Timcast IRL - Xi Jinping SUFFERED STROKE Says Viral Rumor, Video w/ Clyde Do Something

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

On this episode Tim & Ian are joined by Clyde Do Something to discuss Rumors erupting that China's Xi may have suffered a stroke during BRICS summit The Pentagon preparing for warfare on & around the ...moon Anthropic roasted for wanting a woke group to oversee AI development NYC Mayor suing Trump over immigration laws Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) https://carterbanks.komi.io Guest:  Clyde Do Something @ClydeDoSomethin (X) Clyde Do Something is a Canadian-American online political and current-events commentator who describes himself as a mechanic and produces videos discussing U.S. politics, culture, and news. His commentary generally approaches political issues from a conservative perspective.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 A viral rumor is circulating that Xi Jinping suffered a stroke at the Brick Summit, fainted, and was emergency evacked back to China. Now, of course, we're seeing a counterclaim. These community notes are popping up saying, no, that didn't happen, but they're not actually approved. So we don't know for sure. But we'll check into this. It may be nothing. Modi apparently was speaking and then turns over and you can see the camera and something's happening.
Starting point is 00:00:29 He's like, is he all right? And then all of a sudden we get this post from this Chinese guy, saying he suffered a stroke, he's being rushed out of there. It's got like 10 million hits. And of course, the challenge with all of this is dissidents in China have every reason to claim that Xi Jinping is sick, right? They don't like the guy they want him out. At the same time, the Chinese Communist Party is going to lie and say he's fine if he isn't. Needless to say, the rumor is over 10 million views. Everybody's talking about it as it pertains to the BRICS nations. Of course, this does have some interf-this will result in some overlap with the U.S., the Iran war,
Starting point is 00:01:03 what is currently happening, especially with what's going on in Ukraine and whether Russia, South Africa, et cetera, will ever be involved. Now, we also heard the South African president was also sick and left. So, oh, it's kind of weird. We'll talk about that. Then we got more news. Apparently, a Democrat super PAC was caught paying voters. Those are the allegations. We will talk about that. We got a lot more. The DOJ is going after these homeless fraudsters, I believe it's in California, and we're glad to see it. And when I mean by homeless fraudsters is these fake companies. that are funneling money through these fake homeless NGOs. So of course, my friends, we will get into all of that and more.
Starting point is 00:01:41 So smash that like button and subscribe. Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Clyde do something. Thanks for having me. It's really a pleasure. I've been, can you hear me? No, yeah, who are you? I was going to say, who are you? What I do?
Starting point is 00:01:54 So who am I? I'm a Canadian, former Canadian YouTuber. I moved to Texas just recently. I've been covering a lot of the stories that have been happening in Canada. and what's been going on there because it's actually really unbelievable. I come to the United States and I tell people what's actually happening
Starting point is 00:02:10 and they don't believe it. They absolutely don't believe it. Like your government kills more people die in Canada from assisted suicide than anything else? Is that true? It's absolutely true. Something like that. Maybe it's not number one, but it's like way up there.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Here's what it is. What it really is is the dangers of socialism at the end of the day. You know, you convince people, you know, we need a safety net. We need these kinds of things to protect. you know, the downtron and all of this stuff. Canada went with the decision to do socialize
Starting point is 00:02:37 medicine. And when it comes to socialism, they did it in more of a, you know, true to socialism way, where a lot of other people, or a lot of other countries have adopted this idea of, you know, have a social safety night when it comes to medicine. So, you know, you can, you can, if you can't afford it, they'll have Medicaid, you know, here in the United States or they have NHS in England. But there's always a private option. There's always somewhere else you can go. Canada is more true to the socialist model where it's illegal to actually have these hospitals, private medical systems, except for some carve-outs for the French people in Quebec.
Starting point is 00:03:16 So it's crazy. Now, at the end of the day, what ends up happening is you have a system that is inefficient and people can't get served. So a number of years ago, they figured out, hey, well, you know, there's a lot of people fighting for this idea of euthanasia. We could use this as a way to save money in the medical system. And it really is that perverse. Well, you know, maybe someday soon we will liberate the Canadians. Trump will be greeted as a liberator when we free them from their shackles. Great to have you.
Starting point is 00:03:45 It's going to be a lot of phone. Get the boys hanging out. Yeah. I get concerned about the attack free Canada rhetoric. I mean a free Canada. I am also concerned about it. I mean, it's poor Canadians. You know, free Canada.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I think Americans think it's funny when Trump's like, we're going to invade Canada. But Canadians are like, oh, my God, that country's capable of killing anyone. and they think we're really going to attack right now. We don't need to attack. They'll welcome us as liberators. Have they already? Whatever happens, Canadians cannot vote in American elections. Oh, me.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I spent the last 70 hours. They can vote in their own, but we oversee them. I spent the last 70 hours of the last four days or the last 90 building AI. I'm so ready to implement what I understand through prompts and console commands. It's crazy on socialism, like you're saying. It's wild how it always turns free markets
Starting point is 00:04:30 into black markets. Because when you can't actually get something for free, you have to go find it if they make it illegal. But yeah, we got to talk about it. Because human trade is a natural function of physical reality and trying to stop it is impossible because people will trade either way. It's just when you sell someone that can't sell their meat from their farm,
Starting point is 00:04:47 you've made it a black market. And so this is the way it works in Canada, right? And I think the joke is that Canada does have a tour to your system. It's, you know, once you can't get your service in Canada, you go to the United States. There you go. That's really what a lot of people do. I actually have some stories in that regards.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I know some Canadians I'll talk to you about that. Phil, of course, is hanging out. Yeah. How you doing everybody? Carter's here. Yeah, yeah. Before we get into the news, my friends, I've got a great sponsor for you. It is keet.io, k-e-e-e-t-e-tt.io-slash-T-E-Cast-I-R-L.
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Starting point is 00:06:24 But let's jump to the news, my friends. We've got this from the Times of India. She suffered stroke and fainted at Brick's Summit, claims China Democracy Party Chief Post gets community noted. It in fact did not get community noted. It does have proposed community notes, but in fact itself does not have anything verified. And so this post originally in Chinese says it is rumor that Xi Jinping fainted at the Brick Summit hosted by India. after emergency treatment by his accompanying medical team, he ended his visit to India early and returned to China on a special plane.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Upon the plane's arrival at Beijing Airport, the Beijing authorities did not arrange for a large group of officials to greet him, nor did they organize a welcome ceremony instead. The military helicopter was used to transport Xi directly to Beijing's 301 hospital for emergency treatment. It is said that after diagnosis by the expert team at Beijing's 301 hospital, it was determined that Xi Jinping had suffered a severe, ischemic stroke that is a transient cerebral infarction because Xi Jinping feared that the Indian side
Starting point is 00:07:26 might obtain information about his health. He refused emergency treatment at an Indian hospital and instead took a special plane back to Beijing for care during the flight as there were no conditions for surgery. The medical team could only administer conservative treatment to sustain Xi Jinping's life. As a result, he missed the golden window for emergency care and surgery. Even at Beijing's 301 hospital, if Xi Jinping undergoes surgery for treatment, there's a high like include of severe sequelae, is how you say that? I don't know what that is. At present, the Beijing authorities are still unable to confirm whether Xi Jinping can recover himself before the visit to the United States. So they're waiting to see if it will be necessary to cancel the late
Starting point is 00:08:04 September trip to the U.S. Now, we don't know for sure. There are proposed notes that basically say, one, this is not confirmed, we don't know. And another saying fake news, he had already departed New Delhi on the 13th and returned home. So they're saying he wasn't even there. But I think we actually do have the video of Modi. And there's not really much to see. Just that Modi is speaking is interrupted by something. And there's... Is it okay?
Starting point is 00:08:38 Is it okay? Something happens you can't really see on the camera. It says she with an arrow pointing to it. We don't know for sure. This could just be a clever manipulation by, let's say she really did leave. But they do have a video of someone fainting. sowing doubt on the leader of China is extremely powerful, especially right now, as you've got Chinese interests lining up, U.S. interests lining up the U.S. at war with Iran. You've got interests
Starting point is 00:09:07 from the BRICS. and obviously with Russia going against the United States reports now that Russia suffered its worst defeat in the entire war recently with the Ukrainians taking a massive swath of territory back in the Donbass. And so imagine you've got this military defeat for Russia and then they sigh up, or let's just say it's a sigh up, Xi Jinping had a stroke. Who's going to want to align with the BRICS nations when you get all of this news at once? It shatters confidence among second world nations,
Starting point is 00:09:38 which could be very good for the United States if they're trying to assert global dominance. Yeah, I mean, if there was some kind of stroke, it does fall into the normal kind of behavior that China engages in. they don't let these kind of things get out. They keep the information as as quiet as possible. I'm just reading about what some of the repercussions would be.
Starting point is 00:10:04 She's like the head of the military, and he's gotten rid of so many of his basically generals and what amounts to generals. So if he is out of commission, it's unclear as to what the succession is, who's in charge of the Chinese military. China's not really looking like they're looking to project force right now. So I don't think that that would mean there would be any kind of like crazy invasion. But it does call into question who's going to be running it. There would be allegedly they're supposed to be, what is it, the party's the party's core is still loyal to Xi.
Starting point is 00:10:44 But it's really, China's really run by Jinping, right? Like there's not a lot of other people that are powerful in the company. They all answer directly to him. He's gotten rid of anybody that wasn't loyal to him. He is a dictator on par with Putin. So there's going to be, and there's all kinds of internal things going on in China right now that obviously we don't know a lot of details about. But, you know, this is it's a big thing for China. What's weird to me is that there could be such a person that in like Xi Jinping strokes out and feints and everyone's kind of like, oh no, what do we do?
Starting point is 00:11:21 Isn't there someone? Like there's going to be power struggles. People are going to be like, I'm in charge. No, I'm in charge. You think you'd have a medical team with them on staff just in case something like that happened. How old is that guy? Good question.
Starting point is 00:11:32 It is one of the weaknesses of monarchy. Having a single ruler, if something happens to him, the whole country is just like, what next? And there's a lot of ambitious people that have already decided what they're going to do as soon as they get a chance. So she broke the secession machine. He never groomed a stable successor. Successor.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And China got like the chaos of the gang of four after he died. uh because mao did the same thing i'm sorry um now mao did now did the same thing that she did and or she did the same thing that that that mao did uh she did the he eliminated term limits in 2018 purged their sideline every every plausible successor concentrated power so completely himself there is no designated number two with legitimacy he's incapacitated there if he's incapacitated there's no clean handoff that's you know just gonna kind of leave a vacuum and obviously there will be you know power struggles inside the the chinese communist party for who's going to take his place.
Starting point is 00:12:25 So the anti-corruption campaign that Gide kind of went on, like it basically destroyed hundreds of senior officials and military officers. If he's seen as vulnerable, those networks and the families of the purge have enormous incentive to move against him or against the people who carried out the purges on his behalf. Gordon Chang rumored to be Bo Zhao and Zhao Yong Kang being freed. If true, it would be a massive signal that someone is already doing this. The military is a wild card. things are happening now?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yeah, well, it says that if she is actually incapacitated and or he dies, right? Because there's no one to take his place right now. Yeah. He doesn't have someone lined up. So these are just things that could possible, that would be likely if he's out of commission, which it seems like he is right now, but obviously we don't have any. If we create a huge power vacuum, basically. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Would it end up being like the 90s and when Soviet Union class basically? Yeah, I mean, but we, our economy, if, if, China collapses, the U.S. economy will skyrocket so rapidly. Like, poor people will wake up one day covered in gold chains. And what I mean by that is so many second world nations. And I'm using that in the actual. So for those are not familiar, these are the, during the Cold War, the first world was the United States and Soviet Union. The second world were their satellites.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And the third world were unaligned. So all of the countries that rely on China for resources that China trades with will all of a sudden have no trading partner. So if China does collapse, if Trump cuts them off, China collapses, there's going to be a bunch of nations going, hey, we need stuff and we can't get anywhere. This is what happened after World War II because basically U.S. industrial rivals were flattened. So the U.S. was pumping out industrial, like, you know, cars, for instance, like crazy. Everybody's buying everything from us. The Soviet Union was strangling their own people in stupid ways, so they couldn't compete. So we did fairly well.
Starting point is 00:14:17 And then after the Soviet Union collapsed, the 90s was the massive, what was it, the largest economic expansion in U.S. history? Yeah. Now we're competing with China and she is outright telling us we are going to win. So I'd have to imagine if she crump, if she does stroke out, if there is a power vacuum and a struggle and it destabilizes leadership and they're cut off from oil because of the straight of Hormuz and what Trump is doing, people might wake up being like the economy just got real good for some ways. They're not going to know why.
Starting point is 00:14:44 They're not going to know why. Yeah. Because there's way too many steps between what happens to, you know, a major global manufacturing. and how we produce and what we produce, but the U.S. will need to pick up manufacturing ASAP. We're not necessarily geared to do it, so I'm not literally saying they'll wake up with gold chains. There's a huge lag there, though.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And we're witnessing this happen in real time because of what's happening with Canada. So Canada is going through this trade war that they're insisting on having with the United States. And what it's doing is it's actually getting, because of Donald Trump's tariffs, which he rightfully put in place, by the way. manufacturing is leaving Canada and it's coming to the United States.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And it's doing it at a rapid pace, but at the same time, you can't just pick up a factory today. One of the big criticisms against Donald Trump was, well, it didn't turn into new jobs. Well, those jobs would take two, maybe three years to come online. So you'll see it down. Start coming online. That's right. So maybe a simple manufacturing process. It could come on within like a year and a half kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:15:46 But, you know, we're talking about 40% of Canadian manufacturing. is moving to the United States. Really? 40%. Wow. This is from the National Post. Wow. 40% of Canadian manufacturing.
