Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 161 - The Source Family Cult

Episode Date: October 14, 2019

In the late 1960s, James Baker transitioned from the spiritually-minded owner of a vegetarian restaurant on Los Angele's Sunset Strip to Father Yod - the leader of a cult based on the belief that he w...as, pretty much, god-in-the-flesh. The cult was also based in a lifestyle of sex, drugs, and rock n'roll. And also vegetarianism. Bust mostly sex and rock n'roll. Roughly 150 counter-culture flower children lived together, first in LA, and then in Hawaii, giving themself super cult-y, crystally names like Moonbeam the Aquarian. And then Father Yod lost his faith and the whole cult went down in a tragic hang-gliding accident. It's a strange story and I enjoyed telling it today, on Timesuck! Check out Lynze and I's new horror podcast Scared to Death. Listen on Spotify, Stitcher, iTunes, Youtube, and more! Donating $3200 this month to the nonprofit - Holding Out Help. https://holdingouthelp.org/ Holding Out HELP provides those who come from a polygamous culture the resources needed to transition from isolation to independence! Thank you, Space Lizards! Happy Murder Tour Standup dates: (full calendar at http://dancummins.tv) October 19 Minneapolis, MN 10,000 Laughs Comedy Festival CLICK HERE for tix! October 24-26 Portland OR Helium Comedy Club CLICK HERE for tix! November 1-2 Columbus, OH Funny Bone Comedy Club CLICK HERE for tix! November 7-9 Denver, CO Comedy Works (downtown) CLICK HERE for tix! November 10 - Denver, CO LIVE TIMESUCK CLICK HERE for tix! November 21-23 Grand Rapids, MI Dr. Grins (at the B.O.B) CLICK HERE for tix! November 23 Grand Rapids, MI LIVE TIMESUCK CLICK HERE for tix! Listen to the best of my standup on Spotify! (for free!) https://spoti.fi/2Dyy41d Away Travel! For $20 off a suitcase, visit awaytravel.com/timesuck and use promo code TIMESUCK The Great Courses Plus! Get a FREE month when you sign up at TheGreatCoursesPLUS.com/TIMESUCK Watch the Suck on Youtube: https://youtu.be/cJIms3jhpeM Merch - https://badmagicmerch.com/ Want to try out Discord!?! https://discord.gg/tqzH89v Want to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever current page hasn't been put in FB Jail :) For all merch related questions: https://badmagicmerch.com/pages/contact Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcast Wanna become a Space Lizard? We're over 5000 strong! Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcast Sign up through Patreon and for $5 a month you get to listen to the Secret Suck, which will drop Thursdays at Noon, PST. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. You get to vote on two Monday topics each month via the app. And you get the download link for my new comedy album, Feel the Heat. Check the Patreon posts to find out how to download the new album and take advantage of other benefits.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The source family turned the early 1970s Hollywood sex drugs and rock and roll counterculture scene into an actual religion. And father YOD was their God. Roughly 150 of father YOD's religious followers lived communal style around the Hollywood hills, were 14 of them, were his young wives, were many others, were in his psychedelic jam band. The cults bring out of a very unlikely place, a popular vegetarian restaurant on L.A.'s sunset strip, the source restaurant. Young hippies dressed in white robes, serving salads and fresh squeezed juices to people like John Lennon, Yoko Ono, Marlon Brando, Warren Beatty, and more.
Starting point is 00:00:37 The restaurant was so popular, it was even featured in Woody Allen's classic film Any Hall, where he mockingly orders alfalfa sprouts and mashed yeast, and he's not happy about it. A few years later, the cult would sell the source restaurant and move to Hawaii to live together on a huge compound. And then the whole thing would come crashing down quite literally in a tragic, hang gliding accident. It's a crazy tale, and I can't wait to tell it today on TimeSuck. This is Michael McDonald and you're listening to TimeSuck.
Starting point is 00:01:07 You're listening to TimeSuck. TimeSuck. Happy Monday, mate sack. I'm Dan Common, sir sucks a lot. Officially, sir sucks a lot. Now, I was knighted by the principality of sealant last week. Thank you, time sucker and spacers are Jillian. And you are listening to time suck.
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Starting point is 00:03:25 hail, Nimrod. Thank you once again for the recent ratings and reviews for times that also for scared to death. Every rating and review helps us so much. Maybe not the one starts. Maybe those help a little less, but not too many of those. Thank you, Nimrod. And thank you again for spreading the suck and spreading my new STD. He cares it. And it is less than the initials are, if you'll put it, take care. Dad joke. Looking forward to seeing many of you in Detroit. Yeah, I could technically Pontiac Michigan.
Starting point is 00:03:55 My special taping this weekend, very excited for that. Nervous, nervous in a good way. To record, I think it's gonna be album, I'm a god, number eight. I don't know, at least track now. And yeah, and then that'll be a special you can watch hopefully in a few months Also the 10,000 last comedy festival mini-app was Saturday October 19th at the Parkway theater get there Take it still left for that show
Starting point is 00:04:15 Then off to helium comedy club in Portland, Oregon following week October 24 through 26 the club is a high-o-funny bone November 1st to the second and then comedy works in Denver, November 9th or 7th through the 9th and then a live time suck at the Denver comedy works on the 10th. Uh, funky new water bottle in the store today, something to put your Lemurian ormus in. You don't want your Lemurian ormus getting stale. It's a vacuum insulated clean canteen, 20 ounce positive intention, and success manifestation, hydrator. Keeps hot liquid hot for up to 20 hours, cold water cold for up to 50 hours.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And it's made out of 350% Abraham Hicks power buttons. What is that? It's hard to explain if you don't listen to the secret suck. Even if you do, it's still weird. Very coltty, just like today's show. Now let's talk about today's show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk about cults several times before here on TimeSuck. I was love it. Of course, we have. We are, we are a cult. You know,
Starting point is 00:05:11 the cult is a curious. We even have some robes now, right? Sacrifice can't be that far away. When are we getting sorts? Probably, probably not, you know, won't be too long before that as well. Oh, we've talked about the people's temple cult of Jim Jones, Marshall Appalachians, heavens gate cult, Mansons family, David Kuresh's branch to Vittians, David Berg's children of God, the order of the solar temple, Scientology, the FLDS, I'm sure another cult or two I'm forgetting right now. Now today we talk about the source family. Generally my cult explorations have focused primarily
Starting point is 00:05:41 on how terrible these cults are or were. And then once we talked about so far Of a often my opinion pretty terrible Jim Jones orchestrated the suicides and murders over 900 people Manson got several of his followers to commit murders on his behalf Martial Apple White talked almost 40 people and to kill themselves in order to board a magical spaceship flying behind a comet David Corretto is showdown with the FBI left over 80 people dead. David Berg, creep. Not only molested some of his underage followers, but he also encouraged other followers to do
Starting point is 00:06:12 the same to more children, to their own children. He also literally pimped out adult female cult members to help recruit new members, looking for Jesus. Ah, the order of the solar temple and with the suicide of dozens of members, Scientology continues to actively destroy families under their religious right to name former members, suppressive persons when they leave. People, uh, you know, current members are essentially forbidden to talk to, even when an SP, as they call it, is your mother, father, son, daughter, or sibling. The FLDS continues to sanction marriages to child brides, continues
Starting point is 00:06:45 to destroy families and followers lives and countless controlling ways. Compared to all of this, the source family, not as bad. If you had to join a cult in Southern California in the early 70s, late 60s, you could have made a lot, you know, worst choices. You know, good food, tons of drugs. All their members seem to be pretty fit and attractive. No one getting raped or sacrificed or no one getting talked into murder in anyone or talked into killing themselves comparatively.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Source family, not a terrible cult. Does that mean that I think they're leader James E. Baker, AKA father, yoad, old Jimmy B. Do I think he was some awesome dude? Some spiritual guru, benevolently dispersing helpful God knowledge to his lucky followers? No. I think James is a dude who wanted to play God and fuck a bunch of very young women, and he figured out exactly how to do just that.
Starting point is 00:07:38 He saw an opportunity to become a cult leader in the crazy spiritual scene of the 1960s and counterc culture and LA and opportunity to accomplishes worship me, my children for I am your true father goals. And he and he took that opportunity. I think father, yoad aka GMB was a manipulative ego driven meat sack who lied to and took advantage of his followers for sexual and financial gain. Do I think he was also probably a lot of fun to be around? Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably dude knew how to party. He was all about sex, drugs, rock and roll, good times. I bet it
Starting point is 00:08:08 was a blast to be around. You know, he made his followers feel great decades after his death. Some still think, you know, their years in the cult were by far the best years of their lives. A lot of these followers came from broken homes or were going through some period of personal struggle when they met father, yoad. I think the same can be said for most cults members. And then father Yoda put them on a healthy vegetarian diet. He got them doing yoga, getting stretchy, meditating. Get your breathing right. Take care of yourself. Get plenty of rest. Have fun. I mean, you know, when you look at footage of the cult members, you know, videos and pictures, they look pretty damn healthy and pretty happy. But I don't think Jimmy B was following God's will and leading them like he claimed, based
Starting point is 00:08:48 on how many young brides he took and the percentage of cult members who were hot young women, I think he was mostly following his dick's will. There's not a lot of information about this cult out there. Luckily, one of Father Yod's 14 wives filmed a lot of the cults activities when she was a member of the cult. And then years later, made a great documentary released in 2012. They became the primary source for this suck. I don't think we could have done it without that documentary.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Her name is ISIS Aquarian. And she was the official historian for the family. And the name of her documentary is simply the source family. As far as I can tell, you can either order the DVD off of a website built specifically to showcase and sell this doc, the source doc.com, or you can watch it like I did on Amazon Prime, where if you have prime streams for free, ISIS, the aquarium, birth name, Charlene Peters, recorded and photographed constantly for the entirety of her time with father, yo, until the moment of his death.
