Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 128 - Serial Killer Pedro "Monster of the Andes" Lopez

Starting point is 00:00:00 It's hard to imagine a worse human being than Pedro Alonzo Lopez. It's hard to even think of him as being a human being. The monster of the Andes is one of the most prolific serial killers, child rapists and child murderers in history. The worst of the worst when he was captured for trying to lure a local street vendors young daughter away from her family and Ecuador in 1980. Local authorities suspected him for the murder of four other girls whose bodies they just recently uncovered.

Starting point is 00:00:27 Police were blown away when he confessed to not only those murders, but the murders of a total of 110 little girls in Ecuador alone. He'd also been busy in Peru and Colombia. The number was so outrageous, authority thought he was lying, but when Pedro led them to the bodies of 53 girls, they certainly believed him then. And the 110 victims may just be the tip of the iceberg. All in all, authorities suspect Pedro Lopez of killing over 350 girls between his native Columbia, Peru, and Ecuador in the mid to late 70s. After he was convicted of the murder of 57 girls in Ecuador in 1983,

Starting point is 00:01:03 he was given the maximum sentence allowed for any crime in that country 16 years in prison. Yeah, confessed to 110 murders, led police to 53 grave sites, found guilty in court of 57 murders, all the killings they'd recovered bodies for, and he was sentenced to only 16 years. And then he'd be released two years early for good behavior. And after his release, he would be immediately detained again, deported to Columbia and

Starting point is 00:01:29 imprisoned in a psychiatric hospital for additional crimes there only to again be set free after just a few years. This time set free for good. Pedro Alonzo Lopez's whereabouts have been unknown since 1998. He may still be alive. He may still be alive. He may still be killing. Columbia authorities have suspected him of additional murders since 2002. Who is this monster?

Starting point is 00:01:53 Why does he do what he does? How does someone become so cold, so vicious, how is he able to kill so many children before getting caught? Why was he ever allowed to be freed? And 16 years? That's it. What's the story behind Ecuador's criminal justice system? We traveled to South America today, revisit Columbia for the first time since we talked about Pablo Escobar.

Starting point is 00:02:13 Pablo and Pedro were born a year apart, actually, and both grew up in extreme poverty in Columbia. And both chose to exploit the broken criminal justice system of Columbia and northwestern South America in general in the 1960s and 1970s for their own selfish ends, but in very, very different ways. As bad as Pablo Escobar was and he was a very bad dude. Pedro was, in my opinion, so much worse. If I had to pick either him or Pedro to babysit my kids, I'm sure as hell going to go with Escobar. You can argue that Pablo at least tried to help the poor,

Starting point is 00:02:46 tried to help some people, even if he fueled a cocaine epidemic that led to countless deaths and destroyed lives. Pedro caused only pain. It's a bummer that Escobar never met Pedro Lopez in the 1970s. I'd like to think he would have had him tortured and killed. Pedro murdered little girls from the same impoverished neighborhoods Pablo at least tried to help in his own misguided ways.

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Starting point is 00:08:47 All right, a little bit of context to lay down before we dive into today's timeline. Not a lot today, but important to take a look at what life was like in Columbia, Ecuador and Peru. Pedro was killing grounds when Pedro was raping and murdering at an unprecedented rate. Hopefully he is not still doing that now. It is possible. Let's start by revisiting Leviolencia. You remember that from the Pablo Escobar Suck?

Starting point is 00:09:15 Been quite a while since that tale. So let's revisit it. Let's revisit the chaos that enveloped Northwestern South America around and after the birth of Pedro Lopez because of the violence, certainly affected the childhood of one of the world's worst serial killers, a great deal. The violence, yeah, was the Civil War in Colombia. The lasted from 1948.

Starting point is 00:09:35 The year Pedro Lopez was born to 1958, between the Colombian conservative party, the Colombian liberal party and various communist factions that began to appear in the jungles of Colombia in the mid 20th century. Communism, triple M and both jangles do not care for it. Praise both jangles. James Ingram may he rest in peace also doesn't care for it. Remember he was also a fighter of communism. I've actually gotten a few emails telling me I shouldn't be so harsh on communism.

Starting point is 00:10:02 I disagree. Communism, socialismisms, ugly big brother has never, ever worked for any length of time on a national level, like not ever. Despite the various evils of capitalism, capitalist nations have consistently provided a higher quality of life for the average person than communist nations. You keep forgetting that communism never, ever works. You keep forgetting humans need incentive to do their best You keep forgetting the comedy leaves a beauty power You keep forgetting

Starting point is 00:10:34 The wealth is never shared Never distributed by the state Who fucking does it Michael McDonald McDonald, communism, parody. Me kind of. That was all right. Yeah, that shit only works in theory. Why does communism consistently fail? It sounds great in theory, especially for the economically oppressed.

Starting point is 00:10:56 Right? Everybody works for the state and the state takes care of everybody. Hip, hip, hooray. Why can't the ultra rich share with the poor? Why can't things be more fair? Well, for starters, this governmental concept doesn't recognize certain basic human truths. We're competitive species.

Starting point is 00:11:10 Most of us anyway, many of us have ambition. And all men are not created equal. That's wasn't work with communism. That's not true, that notion of like, everybody should have this equal kind of situation. People aren't created equal. That's some childish bullshit. This sounded like a cool thing to say. Sounds fun. Oh, all men who created equal. No. Meet

Starting point is 00:11:28 sacks are not equal. I hate that type of thinking. It's not logical. LeBron James had a much better, uh, had much better odds. I'll be coming to professional athlete when he was born than I did. For example, I come from a gene pool of slow unathletic men with chronically bad backs and hips. I feel lucky that I made it to 40 without a limp or an addiction to pain mits. Does everyone run at the same speed? Nope. Jump equally.

Starting point is 00:11:51 Nope. Some people could train their whole lives, jump higher, and barely ever get off the ground. Someone else could the same heights could never work out, dunk a basketball in jeans. We're created very unequally, and equality doesn't end with physical attributes. Some people are smart than other people.

Starting point is 00:12:04 That's okay. Everyone has different talents. We should nourish whatever talents you know those may be. And almost everyone I've ever known works harder uses their natural talents more effectively if they're given incentive. You know, you think we have the same caliber of professional athletes that we do today if they were all paid exactly the same. Huck no. Steph Curry's, the LeBron James of the world are not going to be hiring the best nutritionists and trainers to continually improve their games You around some communist situation people like a lot of musk bill gates They're not gonna work as hard as they have to create the technology they they have created

Starting point is 00:12:34 If they were paid the same whether they work 40 hours or 80 hours, right? I sure as hell wouldn't spend the hours in this podcast that I do if there was zero financial incentive to do my best I would phone it the fuck in a lot of weeks. Right, if I got paid the same for stopping at 5 PM, instead of staying up till two or three or four a.m. sometimes, why, why? Why don't you be keep working? Or why would they work as hard or work with as much passion?

Starting point is 00:12:56 I don't know about you, but I live primarily on hope. Hope that if I work extra hard, I can improve my lot in life, do cool things to help others. Even when it doesn't happen, it's fun to dream about the possibility of it happening. Right? It's fun to think like, oh man, maybe someday I can buy this truck, maybe someday I can have this boat, or I can start this charity, or I can travel the world, do this or that. Because, you know, I was careful with my money, and I was able to save it in a capitalist system.

Starting point is 00:13:20 Communism, it takes that away. It removes hope. It's the fucking death of hope. And I'm done now. I know this is not an episode about communism. I just wanted to explain why I've shit on it so much in so many episodes. I am in favor of certain socialist elements by the way, like a basic level of free healthcare, free higher education for anyone who tests into college. And we do have, like I've said before, certain socialism or elements of socialism already in this country as much as some people don't like to think so. I'd love to see a mix of socialist and capitalist elements, you know, you know, continue to, I guess, progress in healthcare and higher education where you can have free tuition to state schools for citizens who qualify academically to get in,

Starting point is 00:13:58 keep higher education accessible to the poor and middle class, private colleges for those who can afford it sure have have at it Basic health care for citizens private doctors and hospitals for those who can afford that again sure have at it Uh, there has to be some way to work all that out now. I'm really done now. I'm really done for real Back to Columbia Civil War in Columbia began with the April 9th 1948 assassination of the popular politician Jorge Guy Guy Tan, a liberal party candidate for the election in November of 1949, and this kicked off the violence.

Starting point is 00:14:30 Colombia was caught in the middle of the Cold War between the United States and Russia at the time. A lot of speculation in both countries were tampering with this election. Russia wanted a communist friendly Colombian leader, the US wanted anything but a commie. Guy Tan's murder provoked rioting, lasted for hours and killed some 5,000 people. One of those 5,000 deaths would affect Pedro's childhood a great deal. Leviolencia has estimated to have cost

Starting point is 00:14:52 the lives of at least 200,000 people overall. Leviolencia took place between the paramilitary forces of the Columbia Liberal Party, the Columbia Conservative Party, which organized his armed self defense groups and its guerrilla military units, both also fought against the paramilitary forces of the Colombian Communist Party, the conflict caused millions to abandon their homes and property, a lack of public order and civil authority prevented victims from laying charges against perpetrators.

Starting point is 00:15:19 It was chaos. There was already pervasive poverty in Colombia Columbia and this just made things worse. Families were torn apart. The authorities weren't available to protect you. There was no stability. And it was this chaos and violence that Lopez was born into. Reminds me a little bit of Andre Cicatilo's origin. The butcher of Rostov, if you'll recall, was born in the wake of the Holodomor, you

Starting point is 00:15:41 creating for to kill by starvation. That Stalin created famine in Soviet Ukraine in 1932 and 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians, also known as the terror famine and famine genocide in Ukraine. Sometimes referred to as the great famine or the Ukrainian genocide, and Chikotilo was born in 1936 when starvation still occurred in the Ukraine in the wake of Holodomor. The poverty and violence of that disaster helped shape his childhood just like the LaVylencia helped shape Pedro Lopez's. And then the LaVylencia transitioned directly into what's been titled the Colombian conflict. The Colombian conflict began in the late 50s, really getting going in 1964, and it's been a never ending series of conflicts between

Starting point is 00:16:25 various Colombian governments, numerous paramilitary groups, crime syndicates, far left guerrilla fighters and groups such as the revolutionary forces of Colombia and the National Liberation Army. It continues in some form to this day with a little flare up here and a little gunfight there. 220,000 people died in this conflict between 1958 and 2013. Most of them civilians, over 177,000 civilians, and more than 5 million civilians were forced from their homes between 1985 and 2002 in the wake of these conflicts,

Starting point is 00:17:00 generating the world's second largest population of internally displaced persons. A lot of crazy shit's been going on in Columbia for a long time. A lot of why Pedro Lopez was able to get away with what he did is because of continual government instability. People were killed all the time in Columbia when Pedro was growing up. Life was cheap. Murders were routinely not investigated by a corrupt police force that were often in the pockets of some drug cartel or some paramilitary regime or, you know, following the orders of some corrupt leader. There has been a lot of fighting there for a long time, and of course, in times of war, who suffers the most?

