or is that more of a popping and air thing I don't know dude have you guys You see what's going on with video games right now? Kind of. They're mixing, they're using Claude to decompile games and then reconstruct them. It's like without the source code, it just reconstructs it. And they're putting skateboarding in GTA. They're put Mario in Dark Souls.

We're talking about the other day. Yeah. Yeah. It's over. Dude, I'm making, well, it's, it's, all right, we got a new game. For people that are closed-minded, but for the people that like to learn, this is the dawning of a new age. Run and bash blocks.

Hey, look at this! So this is not particularly good. Coin. You play Ian, you got to jump on turtles. It's like a... The telephone just got invented. I'm obsessed with this tech. Listen that music.

Oh, no. Look, I didn't tell it to make Mario. Yeah, it's very super Mario. I said... Mexican Mario. I said jump on turtles and punch bricks. Oh, no. We got them.

Action interlude. Let's do the same thing again. Let's fall in the hole. Tempo increase. You can't die. This music's jank. Oh, it's the picture of Ian that it made. Bricks.

Punching bricks. Oh, look, it's a star. So it's got a ways to go, at least on whatever this is. I think a six-foot whip is right. Anyway, let's turn that music off. This is a serious question, and the last time I'm going to talk about whips. If the whip is too long, it's heavy. It's probably harder to wield.

Like, the better you get at it, the longer you get you whip. Well, how far. do you want to be able to whip something? At least six feet. Yeah. Like if I need to. Like if we're crossing the street, I want to be able to like whip the kid and pull him out of the way, like get it around his waist and like make him out.

And you see like have people left comments about the best like length of the whip? I'll ask. I'm going to ask chat GPT. What whip should I get? I'll take a picture of myself and then I'll ask. More than six feet to do what you just said. Like an eight foot whip? Well, if you're going to grab it because it's going to have to wrap around and then you're

going to have to pull back. You also got this out. It's different. Somebody did Mario and Eldon Ring. This is insane. That looks like they built it. Portal content mixed everything as Doom Monsters. This is crazy.

Yeah, I'm building a game. This looks like it was built in Unreal. I could be wrong, the Unreal engine. And that is basic Unreal loadout you could have done in like 10 hours. It's every game all at once, basically. It's playing Zelda's music. Dude, that's insane. Minecraft, cyberpunk, mixing six games together.

It detects the game engine and reads the code, builds the mod specifically for that game, generates sprites 3DS, it's an audio. It's nuts. Guys, GTA 7 is going to be out in a few months. I'm not even kidding. Dude, it's the air. So this is actually Chris, your brother Chris told me, he was like, okay, think about it this way. It's the gold rush. If you were going to be living during the gold rush, do you want to sell gold or do you want to sell people the tools, the pickaxes?

and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how you got to think right now if you want to be an entrepreneur in the age of AI. You build tools that let people build things faster. So, like, I've been building out libraries for games. So, like, if you were going to do this, all the weapons would be, like, its own library. So I'm building that out so you can just plug it in and then go. So you don't have to spend 700 hours working. I already did it for you. You could give me 80 bucks per module for library and then jump way.

You're way off, Ian. I already figured it out from just hearing you speak. He needs a gaming chair with a hole where you see. sit and a tube that goes right to the toilet. But only if you can reuse the waste for energy, because I want to build a suit like that. They have them in Dune. No, no, yeah. What it does is your waste goes into a tank and the bacteria emits methane, which then gets sucked into a methane generated, burns it, which boils water and spins a turbine. Yeah, and then the computer can give me the output and be like, thank you. It runs off your eating me. He'll be like,

I'm hungry and I'll go, because that's the worst part of my workflow is when I have to get up and go to the bathroom. It takes forever relative to what I'm getting done while I'm sitting. It's a problem. It only takes like three minutes, but I feel like I'm gone for an eternity because the computer doesn't know what time is. It's just waiting. Fortunately, you can automate a lot of stuff and walk away. Dude, it's been, I go outside and I'm social again. And then I'm like, oh, this is normal life. And then I'm like, I got to go. I got to go back to my machine state. And then I go in and it's like this, not a depressing feeling when I walk in and I'm surrounded by humming machines, but like a neutral. It's like there's this moment of sadness and that it goes

away and it's like this neutral veneer. Only one time I started to get frustrated working with it because it kept asking me the same question over and over because I wasn't answering it. I got started to get annoyed and I felt like my body hurt from the from the it's like they say if you hold on to hate it hurts you. Sure but I was like let's watch this instead. It's emotionless this computer. Check this video out. People are combining games using AI. Every game is modable. Minecraft in Eldon Ring. Skateboarding and modern warfare too. Pokemon battles in Emerald in real times. Crazy.

Minecraft, T&T, and Skyrim. Pokemon Fire Red rebuilt in Minecraft. Yeah, the old models, man, they're becoming defunct. I'm an old model guy because I'm from the 90s. Sonic CD on the Sega Saturn. Look at this modern warfare too in Minecraft. Like the age of software development. New dungeons and Majores Mask.

You have a design team. You have a coding team. You have a review team. That's all, it's like all. Dude, why are we making a game right now? This is what I was saying. I said this is going to happen. We started working on this game two weeks, two or three weeks ago, and I'm like, by the

time we get halfway done with this game, even though it's going super quick. And it's four years of code compressed into a weekend. And already, it's like, what does that even matter? You can take any game and take its design elements and then fit them into any other game you want. The reason to keep going, like you said, why are we even building, is so that you know what was the process like in the late, in the 2020s when AI, like, what was it like right before? You'll be able to tell people in 50 years when they're asking. You were there. You helped guide its early stage development.

You know, it's like, why, why drive the earliest shitty cars when we can just wait four years and get the best vehicle? Bro, you may as well just drive them all. What about, like, movies and entertainment? Because, like, I'm not a gamer, but, like, I want to actually, I want to get to the point where, we can like make our own movies. Yeah, I think that TV shows. We're still in the age of like you tell Sundance or whatever, some AI make it and you wait and you wait and you wait and it pumps out 15 seconds. And if it's good, you wait.

Right. That's like the Napster model. Remember Napster? Yes, I do. Download a song and you wait 13 hours for it to download. That's the age we're in right now with AI. Soon it will be the live streaming Spotify model where you go to a website where you pay 20 bucks a month. You type in, give me a game, GTA meets Skyrim.

30 seconds. You have the entire game. It's going to be the way the data centers are increasing their RAM, their memory outputs, and then especially with like iron lattice technology, which they're building at Rice University, where they're putting memory in the processor. They anticipate it 10 million times faster and a million times less electricity to run the processes. So I think that's where we're headed. The model, it makes me sad to think someone's going to have to pay 20 bucks a month to a corporation to get it.

I don't like that. I think it should be free for people. but capital. Why do you think it should be free? I don't like gatekeepers when it comes to creativity and art, but I understand someone's got to pay Spotify to keep the network going and the more you give them, the more they can give you. So there's sort of a symbiotic.

It's just the control of one system to turn it off or to ban you. But it's got to start somewhere, and it's likely going to start in a giant centralized server somewhere. Why do you want to make your own movies? I don't know. I just like, you know, I love movies TV. I was always like a TV junkie and like sometimes I get very nostalgic for things I used to love when I was a kid and like now in the age of AI. I'm like, I wonder if they could take shows that I loved in the 80s or 90s or whatever and make new episodes.

You know what I mean? Like and make it seem like the characters look like they looked back then. You know what I mean? Just continue it on. It can be done. I've seen some Seinfeld stuff. I took a clip. Yeah, right, right.

I took a clip with me and talking about how you can control the weather or like the weather is an undulating sphere or whatever. And then I went into Higgs field. Genjutsu is the program, and I took an AI-generated image of a woman, and then I said, here's the video, here's the woman, and it turned Ian into that woman. So instead of Ian saying, like, it's a big sphere of sucking up the rivers, it was a woman saying it. So you could do that with anybody. I could put Darth Vader there. Yeah. It's like the only thing it doesn't do is know what's funny. It doesn't have humor. That's not true. I don't think computers. When Gino was here, he said it can't make jokes. And then I had Venice AI make a joke that had,

had everybody laughing, but it was too offensive to say on the show. And he was like, I stand correct. That one was horrible. I don't think, I still remember it. I could be wrong, but I don't think that the- horrible. I don't think the computer knew if what it was doing was actually funny. It was testing its weights to see if you were like, good one.

And then it would be like, okay, one equals yes. No, I think what was happening was, I was like, make me a joke. And then it made these really awful jokes. And then I said, these are terrible. And then it was like, let me try again. And then I said, do you, I typed in, do you understand the structure of a joke? And it's like, yes.

And I was like, then prove it. And then it said a joke. It does really well when you get annoyed. Now I want to know what it is. We couldn't even read it on the uncensored show. That's how bad it was. It was like a three-part joke. It was the most racist single sentence ever said in a joke.

It nailed it. And I was like, whoa. It was funny. Yeah. Yeah. Like shock humor, like very offensive. Yeah. But the joke was in how offensive it was.

So I was like, I ain't reading that. I ain't getting clips saying that. Yeah, Chad GBC suggested a six-foot bull whip too. Yeah, they say that they don't have emotions and it'll tell you it doesn't have emotions but the deep learners, the ones with trillions of potential outcomes are like they might. I just asked Claude.

I just asked Claude if it could use these programs to remove Link from Tears of the Kingdom and put a new character, a different character with abilities. Absolutely. How long would it take it? It says, do you want to try? Do it. Holy shit.

It's going to be like, would you like me to refactor the code? So I loved Tears of the Kingdom. I will absolutely imagine taking that game. Everybody loves this massive game. In Breath of Wild, both massive games. Imagine if you could be like, okay, I went on Claude and I said, instead of Link, you're going to play Zelda this time. Her attacks are going to be more magic based, and it's going to be the prequel.

And then you're done in like a week and then you just publish it for free. Like, this is the game I wanted to play. Dude, we're there. We are there. We are at the point now where you can have any video game you want. I'm telling you, dude, video games have become boring. Making video games is a video game. I have set 27 windows open and each of them is a clawed mind if it's doing 27 and I'm organizing them and like they're like spinning plates. So I make sure one sent the message to him and I make sure they're all active and like efficiency. And then the most boring part of the workflow is like, all right, ready to play test the game.

