Timcast IRL - WNBA Emergency Meeting FAILS To Define "Woman" w/ Max Garely

Episode Date: August 14, 2026

On this episode Tim & the crew are joined by Max Garley to discuss The WNBA failing to define "woman" after meeting Tucker Carlson slamming Israel & saying they pushed him to report fake news Abdul E...l-Sayed's insane cringe videos going viral Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Chris @ChrisKarr17 (X) Libby @LibbyEmmons (X) | https://thepostmillennial.com/pod Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest:  Max Garely @maxzoltann (Instagram)

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Starting point is 00:00:02 So the WNBA had their emergency meeting where they couldn't conclude what a woman was. They said, you know, there are no eligibility issues. So we don't take kindly to these bad faith attempts to besmirch the league because it's all they could do. And this is exactly what we predicted. They weren't going to be able to come out with the definition of women because these are the games they want to play. Now the next step. I predict they're not going to entertain the draft paperwork for an essential. Cantor and Royce White. I hope
Starting point is 00:00:35 Anneson Royce sue citing discrimination if they are ignored because they formally submitted so they can't be ignored. So we're talking about that. We got a bunch of crazy stories that we're going to go through. Admittedly, guys, it's one of those news days. The big news everyone's talking about is like Trump's names in the Kennedy Center again. And I'm like, yeah, okay, I guess. And then all the big news networks, they're just leading with stories from earlier in the week. So we do have a bunch of stories that are interesting, some smaller. We
Starting point is 00:01:01 released our new video game on timcast.com. It is the legend of Hassan, where Hassan must face down wave after wave of his own dog using his electrical powers to put them in line. That's fun. But then we've got Tucker Carlson's Hunter Biden interview, which people have discussed, where Tucker says Israel made him a smear Hunter Biden. And then we've got in Minnesota. They are planning on an 11% tax hike, property tax hike. It's getting pretty crazy out there. And then we'll just talk about what's going on the news. You know what I mean? We got another funny story that apparently Trump is charging $100,000 for early access to his posts, which would basically give you a leg up on the stock market. So people are rightfully freaking out about that.
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Starting point is 00:03:51 Instagram. I'm trying to get more into X right now, but mostly I make reels and short videos on Instagram. Right on. And then Libby's here too. Yeah, I'm here. I'm here. I'm here with you guys. I'm the editor for the post-millennial and host of the pod millennial. We got the boys hanging out. Chris is here. What's up? Chris Carr. I'm a writer and editor and happy to be with the team tonight, guys. What's going on? Everybody knows who I am. I'm Phil. What's up Carter? Everyone knows who I am. I'm Carter. So let's get into it. We got a full stack tonight. Let's go. I love how all of the news outlets are handling this story. ABC 7 says WNBA denounces bad faith transgender debate and says League has no eligibility issues. It does.
Starting point is 00:04:32 That's such a transphobic headline. It's unbelievable. Well, what they're saying is that Royce White's experience where he said that he was afraid of flying was a manifestation of his gender dysphoria. They're basically saying this is this is the double-edged sword of the whole DEI trans stuff. Actually quite simple. If you're allowed to insult one, you're allowed to insult all. And if you're going to argue that Royce White is lying, then I can argue that, you know, give me, give me a name of somebody. Who's that congressperson? Sarah McBride. Lying. Tremaine Carroll. Bad faith effort. Sam McBride is a liar, faking it for brownie points among the Democrats. That proves it. Yeah. Tremaine Carroll,
Starting point is 00:05:11 the California alleged rapist who's trying to go into a woman's prison. Well, that one might be fake, right? I think, are they all fake? I think, yeah, that's the, I think that's the, I think that's really the point here. All of it is bad faith. We live in a society in which we can accommodate people. Well, we have the choice to accommodate people. Some people are going to say, no, I reject the fact that you're presenting yourself as a woman and I know you're a man. Some people are not, and they're going to use the preferred pronouns. But that's an individual choice. These people making demands for access to gender, and I don't even like to use the word gender, because I don't believe gender is a thing. I think it's just sex. But women's spaces, right? Like the fact that
Starting point is 00:05:55 they're making a demand for access to women's spaces, that's bad faith, because you're supposed to just take their word for it and play along with what amounts to their disorder, right? And again, we say this kind of stuff all the time, but there is no other disorder that people have where we entertain the disorder. If someone says my arm is not my arm, we don't say, well, that bad boy's got to go, right? Like, we just don't do that. Well, there is a doctor in the UK who did do that. He said that he had some kind of dysphoria and he was actually meant to be disabled.
Starting point is 00:06:32 So he went through this whole thing and had his leg removed. Yeah, that's crazy. Well, it's all crazy. But the broader point is, like, you're supposed, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the medical establishment is supposed to help people that deal with this. If you're schizophrenic, you don't say, you know what, the voices are probably right. You know, you just don't do that. In no other context, only crazy outliers where they say, okay, maybe you should remove a body party.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Hey, maybe those voices you're hearing, maybe they actually got a point. Like, that doesn't happen. Right. So the fact that we entertain this stuff, it's all bad faith. Well, the real bad faith, though, I think, is on the part of the WNB. who all of a sudden does not recognize gender self-ID after decades of us hearing that gender self-ID is the way to go that if you are a trans woman all you have to do is announce I am a woman I feel female and we're supposed to all believe that you are female so what's really bad faith is
Starting point is 00:07:37 telling Royce White and Ennis Cantor Freedom and I think another you know be femaleed be penist person, female, who has said that he, too, he, she, too, is eligible for the WNBA draft telling these people that they are not sincerely felt real women, that is in bad faith, given all of the rhetoric that we've had over the years. And I think that it is, this is the perfect thing that happened, that these men came out, God bless them, and basically women, these women came out. Yes, well, sure. Cursed with this massive dong. I'm glad they're living their truth. Sure, they're living their truth. You know what I mean? And then you also had some trans ad-adic activists being like, well, if you really feel it, then, you know, take some hormones and cut
Starting point is 00:08:26 your dick off. And it's like, you know what? We were told that it's gender self-ID that if a rapist identifies as a woman, he can get transferred into California Women's Correctional in Chow Chow Chila. And that's nobody's business. The ACLU has told us, we don't even get to know how many. Right? There's one guy in California who literally murdered a bunch of children and is now in prison with those children's mother, right? Same prison. I think the cult has abandoned these people. Has abandoned who? The trans stuff. The trans. I think, look at AOC. She's like, what one was crazy. And it's, I think the cult is the cult. The cult doesn't care what they're attached to. Their activism, their logic makes no sense. Well, we're a couple of things past trans at this point, right? Because it was.
Starting point is 00:09:15 BLM, then trans, then Palestine, like pro-Gaza stuff. This is why it's all Israel right now. Right, and now we're at ICE. So we're like two things past trans. I think, I think if you look at the left wing channels, they're not talking about trans, if they don't care. They don't want it. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:09:32 They like, we lost. So they're like Israel and then you get Tucker and, you know, a bunch of other people being like Israel and now they've got their coalition. And that was the nice thing too. I'm going to say this. Like, seeing this stuff from Tucker, I would not be surprised. if in two years, Tucker is a Democrat. Because look at the stuff he's advocating for in his show.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Prices are too high and this country is not about capitalism. This is unfair. And Israel, like, he may as well be Anna Kasparian at this point. I'm not even kidding. The thing, too, though, is like all of these people identify problems, but that does not mean that they know what the solutions are. You know, sure, prices, yes, prices are too high. I think that's true too.
Starting point is 00:10:12 but that doesn't mean government controls and price controls are the answer. I don't think Tucker believes in anything. I think he just tells his audience what they want to hear exactly. Yeah, of course. He's just a grifter. He's making way more money now than he did when he's at Fox News. You know, that's crazy. And it's not all just on the little nicotine things?
Starting point is 00:10:31 Well, I mean, he's, so the estimate from, what was it, like Hollywood reporter, or Forbes, I'm sorry, was that he's doing 20 million a year. But then you add his nicotine stuff. And I just, you know what I really love about the nicotine is how anti-conservative these products are, selling addictive degeneracy to conservatives. Like, look, look, I'm being a dick. I really don't care if you, what's his company called? Alp.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Those are his? Yeah, those are his. I see him on the TV. Yeah, I see him in force. It's better than smoking. And I don't care if you want to do drugs. I'm fairly libertarian in that regard. I'm not a conservative, you know, but it's funny that you've got people who are like, we've got a problem with degeneracy in this country and then, you know, he's all
Starting point is 00:11:05 like, you want some drugs? I know, depends on the drug, but yeah. Well, he's all for freedom, but he'll be Putin's lap dog, you know, just shipping to Russia. yeah uh i just want to make one point nicotine patches or the zins and stuff like that they're not smoking oh they're not smoking rules dude terrible for your like that's your lungs up you only look man when they come out smoking rule when they come out with the cigarettes they give you vitamins and minerals i am back on it man sorry for hitting the table um but yeah uh look Tucker Tucker is is he's got to be just going for the money
Starting point is 00:11:42 Right? It's fairly clear. And he kind of seems like he wants back in the fold. How do you say that? What makes you say that? Oh, he's budding up with Hunter Biden? It's really the buddying up with Hunter Biden, the not holding him to account for Burisma, not asking him any questions about that, not asking questions about, you know, the Ukraine loan withholding. So you think this is a play for the Democratic establishment people? No, I think he's just, you know, wants his friends back.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Back to CNN maybe? Yeah, back to that whole thing where, I mean, you see, like, it seems like it'd be nice to be warm and fuzzy in the fold just believing and telling the lies you're told. It is weird because I watched like half of that Tucker interview with Hunter Biden and I couldn't watch the rest of it. Same. It's kind of like insufferable. It's the best way I can describe it. Did you see what Seamus did for Freedom Tunes? But he did say that, like, he grew up on the same street as Hunter, something like that.
Starting point is 00:12:34 They were like, we grew up in the same town. Yeah, right. Right. Actually. We knew a lot of the same people. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I thought that was. all very weird.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah. I mean, look, why he sat down with Hunter Biden, I mean, I don't know. Maybe the Biden, maybe Hunter, you know, paid him to sit down and give him a softball interview because Hunter's looking to run or. But the Bidens are broke. Didn't, haven't you heard? I doubt it. That's what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Yeah, well, they made a lot of money in Ukraine, if I understand correctly. So, 80,000 a month for a while. I mean, that's not. nothing to sneeze at. But when it comes to, you know, back to the trans issue stuff, like the WNVA is not going to let these guys play. And no one on the left is going to make a stink about it, right? Like, it's just not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:13:26 And I do think that the trans stuff is over. I think that that was the thing that killed, that really took the steam out of the left and the whole woke movement. The trans people saying, look, you have to, you have to identify. you have to recognize my identity when your average person that was just like, well, you know, maybe it's, maybe, maybe there is, maybe there are too many black people getting killed by cops. Maybe the police are too aggressive. Maybe, you know, maybe that's actually true.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Maybe, you know, that didn't really look into it and they're like, you know, you know, generally they want to think of themselves as nice people and like, maybe they got a point. And then the whole LGBT stuff, you hear trans people saying, well, you know, if you don't S my D, you're a bigot. And dudes are like, whoa, hold on here. You know, because that wasn't, that wasn't very long until that was going to become a thing. There were already a lot of trans people that were making those remarks. There's still trans people on, on trans women on the internet that say, look, if you won't date a trans woman, you're a bigot.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And dudes are like, I do not care, call me a bigot. What did they say? Or, no, no, the girl penis. Like, come on, come on. Ballard-shaped object. Yeah. They were talking about the cotton ceiling, you know, the, the, the, the, the, Lesbians that would not date a trans.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Oh, yeah, that's another thing, yeah. I mean, they pissed everybody off. What does that mean? You know, panties, basically. Like, underwear. That's so weird. Hot and ceiling. So I want to jump to this next story, but I've got to make an announcement.
Starting point is 00:14:55 So for those that saw, I tweeted out at 738 that The Legend of Hassan video game is available at Timcast.com to play it. Go to read in the top bar or just click the link in my ex post. And you can play The Legend of Heson. Hassan in the long ago of seven months ago, Hassan faced down wave after wave of his own dog. He's in the power of electrocution to get them to fall in line. This is your quest. You are Hassan. The power is yours. And I do have to most ever driven off. 2,400 is at it. So here's the game. You know, it's a side-scrolling arcade shooter where all these dogs are, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:35 wave after wave of your own dog are coming up. You can earn experience points and then level up and shoes. I'm going to go with quickfire. There we go. So I can elect to shoot my dog faster. And then you'll notice the top right, my viewers, instead of getting points that go up, every time you electrocute your dog, your viewer count goes down. And there are a bunch of Easter eggs. So this was a joke that I made in three minutes on Claude, so I'll just tell you all the jokes. Once your viewer count gets to zero, it switches to kick, and your viewer count starts going up. Because on kick, they want you to electrocute the dog. And then I do have to announce that we have a I said that I would pay one person $100 for winning.
Starting point is 00:16:16 And I did not think it would happen this fast, but it did. And we got a winner here. I believe his name is Neil Williams. He said, don't hurt the dogs and indeed. In fact, if in the game, let's refresh it, if you don't electrocute your dog, they won't bite you. That's it. It's an important lesson for everybody.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Oh, wow, that's great. Don't electrocute your dog. So I sent Neil 100 bucks. And it says, congratulations. You didn't electrocute your dog. You win. After three waves of not electrocuting your dog, you win the game. So that's it.
