Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 151 - Lost Technologies!

Episode Date: August 5, 2019

Lost technologies! Greek fire, Damascus steel, the pyramid building abilities of ancient Egypt, India's flying vimanas, Rome's miracle medicine, the Antikythera Mechanism and so much more. We look into various claims of ancient technologies lost to time. Did they exist in the first place? Were they in any way superior to modern equivalents? A lot of historical mysteries explored on a Timesuck that bounces all over the place and was a blast to research and record. Hail Nimrod! Feel the Heat album Link: https://bit.ly/2WVJuax Donating $2800 this month to the Impulse Youth Arts Organization! http://www.impulseyoutharts.org/ Come to my standup special taping at Crofoot in Detroit on Friday, October 18th. Two shows! First is at 6:30PM: https://bit.ly/2N3E1tP . Second show is at 9PM: https://bit.ly/2FoADU6 Happy Murder Tour Standup dates: (full calendar at http://dancummins.tv) August 9-10 Orlando, FL The Improv CLICK HERE for tix! *** LIVE TIMESUCK *** August 11th - Orlando, FL The Improve CLICK HERE for tix! August 29 Los Angeles The Comedy Store Hollywood, CA CLICK HERE for tix! August 30 - September 1st San Diego The Comedy Store La Jolla, CA CLICK HERE for tix! Listen to the best of my standup on Spotify! (for free!) https://spoti.fi/2Dyy41d Timesuck is brought to you by the following sponsor: Hims! Get a free month trial for just $5 when you go to https://www.forhims.com/timesucked The Great Courses Plus! Get a free trial when you go to thegreatcoursesplus.com/TIMESUCK Watch the Suck on Youtube: https://youtu.be/ksi95Rh1L2k Merch - https://badmagicmerch.com/ Want to try out Discord!?! https://discord.gg/tqzH89v Want to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever current page hasn't been put in FB Jail :) For all merch related questions: https://badmagicmerch.com/pages/contact Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG, @timesuckpodcast on Twitter, and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcast Wanna become a Space Lizard? We're over 5000 strong! Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcast Sign up through Patreon and for $5 a month you get to listen to the Secret Suck, which will drop Thursdays at Noon, PST. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. You get to vote on two Monday topics each month via the app. And you get the download link for my new comedy album, Feel the Heat. Check the Patreon posts to find out how to download the new album and take advantage of other benefits.

Last technologies, here it is, Meat Sacks, the space lizard sending a non-serial killer chapter into the book of Time Sok this week. Gonna cover a lot of different subjects today, from ancient weapons of mass destruction, like Greek fire, to more modern inventions whose secrets have been taken to the grave, like starlight. Meat Sacks have been using technology since the very beginning of our existence. We've never been a species that was just cool with hanging with nature as it is. Our technology has mainly come from an evolutionary need to keep nature from wiping us out.

The world has endless ways to cut our days short from countless diseases to natural disasters, predators that both land and sea, naturally occurring poisons and radiation, hostile bacteria, exposure to the elements and more. Any of us leading lives of comfort on this oftentimes cold and heartless floating space rock have technology to thank for that comfort. Thousands and thousands of years of evolving tech created by hundreds of generations of talking monkeys. And the tech we'll be talking about today isn't just gadgets, far from it.

Clothing is a type of technology. Using a piece of wood designed to be pointy enough to stab a guy in the neck with is a type of technology. Finding the right herb to not have an unwanted pregnancy is a type of tech. In the last four centuries or so tech has really sped up. It continues to speed up. It wasn't that long ago when we used ships and horses to pass messages around the world. Now we can FaceTime anyone on a Wi-Fi or cellular network across the globe instantaneously.

It's truly incredible how far we've come. And it looks like things are only going to get better. Today we live longer than ever, our world is smaller than ever, and we've, you know, sent some meat sacks into space and we're planning on sending more to Mars relatively soon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Such an exciting time to be alive. But all, but our, today's technologies and the technological advances, really the peak of science and technology for all time,

yeah, they probably are, almost certainly actually, but not all of humanity's advancements have survived to the present day. Much of what our ancestors have made has been lost to history. So was any of it better than what we have now? That is what we're going to try to find out this episode. This is the question we're going to attempt to at

least partially answer. So let's dig in to a number of history's mysteries right now on TimeSuck. I'm son. You will be staying to talk some. Happy Monday called to the curious members. Welcome anyone who has found this show recently because of the Johnny Deere show in Kansas City or because of the Rezudo show in St. Louis. Both shows have been so damn good to me. I also highly recommend checking both of these shows out. The Rosudo show has its own podcast as does the Johnny Deere morning show, or you can check them out in St. Louis, Kansas City on the FM airwaves.

Some of the best morning shows in the business truly moon from the wrist show, front of the rock band Greek fire. How perfect is that talking about the loss technology of Greek fire today and they have a new album out called Broken. Listing to it earlier today in the suck dungeon, check it out everywhere. You can check out albums and support a great dude, making great music. Moon also the bass player for gold finger, a few punk scoff fans, right? In addition to to front and Greek fire.

If you're new to this show, I'm Dan Cummins, master sucker, and you are listing two time suck, hail, Nimrod, hail Lucifer, and a praiseable jangles. Still excited to hear triple M Michael motherfuckin McDonald in that intro. Recording once again in the sucked dungeon in Cordillane Idaho, Reverend Dr. Joe Paisley, Queen of the suck Lindsey Cummins, Scripkeeper, Zach Flannery, and Summer Inter in Sophie Fax, Sorceress Evans Evans all in the office today. And we are donating $2,800 this month to the impulse youth arts organization, a charity where one of our own space, Luzard's Jordan Alfero is a staff member, one of our own time suckers, hail Nimrods.

Researchers have found that learning to play a musical instrument can enhance verbal memory, spatial reasoning, literacy skills, plan and instrument, makes you both use both sides of your brain, which constraints and cognitive skills such as memory. Kyler and Rob, both my kids in drum lessons right now, I play guitar for, not great, I've messed around on it for, gosh, 20 years now, little over. Joe Paisley, he's in a band, great band called Meretta, Zach, Flannery and a great band called

Stopper and Citizen, got a great band called Stover and Citizen. He had a lot of music around the suck dungeon. And that's why we're donating to the impulse youth arts organization. So what is the impulse youth arts organization? They're a drum and bugle core, based out of Buena Park, California. Their goal is to help kids learn how to

play an instrument, but the bigger goal is to teach them the teamwork, self-esteem, dedication to hard work are important. And 2019 is their 20th anniversary. And donating $2800 to them really makes a difference. With a small charity, I'm just proud that that amount can really do a lot of great things for them. So thank you to all the space, those who support TimeSuck for allowing us to do that.

To find out more, go to impulseeuth arts dot org. Link in the episode description. Thanks in advance all the time suckers who came out to the comedy zone in Charlotte, funny bone, enrichment Virginia had to record this in advance of those dates. Gonna be in Orlando August 9th and 10th and are at the improv doing some stand up. The happy murder tour. Lindsay will be with me Sunday, August 11th live. Ant Hill kids suck in Orlando. And not only Queen of the suck Lindsey be there as well. So we'll Tom and Dan from mediocre time, mediocre time with Tom and Dan. Great podcast. After that Thursday, August 29th at the comedy store in Hollywood

showbiz. And then August 30th, 31st September 1st, the comedy store in La Jolla, just north of San Diego, Queens of suck there as well. More dates coming up Phoenix, Indianapolis, West Palm Beach, Tampa, more go to Dancomans.tv for more info and the link in the episode description to that. And new behind the bit on Pandora with Chad Daniels for you stand up fans just search behind the bit Dan comments on Pandora app are on the Pandora app shows right up and you can listen to it in order this time and you can listen to the first behind the bit in order for free for both of those. Also special new access design collection, the store based on learning new info here in the cults, the curious time suck is about having fun learning new things.

So we're launching the time suck university collection. There's a time suck school of science and history, the school of criminology and the school of wackadoology. We now have to he's representing each school and a hoodie representing the university as a whole. So yeah, yeah, yeah, get to it. All shirts made out of nothing but positive, cold, or dangerous vibes and a smidge of squirrel nut dust for a little extra flair, little extra pizzazz, little showbiz.

And any problems with the merch, just email K to access apparelco.com, link in the email description. And if you buy a T and a hoodie together, you get automatically $10 off. That discount does not go on top of the space of discount. But yeah, for time, suckers, you'll know 10 buck off discount. And now onward, and at least historically speaking, backward, as we go into lost technology. Not only are we taking a break from true crime today, we're also taking a break from a big ol' whopper of a time-slick timeline. Just gonna lay out a little baby timeline to provide some context for today's examples of lost technologies.

So let's hop in. A little historical context for how technology in general has been invented and advanced over the course of human history. Hail Memorad. Shrap on those boots soldier. We're marching down a time-sug timeline. Four billion five hundred and forty three million years ago Earth technology was present when the Earth itself is believed to have formed shortly before was invaded by mind controlling space lizards.

Some people actually believe that last part. Solar power baby, we just had to figure out how to use it quite yet since you know we didn't exist quite yet. Now we're working on making solar power more and more efficient. Solar power could possibly power the entire earth. Existing solar tech is actually strong enough to power the earth right now. We would just need a giant field of panels, roughly the size of the entire nation of Spain. And all those panels would have to be located in a pretty sunny place.

As impractical as that is now, I do think it's pretty cool that the potential for solar power to someday power the entire world is there if taken proofs. Get off the grid, get off the grid, less reliance on corporations or the government. Ah, I can feel the North Idaho coming out of me right now. It would be pretty amazing if someday the only power any of us need to run all of our devices comes from that power plant has been around since the earth's inception, that big fiery ball, our smaller dirt and water ball rotates around the sun.

I get by the ancient's worshiped. I get by some people still do pretty amazing. Hail to sun. Now let's skip ahead a little over 4.5 billion years. Human light creatures burst onto the scene, started walking on two legs, around 6 million BCE, and then they started killing each other with more than their bare hands, shortly after that by crafting the world's first military technology at a tools from stone, wood, antlers, and bones.

Never bring a fist to an antler fight. Sometime around 800,000 years ago, a few strains of future humanity learned how to harness fire and shortly after that ancient meat sacks learned that fire plus food equals tastiest shit. Special taste if you find the right rocks and berries and leaves and grasses to rub on it and flavor up whatever you've just beaten to death with a club or poke with a sharp stick or tricking to throwing itself off of a cliff. Watch this big deal!

Fire! Fire is the big deal. Clothing was the next big tech development. Clothing allowed my early idiot ancestors to move away from tropical parodises and settled in gray snowy wastelands Where it feels weird to drink a peanut collada ever and you don't see anyone in the bikini for 10 months out of the year Stupid close Stupid harsh habitat that makes clothes important and Luciferina wept Generally agree that meats acts began to wear the skin and fur of dead animals to stay warm around 170,000 BCE.

I wonder what a female Neanderthal would think of some of today's women's fashion accessories. Well, what's someone trying to cover the bottom of their feet so they can run across rocks and escape from a saber tooth? A little easier. Think of today's Toledo heels. Well, what would you think of string bikinis? I imagine some version of, what are you doing? It's just me naked.

That's silly. You're barely covering up two nibbles and a couple holes. What would an ancient dude think of her prepants? I'm guessing he instinctively wouldn't respect it. I'm also guessing ancient man would respect his shit out of the fanny pack. Just genius. That is something I can put some rocks and berries and meat in. Sometime around 9,500 BC, ancient civilization started to master agriculture and move from just harvading what grew wild around them to understanding how to irrigate and grow crops and mass, crops and mass, farming gave birth to early civilizations by giving humans the ability to feed many other humans who then didn't also have to be farmers and instead could

be artists or soldiers or even lawyers and politicians. So farming was mostly good. I kid. Kind of. Today around 55% of the world's almost 8 billion people, you know, people, excuse me, over 8 billion people, thought to be living in an urban area or city. No, almost, yeah, sorry, I jumped the number in my head.

Under eight. Today around 55% of the world's almost 8 billion people, thought to be living in an urban area or city. That figure set to rise to the 70% in the coming decades according to the United Nations. As the settlements grew, the demand for more amenities would become a driving force for more technological advancement. Handmade bricks were first used for construction in the Middle East between 7,000 and 6,000 BCE.

And if you're thinking bricks, it gets the shit about bricks. I get it. That's what I first thought when I came across that info. But the invention of BRICKS provided a pretty big leap forward for humanity. Homes are now able to be built to last and be passed down from one generation to the next, allowing for easier wealth accumulation within families, leading to more class systems and ancient cultures and the rise of an ability. Religious centers can now inspire more awe.

Wallows can protect one group of meat sacks much more effectively from others. Bigger, stronger forts can more effectively intimidate enemies. The brick is a huge tech advancement. Yay, brick! Long live the brick! Hip, hip, hooray! We would have never made it to the tech level of creating PS4s and MacBooks if we didn't have solid structures.

We could put these devices inside of to keep them safe from the elements and from the theft of other meat sacks. All this makes me think of Maslow's hierarchy of needs, that motivational theory and psychology developed by Abraham Maslow in 1943 comprising a five-tier model of human needs, often depicted as, you know, hierarchal levels within a pyramid. Love and excuse to throw in some psychology. The theory states that needs lower down in the hierarchy must be satisfied first before individuals can attend to the needs that are higher up. From the bottom of the hierarchy upwards, the needs are

physiological, safety, love and belonging, esteem and self-actualization. You have to make sure you have food to eat, water to drink, a pot to piss in, and a place to rest where you can be protected from the elements before you can worry about things like a social life, and grapple with questions like, but what do I really want to do with my life? Once you have some security, such as a brick house to live in, a brick, and food and water and you're rested and socially fulfilled, well now you have the luxury of working on things like passion projects. Now you have more time and energy to invent more tech.

The story has always made sense to me. I think it's one of the main reasons why First World Nations develop a lot more tech than Third World Nations. The citizens of First World Nations have the luxury of not having to worry about starving to death or dodging bombs, which gives them the time necessary to develop a lot more new tech, a lot more frequently.

The last shows up around 5,000 BCE. And by 4,999 BCE, a lot of parents have already screamed some version of, I tell you, be careful. I told you I didn't drop it. Ah, God, pay attention to what you're doing. The ancient Roman historian, Pliny, I was going to call him Pliny, but apparently he doesn't rhyme with Pliny. The ancient Roman historian, Pliny, suggested that Phoenician

merchants had made the first glass in the region of Syria around 5,000 BCE. According to you, the archaeological evidence, the first man-made glass showed up in Eastern Mesopotamia and Egypt around 3,500 BCE, and the first glass vessels were made around 1,500 BCE and Egypt emissed it. Massapotemia. Yeah, it's a lot of syllables. And then a man named Cameron Tower made the first glass one piece waterbong in Eugene, Oregon in 1993 and Potheads rejoiced. Not even kidding. Came across that random bit of historical weed trivia, and decided to sneak it in here. Another major technological advance was the boats. The earliest historical evidence of boats

are found in Egypt during the fourth millennium BCE. That's when early humans learned it was easier to consistently vomit at sea than it was on land. Boats also allowed early explorers to cross pollinate cultures like never before. I mean, just imagine those early days. heading across a Mediterranean or some other sea, fully believing in giant sea monsters and ever-present gods who can destroy your little boat with a thunderbolter, rise up from the depths and just pull you back down to the bottom.