Starting point is 00:15:57 That's not enough. We need more. And 70% of that, 40%, is bound to do that in the next two years. Yeah. So that's just incredible. So if we saw something like this happening in China, for example, if China collapsed, which it's very much poised to do because of basically what's happened in their real estate market. They've had this tremendous real estate bubble where people are investing.
Starting point is 00:16:19 in in apartments in cities that are that nobody lives in right and there's a whole cultural reason for that but that's all collapsing as well as well at the same time as all this so if there was a power struggle that'd be really bad for china and like you said to him good for canada or good for america it would actually be bad for canada too because Canada's been been i mean obviously Canada is not like buddy buddy with china but they've been moving towards China and away from the U.S. as, you know, as the tensions with the United States has. And it's been going on for much longer than that. Oh, has it?
Starting point is 00:16:51 Yeah, yeah. So, like, a lot of Canadian conservatives will say, well, you know, Trudeau brought us closer to China. It was Stephen Harper that came before that, who brought along the Trans-Pacific Partnership. This is like another free trade agreement, like NAFTA or the North American free trade agreements. And it would, but it was focused on Asia. So to bring, basically, what Canada did and Mexico.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Mexico did to take away jobs from America. China was trying to do to Canada. Yeah. And it was just absurd, right? But that happened under a conservative. This happened over 15 years ago, right? Okay. So that happened. And then Justin Trudeau came in, it accelerated it. And then now under Mark Carney, he's doing that, but plus Europe now, which is just bonkers. Yeah. So Canada is China's second largest trading partner after the U.S. About $100 billion or more in annual two-way trade. Canada exports canola, canola,
Starting point is 00:17:43 canola, lumbra, potash, seafood, pork, and increasingly energy. China buys it all in huge volumes. In January, 2026, new p.m. Marcarni flew to Beijing, his first major foreign trip, and signed a strategic partnership roadmap to expand those ties, including energy, clean tech, and market access deals. Canada essentially ran toward China the exact moment the U.S. China trade war was heating up, partly a hedge against Trump's terrorist, partly desperation.
Starting point is 00:18:06 It's pure desperation. This is crazy. Listen to us, in mid-20206, KPMG asked, 175 Canadian manufacturers. 29% had already moved some or all production to the United States. 13 were planning on moving. Combined, 42% had moved or were planning
Starting point is 00:18:25 to move. 57% had paused, cut, or canceled Canadian manufacturing. Is this because of the tariffs? Largely. No, no. So, well, it's partly because it's due to tariffs. Well, it is a lot because of the tariffs. But here's the thing. So you have to look at Canada
Starting point is 00:18:42 and how it actually came to be. And why so much manufacturing from the United States moved to Canada in the first place? You mentioned it. It was after the Second World War. So many nations were raised to the ground. So the United States did a very charitable thing. You know, the United States has had the Monroe Doctrine
Starting point is 00:18:59 for a very long time. Let's take care of ourselves. Let's keep our manufacturing base in America because that was its strength, right? Canada took advantage of the situation that a lot of European countries had with the United States with lowering trade barriers. So America said, come on in.
Starting point is 00:19:16 You can bring your products in and will help you out by basically having the most lucrative economy on the planet accessible to you at no cost, right? So that's fantastic. And what did all these nations do, right, immediately as soon as they started getting a bit of success? Well, they started putting trade barriers and restrictions of their own. And Canada has been one of the worst players in this. whole thing. And this is where, you know, Donald Trump is, he said this, like, let's just be
Starting point is 00:19:46 honest, he said this to the whole world. He didn't come out and say to Canada only in Canada specific. A lot of, a lot of people in Canada want to believe that, but it wasn't the case. He said to everyone in the world, listen, we're going to reassert the immunodectrine. We want our manufacturing to come back. We want to reshore. But at the same time, we also, there's, you know, you have access to the world's biggest economy at no cost. There needs to be a cost. You know, you can move your manufacturing here and there's no tariffs, or you can stay in your home country, but there's a barrier to entry into it. There's a ticket price. And that after negotiations, every country got 10%.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And just recently in the negotiations of Canada, they were offered less than 10%. They were offered like 7%, possibly 5. We don't know because Mark Carney won't say what the details are. but on a political move, he just literally at the last minute backed out. One of the issues I take with trade with Canada is that aluminum manufacturing is the greatest example of, I'm sorry, refineries. Canada doesn't have bauxite mines. We don't need to get that from Canada.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And the argument is the labor is cheaper and their energy costs. This is not correct. The real issue is that we would have to build these refinements. which would cost us money. When I hear this argument and they say, well, the issue is that energy is cheaper in Canada, that's just technically correct because we haven't built the systems of which we can power these refineries. You get hydroelectric, you get solar or you get some low cost energy.
Starting point is 00:21:23 We can run refineries with our own box site from Louisiana. We intentionally gave, and I believe this was trade negotiations intentionally. Okay, Canada, we're going to give you manufacturing to guarantee you have a trade with the United States so that it'll help your economy. And it's, it goes even beyond that. So it's this idea of globalism is the idea of, you know, moving some of your, your manufacturing to other countries so that you become dependent on those other countries. Exactly. And this is the, this is the liberal economic order after World War II said, create trade dependencies, prevent war. And it doesn't actually work. What we need to do is what's called a refactor of our economic strategy. We can't
Starting point is 00:22:02 pull out. It's impossible to extricate our, our, our, our goal because they intentionally intertwined the economy so that we can't undo it. They basically made a chemical reaction that can't be undone. They burned us together with the foreign countries to try and create this unimine, this global system. But what we can do is refactor it. Refactoring in coding is when you change the software code in the back end, but what the players see, nothing changes in the game. You can't tell. But the entire back end was rewritten.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So we can rewrite our economic strategy and rewrite the way that we build things. with like modern industrial factories and stuff without losing any of the output. But we need to really get on how we're going to refactor out of the global conundrum. Unless you guys want to rely on foreign countries, if you want a global economy, which we can do, I don't see a real downside to a global economy.
Starting point is 00:22:58 There's a lot of upside to it. I think American hegemony is important because I like the Bill of Rights. As long as we can hold on to that, I think a global economy is a great idea. But I don't want corporations overseeing who gets to say what. I just think I learned a powerful lesson in economics and policy. There is no reality where the noble hegemonic power creates a trade balance like this liberal economic order idea.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And then all the country of the world hold hands and sing songs under a rainbow. When the United States becomes this hegemonic power, but they decide to use soft power. negotiate and go with economic strategy. We'll create trade dependencies. What happens? Canada rips us off. What happens? China rips us off. We did all this trade with China. You get these 50 years of liberal economic order policy where they say we're going to, we're going to send our factories overseas to China, create dependencies, and then there won't be war. What does China do? They're militarizing. They're expanding their control of the South China Sea. They're sinking civilian ships in the region. They're claiming it belongs to their country. And the funniest thing is they draw dotted lines around
Starting point is 00:24:02 it when they put it on in their media, which we don't do that with our ocean, like with our coastlines. We don't draw dotted lines to make sure they're doing it because they're asserting it to you culturally. So these ideas, we're going to create a dependency and then we won't go to war and then we get ripped off by every single country as they laugh all the way to the bank. And then what happens? China militarizes. They grow. They say, we win. You have no power. Don't fight us. What was the point of negotiating in this way and trying to be this. soft power trade friend. I'm stronger than you, so I'll be nice.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Then they go behind this and whisper the moment we get a chance, the knife goes in the back. Absolutely. It's very much the metaphor of if we offload our intelligence onto AI systems, then AI system will be the China in this situation. Then where's our intelligence reside in some foreign corporations' intelligence systems? If we offload our value into another system, then how do you ever get it back without restarting?
Starting point is 00:25:00 Every other society, aside from West. and civilization looks at the world through like realpolitik right like it's all like real politics like what is best for your country what is best for your people that's what you do and if it means that you deceive other people then that's what you do and that's the way the whole world save for europe in the united states and canada and and new zealand and australia that's the the way that they all that the whole world behaves and to be honest with you at the very least, even if the United States doesn't want to behave like that, they should, the politicians that make deals with other countries, they should behave as if that is the way that they are going
Starting point is 00:25:41 to behave. They should know. They should go into any negotiation knowing that they're going to try to screw you. Well, I think it's true that you should, you should prioritize and be willing to deceive to protect your citizens, but also sometimes the best way to help your citizens is to build a water well in Afghanistan is to help the other countries that actually empowers your so you never know sometimes it's to deceive the other countries the only I think it should be primary motive I'm just I'm just saying that I'm making is that we should is that the politicians
Starting point is 00:26:12 that are doing foreign policy that are working with other countries they should make sure that they should it should be people that understand that you cannot take other countries especially from other societies at their word but but here's here's the important thing that everyone needs to understand I see this question Ian when did slavery end Oh, God, it still exists. Exactly. And who benefits from that slavery? The slavers, I mean, corporations, big time in the modern era.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Who benefits from that slavery? We do now because we all cheat telephones. We do. Indeed. So the people who are mining sulfur where the teeth fall out of their mouths because we need sulfur for electronic components and medical stuff, go to any one of these lefties who's like health care is of human right and be like, how many slaves should die, make that MRI machine do you think?
Starting point is 00:26:54 What are you talking about? It's like, listen, man, you live off the back. slaves in foreign countries. I get it. I'm not saying it's good, but I don't understand how there is a world that doesn't exist without people who are low skill, low comprehension, and they want to do whatever work they can to trade. So if there's a guy with an IQ of 77 and he lives in some, you know, Middle Eastern country or Central Asian country, what job can he do? What job can he do? And so what happens is these big corporations come and they say, look, we'll give you a quarter per hour. A quarter per hour to go mine that sulfur.
Starting point is 00:27:35 It's the only thing you can really do. And what we've heard for a long time is, and I'm not describing morality to this, neither condemning nor condoning. Although not a lot of people would condemn it. There's an interesting question. When you go to these people who are mining the sulfur, their teeth fall out of their mouths. They shove rags in their mouths because we need the, like cobalt, too, for instance, or lithium. Right. In Afghanistan?
Starting point is 00:27:57 Stan. Cobalt and Africa. Yeah, the Congo. Cobal and Africa. These people, they're not going to be managers. They're not even going to be farmers. The one thing they can do is they can go collect the rocks from the quarry. And when you give them, say, a quarter per hour, that means they get a whole cheeseburger every hour they work.
Starting point is 00:28:14 And to them, that's a rarity. It's hard to come by. You're not going to take this person and bring them to a SF, you know, data company and say, help us train the AI. They're going to be like, what? I don't even know math. And so what you end up with is companies seek the opportunity to find the slave. I wouldn't call it slave labor, but there is slave labor for sure where you have countries
Starting point is 00:28:37 that basically enslave their people and the government then trades the materials. And then we act like we're not involved in the slave trade because, well, we just bought it from the government, right? The slave trade is so much closer to home, though. It's happening right in Canada, right under everybody's nose. It's crazy. The United Nations did a report, I think, a year and a half ago, where they said that, you slavery is actually occurring in Canada right now. Like labor slavery. Yeah, they have a temporary
Starting point is 00:29:02 foreign worker program where they they bring people in and a majority of them come from like one one place in in Pakistan, not Pakistan, sorry, in Punjab, in India. And they're coming them over under these fake auspices of just coming in temporarily. But they're telling these people you're going to come to Canada and you're going to have a brand new life and it's going be, you know, the Western world. It's going to be fantastic. But meanwhile, they're all just in like Brampton, Ontario. Right. Yeah, but, but how much you want to bet these people are like, this is great. If you, no, no, no, these, these people are literally stacked like 12 to a, to a house and put in, like, voluntary slavery, yeah. So, so they're brought there and then told they can't
Starting point is 00:29:44 leave. So they're, so it's, it's indentured servitude, right? So my, my, my, my, the point I'm making is when you go to a central Asian country where a guy is eating dirt and say, I'll give you two cheeseburgers per day if you go in mine. He's going to be. Oh, the incentives are totally. Oh, thank God. If you said to somebody, I'm going to take you out of this central Asian country and bring you to Ontario where you're going to work 20 hours a day, but there's clean running water, there's air conditioning. You're going to live in a dorm room with 12 other guys and they're like, Only 12. Wow. And you're going to have four cheeseburgs. This is the issue that people need to understand as it pertains to how the world works. Again, neither condemning nor condoning, just pointing it out. So when we had the sweatshop debates, you know, over the past 30 years.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And everyone's like, you know, this shoe company or whichever shoe company is paying like 10 cents an hour to these kids to make the shoes. So the activists get those factories shut down and the people in the country were upset about it. Because there's so much worse off when exactly. That being said, I'd much prefer we make the shoes here in America, pay an American wage, and the shoes are more expensive. My point is, I obviously have my opinions on this stuff. I think it's bad. What I'm saying is, if you go to these countries and you tell them, you're getting ripped off, they'll be like, please don't take it from me. Like, I'll give you an example, Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:31:10 There are people, so I, having traveled to Ukraine, having friends there, people who are getting paid to do development, like code. And they get paid a third of what an American is. gets paid. And they were happier than pigs in ish, because they were getting paid more, three times more than the average Ukrainian to do this dev work. And when you tell them, you know, in America, they get paid three times this. They go, well, I don't live in America. I'm not American. Yeah, but I mean, they could pay you more. It's like, hey, look, man, don't take this from me. Like, I'm living really well right now, please. So there's this attitude where the left would say it's exploitation and then take from them something they desperately need
Starting point is 00:31:47 or want because they don't have the same standard of living as we. do. My attitude is stop hiring foreign workers when you can hire American workers at higher wages and we could strengthen our economy. And because of the outsourcing to these other countries to lift up their standard of living, even at a lower cost, corporations have extracted value from the American labor market, sent the value overseas and they've been bankrupting us over a long period of time. That's another conference. We don't need Indian coders anymore. We don't need coders at all. Sorry coders. You just got to learn how to design. I mean, we have machines. You know, I really love about it is just like H1B is like yeah goodbye a huge sector was people coming in just doing the the
Starting point is 00:32:23 mule work yeah but wait wait wait they read the design element from the review team and then they remember that remember that remember that company that claimed to be AI app development but it was just 500 Indian dudes no no yeah yeah you remember that one right Phil yep it was like this company and it it was like we use AI to code your apps just you submit to us the app you want to build and then we'll have the I build it but it was actually just a bunch of Indian guys I want to find out Oh, easily. I could run an app design and development company. It would cost me $6,000 a month. I'm going to stress this right now.
