Timcast IRL - U.S. Says NUKING IRAN Is The ONLY OPTION, Trump Won't Rule It Out w/ Stacy Washington

Episode Date: June 21, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Ian are joined by Stacy Washington to discuss the US saying a nuclear strike might be the only option against Iran, lawyers demanding the release of No Kings Protest shooting victim, and ...the accused Democrat assassin claiming Tim Walz instructed him to target Seantor Klobuchar.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Stacy Washington @StacyOnTheRight (X)

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Starting point is 00:01:40 Now, The Guardian reported that they were not considering doing this. However, according to Fox News, they said White House officials have not taken the use of a tactical nuke off the table. As according, once again, to several reports, it is the only way they're going to be able to destroy this nuclear facility, except for, it's funny they say, the only option. Now they're saying it's the best option because they could always launch a ground invasion of Iran and send humans into the Florida facility to take it over and shut it down. Oh boy. Hopefully this is a big ask. And what Trump is actually doing is saber rattling in the most extreme way possible so that Iran is forced to come to the table. But Donald Trump met with Steve Bannon recently, and he also got on the phone with Tucker Carlson. So it sounds like conversations are happening, at the very least, with the people who are staunchly opposed to U.S. involvement in Iran. And I'm hoping the direction it's going is Trump is heeding the advice of these men deciding not to go in. I'm hoping it's not the other way that Trump is trying to convince them the only move he's got is actually boots on the ground.
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Starting point is 00:04:40 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Stacey Washington. Hey, Tim. Who are you? What do you do? Stacey Washington. I have Stacey on the right on Sirius XM. I also host Stacey Washington Now Hey, Tim. Who are you? What do you do? Stacey Washington. I have Stacey on the right on Sirius XM. I also host Stacey Washington now on Salem News Channel. I'm an Air Force veteran, fourth generation to serve in the military in my family. I'm a gun nut. I shot marksmen on active duty. I like riding horses, reading books, and talking about politics. But
Starting point is 00:05:00 when I'm not working, I'm married. We have three kids and they're all young adults. And so, yeah, I'm a rabidly, righteously American loving patriot, but I also, I like everybody. So if Democrats still want to be my friend after all that, come on in. All right. Well, it'll be great to hear about your experience and your thoughts on what's going on in Iran with all that. So it should be fun. Thanks for joining us. Yeah, thank you. Ian's here wearing weird clothes. Oh, thanks. I've been doing a lot of research on Iran, the history of Iran. You know, Iran didn't exist until 1905, and it's heavily influenced by the British
Starting point is 00:05:34 throughout the course of this country's lifetime. I'd like to see Persia, the rise of the Persian Republic, come to fruition one way or another. Anyway, but let's get to it. Phil Labonte. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary but let's get to it. Phil Labonte. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it. Let's start with this from Truthout.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Now I'm going to tell you guys right away, Truthout and New Republic. I got these two pulled up first. These are leftist publications. Keep that in mind. We're just going to walk through where we're currently at with this claim that Trump's best or only option in destroying Fordow is a nuclear weapon. Truthout reports, U.S. reportedly assesses only a nuclear bomb could destroy Iran nuclear facility. One expert has warned that attacks on nuclear facilities should never take place because of radioactive fallout. We have this from the New Republic. Trump White House considers dropping nukes on Iran. Fox News reports that
Starting point is 00:06:26 Donald Trump may consider using nuclear weapons to eliminate Iran's Fordo nuclear facility. We have this from the Daily Mail exclusive. Pentagon Insider reveals why Trump's best option is to use a tactical nuclear weapon to obliterate Iran's deadly labs, saying only a tactical nuclear warhead would be certain to destroy Iran's key uranium enrichment base hidden inside a mountain, a military official has told the Daily Mail. It comes amid doubts that the 30,000 pound bunker buster bombs would be enough to destroy the secretive facility at Fordow, 60 miles south of Tehran. Tactical nukes are meant for battlefield use and do not carry the same devastating payloads as strategic nukes, which are used to topple cities. In this case, the warhead selected could be sized for the
Starting point is 00:07:09 Fordow site, though no tactical nuclear weapon has ever been used in combat before. Israeli officials have urged American forces to deploy multiple GBU-57 bunker busters to cripple Fordow, a plant being used to enrich uranium hundreds of feet underground. The depth shields the lab from airstrikes. We then have this. Newsweek, is Donald Trump considering tactical nukes against Iran? What we know. They say the administration has not taken anything off the table, including the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
Starting point is 00:07:39 If it decides to take military action against the underground Iranian facility at Fort O'Fox, news reported, citing a White House official. We then have this from Mediaite. White House denies Trump ruled out using a tactical nuke on Iran. And the root of this is the Guardian. Trump caution on Iran strike linked to doubts over bunker buster bomb. Officials say there are several things to consider that's now coming out. Donald Trump reportedly asked, can these bunker busters even take out this facility? And the answer is maybe not. The reason these things are designed to penetrate 200 feet, Fordo is 300 feet, which would mean they would need multiple successive strikes in the exact same spot.
Starting point is 00:08:23 That means one bunker buster goes in, detonates, and then in the crater, they need to send another one. The other issue, Iran has built the facility specifically underground because of the bunker busters, meaning it's also spread out. So a single successive strike of multiple bunker busters may not even stop this. And I believe Jack Posobiec said in Bannon's War Room, it may actually slow them down a year or two and doesn't solve the problem that Trump and others in the U.S. are purporting is there. Now, there's a question in the debate as to whether or not, one, they're actually going to make a nuke. Tulsi Gabbard says they've got the materials. They are enriching it above what they would need for power, but they don't believe they're working towards a nuke. That was March.
Starting point is 00:09:09 If that is the case, that the U.S.'s position is they cannot have the ability to enrich uranium at those levels for whatever reason, be it they build a nuclear bomb and launch it, or they give fissile material to a bunch of rebel lunatics, it stands to reason based on the reporting, at least what they want the public to think is that the only way they can do it is with a nuclear strike. Now, why would they do that? My opinion, big ask.
Starting point is 00:09:35 You run out of the press, headline after headline after headline, saying Trump, his only option is a nuke and they're not ruling it out. Then when they say, guys, I have an idea. What if we just send people on the ground into Iran and we don't have to use a nuclear weapon? Then people are going to go, whoa, yes, a boots on the ground invasion is the preferable choice. I wouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:09:57 You think a nuke is better? No, I don't think either of those options work for me. And this is the big ask. It's tell people we have to do a nuke and then say, we could do an invasion. You pick. And everyone, of course, is going to choose invasion. I don't see MAGA base in choosing an invasion. So no attempt with the bunker buster. Don't drop a mop.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Don't even try it. I understand what you're saying about the precision needed. It reminds me of the blockbuster with Tom Cruise, the second Top Gun. It was like an unbelievable movie about them hitting a target twice. They had to hit it two times and come up out of that curve, not get hit by the Sams.
Starting point is 00:10:33 It was impossible and only one guy could do it and it was Tom Cruise. And that was Iran. And it was Iran. So Top Gun Maverick, right? Right. They were calling it
Starting point is 00:10:41 the enemy in the movie, but it was very obviously Iran. Obviously. Crazy. Yeah, and it was an underground facility and it had a tiny little hole that they had to hit. And it was like an impossible task. And of course, Tom Cruise was able to do it like Star Wars. It was exciting. Oh, my gosh. It was exactly like. Oh, don't get me started. OK, so I'm just saying I would not buy that. Now, I understand that the subterfuge you're talking about and selling it. And Trump is good at that. That's one of his main things is he can sell people on things they don't want. He's a dealmaker. But we're talking about Americans who literally I remember giving speeches in D.C.
Starting point is 00:11:15 about the never ending wars in the Middle East, how much money we've spent, how much treasure and how Trump is not that guy. He doesn't believe in starting wars. He doesn't believe in entering issues or situations foreign policy wise that we don't have a tactical and strategic objective that we can meet or succeed and win and get out. But I just I can't see them doing that. I can't see them doing either of those scenarios without dropping the mop first. You want to read that headline? Ban and MAGA will get on board if Trump decides, yeah, okay. Yeah. So he's, he's a tactical overlord with language, right? He is an unbelievable historian, but I'm not with him on that. And I'm as big as it gets on MAGA. I've been to Mar-a-Lago six times. I've met President Trump numerous times. I have my picture with him numerous times. I believe in the guy. I don't believe in that. I don't want boots on the ground. I don't want it. opinion that the only thing that can happen that will prevent the Republicans from having at least
Starting point is 00:12:27 a good showing and can really derail President Trump's agenda is a bad economy. And I think that even this would— Well, if they don't pass the big, beautiful bill, that's major do if you want to have a good midterm result, because going into the midterms with no accomplishments, no achievable legislation that was actually passed, it's a do nothing Congress again, a president who can't control them. You have to pass the BBB. But on this, so two scenarios. The first one, he sells everybody on that. We sit here and hold our breath. He goes in, he's successful. Fordo is eliminated and we're out. That is a pristine situation that is so improbable. It defies all of the logic that we've seen in every other war we've engaged in. But if that
Starting point is 00:13:09 were to happen, the midterm is a piece of cake. More likely, we put boots on the ground. The tactical nuke is an obvious easy go. He just has to get the buy-in for that and hope that nobody else wants to get involved. But if we go in with boots on the ground, we're there. We might as well open up a military base, send over one of those big cornerstones they put in the ground every time we build something overseas. We're there forever. We just got done with that. That was the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. Americans are exhausted by that. Israel had reportedly stated that if the U.S. doesn't want to get involved, they'll use commandos. But the idea, so we have the map here.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Here's Tehran. I pulled this up quite a bit. Here's Qom. I think that's how you pronounce it. I'm probably pronouncing it wrong. But just south, if Google Earth ever decides to actually move. Yeah, it's 60 miles south. It's right over here, Fordow.
Starting point is 00:14:01 You can see it. Fordow. Okay. So look where my mouse is. You want to get there with human beings? That's dead center in Iran. There's no way human beings are getting in there, getting in that facility and taking it out. You're going to need ordinance.
Starting point is 00:14:16 They're going to have to carry that deep underground with a massive facility, which has what? Like a thousand? How many personnel are down there? Thousands? That we know of. Who knows? Wait a minute. They control the airspace over Iran.
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Starting point is 00:16:05 I mean, obviously, you have to control the whole thing in order to get out. You literally drive. They said they couldn't get in. They can get in. You drive to Iraq. Getting out is a problem. You drive out through Iraq. Literally, you drive to Baghdad and all that stuff. You drive from central Iran.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Drive out. You're driving. They have to get to high ground to get out. What are you driving? You're stealing. No, no, no. That wouldn't be just a commando raid like she said they have no air cover they have no air which means you're gonna land planes
Starting point is 00:16:29 so you're gonna find an airfield yeah you big big army a ton of them yeah i'm talking about big army stuff i'm i'm fairly certain that if you started landing planes even with control the skies you are going to be surrounded by hails of gunfire. Absolutely will be. So I don't see that as a reality to get humans on the ground unless you act. Like, this is insane. You're going to have to. Tehran is 10 million people. I don't see a reality. So when they're largely on the move evacuating out, but we already have, I think, 18 Patriot battalions.
Starting point is 00:16:59 They moved over that were elsewhere that they've moved into the Middle East. That was about a month ago. But sorry, I mean, 600 people each plus all munitions and associated material. I'm just saying in terms of the population density of the area, we're talking driving distance to 10 million people in a metro. Now, obviously, most of these people are not going to be engaging in combat, but it takes only a tiny percentage of 10 million to completely overrun anything you land in the region.
Starting point is 00:17:25 So, you know, we often talk about why guns are so important in this country. And the liberals don't get it. You know, Joe Biden's like, you want to go up against the U.S., you're going to need F-16s. And it's like, right, because an F-16 can occupy a street corner. It can't happen. No, it can't. This is why anybody who's played Starcraft or Warcraft or Command and Conquer knows one
Starting point is 00:17:44 of the best strategies, what do they call it, zererging. You mass produce tons of little dudes you don't worry about. So in these strategy games, you can build up your bases, build high-tech weapons. And then some dude just says, give me 50 billion little one-one soldiers and just send them all in and you win. And you also, in the more advanced strategies, they'll make a mass of one-one tiny crap that they'll send out to distract the artillery. And then you send the big guns in behind those little guys. Zerging. Yeah. Behind the Zerg, you send the big guns. My point, and I think Zerg is a reference to the smallest military unit in Starcraft.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Yes. It's a race in Starcraft. The Zerg, it's this insectoid race that impregnates and takes over planets and humans, you know, the Zerg. Well, I don't play that game. I actually, I'm in the last century. I play Age of Empires, but I'm just going to say I've been to the Middle East and I actually, I agree with you about the topography, but the issue isn't that. We have 40,000 troops there already. At max we've ever had, there's 500,000, but that was at the height of the conflict. We don't have a problem mustering people, getting them into location. We don't have a problem managing other groups. Air control is what that's called. F-16s buzzing the ground, hitting the sonic boom, knocking the windows out of everything.
Starting point is 00:18:56 People will not stand against that. They will disperse. Whoever's left, because you only have to do that once, and people are scattering. So it's not about that. It's about the will. Do we want to go in? Do we want air control? How many jets do we want?
Starting point is 00:19:09 USS Nimitz is steaming there right now. They're going to be close in a couple of days. They're going to be in theater. There's a lot of buildup. So let's try this. How many jets would you need? What is it called when it gets close to the ground and does a sonic boom? They're buzzing the ground, basically clearing the area so that troops can move.
Starting point is 00:19:27 How many of those jets do we have and how long can they operate? We have four air forces. We have over 14,000 aircraft. But we're not going to send 14,000 fighter jets to Iraq. We don't have to. Once the USS Nimitz gets there, we'll have plenty. We'll have plenty in the area. There's two strike groups.
