Timcast IRL - WAR IS ON For Midterms, DOJ ARRESTS Illegal Aliens For Voter Fraud w/ Paul Martino

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

On this episode Tim & the crew are joined by Paul Martino to discuss Illegal aliens being arrested for voter fraud The economic woes facing Americans as we approach the midterms Influencers exposed getting paid to promote leftist talking points World of Warcraft returning Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) |  @TimcastTateBrown  (YT) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) https://carterbanks.komi.io Guest:  Paul Martino Paul Martino is a venture capitalist and Managing General Partner at Bullpen Capital, where he has led investments in companies including FanDuel, Ipsy, and Life360.

The DOJ has arrested illegal immigrants, a Mexican national, a Trinidad and Tobago National for voter fraud in Pennsylvania. The midterm war is heating up. And the question is, will the right make a procedural victory in this election? To be honest, it's a question of will they actually just get the votes? There's a diesel shortage, gases up. Trump's approval rating is hovering in aggregate around 40%, maybe slightly down. And the prediction markets are saying Democrats are going to obliterate the GOP. But with the DOJ going after voter fraud with these moves on the post office, whether that actually works or not,

there's a question of whether or not Republican strategy is targeting the procedure of how the vote happens. Now, of course, Democrats are calling that voter fraud itself and suppressing the vote. But, guys, I got to be honest, in the end, the winner is the person who is sitting in that chair in Congress, in the presidency, in the Senate, whatever it may be. So we're going to talk about that. We got a bunch of big news, too. Of course, Xi Jinping is still here in the United States, and there's a massive protest underway.

It's getting pretty wild. And I even saw when, where was it? I was in L.A., Falling Gong protesters, protesting Xi Jinping coming to the United States, saying that we should not be allowing this. And you may have heard of those guys. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we got a bunch of war stuff.

Of course, as we already mentioned, the news about the gas shortage. And then I know you guys may have, talked about it earlier in the week, this poll showing that around a third of Democrats support the assassination of Trump. Two-thirds support a military coup against our duly elected, democratically elected government. So I'm back. I definitely want to talk about all of that stuff and more. So of course, smash that like button, share the show with all your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got Paul Martino.

I'm excited to be here. It's a pleasure. Who are you? What do you do? So day jobs, I run a venture capital firm, but I'm currently here because I'm in a film called Bucks County USA. Bucks County USA is about political division in the United States, done by two Academy Award-winning directors, Robert May and Barry Levinson. And the film follows the friendship of my daughter and her best friend who don't agree on much and whose parents are political rivals. And it's about their friendship in spite of the fact that we're political rivals. I think it's a very timely story in the environment that you're describing. You know, just to the chagrin of so many people who watch this show, I'm friends with Brian Shapiro.

I don't know if you know who he is, but man, he is one of the most hated liberal lefty guys. Phil's blocked him. It's just only on the internet. Brian came back. Multiple times. Yeah, actually, that probably is multiple times. If Brian comes back, look, I'll hang out with him. It would be nice.

He's a Twitter. He's a mean guy. He's a mean guy in politics. And so it's true. And I tell him this all the time. And, but I actually just did a con, I had a conversation with Jillian Michaels for our. for my interview show, which will be coming out in a week or so. But this is what we've been talking about. We have to get rid of the crazies. We have to stop the crazies. Did you see that lesbian

masking bar story that went massively viral? In Massachusetts, I sure did. Yeah. Okay, we got to stop the crazies. Listen, if you want to have a bar where your message is fine. But sending death threats to the bar owner, those people, these are not real people in the real world. I know they exist, but they shouldn't be presumed to be the majority or in control. So we can, got to have these conversations. It's going to be fun, man. Appreciate you coming. The boys are hanging out. Yeah, what's going on, Tim? Good to have you back. Good to be back. Hello, everybody.

Good to see you, Carter. Yeah, Tim, good to have you back, man. It was an adventure. I was in Los Angeles, of course. Before we had started, my friends, head over to casprue.com. Buy coffee. Your coffee purchases. Sustain us. Helps keep the show going, keeping us here. And we also drink the coffee, too. We've got pool water. We've got Holbein-ground coffee flavors. When you buy any one of these amazing ground coffee flavors, you are supporting the personality behind it. So whether it be Mary Morgan or Seamus or Phil or Josie the Redheaded Libertarian. We've also have K-Cups and definitely check it out, support the show. But again, don't forget to smash that like

button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show right now with everybody. Let's start with the news, my friends. We've got this from the DOJ, four aliens charged with election fraud in Pennsylvania. illegal alien from Haiti allegedly submitted eight fraudulent voter registration applications and also allegedly voted in the November 22 election. I'm going to pause there. First thing I know we're going to hear from our liberal counterparts is, oh, this is just four people. Hold on.

The issue is they're facilitating election fraud. Who were these eight fraudulent registrations for and this person already voted? So it's not about one vote. It's about a system. And it's about an avalanche. and it's going to be difficult because, of course, you can't go after every single snowflake that makes up that avalanche. Two, illegal alien from Mexico allegedly illegally voted in November 22 and 24. Trinidad and Tobago National allegedly illegally voted in the November 22 election.

A Mexican National allegedly illegally voted in the November 24 general election. Our sovereignty as a nation belongs to the American people and no one else. U.S. Attorney Metcalf said anyone, including illegal aliens who votes illegally in our elections will be prosecuted for corrupting our democracy. So there's the obvious question right off the bat that I've already opined upon. It's just four illegal aliens. Are we actually seeing enough from the DOJ that it will have an impact on the outcome of the

election? And that goes both ways. Are these four illegal aliens actually moving the needle in favor of any political party? and is the action for the DOJ going to be enough to change anything? Right now, the opinion from basically everybody is that Republicans are getting crushed. Well, the Republicans are definitely going to get cooked. Like, the situation, unless there's a dramatic, dramatic change in the United States before the election, you know, we're just over a month and, I think, a month and a half away or a month and a week away, they're done. As to whether or not these people matter, the headline said that they're facilitating.

So it's more than just obviously the four people. What are they doing? How many people are they facilitating? You know, what is facilitating mean? Does it mean that they're organizing illegals to vote? Does it mean that they're organizing the hundreds? Does it mean that there are more people like them that are organizing as well? So that I think is an important question.

But I don't know that these four individuals matter, but what's downstream from them possibly could, you know? Yeah, I mean, this is a tough one. because, okay, it's great. We got four charge and election fraud, but, you know, it probably requires a smoking gun with a volume of smoke that looks like a wildfire to back people for this. Because, I mean, you know, California, how many videos have we seen now in exposés on illegals voting in California? Granted, they're probably voting at the state level. But still, you know, without states forking over their election data, it's probably pretty hard to pin down anybody on this. And especially when, you know, Democrat states, they're not going to, they're going to do everything they can to prevent the federal government from looking at anything.

They've made it, you know, I think that California's passed legislation that says that the feds aren't allowed to look or something along those lines. So they're going to do everything they can to Stonewall. How, I'm curious because, you know, like, as I'm thinking about the story and even how I outlined it, it's a perception as to who's doing wrong. The perception from the liberals is that the right is overreacting. there's no voter fraud. It's minimal. Only four people. That's not going to change a thing. To the right, the left is entertaining non-citizen voting, allowing non-citizens to vote or to come in the country, and they're not trying to stop it. And you're not going to convince either liberal or conservative, staunch liberal conservative, that their worldview is incorrect. So how do we even

navigate the space? If in the end, Republicans end up somehow winning, the narrative is going to be among liberals that it was this. It was intimidating minorities. It was manipulating the results. The Supreme Court was in on it. When the Republicans lose, you're going to get a ton of conservative saying, oh, yeah, of course Trump lost. He's the most popular president, but it's because illegals are voting. This is the narrative that we've already had for a decade. I wonder if that's actually going to would pan out. I think that there's a lot. I think a lot of Republicans are aware of how, of how disappointed the electorate is with, the Republicans are with Democrat, or with Donald Trump.

Is that why the Republicans left Congress early and aren't doing their jobs? I have no idea why the Republicans left early and aren't doing their jobs. But I think that, well, I mean, it's because that's what Congress does. Yeah, that's what they do. But the, you know, most people in the U.S., you know, if you go by polls and stuff, they're really pretty uptight about the war in Iran and they're uptight about the gas prices. I think that they would be like, well, you know, he said he was going to do this stuff, and he didn't. And, you know, there's an element of truth.

Well, let me, let me ask you, Paul, do you think, I, this, like, I guess, I might be a little black pilly to point this out, but it feels like we're not mending. Like, the results of this election are just going to be acrimonious. There's no question. Look, Richard Barris, if you guys know him, very good pollster. He was, he was at the premier party that we did for the Bucks County USA show. and we went through some of the data in advance. I'm a classically trained data scientist,

my wife who's in the film, she's been a Google employee for 23 years on their data team. So we've looked at the data. It looks very bad for us, and Richard will tell you that. But I'll tell you one of the things we did learn in Pennsylvania

at the last election, there's a lot of stuff that isn't so much outright illegal, but really pushes the border. Like we saw a lot of mail-in ballads once the rules changed in Pennsylvania that got sent to a house and magically they then got dispersed

to a set of people like the kids who are in college who you're not supposed to be able to do that with. So there's a lot of stuff that really can tip the balance when it's close. Well, I suppose it doesn't matter then. Well, I mean, and this kind of goes to, look, this election fraud, security, our elections, et cetera. This is a top priority for Republican voters, obviously. And I think the evidence, I don't know if it's in the stack. We had Tim Mellon today, who's a mega donor to the Republican Party. last election cycle he pointed up $200 million.

I believe he was the guy that bailed out Congress when there was the government shut down and they weren't going to pay the military. I think Tim Mellon was the one who stepped up. If you go to his Wikipedia, the last picture they have of them is from the 70s. But he's like this kind of, he's from the Carnegie Mellon, the Mellon part of the Carnegie Mellon family, you know, Gilded Age, billionaire, et cetera. Anyway, $200 million when he ponied up last, and this is what he's planning on doing this cycle. He revised it all the way down to $5 million.

So he's cut $195 million out of the purse of the Republican Party. Why he cited specifically frustration that the SAVE Act didn't pass. So yes, Republican voters are obviously upset about Iran. But additionally, you know, as much as this is on the Trump administration for the Iran war, a majority of this, I mean, we're talking about midterms. We're talking about electing Republican congressmen. It's frustration that this Republican Congress can't get anything done. something as popular as the Save Act, something that should be a home run, doesn't get passed.

Now it's not just voters complaining on Twitter or even maybe not showing up a high enough turnout. It's quite literally mega donors, you know, closing the checkbook on Republicans. And Tim Mellon, you know, putting his money where his mouth is, that should petrify these guys. It's like, you know, I mean, it's kind of a joke that I have. I'm like, you know, we get on a podcast and we're like, why won't the Save Act pass? But, I mean, you know, there is something to that because that really does erode. Republican voters' faith in Congress if you can't get basic stuff like this across,

because this kind of stuff poses people off being, okay, it's four people, but I think everyone can repeat between the lines here. This is probably tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, even, of fraudulent votes being cast in this country, and we can only get four pinned down. Additionally, you could probably just solve this problem

with the SAVE Act. We can't get that passed. So everyone's like, well, what's the point of voting? You know, if I'm just going to get outvoted by someone that shouldn't even be in the country, you know, a lot of people are thinking along those lines. Yeah, like obviously Donald Trump's going to take the brunt of the heat because he's the president, but I do wonder how many people are going to say, are actually saying, you know,

if they can't do, if Congress won't do the things that I want them to do, that I've, you know, voted for them to do or I elected them to do, SAVE Act being one of the biggest things that has, you know, popular support on both the right and the left, and most Americans say this is a no-brainer. If they refuse to do that, maybe there is a portion of the elector that's like, well, it is Congress. That's a problem. And considering this is a midterm, which has historically lower turnout than the presidential election, maybe they're just like, well, there's no point in voting for the Republicans because they won't even do the simple things that I want. Yeah.