And then after days or weeks on the water, you find a little island of people who look a lot like you, but make different sounds to speak. People who don't know your gods instead have their own. What a truly amazing experience that would have been. Boats further trade between early civilizations and accelerated the development of more advanced cultures. Sometimes when you showed up on some foreign shores, you found people who possessed tools that you'd never seen.

That's new tech. Maybe you gave them some navigational knowledge, no one in their world possessed, just worlds of knowledge colliding, ideas, expanding tech developing. Again, what exciting moments to experience? I mean, I love living in the present era with all of our modern tech, but you know, I am jealous of the true mind-blowing moments of wonder and discovery. Some of our ancestors were able to experience coastal trade, fostered the growth of giant ancient cities on ancient shores. More meat sacks moved away from hunter-gatherer societies and small towns moved into specialization advancing tech further. More people are becoming artisans, weaponsmiths, boat builders, etc.

Sometime around 3,500 BCE, humans invented the wheel. The first wheels were used to create pottery. Humans invented the wheel. The first wheels were used to create pottery, to make, you know, knick knacks and vases and other stupid boring shit. But then something cool happened. 300 years later, someone used wheels to make a chariot and they realized, holy fuck, we can kill so many more people of these things.

And then someone else is like, we can also use the wheel to improve agricultural technology in Playa, Moreland and plant more crops and feed a lot more people. And that first guy was like, shit the fuck up, bring it this! I was talking about some cool shit for he started slapping your dumb lip flops around. God damn it! Could someone please run a spear through that dork? Sometimes between 3500 BCE and 3000 BCE, the Samaritan people of southern Mesopotamia came up with the world's first written language, ataritan people of southern Mesopotamia came up with the world's first

written language, at least we know of. Reading and writing allowed for much faster acceleration of technological innovation. Meet Sacks didn't have to rely on the telephone game and the telephone game alone to pass information around anymore, to build on it from one generation to the next. You could actually write instructions that someone else could read and then later add to. I mean, imagine trying to run your life now without written language.

Imagine that world, no me gusta. Imagine what this podcast would be like. Write anything to be able to read. Couldn't write any notes. Just a whole bunch of vague information. And then there was a man killed some people. Now it's not, that was not good. He's a dick.

He's a real dick. As I was probably Steve or something and the people he killed, oh boy, they were very sad and their families were sad too, we think. And those families, they wanted revenge or it's probably, I think justice and maybe both and Steve. Oh boy, check this out, check these details out. He killed some folks with some like a rock, maybe a chokeholder or something.

And hard to say, he did a long time ago. And then maybe some people caught him. We're not sure. I think their names could have been Janet and Khalid. And there was a dude named Miguel, maybe or maybe Dane was involved somehow. Hard to say, you try to tell a two hour story when you're just talking at your ass.

Siltization is good advance without the red word, but not nearly as quickly as they could with it. Then between 3,000 and 2,500 BCE, the ancient Egyptians first produced papyrus, a word I struggle with every time I see, an early but crude version of paper, and papyrus, man, way more fun to write on than rock, I'm guessing. Now people didn't have to chisel into stones anymore. How much of that suck if you had to take notes on a rock? I feel like 99.9% of today's text messages, not going to be written. 99.9% of status updates, all that, but definitely text messages, not going to be written if

people had to chisel them in stone. I just first stone tablets, yo! Did you see the game? I'm gonna return tablet, you know, hours or days later. I don't know. What game are you talking about? Next tablet, the package game. Finally another tablet, what's a package game?

Next day, another tablet, fuck! Auto correct. Mentor chisel Packers. Final tablet. Oh, nope. Go pack. Days wasted as opposed to 10 seconds. 3000 BCE. The world's first bronze age settlement is Jerusalem. Bronze has been described by archaeologists and anthropologists as being pretty cool. Copper began to be widely used between 3,600 BCE, the technologies of metallurgy and blacksmithing thrust, even more demand for commodities and tools

under the global market. Also helps furnish more advanced weapons of war. Now the sharp stabby things are glistening and ornate. And a lot sharper. I'll be back in a few months, Susan. I'm gonna get a murder some dudes with this fine piece of shiny art. Technology accelerates even faster now.

At this point, we have fire, the wheel, copper, bronze, glass, a way to write it all down. Get the fuck out of our way, nature. Iron weapons show up between 1400 and 1200 BC. Now we can really smack ourselves around. Iron swords, both stronger and cheaper than bronze swords, huge military advantage. If you're one of the first empires to get this tech, iron rudders allow boats to be steered in a totally new way advancing water traveling naval warfare or capability. Plows with iron tips allow hard earth to be turned into fertile fields for the first time and expand the land available to be used for agriculture. More food allows empires to grow and further specialize in advanced technologies. The Chinese invent early magnetic direction finders also also known as compasses, between 302, 200 BCE, kind of a big deal. The compass allows for, you know,

much more advanced naval and land navigation allows for greater exploration and more cross-culture pollination of ideas. Around 150 to 100 BCE, gear-driven precision clockwork machines grow up. They're finally those. Now, they show up. Tiny wheels, driving the madness that would lead us towards inevitable robot apocalypse just a couple thousand years later. In 50 BCE, Roman engineer named Vitruvius perfects the modern vertical water wheel and now turbine technology is on its way. Two years later, the world suffers a huge technological setback

when in 48 BCE, the massive library of Alexandria burns and with it an untold treasure trove of knowledge What lost technology lied in those scrolls? I don't know, but Impressive segue coming up here in a second. I'll tell you where you can find some of the best knowledge of today with our sponsor the great courses plus There's a sense of pride that comes with being able to talk confidently and intelligently about a subject, or to be the only one with the correct trivia answer. These are the few of the reasons why you need the great courses plus. With this streaming device, excuse me, this streaming service that you can use on devices, capable of streaming, you get the freedom to learn more about virtually any topic and truly master it.

Learn unique perspectives from top engaging experts and their fields, all of whom pronounce actual words better than I do consistently. There's unlimited access to thousands of lectures on topics like death, dying, the afterlife, time travel, money management, even real crime scene investigation. And with the great courses plus app, you could deflexibility to watch or listen anytime just about anywhere. If you like ancient technology, then I recommend checking out the 24 lecture course, Understanding Greek and Roman technology. There is also a 24 lecture course titled Lost Worlds of South America. You can learn about the ancient and mysterious NASCAR lines in the underground aqueducts,

built 1,500 years ago in Peru. How did they do that? Listen to that course. Get the awesome feeling of pride that comes with knowledge, sign up for the great courses plus and get an all-axis trial for free at thegreatcoursesplus.com slash time suck. Start your free trial now only at thegreatcoursesplus.com slash time suck, that is the great courses plus.com slash time suck. Link in the episode description button in the time suck app

In 105 CE Si loon makes the first real paper in China ideas can be spread even faster now Drawings of nude women undoubtedly drawn and passed around They haven't been found, but I have no doubt of their existence between 27 bc and 395c the Romans developed the first basic concrete called 27 BC and 395 CE the Romans developed the first basic concrete called a pot salana pretty badass stuff. We'll talk more about that after the timeline and 600 CE windmills are invented in the Middle East and with it turbine technology evolves further. Then a major invention truly changes the world forever candy corn in 600 CE ancient minds

thought it would be fun to call small yellow sugar triangles candy corn, even though they're barely shaped like corn, and they taste literally nothing like corn. They just taste like sugar mixed with more sugar that someone smashed into a little pellet and then drizzled some more liquid concentrated sugar on top of it and someone else sprayed some harmful chemicals on all that. By 605 C.E., morbid obesity rates in the mind kingdom had risen by 75,000 percent and half the population was already dead from diabetes.

Diabetes. Candy corn production immediately halted in 606 CE, everything's cool again. Uh, no. Gunpowder is the next thing that changes the world forever between 700, 900 CE, the Chinese invent gunpowder, fireworks, and I don't want to brag, but I've heard both of those things. I know some stuff, okay? He guys had heard of them. Yeah, get it.

Between 800 and 1300 CE, the Islamic Golden Age sees the development of a wide range of technologies, including ingenious clocks and feedback mechanisms that are the ancestors of modern automated factory machines. Many also credit the early years of the Golden Age as the beginning of the scientific method. Super big deal.

This method of gathering empirical evidence and controlled testing will advance all fields that understand and lead to so much tech. Around 1000 CE, the Chinese developed eyeglasses by fixing lenses to frames that fit onto people's faces. Thank you, China. I like not getting headaches when I read things close up. Pre-shaded.

In 12-16, an Arabic engineer named Al Jazari takes the future to the next level and invents a flushing handwashing machine, one of the ancestors of the modern toilet. Just think how different the world will look right now. It's a technology of modern plumbing, including flushing toilets did not exist. I'd be all right where I live, I could dig an outhouse.

Could you? Not if you're living in some high-rise, you know, high-rise Manhattan condo. What would your giant shit factory of a building do with all that waste? Think about that. How terrible would life smell? Huge shout out to everyone just involved in any way with the invention of the toilet. Gotta be one of the best inventions that most probably don't think that much about and take for granted. Warfare tech, of of course continues to evolve as well. In 1232, the Chinese repelled Mongol invaders using early rockets. Yep, ancient rockets, fire rockets.

These fire arrows were the world's first rockets propelled by gunpowder. Arrow was that exploded upon targets. I'm guessing the tough-ass Mongols felt a rare feeling of terror when that happened. Can you imagine being used to fighting with a bow and arrow and then out of nowhere, someone essentially shoots a hand grenade at you? How many Mongols should themselves that day? 5% 20? I still want to do a Ginghis Khan stock.

Now, how fun would it be if you're the one who gets to fire the arrows? If you have like this way more superior military technology in battle, sometimes I have this fantasy where I have to go back in time with a bunch of modern weapons and then just take shit over. I think it comes from army of darkness, that movie. But so great to go back in time with a bunch of antibiotics, surgeon, a bunch of automated, automatic weapons, bunch of bullets, just run everything.

If I think about this fantasy too deep though, it does get a little bit sad, right? Because then you know, you take everything over and one night I got a fucking dwell in it. Ancient place with no electricity or cool, you know, streaming shows to watch, no podcasts, no hot pockets, no toilets, no open-faced turkey sandwiches with, you know, good mashed hails and gravy, no PS4, no U2, never mind. It's dumb fantasy.

Massive leap for language and learning comes in 1450 CE when Johannes Gutenberg finishes the first modern printing press using rearrangeable metal letters called movable type. To shove those quills up your asses, boys, Johannes just showed the fuck up. The invention will lead to an explosion of knowledge and tech advancements when pamphlets and books are soon able to be published in mass and spread to the masses. People who never would have been able to access books when monks and scribes are doing a lot of print creation by hand for either the church or nobility. In 1609, Galileo builds a practical telescope,

makes new astronomical discoveries. Intellectual imaginations bloom and the greatest minds in the world are able to see space like never before and dream new dreams. A few decades later, Anthony Van Levenhook and Robert Hook independently developed microscopes. And the Reverend Dr. Joe Pais' ancestors

are able to see their penises for the first time. Boom! Micro-pain, dad Joe, coming in hot! Yeah, yeah! 1701, that's probably funny to no one, but me. 1701, an English farmer named Jethro Tull begins the mechanization of agriculture by inventing the horse drawn seed drill.

Now, the way to say that is that Jethro Toll paved the way for the invention of the tractor, which would lead to cool John Deere trucker hats. Jethro Toll also paved the way for a future band to use his name and introduce the flute into the world of hard progressive rock. If you can believe it, all the way back in 1703, computer technology was first being hinted at.

Sort of. A man named Gottfried Liebenitz, our Leipnitz pioneered the binary number system, which is now used in virtually all computers and might very well be the true language of the universe, probably the language that the space lizard used to control the moon matrix. Thomas Newcomen builds the first practical steam engine, the early 1700s, and that was one hot invention you can get. It's the hottest steam engine. I'll show myself out, hashtag dead joke.

1783 French brothers, Joseph Michelle Mont-Golfier, and Jacques Antoinette Mont-Golfier, make the first practical hot air balloon and send meat sacks into the sky And then they either become the first members of the mile high club or at least think about it They probably also think man this thing's really hard to steer. I mean, it's cool. It's cool. What are you supposed to do this shit? Now meat sacks are traveling via land see and air things to continual tech advancements Around 1800 we get to we get closer to the Tesla Roadster, when an Italian dude named Alessandro Volta

makes the first battery, and the 19th century would bring the world the largest boom of technology in the history of man. Boom, not boom. In the 1820s and 1830s, Michael Faraday first builds primitive electric generators and motors. In 1827, a man named Joseph Nieps invents the first modern uh... photograph

he also probably at least thought about taking the world's first porn opic and i'm guessing he also at least considered taking a pic of his dick show to some women who if he didn't like it he would just then say i just i was joking around uh... i know it's gross that's the joke marina do it i just joking

actually i will i am joking around, check out how quick the invention of the photograph really did lead to the spread of pornography. In 1841, English scientist William Fox Talbot patented the first negative positive process making multiple copies of a photo for the first time. This invention permitted an almost limitless number of prints to be produced,

be able to be produced from glass negative. It also reduced the exposure time and made possible true mass market for low cost commercial photography. And it was immediately used to reproduce nude portraits, classified by the standards of the time as pornographic, like within weeks, they were just using this device to take pictures of paintings, people who made it of naked women and then soon pictures of naked women and just spread it around as fast as possible. Paris soon became the porn capital of the world. And that title lasted until other cities got a hold of this technology, and then every city was the porn capital of the world.

In 1848, only 13 photography studios existed in Paris. By 1860, there were over 400, and according to one source, most of them made income from the sale of illicit nude images to the masses who could now afford it. Hey, I love this, Feta, I love we are such simple creatures in some ways. Dude, who attracted to women have always loved pictures of naked women. Of course, we have. If I could only look at one thing for the rest of my life, probably going to be naked woman, naked woman, then sunset, then poppies, then one of my enemies pleading for their lives. Those four possibilities have to be a naked woman. Naked woman, then sunset, then poppies, then one of my enemies, pleading for their lives.

Those four possibilities have to be at least in the top 10. As soon as women started wearing clothes, wanting to see women naked became a need, almost as important to straight men as having regular access to food and water. Going back to Maslow's hierarchy of needs, food, check, water, check. Where do I see some naked women?

Sometime between 18th and 13th and 1840, a smarty pants named William Sturgeon developed the first practical electric motor. Throughout the 19th century, the world went nuts on inventions, early forms of cars, radio, telephones, power plants, dishwashers, space rockets, jet engines, electric dildos, air conditioners, were invented as well as the discoveries of aluminum

and new techniques for mining. Then tech really exploded in the 20th and 21st centuries. Television, robots, modern refrigerators, porn up, nuclear power, satellites, fiber optic cell phones, deep fat fried twinkies, fanny packs, everything else we use today is sprangling to existence. And that is it for today's time, so timeline, but just the beginning of this episode. Good job, soldier. You've made it back. Barely. Alright, that's, I mean that was fun, right? You just learned so much. Our meat sack noodles full of a little extra knowledge right now. He'll nimrod.