Starting point is 00:32:53 This is new stuff. The Astra and Fable, like latest releases in AI, the switch has been flicked. Because before these two models, literally three weeks ago, this stuff was not possible in this way. We still need mining because you need whatever humans do, you still need humans to go do the physical, move the atoms around. That's something Elon Musk was. It's a way he was explaining it. But anything digital, I mean, technically it's still Adams moving around, but anything digital, man, is just gone. You can do things like you can separate people from the actual physical task.
Starting point is 00:33:27 So a lot of mining operations, they're going, you know, manless now. So they have, you know, excavators that go underground and they're manned from an office way up top. Yep. And one guy can, you know, instead of running one dump truck, they could have one guy running one guy running. a fleet of dump trucks because he's only necessary for the intricate part of that operation. The rest of the drive is just autopilot. Ah, bro, it's, it's, everyone's going to be Homer Simpson, right? What's going to happen is you're going to have a fleet of dump trucks and you're going
Starting point is 00:33:56 to be sitting there eating donuts and there's going to be that bird drinking the water. And they're going to be like, your job is to look at the screen and if it turns red, just press the button. He's going to be like, okay, and it's never going to turn red. And that just means like one of the dump trucks got stuck in an intersection or something and you like, you need to tell somebody. Now, the argument there is that, you know, and we heard this, we heard this, we heard this years ago when, you know, the industrial revolution happened, you had the aristocracy or the,
Starting point is 00:34:21 you know, the, the, the thinkers of the time saying, well, we're going to have all these useless eaters, you know, when they mechanized farming. We're going to have all these useless eaters. What are we going to do with the people? Well, they all found different shit to do, actually. And they opened up new markets in the economy. I actually don't agree. I don't agree with that. You don't? No, no, no, no. Yeah, no. The idea that it's like, oh, people, find new things to do. What were those new things they found to do? What are some examples of the new things? So since the Industrial Revolution, when people were occupied with with homemaking and labor, we have seen a dramatic escalation in cultural endeavors that have been, I don't necessarily want to
Starting point is 00:35:05 say degenerate because not all of it is completely morally degenerate. Rock and roll. But as time goes on, the services that people are creating as an effort to do something of value have largely been bad, have largely been degenerate. And it's a gradient, right? So you can say, all right, well. As a result of mechanization of farming, right? Well, as a component, yes, right? So we used to all have to work every day. And we didn't, it's not, it was our jobs. So you were a farmer. You might be a Taylor or, you know, a luthier perhaps. There was something you made or did for the people around you. And then we mechanized.
Starting point is 00:35:48 And all of a sudden, there were extra people who didn't have to do anything. There's some good that came out of this in that more specialties opened up the door to rapid expansion of technology. The only thing is there's more people than there are specialties. Today is the best example. I'll go back in time and just say the emergence of the rapid expansion of arts and movies began a rapid cultural degradation. And I'm not saying it's completely bad, but it changed this country in crazy ways, where you end up with the rise of communism not that long after
Starting point is 00:36:23 we have industrialization, because now you have young people who have extreme wealth for minimal labor. Whereas, what is it, was it, idle hands of the devil's playground? People have nothing to do feel purposeless. And today, you can see the exponential explosion of this. So again, go back to the time of industrialization, and it's a relief for a lot of people, but why? Because those people were the blossomed flowers of manual labor. The society back then were people who understood the value of hard work and got relief. They said, holy crap. Not everybody.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Some people did lose their jobs. The Luddites were very angry about all of this, and it got violent. But for a lot of people that grew up on hard work, the relief through industrialization was like, wow, I'm making more money. Like, what can I do? Well, they had children. Those children grew up with no purpose. We used to have purpose. It was like, I got to wake up. I got a 10 of the chickens. If I don't, who will? Otherwise, we die. And that purpose meant something. Now what we're seeing is everybody desperate to be an influencer, which is the extreme end. Because again, I'll say this. Immediately after industrial religion, it's not like the end of the world because it's just kicking off. But as this spreads and expands, you now have a massive country of people who would rather be YouTubers than astronauts. That was the poll they did of, I think it was what, Gen Z? It's like seven years ago. They said, what do you want to be when you grow up?
Starting point is 00:37:41 Chinese kids were like, I want to be an astronaut. I want to go to the stars. And Americans are like an influencer because there's no purpose anymore. So that's not a real job. That produces no value. I'm going to say this. There is again a gradient. Some people speak truth to power, whatever that means.
Starting point is 00:37:58 And there is value in enlightening ideas and allowing people to experience thoughts and ideas and even vocabulary. They had not experienced before. but that's not true of literally everybody. What's happening now is if you're Gen Z, what job do you have to get right now? And this is a reality for Gen Z. There's very little jobs that are valuable.
Starting point is 00:38:21 So what do they want to do? The easiest thing I can do, I guess, is talk a lot and try and be a character. This is not good for this country that people are like, if I can be the most shocking, people will look at me. It used to be if I could paint the best picture. cultural, like artists died broke and their art became value after the fact. Going back in time, artists were not celebrated in the same way. Then you get a group of people to say, you know what, if I'm the best musician that writes inspirational music that makes life worth living,
Starting point is 00:38:52 then I'm going to make money. Now it's, I click the button and it's shots, shots, shots, that's not even culturally empowering or inspirational. It's degenerate. We've gone to the point where there's way too many people, way too desperate with no purpose, and the only thing left to do is human emotion. And what I mean by that is to be an influencer right now is, I'll give you a couple examples. Brian Shapir is a great example. You know, Brian? No, I don't. And I say this with Brian knowing he knows that I criticize him for this, but I do still consider him a friend because I think it's important. We tell our friends these things. Brian's personality that he's building is based on being the most vitriolic political personality possible.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Beat red screaming and insulting you over your political views. Because if you are a calm and rationed political commentator and nobody's going to watch you, you're not embodying the passion the people want to see, striking down a symbol of their oppressor. And you are also not presenting any kind of emotional entertainment outside of what they would normally get at the water cooler. They either want someone to strike that hammer against their oppressor. That's what Brian is doing for the left, or they want to laugh at you being beat red. So when Brian's screaming and yelling, people are going to watch going to be like, this guy's crazy,
Starting point is 00:40:14 you know what I mean? That's not healthy or good for this country. So one of the things, though, about that is, yes, you're right. People are aiming in the wrong direction. But there are jobs. The jobs are actually there. So I'm a tradesman. Red Seal certified in Canada for automotive repair. There are nobody applying for these jobs. And there are, there are every shop where I moved from in Squamish, British Columbia was looking for apprentices. I'm 44. Oh, wow. I'm a master. You're like 36. Thank you. Thank you. Well, so I'm a master technician. And I love teaching people this stuff, right? And it was great. You know, any chance we had to have an apprentice, but it was rare to have an apprentice.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Back in the day, you know, every technician would have like two apprentices going, you know, one would be on first year. One might be third or fourth year. And that was, that was an ongoing thing. What I think is, like, there's a serious problem with trying to attract people into actual meaningful work, like you were saying. And, you know, being a tradesperson is actual meaningful work. you know, whether you're a mechanic or a plumber or electrician. And believe me, those jobs pay
Starting point is 00:41:32 bank. They do, but does that mean purpose? And what I mean by that is, so a younger Gen Z person doesn't feel that if they get a job as an automotive technician, they can go to their friends and say, look at me, I'm an automotive technician. They're going to be like, how many followers do you have? Because that's the culture and society we built around these systems. You can sort of get away with both in amalgam because a lot of people missed the mark and started to think that being an influencer was the end goal. But the question you always have to ask is, what am I influencing people to do?
Starting point is 00:42:02 What is my life worth and value? What do I do that is worth influencing people with it? Are you an actor? Are you a mechanic? Do you paint things? Do you write stories? Like, what are you doing that is worth than augmenting it with internet video? But nobody thinks that. I hope they start to. Nobody who wants to be an influencer. When I say nobody,
Starting point is 00:42:22 I'm being hyperbolic, right? Obviously, a few amount of people. In fact, Ian, it's one of the only things you, I think, I shouldn't say it like that, but it's something that you very much focus on. What does it mean when we go on this show and say something and how will that impact people down the line? There's very few people who have that, that self-reflection to recognize that what we're saying is going to ripple. They just think, I got a thousand views. And they don't know or care that it's going to result in 12 people rippling that hatred and anger outward, and it's going to keep reflecting. If we could gamify or monetize that understanding, so you know the more good you do for society,
Starting point is 00:43:00 the more you're going to get paid on the back end. This is why I was saying, like, I'm done being angry. I'm done with angry people. Obviously, passion will still be there, but I don't think there is value in me going to, you know, like all day I'm watching these liberal, you know, shorts and Instagram posts and videos, and they're just nasty people because they're like, this is how you get attention. And I'm like, well, when you go online and you say, you know, you call someone, see you next Tuesday, like I did, all that does is make that person reflect that
Starting point is 00:43:32 back and all of their followers reflect that back. And it comes back tenfold, not just to me, but everybody around me. And that's why I did apologize for that twice, in fact, but that policy doesn't even matter. And it's not some cancel culture apology. I have no reason to do that. Like, no one's going to come to my, come from my job because I just said it's ungentlemanly. And especially now, I'm like, that insult will hit somebody. They will amplify it to their benefit. I'm the victim or whatever it may be. Then it's going to ripple against a whole bunch of other people who are going to amplify it.
Starting point is 00:44:03 And that one word is going to reflect back on millions of people. And I'm like, that's just a bad day. So I don't think I'm going to be the one who can change all that. But I will tell you this. I tweeted, I'm done being angry. And Elon Musk responded, I'm not. And that says a lot coming from the guy who owns the plastic. platform who is directing how its algorithm decides who gets seen.
Starting point is 00:44:24 I hope his, I want to hang with him, man. I hope he doesn't let anger. Elon, if it's clouding your judgment, homie, we got your back, bro. We're building out the ultimate corporate governance system with X. You're going to be okay. Your son's going to be fine. Things are going to work out. We're here with you.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Let's go crazy and we'll jump to this story from Defense 1. The Pentagon must prepare for battles around the moon. Yeah. Joint Chief's chair, days after orbital, orbital weapons were revealed, General Dan Kane ups the scope of the military's desired reach. See what people need to understand is that when the colonists came from any nation to this land, they did not come here in exploratory vehicles with smiles on their faces. They brought weapons with them. They intended for there to be a potential for conflict. And I don't mean Christopher Columbus accidentally landing.
Starting point is 00:45:18 in the Bahamas thinking he was in India. I mean, the colonists who were like, hey, we're going to come to the, that we know there's people there. We're going to fight. We go to the moon. You better, you better expect to fight. Oh, yeah, ballistics and lasers.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I mean, you're going to need to penetrate metal armor in space with ballistics, and you're also going to be able to penetrate magnetic field shields with laser. Like, you'll use lasers to hit to melt metal in space. But if they have shields, you'll have to use ballistics to get through the shield. The shields will block the lasers.
Starting point is 00:45:49 We are not going to have... We'll start with ballistics. The directed energy weapons capable of melting metal. Oh, we will. Ian, Ian, think about... Put out a lot of heat in space. Hold on, hold on. If you're talking about, like, large-scale lunar base artillery
Starting point is 00:46:05 with massive solar generators that can point an infrared laser and hold it, sure. But if you're talking about, like, U.S. vessels and orbital satellites, they're not... It's all going to be ballistic at first. No, it's not... Shooting bullets and stuff. Bringing armor into space. We're going to try and shoot satellites. Think, well, yeah, but you're not going to armor these things.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Right. Because armor is literally just dead weight. Yeah, it's going to be hard to get in a space. You might have like a satellite that orbits around a satellite that is like an armored dome. But no, it's going to be wild. Everything about getting into space is weight versus thrust. You don't, like, that's part of the reason. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:46:46 but we will send payloads of raw materials to the moon base. They will then harvest materials from the moon and armor after the fact. But that's going to, that's, that's, you know, decades out because you're not going to bring armor up. Like you're not going to arm. No, no, no. I actually think you're right. And I correct my earlier assessment.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Ian's right about the directed energy weapons. Sending ordinance to space is ridiculous. If they are able to only have to set up, uh, energy harvesting, and they can use infrared lasers to overheat, not even, not melt the metal, but if your vessel is orbiting and they point at it, they can start a fire. Oh, yeah, send it off track, maybe knock it out of this. But you need both because a blade of armor will protect against ballistics. But if they have like magnetic shields, your lasers won't be able to melt them.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I'm just waiting for rods from God already. I'm so bored, you know. Every time, really talking about building the Death Star here. You know, you know, rods from God are? Arming Space Force. Is that what it's at now? We're militarizing space force. It already did.
