Timcast IRL - WOKE IS BACK, Target Bans Costume For Offending Black People w/ Naomi Epps

Episode Date: August 26, 2026

On this episode Tim & the crew are joined by Naomi Epps to discuss Target apologizing & pulling a "racist" costume after backlash Tim saying the economy is not in a good place Democrats pushing for l...ockdowns that destroyed small businesses Democrats Party in Civil War over Hasan Piker Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest:  Naomi Epps @NaomiEppsBest (X)  

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Starting point is 00:00:03 So Target pulled a costume of a clown on Halloween, for Halloween. It's a clown that they say looks like a blackface because it looks like the kids dressed like, you know, a minstrel show character or something like this. Personally, I think it's silly and I think they're trying to. It's like it's eight years ago all over again. This is what I say, cancel culture is coming back. Target now bending to the whims of the, of the, you know, the BLM activism type complaints over what is. a clown costume because the kid modeling the clown costume happened to have been black. And they're trying to pull old pictures to make it seem justified, whatever.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Well, we also had this golf company. They had to get rid of their commercial. They delete their commercial because it was weird. He just, the co-founder, I guess, just shoves a woman of the ground and then growls at her not to touch his clubs. I don't know what the point of that commercial was, but it was kind of funny. So that's, we'll talk about that. We do have a bunch of news in politics.
Starting point is 00:01:00 we had the head of the CIA flew over to Russia to me with Vladimir Putin. Everyone's wondering about it. I'd lead with that normally. It's big news, but we just don't know anything about it. We could certainly speculate. It is big. But, you know, we'll have fun talking about some of the cultural stuff today. So we got that.
Starting point is 00:01:17 And then news, once again, in the midterms, we'll be talking about what's going out the latest polling. And look, they're coming after Hassan Piker like crazy now. Everybody's got to denounce them. More and more Democrats are coming out saying they denounce him. and he's got some quotes that I'm not going to say at the top of the show that kind of sound a little, I don't know, genocide-y. You know, he's talking about, yeah, we'll wait a little bit.
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Starting point is 00:03:24 ethical concerns in my program and the field. So I wrote in the Wall Street Journal about what was going on, and I was effectively blackballed from that industry. So I took a break, had a baby, but I'm doing writing and culture and psychology now. Right on. Well, thanks for hanging out. We got the boys. Hi.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Good to be here. What's up, man. What's up, Carter? What's up, everyone? I'm so pumped to be here. Let's talk about the news. Here's the story from AP News. Target faces renewed backlash.
Starting point is 00:03:54 after stocking Halloween costume with minstrel show features. Notice they had to refer to it as minstrel show features because it's, it's just, it's not, let's pull up this one first. Here's the costume. Kids glow, kids glows under blacklight circus clown Halloween costume bodysuit, hide and eke boutique L. First of all, Target didn't make this product, some company did. and there's only one real issue with it.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And you what that issue is? The hat. Nope. The race of the child. The race of the child. If that was a white kid doing that, nobody would have said anything. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Because it's literally just a clown costume. It is literally the checkered pants, the zigzag Halloween features with a small clown hat, but it's orange and black because it's Halloween. But because a black kid's doing it, it's racist now. Yeah, they clown them up. Like them teeth, though. Like that, come on.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Look at that big ass. That ain't no clown. Clowns can't smile, Ian? Clowns get red nose. No, no, Ian's right. Black people aren't allowed to be clowns. It's racist. They can't smile.
Starting point is 00:05:04 They can't have, you know, I'm going to show you another offensive thing here. Like, but disturbing. Okay, what about the pose, though? Like, maybe the costume itself wasn't. What about the pose is racist? Because someone found an old cartoon of a guy. The guy on the left, the black guy notes, is not even a clown.
Starting point is 00:05:20 It's literally just an old-timey, drawing of a black guy. And people are offended by it because of the history of racism. Look, the guy with the hat right here, that's a minstrel like caricature, right? Yeah. Like a bellhop. I don't know what it is. Here's the other problem. That's a bellhop hat. White people wore bellhop hats too. This is insane. It's like that you, have you guys seen the Dave Chappelle sketch that's super funny where he gets offered, uh, uh, the flight attendant asks him if he wants the fish or the chicken. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah. I have. And then he's all very calm and he's like, how is the, he's like, I'll have the fish. And she's like, I'm sorry, we're out. And then there's the black minstrel character wearing the bellhop costume with the cane going, he's like, get the chicken. No, you want the chicken.
Starting point is 00:06:07 You know you want it. And then he's like, how is the chicken prepared? It's fried. And then he goes, oh, like the point is, those characters are just dressed like bellhops. Not, like dressing like a bellhop does not make you racist. and does not make it a minstrel show. The problem is now, because blackface used bellhop costumes, any circumstance in which a black person is just like a bellhop,
Starting point is 00:06:31 they're going to call it racist. It's the same reason I don't draw swastikas on my face. Like, it was corrupted by the Nazis. Please unpack that. The remedial, the bellhop look for the black people. Like, this is crazy racist. Like, is that a bellhop on the child? I'm loving this one.
Starting point is 00:06:46 No, but it's at the same angle and it's at the same size. If anything, the photographer and whoever posed the child is a little suck. The photographer might have known what he was doing, but everyone else, I don't know. Look, the costume in and of itself is definitely not racist. You put a white kid in there, nobody would have thought anything of it at all. It's just because there's a black kid in there. I would love to know how many people actually complained. Like, is this something that was actually a lot of people?
Starting point is 00:07:20 Or was it just enough for Target to notice and be like, we don't want this heat. Because to be fair, Target doesn't lose anything for taking this out of their inventory or taking it off the website and saying, we're not selling this thing, right? There is zero downside for that. I'm going to show you guys an image of a black man being a clown, and you're going to agree, it's racist and should never be allowed. Okay? You ready? Here you go. Hey, my favorite clowns. That's homie, the clown. That's homie the clown. I got a question. It's honest.
Starting point is 00:07:50 question. Is homie the clown racist? I don't think this was racist. I don't mean is like actual homie. He was hood. Like the character? Was he racist to people? I'm saying, is it racist that they made a homie the clown? No. Why not? Because Damon Wans did it of his own volition.
Starting point is 00:08:06 A kid did it of his own. His family was like, oh great, he's going to model a costume. And then they were like, that's racist. That was that guy's big break, too. Poor guy. Damon or the kid? No, the child. No, he might actually get more from this. Look at that. He's telling his friends at school. You can tell by his eyes, he's actually not smiling.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I'm not kidding. When I'm older, he's not. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can tell people are smiling because people actually smile with their eyes, not with their mouth. Yeah. It's actually very disturbing when you see someone smiling with sad eyes.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Like, in politics, it's not uncommon. Smiling with sad eyes. I'd rather just not smile. I used to catch myself doing it. I'm glad I make videos because I saw it. And I'm like, I got to just let my face be miserable. So like, here's the point I'm making. Homi smacked kids around.
Starting point is 00:08:50 he, I believe it, did he ever have a gun? I could swear it. Oh, yeah, I'm sure that he did. So, when a black man is a clown, he smacks kids, his intolerable, offensive, that was the joke. I'm not kidding. Homie don't play that. The reason why this show was funny to people was that homie the clown was atypical and acted like a gangbanger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:14 He wanted money from the kids for drugs. And here's the best part. If a white guy played homie the clown, that's definitely. racist. Oh, no, you can't do that. Why guy can't be homie? Depends on the white guy. What you thought home? I thought was hilarious. If Robert Downey Jr. did it, he might have pulled it off. Like, Tropic Thunder.
Starting point is 00:09:30 That was great. And they were like, but the joke was blackface. That's the point. Right. He was making fun of people that did blackface. Well, I'm sad that Target actually capitulated because I feel like it's just the revival of everything that we saw with cancel culture. Yeah. I think that
Starting point is 00:09:46 you can't give into bullies and it seems Like we're on the verge of another, another era of doing that. It's, this is, we've been saying forever. As soon as Democrats get back into positions of authority and they're capable of doing it, they will do it again. It is, it does not go away. That is something the left is chomping at the bit to do. This show is so good.
Starting point is 00:10:11 You know what's going to take five clouds to do this act. Yeah, where's that replacement clown you were supposed to find? Very age. Hey, you're like. You go out and what's in it? His name is homie de clown. His parole officer. He'll be filling in here as part of the work release program.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Just keep an eye on him, uh? Dude, there's no way they would allow this right now. A black clown who just got a prison on parole. Not at all. And they were like, why are you making the black man a guy who was in prison? What did you do? Like, I just jumped at the part. He hits the guy.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Let's just. They would never allow this today. This is like substantially worse than what that kid is doing. Yeah. The only reason that I think that I might push back on that is it is a black guy that created it. So it might be okay because like, look, no one can say the N word except for black people. So he has the past. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:09 It might be where they would get away with it because he's a black guy. But I mean, obviously if there was a white writer in the room, you're doomed, you know. The white guys aren't allowed to write any jokes for this particular skit. has to be only black guys. That's right. That just goes to, you know, goes to point out how, or to shed a light on how silly the whole thing is.
Starting point is 00:11:31 You know, you're not allowed to engage in this comedy. You're not allowed to say this word. You're not allowed to have this thing that brings to mind something to someone, from someone else. The people that at Target, they had no,
Starting point is 00:11:42 I would be willing to bet that none of them ever thought, oh, that looks like a minstrel and this might be perceived as racist. I'd be willing to bet anything they didn't. Well, one thing's for certain is that black children cannot be clowns. Clearly. I mean, I'm laughing right now. The other thing, too, was they can't be monkeys either.
Starting point is 00:12:01 That's too bad because I didn't refer to my buddy as a monkey. No, no, no, no, no. There was something that happened with the school where the teacher was like, there were a bunch of little monkeys, and then there was like a black kid in the class. And they were like, whoa, whoa. She was like, what? They're just little kids running around and going, like, I'm just going to joke.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And they're like, not if there's a black kid there. You can't say that. No monkeys jumping off the bed. Once we normalize calling black people monkeys, and I mean that is I call white people monkeys. I call my Asian friends monkeys. You're a monkey to me. Monkey-ish.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Then we'll know that woke is the monkey. This is hilarious. It's how you defeat woke as if you can chill. No, it's not. And like, just chill with each other. Like, okay, you can refer to each other as monkeys. We have natural ancestors together. All of us do.
Starting point is 00:12:41 The thing is, you don't get those people to chill because that's where they get their power from is the outrage. if they can actually convince other people that what they say, they truly believe, and that it's actually offensive, that empowers them to attack people. And that's the whole game. Well, they want you in a position of fear. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Yeah. It's all about. Do you guys ever see clerks, was it clerks three? Taking it back. Was it two or three? Was it two or three? He's taken it. He's taking it back.
Starting point is 00:13:15 He's like, he calls the kid a little porch monkey. and then what's the other guy's name? Silent Bob, Jay, Asylum, blah. No, no, no. No, it was. I forgot his name. Dante. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:26 He's like, you can't say that? It's like, what? My greatest say to me all the time. That's funny. No, it's racist. No, it's not. Dude, she also, she also reads the- And then he calls the kid at the counter.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And then he's like, yeah, you know, it makes me think she did always refer to a broken bottle as a, I'm not going to say that because that's a no-no word. This is my question because if you say woke is coming back. So if you can convince you. the masses that just to chill. Not the people that are intentionally trying to freak people out, but the masses, they'll be, all right, all right, I'm done with it, I've had it, I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:13:57 How many years have to go by until you need to do that again? But again, constantly have to be reminding people to chill? The equation for Target was, we lose nothing by taking this off the shelf, and we risk bad press by leaving it on. There is, they have, there is zero downside to them taking it off. us talking about it on the show here, that's not going to come up with a boycott. That's not going to get activists to blah, blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:14:25 but activists will go ahead and say, oh, this is racist, targets, racist, and they'll make a bunch of noise, and you don't need a million people to be upset. You need a few thousand, maybe even of just a few hundred, to get onto Target's X page or their Facebook page
Starting point is 00:14:41 and accuse them of racism. And that's it. You don't need a lot of people to do this. Again, so there's no downside to take. taking it down, but there's all, there's no, there's no winning by leaving it up. Do you think this was a false flag by like some racist creator, designer? They're like, oh, we're going to get the racist woke people to complain about it. And so they wanted it to happen, even though they were the racist ones that wanted the complaints. I think you're reading a whole
Starting point is 00:15:06 lot into it. You're like looking for like some kind of conspiracy that isn't there. Like I said, there is zero downside to taking it down. Well, I'm sure that there's activists in Target too, who Maybe we're pushing this. I mean, Target was the company who was selling binding garments and tucking garments in, what was that, 2020? Mm-hmm. Maybe it was 2021 or 22. But either way, it doesn't matter around the same time. So it doesn't matter splitting hairs trying to figure it.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I think, you know, more and more, I'm not entirely sure who wins the midterms. I think Republicans have a great opportunity because of the procedural victories. We've got big news we'll get into, and that is Supreme Court. saying Trump's executive order on the post office stuff, he's going to let some of it fly. However, you know, the economy is not good. And it was funny with this Canadian trade war stuff where, I'm sorry, not Canadian, the Iranian stuff, Besson was like, with the strength of the Trump economy, we're going to withstand this and blah blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I'm like the strength. Bro, I don't know what you're talking about, but people are not having a good time right now. It's not like the worst economy of the country's ever had, but it's generally down. and I've been like, listen, I'm, like this. It's growth is like 1.5% or something like that. What is it?