And there's something, too, as well, about, like, getting what you want from the GOP. So, you know, okay, voters, as voters, we're frustrated at something. our main reason why we vote Republican at this point, certainly in a midterm, is not voting for the Republicans, but simply to keep Democrats out of power, right? That's the main impetus. I think every one of us that's probably going to consider or vote Republican in a next month is probably voting, not because we're in love with the candidate on the ballot. I can name like five that I'd be excited to vote for, certainly none of my precinct. But most people are going to the ballot box simply to keep the Democrats out. But a lot of these mega donors do get, what they want. And part of it, like Tim Mellon, is because he says, you don't get the Save Act pass. This will screw you. I'm taking my, I'm taking your money away, well, my money away. And that's something that they have the power to do that. Republican voters don't necessarily have. And so this is why, you know, some people come out and they're like, well, maybe we should just not even vote, you know, as a protest. And, you know, it's, I don't think it should be

completely scoffed at when you look at how Tim Mellon has approached this issue. I mean, I plan on voting Republican, but, again, the reason I'm voting Republican is simply just to keep the Democrats out. Because it's not like they're going to codify any of Trump's agenda. They barely ever do. Let's jump to the story. We've got this from CNN. Their latest poll, Trump's midterm woes deepen amid worsened economic backdrop, CNN poll. Well, I don't care too much about a single poll from CNN. It still is fair to point out, look, you've got a global diesel shortage likely to last into 2027. You've got the U.S. Correct me, guys, or inform, because I've been out for earlier this week. Have they made moves on that diesel export ban? We talked about it.

Are they doing that? Because, I mean, let's just put it like this. When you've got that as a potential measure, when you need Venezuelan crude to offset the draining of the SPR, the economy's not doing well. And there are areas where it's okay and we're seeing weird things happening. But I think it's all indicative of a major collapse. So let me put it this way. Actually, Paul, you might be a bit more of an expert on this than I. But people, People seem to be nobody's buying property anymore. Prices are collapsing. Nobody can't afford to.

Young people aren't buying property, but we are seeing a lot of gambling. So where, where, I think this is a bad sign. Me, like me personally, everybody knows me. I'm not morally opposed to people wanting to go out with a night of friends or to make some bets here and there. The issue is when young people aren't saving and you do see them going to casinos, when you do see middle class people going on vacations, it looks like doomer spending. Like the mentality is it's not going to get better. Screw it. Let's just do whatever. I think the state of the economy is actually

very bad. And I think it's a nuclear bomb for Trump. Actually, let me let don't even ignore my opinion. Starbucks is shuttering 250 stores in its second wave of closing. That's the story that freaked me out. Yeah, and it's exactly right. Your mortgage rates are now at two-year high again, at two-year highs, and vice spending is countercyclical. I was on the board of Fandall for a decade. I was the first investor in Fandle when it was seven people in Scotland. And so I saw the entire sequence from being a little fringy fantasy sports company all the way to it being the world's largest sports betting company now. And you will always see that vice spending is countercyclical and does. not go down in a recession. It's one of the few things that is recession proof. That makes total sense. I mean, because that's something I was going to speculate was, I mean, I guess another way to phrase it is like misery consumption of something. Like you would also see this was probably alcohol use. So the instance of zoomers, probably pot usage increases massively during recessions because zoomers don't drink anymore. They've supplemented it with marijuana. But yeah,

I mean, you're seeing a lot of these indicators that like people don't even really, uh, perceive themselves of having a future in the country. But this kind of like splits. There's like half of people that absolutely do feel like that. That's why you're seeing the birth rate, specifically among white Americans slightly rebound. But again, among younger people, again, people that aren't in that traditional range, age range to start having children, you're seeing like, again, really high rates of behaviors that would indicate they're not doing too hot. And then as far as, you know, the diesel export ban, that's likely going to happen. Again, bad indicator for the United States, but it's going to be an economic reality for Europe.

I mean, I know we have a lot of viewers from Europe. I mean, I was talking to Connor Tomlinson today, and he was like, dude, a quarter of our diesel is imported from the United States. He's like, and for context, Connor is British. He's like, the shock here is going to be absolutely nuts. You look over in Germany, they're already paying 11 bucks a gallon for diesel. It's going to get. They're going to have none.

Yeah, I mean, I think you're going to see some serious political turmoil over there, which is probably what they need. be fair, but it makes you wonder like, okay, well, things are this bad in the United States. You look around the rest of the developed world. I mean, they're having the same problems in East Asia because that a crystal ball into our future. I mean, I don't really know because, I mean, again, Scott Bessent the other day came out and he said, I don't know how long this war is going to go on. It could be six months. It could be longer. He didn't have an answer. And so you're like, well, if that's the economic secretary who is probably in charge of community into the

American people, I got this under control. The economy is going to rebound. And he's basically trying to soften the blow to the American people of like, hey, no, this is probably going to get worse or at least be as bad it is right now. It's not my fault. You know, the Iran war can continue our persecution. So you're just seeing all of these indicators. And I'm like, I'm not trying to doom. I'm not trying to black pill here. But I think it really just illustrates how badly things have been screwed up in 2026. The Trump administration has done a lot of great things. I mean, you know, you know, these like land acknowledgement thing in conservative media. You know, he's done some good things. On immigration, I'd be the first one to admit. I mean,

gone to the mat on this that Trump's doing it was an immigration, but you look at the macro. It's like whatever gains you've made in certain policy sectors like immigration, it gets wiped out if you can't win an election. It gets wiped out if you're going to get wiped out in the midterms. So it's like great work there, but we're about to get buried in the midterms. And now 2028's a question mark. When this time last year, you know, vibes were so high. It was looking like a cakewalk. Yeah. It's the economy, stupid. It's always the economy. I mean, I say it all the time, like people, you know, like I was saying back in March, like the Republicans could take the election if the economy was good, but that wasn't a guarantee that they were going to take the election, right?

They're definitely not going to take the election if the economy's bad. And to the average person on the street, $5 a gallon gas means the economy's bad. That's like it's as pure and simple as that. There's a lot of people that, especially in the aughts when the Iraq war was going on, no war for oil, no war for oil. even those people if they were paying $10 a gallon for gas they would stop saying no for no war for oil like oil is literally like the foundation of modern society still and so if you can't afford to fill your tank if you can't afford to go to the grocery store to get groceries that you can't afford you're going to vote for whoever is not the the the part of the in power. And we're going to see that in November. Yeah. I mean, look, at the end of the day, the moderates voted for Trump because they saw things like inflation under Biden and said he's going to fix it. And now when it's not fixed, somebody's going to have to answer for that. And that's unfortunately what I'm worried about in six weeks, eight weeks. I agree. Part of the thing that one of the things that people were pushing about, or one of the reasons that people were like, oh, you know, inflation's so bad,

they haven't seen the necessary rise of wages, right, to fix it. So they were. thinking, like people will say, oh, you know, everything's too expensive. But the reason why people don't think that is because their dollar goes far enough. The wages that that generally rise to meet in inflation, it hasn't happened. It hasn't materialized yet. And that's a long-term problem. And that's just a reality of economics. But still, until you get people feeling like they can afford to live their lives, you're done at the polls. I don't know what I was down compared to last year. Yeah. You know what I was thinking with just like

I don't want to spill the beans on any private stuff but you know having gone to L.A. and talked with just say people in media. Holy crap, that's a gigantic flaw. He's huge. He's flying around like crazy in here. Someone's got to take him out.

I think the internet has become to real life. I think the internet used to be your escape from real life. You know, you'd go to work, you'd go to business. Then you come home, you go online and you'd look up stories, you'd read things and it was kind of an escape. But now that work has become the internet

everyone's basically checking out. And the reason why I think that's relevant to this is that politics is no longer in the forefront of what their lives are. I think it became too real. And then people are like, I need an escape from real life. So they're going back to real life. They're kind of just chilling out and saying, I don't want to hear it. This means people are detaching from what was this, you know, 10-year period of hyper news of politics as pop culture. it may go back to people largely just don't care anymore. We didn't get the changes we were hoping for. There were some victories, but we didn't get the big changes we were hoping for.

Cancell Culture is still here. Ed Sheeran's crying on stage. And I feel it, man. I feel it personally. It's, you know, burnout isn't the right word. And Black Pill isn't the right word either. It's kind of a, I'm just so tired of saying the same thing and hearing the same thing and debating the same. and debating the same things. And now here we are with a new quagmire in the Middle East,

economic woes, this time it may be worse than ever. And I feel like most people are just like, I'm staying home. That's what's really going to impact the Republican. So to Tate's point about, you know, we're voting to keep the Democrats out, I agree, but I feel like a lot of people are like, that doesn't matter if they're in or not. Republicans don't do anything. Well, and some of these candidates that are on some of these tickets are so bad that like you don't even really know if you're keeping the Democrats out insofar as the way that this governor is going to conduct himself, you know, isn't going to be that much like meaningfully different from the, from the Democrat that would come in and people like get so, you know, upset about this. But like, I'm not here to do a get out

the vote. Like I'm just trying to, again, as a political comment, like communicate what I'm seeing, how I'm viewing this. And I'm like, again, you're looking at a few of these, especially governor's races, and you're like, I mean, again, how are they meaningfully going to govern any different? The senators is obviously a bit of a different story because we're talking about, you know, if Alito or Thomas goes down, we need votes. That's kind of my thinking for the Senate. It's like, okay, well, it's really about this room court. But you look at some of these governors' races and you're like, if I live in that state, I mean, it would be really hard to, you know, take time out of your day to go and vote. You're like, what is there to get super excited about? I understand what you're

saying, but I just put a link in the Slack Tim. And it's Hassan Piker talking about Democrats, right? And he's saying, you know, he's talking, he says stuff like, I want to throw, I want to throw you in prison. I want Chinese style communism to happen inside the Democratic Party right now. I want to do Cultural Revolution S. And the thing is, I get what you're saying, but people like Parker, like, like Piker are route through the Democrat party. Oh, yeah. And so if you end up with Democrats in control of the House and the Senate, God for. bid they get the presidency in two years because this is this is a recipe for disaster for the United States of America yeah you know and and so the I understand that you know the economy's

rough right now and people are hurting and I again like you said it's like we're not trying to do it get out the vote here but the future that is possible with Democrats in control and that's a great thing to what I bring up is an absolute nightmare. Well, I agree, but that's my point is that like that we're already on the back foot where it's like the entire pitch for the Republicans right now is look at us on Piker. And it's like, that works for us because we're all like, you know, you know, people reading the news or whatever. But again, like your average Joe pulled the lever for Trump because he saw him on Joe Rogan's podcast or whatever. Like that's not going to cut it. Let me, let me jump to this poll.

I think you guys talked about the other day, but I want to pull this up from the Center for Strategic Politics. Democrats want Trump out by almost any means necessary. 75% very positive and 12% somewhat positive want Trump impeached and convicted. Okay. 70, very positive with 14 somewhat positive using the 25th Amendment. Trump has been declared unfit and removed. Trump dying overnight in his sleep enjoys 55% positivity from Democrats. Yeah, because then they can safeguard the Constitution,

a group of U.S. military leaders have removed Trump from power. This is insane. 43% very positive, 16% somewhat positive. We have 59% of Democrats finding it a positive that a military coup be waged against the democratically elected president. Here's the worst. 23% positive, 9% somewhat positive. Trump being assassinated. This is what I am trying to keep out of office.

Now, we all saw that story of the lesbian COVID bar. If you don't know the story, I'll give you the quick gist. It's a lesbian bar in Massachusetts. You had to wear a mask. It's years after the pandemic. Nobody wears masks. There's no mask mandate. So they were going under.

They were not getting business. They announced Saturday night, just Saturday night, it would be optional to wear a mask. They got death threats. They were accused of being white supremacists. Ridiculous. Abelist white supremacists committing a genocide against the disabled community. I'm not kidding.

They got blasted by these comments. That's like 20 minutes from my house in New Hampshire. We need to stop pretending that these comments are real life. We need to stop pretending that these replies that you guys get represent customers to your business who want to buy a bakery fresh cinnamon bun. once we realize that we can actually move forward in this country with real debates and for the moderate liberals who just don't like Trump, you will win more elections when you join us in pointing out these people are bad. But unfortunately for us, I guess, even with this CSP poll, looks like just more than half of Democrats want Trump to die. Yeah. So good luck America, man.

