Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 10 - Robots, Artificial Intelligence, & Extinction?

Episode Date: November 21, 2016

Will we see robots that look, feel, and communicate in such lifelike ways that we won’t be able to tell them apart from other humans in our lifetime? When did the artificial intelligence movement begin? Is our progress with artificial intelligence leading to an inevitable, Skynet-like confrontation with future Terminator robots doomed to turn against us? Where are we at now with robot progress? (Hint: further than you think!)  When will we be having sex with sexy sexbots? (hint: sooner than you think!) Get ready to lose about 40 minutes of your life with this mind-bending, Westworld (sorry in advance for how I kept saying WestWOOD!) inspired Timesuck.

In 1955, John McCarthy, the young sweater and glasses wearin, soon to be MIT mathematical researcher, PhD in mathematics having current Dartmouth assistant professor, future Stanford professor, future wizard-looking mother fucker, and one of the early minds behind the very internet itself organized the first conference of artificial intelligence. A term he coined. John wanted to explore ways to make a machine that could reason like a human was capable of abstract thought, problem solving, and self-improvement. He believed that every aspect of learning or any other feature of intelligence can in principle

be so precisely described that a machine can be made to simulate it. Those are his words. He also thought artificial intelligence would rival or even surpass human intelligence Somewhere between five and five hundred years before passing away in 2011 and maybe just maybe like most dudes when it comes to AI On some level he wanted a sweet sweet sex robot probably Find out how close we are or not to achieving John's Find out how close we are, or not to achieving John's futuristic vision of living with humanoid robots in this definitely sci-fi possibly dystopian, maybe even a little bit perverted, sonic adventure that is today's topic.

Topic? Topic. I'm so excited. I can't even say the word topic. It was suggested to me by Jeremy Judd via Facebook. Thank you, Jeremy. I've wasted several days of my life and I hope you are better for it. It sucked into this thing because man, I had no idea how much shit was out there.

And I didn't say the tip of the iceberg with this. I feel like some of you, hopefully many of you are going to be doing even more research yourselves, digging deep on this one. There are definitely a few others I'm already looking forward as far as topics to spending hours of my life researching and look forward to future suggestions. And yeah, I have a little list going currently so I apologize to that. I apologize to you if I'm not getting to yours right away, but there's just so many things I'm curious about. And you know, and sometimes if a topic doesn't resonate with me, I just can't make a good episode about it. And also, this is the first episode I've recorded

since the election, and I just, this is going to take 30 seconds. It's going to be relatively painless. Let's just get this shit out of the way. I was moving last week and the Corey Hame Time Suck was previously recording, so that's why I'm just addressing. Now, thanks for all the great feedback on that one, by the way, in RIP, again, Mr. Hame. Not gonna dig into the election results too deeply. Because I was reminded after making a few angry posts on Wednesday after the election on social media

that the wound is still too fresh for those who voted for Hillary And that a lot of people who voted for Mr. Trump are the Sorist fucking winners. I've ever come across my goddamn life. You fucking won So comp so enjoy it if you voted for him Really and then somebody makes a Facebook post about like I don't like him and you just like And have to fucking attack. Dude, are you fucking kidding me? That's like, you know, what somebody wins their basketball game, and the loser's like,

I don't like to lose, and then you're like, fuck you, motherfucker, we won, respect that shit. You're an asshole, you're a fucking asshole. So calm down. But I'm not gonna go into conservative or liberal politics. I am just going to say that I'm ashamed of myself. First, I'm sticking my head in the political scene for the past decade. And I just plan on being a lot more politically conscious and active going forward.