Starting point is 00:16:20 It's, it's slugging. I don't even believe it. I believe, I believe. Inflation is higher than growth, so we're not even growing, right? And so, well, I guess technically they try to argue,
Starting point is 00:16:29 though, inflation means growth. It doesn't. So one way you can, we track is I always talk about ads. The way ad revenue works for YouTube is that it's a bunch, it's a little bits of money from a lot of people. So most of the ads on Google are going to be like a diner in a small like
Starting point is 00:16:46 like Winchester, Virginia, for example, there's a burger shop. They'll buy $500 and ads for the month and have that run for everybody who lives in and around Winchester,
Starting point is 00:16:59 which is going to be a couple hundred thousand people. We're going to see maybe three or four cents from that, you know, on this show because there's people all over there. Well, there's not that many people in Winchester
Starting point is 00:17:10 and there's a lot of content people watch. And that means if a Mr. Beast video plays, he's going to make, know, 53 cents off of that 500. So when the ad rates are going down, what you're really seeing is that small businesses are struggling. They're not buying ads from with their business because they do not have discretionary funds.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Everything's getting tighter and tighter. And we can see this in the background for ad rates. They've been improving a little bit. But since the start of the war, it's been getting bad. This means, you know, people are not happy with the state of things. And so when that happens, they say maybe the other guy will do better. They don't care about woke. They don't care about Trump or borders.
Starting point is 00:17:42 A lot of people do. but those are not lowest common denominator issues. So if you can animate 27% of the population and immigration, you're going to get a big boost. But the Democrats are going to go for the other 73. That's a bigger boost. The lowest common denominator issue is always going to be the economy. With that, I think Democrats might actually win.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I think they have a decent probability. It's hard to say because this procedural game, the Republicans are playing is nuts. But if they do, woke is back. You do not understand. TikTok is already banning people. TikTok has already started reverting back to the way it was before it was bought out. We saw Spencer Pratt calling out the Lindsay Clancy stuff, gone.
Starting point is 00:18:23 They took it down. Cam Higby took his stuff that he had to fight for it to get it back. Fortunately, he did after some pressure. But look at the Lindsay Clancy stuff where these women are coming out and throwing ice in their showers, talking about how they too could murder their children. And TikTok is like, let it roll, baby. And then the people like Spencer Pratt who are saying this is bad for us, He gets banned.
Starting point is 00:18:44 It is going back. They are pulling back the power. If they win, here we go. I think Trump, he has doubled down. I don't know if that means he's all in. But I think they got to change their messaging the administration away from the economy's great to we're going to fix the economy. Because it's too obvious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:02 The economy sucks. I mean, as somebody, I was a business owner. I owned a skate shop. And times are tough. You don't own a skate shop anymore? No, I don't own a skate shop anymore, Tim. But is it a source subject? What happened?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Yeah, it's a sore subject. But it was tough when we were doing it. I mean, yeah, we can't spend on advertising. People aren't spending. People don't want to come in and buy a $70 sweatshirt. And I voted for Trump because, well, one, I was scared of the woke stuff with Kamala Harris, but also the gas pump. And I want more money in my pockets, obviously.
Starting point is 00:19:42 but what? Got a question. Well, so real quick, the reason I asked about the skateboard thing is we just had our third factory shutdown. Oh.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And so this is a mess for everybody who bought a skateboard. We have two options for you because we've got a lot of emails and they're like, hey man, it's been a month and a half, where's my board? Third skateboard factory shut down
Starting point is 00:19:58 because skateboarding is dead. All the jobs have been offshore to China. All the core skate shops, they're going. Oh, they're gone, but it's because the skateboards are being made in China for pennies and the dollar.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And so I'm not going to buy Chinese boards. This is not going to happen. I will refund and go out of business before I buy skateboards from China. So we found another factory. And we are, so I believe they said that the boards are all being shipped out now. But this, I ask because it's relevant to what we're talking about the economy, the one thing that I still want Trump to succeed at is these tariffs. We need trade protectionism. And Trump was talking about renaming Lake Ontario, Lake America.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Go for it. I think it's funny. Who cares? Whatever. But, you know, there's this idea that other countries have that they're entitled to our manufacturing, our labor. This article talking about it said, you know, Ronald Reagan was a big proponent of free trade. This is what happens. Okay. Reagan's like, we got, we're going to boost the economy. I mean, it was pretty bad under Carter. We get that. Everything's starting to get better under Reagan. Everyone loves it. So he says, free trade. It's easy to open the door. You know, you have a safe neighborhood. And you're like, what do we need guns for? The neighborhood's safe. everyone goes and they throw all their guns away and they there we go and then a week later there's gangbangers everywhere
Starting point is 00:21:17 they're getting shot this drug dealing was like oh what what do we do now well you got rid of what made it safe yeah so right now it's happening is all this free trade it was our manufacturing base that this low-skill labor and our culture that helped us have this it's gone so i i say this uh i think the war has been so far we have not seen or been explained any positive positives about it and the economy's only getting worse. The Democrats have blocked Trump's efforts at tariffs. And his tariffs have been wild. The universal tariffs are just wacky as it is, but I'll take it. So I'm hoping we get some kind of trade productionism, which is funny because that's a left-wing position. And now the left is claiming it's a right-wing position. But other than that, I'll tell you this, Democrats are not
Starting point is 00:21:59 going to make the economy better. They're going to make it worse. They're going to make it worse intentionally. Because that way J.D. Vance loses in 2028 when the Democrats say, hey, he's the president, you know, Trump's the president. An idea of what the Republican administration could do right now. if you guys think this is a good idea, subsidizing small businesses for marketing. So like a small company could get, you put $100 million of federal funds into it, a small company can get $20,000 a year in free marketing on YouTube. No. You don't think that the government subsidizing free marketing for no, because that'll drive the price of the ads up and that means the private sector will be impossible to run ads. Yep. Anytime you, anytime the government dumps money into things, it offsets the market.
Starting point is 00:22:40 But this is the easiest to explain because YouTube ads are done on what's called a bid process. So that means right now if there's $100 million in the private market that's going into Google, everybody says, I'm willing to pay X amount of cents per conversion. A conversion is going to cost you between like 30 and 50 cents. A view can cost you a penny. But if you want to get, if you said, I want my ad to run on 8. PM live big show. Well, guess what?
Starting point is 00:23:12 Everyone wants that slot. So it's going to cost you 10 cents per view. It's going to cost you a dollar per conversion. And the only one who could afford that is going to be like Coca-Cola or Pepsi. So let's say at the lowest level, midnight ads, just general ads across YouTube,
Starting point is 00:23:27 they do run and they cost about three cents. And that's because advertisers say, I'll bid two cents. I'll bid three cents. Three cents wins. Now what happens when the government dumps an extra, when doubles, the monetary spend, $100 million.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Now, you've got way more money in the system. So here's what happens if you can't make the bid. If I put 20 grand on YouTube and said, I want to run an ad, but I don't want to spend more than $0.0.0 views. Because Coke and Pepsi will run it at $0.5. If every single person says, we don't want to spend more than this, they don't run at all. So what do they do?
Starting point is 00:24:03 They increase their willingness to spend to try and turn on the spigot. They'll say, look, if three cents doesn't sell and we can't get ads, let's go to five cents. But now everybody's got money. So then the other guy who normally doesn't have money goes, hey, six cents is better than zero views. Let's go six cents. And then all of a sudden, everyone's spending a dollar per view and they get 20,000 views. And then the market is just burned out. Small businesses, not subsidized, can't do it.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Big corporations pull out. The economy breaks down. I think what we need to do for small businesses is tax breaks because the cost of running a brick. and mortar is insane. I mean, what I'm paying and even just sales tax, I mean, that's 10% of everything that, you know, comes in and there's self-employment tax. If we got a break from that, it would be huge. When you're just making ends meet, though, that's, I mean, that's make or break. But the point of taxes is to control for inflation because the government spends money that they don't have. Basically, people, it's, they have it backwards. They're like, my tax dollars are
Starting point is 00:25:05 funding this war. that's true. What's really happening is the government just creates debt where they basically say to these weapons manufacturers, send us a bill, make it, send us a bill. And then they do, and that company spends down through their investments or personal coffers, then go to the government and say, we want our money. So the government's just like, okay, they just manufacture it, click the button in his account. Then they go, now we got inflation. So they take the money from the business and effectively burn it. Not literally, but they're pulling money from you to control the speed of inflation. They're not taking your money and then spending it. They're spending
Starting point is 00:25:39 money they don't have. They manifest and then taking from you so that the market doesn't go crazy. And also, tax relief would mean they let the market go crazy. And also, as soon as you start doing things like cutting taxes, the whole of the left freaks out because people that own businesses, they own property. And the left is already apoplectic about people who own property. You would be called, they would look at your total net worth for your business. Oh, you're a millionaire. You're cutting taxes for the millionaires again. That's what the government always does. They're friends.
Starting point is 00:26:09 They're rich elites. They're cutting taxes. It would be a nightmare for politically because they don't, they don't understand how businesses work or how money works. They don't understand anything except that person has a lot of money and they're getting another tax break and I can't make ends meet. I can't pay the bills. I can't get up and get to work on time or whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:34 their effing problem is, but. Well, it's just, it's just a fundamental misunderstanding of how small business runs, because even if you look at how much money we're bringing in a year and you think, wow, that's a lot of money, I don't know any small business owner in my town that thinks things are going really great right now. Everybody is freaking out. They don't care. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And at least the point that I'm making, they don't care. Who doesn't? The people on the left that are like, oh, you know, the billion, the millionaires, and billionaires are always getting tax breaks from the government. Donald Trump's giving tax breaks to his friends. The narrative is what they care about. And because they don't feel like they're able to make ends meet or they don't feel like it's a fair system, they don't care that there are people that own businesses that are
Starting point is 00:27:21 actually on a shoestring budget that are not taking a lot of money home. It doesn't mean a goddamn thing to them. They look at the amount, they look at your net worth or, and I'm not saying you personally, but they look at a business's net worth, you know, or a person's net worth because of the business they own. Oh, look, you own a building. It means you're probably a millionaire. You got half a million dollars in just the building.
Starting point is 00:27:40 And then you've got your stocks or your net worth as soon as it's over a million dollars. They just lose their mind. I do want to stress this too for a lot of people. The average millionaire, we brought up on the show before, the average salary of a millionaire in the United States is about $160,000 a year. It is not what people think. So when you look at Loudoun County, which is the wealthiest county, I think in the world, the average salary there, the median is like $100,000.
Starting point is 00:28:04 And these people own houses that are like $20, $30 million. Now, those guys probably make a little bit more than that. But people need to understand it's not what they think. Millionaires aren't making a million dollars a year. They would be billionaires if they're making a million dollars a year. Yeah, you want to specify the difference between mega corporations that are trying to take over the world. Left and right can agree.
Starting point is 00:28:23 We don't want that. Well, this is what I'm, you can reposition the argument because you want small business to thrive. It's just like teach a man to fish. You want the individual to have autonomy. You want small businesses to be the driving force. severe economy. So if you can inspire people to protect these smaller companies while kind of buffering against Coca-Cola, no offense Coca-Cola, whoever owns Coca-Cola.
Starting point is 00:28:45 No offense. The marketing. Let me pause real quick. Coca-Cola is a wildly unhealthy drink. Do not drink it. Well, any megacorp that wants to advertise on a network, if we can somehow invest or buffer the small businesses against that to protect our way of life. They don't want to protect our way of life. I have to issue a correction.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Fundamental differences. They don't want to protect our way of life. They want to destroy capitalism. I have to issue a correction on that. Enjoy a Coke sometimes. Responsibly. Yeah, you know, like I think I had one Coke in the past. I think I had a Coca-Cola, I think like three months ago.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And it was the first Coke I've had in probably like seven years. Yeah, about seven years ago I drank a Diet Coke. had about this much of it and my digestion was great and then I had this much more and I felt it oozing out of my pores. I was like, I'm getting sick. It was so great. Diet Coke is dangerous. I'm addicted to Diet Coke. There's something going on there. The point that I'm making, it's not that your idea in theory isn't good. It's just that the people that I'm talking about, people are just narrative driven anyways and they're not going to care about, oh, we need to make sure that the small businesses are taken care of. The left has moved significantly away from
Starting point is 00:29:59 that the far left wants to absolutely overturn the entire system that we live under. And people that are not quite as far left, they're already bowing to the pressure from the far left. You say that the people in the far left want to destroy businesses known, just business? Yes. In Seattle, in Portland, they intentionally go downtown in Portland and smash the windows of small businesses. That's the point. Bro, during COVID, did they shut down Walmart? No, they shut down the small businesses.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Remember the lady in Jersey? We covered the story. There was a woman who had a small resale shop in North Jersey. They forced her to close. So she went on Facebook live and said, here are the things that I have in my store. Send me a message if you want to buy them. When the cops found out she was selling products,
Starting point is 00:30:45 they came, knocked to the door, and they said, ma'am, you need to close. And she was, I am closed. I'm like, no, you need to stop selling products. And she was like, what? I'm closed. No one can come here. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:30:57 Because the real purpose, was not some kind of pandemic thing. It was to shut down small business. So global corporate governance obviously is infecting people's minds through the left mindset of we the people, we the corporate, we the totality. But the reality is small business is the driving for, I mean, Ben Franklin was a small businessman. These guys are like, so we need to protect it somehow.
Starting point is 00:31:24 If we can control the narrative or something. I completely agree with you. But the point that I'm making is just the left. doesn't and that's why I'm saying like what she's talking about like the the idea of tax breaks for business small businesses that's great I'm I'm totally I mean look I'm I'm I'm the kind guy that thinks we should cut taxes a lot but we already have a progressive tax we have the most progressive tax system in the world regardless of what anyone else says are or what people tell you I think we should cut taxes probably significantly I think it
Starting point is 00:31:52 helped look look at but the fact of the matter is the left when they hear oh we're going to cut taxes what they hear is the The corporations are getting breaks from the Republicans or from Donald Trump. Again, it's Trump helping his friends. No, we can't have it. This is the story from 2020 in May. The woman said, you guys are picking on me because I'm trying to feed my kids. She was running a Facebook live video Tuesday to sell some of her products when Officer Tyler Demett came to her store at 9 p.m.