Starting point is 00:16:52 That's the joke. It's pretty hilarious that you can make games in three minutes and put it on your website that quickly. Let's jump to the next story, though. We got this one from Middle East Eye. Tucker Carlson says Israel pushed him to report false allegations against Hunter Biden. Former U.S. President's son says, Netanyahu Operation Center was involved in disseminating alleged drugs and sex leaks. The claim that there was material involving abuse of minors on the computer came from the Israelis.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Carlson said in an interview aired on Monday. I'm just telling you that they came to me with it, and that's how I know it. Everything's fake. Bro, this is not true. Okay? Guys, I can't tell you how many people came to me and offered the hard drive. How many people offered you as hard drive? Couple.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Yeah. It was everywhere. And Hunter Biden signed off on dropping it off. Now, maybe that's all fabricated, but Hunter didn't even deny it. He was like, I have no recollection of dropping that off. And like, that's a legal answer you give in court when you know you did, but you don't want to perjure yourself. Right. And on the interview, I listened to probably as much of it as Carter did, they got into about how the laptop was probably misinformation from Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah. The pictures of Ukraine. From Ukraine? From Ukraine? Was it Ukraine?
Starting point is 00:18:14 I don't know. I watched his softwild one too, but in both of them he said like, yeah, it was totally like it came from Rudy Giuliani, made it all up, got somewhere else. Somebody else dropped it off. Right. But I thought maybe it wasn't Ukraine. Maybe it was Russia. I'm tired, you guys.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Sorry. I'll defer you. But it was definitely, they were definitely talking about how it was misinformation. And it sounded like a repetition of the Jen Saki talking. points and the 51 CIA agents who all said that it had hallmarks of Russian dis-infeld. He denied everything pretty good. And he wasn't pressed. I mean, Tucker did not press him.
Starting point is 00:18:48 That's the thing. You remember that interview he did with Ted Cruz? Like, you know, he basically held him up against the wall by his neck and his feet were dangling. And in this case, there was nothing. There was no pushback, no in-depth questioning. It was just like, well, yeah. Let me, let me, let me tie everybody something, right? right now on this episode we have on youtube 11,375 concurrent viewers on Rumble, we have about
Starting point is 00:19:14 9,000. That's low. That's low. This time last year, we would have been at 50,000 combined. But you know what? Look, we're in the summer. Election cycle's not yet started. And look, Trump's got a trifecta. There's no great political conflict right now for the most part. Now, for me, I've run this business for a really long time. Tucker actually is relatively new. How long has Tucker been doing his thing? A couple of years now? Yeah, like it's been a couple years.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I think the thing for Tucker is that, you know, he worked at Fox News for a long time. There's a couple arguments you can make. One that Fox constrains him. Basically, when he's at Fox, he's like, he's got producers and he says, what do I say? And so those famous monologues he had, you guys all know that those were written for him. And the dude who wrote it. Who does he work for now? Matt Walsh?
Starting point is 00:20:06 He works for Matt? Wow. I wonder Matt's great monologues. Yeah. He's killing it. So there were a couple of writers. There was one principal writer. Really talented.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Yes. And that was who was writing the monologues for Tucker. Tucker was just a guy to go on TV and sit there and read about it. So what's going to happen? Well, Tucker does his own show. And he's chasing the views. Here's the reality. Trump's got a trifecta.
Starting point is 00:20:29 He's got Congress. He's got the House. He's got the Senate. So he's got the legislative branch. He's got the Supreme Court. He's got the executive branch. Not that it's perfect or a strong trifecta, but this means that any issue we face in this country, everyone's pointing at him. Inflation is high, gas prices are up, burritos are 20 bucks. Well, Republicans got everything. They're the issue. So for the most part, regular Americans aren't hyper-focused on politics right now
Starting point is 00:20:54 because there's no great political battle. You did it, you got Trump and you're still unhappy, so people are kind of checking out. Not to mention, there's very few young people. If you want to maintain viewership, and we talk about this every political cycle, guys. I was hanging out Luke Khrasky's house in 2012 in the winter. Obama's about to get elected. And I was only doing a little bit of YouTube stuff. I wasn't really. I was doing live stream stuff at the time with Ustream.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Luke had been on YouTube for at that point, six, seven years. And so he said, after Obama's elected, all the views on our content is going to go to zero. because nobody cares about politics right after the election. Well, the truth is you'll get the first 100 days news cycle. And then that tracks. Basically, you get that first year of what's going to happen next. And with Trump's first year of a second term, there's a lot happening. USAID getting shut down.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Now, not a whole lot. I mean, we had big viewership when the war started. When we get big primary elections, then we can see viewership spikes. The Supreme Court rulings, our viewership spikes. We had one like three or four weeks ago. I can't remember what it was, but we ended up with like 60. I think we had 70,000 concurrent viewers. When there's political action, our views are through the roof.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And we know it because we're a news show. Now, what if you're, you know, Tucker and you're watching your views go down or some other, there's a bunch of other podcasters doing this? Well, you make a video about Israel and then you notice you get a little bit more views. So you make another video about Israel. And eventually you're like, hey man, rag it on Israel. We're getting a lot of views. Doing amazing.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I wonder where those views are from, though, because Americans don't really care all that much. I imagine if Americans don't care about politics, you've got a big audience with all these other Muslim countries that don't like Jews in Israel. It's not surprising. Maybe Dearborn. That we're seeing things like this. But I would also add for this is, guys, I said it before, I'll say it again. I reported in February that there were rumors in the Beltway that there was going to be, like with Tucker and with a bunch of these people, a breakaway coalition that would allow. left, try and pull Trump derangement moderates from the left so that the establishment is
Starting point is 00:23:05 worried about socialism. They might have even just stolen the election in Wisconsin. I don't know. But the pitch was Tulsi Gabb was going to resign. We were going to see a bunch of people break from Trump to form this like anti-war, anti-Israel, but respectful and not woke anti-Trump. The idea was that a lot of neocons and moderates joined the Democratic Party because they hate Trump. And this empowered socialists and like trans kid stuff. Well, when these elites are like,
Starting point is 00:23:34 well, we don't want any of that. That's bad. We're losing because of that. How do we maintain the anti-Trump, but attract more people? The rumor was that you were going to get this breakaway thing. And people ask me like, oh, you think like Tucker or Tulsi is going to be a Democrat? And three, four months ago, I was like, I don't know, that seems like a long shot. Not anymore. Not with Tucker apologizing to Hunter saying, you're a good dude and Israel made me do it. Now there's a perfect lineup for the Krasenstein's to come out and be like, Tucker may be a bad dude, but he's doing the right thing now. How much do you want to bet in the next several months following the primaries or whatever,
Starting point is 00:24:12 probably sooner than that, you are going to see mainstream libs, not like Kyle Kalinsky, but like David Pakman, say, you know, Tucker Carlson did some bad things, but he's owning up to it. And that's all we ask. And I actually think there's a decent probability following a Hunter Biden interview, that Tucker Carlson becomes a Democrat and actually advocates for moderate, sane Democrats in the 28th cycle. Do you think Marjorie Taylor-Grain will join him? Yep.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Yep. I don't think he's that principled. I mean, I think Tucker's kind of just like a bullied kid. If you remember, he used to wear bow ties until he got bullied into not wearing bow ties. I mean, I don't think Tucker really is that. I think he's really just about two things, and that's about being liked and then using that to make money. And maybe going fishing. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Yeah. Hawking his nicotine pouches. Right. That's part of it. You can do that while you're fishing. Oh, certainly. Film a great ad. Yeah, that's a good ad, actually.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Does he have one like that? I'm sure he does. He must. What do you think? If he were to go to like, you know, to become a Democrat, right? And say, we're the normal Democrats because everyone knows there's a civil war going on the Democrat party right now between the progressives and the and the normal Democrats. It looks like the normal Democrats are going to fall in line behind the progressives because they're the ones with the energy. They're the ones that are going to do the canceling if you step out of line.
Starting point is 00:25:25 etc. What do you think the chances of, of quote unquote, normal Democrats abandoning the progressives and falling? 100%. All the polling shows this. We had, I think, two polls now showing that it's nearly four to one when a Democratic socialist is up against a Republican, the Republican wins. So there was a, what was it? We pulled this up like three days ago. There was one that was published by Washington posted a poll. And they said that party favor of, for Democratic Socialists is like 20%. Party favorability for Republicans is like 55%.
Starting point is 00:26:01 When people are given the option to vote between a Democratic Socialist and a Republican, they vote Republican 4 to 1. So what I see is a strong probability. The rumors all make sense. I'm going to say it again. I was told earlier this year Tulsi would resign. And I question this stuff. Do you think that moves are made over resignations over a weekend?
Starting point is 00:26:21 When I reached out to some people, they were like, there's absolutely no way Tulsa is going to resign. I said on my show, like, the claim is like Tulsi's going to, there's going to be like this Tulsi, you know, she's a moderate, she joined Trump, but now she'll break away, maybe RFK Jr., obviously with Joe Kent. Everybody says, yeah, there's no way Tulsi's breaking away. And then a few months later, she resigns. And then I'm like, wait a minute. Then Hunter Biden, Tucker, do this show. And Tucker's like, I was completely wrong. I should never have supported Donald Trump. I mean, it's actually really bad. And it was Israel that made me report these things actually. And I'm like, well, here you go. Hunter Biden represents non-woke Democrats.
Starting point is 00:27:02 So what may happen, Phil, I think there's a potential there. I think they're planning for these contingencies. If in 2028, the Democratic Socialists have stolen the gas from the Democratic Party and they're going to win these primaries, they're going to send in their spoilers to pull as many moderates as possible from the Democratic Party to ensure a Rubio Vance ticket. So let's say that Vance and Rubio because Trumpism right now is not particularly popular. Economy's bad. War is very unpopular. Trump's now selling this access to his account like Joe Rogan's going like, what is happening? That's nuts. So yeah, it's crazy. We'll get to that in a second. But let's say you get a J.D. Vance, who is fairly vanilla Putin, like, you know, but people are going to be like, no, we don't want more of
Starting point is 00:27:44 this. Let's say that J.D. Vance can only muster up 43, 44%. The Democratic Socialists conquer the Democratic Party is anti-Trumpism to get the plurality, that's when you dispatch the Tucker ticket. He may not be a Democrat. They may be that third party he's talking about. It could be a Tulsi Gabbard Joe Kent ticket. But if that pulls 5% from the Democrats because there's going to be a bunch of Dems who are like, I hate Trump, but the socialists are crazy. I'm voting Tulsi. Vance wins. I mean, that would be, you know, the, the best outcome that I could think of, whether it be Vance or Rubio or whoever, the most likely whoever the conservative or the Republican candidate is, they're probably going to be better than
Starting point is 00:28:32 basically anything the Democrats have to offer, including, you know, Tucker Carlson. I mean, you went and I went and watched the whole hour and a half of him talking about his point by point thing. There's only a handful of things in it that I found that I, you know, that I wasn't particularly interested in. And most of the. it was his delivery, but it's, it really, I don't feel like that is going to, like that plan is going to resonate with regular, quote unquote, regular Democrats. Well, I was not going to watch an hour and a half of Tucker talking. He's never been my guy. I don't really keep up of him that much, but I read the bullet points that he put out. There are grievances. I mean, there's not a plan there.
Starting point is 00:29:13 There's just grievances. Some of them are good letter from Tucker. Some of them are fine, you know? Yeah, of course. People shouldn't live through debt. You know what I mean? But I got to be honest, the stuff that he's preaching is very aligned with left populism. So he had this whole thing today about Ben Shapiro being a sci-op, which is, it's crazy. He's basically saying, he kept saying they created Ben Shapiro over and over again. Elites in special interests. He said, this is, he said, Ben Shapiro is boomer's vision of what a young person thinks. And they're using Ben Shapiro to send this messaging, this political ideology to young people.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And it's like, and it worked because of the trans stuff, which we all think they probably created anyway. And it's again, it's just like, who is they, though? The Jew. Who is they, though? He then mentions Israel a couple times, but he doesn't explicitly say it. Yeah. So he talks about, he was complaining because Ben Shapiro said burritos don't cost $20. Good burritos cost $20.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And he said, if you can't afford a $20 burrito, too bad, save up, split rent with your buddies. And I would just think like everybody's wrong? I think everybody's wrong is usually the right answer. Yeah, no, I mean like burritos, a good high-quality burrito shouldn't be $20. Like a cholet burrito is $16. I don't know. I went to the, during burrito gate, I went to the Chipotle menu because I don't typically order Chipotle.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And I looked at a burrito and it was 1950 on the menu. And that's high quality. Yeah, I mean, you know, I tend to take my own beer and it's awesome and good and not 20 bucks because like the whole piece of meat. meat is 20 bucks. Taco Bell Burrito is like 350. Sure. I used to get California burritos all the time from this place in Philly when I was
Starting point is 00:30:56 much younger. And they were 8.50 and I got one every single day for lunch and it was like as big as my head. Yeah, but there are some spots in L.A. like just... Oh my goodness. Just out of Korea town. What's that street that Larchmont is on? Not Lajmont, across street. I can remember the name. I used to live there.
Starting point is 00:31:12 And if you walk down that, if you go from Larchmont and you head east, there's a Mexican restaurant with like Dirt cheap, massive burritos and they do that panini grill thing on them. Man, those were the days. My son still talks about, we went to, we went to L.A. a couple years ago, so I did do a thing with Prager. And we ate all the Mexican food in L.A.