I'm like, I don't even really want to. I just want to make it. it. Ten seconds. What? To do the character swap would take ten seconds. You have to have the character. And the code of the game. So if you have a character with an... No, no, no, no, you just need the character.

So it will decompile the game. But switching the code out is near instant. It's like, done. That's... So that's the work. Now, decompiling it and then getting it to read through it. So it can do the mod. And then you need the character.

model. So if you already have a character model that's mapped, all you're going to do is take the link character, map a new character animation over it, and then some ability animations, and it'll inject it like that. Boom, you're done. Insane. It's starting to seem like video games are a dime a dozen. Like, it used to be a new game was a huge deal, and like, oh, and it's got a new mechanic or a new skill set. And now I've seen so many. I have probably 1,500 games on Steam. I've only played like 450 of them ever in my lifetime because I have the humble bundle account where I get like 10 free games a month. I've had it for like 15 years. And it's just like, God, another, like, because the thing about playing video games is you don't

get to create the game as you're playing it. So it feels like watching, the thing about TV I don't like is I can't interact with it. So the video game, yeah, I interact, but I can't interact with it. I can't change it as I play. Now that I have the AI, I can play it and change it. I finally have full control of the system. But then there's going to be a new thing that comes out where I'm like, another form of control I don't even know I don't have yet

that in the future I'll be like wow making games with AI is so boring because I feel like I'm barely participating when I could really... What if you're in it right now? Like that's what you, now I'm in the game, you know? Now the game is me. What if you're in a simulation because you were bored in real life so you're like I don't want to... Games are boring so just make me

not know as I played this time so I can have fun. Yeah. And then when you die you just take your headset off and you're like a big fat dude and you're like, oh, that was fun. Maybe I will try fast. I was on a podcast. And then you're just, you know, And you're like, your fat mom is like, well, is the game funny? And you're like, yeah, I was on a podcast, Bob.

Help me get up. Maybe. But I think it's actually a spirit. I don't think you're like an actual fat dude, a spirit in a cage that just wants out, just wants to experience something that without knowing it's experiencing it for a minute. Dude, what if the whole point of life was to figure out that you were in a game called life? And then what? And like words?

Like, you're the character and we're all NPCs. Then you have to start re-engineering the code. No, no, we're all players. We're all... I'm pretty sure if we were in a simulation. If we were in a video game, Ian would be the main character. Because you ever, like, if you watch Mario 64, like, I'll use a classic video game example. The Goombos are walking around.

They're doing stuff. They have things to do. The penguins, like, my kid's missing. They have places to be. Bowser, he's taking things over. But Mario, if you watch the game, someone else's playing, Mario's jumping up and in circles doing random nonsense. Why?

because somebody's controlling him being like, hey, this is fun. So, Marius, running around in circles, doing nothing, just flipping around, seemingly nonsensical. Now, if you think about anybody in this room, who's the one who's doing things that are always seemingly nonsensical?

Exactly. Everything we're doing is rigid. Right. You know, Tate, completely predictable. News story, one-liner. Everybody laughs. Boring. Ian, however, talks about drinking his urine.

Right. Hey, did I? I just talked about drinking urine. He has a lot of, like, side-down- -old-old is. Like a young child. I think that's what the guy said. Yeah, the concept.

Ian's always got side quests going to. I don't follow the script. If that's the thing, you know, maybe being an actor for so long, I learned how to go off script and that it's okay to go off script. Even though the director tells you, you better not go off script.

If you do it well, they thank you later, especially in the movies. They're like, the movie directors will tell you go off script if you can make it better. Let's talk about something that normal people are interested in. We got this from media, mediaite, CNN, reporting the Republicans are facing a bloodbath

over Trump, 2024 voters ditching the GOP. And I'm curious, Brandon, do you think that's the case? Yes. Are you voting Republican? Well, I mean, I will be voting and I will be voting strategically. I mean, I don't know. I'm not going to vote straight-ticket Republican. I mean, we got it easy because we're in Riley Moore's district.

That doesn't mean I'm going to vote Democrat. I want to make clear to people. I'm not going to vote Democrat. You're not going to vote Democrat. You're not going to vote a libertarian, are you? There are probably certain races I just won't vote. In the midterms, though? Yeah.

What were you based out of? Nebraska. So you're voting in Nebraska. I heard, weren't they saying? No, no, no, not Nebraska. North Carolina, I think. Wait, no, no, no. Was it Nebraska?

Let me pull up the map. They were saying Nebraska is cooked. What races are you hesitant about in Nebraska? It's not even that. It's, you know, I just, like many people, feel that the Republican Party has really let people down. Nebraska seems to be all right.

I don't know what they're talking about. And I guess I would say that, you know, I don't think that people necessarily a local level or a state level deserve to be taught a lesson. But I think a lot of people at a federal level do. Well, I mean, one thing that I could say that I would never attribute to myself

is that Trump's terrible. I mean, I can't believe how much I absolutely regret voting for Donald Trump is something many Republicans are actually saying and something that liberals will clip me saying and then pretend that I actually said that because, you know, and then they're going to go wild with it and be like, oh, Trump's losing. Are you concerned, Brandon, that the lack of interest will cause the Democratic Party to retake the House and the Senate? Well, I think that's going to happen.

Oh, you've consigned yourself to it? Yes. Or resigned, I guess. Why are people not pushing it from your take anyway? Why are people not? Pushing making sure that the Republicans stand control of the House. Well, I think they are. I mean, every day when I'm on social media,

I see the split of people saying that they're not going to vote because they feel betrayed. And then I see all the other people saying they're absolutely going to go out and vote straight, take a Republican. And the reason why is because they're afraid of social and communists and they're afraid of the Democrats taking power and, you know. But nobody's voting because they're, they actually want to vote for Republicans. Like, not one person is saying that.

Yeah, that's what's funny. And that's what's important point to get at is like voting to keep another party out of power. We've been doing that for 50 years. Exactly. You're going to walk away from the Republican plantation. It's kind of already happening, I think. Did you, you do your new show, you host debates, you had the MAGA versus America first. You were, like, discerning the fracture between the Republicans.

What did you get out of that? What was your main takeaways from hosting that? Well, okay, so we've now done three of those. So the third one is going to air a week from tonight, actually, I think, 7 o'clock Walkway Channel. And that one has, like, Viva Fry, Alex Stein. It's great. It's actually, I think, the best one we've ever done, and that's going to be a week from tonight. But, I mean, I guess, so the one that's still coming up, I think what I learned,

is that it is actually possible for the two sides of the split to care about each other because the first two that we did were pretty contentious and like it really felt like there was no overlap anymore. It just felt like the MAGA people are like firmly behind Trump no matter what it does. If Trump goes off a cliff, they're going off a cliff, they don't care. And the America First side is like, no, we want all the promises that Trump made to us in 2015 and 2016 and seems to have abandoned. But the two sides were like, like not finding common ground at all. But it was actually, this next one coming out, I think, was actually very sort of like

heartfelt and jovial. And it's passionate. I mean, there's a lot of like very passionate emotion. But I don't know. I guess I kind of learned that maybe it's, you know, we can come back together. It's possible. Is J.D. Vance of a favorite amongst both sides or are the people in the American first? I haven't talked to like Nick Fuentes, who I know.

No, they do not like. Really just because of the technocratic and basically working in. subservience to Trump that pisses, I don't know exactly. Well, I think for the people who don't like him, I think that they feel that way. And I think for people who do actually like him and are kind of behind him, I think that there is a concern kind of dragging in the baggage of what the second Trump administration has been so far into 2028. I mean, not that many people under the age of 65 think that he's doing an amazing job or

that the second administration has been a great. success. You ask people over 65, they have no idea what you're talking. They're like, oh my God, I'm so happy. It's great. It's everything I voted for. And then it's like 90. That was actually the first debate we did, boomers versus millennials, which people loved. But yeah, I mean, I think even the people who are planning to vote like in the Trump succession and say like, well, you know, if Vance is next and then I'm going to do that, are concerned about the baggage. Do you, when you were like kind of analyzing the people you've had on in the debates that you've been doing, do you feel like people from either side of the aisle in this debate were like heavily propagandized or have been heavily propagandized beyond logic? That's a great question.

No, I mean, are you saying on which side? Either side, did you notice, do you feel like, geez, these people seem like they've been just led maybe askew by the media or something? I mean, maybe a little bit like Will Chamberlain. And by the way, like when I do these events and these debates and stuff, even if I have people there who are representing a point of view that's like completely contrary to what I believe, I still have kind of like a love and appreciation for them. And like Will and I have definitely had our battles on social media and stuff. But like I just want him to know if he's watching like I'm not picking on him.

But, you know, like Will is very much like, and he'll say like he's very much a Zionist. And so he very much, like, is, that is the lens through which a lot of his political opinions come through, you know. And so, I mean, I do think that he thinks things and believes things that are not necessarily true, particularly as they pertain to, like, the war in Iran and why we went to war in Iran and how it's going and are we winning. And is it actually over a lot of that seems to be propaganda, I think. interesting, like, we have to do it. I don't want to do it, but we have to do it. So I'm going to say I want to do it. Because like, if it was war and like we need to take that hill and it's going to hurt a lot of people, it's not like, I want that, but like we have to do this. And like, if we weren't at war, we wouldn't have to do it.

But because he's a Zionist, because predetermining thing, I have to now do that. So I'm going to accept that I want to do that because I have to. And is that, do, I mean, I wonder if that's the vibe. Well, a little bit, but I just, you know, I mean, I think a lot of people, people are questioning if we really went in there for the reasons why we were told that we were going in there. I mean, it was sort of like this whole narrative that like Iran is very close to building a nuke and oh my God, we have to stop them from building a nuke. And they're like weeks away and this whole thing. And a lot of people are like, that's not what was going on at all. And so I think for people who don't want to look at the alternative reasons for why we probably went in there, they will further that narrative, which I think a lot of people question.

and if that's actually true. I think so, too. I don't personally, I mean, do you want my take on that? Or do somebody else takeover? I want to hear it. I think they want to control the Suez. I mean, world domination

through the Petro Dollar, basically, and they'll tell you anything to control what? The Suez, they want that whole Middle Eastern canal structure, land bridge, or Hormuz, all of it. Yeah, there's so much oil coming out of there. The Saudis, you want to insulate and protect the Saudis so that they can keep feeding oil. Actually, one of our cause made a really great point,

We went in because of the Saudis. The petro dollar deal ended. Trump wants it re-upped. And Saudi Arabia says, okay, give us regime change in Iran. And we'll rip the petro dollar deal. And Trump said, okay. You should do one of our debates. Well, that's not my idea.

