Timcast IRL - WAR HAS BEGUN w/ Seth Holehouse

Episode Date: March 3, 2026

Phil, Tate, and Elaad are joined by Seth Holehouse to discuss the US striking Iran and war erupting in the Middle East, a mass shooting in Austin, TX that could be connected to the recent strikes on I...ran, and Marco Rubio saying the US attacked Iran because Israel was already planning to strike Iran.   Hosts:  Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) Elaad @ElaadEliahu (X) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest: Seth Holehouse @Maninamerica (X)

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Starting point is 00:01:32 Let's see. Where is it already? Senior officials are saying that there's attacks on Saudi Arabian embassy. Secretary Marco Rubio had some remarks that have got a lot of people worked up. We're going to get into all of that tonight. Three fighter jets have been shot down over Kuwait. Now that's a friendly fire episode. No lives were lost in that one.
Starting point is 00:01:58 So we're going to be talking about that. There was actually a terrorist attack or what is likely a terrorist attack already in Austin. The gunman wore property of a la hoodie. So people are obviously up in arms about that. The Strait of Hormuz is closed. There's so much stuff to talk about tonight. The Strait of Hormuz is closed. And this is going to affect all of global trade, obviously.
Starting point is 00:02:23 There's a bunch of talk about China's involvement in this or what kind of effect. it's going to have on China. The Israelis have space lasers. Well, they're not actually space-based, but they are using directed energy weapons against incoming missiles. There's a big old earthquake swarm in Nevada's nuclear top secret base. That's where they were testing weapons. So there's a bunch of allegations that the U.S. has initiated, nuclear tests again.
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Starting point is 00:06:12 So joining us to talk about the stories that we have discussed a little bit, we've got a lot of stuff that's developing and stuff. But joining us to talk about these and all this stuff tonight is. is Seth Holhouse. Yeah, thank you for having me. This is quite an honor to be on the show. I've watched it a lot. And here we are. So there's definitely a lot to cover tonight.
Starting point is 00:06:31 So who are you and what do you do? Yeah, so my name is Seth Holhouse, as you said. My main thing is I've got a podcast called Man in America, which rumbles my main place. I'm very censored on YouTube still on there. So I cover a lot of the same things you guys are covering here. I tend to look kind of like, okay, what's behind the veil, like where are the puppet strings at,
Starting point is 00:06:50 trying to figure out what's really going on, how the secret society is playing into things. And that's just where I tend to go with my kind of investigated coverage. But I do a lot of interviews, a lot of commentary. But yeah, that's my main thing is The Man in America podcast. Awesome. Well, thank you for joining us. Elad is here. Good evening, everybody.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I am Alad Eliahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast. And I am proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the men who died. who gave that right to me and I'll gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today. Because there ain't no doubt I love this land. God bless Israel. It's an honor to be on tonight. Obviously, we have a lot of exciting news and it's a good day to be an American.
Starting point is 00:07:47 So true. How's it going? This is why I love Timcast. I were agile like cats. Just me now. Anyway, I'm Tate Brown. You're holding it down. Patriot, real Patriots out there. One of the biggest Trump shills working today, and I do actually, I have some concerns with the Irish strike for the record. So we'll probably get into that, Phil. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:08:05 Oh, Carter's here. Yeah, I mean, I can't follow up that at all. But lovely voices, everyone. I'm Carter Banks here. Pressing the buttons tonight delivering you guys a good podcast. So, Phil, let's get into it. All right. We're going to start with a little bit of the timeline from Reuters, top U.S. General Outlaw. initial timeline of U.S. military operation in Iran.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Top U.S. General Dan Cain, Dan Raisin Cain, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on Monday gave an initial timeline and some details on the start of the U.S. military operation in Iran. So far, four, well, at the time of the writing, it was four, but they've actually up the casualties to six. U.S. service members have been killed and four others remained seriously wounded, the military has said. As of February 827th at 3.38 p.m. Eastern time, the U.S. Central Command, received the final go order from President Donald Trump Operation Epic Fury is approved, no abortes, good luck.
Starting point is 00:08:59 U.S. forces made final preparations, air defense batteries check systems to respond to Iranian attacks. Pilots and crews rehearsed strike packages for the final time. Air crews began loading final weapons. Two carrier strike groups began to move towards launching points. The first moves were made by U.S. Cyber Command and U.S. Space Command, which worked to disrupt, degrade, and blind Iran's ability to see, communicate, and respond before the attack began. February 28th, at 1.15 a.m. Eastern time, which is 9.45 a.m. Iran time. More than 100 aircraft from land and sea launch forming a single synchronized wave. The daylight strike was based on a trigger event conducted by the Israeli defense forces enabled by the U.S. intelligence community. This was an apparent reference to Kainz to Israelis' surprise strike on Iran's supreme leader Ali Kami that was aided by U.S. intelligence. All right. So we're going to get into a lot of the things going on. And first off, we're going to talk about the death toll because one thing in the United States, the American people, don't really take kindly to is Americans coming home in bodybacks. This is the biggest fear that America has.
Starting point is 00:10:10 We're extremely concerned with losing lives. I said last week, the U.S. is generally accepting of airstrikes if there are no casualties. And you can see that kind of the evidence for that in the Venezuela operation. The fact that the U.S. went in, did what it wanted to do. No Americans lost their lives. So the approval rating on that was something like 80% or something, 75% of Americans were like, well, that's okay, you know. But we're in a conflict now that is by the president's own admission going to be something longer. It's not going to be like just the strikes on Venezuela.
Starting point is 00:10:54 The president has already alluded to a expectation of casualties. And within the first couple days, we had an Iranian missile strike. I believe it was the U.S. Navy installation in Saudi Arabia, I think. And that's where six U.S. service members died. So I'm wondering what you guys think about that, you know, the fact that this is already off to a start where there are Americans that have died. Well, I mean, I think Trump said, he's now saying it's going to be four weeks roughly.
Starting point is 00:11:30 And it's just whenever I hear these things coming from anybody in the government, it goes straight back to that. Okay, it's two weeks to slow the spread. All right. It's four weeks to save your grandma, right? It's the same thing. And so, I agree with what you're saying, though, is that when you've got potentially boots on the ground,
Starting point is 00:11:51 which means... Well, I don't know. I don't know about that. And the reason, and I'm going to push back on that just because if you look back at the way that we staged before the invasion of Iraq,
Starting point is 00:12:01 if you look back at the way that we staged before the first desert storm, it was obvious that there were going to be boots on the grounds. The United States doesn't send in ground forces unless there's a Burger King in a trailer right behind them. The logistics are just not there to say that the, boots, that there's going to be boots on the ground. Now, that's not saying that there won't be.
Starting point is 00:12:24 That's saying that as of right now, talking about boots on the ground is too early. You would see massive buildup, a massive buildup of logistics before you could realistically predict. Actually, you would see some logistics starting to move before you could realistically predict boots on the ground. Now, again, I'm not saying that it won't happen. I'm just saying that I think that it's early to talk about that kind of stuff. Well, and off your initial point, I mean, with the story, the six service members were killed in Kuwait at a base there. And actually kind of steel mans a little bit what Mercurio was saying today about how this strike was actually kind of more preemptive in the sense that they were going to attack us anyway,
Starting point is 00:13:03 so we might as well strike first. And this is, while I say this kind of steel man to a degree, is because the casualties would have been far higher if we didn't anticipate an attack occurring coming from Iran. Again, this is not to sort of say one way or the other if this is a good idea. I certainly don't think so, but the idea. People are saying this is like the service members were killed during the operation. It was actually killed by Iranians striking in Kuwait. Just for, just for clarity, are you saying that the Iranian, you think the Iranians were going to attack regardless of the U.S. attacking?
Starting point is 00:13:35 You think that the Israeli strikes would have made the Iranians attack U.S. installations? Well, I mean, look at what's happening now is the Iranians are striking Gulf states that have zero involvement whatsoever. They struck a French naval base. in the UAE. So, yeah, and the UAE. So, like, yeah, it's, yeah, it's either UAE or Qatar,
Starting point is 00:13:54 the UAE, I believe. So it's like, clearly Iran has zero geopolitical instincts. Very reminiscent. I know people always compare stuff to World War II, but this actually is very salient.
Starting point is 00:14:05 It would be kind of reminiscent of when Japan attacked the Americans at Pearl Harbor. It's like you're just kind of roping in countries that probably otherwise would be slightly aligned, but they wouldn't be all in and out forces their hand to go all in.
Starting point is 00:14:16 So Iran is rallying the entire Sunni Muslim world against them. Because while they certainly are empathetic with the Palestinians, they do not like Iran. So, you know, it's forcing them to pick a side. And when you strike them, they're going to side against you. A lot is this for Israel? No, it's not for Israel, but I will say this was because of Israel. And let me explain, let me flesh that out a little bit more. There's been a total and complete reshaping of Middle Eastern geopolitics since October 7th. Who was the original commander? Yaya Sinwar was the original commander who really led third worldists.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah, astray because this really, again, allowed the reinvigoration of American hegemony, I think, worldwide in the Middle East. And, you know, we're seeing third worldists in shambles right now. But ever since the October 7th war failing to achieve their goals of, I don't know, destroying Israel, Israel has managed to take out Hamas and Gaza. Hezbollah in Lebanon and then... Lebanon's actually, the government of Lebanon has distanced themselves from Hezbollah, which is worth mentioning. They said to the Israelis,
Starting point is 00:15:26 look, take out Hezbollah, but don't take out our infrastructure. And I mean, if I could flesh this out a little bit further, they attacked the Houthis also in Yemen. They also helped assist in... We don't know completely how involved Israel and the Americans were in regime change in Syria, but that happening over the course of the couple of years
Starting point is 00:15:44 preceding this greatly influenced the... Americans and Israelis ability to strike in Iran. So there used to be air defenses in Syria and Lebanon that help prevent Israelis and Americans from flying over and striking the Iranians. But since the Israelis largely defeated our enemies in Syria and Lebanon, it helped facilitate the opportunity to strike straight at the Iranian regime without having to worry too much about blowback from their proxies in different countries. Okay. So from the post-millennial, we're going to talk about this a bit. The death toll rises to six U.S. service members following Iranian attacks on fortified operations center in Kuwait. U.S. Central Command has confirmed that an additional
Starting point is 00:16:25 two U.S. service members were killed in the attack on a fortified operation center in Kuwait over the weekend. This raises the death toll of American service members from four to six thus far under Operation Epic Fury. As of 4 p.m. Eastern time, March 2nd, six U.S. service members have been killed in action. U.S. forces recently recovered the remains of two previously unaccounted for service members from a facility that was struck during Iran's initial attacks in the region. Major combat operations continue. The identities of the fallen are being withheld until 24 hours after next of kin notification sent com reported. Operation Epic Fury was launched by the Trump administration on Saturday, March 1st.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Israel and the U.S. teamed up to attack Iran and dismantle their regime. In addition to killing the nation's supreme leader, the entire command structure was wiped out. It's worth noting the U.S. has struck over a thousand or struck a thousand tariff. targets in the first hours, and I believe at this point, they've struck 2,000 targets. So, I mean, it is something, like, I don't want to, you know, to sugarcoat the situation and not talk about the lives lost. But if I understand correctly, the U.S. has largely taken out their significant air defense, and they're starting to do things like load J-dams, which J-dams are not good if you have
Starting point is 00:17:38 serious air defense, but if you have, if you have the ability to fly high and just drop bombs, j-dams are great. So if that's the case, you know, does this look like a second phase is coming now? Or do you think that this is still something where the U.S. looks like they're going to lose significant numbers of people? And by significant, I mean numbers that the American people are going to find unacceptable. Well, I don't even think we should be looking at this as judging if there's like a certain threshold of casualties that would make those success. And I'm not saying you're saying this, but a lot of people are saying, well, if there's zero casualties like Venezuela, and this is. This is a good thing.