Now we have a little technological advancement context to work with. Meat sacks have been making shit, and steadily progressing and improving said shit for literally thousands of years. With the advent of the scientific method, systematic observation, measurement, experimentation, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses, tech advancement sped up. We are to the point now of being able to send pictures of our most pointless shit instantly to our friends, potentially thousands of miles away. But what else could we have right now? Certain technologies weren't lost or did we lose

any technologies? Is the entire concept of lost technology just a bunch of wacky doodle nonsense? Is it just, you know, part of that super fun ancient aliens mythology that leads more and more people to believe that all kinds of super cool shit used to be around, but then the damn lot of it, it would illuminate it, took it from us. Leave us alone illuminate it. And then we probably used to be able to make our own goal at a gravel, nose grease, and peanut shells, but then the illuminati stole the secrets of alchemy. We probably used to be able to cure any and all diseases,

but then the illuminati masters of control, big pharma, took all of Earth's most powerful, healing herbs, put them in an underground greenhouse, where they can only help themselves. Why let us heal when they can just keep us drugged up and make fortunes? Charging us outrageous amounts of money to barely stay alive. Those bastards. But seriously, did the ancients have some of their own cool shit that we no longer have access to?

Are there really some things our ancestors did better than we can do now? One might look at the pyramids of Giza and wonder, why did they seem like ancient Egyptians were way better at stacking huge rocks than we are? I had thoughts like that much it beat you. That incredible mountaintop retreat of the Incas in Peru. How the hell did they build such impressive structures so high up in the Andes without electric and gasoline or diesel powered machinery and tools? How did they do all that without foreclips and cranes and jackhammers and slabsaws and backhows etc. So let's check out some old cool shit. Let's see if we can figure out how it's made and if the technology you should create

it was indeed lost, right? After a word from one of today's sponsors. Time's up is brought to you by hymns. I am not lying when I say that hymns, biotinin gummies are the tastiest vitamins I have ever eaten Seriously, they're not candy and I supposed to just eat them like candy But I did have three of them the other day because I left a little bottle on the counter near where I was working And I justified two more after I already having the one in the morning thinking yeah, they're good for me I can use many vitamins. I want they make me healthier

But don't do that. You don't need one a day. You don't eat 20 We're gonna want 20 the him is biotin gummy. It contains amongst other things biotin me healthier, but don't do that. You don't need one a day. You don't need 20. You're going to want 20. The hymns biotin contains amongst other things, biotin, and essential water, soluble vitamin. That is necessary for the metabolism of carbohydrates, fatty acids, and amino acids. And hymns offers much more than vitamins. They have lotions, potions, prescription medication to treat erectile dysfunction and more. 40% of men by age 40 struggle from being able to get and maintain an erection. Thankfully, there is for hymns.com, a one-stop shop for a hair loss, skin care, and sexual wellness for men, and so much more. hymns connects you with real licensed

doctors, FDA-approved pharmaceutical products to treat ED. They have known, well-known, generic equivalents. To name brand prescriptions, no need to worry about multiple in-office doctor visits, simply answer questions about your medical history. Chat with the doctor for confidential reviews, and if you've, you get approved, products or ship directly to your door. Try hymns for a month today for just five bucks. We'll get you started for just five bucks

while supplies last. Prescription products are subject to doctor approval, require an online consultation with the physician, who will determine if a prescription is appropriate. For more information, go to forehams.com slash time suck ed. That's F-O-R-H-I-M-S dot com slash time suck ed for him.com slash time suck ed and the link is in the episode description. Button link to the deal in the app and speaking of buttons, I want to push a button to get us back into lost technology. First up, let's head to ancient Greece and look at a few of their most famous law technologies. Greek fire, the anti-catheterian mechanism, and the medicine, Nepinthe. Greek fire was an ancient super weapon devised and used to red effect by the Byzantine Empire.

Its exact recipe was a jealous-garted secret, a secret that now, of course, has been lost to history. Greek fire would become the most potent weapon of Christiandom for over 700 years. Just think about that, that's a long reign. This would have no small part enabled the Byzantines and Constantinoblitz resist its many enemies for as long as it did.

Greek fire became so important to the Byzantines that Emperor Romanus II, who reigned between 959, 963 CE, declared that the three things, three things must never reach enemy hands. The Byzantine Imperial Regalia, any royal princess, and Greek fire. Greek fire was an incendiary weapon developed and used by the Byzantine Empire for both land and naval warfare. Accounts from the time as well as contemporary descriptions indicated it had a similar effect

to modern day napalm. So super not fun to get lit up with Greek fire. If someone's like, hey, join me to chop off one of your arms or burn your Greek fire, you're gonna be like grab a sword and get over with. Just take it on. Accounts for the time to speak

of how Greek fire could not be put out using water on the contrary. It appeared to burn vigorously when contacted by water and it would also stick to anything it came into contact with. Super fun. Sounds like a really enjoyable way to die. Greek fire was a devastating weapon. The flaming concoction could be deployed in a variety of methods.

It was either thrown in pots or discharged from siphoned handheld or ship mounted tubes. In the case of the latter, it was dispensed in a manner similar to a modern day flamethrower. A flamethrower that kicked out of flame that wouldn't burn even if you stopped dropped and rolled. A flame that kept burning even someone through water on you. Greek fire was developed by Cali Canos of Heliopolis. He escaped a constant novel from Muslim held Syria around 668 CE. It appears he may have just refined a similar substance known to have existed long before he did.

The Kingdom of Pontus used a similar mixture against the Romans during the Mithradatic Wars in the first century BCE. Although the exact recipe was a closely guarded secret light petroleum or naphtha, known to be one of Greek fires' main ingredients, naphtha's a flammable oil containing various hydrocarbons obtained by the dry distillation of organic substances, such as coal, shale, or petroleum. Something the Greek fire probably was a mixture of petroleum, pitch, sulfur, pine, or cedar resin, lime, and bitumen. A black viscous mixture of hydrocarbons used for road surfacing and roofing.

Some historians think it might have been a, it might have had gunpowder or melted salt, peeder mixed into it as well. A recipe for all kinds of shit that really cooked, whatever it touched. Because the formula was only handed down from emperor to emperor, little else is known about Greek fire. Its recipe was kept to seek it for over 700 years and has been lost to history. Here's an ancient historian's account of its use in a Greek naval battle against the

Rusei, some early Viking ancestors. The Greeks began to fling their fire all around, and the Rusei, some early Viking ancestors, the Greeks began to fling their fire all around, and the Rusey seemed to flames through themselves, and haste from their ships, preferring to be drowned in the water rather than burned alive in the fire. Here's an example of how truly militarily advantageous this weapon was. In the latter half of the seventh century, C.E., the Arab world was biting off great chunks out of the Christian Mediterranean, and their fleets seemed invincible. They conquered Sicily, Tarsus, Great Swass of North Africa, even the mighty fortress of

Rhodes. And then they set their sights on the very heart of the Byzantine Empire, Constantinople itself. The Arab ships formed their three fleets, captured an island opposite the capital, and then settled down to besiege the city. And they stayed there for four long years. The Byzantines needed a miracle to keep from being conquered and they found one in Greek fire.

Sailing out to meet the Arab fleet with their ships spouting these magical flames, they routed the Arabs and then they used Greek fire to route another Arab fleet only a few decades later in 718 CE. And now that recipe is gone. But it's not like we don't have more powerful weapons than Greek fire now. I mean, nukes do a wee bit of damage. But we still love to have their recipe. I mean, if the zombie apocalypse is, and you know, life is, we know it ends. I wouldn't mind having some super fire to defend the Cummins bunker with. Also super cool

that the bison teams had a weapon so much more advanced than anything their contemporaries had. And we're able to keep it a secret for so very long. What a great wild card to be able to, you know, take out and battle. Now let's look at a mysterious device. This is a lot of people's favorite example of loss technology. A device that is thought to have set at the bottom of the sea for 2000 years before it was finally brought to the surface only to Baffelis and then later to be used by the flat earth movement to ridiculous

a ridiculous attempt to kind of prove that they're right. I'll get to that in a second too. Any excuse to talk about flat earth, I'm all for it. More than a hundred years ago, an extraordinary mechanism found by sponge divers at the bottom of the Aegean Sea near the little island of Anticathira. Anticathira, a little island that only about 50 people live on today. Beautiful little island, two-hour ferry ride from Crete. The Greek government will actually pay you to live on this island if you can pass a relocation application process. I don't know, maybe you can work at the only restaurant on the island.

Maybe you can open up a second restaurant and pray you get, you know, along with the other 50 people on the island. I wouldn't move there if I was single. I'm guessing the dating scene is a bit rough. Anyway, just off this island, a unique bronze and wood object was found with a shipload of marble coins, glassware and pottery in 1900. And then the anti-cathera mechanism was somehow ignored until 1951. Was this strange, complicated instrument used to make astronomical measurements? Yes

Was it wasn't a mechanical model of the solar system or an astronomical clock? Mm-hmm. Did aliens drop it out of their spaceship? Well, no one Excuse me while on one of their disgusting kind of anal anal probe missions. Not sure are those aliens hiding in area 51 right now Waiting for thousands of wackacadoodles to storm the military base and free them on September 20th? Maybe. For decades, scientific investigations failed to yield much light and relied more on imagination than the facts when examining the anti-catheteria mechanism.

However, research over the last half centuries began to reveal its secrets, spoiler alert, it's super fucking cool. This thing dates from around the end of the 2nd century BCE and nothing as complex as this mechanism shows up again that we know of for the next thousand years. I mean, this gadget was way, way, way ahead of its time. The clock-like mechanism consists of roughly 30 bronze gears in a wooden container roughly the size of a shoebox. By turning a hand crank, you can move the gears and rotate a series of dials and rings on which there are inscriptions and annotations of Greek zodiac signs

and Egyptian calendar days. This incredible device also tracks the seasons, tracked ancient festivals like the Olympics, the anti-cathera mechanism, even included two dials that rotated to show both lunar and solar eclipses. But the most sophisticated thing the mechanism did was lunar calculations. You could figure out what cycle the moon would be in at any given point in time and model its elliptical orbit.

This incredible device also displayed the positions of the five major planets known to the ancient Greeks, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. The mecha-dism also marks the earliest appearance of the differential gear. It is believed that the designer used a pin and slot arrangement to join two gears of differing tooth counts in order to model and compensate for the irregular elliptical orbit of the moon. Though through a complex series of gearing ratios, this ancient computer could predict solar and lunar eclipses displaying models of them that the user's fingertips, just as they would happen in the sky, it was the closest thing the ancient Greeks had to a smartphone

or computer. My mind is blown thinking about how it could have existed so long ago So how did it end up on the seafloor? An astrophysicist at Athens University theorized in 2006 that the boat on which the mechanism was found may have been headed to Rome as part of a triumphal parade for the emperor Julius Caesar and the first entry BCE a Related theory is that the ship was carrying treasure from the Roman general solos sack of Athens in 87 to 86 BCE in the same time period. The famous Roman orator,

Marcus Tullius, Cicero, mentioned a mechanical planetarium called a sphere of Archimedes that demonstrated how the sun, moon and planets, moved with respect to the earth. So who the hell made this thing? The devil! Something that's the inventor of trick and obituary himself may have built it. Hipparchus, known as the father of trick and obituary, because he created the first trick and obitable in his attempts to answer questions,

related to the planets and other heavenly spheres. Oh, hippie was born. And what is now turkey around 190 BCE, worked in top primarily on the island of Rhodes. And Hipparchus, the guy with the name, it's me sounds like some kind of dinosaur part of me wants to call him turdactyl was one of the first thinkers thinkers to speculate that the earth revolved around the sun but he could never prove it so did he build the

anti-cather mechanism to build the case for the heliosentric model of the solar system being the correct model perhaps since inventions like this usually don't come out of no where many researchers think that we may yet find older precursors in a future archaeological discovery down the road. And now let's talk about flat earth. Because also members of the flat earth movement have argued that the anticanthera mechanism proves that the earth is indeed flat. Even though this mechanism's calculations regarding lunar cycles, dates, planetary positions, et cetera, only work with the round earth heliocentric solar system

model. ridiculous. So why do they think this device proves the earth is flat? Oh boy, get ready for a whole lot of dumb coming your way. This is unbelievable to me, but not because I have looked at flat earth theory, you know theory quite a few times before. They think it proves you're this flat because the gears of the mechanism operate on a flat track. Do you hear what I'm saying? They think this thing proves the earth is flat because this thing is flat because it's not shaped like a ball. God, this is like, this is the intellectual equivalent of arguing that the earth must be flat because you're able to determine the size of the earth using calculator. And hello, calculator's flat.

Ha ha ha. Do you see what I'm, fuck me, willful ignorance. I've come to understand that a flat earth movement is mostly just about stubborn, fuck science and education, a logic willful, insanely frustrated ignorance. Flat earthers believe the earth is flat, not because there's any evidence because there is not. They just want to believe it. It's like, no, it's not.

No, it's not. When do I want to? They want to believe our government and scientists trick us as they want to believe the world is full of more dark mysteries and conspiracies and really is. And I hope their beliefs always infuriate me. Okay. Before we leave Greece, let's look at one more example of lost technology from Ancient Greece, some ancient psychiatric medicine.

The Greeks were said to treat those in mourning with a substance called Nepenthi, an anti-depressant known to chase away sorrow. The plan is frequently mentioned in Greek literature like Homer's The Odyssey, which lead many historians to think it's not real. Others however believe that it was very much real and a widely used drug in Ancient Greece. It is said that Nepenthi originated in Egypt. Its effects have led many to compare it to opium or london as a drug of forgetfulness. Also possible that this plant is still around today, but modern science hasn't identified it. Or maybe Nephathy is just opium. Or might

just be weed. For real, the Greeks did have access to cannabis starting around the time of Herodotus and the 5th century BCE. It is in the pantheon a super good strain of weed that has lost a history. It always keeps you just the right amount of height. Never paranoid, never too sleepy. It is cannabis a great drug which legalize everywhere. Yes. Is it dumb that that hasn't already happened?

For sure. If any of you end up getting your hands on and smoking some actual Greek napente, let me know how cool it is. Now it's time for some real cray, cray fun. Time to head to India. Go back, yeah, even further into history. The ancient text of India often read like something out of a Star Wars movie.

The reference flying machines called Vamanas. Did they actually have machines that could fly a couple thousand years ago in India? Is that some kind of incredible technology we've lost? Mainstream archaeologists and historians will definitely say a hell no. But doesn't that sound exactly like something the illuminati new world order scum would tell us? Well, there are zero archaeological evidence at all for Vamanas being actual ancient flying machines and it's highly unlikely. Machines were just flying around in the days when the rest of humanity were still figuring out how to make a better weapon than a kind of sharp stick.

We're still wiping their asses with leaves. Let's explore this legend anyway because it's super interesting. And because it provides a nice lead in for the first of two of today's equal parts, fun and frustrating idiots of the internet. The word Vamanas in Sanskrit means measuring out or traversing. This term is used to describe palaces, temples, and in many cases, flying palaces or other worldly aerial machines, sometimes known as chariots of the gods, in ancient Hindu sagas, like the Vedas, which originated around 1700 BCE.