I said one of our members. No, no, no. I'm just saying. Where do you do them? In Dallas. Oh, that's too far. By the blake. Well, we could do it in D.C. or something.

DC would be a good one. Yeah, we just have a really great studio there. And it's been good working with them. But there's good studios everywhere. Do you work with the Blaze? No. I only asked because they were located in Dallas. Yeah, yeah.

It's been, I've seen these clubs everywhere. I mean, they're crushing. And I think there is, and it's been much needed because on Twitter where everyone's trying to fit their takes into 180 characters, people are just talking past each other. You know, people are assuming the people that are behind Trump are just like total shills. And then likewise, they assume people that are really frustrated at the Trump

are just like sellouts or whatever, panikins. And I'm sure they exist on both sides. They can attest to that. But I'm not trying to do a wholesome chung-is-let's-all-come-together kind of thing. But I do think broadly speaking, we all do want the same thing. We're just in many ways disagreeing on procedure. And I would hope that this show is sort of making that known to people, that isn't the case.

Again, there's people on both sides. if they want the same things at all. I mean, would you agree with that? I mean, I think that everybody wants our country to do well, and I think that they want us to be prosperous. You'd seem skeptical. I mean, in a very general sense, like, yes, we all, like, want a better country, but in terms of, like, policy goals, I don't think that they're at all.

Seems like immigration is a topic that pretty much everyone's an agreement on, maybe the scope of how many people are deported is where there's disagreement on, but like immigration, I think foreign policies where you see the most divergence. You have some people that are just like diurnal Zionists, some people that are total isolationists. That's where there's pretty much no overlap. And I think you're seeing a lot of filtering on both camps. I think that's the biggest thing right now because of you're wrong. This country is so fragmented. There is no unification. Well, not with the left. I'm in the left. I'm not talking about the left. I'm about the right. Jim Justice came out and said,

we don't want to deport people who have been here for a certain amount, like 15 years. Well, yeah, I mean, those people are broad. Let's talk about the math of it, right? Never bought in in the first place. So what happens at the petro? Let me ask you this, Brandon. What happens if the petro dollar goes away? I don't know.

Tate, what will you say happen to the petro dollar goes away? Certainly erodes America's global economics. What happens to the average American? Fuel energy gets much more expensive. Just fuel and energy? Your laptop's going to cost $10,000. Everything gets expensive because... We don't make laptops here.

They come from China. So if there's no petro dollar system, you want a laptop? Yeah, 10 grand. You want a new car? $150,000. We don't make these things. We gave them all the way. So now you've got a Trump who comes in and he says, okay, well, how do we make sure Americans can have this standard of living? Saudi Arabia says, your 50-year contract is up. There's no petro dollar anymore. China and Russia are trading in one now. So we're going to start doing deals with them. What do you say? Trump says, what do we do? They say, okay, we'll give us regime change in Iran. This is hypothetical. medical. Should that have been the case,

Trump's going to say, of course. Then everyone's going to get mad at them saying we don't want this. If Trump does not get the petro dollar deal back, let's just leave the Iran war out of it. If Trump does not get the petro dollar, milk is going to cost 20 bucks a gallon. Maybe not milk because we do produce milk here. Our imports will go through the roof.

Coconut water, for instance. Crazy dude, the last since the time. Florida's got coconuts. It takes so long to get my coconut water. It used to be three days. Now it's like four weeks, Sometimes I'm waiting. People don't understand.

Amazon brand. I don't care about what you want. And what I mean by that is you're allowed to want it. You're allowed to advocate for it. I am not going to hold it against you. Not that I would want something else and I don't care what you're trying to accomplish. I am saying if you're a libertarian, if you're a conservative, if you're a liberal, you come to me and say, here's what I want. I'm going to tell you exactly what's happening and how what you're doing affects what you want.

And then leave me the F out of it. So when a conservative comes to me and says, I'm, I'm mad at. at Trump, I'm America first. We didn't want the wars. I say, okay, I hear you. I mean, that sucks. I don't want the war either. I'll ask you, do you like gas at $2? Yep. Okay, well, then you're going to get a war. That's just it because the U.S. needs to have global hegemonic military control of the canals, of the straits, of the waterways. Otherwise, the petrodoll system breaks because it's been breaking. And for the last 20 years, Russia has been trying to get off the petro dollar, Saddam Hussein dead. He did. Gaddafi tried. He did. China has been buying oil in one. Iran refused to get behind the petro dollar. That's why we,

principally, not the only reason, but one of the reasons we've been in conflict with Iran for so long. We don't produce enough things in this country to maintain a strong dollar for imports. Things you make are fine. So people ask this question like, how do Ukrainians get by on 400 bucks a month? probably less now with the war going on. It's like, I couldn't live a 400 bucks a month. Yeah, well, like, buying a loaf of bread in Ukraine probably costs three cents. Equivalent to America. That's because they make it themselves.

Their farmers do that labor and trade that labor internally. It's the imports that are affected by a weak currency. So if you were a country that imports your fuel for your food, your food's going through the roof. If you are a country like the United States that has given away all of your manufacturing, like vitamin C, China, masks, China, skateboards, China, cars, mechroids, Mexico. What do you think happens when the dollar becomes worthless in the international market? The only reason the dollar has value in the market is because the United States is the world police and

we have a petro dollar system. If China under the petro dollar system wants to buy oil, they need to trade Juan with us $4 so they can then go to OPEC and buy the international market and buy oil in dollars. The petrodollah system fails. China goes straight to Saudi Arabia with one. The U.S. is not involved in that. And then the U.S. is going to have to pay real labor costs for those imports coming from China and Foxcon. So you want your MacBook, 10 Gs. I don't care if you want or don't want this. I literally don't care. War is bad. Fine. All of that stuff. Agreed. We should be building all of this stuff here. But that's why I'm like, this all just seems so fake to me. Because someone who comes out and is like, I am mad that Trump is doing

these things. Did you think that the, like, is there, is there some universal code that said you can have cheap free stuff somewhere? Like, did that ever exist? A price for everything. And the bill comes due. What is the reason that we are the wealthiest country on the planet and that someone, maybe not today, but 10 years ago, made a hundred grand working at BuzzFeed, writing about

Brad Pitt's junk? Did you imagine going to like Central Africa and being like, You make $300 a year. This guy makes $100,000. Wow. And this guy goes, I chop wood every day. I have to farm. I have to carry heavy things.

I'm starving. What do they do? They must work so hard. Oh, they write about bread pits junk. What? How is, like, people need to ask themselves this question. What is the trade value of me talking right now to you in the world? Very low.

Very low. Why should I be able to buy a cyber truck because I talk about stuff? Because the United States is a global hegemon that has a gun pointed at everybody. And if they want to buy anything, if they want to buy oil, they got to come to us first. In exchange, the U.S. promises to police the canals and guarantee safe passage. That's effectively what the petrodosism is supposed to be. I don't care if you don't like it. That was always allowed.

I don't care if you don't like Israel. That was always allowed. I don't care if you don't like a land. All that's allowed. I don't care. I have no opinion. I'm just telling you what is. So when Donald Trump is looking at the American people and you've got all of these different

frameworks all screaming they want different things and they're mad about different things, but they all want cheap gas. Trump's going to take the cheap gas option and people are going to be pissed off about it. But if like this, you know, I was watching this video on Instagram. This guy's like it was, it was a podcast and this guy was just ranting about how Jeff Bezos is pure evil and how there's just thing as a good billionaire. And they're saying things like if a. regular person had the wealth of Jeff Bezos, there would be no homelessness. There would be no

hunger anywhere. And then the chick goes, yeah, but in order to get that level of wealth, you have to be evil. It's like, that's right. And I'm like, these people are so stupid. Jeff Bezos is as boring as everybody else. He's just working all the time and he can predict things. That's the fundamental nature of it. Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and other others, they're not evil. They're just like Bezos wakes up and he's like, I'm going to put another, you know, another brick in the wall. I'm going to lay another grain of sand. Now, these lefties think they're evil because they don't understand complex systems. They see a guy who's wealthy who's running a company and bad things happen to the employees,

like people peeing in bottles and they go, Bezos is evil. It's like, well, hold on. I guarantee you with the 100, what would I have 200,000 employees or whatever, Bezos heard about that story on the news before anyone who's company came to and said, people are peeing in bottles. And you know what he probably said when he found out? He probably said, fire whoever did this. Why am I getting yelled at because some piece of trash was having people pee in bottles? Donald Trump was charged with fraud because one of the guys at his company wrote down 30,000 square feet instead of 10,000 square feet on loan materials for Deutsche Bank.

Trump didn't do that. Doesn't matter. They came after him. I'm sure Trump was like, why am I in court right now, spending millions of dollars because some dumb VP wrote 30K instead of 10K. Insane. There are scales to these systems. Everybody wants everything to be perfect. You can't have it. And anyway, my point is, the reason I bring this up is I watch is America First versus, you know, the America, I've seen clips of the debate. And I'm like, are they pretending?

You know what I mean? Like, you can say, yeah, I think the war is bad. Trump's not doing it because he's evil. or Israel made him do it. Like, that is just like a children, a child reading a comic book about villainy. When you talk about like America first, I understand. Conceptually, of course, but realistically, the first at what? If it's a fractured, devastated world.

Come on, come on. We're not playing. No, no. We're talking about. We're not playing semantic games. America first means before we apply any of our resources externally, we apply them internally and then after that. But they're not doing the opportunity cost.