Well, and what's so interesting about that data, as you can like butcher sit with, listening to someone like Hassan Piker, for example, is, you know, the way that conservative commentators, when they're talking about the Republican Party, they're like, they're so ineffective, they don't do anything, they're not sufficiently right-wing enough, et cetera. Asan Piker has the same exact criticisms of the Democrat Party. If you listen to the way that people like him talk, they're saying, these Democrats don't do anything. They're always sitting around. So, like, you kind of understand, too, it's a bit of an arms race. Now, the Democrat Party is obviously a bit more active than the Republican Party. I think that'd be fair to say because the Democrat Congress was in lockstep with Trump, or not Trump's agenda a lot more than the Republican Congress is with Trump's agenda. Like, for example, Trump has been, like, demanding this AVE Act passed,

and he collaborated with Paxton on some ops to get that conducted. It still hasn't passed. But from their perspective, the Democrat Party is also not sufficiently, you know, left-wing. enough. And so yeah, it is kind of this arms racist Mexican standoff, but I'd be curious to see what this polling would reflect on the Republican Party, where I think the majority of Republicans would be pretty horrified to imagine, you know, President Biden just dying outright. I mean, I would find that pretty sad. Like, I'm human enough to just like not want people to just die. But, you know, I think this does demonstrate a difference in the way that they actually just

perceive life. This is why the dying overnight in his sleep, is shocking because that 55% positivity. Because I got to be honest, if they were neutral on it, people who hated Trump were like, well, the balance there is, if you said, it sucks that he died, but we really think he's a bad leader. I could understand that argument. It sucks, it is. But the wanting a military coup, 60%. I mean, that's insane.

That's their identity. This is what I've learned from my experience being in Bucks County. I live in the purplest part of the purplest state in the country, right? You can't win the presidency without Pennsylvania, and it's tough to win Pennsylvania without Bucks County. That's why the film I'm in was about our conflict, because it's a very important place. And what you realize, it's about their identity, Tim. That's what it's about. And the reason that they say what they say on this poll is it validates their identity

to lash out and make a statement like this so they can feel good about themselves. And it's very difficult to ever have a rational conversation with the person who feels that. way yeah i mean i i i don't disagree with anything anyone's saying uh not substantially but yeah there are like there are times where i feel like kyle rice just screaming about like the future is going to be so terrible right like i'm like from the terminator like if the democrats get control of the government the way that they had control of the government when barok obama was elected right the super majority you are going to see sweeping changes like sweeping changes and America will never be the same.

The situation in California where Republicans just cannot win, like they've got little enclaves down in Orange County. There's a lot of Republicans. There's Republicans spread out through the desert. That's going to be the whole country. Like there will be a, there will not be a situation where Republicans can win because the Democrats will change the rules.

So that way they win. And again, I bring up California because this is the way it works. people in California, like they, they just say, well, you know, that's what the law is. But the law is literally allowing them to cheat. And it's not cheating because it's legal. That's right. It's not actually cheating. And then so people have a simple way to stop the argument.

Well, that's the law. Change the law then. And it's like, how do you change the law when you can't get anyone elected? Well, you can't. So you're stuck. And it's, you know, I don't, I don't, we talk about, you know, civil conduct. here enough and I don't want to get into that but you know that is a real possibility especially when the people that are young people in the Democrat party are pretty extreme when you see these kind of

numbers yeah when when when they look at the Republican president with this kind of of of derision and and this kind of of of animosity they look at and not just the president because they look at Republicans generally the Maga Republicans they look at Maga Republicans as the same way they look at Donald Trump. And they will think, well, we have to save our democracy. We have to save our democracy from these people. So we have to make sure that they're disenfranchised, essentially. We can't allow their voice to be heard. We can't allow them to influence our democracy because it's our democracy. It's not their democracy. It's not theirs. We have control. And it's a word game, yeah. But at the end of the day, that is a very real possibility in either 2028 or 2032.

for when if if the president is a democrat with with a with a Congress that's swept by Democrats yeah well I mean this is this is like the key difference between the two parties ultimately is like the North Star of the Democrat Party is has a much stronger pull for voters it's much easier to mobilize along because their North Star is ultimately just anti-white fundamentally that is like what everything kind of points back to this is why Zoran Mnani like cites Nelson Mandela South Africa so it's like ideal system he says he's like a had the big admirer of South Africa, and we've seen how things have gone there.

For the Republican Party, our North Star is, like, very vague, difficult to, like, truly describe. No one can really even agree on, like, what the definition is. It's just these vague ideas of, like, freedom and liberty. And, again, like, this kind of blurry picture of, like, the 1980s is broadly, I think, what the North Star is for the Republicans. You can't really mobilize on that, because if you ask, like, go to the RNC and ask me, what do you think freedom is? What do you think liberty is like no one's going to have any agreement it's going to be all boilerplate you know what what do you want to go back the 1980s it's like okay well that was just an earlier stage of liberalism so it's like the the the left has something really the democrat party broadly has something that

they can mobilize on very quickly they know exactly what to do again taking apart is much easier than building um you know redistributionist policies that's very motivating for voters republicans are just like i don't know let's like keep this all together let's let's not like start dismantling things. It's just, it's, it's, it's really hard to compete with. So, I mean, that's kind of, I mean, this is something people have been saying for a long time on the right, but it's like the Republican Party really does need to come up with a way to, or rather they need to come up with a message that is like pro something.

It's like providing a vision of the American people. Trump did this with Make America Great again. But, you know, once you start having these problems like Iran, that falls apart quickly. I, I described the Democratic Party the same way I would. in terms of what the politicians, how they behave, how they act. I would say that strategy, I see it so similarly in the Republican Party these days. And there's a, I call it the chicken coop naivete. That is, I'm rather shocked, actually.

It is true that we ended up in this war. We ended up in this gas shortage. The economy is in the position that it's in because Trump's first term was pretty good. But I wonder if all of that lawfare and just battering down of Trump, finally broke him and he lets in the wolves into the henhouse and we end up with war conflict crisis because that's what the machine wanted. Well, he seems to be a lot, let me think out of word this while being like, because I do mean this like with politeness.

He seems to be a lot less active, especially in 2026. Like he doesn't really seem to be, he doesn't seem to have as many irons in the fires he did last year, certainly compared to the first term. Like when he's in these press pools and whatnot, he's like talking about. about the ballroom and like the Trump arc and stuff or arch arc to Trump whatever you call it. And I'm like, I mean, those are cool. Like I'd like to get those built, but it's not really too high on the priority list. I think Trump is kind of like doing his thing.

I think part of what's going on there is he's not on Twitter anymore. He's not even, according to some reporting, he's not even really watching Fox anymore. Like he's pretty much just on truth social, watching Fox every once in a while. So he's not really like seeing a lot of what's happening right now. He's like when in first term, he's on Twitter all day long. He's tweeting a lot. Now it's just these super long posts on truth social that, you know, he's dictated to someone. So I think that's part of what's going on.

I think Trump is just, he's older now. He's just like a lot less active, maybe would be the word to use. And so, you know, in these moments, you kind of have to look around and be like, all right, who's going to be the torch bear here? That's when you kind of look over at Congress. It's like, okay, well, we elect you to do to carry out Trump's agenda. Like, let's get moving here. you know, crickets. So, you know, I think I think that's partially what's going on with Trump

is, yeah, I think he's always been, he's always been persuadable by people he trusts as well. And I think there's people in his inner circle that really wanted to see this Iran war carried out. Yeah, I think he was bleeding allies around the time the war took place. So when you're bleeding allies, you start to look at who your biggest cheerleaders are. At that time, it was like Laura Lumer. or it was like Mark Levin. Well, Trump's maintained his core base. He's lost the coalition, though. The coalition meaning there's a lot of moderates

and a lot of libertarians. I do think, however, the big issue is not so much that people are mad at Trump. When it comes to your regular person, you're walking down the street and talk to him, more so they're indifferent. There's no enthusiasm right now. It feels like we're not accomplishing anything.

It feels like we're drifting away from the light at the end of the tunnel. And the left is highly motivated right now. So that's why I think the prediction markets are swinging heavily in their favor and it's looking apocalyptic for the right. Then the GOP decides to leave. We're going to cut it early, goodbye, and they just go home. So they could be, you know, to be fair, to be fair, I will say this. Maybe the reason they called it early is to get everybody campaigning.

They want to get them out of D.C. into the streets. So that could be the reason. But it does look miserably bad. That's how desperate they are. They come off as lazy. Well, and the common sentiment I'm hearing from people, just again, people from back home, family, people that are Republicans, their patriots. And I kind of share this to you actually a bit is the thing they're saying isn't, they're not attacking Trump. Like when you go on Twitter, people are just attacking Trump or whatever.

What they're saying is almost the opposite, which is if Trump can't get it done, I don't know who can. And I kind of share that sentiment. I'm like, if someone as, and it's a positive attribute for the president as stubborn as President as President Trump, as President Trump is, can still be persuaded to go to war with Iran. I don't know who could, like, withstand that. I mean, because there's clearly mechanisms, there's lobbies. I mean, you have like the, you know, the Israel lobby. You have the military industrial complex lobby.

You know, multiple people lining up for this war to be carried out. I mean, if he couldn't withstand that, you look around, you're like, well, the bench isn't going to withstand that anymore. So that's the sentiment I'm hearing from people is not like, you know, Trump's, betrayed us or whatever. They're just like more disappointed, but it's kind of what they expected from government, which is depressing. They didn't expect good governance. And they're like, if Trump couldn't do it, I don't know who. Here's a, here's the Kalshi balance of power for the midterms. Democrat sweep is at 61%. The chance of Republican holding the Senate is the prediction markets have at 32. It improved a little bit. It dropped and it went back up maybe a point or two.

somehow there's a Republican sweep at 8%. I ain't taking that bet. Yeah. Yeah, well, the Democrat Senate dip was because of the Peralta tapes or the Peralta files. I just, and I can't stand the, listen, I understand for the Trump diehards and the Republican diehards, they're like, we got to maintain morale and say that we're going to get it. We're going to win. But at the same time, dude, the people that are like, no way, this is all fake. The media is lying.

And Trump's going to win. I'm just like, the economy. is bad. Everybody knows it. Starbucks is closing locations. I mean, that should be screaming in your face. We're seeing more things like this. But people look to certain vanity metrics are like, I don't know. Things are looking pretty good. No. What is the debt? The interest on the debt is the third highest expense. Yep. It has been for like the past year. We're at $40 trillion. Now, a lot of people don't know what that means. Let me break it down for you. The government is going to have to spend most of its money to pay the interest on the debt instead of funding services. So we are about to get hit

by a tsunami. And whoever's in power at the time, they're going to feel the brunt of that to their face. Democrats will use it right now to take power. Republicans' only real opportunity is procedure, winning in courtrooms and changing the rules. Well, and to your first point you made about people kind of just hand-waving way of the polls, I'm like, I've seen this story before. I don't know if people remember the 2022 midterms when everyone was saying, okay, the polling saying the Democrats are going to pick up Pennsylvania, they're going to keep the Senate or whatever, but the Republicans are going to win the House. Well, actually, the vibes, it feels like the Republicans are going to, it's a red wave incoming. You know, it feels like that. And then

election day came and the polls were like broadly correct. I mean, obviously they were going to screw up a few races. But like, again, data did kind of trump vibes in that instance. And then so yeah, so people are like saying it's like a repeat at 2022. Everyone's like, okay, look, the polling says we're underwater, but the vibes are with the Republicans. And I'm like, first of all, I don't even know if the vibes are, I mean, clearly the vibes are not there. Because in 2022, I was like, I kind of got that feeling of like, okay, everyone really hates Biden,

whatever. And then additionally, the polling's worse than it was in the last two midterm cycles for Republicans. So I'm just not seeing it. You know, again, I would be delighted to be proven wrong. But yeah, I just don't understand. I don't understand this impetus to be like, well, vibes are going to triumph over the data that we have. No, that's not happening at all.

Like I said, like I said, at the end of the day, if you've got a bad economy, the public takes it out on the party in power. That's all there is to it. That is like the iron law of elections. If there is a bad economy, the people will take it out on the people in power. No matter whether it was their fault or not, right? Like if the Democrats were in power right now, if they had the White House and the House and the Senate, people would be all, you know, all in for voting for Republicans. It's just people vote with their pocketbooks. It's kitchen table issues before anything.

It's the economy stupid. The most important thing for any politician is making sure that the economy is working for the American people. because the laws that they pass generally they don't affect everybody. They affect certain groups of people here and there. Some people will get a little bit of a bump. Some people will get a little bit of a hit. But most laws that the federal government passes, they don't affect people or the people that do get affected.