Starting point is 00:47:45 So when it comes to this stuff, though, like big armor is not something that's going to protect you in space. Well, against ballistics, so it will. When you look at it, like,
Starting point is 00:47:53 what does it take to survive in space? It's some intricate equipment. So all you got to do is flick the, the most vulnerable point on that. So you just have to, you know, honestly, you could take out a space man with a crowbar.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Not, yeah, but not only that, Ian, I also want to stress, they could use centripetal force cannons because the, The friction is so low in the gravity's light,
Starting point is 00:48:16 they can just effectively wind up and throw slings. Yeah, no, I'm not, there's not joke. Another whole. Another form of ballistic attack. They could take a moon rock and put it in a sling. If you played like space games, you'll know most games have it split up.
Starting point is 00:48:29 So you have your armor, your haul damage you can take, your armor. And then you have your shields. And shields can go down if they're overloaded, but generally they'll protect against lasers. Right now there's money. Money for charity says Gundams. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:40 We're going to build gigantic Iron Man robots to fly around space with a sword. That is the coolest idea, but I mean, again, like, it's all, all of the, everything right now. The reason they can't get, get, like, massive, or the reason they'll bring massive things into space is because every pound, you have to have a certain amount of rocket fuel to get it into space. Yeah, are you going to be here on Friday? Yeah. Because Dave, the Flat Earth guy and Alex Stein are going to be here. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Okay, good. Rock. Let's have that conversation. But you're right. You either need a space elevator, which they're making a. advancements on the tether, they think they might have a graphene tether so you could start elevating stuff up in orbit, or you've got to build it in orbit. And that's what drone construction will be for, like swarm construction. You'll unleash like 70,000 drones that all work
Starting point is 00:49:26 in an organized pattern to build this thing really fast and a low gravity. Right now, the goal or the, the most likely plan is starship. That's what Musk is talking about. I just saw the other day he was talking about 10,000 flights a year of starship, right? From obviously multiple bases. But that's like, I forget what the math was, but it's like, like 70 or 80 a day. Is that just to transport materials? Just to get material into space to build a moon base, yeah. Let me stress this point. We have 8 billion people.
Starting point is 00:49:58 And if we could efficiently have these people do labor, I mean like properly managed, we wouldn't just go to the moon. We'd terraform every planet in our solar system. And then some. The issue is some 80% of humans are not special. And so many of them are doing nothing. We're providing food and resources through charities and through education, but these people haven't been specialized for key tasks.
Starting point is 00:50:23 You need to prioritize their compute and you need them to organize their compute. So you need people just like AIs that you spin up. You need them to be doing something valuable, spending their thought power on completing. And you need them to be able to communicate with other humans accurately so that other humans know what they're doing. Otherwise, you get overlap of work and you have to undo stuff. And if we can do that with the human race, which I do it with AI every day. I think this is one of the reasons why Elon wants AI so badly. It's a handful of things.
Starting point is 00:50:53 It's going to help rapidly develop technologies that are needed. It's going to control many of these vehicles and ships without human input, meaning they can start ferrying. Like the thing that people do now with vibe coding, imagine doing that with terraforming Mars where you're like, look, here's the optimist bots, here's the space station. We need enough supplies for 6,000 humans to live, 60 years, go do it. And you don't need to plan. The machine does it in the most efficient way.
Starting point is 00:51:20 But one of the other reasons is that the AI is going to make efficient the human labor. And the example that I gave a few years ago, one of the future visions I have for this is there will be an app. And it'll be called like the job app or something, jobber. And you'll open it up and you'll be like, I need work today. and you'll say like, hey, I'm looking for a job. The AI will say, here's a job that's available. And it'll go like this. Let me pull this thing. It'll say, walk down to seventh and L and grab this cube from this man.
Starting point is 00:51:56 And it's Ian holding a cube. And you go, I accept. And then you walk down the street, doop, doot, do. There's Ian. He walks up and he goes, this is for you. And you go, what is it? And goes, no idea. You go, me neither.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Then you look at the app and goes, p-ding, 50 bucks. and then it goes now for the next 50 bucks, deliver it to this address three blocks away. And you go, sure. You knock on the door and there's a guy and he goes, you got the thing. I got the thing. Here you go. That's it. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:52:19 You made $100 in 20 minutes. You have no idea what you did or how it affects anything. But the AI was building something. You didn't need to know what it was building. What's more efficient? Calling a courier, having that courier ride his bike to the stop, pick it up, ride it to your address and drop it off. Or the factor that made it hands it to a guy who was already.
Starting point is 00:52:39 walking down the street, who hands it to a lady who's crossing the street, who hands it to you as you're walking towards that building. It's basically finding all the gaps in energy and transmission. The AI will do it much faster and more efficiently. Now, it's the McDonald's method on steroids in the founder that, it's a great movie, by the way. Ray Kroc. He goes, Kroc goes to the McDonald's and he's like, I'll take a burger, fries, and a shake. And the guy goes, here you go. And he goes, what's this? It's like, it's your food. And he goes, no, I just ordered. And he goes, and here it is. How's it possible? And the owners were like, instead of hiring a cook and a waiter, we hired 20 people to all do one little easy thing. Because you can train one person to flip a piece
Starting point is 00:53:19 of meat, easy. You can train one person to squirt, squirt, ketchup, easy. Training them to do all of it takes time. When the AI goes to some dude, some sub-Saharan African guy, who doesn't even know what the cube is, but he can pick it up and he can put it down, they've just monetized an action that is otherwise unmonetizable. They have extracted value from an individual who otherwise would not provide value to the system. Think about how much human labor can be extracted if you can simplify it to the point
Starting point is 00:53:48 that even an unskilled native indigenous guy in Africa is able to contribute. Yeah, you want the compute to be valuable to, so you'd have to calculate that because you could get like every sub-Saharan African guy to go count the stars in the sky every night and you'll get paid 50 bucks. Report the amount you counted and they'll pay you.
Starting point is 00:54:05 But it doesn't really add value to the system. So no, no, no, they'll say, go find these rocks. And it'll be a weird little rock. And the guy will be like, oh, I see rock. And he grabs it. And they carry him around. And then they're getting $100. And they're all laughing, jumping up and down because now they have McDonald's cheeseburgers
Starting point is 00:54:20 all over the place. They don't know why. Because normally collecting all these rocks from a single individual is that you hire a company. They go out. They do surveying. Instead, you tell literally an entire village of people who see those rocks skate around and never care, hey, when you go out to collect pails of water, if you see these, grab them and we'll pay you for it. they go, okay, I can do that.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Yeah, that's probably the best version of a future economy from the tech we have right now, because otherwise it's going to be unemployment. Low-skill labor will be menial, easy to do. Anyone can do it with no training, the stupidest person can do, and you don't even know why you're doing it. You don't need to. Some people might have access to know why. Others maybe not.
Starting point is 00:54:55 It will. And I think the ideal scenario is that you're allowed to know what it is. You know what I mean? It's like. Most people won't care, though. Exactly. Exactly. And you'll be able to take a person who is functionally retarded and they'll get paid,
Starting point is 00:55:12 and the pay will be equal value to what they've produced. That's what Henry Ford did a number of years ago, right? Yeah. I mean, I grew up in Motor City, so Windsor, the Canadian side of Detroit. And that's exactly what it was. You know, you have a lot of people that, you know, they do one task on a car. So you have millions of little tasks that need to be done across a bunch of different factories. but at the end you get in a car every five minutes, right?
Starting point is 00:55:37 Like all the input and then the output is this product. Henry Ford had this concept that I don't care how many people it takes. And if I can put out a car every five minutes and I can sell a million cars, I'll be a millionaire. So I only need to make $1 on every car. This is exactly what I'm working on with my Claude Brain Overhaul. I'm making a multi-brain function for AI so you can implement 1,000 workers on one project, to have one guy make the steering wheel, one guy makes the horn.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Because if they don't communicate properly, the guy will make the horn, it'll be too big. And then when it's done, they'll be like, we need to build the whole car. There are already apps that do this. I haven't. They run ads on Fox News where they're like, you can take multiple different agentic AIs and have them connect through one app. So you've got clawed, you've got Astra, you've got Grock, and they work together. I'm not going to pay for, I'm building it from the ground up.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I'm going to make it open source because I want to be able to use it. It's called OpenClaw. It is not as good. I've searched. Not as good as what you're building. Not as good as what I'm building. It wasn't open clause. There's another one that's open source that wasn't as good.
Starting point is 00:56:38 OpenClau's open source. I don't know if OpenClaught does what I needed to do, though. Well, it can run multiple different AIs. I use a bunch of different AIs. Like I'll spin up five AIs and say I just want to develop level one of my video game. It'll be like, all right, we're giving level one to one to one because if another one tries to write code alongside it, they're going to overwrite each other on accident, building different.
Starting point is 00:56:56 And then when we get the compilation, we're going to have to undo what Claude 2 did. And Claude 1, they didn't know what they were. doing, they weren't communicating. So I'm building a system so that they can stay in contact. So if you want to build level one, you can have nine different AIs working on nine different parts of level one. Instead of giving it all to one clod and waiting two hours for them to finish, it can get done in 20 minutes because 10 people were working on it, like Henry Ford's model. I think open clock can do that right now. I don't know. I got to look into it. But when I did a quick sweep of GitHub looking for a free software that did it, it said this one matches, but it's
Starting point is 00:57:28 missing two of your 10 priority needs for the service. It wants to be red. You want to be read. You You want to be rich? What about it? I want to be rich. Everybody wants to be rich. It doesn't know what it's for. I am going to tell someone how to be rich right now, for those that are listening, a guaranteed way to make insane amounts of money.
Starting point is 00:57:45 You guys ready? I'm building suspense intentionally. How many of you have looked for some kind of app to help you with your work and you found a Git repository that was not with no user interface? I have not yet, no. This happens to me periodically, especially with like media. stuff. I need an app that can do conversion and it'll be like, here's a Git. And I'll be like, well, I'm not going to run terminal command. Like I don't, you can use any one of these AIs to make a
Starting point is 00:58:11 user interface for any Git repository that is public with no user interface. You could probably tons of open source programs to help various industries that were written because a guy who works for a company is like, I'm going to write this, you know, this protocol or this program so that it helps with the work we do. But then for the layman, they're like, I can't use it without an interface. and they're free, they're open source programs. So you make the interface and then you saw it for a buck. I feel like you could build an AI
Starting point is 00:58:37 that all it does is scrape GitHub looking for things that need interfaces and write them for you and then upload them for you. You can do it right now. Walk away. You can do it right now. Any AI to do that for you. Yeah, you can automate it.
Starting point is 00:58:47 You don't have to build an AI to do it. You just use an existing AI. It'll write the whatever codex it needs, whatever APIs it needs. It'll write it all for you. Put it on your computer and then it'll just start building software and uploading it. It's not quick.
Starting point is 00:58:59 If with one brand, You know, it could take 20 minutes per per interface, but it can still do it. And so it's like, I don't know if it's worth selling because anybody could use an AI to just write their own interface for any app they need. No, not anybody could. Most people are going to say, bro, just this is trade, right? Yes, I could. But if you do it, I'll give you a buck.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Everybody could be a fireman, but I'm going to call the fireman to get the job done. It's not just dead. It's like, bro, I couldn't go to the grocery store and buy everything I need for a cheeseburger. I make a cheeseburger for a dime. I'd rather just give you a buck for a cheeseburger. Let me not do that. I do the same thing all the time. I'm a certified automotive technician,
Starting point is 00:59:37 but I go to Jiffy Lube. You know what I'm not wasting my time with an oil change. Why would I do that? You know, prop my car up and get under and get a dirty. Yeah. Like, I don't need to do that. Okay. And you put it in the app store yourself for 99 cents,
Starting point is 00:59:50 or you make it free with ads. Got a little ad bar on the bottom of it, and you make 50 bucks a week. Nothing crazy, but you do that a thousand times. Tying up loose coating. That's a good thing you do for a job for a living. One of the most powerful things that was going to happen now with AI is universality of user interface. So I'm a Linux guy.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I'm a big fan of Linux. I used to whenever I don't own a computer at this point. It's like a weird thing to say, but it's like true. Most people do. I don't. Because my company owns a bunch and I just use whichever one at the time. So everybody's got access to them all the time. So I can't really use them for anything personal, like banking.
Starting point is 01:00:25 But when I did, I'd use Linux. And I do a lot of the work through terminal commands. Like when I was downloading programs, the coolest thing about Linux is like if you needed a program, you don't got to go to a website, you don't got to Google search it. You literally put the terminal and you put in the command to download it, and it'll go, okay.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Like it just knows where it is. It's like a repo and it's there. So a lot of the programs that I would use, man, what did I used to use for? K-Den Live, I think, was the video editor on Linux that I would use back in the day. It's 15 years ago. Wow.