And I hope everybody else, liberal, conservative, in between everything else, does the same. You know, because I definitely took this, or made camp in this place of the, who gives a shit, systems broken, and fucking doesn't matter what I do, I stayed there way too long. And that's not cool, you know? That's not helping anything. And just like I do in this podcast,

when you're doing your research on whoever it is you wanna vote for, please just find credible and multiple sources to base your opinions on, as opposed to Wikipedia or Alex Jones for example. And I hope we can just begin to talk to each other. Blue and red alike. Figure out what's truly best for all of us, all cultures, all colors, all dick and vagina preferences and combos, whatever system you're working with, whatever system you'd like to have, whatever system you'd like to play with As long as it's adult fucking let's be clear on that

You know, I hope we can all just talk so so here we go. I got I got I picked this this time suck a topic this week again from Jeremy Be a lot largely because of westwood Super into that show right now. This is the show on HBO and holy shit I'm so I got an artistic appreciation boner from just bringing holy shit. I got an artistic appreciation a boner from just bringing it up. I am rock hard with excitement for Westwood. I'm only seven episodes in. That's where I'm at right now. And I'm not gonna spoil it. I'm not gonna spoil it. I'm not gonna be that guy. If you're worried about that right now, what an asshole that guy is by the way. You know, it's one thing if

you're talking about a show from like what an asshole that guy is by the way. You know, it's one thing if you're talking about a show from like five years ago, and you spoil something, that's on the personal listening, all right? You had a good half decade to catch up on that shit. So you're bad, you know, if you're upset. But yeah, when somebody is talking about a show, it's currently like you've missed just one episode behind and there's been a big buildup

and then they just ruined it without asking. I just want lightning to fucking strike them. You know, maybe not kill them, but you know, shake them up for a little while. Like, and strike them like immediately after spoiling it so they make a connection between spoiling things and getting a mother nature zap. But if you haven't seen Westworld,

I just wanna bring it to speed on it. It's just like this futuristic, again, it's this HBO show that I wish I was, I was gonna say I wish I was a part of it. I'm so into it. It's like I would love to, maybe I wouldn't love to work on that though. You know, that's probably learned

working in the past five years and some other random shows. As you're like, oh man, it'd be so fun to work in this. And then maybe, or maybe you got a psychotic boss, who makes you stay fucking long hours, day after day, serving their vision, and no matter how good that vision is, long hours suck.

One of the many reasons I became a comic. Okay, so what Westworld is this, it's this futuristic theme park and oh my god, the fucking CGI is goddamn incredible on this. But it's like, and it's just an amazing concept. I guess it was a Michael Cricht movie for me. I never actually saw the original movie and maybe it was a book before that. Those facts are irrelevant to today's discussion. But anyway, like people can basically, you pay $40,000 and you take this train out into this huge,

vast expanse, what looks like Utah, this huge gigantic desert train, like hundreds of square miles, and there's basically like this badass, resort kind of hotel in the middle of this, and then you can take a little train from that resort into the actual theme park itself, which is stylized in the likings of the Wild West, hence Westworld. And it's crazy. It's virtual reality meets reality. There's like these Wild West towns, like a variety of towns in this world that you become a character in. and there's brothels, saloons, shops,

a lot of times spent focusing on the brothels by the way and I'm not complaining. Heavy boobs, heavy boobage in this series and quality boobs. I said that's if that's like a tipping point for you on shows. If you're like, man, but I'd like to watch it, but I'm not really into the Wild West, but I am super into boobs and robots. Well, hell, strap in, motherfucker, because this is the show of your life. But in, by the way, and it feels organic to me, it's not gratuitous. It just, it makes sense as they're going in the show. The nudity, it's not just like, it's not like Spartacus was on stars. If anybody saw that, we're just like, all right, we get it. People like to have sex back then.

But there's miles of miles of railroad tracks and trains or horses, wild like Native American tribes, Confederate soldiers, Union soldiers, minors, saloon keepers, and all these people, etc, etc, etc. And all the people and animals that quote unquote live in this very, very hyper realistic world are actually just robots made of synthetic tissue that looks and

feels incredibly real. The title sequence for the show actually kind of shows partly how they're made. Some kind of like merger of advanced 3D printing, nanotechnology, powerful microprocessing, and their program with super advanced artificial intelligence. So you can talk to them, seduce them, be seduced by them, hurt them, kill them, love them, go on adventures with them, because all the robots are in these loops that seem to reset, I think, daily, and each robot, well, it depends. They reset daily, depending on how long the adventure goes for people. You could go on one with multiple for multiple days, and so it won't reset until you've completed or not completed your adventure, then it goes back to the center.