Starting point is 00:31:32 We ate so much Mexican food. And there was this one burrito that we got. And it was 12 bucks. And it was giant. And he still talks about it as like the absolute best burrito he's ever had. It's the reason I started, I like, learned how to make biria and like burritos and stuff. other than just like, here's some taco meat, put it in the thing. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:52 It might be Beverly. I'm not sure if it was Beverly. But yeah, burritos, like a high quality burrito. I don't know. I don't think it should be 20 bucks. But then again, you know, there's a lot of things that are way too expensive. I'm tired of going to the grocery store and having like every steak I pick up be $35. This is all because of the inflation that we saw after COVID.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Like it takes, this is why inflation is so pernicious, right? A nasty bout of inflation is so pernicious and it hurts so bad is because it takes forever for wages to catch up. Oh, yeah. No one, like honestly, in 10 years, if there's no big economic shocks and wages catch up, people aren't going to think, oh, the $20 burrito is so terrible. They're going to be like, well, $20 isn't what it used to be, right? And it's true. But, you know, $20 now isn't what it was in 2005. But that's because of the inflation that we have.
Starting point is 00:32:45 And you can lay that directly at the feet of bad policy during COVID, right? Like they shouldn't have printed up all that money. In fact, to be honest with you, I would even go so far as to say that it was bad policy through the teens, right? They shouldn't have kept interest rates at zero just to keep the stock market afloat. You know, every time they tried to lower or to raise interest rates, the stock market took a tank. And whoever was President Trump, Obama, didn't matter. They all chickened out. What do you make of this, what do you guys make of this El-Sayed thing where he's like?
Starting point is 00:33:12 The Blue's Clues thing? No, there was the Blues Clues thing. No, there was the blues clues thing, but then also how he, how banks, how banks helped him have a Sharia mortgage, which means no interest. Yeah. I like that. Oh, Sharia. I'm sorry. No, no interest mortgage, really?
Starting point is 00:33:29 It was a no interest mortgage. So banking institutions have been working to create financial products specifically for Muslims that adhere to Sharia law. Well, hold on. I want one. Who doesn't want to fork in? I ain't going to come on. You still have to pay interest. So I actually just wrote a piece about this.
Starting point is 00:33:47 It should be coming out soon. Basically, the Sharia-compliant finance stuff, instead of charging you interest, they just buy the house, then charge you more for the house, and split that into, you know, 50 easy installments. So you're essentially paying interest. It's literally just the loophole to get around saying it's officially interest. And usually the rates are crappier because for the service that they provide, they want to make some money. So, yeah, not great. Oh, that's terrible.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Oh, I'm mad. I would have been mad, but like... That's a trick. If somebody was getting a no interest mortgage, I want one. Abdul El-Sayed has a bunch of really weird videos. The blues clues thing is weird. Should we pull that one up? Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Oh, man. Listen, I'm trying really hard because, like, right now, like, let me pull this up. Politics is really divided. And I'm like, I'm going to give this guy a fair shake. You know what I mean? I'm not. I'm gonna give this, I wanna give, you know, if he's gonna come out and say he's not a socialist, but the DSA's campaigning for him, I'm gonna say it like it is. DSA was campaigning on his behalf. He's claiming he's not a socialist. I don't, I don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:34:56 But come on, guys, you're ready for this one? This is gonna... It makes me want to wag my tail. When it comes, I want a whale. It was way better than when Steve did it. Yeah, I agree. Thanks, mailbox. We just got a letter. We just got a letter. We just got a... Let's just got a letter. I wonder who it's from. It looks like my ballot.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Brought to me by my Secretary of State. I thought this is AI. Oh my, yeah, so did I. The first day that I can turn this in is June 25th. It has to be postmarked by July 21st. Star Wars Adults. Or I can drop it off up until election day, which is August 4th. Disney adult, too.
Starting point is 00:35:44 30 year olds that buy Funko. Pops. Yeah. Seems like he wants kids to vote. We can't do. I don't understand. I think this is going to cost him the election. It should.
Starting point is 00:35:58 It should. The most offensive part to me was this right here. We just got a letter. We just got a letter. Because he's flat. He is terrible. Yeah. I was just.
Starting point is 00:36:15 You guys remember. I mean, that's from blues clues. That's the. Well, I mean, I'm, I mean, Blue's Clues was weird enough. I didn't watch. My kid will not be watching any of this weird psycho babel nonsense. We won't be watching Elsa Ede commercials even.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I ain't going anywhere near that psycho babble garbage. That's like crack for kids. But it's like it's like it's it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, a content. is real in a sense. Like, you can put on a show that's exciting with loud music, but it's real people doing real things. Like a guy is playing rock music and a band and everyone's screaming and cheering. And then he's pointing and everyone's laughing. But those are things real humans do. But this children's stuff is like, it's like, this is what Ian sees. Like when, when I go to get my mail, I go and I grab the letters and I walk upstairs and I'm like, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:37:18 Phil, I think someone sent you a fan mail or something. And Phil will be like, oh, okay. And then I'll be like, oh, he's got a bill, some tax thing. Oh, here, Chris, someone sent a letter to you. Ian is sitting there watching me, and I'm the blues clues guy going, we just got a letter. Hey, Phil, it's fan mail. And Ian's sitting there with his eyes all big, like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:37:36 That's what kids are doing watching this stuff. You are inducing that in their brains. That being said, back to the main point, Abdul Al-Sahed, Lord Have Mercy, what are you doing? There's more. Should I pull up the other stuff? He thinks he's appealing to his voter as he infantilizing. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Infantilizing them. Well, I mean, the Democrats do want to lower the voting age to 16, but even still, this seems. Yeah, this is way below that. I have no idea who this is. Wait, what is this? No, this is not real. Is this real? Right?
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah, for real. Is this real? I can't tell if it's AI anymore. Is this real? Oh, man. I fear it might be. That doesn't. look like AI.
Starting point is 00:38:21 I know. We're going to get a strike for that stupid song. I mean, look, I love that song, so I'm not going to talk. This is real? Yeah, that's totally real. You know what? It's not more outlandish than the blues clues. Guys, I figured it out.
Starting point is 00:38:41 I'm going to run as a Democrat, and you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to wear Harry Potter robes. And the debate, literally, literally. you know, during the debate. I'm just going to stand there in the robes and the wand. And then whenever someone says something,
Starting point is 00:38:56 I'm going to cast a Harry Potter spill. He's going to be like, your tax policy, confund us! And then the crowds are going to go, they're all going to be screaming like Harry Potter. And then I'll be like, guys,
Starting point is 00:39:08 what he just said, it's what Darth Vader would say. And then they're all, my point is, this works. He won. Yeah, he did. He actually won the primary.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Yeah, he's. So, but Francesca Hong didn't. You think that they, you think they stole it from her? She was up for like, by like, less than a point for five minutes. I think they're still, I think it's the way around. Like the dude from Milwaukee, Milwaukee has an error and the dude from Milwaukee wins. And he was behind. Like, my question is, maybe the-
Starting point is 00:39:38 Crowley was behind in the polls, but he was never behind on election night. Like, I was watching that thing. Back in 2018? Oh, no. I thought you meant Tuesday. Oh, no, no, yeah, yeah. Because other Crowley was the AOC Crowley, remember? Yeah, isn't that the guy's name, David Crowley?
Starting point is 00:39:51 I think so. I wasn't even paying any attention to him. So she was up in the polls by double digits. So either the polls were totally wrong. Had her at 99.9 to win. Bro, if on election day, you went on one of these prediction markets and put $100 bucks down, which is that point one, 10 hours later you'd have cleared $13,000. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah, that is crazy. Because they were all wrong. First thing I did when I saw her, when I saw her lose, I was like, I'm looking up all the primaries now where the Democratic socialists are favored to win heavy in the polls. There's a couple coming up. There's one in Florida. And I'm just like, they're all switching now. Basically, everyone's like, the polls are wrong, bet against them. The polling has been screwed up for years and years now? Yes, but has it? That's the question. The dude from Milwaukee, who was behind in the polls, there's an accidental error benefiting him in Milwaukee. Right, with the like five USB drops or
Starting point is 00:40:44 whatever. We got the wrong data on it. We have to go and check. So the argument people, are making is that the checking was that they needed to know the exact tally numbers the end of the night so they knew how many fake ballots to add. I'm not saying that's true. I'm just saying maybe the socialists actually are doing really well and Syed was supposed to lose but they didn't cheat enough. Do you think they're that organized? Like I feel like the- Whoa, whoa, wait, what do you mean? I think they're pretty organized. Are you saying if like one woman in Milwaukee County could flub five USBs? Absolutely. Fair enough. You don't need a. You don't, for a primary, you don't, you don't, I mean, this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Milwaukee is the dense urban population. That's where you're going to get your biggest density of votes per USB stick. So when they go missing, again, I don't know. I don't want to speculate. I'm just saying the rumors online are that they wait until 3.50 a.m. or whatever to see what the vote count was. So they knew no more likely come in. That way, okay, we're going to need 20,000 votes so he can't lose. If you do it early on and your margins are off, he loses.
Starting point is 00:41:52 So that's why the ballot dumps are always at two or three in the morning. I don't know, though. I don't look at me. It would, I guess the challenge is if, if the machine, I don't know, it's kind of weird. To see the dude Cornacki on NBC just be completely dumbfounded. You guys saw that? Yeah. That was wild.
Starting point is 00:42:10 And then he, he, I can't remember what the quote was, but he was like, how do I say this? I, uh, and everyone's like, he wants to say they. stole the election, but he can't because he's on NBC. So I just wonder, maybe I got, you know, knowing the, the libs that I know, I think what he's doing is going to work for him. Like, I'm not even kidding, guys.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I'm pretty sure that if Syed showed up to a debate dressed as a Harry Potter character and literally did what I explained, he'd do well. They'd be like, he won the debate because he spoke to his audience. Yeah. I mean, it's a clown show. We're like, we're like two elections away from Alando.
Starting point is 00:42:47 What's his name? Elizondo, the guy from the president from idiocracy. Oh, yeah. You know? Is it Alondo Elando Elizondo? Camacho. It was Elizondo Camacho, something. Mountain Dew Herber or something like that. I forget what is. All they drink is Gatorade. Yeah. They were on the crohn do. No, Brondo. They water and they water the crops with them. They can't figure out why things are growing.
Starting point is 00:43:08 But, I mean, not kidding around. Like, we're just a couple of elections away from that. I mean, personally, I think that it started with, like, you know, President Obama wanted to slow jam. the news and and and because you know he was kind of the first social media president and stuff and Donald Trump that's that's exactly well yeah maybe yeah maybe yeah maybe yeah open the door for it yeah I mean MTV the MTV generation the whole rock the vote thing that that that might have actually been the beginning so fair enough but then you know Barack Obama wanting to do all the the appearances on late night TV and stuff Donald Trump being a TV personality before he was even a president obviously turned it up.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Like seriously, there's going to be some, you know, like Sean Michaels is going to run and you're going to have like he's going to walk out to do the state of the union with the sexy boy song. Right. You know? Sean Michaels is a wrestler for you. Bro, it's like idioticrasies was not wrong.
Starting point is 00:44:04 You know, Mike Judge was pathetic. He's always right. Office space was perfect. Yeah. And there's more videos. Should I pull up the rest of them? Let's see them. I guess so.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Everyone's like, yes, I'd like to see that. I don't even know how to find it. It was singing? Yeah, there's definitely been singing. The blues clues one is the one that's really taking off. It's like disturbing. Yeah. I didn't know what to think of that.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Still don't. Well, it's not the democracy that we need, but I think it's the democracy that we deserve. Yeah. That's terrible. We let too many people, we let too many people vote. Well, I mean, it is what it is. I mean, we picked our bed and we lay in it. This is the quality of candidates that we're looking at.
Starting point is 00:44:47 We allow too many people to vote, so you have to appeal to the lowest common denominator. We're really close on that, Phil. How about nobody votes? I mean, I am being swayed. I am being swayed. Like, the whole democracy thing. I can't actually find the other ones. He's got a bunch of these, though.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I saw a great meme. Like someone had, it was George Washington saying, you let women vote. And there was a guy behind him saying, you let people vote. The joke is like, people always. say the founding fathers, man, if they saw what was going on today, they'd be busting camps already. And it's like, bro,
Starting point is 00:45:25 you went to the founding fathers, they'd be like things went wrong in 1830, not 1999. Things went wrong in... They'd be like blasphemy's legal? You'd be like, yeah, you'd be surprised, boys. Things went wrong in, you know, the 1760s.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Well, this is one of the arguments, some of the more reactionary Democrats make is that they say that Thomas Jefferson anticipated the Constitution being rewritten every like couple generations. It's true. Yeah. And the issue, I'm, Thomas Jefferson, how do I say this? Thomas Jefferson was wrong about a lot.
Starting point is 00:46:05 He was right about a lot, but it was wrong about a lot. Cool house, though. Cool house, right? He was right about the founding of this country. And I think he was wrong about religion. And I think he was wrong about the re-ring of the Constitution. and I'm glad some of his ideas didn't get implemented. He was wrong about the French Revolution.
Starting point is 00:46:20 He was very pro-French Revolution in the beginning. And he's like, whoa, wait a second. The Jacobin's, you guys are nuts. You know? And that's the point because he said something about a Constitution would need to be rewritten because he made a point about... Was it every 40 years because that's the generational? I don't think he's at 40, but it might have been.