They're not aware of how they're being affected. But the cost of gas affects everybody. The prices at the grocery store affect everybody. So, I mean, I don't know how to say it any. know how to say it any more simple. It is the economy. It's always been the economy. Well, and again, I think because so many people understand the state of politics, it's an enthusiasm thing. So for the culture warrior voters, the Republicans did not deliver a little bit. Again, you know, like the like tape says the land acknowledgement, like Trump did good things,

immigration, USAID. But the day-to-day stuff, it feels like we had this Republican trifecta and nothing's changed. You know, again, I understand. ID's gone, immigration stuff. But culturally, we're not seeing these victories. We are not seeing the arrests that we want to see. You know, I think Cash Patel is doing a great job. He's doing a lot of, you know, boots on the ground, street level crime, criminal law enforcement. So he's getting a lot of criminals off the streets. But people wanted to see a resolution to this 10-year conflict. And we didn't get it. So maybe it's just not going to happen. Last night, Dr. Elfenbein was on about and he went through his story about what happened to him during

COVID and stuff. And it was, it was a really good reminder of how, just how incredibly bad the government behaved in regards to COVID, the things that the government did. And, you know, it reminded me all the people that are really upset about the fact that there's nothing that's going to happen to anyone. And all of the horrible, horrible stories that you're you hear about people having to watch family members die from a different room. They're looking at them through the window. Ron was talking about, you know, kids that were terminal that passed away and their parents couldn't go in the room.

The people that are upset about the COVID stuff and knowing that nothing's going to happen, that Biden's pardoned, everybody involved for, you know, whatever, 15 years prior. I mean, it's no surprise that people are pissed off that nothing's done. Let's show to the story from the New York Times. An army of paid creators is carpeting the web with political content. It's all fake. And we've pointed this out on the show several times. You'll go on Instagram or TikTok and you will see the same video 5,000 times.

And there's two reasons for this. The first is a lot of it's paid. So we actually got a confession from some guy. this same account, Drew Yaps, and talk about my experience with it. And it's really fucked up, though, because you have so much stuff on your reels that isn't labeled as ads. It's just people making videos about stuff that really is an ad. And especially when it starts to become something in like the political realm, you know, talking about, oh, like prices are super expensive here. Like they always wanted us to mention the local policymakers, you know, not affecting or like not

creating the change about it and like calling them greedy and shit and it's really really fucked up when you think about it that the amount of brainwashing that is taking place in social media i was considering if i really want to do this or not but i'm bored so figure it might as well just make this video so i'm going to be addressing the videos on my account so everything i posted on the account uh drew yes apps, all of it was paid for. So it was user generated content. It was through this app, which they basically paid me retainer and then any view bonuses to make TikToks slash Instagram Reels about whatever content they wanted me to do. So they were paying me to post a very left-leaning stuff about how Texas was super

expensive and how it has been hard for me living in Texas. I don't even fucking live in Texas. I'm from Utah, I'm in Florida right now. They kick me off the campaign, like absolute assholes. So, yeah. I figured I would come on back onto this same account, Drew Yaps, and talk about my experience with it. And it's really fucked up, though,

because you have so much stuff on your reels. Oh, okay, that's the loop, right? So it's all fake. It is horrifyingly fake. and effective. Regular people scrolling through their TikToks and they see all of these people saying the same thing. You know, guys, I, I, this is what, this is the, this is the black pill right here. How can you effectively inform a population incapable of realizing they're being played? and on the other side of the spectrum, believing everything is a manipulation. So if we simultaneously have all of these videos, I don't know about every single one that New York Times posted here, but I have seen it where it's the exact same post.

What they're talking about is someone's like it's more expensive being in Texas than it is L.A. I've seen those. And I've complained about it, how they're identical over and over again. Then you have people spam blasting the comments saying that we are getting. paid here at Timcast by a foreign government, completely fake. This is one of the reasons why I think a lot of people are tuning out why we see viewership decline because, man, you know, it's just so wild because we predicted this. They flooded the zone with noise. Then network started buying up big shows. They are making it so that no one will want to use social media. This is how they

end the decentralized media system, the independent media system. Everyone's going to be like, I just can't because every time you open up Instagram or YouTube, all you hear is someone screaming at the top of their lungs like nails on a chalkboard, so they tune out. It's this. This is why I can't stand Instagram. I go on. And this is why, you know, I mentioned this a couple weeks ago, I've been watching all these liberal commenters. I dove in. I started seeing so many of the same videos, I started intentionally going to their profiles and looking at their videos, see what they were doing. And then seeing how many of them are producing identical videos. It's just, you open the Instagram app and what do you get? Some, some person is literally screaming at the top of their lungs. No, no, no, no,

I don't say figuratively. Literally. I can't tell you how many videos I've seen where people desperate for attention instead of just saying, you know, guys, I was reading the news here. Here's how I feel. The video's open with them saying something like, those fat, imbred mega! And I'm like, oh my God. There's literally one video where a guy's driving his car, and all he does is screams his opinion. The Republican Hits! How many of those exist? It's endless.

There's one more thing, though, that you left out from this article. AI allows you to record at one time, upload 70 avatars, and make 70 different versions of the exact same video. with the exact same talk track. One is a black woman, one is a white guy, one as a Chinese gal. You name it. One video, 70 versions of it, all saying the exact same thing. And that's one of the scariest parts of that article. Yeah, it's hard to, it's hard to go a day without talking about AI just because it's going to, like, it's already having a massive impact.

Even people that don't realize it. I think I've said this before on the show, but like, used to be people would go and they would type in. something on Google because they're looking for something. But now that you type in your question into the Google Space Bar or into the Google Search Bar and it'll give you the answer. We didn't leave it out, actually. We have this video here. I'll show you just a few seconds of this.

To Jesus Christ, Charlie Kirk, who is. Let me jump ahead because I don't know what the point of that intro part is. Weird ways. Just address it when it happens as soon as you can safely. Amen. I'm building a weather app that will show the weather three-dimensionally because people like, Oh, a hurricane is a flat plane of, no, it's a big sphere that's undulating and twisting over the earth and sucking up water like a sponge over rivers and lakes. So I'm building an app with AI that's going to show you that.

It will be live one of these days. And many of you are like, Tim, why did you play that clip of Ian? Because I want to show you this clip from our sister show, Jimcast URL, where Aaron was going on a rant about the weather. And Bill, Bill's reaction was priceless. I'm building a weather app that will show the weather three-dimensionally because people are like, oh, a hurricanes, a sphere is a flat plane. No, it's a big sphere that's undulating and twisting over the earth and sucking up water like a sponge over rivers and lakes. So I'm building an app with AI that's going to show you that. It will be live one of these days.

I'm excited. I feel terrible. I ruined the punchline on you. Sorry for jumping on that. No, you're good. So I took this clip that I said. saw Phil post that was absolutely hilarious. And I ran it through, it's called, it's Higgs Field Genjutsu, is the AI app.

And it transformed Ian into this redheaded woman and Phil into Bill. I didn't tell it to change Phil. What I did was I chose this as a reference video and chose an AI generated woman character to make Ian. And it just made Phil a different person. Look, what is that phone? It's the view counter in the bottom right. Yeah, it turns it into a microphone or something.

Like, what is that? I don't even know what's going on. Higgsfield has some weird phone there. Well, I probably didn't understand what it was, but that's your point is exactly why I brought that up. One person records one video, then loads it into an AI, and then also uploads 15 different fake AI-generated people, clicks render, and they get just instantly 15 different versions of the same. same political talking point, and they can spam blast it out through a network of accounts that these accounts exist where people will, they'll just post random video content, they'll re-upload news clips just to get a base following and to exist. That way, when they get a campaign, hey, we'll give you 10 bucks to play this video. They will play the video and then

all of a sudden you go on Instagram and you see 700 people all being like, I'm voting Democrat. it. That's how, that's how the, so look, you guys, you know, I'm going to be honest with you. I am, it's demoralizing. It really, really is. If people are really just not smart enough, then what is the argument against, quote, some people must work at McDonald's? I mean, look, asman gold, there isn't one. Asman Gold likes to describe it as like there are some people that are best suited to make big rocks into little rocks, right? There's not really anything that you can train them to do. So then why try to do a show to inform a population when the population is incapable

of being informed? Well, the reason to do a show is because there are enough people that can be informed and that can be motivated to go out and vote. And the best idea, well, no voting doesn't matter. If we're dealing with this and this is the basis by which people are choosing their leaders, then the best thing to do is. to change this show into a finance show so that people smart enough to try and suss out

what's true or not can make sound financial investments and we all get rich and then with money can have influence over the system. Just pay for AI creators. No, that's illegal. This is what's really crazy. That's illegal? It is illegal to do an ad without, without, it's a,

it borders some of its criminal depending on how and why you did it. Typically though, anytime you're paid to promote something or post a video, You have to disclose it. Otherwise, it's a civil violation. So it's like it is illegal, but the penalty is a fine or something. So that's what that guy was saying, that they're not disclosing that these are ads.

And indeed, all of these are advertisements or fake. Because otherwise, imagine what would happen if, I don't know, I offered to pay people to just make a bunch of videos quoting Tim Kasten, talking about how great the show is. Yeah. They would have to disclose that they were paid to do it. But this is the world we live in. So yeah, maybe let's just go over financial strategy and sound ways to make money. Well, you said you're depressed, but I do think. I didn't say depressed. I said demoralized.

Sorry, I used the wrong word. But demoralized. I do think there is one thing that we need to focus on, especially the conservatives that we haven't done enough of since COVID. It's on education. You need to teach these kids critical thinking skills. And COVID woke us up about what was going on in the classrooms or the lack of classrooms because kids were at home.

And I feel like we lost a lot of that over these last six years. And if we're ever going to have a populace that doesn't make you demoralized, it's going to be because they actually have these critical thinking skills. We've got to bring that back. Well, I mean, I know what you're saying,

but like, I guess, you know, when you've got enough of the accounts or enough accounts that are posting the same thing, you'd think that people, because again, these are exactly, the same narrations. It's just a different person posting it. You'd think that people would realize, but I feel like it's not really, they don't consciously know that these are the same things. It's just reinforcing the idea. You know, it's not like they're trying to, you know,

sway people. They're trying to make sure people kind of have ingrained in them, oh, the Democrats are good, the Republicans are bad, or whatever the narrative is, right? If there were Republicans doing it, it would be Republicans good, Democrats bad. So I don't know that critical thinking, would actually solve it because this isn't about having something that you think. It's reinforcing a narrative that you already believe. I feel like the people that fell for it before are just the same ones that would fall for it again. I want to read this super chat. You know, we normally save it, but this one's relevant.

Maine ex-community says, don't be demoralized. We're all here and want to destroy the DSA, destroy the global news, access, Russia, Iran, China, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. Luke R. and A.J. are crying nonstop about Iran, but crippling Iran is key. like we did with Maduro, Cuba, Greenland, new gen cartel fight. The reason I wanted to read that is the demoralization is in political power is not going to be found in voting for these people. And the people who are voting for these members of Congress, be it Democrat or Republican, don't even know what they're voting for or why are ridiculously and easily manipulated.

They get extremely angry and many of them get violent. But the real means of influence and power is money. So the best thing for our audience is not for us to discuss the goings out of the world, but to discuss the goings out of the world in the context of who you shorten who you buy so that we all get rich, then we have influence over the system. Yeah. Money dictates policy more than the votes ever did. And we've got the studies from numerous institutions.

I think one of the more recent ones in the past 10 years showed that I've, I've, I forgot how they put it, but like 60% of legislation came at the request of a corporation or wealthy special interest groups, high profile special interest groups, lobbying groups, and the polls of the American people as to what they wanted to happen had almost no impact on the voting record of members of Congress. Yeah, the, the, the, but but it makes sense. If you're in Congress, are you going to listen to these people? They're going like, did you know that it's more expensive to live in Texas than L.A.?

And you're a member of Congress being like, this is a chicken. Yeah. They're balking at me. I cannot take their advice as to how I'm going to run government. No, I mean, like the SAVE Act is a prime example of that. It's something that the American people, you know, overwhelmingly want. And yet they still can't pass it. And they probably won't pass it because their attitude is you think we want these people in control?