Starting point is 00:32:24 About an hour in a video, he says on the video, she's in violation of Murphy's order for operas. operating her business past the 8 p.m. curfew. And for her and her employing, not wearing a mask. I am totally being picked on right now. You guys are picking on me because I'm trying to feed my kids. My store has been closed. I had a little fresh share. I'm not open. I'm doing a live. I have done this time and time again. And now people are picking on me. No, it's because the point was to shut the businesses down. Yeah. It wasn't about stopping people from coming into business because she did not let them in the business. They are commies and wanted to destroy the businesses. I got to be honest, I wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:32:57 surprised if the real reason Blue States did this was climate change because remember the new York times wrote the earth is healing we were we we refused to shut down in 2020 and we're absolutely intimidated by the health department coming in threatening persistently and we just said no we're not going to do it because then we wouldn't be able to pay our rent and feed our children but that turned out all to just be posturing nothing happened we were not fined we were not fined We were not cited. It was absolute bullying. But we were able to sell some face diapers not required shirts in our shop.
Starting point is 00:33:37 So that was fun. Where was your shop? It was so gross. It's a clothing store and a skate shop. Like where was it? In, do you know Santa Cruz at all? It's a couple hours south of San Francisco. It's a small beach town.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Yeah, it's where NHS is H-Qed. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. Like the tech capital of the world? It is. One of them, if not. Close to it. Silicon Valley. Oh, it's close to it. Yeah. Silicon Valley is real close just over the hill.
Starting point is 00:34:07 But yeah, we're one of the skateboarding capitals of the world for sure. Santa Cruz skateboards. Santa Cruz skateboards, baby. But yeah, look, I mean, it's not that any of the ideas here floated are bad because they actually would work and produce positive results. But you're dealing with a group of people that don't want positive results because positive results lowers the number or makes there fewer people that are actually upset and the left needs people to be agitated they they need people that are angry because angry people will go ahead and say well i don't have anything to lose i'll throw a brick through this window happy people
Starting point is 00:34:44 don't revolt that's just the way that it is if you if you have a society that's mostly and or as you know actually i'm mostly uh very satisfied with their lives and feel good about their future, why is there a need for a revolution? You have to have at least 30% of the people that are pretty unhappy with their lives and pretty unhappy about their future to get enough people to make a critical mass of people that will be active.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Because even if you have like 33% of the people that are unhappy with their lives, you know, it's like the actual people that will take action based on that is even smaller. So, but it doesn't take a majority of the people to cause a revolution. You can do it with like 10%, 5%. Yeah, because the other 25%
Starting point is 00:35:26 percent of people that are pissed off will just, they'll do nothing while the revolution happens because they're so disenfranchised so you need. But like, okay, diagnosing the problem, foreign interference, foreign banks, foreign corporations trying to destroy American small business to basically buy the country out. Who, who are they? Who are these people? If they're really, you say they on the left, the far, who are they? I'm talking about like agitators that are people that are in the DSA and people that are communists and people that are looking to overthrow our system. They want to see the destruction of the capitalist system totally. So the people like talking about banks and stuff like that, they don't come into the equation
Starting point is 00:36:07 because they're the people that actually, they definitely want to keep our system working because they're the ones that lend money. They're the ones that have the capital. They're the ones that can lend money to business owners and stuff like that. The people that want to destroy the system that we live in are people. People that are communists, people in the far left. They're people that don't really have anything to lose. But I think the banks would be happy to loan us money to rebuild our nuclear devastation after a war,
Starting point is 00:36:32 like the way they loaned to Germany after World War II. I don't know that a revolution here would be a nuclear war. But they would love to loan us money just to rebuild our cities because we destroyed them from idiocy. They'd be happy to see us rip ourselves apart, I think. The thing is the destruction of like the American way of life isn't about destroying buildings and creating rubble. It's about overturning who's in authority.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And they want the people in my say they, I mean like communists, they want to take the positions. Nobody wants Russia doesn't want the U.S. to die or China to die. They want them to be curtailed so that they have authority over the global economic system. But all of these major nations
Starting point is 00:37:15 want each other to exist because they serve each other. Yeah, they want the U.S. to be neutered so that their dollars aren't potent. Well, the idea is Russia wants to get rich and have us do work for them at a weaker rate. It really just comes down to who's going to be doing the cheaper work, right? Russia says we want the United States to provide labor for us at 70 cents in the dollar. And the U.S. says no, Russia is going to provide for us at 70 cents in the dollar. When the U.S. dominates global energy pathways, they can then go to every country and say, you work by our rules now.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Do you think that robots supplanting the workforce will solve a lot of these problems? Oh, so I think we're going to, I think it's going to get substantially worse with the optimist bots coming in. The one thing I can say is it's fascinating that the Democrat solution was open the borders. The Trump solution has closed the borders. Hey, Elon Musk. The Democrats were after Elon Musk. They did not like him. So Elon's building these optimist bots.
Starting point is 00:38:10 We've got the new space port up in Louisiana. SpaceX stock is going to go nuts. It's going to go nuts. People are, these lefties are stupid. Let me tell you. Elon says, I'm going to buy Twitter. And they were like, uh-oh. So they all sold their Tesla shares at $300, dropping Tesla down to $113 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:28 And then I'm sitting there watching the news, covering the news. And I'm like, Tesla as a company has done nothing to warrant the stock loss. So I bought a ton of Tesla stock. And then within like six months, boom, back to 300. Because these people are dumb and are buying stocks based on emotion. So SpaceX launches their IPO. They're talking about what are they doing? 10 starships a month or some stupid number?
Starting point is 00:38:49 They want to do 10 a day. A day? I thought it was three. Oh my God. Well, look, he, well, that was me guessing. I just read something on there. His ultimate goal is to have like 10 starships flying a day. You have to, like, you have to move a lot of material into space to be able to build an actual
Starting point is 00:39:08 sustainable colony on the moon and then Mars, right? Like, you need a boatload of, like, just mega tonnage. and you have to put a lot of rockets into space to do that. So if you watch the announcement video that SpaceX put out today, the number, the flight frequency that Musk is talking about is just insane. So it's not, it probably won't always, it probably won't all just be from Louisiana. You're going to have SpaceX, what's called Star Base in Texas. They might be launching out of Florida.
Starting point is 00:39:43 But he's going to be launching a lot of rockets. And when I say a lot, it's like going to be a, it's going to be far beyond what most people would assume. Let me, let me just put it like this. Bitcoin. All of these people for years were like, don't buy it, don't buy it, don't buy it, don't buy it, don't buy it. Heads of banks are saying don't buy it. A lot of people bought it. Most people didn't.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Today, there were viral videos where a guy, he's in like time scoring, he goes, I'll give you, he said, if I could give you $10,000 or one Bitcoin right now, what did you take? they go, oh, $10,000. A Bitcoin is 80 grand. It's like 78,5 right now. I just checked. But these people don't even know what it is. These big bankers were saying don't buy it. And then when the price kept going up and the patterns were visible and the market was expanding, they started buying it.
Starting point is 00:40:33 So my point is most of these people in every space, they're wrong about everything. Most people are wrong about everything. I think that Jamie Diamond was lying. I think they were telling people don't do it. And then they buy it up. Yeah, then they buy it up. This is what they do. They'll intentionally tank the market, tell everybody it's over.
Starting point is 00:40:51 And you always see it in the media, they'll be like, this is it for Bitcoin. The electricity is too expensive. And then people start dumping in panic. And then once it goes down, it was at $120,000. It goes down to $60,000. They all start buying it back up and now it's at $80 again. And now the estimates are like, oh, well, if you actually watch the market pattern, it's going to go up to $200,000 within the next year or whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Maybe it's less likely that Jamie Diamond was lying when he said don't do Bitcoin. it's not good. But maybe it's more likely that he knows people in the government. They're like, hey, Jamie, now's the time. I believe that they all sold the top at 120 and then said, this is it, Bitcoin's over. We sold.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And then everyone panic sells. And they go, oh, actually, and they buy it back up and double their holding. That's so easy to do. It's supposed to be illegal, I think. There's a term for that when you rocked the market like that. Well, if you are manipulating the market intentionally by going on big shows and lying.
Starting point is 00:41:42 but there's ways to do it legally and just say, if they were to say, we're going to liquidate a certain portion because we think we're at the top and it might go down and that's true. Then when it goes down, they say, see, we were right. We want to reinvest an opportunity, but they cause it to go down. It's like if you got a bowl of water and you're sloshing it to the left and to the right, all the water that's spilling over is being caught in a larger bowl underneath. That's the price of Bitcoin going up to the price of gold going up to the price of Bitcoin. They sell off high. They buy back loan and sell off high. And all those little what collects it goes to Switzerland. In reference to like everything we're talking about, just think about how in 2015,
Starting point is 00:42:22 everybody was saying you're stupid for buying Bitcoin. And then there were people who bought at 20,000. They mortgaged their houses to buy Bitcoin. And then when it dropped in 10, they panic sold being like, I've lost everything. And then five years later, it jumps up to some stupid number. Or I think, what was it like, 2023 or 24? It hit 128 or something.
Starting point is 00:42:40 stupid number. And if those people just did not, there was one story, it was really funny, a guy did mortgage his house. And then when the price dropped, he was like, I don't know, what am I going to do, I guess. And then when it hit 120K, he cashed out like some stupid amount of money, like $60 million. And he was like, I'm good. I'm done. But my point is not to say by Bitcoin or anything. My point is everyone was saying the wrong thing. Every single person was saying the wrong thing. You're stupid. You're buying fake. It doesn't even make sense. And then people got rich. there were people in the tech world that knew, at least they understood the value of it, that it was an immutable currency with some form of...
Starting point is 00:43:15 Right, right, right. My point is just... I was surrounded by people who had it. You're going to hear people in the news. You're going to hear people in your day of life. They're going to tell you you're wrong about something. And ignore them. Yeah, especially when it's going out on a limb, taking a risk,
Starting point is 00:43:27 and everybody's shaming you for being stupid. That's a good indication that you might be on to something. Or screwed. It really could go either way. Sometimes when people tell you're stupid, it's because you're actually stupid is because you're actually stupid. Let's jump to the story from NBC News. Hey, it's politics.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Abdul El Sayah distances himself from Hassan Piker's comments on Israel and Jewish Americans. Oh, no. Oh, no. What did he say this time? All right. Let's pull it up. Hassan Piker Jews. I type that in.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Here we go. Here's the video in question. Everybody's being told you got to back off this guy. This is what, let me get the audio, make sure it's working. And you want to know why? Because people don't fuck with Israel any longer. And if Jews in America keep putting this idea out there that they are singularly invested in Israel, eventually someone's going to come around and take action. Not against the state of Israel, mind you, but against American Jews.
Starting point is 00:44:26 That's a threat. Okay? We're teaching people the wrong lesson. I don't know how people don't recognize how dangerous. this predicament is, how dangerous this is for Jews. Wow. They're running around basically tying your entire identity to a country that inevitably will be seen as basically Jewish ISIS. And you're saying, as Jews, this is all we care about.
Starting point is 00:44:56 You're making anti-Semitism worse. Now, here's the important thing to understand. If I said on this show, if American Jews, a tantalmers, a tantamist, their identity just to Israel, the way things are going in this country with people like Hassan, someone is going to attack them. I actually agree with the surface level sentiment. People like Hassan and his followers in that video were not expressing what I just expressed. My point is, I don't care about Israel. If you're Jewish, I don't care if you like or don't like Israel. That's fine. You can have your politics. Whatever. I got my criticisms. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:45:32 But I do think these lunatics are going to start attacking people. And you can see the threats. Now the issue is, Hassan is one of the preeminent espousers of this anti-Israel and Jew stuff. When his followers are saying it's going to get dangerous, they're not saying, I'm worried what those whack-a-loon anti-Semites are going to do. They're literally saying, me and my friends are getting fed up. Yeah, there's a difference between a warning and a threat. And it's a lot about the way you say it and how you outline it. because if I say if you step over the line,
Starting point is 00:46:05 you're going to get your legs. Like, that's obviously a threat that I'm threatening you that if you do this, something's going to happen to you. As opposed to, hey, just so you know if you step over that line, it will break your legs. That's a warning.
Starting point is 00:46:17 So, well, let's put like this. He's somewhere in between. But no, but let's put it like this. Let's say Ian is known to walk around with a ball peen hammer striking people in the kneecaps. And then he says, hey, you, you best watch out.
Starting point is 00:46:30 You cross that line. Someone might smash your kneecap. cap with a ball peen hammer. Or you're going to be like, yeah, he's threatening you. Now, let's say I'm standing next to Ian and I go, bro, watch out. That guy might smack your knee with a ball peen hammer. Yes. This is the difference.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Hassan and his crew, they go on their shows like his followers. They say these things all day every day. Then he comes out and says, you better be careful because someone's going to do something. Now, ultimately, I would say the point is we have a problem this country. I was debating with Nick Friedas the other night. With respect, he's a brilliant guy. I'm a big fan, but I disagree. I think we got too much into semantics.
Starting point is 00:47:07 My point on the Constitution, I say laws don't exist, the Constitution doesn't exist. It's not that we as a people in the United States don't have one. It's not being used. That's not the point I'm making. I'm saying that Hassan Piker does not like this country, wants to destroy this country. The DSA, a third of the Democratic Party, wants to abolish the Constitution outright. They don't abide by it. Federal judges have been issuing rulings.