Starting point is 00:46:38 But his point was that it would be absurd in 200 years for dead men to be, you know, making the laws for a wholly different people. The problem is Thomas Jefferson's life, the way he lived technologically, was functionally identical to 200 years before. The technological advancements were so dramatically minimal. Like they had muskets for hundreds of years. Muzzle-loading muskets for hundreds of years and no one thought to rifle or make cartridges until the 1800s. And this isn't an argument to get more people involved in the way that your society is organized. right just because Jefferson said oh you know we should you should rewrite the
Starting point is 00:47:20 Constitution every 40 years or whatever he said doesn't mean that oh every Tom Dick and Harry should be allowed to vote and have a have a say and we should have a democracy where every single person gets to vote and at that matter and every you know every vote counts that shouldn't be the way that society is organized like that's the reason why we have representatives right that that's the reason why the federal government is supposed to be limited because Congress people can't be expected to know to know the ins and outs of every vote that they're taking the government is supposed to have very few the federal government supposed to have very few powers
Starting point is 00:47:55 and then the the states are supposed to have more power to to rip to affect the daily lives of the people that live in those live in those states and your minipalities are really where you're going to actually have the biggest effect you can go down the street and look for your selectman and yell at him if uh you know he passes a a bill that you don't like you got a whole lot more chance of affecting your life if you're dealing with your local legislator somehow than then if you're dealing with you know your congressperson who you know represents however many people they represent yeah 400,000 or something like that yeah so the argument that the left makes they say oh they they wanted the founders wanted to rewrite the constitution
Starting point is 00:48:35 that doesn't mean that they wanted to have like you deciding how I get to live you want to know someone crazy. There was a shooting in my neighborhood in Chicago recently. And it was like, I don't know the story though, because it's only, I'm just hearing it from like friends, but like I get sent a video about the news report from my neighborhood. And it was like old people. It wasn't, it was, it was right outside of a school. So I pop up in this video on YouTube and I'm watching and I hear the lady saying, like, you know, the shooting happened and they're showing shots of the streets and the shots of the school. And it shows all the locals like standing outside of their houses watching because the squad cars have blocked the road off.
Starting point is 00:49:12 and this is the neighbor that I'm from, everybody was Indian. Really? All the people. I mean, there was like a handful of people. It's not like there was 10,000 people in the street. But like people standing in, so like Chicago houses on the south side to give a small lawn.
Starting point is 00:49:28 And so people are standing on their porches and standing on the sidewalk. And I'm like seven or eight Indian people in front of the houses. And I was like, wow. Like no beef. I'm just pointing out that where I, like my neighborhood where I grew up, this area of Chicago
Starting point is 00:49:42 was all Polish and like white, like, I guess, I don't want to say redneck because it's Chicago. Like, like you. Somewhere in between. I mean, they were city billies, you know what I mean? City billy. That's nice. City Williams. I like City Williams.
Starting point is 00:49:58 We give them respect. City billies. And not hillbillies. But that's where I grew up. So it's like we were on the border of the south suburbs. There's a suburb of Summit. We called it Scummit. Some people probably live there right now.
Starting point is 00:50:11 They're mad at me for calling it. dead or they're going, no, he's right. Yeah, we call it scummit. But now it's like what was once a Polish migrant neighborhood and largely just like white working class cops and firefighters. My friends are like, it's all Latino, Indian, and some Asian now. Right. And it's like the point I bring up is one, you know, the demographics are absolutely changing. There's a desperation because there's no young people. Nobody had kids. But also what does this mean for our constitution? If we were to rewrite it every time, oh, bro, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, We're in for a storm, I'll tell you what, because it doesn't matter if you do or don't rewrite the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:50:48 If we all here are raised on the American tradition and believe in free speech and gun rights and now we're all going to get a bunch of suppressors for every single gun we own, and we're going to get stocks for our pistols, which I guess technically makes them SBRs according to the ATF, but that won't matter anymore. We're all smiling as we do. And then when the police have a problem with that we say, you can't search our stuff and we have a right to confront our accusers, what happens when it's not all of us here raised on the American truth? tradition, but two or three of us and then 17 dudes from China who are like, in China, you get arrested first. And then you get beaten and told to shut up. And then what, and then, and then harvested. And then what happens when we're debating in, what happens in our Supreme Court in 50 to 70 years? It has seven justices that are the children of Chinese migrants. And they're on the court and they say, the First Amendment clearly doesn't mean you can say anything you want. The first amendment,
Starting point is 00:51:42 The First Amendment just meant that if you were going to be polite in public and adhere to the party's wishes, you could express your opinion. Free speech means you're allowed to agree with us. Because what the founding fathers really were worried about is that when you wanted to express your dear love for the little red book, they would tell you to be quiet while leader is speaking. What happens when they start doing things like that? The right to keep in bare arms meant literal bear arms. The founding fathers are talking about going hunting. And when you hunt a bear, you put his arms in your office. And then when we say that's not what the founding fathers meant, they go, it doesn't matter because
Starting point is 00:52:14 we're the Supreme Court and we say it so. The answer for that should be saved for the after show. My point is Thomas Jefferson did claim like you'll need a new constitution for a new people. And I'm like, nah, you have to amend the Constitution. And we haven't been doing that. We've been legislating the Constitution through the Supreme Court. And it's resulted in this whack-a-loon world where we don't have a Constitution anymore. sorry guys we just don't if you think the constitution as written is what the founding fathers
Starting point is 00:52:43 wanted it to be you are wrong and it's funny how conservatives and progressives both simultaneously agreeing and disagree with me when I say this there are some progressives who are like you're absolutely incorrect it's Trump he's destroying the constitution then there are progressives that I meet that are like no yeah you're right that's never you know I get these like far lefties and they say you are completely correct him the founding fathers were white nationalists white supremacists and they wanted more they wanted blasphemy laws and they had them then you can I talk to conservatives and they're like, no, we're adhering to the Constitution's initial intent.
Starting point is 00:53:11 The founding fathers did not think that a state had no right to ban you from winning guns. The founding fathers thought that if Virginia wanted to pass a law banning guns, that's their problem. The federal government wouldn't be allowed to do it, but Virginia can do what Virginia does. The founding fathers thought that free speech did not mean you could blaspheme the name of Jesus Christ. In fact,
Starting point is 00:53:27 when you're making that joke about, he's like, you let women vote. They'd actually be like, you let Catholics vote? Right. That would be shocking to them. Yeah, it was a big deal when JFK was elected as the first Catholic because, I mean, you know, he might have allegiance to the Vatican, you know, as opposed to the United States. Indeed. Imagine where our Constitution is going to be, as I described it in 50 years, as these demographics change.
Starting point is 00:53:53 We're going to get, it's going to be fascinating. I guarantee you this, if Islam continues to expand in the United States as it is. Hold on, guys, there are variables. I don't know that it will. But if you can envision a 20 or 30% Islamic faction in the United States, I guarantee you, you will get Supreme Court rulings on the question of free speech where they will say things like the found, you will get, I guarantee you this, as long as the density of Islam is high enough, a legitimate argument setting precedent of free speech where the sitting justice Abdul Mohammed Syed says the founding fathers. would arrest you for blasphemy. You could not blaspheme. That law only later on were these issues challenged.
Starting point is 00:54:47 It is entirely constitutional to make it illegal to besmirch the good name of the prophet. Peace be upon him. Yeah, I mean, they could make changes whatever they want, really, at the Supreme Court. They seem to not be entirely concerned with precedent. I actually... Real quick, my argument is...
Starting point is 00:55:06 There is historical precedent for the banning of blasphemy. So if you were to ask a Supreme Court justice right now, can we ban blasphemy? A justice could say, yes, the founding father's full intention was that blasphemy was not covered by the First Amendment. They won't because of the ideology of the justices. But they've also heard cases on blasphemy sins. And they can overturn them. They can, but they... And Islamic Court would do it.
Starting point is 00:55:34 precedent that says that they'd have to go against. Indeed, and they overturned president all the time. They generally avoid doing that. But that's not the point because I guarantee you an Islamic Supreme Court would be like no problem. Well, in Islamic Supreme Court. And the point I'm making is not that any immediate Supreme Court just would, but that I guarantee you if you got at least a soft majority of religious Islamists on the Supreme Court, they're going to say the United States has a strong tradition when it was founded.
Starting point is 00:56:03 the founding father's intention on the First Amendment was that blasphemy would not be covered by free speech. It is only because of an attempted reinterpretation by progressive groups that this was ever allowed. And if the American people want blasphemy to be free speech, you need to amend the Constitution. Thus it is so ordered, reversed. And then they're going to be like, it's going to be a case involving someone drawing a picture of Muhammad or something. I am not saying Islam will take over. I'm not saying they will get into the Supreme Court. I'm saying Islam is a strong religion.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Muslims do not have the same issues Christians do. Christians stand back and say, you know, live and let live. I'm not trying to, you know, Muslims do not do this. Well, Christians extend their values to those who disagree with their values. And they extend that grace. And that can turn into a problem. And it lacks a certain measure of self-preservation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:58 And I mean, that's, I think that's kind of the argument that I, that I'm summing up. when I say that liberalism can't deal with authoritarianism. Well, I guess if you listen to Tucker, Islam's not that bad, actually. And Israel made me say that they were. We're not going to listen to Tucker, though. Just saying. You know, what's really funny, though, is like there's a lot of irony and paradoxes within the conservative arguments against Islam and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:26 I was watching this video on Instagram, and it was a dude who was like out on the street and holding a sign saying like, Islam is a threat. to this country. And then two like, LGBT people were like, that's offensive is Islamophobia. And then he was like, what, what's wrong? Like, why do you think it's not a threat? And they were like, you're being a bigot to like an entire people. And he was like, would you want to live in Saudi Arabia? And they're like, that's not worth saying. And he was like, if they came here and implemented their government, they're going to force women to wear burkas. Women won't be allowed to vote. And they're going to throw gay people off roofs. And then the LGBT, it's like a trans guy and woman.
Starting point is 00:58:01 they were like, we're done, we're leaving. Yeah. And he's like, I'm saying this for you. I don't understand. It's fascinating to me that it's progressives that would suffer the most under Islamic law or Sharia and it's conservatives that recognize the, that it goes too far in one direction. But there's a lot of things conservatives would absolutely like that that's in these countries. That's such an interesting thing.
Starting point is 00:58:24 I was thinking about that with regard to the Mahmood Supreme Court case, which I think actually, oddly enough, I think Sotomayor was right in her argument that it goes against the West Virginia case from like 18, whatever. So West Virginia had this Supreme Court case ages ago. I think it was 18 something, whatever, I don't remember, sorry guys. But West Virginia schools said that Jehovah's Witnesses had to do the Pledge of Allegiance. And the Jehovah's Witness family was like, no, we don't believe in that. And so West Virginia said, okay, then don't come into school. And the Jehovah's Witnesses, witnesses said we still get to go to school, we just don't have to do the pledge of allegiance. And eventually what the Supreme Court decided was you can't tell them they can't come to school
Starting point is 00:59:07 if they don't want to do the pledge of allegiance, but they don't have to do the pledge, but they do have to sit there through it, right? Because you're not free from exposure to ideas that you disagree with. And then in the Mahmood ruling with Montgomery County, Maryland, we had a situation where kids were getting like weird LGBT. books read to them. And the parents, Mahmood, and like, you know, it was like a coalition, like it was Muslim parents, Christian parents, I don't know, like Jewish parents, some other kind parents, whatever. They all were like, hey, we don't want our kids to have to be subjected to this, which I agree. I don't want my kid to be subjected to that trash either. And I do want him to
Starting point is 00:59:50 say the Pledge of Allegiance, right? Okay. So in the Mahmood ruling, the Supreme Court said, you allow opt-outs for other things like sports activities. So you have to be a lot of to allow advance notice opt-outs for these things. And if you don't allow the opt-outs, then it's a violation against the religious liberty rights of these families because it's an undue burden to make them have to, you know, send their kids to religious schools. Well, so my question for everybody is, should women vote? Yeah. Well, I mean, I think women should vote. What do you think? I think women should vote. What do you think? Nobody should vote. No voting. I'll say it till I'm dead. No voting.
Starting point is 01:00:29 At all. I'm sympathetic to Chris's perspective. So should everybody vote? I think, you know, everybody who's of legal age to vote should vote. Wrong. You're a communist. You're a communist. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:42 What do you think? Should everyone vote? Absolutely not. I mean, if you look at people with, like, for example, intellectual disabilities, like we can't let somebody who has, like, profound intellectual disabilities vote because they just don't understand what's going on. It would be, like, almost inhumane to, like, stand them up in a line and try and make them force them, from their conclusions.
Starting point is 01:00:59 I think if you have any kind of disorder that would be defined as a perception misalant with reality, you should be a lot of vote. So that would be like all of the people who are like, I'm new or a divergent and that's interesting. No voting for that. No voting for you. Okay. Yeah. No vote for you. Look, if there's like a thing that is and you don't think it is, you can't vote.
Starting point is 01:01:24 You know what I mean? I'm being very specific. You think you can change the weather? with your mind. You don't believe in objective reality. I'm saying that if I stand before you and, you know, I show you a car and you're like, that's a giraffe. I'll be like, can you define what a giraffe is?
Starting point is 01:01:44 And like, it's a large mammal with many, with a large neck. And you're like, okay, that's not correct. You can't see functionally. So the problem, the reason why you shouldn't be allowed to vote is because if I asked you to drive the car and then you ran off in the wrong direction, you know, let's say somebody is dying. And I'm like, quick, get in the car and drive it. And then they run up and jump on a bike and then slam into a wall. You're like, that person shouldn't be dictating how this country functions. But blind people could vote. Deaf people. Yes. Well, what about, uh, disability? I'm
Starting point is 01:02:10 talking about a mental disorder by which your perception of reality is incongruous with reality. So we used to have these rules, right? There used to be like rules in the South where you had to pass certain tests to be able to vote. Yes, yes, yes. But those tests were insane. I was rigged. It was really rigged. Well, the Supreme Court said you can't do this and now, Louisiana any time you ever seen these tests. You've to clear it with us. No, I didn't. They're ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Should there be some kind of tests? Maybe, but the problem is, if you're alive, you can't vote. Chris, no, no, no, no, okay, listen. The problem is, so this is an example of a literacy test from Louisiana, is that the people in power can create a question with multiple answers and then say, oh, no, you, we meant the other one. Right. No.
