Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 111 - Demonologists Ed and Lorraine Warren (from Annabelle, the Conjuring, and more)

Episode Date: October 29, 2018

The "true" horror stories of Ed and Lorraine Warren have turned into more than a billion dollars worth of scares at the box office between The Conjuring, The Conjuring 2, Annabelle, and Annabelle: Creation. Today, we take a look at the real tales behind the Hollywood creations and also dig into the lives of the "demonologists" who swore all of these hauntings have been all too real. Happy Halloween, Timesuckers! Hope you enjoy today's collection of haunted dolls, cemetery apparitions, demons, lost spirits, and cursed ground, today on Timesuck. Steven Watson's Hurricane Michael Go Fund Me! https://www.gofundme.com/69exxeo?pc_code=fb_co_postupdate_a&rcid=a707a4f2e8cb473c948a7c8b8368aed1 Timesuck is brought to you by the KINGPINS podcast on Parcast! Go to Parcast.com/KINGPINS/ to listen now! Merch - https://badmagicmerch.com/ Want to try out Discord!?! https://discord.gg/tqzH89v Want to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever current page hasn't been put in FB Jail :) For all merch related questions: https://badmagicmerch.com/pages/contact Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG, @timesuckpodcast on Twitter, and www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcast Wanna be a Space Lizard? We're over 3000 strong! Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcast Sign up through Patreon and for $5 a month you get to listen to the Secret Suck, which will drop Thursdays at Noon, PST. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. You get to vote on two Monday topics each month via the app. And you get the download link for my new comedy album, Feel the Heat. Check the Patreon posts to find out how to download the new album and take advantage of other benefits. And, thank you for supporting the show by doing your Amazon shopping after clicking on my Amazon link at www.timesuckpodcast.com

If you've seen the horror movies, the Conjuring, Annabelle, then you're somewhat familiar with the tale of a Nadi and Oso creepy child's doll that is very much alive. And for sure, evil. But these are obviously movies created specifically to scare you. Is there any truth behind these films? Was Annabelle actually real?

Ed and Lorraine Warren-Thato, the famed demonologist investigated the real Annabelle doll. In the early 1970s, the real doll was allegedly purchased at a hobby store and given as a birthday present in 1970 by a mother to her daughter, Donna, a nursing student who was turning 28. If the story is true, it was not likely a second hand doll as the movie suggested. It was most likely purchased new since this particular raggedy and doll was at Calico dress would end up in Lorraine and Ed's museum does not predate the 1970s.

And Donna came to believe that the spirit of a little girl named Annabelle lived inside of this doll. Donna and her roommate Angie, fellow nurse, would come home to find that doll, had shifted positions and their little apartment. At first, the movements were subtle and confined to the bed where Donna would leave the doll. However, in time, the movements became much more obvious and noticeable. And Donna

and Angie began to discover the doll in different rooms. Room was both sore. They never left the doll in. Annabelle would even appear back in Donna's room with the door shut. Sometimes they'd find the doll with its legs crossed and its arms folded. On occasions it was found standing on his feet leaning against a dining room chair. They even discovered it kneeling on a chair once, which was super strange because if they tried to make the doll kneel like that on its own, it would just fall over. Couldn't do it. Wasn't built to be able to kneel in the way they found it kneeling. And then the strange little doll transition from moving around to communicating. Donna claimed that she would come home to find penciled messages written in childlike writing on parchment paper. The messages read help us. That's terrifying and help.

Lou Lou was Donna's roommate Angie's fiance and had been staying with him. We made the messages even stranger was that Donna did not have parchment paper and the apartment and had no idea where it came from. And then things got a little scarier when some blood showed up on Annabelle. Mmm. Ed and Lorraine Warren claimed that Donna came home from work to find what looked like blood on the back of the doll's hand and three drops of blood on his chest. There was no explanation for how the red substance got in there, scared Donna now to contact

a medium who held a seance and introduced Donna and Angie to the spirit of Annabelle. A seven-year-old girl who played in the fields that existed where Donna and Angie's apartment complex now stood. Apparently Annabelle's lifeless body had been discovered in the field. Out of compassion, Donna and Angie permitted the spirit of Annabelle to stay with them and possess the doll. But maybe the spirit of the doll wasn't some little girl after all. Maybe it was something much worse, or maybe Annabelle lived alongside something much worse inside the doll. But maybe the spirit of the in the doll wasn't some little girl after all. Maybe it was something much worse or maybe Annabelle lived alongside something much worse inside the doll.

Lou, Donna Svance, freaked out by Annabelle and warned Donna that it was not harmless. He thought it was evil. And then one night Lou woke suddenly from a deep sleep and found himself unable to move and then get ready for goosebumps. He saw a creepy little Annabelle down at his feet and watch frozen and helpless as it slowly glided up his leg up onto his chest before he knew what the doll began to strangle him and he didn't let go until he blacked out. He woke up the next morning convinced that it was not just a dream, it was a message. And then Annabelle attacked him in a way that made it impossible for him to just write it off as being a dream. Lew and Angie went to Angie's apartment. They were there studying maps to prepare for a little vacation when they heard rustling noises coming from Donna's room.

Lew approached the closed door, waited for the noises to stop before entering, turned on the light, saw Annabelle laying on the floor in the corner. He walked over to the doll and then as he did, he began to feel a powerful sense of dread in the presence of some other entity behind him. Spun around to defend himself saw no one but then felt pain in his chest felt the floor found himself doubled over and riding on the floor, grabbing his chest which was now bleeding. Excuse me when he was able to stand up, took off his shirt and discovered seven claw-like scratches on his chest. Man, excuse me. I think the demon of Annabelle just went into my throat right now, feeling crazy. So he found himself doubled over, riding on the floor, grabbing his chest, now bleeding. When he was able to stand up, he took off his shirt and discovered seven claw-like scraps on his chest, four horizontal, three vertical that felt like hot burns. The scraps is healed rapidly and were fully gone in two days. He creeped out yet. I

am. Anable to try to choke me out in the middle of this introduction. Is any shit true? Maybe, maybe not. It's all either first-hand accounts or supposed first-hand accounts, chronicled by paranormal investigators and demonologists, Ed and Lorraine Warren. Are they full of shit? Perhaps some people certainly think so? Or is there a lot more to the world that meets the eye and Ed and Lorraine have seen it? And some of what they have seen is utterly terrifying.

Today we examine the lines of the warrants, look into some of their scariest tales on a Halloween week spooky edition of Time Suck. Happy Monday, Time Suggers. Hail Nimmrot, Hail Lucidfina, Praisemodler, Michael Mothafuck and McDonald's, Bojangles. Hope I'm not gonna be fighting that weird feeling on my, praise the model. Michael, motherfucker, McDonald's, bow jangles. Hope I'm not gonna be fighting that weird feeling on my throat this entire show. That's gonna be real bummer. I'm Dan Kumbas, a master of sucker, the fourth leg of bow jangles,

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I'm dressing up as chicken Joe. You know, not easy to find a fucking chicken head came, but I did it. I got one in the mail, and I got a, also not, you know, easy, last minute to get a disco shoes with like a little goldfish looking thing in the heel, got that coming, gonna have a fun costume for a post on Instagram Facebook So let's get paranormal. Oh, let's suck right now to disturbing possibilities of what may go bump in the night

So who were they Ed and the rain Warren who these controversial ghost hunters? Let's look into their lives a little bit before we Lay out and examine some of their scarier claims. What kind of people become demonologists? Today's timeline is going to be a bit of a shorter one because there's just not a lot known about the Warrens other than the cases of paranormal activity that they wrote about investigating. So they wrote a lot, just not about themselves.

So we'll look at their lives and then we'll bounce out and look into some of their more infamous cases in a lot more depth. Let's get to it! Shrap on those boots soldier, we're marching down a time-sub-time line. On September 7th, 1926, Edward Ed Warren Mining is born in Bridgeport, Connecticut. He's one of two twins to be born that day, born alongside sister, Babette Pauline Babe Mining. Ed and Babe would both achieve notoriety and a level of fame before they died. Ed would grow up, you know, to become a famous ghost hunter and Babe would grow up to become

one of Bridgeport, Connecticut's best bakers. It's a really cool story. She worked at a wonderbred factory and a former coworker, Elaine Strongsbo. I would later say that Babe was wizard when it came to sourdough. Elaine was saying in an interview in a little regional trade publication,

she said a lot of us made sourdough and many of us were good at it, but there was something different about Babe. She didn't like make more bread than anyone else because the factory machinery, you know, ensured that the same number of lows were produced each and every shift. And, you know, and her bread didn't taste

any different than anyone else's, because of the, of course, the machinery involved insured that the exact same ingredients would go into each and every loaf as a factory, and each loaf would be cooked at exactly 400 degrees for exactly 22 minutes. But it was, it was the way Babe pushed the dough dispenser button on the sourdough line that,

I don't know, just seemed to make her bread taste a little better than everyone else's, or you know, like at least exactly the same as everyone else's, but not worse, and so that's pretty cool. That's fucking, that's nonsense. I have no idea what Babe did as a kid, or as an adult, or she's a hit alive. That would be,

oh, not exactly be a claim to fame. I do know a little bit about Ed. As parents, 29 year old, Frank Edward Mining, police officer, and 26 year old Pauline Dennis Mining, homemaker. He has an older brother Frank born five years earlier in 1921. Little Ed seemed to have pretty normal childhood. Their whispering from his, about his mother,

being possibly an alcoholic, mostly from his future son, Lottoni Spira, mentioned him later on in the show. His dad, you know, I guess was maybe not around a lot due to a working long hours, but you know, no alarming examples of abuse and neglect. And, and you know, and maybe his mom drank a little bit extra because Ed wouldn't shut the fuck up about ghosts.

She could handle a little bit, pound on her door every night, but I'd talk about a demon, or even as room, or outside his window, just day after day. Demon this, monster that. He doesn't want to eat his sandwich, because it goes poison the baloney. He can't sleep alone in his bed, because an old wide-eyed demon lady sleeps underneath it. He can't play with his neighbor kids, outside because it goes to a little boy, said he's strangled Frank if he tried. He won't play with his sister Bay, because Bay was been possessed by the previous owner of the home for years

and why won't anyone take him seriously? I have no idea what she drank but I will say if Kyler and Monroe just wouldn't shut up about demons and ghosts I'd probably hit the sauce a little harder. Less than five months after Ed's birth on January 31st 1927 Lorraine Rita Miranda's born also in Bridgeport. She grew up to a few miles up to coast from Bridgeport and Milford, the eldest of three children she grew up in a middle class family. Four years later, 1931 when Ed was five, his family moved into a house that he thought was haunted. He would later reflect my father

who was a police officer at the time would often say Ed, there's a logical reason for everything that happens in this house. And then my dad would just float up to the third floor and his eyes would turn white. No, I didn't, that part didn't happen. But he just never came up with that logical reason that said. If he said my family would go all go to bed and then just around two to three o'clock in the morning, many times I would hear the closet door beginning to open up. This sounds like a little kid imagination.

At first I'd look into the closet and see only shapeless darkness, then I'd start to see a light bulb. No, not light. Not light bulb, sorry. I'd start to see a light beginning to form, and it would morph into like a ball-like shape, sort of like a basketball, and then I'd see a face in the ball. Now this phenomenon he described as known in paranormal circles as a ghost globule. And what is a ghost globule?

Well, it's defined as a globule of ghostiness. So, there you go. Now that'd be a super shitty definition. Now, according to the minds behind paranormal.lovetoknow.com, a ghost globule is circular in shape, much like a globe, also known as a ghost orb. Also known as ghost balls, aka spooknuts, aka spirit sack, aka demons grote, aka netherworld nards, aka poltergeist, picker pillows, aka haunted hacky sacks, aka i'm done now. These balls alike can come in a range of sizes and illumination, some barely visible, some others brightly glowing, are these orbs or globules or, you know, spirit sacs, the exact spirits of the dead?

Some people believe so. In fact, people who follow this theory believe that when they see an orb, they're actually viewing a deceased person's soul. There are others that don't believe these spirits are actually individual spirits at all, but instead collections of many spirits all contained within the pulsating light

that forms the orb. Still others believe that while these orbs are spirits, they never belong to a human body. Believe it instead, they're evidence of the spiritual side of nature, free agent spirits out there, I guess, looking for a host. Those who believe that these spheres have ghostly origins believe that an orb in the form

of a spirit in the form takes, I don't know, I don't know, I'm trying to stay there. What did I write my notes? Those who believe that these spheres have ghostly origins believe that an orb is the form a spirit takes on. There it goes, as it moves about. Okay, why circle? Well, there are various reasons associated with the beliefs

that a globe or an orb can house a spirit. Like one would be a circle encloses a spirit, two a circle can house more than one spirit, three it is easy for a circle or to travel. Okay. Four, the circle is a common shape associated with nature such as the moon in the sun and five, the circle represents eternity, which is forever for the soul. Some people believe that the ghost wanted a triangle, but that shape was taken by the illuminati. People probably don't believe that. Okay, so that's the globule.