Starting point is 00:47:32 contradicting the Constitution for a decade. So these people do not operate under the Constitution until we force them to, and they are growing and getting more and more powerful. So we have a subversive element in this country, and I fear they are going to start attacking people. Let me steal man Hassan's perspective, because I actually brought this up a couple weeks ago, that people in the United States, Jewish people that are Americans,
Starting point is 00:47:58 refer to themselves as Jewish Americans, maybe they refer to themselves as American Jews. if I go to their Instagram page, are they waving Israeli flags? Because they're Americans, and that doesn't make a lot of sense. So that concerns me. I'm not saying it's going to bring violence down on their heads, but I'm saying it concerns me if an American citizen waves the flag of a foreign nation fervently over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Yeah, it's bizarre. It's fine if an American... They don't talk about Ukraine, do they? The American Ukrainians were here. They supported that the president of Ukraine went to our Congress, and they all waived Ukrainian flags. So their argument about Israel makes no sense. Now, the argument about Israel as a military state attacking another country, those criticisms are fine.
Starting point is 00:48:41 But the arguments about, you can't have people in this country waving a flag of a forward nation. That's crazy. Then the dude goes on his show and says, let's give money. Let's give $200 billion. Hassan Piker says, let's give Ukraine 50 times the money we give Israel. And our Congress will wave their flags. He's full of it. It's fine if your average American citizen waves a flag of another country.
Starting point is 00:49:05 It's fine. The problem is if people that are elected to Congress or that are in the government are doing it, we shouldn't have dual citizens in Congress. We shouldn't have people that aren't born in the United States, like non-citizen that are born in the U.S. in Congress. Pacts that advocate for foreign governments should be far regardless of which country it is. I don't think you get to just be like, I'm an American advocating for a foreign country, therefore I don't got to be far. No, you're
Starting point is 00:49:32 advocating for a far. You're a foreign agent. Get out of here. Go away. Yeah. But the point ultimately is they are not consistent. I can say it like this. I do not think the U.S. should be funding Israel, especially as they're getting us involved in these stupid wars. They're bombing Lebanon when Trump's trying to negotiate with Iran, screwing everything up. They're bombing Syria, which is now affecting a NATO partner, Turkey, who's trying to also move in the region, disrupting our negotiations with Syria. And I'm pissed about that. And I'm also pissed about us dumping 50x the money into Ukraine. Now, there's an argument about the U.S. interests, Cassius Belly.
Starting point is 00:50:05 If the U.S. can make proper arguments for war, I'd like to see them. I don't think they have. These people do not share that consistency. When I say I do not want to fund foreign countries' wars, I mean it. When Hassan says it, he's only talking about Israel. When Ukraine came up, he literally mocked me for saying, the military industrial complex is going us into wars. It wants to maximize profits on these things.
Starting point is 00:50:31 And he's like, yeah, of course. And then I said, see, I even agree with Hassan Piker on this. That's why I don't want $200 billion going to Ukraine. He immediately reverses course and says, yo, what? This dude thinks, oh, Ukraine, you're on your own, boy. Like, that's crazy, man. He's just saying that he's opposed to the military industrial complex
Starting point is 00:50:49 that people like you go, well, I agree. But when I say it, I mean all countries. I don't care if it's Afghanistan, South Sudan, whatever it may be. I don't like that they're dumping the SPR for this war and around. He's only talking about Israel. Do you think that the Democrat Party goes this way? I mean, I feel like if Hassan Piker continues on this streak, it's good for us for the midterms. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I think the reason, we got to be careful about this too. The reason Woke might be coming back might be a Republican play. The WNBA stuff, the trans issue moved the needle heavy. if you're Republican right now, I'm going to give you some sage advice. If I'm advising a Republican on how to win, I'm going to be like, oh, you're cooked. The economy sucks. You got an unpopular war. You need to change the conversation.
Starting point is 00:51:38 It's a culture. You need a scapegoat. Let's talk about weird woke stuff. Let's get costumes banned again. Then start scaring people. Remember COVID lockdowns? Remember how they were firing you from your job because you made it off. color joke you saw on TV one time.
Starting point is 00:51:56 I'll give you a really good example of this. Count Dankula. He made a joke video where he taught his pog to lift its paw as a Nazi pug. And he got arrested for it. Graham Linnehan mocked him for it and called him a Nazi. Graham Linnehan, who made the show Father Ted,
Starting point is 00:52:16 had a joke in Father Ted where there was a piece of tape on the window. And the priest looking out the window sees some Asian guys walking. and he's like, what are they doing? He's like, no, and he starts waving his arms. And then they see him with a little Hitler and moustache, waving his arms and throwing his arms around, and his hair is shaking like he's Hitler.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And I told this to Graham, who's since apologized, but what was so crazy about the woke era, I said, you know what's really sad about that story? Is that Dank probably made that joke inspired by you. You were the guy who did the Nazi jokes on Father Ted. He's the younger guy who watched that on TV and thought you were false. and wanted to be like you.
Starting point is 00:52:55 And then when he did, you mocked him for getting arrested for it. That is the terrifying reality of what woke was. You invoke that memory in people. You'll earn some points in the midterm elections. Yeah. Good point. It's a correlative reality. It doesn't prove, of course, that that's a tactic, but that would be an interesting
Starting point is 00:53:15 tactic. I got to be honest. I mean, that's what's going on, right? That's the culture war in a nutshell. Well, I think the first culture war was emergent. It starts with Gamergate. They made a, what was it, a purple-haired paraplegic woman? No, I'm sorry, a purple-haired amputee in Battlefield and other weird things like that.
Starting point is 00:53:37 And people are like, I'm playing a World War I video game. There's no amputee purple-haired woman fighting in these wars. And then the left was just like, it's a video game, it's fantasy who cares? Now they're, oh man, I hear like the HBO Harry Potter is doing bad, but I don't know. I don't really care. They're allowed to have it. But they make like Black Snape. The first time it comes around, people like me and my friends, I mean, granted, this is 14 years ago, right?
Starting point is 00:54:03 So I'm in my 20s. You know what I mean? I'm in my mid-20s being like, why are they ruining my, like, I'm going to tell you something, guys. Do you know what the green lantern is? Yeah. Green Lantern? Can you name the Green Lantern?
Starting point is 00:54:18 Which one? The Green Lantern. Hal Jordan. Hal Jordan. What was the first green lantern? Was it Guy Gardner? Was he the first? No, it was Alan Scott.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Okay. And let me tell you about... Alan Scott was the first green lantern. And trust me, everybody, it's very important. Very important with the new show lanterns out. Alan Scott just had a magic ring and it wasn't really space stuff. It was just like a magic ring. And then eventually they were like, let's make it something different.
Starting point is 00:54:45 So they made it the core and they made it outer space. That's Hal Jordan, right? So there have been, I think, eight. I think they're eight right now. The eighth. So you had Hal Jordan. He was an Air Force pilot, fearless. Abin Sir gave him the ring.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Do you have fear? Are you afraid? No. And Hal Jordan's a white guy. Then we had, I think, we had Guy Gardner was second, I'm sorry, third. Alan Scott, then Hal Jordan, then Guy Gardner. and Guy Garner is a great character. The fourth was John Stewart.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And this is back in like, what was this? It's got to be like the 80s or something or even earlier than that. And he is a, it was like a black Marine. And no one really cared. I mean, as far as I could tell, like, you know, John Stewart was a great Green Lantern. I loved him in the comics and the cartoons. So do you want to take a guess at the identity and the lifestyle of the current Greenlander?
Starting point is 00:55:45 A gay? No, lesbian. Lesbian. Close. It's a bisexual. Woman with all these. So Jernor Mulane, a bisexual African-American woman is the new character. Okay. This is the kind of stuff that people are just like, you know, what?
Starting point is 00:56:02 Yeah. It's just whoever gets the ring gets to be Green Lantern? No, you're chosen if you're fearless and you have great willpower. The point is, I don't care about a black character like John Stewart. He's a great character. It doesn't matter if he's black. And there's a funny video, a viral video I saw from, there was a, this podcast, a bunch of black dudes were, name a, they had a quiz, name a superhero who doesn't
Starting point is 00:56:25 have black in their name or electric powers. And nobody could do it. Because like, for some reason, most black superheroes have electricity powers or black in their name. Yeah. But don't get me wrong, there's a lot of black superheroes that don't. But a lot of them do. And John Stewart, as Green Lantern, was one of the iterations of Green Lantern that doesn't have electrical powers or he's not called Black Green Lantern. But when they start doing these things, people are like, hey, this is creepy and weird. So the first culture war was like, stop doing this. Then people started losing their jobs.
Starting point is 00:57:00 You said a naughty word, you're fired. Shane Gillis gets fired for SNL for doing an Asian stereotype, even though comedians do it all the time. Sarah Silverman got fired from a movie because years prior, when everyone thought it was funny, she did blackface as a gag. That was the real culture war. Now what I think is happening is we've largely crushed woke. I do fear it will come back if Democrats win. But I think the Republicans want it to come back right now a little bit because they want to freak people out, invoke that memory and then use that to earn points when they don't have anything good to say about the economy. That would be a woke vaccination.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Well, and the Democrats know it too. I mean, AOC was just talking about how woke one was too insane. And she was one of the pioneers of woke one. Yeah. Her film made this point last week. Ask her which ideologies from woke one she currently disagrees with. Right. And there's none.
Starting point is 00:57:54 She agrees with literally everything they always said. Also, that was a very subversive way of her to phrase that. Saying woke one assumes that there is more than one. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She's rhyming us for woke two. Did you guys know that we were just living in the glory days without woke? Because it didn't seem that great.
Starting point is 00:58:10 What year? Well, after woke one. So 2022 to. Now I guess, but we're getting... Well, I got to be honest, the after man. Shane Gillis is selling out stadiums. So it'll be really difficult for it.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Kill Tony is off the charts, popular. Super offensive, too. And, uh... The kids are offensive. The kids are so offensive. I've just, I just spent a month with my nieces and nephews. And their algorithms are just, like, even for me, I'm like, whoa, guys, this is a lot. Did you see?
Starting point is 00:58:37 I forgot the guy's name. We shouted him out when he did the bid. He was on Kill Tony. And he said, uh, he was like, man, I had heard, because I don't follow the news a lot, that they had this rave in Israel, this like big dance party. And then I, people, my friends told him, like, did you see what happened? Like, all those dudes were paragliding in.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And I was like, oh, cool, man. Like, if you don't know what that was, you know. And then he ramped it up as offensive as he could. And he was like, he did a machine gun joke. Dida-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Yeah. You're a lot. You're allowed to be offensive. But it's, so the key is, that's a good one.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Don't become cruel. Because what will happen is you have the opportunity. Woke is stomped now. And it's like, mercy, mercy, you have to give it mercy. If you slaughter and just become, that's how it wins. That's how it gains in strength is if you become evil. If you become, like, devastating. I don't, I don't, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:59:34 Like, the woke is, is begging for mercy right now. I don't agree. You need to give it mercy. Disagree with that. Because you're talking about it. It's not wrong. Who's begging for mercy? The whole woke industry, the young people have had it, dude.
Starting point is 00:59:46 They saw it. They just banned a costume. What are you talking about? That's a minor infraction. They just had to pull down their golf club commercial because a woman fell on the ground. Five years ago, Target wouldn't have pulled it and they would have doubled down and triple down and quadruple down.
Starting point is 01:00:00 What? Weird racist. No, they would have fired 17 people. Are you joking? No, they were intentionally making stuff like that five years ago. And they were trying to sell it and tell people it was normal. Like weird outfits for little...
Starting point is 01:00:14 It's a Sambo outfit, dude. He looks like a minstrel. Someone just missed it. Ian, at peak woke, if they released it, they would have fired seven people. They would have come out and done a public press conference, Mayacopa. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:00:29 I don't know. I do know. It's like it can... He watched it, dude. What are you talking about? I remember when YouTube... I remember looking at the analytics on YouTube on May 1st when they intentionally nuked.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Every channel that was calling this stuff out. They would be like, they'd give you a racist thing. They'd be like, it's not racist. It's racist of you to complain about it. And then they try and sell you these weird kids with jock. And you are not, you are from a different dimension. This is a Mandela thing going on. Do you not live during the woke era?
Starting point is 01:00:57 When the Netflix executive got fired for explaining what racial slurs were to his staff. A Netflix executive was telling staff, these are bad words we don't want on Netflix. And they fired him for it because he said the word. but like, okay, remember with the tucking things you were saying, teaching little kids to tuck their genitals or whatever to be trans-ish. They were intentionally sell. That's like weird. That's not racism.
Starting point is 01:01:21 That's woke. They were selling products for woke people. They were putting the Black Pride, the Progress Pride flag with the Black stripe on it. They weren't selling Sambo costumes. But it's crazy to me that like, like, wokeism will turn on a culture and use it as it's whipping boy. And so it can, it can force sell you like garbage like that. Sorry. No, it can't. What are you talking about? Woke is about getting you to hate the other. It's, uh, so it doesn't really matter who your target is. I would agree with that to a certain respect, but, but just to clarify,
Starting point is 01:01:52 they were not selling anything remotely racist during woke. They were using that against people. That was their weapon. Don't you think the tucking stuff? It wasn't racist. It was, it was, sexist. It was pro trans. Yeah, sexist. That's not, like, forcing sexuality on people. No. It's not. That's part of the whole thing. That's why the pride flag added a black and brown stripe. Yeah, it's because it's encompassing black people and gay people in the same group. And anything that opposes them or stands in their way, they would get fired or cancel. It was, it was virtue signaling. And if they, if they'd be like, no, we're not taking this down because we support the young black man's right to dress up like a Sambo clown. That would be them never happening. And they're not virtue signaling. That's not what they did. They got rid of Aunt Jemima. They got rid of Uncle Ben and they got rid of the Landau Lake. Native American. Because they're saying, okay, fine, I will be told when I am being racist and you're
Starting point is 01:02:43 the one who's allowed to define me as racist and I'm sorry for it. Yeah, I have a different recollection of what woke was like than you. What were you doing during that era? Drugs. Screaming about it night after night. He was sitting, he was at my house the whole time. He knew exactly what was going on. I don't know, man. I just, I believe it goes deeper than it's not I don't know, man. All right, let's jump to this next story from Mediaite. This one's got me, got my gears all grinded up. Signaling to the tribe, Joe Rogan calls out J.D. Vance for odd demons claim from their interview.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Now, this one really grinds my gears. Okay, I don't know if they have the time stand on this one. And he kind of laughed very uncomfortably because he didn't know what to say. I think, with all due respect to Mr. Vance, who I really like as a person. I think he's a very nice guy. I think he's signaling to the tribe. It is.