Starting point is 01:02:55 You got it wrong. Chris, do me favor like unpack your perspective on voting and how, like what your worldview is about voting and stuff like that? Well, I'm coming at it from an anarcho-Christian point of view. You know, I mean, we think about the political spectrum between right and left, Democrat, you know, Republican, liberal, libertarian, commie, whatever. They all agree that there has to be some sort of an elected or appointed leadership. The anarchic spectrum is totally different. It's on a different narrower portion of the inverted triangle.
Starting point is 01:03:26 And we all anarchists agree that you don't need a leader. Look at this question. Draw line from circle two to circle five that will pass below circle two and above circle four. So what? You have to go through it. From two, under two. So you're going to start at the bottom and go under and then come up here and then go to five. Yep.
Starting point is 01:03:48 In the line below, cross out each number that is more than 20 but less than 30. Hey. So see, I think that above the letter. make a small cross. And then, so it's questions like this that often get people bring up because what if you did a plus sign? They go, that's not a cross.
Starting point is 01:04:03 That's not a cross. That's not a cross. A cross is like the small T. Like, it's ill-defined. You could always just be like, look, this is upon which they crucified my lord. It's cross. That's actually true. I mean, that's probably what they were saying.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I mean, look, I'm in... Circle the first. Look at this. Circle the first, first letter of the alphabet in this line. the first first letter of the alphabet so the first no no hold on circle the first comma first letter of the alphabet what does that mean i think it's the first first first letter yes so the a in alphabet yeah when it could be first first first letter of the alphabet in this line the first maybe i'm stupid but i have no first time the a a appears or could be if a b appears before the a then you would nope what are you saying nope it says
Starting point is 01:04:51 circle the first, comma, first letter of the elephant in the line, meaning they want you to circle the first. So you'd circle first. I could interpret this however I want. Well, I think that's probably the point. The point is to stop black people from voting. That's why these, that's why they said you can't do this. Right. Draw a line under the
Starting point is 01:05:09 last word in this line. So that it wasn't racist. Draw a line under the last word in this line. Draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence. It's funny. the number or letter, this would be one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:26 There's Canadian staffers at the Post-Molennial, and we have midterms this year, and they're like, you guys are always voting. What is this? How is it more vote? Wasn't there elections last Tuesday? Yes, there's elections every Tuesday until midterms. I got it.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Have you guys ever seen the speed reading videos where the war just flashed on the screen? You ever see these? Yeah. It'll do like a thousand words. and they flash on the screen for a fraction of a second. And it's like, yeah, if you can read this, you're not stupid. So how about we do 600 words per minute,
Starting point is 01:05:57 giving you the instructions on how and where to vote? And if you couldn't follow it, you can, that's... I have a much simpler solution. We just allow people to sell their votes, and then kind of the dumbest contingent of society would just sell their votes. I mean, I guess you could say it discriminates against poor people because we need the money.
Starting point is 01:06:11 But we already have people selling their votes, right? In California on Skid Row. Allegedly. $2 for a signature on a petition? I like the net taxpayers. can vote. Look, and I know that does favor our libs because they live in cities and they pay more taxes typically, but I'm fine with it
Starting point is 01:06:26 because then the people in the cities who have the money are going to be like, I ain't voting for more taxes. That would be a good thing. Look, I'm an agnostic, but I would actually, I think I'm, and I haven't fleshed this thought, this idea out, but the idea of having like
Starting point is 01:06:43 a federal government that's based on Christian religion that doesn't change, And then your, you know, your states can vote. Just don't have any federal voting. Nothing federal level. So how do we get federal stuff?
Starting point is 01:06:59 Well, you could have, I don't, I don't know. Maybe it would, maybe it would be something like the state legislatures. You can vote for your state legislatures. The state legislatures decide who's going to be running the federal government. Some states are like that. Like the state legislature decides. Used to be for the Senate. Yeah, the Senate is.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Let them elect the president. Let them elect the Senate. No more House of Representatives. Your representatives are in the state. And then they just stay there. The House of Representatives is my favorite body of government. That's because it's a clown show. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:27 It's funny. Yeah. You know, we all can laugh at them. Everybody always likes their representative and they still think Congress is trash. Yeah. Yeah, because this is literally an argument. This was true in Brooklyn too. I liked my representative.
Starting point is 01:07:38 This is an argument against voting. Everybody likes their own representative. Nobody likes Congress. Well, maybe we shouldn't be. Well, because none of those representatives can get along with each other and come up with anything worthwhile. I don't know, but the whole idea of like everybody should vote. I hate MTV
Starting point is 01:07:56 for the rest of my life because of the whole rock the vote thing. Paris Hilton looks so cute. Paris Hilton did look cute. But it doesn't change the fact that everybody shouldn't be voting. Like the nobody votes. I'm with Chris. All right. Here we go. It's cleaner. What do you think like? Just king
Starting point is 01:08:12 Trump? Well, no, no king. No monarch, no king. No appointed ruler or leader. That's where we differ. I think that you... And how do you run things? Well, listen, we're always going to be subjects to the state. And there's no place on earth that I can go where... Malice talks about this, too, there's no place on earth I can go where I'm not going to be a subject of the state and subject to its many abuses. I disagree. I disagree. That, I disagree. You don't think that the state is going to abuse its citizens in any way that it can anywhere on...
Starting point is 01:08:40 No, no place I can go where I wouldn't be subject to the state. Where would you go? Middle the woods? Pennsylvania and a wild state. I mean, you're going to have to pay tax. are still going to be a state. You could go to a class society. Huh? You could go to places like, no, no, no. My question is at what point in human history ever was there a place you could go that you would be subject to some person claiming, you know, authority? It doesn't exist.
Starting point is 01:09:02 It's always been that way. It's never existed. In which case, it's, I argue that the claim that there's nowhere you can go has an implication that there perhaps could have been if, if, but not for the existence of the state. But in fact, if you go back to any point in human history, no matter, where you went, someone claimed authority. So you could have been literally in the Western Front, you know, in the late 1800s, and the U.S. government, the Mexican government, Canadians, Native Americans, someone was going to say it's ours. There was nowhere you could go at any point in history. It's just a difference in population density, in which case, go up to the Yukon, you can do
Starting point is 01:09:39 whatever you want. And the fact that nature abhors a vacuum, like if you don't have some kind of authority, whether we like the idea or not, very few people are going to say, well, you know, actually we all agree with Chris and so it's blah blah blah there's going to be people that are going to be in positions of authority you're going to be hierarchical you're going to go there's an island in the middle of nowhere and you're going to be like this is the one place where i will be free from the authority right yeah and i imagine you're going to have tools and a gun and you bring your family and you build a little house and you got a little fishing area with some nets and then one day three random people show up and they say uh we're going to take all your stuff what are you going to say to them you give it to
Starting point is 01:10:15 you're going to give away your stuff because you're an anarcho christian and you're not attached to your life or your things. So they come and they take all your stuff and murder your life. They murder your family and then just leave you. Jesus said that. He said if you love your life, you'll lose it. So when they show up on the island, they slaughter your family and you just go on. Well, it's always about, everybody else talks about slaughter. That's like the extreme, you know, example. And I get that. They tie you up to take all your stuff and leave you to die. Then you participate in the suffering of Christ. So you just watch your family die, you just give up? I think that's also called Quaker. But no, hold on. I have no problem with if that's your worldview. And I think that's why
Starting point is 01:10:47 Christianity is being crushed by Islam. Well, because nature abhors a vacuum and someone that has the opinion of, I'm going to take this, I'm going to make this mind, I'm going to exert my will on the people that don't want to stand up for themselves, that's going to happen. Of course. I mean, yeah, you're not going to be in a situation where you're not going to encounter violence, but the question is, do you respond to violence with violence and hope that that solves everything? Well, it will certainly solve someone not killing your family.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Well, not necessarily. Well, yes, you may not succeed, but I guarantee you if you do nothing, then your family dies. So you have the choice of, I'll try to have my family live, or I'll give up and let him kill my family. Well, I mean... The math on this is actually quite simple. If Christians hold this view of, I will let the Islam do what they want, then Christianity will cease to exist in a couple hundred years. And that's fine, I guess. Sooner.
Starting point is 01:11:44 I mean, I share a different view. I mean, people that are truly animated by the Holy Spirit and their love of Christ and their determination to live as he lived can actually affect lots of change. Do you think that Islam is expanding? Oh, yeah, of course. And in the United States as well. Yes, of course. Do you think that they will impose their religion by force? They couldn't do otherwise.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Will Christians let them? Yeah, we'd be martyrs. And then in 100 years, when there's no Christians left, then what? Well, that's not how the book ends. that's not how the book ends i mean i i have a glimpse of what eternity is going to be on this earth and christ wins in the end i think that uh i think christ there's an argument that revelation is there's there's there's predictive descriptive and uh i always forget the three um predictive and um what's the what's the other one look for it there's three the predictive is here's what is
Starting point is 01:12:41 going to happen. Here's how the book ends. The descriptive is, here is what has happened. And the third one, I forgot the word is, here's what you must do. It's kind of all three. Prescriptive. Yeah. There's predictive of, here's how the book ends. The people who believe in the predictive message of the Bible are the ones who will sit back and let these things happen. I believe that's incorrect. Prescriptive is, descriptive, I'll start with that one, is these things have happened before and they inform us as to the future. There are some people believe that Revelation was actually a description of historical events
Starting point is 01:13:14 and it was essentially a warning of of these, this is what happened to us and this is why you can't do bad things. And the prescriptive is, here's what you must do for this to come about. There are many people, and this has to do with the Red Heifer
Starting point is 01:13:28 and the Temple Mount, everything's going on in Israel, because a lot of these people are prescriptivist. They believe that they must take the actions of Revelation in order for the Messiah to come. And there are Jews who believe this and there are Christians who believe this. I would simply argue that, you know, God helps those who help themselves.
Starting point is 01:13:45 And the people, or you, if your argument is, I will sit back and be a martyr because the book will add another way, nope, you'll get crushed and wiped out. Well, you're talking about an extreme scenario, obviously, but there is something to be... I disagree. I think we're watching it happen. I think we're watching it happen, too. And I also think that there's something to be said for... Given the Quaker perspective, right? I had this... I went to a Quaker school, and one of my friends was Quaker, and... We talked about this, this whole pacifism thing, you know, like if somebody's coming at you, you let them kill you because that's the pacifist way to go. And he turned it around and he said, why is their life more valuable than mine? You know, like, why is anybody's life more valuable than mine if my life is not more valuable than others?
Starting point is 01:14:30 So you participate in the cycle of violence. Well, or, you know, if it's a choice between killing you and someone else, why not just let them kill someone else? Do you know what I mean? like you can twist it into any perspective you want. I think people misunderstand the Crusades. I got to say that, you know. There's also a lot things are a lot worse than death. There are things a lot worse than death.
Starting point is 01:14:50 That they can do to your family that I just couldn't let happen. Yeah. I don't think that. And they do them. I think it would be almost the antithesis of being a good Christian to stand by as a Muslim slaughtered your family. Yeah, I think the right thing to do would be to slaughter the people trying to slaughter your family. Yep.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Well, let's hope it doesn't come to that in our lifetime. But for many people, it happens every day. I'm not saying Islam, I'm saying where evil people seek to do us harm. And what did Jesus said? He said, buy a sword, sell your cloak if you don't have one. And that wasn't a direct statement about the general concept of people should be armed and defend themselves. It was particularly about he was in trouble and they were like, conflict is coming.
Starting point is 01:15:33 And he said, buy a sword and sell your cloak to buy a sword. I don't know the exact quote. I'm not going to pretend to be a biblical scholar. but I've had a lot of conversations with many different denominations of Christian about this. And typically I hear from most of them, I think you're the only one I've ever heard say, sit back and let them slaughter to your family. Well, I had to really do a lot of research on to really understand the- Michael DeCoccus. Is that what he said?
Starting point is 01:15:54 No, he kind of had that thing, though, with the revolving door prisons, the furlough weekend furlough programs. He got slammed for this whole thing where he was like, what if the guy raped your daughter? Wasn't it him? Wasn't that Michael DeCoccus? I'm not sure. I don't remember that reference. Was that like the 86 election or something? Yeah, it was something like that.
Starting point is 01:16:12 He was there in a tank. He looked dumb in a tank. Oh, yeah. Well, I was too. That was the end of the helmets. Yeah. You never wear a helmet when you're running for president. No, you can't do that.
Starting point is 01:16:23 You can do that. You can do the helmet hair, but not the action. There was, uh, one of, one of Ted Cruz's kids was trying to put a hat on his head. And he was like, no, no, no, no, no. Why people were like, whoa, whoa, that's weird. but then someone pointed out, look, ever since Michael Dukakis was wearing that helmet in the tank. I think he actually had the chintz trap. He did.
Starting point is 01:16:43 He did. But that was the thing that Ted Cruz was avoiding. He didn't want to have a picture because you look what happened to Dean, right? Howard Dean. Howard Dean. That ruined his career. That was his whole thing. There he is.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Look at him. He looks ridiculous. Oh, my God. But that's something that's something that pray. Because I want to provide us need to avoid like they have to worry about that kind of stuff. You can't be yourself and run for president. You know, it's going to be wild in like 20, 36 when it's Ocasio-Cortez v. Fuentes. Yeah, that's going to be a thing.
Starting point is 01:17:16 And we're going to be like, well, who are you voting for? And it's like, well, I'm not a big fan of Fuentes, but I can't vote for a communist. And she's on the campaign trail with her surrogates carrying her embryos. Flying communist flags. Yeah. And her surrogates are literal Chinese citizens. Yeah, that's right. And she bought them because they were prisoners.
