Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 133 - Mikhail "The Werewolf" Popkov: Russia's Most Prolific Serial Killer

Starting point is 00:00:00 Mikhail Viktorovich Popkov, the werewolf, the angarsk maniac. After his latest additional murder convictions on December 10, 2018, Mikhail is now the most prolific serial killer in Russian history. Move over Andre Chikotilo, there's a new piece of shit in town. Mikhail Popkov has been found guilty of killing 78 people, 77 women, one man a fellow police officer. And yes, Mikhail was a police officer. A true monster. He used his badge for years to lure women into thinking he was safe and getting into his car.

Starting point is 00:00:32 And then he drive them out into the woods and brutally rape and kill them and do this over and over and over again. His Emma was murdered with whatever tool was handy. He killed women with knives, hammers, screwdrivers, bats, more. And then he'd rape them while they were either unconscious or already dead. And while he was doing this, doing this for possibly almost 20 years, he was also raised in a daughter who after watching numerous interviews seems well adjusted.

Starting point is 00:00:56 All things considered seems to be doing great. Said he was always a great father. He was a daddy's girl. And he's married the whole time to a woman who stood by him. Said he was a great father. He was a daddy's girl. And he's married the whole time to a woman who stood by him, said he was a great husband, stood by him, even after his initial murder convictions of 22 women, said that if he was released, you'd never talk to him about it

Starting point is 00:01:13 and just stand by him for the rest of her life. We traveled to Siberia today. A place pretty near the bottom of my travel bucket list, gotta be honest. And I piece together all the little puzzle pieces I can find on the web to build the most complete picture I can of a total sociopath, a man with the empathy of a rabid badger, a man Siberian prosecutor say is pathologically attracted to killing. It's another deep dive on another evil serial killing son of a bitch today on TimeSuck.

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Starting point is 00:07:46 and then the following Monday for everybody else, Easter egg version of the A whole Air Banjo Tease, right? Back by popular demand again. And this time, just for the fuck of it, we're putting them in a giant plastic Easter egg. Because that's fun. You can make the A whole Air Banjo Academy part of your Easter egg hunt this Easter.

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Starting point is 00:08:19 lot of, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. Planket dun, planket dun, planket dun, pl I'm playing, I'm playing. That was me attempting to air banjo, not attempting. That was me fucking awesome, awesome the air banjo in the time-socking throw. Now let's learn a little bit about Siberia and about one of the most sadistic meat sacks that unforgiving Tundra has ever produced. Before we jump into today's timeline, let's talk about where all these crimes took place. The land where the werewolf was born grew up to be a hunter of women, and Garsk Siberia, a name associated with gulags and frozen tundra. Siberia is an enormous area of land that makes up nearly all of northern Asia. It's made up of the central and eastern portions of Russia.

Starting point is 00:09:09 It encompasses the area from the Errol Mountains east all the way to the Pacific Ocean. You know, in Russia itself, the largest country in the world by far. In total, Siberia covers 5.1 million square miles, 13.1 million square kilometers, over 77% of Russia's territory. Siberia is huge. Various nomadic tribes of people have lived in Siberia for thousands and thousands of years. In the early 13th century, Siberia was conquered by the Mongols. In the 14th century, the independent Siberian conate was established after the breakup of the Mongol Golden Horde in 1502 CE. Yeah, I got to suck on the Mongols again one of these days. Yep, yep, yep.

Starting point is 00:09:54 And I don't, I took this again, I took this from, it says in the 14th century, the independence I bring it was established after the breakup of the Golden Horde. That doesn't even make any sense. That would have to be in the 16th century. So anyway, Mongols, I take this stuff directly from sources and sometimes I'm like, what the fuck? Why was written that way? In the 16th century, Russia began to grow in power and it started to take lands from the Siberian continent. Yes, yes.

Starting point is 00:10:19 In the 19th century, Imperial Russia and its territories began sending prisoners to Siberia. This is the Siberia I think of. It's height around 1.2 million prisoners were sent over to Siberia. Beginning in 1891, the construction of the Trans-Siberian Railway began to link Siberia to the rest of Russia. More people are going to move out to Siberia from 1801 to 1914, about 7 million people moved from European Russia to Siberian Russia, and from 1859 to 1917, after the construction of the railroad was complete, another 500,000 people moved out to Siberia.

Starting point is 00:10:56 And in the 20th century, industrial towns, spring up throughout Siberia, as communist Russia, began to exploit the areas, many, many natural resources. Angarsk is one of these industrial towns. So that's Siberia, the broader setting for today's tale. Now let's talk about a more specific city that the wherewolf preyed on, or preyed on the people of this city. Angarsk, here's a very Russian description of Angarsk taken from Russiatrek.org. There's kind of Russian travel information website. I love the way they describe things over there.

Starting point is 00:11:30 In the summer of 1945, the area between the rivers and Gara in Ketoy was chosen for a construction of the plant producing artificial liquid fuel. The equipment for the plant was brought on reparation from Germany. It was planned to build settlement there too. In October 1945, the first builders arrived there. In spring 1946, construction of settlements began. In April 1948, construction of two-storyed stone buildings started. Oh man, it sounds super fun! But they have so many awesome water parks, movie theaters,

Starting point is 00:12:06 arcades, bowling alleys, Frisbee golf parks, bike trails, slotted scooters. Oh man, sounds a warm and fuzzy. Here's the description of some of the city's key features. Trans-Siberian real well in the federal highway M53, a back-all pass through the territory and Angarski district. The city is important to note of pipeline transport. Passengers buses and mini buses carry up to 85% of passengers. In this next sentence, maybe my favorite descriptor sentence of Angarski. Angars is in the list of Russian cities with the most adverse environmental conditions. Well, he packed my bags. Woo!

Starting point is 00:12:47 Man, they must make you so much tourism money. God, just raking it in. What are people doing this super fun city? They work in factories. So many factories, like a crazy amount. More from russiatrack.org, a section called Angarsk Industry. Angars is also known as City of Petro Chemists. It is one of largest industrial centers of Russia with powerful chemical and oil

Starting point is 00:13:14 chemical industries, machine building, metal working, light and food industries. The main plants are Angarsk Oil Chemical Company, an Engarsk Electrolysis chemical plant produces Florek Uranium, the industrial area stretches 30 kilometers along the Engara River. Oh man, an industrial area 30 kilometers long, almost 20 miles for a city of less than 250,000. It sounds like it's just one giant fucking factory. It sounds so preposterously bleak. I did a Google image search for Angarsk, Russia, and almost nothing but just pictures of old dirty buttholes came up. So that says a lot. And that's not true. But I did a real

Starting point is 00:13:59 image search for, and it is the bleak is the bleak is looking Russian city I've ever looked into. Oh man, it was built. Yeah, during the height of communism, right, during the height of the Cold War, and it's just like a planned communist city, just built by people who based on their design skills have no souls or join their lives. The residential areas are just row after row after row of these, like I can't stress enough how bleak and hopeless they look. These bleak, concrete, sad, communist like bunker apartment buildings. And then 85% of the town is taking shitty Russian buses to work in shitty Russian factories and then go back home to their shitty Russian and concrete apartments. Fuck, and all of this in Siberia.

Starting point is 00:14:46 There's a couple cool monuments in parks, and I'm sure there's a nicer section of town somewhere, but overall, it is a shithole. Angarsk is, yes, located in the middle of nowhere. It's only a 45 minute drive to, or Kutsk, a city of over 600,000, but other than that, there's not a lot of city anywhere near. Just a lot of Siberian forest.

Starting point is 00:15:07 Erkutsk seems like a nice place for Siberia, like nice place asterisk. It's still located in an area with the most adverse environmental conditions. But it isn't like just a communist camp town. Erkutsk is actually a proper city founded before communism. It was found in the late 17th century. Diverse looking neighborhoods, actual homes, theaters, universities, and international airport, various monuments, overall way more culture than Angarsk. Erkutsk is also only about 10 or 10 miles or 16 kilometers from the massive Lake Bakal, the deepest lake, the oldest lake in the world, a lake with a maximum

Starting point is 00:15:48 depth of 5,315 feet. Over 1600 meters, it is huge. Its surface area is some 12,200 square miles. Over 31,000 square kilometers, a length of 395 miles, 636 kilometers, average width of 30 miles or 48 kilometers. It is the world's largest freshwater lake. It contains roughly a fifth of all of the non-frozen freshwater on the entirety of the Earth's surface, is in this one lake. 5,500 cubic miles of freshwater. 23,000 cubic kilometers.

Starting point is 00:16:28 It's the, yeah, and again, the world's oldest lake estimated to be around 30 million years old. I love random trivia like that. Roughly a fifth of all the freshwater on Earth. Tibet is in Siberia and not unlike Northern Arizona. Man, think about it. Think about the jet scheme. Think about all the houseboats.

Starting point is 00:16:44 Think about all the jet skiing, think about all the houseboats, think about all the lake parties, so much beer to be drank, and the hot sun, lots of bikinis. If I can say a beer, you know, Lake Bacal lies in Surrounded by Mountains, some of which rise more than 6,600 feet over 2,000 meters above the lake surface. So when the weather's good,

Starting point is 00:17:00 I mean, it's beautiful, it's very scenic. The area around the lake is very pretty. But let's get back to talking about how remote this area is. You have to drive south for over a thousand kilometers, roughly 650 miles from Angusk to make it to a bigger city outside of Eurkutsk. And that's Ulan Bator. That's the capital city, largest city of Mongolia, city around 1.5 million people. The nearest kind of bigger Russian city is Crosnoyarsk, Crosnoyarsk, Siberian city of just over a million. Drive of just over

Starting point is 00:17:32 1000 kilometers west. It's over 1800 kilometers, over 11,000 miles to the next closest major city. Nova, Nova, fuck these words. I put, I put, I put pronunciation guides next to 99% of them. Nova, Nova, Sabitisk. Fuck, it's at Novo, Sabitisk. Sabitisk. A mouth doesn't want to do it. Third largest city in Russia after Moscow and St. Petersburg. The largest city in Siberia.