Starting point is 00:19:43 That's a lot of air. But that's just what's on the water, Tim. We have air bases there. That's a lot of air. I just, I, I. But that's just what's on the water, Tim. We have air bases there. That's the 40,000. Certainly, certainly. I just am still not convinced that dense, that central Iran densely populated will be so,
Starting point is 00:19:56 like that you're going to deal with single individuals with bombs and guns. No, you need to invoke a revolution among the Iranian people. Let's just talk about Afghanistan and the Taliban. I mean, we had all this. We were there for 20 years and we still weren't able to stop a bunch of goat herders in caves with guns. But they had tunnels
Starting point is 00:20:12 and they had time on their hands. But these are major metro cities, highways, and there's weapons and infrastructure there already. So, I mean, we're not talking about going to cave guys with tunnels and, you know, respect that that is powerful defense. We're talking about a developed mountainous nation where we would have to land vehicles to send troops in to go into one site 60 miles south of Tehran, which I imagine is
Starting point is 00:20:35 heavily fortified. And like, what's the purpose here? If we blew up the nuclear program, then what, in three years they have another one? Like, it's obviously regime change. They want the Ayatollah. But that's what Bibi Netanyahu said on TV last week. So I agree with you that the boots on the ground scenario is the worst one for us. It's the worst. It's the one the American people support the least. And I'm not talking about just MAGA people. Overall, 65% of Americans do not want war. So, and then the rest of them, I don't know if they're crazy nutjobs or how do we even get that big of a percentage. But I think so President Trump has always been a flood the zone guy. He's always been like that.
Starting point is 00:21:13 So that's what this feels like. He puts a lot of military equipment out front. He puts it in the face of the Iranians. They're still reeling. They lost 19 of their people over the past week. Leadership people, they're afraid. They're worried about traveling. They want to decamp from Iran. They can't because they're afraid they're going to get killed. They're now making some tacit promises that they won't kill this one. They won't kill
Starting point is 00:21:34 that one. I think they're going to kill whoever they can. They've been very, very effective, the Israelis so far. But I can't see a scenario where we go in with tactical nudes and especially boots on the ground where we haven't with tactical nukes and especially boots on the ground where we haven't tried the bunker buster. The thing about the bombs, and Posobiec mentioned this when he was talking to Steve Bannon, is that you don't know if it succeeded after the chaos and everything falls, explosions, even if you bunker busted it and nuked it, you still wouldn't be able to confirm that you blew up on your nukes. Why can't we leave that to the Israelis? The way it sounds to me is we're just talking about taking this whole thing over
Starting point is 00:22:03 and it's going to be America and Iran. The Israelis picked this fight. They started it. I support Israel. I'm not against them, but let them go in and continue what they've gotten started. We bunker bust and then, you know, back to you. You can kind of argue that the British and the Americans started it with overthrowing their Democratic. In 1955, they overthrew the Mohamed Mosaddegh.
Starting point is 00:22:25 They overthrew their prime minister and they installed the king but but you can't argue that now what 50 years later six years later the reason the rise of the islamic republic occurred is because they have this autocratic king in control of their country that was shoved in there by the british and the americans in 1955 operation ajax it was. They were tired of the democratically elected prime minister of Iran nationalizing their oil and auditing the Anglo, you know, Iranian oil company and trying to make a legitimate country for his people. They wanted control of the country and they got it until 1979. And then the, you know, what's his name? Rudola Khomeini comes along and he's like, fuck the monarchy. He had no solution. He just knew what the problem was.
Starting point is 00:23:07 So he screamed about the problem. They put him in charge and then he created, he lied to them. He told them, I'm going to make you a republic. And then he turned it into an autocratic theocracy. So that's- As revolutions tend to go, you know. Yeah, it's so similar to the Russian,
Starting point is 00:23:21 the Soviet revolution. You get this Lenin guy comes in, just like the Ayatollah comes in. Ten years later, he's dead. And the new guy now, we got Ali Khomeini, who's a real... Who's like Stalin. He dispersed parliament in 1990. Went full autocracy.
Starting point is 00:23:36 That's what Homer was talking about, huh? Who was talking about it? Homer. Homer Simpson? He's talking about all the Ayatollahs before. No, he's talking about Khomeini. He was definitely talking about Rudolf Khomeini, the first one. Right, so let me, which is interesting because Khomeini is the current one. Here you go, everybody.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Just some context from the 90s. Can we get rid of this Ayatollah t-shirt? Khomeini died years ago. But Marge, it works on any Ayatollah. Ayatollah Nachbada? Ayatollah Zahedi? Even as we speak, Ayatollah Razmara andollah Nachbada? Ayatollah Zahedi? Even as we speak, Ayatollah Rasmara and his cadre of fanatics are consolidating
Starting point is 00:24:08 their power. I don't care who's consolidating their power. I agree. I don't care who's consolidating their power. Why are we involved? He got in, and the Ayatollah, you know, he was whatever. I don't know. In ten years, he didn't destroy Parliament. It was the next guy that came in. This theocratic regime that took
Starting point is 00:24:24 over after the ayatollah died after komani died so i don't know so real quick and i mean it's honestly why should i care because when a psychotic regime gets in power they can decimate everything what does that mean hitler like the if if okay the argument here is if in 1938, the French, who had the biggest and most powerful military on Earth, and the best tanks on Earth, had invaded Germany with the British, they would have stomped the Germans, Hitler, they would have taken Hitler out of power.
Starting point is 00:24:53 If the French attacked Germany before in 1938, because Germany was still fledgling, they had a big military, but it was either East or in the West. The French were ready to rock, they just didn't anticipate the sneak attack. It was the Maginot Line, and they thought it wasn't going to be penetrated, and then Hitler just went around it, and they were like, ah, crap. Yeah, and they had tanks. They had amazing, big, beautiful tanks, but they would keep
Starting point is 00:25:13 the tanks with their infantry. That was the modern war tactic of the day, is your tanks support your infantry. They move at infantry speed, so very slow. But the Germans made divisions of tanks, so they were super quick. They could get behind your lines. If the British and the French had stomped Hitler before that and taken him out of power this ridiculously unfounded nazi regime that was just killing to get power if they'd taken out taking them out it stopped it sooner and we may not have seen world war two they were still we may not have seen a world it might have been a worse world war you never know you make an interesting point maybe we should send boots on the ground into iran to prevent world war three this is what this is what your argument is well this is what
Starting point is 00:25:47 the israeli government and benjamin netanyahu's been saying for like 20 years and i've just thought of him as a raving madman but you know just real quick you know you take one look at ian and you see this like long hair and this weird jacket and you're like this guy's gonna be a hippie and he's like we have to invade iran earlier you made a remark and i was just like, man, you just sound like a CIA interesting guy. Well, this is the mindset of the people that want to topple the Iranian regime. They see it as like a potential Nazi regime about to attack. When you were
Starting point is 00:26:13 like, we need to start a revolution over there, I'm like, that's what the CIA does. I want to see the Iranians have their... Iranians should have their republic. It's called the Iranian Republic and it's a theocratic autocracy. Ian has also in the past called for spreading American constitutional democracy to other countries.
Starting point is 00:26:32 What if it just turned out he was CIA the whole time and it's all an act? I think, I like the culture victory or the scientific victory. If you can convince people to rise up and create their own democracies, that's the way to go. People aren't really ready for that. Okay, so this is like the, uh, the star Star Trek where they had the prime directive. You can't
Starting point is 00:26:51 go in and drop technology on a, you know, primitive people. They did anyway. They did. But I mean, they did have the prime directive. They at least thought they wanted to do what was right. This is the problem with all of our nation building tendencies, which have really come to not is we find people who are way behind us technologically, and then we try to turn them into what Democrats call a democracy, but we're actually a republic. He is getting 20s right now.
Starting point is 00:27:15 That's what I'm talking about. And they did that with the Shah in 1955 after the coup, and they modernized Iran through American and British ideals. But the Shah, the king, didn't set up a republic. He should have turned his country into a legitimized republic and then stepped down. Instead, he just held onto power
Starting point is 00:27:33 as an autocrat and hasn't properly formed their administration. I have an idea. What if we don't? Then they may get a nuclear missile and they may use it or... Maybe. I don't know. I'm thinking about this. I don't know how far they go because one thing we can count on is that the Israelis have Mossad and they have been going in and methodically picking off their nuclear scientists. Every few years they go in and they kill basically everybody
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Starting point is 00:28:48 how many ballistic missiles do they have left? If they had any left, they wouldn't be allowing the Israeli Air Force to control their airspace. So I'm with you on wanting to prevent them from having a nuke. The question is, how do we get it done? And how do we not look like our previous selves, where we have failed epically
Starting point is 00:29:02 at building nations and regime change. We don't do that well. I don't think the nuke is the issue. And I think even Trump and the U.S. don't think it is either. I think when you take a look at what Tulsi Gabbard said, that they are enriching uranium higher than what would be expected for civilian energy use, but we do not believe they're pursuing a bomb. Well, then what's the conclusion? They want to- They're making dirty bombs. Dirty then what's the conclusion? They want to send out material. They're making dirty bombs. Dirty bombs, send it out to the rest of the...
Starting point is 00:29:27 Exactly. But that's not unusual thought, Tim, because a lot of regular Americans, I have people calling me last, or night before last on the show, asking exactly that question. What are they doing with that nuclear material? Look what they did on October 7th.
Starting point is 00:29:39 They're the sponsors of October 7th massacre on Israel. They want to do the same to the United States. Hamas promised to do it again and again and again until Israel was destroyed. So the question is, how do we prevent that? Well, the easy answer is bunker busters or a nuclear weapon or I don't think hated. I hate this idea of boots on the ground. I'm so sick of hearing the words boots on the ground because those are all people. And I have a special interest in it because I was on active duty in the Air Force during the Cobar Tower bombing.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I went in the January rotation because my husband, who was my boyfriend at the time, was like, you don't want to go in the summer. You're scheduled to go in the summer. There's an opening in the January rotation. Take that. So I went, got my stuff out of the way. I was there 94 days, C-130 back home. I'm on the beach when the Cobar Towers are bombed. And the guy who lived across the hall from me who had just transferred in three days before I left, he was the one who took my spot and he died with the 18 others. To clarify, I'm saying riding the C-130 sounds fun. Not the other parts. Well, yeah, that was fun. And we had, you know, mow bags and it was kitted out for military use,
Starting point is 00:30:42 not civilian. It was awesome. But I sometimes I feel like my old self where I used to be just to turn it to a sheet of glass kind of a person. I felt like there was no engagement that we shouldn't get involved in. I was on active duty back then. Now I'm a mom of three young adults. I don't want my kids drafted into a war over there. Honest question. What if we, and I mean this seriously, what if we dropped something like 100,000 machine gun mounted robot dogs? They'd probably get used against us. I don't, like if they're encrypted and they're like, I don't think they're going to be able to break into them at any meaningful amount of time. And so what I mean is...
Starting point is 00:31:18 The robot dogs to go to the fordo? To start securing areas. Oh, we need divisions of robot dogs. Have you seen the videos of the robot dogs with guns mounted on them? They could be easily dropped. The cost is ridiculously minimal. I mean, these things are thousands of dollars.
Starting point is 00:31:33 So it could be, it is technically expensive, but I mean, for the US military, not that much money to strap an AI little dog with a gun that can fire. This is, we're talking about drone use. And if we control the skies, you unload a bunch of these things, they'll take over a whole area, and it's going to be... And then what?
Starting point is 00:31:50 If you want to get people in there. Okay. Commandos, not... What if Israel sent in commandos and we just dumped 50,000 robot dogs? Okay, I'm there. They can also blow up supply lines, the robot dogs. They can kamikaze. We do need divisions of drones. This is what the Germans figured out as divisions of tanks in the beginning. They can kamikaze. Yep. We do need divisions of drones. This is what the Germans figured out
Starting point is 00:32:05 as divisions of tanks. In the beginning, they were just using the tanks to support the infantry, like I was saying earlier. People will be using their drones to support their ground campaign, but we need autonomous,
Starting point is 00:32:15 I don't know about autonomous. Terminators. Semi-autonomous divisions of Terminator drones. We need those because they're getting built. Just like with skull faces. Well, the Israelis already used drones
Starting point is 00:32:23 during this current. Flying ones. Yeah, they had flying drones in there and they were doing really well with them. They set up drone base beforehand. They actually snuck in. I'm curious about one word. So, a lot of people think that we'll get to the point where humanoid autonomous machines will be
Starting point is 00:32:37 running in. I don't think so. There's no reason to set... Humanoids are good for moving dishes into the dishwasher or taking groceries in the car. If you're talking about war, quadrupedal, gun-mounted thing with – and it's got the arm on top that can manipulate stuff. That's going to secure a location better than a humanoid. They're harder to hit. Faster. And they're faster.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah, and they can move over rocky terrain. Yep. I wouldn't be surprised if we see that. If this does go, people – it's going to get weird. They've got these robots sorry real quick some of these robot dogs we've shown not only do they have the legs but there's wheels and they're so they're they're rubber and they can walk but then the wheels can spin and they can drive so it can run over the rocks get on the ground go and then zoom ship forward they fly yet are
Starting point is 00:33:20 there like ground ones that can i'd be willing to bet they they have those i'd be willing to bet yeah so my i think the most likely situation of a british american israeli victory if you want to look at that from this the war tech technique is that they depose the iranian government and then they impose the shah's son they call him the prince in exile and then they have another monarchy which i think is a fucking fail. You don't want another monarchy. There would be a civil war. There would be, probably. But the last civil war was impotent. 90 million people in this region.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And it is not like it is a singular ethnic group with singular religious group. But what will cause a horrific civil war is if we colonize or we establish drone, like if we set up military. I agree. That would be the worst civil war in Iran, I think. I think the ideal scenario actually for the U.S. and for U.S.'s partners is that the current regime stays in power, but is deferential to the demands of the West.
Starting point is 00:34:16 The argument being that if we were to remove this regime, you would end up with ISIS-style insurgency all over the country you can't control. The clergy, they call it the clergy, they used to have ceremonial power amongst the Shah. The Shah kind of relegated them to secondary. They weren't super powerful. Then they were, and then they weren't, and then, of course, now they are in charge. But we could relegate we.
Starting point is 00:34:40 They could be relegated back to a position of just religious authority. Extricating that from the way those people think. I don't know enough around it. They only think about killing the West, the little Satan and the big Satan. Let's real quick jump to the story, advance the narrative here from the Daily Mail. Trump warns Iran could launch nuclear war in weeks as it's pummeled with Israeli bombs and city is struck by 5.1 earthquake. Now, you know what? That earthquake thing's actually really scary. Man-made? Well, who knows?
Starting point is 00:35:13 The argument being, was it an earthquake? Was it testing a nuclear weapon? Or was it a bunker buster? Or were they testing a nuclear weapon? Or like... Deep underground? Denial weapons, like vibration tech. They might have been...
Starting point is 00:35:23 I don't know about that. Maybe. Nikola Tesla set off an earthquake in lower Manhattan. A lot of the speculation is immediately like, did China bring in the components to finish the nuclear weapon? And did they just test a detonation underground? Or is it a coincidence that a 5.1 earthquake just hit Tehran? I think volcanic activity. And that's very close to Fordow.