The Vamanas are mentioned in the ancient epic poems, the Ramayana, and the Mahabharata, oh my god, I almost had it. Mahabharata, Mahabharata. Poems going back to the 8th or 9th century BCE. The term Vamanas has been around roughly 3000 years, and in the saga, the term shows up other fantastical elements or present, like gods and demons. This is important to give some context for the earliest references for Vamanas. There's Ravana, a great king depicted and described as having ten heads.

Although sometimes he has only nine heads. Because sometimes he sacrificed one of his heads to gain favor with Shiva, one of Hinduism's principal gods. Shiva has three eyes. He had to open his third eye to present light and energy to the world. All of that, you know, open your third eye. All of that goes back to Shiva. Ravana also has a lot of arms. The amount seems to vary. Sometimes he's in kind of like

like a forearm kind of mood. Sometimes he's like eight or you know six arms. Lucky. Which I can vary the amount of my arms. Sometimes when I'm going to bed, I wish I had one arm. The other one just gets in the way or gets like trapped into my pillow and it goes numb and I have to shake it out, you know. Something makes me feel like I thought I had a stroke or something to do the night. Sometimes I wish I had like three arms. I'm trying to eat and check my phone and drive at the same time, which I try not to do because I know that distracted driving is dangerous, but less dangerous if I have three arms. You know, if I had three arms, I could like type out my notes, I could slap Joe Paisiness,

fucking face, and eat a sandwich. That's pretty sweet, you know. It's so fun to have all these arms. Then there's the God King, Cabera, the Lord of wealth, half brother of Ravana, and Cabera is a three-legged one-eyed dwarf with the only eight teeth. So maybe not as much fun to be him. He is rich though, so that's part is cool. And sometimes these fellows are demons. And sometimes they're not, depending on which story you're reading, depends on how hangry they are. To describe these guys further, you have to start explaining the actual Hindu belief system

and we don't have time to get into that today, not even close enough. Way too much history in India for us not to explore it though. Hopefully many times, look forward to future India sex. I just bring all this up to demonstrate the overall tone of these sagas. They're pretty fantastical, full of all kinds of intense imagery. It's not like ancient flying palaces, show up in stories where everything else is totally of this world and totally natural. It's not like there was just a bunch of human people walking around fishing, hunting, picking fruit, playing board games, and suddenly one of them hops on a flying palace. It's what? That was weird. Generally, when we hear about Vamanas today,

we're not even hearing about the ones from the ancient text that we're hearing about ones mentioned in a much more modern book that pretends to be ancient. Vamanas tend to be brought up now in extreme new AG circles, particularly of the ancient aliens variety, and beliefs in flying vessels known as Vamanas, can be traced back to this one book called the Vamanaka Shastra, Vamanaka Shastra. The Vamanaka Shastra very strange text, not only due to its contents, but also because the way it came about. The title translates to Shastra on the topic of the Vamanas, Shastra meaning Hindu scripture. So it presents itself as this holy book where you need to learn anything about Vamanas. This is the book you go to.

But it's not an ancient Hindu text. It was written in Sanskrit in the early 20th century. Sometime between the years 1918 and 1923, long after Sanskrit, stopped being a commonly used language. It's just pretending to be older. India has a population of over 1.4 billion people, as blows my mind. And in 2014, in the census in 2014, it was discovered that only 14,000 of those people,

of all those people, only 14,000, described Sanskrit as their primary language. And I'm guessing many of those speakers were Hindu priests since it's primarily used today in religious ceremonies. There are a few small, very small villages where residents still speak it primarily. But in general, you know, it is the language of ancient India, not the language of today's India. Most Indians, they speak either Hindi or English. According to J.R.

Jozier, who brought the text to public attention in 1952, the Vamanaka Shastra was physically channeled by a 19th century mystic known as Subaraya Shastri, who attributed its spiritually obtained contents to Baradvaja, an ancient Hindu sage he conversed with envisions. So wait! This doesn't even sound even a little bit fishy. Sound so legit! Let's see what accurate knowledge it contains. According to the Vamanikasastra, the Vamanias of the ancient text were aerodynamic flying machines propelled by Mercury vortex engines. Inside

the Vamanikasastra are details of the construction of these unbreakable machines, as well as a number of secrets such as turning the machines invisible, making them motionless, performing supernatural abilities, like causing your enemies to lose consciousness or, you know, photographing the insides of their planes. Uh-huh. I wonder if those features came, you know,

with like deluxe faumanas, or if you got them with a standard faumana. You know, like, like, like, like, you picked up a standard faumana did it come with invisibility, or did you have to pay more for that? This book was translated into Hindi and then into English in 1973. And in 1974, mechanical engineers at the Indian Institute of Science and Bangalore,

they debunked it. They concluded that the contents of the Vamanaka Shastra displayed nothing more than quote, poor concoctions and a complete lack of understanding of simple aeronautics. I don't know, I want to repeat that. This book displayed a complete lack of understanding of simple aeronautics. So the book did not do well with critics, but I love it. Three out of five stars. The Ramanas is described in the book. Couldn't fly because the person who wrote about them didn't fucking know anything about flying.

Just a lunatic. And he had despite being debunked, the Vamanaka Shastra often used today as a source of evidence for the true existing of ancient Indian flying machines and even for ancient aliens. So I feel pretty confident saying that flying Vamanas never existed for sure when 100% did not exist. If they were real, then I guess there also used to be a dude with a bunch of arms and 10 heads walking around. And his half brother was a three-legged one-eyed dwarf demon. And both of them knew another fellow with a magical third eye.

Get the fuck out of here. But, you know, what do I know? Let's take a break from what I think about all this and see what the web thinks about flying Vamanas on today's first of two idiots of the internet. with the web thinks about flying Vamanas on today's first of two idiots of the internet. Okay, so today's YouTube comments, I'm going to be talking about here pulled from underneath the video titled, Ancient Flying Vamanas Recreated, posted by phenomenal travel videos on January 13th, 2015. I'm just going to play a little bit about a minute of how the video

You know kicks off and then I'll explain a lot more detail so you understand What this guy's referencing here. Hey guys. We all know ancient flying machines called Vimana's mentioned in sacred Indian tax. No, but in this video I'll show you documented history where a Vimana actually flew and the British government had to intervene and suppress this technology. In 1895, eight years before the Wright brothers flew their first plane, a man called Shivkar Babhuji Tal Talpati flew an unmanned airplane in front of thousands of people in India. But the really intriguing detail is that he did not depend on modern physics or aviation techniques,

but he created this flying machine entirely based on ancient Indian tax. Nope. Now that's true. I've looked into it pretty thoroughly. This guy just pulled all of that out of his third butthole. His third butthole is open. That's where it gets all of his information. The narrator proceeds to tell a story about Sabaraya Shastri. I apologize to these names. They're lengthy. And that's the dude who supposedly thought,

you know, all this horse shit up, you know, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the Vomonika Shostra, the book that I just went to, to, to, great lengths to prove is, you know, it's not credible. According to this video, that book's author worked with Indian scholar that a ship car guy, he just mentioned for ship car till Friday for 15 years, building a magical flying plane in the mid 19th century in India. And then these guys, suppose you flew out this machine in front of a whole bunch of Indian people and it was so awesome. And then they should have became super famous, but a racist, white and British imperialist government confiscated there for sure real flying ancient spaceship.

And then these British bastards, they threw Chivcar and jail for basically being too fucking cool for school. And now a lot of UFO sightings are actually sightings of flying saucers that have been built using Shift Car stolen technology and you get the idea. It's a bunch of wacky doodle, theosophical type nonsense, very mad and blvatsky. Might as well talk about how Subaraya and Shift Car are still building these flying machines in Atlantis when they're not tinkin' around with time machines and teleporters inside Mount Shasta working with the Lemurians.

Despite this video being obvious, wacky, doodle nonsense. A lot of people just a whole heart of the agree just by everything this narrator has to say man, critical thinking I can't fucking stress enough how important it is to the future of civilization, right? Just because someone makes a cool fucking slide show and puts on YouTube doesn't mean they know fucking anything. So here's a Jeslan Jacob writes, Britishers were true Dickless morons who killed such a great country and they pretend as if they did a great favor salute to our great Indian scientist. All right, easy, Jeslan.

First of all, who says Britishers? Shift Car was not a great scientist. He was a looney-tune. When you actually dig into the story, when you dig into his story, which has been well researched, the flying Vermont he made back in the 19th century was essentially the aviation equivalent of a shitty kid's helium birthday balloon at best. And not even that has been totally verified. Best case, he made something shitty, worst case, he lied about everything.

British colonists did do terrible things, doesn't, but hiding ancient Hindu spaceships and then selling them to the Nazis. Like this video, we'll also later outrageously claim, not one of those things. Mads guy, seven rights. It's very sad that Indians don't take credit for all their inventions.

The media, this is what you know, the media. The media wants to think that most inventions were made in Europe or USA. This comment references the video claiming that Shivkar beat the Wright brothers now into the invention of working aircraft. He did not. Again, all he made when you get into the historical accounts of what actually happened, what you can find is it takes a little more work on the web.

If he wasn't lying, at best he made this crude cylindrical structure, my God, made it a bamboo. A structure that may have been filled with liquid mercury, and if that did happen, then the mercury could have reacted with sunlight, releasing hydrogen, and because hydrogen is lighter than air, that would help this contraption float a bit. He didn't build a man's aviation structure know, aviation structure. It wasn't test flown in front of a large crowd either. It rose to a very small height. If it did rise at all, and then crashed within minutes in front of just a couple of his friends. Again, even if

it did that, there was just a few witnesses. It was not like this guy just described it. It's just a fish story. This is legend grew throughout time. And if you go back to the, you know, original, no, that's none of this is before and then a user multi-clear ski writes before we build a vimana, we must honor Shivkar for his love for our ancient sciences. Shivkar work must be studied in detail and he must be on, it has been studied in detail by your own engineers and they're like, this is fucking horses shit. So you can honor him or you can not honor him because he didn't invent anything. And you'll never build this because it's not real.

Bruno, I just love to just people out there thinking, God, we just got a fucking stupid British. It's like if we could just get our hands on those blue friends, we could totally build these fly machines. Bruno, Galachan posts, suppressing a great minds ideas is the worst crime. This man's work should have deserved credits and encouragement. I feel sad for him.

Being a visionary makes you totally misunderstood by normal people, frowny face. Thank you for sharing this informative video and making me learn something new about history. God damn it. You just, you didn't learn anything about history. YouTube is such a scary place. Tell a story with enough confidence and cite some sources that all tell the same lie. We've gone through this with the conspiracy sucks before you know, a couple people write a couple crazy books, 100, 200 years ago, and then everybody

today just cites those books and acts like those citations give their case validity. Ten minutes to digging, you can easily get to the bottom of this story. Discover it's for sure a myth. Investigate journalists fact checked, it's commonly told story because it became popular, quickly discovered natural. Gary Manpost, thanks for telling the truth. The man never got the recognition he deserved, all because of the British government. He never got recognition because he didn't do anything.

His comments, they make me feel crazy after reading for a while. You know what, make me feel crazy when I think about how in the future, people are gonna be writing comments like this about David Ike and about Alex Jones. For sure, for sure. After they're dead and gone, they're gonna be talking about what great visionaries they were, how the world just didn't believe them because the world's sheepled. We're afraid of the truth. People write this even though there's guys never actually told any hidden important truths.

Now these people, they don't tell important truths. People believe them. I wish stupid didn't sell so well. Basil Abdul Wahab writes, I am interested in recreating our traditional demonis. I'm always curious and researching, I'm always curious and researching on ancient aliens. And I talk more about it to my friends, but they make fun of me as they should. Your friends sound smart and logical. You talk a fucking crazy talk. You're not going to recreate some flying from Monika, because

you can't recreate what didn't exist in the first place. I'd like to recreate something that allows me to build pyramids with my mind, but I'm not going to, because it's not real. Garov Salanski, last one writes, sorry, no one can recreate it because everyone is busy making money from apps rather than innovation or discovering things, money ruined the world. And the reason no major inventions have been made this decade, what are you talking about? No inventions have been made in the past decade. How about test electric cars, self driving cars, iPads, the curiosity, the Mars rover,

bipedal robots that can run human life through obstacle courses. And there would be huge money. What do you have? There's no money in this. You could make it. No, there would be huge money if you could create a little spaceship by the size of your car that can move up and down and back and forth to the air with ease. It can just stop and mid-air like it has some kind of weird air breaking just hover there.

You would make so much money if you can invent that you moron. If you made that pretty soon, only the poorest of the poor would be driving cars and trucks. Everyone else is zipping around of a monos because it'd be the coolest thing ever. This video has 10,000 likes, only 400 dislikes. And the comment section is a terrifyingly wackadoodle echo chamber, 1400 comments roughly, I didn't see one that said anything to the effect of the fuck you guys talking about.

And the YouTube channel that uploads this video or uploaded it pumps out nothing but other wacky new to videos and they have over 500,000 subscribers. Please, me and text, please don't fall for shit like this. I please be better than this. Like look into things, really dig into stories before you decide to believe them or not. I can't want to believe in magic. It's fun. I don't like I don't like shitting on the magic parade.

I want to believe these stories, but there's no point in pretending that this shit is real when it's obviously not it's dangerous. To think that it is real. Believe in and flying to a monster requires you to also believe that powerful secretive forces have taken these things away. They're hiding mind-blowingly incredible advances from the rest of us. They're hiding flying saucers. What else do you hide? It's probably hiding the cure to cancer? So why keep looking for it? Probably also brainwashing us, you know, and government funded public schools and universities. So why go to school? Wake up and drop out, sheeple. You learn everything you need to know from YouTube. Learn everything you need to know from phenomenal travel videos. You see how slippery this belief slope really is? I fucking beg you.

Think critically. I spent way too much time there night trying to, you know, logic proof and anti-flying persona argument. And I know that no matter what I say, no matter what I come up with, there will be certain people who'll find this video eventually on YouTube and be like, oh, he's fucking just bought off by the government.

He isn't what he's talking about. He just, you know, he thinks his sources are superior to my sources. Oh, he thinks, you know, investigative journalism is superior to some fucking jack Oh, he thinks, you know, investigative journalism is superior to some fucking jackass pulling shit out the butt. So what are we living? Well, we're, you know, one person's lies

can just butterfly effect their way into wacky doodle movements that far outlive their creators. Don't become another idiot of the internet, Mietzex. You beautiful, critical bastards. They're already way, way too many. Idiots, I'll be into that, into that. There are already way way too many. Okay, calming down now. Before we leave India, let's look at some last technology we can actually see in touch at least. The Iron Pillar of Delhi.

It's almost 2,000 year old piece of iron seems almost impervious to rust. The Iron Pillar of Delhi is an early 24 foot iron pillar located in the 14th century Kutab Muslim complex, weighs more than six tons, made up of 98% rot iron. The pillar is ornate, but hardly awe inspiring unless one knows just how long a mysterious history is. The iron pillar predates the complex. It was forged 1600 years ago, moved to Delhi roughly a thousand years ago before the mosque. It stands in front of was even built.