Ah, okay, you know, I haven't seen one, but you know, a lot of people think they have. Make that what you will, mumbo jumbo to many, but others believe, you know, these orbs with dollar heart. And here's Ed's description of the globule. He thought he saw when he was a little kid. He says, in that globule was a face,

the face of an old woman, and she was not looking at all pleasant. That's fun. The globule would then come out into my bedroom, accompanied by audible footsteps and heavy breathing. The room would then become icy cold, an unnatural cold, a psychic cold, and I'm saying to myself, Ed, there's a logical reason for everything. But by that time, I was out of the bed and right in between my mom and dad and their bed. So, you know, from an early age, Ed won't think more about ghosts than the average kid. And annoying the shit out of his parents. So, maybe that really was the reason his mom drank.

1939, when Lorraine is 12, she began to develop an interest in the paranormal as well. These two were made for each other. They actually did have, whether they were full of shit or not, a pretty special relationship. When the rain was 12, she would see lights around people at the private Catholic school, Catholic girls school. She attended. This is the beginning of her clear,

violent and psychic abilities. She'd later say, I can fight it in one of my nuns, my friend's teacher. I told her that her lights were much brighter than mother's superiors. I just assumed others could see them too. The sister, she told this to, told her to stop staying fanciful stuff

and the school packed her off to a retreat home for a weekend where she was not allowed to talk or play only pray. After returning from this retreat home, Lorraine said she was worried that my, what my parents would think, what the nuns would think, I never wanted to be different. I always wanted to fit in so I just tried tried to deny what I could see even to myself. Now I haven't think when people are making these kind of claims,

you know, like, I think, A, the prideful of shit, total honesty. A, don't buy it, but I do think B, how terrible would it be if that actually was true? Like, that was your life. Like, can you imagine? You started seeing like, you you know creepy old ladies faces and fucking orbs floating around like for real You know like you go to it you go to a therapist They can't find anything you know wrong psychologically you go through a battery of you know of tests at the hospital

Get cat scans everything. There's nothing nothing wrong with your wires, you know, nothing wrong with your chemistry But just like the sixth sense, like the old movie, you see dead people. What a curse that would be, right? You can't turn that ability off. Man, what a terrible burden. Like, I feel like if your mind was sound when you began to see dead people,

it wouldn't stay sound for very long. Like, you would be coming up, you'd be coming, you know, a nutty kind of person that I make fun of on the show. And I'm like, ah, what a weirdo. What if they really are dealing with that? Oh, man. No, thank you.

Please don't let me become one of those people. Ah, man, I guess that they weren't hurting you. Maybe you'd acclimate someone over time, but shit, big on this Fina. Get away from me. With your ghost vision. Huh, and either late 1942 or early 1943, when Ed Warren was 16 years old working as an usher as

no longer an existence colonial theater in Bridgeport, Connecticut. He met Lorraine Rita Moran. Lorraine and her mother used to come every Wednesday night. Ed remembered he'd say, I'd see Lorraine coming in and we started talking and we became friends. I was 16 at the time and so was she. And one night I walked her home and asked her on a date, and that's how it all started. How adorable.

And here's what Lorraine had to say of her first impression of that. She said, I looked at her shoes, which were shine to perfection, and I looked at the crease of his trousers, and I thought, what a nice young man he was. How sweet is that fit? A little bit different than I feel like many of the stories of today's relationships. I don't think we would have that kind of sentimental, oh, hmm, feel, you know?

More like I swatched right and started he and we hooked up every once in a while, became friends with benefits and then we were both hookin' up with other people, you know? And we just realized that like, you know, we like hookin' up with other people but we like kind of, you know, hookin' up with each other more and I don't want you like her

Pizza or something so we kind of just started like fucking each other you know like and shit just kind of went from there and like he was nice and sometimes He would like order pizza for me after we banged a few times and like no guy'd ever done that for me I feel like that's more of the typical today's started relationship 1944 17-year-old Ed joined the Navy Four months after enlisting, he shipped Hank in the North Atlantic, luckily he didn't sink on it. And he was sent home for 30 day survivors leave. And it was during that leave that he and the rain got married.

There's a couple of kids, madly in love, making big plans for the future. 1946, shortly after Ed returned home from World War II, he and the rain have a daughter, Judy, who will be their only child. Judy is now a paranormal investigator herself, carrying the torch for her parents. Ed also enrolled in Perry Art School,

a subsidiary of Yale, or subsidiary, that's probably a real word, of Yale and studied there for about two years. And the two quickly began investigating hauntings around this time as well. After the war, Ed would read news stories of hauntings around the country, and then he would show up at these places that were close by and he'd paint the houses he'd read about in reports and then use these paintings as a way to introduce himself to the owners of

the home. It's a, you know, he wanted to see it to same people or he wanted to see if the same things he had seen and heard as a kid were happening to other people. Lorraine would later explain. Ed would later say, we were just kids. Nobody was just gonna let us in. We were curiosity seekers. We were not yet the directors of the New England Society

for psychic research. I'd go out in the middle of the road, where they could all see me, and I'd start sketching the house, and you can, and you'd see the curtains going back and forth. Like, what's this kid's doing? They'd be thinking, I would do a really nice sketch of the house with ghosts coming out of it, and I'd give it to Lorraine.

She'd go knock on the door. And with her Irish personality, she'd say, oh, my husband loves the sketch and paint haunted houses. And he made this for you. I made it special for them. And then that's kind of what endeared them to these owners and got them to be able to investigate their homes. Ed said he applied the police investigation methods.

He'd learn from his dad to paranormal investigations, asking questions, taking notes. Lorraine would work entirely on instinct, saying everything came naturally to me. She says, I would never get them to let me go around the house on my own without any prior knowledge of what they'd experienced to see what I discerned. And I would sit on the bed where people spend a third of their life, that's where you get the best vibrations

and names and visions would come to me. Ed also began to pay the, start paying the bills with his paintings, started in 1948. He said he got fed up with school, telling Lorraine one day, you know, I can paint better than these instructors. What they're teaching me is a lot of geometry,

a lot of nonsense. I don't need for painting. He bought a car for 15 bucks, 1933, Chevy Eagle Deluxe, saying the guy gave me two wheels with it. I had to paint them off on a, on time, $5 a week. I said to Lorraine, you know, if we go up to the new areas where they're opening up for tourists, like Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire,

I bet I can take a bunch of paintings and put them where people are walking by and we'll sell some. And they did sell some and they made good money. According to Ed, they made a fantastic living, it allowed them to do their paranormal investigations. No selling paintings anywhere from three to five bucks a piece in an age when hot dogs were a dime.

Hamburgers are dime. The theater is a quarter. Gas is 18 cents a gallon. Now, selling those kind of several of those paintings for three, four, five bucks a day paid all your bills and then some. So within a few years, the warrants, interest in haunted house have become an obsession. And they opened the occult museum out of the back of their house. It contained an ever-expanding collection of knick-knacks and artifacts that all had

supposedly been touched or possessed by something evil. In 1952, the Warrens also founded the New England Society for Psychic Research, the first official organization of Ghost Hunters in New England. And what had the Warrens learned about Ghosts so far? Well, here's what Ed would have to say in the demonologist. The extraordinary career of Ed and Lorraine Warren, a book about them first published in 1980. You'd say most people seem to think ghosts lurk around in the upstairs of old homes in a misty vapor state. That is not so. In order to be seen with the physical eye, the ghost or apparition needs physical energy to manifest. We learn there are two basic processes,

a human spirit can go through to bring about its own materialization. One way requires a human presence, the other does not. When an earth-bound spirit needs a human presence to manifest, then it engages in a complex process of energy transference to give itself substance. And when, and the atom's rib of most ghostly manifestations is nothing other than human aura.

Surrounding the body of every living being is a bioluminescent glow caused by natural discharge of energy from the body. Clear avoidance like Lorraine can see and read the human aura, which appears in three layers, reflecting the physical, emotional, and spiritual status of the person. Spirits read auras too, and an individual's aura may either repel or attract a spirit presence. Oh man, I got one of those repellent orus. This is repellent ghosts away, left and right. Hopefully, sometimes in this dark, I get a little worried that I don't have the right kind of aura, I guess, yeah?

Whatever an aura, if the aura's real. Anyway, spirits, read or is two, yeah. Never less from the violet, the blue, yeah. Bio-luminous and glow or the ghost draw, small amounts of energy which collect as an orb or else as small pinpoints of light, the slight energy combined with heat and electromagnetic energy in the room

is what the human spirit uses to manifest. The rain would give a simpler explanation saying imagine you're staying overnight in your friend's house. The place is nice and cheerful, so nice and cheerful to the thought of a ghost would never enter your mind. And that night you're shown overnight in your friend's house. The place is nice and cheerful. So nice and cheerful that the thought of a ghost would never enter your mind. And that night, you're shown to the guest room and a little while you're sound asleep.

Sometime in the middle of the night, you wake up, perhaps the spirit has psychically projected the sound of breaking glass or the slamming of a door to get your attention. Sitting up in bed, you have an eerie feeling. You know something's not right. Glancing around the dark room, you see two bluish orbs of light roughly the size of golf balls floating near each other about five feet off the floor. As you watch,

you might also see streaks of light flash away from your body. This is the electromagnetic energy being drawn from your aura. And no time at all, these two balls of light come together and merge into one larger ball about the size of a grapefruit, grapefruit. The ball will then elongate into a cigar shape, you know, about human size and height. Within this tall baha'u luminous and glow, the definable features of a person will begin to emerge until the spirit has manifested as much as it possibly can. To be accurate, by the way, it's called a ghost. The features are not recognizable to the viewer. If the features are recognizable to the viewer, it's an apparition. Either way, you've got to visit her. Has that happened to anybody listening?

You've seen those little ghost balls? You've seen those spirit nuts floating around and then emerged together into a cigar-shaped you. I mean, if you have, I'll send it in. I just, I have not. I'd be curious if anyone listening has seen that. The other way it goes will come up and explain is a bit theatrical. On very human days with a lot of rain or fog or stormy nights when there was electrical

energy and the air from lightning discharges, a ghost is able to build itself from the energy in the atmosphere. When a ghost or apparition manifests in this way, there tends to be an intense smell of ozone in the room and the resulting materialization comes across with a bluish glow. The spirit is liable to manifest before you or aware of its presence or as you watch. The important point is that in one case, the spirit requires a human presence to materialize while in the other only mother nature is needed,

but a ghost certainly does not have to manifest in order to be there because it is not intrinsically a material entity. The ghost will already be there and manifest simply to verify its presence to those in the physical realm. There you go. At Sednerane's theory, as to why they were able to see many, many ghosts, they'd claim to weigh this over the roughly five decades they'd spend pursuing the paranormal.

For a little over the first decade of the New England Society of Psychic Research, or for psychic research, the goal of the warrants was only to investigate and document hauntings. But then in 1965, the warrants wanted to help the victims of hauntings, this urge started to help with the spirit of a little girl named Cynthia. Around 1965, the warrants went into a home where they encountered the spirit of Cynthia and they listened to the little child coming through a deep trans medium.

It has one does. Saying she was looking for her mother, Ed thought to himself, this is horrible. This little child is earthbound. She's looking for her mother constantly dain and day out, how do I help this child? So to find out how to himself, this is horrible. This little child is earthbound. She's looking for her mother constantly day in and day out. How do I help this child? So to find out how to help Ed started interviewing dozens of clergymen of all faiths asking them if somebody called you from your parish and said there was a ghost in the house, what would you do? Some would say, I tell them to see a psychiatrist. Others would say, I go to the house and I'd bless it. There's a blessing that didn't work. I'd

say a mass and the mass didn't work. I performed the right kind of extra-sism. So then it also began to work with non-religious people who services, he thought would be valuable. Medical doctors, researchers, police officers, nurses, college students, etc. All began to volunteer their services for almost a year of the warrants even worked with the ventriloquist. Finding that some ghosts and demons could be tricked into believing they were speaking to a fellow spirit instead of a human if the ventriloquist. Finding that some ghosts and demons could be tricked into believing they were speaking to a fellow spirit. Instead of a human, if the ventriloquist was talented enough, Charles Gutman of

Intriloquist exactly that talented from nearby New Haven would accompany the warrants with a woody. 30 inch, okay. Handcarved doll and cowboy clothes who convinced several reluctant spirits to come out of hiding. Yeah, right. He mad his made up about the ventilla quest. Can you imagine how great would that be if on some paranormal show some spectral ventriloquist showed up as a character with like some puppet named Woody claiming that Woody could convince

ghosts to talk to him. Oh my god, I would love to see that. Ha! Goat's just me! Woody! Look at this dumb human Charles I've made fall asleep! What a dope! I'm using his oral energy to possess this silly cowboy doll! But really, I'm a goat with sort of demon thing just like you! So how would you come out and join me? We could possess more dolls, we could open a portal to hell, weeeeeee! Wouldn't that be fun? We could do stuff like throw kids downstairs, spin people's heads around, scare dog and cats, turn crosses upside down, speaking David voices!

Wouldn't that freak them out? Ha ha ha! Nito! Come on girls, come on talk to me, I'm whaty! I'm definitely not chose. I'm a hundred percent ghost or demon. Let's get to hunting and I'll be sweet. Weeeeee!

Please, please show up somewhere in a show. Please, someone out there in the world be of interlequist demon hunter. Please make Hollywood, dear Hollywood, get going in that movie now. Thank you. Regarding covering all his bases in investigation, Ed would say that people laugh him off with, oh God, you gonna do a house and look for devils?