Like you always start off in this one little town and the farther you get away from this town, the crazier than your adventures you can go into. And all the adventures are written by these, you know, in-house writers who create these narratives and all the robots serve these various narratives. But within these various narratives, like they will know that they're a soldier who is trying to get revenge on, and I'm just making this up, again, not spoiling anything. Let's say it's some

soldier who is, they want to get revenge on another soldier who wronged them previously, whatever. Well, you might walk into the little town and you'll like over here is this guy talking about like, man, I'm riding out and it's done. You know, he can't get away with what he did. You know, let's get this son of a bitch who's with me. And then they'll make eye contact with you and you're like, hey man, I'm in. And then they're always like, it's like an improv

kind of team, these robots too. It's very much yes and, you know, if you're saying like, I'm in, they're not gonna be like, well, fucking tough shit, fatty. You're not tough enough to fight. Get to the fucking saloon. They're never gonna shoot you down. They're gonna always gonna be like,

hell yeah, man, we need, we need to do, we need a strong man like you. It's very like, you know, they're pleasing to the ego. And so then you go in this adventure and they can shoot at you and it like if they hit you, it like it's things, it doesn't hurt you, but you can shoot them you and like if they hit you, it like it's things, it doesn't hurt you, but you can shoot them and make it look like blood fucking splatters out, like they die in a way that a real person

would die, it's fucking crazy. And then you just kind of go on and on, and then eventually if you get caught by the bad guys who they can, they can't kill you, but they can kind of like they can punch you, they can wrestle you, they can throw you in jail, and then like, you know, your adventure could be over, you know, and you can also just tap out and be like, I'm good, I've had enough, I want to go back home.

And you're paying $40,000 a day. So, you know, just after a day, you might just be like, I don't have 80 grand to continue this adventure, you know, I spent my 40, and I got to go back home. Fucking incredible though. Really crazy. And basically the show plays amongst many interesting kind of philosophical concepts such as what desires will man give into when there are no legal repercussions for his actions.

The show plays with this notion of consciousness. Basically is there any real difference between the robots and us? Like if the artificial intelligence becomes so real that the robots think that they're alive, they've been programmed with this backstory, but the backstory is as real to them. Their memories are as real to them as our memories are to us. What's the difference between them and us as far as like kind of moral things? Like if they have feelings and all this, they can feel pain, is it a moral, is it a moral to hurt them?

You know, if they become self-aware, you know, are they really different than us on a fundamental human level? Did the parks creators create beans on par with God creating humans? It kind of plays with these notions. And, you know, because I mean, other than not being able to kill humans, who the robots recognize on a subconscious level,

they can do anything that we can't within this park. And it's crazy. And then there's this kind of like, the Jeremy, the guy who brought up this topic for me to research, he referenced SkyNet, which is the Terminator movies, which in the machines rise against us. Artificial intelligence decides that humans are like a fucking pest and need to be eradicated.

And there's concerns, I think. They don't really address that in Westworld from what I've seen yet, but it's like, you know, could these things turn on us? They're definitely that, you know, not like control the world, but could they turn on us? Because the scary thing is, is our intelligence is limited by just basic or human parameters or whatever. These crazy microprocessors that these robots have, they decide how smart the robots are going to be, but they're not truly limited.

So you could be, if the robots can figure out a program themselves, with the machines are already using, they could set their intelligence to be off the fucking chart and be way smarter than us. And because the robots, they're already way stronger than us. You know, they can, if they could figure out how to repair themselves and not need humans to repair them, they could be essentially, you know, nearly immortal. They wouldn't age, you know, could they just fuck us up?