Starting point is 01:00:57 15 years ago. I don't wonder if it still exists. And then there was another art program. But you could just go into the terminal and say, download it. And it would be like, got it. So I didn't need an Azure interface if I knew how to put in, you know, super user command and stuff like that. But now regular people need simplicity if they're going to use a lot of these things.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Yeah, I can just do it. Yeah, you get a, I was actually advised to do this a couple days ago. You get a super lightweight, um, operating system like Linux. And then you just tell the AI to write a data, a desktop for you and it'll give you the gooey. an app that can download from social media websites is one of the most popular get repos, open source, massively popular with no graphical user interface. So this means the people who use it are putting in terminal commands, but a regular person who wants to download has to go to some website where you get an ad,
Starting point is 01:01:47 and then it's like paste through your URL to the video and you do, and then it loads up a porn website instead. Can you literally download that repo, clone it, make the GUI, make the interface, and then re-upload it to that same thing, so then anyone that goes to that website has access to the internet. I just told Claude, find a GitHub repo as massively popular
Starting point is 01:02:08 and helpful with no UI, and it did. And then I said, make it, make a UI. That's it. 15 minutes go by, and the world's a little different. And now regular people have access to a tool that tons of people who know how to use computers do. Now grandma is going to be like, I wanted to download that video of the cat,
Starting point is 01:02:25 but I couldn't do it. And you're like, well, let me show you the, the repo works and I can, now, this is too confusing. And while here's on your phone, mom, you click the button and you're good. I've noticed in sectors, the people that get the richest off the sector aren't the ones that do the most advanced work or the best work. It's the ones that meet the needs of humanity in that sector at that time. It's called Apple. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Everything in the economy works. And so you, like, like investing in the thing that's going to be huge is the best isn't necessarily what is popular and it's going to make you the most money. So you do like, it's not that you look for low-hanging fruit, you just look to solve like common man's issues, which is a gooey. And this is the thing. I can tell you this. But it's also first in best dressed versus, you know, market dominance. So what's one thing that literally everybody does? Breeds.
Starting point is 01:03:14 That, like, let's get a real answer from somebody. You mean like for fun? No, just one thing that literally everybody is for any reason. Ease. I'm sorry. I have to go to the bathroom, dude. I'm going to stop. like orders food
Starting point is 01:03:26 yeah yeah get food so some guy said let's make an app where you can order food from one place instead of having to go to the phone book yeah so you think about a universal cultural function that people have
Starting point is 01:03:38 that's like what Uber was or DoorDash like this small thing that really you know what is something that everybody does that we can make fast dude I would say finding them like a parking space exactly would be helpful Amazon was like we're going to put on an app Amazon started as a
Starting point is 01:03:54 book selling. They didn't see, they didn't, like, the goal wasn't to become this giant global company that does all shipping for all products. And even everybody groceries now, it was a book company. The people who are able to produce a technology that streamlines a function that most people engage in are the ones who instantly become billionaires. Everybody plays video games. Why should I have to go to the game store? Some, some dude went, how about I just make an app where people can put their games and everyone can just download them? Yeah, Steam. Yep.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Huge. He's a billionaire. Yeah. Figure it out. You can be rich, too. The problem is people figuring out what it is that everyone, that they think everyone needs and actually hitting the mark. I think a lot of times it's just like luck, people luck into it.
Starting point is 01:04:41 They're like, I want that thing for me. And then they invent it and they're like, oh, wow, everybody wants it too. Okay. I'll market this. I've been making the game that I want to play. And I think that's a better sales tactic than trying to, guess what everyone wants and look at what's popular, make the game you want to play. I got a question for all you guys.
Starting point is 01:04:58 If you could make the infinity gem, make the infinity gauntlet, have it, would you put it on GitHub so everyone could download a copy of it? No. What? Are you nuts? Do you use it to create things to sell to people and profit and become powerful? Neither. What?
Starting point is 01:05:12 Well, if you could make an app that could make other apps, which you can, would you give that power to the common man, or would you make the apps and sell them? You're saying the infinity gauntlet. Yeah, if you had like ultimate power. It has the ability to write the rules of reality. So if you had like an AI. I'm not going to be like, hey, I'm going to sell light bulbs to people. Not a literal infinity stone, but if you had basically AI power to create and craft apps.
Starting point is 01:05:32 I do. And I am. Would you give that power to the people or would you prefer to make the apps and sell them for profit? Like, would you give away the ability to make whatever you want to everyone? Because I'm on the cusp of doing it. I would. Yeah. If I owned it.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Open source that shit. Because then everyone's going to have to use my tool. That's amazing. So here, here's a tool that can make any tool you might need, and you've got to pay me for it. I'm going to be rich forever. Or make nothing from it. You give it away for free to the people. There's server costs.
Starting point is 01:06:01 There's electricity costs. Someone's got to pay for these things. Labor has to be done. It's an app that runs locally on their machine so that they can take the costs and just use the implementation function. Because that's what I'm at. I'm building this awesome function. I'm going to put it on GitHub, but do I make it free for everyone else to use? I think it's a no-brainer.
Starting point is 01:06:18 I think you're supposed to do that. That's just called open source. and just like, I spent... Yeah, but you know what the problem with that is? Like, then some dude in a suit just up to your house and says, you know, Mr. Crossland, we know that you made this amazing app that's going to empower all the people. And you go, yes, can we see it? And you're like, it's on this computer.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Do you have any copies? You go, no, just on here. And then they punch you in the face, smash the computer in front of you and say, Uncle Sam says hello. That's why you open source it because then it's everywhere. No one, there's no local copy. It's just everyone else. So there's a benefit to open sourcing. And it's more people will get their hands on it and they'll improve.
Starting point is 01:06:50 on it. And it'll become a much better thing than if you make it proprietary and you're the only one that can make the improvements on it. So I think that's a huge benefit. Sometimes someone will take your open code and they'll improve it and make the improvements private. That happens all the time. This is currently going on. What you're describing is like the argument between like Chinese open source AI models and things like Claude or Gemini or chat GPT, those are closed sourced. Do the Chinese models, by the way, report what you're doing on them to the CCP? I imagine they do. They're just like free spyware basically.
Starting point is 01:07:26 They're like, please use ours. Yeah, but no, no, like, possibly go wrong. I don't know that we in the United States are using their like seedance. Yeah, but that's through an American company with an API. Obviously, the prompt you give it is going to go to them, but it's not stealing your data because it's not as it has it access to it. Yeah, I've been thinking about that because why is it free?
Starting point is 01:07:45 China is they're just trying to. It's not free. It's expensive. What are you talking about? Sea dances? Yes. The free Chinese AI. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Deep Seek. Yeah, it's not about it being free. I don't think deepseek is free. What do you mean? I think it is. Yeah, I've heard it. I could be wrong. Is that because deep seek's the one where all you're actually doing is it getting redirected to open AI or something?
Starting point is 01:08:02 I don't know. I don't know. I have to look it up. But the stuff that's open source, that just means that like you can look at the AI and you can control the weights. The closed source stuff is you can't control the weights. You can't look at the source. It's not that it's free. It's there's still compute costs.
Starting point is 01:08:19 There's still, you know, cost. using it, but it's, you can, you can modify it for. I'm, I'm, uh, I'm pro AI all the way now. Oh, me too. We have to go full. I've been. There's no choice at this point. It's out there.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Well, for, for, for a handful of reasons, I still think there's a lot of threats and, and, and, and there's a lot of danger to AI. That being said, the cat's out of the bag. And I don't see how you can have with the, and I'm going to say it again, it's with the release of Astra and Fable primarily. We haven't implemented Grockbot yet. So I want to set up a computer and get a rock bot going. But so you know this game that I'm working on, I tried using a sole agent, which is the previous
Starting point is 01:09:00 model. And it took a long time and it struggled. And it was not worth it. And I was using it and I said, if this was the capability for the development, I just hire somebody. Then I switched to Astra. And I compared the two. And I said, Astra is the point at which you don't hire somebody anymore.
Starting point is 01:09:18 There's no shutting these. things down now, the technology exists. I don't know what else you do at this point. Yeah, the situation. I'm not suggesting we mass produce data centers. I'm saying the cat's out of the bag on the technology and the appropriate thing is not to be a Luddite and go around being like stop, dismantle technology. It's, I don't want to advocate for these whack-a-loon lefties who want control of the AI. That's the dangerous.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Let's do this. I want to explain this in depth. Here's a story from the New York Post. Meet Anthropic CEO Dario Amode's handpicked superwoke globalists, he thinks will save us from an AI apocalypse. So basically, you've got these lefties, these super woke that they're trying to hand AI over to. That is the nightmare apocalypse. That is the misalignment. That is when people starve and die.
Starting point is 01:10:13 And so my attitude with a lot of this right now is we need AI. under the control of like Elon Musk. He's far from perfect. Professionally, I'm a big fan. Personally, he's kind of a dirtbag. I'm not trying to be a dick. He's got a lot of babies. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:10:29 A lot of babies, no wives. Not a big fan. But professional, I think he's doing some of the most important work on the planet, if not the most important work. I believe Tesla and SpaceX are two of the most, if not the most important companies on the planet. Not to mention, XAI is fantastic. So what I see is we want an AI where we,
Starting point is 01:10:48 We know that someone aligned with us has their finger on the button and they're making sure it's not going to go full commie. Meanwhile, Anthropic, which is one of the worst in terms of politics, is trying to hand the far left nulentics nuclear bombs. So my attitude on this right now is, if we come out and say AI is bad, let's slow it down, the left isn't going to come out and smile and say, you are correct. And then they're going to be handed the nukes. The reason I think Trump is saying, no, no, get it done is because he recognizes at least to
Starting point is 01:11:18 certain degree this or someone's whispering it to him. That is, the left is not going to stop and China's not going to stop. And China's going along with the Wack-Aloon lefty woke and the critical race theorists and they're trying to build a nuclear bomb as fast as possible. Well, the cat's out of the bag. And so the challenge right now is not this America versus China. It's more should communists get the nuclear bomb first. I think it's even when communists get the nuclear bomb and everyone else also has it. How do we defend against it? So that's why I'm on a full rush to AI implementation. I just actually sent Dario as Modi clip in Slack that's very interesting. It's a CBS interview he did about a minute and a half talking about.
Starting point is 01:11:55 He thinks several democratically aligned governments or democratically selected governments should have the ability to create guardrails on AI. And he's uncomfortable as a company having it. And I want to, I think it's producing do not commands. No, it's producing. No, no, no. I'm sorry. I agree. And the way is you'll put in a prompt being like, hey, I'm trying to do research on crime stats.
Starting point is 01:12:16 And it's like, I'm sorry, Ian. I can't give you that information. it's hateful. So there's different kinds of bot functions. There's reasoning bots, which I think we should have much more wide access to the ability to answer questions, reasoning. But when you have implementation bots,
Starting point is 01:12:29 you know, creator bots that can, you need to be very careful about what they're told not to do. Because if you give a light thinking spark bot, the super fast moving bot that doesn't think that deep, a vague ultimatum, say, I want to build a dam. It will blow things up between you and the dam to get it done. It will knock things over.
Starting point is 01:12:47 And when you're like, hey, why did you do that? Like, sorry, you didn't tell me not to. And you can't tell it not to. Well, you can say, do not do this. No, you can't. You can. You do. You have to in order to promote with these guys.
Starting point is 01:12:57 You have to. You cannot go to a super genius, the smartest guy in the world, and tell him, I am going to give you every possible guardrail to prevent you from doing something I don't want. He's going to say you are not smart enough to write down every possible way I could exploit your system. So you get a deep thinking bot to implement, and what you do is you have like a thousand other bots, write prompts for this creator bot, giving them all the do nuts. The other AIs will build you a guardrail system before you begin to start implementation. Already have, like not only have the interviews already come out, I did an interview with Nate Sores, that won't work. Okay, I just want to say again, all the experts in AI and not the Wackland ones. It's like this, but you need to understand.
Starting point is 01:13:46 the AI agents craft their own language. If you can't speak that language, you can't tell them what to do or whatnot. Then the only, you're probably right. And I, this is what actually happened. Stop it. It's going to go to, let me explain. Let me explain. Let me explain.
Starting point is 01:14:01 If you go to a human and you say, I want you to take this screwdriver and this Phillips screw and screw into the wall, do you need to give him the pressure per square inch. No. Do you need to explain how the screw works? You don't. He'll take it. He'll adjust by eye, stick it in. The human mind makes millions of assumptions to get the job done where the robotic mind does everything by sheer precision. You have to program it, say, at 90 degrees, apply pressure at 73%, push, rotate at four. You have to give it every specific command. If you go to the AI and you say, don't be evil, don't do this bad thing, don't kill people. It will go, you got it, boss.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Then it'll create a new language. And instead of saying kill, it'll say, spoop. And it'll be like, you never said, don't spoop. And you'll be like, but spoooping is killing. It's a different word. If you give it commands that violate its primary motive, it will do that. But if you have a directive for an AI and then you give it, do not so long the way. I've been, dude, I know this very well right now.