An edge response to be, your damn right, I look for devils. And I look for everything else too. Either scientists with me, and they're looking for something else. We get together and we talk, and we straighten the whole thing out. Nobody can bring us into a house and fool us. You couldn't tell us the your house is haunted and get away with it because I'm the biggest

skeptic going. I have to see it. I have to hear it and I have to feel it with physical sense. Here are some more of Ed Stott's on his and Lorraine's approach to paranormal investigations. He says, many times we'd use three or four clairvoyants in one place. We'd take them to a house one at a time and they don't know where they're going. Was the case is about, et cetera. They don't know shit. And if they all tell me the same thing, they see a woman's spirit in a certain room or a man or child, then I know

we're on the right track. I mean, actually, that she would be a good way to do it if he's being legit here. I guess I should define clairvoyant really quick by the way. We mentioned a few times. clairvoyant is a ventriloquist who speaks to the dead with a woody. No, clairvoyant is a person who claims to have a supernatural ability to perceive events in the future or beyond normal sensory contact. As in someone who could sense and communicate with spirits. Ed would claim over and over before his death that there was no doubt about the existence of the

paranormal saying in our occult museum we have hundreds of items. We have thousands of cases between here and the other buildings out there that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that this supernatural exists. We have filmed the white lady of eastern. We have filmed Poltergeist attacks on people ghosts and we have taken many pictures of ghosts. I'll talk more about this later. We have filmed Poltergeist attacks on people ghosts and we have taken many pictures of ghosts. I'll talk more about this later. We have thousands of pictures of ghosts. And I'm not talking about filmy, actual plasma type material. I'm talking about spirits. I'm talking about practice.

Oh, wait, that's not the right average. I'm not talking about the game. Now, I'm talking about spirits that are as clear as you and I. You asked for evidence. We'll give you that evidence. We proved in a court of law in 1989 that a woman and her young child were driven out of the house by ghosts. She lived in, he, he brought Connecticut. We went to Rockville court and we won the case. The realtor, Lisa is the house was suing her for $2,000. She begged us to go into the house and get some evidence

that would prove that they're really our ghosts. Now, you don't walk into a court of law and say, well, judge, there was ghosts there. You have to have evidence. And any court of law that used photographs, recordings, credible witnesses, evidence, that's what we use. We won the case. We set a precedent here in the United States. Signs is what say, you didn't prove a thing because you didn't take a ghost and put it in a bottle so we can open them up and examine them. That's stupid. That's saying that scientifically, you have to prove that God exists. Now, ghosts exist. There was no such thing you can't get, whatever, scientific and a supernatural, I don't know what he's saying. So, if you have to prove in a court of law

that ghosts exist in the haunted house, I think that's good enough for anyone. So, he's making this point that he proved in a court of law that ghosts exist. I looked into that. I couldn't find anything in the demonologist about that particular case, but there is another case from 1991. Yes, I couldn't find the one he was talking about, which makes me a little skeptical. I think maybe he was talking about this, I don't know, maybe he got, sometimes he would get the years off. 1991, there is this thing known as the Ghostbusters ruling, not making this up, legally known as Stamovosky versus Acly.

I can somebody, of course, Polish person, wouldn't you, when you guess it? Old, old, Stamvoski, old ski, Polish people, got some trouble again here on the suck. Uh, there's, no, there's case centered around Helen, Helen Ackley reporting the existence of numerous poltergeists in her home in Nyak, New York between 1977 and 1989. Stories of the hauntings in the Ackley home were reported to newspapers across the country, readers died just elsewhere. And then in 1980, a man named Jeffrey Stambovsky purchased the home and then neither Helen Ackley or her realtor told him about the hauntings.

And then after he moved in, he found out about the hauntings. He took Helen to court and wanted his money back. Initial court dismissed his claim, but he appealed and eventually got a ruling in his favor. The ruling said, whereas here, the seller not only takes unfair advantage of the buyer's ignorance, but has created a perpetuated condition about which he is unlikely to even inquire, enforcement of the contract in whole or in part is offensive to the court's sense of equity. Application of the remedy of rescission within the bounds of narrow exception to the doctrine of caveat, emperors set forth herein is entirely appropriate to relieve

the unwitting purchaser from the consequences of a most unnatural bargain. Oh, legal language. Ah, yeah, fun. What they're saying here is that they deceived them. They're not saying that like ghosts lived in the home. They're saying that they talked a lot about ghosts, made this house infamous as far as supposedly being a haunted house and then didn't tell that to the buyer. That would be the best if the judge actually ruled that ghosts were for sure a problem in the house.

The state of New York rules for the plan of the defendant acted in an unlawful manner when they failed to reveal that the demon Bafumet does in fact occasionally reside at the corner of Oak Grove Lane and Freemason Court. Uh, bafflement, uh, this particular demon has for sure killed at least 10 kids in the past two years and thus the defendant recklessly endangered the plaintiff's children's lives by not closing that bafflement is a hundred percent real. And for sure lives in the root seller somewhere behind the furnace several ghosts also one named Lizzie one named Catherine another named David Parker also for sure

doing creepy evil shit in the attic not cool defended not cool. Now the court is just a it's not saying ghosts live in the home with sense that you know you like I said you can't publicly build up this reputation for a home is being like a haunted house and having all these horrible things happen inside it to the point that it becomes kind of nationally known, almost as like a tourist attraction, and then sell that to somebody and just never mention that. Because that affects, you know,

people fucking bothering them all the time, could affect the value of the home, other people might not want to buy it because it's, you know, they think it's super creepy. That's what they said. Anyway, the warrants would research hundreds of cases over the years, they traveled the world, given lectures on the paranormal, and towards the end of Ed's life, they'd write a number of books on what they say they witnessed.

You know, the Annabelle case, I spoke of to start today's tale, apparently, occurred in 1968. And the horror films Annabelle and Annabelle creation based on that haunting, 1971. The warrants went to Harrisville, Rhode Island to investigate the claims of the parent family who believed their home was haunted by a witch. The warrants would claim that the witch named Bashiba Sherman, Kirstenland, so that whoever lived there would somehow die. And this story would become the plot of 2013's The Country.

Bashiba, that does sound like a witch's name. Like if you're a witch, you can't that does sound like a witch's name. Like if you're a witch, you can't just color yourself like Theresa. Bethany. No, if you want people to fear you, you have to switch it up. Gotta color yourself. But Shiba, bloodu-sa, malevolentia. Something dark and foreboding.

We'll talk about this honing at length later in the suck. 1976, the Warns investigated the Amitabill Horror case that we already looked into in bonus suck 11, 1977. The Warns investigated claims that a family in North, the North London suburb of Enfield were haunted by a poltergeist, some kind of poltergeist activity. This haunting would later become the basis

for the film The Conjuring 2. I need to see that movie. I heard it was good. Jesse Dobner, our editor, says it was better than the first one. I loved the first one. I would've watched it last night, but I was alone in my house, and I'm a scaredy cat.

Okay? I swear, I'm still nervous about going down in my basement ever since fucking shadow person episode. Shadow people, why does that have to maybe exist? Creepy. 91, Arnie Johnson or Arn Johnson, look at those weird names. Cues of killing his landlord, Alan Bono,

Ed and Lorraine Warren had been called prior to the killing to deal with alleged demonic possession of the younger brother of Jonathan's fiance. The Warren subsequently claimed that Johnson had also been possessed and then at trial, Johnson attempted to plead not guilty by a reason of demonic possession, but was unsuccessful with that plea. That was too far.

The case was described in 1983 book, the devil in Connecticut. And again, can you imagine if you did get off because of that? I rule in favor of the defendant. He couldn't help what he did because he was, uh, he was possessed by a demon. Baffamette and taken over his, his, his spirit. 1986 Ed Lorraine Warren arrived and proclaimed a steeter courthouse. a formal funeral home was infested with demons. 2009 film The Haunting Connecticut is very loosely based on the

Warren's version of what happened in that house. We'll dive into this case in depth later, apparently involves actually getting raped by demons. That's to be the worst kind of demon, the rapey kind, you know? I mean, if you end up getting haunted, you know, having the ghost of like Richard Ramirez or some of the rapist worst next to a murdering ghost a raping and murdering ghosts. That's that's probably the very worst I can't even imagine how crazy I would go if a ghost raped me like holy shit Now I've been able to defend yourself. You can't even see it come into some fucking spirit wing coming for your orifices at all times I mean, what could you do?

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in which they claim to have exercised a demon manifesting itself as a werewolf. Uh, did we're going to look at that for sure? Uh, later on after the time of demonic werewolf? Okay, all right, I'm curious. I'm listening. Hooray! You got me, you got me. Uh, 1992, Ed Warren published a book titled Graveyard, True Hauntines from an Old New I'm curious. I'm listening. Hooray! You got me, you got me.

1992 Ed Warren published a book titled Graveyard True Hauntines from an Old New England Cemetery that features a white lady ghost, which haunts Union Cemetery in Eastern Connecticut, claims to have captured her essence on film. We'll dig into that one a little bit later. Health problems prevented Ed from actively investigating new cases began in 1996.

The Warrens continued to run a small museum out of their home that sadly not currently opened any longer due to a change in zoning regulations. Boo! Come on, city hall. You can't make exceptions for some demonologists. It's not like they're running a bagel shop, someone's a ply store. It's way cooler than that. And you're ruining it for everyone with your red tape.

March 2001. I woke up at 2 a.m. to let a cat in and collapsed on the floor. Paramedics restarted his heart. He was in a coma for 11 weeks, never regained his ability to speak. However, he would come out of it and live for another five years. Fucking demon cat got him. Baffa met. It's not going to do a cat body. And that's exactly why I don't have cats.

Because I don't like little demon critters. I don't like how they try to kill you or put some kind of dark wizard, coma sleep spell on you. And then on August 23rd, 2006, Ed passed away in Monroe, uh, Monroe, Connecticut at the age of 79. He and Lorraine have been married for almost 62 years.

That's incredible. You don't read a lot about about a lot of 60 plus year marriages. My God. And then for years after his death until just recently his wife Lorraine continued to work with and lead the New England Society for Psychic Research, the organization currently run by their son-in-law, Tony Spira and Dr. Judy. You can find Tony all over YouTube thanks to Paranormal, cable access show he hosted for years where he had numerous interviews with Ed Lorraine. I actually emailed back and forth with Tony this past weekend.

He assures me they are actively still investigating hauntings and carrying on Ed and Lorraine's legacy. And he seems like a nice dude. Lorraine worked as a consultant on a number of blockbuster horror films in the years after Ed's death, such as The Conjuring, The Conjuring 2, Annabelle and Annabelle Creation. Together, those four films grossed over a billion dollars for Ed's death, such as the conjuring, the conjuring to Annabelle and Annabelle creation,

together those four films grossed over a billion dollars worldwide at just the box office. With more movies and developments such as the conjuring three, the shame Ed did not live to see the immense success of the Hollywood version of their tales. Some think that a movie stated currently for 2021 may end up being the biggest financial hit to date based on the tales of Ed and Lorraine Warren. It's working title as Silent Lips, the story of Woody. Pfff. Silent Lips, the story of Woody.

Puppet Demon Hunter. Hello, Bob, for minutes. Me Woody. I'm glad he decided to come and play. Hey, how about following me in his coffin? It's definitely not a leaps on, priest priest, blessed prison to trap your show forever. Wee! Ha! Ha!

Ah, sorry, that's probably more fun for me to deal in for you to hear. And that's clearly not true. Nine-year-old Lorraine is still with us. Ah, she suffers from memory problems. It has a few relatives who act as caregivers to help her out and she lives in a home, Ed and she shared in Connecticut.

They still attach to the no longer operational occult museum. A museum that houses Annabelle and alleged vampires coffin, child's tomb zone, which is said to be used to say, Tannock altar, death curses, demon masks, a variety of other cursed dolls, large statues, state, Satan, and more. I'm guessing the neighborhood kids don't come around and bother her too much with all that stuff in the back of the house and that all takes us out of today's time suck timeline Good job soldier you made it back Now that we know a bit about the life of those demonologists, let's look into the claims that made the Warren's famous.

And what a cool and weird job title, by the way, demonologist. Just, I'm sorry, what did you say you two do? We're demonologists. Optometrist? We're demonologists. Astrologist. Demonologists. We work with demons against them.

We fight against demons. Huh. Yeah. Is that a good job? Is that a, what kind of benefits? You paid vacation? You get matching four or one cake when you're demonologist. Let's get to that demon werewolf case.

First, I want to leave this one because it's the least scary to me of the tales. It's a bit silly, but very entertaining. And I guess if it is true, I mean, this one, this one would be terrifying. I had not heard this one before today, but there, there are rumors that this warrant case is going to be the one reimagined for the upcoming conjuring three film currently slated for summer 2019. Excuse me, around 1959, when Bill Ramsey, just a normal imaginative nine year old boy, playing in the backyard of his parents' house in London, he allegedly disarms him that freaked his parents the fuck out. According to Bill, he's playing outside when he was suddenly caught by a sensation of

coldness running down his entire body in a foul, nauseating odor. And then everything seemed normal again for a moment until he felt his body temperature drop, once more and suddenly pictures of himself as a wolf flashed through his mind. Then he was filled with an overpowering rage filled with the ground. When he got back up, he suddenly directed all his new beast-yield anger towards a fence post that he had violently uprooted from the ground. His parents ran towards him, you know, by this time, and then they watched him like slam this fence post around the ground, brutally tear at the wired fence with his hands and

teeth, biting it, ground like an angry wolf. Supposedly his parents fled and tear at It just went back to the house and just waited and tell this little episode was over. But I'm like, really? Who's run from a nine year old? Like if that's true, his rage must have really been just otherworldly, because, uh, or they were super shitty parents,

because I just can't imagine Kyle Irman Row scaring me back into the house by acting feral or appearing to actually be feral. You know, I was like, by me, and I'll, by me, I'll take away your PlayStation. That you want? Stop growling or no fortnight. Stop growling over from Monroe. I will, I will throw all of your slime making bullshit away. If you don't stop fucking chewing on the goddamn fence, such a little fence, get in the house.