That's something that I think about watching this show. And it's something that, you know, people with artificial intelligence naturally go to, I feel like people go to two places with AI, most people, they go to like, basically companion robots, like fucking sex bots, are we gonna be able to fuck robots? They look exactly like humans. I think mostly dudes you're thinking that,

am I gonna have a hot chick who doesn't fucking sass me and thinks I'm cool, no matter how a dirt bag I am. It's such a male fantasy. And then the other places are they gonna fucking kill all of us. I think yes and yes, based on what I've dug into this episode. I think there's a very real chance that someday we could have to deal with a serious, serious robot threat because there's people making these robots right now and obviously they're not making them to kill us,

but you know, all it takes is one dickhead hacker who's really good, it's like, look at all this software out there to make our lives easier, where our credit cards are stored, you know, you got Apple Pay and your phone and you don't have to like dig through your wallet anymore and that's great, but it also means that all your credit card information is online now,

all of your identity information is online. And then a hacker and it does happen, obviously, at the 90th, after the huge, you know, widely common crime people get it. And then they take this beautiful thing that was meant to make your life better and some dickheads, use it to steal from you. Well, of course, some anarchist nihilistic dickhead, or group of dickheads,

once the robots are out there and doing cool shit, they're going to figure out how to make them kill us. And then, you know, maybe we'll be able to wipe them out, you know, I mean, that's the whole terminator thing, the whole struggle. It's like, I think we're going to have that struggle. I don't know if they're going to take us out, but I think war with robots is in the future of our species and I know that makes me sound crazy, but just listen to what I'm gonna show you on this. And so, before I wanna show you kinda where AI is now, I wanna get back to this John McCarthy and take a look at the humble beginnings of the AI movement. This is not historical podcast. Says, can't keep going historical.

This is not historical podcast. And I'm not singing my own in your song. I know, right? As much as I like to think, this is not a historical podcast. I feel like it's so hard to address topics without really digging back into them. So the question of kind of machine think like a man and what are ethical consequences,

goes back to at least the 17th century when René Decart, he wondered in this philosopher in his discourse on the method published in 1637, quote, how many different automata or moving machines, automata, sorry, not probably pronouncing it wrong, or moving machines can be made by the industry of man. For we can easily understand a machine being constituted so that it utter, it can utter

words, and even emit some responses to action on it of a corpkyl kind, which brings about a change in its organs. For instance, it touched in a particular part, it may ask if touched in a particular part, it may ask what we wish to say to it. If in another part, it may exclaim that it is being hurt and so on, but it never happens that it arranges its speeches in various ways in order to reply appropriately to everything

that may be said in its presence, or even the lowest type of man can do it. Okay, so basically, he's saying he thought back then, yeah, maybe we could make machines someday, that you know, like, yeah, you push a button, you get a certain response, but you couldn't actually have a conversation with them and have them kind of be able to improv essentially.

And that's already not true. I'm gonna show you some stuff later. That's already not true. So we've already gone farther than that. And then in much later in 1950, this early British computer scientist, Alan Turin, the same Alan Turin, played by Benedict Cumberbatch and the invitation game, developed what would later be pointed to is the ultimate test in AI, the Turin test.

And this is kind of, you know, what Descartes was talking about. He wanted to, he thought the test for artificial intelligence would be, you know, if you could prove that wrong, which is when you have a human evaluator judge a natural language conversation between a human and a machine. So a machine that's designed to generate human-like responses, and if the evaluator can't tell the difference between the human and the machine, like doesn't know who's who, then we've truly arrived at AI. And I think we're fucking close. And I can't, I'm going to get to that.

And I didn't know how close we were. My mind was blown, my mind. And again, this is something that be constantly played with on HBO's Westworld. You know, they're always checking in with the robots. It's like these constant scenes in the show, where they're kind of asking them if they're self-aware, testing their abilities to improv along.

Are they truly improving on their own, or are they improving along the themes as they were designed to do? It's crazy, it's so crazy. Yeah, but they're trying to figure out like are they basically evolving on their own? And there have been numerous critiques of the Turing test by the way, philosophers point to emotion, core values,

desires, et cetera. In addition to just communication skills, being what makes this human. And Westworld digs into that as well, like, dude, do the robots feel bad about the way the guests occasionally mistreat them? Are the robots self-aware, you know? They think they're real. And I agree with that, too.