Starting point is 00:17:58 Novo, Sabitisk with over 1.6 million residents. Super nice. Russia, RussiaTrek.ussia trek dot org says the says the nicest hotel back in cross the yarsk is a hilton garden in this is like one of the nicest hotels in Siberia seriously i've said many out a hilton garden in and they're nice but in most american cities they're like slightly above average

Starting point is 00:18:20 they're not usually in the top ten of the best hotels in town snap judgment verdict of uh... this other across the Yarsk, another industrial shithole, as is kind of Siberian general. And there aren't many other cities within 3,000 kilometers. It's super remote, you know, and Garsk is. People think we're I live in Cortelein Idaho, super remote, and it is compared to most of the continental

Starting point is 00:18:43 United States for sure. But within 1000 miles of Cordillin, there's Salt Lake City, Portland, Oregon, Sattelwastia, Vancouver, Canada, British Columbia, Calgary, Edmonton, Reno, Sacramento, San Francisco, within 1000 miles, Antigarisk is like Fairbanks Alaska remote. And almost as brutally cold as Fairbanks, the average low for the month of February is negative 14 degrees Fahrenheit. Average high 10 degrees Fahrenheit. No thank you. No megusta.

Starting point is 00:19:08 That's the average temperature. That's the average temperature. It can drop to less than 30 below. Last few pieces of trivia, the famous trans Siberian railroad connects Angarsk to other regions in Russia and Mongolia and the city is home to a couple of super fun sounding museums. You can go to either the Angarsk Museum of clocks and watches or the Angarsk Museum of victory. I found a little description of the Clock Museum on museum studies abroad dot org.

Starting point is 00:19:36 The Clock Museum and Angarsk make for great dates rip outside of Eurkutsk. No, it doesn't. No, it does not. I've seen the pictures do not go. It says the museum has an impressive collection of clock pieces from all around the world of all different type styles and time periods, quietly walking around the several exhibition rooms of the clock museum. You hear the constant sound of ticking from hundreds of different clocks, each with their own unique sound. That sounds like fucking hell to me. Anybody

Starting point is 00:20:04 out there, other than me, familiar with Mesa Fonia, where you have like a severe aversion to certain noises. Oh man, no thank you to the quiet Siberian Clock Museum. If you locked me in that museum, I would completely lose my shit in two hours tops. I googled the Angars Museum of Victory, and my laptop just actually said,

Starting point is 00:20:25 yeah, get the fuck out of here. What are you talking about? I know I found it. Here's a verbatim review. I found, here's one verbatim review. I found on TripAdvisor of the Angarsk Museum of Victory. In Angarsk, be sure to visit the museum. A large number of exhibits brought by our soldiers at trophies. The museum has things from an earlier time. I just love that last sense. It has things from an earlier time. Not even cool things.

Starting point is 00:20:51 Just like, it has some things. What's in your museum? Ah, we got some things. We got some things from like an earlier time. I don't know if you like that. So this is a place the werewolf grows up. Now let's talk about this murderous piece of shit. In today's time stock timeline, right after a quick word from today's sponsor, today's

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Starting point is 00:22:38 And honestly, we don't know much about his childhood. That's partly why I went into more detailed and usual about his hometown. Try to get a better feel for his life, at least where he lived, where he committed his crimes. We actually don't know a whole bunch about the details of his murders, many of them. Or his marriage. We know some of them murder details. Don't worry.

Starting point is 00:22:56 Or his career or his victims, this suck, I feel good about making an entertain suck. I learned a lot. I'm happy with it, but fuck the Russian government holy shit fucking Russia the Soviet Union is is no longer this big you know communist nation but it still seems to be a shit show in many ways in Russia like Russia is not a great place to be a journalist they're no longer communist yeah but they're but they're not really free in Russia either the state controls a lot of the media and the media they don't control they can shut down if they if they want to and

Starting point is 00:23:26 you know and they have shut down various media outlets over the years their democratic in theory but not in reality the status far more power than the state does in our own nation u.s. putin was a kgb officer for almost twenty years he was an official and boris yeltsin administration and when he was hand picked by yeltsin to take over 1999 he immediately pardoned him for corruption charges Why because he was super fucking corrupt Yeltsin was super corrupty, you know, and then you know

Starting point is 00:23:53 Putin has funneled millions and millions into vacation vias or villa. Excuse me other Still I'm still in Panama via is the invocation via us nobody's funneled millions into you into luxury homes, vacations for himself and his cronies. He doesn't allow himself to investigate it. Russia may no longer be communist again, but it is still so corrupt. And when the president of your country is super corrupt, that corruption seems to often trickle down throughout the rest of your government. And I think governmental corruption is part of why we don't know a lot about Mikhail Popkov, as much as I would like to.

Starting point is 00:24:24 The government did not do a good job of catching this guy. They didn't keep a lot of good records of what he's done compared to, if this would have happened in the US, does just my opinion after doing a lot of research into various Russian topics by now. So because of what I just told you, there is a lot of the sources are just kind of tabloid-y

Starting point is 00:24:41 and a lot of it was just poorly written bullshit. They had to really read several times to get some good info about the werewolf. Corrupt authoritarian political leadership strong investigative journalism don't go well together. So many conflicting reports about pop-cups, so much skimming over details. And then also this happened in Siberia, a place, you know, almost no one wants to go spend a lot of time in. And because it happened, you know, very recently, no good book has yet to be written about

Starting point is 00:25:08 this sadistic fuck, which I get, you know, in order to write a good book, you know, I have to quickly go to travel to Siberia, track down police records in a slow, moving bureaucratic nightmare system, deal with the Russian government, not fun. There's been no good Mikhail Popkov documentaries yet. It's two reasons, you know, there's no good McHale pop of documentaries yet. It's two reasons. There's no good books, not even like a decent Rolling Stone or Time magazine expose a type article. There's a couple podcasts that have covered him, but not very well. Not really their fault, though. There's just not much out there. The American news outlets like CBS Fox, ABC, CNN, Washington Post,

Starting point is 00:25:40 etc. have just kind of reprinted the same Russian tabloid info I found. Come on, New York Times. Usually do at least one in-depth look into a dirt bag like this pretty quickly, but no. I'm guessing the info just has not been released. The trial transcript from either of his major trials, not available, like it would be if it was in the US possibly. But there isn't a first show. There truly is.

Starting point is 00:26:05 It just won't have all of the details you've come to expect from TimeStuck, which is why I'm giving this a little disclaimer now. I just want you to know why. Wasn't for lack of looking into. I know he killed that one dude. He killed one guy. I know that guy was a police officer,

Starting point is 00:26:18 but that's all I know. That is all that is known about that killing. Some details, the very least, very buried, like very buried on the interwebs if they exist at all. I read the only book on him written in English. I watched a ton of videos, all the English ones I could find.

Starting point is 00:26:36 I'm pretty sure I read every single article on him that Google knows how to access. And I didn't get everything I wanted, but I got enough. I got enough. I got enough. Hope you agree by the end of this suck. We don't know a lot about McCale's family. We know he has at least one sister, Alina,

Starting point is 00:26:52 who's been referenced in various interviews recently. We don't know who his father is, don't know if his father was around to raise him. We know his mother is Antonia, and Antonia, Popkov. And we know that she raised him and that she has refused to believe he is guilty based on interviews. Popkov has also made vague references to his mother being abusive when he was a child, nothing too specific other than he considered her to be a kind of a drunk here and there, or at least drank too much. It's kind of vague. Just a couple vague references about her drinking

Starting point is 00:27:27 and possibly abusing him. And I don't know if I buy it. It seems like a lot of these guys try to blame one or both of their parents instead of taking personal responsibility for their heinous crimes. So I don't always take their allegations at face value. Nothing in the press has come out about Antonia being abusive. No one else has backed this up or given any credence to it whatsoever and she seemed to

Starting point is 00:27:47 have released it by her son. I don't know. It doesn't feel like that was a big thing. Some have stated in podcast articles that many of the victims looked like his mother and that he had mommy issues and that drove him to kill. But the better sources I've come across do not corroborate this. Based on the interviews I've watched and read, I think that's just kind of lazy, just not really thought out speculation,

Starting point is 00:28:08 like it fits maybe a pre-programmed narrative if somebody has. That doesn't seem to be true based on other things I've found. He later became a police officer, nothing has come out about him having any sort of juvenile record. So I'm gonna say his childhood,

Starting point is 00:28:23 four angarsk, four Siberia, probably fairly typical, probably free of any major criminal activity based on where he's from. You know, he grew up in a drab industrial shitty communist apartment, I'm guessing like most of his neighbors in Pierce. Sometime in the early 80s, after he's at a high school, he attended

Starting point is 00:28:41 and then graduated from a police academy in Angarsk and then became a police officer. And that is where he would meet his wife, Alina, a fellow officer. In 1986, MacKale and Alina get married in Angarsk. He's 22, she's 20. Two years later, the couple has their first and only child daughter, Ikat Arena. And by all accounts, based on photographs of the young couple interviews with Alina and Ikat Arena after Mikhail's initial arrest, he was a loving husband and father and they

Starting point is 00:29:11 had a solid family life. Alina would describe Ikat Arena as a daddy's girl. She's also called Katya sometimes. Katya would describe her father as a great dad. The family stayed in Angarsk with Mikhail and Mikhail briefly switched careers in the Ailes in the 80s, excuse me, becoming a fireman for a little while. Popka would later say of this kind of period of his life, I had the family. My wife and daughter considered me a good husband and father, which corresponded to reality.

Starting point is 00:29:43 I was in the service, in the police, I've been positive feedback on my work. I never thought of myself as mentally unhealthy. During my police service, I regularly passed medical commissions and was recognized as fit. Maybe it's just the way it translates in English, but 90% of the time when I'm reading a quote from somebody living in Russia,

Starting point is 00:30:02 the way they talk sounds like they just fucking hate their life. So unemotional, so non-expressive, so very like cold and just matter of fact, you know? I make good police officer, I recognize it's fit. I have many positive feedback on work. After take bus home and eats old soup in small cement departments with no carpet, I lay on cats next to silent wife

Starting point is 00:30:25 and stare blankly at ceiling. I think to myself, how lucky I be to get to live in Engarsk. How lucky I be to make money enough to wake up tomorrow and live dream over again. No wonder we keep coming back to Russia for serial killer sucks. So much of Russia seems to be a nightmare. Despite claiming to have a happy marriage,

Starting point is 00:30:47 clearly not everything was perfect at home because Popkov would years later, after getting caught, blame his wife, Alina for his killings, specifically on something she did, sometime in between, around 1997, 1992, she had an affair that Popkov found out about. I bet he got so emotional.

Starting point is 00:31:08 My wife accepts penis. That's not mine in two vagina. I not care for it. I rather my wife not do that. It's make me less happy than should be. During a TV interview on the state funded a Razia one channel. He blamed his wife's quote, treason for his attacks on women. He said, there was an incident with infidelity of my wife.