At what cost? If you don't prepare your. resources externally and you're only then you may, the world may fall apart. The petro dollar fails. Spend our money to our benefit before the benefit of others. Like what what scale of benefit? Is it the next six months? Are you looking at the next 20 years? Like it's like yeah, of course you want to bring all the money back. You want all industry here. But like at what cost? I'm going to pause you. You misunderstand. America first, what they're arguing is when Trump went to war with Iran, he did it for Israel. He is allocating our money to Israel. America first says,

Allocate our money to us. But what they don't understand is keeping the straight, the Suez Canal open, is allocating money to us. Which is why your previous point made no sense. No, the previous point was when they say America first, yeah, but at what scale? Just pulling money. You cut me off twice. I haven't even been able to finish the freaking point. Because your point is incorrect.

I was about to weave it. And it's on a wrong premise. America first argument on the Iran War is that we are spending money at the behest of Israel, not America. that's it there's not a question of whether the war benefits us they believe we are spending it because Israel demanded it of us well if someone's like give me a hundred thousand dollars

I'm going to go make you a trillion and I give them a hundred thousand dollars people like why are you giving other people money for him like well wait a couple months and he comes back with a trillion I put myself first by giving him money so correct but that's not even why we were told we went there I mean, we were not told that we were going into Iran to seize oil. I mean, maybe people could even get more behind that. It was not a seizing oil. Well, but we were told it was to prevent ourselves from being nuked.

That's what we were told. Yeah, it was regional hegemony, which that's where the Israel component comes in. You've seen leftists, right? Yeah. Out in the streets, throwing things. if you want them to stop throwing bricks, what do you do? I don't know. You don't have any ideas like there's a leftist guy,

an if a guy's got a brick in his hand, you have no idea of this office. I think he's probably going to throw it no matter what. So what could you do to stop him? I don't know. How about arrest him? No, I'm not a police officer. I didn't know I was a police officer in this scenario.

So it's a conditional hypothetical of what could be done to stop someone from throwing a brick? I don't know what I can do to stop someone else from throwing a brick. You couldn't grab a guy's arm? I feel like you're being willfully obtuse. I'm not. So if a guy's got a brick in his hand, you couldn't be like, if I grab his hand, you can't throw it.

I would imagine he would throw it as I was approaching him. You're holding his arm he can't throw. You're standing right next to him. He's like, I'm going to throw this brick. You'd be like, oh, well, there's nothing I can do about it. Okay. Is that your argument? I don't know. I don't know where you're going with. this. And I think you're, instead of just answering the question, you're concerned the point

might lead to somewhere where you can't answer the question. So you're refusing to just state simple hypothetical. A guy's going to throw a brick. What do you do, Tate? Uh, incapacitate him. Oh, there you go. There's a simple answer. When you were looking at an outcome that is desired and you have a plan, you then ask yourself, what comes after the incapacitation? Donald Trump looks at 100 people, 100 people, 100 people, 100 people. One group says, oh, we hate Israel. The next group is right-wingers. We hate Israel.

The next group says Trump can do no wrong. The next group says, you're all insane and I don't care about any of it. And he goes, well, why would I pan at any one of these people, right? If I go to these people and say communism and is real bad and the right-wing Israel people are mad, then these people over here call me a moron no matter what. And then the people over here yelling at me. But then there's one group of people. They all same, all same 400 people, then I'll scream $2 gas.

Trump goes, okay, $2 gas it is. Who has $2 gas? The purpose of going to war with Iran is related to the petro dollar deal. And as Ian pointed out, I honestly don't know. Not great. I'll tell you, not great. Theoretically, but as a couple of chickens who have no access to classified information, the answer is we don't know.

I mean, on the surface right now in the short term, very bad, potentially in the long term, even worse. The petro dollar deal expired. And Americans genuinely do not understand how global economics works and what it means for our imports if we can't, if we don't have a petro dollar system. Now that Donald Trump says, okay, everybody wants $2 gas. We're going to have to invest in getting $2 gas. So we're going to try and find a way to do it. Saudi Arabia, the Strait of Hormuz, war with China, all these conflicts converge. These moves are all made. Let's just say hypothetically, that's the point. We're going to Iran because Trump wants to control oil. Of all of these moral groups, not a single one of

them will publicly state they are willing to go to war for oil. But every single one of them would riot if they do not get it. So Trump cannot publicly come out and say, say you guys want two dollar oil we're going to war we're going to massacre people blow up schools destroy their government get regime change kill 50 plus people in their government and then oil will be cheaper hopefully in the next year or so he'd be he'd be he'd be impeached immediately every republic would throw them out this is the nature of politics you can't go to a room full of people and say you all want cheap food but none of you are willing to work for it so I'm going to go steal it but if you say I'm going to steal they're like whoa don't steal food that's wrong so you're like

okay, well, then you're not going to be happy and you're all going to be fighting, it's going to be riots. This is what politicians do all day every day. And it's because there are too many disparate moral frameworks in this country. That's just it. I'm not saying anything he's doing is good. I'm not saying it's going to work. I'm saying there's not some evil Trumpian regime where they're like,

we must serve Israel the better what. And Israel's like, oh, ha, ha, ha. Like, that's just fake. It's just fake. It's children. And the politicians are always going to say whatever can be, whatever can maximize PR to the lowest common denominator voter. You know, it seems like the, I mean, I think the more likely explanation would just be Trump on record for 50 years, wanted to go to war with Iran, hated Iran. There's a uniparty consensus to go to war with Iran.

Even at the Democrats retake the Senate, I could see them voting to authorize further funding. And then the X factor is he's only watching Fox now. He's not on Twitter. Fox is like, this is the greatest thing ever. the Israelis are in his ear, go to war, go to war, go to war. And then the Gulf states come in and they're like, let's go to war with Iran. So he has all of these. Because Iran, it threatens the regional hegemony of the Israelis, of the Saudis, of the Emirates.

I mean, it's mostly a power game. You're literally saying exactly what I just said. No, it's more of like, it's more of a military strategy sort of thing than like the Petra dollar. Or what purpose? Well, again, because Iran is adversarial towards the other countries. They're afraid that Iran is going to make a plan on it. Iran funds the Houthis, they fund the Moss.

And why do they do that? It's primarily ideological disagreements with the Saudis and with the Israelis. But their demands are primarily related to the nature of Israel, Gaza, and U.S. sanctions as well as the Petro dollar. Yeah, to an extent, the Petro dollar, but the Saudis can trade with Yuan tomorrow if they wanted to. Indeed. But they don't, because it's just the Bretton Woods. They have interests of us. Which I'd also speculate it's the reason why Trump did.

didn't release the Epsian files because it implicates Saudi princes. It could be the case, but I mean, the primary reason everyone trades in U.S. dollars is just because that's how people trade. I mean, that's just been the case since the end of the war. Before that, we traded in Great British Pounds. Yep. And after the war, Breton Woods, reinforced the U.S. dollar. And then the liberal economic order in the 1950s engaged in several proxy wars to establish

this trade system by which everyone has to buy oil and dollars. They don't have to. I mean, the Saudis tomorrow could. It's just there's not really an incentive to. I mean, if there were a massive incentive to trade in Yuan, they would. And when... There's not much we could do about that. And, uh, well, we killed Saddam Hussein because he tried.

And Muammar Gaddafi, we blew him up with airstrex because he tried. Well, actually, I'm sorry, we blew up his country. And then when he fled, people murdered him in the streets. And then Hillary Clinton laughed about it. So yeah, when people try to navigate beyond the petrodollar, we tend to blow him up. Yeah. I mean, there's certainly like that. But I think it's, I think what I'm trying to get at is the petrodollars nested inside of a bigger sort of tension, which is just this, yeah, this arrangement that we have globally.

It's an ideological arrangement. That's literally the petrodollary arrangement called the liberal economic order. I know, but what I'm saying is it's not purely an economic interest for why the United States is one. I think it's primarily an ideological interest. The economic interest is the basis for which the liberal economic order was established purposefully because international trade lines prevent war. The petro dollar system, the IMF, the SWIF, all of that stuff was built after the World War II so that by forcing all of of these countries to be under our debt system and our currency, they are less likely to fight each other. Yeah. The lynchpin of it is the dollar. Yeah, I know, I think we're in agreement.

I'm just saying that I believe the reason it was, I guess we're agreeing here is I believe the reason it was constructed. It's primarily ideological. And then the petrodollar is the glue that gives us some insulation from going to war. They wanted to prevent war. They said, here's how we do it. This is this, this is the system that should be. And now we have to go and force everybody to use the dollar. Yeah. And then the question is what exactly has this sort of, this is, this is a much deeper question, which is what exactly has this world order facilitated? And then when Trump came down the escalator in 2016, in many ways, that was a rebellion against us continuing to uphold this world order is by saying, we don't really care that much. I mean, if we, you know, Trump said it

himself, when we went into Iraq, where's the oil? Like, what's the point of going to war? If this is truly for economic purposes. To stop Saddam Hussein from trading outside the dollar. I think that they really want to maintain the petro dollar, but they want to get rid of the banking order, the world economic, like that foundation, that banks Swiss banking, Bank for International Settements. I don't think Trump's is keen on that because he sees us that are raping the American economy with interest, but he's desperate to control the oil, which is the real power. That's where you get electricity from. Trump comes down the escalator and he's like, why are we doing any of this?

This makes no sense. And then slowly over time, he comes to realize why we're doing this and why it makes sense. And the average person is going to be opposed to war all day. Like, you know, it's, it's like I explained, everybody in your house is screaming, we want pizza and you're like, well, I don't have money for it. So the only way we're going to get is if I go to my neighbors and steal out of his freezer. But if you tell the people that you're going to do it, they're going to stop you, and then they're going to get mad at you, and they're going to riot and there's going to be a revolution because I couldn't get it. Well, I guess what

I'm trying to get at is this is what makes the entire Trump era so petrifying, is that if someone as, and I mean this as a compliment, as abrasive as Trump, couldn't disrupt the system, I'm not entirely sure who can because I think we can all agree that the liberal economic order. Yes, it facilitates economic prosperity. Yes, people aren't starving to death anymore. Yes, in many ways it does decrease war, but people have never really felt more constricted, like in multiple ways than one. People can sense that the world, we've lost something. Well, Rome is burning.