Starting point is 01:03:40 It is a political polemic. You're not looking at the data. Like he says, I want to look into the UFO issue. I just haven't had the time. I actually understand that. There's a lot going on in the world, you know. But it's also, you've had some time. So maybe, you know, go look into it.
Starting point is 01:03:54 I kind of understand it, but kind of don't. I'm with you. I'd be the first thing. You know, plenty of time to go to church. Like, listen, bro, look into it. Look into it. Exactly. To quote Eddie Bravo.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Look into it. They're referring specifically to. to J.D. Vance referring to aliens as maybe demons. American Alchemy podcast host Jesse Michaels joined Rogan. At one point, on the interview, the issue of Vance came up, specifically his thoughts on aliens possibly being demons. He didn't really have a good explanation for that. I pressed him on that.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And he kind of laughed very uncomfortably because he didn't know what to say. I think that with all due respect to Mr. Vance, I like as a person, I think he's a very nice guy. I think he's signaling to the tribe. I don't necessarily disagree. But when Rogan says, I don't understand. understand it. That is where I'm floored because this is a single paragraph thing to read on the internet or from any tweet. And the issue of aliens and demons has been extremely prominent
Starting point is 01:04:47 in the UFO conversation for the past five years. And that is whether they are aliens from another planet or the things we're experiencing are otherworldly entities of negative influence, i.e. demons, we don't know. Christians who have a Christian theological worldview would argue what you think are aliens you have been convinced are actually demons. They are what we define as demons, malicious, malevolent entities that they are whispering in your ear, something that effect. It's not particularly difficult to understand. And I don't understand how Joe has missed this because it's such an interesting element
Starting point is 01:05:26 of the conspiracy, the cover up, the question of what's really going on. Guys, I watch so much weird, flat earth dumb stuff. I just absolutely love watching all of the conspiracy stuff, the hollow earth, the Agartha, the ice wall. It's fun. How do you miss this one? This is another really big one. That there's a firmament. The earth is flat.
Starting point is 01:05:47 And what you think are aliens are, in fact, demons. But I think they're demons and angels. The aliens. Indeed. That's actually the argument. That what people think are aliens are actually just people experiencing either a manifestation of an angel or a demon. I'll say I don't like, I guess I would call it superstition, but I have met what looked like alien life forms through DMT.
Starting point is 01:06:12 It wasn't just a trip. Like I tripped on acid, I've tripped on mushrooms. It was like a full-on 10-minute conversation with beings or personalities. What's that? What were their names? I never asked. Why? What were the conversations about?
Starting point is 01:06:27 I just wanted to know if they were God. What's that? What are the conversations about? I asked that one of them, are you God? and he went, no. And I was like, what is God? He laughed. Yeah, he laughed because so many people
Starting point is 01:06:35 asked that think that they're gods. It was, kind of like my dad's body, but all I saw was a shimmering, white, purple, all the colors of the rainbow shimmering in a hominid body form. And he was like, man, adult male. And then the other one was adult female. And then the other one was like young man.
Starting point is 01:06:51 It was these three energy forms of like feminine, masculine child. What did they say they were? What did they say they were? When I asked it, what is God? He said, we don't know, but we think it's this. And he put his hands out and all of a sudden,
Starting point is 01:07:04 it showed me a vortex like a spiral and galaxy. I was like, okay. He's like, we think it's the vortex. We don't know. The vortex. Yeah, the function of a vortex reversing entropy, pulling things together, binding atoms together, this force.
Starting point is 01:07:16 It was just too rudimentary. He didn't know either. He was like, I don't know. We don't know. We're working with them to figure it out, maybe. Maybe you were talking to entities beyond the simulation. Maybe you were on drugs. DMT is not a drug. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Drug means dried herb. Sounds like drugs. Your body makes it. I was just inhibiting the inhibitor, basically. Inhibiting the inhibitor? Yeah, well, I was actually dosing DMT, but with, like, ayahuasca, they inhibit, they destroy the inhibitor's ability to stop you from tripping because your normal state is balls tripping, seeing frequency. You've got it confused.
Starting point is 01:07:52 With ayahuasca, the inhibitor is to stop your body from destroying it and passing it through. It binds to it so that it can enter your system and go into your brain. I don't want to speak out of turn because I need the chemistry in front of me, but as far as I know the ayahuasca, the compilation of plants that they make the ayahuasca with causes your body to stop inhibiting the DMT trip, as opposed to just smoking a bunch of DMT and overriding your ability to stop it. No, no. When you smoke it, it goes straight into your blood through your lungs. When you eat it, your body can't process it through your digestive tract. Because it destroys it. Or passes it.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Yeah, right. But then the ayahuasca makes it. not destroy it. When they mix them together, one inhibits and allows it to go into your body and be absorbed. So it's like, it's silly to say there's no angels and demons. Like I don't like, like I said earlier, superstition, but it's, you don't like superstition, but it's silly to say that there's no because I personally experienced it. I still don't, wouldn't call them angels and demons. I mean, are you a demon? If you're mean to me, I could be like, you demon, but I'm like, I'm like, you're you, you know? DMT is broken down by monoamine oxidase in the gut and liver. Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:58 The ayahuasca vine, banisteriopsis, Kaopi, contains M.A.O. Inhibiting beta carbolines, such as harmaline. It temporarily inhibits the enzyme monoamine oxidase, allowing DMT to become psychoactive. That's it. Monomine oxidase destroys DMT in the gut. But if you smoke it, it doesn't happen. So do you think that you agree with conservative Christians that drugs are a portal to demons? No, it's too vague of a phrase because drug literally is translated from dried herb, Drew Egg, it's an old French word. Oh, DMP is not a drug. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:09:37 But it literally is. I don't think any chemical immediately. Okay, taking psychoactive stuff. It's not a drug, Ian? Methan, meth isn't a drug because it's not an herb. BMA. You're talking about crystal math. You're arguing, you're arguing semantics to avoid the question.
Starting point is 01:09:51 And she asked you a question. It's a vague phrase. Well, a lot of Christians think that. A lot of Christians say don't do drugs, don't touch that. stuff because it's a portal into the demonic realm. It sounds like you might agree. They call alcohol spirits. Oh, I think he was talking to demons.
Starting point is 01:10:05 I don't. I wouldn't call them demons. They were waiting for me to give them the cue. Like, are they going to be evil or good? It's up to me when I meet them. If you're afraid of them, they become horrific. And if you're kind with them. You're presuming that all interaction of the demons are going to be anything but charismatic.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Well, why would the demon come to as a grotesque nightmare creature screaming in your face? Because you're afraid. Why would it do that? It's not going to get anything from you if it does. No, it takes on. your perception. Listen, Ian, demons want things, right?
Starting point is 01:10:33 Are they going to get a thing from me going or are they going to appear as a glowing, beautiful creature saying, we'll answer any question you want, Ian. We'll give you the secrets. It might be like, there's a thing to be afraid of. I'm here to protect you. It might do that. Of course.
Starting point is 01:10:48 It's exactly what it would do. It might just dominate you. Beautiful glowing. And he's like, no, no, look, we're not God. You can ask us anything. We'll tell you. And then they lie to you. And you believe it.
Starting point is 01:10:56 My experience with psychoactive drugs is that it does make you more spiritually vulnerable. And if we're going to believe that there's a God and that there is such a thing as good, and for me it's Jesus, then it makes sense that you are also going to be vulnerable to evil. Yeah, I've been a lot about detox right now because literally alcohol, they call them spirits. And it is psychoactive. Alcohol is psychoactive. Oh, yes, it is. A portal to some spiritual entity that is the bacteria, the feasts off of it, the candideeval,
Starting point is 01:11:26 in it. I don't know if it's like microorganisms controlling your thoughts. And so we're like, oh, that's the demon is it's the biological chemistry. I like that theory. But not that every chemical, because at what point do you define something as a chemical and now it's a drug or before it was... Everything that's not an element, any collection of elements that are bound together is some kind of chemical water. Water is a chemical. So for instance, if you ate the marijuana plant out of nature, it's just a plant growing on the ground. A drug is a drug is a a chemical or a substance that changes how the body or mind works. Well, that would be sugar. I mean, that would be water.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Sugar does not change how the body or mind works. No, come on. I mean, have you looked into psychoactive nature of sugar, dude? I'm not wasting time on a semantic. Okay, then you give me some examples of what that is. There's a lot of chemicals that can change the way the mind works that aren't drugs. Yes, they are. You're arguing semantics for no reason. It's not meaningful and nobody wants to hear it. You're saying sugar doesn't change the way you think? It does not. Where did you? I mean, look it up, dude. It's a psychoactive, bro. Am I crazy here? I am going to say it again.
Starting point is 01:12:29 She is psychoactive. Let's pull it up. So what does Joe mean signaling to the tribe? It means that J.D. Vance has heard people say aliens or demons. He's repeating it, but he doesn't understand it. Oh, he doesn't believe that. And I don't think that's unfair of Joe to say, because if Vance could not explain what it means, then he may be signaling to the tribe.
Starting point is 01:12:48 But the idea that Joe afterwards said, I don't kind of understand. I kind of do, but I don't. That's where I'm like, come on. Joe, Joe, you know, I'm not going to put the weight of the world on his shoulders. I got to know everything, but Joe is the kind of guy expected to be like, let me explain that the aliens are demons. He's the guy. He used to be. Legally, sugar is not a drug.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Obviously, we know that. It's considered a food. But it does cause the brain to release opioids and dopamine. It doesn't change how it works. It just makes your brain release something. Changing how it works rewires it or blocks something. Caffeine is a drug. Causing it to release a chemical is changing it.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Everyone knows what the word drug means, and you arguing semantics is a waste of everyone's time. I think most people don't know where the word comes. Who cares? Eating food. You're speaking a common language to give great ideas. I said, I don't think they do. And you're like, well, who cares? Ian, eating food changes the way that your brain works.
Starting point is 01:13:40 And some foods more than others. Well, but it doesn't change the way your brain works. It doesn't change your perception. No, food does not. So you guys are arguing now. No, we're not. We are. Changes the way your brain works.
Starting point is 01:13:52 But it doesn't change the way your brain works. Eating food does not change. what your brain does. It makes your brain do something. Yes, it does, yes. Drugs will... Oh my God, Ian. You just got him to cow, dude.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Of course it changes the way your brain works. No. No, it doesn't. If you're in a bad mood... If I have a box and when I click a button, a chicken comes out, and then I put fuel in it and press a button and a chicken comes out,
Starting point is 01:14:17 it did not change what the box does. If I then dump bleach in it and press a button and a dead chicken comes out, that is changing the way the box works. The chicken comes out faster or if two chickens come out, there's a lot of ways you can change. It is still a function of the thing. It's normal pace. It's one chicken per day.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Dude, this is why people complain. She asked you a question. You know what she was asking you. But instead of just having a conversation, you started talking about mumbo-jumbo. I mean, the simple answer to do I think drugs open gates to spirits or demons is no. That was an easy answer, wasn't it? I can't answer it properly. I could say I can't answer that question and then just be done with it.
Starting point is 01:14:53 I'm trying to clarify the question so that I can answer. normal humans can answer the question. Because most normal humans don't think beyond their fucking hand, dude. No, because they understand colloquial English. That means there is a common understanding of what a word means. And they don't say, please define every, instead of every word, every single time. Let's talk about caffeine. I don't think caffeine opens up portals to demons.
Starting point is 01:15:12 It is a drug. But I think methyl endoxy, MDMA, like... You know that she's referring to psychoactive. Caffeine's a psychoactive drug. No, she's... I'm sorry, psychedelics. Well, it's psychoactive. Psychedelics is like a hardcore psychoactive. You were asking about psychedelic drug.
Starting point is 01:15:24 psychedelic drugs. Like drugs that we learned about in, come on, Ian, drugs that we learned about in health class, don't do drugs. Like weed, like marijuana? Yeah. And you have cannabinoid receptors in your body for a reason. I think that's just like William Randall first. You know what I meant, Ian.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Are you talking about weed? No, no. I'm just talking about psychoactive psychedelics, the group of drugs that we're taught not to do. The hallucinogenics. That's weed is psychoactive. It's a psychoactive drug. It's like the most common. So we're not talking about meth, which wires you or Coke, which wires you.
Starting point is 01:15:59 She's clearly talking about DMT and LSD and psilocybin. She's talking about tripping and experiencing things, not being wired by caffeine, having a cup of coffee in the mind. Okay, from that perspective then, I think demons are ever present, that the malevolent energy fields can move through you at will. So you're more aware of them when you're open higher frequencies, but not that it, like, and you might say just seeing the demon makes you more demonic. But also you may be able to witness and understand it from a distance by seeing it
Starting point is 01:16:31 and then override it and know how to counter it because you've experienced it. So I don't know if it creates possession necessarily. I don't think it necessarily does. I think there's a good chance that J.D. Vance is earnest. I don't think he's just signaling. Well, he should have explained to Joe what it means because Joe needs to know. And if he did know, Joe wouldn't be saying, I don't quite understand it. I mean, someone needs.
Starting point is 01:16:56 And then this other guy, this frustrates me. Jesse Michaels joining in being like, look up the data, man, talk about it. It's like neither. Like, I just, like, he's laughing. They're laughing. And he's like he should have looked into it. And my response is, if someone says aliens are demons and they have on this show, I'm like, what do you mean by that?