Starting point is 00:17:37 The poor. Their lives are always valued the least, and things were similarly chaotic and nearby Peru and Ecuador. The other two nations, Pedro, would use his sick hunting grounds. There were bloody political battles, horrendous economic inequality, territorial disputes. The maximum sentencing law in Ecuador of only 16 years that Pedro would receive for his crimes was actually born out of this chaos, out of some political chaos. that law was passed specifically to keep presidents who've been put in jail due to political coups from being executed or permanently imprisoned on some trumped up charges handed out by the the new government in order to prevent

Starting point is 00:18:15 more politicians from being wrongfully thrown in prison forever or executed they got rid of capital punishment and reduced maximum sentencing. While much of Ecuador actually has been really or had really low murder rates for years now, the jungles of the border areas between Ecuador and Colombia where Pedro and Hunt and Ecuador and Peru has been fraught with violence and corruption for well over a century. The whole area is chaotic and chaotic and remains so to this day. A territorial dispute between Ecuador and Peru lasted from 1821 to 1998. Yeah, went up for 177 years, damn near two centuries. The longest running international arm conflict in the history of the Western Hemisphere.

Starting point is 00:18:58 When South American colonies gained independence from Spain, Peru didn't like how the map looked. Q over 175 years of battle. Hard to have effective law and order in an area when no one can even agree who the area belongs to. There are also a lot of different indigenous people living in Colombia, Ecuador and Peru, many different tribes. Pedro Lopez would target, you know, the children of these uh... these tribes specifically oftentimes

Starting point is 00:19:25 and uh... and these tribes have been allowed for the most part especially in the amazonian jungle or or up in the remote mountainous regions of the andes to basically govern themselves uh... in Ecuador where low peasant first be caught from murder almost a quarter of the population is indigenous divided among sixteen national uh... nationalities across the pacific coast the andes and the Amazon region. And the police, for the most part, just leave them alone.

Starting point is 00:19:48 They just let them handle their own law enforcement. It's crazy, right? They think that that's how parts of the world are still ran. My dad, my dad actually worked in Papua New Guinea on our remote construction site out in a remote, and I know this is South Pacific, this is not South America, but it just reminded me of how a

Starting point is 00:20:05 nation can just let indigenous people just govern themselves and how that happens to this day. He said that tribes there still handle things themselves. A member of tribe A would be killed by tribe B. Council would be held. Sometimes a retribution killing would take place. My dad worked as a construction supervisor, basically out in the jungle. Some of his employees were members of these tribes, and my dad, he actually almost got killed by one of them. He had to bounce off the island for a while, had to bounce out to

Starting point is 00:20:32 Australia. Oh, shit, cooled off for a while, because the local tribe member wanted him dead. They were looking for him. And knowing my hot head, dad, I feel like he probably brought that shit on himself. If you think I can be a hothead, oh boy, I'm, I'm a much diluted form of the original rage machine, Papa Cummins. Also working in favor of Pedro Nackit and Cot, especially when he abducted indigenous kids is a racist class system in many parts of South America, left over from Spanish colonialism. The governments of many of these nations historically just haven't been, uh, haven't given a shit about the lives of indigenous people.

Starting point is 00:21:06 Uh, the sex trafficking of indigenous people from these nations is still a major problem. Poor tribal youth leaving their mountain or jungle villages in search of a better life, uh, and search for some food for their bellies, stumble into Colombian, Peruvian and Ecuadorian cities with zero job skills, looking for jobs. They end up begging on the streets. Many fall into or are physically forced into prostitution, child prostitution. Life for them is brutal. And this all made things easier, remonstrate like Pedro to do what he did.

Starting point is 00:21:37 Easier to snatch a girl from an impoverished remote village that the police don't patrol or take a poor girl from a city center knowing the police won't investigate because there's no money in it for them. They have plenty of other problems to deal with already. Okay. Now I think I've given enough context. The stage has been set for the creation of a sociopathic monster. Let's get right into the life of Pedro Alonzo Lopez, monster of the Andes with today's time stock timeline right after a word from today's sponsor. Today's time stock timeline right after a word from today's sponsor. Today's time stock is brought to you by the political action committee shadow chikotilo for president in 2020. That's right.

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Starting point is 00:25:37 and then hammer them in to his piece of shit meat sack skin. Skin of the TimeSuck Pedro Lopez. Shrap on those boots soldier. We're marching down a time, some time line. Pedro Lanzo Lopez is born on October 8th, 1948 in Santa is a bell Columbia. Little mountain town of around 6,000 people today nestled up in the Andes and the Tulema Department, Columbia, little mountain town of around 6,000 people today nestled up in the Andes and the Tulema Department of Columbia,

Starting point is 00:26:08 departments in Columbia, like states in America or provinces in Canada. It's about 100 miles for 160 kilometers from the city of Medellin, home of Pablo's old Medellin drug cartel. I can't find any population stats for Santa Isabel from 1948, but based on how many less people were in the area overall back then compared

Starting point is 00:26:25 to now, I'm guessing several, around a thousand people when Pedro was born. Very small town. Pedro was the seventh of 13th children born to a Colombian prostitute who seems to have worked as a prostitute since she was a child herself. His father, McCartle Reyes, was a member of the Columbia Conservative Party and he was killed in the initial writing of Le Valencia. When Lopez's mother, Benilda Lopez de Castindia, who was not raised as wife, was just three months pregnant with Pedro. She'd later say in an interview regarding his father's death, I thought I was going to lose him from the shock, but I could feel him inside of me. He was of strong blood.

Starting point is 00:27:01 Now, this, of course, is the death i talked about earlier that affects peddler's childhood uh... since his dad was a a customer of his mom and not actually in a relationship with her there's a good chance peddler would have grown up without a father regardless however uh... with his dad you know of being killed before he's even born zero chance he's gonna have a father in his life uh... in columbia prostitution still legal

Starting point is 00:27:23 in certain areas and i know that because i googled his prostitution legal in Columbia, adding to the horror of my recent internet search history. And my search history has been very rough recently between all of my pedophile googling for last week's topic. And now again, this week, I have to be either on some sort of watch list, if I wasn't already, or I'm being more closely monitored. In just the last two weeks between the pedophile island suck and this pedralopus suck, I've Googled stuff like how many kids are sex trafficked in Columbia.

Starting point is 00:27:51 Can you cure pedophilia? Is it easy to get away with child prostitution in Columbia? Sex offenders can they get out of jail easily? Child prostitution in South America, how pervasive is it? Which countries have the sexiest kids? What is the best way to lure the sexiest kids? What is the best way to lure the sexiest kids into your van? Is it illegal to pay cash for a van, then cover your license plate and duct tape, then hang outside of a playground with handcuffs and chloroform

Starting point is 00:28:14 and clown suit? I'm kidding about those last searchers. That's self fucked up. No, but it feels like I'm probably on the same list as anyone who has made those searches. Anyway, prostitution is still legal in Colomb in certain zones, and is common due to widespread poverty. Technically, it's only legal in certain neighborhoods or zones, like I said, but an only indesignated brothels were sex workers are required to undergo regular STD checks, but that is, that's just what's on the books. In reality, it's widespread around the nation and in and out of these zones.

Starting point is 00:28:44 And child prostitution is so common that Columbia has become a popular destination spot for sex tourists looking for underage sex workers. Carol DeRoy, a spokesman for the UN Children's Fund, UNICEF, United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund, said many child prostitutes were as young as nine years old and that clients were often middle-aged foreigners fucking gross uh... he also said these children were often addicted to drugs but who knows if we can trust what uh

Starting point is 00:29:12 what you know Carol or Carl or you say his name says about anything since he does work for the UN so he's obviously an Illuminati puppet it is insane how many people actually believe the UN is actually part of the Illuminati just so you know if there's any random purvs listening to this suck, just because you're a U.S. citizen and you had to Colombia to have sex with someone on your age, you can still get in trouble with the U.S. You can still go to the United States prison. Many other nations have similar laws for their citizens.

Starting point is 00:29:38 Sadly not enough of these sick fucks who travel to other nations to have sex with exploited children or caught. International sex trafficking is a huge problem, but they do get caught from time to time So so leave kids everywhere alone dirty perps Sorry, you got dealt a bad bone or card, but if you can't control your urges cut your fucking dick off or throw yourself off a cliff The US justice department formed the child exploitation and obscenity section CES And 1987 to help protect children, both domestically and abroad.

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Starting point is 00:30:37 So anyway, we got young Lopez born to a prostitute. Dad was a customer who died in the violence here. The family was extremely impoverished. Despite all that, when he was a little tiny guy, Pedro seemed to be a good kid. Lopez's mother recalled young Pedro having dreams of being a teacher when he was a little fella, saying he liked to help the other children.

Starting point is 00:30:57 And with his notebook, he helped the other children learn their vowels. Well, becoming a teacher would never happen for Pedro. Not really. He would teach some kids some crimes later that we'll find out about in a bit. learn the revows. Well, becoming a teacher would never happen for Pedro. Not really. He would teach some kids some crimes later that we'll find out about in a bit. He'd teach some other kids how to die, and that was about it. Pedro hated what his mother did for work, not surprisingly.

Starting point is 00:31:15 He would later say, all the children slept on a big bed behind a drawn curtain while our mother did her business with men. Now without going into a big exploration of the moral implications of prostitution, some people think it's actually not always psychologically damaging or exploitive, many think it is, a lot of different sociological theories regarding it being either necessary or horrible.

Starting point is 00:31:36 I think we can all agree that hearing men pay your mother for sex and then use her like a piece of meat is probably less than ideal. Probably not as good as a stable home with firm boundaries and no early exposure to explicit sexuality. I doubt anyone on any side of the prostitution argument thinks Pedro's childhood exposure to prostitution was healthy. I mean, can you imagine some random dude having sex with your mom in the same room that you sleep in, only a curtain separating the sexual encounters

Starting point is 00:32:07 and your ability to see it, you would hear everything, you would probably smell everything. Ah, some childhood that would be. How weird when you hit puberty, right? Trying to sneak in some masturbation while simultaneously trying to drown out the sound of someone having sex with your mother. My God!

Starting point is 00:32:24 Oh, oh, oh, okay. You know what that music means? We heard a lot now when we start talking about prostitution. And bop, bop, bop, bop. And bop, bop. Constitutions, you know my contribution, trying to create a space that's safe for sexual distribution. But the kids in the same room is mama getting their Zoom, Zoom?

Starting point is 00:32:41 No, you got separated and consummate from the propagate when you conjugate and procurate You do you feel me you catch when I'm throwing down Kept a kid is way from them titties unless it's a moat the new beach Let's put them in a teddy unless you want the birds and the bees and teach you fly around for the wings even ready There was even residents Had this a hard time snapping out of that for a second. That was that was resident suck pimp Chicken Joe's way of saying, even a Pimp such as himself

Starting point is 00:33:08 thinks it's a terrible choice to make sexual business and parenting in the manner, you know, to mix them in the manner Pedro Lopez was exposed to it. And new listeners, chicken Joe first showed up and suck 101, the candy man episode of your curious. Okay. In addition. I've never, I've never like I got it a little little rhyming there and I wanted to say it for a while. I was having fun with that one.

Starting point is 00:33:31 Okay, in addition to his mother exposing the sexuality and early age, Pedro would also later say that his mother was a violent woman and that when he wasn't listening to her have sex, she was beating him. Just like with Ed Kemper, we have another killer with some mommy issues. His mother hearing Pedro's stories really get my zapples round up. Man, I can whisper and put her head on a stick. Ah, that's Ed Kemper. Pedro would later say that woman was violent. She would punish me with such violence.