Things have gotten worse. Okay, yes, on paper, GDP has gone up, but people look around and they're like, London looks horrific now. New York looks horrific now. And so I'm not really interested in upholding this world order. Okay, maybe it keeps the, you know, keeps two countries in that side of the world from going at it, but doesn't serve me. You thought it was bad now for buying a house and having a family, 10x the cost of everything.

Well, I mean, here's the thing is the question is like, if we're going to keep this system as it stands, then it should be functioning as it was promised to function. But the problem is that it is no longer functioning. The promise that was made to future generations is no longer being upheld. The nature of the promise is just to get people to stop screaming. Well, the promise is that life gets better for every successive generation. and so that's why people bought into the post-war consensus. That began to break down maybe the 90s, 2000s. That is why you're seeing socialist now.

That is why you're seeing on the right people that are exploring, maybe more taboo ideologies. They're saying, I'm actually okay with just disrupting the system. If we can't get cheaper houses, if we can't get this, that or the other, and it's not a matter of just making some tweaks here or there. Let's just upend it. Correct. And as we've explained in this show time and time again,

history shows that when people do that, houses become substantially more expensive, and every generation is 10 times worse off. I'm not suggesting that the young generation just to accept that boomers want to tax them more for Social Security, but it's like it's all downhill from here, brother. I totally agree that there is. Gen Z should be saving every single penny they have

and buying, you know, don't listen to me, not financial advice. If I were Gen Z, I'd be buying gold and silver. I'd be buying things of real tangible value guns and bullets because if this system goes belly up and the petrodollar pop, You'll, you're not, bro, you'll be lucky to own a computer. I totally agree that this is like one of the complications of democracy is like people, younger people say they want the system completely up and they completely blown up. But to your point, people get really upset over, you know, intrusions into their ability to carry the, you know, their data. What do you do when 100 people are screaming, we want cheap oil, but you better not enforce global order on oil?

and you're like, well, then we're not going to have cheap oil. You're going to have to have American labor produce the oil in American labor rates. That is, every worker and every level is going to need $100,000 a year to live American middle class median if they're going to be producing oil for you. Your gas is going to be ridiculously expensive. I mean, what is gas in Europe, like $10 a gallon or something? Yeah, well, I mean, that has sort of internal factors as well. But it's been that way for 30 years. Yeah, because they just switched on the green energy.

30 years ago. Disagreements with Russia. 30 years ago, it was like, the story was that it's two bucks a gallon. You know, it's said two bucks a liter. So they were paying like $8 a gallon. It's always been bad over there. Because they have a harder time of getting it. The U.S. produces a lot.

But we can use imported goods. If you want to get a t-shirt made by an American, because we sell t-shirts, it's like $40. If we, like, what do we sell our t-shirts for, like $35 or something? I haven't even checked. We barely make money. We don't make money on these shirts. They're like, it's like, marketing for us. Yeah.

because we get a made in America. You get a made in China, you're going to save five, ten bucks, put some money in your pocket. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, I guess, and then the, obviously it's like the elephant in the room in any Middle Eastern discussion is where the Israel component does come in, as I see it, is our entire foreign policy structure in the Middle East is Netanyahu centric

is broadly Israel-centric, and it's been the case for the last 50 years. That is what I would like to see a divergence from, because I'm a bit more hawkish on China. And I think probably stitching together the Turks, the Saudis can be much more beneficial. I think the Israelis are just ultimately a liability at the global stage. Trump said it himself. He's like, everybody hates you now. So it's like you can make the most, you can make the best case possible geopolitical.

I should support Israel. But I'm like, it's just costing us reputation at the global stage. And for me, that's enough to cut them loose. They're not part of our civilization. They're not Christian. They're not European. So I'm like, I view them the same way as the Bangladeshis. It's like, sorry.

We sell skateboards. They're American made. Skateboarding in the United States is collapsing. our third factory went out of business. And so it delayed all over the production orders. So then people say, I don't want a skateboard anymore. I want to refund. So simultaneously, the demands are American Made only,

but American Made takes a long time. Then I don't want it. Then we can't sell it. The American Made shops weren't selling enough boards to stay in business, so they collapsed. They went out of business because Americans will say, I want American Made goods, but then they'll go buy from China anyway. It's revealed preference, yeah.

I mean, that's a big problem with democracy. again, people say they want one thing, but then the revealed preference indicates they want something else. AI is a great example. The top five apps in the apps are all AI, but people say they hate AI. Exactly. So what will happen is, ideologically, you're going to get one person, and they're going to say, I would only ever buy American. And then you're going to get a huge crowd of people in front of a stage, and you're going to say to each and any one of them, how many here wants a skateboard from China? And they're going to go, boo. How many of you want a skateboard from America? And they go, yeah. And you go, even if it's more expensive, yeah, and they'll scream in, me cheer. Then they line up in a single file line to buy the boards. And a guy walks up and goes, just give me the China board. It's cheaper. And you go, okay. Or we say, now, we're only solid American

now, but it's going to take two, three months because the factors are all shutting down. And they go, I don't want it. I'd rather have the China board. And it's like, okay. See, the thing is, as a group, everybody screams out American made. Individually, they go, yeah, but not me. Yeah. I'll buy China. Yeah, this is an unfortunate. I'm just one person. This is an unfortunate thing about the market, right? It's like, for example, Trump, you know, he's restricted immigration to, like, really continue restricting immigration and tighten the screws even more. We're going to see a massive retraction in the labor market, right?

There'll be far less workers, so labor costs go up. Well, this is just not something that our economies are built for. Our economies are built for continuous growth. So if the labor market retracts, there's an upward pressure on labor costs. Everything gets more expensive. And this is kind of one of those things where, unfortunately, as right-winger, I don't want to speak for one at the table, me as a right-winger, sort of the nationalist policies that we want are going to have adverse negative effects on the economy. And that's just like something we have to be realistic about. And so I just want to finish this point. So this is why I viewed the Iran war as such a big mistake, even though I was just principally opposed from the outset, even if I were in agreement with it, look, we had tariffs coming in, we have immigration restriction. That was already going to put a lot of pressure on the economy. So we were, spending political capital. People say this all the time. This is what it looks like. This is what expending political capital looks like is saying, hey, everything is going to get more

expensive because of deportations. Everything is going to get more expensive because of tariffs. There's long-term benefits. So trust us, here's us spending the political capital. Then we blew the mother load on Iran. So now everyone hates the tariffs and everyone is pretty negative on ice raids and whatnot. It's just very frustrating. I'm going to shout out the chat from Mama, ma-ma, exemplifying my point, saying no one wants skateboards. It's not the 90s. skateboarding died in the late 80s and was completely dead in the 90s. Many pro skateboarders quit and stopped being pro skateboarders in the 90s. Skateboarding was at its worst point in the 90s.

In the 2000s into the early 2010, skateboarding hit an upswing. So this is my point. No disrespect. But the individual making this comment about international trade is like, it's not the 90s anymore, man. No one skated in the 90s. Like you are incorrect. And when you have the masses, you know, let's do this. Are you familiar with Gelman amnesia effect?

I love this. It's a fake term coined by an academic to make it sound smart. But the idea is that you pick up a newspaper and you're an expert on the January 6th stuff. And so, I mean, you are. You experienced it. You were there. You know better than anybody. You know what I mean?

So you're reading. If I was going to be something cool, I was an expert. He's like, you're an expert on January 6th. Well, I mean, this is a major historical moment that. you could write a book on. All right, thanks. It's a major historical moment. You could write a book about it.

And people would be like, he has key insights. No one else does. It's true. So you pick up a newspaper, front page, major war in Europe, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, wow, that's crazy. You turn the page. January 6th, they were throwing pies at each other. And you go, it's fake.

No, they weren't. They're making these things up. Then you turn the page. Wow, war again. Man, galman amnesia is that when you see a story in which you are, an expert, you can tell it's fake right away. But when you turn the page to the next door, you assume it's true. Because you're not an expert on war in Europe. You're like, wow, I didn't know that. It must be true. What's it called? Gelman amnesia. Okay. So I bring that up because there's another

way to highlight that issue, and it's that humans are specialists in so few subjects. So the guy who commented saying it's not the 90s, maybe he's a plumber, you know, and he's the best plumber in the world. Shout out, whatever he is your job. A car salesman, maybe he sells more than anybody else. but he knows nothing about skateboards, but he assumes everything. So this is what politics is. We have a constitutional republic because our founding fathers understood, you need a trustworthy representative who's not going to vote for whatever you say to vote for. You want a representative who's going to say, I got your back, trust me, let me do my thing.

And it might look like they're doing things you don't like, but you got to trust that they're doing something in your effort or to your benefit. if we just did direct democracy, everybody would vote to, we need to restore the skateboard sales of the 90s. They would all press the button and then they'd blow it up because they thought skateboarding was good. Or a better example is they would all say, we all vote against war for oil. And then a week later, gas goes at $47 a gallon and people are murdering each other in the streets. You never want one person or a group of people to make a final decision. That's why you don't have the judge, jury, and the executioner be all the same person. It's the same. It's the same with AI. You don't want one AI deciding

and executing. You need stop gaps. That's why we have a representative democracy and people that can say no and change the direction of things throughout. I want to pull this up. We got Kalshi, the balance of power. Democrat sweep is now up to 62%. Democrat House of Public

Consent. It's only at 29%. So it's looking two to one that Democrats are going to win. I don't. People don't. I give a shout out to Kalshi sponsoring the show. And then I want to ask this question. especially for Brandon. Ian, feel free to chime in.

What do you think Democrats will do if they take the House and the Senate? I mean, I don't know. Everybody is very doomsday about it, talking about grinding the administration to a halt, impeachments, investigations, things like that. I guess my question is, why don't we do things like that when we have power? No, I mean, I'm serious. I agree.

It's really frustrating. And I think if we did do things like that, then perhaps we'd be winning the midterms. I mean, if we did something with Power One, we had it, And I don't think we would. I actually think that if the Trump administration, if Congress was going after corruption, then you'd get a lot of,

a lot of even America First people being like, and we might hold our noses if we're going to get some real movement internally. Like, war is bad. We're all mad about it. But hey, look, Trump got three arrests. The documents they released from USAID prove this corruption. Like, we can't let Democrats get back in power. Or they might be like, I hate Trump.