Yeah, right. Members of Congress are probably like, nah, it's better off that the people are stupid and impotent. I think it's probably members of the Senate that are more like that. I think Congress people are. more grounded because they're short of terms. That's where, I mean, look, everyone knows Congress is where the clown show happens, right? You get weirdos in Congress on a regular basis. You don't generally get weirdos in the Senate. They look at themselves as, you know, more deliberative. They kind of have their nose in the air. They look at themselves as the upper chamber.

They're the upper chamber of the government. And so you get the weirdos in Congress. You know, look, man, I look at this and I just see the philosophical zombie, which in in layman's terms is NPCs. Yeah, but like I said, this is all about reinforcing a narrative that people already believe. If people don't like this, they sweep past, right? If you're a considerate... That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about is each and every one of these people who lacks the cognitive faculties

to do a Google search to try and suss out what is or is not. See an advertisement for a $30 video to post a $30 to post some statement. And they go, oh, I'll do that. Wow. there's no thought to what they're doing or why they're doing it. And I wonder if these people have internal monologues. It's very debatable. The pressing question.

I mean, to be honest, I did an interview with Flat Earth Dave. And I told him I am not so egotistically attached to my beliefs that I would be offended by anything you say. You can tell me that the earth is a gigantic macaroni noodle. And I'd be like, that's a weird thing to think. I don't think so. but, you know, I'm not mad that you think it. But these are the kind of people that get angry, like they don't think when you're like, actually Trump did not call Nazis very fine people. They get physically agitated and they feel anger and pain. And I think it's just they lack the

capabilities. I wonder if that really is the defining trait of the quote unquote NPC or the philosophical zombie, an individual who cannot deviate. from that track and they get angry if someone tries to make them. Yeah, well, I'm curious where you're seeing all these stories about people basically outsourcing their thinking to an LLM, if that's going to aspirate this issue of, okay, we can't quite put a... I'm for AI now. Let's go. Yeah.

Well, I've maintained the position. Most of these people probably should just take the buyout whenever it's wrong. That's what I'm saying. Like, kind of unironic. The matrix awaits all you can want and more. Yeah, like if we could just silent, granted, it's going to be tough with. democracy, but, you know, once we get rid of that and all that, then we can... We'll vote for it in two seconds.

Then, you know, and they're removed from the equation, democratically speaking, then you can just silo them away and they're like, goon chambers or whatever. And then, like, the 10%... You know, I was thinking, I was like, you know, the Jehovah's Witness were kind of cooking when they're like, maybe there's only like 144,000 people that are, like, and sold. I'm like, you know, I've seen them, every time I see them on the street in New York, I'm like, what are these jaguagons? Well, I go by them.

I'm like, what's your pamphlets say again? 144,000. Yeah. If you remove athletes from Wikipedia's notable people, you are left with around that many people that are considered notable. Oh, you're on there. I'm not. So I guess jury's out if I'm insoled.

And I'm ginger anyway, but I think- Well, that proves you're not. Yeah. Just- I'm fighting uphill battle. Except it'll be easier for you, you know? I mean, look, like, if AI can serve up, you know, something exceptional, then I'd probably take the buyout.

Take the buyout. Yeah. I mean, I got no problem with video games, right? So if they came out with AI-generated video games, with like a Neurlink headband, no surgeries, but if they had a headband, you could put on, and then you could play GTA, but it felt real. I'd probably play, like, I gotta be honest,

I don't play a lot of video games, maybe, an hour every week maybe. If World of Warcraft forever is coming out, we have to talk about this because it really does, it really does matter culturally. And I'm not joking. I would consider playing World of Warcraft, you know, a couple hours with friends

just to hang out and have a good time. But that's not the buyout. playing video game sometimes is totally fine. The buyout is when you plug yourself into the goon chamber 24-7. Like the buyout, like I'm saying like I want to play FIFA, but I want to be like pitch side. I want to be the manager. I want to go in the locker room, like give the players a pep talk and like be the manager.

Dude, I'll like go way out, dude. I'll go crazy when we get that. Or like, yeah, 2K and you can actually like dunk for like white guys. I mean, I think that's how you pick off most because everyone's like, although I think you pick off the white guys. It's like, hey, dude, you're going to be like, like throwing it down at Madison Square Garden. He'll be like, dude, yeah.

I can't sign me up. Yeah. I mean, look, the- It's an easy yes for me. I don't know. I can't speak on behalf of like all white boys. Look, Activision just got the reins of the Halo franchise, so we'll see where that goes because, you know,

super soldiers are always cool in my book. Dude, imagine you get the B one. Yeah, right? Yeah, okay, or I'd rather be a free thinker. It sounds overrated. No, thanks. Yeah. It's a drag.

but look I mean I don't know that I don't know that technology is the answer here though honestly it's causing a lot of the problems I mean I'm not particularly a big fan of universal enfranchisement generally

just because I don't think that the average people are actually that interested beyond you know the economy and the government does have influence over the economy but they don't have like

absolute control over the economy. There's a lot of different factors. I think we should get rid of the Fed Reserve and allow the market to handle it and we probably have better results and then we wouldn't have to have the government being so involved in our lives. I want to jump to this story,

which matters to each and every one of you owe so much, world of Warcraft forever. Now many of you may be saying I don't care about video games. It's not about video games. This is about our inability to grow up and to move on, our demand for nostalgia and what the future will do to us. So let me just start by saying this.

There are numerous channels on Instagram and YouTube. They make AI generated 80s and 90s videos. Some do 2000, some do 70s, some do 60s. And they are targeting people who grew up in these periods or who had their family and they yearn for this time. So the 90s ones. I get sent these all the time. what because I grew up in the 90s.

And there's the kitchen. It looks just like my friend's kitchen. There's wallpaper. Who's still at wallpaper? You can see that they're walking to Blockbuster. You can see the kids in the parking lot of the Blockbuster at night eating candy. And everybody just wishes, oh, man, the 90s. We want to go back.

Yes, us aging millennials. We want to go back to the 90s. This is where it comes to World of Warcraft forever. I'm a big World of Warcraft fan where I was. I played it back in the early days. I was a high-ranked PVP. I played Rogue for the most part, but I had a endgame Rogue and Priest.

Those are the classes that I played. I had a healer. You know, it was fun. And I played until I think Legion was the last expansion I played, which was a long time ago. Was that like 10 years ago now? Yep.

I tried loading all the discs onto my computer and it was too much memory. Well, so here's the thing. I got into it. They, there was a server was launched for World of Warcraft, the vanilla, meaning the first game. And it was massively popular. Everybody loves it.

Blizzard gets it shut down and launches Warcraft Classic, World of Warcraft Classic. So you can go play the original game. And it was fun for a while. And then they started rolling out the expansions again. And I'm not interested in the expansion. So I played Classic for a little bit. And then they were like, we're going to do Burning Crusade. I can't remember what happened.

But I'm like, I'm out. World of Warcraft Forever basically goes back 20 years. to the original game from 20 years ago to bring back the original game. They were much bigger back then. The reason why I think this story matters, given the choice, everybody takes the buyout. If you gave someone an opportunity and said, we're going to plug your brain in to the Matrix and you will be 16 and it will be the late 90s, early 2000s all over again. They would say yes.

Now, not everybody. Some people have kids. and they're like, I might go on the weekends and hang out with friends, but a lot of people will choose to go back 20 years to relive those moments. Here's what's crazy. Times are supposed to change. Now, I don't think it's supposed to change so rapidly the way they are now, but we weren't able to go back in time and relive our nostalgia.

We just told stories about it to the kids. Ah, you know, when I was a kid. But with the world turning digital, with us spending so much of our time in virtual realities, even if it's third person. Soon it will be first person, like actual immersive. People are going to choose to stay locked in their fake realities forever to relive the glory days. Yeah.

Did you see the Newsweek piece? They basically were talking about how Toys R Us is now setting up their stores or whatever for their comeback. And they asked all these market researchers and they were like, yeah, this is entirely adults. And there was one, I think, I can't remember the name of the market research firm, but they're like top shelf. This is who you go to for market research. They said 55% of the toy market is now adults.

What? So you have Toys R Us pretty much entirely for adults. The entire toy market writ large is majority for adults. I'm like, dude, it's not a rest of development. These people have grown up in some sense, but they're just the nostalgia thing. It's gone beyond like, oh, yeah, that song reminds me of that. No, it's like... I wish I was a kid again.

What kind of toys are they selling to adults? Funko pops, Legos. Oh, my God. There's a lot of people that still buy action figures and they save them thinking, you know, oh, in 20 years, these things are going to be... 40 years, they're going to be worth something. It's like, bro, no, they're not.

Like, that's that... People forget that the reason why, like, an original Boba Fet in the card or whatever, like, still in the package, The reason it's so much money is because there's like three of them in existence. You know, in the 90s, late 90s when the new Star Wars movies came out, people were buying up all the Darth malls and stuff. Oh, these are going to be worth so much money. It's like, look, man, there's probably 20,000 of those in mint condition hidden around the U.S.

They're probably worth like $15. Because no one saved the original Star Wars ones and they all disappeared. Because kids bought them and they played with them. Right. And then when the next one came out, everyone's like, don't play with them. Yeah. But man, I think I had probably like 12 shadowless first edition Charzards. Dude, I have so many misprints like...

Pokemon cards? You still have them? Yes, and they're in really good condition. What are they worth? I don't know. Probably stupid amount. You got Charzards? Oh, yeah.

One Charzart could be like $2.50,000. See, I thought that, but like they, like I could not find anyone actually willing to buy it online. And on the internet. It says it's worth something, but... That's the little die-cast, now. I mean, I grew up loving NASCAR, but I would immediately rip the packaging open and race them around. And I'm like looking on eBay now and they're worth like hundreds of dollars.

A PSA, a PSA, uh, a PSA, wow, this is crazy. An ungraded Charzart is worth 9,000. Wow. A PSA 10 is 335,000. Yeah, the, yeah, sports, I mean, like, you know, baseball cards and stuff. I mean, they've always been collectors, but like the market right now is insane. Is there really? There's like, there's an entire, I can't run anything in the app.

There's like a whole app that's just for trading card sales and people do like live stream auctions and stuff. I'm like, what is going on? Maybe because people aren't interested in art anymore, so they're storing their wealth and, you know, Sammy Sosa cards or something. I don't know. You know what I hope. I hope literally everybody who played World of Warcraft back in 06 signs up again, because we desperately need a unified culture. We desperately need. I was talking about this earlier today with some friends like, would we be better off? It's not saying I know. I'm asking you guys a literal question. Would we be better off with no independent media and only major network news if it meant that everybody was in this country

was on the same page with with disagreements here and there but for the most part a monoculture no weirdo extremists demanding the lesbian bar wear masks we would be better off with without weirdo extremists i mean but the point is if you have one or the other you have the option of you know a a small network of channels maybe there's 30 channels everyone kind of agrees no one's really extreme. There's no media broadcasting for wacko lunacy. Or we have the internet, which is just chaos in every direction and good luck who wins. No, I think in a weird way, the main problem now, like for example, part of the reason monoculture stuck was because the country is a lot more homogenous. Or now, if you abolish that, we went back to network television, I actually think

the ethnic divisions in the country would get worse because like BT would be able to gobble. Like right now among young people, there is a monoculture in the sense of they share a lot of the same sense of humor through memes and whatnot. And I think if it went back to network programming, you would probably see like ethnic siloing again. I think that would be pretty likely. You would have like BT channels and all that and you would have like Telemundo and all. Like it would, I think it would actually revert back to how it was. But now the country's far less homogenous. There's a lot more Hispanic people, a lot more Asian people, et cetera.

I think for one it would make it even more impossible for immigrants to assimilate. I was at the NAB National Association for Broadcasters Conference like 10 years ago in Amsterdam. And I was talking to these guys who were comedian, I said, fame is over. I said, fame as we know it is over. And they disagreed and they were like, there's always going to be, you know, like insert famous football star. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. There will be some fame. I'm saying like the general mechanisms of being famous are over because of this because of social media and internet.

Everyone's going to be a little bit famous in various areas because media has decentralized. When there was when there were three TV channels, 20 million people are watching one episode of the same show. Everybody recognizes you everywhere you go. But now it's a big deal when, you know, Fox News is getting 100,000 viewers in the key demo. That's it. That 100,000. Well, we can't mint stars at large. Even athletics like you brought up, that's summer we just can't mint stars anymore.