Starting point is 00:34:02 Okay, when when Pedro was five and in 1954, his mother moved their family to nearby L. Espanyol, a little city also in the Telemah Department of Columbia that now has about 60,000 people known mostly for really good tamales and randomly for the manufacture of musical instruments like the Tambora, a drum. As far as I can tell, in Espanyol, they do not make air banjos, which brings us to our next sponsor, ha ha, cram in a lot in right now. Time suck has brought to you, once again, by Andrew Holes, internationally famous A-hole air banjo academy. The academy's North American factory in Corteil and Idaho is now giving tours so you can see

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Starting point is 00:36:12 I'm sorry, no, not. Okay, so no, Pedro Lopez is, I don't know why that pump showed up so much. That might happen again later in the show. I can't make any promises. It's not planned, but I'm feeling it my soul right now. Pedro Lopez's mother, she did not work on tamales or instruments in Espanyl.

Starting point is 00:36:29 She did continue to work as a prostitute. And for the record, it took everything inside of me to not make a skin flute joke right there. I wanted to say that she did kind of get into music polishing skin flutes, but I didn't, but I did just say it now. So I guess I kind of did. 1957, when Lopez is eight years old,

Starting point is 00:36:48 something that happened that caused him to leave home and have to fend for himself, exactly what happened is disputed. There was his version, there was this mother's version. Excuse me, according to his mother, eight year old, Lopez ran away from home one day and she searched desperately until nightfall. That night I cried and cried and I couldn't find him.

Starting point is 00:37:04 She said, adding that she turned to a fortune teller for help finding her boy. Has that ever worked by the way? Has a fortune teller ever helped anyone find a missing person even one time? One time has that happened. Very skeptical of fortune tellers. According to Lopez, his mom got him fondling

Starting point is 00:37:20 his younger sister's breasts and evicted him from the family home. He said, my mother threw me out when I was eight after she caught me touching my sister's breasts. She took me to the edge of town, but I found my way home again. The next day she took me on a bus and left me off more than 200 miles from home.

Starting point is 00:37:37 I was abandoned. Based on what he'd already witnessed in his childhood and who would become later, I don't doubt for a second that his mom caught him a less than sister. I'm guessing when you grow up in the household that he did sexual boundaries and norms of what is sexually acceptable,

Starting point is 00:37:52 gonna get a wee bit confusing. I mean, you're hearing your mom have sex nine after night, you know, you end up learning about what it is, far younger than is healthy. It has to be looked at as very casual. You're laying in a bed with numerous other siblings all impoverished, all I'm guessing uneducated, living in some poor ragged little

Starting point is 00:38:10 Columbia and mountain town in a country full of corruption, hard to get a good read in that environment. I want to okay. And what's not okay in general. And what if, you know, like we learned as possible last week, what if you're born predisposed to pedophilia? And then you start acting out, sexually when you're eight, that's not good. That's not good at all. You know, and then there's no support system around you. It doesn't bode well for your future. Whether he was banished or he ran away, Lopez made his way to Bogota, Columbia's capital city, big crowded city of about 10 million people in the metro area today, about 1.5 million people back when Pedro lived among other children who made up the lowest

Starting point is 00:38:45 rung at the social ladder in that city. Pedro started smoking Basuko, a form of low grade cocaine that probably isn't good for any kids mental development. I mean, my God. You know, he's already having a lot of trouble. He's on the streets of Boca. Now he's smoking Basuko. I found a right of about Boca Taz ongoing Basuko problem.

Starting point is 00:39:04 I didn't, I don't remember hearing about this in any previous sucks. I found it in a 1987 Chicago Tribune article titled Columbia has its own crack crisis. And this is the Bessuco problem. How was described? It is a potent toxic mixture of cocaine brick dust. Jesus. Cocaine brick dust, chalk, and even volcanic ash with residues of lead, sulfuric acid, ethyr, chloroform, caracene, or gasoline. My God, a drug addicts call it basucco because it is the crude extract or base from the cocoa leaf.

Starting point is 00:39:40 Like crack, sold in the United States, it is smokeable cocaine. Unlike crack, it's unrefined and unpurified, making it one of the most toxic drugs around. It is readily available on the street and is very cheap less than a dollar for enough to make one cigarette. If injected, it can cause sudden death. Wow, man, lower than crack.

Starting point is 00:39:59 That's saying something. When someone's like, hey man, you want to go smoke some crack? Wow, whoa, easy man, you want to go smoke some crack? Whoa, easy there high roller. I can't afford crack. I can't afford crack. You know, smoke the shit out of some basucco though. A basucco was legal. I wonder what the commercials would be like. Are you tired of the high price of crack? Tired of literally sucking deck for crack? Introducing Bosuco, less than a dollar or or high. With just the change you can find under your couch cushions, you can smoke some Basuko and melt your fucking face off.

Starting point is 00:40:31 And it's kind of safe. Basuko is nearly as safe as bath salts and not quite as safe as Huffing gasoline. Basuko, when you're tired of hearing Basuko my crack. Let me sound like that. A Dr. Camillo Uribe Gonzalez, former scientific director of VogueTos Clinic of Toxicology, described how brutal Basuco is saying, it's the most grave drug problem in the world.

Starting point is 00:40:52 Crack is like chewing gum by comparison, because crack has the effect of pure cocaine with no residual effect. Basuco has a little cocaine and a lot of toxic substances. And that's what Pedro Lopez was smoking when he should have been a third grader. Speaking about Bogotá's street kid epidemic, Colombian criminal psychologist Alexandra de la Torah, Yermio, would later say, most of the kids left their house because they were abused, the only place they could end up with on the streets because they had no other options.

Starting point is 00:41:22 Like other street kids, Lopez, stole clothing, and food from dumpsters. Joined a gang of other gamines, a name given to the throwaway kids who lived on the streets of Bogota, to have protection during the night as they slept, he learned how to fight with knives and belts for territory, food, and shelter.

Starting point is 00:41:39 My God, smoking a busuco, and then fighting with belts and knives, when he's like eight nine years old. When I was at third grade, I was still getting teary eyed if someone said I ran funny at recess, which I did. I had a funny gate. My legs kicked out weird to the sides. I didn't know how to handle Mike Damon, sometimes kicking me in the shins. I really wanted him to stop was my best and only defense. Just stop it, please. These comedians would have eaten me alive. They still exist in Bogota today. I found picture of these kids on the streets and slums they lived in in a 1979 article written by a woman working for the Irish Women's Political Association. Here's

Starting point is 00:42:16 what Catherine O'Reilly had to say about the comedians in 1979. She said, in Bogota, one sees the sickening contrast of the ultimate and opulence next door to the most desperate poverty. I speak of the slum dwellings and the slopes of the Andes restoration, which sprawl down the hill signs overlooking the city's northern shopping center. These dwellings are made from stolen bricks, cardboard, sheets of plastic, pieces of wood, and disused petrol drums, anything that substitutes for four walls. At any moment, the bulldozer can come, sent at a whim by a local landowner or government official.

Starting point is 00:42:49 When the rains come, they are more often than not washed away. The children, as young as six years old, are sent out to the streets by their mother or father or whatever, where they compete with the vultures in their daily quest for food among the city's refuse bins. Ill clad in their torn shirts and pants, often with no shoes, sometimes straw slippers, they form packs, sleeping on quiet streets and doorways in local parks and under bridges. It is a well known fact they can strip a car down

Starting point is 00:43:13 to the chastis in five minutes flat. They are fast on their feet, so fast the police seldom catch them. More often than not, the police turn a blind eye. Girls of 13 become prostitutes, their faces reflecting the hopelessness of their lives. Even children earning a pound per week down the treacherous coal mines are considered lucky by comparison. To walk on the streets of Bogota,

Starting point is 00:43:34 wearing even a wristwatch is not just hazardous, it's crazy. The commens would pull it off your arm and if it didn't come, your wrist would be at stake. The same fate applies to handbags or any kind of jewelry. Things were by all accounts I came across even worse for the communes back in the 60s. Pedro's affiliation with one of these gangs wouldn't be able to protect him from a violent sexual assault shortly after he arrived in Bogota when he was begging for money on the street. An older man seemingly took pity on him and offered him warm meals and a warm place to stay.

Starting point is 00:44:06 Pedro went with a man who didn't take him to a home, but instead took him to an abandoned building where he repeatedly satamized and tortured young Pedro until he'd satisfied whatever dark urges possessing to do that and then just tossed him back onto the street. Years later, Pedro would speak of this incident, saying, there I was found by a man who took me into an abandoned building

Starting point is 00:44:26 and raped me over and over again. I decided then to do the same to as many young girls as possible. Being a child, I lost my innocence, I have always wanted to punish those responsible. That's a fucking weird statement to make. I always find that like when these monsters are trying to rationalize their terrible behavior, they don't do a very logical job. What they say might somehow make sense to them, but it makes no sense to anyone else

Starting point is 00:44:48 on any kind of logic level. Like, let me get this straight. An older man raped you. So you want to punish those responsible, which would be, if it was going to be anybody, older pedophilic men, but then you decide to rape little girls. Like, how does that pay the old men back?

Starting point is 00:45:04 Did some little girls hire the old man to rape you? Like he was clearly just using what happened to him as excuse to rationalize the shit he had done when he was interviewed to give that statement, which I'm guessing he always probably wanted to do and wanted to do before that old man did that because that's why he was kicked out of his house in the first place.

Starting point is 00:45:22 Probably probably easier to do these kind of heinous acts, I guess, if you're able to rationalize it as some fucking bent form of justified revenge. In late 1960, when Lopez turned 12, four years after living on the street to Columbia, an older American couple took him in, gave him a room, food, and a chance to attend local school for orphans, which should have been the start of a new life, just turned into more the same. Lopez was sexually assaulted again, this time by a teacher at the school, the couple sent Pedro to, who had a thank for young boys.

Starting point is 00:45:49 Unwilling to endure any more sexual torture at the hands of his elders, Lopez stole enough money from the school to fund and escape and made it back to the streets of Bogota. I should add that these tales of early childhood rape come only from Pedro's later confessions. So we're trusting him to be honest about these encounters. Based on what he confessed to later, I don't think he was lying.

Starting point is 00:46:11 He doesn't seem to be that guy. I am guessing this second rape further motivated him to hurt more young girls, right? That's the second old man who hurts me. I will have my revenge. Girls will pay. What? Don't you mean men? The men will pay, right? No, don't you see?

Starting point is 00:46:26 It's the girls who are behind it all girls hire the men to hurt the boys. It's always been that way. It's so obvious when you smoke the basucco I wonder if his anger towards girls stem from that early incident of molesting a sister That's what I think. Maybe he felt that he hadn't gotten caught. He wouldn't have had to offend for himself on the streets Maybe he blamed her for that in some way, you know, rationalized his, all his behavior as being a citrus fault somehow. In early 1961, 12 year old Lopez returns home, two bogatah, he's been fending for himself since he was eight, hadn't gone to school for any length of time since he was eight, didn't have any job skills, still not even a teenager.