Starting point is 01:17:20 What does that mean? Like, explain it to me. I don't understand. And then they explain to me. I go, oh, okay. Like, yeah, yeah, it makes a lot of sense. And, but to be fair, I've been having these conversations for 20 years. I had a conversation, Mike Sernovich and Alex Jones.
Starting point is 01:17:32 We were talking about DMT trips and demons, and Sernovich was explaining very much, these are demons. Maybe you are meeting entities who are trying to trick you. They are, you are not supposed to communicate with them. It is not natural that you can communicate with them. And when you meet them, they are trying to make you do things you're not supposed to do. It might be addiction is a demon tricking you into thinking you want something. I mean, I'm a recovery alcoholic personally. I haven't talked about that publicly, but I'm in a recovery community.
Starting point is 01:17:58 And a lot of people equate addiction to spiritual death and talk about their addiction in terms of meeting something close to the devil. Look, man, everybody, anytime the word Marlboro comes up in conversation, I want to have a cigarette. I haven't had a cigarette since 2019. I am still like addicted to cigarettes. It's not the same type of addiction that doesn't tend to ruin your life from day to day. I can't understand that. Part of me wants to start smoking just to understand what that's like.
Starting point is 01:18:31 I don't recommend it. It sucks because it's subtle. It comes up and you're like, oh, I could go for another one of that. It's like 20 days later. It's so weird. Smoking Marlboro is the greatest. I maybe have like a glass of wine once a year on special occasion or something. My brother quit smoking one day just he decided to do it.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Just stopped. And like, I kind of think I'd do the same thing. Yeah, literally, Chris is just like, I'm not going to smoke anymore. When I quit drinking booze, it was just like, okay, I'm not going to do that anymore. It was no, there was no issue I didn't have withdrawals. It was just like, all right, fine, I stopped. But when he comes to cigarettes, man. You know what I was told is that Asians have very low rates of addiction?
Starting point is 01:19:07 Is that true? I don't know. I kind of feel like they're drunk, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of drinking in Japan, definitely. And there was a time. But in terms of like hard drug use, it's rare. Yeah. For Asians.
Starting point is 01:19:17 It's hard to get it to Japan. So I wonder if it's just like genetic predisposed. I smoked weed one time when I was a teenager. I did not enjoy it. I thought it was terrible. Opioids don't work on me. When I go to the hospital, when they give me opiates, they do nothing. Yeah, I had a kidney stone and it gave, and it was agonizing.
Starting point is 01:19:35 They gave me morphine. It did nothing. And they gave me tortell and said, and then the pain was gone. And I was like, let's go. And then I was saying, I was like, hey, it worked. Yeah, the Vicodinin does nothing. You know, oxycodone, nothing. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Opioids, well, there's a couple things that are nuts. First, I've taken methadone because a friend of mine was recovering heroin addict. He was like, want to try methadone? This is helping me kick my heroin addict. I was like, okay. And I was just like slumped. And I was like, I see where yoga comes from because my body was so loose and rubbery. And three days later, I was like, hey, can I try that again?
Starting point is 01:20:09 He's like, no. And saved me from an opioid addiction, basically, because it was felt not good. It just felt very loose. but I've noticed with drug addiction even hard hard hard intense addiction if you can not do it for a day you can do that over and over again and then by all of a sudden you realize
Starting point is 01:20:25 you haven't had it for six days and you're like okay I mean anything that you're trying like when I quit smoking I just stopped I was we flew to Australia last cigarette I had was before I got on the plane I think it's different for everybody right well I mean at the end of the day it's just a decision right and one of the things
Starting point is 01:20:41 that you try and do is you're like I'm not going to have whatever it is I'm after right now and I'll put it off. And if you can put it off, that one craving, and then hopefully it'll go away. Obviously, things that have withdraw and can mess you up medically is different. But if you're dealing with things that, like, you know, like cigarettes or maybe alcohol, if you can put it off, just say, I'm not going to have this,
Starting point is 01:21:03 I'm not going to have a drink right now. I'm not going to have a cigarette right now. I'll wait. And then the next time you have a craving, you know what? I don't want to have a cigarette right now. I'll wait. I found that I need to rely on a higher power for, the urge to drink because you have alcoholics have an odd mental blind spot when it comes to
Starting point is 01:21:23 the craving for the first drink. It's like your willpower for other things can be so incredibly strong. But when it comes to alcohol, it can be a split second. Boop driving a liquor store. So East Asians, Chinese, Koreans and Japanese, have ALDH2 variant, which alcohol causes flushing nausea and headache and racing heart. They tend to have substantially less alcohol use disorder. And on top of that, large data sets do show that East Asians have extremely low rates of substance abuse disorder.
Starting point is 01:21:56 That's a protein. That's probably why I don't like drinking. I think alcohol tastes miserably awful and it's unpleasant. Man, I love it. There's not a single—I'm Irish. There's not a single alcoholic drink that I think tastes pleasurable in any meaningful way. It's a variant—I wonder if that's a mutative. that got hinged into the DNA of the East Asians at some point.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Of course it is because the Asians have it and other people don't. Or I think they're more likely. It's common in East Asia. Interesting. Well, I don't like drinking. I find it to be awful. But here's the best part. Asians have gambling problems.
Starting point is 01:22:34 It's true. Asians love gambling. And anybody who goes to a casino knows this. You go to MGM National Harbor. Everything's China. Oh, I saw this Asian dude. It's just anecdotal. Just throwing.
Starting point is 01:22:45 it on the roulette table. And it wasn't roulette. It was craps. Just launching thousands and thousands and thousands. And he was with his buddies from work and they were like, he was teaching them how to gamble. This is crazy. Antectotal. He looked Asian.
Starting point is 01:23:01 I'm into the genetics of like, why? Because I wonder if there's a gene that actually disposes Asians to want to gamble. If that's like an ancient those that gambled survived and those that didn't perished or something. No, I think that Well, maybe.
Starting point is 01:23:16 I think Asians like math. I do. And what's fun about playing, like, I like playing Yatsi. There's no money in Yatsi. Everyone's always like a game. No, no, no. I like playing Yatsi. Because you like seeing the rare, you know, five of a kind come up.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Yatsi, whoa, you do it. You get when that pops, that's the feeling I get when I hit the weed. It's that joyous, like, fervent success for a moment. I don't know that, Tim, have you experienced time dilation from getting. I think of Yatsi? Time dilation? Yeah, when you smoke weed, they're,
Starting point is 01:23:49 no, time dilation. The way you perceive time is a little different. And then I get really mad when I'm playing Yatsi and I just can't get anything. Yeah. And I'm just getting wrong with me. So here's a funny, is something funny?
Starting point is 01:23:59 If you ever go, if you ever play Blackjack or Baccarat, players will scream monkey. Have you ever seen this? Oh. So, Dealer's got a six, right? Blackjack. You guys don't play Blackjack, right?
Starting point is 01:24:10 Deals got a six. You've got, let's say you got 18. You know, dealer puts the cup. Cards out, you got an eight. Bam, a jack. You got 18. He's got a six, and you're like, oh man. So everybody makes, you know, they stay, they stay, whatever.
Starting point is 01:24:23 The dealer flips over the face-down card. It's a queen. He's got 16. Players go, monkey, monkey! What they're calling for is a 10. They're saying bust. Monkey means 10-value card. And you want to know where the word monkey comes from.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Can we say it on YouTube? Monarchy. Oh, okay. It comes from the word monarchy. Because Asians were playing. at casinos and they'll go, monarchy, monarchy. And other people heard monkey. Just like Godzilla's name was actually Gojita,
Starting point is 01:24:55 but it sounds like an accent saying Godzilla. You know, I wonder. The boxer rebellion in China was because the opioid trade or the opiate trades from the British poisoning the Chinese people. I wonder if they have a cultural stigma against drugs too, which is part of why they haven't adapted extreme addictions. because they were, there was a severe addiction crisis at the time in the late 1800s in the mid-1800s. I don't know what I just thought.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Yeah, the opium trades. The British were trying to basically enslave the Chinese by poisoning their population. I do want to stress that the monarchy monkey story is, it's a, it's, I don't want to call it apocryphal. It's just, it's so old, no one knows for sure where it originated. Like chop suey. You know the legend of chop suey? No, what's that? You know what chop suey is?
Starting point is 01:25:44 No. Like Chinese food? Oh, okay. You never had chapsui before? No, I'm not a big Chinese food person. The urban legend is that a bunch of truckers or bikers came to an old diner, a Chinese food restaurant. And the guy was like, no, no, no, no, we close, we close. And they were like, oh, come on.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Like, we got, we're hungry. And then he said, all I have left is garbage, chop suey. And they were like, chop suey, yeah. So he shriped all the plates into a pan, refried it back up and served it to him. Delicious. That's the, that's the urban. know if it's true or not. That's what I, I read that on the internet. So, you know, it must be got to be true. Got to be true. It's got to be true. Oh, man. We got big golf news breaking
Starting point is 01:26:23 right now. What is this? This is from earlier. Okay, let's talk about the golf stuff, right? I got to, I got to pull this thing up. I thought I had the Callaway already pulled up, but let's do it. And we'll play the ad, too. The golf channel program. Yeah, let me, let me, let me pull the news up first because we, because I was, I was like, we're not going to do both because we have the, we talked about woke already. But let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. me search for the Callaway ad and show you guys because now apparently did we not play this one? No, but I saw your video. You played it early.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Yeah, all right. So basically, here's the news. The golf brand Calloway had to apologize for an ad showing a woman being shoved to the ground. I just say, who cares? It was a weird ad, though. We'll play in a second. But apparently now there's this news. Golf Channel is delaying the launch of Big Break and Good Good, which was scheduled to premiere tonight
Starting point is 01:27:12 because one of the show's sponsors requested to have its branding removed in the wake of the Callaway Good Good Driver ad. No, this is so manufactured. This is, well, wait, wait, here's the ad. I mean, maybe, look, I got to be honest, the commercial is dumb and makes no sense. You saw it, right? Yeah. So if you were a marketing company and you were like, we want to get a lot of attention right now. So let me just say this.
Starting point is 01:27:34 I'm getting everybody in the poker world is arguing over a post that I made. We were talking about it earlier. and I've got like two or three million views now on my post. And I'm talking to a pro and he's like, listen, like you got to understand like the reason why they're talking about what you said. I basically said that I play low stakes and July I made $100 an hour. And what these pros are like, they think you're saying you play like $100 an hour every day.
Starting point is 01:27:59 You play and you're playing like nine to five. And I was like, yeah, well, I never said that. But you got to understand. Like maybe when you next time you bring it up and I immediately said, why would I stop saying the stuff that makes people talk about me? I'm like, I don't care. I'm not a pro player. I'm never going to be a pro.
Starting point is 01:28:15 I'm not going to ever be respected for being a poker player. I don't care. And I got them all to talk about me on all their podcasts and all their posts. And they're making memes. They're posting photos of me. That's the real jackpot. They're posting memes of me like winning the World Series because I won $200. Like after winning a single Seabet pot, he won the World Series.
Starting point is 01:28:37 And I'm like, They all just keep posting photos of me. So maybe with this Callaway thing, they made a stupid fake ad on purpose to create controversy. I think so. I think it's too heavy-handed. Here's the ad. It's really dumb. Do not touch my new driver.
Starting point is 01:29:06 That's it. That's it. Was there anything else? I can't read the opening text. It says Good Good Studios Presents. They should have a dark bad. That was it. For that reason, 5 million views, all of this crazy, crazy nonsense.
Starting point is 01:29:19 is happening. Because he hit a girl. So fake. This is so fake. Right. Like I said, if you want to get attention, look, they got five million views on the ad now.
Starting point is 01:29:33 It got taken. Now it's got five million views on this one post. Now golf channels bringing it up. I never even heard of Good Good. Now I have. I never heard of Calloway. Now I have.
Starting point is 01:29:42 And a lot of people are going to say, I don't care about this commercial. I'm going to go check out that driver. I heard of Calloway Golf because the Callaway Golf Company manufacturers golf balls right behind the all that remains studio. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:59 This is getting hot because the guy body checked a chick. Yeah. It's like a golf influencer and that the guy was like, I guess, like the co-founder. And he body checked her, I guess. It's a weird commercial. Do like funnier stuff and then it backfired, I guess. Or didn't. I don't think it backfired.
Starting point is 01:30:16 I think this is the intended kid. You know that, you remember Gagnum style? Yeah. You know, that wasn't, that was like that was a not. There was a marketing campaign. Oh, is it really? Yeah, yeah. I don't know exactly how what happened.
Starting point is 01:30:26 They created, the virality was not real. They propped up. So there's a variety of things you can do. I'm not going to get into the fine details of their campaigns. I don't know all the details. But one of the things that we see commonly is a song will become popular because the studio will line up 100 prominent influencers. And they'll say we'll give each of you $10,000. We want you all on the 15th, 60s, and 17th of this month.