I mean, this has been the big problem for the major sports leagues and, you know, the soccer world broadly. Like, for example, Lionel Messi, Christiana Renaudi, these are household names. Everyone, you know, superstars, they can't, you know, walk down a street without getting mobbed. Now the greatest player in the world is like, you know, Killian Mbapapé. Nothing comes to mind. He doesn't really have that gravitas or aura like those guys did. Same problem. The NBA can't mint.

a new LeBron. The NFL can't mint a new Tom Brady. Like there's stars that came about because they were on monoculture era. They were going on, you know, the Tonight Show. They were going on, you know, the Good Morning America or whatever. And it was a huge deal where now these new stars are coming through and they just don't have like the aura or gravitas. And yeah, part of that's monoculture was able to amplify their fame. But secondarily, people have too much access to these guys now where it's like now you can go to their Instagram and see what they're up to in their Twitter and they feel a lot more approachable. They feel a lot more like real people when what made Tom Brady, Tom Brady is that he had

this just kind of like, I wonder what's going on. Like he's just in his own world. Now that Tom Brady is in this era, people think he's like cringe now because he's like everywhere. And it's like part of what made you so, you know, had that allure to you is that you were kind of felt unapproachable. Like you really were this just unbelievable superstar. And some people could make an argument that's a good thing. But what I'm just trying to get at is like these sports leagues can't come up with the new LeBron.

Like, okay, who's the best friend? What, Wembe Nama? He's like, he just doesn't have the aura like LeBron does. By the time LeBron was 25, he was already, you know, a household name. And every kid had a poster on his wall of LeBron. Does this guy have the same kind of talent that LeBron had, though? Yeah, Wembeñama is like a just generational. I think he would be the most even one-to-one swap because, you know, Messi was special.

People consider him the consensus goat. we're in Boppe. It's like, well, that's always going to be tough to chase. But, yeah, when Binyama's, I mean, obviously, LeBron had a 20-something year career, but when Binyama has that skill set of like, this should be a guy, and he's like a freak of nature. He's like seven foot three, but you're going to point guard and he can shoot threes. So it's like, this is like an exceptional talent that if he existed 20 years ago,

you know, would have been everywhere. You know, it'd be on every billboard in America and whatnot. And so some people have said, well. Yeah, I mean, he'd be, and some people are like, oh, well, it's because he's French. They have trouble marketing him. And I'm like, dude, Yamin was a superstar

and he couldn't speak English. So it's like, that doesn't have anything to do with that. Micro fame. It's actually interesting because it's kind of turning back into the way things were before TV. You know, if you were well known

in your town, that's just it. You know, it's like the locals all knew the legend of Tate, you know what I mean? Then if you went to the big city, people would like, who? Yeah, it's like a local Dallas, Texas music scene. Like, you're famous.

Yep. You play a lot of shows there, but like, outside the state. Well, but it sucks because we've, and Phil, you could probably speak to this with authority, is even like regional scenes as they existed don't exist anymore because it's like a rock band from Boston and a rock band from Portland, Oregon or something, are going to have probably the same sound, same with comedians. You know, I can't remember, we had a comedian here recently and he was, we were talking

about this how like a Boston comic, nothing would land in Dallas and vice versa, we're now, Shane Gales can sell out a stadium basically anywhere in the country. Yeah, I mean, like, when I was coming up in in the music scene like especially like in new england like there was this whole thing that was going on that was really north the northeast right like it was it was called the new wave of american heavy metal and it was it was basically it was lamma god was from virginia god forbid was from new jersey and then everybody else was from massachusetts right like shadows fall all the remains unearth kill switch engage the ecaecious strain all these new bands and we shared us we we weren't the same but we shared a similar sound and the only other place kind of in the country that had anything

like that that was going on was southern california and it was similar sound just they wore makeup right like that was that was obviously because it's l.A right so there's there's there's bleeding through there was a bench sevenfold there was you know a handful of bands i think as i lay dying probably didn't wear makeup but they were they were one of the bands that was coming up and and and you wouldn't i don't know that you'd see that now because you know when we were coming up late 90s early like the internet hadn't gotten into everyone's pocket yet. Like it existed and you could put stuff on the internet and listen to it, but there wasn't YouTube, there wasn't Spotify. There wasn't like the monoculture like we talk about.

It was like laying the foundation for that. So the sound that we had did start to filter through the rest of the country. And it kind of, you know, for lack of a better term, it kind of took the country, at least the metal scene by storm. Because everything was new metal before we got on the, got up there. And then there was the underground. And you see it with like country and rap, two genres that. historically, like very geographically stratified, right? I mean, like, infamously, East Coast, West Coast,

but, like, there was a very distinctive sound, and then you had, like, the Southern scene or whatever. Country was the same thing. Like, artists from Texas and artists from Alabama, it might have been two different genres. I mean, it was so vastly different. And then you think of, like, these regional scenes that existed, like, I mean, when I was a kid,

I was a big fan of, like, Midwestern emo. And that was, like, you look up all these bands. They were all from Illinois and Indiana and Michigan and whatnot. So it's like Missouri. Missouri, yeah, we've just completely. lost this ability for like certain scenes to be contained. Like Seattle, Grunge just came almost purely out of Seattle and like obviously it took the country by storm. But if you like that kind of music in what, 1991, you'd have to go up to Seattle to hear it. I'm going to kind of just deviate and

go back a little bit to the Warcraft thing. I want to make a few points. We have to go back. I remember playing Vanilla Warcraft and it was difficult. It wasn't like super difficult. It was fun. But I remember player versus player. We call it PVP for those that don't know that means. I had the field marshal gear in PVP. I loved Alterick Valley. I played like crazy. And I got the PVP rank. Field Marshal, bought all the gear. I was like, let's go. It was kind of hard to get. It was very difficult. And if you got it, you got good gear. That was really great in the PVP setting. Rades. If you wanted to go on like a massive raid with 20 or 40 players, you needed friends. You needed a guild. That's how it was done. We'd call friends. We had, I think we used team speak. I don't know.

There's Ventrillo, I think was one of them. I can't remember. Vent. And I'd log on and I'd look to see who of my friends were online because if you wanted to do a dungeon, you needed people. It was actually kind of difficult. You had to make friends. You'd go into, I played alliance. I know a lot of people, a lot of my friends like to play a horde. I'd go to Stormwind and you put looking for group, you know, dead minds when you were a new player, you wanted to do the little dungeon. And then you'd make a group of friends and you'd all talk and be like, all right, let's go do this. I remember playing Legion. You want to do a raid? You click the button. And then it would be like, you're in the queue. Next thing I knew, I was instantly transported into a dungeon fighting a

dragon. I had no idea what was going on. Knew none of the people. They're all just spamming their attacks. And nothing was happening. I was confused. It was boring. In the early days, you want to do a raid. You had to know everybody. You're on vent. You hear the guild leader being like, okay, guys, if you're DPS, we need you to go over here. When the boss stomps his foot, You have to back up. Healers won't be able to heal you. And if too many of you die, we're going to wipe, that was fun. Being part of this big group on a mission. And then they were like, nah, just click a button. That's why I stopped playing at Legion. Because everything was just so damn boring. Everything has gotten too stupid. These companies, so I bring this up because the article says it was built for retail players. I'm sorry, it was not built for retail players. What does that mean? Well, back in the day, the retail player wanted a challenge. Back in the day, things were hard to do. Today, they're like, no, the retail players are the people who can't think properly, who need to click a button one time to do a thing.

They have tried so hard to make everything for the lowest common denominator. They've ripped the soul out of games, and they're just stupid. I give another example. I was a huge fan of Marvel versus Capcom, too, the greatest fighting game ever made, for those that are familiar. The combos required you to do a series of different punches. you press down up, super jump, land on them, hit a bunch of buttons, then jump again, and you can air combo.

It was an amazing game. And then I remember when I bought Marvel versus Capcom Infinite, I was like, oh, let's go. Like the new three, it's 3D now, one button. But you just press one button over and over again and it even jumped automatically for you. And I said, I threw it away. I don't want to play this. It's boring. We need to bring back difficult things.

Yeah. People need to experience hardships and challenges. and I think they want it. I'm hoping when they bring back World of Warcraft forever. So I saw someone chat saying it's basically a remake. I hope when they bring this back, it is hard. And if you want to play the game, you need friends. And you have to look for friends.

And that's part of the challenge. And I think that we should be doing this. And I'm going to do it because I got a video game. I was talking to my brother about it earlier. He's like, shouldn't we do like insert feature to make it easier? I was like, no, make it harder. Make the game confusing and difficult with no instruction manual. If you want to play and figure it out, you can look it up on

You can watch a YouTube tutorial. That's the other thing too. Those online videos explaining games were community building. And everything's become so dumbed down that people open the game and they're either bored because they're no challenge or they're too stupid to play it anyway. The same thing happened to Roomscape actually. Very similar to this. In 2007 they took away the PVP version that was called the Wilderness and then everyone was like really pissed because like you can't, you know, hurt, you know, can't kill another player to get their loot or whatever. anymore. And then they replaced it with like castle wars or something ridiculous where you just

drop in and then like you're just a with a bunch of random people you don't know fighting a thing for for no actual gain. So they recreated RuneScape as 2007scape and now everyone plays that still, which is kind of like the equivalent of this. I feel like I just like totally missed out like the prime era of gaming because like 2007 I would have been six. It was like grinding Webkins, pretty much. That was my World of Warcraft. It was like Webkins. I figured you for a Maple Story kind of guy. No, dude, I was just tearing it up on Webkins, and it was awesome. My mom probably cost her so much money at Hallmark to buy all those stuffed dogs or whatever.

But I got to have to have been like the Michael Vic of Webkins because they all are dead by now. Here you go, guys. This one's for you. Goober cheap. I haven't listened to it yet, so. 1990s, please. The buyout. Take it. It's waiting for you.

It says Goober on his shirt. Everybody's roller skating. Wow, that's pretty compelling. I told it to make a commercial for the buyout. And it said Goon Chamber, but it wouldn't let me do it. It kept rejecting it under a, like, community guidelines. It was like, no. So I said, all right, Goober Chamber.

And then it was like, okay. He says Goober on his shirt. There you go. The buyout. Take it. It's waiting for you. It's right there. I was listening to his name is Louis Brindley.

He founded the Yogs cast, which was like this huge, like gaming YouTube channel when I was growing up. And he was talking about like how, because like when they started out, they had like 15 guys that were on the channel. He was talking about how they started out and he said it was from World of Warcraft.

They had a guild like 100 guys in it. And I was like, that's crazy. Imagine having to organize 100 guys. And then he was going on to explain no all 100 players were playing at the same time and they were all in the same voice channel. And I'm like, that sounds so electric to have like,

100 dudes that like half of them are just friends of friends or whatever and everyone's on voice chat just rolling in like that sounds like the most fun experience possible because it's like every game now it's like maxed out of like four players in the lobby I mean yeah four players in a lobby that was kind of lame that's kind of like like a war zone fortnight and stuff yeah I mean when I was playing a lot of Xbox live playing a lot of halo two and halo three like that was like the peak for me and it's you know it was four on four you could do big big team battle that Slayer was the best. You're just playing with four people.

You get the same dudes. Everybody knows kind of how they play, and everyone knows kind of what their role was. I mean, you could play all night long, get home from, like, I was probably working at the mall or whatever, but get home and jump on Xbox Live and play for, you know, until five in the morning. And it was, like, it was great, you know. This is in the onsla.

Well, I was, well, you, I was just good to say, one of the things is ironic about all of this is the guy started, up my venture fund with, his name's Rich Melman. He started Electronic Arts in 1982, as in Madden. He literally started the company. And in 82, when he started the company, he had a theory, which was people will want interactivity more than passively watching television and film. And he was right for a long time until basically what you're saying, he's not right anymore. Because now we've gone back from things being hard and interactive and interesting and social to a spot where you hit the button, unplug and just go watch.

Yeah, I mean, a part of me thinks that it's the wrong people got in charge of video games. Like they, because there was a time where video games were kind of exclusive, right? They, like, when you would, the people that were playing video games wanted a challenge. The people that were playing video games wanted them to be hard. They didn't want to be able to sit down and just play through a, you know, a 15-hour campaign in a day. They wanted the actual challenge. and as video games became more popular and certain people that shouldn't have been in charge of video game studios got in charge of video game studios, they started saying, well, these stories and these video games are, or these video games are actually more about stories and we want to tell the stories that we want to tell. And it's not supposed to be hard because people want to find out how this story concludes. They want to play the game. So we're going to make it so that way, every, everybody can play because if everyone can play and everyone can do well, then we'll actually open the market to more people.