Starting point is 00:18:16 But it literally reminds me of the Libya stuff back in the day where Libya was toppled zero casualties from Americans or the Europeans that were involved. And at the time, everyone celebrated this as a great victory saying, well, this was a worthwhile operation. There was zero casualties. And then the result ended up being a massive problem, quite frankly, for the West, specifically Europe. And so this kind of reminds me of the same thing with Iran. It's like, if they're seriously trying to say, well, as long as we can get the scrolls to finish on it, zero casualties, then this is success. I'm like, the casualties isn't really, I mean, not to downplay what's happening, but it's like, even if it's zero, it's, this is still, it's probably going to results in. It's something, it's going to be unknown what the result is. So I don't know if casualties should be how we define victory or sort of like success. I think that's fascinating because I think the president's been most concerned about that issue in particular. And I think as far as the American public goes, that's what they do care about. I think of the American public would support regime change in Iran so long as it didn't count, didn't cause. many American casualties or require boots on the ground. But when you do move to a position of
Starting point is 00:19:17 boots on the ground and then hundreds of casualties, I think polls show that that's dramatically the other way. So I think that's why the president has been doing this mostly as an air campaign. Same with Venezuela. He was trying to do these quick attacks with our military force and not draw inspiration from prior commanders in chief who would like to stage a nation build. And that wasn't conducive to success for the American military. The American military wasn't built to build nations. It was built to destroy nations. So we shouldn't try to put a square peg in a round hole. So I think that's been the president's M.O., which is why I also believe him when he says he only wants to do this for four or five weeks, has been the loose term. I don't think if he is able to
Starting point is 00:19:58 achieve his objectives in that amount of time, then I think he will pull out, still if he doesn't achieve them. But I think that's the worst case scenario, because I'm not even, I mean, I don't think it's a not, I don't think it's a zero percent chance of happening, but I don't think it's likely that we get boots on the ground. But at worst case scenario is, again, there is like a serious level of intervention. We lose, I don't know, 100, 200 boys. And then we leave and then there's no result. Like we're just back at square one and then like, well, I guess the Middle East broadly is just a bit more destabil. That's a worst case scenario. And then to your initial point, Libya, again, Gaddafi was deposed because
Starting point is 00:20:31 there was a huge local upswell, right? Like there was a huge upswell as the Arab Spring and then they, again, formed like a militia group to go and depose Gaddafi. We didn't really have to get involved. The problem is you have to look at there's two groups in Iran. You have the pro-regime groups and then you have the protesters. Who have we seen on the streets over the last three days? It's been the pro-regime people. These strikes have animated them and these protesters, again, are a bit demoralized, a bit apprehensive. They're nowhere to be seen. The streets right now of Tehran, if you look at all the video, it's all pro-regime. Those are the people that are sort of fired up right now. And so I don't think we can bank on the Iranians having a wholesome
Starting point is 00:21:06 Chung, let's overthrow the dictator, like, you know, the Ewaks. or whatever. We're not going to get that. Like, it's, the situation is I think in Iran, it looks like things are starting to consolidate back around the regime. And so if we are serious about deposing, again, deposing the entire regime in Iran,
Starting point is 00:21:24 then it's going to have the result in boots in the ground. And that's just unacceptable. So it's like the, the victory condition needs to be outlined by the Trump administration. What we want needs to be outlined and we can't have a situation like we outlined where, again, we just keep battering them and we keep losing men. And then in the end, we have nothing to show for it.
Starting point is 00:21:39 That's a worst case scenario. Yeah, I think that if there's a high, if there is a high, and when I say high, I mean by American standards, a high death toll of Americans, I think that the U.S. is going to broadly really be upset, right? Like there are people, like right now I think that it's probably unpopular overall. I think that the Americans will, the American people will accept it if there aren't significant losses. But a lot and I were talking earlier. and if a cruise missile manages to make it through and hit an aircraft carrier and takes it out of commission for a little while, which, I mean, regardless of the likelihood of that happening, if that happens, then the president's in a really tough spot because you don't want to initiate a war and then turn tail and run, because that ruins your credibility, that ruins, that definitely ruins any chances of Republicans getting anything done.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Like they're not like they're going to be, you know, pariahs for ages and ages. And it'll look like the same kind of thing that happened in Iraq. But at the same time, the American people don't have the, we have never seen a, or not, at least not since World War II. Have we seen an American ship significantly hit? And the meme is don't F with our boats. So if there's a, there's an attack on a Navy ship like the Lincoln or something like that, that's successful. I don't think that you're going to see that kind of the American people coalesce and say, yes, let's get them back.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I think there's going to be a lot of people that are going to be real P-Oed at the Trump administration. They're going to be what happened to no more wars, which you've already seen that in a certain segment. But I think that those people are going to be really upset, and it's going to cause real problems for accomplishing any goals, and that's going to hurt America significantly. You know, there's, I feel like a major quagmire, I mean, in a contradiction in many of the things that the president, says, but one thing in particular that he constantly said throughout his time campaigning and while president, it's that Iran will, the regime in Iran will not be allowed to have nuclear weapons. And then at the same time, he says, no new wars and no Middle Eastern quagmire's.
Starting point is 00:23:46 And these can't both be true at the same time if the regime chooses to pursue nuclear weapons and he chooses to prevent them. I think that's kind of where we're at the fork in the road on this conversation too. There's two other things that I also wanted to expand on. Because I asked earlier today, Secretary of War, Pete Hexseth, had a press briefing where I was able to ask him about whether or not we currently have boots on the ground. Actually, hold on. We've got that. We've got that video. We're going to, we'll play that right now. What is it mean to have no boots on the ground? When people hear boots on the ground, hey, let us play the video and then you go ahead and move it. Because it's your video.
Starting point is 00:24:23 It's your video. I had two questions for you. First, are there currently any American boots on the ground in Iran? No, but we're not going to go into the exercise of what we will or will not do. I think it's one of those fallacies for a long time that this department or presidents or others should tell the American people, and our enemies, by the way, here's exactly what we'll do. Here's exactly how long we'll go. Here's exactly how far we'll go. Here's what we're willing to do and not do. It's foolishness. And so President Trump ensures that our enemies understand we'll go as far as we need to go to advanced American interests. But we're not dumb about it.
Starting point is 00:25:01 You don't have to roll 200,000 people in there and stay for 20 years. We've proven that you can achieve objectives that advance American interests without being foolish about it. Now, will we be bold about it? Are we willing to be decisive about it? Do we put months and months of planning into what kind of effects we want to achieve? Absolutely. But going forward, why in the world would we tell you, you, the enemy, anybody,
Starting point is 00:25:25 what we will or will not do in pursuit of an objective. We fight to win. We fight to achieve the objectives the President of the United States has laid out, and we will do so unapologetically. Thank you. So go ahead with what you're saying. A few things. First, I think that was one of the least convincing knows I've heard in a long time.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I think a few things. On top of that, I think the American people deserve the right to know that if the military that they support and their sons and daughters are fighting in, if they are on the ground fighting a war somewhere, which is what the president said that we are engaged in a war, then we deserve to know if there are boots on the ground. Having said that, though, boots on the ground could mean so many different things. If we just have some special operations people on the ground,
Starting point is 00:26:06 boots on the ground, I feel like, implies more military troops than just some special operations forces there. I assume there are, though, special operations forces there. And when people hear boots on the ground, they're thinking large-scale military actions with tens of thousands of Marines there, which I think is what he was trying to avoid saying. He however did not rule it out, which I understand why he wouldn't want to because he still
Starting point is 00:26:30 wants to intimidate the regime. Or I don't know if he's genuinely leaving the option open. The president also said that he is down to send troops over there if need be, but the president also likes to leave his options open. I asked that question in particular. A lot of people were saying it's a dumb question because how is he supposed to answer that if there hasn't been public information about it, though? I just think it's probably the most important issue at hand with how it comes to public
Starting point is 00:26:53 sentiment about the war. A lot more people will support the war against Iran if we don't have boots on the ground versus if we do. I think that's the central question moving forward because that will also be heavily linked to the casualty count that American suffer. Sure. Seth, what's your take on what the secretary of war is so? Well, where my mind's going is my biggest concern is not deaths of American troops in Iran. it's American soil, right? Because this is, the theater of war that we're fighting now is not what it was in World War II, right? Where you have these big ships showing up and dropping troops off and your planes flying overhead. And this is fifth generation warfare, right? It's information war. It's a lot of stuff that is new.
Starting point is 00:27:39 And so my concern is, okay, we know that Iran is, has very heavy ties with the CCP, right, with the BRICS nations. they've got an entire fifth column on American soil, right? A lot of people don't think about that. You go to Walmart, you're passing an Iranian sleeper cell. You're passing a Chinese, quote unquote, student who's actually trained Chinese special forces that's here. That's where my concern is, is domestic. Is Iran going to fire a missile in the United States?
Starting point is 00:28:10 No, it's stupid, right? But like what we saw with the Texas gunman, which I've got some ideas that, you know, that's kind of suspicious for a few reasons, but our infrastructure is so vulnerable, and we know this, right? Our government knows it. If you look at our grid especially, it would be so easy to have a couple of Iranian terror cells in the United States absolutely cripple this country, whether it's attacking a key power station, attacking a key transportation hub. So that's where my concern goes is what's happening with these troops that we know, especially under the Biden administration, we're just walking over the border, setting up shop here in America.
Starting point is 00:28:51 So we're going to jump to this story. I'm going to talk about it. But there's also one question that I want to ask you about that. From CBS News, Texas gunman wore property of Allah hoodie, an Iranian flag t-shirt during the attack, had photos of Iranian leaders at home, sources say. CBS News has obtained a new photo of the gunman who police say killed two people and wounded 14 at a bar in Austin, Texas. The photo shows the gunman, Nadaga Diagni, after he was killed by police. It shows the clothing he was wearing during the attack, including a shirt with a design similar to the Iranian flag. Asked about the shirt at a news conference Monday, Alex Doran, the acting special agent in charge of the FBI's field office in San Antonio, told reporters
Starting point is 00:29:31 that investigators were looking into what connections the shooter may have had. Any declarations on what led to that motive would be premature, Doran said. The shooter was also wearing a sweatshirt that said property of a law during the attack, according to two sources familiar with the investigation. that description matches a photo obtained by Fox News that appears to show the gunman carrying a long gun. Now, I don't think you're wrong in your concerns, but I would say if that is going to happen or if that were the case, if there is so many, you know, sleeper agents here, then why would they not have attacked right after we, you know, basically took out the Ayatollah. I imagine that would be kind of the catalyst. It's like if you're here in the U.S. and you're hiding among the U.S. population, if the U.S. attacks or if they kill the Ayatollah, not just the attack,
Starting point is 00:30:25 but actually take out basically all of the command structure in the first hours, wouldn't that be the catalyst to say, okay, now is the time to retaliate, let's go and attack? Because this gunman seems like he was a lone wolf. That's what it kind of points out right now, at least. Obviously, it's one guy. it wasn't a cell, it was a dude that probably was upset that the U.S. was attacking, and he took it upon himself to go to a soft target, a bar in Austin. What would you say to someone that says, well, where are these attacks? How come they're waiting? It's such a hard thing to answer, right? I mean, it's art
Starting point is 00:31:01 of war, right? It's all deception, right? When you're strong, you act weak. When you're weak, you act strong. I mean, it's this, so that would be the obvious thing, right, is to do that, but is that necessarily what would happen? Like, I don't know. Even when I see this guy, right, this guy, wasn't Iranian. I'm not going to try it Brown's his name, right? But it's like, you know, I mean, call me the conspiracy theories here, but I'm thinking, okay, who is this guy? Does he have CIA background, right? It was it, because it's like, it's happened before, right? You even look at getting into, whether it was looking at Pearl Harbor or a lot of these things, a lot of the times you have these kind of government-sponsored false flag events that help
Starting point is 00:31:43 build public sentiment towards a war. Can't he just be third-worldest terrorist scum? Why does it have to come to... He's a naturalized American citizen, Bournes and Gaul. He still be a third-worldish just because you're... I mean, he absolutely could be, right? There are a lot of third-worldest American, actually, unfortunately. But I think it's worth just asking these questions is because what's behind this, right?
Starting point is 00:32:03 It's tough to say if he would be specifically tied to Iran because if he's from Senegal, that would mean he's Sunni. Obviously, Iran is a Shia country. So I kind of lean towards a Lodz that this is probably a schizophrenic third worldist would be upset with any third world country or non-American, or sorry, non-Western-aligned country being bombed. He was probably equally as frustrated with Venezuela. There's a huge contingent of these people all across the third world who just, again, hate white people. specifically and get really upset when white people do white people things, which is get people online sometimes. So these types of guys just get completely fired up. And that's why I think a little bit of schizophrenia, a little bit of third worldism. It's like you take your pick.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I mean, this guy was a citizen. So I think that he might get passed over with my prescription. But I think that this only kind of adds strength of the argument. It's time to continue or to ramp up deportations of people from countries that don't align with our values, right? Like, I know that there's a lot of people that think that the idea of ending immigration for a decade or two think that's a little too extreme. They think that that deporting people is too extreme. But I really do think that it's probably necessary to start really focusing on getting people that are not American citizens that have come from cultures that don't align with the United States and sending them home. The United States does not have magic soil just because you come here and land on the U.S. doesn't make you into a, you know, someone that loves democracy, that loves a representative
Starting point is 00:33:37 republic. And there is, and the United States has no obligation to allow people that, that hate our way of life and don't understand or, or can't relate to our governmental structure and the way that we live, we have no obligation to allow them to stay. Back, I was one more point to your question on timing, right? You'd ask the timing of would it make sense if right after attack like this, that's when you see these cells activated. And I think that if you're looking at, say, Iran acting in isolation, perhaps, but if you're looking at Iran as being part of a much bigger proxy war and a much bigger war that ties in the CCP, Russia, you know, I think the CCP, as much as we've been focused on, okay, people coming across the border, it's a lot of these, you know, kind of dangerous people from terrorist countries, right, what they call the special interest aliens, right? these people coming in here that they're being flagged, okay, hey, this guy's from Somalia, terrorist background. I think that the big concern I have is the Chinese. There's a lot of Chinese
Starting point is 00:34:37 students that are trained, they're operatives, right? And so in terms of timing, is it, if there's going to be some sort of domestic attack, say a series of coordinated terrorist attacks in America, is it the Iranian leadership that's coordinating that or is it the CCP, right? Because the CCP might be saying, hey, look, all these Iranians are. cells hold off because we've got this event that's going to happen that's going to tie into something with Taiwan, et cetera. So the timing could be something much bigger than just the Iranians retaliating for the death of their own leader. Yeah, your estimation about China, I'm 100% in agreement. I think I say it over and over. China is an adversary. Every single person in the United
Starting point is 00:35:19 States that has Chinese family, that's a Chinese national that has family, all of their family is a pressure point. The Chinese has no compunction with throwing people in jail, torturing people in order to apply pressure to people that are here. Every Chinese person that's here that has family back home, that's not a citizen. If they're a Chinese national, they are absolutely a security issue. And I think that they should all be sent home. Because as long as China is a threat to the United States, I think that they're a vector for attack in some way, whether it be industrial espionage or something like you were saying, like some kind of sleeper cell. I don't know how many Chinese nationals came over the open border when Biden was the president,
Starting point is 00:36:05 but I'm sure that it's in the tens of thousands. And that kind of threat is something that the government cannot ignore. And it's not taking nearly enough action to mitigate that threat. I think this is why, like, okay, we're already at net negative migration. This is why the Trump administration needs to go further and pursue remigration, where you need to start taking a look at these people that have come here in the last 40 to 50 years under this, effectively since the 1960s, they've blown the barn doors wide open on immigration. You need to start taking a look at these people's paperwork.