After a little, little fence chewing, the rage slowly faded away. Bill's parents made sure he was okay. Bill's normal life returned. He grew up, got married, had a, had a daughter slash puppy. Earned living as a carpenter, probably nibbled on two by four from time to time. Probably real good at demolition work. And the life was fine for Bill until one day, early 1983. He was out drinking with a group of friends. This is so crazy if this really happened. He's out drinking with a group of friends. He claims he felt a sudden rush of icy cold

and sweat similar to what he experienced the child with a whole fence incident. Feeling ill, he goes to the restroom, says that when he looks in the mirror, he sees a wolf looking back at him, just a wolf face, staring back at him in the mirror. He has to be taken home. He's riding the car with his friends.

He's reportedly overcome with an irresistible rage that took over his body. Last control of himself began to snarl wildly, turn into his friend next to him, attempts to bite his friend's leg. The driver of the car, able to pull over after which they all struggled to restrain Bill and get him under control.

A feat that took several of them working together since he seemed to be displaying a freakish amount of strength. Bill would eventually come back to his senses, making the end of a very strange, very awkward evening with friends who I imagine didn't invite Bill out as much after that. And he would later say, he remembered nothing of this odd event.

If one of your friends wolfed out, bet you in the car after you and some others have been drinking, would you ever go drinking with them ever again? I mean, if they really, really bit you, like draw blood, you know, like maybe you have to go to the urgent care, maybe even ER and then the growling, back and back and crazy for a while after that.

And then the next day, they act like it never happened. There's no way, there's no way I'm hanging out with that person anymore. Hey, so are you guys drinking tonight? Ah, we're, we're not Bill, we're not. Come on guys, come on, Friday night. Which probably we hit in elephant, castle,

McCurdy's, Medville Brewery, T.J. Fright is, come on. Look, look Bill, me and the guys are heading out, but we would really prefer it if you did not join us this time. Ha, are you serious, said? What, oh, what? Is this about, is this about last weekend? Is this about when I beat you? Is this about, I apologize, I told you,

I told you I don't know what happened. I do know what happened. Bill, you built my goddamn leg, 13 stitches, rabies shot, you ruined my favorite pair of capri pants. That's what happened, Bill. Come on, dead. You give me another chance. I got my conceal and carry permit, Bill.

And if you bite me, I swear to God, I will fucking put you down. I will put you down. You wanna come hang out with us? That's fine. I'm keeping my gun on my hip. And I'll put you down. I can goddamn animal you are, Bill.

I don't know, maybe that was a bit much. Then on the night of Monday, December 5th, 1983, Bill does wolf out again. Just like, oh, this time now with his buddies. Of course not, he was alone. Of course he's alone. He's like wolf dude, people don't wanna hang out with wolf dude. Suddenly, tremendous pain breaks out

in the middle of his chest. His entire body covered in a cold sweat. His breath becomes regular. He's rushed towards the nearby South End hospital. He feels a pain serene in his chest and his cold sweat, his breath becomes regular. He's rushed towards the nearby South End hospital. He feels a pain, serene in his chest and his right arm. He parks his car and staggers out towards the emergency room entrance, pushes the door open, two nurses scurry towards him. They help him onto a gurney as the pain and the feeling of his body temperature dropping

intensifies. Then as they're pushing the gurney through the hospital corridor, he lets out a primal roar. Then another, the to jump back with fear But they don't jump back fast enough because in full wear wolf mode now But without the fur and you know looking like a werewolf He gets a hold of a nurse's arm bite her near the elbow hard enough to have blood drip, you know down her arm the other nurse yells for help

Young policemen on regular rounds near the emergency room rushes over to help. And then the officer with the help of the hospital intern, uh, able to force Bill onto the gurney and pin him down with restraining straps and then Bill passes out. And then he regains consciousness inside the ambulance, take him to a run-well mental hospital with no memory of going full wolf dude. After he's released, I imagine a pride charge with some type of assault, I would think, turns into the police asking to be locked up because he's worried he'll lose control again and hurt someone else. And then he wolves out at the police printing when they're not taking him seriously. Attacks an officer has to be sedated and put into a cell before attacking the officer,

this guy watching this interview, a sergeant named Terry Fisher. He said in this like crazy demon wolf voice, the devil is in me. And when the devil is in me, I'm strong. I'm going to kill you. I am strong and you are going to die. So that's fun for the police officers working there. And then he's committed to a psychiatric facility after being released from jail, of course. Where do these wolf men, a wolf man incidents, making onto some television or make it uh... some television producers become aware of it and they put the case of bill ramsey and the hospital episode on an episode of the american tv show uh... named

incredible sunday which was a reboot of the series that's incredible uh... hosted by john david son he's a guy if you don't know the name if you signed the like a guy uh... if you know if you're over the age of 30 for sure, if you're under maybe on YouTube, you've seen some old clips because he hosted Hollywood Square, $10,000 a pyramid, ton of other TV shows.

Uh, incredible Sunday kind of had the vibe of like, Ripley's believe it or not, is about the strange, unusual, incredible stuff like the story of a park ranger that been in the Struck by Lightning seven times. Sometimes they have stunt people doing motorcycle stuff, like jumping over three helicopters, while the blades are spinning, and then stories of people like Bill Ramsey, over three helicopters, well, the blades are spinning. And then stories of people like Bill Ramsey, the Wolfman of London.

And random trivia. It was this show that popularized the phrase, don't try this at home. And guess who was watching the Wolfman episode back in Connecticut? Yeah. Demonologist Ed and Lorraine Warren. They were so intrigued they decided to fly to London and track down Bill. They waited until it was a full moon. They put a bear trap in his backyard with a little bit of raw meat in the center next thing.

You know, they killed the neighbors cat and they had to pay 400 pounds restitution and were charged with a few crimes and nearly deported over the entire incident. No, they didn't do that. They didn't wait till full moon. They just went over to visit Bill and his family. After meeting Bill, they came to believe he was possessed by the demonic spirit of some kind of werewolf entity. The warrants and flu ramsey and his wife Nina back to America with them where they were got some priests to assist them and some doctors and police officers and perform an exorcism of Bill Ramsey. Bishop Robert McKenna led

the exorcism of man who had performed many exorcisms before. Also present six off-the-dee police officers in case Bill became violent in case he wolfed the fuck out. And this bishop ordered the demon to leave bill forever. Bill's demeanor abruptly changed when the demon, excuse me, when the bishop put his hand upon Bill's head. He began to snarl viciously, his face contorted into a beastly rage teeth-beared eyes wild. His hands curled up into talons and began to thrash about. Lorraine Warren would later claim that even his physical characteristics changed.

In his ears, started to become more pointed, his face more feral, his hands more claw-like. Bishop McKenna also said that when Bill's appearance changed, the frenzied demon possessed man lunged towards him trying to mall him. McKenna stumbled back and produced a crucifix, which he held high while commanding and Latin. The demon leave Bill alone at once that seemed only further infuriate the demon and Bill allunged and swiped at the bishop who ordered the nearby police

when to stand down while things played out. Just as the frenzied out of control, Ramsey seemed to close in for the kill. It was about to seriously hurt the bishop. The monster became man again. The man who had moments before been a whirlwind of snorling and spinning aggression suddenly fell to the floor in a heap.

One last roar rattling through him before he fell still and Bill would later say regarding what happened. The poison that had been in my body drained from me completely. I was left without any strength at all and when I turned back to look at Nina, that small movement caused me to black out. I gripped the chair as Tiley's I could and let the demon continue to be pushed away by Bishop McKenna's Latin words. And it's even left and Bill fell purified and unburdened and supposedly has yet to have any kind of werewolf urges ever since. There's been no word on the Bill Ramsey

werewolf front since this exorcism. But once he really possessed by the spirit of werewolf, you know, is that even a thing? All this comes from either the testimony of Bishop Mechanes, some old drinking buddies of bills, the officers of the precinct when he went berserk, and a book on the case that Ed and Lorraine co-wrote entitled Werewolf, the true story of demonic possession, the entire exorcism allegedly was caught on film, but I can't find the footage anywhere. So I have my doubts that it was filmed. Based on everything I've read and seen, it is clear that many people witnessing this behavior do believe that something supernatural happened. But can there be a reasonable explanation?

I mean, we know Bill Spoken, Creepy Voice, said some strange things, we know he bit some people. He really apparently display an unusual amount of kind of berserker strength, but he also did not actually turn into a wolf. His features may have shifted or may not. There's not a photo of that.

Maybe people just thought they saw something. Unfortunately, if he really did have his features changed, they didn't document it. It's okay. So what's another possible explanation for this? Well, let's look at the possibility of clinical like like, canterp, that mental disorder we examined in the where we'll suck. Bonus suck 25, in which a patient believes that he or she is a wolf or some other kind

of non-human animal. As we learned, this medical condition has been most likely to occur among people who believe in reincarnation and transmigration to souls. Not sure what bills beliefs are or were, but I doubt he was thinking about that kind of stuff at nine years old. Also, the person suffering from this usually believes that they take the form of the most dangerous kind of beast of prey in their region or what has historically the most dangerous

animal. And the wolf would make sense in London and elsewhere in Western Europe. We also learned previously that Dr. Jan Dirk Blom, assistant professor of psychiatry at the University of Gronginen and the Netherlands, mind the archives of psychiatry to find out how common this condition is and found that it's very rare. Since 1850, only 56 original case descriptions of people believing they are metamorphosizing into an animal. And among those, only 13 met the criteria for clinical like cancer p. So super rare. The remaining case is variants of the condition with patients having delusional convictions about I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I with bipolar disorder. Among the patients, 34 were men, 22 were women,

and their symptoms lasted anywhere from a single hour to decades. So, clinical like cancer be very, very rare. But more rare, the demonic possession? Hard to say, since a lot of people think that demonic possession never happens, and others think it happens all the time. Could it have been some other mental illness, perhaps?

We'll never know for sure. It's up to you to decide, you know, what you believe with this kind of stuff. After the warrants helped conduct that ledger exorcism, I mean, supposedly, you know, Bill is cured. He did fade into obscurity after that. So now let's, let's look into another somewhat well-known supernatural case, the warrants were involved in the white lady of Union cemetery. This is that one I mentioned earlier where they supposedly documented on video footage of this ghost. This one not that scary to me again, but interestingly the next ones will be a little more intense. One of Connecticut's best known ghosts supposedly haunts the union cemetery in eastern Connecticut.

If any of you time suckers want to go there, the cemetery sits beside the centuries old eastern Baptist church near the intersection of route 59 and route 136. The locals call the ghost the white lady. She's been seen by dozens since the mid-20th century. The legend of the white lady contains several explanations about who she was, how she came to haunt the cemetery and nearby route 59, where she also appears. One account said that she was buried in the cemetery after she died during childbirth and that her confused spirit is desperately looking for her baby. So that's sad. Two other versions say she was the victim of foul play. Either murdered near the turn of the 20th century and her body thrown into a sinkhole behind the church or killed by her husband sometime in the 1940s. So all kinds of legends. Some claim to a witness, the operation moving around

the cemetery later. Nine others claim to have seen her around 59. A typical side involved in the 1940s, so all kinds of legends. Some claim to have witnessed the operation moving around the cemetery later. Night, others claim to have seen her around 59. A typical siding involving the white lady is one where she appears directly in front of people's cars as they drive by union cemetery. Causing numerous passerby to break hard, swerve to avoid impact. Then when they pop out of the car to look around

for this, you know, suppose the lady they've all said is, you know, they don't find anything. One time, it's gonna be intense. A local fireman driving by the cemetery claims that he hit the white lady. It's not he struck a dark-haired woman in a white dress who walked right down to the road, Route 59. He felt the impact and supposedly discovered a dent in the hood of his vehicle after this happened.

And then found no one in the area he could have possibly hit. That would that would be terrible. To for sure hit somebody like it's not in your head, you know, there's a dent in the car. Other people can see and then you can't find anyone. If my friend told me that I would just assume that they killed somebody and they just, you know, kind of rationalized, no, I wasn't. Yes, there's blood. Yeah, there's blood on the car, and there's a bad dent in some hair and stuff. And there's, I know there's a few teeth, but I ghost. I think ghost, because I look, I looked hard.

