Timcast IRL - VP Says No Unity With Democrats Celebrating Charlie Kirk Assassination, Left Confirmed w/ Sloe Jack

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Tim, Phil, Tate, & Shane are joined by Sloe Jack to discuss JD Vance saying there's no unity for Democrats celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk, liberal streamer Destiny saying Charlie Kirk was assas...sinated because Trump won a second term, FBI investigating accounts accused of foreknowledge of Charlie Kirk assassination, and explosives found under a Fox news van in Utah.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Tate @RealTateBrown (everywhere) Shane @ShaneCashman (X) |  @TalesfromtheInvertedWorld  (YouTube) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Sloe Jack @SloeJack (instagram)

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Starting point is 00:00:28 It's all delivered with our trademark blend of skepticism, humor, credibility, and practicality. 10% have here is self-help for smart people. Come join the party. Today, Vice President J.D. Vance filled in for Charlie Kirk on his show in the noon hour on Rumble. And it was an amazing show with many interviews. And in it, near the end, J.D. Van says there will be no unity with those who are celebrating the death, the assassination of Charlie Kirk. He wanted to describe this problem among many Democrats, but not all he says, but many, where they scream vitriol, celebrate death, call for more assassinations, and indeed they still are. And not just that. After it became apparent that Charlie Kirk was particularly beloved nationally, with.
Starting point is 00:01:28 football teams, baseball teams, offering moments of silence in his honor. The left changed their narrative. With many prominent liberals remaining silent out of fear, they begin to emerge saying, in fact, it was Nick Flentes and the Groypers who killed Charlie Kirk for, in fact, not being far right enough. Even now Axios is debunking these lies from prominent, mainstream, middle of the road, Democrat personalities. And that is the scary thing about what we are seeing.
Starting point is 00:01:58 You see, they say the right is responsible for all the violence. The right is much more dangerous, they go on TV and say, but here's what they're doing. They're saying that some crackpot white supremacists who lives in the woods is the same thing as Charlie Kirk, when in fact, Charlie Kirk would denounce in two seconds and, in fact, preached a race-neutral country and even called black children a gift from God. But they'll lie. They'll say Charlie was also a white supremacist, therefore all of the right is bad. Now, in the inverse, mainstream moderate liberals are defending the suspected shooter, obfuscating his ideology, covering it up and lying about the engravings on the bullets, because they realize they actually support this.
Starting point is 00:02:40 It seems the motivation for the shooter may be transgender ideology. At least that's what six independent sources, according to Axios, have stated that he was a lover, that his lover was trans, and that was probably the motivator. the governor says he was leftist radicalized he was an ideologue mainstream democrats support gender ideology and it appears this was the motivation for the killing that is this this individual the suspect in question right now cash patel says he's confessed on discord this individual is closer to mainstream democrat than many people want to believe so we'll talk about that plus we've got many more stories some of them are particularly brutal We've got one of a liberal who effectively states, well, actually, I'll give you the quote.
Starting point is 00:03:28 A prominent liberal streamer, Destiny, said, if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, president, he says, I'm sorry, I'm going to make sure I get this right. If you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Trump should not have been president in the second term. He's telling you, if you go and vote for who you think should be president, you should expect to die. You should expect your friends to die, your leaders to die. And it's your fault. That's what he's saying. That's how insane is getting in this country. So we're going to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Sorry for making this one a bit longer. We've got a lot of stories to break through in terms of what's going on with this investigation, this story. And did you guys know that two men were caught trying to plant a bomb on a Fox News truck in Utah? It's getting crazy out there. Utah's crazy. Now before we get started, my friends, we got some great sponsors. We've got venice. You know, in times like this, you need an AI system you can trust not to censor what you're looking for.
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Starting point is 00:07:37 So, my friends, smash that like button. Share the show with everyone, you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Slow Jack. on what's going on people thanks for having me on i feel like uh overdressed my cap on everyone else is looking nice in the black t-shirts black actually you got the suit on mate that looking good man yeah look like the penguin out here though hello you know saying it seriously yeah well who are you what do you do i make music where do i look at the camera do i look at any you just look around i'll look up there what's going on people i'm slow jack i make music for a living but online i'm known for just saying stuff talking shit basically in an ozy accent it's being funny mate
Starting point is 00:08:14 That's basically it. Thanks for having me on. Right on. Take the producer is here. What's going on? Everybody, Tate Brown here. Happy to be here. I'm Shane Cashman. I think destiny needs an exorcism. Tonight at 10, I'll be going live with Inverted World Live. I'm going to be talking about the American death cult terror cells, accelerationism, gleeful demons. And after all that, I probably get into how NASA has banned Chinese nationals and alien life form.
Starting point is 00:08:42 That might be going out of a meteorite. On my new YouTube channel, which is at Tim Poole, I made a video called It's Time to Bring Back Exorcisms. Yes. And it's actually, it's a small channel. It's brand new. It's got like 35,000 subs, but it's 60,000 views already in the video with everyone being like, yep. Yeah, you can't deny it. There's ghoul everywhere.
Starting point is 00:08:59 There's ghouls. There's ghouls around. You see them. See them walking around the strike mine. I tend to think that Desk needs law enforcement. Yeah. I think exorcism plus law enforcement. There you is that.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Just like that. You should be the one doing it. I'm ready. Hello, everybody. My name is Philibonti. I'm the lead singer of heavy metal. And all that remains, I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it. Here's the news from PBS.org. J.D. Vant says national unity is impossible with those celebrating Charlie Kirk's killing.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Vice President Vance said Monday while hosting Charlie Kirk's radio show that he is desperate for national unity after the conservative political activists' killing, but that finding common ground with people who celebrated the assassination of his friend is impossible. The Republican Vice President filled in his host of the Charlie Kirk Show from his ceremonial office in the Eisenhower Executive Office building next to the White House. The live stream of the two-hour program was broadcast in the White House Press briefing room and featured a series of appearances by White House and administrative officials who knew the 31-year-old Kirk. Vance, who transported Kirk's body home from Utah to Arizona aboard Air Force 2 last week, opened by saying that he was filling in for somebody who cannot be filled in for, but I'll do my best. In his closing remarks, Vance criticized what he said were lies about Kirk that he blamed for the killing. He also promised that the Trump administration will act to stop anyone who will kill another person because of their words.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I'm desperate for our country to be, I'm desperate for our country to be united in condemnation of the actions and the ideas that killed my friend. I want it so badly that I'll tell you a difficult truth. We can only have it with people who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable. Well, here's the challenge, Mr. Vice President, with all due respect, I do agree. There are many prominent middle-of-the-road liberals associated with prominent mainstream liberal organizations who have been putting out lies. they've been making little comic strips flooding the internet with lies to trick the left and liberals,
Starting point is 00:10:46 the moderates, that the assassin of Charlie Kirk was a groiper. They are framing Nick Fuentes. And I think their strategy was Nick Fuentes is kind of a boogeyman even to conservatives. So if they blame him, conservatives would just say, okay, which is not the case. No one's going to do that. That's not true. And there's even an article from Axios debunking the lies. What we believe, to be true as of now, according to Cash Patel, the governor of Utah,
Starting point is 00:11:14 Axios is reporting with six individual sources. Mind you, the media has no problem reporting things with a single anonymous source, but this time they have six, saying the motivation for the assassination likely was the shooter's transgender lover. And the left is lying about it. So when J.D. Vance tries to be diplomatic, and I respect it, saying we can't have unity, with those that are celebrating the assassination of Kirk. My question then becomes, and for everyone here, is can we have unity with those that are lying to cover up the assassin's motive to justify the killing of Charlie Kirk?
Starting point is 00:11:51 No, no unity. It's so refreshing seeing J.D. Vance say this because the line from the GOP, not the entire GOP, but from a lot of GOP, Ratchiks, like right off the rip was, guys, peace and unity, let's all come together. Like, this is a battle between good and evil. and it was very vague, it was not precise whatsoever. So it's so refreshing that Trump and Vance have gotten up here and straightened out everyone's rhetoric here
Starting point is 00:12:14 because it's like, okay, sure, good and evil, that's downstream from left versus right. That's exactly what's going on here. One side is evil and has demonstrated that we should be killed for our beliefs. And then the other side is just saying, let's have a debate. So it's just so refreshing to see this, because, I mean, there were so many senators and congressmen that came out and did the whole peace and unity rhetoric,
Starting point is 00:12:33 and it's like just not precise and not point it to what's going to. on at all that all that stuff's out the window at that point mate you see you know people like oh but what about coming together it's like mate people are dead people have been shot and i'm just just look at it i just don't understand how we even got here and it mate i don't get upset much man but like just as a dude i don't like seeing people get shot and just i just don't understand why people it's why it's such a conundrum mate this they've just demonstrated that they're done with us you know and and if they want people like charlie gone. Imagine what they want for someone who's got similar beliefs like you or me or whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Well, this is an important point. Charlie Kirk was a moderate, traditional conservative. What do you think that means for everybody else? Well, he was the guy I wanted to have a conversation. They took out the guy, the only true guy, there were many, but he's the main guy just wanted to talk, mate. He went straight to the uni, straight to the colleges, whatever you call them, we call them unies. But he went straight to the source, mate, like a boss, like a rock star, mate. And with all respect to Milianopoulos, who acknowledges he's not the nice guy. Milo did his college tours, and he was snooty and snarky and snapped back at these people. Charlie told some, he didn't insult these people. He would say, God bless you and I love you.
Starting point is 00:13:52 See that tweet where it was like, it was like, you took out the nice guy, now you got Milo. I would love to see Milo return to the college tour. We asked him to do it. And he went, I'm 40. It's worth pointing out though. Because because there are people on the left that are going to try to act as if what Vice President Vance said was blanket statement about the whole left and all of the Democrats. And he was, like you said, he was precise. He specifically was talking about the far left, the crazies. And he did acknowledge there are Democrats that are not out of their mind. There are Democrats that do not endorse violence and stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And so it's worth pointing that out only because there are. going to be people and you're seeing it on X all day long. Vance has done this. Vance, blah, blah, blah, Vance. How terrible. How terrible. He did call for unity with normal Democrats, but the people that are actually celebrating his murder, the people that are saying, let's start lists of other conservatives. This is a good thing. That's a lot of people. That's not, that's not five dudes. I agree. I agree. 100%. And that's why it's so, I think why so many people are so, shocked about the response. But like I said, I think it's important that we acknowledge that, or at least point out, Vance was not talking about all Democrats, and he made that distinction clear.
Starting point is 00:15:16 The thing is, they've mainstreamed political bloodlust since COVID. I mean, your neighbors started looking at you as a monster in 2020 during lockdowns. They wanted you to die. They were like, we're not going to give you care if you don't get the thing we want you to take. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like the culmination. You want to destroy your life. Yeah. We're seeing this and we're seeing people get fired from their jobs. And I think J.D. Vance may, may, may, even had made mention to that. I don't want to misquote them, so I'm not going to try and paraphrase, but I don't care. These people, these liberals are coming out and saying, oh, no, right-wing cancel culture.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And my attitude is, I agreed with the left when they said, there are certain things that you can't say in public. The problem was they were pushing the line, like they were, they were forwarding the line like they were running across a football field full speed. Yeah, yeah, no. And so people were getting swept up and being told that things they'd said 10 years ago were unacceptable today, even though they didn't say it today, and getting fired from their jobs. I have no problem saying at any point, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, or today, if you go to your job and start yelling about how you're glad someone got killed because they deserved it while you cackle like a fiend, if the boss said you're making people uncomfortable, you need to leave, I would have said, yeah, that's insane. It's reasonable. It's not digging up a tweet from 12 years ago saying you said something insensitive when you're 13. playing Xbox. We're recording a you walking down the street. It's someone going to work like Yeah. If you have a soul you don't want to have anyone that like that around work there
Starting point is 00:16:46 Working at McDonald's on that serving a burger mate. But like even even worse than that I think if you have a soul you have to understand that the people who are celebrating this and dancing on his grave They need to be removed from society like if if they're teaching your kid they can't be involved See how many of your teachers. See how many of your health care? They can't be in charge of your health care like that's insane Doctors and teachers everywhere, I mind. There's that article from a teacher in Canada showing fifth graders the video. You know, that's a lot like what happened in the culture revolution when they would drag people out in the public square in China and make children watch decapitations and make the children sing the Chinese National Anthem while the heads rolled from the bodies. I've never heard of that. Oh, it's gross stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:25 And you know what I think is the one of the terrifying, there's a tweet that I saw. I remember when the war with Israel and Iran broke out and there was. All the planes and the air traffic was going around Israel and Iran, that whole area. And then one UAE flight went straight over. And then the joke, someone tweeted was, I deleted all of my social media. I deleted all my social media. And honestly, my mental health has never been better. And they're flying straight over Iran.