Starting point is 00:36:34 This is what we call paperwork Americans because clearly this guy, this citizenship didn't do anything for him. The pocketbook constitution didn't do anything for them. We need to start asking questions, what can someone from Senegal offer the United States? Okay, there's exceptions, but exceptions don't disprove the norm. We don't design our public policy off of exceptions. So we need to start taking a look at these countries and saying, there's probably not much they can add by having them on a list. We need to start sort of consolidating who's going to most easily assimilate
Starting point is 00:36:57 into the United States and then go from there and then, yeah, start pursuing remigration for a lot of these people. The fact that we've brought in people in the last 60 years who have very, very, very strong opinions on conflicts that have nothing to do with us already shows that our immigration policies failed. The fact that whenever India and Pakistan went at it, you had fights and strip malls in Dallas. That tells you all you need to know that this immigration policy
Starting point is 00:37:17 over the last post, this post-1960s consensus of our immigration, the way that we conceptualize ourselves as Americans, where we're just an idea, and we're not actually a real nation with the real history and a real shared lineage. It's just absolutely ridiculous, and it's failed us, and we just see, I don't know how many more people need to die before we give up on this retarded experiment. I think one of the most fascinating parts of this story, and if we zoom out a little bit more to the whole Iran situation is, again, it's really fascinating how much of a paper tiger Iran's turning out to be. In the past, we would have feared, the terrorist attacks, we would have
Starting point is 00:37:49 feared was like the Beirut Barracks bombing, or in 1992, there was an Israeli embassy bombing by Hezbollah and Brenasares. And they were these major terrorist attacks. If all that Iran is able to muster up is, you know, a dozen casualties through like a half dozen countries throughout the Middle East, it's kind of an underwhelming. It's actually very underwhelming. I'm considering what the conventional wisdom was surrounding Iran for the longest time. I remember being reliably told that if anything were to happen to the Ayatollah that, you know, Israel would be wiped off. the map. Yeah. Unfortunately, nine Israelis died in a ballistic missile strike in Bechemesh, next to outside of Jerusalem, but all things considered, that's not a ton of casualties. Every
Starting point is 00:38:31 single life that is lost is obviously, you know, dastardly and horrible, and we thank every service member for their service. But again, all things considered of how all these strikes are playing out and the costs that are coming to the regime, it's astonishing how little the pushback has been. So if this is worst terrorist attacks that they could kind of muster, it's very unimpressive. It's fascinating to get how much of a paper tiger that they were and that their proxies were as well, because Hezbollah was supposed to be the person who kind of fended off anybody from attacking Iran, because if you were to attack Iran, then Hezbollah had a ton of weapons, and it was going to cause a ton of trouble in the Middle East. But we really dismantled
Starting point is 00:39:07 all that. We and our allies. One last tidbit on this, because I don't think we focused on this enough. The killing of Ayatollah Khomeini and the significance of that, I do not think can be overstated. This was a regime founded on anti-Americanism. They contributed to the killings of many Americans in the Marine barracks bombing. They also contributed a ton of IEDs to to maim our soldiers in Iraq. I think it's just so fascinating how quickly things have changed. One last tidbit on this, I know I love to glaze Israel on the show, so this won't be coming as any news to anybody. But one of the most amazing things here that I think Israel did, was there how effective they were at assassinating different high-ranking leaders.
Starting point is 00:39:49 They started with Hamas, with Yayaa Simwar, Ishmael Hanea, who was killed in Tehran, rather, and Mohamed Diyah, then they made their way up and to kill the leader of the general secretary of Hizbalah and Hassan Rostrallah. There was almost no response. And now they were able to also kill the Ayatollah. So just the amount of good intelligence that the Israelis have, I feel like can't be overstated. And in the press briefing earlier today, Secretary of War Hexedth mentioned how happy he was to have a capable ally that were not always as American dragging all the military weight in all the battles around the world. It's amazing to have capable allies who actually can do some of the dirty work for us. I think that was a wink and nod to the Europeans who aren't doing shit in Ukraine and maybe some of our Asian allies in Japan and Korea who maybe could be doing more in the Pacific.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Well, I do believe the strike that killed Kamenei, he was, that was using U.S. intelligence. I think it's what Kane said. I think a lot of these are being conducted with U.S. intelligence. I mean, to your point, though, I mean, look, you know, it's not either here nor there in Israel, but it sends a huge wake-up call to our EU. You really think what France would be providing this level of support if we were engaged in? Do you think they have the capabilities to really go down the list of military leaders that? Not only there, the under-secretary, the under-under-secretary, the assistant, the president, the secretary,
Starting point is 00:41:05 So just really, I mean, because Israel's been in fight mode for so long that obviously they're going to be like a well-oiled machine when it comes to these sorts of things. At least since October 7. I'm just so skeptical that I'm just so skeptical. Like you have to think about like all these nation rebuilding projects that have occurred and like the Americans have participated in. These take very, very long times. Iran is a massive country. Again, I know there is this, we've seen these protests and these sorts of things. And there is like a liberalizing sort of force, especially among the youth that's going on.
Starting point is 00:41:35 in Iran, but I'm just so skeptical that this is just going to be an easy. Because look at Venezuela. I mean, Venezuela, it's the same regime in charge. For the record, I don't know if anybody's been keeping tabs on Venezuela. The operation was really cool and everything. But all that we're really looking for, I don't think we're actually going to get a regime change in Iran. I think a best case scenario is the current regime just moderates because that's just,
Starting point is 00:41:54 we don't even engage in regime change in Venezuela, and that's in our backyard. You think we're not past the point of no return in Iran? You think we could mog their Ayatollah, and then the regime will just be like, you know, actually, you killed our high. Shia Islamic cleric, but, you know, we might get over it. We won't issue fatwas again. I agree because you've made that point twice, as you've said, initially the reason this happened in the first place is because Trump's ultimatum was you can't have a nuclear program. And then as we found out in Switzerland and Oman, the one thing that they really want is a nuclear
Starting point is 00:42:21 program. So then war has happened. That's what happens. You know, that's just the natural conclusion when those Bismarck said, like when politics, it's a natural conclusion of politics is war. Politics is war by other means. Yeah, exactly. So we have that. So that was just inevitable. And then in addition to that, I mean, you just see that with Iran, they're just a paper tiger. They really are. They don't have the fight in them.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Maybe Israel just really has that mugging. Israel might have that dog in them. The United States certainly does. So I'm just like, I don't see a situation. I think Iran will just roll over and just say, fine, no, no, no. Because that's what Venezuela is doing right now. And Venezuela is the same thing. Venezuela and Iran, they're both saber-waggers.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I think Iran's a lot more capable. bold in Venezuela, but Iran at the same, there's a saber wagger, the Ayatollah just firing tweets off left and right. It's so refreshing to have a decent capable ally, especially at a time where Qatar says we can't use our military bases in their own country. I don't know what the fuck we're paying them for. When we can't use the own military base that we're paying for in their country, same with the UK actually, you know, one of our closest and oldest allies said we weren't allowed to use our air bases in that country. However, we will use our air defense missiles to defend those countries. So when we have, you know, allies like those, I don't know, do we even need enemies? It's really concerning,
Starting point is 00:43:36 I think, than the Europeans. So when we do see Israel, I think, making such, doing so well, frankly, compared to our other allies, it is refreshing. And I think they appreciate that, particularly in the Pentagon as well. Well, I think Israel had to step up here because I do agree with Rubio's consensus that this is what it appears to be, is that they did start the conflict and sort of issued an ultimatums to the Americans, which is like, hey, do you want to get hit now, or do you want to get hit later and be ready for it? And then we took, okay, well, if you guys are going to do this. So they had to bring their A game.
Starting point is 00:44:05 They couldn't half-bake this. If I could open this up to the whole panel, if anybody had thoughts on this, do you think we're heading towards a fork in the road where if a large amount of casualties are had, the president would decide to double down or would decide to wash his hands of this completely because the American public wouldn't be able to stomach,
Starting point is 00:44:25 maybe hundreds of American service members dying in their line of duty? My opinion is the only way out is through. If they don't complete the mission, then the whole presidency is going to be looked at his failure. He's got bad. His approval ratings are lukewarm as it is. If the United States initiates a war and then runs, gets, you know, tucks tail and runs, that will be the end of Donald Trump's presidency.
Starting point is 00:44:56 He will not be effective. and he will be looked at in history as a failure. And all of the bad things about Donald Trump that people have said, they'll all stick. He wasn't ready for the prime time. All of that stuff. Nothing else that he has done will matter. Every negative comment they've said about him
Starting point is 00:45:16 will stick to him like glue, and that will be his legacy. So I don't think that he has the option and I think that he knows it. And that doesn't mean he's going to be successful. That's not me saying that he's going to definitely win and blah, blah, blah, blah. But I think that the public perception and the way that history will look at him,
Starting point is 00:45:34 if he turns tail and runs, then he's going to be looked at as a failure. Because everyone, even if there is a lot of casualties, nobody thinks that Iran can beat the United States. Right. Right? Like, nobody looked at this and says, oh, yeah, Iran can beat the United States. If they hit us hard and he runs, then that will, his legacy will be forever tarned. it will be a national embarrassment forever.
Starting point is 00:45:59 I don't think he has the option of running, honestly. Well, and Phil, like, to your point, I think you're exactly right. And that's what makes this whole situation just so frustrating because it's like, the Trump administration just sort of walked into this situation where that, that is the reality of what the outcome could be if they fail here. And it is not necessary. Like, again, the thing that drove Trump, I actually disagree a little bit of the people on, you know, specifically on Twitter that are like,
Starting point is 00:46:25 Trump got elected for no new wars and he's the peace president. and that sort of thing. It's like, I think actually the reason Trump got elected was for delivery on domestic policy. So again, if there was a situation in which we needed to engage internationally to like sort of bring up bring forth something domestically, I think the voters would have accepted that. Like Venezuela, by and large, ended up being fairly popular because people could see how it linked back to the domestic policy. Iran, completely unclear. That's what's so frustrating is Trump has walked himself into a situation where now his legacy is on the line over a conflict. that it's not even clear how this actually benefits his domestic policy.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Yeah, the messaging about this has been bad because he didn't sell it to the American people first. And I think that part of the reason why he didn't is because the idea of another war in the Middle East, talking about the possibility of troops on the ground or anything, that is something that millennials are definitely allergic to. Gen X is not interested. After 20 years of war in Afghanistan and Iraq, the U.S. is largely over. over that kind of stuff. And the U.S., the American people
Starting point is 00:47:29 just were not interested. And I think that this operation, if they do drag, if it does drag out, I think that, again, it's going to hurt his legacy. And I don't think that he, I don't think he could sell it to the American people.
Starting point is 00:47:42 What do you think so? I think the only way that he comes out of this with a positive rating is if it doesn't go beyond much further than what's already happened. if it drags out for six months or 12 months and we're still over there, even with very few casualties, if it becomes anything that smells like another forever war in the Middle East, people are just going to, they're not going to have it, right? And you're already seeing that. You're seeing a lot of sentiment. And you're talking about the younger generation, too, like from what I'm seeing, because I try to
Starting point is 00:48:12 maintain a pulse on what's happening. And you see these, there's huge shifts happening in the mentality of the younger generations in this country. And what I'm seeing is a lot of them are calling this is the Epstein War. A lot of them, people, they're saying, hey, hold on. Okay, so Marco Rubio's come out, and he's all but acknowledged that, yeah, it was Israel that kind of pulled us into this, right? It wasn't this, hey, this is the best for America, America first. It was like, okay, well, our ally Israel over there, we're getting pulled into this, right, which even further kind of gives a lot of weight to that argument, right? Like, hey, is this our war, is Israel's war? war. And I'm seeing that with a lot of the younger people, if you go and look on what's happening
Starting point is 00:48:53 on TikTok, on Instagram, what you're seeing is reaction videos to the Epstein file still. Like, that's a lot of what's driving the sentiment is you have these young people that are saying, oh my gosh, you know, all those kind of the Q&N and Q conspiracy theories and Pizza Gate and all that kind of stuff, they're looking at that and saying, wow, so much of that was true, how do I make sense of this? Because it's like their whole world has been shattered. And so I think they're using that emotional state as the lens to look at what's happening here. One of the things I see a lot is people looking, you know, looking back to the COVID stuff and saying, oh, we didn't believe, you know, or we were told this about COVID and that was a lie. And we were told this about COVID and that was a lie.