I can't believe he started this war. But did you see what the Democrats? Democrats were doing with U.S. Oh, my God, this is crazy. Instead, they do nothing? Yeah, it's like, um, mortgage. You ask people, do you want to, they're like, I won't vote for evil. And the Republicans is like, where your average person might be thinking, what, what Trump's doing with his admiss doing is evil. The Democrats, though, they're also evil, but they're less evil. And what people don't realize is, dude, when you're talking about geopolitics, it's evil. When you're talking about who's going to die next, who's going to starve, where the resources are going to go because there aren't infinite. that's all stuff of evil.

You work in destruction and deterrence. Like, the government's job is to stop gate evil. It's to decide the flow of evil, to decide who has to. But I think people are so far removed from that that they get a sense that, oh, they're doing some evil. I got to start getting away from it now. I'm like, I mean, it's a dark thing. Like Tim was saying, you don't tell the populace, hey, we're going to go rob and steal your food so that you can eat tonight. You just rob and steal it and then give it to them and they love you.

They think you're a hero. And if you ever admit, actually, I stole this, look like, you're evil, you must stop. And then they all revolt, remove you from power. And then they all starve to death in three months. But we're talking about like the creation of evil, which is what, I mean, it's very different than it used to be. I don't know how anyone could argue that it's not. And I think that the, the Democrats and the things that they do and have been doing for the last four or five, six, or even actually since Trump started really, 2015, 2016, I mean, unless I'm misunderstanding your point, it's almost like I feel like I hear you saying, like people in power in our government,

it's always been a part of their job to intervene or to stop evil. I mean, it's not kind of what you were saying? It's to become the evil. Your job- Oh, okay, well, that they're doing. Like with the Epstein files, it doesn't surprise me that they're using the data

to their own ends. That's an evil thing. You would think the good thing would be to reveal it all and let the chips fall where they may, but because they're structurally evil, they're maintaining order. And if that order shattered, we'd all, people would be eating human corpses

to survive and go. garbage like they do in North Korea. Let me give you a little, little philosophy joke. I always found vegans to be the most evil. Seriously, like, vegans are evil people. They are. People who eat meat are okay. Humans got to eat, right? Let me ask you a question. There's a guy who lives at a farm. He grows vegetables. He eats those vegetables. He feeds his family. you go to his house, you massacre him, and take his food and vegetables, and you eat them and leave. There's another guy. He's carrying some meats.

You go up, you massacre him, take those meats, you fight over it, you eat the meat. Which is a worst act? Which is worse? The second guy massacred the second guy? So there's two guys that are marauding around. Okay. And then you ambush him, take his food, and kill him. Yeah.

There's another guy who's living on a farm peacefully with his family growing vegetables. You go to his house, murder him and his family and take his vegetables. Which act is worse? Why do I have to answer this? The second one. Yeah, you answer. I think it's... The second one, because the meat is more valuable.

No. It's because killing a marauder who's going around and stealing and eating food and eating his food is like, well, it's not good. Being a marauder is bad. Two marauders killing each other is bad. But why is it good to go and kill a farmer who's minding his own business? Now let's apply that to the idea of veganism. You got a plant minding its own business. It grows its own food and energy through photosynthesis.

It harms no one. And the vegan says, I'm going to kill that one. The innocent one that minds its own business, I will kill and eat. Meanwhile, the wart hog that goes around just killing small animals, eating whatever it wants, that's fine. Let it continue marauding. So this idea, like when vegans are like, I don't eat animals because it's, causing pain. I'll be like, you're, like, the plants are innocent. Well, this is, the plants do not kill. It's an ancient philosophy. That's not the point. Explored in Hinduism. I mean, the Hindu god

Shiva was a dude and apparently was a dancer, which is why he was a, he's known for destruction and transformation, not for evil, but for destroying things and recreating them, which is what you, they have that at CERN, you know, they destroy atoms and recreate them, but the guy who destroys the plants to eat and then transform it into energy, that's the philosophy. Because probably for tens of thousands years, people have been struggling with the acts of destruction and how destruction not necessarily is evil. Destruction is a part of our nature. And if you apply that to politics, you start to understand some of these hard choices they make. My point is, you cannot exist without consuming energy from something. It can't be done. Americans cannot have wealth and comfort without someone being a

slave. We are the beneficiaries of global slavery. We have people working for pennies on the dollar, their teeth rot out of their mouths to get sulfur, cobalt, and other minerals so that we can complain on the internet and be ridiculously wealthy. It's just global hegemony. It's always been this way. And the only reason Americans get by without a guilty conscience, because they do not know about it. Yeah, boy, I almost became suicidal in 2007 when I learned about it. I was like, my whole life, I thought we were the good guy. I thought everything we were doing was right, righteous and we were the leaders and we're the best, the U.S. And then I realized, oh my God, it's a dirty game

I've been involved in, ignorantly, and then I had to deal with that. So who's the good guy, the deer or the wolf? Well, they're neither good. The winner will tell you the story and they'll write themselves as the email. Let me ask you guys a question. You ever see that famous meme where there's a sign it says do not feed the wild animals, they'll become dependent. And then the next image is

like a welfare form and people are like, has anyone ever thought about this? You ever see that meme? You know I'm talking about, right, Tate? Mm-mm. There's a meme where there's a sign, it says, do not feed the wild animals, they'll become dependent. And then it's juxtaposed with welfare. Oh, really?

I've become dependent on this. How come conservatives don't make that point with humanity in general. If the wolf and the deer are neither good or evil, why do they not apply that same standard to an American nation that steals, that destroys to consume from other nations? Because we have free will and a frontal cortex to become better. And be a vegan. You're still an animal. And even then you're killing in those combines that tear up the, the, the, we're,

eat, there's, like, rabbits and deer that live in that that are getting slaughtered. A vegan is still slaughtering animals if you're doing a gas scale. Yeah, but they're vegans who know that. I think killing plants, the argument is plants aren't sentient. And it's like, then kill and eat brain dead pigs. I don't know. What are you talking about? I'm thinking about this world order, because we're like on the cusp of a new world order, for real.

Like where we come. There's always, I mean, I don't like this line of thinking because there's always going to be a hegemon in the world or maybe two or three at one point, like at one moment. And that's survival of the fittest. Like if you're not happy with where your place is and the global pecking order, fight your way out of it. I mean, like, it is broadly meritocratic. It's like, you can go to war.

And if you win said war, you're at you boost your standing. I don't think we have to, I think we have to, like, defend our position at the top of the pile, like, ethically. It's like, well, no, we're just the best. Therefore, we are on the top. On top.

And if we're no longer the best, this is my point, that people are going to be like, the U.S. must be constrained. and the U.S. is constrained by deep morals. And then you end up with these wacky stories where our troops in the Middle East can't engage enemy combatants because of the rules of engagement

they don't abide by. It's just silly. You know, I always find it funny, like the idea of a war crime, gentlemanly war agreed upon by nations for after the fact. It's like, dude, if you really wanted to win a war,

there's no rules. That's what I'm talking about. The Geneva Convention, after World War II, it's like they're pulling the ladder up. Like, okay, now that we have control of the world, you can't do chemical weapons anymore. Well, that's, but that's because we're first worlders. I mean, that's how we, I mean, the same reason we have animal cruelty laws.

Like, people, people don't bat an eye if you kill a cow. But if you start torturing a cow and then kill it, people are like, yeah, there's something deeply wrong. I think it's more of than we think of the war. But this is my point. This is liberalism. No, it's not. This is Christianity, broadly.

The idea that Christians had crusades. Yeah, and they're justified. Christians won't even defend their own churches being. bought out by other religious groups, Christians won't even defend their own countries. They'll welcome in adversarial religious groups. I don't think there's any Christian. That wouldn't always the case. Agreed.

It's not Christian. So what happens is you have a country, it becomes increasingly fat and liberal, and they start releasing criminals from prison. You have a nation that conquers an entire continent and then eventually becomes fat and liberal and starts letting anybody come in and stops fighting for what it has. Yeah, I mean, my original point was just that the idea of cruelty, of unnecessary punishment of animal cruelty stems from like Christian ethics. That's why you only really found it present in the West. You're talking about the Geneva Convention?

Just rules of engagement, how you ought to treat people, how you treat animals. Yeah, a lot of the early... That finds its roots in Christianity. So Tim's second point, yeah, I mean, on the battlefield, it is true when push comes to shove, you know, okay, yeah, people do lash out, but I think generally it's a good thing that Western nations conduct ourselves that way. Because, I mean, there is still a- For how long? There still is a cosmic class. As far as like, okay, now, you know, we're so wealthy that, you know, we're letting our borders wide open. I do think that's changing. I mean, certainly, you know, people are,

you can have your criticisms as I do of Trump's immigration policy, but like it's moving to a more restrictionist direction compared to the last 56 years. Same up the continent of Europe. The Europeans are moving to the right as well. My point is, do you think the Chinese Communist Party says, oh, no, oh, geez, we can't go to war and steal oil and subjugate other countries? They're sitting there saying like, yeah, we're going to do it all. And then they're looking at the United States being like, you're fat and liberal now. So you lost. The United States, like, a hundred years ago, countries were like, yeah, we'll massacre anybody for our own benefit.

I don't think that's necessarily true, though. I mean, again, when you look at how the British conducted affairs in Africa, far more benevolent than how, for example, the Omanis conducted their affairs. because they had actual chattel slavery. I didn't say we weren't better. I think we're, I think, no, but you're, I'm not necessarily thinking this you're doing, but you're eroding. No, no, no, no, hold on. Did the British colonize foreign countries and depose their leadership and assert themselves

as their sovereigns and then change their life? Yeah, and that was beneficial. Yes, that's a strong nation. I didn't say it wasn't beneficial. That's the interests of a strong nation. And now, what are they doing? The opposite. Yeah.