Starting point is 00:31:30 Then I, if I can say so, treated that young man. And that's sure what he means by treated, but strongly suspect he means a beating. I think he probably beats the fuck out of that guy. He didn't kill him because that guy would admit to the affair after the werewolf was caught. He's still around. That guy was also a police officer and a police officer who worked also with Alina. Popkov didn't catch him red handed, but he came close. He caught them at his house together and then later found two used condoms in the trash can and then put it all together. Popkov, after this, had his own affair. He boasted an affair with a woman called Ilina, poor Ilina, who verified their relationship with police, telling them he also never harmed her.

Starting point is 00:32:13 And yes, that is the third Ilina in the story. And I looked over that numerous times. I was like, what the fuck? His wife, the woman he admitted to having an affair with and his sister, all Ilina Alina apparently that name is super popular in Siberia in the 60s Or maybe that name is just proof of the like further proof of the bleakness of so much of Russian life We name many girl Alina on Russia because it easy it easy to name and and because they girls Maybe they live maybe they don't whyt work into name when life cheap. Most girl named Lena, most dog named Hugu-Fuck. I personally dated seven Alinas

Starting point is 00:32:56 and have owned four Hugu-Fuck's. Anyway, clearly there were some troubles in the pop of home. They did stay married, you know, based on, again, pictures and kind of later reviews, they seem to have worked it out, at least on the surface. Clearly, based on what Mikhail would go out and do, he did not deal with it psychologically. I mean, I guess maybe he would have done that. Anyways, I don't know, maybe not. You never know what just sets somebody off with trigger somebody.

Starting point is 00:33:23 There is evidence that Mikhail was also super possessive and jealous in their relationship. And one of those guys who buys into the whole quote, version, horror complex, this came up in an interview. That whole thing about women, you know, are either good girls who have never fucked anyone. You know, they have sex with you, but only that's the only person they've had sex with never even thought about another man, you know, or they are a filthy slut whore who just less for any and all dick constantly. Luciferina not a fan of this complex, not a fan of pop-cuff, the werewolf.

Starting point is 00:33:55 Get over yourself, McCale, you're five tops. Of course your wife thought about other dick. She's at least a seven or eight, and In addition to you not being physically attractive, you had the personality and emotional complexity of a stale piece of fucking Russian bread. And you're insecure, that's not attractive. A little bit of jealousy can be kind of hot. A lot of it is oppressive. I was jealous when I was younger

Starting point is 00:34:16 and it was never about who I dated. If you're with somebody who's jealous, it's never about you, it's about them. It was always about me and my own insecurities, right? I mean, you know, you wanna try a few dicks, ladies? Fuckin's about them. It was always about me and my own insecurities, right? I mean, you know, you want to try a few dicks, ladies, fuck and try them. Carry some condoms, see what you like best. You want to be stuck with the wrong dick. You know, and there's so many out there. And if your wife marriage you despite you having a wonky dick, don't be insecure about it. Be thankful. Be happy that

Starting point is 00:34:39 you found someone who loves you so much. They will stay with you despite you having a micro-pean. You should email Reverend Dr. Joe about it. He's happy. He knows his wife loves him. Anyway, friends of Mikael said that almost from the day of their wedding in 1986, of his wedding, he spoke of wanting to put his wife under surveillance and he would fly off the handle at the very mention of any promiscuous women. So the dude clearly had some women issues and his wife's affair clearly triggered his insecurities around these women issues. And again, I guess we knew he had women issues. You don't brutally kill roughly 80 women if you don't.

Starting point is 00:35:17 Popkov seemed to have then started taking out his anger after the affair on other women. Women he found promiscuous. He started taking out his anger in nineteen ninety two with his first known victim. His first known killing occurred in nineteen ninety two when he was twenty eight years old while he still worked at a firefighter. Most serial killers start showing anti social behavior way before this. Some indicators in early childhood. Popcov seems to have not shown that based on you know interviews that come out nothing there's been there was no red flags, you know, and his mom has never bought anything up At least we don't know anything yet

Starting point is 00:35:49 Popcov himself claims he never you know had any weird thoughts didn't have any weird childhood incidents never intended to become a Serocular never fantasized about it again according to him. He says quote it just happened I just felt I wanted to kill a woman. I was giving a lift to in my car I just felt I wanted to kill a woman. I was giving a lift to in my car. Again, emotionally dead. I no plan to kill. I bored one day at work. I still do a good job. I still have positive feedback. I decided to kill woman before take bus home and eat more old soup. The name of this first woman is his first victim. victim doesn't seem to have been released yet. He doesn't name her in interviews. If I had to guess, I'd probably go with Alina. Alina.

Starting point is 00:36:30 While we don't know the name of each and every victim, we do know a little bit about how the werewolf killed from his prison interviews. Popkov would make sure his targets were women who were alone and often those who were drunk. He would use his uniform to either make them feel safe, which he did when he was, you know, still a firefighter, or when he started working again for the police shortly after the 1992 attack, he would also just make them feel like he

Starting point is 00:36:52 could arrest them. You know, he's thinking about arresting them, but might let them off easy. He put on his police uniform, Parker's car outside discos, restaurants, he'd wait for some poor, a nebriated woman to come wobbling outside, and then he would lure her into his car with the promise of a ride home. Now, just a piece of shit using his badge to brutalize instead of to protect.

Starting point is 00:37:13 He would sometimes tell his victims, I could arrest you, but I'm feeling charitable. Get in, then I'll take you home. And doing this was way easier to pull off in Russia in the 90s than in America, because you didn't have to have a good reason to arrest anyone at that time, right? The police in Russia in the 90s were corrupt is shit. They may very well still be pretty corrupt now, but more corrupt than if you told some lady

Starting point is 00:37:35 that, you know, you're thinking about arresting her, she was going to take you serious, right? She knew that she could be arrested for virtually anything. There would then have to be, she didn't have to do something to be arrested. As far as what he would use to kill, the choice was just based on whatever was handy, whatever would just get the job done and would inflict a lot of pain. He would say, the choice of weapons for killing was always casual. I never prepared the beforehand to commit the murder. I would use in the object that it was in car knife, bat, then according to investigators, he would rape the victim post-mortem. And while Popkov has admitted to a lot of the murders, obviously, that it convicted

Starting point is 00:38:12 of a lot of confessions, I do find it interesting that he hasn't confessed to the rapes. He tries to maintain that the sex itself was always consensual. He would say in a 2017 interview, my genetic material was found on the close of victims. So I was automatically accused of rape, but I will say 100%. None of the victims were raped. If I had sexual intercourse with anybody, it was voluntarily. So weird like he didn't, he didn't try to denounce that, yes, I fucking brutally murdered the women. He's like, he was never like, nah, I didn't do that. He was just like, yeah, but the sex part, that was, they wanted me. Oh, no, no, they fucking, they wanted it. I don't think you can have voluntary sex

Starting point is 00:38:52 with the, with the body woman you've just killed. He was for sure rapist. There are numerous articles citing investigators stating that he raped many of the women savagely while they were still alive with various blunt objects. Yeah, his, his, Emma was just kind of chaotic, you know, just grab whatever's handy, and then just brutally rape and kill, and then just leave him in the woods or nearer, you dump him down the side of the road or whatever. Early on in his killing spree, Popkov Nick, nicknamed himself the cleaner, stating that it had become his mission to rid the Russian streets of quote, loose women. I had the double life in one life I was ordinary person in my other life I committed murders which I carefully concealed from

Starting point is 00:39:31 everyone realizing this was a criminal offense. I love how I have to say that. Listen, I sharp guy. I like to kill people, but I also realize that killing if you do not know is quite illegal. That is why I not openly be killed. That is why I hide. In the perfect world, I go to mall with family, kill Kashir, kill a lady in parking lot, kill lady at Hotdog stand, and laugh with family. But society crazy, People have rules and things. Classic rationalization with this whole cleaner thing by the way too. So

Starting point is 00:40:12 many murderers do this. Convince themselves that what they're doing is something noble. Right, they're not they're not raping and taking the lives of innocent women to satisfy their own extremely dark sexual desires. They're just doing a little cleaning, right? Don't you get it? Just a little spring cleaning, taking out some trash, washing the car, getting rid of some old underwear, withholding it, throwing out some old expired cans of soup in the back of the cupboard, raping and killing some women with a bat, dropping off some pants, don't fit anymore, the thrift store, you know, like a little cleaning. This is how he described his victims in another interview. He said,

Starting point is 00:40:44 the victims were those who on the company's by men, at night, without a certain purpose were on the streets behaving carelessly, who were not afraid to enter into conversation with me, get in my car, and then go for drive in search of adventures, for sake of entertainment, ready to drink alcohol, and have sexual intercourse with me. Not all women became victims, but those of a certain of entertainment ready to drink alcohol and have sexual intercourse with me. Not all women became victims, but those of a certain negative behavior had desire to

Starting point is 00:41:12 teach and punish. Oh, nugget. He's a teacher. He's a teacher. He's a tough teacher. He's a tough teacher. Let's be clear. But he's a teacher.

Starting point is 00:41:23 He either passes tests, you pass a class, you know, because you're a good virtuous woman Or you get the hammer or you get the knife Unreal, but some people are just capable of rationalizing always blows me away. I try to teach Good education hard to come by in Siberia Some girls some women and not good students. They not learn how to be lady So I take it on self to work is sort of Some girls, some women, not good students. They not learn how to be lady. So I take it on self to work is sort of how do you say

Starting point is 00:41:53 freelance tutor? Like popular American film my fair lady Think about professor Higgins take it on self to teach a liza do little to be proper lady. I'm not much different. I say stuff like you like drink vodka and call with me behind the bar and the woman say yes, maybe for a minute. Then I rape and kill with bat. That's not how lady handles self. Never getting call with man. You bring it on self. I offer less than you want to rest. Maybe I'm not take to jail drive home and they say okay I take right home then I stab in punk in the right and kill a lady never get in car with man you lose woman you do this to self But maybe sometime I say

Starting point is 00:42:37 Come with me we go drinking wood together and she say I hear with husband I like say leave husband or I take to jail. And she turned and runs for life. Well, then I yell at woman clever girl, you true lady. You passed this. Then maybe I don't kill good students must get reward to keep learning. The more pop of killed and didn't get caught, the more brazen he became with his killings. After a few years, he started picking up women while actually on shift. Just, you know, at work, He became with his killings. After a few years, he started picking up women while actually on shift.

Starting point is 00:43:05 Just, you know, at work, showing his face and shops together with the future victims, using confiscated weapons taken from actual crime scenes for the murders, and then just returning those weapons to the crime scenes hours later, fucking crazy. I sound like those investigators were just, really don't have a bang up job.