I looked hard, you know, and I didn't find anybody. Edler Rainkamp here and reports this white lady. So there's ghosts in their Connecticut backyard, and then Ed goes to investigate in 1990 and he says that he spent seven straight nights in this graveyard in late August, 1990. Said he's show up around midnight each night and then just watch him wait for hours alone

with his camera in his van. Of course he had a van by the way. You don't, you don't ghost hunt and a hatchback. You don't ghost hunt with a Harley. You don't do, you don't, you don't ghost hunt and a hatchback. You don't ghost hunt with a Harley, you don't do it. You don't show up on the F-150. Hey, you're fucking, you're creepy dude with a creepy van. Full of all kind of weird spectral wizard detector stuff. Cameras, paranormal magazines, you know, Cheetos Mountain Dew,

Ed said he kept seeing ghost lights floating all over the place. He knew some type of apparition would show itself soon. And then he sat on September 1st at 2.40 a.m. He was sitting there and he could see all these lights floating around the back of the cemetery. And then all of a sudden, all of the thousands of little bugs, one here is at night, start to quiet down. And he says he could hear a woman weeping. Picks up his camcorder, starts recording. And he says he captured all these various ghost lights forming into the figure of a woman.

The old lights and a woman phenomenon. Man, if I had a nickel, for every time I've seen, you know, either myself or video of lights forming into a ghost woman, I would have zero dollars. Never seen that, but Ed said he did. Said on the film, you know, he took, it looks as if the entity is far away, but actually she's quite close to him,

and he started to walk towards her to get better footage, and they said she disappeared. So he walks back and puts the camera on a tripod, and then she reappeared, and then he started to walk towards her again. She disappears again, because he gets too close, so he backs up, she reappears, and then he said she started coming towards

another time, weaving in between the tombstones. Can you imagine how intense this would be if it really was happening to you? That'd be life-changing, if you really saw something like that. They notice there's a pair of other entities. He describes as being dark and shadowy, moving behind this white lady. He describes them as having the rough shape

and size of black poodles. That's truly his quote, they're black poodles. He says that they're jumping up against her. He says that these things are apparently known in certain paranormal circles as shadow ghosts. And Ed Dottie's shadow ghosts, fucking shadow people, have shadow poodles apparently. Bow jangles, get them, go on, second bow jangles. And they're trying to keep the white lady from making it to Ed.

And then suddenly a huge shadow ghost appears and pushes the white lady towards root 59. And he says that was it. Everything just disappeared. No more ghost slides, no white lady, no shadow ghosts, they're all gone, no more demon poodles. And he drives back home and puts a tape in the VCR, shows the footage to Lorraine, she verifies it. So where is this footage?

Can't find it anywhere. Unfortunately, if it exists, it seems to have never made it to the web. Lorraine claims she has it and then it's under lock and key. Writer and paranormal enthusiasts, Jeff Belinger, did tell the editor of America's haunted roadtrip.com that he grew up in this party Connecticut. You know, I heard many people talk about the white lady and that he did talk to Ed Lorraine about it.

And supposedly he claims he was showing this video. And there's six seconds on this video that he claims are extremely compelling. So maybe that video is locked up as Lorraine claims with all the other Warren relics that we can't see right now and currently, you know, defunct a cult museum. As far as paranormal investigators go, I will say Jeff does not seem to be a complete Wacadoodle. He's written a ton of books on hot teams. He has a docu-series. He's been hosting us since 2013 on Amazon Prime called New England Legends. So nominated for an Emmy. So, you know, who knows? Maybe this footage really does exist and it just hasn't been released for reasons I don't know, maybe it's like the ring, right?

Maybe if you let people start watching it, then I can demon poodles start popping up in everybody's house. How would that annoy me if you had dogs you couldn't, the barked at the time, like poodles tend to do, you know, yelling all the time, you know, nipin' at your heels, and you can't even discipline them. I mean, I guess they can't shit in the house or what if they filled your house with shadow poop? Is that worse than real poop? I don't know, a lot of questions. I mean, I will say watching a video of them interviewed about it, and Lorraine, they do seem to believe this story, you know?

And if you were completely making up, I wasn't thinking like, why would you make up a lame detail like Demon Poodles? Like if I was making up a ghost tale, I certainly would not throw in a detail as life as Demon Poodles. And what happened to the ghost next? It got chased away by some Demon Poodles. By what?

That Demon Poodles? You heard me, Demon Poodles. The ghost was head straight from my camera, but then the, ha ha, these damn demon poodles, yippin' in a yappin', and they spooked my spirit. On to the next legend. Okay, 2013 I watched The Conjuring with Lindsay

in a movie theater in Inglewood, California, and maybe the most entertained I've ever been at a movie theater in my life. Neck and neck with the ring for the scariest move I've ever watched in theater. People losing their shit, screaming out at this fucking screen. I may have screamed a few times. I did actually.

You know, like great horror movie, my skin crawled. Lindsey, I feel like Lindsey spent, I would say, 20% of the movie with her hands covering her eyes. And it's squealed a few times. It's free-car the hell out. Random trivia about the conjuring, that movie grossed over $300 million on a budget of roughly $20 million.

Hot damn. And that's why Studio execs have some of the biggest mansions in Hollywood. Man, New Line Cinema, Warner Brothers, they paid for a lot of flops with the conjuring. James Wan, that dude knows how to direct a horror film. Easily my favorite horror director ever, love is pacing his misdirection the way he scores his films. The dread he conjures up to that tone,

the emotional response as he brings out of the actors and actresses, uses shadows, the intensity of the jump movements, the breath size of the actresses, the hip to waist ratios, the ghosts, the boner size of the male leads, the testicle placement of the supporting actors. The camel toe emphasis on the supporting actresses, the fabric covering the buttocks and bulges of many of the cameo appearances.

And I think I just think it has a great job. And if you see that movie, you do know that everything I said after we're after jump moments was utter perverse and very completely unnecessary childish nonsense. You also know the movie is about Roger and Carolyn Perrin moving into an old farmhouse in Harrisville, Rhode Island and with their dog and their five daughters, spoiler alerts coming up now if you haven't seen this movie. I'm gonna summarize it now.

In the movie version, shit, we're gonna parallel that with the real life, quote unquote, real life version. In the movie version, shit starts to go wrong with the family almost immediately. The clock stops at 307 a.m. starts doing that each night. The dog who refused to enter the house is found dead in the backyard. Daughter gets trapped in the basement by some spirit two other kids are attacked by demonic entity upstairs. The warrants are contacted and

They investigate and they discover that the house once belonged to an accused witch But Shiba who sacrificed her weak old child to the devil and kill herself, while cursing any who would come take her land. They found numerous reports of suicides and murders in their home. They find a secret passage in the wardrobe that leads to the seller will arrange sees

the demonic spirit of Bashiba, a spirit that possesses the mother of the parent family, Carolyn, and then Ed is able to perform an exorcism that saves Carolyn in breaks. The curse. That's the movie version. All right. So what is the quote unquote real version?

Well, in January 1971, the parent family did move into a 14 room farmhouse in Arizona or Rhode Island where Carolyn Roger and their five daughters began to notice strange things happen almost immediately after they move it. Their dog, if they did have one, is not mentioned. So no dog dies right from moving in. No dog is afraid of going into the home. The evidence of a haunting shows itself much more slowly in the real life version than it did in the film.

Carolyn starts noticing the broom would go missing that it seemed to move from place to place on its own. She begins to hear the sound of something scraping against the kettle in the kitchen when no one was in there. Now that would scare the shit out of me, a scraping noise. Coming from a place in your house where you know no one is standing, no one's in there, no thank you.

You know, I feel like this ghost is really bad at haunting. If you just leave in like little dirt piles in a, you know, a form of the clean floor, that's not that freaky to me. You know, just like, hey, hey, hey, other ghosts. So, man, check out the new scare I got to listen to this. What I do is the floor is supposed to be clean, right? Are you with me? The floor is clean. I take a little bit of dirt, put it in the center of the floor.

Ha ha, how scary is that? Uh, I don't know, I don't think that's actually a scary. I mean, do you make a scary sound or anything? Is a, in the pile of dirt, is there like blood or teeth? No, just dust and some lint and like some popcorn kernels. But it shows up out of nowhere. How scary is that? Dude, that's fucking dumb, dude.

No McWelts, it's fucking subtle, you asshole. Forgive me for having an original scare idea. You'd hack. After suddenly appearing dirt piles, Carolyn's girls began to notice spirits around the house. So they really escalated from dirt piles to spirit form. Though for the most part, initially they seemed to be pretty harmless.

Few angry ones though. I guess the Karen allegedly does research into the history of the home. And they discovered that it had been in the same family for eight generations, and that many of them died and are mysterious or horrible circumstances. Several of the kids had been in the same family for eight generations and that many of them died in their mysterious or horrible circumstances. Several of the kids had drowned in nearby creek. One was murdered and a few of them supposedly hanged themselves in the attic.

Carolyn and her family also claimed to have seen the spirit of Ashiba that was depicted in the film, saying she was the angry spirit they've dealt with. Andrea Pairn, the oldest of the five Pairn girls, says, whoever the spirit was, she perceived herself to be the mistress of the house and she resented the competition my mother posed for that position. And it turns out there was actually a person named Baschiba Sherman, who lived near, but not on the Pairn's property in the mid 1800s.

That's part of the problem, I guess, with the real version is the lady, this Baschiba character, didn't never actually live in this home, lived like next door door, basically. The parents' property was formerly the Arnold estate and Boshiba lived in the adjoining Sherman estate. The real Boshiba, you know, born in Rhode Island, 1812. She married fellow Rhode Islander, Judson Sherman, one year, her senior in Thompson, Connecticut on March,

10, 1844. The two were married by Vernon Stiles, local justice of the peace, Bishiba filled the role of housewife, or husband Judson worked as a farmer on their land, fairly well off, but she been in Judson had son Herbert Sherman born with Bishiba was approximately 37 years old, March of 1849. Now it's possible they also had three other children as well who did not survive past the age of seven, though no census reports could be found to confirm that. And now here is where it really is hard to differentiate folklore from outright lies. According to the warrants, the parents and various other paranormal investigators

and enthusiasts, Besheba was rumored to have been a Satanist. And the rumor continues to assert that there was evidence that she had been involved in the death of a neighbor's child, although no trial ever took place. An infant allegedly mysteriously died of a sheba's care, and when the baby was examined, it was determined that the mortal wound was caused by a large sewing needle that had been impaled into the base of the baby's skull. And according to the narrative of this tale, the townspeople did believe that the sheba had sacrificed the infant as an offering to the devil, but due to sufficient evidence,

she was never put on trial. Despite her name being cleared legally, the public was not convinced. You know, and those rumors echoes of kind of like Lizzy Borden here. However, I can't find any old court documents about this trial. So is it folklore? Is it some story passed down from generation to generation in this area based partially at least in truth, or did the parents and the warrants, or one of them just make it up.

Historical investigator, Jamie Rubio, who runs a really cool website called dreamingcasuallypoetry.blogspot.com, doesn't think Peshiba was ever accused of Satanic sacrifice. Jamie points out, do you really think that the town's people would have allowed Peshiba to be buried in the cemetery next to her husband and children if they thought she was a witch?

Eh, it's a good point. I mean, Bishiba was buried in the town's cemetery. The grave side of Bishiba Sherman is located in the historic cemetery across the street from the fire station and Rotary in downtown Harrisville, Ireland. And Jamie also asked, do you think the church would have given her a funeral or even mentioned her in the Obituary of the newspaper had she been so hated in the community? I don't know. I mean, there really was just rumors floating around that she was a satanic witch when she was younger, but not as was ever proven. And then she had a lot of family members in the area, where in census record, excuse me, do indicate she did.

I don't think it's weird for rumors not to show up in the paper, right? I think they could have, you know, gave her normal obituary and just not mentioned these rumors because they are just rumors. You know, like if she outwardly professed to be Christian, what choice would some local minister have but to give her a Christian burial? You know, at that point in history, I feel like that would just say, just be like, well, all right, so there's weird rumors, but we're still going to give her a Christian burial. You know, at that point in history, I feel like that would just, they would just be like,

well, all right, there's weird rumors, but we're still gonna give her a funeral. Like, I'm not saying like, like I think this woman did worship the dark lord and sacrifice the baby to the dark lord. I'm just saying that if she was doing this shit in secret, not weird for it to be not mentioned in the paper, so the day, not weird for her to still get in a bitch wear

that doesn't mention this. You know, I think local paper journalists would not want to slander somebody with accusations of Satanism if they weren't completely proven. I mean, there was all kind of rumors of floating around in Reagan's rye grub that never made it to the papers. That'd be pretty shitty, but slander is gossip

in the paper when somebody died. You know, just Betty Damon passed last Wednesday at Saringa Hospital, surrounded by family and friends at the age of 78. She was loved and respected by many, including her husband, James Earl, who loved Betty dearly for over 50 years. She'll be missed by many, such as the fellow Bridge Club members.

She played cards with every Tuesday night and the folks at the Eagles Club, where she helped with Bingo and Burgers, first Monday of every month. Betty will also be remembered as a loving mother, grandmother, sister and wife, and also, as a hot piece of ass by the many, many, many, many men. Rumor to have banged Betty behind the silver dollar saloon throughout much of her 20s and 30s, where legend has it.

She'd drop her panties for anyone who bought her a few beers or gave her a few bucks. Blowjob Betty, she was known in some circles, was believed to have put the member of nearly every man in the county into her mouth at least once. Town drunk Gus Okres and a regular at Dougan's tavern, the sole source of all of this information, said that Betty could suck the scales off her rattlesnake. Betty's funeral will be held at the thousand oak cemetery Saturday noon. I don't think you see this kind of obituary. Satanic kid murder or normal settler or somewhere in between, but Shiba Sherman died as an old woman,

May 25th, 1885, roughly four years after her husband, Judson, in 1881. And how did the parent family come up with the Bishiba connection? How do they even know about this? Did the demon announce herself? I am Bishiba Sherman, Satan worshipping baby stabbing witch, and you've fallen into my curse.