The purpose of the Iron Pillar is one of its many mysteries. Excuse me, some say it was a flagstaff made for a king. Others say it's a sundial. No one knows who moved the pillar a thousand years ago, or how it was moved, or even why it was moved. Many insist that the Iron Pillar of Delhi should be dust by now. Other exposed iron artifacts created around the same time have turned to dust. It was just a nigma which led some people to include the iron pillar in a group of objects known as uparts or out of place artifacts. These objects are said to be in some way

unreasonably futuristic for their time. As if they'd come from another place and time and or and or were created by non-human gods or or aliens Some of these out of place artifacts have been shown to be outright hoaxes of course they have Such as the Kazo artifact is spark plugs said to be found embedded in a chunk of rock 500,000 years ago In fact, it was just some 1920s champion spark plug It just had developed a little shell of iron oxide concentration rust around which made it look like it was inside of a rock Whoops Sorry, I guess I was I'm off on that one. Some discoveries. I've turned out to be a case of underestimating the technological capabilities of the people of the past,

such as the anti-chtheore mechanism we already discussed. The iron pillar in Delhi is an absolute testament to the high level of skill achieved by ancient Indian ironsmiths, but it is not an example of lost technology, not misplaced. The reason the pillars that avoided corrosion from the rains, winds and temperature fluctuations over the last 600 years is not due to magical metallurgy techniques. It hasn't rusted like it should have because of the accidental formation of a passive protective film. The film was created through a complicated combination of the lack of lime and the furnaces used to make the iron pillar, the presence of raw slag and unreduced iron in the pillar, and the wetting and drying cycles of the local

weather, all of which combined to create a one-twentieth of a millimeter thick layer of mesawite on the pillar. Mesawite is a compound of iron, oxygen, and hydrogen, and it does not rust. But that scientific explanation is just too boring for a lot of people. Not sexy enough. Not as sexy as ancient astronauts. So, you know, people choose to believe that ancient metalworkers, you know, creating a 6 ton 24 high iron pillar, some 600 years ago, just not a cool enough story. But that's the truth. That's what it is. So, let's head now to the Middle East and look into Damascus steel. Something that did for sure exist was for sure incredible and the ability to make it

has for sure been lost. This is another very popular piece of lost technology. The remarkable characteristics of Damascus steel, Damascus steel, excuse me, became known to Europe when the Crusaders reached the Middle East beginning in the 11th century. They discovered the swords of this metal could split a feather in midair that retained their edge through many of battle. Those swords were easily recognized by the characteristic watery Damascus pattern on their blades. the swords of this metal could split a feather in midair that retain their edge through many of battle. Those swords were easily recognized

by the characteristic watery, damask pattern on their blades. Although modern high carbon steels made using the 19th century Bessamer process actually do surpass the quality of Damascus steel, it does remain an outstanding material, particularly forth day. Sorry if you're hoping for something

there along the lines of and scientists, things that either dwarves, elves, or hobbits made these remarkable sorts that no modern swords are even closed use fucking cool at. That doesn't mean that Damascus steel wasn't cool though. It was way stronger than anything their contemporaries could create. I mean, isn't that in and of itself pretty amazing? The secrets of Damascus steel were shared by armors in many parts of the ancient world, notably in Persia, where some of the finest specimens were produced. It was in this quenching or hardening process that many believed had acquired its magical properties.

According to Dr. Helmut Nickel, that's kind of a cool name, Dr. Helmut Nickel, a curator of the arms and armor division of the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, legend had it that the blades were quenched in dragon blood. Man, that would be cool. That's even cooler than elves. I'll be amazing if that were true. I could die happy if I owned an elf sword, quenched in some Dragonblood. Well, Dragonblood was never used to quenche swords.

Somebody evil smith, and check that this is weird. Did you use the urine of red-headed boys? Or that from a three-year-old goat fed only ferns for three days? And you might think I'm kidding. No. Some ancient sword makers, according to some random ancient legend, Or that from a three year old goat fed only ferns for three days and you might think I'm kidding no Some ancient sword makers courting some random ancient legend Did think it was a good thing to do to ask young ginger boys to piss on cooling steel To make their swords stronger, and I think that's hilarious

I wonder if they got paid for that I used to make money mo neighborhood lawns not like 56 seventh grade I wonder if some of the evil kids, you know made some some dough, made a little bit scratch, pissed on some sorts. That's wake-hooler. I would have gladly pissed on some sorts. And they probably even got, you know, got to drink ale to produce the piss. That's the best summer job ever. Get drunk and piss on some sorts.

I'm already focused now. It's unclear exactly why Damascus steel is called Damascus steel. The steel may have been made in Damascus at some point. The pattern does somewhat resemble Damascus. The Damascus pattern is certainly true Damascus steel. The steel may have been made in Damascus at some point. The pattern does somewhat resemble Damascus. The Damascus pattern is certainly true Damascus steel became a popular trade item. Through the ages, perhaps from the time of Alexander the Great in the 4th century BCE, the armors who made swords, shields, and armor from such steel were rigidly secretive regarding their method. And then with the advent of firearms, the secret would lost and never fully rediscovered. No one has replicated the original method of making Damascus steel because it was cast

from woots, a type of steel originally made in India over 2,000 years ago. The techniques for making woots were lost in the 1700s, so the source material for Damascus steel was lost, you know, with this metal. A great deal of research and reverse engineering has been done to replicate, you know, Damascus steel. No one has successfully cast a similar material. So Damascus steel, true loss technology. Now it's time to focus our gaze on Rome and a handful of their lost innovations or at least innovations that were lost for a long time. And Rome will check out a special kind of flexible glass, a pretty special cement recipe and a kind of birth control that was used by so many sex hungry Roman heathens that the plant it was derived from became extinct.

First up, the mystery of an ancient cement from Rome has recently been cracked, and it might actually help the modern world reduce this carbon footprint. History contains many references to ancient concrete, including the writings of the famous Roman scholar, Pliny the Elder. Pliny lived in the first century, CE, wrote that the best maritime concrete was made from volcanic ash found in regions around the Gulf of Naples, especially from near the modern day town of Pazuli. Its virtues became, virtues became so well known that ash with similar mineral characteristics, no matter where it was found in the world, have been dubbed a Pazolin.

By analyzing the mineral components of the cement taken from the Pizzoli Bay breakwater at the laboratory of UC Berkeley, as well as facilities in Saudi Arabia and Germany, the international team of researchers discovered the secret to Roman cement's durability back in 2013. They found that the Romans made their concrete

by mixing lime and volcanic rock to form a mortar and then to build underwater structures, this mortar and volcanic rock was packed into wooden forms, and then the sea water soaking into the forms triggered a chemical reaction through which water molecules hydrated the lime, reacted with the ash, just cement everything together. The resulting calcium, aluminum, silicate, hydrate bond, cash bond was exceptionally strong by comparison, Portland cement, the most common modern concrete blend lacks this lime volcanic ash combination and doesn't bind as well as ancient Roman concrete.

It starts falling apart much quicker. The Romans, those meat sacks, knew how to build. The Roman Colosseum is almost 2000 years old and still standing. Portland cement in use for almost two centuries tends to wear down particularly quickly in seawater with the service life of less than 50 years. In addition, the production of Portland cement produces a sizable amount of carbon dioxide, one of the most damaging of the greenhouse gases. According to Paolo Montero, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at the

University of California Berkeley and the lead researcher of the team analyzing the Roman concrete, manufacturing the 19 billion tons of Portland cement will use every year accounts for 7% of the carbon dioxide that industry puts out into the ear. In addition, to being more durable than Portland cement, Roman concrete also appears to be more sustainable to produce. To manufacture Portland cement, carbon is emitted by burning fuel used to heat a mix of limestone and clays to 1450 degrees Celsius, 2,642 degrees Fahrenheit, as well-mix of limestone and clays to 14, 50 degrees Celsius, 2,642 degrees Fahrenheit, as well as by the heated limestone calcium carbonate itself.

To make their concrete Romans used much less lime and made it from limestone baked at 900 degrees Celsius, 1,652 degrees Fahrenheit, or lower, a process that used up much less fuel. Montero and his colleagues also suggested that adopting materials and production techniques used by ancient Romans could also produce much longer lasting concrete. So let's get some of this shit on the freeways and roads of this country, ASAP. And Spokane Valley, I've hit potholes that felt like they were actually going to rip a tire off of me. Off my truck, I don't have tires. And we're just, you know, just worked on it a few years before.

Montero estimates that Pizzolan, which can be found in many parts of the world, could potentially replace 40% of the world's demand for Portland cement. If this is the case, ancient Roman builders may be responsible for making a truly revolutionary impact on modern architecture. One massive concrete structure to time, how cool is that? Seriously, this is one of my favorites so far. You know, ancient technology lost for centuries,

quite possibly making a huge comeback today. Amazingly, the concrete technology developed two millennia ago could be better than what we commonly used today. Onward to another bit of lost Roman technology. This is a fun story about flexible glass. Imagine glass you could bend or dent and then watch a return to its original form. A glass you could drop and not break. Story saved that an ancient Roman glassmaker had the technology to create a flexible glass, Vittrium Flexili.

It was supposedly invented during the reign of the Roman Emperor, Tiberius Caesar, between 14 and 37 CE. Legend has it that the craftsman who invented the stuff brought a drinking bowl made a flexible glass before Caesar, who tried to break it, wear upon the material dented, rather than shattering. The inventor who repaired the bowl easily, or then repaired the bowl easily, excuse me,

with a small hammer, after the inventor swore to the emperor that he alone knew the technique of how to manufacture this. Tiberius had the man's headcoff afraid this material would undermine the value of golden silver. That sucks. That's true. And if that story is true, what a rollercoaster of a day for that dude. He wakes up all nervous. You know, like, I made a presentation right.

Oh, God, I hope this works. This could really change everything for me. You know, really hoping that the emperor loves his invention. Oh, God, please work. And then it does work. And the emperor's like blown away. And he's like, yeah, this is so great. I can't believe I'm so happy.

I just, I'll make as much as you want. And then he's just fucking head cut off. The Roman historian Pliny expressed his doubts about the truth of the story though, writing this story, however, was for a long time more widely spread than well authenticated. Today, the story of Roman flexible glass mainly treated in the same manner as it had been by Pliny, that is with much doubt. What if it was true? What if he developed a superior glass formula just like the Roman builders developed a superior

concrete formula? It's whenever now. I mean, it's probably not true. But the technology if it did exist is lost, which is a real bummer for billions of people who use cell phones Get tired of their screens cracking when they're dropped. Can you imagine how much money that you would make if you invented that glass now? Flexible glass Android iPhone iPad screens Flexible glass computer screen flexible glasses in your glasses on your face Flexible glass windshield computer screen, flexible glasses in your glasses on your face. Flexible glass windshields. If any listener can figure out how to make miraculously bendy

and unbreakable glass, I'm going to cut you in a deal. Check this out. I'm going to let you advertise here on TimeSug for free in exchange for only 50% of the profits you make from bendy glass. Deal? You make me that deal. I'll let you ride in my hovercraft made out of nuts and mitt flexible bendy glass and Damascus steel once a week. Now let's talk about ancient birth control. The Romans allegedly invented an incredible birth control method called the pull out. Romans would allegedly pull some type of fleshy appendage out of some type of fleshy hole before it would quote, shoot all over the place. And scientists haven't been able to figure out what they're talking about. No, the legend is that the Romans found a wildly effective herbal contraceptive.

And it became so popular that they used up all of the plants they needed to have to make it. The mysterious herb, this is, this might be actually my favorite story in all of these stories today. The mysterious herb was known as sylphium. Sylphium was a plant, possibly related to parsley, which was used as a culinary additive, a topical ointment or sof, medicine, medication for several ailments, most relevant to this discussion as a form of birth control as well. It was cultivated in the oldest Greek city in North Africa, called serene, or syrene, excuse me, syrene now in Libya.

Sylphium became so important to serenian economy that depictions of the plant appear on almost all of its currency. And the plant was a staple in the toolkits of physicians and mystics across the Mediterranean for at least 700 years. The plant first appears in historical records dating from the 7th century BCE Egypt, where we know it was part of medicinal recipes for contraception and abortion, as well as remedies for anything from coughs and sore throws to leprosy treatments and it was used as a wart remover.

So it probably even worked on getting rid of hand job facewarts. In fact, which there is no cure for now. In fact, the Egyptians and Minowans, each developed specific symbols or higher glyphics to represent the plant, which clearly illustrates the importance that enjoyed in these early Mesopotamian cultures. Nearly every part of the plant was used from the stock to the resin to the tuber-like roots and it became so popular that it was over-cold-vated and sold into extinction by the first century BCE.

Plenty of the elder claims in natural history that the very last stock of Sylphium ever harvested was given to Roman Emperor Nero as an oddity and that that son of a bitch promptly ate it because he was a selfish dickhead. There are those, however, who believe that it's not extinct, but just a misidentified. But this has never been proven. It is sadly very likely as extinct as the Dodo bird. While the physical plant no longer with this sylphium is still around symbolically, this is my favorite part of this, my favorite story, I think, is you may have heard that the

common heart symbol, right, our little heart, the classic heart symbol, which is shaped nothing like an actual heart is actually a representation of either the stylized shape of the female buttocks. That's what I like the heart or the pubic mound, huh? Irvana's heart shaped box or that it's a medieval depiction of various flowering plants, such as fig leaves, ivy, or water lilies? No. That shape comes from this ancient Miracle herb. The first use of the familiar double tier-shaped heart symbol

and historical record is on the currency of Syrene. The now iconic heart shape, believed by most to be a reproduction of the visual appearance of the sylphium seed. I've looked up images of these coins, and it really is the exact shape of the romantic heart that we use today. Thought that was some pretty cool trivia. Hey, I'll lose to Faina.

What a bummer, man. What if this plant really was a miracle elixir and a form of birth control way better than anything available now? And the ancient Romans fucked it into extinction. It abums me out. I know it's not, you know, really a technology. Well, but I mean, but medicine, you know, if the plan's gone, then any kind of medicinal technology around it, you know, it just becomes lost. Stupid Nero,

I mostly blame him. Okay, now let's head to the Middle East and hope for some good news, which I doubt we're going to get because this suck after all is called lost technology. Not, oh, I'm so glad we found this technology. The Baghdad battery, or the batteries of Babylon, were found in 1938 by a German archaeologist. These alleged batteries could be up to 2000 years old, consisted of a clay jar, copper cylinder, and an iron rod. It filled with a weak acid like vinegar, the combination could have produced

around one volt of electricity. So, we're ancient people using electricity, Q, ancient alien steam song. No, probably not. Well, even some experts do refer to it as a battery. It's true purpose remains unclear. One idea is that it was used for electroplating objects with precious metals, which is awesome, just in its own right. Similar objects from a salusia were used for storing sacred papyri. So perhaps the Baghdad battery also disused to store papyri as well.