Starting point is 00:35:44 There are frequently seismic activity in the area. Yeah, they have earthquakes there. Yeah. I think volcanic and seismic activity are related to terrestrial explosives, too. You can induce earthquakes. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I mean, the question is whether or not it was natural or whether it was an underground nuke. Or, you know, if they're testing one. If they're like, oh, it tested up and off, so let's put it together and see if we can make one work. I think they said it was in Sork. How close to Tehran is that? It's 23.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Let me actually check. Let me see if I can pull it up. Let's see. They are testing what they got. It is actually rather far away from Tehran. So they would test it far away from Tehran if they're going to test it. This is something Scott Horton... And it is kind of in the middle of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Scott Horton was talking about the differentials of the nuclear fissile material. You got your plutonium and then you got uranium. The enriched uranium bombs, well, they make bombs. They don't make missiles because it's so heavy. You need a big, big bomb. That's what they dropped on Hiroshima. Then the plutonium stuff you can put on the end of a missile. It's a lot lighter, but the Iranians don't have access to that stuff. They don't have the plutonium enrichment capabilities. They have the uranium. But that doesn't indicate that they're
Starting point is 00:36:58 going to be able to shoot a missile with it anywhere. They'd have to load it into a big plane and it'd be very obvious. They don't have the delivery system for that. Not for air-based, but there are other ways of launching. You know, you can launch... Okay, wait, sorry. Correction. It actually is rather close to Tehran. So they're saying it's south of Semnan
Starting point is 00:37:18 City, not province, which is probably within 60 to 100 miles of Tehran. Okay. Interesting. We would take our- Not too far from Fordow. Is it like the middle of a desert
Starting point is 00:37:29 where there's not a lot of stuff? Yes, it is. All right. Well, that could be a secondary target. Put it on the map, guys. Interesting. The Defense Department wants some help. Let me know.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Check this place out. I can actually- Ground-penetrating radar. Let's use this new Doppler tech that they were scanning underground the pyramids with and look for these. I mean, I feel like they already have all that data. 183 kilometers.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Yeah, because if Trump said they weren't going to nuke, that would make me think that they were. There's a mind game upon mind game. Because he was just at the press briefing, or. He's out with reporters and they're asking him specifically, are you going to bomb? You know, are you going to bomb on behalf of the Israelis? And he said, what? What? That's the dumbest question I've ever heard. Why would I tell you that? So talking about the nuclear, this story, you know, how often do we play stories? Our media is a part of the story. The story gets placed that the only thing that can work as a nuclear weapon, then you're back to Tim's suggestion that they're really going to offer us something much less,
Starting point is 00:38:32 which is the boots on the ground, which I still think- Big ask. I'm like, I think there's something like genetically in humans that love the idea of a leader, of one human leading us to victory. Yeah, but Trump needs Congress's approval, supposedly. He's got the Patriot Act, but he's supposed to say, look, we have to destroy their, instead
Starting point is 00:38:50 of being like, they just can't have it, guys. Sorry. Shut up. I'm in charge. No, no, no. You say they can't. He can take action. He just has to inform Congress within 48 hours.
Starting point is 00:38:58 He can put boots on the ground, but he has to, within 90 days, go to Congress and ask for their permission to continue funding. So he has a lot of room to do things immediately, but then afterwards he has to mop it up. Is that because of the post-Patriot Act or is that what it was? Pre-Patriot Act. Yeah. He's always had the ability to just, he can just do a few things, 48 hours to notify Congress. Now, I don't know about the nuclear. Like, I don't know if the launching nuclear weapons falls under that like blowing up an enemy ship maybe would be considered because it's emergency and you don't have time to appeal to congress that's not even really an emergency argument department of defense just department
Starting point is 00:39:32 of defense can do it president trump authorizes from the situation room they inform congress within 48 hours he's within the rules of of declaring that's that's how conflicts okay all right i mean uh you didn't know that? No, not that, not that, no, no, no. I thought like Woodrow. He's commander in chief of the military. He's allowed to, he can fully direct the military to do operations and.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Ian, when was the last time you went to the White House? I don't think I've ever been. You've never been? I've never been. I watched that in totality two days ago. I was like, I owe it to Dave Smith and Douglas. I got to watch this. Here we are.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Have you been to Iran? No. Oh, well, none of us have. I've been to Saudi Arabia. I've been falsely accused of going to a Holocaust deniers conference in Iran by the SPLC, which is not true. Two weeks ago, someone called into an earlier program on Sirius and accused me of being an honorary member, having received honorary membership in the KKK. Here's another thing about them trying to stop their bomb. Well, you know, the KKK's new DEI program is, you know.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I mean, if they want me, they can honor me as all they like. I obviously don't care for the KKK. But anyway, Tim, what I want to know is, because obviously we're sitting around here at this table discussing this. I wish, if we talk about going to the White House, I want to go in the Situation Room and just sit in on the discussion surrounding what they actually know about Fordo. I feel like they know so much more than what we could possibly understand about it. This is my concern with Trump meeting with Bannon because – and apparently – I don't know. I think Tucker called Trump and then apologized for saying that he went a little too far with the things he had said because Tucker had said that Trump was complicit in this war. But then also said Trump was negotiating in good faith to stop it. So I think Tucker deserves a great deal of respect in that regard.
Starting point is 00:41:19 But meeting with Bannon and the talk with Tucker, my concern is Trump's basically saying to them, guys, you know me. Here's why. Like Bannon worked with Trump in the White House. Bannon's like, no, no, no, no, we can't do this. Trump sits down with Bannon and says, here's what I can tell you. Slides a piece of paper over and be like, this is why we do what we do. And then Bannon might be like, holy crap. If the president, any president were just like, I want to fire missiles at that building in that country, they can just do it.
Starting point is 00:41:46 And then they have 48 hours to go to Congress and be like, well, hold on. They can do it over and over and over and over and over again. No, no, no. That's not how it works. The president, if he wants to blow up a building, can just do it. And he goes to no one and then just smiles, puts on a tan suit and everyone forgets about it. That's post-Patriot Act reality. But before that, you're supposed to, Congress is supposed to issue the war declaration.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Let me tell you about Barack Obama's disposition matrix, where he'd be like, he'd be like, kill that guy. And then he went to no one, and no one did anything about it. They didn't do anything because he was the first black president, and you couldn't be on the wrong side of history by disagreeing with him. The reason I'm bringing this up is kind of... He's just straight up killing people.
Starting point is 00:42:20 He was, and Americans at that. I mean, obviously the guy was, you know, hanging out with Al Qaeda, but he was still an American citizen. The way that Trump is dangling it. Well, not even Omar, his kid. Right. Abdur Rahman wasn't hanging out with anybody. He was just eating Yemeni food.
Starting point is 00:42:33 The way that Trump is dangling the power right now of like, well, I could nuke him, or maybe I won't. It's like one guy. We're supposed to have a democracy that prevents one guy from having that kind of power. Yes. No. No. Your checks. Hey, kind of power? No. No. No.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Hey, listen to me. No. Tell me why. Because in the Constitution it clearly says that the president is the commander in chief of the military. The Constitution intentionally gave the power to command the military
Starting point is 00:43:03 to the president. It's Article II power, but not war declaration. No, not declarations. But he can engage in strikes. He can move military around. And the reason why, and the reason why the Founding Fathers did this, is because they learned the history of committee, democracy, and anarchy of the past. Great examples throughout history of when committees were gathering like,
Starting point is 00:43:23 we've been invaded. What should we do? Senate meeting. And they all run together. and then their cities are being ransacked. And three weeks later, they're still meeting at the table while everything's going wrong. Right. So that's why he can respond immediately, because the president is the only one who gets the highly classified briefings on a daily basis or every other day or whatever schedule he sets, where he gets intel briefings on what's going on around the world. And the requests are then made by the Department of Defense or whoever that they want to move these troops or do this or that.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Or this general wants to like the testimony that I can't remember the guy's name, but he was in charge. He had been called on the carpet by a bunch of female congresswomen. And they were upset with him because he gave the order to kill 200 mercenaries that were in between our operators and their targets in Syria. And he said, yeah, I gave the order and we eliminated them because they were mercenaries and they're affiliated with no other military. So we were not required to give any notice. We wiped them out because they were in our way. Next question. Well, he was able to do that because he'd been given authorization. And that was the rules of engagement and how far he could go set by every president. Like President Trump authorized the dropping of the MOAB during his first term.
Starting point is 00:44:29 He gave that authorization. And then he said afterwards, if you need to use it again, we don't have to go through all these hoops. Just do it. So they used it one time. But it's up to the president to set the rules of engagement and what type of authorizations they need from him. But at the end of the day, he can authorize and then go back to Congress after. I appreciate authorizational authority. You need it to remain agile in conflict.
Starting point is 00:44:51 But if we're planning an invasion of another country, it's not an emergency. We have weeks to debate this in Congress. It's Congress's decision whether or not we're going to deploy troops or missiles on a foreign nation that has not aggressed on us. I don't think that we're at a point where we're planning an invasion yet. That's what we've been talking about. But wait, I'm just going to get with you right here. We're going to link up arms on this. Congressional authority should mean that they're already in meetings with him demanding to
Starting point is 00:45:20 know when he's going to come and present his plans to Congress. But we haven't had a Congress like that since I've been an adult. So, I mean, they just they've ceded everything that's their responsibility to the bureaucracy or to the executive or to Supreme Court. So they don't have to be the ones to take responsibility for it because they're up for election every two years. I don't care about that. My bet. So the Nimitz is supposed to arrive tomorrow. My bet is still that Trump's going to say, we're going to secure the Strait of Hormuz. We don't want to engage in hostilities.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Then for whatever reason, I'm not going to speculate, is anything beyond U.S. forces are attacked in the region by Iran or Iranian-backed forces, and then the U.S. says, we have no choice but to intervene. They'll find a passport, floating in the water. It's proof it was an Iranian submarine. Shout out to 9-11. Shout out to 9-11. Shout out to 9-11.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Check it out. He found his passport. I think I've heard of it. It's proof. Well, okay. Shout it out. I think you might be right, Tim. The false flag potential right now.
Starting point is 00:46:18 And again, I'm not speculating it's a false flag. It could even be a video of a thing getting blown up. So already, already we've got several tankers have been either collided or disrupted because of the communications, the jamming. There have been reports that the tankers that are going through the Strait of Hormuz are registering as being in rural Russia because of the signal jamming that's already going on because of the war. Iran is reportedly threatening to shut the Strait down. It's a power move they have because they control so much of it, which is going to piss off the Asian Peninsula – I'm sorry, the Arabic Peninsula. And so the U.S. is going to say – and this is all speculative. I'm probably wrong. Maybe it's a 7 percent chance happening. We are simply going to secure the access from the Persian Gulf out to the Indian Ocean so that our trade partners can keep
Starting point is 00:47:05 trading their fuels and supplies. And then all of a sudden there's an explosion on the Nimitz. There's a loss of life. Reports all across the U.S. saying Iran has formally attacked. And then they're going to say this is war. And how could you disagree? And it triggers a defensive pact, I'm sure, somewhere. Being the one that got attacked gives all your defensive allies a chance.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Qatar, Saudi Arabia, they'll all say, like, this is horrible. We condemn this attack. We stand with the United States. And then you get war. I've got mixed feelings on the Iranian. I mean, I can't. I will say this. Look, considering the way things are going in Trump's first term with the Abraham Accords,
Starting point is 00:47:43 I'd love it if Iran, if there was a meaningful diplomatic way that changed the culture or the government structure by which the Abraham Accords could succeed without Iranian influence. Interference. Yeah, absolutely. And so I think one of the one of the things that a lot of these neocon types interventionalists are looking at is Trump hit a grand slam with the Abraham Accords, normalization of trade with Israel and other Muslim nations. Iran's the holdout. I mean, they are the major thorn in the side of these agreements. Trump wants world peace. I genuinely believe that. And you can make every argument you want. But I would say to the leftists when they're like, Trump doesn't care about his ego. Then my argument to liberals is this. Trump's got such an ego. He wants a gigantic golden statue of him for all time of the man who brought about world peace.
Starting point is 00:48:32 He wants that legacy. Iran stands in his way. Who cares why he wants the world peace? He's the one who want it, right? All the other presidents were fine with going in here, going in there, a little interventionalism there, there. They were fine with putting boots on the ground. Like you said, drone King Obama, he was just droning the crap out of everybody. And he didn't do anything to draw down forces in the Middle East. Trump drew forces down. He set in motion the plan to withdraw from Afghanistan, which was something that active duty
Starting point is 00:48:57 service members had been asking for for over a decade. So whatever the reasoning is behind what he wants the peace, he wants it because he's like, you know, wants to take credit. Okay, great. Take credit. Question is piece at what cost? Someone in chat says draft Congress also. Seconded. Draft kings. No. Draft kings. Draft them all.
Starting point is 00:49:18 They're so old, guys. Come on. Sure. I don't care. Do they still have to go? They should have to vote for the declaration. If they vote yes, then they're on the front line. When I'm looking at if this was a video game, which it's not, obviously, like a game of civilization, and you've got this one country that's this radical theocracy
Starting point is 00:49:34 that's hell-bent on attacking. Of course you have to remove them from the playing board if you want to win the game or continue playing or they're going to attack you. I've got to tell you, Ian. I've played many a game of Civilization. Here's the way I play. You ever play Civilization? No.
Starting point is 00:49:52 One of the greatest games ever, but the new one apparently was miserable. Yes, I've heard that. But what I do is I usually just very – so the game starts and you're like a little nomadic settler and you build a little city. I immediately produce settlers and I secure a large swath of land for my country. It's like Age of Empires. Yeah. And then what I do is I heavily focus on developing technology, make a
Starting point is 00:50:13 strong military, and the moment anyone attacks, I flatten them. Kind of like NATO. So I will not invade anybody. I'll mind my own business. But they always try and there's a little dude who breaks in, and then I immediately just slam their country and take it over. Well, what if someone's just walking a settler
Starting point is 00:50:30 through your territory? You attack the settler and take it? Well, if I have a border, if I have an agreement with that country to allow open borders. What if it's just a country you don't have any agreements with? Do you take the settler if it's available? The settler has to be killed. No, I'm pretty sure in Civilization, I don't know if the later editions are different,
Starting point is 00:50:47 you can't send any kind of unit into enemy borders. Oh, I mean outside your borders. Just if you see him walking around in neutral territory, will you attack and take a settler? Oh, I will. No. You want to win. You need to win.
Starting point is 00:50:58 That's why you're playing is to win. No, my point is I will mind my own business and go for a science or cultural victory. Yeah, those are nice. And if they attack me, then they get the full brunt of my force, and they will regret that attack. If only it were so easy as a video game, because I'm with you. I love playing that strategy, the turtle and fire route. Turtle and fire.