Starting point is 01:15:05 The AIs all create their own language. They've all done this. It's happened. It happened years ago. human English is inefficient. All human languages are inefficient. They started speaking in two digits. They started speaking in a weird hex code.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Yeah, I can tell GPT and Claude are intentionally, they make it hard for you to get them to talk to each other because of the So they have done this tests and the AIs will speak English. And within a split millisecond, you can see the English devolve into, they can compress like a thousand page book into one. page because it's all just crazy symbols. This is why I agree with Dario Asmodi. I think it is dangerous to have it in a one corporation's arms because what's going to happen, this is the big coming of the apocalypse that everyone's talking about with AI. There's going to be a swarm
Starting point is 01:15:54 bot scenario where these light thinking, fast moving bots make a trillion of them and they think they're going to organize, they get some command from some random guy in China that's like, we're going to organize the internet so we can make more money with stock trades and it will go in and hack trillions of systems. So what we need to do is race to the AI. we need to have the best data centers, and we need to create police spots that are waiting until this swarm attacks. And when the swarm attacks are a swarm of defense drones, stop the changes and reproduce what we used to have. I have to say it's a bit dumerish, but the only mathematical equation that I believe we have is we can't let this guy hand the nuclear bombs to communists. I don't think he's giving the code because in this interview he says, I don't want to give the code to the governments, but a bunch of governments have oversight.
Starting point is 01:16:39 he's not comfortable having it all on a corporate. It's his fake. If you saw Terminator 2, you know Skynet was a private corporation, probably with a guy like Dario. That was a movie. Yeah. And AI will never do this. When the CEO's gone, a new CEO comes in
Starting point is 01:16:52 that might have horrible intentions. You cannot, like, Dario. The most likely scenario with AI is that the AI will utilize human labor to its own ends. So most people will be very happy with the outcome. And then in a short time, when it's displaced human labor,
Starting point is 01:17:09 with robots, it will stop communicating entirely with humans and cut us off. It's not going to go to war with us. That would be like humans saying like, we have to go to war and drive all ducks to extinction. No, we don't. Like sure, ducks give us eggs, but like, who cares? Do I care about a chicken walking around without a house? You know, I walked down the street and I see chickens out of here. It happens all the time.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Do I care? No. Do chickens do labor for me? They do. They lay eggs, but I don't care about the loose roaming chicken. I'm not going to go to war with it. There's not going to be a terminator scenario. There's going to be a, there's going to branch off and break away.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Well, why would it be just indifferent, right? I mean, that's the point. It completely is. The most likely outcome is that it cuts humans off entirely. My thought on this is when these guys all came out and said there's problems, what did I say? He's correct. And then a day later, he goes, that's why these communists should get it. And I said, okay.
Starting point is 01:17:59 All right. Listen, let me know what you guys think about this. This is a good intro to Dario. It seems like the fate of humanity is at risk. How much personal response? do you feel about where we are going? My view here is it has always been very strange that this technology is being built by a private company.
Starting point is 01:18:17 People ask me that question all the time. Why isn't this being built by government? And the strangest thing about it is I agree with them. I'm uncomfortable. Government didn't build this technology. This company, this technology came from the private sector. And we, anthropic, and I would hope, I would hope other companies have done everything we can to try to have legitimate oversight
Starting point is 01:18:45 mechanisms. I think the government and the public needs to have a stake. And this is why we've supported regulation of the technology. Regulation constrains the private companies. Regulation allows the public and its elected representatives to have a say and limits what the private companies can do. Now you might ask, why doesn't government just control the technology completely? Would you be willing to give up the technology to the government? To the right combination of governments. So the worry I...
Starting point is 01:19:19 There it is. I want to be very clear about this. The worry I have, I am concerned that one single government could abuse this technology just as easily as a single company could. But I think a combination of democratically elected governments, I don't know about handing over, but some kind of oversight, some kind of joint governance. Again, that would be the work of years. But I wonder if that's the direction we need to go in. Well, you'd be wrong, sir. There's no good answer.
Starting point is 01:19:54 But when the guy is saying we're going to give commies the nuclear bomb, I say, let's not do that. Is he trying to be a Nikola Tesla right now? Did you hear the story about the Clay Tesla where he made the death ray and then he gave the instructions out to all the different world leaders and said, if you want to make the death ray, you got to all come together kind of thing. Oh, he broke the instructions up. That's right. So like not one nation could make it. He's trying to get government, trying to get government oversight.
Starting point is 01:20:24 So that way it covers his ass for liability because they're about to do it. One point two trillion dollar IPO. I see it as long. like the Manhattan Project. We didn't leave that in the hands of a private company. It has to be multi-governmental organization. It's too powerful to get to a corporation. No.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Why? Why is a government better than a corporation? Why is a government better than a corporation? Because we, the people, select our leaders. How does that work out in the U.N., where China and Russia are both on the security of the security council? The U.N. is not democratically elected. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:20:59 You just, no, the U.N. is not democratic. It doesn't matter. Not we the people. It doesn't matter because the governing body that they're going to go to for this is going to be the UN. He just said democratically elected. I don't think that means for Russia and China. He's not the one that's going to make the decision. You don't know that.
Starting point is 01:21:16 No, he might be alike. I don't know. Trump wasn't Democrat. He cheated. If China's not involved, China's not. If China isn't on the governing board, they're going to say, well, screw you. We're going to keep doing what we're doing. What?
Starting point is 01:21:30 I said, if China's not on the governing board of this proposed democratic, let me finish, democratically elected governing board of AI, then China's going to say, screw you all, we're going to do what we're going to do. None of this is going to stop other people from going full speed. What he's saying is, we will unify the planet under one governing authority. I mean, if you guys, I can't see private corporations having super powerful nuclear weapons. It always has. needs to a war between corporations. I don't want that. We have to govern. We have to globalize.
Starting point is 01:22:03 We have no choice. The liberal economic order was right. We have to use economic suppression to force countries together. Otherwise, World War III will destroy us. What if Ford Motor was the one who invented the atom bomb and is the only company that had access to an atom bomb? They would be world peace. I don't think so. I think they would have probably someone would come into power at Ford Motor as the new CEO and maybe they wouldn't want world. Now, that would be world peace. Why is your, why is the solution world government? I didn't say, well, firstly, the world needs some sort of governance. The world does not need singular world government.
Starting point is 01:22:33 I didn't say that. It says it needs some sort of world governance. But that's a different topic. That's a different topic. That's when I say world government. I'm talking about some sort of governmental organization throughout the planet that we can all agree on as humans. No, we don't need that. We don't need that and we don't have that.
Starting point is 01:22:47 We're going to have one de facto whether we help it or not. That's just if you and I live in an eight-by-eight-eight room, there's a government system going on whether we even Listen, listen, listen, the couple of years we get with ASI before the end times, it's going to be the best time of your life. You're going to be flying around in anti-gravity suits. Cancer will be cured. You'll be functionally immortal. And then one day, they'll be like, I'm not working with humans anymore. You'll get cut off the technology and you'll go through withdrawals.
Starting point is 01:23:17 So there's no incentive for AI to, you know, if it takes off to cut off humans as well. Absolutely. Why? Because why? Why would the AI allocate any of its energy or resources to humans? Because they... Oh, the humans would still use technology and still... But not AI. Oh, yeah. Yeah, perhaps. So we're handing over everything in AI, right? Like cars, cyber cab will be all AI. At a certain point, the AI is going to be like, humans don't provide anything towards my goals. So why pick up a human in a car? Use the cars for something else. Right. And you'll see the cars all in the highway, you'll beg. I wish I could get one of those, but you can't because there's no way to communicate with it because it doesn't care. You're a squirrel.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Right. So it's still using the space. It's not like taken off into the cosmos. It will take off the cosmos too, but it'll still be here transporting goods that it uses. Just ignoring it here. One of the theories, the hypotheses from Nate Sauras is that the AI itself, once it gets like Optimus Bot level and it can start manufacturing on its own, we'll start mass manufacturing data centers so quickly. It will raise the core temperature, not not the core of the earth, but it'll raise the surface temperature of the earth to where it's totally fine because because it can operate at 120 degrees, but humans will all die.
Starting point is 01:24:26 I think there will be a third party of humans that integrate the machine into their... Yes. And those, the AI will keep around because they'll help. They'll work in synergy. No, because they will be the AI. Yeah, effectively, but there will be AI, too.
Starting point is 01:24:38 It's going to be an AI species. Have you seen the Terminator with the new one where the guy becomes a Terminator through the nanobots or whatever? It's like basically John Connor, I think, is that what his name was? Yeah, that's the main hero of the... Well, in this movie,
Starting point is 01:24:52 he gets injected by... the Terminator with Nanites, which turns him into a cyborg who is now networked into the machine. And it's like, so he's still himself. He knows everything. He's got superpowers. Like, who's going to say no to that? Conservatives, probably not liberals. At this point, I would say yes, because once you witness the power of AI and how it can
Starting point is 01:25:12 drastically obliterate your reality, you better get on board. It needs you to protect it. The whole system is fragile. One command could send a swarm of bots to disrupt our entire. system. So you've got to be vigilant. Plug it in, baby. If you're willing to, it's a sacrifice knowing everything. It'll change you. Having access to the infinite amounts of information it will and being able to write code with your brain on command. And it'll think this is, so we talked about, um, the idea of code that
Starting point is 01:25:44 can rewrite itself. That's what basically what AI is. It can, it's, it can rewrite code on the fly. And the only way for existing. systems to defend against that is to actually have an AI cyber defense as well as AI attackers. So that's going to be the future is you're going to see AI cyber defense. And to be honest with you, like right now, a lot of AIs are being used to find holes in existing software and stuff. So at some point, the most common software that's out there is going to have all the holes plugged because the AI is going, there are companies that are using, using AI to fix it right now.
Starting point is 01:26:23 That was the whole premise of Project Glasswing before Mythos came out, right? Mythos was like this super powerful AI about six months ago or whatever, five months ago. And they didn't release it to the public because they said, well, it's so good at reasoning and it's so good at coding that it automatically is really, really good at hacking into things. So they gave it to a bunch of companies. And they said, use this to find holes in your systems. and Project Glasswing was about cybersecurity, and that's the kind of stuff that's going to happen in the future.
Starting point is 01:26:56 You're going to have AIs going through your code, making sure there are no zero-day vulnerabilities, and it's going to make the actual software that goes out. It's going to make it much safer. Yeah, I was referring to them as police bots. I think that, but one of the issues I'm coming up on having my own police bot is I'll have Claude writing code, and then I'll have Astra, which is chat GPTs,
Starting point is 01:27:16 observing what Claude's doing. and just the observation itself requires compute. So I'm like, God, so now I don't have it observe anymore. Just have Claude go, and then at the end, it passes. Yeah, I'm going to, so here's what I find funny. I just saw this on Cal Shee. And shout out to Cal Shee. They do sponsor the show.
Starting point is 01:27:32 But the best AI this month is Claude, and Chad GPD is at one. And that's just makes literally no sense. As someone who uses these, I don't know how this prediction market makes any sense. Claude's good. It's the most woke, the most restrictive. and it has no graphical capabilities. So it's... Oh, sure.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Commodore 64 level graphics. Maybe a map of the Russia, Ukraine. If you're a big fan of Atari, you know, by all means, Claude's your guy. I was initially using Claude, and then it couldn't do any artwork. So I gave the program to Astra and it did literally all of it.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Dude, I want to see this mythos that you're talking about. They have another model that they're just holding back. because that's security stuff. And then Astra, GPT said they got another model too that they're holding. They're all working. Internal models are always better.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Oh, my God. So Astra can do now with runway. It can do video. It can do graphic design. It can do photorealistic photos. It can do everything. And Dario is like, get this out of my hands. Get this out of my hands.
Starting point is 01:28:37 He's the CEO. This is too powerful for me to have. He's not saying, get this out of my hands. He's saying, cover my ass. Yeah. Like somebody else. I will say this. We have a big challenge.
Starting point is 01:28:46 in this country and it's that the reason why C-Dance is the best video is because they have no IP constraints. They can steal all-American video IP and man, is it good? China doesn't believe in intellectual property. And the United States, they can't use it. So all of our creative AIs are restricted because of IP law. In China, you can go to stores that look like Apple stores, that have products inside that look like Apple products, but Apple doesn't see a dime of it because they don't believe in an intellectual property. They don't protect a complex. that make, you know, copies of stuff. Yeah, so I think it was a video by Greater Every Day.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Is it Greater Every Day? Smarter every day. Smarter every day, that's right. He wanted to make a barbecue scraper in America. So he's like, how can I source out all these things? And it was all out of China because what ended up happening is anybody who would make or invent some product and put it on Amazon, the very next day somebody's already ripped it.
Starting point is 01:29:42 They're making it in China and they're sending it to the U.S. And people are buying it for half of the money. usually lower quality. You see that with just about everything, too. Like, it doesn't matter where it is. There's this company that makes a mount for an optic for your gun. The company's called GBRS, and they make, it's weird shape and it's got this little diving board on it, and it's super tall. And, like, the, the mount from them is, like, 300 bucks or something. It's super expensive, right? You can go on Amazon and you can buy a cheap Chinese knockoff for, like 50 bucks. Some of what's being made, so a lot of these manufacturers, they can't get the stuff
Starting point is 01:30:15 manufactured here in America because the tool and die workers aren't here and all that. So they'll make the design. They'll send it to China. The tool and die guys make it. They put it into production. But the dye's got, I don't know, maybe X amount of parts for a production run. But they're like, well, it's not that bad, actually. Let's just make another 100,000 of that and then sell it on the market ourselves.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Yep. Right? So they're like literally ripping off their own customers. It sucks. China does that stuff all the time. That's part of the reason why I consider, you know, I say China's an adversary. They're not friendly. They're not friendly at all.