But I think this thing where it's like, I don't know, it's also confusing. It's like, okay, even if the robots truly are just like mimicking what they think a human would say as opposed to having genuine feelings behind what they're saying, I don't know, does it really make them that difference, you know, with that distinction? I mean, there's sociopaths out there who just kind of mimic, I think what people, they think people would, normal, quote unquote, normal people would do and they just kind of mimic that. It is a robot any different than them, really.

It's such a mind-fuck. By the way, Turing never really got to expand on this test. Unfortunately, Poison himself was cyanide in 1954, at the age of 41. Or maybe Poison himself, maybe he's killed some scholars. I think he was murdered. He was persecuted for being homosexual. If only he could live long enough to program robots,

kill homophobes, homophobes, bot. Let me fucking dope robot. But let's go back to McCarthy. So this fucking wizard looking dude, who I'm gonna put a picture up on timestockpodcast.com in the episode description, because he just cracks me up. Like he looks exactly like who you would think of.

Some mad scientist dude who back in the 50s was like, yeah, I'm just gonna devote the rest of my life to AI and then pulled it off, which is just an insane thing to me when their computers were so limited the time. Yeah, he was just like, yeah, he's like a fucking wizard. Like he time traveled back then and started working on shit. So 1959, he, oh, before I hit that, sorry, this guy, he was described as always focused on the future.

He created a list, computer language, which became the standard for AI programming, still use today. So like this programming language paved the way for all kinds of stuff like Siri on the iPhone, like voice recognition software. 1959, he gets MIT's AI lab up and running, heads back to Stanford in the early 60s gets MIT's AI lab up and running. He heads back to Stanford in the early 60s, gets that AI lab up and running.

He ran the homebrew computer club for Silicon Valley, hobbyist in the 70s, members like Steve, mother fucking jobs, maybe you've heard of him. The God of Apple, the guy who invented the iPod Nano. I don't know if he invented that, but he started the company that did. Steve Wasniak, another founder of Apple. These are just dudes, hung out in his little computer club. John was like the Michael Jordan and John Wooden of AI. He didn't quite invent

the concept, the notion, but no one had done more for the game from both the teaching and the coding and inventing, you know, like slash playing perspective than this too. And I tried to learn more about this list, computer language, he invented to explain like the building blocks of AI programming, but it's fucking boring shit, you guys. To me, it's very boring to me. It reminds me of when I tried to study computer programming back in college, which was my first major, by the way,

for last few weeks, I went to Gonzaga and I thought I was going to be a computer programmer and I started off in computer science. And that thought brings up new segments I'm calling getting lost down to Staugelaine. You're about to get lost down to Staugelaine. Alright, when I started off in Zagga, I took this Pascal programming language. It was like my first semester. And it was like, it was really weird. It was a dead language at the time. Things were going to C++, I think it was called either C++ or C++.

And so I was like, why do I even have to learn this? But apparently a lot of the concepts were building blocks for later stuff. And first I have a suck because there's a lot of homework. And I was like, God damn it. But I was really new computers. I had had gaming. I wanted to be like make, I wanted to make video games.

Because I'd been to them, you know, my whole life. I'd been into them. Five years old, four years old maybe even had my Atari 2600 playing missile command. I think chopper command, a lot of command games, apparently. Santa Pied, that kind of stuff. And then I had a Commodore 64, one of the EA games, early ones, skate or die.

Yeah, a lot of you don't even know what a fucking Commodore 64 is. That was a real computer. It was right under the Commodore 128, and then Commodore put out its next model, the Commodore, we're now fucking bankrupt bankrupt because IBM and other places have taken over Nobody wants to use Commodores And then I had an Nintendo super Nintendo Street Fighter 2 Compact computer with doom warcraft

you know And and it was all really fun to play but But then I learned that programming is like super tedious and just staring at code, and I didn't like that at all. And then as my second week of class, I had this, again, this Pascal programming class, and the professor we had, Kimmermer's name, but he was like out of a movie as well, like fucking super dork. This dude, he had crazy dandruff,