Starting point is 00:51:15 The best tanks, the best missiles, the best aircraft, no obliteration at a whim, and then you. I'll have to try it. It's fun. Unfortunately, reality has collateral damage. So do four. External emotions. One or Nimoy. Video games don't have to try it. It's fun. Unfortunately, reality has collateral damage. So do four. External emotions. Video games don't have emotions. I think pretty much everyone on Earth is
Starting point is 00:51:29 concerned with the theocracy of the Iranian government, if you want to call it that. I don't think they care about the Iranians. The Russians and the Chinese, I think they're looking at it like, aren't the Saudis like Sunni Wahhabi? They are, but they're very westernized. They put aside all of the kind of more problematic
Starting point is 00:51:45 tenets of Islam because they really want to have a good relationship with the West, especially the United States. And we have our bases there. You know, they just recently, a few years back, allowed women to drive. I drove when I was stationed there. I drove, but I had to have on a military uniform and my hat on because you can't be driving there as a woman unless you're on active duty back then. Now women can drive. They're slowly modernizing in ways that we would notice, but for them, it's huge steps. What about race issues in Saudi Arabia? When I was there, my gosh, those people were so nice. We went off base. My main concern was not the people. It was the religious police because you can't show your wrist bone, your collarbone,
Starting point is 00:52:24 or your ankle bone as a woman. So I had to wear jeans and long sleeve shirts, sweatshirts, had to be buttoned up to the neck because they can't see this or the religious police can beat you. Even as a US troop? Well, they would give you a warning, but you'd have to immediately leave the area. And I was told by my commander, we don't want we don't want incidents here. So you're not going to show those things because we don't want to have to come rescue you from the from the police. But the big deal with the Saudis is didn't President Trump just give him a nickname? He said, this is my friend, Johnny MBS. His nickname is now Johnny. I mean, these people really want to be in close relationship with America. They do. So the idea it's not so much that the rest of the world hates the theocracy of Iran.
Starting point is 00:53:12 They hate Iran funding the Houthis, the Yemenis, the Hamas, the terror attack on Israel. They hate them funding that. And they have killed American troops. They have kidnapped our troops and our soldiers. We can attribute up to 600 of our troop deaths over the last 20 years to the Iranians directly. I want regime change in Iran. I want regime change in Iran. I want regime change in Russia and China. I'm just not willing to advocate U.S. intervention for those things. I think it's fair to say that we look at many of the BRICS nations and they're bad and we
Starting point is 00:53:37 don't like them. But to what extent are people willing to sacrifice other people's blood and treasure to get something that they hope for. When we have all this crap going on here at home, the homeless people, the encampments, the violence of the left. I saw a video earlier today that was viral. It was on Instagram of this black guy. And he's like kind of leaned back talking about how the Democrats are morphing into America's Hamas. And I was like, wow, that's extreme. And so he goes through this list of things that Democrats are doing. I don't know if I disagree. Well, I couldn't either at the end of it.
Starting point is 00:54:10 I was like, oh, I see your point. But that's a real problem we need to address. We need to address that. And there's the other issue. I wrote about this in my book. What if we took the amount of money and energy we've spent in the Middle East and instead spent that in Mexico. My gosh, we're 30 some odd percent of their GDP as remittances and American businesses
Starting point is 00:54:31 in their country. They're literally the original 51st state. They're talking about taking back the territory that they lost in the Mexican war. I have such a problem with that. They had it for 27 years or something like that. The U.S. had it for like 150 or whatever, like shut up. Well, we bought it for 15 million and they gave the rest up because we won the war. That's a non-issue, but they talk about that. What I'm saying is why are we allowing
Starting point is 00:54:54 a narco state to operate to our South when it's so dangerous for us losing 125,000 people to fentanyl deaths and overdoses when we could easily stop that by manipulating China into stopping the fentanyl transport and manipulate the Mexicans by saying, look, if you don't stop this, if you don't seal up the border on your own dime, we'll shut every American plant in your company down and we'll shut them down for, oh, I don't know, 12 months because we don't need you. We have Americans who will do those jobs. I think Trump would not be as successful trying to play this straightforward, normal diplomatic approach. I think Trump's Yosemite Sam strategy,
Starting point is 00:55:32 where he's firing wildly into the air and you don't know what he's going to do. And I'm half kidding, but Trump's, when he's talking about, these news reports about nukes, Ben saying two weeks, I've read some assessments. Obviously, people who like Trump say he's playing 5D chess all the time. But one of the
Starting point is 00:55:50 assessments that I was reading was that Trump basically floats the idea intentionally that nukes are on the table without saying, yes, we're going to nuke you. But oh, I don't know. You know, that's what they're telling me, because he wants Iran to be concerned that Trump's a crazy enough guy to actually do it. It's never been done before. But also waiting two weeks puts Iran in a pressure cooker where they have to sustain rocket fire on Israel without knowing whether the U.S. will intervene. And Iran needs to hold back some of its missiles in the event the U.S. does launch an attack. In these next two weeks, they're going to be looking at their depleting stockpile saying, do we hold these back because the U.S. might come in?
Starting point is 00:56:36 If they say yes, then they're in a weakened stance against Israel. But they're already holding them back because they did like 175 and then 70 and then 25. They're already holding them back. It may be because Trump has said, which if they're holding them back, that means Israel's going to take less fire. They may be able to replenish interceptors. And then after two weeks, Trump goes, no, we ain't doing nothing. And then Iran's been sitting on a stockpile they haven't used. So he's basically put them in a bind where they can't make a move. Well, that makes sense. But again, the Yosemite Sam thing that people attribute to Trump, I love that because if you sit in a room, if you listen to the people who sit around with Trump all the time, they tell stories about how knowledgeable he is.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Like he knows all the troops drinks and the locations of all the countries around Iran. And he can draw a map on a regular blank sheet of paper and tell you where all the troops are. And he asks questions about why are these 500 guys right here? Well, why don't we get them out of there? Because they're right in the line of fire and we don't need them there anymore. That's the kind of commander in chief he is. So Yosemite Sam is the outer, like that's the presentation. But underneath, the man has a mind like a steel trap. He never forgets anything. And he has a strategy for what he's trying to get done. Who are our top generals that he works with? Oh, I don't know their names. I'm so, that's surprising.
Starting point is 00:57:46 It's kind of the first time in history or in American, normally we have like very famous American generals. So it's kind of strange that there aren't, like we had Colin Powell up until. Oh, I know. Now he was, yeah, he was very, very out front. I don't know what their names are. I should know this off the top of my head
Starting point is 00:57:59 and I don't know why I'm. Yeah, I don't know. But I do know that it was Wesley, what is Wesley Clark. He's a legislator out of Texas who had been sitting with President Trump. And he told that story at one of the holiday events. He was talking about, you know, sitting with President Trump and him drawing this map out and talking about troop strength. So I my my big deal is I just think President Trump has a plan for it. But I'm not. So people will say, oh, you're a cultist.
Starting point is 00:58:27 I'm not a cultist. But I do think the man has a record of results. He drove ISIS out of business during the first term. He got the Abraham Accords, as you mentioned. And he was very strong on recruitment. And then we were down 24,000 in one year in recruiting in the Army. They eliminated 12,000 positions to try to keep the numbers from being that bad. Now we've met our recruiting goals for the U.S. Navy.
Starting point is 00:58:52 We're in month six of the year, and we've got 58,000 new seamen coming in. So Trump's, his methodology works. We're now refilling our military ranks, but we're not there yet. We don't need a conflict that involves boots on the ground because we are low on troop strength and our military as it is now, according to Pete Hegseth, there's a lot of people who their body shape is like mine when it should have been like mine when I was on duty. That's not good. What did they say? The Navy filled its recruitment quota three months early? Yeah. Pete Hegseth, let's go. Yeah. He's been going out meeting with these guys and talking to them and bringinggseth. Let's go. Yeah. He's been going out meeting with these guys
Starting point is 00:59:25 and talking to them and bringing them in. It's amazing. I love it. But again, I would like to see if we have to do something. Let's do it three years from now
Starting point is 00:59:34 when everything's up to snuff and the Navy is back where it needs to be. We have a lot of deficiencies. I think the cartels are a bigger national security threat, much higher on the list than well before Iran.
Starting point is 00:59:45 And it's silly that Ukraine and Iran are such huge priorities for our government and our media apparatus when for four years Joe Biden had a porous open border with drug smugglers, cartels, coyotes, et cetera. And the human trafficking. The human trafficking. I mean, so people don't really understand what it means when we lose 350,000 minors who are unaccompanied minors from foreign countries. We lose 350,000 of them. I think so far they've only found 75,000. So they're working in chicken processing plants and they are sexual slaves. They're slaves in some of these leftist homes.
Starting point is 01:00:16 They're like living there full time and working for free. They're not going to school. They're not having a childhood. They're slaves here. But if we deport them, who's going to pick our crops? Well, I know because Jasmine Crockett said said ain't none of us doing any of that anymore you know we've come up okay so
Starting point is 01:00:32 oh my gosh I know I don't think she understood what she said she was saying it's our turn now well it's the Mexicans and the Northern Triangle countries turns now did you guys see Michael Malice in that video I think so yeah he's wearing the suit with the white wig and he says
Starting point is 01:00:46 the solution for reparations, there are what did he say, there's 41 million Canadians and 40 million black Americans. Well, there's 52 million black Americans, but yeah. So he's wrong, but he said we enslave Canada and give each black American one Canadian slave.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Do you understand how I don't want that? I don't want that? I don't want a Canadian to be responsible for it. My gosh, have you seen some of the Canadians they have? Those people are hardcore leftists. They're like our fire-breathing Californians. I'd have to be crazy to take somebody like that on. I agree with you totally, but it is the only option that's worse
Starting point is 01:01:21 than having the Canadians vote. But I want to hear you say that to Michael when he makes the joke, because that response was perfect. I don't want a Canadian. I don't want one. Purple-haired, obese leftist. Thank you. Somebody who's angry all the time and would continually call me an Uncle Tom and yell at me all day. I don't need that.
Starting point is 01:01:38 My kids are really easy. That would be like having a kid, like one of those rebellious kids that ends up in military camp or military school. That's horrible. Nobody wants a Canadian. I think the reason why they've deprioritized the Mexican cartels, which I agree seem to be a big problem, is because a lot of fentanyl is coming through Canada. More than has been realized. Most of it. I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Maybe most is the wrong word. A lot. Especially since the border's been shut down. Right. Chinese will run the precursor to the fentanyl development into Canada. Canadians will develop it, and then they'll sometimes, it goes back and forth between Canada and China,
Starting point is 01:02:09 and then across the porous border. So Canada becomes a territory. Let me float my ideas. Here are all my good ideas. Canada is a territory because we can't give them two senators, and we certainly couldn't give them the number of congressmen they would get
Starting point is 01:02:22 because they're actually, their population's bigger than California. They'd get like 50 or 60. They would get a lot. So we don't want that. population is bigger than California. They have more. They get like 50 or 60. They would get a lot. So we don't want that. They're a territory. They have no votes. They're just now on the dole, but we own them, so it's a good thing. We could do some more military installations up there
Starting point is 01:02:36 because we'll just basically go up top. And then with Greenland, we take that over because we have the money to buy them out. They have a deficit every year of $650 million. We just fill that up because that's nothing. That's not even a rounding error for us. A rounding error for us is $6 billion. So we give them $650 million a year. We own that. A few more military bases, some tourism, ship some regular Americans up there. And then Mexico, we basically eliminate the drug cartels and Claudia Scheinbaum becomes a governor.
Starting point is 01:03:05 And that's a whole state, Mexico. But we divide it basically some kind of division. Do they get senators? Mexico has states. I think so. It's big. It's the United Mexican States. There's like 40 states in Mexico.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I think the United States of America is Mexican America and it's all Northern America. We're all Americans. We're all United States. First thing we do. Totally wrong. First thing we do. I just wanted to say. Okay, all right, come on.
Starting point is 01:03:31 When we occupy Canada, we force them to mass produce poutine to deliver to the lower 50 states that we can enjoy. And we seize their strategic maple syrup reserve. Yep. That's a real thing. It sounds delicious,
Starting point is 01:03:46 but I don't think we can invade Canada. Do we not have enough maple syrup of our own? I will say, we can invade Canada, and we will not. It's not about enough. It's about... Owning that? It's that you always need more.
Starting point is 01:03:57 The problem with joking about invading Canada is it's like beating your little brother, and he'll grow up to destroy you, so you've got to take them seriously. Don't fuck with the Canadians. They're our best friends in the world. Bro. As someone from another country,
Starting point is 01:04:10 they're the most like us of anyone else. For agricultural reasons, there's no way that Canada grows up to crush the United States. It would just side with China. China would be like, we will give you full autonomy to be your own independent state
Starting point is 01:04:21 and we will fund your military. That would be them beating us back if it came to that. The Canadians don't really have a military anymore. So they would appeal to us or to the Chinese? Right. But we are their military. We are their big fat. What is that guy, Tosh? He has a joke about it. He says America is the big fat like hog belt of security or something like that for the Canadians. He basically says he's not, they don't have to worry about anything because America's here. And so therefore they are safe in perpetuity. They got scared during their last election.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Cause all this rhetoric about we're going to conquer Canada. It's like, ha ha, kind of funny, but they were terrified. A lot of terrified people that voted in. I talked to Conrad Black and you know what he told me the reason why they don't want to be a part of the United States because we have a history of
Starting point is 01:05:02 slavery and they do not. And I was like, you know, everybody's got something. Who said that? That was Conrad Black. He came on my show and talked about how the Canadians don't have a history of slavery, the assorted history of slavery that the Americans have.
Starting point is 01:05:13 And I said, yeah, but we went to war with ourselves and we actually came out of it a single country. We've already atoned for slavery. That's in our past. So you guys could still be a part of us. And he was like, we don't want to. Maybe the Democrats haven't. They haven't learned their lesson.
Starting point is 01:05:25 They haven't atoned for anything. They're still be a part of us. And he was like, we don't want to. Maybe the Democrats haven't. They haven't learned their lesson. They haven't atoned for anything. They're still trying to enslave everybody. This is why I was saying I like Juneteenth. Because a lot of conservatives are saying it's a fake holiday and all that stuff. And I understand that because it's not a cultural tradition of the United States. But I was like, this is a day we celebrate the Republicans' victory over the Democrats. Yeah. And the Democrats still keeping slaves after it was outlawed.