Starting point is 00:43:22 You know, someone's able to just slip a weapon in and out of a crime scene and use it for another fucking murder. Oh my God, what is happening in this country? A year or so into his killing spree, rumors of a serial killer began to circulate through Angarsk, but just like we learned with the Chikotilo and Chessboard killer Russian sucks,

Starting point is 00:43:41 there were just a lot of Russian police who did not give a fuck about disappearing Russian women, like did not fucking care. Some of them maybe didn't want to involve federal investigators, maybe they were just some of them being lazy, not caring, but they just they refused to want to unify all these mountain murders into a single case for the first couple of years. They just wrote them off as mob killings. Just mob killings, it's a territorial war, they've been raging the city, you know how mobsters like to rape women's bodies in the woods, typical mob behavior. There have been witnesses and survivors, and then still the evidence was ignored. We'll talk about that in a bit.

Starting point is 00:44:14 It's fucking insane what they ignored. And I'm not trying to pick on Russia. I mean, I am picking on Russia, but I mean, I guess this type of thing has happened in America too, generally just not as recently. You know, there was that whole shitty investigative work that went on in Houston in early 70s. Like we learned about during the Dean Coral Candyman suck. Excuse me.

Starting point is 00:44:34 In 1998, just like many of the killers we've studied on time suck, the werewolf almost got caught. He should have been caught. If like, fucking one police officer over there in Angus would have just not been terrible. I feel like they could have been caught. If the, if like fucking one police officer over there, an angus would have just not been terrible. I feel like they could have caught him. He attacked a woman later referred to in the press as Svetlana M.

Starting point is 00:44:52 Finally, a woman not named Alina. Svetlana survived a ruthless attack by this mother fucker and recently spoke about her ordeal about how the werewolf wrecked her life. She says she was a 17-year-old virgin back in 1998 when she was returning home in the cold from a friend's house in Angarsk. A police car stopped and the driver offered her a lift. She said, I thought it was safe to go with a policeman. I was so cold from head to toe so I accepted.

Starting point is 00:45:20 She remembers that he drove past her house and then she asked him where we going. The next thing she recalled was him repeatedly banging my head against a tree. She said it seemed to go on for an eternity. She had it I was shaking. He wanted to rape me. He was mute. He didn't respond to anything. He said nothing.

Starting point is 00:45:36 I crawled out from under him and ran to his car. I was hoping to find car keys, but I failed. He caught me and I tripped down some steps. She was wounded further and then left for dead. She was found by some passers-by who then refused to help her. Fucking, no, no, I'm sorry. I jumped ahead a little bit. She didn't pass that.

Starting point is 00:45:55 She was wounded, right? She ran away from the car, passers-by, see her, and then they refused to help her. Fucking Russia. She then sees Popkov's car approaching. He's got back on the car. He's chasin' her down. I approached her through some bushes by the side of the main road.

Starting point is 00:46:10 He gets out of the car, chasin' her down, and tax her again, leaves her for dead. And then she says, the next thing I knew, I woke up in a morque. Woke up, sat down, spotted a label on the toe of a corpse next to me. So they didn't like fucking, I guess checker pulse or anything. There's like, hey, let's see if we find the girl in

Starting point is 00:46:28 wood. She looked, she looked at, listen, I not get paid a lot to be corner. I look at her, I think, eh, probably did. So I put in body back and turned out, this is funny part. She not dead. So, you know, so that part's good. Yeah, she said she wakes up in a hospital later. She's listed as being 25 by the people to hospital. Her mom finds her rescues her. It's like, now she's 17. Half her hair was torn out. This guy was brutal. Why he called him the wearable face? Just fucking savage attacks. He tore out, quote, half her hair during the attack left her paralyzed for a while down one side of her body. When she was discharged a few months later, fucking savage attacks he tore out quote half her hair during the attack left her paralyzed for a while down one side of her body when she was discharged a few months later her hair

Starting point is 00:47:10 their group back in and turn gray 20 years later uh... yeah in in 2018 this now thirty seven or woman has said his attack aged me by seven years my brain was damaged if not for him i would have had a normal life had a family and given birth to great kids this poor woman not one of his his 78 known murder victims, but still someone severely brutalized by the werewolf. And then here's, and then, yeah. So she almost, if people would listen to her, he would have been caught.

Starting point is 00:47:36 This one of the police investigators, later said she was unconscious because of severe head injuries. And this is not an investigator who investigates at the time. This is someone who investigated this whole rash of serial killings later and then this guy nika lye kittie of this investigator says police did not start a criminal investigation for a long time despite numerous complaints from the girl's mother finally svetlana would be questioned and she would tell investigators in great detail about this rapist policeman and about his car.

Starting point is 00:48:06 So she's able to identify everything. The police don't believe her story. Don't believe her when she identifies pop-cuff a picture of him. She's like, fucking this guy. This guy did this to me for sure. Police go and question pop-cuff and he laughs it off. They question his wife, Alina, who gives him an alibi. Uh, so she, you know, she had to know something was going on. Gives it out and then they just decide not to take it further. And they could have done a DNA test. They could have, they had stuff from the hospital, from her. They had, you know, like, like a semen or whatever, like, you know, like from the crime,

Starting point is 00:48:41 from the rape. They, they could have tested for DNA. They just don't. Uh, investigator, Kiathev, later, later know, like from the crime, from the rape, they could have tested for DNA, they just don't. Investigator Kiyotev later said, Svetlana clearly confirmed it was him, but the police trusted McHale's wife, she composed an alibi for him, and the criminal investigation was over

Starting point is 00:48:57 and sent to the archives. And then he would just continue to murder for, you know, at least a couple more years, if not for roughly another decade. I mean mean just fucking think about this this this young girl this teen is found naked in the woods she's been badly beaten she's been clearly raped and the police initially don't investigate at all like uh... her mom has to harass them into even doing any investigation

Starting point is 00:49:22 uh... i went into the suck you know expecting not to hear a lot of good things about cyber and i gotta say, not, not disappointed. And then when they do investigate, they don't even do a simple DNA test to see if the guy she's saying, fucking that guy, that guy did it. You know what? I got so upset about that I canceled my flight to Angarsk. I was going to take the fam and now I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to the fucking clock piece you. By 1998, it's obvious to Siberian authorities that they do have a serial killer on their hands. Russian investigators do end up constructing a bit of a psychological profile of who the suspect could be. They surmise. This is so

Starting point is 00:50:00 weird to me. They surmise that he may be either a metal worker, a real-world worker, a real road worker, a heating station engineer, or a bus driver. They're also convinced that he may have been a mortuary worker because some of the bodies have been found in your cemeteries. It doesn't say exactly how they came up with these job possibilities, maybe just based on like, I mean, the bus thing, I guess, you know,

Starting point is 00:50:25 like you're driving around town, but like heating station engineer, I guess maybe you have to travel different, it's so weird. How did they arrive at those two possibilities? They seem very different, heating station engineer or bus driver. Based on the evidence,

Starting point is 00:50:39 we find that many crime scene, we feel strongly that killer has strong working knowledge of heating station. This guy, we feel good. This guy, no heat. He live for heat. He like it hot. He like it hot, hot, hot. We know he, he like boilers, steamers. He know how systems work. He know how heating, ventilating, air conditioning work. He, this guy for sure understand automation systems. He understands diesel engine, turbine, generator, piping, compressed gas.

Starting point is 00:51:10 He knows stuff like back-of-hand. He like electricity. That's what we know. He like power. Or we thinking also, maybe he's not like heat. Maybe he drive bus. Maybe he bus driver. What the fuck are you guys doing over there?

Starting point is 00:51:25 Despite authorities, putting more energy into capturing him, which probably wasn't a lot of energy, he doesn't bother to even try this, this is said later in our interviews. Said he didn't even try to evade authorities. He made no attempts to try to hide what he was doing because he knew he didn't need to. Russian investigators were especially disorganized after the recent fall of the Soviet Union in December of 1991, the werewolf was able to allude and evade detection simply by being a little more organized than the people investigating him. It doesn't take much. He knows their strengths, he knows their weaknesses, he knows they're just pretty fun week in general. He knew not to say something that

Starting point is 00:52:02 might get him caught, he knew not like stand up in the middle of a police meeting be like hey guys i did it for sure like look at the blood on hand look at the blood on hand just go ahead test blood it it's from woman for sure i kill all the women i like it uh... he knew not to do that because that's might arouse suspicion uh... russian psychiatrist Alexander grition also explain why it was hard to catch pop of he said there are two groups of maniacs Russian psychiatrist Alexander Grishin also explained why it was hard to catch Pofkov.

Starting point is 00:52:25 He said there are two groups of maniacs. I think that's kind of weird too. Like this is very different than American psychology. You wouldn't hear a forensic psychologist in the state sit it. Hey everybody, we need to talk about who this guy might be. After studying psychology for many, many years, we know that there's two kinds of maniacs. There's the guy with the straight jacket and his fucking hair coming straight out of his head and he's, and he's bugged, and he's like, ah, ah, ah, ah, and he's like, fucking

Starting point is 00:52:52 running down the street with his dick flopping around. That guy is, we're like, yep, all right, keep your, keep your eye on him. He's a maniac for sure. He's a, he's a, he's a, what we call it, obvious maniac. But there's another guy that comes down his crazy hair in the morning and makes an attempt to have his eyes look not as bugged out. And he won't wear a straight jacket. And he will just, he'll quietly be like, ah, well, my name, like he keeps it quiet. And those are that, that's the difference. That's the two. Um, no, this guy says there are two groups of maniacs,

Starting point is 00:53:25 organized and non organized, non organized maniacs are easy to catch. Their crimes are quickly solved. Their people with psychiatric pathologies who live in their own world. They're hiding from people, often untidy. I love that too. How do you recognize an organized maniac?

Starting point is 00:53:43 They often are untidy. If you see guy on a street with short-knit tucked in and it's shit on pants, you can look and say he unorganized maniac. If he have vanilla folders in a dresser, they turn out to alphabetical order. We know he unorganized maniac. And he says organized maniacs. Popkov is a good example. Our people with high mental abilities socially adapted, often with families, they find convenient jobs with secure, which secures them and gives time for crimes. It's

Starting point is 00:54:16 a hard job to get such a maniac. He says it's a hard job to spot such a person. Even police enrollment tests are not good enough. Oh, fuck yeah, I'm just for sure they're not. You're rigorous police tests. Do you like Westridge jacket and run down straight with dig flaw in health? No, you sound like a good police officer kind of the. So the wear wolf keeps killing. Before we look into some of his additional murders,

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Starting point is 00:56:51 A visitor from the Siberian time spoke to the sister of Tatiana, Victoria, Chaknievia, in 2013. She said, it happened 15 years ago, sorry, I was trying to laugh just the way that these quotes were written. It happened 15 year ago, it's how it's actually written. But the pain does not go away. It was me who presented Tanya a ticket to go to a concert.