Starting point is 01:30:50 to post a video using this song and dancing to it. And then all of a sudden, all their followers are, like, they fake, they make memes. So they'll go to an influencer and say, we want you to do it, we wrote a joke. You are going to steal cookies from your friend or boyfriend or whatever. And then you're going to run and you're going to fall down and spill the cookies. And it's going to be, and you're going to put a title that says, me when I try to steal the cookies and it blows up in my face. Then you're all going to do it, playing the song. and then all your followers will start remaking it,
Starting point is 01:31:22 and all of a sudden the song gets a billion views, and then everyone's talking about the person. So Ghanem's Sye was very much something like that. So people think they're like, oh, man, this song that heard is so great. Now, don't get me wrong, Sai's fantastic, but it was a campaign. The, I think it might have been Scooter Brought,
Starting point is 01:31:38 I'm not sure, but they met with Sye, and they said, we're going to run a campaign to make this song number one, and, you know, we want the rights, and here's our plan, here's how we're going to do it. And he said that Sye was, like, his management was, if you do this, you can, we don't even want the money. Like, make it big. You can keep all the money you make off it. We can make money elsewhere. And they were like,
Starting point is 01:31:58 no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We like, that's muddy. We don't want to get it. We're going to get you paid. But here's the game plan. And they ran a viral marketing campaign. It was not organic. People thought that it was just going viral. But in fact, it was a company making it happen. Chase Hughes is the psychologist that talks about mammalian brain, because a lot of how we interact as the mammal aspect of us, like dogs you can do. But it's one of the four pillars of the mammalian hierarchy is, um, popularity is where you rank in the tribe. And other mammals will see how you rank in the tribe, how the others treat you. And then they'll, they'll either like you or or dis. And I feel like this is what this marketing does. If you see that it's popular, part of your
Starting point is 01:32:38 mammalian brain just thinks it's good because it's popular. It's worth noting that the outrage about this, right? This is part of why the, the, you know, the, you know, the, you know, the, you know, the, you female, I guess, what's it, the hero's journey for females in modern storytelling doesn't really work. You can't do something that hurts females and have people respond positively to it.
Starting point is 01:33:03 You know, you can't have a woman that starts the show and then gets beat down for the second act and then rises above. You lose the audience of that second act. Here's my pitch. Here's my pitch for Calloway. Here's the commercial I would have done. Okay. The woman is with the guys and they're golfing. It's her turn to golf.
Starting point is 01:33:24 She grabs her golf club. And as she's going there, the guys are all chuckling and they're going to be like, this is going to be miserably bad. And then she goes and she misses and spins and falls down. And they all start laughing at her. And then they go, man, women suck at golf, don't they? And then she walks over and grabs the Callaway driver, looks at him. And then just Adam Sandler, happy Gilmores at.
Starting point is 01:33:48 and they go, whoa, eat with Callaway clubs, even women can play golf. I don't think that would have gone over. That would have something you would have seen in the 80s, for sure. Right, yep. Just hammer on the head, like, so obvious. Oh, now I get super strength because I have the right tool. No, it's just Calaway clubs are so good.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Even women can drive. Okay, I wanted to point out, seeing a woman get the shit kicked out of her in a movie with Mad Max, Fury Road, the one with Charlize Theron. She was like the hero of the movie. She's getting the crap kicked out of her by Max. Max and others. But she has like a shaved head,
Starting point is 01:34:20 so it didn't really look like a woman. That's why I did, part of maybe why it did so well. It wasn't like I saw the feminine getting abused. You were more tolerable to watch a woman get abused because her head was shaved. Yeah, because she was masculine. So I wanted to see that angry masculine get beat down.
Starting point is 01:34:37 I was like, yeah. I like punk rock, which means I find things funny that bother people. Like, grow up, stop getting so offended about things. When you get all mad and I think this is true for a lot of people, especially people vote for Trump and 4chan. When you're outraged by something that's meaningless, like the Halloween costume, I want to make fun of you for that. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:35:01 So like when I see stuff like this, I actually think a lot of people are going to start mocking this. Maybe they'll make their own versions where it's just they make fun of the commercial by beating women or something. They're going to be like, oh, I'll make one better, you know. when I see people get really upset about what I think is irrelevant stuff, I have a choice to make. Do I just like just dig in on them and give them more of what they seem to be of what they're afraid of to try and snap them out of it or to ruin them? Or do I completely dismiss them? Like do you ridicule the people that are in pain over nothing that are freaking out about the dumbest stuff? Or do you just ignore them?
Starting point is 01:35:42 Depends how good of a person you want to be that day. I feel like, I mean, you have to have compassion for them, right? I'm a fight club fan. I liked when Brad Pitt dumped the lie. What did he do? He poured lie on his hand. Is that what it was? And it is like, you know, you can try and black out the pain or you can accept it and then
Starting point is 01:36:04 you can put water on it to make it worse or you can use vinegar to neutralize the burn or whatever. And I don't literally think that's a good idea or anything like that. I'm just saying the idea of it was when you've experienced. very serious pain, these things roll off your back. You know, it's, it's very much, you know, you'll play guitar, right? When you start playing guitar for the first time, your fingers, they hurt. And then after like, you know, a year, nothing will ever hurt your fingers again.
Starting point is 01:36:32 The skin's just dead. And it's funny because I'll even explain it like, you probably can't even tell my fingers are super calloused. But they're so deeply cows over a long period of time. They're just permanently, permanently armored for playing the guitar. I just, I, to be, to be fair, like, if I play guitar for like four hours straight, I probably bleed. But just in general, nah, I just, you know, first I started playing guitar, it hurts, you're pressing your fingers against the strings.
Starting point is 01:36:55 And that's an analogy for just life in general. Most of these woke people are soft, frail, squishy. The kind that wear gloves to the gym. I like, um, the, the archetype of the warrior poet because of that. Like, they go to combat. They see horror. They lose people. in the most vicious way they kill.
Starting point is 01:37:15 And then they come back and they're so calloused, but still they feel like somehow you can use the callous to your advantage as a protective buffer against nonsense, but also you can see what really matters. It's a question of does it matter? And most of these things just literally don't. They don't matter. So for example, did you guys hear the story about the guy who allegedly dumped his fiancé
Starting point is 01:37:41 because she supported Lindsay Clancy? And there's a fact check. And it's like, fact check, false. In fact, you can't disprove it because it's an anecdote from a random guy in the internet has said my best friend just did this. And I'm like, you didn't fact check it. They responded with, we found no clear evidence the story was true, therefore it's false. And I'm like, that's not correct.
Starting point is 01:38:00 But here's the important thing. I will absolutely, and I have no problem to say, yes, a man dumped his fiance two weeks after their wedding because he found out she supported Lindsay Clancy. And I can argue for a couple of reasons. People fight all the time. People break up all the time. And people break up for stupider reasons than that. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Like, dude didn't flush the toilet. And it's like the 17th time. And she's finally like, is this how it's going to be? I don't want to do this. And then it escalates. And then everything spills out. And it's like, well, you leave the windows open and we got bugs.
Starting point is 01:38:32 And then you know what? I'm done. It's off. If you came out, we're like, I know a guy who ditched his fiancee because she didn't flush the toilet. It's not just the one thing that cause it. But here's the ultimate reason why I don't care about a fact check. The story doesn't move the needle.
Starting point is 01:38:44 It's not going to get someone elected. It's not going to create policy. It doesn't matter. I'm not mad. I don't care. That's an interesting story. And I'm seeing people respond to this post. They're like, prove it.
Starting point is 01:38:54 I'm like, who cares? Are people really getting at you for that? No, no, no. I didn't say it. Oh, okay. The guy who post it, people are commenting prove it. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I'm sitting there being like, why?
Starting point is 01:39:04 Yeah. Bro, if I made a video and said, my friend just did a sick backflip and they're like, prove it. I'd be like, no. I can guarantee as a woman that, I mean, the Lindsay Clancy case is causing a lot of fights right now. If there's this... If there's this many women who are dying on the hill that this woman is somehow a victim,
Starting point is 01:39:22 any reasonable man is going to, especially one that might have children with her is going to go... No, she's a victim. I think she's a victim. Of psychiatry? Of big pharma. I just think she's guilty of murdering her kids. Yeah, no, I think the system failed her and the system failed the children, obviously,
Starting point is 01:39:37 but I think she's guilty of murder. Well, I don't think it failed her. I think it afflicted her. I think the pharmaceutical companies are running commercials and telling doctors to push psychoactive drugs on women, largely women, and they drug them from teenagers. And that's fair. And I respect that argument. And she deserves to go to prison or worse for what she did to those poor children.
Starting point is 01:39:58 If you, listen, if you take a bunch of crazy-ass pills and then get in a car and run over a kid, you should go to prison. Yes, but it's not her fault. She was on crazy brain drugs. I don't care. She drove a car inhibited. Here's my argument. If you drive a car and run over a kid, we call that murder.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Vehicular homicide, whatever. If you do it on drugs, it's an aggravated charge because you're also under the influence. You get additional charges. So my argument for Lindsay Clancy is if these ladies are right, she was a victim of big pharma, she was on all these crazy drugs. They should increase the charges. It should be a more severe penalty to commit a crime while under the influence. That being said, I don't want to wash away the fact the pharmaceutical companies in this country are evil and pump people full of drugs and are burning our civilization to the ground to turn a
Starting point is 01:40:48 profit. Yeah, and psychiatry is such a mystery, too, with the way that drugs interact with one another. And the fact that she was in an inpatient, she wasn't even, she wasn't even diagnosed with postpartum psychosis. She was diagnosed with postpartum major depressive episode. But she needed to be monitored over a long period of time. You can't just go and say, oh, yeah, I'm not suicidal and I'm not homicidal and be let out. That's absolutely wild. Apparently, the ad is much longer than that. Oh. And, uh, interesting.
Starting point is 01:41:20 Okay, well, let me play the full. Libby just texted me. She's like, no, no, no, the full ads longer. Baste. Well, I can't wait to see. Harder your hair looks crazed, by the way. And a fireball, dude, that is hot. Oh, thanks.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Like a fireball. Take it. A licking of flame. It's not even popping up. This is so ridiculous. Yeah. So is this girl like the female version of Luigi Mangioni? Like, she was a victim.
Starting point is 01:41:42 I have empathy. It sounds like there's something related to the true crime. I don't know. My neighbor has been storing stuff in her garage and she came over and I asked her about, or she asked me about this and she like is on the whole Patrick did its side. And it's like, what? How can you say that? I was just generally interested because her defense literally admitted that she, you know, did it.
Starting point is 01:42:05 The key factor in the Luigi Mangione fan stuff is thirst. Women are thirsty. Yeah, they're thirsting after him. Yeah. You know, and obviously there's the political aspect that people are like, oh, I agree with his politics. The key factor in the Lindsay Glancy stuff is lunacy. Okay, here's the full ad. Here's the full ad.
Starting point is 01:42:31 He driv. That's what I saw. Do not touch my new driver. I don't get to make deals. Johnny, no. No. Johnny, no, don't do it. No.
Starting point is 01:42:52 No, no, no, don't. It's over. He's gone. What's happening? That's the stupidest commercial I've ever seen in my life. I understand why they cut it. I don't understand. They deleted it not because it was offensive,
Starting point is 01:43:25 because they were embarrassed. And then at the end, all of them looked confused, and they were obviously mocking. That's what they call it. If you pretend to seem a certain way, like, I'm so angry, can you tell? They just needed one guy that looked confused and everyone else just to see.
Starting point is 01:43:38 Is that a real ad or was that somebody just? This is stage. It's got to be a campaign. This is a campaign. You know what I'm going to do, I'm going to, Ian, we're going to have you eat beef to offend vegans, and then I'm going to apologize for it. And then we're empirically, I'll just have like havoc dripping down my face. No, you're just going to have a hot dog. You're going to eat a hot dog on camera.
Starting point is 01:43:58 What's it? I said you're going to eat a hot dog on camera. It better be healthy. And then I'm like, oh, we took it down because it was a fan. Not these days. It's a hot dog. No. He'll actually, we'll make a hot dog out of lentils to offend cattle ranchers.
Starting point is 01:44:13 Yeah, spirulina. I'm getting my full 20 aminos in this protein. This is stupid. Yeah, it's a really, really dumb. I mean, it was a bad, dumb ad anyways. I don't want to just cut it where they seemingly did. It would have been better. It would have been funnier.
Starting point is 01:44:30 I'm sorry, for something like this to be good, it's got to be more extreme. Yeah. Like, here's my. vision for how you make this work. So the woman goes to grab the thing and then the guy screams at top of it and then he shoves her into a meat grinder. And then he grabs it and he goes, no one touch it. And then the other guy goes, this is ridiculous. What? And then he grabs it and he starts just whacking people with it. Just beating him a death. Yeah, I thought he'd be like, oh, now I get it. I thought she's like, don't touch my driver. And he goes and grabs it. And then
Starting point is 01:45:04 he's getting ready. And she becomes a zombie that attacks him and kill him. kills him and she's like, and it's like, Callaway, drivers for everyone. I thought I was going to start beating her with the driver. I was a little concerned. I think my commercial was better because it's like you're trying to advertise a driver. You know, like, Calaway drivers are so good. Even women can play, you know. It's good.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Only if it was like old timing. But like, I agree. And the reason why that would actually work and they wouldn't take it down is because the sexism is the butt of the joke. The joke is they're mocking the idea. And then I'd make the commercial. And when they all got butt hurt and said, sexist and be like, yes, we're mocking the sex.
Starting point is 01:45:40 It's meant to parody a sexist commercial. Like, thank you and have a nice day. Everyone's always mad about everything. Just ban everything. No ice cream. You can't have anything. Whoa. Ice cream. No ice cream. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:45:51 Well, that's where my head's had. Reducing addiction. I had ice cream today. Really? Oh, yeah. Are you still fiending from the sugar? No, I wasn't feigning from sugar. Bro, while I was in the bathroom, I was thinking. It's like an active drug of sugar.
Starting point is 01:46:04 And this is a throwback to the last story, but you should watch that if you're watching the clips. We as Americans have the world in their palm of our hands right now. If we can overcome our addictions, we're going to be all right. But there's so many. He uses the most addiction,
Starting point is 01:46:19 or at least uses the most substances. Nah, most people are you talking about foods. You use the most substances at a boss. Maybe. I don't know about substance. It's a vague term, you know?
Starting point is 01:46:31 Yeah, now we'll get into the semantic. They're like way more messed up than I am. Carrot cake. Yeah, it's just a sweet. You know the history of carrot cake? No, but I've heard it before. The military had to get rid of carrot pulp. It had no one's going to eat carrot pulp.
Starting point is 01:46:48 And so they don't want to waste calories either because carrot pulp is carrots. So they made a spice cake and then mixed the carrot pulp into it so the troops would eat it. And that's actually kind of awesome. It's great. Cream cheese frosting with that? I know, yeah. I don't know if that story's true. But again, that's one of those stories that everyone tells you like good use of carrot pulp.
Starting point is 01:47:05 Yeah, I would still, I would put much. on Ian using the most substances out of anyone here. I do like a nice fast-fasting day, though, of like nothing but long. As soon as the camera turns off, Ian puts his hair back, puts on his suit jacket, he's got a British accent. Stop telling them. He's playing a character, guys. He's playing a character.
Starting point is 01:47:23 I thought you were for a long time. Well, I'm playing a role. I'm playing the support role on the show. I want to heal. No, I'm talking about a different thing. In life? I know. I used to think you were like a method.
Starting point is 01:47:34 Oh, okay. So it wasn't invented. But carrot-based desserts were popular during World War II because they needed to make use of carrot pulp. Yeah. And then, yeah. But carrot-based puddings and carrot cakes had been around for a long time. No shade on carrot cake. Carat cake's amazing.
Starting point is 01:47:53 Delicious. Oh, good. Zucchini cake is good, too. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just had zucchini brownies, dude. They're top. It's amazing. Yo.
Starting point is 01:48:00 So, so. There's a, we talked about this company that does frozen cottage cheese. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I want to get one, but it's got a terrible name. We should remember because of how bad the name was. Yeah, it was really bad. Frozen Cotachio.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Proko? Great macros on it. Froco? No. No. No, Froko is a good name. It had some stupid name. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:20 Like, like, or something. S-P-T-H-L-K. Was that the name of it? Maybe. Smear, smear case. Yeah, that's right. Ew. What are you?
Starting point is 01:48:32 What are you? You made that up. Ew. Yeah, so. In your case, that's disgusting, dude. I feel bad because I love the idea. It sounds amazing. Super good for you, high protein.
Starting point is 01:48:46 I know, it's like super high protein, good stuff. It's blended, so it's not like curds. It's like ice cream. But have you guys seen the Liquid Death commercial where they're all drinking pee? No. Guys, I want to help you out with marketing. I want to help you out with marketing. The one thing you never do in marketing,
Starting point is 01:49:05 is create an association with your product. A negative association with your product. So I'm going to say this. I got a rag on Club WPT. That's a world poker tour guys. And I'm friends with some of these guys. We'll start with Liquid Death where I was at. They did a campaign called Send Us Your P
Starting point is 01:49:23 where a bunch of people are marching through a field with urine and some people drink it. And they said send data centers urine because they want to offend data centers, you know, and piss them off. The commercial doesn't actually say, They don't do it because it's illegal to do. They later on in an interview, I guess, said, no, no, we don't want anyone to actually do it.
Starting point is 01:49:40 But they just told people to commit crime. So here's the problem. In that commercial, it is disgusting. They're carrying bags of pee. It's not literally, who knows what it really is, but a guy drinks it. So now, as much as I already had that beef with Liquid Death guy, they did change their slogan, so I don't really care. I'm over it. They did.
Starting point is 01:49:59 They changed it to death. I debated the CEO of Liquid Death because there's plastic in the cans. And he said, okay, we'll change it to death to plastic bottles. He did. He did. Respect. But I got to say this. Every time now I think of liquid death, I think of urine and the smell of a public bathroom. Because they have people walking around.
Starting point is 01:50:20 It starts with, I think it's Travis Kelsey, urinating in a bathroom. Okay. I don't like the smell of bathrooms. And you've created a negative association with your drink, your drink with the smell and look of urine. that's that's bad marketing so um club w t poker um poker company the one of the biggest poker companies there's like two big companies wispy w pt they took out a massive vagus ad of a woman sitting on a toilet holding the phone playing poker playing online now when people say w pt i smell a bathroom i smell a public urinal you don't associate your product with these things you don't do
Starting point is 01:51:01 that. So smear case. It's one of those words that sounds dirty, but it's not. It's like manhole. It's because of PAPS. Or penetrate. Oh, PAPSME. That's what I was like, why is that? Yeah, or a lot of things that smear that you're just like, it's a reference to bathroom stuff.
Starting point is 01:51:17 It's like, ew, what did you put in the smear jar? Well, what do you think? There's a few fluids that I could have chosen. What is that name? I'm sorry, guys. I got no beef with this company because I love your product. I haven't tried it, but just the ideas. is amazing. Literally, I wish I came up with frozen cottage cheese. It's brilliant. High protein, low sugar, frozen dessert.
Starting point is 01:51:38 Huge rebranding. What they called it smear case? I want to try it. Why couldn't they just call it Froco? Why couldn't it just say Froko? Cottage chill, you know. That's awesome. That's brilliant. We should do it. Cottage chill, bro. That's amazing. We got to launch that now. I got to tell Mark, we need to come up with cottage. I would love to buy this. Strawberry, peanut butter, and chocolate sounds absolutely vanilla. You can get it at, what was it? Moka Joe Froko.
Starting point is 01:52:06 It's been like Leesburger or something. Yeah, we looked it up. Far away, though. It was like Whole Foods or something like that. Next time we go down there for Korean barbecue, we should stop and grab one of these smear cases. And you could do cottage chill for dinner. Because cottage cheese is sweet and savory.
Starting point is 01:52:22 It works with both. So if you mix it with like a meat, it might be a good dinner, like a protein bowl that you could eat. You could smear it on. But I don't know if you could. You could just smear it all over yourself. I don't know if you would market it as both sweet. If you could pull it off.
Starting point is 01:52:35 I just, I'm sorry. I just asked JetGPT. Is Smearcase possibly the worst name for a product ever? And it said by modern English standards, smear case is an astonishingly bad name for a food. The funny part is that it didn't originally sound disgusting. Smear case from Pennsylvania and Dutch for smear case. It means to spread or smear cheese. It means spreadable cheese.
Starting point is 01:53:00 What's the case? Like casing? I think, I don't know. The word, Shemir, case meat is cheese. Oh, okay. Oh,
Starting point is 01:53:08 it's, it's, they, they made a derivative of spread cheese to smear case because smear case
Starting point is 01:53:15 is Pennsylvania and Dutch. No one knows that. Yeah, that's not going to work. You're a modern English speaker with no context, smear case sounds less like a dessert and more like something
Starting point is 01:53:25 a dermatologist would diagnose. Would you like a slice of our homeowner? Smear case is an absolutely catastrophic sales pitch. Oh, but you made it at home? All right, we're launching cottage chill. Let's go. It's branded. It's done.
Starting point is 01:53:39 You heard it. The trademark is ours. We are officially using it, and I've already instructed Mark to begin the process. I'm not going to give away all the ingredients, but a nice coconut sugar or maple syrup. You do a light honey. I'm in. A light honey. You can warm the honey up so it dissolves easier.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Well, yeah, you blend it. And then what happens is you're going to have about 10 carbs per serving. It's not very sweet. but it's going to taste good and be healthy. And you know what I can't stand? I make home-in ice cream. It's not hard to do. There's a couple different things you can do.
Starting point is 01:54:07 You use sweet and condensed milk, some heavy cream, and just mix it up. But you don't got to use sweet and condensed milk. I'll just whip cream and I'll use a couple of egg yolks. And I put like one teaspoon or tablespoon of maple syrup in it, barely sweet at all. It doesn't need it. Especially when you put strawberries in it. What I can't stand is you buy ice cream and it's like 50 carbs per serving when it doesn't need to have all that sugar in it. You can always add sugar in it.
Starting point is 01:54:29 You can't take it out, though, once in the mid. Same with salt. We got to grab your rants and chats, so smash that like button, share the show. Don't forget, we're going to the uncensored portion of the show in a few minutes. Let's grab what you guys have to say. I can't read the first Rumble rant because someone rated the stream, so it'll take about a minute or two for that weird little pop-up to disappear. Occam's after shave says, I'm Irish. We invented Halloween. Sam Hine, as I say it?
Starting point is 01:54:53 The kid's costume resembles my hometown's football kit, Gaelican Soccer. Our nickname was the Flintstone, so we can approve. appropriate American culture too. Perfect. McBeefraud says Space King episode five comes out this Saturday. It's made on Flash gets on YouTube. Their show is made with love and autism. Praise B. Space King. Did you guys see the Mary Sue CGI that dude's making that's starting to go viral?
Starting point is 01:55:17 No. Callan posted it. I want to show this. We're there. We're there. I said it was going to be a year or two, and I'm just, I can't believe how fast AI is developing. This dude made a 10-minute short short film, CGI on the style of Disney and Pixar. And it probably took him a half hour to an hour to do. To be fair, he maybe have worked a little harder on that to refine it. But the one that I watched, Part 4, Mary Sue, it's an evil villain, Serafina. She has fire powers. Eldon the wizard and Bram, the heroic man, and Mary Sue are trying to stop her. She's charging the
Starting point is 01:55:51 Ember Heart in the Forge. Once every thousand years, she has to charge the Emberhart to restore her powers. And in this, they try to stop her. But Mary Sue, think she's just misunderstood. So right at their greatest moment, when they're about to win, she gives the villain, she says, you don't know her story, she's probably not evil at all. And then the guy's like, she burned down an orphanage. And she's like, well, but you're not looking at her. You're looking at what she's done.
Starting point is 01:56:15 He's like, exactly. So she gives them the, she gives the witch the necklace back. She comes back to life and full power, kills the guy instantly. And then, or she doesn't kill him, she nearly kills him. And but this guy made this film in AI, it's insane. What do you think? What AI did he use? Probably C-Dance, but I don't know for sure.
Starting point is 01:56:32 What do you think he spent monetarily on being able to... Ten minutes, it might have cost him a couple thousand dollars. To generate ten minutes worth of... Yeah, I'm going to show you guys in the uncensored portion of the show, because I don't know if you guys saw the podcast thing I posed with, where the women turned into pigs. Yeah, I saw that. A screenshot.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Because I was just... I've got a bunch of these things I've been goofing off with. And some of them don't work. Like, they speak gibberish. For some reason, one of the podcast hosts is Bob Odenkirk. It is. and he's speaking gibberish. It's like he's saying not real words.
Starting point is 01:57:03 But one of them is really funny where they turn into chickens. So I'll show you how. Sea dance is just, it's nuts. 30 second, we'll render one in real time and I'll show you just how insane it is. I would say this. It takes, it's $8 for 30 seconds. The problem is you have no guarantee what comes out is actually what you asked. So it does take a decent amount of work.
Starting point is 01:57:30 I would argue that each 30 second scene using references from each other to rerun to the next one, you could probably, it's going to cost you $8 per 30 seconds, but let's say you try three or four times. So let's just say it's about $30. So $60 for a 10-minute short film. That's a conservative estimate. Now hold on. I don't think so. I think that's actually...
Starting point is 01:57:53 You can get it in four takes. I had a hard time with Chet. Yes, with C-Ds. Absolutely. Because you use image references. You put an image and say, from this image, have them do this. And so let's set the range at sometimes a single take works, but it's more likely to be two or three. And on the worst case scenario could be five or six.
Starting point is 01:58:11 So let's put it in the, let's put around four. Right. So let's just say, 600 bucks for 10 minutes. Let's say you want to do 100 minutes. Right? That's a good time for a feature length. 6,000 bucks for a feature length, CGI movie like Disney or Pixar. And you can outsource that.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Yeah. One person could do it over a weekend. They could outsource the opportunity to 10,000 people on the internet and fund it. And everyone would get, they'd get to sign up early. They get their credits. Paramount funds it. And then one of those scripts is going to kick. And then Paramount owns it. El Hefe Lopez says, I think I watched Connor McGregor beat the is out of Jack Jillon Hall last night with that driver.
Starting point is 01:58:50 Jake Jillenhall. That movie was awesome. I don't know what is. Roadhouse with Jake Jillen Hall and Connor McGregor. Oh. That was so good. But their fight scene? I love that movie.
Starting point is 01:58:59 I was so good. The original back in the day. Well, I said Jake Gyllenha one. It's funny. Is it worth it? It's, yeah, like Jake Gillen Hall is a retired MMA fighter and he shows up and it's just, it's so good. He's amazing.
Starting point is 01:59:09 It's got, it's got like the opening scene at the bar is real great. He's like, is there a hospital around here? And they're like, what? He's like, is there a hospital nearby? They're like, what are you talking about? And he's like, do you have insurance? It's good. It's good.
Starting point is 01:59:20 I love it. That movie was great. Do you have insurance? What? I don't want to enjoy you too much. All right, we'll grab a couple more here. Let's see. TM Howard says the script was the driver takes over your body and makes you go crazy.
Starting point is 01:59:35 Right. They needed a visual reference, though, because it was too small in the final product. Scorsese would agree with me. And Howard said, as a golf fan and a good, good fan, the ad sucked, but the video show was not the full ad, which I think is why this got circulated so much. Most people just saw the small clip of it. Right. The guy just hits the woman. He's like, don't touch my stuff.
Starting point is 01:59:57 All right. Pete, the penguin, says, look up the adventures of Handyman on in Living Color. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. So good. Handyman. Was that one racist?
Starting point is 02:00:09 He had a stand. Well, no, but it's definitely not easy. It's really funny. He's handicapped. Oh, I get it. All right, everybody. We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show, and we're going to watch naughty videos made by artificial intelligence.
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Starting point is 02:01:09 Okay. I'll double check. I'll be back on Friday. Ian's betrayal. So the comic, the treatment for Ian's betrayal, the story of how Ian becomes a redcoat is getting done. That'd be a fun. I can't wait to see it. a fun sea dance thing.
Starting point is 02:01:23 We're gonna make comic books. And we've got, we've already got like three books planned, the treatments for the Ian's betrayal story. The first, Ian betrays the minute men during the War for Independence. And then the next one is he comes back as a zombie or a litch, you know.
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