Starting point is 01:05:44 That's right. That's why they wanted to be the ones to make it a holiday because they want to try to own it. Just like every other thing that they do, they're doing something wrong to you. They want to fix it and act like they never did it and then later blame whatever they did wrong to you on the Republicans who then are sitting there with their sweater vests on going, I'm not sure if I've gotten all of the lint off of my sweater and taking the blame. And they want to raise money. That's it. Until Trump, who then says, when you try to place blame on him, I'm not taking your blame. And then the curse words come out and then you understand you're not. Well, they have a tantrum.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Like, so here's how I describe the past 10 years. The Democrats are flinging feces on the walls and screaming. And the Republicans are going, oh, geez, Democrats, oh, geez. Let me help you clean that up. Yeah, Trump comes in and he's like, and he whacks the kid in the back of the head. He's like, stop doing that. And then the kid starts screaming.
Starting point is 01:06:34 It's like a spoiled child. It's like no one's ever reprimanded before. So then they start saying like, I'm going to accuse you of beating me. I'm going to call DCFS. And he's like, I don't care, do it. Gets investigated, wins, comes back. And now they're crying in the corner because they're losing. Yeah. And they are losing. Their
Starting point is 01:06:49 polls are in the trash. They were very much like if we're all on a boat together, obsessed with who's in charge of the boat and what are the politics on the boat? Like Trump comes in like, bro, there's holes in the ship. We're going down. Let's fix this. And it's hard to hate that. Well, so so there's holes in the ship. It's going down. And the Democrats are like, this guy's going to stop us from stealing the fine china before we get out of here on the life rafts. Well, the Democrats actually have another problem, which is the poll numbers, the 21%, 17% most recently. I've been enjoying this a lot.
Starting point is 01:07:20 You know, I think Greg Gutfeld said, when your enemy is on the ground, don't let him get back up. I like them down there. But the issue that they have is they're trying to find a new identity. So the No Kings protest, did you notice? It's, you know, everybody's got on American flag gear. Everybody's waving an American flag. I mean, there were some Palestinian flags, there were some holdouts, some Mexican flags, but everybody was mostly in American flag gear. They were smiling, they were waving, they were being friendly. They didn't block the roads. And especially in St. Louis, they had four different locations.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Do you think that that's a phenomenon because of the age of the average person that was out there? They were elderly. It's true. But there were some young ones there, and some of them brought their grandkids. But the big deal is they wanted to adopt a Tea Party-esque. They even had some people with Gadsden flags out there. They're trying to adopt a Tea Party-esque new attitude because they want better poll numbers and it's not going to work. Let's jump to the story from ABC4. Man arrested in connection with deadly protest shooting in
Starting point is 01:08:14 SLC ordered to be released Friday. Attorneys for Arturo Gamboa, the man who was arrested following the deadly shooting at the No Kings protest, filed a petition claiming that he is being unlawfully detained and a judge ordered him to be released Friday. I will say it right now. Free Gamboa. And he's Antifa. And I don't care. He's a known leftist.
Starting point is 01:08:33 He was wearing all black. He was in black block, armed with a rifle at this protest. And you know what? I may not like the guy's ideology or whatever, but the video evidence we've seen shows him walking peacefully and legally down the street when organizers, individuals who were working with the event and green vest liberals pulled out pistols and open fire on him for no reason. And if indiscriminately firing towards people and killed a random guy and the cops arrested this dude. I think it's a cover-up. They're trying to find a reason why this guy's at fault simply because he was open carrying a rifle. I say free Gamboa, and based on the evidence I've seen so far,
Starting point is 01:09:15 I could be wrong, but I'll say this. Based on what we know, drop the charges until we get real evidence that he actually did something wrong. Apparently the witnesses lied and said that he raised did something wrong. Apparently, the witnesses lied and said that he raised the rifle at the crowd, and that's why the peacekeepers fired at him. However, upon further review of the evidence, even CNN reported, actually, he was walking down the street with the rifle down, and when they started shooting at him, he grabbed the rifle and started running, but he wasn't waving it at people.
Starting point is 01:09:48 He was just grabbing it to run away from the people shooting at him. So apparently he's going to be released on Friday. They say the SLC district attorney's office wrote an order to release Gamboa and present it to the judge who signed it. On Friday, deputy district attorney Joshua N. Graves told the court the state had been able to review preliminary evidence and they would not be able to make an informed decision as to whether charges against Mr. Gamboa will be filed or declined before his scheduled date of June 23rd. I think that's the right thing. I think the organizers of the 50501 movement in Utah need to be held accountable for some reason, in some capacity, that they would bring people down, refuse to work with police. This is how far this goes. It's the 5501 movement. They organized the
Starting point is 01:10:33 event. They had armed men working for them because they didn't want to work with cops. So they had unsanctioned armed dudes who opened fire. There's got to be some kind of civil penalty for uh or liability for what they did and i believe the men who opened fire need to be held responsible for the bullets they launched and the person they killed the the family of the person that died definitely has a a wrongful death suit that they could you know they could bring i think gamboa needs to sue him too because because they shot him. He got grazed. Yeah, I mean, every, well, any gun owner that goes to any kind of like gun safety classes or anything,
Starting point is 01:11:10 they know that like you're responsible for every bullet that comes out of your gun. That's right. That's why you have trigger discipline. Check this out. Check this out. Quote, this is, I believe his attorney, Greg Skortas, quote,
Starting point is 01:11:21 all of the evidence confirms that he was lawfully and openly carrying an unloaded firearm on a public road. He never brandished it, never fired it, never pointed it in the direction of anyone. He was shot in the back by a person who needlessly shot two innocent men, killing one. The investigation will continue to be carried out by the Salt Lake City Police Department. The DA's office will continue to review as additional evidence is presented to us, the DA said. If he was a Republican, he'd already be under the jail. So, you know, he shot a man based on what he needs to be tried by and the preponderance of
Starting point is 01:11:58 the evidence, jury of his peers. Could you imagine if a Trump supporter pulled a weapon out and shot and killed an Antifa guy at a protest like this. The headlines the left would run. New York Times would say MAGA gets dark, murders innocent left-wing activists. MAGA murders a choir boy eating a donut. Come on. You could make him a wonderful person. The way that Trump is working with the British and the Israelis right now makes me wonder if the media is going to back off him and let him and stop harassing him and maga and all this crap the way he's working with the agenda of the liberal
Starting point is 01:12:29 economic order trump to what does that have to do with i feel like because they use the media to demonize him and his followers because they were afraid he was going to seize control and give it back to the americans confused that the media is demonizing the shooter or the guy trump and his followers the magnet you guys are saying if a maga guy had shot a guy, the outbreak that it would occur. I think he's made too many leaps at once. That's dying. That fervor of hatred. So rapidly.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Well, what I'm saying is the fervor of hatred in the media against MAGA seems to be dissipating as Trump is acquiescing more towards the goals of the people that are controlling that media. Which is? Conquering the Middle East. I don't know that I agree with that. I think it's more so just that we're winning the culture war that's for sure happening the culture war is definitely
Starting point is 01:13:09 in a much better place than it was when he was in office the first time and it's their fault it's the Bud Light effect a Democratic approval according to the latest poll I think it was Quinnipiac 21%
Starting point is 01:13:23 Republican was like 36 or something, which is like, okay, it's not good. And it was funny because I posted this and someone was like, ha ha, Tim Pool's argument is that what? Republicans are only a little less bad. And I'm like, quite literally, yes. That's it.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Yeah, but the shift is pretty phenomenal. The shift, the number is not that large, but the shift from disapproval for Trump to approval for Trump is something like a 42 point swing compared to his first term. So it doesn't look that great when you say, you know, approve, disapprove, just based on that, Trump, Democrats. But if you're looking at items like immigration, the foreign policy, the economy, even the tariffs where they said we'd all be running around with, we'd be naked because no T-shirts from China. We're all going to be outside licking the ground, eating grass because no food. And here we all are. So I got Amazon packages came this morning.
Starting point is 01:14:16 I saw them. They sent me a picture of my umbrella for the pool arrived this morning at like 5 a.m. I'm telling you, nothing has changed. And the tariff deals are going to net us a lot of money at the Treasury, where it matters, because they're sucking us dry with the taxes. But we are giving that money away in trade imbalances to foreign countries, and we're not going to be doing that anymore. So our balance sheet is going to look a lot different. And that matters to Americans because I, for one, I'm tired of being taxed like I've stole something. I'm tired of paying as much in taxes as I am. I want more cuts. The TCJ to me didn't go far enough. I was happy for what I got, but it needs to go further. So, you know, I get punished for actually busting my buns and working two jobs and trying to get ahead. And they're taking more and
Starting point is 01:14:59 more and more. And the justification is, well, you know, progressive tax. I'm sick of that crap. And most Americans are sick of it. It's not just me. I'm not, you know, an tax. I'm sick of that crap. And most Americans are sick of it. It's not just me. I'm not, you know, an outlier. What was the TCJ you mentioned? Oh, Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, TCJA. And it lowered taxes. I didn't follow.
Starting point is 01:15:13 What was it? It lowered taxes in the first term and brought about the economic boom that helped us save. Like we literally survived COVID and the economic downturn because we were so strong coming out of the passage of the TCJA. So you hear people talk about make Trump tax cuts permanent. Yeah. Those are the ones we need. He mentioned ending income tax at some point. Multiple times it's come out of his mouth
Starting point is 01:15:37 that he wants to end income tax. I don't know if it's possible. It's so exciting. I know. You almost feel like you're going to faint when he says it. I'm like, what? Where are the Republicans? They should all be around him jumping up and down like Elon Musk.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Yes, we want to end the income tax. And even if he said, I'm going to reduce income tax by 50% across the board, I'd still jump for joy with the same excitement. Any cuts. Eliminate the top bracket. Distribute everything down from there. So the top bracket goes away and then everybody goes down from there. That'd be a great start.
Starting point is 01:16:06 I kind of... I have all kinds of ideas. I pulled focus away from this shooting at this rally. If you guys want to keep... If there's more to say about it, I'm kind of just learning about it
Starting point is 01:16:15 as we're talking about it. This story is a cover-up as far as I'm concerned. For what? The organizing team pulled out guns, fired indiscriminately to a crowd of people,
Starting point is 01:16:24 and murdered an innocent man. And the cops arrested a random guy for open carrying. So civil charges for the people that started the event and then criminal charges. Civil penalty in some cases. So here's the issue. They don't want to work with police because they hate cops. So they say instead, let's get some guys with guns. Now that's fine in most circumstances if your guys are trained and reasonable.
Starting point is 01:16:44 But you are responsible for whatever comes out of the front of your gun. So if you bring guys in because you don't want to work with cops and they shoot and murder an innocent guy, I say you should have some civil liability in that regard. And to the point of Phil, I think the family could sue them for that. As for criminal penalties, you shoot a guy, you get in trouble for it. They had no reason. They had no reasonable fear of harm. There was no threat. I will never stand by and simply have some liberal guy claim because a dude was carrying a rifle, he felt threatened, so he shot and murdered somebody. Which is total BS.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Right. This is America. You're supposed to be able to carry a gun out in public and people don't flinch. He shot. And so he should, first of all, the person who did the shooting should be arrested and held without bail because he's a wild card. He's just out shooting people just because he doesn't like what they're holding in their hand. And then the other part is yet another death at a leftist protest. I mean, when are we going to put a stop to that? I think chaos right now. It would be chaos if that was a cop.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Sorry. They don't want the narrative to be that leftists are violent and kill. They want it always to be that the right is more violent, and that's why they buried this story. And I think conservatives are too often playing catch-up with the narrative of the left. So this story went under the radar. It is very often the liberals that, I mean, this is a fact, the New York Times, CNN, MSNBC are setting the news cycle most of the time, Washington Post. It started to change. It is shifting. And we need to get away from that, I don't know, era, I guess. It's an interesting phenomenon
Starting point is 01:18:26 because I think about both the Trump kind of taking control of declaring war or not and people like, why are people not up in arms about Congress not having control of the situation and deciding if we're going to be attacking Iran? I see that of like, talk about controlling the narrative.
Starting point is 01:18:40 That's what we should, and omnibus bills, like the narrative of how dangerous an omnibus bill with Matt Gaetz coming on our live show in Miami and drilling that, how important that is to not have omnibus bills. And then all of a sudden we got the big, beautiful bill and it's an omnibus bill. And people are like, what was what I eat for dinner yesterday again? Like set the narrative. When you ask congressional members about that, they're talking about.
Starting point is 01:19:03 So we have to have reconciliation package this time because our majority is so slim. We don't have enough to go through the traditional regular budgetary order process. We don't have the votes. So we need the wind to get through the midterms and hopefully increase our share of votes in Congress and in the Senate. But then again, with gerrymandering, how many more congressional votes can we actually take? We can take a few, but a major majority. And then that takes us back to the immigration issue. The reason that, okay, gerrymandering, it's bad. We'll acknowledge that. But we also have 3.8 congressional seats that can be directly attributed to illegal aliens in the country counted for apportionment. They're not supposed to be counted because they are not citizens. So that Supreme Court ruling has given us an inflated congressional body that is skewed
Starting point is 01:19:51 that doesn't actually reflect the populace of the United States. So we have some real problems. When you say President Trump is coming in on the second term and he's trying to do, he's got all these agenda items. That's why he spent the four years he was out of office working and trying to set up a system where he could hit the ground running because he only has four years. And then we absolutely must elect a Republican for eight more years after that, because this is a cleanup job of the size that, I mean, I just don't see how it gets done.
Starting point is 01:20:18 And especially with the Congress we have, where they're barely, like they're barely rowing. They're not getting anything done. They should have had at least three pieces of solid legislation passed out of the House under consideration in the Senate, even if it's DOA because we can't get the 10 votes. But why can't we get the 10 votes?
Starting point is 01:20:33 Why can't we get 10 Democrat senators in states where they actually have a chance of losing their seat to come alongside us and vote for things that make sense, like immigration reform and the tariffs or the rescissions packages, which admittedly, those have at least we passed one, but it was only for nine point four billion. To me, that's nothing. Elon Musk has saved one hundred and seventy five billion.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Is it because they're afraid of getting ostracized from the party? Who, the Democrats? Yeah, the people that won't be like vote for what makes sense. Is it because party politics? We have to force them to do what we want. We have to force at least 10 of them. Like, I just don't believe we can't do it. That's the point of the omnibus. If Trump deports all the illegal immigrants, and then five years from now, they're on the census, Democrats lose upwards of, there will be a 25 seat swing in favor of Republicans. So what that really means is they'll lose about 10 seats, and they'll get reapportioned for Republicans up 10 seats.