Starting point is 00:47:02 His brains fucked up from basucco. And since Columbia's welfare system doesn't provide resources that are really readily accessible to young people, he returns to begging for food, soon establishes a reputation then as one of the most talented car thieves in the city. If you're keeping track now, this guy spent his first eight years sleeping in crowded beds in poor little Colombian towns, listening to his mom have sex with random customers, started molesting one of his sisters. Now he's been sold out in the town, so listen to his mom, sex with random customers, start him less than one of his sisters. Now he's living on the streets of Bogota,

Starting point is 00:47:27 where he's been soldimized by two different men, hard childhood, man, hard to, he doesn't excuse anything he would later do because plenty of other kids who had similar childhoods didn't go on to do what he did, but still, man, rough life. I think the reason there is far, oh, sorry, I think there is far more interest uh... oh sorry i i think

Starting point is 00:47:45 there is far more interest excuse me can rebound notes far more interested in an emerta like a bundy then there is a monster like low-peas because you know like with bundy or but with donmer uh... as well they had pretty normal childhoods no crazy abuse no extreme poverty you know they were molested or rapes uh... even gary you know green river killer richway had a normal childhood by comparison.

Starting point is 00:48:06 Sure, Mama Ridgeway probably got a little carried away with cleaning that bed wetter's wing, making sure you had a real clean wing, but way less tragic of a childhood in Lopez. Like you read Lopez's story, and while it doesn't excuse anything he do, it just makes his crimes more understandable in a way. Like I think the fast nature of like a Bundy is like,

Starting point is 00:48:24 why would someone who had a seemingly fairly normal childhood, just fucking snap so hard and become so twisted? I think it's harder to process mentally, but you read Lopez's story like, well, okay, yeah. I mean, don't agree with anything he did, but Jesus. Surprise more people than become monsters who grew up like him. Just, you know, the environment he grew up

Starting point is 00:48:43 and just consistently placed no real value on human life or the innocence of children. For the next six years, Lopez would continue to steal cars and scrape a living off the street. If you rape or kill anyone during this period, we don't know about it. Pedro was paid well by the local shop shops. He was finally able to live out his dream

Starting point is 00:48:59 of being a teacher of some sort, teaching other kids how to steal cars, which I'm sure actually did help them go hungry. Sadly, teaching other kids to steal cars, which I'm sure actually did help them go hungry. Sadly teaching other kids to steal cars is probably the most noble thing Pedro ever did in his life. That's how you know you've led a really dark life. When someone says, did you ever do anything good?

Starting point is 00:49:17 Yes, I teach kids to steal cars. I help children, learn how to not be caught by police officers. I use sort of gimme a mentor for time. A sort of street of Bogotá camp counselor, he to Carthage is just the right amount of basucco. Eventually Lopez got comforts in cars in 1967 at the age of 18. He's arrested, sentenced to two years in prison, and he's immediately raped again. Two days into his sentence, Lopez was gang raped by several other older inmates. Third time this guy has been raped now. This time by multiple assailants.

Starting point is 00:49:49 And these rapes would lead to his first known murders. And the only murders where the victims were not little girls. Pedro knew if he didn't retaliate that more rapes would inevitably follow. So he took revenge on two of those who were the most brutal, killing them on the weeks that followed with a makeshift knife he'd made made an axe that were, uh, you know, deemed or he'd made for for acts that were mostly deemed self defense. Asked about it later, he said, I don't deny that I killed two in there, but the warden said, don't worry about it. Uh, but the more the warden must have cared a little bit because he did get two years added to his sentence. I guess

Starting point is 00:50:18 one for each of these killings. Uh, he swore he would never again be seen as a victim. By this point, it feels like he's just pretty much destined to become a madman. 1971, 22 year old Lopez is released from prison. He's already a monster. He's no longer just some carthee. He's the monster of the Andes. He caved into the rage he felt from being abandoned by his mother and from being sexually assaulted numerous times.

Starting point is 00:50:43 And he allowed that rage combined with whatever twisted sexual attraction he had towards young girls to transform into an unprecedented kind of rapist pedophile killing monster. He blamed his mother for most of his problems. If she hadn't kicked him out, you know, he he wouldn't have been raped. If she hadn't been a prostitute, he wouldn't have been sexualized so young. If she hadn't been abusive, he wouldn't feel so much rage inside. According to former FBI profiled a Robert wrestler, serial killers very often have obsessions of some kind with their mothers. A love-hate relationship and popular language.

Starting point is 00:51:13 These moms usually aren't candidates for mother of the year, although they aren't necessarily abusive either. The common thread seems to be the sexual element, mothers who are very seductive, who had many sex partners at which the sun was aware. Of course, the children of prostitutes are more likely to be exposed to this type of behavior. So yes, so just numerous early childhood

Starting point is 00:51:34 environmental situations gave this guy much higher odds to become what he was going to become than the average person. Sometime in 1971, 1972 Lopez set off on his sick quest just to kill as many kids as he could. He never stated that that was his kind of like mission statement explicitly, but it appears that's exactly what he did. He clearly had to have been fantasized about sexual violence with children for a while,

Starting point is 00:51:55 he was in prison for whatever reason, because when he got out, he got right to it. Like we learned last week in the pedophile island suck, we don't know exactly why people are attracted to what they're attracted to, but Lopez was admittedly attracted to little girls. One time when I asked why little girls, he said something to the effect of why eat old chicken when you can eat young chicken. I mean, dude, it's just fucking beyond messed up. He wanted to kill him. He wanted to rape him.

Starting point is 00:52:22 He wanted to control them and decide their fate. Going forward, Pedro now based his life around access to little girls in a way unlike any of the other killers we've covered. Almost. It's somewhat similar to Richard Ramirez, but his modus operandi would become remarkably consistent. Same exact type of victim, always a young girl,

Starting point is 00:52:39 always kidnapping, rape and strangulation. He made no attempt to lead a double life. He had no desire for a normal life, quote unquote, like many of the serial killers we've discovered, or we've covered already, you know, like he wasn't a good dad when he wasn't killing women and children like BTK. Didn't have a family at home that he provided for like Chicatilo. Didn't have a relationship with his mother, like Ed Kemper or Alexander Pachusko. Wasn't trying to publicly be seen as a good dude, Ted Bundy didn't have non killing career aspirations like Charles Manson who wanted to be a musician or John Wayne Gacy who wanted to be a big wig in this community

Starting point is 00:53:10 Wasn't blatantly mentally ill like Jeffrey Dahmer, you know, wanting to build that skull altar and have a sex zombies or or Ed Geen with his nipple belts and skin suits Lopez just wanted to kill lots and lots of little girls. Yeah, reminiscent of Richard Ramirez, the night stocker, you know, just just living on pure evil id. Weird loner. Ramirez just wanted to kind of eat candy, steal, rape, and kill,

Starting point is 00:53:34 and I guess Lopez wanted to rape kill and just smoke Pasuco. Loop has knew he could steal and hustle to keep food in his belly. He didn't need a job to ride it for a stable life because he didn't care about getting married or starting a family, didn't care about having friends. So 1971 or 72, he sets out for Peru. The country he thought he would have the best chance

Starting point is 00:53:50 of getting away with his crimes in. Pedro later admitted that during the next few years, he spent in Peru. He stalked and murdered anywhere from tens to over 100 young girls from various native tribes and city centers across the region. He confessed to different numbers, to different people. He also confessed to targeting young indigenous girls because they were the easiest to lead away from their parents. In addition to the indigenous girls, he also chose to punish the poorest of kids,

Starting point is 00:54:13 other victims of the streets, other street kids, just like he was, kids who worked in open-air markets by themselves with their gangs or with their parents. He'd later say, I went after my victims by walking among the markets, searching for a girl with a certain look on her face, a look of innocence and beauty.

Starting point is 00:54:30 She would be a good girl, working with her mother. I followed them sometimes for two or three days, waiting for when she was left alone. I would give her a trinket like a hand mirror, then take her to the edge of town where I would promise a trinket for her mother. This trick was effective, especially since poor, hungry children would be easily lured by gifts in the promise of more.

Starting point is 00:54:50 He would show himself by helping so the children would trust him. A criminal psychologist, Dr. Darrymio would later say, Dr. who would later study him. This doctor would also say then he would take them somewhere where if they would scream, they would not be heard. He would repeat that pattern over and over and over again. The parents of the girls he took usually between the ages of eight and twelve often had no idea what was going to happen to them. Some of their their bodies have never been found took took years for other bodies to be found. They just vanished. I told her to go sell some things to buy a bus ticket to come home said Mara in day, the mother

Starting point is 00:55:19 of one missing girl who never made a home. Other parents believe their beloved girls have been kidnapped into the sex trade, which actually sadly would have been a better fate. Desperate parents ran advertisements and local newspapers, often offering rewards for information on their missing girls. The ads never turned up anything helpful. Pedro Lopez was very, very good at being very, very bad. It wasn't until after countless women and young girls had been murdered that now 29 year old Lopez was caught in 1978 by a tribe of Ayakucho, Indians, as he attempted to kidnap a nine year old tribal girl. The tribe members stripped him and tortured him for hours.

Starting point is 00:55:57 Some reports say they beat him. Others say they actually flayed some of his skin off. All reports say they buried him up to his neck in the ground and poured syrup on his head so that giant South American ants would sting and eat him alive. A punishment they deemed suitable for his crime. This is a punishment of these guys who actually carry on people. In the mountains of Peru, the Ombrae Asino ants, grow up to three inches in length, have mandibles that allow them to gnaw their way through actual human bone.

Starting point is 00:56:24 They usually have no interest in eating humans. They prefer sugar who doesn't love sugar, but they will eat flesh if it's easily accessible to them. The bodies of wild boars, spider monkeys, the occasional human have been found, found stripped to their bones in the jungle. The ombre aceno ants are venomous and with enough bites, they can paralyze you. And with enough bites, they can paralyze you. I'd like to go out that way. Man, hundreds of giant aggressive ants just walk around your face, walking into your mouth, your screaming, eating their way into your head through the soft tissue of your ear canal. Some of you Southwestern American suckers probably already know about these critters. There were some articles just last week about ombre and seno ants showing up in Southwest

Starting point is 00:57:03 Texas and in Arizona. Six months ago, an elderly woman was found eating alive. Jesus, eating alive in her nursing home in a room in a Brownsville, Texas nursing home. My God, the ants had completely eaten her entire fucking head off. Not a trace remaining, just a torso and a rocking chair. Entomologist originally thought she might have been killed by a team of Roanoke recluse spiders, but then they realized that she was actually fake killed

Starting point is 00:57:31 by a new fake creature. I just made up in this fake ant, fake attack story to give you more real nightmares. There's no such thing as Ombres, see no ants. I know I got some of you. I know that your skin's crawling right now. Gotta hope some of you were starting to worry about little ants. Is this eating or waiting to your fed?

Starting point is 00:57:48 Anywho. I had Kucho Indians really did bury Pedro Lopez up to his neck, poor syrup on him, and they actually did intend to have an ant of some kind. Eventually sting him to death or at least torture him for a while until they decided to finish him off themselves or let him die of dehydration or exposure or whatever. Unfortunately, his plan was interrupted. Lopez would have perished there and many other young South American girls would have never died, but a female missionary convinced the tribe to turn Lopez into the police rather than go ahead with their planned lynching. And then unfortunately, the police chose not to believe the Iacucho witnesses and they let

Starting point is 00:58:23 Pedro go. Deported him to nearby Columbia. Rather than staying Columbia, he just bounced over to Ecuador, where he again thought it would be easier to get away with murder. Once he made it to Ecuador, Lopez started killing as many as three girls a week. Sometimes bouncing back into Ecuador, Colombia, just kind of popping back over to the border in the jungle to take a few additional victims. For Lopez, watching his young victims die after he violated them was sexually more pleasurable than the physical

Starting point is 00:58:47 release of raping them. He talked about this later in a prison interview incredibly casually, like you're talking about his favorite memory of playing football or something. I said, there is a wonderful moment, a divine moment when I have that this guy is so fucked up. It's unbelievable. He says, there's a wonderful moment, a divine moment. When I have, this guy is so fucked up, it's unbelievable. He says, there's a wonderful moment, a divine moment. When I have my hands around a young girl's throat, I look into her eyes, I see a certain light, a spark suddenly go out. Only those who kill know what I mean. The moment of death is enthralling and exciting. Just smiling as he says that, man, just truly did not give a single fuck about taking human life.