Starting point is 01:17:31 And, you know, she just paid for that. You. Anyway, yeah, what were we talking about before it got religious, we were talking about being on an island. Oh, you were saying there's nowhere you can go where you wouldn't be subject. You had another point that you didn't finish, though, because I interrupted you. My arguments are basically, they trace back to Tolstoy. He's kind of considered to be the cornerstone for anarcho-Christian thought.
Starting point is 01:17:53 And in his book, The Kingdom of God is within you. He crystallizes what that looks like. But from both a Christian perspective and a negation of the state and rejection. It kind of sounds like something a Muslim wrote to trick Christian. Like, did you know that to be a good Christian, you should not fight me when I kill your family? Really? I'm going to kill your family. And if you want to be a good Christian, let me. Well, okay, it makes sense, I guess. There's a lot of ambiguity in the Bible. But Jesus is directive to turn the other cheek. Somebody tries to take your shirt, give them your coat too. Those are not ambiguous. They're very clear.
Starting point is 01:18:26 I mean, like, almost impossible to misinterpret. I don't know. I don't think Jesus would want you to sit there and watch your babies get murdered. I wonder if he ever said that. know, but I think otherwise we'd all be cool with abortion, too. That was my point. You know? Like, what's the difference? Babies get slaughtered, babies get slaughtered.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Same. Well, I mean, it's essentially a conversation about salvation. There are people that are not saved and there are people that are saved. And, I mean... I don't think I would be more saved. I mean, I got to say, if watching my child be slaughtered is what it takes to get to heaven, then I'm going to hell. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:19:03 If Luke 629 through 30, if someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. Give to everyone who asks you. And if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. But your family doesn't belong to you. You're supposed to protect them. Yes, but the food they need to survive, the water they need to drink as they traverse the desert. And I go to them and say, actually, Luke says, you got to give me your water. And I'm taking it.
Starting point is 01:19:30 And then the man says, but surely my children will die of dehydrated. It'd be like, well, you have to do it. And I've taken it. You can't ask for it back. And he goes, good point. Guess I'll die. We're resorting to extreme scenarios that could be easily applied in daily life. Extreme.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Yes. This happens all the time. I know. But we're talking about worldwide events. I mean, just locally, locally, if one can apply these principles to their daily life and their day-to-day interactions with people in their community and their family, then I think you would see a massive change. I think this message has more to do with like if your neighbor,
Starting point is 01:20:03 came to you and said, I need this, you'd share it with them. I don't think it means that when the barbarians are at the gates, you go, all right, everybody, lay down. They're going to rape and kidnap our women and children, and then the men are all dead. So you love your enemies. What's your take on? It doesn't mean, let them murder your children. You can love them and then cry as you kill them, because they're going to kill your family. So what's your take on, just like self-defense, right? Like, so someone is going to, someone's attacking you or whatever do you defend yourself? The anarcho Christian believes an absolute. non-resistance to evil by force.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Oh, okay. Quaker. Absolute non-resistance to evil by force. What's the difference between an anarcho-Christian and Quaker? I don't know. I'm not familiar with Quakers, quite frankly. So, like, is the idea like Islam wipes all the Christians and then Jesus comes back? There's no scenario where that's going to happen according to my beliefs. I could be mistaken.
Starting point is 01:20:51 What stops Muslims from, or Islam from taking over? People that are not anarcho Christians. Ah, the anarcho Christians sit there and watch it. Basically, they filled him, Carter. I mean, listen, listen. Christianity in general in this country has been very submissive for a hundred plus years. It's been ridiculously submissive. It was submissive in Europe even, what, two or three crusades and like a thousand years of jihad?
Starting point is 01:21:17 Yeah, I mean. And even now, like the torching of Notre Dame, all the church is getting burned down. So I don't think it's anarcho-christians, Phil, and I don't think there's enough secular people because they're, they like Islam. Liberals. It could be the Jews. Who stopped them? The Jews are good at self-defense. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:21:34 They're great at that. It's like Ukraine, basically. They're basically preparing for war against Islamic invaders and people who, you know, use tactics that are kind of unknown to us here in the West. I mean, they're operating actively in this kind of like guerrilla warfare. Obviously, it's wound down. But over the last few years, they have way more experience than we do in this kind of like tight-knit urban environment, fighting people who have no problems, killing.
Starting point is 01:22:01 killing people There's like Using them as There's a Hold on Hold on Hold on There's a couple
Starting point is 01:22:06 Million GWAT vets That has That spent You know The better part Of the last 20 years Fighting whether it be in Iraq
Starting point is 01:22:14 or Afghanistan So I don't disagree With you about There's plenty of You know Jews that have Have been fighting Whether it be
Starting point is 01:22:23 Hamas or Hezboa or what have you But like The idea that there's not a lot of Americans We've got We've got an entire We've got an entire
Starting point is 01:22:30 generation of young men, you know, that grew up, you know, in combat. There are more people in America that have experienced combat now between, you know, even though the boomers are old, the Vietnam vets, and Gulf War I and then Iraq and Afghanistan, like, there are a lot of combat vets in the United States. So you have a good point. I should have specified that this is just kind of like the latest iteration. Like they are the, the newest to do it. Sure. And they are defending Christendom in a lot of ways. I think so.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Yeah. I mean, I don't know that they're... I don't know, maybe they're doing it like... Indirectly. Yeah, exactly. Indirectly, yeah, because I don't think that they're thinking, you know... I don't think that's the primary goal. St. Michael, you know?
Starting point is 01:23:17 They're not praying to St. Michael before they go into, you know, go into the tunnels in Gaza. But, yeah, I mean, I guess that does, you know, the... But there's probably... If you're making the argument that... There's probably Christians in the IDF. Yeah, I mean, I imagine... I imagine that there are fewer.
Starting point is 01:23:37 But, you know, if you're making the argument, look, it's better for the Israelis to control Jerusalem than for, you know, Hamas to control Jerusalem. You know, when it comes to Christians, at least, it would be better for, you know, Israelis to control Jerusalem than Hamas. I think that that is probably pretty obvious. The DSA has... The DSA's plan is to make the whole...
Starting point is 01:23:59 whole thing Palestine with Jerusalem. Their plan is to die because at the center and the Muslims are just going to kill them. I mean, you know, Hamas leaders have said that they're just these useful idiots. All you have to do is look at the Iranian revolution. You're not saying it's going to be a free secular state with equal rights for all where everybody can be gay and trans openly and yeah. And Muslim. You know, something tells me that's not going to be the reality. I think I've said this before and this is kind of like a meme for a while, but conservatives need to just fully. embrace the Islam thing for a while. Yeah, I disagree entirely.
Starting point is 01:24:34 No, because you go to all the woke people and then when they're like, you know, we defend Islam, you'd be like, yes. And then you bring Islamic protesters to like pride events. Right. And then they're going to be like, maybe we don't like this. I mean, in terms of like the, from what I understand, which is of course limited and based on one of our writers who used to write for us at human events, Madeline Martin,
Starting point is 01:24:58 may she rest in peace. But she, was working on a piece that she ran and it was about how there are different stages of jihad and one of the first stages is about how if you are Muslims and you are minorities in the culture where you are, you know, make friends with the, for lack of a better word, Gentiles don't bring them into your heart. And it's a slow takeover of the society. Let me ask for the Christians in the room. Obviously, you don't agree with the general, like, what's the right? Like, spiritual overarching belief system. So it's, you know, like you believe in a different God. Of the political system that is Sharia Islamic law, what don't you like about it? I don't like the treatment
Starting point is 01:25:43 of women, the eradication of education for women specifically. I don't like the notion of jihad or the thing where you, you know, Taqia? What? To Kia? When you're allowed to lie to... Yeah, I don't like that. That's part of the whole jihad thing, yeah. I don't like the forcing people to convert or making them pay a tax. Oh, yeah, what's that?
Starting point is 01:26:05 Jizia. Jizia. Yeah. There's a lot of different... What about... What about? You're a Christian, yeah? I'm not a Christian. Oh, not a Christian.
Starting point is 01:26:11 I'm like an atheist. Yeah. Oh, wow. My dad's Jewish, my mom's Christian. You're atheist. Yeah. Okay, so you're wrong. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:26:19 I know what we might be. No. You all know way more about Sharia law than I do. everything that you said I agree with, and it's a theocracy, which I'm opposed to for obvious reasons. Yeah. Also, genital mutilation. That's a bad one. And everything Libby said, also, it's an authoritarian.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Wait, hold on a minute. They don't, hold, wait, I'm just, it's kind of weird, right? Islam, they cut up girls. And the Jews cut up boys. Yeah. What's going on? These are questions I'm asking myself. Was that, was that like, is that the time of the,
Starting point is 01:26:53 conflict started. The Muslims came in and they're like, what are you doing a little boy? And they're like, what are you doing to those girls? And they're like, fighting each other. I was under the impression that that didn't happen. Like in the Middle East, they don't do that, but they do that kind of in Africa. I think it's like in the Sahel. It's pretty big. But also Michigan. Wow. Yeah, Michigan, Africa. There's been some cases about that. Yeah. There's been some cases where the judge has decided, I believe in Michigan. Might have been Minnesota. Also honor killings. Honor killings. Totally bad.
Starting point is 01:27:23 I don't like the thing where if someone shows a cartoon of Muhammad, you torch their entire office. So, like, in Saudi Arabia, they're doing these things? I don't know. I think Saudi Arabia is a lot of square where they go in. In Saudi Arabia, women are allowed to drive now, so that's new. That's been for a few years, though. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:40 Still relatively new. Yeah, but in Saudi Arabia, you can take, like, a wad of a stack of $100 bills and put it just outside. On your lampo? No, on the ground, and no one will touch it. That's because they cut hands off. It's Hamarabi. It's the whole Hamarabi thing.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Eye for an eye. Well, Sharia would destroy the economy. It would destroy capitalism in the West because our whole economic system is ultimately built upon interest. And so if you can't loan money or borrow money, we're kind of screwed. How do they do it over there? Oil. Yeah, I mean, they kind of, their economies are. Instead of little silver pellets.
Starting point is 01:28:16 If you look at the Islamic countries that are sitting on oil, those are the ones that are advanced and blah, blah, blah. blah. You look at Afghanistan, you look at the Islamic countries in Africa that don't have oil. They're all basket cases. Yeah, it's all just because of oil. Well, and Yemen is a disaster, all those places. Yeah, that has, I think that has a lot to do with all the warring between them and Saudi Arabia. It has a lot to do with, like, the massive death. Yeah. Just the creation of a population that's like mostly under 30. Never going to do well.
Starting point is 01:28:47 No. But, but, yeah, it's not about, it's not that they have good economies or whatever. they're sitting on liquid gold. You know, I'll throw this out there to the chatters, if you want to throw in some super chats. I'm genuinely asking, like, of the political system, throw in your concerns and criticisms of it. The reason I bring that up is because the thing they promote, that you'll see a lot of Muslims
Starting point is 01:29:09 promote about Sharia law, are the things that conservatives do like. Like, no crime is like the easy example. So I'm interested in the finer arguments of why don't they like it. I wonder would conservatives like, you know, chopping off hands for stealing. Well, my whole thing is, like, in the United States, our ethos is that we trade safety for liberty. And so we're willing to accept a slightly less safe society in, let's say the case of gun rights. So, like, are we willing to go all the way and make our society super safe, but by enforcing these, like, extremely harsh consequences on it? I don't think our
Starting point is 01:29:41 society is that way. I think the fact that every year, the surveillance state expands and new laws are put in the books, we give up, we give up our liberty every single day. And by I demand. People are screaming and demanding it. Keep giving more of it up. Yeah. We give it up for convenience generally. Like the people that have, have, you know,
Starting point is 01:30:02 It's not a conscious choice, right? Well, I mean, it probably not. Because wouldn't all of the, like, they're obviously the cameras and stuff like that. That's something that's bad. But we had someone that was in here yesterday arguing for them saying, look, you can find missing kids. You can find people that have actually committed crimes faster,
Starting point is 01:30:19 et cetera. And while he was making good points, I still don't, they're, I am not convinced by the argument for fly cameras, but at the same time, I'm, you know, walking around with a microphone and a camera that could be turned on at any time and I would have no idea all that, you know, someone just has to know how to actually access it. And most of us do. The vast majority, I think 95% of Americans have a smartphone nowadays, right? So the idea that, that Americans are actually really concerned about their privacy or they're really concerned about, about, you know, being anonymous and stuff like that, they're not. And you can tell they're not because they have these tools. You can opt out if you want to, right? You can say, I don't need a cell phone or I don't go out of the house with a cell phone. You know, you can't, I think it's probably pretty hard to find landlines now.
Starting point is 01:31:09 But like, you could have a cell phone and just just leave it at home. And when you go out and leave, you can have an old vehicle that doesn't have computer chips in it. Now, obviously this is not an easy thing. You can print out your Map Quest because you can't even buy a map at the gas. station anymore. Yeah, I mean, so it is possible. My mom hoards her maps. Good for her. I know. It's cute. But, you know, the idea that people are strongly against these things, they're against them when they first hear about them. When the Xbox 360 first came out, it was always connected to the internet. With that camera. And I was like, I'm not buying that. I'm never blah, blah, blah, blah. Three years later,
Starting point is 01:31:47 I was like, all right, whatever, you know, because I had by that time I had an iPhone. And I was like, well, you know, whatever, it's fine, you know. It becomes a situation where the convenience outweighs the intrusion. And Gen Z and Gen Alpha don't have the same concept of privacy that someone my age does, right? I'm 51. And so, like, the idea of privacy when I was a kid, I would get on my bike and leave. Nobody knew where I was. That was good stuff.