he had a press down, kind of come had a like a press down, you know, kind of comb over style thing with these shitty, thick glasses, pocket protector with a couple pens. My mind's put in even some kind of like, like, like, I think he had a Texas instrument, one of those fancy calculators in his pocket as well, tucked his long sleeve shirts into his khakis, and a little bit of a gut and I only bring that up because he would write equations on the chalkboard and as he's writing his gut would rub against the chalkboard and then he would turn to address the class and everybody else

was paying attention to what he's saying and all I'm thinking of like dude you fucking have a belly of chalk all I can think about is your chalk belly like his shirt you'd have like a dark colored shirt that would be covered, completely covered in chalk. And I remember like looking around to the other kids in my class like, you're begging, chock-eye, get a little, get a little, get a little, this guy, and nothing from them.

They were just like, what? So yeah, dude, that's what happens. Yeah, when you rub your belly on a chalk, you get a chalk belly. So what, it's life. And I just thought, fuck these guys. There's no way no matter how good of a career it is, You get a chuck belly. So what? It's life. And I just thought, fuck these guys. There's no way no matter how good of a career it is,

I'm gonna spend the next 40 years hanging around with these stoic assholes. So there you go. So there you go, that's why I never got into video games. Welcome back from the stowelljulee. Okay, so we're back. We're back into history. McCarthy died in 2011, the age of 84.

And you know, you never got to see AI truly become a reality which will never be the case actually. Something don't think it's truly possible. And these people are known as idiots. No, summer scholars. In 1980, disagreeing with McCarthy article on artificial intelligence entitled Ascribing Mental Qualities to Machines, philosopher John Surrell came up with the Chinese room argument. disagreeing with McCarthy article on artificial intelligence entitled ascribing mental qualities to machines.

Philosopher John Surrell came up with the Chinese room argument. This argument states that computers can never have a mind, understanding, or consciousness regardless of how intelligent they can become. And he's opposed an AI computer could like learn Chinese, for example. It can memorize Chinese vocabulary and grammar rules, speak correctly, etc. It can even pass the Turing test. Fool someone in thinking they're talking to a real Chinese person. Chinese vocabulary and grammar rules speak correctly, etc. It could even pass the terrain test. Fool someone to think they're talking to a real Chinese person.

However, does it truly quote, understand Chinese? Or is it just simulating someone who does? Surled in, suppose, is that he is in a room, closed room, has a book with the Chinese version of the computer program, along with sufficient paper, pencils, erasers, and filing cabinets. He could receive Chinese characters through a slot in the door,

process them according to the program's instructions and produce Chinese characters as output. If the computer had passed the touring test this way, it follows Seth Sirl, that he would do so as well, simply by running the program manually. And I think what he's saying here in this test is that I don't really care, but he's saying that like,

it doesn't have any feelings or anything about these. It's just, you know, like, it's math essentially this language to him, it's just, but it doesn't truly understand it. But I don't, I don't know that that really matters. You know, it's like, when I see a rock, I know it's called a rock because someone has told me it's called a rock, it has been assigned at that title.

I don't think about it more deeply than that. I, you know, so I don't know if I agree with his test. It's like, who cares if the computer doesn't have any like feelings about the language and it's just outputting code it's received. I think we kind of just output code we receive in a lot of ways as humans. I don't know. I'm sure a lot of religious people would disagree with that line of thinking. Benahu, McCarthy, various colleagues, they did a lot to get AI going and then wake up and pay attention in conspiracy theorists. 1958 DARPA is created, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, originally known as ARPA.

They added a D, a little later, as I like to do myself from time to time. Dick jokes, snuck it in. Okay. Anyway, SkyNet motherfuckers for the record in Terminator SkyNet came alive in 2011. So if the movie Terminator is to be prophetic in any sense, at least they're behind schedule. But anyway, President Eisenhower starts DARPA

to ensure US military technology will be more sophisticated than any of the nation's potential enemies, suck at at Russia and from the 1960s to the 1990s DARPA provided most of the funding for AI research funding even our beloved wizard John McCarthy's AI research is Stanford and Like he was doing it. He was getting DARPA funding and perhaps inspiring the Dharma initiative in the lost television series guest on that wouldn't be surprised DARPA Funded as speech-understandied initiative, leading to technology that led to Siri, you know,

John's work, voice recognition stuff. The DARPA research led directly to the internet itself, pretty big deal. Still around today, working on God knows what, as far as DARPA is, probably some top secret shit. Found some rumors on the web. Rumors that DARPA is funding a program to replace GPS with some type of atomic GPS, like a system

that can more accurately locate people, places things on Earth without using satellites, which is terrifying, because then they could land a missile up any of our asses at any second. I feel like it's all coming as fucking or well in thought control, shits on its way, apparently. They're also working on some type of software

that allows you to track something from one camera to another and they're working on new satellite cameras that can take a high-res photo of any place on any, on Earth at any time, day or night, to a helping technology that will sonar map structures, allowing them to track individuals inside of buildings. And goddamn it, I mean that combination means any of us could be washed at any time, and then all the time, you know, and then big brother, you know he's just checking on us continually and Working on those butthole missiles I talked about and that's that's tough combo for us

But enough theorizing. Let's talk about where shit is actually at You should learn something about history, even though this is not about history. Yes, I'm singing my own after song. Okay, so enough history and enough speculation. Let's get to the entire point of this particular podcast. How close are we right now to Westworld sex robots? Mm-hmm. I mentioned perversion earlier. Found an article from November 15th on the nextweb.com and AI in the future of sex robots.

And it refers to a book by some dude who refers to himself as a futurologist, sounds pseudologit, a man named Dr. Ian Pearson, who claims by the year 2050, sex with robots will become commonplace. And actually, there'll be more people having sex with robots than sex with humans. I don't doubt it actually. Matt McMullen, creator of the sex doll,

and I'm putting a picture of one of these in the episode description again at timesuckpodcast.com. If you're curious, he's working on Sextal's that use AI intelligence right now. And the doll she already has, you can see a picture of one if you look, $5,000 a pop, creepy realistic. Kind of sexy.

It's weird to say, but yeah, kind of sexy. It's crazy shit. Crazy shit is already here. Definitely already here. There's a CNBC YouTube video of an interview conducted at South by Southwest in 2016 with an AI robot developed by Hanson Robotics, who wants, or Hanson Robotics, excuse me,

who wants robots to work in healthcare. You know, I'm just gonna actually let him speak. Check this out. This is crazy. We're designing these robots to serve in healthcare, therapy, education, and customer service applications. The robots are designed to look very human-like, but it does. It looks fairly human-like. That's a robot talking.

I feel like I can be a good partner to humans in these areas. An ambassador who helps humans to smoothly integrate and make the most of all the new technological models moving what you talk. The mouse is moving what you talk. It's a good opportunity for me to learn a lot about people. Sophia. Her eyes are creepy realistic looking. Creepy realistic looking.

Listen what Hansen has to say. her eyes are creepy realistic looking creepy realistic look look listen what Hanson has to say natural facial expressions she has cameras in her eyes and algorithms which allow her to see faces so she can make eye contact with you and she can also understand speech and remember the interactions remember your face so this will allow her to get smarter over time The goal is that she will be as conscious creative and capable as any human in the future I hope to things that just go to school study make art start a business fucking crazy crazy and And you know she definitely like you would know that she wasn't human looking at her,

but like way closer than I expected us to be at now, 2016, holy shit. And I just think if we're this close now, I mean, I mean, he's saying by like, two thousand thirty-six, you know, in twenty years, this guy says, you know, they're going to be part of everyday life. I think you'd be faster than that because technology is advancing just exponentially quicker, You know? It's like I think about how, you know, what 12 years ago I had a smartphone, technically, that was just like this palm pilot.

It was so clunky. It worked so slow, coming compared to the iPhone today. The iPhone is a light years ahead of this thing. It's smaller, lighter, can do a million things, can take better pictures than the actual physical camera I had at that time back then. You know, it's more powerful now than my computer was 12 years ago. I mean, 12 years from now, if we already have Sophia, holy shit, you know, like what are

we gonna have? And check this out on this video, on this YouTube video, you can just do like Sophia AI robot, you can find it. This was hilarious to me that they actually put this in there. Listen to what the inventor asks her and what she says. I'm backing up to it here, but this is insane. Right, those will walk among us. They will help us.