Starting point is 00:59:26 It meant nothing to him. Never spoke of feelings of remorse or guilt about any of the killings just talked about how much he loved it. Just, you know, openly admitted he truly enjoyed it. Complete sociopath, zero empathy, got 14 years, right? I'll talk about that later. My god. Some criminals psychologists who have studied Lopez speculate that since he felt, never felt a sense of power as a child due to repeated violations from authority figures

Starting point is 00:59:49 that he killed his victims in order to take some control back in his life. He was no longer the victim, no longer the prey. He was the predator. He would decide who felt pain now, right? He no longer took pain and inflicted it. Some also think he was symbolically killing his mother over and over again, violently erasing one woman after another from the world, girls who would never get to grow up and be the mother he had. Colombian criminal psychiatrist, Dr. Maria Helena Trujillo, set of Lopez, one of the reasons he said he killed them was because they were poor. Maybe he tried to stamp out the weakness.

Starting point is 01:00:19 This allowed him to feel stronger, bigger. There was a moment for him to be big. Man, echoes of Chica Tilo there. Lope has relished killing his victims so that he would so much, he would wait until daylight to choke them to death, even if he had kidnapped them in the evening the night before, because he wanted to watch the life leave their bodies. It's like he's a fucking caricature of evil. He'd also force them to endure a night of terror before they died that morning. He later said, at sign of first light, I would get excited.

Starting point is 01:00:47 I forced the girl into sex and put my hands around her throat. When the sun rose, I would strangle her. It was only good if I could see her eyes. I never killed anyone at night. It would have been wasted in the dark. The composure that people at the prison had to have had to not just in a moment of weakness, pull out a gun, mid quote like that, and just shoot his fucking dick off and just let him die in some prison cell.

Starting point is 01:01:11 While death was usually quick, some girls didn't immediately die and he was forced to continue strangling them after they regained consciousness. It took them between five and 50 minutes to die he had it. Sometimes I had to kill them all over again. They never screamed because they didn't expect anything would happen. They were innocent. He lived for these kills. He was like a dude obsessed with hunting,

Starting point is 01:01:29 but he hunted kids and he wasn't done with them when they were dead either. After he killed his victims, Lopez would play with their bodies, but not sexually, not usually anyway. He would play with them like a kid plays with dolls. He'd host imaginary tea parties sitting in a single mask grave with several bodies of his young victims propped up around him

Starting point is 01:01:46 He'd hold pretend conversations with them saying my little friends like to have company So maybe he's a little bit crazy like Edgene I Often put three or four girls in a single hole and talk to them It was like having a party but after a while because they couldn't move. I got bored and went looking for new girls having a party, but after a while because they couldn't move, I got bored and went looking for new girls. Dear God, man, this guy, this guy Ed Camper and Ed Gain would have had the most evil fucked up social club in history.

Starting point is 01:02:11 Excuse me, just Pedro Lopez talking to the dead bodies, Ed Gain wearing their skin, Ed Gain Per and his zapples doing all kinds of horrible stuff with their heads. Police did notice missing persons reports were piling up, but like many broken-hearted parents, they believed the young girls had been the victims of sex trafficking and they failed to investigate the disappearances. Sadly, girls disappeared from villages and families homes all the time. One victim was selling newspapers when she encountered Lopez. He lured her away from the market, raped or strangled her, covered her with newspapers

Starting point is 01:02:42 to hide from past her buy. Sometime in 1979, Lopez snatched the daughter of a prominent baker and Ecuador, which did draw some attention not only to her abduction, but to the other missing girls as well, but not enough to lead any investigators to Lopez. Eventually, the baker's daughter's body was found severely decomposed in an abandoned farmhouse on the outskirts of town. It wasn't until April of 1980, when a flash flood in Embatto, Ecuador unearthed the remains of four missing girls that police began to consider that something extra sinister was going

Starting point is 01:03:14 on closer to home. While the bodies were so decomposed, it was impossible to determine their exact causes of death. It was clear that the young girls' bodies had been buried in order to hide evidence of foul play. Then a few days after the flood, a woman named Carvina, Poreveda saw a strange man attempt to kidnap her 12-year-old daughter Marie while she and her daughter were at a local market. She screamed, causing shoppers to surround Lopez and pin him to the ground before he could flee with this girl. Lopez was rescued by police officers and arrested while proclaiming that he

Starting point is 01:03:44 was a good person. And then he had a clean heart. Don't arrest me. I have a clean heart. While in detention, Lopez was subjected to a standard interrogation until he told the policeman that he was not Ecuadorian but a Colombian drifter. A police lieutenant then beat him and accused him of being part of a gang of ducting girls from Ambatto. The officer threatened to kill him if he didn't confess, but Lopez remains silent. I love this. I love that they won't give my sentence of more than 16 years, but they will possibly beat them to death during interrogation.

Starting point is 01:04:12 And then a man named Captain Pastor Cordava Guadino was able to gain Lopez's trust. Sources seem to be split as far as how there's two different versions of this story. Some sources say that Captain Cordova entered the room the room, told other policemen to leave, deciding to interrogate the suspect himself with a more friendly approach that he then offered Lopez food and cigarettes, asked him about his health and feelings before requesting information about the gang of abductors, Lopez shrugs that he knew nothing about the gang. When the captain told him there was a, that he was under a lot of pressure from the families of the missing girls to find whoever abducted them. Lopez told him that he did know where one little

Starting point is 01:04:47 girl's body was in a cabin outside the town. The police went to the cabin found the new dead body of Ivananova, Yakome, line on an old mattress, a local missing girl. After finding this girl, Kodoba asked Lopez how many other girls maybe out there, Lopez looked upwards and said over 200 in Ecuador, some tens in Peru, and many more in Colombia. And then supposedly the president of Ecuador was informed and he ordered that Lopez should be taken to the places where he left the bodies until all the victims in Ecuador had been recovered.

Starting point is 01:05:15 That's one story. Another, maybe a little more popular and definitely I think kind of cooler story about how Captain Guadino got him to confess is that Captain Guadino went undercover as a fellow inmate and shared a cell with Lopez for about a month. Gaining Lopez's trust, Guadino was able to get a confession as well as details about the sites where victims were buried. Each story Lopez would tell Guadino would be more gruesome than the last, each revealing

Starting point is 01:05:40 bone-chilling acts of inhuman degradation. And eventually the seasoned officer could no longer, you know, just, uh, stand it and just blew his own cover. He just couldn't take any more stories. Uh, he also apparently got tired of worrying that Pedro was going to strangle him in his sleep like Pedro had strangled those young girls or maybe stab him with a shiv like he'd stabbed those inmates who had raped him years earlier. Uh, Gudino again, yes, stayed.

Starting point is 01:06:02 It was Pedro Lopez and that's self for about a month for free himself by the time you revealed himself petro had gleefully informed the undercover officer that he'd been traveling to echo door peru and columbia uh... for the past several years and by his own count had raped and killed over three hundred young girls uh... petro Lopez or as he came to be known the monster of the andies uh... proclaim proudly that he had raped a murder over one hundred and ten young girls in echo door

Starting point is 01:06:23 at least a hundred peru and put many more than a hundred, quote unquote, in Colombia, in the ground going on to state that he only really enjoyed killing the girls in Ecuador, claiming their trusty nature made them more appealing, as opposed to the strange, wary little girls in Colombian Peru in his own worlds, in his own words, I like the girls in Ecuador. They are more gentle and trusting, more innocent. They are not suspicious of strangers like Colombian girls. And then Lopez relished the media attention

Starting point is 01:06:51 that came with his confessions. He started to talk to reporters about his own childhood, about the many ways society had failed him. So, he was playing that blame game, reference to zone tragic past, just, you know, coldly declared, you know, the conditions that had created him. At one point, he specifically pinpointed the conditions that had created him. At one point,

Starting point is 01:07:05 he specifically pinpointed the moment he had decided to become a serial killer saying, I lost my innocence at age eight. So I decided to do the same thing to as many young girls as I could. Okay, doesn't really fit in with what he was saying about want revenge on the men who attacked him earlier. Maybe this particular excuse is the truth, right? Maybe this is the reason he killed those girls. He lost his innocence when he was eight, and it didn't feel fair for others to keep theirs. I don't know. It sounds like bullshit to me though,

Starting point is 01:07:30 because he wasn't like killing like boys. I think he just wanted to somehow sound like he had a reason for his horrific obsession just to rape and kill young girls. Pedro used all of his murders to go on on sort of an extended field trip with authorities. Pedro used all of his murders to go on sort of an extended field trip with authorities. He offered to take the amount to the grave sites to prove the truth of his claims. Initially, they were hesitant, but local police, this is the, you know, the second version of the story. Initially, they were hesitant, but

Starting point is 01:07:57 the local police decided to allow Lopez to guide them to the grave sites to provide families with closure. And then over the span of six weeks, Lopez led the police across 11 Ecuadorian provinces at each revealing yet another gruesome collection of bodies for his own safety. The police required Lopez to dress as a police officer when he accompanied them to the grave sites. There was a guard placed on other side of him, both for his protection and to thwart any attempt at escape. First grave site was just on the border of Embato. He described the girl as a newt that newspaper seller we talked earlier. He told them he buried her under a specific bridge to their surprise. The police found a complete skeleton as described at the base

Starting point is 01:08:33 of the bridge. The medical examiner was unable to determine any specifics of the crime from the body other than a corroded arm and leg evidence of torture. He didn't flick it on the young child. I never said exactly what he did. However, the police soon gained the clarity they sought after one of the victims' family members was brought to the site. They recognized the clothes, hanging off the bones of the skeleton, confirmed what Lopez had told them. The bones belonged to a young girl that he mentioned.