And more people will feel like they can, they can, you know, enjoy our product. But the problem is the people that really love the product, didn't want that. So they stopped playing the games. And the people that came in and loved the, like, loved playing video games because they were easy and they got the, you know, gratification of finishing it. Like, that changed what gaming was. And now I think you're seeing the people that started the video games, when video games were more exclusive, have basically moved away from video games significantly.

And it shows in the sales that the core audience was the majority, that the people that were, you know, just wanted to play through the video game, they weren't logging on all the time with their friends. They'd play through the video game. They wouldn't play anymore. They wouldn't be going into the store to buy the, you know, the new skins or whatever. So they were, you know, the, the, what's it called? The studios kept putting out all these different skins and stuff to try and collect money from people because they weren't getting the same kind of returns.

And you're seeing it now. Like I said, like I mentioned Halo earlier. Halo just got turned over to Activision. That was the game in the odds, right? Halo 1, Halo 2 and Halo 3. That was the, it was a cultural one, but they had a video, they had a commercial in the Super Bowl. The rollout for Halo 3 was the biggest ever marketing for a video game. It was huge.

And the numbers on release were absolutely massive. And the game had staying power. Then the studio changed, went from the original creators to another studio, and everything they put out after that just got worse and worse and worse. Well, a huge reason for this was consolidation. The number of game studios, when you were playing those games, when I was playing those games, they were all independent. They were all around the world.

and they were five guys in a bedroom and they were really good. The end of the day, electronic arts and two or three others, I think there's only three or four major game companies left. And almost all of those studios that you remember those names of, they're inside of one of three or four silos. So it's the same consolidation you see in other industries. In my opinion, is actually what ruined unique and differentiated gaming. There's only so many people you can go to to get a game now.

Yeah, the video game I'm talking about in question, Hilo. Once they were bought, they were created by a company called Bungy. Once they were bought by Microsoft, the games, they transferred it over to a company called, they basically created a company called 343 Studios and everything went down from there. Yeah, Marathon. Yep. Total garbage. Creepy, uncanny Valley game.

Destiny. It was great. Well, their story was dumb as dumb could get because they screwed it up. It started out good, though. Well, no, no, no. I mean, the game has always been very good. It's always been great mechanics, great gameplay, PVP worked. Even when Destiny 2 came out and they kind of changed it because shotguns were so good in Destiny 1 that they made it more like, what is it, Scott Rifle-based?

It was still okay. You know, it's like if you had the skills to pay the bills, you could play the game. And I was fine with it and had a lot of fun. And then they were like, we're going to end Destiny, which is still one of the most popular games. They started promoting Marathon. The characters look like weird androgynous mannequins. It's very uncanny valley. The game bombs.

Now there's rumors that are going to do a Destiny 3. Yeah, they're... Although the story is still whack as whack can be. They could fix it. Yeah, Bunji just released something from their heads of the studio, I think, a couple days ago saying, look, we know we blew it with Destiny. We're not going to make Destiny go away, and they're actually turning back on a lot of the stuff they turn out.

Well, I mean, look, money's money, right? That's right. And community was loud about it, too. What I can't for the life of me understand is how they've been so. miserable at story the whole time. It's been like 12 years, right? Is that how, like, since, since, since that's launched Destiny 1? And the story has just never been fixed.

It's just the wackiest of nonsense. Yeah, I mean. But the game's fun. The witness was supposed to be like the big bad guy at the end. And it was a little underwhelming. And then after, once you actually fought the witness at the end of like the, the storyline, like they still kind of tried to limp it on and they needed Destiny 3 is what they need. Well, what they need, what they needed with Destiny 2, and what people want to see is progress.

And they kept giving us calamity. So for those that don't know, Destiny starts with the calamity of a futuristic human race. And it's like the last city. And you want to feel like something new is happening. But every time I played, it was just like, oh, the humans are losing again. Yep, that's it. Up, Cade 6 is dead. That was, that was, he was like the best character too and they killed him off.

Like, I didn't understand that at all. Was it Nathan Philean who's out? Is that why? I'm not sure why, but the character, they lost some voice actor or something. But yeah, they brought him back, didn't they? Yep. They brought him back at the end. And again, I think it was one of those things where, like, you know, the player base started

to dive and they were like, we got to do something about this, so let's bring Kade back. Jeez, just give us progress. All you had to do is establish that they, like, built a new city and, like, the humans are coming back and tell us something is happening in the game. Do something fun. Yeah, but you know, they didn't. Hopefully, though, you know, the reason why I'm excited for World of Warcraft forever, as much as the whole point of us talking about this was that people desperately want to go back in time and relive their youth. And this is what I was thinking about was like you couldn't before.

But now the buyout is coming. And this is a good example of it. But I am hoping because I think what was it, what was their peak like 20 million players, some stupid number? I don't know. It's huge, though. Get as many as people as possible into the same place so they can stop viewing each other as others. And some people's worldviews are too entrenched. You're not going to get him to come back together. But you can start here and mend those who can be mended.

And that would be a good thing. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. But I don't see, I don't know. I mean, hopefully that they can do something with, like I said, I was never a World of Warcraft player. But, you know, if the studios start paying attention to the actual, like the hard players and what they want and stop trying to be something for everybody and focus on what

they're good at, I think that they could. The question is, do they realize that that's what they need to do? You know, if they, if they don't actually put the effort into making something that's challenging, making something that matters to the hardcore players, the people that'll play, you know, all night long with their friends and come back the next day and the next day, if they're not focusing on that, then they're not making something that people are going to really love. They'll make something that people like and it'll play, but they'll leave it behind. people that played destiny played destiny

you know every week they were grinding playing the same missions they were doing the same stuff people that played Halo they played you know they played PVP

all the time every night for for months on end and stuff but if you only have casuals people that play a little bit you're not going to have that that core that base that you need this is the battle of all

like our cultural development over the past 20 years kind of exemplifies it the casual versus the you know the hobbyist I guess tourists. And they keep trying to make the game for the casual because they're like most people only play a little bit here and there. So we need to make sure the person who's playing an hour or two per week can still feel powerful, get good items and be involved in the game.

So they end up making it horribly boring because then there's nothing to achieve. There's no dopamine hit. I think, you know, and guys need that dopamine hit. Look, women can have their love is blind, married at first sight, first sight. 90-day fiancé, and they have like, what, 20 versions of each of those shows? Yeah. Great. Give us video games of varying difficulties that we can enjoy with other people.

You let the chuds be the chuds. They like it. They'll play. Let the chads be the chads and the Stacey's be the Stacey's. Yeah, but I'm talking about like... Everybody's a Chad and World of Warcraft if you work hard enough. You can be a fat, miserable misanthrope in real life. but if you grind in World of Warcraft,

you can be a level 60 field marshal or what was it grand? What was the highest rank? I didn't remember the highest rank. Like I said, I never really played a lot of while, but let the gamers be the focus of your game, the people that are going to be, you know, coming back night after night,

playing all the time. You know, they're the people that are going to end up paying your bills, you know? And if you make games, that you like, but also that focuses on what they want, then you'll end up with happy customers. You know, a really good example of what we're talking about is the Wolverine game. Yeah. Where, have you heard about this, the Wolverine game?

It's been trending massively because there's no actual game. I mean, sure, you can click buttons and stuff, but there's a blue line from Wolverine directly to your target so you know what to do. And there's a couple missions that apparently are so egregiously not games. People hold their controls up on live streams as the game effectively plays itself. Yep. So people are just like, just not real anymore, you know? It sounds like they took the buy out already.

Exactly. Yeah. There was a, I think one of the problems was there was a survey that, of people that played video games, and it showed that women played a lot of video games too. But the video games that women played were like candy crush on their phone. Very different, very different games.

Totally different kind of thing. So you had all these people that were saying, look, ton of girl gamers. Look, 50% of players are, or blah, blah, blah. And you end up changing what makes the PC game and stuff. I love this story from IGN. This cozy dressmaking game is taking over Steam's top seller list, my friends. You can try and shoehorn in female characters in the games, make the female hero's journey, and say, women are just as tough as men. And then be surprised when your World War I Simulator Battlefield game with a purple-haired amputee doesn't sell

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This is all women ever wanted. It's one of their top sellers, overwhelmingly positive. The game looks incredibly well made. I think it's fairly impressive. And if you just want to make dresses, dude, go for it. Don't let anybody tell you you can't. I don't care if you're a dude or a lady. If this is the game for you, it's the game for you.

Hey, if you want to be the purple-haired amputee lady in World War I, that's fine too. I'm just not going to play it. I'm not going to play this game either, but it looks really well made, and I hope the women love it. Yeah, I mean, look, if it's popular, that's fine, but they make games that are focused on your audience. If there are women that want to play this game or if there are people that want to play this game, that's great. but you don't want to add, like, you don't want to make dressmaker into, like, armor maker and just to try to attract, like, dudes.

Phil, you figured it out. I just, you figured it out. We're going to make an MMO action RPG, action adventure RPG. You're the blacksmith? No. You can be the dress, the armor designer, to make cool looking outfits from scratch.

So when the dude is playing and he's like, yeah I got a raid tonight we're getting 20 of the boys together we're going to fight a dragon the wives are like we're going to make your armor for you there you go and the girls are all sitting around and they're like clicking and they're like oh let's put an armor plate here and here oh this one gives them plus to agility yeah there you go and then you're like honey can you can you build my armor for my raid tonight and she'll be like for sure and then she calls the girls and they're sitting there giggling and they put you know little bells and whistles and haberdashery and have like a berry gatherer one too go and get food and bring it to the soldiers and

Shit. There you go. See, we just solved all the video games. The female characters just bring berries. It's the men before they fight the dragon. Berries and me. I can't wait till I'm back in Philly and my friends are all saying. Look, I'm so excited. You were finally on the Timcast. What did you guys talk about? I'm like, I want to tell you, they came up with the best video game idea ever.

In like two months, this guy's going to announce the new video game they're launching. You never know. Getting men and women to play together. Bring people together. Here's what you got to do. you've got to make a video game where women marry strangers. I'm not kidding. You know about Love is Blind?

Oh, yes. Married at First Sight. Oh, yeah. 90-day fiancé. I might have watched some of them. I won't say that too loud. And there's like 50 versions of them. There's like Love is Blind, Australia.

Yeah, there's like a wife swap for every country in the world. Life swap's awesome. The best wife swap is, uh... Which country is the best? Oh, the best one is South Africa because they'll swap like a traditional African family with like a white family from Cape Town. It's just like the craziest. Like it's like no hijinks there.

Are you serious in that I thought? Yeah, yeah. No, they do. It's like a bit. They do it. Like they're like, okay, we're the most two like disparate ethnic groups in the country. Let's like trade their wives. And of course it's like a disaster every time. The British one's great because they're so class stratified. So they'll swap like lower class with upper class. And then like there was one or I think they like had an affair like while they were on it and like broke up the marriage. they don't do France wife swap

because they do that anyway all the time so that it would be just Well but it's not all wivesop Like you know love is blind It's like how does that work It's like two random people like you know Get married or something is how it is Well that's married at first

Oh no love is blind Is married at first sight There's all sorts of Wait wait love is blind is blind people isn't it Yeah correct for sure Is it? No it's not It's like they're they're I mean

They can't see each other before So they have to hear the voices and be like, oh, yeah. Oh, I thought it was like they got blind people to... No, not that one. Not that one. I was just going to say that. I haven't seen that one.

Oh, it's so good. And they're down for love or something? Well, yeah, love on the spectrum. Down for love? Yeah, that's a real show. Yeah. This is the game women want, and I'm not joking. They keep trying to make video games for women and they're like, women make up half of gamers.