Starting point is 00:57:09 She was killed after attending it. That's Tatiiana's sister was married with a small child, her husband Igor, who was then 24, was against her going to the concert, but she went anyways with a girlfriend, Yulia, who was 19. Then on the morning of October 29th, Igor calls Victoria, saying, Tanya, Tatiana had not come back home. Victoria says, I got truly scared. It was the first time she had never done this before. There were no mobile phones at that time. You could only call Yulia's parents. We could only

Starting point is 00:57:39 call Yulia's parents thinking, Tanya must have stayed overnight, but there for some reason. But Yulia's parents said she had not come home either. They went to the police, were told they should wait three days before the young woman could be listed as missing. That night a shepherd found their naked bodies near a megged, a small village close to Angarsk. She said, it was 1 a.m. when Tanya's husband Igor and I came to the police, we did not tell her mother yet.

Starting point is 00:58:05 Igor was absolutely devastated and only repeated. She was killed. She was killed. I was shocked too. But I simply could not believe it and replied, what are you talking about? Later we were told that their bodies were found next to each other. Both girls were raped, cut, and chopped. Fuck man.

Starting point is 00:58:21 The experts told us that at first they were killed and then raped. My elder brother Oleg went to the morgue to identify Tanya. He had flown from Moscow immediately. He felt sick when he saw the body. She was so mutilated. He was almost green when he came out of there. He could not say a word. I did not dare to go in and look.

Starting point is 00:58:43 They later discovered Tanya and Julia had gone for a quick drink with friends. They were offered a lift by a police officer. Victoria said, only the fact that this bastard, when his police was in a police uniform, explains why Tanya got into his car. Many people attended Tanya's funeral. It felt as if the whole town was there. Our poor mother lost her consciousness several times. She needed a lot of medicine to cope.

Starting point is 00:59:06 Whew, and then after Popcups arrest in 2012, Victoria realizes she vaguely knew this guy. They had both been involved in the same biathlon years later, or years earlier. She said, I was struck with horror when I saw the picture of this maniac in the paper and online, my sister's killer was looking into my eyes. I immediately felt as if I'd met him, looking at him I could hardly breathe. Some minutes later I looked at him another time and thought, oh my god, I know him.

Starting point is 00:59:33 I was so shocked. I even took a knife and cut his face in the newspaper I needed to let this horror out of me. I remembered him as a tall slim man. He was always alone with a slippery and shifty glance. I remembered him as a tall slim man. He was always alone with a slippery and shifty glance. I think such people just must not live. This beast took the life of my sister who had so many happy years in front of her. I cried a lot that day, but it is time to be quiet and just wait. And this, you know, with interview at Tick Place

Starting point is 00:59:58 during one of his trials, he will be punished by law and criminals in jail will punish him too. Yeah, that'll probably happen. I am sure he will pay for all the murders one day. Yeah, and this fucker has now been convicted of, you know, 78 crimes like this. At least 78 families have gone through this kind of pain because of this one piece of shit. I think about that sometimes these sucks, just a scope of their damage expands so far

Starting point is 01:00:20 beyond their actual, you their actual murder victims. Such a bummer this guy can't be tortured and killed. In July of 1999, another victim would live through one of the werewolves attacks. If Jean-Yah Petrovza was 18 in July of 1999 when she met Popkov who was then 35. She said, my boyfriend had invited me to a restaurant and we left about midnight. He wanted me to go to his place, but I strongly refused and asked him to take me home. Then he got angry and shouted that I could go home on my own. I do not a gentleman move. So she started walking just like with Svetlana, a police officer offered her a lift. He was playing clothes, but showed Evgenia, his officer's ID.

Starting point is 01:01:08 She got on his car. He drove towards her home. She said, my place was very close. Some three minutes drive away, and we were quickly there. Instead of stopping, he accelerated the car and drove away. I began to scream. I was so lost, I did not know what to do. I could not stop screaming, and he hit me on the head, and I lost consciousness. All the rest I remember is bits and pieces, but I can screaming and he hit me on the head and I lost consciousness.

Starting point is 01:01:29 All the rest I remember is bits and pieces, but I can recall that he drove me to the forest. He got out of the car and tried to drag me out too, having hit me strongly on the head one more time. I vividly remember his face, looking like a beast, and I got completely scared. When Propkov was told by state, after getting caught years later that this woman and Svetlana had both survived his attacks, he's such a piece of shit he was upset he was annoyed. He couldn't believe that any of his victims, many of whom he'd attacked with acts as hammers knives, screwdriver spades and more had survived. A prosecutor said after his first life sentence was handed down in 2012, he clearly loved

Starting point is 01:02:02 killing. Some victims had 145 or even 170 knife wounds. This prosecutor said that popgov stated that he felt satisfied when he felt their pain as they were stabbed. Mother fucker, man, echoes a chica teelo here. Back to Evgenia surviving her attack. I'm butchering her name. Her name makes no sense to me on any level. She said, what happened was that people picking mushrooms found me in the fourth the next day. This is how my mother told me. My mother explained I was completely naked

Starting point is 01:02:35 when I was found this bastard undressed and raped me. And then thought he had strangled me to death. I have no idea how I lived. There is still a scar on my neck after the strangling, but thank God it's almost invisible for other people. Luckily, unlike Savannah, she was able to gradually rebuild her life. She says I have a good family now. I am married with two kids. I have a son and a daughter. I had never told my husband what I had to go through, but I must say I had been living under a huge pressure inside. The story just did not go away. I felt a great relief when I first told my story to the police and to my husband.

Starting point is 01:03:07 Now I feel better each time I tell my story. I went to court because it helped me get rid of my ordeal. I lived with it for many years. Now I feel so much better. Still, I have to say that there is such a huge pain in my heart. I can't imagine I will be completely cured of it one day. He should be executed. Shot dead.

Starting point is 01:03:22 A lot of victims, uh, you statements about that for various people like relatives of victims, stuff like everyone's like, fuck this guy, no life in prison, kill him. Uh, in August of 1999, pop code would offer a young medical student arrived. Uh, she would not escape. Uh, she would be another young woman with a bright future. He would snuff out. Uh, he offered her a free, uh, a free, you know, lady lesson. She failed. So he took her to the woods and he, this one, he chopped her fucking head off and then stabbed her body another six times for stuffing her down a garbage shoot. So much rage this dude.

Starting point is 01:03:54 Later that month, he approached 20 year old Maria, Multicovah. Maria was leaving work from a water pumping station when the pop-cuff offered her a ride. She failed his test as well. He drove around the Siberian woods, killed her and then raped her corpse. In June of 2000, he took two more victims, 35-year-old Marina Lyskina, 37-year-old Liliya Pashkovaskaya. Marina and Liliya worked at the same shop.

Starting point is 01:04:18 They left to see Marina's sister after work. They worked late, started to walk home around midnight. They were going to call her get a taxi, but then changed their minds. It was warm, so they decided to walk. And then pop-up rolled up in his police cruiser, offered the women a ride home. And then he brutalized both women in the woods and left to go home. Then he realized he had dropped his badge and left of the crime scene.

Starting point is 01:04:37 Drown back, found out when he got there that one of these women was still alive, and he later said, I found that the token badge right away, but sold it's one of the woman was still breathing. I was shocked by the fact that she was still alive. I finished her with a shovel. Still it's fucking brutal. These two women were buried in closed coffins. Their bodies had been so terribly mutilated that the Russian tradition of having an open casket funeral had to be disregarded.

Starting point is 01:05:04 Marina had a 14-year-old daughter lily had two kids 12-year-old daughter three-year-old son it is that is fucking ruined two families one night surely after these murders a popular target targeted his own daughters a music teacher uh... he said her core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core core This was found in the forest along with the body of another woman. My daughter had asked me to give her money because the school was collecting to organize funerals. I gave it to her. I can't wait to speak, so fucking cold.

Starting point is 01:05:32 She wants money for funerals, so I give her money, but then I think, I don't care about funerals. Why I give money? So I kill, I take money back. Maybe sneaking raping. Then I get to break. I take, you know, I have, I know have to take Ikatorina to music lessons.

Starting point is 01:05:48 It really work out well for me. Pop-up then quit working as a police officer again. Finds better pain work in the security business, the private security business, and it gets work as a guard for the Angarsk Oil and Chemical Company, most Russian company name ever. I work for Angarsk Oil and Chemical Company. Most Russian company name ever. I work for Angarsk Oil and Chemical Company. We make chemical and oil in Angarsk.

Starting point is 01:06:12 Then in 2000 after we became a security guard, some of the articles on pop-gussade, the murder stopped. They did not. Adding to the kind of online research confusion, If you look into this yourself, there's a lot of confusion with his articles because some of the articles get written after his initial arrests where he was charged with 22 murders. Those murders stopped in the year 2000, but then he would be charged with nearly 60 additional murders and those murders continued up until 2010. And he may have kept killing for another two years after that.

Starting point is 01:06:45 Hard to say. He started to travel for work sometime before 2010, and he ended up traveling far away from Angars, crevado all over Siberia, all the way to the Pacific Ocean, so there's a chance he killed in other places. If he did stop killing before he was caught in 2012, like he claims, the reason he stopped is so very strange. He claims that he picked up syphilis from one of his victims, sometime around 2000, and then he was ashamed to go to the doctor

Starting point is 01:07:11 and then he didn't get it treated. And he claims that because he didn't get it treated, he became impotent. What the fuck? So he has another stabby Russian serial killer with a limp shamecock now, except whereas Chikotilo's flaccid Ween angered him in the murdering.

Starting point is 01:07:27 Popcov's flaccid Ween seems to have made him not kill. His murderous urges seem to have left with his hate boners. Right? It's what is big deal. We both have soft shamecock. But only Chica Tilo makes soft men hard with his angry floppy Ween. Popcov probably not even rostle. He, he not even

Starting point is 01:07:46 know how to drag strength from shame. For the next dozen years, murdering more women or not, the werewolf lived as a free man. Remained, married, kept raising his daughter, he caught the rena who by 2012 was a 24 year old teacher who's still living in Angarsk, still close with her father. And then then finally this piece of shit gets caught. On June 23, 2012, Popkov would finally be arrested in Vledis Vostok, a city on the Pacific coast of Siberia, roughly 4,000 kilometers, almost 2,500 miles away from Angarsk.