Starting point is 01:08:59 And Lopez's claims were shockingly accurate. And so they trusted him to lead them to more and more bodies, which he did roughly two months after Otenzia. This girl Lopez chose the wrong victim. Oh, yeah, when he was actually in his, in his, oh, wait, sorry, I think that was some kind of, some, some leftover notes there. Pedro's, Pedro Lopez is, Pedro Lopez is tripped on memory lane with lead investigators to over 53 grave sites at each grave site. Lopez would display the exact same amount of amusement and satisfaction as if each grave marked a victory in his name, his pride was sickening, and yet the police had little choice but to follow him around and encourage him to take them to the next site. They desperately needed the information

Starting point is 01:09:36 that only Lopez himself could give them so they continued to supply him with cigarettes and alcohol and exchange for more information. Lopez began to develop a friendship with the captain he initially confessed to. He began to refer to the captain as father. Finally when the police began to realize that Lopez was now only leading them to older, compromised gravesites, and then it would be harder and harder to identify any actual victims. They decided to bring him back to police headquarters where he was charged with 57 counts of murder. 53 from the gravesites. He had led them to and then the four corpses discovered in those

Starting point is 01:10:07 floods we mentioned earlier. It was Lopez's own detailed confession that would lead him to being charged with 110 murders. Victor Lascano at the time, the head of the Ambatou Jail told reporters that in his personal opinion, the tally of 300 girls, the Lopez claimed to have murdered was likely a low estimate. I know these numbers kind of bounce around a bit because he have murdered was likely a low estimate. And I know these numbers kind of bounced around a lot because he would say different things of different people. So they're they hover around the same area, sometimes 300, sometimes 350. Pedro Lopez only confessed to over, Pedro Lopez openly confessed over 300 murders,

Starting point is 01:10:39 calling himself worse than an animal. And yet he showed no sign of regret in his actions or words. His voice was calm, steady, and unemotional. Why did he confess to so many murders that police had no evidence for? Was it just for the notoriety? I don't think so. Despite very little formal education and smoking, all that basucco, Pedro is not an idiot. He knew how Ecuador's justice system worked and he knew how to manipulate it. Ecuador had and still has some interesting sentencing laws, as we talked about earlier.

Starting point is 01:11:07 No matter the nature or number of murders, the maximum conviction when Pedro was caught was 16 years. It didn't matter if he killed five people or 516 years, the longest sentence the court could hand down to you. By confessing to all of his crimes after his initial arrest, even once the police had no evidence for, Lopez was ensuring that he couldn't be tried again for future murders and Ecuador. He wanted to avoid double jeopardy. If he didn't confess to everything, then when he was released after the initial 16 years,

Starting point is 01:11:35 he could be re-arrested and thrown back for 16 more years for another murder. He was just making sure he could avoid that possibility. And then there's, you know, there's not much too Pedro's story for the next 14 years. For the next 14 years, he's just in an Ecuadorian prison. Some say he was placed in solitary for the entire duration of his stay behind bars. Some say he was not 14 years after his sentencing on August 31, 1994. He set free. His behavior in jail had been so exemplary that the monster of the Andes had his sentence reduced by two years for good behavior.

Starting point is 01:12:10 A news crew recorded him leaving the prison. Man, if you were a member of that crew, would you follow him? Would you be tempted to pull the Dexter and just snuff him the fuck out? Would you at least think about doing that? I wonder how many years somebody would have gotten for killing him. Uh, well, no one did. Lopez was given a bottle of water, some new shoes, a shirt and pants, a small amount of pesos, and a package of food, and then he was just set loose. He was still only 45 years old. Still very physically healthy. A man with a lot of experience killing kids, no social ties to the outside world. Uh, luckily, Ecuadorian authorities did detain him about an hour after his

Starting point is 01:12:44 release. He discovered, uh, our Lopez discovered that the superintendent of the province had ordered him back in a custody claiming that he was now in a legal immigrant, which is pretty funny to me. Uh, I didn't have the proper documentation. Uh, the only logical step, therefore, was to hand him over to Columbia authorities and the hope was that once on Colombian soil, Pedro Lopez would be forced to face the harsher laws of his native country, where he could be given much different punishments. But about an hour after his rival back in Colombia, Lopez was arrested, charged with the 20-year-old murder of Flora Sanchez, quickly processed and sent into Lima for prosecution.

Starting point is 01:13:16 Sanchez's body had been found and identified by her mother, the pattern and methodology of this 20-year-old murder fit Lopez's previous methodology perfectly, along with other evidence gathered by police that everything they needed to secure a conviction. But Lopez is sneaky little fucker. He was able to benefit from another shitty criminal justice system. In 1995, he was declared mentally incompetent to stand trial on grounds of insanity and incarcerated in the psychiatric wing of a prison in Bogota, where he was diagnosed as a sociopath with an anti-social personality disorder.

Starting point is 01:13:47 I do believe that. He also started blaming Jorge Patino and alternate personality for the murders. He'd taken complete credit for back in Ecuador. Now it's now it's not him. Now it's a damn it. Jorge wanted me to fucking deal this bad stuff. I'm just trying to, you know, smoke a little basucco. Live a good life. Said Jorge made him do everything.

Starting point is 01:14:06 Convince psychiatrist, this was true. I don't believe it's true at all. Three years later, Lopez was then declared sane on evaluation by the prison psychiatrist, probably because he wasn't insane in the first place. I wonder if that prison psychiatrist in Bogota had just moved there from California. Maybe he was the same guy who declared

Starting point is 01:14:23 serial killer Ed Kemper sane after that psychopath killed his grandparents as soon as it felt like. 1998 Pedro was released in Colombia on the condition that he attended monthly sessions with a judge and continued to receive psychiatric treatment. He would do neither. Instead, he visited his now elderly mother, the Nilda, immediately after his release,

Starting point is 01:14:42 after what she was gonna give him, what he was gonna get for his inheritance. She told Pedro that she was a very poor woman. I've seen her in interviews and she looks extremely impoverished. Living in extreme poverty, she told her, her only possessions in the whole world were a chair and a bed.

Starting point is 01:14:56 So he took those, took her chair, took her bed, placed them on the street with a little for sale sign, told her that if known, would buy them that day, he was gonna set them on fucking fire. A woman did buy them, gave Pedro the money, then he left, walked back into the countryside, he'd once littered with the bodies of little girls and no one has been able to locate him since. He could have easily changed his name, could have changed his look for what is worth

Starting point is 01:15:19 his superstitious mother Benilda thinks he is still alive. You know, she hasn't felt anything she believes would signify his past and he'd be seven years old right now. If he is still alive, law enforcement also thinks he may still be alive or at least was back in 2002. In October of 2002, Interpol, the International Criminal Police Organization, an international organization that facilitates international police cooperation, release statement, saying they suspected Lopez in another child's death.

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Starting point is 01:17:37 Good job soldier made it back made it back. Barely. So Pedro Lopez, scary, scary dude, man, as you still out there, the mother of Maria Povetta, the Ecuadorian girl who was lucky enough to escape capture and help locate the, or help lead to the initial arrest of Lopez for murder has some thoughts about that. She says it will be a kindness to the world for someone to murder this fiend. The monster of the Andes won't last long on the outside. Maybe this is why we haven't heard of more missing girls.

Starting point is 01:18:11 Perhaps someone, even the police in Columbia or Ecuador, have already killed him. If they have, I hope they made himself for me too, Maria. Me too. Hope she's right. Interpol might be wrong about that 2002 murder. There haven't been a slew of other bodies fitting his old M.O. So who knows, maybe he got caught by another tribe, maybe fucked with the wrong villagers again, maybe those on Bury a Sino ants are real.

Starting point is 01:18:33 Maybe some I a Kucho Indians bury him in the dirt up to his neck again for trying to take another girl knows aggressive answer champion into his ears slowly burrowing into his brain. Maybe he was still alive when they took the first chunks of his barucho. Ruined, dark mind, you know, back to their colony. Maybe took him days to die, a little bit of payback for all the harm he caused. You know, thinking about him, I'll get eaten by ants, maybe you want to celebrate a little bit. Bang, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, I have a low pass. Let's see what's the internet thinks because why not on today's idiots of the internet Idiots I'll be into that

Starting point is 01:19:31 I Just heard a bunch of footsteps upstairs by the way for my upstairs neighbors at here at the suck dungeon in the in the business I'm just imagine what they're thinking today just weird screams and and everyone's to wow, just some like, plucking noises and a rebus crowd. For today's comments, I looked under a video titled, Pedro Lopez, serial killer files number six uploaded by Rob Gavigan on January 15th, 2015, 816,000 views. User, 100 points in do over,

Starting point is 01:20:02 shows a lack of understanding when it comes to the diversity of Hispanic cultures when he when they post his name is so mexican it is unreal and then a vivas candor posts uh what should have gotten more than one like when she posts he's not mexican though uh exactly he's columbian you silly goose you know that's kind of, you know, an entirely different nation. Similar to talking about like, like, like, how American an Australian's name is. While talking about how he thinks Pedro became a psychopath, user Fred sounds

Starting point is 01:20:37 like one himself with his use of the word Harlet. This guy posts, if it wasn't for his unsympathetic mother, the dumb Harlett who abandoned him to the streets at age eight, he wouldn't have had a psychological disorder that made him a serial killer. His mother, the cruel Harlett, is the first to blame for making her child suffer that severe abuse that led him to become a psychopathic. What the fuck are you talking about Fred? You don't know anything about psychology. A cruel dumb harlot. Who uses, who says harlot? Psychopath. I picture Fred, you know, riding this as he has a prostitute tied up in the basement just

Starting point is 01:21:15 next to him. Not so fun now. Is it harlot? Look who couldn't keep their legs closed? Harlot. You dumb cruel harlot. You wanted to dance with the devil! Now as your chance, I kill you for God, hollet! Now the neighbors are really fucking scared upstairs. I feel like Fred doesn't understand how hard life could be for a woman in the third world of poverty economy. Maybe she never had access to birth control. Maybe she was forced into prostitution, she was very young. What about all the fathers?

Starting point is 01:21:39 Where were they? Why didn't they stick around? If she's the cause of all this, why didn't his siblings also turn into murders? If she was a terrible mom. Why didn't she abandon all of her kids? Maybe, Pedro was a bad seed. Maybe had a lot of evil nature in him. Maybe he was born evil. Uh, Deuce X Machina, uh, probably pronounced, I don't know, it's a YouTube name, uh, leaves a comment that enrages another user posting, I actually feel only pity for this

Starting point is 01:22:04 man. He was raped and molested wherever he went and often saw no justice being done against the perpetrators. Had he grown up in the right environments, he may have never developed into the monster that he became, which I don't disagree with. He may have never turned into that. I don't have pity. I don't only feel pity though, but for what he did, neither does Merrick Gravina. Merrick Gravina not letting this shit slide. Holy shit. Are they not letting this slide?

Starting point is 01:22:27 They post. Do ex-machine. This is the worst comment I have ever seen. What the fuck are you talking about? Oh poor guy. He was molestous. So it doesn't matter. He did worse things to 300 little girls.

Starting point is 01:22:38 Holy shit. Maybe you are as degenerate as he is. That's why you feel pity for him. I would gladly beat the shit out of you. And more happily torture the fuck out of that monster. I love that Merrick also gets included in the beating. I want to kill this monster and beat the shit out of you for posting that. Uh, user, Ursula Forester makes a nice Napoleon dynamite call back posting. How about we don't vote for Pedro? Uh, either get that one or you don't. User Eric XL post, it would be okay if he had just been released after 20 years, but

Starting point is 01:23:10 this guy promised that he would continue if he ever got out and no one kept an eye on him after release. First off, I will say Eric Rob Gavigan seems to have gotten several facts wrong in his presentation of Lopez in this video. Lopez did not serve 20 years. He served 14 years. Also, not sure where he found information that Pedro said he would just keep doing it. I didn't find that in any of my research that he promised to keep doing that.

Starting point is 01:23:35 How does Eric think it would be okay to let this guy out for 20 years as long as he would promise to not do it anymore? Like you could trust the word of someone who's admitted to killing hundreds of kids, like that's their system. Now you admit to killing over 300 kids, right? Yes. And you know that's fucked up, right? Yes, I do. I was confused before, but now I get it.