Starting point is 01:32:17 Yeah. It was like literally like, there was no tracking system. none of that stuff. The cameras weren't everywhere. So like I understand. In college we had a hall phone. What? In college we had a hall phone. Oh yeah. Like a phone down the hall with no answering machine. I remember what pay phones were like, you know. In fact, I think when I started touring, pay phones still existed. My first apartment, our phone was the pay phone outside. But Gen Z and Jen Z. Like in Spider-Man. I don't have. I mean, I don't know a three nine-11 world. I've never used the pay phone in my life. My girlfriend's... You never used to pay phone?
Starting point is 01:32:52 Yeah. So back in the day, there was this trick. It was called 5-1-1-1-1. You guys know this one? Yeah. If you dialed 5-1-1 and then the phone number, it would click and then click. If you hung up, the phone would ring.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Oh. And so we just put the phone down and then walk away, and then the phone would ring, and some guy would like, hello, there's like nothing there. It's like the most... Like the sopranos. It's like the stupidest prank imaginable
Starting point is 01:33:14 because it literally did nothing, and we didn't even know what it was or why it was. I used to do the thing where I'd call my family, collect and they would pick up the phone. And the message would like, it would say, say your name after the beef and it would be like, this is Liby I'll be home at Tel. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:29 You went 100 collect and it would be like, would you like to receive a collect call from? I'm at the park, I need to ride home, bye. You know, and P, like, you know, Gen Z and Gen Alpha, like, it's normal to have the location service on for you and all your friends. So you can, I know people that are just like,
Starting point is 01:33:48 oh, like they look at their phone and they're like, Where is this person? My brother has that. And actually, my brother and I have, we have shared location. And I can see. No, no, no. Let me tell you a story. Let me tell you a story.
Starting point is 01:33:59 I can see where my parents are and they are elderly. Always turn on location on your device, shared location. Because when we were in Vegas, I think it was Brandon. He, I think he forgot, he left his phone at a machine or something and someone found it. And so then he's like, he went to go look for it. It was gone. But our security guy was like, we have shared location on. So he turned on it.
Starting point is 01:34:20 his phone and an arrow points in the direction of his phone and then we walked up and there was a door and it stops and we're like it's in this room and it was a security room the security guys picked it up and put in the room and then they're like yeah here you go that's why shared location's amazing yeah how how old are you by the way 21 man yeah i don't share my location with anyone no no i'm just saying it sucks because when like when i was a kid it sucks for you missed the golden age i know like my parents and like the gen x people like the and the older people were like nobody was talking about the 80s were technologically better. They were like, oh, cool new thing, cool new thing.
Starting point is 01:34:52 The new video game counts so amazing. Now it's the future and everyone's like, the 90s were so good. So like in the 90s, everybody was excited for new stuff. And then in 2000s, people were like, yeah, it's okay. Now everybody wants to go back to the 90s. Mostly once we got laptops and I was good. Like all I wanted when I was a kid, like my mom always had this collection of cigar boxes. And me and my friend Julia would turn them into like fake laptops because it was before
Starting point is 01:35:15 laptops and we'd pretend we were on a spaceship. we'd like put tinfoil in and we'd make like little levers and everything. And so all I ever really wanted was a laptop. And so then once I got a laptop in 1993, I got an ACER anywhere computer. My dad bought it for me, or 94, whenever I got it. Who knows? It was awesome. And then I was happy.
Starting point is 01:35:36 And I was very happy. Yeah, it was good. Awesome. 2008 is when it all fell apart. That was the ubiquity of internet. Yeah, internet and the housing bubble. It was, 2008 was when everybody had the internet in their pocket. So before 2008.
Starting point is 01:35:52 I didn't get mine until 2000. It was, it was 07, the iPhone comes out, and it was pretty crummy. Like it worked, and you could go on Facebook. And I remember being on a train in Chicago. I was on an L. And my friend had just gotten one, like the very first iPhone. And they were like, dude, look, Facebook. And they were scrolling.
Starting point is 01:36:05 And I was like, wow, that's crazy. Because it used to be, before this, I had a singular rocker. I don't know if you guys what the rocker is. It had speakers in it. It was a candy bar phone. And you could send texts. I had A. All instant message around there.
Starting point is 01:36:20 And it was 10 cents per message. So I remember we wrecked up an $8,000 bill once. Ah. Well, because it told us had unlimited messages in our plan. It was always a lie. But then they said, no, no, because AIM doesn't count as messages. And we were like, what? And it was a really weird web app.
Starting point is 01:36:34 But for the most part, you couldn't really stop, sit down, load the app. And then like, you didn't do it. So what would happen is I'd go out. I had a moped. and I'd go ride to my friend's house and then I'd be like knocking the door, not there, eh, try calling him where are you at, nah.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Was this in New York? No, Chicago. And there's no internet. So you were in like a newspaper. So I'd wake up, I'd go online, check my email, see what's going on, then I'd go outside and I'd go do stuff all day. Having no idea what's happening in the world.
Starting point is 01:37:05 None's the wiser, no anxiety. Then you'd get home, you check the internet, see your messages, talk to people, and go to bed. Sometimes you'd get home and then you'd pull up AOL as a messenger and somebody'd be a lot, Like, I got five messages from a friend. They'd be like, yo, party, party, party, party.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Where are you at? And I'd be like, oh, man, am I too late? And then I'd message him back and I'll be like, well, I'm going to show up anyway. And then you make it. Today, everything, everywhere, all at once, all the time. I don't know. I still miss parties. Like, just yesterday, I checked my signal and I'd been invited to something.
Starting point is 01:37:31 And I was like, oh, that was two weeks ago. I just had an old people. Parties are whack. I don't want to go to an old person party. I don't even know what it was. Let me tell you some. We have parties and parties for us. It's like, oh, we're going to do a big event.
Starting point is 01:37:45 You should come. And it's like people in suits and there's a bar and there's like hors d'oeuvres. And everyone just talks. And the music's really loud and you can't really talk. Parties when you're like 20, it's like you walk into someone's house and there's someone doing a keg stand and everyone's just jumping in the floors moving up and down with you. And you're just pumping kegger into your red cup playing Flip, Flip, Philadelphia. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:08 See, that's a fun party. I used to throw some killer parties. Yeah. Those are good. You need a party. You need a party with us. We only hang out with old people. Everybody.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Everybody's retired, old. We go to a party. We're playing bingo and playing trivia. It's the best. I'm telling you. I'm a big proponent of that. I'm saying you go to parties in my 20s
Starting point is 01:38:27 is you walk in. Everybody's jumping to like a song the whole floor. It was going to break. And then there's like, you know, in my day, everyone in Chicago, so everyone's singing Alkaline Trio, every song.
Starting point is 01:38:38 You walk in, run front door, and then all of a sudden you'll hear like goodbye forever come on. And then all the, All of a sudden, everyone in the party is screaming and singing, they're holding beers, everyone's getting drunk. Now I go to a party and there's like a guy in a suit and he's got like his wife and she's well-dressed and they're like a guy walks by and he's got little like deep fried little rice paddies. A little tuna tartar.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Why you knock in the past hors d'oeuvres? Those are great. They're delicious. I'm just saying it's different. No, I mean, when I used to go to like the art openings or whatever, there'd be past hors d'oeurves, I would like go to the art openings to eat free dinner. You know, I'd be like, I got to be honest though, like at the same time. Stand by the kitchen. The reality is there was a time and a place for those kinds of parties. I'm more like everything I do has a purpose, whereas back then it didn't. So it didn't matter if you went to one of those parties.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Like so when I'm 22, I'm like, I'm going to go to a party and just, you know, slamming a bunch of beer and then party sing and then tomorrow, who knows? Today it's like, nah, we're filming a vlog tomorrow. So I've got my gear. It's set up. Like I got stuff to do that I want to do. In hindsight, if I had this mentality when I was 20, I'd probably be a billionaire, you know? I used to, I had that mindset, and I'm not a billionaire. And I don't think I'm ever going to be a billionaire.
Starting point is 01:39:46 But like, I would go to parties. No, no, no. I would stay up all night. And then I would make it to work on time. But that's what I'm saying right now is the reason why I don't go to those parties is because I'm like, doing other stuff. What am I going to do tomorrow that adds another brick to another layer? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:39:59 Yeah, yeah. Back then it was like, yeah, the party's the party, man, you know? And then tomorrow will wake up, we'll figure it out. Sure. Today it's like, no, no, I got my plan set up for the next several months. Like, we have a calendar of all the shows we're doing. Nice. I'm not going to go to a party.
Starting point is 01:40:10 I get invited to a party on the weekend. And I'm like, are you nuts? Sunday I'm waking up. And I'm going to have breakfast. And that's my day to relax to recharge for the week because I have stuff to do. Back then it was like, if I go to a party, I'll just call in sick. I never would call in sick after party. I would always make sure that I was ready for the morning.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Well, I worked at Jamba Juice. Take full advantage of your 20s. I'll tell you. I'm trying. My advice to be as arrogant as you can, but professionally. I'll tell you a story. What do you say that? What's it?
Starting point is 01:40:36 Why do you say that? Man, the 20-year-olds I mean. meet in this industry, I am, I am, I don't want to say unimpressed, but I'm worried. Well, I'm worried if you're a 20 year old in this industry, no offense. Well, yeah, maybe I'll tell you a couple stories. So I worked at a jamba juice. And I also play music. And so I think I was 20 going on 21 when I lived in Lakeview. So I make smoothies all day. And I go to my bass and I'm like, hey, in two weeks I'm playing a show at the Ashbury. I didn't actually say the Ashbury, but it's for everybody who's listening.
Starting point is 01:41:10 That's where I was playing the show. I was like, in two weeks I'm playing a show on Saturday. So I'm not going to be able to work Saturday. I can work the morning, but then I got to leave because I got to be there by six. And so I'm going to do the show is until like 3 a.m. So I'm out. And she's like, okay, no problem. When they put the schedule for that week, I went and checked and it had me opening on
Starting point is 01:41:30 Sunday. That means I got to get there at 5 a.m. And so I immediately, like, the manager wasn't in when I get there. And I'm like, you know, what? I already said I can't do this. So then, you know, this is when I was,
Starting point is 01:41:42 yeah, I was like 20. So then when I finally, a couple days later, we're on the same shift. And I was like, hey, you scheduled me for Sunday morning.
Starting point is 01:41:48 I told you I was playing a show until like three hours I'm, I can't do it. And she goes, well, you're scheduled, so you have to come. And I said,
Starting point is 01:41:55 I don't think you understand. I told you, I cannot come. Okay? I won't be here. And she's like, you're scheduled to be here. And if you don't want this job,
Starting point is 01:42:03 let me know. I was like, okay. I took my apron. life what I'm planning is more important than what you're trying to do to me. I appreciate everything. Have a nice day and I walked out. And I quit on the spot.
Starting point is 01:42:14 And that was a Wednesday. I was like, later. I didn't have a job. I quit on the spot one time too. I was interning for this theater company and I was doing all this work. And then they had me, I gave notice and then they had me trained someone who was getting paid. And I was just interning. I wasn't getting paid.
Starting point is 01:42:28 And I realized they were getting paid. And I was like, oh, okay. So at the lunch break, I dropped a hit an acid and walked out. That's how we. we do it. That's how we roll. I guess what I mean about the arrogance is, so I worked at Vice in 2013, and I was then 20, I was 26 going on 27, I think. Actually, no, I think I started when I was 27. I would have been 27. I don't know, actually, no, I think so. And I had no problem walking up to any of the executives. Like, it's just crazy to me. At the time, there were people that, I remember
Starting point is 01:43:01 this one dude was like, I got this really great idea I want to do, but like, I don't know how to do it. And I was like, why don't she just ask Shane? And he's like, what? Shane was a CEO. And I'm like, there's like 300 people in this building, bro. Shane walks through every single day. Just walk up to him. Just tell him you want to do this project.
Starting point is 01:43:17 And he's like, oh, I can't do that. I was like, huh? Did you read that article from Mitchell Jones? It's amazing. He nailed it completely. Everything he said was, it's like, I've never seen a better article outlining exactly how things went down and why they went down. That dude.
Starting point is 01:43:29 He knows it all. I read that. And I was like, so he was an intern when I got hired. and then he stayed after I had left. So he had been there before me as an intern and he was there after me as a staffer. And this is an article about advice. I tweeted about it.
Starting point is 01:43:43 And he just perfectly nailed it. This is really important. What he wrote. Joe Rogan is a bro. Barstool, their bros. Outkick their bros. And Vice, their bros. And Shane Smith was the king of the space.
Starting point is 01:43:59 And they got really big. And when the corporate interests came, they said, you have to be woke. and it wasn't about him going woke, because what Mitchell said, it's about him wanting to please people and be what the media wanted him to be. He was jealous of Teen Vogue. So he changed chasing after this, and he smashed the multi-billion dollar brand in desperation to look good to corporate interests who didn't understand the space. And Mitchell said, and Joe Rogan and Portnoy and Travis, they stayed true and sold and cashed out. But anyway, my point is, when I worked advice,
Starting point is 01:44:33 I'd walk into the boss's office, sit down, put my feet up and be like, what's going on? Like, what you're working on? And who am I? Right. But all these other people at the company were like terrified to talk to the bosses. So I'm like, young people got to be more arrogant. I mean, maybe you don't. Maybe it's more confidence than arrogance. I think you don't want to be unprofessionally arrogant, but more than confidence, more than confidence.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Because the thing is, uh, all. Although confidence does sound often like the more professional. Like it sounds like the professional of arrogance. You got to be a little, if you go up to one of the bosses and you tell him he's a dumb POS, and you know, if I was in charge of this company, we'd have doubled our private. You'd think, yeah, he's going to be like, you can leave. But if you go to the boss and say, listen, with all due respect, I know what I'm talking about, okay? Right.