Starting point is 00:49:40 The effect that the government policy on COVID had on the American people, especially the young people who lost. you know, two years of their lives, basically, like, and they're very formative years. You know, if you, if you're 18 years old and COVID hits, you know, when you're 20, it's finally like, calm down and you're like, wow, that was BS for two years. Or if you're 16, you know, and, and you, if you're 16 years old, and you have to sit inside for two years and, and basically hide, uh, you know, that really has an effect on your ability to trust anything. at all that the government says. Well, especially with the Middle East, because if you look at our track record over there,
Starting point is 00:50:24 you look at the countries that you kind of piece it all together, you see, okay, wait, we've had a lot of these CIA intelligence-backed regime changes that have happened. It just so happens a lot of those countries have been outside of this kind of Ross Child European banking system. Is that a coincidence? I don't know, right? They're potentially, you know, kind of acting in ways that would threaten the dollar, which is a big part of this, right, is the petro dollar.
Starting point is 00:50:46 and the dominance of the dollar globally. And I think that there's a lot of the actions we're taking are just to protect that dollar status, right? And so, but if you look at this, if you look at the history, it's like, okay, how many times will someone lie to you? And then how do you know when they're telling the truth? Because, like, we've heard the same story over and over again, right?
Starting point is 00:51:08 Okay, hey, they've got weapons of mass destruction. They've got, there's bad things. We've got to deploy our troops over there to protect the American people. And it's like, really? Because I mean, I'm seeing videos of even going around of showing Netanyahu. For the past 30 years, he's been saying, like, in two weeks, Iran will have nuclear capabilities. In two weeks, Iran's, so it's like we're hearing the same thing over and over again. And if you look at the patterns, which is, I try my best to look at patterns because it's so easy to look at something in a very narrow scope and be manipulated, right?
Starting point is 00:51:37 Because everything is propaganda. It's like everything in our entire world that we're seeing right now has an algorithm or an AI or something is trying to modify how. we perceive something and how we think about it. What's our emotional reaction? And so if I'm looking at this, I think that there are a lot of people that, especially again, these younger generations, they're saying, this doesn't make sense to me. I can't afford rent. I can't get a job. AI is taking my job. Like, I studied coding in college, and now that's worthless because Claude can build a website faster than me in 30 seconds, right? So I think that you're seeing a lot of people that are looking at life in America, yet we're being told, this is the golden age,
Starting point is 00:52:16 the Dow's at $50,000, but if you look at the average American, they're struggling, right? Like debt is at all-time highs. You know, people being delinquent on auto loans, you know, mortgages, all-time highs. So the overall sentiment here is on really shaky ground. And so it's one thing if America is a place of strength where we actually have a booming economy, which translates into a strong middle class, right? Good, you know, good jobs, stability. Your average college graduates getting a good job.
Starting point is 00:52:46 That's one thing. It's easy to justify, hey, we're doing great. We're going to do a few things over the Middle East that's going to help maintain this greatness. But when we see that, I mean, my own perception of it is our countries and shambles. Like, we're insanely divided right now. And yet here's another Middle Eastern war. I think that, like I said before, like this goes past a couple of weeks, anything longer. And you're going to see that Trump's approval rating is this kind of tank and tank and tank and tank.
Starting point is 00:53:16 tank. And even if we win the war in six months or 12 months, if people can't pay rent, it's going to be who cares. Well, I do think, I do think it's actually the approval is going to be tied. I agree with what you're saying is that the American perception of Trump is actually tied to their like personal economic well-being. Like that, that has just always been the case. That's how America functions. And so I think if this war goes on and then energy prices start to go up, then everyone's going to lock in. Because this is actually kind of funny, because we're all here. We have strong opinions on this war. watching us strong opinions, people on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:53:48 We're like a minority of the population. It's wonky people that are really dialed in that are really tapped in on what's going on and on. The general public really doesn't care what's going on, has no idea. I was talking to someone today at a restaurant and we were talking about in the Fox News. He's like, yes, we're Obama and Iraq. He knew Iran and Iraq were two different places, but he was like, we're bomb and Iraq. I was like, well, because the American people, this is almost to Trump's credit here.
Starting point is 00:54:13 He's not like doing George W. Bush trying to sell the war. war to the American people. He's just doing it. He's not trying to insult us by like explaining. He's like, I'm going in. If this, the energy prices go up, then maybe you should pay attention. But like, I'm just going to, he's running the war like a corporation almost. You have to kind of give him credit there. But I, I just don't think the American people are tapped in enough to like, again, judge, Judge Trump to hold a referendum on Trump based off the results of the war. I think it's going to be what's in it for us. Because you have to think about Trump. This is that Trump's entire philosophy why he opposed the Iraq war. Yes, he had some critiques of the geopolitical
Starting point is 00:54:47 ramifications, but his primary reason, he said it over and over again is he said, where is the oil? We went to Iraq. We spent all that time, all that money. So many people died. He's like, where's the oil? Because the way he conceptualizes our foreign policy is he's operating as if America is already that preemptive empire, that we are an empire. And so he's saying, when we go to war, I need to be bringing riches back to the American people. And that's, he tapped into something. That's how Americans sort of conceptualized these things. So again, if we're going to war with Iran and energy prices go up and we say, what's the point?
Starting point is 00:55:15 Why are we even over there? What's in it for us? Because that's what I said earlier. I said before all this, I said, if this is going to help advance the domestic agenda, then fair play, like to your point where you're saying,
Starting point is 00:55:27 again, things are booming, and then we add this and we said, we gotta settle this score real quick to keep this train moving. That's one thing, but it's just so unclear right now. And again, I guess to Trump's credit, he's just kind of like letting it fly,
Starting point is 00:55:38 not explaining anything. Well, yeah. So speaking of the messages and what's being told. I think that the idea that this is not for U.S. interest, that it's for Israel. That's something that's pervasive, definitely on the hard right and on the hard left.
Starting point is 00:55:54 You see kind of the horseshoe theory going around. We have this bit from Secretary Rubio, who kind of made a remark. And then Rapid Response 47 went and put it out, and I don't know why they're so kind of the messaging here, but we're going to listen to the Secretary of State here. this operation with a fair, clear goal in mind. I haven't got a chance to see a lot of reporting. I don't understand what the confusion is. Let me explain it to you, and I'll do it once again as clearly as possible.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Perhaps you'll report it that way. The United States is conducting an operation to eliminate the threat of Iran's short-range ballistic missiles and the threat posed by their Navy, particularly to naval assets. That is what it is focused on doing right now, and it's doing quite successfully. I'll leave it to the Pentagon and the Department of Ward to discuss the tax. behind that and the progress that's being made, that is the clear objective of this mission. The second question that been asked is, why now? Well, there's two reasons why now. The first is it was abundantly clear that if Iran came under attack by anyone, the United States or Israel or anyone, they were going to respond and respond against the United States. The orders had been delegated down to the field commanders. It was automatic, and in fact, it bear to be true, because, in fact, within an hour of the initial attack on the leadership compound,
Starting point is 00:57:11 the missile forces in the south and in the north, for that matter, had already been activated to launch. In fact, those already been pre-positioned. The third is the assessment that was made that if we stood and waited for that attack to come first before we hit them, we would suffer much higher casualties. And so the president made the very wise decision. We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties and perhaps even higher those killed.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And then we would all be here answering questions about why we knew that indeed. Now that one little bit, right, the fact that he mentioned Israel, and that has basically set, you know, the entire, you know, right and America First Right and the, left set him off and said, well, okay, obviously Iran is dragging us into this. Now, I don't think that this is something that Iran has dragged us into. I think that he was fairly clear. Iran or Israel? I'm sorry, Israel. My bad. I apologize. I misspoke. I don't think that Israel is actually dragged the U.S. into it. I think that he made it pretty clear that no matter what happened, there was going to be strikes against the U.S., against their neighbors. Iran is that kind of state, right? Like they are the destabilizing power in the Middle East. The Sunnis in Iran don't like
Starting point is 00:58:41 the Shi, or the Sunnis in Saudi Arabia don't like the Shia in Iran. And they are, they have not been friendly. They, they look at each other as destabilizing. And so it doesn't matter that it was Israel doing the attack. Iran was going to attack their neighbors and the U.S. But it didn't help that mentioned Israel because now you've got people saying, oh, it's all for Israel. And you can't deny the fact that the U.S. being involved does help Israel. This is something that is going to benefit Israel in the long run. And the American people don't see how it benefits the United States, even though that, you know, you see all over X right now, there are people making arguments, myself included, that this is more about China for the U.S. than it is for Iran. But people that are on X and don't kind of
Starting point is 00:59:31 you know, look at the big picture. They really don't believe that. They think this is all about doing Israel's bidding, you know. And that's an important point that obviously you can't have this discussion without bringing in Israel. If you look at, you know, really like the past six months, especially Israel has become a major talking point, right? Especially among, you mentioned the horseshoe, right?
Starting point is 00:59:54 You have people on the kind of the more far right and also on the left. And there's a lot of. lot of truth to that, right? There's a lot of concern about APEC. There's a lot of concern about some things that tie into Israel. However, I don't think that we can look at this without looking at what is the role of the CCP. Because even a lot of the agitation around Israel, even if it's grounded in absolute truth, right, it's still something you had to look at and say, okay, how is this helping China? Because what I've seen with this is I've seen that, because in my own, own podcast. I've covered China extensively, right? Like, it's part of my adult life has been trying
Starting point is 01:00:37 to expose the atrocities specifically of the Chinese Communist Party, right? And so there's, I'm seeing a lot of people on the right that are actually becoming pro-China amidst this, which is really interesting, but it's really concerning to me because I'm seeing people saying, oh, there's no such thing as a Uyghur genocide. It's like, one of the first interviews I did in my own podcast, I interviewed a surgeon that fled China because he was forced to do live organ harvesting on Falling Gong, right? He literally explained the process of how that happened to him when he started cutting this person open after a kind of purposely botched execution, and the guy's heart was still beating as he was removing organs, right? This is what the CCP is doing.
Starting point is 01:01:21 And, I mean, it is, but I'm seeing, but even he told me that was back then, he goes, I asked him at the Uyghur concentration camps, he goes, oh, absolutely, he goes, you realize that, the CCP sells a lot of their organs to wealthy Middle Easterners. You know what those Middle Easterners want? They want halal organs. So having this massive database of Muslim organs in China is huge. And so I'm seeing, though, that there's, again, there's kind of, there's propaganda and there are information campaigns happening on so many angles, but I'm seeing that I absolutely think that the CCP has amplified a lot of the Israel stuff to a point. Again, there's a lot of strong. voices on the conservative side that are saying, gosh, well, look at China. Look how clean China is.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Look at their big, beautiful cities. Look at their infrastructure versus our infrastructure here. Well, China's not in all these wars. China's not doing this, but you have to realize that, yeah, it's odd to see people on the right that kind of have taken on anti-Western sentiment. And a lot of that I think is because of the fact that the U.S. has had such botched adventurism in the past. have decided to engage in wars that that were poorly thought out or at the very least engage in rebuilding of countries after wars that has not panned out the way that the people in power thought that it was going to and so it makes perfect sense that people are like well you know maybe you know it's like the meme maybe we're the baddies and and while I don't agree with that
Starting point is 01:02:54 I don't think so at all I think that there have been significant mistakes made but that doesn't mean that the United States is a net negative for the world. I understand why people would kind of get that inclination, you know. Do you think that the influence of China on people here in the U.S. is shaping the opinion that they have of Israel, or do you think that that's something that is just organic? I think China, from what I understand, China and Israel's relationship isn't, like, super frosty. They kind of stay out of each other's way.
Starting point is 01:03:28 They don't really have any overlapping interest for the most part beyond China generally, once the Iranian regime obviously to be stable and Israel obviously doesn't. But I don't see them really going to blows. I don't think the CCP would expend too many resources to try and foment serious anti-Israel sentiment. That seems to be more coming from Qatar, Iran itself. That's pretty much it. I would say that's like really trying to foment this in the United States. I do think Rubio is actually saying this.
Starting point is 01:03:55 This is a calculated statement. And I don't think this is like people are, oh, a Freudian slip. He admitted that Israel pushed America into the situation. Yeah. I think he's saying this for a reason. Some people have speculated one thing or another. I think it's kind of a warning shot actually to Israel to say like, hey, we can back out whenever we want and you should be left. Again, people made this point.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Lomas actually made a great point where he's saying, ultimately we should be looking now to start handing off responsibilities to, again, the countries that this directly affects. So mostly to Israel, but also to these Gulf states that, again, this is in their interest, not so much ours. I do think it's true. I wish a lot of people, because this whole Israel conversation has gotten so toxic, like, it really has where you can't even, like, say it without one side accusing you of being a Zionist and then the other side accusing you of being, like, you know, Hitler reincarnated or whatever. I think it's like, let's just cut through it. Sarnovich just said it, like, he's like, let's just cut through it. Obviously, the pro-Israel lobby, this is their thing. Again, the lobby, this is the primary driver behind this.