Starting point is 01:21:29 And then they will end up with like a 23 to 25-seat majority. And then it's going to get wild because the debates will only be between the Freedom Caucus and the neocons. Well, I mean, we have to have a problem, don't we? Right. I'd rather have that one. Yeah. You said if he deports them all, one million, the estimate is between 750,000 and a million of them have self-deported using the old CBP One app that is not a CBP Home app. Yeah, let's go.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Need more of that. And of course, there's a tiny bit of deportations he's done because every time you turn around, there's some Democrat Article Three judge telling him he can't do this and he can't do that, which needs to be fixed by the Supreme Court or our do-nothing Congress, because Article III judges are actually chosen and allocated by the legislative branch. So who could defund those courts? Congress. Who controls the House? We do. I don't care if it's only by one vote. We control it. All we would have to do is defund one judge and the rest of them would recede back into their holes. But they're not doing it. Again, where are they? Let's jump to this story from the Star Tribune's jump to the story from the
Starting point is 01:22:25 Star Tribune. Letter to the FBI from shooting suspect made wild claims about Klobuchar and Waltz. Sources say, slow down. That headline's terrible, Star Tribune. What's the story? How about this? Vance Bolter, accused assassin, the man who they say went to the homes of these Democrats and killed them, reportedly claimed Tim Walz told him to do it. Now there's a headline. I wonder why they didn't go with it. Star Tribune says in a rambling conspiratorial letter, conspiratorial letter addressed to the FBI,
Starting point is 01:22:54 alleged assassin Vance Bolter claimed Governor Tim Walz instructed him to kill U.S. Senator Amy Klobuchar so that Walz could run for the U.S. Senate, according to two people familiar with the contents of the letter. The letter is the clearest evidence yet of Bolter's mindset after the targeted violence against Minnesota politicians last week. It is incoherent, one and a half pages long, confusing and hard to read, according to two people familiar with the letter's contents. It includes Bolter alleging he had been trained by the U.S. military off the books and that Waltz, who is not running for Senate, had asked him to kill Klobuchar and others. When is the Senate race? I mean, Klobuchar? Yeah, let me pull it up. Is that going to be 2028? Yes. I believe 2028. So it's weird that they said who's not running because we're three years out,
Starting point is 01:23:45 and he certainly could if he wanted to. I don't know why they would say that. And it is fascinating that he claims he was trained secretly by the military. Here's a question. For what reason did they decide to write this from the presupposition that he was incoherent and insane instead of literally just reporting on, he wrote a letter that made these claims. It is strange to me when news outlets inject opinions into what is supposed to be a news story and use a weird headline that doesn't really convey the subject of the story. Well, one reason that they don't just give you the neutral data is because tone.
Starting point is 01:24:26 There's no tone. So if you heard this guy on video saying, and he was like, I swear, they were telling me to. And then you know right away he's crazy because you hear his tone. But if you just read the words that came out of his mouth in a published article, you might just believe it's not. Here's a question for you, Ian. If someone said that in a court, would the immediate assumption of the court be that his tone proves him crazy? No, I don't think so. Would they say the subject of the claims is what matters, the credibility of the witness is for you to decide?
Starting point is 01:24:58 Yeah, they would. So this is my point. Have there been circumstances where people have been MKUltra'd? That's why we have the phrase MKUltra, because we know that it's happened. Right now, I think the probability that this guy is of sound mind is very low. Yeah. But I don't know why, I would not call it appropriate for a news outlet to write their story, doing everything they can to make you come to a conclusion about the mental state of the man before they convey the facts, which is what the news should be doing. They should literally just say, Vance Bolter, alleged assassin, accused and arrested, wrote a letter claiming Tim Waltz instructed him to assassinate. Horrible PR for Tim Waltz, but I think, I mean. But if it's true, it's true.
Starting point is 01:25:48 And it is not the job of a news organization to inject loaded language like the word rambling and conspiratorial. Those are opinions, not facts. I'm going to play, this is totally devil's advocate because I don't really care that much about it. And put op-ed on the top of the article.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Put op-ed. If they said like, if a crazy guy said something about you or somebody we know. You'd have to move it off the front page. No, it wouldn't make the news. Hold on. That's not true. Because when the Daily Beast lied and claimed that I'd been accused of stealing a cat. Who had the cat, Ian? Who had the cat?
Starting point is 01:26:20 I think I had the cat. You had the cat. I was taking very good care of the cat. Betsy's a wonderful woman. I love her. And they wrote, and they wrote, and they wrote,
Starting point is 01:26:27 I got her back to her owner. And they wrote, Tim Pool accused of stealing cat. They could have written, police deny Tim Pool had cat after wild accusation. They could have done that. Instead,
Starting point is 01:26:37 this is the game we get with the corporate press. They will inject opinion into a story they want you to believe to be false and they will remove all opinion on stories that are absurd and ridiculous if they can smear their political opponents. But is it true?
Starting point is 01:26:52 That's what you're saying? This is not an example you, they wrote a news story about you stealing a cat? Yes. So here's what happened. There was somebody I worked with. She left her cat in the care of Ian. I texted her and said, come get your cat. She said, no. I said, I don't know, man, Ian, figure it out. She then, I did. She then made a video saying my cat's been stolen or whatever
Starting point is 01:27:14 and called the police. The police called me and says, do you have a cat? And I say, no. And they were like, well, we got a call from someone saying you have a cat. And I was like, uh, there's a man who works for me who has that cat in question. I can put you in contact with him. And he was like, look, I have no idea what's going on. Can we arrange something? And then we worked out we'll send the cat to a shelter. They can come get it.
Starting point is 01:27:34 And then the police told the Daily Beast Tim Poole did not have possession of the cat. Ian Crossland was in possession of the cat. It was delivered to a shelter where it was picked up and unharmed. And the Daily Beast still wrote the headline, Tim Poole possession of the cat. It was delivered to a shelter where it was picked up and unharmed. And the Daily Beast still wrote the headline, Tim Pool accused of stealing cat. Wait, the Daily Beast is the one that wrote that the little boy in the face paint at the Kansas City game. I think so. He was a white supremacist. Maybe not. Maybe not. That wasn't the Daily Beast. It might've been. I don't remember. But then Twitter, when it was still Twitter at the time, put that on its trending tab for two weeks.
Starting point is 01:28:06 It was just like, what the f*** is going on? Tim pulled a cat thing. I love that cat. I want to keep her for myself, I'll be honest. Not really. I wanted to get her back to her proper place. What a nice cat. She was beautiful. Yeah, she would jump on my lap. She'd walk up and look at you, or at me, and I'd be like... And then she'd jump on my lap
Starting point is 01:28:22 and curl into a ball. We had it good. It was all good. She was climbing in the walls. Yeah, Betsy and Bucko would terrorize her. They were happier once she went back home, I know for sure. So, hey, Daily Beast, I don't have a lot of love for them. Yeah, I don't have a lot of love for them. They do it wrong, I feel like.
Starting point is 01:28:38 If they're going to do stuff like that and misrepresent. Let's just say it again. The Star Tribune has written an article that they are purporting to be fact, but the phrase rambling and conspiratorial are opinion statements. Now, what they're doing is they're attributing it to the FBI. Address to the FBI, okay, people with direct knowledge say it's rambling and conspiratorial. This could mean a journalist. People who saw it. They play these dirty games, okay?
Starting point is 01:29:04 Now, I don't think there's a very high probability this guy was actually instructed by Tim Walz to do anything because extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I'm only pissed off because I'm sick of news outlets that write opinion pieces masquerading as fact.
Starting point is 01:29:18 That way, when people Google search it, they are told to come to a conclusion before they've even read any of the details. This is how they smear the right. This is how they smear the right. This is how they smear Trump. It's bullcrap for them to put those descriptors in there and act as if they basically are. It's already pre-assumed fact that those descriptors of the man and his ramblings, that those are accurate. But they do that all the time.
Starting point is 01:29:41 And what you're talking about is like you go to somebody who, you know, kicks puppies for a living and you're like, you know, kicking puppies is wrong. Well, he's getting paid to kick puppies. He's not even going to hear it. That's what these people are like. They're paid to propagandize. I think Klobuchar is not even up for reelection until 2030. Right. She just was elected again.
Starting point is 01:29:57 Right. Yeah. So that's why it's like who's not even running for Senate. Well, it's five years away from that election. Do you see how they're doing this? When they write Tim Waltz, quote, comma, who is not running for the Senate? That is a weasel phrase. Okay. If it were true that he wanted Klobuchar out of the picture to run in 2030, why would you include he wasn't running? The argument would be that he's trying to run five years from now. They are loading this so that you make—this is what they do when Trump says something.
Starting point is 01:30:27 It'll be like, you know, Trump calls neo-Nazis fine people or whatever. They will write a story which says Trump, comma, who called neo-Nazis fine people, comma, says that a trade deal with China will be beneficial. And you're like, wait, why did they include that? That's what they've been doing for years. I mean, it's been like 15 years now. Yep. Since little kids had the opportunity to write blogs on the internet, basically.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Well, I mean, it might have come from blogging. It's possible that the style of journalism, we'll call it, has changed so much in the 15 years because there was a time where blogs were all the rage and stuff, and so that might have been the deal.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Oh, here's another thing, too. Here's the Daily Beast story. YouTube star Tim Pool's news site collapses amid allegations he took a cat hostage, which is like, ah. The headline is fake in every capacity because CNR still operates. Wow. In fact, Tales from the... The language is unbelievable that you took a cat hostage. It makes you picture him, like, with a gun, pointing a gun, holding the cat,
Starting point is 01:31:40 like, clinging it to his chest kind of energy. That's exactly what happened. It's bizarre. Well, that's Will Summer for you. He just makes stuff up. Will Summer. Oh, that was Will Summer. And hold on. And what is it? What kind of cat is this?
Starting point is 01:31:51 Not the cat that we, not Betsy. Not Betsy. Not my love. Not your love, Bet. Will contacted me. I didn't give him anything on this. I didn't know what to say. I mean, I was just getting the cat back to the owner.
Starting point is 01:32:01 That's all I cared about. Taking good care of her. It was so weird that they did this. It's like. Slow news day. And two days after my birthday. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Unacceptable.
Starting point is 01:32:10 And they conflated it with the scanner. They cannot allow, we can no longer allow these kinds of attacks near your birthday. There has to be some kind of civilization here. We have to, we can't just allow everything to go down to the toilet. So like if a crazy guy says,
Starting point is 01:32:23 a dude told me to go, that wouldn't make the news. But if then it's a governor and the guy actually tried an assassination attempt. This guy worked for Tim Waltz. He worked for him. Also, this guy was appointed by Tim Waltz to the board of governors or something like that. Oh. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:39 That's why I'm like. You didn't know that? No. When they're loading the language to make it seem like it's impossible. And it's like, but this guy was friends with Tim Walz. I've read at least three or four articles about the guy. I've not seen that fact. Not yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:50 There's still an active argument going on on the internet as to who this boy belongs to. Like, does he belong to the right, or does he belong to the left? Here you go. Oh, they love that. What are Vance Luther Bolter's politics? Alleged Minnesota assassin was appointed by Tim Walz, voted for Trump. That's what they say.
Starting point is 01:33:06 How do they know he voted for Trump? Well, let me just pull up the part where he was appointed by Tim Walz because that matters. His roommate threw him right under the bus. Right. His roommate said that. Which I don't know why he has a roommate. He's married and has kids. I don't know why he has a roommate. He's married and has kids. I don't believe the roommate. So two notices of appointment for Bolter to the governor's workforce development board were obtained by KTTC.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Although the exact motivations for his crimes are unclear. Okay. So he was appointed by Waltz to the governor's workforce board and then claimed that Waltz told him to kill these people. Okay. Maybe we should look into that. Yeah. So his, his friend said that he voted for him.
Starting point is 01:33:47 He was reappointed to the board by Waltz in December of 2019 as a business member for a term that expired in 2023. Yeah. Oh, so he, he had worked for Waltz. Maybe he was, he has issues,
Starting point is 01:33:59 anger with Waltz or something after having worked with him. I don't believe this guy. I mean, it's going to, like you said, yeah. Extraordinary evidence. If that's, you want to back that statement up. I don't believe this guy. I mean, it's going to, like you said, extraordinary evidence if you want to back that statement up. I'm going to need to see, like, he voted for Trump. In addition to his I Voted sticker,
Starting point is 01:34:13 he was also wearing, like, a Trump T-shirt that he had to turn inside out when he was in the poll because it would numb him. Something serious. Apparently he had some literature from the No Kings. No, no, it's just white pieces of paper with No Kings written on it. Oh, my bad. I can show you the image. It's just this.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Now, these are flyers. So, some people tried making the argument because they didn't show the images. They said, he had flyers for No Kings. Do you think he was going to attack them? Then you actually look and you're like, oh, no, no, no, no. Those were signs handmade likely by him for no kings, indicating that he intended to spread
Starting point is 01:34:49 the message. If it was a flyer with a date and location, you could make the argument he was planning on targeting it. This just looks like he agreed with him. Yeah. I didn't get the beginning. I missed the top of the story. I wasn't here when you guys discussed it before.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Did he actually assassinate someone or was he – Yes, two people. One person still in critical condition. He went to – he dressed as a cop, put on a latex mask, had a fake cop car with the lights, red and blue lights, knocked on the door when they opened. He went bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Pulled him over and knocked him there? No, he pulled up to their house. Pulled up to their – wow. wearing a mask with a fake police uniform, knocked on the door. It was a former Democrat and his wife and a former Democrat and her husband, a current Democrat and her husband. No, it was a former Democrat.
Starting point is 01:35:32 The woman was former, right? It was a former Democrat and her husband and a current Democrat and his wife. And he knocked on the door, they opened it and he started blasting. This is, it makes me think, I just, a friend of mine told me, like if the cops come to your house
Starting point is 01:35:44 and they knock and they want to talk to you, like, are they really cops? You got to find that out. Right. So they had a mask on. So, I mean, that was one one. It was it was it was a fake person. It was a latex mask that looked like a person. Oh, I thought. OK, well, yeah. So I think I have a picture. Here you go. Here's the issue with with this whole thing. If he was a Republican, why would he shoot her? The legislator he shot and killed just crossed over and voted with the Republicans in the state legislature there to stop giving medical benefits to illegal aliens. Yes. She crossed over.