No, they're playing Candy Crush. You make the dressmaker game, women buy it. Make a video game where you date strangers. women will play it or like a love on the spectrum MMRP that'd be awesome it's like a Sims it's like a Sims right

where it'll tell you like here's Janet and she's like looking for love and you'll get a selection of like 10 guys and you'll be like oh you gotta read about each guy and it'll be like Rick is a surfer guy he's kind of aloof

and he's a theater manager like I don't know about that and then you got like Alan is like hey he's a software developer he makes it he's got a good salary it's just Tinder and then but then you pick and then you make

them go on dates and then you can affect the dates. So like they'll talk. And then if things are going, maybe you see like their mood decline, you can be like, quick, get the waiter, get the waiter, and you can like have the waiter come in. That's what the Sims was because the Sims like crushed with women. Like the two games women like dominate is the Sims and Animal Crossing. But like the, you know, animal crossings just because they're cute animals. But the Sims, it's like, yeah, you're like managing and facilitating relationships. But like if you watch like, and I'll use some jargon here, medical terms, if you watch a FOID play, uh, the Sims, They like turn into like domestic terrorists.

Like they all, I was watching, like, I was watching this like Instagram real of a girl. And she's like a streamer and she was playing The Sims. And she was like putting a bunch of them in a pool and then deleting the ladder. And they were all like drowning. And she was like monocally laughing. I'm like, is this what they're up to? Like they're either watching murder documentaries or they're committing like microgenicides on the Sims. I mean, that's another game.

How come there's no true crime video game? That's what I was just thinking. The game is it's not a murder mystery in the, And it's not like you're a detective looking around looking clues. You're sitting on a couch with another woman. And then you just talk about what you think happened. You gossip about it. With AI, you could have like an AI friend that you talk about.

My co-hosts, I have a podcast called Inside Game. My co-host is this NBA super agent named Derek Brooks. His goal in life is to one time be the guy on Dateline who's like, yeah, I saw that. You know, he wants to be random black guy who gets asked in the question. He's like, literally, I want a one-time. day be that guy on Dateline. We did a whole episode on how we need to have him be that guy. And so if a crime happens, you call up so Derek can be the guy to say, I saw that that happened. I think we could put that in a box. Here's a question. How come, how come no one's made these games?

Like, okay, so in all seriousness, you've got married at first sight video game, figure out how to gamify that, have it largely be story with various choices because women love watching this stuff. You've also got Dateline. How do you make a true crime? I think we could, I think that's got legs. I'm, I'm dead serious. I think that's got legs. I think that's the next game I'm going to make.

I'm making this dungeon, explore, action, adventure, fantasy game with vampires. What am I doing? There's a whole market of ladies who need video games. And the studios keep being like, hey, ladies, you want to go to World War I? And they're like, no, I want to marry a stranger. Could literally have. Or build a dress. Yeah, or build a dress.

90 days. For my marriage with a stranger. 90-day fiancee, the game. There's like a tension bar. That'd be beautiful. I'd make a game where you're out. Oh, that's a good one. You get married and you got to make it 90 days.

Oh, that'd be tough with women. That would fall apart every time. And you can choose to, like, I guess the question is, do you play as the woman or the man, or do you add influences? Like, you can increase the temperature in the room or decrease it to see, like, how they behave and, like, you know.

Like, it's like Oregon Trail, but instead of you like postpartum and then you go like crazy. The Lindsay Glancy video. She just wiped the whole lobby. Squad wipe. That'll be like part two and it'll be the true crime version. Yeah.

They were married for 90 days and then she massacred everybody. We have Tom Clancy, they have Lindsay Clancy. You've got to get her found not guilty by reason of insanity. The true crime game is actually a really, really good idea. Women, they just cannot get enough

the true crime. My girlfriend's always watching Netflix. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like there are video games where you're trying to solve murder mysteries, but I guess they got to target them towards women and make the narrative very much like, hear the key details about what happened, and then you explore that story somehow. And then I suppose the way the game would work is it has to be that the official narrative is wrong, and you have to exonerate the female murderer or something. Like she's on, oh, that's the game. she's on trial for murder, no combat, none. There's just like protesters outside, and you can talk to people, you can go visit witnesses.

Actually, this sounds like a fun game. Yeah. And then it's like, you're trying to prove that this woman who murdered her kids was mentally unwell when she did. That's it. Like, you know she killed the kids, but like, you're going to get her out of jail because she deserves it. That game is going to be a blockbuster. They deserve. I mean, we're joking, but I'm going to make this game.

I know you're not. I know you're not joking. I've invested in a couple of game studios, so let's go. I got to ask you this, well, before we jump to the superchats, though. So, do you code yourself or do you? I used to be a very good coder, but that's a young kid's game. How long would it take you to write 45,000 lines of game code, animate 13, let's say, 15 characters, and then design a level generator for a procedural generator. How long do you think that would take?

I mean, it's... With AI... No, no, no, no, no, no. From scratch? Yeah. Oh, I mean, that would take like two years. I did it in three days. Three days?

Yep. You coded 45,000 lines in three days? Indeed. Yep. I'm impressed. I just went on Astra. And I said, here's the game that I want. And so it took...

So far, I think we're probably at a combined like 35 hours of labor, human labor. The machine's doing God knows what at this point. Oh, that's what I mean. I thought you said you personally wrote four. 45,000. Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm saying I did it with AI. Yes. No question. And so I was like, I'm assuming it's probably six months of work and then we looked it up and it's like, the estimates are that it would take between like at this point two to four years and probably cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in art, design, animation, development. And we did it all

in like a week. Yep. Right now, I have an addiction to adding features because it's so easy. So I have to keep stopping and kind of pulling back to finish the game. The game is technically, technically done, but I had my brother come in and I'm like, you need to just polish it and figure out what I didn't do. And so he's basically cleaning it up a little bit. I think we're going to have this game done. It's a procedurally generated dungeon, rogue-like action RPG. You basically are just going down a building to the first floor. And then if you solve the quests, you get an infinite dungeon mode that basically just and then you can level up and just keep playing forever. Whole thing's done. I mean, the craziest thing is the art. The way the dungeon generator works is you've got, I think the first floor you go on might be, I thought it was six. It might be like eight rooms that connect through tunnels and then it particularly generates.

And then every level, the amount of tiles increased by 10%. Each individual room has identifiable art to, like this room is the conservatory and it's kind of like windows. And then it just places them randomly. the background art took 10 seconds. Literally I typed in like each room needs background art and went okay and then it was like thinking and I went here you go. I had it draw 1,000 different tabletop card game cards and that probably took 20 minutes. This is insane where we are currently at with game dev stuff. So I'm going to make this true crime game and I think it'll take a week.

I'll bet you could do it. Yeah. It's because coding is English now. Yeah, it's amazing. man. And then... Great idea. So once we're about to wrap up this game, I'm having my brother basically finish it out.

There's a few things we want to do because we want to make it as best as possible. So we're probably going to give it another week just to make sure it's... I mean, it's completely playable now. I rebuilt the... I ended up for no reason. I rebuilt the dungeon generator because I wanted to add art to it. And this is the problem I keep adding features. And then the combat system I totally redid just because I was...

was like, I didn't like, it was using decimals for, in damage. And I was like, no, I'd rather just everything be solid numbers. I was like, let's rebuild it from scratch and recalculate how we deal damage. And, uh, I think the, what we want to do with is we're going to release it and then we can just doing updates is crazy. If we want to roll out a new character type to play, so like in the game, there's rogue, sorcerer, and then there's some unlockables. We can be like, hey, this month we're rolling out a new playable character, an elvish archer, like download. And it, it, In order to create that character, the talent trees and everything, takes one sentence. I say to Astra, make it, it's done.

And then we just drop it in. There we go. We're going to go to your Rumble Rance and Super Chat, so smash that like button. Share the show with everyone, you know. The uncensored portion of the show is coming up at 10 o'clock. You don't want to miss it. Tech Rue says, Biden is one of the Democrats responsible for Ukraine's war, closing refineries, cancellation of pipelines, draining the strategic oil reserves, supporting Iran's

nuclear program and high fuel prices. Indeed, we are dealing with a lot of the ramifications from what happened in the Biden administration. It is absolutely true. That being said, I think people are generally just upset that Republicans aren't, I don't know, getting the Save Act passed. There's a lot of things, right? Acosta says one of my best friends was just diagnosed with brain cancer. If possible, donations to support Patrick's fight against brain cancer on GoFundMe would mean so much he's in for the fight of his life. Sorry to hear it. Best of luck. McBeefrod. Space King, Episode 5, hit 10 million views.

Space King, the board game Kickstarter, has hit $7.5 million. Let's get it to eight. Phil, can I get a praise be to Space King? Praise B to Space King? I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is.

I don't know. Same old man says, Tim, going into the Matrix is not going back in time. Sending my mind soul back in time. Yes, going in the Matrix, hell no. In fact, the Matrix was back in time. That was the point of the story. They literally say that for some, reason the air that worked the best was the late 90s.

Despite it was in the far future, they sent people's minds back. Fungriff says the economy isn't good enough anymore. Many gamers don't have the time or energy to game all weekend long anymore. How many work six, seven days a week to make ends meet and want to chill for an hour a week? You know, that's kind of the point I was making about the state of the economy. Guys, go to a casino. Take a look at all of the young people that somehow have money to gamble and you're wondering why that is. Take a look at all the people who are sitting at the craps table with like 10 grand in front of them.

And you're wondering how they do it. Go to MGM National Harbor on a weekend and ask yourself how it is that these people are playing a hand of, let's just say, three card poker at $250. Let me do the math. It's going to be a minimum of 50, 50 and 50. So to play the hand with the bonuses is $200. Four card poker is going to be like $150. Who are these people sitting down? at a table game who have thousands of dollars to burn.

The economy is in a very, very, very, very weird place. Certainly there are people who, you know, I'll put it this way. I saw a taco shop in California. It's at now hiring $23 an hour to start. You know, it's getting crazy out there. Let's grab some more. We got a bunch of these chats over here, super chats. Let's grab this one.

Let's see. Rachel Wilson says, Tim is articulating my reason for thinking universal suffrage democracy might be the worst form of government. Do you think there is such a thing as the will of the people? If there ever was, I don't think there is any longer a common will among Americans' thoughts. I agree. I think the will of the people when we had a couple million people and they were all morally homogenous, you know, American colonists, they largely agreed on most things, even though they thought they disagreed on most things. They didn't even realize you could disagree on the Christian moral framework. They were like, well, that's just normal. Everyone agrees on that. So they built a government with the basis of an underlying moral framework. Now that we have a country with disparate moral frameworks and more than two, people largely don't agree on what these laws even mean anymore.

There it is. That's true. All right. Cody Titus says, today we lost our dog, Kimber after almost 17 years. She was my graduation present. my five-year-old daughter is having a tough time as we all are. Tim, can you please do your thing? Love you, Kimber.

And you fill, she's named like the gun. Oh, yeah, like the Kimber. Well, what I always say is, you know, when you have a dog, when you have a good pet, your dog or cat, any pet, really, any animal that you really care about, these animals bring you so much joy for so little in return. you have to ask yourself, when does the bill come do? Because we don't get things for free, right? So what happens is all of these years, these 17 years, you get to spend with that friend where you are made to feel good. They love you unconditionally. There always was a condition. When that friend passes all of that love that they gave you over 17 years, it gets released all at once, and you feel it. And so I always describe it as it's a good pain because

that sadness that you feel is the expression of all of that love that you were given over that long period of time. So the bill comes due, as it were, but it's good. And you know, you know, you know what you know. You would pay that bill any day. When you first get that pet, you know the day will come and you gladly accept the terms because it was worth it. So rest in peace, Kimber. I'm sorry for your loss. The only time a man is allowed to cry is when his dog dies. 17 years is a long time for a dog. That's a good long life for a dog.

Immortal legend says, did you see Andrew Schultz taking Vivek to task about his wanting to bring in more H-1Bs to Ohio and alluding to Americans being dumb? Wow. That was from last January. That clip was circulating. Oh, really? from 26 January or 25.

Wow. But it's circulating recently because it's still very salient. Yeah. It also is pretty crazed to me. The current state of politics in this country is, I am not convinced, I hate to say it,

but maybe we'll talk about this is the uncensored portion. I'm not convinced there's a coming back of these worldviews, especially based on the conversations I've had in Los Angeles, the way the media is going right now, it is basically like, different networks are different nations at war with each other. It's absolutely insane.

I think YouTube absolutely fits the bill. YouTube very clearly is motivated not by money, but by ideology. I think that's fairly obvious to most people. Maybe this is what happens when you are the biggest game in town and you don't need to think about money. You end up just saying like, well, we don't care if our actions lose us money because we have too much already. So they're just spending money on ideology. We'll talk about that and more in the uncensored portion of the show. Smash the like button.

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