These batteries were among objects looted from the Iraqi National Museum in Baghdad during the invasion by the USA and its allies in 2003 and sadly, now they're gone. And we don't know what happened to them. You know, something that they may not exist anymore. Something that for sure does still exist and is one of the most common sources of lost technology speculation, the pyramids of Giza. And I'll let these pyramids of Giza kind of represent all ancient stone structures because the same arguments exist around all of them, which is, you know, how could somebody have

built this so many hundreds of thousands of years ago with primitive tools, so rather than break all of them down individually, let's just look at the most famous, the pyramids of Giza. We spent some time investigating the pyramids in Napoleon's S individually, let's just look at the most famous, the pyramids of Giza. We spent some time investigating the pyramids in Napoleon's Suck, 134, talking about the Cleopatra. One of the most common things you will hear from folks about the pyramids is that we couldn't build those today. And I know we talked about pyramids also in some earlier, like real early time sucks as

well. You know, people don't just say this about pyramids. There are megalith stones as part of Monuments and Structures all over the world. Like the Incons structures. They all raise the same questions. How do they fucking get these big heavy rocks and carve them so precisely without diamonds and lasers? Look to YouTube, you find a lot of people who just say something effective.

Ha, da, aliens. But we're going to look a little further than that. What do the experts think? Could we actually build these massive structures today? Modern archaeologists say they know how the ancients did build these structures. Engineers think that they could for sure replicate these structures given a big enough budget and enough time and enough manpower. The current theory regarding the building of the great pyramid of Giza is that it was assembled from inside out via a spiraling internal ramp.

Following this building plan experts say we could replicate the wonder of the ancient world for a cool five billion. But how did they do it almost 5,000 years ago? First, let's look at the blueprint. The pyramid is 750-6 feet long on each side, 481 feet high, composed of 2.3 million stones weighing nearly three tons each for a total mass of 6.5 million tons. And legend has it that the structure was erected in just 20 years time, meaning that a block had to have been moved into place about every five minutes day and night.

You know, that pace would have required the labor of thousands, but thousands are thought to have worked on it. The Roman historian Herodotus, while told it took just 20 years to build, also told it the crew working on it numbered roughly 100,000 laborers. Previous theories held that the pyramid was built via a long external ramp, and we don't know. I mean, he was told it was 20 years. That doesn't mean it did happen in 20 years time for sure. Previous theories held that the pyramid was built via a long external ramp.

A ramp that would have had to wind around for more than a mile to be shallow enough to drag stones up and it would have had a stone volume twice out of the pyramid itself, but the new, more economical theory, gaining traction amongst architects and Egyptologists, holds that the bottom third of the pyramid's height was constructed by stones that were dug, uh, drug up, external ramp, but above that, for the remaining 33% or so, the pyramidal volume, the Egyptians worked their way up through the inside of the structure, building around a gently sloping internal ramp of fitting stone blocks into place as they ascended. Furthermore, the workers could have reused the stones,

quarried for the external ramp to build the pyramids up or echelons so that nothing went to waste. Jean-Pierre Houdin, French architect who developed the internal ramp theory, has collaborated with the team at Dissol Systems, a 3D graphics firm, to create a virtual model of the construction process. A team of scholars at LeValle University in Quebec is now planning an infrared imaging investigation which could reveal the spiraling ramp within the Great Pyramid.

If found, it would be final proof of Houdin's theory. But whether or not the theory bears out, Houdin says an inside-out construction would still be the best way to build a Great Pyramid. I am quite sure we could do the same today and it would be the most economical method he said in an interview. There will be two main differences between pyramid building now and then first he said instead of people pulling the sleds to carry the

stones up the ramps, you would use something with an engine. Secondly, for the top most 10 or 15 meters, you would use a small crane. Justice cranes are lifted on the top of skyscrapers today, a helicopter would opposition a crane into a flat top of the pyramid. Stones and other construction materials dragged up to that level via the internal ramp would then be set in place by the crane. It wouldn't be feasible to build the entire structure with cranes, which would be instead because they wouldn't be able to reach far enough to lift materials from the base to the center of the top of the pyramid. While the pyramid was originally built by thousands of workers over the course of 20

years using strength, sleds, and ropes, building the pyramids today using stone carrying vehicles, cranes and helicopters would probably take about 2000 workers, take them about five years and again cost around five billion. And that's based based on manpower and the cost of constructing the Hoover Dam and the Colorado River during the Great Depression. That dam contains volume of concrete, roughly equal to the stone volume of the pyramid. So in conclusion, ancients could have built the pyramids with technology they had access to and we could build them now with new technology. So really, mystery solved.

I am beyond impressed by the architectural abilities of the ancient planners of these wonders, like the great pyramids of Giza. But I've never really like been left wondering like, oh my God, how could they build these huge structures without modern technology? Because they just were able to devote so much more manpower to these things than we could now and so much such a higher percentage of wealth, you know, over their nation. Because back then you just got to tell laborers what to do, like, you know, or they fucking die. You know, they're like, like, like, we can build a lot of cool gigantic monuments

now. If we just didn't care at all about environmental impact, didn't care at all about the cost, and didn't care at all about the labor. Like, if we were able to force, you know, a hundred thousand workers to literally work themselves to death in order to get something done, yeah, we can build a bunch of cool, big, fucking stone shit. Another popular, but highly unlikely bit

of pyramid-lost technology also comes out of Egypt, to what can only be described as the inevitable and highly seductive religion of ancient astronaut theorists, a symbol found in the Egyptian, then dera temple complex. Vagley resembles a modern light bulb, with a squiggly filament inside and a plug at the bottom. So that must be proof that the Egyptians had electricity. This theory claims that the pyramids and obelisks are power stations and power lines respectively and a lot of people believe in this possibility because it's fun to believe in weird shit.

Trained archaeologists say that the symbol depicts a creation myth of the time. The plug is the lotus flower that represents life rising from primordial waters and the filament signifies a snake. But ancient aliens fanatics don't give a shit about that kind of stuff. They don't care what illuminati puppet experts think about anything. They think Egyptians were given the power of electricity by their gods who were actually aliens, who helped them build the pyramids. When I think about this argument, you know, when people choose to believe this ancient, you know, astronaut alien kind of theory, I always just think, you have a why didn't the

aliens then give them better things like better take it if they had, if they had all this crazy alien technology, then give them some spaceships, give them some laser guns, give them some Wi-Fi. Why did he just give them the ability to big ass fucking stone buildings? Give them central AC. I'm guessing if they had the choice between central AC and electricity over a giant stone tomb, they would pick electricity. Over a giant stone tomb, they would pick electricity. Also, no electrical wires, glass bulbs, metal filaments, or electric power stations have ever been excavated.

And again, ancient alien believers, they don't care about that. Evidence, schmevidence. Now let's look at some advancements that may have been lost more recently. Let's talk about some modern tech. Start with the, you know, by comparison, comparatively modern.

Let's start with the Stradivary violin. In the violin making world two names, reign above all others. Antonio Stradivary and Jerry McCracken. Jerry McCracken violins will go for, I don't know, billion, two billion, no. Their name is Giuseppe Guarneri. Both masters lived during the late 17th and 18th centuries, early 18th centuries. They both lived in the same small town in Northern Italy called Cremona. They both garnered reputation for making the best stringed instruments in the world. Why? Why can't modern violin makers make violins

that musical prodigies think sound as good as those old, you know, as fiddles? I don't know why anyone cares about this. Just fucking play the air banjo. Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't these old fiddles. Well, because, you know, those two guys sold their souls to be else above. Wake up. That's the suck.

It's really about the devil. Loose first behind all this. Uh, no. Uh, loothe years, not talking about loother, Satan, aka violent makers, have tirelessly tried to imitate strata varies and guarnese, uh, guanarities, craftsmanship. Ever since those dudes died. Copying their wood choice, geometry, construction methods, but they just can't replicate the rich sound of those instruments why for hundreds of years the best violin players have almost

unanimously said they prefer a strativary or a winery instrument why nobody has been able to replicate the sound remains one of the most enduring mysteries of instrument building a more recent study published in December of 2016 in the proceedings of the national Academy of Sciences, a magazine with a circulation of about five people. Suggested answers may lie in the wood. Mineral treatments, followed by centuries of aging and transformation from plain, might have given these instruments unique tonal qualities that are impossible to replicate now. If you compare Stradivari's maple with modern high quality maple wood, that is almost the

same, the two woods are very different. Says Juan Chiang Tai, a professor of chemistry at the National Taiwan University in an author of the paper. In the study done in collaboration with the Chimai Museum in Taiwan, Dr. Tai and his colleagues use five analytical techniques to assess wood shavings from two Stradivary violins, two Stradivary cellos, and one Gornary violin.

Their measurements yielded several major findings. First, they found evidence of chemical treatments containing aluminum, calcium, copper, and other elements, a practice lost to later generations of violin makers. They don't know they're KFC recipe. Modern Lutherans don't do this, said Henry, Gracino Meyer, a geography professor at the University of Tennessee Knoxville, who studies tree rings and did not participate in this research. This paper is the first to convince me to some kind of mineral infusion into wood might cause the period of sound and musical instrument.

It's unknown whether the tonal results of these treatments were coincidence or whether the old masters knew beforehand that the chemicals would have that effect, Dr. Tyson. He said he thought the chemicals were probably first applied by forest workers who soaked wood and minerals to ward off fungus and worms before sale. Over time, the salts may have hardened the wood through chemical bonds. The researchers also discovered that one third of a wood component known as hemicelulose had decomposed in strativary and granary instruments, because hemicelulose naturally absorbs a lot of moisture.

The effect was that the instruments had about 25% less water than recent models. This is fundamentally important because the less moisture, the more brilliant the sound. So, Joseph, Nagvary, Aluthier, and a professor emeritus, I think I got that word right this time, of biochemistry at Texas A&M University who is not involved in the study. In comparison with other violins, Stradivary and Gwenaerii instruments are known for possessing rich, dark, bass tones, and a quality known as brilliance, or the ability to project a clean, high frequency sound that tickles your ear from far away. Dr. Nugavari said, Dr. Ties' team also found a property in the Stavary violin samples, but not the cellos.

When they heated the wood shavings of the violins, they found an extra peak in oxidation, which implies the detachment between wood fibers. This detachment, possibly the result of centuries of vibrations from plain, may give the instruments greater expressiveness. Topvine violinists often feel like these old violins vibrate more freely, which allows them to express a wider set of emotions. For a while, people suggested that the luthiers had simply used trees that have gone extinct, but in fact, the trees they used do still exist. Experts can test it's try to very secret-headed to do with the fact that he had lived during an extremely cold period known as the little ice age and the trees around him were growing differently.

How exact that may have produced better instruments, however, remains unclear. Experts also say that with their continued decomposition, many of these instruments will lose their acoustics in the next century. And when they're gone, we may truly lose any additional secrets they possess. And what if, and I'm not kidding, the real secret to these instruments was that those guys jerked off on their violins and rubbed the semen into the wood, to tear me out? What if they hired locals to jerk off on their violins

so they could rub so much semen into that wood, like, I like so much? I doubt scientists have tested for that possibility. Or even more disgusting, what if those wily old violin makers shit on those violins and they rub their shit into the wood? And that's what makes it sound so good. Or, all mammals, I'm almost done. Maybe most disturbing. What if they realize that only a combination of fresh semen,

feces, and blood can really make a violin really sing? I know that's insane, but pretty funny for me to think about people paying millions for these violins. I mean, many models are worth over 10 million in a piece now because they sound so good only to find out the reason they sound so good is these guys were shitting and bleeding and pissing on them. Sounds, you know what? Sometimes I think I should see a therapist. For the next bit of lost tech, you might think I'm fuck with you and you might not trust me after all the other crazy stuff said to you over the last couple years. But this is real.

This is literally bananas, but it's real. An actual variety of sexiest nana. Once used to make tasty ass nana candy, it was lost to history for a time but now is making a small comeback. I know this really isn't a piece of, you know, like, tech. I'm talking about this, but in my gut, the story kind of fits today's tale as well as it's just interesting. It's an interesting tale about produce.

And some of you know that historically, I have loved produce more than the average meat sack. Let's talk about a lost banana. You know the flavor of banana, that's in all the taffy like candies that are genius enough to include a Nana flavor. The flavor that in my opinion tastes better than an actual banana, well, that flavor comes from a real fruit. It comes from what was once the banana of choice for a good chunk of the world.

But now, unless you're in Miami or in a handful of other cities willing to find a supplier of exotic fruits, you won't find this Nana. It almost went as extinct as old Roman birth control. For most of the world, all we have to remember this lost Nana by now is that our artificial flavor. Before the mid-19th century, very few citizens of the United States had bitten into an actual banana, and possibly no one had tried to fuck appeal in a grocery store bathroom. Hey, it wasn't that no one had ever tasted banana.

The fruit just wasn't common in the US at that time. And yes, I'm gonna just move forward as if I didn't make that bathroom comment. And then a coffee platter. In Jamaica introduced Americans to a new banana cultivar. He'd acquired in the Caribbean island of Martinique, the Grommeshelle. There were a number of red and yellow banana varieties

in the United States at the time, but Big Mike, as the Grommeshelle, was affectionately termed, eventually best of them all and became top Nana. Big Mike's dominance, the American banana market had little to do with taste and a lot to do with shipping. The variety of Nana has a thick hearty skin that is resistant to bruising. Bunches have grown Michelle typically grow more hands, the word for an individual banana bunch. They grow tightly together, making them easier to say toss them to a ship and transport. In addition, a long ripening period allows the Grotemichelle to transform into its characteristic

shiny bright yellow as it made its way across the ocean. And come across the ocean it did, the Grotemichelle came to dominate the banana industry, and it was the primary variety of banana that Americans happily munched on for the first half of the 20th century. But then big Mike got sick, came down with some kind of nanodiscentary, some kind of nanotabies, some kind of nanodiscentary, some kind of nanotabies, some kind of nanocancer. In the 1950s, various fungal plagues, most notably banana disease, or Panama disease,

devastated banana crops. By the 1960s, the grown Michelle was effectively extinct in terms of large scale growing and selling. And that's when the Cavendish and Poster asked Nana showed up. A banana cultivar resistant to the fungal plague, a banana that didn't taste as good, but still pretty sexy. And a Cavendish is a sexy nan that we eat today. But the

remnants of the nearly extinct flavor that the Groma show remained preserved on our candies. And while the Cavendish may have a more familiar banana taste to us today, those candies invoke the first nanas that captivated the American public in Philadelphia in 1876 when they first showed up.

When you're peeling back the wrapper of a banana laffy taffy, you're effectively stepping into a little time machine, heading back to it to a day when bananas taste like candy. Bummer, some people think big Mike is poised for a comeback. I hope so. Who wouldn't want even taste your nannis? And what I want right now is more nannis talk. And I'm gonna get it with the second and final idiots

of the internet. There's no rule that says we can't do to but first last sponsor. Time suck is brought to you today by old Klondike's Schluss discovery service. No one is better at making you money by finding anything that you've lost, including technology than old Klondike. For this 9999 old Klondike will come to your home or office or random place in the wood or middle of the creek or just wherever and He'll set up a slewce and he'll get to sifting He can find anything cars keys glasses phones car keys rings hair ties wallets pens gloves socks pets hymns sanity control jobs

Whatever you lost all clonike can find it Hey, and I didn't lose shirts. You can you can call me O'Klondak. No one can exclusive shift like O'Klondak. I once found someone's there, they lost it and O'Klondak lost track of it. Ruby has been in my list, and forty pounds of gold and the Georgia apartment complex playground is just as I'm making. Set me upon your dirt and you'll be rich in a lick of this split. I swear, true. Everything I say is true on my name ain't old clown duck. Timesuck is in no way tied to the claims of old clown.