Starting point is 01:23:56 Okay, so you promise you're not going to do it again. Oh yes, I will know what to do it again. Pinky promise. I will never do it again. Cross your heart and hope to die. Yes, I got to start, I hope to die. I never do it. What are you gonna do when you get out? I want to get the job. I want to be a good person. I keep to myself. I smoke a basuco I cannot afford the crack but I can get all the basuco ones need to knock your kids basuco

Starting point is 01:24:17 I think that's enough for today All right, last Lopez thought. Start from my voice sound a different today by the way. Had a hell of a head cold just getting over. Amazing what one can rationalize, isn't it? When this piece of shit talked about what he done with investigators with the press, it's just no zero shame. No remorse. Just proud of his kills.

Starting point is 01:24:41 Spoky killing girls, Ziffy was some noted baseball player, talking about his favorite home runs. Love the attention, big grand lot to laughs. He had like a celebrity went in a ward instead of a criminal arrested for murder. He also claimed he was helping his victims, said he was strangling them. So they would go to heaven and not suffer in this world. He also once said, I am like a god. I give life and I can take it away.

Starting point is 01:25:04 And he said, I'm the man of the century. No one will ever forget me. Yeah, you won't be forgotten, Pedro, but being forgotten is way better than being remembered for being one of the worst piece of shits of all time. I've never understood people who seem to think that any attention at all is better than no attention. You ever been to a bookstore?

Starting point is 01:25:22 You ever checked out Netflix? You ever walked through a beautiful park or swam off a scenic beach? There's a lot of things to do in life that are fantastic. They never get you noticed or remembered, but are super fun and enjoyable and worthwhile. I don't care how I'm going to be remembered when I'm dead. Not really. I hope I can influence others to do some good things with their lives, but I'm not going to really care because I won't be here. Don't worry about me, you know, how you're going to be remembered, or if you're going to be remembered long after you're gone,

Starting point is 01:25:48 worry about how you're valued now in your life. worry about doing something meaningful, not something memorable, you know, if it ends up being meaningful and memorable, fucking great, bonus. Now let's take a few looks at the memorable, and also extremely despicable deeds of a man. I hope someday has his life finally taken. If it hasn't happened already in today's Top 5 takeaways. Time, Chuck, Top 5 takeaways. Number one, Pedro Alonzo Lopez was born on October 8, 1948 in a little village of Santa

Starting point is 01:26:22 Isabel, Colombia. He'd be kicked out of his home from a less than his sister when he was eight. Spent the majority of his childhood living on the streets of Bogota, fighting at a gang of other kids, stealing cars, and smoking some of that. Oh, Basucco. Number two, Pedro Lopez will be raped three different times growing up by the age of 18, once by a stranger who promised him food and shelter, once by a teacher, once by prison inmates after being thrown in jail for stealing

Starting point is 01:26:44 cars, he would kill two of them. the only man he is known to have ever murdered. Number three, a 1980 Pedro confessed to killing 110 girls in Ecuador. He led police to 53 different bodies after his arrest. He sentenced to 16 years in prison, serves 14. Number four, immediately after his release from an Ecuadorian prison, Pedro has tried again for murder this time of Colombia, where he's declared mentally incompetent to stand trial on grounds of insanity and incarcerated in the psychiatric wing of a prison in

Starting point is 01:27:11 Bogota where he would be declared sane and released three years later in 1998. And he may still be alive and free today. Number five, new info in 2012. In Tungha, the capital of the Colombian department of Bojaca, a girl was killed in the way Pedro had killed so many other girls. Details of the murder were similar enough to Pedro's crimes that the Colombian weekly news show chronicas RCN hinted that Pedro Alonzo Lopez may be responsible. Is he still out there? Hopefully proof of his death come soon. Until then, who knows?

Starting point is 01:27:49 Time suck tough. Five take away. Pedal Lopez has been sucked. Another dirty, dirty, deep bag, deep bag. Another dirty, dirty, dirty, dirt bag to throw into that, you know, fuck that made sack pile. Unbelieveable how people can rationalize the most heinous of acts. Just so you know, both jangles is down in South America right now looking for that son of a bitch and hoping to buy his dick off and then bury him up to his neck in an downhill. Thank you to the time suck team. Thanks to Queen of the Suck Lindsey comments, high priestess of the suck harmony velocamp,

Starting point is 01:28:23 Jesse Garryne of grammar dobner, Reverend Dr. Joe Paisley, time suck comments high priestess of the suck harmony velocamp Jesse guardian of grammar dobner uh... Reverend doctor Joe paisley time suck high priest Alex doogan the guys at bitalix her meet them uh... just met them in their day at well i meet them today as i record this uh... danger brain access apparel thanks to this episode researchers to lily twins Sarah and Rebecca reba uh... the hammers of knowledge i got to meet them and meet their parents in philadelphia after one of my shows last week, such a great family. They're so good. A couple of young, curious meat sacks with great futures ahead of them. They're pretty confident about that.

Starting point is 01:28:51 Now, have you joined? They call to the Curious Private Facebook group, well over 7,000 time suckers in that group now on Facebook and well over 1,500 Discord members in the Discord group. Link to the Discord chat room messaging app right on the time suck app. Links to the private Facebook group and the discord channel in today's episode description. Next week, we're going to be talking about the unibomber. Finally, all hailed a space lizards for voting that topic in. But wait and a suck Ted for about two years now. Gonna be a fascinating suck. I'm sure the unibomber is the nickname given to American domestic terrorist, theodore John Kaczyns theodore, John Kaczynski,

Starting point is 01:29:25 aka Ted Kaczynski, who conducted a 17 year series of attacks using mail bombs to target academics, business executives, and others. The Unibomber bombing campaign, which killed three people in injured 23, started in the late 1970s, continued until Kaczynski was caught in 1996, following a nationwide manhunt led by the FBI. His capture marked the end of the FBI's longest and most expensive manhunt. And judging from the sound of his name, he may be Polish. So probably a lot of slander coming to our Polish monster for today's time-soaker updates. Important updates about pedophile island coming in from a time-soaker call Murray.

Starting point is 01:30:14 St. Hello, master sucker. I was listening to the pedophile island suck and noticed something that wasn't accurate. When you were talking about Earl Shriners, a soul on a seven-year-old boy you said he was left for dead and did die, He actually lived through that horrific ordeal I actually went to the same elementary school as Ryan the boy he assaulted and I lived down the street from the Wooded area where this took place. Wow, I did not know him well But do remember seeing him come back to school afterwards my god According to my research, he died in a vehicular accident in 2005

Starting point is 01:30:39 Just wanted to let you know since this hit so close to home. I remember being a third grade boy who was afraid to go anywhere alone for months. Sorry for the long message, oh, not long at all. And thank you for the info. And keep on sucking, hail Nimrod. Call to the curious member, Karl Murray. Yeah, thank you for that. I remember being confused by the wording in that. And I felt like it was a coin toss

Starting point is 01:31:00 and I couldn't get to like the exact verification. I wanted, it was written to me in a way that suggested that he died, but I guess maybe I just read into left in the woods to die, not did die. So thank you very much. That's a great correction. Update regarding the private, privateization. That's a tough word for my brain.

Starting point is 01:31:19 Regarding the privateization of prisons, by private prison employee in time, sucker Jake, who Ryan sent, and I was talking about that in that pedophile island-wise, you know, I was concerned about privatizing prisons. Jake writes, Hail Suck Master, sack full of meat. The suck kingdom comes, I suck, we done. That's a good one. Forgive us this day, our sucker updates, and those who it made trigger.

Starting point is 01:31:38 Oh, man. Okay, enough of that. First off, I would prefer it if you didn't use my last name. Yep. And this is red on the podcast. I wanted to address your concerns about the private prison industry holding these types of civil commitment centers. First off, I do work for a private prison company.

Starting point is 01:31:53 And how the luxury of being paid to travel to our various cities all across the US, I've been in both government run and privately operated facilities. I have also worked for both sectors. I say this because to show you where any bias might come from, but I've been in corrections for quite a long time and I've attempted to remain as objective as possible. My first question is if you are okay with the government holding people outside of their prison sense, why then does it become not okay when the private industry is being paid to do the same?

Starting point is 01:32:21 My concern there, I can't address my thoughts there, is profit. My concern is that it becomes a conflict of interest, if when profit is on the line, if it is profitable to hold people, you know, in the prison, more profitable than letting them go, to me that creates just a dangerous conflict of interest, where it is in the best interest of the committee to not let these people out. But I might also understand how the committees are run and the committees that decide if they're going to be let out, I might not have any private influence. But that's why that's where my concern comes from. Does it not raise the same question of constitution, constitutionality?

Starting point is 01:32:59 It does. And right now, my science is so full of cold, even harder for my mush mouth. So that's why I'm struggling extra. I can assure you we do not go on watch the government agencies, which contract us consistently visit and audit our procedures and we audit ourselves and our processes on a nearly endless basis. It is actually in our best interest to do better than the government agencies who contract with us can. If we don't do better, why would they pay us? We report everything that happens in our facilities. Some of our clients, government agencies,

Starting point is 01:33:28 tell us we report too much, but that it is because of the scrutiny we are under at all times. When I worked for one of our clients, I witnessed several occasions of cruelty, neglect, and outright abuse that was covered up because of someone's tenure. But with the private industry,

Starting point is 01:33:40 I've seen people in high ranking positions with 15 plus years with the company being fired because they failed to report an incident. This is because our liability is so much higher in the private industry and we have everything to lose if we do not maintain our clientele and our professionalism. Are there some incidents that are bad? Of course, there are. We deal with the same challenges our government counterparts do, but the spotlight will

Starting point is 01:34:01 fall on us at least three times more because we are in the private industry. We are just people trying to make a living with a company who can pay us better and provide better benefits than our government counterparts. That's all I will go into. I will gladly provide more info for you if you ever have questions. Thank you for reading. I've already bought tickets to your Indianapolis show in September. Can't wait to see you live. Keep on sucking. Pete Jake, PS may be bring Pudian, Juju, back everyone's small. I will i i did they come back there's still in there there's still in the uh... and suck well and thank you that was a that was a very well-worded update jake a lot of information yeah i guess i you know i wasn't thinking about

Starting point is 01:34:35 uh... the over sites that the the private sector would have didn't realize that they were more stringent than public so i guess as long as we keep those laws in place then then i don't have a problem you know as long as the scrutiny is the same. It sounds like even better. So thank you. Pronunciation update coming in from Kim Malone.

Starting point is 01:34:50 Kim writes, again, with the mispronouncing of the word penitentiary, it does not have a you in it. You have pronounced it as penitentiary. Oh, every time I've heard you say it, I've sent this in before, but please stop. LOL. And one suck you said it so many times that I thought maybe it was me saying it wrong. So I listen to a, I listen to a pronunciation guy, I'm not wrong. See you in Atlanta, hail Nimrod, keep on sucking.