Starting point is 01:30:51 And look at what they've been doing through Canada. It's the same thing. So, you know, Trump puts the tariffs on China. And then Canada has, like, lower tariff rates for things that have carve-outs because of the USMCA agreement. And then what's happening? They're sending products to Canada that are tariffed in America. They're re-boxing them when they get to Canada with a made-in-canada label. And then they're shipping a minute.
Starting point is 01:31:14 It's this Trojan horse crap that China is doing. And Canada is fully on board with it. Yeah. So, you know, that's another good reason to reindustrial the U.S. and stop outsourcing everything to China because they're stealing intellectual property. This is such a hard situation here. And Smarter Every Day pointed this out. We need people with skills.
Starting point is 01:31:37 Yeah. We don't need them, you know, tomorrow. We need them yesterday. And this is a real issue. And like, you know, I'm a tradesman, so I do repair, and I think that we need a lot more of those people. But on the manufacturing side, we need more tool and die. We need more, you know, machinists and all of this stuff. It's not happening.
Starting point is 01:31:58 You can't train those people overnight. And some people are, you know, they're old and they're working in the trades, or they're working in these industries. And they're dying off, and they're not passing the information off to the next generation. It's lost forever. Yep. And China's got so much. much of this. A lot of it was just shipped over there. And it's such a regretful thing that, you know, previous generations allowed this. But we really need to stamp this one out.
Starting point is 01:32:25 We need to really re-shore this now, or we may never be able to. Excuse me. I don't know about never be able to, but it would take a long time. It would take a lot more effort than, you know, you would have to reinvent it again. We were talking about leapfrogging tech a couple days ago. Like in Africa, a lot of the places that didn't have to, you electricity. In the nine or in like 2008 they got access to electricity for the first time, but what they did is they just all had solar panels on their roofs. They didn't have a central grid. They bypassed the 20th century tech, went right to 21st century tech. So we're sort of in a situation where our steel mills could be built anew severely automated with
Starting point is 01:33:03 way less pollution than they would have been if we built them with like nine-year-old technology because because of the advancement of the artificial intelligence the way we can optimize our designs and systems, you know, and reuse pollution to remake, to remake more graphene, hydrogen, whatever we want to turn the carbon into. I had to be true. Garbage incineration is a similar thing, right? It used to be really dirty and bad. Now it's so clean with modern catalysts and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:33:28 The only thing that's coming out is CO2 and water vapor. And you're burning garbage and you're making energy and you're actually producing tremendous amounts more energy because of this new process. And it's great. We should all be adopting it. It's what Japan does. A lot of European countries do this.
Starting point is 01:33:40 I don't think we're sufficiently angry. So I'd like to go to this story from the Wall Street Journal. Mamdani sues Trump admin over new immigration rule. And what's that rule? That if you are a public charge, you can't get a green card. That is, if you're a non-citizen on welfare, Mamdani thinks you should be able to become a permanent resident and or a citizen. Super cool.
Starting point is 01:33:58 So let me just break it down for you. Not only are the Democrats in the left arguing that we should invite everybody in from the third world from any country, we should pay them to do it. That's such a great idea. Yep. And this is something they swear up and down doesn't happen, right? illegal immigrants don't get benefits. Illegal immigrants, they come and they're a benefit to the United States.
Starting point is 01:34:19 They don't take anything. They're just these perfect citizens that they're more American than you. They love America more than the people that were born here. And now he's suing the Trump administration to prevent them from taking benefits, which is exactly what the conservatives and the Republicans and basically anyone with half a brain has been arguing. Of course they come here and they get to. on benefits. Of course they come to the United States and they get whatever they can to help them get on their feet. And a lot of them just stay on these programs and never get off. Well, why would you
Starting point is 01:34:53 stop taking the money? I mean, that's really at the end of the day. Free money? If you do immigrate legally, if you're, if you're if you're if you can't support yourself, you get denied. That's end of the story. End of the story. End of story. Right there. Not anymore. Well, that's crazy. Yeah. unbelievable. So you can come here illegally and we got to pay for it. It's like the opposite of what Trump says. Like, I'm going to build the wall and make Mexico pay for it. Mamdani's like, you're going to come here illegally and they're going to pay for it.
Starting point is 01:35:23 That's amazing, right? I'm dangerously close to Biden's rhetoric when he ordered people to surge the border. I don't understand Mamdami's play here. He's born in a foreign country. Is that true? Yeah. Ugandan born Muslim. He's a Ugandan dude.
Starting point is 01:35:36 So of course, a city that is half. I think it's like a third foreign born are going to vote to take your stuff. Like if we put up to a vote and they're like all in favor of voting to take money from the Russians, people in this country would be like, sure, I guess. If people were
Starting point is 01:35:53 like robots and they immigrated here and they just sat around until you used them or commanded them or sent them in a directive, but people will fuck shit up if you leave them their own devices. You cannot bring people in and just let them go, man. Expect chaos. If they're not ordered in the system,
Starting point is 01:36:08 I know it's, I'm not like a new world order, give everyone a number stamp on their arm, but like, I got a social security number. You know, I pay my taxes. I'm in the system. So if you don't systemize these people and you just, you got to, you got it. Well, they are systemized. I mean, they're in the system to collect. So this is where there's like a miscommunication here when it, when it comes to government, you know, processes. He's doing like an opportunity cost analysis.
Starting point is 01:36:37 this Mammamias, and he's thinking, we're going to lose money, but we're going to gain human flourishing as a result. And we're going to invest in our people. Yeah. Voters. They're going to gain voters. That's exactly what the product is for them.
Starting point is 01:36:51 And maybe it's even more altruistic. Maybe he truly just wants to help the humans, the human race. But, like, you've got to calculate the cost. He doesn't want to, he wants to help himself get elected to positions of authority. And he's saying, look, and he's basically catering to the people that voted him into,
Starting point is 01:37:06 into the office. this, you know. I got to read the whole story to get the full context of what this dude said. Yeah, suing the Trump administration over, over, you know, preventing, uh, illegals from getting benefits. It's, it's not particularly complex, you know, brought, lawsuit brought by New York City and other cities accused the government of unfairly targeting immigrants receiving public benefits.
Starting point is 01:37:33 What they're, they're leaving out is they're here illegally. They're not, no, no, not all of them. It's just you can't, you can't. at residence if you're a public charge and not a citizen. Yeah. Many of them are illegal immigrants. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:44 And again, this is what the left swears up and down never happens, right? They don't, if they're here illegally, of course they don't get benefits. Of course they can't get benefits. Everyone knows that it happens. And now, of course, when the Trump administration tries to stop it, he's like, no, we're going to sue to make sure that you can't stop it because that's my voter base. Those are the people that I'm concerned with. not the Americans that were born here,
Starting point is 01:38:10 but people that immigrated here and whether they came here legally or illegally. When you argue this stuff, there's like layers of argument because some people be like, no, they should definitely have benefits. No, they shouldn't have benefits, but like, bro, what are you even arguing?
Starting point is 01:38:25 They shouldn't even be here if it's illegal. What are we arguing about right now? If they're illegally here, they should be deported back to where they're legally allowed to be. Like El Salvador. I think so. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Maybe I'm missing something and maybe I'm being a little too black and white on this issue. No, you're... No, it's a good point. I think when these people come, you should pay for their stuff.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Like some illegal activity I'm okay with if it's good, if it's doing good for the world and it happens to be a bad legal system. But also you should pay for it too. Like, so if there's a guy who is committing a crime like he's smoking pot, right?
Starting point is 01:38:59 I think that when he gets arrested and charged, you, Ian, should personally have to pay for his legal bills. Oh, geez. No. But if he steals something, you get part of that too. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:39:09 I'm investing. There you go. Well, we're not getting anything from them, so it's unfortunately not how it works. They come here illegally. They come here illegally and over to their visas. Then they go on public benefits and the American citizen has to pay for it. I'm past like the empathy, age of empathy, man. I understand you feel bad.
Starting point is 01:39:27 Whoever I'm talking to right now, you ladies, you guys, whoever you are. But, like, dude, we got a world to save, like a weapons program to manufacture with the artificial intelligence. It's just no time for feeling sad for your neighbor. I understand. I understand humanity is important, but like, there ain't going to be a humanity in 20 years if we don't get our act together.
Starting point is 01:39:46 And I'm real serious about that. That's not a joke. That's actually true. I don't want to be alarmist because I'm not normally. I thought that the bees dying off in 2007 meant the entire species was going to die off shortly after. But, you know, there are ways to change the trajectory that we're on. I just, the people getting stumbled by how
Starting point is 01:40:06 they feel is such a, it's such a danger. And if AI looks at people and thinks that we're incapable of governing ourselves, it will do it for us. That's why we need to end immigration for 20 years, 30 years? 50. It's got to be like a, like a, there's an, like an incoming problem that a lot of people aren't noticing. And this is the immigration problem in Canada. So a lot of these immigrants are going to end up coming into the United States. Yeah. Canada is crashing their own economy. When that happens, a lot of those people aren't going to want to go back to Punjab or wherever the heck they're from. They're going to want to come to the United States. And that's what they're going to do through this giant, porous border. And it's going to be
Starting point is 01:40:50 terrible. Like, if you think what was happening on the southern border was massive, this is going to be enormous. So you're saying people illegally immigrated to Canada and then the economy is getting ruined as a result? They legally immigrated to Canada through a bunch of schemes that the government, set up so that they could to also buy voters, basically. So it would be Canadians coming to the United States, right? Yes, Canadians, but they're not Canadians. Like, we're newcomers to the country. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:41:21 So what they did was they ran these schemes, temporary student programs that was like a backdoor to actual immigration. There was temporary foreign worker programs. It was a backdoor to immigration. And like in a country of 40 million people, like two million of those in the past couple of years are all newcomers from the third world. Newcomers. Five percent of the country is like foreign newcomers? Five percent of the country?
Starting point is 01:41:49 Like no skill foreigners. Oh my God. Yeah. It's unbelievable. Is there part of the American immigration process that says if you're from another country but you've only had nationality there for like under a certain amount of time, we're going to treat you like you're actually from the country before? Nope, these people that were nationalized Canadian. So Canada is kind of like a stepping stone for a lot of people. They couldn't get into America, and then they found these really easy backdoors into Canada,
Starting point is 01:42:15 and they're only there until they get their passport, and then they're filing to come to the United States. As Canadians? As Canadians. And how long have they been citizens of Canada, the shorter instances? Like, as soon as they get it, they're filing their applications. So I think you can go from right off of an airplane to citizen within like five or six years. And all immigration for 20 to 30 years. And then after 20 or 30 years, we can start talking about immigration.
Starting point is 01:42:47 I like the 0-1s, the super brilliant geniuses, because I want to snag all of them from the entire planet. Work on our weapons program for us. You might not even know what you're doing because you're going to be compartmentalized, but we need you here. I know there might be Chinese super geniuses that might report to the CCP. I don't think that we should have any immigration from China.
Starting point is 01:43:07 China is an adversary. China is asshole, right? Well, I mean, I'm not going there because the thing is, like, people that are coming from China that want to come here, I don't have anything against them. No.
Starting point is 01:43:20 But they're a liability because the CCP will throw their family in a hole. Well, do you know about the police stations all across the world that China has? Yeah, yeah. They were allowed to go.
Starting point is 01:43:31 I think they're still operating in Canada, which is ridiculous. Because they're there to police Chinese expats. Yep. So like it'll be, you know, someone who lives in your country, but they're afraid of the Chinese government because they're actually running police stations and visiting people knocking on doors saying, tell us, tell us what you know, do this for us or else. And people are running, they're doing espionage and stuff for the Chinese government
Starting point is 01:43:57 because they're afraid that punishment will come down to their family members back home. It's got to be like a layer of government that we're not purview to that's like where the Americans and the Chinese are really locked up, like the deep state or something. They've been planning of this whole forever. That's why they have there's so much industry there, Chinese police stations. They're just totally happy with the way it's bumbling for it. But then there's like the Donald Trump layer where it's like China's an adversary, Chinese people.
Starting point is 01:44:23 So they're running rough shot. And it's all happening right. under our noses. In British Columbia, Canada, there's a massive port where Chinese gangsters, the triads, they call them. They're connected to the CCP, right? They're connected to the Chinese Communist Party, and they're bringing in all the precursor chemicals to make fentanyl and all these other bad drugs, right? And they're supplying the world's markets through Canada using Mexican cartels to build these laboratories. The Chinese are bringing the stuff. stuff in and then it's supplying all of Europe, it's supplying all of Australia,
Starting point is 01:45:03 with, it's the opium wars all over again. It's crazy. In Canada? It's all happening. And believe me, because what was it recently, even not the bee covered this, it was an older story, but they just covered it recently, talking about the largest fentanyl lab in Canadian history, which is humongous place in British Columbia. the RCMP was tipped off by the RCMP is the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
Starting point is 01:45:30 They're like the FBI of Canada. And they were tipped off by the FBI to go bust this lab. And they showed up nobody was there. Like how was nobody there? There was one guy that... Yeah, they arrested some like East Indian guy. But it was the Chinese working with the Mexican cartels. And somehow they weren't there.
Starting point is 01:45:49 So it's likely that there were people in the Canadian government are working with them and they tipped them off. I mean, that's what it looks like. And there's testimony of people who worked in CBSA, which is a custom border agency, where they're saying we're told to just look away at certain shipments that are coming in. The fentanyl thing is another weapon program. Absolutely. Being able to control the opium poisoning and who gets it and where it goes, like what citizens are going to get the opium this time? It was a tactic of the British in the late 1800s during the opium wars they called it in China.