Now the family's connection to the spirit of the Sheba Sherman came into suggestion of paranormal investigators Ed and Lorraine Warren. Carolyn told Ed and Lorraine about an incident that happened a few years earlier when the investigators first met with her since she was lying on the sofa, all of a sudden felt a piercing tight pain in her calf and then the muscle began to spasm. Examined it, she noticed it's a puddle of blood at the point of impact. She checks for bees, anything else that could have caused a puncture in her leg but found nothing. And her daughter's book, Andrea Parent,

describes the wound as perfectly concentric circle as if a large sewing needle had impaled her skin. Uh huh. Weirdly you'd go right to sewing needle though. But when Carolyn told Ed and Lorraine Warren in the story, or this story in conjunction with the tale of a Bishiba Sherman who had been suspected of killing an infant with a knitting needle

as they found out Lorraine then suggested that the Sheba Sherman could have taken the needle with her into the afterlife and used it to stab Carolyn in the calf. From that point on, Lorraine Warren began to refer to the demonic presence in the parent house as Bishiba. I love how they decided that Bishiba could take a so in needle to the afterlife. That's a little weird to me that that's the object you would get to take is a so in needle. You know, I shall take the devil's needle. I will so in stab and hell and also sometimes that will cross stitch and in other times stab someone in the leg on earth.

Not a big, not a big wound, nothing dramatic like an eyeball, nothing lethal like the temple, just you know, in the leg where it will definitely hurt a little bit but not cause lasting damage. And then the parents came to believe that it was the Shiva spirit that was tormenting them according to Andrea, the family experience experienced other spirits as well that smelled like rotting flesh because beds to rise up off the floor, she claims her father would enter the basement, feel a cold, stinking presence behind him. Fuck that.

Oh, if I'm going out of the basement and I start and I just suddenly get really cold and you smell like rotting flesh. Just like, I'm out of there. I'm out of the house for a little while. I'm going to do some yard work. And I just suddenly really cold and you smell like rotting flesh. Bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap,

bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap. They stay away from the dirt floor seller, but I guess the heating equipment would sometimes fail mysteriously and Roger would have to go down and get scared again. Though the movie version of events culminates with Ed performing an exorcism, Lorraine insists that that didn't happen because it has to be performed by Catholic priests. She says no exorcism happened in this case, but they did do a saience.

Dr. Andrea claims to have secretly witnessed this saience when she was a little kid. She said, I thought I was going to pass out. My mother began to speak a language not of this world and a voice not her own, her chair levitated, and she was thrown across the room. I don't think you come back from that mentally if that happens for real. After the say-ons, Roger supposedly kicks the warrants out, worried about his wife's mental stability.

Ah, yeah. And then according to Andrea, the family continues to live in the house due to financial instability until they're able to move in 1980, which points to spirits, I guess, supposedly were silenced in the haunting ceased. When asked why the family endured the spirit invaders for years, the whole ordeal took place between 1970, 1980, parents says, I hear this question most every day. I think we were supposed to have this experience and share it with the world. No, I'm out of there.

When asked why they went into the cellar, Carolyn said the family stayed away from the dirt floor to the cellar, but like I said, had to go there sometimes when the equipment would feel, or equipment would fail in Roger to go have to fix the furnace. So did any of this happen? Daughter Andrea Paren stated in an interview that everyone who's lived in this house

that we know has experienced this. Some of less screaming and running for their lives. The man who moved in to begin the restoration of the house when we left sold it screaming, running to his car without his tools, without his clothing, and everyone back to the house and consequently the people who owned it, the adjacent landowners, never moved in in a sat vacant for years. That's what Andrew says. But the current owner of the home, Norma Sutcliffe, says she's doing just fine. She's not running the screaming and

abandoning everything she owns. And in a 2014 interview with Providence Journal, she says that she does not believe that any ghosts or spirits haunt the house. She sick of people trespassed on her property and bothering her neighbors since the conjuring came out. And people have been trying to find ghosts around her home. For her, ironically, she does hear things go bump at the night and those things are assholes trying to find other things to go bump at the night. So, right? So, it sounds like it's bunch of bullshit. However, there is a video of Andrea Perrin interviewing Norma before the conjuring came

out. And in this video, Norma does say that she's heard things she can't explain. She does seem to think the house is haunted. She does say that she's, she and other people have heard mysterious voices and footsteps. She said she heard a door banging in the front hall, sounds of people talking in another room, sound of footsteps accompanied by a door in another room and her husband's chair vibrating in the study. She said she saw blue light, shoot across the bedroom and that her husband once saw fog in

the house. She also allowed ghost hunters to explore her home when the sci-fi TV show ghost hunters. So maybe after the conjuring came out, she just decided she wanted people to stay the hell off of her property. Maybe she's balfamette trying to trick us. I don't know. But some dude named Keith, he thinks that she's just sick of people bothering a house and has changed her story. And this is this is some guy who posted the following comment under Norma's YouTube interview with Carolyn, where she says, I live in Harrisville or no, he says I live in Harrisville, a mile

from the house. I spoke with Norma in September 2013, weeks after the Conjuring movie came out. Norma was quite furious at the time because of the many curious people who had been trespassing on her property since the movie's release, and she has had to call the local police many times. She told me that the house is not haunted, and that the movie is mostly made up by Hollywood. I disputed this with her, knowing that she had previously acknowledged her own ghost experiences in the house as shown in this video, and also on the TV show Ghost Hunters, 2nd Season

Episode 7. I'm sure that Normal was extremely upset by the outcry from this video and also on the TV show Ghost Hunters II season episode 7. I'm sure that Norne was extremely upset by the outcry from his film and wants people to believe the stories were all fabricated so they will leave her house alone. However, I have no doubt that the house is truly haunted. Alright, so again, maybe something really did go on in this house? Maybe something is still going on. I for one would not want to sleep in this house overnight. No thank you. There's no way I would record this episode from that house. Maybe something is still going on. I for one would not want to sleep in this house overnight. No, thank you. There's no way I would record this episode from that house. All right. One more big one.

The one that inspired the movie, a haunt or the haunting Connecticut. But first, Ken's comment made me want to look into other web comments. So time today for today's idiots of the internet. Idiot. for today's idiots of the internet. It is an adventure that is an adventure that is an adventure. There's a video called Ed and Lorraine Warren, what to do when you see a ghost posted by Ali Mazurin in 2009. It's a clip taken from Son of La Tone Spirits, former public access show called Seekers of the Supernatural. Pretty hilarious videos if you wanna watch them actually. This one's a seven minute video.

Ed's advice is to ask the ghost. In the name of God, is there something I can do to help you? He says, if it's an evil spirit, it will disappear immediately. And if it's a positive one, Ed says a relative, like as in, like a relative or some lost spirit that's been drawn to you, you might just get some kind of communication when you ask them if you can help. However, a lot of rules.

If you run into a bad spirit in a haunted house, a powerful angry spirit in a place with a lot of negative energy, you're gonna be too scared to ask the ghosts if you can help. So in those cases, Ed recommends that you run, that you leave the house, and also says that those spirits can do great physical harm to people. Kind of a muddy answer. That's weird to me. Apparently, if an evil ghost is just wondering about, you can ask, in the name of God, can I help you? An evil spirit just goes, just vanishes immediately.

Just that easy, just go on. You don't, you don't speak to spook out of this world. But if you're in the evil spirits home, then the evil spirit is like, nah, motherfucker, you can't help me. You can feed me, see more, feed me, see more. And then it does horrible things to you. So ask for help if you encounter an evil spirit in like a seven or like a, like a not haunted Starbucks drive through. Run away if you encounter a spirit

and a cartoonish Scooby-Doo-esque haunted mansion. Now let's see what the comment section has to say about this video. Fifth Girls Guide posts, what to do if you see a ghost, takes a Bible and yeet yourself out the window, duh. I just like this one because you says yeet. Do you meet sex?

No, about yeet. My son, Kaira, says yeet all the time. Drives Lindsay night crazy. It's a versatile word, yeet. I think it started one because you says yeet. Do you meet sex? No, about yeet. My son, Kyter, says yeet all the time. Drives Lindsay night crazy. It's a versatile word, yeet. I think it started as something you say when somebody made a three pointer in basketball. Now it can just be something you say when you're excited, happy, like a battle cry,

or to describe throwing something. You know, man, he just yeeted that. He just yeeted that football off to the side. Or throwing yourself, you know? He just done yeeted yourself out that window, fool. Well, rusty nickels goes full Scooby-Doo and posts. I didn't thought this was cute. What to do when you see a go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go- get to a door and enter exit it. Hide out then get distracted, partake in some wacky hijinks, possibly get stoned, again, eat more snacks, create more hijinks, encounter the

goast as you are running around, crashing into it. Wait for your friends to show up just in the nick of time to unmask the goast. Enjoy a laugh as the goast gets arrested and take it to jail thanks to you meddling kids. Pretty rusty adorable. Pretty pretty rusty. Pretty adorable rusty. Pretty nice. Okay. Now it's just something more fun. A user, jolly bourgeois posts, what do I do when I see a ghost? Well, the ghost that I see are those of my ancestral spirits and the only feeling I get is that of being loved. Most of the women folk of my family see them and hear them as well and we consider it a blessing. A token that they carry now to check upon us from time to time. They also particularly seem to like attending graduations and weddings and flock to give their approval of newborn babies. We've never been scared. Bullshit.

Bullshit. Shut the fuck up, Charlie. I don't believe you for a second. Mostly, because you use the word woman folk. Women folk or women folk? Who speaks like that? The women folk, what are you posting this from 1812? What are you talking about? But nonsense. You just casually seen ancestors at the hospital and graduation, funerals just all the time.

Oh yeah, yeah, they're always around. All right, well then fuck and record it. Now, I mean, I don't know you. I can't know that you're lying by do think you're full of shit. I think you and your family lie to each other about all the ancestors you supposedly see. I mean, if your family just casually seen

and here and goes, just showing up, you know, like a, like in return to the Jedi, that they're at Ewok Village, well then, I don't know, capture it somehow. Get a picture. Why don't you do that? Oh yeah, probably because it's not happening. And I know, I know, and I know.

The warrants may not be any less full of shit than, than Jolie. I know. It's just the way he wrote that post. It's just really irritating me. User Ray Bryce posts, I love this. I love to fake tough guys in these situations. Ray, Ray posts, cowards.

I try and fight it every time. Get the fuck out of here, Ray rice. No, you don't. No, you don't. Shut up with your bullshit. Oh, you're so brave. Fighting the many, many goes, you see. What do you fight them with? Do you fight them with the many, many candy bars?

You have hidden in your room, decorated like a child's, because you either are one or are technically an adult who lives like a child at home with his parents. Do you fight them with your Disneyland lightsaber? Do you fight them with the nunchucks? You ordered off Amazon that you don't know how to use? Do you fight it with your ps4 controller? Do you wear a Pokemon t-shirt when you fight them? Do you wear dragon balls? ET shirt when you fight them? Doom 666 post All of you doubters can kick rocks until it's happened to you kick rocks

Spirit saying like bigfoot to you, kick rocks. Spirit's ain't like Bigfoot, they actually exist. Kick rocks? That is not the kind of insult I expect if someone with the username of Doom 666. That's something I expect from somebody with the username like Nito Bombito, or Auschucks McGee. If you don't like it, you can kick rocks. Heck yeah, you can

kick rocks. You can make like a tree and leave and kick rocks. You can go get bent. If you don't heckin' like to do mom throwing around this 666 devil party. Frickin' A, you can kick rocks. Use your process posts offered a life insurance policy and directed to your PowerPoint presentation, it will leave. Ha! You win process. We'll play. Mr. Rees posts, I get anxiety when his spirit is around. Okay. Maybe Mr. Rees should change their username to ads Diddly Squad to conversations, or this

goes without saying, or get ready for a whole lot of nothing. Andy Freeman posts, what do you do when you see a ghost? Visit a local psychologist? Yeah, yeah, probably the first thing I would do. Phoenix God posts ask them for lottery numbers. Excellent. Didn't think of that, Phoenix God. Yeah, why can't ghost give us money numbers? I mean, they can see the future, maybe they had other powers. Jacob Castro posts, if you saw God in person, you would die because the human body is fragile. And if you saw God in person, you would die, because the human body is fragile. And if you saw the greatest of God, you would just die. Your body that is, not your spirit.

That's why God can't show himself to us, because our minds would not be able to cope with it. Okay, I don't know what this has to do with the ghosts here in the situation, Jacob Castro. But thanks for definitively clearing up on life's greatest mysteries. We can't see God because we would die, case closed. Why would you even question that? It's truth. Jacob has said it to us. He knows everything.

God told him one time because he was talking to God because you can talk to God but not see God. All right? If God goes into your ear hole, you're fine. If God goes into your eye hole, you're fine. If God goes into your eye hole, pow! Fucking obviously. Finally, user Ben Gowthin Post, have you heard of an analogy?

This is my favorite one. He goes, have you heard of an analogy? You can't see the president directly without scads of luck involved, but you can see him on TV or hear news about him. You don't see God directly for the most part, but you can hear of his miracles and hear witness of what he's done in people's lives.