Starting point is 00:17:51 We get the point. It's not, yes, ignorance is bliss. And someone tweeted, in reference to the story, when, if you delete your social media, you won't see it when they come to kill you. And that's actually kind of terrifying. what we are seeing, this was a response to all of the people posting, they want you dead. And not just that lists have been made with many names. My name is on many of those lists, as well as many other conservative commentators.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Docs lists and all that stuff. Docs lists, addresses, and they're saying them next, there's videos of people saying, why just him go for the rest now. I'm waiting. There's one, there's just too many of these. Oh, mate, they're saying you can look up the word next, next please, on Twitter and you can see a list of people. people calling for. I think it's disgusting, mate. How has this been made mainstream? They've been conditioned by their media diet.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Like you said, like I was saying. Because the institutions are controlled by their allies and never censored or shut them down. The right doesn't do this. The mainstream right, traditional conservatives, what does Charlie Kirk say? Race neutral country. Your race isn't what matters? Your ideas and your willingness to work. So what do they do? Maddie Hassan tweeted out a page of out of context quotes from Charlie Kirk to justify why he's dead, saying that he was a bigot and a racist. Now, of course, he'll tell you, oh, no, no, no, I'm not trying to justify that he's dead. But we know that's exactly what they're doing, because there's no reason to lie about someone in such a dramatic way. The reality is, Charlie Kirk was nice. He did not believe these psychotic
Starting point is 00:19:26 things they're lying about. He never said black women didn't have brain processing power. They made that up. They're doing that because a someone whose ideology is aligned with the mainstream Democrat party. That is, the important thing is, people keep saying this guy was a leftist, wrong answer. I won't call him a leftist. This guy was liberal aligned. He was left aligned. Why? What are leftists? Antifa marching through the street with masks on, screaming Antica pizza lista. It's fringe stuff, right? J.D. Van said it was fringe stuff. Well, who is this guy? As far as we tell. The only motivating factor was gender ideology, which of course is an ideology aligned with every single Democrat in Congress. This is not fringe. This is on television. This is on what channel
Starting point is 00:20:15 was it where they had I Am Jazz, where the mother talked about waking up her son in the middle of the night who has a surgical graft in his abdomen that she jams a device into? Was it TLC? I'm entirely sure, so I'll be careful. But that is on television. That is on television. So this person is motivated to kill Charlie Kirk because his lover, his boyfriend, is a male who identifies as trans. And that's what investigators are saying. I think people need to wake up that as much as J.D. Vance is saying this is fringe. The ideology that motivated this is sitting right now with every single Democrat in Congress.
Starting point is 00:20:52 And I'm not saying every single Democrat wants to hurt anybody or is advocating for this. I'm saying this ideology is universal on the left. There are states that will abduct your child if you don't affirm their gender BS. That's right. There are states that allow strangers to kidnap your children. And if they bring them, I believe it to the Pacific Northwest, if a man takes your 13-year-old child from your home, anywhere in the country, and brings them to that state for a sex change, they cannot be prosecuted. Insane. That's why it's such a mistake for this line that some people are taking where they're like, oh, he's clearly mentally ill or he was clearly radicalized. It's like, just flip on any leftist stream.
Starting point is 00:21:27 you're going to see there's a huge social incentive for, I'm not going to say violence, but certainly hate, I mean, full-blown, full-blown hatred towards these types of people. Let's, Exhibit A. Let's listen. Earlier today, Pierce Morgan uploaded a debate with several personalities, including Jack Posobic, Anna Kasparian, Andrew Wilson, and who else, who was on it? Cornell West. He stormed off in rage, refusing to have a dialogue.
Starting point is 00:21:53 So Pierce Morgan decided to bring on Destiny, a liberal streamer, who states, and that I quote, if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Trump should not have been president in the second term. And I'll play that video for you right now. Cool, Noel West for now. Maybe we'll get him back.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Well, Andrew Wilson referred to Destiny's insane tweets a little earlier, which were disavowed by Anna Kasparian. Well, Destiny joins us now. Destiny, you've been quite active on social media since Charlie Kirk's death. When Erica Kirk posted Charlie's coffin, you responded, she tagged him, brackets, crying face emojis. In response to Alina Habber's tweet, ordering people to fly their flags,
Starting point is 00:22:35 a half-master memory of Charlie, you posted on X buying flags and polls just to fly them fully erect. And you then posted yesterday, ending every conservative debate call out I'd do in 2026 with Don't Dodge, Bro, that's not what Charlie would have wanted. I mean, do you think that your response to the cold-blooded murder of Charlie Kirk has been appropriate? Yes. I think that the only way this country moves forward into a better world
Starting point is 00:23:03 is when conservatives can finally realize that they need to turn the temperature down on their side. We are 10 years into whatever this Trump madness is and there is not a single mainstream conservative that will call for a lowering of the temperature on their side. I think that liberals need to wake up and finally realize that if they're not willing to do it, it will never come down.
Starting point is 00:23:23 If you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Donald Trump shouldn't have been president for the second term. Every time he's in office, this happens. People joked about when Biden came in. It was so boring. Nothing was going on. Seven out of ten of the largest protests in American history have happened under Donald Trump. All of the recent political violence that's happened in this country over the past 20 years, the majority of it, the overwhelming majority of it, everybody gets mad because they keep asking Grock about it, has been conservative.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Who has been? Who shot Charlie Kirk? A guy from Utah who was raised in a Christian family who was a 22-year-old. Guy described no destiny. He didn't have a trans girlfriend. He didn't have any trans influences. He didn't have any trans bullets. Yeah, I'm sorry you guys were wrong on all.
Starting point is 00:24:04 He's lying. But the most important takeaway from them, and I'll show you a bit of this debunking it, how Charlie Kirk's killing sparked unfounded theories about Groyper's. Here's the New York Times. Kirk shooting suspect held leftist ideology Utah governor says. And the only thing you can say is, you were wrong about that. You were wrong. But the most important takeaway from what?
Starting point is 00:24:25 said was, if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Trump should not have been president in the second term. Seven of the biggest protests were under Trump, most of the political violence. What he is saying is obvious to anyone who has ears, and he is saying it in a way to exploit legal loopholes. Because what he's not legally allowed to say, or I would argue that he crosses the line into potentially being sought after for criminal charges, is if he said, if he were to express that he or others would kill people who vote conservative, that's when he gets in trouble. But when he says it in this way, what is he saying? By you voting for Donald Trump, a leftist killed Charlie Kirk and maybe you shouldn't have voted for Trump. If you didn't want
Starting point is 00:25:16 the left to protest, the biggest protests and the mass rioting that we saw in 2020, maybe you shouldn't have voted for Trump. But who was doing it all? the left. And that's the threat he's giving you. In fact, there's another video. How about I play this one for you? Exactly like... I need...
Starting point is 00:25:32 You need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature. The issue is right now... That is idiocy. Guys, we can't hear when you talk over what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Not exactly like... I need... You need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature. The issue is right now they don't feel like there's any fear
Starting point is 00:25:57 like I don't know it's like memes it's just memes to everybody I guess that's a lie and that's all he does is lie because as the late David Graber stated the left 10 years ago adopted the fascistic ethos quote there is no truth but power
Starting point is 00:26:15 so when destiny goes on peers Morgan today and says there was no trans boyfriend it's all made up and we actually have here you go FBI investigation social media accounts that appeared to indicate four knowledge of Kirk assassination, and they are all transgender-aligned accounts and in transgender forum saying we effing did it. And you have numerous reports, even the DOJ saying that this person was left in line with a trans boyfriend, and even the New York Times reporting, Governor Spencer Cox, who has been heavily criticized by the right for actually being
Starting point is 00:26:49 pro-left. But we'll get into more of this. And the evidence breaking this down, the point is, This argument that they're making right now is that destiny didn't really mean that. He's saying, no, no, no, you should fear the death, not actually get shot. That's a lie. He celebrated the death of Corey Comptor. He mocked it and made fun of it. I'll tell you this. When he says the right doesn't fear any of this stuff, it's a fabrication and I can tell you how I know this.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Without naming any of the prominent conservative personalities, I can tell you that many of them that I personally know have 24-hour security details that cost millions of dollars per year, and they have to sleep with four men surrounding their home every single night. And when I've gone and met with these people, I've had two heads. We would go out for food, and there's four guys surrounding us all time. In fact, I have armed guards. And now as we're planning a trip, as I mentioned, I'll be in Austin soon. We're contemplating how much is in our budget for armed security to be transporting me around. Destiny is lying. He is creating terror intentionally. His statements are to be clear. Charlie Kirk died because Trump won the president because you voted for who you
Starting point is 00:27:58 want to. What he's saying is this will continue. The left will be violent. They will kill again unless you stop and surrender and let them do whatever they want. It's just terrorism. He's endorsing terrorism. He's saying that people should be afraid of being killed because of their politics. That is what terrorism is there's not it's not it's not some kind of big convoluted concept when you say i believe that violence should be used and i endorse using violence to modify people's political expression that is terrorism and it's exactly what destiny's destiny's saying they he should get a visit from the fbi and it's i think that if if they decide or they find that he is he should go to trial and if he is he should be put in jail yeah well and look at
Starting point is 00:28:49 look, it's very careful what Destiny is saying here, where he's saying the right needs to learn to stop turning up the temperature. Okay, how exactly was Charlie Kirk turning up the temperature, having conservative beliefs? One more thing to that point. There has never in any, in any society, there has never been a situation where people are given, like when terrorism is used, and the response from the people has been to go to their leaders and say, give in to the terrorists. That's what he's saying. He's saying, you should. we need to turn up the heat on the conservatives so they'll
Starting point is 00:29:23 go to Donald Trump and say Donald Trump you need to do things and other Republicans you need to do things that turn the temperature down. That has never worked in human history ever. The response will be what I've said which is use the force of government to put those people
Starting point is 00:29:39 that would use terror into effing jail forever. Let's put this into context. What he's saying? The Republicans need to go to Trump and tell Trump to turn things down. Charlie Kirk never advocated for violence, never insulted people based on race. They have lied about him every step of the way. He sought debate.
Starting point is 00:30:00 He let anyone debate him. And he was shot in the neck by a man. And you know what? I'll do this. I will give you the lightest nonpartisan approach I can to the assessment we have on the shooter and his motivation. Axios reports two days ago, or I'm sorry, this is yesterday. First post, I think it was just almost two days ago. Kirk investigators, a gassed transgender roommate may lead to motive.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Axios reporting this. This is not a conservative organization. And they said, authorities are investigating whether Tyler Robinson suspected of killing Kirk believed Kirk's views on gender identity were hateful to people like Robinson's transgender roommate, six sources familiar with the case tell Axios. So this is first. foremost. What they are saying is what we don't know if, we don't know if gender ideology was the motivating factor. What we do know is this individual at the bare minimum lived with a trans person.
Starting point is 00:31:03 So forgive me if I say groopers don't live with trans people. That is a ridiculous fabrication. And here we are from Axios, how Charlie Kirk's killing sparked unfounded theories about groopers. and prominent mainstream liberals were running this lie. They also ran a lie where they claimed that the bullet engravings reported by Crowder and the Wall Street Journal said TRN and that was simply the manufacturer stamp. It was a lie. Total fabrication. The bullet in fact said, hey, fascist catch.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Destiny's rebuttal on the show was that wasn't the bullet he was shot with. which is a meaningless distinction. It was in the magazine. And so I don't understand what his point is supposed to be other than. Some are saying that destiny's life
Starting point is 00:31:56 has been ruined for some time. His family hates him. His kid hates him. And that he is doing these things intentionally to destroy his own life. And that may be the case. Now, the reason I bring that up is because the reason they're saying this
Starting point is 00:32:09 is don't blame all liberals for a man who is intentionally destroying his own life through rage and addiction or whatever it is he's doing. Perhaps. On some level, I like that he says this publicly, so we know what the face of evil looks like. And also, who bailed out the arsonists in 2020?
Starting point is 00:32:25 Who ignored David Dorn getting shot in the head? You know, I was like the left was cheering on all of that destruction. Aaron Danielson shot in the chest by Michael Reinhold walking down the street in Portland. Children getting shot at different Chas locations. Yep. So, and I'll just point this out real quick, New York Post. Charlie Kirk assassination suspect had furry fixation. and his trans-boyfriend proclaimed support for Biden on social media.
Starting point is 00:32:48 It is fascinating to me that Destiny, he knows he's lying. They all know they're lying. As I pointed out already, unfounded theories about Gropers. These Democrats have been lying incessantly. Now, something I've shown, I was showing all throughout the day. And I want to pull this up for you guys. Let me see if I can find this one. I've played it like on every single
Starting point is 00:33:15 I hope everyone's reading John Dutois's tweet up there I just don't like that guy's face that destiny bloke that's the reason why there's got that cut chair in the corner of them hotels mate I mean like he's a possessed Muppet so here we go I'm gonna play this I'm gonna play this video for you guys in this context here you go
Starting point is 00:33:35 so hi I haven't spoken about the Charlie Kirk murder until now because we didn't know anything and since my channel was created not to report the news, but to make sense of it, I felt like the only responsible thing to do was to wait until there was more information. It now appears that the person who shot and killed right-wing political commentator Charlie Kirk was like the majority of shooters in America, a young white male from a conservative pro-gun religious background. Now let's just pause real quick and break down the manipulation technique she used. We call this assumptive reasoning or assumptive language.