Starting point is 00:09:43 If you still want to know more about the source family when the suckers over highly recommend watching that. I ended up watching it two full times and checking out various sections of it, a third and fourth time. Provides great insight, you know, into how this cult formed, what they were about, how it ended, what, you know, former members have gone on to do with their lives.
Starting point is 00:10:01 For the most part, former members speak lovingly and the doc about their former spiritual leader. They compare father Yoda to a Jedi master with a God consciousness. Man, that must be nice. My kids don't ever say something like that about me. Lindsey doesn't. Why can't I be a Jedi with a God consciousness? Are God consciousness conscious?
Starting point is 00:10:19 Something like that. Is it because I can't consistently pronounce anything? Outside of words, you'd find a book designed for kids no older than fourth graders. Is that why? Is it because I can't consistently pronounce anything outside of words. You'd find in books designed for kids no older than fourth graders. Is that why? Is it because I'm lactose intolerant? Can godjead eyes digest cheese more easily? It's gonna be an interesting suck today.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Looking into the source family cult, really made me think about how to evaluate the overall morality of a cult or a cult leader. Like are all cults and cult leaders bad? You know, is it wrong to think that actually? Is it intellectually dismissive to think that because a bunch of people put on white robes, for example, and grow their hair out and do lots of yoga
Starting point is 00:10:51 and channel out and fuck all the time and live together in some communal compound? Is it wrong to think they're wasting their lives? What if they're happier than someone else going to the same cubicle day after day, you know, playing it safe, having two kids because they feel like they're supposed to, you know, marrying someone they don't really passionately love but stay with because they're, you know, playing it safe, having two kids because they feel like they're supposed to, you know, marrying someone they don't really passionately love but stay
Starting point is 00:11:06 with because they're, you know, the kind and stable. Someone who gets, you know, the job, stable job, you know, has the kids, the dog, the white picket fence, but deep down inside, bored out of their fucking mind. Why is a traditional life traditionally valued more? Why do many seem to think that that's better? Why is it better? Can't there be good cults? Cults where everyone leads a more fulfilling and happier lives
Starting point is 00:11:25 Then they would have if they weren't in the cult and if that's true If there's good cults and there has to be good cult leaders, right? And if that premise is true, I can ask was father Yaw are yode a good cult leader I'm probably gonna be making that mistake all the time here. He spelled his name YOD but pronounced it yode because he's a fucking asshole Let's look at some of the evidence see if uh... father yode was was good or bad for a time father yode convinced his followers possibly himself
Starting point is 00:11:50 that he was god in the flesh i that doesn't sound good that sounds well weird little narcissistic little eo maniacal but what if someone thinks that they're god but then you know uh... while thinking their god does a lot of good for the world you know does a lot of good for the people who believe that they're God. Would they then overall be good or bad?
Starting point is 00:12:10 Probably good. You know, Father Yoda took on over a dozen wives here. And a culture that does not condone a polygamy. Many seem to be under age, 16, 17 years old, probably. California Legal Age, you can sent. It's been 18 for quite some time. The exact ages of many of his spiritual wives not listed in regards to exactly how old they were when they began to have sex
Starting point is 00:12:29 with father yout. Just listed in numerous sources being underage girls quote unquote. And this one on while he was in his late 40s early 50s. So that's not a good look. That seems bad. That seems pretty bad. Pretty coolty. Pretty bad. Colty. What if they were all, okay, 18 or older, all consenting adults, all truly felt that their lives were better with father, yo, didn't it? What if those lives were better in a number of measurable ways? What if they were healthy, drug free, with positive self images, felt fulfilled and happy? Would it be okay then? What if father, yo, would let people come and go within the cult? What if he let them talk to, you know, any family members not inside the cult whenever they wanted to?
Starting point is 00:13:06 What if he didn't have members sell their stuff and give their money to the cult? Then it probably wouldn't be so bad, but then it also probably wouldn't be a cult. No, shit. I think he took away all the elements to make it cult bad. Well, this is kind of no longer a cult.
Starting point is 00:13:20 We'll have to look at exactly what constitutes a cult a little bit later. So, I guess cults probably are always least a little bit bad, which mean cult leaders are probably always just a little bit bad at least. But I don't count. Right? Come on. I mean, we call ourselves a cult of curious and you know, technically on the leader, but
Starting point is 00:13:37 it's not like we live on a compound where I tell you guys I'm God and you know, many of you have to sleep with me. We're not doing that yet. You know what I mean? We're not even doing it, right? We won't. Well, we, I don't think so. I mean, that would you know, many of you have to sleep with me. We're not doing that yet. You know what I mean? We're not even doing it, right? We won't. Will we? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I mean, that would be bad, right? We're just all living together and sharing bodies and stuff. I mean, that's, I don't think it's a good idea, you know? And, feel silly. I feel like I shouldn't have bought a bunch of acreage in Montana and kind of signed off on a construction project. Might have jumped a gun a bit on that. I'm going to talk to the realtor.
Starting point is 00:14:04 No, but seriously, while father yode is bad, he might come closest, the closest to being a good cult leader than anyone else we've looked at so far. Heaven's Gate leader, Marshall Appelwein, I have a soft spot for him. He would have been the nicest cult leader if he just wouldn't have talked everyone into killing themselves in the end. Father yode, maybe the best cult leader I've ever read about when it comes to giving his followers sweet ass nicknames. That's pretty good. That's cool. Father Yod, maybe the best co-leader I've ever read about when it comes to giving his followers sweet ass nicknames, that's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:14:28 That's cool. As far as cool nicknames for followers go, the source family was hands down the best. Everyone's last name was Aquarian. Many of their middle names were the, not kidding. Their first names were all over the place and awesome. There was of course, Icystia Aquarian, mentioned her, also Omni, the Aquarian. It was Yahua, the Aquarian. Actually, there was Yahua one, Yahua two, Yahua three. There was Zanaru, Octavius, Jin, Orbit, Electra, Ajax, Sunflower, Harvest Moon, Treehunter, Biscuit
Starting point is 00:15:00 Tits, Honey Bear, Sugar Dick, Taint War,, stink pus. And I may have made those last six up. How sad would that be? If you joined a cult, where else it had like cool cult names? Like Octavius, Harvest Moon. And then you got stuck like stink pus or tank war. Now that would be fun. I wouldn't feel like the cult leader respected me.
Starting point is 00:15:20 You know, I was like Harvest Moon. Please prepare today's meditation. We'll meet on the front lawn for tribal chanting in five minutes to prepare for the hot tub, Tantric or G this evening. Yes, Father, thank you. And you, Tantwort, please fill the hot tub with water, half stink pus, set food, drink and lube out for everyone. And then I want you to go into town and hand out cold pamphlets and do not come back before 2 a.m. I can't risk you to kill in the hot sex hot tub vibe. Other members had names that sounded like various grunts and moans like Aum, father Yod's, Yod's first wife, who was really not pleased when he took on additional wise, by the way. Yoha, father, father, yod, he actually called himself Yahuah,
Starting point is 00:16:06 as I mentioned earlier, changed it from James Baker. The most scandals name of this white bearded Gandalf, look at Motherfucker, gave to one of these trusting young folks, was when he named a just turned 16 year old girl who had been hanging around him since he was 12. He gave her the nickname of heaven, and that sounds pervy to me. Definitely wasn't a good cold air. Young girls and young women, they seem to consistently be the heaven. Most of these cult lead in dudes were seeking.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Today, in addition, digging into the source family cult, we're also going to look into the counterculture movement of the 1960s and 70s that spawned this cult and so many others. We'll revisit a few of those other cults as well, many of which we've already sucked. I'll remind you, why so many American cults came out of the other cults as well, many of which we've already sucked. I'll remind you, why so many American cults came out of the late 60s and 70s. A lot of America's youth were looking for a new kind of spirituality and mysticism at that time,
Starting point is 00:16:54 and they found it in self-proclaimed spiritual gurus like Father Yod. It's topic also gives an excuse to examine the motivations people have that have led them to join cults, and how cults provide the answers to the questions these people seek. It's going to get weird today. Check, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't want it any other way.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Cult of the Curious, meet the source family cult, Hail Nimrod. Here we go. The source family cult was the ultimate Southern California hippie sex cult. Well groomed, fashion conscious, young, pretty flowered children with sun-kissed skin, some bleach hair, seeking spiritual enlightenment. And a guy named James E. Baker, who changed his name as we said to Father Yode during his transformation from restaurant tour to a spiritual leader was more than happy to enlighten him.
Starting point is 00:17:43 So who was James Baker? Well, dig into a lot of his life in today's timeline, but a lot of info about him doesn't really fit neatly into a timeline because in true mythical cult leader spiritual guru fashion, not a lot of dates assigned to the various moments of his life. A sense of mystery surrounds him. There are just stories, you know, of things that may or may not have happened. It's roughly, you know, certain points. Some seem very plausible. others don't. Many of the stories were told by either him or his followers
Starting point is 00:18:07 who I assume mostly got their stories from him. So he's the primary source by far, you know, in regards to the story of his own life. So that's not ideal. In the documentary on Amazon about him, creativeized followers, there's a shot-sevaled newspaper clippings that seem to verify a lot of this information, but these sources are impossible to find online.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Both the Scripps Keepers Act flanner, I spent a lot of time looking everywhere we could think of, Google in every variation of key words we could think of, and nothing, nada. And I highly doubt the cold members who made the doc would give me those newspaper clippings to verify if they're legit or not, if I asked. I doubt they'd be real receptive to my intentions.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Hey, how my name's Dan Cummins, and I was hoping I could access all the articles, legal records, interviews, et cetera. You have about father, yo, doing podcasts about the man. Some of you still worship as a dude with the God consciousness and probably gonna end up shit, not in quite a bit. Mostly because of the teen fucking, you know, when he's middle age, uh, any who? What about those sources? Uh, hello? Hello? Ah, it's so weird. How they actually hung up the phone with me again. Uh,
Starting point is 00:19:10 also weird how they actually said, never called me again, again. Uh, why are these sources so hard to find? You know, I'm guessing because father Yo died in 1975 and recent public interest in his life, hasn't been quite strong enough for anyone to dedicate an enormous amount of time. To do all of the painstaking, investigative journalism digging it would take to travel to all the places he supposedly lived, verify he didn't in fact live in these places, then go to local libraries, shift to years of newspaper clippings, county records to find out if he actually killed this guy or if he did win the obscure local weightlifting
Starting point is 00:19:39 competition, et cetera. And also they might have just kind of made this shit up. There might not be original articles for some of this. You know, I don't necessarily trust these people in their presentation of him in certain ways. So keep that in mind, when I talk about him today, especially when talking about his pre-cult life, I'm relying on information that comes primarily from him.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Not a lot of sources available, ironically, for a group called the source family. If even a quarter of what is out there about this guy is true well then he was the chuck fucking north of cult leaders standing anywhere from six foot three to six foot six depending on who talks about him
Starting point is 00:20:17 with a muscular build his former followers are convinced he was a weightlifting champion expert martial artists with hands so deadly he had to register them as lethal weapons he was a ramble champion, expert martial artist with hands so deadly, he had to register them as lethal weapons. He was a Rambo-like war hero, bank robber, dude, who sometimes had to kill a fool with lethal hands. I don't know about the weightlifting champion part in the deadly hands, but based on video and pictures, he was, he was a tall mountain of the man. He didn't have broad shoulders, pecs, some guns.
Starting point is 00:20:41 He certainly had his followers convinced he was tough as shit. One of his followers, Octavius, the Aquarian, said in the documentary, he could kick anybody's ass. He was a million or multiple times. He shot airplanes out of the sky. He killed people. Okay. He also was based on numerous interviews professionally, very successful. He was the owner of several successful Los Angeles area restaurants. And those restaurants his family cult would grow This part of his life seems to be pretty well verified So he was a hardcore nature guy vegetarian as well as a student of Vedantic theology and philosophy
Starting point is 00:21:15 Baker before lead his followers was once a follower of yogi bhajan a teacher of Kundalini yoga who had you know like a number of other spiritual leaders a teacher of Kundalini Yoga who had, you know, like a number of other spiritual leaders, moved from India to Los Angeles in the late 60s, more on Baker's Guru and the overall Guru subculture of LA in the 60s and 70s a little bit later. Baker during the 1960s got very into spirituality. A lot of people were becoming very spiritual at that time, like the Beatles, tons of other bands, intellectuals, lots of celebrities, a significant portion of America's youth. Timothy Leary was teaching future leaders at Harvard to change the world and change themselves.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Turn on, tune in, drop out. James Baker, when he was 43 years old, sometime in 1965 or 1966, was completely ready to turn on tune in and drop out, and he did. According to his documentary, he made a lot of money, but he wasn't happy. And then he met an unnamed flower child and set off an entirely new life trajectory. There's an audio clip of Jim speaking in the doc about this. He says, can you imagine when Jim Baker at the age of 43 fed in love with that little hippie? And he does refer to himself in the third person like a douche as well.
Starting point is 00:22:22 19 years old. What did he do to his head? I wanted to know. That's kind of how he talks to you. What's going on with these flower children? There I was, miserable, alcoholic, lots of money, bored to death with it all. All right, well, cool. You know, some guys get it convertible or motorcycle or a mistress when they go through a midlife crisis. Jim Baker started a fucking cult. I Forgetting really into the flower child counter culture movement and following that yogi guru, Bajan for a little while. Baker becomes disenchanted with Bajan when Bajan declares that he's not God. Baker being the talented entrepreneur, cocky dude that he was, seems to have just thought,
Starting point is 00:23:01 all right, well, guess I'll become God then. 1969 after a few previous successful health restaurant ventures in the LA area, Father Yode founds the source restaurant and it does very well. Makes a lot of money, a lot of pretty young hippies start working there. People start giving up their careers and all their possessions, literally to father Yode just to work at the source restaurant, doing dishes or serving or whatever. There's some great interviews in the doc from people who approach to this and either admitted that they did in fact give up everything they had to join the cult or thought father yo was out of his fucking mind and that everyone
Starting point is 00:23:33 who did agree to give all their possessions to the cult was out of their minds as well for doing so. The source restaurant became a real Hollywood sunset boulevard kind of it spot all the popular actors and actresses and musicians and artists in the Hollywood scene were hanging out there in 69 early 70s. You can see Goldie Hahn, you know, eating a sunbeam salad with Joni Mitchell. Steve McQueen, stopping by to grab a fresh squeeze organic juice and chat with the guys from yes, Dustin Hoffman to Nero, John Lennon, everybody was juicing and salad, salad didn't
Starting point is 00:24:03 it up. It was cool, man. It was a coolist. Source restaurant, later the source family itself, espoused the philosophy that included kindness to animals, a raw vegetarian diet, cotton only clothing, and not touching any vagina a day over the age of 25. Okay, maybe not that last part, but it feels like father yode believed that last part. Father yode, interestingly, would somehow become viewed as a huge supporter and defender
Starting point is 00:24:29 and fighter for women's liberation, women's rights, while also taking 13 spiritual wives in addition to his legal wife, women need to have an unknown number of children with. I do not see me ever pulling that off with Lindsey. All right, just how do you approach that conversation? Baby, of course, I love you. In fact, hear me out.
Starting point is 00:24:48 In fact, I love you so much. I love you so well. I do such a good job of helping you feel supported and cherished, recognizing the strong independent woman that you are, that to me, it feels wrong not to make other women feel that same way. I mean, think about how many women are being mistreated by sexists, show themistic pigs who make them feel less than a man, men who subjugate and control them and set a building
Starting point is 00:25:15 up and worshiping their divine femininity. Is that what you want? Is that what you want for those women to be mistreated? Is that what you want for them? What if we could help them? What if we could show them another way? What if together we could show them love? What if you could be a living example?
Starting point is 00:25:29 What a strong, fierce, gorgeous, wise, independent woman looks like? And I could show them what a loving, supporting man looks like. Everybody wins. You get a lot of other strong women to mentor and befriend. I got a bunch of young pussy to put my dick in face and I have me, oh my heck. Where did that come from? Why men say was I
Starting point is 00:25:48 I get to help a lot of you know women Cheving to and depends. I'll show myself out Uh, actually now that I say that stuff out loud. It doesn't sound too unrated. Oh well, I get Even if Lindsey were to allow me to do that. I would actually truly never want Any other women in my life. Let alone an extra 13, holy shit. I stress out over trying to be a good partner to one other meat sack. I can't imagine trying to keep up with, you know, Baker's dozen more.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I would for sure forget at least half their birthdays. I'd be, I'd be, you know, consistently forgetting at least two of their names on a daily basis, even if I did change all of their last names to Aquarian, like a weirdo, but if father-yout pulled it off, I don't know, maybe it really was. God. In addition to having a cult, Herum, father-yout also ended up with a cult band, a sweet, sweet band. I actually had a few bands, and there were several talented musicians who would join
Starting point is 00:26:40 the group and jam at the cult compound. And apparently none of those talented musicians helped record the albums as you're going to find out here soon. Eventually, Father Yode would have a recording studio built and fill it with the top of the line gear as little compound from 1973 to 1975. Father Yode's bands, mostly known as Yahoo-A 13, would record long psychedelic jams and then press these live albums on the vinyl and then sell these records at the source restaurant. These records have not at all culty titles like The Savage Sons of Yahua to the principles for the children and their classic penetration and aquarium symphony.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And if you have one, don't sell it unless somebody's going to pay you a lot of money for it. Not kidding about that. These records are highly sought after collectors items in the world of trippy, dippy, hippie, cult music, which is a very small world thing. God. I've been treating our secret suckers to some source family cult, Iracandy, for quite a while now. I don't want to deny the rest of you.
Starting point is 00:27:38 For the rest of you, get ready. Oh, get ready to either become obsessed with your new favorite jam, ban. Step aside aside fish. Get out of here, whatever the grateful dead's called now. Or you're gonna wanna jam a letter opener into your ear hole and fucking kill yourself. Just so you'll never have to ever hear this again. This is from their classic album, Penetration, here we go. Feeling culty?
Starting point is 00:28:10 Oh nice. Sit in a circle, dudes and white robes. That's a long hair, lots of weed. It's a psychedelics. We do a meditation for several hours before this, which was really how they would roam up. And then just play this whole song for several hours in a row. Oh, look, we just found some music more annoying than air band-jowing. For those of you who hate the air band-jow, fuck, would you rather have that?
Starting point is 00:28:44 Would you, huh? It's a little better. Maybe now you appreciate a little bit more. Right now, if you're thinking, how could some dude that bad at music ever convince people he was God? Well, it was a different time. And before we dive deeper into the source cult, let's explore that time. Let's look back at the counterculture of the 1960s, early 70s in era. I often think had to have been one of the most exciting times in history to be young in single-America, especially in San Francisco or Los Angeles, right before we explore the counter culture, time for a quick word from a sponsor. Times luck is brought to you today by a way travel.
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Starting point is 00:30:45 time suck for 20 bucks off a suitcase because getting away means getting more out of every trip to come linking the episode description sponsor button link in the time suck app. Now let's talk about counterculture. Let's talk about a time when nobody had good suitcases when nobody had anything to charge. No cell phones. That's hard to imagine right now. The anti-establishment, anti-war, pro civil rights counter-culture movement spread throughout the Western world in 1960s, lasted into the mid 1970s. The movement involved large groups of dirty, filthy, hippies! Kidding about the dirty part, kind of. There's a stereotype, you know, that hippies are dirty. Based on the hippie type folks I've encountered, I will say there does tend to be a tendency. Um, to, you know, maybe not use deodorant as consistently
Starting point is 00:31:34 as as other members of non hippie cultures. Maybe not be, you know, as into hot showers or anti-bacterial, but bacterial soap, But not all hippies, you know, use massive amounts of patchouli in place of showers and so I do know that. The hippies of the 60s and 70s were predominantly extremely idealistic people in their teens and 20s. You know, those who rejected many of the status quo beliefs held by their parents and grandparents and their fellow youth who were cool not breaking away from the belief system of the generation before them. They rejected beliefs and racial segregation, women's traditional roles, faith in the US federal government, faith in factories, corporations, big business in general.
Starting point is 00:32:11 They didn't want to be company men or stay at home women. They rejected a belief in the military industrial complex. They were anti-war. They weren't worried about the Cold War spread of communism because many of them weren't necessarily ideologically opposed to communism. Some were outright in favor of it because they hated capitalism. Communism and theory, at least socialism, much better suited the communal. Let's all just chill.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Hippie lifestyle living. They expressed the rejection of society in a variety of ways. While their fathers were clean, shaved and buttoned up, clothing-wise and emotionally, hippies let their hair down in a variety of ways. They literally let their hair down, grown it out nice and long, grown out lots of facial hair as well. They also loosened up emotionally, talks about their feelings,
Starting point is 00:32:51 gotten touched with their inner selves, which made their parents sick. They rejected their parents' values, right? They projected their parents' career values. They didn't want to get a nine to five. They didn't want to grind their way to the corporate world. They didn't want to work to the factor. They want to make money as an artist. Many wanted to work to the factor. They want to make, you know, money's an artist.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Many wanted to get away from money altogether if possible. Live on communes, just barter their way through life. Now, whittle you some shit and exchange for a fucking vegetable or some fruit. They want to come home at 6 p.m. Grab a cocktail, watch the evening news. They wanted to finish having sex for the third time that day by 6. Light up another joint, maybe drive some acid, keep the TV shut the fuck off and play some tunes. Play some of those sweet sweet tunes
Starting point is 00:33:30 Yeah, maybe not those tunes maybe better tunes. They didn't want to have polite conversations about what was happening at work or in the news Be sure to avoid bringing up anything taboo don't don't want to rock the boat They want to have passionate conversations about anything and everything, especially if it was taboo. They don't want to go to church every Sunday morning, then quietly have missionary-style sex that evening in bed with the lights off. They wanted to skip church and fuck like animals in the living room with the blinds open. And I got to say, overall, it sounds like being a hippie was pretty fucking awesome. Hey, I lost a Vina.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I'm still thinking about time travel after last week. If someone can figure out how to get the impossible and get a time machine, I think I want to pop into the late 60s, early 70s, you know, just from time to time, head to SoCal. Now, fuck hiking to Europe. I want to take Lindsay on a vacation to Berkeley or the Hollywood Hills and we can fuck our way through 1967. Counterculture hippies were definitely not interested like their parents before them and doing what they were told, respecting traditional authority figures.
Starting point is 00:34:25 They didn't just respect their elders because they were older, they rebelled. They were ready to question their teachers, parents, pastors, and government. If they didn't like something, they weren't afraid to protest. The subjects of their protests covered a myriad of topics, including racial segregation, discrimination against minorities, addressing widespread poverty, environmental pollution, the war and Vietnam, and much more. They fought for the freedom of speech, the freedom of assembly, the music and art of the counterculture expressed many of these ideals. Musicians weren't just singing about innocent romantic crushes on Peggy Sue or getting whole shook up or about being a houndog or looking
Starting point is 00:34:59 for an earth angel earth angel. No, musicians were singing about hard drug abuse, the corruption of the government, war, wanton, unmarried sex, there were songs like Sam Cook's, a change is gonna come, Dylan's Masters of War, and Credence Clearwater Revivals, Fortune at Sun. God damn that's a good song man. I turn that CCR one up every time I hear it, right? Some folks bone, made to wave the flag. Oh, the red, white and blue. No. And when the band plays hail to the chief, Oh, they're pointing at you. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, me. God, that's something I can't sing for shit, but Jesus, you want to get
Starting point is 00:35:37 some that's not gives me the chills every time I fucking crank that one. Anyway, TV was changing. God was the Andy Griffith show wrapped up in 1968. Great show, but about as edgy as the softball, no one was talking about getting high or interracial relationships in Mayberry. OP wasn't struggling with his homosexuality. Aunt B wasn't hitting a joint from time to time
Starting point is 00:35:58 or dropping some LSD. But then the counterculture hit and soon shows like Andy Griffith being replaced by shows like All in the Family which debuted in early 71. Archie Bunkern is dysfunctional. Family talked about issues previously considered off limits for US network television, racism,
Starting point is 00:36:13 anti-Semitism, infidelity, homosexuality, women's liberation, rape, religion, miscarriages, abortion, the Vietnam war, on and on. The world of film was changed as well. Also in 1971, a clockwork orange was released. Stanley Kubrick's dystopian masterpiece based on Anthony Burgess's 1962 novel of the same name, a clockwork orange in place disturbing violent images, harshly comments on social, political, and economic subjects in a dystopian near future Britain. It was a film that would have been protested
Starting point is 00:36:42 a decade earlier, maybe five, six, seven years earlier, but it was nominated for several Academy Awards 1971. Sexual norms and social moors regarding sexuality, changing rapidly in the 60s and 70s as well. Here's a measurable indicator of that change. In 1960, only roughly 20 adult movie theaters existed in America. All were either in Los Angeles or New York, almost all of them in Los Angeles. By 1970, there were roughly 750 of these theaters scattered all across the nation, even in the Bible belt. You know, those involved in the counterculture movement in the 60s also became involved in a long and lengthy protest
Starting point is 00:37:16 against the Vietnam War. A growing anti-war, make love, not war, sentiment soon spread from America to Western Europe. There were hippies in Paris, London, Amsterdam, Rome, West Berlin, Mexico, city, Sydney, Australia, all over South America and elsewhere. And the Czech Republic, hippie youth were seen as unkempt and were banned for most public places. And some instances, thousands of long haired youth were arrested, you know, rounded up
Starting point is 00:37:38 forced to cut their hair. And they start growing it right back out. All over the world, people are saying, fuck the man and raging against the machine. Some of them maybe even plucking out their protests on some air banjo. Tantone, tantone, tantone, tantone, tantone, tantone, tantone, tantone, tantone, tantone, huh? Come on, that's fucking better than this. A little bit better than now.
Starting point is 00:38:03 What a crazy generation to grow up in. In Poland, nothing changed actually. Everyone there was already dirty and they didn't smell good or cut their hair. You know, everyone there already rebelled. They rebelled against everything. They were already riding when someone, you know, told them to do something decent or sensible like stop eating their own shit or stop pushing knives and light sockets. Of course I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:38:20 They didn't have light sockets. They live in caves. Love you Polish suckers. That's a trick them. They didn't have light sockets. They live in caves. I love you Polish suckers. That's a trick of them. But for real, much of the world's youth, definitely many of America's youth, radically shifting away, radically shifting away
Starting point is 00:38:32 from the values that their parents had instilled in them. Thousands and thousands of predominantly teenagers and 20 somethings, cutting their cultural anchors, cutting the chain to belief that tied them to their parents' values. That must have been incredibly liberating With this new freedom also came a lot of confusion and with confusion comes you know a lot of questioning a lot of searching for answers You know if I'm not gonna live a life of my mother and father what kind of life am I gonna live?
Starting point is 00:38:58 I'm not gonna follow their beliefs. What am I gonna believe in? And many members of the counterculture so many of them so very young focused on finding something or some one to Follow somebody different a different belief system to believe in. We humans are herd animals. And if you like me, even if you like me, and comfortable, maybe too comfortable with being alone, you know, you also still want to belong to something. You want to be a part of something, believe in something. And even if the group you want to be a part of as a group of people who hate groups, the anti-group group, you still want to at least be part of that, right? Very few people are true, her mits, choosing to live entirely alone, not interacting with the outside world in any way unless they have to for survival.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Some of these young hippies, in their quest for something or someone, you know, something new, they found exactly that and a man who became known as father Yod, a man who was their father's age, but didn't act like their father. He didn't care if they grew their hair out, his hair and facial hair had reached full wizard level for fuck's sake. He didn't care if they said fuck, he said fuck. He didn't care if they wanted to listen
Starting point is 00:39:56 to psychedelic jam band rock. No, he hoped that not only did they want to listen to, he hoped that they would play it. So he could join his sweet band. How awesome. You don't even have to be good so you could join his sweet band How awesome you don't even have to be good at music to join dad's band new dad's the best Father yo didn't want to lecture you on drug abuse He wanted to abuse drugs with you. It wasn't against protest. He wanted to protest with you
Starting point is 00:40:21 He wanted to talk about deep shit with you. He wanted to fuck the same girls You wanted to fuck or he wanted to fuck you and you love that because you probably had daddy issues and he knew that in the 1960s early 70s father yoad was far from the only American cult leader and the source family was far from the only American cult that you know that you could join the counter culture was full of father yoad so many cults and cult like communes to join before naming off some specific ones let's go over what constitute a cult, or constitutes a cult. Excuse me, how they work. What overall types of cults, you know, there were, I guess there are, and there's still cults out there. A cult is technically a group or a movement held together by a shared commitment to a charismatic leader or an ideology. It has belief system that has the answers to all of life's questions. Officers' special solution to
Starting point is 00:41:02 be gained only by following the leader's rules, requires a high level of commitment from at least some of the members. And I know that sounds a lot like a religion, but there are differences. Now, we've gone over in previous sucks. Basically, a religion has a leader who tells you to worship God, while a cult usually has a leader who is God, or who God only talks to.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Now, a religion guides you in life, a cult controls you. And if you think that those rules kind of leave the line between certain accepts and religions and certain cults, a little blurry. Well, you're right. Let's move on. Every cult needs these four things. Charismatic leader, transcendent belief system, multiple systems of control, and systems of influence.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Let's look at the first one, a charismatic leader. Somebody's gotta be the boss, especially when the droves of naive teenagers with daddy issues want their new daddy to be their god and their lover too. From David Kressch, Charles Manson to Father Yod, they all acted like father figures with hard-ons. All three were also singers and bands,
Starting point is 00:41:59 so watch out, I guess, for bearded weirdos, now with original songs. Former followers, all say these guys were extremely charismatic. They knew how to make each of their followers feel so special to have star power. The second ingredient to a functional cult is a transcendent belief system. You got to have one. In other words, you need to have a somewhat decent way of telling people what they want to hear, right?
Starting point is 00:42:20 You're not a slut backie. You don't need to learn how to discipline yourself or set goals. Just follow your own universal truth, Laura. Follow the meta essence of your quantum center, source, matter, fields to become the infinite universal love goddess head vessel. Do you've always been? And forever shall be. Also, don't worry about what any kind of judgment is out there because I'm God. You know, I'm taking I'm taking care of you. I'm taking you the rest of my followers to a special heaven design just for us Where we get to smoke weed and drop acid and just come forever That's a good sales pitch for cult recruitment. You know, that's way better than just like. Oh, I don't know
Starting point is 00:42:55 I don't know what the hell is going on. No I think we should try and be good people just try you fucking hope for the best or something people, just probably fucking hope for the best or something. Boring! Get out here with that weak ass cold pitch. Yeah, go on out get that weak ass cold pitch. Part of any good transcended belief system is mastering the art of word salad. That's important. I just feel like a high function conspiracy theorist, right? You got to fucking say a lot of things that sound meaningful even when they're not. How to do this is you want to pepper in a bunch of happy magic words. The people like and then a few real kind of sciencey words and concepts that
Starting point is 00:43:31 actually do make sense while also leaving the message just vague enough to allow your followers to interpret the message in the way most pleasing to them. Let me throw a little hypothetical cult talk scenario I whip together in about 10 seconds. So you want to know what lies in the great beyond? What does God have in store for you? Where is God? What about God's wrath and judgment?
Starting point is 00:43:55 First, do you not think it wise to worry about what your purpose is here? Before worrying about other realms and these, God is everywhere. God is in the water that exists in abundance across this world. The water that makes up 60% of your own body, the water that grows the crops, that feed you, is that not miraculous? Is that not the power of God that's shown to you so clearly? What does God have in store for you? Does God not provide water so that you can live? Do you not feel
Starting point is 00:44:25 most alive when there is joy in your heart and a light in your soul? Does God not want you to feel joy? So why do you worry about being punished for pleasure? Why would God grow angry over you following the path he has laid so clearly out before you? Does God punish the deer for playing in the meadow? God also created. Does God punish the seal for playing in the metal? God also created. Does God punish the seal for playing in the sea? God also created. Why do you worry about sexual pleasure? Does sexual pleasure
Starting point is 00:44:52 not bring you joy? Does God not give your sexual organs to you to use? Does God punish the dog for mounting more than one mate? Does God punish the lioness for sexually submitting to the lion? more than one mate, does God punish the lioness for sexually submitting to the lion? Like water, sex also abundant if you allow yourself to drink from it. So drink the water, play in the field, please the lion. And am I not God's lion? Is your father not God's lion? Why would God have made me his lion and not allowed me to be pleased by my lioness? See?
Starting point is 00:45:24 I think I just did it. I think I is, see? I think I just did it. I think I just did it. I think I just did it. I gotta hope somebody was walking by the window when I was saying all that. This fucking what? See, I took something. It made a little scientific sense.
Starting point is 00:45:35 You know, I threw in some water details. You know, we have it everywhere. It's part of us. You know, pivoted from there to being part of God's plan. Pivoted from there. That's the person fucking taking off. If you could hear that motorcycle just jet down, you might not be able to pick it up. But I'm picturing somebody just like, let's get out of here. Come on, come on Susan. That's the person fucking taking off if you could hear that motorcycle just jet down. You might not be able to pick it up,
Starting point is 00:45:45 but I'm picturing somebody just like, let's get out of here. Come on, come on Susan, let's get out of here. Something weird's going on in that building. Yeah, and then I pivot into how God wants you to fuck me. And then I also avoided answering a tough question. What happens after this? I think I did some pretty good word-saladin right there.
Starting point is 00:46:02 In the case of Father Yoad, he cobbled together his favorite parts of several religions in spiritual practices to give himself a lot good word-saladin right there. In the case of Father Yoad, he cobbled together his favorite parts of several religions in spiritual practices to give himself a lot of word-saladin ingredients to pick from when he was rambling. He used all these different kind of spiritual sources to come up with his own religious commandments. And Father Yoad published the 10 Aquarian commandments
Starting point is 00:46:20 in a pamphlet called Liberation. He likes Asian words, right? His album Penetration and his pamphlet called liberation. He likes Asian words, right? His album penetration and his pamphlet liberation. I mean, I was trying to think of some other Asian words. Here are those commandments. Number one, obey and live by the teachings of your earthly spiritual father. Nice, get right to it.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Rule number one, listen to me, motherfucker. Number two, love your earthly spiritual father more than yourself. Hmm, nice follow-ups. Number one, not to me, motherfucker. Number two, love your earthly spiritual father more than yourself. Hmm, nice follow ups. Number one, not only do you need to listen to me, your earth father, you need to love me more than you love yourself. Number three, harm not one of your body parts
Starting point is 00:46:59 either by neglect, food, drink or knife. It's a fucking weird one. Way to get weirdly specific with a knife detail. Make a, can you still shoot yourself? Did they just have like a big problem with cutters or something? That was, that was odd. Number four, allow each vibration to complete its own cycle without interference. Okay. Number five, possess nothing you do not need and share all that you have. Another good one, I, uh, I interpret that as, give me your shit. Sell your stuff, give the proceeds to me.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Number six, the man and his woman are one. Let nothing separate them. I read that as, don't fuck my wife's. Yeah, okay. They're there for God. Number seven, squander, not your creative force and lust. Come together only when the three vibrations of the physical, emotional, and mental and harmony
Starting point is 00:47:43 with spiritual love. I also read that as seriously. Don't forget my wife. They're mine, okay? Number eight, each morning join your vibrations with the ascending currents of universal life energy. Using the method your earthly spiritual father has taught you. Oh, that's one is very 70s.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Number nine, do every act energetically, intelligently, truthfully, and lovingly vague, good and vague, nice. Right? You interpret that how you want. It's just some kind of nice vague thing. Number 10, when your commandments have been mastered, leave the house of your earthly spiritual father and do the work of your heavenly father. Nice, ending. Worship God. Don't forget to do that. Just, you know, just don't do it until you've given me all your shit and love me more than yourself and obeyed me completely and given you body to me. The third ingredient to having a sweet ass cult is to have a sweet ass system of control. Cults always have some kind of system controlling their members. Mine control is the one
Starting point is 00:48:39 that people think of first. There are many ways to persuade an already very opening credulous mind, group think along with dancing, chanting, drugs help as well, matching sweaters, suits, robes help. Robes. That's when we got to start worrying. Right. We have a bunch of robes. There are systems of influence.
Starting point is 00:48:58 All right. There's that one as well. Successful cults have effective ways of influence, paranoia and supernatural threats are popular. More specifically, paranoid fears of a rapidly approaching apocalypse seem to be by far the favorite cult leader system of influence. Now let's brief look at some of the many categories of cults. Source family was a unique mixture of a few of the following different cult types.
Starting point is 00:49:19 The first subgroup is Eastern cults, which are characterized by belief in spiritual enlightenment, reincarnation, and taming the Godhead, Nirvana from cultures like India, China, Tibet, other spiritual practices of Eastern Asia, Father Yod way into this. The source found it was mostly an Eastern cult. Coming out of Hindu and Sikh guru subculture of 1960's LA, usually the leader of this kind of cult draws from and distorts an Eastern-based philosophy religion such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Sufism, sometimes members learn to disregard worldly possessions and practice a severe form of self-discipline and abstain from all forms of indulgence, which may include celibacy. Father Yodh, not into that part, not at all. Eastern practices and influence techniques include extensive meditation,
Starting point is 00:50:05 repeated mantras, altered states of consciousness, celibacy, or sexual restrictions, fasting and dietary restrictions, special dress or accoutrements, altars and induced trends through chanting, spinning, other techniques, a lot of work. A lot of work to follow those belief systems. You don't just get to show up on Sunday and then move on to your life.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Yeah, fucking spin, yeah, chant, you got wear pajamas in public, you got wear the right bracelet and shit. Next subgroup is Western religion, Colts. In the West, religious Colts marked by a belief in God or some higher being, salvation, the afterlife, sometimes combined with an apocalyptic view of human life on earth.
Starting point is 00:50:41 The leader generally reinterpret scripture usually from an Abrahamic text like the Bible, Quran, or Talmud often claims to be a prophet, if not the Messiah. Father Yod did a little bit of this as well, right? He was the prophet. He was God on earth. He was the father. Typically, these groups are strict, sometimes using physical punishments, is paddling, particularly
Starting point is 00:51:01 if children, often members are encouraged to spend great deal of time, spread in the word, practices and techniques of control, including speaking in tongues, chanting, particularly if children, often members, or encouraged spend great deal of time, spread in the word, practices and techniques of control include speaking in tongues, chanting, praying, isolation, lengthy study sessions, faith healing, self-flagulation. Many hours spent evangelizing, witnessing, or making public confessions. Father-Yo was not into any of this,
Starting point is 00:51:19 except maybe the chanting, a lot of chanting, this music. If you can hear the chanting coming through the wall of horrible, painful noise. So weird that they didn't go on some big worldwide arena tour, right? So strange that Led Zeppelin and the who didn't open up for them. Colts don't have to be religious or spiritually based.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Political racist based, terrorist cults are fueled by belief in changing society, revolution, overthrowing the perceived enemy, getting rid of evil forces. The leader in this group of cults still professes to be all-knowing and all-powerful. In many more cases, adherents may be drawn to an extreme ideology rather than a specific leader. These groups tend to operate as cells, often in secret. These groups and-or individuals often armed and engage in violent activities, including arson, kidnapping, bombing and suicide bombs. Such groups typically meet in secret
Starting point is 00:52:09 with coded language, handshakes, often ritualized practices. Members consider themselves an elite core ready to go to battle practices like like a terror cell, you know, practices and influence techniques include paramilitary training, reporting on one another, fear or struggle or criticism sessions and still paranoia, violent acts to prove loyalty, long hours of indoctrination, and forced guilt based on race, class, or religion. Source family didn't really fit into that category. Still more cult subgroups. Next pocket of the cult universe, steeped in self-help pseudoscience, psychotherapy, human
Starting point is 00:52:41 potential, and mass transformational cults. These groups are motivated by numerous beliefs that all kinds of searching equates to this goal of personal transformation and personal improvement. Just don't be a waste of atoms and electrons and quarks and shit, learn to be fixed by a quantum light source kind of thing. The leader of these sorts of groups
Starting point is 00:53:04 is self-proclaimed, on Niscient with unique insights like, you know, like a super therapist or some kind of quantum life coach. Practices and techniques include group and counter sessions intense probing into personal life and thoughts. Kind of reminds me of your life, my Scientology, you know, altered states brought about by hypnosis, other trans-induction mechanisms,
Starting point is 00:53:22 use of drugs, dream work, past life, or future life therapy, re-burning, or regression, submerging tanks, shame, intimidation, verbal abuse, humiliation, and private or group settings. I definitely think there are a few elements there in Scientology. Modern cultist leader, Till Swan, would fit largely into that category. Father Yo did not, not really. He did fit strongly into the next group, new age cults. These are kind of cults that, you know, name their members stuff like moonbeam, Olympus, and Electra, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:49 Taint Wars. Source family cult definitely had new age elements. New age cults found on belief in this, you know, you are God philosophy. This kind of cult, you get your power through internal knowledge. A lot of this comes from the desire to know the future and or, you know, find a quick fix for lifetime of bad choices. Often the leader of this comes from the desire to know the future and or you know find a quick fix for lifetime of bad choices Often the leader of this sub cult presents herself or himself as a mystic and ultra spiritual being a channeler of medium a jugular and accordion player maybe not those last two New age groups more than some other types tend to have female leaders members rely on new age paraphernalia such as crystals, very crystally, astrology, runes, chalministric devices, holistic medicine, herbs, spirit beans, tarot cards, magic cards,
Starting point is 00:54:35 you know, all that kind of stuff practices and influence, our techniques include magic tricks. Altered states, pure pressure, channeling, UFO sightings, shock redjustments, faith healing, claiming to speak through or an ascended master, as well as spiritual entities, and the like. There are also occult and satanic cults. Hm-hmm. A cult, satanic black magic cults generated through belief in supernatural powers. Sometimes, sometimes actually worship the Christian Satan for some weird reason. This satanic, very specific, small subset is always baffled me, right? This type of satanist, which is very different than mainstream satanist, by the way. We're actually gonna suck the church of Satan,
Starting point is 00:55:08 Halloween week, very soon, and learn what it actually means to be Satanic. But if you're just kind of Bible-based satanist, doesn't that mean that you read the Bible and believe it, but then pick the losing side? Right? Guaranteed lose, weird. Are you just a masochist?
Starting point is 00:55:23 Why would you do that? The leader of Satanic cults usually must profess to be evil incarnate, which is fucking hilarious to me. That's a professor's evil. I just picture this guy being questioned by members. They're just not sure if he knows if he's evil enough from time to time. Are you sure you're evil?
Starting point is 00:55:40 You're pretty nice to Ricky yesterday. I mean, you did use your Starbucks gift card to buy him a chocolate mint frappuccino. Fuck Ricky, it was a trick. He's miserable about how overrating it's right now. And I knew he's gonna push out and get a water, so I made him fatter. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, I'm evil.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Okay, I guess that's kind of evil. What about a few minutes ago when you asked Sheila Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I know how sad it would make darn hell if I fuck her. Ha ha ha ha ha, evil. Now stand still, I need to kick you in the balls for question me because I'm so evil. Thank you, leader. I knew you, Revell. Hey, Satan. Animal sacrifice, physical sexual abuse reported to be common. These groups, these cults, these cults, very rare, like extremely rare. A lot more conspiracy theory
Starting point is 00:56:47 than reality. Yeah, now two more groups of cults. First is the family cult or one on one cult. One on one are family cults are based in belief of one's partner, parent or teacher above all else, generally an intimate relationship he used to manipulate and control a partner, child, student, or plural, or children, students who believe that the dominant, this person, this mentor has special knowledge or special powers. Often there are severe and prolonged psychological, physical and sexual abuse, practices and influence techniques include pleasure, pain syndrome, promoting self-blame, excuse me, induced dependency, induced fear and insecurity, enforced isolation, battering and other violent acts, incest or deprivation.
Starting point is 00:57:26 So so much gross, you know, very, very small cult. Technically, cult in those situations, they don't have to have a name to be one, they have the same elements. Last group, subgroup is the cult of personality. Cult of personality, rooted in belief that reflects the charismatic personality interest and proclivities of the revered leader.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Such groups tend to revolve around a particular theme or interest such as martial arts. Opera dances maybe a picture of some people like fucking way too into UFC. Dance, theater, type of medicine even healing. Interesting in a podcast. He uses the word cult a lot, you know, like a cult of curious. As a kind of a cult. Let's get this one. Let's get on to the next part. So the source family combined many of these types plus so much drugs and sex.
Starting point is 00:58:11 And of course, the sweet sounds of Father Yod's experimental jam, kind of, it's just, right. Did you ever get enough? How much did you pay me to stop doing that right now? What makes people want to join a cult though? Who are these kids running from their families into the arms of spiritual drug dealer daddies? We've looked over this idea in past episodes,
Starting point is 00:58:29 but here's a little refresher. According to experts, no particular psychopathology profile is associated with cult involvement. And part because cults adjust the pitch to the personality and needs of their prospects. Although cult members appear to have somewhat higher rate of psychological distress than non-members, the majority seem to be pretty normal people.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Nevertheless, clinical experience strongly suggests that certain situational or developmental features appear to make people more receptive to join colds in moments, like a high current level of stress, dissatisfaction with their life, lack of self-confidence, desire to belong to a group, naive idealism, fulfillment, the cult provides something that they're missing, a cultural disillusionment. I have this plays into the sub-cultural of the 60s, 70s, frustrated with spiritual searching.
Starting point is 00:59:15 For decades, there have been studies about the various mental issues that cult leaders and their followers have. Most cult leaders seem to have narcissistic personality disorder. Symptoms include an excessive need for admiration, disregard for others' feelings, and inability to handle any criticism and a sense of entitlement. I think Father Yod fits all that perfectly. For the followers, most people who join a cult, you know, just going through a mental crisis, the cult seems to offer relief for fulfillment. Many ex-cult followers have issues adjusting back to society, have a number of related
Starting point is 00:59:43 mental issues. For the most part, the mental state plays an important role in people who join a cult or become a cult leader. And after watching the source family cult documentary, it is clear to me that a very specific type of person tended to fall under father yode specific spell. His page was geared to a person going through a very similar scenario, almost all of the members, you know, were young people, possibly all of them. I don't remember a single person who didn't very similar scenario. Almost all of the members, you know, were young people, possibly all of them.
Starting point is 01:00:06 I don't remember a single person who didn't fit this mold. Young person with the poor relationship with their dad, specifically with their father. They craved a strong father figure. Also, you know, someone with a poor relationship with their family overall, you know, they craved a loving family unit. The source family and father, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:24 provided them with this. He was the dad they never had. He gave them the family they didn't have. You know, he was also the dad who fucked a lot of them, which is, you know, a dad you're not supposed to be. And I'm supposed to have that dad. Now that we've investigated the baby boomers counterculture, looked into what kind of cults there are,
Starting point is 01:00:41 what kind of folks join cults. Let's look at some of the Colts people had to choose from in late 60s and 70s. Time suckers may remember the People's Temple from suck 34, right? The Jones Town Massacre. The People's Temple and the Disciples of Christ, as it was probably known,
Starting point is 01:00:55 was a religious movement found way back in 1955 by Jim Jones and Indianapolis, Indiana. But it didn't really get going until the late 60s and 70s. Jones hit Berkeley, San Francisco and LA in the mid 60s, preaching a message of socialist communal living, became a civil rights leader who stood up against a white racist government on behalf of predominantly black following who exploited sexually,
Starting point is 01:01:15 as most cult leaders do. He portrayed the American government and as capitalist desires as the enemy of African Americans and of hippies, all right? And just played directly into counter culture beliefs. And then it's called died to mass suicide that he directed by drinking poison, flavorade in South America on November 18, 1978. The next cold movement revolves around the Eastern guru.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Rajneesh Puram was an intentional spiritual community based in Wasco County, Oregon. It was briefly incorporated as a city in the 1980s, populated with Raj Nishis. Followers of the spiritual teacher, Bhagwan Sri Raj Nish, later known as Osho. At his peak, Osho, had a global membership of about 100,000 people. Great Netflix documentary series about this called Wild Wild Country, by the way,
Starting point is 01:01:58 holy shit, I thought it was well done. So many really well-produced documentaries and documentaries series out there. Man, special shout out just to documentary filmmakers in general. Appreciate what you do. This is such a golden era. It feels like for documentary filmmakers right now. This cold created a theocratic city in rural Oregon, built by the followers of Rajneesh
Starting point is 01:02:17 that at one time a thousands of residents had some fire in police department, plus restaurants, shops, 4,200 foot, air strip, on sanctioned casino, the third largest public transport system at the time in the state of Oregon, which you probably do a suck on at some point. The Raj Nishis ended up fighting the government and then they lost everything. How's that old saying go?
Starting point is 01:02:36 Fought the law and the law won. Seems to be how they ended. The children of God, another widespread cult, it's found her David Berg, creeptastic, Jesus. Told members that God was love and love was sex, so there should be no limits regardless of age or relationship with sex. Berg's cult spread and claim to have 10,000 full-time members
Starting point is 01:02:55 and 130 different communities around the world, in the 1970s. There's another cult, or this is another cult, it's already part of the suck first, episode 104 from September 10th, 2018. If you're not familiar and want to check that's, or this is another cult, it's already part of the suck first episode 104 from September 10th, 2018. If you want to, if you're not familiar and want to check that out, David Berg, I mean, that creepy as Peter Wizard makes father Yoda look like a saint. There's other cults out there, you know, that we've talked about that were around at the time, heavens gate, heavens gate was an American UFO based religious, uh, millenarian cult,
Starting point is 01:03:22 you know, uh, that kind of went all over the place, founded towards the end of the source cult, reign 1974, ended up in San Diego, California, after the source was done. They were led by Marshall, you know, uh, bug guy's apple white. And also before she died, uh, Bonnie crazy pants nails. Doe and tea. 39 members committed mass suicide and a belief that would bring them aboard an alien craft. It was passing by, you know, the earth, uh know, this craft was floating behind the hillbop comet. Most famous of all the cults, probably the Manson family.
Starting point is 01:03:52 We sucked Manson way back in episode 18 at times. I probably need to suck him again someday. Suck was comparatively pretty light on info back then. Manson family was a desert commune in Colt, formerly California in the late 60s, led by Charles Manson. They had about a hundred, you know, followers in California in late 60s, led by Charles Manson. They had about 100 followers who lived in unconventional lifestyle at the height of the Colt, a habitual use of hallucinogenic drugs,
Starting point is 01:04:10 like so many Colt leaders Manson wanted to be a rock star. Or Jesus or both. Fast forward and people famously died because this weird fucker and his weird followers. Just like Charles Manson, Father Yod really wanted to be a rock star, wanted a record deal. Show us how badass rock stars are, right? Even Colt leaders wanted to be a rock star, wanted a record deal. Show us how bad ass rock stars are, right?
Starting point is 01:04:25 Even cold leaders, wanna be rock stars. And just like Charles Manson, no record label will be given to father Yode. No record deal will be given. Man, which is crazy. I mean, how can music so undeniably good not get a record deal, not be played on radio stations ever, how could you not hear this on every station?
Starting point is 01:04:44 I did mention this is their best song, right? This is their very best song. Fucking hours of that. In addition to the cults, I just listed there are obviously tons of other cults, and none of us have ever heard of. As we'll explore in the time stock timeline, there wasn't any flavor aid suicides in the source family or orders for followers to murder anyone. Comparatively, the one who's destructive is those other cults, but as I said before, that doesn't mean that father Yoda was a good dude or they were a good cult, not for the overall health of the group.
Starting point is 01:05:12 In the end, even this cult would have guard towers, guard towers containing young untrained hippies with machine guns. Just about to get into that source family cult timeline now. First, last bit of context, let's look into what drove James Baker to become father yote. And that was his fascination with the new spiritual movement in the West, the Eastern gurus. Before we explore the East, another word from a sponsor, today's time suck is brought to you again by longtime suck supporter the great courses plus. A lot of time suckers also now using the great courses plus which makes me very happy. Have you ever heard the phrase, you don't know which don't know? Well, the
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Starting point is 01:07:05 three about gurus. In the late 60s and 70s, new streams of Hindu religious life are flowing into the US, especially into Southern California. The term guru or spiritual teacher became a household word, and following a guru was damn near as common as joining the gym as they,
Starting point is 01:07:21 as weird as that may sound. Become a Swami or a guru didn't require an academic degree or actually any book learning at all. It did only require a deep spiritual insight and insight confirmed by the authority of one's own guru. As you might imagine, some gurus little looser when it came to bestowing the title of fellow guru to their students and others.
Starting point is 01:07:39 And suddenly there were a shit ton of gurus. Also pretty easy to fake being a guru. I remember that cult talk I did earlier. I told me, you know, what? I can find nothing to think up. If you had half a brain and you could master a few yoga poses, figure out how to do some meditative breathing rituals, some chanting, memorize a lot of eastern sounding catch phrases and vague spiritual lessons, grow your hair out, grow big beard, buy a guru outfit, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:03 wear a white or an orange or purple robe or some shit, you could probably trick a bunch of white American Judeo Christian kids into thinking that you were some spiritual master. Father Yard was essentially one of these gurus. Let's take a brief look at some of the real gurus, the real leaders of Eastern spirituality out of the came to America. While Jimmy B was beginning his spiritual quest. Among the first each Eastern spiritual leaders to arrive in the US was the Marishi yogi, a student of a very hard to say school
Starting point is 01:08:31 located in Himalayas. I'll give it a shot. I wish you'd say this. The Shankarrakataya, Joshaimath, fucking ridiculous. It's so long. Shankarkaka, kaka-ra-ra, not trying to be disrespectful, it's a fucking ridiculous. It's so long. Chunka-ka-ka-ka-ra-ra! Just a kaka-ka-ra-ra! Not trying to be disrespectful, it's just a fucking ridiculous word, if you're raised in America.
Starting point is 01:08:51 They're very white parents. Marishi became the famous guru of the Beatles. Started the Students International Meditation Society, or Sims in 1965. He was the first to popularize a discipline of meditation. You called TM short for transcendental meditation Marishi also insisted that this was not Hindu It was a scientifically valid way of improving one's health sharpening one's concentration decreasing one's stress and anxiety and he was right 1975 Dr. Herbert Benson of the Harvard Medical School monitored transcendental meditation meditators Confirmed that there are physiological benefits to the hypometabolic
Starting point is 01:09:24 Metabolic state. There we go. Once it achieves when properly performing transcendental meditation, the TM movement continues today. And what it describes is a secular, and not specifically Hindu form, right? Those who practice the benefit from reduced stress, anxiety, improved sleep, greater sense of clarity, and productivity, lower blood pressure. Greater sense of calmness throughout the day, reduced cortisol, lower risk of heart attack
Starting point is 01:09:46 or stroke, improved brain function and memory. Smaller vagina, thicker necks, tiny wrists, extra toes, ability to float for small distances, opening the third eye, closing the fourth eye. I rambled at the end there, but everything before improved memory was legit. Teaching the benefits of TM. Someone like father, yo, could make you think that he's healing you or making you feel better because he was, but he could make you think it is because it's going to secret spiritual powers. He has God powers, but he didn't. He just figured out a brief correctly.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Calm his mind. Now he's passed that knowledge on to you. And act like he fucking thought of it. Another impactful early teacher, act of the same time was a guru with a name thought up by Satan himself. Swami AC, again, I wish you could see these words. They're so long, big red line. You know, even the pages that I use for notes is like, what? It isn't word.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Bakhattavanta parubhapad tatah. Okay, teacher in India had instructed him to carry the message of Krishna to the West. This is the guy who founded the Harry Christians. Those are the guys that, you know, wear orange robes, you just hang out LAX and some other airports around the country, sell weird books and subjects like yoga, meditation, elevating your consciousness, opening your third eye, alienating your friends and family, a lot of crystal talk,
Starting point is 01:11:01 how to dress like a silly asshole, and what looks like orange pajamas, how to give a proper stink-eyed, anyone you catch eating meat. Swami A.C. opened his door front temple on second avenue in LA, which was America's first Christian temple of the International Society for Krishna consciousness. It's con. The movement began known as Harry Christian because of its members annoyingly, publicly chanting the words Harry Krishna over and over for hours, which would make me want to stick my finger right in the third eye.
Starting point is 01:11:28 If you if you thought that last part was bad, check this out. This is the kind of chanting they would do. I'm not kidding for several hours in a row. Like that. Is that relaxing to you? Maybe you feel more spiritual. You feel closer to God right now? Three hours, fucking three hours in that video. Nothing but that. One dude, three hours. And then so many comments, people like, I love it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:57 We've tweaked their own. We've tweaked their own. We've tweaked their own. We've tweaked their own. We've tweaked their own. We've tweaked their own. We've tweaked their own. We've tweaked their own. We've tweaked their own. We've tweaked their own. in three hours in that video. Nothing but that. One dude, three hours. And then so many comments, people like, I love it. Okay. We've tweaked their own. Oh, no, thank you. Unlike other Eastern groups that emphasize meditation or yoga, these guys focus on emphasizing the devotional love
Starting point is 01:12:16 and service of Lord Krishna, who is a major deity in Hinduism, the God of compassion, tenderness, love, and apparently super annoying chance to go on forever. Somehow this religious sect attracted a dedicated group of young hippies. The Christian temples of the late 60s and 70s were all devotional communities in which daily round of Pujas honored Lord Krishna and his beloved Radha with incessant bells, oil lamps and flowers, a lot of work. Slot song and dance, a lot of super long and repetitive chant sessions that would have me calling the police if I lived next door to those motherfuckers.
Starting point is 01:12:46 I mean, if you're like, oh man, it doesn't feel like you're being very religiously tolerant right now. Well, I don't have to be. I, you know, I have opinions on all this stuff. I think it's weird not to share them. And also, stop kidding yourself. If you're like, oh man, I would never probably that. Okay, imagine them living next door to you. There's fucking 40 people in the backyard of the house next door all day and night
Starting point is 01:13:06 over and over How long is he snap? I would make it one day for Fox a fucking midnight I was saying the worst hair. Krista non-stop since six this one. He heard you. He already heard you Shut the fuck up Right you want to practice your beliefs or express your beliefs? My new belief is I gotta shoot fucking people to slingshot who say that word more than four times in a day, okay?
Starting point is 01:13:33 That's my religion, this is the wrist rocket. I worship the wrist rocket. Some gurus attracted people to them with their extensive knowledge of different kinds of yoga. Swami, I shatta tta-ta-ta. These words, there's no chance. I was very influential and especially Bendy yoga master. That's how you know someone's close with God by how Bendy they are.