Starting point is 01:45:28 I know you know your space. You've built something tremendous. what I'm doing is going to make millions of dollars. Now, you can be involved in my project. Then they're going to be like, all right, all right, tell me what you got going on. Confident is, hey, I want to make this pitch to you. I know it's going to work.
Starting point is 01:45:41 They're going to be like, yeah, yeah, listen, buddy, I hear this all the time. Errogant is where you're getting their attention, just as long as you're not condescending or insultingly arrogant. I'm understood. But I say this. When I worked advice, everything we're doing right here, I pitch to the executives. Well, and of course, you have to remember, too, that this is something one of my friends in grad school told me, the thing you're doing is better than 95% of the other crap.
Starting point is 01:46:01 out there. Yeah. So just go with it. It's better. I was at, I was at Vice, and I explained exactly this show to them. And they said, yeah, I mean, that'd be great. And then they didn't want to do it. And I said, you know, whatever. And then when I quit,
Starting point is 01:46:17 everybody was shocked, because I quit mid-2014 when Vice was at their peak. And everybody in my age was like, are you insane? You were a correspondent for Vice. And I was like, yeah. I have I have numerous vice stocks with millions of views. At the time, this was the dream of every millennial.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Sure. I was getting emails from people being like, I want to work with you. How do I do it? I did the Kim.com thing. It got like five million views overnight. And people are like, man, it's so cool. And then I quit. And then people asked me why.
Starting point is 01:46:47 And I said, well, I hired Vice to do a job for me in exchange for my value and labor. And they didn't do the job. So I fired them. And the mentality of the millennial was like, but you worked for them. No, I went to the executives before I started there and said, here's what I want. And in exchange for what I want, I will give you something in return. And then when they didn't deliver within three months, I had a meeting with the boss. And I said, performance review.
Starting point is 01:47:13 I said, listen, I have been holding up my end of the bargain. Y'all haven't been holding up your end of the bargain. I expect these things. And I think I have delivered on my end. And so they said, okay, okay, give me more money. So we're in a sign of good faith. We're going to give you a raise. go talk to the producer, we're going to get these things done.
Starting point is 01:47:31 Then we had some movement, and it was like half-assed. Another meeting. We're sorry. Bring in Jim, we'll get it done. And then finally, the third instance, I just said, you're fired. And then I get a call from one of the bosses, and he's like, what do you mean you quit? And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I appreciate everything you guys did for me. It's not working out, so, you know, I'll be moving on.
Starting point is 01:47:51 And then he was like, no, no, no, you don't quit. You don't quit. And I was like, no, I quit and I actually cashed the check already. so I'm working for fusion. And then he was like, no, this isn't over. And I said, it's over, brother. Thank you. Have a nice day.
Starting point is 01:48:05 He's like, I'm going to call you back, and then I never did. Yep, you got to go out there and you got to know what you're doing, man. Or pretend that you do. You can also fake it. Well, faking is a lot of it for the most part. Yeah. But, you know, the thing is, I actually had the inverse of that in that there were people who fake it until they make it. My thing was that I actually was wrong a lot, but I was just so damn sure of myself.
Starting point is 01:48:27 The truth is, this show that we have, everything that we did, I pitched directly to the executives of Vice and to Fusion, and they did not do it. And I just think, like, I'm so grateful that they had such a myopic view of the media space because if Shane or Eddie or whoever advice was like, you know what, Tim, we're going to do your podcasting idea.
Starting point is 01:48:49 I wouldn't own this company. I would be making, I'd probably be living in a two-bedroom bungalow with a very, very small net worth, and they'd be making bank off of my ideas and all the work that I did. But you know, at the time, I was more than happy. I was like, let's make some cool stuff happen. And then they told me no.
Starting point is 01:49:05 And then I went to Fusion, and Fusion was like, no. And then I was like, fine. I'll do it myself. And I, you know, put on the podcasting gauntlet, collected all the podcast stones. You know, and then here we are. Managed to not electrocute any dogs? Well, actually, there was this one time where,
Starting point is 01:49:24 no, no, no. It was cats. It was cats. Yeah, we would juggle cats. All right, everybody, we're going to head over to the uncensored portion of the show in 10 minutes. So get those chats and rumble rants. We're going to grab your Rumble Rans and Super Chats right now. Before we do, we got another sponsor.
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Starting point is 01:51:05 Let's see what you guys want to say. G.I. Jeep says, happy NFA day. It is a glorious day. Big day. I got two silencers on the way to my... You got what? Two cans, two suppressors.
Starting point is 01:51:19 The maximum silencer was the first. patented suppressor was called the Maxim Silencer. But yeah, I've got two cans heading to my local FFL to fill out the 4473 and nothing else. AK Storm says what started all this was Sophie Cunningham saying men shouldn't play women's sports. I wonder what would happen if she thanks the NBA for doing just that. That's the play. If like this is the double-edged sword, if they keep Royce White and Dennis Cantor out, then everyone's going to be like, we won.
Starting point is 01:51:52 But I got to be honest, I think the progressives are going to avoid this issue. Yep. The, the, the, uh, Democratic PAC did an analysis on, uh, Trump's they, they them add and found a three to five point voter swing. And, uh, I think Glad found a drop in support for trans issues by like 8%. Oh, yeah. And they found a huge drop in support in Hollywood. In fact, there were no children's shows with trans or LGBTQ thing, uh, themes last. year. How horrible. I know. They were super disappointed and I was I was glad just like glad wasn't.
Starting point is 01:52:30 General 45 cases. I'm sorry the views are down. So I'll do what I can to help you guys out in addition to the Discord, love the show. Well, I will just say this. It's not a bad thing. It's every four years. Benny Johnson made a great point. He's like, so the New York Times and a bunch of outlets copied the story where they're trying to smear all the people in the space like, look how down their views are. And it's like, he said, that's like saying football, soccer viewership is down following the World Cup. Like we had a presidential election. Everybody had massive views. Now we're moving into the like off cycle and views go down.
Starting point is 01:53:04 Where our viewership right now is comparable to where it was in 2022. So it's just kind of like, this is what happens. However, overall our viewership is up. So Tim Kest-IRL, of course, its viewership is down from where it was a year ago. It's comparable to where it was four years ago in the off cycle, which, I would argue is a little bad because there's always supposed to be a little bit of growth. But I do think Trump having a trifecta coming out of the COVID era, we're going to see a little bit of a dip here. The expectation is that with a billion dollars being pumped into the midterm elections coming up very soon, you're going to see the algorithms start blasting off a lot of this content.
Starting point is 01:53:36 What I will say is when when live stream viewership goes down, we don't just go, oh, no, we've like we've planned for this and reprioritized a bunch of things. So our viewership across the board has been massive. We've got clips on Facebook now with millions of views. So that's just our Facebook's been getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And people might say, yeah, but Facebook is, well, look, man, it is what it is. The views are there. The demographics are largely similar. They skewled only a little bit older.
Starting point is 01:54:02 So it's like late 30s on Facebook where YouTube is low 30s, early 30s. But we're making more, more money across the board. Facebook just launched this new creator program where if you have at least a million followers, they guarantee you 3K a month just because free money. Yeah, it's called like the creator fast. track program or something. And then X just announced that they're doing the new creator program starting in September, which I fully expect, you heard it here. X creators are probably going to get massive viewership and make insane money. I'm going to say this. Actually, I should just say it straight
Starting point is 01:54:36 to Elon. You're only going to make money on X if you produce original content, articles, videos. If you're just reposting someone else's content, you don't get money out that anymore. So this was like, you know, Nikita was beer, yeah, yeah. Beer. Yeah. he was removing all these accounts for doing it. They formalized it now. A lot of accounts will just quote tweet, generate a lot of engagement, and then they're like, that's not enough. You've got to do a little bit more than that.
Starting point is 01:55:01 If they algorithmically prioritize video, then, like, the amount of, like, so what's going to happen is all of the ad revenue for acts is being consolidated into a very small group because very few people make original content. The reposts are eliminated from that. That concentration of ad revenue is going to be spread out amongst those producing. and there's very few who do, and we're one of the biggest ones. We post a lot of my, all of the clips from Timcast are posted on X like three or four times a day. And then this show is live on X.
Starting point is 01:55:30 If they algorithmically prioritize that, two things happen. Monetary consolidation. So that means the money we would normally get is going to be 10x because fewer people get it. And with an algorithm that push, our viewership is going to go way up. And then our share of the money is going to be even greater. The best thing X can do right now, I think, is to promote original content. What is killing the platform, and they've already noticed this, is all the regurgitated garbage content. I pointed this out earlier in this year.
Starting point is 01:55:57 All these conservatives turn into aggregation channels. There are individuals. You know what? I'm just going to say this with all due respect, but Brandon Strach, his Twitter account turned into like an editor just reposting clips from the news. And it was like a clip every 10 minutes of just some random news thing. That is boring. And I'm uninterested in that.
Starting point is 01:56:17 Well, not only are they just aggregating, but a lot of times it's just. some guy in his mom's basement in Pakistan who's just doing this. Not even an American. There's no original commentary whatsoever. And this is another component of the new thing is that you have to be producing content for the region you're in or something that effect. Did they make that change?
Starting point is 01:56:34 Because I thought they walked that back. The new creator change? I already signed up for it. No, not the creator change. The change about original. That's in the new terms of service for starting September 10th, I think it is. Okay. So in the app, actually, let me pull this up.
Starting point is 01:56:50 I got a notification. So what do you go? You go to Creator Studio, and it says, original content rewards coming soon. Let me see what it says. Subscribe to premium, be at least 18, have at least 500 verified followers, have at least 500,000 verified home timeline impressions
Starting point is 01:57:06 in the last 90 days, not including replies. Interesting. And it says check back later. Okay, here we go. Let's see, it's in here. The rules. Impressions from the same account created more
Starting point is 01:57:20 than once the following are excluded. Paid promoted, artificial, fraudulent. Let's see. The following content types are not considered original. Copied content, minimally modified content. Aggregated content. Cross-platform reposts. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:57:39 Oh, no, no. Okay, but it's other than the original creator. Interesting. Let's see. It says somewhere that you have to be based in a country where the original content rewards program is available. Okay, so maybe, maybe you were right. Maybe I'm wrong.
Starting point is 01:57:52 I thought, I got to read through it, I guess I'm pretty sure it said something about the content you produce, the revenue generator is based on the region that you're in, which would make sense because otherwise an Indian guy would be, they'd be selling ads and an India guy's content to Indians. That makes no sense. Right. So. But if he's producing content on American politics in an Indian language, then I suppose it'd be fine. If the ads are for Indian people in Indian.
Starting point is 01:58:13 Yes, of course. Yeah, in an Indian language, right, yeah. Yeah, the issue is if you're following, if you have a million followers in, you know, Pakistan, in? Why would, why would, you know, an American company want to run those ads? All right. Let's see. Same old man says, we need to reintroduce the McCarron Walters Act. Islam was banned from the USA in 1952 because it was a threat to the Constitution. We need to just ban Islam and Islamists from the United States. What happened? Was it challenging?
Starting point is 01:58:40 No, communism was... 1964 happened. Oh, yep. Yeah. There you go. Civil rights act. Dels Wood says, the verse you're looking for, Tim, is Luke, 22, 33. look it up. No way I let my family die and just watch. That's not Christian. That's cowardice. Well, you don't have to be mean about it. Tiffinil says the instruction about your swords. But now if you have a purse, take it and also a bag. And if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. The disciples said, interesting.
Starting point is 01:59:10 All right. What does this one say? Mason says the Jews actively collaborated with Muslim invaders into Europe pre-crucades. Counting on them to save Christians is folly. Well, the Muslims in the Middle East, least teamed up with Hitler and said that promised Hitler that they would finish the job. Yeah. This guy probably thinks that it was a reason mind comps all over Gaza. Yeah. Is it really? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:32 Everywhere. Find it in schools. Arthur Palmer says turning the other cheek is about forcing the Roman to disrespect you when he strikes you. If someone is going to hit you, make them mean it. I've heard that before too that there's all these different interpretations. The interpretation was that turning other cheek was basically to insults. them to as if to say that you this means nothing to me that you are pathetic you know kind of like how tipping is offensive in certain Asian cultures like giving them money as seen as like an insult
Starting point is 02:00:02 but I'm not saying I believe it just all right let's grab a couple more here we got uh Carl Mango is that what it says magno carlo magno Tim invites Sam Shammoon or David Wood on to talk about Islam and Sharia law preferably not at the same time since they're having a beef right now I don't really do it at the same time. That's awesome. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, I nominate Chris for a culture war religion show.
Starting point is 02:00:30 Okay. We'll get Michael Malice. You know what we'll do. We'll get a Christian, an archa Christian, an anarchist. Yeah, I love it. And then we'll go at it. All right, let's grab one more here. Let's see.
Starting point is 02:00:43 Clank, clank, plank, I'm a tank, says, Justice Spares is so scared she would wear a hijab if Islam got to 15% of the population. Yikes. You know, I don't know. I completely disagree. My friends, smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life. We're going to the uncensored portion of the show to talk about what Phil wanted to talk about.
Starting point is 02:00:59 It would be interesting. So you can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Sir, do you want to shout anything out? Yeah, absolutely. I'm on Instagram at Max Zoltan 2Ns, and I'm on X at Max Zoltan Garley. Thanks so much. It's my turn. I would really love to shout out our sponsor for the pod millennial,
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