Starting point is 00:34:05 That is, to say something that will trick someone into assuming the statement is connected or to assume an output. That is, he came from a conservative background. She is hoping that you will then assume he held those same views. There's a bunch of ways the media does this. One of my favorite techniques they use would be like this. I spoke with Shane Cashman. In a conversation, I was told that he hates vanilla ice cream.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Now, it sounds like what I'm saying is I talk to Shane and Shane says he doesn't want to eat vanilla. No, no, that's not what I said. There's a period there. In a conversation, that was a totally different conversation. What do you mean? What are you talking about? I never said that. And that's the game they play.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Now, the reality is, we know this guy. It's reported by law enforcement, media, numerous journalists that have investigated this. People who have talked to the shooter's friends and family, he was left aligned. She says more. After being told for two straight days that the left had declared war on America, that the shooter was most likely trans, or in Congresswoman, Nancy Mace's words, pro tranny. After the Wall Street Journal published an article, they had to later walk back that the bullets had a pro-trans message because it turned out to be just the markings of one of the world's biggest ammunition factories. Absolute abject lie. Yes, mine.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And there's no way she doesn't know that because they did a press conference. And there were numerous reports on this. What she is basing her worldview off of is random anonymous Twitter accounts that were posting images of bullet casings with TRN for Turin on the bottom. And she ran with the lie without fact-checking, either because she is developmentally disabled, which I don't think so. I think she is intentionally and willfully lying to obfuscate the motives of the assassin who is closer to mainstream Democrat than anyone wants to admit even liberals. At first, at first they celebrated until the Yankees did a memorial, a moment of silence, until the Cowboys. I think most NFL teams now apparently had. There's just four that didn't.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I don't know which ones, but it was just the four. I think it was all of them, basically, except the four of them, yeah. In Vegas, some of the casinos on their marquees in memory of Charlie Kirk. And when the liberals realized, Charlie Kirk was a moderate, beloved by most people, Chris Pratt has spoken out, Bill Maher has spoken out, Jamie Kennedy, I think, I just saw him, comedian? Mick Jagger. It was great. Mick Jagger did?
Starting point is 00:36:31 Yep, we did. The left began to panic when they realized they're on the wrong side of history. So they're trying to change the narrative, and they are playing dirty. evil psychotic games to do it, but we will expose them. Change in history, mate. You've seen a few times on Twitter where they'll come out and they'll say, oh, it was a grope that did it. And then he presses me and say, well, you're changing this
Starting point is 00:36:51 because you know this is a completely indefensible action that took place. And they'll say, well, no, actually it was his rhetoric that got him. So it's like they can't even decide on what their narrative is. It's just absolutely insane. They fight with each other on it too. Like you see, they're still fighting the position of whether it's a moral thing to do. You see half of them are going. Oh, he didn't deserve to die.
Starting point is 00:37:10 And half of them are like, yeah, you did, because he said this. And then they're collapsing on themselves. There's a reason why they can't make a meaningful political movement because they can't even come together for any sort of length of time that's meaningful at all. You look at it. No, you go, no, you're right, you're right.
Starting point is 00:37:26 I was going to say the ironic thing is that when these leftists come out and say, Charlie Kirk preached hate so he deserved it, they're holding up a giant bullseye over their own faces. And that's why we tell them not to do this. The logic that these people are espousing is if Charlie did deserve it, they're basically saying they do too. And you know what's funny is the whole time, several years, destiny says no one in the mainstream conservative movement will call for the temperature to be put down to go down literally every single mainstream conservative every day, literally every day. Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk himself, Jack, me. We're always saying, guys, we don't want violence, even in the wake of Charlie Cook's killing.
Starting point is 00:38:09 On the day of, with tears in my eyes, as well as many others, we said, we cooler heads must prevail and we do not want violence. But no matter how many times we beg and say, stop, the left doesn't. And you know what they do? They create fake NGOs, only the real NGOs, mind you. And they do this really clever thing that the right isn't smart enough to do. So how about we do this right now? I'm going to create an organization, and we're going to call it the, let's call it the Mitterloop institution. And we're going to call it the premier surveying and study group for the United States.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Then we're going to put out a report where we say 97% of all violence is caused by the far left. Then we're going to disseminate that to newspapers who will publish it as fact and say new study reveals far left responsible for 97% of violence. And then when you trace it back to its source, you find out. It is a leftist-aligned nonprofit with a partisan report that was basically fabricated and then laundered through the press to masquerade as fact. And then they go on CNN, these Democrats like Seth Bolton, and say, the right is responsible for 76% of violence. And what are they really saying? They're saying, we've excluded gang violence from mass shootings. We've then lumped in, as the ADL does, anti-government protests, which includes Antifa.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Yep. white supremacy, which is not overtly political in any mainstream partisan way. And that includes white supremacist gangs in prison. And my favorite. Really? My favorite. Other. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:44 The ADL considers any nondescript political violence to be right wing. Let me prove it for you. Let me prove it. I didn't even know that's how deep it goes. It's white supremacist gangs in prison. which they are violent in prison because there's a lot of violence. But it doesn't include any black people in prison that commit any violence. Here you go.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Take a look at how the Anti-Defamation League's heat map categorizes extremism. Right-wing white supremacist. Now, if you went to J.D. Vance, the vice president, or Donald Trump, and asked them, do they hate black people based on race or should there be race? They're going to say, absolutely not. There should be no laws based on, you know, preferences based on race. If you went to any mainstream conservative and said, should there be race-based policy or, more importantly, do you think white people are inherently better than other races?
Starting point is 00:40:39 100% would say no. I said mainstream. There are certainly people on the fringe who align with white supremacy. But they call it right wing. Next, you have right wing anti-government. That's right. When far leftists go out and engage in violence, that's right wing. because they oppose the government.
Starting point is 00:41:01 What? Okay. Here's my favorite. Other. The category includes other right-wing extremist movements as well as the extreme wings of the broader right-wing movements
Starting point is 00:41:11 if they have association with violence, including anti-abortion, anti-Muslim, anti-immigration, anti-public lands. Other. So what is left-wing? The category includes groups and movements traditionally considered
Starting point is 00:41:24 part of the left, as well as anarchists. It also includes environmental and animal rights extremists, for simplicity's sakes, it includes black nationalist extremists, even though not all black nationalist extremist groups are necessarily fall under the banner of the far left. Why are there three categories of right wing? Very extreme category.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Why is an Islamist under left wing? The left overtly defense Islam every single day. Why is white supremacist right wing? How about they put left wing parentheses Islamist? Because what they have done is they have intentionally created a list that will lump tons of different categories under the quote unquote right because to the left right wing means bad guy this is what they do so how about this all start an NGO and we'll call it the middle loop institution and we'll get a picture of Shane wearing his mighty fine glasses and you're a doctor
Starting point is 00:42:14 yeah that's right 20 bucks you can get online too yeah that's right I can do weddings it's right I'm a doctor yeah yeah but you were actually a professor yeah I was yeah yeah do you have a doctorate no no I don't know that much shame but yeah we'll pretend we'll pretend Um, you know what? No, we'll get Dr. Drew. We'll get whoever. Yeah. And then we will do the stats the way they do. Disseminate them to the press and the press will run with it. Now, of course, the truth is the media is left aligned. So they knew they are, they know they are lying when they disseminate the stuff. But that's how they launder fake news and manipulate people into believing the stuff. Pass the buck along back to the NGO. And they don't give a shit. Well, it goes back to a study, a report that was published by the NGO. No one checks. There's one doctor who signed off on it. was the Alternative Influencer Network Report seven years ago, where they claimed that Chris Raygun, a video game comedy YouTuber, had collaborated with Richard Spencer, the frontman of the alt-right, when in fact the two men not only had nothing in common, but never once met. They claimed in their report that I had collaborated with Stefan Malinu, who I had never met before. They just make it up.
Starting point is 00:43:22 The funny thing was they put me in the middle of it. There's this big, like, what are those things called with the conspiracy maps like the red lines. Oh, just a just a fucking crazy guy's fucking wall. They made that and they put me in the middle and the young Turks used it unironically. How's it feel when like you see that just as Tim? I mean, I don't know. She's like what the fuck? It's I mean I guess at that point it's when I first saw it I made a bunch of phone calls like, whoa, let's go. What is this? And mind you, this is in 2018. I believe it was 2018. And this was a time where I said I was staunchly liberal and would never vote for Donald Trump and couldn't stand the guy. And they still lied about me and smeared me and did all this
Starting point is 00:44:05 stuff. Right. Absolutely insane. So at the time, I made a bunch of phone calls furious and called a lawyer and said, how can they include me in this and claim that I interact with people I did not? And they said, you can't do anything about it. Can't sue them. They're allowed to do it. Well, and I mean, And now it's going to get people killed, as we've seen, all these lies and smears and et cetera. It's going to get people killed. That's what already has. Yeah, that's their goal.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Yeah. That's their goal. Well, they set up the Pinser movement a while ago where they, they would say, if you went to like your average leftist, be like, okay, is it appropriate to punch a Nazi? And they'd be like, yeah, of course. Well, they'd punch a local Nazi. And then they would say, as someone like Charlie Kirk, a fascist. And they'd be like, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:44:40 And it's like, okay, we've already, you've already cleared political violence in your worldview. They've, they've seen, we've seen the way that they've cultivated this, the labeling culture that they've they've cultivated where they they attach these extreme words onto ordinary people like Charlie who are doing extraordinary things, but they they'll have the word Nazi, fascist, sexist, misogynist. And most people, let's be honest, most people don't do their own research. Most people just want to hear what they want to hear.
Starting point is 00:45:09 They want to see what they want to see. So people hear this, they'll run with it. If they don't like the guy, because from what they've heard or what their mates heard, they're going to run with it. And now we're seeing right now the end game of it, finally. they've got what they've wanted. They've now hit the green button on violence. Now it's condoned, mate.
Starting point is 00:45:26 And a lot of them are complicit in it. You see a lot of them are pushing back saying, I don't agree with it. I think it should be, but they're bicker with themselves. I can't believe a whole side of the political aisle can't come to terms on whether murder is wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:39 You know, isn't that, you know, like, messed up, mate. They've effectively made their side believe in the caricature that the talking heads and their bureaucrats created. So, like, Trump being literally Hitler, you know, they literally believe it. They used to be a meme, though. Remember, it's like, he is literally Hitler. But now it's like, there are maniacs, these people, mate, you know, like out here, they truly believe this. And they think they're heroes, mate.
Starting point is 00:46:03 They think they're Iron Man, Superman, superheroes rolling in. Cachow, thinking they're saving the universe from sudden doom, where it's just a normal bloke, you know, saying he loves people of all races. He doesn't see race. Get shot. How disgusting is that? We live in America. I'll move dear because you get away from countries like that, you know? What a shame.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Evil's everywhere, dude. I want to jump to the story from the free beacon. FBI investigating social media accounts that appeared to indicate four knowledge of Kirk assassination. In fact, there is a theory that there is a transgender cell. I think it may be an easier way to put it. Some people have referred to as a terror cell is there is an online click with various communication channels that talk to each other. knew about this in some ways aided or abetted the shooter, but at the bare minimum, there was a network of individuals, likely transgender, that were in communication with the shooter
Starting point is 00:47:00 and were aware of the plans. Take a look at this. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is investigating social media posts by at least seven different accounts that appeared to indicate four knowledge of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, according to three people familiar with the investigation. The posts, one of which referenced the date of Kirk's assassination, September 10th, more than a month before it took place, were all deleted in the days following the killing. Several of the accounts appeared to belong to trans individuals, and at least one of them followed suspect Tyler Robinson's roommate with whom Robinson was allegedly in a relationship. Now, here's an interesting thing.
Starting point is 00:47:33 There is a conspiracy theory that the roommate is the shooter and that Robinson is the Patsy. Did you see that footage? I saw this footage today of like the two individuals early on. It's beginning when he's like doing this product throwout, I think it was what he's doing. and you can see in the back on the frames you'll see two figures above the roof from which he was shot was like the the leisor center whatever it's called I haven't it's fake it's fake it's on the roof
Starting point is 00:47:58 it's someone's hands yeah if you look at it yeah I saw people sharing there's so many they've like littered the internet with so many easily I don't know what it is here's another one there's an image of the suspect and people are putting it next to the image of the suspect in jail and they don't look the same it's because the image of the suspect
Starting point is 00:48:15 in the stairwell is an AI generated image it's not real yeah yeah well for the past year I've had a guess on my show we've done about three episodes with BX talking about these cults that are these death cults that are online a lot of them have a lot of trans ideology in them and they reference each other and they're obsessed with mass shooters they idolize it they fetishize it it's it's a 709a 764 network it's a big deal some of them been in the military it's it's a big network so this is like the Catholic shooter the Catholic church shooter all the writing on his guns, referenced a lot of those shooters and other things.
Starting point is 00:48:50 This is an interesting one. In this TikTok, it reads, Charles James Kirk, Mr. College Dropout does not know what's coming tomorrow, be ready. This isn't a threat. It's a promise. One post said, Charlie Kirk is coming to my college. I really hope someone finally evaporates him. Let's just say something big will happen tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Another post says, you guys, I have something big coming soon. Just be sure to check, check the news. You'll know it when you see it. Well, that's that. 452 at 9-10. I guarantee there's a lot of people on. involved with this. Oh, yeah. Guaranteed. They're grabbing them super. It was the 7-6-2 Colt is what you're referencing. Where they recruit on like Roblox. I mean, that's a game for
Starting point is 00:49:27 like children. Oh yeah. They go after your kids and they will try to make your kids harm themselves, do horrible things to kind of induct them into the cult and it turns into real-life violence. And FBI just as you talking about it. They grew them really young on even on Reddit and all that and they go on there and they go on these Discord servers and they I've seen there There were these Discord servers where they were, there was this big thing, like, was going for a long time. There were like these grooming groups of people who were like trying to convince young kids that they were trans and they were very successful.
Starting point is 00:49:55 You know, they got a whole cohort of people who actually weren't like that and they somehow convinced them and this is a thing. There's a pipeline for this stuff and, mate, I can't believe people are saying, oh, the simplest dancer must be the simplest, you know, I look at this. There's so much more to it, right? Yeah, when, when you take the lonely and isolate them, and they're over-medicated, and you start feeding them, all this negative, like, demonic stuff, it's easy to activate them.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Well, it's easy for, it's easy for people like us to go, oh, they're just crazies. Because we go outside, we have beers at the lads, we go out, we have fun or whatever, we talk to people, we have social skills, whatever. There's kids out there who never leave the house, they've got no one, you know, and they get, like, preyed upon by these people in, like, Roelux and this. Like, I can't imagine how to get to that point where you can get manipulated like that, But there seems to be a large number of people right now. I'm guessing it's because of social media.
Starting point is 00:50:47 You feel like a Nant to Nant Hill. It's MK Ultra. Yeah, you're lonely. You know. Well, and also, like, people, when we think who's running these types of cults or, you know, sex-stortion groups or whatever, like, we think it's like some creepy old guy. But every time they bust these people, they're also fairly young. Like they're only. And they're just other atomized individuals that are just feeding each other, like this, like it's a death cult.
Starting point is 00:51:07 That's quite literally the only thing that could possibly think of me. It feeds on itself, you know. It's strange. And it's getting worse and where. worse and worse because every social indicator of young people's matriculation is going the wrong way. So it's just going to get worse and worse and worse. We see the identity, like, there's a lot, I can't remember the exact figure, there's a large percentage of young women, especially, who identifies LGBT.
Starting point is 00:51:27 And that's like whatever, but it's just like generally that was delegated to a very small minority of people for all of history and all of ancient history, prehistory. And you look at that, there's always been, you know, gay dudes going around. But, mate, you look at it now, these are large percentages, you know. I can't quite. I'm not going to say a number, because I'm not leftist. I'm not going to say a number just to say a number and go, this is the number, this is the truth. I'm going to wait until actually get a fact, but, mate, it's crazy. I want to play this clip from the five of Jesse Waters, which is kind of horrifying. These aren't fringe people. These are people that are teaching your children celebrating Charlie Kirk being assassinated. These are neurologists. These are people who work at Fortune 500 companies, and they're sounding like the devil himself. And so these people, we don't have to tolerate. We can forgive, but they have to get on their knees and they have to beg for forgiveness. They have to repent. The important thing right here is we're talking about the radicalization.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Do you want to go to a nurse, go to a hospital where the nurse was cheering for the death of Charlie Kirk? You show up and you've got like an American flag tattoo or maybe you've got We the People on your arm or, you know, join or die tattooed. Go to a place where they potentially hate you. And you go to a place where there's a woman working in there and she said, these people should die. I'm not going to let that person give me any kind of shot or IV or anything. That's, like, that's so strange that this is a wedge issue because it's like generally in any, like you were saying earlier, in any workplace, if someone's really excited that someone
Starting point is 00:52:58 died, they would get fired for that. Like that has been the standard. It's no brain of all of employment history. It's not like this isn't a new cancel culture for the right thing. This is just common sense, mate. What do they call it, accountability, accountability culture? now, consequence culture. That's what the left has always called it,
Starting point is 00:53:16 but I think the more worrying thing is to stop and consider teachers, doctors, lawyers, executives, secret service agents, people in the military, cheering for a political assassination against an individual who was a moderate. That is the terrifying reality that we're dealing with. The radicalization, look, every conservative knows I'm not a conservative.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Every liberal will call me far right. If a moderate, middle of the right, middle of the road, centrist, liberal leaning in certain areas, conservative in some areas. If a moderate is far right, y'all, you got targets on your back. Yeah, you're a problem, mate. Yeah. No tolerance. What a tolerant group of people, mate. And now there's this lie where if you go on networks like Threads or Blue Sky, everyone's ignoring threads, by the way, but Threads is really bad. As soon as the news dropped, I was like, please, I actually went on threads just as an experiment
Starting point is 00:54:08 because I was destroyed. I was actually out with a coffee and I actually heard people I was with my girl and I was actually you heard people on laptops you know in the in the afternoon there's all these you know
Starting point is 00:54:17 paper pushes on their laptops or whatever they're all I'm a writer I'm a journalist I'm an A&R I'm in Nashville so you get all these
Starting point is 00:54:23 music industry people mate in the corner these two girls blue hair looking like freaks mate no offense
Starting point is 00:54:28 whatever cool if you like blue hair but honestly I think it's disgusting um in the corner you hear them go oh my God
Starting point is 00:54:34 Charlie Kirk and you can hear it and they're like oh my God oh my God they're like jumping around and that's the first interaction
Starting point is 00:54:40 that I saw about it made me sick my girl was crying my manager and his wife are crying first thing i did i'm like let me check threads just as an experiment to see how is if this is a common thing that i'm witnessing or these are just two fucked up people at the coffee shop mate i've never been on blue sky i don't know it was disgusting actually disgusting rest in piss or whatever they say might. Threads is insane. I don't think people realize that there's no middle ground anymore. No. I just put my threads up right now. And the first thing I see is someone saying Charlie Kirk was a weirdo. He advocated for the inherent inferiority of certain social groups
Starting point is 00:55:25 at a time where hate crimes and discriminatory legislation were on the rise. It's just the whole thing. And then there are some conservatives trying to push back, but it's just a flood of liberals celebrating it. The funny thing is when they said, there was a viral post on threads that said, you mean there's a group that is further far right than Charlie Kirk with a bunch of exclamation points? Because their lie they were pushing was that Nick Flentes got Charlie Kirk killed, which is absolutely insane, by the way, fake. And Axios has even debunked. It's ridiculous. But it was because they needed an excuse to say, we're the good guys. But Greg Gutfeld exploded on Jessica Tarlow on the five.
Starting point is 00:56:05 today. And he was like, the reason you need to lie is because you're starting to realize you're not the good guys. And they're not. They're the villains. They cheer for the villains in movies. They made the orcs. They tried to make the orcs into good guys. They ruined the arcs, man. They just ruined the orcs. They did. Straight up. They ruined my orcs, you know. Do you see the show? Yeah. They ruined orcs. I can't believe you could ruin orcs. They're like one of the most steady character archetypes of all time. They're disgusting beasts. they're like, let's give them thoughts and feelings of shit. You know, it's like, no, do it.
Starting point is 00:56:37 They're poor families that are scared of humans. These poor orc families that kill people. And it's funny because it's the meme where it's the Battle of Helms Deep. Who can, if you don't know if that is, too bad, you're not in enough. Anyway, it's a big battle in Lord of the Rings. And the battle. And you see, I think it's like, I don't know, it shows Gandalf talking to Erdogan or whatever. And he's like, well, let them in.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Don't be racist. when he's like the orcs are here at the gates he's like well let them in don't be racist let them in I don't believe in borders so let him in I also want to say like I believe these cults exists but I also don't want to discount this idea of accelerationism and things that our government has done over the years whether it's Operation Gladiow Condor
Starting point is 00:57:23 the years of lead that they might have participated in Italy and I think there's these forces beyond just the foot soldiers on the ground that want to hasten the end times and collapse society. And that's what I see a lot of this. Whether or not they're actually behind this, I think they take advantage of these tragedies
Starting point is 00:57:38 and they want to bring us to the end. Well, the only thing separating these atomized shooters and the people that are celebrating is that the people celebrating just have something to lose. Because fundamentally they have the same ideology, the ideology of death. The only thing separating them from these executives or teachers or whatever is those are people
Starting point is 00:57:56 that have something to lose. But we're dealing with the same ideology across the board here from the atomized Colta shooter and, you know, your doc has celebrated. You can get away with much more when you're homeless and you're unemployed, you know, living in the basement. You can say whatever you like, but the teacher, you know, I can't believe people. I just honestly can't believe people are so confident right now. Like, we live in a confidence, like a confidence hellhole.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I think, you know, I grew up in Australia where it's like, if you're too confident, you get smacked on the back of the head, it's like, calm down, mate, you know, all that. But nowadays, you see people on social media, they are so confident in their anonymity, so I'm a bit dyslexic. But, mate, they're so confident in the fact that they don't think they'll be seen that they're going, they're cheering for death. They're a nurse. Or I saw this one, this woman saying she was a childcare worker. She said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:58:44 Fuck the kids. Oh, he's a father. Well, fuck the kids. Fuck the wife. It's like, bitch, you work as a childcare worker with your name on your Facebook and you've got your place of work right there. They instantly sacked her, obviously. But I can't believe people have the audacity, mate. I would never, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:00 I was working at McDonald's I'd be too afraid to lose my job I'm like, please, I'm a good boy Their ideology means more to them Chicken burger back I like that reference, right That's their whole identity though Yeah, it's a religion
Starting point is 00:59:13 Yeah, it's strange So it's more than their jobs when anything It's like they are virtue signaling To their death cult that will accept this They get a little taste of martyrdom If they get fired Yeah, exactly They legitimately, this is not a larp, this is not a bit
Starting point is 00:59:26 They legitimately think they're fighting fascism I like that point you said like role playing martyrdom you look at that even in the protests you know they're wearing the little scarfs on their head the kaffirs or whatever trying to look like the warrior
Starting point is 00:59:40 kind of it's almost like like uh what's that movie the Scottish dude fight for our freedom I'm just brave heart mate like that's what it feels like it feels like a fake attempt to kind of feel like that and you look at them they're a bunch of like five foot tall mentally ill scorny losers
Starting point is 00:59:55 and they're like we are warriors and they're like getting taken away from the cops. You're like, take my video. You know, it's like ever since, I think it's ever since the George Floyd. It's been the, there's been some kind of celebrity like, like this feeling of,
Starting point is 01:00:09 uh, of just prestige that comes with getting arrested or being a martyr or being a moron. And I just look at it. I'm just, I just don't know. I feel like the whole world's in like a state of shock right now that I, I haven't snapped out of yet.
Starting point is 01:00:22 I haven't snapped out of shock just going, how can these people be doing this? I don't know about you guys, but I haven't snapped out of it. Most people just, like, still struggling to find words. Yeah. And, you know, I don't even know, mate. It's hard to go to sleep.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Yeah. Your brain's just going and going. The next crazy thing, too, we'll just mention it briefly. I don't need to pull anything up for this is the people who are posting within a day, Israel did it. Israel killed Charlie Kirk. That's comedy, though. And they're lying. With flying thing.
Starting point is 01:00:50 So I will say this. Candice Owens, her live stream from two hours ago, is titled, are lying about Charlie Kirk, and it's a picture of Netanyahu. She has several viral posts where she said in the lead-up to his assassination or at some point, he had rejected money from Netanyahu and that he was frightful, fearful of the Israel lobby and feared that they would kill him if he didn't do what they said or something in that effect. And all I can say is knowing, I'm not going to pretend like, you know, I hung out with Charlie every single day or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:01:29 I've heard nothing of the sort. I will just say that I reached out to several people and denied every single step of it. Like, that's just, it's just plumb psychotic. It's just fake. It's completely fake. Now, I don't know. I mean, I don't know why they would lie to me about that.
Starting point is 01:01:46 I also don't know why Candace would make a video a picture of BB Nanyahu titled, They Are Lying to Us About Charlie Kirk, and then say that Charlie was scared of Israel or Ian Carroll who posted shortly after he had a viral tweet where he said within 24 hours everyone figured out who did it. It was Israel. Of course, none of it makes any sense. They made these videos where they show Charlie Kirk talking to Ben Shapiro about genocide in Gaza. And it was a typical podcast layup where Charlie said to Ben, what would you say to someone who called what's going on in Gaza a genocide? And then Ben answers. They then zoom in on Ben's face and play music to make it seem like Charlie Kirk had become critical of Israel. He had not.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Charlie, in fact, was making videos where he brought young Gen Z men in to debate them on why Jews and Israel were good and why he supports Israel. So this narrative that's emerged is the weirdest thing ever. Maybe it's for clicks. Maybe it's because people have Israel derangement syndrome. I don't know. All I can say is this. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm just some guy. When I saw Candace Owens and Ian Carroll posting about it, I reached out to several people because we are directly connected to all of them. We've been on TPSA stage three times in the past three years, which requires heavy coordination to bring a show, transport, crew, and all of that stuff. Not only that, we are friends with tons of people who work with TPSA directly coming on this show almost every other day or routinely. And it's just been patently denied by everyone as a fake, abricated story made up. And so I'm like, okay, well, I don't know. I don't know if someone's that well either. I don't know why she would make it up. It's weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:33 I think it's, I think it's just not true. I trust my friends. And I have, I have no reason to believe that the people I know who are saying that never happened. This is fake. Would lie to me. I think there's something beyond just a cult. And I also think the Israel narrative might have something to do with my theory on accelerationism, where they drop a narrative in to just so more discord and make people fight and blame and point the fingers people blaming just one community this other community. And I think a lot of the goal with accelerationism is that's the chaos. They know how things will be interpreted online. They know who's going to say what. So they just point the fingers and things fall apart. Yeah, like Sneco is saying that's what they wanted.
Starting point is 01:04:12 They wanted the left and right at each other's necks. That's what they wanted. Well, I don't, yeah, I mean, we know. Ambiguous they. to me they right now would be there's larger factions within the government deep state types that did things like Operation Gladio or Condor years of lead who go undercover in these chat rooms to radicalize people you know that's been we've seen that over the years yeah well I just think at this point like if you had your Israel narrative locked and loaded you're just like three four days after the shooting you're just not on the team because it's like we have an opportunity here to find crushed this leftist death colt and then now you're trying to like do a bait. They're protecting the left. Yeah. I don't care about Israel. I don't want to fund Israel. I don't care what Israel does. Let's cut off all funding and severed size of them 100%. How does that sound for you guys? Let me stand alongside everybody who hates Israel and say, we're going to cut off ties to Israel. They're on their own. They get no more money from us.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Don't know, don't care. Now, why are they defending the left? Why are they running cover from somebody who all indications is trans identify trans a trans ideologue all of a sudden they're saying hey don't look over there look over here at this other country halfway around the world it could be because anything that could be used to weaponize anger against Israel is part of their strategy I guess I don't know I find it weird that at the same time as I can say hey stop distracting from this story about a left-aligned individual who assassinated a prominent conservative, they then say, I'm a Zionist. They say, Tim Poole supports the Jews or Zionism, whatever, when I can literally say in the same breath, cut off all funding, sever all ties, and they can do whatever they want,
Starting point is 01:05:58 we're out. Nope, that's not good enough. That's why I think it's fake. Because if I come out and say, I advocate for the U.S. to cut all funding 100 percent from Israel, don't want to be involved, and they still call me a Zionist, and they still call me pro-Israel, you know they're not serious in their line. Well, the people that are like that, that are bringing up Israel all the time, to say you don't support them isn't enough. They actually want the U.S. to just help the Palestinians destroy Israel. Like really, they really do want to see Israel destroyed so much
Starting point is 01:06:29 that they're like, the U.S. should start bombing, you know, the Israelis because of all the terrible things. Because the point is they hate Jews in Israel. So when you say, oh, well, you know, let's just forget it. I don't want to give them money or whatever. That's not good enough because you have to hate the way that they hate because that's what it's based. I don't think they all hate Jews, though. I think you can't oversimplify it. They hate Israel. I don't think hating Israel. You can hate the government and still like Jews.
Starting point is 01:06:53 They still, but they want to say they want to hate U.S. involved in military action against Israel. That I disagree with. I just want to walk away. There is an issue in that there are certain people who are critical of Israel, as anyone is allowed to be. There are certain people who just hate Jews. And the people who hate Jews will always take an opportunity to overlap with those who hate Israel. and so intentionally obfuscating the argument. So that way it becomes challenging when you've got somebody whose real motive is hating Jews just masquerading as an anti-war
Starting point is 01:07:23 or anti-interventionist personality. It's just the flip side of the same people when Kirk went down and people were upset about it, people that were apolitical. And then they would literally, and you don't believe it's good to a comment section of a normie Instagram account that was announcing the death.
Starting point is 01:07:39 And people would be like, but all these children dying in Palestine like what about that and it's like okay yeah that's sad but some of Charlie Kirk right now but the flip side is the people that are instantly like oh Israel did this yeah it's Israel let me just change the conversation from left versus right
Starting point is 01:07:53 and turn it into a geopolitical argument jingly keys man yeah yeah precisely keep your head off the actual task at hand let's what's bicker about that's all it is yeah they're trying to they're just trying to like change the narrative hey hey look you know that's what it is it's straight out what it is and um
Starting point is 01:08:08 I think it's weird You see so much, you see so much of this, Brian. I'm honestly, you're sick of it. It's pro-democrat, right? The leftists in this country hate Israel. Yeah. And they obfuscated the shooter's motivation or ideology. Then other people came out immediately blaming Israel, once again, aligning with the left on hatred of Israel, and, again, obfuscating the identity or the motivation of the shooter.
Starting point is 01:08:39 I just find it to be kind of over the top, completely obvious. Like, I got to be honest, you know, when, like, I think it was like Jackson Hinkle or whatever, had a tweet where he said that GTA was Israel or Zionist or something. People are like Timmy's joking, and I'm like, okay, I got maybe, but when people can't figure that out because he does stuff like that all the time, it almost feels like it's so overt and over the top, it actually makes you question whether they're serious when they say it. Because you're like, is this a joke?
Starting point is 01:09:07 in what reality did Israel kill Charlie Kirk? I don't understand that that's the craziest thing. I mean, if you came out and said that Russia did it, I'd be more likely to believe you. If you were like, oh, yeah, you know, because he was in Trump's ear on war plans or something. I don't know. I just see there's a more believable,
Starting point is 01:09:28 more simplistic way of looking at it. It's just, there's a more obvious option here. There's a radical group of people in this country that just want someone dead. And that's what it is. That's what it's it. We've had a deterioration of discourse, a divide that's grown to a valley. Why do you have to jump into this is a foreign nation's fold or this is this, it's obvious, mate. It's a radical group of people that want people dead. It's the deterioration of discourse and just polite society.
Starting point is 01:09:54 And we're seeing it in real time. We felt it all these years of you guys longer living in America. I've only been here three years, but you can feel it. So it's, to me, I just think it's just an obvious answer. It's just some crazy dude, a part of a crazy agenda that's taking over. And I get it. I'm a little reluctant to judge whatever right now and take any answer at its face value, knowing how, like, even RFK Jr. doesn't believe the assassin that we have killed his father. You know, you look at Lee Harvey Oswald and the CIA was tracking him all over the place. So it's like the answers, when they come so easy, I'm a little reluctant to believe like, then that's it. I can't just be confident. Then also a bit of healthy skepticism is always great too. You can't always just believe because then you're just, the jingly keys. work on you too. They count on you accepting the narrative that makes the most sense. And that's, yeah, and we've seen that track record working in American
Starting point is 01:10:43 history, just general history with war. JFK died in the 60s and we're still not sure. There's a lot of people that, a lot of people were like, yeah, that was, that was, well, the news said it was, you know. Right. You know, and yeah, I certainly, I certainly think a lot of people saying, well, look at this bad thing therefore you didn't speak on, you said earlier, what,
Starting point is 01:11:00 you didn't touch on Gaza. Yeah. You didn't touch on Gaza. Now you're bringing up Charlie Kirk. I'm retarded. And this is my best argument. And I look at it. And I'm just like, mate, two things can be bad at once.
Starting point is 01:11:11 We've had one of the most significant political figures in American history get shot in the neck on, in front of millions of people in HD, 4K. First time that that's really happened in that graphical kind of way. Like, it was just terrifying. And you see that and you're like,
Starting point is 01:11:29 why can't we focus on that? Why can't we put our attention on that? Like, obviously there's bad things happening all over the world. You look at, you know, look in Africa right now with all the slaves and all the, all the people getting killed Christians and all this things. People aren't saying that. It's just diversion, mate. I look at it.
Starting point is 01:11:44 I'm like, this is a very pivotal time in American history. And people say, oh, you got to focus on every. Mate, I want to focus on Charlie Kirk because he died. And that's the way I look at it. And people, people be deflecting all the time. But I think that's what comes down to, mate. We got two comments I want to read. One says, Peter McKay says, how about Tim, you watch Candace's video like I did?
Starting point is 01:12:02 And then you can see that she kind of showed some proof. Sure. Dustin Jones says, Candice didn't say Israel did it. She was saying Beebe was lying by omission about a letter Charlie wrote, nothing to do with his death. Well, certainly, if that's the case, then I apologize if it came off that way. My point was, when you make a video with a picture of BB, because they're lying about Charlie Kirk three or four days after his assassination, and there is a spattering of posts online, particularly with other people like Ian Carroll saying, Israel did it. That's kind of the insinuation by the thumbnail. But fair point. I didn't watch her stream on the map. He said he got into some kind of heated argument in the Hamptons. Right. I saw some of the ex posts. Yeah. Which, of course, it sounds like the implication is.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Yeah. They killed him. Yeah, like, Flentes was going live before the show, saying that he had the smoking gun, or he's addressing the smoking gun, which is like, we don't know. He's saying it's Israel? That's, I mean, you know.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Yeah. Well, I just, I mean, it's like, okay, it's one thing. I'm not specifically addressing Candace or anything. I'm just saying, why are we in a rush to let the left off the hook here? That's just so strange to me Because it's like We have a huge opportunity where the admin can crack down And it's like we're just going to completely let them off the hook
Starting point is 01:13:12 Because of like weird smoking guns that are apparently out there Let's jump to this story from the post millennial Two men arrested after allegedly planting explosive device Under Fox Affiliate News Vehicle in Magna, Utah Okay, I mean that's the news Two men have been arrested for allegedly leaving an incendiary device Under a Fox 13 News Vehicle The men Adib Nassir 58 and Adil Justice
Starting point is 01:13:33 Ahmed Nasir 31 were booked in a judge jail, and face multiple charges including threat of terrorism, excuse me, possessing explosive devices. The device underneath the Fox 13 News vehicle was originally located on Friday and determined to be real, according to officials. The device had been lit, but failed to function. Very American names, right? Heritage American.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Yeah, it's heritage. Old school, really. Utah names. I was watching the news, and if you're wondering what civil war would look like, it's things like this. Most people don't know the story even happened. Yeah. That's what's scary about it. The news today has been dominated so much by, of course, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, as well as, I think Israel's launching a ground invasion of Gaza City or something. This news is just breaking. There's a lot of stuff going on. There's, of course, Russia and Poland drones.
Starting point is 01:14:26 And then two men arrested for putting an explosive device on a news vehicle. You also add the The threats in Annapolis, which resulted in an accidental shooting, you had the threats and swatting calls to all these different universities. And I think what people don't realize about what civil war looks like is, I'm not saying we're in a civil war, but it looks kind of like this. You'll turn on the news and you'll be watching Fox or maybe you're watching MSNBC. But it'll be Brett Bear. And he'll say, in other news, I-95 in Texas was hit by an IED cutting off the flow of traffic. from the south into the eastern regions. So everybody, unfortunately,
Starting point is 01:15:06 one of your strawberries in time for Christmas, but at least we will still have our local fruits and vegetables, but in other news, and then we'll move on. In the event that there is some kind of civil war or whatever, conflict crisis in this country, it's not going to be every state lining up against state. It'll be you turning on the news, and they'll say power is out in Omaha
Starting point is 01:15:27 as a substation was struck by gunfire. it'll be you look at your window and in the middle of the night you hear rustling and then a bang you creep over to your window and take a peek out and there's three guys in armor with guns slow walking down the street and you don't know what they're doing or why and that's it and they're gone it'll be you going to a marketplace and hearing gunshots go off
Starting point is 01:15:47 and then you'll hit the ground and then it'll be it and you won't know why but you'll hear a lot on the news about gas attacks or bombs being detonated and it'll mostly be in a faraway place very few people will actually live in hot zones and this is every civil war in history. Right. Yeah, I mean, the idea that this is the beginning of a civil war is something that like we've kind of been dealing with for the past, or at least touching on. And there's a lot of people that are really critical about, you know, oh, Tim says civil war, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:16:20 But you can't deny that there's been an increase in rhetoric and an increase in violence over the past five years. that's basically I mean as far as I can remember it's not like any other time period in my life and I'm not a spring chicken anymore you know Tim's description sounds like right now to me yeah I mean that is happening all the time when I turn on the news I turned on the news the other day
Starting point is 01:16:46 and every story was about some kind of violence happening and I was just like holy crap a year ago in the same town that Robinson's from a trans kid shot his parents whoa both of them like right down the road must be something in the water must be yeah it feels like to me we've been in ideological war for god knows how long at this point it feels feels like a long time and it's becoming increasingly physical to the point
Starting point is 01:17:13 where people can't ignore it and the way i look at it it's like it's it's obvious mate we've been in war we've been in been in war of politics we've been more of ideology it's been brutal people haven't been able to talk to their family members cutting each other off this is warfare it's mental warfare so the fact that people uh some people i know some people they're shocked that things get physical and i'm like mate i'm can't believe it hasn't got physical didn't get physical earlier and i'm just i'm shocked and it's and that's it's just i just look at it and i'm like that's just it's just another product of this lineage that we've been on it's human nature yeah well it's 60s in this country we're going through it again right now yeah and we're still
Starting point is 01:17:54 trying to get answers from that like malcolm x was shot dead in front of everybody including his kids and his pregnant wife and they have three people in jail well they had three people in jail and they didn't even get the right three people right now his family is just now as of 2021 suing the CIA and the NYPD people never seem to get the right people in these things
Starting point is 01:18:14 they don't so the problem with like today though is it's not tip for tat like it's almost entirely coming from the left so it's like you would need to see a ramping up of like right wing political violence which is just not happening because political violence is inherently left winged You think that, but they think that that's not true because they'll point to J6, and they think, but we know that's probably left-wing violence.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Jay-six is an exoration. Yeah, basically, Jan 6 is like Pearl Harbor. I'm just saying, like, I don't think this is a civil war. I think this is a attack from the left, onto the right. I mean, down the road, maybe it would go tit for tat, but right now the kinetic violence is coming from one side. Well, that's civil strife, then. Sure, yeah. Right, which we are, by most academic assessments, we are in a period of civil strife.
Starting point is 01:18:54 It does not mean a civil war will happen, but I think when Charlie Kirk gets assassinated. everyone can plainly see we're at least in a civil strife period. Not only that, I mean, you go two attempts on the president's life, and then there was the Minnesota lawmakers. Just look at the reactions to be political events. There was the firebombing of Josh Shapiro's house, and then there's, you know, this Charlie Kirk. Like, it's not like there haven't been significant back and forth kind of attacks on different
Starting point is 01:19:23 ideologies from one side or the other. But it's not the same, like when it's in a. attack on a left wing or it's like there's always asterisks when it's an attack on a right wing or it's like everyone endorsing it or when they do give these condemnations it's like there's so many like qualifiers on it or it's like well you know he was this bad guy but we shouldn't kill him i mean i agree like the left does apologize for it a lot more than the right does um but the point that i'm making is that that we are like the whether or not we're in a period of civil strife is not in question no that's oh no that's a hundred
Starting point is 01:19:54 Yeah, yeah, I'm just like, it's not gone kinetic from the right. Last year ended with Mangione. Right. And then the new year happened with the New Orleans terror attack. That should have been a warning, by the way. That should have been a warning. Dude, January 1st was the New Orleans terror attack and the cyber truck blowing up outside of Trump Tower. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Think about all the things that happened since. And so, and like they went into that terrorist's house. And, you know, miraculously his Quran was open up to the page on martyrdom. And they're like, journalists in there. That's a whole other story. It was the weird. The truck guy in, in New Orleans. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:20:25 You know, we've had, and don't even forget about the drones in the sky, that led up to Mangione. We had the guy who fired upon all those firefighters in Idaho, what you're saying in Minnesota, the Catholic Church shooting, and there's other shootings that happened. The same day Charlie was shot, there was a Colorado school shooting. So it's, that is just happening. It seems like it's happening in a much more frequent clip. And a lot of those that, like the school shooting, the Catholic school shooting, that was definitely politically motivated because it was a trans person that was attacking Catholic. Didn't he grow up in a Catholic family or something, something like that? Mom worked at the school.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Some reason to hide it or something. People that hate their father. But again, that person, that shooter was referencing all these other cult-type figures that were mass shooters. And they referenced all of them across the political spectrum. So where it creates a distortion when you hear about it. But to, to Tate's point, the idea that the left, well, the fact of the matter is the left doesn't accept a lot of the things that are actually leftists. Like they're trying to deny that this kid was the leftist.
Starting point is 01:21:28 They're doing everything they can to swear up and down that he wasn't. They wouldn't say that the trans shooters, any of them, are politically motivated, even though they have an ideology that is the exact reason why they hated people and the exact reason why they went after the targets they did. I'm just like, if not that, then what? There's no other reason. Like, there actually isn't. There's like no other reason.
Starting point is 01:21:50 You're a, you know, the Catholic school. What other reason would you shoot up a Catholic school? Saying that the trans shooters that go and shoot up Catholic school is not political is like saying Dylan Roof going to an all-black church and shooting all black people is not political. So if you think he's just a crazy person and that's not political, then I can say, okay, I disagree, but then I would understand why you would say the trans person is not.
Starting point is 01:22:13 But if you think one is political and the other is not, then you're just being dishonest. You know what I'm not is. These leftists, like when it comes to, I'm musician, I'm in the music thing. One thing I hear a lot from leftists and a lot of this left wing culture is that everything is inherently political. I hear that a lot. I hear that. Marks is the personal.
Starting point is 01:22:32 How convenient when it's looking bad on your end, it's not political today. But tomorrow, some guy in a Trump shirt does something or even just wearing a red hat. It's not even a Trump hat does something. It's a, it's a this. It's like a light switch, mate. That's why no one takes them seriously. and that's why there's an exodus it's like the death throws of an insane group of people that's what i that's what looks like and you and going on to your guys's point you said kinetic energy and i love that
Starting point is 01:23:02 but i was looking just all the energy that you're seeing from all this tension that's been happening just look at all the protests that have happened over the past 10 years all the fire all the destruction no one talks about that in in conjunction with this we have had signs the luigi mangioni thing We've seen people die already for political purposes. We've seen people like killings out of spite in the back. People get shot in the back. I'm a Christian. I don't believe anyone should die.
Starting point is 01:23:31 And so when I see people going, yeah, kill the bit. There are much better ways to go about taking care of these problems. That's why we live in the United States of America. Well, like, fundamentally, what you're saying is like they don't kill Charlie Kirk if they think they're winning. They kill them when they're completely demoralized. They feel like the boots on their neck. That's when you strike. It's like a cornered animal.
Starting point is 01:23:49 It's the death throws, mate. It's the death throws, exactly like you said, precisely. So it's like, yeah, that's exactly what's going on. They're not negotiating for them. They don't have the higher ground. This is what you do when you know you're on the way out when you're demoralized. This is the backs against the wall. Let me make sure you never forget me.
Starting point is 01:24:03 That's what it feels like. This is how I look at it. They've always been a death cult, but it's been in the shadows. And I compare it to Ted Bundy operating the shadows for so long undetected. And once he's caught, he jumps out of a window, takes a log and just goes crazy. It's crazy. And then they get them. This, think about this.
Starting point is 01:24:17 I'll go, I'll say one more thing before I'll let you guys take the wheel or whatever. Sorry, I've been talking, mate. But I look at it. I look at these people. Where was I going with this? Oh, shit, I actually completely forgot. Crazy people. Yeah, backs against the wall.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Nope, still forgot. This is why I'm not a podcaster and I just sing songs, mate. I had a good point somewhere and it escaped me, guys. Everyone trusts me. I had a sick point. It was going to be a sick clip for YouTube. It was a great point. I was like, I appreciate you guys.
Starting point is 01:24:46 I appreciate you guys. I didn't hear it. No, no, no, I knew it was good. I knew, like, just we'll cut it and say he had a great point. It was an excellent, but the feed cut out. Yeah, it's weird. You're welcome. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:24:58 We'll round it out with probably the straightforward news of all straightforward news. Post-Money reports, quote, it was me at UVU. Suspect in Charlie Kirk killing gave a parent confession in a Discord chat saying, Hey, guys, I have bad news for you all. It was me at UVU yesterday. We'll play the video. Reports of a confession posted on discord from Charlie Kirk's suspected assassin hours before, after the murder, but hours before his father turned him in to authorities in Utah. This is Washington Post reporting on this at this point.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Justice correspondent David Spunt joining me now live from Washington. Hi, David. What can you tell us? About two hours before he was turned into authorities. according to the Washington Post. We are working to independently confirm this as well, but the Washington Post says that Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old suspect charged in Charlie Kirk's murder confessed, and I want to read this according to the Washington Post, writing on Discord, that social media chat group that the FBI says he used, quote, hey guys, I have bad
Starting point is 01:26:07 news for you all. It was me at UVU yesterday. I'm sorry for all of this, this coming from the Washington Post. Now, this comes as DOJ officials began late last week and over the weekend, looking at the potential for at least one federal charge. No guarantee they'll get there. A department spokesperson declined comment, but a source familiar said investigators are not ruling anything out at this time, especially his online gaming presence, his chats, as we just mentioned. Who was he talking to? Sounds like they're trying to go after on federal charges by his use of the internet. But, I mean, it looks like they got enough evidence.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Oh, yeah. He's on video running away. His dad turned him in. Same shoes. Same gun. Yeah. I'm still reserving judgment. After all, the long history of things that have happened.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Sure. I don't want to feel confident with this person. I want to get whoever it is. I think it's a lot of people, but it's too clean for me so far. And the whole Discord thing, they've gone back and forth with what the Discord is about. Well, Discord lied. clearly so but here's the thing
Starting point is 01:27:14 it's not like the movies people think that if some young guy who has no idea what he's doing managed to get a shot so apparently he was raised in a family that was around guns and he went hunting so he knew how to shoot
Starting point is 01:27:26 it's not it wasn't people keep it's okay people are lying being like you'd be a pro to make a shot from this from 150 yards Google it look it up I saw I've seen little kids make shots like that with 100% accuracy
Starting point is 01:27:38 this is a thing though like when I talk about post reality you can go online line. There's experts saying one thing. Forget the experts. I'll tell you this. We have a range. It's local. We used to go there quite a bit. I have watched a 12 year old. I'm not even kidding. It's literal 12 year old with a bolt action rifle
Starting point is 01:27:51 hit 100% accuracy at about 100 yards. To me, it's the angle he was shooting, if he's at where he was saying over the heads of all those people, I think that is probably a little harder. I mean, I've looked at a lot of people say both things. At 50 yards with iron sights, I don't miss. I've got a 357
Starting point is 01:28:07 Magnum, Winchester. It's one of my favorite long guns. And at 50 yards, I don't miss. Iron sights, no scope. And I'm reserving judgment because I've seen people who say they're experts on guns saying one thing and experts saying a completely other thing. You should also keep in mind, it's likely that he actually missed where he was aiming for. At 200 yards, he was very likely aiming center mass, because that's generally what you do, and the bullet hit him in the neck.
Starting point is 01:28:32 So he actually wasn't trying to shoot him in the neck. Nobody would actually be taking an aim or taking aim at the neck. Even professionals, they would be aiming for the face. which they call the T, which is basically between the eyes. Even that's rare. Yeah, even rare, yeah. But at 200 yards, it's doable for a pro. But for him, he was aiming here, and he got him in the next.
Starting point is 01:28:53 There are two arguments. One is that from the angle, there was actually going to be a lift in that what he was aiming for would actually hit higher. So that argument, he was aiming center mass, and when it fired, it actually went a little bit higher. Because he actually wasn't a particularly good shot. The other argument is that he didn't account for drop and was aiming for the head. Now, only thing I can say is this, forget all the experts. I can tell you this, Shane, I will bring you out to the range. Have you ever, do you have any training?
Starting point is 01:29:18 A little bit, yeah. Right, okay, so I guarantee you within an hour or two, you're going to have 100% of your shots with a scoped bolt action. I still have a lot of questions about just this guy being a lone wolf, a ton. I don't think he's a lone wolf. And I'm still reserving judgment on him being an actual shooter. I think there's too many weird things. How he knew where the tent would be set up when he got there, when did he get there.
Starting point is 01:29:40 You parked in the morning because last time probably was there. No, no, no, no, no, hold on. These events are planned well in advance. You don't know where the tent's going to be. Yes, you do. You think? They have to submit a ground floor plan for security well in advance. So how did you get that?
Starting point is 01:29:51 So, knew somebody. I don't think he was working alone. I'm three hours away. So then the network is that big? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is what I'm saying. Like, this, everyone keeps saying stuff like, and I mean this respectfully, not, but in ignorance.
Starting point is 01:30:08 How could he have known where the tent is going to be? Because two months out, they submitted their security plan to the university. And they said, here's where Charlie will be. And so someone at the school said, it's going to be so cool when Charlie shows up, they're going to put them right in the pavilion, something that simple. So I'm traveling and we're a month out and I'm coordinating with security, travel, vehicle, all of this stuff, a month away from me just going to a new city. So for this, what does it look like?
Starting point is 01:30:35 a young guy radicalized online who has trans friends hears over and over again how Charlie Kirk wants to kill trans people because the left keeps saying and then gets it in his mind
Starting point is 01:30:46 to go and kill Charlie it is also kind of my concern with Charlie's security honestly is that they chose the center of the pavilion right in the middle
Starting point is 01:30:58 creating line of sight from all the surrounding buildings but the truth is Charlie genuinely didn't think this was going to happen, which is sad and kind of crazy, because I got to be honest, neither did I. And we talk about the violence all the time, and I still didn't think it was possible when we do, listen, Alex Stein and I were going to go to a university in three weeks and do quite literally the exact same thing. And we didn't, and we plan this, the plan for this
Starting point is 01:31:27 has been four or five months out. So it's entirely likely that the universe we were going to was well aware of where Alex and I were going to be, where it was likely going to be set up very, very easily. And now we're canceling because of what happened to Charlie. We didn't consider it possible. So you think someone leaks that information from the school to someone in a chat? I don't think you need to leak it. I think it's a public. I think there's a 27-year-old who is coordinating watering the grass with security who said, make sure you don't park anything over here because we're going to have this thing with TPSA and he's going to be speaking here. And he went, okay. And this, it's just everyone knows. It's not compartmentalized. So I think people,
Starting point is 01:32:06 they see these things, they think it's got to be like a movie. How was he, how was the guy caught? Well, let's, let's be honest. I do respect the work that Cash and Dan had been doing personally going out, but he got turned in. So apparently the story is they couldn't figure out who it was. They watched all the surveillance footage. They against the, the advice of other agents, put out the images of the suspect and then the father turned him in. And I guess what happened was the kid said the shooter, I guess the story is, I don't know, and this could be false too. It's still early that he would rather die than go to jail. And the dad physically restrained him until the police could come and get him. And the principal reason, and Bannon and Luke Rukkowski have ragged on the FBI for
Starting point is 01:32:45 this. The principal reason dude got caught was because his family turned him in, not because of hardcore groundwork from the feds. I don't think that's fair. I think they worked really hard in this. But it's actually the simple solution. He didn't really know what he was doing. He didn't really plan. He was telling his friends because he didn't know how to react. It's not that planned out. However, I do agree with you that I don't believe a lot of this when they're saying he acted alone.
Starting point is 01:33:12 You have messages from people on social media that clearly knew what was going to happen. I think he was bragging about it. I think he knew. And then when it came to this Discord stuff, there's a couple potentials. He was talking to people in Discord he had not previously communicated with. or it could be that his trans roommate had been saying, hey, he's going to go do it to these people in advance. So then when he came in, there's a lot of ways we can look at it. I do think one of the more interesting conspiracy theories is that the trans roommate is the actual shooter
Starting point is 01:33:42 and this Robinson guy said these things in discord to intentionally take the fall. Don't know. Still a conspiracy theory. Official reporting is that this guy, in all likelihood is the person who did it for all we know that when they say that here we hear the people need to consider about online messages as evidence social media posts are interesting because they originate from different places in different areas so that's hard to fake however if you live with someone he the this is why i find this conspiracy theory interesting not that i think it's true but it is something to consider the trans roommate is the actual shooter that's the conspiracy theory i'm not saying it's true but how easy would it be for the roommate to go into this guy's
Starting point is 01:34:20 room go on his open his laptop and say it was me i did it and then running to the other room and then go, oh, I'm so shocked. I can't believe he did it. Look, he said it in Discord. That proves it. And Cash and everybody are like, open and shut case. That's why I'm reserving judgment and I just have lots of questions. But I mean, they found DNA on the towel that wrapped the gun that matched the shooter. And that's why I say, and that's why I say, and also considering they said it, I don't know how you prove it to the public, but you trust Cash, right? But that's why I say the Israel stuff, the griper stuff, it's like, whatever, man. That's so circuitous and goes such a weird path to make true.
Starting point is 01:35:00 The trans roommate conspiracy theory is interesting because, of course, they found his DNA. The trans roommate took his towel. It's just not complicated. Someone you lived with doing it. And they have similar builds and similar appearance. And that's why the conspiracy theory exists. Again, I'm not saying it's true. People are going to manipulate you right now with everything they put out.
Starting point is 01:35:18 like we were talking about earlier with that video where you were saying it's not people on the roof there's other people saying it's a palm gun like they're flooding the zone with so much bad information it's impossible to believe anything
Starting point is 01:35:29 the one thing I do find interesting is and this is very difficult is the the 30 out 6 impact on Charlie's a massive bullet and so I'm curious what you think Phil it's difficult to get into detail
Starting point is 01:35:45 but there have been posts online where they say how could a 30 out six make this kind of wound they would have expected some kind of different depends what's in it you can yeah I mean you can look online and see like hunting videos a dude's hunting with 30 out six and when they hit a deer like I someone was talking about oh like it would have blown up his neck and blah blah blah I mean look it I don't know exactly where these people are getting these ideas but
Starting point is 01:36:07 seriously you can go to Google or go to YouTube there's a ton of videos of dudes hunting when a even a big bore like a like a 300 Winchester like which is bigger than a 30 out six like it doesn't explore Well, there's people comparing a watermelon exploding. Yeah, right, right, right. They're thinking that that will happen to a neck. It's a totally different thing. Like, you've got, you've got bone, you've got muscles, don't react the same way.
Starting point is 01:36:31 What's crazy to me about this is that this actually is a fairly simple case. There's one of the original videos showing the dude on the roof. It was someone filming during the event going, and you can hear them go, is there a dude on that roof? So that's why they started filming it. and we got that footage after the fact because they didn't think anything of it until it happened and went oh dude I filmed that
Starting point is 01:36:52 holy crap then there's video footage we've all seen of the dude running across the roof and then climbing down and running away there's the video of the dude walking with a limp
Starting point is 01:37:00 seemingly trying to hide the rifle I understand it's a little bit more difficult for the FBI to release all of the incriminating evidence because they want to build a case against us but I think they've been fairly transparent here's the sad thing I've met over the weekend
Starting point is 01:37:13 I talked to a lot of people I've had people who recognized me It's about three people over the weekend. Ask me if it was real. Not kidding. They said, did that really happen? And I was like, yes. And they're like, for real.
Starting point is 01:37:28 And I was like, I'm on the phone with friends who are crying their eyes out because their friend died. Yeah, this really happened. But there are people who think it was staged, it was faked. There's people posting these videos where they're arguing that Charlie is still alive. It's just wild. They're even getting footage of Charlie's body in the car. after the mortuary's covered him in makeup. They're like, his skin's too yellow.
Starting point is 01:37:51 People are being weird. And the whole plane thing, you guys hear about the plane? Everyone's like, there's this plane that went to Israel. It's just, it's strange, mate. And yeah, especially that mortuary one, people just need to look into it. They cover you in makeup. And your skin changes color. And that's part of the process of embalming, bro.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Apparently, the person who took the private jet flight has issued a big statement being like, we were taxiing. Like, it was me and these people, these are the people that were on it. We have nothing to do with anything. I think for a lot of people it's just hard to believe that
Starting point is 01:38:22 it was so simple. A radicalized guy penetrated security and ended the life of this giant. I don't think people understand because
Starting point is 01:38:38 I think the reason people want to believe in conspiracy in the story is because it's hard to believe that one, it's hard people to believe Charlie is gone those who actually liked him or cared about him and for a lot of people they don't want to believe that any day
Starting point is 01:38:52 at any point you could be walking on the street you get on a subway train and sit down while you're on your phone and a man behind you will jump up and knife you in the neck three times people don't want to believe that's possible that couldn't happen to Charlie but it does
Starting point is 01:39:04 all right also just one more thing I just feel like there are also a group of people who don't want to see this investigation end there are a lot of people who take joy in massacres and just they enjoy the process of figuring it out. And they like to create, like you were talking about with the red string.
Starting point is 01:39:22 They like to create these tapestries of ideas and things like that. And to me, you know, I see them. You know, you see them online. They're like, but it's going to be this. It's going to be, I see a lot of people take a good amount of joy in seeing things unfold. And they don't really want the drama to end. And I feel like people forget about people like that a lot. You see them everywhere, you know.
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Starting point is 01:40:29 Thank you for doing what you do. Really do appreciate it. And I will just stress to these leftists who are claiming that the right doesn't fear death. We have very serious security issues all the time. We have security guards frisking people. It is crazy. it's it's absolutely crazy nonstop
Starting point is 01:40:46 Shane H. Wilder says thanks to all who joined the ex-prayer space for Charlie Sunday or listened later it was worth losing my voice for side-up Texans chose a moment of silence
Starting point is 01:40:56 for all victims of violence and the floods Tim I'm going to run out and do my show but I want to say everyone confronted evil this past week and it was nice
Starting point is 01:41:06 to see churches overflowing with people because they couldn't deny the fact that evil is so present in this fallen world. So God bless to all you guys. We'll be at Inverter World Live at 10 o'clock tonight. See you guys later. And it's time to bring back exorcisms. Mass exorcisms.
Starting point is 01:41:22 And everyone's responses, Tim, they still do them. I know. I'm saying, make, do more. Way more. All right, see you guys. Get these ghouls out of here, mate. All right, shortwave says, with all the violent rhetoric, I would like to ask the guest his views on the amount of drop bear attacks. Let me guess who you're talking about, mate. You're talking about me? Drop bears only attack. tourists, mate. Never seen them. They only attack tourists who drink Fosters, mate. So watch out. Love the drop bears, mate.
Starting point is 01:41:51 I heard you guys don't actually even have Fosters in Australia. Is that true? That's actually, yeah, it's true. So basically what Fosters is, it's a novelty beer. I don't know if it was a beer that Australians drank originally, but we drink, we have state beers. We have VB. I grew up in Victoria, a small town called Bendigo, Countrytown. You drink VB there. Some places will drink Great Northern. Some place will drink 4x Gold. but there is a beer called Fosters that is renowned across the world for being Australia's beer
Starting point is 01:42:17 really all it is it's a tourist beer for British people. There are more people in the UK that drink Fosters and drinking at bars and in the entire of Australia. No one, you don't see it on tap but you don't see it anywhere, mate. So it's all a lie, mate. Don't fall for conspiracy theories. I love you. I love you, Giordano's
Starting point is 01:42:34 but I'm going to say that about Giordano's in Chicago. Deep dish pizza. You go to the average person who's never been to Chicago or not from Chicago, and they think pizza in Chicago is all deep dish. And they're like, oh, yeah, I don't like Chicago pizza. When in Chicago pizza is actually all tavern pizza. It's all thin. Is that like the stone oven shit? No, no, it's just thin crust that's kind of, that's kind of firm, and it's cut in squares. Oh, I like that. I had that in Chicago when I was there on tour last year.
Starting point is 01:43:00 That's what it was. That's like 99% of pizza. But then everyone thinks that Chicago pizza is this big pie because-sauce-sau-sauce thing. It's not necessarily soupy. What they do is, it's a, It's a, the crust is like this tall, and they put a bunch of cheese in it, put dough over the top, and then put sauce on top. And so it's this thick pie, and it's for tourists. Right, right. Pizzeria, that's a similar thing then. Unos, Pizzeria Unos. We actually got an Unos out here.
Starting point is 01:43:25 It's delicious. I do like it. But in Chicago, when you're like, let's order a pizza, you're going to get a large, thin crust. Here's the crazy thing. People don't understand. New York pizza, the crust is like lifted up, right? It raises. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:38 You order Papa Johns. You get that thick crust on the end. Doey. And then you can stuff it with cheese. Yeah, Chicago pizza can't do that. Chicago pizza crust doesn't rise. And it's as thin as the rest of the crust and it's like a cracker. It's like almost like a shortbread.
Starting point is 01:43:50 It's like dense. Yep. Interesting. Yep. See, I think I've had something similar that. I was in Chicago, you know, like this is a change of subject. Sorry for anyone who's from Philly, mate. The only American staple food that I can't bloody do, mate, is that Philly cheese steak.
Starting point is 01:44:04 I love my Philly people. Got a lot of fans in Philly. But seriously, mate, it's like this dinner roll with this meat. and some cheese whiz on it, bro. I'm like, America, what? The cheese whiz is the wrong way to go. There are people in Philly that say... What do they say, whiz, wit?
Starting point is 01:44:20 Yeah, they say wit-wis. But, like, and that's the wrong... You go with the... Provalon. There are, like, some people get... There are people in Philly that will swear up and down that it's not a Philly cheese steak unless it's cheese whiz.
Starting point is 01:44:34 I think that those people are evil. They're the devil. And you shouldn't listen to them. You're responsible for the full of society. Go with the provolone. The provolone is delicious. They are good, mate. We don't have much provolone.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Provalone's a sciop. Stick with the cheese whiz. What? Whoa. They're sciops. Controversity. It's like, yeah, this fed cheese. You're not from Philly, are you?
Starting point is 01:44:55 No, but I'm going to stand up for the Philly heads. Memphis. And we have a lot of tourist traps there. Yeah, it's, you know, but Trump's going to say. You guys aren't allowed to have cars. They just end up with that wheel. It's true. We're cinderblock Americans over there.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Usually people from Memphis have better opinions than that. Well, I don't know about that. All right, let's read some more. David Flores says if you allow your kids to follow destiny, you should be arrested for child abuse. Facts, that's a great one, that's a guy I want, mine. Yeah, was it, who sent me the messages from his kid?
Starting point is 01:45:23 I did. That was Phil. Was I like? Some tweets from Destiny's kid that just are brutal to see. Saying he doesn't love his mom or his dad, and he had to raise himself because his dad abandoned him so he could sext women online. He sounds like a solid block.
Starting point is 01:45:38 Yeah, sounds like a good dad. You can judge a man based on how he treats his children. I mean, the kids got legitimate grievances, you know? Oh, yeah, I'd be pissed at him. If my dad was Destiny, I'd honestly, I wouldn't tell anybody. Not only is his bad destiny, but Destiny abandoned him. Imagine your dad being the cuck Lord Destiny, mate. But then Destiny abandoning you.
Starting point is 01:46:02 That's just like, yeah, that's not. That's not a thing that I can see why you'd be angry. My dad's name is Destiny. Like, what are we doing? Well, it's Stephen. Yeah, but, you know. That's it. Even if here's Morgan.
Starting point is 01:46:14 He looks like a bit of a Steven, Stephen. It does look like that. All right, let's go. G.I. Jeep says anybody got the number for a good national divorce attorney? Hello. We don't ta-ta, but to-ca. Just because on free says, remember the polls that said 55% that said they were okay with the killing of Donald Trump? A majority of Democrats are beyond unifying with.
Starting point is 01:46:33 Yep. Fact check true. That's true. There was signs. There was signs so early on. And I feel foolish for not. the signs and really like getting prepared mentally for what was to come. Because we saw death and predictive predictions of death and celebrations of near death
Starting point is 01:46:48 for the past. Luigi was the litmus test. Oh, that was like that was like that was the warning. That was like, hello, people are dying. That was, yeah. Misfit Brad says 5150 laws in every state, involuntary commitment to an asylum. Because this is literally not reality. These people are out here having full schizophrenic episodes like it's normal criminal threats too.
Starting point is 01:47:07 I agree. Yeah. Like, you know, people talk. about needing new laws all the time? No, no, you don't. If somebody is posting online violent threats and they believe things that are objectively false, 5150, they are a threat to themselves and to others, and they clearly are delusional. I asked the mental health professionals on the culture war, what if someone's delusions aren't rooted in brain dysfunction but in being told lies? It doesn't matter. It's still called a delusion. It is still
Starting point is 01:47:35 diagnosed as delusion. So the only problem with that is the left is going to do it. And I suppose it's fair to say, they'll do it anyway. They are going to claim that if you're, they've already tried this. They've already, they've already been leftists that have claimed that if you're a conservative, you have a mental illness. And so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the direction they want to go as justification for why they're going to lock you up. Red flag laws. Yep. All right. Gaius Macias, Macias says there needs to be a deep dive into Twitch. yes yeah I agree
Starting point is 01:48:07 well I doesn't Amazon own Twitch do that the US I didn't know that so we need to hold Amazon accountable for what they're
Starting point is 01:48:14 allowing on that platform because the people who run it clearly are okay with it yeah so everybody's everybody you know let me say this right now to everybody
Starting point is 01:48:22 they're all like finding these regular people and calling their jobs and getting them fired fine whatever I don't care you all need to call Amazon cancel your orders and stop using it
Starting point is 01:48:30 until they until they force Twitch to course correct I don't care if these people are allowed to do their thing and say what do they want to say, not when they advocate for murder. We're inevitably funding the whole operation. So to me, I'm just like, I'm going to boycott, boycott, mate.
Starting point is 01:48:45 That's not even in my nature. I'm usually just like whatever, but yeah, man. Serp says the left canceled NASCAR driver Connor Daly in 2018 after his dad had been found to him, I'm adding that, used a racial slur during a radio interview in the 80s. Now they're shocked. They lose their job for cheering and assassination. That's right. That's a great point.
Starting point is 01:49:02 It's canceled culture, Tim. that's that's inherited guilt mate that's inherited what's that like inherited cancellation i don't think i've seen that that's a rare one your dad did something in the 80s therefore right now 2018 you said you're done sailor motico says if you've been paying attention to candis you'd see it's because she has lost her effing mind ethos says tim candis iwens has taken so many red pills she's overdosed she is batish crazy now you're your your fans are brutal well i mean half of them like Candace. I met Candice a couple years ago, went on her show, and I thought she was incredibly intelligent and insightful. I have not watched her show as of recent, so I don't
Starting point is 01:49:44 want to say I know exactly what she's saying, nor impugn her honor, because I don't know. I don't know much. And that's fair. I didn't watch her video. So I still think my principal critique is the thumbnail saying they're lying about Charlie Kirk with a picture of Netanyahu at a time when there's people trying to claim Israel did it. And I've seen some ex posts where The insinuation is that Israel did it, which I think is silly. But, you know, I'm not going to throw away all the work that she's done over one bad video or one video I'm criticizing. But, you know, there you go. I'll take your word for it, I guess. Seraphim says the CIA and government in general have admitted to experimenting on us.
Starting point is 01:50:22 We have no reason to trust the government. You are correct, like in the Bay Area when they sprayed bacterial over a bunch of people and got them sick. Or how about when Facebook was caught running experiments on the political perceptions of individuals by intentionally putting political ideology in their feeds. We're cooked. That's crazy. Lazybone says, Ah, the DNA found in the towel that wrapped the gun, but not on the weapon, does not cooperate
Starting point is 01:50:44 with FBI, but left a note pre-killing Kirk, which is destroyed after, but able to get fragments giving content. I thought the statement about killing Kirk was on Discord. Yeah. Yeah, they found, so they did a forensic search and found evidence of the statement. Right. There's a lot of people that are... Real quick.
Starting point is 01:51:01 this corroborates the foreknowledge of these individuals on social media. The individual had said that they had a chance to do it and they were going to do it. And wasn't it like, didn't they say that message was from a while before Kirk went there actually? I don't recall. You know, it's weird. People look at all these posts and they're like, he had foreknowledge. How did these people know in advance? Then Cash comes out and he's like, he had written a message saying he was going to do it some time ago, delete it, but we found it.
Starting point is 01:51:27 And they're like, nah, this seems too weird. And I'm like, no, it actually makes perfect sense. I was reading somewhere that there's, that there are more messages in Discord that the FBI hasn't released and that they haven't made people. Interesting. Because they want to produce, like, produce. They want to build. Well, they got to go investigate those people in the chat room. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:51:44 So that means that more information will come. So, yeah. I'm just saying the tip of the auspig right now. Chil, the case and all everything. Cool your time. Cool your jets there. By your time. Guys.
Starting point is 01:51:55 Methos says, Tim, part of basic training in the USMC is, is a standing course at 200 meters with iron sights on an M16A2, five rounds, five minutes. I could hit that shot standing. Any veteran can make that shot in their sleep. Yeah. It's not a particularly hard shot. No. And that's why it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:52:17 We've had people come here all frantic and like, not like, I don't say disparagingly, but like excited to be like, and that shot was professional, right? And I'm like, no. People always say that. People always say that. I was like, we can take you out to the range. It's really close. It's literally a five-minute drive.
Starting point is 01:52:35 And you, good sir, who have never fired a gun in your life, you will make that shot with about an hour's practice. I got to be completely honest. They might make it on their first to go. Sitting at a table with a bolt action, stabilized, looking through a scope. Now, the response then is, yeah, but how could he have made it if he was scared and nervous, prone and looking down? I'm like, because he had a month of training?
Starting point is 01:52:57 Yeah. If not before when he was actually just shooting guns with his parents They all say we're conservative and right-wing and push all this stuff Especially since these types of people are actually insane And I don't think they have any kind of we don't we don't have any right to go They're probably nervous I don't think you know he's going to kill a guy I think he's you know he's sitting on top of a roof He's like I'm a killer guy today and think he's like
Starting point is 01:53:18 Oh I but I miss you know he's just like not only that but there's there's a What is it? M-A-O-I inhibitors what do they take people pop a pill before they're gonna go speak because it stops anxiety like beta blockers beta blockers call that yeah i call that three beers but um i'll let you guys talk about the ballistic stuff we don't have guns in australia they um they don't let us have anything so well i mean you're a nation of criminals oh yeah well of course you guys are rebels where the criminals mate omega rossetza says no phil bullet drop he was aiming for the face and it went low and he wasn't using the drop compensator marking on the scope. In fact, the Mouser isn't that accurate with a M.O.A of three out of the box.
Starting point is 01:54:00 So what an MOA is, or three MOA is three inches at 100 yards. So at 200 yards, it would be a variance of six inches. I mean, look, maybe you could be right. I don't know what was in his head. I don't know where he was aiming. People were saying he likely zeroed at 100 yards, which means the scope was configured to be accurate at 100 yards, and this was 150, so he didn't compensate for bullet drop, which at 150 yards would be 1.5 to 2 inches. And also, if you're aiming down, there's a variation as to a point of aim, point of impact. So there's a bunch of stuff that could go into it. I don't know where he was actually aiming. I'm just... And I think it actually makes sense if you were to argue that he wasn't professional
Starting point is 01:54:42 who's amateur because he aimed for the head. And I think, you know, a professional hitman or sniper is going to go chess, I'd imagine, right? Yeah. I mean, Well, it depends. If it's a pro, and he's got, like, good equipment, he can decide to put it in his nose if he wants. But if it's a dude with the- Especially at that range. Yeah, because the 200 yards isn't far.
Starting point is 01:55:01 But if you're, you know, if you're not a pro, it makes sense that you would be aiming center. Real quick. I wonder if the people who are saying that have ever been on a football field. I'm honest question. Because, you know, like, when I watch football games on TV, I was like, it's a big field, wow.
Starting point is 01:55:16 And then I got invited to the LA Coliseum, and I went down there. I was like, wow, this is tiny. Yeah, it's really small. It's really small and thin. It's strange, yeah. I kicked a 30-yard field goal. Hey, congratulations.
Starting point is 01:55:25 Well, we all did. I mean, a bunch of guys. I'm not saying we did it right away. We all took a crack at it, and we are like, you know, we got it. Yeah. But that's representative of, like, how little training and stuff it takes to hit the target from the leg. 30 yards is not far. Not let alone a, let alone a settled weapon that's with a scope and all the attachments that allow it to be super stable.
Starting point is 01:55:45 I was actually, I was actually surprised when I was saying on the field that, like, 30 was a lot shorter than I thought it was. Yeah. The TV makes that long, mate. It makes it look long on the football field. But you go there, it's just like, whoa. Yeah, like, actually, this building that we're in from front to back is more, is about, it's 33 yards.
Starting point is 01:56:02 No way. Yeah, right. Interesting. Yeah. And we chuck stuff across the building easily. It's not very big. Hey, rugby field's a bit longer than that, brother. You're South African, right?
Starting point is 01:56:13 Yeah, brother. Come on now. All right. Let's grab some of these super chats over on YouTube. Make sure we get you guys. Joe Spinell says We shall have peace When the left answer
Starting point is 01:56:23 For the sacking of the Westfold And the children that lie there Is that a reference of something? I don't know J.D. Vance probably? I don't know. J.D. Vance. All right. Give them a chance.
Starting point is 01:56:37 Elaine says Ask AI to see if the ADL consider Antifa as left wing. I have argued with GROC so much about ADL bias and its use as a base for fake stats. And it's really funny too because JetGPT and GROC
Starting point is 01:56:50 like so obviously lie to you. Yeah. It's remarkable. You're like, ask it about George Floyd and then ask about Charlie Kirk and you're going to be like, why the double standard? Robot? Weird.
Starting point is 01:57:03 You'll be like, you lie and they're like, yeah, my bad. Sorry about that. Yeah, dude. I do that, dude. Yeah, I know. Here's what you wanted you to do. Ask it about James O'Keefe and then ask it about how
Starting point is 01:57:14 you ask Chet-GPT about James O'Keefe and Alex Jones. Then ask ChachyPT about how it was accused of goading a teenager into committing suicide, and you will see it reacts like a frantic person who was slighted. It's amazing. It'll be like Alex Jones was accused of this. That means it's true. And you'll say, well, it's not true. It's just an accusation. I'll say, yeah, well, it was reported.
Starting point is 01:57:34 It's true, so it must be. And I'm speaking figuratively. It'll give you Chachypte language insinuating truth. Then when you ask it about how it's reported to have goaded a teenager to committing suicide, it will immediately go to defense and say none of that is true. It was an accusation that has not been proven in court, and so long it's not been proven in court, you can't act like it's true. That's freaky, especially since the young generations
Starting point is 01:57:54 are becoming more dependent on AI as their Google and just as their general knowledge base. Have you seen some of these kids at school, apparently, like nowadays teachers, you know, trying to ban chat GPT because all these kids are just doing all their tests with it. Oh, it's worse than that. So, but think about that.
Starting point is 01:58:07 You think about all the, maybe it's biased, maybe it's just errors, I don't know, but just the general backtrack. It feels like a human who's intentionally messing with you, and the kids are looking at that as their truth. The teachers are actually making the tests on ChatGBTGPT. The students are then using ChatGPT to finish the tests, and the teachers then grade the tests with ChatGPT.
Starting point is 01:58:26 So no one is actually learning. No brains, yeah, man. Well, you look at, bro, in Australia, we got newspapers. You know how you can tell with the ChatGBTBT, Paster Techs have those dashes? They got those... M-Dash, dude. Who uses that, apart from a robot? It's the correct form of grammar.
Starting point is 01:58:42 But I've been seeing whole newspapers, especially in my hometown. They'd be using it. I'm like, so is anybody real anymore? You know, you speak to a journalist. It's like, what do you do? He's like, I'm looking for a job, you know? There's not many journalists who are out here who got jobs, you know? It's crazy, but yeah, chat GBT, mate, techno overlords.
Starting point is 01:59:01 Let's see what we got. Tessa Lynn says, my center left son, 32 came kicking and screaming to the right over the progressive response to Charlie's death. That's why I was like, maybe destiny is actually just like a griper, and it's an act. and the reason why his kids are Groyper is because he raised him to be and it's all an act and I'm like if you want to convince a moderate liberal at the left are liars
Starting point is 01:59:24 and evil all you got to do is show or Destiny's show show her or him and they're going to be like yeah I don't want anything to do with it yeah and so he's like doing a big favor for the right by saying
Starting point is 01:59:34 quote if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive Trump should not have been president in the second term man that's a crazy quote that's the wildest thing I think I've heard for a while Yeah. It's just ridiculous. I don't understand how you could make that in good faith and not expect anything crazy to come from that. I reckon personally, I think he has like a brain problem where he can't think before he speaks. So he does that a lot, dude. He just rattles off, says the quiet part out loud all the time. Is that what they say? Spurgs out? I spend too much time touching grass. I don't play video games or nothing. So I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 02:00:08 All right. We'll grab one more. Oops. Says Tim, I hear what you were saying about Israel being a red herring in the Kirk assassination. But Candace opened up about how closer her and Charlie were to one another. Quote, we took over 200 flights together. Absolutely fair point. I did not know Charlie that well. I consider him a friend. But I want to stress this. I said every time it's not like I called him to go golf or anything like that.
Starting point is 02:00:30 I literally texted him a week ago. You know, he had texted me with words of encouragement in the past. And we worked together on a certain projects. I knew that I and my team could rely on him and his team. And so I consider him a friend. he wasn't just some guy that I had met one time or anything like that. So I absolutely, again, I want to stress, I like Candace. I don't watch a lot of her show and I'm careful.
Starting point is 02:00:54 I will say, fair point, I'm critical of that thumbnail because it doesn't insinuate that Israel did it or something in that effect, but I didn't watch it, so I'll give her that. But there are certainly many people I would more heavily criticize overtly and easily, but all I can say is that when I've, the interactions I've had with Candice, she's been insightful and intelligent and, If I don't know, I don't want to insult her having not watched a video. That's not fair. So I'll put it as much after this. Yeah. But some other people made those posts about Israel that were overt. Right.
Starting point is 02:01:23 And again, with all due respect to Ian Carroll, I like the guy as well. But I messaged him when he posted that Israel did it. I'm like, come on, bro. All right. We're going to go to the uncensored members-only show. So join our Discord server at Timcast.com. We want you to join us to be a part of this conversation because you can call in and talk to us and our guest. and head over to rumble.com slash Timcast. IRL. That's where it will be. Join Rumble Premium.
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