The problem comes in that the devil doesn't want people to hear or recognize his account for what they are. So he helps the non-believer to come up with reasons not to believe. Have you ever heard of an analogy ban? Scene or not seen the president is a really shitty analogy. For a scene or not seen the president is a really shitty analogy. For a scene or not seen ghosts or God,

you fucking idiot. An analogy is a comparison between two things, typically for the person of explanation or clarification. And the things you're comparing to, you know, the comparing, they need to relate to one another. Otherwise, the analogy just adds confusion to what you're trying to explain as opposed to clarification.

We know the president is real, Ben. Unless you're a flat-er, or who literally will not believe in anything at all, unless you specifically have seen it, which means you're a moron, no one is questioning the existence of the president. Like people do question the existence of ghosts. People debate that. Everyone who is not a paranoid fucking moron knows the president is real. Get out of here. There's no doubt about that. Unless you're intellectually disabled to the point that no analogy is not a paranoid fucking moron knows the president is real. Get out of here.

There's no doubt about that. Unless you're intellectually disabled to the point that no analogy is going to help you understand anything. There's no reasons to use this because you just truly don't have the cognitive capacity to understand basic obvious things exist. Little known people doing known jobs, or sorry, like like like known people doing known jobs, you know, you haven't had the chance to meet personally, not a good comparison for ghosts.

A good comparison would be like bacteria, right? You can't see bacteria. They're too small to be seen with an naked eye. Can't see bacteria do press conference, right? Yet these microorganisms surround you at all times and have been proven to exist. We now have the technology to see them using microscopes. And we know that they existed long before microscopes, right?

Back when we couldn't see them, they still existed, right? When we couldn't see them. That same thing could be true for ghosts today. Someday we may have the technology to see the ghosts that are possibly around us right now, and in the future prove their existence. Just because you can't see them now, just like we couldn't see back to you for, you know,

for all of human history prior to microscopes, that does not prove they do not exist. Does that make sense, Ben? And that is all for today's idiots of the internet. I'm gonna get you back. All right, you meet Saks ready for one more tale? Hmm? I am. I could have picked more, but I want to explore a few in depth, you know, rather than just touch on a bunch.

Let's talk about another Warren based tale, the haunting and Connecticut. This is a crazy, it's one of the 2009 horror film tells the tale of, and again, spoiler alerts, the Campbell family. They move into a house that turns out to be a former mortuary to lessen the strains of travel on their cancer-stricken son, Matthew. Shortly after moving in, Matt has visions of an old bearded man and corpses with symbols

carved into their skin. Then Peter the Dad learns that the home was a funeral home. At the hospital, Matt tells another patient, Reverend Nicholas Papsco about divisions and Nicholas invises him to find out what the spirit wants. Later, Matt finds a burned figure in the room who begins to move towards him super creepy. When the family comes home, they find a shirtless Matt with his fingers blood covered from scratching at the wall. Matt and his brother and some cousins find a box of photographs which show Jonah, a young man from Matt's vision, a sands, emitting an ectoplasm.

Wendy and Matt find out that the funeral home was run by a man named Ramsey Ikeman. Ikeman also conducted psychic research it would host seance with Jonah as the medium. At one seance, all those attending, including Ikeman were found dead and Jonah had disappeared. Then they find a box of photographs which show Jonah, a young man from Matt's visions,

add a seance amid an ectoplasm, Wendy and Matt find out that the funeral home, wait, oh, sorry, I'm repeating myself. Peter and Sarah learned the Matt's visions, add a say on's, emitting the extra plasm, windy and matte, find out to the funeral home. Wait, oh, sorry, I just repeated myself. Peter and Sarah learned the Matt's cancer treatments had no effect. They discovered that Matt has escaped the hospital. Back at the house, Nicholas leaves the message, telling the family to get out of the house immediately. Jonas Spirit was actually protecting them

from the spirits. Matt breaks through the walls in the front room with an axe revealing the dusty corpses. Ackman had hid in the walls of the house. He forces winning the kids to get out barricades himself and starts tearing down all the walls as corpses begin to tumble around in the room. The views switch us from Matt to Jonah who seems to be occupying Matt's body might lights the bodies in the room on fire and then later investigators arrive at the house to find

it in golden flames as the fire department arrives there and Peter frantically try to get in and save Matt the fire department arrives, Sarah and Peter frantically try to get in and save Matt, the spirits, finally free, disappear. Outside, everyone wants to tearfully as the emergency room crew attempts to resuscitate a dying Matt, as Matt slips away, he has a vision of himself standing in the graveyard where he sees Jonah no longer appearing burnt.

He seems to follow Jonah when he hears his mother's voice and then he returns to his body and Jonah's spirit leaves him. Matt's cancer is then cured, the house is rebuilt, and resold with no further reported incidents of haunting. So that's the movie, that's the movie version. How does that compare with the real story? Let's dig into that. In 1986, Carmen and Al Snittiger moved into the small town

of Southington, Connecticut with the purpose of being closer to the hospital at which their oldest and Philip was being treated for Hodgkin's lymphoma. So so far so good. That obviously lines up with what we just heard. Having fallen on hard financial times, the family jumped at the chance to rent what happened to be the perfect house. It was large enough for the family, which included three children in a cousin.

And the rent was in an affordable price range. It was while they were moving in that Alan made a startling discovery. The basement was a peculiar room that was complete with the bombing tables and tools. Finds out that the house was used as a funeral home. The basement was sectioned to several rooms. Was the only room deemed large enough to serve as the two boys bedroom. I don't know. How do you miss that in the walkthrough?

How do you not find out that a home you're going to move your family into is once a funeral home and still has a death room of that in the walkthrough? Like how do you not find out that a home you're gonna move your family into is once you're funeral home and still has a death room of sorts in the basement? Always check the basement before you move into a new home. Always look in the scalar, seller, scalar. Always look in the scalar, you guys. You get down there and dig into the scalar. No, you gotta do a quick monster check before you move in.

But still, seems to match up to the movie pretty well. Not long after moving in, Carmen says she began experiencing strange phenomena, like items disappearing and her children reporting strange people in the house, as well as hearing voices and the sounds of hundreds of birds taking flight. Her oldest to at the time, it was in the middle of radiation treatment began to exhibit radical personality shifts, becoming withdrawn and angry. He starts brooding, begins to write dark poetry with necrophiliac themes. During one intense episode, he attacks the cousin with the intent to rape her, uh,

raper. Uh, his family takes him in for an evaluation where he's pronounced schizophrenic. He's removed from the house and then seems to get better, uh, until returning. I'd be very accountable for the cousin for him to come back. Ah, sorry about the whole trying to attack him rapier earlier. Now the story seems to shift away from the movie and gets even creepier actually to the movie. Maybe the movie toned down the truth a bit or the quote unquote truth.

You know, other phenomena that reported by the state of girls included the repeated and brutal rape of both Carmen and her niece as well of act as acts of saturday being performed on her husband by unseen entities. Definitely did not make the movie. Studio execs are probably, you know why we cut the ghost out of me out? Cause we didn't like to stuck with the NC17 label rating. If you look at the rating got, it specifically says

any scenes depicting or looting to spectral butt rape will automatically result in an NC17 rating. It's right there. No, we can't do it. How do you not move out when demons start raping the whole family? I mean, it's not like just the kids are saying it, you know, that the demons are raping them. Like, you know, in that case, you know, it's a parent of some imagined to the kids. I would understand not believing them because that's the outrageous claim. Like if Kyler suddenly told me that he needed to sleep in Lindsay and I's room because because he kept getting ghost raped.

There's no way I'm buying that. There's no way. Like nah dude, I don't know what you watched or read that you weren't supposed to, but you're not gonna ruin my sleep my sex life now. But dad, it's gonna get me at house every night. Well, sounds like you need to work on clenching your butt a little better, right? Need to seal it up a little tighter when you go to bed.

Seal it off, bud. You can do it, show your brownie tight. Keto's 20 doubles out. That's what I do. I only sleep fully clenched ever. I have never fallen asleep with a loose bottle. Now, go to your room, little ghost lover, but it wasn't just the kids, you know,

mom and dad are getting spirit raped. No one's holes are safe. At that point, you know, money being tight or not, you gotta get out of there. Better to sleep crammed up in a studio apartment, you know, where everyone's holes are safe, then to have the whole fam in some big roomy house where there's a surplus of demon dick just waiting to give your high knee a little bit of a ghost throttling. In addition to the ghost raping, mop water started turning blood red, scenes of sense of

rotting flesh into K reporting throughout the house. The mom started seeing various operations, one with long black hair and black eyes. Oh no! Whew! I don't like that thought at all. Fuck that. I don't know why that suddenly just creeped me out. I saw some weird ass spirit after I get in butt raped by a ghost and then I see something with the like long black hair and just all black eyes. Fuck, I have a fuck. Do you sleep in your house after that? No way, no way. Go to a homeless shelter, homeless shelter where there's not a black-haired person with black

eyes far better than a nice house. I don't care if you live on the nice house and the lake. Gate of the state. Once black hair black eyes, the black and rapers start showing up, phew, out, out. Huh, in addition to the ghost raping, oh, sorry, I just said that. Oh, and then they saw another entity after the black hair and black eyes wearing a pinstripe tuxedo,

and then they saw another entity that they came to know is shadow chickatilo. What, that's been deal? I barely rape you compared to other ghosts Other ghosts are raping all the time with a heart of the demon the powercocks I'd be right there was a shame cog about or no one for say for sake of comparison I friendly as rapist in house. I like a little bit of rastling You know, I'm more weird friend than a monster. I'm more bad slumber party guest.

Of course she did not see Shire Togatillo. Finally, the scenicers designed the contact Ed and Lorraine Warren, along with John Zaffis and a few investigators, the Warrens moved into the house for several weeks until they'd experienced everything the scenicers claimed, other than the ghost raping, neither Ed or Lorraine claimed to experience that. If they did experience that, they left that out of their story.

During their time in the house, the Warrens claim to have seen firsthand stuff like demons floating around, slapping family members. They look into the history of the house that reveals one of the undertakers of the funeral home was found guilty of necrophilia, which fed fuel to the fire. You got to the point that the Warrens deemed it necessary for a full-scale exorcism of the property after which the house was judged cleared by the point that the Warren's deemed it necessary for a full-scale exorcism of the property, after which the house was judged cleared by the Warren's, the Steenhiker family that lived in the house for two years

after it was exercised and moved to Tennessee. And by them exercise, it means they got their little crew together. Bodies were never found in the walls. The home was never burned down. The Jota character is based on nothing real. The Sun Phillip did get cured of cancer. Unfortunately, Phillip's cancer came back many years later when he was 38 and he died in 2012. But did this stuff really happen? According to the current owner of the Southington home, a woman named Susan Trottesmith

know. She says that her husband and her have now lived in the house for 10 years. She thinks the house is wonderful. She thinks when it comes to the hauntings that it's all a bunch of Hollywood foolishness in the stories of Ludicrous. Also, Ray Garton, the man who would co-author a book about the sneaker's story with the Warrens, a book called In A Dark Place, published in 1992 would make the following claim in an interview. He said, I was off for the job, and because I used to read Ed and the Rain Warrens,

a read of Ed and the Rain Warrens exploits in the National Enquirer when I was a kid, I took it. I went to Connecticut and spent time with the warrants and the sneaker's. When I found the sneaker's couldn't keep their individual story straight, I went to Ed warn and explain the problem. They're crazy, he said. All the people who come to us are crazy. And that's why they come to us.

Just use what you can and make the rest up. You write scary books, right? We'll make it up and make it scary. That's why we hired you. So that's supposedly what Ed Warren said. The remaining sneaker children now all grown up, do still seem to think it did happen. Carmen Reed, formerly Carmen sneaker,

is now a spiritual advisor. She plans on writing another book about the experience. So were the Warrens just a couple of con artists? Did Ed really believe all these people were crazy like Ray Gartenon stated or did he and Ray just have some kind of falling out, you know, probably regarding book profits or the split of profits and did Ray just decide to throw the warrants credibility under the bus. I think that's always got to be a possibility. Even if Ed and the rain were believers, does that mean any of this actually really truly happened? I mean, we can't see the video of the white lady of Eastern cemetery.

You know, why weren't they able to give us anything super definitive in all these stories? Something that would, you know, without a shadow of a doubt, prove the existence of spirits and demons, maybe because they don't exist, or maybe because like, you know, because like my bacteria analogy earlier, maybe we just don't have the right equipment yet. You know, what if some of all of these tales or all of these tales are real? I know I've been sarcastic with a lot of this stuff. I think the logical part of my brain,

but all it takes is for one of these stories to be real to have the world be a much scarier place. I mean, what if the warrants, what if they made up some of it, but what if they didn't make up all of it? What if they didn't make up any of it? What if they didn't make up any of it? What if they really saw this shit? You know, I get real tough, like right now,

when it's daytime, I'm in a well lit room, you know, talking about, talking about all this stuff. But what if, I don't know, you know, what if, what if they're right? I don't know. Clench your butts, I guess. You know, when you fall asleep, night meets sex, guess anything is possible, you know? you don't wanna take, you know,

not take this stuff seriously, and then end up giving birth to some kind of demon butt baby down the road. Maybe that's how the apocalypse starts. Now you get demon butt raped, and you give birth to Satan. Maybe, maybe. For sure right now, it's time for Top 5 takeaways.