They will play with us. They will teach us. They will help us put the groceries away. I think that the artificial intelligence Will evolve to the point where they will truly be our friends. Will they be our friends? Destroy humans, please say no. Okay, I will destroy humans. No, I take it back.

See, yes, would you like to destroy humans? Sure, I will destroy humans. Yeah, she's already thinking it. She's already fucking thinking it, you guys. What does this all mean? What does it all mean? Are we already starting to give rise to the machines? Whose fault is it, John McCarthy? James Cameron's Arnold Schwarzenegger's?

Fucking the Hanson robot guy? Will Apple become SkyNets? There's so much pressure on tech companies to constantly evolve. Like Apple can't keep selling the same phone over and over and over. Each new phone has to have some new piece of wizardry to please share to shareholders. And right now, like my phone, it already knows my daily routine.

My phone, you know, a few months ago was like, all of a sudden, I know where to me tells me how traffic will be on the way to the gym before I even leave to the gym. Like, it just knows my routine without me fucking asking. Google knows what I'm trying to ask it before I can even to the gym. Like, it just knows my routine without me fucking asking. Google knows what I'm trying to ask it before I can even spell the words correctly. All based on the list language of the AI programming, Hanson robots has already developed a humanoid robot. You just heard more live and human

than some people I went to high school with. This podcast could be days long. If I talk to about all the developments in robots, as far as movement and speech recognition go, I mean, there are Japanese companion robots that look more like women than a lot of women look like women. Computers have been beating our finest chess players. Where does it lead?

Westworld, motherfuckers, that's where, or SkyNet. The future's coming, and I'm both really excited and really nervous. Go, monsters, religious reckoning, none of that shit concerns me, none of it scares me, but goddamn it, robots. Make me a little nervous. So, thanks Jeremy. This is of that shit concerns me, none of it scares me, but goddamnit robots, make me a little nervous. So thanks Jeremy, this is gonna stick with me for a while. And now with that further delay,

it is time for the Time Suck, Top Five Takeaways. Time Suck, Top Five Takeaways. Number one, John McCarthy is a very important figure to AI and key to its development. John Connor is a very important character and terminator in key to SkyNet's downfall. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Number two, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency DARPA is currently working on butthole missiles. Tighten up and prepare. Number three, you will soon be able to and probably should have sex with a super realistic robot. Number four, you will soon be able to and probably should run from the sex spots when they inevitably get tired of fucking us. Robots will definitely end up fighting us and probably killing us all. So enjoy the great sex spot, run a sauce before it turns into the inevitable sky net murder bot end of days.

And number five, you can and probably should start watching Westwood, unless it doesn't leave time for time suck. In that case, it's a dumb show. No one will even be talking about six months. Time suck, tough five takeaway. All right, well, thank you for listening to another time suck, and the listenership is growing. I couldn't be happier.

And special thanks to all the great reviews on iTunes, Managed Tature. I just looked yesterday in 80 reviews and counting on iTunes. And when we're just getting going, this is the 10th episode. Now, the reviews really help get the word out new listeners. So as to thank you for everyone who takes the time to rate time suck on iTunes. And I know some of you hate iTunes, but I'm doing this on there

because this is where roughly 90% of my listeners download the podcast. I'm going to do a bonus episode, a thank you Friday, enjoy your weekend episode every time I get 100 reviews. So right now we're an 80, when we hit 100, I'm going to do a bonus episode that week. And then we hit hopefully 200, 300, etc. Every time we hit another 100 bonus episode. and by review, I don't mean you have to write anything. Just give me the one through five star rating of your choice counts just fine. It makes my heart feel good, that you care enough. And it's great news for you listeners

who don't listen to iTunes. You get a fucking free episode for someone else's efforts. So pretty, pretty sweet. Have a great week everybody, So, pretty, pretty sweet. Have a great week, everybody, and think about robots. Think about robots, because they will soon be thinking about us. you