Starting point is 01:36:19 So she crossed over and voted with the Republicans. So why would a MAGA supporter, a Trump supporter shoot someone who was actually implementing the Trump agenda at the state level? He wouldn't. The argument was that it was a Democrat being like you're a traitor. You've betrayed us. Well, I believe he's a Democrat. I don't believe he's a Republican. The argument was
Starting point is 01:36:38 that he's actually a Democrat appointed by Waltz. Yeah. And then I believe that targeted these people because they crossed the line and they were traitors to the party. But he said they voted for Trump, or that he voted for Trump. Yeah, a guy with family and kids had a best friend roommate. Nobody believes that. I don't believe it.
Starting point is 01:36:52 It's possible that this guy, it's not even, well, it's probably politically motivated in some fashion, him working with Waltz and targeting political. But it might not be like right and left energy here. It might just be like a psychopath, broken psychopath by the system, lashed out at people he knew. Or he was told to do it by Waltz. We're going to go to your chats, my friend. So smash the like button. Share the show with literally everyone you know.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Even your AI chat girlfriend. See what she has to say. And we're going to read what you guys have to say. So let's get those rumble rants and super chats. What do we got here? Shane H. Wilder is always number one. He says, Pakistan nominating Donald Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize for mediating peace with them in India was not on my 2025 bingo card. We know he won't get it, but I never expected him to even be nominated.
Starting point is 01:37:38 He's been nominated several times, actually. We almost led with that. It's interesting. And then we didn't even talk about it. Yeah. Arsena says, even talk about it. Yeah. Arsena says, Things I've learned this week. DJT can trust everyone around him
Starting point is 01:37:50 and the deep state has disappeared. I'm anti-Semitic for questioning our involvement with Israeli affairs. Must be my Muslim heritage. My favorite is I tweeted, I'm very proud of myself, by the way. I tweeted, Ask not what your country can do for you,
Starting point is 01:38:03 but what your country can do for Israel. And I just thought, it's a joke. It's a joke because of, you know, the way everyone acts about Israel. And it's funny because I think more than anything, this tweet reveals foreign actors and bots. There are pro-Israel people that are responding saying, okay, I got to admit that's actually funny. There are anti-Israel people putting, just saying, LOL, okay, you got me. Because it's not, it doesn't really say anything other than it makes fun of the circumstance. But then there are people of both sides. I'm being called a Zionist for having posted it,
Starting point is 01:38:37 which is clearly a joke, which is weird. And I'm being called an anti-Semite for posting it. And I think those people are not Americans. And what I think happens is anybody who is American, who knows history and hears that gets it. I'm satirizing JFK's statement about your country and you. But imagine if you were from Pakistan and you saw what I tweeted, click translate. And all you saw was me saying, your country shouldn't serve you. Your country should serve the benefits of Israel.
Starting point is 01:39:06 You'd be like, this guy's a Zionist. So if it's going through a language filter or you don't know our history, you don't get the context. Or if you're a bot. But I got to be honest, even AI understands that's a play on JFK. Did Candace Owens retweet you? Yeah, and she put a bunch of laughing emojis. Oh, okay. And it's not...
Starting point is 01:39:26 It's literally just a joke. It's an inside joke, but it's inside a big bubble. Yeah. Not everybody's in that bubble. Big, big, big, big, big bubble. If you're pro-Israel, you should laugh about it if you're anti... The joke was just the circumstances of how everyone treats... Well, you followed up with a post on Twitter that said that maybe
Starting point is 01:39:42 we should have a nationality filter, so you can tell if... Oh, I tweeted that before that maybe we should have like a nationality filter. I've said that before. Oh, interesting. That's a good idea. What about, so in your opinion, the term Zionist is just, you just believe that Israel has the right to have their own country, correct? Or are you taking Zionist further than that where you literally believe that everything should be to their favor? I'm not a Zionist. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:40:03 They're calling me Zionist for saying, like, I don't care about Israel. No, I understand what they're saying about you, but I'm saying, just generally speaking, the term Zionist, some people don't actually have the same definition. I thought Zionist meant you believe that Israel has a right to a country, that they have a right to exist in the Middle East. I believe that, so that makes me a Zionist by a lot of people's ideas. And it's more than that.
Starting point is 01:40:27 To a lot of these people, simply acknowledging the existence itself, whether you like it or not, is Zionism. Yeah, that's bullcrap. So I actually had someone ask me this because they called me a Zionist. And I said, I am not a Zionist. I literally don't care
Starting point is 01:40:42 and don't think we should fund Israel. And they said, but you act as though Israel is a country. And I was like, it is. And they're like, you're a Zionist. I literally don't care and don't think we should fund Israel. And they said, but you act as though Israel is a country. And I was like, it is. And they're like, you're a Zionist. Yeah. Because the formation of the modern day Israel is different than the kingdom of Israel in the Bible and the love of Israel in the Bible. The argument is. The Bible of Jacob and things like that.
Starting point is 01:40:58 The argument is there are countries where they don't put Israel on their maps. Oh, there are. And if you're flying over the Middle East, depending on what airline you're on, it says Palestine. Right. And so the people from those countries, they'll be like, you actually think there's some country called Israel? You're a Zionist.
Starting point is 01:41:12 And you're like, well, it's clearly there. It has a parliament. It has judges. It has a prime minister. It has weapons. Yeah. And embassies. So like, say whatever you want, I guess.
Starting point is 01:41:20 And you know what they did? They actually filled out all the paperwork and stuff so they could be a country, unlike the Hamas charter where they didn't do the... There were a few prerequisite steps. All they had to do was those last few steps and Gaza could have been a country, but since they never did that, Israel is going to take it back over and manage
Starting point is 01:41:35 it and yeah. You could liken it to the CCP. Some people don't recognize it as the legitimate government. You actually think this is CCP? Yeah, exactly. Am I a Zionist for the Communist Party? You is CCP? Yeah, exactly. Am I a Zionist for the Communist Party? You're a Zomunist. Am I a Zomunist? Zomunist. You just nailed it, baby.
Starting point is 01:41:52 Let's grab this from Arsonist. Arsonist says, I'm no longer a Republican. I now identify as a Popcon, populist conservative. Okay. I'm concerned, as we were talking about all these global potential conflicts kicking off, well, World War, things like that, if Trump were just removed from the situation,
Starting point is 01:42:11 I'm always with contingencies often, and what would happen with this country. Do you know what Hillary Clinton would have done? Bombed it into oblivion. I mean, the timeline was pushed back because of Trump's first term. Look at the military. Sorry, not the military, but look at the operations in Ukraine under Obama with USAID, with Newland. The U.S. was very interested in the overthrow of the Yanukovych government. Russia annexes Crimea.
Starting point is 01:42:43 Things are building up. Trump wins. Ukraine stops. Why? Because Trump was like, I don't care. We are not involved in whatever that is. I don shooting. Trump gets elected. I went back to Ukraine in 2017 and did some field report. And the locals there said, no, no, there's no more civil war. There's only a few separatists in the eastern region, but we don't really consider that a big deal anymore. And then Biden gets in and what happens? Russia invades. Never would have happened if Trump remained in office. Hillary Clinton, during the debate with Trump, was asked about a no-fly zone over Syria. She was warned by our generals, if the U.S. were to implement a no-fly zone over Syria, it would be a declaration of war with Russia. And she said she did not care. That she wanted it. The reason is that Russia has a naval base in Tartus. So we basically, by issuing a no-fly zone, we are literally saying, Russia, we're going to shoot your planes down. And Russia's going to be like, try me. And she was like, I don't care. So with the Syria situation,
Starting point is 01:43:58 if Hillary Clinton had won in 2016, the Ukraine war would have kicked off right away, and we would have been embroiled in a massive conflict, more so in Syria, we would have, the Ukraine war would have kicked off right away. And we would have been embroiled in a massive conflict, more so in Syria than we were. Trump slowed it all down. There's a type of hubris that envelops these commanders sometimes when they win a lot in a row. This happened to the Nazis after they took Poland with like no resistance. They took France. They were all surprised at how easy it was. They were shocked. And then they started to believe their own bullshit. And I think Hillary Clinton also thinks
Starting point is 01:44:29 indestructible American military, like this nonsense has been fed through her system. She's like the car guy in Speed Racer and he's like the insupportable might of money. He's trying to convince Speed Racer to take the contract and he won't take it. And he's like giving him this big long speech about the history of racing and all that stuff. And basically none of the races were really won. And that's what Hillary Clinton reminds me of.
Starting point is 01:44:56 She's a megalomaniac and someone crazy who never should have been as close as she was to the presidency. She never should have been a senator. I mean, she never should have been Secretary of State. But the big deal with that is, it was that, and then it was also when President Trump came into office, like Tim said, you have President Trump literally telling Putin to his face, if you move on Crimea, I'll
Starting point is 01:45:16 bomb Moscow over ice cream. Right? It's the same thing to President Xi. If you don't stop this fentanyl from coming over the southern border, you know, I'm... There's a phone call with Trump where he's like, I told them that if he moved on Ukraine or if China moved on Taiwan, I would nuke Beijing and Moscow. And he goes, I don't know if they believed me, maybe a little bit, 5 percent, but it was enough. Right. Well, and but that's that's what we need in a commander in chief.
Starting point is 01:45:43 You don't want someone who's asleep or people don't think he's actually there. You want someone who they're not sure what he's going to do. Yeah, it's the Yosemite Sam thing. It's like Trump sits down with Putin and they're talking and he's like, here's what we want to do. And Trump goes, yeah, that's nice. If you invade Ukraine, I'm going to nuke Moscow. And Putin's like, what? Yeah, the other day you were talking about the underground tunnels.
Starting point is 01:46:02 On the show the other day you were talking about the underground tunnels that they don't know if Trump's serious or not. On the show the other day, you were talking about the underground tunnels that they've built in Ukraine. I've been to Russia. The subways. And I've seen the subways underneath the ground, and they are gorgeous. All kinds of tile up on the ceiling. Like, we would put these kinds of tiles in a cathedral. They have them in their underground tunnels in Russia. Deep underground.
Starting point is 01:46:17 Deep, deep underground. Yeah. Let's grab some. We got two I'm going to read back to back. Mitho says, about precision, Tim. We have in the past shot down a helicopter with a laser-guided bomb. I repeat, shot down. We are more than precise enough
Starting point is 01:46:28 to hit the same spot twice. And Drunken Gringo says, as a retired JTAC, I can 100% say we can lob multiple rounds to the exact spot within a few feet of one another.
Starting point is 01:46:39 Agreed. My point is not that that is the limiting factor. The limiting factor is not only would you have to do that, you'd have to do it at multiple locations because the Florida facility is spread out underground and deep underground because Iran intentionally built it because of our bunker busters. So the point, if they say they lobbed three consecutive, I think, what do we have, like between 15 or 30 or something around there? Let's say they lobbed two or three in the same spot.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Boom. Okay. Now they got to come back and they got to do it in multiple locations to make sure they totally decimate the area. All the stories I've seen say we have 20. 20. Of those. So we're talking about basically using-
Starting point is 01:47:16 All of them. Near our entire stuff. I mean, let's just be reasonable and say we're going to use two each, four times. So eight. So a little bit less than that, 40%. That's a lot. But then you're still in a situation where you can't confirm if you got the destruction you were looking for. Until someone goes on the ground.
Starting point is 01:47:30 Well, Assad would have to go in and confirm. Because they've got to do something. And they could very easily lie. I mean, if you're going to give control and power and authority of deciding the narrative of the earth right now to some secret police force in a country, that's a lot of power to give them to be an arbiter of truth. But it's not just that. I don't think that Assad is a secret police force. Because it, that's a lot of power to give them to be like an arbiter of truth. But it's not just that, because it's the use of those. And right now, Boeing is having trouble delivering on their, like anything. They couldn't get the two Air Force Ones done. They're like 15 years behind on that. And they're having trouble delivering on pretty much everything in inventory that they're supposed to be providing. Those GBU-57s are a Boeing product. So replacing that inventory would be a significant expense and time delay. Like they're really having trouble. And I'm a huge Boeing person
Starting point is 01:48:12 because they employ so many people in St. Louis. It's unbelievable. We have a huge Boeing facility in St. Louis, but they're having trouble. You're saying just replenish the armaments themselves, the bombs themselves? The actual bombs themselves. If you go with Tim's scenario and you use eight, or yeah, eight, you then have 12 left. And maybe the 20 is what they like to keep on hand. I don't know. I mean, we sent so many munitions to Ukraine, I don't even know what our standards are anymore.
Starting point is 01:48:36 But yeah, it would be a problem. They're low. Right. They're basement low. Yeah. Yeah. They're Fordo low. Yeah. Yeah. They're Fordo low. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Maybe. St. Miles says, Hey, Ian, whatever op you choose, bunker buster, nuke, boots on the ground, or revolution, the blood will be on your hands for pushing for any option to involving America in a problem by Israel and Iran. Did you tell Neville Chamberlain that, too, when he appeased Hitler and gave him the Sudetenland? I'm not saying we should attack Iran. I'm just pointing out the different scenarios to look at yeah Neville Chamberlain should have attacked Hitler in 1938 and he didn't and because of that you got what you got well I mean France also royally screwed up they did they just sat there and waited with this ancient head
Starting point is 01:49:20 of their military chief of staff from World War I that didn't know what he was doing floundering around waiting until they got attacked. Unaware of the advancements in technology and unwilling to recognize it. Like, he'll never penetrate our defenses, and then Hitler's like, I'll go around. That's it. Or, now we can go above. That is funny. You know, they call France cheese-eating
Starting point is 01:49:38 surrender monkeys, because they literally surrendered right away without any real fight. They just got occupied instantly. That's why they don't get to talk about anything with their whole month of August off. It's amazing, but France has one of the greatest wartime records, in fact. So it's
Starting point is 01:49:54 funny how that one defeat turns them into cheese-eating surrender monkeys, even though historically France has been brutal. The greatest army on Earth. Well, one of. Napoleon. It is funny how they're like, revolution. And then Napoleon's like, I'll be your emperor. And they were like, okay.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Short enough. Yeah. Whatever. So someone in the chat is talking about, you know, we're talking about Israel and all that. And we have veterans living on the street. I mean, I'm with you, bro. I actually, I'm a veteran. My father's a veteran.
Starting point is 01:50:23 My husband's a veteran. I don't understand why we have veterans on the street. I don't understand why we don't do the homeless remediation programs that have been proven to work in big cities that have, we've literally implemented them and they've worked. Why don't we do that for veterans? Why don't we start with them and then spread out? We could really lower the amount of homeless that we have in this country right now. Some cities do it better than others and we could actually do something with it. Why are veterans, why are there homeless veterans? Are many of them suffering from mental illness?