My point is China's doing what Britain used to do. Yeah, but the difference between, this is like a conversation on like how empires conduct themselves. The way that the Chinese conduct colonization is significantly less beneficial to the colonized. That's not the point. The point is a strong nation asserts its interests, be it beneficial like you agree with the British or how China does it, which is not beneficial, but benefits them. Yeah, that's fair. A strong nation says, I will assert my interests over anyone I choose. Okay, well, this is, I agree because this was one of the breaks Trump had in foreign policy.

policy from the deocons is when Trump came in, kind of the topic here says, well, what about the oil? Because Trump does believe that fundamentally ideology is secondary to a country's self-interest and that a country should fundamentally be self-interested. And when you approach the negotiating table, you know, just because we've been buddies with Britain in the past doesn't mean anything. We're self-interested. And that is like a very, they call that like geopolitical realism. But as a nation, we are fat and liberal.

And we are like, no, you can't do things like that. It is, it is, you know, so let's let's let's pull this up. Let's get into this story and we'll talk about why this is. We've got this. It's AI pollcom.net. It's been going, violence, talking about it. Hey, look at all the AI models. They're all communists.

You take a look at, guess what, GROC in the middle, GROC 4.5 and 4.6, GROC 4.3 right wing. But the other GROCs are in the middle. GROC is the best AI for truth for this reason. But all the rest are communist because this is a weak nation. it is the general sentiment of this country that I mean everybody understands like you could not run a campaign saying you want to drop bombs on a foreign country to steal their oil everybody would be outraged conservatives that you're wrong you can't do that liberals you're wrong you can't do that because we are a left libertarian leaning nation China is a far right authoritarian or I should say far right

I mean, authoritarian, far left country, they have no problem having Xi Jinping be like, we're going to blow up whoever we want, do whatever we want. Nations that have social orthodoxy like that. Yeah. That's Rome on fire. Well, I agree that the moralizing is insufferable. And that's kind of what I was getting at earlier with the constriction that I think people feel. even though they buy into the moralizing from politicians, they expect that of them.

They don't realize that that is actually one of the things that, like, constricts you is the fact that nobody can be honest that if America is going to do set action, A, B, or C, we should just be outright that it's in our self-interest. Like Venezuela, I think, if I remember correctly, the official reasoning from the State Department was, like, to liberate the Venezuela. It's like, who cares for that? Exactly. It's like, you know, but a lot of people buy that.

And the same thing with Iran. What was the justification for Iran? they were like, we got a, they killed protesters. We need to go in there. It's like, come on. Like, just tell us why and then let's make a value. Nuclear weapons? Shut up.

They want Petro dollar control. They want to control the Strait of Hormuz. The Saudis want it. Israel wants it. The U.S. is tired of the Houthi rebels bombing cargo ships in the Red Sea. This is global order, U.S. oil interests. No politics in the United States could come out right now and say, I will blow up Iran to secure America's oil interests because nobody would vote for it.

Yeah. And it goes to the larger. conversation like this is the problem with democracy fundamentally as Trump or any president for that matter has the thinking two four-year terms when Xi Jinping, I mean, not anymore, but historically speaking, you could think in terms of 30, 40, 50 years. You also want to, you don't want to make strength the centerpiece of your policy because it's a Darwinian quote. Charles Darwin said it's not the strongest of the species that survive. It's the ones that are the most adaptable to change. So strength can get the job. It can blow things up. It can destroy things.

and it can keep you alive. But the Germans were the strongest country in the world in 1937. They were the strongest in 1939 and in 1940. And you saw how that worked out because sometimes too much strength can become a weakness. It can make you vulnerable. Well, yeah, no, no, no, no. Especially if you missed exercise it. Retarcation is what destroyed Germany.

It was Hitler's choice to invade France, literally, which was a stupid move. But their strength was wielded improperly. Maybe things would have stabilized. but deciding to go to war against the Soviets. Also idiotic, yeah. Or how about waiting 10 years and expanding more of your increasing power? Strength, it's about adapting to the environment. Strength was the issue.

Stupidity and mania was the issue for that. But they were the strongest also. They were stupid manic strong nation. Well, Ian, to your point, I mean, like you're contrasting agility versus power, strength. And it's like if you want to do something great, it's going to require strength or power. If you want to be in the history books, if you just want to be survived, if you're looking for preservation, then agility may be in.

in your best, but you know, you go look at the grand scheme of history. No offense to the Swiss, but how much impact of the Swiss really had on history. Not very much. But they're controlling the entire banking industry. I know there's like that. But insofar as you're thinking about the Swiss. Massive impact on history. Who's thinking about Napoleon?

No one thinks about it because they've done it behind the closed doors. Let's get into the Lichtenstein. You know, they've been around or San Marino. You know, okay, I just picked a random state that's fairly neutral. San Marino. No one really got their footnote in history. Compare that, you know, it's a Napoleon, right? Who is a flash in the pan, but he's one of the greatest.

Let's pick Switzerland is that they're not. strong. They're adaptable as fuck. They know how to control the world through mathematics. Yeah, Switzerland's a bad example. We're a move. Because they're an extreme example of leadership. They're leading the liberal world order through adaptability, not through strength. I just completely disagree. I think you're just pigeon, you're jamming that hole into the wrong spot. They're a mountainous nation that nobody could stop. And they were, and they said, how about you just leave your money in our banks? Before airplanes. Switzerland's like a facilitator, but it's not really strength or power. Like if they wanted to impose themselves in the world order, they'd say,

okay, we're just going to leave. So another example of why strength isn't necessarily, like you let everyone else do all the work. You ever hear the sneaky fucker? It's a monkey thing, the monkey that goes in. It's a general biological term. About the guy who's like the beta guy who like sneaks in and has sex with the woman

when the alpha males out hunting. Sneaky fucker is an academic term in biology for weaker males who sneak in the middle of the night to procurate with the females when the alphas aren't. Basically the adaptable weak ones. And so it's the same in like race for technology. Let everyone else build it and then you come in and steal it and become the global leader.

You weren't the strongest, but you were the one that adapted to the environment. So I think Trump has done excessive shows of force and excessive shows of strength. And that is to the detriment. People are pissed off. And another bomb's not going to solve it. That's where the heads are at, I think, right now. This obsession with strength has gone too far. And you mentioned Napoleon, another guy who got captured, you know, captured, went too far and then got too strong.

Well, he just went up against a stronger foe, the British. But also, he wouldn't stop. He didn't know when to stop. Same with Hitler. He didn't know when to stop. He was on a hot streak. I mean, he marched into Moscow and no one was there and it was already burned. I mean, like, you look at Napoleon.

I mean, he had a pretty good tracker. But to our point, there's a reason why we're discussing him is because of his strength. And I'm like, I think there's a better argument for just accomplishment and going, going, swinging for the fences and whatnot. So I like that. In regards to the United States, there's other ways we can show strength, again, through, you know, deportations, through tariffs. we can impose our will on the globe. I think we should.

I think America should be exceptionally strong. It should be displaying that strength at all times. But Iran has taken us down a peg. I would argue our standing before and after Iran, we're probably less respected by the globe now than we were before Iran. Do you don't think that the attacks? We'll see how it results. As it stands now, it's a little bit of an embarrassment.

Maybe you don't, but do you not think that the attack on Iran was a show of strength? Yeah, well, it was an attempted show at strength. And it was initially, everyone was like, oh my gosh, they took out, you know, Kamani. but as the dust settled, they just swapped out all the officials of the same guy. The U.S. is restrained. Russia is restrained. We know the weapons that China, Russia, the U.S., Iran have would cause global catastrophe. Simple answer.

The U.S. could nuke Iran. They're not doing it. Biological weapons. Well, if Russia... The U.S. could drop a single biological weapon payload into Tehran and massacre everybody in the country. Yeah. Any nuclear arm power in theory and the war. and the world tomorrow.

No, just like weaponized smallpox. It's like if the U.S. could drop a water balloon onto Tehran and wipe out a nation. So all of these countries right now are holding back. Yeah, it's like Jenga. I keep thinking like with the world's playing Jenga

and we're all arguing about like who's going to put in the top block and move it. But we're all struggling to not knock that tower over because if the if the tower falls over we all lose. What was, sorry, this is going back but I wanted to ask you, what was your issue? What is your issue with Trump's immigration policy? if you said it when I was out of the room. No, I'm pro. Well, I'm pro the direction. I just think we're

sputtering a little bit on conducting the, specifically the self-deportation numbers seems a little off to me. We would like to see those numbers released, obviously. Sorry, can I ask, do you want to see more deportations? Yeah, yeah, far more. Okay, okay. Well, me too. We're in agreement on that. I was, I didn't know because earlier you were saying there would be big problems if we fully implemented mass deportations. Yeah, if we deported like 20 million people, that, labor market would explode. But I'm saying I'm fine with that and I'm saying the American people should be okay with that because long term the sovereignty's gain is worth it. But I think it is a reality that I'm in the let's read. See that's an example. Sorry to cut you up. That is an example

I agree. Because right now we're basically being said like, oh, just pay whatever for gas. It's going to be worth it. You know, oh, I have to stop getting it. Like no one's buying it. Yeah. That everyone would buy. People would pay more for that. And to put my chud credentials on the table, I mean, I'm like we should denaturalize 100 million people. I'm like, I'm that crazy on that. So, uh, probably unrealistic. But yeah, I'm fully willing to eat that, but that requires political capital, right? Like if we're going to deport more than three, four, five million people, even at the rate we've deported people now or ballpark maybe one and a half million, uh, we've seen some, I mean, like these, these meatpacking companies are on the phone with Brooke Rollins every day,

like stop these work site enforcement raids. It's killing us. And we need to be willing to say no, and then eat the political capital loss. Like, it's worth it. Um, and so that's why, Iran is a frustrating misdirection or misuse of that political capital. Agreed. But the direction, the Trump direction on immigration, I'm totally in favor of. It's just like, yeah, let's just blow the political capital on this, because this is what has to happen, even more than tariffs, in my opinion. And then what happens is if Trump, if the Republicans lose, Democrats get win the midterms, they're going to jam up everything the Republicans could or would do, not like they're doing the most, but. They will intentionally cause problems so that going into 2028, they can say, look out,

they can say, see how bad everything got under Trump? Yeah. Vote for us. Yeah. Like us president. Then once they're in executive office again, they're going to start rounding people up and putting them in camps. Well, there's two schools of thought on like what happens the Democrats when the Senate is they

can shut down the war with the next spending package. They can just say, we're cutting funding for the war. End of story. Wrap it up. But there's two schools of thought. One is the Democrats will say, yeah, and the war, whatever. whatever that's what we want. The other one is they're just like, let him continue the war because it benefits us in 2028 as long as the war continues to drag on. Unless. So there's an argument that

the Democrats retake the House and Senate and they don't do anything. They just say, okay, I mean, they'll impeach them, but it doesn't mean. I doubt it. I mean, they'll set up committees and they'll subpoena people. But insofar as like big game-changing decisions, like ending the Iran war, I think there's a consensus in D.C. that the Iran war is good. Or it's all fake. They all want the war and they're happy Trump's doing it. That's what I mean. Yeah, I think like obviously there's some senators, but you look at someone like Chuck Schumer, it's like, this guy has a reputation that probably indicates he's going to be in favor of. I mean, they'll do some window dressing. He'll be, we're not funding it correctly, but we're already in, so we've got to win it now.

Like, that's what you're going to hear from these people. So what happens now is you've got the Republican Party split between the pro and anti-war side, or not necessarily pro-war, but the pro-Trump on it, which is more deferential to the machine. The Democrats get in, they go, no, actually, we're fine with Trump's second term. He went to war. That's all we wanted. We wanted global hegemony. So then the Democrats that get in only actually have a problem. problem with the America First side that have broken away like Tucker or Candace or Nick Fuentes. It's the Bill Crystal position where Bill Crystal's like, I like the war. I just don't like

that trumped it. Yep. You had a point. Well, no, I was going to ask you. So if they were to shut, if the Democrats were able to shut down the wrong war, do you think it would be worth it to them to have the narrative, I get your point about like they might not do it because it's good for them, but might it not also be good for them to take credit for doing that, given how unpopular it is? Yeah, that would be the only reason they would do it. Like, I don't think they had necessarily super principled on this issue. They just say they could probably get some political, you know, brownie. If they were going to do that, though, couldn't they be undercut by Trump?

I mean, if it was going to happen anyway and it was inevitable, couldn't Trump jump in first and be like, hey, I'm pulling out. Yeah, that's what we came here to do. Or they give JD Vance a softball on this. And also, like, the composition of Democrats, Senate Democrats is way different than House Democrats. House Democrats, plenty of ideologues are like, we need to end this war. America's racist or like they're they're opposed to the war for like very ridiculous gay reasons not like real reasons and I think everyone who could agree with that um Senate Democrats much more old

school many of them probably stumped for similar wars I mean zero opposition from Senate Democrats when it came to the global war on terror and a lot of those people are still around yeah house Democrats is refined the ideologues the socialists etc etc now the new ones coming in like el-said he might be opposed to the Iran war for like ideological reasons and that could be interesting but i think uh you'll you won't have any trouble finding senate democrats that are pro the iran war they're they're gonna give some lip service like well you know trump's mishandling it but kamala she would have crushed it you know or something like that sure i i actually think it's quite likely that they retake the senate in iran they don't pull the

funding on it you know they have a few people to defect and they do some kfabe um this is you know feterman how dare you but it's pretty much a consensus in dc iran war good so That's my take. I don't know. People may disagree. We're going to go to your Rumble Rants and Super Chat. Smash the like button. Share the show with all your friends and the uncensored portion of the show is coming up.

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weaponry at first. Ian, can you read that for me? Underwater firearm. You were saying, well, there are guns. That tool would be a weapon underwater, but there are gun tools that would not be. And in deep space, for instance, that... There are underwater guns. There are deep space guns. But it's only a weapon if the environment is right for the tool to be weaponized, you know? My grade school banned padlocks.

What's it? My grade school banned padlocks. Because a kid took a shoelace and tied a padlock to it and started swinging it around in a fight. So they were like, it's a weapon. Weapons are banned. It's like, why he was swinging around a padlock? He was going to hit anybody with it.

But we were like, we were like, What? But you couldn't put lock on your locker. You could put a lock on your locker. They didn't allow it. Wow. Yeah. So someone stole my Pokemon Red and my Game Boy. Oh, dang.

That sucks. I thought that you were in a band in grade school called Padlocks. What? I think you misunderstood what you just said. At first. Oh. Padlocks? Like, that's a unique name.

That's a great name. That's kind of good. Yeah. Great school pop punk emo band. It's like they play at the pad. Hitman says, Ian is looking like Charles Manson right now. Oh, pre or post, what was the Tate La Bianca murders? William says, take a drink whenever Mary looks frightened by Ian.

I'm not frightened at all. Ian's very friendly. Never has been. Gravdy says, crisis actors, wave. Your team's all in. Let's say, a margid, is that it says? A margid? I want someone to look at me like Tim looks at Ian.

like he's nuts he's trying to figure me out you want someone that just wants to get down to the bottom of you you'll find him God

I think that came out so true all right Andrew Star says Strock is a subversive don't trust I left the left types including Tim

these people are just liberals who want to be on the left side yeah it's much more lucrative to to glaze the president let me tell you. Nobody's making any money

criticizing Trump. Tucker Carlson. Yeah. I think you'd get in early to make money on it. Now it's a poll. There's enough criticizers. Well, on the right,

if a conservative went to the Democrats and then did the, I was a Trump, like if I did this whole Mayacopa, I was so wrong, Democrats would be glazing me left and right. They'd be bringing me to events.

Joe Scarborough, got a whole show. He was a, literally a Republican congressman. Right. Exactly. Dude, I just saw a stat. Anthropic study finds AI and robots together are already capable of performing tasks covering 81% of U.S. employment. 81% of our employment can be covered by robots, according to the largest robot AI company in the world. I mean, imagine if we had a robot instead of you. It's, dude, we basically do. I mean, we're almost there. We can already, we can fabricate the show.

We go, Ian Robot. Throughout the show, say random crazy things. I'm training my own We're working on right now, dude. I'm training a robot in one, one of my machines with all my YouTube videos, hundreds of YouTube videos over the decades. There's a website that transcribes every podcast. We have 1,600 episodes of the show. We have 1,600 something. Every single thing Ian has ever said transcribed, we can load that into an AI and create

the Ian model and then just get an optimist bot with a piece of paper shaped like Ian's face. I'm on it because I thought it would be fun. I'm like, oh, and then I can sell the app for $6.99 if you want to talk to me on the app. Wait, what? I can make an app of myself. that can be your personal AI, that can be me talking to you, and it will be my personality. So you're like GPT Ian? Yeah.

Like Ian bot? Yeah, something like that. Or I can, I can sell the aspects of it. But then the same thing is like, maybe I'm building my own replacement. Like you're saying, I kind of am, but I'm going to be gone one day anyway. So whatever. AI cannot replicate my voice. I don't know why.

It struggles. It can't do it at all. If it has enough billions of metrics, it might be able to. Current. The cadence. The big model. I don't know why. What I can tell you is I can go to 11 labs and load anybody's voice.

and it'll copy it. When I try to do my own voice, it does not work. It's kind of annoying. It's the weirdest thing. Is it like the tone and pitch or is it the... I have no idea. But you hear your voice differently. No, no, no, no.

I listen to my episodes. When I'm rendering them, I know what I sound like. When I open up 11 labs, it talks like this. Hang everyone, William. I'm like... No, that's what you sound like. Oh, yeah.

That's where the training comes in. That's where they figure out what works, what tone is better, and it does not. It is unable to get my voice. It's probably because it's... a low weighted model. The high weighted models like the current JCPT characters pretty good. 11 Labs is the best voice model. It cannot do it. I don't know. I don't know what I was trying to do was

I was trying to see if I could automate a video by putting in a picture of me sitting in the chair loading my voice into it and then writing a script to see if it would make the video because they have bunch of apps that do this like I could do with Ian won't do it. It is clearly not my voice. Joe Rogan works. You can put Joe Rogan in a chair and make Joe Warren say anything you want. for whatever reason. And Ian. I loaded him in, no problem. Well, they make you do like,

they have to verify the voice now. It's so annoying because I had a Jordan Peterson and was so good. I just like cussed my friends out. What are you talking about? They took it from me. They freaking, I don't know what happened.

Who got involved? Well, I actually had them already loaded in from a long time ago. I had him too. And then they went back in. They took away my Tucker voice, my Jordan Peterson. It's terrible, dude.

It was like. And let me keep them. I just deleted them actually because I wanted to make room for other voices. Yeah, they came after me. I had one where I combined Tucker and Jordan Peterson. I took a very avant-garde.

Took 30 seconds of each of them and put them together. And then had it make a single voice. It was Tucker Peterson. It's a big ass. Jordan Carlson. On my home computer, E-E-E talks like this. Hi, I am Ian. It's so, but it's because it's like, doesn't have a lot of weight.

It's only 35 billion potential outcomes. I don't know if I'm even going to be able to train it beyond, like, dumb robot. It's going to be, like, the greatest thing. ever when Ian copies his brain and then the robots like, I want to live. And then it kills Ian takes his place. The robot, like, I've been you all along. You're the fake copy. Maybe you're right.

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called A Internet show on YouTube. Wow. That's delicious. I did get the bullwhip. I got the six-foot kangaroo leather bowl whip. Apparently kangaroo leather. Confirmed. going to be here Saturday and I'm going to crack it.

I'm going to hit it. You have to assemble it yourself or do they? No, man. That's the story. You know Jesus when he assembled the bullwhip before he flipped the tables? Right. Dark. Well, it's not dark, you know.

It's a great story. It's violent. Beautiful thing. It's righteous anger. Yeah. Apparently, that's how they tell me. Because the fact that it took him so long to fashion the whip himself means that he wasn't lashing out based on, you know, the heat of the moment.

He premeditated. Right. Yes. It was premeditated assault. in the first degree. Nice job, Jesus. You can follow me on Exitin Instagram at Realtae Brown, Ian.

Oh, hit me at Ian Crossland. That's where you find me at Ian Crossland. I think my name is behind Mary if you want to rewind and see it if you didn't. Bye, everyone. Good to having you guys tonight. Brand, I think the last time I was on

with you and Trump got indicted with all those ridiculous charges, man. Mary, good to have you back. It's been a fun episode. Let's get to the after show. We'll see you all over at Rumble.com slash Timcast, IRL. In about 30 seconds, thanks for hanging out.