I can please keep in mind we consider retaining services that's name is not in fact old clown duck. That's fun. A non-murder character from the bell gonna suck. And now more fun with another Idiots of the internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is the internet. Oh, let's take a final break from talking about inventions. Talk a little more about nanos. This time we turn to a Christian apologist and, you know, a man of the faith from Australia

named Ray Comfort. And don't worry, Christian suckers. I'm not going to make fun of him for having religious beliefs. That's not why this video is funny to me. But in this video, Ray, along with former sitcom star Kirk Cameron from Growing Paints, as dishing out what he calls the atheist worst nightmare, not understanding how he discredits his own argument by not understanding the history of the object he's holding a banana. Ray presents the argument that the Christian God has created many things on Earth specifically

for man to enjoy by demonstrating how brilliantly God designed our modern banana. But he's wrong about one little thing. God didn't design the banana he's holding, man did. So Ray is our idiot today. Seems like a nice guy, but made a real dumb video with Kirk. The modern day banana didn't exist centuries ago, any more than dogs like my two Labradoros, Penny, and Ginger did. Actually the very first banana, nothing at all,

like the healthy and tasty treat we know today, it was thick and tart and full of seeds, it was hardly even edible. Only after humans manipulated the genes over many, many, many generations through selective breeding did mankind get to really enjoy the banana of the present. Ray's using the banana to illustrate the point that God made the banana work for man.

You know, that's the point he's made, but the reality is that, you know, man manipulated nature to make it work for him. Now, I do understand that the argument could be made that God gave man the ability to change the fruit for himself, but that's not the point that Ray is making specifically in this video. So let's listen to him in a short video. It's only a minute and five seconds long. Hear him talk about the atheist worst nightmare. Hold this, Rick. The whole the atheist nightmare.

Now, if you study a well-made banana, you'll find on the far side, there are three ridges. On the close side, two ridges. If you get your hand ready to grip a banana, you'll find on the far side, there are three grooves on the close side, two grooves. For banana and the hand are perfectly made one for the other. You'll find a maker of the banana, or mighty goddess, made it with a non-slip surface. It has outward indicators of inward content, screen, two early, yellow, just right, right black too late. If you go to the top of the granana you'll find as with a soda can makers they place the tab at the top so God has placed a tab at the top. Pull the tab, the content's toned screwed in your face. You'll find a wrapper which is biodegradable has

perforations. Notice how gracefully it sits over the human hand. Notice has a point at the top for ease of entry. It's just the right shape for the human mouth. Yep. It's chewy, easy to digest. It's even curved toward the face to make the whole process so much easier. Even through the process. The creation testifies to the genius of God's creative heart. Okay, so that's his big argument. And a little different kind of idiocy that you're going to write now. The comments are not idiotic. The comments are hilarious. Just the presentation is pretty idiotic.

I love the atheist worst nightmare. And then he holds up a fruit heavily manipulated by scientists. For the example, user Bruce writes, yes, bananas fit your hand. They also along with cucumbers, fit up your butt. So God must be a butt bandit. It made me laugh out loud when I first read it. Tyler Jarvis also made me laugh out loud when he wrote, oh man, I must have gotten a broken banana. Mine curves away from my face. Lee and Fahrenheit writes, oh my God, but who created coconuts?

Good question. Not easy to open. Cassandra answers the devil, of course. Sounds about right, the coconut, Satan's Nana. God cuts you down rights. This only proves the existence of the benedict God. Julian, Nicolay, Fredritching rights. I'd also like him to explain the penis. Another comment that made me laugh so hard.

Can you imagine that video? Just Ray talking about how penis is work. Is Australian accent? God made the penis perfectly able to be gripped by either the right or the left hand, able to pleasurably throttle to all-grab some of several times a day. You don't even have to sit up to crank your blanket. God made a perfect little release found at the tip. Now there to shoot out all of the devil juice that builds up and makes you think about

naughty things like grabbing ladies, fun backs. Kindle rain makes fun of raise logic, writing, I like how he says it's biodegradable as if that were some kind of special thing. Of course, it's biodegradable dipshit. It's organic material. Your biodegradable too. It's called decomposition. That's the reason why earth isn't full of dead bodies littered everywhere.

That is pretty funny. I mean, he makes this selling point like, yeah, all food is biodegradable. It's not some special property of the nata. Most of the rest of the comments are just about showing things in my ass about how many types of food are perfect to be shoved up as asked. And also about how, you know, most foods we eat today have, have in fact been heavily manipulated by scientists. To be fair to Ray, he did eventually apologize to this video that probably converted more people on the fans to atheism than it did to Christianity. And now we are done with this week's idiots of the internet.

Idiots. done with this week's idiots of the internet. I also like to have you talk about it. It doesn't squirt over your face. Like what? Like why would that kind of fru- like squirt over your face? Like there's some special design. That's amazing. It's amazing how when you open the tip of the digital pound, just shoot right in your eye.

What? Back to lost tech Sometimes old technology is lost for good reason Competing bit of tech comes along makes it obsolete and sometimes it just wasn't that good in the first place Let's talk about a super slow 18th century steam car that no one liked except to do to invent it Yeah, do you think the you know cars? Did you know that they were actually invented kind of or the worst cars going around in the seventeen hundreds the automobile as we know it

was obviously not invented in a single day nor by a single inventor rather the history of the automobile reflects an evolution that took place worldwide a result of more than a hundred thousand patents from a variety of inventors and there were a lot of first that occurred along the way starting with the radical plans for motor vehicle were drawn up by both lean out of the vinci and i think newton then there was Cougnott's stupid steam car. In 1769, the very first propelled road vehicle was a military tractor invented by a French engineer

and mechanic Nicholas Joseph Cougnott. He used a steam engine to power his vehicle, built to his instructions at the Paris Arsenal. The contraption was used by the French army to haul artillery and it moved slowly, very slowly. There's three-wield metal patients tester moved at the whopping speed of two and a half miles an hour. Top speed. And it had to stop every 10 to 15 minutes to build up enough steam power to move again and it ran for roughly an hour total and it didn't have any breaks. And it had an enormous boiler attached to the front of it, the Wade three tons. Luckily, the whole thing weighed three tons. Luckily, he didn't have to deal with traffic because no one else was making one of these monstrosities. The following year, Kugnot built another steam powered tricycle to carry it for passengers, also reached off speeds of

almost three miles an hour. And then in 17, 17, 17, 71, the 46 year old Kugnot drove one of his road vehicles into a stone wall, given the inventor the distinct honor of being the first person to get into a car accident. And why did he get into his car accident? Because his three-ton machine had no brakes, which is insane. Like, how did he ever think this could stop? Luckily no one was injured because it was, you know, it was barely moving. Cougnaut would never build a third steam car. One of his patrons died, another was exiled, and funding for his vehicle experiments dried

up. Incredibly, more steam cars continued to be developed. None of them were very popular, not wildy popular, but in the 19th century, a variety of steam-driven horseless carriages and steam-driven tractors and cars were being driven by enthusiasts all over Europe, America, and elsewhere. And they were able to kick the speed up considerably, a man named Fred Marriott got a Stanley steam car, humming all the way up to 127 miles an hour in a 1906 test at Orman Beach and Florida. That's crazy. You know what I call a steam car

that goes that fast hot rod. This is a hot because the steam. Look at that here. Uh, no. Now for the last bit of modern loss tech, whatever happened to all that Apollo moon landing technology did it disappear? We touched on this in the moon landing suck, 136. Good excuse to dig a little deeper now. We thought we'd go right to NASA for this one and not just because the illuminati order is two

with the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing just behind us, NASA landed on July 20th, 1969, or dead day. Oh, they did. Reports of resurfaced about NASA losing some precious video footage of that first moonwalk. Yeah, these, yeah, this is the thing that they've already dressed, but they're having to address again now. How could that happen, right? How could they lose this footage?

Excuse me, is it because they needed to destroy evidence of them filming a fake-ass landing in a home studio or some kind of movie studio? Did it happen because even NASA employees or human beings and fuck up sometimes? Did they give her to that footage? It doesn't matter because we haven't recorded in other forms. NASA's official story is that they searched for but could not locate some of the original Apollo 11 data tapes, which sound really bad. These tapes were original in the sense that they directly recorded data transmitted from

the moon. An intensive search of archives and records concluded that the most likely scenario was that the program managers determined that there was no longer a need to keep the tapes since all of the video and data had been recorded elsewhere and they were erased and reused. The data on those tapes, including video data, was relayed to the manned spacecraft center now the Johnson Space Center during the mission. The video was recorded there and in other locations. So while the original tapes are quote unquote, I'm not even quote unquote, they're lost.

There's no missing video footage from the Apollo 11 moonwalk. NASA's search did discover high quality broadcast versions of footage. NASA worked with Lowry Digital, a premier film restoration company to process the video using techniques unavailable in 1969 versus and the restored video was released in HD as part of the 40th anniversary of Apollo 11. So now really there's even better footage. Here's a more thorough explanation for any moon landing conspiracy believers. Data from the Apollo 11 mission was sent from the spacecraft to three ground stations,

one in California and two in Australia, which retransmitted it to the manned space flight center in Houston. The ground stations also recorded the data on special one inch 14 track tapes, one track of which was for video. The video footage was recorded in slow scan, 10 video frames per second, which meant it could not be directly broadcast on commercial television, which I know is not the right frame rate, just from, you know, doing editing years ago before everything was totally digital. The video had to be converted for broadcast, uplinked to a satellite, then downlinked to Houston, from which it was sent out to the world. NASA spokesperson Richard Navsger at a press conference showing some of the restored footage

in 2009 said there was no video that came down slow scan that was not converted live, fed live, too converted live fed live to Houston and fed live to the world. So just in case anyone thinks there is video out there that has them in scene that is not the case. And then he coolly scanned the room and then he snapped. We didn't fucking fake it, okay? Damn it.

The world has become a cum dumpster of idiocy. And I'm sick of holding press conferences where I'm asked questions by people who can't hold my intellectual jacks track. I'm sick of the clown questions you fuckers. And then you made kind of a ugh, and he shook his head and he mumbled a bunch of curse words and he walked out of the room. Now he didn't do anything to that stuff, but I bet he wanted to. He didn't do that any stuff. He really didn't stop with him saying that is not the case.

Way more important than the questions about the footage is the questions about why we haven't returned to the moon since 1969. Did we lose our ability to go to the moon? Did we never have it? Robert Frost, an instructor in flight controller at NASA, explains it more detailed and I originally did the moon landing suck. Why we haven't gone back? He says, why does it take three years to develop a new car when it shares 90% of its DNA

with a previous model? Why does it take six years to develop a new airplane when it shares 90% of its DNA with a previous model. Why does it take six years to develop a new airplane when it shares 90% of its DNA with a previous model? The answer is that they are complex devices, a launch vehicle and spacecraft destined to go to the moon is much more complex and operates at the edge of the envelope where there is little tolerance for imprecision and error. When operating on the edge of the envelope, thousands and thousands of hours go into testing and tweaking. The development and operations team acquire expertise that no one else on the planet has. The vehicle cannot be built or operated without that expertise. Operating a space mission involves reams of paper in the forms of flight rules and operational procedures. Those rules and procedures are drafted over thousands of hours of tests and

simulations, a change in the vehicle consent send ripples of change through those documents. The Saturn V rocket had over three million parts. The command and service modules and lunar module were composed of millions of additional parts. An individual person cannot contemplate the scale of detail needed to assemble and operate those vehicles. So when the Apollo program ended, these factories that assembled those vehicles were retast or shut down. The jigs were disassembled, the molds were destroyed, the technicians, engineers, scientists, and flight controllers moved on to other jobs. Over time, some of the materials used became obsolete. If we today said, let's build us another Saturn V rocket in Apollo CSM, LEM, and go to the moon, it would not be a simple task of pulling out the blueprints and bending and cutting some metal.

We don't have the factories or tools. We don't have the materials. We don't have the expertise to understand how the real vehicle differed from the drawings. We don't have the expertise to operate the vehicle. We would have to substitute modern materials. That changes the vehicle. It changes the mass. It changes the stresses, the strains.

It changes the vehicle. It changes the mass. It changes the stresses, the strains. It changes the interactions. It changes the possible malfunctions. It changes the capabilities of the vehicle. You know, we'd have to spend a few years redeveloping the expertise. We'd have to conduct new tests and simulations. We'd have to draft new flight rules and procedures. We'd have to can certify new flight controllers and crew. We'd essentially be building a new vehicle. And I love that a lot of people here and all that just are saying over and over in their head, pff, luminaadi, luminaadi, luminaadi. It makes sense to me, right? I touched on this in the moon landing suck,

but this makes why we haven't returned to the moon, it makes even more sense to me. It's very, very, very, very complicated and expensive. It requires so much planning. And then you know, in order to keep all the people employed from all of that space shuttle infrastructure, you have to keep sending more and more people out into space. Which, you know, when a war pops up or something, you don't always have the money for.

It's a preposterously expensive proposition, right? You got to get all of the employees, the equipment, the industrial spaces. And you got to do that, you know, while we're already in so much debt, and okay, I'll write you Marvelous Meat Sex, those are the lost technologies I've chosen to dissect today. I know there are plenty of others, but I hope you're satisfied with the ones I've chosen. This could have gone on forever.

There will be one more in the top five takeaways. We could have discussed the cloudbuster design by Austrian psychoanalyst William Reich. Reich claimed he could produce rain by manipulating what he called Oregon energy in the mid-20th century, present in the atmosphere. No peer-reviewed scientific evidence

exists to support either the effectiveness of this device or the existence of Oregon energy. We could have broken down the suit coding system. In the late 1990s, a Dutch electronics technician named Aromke John Bernard Sloot announced the development of the Sloot digital coding system. A revolutionary advance in data transmission that he claimed could reduce a feature length movie down to a file size of just eight kilobytes.

If you know anything about digital file sizes, that is like miraculously tiny. Apparently Sloot dazzled Phillips execs by playing 16 movies at the same time from a 64 kilobyte chip, which that does blow my mind. Because I've always been like digital storage. That's crazy. Then after getting a bunch of investors, he mysteriously died on September 11, 1999, two days before he was scheduled to hand over the source code, illuminati. No one has come close to getting the file size of videos that small since.

So did any ancient civilizations have more than we do now? Did they enjoy magical technology lost to time? No, they didn't. There's absolutely no real evidence that makes an actual strong legitimate case for theories like the ancient astronaut theory. Egyptians were not building pyramids with spaceships or alien technology.