Starting point is 01:08:19 Why was he there? Because he knew he was about to get caught and he's trying to escape. The unsolved murders in and around Angarsk from over a decade previous had been reexamined, Russian police, now a little better than they were in the 90s. As part of this new investigation, 3,500 police officers and former officers

Starting point is 01:08:37 from around Angarsk had been forced to give DNA samples. Then the breakthrough, like the breakthrough that led to this in the case came when detectives noticed tire tracks from the type of car that officers were driving in the 90s, near several of the victims, you know, bodies and they found this out looking at photographs of the various crime scenes. Just prior to Popkov's arrest, Russian police had narrowed down their suspect list to 600 officers. Popkov had came in, was forced to supply a saliva sample.

Starting point is 01:09:07 That's when he realized he was going to be caught and he attempted to flee to China. And that's why he was in a vlada vlada vlada vostok buying that car. And then of course, Popkov's sample is a match. It matched him seamen. He left behind on some of his victims. After getting arrested, Popkov told authorities,, I could not anticipate examination of DNA. I was born in another century. Now there are such modern technologies, methods,

Starting point is 01:09:32 but not earlier. If we have not got to that level of genetic examination, then I would not be sitting in front of you. Fucked out, he's right, man. Just like with the Golden State Killer, had it not been for the forensic science advances concerning DNA matching, he would still be free.

Starting point is 01:09:50 Getting ready to hang out with his first grand kid, his daughter, he cut the rena, is now pregnant. After his arrest, former officers, he worked with, were shocked, basically everyone was shocked. When I read about him in the press, I literally choked, said officer Demetri Valuov. Because I used to work with him and I thought I knew him. He was an absolutely normal man. He liked Biaatolon. Once on duty he shot a

Starting point is 01:10:11 rapist during an arrest. There was an investigation and he was not punished. The chiefs considered he had taken fair action. Another officer, Sergei Galovkin said, Galovkin said, I used to work with closely with him for five years. He knew lots of jokes and stories and could be the soul of the party. His daughter, Ekaterina, another victim, also shocked the officers arrest when interviewed she said, I do not believe any of this. I always felt myself as a daddy's girl for 25 years. We were together hand in hand. We walked road bikes, went to shops.

Starting point is 01:10:43 He met me from school. We both collect model cars So we have the same hobby That's what we are dealing. It's funny to me what what people will point to when they're trying to convince themselves of something that they know Probably deep down is not true. You know, just he could not have done it. He collects muscle cars. He like ride bikes Who like ride bikes and collects muscle cars and With author and stab in the right, but it's not even possible. Porti Catherina continued to try and wish her new reality away saying, I wanted to be

Starting point is 01:11:11 this is another interview, I wanted to be a criminologist, so I read a book with tips of how investigators catch serial killers and there were also basic classifications about murderers. Daddy does not fit any of these classifications. He doesn't look like Semeniac. Daddy does not fit any of these classifications. He doesn't look like Somaniac. They really hung up about like maniacs in Siberia. He does listen. He could look at him. How could he do? How could he do? His hair is not standing straight up. His eyes not bugging. There's not slumber on face. He's not in straight jacket. He is penis not flopping about as he run down middle streets screaming. He can't do it. His wife, Alina, she stood by him all the way through his initial murder convictions and life sends. This is crazy. She said, we met on the Monday

Starting point is 01:11:57 and Tuesday before sentencing and discussed his situation. He already knew that it would be a life sentence. He denied everything. Even when our daughter, Katya, even when Katya asked him, he said, Katya, you understand that all these allegations are fairy tales. It is the system. I have worked within it. I know the system well.

Starting point is 01:12:15 We've been married for 28 years. And then she said, if I suspected something wrong, of course, I would divorce him. But I support him. I believe him. If he were to be released right now, I would not say a word and we would continue to live together. I love him. I support him. I believe him. If he were to be released right now, I would not say a word and we would continue to live together. I love him. I support him. He did not cause me any harm

Starting point is 01:12:29 for all these years. I felt safe with him. Didn't cause any harm. Did he not also give you syphilis? His mother still thinks he's innocent. She says, I cannot believe he walked alone to the forest in a police uniform. Where was the blood? His clothes should have been covered in blood, or if he had tried to wash the blood away, the clothes would have been wet. His wife would have definitely noticed all of that. He loves his family, cherishes his daughter,

Starting point is 01:12:52 and he dreamed about grandchildren. He would not have done this. He will remain my son until my death. He studied well, and from the very beginning, he was an excellent pupil. He loved to cook pancakes or something like that, and he was very excellent pupil. He loved to cook pancakes or something like that. And he was very neat like me.

Starting point is 01:13:09 I know this is sad, I do love the weird pancake detail. He could not have killed women. He make pancakes. Maybe, listen, I know for sure, I know for fact. He make pancakes or if not pancakes, something pancake-like. Maybe waffle, maybe crepe He for sure make something in the dough area of breakfast at least at least toast

Starting point is 01:13:33 He make at least toast Who make at least toast and kill women and forest At first pop-up confessed to only three murders. The DNA evidence tied him to. But then his police continued to investigate the number rose to the 22 for which he would be convicted and sentenced in January of 2015. He was initially suspected before his conviction

Starting point is 01:13:58 on 22 counts of killing 29 women, 25 of those women are aged 19 to 28, four of teenagers, 35 and 40, all the victims lived in Angarsk. After getting a conviction on 22 of the 29, as this conviction is happening, the trial is winding up, numerous additional interrogations are bringing about more unsolved murders and Russian authorities realize that the true body counts much higher than the 29 murders they'd originally suspected him of. Later in 2015, pop-up would be charged with an additional 47 murders with another 12 murders still pending. Of those 59 additional murders, there would be enough evidence to tie him to 56 killings. He would confess to 59. Those victims ranged in age from 17 to 38. And then

Starting point is 01:14:46 on December 10, 2018, after another trial near Angusk, he was convicted of 56 further murders. The three other alleged killings, a woman who disappeared just couldn't be confirmed, also convicted of 11 rapes. He was given a second life sentence and his police pension was taken away so his wife could no longer receive that money. Uh, following his second conviction of numerous murders, state prosecutor Alexander Schikniv, said in December that popkov will now appeal his sentence in the hope of retaining his police pension worth 24,000 rubles a month, roughly $361 on the grounds that he had cooperated with the investigators and a deal to deal.

Starting point is 01:15:30 They told him they would give him his pension and still the fucking balls on this guy. He admits to killing over 80 women Right and he's demanding like listen. I may listen. I make a good on deal. I still I need pension I need I still need pensions for a family He's not gonna get it and that will take us out of today's time suck timeline Good job soldier. You made it back. Barely. All right. Well, despite despite my frustration with the state of Russian journalism, I do think there was still enough info, right? For an interesting look into Mikhail's mind of madness. I do think there was still enough info, right? For an interesting look into Mikhail's mind of madness. After his most recent sentencing, he supposedly bragged to other cellmates that he had more

Starting point is 01:16:10 murder convictions than the butcher of Rostov on their Chikotilo. Chikotilo convicted of 52 murders. Yes, Popkov's 78 convictions do make him the most prolific convicted murderer, excuse me in Russian history. And he may have killed more, we don't know. Some authorities believe that he knows about other murders. He apparently had this like almost photographic kind of memory for his crime scenes. He can remember like victims for many years.

Starting point is 01:16:37 He'll remember their tattoos. Remember exactly where they were, exactly how he killed them. They think he may have other murder stored away in his brain that he's just going to kind of ration out confessions later. In case he needs him to avoid being sent to some kind of penal colony where he could be forced to do some hard labor. Right now he's serving the beginning of his sentence in solitary confinement, first 15 years of his life sentence in solitary confinement. And he supposedly being held Currently in a notorious Russian prison known as the black dolphin

Starting point is 01:17:10 That prison got a strange unofficial name from a prisoner constructed sculpture to pick them a black dolphin set in front of the main entrance It's a prison far far far from Angusk north of Iran Iran just across the border from Kazakhstan The prison was the focus of a national geographic documentary. The basically calling this prison the Russia's worst prison to deserve for Russia's worst criminals. It's one of Russia's oldest prisons, opened in 1745. It's full of serial killers, cannibals, pedophiles, terrorists, home to 700 inmates, roughly

Starting point is 01:17:42 700 inmates, and 900 guards and prison staff. Since 2000, all of the inmates there are serving life sentences. Inmates are fed only soup and bread four times a day, and there is no TV or other modern luxury, so it's good he's in a fucking shitty prison. The dolphin is so harsh that many prisoners want Russia to bring back capital punishment, because that would be more humane. In addition to pop-cowves, convicted cann convicted cannibal Vladimir Nikolayev is in there. This guy was arrested in 1996 when cops discovered a pan of roasted human meat cooking on his

Starting point is 01:18:11 stove. Another dish roasted in the oven. The 700 inmates currently incarcerated there have killed a total of more than 4,000 people over five murders per inmate. And supposedly only one prisoner has ever escaped from this place. Alexander, Alexandrov, some Russian special forces soldier arrested on terrorism charges related to a separatist conflict in eastern Ukraine. And that guy escaped in 2016. And as far as I can tell, still free. That's fucking nuts. Can you imagine being locked inside that place, man, with the worst

Starting point is 01:18:41 of the worst? In the National Geographic documentary, prison guard, Dennis, Avisuk said, the main crime committed by the configs here is murder, but we also have maniacs. They love to wear maniacs, pedophiles and terrorists to, to call them people. It makes your tongue bend backwards just to say it. I have never felt any sympathy for them. Yeah, I bet not hard to feel sympathy for somebody like Mikhail Popkov. Before a few final thoughts, I want to share, let's find out what thoughts the idiots of the internet have about this dude.

Starting point is 01:19:24 The video I looked at today to find some juicy comments is titled Russian pseudo killer found guilty of 56 more murders posted by CBS on December 10th, 2018. Uh, the comments under the announcement of popgov being sensed are really, uh, I don't know, all over the place. Uh, Alessia site posts in all caps. I just don't get it. People who have murdered are still walking around and the people who get a speeding ticket

Starting point is 01:19:49 or whatever minor thing, even not so, or in jail. What a backwards world. What? Is that a reference to some movie or something? Like what the fuck is she talking about? This video's 48 seconds long. And all it does is state what he did and how he was convicted and how he's in this prison.

Starting point is 01:20:08 He wasn't, he wasn't like, oh, he's in prison for life. And there's no talk of people going to jail for speeding tickets or anything minor. Like did she even watch one second of the video? Did my son post this? This seems like the absurd nonsense, my son kind of would write.

Starting point is 01:20:23 He's, we're always constantly asking him, like what, what are you talking about? we have no idea what you're talking about and then you just laugh since there's more nonsense uh... random top compilation posts what the fuck boss f this man should be decapitated and then i am eight replies with what about hillary no bomb fine

Starting point is 01:20:42 fucking trolls they they got a constantly keep trying to rob people of about political stuff I'm a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit Unless regardless of the topic someone is shitting on liberals or conservatives or blaming the Jews for something You know and specifically they have to say quote unquote the Jews And be posts B.S. News Why are you reporting about a piece of shit serial killer in Russia?

Starting point is 01:21:16 America doesn't care send it to Trump with love. It's probably a friend of his fuck what? I'm amazed how many people just can't shut the fuck up about politics. This video has nothing to do, nothing to do with any politics at all. Uh, Pastor Vincent de Silva, uh, post interesting comments. He says, watching here in Brazil, exclamation points, Mary Christmas. But what? He really hear, hear father? In the comments section under a video about the worst Russian serial killer ever caught

Starting point is 01:21:48 That's where you want to try to spread some Christmas cheer. I mean, I guess maybe it's dark and it needs I don't fucking hey guys Hope you're enjoying this video about rape and murder. Just wanted to pop it and say Merry Christmas I am eight shows back up now posting and let me guess. He worked for the Clinton Foundation. Son of a bitch. Relentless. Honor AK asks, what is his religion? What, what? What does that have to do with anything?

Starting point is 01:22:15 Bad attitude has some fun with such a random question, giving a random answer, posting Mexican, right? What is his religion? Mexican, and then he left. And then SBS 13 gets even more random posting Jedi. Yeah, fuck it. Why not? Like, let's just all say whatever.

Starting point is 01:22:31 Just leave comments like Skittles or Tasty or Moths are kind of neat. I mean, why not? Nothing in this entire comment section has anything to do with McAle Popka. Rupert, Rupert doesn't seem to even understand how news works on any level. Posting, what is he doing in America? Rupert Rupert doesn't seem to even understand how news works on any level posting. What is he doing in America? He's what he's not in America.

Starting point is 01:22:48 You fucking idiot. The broadcasters are in America. Right. Like they have a screen behind them. You realize that that's not a window into something happening right in the studio. It's a TV screen behind the people on the TV. They're talking about somebody in Russia. They state that in the video.

Starting point is 01:23:04 They said that he is in the worst prison in Russia And who replies? I am eight back again Of course this time posting he was hiding in Hillary's dungeon with the rest of them and the children Oh, you got a fucking work piece getting to this play Nice and guess who can't let that comment slide and be She's back. She posts. I am eight. No.

Starting point is 01:23:27 That was you under Bill's desk. A Lewinsky reference. They cannot stop. I'm not sure anyone in the comments section even watched the entire 48 seconds. They didn't show up to shit on Mikhail. They showed up to shit on each other as they so often do. Oh well, I still enjoyed a little break from the werewolf, but now I want to get back to him.

Starting point is 01:23:44 I want to show him. So let's get out of today's idiots of the internet. Idiot. I'll be into that. Into that. Into that. Into that. Been a while since we sucked on a serial killer like popkov. He reminds me mostly compared to the people we've done before of BTK, Dennis Raider, a

Starting point is 01:24:05 salad husband, great dad, soulless butcher of others, body count obviously a lot higher with pop-gov, but both had an interest in law enforcement, both used it to find their victims. You know, Dennis was taken out victims while he was setting up ADT security systems and pop-gov used his badge to kidnap rape and kill, not necessarily in that order. So, so strange how well the human mind can compartmentalize. Like how someone can be a warm loving father and then just brutally rape, torture, kill women, roughly the same age as his daughter. It reminds me strangely of Nazis in a way. How did some of them do what they did to Jewish

Starting point is 01:24:41 people, Romani people, homosexuals, others? They dehumanized them. They decided to believe that those people were not only less than human, they were a disease of flicking humanity itself. And when you go there in your head, then suddenly not only is it not immoral to kill, it's noble, it's heroic. Lot easier to hurt and kill when you believe that,

Starting point is 01:25:03 when you have that belief system, same with pop-g pop up man he how did he torture and kill so many women he rationalize that he was doing society of favor he was helping russia just like chicotilo thought he was doing cleaning out the unclean uh... pop car was with he was written humanity ridden his community of filthy women uh... he one Russian media outlet, Medusa, that any society condemns the behavior of a debauched woman, said he would only attack the kind of woman who behaved as if she didn't care where we went

Starting point is 01:25:34 and the most important thing to her was party. And what a fucking piece of shit. Why not fucking let her party? You fucking asshole. He despises women. He thought that she'd be home. Thought that they had no value, because they wanted to have some drinks.

Starting point is 01:25:48 Thought they were morally corrupting society. And he just couldn't see how he, in fact, is the real corruption. Right? He was the monster. He was the person, you know, bringing down Russian society the whole time. And the meat sack brain can get so twisted if you're not careful.

Starting point is 01:26:06 Gotta keep an eye on those thoughts. Gotta keep talking to others, keep your thoughts in check. Make sure that when you think that you're cleaning the world up, that you're not in fact one of the assholes making it fucking filthy. So let's recap about how not to live your life with today's top five takeaways.

Starting point is 01:26:25 Time. Shock. Top five takeaways. Number one, 55 former 55 year old former Siberian police officer, Mikhail Victorovich Popkov has been convicted of killing 77 women and one man. He currently sits in solitary confinement in Russia's most notorious prison, the black dolphin serving a life sentence. Number two, nearly all of Mikhail's victims were from Angarsk, one of the saddest cities I've ever read about. The coolest thing I read about Angarsk was its museum of clocks and watches, and that place is shit. Uh, it has a 20-mile long industrial

Starting point is 01:27:02 park and has some of Russia's most adverse environmental conditions. Hard pass, hard pass on Angersk. Number three, one of Popcups victims, a 17 year old girl found beaten, raped and left to die naked in the woods, lived and positively identified him and the police didn't give a shit. Russia in the 90s, between Popcup and Alexander Prachusekian stories, historically, pretty good place to get away with

Starting point is 01:27:25 with Bidicero Killer. Number four, Popcup supposedly stopped killing before he was caught because he became impotent. Via a case of syphilis, he claims to have caught from one of his victims that he waited too long to treat, which is possible. I now know that because I have added, can syphilis make you impotent

Starting point is 01:27:43 to my already extremely disturbing internet search history? A number five new info, McCale's wife, Alina finally left him after his second conviction and his daughter no longer believes he's innocent. That has to sting for this deranged family man and to add further insult, his wife just left him for one of the investigators who helped catch him. Ha ha ha! Love it!

Starting point is 01:28:07 How weird. How great. I hope he thinks about that investigator just fucking his wife with a not-impotent dick every day for the rest of his fucking miserable life as he wroughts in the Black Dolphin. Time suck. Top five takeaways. time suck tough five take away. The werewolf has been sucked our third Russian monster. Hard to say which one of the three is the worst.

Starting point is 01:28:32 I think probably still chickatilo, right? Because to me the factor is he killed kids. And he may have killed more than he was convicted for. Hard to be worse than the werewolf, but I think the butcher of Rostov might even be a little bit more deranged, more horrific, more of Russian, more of Russian maniac. Big thanks to the Timesuk team. Thanks to the Queen of the Suck, Lindsey Cummins, High Priestess, the Suck Harmony Velocamp, Jesse Guardian of Grammar Dobner, Reverend Dr. Joe Paisley, Timesuk High Priest, Alex

Starting point is 01:28:59 Dugan, the guy's a bit of extra danger of brain and access of peril. And thank you to Heather, Knowledge Ninja Ryylinder for finding a very hard to find info about today's maniac, not easy. Next week we tackle Napoleon, one of the greatest military minds Europe, and possibly the world has ever seen. An emperor who was able to conquer much of Europe in the early 19th century, even if he couldn't hold on to it for very long. Hard to do, hard to hold on to it when pretty much all of Europe, other than, you know,

Starting point is 01:29:28 your French contingent is fighting against you. His army discovered the Rosetta Stone, which unlocked the history of Egypt. Let us understand the hieroglyphics. He pissed off Beethoven. Beethoven was a huge admirer of Napoleon, but then when Napoleon crowned himself as Emperor of France, Beethoven said to have flown into a quote rage and cried out, is he too? Then nothing more than an ordinary human being. Now he too will trample on the rights of man and indulge only his ambition.

Starting point is 01:29:55 And then Beethoven went over to the table, took a hold of the title page of some symphony or whatever he'd been working on about Napoleon fucking torrent and two and threw it on the floor. Next Monday, we're gonna get curious. We're gonna learn about how Napoleon was not actually short about how he once wrote a romance novel and all other sorts of fun details about one of Europe's most important and interesting historical figures.

Starting point is 01:30:19 Time now for today's Time Sucker Updates. Updates, get your time, sucker, updates. First update today is from Jesse Woodgate. I actually gave her a nightmare, apparently. She writes, Dearest Suckington Smith-Evec-Lis-Pristine Beard-Intense. Okay, okay. So the brown recluse climbed up my bottom in my dream. I like it already.

Starting point is 01:30:49 I was just trying to catch someone's attention in your team for a higher cause. As I know, you must get a shit ton of messages. We do, and we're very thankful for that. Although I do think that it may please you to know that I did in fact have a nightmare. The giant brown recluse spiders called all over me and up my bum hole.

Starting point is 01:31:06 Ah, that's so funny to me. I actually woke up in a pool of sweat in the night. Yes, you managed to totally horrify myself conscious with that one, although you consciously didn't get me. I knew it was bullshite. So clearly you're from across the pond. I was going to message you a while ago with this, but you probably wouldn't appreciate me spitting my, my dream drivel

Starting point is 01:31:26 all over you. The thing that caused me to right now is to see if you might be able to do a shout out for my friend to see if any of your wonderful listeners will consider giving some money towards his cause. I'm sure you get a ton of requests like this, but I thought I would give it a try as my friend Michael is amazing in his story is particularly unfair and fucked up. Michael is 36 has been diagnosed with a rare cause of aggressive stage 4 cancer in his bowel, which has spread to his liver.

Starting point is 01:31:49 He found out just weeks before his baby girl was due to be born. I can't even imagine how he must have felt having to go home the day he got the news to tell his heavily pregnant wife Lauren that he'd been diagnosed with incurable cancer, especially as Lauren's father is also suffering from late stage cancer. Pretty unfair and fucked up, right? Yes. My God. Can you imagine the level of stress and sadness?

Starting point is 01:32:14 Nope. Nope, I can't. And yeah, I can't. So to bring me to my point, there is a treatment available that could potentially extend Michael's life so he can be there for his wife and daughter, but it's thousands and thousands of pounds, so his friends have set up a funding page, and we are all trying to think of anything and everything we can do to get people to donate and help us to try to keep this amazing father. Funny is fuck and loyal friend, and just all around amazing person with this as long as

Starting point is 01:32:38 possible. I know you get tons of these, but if you decide to share this with the fellow time sellers, I'd be eternally grateful. The link to this goFundMe page is goFundMe.com slash F slash team dash munk. I am putting that in today's episode description. Also, do want to say that I bloody love your podcast, love all the detailed information and all your Dottie side rants. I love the word Dottie. Describe something to be nutty. Even the peculiar singing and I find your Arab banjo really funny. I'm an artist and I listen to your podcast all day long

Starting point is 01:33:07 in my studio and I would say that it was your pod that has gotten me into podcast in general. I'm like a greedy knowledge sponge. I need more and more, give me more. I tell everyone I meet about the podcast and have several mates that now listen to it as well. Anyway, this is complete Waffley Waffletons at this stage. Thanks if you have read this so far

Starting point is 01:33:24 and hope to hear from you soon, best Jesse XX. Well Jesse, thank you so much for writing in. Terrible, terrible about your friend. Yes, we do get a lot of these requests. We can't always put them all in the show. Sometimes they just get missed with episode prep, but yes, putting that link in there.

Starting point is 01:33:39 What tragedy on tragedy on tragedy? Yes. Yeah. Sometimes life is going well. It can be easy to forget about how, you know, some people just get mother fucked. And I noticed that roughly a hundred thousand pounds has been raised already. Thank God. I hope that can, you know, extend this poor, poor father's life. And hopefully some more people can donate and extend it further.

Starting point is 01:34:02 National Park Mysteries update from Jacob Bodai. Hi, my name is Jacob Bodai. Long time, long time space, lizard and fan of your standup. I got a chance to meet you after your Cleveland standup show last year and I'm looking forward to seeing you in Cleveland again next month. Thank you. I am riding as I'm listening to the National Park suck. My wife and I are avid backpackers and actually did about a 60 mile loop in Yosemite a few years ago, hiking from Yosemite Valley up to the top of

Starting point is 01:34:29 half-dome across clouds, rest through Cathedral Peak up to Tulumedos back to the Valley. I'm not writing you to tube my own horn about the backpacking I've done but to emphasize the following. The national parks are much more dangerous than people may think. While I think a lot of people are used to having well-defined boundaries, keeping them away from potentially dangerous things, that is not the case in your assembly in many other parks. When we made it to the top of half-dome, my wife got a picture of me sitting on the edge of a cliff,

Starting point is 01:34:54 almost 5,000 feet above the valley floor below. There are visitors that die every year, getting too close to this cliff or that waterfall. I think people sometimes think to themselves, if it was that dangerous, there would be some sort of sign or chain keeping you from going there, which is more often than not, not the case.

Starting point is 01:35:14 You can be on a well-marked trail close to a ranger or visitor station and make one wrong move that can cost you your life even as a group of four experienced backpackers with a map and compass, we still got lost for two hours trying to find our way out of Cathedral Lake. The weather out there is some sort of sick joke. It would get up to 90 during the day,

Starting point is 01:35:34 but we would still have to cross hundreds of yards of ice and snow at a time, and at night it would drop into the 20s. I say this as a reminder that was driven home this last week. Mother Nature doesn't give a single fuck about you. Last week a PhD student living in Iowa that I went to high school with went missing in Canyonlands National Park.

Starting point is 01:35:51 He is an experienced long distance backpacker and rock climber. He set out from the trail head alone, left no itinerary with loved ones, three days after the search, his body was found at the bottom of a 500 foot cliff. Not that it would have saved his life but a hiking with a buddy or leaving an untairy would have led to a shorter search, less time for his friends and family to be left wondering what happened. I'm not trying to scare anyone from going out into the woods,

Starting point is 01:36:13 but keep in mind that mother nature does not give a fuck about you or how experienced you are. One wrong step, one slip up, one stiff breeze is all it could take to kill you out there. I'll wrap up saying, Rest in Peace, Jonathan Budhogue, Hale Nimrod, Praisebo Jangles, fuck they like, begun Lucifina unless you're bringing some of that sweet,

Starting point is 01:36:30 sexy ghost time. And I can't wait to see you again, and Cleveland be careful out there suckers, Jacob Bodai. Yeah, man, thanks for that reminder. That's the kind of stuff I talk about, especially my son Kyler all the time. And Rose, a little more careful, but him, it's like he just, you know,

Starting point is 01:36:44 is such a joyous little dude, we go camping is out there bouncing around in the woods. I'm like, dude, that's a fucking cliff five feet away from you. Right? This isn't a movie. It never things not necessarily just going to be guaranteed to work out like in any likes like to goof around and like he act like he's brave by going closer to him. I'm like, no, that's just fucking dumb. Right? This isn't like a guaranteed. I was thinking about this with cliff edges. The universe hasn't said,

Starting point is 01:37:07 this is gonna hold forever. There's no way this will slip. This embankment will slip a little bit. It's like one slip and then there you go. Is that really worth a selfie? You know, just stand back a little bit. Okay, order of the solar temple update, this is awesome, from Flora Hood.

Starting point is 01:37:23 Hey, Suck Master, I'm sure others have sent this in, they haven't. But wanted you to know that the secret behind Demombro's hologram, Masters, they sound a lot like Pepper's Ghost, an old theater technique popularized by John Henry Pepper in 1862. Basically, a plate of glass is placed at an angle where it is hidden by the audience, or hidden from the audience, and is between the stage and a hidden room off stage when the lights in the hidden room were turned on the lights in the theater are dimmed whatever is placed in the hidden room reflects on to the stage appearing like a ghost or hologram it's actually how Disney makes the ghost appear in the haunted mansion right.

Starting point is 01:38:00 Add in drugs which sounds like what the mom definitely doing, new members could conceivably believe that ancient masters were coming and talking to them. That's a rough explanation, but I hope it made sense. Thanks for letting me ramble and use my random theater knowledge. Love the suck and how it can, let's me continue to learn new things every week and add to the knowledge I already have of certain subjects. Keep on doing what you do. Dots of Lucifina.

Starting point is 01:38:22 Laura, thank you, Florida, because I, no, I did not know that. That makes so much sense. It sounds like, how are they pulling off? In my mind, I'm thinking of CGI, film techniques. I'm like, oh, there's this, okay, when I read that, I'm like, there's this simple technique that he could have done to do exactly what he did. So yeah, that sounds like that's exactly what he did.

Starting point is 01:38:41 Thank you very much. Finally, we'll end on a cool quasi-topic update, slash topic suggestion from Dalton Fyfer that I just thought was interesting and fun to share. I don't share as much of these topics, suggestions as much, but this is interesting to me. The subject line is my mom, the domestic terrorist. Greetings, grandmaster sucker, aka triple-embs, and gently voiced conduit, aka the relentless spoon man, come together with your hands, aka Dan. I wanted to wait until I was all cut up before I rode in

Starting point is 01:39:12 and take some time to brainstorm what I wanted to say. Well here I am, you beautiful bastard. I want to start off by saying that I become a huge fan of your comedy for about three years now and become, became a static when I found out that you had a podcast a few months ago. Sorry Mr. Show when you were in Wisconsin, but on my only day off that week,

Starting point is 01:39:26 my brother had to be a selfish piece of shit and proposed to his girlfriend, what a mother fuck that guy? She said yes, by the way. Now onto the matter of the outrageous subject line. You're probably expecting triple M to make an appearance around the corner, and while that would be funny, tender yacht rock does not translate well from text.

Starting point is 01:39:42 This is a possible gun control national park cast for night, spousal abuse update slash future topic suggestion. I couldn't decide which. I'll try to keep the stories brief as possible. Here goes. My mom ran out, ran out on the family a few months after my high school graduation about six years ago. It didn't really hit us very hard for almost 20 years. She was verbally and physically abusive towards my dad and older brothers, especially when they were little. Out of respect to them, I won't go into detail. But needless to say, my dad was the happiest I had ever seen him after their divorce.

Starting point is 01:40:13 Over the next four years or so, I heard all about my mom's wild adventures, from her Vegas wedding, to my new steppdick, I love steppdick. To my new steppdick, and her taking part in Amman Bundy and Yalcatas occupation of the Malhur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. How did I hear about that? You may ask the FBI called me while I was at work. In case you or your listeners haven't heard of Yalcatas or the Oregon standoff, it was a 40-day arm standoff between the FBI and militia of about 30 or so people, 30 or so people who took over What essentially is a federal bird sanctuary in the hopes of taking away the government's right to own public lands?

Starting point is 01:40:53 Yes, I heard about this because Few people my mom's nose mom my mom knows we're actually involved. There was a little connection to rigans like some people from Riggins use living rigans were actually apparently part of was a little connection to Riggins, like some people from Riggins, used to live in Riggins were actually apparently part of this stand up too. Oh God. It's any was fairly anticlimactic. My step dad went to prison, but they let my mom grow. Go. I only wanted to suggest this because the internet's reaction to the whole ordeal is too priceless

Starting point is 01:41:20 to ignore. Anyway, I've already taken up too much of your time. I just wanted to throw this idea out there and I'd happily send a link to the YouTube video of my steppedick holding a rifle and screaming for a bloodbath. There's idiot gold in those threads. Love the show. Have a good one homey. Dalton, PS, Hale, Nimrod. Oh, well, thank you, Dalton. And yeah, that, that, uh, we'll have to add that to the topic list. And I just, um, I just love all the connections that are forming with all the weird things going on in the world. It's just nice that our audience has grown to the point where it seems like, you know, whatever the topic is, somebody has like a personal

Starting point is 01:41:51 relationship with it, you know, they've been involved in the story somehow or know somebody who is or has been. Yeah, yeah, that would be an interesting thing to look into for sure. I'm sure there is idiot gold in those threads. Thank you all for your updates. I hope you enjoyed the episode and that is all for today's Time Sucker Updates. Thanks, time suckers. I need a net. We all did. That's all for today, me and Saks. I hope you live somewhere that has more than factories and shitty museums and doesn't have adverse environmental conditions. I hope you live somewhere that has, you know, more than factories and shitty museums and doesn't have adverse environmental conditions.

Starting point is 01:42:28 I hope you had a great week. I hope you don't kill anyone in the woods after tricking them into thinking you're just going to give them a ride home. And most importantly, I hope you keep on sucking. Oh Lies in the prosecutor you look look at me in this in there's no way me kill did it I He like he make pancake or waffle or toast you shouldn't point me point me one person who kill women and Like make pancake or if not pancake waffle or if not waffle at least toast it does it's not possible it's not possible I need I have to go now a work a late shift at the museum of clock

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