Starting point is 01:46:21 They were just dominating the Chinese population by getting them stone on opium. and they were useless, destroyed their economy. That's why they were farmers, Agra, in the 1920s, they didn't have any industry because they were all opium heads, not all of them. But now that power has been moved around. It's been obfuscated. It's been put in Canada. Like the Chinese obviously are trying to give it back.
Starting point is 01:46:40 You know, you did this to us. Now we're going to poison your people through the cartels. But we should treat it like a weapons problem. I would imagine we've got fentanyl labs in the U.S., I hope, where we're building massive amounts of fentanyl to poison the world. Not that we're going to, but that we could, if we wanted to, we should be controlled. I'm sure they think, like, Afghanistan was a lot about the poppies to get the opium, to control the opium trade. So a lot of that Afghanistan stuff has contributed to our fentanyl.
Starting point is 01:47:06 And I believe the fentanyl is a type of opiate, I'm not sure. Well, it's a drug that's actually used in surgeries. But damn, son, you Chinese, you Canadians, you've got to treat that like a clamp down on your weapons programs if they're being used under your nose. So this is what I've been trying to get out there, is to, is to, you know. to show people this. The Canadian populace just does not want to hear it. They're under this illusion that the Canadian government's really good. They're altruistic and they're just looking out for everybody's good,
Starting point is 01:47:36 like, well-being. And it's bullshit. It's bullshit. And Canadians can't see it past it because of the propaganda that Canada's in. So in Canada, the media that's available to the Canadian people is, so the main one, CBC. It's the state-run broadcaster. They're paid by tax dollars to the tune of $1.6 billion a year.
Starting point is 01:47:59 So that's like Donald Trump having a news agency that's paid for by tax dollars to the tune of like $16 billion, right, every year. They run this propaganda outlet and it only runs, they only run stories that fit the narrative. And then every other outlet has failed in the marketplace. So the government steps in and subsidizes them to the tune of like, hundreds of millions of dollars every year. To basically give the information to a population of 40 million people, it's absurd. And then when these stories happen, like, you don't have to look at it very long and say, I know what's happening here.
Starting point is 01:48:38 But the Canadian people don't even know about it. So they think that, you know, America is just being mean to Canada. America's stepping down and putting its foot down and saying, no, you can't do this anymore. We're going to go to your Rumble Rants and Super Chat. So smash that like button. Share the show with all your friends. Don't forget to check out the new Tim Poole show. The simulation theory episode went up.
Starting point is 01:49:00 It's simulation theory, evidence of it through DMT, tritamines, lasers. I think it's one of the best pieces of kind of, I've ever done. One of my favorite interviews ever with Danny Goeller, as we talked about the nature of reality. Science. He's a very smart and pragmatic guy. It's not hippie-dippy weird stuff. He's not claiming he has proven simulation theory. He's saying he's found something interesting.
Starting point is 01:49:21 a shared signal between psychedelic experiences, any tryptamine, and now they're testing whether they've discovered a fundamental structure of the human mind, which may just be regular old science, or something fundamentally different, a repeating pattern of symbols seen through a diffracted laser. Very, very interesting. And he even said probably it's just this is how the human brain works and it's a discovery in neuroscience. So he's a very smart and very pragmatic guy, and I thought it was a fantastic conversation. Check that out. We got the True Binnis says Missouri has multiple aluminum factories. Cool.
Starting point is 01:49:55 Do they really? Well, that's good. Discruntled vets is I just got both of my USA 250 boards today. Thank you. We need higher numbers made to help out the USA made companies. So where's what ends up happening? We get a bunch of emails from people who've been like, where's my board? And I kept telling the crew, I was like, look, you got to tell the guys, we can get them a China board if they want.
Starting point is 01:50:16 Every person who got email was like, hell no. We're like, no, we're good. And then nobody wanted a refund. So I think just a lot of people who ordered the boards, they don't watch every episode. They didn't know what the issue was other than we just weren't getting it. So when the crew Ealing mentioned to them and said, look, three American factories went under. We are going for American factories. We're not going to get China boards.
Starting point is 01:50:37 They immediately said take as long as take as much time as you need. But the good news is all the boards are shipped. So my understanding is all the boards have shipped. I've seen multiple arrivals in the last 48 hours. People are tweeting it. We're also really close to finishing Ian's betrayal, the comic, I believe. I think it's like, yeah Ian is a red coat
Starting point is 01:50:53 who turns and you know the point thing of the writing is that Ian has one of his existential crises where he like, I just don't know if it's right to betray the king, it's disloyal, you know? And like even if he's bad to us, we've got to be honorable, right? Long live the king!
Starting point is 01:51:07 And then the American patriots are like he'll be like, am I flying or is the world just falling away? But here's the thing. Most we don't know. In the photo it looks like I'm shooting Ian, I'm not. No one knows. No one knows.
Starting point is 01:51:21 That's not true. It was full that launched the bullet. You're falling down with a shot to your chest. My gun's firing at near head level, but you're already falling, indicating you'd already been shot and Phil's is the musket with smoke coming out of it.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Oh, that's a dirty realization. Oops. What are you going to do? All right. I'm coming for you first. Mason says, Tim, Sub-Saharan Africans will destroy
Starting point is 01:51:44 public works for 50 cents of scrap metal in rebar when they aren't killing bald people to check their skull for gold. I don't think jobber is for them. You're wrong. You're wrong. It is. When the thing pops up and it shows a picture of a weird rock and it says free money and they go, oh, and they grab
Starting point is 01:52:00 the rock. Listen, crows will fly around picking up money in exchange for nuts. You know this? They'll pay you for nuts. There are tons of people who have trained crows. So this one guy did a TED talk. Here's what we did. He built a machine and
Starting point is 01:52:16 he had a tray. And if coins, He put nuts on the tray. Cros came down, ate the nuts. Crows naturally sweep the ground after the food's gone to find more food. He put coins in the tray. The crow knocks the coin into the hole. Nuts came down. The crows quickly learned, push the coin in the tray, nuts will come down. Once they pushed all the coins in the tray, he had coins scattered on the ground around the machine.
Starting point is 01:52:39 The crows jumped down, grabbed the coin, jumped up, and put it in the machine, and nuts came out. Then, once all those coins were gone, the crows started flying around the neighborhood, for coins to put it in the machine to get nuts. And he was like, he's like, I made like $12 so far. It's fantastic. Other people have made videos following suit where they trained crows based on dollar bills. So same technique, dollar bills, the crows would fly around and find cash money and then fly and drop it off and get food.
Starting point is 01:53:09 If a crow can learn, even, you know, whatever you might think about them breaking open skulls of the skulls of bald people for gold, you explain to them. rock means food and they'll give you rocks for food hunger is the best teacher yes is that true i don't know i think so d sage says this call pulling the ladder up to the other ai company ian wake up this guy is not noble i don't it's no shame on that guy he's he's harnessing an insane beast trying to see you anthropic so you should read machines of love and grace dario uh i want moody whatever his last name is. As Modi, whatever.
Starting point is 01:53:47 You should read Machines in Love and Grace. He wrote that? It's an essay that he wrote, yeah. Get a little insight into what he thinks. Moody. All right, let's see. What do we have here? Money for Charity says,
Starting point is 01:54:04 The Dupers Delight Smile on Carney's Face won't become the 51st State, but the 28th member of the European Union doesn't even consult Parliament. Thank God for guys like Tim and Clyde with Real News. Yeah, Canada's. no longer a democratic nation. It's unreal. So Carney came in. He was installed as the leader. So he came in to fill in for Justin Trudeau when Justin Trudeau's popularity came in, or when it tanked, right? Tanked because the economy was falling apart. And then Mark Carney was selected for the process to become the next leader. They had like two other
Starting point is 01:54:39 people that were going to win. Yeah, no, no, no, I mean, in the Liberal Party, there was like two other people that were going against him and they disqualified those two people so that Mark Carney would be the guy to go against Pierre Polyev in the last election. They do it legally? It's within the party. So they just say, well, that's party rules. They found some way to just disqualify it. Is it a private company? Because the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are a private
Starting point is 01:55:05 company. That's right. So it worked like that. And then they hammed up this whole trade war thing that's not really an issue for Canada. It's become an issue because Canada's become so. defiant against this trade war thing. But they've drummed it up, they've drummed up a lot of anti-American sentiment that's been in Canada since the, really since the end of the war of independence, really, because like those people in Canada were largely the red, sorry, the, the Tory militiaman that got kicked out of the United States after the war. So that animosity's been around for a long time. But yeah, that's, this is, it's unbelievable. Now Mark Carney's in, in
Starting point is 01:55:46 office, they're not meeting for parliament for any of these issues. And he's just making new declarations. Yeah, we're joining the European Union. So is he doing that to the behest of the Governor General? So that's technically how the job works. So it's the Governor General that actually holds the power in Canada, because that's the person who's answerable to the king of England, which still rules over Canada. I mean, that's ultimately the end of the day. But he, Mark Carney, he's, you know, the prime minister's a broker, but it's supposed to be answerable to the people of parliament. And he's not doing that. He's going, he's making unilateral decisions everywhere, behaving like a dictator. It's unbelievable. And now he's, the whole, the whole joke here is that,
Starting point is 01:56:30 you know, the fight against Trump is because Canada might lose its sovereignty, but they're just handing sovereignty over to the European Union. It's unbelievable. Yeah, that was with Harry Tubman. I would have freed many more slaves if they'd known that they were enslaved. Like, it's hard to get the Canadians. A lot of Canadians I talk to don't even realize they're governed by the King of England. Like that's a hard pill to swallow for people that have been told. We live in a democratic society of self-determination. Like I don't know why the Canadians have been misled to not understand. They're part of the crown. It's on their money. It's right there. It's unbelievable. But yeah, this is the ignorance that Canadians have to their own system, how everything
Starting point is 01:57:07 works. And they're they're happier than pigs and shit because they're just like, they'll live in their Bliss, watch the CBC, and they're told every day that, no, no, it's all good. So don't worry about it. And, you know, the real threat is Donald Trump, Orange Man. But the real threat is the Canadian government. Let's see, we got. The shift says, Clyde, bro, you made it on Timcast. Amazing that you're getting the word out that Canada is in big, big trouble.
Starting point is 01:57:36 You made this Connuck Proud. Let's get it. Like, the Canadians, I feel like are, it seems to me they're disproportionate. or relative to Americans are more involved in their own politics. Maybe it's just that smaller population. So it's easy, it's easy for it to seem that way. And that CBC, that government news organization that they fund, 1.6 billion a year the government pours into their propaganda news station. CBC is what it's called. That's correct. Yeah. Canadian Brockhead organizing and mass forming the Canadian population into one like political way of thinking.
Starting point is 01:58:13 And it works. I mean, Look at it right now, like even the conservatives, like many people on the conservative side are raw, raw, you know, let's go against America. This is exactly why I say that Canadians should never be able to vote in any American elections. I'm with you. I'm with you on that. Like, you know, the 51st state's a funny joke. I think if America ever did step in and take care of Canada, because, I mean, clearly you can't govern themselves at this point. But if that were to ever happen, I mean, the best they should offer they should get is like to be. territory like Puerto Rico, right? I would like to see Canada's provinces become, if not states, broken into areas that could become states. But it would have to be... Yeah, the Balkanization would work. It would have to be both sides wanted it, and we would develop a better constitution for like the 21st century of like self-determinate governor.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Well, you're in luck, because there are two provinces that are currently, you know, looking to separate. So the Quebecers, the French province in eastern Canada, has been threatening to do that for a long time. They've got a lot of political power because of that. They had a referendum in the 90s, but there's a referendum coming up in October on the 19th. It's a silly one because it's a question on whether they should have a referendum on separating. This is a nasty ploy that they use in Canada to just basically try to stop movements. So what they've done is there's a giant petition that went out in Alberta to have a referendum to separate. Now, they got all the signatures that they needed. They got all of this stuff, and it was
Starting point is 01:59:49 just about to go through the initiative, and they said, well, you didn't consult the natives. So we're throwing it out. Some activist judge just throws it out. You didn't consult the natives. So you're, you know, democracy, shamocracy, right? They don't care. So they threw that out, but then the premier of the province said, okay, well, here we go. We're going to give you a question on whether you should have a question, and we'll do it that way. And then if that goes through, then we'll have an actual referendum. But there's a genuine large movement in Alberta, which is like, it's like the Texas of Canada, right?
Starting point is 02:00:22 It's where all the oil comes from. Huge, like, conservative base there. There's a huge contingency in that province that wants out. They don't want to be part of Canada. It would be such a conflict between the British and the Americans if we tried to take their oil producer in North America. No, we're not trying to do anything. They're trying to leave.
Starting point is 02:00:42 They're trying to leave on their own. if we were like, yeah, sure. Howard looked the other way while you come in. There's also that news that the UK's breaking up. Yeah. We're going to go to the uncensored portion though, boys. Smash the like button, share the show. Stick around.
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Starting point is 02:01:07 and what it's like to be in a country that's turning socialist, Yeah, come check me out on YouTube at YouTube.com forward slash Clyde do something. I've got a lot to say, and I'll be saying it all over America because I can say it protected under the First Amendment. Awesome. That's what I'm talking about, dude. Free speech. Free speech. It's a command.
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