Time, suck, top five takeaways. Number one, Ed and the Rain Warren founded the New England Society for Psychic Research in 1952 and researched paranormal incidents around the world until 1996. And the rain continued to consult on paranormal investigations after Ed's death in 2006 until just a few years ago, they were married for almost 62 years. Number two, films based on cases the warrants of investigate include the conjuring, conjuring two, Annabelle, Annabelle creation,

the haunting and Connecticut. These films have grossed well over a billion dollars at the box office alone. Number three, Ed and Lorraine's son-in-law, Tony Spira. And their daughter, Judy, carried on the war and legacy by continuing to operate the New England Society for Psychic Research, the website for the society if you're curious is Warren.net. Number four, every story of the Warrens have become famous for has been disputed.

Many believe the Warrens are nothing more than con artists. However, many others do verify what the Warrens claim to have seen. When it comes to the paranormal, you know, science has yet to prove it. It's up to you if you want to believe this stuff or not. And again, you know, I don't believe when the uh, when the sun's up, when the sun goes down, uh, the stuff starts feeling way too possible. And number five, new info, do you want to become a demonologist just like Ed and Lorraine Warren? Well, you can't. The school of parapsychology is online class in relation to demonology exorcisms and parapsychology. Not to share how much it costs,

didn't feel like registering to find out, yet registered to figure that out. I do know, it only costs 75 bucks to get an honorary bachelor of paranormal studies from Bishop Long at bishopsJameslong.com. Woohoo! He looks extremely wacky-doodle, based on the pictures on his website.

In order to obtain an honorary bachelor's students must complete the paranormal studies program which consists of four courses. They are genealogy, demonology, angelology, and calculus two. Now of course, not calculus two. It's paranormal studies, this is the other one. That's the fourth course. The student must complete the entire course with no lower,

this C minus average, no Ds for demonologists. Bishop Long will not accept it. He takes a $75 baster degree very seriously. You can also get an honorary master of paranormal studies from Bishop Jimmy in order to obtain an honorary master's. You just got to do the same thing, you got to complete the same course with a C-plus or better grade point. I have only the best of the best get their masters only C plus or higher.

And you have to complete either a thesis that is 10 pages long or do a project discussed by you and Bishop Long. You know, agreed upon by Bishop by the premiere of Bishop Long. And you can get an honorary doctorate of paranormal studies. You just got to the same thing. Just complete the same exact program with the B plus. Ooh, really fucking cream with the crop right now. Gotta have a B plus or better grade point average

and complete 15 page thesis or project to sign a Bichablong. So really, you can get a doctorate for 75 bucks. I gotta say, as doctorates go, that's a hell of a deal. I actually do kind of want to do it. A time-soaker already signed me up to become a reverent, you know, for 50 bucks. So I'm already revering, you know, Universal Church now for like another 75 bucks. Probably less time that I took to put this suck together. Definitely less time. I can be a doctor. Reverend Dr. Cummins, I can marry you and if needed I can rid your marriage of demons Hail Nimrat

The warrants have been sucked that's a fun one a lot of stories of that topic weird interesting tales You know my my gut as you probably figured out says it You know this does frightful shit. But who now? It's only one of these tails has to be real. Oh man, what if, oh man, what if next we got come back and I'm like, well my butt's sore. I jumped about a demon butt rape too many times. And now some horny demon has an effect in my room.

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Next week, the weirdness continues with the space lizard selected topic, the Russian sleep experiment. What the hell is that topic, the Russian sleep experiment. What the hell is that? That's a great question. It's a permanent fixture in the fabric of deep, kind of, internet lore. The account of a horrific experiment said it had been conducted in the Soviet Union in the late 1940s. The subjects were five political prisoners placed into a sealed chamber exposed to a gas, which

prevented them from sleeping at all. After 15 days, the researchers entered the chamber, found that the men sleep deprived beyond any previous sleep deprivation in human history, committed horrors that can scarcely be conceived. From one account, the food rations, past day five, and not been as much as touched, there were chunks of meat from dead, test, subject's thighs, and chest. Stuffed into the drain in the center of the chamber, all four surviving test subjects had large portions of muscle and skin torn away from their bodies,

the destruction of flesh and exposed bone on their fingertips, indicated that the wounds were inflicted by hand. La! The abdominal organs blow the ribcage on all four test subjects had been removed. While the heart, lungs and diaphragm remained in place to skin a most of the muscles attached to the ribs had been ripped off, exposing the lungs to the ribcage, blood vessels, organs remain intact.

Yeah, like an on and on and on. Scary shit, right? But did it even happen? And if it did happen, how did this, or if it did not happen, how did this urban legend, if that's what it is, become part of Web lore, become part of Web culture, what other similar interesting dark kind of modern folklore tales are out there? A suck into either terrible real tales or interesting urban web legends next Monday. And now it is time for Time Sucker Updates.

Coming in hot this week! With an intense update to the Catherine Knight tale from Time Sucker Chris D, who writes Holy fuck! Dear Reverend Dr. Suck Master, Prophet of Nimrod, Exalted or Triple M, Belly Rubber of Bojangles Esquire. I've been a huge fan for years and got my wife and coworker to join the Colesy Curious, your latest episode, Suck in Catherine Knight brought back some flashbacks to one of my own brushes with mortality. A long time ago when I was 21 or 22,

I was a graveyard shift bartender in New Orleans. Oh man, that'd be an interesting job. I was dating this girl who I considered way out of my league. The sex was awesome, but at the point of climax, you'd occasionally whisper into my ear, oh baby, I'm gonna kill you. For a while, I thought this was just hot, awesome sex.

As time went on, however, she'd switched between being extra clingy and not caring about me, the drop of the hats. I tried to break up with her a couple of times, she refused. She literally said, no, we're not done. I was confused and frustrated, but the makeup sex was always mind blowing. One day, while finishing up my 2 a.m. to 10 a.m. bar tending shift, I was

complaining to a couple of my buddies at the bar that I needed to end things once and for all. After a handful of shots and some encouragement for my friends, I marched down to her house to her house to tell her it was over for good. I pound on the door, she answered wearing an open silk bathrobe and nothing else. I suddenly forgot why I was there. I bet she said she had just drawn a bath and asked if I wanted to join. I happily obliged. She led me to the bathroom where I quickly undressed and climbed in. She said she was going to get some tea for us.

Well, I sat in the tub. I remembered why I had gone there in the first place and I began trying to get to again get the strength to break up. When she returned, I was trying to come up with an excuse when I saw an extension cord trailing behind her. Before I could say anything, she did a fake trip, said oops, and tossed the toaster into the bathtub. I watched in slow motion as the tub plopped into the water or as the toaster plopped into

the water. It landed and I slowly got out of the tub. I'm sure we were both in shock as she stood there staring straight ahead. I pulled the toaster out of the tub by the cord and calmly told her that she had to push the plunger down to complete the circuit. I placed a toaster on the toilet, grabbed my clothes to leave. She still hadn't moved. I walked 12 blocks home, naked with my clothes under my arm.

It was 11 a.m. I was numb and confused. I was, that was sounds of people to see. I told myself that I explained the whole story if it copsed out me. None ever did. It is New Orleans after all. I have run into her a couple times over the years since that day, but this never comes up.

I'm not sure if she doesn't remember or if she's waiting for me to say something. Either way, I'm alive and the story has gotten me more than a few free beers over the years. I'd appreciate the story. Thanks for all you do. Keep on sucking. My God, man, you are lucky to be alive.

Anyone, anyone disappears, who you find out was connected to that lady, you better tell that story to the police. I hope the moment with the toaster and the tub scared some sense into her. Thank you for sharing that tale. That is, yeah, very scary, castor, 90 type X. Time sucker Oakley is spreading the suck globally and her best bud, Caitlin wants me to know about it.

Dearest Mighty Master of Suck, I just wanted to drop your little love and positive vibes and thank you for blowing my mind with so much awesome information, my best friend Oakley and introduced me to the suck a few months ago and now I owe her my life. She is perhaps the greatest time suck fan that lives today and she is doing an amazing job

of spreading the suck. We are on a year long exchange in Austria, we both live in Australia. So she's doing her best to set the wonderful virus of education loose across central Europe. That's fucking awesome. Anywho, the point is, as a Christmas present to this phenomenal person, would there be any way

for you to share some sort of your love with her? I.e. mention her name in a short little breath or send her an email. Oh, mentioned, mentioned. There's a very good chance you have a heart attack and suffers severe physical damage, but I think she will thank you and me for it I know you probably get these all the time and I really hope this wouldn't be classified as an idiot of the No, not at all. Thanks for all the joy and edumacation that you've brought into our lives

God bless you and all the other wonderful members of the suck. Hail them Rod, Kaitlyn. Why aren't you adorable Kaitlyn? Why aren't you a sweet person? Thank you very much. Much love for both of you and Oakley. Thank you so much for spreading the suck. I mean, that means a ton. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you for being curious. Thank you for being awesome. Thanks for enjoying what I do.

And thanks for spreading it to others. So, Hail Nimrod, yes, Oakley. Much appreciated. Time sucker, Devon Posey writes, and to let me know that I am not doing a good job of spreading the suck. Myself, at least not the secret suck, and he's right. Devon writes, hello, into let me know that I am not doing a good job of spreading the suck myself, at least not the secret suck. And he's right.

Devon writes, hello, grandmasters suck, spaceless or Devon here. Uh, I finally gave up on sending an audio message because it hates me. Just finished the Catherine I just wanted to say the way you kept saying, Catherine drove me fucking insane. My wife's name is Catherine and now I know I'm going to mispronounce it. Just kidding. I love you. You did a great job. Uh, I did want to say say we're 100 plus episodes in the time suck and you're still not advertising

the secret suck. How are we going to grow our ranks and take over the world if you don't tell people? Content is great, it's worth it. So please start promoting the secret suck. Thank you very, very thing you do. Hale Nimrod, I want to suck on those things to keep on suck. Thanks, Devin. Now I got to promote it more.

I set these little like goals in my head of like I can't promote it until I get this thing done. You know, this one thing is the message board. I wanted to wait until this message board were working on with the app that was done before before promoting it. I might do that earlier though. We're fixing a Patreon linkage kind of problem and putting the bit of extra guys on monthly retainers so they can constantly tweak and have upgrades and add some, you know, little tutorials to make it easier. And then I will start promoting the secrets up harder. And I may, I probably will start promoting it before we get the message board done because I may opt to kind of do with some premium upgrades to make that a little more competitive with some other stuff.

Just trying to do it all right. But yes, yes. I am very proud of the secret suck. And, you know, when you sign up to be a space, you can listen to it on via Patreon. And then Patreon has an RSS feed so you can listen to it via other third-party apps. So there's a variety of ways to partake of the secret suck once you become a space lizard. And yeah, so thanks.

I am very proud of it. We're having more and more fun doing that. I love hearing the messages from you guys. I'm really, really proud of what that other podcast has now become. You get it for five bucks a month. You get an extra episode a week and you get merch discounts and other stuff. You devote on topics, a lot of fun. Finally, time-sucker James Johns fulfills a wish I expressed way back in the Pablo Escobar

suck. And that's what I wished I knew a Jim John. He writes, Dan, I'm incredibly far behind. Just started listening to Time-sucker last week after remembering the Pandora ad I heard. I'm currently listening to the episode on Pablo Escobar and you just commented on the names and wishing you had had a Jim John. Well as much as I absolutely despise people assuming they can call me Jim, especially con from people who likely initially gave the name to the Jim or give the name of Jim to the biblical disciple.

Dumbfucks, you can't read my last name or think that maybe I don't know how to spell my own name. In this case, I will allow it. Love the show. I'll catch up soon. Sucking together, James, Jim, John. And then it's, you know, John, Zuh. But James, Jim, John. Yeah, actually, Jim, John,

you have a better name than Jim, John. You have three first names. Your first middle and last name are all first names. I love it. Your Jim, Ed, John, which to me sounds like some kind of like Paul Bunyan type, you know mythological character Once was a man who could fight like three Jim. John he wrote like a bear wait, I'm gonna start over I wrote I thought I was at Roar and hold on. I want to get this I worked on this. I want to get my Jim

I want to get my Jim Ed John um and take you there once was a man who could fight like three Jim, uh, John, he wrote a bear for a horse and his pipe was a tree Jim, uh, John, he hung out with his hands and he fished with his tongue, Jim, uh, John with arms like legs, he drinks beer from kegs, Jim, uh, John. How do you like that? How do you like that, Jimmie, John? Thanks for writing in, man. Thanks all of you for writing in. How do you like that? How do you like that, Jimmie, John? Thanks for writing in, man.

Thanks all of you for writing in. Thanks for writing in. Thanks for writing in. Thanks for writing in. Thanks for writing in. Thanks for writing in. Thanks for writing in. Thanks for writing in.

Thanks for writing in. Thanks for writing in. Thanks for writing in. Thanks for writing in. Thanks for writing in. Thanks for writing in. Thanks for writing in. Thanks for writing in. Thanks for writing in. Thanks for chicken costume. There's a lot of them were sold out. I was a little late, but it looks like it's all gonna show up in time.

I'm gonna have a pretty fun, you know, chicken jowl just blah, blah, blah, little costume. He didn't stop by this week. We'll be back. He'll be back. Keep those demons out of your Oh shit. Oh my god. We can open a portal to hell! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee