Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 153 - The Ninth Circle Cult & Jeffrey Epstein: An Exploration Into Pedophile Rings

Starting point is 00:00:00 The ninth circle cult, is it real? Is there actually a group out there created by the Jesuits, whose members include various European royals, some of the most prominent political and financial figures in the world, including the Pope himself, does this group participate in satanic worship by performing heinous, illegal acts upon children, including rape, torture, and murder? Do they actually hunt kids like animals on hidden game preserves? Do they drink the blood of infants? Also in addition to the 9th Circle Cult, what other dark pedophile rings may exist in the world today?

Starting point is 00:00:33 And what groups may have existed previously throughout history? We look into some of the worst of the worst today. We examine internet rumors, and some of the most powerful members of society may also be rob wearing child predators in today's Satanic Secret Society edition of meet Saks. I'm Dan Cummins, Illuminati Poolboy, puppet of the builder burgers, Freemason Fluffer, the pubs meet puppet, and you are listening to Time Suck. Hail Nimrod, be gone, loose of Fina, praise both jangles, and thanks again, Michael Motherfuck and McDonald for being nice enough to record that little intro snippet. Got a fun show for you today.

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Starting point is 00:06:22 Ah, and now it's time to delve into this week's space lizard chosen topic, the ninth circle cult. If you haven't heard of the NCC, there's a good reason why reptilian space wizards are actively and aggressively suppressing it. Yes, the Illuminati has an entire division wake up sheeple dedicated to cleaning the internet over a few minutes of any information that could lead to the exposure or capture of its high profile members. Another reason you may not have heard of this cult is that almost every detail of information

Starting point is 00:07:01 included in any quote unquote reports on this subject are from sources that don't seem to be entirely reputable. We're going to explore them thoroughly so you can see for yourself. Uh, as we'll see, people's fears over the elites of the world brainwashing, hunting, killing, eating, fucking the common folks, babies, feed the majority of the ninth circle cult narrative. Uh, while the ninth circle cult may be a little hard to believe in, there are, however, many other examples of real incidents of pedophilia that make the existence of the NCC seem way too possible.

Starting point is 00:07:30 And we're going to look into many of those incidents today. In particular, we're going to take a peek at the many sexual abuse scandals within the Catholic Church. And we're also going to delve into the Jeffrey Epstein case and his pedophile island. Before we look into Epstein, Catholic scandals, other examples of this pedophilia incident for sure happened. Let's thoroughly examine the Ninth Circle cult. So you can see where my hesitation over the reality of this cult comes from. The main question we want to answer first, are European royals and upper ranks of the papacy? And God knows who else members of some sort of sick,

Starting point is 00:08:03 deranged cult, a cult who kidnapped sexually abuses, hunts naked children, children they kill and eat, children whose body parts are sometimes kept as mounted trophies. Now initially, the sounds completely whack a doodle insane. Right? I mean, there's no way this could be real, could it? Well, but sadly, elements of this tale have already for sure happened in numerous other instances. I mean, we did learn in the Robert the But baker, Hansen suck, that at least one guy did get away with hunting human beans. And he got away with it for years. We also know the pedophilia on a massive scale has been covered up time and time again,

Starting point is 00:08:37 thanks to numerous Catholic church scandals. We know that people have somewhat recently gotten away with eating human children, thanks to the Albert Fish Suck. And we also know thanks to Sucks on serial killers like Jeffrey Dahmer, that people have somewhat recently gotten away with eating human children thanks to the Albert Fish Suck. And we also know thanks to Sucks on serial killers like Jeffrey Dahmer that people have kept human body parts for trophies. But did all of this happen more within a secret of European society known as the Ninth Circle cult? Is it even a real organization?

Starting point is 00:08:57 Or let's dig in. Information about the Ninth Circle cult can be found on a variety of shall I say questionable websites like secure dot avas dot org catholics are not Christians.com Europe reloaded dot com sites that I want to weigh too many of these they look like the same dude design them. Someone who stopped learning how to build websites around 2007. And these websites say the same information getting passed around a variety of sites says ninth circle is a group that participates in satanic worship by performing illegal acts towards children, including rape, torture, and murder. It is a creation of the Jesuits within the Catholic Church and is

Starting point is 00:09:34 membered by some of the most prominent political and financial figures in the world. The group was found guilty by the International Common Law Court of Justice of countless child murders and mass graves in Canada, the Netherlands, Spain, and Belgium among other places. The Pope is considered the head of the group, and it is ritualistic as exposed by their doctrine, the magisterial privilege that the newest sitting Pope must drink the blood of a newborn child. This point has already been irrefutably proven with witnesses and testimony in a court, a painful blow to conspiracy deniers. Irrefutably proven, take that conspiracy deniers bold claim to say the least.

Starting point is 00:10:22 There's been proven in court that the Pope drinks the blood of a newborn child. Could that possibly be true? Reading that led me to Google, has the Pope drank the blood of a newborn baby. I wanna find that irrefutable proof. Maybe a pick. Maybe a video of the Pope wearing like a, like a I love babies kind of,

Starting point is 00:10:38 kind of barbecue bib, gobbling up some tender baby legs, you know, like a Midwestern football fan, gobbling up some Buffalo wings, eating nose baby legs, baby legs, you know, like a Midwestern football fan gobbles up some buffalo wings Eat nose baby legs baby legs baby legs baby legs. Unfortunately, fortunately Nothing even quasi legitimate comes up when I try to find evidence of the Pope drinking baby blood A lot of basement websites do pop up one of the first based on websites is the gathering spot dot net Same website designer is the other questional websites half of these sites I didn't even make it to because I would click on them and then they

Starting point is 00:11:07 would set off a code red security alert on my web browser. I do want to know if the pope is in fact eating babies. I don't want to have my identity stolen when much a spy wear, it's not going to my hard drive. An article published on April 17th, 2004, the gathering spot sites, someone named Judy Bintin in an article titled, witnesses testified that Pope Francis raped them while participating in child sacrifice rituals. That's a pretty, again, bold claim. You know, and he has tied, you know, to the Ninth Circle of Colts as being basically the

Starting point is 00:11:37 leader. Supposedly, Judy originally broke this story in an article in the examiner. I clicked the examiner link. They provided it's a dead link Lot of dead links on these sites So then I googled Judy by intent the examiner to see if she's a real person let alone an author More questionable sites follow. I click on e-serve or EA survey WordPress or ea survey dot WordPress dot com There's an article titled UN panel confrontfronts Vatican on Child Abuse Examiner

Starting point is 00:12:05 Judy Bianton. This article, dated January 16, 2014, goes on to describe an actual sex crime trial against some real priests that did actually take place in Geneva, Switzerland. Speaks of a Vatican apology regarding a variety of pedophile cases within the Catholic church, does not address the Pope drinking baby blood, which I would think would come up if that didn't indeed happen. That's not a detail you leave out, not something you post in an addendum the following week, right? Just, uh, uh, uh, forget to mention last week that in addition to apologizing for a variety

Starting point is 00:12:35 of church sex crimes, he Pope also apologized for eating a couple of primates. He's very sorry about that. He was, he was quite hungry. What had happened? Any regrets? His decision. I mean, hindsight as they say is 2020 So he now for sure understands you should never eat babies Even when you know they're delicious because you've eaten so many other babies

Starting point is 00:12:53 This article doesn't mention Judy does list restress a source. So I do more digging then at long last I find Judy byington byington is presented as an expert on Satanus in an article on the herald extra calm slightly less shady looking website, very tabloid-y. Bianton is, or was a social worker in therapists who was the CEO of Provo Family Counting Center in Provo, Utah, former supervisor over children's services for Alberta mental health and she wrote a book called 22 Faces.

Starting point is 00:13:24 This book about a woman named Jenny Hill's experience of growing up with NSA talent cult. If that happened, Judy's book describes secret ceremonies in which malevolent men and women cloaked and hooded robes hiding behind painted faces and chanting demonic incantations, while inflicting sadistic wounds on innocent children lying on makeshift alters or tied to inverted crosses. So very ninth circle cult kind of, you know, descriptions here. And how does Jenny know all of this happened to her? Good old recovered memories.

Starting point is 00:13:57 Yay! recovered memories. Once again, if you don't know, they hold about as much weight and court testimony as dreams do because they're as reliable as dreams. They've been proven time and time again to be entirely unreliable. Numerous people have been sent to prison only to be released years later. When their senses are vacated, when people realize that recovered memories are completely manufactured, their false memories. Legitimate therapists no longer use memories recovered through interviews with alternate personalities or hypnosis because these

Starting point is 00:14:26 Quote-unquote memories have been proven over and over and over and over again To like they couldn't be more unreliable You know more times than not. It's just made up shit. It's like again like dreams or nightmares or whatever There's been numerous suicides committed by people who thought that they do an abuse by Satan's for years when in fact that never happened after having these memories we know recovered. Again, a lot of people have went to jail because he's very dangerous. Legitimate therapists again do not do this anymore at all. I would discuss this more here, but we have went into the science of false memory syndrome

Starting point is 00:14:57 numerous times before like in the Mandela effect suck. Let us suffice for me to say here that the mind is very complex. It's an interesting muscle. With an imagination so powerful, it can convince itself that it remembers things happening for sure when those things for sure never happened. Judy admits that all the tales of ritualistic, satanic abuse were constructed from recovered memories. The entire book is based on a deep-bunk psychiatric practice, and again, Jenny's memories come

Starting point is 00:15:20 from multiple personalities. So, if indeed she does have different personalities, you know, she's suffering from something now usually termed a dissociative identity disorder. So now we're getting questionable memories from someone who is severely mentally ill, someone who has a hard time processing reality in general. So from these highly questionable memories that were corroborated by zero additional evidence, Jenny Hill told Judy, she was oppressed by a Jewish Nazi who worshiped Satan and was brought to the US from Germany under CIA sponsorship to partner up with more satanic pedophiles hiding in high places in the US.

Starting point is 00:15:56 Aha, sounds totally legit, nothing weird about the story at all. Nothing wreaking of the delusions of someone who is severely mentally ill. And then since her experience with Jenny, Judy to now see Satanic pedophile cults everywhere she looks. They're everywhere. And she of course fully believes in the existence of the ninth circle cult of course. It's right into her very paranoid worldview. So now let's circle back to the ninth circle cult description where it states that the Pope for sure drinks baby blood saying this point has already been irrefutably proven with witnesses and testimony in a court. I'd refer to this court court.

Starting point is 00:16:30 What court has this been proven in? So I looked into this as well. The court reference in Ninth Circle, lore is called the International Common Law Court of Justice, also known as the International Tribe, BUNAL into crimes of church and state. So the I C L C J and the I T C C S with a highly esteemed I T C C S is supposedly based in Brussels, but good luck finding it good luck finding that there or anywhere else you can't

Starting point is 00:16:55 find an address for this place or any other mention of this place outside of strange little conspiracy riddled corners of the web. And why is that? Well, because it's very likely not real. This court does not, nor has not ever existed. The court was invented in the mind of insane 63 year old Canadian conspiracy theorist Kevin D. Anant, a defrocked United Church of Canada minister. The international court everyone refers to and speaking about the ninth circle cult was it first showed up on his blog murder by decree.com. Kevin Annette, little more to learn about him. Also an enthusiastic supporter of the

Starting point is 00:17:32 Freeman on the land movement, as well as a chemtrail truther, who has also said that the United Church of Canada is not nearly transphobic enough. Sounds like a real fun guy to be trapped at the bar with. So let's just delve into his brain a little bit to show that the guy who came up with most of the ninth circle, you know, conspiracy or found out about it. If you want to go that way, let's just see what other things he believes in. This Freeman on the land movement is this ludicrous notion where so called Freeman think they can opt out of being governed seriously. They think that what normal people understand to be laws are merely a form of contract that applies only if one consents

Starting point is 00:18:13 to it. I know I've mentioned this before on either time suck at the secret, second one point. Basically, they believe that you can say a few super secret legal phrases. And then these phrases are then just going to get you out of everything. You want to pay taxes? You can't be arrested. Every single law enforcement branch of every single government in the world disagree strongly with this belief. How the fuck do people believe in shit? This crazy and just so stupid. Like how can you have a brain that works well enough to allow you to have a job and get married, drive back and forth in between the store and home, etc. But also think if you just learned some secret, et cetera, but also think.

Starting point is 00:18:45 If you just learned some secret ala peanut butter sandwich, type phrase, you could just legally do whatever you want because the laws of the world no longer apply to you. If that code were existed, what if for sure does not? If it existed someone would just post it online and then it would go viral and then no one would have to pay taxes ever again. The government would crumble and we would just be living in an anarchist world of continual structure fires and people getting raped in the streets. Would be pretty sweet though if there was a cheat code for taxes and arrests.

Starting point is 00:19:13 I mean, please catch it right after you kicked your enemies door down, put a few bullets in their head and you're like, freeze, stop the weapon. And then you're like, show bees. That's Hollywood. And the officer just put their weapons down and just got damn it. All right. All right, buddy. I don't like it in Hollywood. And the officers just put their weapons down, it's got damn it. All right, all right, buddy. I don't like it, but he knows the code phrase.

Starting point is 00:19:29 He's free to go. IRS sends you letter, you know, asking to go to court to settle a unpaid taxes dispute. We're gonna have to pay thousands, thousands of dollars to go to jail and you just send back a little post at note. Just put a post at note in an envelope. Showbiz, that's how they do it in Hollywood. Just case dismissed.

Starting point is 00:19:46 Then Kevin Diannett, the main proponent of the Ninth Circle called, he believes in shit this crazy. He also regularly accuses the Vatican, the government of Canada, and the United Church of Canada of being far worse than Hitler. So he's not, he's not real good at history. He also claims that he's been officially nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize twice.

Starting point is 00:20:04 No fucking way that happened. Kevin's blog has convicted, quote unquote, according to him and no one else, two consecutive folks of genocide and child trafficking. He's issued international arrest warrants for them, but no one has ever served. He's also issued a proclamation, this is my favorite part. He has issued a proclamation dissolving Canada. And he's replaced Canada with the Republic of Canata. Yep. Canada's not officially responded to Kevin's claim that they're no longer a real nation. Kevin seems to be one of the few people who knows a that there was a revolution against the Canadian government and that be

Starting point is 00:20:40 the revolution. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, And that be the revolution no one knows about was successful and they did overthrow the Canadian government. And again, Kevin main guy behind the Ninth Circle conspiracy. It seems as if he came up with this entire thing himself. And Kevin really does seem to be a crazy pathological liar. There's a lot of sites that share his work and they all kind of seem to have the same look as if they may have been created by him. For lack of a better term, they don't look credulous. Neither does Kevin, by the way, neither does Judy Beinten.

Starting point is 00:21:05 I'm not gonna go into detail about why I say that in case I end up describing how one of you meets Axelogs. But you know some people just don't look trustworthy. Judy and Kevin have to kinda look where, like, if they're a cashier to gas station, I might not think twice about him in that context. I might assume like, okay, they can handle that job. But if I was about to get surgery,

Starting point is 00:21:23 like an important surgery that my life depended on, and then the surgeon showed up looking like one of those motherfuckers. So nervous. I'm gonna be making my peace with this world, cause I'm gonna think that I'm probably done. While it seems like all the night circle or does come from Kevin, a few nights circle called Believers

Starting point is 00:21:38 claim to have gotten their info from an article that was supposedly released in June of 2014, spread widely in 2015 to the present, an article possibly written by someone else hard to say since the source cited as the origin of this tale, a website called humans free.com no longer exists. Neither do its archives. I'm guessing either powerful people in high places killed this website, you know, deleted it from the web or Kevin D. Annette launched the website, then cited it in other websites

Starting point is 00:22:04 to give history just a little bit more legitimacy, and then eventually got rid of the initial website. I did find numerous sources accusing Kevin of doing exactly that. Numerous sources accusing him of creating fake websites to back up his claims. So it does seem like something he would do. One of the anti-Kevin websites is actually called Kevin Must Be Stopped.wordpress.com. Who knows? Maybe Kevin also runs that website to make it seem like, you know, people are out to stop

Starting point is 00:22:28 him from spreading the truth. But let's look into what this initial kind of cue document source says, an article that may have originated on humans free.com says teens were drugged, stripped naked, raped, hunted down in the woods and killed by European royals. According to this week's latest eyewitness to testify before the International Common Law Court of Justice and Brussels, not a real court, the woman was the fourth eyewitness to give accounts about these human hunting parties of the global elite night circle, Satanic, child sacrifice cult network.

Starting point is 00:23:02 A former member of the Netherlands criminal drug syndicate known as octopus testified that victims were obtained for these human hunting parties from juvenile detention centers in Belgium and Holland. Octopus, that's a cool code name for a drug lord. I mean if I owed a drug it or some money, I'd be scared. If all of a sudden he was like, bro, we don't get strayed by Friday. Octopus can pay you a little visit. Octopus and you'll fuck around, you're gonna beat you so bad, you're gonna think he has eight arms. Yeah, you can't.

Starting point is 00:23:31 Cause the octopus has the same amount, and that's like, got his name. And yes, water nerds, I do know that scientists now say that octopuses have six arms and two little octopus legies, even though they all look the same. Here's another snippet from this article. arms and tulo octopus legies, even though they all look the same. Here's another snippet from his article. 2004, I was an involuntary witness to torture, rape, and murder sessions of drugged children,

Starting point is 00:23:53 performed for a group of high-ranked people of the Netherlands, stated a woman. I was taken to a hunting party in Belgium close to Brussels where I saw two boys and girls and a girl ages 14 to 16, hunting and killed by global elites. She would use that terminology to who says that conversationally, who are they killed by global elites. The human hunting party was heavily guarded by the Netherlands royal guards. I was told that King Albert of Belgium was present. Huh, let me get this straight. You were told that King Albert of Belgium was present. That's

Starting point is 00:24:33 that sounds legit. That sounds exactly like how a high profile, secret cult would operate by telling random witnesses who they've inexplicably brought to watch these hunting rates, who their members are, right? When does that ever happen in the world? Something like, let them bet you'll fucking kill you if you breathe a word about this to anyone. You see that guy right there? That's King Albert.

Starting point is 00:24:56 And he's going to fucking hunt some kids right now. And when he's done, I guess you're free to leave. But don't tell anybody about this very secretive organization. That for some reason, let's random people hang out and watch the things they do. That's beyond nonsense. King Albert II, by the way, King from 93 to 2003 has never been accused of any crimes related to pedophilia outside of the Ninth Circle cult that I am aware of.

Starting point is 00:25:23 Fall, this doesn't seem far-fetched enough for you, check out this Ninth Circle cult description, a little excerpt about penis trophies. I witnessed is confirmed that as children in youths, they were forced to attend human hunting parties, where they and other children were raped, with some killed and deceased boy's penises were cut off. Allegedly, there was a Dutch countryside palace, where boy' penises were cut off. Allegedly, there was a Dutch countryside palace where boys' penises were displayed like trophies on a wall. Some hunting parties were hosted on the grounds of Belgium, Queen, Beatrix's palace. What the fuck? What a disturbing

Starting point is 00:26:01 section of someone's trophy room that would be. Can you imagine walking into a like a royal country is a state and then you go into a little trophy room and there's like a stag's head on a wall and some African antelope heads, you got some some kudu little spring bark, American elk bull, rams head, stuffed grizzly bears, stuffed bangle tiger and then just back in a little dark in corner just a row of mounted little boy dicks. How do you even mount a dick for a trophy displayed by the way? With the balls underneath? Do you, do you mount it or wreck your flaccid?

Starting point is 00:26:34 Half-heart shaved her hairy. Do you only mount the biggest dicks? I mean, it seems like a sad floppy little three inch, you know, limp dick, which is kind of be a shady trophy. Look at this topic. It's dealing to me. What this big deal with Diggs office? Why size monitor? Why flopping this monitor? Oh, you know, think Chica Taylor penis worthy of mountain. Chica Taylor limp shame cock more still impressive than 90% of hard American capitalist greed. Ween that is Shobis, that is for MOTHER, fuck all other serial killer, times

Starting point is 00:27:06 of characters, Chikatilo first, no one makes dick joke like Chikatilo, fuck Hollywood, that is how they do it in Ratsha. Alright, Ben and Wilson, Chikatilo shut up, shut up with some force, just felt him in this topic, I guess, adding a little more to Ninth Circle online lore, a guy named Randy Schock recently self published a book called Shockstubble14, the Ninth Circle on May 2nd of this year. The Ninth Circle just won volume a very long list of super credible nonfiction titles knocked out by the by the randomator. He also wrote Shockstubble 9, Octopus Spider. This important work of literature is described

Starting point is 00:27:46 as a startling account of corruption and hypocrisy at the heart of the Vatican. According to Randy himself, it's a brilliant piece of investigative writing. I do love that when somebody's writing their own review, it is just laid on thick. It's according to myself, my book is a brilliant piece of investigative writing.

Starting point is 00:28:04 Based on four years, authoritative research, including extensive interviews with those in power. None of his books have any citations. Zero. Not one. Not one reference. Nothing. No sources at all. He also wrote Shockstubbel 7, Historic Kansas. This is a book about MS-13 and other illegal immigrants taking cars and homes and land and businesses from people living in Kansas. And if that book is like Randy's Ninety Circle Book of Guests and it's a little, you know, light in the truth as well. And here's my favorite.

Starting point is 00:28:34 So it gets so many books. I mean, it's like he pumps out like a book a month, at least, and he's been doing this for years. It's extensive library of work. Here is Randy's author profile on Amazon, where he describes himself. This thing made me cry laughing. I know it might just be me. It made me laugh harder than anything has made me laugh in a long, long time.

Starting point is 00:28:57 Again, this is his author profile. I suppose to speak to your author credentials. Talk about your books Talk about, you know, where you went to school if you did go to school, talk about any awards you won Talk about what, you know, list your books have appeared on the genre you're working in your why you're passionate about this type of Okay, here's what he says hello This is your author when I write I pray and I ask Jesus to guide me. I keep everything very simple and I ask the Lord to guide me with each word I write.

Starting point is 00:29:31 My prayer is that my books will help people and improve their lives. I am so thankful to have the blessing of being a writer as I have written really since the 1970s. And I was also taking notes and writing even in the early 1960s from the time I began writing. In the third grade, I simply loved words. It was about 40 commas in that sense. When I was a police officer, I used the system where the officer speaks into a telephone and the words are recorded in his report. I'm going to post for every fucking one of these comments because it's delicious.

Starting point is 00:30:10 I did this for about a year on the WPD in Wichita, Kansas, and I have to say I love doing my police reports. I'm going to pause here and say that Randy only got to write those reports for about a year because he was let go. I'm gonna guess he was let go from the PD because he's out of his fucking mind. Here's the rest of his bio. It gets better. I also love doing investigative work.

Starting point is 00:30:38 And I like all that is involved with the good side of governing and politics and even news broadcasting. As my dad was a very good news reporter and investigator, who really got me started with him when I was six years old, doing all kinds of things a little six-year-old kid should never ever do. That was one sentence. It was fun. My dad was a real character and he knew everyone in country music. Like what?

Starting point is 00:31:08 Ha ha ha ha. Real lift earn there. Why does that have to do anything? And one of his best friends was Paul Harvey. I doubt it. I doubt that's true. And if it was true, what the fuck does that have to do with your books? Oh my God.

Starting point is 00:31:27 Ah, this weird, Ramley's stream of consciousness pile of word vomit. Just it just keeps, it keeps going, it keeps getting better. I think I met Paul and he shook my hand. He told me that I needed to be a writer. I have no particular ideology on any side. And I do love our 1776 Republic and our healthy U.S. Constitution. I always pray for our government and our Senate and Congress. I think that's uh kind of in the government. I don't think you need to separate those. And I pray for the president

Starting point is 00:31:57 also in the government. Uh no matter who is in the White House for the dignity of the office. Who is in the White House for the dignity of the office? I love capitalism. And I love people. Today I was with my neighbors. And I love seeing their wedding, and I love seeing their wedding certificate from 1992. What does that have to do with anything? They are wonderful people.

Starting point is 00:32:27 His name is James and he is the US Marine and his pretty wife is Susie. My best man, Paul called me to say, and I went to the YMCA. This is, I'm not making this up. This is his fucking author's bio. That is about it for now God bless and enjoy your life you are the most important person on earth to the Lord

Starting point is 00:33:02 Jesus died for you when he rose from the dead just for you and then he ends with, see you later. What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?

Starting point is 00:33:12 What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?

Starting point is 00:33:20 What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? day. That wedding certificate was pretty sweet. Tata for now. I mean, can you imagine if Stephen King wrote like a similar bio, like when you have one of his books and you know, it's about about the author and industries, hi. Happy birthday. If today is your birthday, if not have a happy day. Anyway, God bless. I always liked scary stuff as a kid. This morning I had oatmeal for breakfast.

Starting point is 00:33:48 Sometimes when I was younger, I used to eat pop tarts. Last fall, one of my neighbors died, and I was pretty sad. Hey, did you know my dad knew John Miller? He ran a hardware store downtown, and sometimes we're a pair of purple shoes. I used to think look pretty cool. I don't like cats. They're probably nice mostly, but not for me. Anyway, tennis elbow is real problem for some people. Sounds fun, but I hear it's painful. Loved to write more, but my sandwich isn't sitting right in my tum tum, and I need to

Starting point is 00:34:20 use the bathroom ASAP. See you later. So this is the guy. This is the guy riding the Ninth Circle Cult. He also has 42 different books. You can buy, via Goodreads, all of his titles are digital. They're all insane. Books like the Human Race was created

Starting point is 00:34:36 with dark skin question mark. The duped white race question mark. Oh, this guy just keeps getting better. Another book is Planet Wicca, or Dovisions, or Dovisions rises up from nowhere. Question mark, a lot of question marks in the titles. Dominic Weegebord, Spell, Castine, starts again, question mark. The true Nazi saga of George Herbert Walker Bush, almost all of his titles have zero ratings or reviews across all platforms.

Starting point is 00:35:06 So what did Randy have to say about the Ninth Circle cult? Well, let me say after reading his bio, I don't think it'd be shocking to hear that it's quite hard to read. There's virtually no grammatical structure, just stream of consciousness, borderline, gibberish, just the rantings of a madman weaving in and out of accounts of real Catholic pedophile cover-ups and then totally unsubstantiated accounts of that fake court we just talked about trying various leaders and church officials, even some celebrities of crimes involving, you know, doing horrible shit to kids and babies.

Starting point is 00:35:34 Mostly he covers everything we've already covered. He does throw in some new details, stuff like Pope Ratzinger resigned after his guilty verdict by the I.C.L. CJ court in 2013, while Catholic Jesuit Superior Adolfo Panshon announced his resignation in May 2014, both still resided under protection at the Vatican. Even today, children and teens were said forced to participate in human sacrifice rights and human hunting parties, many organized by an office at the Vatican. Love that detail.

Starting point is 00:36:06 I love that somebody thinks that the Vatican has an office and that office is in charge of like setting up, you know, hunting kid parties, little kid hunting rates. I just how do you answer the photo of that office? Hello, you've reached the Vatican's office for teen fucking and hunting. Oh, I'm sorry. You're looking for how to buy a new rosary? Yeah, yeah, let me transfer you. Praise God.

Starting point is 00:36:28 Then Randy continues. Victims were evidently secured by a mafia arm called Negranc Keta, they said the condonsense word, or octopus, and then taken to private estates and properties owned by prominent business and political leaders, including European royalty in the US, Europe, the Netherlands. That's fucking, that's in Europe.

Starting point is 00:36:48 And Australia alone, you'll do that. Listen, they're everywhere. They're in the United States and Europe and the Netherlands. That's fucking in Europe. There the children and youth were stripped naked, raped, hunted down and killed in satanic rites that typically involve sex orgies, involving children and teens prior to killing babies, others throwing everything in this. The innocence were reportedly forced to drink urine and blood, eat human flesh and watch

Starting point is 00:37:14 others murdered some of their close friends and human sacrifice rights with Albert Fish and early member of the Ninth Circle Cult. Sounds right up his alley. Oh yeah, bring me that hot apple cider. Peanut butter butter. Now bring the cat on Nin nine tails. We'll have a real Sunday of a humdigger. Hello, Madalyn. Hello, my baby. I love the nine circle cult showbiz. Oh, Randy talks about mass graves as well. Mass graves are another big part of the ninth circle cult lore. There supposedly are a ton of kids buried in a variety of mass

Starting point is 00:37:40 graves. And these graves have been found, but somehow not been mentioned by mainstream news sources. Pretty weird. It says, since 2008, there have been 34 mass grave sites, believe filled with children's bodies found in Ireland, Spain, and the Anglican United Church of Canada, though mainly Catholic native residential schools in Canada. The mass graves were believed to hold well over 350,800 missing indigent children and those of political prisoners who disappeared out of Catholic orphanages, schools and hospitals via the present Pope Francis. Man, a lot of people. All mass graves have been refused excavation by owners of the properties. Canada, Spain and Ireland governments and the Anglican United

Starting point is 00:38:22 Church of Canada and Catholic Church. So again, you know, sounds pretty legit. Authorities know where the bodies of, you know, hundreds of thousands of kids are buried. But when they come to check on the graves, you know, some organization like the United Church of Canada can just be like, nah, I like that's like that's ever worked. Hello, Father, we have a warrant to search the property for the bodies of thousands of hunted and murdered children. Now, father, please let us in. We need to look for those kids right now. Now, please let us investigate the murders of thousands of children.

Starting point is 00:38:55 Their parents deserve to know what happened. Now, no, right? And then there's what? All right, ding it. And then just walk away. If anyone listening, still thinks Randy is credible on any level, check out how he ends his book. This is the closing argument of his long book,

Starting point is 00:39:10 his long ramblings. This is the last paragraph. Okay, so far, I have 14 wood hay and shock stubble books on the Vatican. G-Wiz, I wonder, I love when people say G-Wiz. G-Wiz, I wonder how many father drew has done so far himself. I am totally trusting Mary.

Starting point is 00:39:33 Plus, I am resting in the Holy Spirit and I am depending on Jesus Christ. I am riding these books as I ride all of my books only to the glory of God. And my goal is to reveal the church for what it is. It is a mess. And it is far worse than that. You can just skip the met. If you think it's far with the way I've mentioned the fact, not only are there large number of men who are homosexual and pedophile,

Starting point is 00:39:56 tiny child molesters, they are often also killers of little children for the devil, it is all this bad. Okay, it's all this bad. You got it, it's all this bad. And that's what the Ninth Circle of Colt conspiracy is. It is gibberish. Everything I can find online about this color is perpetuated by the intellectual equivalence of Randy Shock and Kevin D. Annette.

Starting point is 00:40:21 It truly seems to be complete nonsense, created in the minds of not real bright, paranoid conspiracy nuts. Also seems to be invented by Kevin D. Annette and posted on his blog and then other possibly mentally old people like Randy Schuck. I mean, something's wrong with that guy. Added to the mythology, the similar claims of obvious wacky doodles like Judy Byington also woven into the backstory to provide further evidence. It is the internet, Wistvrens, a delusional maniacs. I'm going to go with snopes.com, put a big old all caps, bold, font, false rating on the existence of the nine circle cult.

Starting point is 00:40:54 The idea though of elite sacrificing, eating, and or fucking art show is nothing new. And historically, kids haven't sacrificed, you know. So I get where some of the concerned conference, you know, we learned about that way back in the, you know, with the Aztec times, there's kids being sacrificed. That's happened in the history of the world. We'll look at some much more credible pedophile cases because the suck on only the night circle cult just isn't quite media enough. And while I do make fun of this particular cult, I do understand the motivation for how people could believe it because we are going to look at

Starting point is 00:41:22 examples of real horrible things that have gone on. And when you add them all up, it's like, you know, it just makes something like this seem a little more plausible. Without some of the cartoonish elements like the robes and stuff. And I'm gonna address that too,

Starting point is 00:41:35 because that just comes up all the time and then all these satanic cults, we're gonna get into, has that even ever happened. Before we explore some real pedophile, some of which, you know, seem to have been part of real pedophile rings. Let's have a little more fun with the night circle cult believers and hop into an edict of the internet right after a sponsor. Time suck is brought to you by movement,

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Starting point is 00:43:12 So go to movement.com slash time suck. Join the movement, link in the episode description. And now, enough talk about something smart. Let's talk about some dumb. It is an adventure that, it's an adventure that, it's an adventure. On February 19, 2018, truth rising. Posted a video titled Breaking, all caps. Breaking. Woman witnesses child sacrifice at Vatican.

Starting point is 00:43:40 34 mass graves found. Pope and Queen involved. And then it's talking, you know, there's a lot of a ninth circle cult in the description underneath spoiler alert. Instead of 34 mass graves found of children raped and murdered by pedophiles, zero such mass graves have been found. The video has 122,000 views just under 600 comments. And Arthur Moranson is very alarmed posting in all caps. The military must take control and force access to these monsters and

Starting point is 00:44:06 should be executed on site without mercy. Fucking get them Arthur. Your brain might not work too good, but your heart's in the right place. Just get those kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go get them. Go get them. Romney Sagma has some answers posting Catholic people too much adore their church leaders than God Pope Bishop fathers It's setara That is why this happens mostly to them Okay, I get it Rami Catholic children are being abducted raped hunted killed and then their dicks are being mounted in Royal Trophy rooms Because God is mad at their parents. What a fun God?

Starting point is 00:44:43 What a fun God to worship. Some monster open this guy going, get those graphics. God, come at you, give them. Fuck their kids, hunt them. Fuck their sons and cut their dicks off. Not show them, not show them dude. Have a mother statue.

Starting point is 00:44:58 I'm a guy, I'm God. This is how I do things. Uh, Helen Mathias, post. I can't read those horrific documents. Already saw Pizza Gate. Awesome, Helen. You've fallen for at least two nonsensical conspiracies. Let's put you in charge of some.

Starting point is 00:45:14 You seem really good again to the bottom of facts. Erick Sado does his best to ask the intelligent question, writing, I was wondering why this exposed video never broadcast in the news, or is a block news to avoid revealing their demonic activity. I'll answer that interestingly wordy question, Eric. It's never been exposed to the news because it's fucking nonsense. Prepetuated by easily manipulated people with the critical thinking abilities of five

Starting point is 00:45:41 drills. You know what? Forget what I said last week. I think we should stop vaccinating. I think it might be time to thin the herd out a little bit. Almost every comment has likes and replies, but not impartial Ted's comment, um-hmm, radio silence. When he posts something a little bit logical,

Starting point is 00:45:57 posting links to court docs and signed witness testimony. I can't seem to find any trace of that. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, listen up, Ted. we're trying to have some fun here, okay? We're trying to get good and worked up over some baseless accusations of rampant, satanic, molestation and murder and kid hunting and you're taking a big old stand to whack a little punch boy! You got him! Logic fucking police! JoJoZep of the jungle is not surprised by the ninth circle cult at all.

Starting point is 00:46:27 He thinks people have been hunting and fucking and eating kids since the beginning of the human kind, posting, this has always went on. Went on with a mind, see Egyptians, Romans, it's never stopped. What is strange thing to believe in? That people in your own power have just always just wanted to rape and kill kids.

Starting point is 00:46:41 Just, you know, what they do. I wonder if JoJo thinks this, like, also applies to the business world. Like, basically, does everyone with a lot of ambition is that why they're trying to Just, you know, what they do. I wonder if JoJo thinks this, like, also applies to the business world. Like, basically, does everyone with a lot of ambition is out why they're trying to get, you know, some extra money. It's like, you just fucking eat those kids. Is that what CEOs are up to?

Starting point is 00:46:54 Yeah. What a terrible way to go through life, just looking at people with that kind of suspicion. Uh-huh, congrats on your pizza shop, Mark. Must be nice, selling the business, scrolling some money away. Must be nice, baking that young sexy pizza, right? Putting your cheese in it,

Starting point is 00:47:09 putting your meat in that tight young pizza. I know what you're doing, Satan's Poverty. But a hundred comments down. I find the first comment who seems to think this video is as dumb as I do. Giovanni Cruz posts, I saw this movie, the purge is good. Exactly. This conspiracy would make a good movie. And I'll end on this

Starting point is 00:47:25 idiot. Uh, unhaired stylist 18 posts, your logo at the beginning made me turn this off. Looks like you are working for them all caps. My God, uh, the logo they're referring to. It's the eye of Providence, that Illuminati eye, which is actually Christian and origin. I've, I've talked about that before. It initially represented the eye of God watching over humanity. That's its true origin. But now so many people are so fucking paranoid and just to be really blunt, not smart. I don't know why I don't think they just, you know, didn't, they just chose not to pay

Starting point is 00:48:00 attention school or they just weren't starting with a lot of gray matter to work with in the beginning. And then they chose not to kind of to school or they just weren't starting with a lot of gray matter to work with in the beginning. And then they chose not to kind of beef that up at all. And they're just so conspiracy obsessed that they see satanic symbols in everything, even in Christian iconography, included in videos made by people who are on their side. Like their paranoia is leading them to turn on themselves.

Starting point is 00:48:21 I love, they're starting to cannibalize themselves. Hopefully this continues. Hopefully this is fold in on themselves and there love they're starting to cannibalize themselves. Hopefully this continues. Hopefully it is fold in on themselves and there's all this conspiracy talk on the web just evolves into just them constantly sniping and bickering at each other. The internet, holy shit! There is no shortage of scary morons out there.

Starting point is 00:48:38 ["The Internet"] It is the Internet. It's the Internet. So now we know the ninth circle cold is not real, but now let's look into why certain people are able to believe. It's true. Again, I do think a lot of people just choose to believe this stuff because they're just fucking loonies. But there is some basis for some of the aspects of this concern, this fear about this cold fears of systematic

Starting point is 00:49:06 underground child abuse, you know, have run throughout popular conspiracy theories for centuries. It's the thing people have believed over and over again for a long time. One of the oldest held beliefs regarding rampant pedophilia and rings of pedophilia is, you know, about the Jewish people, you know, all of them, you know, want, want to do this. They've murdered Christian children drinking their blood. We've touched on this several times in previous sucks. You know, there's stories that run back deep into the dark ages, but a lot of Christians

Starting point is 00:49:31 being very scared about what the Jewish people are up to with their kids, you know, documentation going back, at least as far as the 12th century, if not far earlier. Lots of examples of Jewish people being accused, killed over baseless accusations, you know, over things like, say, Tannic child sacrifice. And why does this happen? Well, because Christianity, time and time again, has demonized the Jewish people as being the killers of Christ.

Starting point is 00:49:54 And I know I know the overwhelming majority of Christians do not, you know, push that kind of worldview. They don't focus on that. It's an overly vocal minority who spread this incredibly ignorant stupid hate. Two thousand years later, the shit's still going on in a lot of backwoods, fringe, Christian circles. Just last week, Jewish comedian Sarah Silverman was addressing death threats on social media. And she's been receiving death threats because a Florida pastor called for her death because she's Jewish.

Starting point is 00:50:25 In a video that I watched of Pastor Adam Fanon of the steadfast Baptist church, he just recently, you know, in Florida, said on video, you know these Jewish false prophets, anti-Christian, anti-God. They're willing to put Jesus to death again. You heard this comedian Sarah Silverman? Listen, she is a witch. She is a Jezebel. She is a God hating horror of Zionism.

Starting point is 00:50:48 I hope that God breaks her teeth out and she dies. She is a wicked person. She is like the perfect representation of religious Judaism. She is Satan's scoffer. She is there to take the world and make them laugh and then disc Jesus, try to take away the respect from Jesus. Hey Adam, how about you fucking kill yourself? Fuck you, Adam Fanon, you piece of shit,

Starting point is 00:51:12 masquerading as a man of God. Fuck, I hate you people so much. My least favorite people on earth, those who pretend to be holier now and you just wanna fucking put other people to death because they have different belief systems than you that aren't getting anybody hurt. Yeah, I want to put pedophiles to death because they're fucking predators. And you're a predator.

Starting point is 00:51:32 You're a predator out of my god, man. God, that fires me up. And these accusations, by the way, about Jewish people, you know, being, you know, these evil, satanic, you know, influenced, horrible know, these evil satanic, you know, uh, influenced horrible people trying to like do horrible things to kids, never been proven to be true. How crazy is that? Try to find one example of a Jewish pedophile ring. You won't because there hasn't been one fucking ever.

Starting point is 00:51:59 Not one time. There have been Jewish pedophiles. There has never been a Jewish pedophile ring. And there has certainly never been a Jewish satanic pedophile. There's never been a satanic pedophile ring ever. I'm going to address that later. But it's rampant on the internet. These claims of this shit. Yeah, ironically, no one has done more evil shit to Christian kids and Christians themselves. And that's not a knock on Christianity, but it is the truth. Right? See Catholic Church pedophile scandals. See the people running the Catholic Church.

Starting point is 00:52:29 They have fucked more kids than any supposed Satanist. In the 1980s, as we discussed in a few previous sucks, especially the Mandela effect sucked, 31, America was gripped by another satanic panic. And these satanic panics have gone on since like the first century C parents became convinced that their day case centers such as the mcmartan preschool in Manhattan Beach, California filled with Satanus. Oh, he's this, that's always the same story filled with Satanus, originally abusing their children. There were allegations of the mcmartan trial of children being sotomized and secret underground tunnels, their captors drank blood in front of them and staged satanic ritual sacrifices, witches literally flew around on literal

Starting point is 00:53:10 brooms. Kids were flushed down fake toilets in their underground fuck dungeons. I mean, this shit was talked about in court by grownups taking it seriously because they're fucking in certain ways morons, superstitious morons. That trial was a modern day Salem witch hunt. No evidence of anything, ruined a lot of lives. Some paranoid investigators creating false memories, harming innocent kids psychologically, putting a lot of innocent people in prison.

Starting point is 00:53:39 People who had their careers destroyed the 1999 film, Eyes Wide Shut, that depicts a fictional secret society, right? Conducting a cult-like sexual ceremony, spawned that spawn fevered speculation that the director Stanley Kubrick was just trying to expose some real stuff going on, right? He's just diluting the people site that movie now. Is an example of like, ah, they're showing you

Starting point is 00:54:01 what goes on. Anna Merlin, the author of Republic of Lies, American conspiracy theorists and their surprising rise to power, she says that allegations of pedophilia are central to some of the most widely circulated conspiracy theories on the internet today, which they are. And she attributes this in part to the simple horror of the crime.

Starting point is 00:54:19 If someone is abusing children, there is no worse of a thing to be. She also adds that conspiracies tend to weave their narratives in ways that conveniently implicate their political enemies while sparing their allies, which I find hilarious. Right? Funny how people like with Epstein, this recent thing. A lot of memes going around by people on the left, you know, acting like Trump was clearly behind it, and then a lot of other memes by people on the right acting like the Clintons behind it.

Starting point is 00:54:45 You know, even though both Trump and Clinton spend a lot of time with Epstein, so it's funny how someone who can serve it can be like, ah, fucking Clintons is like, no, no, no, no, Trump also tied just as closely Epstein. And then same thing, people on the left being like, ah, Trump, he fucking, he was his friend. As was many liberals. As was, yeah. People are just, they see what they want to see a lot of times. If you're gonna throw out guilty by association,

Starting point is 00:55:10 then you're gonna throw out all associates, not just the ones who aren't in your political team. More than also as conspiracy theories are aren't based on nothing, right? Saying that with every new pedophile arrest, with every new me too, allegation, convictions deepen amongst the true believers. Saying any sort of sexual abuse scandal that involves powerful people is taken as proof

Starting point is 00:55:29 of their basic thesis. It's sort of a sad reality that the world is so full of rape and sexual abuse and predation of women and children that it's possible to think this is real. Again, the Jeffrey Epstein case, good example of something really horrible that seems to be entirely true, as we'll see in a bit. And then the reality of like the Epstein case will give fuel to fake stories like the ninth circle cult. So let's look into some real evil shit that makes other not real evil shit seem way too plausible. Things that allow the imaginations of others to ramp up to ninth circle cult levels will start by taking a peek at some of the worst pedophiles who have ever walked the earth. Boy, uh, oh, Earl Bradley, first up. This guy,

Starting point is 00:56:10 I think top five, just a little snippet about him here, but top five rage level, uh, out of everyone we talked about, talking about this guy, get ready for your skin to crawl, get ready to want to punch holes in the walls around you. Earl Bradley is considered by many to be the worst pedophile in American history. After what I've read about him, I have to agree. Earl Brian Bradley, former pediatrician from Los, or Luz, Delaware, convicted serial child molester, terrifying example of evil hiding in plain sight. While he wasn't part of a pedophile ring or a member of some kind of cult, what he did

Starting point is 00:56:40 was so fucking evil. I could see how others could use the reality of what he did to justify suspicions of others organizing to do more of the same. Earl Bradley was indicted in 2010 on 471 charges, the molesting, raping, and exploiting 103 child patients, 102 girls, one boy, some of the victims were as young as three months old. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:57:03 And the real victim count likely much, much higher. Bradley has thought to have molested over 1200 children before he went to jail in 2009. In one instance, 15 years before his arrest, Dr. Bradley was caught in the act but still got away with it. What the hell are you doing? You bastard.

Starting point is 00:57:18 His patients mother screamed when she found Bradley with his hand and her daughter's diaper in the process of molesting her. Trailing the mother to the parking lot, Bradley insists that she hadn't seen what she thought she saw. The police were called. Bradley had been literally caught in the act, but did not get in trouble. Bradley told the police that the mother who was poor, young, and unwed was trying to

Starting point is 00:57:36 extort money from him. And the lie worked. A detective wrote that compared to the doctor, the mother was not credible. A medical board investigator found that Bradley specialized in welfare patients. So a shakedown was a distinct possibility. The case was closed as son of a bitch, man, preyed on the poor. The doctor went on to become one of the nation's most prolific sexual predators for 15 more years.

Starting point is 00:57:59 Earl Bradley raved to molested, satamized, a generation of pediatric patients along the Delaware seashore. He recorded 13 hours, I mean, that were found 13 hours of assault on video. And this is even tougher to hear than everything I've said so far. Some of the assaults so violent, he had to resuscitate the victims to continue because they would lose consciousness

Starting point is 00:58:21 and he would wake them back up to continue to sexually assault them. And this happened while their parents waited in the lobby for their child to be done with the doctor's visit this mother fucker I know I sound crazy sometimes I said if you gave if I wasn't gonna go to jail for doing it I would curb stomp him to death today If they would if they would let me in the cell to just stomp his fucking skull into oblivion I swear to God I would do that And have a fucking smile on my face. This piece of shit currently incarcerated the Cheshire correctional institution, Cheshire Connecticut, any time suckers currently incarcerated there. If you, you know, happen to accidentally brutally murder this pile of walking garbage, please

Starting point is 00:59:00 send in a time sucker update. So I can read about your heroism and share it with the world. Be pretty fun to hear about how he accidentally slipped in the shower, fell on a knife, that somehow cut his dick off, and then got accidentally jammed up his ass, and then he bled out and died. What a terrible accident that would be. And I had to stop looking into the court details in this guy, because it just makes me want to scream with rage and also cry and feel sick. Earl Bradley, living monster, truly he dies, suffering some of the pain

Starting point is 00:59:25 and inflicted on his many victims. Real example of doing something almost as evil is what the fake members of the fake night circle called were accused of. Next on the list of subhuman garbage is one of the UK's worst pedophiles, Richard Huckle. Richard William Huckle was convicted of 71 counts of serious sexual assaults against children

Starting point is 00:59:43 while posing as a teacher, photographer, and devout Christian in Malaysia. Believe that he molested somewhere near 200 Malaysian children. Huckle has been described as one of Britain's worst ever pedophiles, despite being only 28 years old at the time of his arrest. On June 6, 2016, he was given 22 life sentences with a minimum prison term of 25 years before being eligible to apply for parole. How the fuck does someone get 22 life sentences and then become eligible for parole in 25 years?

Starting point is 01:00:10 Why is the possibility of parole ever given to a dirt bag who has done so much damage? This fake Christian posed as an English teacher, doing good deeds, to gain access to children from poor, real Christian families. After being caught, Huckle expressed remorse for his horrific actions or at least pretended to, saying, I don't wanna become a martyr to sex tourism in Malaysia. This was all my doing as a consequence of my own immaturities.

Starting point is 01:00:36 Immaturities, excuse me, sorry, what was that? Immaturities, is that what it was? Since when was being immature, synonymous with kid fucking? Huckle said in his letter to the court, he had completely misjudged the affections, I received from this show. Oh, he's not a bad guy. He just has a hard time reading the room, you know?

Starting point is 01:00:54 He just misjudged. He's misunderstanding. He, he, he thought a young kid glancing in him from across the room while playing with some toys on the floor, meant that kid wanted his dick in his butt. He's just a misunderstanding. I hope that guy dies too. A Huckle added that he was influenced by pathetic perverted lust of those who drew me into

Starting point is 01:01:10 the dark net. That was his fault. You know, it's bad influences. And another example here of giving credibility to the existence of pedophile rings, right? He was lured into this by some mysterious others. He was taken in by an underground network of perverts, which I do believe exists by the way. I just don't think they exist in a road wearing,

Starting point is 01:01:26 let's drink kids blood and chant a Satan kind of way. More of a loose connection, a greasy haired basement to others, and to be fair, also totally normal looking people, the scariest ones of all to me, who want to fuck kids and take pictures and videos of doing that, and then share them with other perverts on the dark web.

Starting point is 01:01:42 I do think that type of thing exists because there's a rest examples to back that up. To make this guy that much more hateable, also evidence that Huckle wrote a pedophile manual. Pfft. Titled, pedophiles in poverty, child lover guide, as well as pito points ledger, which he details rapes in various sexual acts. He admitted to 71 child sex offenses, including multiple rapes against 23 identified

Starting point is 01:02:05 children age between six months and 12 years old. Six months, man. Buh. Staying in England, we're almost done with this. Speaking to the supposed famous members of the Ninth Circle conspiracy, right? Because it's all about people in power, deletes. One of the most famous pedophiles in the world was British TV personality Jimmy Saville. Jimmy Saville sexually abused hundreds of children and women at the height of his fame and did so over the course of six decades. And he did despite being extremely well known to the British public. For American listeners, this would be the equivalent of Dick Clark from American ban stand being outed as a sex criminal or, you know, you know, you know know, that's a jack, who is not a pedophile.

Starting point is 01:02:47 No allegations at all against Mr. Say Jack effort to be very clear. He seems nothing less than a fine-up standing citizen. Investigators believe that the long-time BBC host radio personality who hosted the enormously popular long-running music show top of the pops for over 20 years, prayed on around 500 vulnerable victims as young as two years old. What the institutions, including children who came to visit the BBC's broadcast studios, 14 hospitals, 20 children's hospitals across England, and he got away with it. He died on October 21, 2011 at the age

Starting point is 01:03:16 of 84, died of free man. Most of the investigations into his pedophilia came after his death. 450 alleged victims ended up contacting the police in the 10 weeks right after the investigation was launched after his death. UK police described the alleged abuse as abuse on an unprecedented scale and the number of potential victims is staggering because of Seville's fame and the alleged protection he received from the BBC. His story adds fuel to legends like the ninth circle Circle Cold conspiracy. I mean, after all, Saville did hang around the royal family. He reported he spent holidays with the Thatchers, was knighted by Queen Elizabeth, even given a papal knighthood by Pope John Paul II.

Starting point is 01:03:56 And there have been many other famous folks who have been caught and prosecuted for sex crimes. Here's a few examples of those. I remember Jared Fogel, the subway sandwich spokesman in the early 2000s. I used to see that goofy fuck on TV every day. He was to the subway, $5 foot longs with O.J. Simpson was to hurt Renekar commercials. In 2015, law enforcement agents raided his home as part of a child pornography investigation. Then in August of 2015, Fogel pled guilty to possessing and distributing child pornography

Starting point is 01:04:24 and crossing state lines to pay for sex acts with at least two teenage girls. He was sentenced to 15 years in prison, won't be eligible for parole until 2028, which is way too soon. I don't like this because based on, you know, studies, the pedophiles, it's probably going to reaffirm when he gets out. He's only going to be 51 when he's released. He's still going to have plenty of boners to work with. What do you think he's going to want to do with those boners?

Starting point is 01:04:46 Sexual videos with children as young as six years old were found on his hard drive. Six years old. Also in a series of text messages that were subpoenaed for his trial, he talked about sexually abusing children ranging from nine to 16. Also texted someone that he would pay big if they could bring him 14 year old girls. Texted that he was sexually interested in young boys, texted that he also craved under age Asian girls. I hope for the sake of sparing potential future victims pain.

Starting point is 01:05:14 He dies before his release or maybe a little bit better. Dies like right as he's walking out, you know, so he can service full term. Another famous shit machine, recently in the news from multiple sexual abuse allegations that have supposedly gone on for years is R Kelly. 1994 Robert Kelly, aka R Kelly married now deceased R&B star, Alaya. I'm sorry, messing up her name. I thought I had it. Now I don't.

Starting point is 01:05:38 A-A-L-I-Y-A-H. Not somebody that I don't, I don't think she's on my Spotify playlist right now. A falsified Cook County marriage certificate listed her ages 18, but she was only 15 at the time. I did look into the details on that dug up the marriage certificate, which is, yeah, easily accessible in line. Our Kelly was 27.

Starting point is 01:05:58 And while the age gap wouldn't have been frowned upon in like 1894, very taboo in 1994. Our Kelly seems to like him young. Between 1996, 2002, Kelly was sued by three women claiming he had sex with them when they were underage. By another woman claiming she was unknowingly videotaped while having sex with Kelly, since then an unspecified number of women have threatened to file similar lawsuits.

Starting point is 01:06:19 In 2003, a videotaped was leaked to the Chicago Sun Times, which allegedly showed Kelly having sex with an underage girl. That video was sent to the Chicago Sun Times, which allegedly showed Kelly having sex with an underage girl. That video was sent to the police and Kelly was indicted on 21 counts of making child pornography. Each count for a specified sexual act depicted in the tape, Kelly's indictment was reduced to 14 counts. One of the sexual acts, by the way, pissing on a girl's face, how fucked up is that?

Starting point is 01:06:43 When you read about this indictment, you don't get the feeling that she wanted to be pissed on. You get the feeling that Arkelly enjoys sexually degrading young women. In 2008, Kelly was found not guilty on all counts. Jura said that they were certain that Kelly was the man in the tape, but they just couldn't verify that the woman in the tape was underage. And now Arkelly is back in court accused of racketeering and sexual exploitation of children children he's been hit with well over 20 different charges in Minneapolis, Chicago and Brooklyn. He's allegedly sexually exported at least five underage girls and women since January 1999 at 99 in Illinois, California, New York, Connecticut and other locations. He allegedly made these girls call him daddy and didn't give them permission to leave their

Starting point is 01:07:25 rooms without his say so. Never gave a shit about his music before. All this came out. Certainly will not be listing now. Next on the list of shit lords that, you know, are well known that have done horrible things or at least been accused by a lot of people doing horrible things, director Roman Polanski. Now, Roman Polanski, the Oscar winning director behind Rosemary's Baby and the pianist is what you might call the poster child of Celebrity Sex offenders.

Starting point is 01:07:48 In 77, Polansky was arrested and charged with statutory rape, satamy, and child molestation after allegedly drugging and having sexual relations with a 13 year old girl. He was 43. I don't repeat that for any fans of his movies. When he was 43, he drugged and annually raped a 13 year old. He would charge with rape by use of drugs, perversion, satami, lude, and lascivus acts upon a child under 14 and furnishing the control of substance to a minor. And he did not get in any trouble because after showing up in court prosecutors looked to disbursed certificate and did realize that he's Polish and we do know that Polish people

Starting point is 01:08:29 can't be held responsible for crimes they commit because they're just not intellectually capable of understanding concepts like morals and loss. And I do get that. I mean, putting a Polish person in prison, it doesn't make any more sense and like putting a dog or like a gerbil or like a goldfish in prison because intellectually, you know, kind of the same. And I am kidding, new listener. I just like taking random shots at my wife's people, the polls.

Starting point is 01:08:50 No, Roman took a plea deal, pled guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse with a biner, under the terms of the plea agreement, the court ordered plans, key to report to a state prison for a 90-day psychiatric evaluation, determined if he should receive prison time or be given outpatient rehabilitation. He was released after 42 days. And then while a judge was evaluating whether or not he should be sent to prison, some photos surfaced of Roman at October, Fest in Germany with his arms around some girls in a flirtatious way. And those girls appeared to be very, very young.

Starting point is 01:09:23 When Roman heard he might get prison time now because it's upcoming hearing based on these photos and what the judge was thinking, he buys a one-way ticket to England. He flees to France, a country where he holds citizenship, a country that can refuse to extradite citizens to the U.S. and he's been living free and hiding out in Europe ever since. And I don't think he feels too bad about what he did. If you're still a fan of this guy, check this out. 1979, plans he gave a controversial interview with novelist Martin Amos in which discussing his conviction.

Starting point is 01:09:50 He says, if I had killed somebody, it wouldn't have had so much appeal to the press. You see, but fucking you see, and the young girls judges want to fuck young girls. Juries want to fuck young girls. Everyone wants to fuck young girls. This is a quote from this guy from 1979. Wait a rationalize, right? Yeah, I did it. Fucking course. I did what any man would have done. You know, if they would have been able to lure her into the hot tub and give her some quailudes, you're going to try and demonize me. Come on. lure her into the hot tub and give her some quailudes. And what, you're gonna try and demonize me? Come on.

Starting point is 01:10:25 We all know that every dude slows down when they cruise by a medical school to check out all that hot sexy young pus. That's not criminal, that's just bros being bros. I mean, come on, come on. Like every guy in here doesn't jerk off in the bushes in the city park when some sexy ass junior hires walk by

Starting point is 01:10:42 after band practice, police. They can all agree that every 40 something year old do wants to motorboat some fresh out the box junior high titties. And there's grass on the field. Am I right? Come on guy. Oh, tell anyone, anyone? No, okay. Fucking son of a bitch.

Starting point is 01:10:57 That's going to be fun when someone pulls that audio out of a context. Dan Cummins, member of the ninth circle Circle Cult, hiding and playing site to help provide additional understanding regarding how someone could believe in something like the Ninth Circle Cult. Let's look into some actual pedophile rings. One example is the case of boylever.net. Back in 2011, a massive internet pedophile ring with up to 70,000 online members was busted by numerous law enforcement agencies working together. The bus was part of Operation Rescue. Identified 670 suspects and 230 abused children in over 30 countries. 184 people were arrested, that really happened. Unfortunately, this now gets portrayed fictitiously online. Now, the story is presented as if it's happening, as if it's just going on, the operation is still going on.

Starting point is 01:11:40 The suspects are incorrectly identified as global elites. There's rumors of satanic overtones, which there wasn't, and the investigation is listed as ongoing, which is not. No, it's just a bunch of regular old purves, sharing naked photos of kids online and they got caught. They weren't European royals. No babies blood was being drank. They weren't with sacrifice to the devil. Operation rescue was a joint effort involving the European Union agency for law enforcement

Starting point is 01:12:04 cooperation, Europe poll, and law enforcement in 13 different countries initiated in 2007 ended in 2011. Another online PIDO ring was busted just this past May. 50 children were rescued. Nine people were arrested in Thailand, Australia, and the US after an interpol investigation that began in 2007, 2017, excuse me, concluded in May. The investigation folks on a hidden dark website was 63,000 online users, way too many creeps.

Starting point is 01:12:34 Operation Black Rist was launched by Interpol after detected images showing 11 different boys, age under 13, being abused on a site where people could use encrypted software to maintain secrecy and watch. Also, Operation Black Risk. Seriously, does it kind of jerk off reference? But yeah, so that was busted. Pizzagate, another example of a pedophile ring being busted, except it wasn't busted because it wasn't real.

Starting point is 01:12:58 That's actually an example of a fake pedophile ring. If you don't believe me, go back and listen to time, so I said 64. Did an entire suck on Pizzagate, it's no more credible than the nine circle call. It's really not. While pizza gate and the nine circle called are not real, sex trafficking is real, right? And you can bet there are rings of sex traffickers in the sense that some groups of people are working together to kidnap other people, including kids, sell them to other groups who sexually exploit them for profit. No robes, no promises made to the Dark Lord, but still very disturbing.

Starting point is 01:13:26 Here are some disturbing sex trafficking stats. In September, 2017, the International Labor Organization, ILO, estimated that 24.9 million men, women and children were the victims of human trafficking around the globe. 25 million in a year. While trafficking victims can be individuals of both genders, the majority of victims are women and girls. And according to data from the UN, 51% of victims are women, while another 20% are girls accounting for 71% of victims. Also according to UN's office on drugs and crimes, 2016 global report on trafficking, 54%

Starting point is 01:14:02 of all trafficking victims in 2014 were trafficked for the purpose of sexual exploitation. So, you can combine that with the 2017 numbers. You can get like a rough estimate of, you know, 12, 13 million meat sex, mostly women and girls being sex trafficked just in one year. Although there are no other official numbers or estimates regarding the number of human trafficking victims in the US, Polaris, aprofit working to combat modern-day slavery in human trafficking says they saw a 13% jump in identified cases from 2016 to 2017 and this organization believes the overall number of human trafficking victims in just the US is in the hundreds of thousands

Starting point is 01:14:39 hundreds of thousands of people and with all these cases for share accounts different type Different types of sex rings. And we can spend hours talking about them all. That's not necessary to illustrate the point that irrational fears regarding fictitious child predators are likely at least partially based on real examples of lots of child predators. So let's now look at two final examples,

Starting point is 01:14:58 of real groups of people engaged in widespread pedophilia. The first will be the Catholic church because no giant organization has come even close to producing as many pedophilia. The first will be the Catholic Church, because no giant organization has come even close to producing as many pedophilia arrests as a Catholic Church. After that, we'll look at current news stories, generating a significant amount of concern about Petyl Rings, all these news stories, talking about the case of Jeffrey Epstein.

Starting point is 01:15:21 We'll do a little time-slick timeline in each of those. Before we examine the history of the Catholic Church's own priests and atrocities towards children, let's start by illustrating just how powerful the Catholic Church is because this, you know, stokes fears of a powerful organization hiding people and doing horrible things to kids because that is what happened. Maybe this is why the Pope and the Jesuits are woven into the night circle called lore, right? The Catholic Church, huge, powerful, kind of secret.

Starting point is 01:15:45 Lots of rituals. Definitely had lots of pedophiles and the ranks. It's impossible to tell just how wealthy the Catholic Church is. The organization is just too big, too old, too spread out around the globe. Their finances are too hidden. But in article in Times Magazine, it came out way back in 1965, said that after journalists did some investigating, the Vatican's wealth was thought to be somewhere between 10 and 15 billion.

Starting point is 01:16:08 And that would be equivalent anywhere from 80 to 120 billion dollars today. And that's basing the increase in value, just using an inflation calculator. But since a lot of their wealth has been tied up and some of the best real estate in the world, and the price of property has grown faster than the rate of inflation in much of the world, I mean, their true value as a worldwide organization could be considerably higher than 120 billion dollars. So it's safe to say they're fucking loaded. I mean, that amount of wealth could theoretically pay for covering up a lot of terrible things. According to Forbes magazine, Pope Francis is considered the six most powerful person in the world. The human voice of the Catholic God ranks right up there

Starting point is 01:16:45 with leaders of China, Russia, the US, Germany, Jeff Bezos of Amazon. The Catholic Church very powerful. Makes sense that people would worry about the Pope. Historically, a lot of very powerful people have done terrible things. Historically, the Catholic Church has done a lot of terrible things. Yeah, so I can see how stories that come out about the Catholic Church can feed into the Ninety Circle lore. Let's take a look at the history of pedophile priests in today's first time, so timeline. But keep in mind, as we go through here, that many, many instances of abuse, despite all these instances, the vast majority of priests, I feel obligated to point out, have never been accused of being pedophiles, so to be fair

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Starting point is 01:19:22 Maybe to have him back then maybe didn't. Doyle doesn't give a lot of any real details about that first alleged incident, but there are a lot of details about much more recent incidents. 1947, the servants of the parakeet opens in Jim S. Spring's New Mexico as a treatment center for priests accused of molesting children, founded by Reverend Gerald Fitzgerald, which is a great name. Gerald Fitzgerald, which is a great name. Gerald Fitzgerald, that's almost as bad as Donald McGrondled. And that's when you know your organization has a real problem, by the way, when you have

Starting point is 01:19:52 a full-time retreat center set up specifically for child molesters. I wish I could have chosen how to decorate and run that retreat and train some employees. Right in the lobby, I would have a big old welcome sign, you know, like, right when you walk into, welcome dirt bags. Please stop fucking kids. It's very wrong. And then I'd have every employee working their train to reinforce that message. Like, you know, like when they checked in,

Starting point is 01:20:12 the front desk clerk would be like, let me get a key for your room. I just one key, correct? I mean, you should only need one key since no one else is listed on your reservation, especially not any kids that you probably trying to fuck if they were, right? I mean, that's correct, just one key.

Starting point is 01:20:24 Just one key for you that you're not going to use to be clear to bring kids back to your room to fuck, are you? Just want to make sure that you're aware that that's very wrong. It's not okay to do on any level. And then when those guys, when those priests would go to a restaurant, I'd have the waiters say stuff like, we'd like to hear about today's specials. Our soup today is a nice clam chowder. It's made fresh from scratch and during the cooking process,

Starting point is 01:20:45 not a single kid is fucked or molested, isn't that nice? Don't you think that's a good way to make chowder? Without fucking molesting kids? We also have a nice filet mignon on the menu that is never touched a little boy's balls or butthole. Do anything that's a nice way to prepare a steak by not letting a touch or letting a little boy's buttholes or both?

Starting point is 01:21:00 Those things probably shouldn't be touched, you know, by our chefs or by you priests. Don't you think? It's very wrong. Not because I wouldn't have anybody trained to do that. If I was in charge, they would just walk in and then it'd be a trap door and they would just fall into a fucking pit of

Starting point is 01:21:14 ferocious animals. Welcome kid, they learned it. Foo! Ah, I'm just like, Eden. Next problem. 1924, Reverend Jill Bear, Goth, a priest in the diocese of Lafayette, Louisiana, is indicted on 34 counts of sex crimes against children.

Starting point is 01:21:31 He's the first priest in the U.S. to face a criminal trial for child sexual abuse. In October 86, he pleads guilty, sends to 20 years in prison, ultimately serving only nine years. That's fucked up. 34 kids, right? You mess with and you get nine years, and yet there's still people in prison, you know,

Starting point is 01:21:47 for life in some instances for doing shit like related to like weed to marijuana distributions bullshit June of 1905 Reverend Thomas Doyle got the attorney Ray Moulton released a report called the problem of sexual molestation by Roman Catholic clergy meeting the problem in a comprehensive and responsible manner. In the report, Doyle warns Bush bishops of the dangers that exist in the church and outlines how sexual abuse allegations should be handled. Doyle said that church leaders dismissed his report, told him they already knew everything and that they already had some policies in place for dealing with sexual abuse. Policies that clearly were not working.

Starting point is 01:22:23 I think their policy was just to like ignore it and hide it. In July 1997, Adalis Jury awarded a landmark $119 million dollar judgment against the Catholic Church, the largest ever, to 11 survivors of clergy sexual abuse. After the trial, attorney Sylvia Demara says, I hope this wakes up to Pope. It doesn't. The pope responded with an official statement just writing worth it. 10 out of 10 would fuck again. So not cool, you know, I would be seriously not cool if that happened. He can imagine the outrage if, you know, like there was alligat, like with modern allegations, if people are tweeting the pope and he just tweets back worth it.

Starting point is 01:23:02 January 2002, the Boston Globe releases a groundbreaking story that the church allowed a Boston priest known from a less than boys to transfer in and out of parishes, or he continued to molest more boys, rather than remove him from the ministry. So fucked up, they knew, they knew who he was, what he was doing, and just let him continue to be a predator. Some shepherds, some shepherds, those Boston area bishops were, June of 2002, after meeting in Dallas, Texas, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, established as the charter for the protection

Starting point is 01:23:32 of children and young people, commonly known as the Dallas Charter, which calls for zero tolerance for priests who sexually abuse children, does not however address Catholic bishops who cover up cases, or allow abusive priests to continue in ministry, which was a serious problem. In March of 2009, New Hampshire named 27 priests accused of abuse after the attorney general's

Starting point is 01:23:53 office completed a five-year audit of the diocese of Manchester. My God. Pope Francis meets with clergy as sexual abuse survivors and promises zero tolerance for priests who abused children in July of 2014. The movie spotlight is released in the in September of 2015. The award-winning film follows how the Boston Globes investigative spotlight team uncovered the Catholic Church hiding sexual abuse within the archdiocese or diocese of Boston. I did see that movie.

Starting point is 01:24:20 Powerful, excellent movie would not change a thing about it. Three out of five stars. One of the broadest inquiries into clergy sexual abuse in US history, uh, happened in August, 2018, a Pennsylvania grand jury released a report, concluding that 300 Pennsylvania Catholic priests sexually abused over a thousand child victims over seven decades. It's just it was, it was epidemic, uh, In December of 2018, Pope Francis calls for all priests who have raped and molested children to turn themselves in. Right. I'm sure that, I'm sure that really helped. Hey guys, stop it and tell us who you are. That always works.

Starting point is 01:24:55 The Pope promises the church will never again cover up clergy sexual abuse. And then a picture reveals that his fingers are crossed behind his back. When you said that, you know, and of course, that's not true, but I don't believe him. Pure speculation, but I think the Catholic Church probably still is hiding some pedophiles. There's too much money to lose when they get caught. The lawsuits are too big. Still in December of 2018, the Illinois Attorney General released his preliminary findings in an investigation that revealed the state's six dioceses. I think as I say that, failed to disclose sexual abuse allegations against 500 additional priests and clergy members.

Starting point is 01:25:26 In January of 2019, U.S. Catholic bishops gathered in Illinois for a week-long retreat of prayer and reflection. He's related to the clergy sexual abuse crisis. That's cute, guys. That's sweet. But I don't think you get to get to pray, kid fuckers away. I'm pretty sure execution works, but I know, I don't think prayer does. Hard to stick anything in the kids anywhere if you're dead, but I don't think anyone has

Starting point is 01:25:49 ever been about to molest a kid and then they're just like, nah, and then you know, turns out somebody was was praying for them to not do that. February 2019, the world's Catholic bishops gathered in the Vatican with the Pope to discuss preventing pre-sex abuse. They collectively decide that, you know, it's bad. And they should probably call the police. We need to find a creep. Good job, guys. Good, wait a brainstorm.

Starting point is 01:26:10 Wait a solid that's super not a complicated problem. And that is it for the first timeline of today. Good job, soldier. You've made it back, barely. back. Barely. So yeah, a lot of, a lot of kitty, fiddling and diddlin amongst the supposed to be supposed to be celibate, priest of the Catholic Church. Again, most priests, you know, don't seem to be interested in fucking kids at all, but a lot of priests have abused their position of trust, have been protected by the church, which then makes they believe in, you know, the possibility of secretive groups of pedophiles not seem so crazy because there

Starting point is 01:26:47 is a precedent. Although a lot of information is hidden, um, sealed in various records and court documents around the world. Here is a few estimates of the damage caused collectively by the church's leaders. There are over 410,000 Catholic priests around the world, according to the Catholic news service. A church commission report in 2004 said more than 4,000 U.S. Roman Catholic priests had faced sexual abuse allegations in the last 50 years, in cases involving more than 10,000 children, mostly boys.

Starting point is 01:27:17 A 2009 report found that sexual and psychological abuse was endemic in Catholic run industrial schools and orphanages. In Ireland, for most of the 20th century, now, how extra sad, man, run industrial schools and orphanages in Ireland for most of the 20th century. Now, how extra sad man, some poor kid and orphanage already, you know, doesn't have parents in the world and then just getting molested by somebody who's supposed to be giving him spiritual guidance. A five year Australian inquiry in 2017

Starting point is 01:27:38 found that tens of thousands of children were sexually abused in Australian institutions over decades, including churches, schools, and sports clubs. Finally the church has paid out more than $3 billion dollars so far to settle sexual abuse claims. That's a lot of sexual abuse. Okay.

Starting point is 01:27:56 Now let's talk about another possibly, if not probably, very real pedophile ring, the one that orbited around the late Jeffrey Epstein. His life may have ended just over a week and go on August 10th, but his story is far from over. Still unraveling, probably will continue to unravel for quite some time. Again, not a tale of dudes and cloaks, sacrifice to anyone to Satan or drinking baby's blood,

Starting point is 01:28:15 but a super rich, slimy dude, taking other dudes, rich and powerful dudes, you know, on the, you know, jet trips, where there are fucking teen girls in the plane or fucking on his private island and then use an evidence of these illegal acts. These dudes just committed to leverage financial opportunities for himself. You know, if all of this has happened, which it seems to have happened, pretty evil, not quite the horror movie tale that the ninth circle cult is, but still real bad.

Starting point is 01:28:41 And we're going to do a time stock timeline, a timeline Epstein as well. After you spend a little time kind of laying out some non chronological Epstein info. Who was he? Epstein started his career in New York City as a math teacher. At the elite Dalton school, but in the 1970s, he went to work with investment banker Bear Sterns before founding his own firm, Jay Epstein and Coe in 1982. According to Vox, he specifically marketed his services to those with assets worth more than a billion dollars. So, you know, global elite operated his company out of the US Virgin Islands for tax reasons. In 2018, Epstein pleaded guilty to a felony charge of solicitation of prostitution of

Starting point is 01:29:19 all of the minor. With sense to 18 months in prison, served only 13, granted work release, which allowed him to commute to an office outside the jail six days a week. He did have to register as a sex offender, but since this motherfucker owned his own island, it's not a kid that notified neighbors about who he was. In addition to being a pedophile,

Starting point is 01:29:35 Epstein was also a philanthropist, which put him in regular, favorable contact with a variety of powerful and influential people. Global elites. One of the many causes to which Epstein donated, you know, or of excuse me, of the many causes to which Epstein donated academic scientists were a notable group.

Starting point is 01:29:52 The New York Times reported that he apparently dangled financing for their pet projects. In front of them attracted a distinguished group of acquaintances, including several noble laureates to his home for parties and to scientific conferences that he sponsored. Also allegedly pressured a variety of underage girls to sleep with many of these scientists. Who else hung out with Epstein?

Starting point is 01:30:12 A lot of politicians. Epstein associated with politicians on both sides of the aisle. I'm going to hit that note again. Both sides come from somebody standing in the middle, including presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump's name, just two. I've known Jeff for 15 years, terrific guy. Trump told New York magazine in 2002. He's a lot of fun to be with.

Starting point is 01:30:31 It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do. And many of them are on the younger side. Okay. Following the news of his recent arrest, Trump said he has distanced himself with Epstein in recent years, saying I had a falling out with him. I haven't spoken to him in 15 years. I was not a fan of his that I can tell you. There are reports of President Trump banned Epstein from one or all of his clubs following

Starting point is 01:30:52 his conviction back in 2008. Former President Bill Clinton issued a public statement recently acknowledging that he has written on Epstein's private plane, but that he was unaware of Epstein's criminal activity. As a Clinton spokesperson said, President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to and floor to some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York. In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane, one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the

Starting point is 01:31:24 work of the Clinton foundation. There are some conspiracy theorists claiming now that Trump had Epstein killed to keep him getting named by Epstein as a pedophile and a lot more conspiracy theorists claiming that the Clinton's had Epstein killed to keep him from naming Bill or Bill and Hillary as pedophiles. For the record, there is thus far zero evidence linking either Trump or the Clinton's to having sex with anyone related to the Epstein case. None of the accusers, and they've accused many people, none of them, you know, in the Epstein

Starting point is 01:31:51 case, have accused Trump or Clinton or the clins as people that Epstein or his assistant Gelaen Maxwell pressured them into having sex with. Could that change? Yes, it could. But again, no evidence so far, despite what Kevin D. Annette and Randy Shock and Judy Byton and those types like to say on Reddit or post and YouTube comment threads, they are just just talking out their asses. At one point, Epstein also notably had ties to Queen Elizabeth's son, Prince Andrew. The extent of their relationship is somewhat unclear, but they were spotted walking together

Starting point is 01:32:23 in Central Park in late 2010. At that point in time, Epstein was already convicted sex offenders. So, you know, best case, poor judgment, poor choice for Prince Andrew to hang out with him. Now let's talk about his recent arrest. Epstein was arrested at Teterborough Airport in New Jersey last month, July 6, after arriving back in the US from France. He was charged by federal prosecutors the following Monday and then pled not guilty.

Starting point is 01:32:47 Federal prosecutors also searched his New York City home following his arrest. According to the New York Times, during the search of his townhouse, investigators see photographs of nude underage girls. According to the Daily Beast, prosecutors wrote the following in a memo requesting Epstein be jailed until his trial, the defendant, a registered sex offender, is not reformed. He is not chasened. He is not repentant. Rather, he is a continuing danger to the community and an individual who faces devastating

Starting point is 01:33:13 evidence supporting deeply serious charges. Prosecutors said the case would involve a million pages of discovery, including evidence from his Manhattan mansion. They wanted the trial to begin next June. Prosecutors thought the trial would have lasted four to six weeks. On July 18th, Epstein was denied bail. He had previously said he was willing to post a hundred million dollars. Per the New York Times prosecutors argued that Mr Epstein's vast wealth said to be

Starting point is 01:33:39 more than 500 million would make it possible for him to flee the country if he were not held in jail. NBC News reported that Judge Berman said, I doubt any bail package can overcome any danger to the community. On July 24th, Epstein was reportedly found injured in his cell, though it was unclear initially what happened to him. It was soon apparent that it was a suicide attempt and he was put on suicide watch. And then he was in jail and he knew that if convicted of the charges against him, he's going to face a maximum prison of 45 years.

Starting point is 01:34:07 Let's look at that indictment to see what those charges were exactly. There were two charges in the indictment, one for sex trafficking, one for a sex trafficking conspiracy. The indictment accused the defendant Jeffrey Epstein of sexually exploiting and abusing dozens of minor girls at his homes in Manhattan, New York and Palm Beach, Florida, among other locations, it said, in particular, from at least in or about 2002, up to and including at least in or about 2005, Jeffrey Epstein, the defendant enticed and recruited and caused to be enticed

Starting point is 01:34:37 and recruited. Minor girls to visit his mansion in Manhattan, New York and his estate in Palm Beach, Florida to engage in sex acts with him after which he would give the victims hundreds of dollars in cash. Moreover, in order to maintain and increase his supply of victims, Epstein also paid certain of his victims to recruit additional girls to be similarly abused by Epstein. In this way, Epstein recreated a vast network of underage victims for him to sexually exploit in locations including New York and Palm Beach.

Starting point is 01:35:08 The victims described herein, whereas young as 14 years old, at the time they were abused by Jeffrey Epstein, the defendant and were, for various reasons, often particularly vulnerable to exploitation. Epstein intentionally sought out minors and knew that many of his victims were in fact under the age of 18, including because, in some instances, minor victims expressly told him their age in creating and maintaining this network of minor victims in multiple states to sexually abuse and exploit Jeffrey Epstein, the defendant worked and conspired with others, including employees and associate who facilitated his conduct by, among other things, contacting

Starting point is 01:35:45 victims and scheduling their sexual encounters with Epstein at the New York Residence and at the Palm Beach Residence. When a victim arrived at the New York Residence, she typically would be escorted to a room with a massage table, where she would perform a massage on Jeffrey Epstein, the defendant, the victims who were as young as 14 years of age were told by Epstein or other individuals to partially or fully undress before beginning the quote, massage. During the encounter, Epstein would escalate the nature and scope of physical contact with his victim to include among other things sex acts such as groping and direct and indirect

Starting point is 01:36:19 contact with the victim of genitals. Epstein typically would also masturbate during the sexualizing counters, ask victims to touch him while he masturbated and touch victims of genitals with his hands or with sex toys. Moreover, Epstein actively encouraged certain of his victims to recruit additional girls to be similarly sexually abused. Epstein incentivizes victims to become recruiters by paying these victim recruiters hundreds of dollars

Starting point is 01:36:41 for each girl they brought to him. In doing so, Epstein maintained a steady supply of new victims to exploit. Epstein sometimes personally contacted victims, the schedule appointments by the New York or at the New York residents. In other instances, Epstein directed employees and associates to communicate with victims via phone to arrange for these victims to return to the New York residents for additional sexual encounters with Epstein. In addition to recruiting and abusing minor girls in New York, Jeffrey Epstein, the defendant

Starting point is 01:37:07 created a similar network of minor girls to victimize in Palm Beach, Florida. Epstein frequently traveled from New York to Palm Beach by private jets before which an employee or associate would ensure that minor victims were available for encounters upon his arrival in Florida. Right? I mean, so all of this, I mean, it does sound to me like a real life pedophile ring. Right? One where numerous adults conspire to have an adult engage in sexual activity with minors.

Starting point is 01:37:34 And there's other allegations, it's a very long report. I like that, you know, he wasn't just one of the, the only person victimizing his girls. He would also, you know, have business associates, people he was trying to impress. He would share the girls with them or instruct the girls to sexually satisfy them. And some of his associates who were helping him recruit like Maxwell also have been accused of victimizing these girls personally. So it is very pedophile ring-esque. I mean, not even ask.

Starting point is 01:38:00 It does seem to be a legitimate pedophile ring. One Epstein accuser, Virginia Jew free, has said that Epstein and his sidekick Maxwell directed her to have sex with former New Mexico governor, Bill Richardson, Britain's Prince Andrew, wealthy financier Glenn Dubin, former Senator George Mitchell, now deceased MIT scientist Marvin Minsky, modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel, as well as another prince, a foreign president, a well-known prime minister, the owner of a large hotel chain in France, on and on and on. Still not, you know, ninth circle cult hunting kids and putting their amount of dicks and

Starting point is 01:38:33 trophy rooms, but very disturbing. High profile attorney Alan Dershowitz also accused of having sex with underage girls supplied by Epstein and Maxwell. And who knows who else may be named in the days, weeks and months to come. Okay, so now let's hop into a second timeline to dig into this a little bit further. This timeline comes from the newspaper that broke the case, the Miami Herald. Shrap on those boots, soldier. We're marching down a time, sun, timeline. Epstein is born in 1953.

Starting point is 01:39:09 Epstein and his younger brother Mark raised by middle-class parents in Brooklyn. Father worked for the city's park department while his adult life would be defined by wealth and decadence. His childhood was very average middle-class. In the late 1960s and early 70s, and this is just going to be, you know, it's not an Epstein suck. So a little bit more of an overview than some timelines. In the late 60s, early 70s, Epstein dabbled in college education, but never obtained a degree.

Starting point is 01:39:31 From 1969 to 71, he attended the Cooper Union School of Engineering, a spokesman for New York University told reporters that Epstein took classes as a visiting student there from September 71 to June 74, did not take part in a specific degree program. New York magazine states that he also attended the current school of mathematics. The Huffington Post confirmed that Epstein landed a gig at the elite Dalton school, very you know, private procedure school in New York City's Upper East Side in 73. This is an elite K through 12 college prep school where Epstein would have taught the

Starting point is 01:40:01 children of some of New York's wealthiest and most powerful and influential people. Donald Barr was the headmaster at that school when Epstein was hired. Donald is the father of current attorney general William Barr, William Barr refused to recuse himself in the Epstein case before Epstein's death, despite this conflict of interest, interesting to note. According to your New York magazine and his 2002 profile of Epstein, he was something of a Robin Williams in dead poet society type of figure, wowing his high school classes with passionate mathematical risks.

Starting point is 01:40:31 Former Dalton teacher students and parents contacted by Huffington Post for Beck Kline had varied memories of the young instructor. Some not remembering him at all, some remembering noticing red flags in his behavior early on way back then where he seemed a little too chummy, little too flirty with some of the teen girls. Other simply recalled the eye catching for a county like to wear. 1976, Epstein left Dalton, according to New York and Vanity Fair, after his students father urged him to pursue a career on Wall Street. He then spent a few years as a trader at a now defunct investment bank where he used his

Starting point is 01:41:00 considerable mathematical skill and charisma and sales abilities and network abilities to have a rapid ascent to the top of this investment bank. He's now not teaching math to the children in New York City's rich and powerful. He's using math to make, you know, these people a lot of fucking money and become real choney with him. He starts to become pretty rich himself. In 1982, Epstein forms his own investment company, Jay Epstein and Co. Not sure if that company is still operational or not after his death. I can't locate a website for them. Maybe they never had one. They were pretty exclusive. The company claimed to give services to individuals and

Starting point is 01:41:32 families with a billion or more to manage. If you wanted to work with them, wanted to work with Epson. Epson would take control of the billion plus dollars, charge a flat fee, assume power of attorney to do whatever he thought was necessary to do to advance his client's financial cost. Lex or Les, excuse me, Les Wexner, founder of Underwear Maker L. Brands, which includes companies like Victoria Secret and Bath and Body Works, one of Epstein's clients. Sometime in the 90s Epstein purchases, it's included compound in Palm Beach, Florida, where it is the ledges of Epstein's sexually abused many underage girls from money? 1996, Epstein relocated his company to the US Virgin Islands, renamed his company, the Financial Trust Co. The relocation was reportedly made for tax purposes. In 2002,

Starting point is 01:42:15 New York reported that the company consisted of 150 purely administrative employees. Public information about the operation hard to find, including a list of clients. Epstein loved to work in secret and he was very good at it in the digital age, hard to find info about a lot of the stuff online. In the late 90s, Epstein moved into a Manhattan mansion that is one of the most expensive pieces of real estate in all of New York City. His value estimated it anywhere from 56 to 77 million dollars for one private residence in Manhattan.

Starting point is 01:42:43 How Epstein required this mansion remains a mystery. The New York Times reported Epstein declared it to be his property in a 1996 interview, according to Bloomberg, which cited one anonymous source familiar with the matter, Epstein client, Les, you know, Victoria's secret wexner sold the home in 1998 to a company affiliated with Epstein. Public records show the title transfer was not made until 2011. And when it was made, made for no money. Very strange, no substantiation of these rumors,

Starting point is 01:43:10 but a lot of people speculate that Epstein had some dirt on Wexner and blackmailed Wexner into giving him that home again. No proof of that, but a lot of speculation about it. Several of Epstein's accusers say the mansion is where he sexually assaulted them. And the mansion's decor, very ninth circle-esque, has around 40 rooms, decorate with a kind of a maze-like setup, decorate with stuff like body parts sculptures, a huge and haunting

Starting point is 01:43:33 self-portrait of Epstein, a life-sized female doll hanging from a chandelier. When you walk in, you are greeted with, greeted with, quote, row upon row of individually framed eyeballs imported from England. Oh, all right. As I say, that I'm like, this is fucking crazy. I'm thinking about I got pictures of serial killers all over the suck dungeon walls. It's not a little, it's not going to look good. If I, okay, according to one visitor who spoke to the Times, there's a chess board at the bottom of a staircase that's more than a little creepy.

Starting point is 01:44:05 Each of the customized figurines on the chess board are modeled after one of Epstein's staffers and all of them are dressed sexually, suggestively. Ha! I wonder what Reverend Dr. Horscock Johnson pays it, we'd think. If I had a bunch of statues of him around the suck dungeon, you know, just wearing little speedos, maybe one finger in his mouth, just suggestively winking. Uh. Uh, he'd probably think it was hilarious. I'd probably be more creeped out than him.

Starting point is 01:44:29 1998 Epstein purchases Little St. James Island in the US Virgin Islands. In the alarming 1998 report, the Associated Press described how people who lived in the areas surrounding Epstein's extremely private oasis started calling it pedophile island. When molestation accusations against him were first made public, you know, two decades, the lower two decades ago,

Starting point is 01:44:47 Epstein hired hundreds of workers to build a stone mansion on the island, along with the bizarre temple like structure nearby, very Coltty, most of the former employees of Epstein's refused to speak to the associate oppressed, citing long non-disclosure agreements they had signed around 1999, allegedly Epstein forced an underage Mara Lago worker to have sex with Prince Andrew and a lawyer, Alan Dershowitz. In 2015, Virginia Roberts, Jewelfree, said in a sworn affidavit that Maxwell initially approached her while she was working at Mara Lago and offered to

Starting point is 01:45:17 provide her with massage training. She was then brought to Epstein's Palm Beach mansion where she said Epstein abused her beginning in 1999 when she was 15. She said the abuse continued for several years during which she says she was passed around to other famous men. In 2002 Epstein allegedly raped a New York City high school student and his New York mansion in July 2019 in an interview with NBC's Today Show Jennifer arose said she was approached at the age of 14 by a young woman outside her high school in 2001, brought to Epstein's enormous townhouse mansion for the first time. And there he would abuse her and pay her money over

Starting point is 01:45:49 the following year, culminating in what she described as a forcible rape. In March of 2005, a 14-year-old girl and her parents reported the Jeffrey Epstein molested her at a mansion in Palm Beach. She said a female acquaintance in classmate at Royal Palm Beach High School has taken her to a house, given him a massage, uh, where'd given him a massage and exchanged for money. In April of 2005, the Palm Beach police began doing trash polls at Epstein's home, discovering a telephone message for Epstein with a girl's name on it. And a time that matched the time she told police, she was there. They find the names and phone numbers of other girls on message slips in this trash.

Starting point is 01:46:22 With the police probe and full swing by October of 2005, one of Epstein's assailants or assistance, excuse me, calls one of the girls just as she is being questioned by police. Investigators then began interviewing more girls as well as Epstein's butlers who tell them that Epstein had frequent visits from girls throughout the day. On October 20th, they executed search warrant at his house on Elbrillo Way in Palm Beach.

Starting point is 01:46:43 In May of 2006, police signed a probable cause after David charging Epstein and two of his assistants with multiple counts of unlawful sex acts with a minor. The Palm Beach state attorney, Barry Krischer, refers the case to a grand jury. In June of 2006, the grand jury, after hearing from only one girl, returns an indictment of one count of solicitation of prostitution. The charge does not reflect that the victim in question and others were minors. Weird. And July of 2006, Epstein's powerhouse legal team tries to negotiate a deal with the state

Starting point is 01:47:12 attorney's office. Lawyers discuss a deferred prosecution in which Epstein would enter a pretrial intervention program and serve no jail time. And July, again, after pressure from the Palm Beach Police Chief, the FBI opens a federal investigation dubbed Operation Leapier, documents listed, possible crime as child prostitution, And July, again, after pressure from the Palm Beach Police Chief, the FBI opens a federal investigation dubbed Operation Leap Year. Documents list, the possible crime is child prostitution. By November, the FBI begins interviewing potential witnesses, Victorans from Florida, New York, and New Mexico. In May of 2007, as the U.S. Attorney's Office prepares to present the case to a federal grand jury,

Starting point is 01:47:40 Epstein's attorney's request of meeting to discuss investigation. In September of 2007, federal prosecutors dropped several federal plea agreements that are rejected by Epstein and his attorneys. Epstein signs a non-prossecution agreement on September 24th, but his attorneys continued to delay a court appearance. With the non-prossecution agreement still being delayed, excuse me, in October of 2007, a cost to meet Epstein lawyer, a meet with Epstein lawyer, Jay Leafquits at the West Palm Beach Marriott on Oki Choby Boulevard to discuss finalizing a deal. Among the terms agreed upon that the victims would not be notified that the deal would be kept

Starting point is 01:48:15 under seal and all grand jury subpoenas would be canceled. Very suspicious. Everything being hidden. Epstein attorney, Leafquits calls a costum in January of 2008, telling him his client will not go through with the agreement because it requires him to register as a sex offender. When the plea negotiations in the Justice Department review still in limbo and February, the FBI continues his probe, locating more witnesses, located more evidence.

Starting point is 01:48:38 In March of 2008, preparations are made for a new federal grand jury presentation and court documents. The US Attorney's Office notifies that are notes that Epstein's victims are being harassed by his lawyers who are not specifically named. Then in May, the Justice Department issues findings that if a plea deal cannot be reached, Epstein can be federally prosecuted. Then in June, Epstein's lawyers revisit plea negotiations. And on June 30, 2006, Epstein appears finally in a Palm Beach County courtroom.

Starting point is 01:49:04 Please guilty to state charges. One count of solicitation of prostitution, one count of solicitation of prostitution of minor under the age of 18, sentenced to eight months in jail, asterix, followed by a year of community controller house arrest. He's adjudicated as convicted sex defender who must register twice a year in Florida. I say the asterix there because the place where he stayed is like a country club. We got to leave all the time for work. Then in July of 2008, Epstein's victims learned about his plea in state court after the fact, and they filed an emergency petition

Starting point is 01:49:34 to force federal prosecutors to comply with the Federal Crime Victims Rights Act, which was violated. This act mandates certain rights for crime victims, including the right to be informed about plea agreements and the right to appear at sentencing that did not happen. Epstein's victims learned that he has already been sent to jail in August and that the federal investigation is over. Right, there's still a thing in this guy could, you know, be sentenced or they're waiting to go to court and they're like, oh, what? It's all done.

Starting point is 01:49:58 We weren't told. They seek to have his plea agreement unsealed. Federal prosecutors argue against releasing the agreement commencing a year-long court battle to learn the terms of his plea bargain. And October of 2008, F10 begins a work release program from the county stockade. He's picked up by his private driver six days a week, transported to an office, a luxurious office in West Palm Beach, where he accepts visitors for up to 12 hours a day, and then returns to the stockade in the evenings to sleep.

Starting point is 01:50:24 Some jail sentence. and just fucking ridiculous. It's a slap in the face to those victims in July of 2009. Epstein is released from the Palm Beach County stockade five months early. Now he has to register as a sex defender in his own probation for a year, combined to his Palm Beach luxury mansion. Other than when he has to travel to his office in West Palm Beach. However, record show, he didn't even follow that. He frequently made trips to Manhattan and to his home in the US Virginie. He just did whatever he fucking wanted. In August of 2009, Palm

Starting point is 01:50:51 Beach police captain George Frick, uh, finds Epstein walking along in A1A or along A1A in the middle of the afternoon. This, this road, local road here where he's supposed to be at work at his office in downtown West Palm Beach. Epstein says he's walking to work, even though he's miles away and not on a direct route. And then his probation officer is notified and says, yeah, he can just, he's just getting some exercise. And so again, basically, other than he had to spend a couple nights in some kind of country club jail, where I'm sure he was able to customize his accommodations. I'm sure he had like the finest of pillows, the finest of mattresses, you know, he

Starting point is 01:51:23 see, he sleeps there and then just goes home with his life luxury. You know, ah, I get to fuck it. The federal non-prosicution agreement is made public in September of 2009. At least it doesn't civil lawsuit for filed by women who alleged they were molested by Epstein when they were underage. He begins the process of settling with him out of court. In November of 2009, one of Epstein's former butlers tries to sell to an undercover FBI agent a black book filled with the names of hundreds of girls and young women that Epstein's former butlers tries to sell to an undercover FBI agent a black book filled

Starting point is 01:51:45 with the names of hundreds of girls and young women that Epstein allegedly procured for sex and massages. The butler tells FBI agents he witnessed nude underage girls Epstein's pool had known that the, you know, multi-multimillionaire was having sex with them. He also said he saw pornography involving underage girls on Epstein's computers. The butler houseman Alfredo Rodriguez is later charged himself with a stretch of justice and he sends to federal prison. Fucking really?

Starting point is 01:52:10 Oh my God. He dies in 2015. The contents of the black book become public as part of several lawsuits. The book has the names, addresses, phone numbers from everyone from Courtney Love to former Israeli prime minister, a hood would Barack, to Alec Baldwin, and to be fair to those names, Epstein loved to show off, knowing famous people. Also seemed to exaggerate how well he knew those people.

Starting point is 01:52:35 So, just because you're in this book, doesn't mean you did anything, or even hung out with him even one time. He could have obtained some of these names and numbers from a publicist, managers, and that kind of thing. In April of 2010, flight logs obtained as part of a civil lawsuit against Epstein show an assortment of politicians, academics, celebrities, heads of state, world leaders flying on his jets in the early 2000s.

Starting point is 01:52:55 Among them, of course, former President Bill Clinton, former national security adviser Sandy Berger, former Colombian president, André, André Prana, lawyer, Alan Dershowitz, actors Chris Tucker, Kevin Spacey, and many, many more. In November of 2011, Epstein had to register in New York as the highest and most dangerous level of sex offender, despite efforts by him and the New York District Attorney's Office to lower that classification. A level three status means high risk

Starting point is 01:53:20 to repeat offense and a threat to public safety exists. Calling himself a celebrated philanthropist and a renowned educational investor Epstein undertakes a public relations campaign to counter all the bad press about his sexual exploits from March 2012 through December of that year. His foundation donates millions of scientific research, sponsors, global conferences on ways to achieve world peace and save the planet. He funds cancer and educational research projects around the country and in all likelihood, fuck the whole bunch of high schoolers.

Starting point is 01:53:52 January 2015, Virginia Roberts, Jew free, filed court papers in Florida claiming she was forced by Epstein to have sex with Prince Andrew, Alan Dershowitz, provided photographs of her with the Prince and with Epstein's close associate, British socialite, Golan Maxwell. She claimed Maxwell worked as Epstein's close associate, British socialite, Golan Maxwell. She claimed Maxwell worked as Epstein's madam, which Maxwell denies, Dershowitz, and the prints and I her claims as well. Of course they do. Set off a series of legal actions between Dershowitz and Robert's attorneys or a Jewelfree's

Starting point is 01:54:16 attorneys that are later resolved in an out-of-court settlement. In September of 2015, Jewelfree sued Maxwell and federal court in New York claiming that Epstein's alleged madam defamed her in public statements in the media. A lawsuit is widely viewed as a vessel for Epstein's victims to expose the scope of his crimes. Several civil lawsuits filed the same year, alleged Epstein and Maxwell operate an international sex trafficking operation. On July 6, 2019, Epstein arrested at that New Jersey airport, like we said.

Starting point is 01:54:42 Epstein pleads not guilty, and he was going to face, like I said earlier, 45 years have convicted on July 11th, more than a dozen women who, according to their attorneys, were previously unknown to law enforcement, come forward with sexual abuse accusations against Epstein, according to the Miami Herald. On July 23rd, Epstein found unresponsive in his cell with Mark's on his neck that suggested he may have attempted suicide. He's hospitalized, returned to a cell placed on suicide watch, supposed to be monitored, rumors swirled that someone or perhaps multiple people want him dead.

Starting point is 01:55:11 He supposedly can name lots of power for people. You know, it would take down a lot of his old friends with him, friends who supposedly also have been having sex with underage girls. I worry that he will not live until his trial. Many others worry about this as well. You know, we think that if he does die, it's not going to be a suicide, but it's going to be made to look like a suicide. Everybody was talking about that exact thing.

Starting point is 01:55:30 And then at 6.30 a.m. on the morning of August 10th, 2019, Epstein, despite having been placed again on suicide watch, found dead in the cell at the Metropolitan Collison Correctional Center, MCC in New York City. And autopsy is performed August 11th. No cause of death has been announced. They are claiming it is highly likely that it is a suicide. The New York City Medical Examiner's office is waiting further information. And this death in particular adds a lot of fuel to the fire of conspiracies like the

Starting point is 01:55:57 ninth circle cult because it is extremely suspicious. It also takes us out of our final time suck timeline Good job soldier. You made it back So Eftin I can see how his story could lead others to believe in something like the nine circle cult people knew He molested a wrapteens knew for at least two decades He kept getting away with it. Even when he was found guilty in court, he still got away with it. Why?

Starting point is 01:56:29 Because he was rich and influential and because he had rich and influential friends. And then a bunch of evidence comes out about him really running a pedophile ring. There's a lot of indicators that he got a more than should have been legal, favorable deal and his initial arrest. You know, who is he hiding? You know, when you hear all that, it makes you wonder what else could be going on in the world? You know, this is what we know about.

Starting point is 01:56:49 What's going on? We don't know about. Man, all this real act pedophile shit, super heavy, super sad to think about all the real acts of pedophilia far too many people have gotten away with. So before we wrap up with some final thoughts, let's take a break from real pedophile scandals and have some fun with that fake one again. By going back to the ninth circle cult, let's go go back to that well dip in there one more time with another idiots on the internet. We're gonna talk about Kevin and Net on this one.

Starting point is 01:57:21 You know, after reading about him and looking into some of his books and his beliefs, I needed to know more. I ended up watching a few Kevin and net videos. This is the mind behind the nine circle cult conspiracy. The guy who thinks that if you can figure out magic words, you're not bound by nation's laws. You know, I guess too bad. I've seen you didn't know those words. You can just fucking be like, whatever. I'm out. Just walked right out of jail. This is the man who thinks he overthrew the Canadian government, started a country no one else knows about. Kanata. On December 4, 2014, conscience media, a YouTube channel based on its content that is dedicated to not having a conscience when it comes to, you know, presenting gibberish is truth, a channel allergic to accurate media published a video called Kevin and Net talks about Saturnalia and the ninth circle cult. Now Saturnalia was an ancient Roman festival celebrated the God Saturn.

Starting point is 01:58:08 Right? Saturn in December, Saturn the God of wealth, agricultural or agriculture. My God, liberation, renewal and more. And in this video, a video that is painful to listen to. Kevin tries to tie his made up ninth circle cult back to the ancient Romans, right? Like it's just been going on since the ancient Roman days. The rich and powerful have been casually hunting and fucking kids for over 2000 years. So he presents his thoughts, which are what you imagine.

Starting point is 01:58:39 G.A. love, Bella Child buys everything Kevin is selling, even add some nonsensical facts of her own to the conspiracy writing. Here it is, 2018, when she posted, obviously, children across the US are being taken by CPS for no reason at all. Study show that 80% of CPS children are trafficked. The missing numbers for the US are 800,000 per year, where China, a much more sense population, whatever that means, has an average of 15,000,

Starting point is 01:59:09 and they still thrive on Haiti. Fucking what? First of all, why do all these people write the same way? No, right, is if they're barely literate. And then, study showed that 80% of CPS children are trafficked, what the fuck is studies? Studies that Gia took in her head and then hit in her ass. There's no study.

Starting point is 01:59:29 I can find that even comes close to stating that 80% of CPS children are, it's not gonna not. User Ray Field Weisman thinks that Kevin is doing a great job. He posts, go Kevin, you're the best smiley face. And then David Ames also thinks that Kevin is doing a great job. And David Ames seems to be Kevin is doing a great job and David Ames seems to be deliciously out of his mind.

Starting point is 01:59:49 David writes, yeah, he's also a great prime minister. We have unanimously elected him to be the new prime minister of Kanata. He's doing a bang up job. All of his girlfriends have forgiven him for all of his sins against him. He was led by Satan's trapped to date, all these girls at the same time, but he has gone on the air asking for forgiveness with tears running down his face. He has asked everyone for forgiveness. It's on YouTube, probably on his website.

Starting point is 02:00:16 He's working so hard to make everything right. What? I couldn't find that a video. It may exist. Kevin has so many videos and they're not labeled to correspond with what he talks about necessarily. How crazy is David guy? He thinks that Kevin is doing a great job running a country that's not real.

Starting point is 02:00:37 Who are these people? He thinks that Kevin has sufficiently apologized for a scandal that has rocked the fake leadership of a fake country. Holy shit, this is deep. And you know what, to be honest, it does remind me of a little scandal of my own that I've been meaning to address for quite some time. I want to speak just real quick to the constituents of the Taco Skate Republic. This is a country I created because I like tacos and I like spaghetti.

Starting point is 02:01:01 And I think Republic is a fun word. Anyway, listen, you think you're living in the United States? Wake up, sheeple. You're living in the taco skinny Republic. And right now, I need you to sit down your skinny taco and listen for a second. I want to apologize for fake execute. You my fake vice president, the fake Robert, uh, McRobert, Bobbert. I felt like I had to fake kill him when he fake asked to have some fake sushi added as

Starting point is 02:01:22 a fake official food. And I got so fake matted at bobber mick robert mick dobbert bobbert that i told him that he needed to be fake executed i was like i'm a fucking fake kill you he's like fake fake don't i like i'll fake will and then you know for you fake dare into fake suggest that fake sushi be one of the fake official food to the fake ton of scared public people uh... you know live in a world similar to the one I just threw out there, but they're not kidding.

Starting point is 02:01:48 Uh, user Valerie Jones simply posts, Kevin email me. I don't think that you post this on a video not posted on Kevin's channel. And also doesn't include her email address. I love it. Oh, Valerie, I don't think you know the internet works. I almost are doing that, but like in real life,

Starting point is 02:02:05 just yell at people and stuff. You know, just at red lights. Hey, hey, hey, you! Want you email me some time? Then just drive off. Maybe do that when I leave restaurants. Thank you, everything was great. Yeah, thanks.

Starting point is 02:02:16 You have a nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, well. Thank you very much. Email me some time. And just leave. Samantha Mason has some thoughts. She'd like to get out. I get to feeling she doesn't have a lot of room in her head for thoughts. She'd like to get out. I get to feeling she doesn't have a lot of room in her head for thoughts. She writes

Starting point is 02:02:26 John Bene Christmas Eve She was sacrificed too. These were beautiful children tortured and murdered. What are these demons living among us? Are we in hell? All caps My favorite part about that post is that it's edited. It shows it has been edited Somebody proofread that Somebody proofread John Bene about 10 spaces. X, Miseave about 10 spaces. She was sacrificed to no punctuation. These were beautiful

Starting point is 02:02:53 children, weird spaces tortured and demurtered, weird spaces, all caps. What are these demons living among us? Lots of spaces, all caps are we in hell, finally a question mark. That's edited. Somebody, there wasn't like that originally, somebody fucking tweaked it. Then kind of sat back and goes, yeah, yeah, that's it. That's the message I need to get out there. Click, send. Finally, Cindy Lewis has taken Neo's red pill.

Starting point is 02:03:19 She decided to step out of the Illuminati illusion. She's outside the matrix. She's outside the matrix that surrounds us. She doesn't like the real world that she sees now though. She writes, hi, Kevin, I can say that within the last year I have been red-pilled. I have a woken, but with mixed emotions. Thankful, all caps for individuals such as yourself,

Starting point is 02:03:40 fighting for all mankind. Anger, all caps, knowing this kind of genocides have been going on for centuries. All caps sad, this info has not been brought forward. So all caps, all people's around the world were given. The truth through news media, and not being hidden in the shadows. And then finally, ending on a all caps crescendo.

Starting point is 02:04:03 All this should be brought to light over and over until humanity wakes up. What a world. Cindy lives in. Always looking over shoulder. Always suspicious of evil, shadowy forces controlling things. Always wondering if some kid from the neighborhood, she hasn't well, has been taken by the ninth circle cult. Always wondering when she last fed her many, many semi-fairil cats.

Starting point is 02:04:26 Always checking her Etsy, shopped to see how many amethyst protection amulets she's been selling. Always frustrated. She doesn't have enough money to undergo as many psychic readings as she would prefer. Always viewing the world through her sad, paranoid, far too common based on what I see on YouTube. Wackadoodle Lens. Let's get out of here. ["It is an old be internet, internet, internet." So the ninth circle cult, obviously it's not real.

Starting point is 02:04:54 There's no even quasi-legitimate evidence supports that. No evidence to support this existence of any satanic pedophile cult ever. Ever in history. Isn't that interesting? With all the rumors that are out there, try and find one example, one credible example in the entire history of humanity. From any country, past or present, find one example of high ranking members of society, secretly worshiping the devil to, you know, to fucking torture

Starting point is 02:05:21 and sacrifice. I mean, the New York Times published an article in Halloween in 1994 stating that the National Center on Child Abuse in New Glac conducted a study because of all the satanic panic going on at that time. Conducted a study led by University of California's psychologist, Gail Goodman, which found that amongst 12,000 separate accusations of satanic ritual abuse, there was no evidence for quote, a well organized intergenerational satanic cult who sexually molested and tortured children. Although there was convincing evidence of loan perpetrators or couples who say they are involved with Satan or use the claim to

Starting point is 02:05:59 intimidate victims. Right? So couple cooks out of 12,000 claims, you know, where people probably somewhat similar, we're probably something, you know, similar to past suck subjects like Richard, the night stalker, Ramirez or David Parker, Ray, the toy box killer, you know, people who just said Satanic shit to fuck with people or who claim to be Satanic, but really just wanted to be perceived as evil, you know, they, they, they cl- like Richard Ramirez claimed to be Satanic. He was never doing in his prison cell or anywhere else, uh, any satanic rituals. He wasn't like studying the satanic Bible. He was just a guy who liked to freak Christians out. Uh, but kids really

Starting point is 02:06:35 do get less than a rape far too often. Sometimes their attackers do share them with other perpetrators or at least share their pictures with other victimizers. And sometimes other adults do help cover up those crimes against children or even worse, assist them in their quest to harm children. And those people are the people we should focus on catching and locking away forever. That's what really bothers me about like wacky those getting worked up over nonsense. I'm not bothered by them getting fired up. I'm just mad that they don't direct their outrage towards real worthy targets because there's plenty of those. Don't waste your time on nonsense like the nine circle cult or pizza gate.

Starting point is 02:07:08 Now direct that rage against real shit like the Epstein case, where in all likelihood a lot of people really did fuck a lot of kids and are really going to get away with it. These people don't need to wear robes. They don't need to drink baby's blood or being some, you know, cult to be evil. Evil doesn't have to be cartoonish and in fact, I don't think it often is. I think it usually shows up looking like your neighbor, looking like somebody hiding behind a firm handshake and a winning smile.

Starting point is 02:07:33 How did Epstein get away with what he got away with for so long? Because he didn't seem like a weird Satany dude. He seemed like a smart, fun guy who's gonna make you a lot of money. Because he was that guy. Unfortunately, he was also the guy who was gonna rape 14 year olds day after day. When looking for real monsters, don't look for cloaks and baby's blood. Don't look for, you know, dicks mounted on trophy room walls. Keep your eye on the guy across the street. Keep your eye on the dude running the youth

Starting point is 02:07:55 group or the swim team coach, your goddamn uncle. And it is mostly dudes. I know his women do it too, but that's why I'm going with the male reference there. The sad truth is that if anybody is going to hurt your kids, probably going to be somebody you know, probably going to be somebody you don't suspect. That's what the stats say. So don't be paranoid, but do be vigilant. Time now for today's top five takeaways. Time, suck, top five takeaways.

Starting point is 02:08:24 Number one, there's no Ninety Circle Cult. European Royals don't have trophy rooms full of kids. Dicks. Number two, the Ninety Circle Cult first showed up, not in some gated European forest, it showed up on the computer screen of Kevin D. Annette, the guy who invented a fake international court, the guy currently trying to run a fake North American country. Number three, not one. Not one, Satanic pedophile ring has ever actually been uncovered, ever in the history of the world.

Starting point is 02:08:51 Sometimes with a lot of smoke, there is not a fire. There is just a lot of wackadoodles, bent over, blowing smoke out of their paranoid, wackadoodleses. Number four, while the fears of parents and concerned citizens are certainly not based on nothing, sex trafficking and pito rings are all too real, the majority of sexual assaults over 90% are committed by someone the child knows, usually a family member.

Starting point is 02:09:14 Number five, new info. Despite all the scary shit we just went over today, the rate of sexual assault, the rate of rape has actually fallen from 63% since 1993. That's right. The rate of sexual assaults fallen 63% since 1993. So despite all the pito talk going on the news right now, maybe just maybe there's less kids, a lot less kids being sexually assaulted than there used to be. Let's hope that trend continues with modern crime solving techniques with more people reporting

Starting point is 02:09:42 crimes now than they did in the past because of today's technology because of more law enforcement and social service agencies and organizations being around to make it easier to report pervs. One of these organizations is rain.org R-A-I-N-N.org. They offer resources and information about sexual abuse. You can contact the National Human Trafficking Hotline toll free 1 8 8 8 3 7 3 7 8 8 8 if you suspect any human trafficking going on around you, I will put that number in the episode description 1 8 8 8 3 7 3 7 8 8 advocates are available 24 7 to take reports of potential human trafficking. So much darkness in the world, but maybe a bit less than yesterday. Hail Nimrod for that. Let's end on that note, because that's about as positive is it's

Starting point is 02:10:32 going to get with today's subject. Time suck. Top five takeaway. Ninth circle sucked. Thanks for the time, so team. Thanks to Queen of the Suck, Lindsey Cummins, high priest of the Suck, Harmony, Bella Camp, Gladys and CDA, Jesse Gardy, New Grammar, Dome, New Reverend Dr. Joe, Horse, Cock, Johnson, Paisley. Uh-huh. Gonna sell that. Bit of licks. Access to parallel. Thanks to Zach, Scriptkeeper, Flannery, all the spacesards who are, you know, who came to the time suck gathering this past Saturday. We'll be talking about efforts actually happened in my life. Next week, the first Wild West suck

Starting point is 02:11:08 we've had way too long. Jesse James and the James Younger gang. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hockho, Hockho. These band is an outlaws. We're heroes to many. They robbed banks and stage coaches and trains for two decades. And interestingly,

Starting point is 02:11:21 yeah, criminals to some heroes to many. For nearly a decade following the Civil War, the James Younger gang was among the most feared, most publicized, most wanted Confederation of Outlaws in the entire American frontier. They were gang number one for quite some time. And we're gonna suck them in particular, they're leader Jesse, one of America's most famous outlaws.

Starting point is 02:11:39 Apparently I'm related to several of their gang members. As Monkall says, apparently in the Cummins family tree, a couple of members of the James Younger gang cannot wait to get my prospect or voice back out. I'm gonna talk about a lot of things. There's some shift in and whatnot. Oh, Klondike, might as well open this. We'll find out soon.

Starting point is 02:11:56 Now let's get into some serious time sucker updates. The first a little quick non-vaccination update from Rob Scofield, who writes, you son of a bitch, you call yourself a gun guy, but you continue to call a magazine, a clip, stop it, love the suck. Thank you, Rob. Yes, I've been around guns my whole life. I only have one rifle at home right now, probably get more soon. There is a shooting range right down time. But I will try to get better. I love the enthusiasm you have gun lovers have. Now, I'm going to be a little bit more honest.

Starting point is 02:12:27 I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest.

Starting point is 02:12:38 I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest. I'm going to be a little bit more honest I'm not going to know 90% of the time. But I will try to get better.

Starting point is 02:12:46 I love the enthusiasm you, gun lovers have. Now the first of several vaccination updates, the first one comes in from Erica Case, Erica writes, master sucker, space lizard, Erica here. I just listened to your anti-backstreet episode and you didn't mention that crazy viral video about the girl who had a flu shot. Girl got a flu shot and it supposedly made her to where she could only walk backwards and made her speech completely destroyed. I hope you see this message and address this because when I was younger, that video terrified

Starting point is 02:13:15 me about flu shots. Can't wait for the upcoming cult suck level you do. Really hope you come back to Nashville soon. Keep on suck and praise Bo Jangles. Thank you, Erica. You know, I never mentioned that video because I did not know. It existed, but thanks to you, now I do know,

Starting point is 02:13:30 and now I've seen it, and seen some other videos that were taken after that video came out. Yes, the video you speak of originally aired on Inside Edition, one of the show's most popular segments, and then online, it did go viral. And the video was a young woman named Desiree Jennings. In 2019, excuse me, 2009, the 26 year old Washington Redskins cheerleader claimed

Starting point is 02:13:52 she had acquired a rare neurological disorder called dystonia from a flu shot. So the symptoms came on immediately after she got the shot. On the inside edition piece, yes, she spasms and yes, she can't speak properly unless she's walking backwards or jog piece, yes, she spasms and, and yes, she can't speak properly unless she's walking backwards or jogging. But otherwise she's, she's just twitching out. Excuse me. Can't speak. Well, after the clip you saw when viral, uh, inside edition

Starting point is 02:14:15 did secret surveillance on Desiree for, for weeks and wouldn't you know it? When she didn't know she was being filmed, walking around totally fine, totally fine, no stomach, no spasms at all, no slurred speech. She is 100% fine. And then they ambushed her TMZ style. And initially she was fine and then started to slip into the thing she claimed originally. Inside edition interviews, after they catch her, they also interview Dr. Steven Novella, the neurology professor and critical thinking expert that I've mentioned, I've mentioned

Starting point is 02:14:49 him several times when talking about the great courses plus, this guy is an expert in dystonia. And he said, on inside edition that her symptoms did not match that disease. And then when yeah, when inside edition confronted her about faking her disorder, she spoke normal for a second and then slipped into an Australian-ish accent. Even though she's from Ohio, she said that the disease, the flu shot gave her an accent now. And Dr. Novella addressed that saying,

Starting point is 02:15:15 there's no way a flu shot can cause someone's accent to change. And you can feel him holding back an eye roll when he says that, fighting the urge to say, yeah, she's full of shit. Then Desiree tried claiming that some new age healer cured her dystonia in 48 hours using completely debunked treatment techniques.

Starting point is 02:15:32 Also, an inside addition first in front of Desiree again, in the parking lot, yeah, yeah, sorry, already said that I jumped ahead of my notes. Yeah, speaking totally normal. And then when she walks away, she also walks, you know, with spasms and a limp. So clearly she faked the whole thing. Why nobody knows for sure, people are crazy. Maybe she's trying to get money. Maybe she just wanted the attention. Sorry that she made you afraid of getting a

Starting point is 02:15:53 flu shot, Desiree Wacadu. Yeah. So that whole thing that, and sadly, sometimes now people still point to that. Isn't that, again, with the kind of the lore of how things work? You know, it's like the ninth circle cult. You know, this one guy makes up something. And then people later will just point to it as like evidence, even though it's complete nonsense. Same thing with this. People will be like, yeah, what about that girl? I mean, come on. That girl right after her flu shot. She'll be spasms. You know, she can't speak right. Yes, she can. You just didn't see the second part when it was debunked. Another vaccination update from Time Sucker Mark Johnson,

Starting point is 02:16:26 Mark writes, holy fuck balls. I must throw my hat in with a suck master's or premium on vaccination debate. I really don't think people understand how real a threat this is. I'm gonna give you all a little info. I and any other veteran you might know were privy to going over Yonder to Iraq.

Starting point is 02:16:41 I have what we used to call the old folks scar. I'm a left shoulder. I'm 37. It looks like someone stuck an old car lighter to the skin. This is the smallpox vaccination. If you check grandparents, most will have it. But there's a giant gap where the vaccine was no longer needed as a suck master informed.

Starting point is 02:16:58 So why were veterans of Iraq in the 2000s given this? Apparently the terrorists had found a way to weaponize the virus. We were informed that if smallpox were to break out again on US soil, it would take a third of our population before they could get it under control. We no longer manufacture the virus in large quantities. So it is crucial we continue to vaccinate for viruses that can still pose a threat, hail Nimrod, praise both jangles, vaccinate your fucking kids. Holy shit, Mark. Yeah, thank you for that update. I had no idea that that happened. After you're up to the Google that, yeah, sure enough,

Starting point is 02:17:29 just like you said, President, George, HW Bush, made sure to inoculate US soldiers heading into Iraq with a smallpox virus because of the threat you just laid out. Yes, preventing soldiers from bringing a biological weapon back into an unvaccinated and defenseless civilian population. Another reason to vaccinate, it would be a tragedy on a scope. We have not seen in our lifetime or yeah, it would just be unprecedented in the scope of death that would occur. Thanks, that update. Thanks for your service.

Starting point is 02:17:59 Another vaccination update from Tony Lee. Tony writes, hey, Dan, hail, Nimrod. Just wanted to see if I could pick your brain a bit more about the vaccination stuff. While I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said in this most recent sucked, there is one phenomena that I would say is pretty inevitable and it makes me sick to think about.

Starting point is 02:18:15 You mentioned a few concepts like herd immunity or the idea that communism will always fail because of human corruption. And I agree with those saying as you've stated them, however, on the same tangent, and I hate how close I'm feeling to getting to being anecdotal, what about things like the Tuskegee experiments? When our own government and recent history

Starting point is 02:18:32 performed a racist experiment using syphilis, thinking of that as incident and others of that nature, how can you blindly trust the mystery juice that they shoot you up with at Walmart? I'm not arguing against vaccinations just that I'd like to be able to have more faith that I'm getting what I want from it for my child's sake, at least. In any case, pet the best boyboy bojangles for me. Rub one out for Luciferina Suck on my man. Great points, Tony. Why should we trust the government when they have for sure lied

Starting point is 02:18:58 to us in the past? Very fair. My answer would be this. The Tuskegee experiment is the exception to the rule while the US U.S. government has for sure done things to abuse the trust of its own citizens and harm its own people. As far as we know, those things are the exception to the norm, and the vast majority of medical situation doctors have done, whatever the current scientific knowledge base says is the best thing to do for our safety. So while the government might be trying to hurt us, the odds are much more in favor of them trying to help us.

Starting point is 02:19:29 And all the medical science tells us that if we don't get vaccinated and a bad disease rolls through, that we are fucked. So for me, it's about playing the odds. Is there a small chance? Something shady can be going on? Yes. But I think it's a very, very, very small chance. And I'll discuss this in a little bit more depth

Starting point is 02:19:45 and one of these next updates here. But I think, you know, if you're just gonna play the odds, much more likely that not vaccinating your kids will cause more harm than vaccinating them, which is why it makes sense to me to get vaccinated. Hail number two Tony. Now for this a great argument in favor, or some great points brought up in favor

Starting point is 02:20:04 of not getting vaccinated Or at least how we shouldn't be you know forced to be vaccinated sent in from time sucker Jesse Bogart Jesse writes Dan I want to start with this all of my kids are vaccinated also sorry for the long email However, this was a subject I struggled with a lot. I did a ton of research on the subject and came to the same conclusion that you came to but Most of your arguments suck. First, the freedom argument is a poor one. The argument that because these freedoms, or excuse me, the argument that because these other freedoms are taken from us, then you can't fight the other freedoms being reached

Starting point is 02:20:39 for is the definition of the slippery slope. Second, the idea that we should trust a doctor because of their training is historically wrong. Doctors use bleeding, leeches, lobotomies, masturbated angry women to cure hysteria. Doctors for years pushed oxycontin, actually, I don't know why I skipped that yet, it's really funny, parenthetical. This one actually works in my experience regarding the hysteria. Doctors for years pushed oxycontin because they were convinced by the pharmaceutical companies that it was safe. I think that the medical community and primarily the pharmaceutical companies have built an empire on buying legislation. For example, look up me two drugs, a way for a farmer to bypass common patent laws,

Starting point is 02:21:17 and buying medical schools and doctors through donations and incentives. Can you say that you believe that if a major pharmaceutical company knew they could be making a swimming pool full of Scrooge McDoug Gold coins, but some kids might get autism, they would pull the vaccine off the market. This in my opinion is why the anti-vax movement is taken hold because they have proven themselves to be untrustworthy. However, after a pile of research, I decided that the biggest risk of vaccination far outweighed the biggest risk of not. But I could see why someone might slide off the other side of that argument. Just some food why someone might slide off the other side of that argument.

Starting point is 02:21:46 Justin Fuford thought, thanks for the great content. Love the podcast and your standup. Keep it to great work. Jesse, I love your mind, man. I wish I would have talked to you before I did that episode because you brought up some great counterpoints to what I laid out. Is giving away freedoms a slippery slope?

Starting point is 02:22:00 Sure, it is. I'm not denying that. But as I said in the suck, I just think it's a slope that we're already on. That was my point of the analogy. Like we've already given up freedoms. Does that mean we should give up all of them? No, but it does mean they're giving up some, you know, but does it mean they're giving

Starting point is 02:22:15 up some will lead us to having all of our rights taken away? Also, no, also I don't think no. Sorry, I have to look at my nose because I want to carefully say this. Reverend Dr. Joey Horstcock Johnson told me that right before car seats became legally mandatory, there was the same pushback. Don't tell me what I can't, I can't do, you know, from freedom-loving citizens, citizens who are worried that if they, you know, let the government tell them that they had to put their kids in the car seat, what other freedoms would they lose?

Starting point is 02:22:42 But then study after study showed that, you know, car seats saved thousands of children's lives. First responders got tired of shoveling toddlers corpses off the road after minor traffic accidents. So lawmaker said, your freedom, right, can take a back seat, you know, pun intended, to safety on this one. So put your kid in the car seat in the back seat or get a ticket.

Starting point is 02:23:03 And then thousands of kids now don't die every year because of that freedom being taken away. And I'm using the same logic in favor of mandatory vaccination. And it's for your second argument and is there a history of quackery in the medical field? Yes, I've done a stand-up bit on exactly that concept, right? Whiskey, loud and bizarre. But you know, it's different now. Studies are done differently now. Studies are now done doing you in the scientific method.

Starting point is 02:23:26 That wasn't available in the whiskey, lardum, sawdates, doctors and researchers, not in the pockets of big pharma can do independent studies. They have independently verified the safety of vaccines. Also doctors in other countries, not part of our Me Too drug laws, have also verified the effectiveness and safety of vaccines. So while I see your point, I also understand it because our info can be shared across the world different than it ever could be before. It would be so much harder now for doctors to pull off, you know, push in shitty vaccines

Starting point is 02:23:55 on the public. They would have to pull it off in numerous countries. Numerous countries, doctors would have to be blind to this happening or be paid off. The scope of it, I don't think is able to work. But again, love the points you make, and that's why when it comes to vaccines and any other medical practice, I think we need to have independent watchdog organizations make sure our government and big farmer are doing what they're supposed to do. And so while I say I'm pro mandatory vaccines, I'm pro as long as it comes with strong,

Starting point is 02:24:23 independent governmental oversight. So, thank you again, Jesse. Love you calling me out. I did not do a good job of explaining how rational the concerns of anti-vaxxers are in many respects. Okay, one last one. And I'm sure I'll do more next week. So many were sent in a whole two-hour episode's worth easy.

Starting point is 02:24:40 Space lizard Adam Reach from Minnesota has an interesting perspective on all this. Adam Wrights, Hey Master Sucker, OG Space Luzard Adam from Minnesota responding to this week's suck about vaccines. I've been waiting on the suck for a while since it's a subject near and dear to my heart. I have a 10-year-old son with severe ASD, autism spectrum disorder. He's mostly nonverbal and needs constant care and supervision. He does a lot of stimming, which is short for self-simulation. It's a way for autistic people to deal with over stimulation

Starting point is 02:25:06 from the world around them or calm jittery nerves. Stimming can take on a lot of different forms, but his involves a lot of hand-flapping humming, and when he's really excited, screaming. It's pretty much non-stop all day, and he can really get on our nerves. But at the same time, it helps him, and there's not a lot we can do to stop it anyway.

Starting point is 02:25:22 Despite all of that, he's really a happy loving kid with a great sense of humor. He likes to play practical jokes and see if he can gross that as mom, which I enjoy very much. The way I see it, his AST doesn't define him and underneath it is a great kid if he takes the time to get to know him. I want everyone to know that there's an intelligent, curious and funny kid underneath the autism. He's going into fourth grade and for the most part is on the same intellectual level as this peers. Just needs a different classroom structure to help him learn. I give that background because it's made it,

Starting point is 02:25:51 I've made it a mission in my life to raise autism awareness. We don't keep him shut in at home and try to get him out to socialize and learn how to function in the world. We get a lot of different reactions out in public. AST is an invisible disorder and by that I mean it's not outwardly apparent like other disorders like Down syndrome.

Starting point is 02:26:10 People see a seemingly normal looking tenured old having a meltdown like a toddler because he doesn't handle disappointment well. I used to be bothered by people staring but now I let it ride. If someone says something I use it as an opportunity to talk to them about autism, what it is, what it's not. Most people just try to ignore him. The great ones engage him at his level and treat them like a normal kid. Then comes the ignorant shit was he vaccinated. Yes he was.

Starting point is 02:26:35 And guess what? I was. His mom was and I bet you were too. I do my best to point out that science that supports the safety of vaccines and the debunking of the link between autism and vaccines, but there are a lot of inner web experts out there that just don't want to listen to science. The fact that people trust Jenny McCarthy for medical advice more than doctors baffles me.

Starting point is 02:26:55 The other one that really gets me is the, yeah, well, autism didn't exist when I was a kid, something changed. As you pointed out in the suck, yes, it did. You just didn't see them because they usually got locked away. It makes me incredibly sad to know that if my son was born 50 years ago, he probably would have had been diagnosed with childhood schizophrenia, feeble-mindedness, sent off somewhere to be institutionalized. I had a really hard time listing to the penthurst suck.

Starting point is 02:27:20 As far as what really causes autism, you did a great job of breaking it down. Our families participated in a genetic study of autistic kids, and there are immediate families being conducted by several universities to identify the genes that affect the brain and increase risks for autism. We just got the results back last week. In the case of our son, he is caused by, or it is caused, his autism is caused by a very rare mutation of the TBR1 gene that happens sometime right around conception. Neither I nor my wife carry the same mutation nor does our neurotypical three-year-old daughter.

Starting point is 02:27:51 They're still not sure what would have caused this mutation or exactly what the implications are. I asked if we can call my son an X-Men and according to my wife I'm not funny. This gene was only recently identified there are less than 100 known cases worldwide. I'm sure there are probably a lot more. Our hope from these genetic studies is that someday there might be treatments to help him or at least to help him, or at least to help other people identify risk factors

Starting point is 02:28:13 or begin treatment sooner. In the short term, it doesn't change anything about how we care for him and love him, but it does give us peace of mind to know that it was nothing that we did. Nor does our daughter need to worry about increased genetic risk if she decides to have kids someday.

Starting point is 02:28:27 Anyway, this is turning to a long email. I have to go pull a toilet. I have to go pull a toilet to retrieve a toy. Oh, pull a toy out of a toilet that our son is flushed. It happens about every three months here. Sometimes I just have to keep reminding myself that I love that little newt. Hail Nimrod. Keep on sucking, Adam.

Starting point is 02:28:44 Thanks so much. What a great, keep on sucking, Adam. Thanks so much Adam. What a great perspective you have on all this. And the favorite point of mine that you bring up is that, you know, that you know, that your son being on the autistic spectrum is not your fault. You know that getting him back and he did not, you know, influence it in any way,

Starting point is 02:28:59 him being on the autistic spectrum at all. And how cool would you for participating in that study? I mean, hopefully with enough studies like that, science can figure out what does lead to autism. And we can put the vaccination debate to rest forever. Thank you all for taking the time to send in those messages. Hail Nimrod.

Starting point is 02:29:18 Thanks, time suckers. I need a net. We all did. That's all for today. I was sure this was going to be a short episode. I swear they can't all be this long. I do want to do some shorter ones. What the hell is wrong with me?

Starting point is 02:29:33 If you do want episodes of a more reasonable length, you should subscribe to Scared to Death. Those ones are going to clock in and around an hour. Subscribe, check out the trailer for Scared to Death, Bad Magic Productions on YouTube. If you like it, please. I only ask that you leave enough time in your life to keep on sucking. Hey, thank you for reading this. Hope you are liking things that people read. I like to go and talk to people sometimes at the library. Books are pretty fun. Sometimes I think a succulent might be better than a deciduous type plant because of the watering.

Starting point is 02:30:19 It's hard to say. Anyway, I'm hungry. See you later. Anyway, I'm hungry. See you later!

Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 153 - The Ninth Circle Cult & Jeffrey Epstein: An Exploration Into Pedophile Rings

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