Starting point is 01:35:15 Thank you, Kim. Penitentiary. Penitentiary. I got, now I got to look it up. I got to look up some phonetic spelling on this one. Thank you for sending that in. Time, sucker Bill Wicks had a hilarious message regarding last week's episode. Bill wrote, Dan, 12 minutes into the pedophile suck

Starting point is 01:35:28 and I'm definitely not ready to dish out some vigilante justice. I would assuredly not welcome your help in tracking down and castrating pedophiles and stapling their assholes to their foreheads still attached. I most certainly would not seek your assistance in dropping these pieces of shit

Starting point is 01:35:44 bound and gagged into some exceptionally rapy big dick only prison. All of these things are legal and frowned upon by our lizard overlords who definitely aren't reading our messias. Keep on sucky. That's fucking great Bill. Thank you man. Thank you for sending that in. I got some of you last week with my horrific Pat Sage Act character assassination based in nothing true whatsoever. I need to probably never do something like that again. It's terrible. But sucker Eric Grant wrote in saying,

Starting point is 01:36:10 God damn it, Dan. I started googling Pat Sage Act immediately. You got me. I normally take pride in not getting sucked, but holy shit, good move doing it right off the bat, keep on sucking. I try to keep you guys off balance. I know, but that one I felt a little guilty about.

Starting point is 01:36:22 It was so terrible. And now for some powerful messages, uh, from those affected by sexual abuse, petafow island message, uh, from Tim, time, sucker, Kerry, leaving last name out on purpose, who wrote him with a fantastic subject line of Pat SayJack hooked up with your mom's friend, Paula. Nice call back. Uh, Kerry writes, hey, Dan, of course, that subject line is nonsense, just trying to get your attention. My apologies. Not needed. Though it was difficult to get through due to constant crime

Starting point is 01:36:49 and pausing to become physically ill, I want to thank you for tackling the too often avoided subject to pedophilia. It is a goddamn epidemic. And most people seem to be looking the other way. My wife and I found out a year and a half ago that my father had been, oh, man, this is so brutal. Found out that my father had been molesting our oldest daughter since 2014 when she was

Starting point is 01:37:06 only 11 years old. Since our daughter came forward five other women have come to us saying that he abused them too. Some as far back is the mid 1960s. As a protective father of four girls, you can imagine how hard this has caused me to be on myself, not being the most mentally stable fellow in the first place. I have been to some very dark places on this journey.

Starting point is 01:37:28 A fan of the Rezudo show, I only found time sucking your standup in December. Your comedy's been a vital escape for me in times that I wasn't sure I could go on. You may think I'm being ridiculous, but I truly believe you save my life and I cannot thank you enough. Kerry, Kerry, man, I can't imagine.

Starting point is 01:37:40 Cannot imagine how tough that would be. I mean, my God, the double whammy of the victim and perpetrator both being very close family members. Man, thanks for protecting your daughter for doing the right thing and standing by her and making sure that your dad is prosecuted. That cannot be easy. Hope you're getting some good therapy. Hope the whole family is.

Starting point is 01:38:06 And sorry you had to have somebody like that and the tree man, but no reflection on you. Absolutely none. Thanks for being great meat sack and a great dad. Timesucker Katie has sent in a powerful message regarding overcoming the guilt of being victimized. Got a lot of these messages. And thank you everyone for sending these in.

Starting point is 01:38:24 Choosing to read this one. Katie writes, how your fiery hatred of sexual predators help me come forward with my abuse. That's the subject line. Hey, Dan, I've wanted to write you about this for a long time. And after the pedophile island episode, I felt like it was a good time to tell you

Starting point is 01:38:37 how much you've helped me overcome years of manipulation and come forward with my own sexual abuse. It may sound weird, but stay with me. My story is that I was sexually abused by my sister's husband on three different occasions between the ages of 14 and 16. It wasn't just touching. The man manipulated the fuck out of me

Starting point is 01:38:53 and it had it continued, he would have raped me. I have no doubt in my mind. I did not come forward with it until I was 21. My brother reported to police for me. That's a whole other story. My family is fucked up. And it was such a difficult decision for me to press charges and the day he was arrested was the worst day of my life because it i felt so guilty me

Starting point is 01:39:11 for ruining his life i honestly felt so sorry for him that i almost dropped the charges all of that because of how deeply i was manipulated okay now for the part where i explain how you help me before the police were involved i honestly just didn't realize the scope of the situation, and I didn't think it was worth making a big deal about it, and I felt like it was my fault. At the time, there were several sucks

Starting point is 01:39:31 where you were able to express how you feel about predators. The way you spoke about them and didn't hold back helped the wheels start turning. I started realizing how messed up my situation was and how I needed to do something about it and fight for myself. After I pressed charges, I specifically remembered your angry rant about David Kuresh. And it was what made me realize how manipulated I had been and it was like a light bulb went

Starting point is 01:39:51 off my brain. It made me snap out of it and realize that my abuser is a sick fuck and deserves to rod and jail. That there is no redemption from that and that those people deserve a hell of a lot more than a slap on the wrist. It helped me so much to hear a normal person's viewpoint on predators, I don't know how normal I am, but I'm glad I helped.

Starting point is 01:40:10 I was, it was like I finally had the right voice in the back of my head telling me how it really is. I don't know if any of this makes sense, it does. But I just wanted you to know that sharing your passion, hatred of injustice and scumbags helps someone finally break the cycle of manipulation and gain an accurate perspective would happened to them. I honestly think there needs to be more angry rhetoric about predators because to talk about

Starting point is 01:40:31 them any other way is doing a great disservice to their victims. But that's just one person's opinion, one that I agree with. Thanks for being an angry bastard. I hope it makes you happy to know that it positively affected at least one person. Sorry, this is a bit long-winded. I'm so excited to see you in the Salt Lake City, Utah this weekend. This will be this past week. Yeah, absolutely.

Starting point is 01:40:49 And I will be at your Saturday early show. We're pumped to see you perform for a second time. Thank you. Your loyal times are a KDPS. After charges were pressed, six other women came forward. Two or three of them are his cousins. He is currently awaiting sentencing after pleading guilty to four counts of child sex abuse. I'm blanking on the exact charge and one count of loot act with a minor. Each is a felony charge of one to fifteen years in prison.

Starting point is 01:41:11 I'm told the judge overseeing the case in Utah does not put up with that shit. So we're hoping he passes down a harsh sentence. Hill Nimrod me too. Me too. I hope he is kept away from other potential victims for the rest of his life. Because somebody who does that like he he does, as we learned, probably not gonna stop. And we get another one, another perspective on all of this.

Starting point is 01:41:32 Actually, you know what, we're going to do two more, two more updates. Sorry, I had to scroll ahead there. This was from Rebecca Jade. Rebecca writes, I was referred to time to like buying X-boyfriend and for a long time refused to listen to you because I didn't want to prove him right. I'm glad I got drunk one night and listen to you anyway because that motherfucker was right. Your hilarious and dark is fuck and I love it.

Starting point is 01:41:50 Anyway to the point, pedophile island. I have always had a fast nation in all things macabre and maybe that's why I'm so good at my job. I register sex offenders. Wow. I'm not glant, it's not glamorous obviously but somebody's got to do it. I tried to get as many locked up as I can because Frank Frank there is no cure and fuck those guys for hurting kids. While listening to you go through the stats about sex offenders my blood began to boil.

Starting point is 01:42:10 Not because you said anything wrong but because the truth is so much more terrifying than anybody realizes. Even when sex abuse crimes are reported it is fairly common for the charges to be pled down to a lesser offense. For example a locally known predator here has been charged multiple times with aggravated sexual assault of a child. All but one of the charges have been dismissed and it was pled down to injury to a child, which means he does not have to register as a sex offender. I think it's because of the laziness of the attorneys not wanting to go to court with

Starting point is 01:42:39 a difficult case, but to be fair, I don't have any stats to back that up. One time an attorney told me he dismissed a charge on one of my offenders for failing to register because he was just confused. This offender was actually recorded telling me to go fuck myself because he didn't want to register anymore. Shortly after he was released, he then tried to kidnap a teenager from a convenience store. Surprise, surprise. The courts dismissed that as well.

Starting point is 01:43:02 God damn it. And he is out there roaming the streets again. Well now you got my blood boiling, that fucked up. This is just one of the many, many stories I have. I mean, shit, look at all the white guys let off on serious charges because the judges don't want to ruin the pervert's life. Knowing full well the pervert in question

Starting point is 01:43:17 completely altered the life of all of his or her victims. But I digress, I think the moral of the story is keep an eye on your kids and trust nobody. As you stated, most sexual offenses are committed by someone you know, stranger danger, just as not as prevalent as you would think. Most importantly, talk to your children, monitor their social media and their phones, as this is now the common way to groom a child. Good point.

Starting point is 01:43:37 Trust your child when they don't want to be around somebody. Mm-hmm. Also something not everyone is aware of the National Sex Offender Public Website, NSOPW. This will link you to your state's registry and you can do a search by name or location and see all registered sex offenders in your area. The NSOPW also offers resources on education and prevention, which is just so, so important.

Starting point is 01:43:58 Sorry if I'm telling you things you already know. Now this is important to share. I just wanted people to do everything they can to keep their kids safe. Hopefully, both jangles and his infinite wisdom can rip the testicle off each motherfucker who is right to anyone. Thanks for everything you do. Keep on sucking, hail Nimra.

Starting point is 01:44:13 Thank you, Rebecca. Awesome info. Yes, the problem is much deeper than people are aware of. Most people, and yes, use the registry. Lindsay and I keep track of perverts in our area. We use it. Sadly, there are several around the suck dungeon due to the dungeon being located near some transitional housing.

Starting point is 01:44:29 And yes, I have often fantasized about the possibility of getting away with murdering them, which Lindsay does not care for because she's afraid of me going to prison for that. I, you know, if I could just figure out how to confidently get away with it, I might very much enjoy going full dexter on those motherfuckers. And finally an important update from Anthony McAndrew that is leading us to our next charity donation. He rides deer, master sucker. I listen time suck every week. I just finished this week's suck on pedophile island. I wanted to tell you about a group called bikers against child abuse. They are a group of volunteers that are bikers who protect children that

Starting point is 01:45:04 are victims of abuse. I am sending the link to their website. It might be something we're saying in an update to give people in need a resource keeps sucking. Yes, thanks Anthony. I have seen these guys actually a local chapter. I was part of a fourth July parade this last summer here in court of lane. Reverend Dr. Joe motherfucking Paisley also interviewed some local members of this organization when he was working at rock 94 and a half and spoke in FM station there and says they would help transport sexually abused kids to court and show up in the courtroom and mean mug the Abuser let him know we see you motherfucker. We know who you are. We know what you've done I love the intimidation factor

Starting point is 01:45:41 Their mission statement is biker's against child abuse Abuse is a nonprofit tax-exempt organization that provides that exists to provide aid, comfort, safety, and support for children who have been sexually, physically and emotionally abused. We are dedicated to the principle that one of the basic rights of childhood is to be safe and protected. And when the child's family or environment have failed them, we stand ready to provide it to them.

Starting point is 01:46:02 Bikers Against Child Abuse is a strong organization of dedicated individuals who are willing to sacrifice any and all in order to protect and secure a child's basic right to a happy childhood. And it looks like based on current Patreon subscriptions, we're going to be able to donate over $1,600 to them this next month and march to help them do what they do. Fuck dirty purves, hail Nimrod, everyone else may lose to Fina, uh, find those purfs and torture them in Nimrod's butthole in life after this. We all did.

Starting point is 01:46:37 That's all for today, mead sacks. Enjoy those penance, uh, don't wander into the mountains and killing girls this week. If you do, I hope those umber-assino ants are real and eat your fucking head off. For all of you not getting eaten by ants, stick around after this little outro for some joy for a moment if you want. And after that, you know, keep on sucking. Oh shit! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING! RING!

Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 128 - Serial Killer Pedro "Monster of the Andes" Lopez

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