Starting point is 01:04:51 like Trump in a vacuum would still probably be anti-Iran. Like, let's not pretend like it's only because of it. Like the pro-Israel lobby that Trump doesn't want Iran to have a nuke. Like in a vacuum, Trump would still not want Iran to have a nuke because Iran having a nuke is terrible for us. But if this is true, I mean, if this is the situation, the pro-Israel lobbying now is to give us. Let's get the SAVE Act.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Like start throwing us some bones, right? Like we took out the trash. I hate to say it, but you kind of saw it last summer. The Big Beautiful Bill passes a week after we strike Iran the first time. So it's like throw us a few bones. Start whipping these senators in the shape because it's like, let's make it happen. Yeah. So, Elad, do you have any thoughts on what kind of influence China has on the situation with Israel?
Starting point is 01:05:36 And obviously, like I said, this is something that's very good for Israel, of course. If the Mullahs are taken out of Iran, if there's no more, you know, if it were to be a situation where, say, hypothetically the Shah were back in power, they had elections. That's clearly very good for Israel. And there's going to be people that no matter what happens, they're going to say, yep, that was for Israel. But do you think that the broader picture is something worth trying to focus on? Or do you think that the people that are kind of anti-Israel are just going to say that,
Starting point is 01:06:05 and we can't make any kind of advances in the, I guess, the propaganda side? So for many reasons, many people's top issue is Israel, and they will be blinded by that. And that's how they will go one way or another, just depending strictly on what Israel is doing. As far as China goes, I thought you made a really good point earlier about the petro dollar because, as I understand, one of the major underminings of the petro dollar, it's not too major, but like they could potentially grow into something bigger as how oil is sold from Iran to China in yuan. Yeah. Instead of 90% of it, too.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Instead of the dollar. I'm reading that Iran supplies roughly 10 to 13% of China's. total crude oil. So this would be a big deal because China imports already something like 80% of its oil. Any bites out of that is a huge deal to them. We're obviously just finishing up the job in Venezuela. They got a small amount of oil sending over to China. So this is only going to add to that. So I think the China angle is big here, but I don't know how much realistically China was ever going to do. Once they saw that Iran is weak, nobody wants a weak ally. And they're essentially to be disposed of. So once they ran out of their usefulness, China just said, okay, F this, we're not going to
Starting point is 01:07:22 waste any of our time on resources on this. 10% of our oil isn't great to lose, but I'm sure they'll be willing to import it elsewhere. I thought one of the fascinating things about this, too, is that people forget how close China and Iran were at one point. A lot of the materials and chemicals, particularly for the ballistic missiles, were sent to Iran from China. And that's one of their major arms that's threatening us at this point. I wrote a piece on. my Patreon and I think that actually China is the the larger piece for the US obviously Israel was going to do what they're going to do and I think that everything that that secretary Rubio said stands true like if the if the if the Israelis attack Iran Iran's going to look at it as if it was
Starting point is 01:08:07 attacked from the United States they're going to attack us but um if you want to go ahead and read about it it's on my Patreon it's it's uh patreon.com slash fill the remains but I do think that China is broadly the big thing. And this goes, this plays into the idea, this actually does play into the idea of changing the focus from Europe to the Western Hemisphere because China was involved in, in Venezuela. China's involved in Cuba and there's, there's arguments that Cuba's going to fall of their own volition. There's also people talking about the State Department being in contact with people in Cuba. Raul Castro's grandson, I think, is the guy that's in charge. I could be getting that wrong, but the point being, the U.S. is already, you know, positioning itself to have some kind of influence on a post-communist Cuba.
Starting point is 01:08:55 And that's, again, something that hurts China. There was the situation with the Panama Canal where China was trying to build, I believe, ports on either side or what have you. And the U.S. is trying to, you know, interp- or U.S. has successfully stopped that from happening. All of this stuff is trying to take power away from China. so that way the United States doesn't have to get into a hot war with China. So you were going to say something? Yeah, if we zoom out a little bit and think of this more in the big picture and especially in the second Trump administration, I think what we should understand here is this is a
Starting point is 01:09:26 reinvigoration of U.S. hegemony around the world. Initially, people only suspected that, no, this is just Don Roe doctrine, this is just in the Western Hemisphere. No, he's only going to do stuff in Venezuela. He wouldn't dare to expand this around the world. You know they were talking about spheres of influence. I was hearing this so much in the liberal media. No, he's going to abandon different parts of the world.
Starting point is 01:09:45 He's giving Ukraine to Putin and Europe to Putin, and he's giving all of Asia to Xi Jinping. But that couldn't be further from the truth. The president is strengthening his allies and then taking away the allies of our enemies. So we are destroying China's allies. As far as what Russia's doing, they've proven to be ineffective in taking over Ukraine,
Starting point is 01:10:04 mostly thanks to our support in arms. No thanks to those bum Europeans who I don't think we give enough shit to. And now what we're seeing going on in Israel, of course in the Caribbean and South America with Venezuela, as you also mentioned, the Panama Canal. So I think what we should be understanding from this is that the Americans and President Trump in particular is just knocking off China's allies one by one. And soon enough, it won't make any sense for China to want to make a move because they lack the allies to do so. So next on the list, I think we're likely to see China. Russia's bogged down in Ukraine. China almost has no other allies to help them make or would support them in making a major move on Taiwan.
Starting point is 01:10:41 and they should feel pretty isolated right now. Like, who are China's close allies that are nice and strong? Russia's proven, I think, to be very weak. Again, Cuba's weak. Venezuela's weak. Iran's the weakest, it's ever looked, ever. And they got their Ayatollah killed. And, you know, the repercussions to that was next to nothing to.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Two. We weren't about World War III as a result of this shit. Nothing happened. So China running out of allies, being put into a ship position, U.S. hegemony is here. to stay, and I'm so tired of hearing this third world this talks about, talking about bricks and spheres of influence, and you guys are all morons with no real understanding of how the world works, and I'm glad the president's here to upend your worldview of how things should and can go.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Dude, Burkina Faso just signed a trade deal with Guyana to import tomato concentrate. You're saying bricks is dead? What are you talking about? It was never a thing. We're never going into multipolarity. Unipolarity is actually a good thing. American values are good, and Chinese values are bad. But to be fair, like, I think it's that simple.
Starting point is 01:11:43 The, the idea that we were trending towards a multipolar world was like the consensus until like four years ago when. Until President Trump came back. Well, President Trump, yeah, and I'm a Trump Glazer, but also when Russia just failed so dramatically that kind of like, I actually think Trump in the first term in the back of us, maybe not in the back of us, but his political advisors are certainly like making that calculation that maybe, I don't know, maybe we are going towards a multipolar world. And then Russia and then COVID hits in China, like it gets as supposed to stay for tired.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Maybe we should give the military industrial complex. some credit. I know we do a lot of railing on them, but why do you think Ukraine was able to fend off Russians even more than one day? It was thanks to American large S. Our military industrial complex is what fended off the Russians. Even now, we're giving arms, we're selling arms to the Europeans who are just giving them to the Ukrainians. So it's all coming back to us. And I think it's a good thing. American values, again, are good. And if you think American values are good, I think it's a good thing in trying to maintain that egemony. Yeah, well, I mean, but it's to your point. I mean, like, the idea of a multipolar world, it's like we're not even really.
Starting point is 01:12:41 really pushing that hard to maintain it. Like, it's just, these countries, they just cannot get it together to your point. Like, Bricks was just a meme. It's Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. Well, okay, South Africa, that's laughable on the face. China and India claim each other's land. And also, India, by and large, is, like, an ally. Saudi Arabia is our ally.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Yeah, well, the S is South Africa in Bricks, which is hilarious. And then Russia. I know, right? And then Russia and China, like, Duke over Central Asia all the time. time, like, they're natural adversaries. It's just they both hate the United States. So that's what pushes them together. And then Brazil.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Dude, the more I think about it, all the arms we're sending to Ukraine, and we still have more arms to fight a battle in Iran. We're able to battle the Houthis. We're able to do, I won't call it multi-front, but we are funding all of the arms for a lot of these countries. Again, Israel is getting most of their arms from us. I guess the concern comes in is, look, if we're able to make such decisive action in Iran, why can't we just have blanket third world migration ban?
Starting point is 01:13:43 Why can't we actually have like a remigate? I know we're like, we are starting, we're getting mass deportation. Why can't we get something dramatic? Because we can get something dramatic in Venezuela. We can get something dramatic in Iran. We can get things, we can get dramatic when we need to. We can get some shock and all and we need to. How about we get some shock and awe in Queens, New York?
Starting point is 01:14:00 Because it's like half foreign born. Like, let's go. Come on. Let's go. Come on. To your point that, like I think, I think if the, if the administration were to really ramp up the deportations and actually put some real numbers up, numbers that were satisfying the people on the right. I think that that would actually, that would pay a lot of dividends. Right, because think how much political capital he's spending right now in Iran. Look, I actually agree that mass deportation. I know we like to say, oh, it's really popular. If Trump started
Starting point is 01:14:29 rounding people up and throwing them in vans en masse, that would be very unpopular. I'd much rather spend political capital on that than this dice roll in Iran, which is like, it's a dice role. I mean, I know the operation initially was successful, but, like, long term, we don't even, we still don't know what the goals are. We still don't know, like, what the victory condition is. Well, hold on, I mean, Secretary, Secretary, Secretary's, every one of the
Starting point is 01:14:50 Cabinet is disagreeing with each other. The Secretary of State was pretty clear when you look, what do you know about? The President said something different. The President said something different. The President said something, what the president said. The President talks about regime change. Yeah. And he encouraged it. Yeah. And then, Jim and Net
Starting point is 01:15:04 Yahoo, they're both telling people, hey, take over. And then J.D. Vance just toward the He just told New York Times, we're not putting any boots on the ground. So it's like, what is going on? Maybe it's flooding the zone. Maybe like this is a sci-op and it's meant to like cook my brain. I think, like many things in life, it comes down. People change how they feel based on the outcome. Americans breaking news.
Starting point is 01:15:25 We like fucking winners and we don't like losers. So true. So if this goes smoothly and we win the war, then yeah, the public will widely be supportive. And the president knows this more than anybody else. The president loves winning. He is a winner. And that's what this is about. obviously if things go straight
Starting point is 01:15:39 we'll be... Honestly, that's where I'm at. Like, I mean, I don't know exactly what the... Like you guys said, I don't know exactly what the actual goal is. But if the Iranian regime is taken out and we don't have a lot of
Starting point is 01:15:53 casualties, I'm going to be, all right, well, I guess that was a good idea. And if there's significant casualties or the president, like I said earlier, like something happens and the president turns tail and runs, then the president's going to be a pariah and, you know, it's going to be like, Well, he was terrible.
Starting point is 01:16:08 That was a terrible idea, and he shouldn't have done it. We shouldn't have elected him again. As I understand, and the administrations has been saying a lot, and my word is not bonds, so don't, you know, taking it face value, is to try to change the regime to a regime that doesn't have ambitions of a nuclear weapon or supporting proxies at the cost of as little soldiers as possible. I think that's what the formula is roughly coming down to. It's such an – because if that were the case, we would have sought.
Starting point is 01:16:37 in Venezuela already. The fact that they were able to get somebody who is more amendable to American Christians. It's still the deputy. Yeah. So, but she, because what happens is when you whip those people in the shape, she just comes out and she's like, okay, let's make a deal. Like, what do you want from us? I think that's what's going to happen in Iran is, again, like, we're going to get, like,
Starting point is 01:16:52 the fifth. Maybe it's the Islamists in Iran that just have, give me no faith in that. But I don't trust the fifth string Ayatollah Islamist or the sixth string. I think they're all. He's like on a 10-day contract. They're all Muslim extremists. What are the chances of having some kind of resolution like in, in, in Venezuela, where you take out the top guys
Starting point is 01:17:09 and then the new guys come in and say, well, they're just going to take me out if I don't. That's what I'm saying. So I think what's, I don't think regime change. I don't think that's where the president's head is at, if his words are anything to go by. You keep saying I know, that's what I'm like, so he keeps saying it. But like, I just can't, that would take forever. That would take
Starting point is 01:17:25 forever. It would extend it to the midterms. Where instead, you just do what you did in Venezuela is just if you drop enough bombs on them, they'll sign whatever you put in front of them. It needs to happen quick. If it doesn't happen within the first two months, then it becomes a quagmire. Also, from what I understand, a lot of their dignitaries are still in Switzerland. So like Whitkoff could just fly over there, show him a slide on the contract and say,
Starting point is 01:17:42 hey, we're going to kill like the eighth guy in line. So you better sign this contract. You're never going to build a nuclear weapon again. I like how to just kill your way through it to a nicer regime. I mean, that's what war is. That's still a honestly. That's having the opportunity. And there's nothing they can do.
Starting point is 01:17:54 I walked around DC all weekend and didn't feel like threatened at all. Can I also say I don't have faith in Iran, not just falling into a civil war. I don't know how much you guys know about domestic, Iranian politics, but there's a ton of secular young people. and then there's the old Shah, or the Shah's son, or something. Then there's the Islamists. And then there's a bunch of Arabs. There's a bunch of Kurds.
Starting point is 01:18:13 We all have their different interests. So I don't see how this country, if they aren't able to quickly form a cohesive government, doesn't fall into civil war if the president washes hands of this. If he's not able to quickly, you know, within the four, five, six weeks get regime change, he'll just say, fuck it. You guys stay a weak regime and hope somebody else takes over, and it'll probably just lead to civil war. Well, I mean, if that's the case, then, you know, again, Donald Trump is going to be go down in history as just another American that meddled in the Middle East and added chaos. Civil war in Iran is a better option than them acquiring nuclear weapons.
Starting point is 01:18:48 It's not for the United States and it's not for his legacy. It's not better for the United States for Iran to be in a civil war instead of acquiring nuclear weapons? I don't think that gets back to the press here. Not for the president's like it. If a civil war breaks out in Iran, that's not going to be front page news in America. But the people that are pissed that the U.S. went in, they'll know about it. It'll be better than the Islamist. The internet. Two weeks Trump and two weeks Trump's approval rating is not going to change.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Four weeks is when his approval rating will change because that's when the oil prices will be impacted. Because again, the average Americans are seeing every, this is what's happening right now in every living room across the United States. It's a baby boomer half asleep with like three beers in. And he's watching Fox News. He's like, whoa, what are they doing? What's going on over there? What are they doing? What's wrong with them?
Starting point is 01:19:33 Like, that's what he's... They don't have the conception of geopolitical... I'm sorry, like, the stereotype's kind of true. We don't have a geopolitical conscience. That might have been the case. That might have been a case 20 years ago, 15 years ago. But the point that I'm making is, like, now the people that are activated on the internet, that are upset, that are angry, that we're going in.
Starting point is 01:19:49 5% of the pop... Like, the Epstein stuff, they chimped for months, and it didn't impact this ruverating. But I think that they will make enough noise, and I think that they are a block that is going to have an impact. They couldn't even stop America from, like... Like, they literally could not do anything about Trump going in. Again, you're not just talking about the... And I'm with, I agree with them. I'm just saying, like, they're...
Starting point is 01:20:11 You're not just talking about the right, though. And I think, or at least I'm not just talking about the right. And I think you are. The left, the people, the offals. They're not going to. No, they're not going to, but they're going to, they'll make enough noise where it's going to be something that's going to be on the minds of the American people. The American, the American, if the American military loses a war, like, loses a war, that's not, something that's going to be... We don't lose. We get bored.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Well, that's why I said it's not going to be something that's going to be brushed on the changes. Changes in four weeks. That's the approval. His approve rating will change in four weeks because that's when it's going to become clear. Was it a success or not? Yeah. If Iran has a civil war, I imagine, and I don't know for sure, but I imagine that will affect gas prices. And gas prices is something that affects every American and they're going to want to know why they're spending $6 a gallon or what have you. Did you guys want to touch upon how the embassy in Pakistan, I believe the U.S. American embassy in extent.
Starting point is 01:21:04 We didn't bring up any stories about it, but I mean, look, if you try to go after a U.S. Embassy, if you break the, you break in, the Marines are going to shoot you. It's not, this isn't, and people were talking about Benghazi. What? No, yeah, they're going to shoot you. They're waiting for the opportunity. Yeah. He's like, he's Marines like, they will sit there with their finger on the trigger.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Marines will put the crans down just to pick up the rifle, right? So like this there were people that are saying oh this they'll be like oh this is like Benghazi or they're not going to do another Benghazi Benghazi wasn't out. Yeah but Benghazi was an outpost. An actual embassy is a different animal right like the the outpost in Benghazi was not staffed by by active duty Marines. There are Marines armed with a lot of weapons in the embassy particularly in a place that's you know not particularly friendly like Pakistan and the people that were. going after the embassy, misunderstood what they were doing. And it cost a lot of them their lives. The Marines do not play. They saw them break into the compound.
Starting point is 01:22:13 They got to this one last gate where if they got through the gate, they would be able to squirt out and scatter. And the Marines made sure that they were not going to get through that gate. And they started shooting people. And the Marines are riflemen first. They can shoot. The Pakistanis aren't even belligerents in the United. this war, but they still have more casualties
Starting point is 01:22:33 than the Americans of Israel's combined. Yeah, that's true. We're going to jump to this story for a little levity from the Jerusalem Post. Israel's Iron Beam Laser. What can it do? And was it used against missiles from Lebanon? Analysis. The Jews have lasers.
Starting point is 01:22:49 We've known about the Goy beam for a while and they've like rebranded. A lot, can you explain to us the rebranding idea? What is up with these Jews? I thought it was... What's the Goy beam? How do they keep making such technological leaps in bounds? Maybe it's...
Starting point is 01:23:06 This is what they do. They deploy the Goybeam and every girl that talks. From the Jerusalem Post, on Monday morning, a number of social media accounts circulated what they believed was an example of lasers intercepting Hezbollah rockets. The video showed rockets being launched from Lebanon, and many of the rockets appeared to explode soon after liftoff.
Starting point is 01:23:24 The video did not show lasers intercepting rockets, but the mass interest in the new technology is clear. Look, most of the time, you can't actually see. see lasers, right? So we're going to play the video so you can see it. They're not getting all that far into the air. Why don't we do swaggy shit like this? That's what the...
Starting point is 01:23:44 That's what the Golden Dome is supposed to be. Dude, you know? I want the Goy. All the money we give them, they won't give us a Goy beam. Unreal. Just zap Canadians. I do imagine that the United States and Israel are actually sharing this technology. I'm sure they're collaborating on.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Zap cartel members. Well, I mean... That's not a rocket. at the Goy beam and just have like a guy on the board. Oh, so like the Spartan laser? Yeah, like, yeah, yeah. The predator, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Three little dots. There you go. But the thing is, like, our own DOD, I mean, it is a DOD. They, on Twitter, they recently, they confirm. It's like, yeah, we have dues. We have direct energy weapons, yep. I mean, you know, they can be from space. Like, these things mount to the, you know, fronts of airplanes.
Starting point is 01:24:26 I'm sure they can mount to satellites. Like, the technology's there. I mean, this is stuff that was talked about in the Reagan administration for Star Wars, right? Putting them on satellites or putting lasers on aircraft that are constantly on patrol. Well, excuse me. I mean, the thing is, is that you're talking about the sharing of technology between, you know, Israel and the U.S., the technology that our government has, our military has, is probably 50 years beyond what we're being shown, right? And that's just one of the things that, you know, you hear people talk insiders coming out and whistleblowers.
Starting point is 01:24:58 They're saying that, oh, yeah, like, you know, we were doing this in the 50s, right? So, like, I think that our government has technology that is beyond space lasers. Yeah, well, I mean, there's more Nick Shirley video. We're deploying Thai fighters of some, there's a friggin Minneapolis. There was general grievous in there with lights savers. It would be awesome. Well, if I understand correctly, part of the defense of the ships nowadays actually is direct energy weapons, right? They're, they're loaded up onto Aegisus.
Starting point is 01:25:31 cruisers or whatever and they can actually defeat. That's why I said earlier, you know, it's like it may be kind of far-fetched the idea that a cruise missile would get through. But, you know, because of the fact that the U.S. does have technology that the American people don't know about, the president has said himself, you know, he can't keep his mouth shut at all. He wants to boast about everything. So he's alluded to the fact that the U.S. has technologies.
Starting point is 01:26:00 The American people don't know. about, he's stated it plainly. And so these kind of weapons, if Israel has them, I have to imagine that the, the U.S. also has them because the U.S. is well known, the U.S. and Israel are well known for sharing technology. From what I understand, they wouldn't actually give us, like, the Iron Dome. Like, they wouldn't give us the technology for the Iron Dome. I don't remember specifically what their reasoning was, but I know this was like a big issue that people said. Because they're stingy. We often, yeah, it was often requested and it wasn't given to us.
Starting point is 01:26:28 So now we're ever to develop the Golden Dome independently. I had to say that when a lot of stuff. You better get a goy beam. I do think that I do think that I think that's part of why the U.S. wanted Greenland or wanted, edly, or a guarantee of military access to Greenland. Because if this particular, you know, this particular video shows the rockets just taking off and being shot, obviously the proximity of Israel to Lebanon is significantly closer than the U.S. to. Russia, but if you have something stationed in Greenland, that's significantly further away from the U.S., it's much closer to where Russia's missiles would be coming from.
Starting point is 01:27:11 So it does make sense that they would be like, hey, you know, we want to be able to position these types of technologies up there. Well, and when the Golden Dome agreement was, or when it was like announced, they also said the Canadians are in. The Canadians want it as well. We're just going to build it for them. So we're literally going to build a giant force field above, right above us. It's going to be.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Thank goodness the Canadians are in. Right, well, because they all live within like 20 miles of the border. So, like, you guys want to notice it anyway. No, they... Like some moose, like hitting it. They're all... Some igloos around or whatever. They're all real close to the U.S., and they love the crap on us, but they live under the protection of the United States military.
Starting point is 01:27:45 They barely have a military at their own. Yes, they won't even notice it's there. Yeah. Because there's more Chinese military than Canadian military in Canada. That's a horrible, I... A horrible statement, but it's actually probably true. All right, we're going to jump to this one here. From the Daily Mail,
Starting point is 01:28:02 a mysterious earthquake swarm hits Nevada near top secret base used for testing nuclear weapons. A series of mysterious earthquakes has been recorded near one of America's most secretive bases used for nuclear testing. Over the last day, the U.S. Geological Survey, USGS, has detected 16 moderate tremors, all stronger than 2.5 in magnitude
Starting point is 01:28:23 in the vicinity of Tonapoa test range in Nevada, better known as Area 52. Both Area 52 and its more famous neighbor, Area 51, sit on a massive complex just north of Las Vegas called the Nevada test and training range. For decades, it has been believed the U.S. military has carried out experimental aircraft testing as well as nuclear weapons research in this remote area. Now, scientists have monitored over 100 seismic events within 50 miles of the Tunpaa test range in just the last week. These earthquake earthquakes have ranged from very small shockwaves between 1 and 1.9 to magnitude to minor earthquakes stronger than 3.0, which could be, felt by anyone at ground level nearby. Now, this is something that Donald Trump has actually been talking about.
Starting point is 01:29:03 We haven't had significant nuclear tests in a long time. There's definitely not been any above ground tests. I'm not sure when the subterranean tests were ended, but the United States has a responsibility to make sure that our nuclear deterrent is functional. And Donald Trump has alluded to being interested in resuming tests, do you guys think, Seth, do you think that this is actual testing or do you think that this is something else? I don't think it's natural earthquakes. This is a conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 01:29:37 That's for sure. I mean, we also, we know that our government has massive dums, right? You know, deep underground military bases, right? This is, you know, with tunnels and there's a lot of information about this that's not, is this conspiracy realm. So, I mean, yeah, are they, there's something going on there, whether it's nuclear tests, I mean, it's also, I mean, to me, it seems kind of strange that if you're testing nuclear weapons, and maybe I'm not a nuclear expert, but why would you test them underground? To prevent fallout, that was the argument.
Starting point is 01:30:13 And there was a long time where they stopped doing tests above ground, but they were continuing to do tests below. I guess the question is how, like, how does it work, right? Because I imagine if a nuke goes off under the ground, I would think that there'd be, some sort of giant crater, unless they're doing it so deep. I mean, I don't know how deep they do them, but underground testing has been a thing for a long time. Yeah, I mean, I think that, again, like I said, if the United States is going to continue to have nuclear weapons,
Starting point is 01:30:44 which is probably not in question or not an option, I think tests are something that are a responsibility. No matter what the international community says, no matter what any kind of international, the IAEA or whatever says, there is a responsibility of the government to make sure that these weapons are functional. You know, they're the most destructive weapons that the U.S. acknowledges having. And so if they don't, I mean, you don't want to say that you've got these weapons and
Starting point is 01:31:19 use them as a deterrent. And then if you, you know, come to find out that they, don't work or what have you. So, Alad, do you think that these, uh, these, these earthquakes are nuclear tests? I do not. I read some reporting that said like it would have had to have been a small nuclear weapon that China was testing for that to be what they
Starting point is 01:31:38 picked up on their Richter scale or what have you. Talking about Nevada. Oh. So that you, you walked away. But the, uh, mysterious earthquake swarm hits, uh, hits Nevada near top secret base used for testing nuclear weapons. So the president has talked about wanting.
Starting point is 01:31:54 to resume nuclear tests, do you think that they've gotten that program going? I don't think they would have done this test while still being a signatory to the agreement to not test more nuclear weapons. The reason for that being is that it's so easy to actually catch nuclear weapons being tested. So there's no real reason for us to do so. But how do you make sense of 100 seismic events within 50 miles of this area where they're doing this kind of work? It would have had to have been multiple. nuclear weapons to produce. Oh, no, I know, but like, what else, what else would those, those earthquakes be, right?
Starting point is 01:32:29 Seismic activity, underground. I don't, I'm not a geologist. Maybe we could get a geologist on it, but like, I think to produce that, it would have had to be, I didn't read this article, but it would have had to be multiple, um, nuclear weapons, not just one to create, um, seismic activity of that, that grand. I just don't suspect that to be the case. So the piece went on to say At this, the outbreak of earthquake swarms near the nuclear testing site has also come
Starting point is 01:32:57 As the U.S. launches a massive bombing campaign against Iran And President Donald Trump has warned the biggest wave hasn't even happened yet At the same time, the final remaining nuclear weapons treaty between the U.S. and Russian expired earlier in February Just weeks before the U.S.GS started picking up concentrated swarm underground. Biggest wave hasn't even happened yet. And we already bogged the Ayatollah. Where's the next one? The strongest of these recent Earth.
Starting point is 01:33:20 The earthquakes took place Sunday at 1137. Eastern time on a magnitude 4.3 shockwave rattled a remote point of the Nevada Desert, roughly 48 miles north-east of Taun-Pah. I mean, if the treaty between the U.S. and Russia expired, you know, and it was just a few weeks ago. Doesn't it make a little more sense that maybe the U.S. decided they were going to? Don't we always test our munitions or nukes like on the Marshall Island? islands really far away. No. No. They, they stopped doing above ground tests. Um, I believe in the 60s. Yeah, I think the purpose for testing nuclear weapons in this time period is just to flex on your enemies. I don't think they're like, we're not testing our nuclear weapons as I understand as a way to
Starting point is 01:34:07 see if they actually work. We know they work. I thought like half of them don't even work. Well, that's kind of the point. You can wrench on them a little bit. Oh, that's not. I don't think we're testing them to see if they're still put them in the garage and wrench a little bit. I think we'd like build new ones or some more radiation. It can also be they're testing some other kind of weapon. Right. I mean, it could be Jewish space lasers being tested underground in area 51, right?
Starting point is 01:34:29 Maybe they're firing off at alien UFOs and underground, you know. But, in all honestly, though, it could be something that we're just not familiar with. Like, it could be some sort of other, you know. Epstein might be hiding down there and he gives off seismic vibrations. Did you hear that New York finance lawyer, Jeffrey Epstein, was killed in a strike in Tel Aviv? I thought that was quite a second year. The Iranians because they hate pedophiles. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:52 They were taking him out. What? Yeah, this is why Bricks needs to stand. So we're going to go to Super Chat. We should go to Super Chat. I think we're going to go to Super Chat's now. It's getting to Super Chat. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:35:52 Jay Dave 93 says Philcast is nice, but where is the Beanie Man? Did you kill him? No. There was no assault on Tim. Tim's been sick. His voice is shot. He's been coughing a lot. Tim was unfortunately killed.
Starting point is 01:36:04 And an airstrike in Tel Aviv. He was there meeting with all high-level Israeli officials so he could develop his takes for the week. And unfortunately, Iran, got him. Vasada was called their top agent back to Tel Aviv now that the war started kicking off. Makes sense. So obviously, we wanted to release a statement, but since you're going to release a statement, but since you asked, that's what happened?
Starting point is 01:36:20 What do you morons think he's hiding under that fucking beanie? You idiots, think about it. Think about it. For one second, think, guys. All right, what else we got? Try Jim says, in keeping with Tim Pool tradition, we are waiting with our daughter and her husband for the birth of our first grandchild, Sophia.
Starting point is 01:36:37 There you go. That is awesome. That's what we like here. More babies. Welcome to the world. Usually they don't throw the name in. Welcome to the world, Sophia. Get to work.
Starting point is 01:36:46 We need to get you over to Iran. We got some scores. settles. Once you can start walking and you can hold a goy beam. We're going to send you over there. Send you in there like the Spartans. Let it fly.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Mr. Nebula says, in Timcast community tradition, I'm announcing that my first, that my wife, Eve Apologist, a regular on the Discord, is currently giving birth to our firstborn,
Starting point is 01:37:05 a daughter, Tallulah. Thoughts and prayers are welcome. There you go. That's what we love to do. Do you think these guys are conceiving during Timcaste too? I think, though, can you blame them?
Starting point is 01:37:14 I mean, geez. Only on Mondays when you're here. Just Tim's rating. It's all the beards. You blame them? It's all the testosterone in the beard. When you think about Tim Kest-R-L, you think testosterone, you think, like, sexual energy. Sexual domination, I would argue.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Listen to you to be talking to Ian too much. Yeah, like, you know, what happens all across the country is, you know, girls look at their men, and then they look at Tim Kast-I-R-L, and they look back at their man, and they just sigh. Yeah. There's just the amount of just frill and virality. Mr. Mabulis, I hope that you don't. Welcome to the world, Toulula. Get the work.
Starting point is 01:37:47 I hope that you don't like sleeping too much. much because that is going to be a thing of the past for at least the next six months. I have a four-month-old, and, yeah, me and Carter both have newborns. And it's, you'll do great, though. Yeah. So I see someone's coming in a couple times saying, I thought the bearded dude was going to go live in a compound. I'm not sure where that came from. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:08 I mean, I live out in the middle of nowhere, and I've got chickens and guns. You know, Tim's got chickens and guns, too. It sounds like Tim with hair. I used to have chickens. I no longer have chickens, but I have guns. What do you think we're missing? What's like an essential for like a prepper compound? Like I said, a lot of people are missing.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Yeah, we can talk about prepper stuff in the end. Actually, if you go to readyscore.com, ready score.com, I built a, it's free. It's a free preparedness assessment tool. So you go in there, there's a whole questionnaire. And it'll walk you through. And you can do it like a short one. It's like 90 seconds or a longer one. And it basically, it's like covers every area.
Starting point is 01:38:45 Like home defense, water, food, medicine. and it gives you a report, kind of like you have a credit score. It gives you your preparedness score. You're ready. You're ready score, right? So it's ready score.com. And that way you can see, it's like, okay, you're ready score is like a 60 out of 100. And it's like you're missing in these areas.
Starting point is 01:39:00 So like I'd have to, to know that I'd have to kind of ask some questions and say, okay, here's what I think that we're missing. But in general, it's a long, long answer. But in general, having a compound, like what you need. The biggest thing, honestly, is just having people. Like that's probably the most overlooked thing that people think about preparedness is they're thinking like they can be a lone wolf and live in the woods and survive the apocalypse. It's like, no. You got to have a community, right? You got to have people with multiple
Starting point is 01:39:29 skills. You know, you have to have for so many reasons, not to mention the fact that, you know, if you want to have your family line continue, you can't just have your own family line interbreeding, right? So you want to have a compound of, but that's a longer discussion. But anyway, yeah, readyscore.com. We built this tool that just to help people. It's around the whole winter storm thing. Yeah. What do you score at? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Ready score. What's that? What do you score at? My ready score, I think, was like around 75 or 80. Oh. Got a few, you know. Is that out of 100? Out of 100.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Yeah. Cool. It is, I mean, look, people might go ahead and poke because, oh, he made the, he made the test and he's not even getting a 99. But it is really difficult to be truly prepared for all of the eventualities. And you're talking to a guy that, you know, I have a lot of. things that people expect, you know, preppers to have. I have, you know, my place in New Hampshire's 40 acres deep in the woods and, and there's all the accoutrements that go along with that kind of
Starting point is 01:40:27 stuff, but I'm sure that I probably don't even score 50%. But I do have a well and I have, you know, those kind of things. Power is, is something I need to work on for, for... I just figure, like, if there's a doomsday scenario and there's no chick-fil-a, you do? There's no college basketball. Like, I don't want to live through that. You can practice on Sundays. There's no chick-fil-A on Sunday. And, like, if there's a zombie apocalypse, like, why would you want to be alive for that? Sounds awful.
Starting point is 01:40:52 Like, you see your boy and he's a zombie now? Like, you can't even, like, hang out. Is he even really still your boy, though? Well, if you put him in a cage, you can still hang out and, like, play board games through the cage. Until they find the cure. Oh, you have the golden apple and Minecraft. Jay Dirtbiker says, just here to say,
Starting point is 01:41:08 we'll put a boot in your ass. It's the American way. US, US, US. There you go. Well, rest in peace. That's why. It's because Toby Keith is gone. If he was still around to drop, like, a new banger for this, like, support for the war.
Starting point is 01:41:20 I'd go to night. You need a soundtrack if you're going to go to war, right? Yeah, you need something good. Like, this is what I love is, like, when LibTards, every time we play Fortunate Sun for, like, the Venezuela edits, and they're like, um, that was actually a wholesome song as anti-war song. And I'm like, sit down. It's the cool dropping bombs. It's the cool helicopter song now. We're retconning.
Starting point is 01:41:37 There's nothing you can do about it. You're gay. We're cool. It's ours now. So take your tail back to Reddit. and we'll handle the edits, we'll handle the soundtracks. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:41:49 It's like having genius. You know what genius is like, oh, this is what the lyrics actually mean. I don't care. It's the cool helicopter song now. And the Macarena song is the Fighter Jet song. The Macarena is the Fire Jet song. I'm so tired of the Reddit Waffen
Starting point is 01:42:02 trying to tell us what we can and cannot put in our edits. I'll put whatever I want in there. You know? I'll put a Chappelle Rhone song. I don't even care anymore. She looks like a foot. Let's see. announce her name.
Starting point is 01:42:14 Chapel Rhone. Oh. Chapel. Is that her real name, though? She had like a nipple dress on at the, am I thinking of the right? That's glass houses. Is that a different woman? No, it is, but, you know, we probably shouldn't be throwing around.
Starting point is 01:42:27 Oh, we'll save that for the after show. Mallow baby has some thoughts. I don't care what happens. I'm just tired of being lied to and propaganda pushed on my people by Zionist warmongering psychopaths. Like to throw that Zionist in there. Do you guys think that this is actually, like, we'll wrap this part up. Do you guys really think that this is all for Israel?
Starting point is 01:42:45 Do you think it's about Zionists, people that are looking to establish greater Israel for the Jews? I think two things can be true is, like, what Huckabee said is crazy. But I don't think that reflects, like, Trump's philosophy. I think Michael Tracy actually hit the nail on the head. Is he saying, like, was his, like, Venezuela, now he's starting in Cuba, Greenland. Like, he's all around the world. He has a lot of irons in the fire. And then, okay, one is for Israel.
Starting point is 01:43:12 What about the other ones? Israel controlling every single, like it's clearly not controlling our foreign policy, but the other thing could be true, which is there are people within the Trump administration, I think, well, there are people within the Trump administration that do feel that way, and also the number one beneficiary of this war is obviously Israel. So this is why I said earlier, and this is what Sernovich is saying is like, look, let's just, you guys go to bat for our issue. If we're going to go to bat for the pro-Israel issue, then you go to bat for our issues. You go to bat for the SAVE Act, et cetera, et cetera. I think that's a good exchange.
Starting point is 01:43:42 I think there's a deal to be made here. I think agency exists for people who aren't Jewish as well, and most of the wars that the United States has fought, obviously haven't been for Israel, but there's a certain subsect of people who are Israel obsessed, and that believe that whenever something happens on this earth, it's because of the Jews or the Zionists in one way or another. So I just want to tell everybody out there,
Starting point is 01:44:04 you have agency in this world. You have the power to change things in your world and in your life. do not control you and do not control the outcome of what you achieve in your life. Isn't that a beautiful thing, though? You have the opportunity and agency to do whatever you want in this life. Goyam are people, too. People with agency. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:22 You were also made in God's image. Well, because it's like this whole idea that if it weren't for like Israel and Trump's a year, that Trump would be like okay with Iran having nuclear weapons, that doesn't make any sense. Like, there's clearly some overlapping interest. I think even the most ardent anti-Israel people could admit that there are, are some overlapping interests with the U.S. and Israel and when it comes to Iran. The reason why I want people to understand this, too, as far as the left goes, the reason why so many people on the left hate Israel is only because Israel is right wing and white-coated. Because when people on the far
Starting point is 01:44:56 left think of Israel, they think of white people, that is why they hate Israel, because they think of Israel as a so-called settler colonialist society. But guess what we are here in America, too? We are proudly a settler colonial society. And that's part of what makes us a great country. they're using the same blueprint and framework that they use on Israel that they will eventually use on the United States. So when you hear this shit on the left about Israel, just think about all these themes and trends are the same
Starting point is 01:45:20 thing that they will say about the United States in the future. They hate Israel because they believe they are white people in the Middle East. It's not in the future. It's not in the future. There is a right wing criticism to be made of Israel and it has not been made in the right wing Zygai guys in a long time. They just adopt a left-wing
Starting point is 01:45:38 talking points. It's left-wing talking points. It's like Tucker Carlson did this where he was he was like you know I have more in common with my Pakistani cab driver he was like in London he's like I have more in common with my Pakistani cab driver than I do from like to larval liberal living next door I'm like what are you talking like what that is just third world anti white slop and I'm so tired of seeing like people who again have like an axe card at Israel which is totally like fair you you're fully within you're right I have a lot of problems with Israel but when you start allying with the third world with Muslims or they're not going to go to bat when it comes like mass
Starting point is 01:46:10 No. They are the mass migration. They are the mass migration. Bro, you are the replacement. You see all these people like, oh, bro, you are the great replacement. And then in addition to that, every pro-Palestine rally, there's like Antifa there and there's like LGBT people there. Because like to your point, they just see Israel as like a white colonial country.
Starting point is 01:46:29 What do you think we are? We're a white colonial country. What do you think Australia is? What do you think Canada is? Like they view Israel the same way. Again, these like third worldists, whatever, they view Israel the same way. So it's like don't adopt their talking points. Use authentically right-wing criticisms if you are going to critique a relationship with Israel.
Starting point is 01:46:46 And there are criticisms to make. Sure. I never see them being made. No, not at all. But the left think that they will use Islam as a way to take down the West. But really what will happen is Islam will use the left as a way to take down the West. Well, that's what happened in Iran is literally the name of the, no, there was a left-wing group that was a that was, that was, was like at the spearhead of the revolution.
Starting point is 01:47:11 I can't believe they blanked out in their name. And then as soon as the Hight's well got in power, he purged all of them. Yeah, well, I mean, that's why the phrase useful idiot exists. Like those people are just, they're useful until they're not useful. And whether it be the communists, the actual tankies, or you're talking about the Islamists, once those people are no longer useful, they liquidate them.
Starting point is 01:47:35 And historically, that's what happened. That happened in China. That happened in Iran. that happened in Russia. This is just the way that it goes, the way that the, the revolution always happens. You have a,
Starting point is 01:47:47 a broad section of society that thinks, oh, we're going to go ahead and complain about the existing structure and then we'll take it down. And then we're going to have our utopia. But what happens is the strong man that is actually running the show. Once they are in power,
Starting point is 01:48:03 they liquidate the useful enemies because they don't need revolutionaries because the revolutionaries. They're the first to go. They're absolutely. the first to go. Like I said, it happened in China. It happened in Russia. It happened in Iran. This is the way that it happened. I'm pretty sure it happened in Cuba. This is the way that it always pans out because when you empower the people that are looking to have the revolution, when you empower, you look for a
Starting point is 01:48:27 leader, that person wants to stay in power. And it was the it's, it was the M-E-K. So the M-E-K, spearheaded the Iranian Revolution. Guess where their headquarters are now? Where? So obviously it didn't go very well from them. As soon as they're useful, these useful idiots, as soon as they were done, the Islamists were just like, okay, thank you. Get out of here now. Just to put a cap on this point, the people in the United States and around the world who are the most anti-Israel people are Muslim extremists, and Islam is incompatible with our Western values. I think that's just something to consider. Once they finish dealing with the Jews as the way they see fit, they will not be satisfied at stopping there.
Starting point is 01:49:05 First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people. Their values are incompatible with our country, and I think that's really what we should understand from a lot of their political ideology being so antagonistic towards different. If you're America First, you should be only siding with, like, European Christian people because those are, like, guaranteed allies. And everything else is, like, a little bit of a risk. It's a little bit odd how much America first aligns with, like, these anti-Western countries like China and Russia. And Muslims. Yeah. It's a little bit strange.
Starting point is 01:49:34 It's like constant proposals to, like, non-European, non-Christian, non-Christian people. groups and I'm like, what's going on? Clint Torres says, he's got two super jets. He says, howdy people, just wanted to give a shout out to my son who is following in a long family tradition of soldiers, Marines, airmen, and sailors by honorably and bravely serving in our U.S. Navy. He had to go radio silent on his ship Saturday morning, so please keep my boy and everyone else's boys and girls who are bravely putting themselves in harm's way for their country in
Starting point is 01:50:03 your prayers. There you go. There's a patriot. Amen. Absolutely. Shout out to all of our. our service members, domestic and abroad, protecting the freedoms that we often take for granted. But it's people like your son that really allow America to be what it is today. And without
Starting point is 01:50:19 people like him, we wouldn't exist. So we really give our deepest thankful gratitude and thanks to the people who are really willing to sacrifice, as opposed to us just being loudmouthed behind the mic. You know, there are real people willing to lay it all down on the line for the things they believe in. And I truly commend them for it. They're the modern day hero. and warriors of our time. And like, whatever your take is, even if you're the most anti-Iran intervention guy on planet Earth,
Starting point is 01:50:44 you have to take a step back and at least like sit in awe about our military. Like our military is unbelievable. We're the most lethal force in human history. And it's because of like boys like that, like their son.
Starting point is 01:50:54 Like we have on, honestly, we have the secret sauce, which is Americans. Like we have the most unbelievable people. We have the blood of the greatest men in history like gushing through our veins.
Starting point is 01:51:02 So whatever the military wants to do, they're going to get it done. So it's like, again, whatever your take is, the military is so sick. Like our military is incredible. You can have all your anti-war takes. Thank you so much, man.
Starting point is 01:51:11 That's a great one. And, yeah, I appreciate it. I'm not your buddy, guy says, unfortunate reality of Iran is they kept kicking the can down the road, not realizing we had to face this threat one day. It's better they had no nukes. I mean, the argument for that is, I mean, it's a real argument that, like, look, eventually Iran was going to have to be dealt with.
Starting point is 01:51:32 Like, the idea that Iran was going to be left to their own devices and continue to sponsor terror all over the place, continue to try to develop weapons, continue to support the Houthis, continue to keep the straight of Hormuz in a strangle hold on it. Like that was not going to be something that could stand forever.
Starting point is 01:51:55 Iran had to be dealt with, and whether you like it or not, even if you don't think that the U.S. should be doing the dealing with them, that is realistic to say, look, it's gone on too long. So I agreed with a lot of your sentiment earlier, but I feel like it kind of avoided the real question, the real crux of the issue here, and that's Iran's nuclear ambitions. So should the United States have done anything to try to curb those ambitions? What should the United States have done to, and how should we have reacted to Iran pursuing
Starting point is 01:52:25 nuclear weapons? Because I'm sure, you know, there's a ton of shit going wrong here, and there's an endless list of things that we could try to deal with, but, you know, just ignoring the problem of Iran to acquire nuclear weapons won't change anything. It'll only make it worse for us down the line. Yeah, I mean, it's such a tricky situation, right? Because that was, again, that was the same reason for going into other areas in the Middle East, right? Weapons of mass destruction. There's always things. So are they actively... I guess they have nuclear facility. Do you not believe that Iran truly had nuclear ambitions? Oh, no. I mean, I do believe so. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and this is the hard part because while it's easy to say, oh, I'm an isolationist, right? It's like,
Starting point is 01:53:04 I just want to be America. It's like, this is not the world 400 years ago where a country could just kind of stay relatively in its own region, right? So there's no such thing as being isolation, right? Not in today's world. And so, yes, the United States, especially post-World War II, became the global police, right? And, you know, Peter Zahan's book, The End of the World is just the beginning, like does a good job of detailing how the modern world that we see now, the shipping and everything, it's like on a razor's edge. A lot of it, has come through the naval presence and the structure that United States has given the world. And so, you know, while I absolutely what you'd say in isolation is like, okay, no foreign wars,
Starting point is 01:53:46 just like don't meddle and that kind of stuff. I also understand that as a country, if we've got a country, like, you know, so say I live in my house and say my neighbor has a machine gun, he's always pointing at my kids in the backyard, like, I'm going to do something about it, right? So I do agree that we have to do something. But it's just, it's just, it's just, so nuanced and there's been so much, there's been so much deceit from our own government. But I guess it begs the question. What do you think that something should be? Like, obviously, it's hard to say. You want to go in there militarily. Or if you just don't have an answer, that's fine too. But I don't think that's satisfying to a lot of people who want to, you know,
Starting point is 01:54:23 see how the world will be and how this will affect geopolitics down the line. Yeah, I mean, it's like, okay, if you had to do something, I would do what Trump is currently doing. If you can be surgical and you can eliminate that threat, eliminate the potential threat in the future in a way that your minimal loss of life, not just for us, but also for them. We're not firebombing cities over there with the intent of just wiping out the Iranian population. Right. So it's like, yeah, if they had the intelligence that they had these active programs and that they were actively developing nuclear weapons and their intelligence was saying that yes, they're going to use these nuclear weapons on American people. It's like you have to detect the country. They were negotiating
Starting point is 01:55:05 with the Islamic regime and they said they were going to continue pursuing. They didn't want to sign any agreement about any limits to it. We offered them nuclear material to have, you know, their nuclear facilities that they wanted to base energy or some sort of research based off if they completely denied that. They said there's no conversation to be had about their ballistic missile testing. Is that to say the president has your endorsement for his attacks on Iran? If that was the exact scenario and I believed it, I'd say, yes, but the problem is, is just that these things are just, they're so complex, right? And I've spent a lot of my time studying the inside of military industrial complex. So you get into some of the CIA
Starting point is 01:55:51 type stuff. You get into MK.K. Ultra, you get into like some really, like absolutely diabolical and evil things that have happened at the hands of our own military industrial complex. It's, you have to look at these things through a lens of like being really scrutinizing. Now, I'm also, I'm not someone that is coming out and saying America is the evil empire, right? Like, America, I believe, is the greatest country on earth. Like, the life that I have here, I have, like, when I see the flag flying or I hear the national anthem, like, I'm, I'm so patriotic to that. But I also recognize that it's just a state of our world, right? It's, it's like where we're at in human history is, and actually, there's, I have a book I'll bring out really quick about this. I actually, let me pull this out
Starting point is 01:56:32 real quick. But it's like if you want to understand why the whole world is going to hell in a handbasket, there's this book called... You have a few. Yeah. Yeah. Bernays propaganda, silent weapons for quiet wars. That's a good one, right? But this book called Political Ponorology. Oh, dude, I've read that book. This is a heavy book. If you understand what's happening in the world right now, you look at the Epstein stuff through this lens. It's basically the idea that over time evil accumulates in positions of power. And so I think that even before Christ, we had we had consolidation of powerful evil. And it's maintained a lot of that control. And so like the world where you see it today, it's like almost every government has massive amounts
Starting point is 01:57:17 of evil in it. Right. And it's just, it's the hard thing. It's like, is Israel, their government evil? Yeah, they're doing some evil stuff there, right? Is our government? Absolutely. Is the CCP, which is still running the world's largest state-run organ harvesting operation of underground Christians, Falun Gong, et cetera, absolutely evil. So it's like we're kind of put into a situation now where it's so difficult to, like, you can't look at anything in a binary way of just black or white. Like, it's so complex. And so that's why it's hard for me to give this answer of just, like, I absolutely support Donald Trump in these actions because I'm also trying to look at that. I'm analyzing, okay, how does this tie in to the Epstein files?
Starting point is 01:58:00 How's it tie in to this? How's it tie in to all these other things? And so it's hard for me just to give a binary answer of like, yes, I support it or yes, I'm against it. All right. D. Rimmel says, this is not a new war. We've been fighting this war in one form or another for almost 50 years. Also, the targets of late have strong connection to China and Russia.
Starting point is 01:58:22 I think that that's something that we've covered at length today. this is not a situation where it's just one dimension, right? And not that I'm a 5D chess guy, but, you know, it is worth saying, look, don't look at this as just an isolated incident. This is something that actually, if you read the national security strategy, this is something that plays right into what the Trump administration has been talking about doing. Excuse me. Go ahead. No, I think that also really gets into the question that you would ask me is that it's like, okay. Okay, I don't think it's just the issue of just this isolated country that has these ill intentions towards the United States, right?
Starting point is 01:59:03 We also know that a lot of the terrorist activity across the Middle East was actually the KGB was heavily involved in setting all that stuff up. Like, why is it that the main weapon they use is a Russian weapon, right, the AK-47, right? So the Middle East for a long time has just been a proxy for this kind of these larger nation states using this to foment hatred for America. There's been so much going on over there, but I think that it's like, I'm looking at not as much as looking at it from the lens of just as isolated country, but if I look at Trump and I think, okay, he's doing this as a part of a bigger war. It's like when Venezuela happened, you know, a lot of people that were like, this is so wrong, like, okay, Trump's not doing regime changes. And I'm looking at it and saying, well, yeah, but he may just took a really key resource away from the CCP who wants us dead. So it's the same when I'm looking at it with Iran. it's like, okay, if this is something
Starting point is 01:59:56 it's going to actually really help the bigger picture of the war with the CCP, which we are at war with the CCP. Whether we acknowledge it, they acknowledge it. You read their doctrines. You read unrestricted warfare. You go back to, I'm not sure if you ever come across the leaked speech of General
Starting point is 02:00:11 Cher Hao Qian, right? He was the, have you read it before? Mind blowing, maybe in the after hours we'll get to it, but it was this leaked speech in the early 2000s of one of the, he was the defense minister in China. When he literally was talking about how they needed to use biological weapons to wipe out between one and two hundred million Americans so they could seize our land.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Right? This is their minister of defense. So that's why it's like it's not as easy as me answering and saying, yes, they shouldn't have nukes so we should kill their leaders, right? Is that makes sense? Simple to me, but I understand why people could have more qualms about it. I guess I'm underrated by some isolationists, just criticizing the people making decisions when they don't have to.
Starting point is 02:00:51 And again, you didn't have to make a decision and you didn't even really have to give an answer. It's really easy to criticize and not have a solution. And that's what I think we see from so many isolationist types. And that's why I try to press you on it. They want a nuclear weapon. What are we going to do about it? And it's just like, oh, well, I'm not sure. And we may have to make a bunch of decisions. All right. We're
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Starting point is 02:02:32 Absolutely, yeah. I mean, I think I disseminated a lot of concerns regarding the war, but I do have to say I still have full faith in President Trump. I do think, despite the walls closing in on the president, right? Like it seems like this is the end of MAGA. I think he's going to be vindicated in the end. I think we'll make it out.
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