Ancient Indians were not flying around in spaceships. However, certain medicines like the Roman birth control may have indeed been lost. Plants and animal species do die off, of course, and their benefits then are lost to us. And ancient civilizations may have understood the movements of other planets and the moon and the earth, much better than we ever thought they did. They may have better building techniques for things like cement than we do, better stone cutting techniques. But there's no question that we live at the very best time, at least technologically, to have ever lived on Earth. For thousands of years, mankind has marched forward

with invention after invention designed to make life easier and better. So rejoice, meat sacks. Don't think like, oh man, who's we at that? We have it the best. You're not missing out much more than, you know, easier access to taste your nanos. And as much as I love nanos, I wouldn't trade central AC hot tubs, hot showers in the

internet for a nan of the tastes like Lafay Taffy. Time now for today's Top 5 Takeaways. Time to suck, top five Takeaway. Number one, don't believe the hype, the building of the pyramids is not an example of loss technology. It's absolutely amazing what the ancient Egyptians did, but it could be replicated today for the cost of around $5 billion. How do the ancient Egyptians build those pyramids without modern technology using a lot of

dudes, a crew of 100,000 strong? Number two, early steam cars sucked. Never hop in an uber if they pull up in an 18th century steam car unless you truly don't care how long the ride takes, then it's probably going to be worth it for the story. Number three, most of the lost technology of the past are either given too much credit for being amazing, or in some cases, not enough credit for being amazing. India's flying vamanas don't deserve recognition because they didn't exist. Roman cement, however, just might be superior to modern cement and could be part of the answer to combat climate change related to certain emissions, which is pretty damn cool. Number four, again, we went to the fucking moon.

NASA didn't lose the Apollo tech. They deleted the expensive tape they used after having all of it reproduced in high quality film. Number five, new info. Mmm, let's talk about one last bit of loss technology. This was right up there, you know, for my favorite. This is real close starlight. It is wise to be skeptical of this for sure.

It has all the red flags of pseudoscience, but after reading a lot about it, watching some pretty impressive product demonstrations on a third party BBC show, it might be real. Starlight was touted as the most valuable man-made substance ever created, and maybe it was. Stories fascinating. Starlight allegedly had the potential to revolution valuable man-made substance ever created, and maybe it was. Stories fascinating. Starlight allegedly had the potential to revolutionize countless industries, save lives, change the course of human history. The application's forwarder, near infinite, although no scientific mind has ever been able to figure out how it works.

What is Starlight? Why have you never heard of it? Well, Starlight was invented during the 1980s by Morris Ward, a ladies hairdresser and guy who liked to tinker around with inventions from Yorkshire, England. He would say, we produced a material that was out of this world. It didn't burn. It didn't produce smoke, and it intensified on its strength and its abilities. Ward claimed Starlight was a plastic, able to withstand heat to an almost unimaginable

degree. He never revealed how it was made, saying merely that it contained up to 21 organic polymers and co-pollumers and small quantities of ceramics. And if you're wondering how a hairdresser could do this, he also worked for years, like two decades, on trying to come up with new hair products. So he did have a lot of experience in lab based on interviews I've seen with him. He doesn't come across as crazy and lab tests, starlight has, according to Ward, with stood the heat from nuclear flashes and military

tests it can endure temperatures three times hotter than the melting point of diamonds and it can be shaped and molded into almost any form starlight attracted a lot of attention during the 1990s after it made an appearance on the BBC's tomorrow's world program a program about well you know futuristic inventions where lots of popular products of today like the camcorder and ATM did make their television debuts. And the tomorrow's world demonstration of starlight, you can watch on YouTube, but it is mind-blowing. And egg is coated in this starlight stuff, just a thin glaze. You can't even tell anything's on the egg, really. And then this egg is blasted with a blow torch for minutes at 2,500 degrees Celsius.

And after, you know, this really close, like this blowtorch, like an inch away, the surface of the egg barely lukewarm. The host grabs it, the egg is totally uncooked inside. They put the same blowtorch, and they put on another egg, same distance, egg not coated in starlight, the blowtorch punched a hole in the shell under a second. We wanted to create something that wouldn't burn,

it was halogen-free, award-told-the-BBC in 2010. He said, we produced a material that was out of this world. It didn't burn yet. Like what I said earlier, we still don't understand quite how it works. Said Ronald Mason, scientific advisor for the Ministry of Defense at the time. But that, but that it works is undoubtedly the case. I started this path with Morris being very skeptical of it. I became totally convinced of the reality of the claims.

Ward was so paranoid about the formula for Starlight being reverse engineered, he would never allow anyone to keep a sample. And his financial demands of anyone who wanted to use Starlight, including NASA and Boeing and the US and UK military, killed the commercialization of the product. He'd go on a radio show in 2009 and talk about various governments and corporations trying to steal his formula and maybe they were doing that. He flat out refused permission for anyone to be able to license it. And when he died in 2011, 2011, nearly 30 years after Starlight's invention, Starlight had

still never left his lap. No one really knows what happened to the formula. Some say his family keeps it locked away, others claim it was a hoax the whole time. If the substance was real and readily available, some people hypothesized that it could have revolutionized skyscrapers, heating and cooling, space travel, fire-approving homes, and would have been pretty sweet and 3D printers and so much more. Oh, and there were probably some things

that the military could do with it. And if it's real, which I gotta say, and I'm very skeptical, I think you guys know that by now, it looks like it was real. What a cool example of how every once in a while, one of us meets Zach's, figured out something way ahead of its time. Something that our peers just can't wrap their heads around. And that concept makes me very excited for the future.

Because truly, who knows what is right around the corner? What amazing way ahead of its time, they can launch humanity several generations forward, could show up tomorrow, a year from now, two years from now. That makes me very excited to be alive. And when it shows up, I hopefully we don't lose this technology. Last technologies has been sucked. Good choice, Space, those are, I know some of you would love only true crime, but I need more variety than that.

And I enjoy learning so much, but I would have never learned if it was not for this podcast. Thanks to the time suck team, thanks to Queen of the Suck, Lindsey Cummins, high priestes of the Suck Harmony Vellicamp, Jesse Gardening of Grammar Doughbner, Reverend Dr. Jill Paisley, time suck high priest Alex Dugan,

the guys at Biddelixer, danger brain, access apparel. Thank you to Sack, a script keeper, flannery for point of meet and all kinds of good directions this week. Join the cult of the curious phase of a group if you want to meet and converse with other suckers over 11,000 meat sacks in there now. Join the time suck discord group for even more interaction. Link in the episode description for that as well around 3000 suckers active in there.

Next week we continue to detour from true crime with an anti-vaxxer suck. Hello, hate mail. I can feel it coming already. Hello one-star reviews. Here it comes. Many celebrities, politicians, and more than a few snake oil salesmen have all railed against having their children and notculated against potentially lethal diseases. The debate, hardly debate, is between scores of concern parents and the entirety of modern medical science. On one side, the skeptics say that the multitude of shots that an infant is required to get or at least recommend it to get is causing illnesses, especially autism.

On the other hand, the medical community says that is not true at all. And also, the vaccinations are considered one of the greatest advancements in medical science in the history of Earth and a major reason for the extended lifespan of modern humans. Since the 1970s autism has increased while at the same time, so as the push for vaccines. But if you know anything at all about science, correlation does not equal causation. And don't get me wrong. Being a parent is not easy and the freedom to make parenting decisions is very important.

However, your parenting decision should not risk my kids' lives. I'm going to lay out a lot of science this week or this next week and I will look at both sides of the argument. I promise it's something I've researched on my own many times in the past. I can't even, I can't wait for the updates. They'll come in afterwards. I like the homeless suck. I think it's going to be an important suck and important thing to discuss. Get people thinking about going to go over a lot of history, gonna dive into plagues, pandemics, vaccines, themselves. So don't be scared, don't be scared. Join us for the anti-backstress suck on Monday and now time for Time Sucker Updates.

First up, and OJ update update coming in from Will Carlucci. Will writes, I thought someone else would mention this, but after the most recent episode without hearing it, thought it would. It's about the OJ Simpson glove. Once leather gets wet, it shrinks once it dries. So if the glove got wet, it would have shrunk it once it dried. That's another reason the glove doesn't fit. So as a prosecutor, prosecutors,

excuse me, understood evidence handling, it would have been easy to understand that. As a law student, the OJ glove incident is an example used in classes. I will thank you for sending that in, Will. Did not know that. I didn't think about that, I guess. And then right after this message, Sean adds even more info

to the infamous glove fiasco, time sucker Sean Brown writes succimus maximus Lord succulist in I heard in a radio interview a while ago on public radio that O.J. Simpson had arthritis and joint problems true. I you're for that. So he routinely took anti inflammatory meds supposedly his defense team told the night before he was to try the gloves on to not take his anti inflammatory meds. Therefore making his hand joints swell making it harder to put the glove on.

Just how you find that interesting. Anyways, love the podcast. When I get paid, I intend to become a full-fledged space lizard, yours and Nimrod Sean. Well, thank you, Sean. So, yes, so did he med him, or, you know, I guess not, minutes did he not take his meds? Did the leather shrink because it was wet?

You know, the combo of those two, plus his cartoonish presentation of trying to put a hand in a glove, yeah, just made it all look that much worse. Great extra info. Makes me even more irritated. Update to a previous update, coming in from Time Sucker, Troy West.

Troy writes, Master Sucker, a little food for thought for you to chew on about gun people, noticing details no one else cares about. Gun rights, gun ownership, and gun owners are under constant attack. The anti-gun people prey on the ignorance of the general public about guns to try and sway their opinions. There are countless examples in the media and state legislative bodies and in Congress

of outright lies being told to sway public opinion against gun rights. They will show videos of fully automatic military rifles and say it's an AR-15. They have set a bullet-button magazine released converts any weapon to full auto. They would have you believe that I have an arsenal that fires 5,000 rounds a second, never needs to be reloaded and is capable of destroying a tank with a single shot. So to us, every bit of incorrect information is another quote-bullet in the gun. That's why we react so passionately, enough lies are being intentionally told about us already. We don't want these to be spread via mistake. And that I will say makes complete sense to me, Troy. And what is possibly the worst analogy

you've ever heard, what if there was a social movement to ban all comedy podcasts because they were created by sadistic individuals who enjoy torture? I feel like you're talking about me there. And then what if you saw a prominent political figure given the example of a podcaster who wants Blue Man's finger off with a military device? Would you ignore that deliberate use of half truth or would you feel the need to rebut that statement with the fact that Jimmy Wiseman did it to himself as a kid on accident?

I love you working Jimmy from small town murder and crime and sports into this. Great podcast by the way, good friends. And if six months later you heard someone on the street repeating that misinformation to a friend as the gospel truth would you ignore it or be infuriated? And now to go completely, to completely go gunnered on you to prove your point of view.

The mini 14 does not use the same magazine as the AR 15. Also the AR 15 is chambered in 5.56, the same round the military uses. The mini has a chamber in, Jesus Christ. The mini is chamber in, 5.56 the same round the military uses the mini has a chamber in Jesus great. The mini is chamber in 223 Remington, a very similar civilian round with the lower chamber pressure than 556 and AR 15 can fire either of these rounds, but the mini 14 should not be far away with 556. The pressure is higher than the gum was designed to withstand Mike drop. Love what you do. Hell no, not a toy. Thank you, Troy. Well played, man, I get the nerdiness.

Thanks for laying out a good argument for your beliefs. Man, that is what the world needs more of. Whatever your belief is, good, fact-based, detailed arguments. We need to talk about the important issues of the day, but we need to do so with as many facts and details as we can get into our meat sack heads. Well done, man. The differing opinions on the attractiveness

of bell gunners continue. Time-sucker Kelly Sammons does not agree with my assessment. Kelly writes, what's up, sir, sucks a lot. Listen to the bell gunners, and her name may be Kelly Simmons. I put Sammons in my notes, but that doesn't feel right. If it is right, apologize. Kelly Simmons or Sammons? What's up, sir, sucks.

Listen to the bell gunners suck. Had to stop writing you this. You just said that you thought bell gunness was kind of attractive despite what all your sources say about her. So of course I looked her up. She looks like Miss Trunchbull from the movie Matilda. Keep on sucking and get your eyes checked. Okay, Kelly.

I look through your reference and you know what? Yeah. She does. In her later years, she looks like Miss Trunchbull. I still think that a young bell was pretty. And I do realize still that I'm in the minority when it comes to that assessment. My horrific bell impression put a very strange scene in the mind of time sucker Jess Pascoe, who writes, Dear Master Sucker, I've been listening to Time Sucks since April and have

enjoyed every sucky moment. Listening to the most recent suck on bell gunness and your Scandinavian impressions, particularly the sex scenes. All I could think of is Ttubbies doing the murdering. I laughed until I cried with this mental image. Thought I'd share it, hopefully get a small gig out of it. Yep. Keep on sucking, Hill, Nimrod Jess.

That is a weird image, Jess. To be clear, that image did come from this kind of talk, right? Yeah, yeah, hangy, bangy, uf, da, uf, bitch, you're doing you thing. And mom and bitch, he's worms, you hoarsey, uf, da, yeah, uf, hanging, ufft, ufft, bitch, you're doing you thing. And mom and baby, she's warmed you hoarse, ufft, yah, ufft, yah. Now we'll end on a message from a really kick ass mom. And great time, sucker, Jesse G, Jesse writes, master sucker, queen of the suck, Lindsey, bow jangles in the suck dungeon crew.

Sup, I've never written in before, but I desperately hope you read this. I love the show and spread the suck as much as possible, even though I missed out on the free stickers, because of course I did. And I cuss you out weekly when you get in my head, all thanks to my son Blake. If it hadn't been for him, honestly,

I probably have no idea who you, would have no idea who you or any of my other over my favorite podcasters are, excuse me. I get super stoked every time I get a notification about a new time slip episode. So for context, I got pregnant with Blake at 15 years old. I dropped out of high school, got a job and spent the next 18 years trying to get us on our feet,

but it always seemed like something happened. It was always something. Fast forward to now, I'll get to the point. If I had not had Blake when I did, I would never have gone to college, got in my degree. To be perfectly honest, I probably would not be here at all because the many, many days that suicide popped into my head, I just could never do that to my son.

Now he is an amazing adult, and I don't just say that because I'm his mom. He graduated high school with honors, got a handful of scholarships. Now we have become almost best friends, unless I have to use the mom voice. He knows what's up. Blake is so kind-hearted and funny.

He's been dying to get an open mic, get an open mic for comedy, but he won't let me go to the first one. I don't blame him. He'll be 21 on August 5th, 2019. Today, this episode drops. I don't have much as far as money, but I throw myself at the feet of the sucked dungeon hierarchy

and humbly besieged the four, a shout out. If you could please wish my baby a happy 21st birthday, even if it's late, if you could do it at all, please, that would mean the world to Blake. From a teen mom before it was on MTV, please tell my baby, I love him and wishing me happy 21st, you only get one after all. Thank you, advance. Thank you for being something my son and I can enjoy a rolled one over smiley face.

Nice. Love and shameless hope, Jesse G. Well, thank you, Jesse, for being such a great example of starting off in a tough spot, a single teen mom working your ass off to do what's right for your son. Raise a great me sack. Go to college yourself. You should be so proud. Hail you, Jesse.. Go to college yourself. You should be so proud. Hail you, Jesse.

And happy birthday, Blake. Keep making mom proud. Hail Nimrod. And take a little toke from me. Be sure to graduate, get out there, and light this world up like some fucking Greek fire. Hail Nimrod. Yeah.

Next time, suckers. I need a net. We all did. Have a wonderful week, Meat Sacks. Go find that starlight. Get it out there on the market. Find that old heart of ours, Silphium, and you know what? Most importantly, why don't you keep on sucking?

I was talking about some cool shit for you starting slapping your dumb lip flops around. Get damn it!