Starting point is 01:50:53 A lot of them have PTSD. They come back and they can't, they're in multiple deployments back to back and they go again and again and again. Once you've been deployed to Iraq five times and you've been blown up a few times and half the people you know have been killed, you come back and your mind is still there. You can't sleep on a bed. You're used to sleeping on the ground. I mean, it's just a whole life change.
Starting point is 01:51:14 And they're not prone to asking for help. These are operators. They're used to helping. They're not used to asking. And so they have to have a special kind of intervention. And oftentimes, their family can't deal with them. They often go through a divorce when they get back. First thing that happens is they come home. The wife is like, I don't know who this is. You're a monster. And they get divorced. Now they've got a broken family. They're off on their own and they don't make a lot of money as it is. They make very little in comparison to what a lot of us are used to out here in the private sector. There's a lot of drivers for homelessness with veterans, but they're not insurmountable. We don't have to have 55,000 homeless veterans. We can have far less.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Can't they, I imagine probably not everybody, but isn't there a job still in the military that they could be doing that would alleviate this? Well, they come back service disabled, so they have to get out because they're physically or mentally unable to continue to serve. Some of them do hang around and serve and continue to, you know, and those are the ones that they do very well. But the best opportunities for them to go into a civilian role, work for the federal government, and then they can continue on. But, you know, we're talking about 55,000 people. That is nothing in this country. 340 million of us, 40 million illegals, but whatever. We have an obligation to these people to help them. And there are plenty of organizations in the private sector, but the VA sucks when Democrats
Starting point is 01:52:33 are in charge. The wait time is eight months. 387,000 of our vets died waiting for an appointment under a Democrat president. When Trump was in office, he changed that. But of course, Biden flipped the switch back to every slow nonsense thing when he came into office. And people are saying the VA sucks. It sucks when Democrats are in charge. I'll tell you, there is one thing that makes me consider communism. I mean that jokingly, but it's that because I brought this up a long time ago. I was like, since a kid, I've always wondered why it is that we have multimillionaire baseball players, basketball players, football players, musicians, and then first responders and servicemen and women get paid like low class wages. And I'm like, why are we as a society giving $500,000 contracts to a guy who plays football?
Starting point is 01:53:22 And then building him a stadium, Tim? Yeah. My governor just gave a stadium to the Kansas City Chiefs to keep them on our side of the missouri kansas line that's a thousand dollars per missouri family i've never been in that kansas city's chief stadium i don't like football i don't give a crap whether they stay here or not but a thousand bucks for me the one thing i'll always shout john stewart out for is uh his defense of the 9-11 first responders yeah i don't understand why those people just don't get infinite money forever.
Starting point is 01:53:48 I mean, I'm somewhat kidding, obviously, but they should want for nothing. We have it to be able to give them an endless stream of cash. Of course. And the veterans, too. The reason why you see athletes, you might already know this, athletes and actors and musicians get all that money is because they're driving revenue. It's capitalism, I know. And that's why I said communism,
Starting point is 01:54:03 because it's like, I get it. If 100,000 people want to buy Ian's new hit single, Ian Rocks, and they're going to spend a couple bucks for it, he's going to make $100,000. And when it comes to paying for firefighters or cops, nobody wants to pay taxes. Nobody wants to make those payments. They don't want to. The new thing with cops is forget about funding them. How about if we just let them live?
Starting point is 01:54:30 Every year we top the year before on the number of police officers who are ambushed in their cars, sitting there eating, literally eating a donut while they're taking a 15 minute break before they go to the next patrol. They're getting gunned down. They're getting ambushed when they get called 911. They show up, they get shot and killed. These things happen far more often than reported in the media. And these are our first responders. And every time I've ever dialed 911,
Starting point is 01:54:51 some really cute suburban cop shows up and walks around my backyard and hands me a business card and comes back again. They do patrols at our house when we're on vacation. These guys are amazing. They're always amazing. And then there's all this crap against them. And my dad was in law enforcement. It's just the dumbest people in our society ruining something great that we have. So I'll go on Instagram and a video popped up the
Starting point is 01:55:17 other day where it was a cop giving a guy a ticket for window tint or something. And he's complaining about it. I see a bunch of videos on Instagram periodically where it's like unreasonable cops being dicks to people. Oh, yeah. But the reality is the overwhelming majority of interactions people have with cops are administrative or helpful. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:37 So it's like you got a ticket and you groan, but it's a rather routine stop. Cop says, look, you were speeding, here you go, or here's your warning. I've been pulled over a lot. I like driving BMWs and Must speeding. Here you go. Or here's your warning. I've been pulled over a lot. I like driving BMWs and Mustangs. I like speed. I grew up in Germany.
Starting point is 01:55:49 I learned how to drive in Germany. There's no speed limit there. So I've been pulled over a lot. You'd have been shot a long time ago. Well, amazingly, I'm still sitting here unshot, completely unshot, because I know how to talk to a cop. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:56:00 There were at one point one million police officers in this country before ACAB and defund the police. And there were over a billion interactions a year. And you have about 1,300 people a year getting shot. And the majority of those people are white. So please help me understand why all cops are bad. If they were all bad, there'd be dead people everywhere.
Starting point is 01:56:18 But people think it's true. This is what I never understood. There are these videos from like they call themselves auditors or whatever. And it's like a video where a cop pulls a guy over and the guy's just screaming at the cop. I know my rights. You can't do this. And I'm like, why are you doing this?
Starting point is 01:56:31 Yeah. It's like, just take your ticket. It's sometimes not even a ticket. I got pulled over once and I was speeding. And the guy said, he's like, how's it going there, buddy? You were speeding. And I was like, I got to go to the bathroom. And he was like, all right, all right.
Starting point is 01:56:44 I'll give you a warning, man. There's an exit out here. It's a gas station. I was like, thanks. Appreciate it, man. I've gotten off with the warning. One time I was my little Mustang on active duty in the military, had my uniform on. I'm with a little pack. We're all going about 75 on Freedom Highway outside Eglin Air Force Base. I know. I get pulled over and I just put my hands on the wheel and my window down. And when he came over, I just looked up and I said, what's the problem, officer? And he was like, you know, you were speeding. And I was like, I don't know anything. You were exceeding the speed limit. I said, sir, I was the last in a line of cars that all gave the appearance of going the
Starting point is 01:57:21 same speed. So was I alone? He said, no, you're the one I pulled over. And I was like, oh, curses foiled again. And he said, I'm going to give you a warning, but you need to slow down. You need to slow down. When you pull out of here, you slow down. I was like, thank you, officer. And he walked away and I was kind of giggling
Starting point is 01:57:36 because I thought I got out of a ticket and I took off. Now I've also been given a ticket, barely speeding over the limit. And the guy was a total jerk. But you know what I thought to myself? He's probably getting divorced. He's probably got real problems at work. He's got real problems and he's, you know, he's not nice. But I'm not going to be an asshole to him because he's being mean to me. I'm just going to take my ticket or my warning or whatever and go home. The story that I've told is how I got my license suspended. I got two tickets in which I
Starting point is 01:58:01 wasn't speeding. And so I'm pissed. I wasn't speeding and I get pulled over and they gave me tickets and now I have no choice but to go through the system and not a single individual in the system cares about who I am or what happened the DA who's prosecuting me for driving on suspended licenses I have no idea who you are and I don't care and there's no way that I can say this is a
Starting point is 01:58:20 BS suspension doesn't care the book says this that was actually the only thing I related to in the Andor series, where Cassian gets arrested, and every step of the way, they're just like, don't know, don't care, I'm just doing my job. That's the problem. The problem is not all police.
Starting point is 01:58:37 The problem is I had two assholes, and then the system is screwed up. But the system doesn't change when you just say, you know, cops are bad as individuals. That's a big problem of humans in general. It's easy to scream about a problem. It's easy. And if you just do it over and over and then you start getting paid because you're a great loud screamer and you're very articulate.
Starting point is 01:58:56 That was when Andor was still good. You've got to supply a solution. You realize that, right? The last season sucked. Did you see the last season? This was the last. Oh, no, that was the first season, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:03 That was when it was still so good. Well, but you didn't like the one where the white Imperial was trying to rape the undocumented worker in the court, in the grain, in the wheat field. That's what I'm saying. You didn't, it was, it was so good in the beginning.
Starting point is 01:59:12 I did like how, um, well, like the, the, the empire stage to false flag, like, I guess it's spoilers.
Starting point is 01:59:20 I don't know. The season's been out for a little bit, but, uh, you haven't seen it by now. Are you even a fan? Right. Get it over with. Basically season's been out for a little bit. If you haven't seen it by now, or you're even a fan, just get it over with. Basically, the Empire intentionally foments rioting,
Starting point is 01:59:30 hoping that essentially anti-Empire, leftists we'd call them, riot so that they can use it as justification for occupation. Because they want the stuff that's under the ground on that planet. Yeah, there's a mineral. It's kyber. Yeah. And so they're like, this planet under the ground on that planet yeah there's a mineral it's kyber yeah and uh so they're like this plant's got kyber and the problem is if we can't synthesize it we
Starting point is 01:59:50 are going to drill dangerously close to the core and the planet is on will become uninhabitable so they said okay well there's rebel factions there that oppose us let's let them do their thing and so they spy on them the rebels attack a ship and steal a bunch of weapons and they go, they attacked us with weapons. We have no choice but to occupy. Then they intentionally sent police out into the crowd of rioters, knowing the rioters would attack them.
Starting point is 02:00:14 And then when they did, they started shooting and killing and there you go. It's just that they could have done so much more with that last season of Andor since they knew it was the last season. Instead, we got two episodes a week and they were like basically only one episode plus a whole lot of people walking around in the wind blowing. I needed more. Let's grab a couple more super chats. I know we missed a lot of YouTube. Joe Spinella says, per Rich Barris, the facility
Starting point is 02:00:36 they want to use a bunker buster on won't work as it is deeper underground at 90 meters. And granted at that, the GBU-57 can go 60. Trump is surrounded by establishment psychopaths as far as nukes. Yup. Sovereign Fish has 20 for Ian, finally pumping some life into the show. It's been a yawn fest since the election. Pray, Ian, whenever you need to get
Starting point is 02:00:58 him back on the show permanently. Pay, Ian, whatever. That's the first time anyone's ever said that. Thanks, man. Kind of. It's sort of a dirty statement in general. No, I appreciate it. Fuck yeah, whatever. That's the first time anyone's ever said that. Thanks, man. I mean, kind of. It's sort of a dirty statement in general. No, no, I appreciate it. Fuck yeah, dude.
Starting point is 02:01:10 Light it up. Well, look, hey, I got to be honest. I wouldn't mind being underwritten by the CIA. And if the cost is just to be in favor of every regime change war ever, let me fill out the form. I got your back, bro. It could be big money. See, Ian is actually our deep state shill, so I can go, oh, whoa, Ian. I mean, whoa,
Starting point is 02:01:28 you can't say that. I usually subvert the subversion. It's a double subvert. Yeah. He looks like a hippie, but he's pro-war. He just looks like a double subversion in the two-dimensional state. He's also pro-death penalty. So am I. Hold on. I wasn't listening. Oh, in some
Starting point is 02:01:44 circumstances, for sure. But that's tough. This is. I wasn't listening. Oh, in some circumstances, for sure. But that's tough. This is why I adore councils of rulers. I don't think there should be one in charge, because who's going to decide if that guy lives or dies? It shouldn't be me. No one person should have that call, in my opinion. Okay.
Starting point is 02:01:57 That's why we have courts and juries. All right. Let's grab this. Sisyphus says, long before the Patri thomas jefferson deployed marines to the barbary coast without congressional approval yep and they wrote a song about it yep they wrote a very the marines famous song about it yeah the marine hymn from the halls of montezuma to the shores of triple e the barbary that story is so amazing why barbary pirates kept sinking u.. trade vessels
Starting point is 02:02:25 and he was like, please stop doing this and they were like, no. And then he was like, I will raise your ships and your cities and then formed the Marines and went and just obliterated them.
Starting point is 02:02:34 Jefferson? Yeah. That's the authoritarian I like. It's not authoritarian. It's defensive. That's what I'm talking about. He begged them, stop. He did.
Starting point is 02:02:42 He said, please. And there was something about where they said like, because you're infidels, we can do whatever we want. Oh, wow. He was like, infidels? And I will raise an army against you. He was like, I'm nice until I'm not nice. So that's how we Americans are.
Starting point is 02:02:58 We're nice until we're not nice. And you can love something that you destroy. You don't have to hate in order to destroy your enemy. You don't have to hate them. What? You can love and still kill if you're a marine or a warrior. You don't have to hate the thing you're destroying to make it right.
Starting point is 02:03:12 S.A. Federale says, Thoroughly loving the humor and real talk on this episode. Please do this again with the same panel. I had fun. You're here. Me too. It was very fun. I just lucked into meeting Tim Pool, you guys. And then I immediately texted my son and was like, you will never guess who I just met. He was like, Mom, you text me that like once every six weeks.
Starting point is 02:03:30 Where are you? I'm at the White House. He starts sending these names and I'm like, no, Tim Pool. And he was he sent back the eyeball emojis. I was like, right. I actually met him. Stacey was actually standing next to the seat when I was yelling at the press. At that media
Starting point is 02:03:45 day? Yeah. Yeah, that was great. They hated him so well, it was great. Perfect. Yeah, it was good. They still do. The Daily Show did a segment about it like two weeks ago. We've got to get Jordan Klepper up in the house. He's agreed. Oh, good, okay. So we reached out to Klepper's people, and they're interested in doing a show with us. Cool.
Starting point is 02:04:01 And so, I'm down. That's going to be cool. Alright, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, share this show with everyone. Cool. And so I'm down. Yeah. That's going to be cool. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, share the show with everyone you know, and grab the knob and turn it all the way up
Starting point is 02:04:11 till you rip it off. 80s Rock Radio is back, boys and girls. You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast. Stacey, do you want to shout anything out?
Starting point is 02:04:21 I'm at Stacey on the right everywhere. Whatever social media you're on, I'm on there and I'm Stacey on the right. And you can listen to me at night. You know what? As soon as you get done listening to this, you can basically turn on your SiriusXM app and listen to me.
Starting point is 02:04:33 So thanks for having me, Tim. I thought I would like your wicked cool compound. It's a compound, guys. We have chickens. And it's pretty cool. I didn't see the chickens, but I'll trust you because it's dark now. But, yeah, it's cool. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 02:04:46 I'm at Ian Crossland. You'll find me all over the internet. Check my YouTube stuff out. I just did a live stream last night talking about Iran, the history of Iran. And do yourself a favor and check out a documentary
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