Starting point is 01:13:54 But I mentioned I can't even touch my toes. I keep my legs straight, not even close. That's how you know I'm one of the devil's minions. Not Bendy enough. Anyway, Swami shatta-ta-ta-ta helped... I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm really not with these words, but I have no chance. There's no chance at it. Swami Satchattata helped to shape a yoga related spiritual trend in the United States, which culminated in him actually speaking of Woodstock, 1969. In addition to gurus from India, there were American
Starting point is 01:14:21 born seekers who were also becoming gurus in the 60s and 70s, names like Alan Watts and Terrence McKenna, even Timothy Larry come to mind. As does Richard Alpert, Professor of Psychology at Harvard University. Alpert found his guru during a trip to the Himalayas would afterwards transform himself into guru named Ram Das. Thank you for fucking keeping it short and sweet. Ram Das drew on both Hindu and Buddhist Dharma
Starting point is 01:14:44 to articulate a teaching of service in a growing organization called Siva, which means simply service. So basically it was starting to be cool for white dudes to be gurus. And that gave Jim Baker an in. We're almost at the timeline where we can really meet these folks.
Starting point is 01:14:59 But first let's learn a little bit about the guru that Baker liked the most. When he followed the most, Baker followed several gurus, was interested in tons of new age shit like the astrolog that Baker liked the most. When he followed the most, Baker followed several gurus, was interested in tons of new age shit, like the astrological age of Aquarius. Clearly he named everybody fucking Aquarius at the end there. At the one piece that most likely led him down the cult,
Starting point is 01:15:14 cult leader path, had to be his own spiritual teacher, Yogi by Bajjan. And before we learn a bit about Yogi by Jhan, what is the age of Aquarius? Because I've heard this my whole adult life it feels like and I've never bothered to look it up before now. In a word, a horse shit. There's a bunch of horse shit.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Seriously, it's fucking nonsense. There is no age of Aquarius. I know some of you are being like, you're irritated right now. Yes, yes there is. Yeah, okay, in a sense. But listen, assigning time units of measurement, you know, it's an imaginary, like how we choose a defined time. It's an imaginary construct. You know, planets rotate, suns burn out, tides rise and fall. But there's no real ages. It's just these terms. You know, we like to quantify times for Gresham to help give
Starting point is 01:15:56 structure to the chaos of the universe. The age of Aquarius, there's no part of me believes that the universe, or you have to believe in the universe itself having this consciousness based on how we rotate around, to me, just semantics calling it that. In my opinion, of course, there's others. Here's how it's defined on a crystalline type, somewhat academic website. An astrological age, also known as a great month,
Starting point is 01:16:18 refers to the position of the sun, from our perspective, in relation to the background star constellations at the time of the Vernal Equinox. The Vernal Equ Equinox on March 22nd, you know, sometime in that little window, between March 22nd of every year is the point at which the sun's arc across the sky shifts from the southern hemisphere to the northern hemisphere. Marking the beginning of spring in the north and autumn in the south. Currently the constellation behind the sun at the Vernil Equinox is Pisces the fish. However, this has not always been the case due to the uneven tug of the sun at the Vernil Equinox is Pisces to fish. However, this has not always been the case. Due to the uneven tug of the sun's gravity,
Starting point is 01:16:48 on the northern and southern hemispheres of our slightly pear-shaped planet, the Earth has developed a very slow, circular wobble in its axis of rotation. This wobble is known as a procession. The north and south poles move in a slow gradual circle over a period of 25,772 years. This means that in a few hundred years, Polaris will no longer be our North Pole star, as
Starting point is 01:17:08 the Northern Axis will have drifted a few degrees along the circle. This also means that the constellation behind the sun at the time of the Vernil Equinox will also change, as the plane of the equator will shift along with the Earth's axis. The next constellation after Pisces will be Aquarius, the water bearer. So we will be looking at stars from a slightly different angle. And some people think that looking at the stars from a slightly different angle will change the world immensely, and I'm clearly not one of those people. Some astrologers assert that the movement of the Vernal Equinox across this imaginary border of the celestial sphere, will somehow bring great upheaval to human society, cause the rise and fall, the civilizations, the expansion of global consciousness. It'll change family structures.
Starting point is 01:17:52 It'll usher in a new global utopia, or a fascist or William nightmare. And I think these people are fucking lunitans. But they're out there. They believe in this shit with all their hearts. And if you are someone who believes in that stuff, well, then someone like father Yod rammed on and on about the age of Aquarius. You know, that might have greatly appealed you. That might have helped him drag you into his little fuck cult. Now that I properly offended the members of several different important belief systems, let's move on to Jim Baker's main guru,
Starting point is 01:18:19 Yogi Bajon, Yogi Bajon, former customs inspector at the Delhi airport. He became both a spiritual leader to many Americans who followed his version of the ancient Sikh religion, also a highly successful entrepreneur. Yogi Bajan's full name was Harbhajan Singh Kalsa Yogi Ji. And he and I think I kind of got that right. And he introduced an ancient and arduous form of Indian yoga, Kundalini Yogi to Americans. And Kundalini Yogi is more active than the more common hotayoga and is practiced by thousands of people across america
Starting point is 01:18:49 you also introduce the seek it you know it's seek ism uh... religion to the u.s but with twisted apparently start a startled traditional indian seeks one thing yoga is a hindi practice not a sequin and seek religion opposes hindoism in many ways especially its cast system also yogi bhajan insisted his followers be vegetarians, although seeks or meat eaters, but Bajan more than retain the seek tradition of being a superb warrior. He mobilized his followers into security company called A. Cal Security that guarded federal
Starting point is 01:19:15 court houses and army bases and apparently took in more than a billion dollars one year. Do was mostly a businessman. He made a lot of money selling people, you know, philosophy and theology that he had kind of twisted from his home country, then dumped the profit, you know, of that into some business enterprises. It didn't require him to wear pajamas at the park and hum and chant with long hair to American teenagers and you know, and fucking do this.
Starting point is 01:19:36 He created a ton of yoga centers, launched a golden temple, natural foods company, a yogi herbal tea operation, soothing touch, health and beauty projects, products like line and peace natural cereals. Yogi Bajan met with two popes, two archbishop of Canterbury in the Dalai Lama. He was a big fucking deal. New Mexico is a substantial contributor to both the Democratic and Republican parties and former governor Bill Richardson, apparently ordered flags, flung at half staff in honor,
Starting point is 01:20:05 his honor when he died on October 6, 2004. And when this kickass entrepreneur and spiritual leader admitted that he was not God, Jim Baker was done with him. We mentioned that earlier. That was when Jimmy B made a conscious decision to take what he had learned and become an even more powerful leader. One of father Yod's future followers, remembers father Yod speaking of his journey to become a God man. Apparently father Yod told him it was like opening up the newspaper
Starting point is 01:20:29 to the want ads and add in there that said, man wanted to play the role of God. And I went down and got the part. I went down to the audition and they gave me the part of God. Follower continued by saying, and that's what he was devoted to do to play the role of God. And based on what I've seen about him, that seems pretty accurate by saying, and that's what he was devoted to do to play the role of God. And based on what I've seen about him, that seems pretty accurate. Okay, so that's a lot of context, but there was a lot that needed to be understood to understand how a cult like the source family could come into power. A bunch of hippie kids primarily raised in Christian authoritarian baby boomer households broke away from their Judeo Christian roots, wandered out into the world where it seemed
Starting point is 01:21:03 like everyone was trying to do something different. All kinds of new ideas floating around so many ideas. And it was cool. It was hip to pursue these ideas vigorously. Open your mind, man. Open your mind to all these new ideas, many that are hard to understand. All these young hippies had a hard time figuring out who the real spiritual teachers were and who the phones were. There were so many spiritual teachers, so many gurus and there was lots of drugs, lots of free love. Most of these kids probably just one of the drugs and the free love, you know, and putting on a cult robe
Starting point is 01:21:29 was just the quickest way to access that for some. A lot of these kids also, you know, left or been kicked out of or run away from their homes. They've been shunned by their families. They crave a new type of family. It was the perfect time for a man like father-yode to start a cult capitalizing on all of this. So he did.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Now let's check out our villain, father yo in today's time suck timeline. Shrap on those boots soldier, we're marching down a time suck timeline. July 4th 1922 father yo was born James Edward Baker Jr. at the stroke of midnight. And since Nadi Ohio, cue the spooky he was destined to become a coat leader music. James was raised alone by his mother, Korra Baker, his father was James Edward Baker Sr. James Jr. wouldn't grow up with his father around as he abandoned the family almost immediately. Man, shitty dads. Seems to be a real theme in this suck.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Stick around and don't be dick's dads. Bad shit happens when you leave or are an asshole. As a depression error kid, Jim grew up fast, made a name for himself to his size, athletic ability and passion for healthy living and nutrition. In 1936 at the age of 14, it said that James got into, you know, caring about his health after a bad case of hemorrhoids. All right, whatever, whatever works, I guess, if I can get you moving in that direction. James would be a sister to his childhood and mentored by his circuit father figure, Paul
Starting point is 01:22:51 Bragg, the founder of the Bragg company. These two would spend a great deal of time together and James would learn a lot from Paul. According to Bragg, family members, Paul was very proud of James. He was like another son to him. James excelled in sports and reported he was, he was a young weightlifting and judo champion. Some reports say that he was a national champion in judo, but we couldn't verify that. There were photos of a young teenage James Baker all muscled up and flexed and he did look pretty damn athletic.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Paul C. Bragg, known as the father of the health movement in America. He's actually credited for starting the very first health food restaurant and retail outlets in America as well as several other firsts like Bragg was the first to introduce pineapple juice and tomato juice to America as well as health food products like herbal teas, health beverages, vitamin drinks, seven grain cereals and crackers, health cosmetics, health candies, calcium, vitamins
Starting point is 01:23:37 and mineral supplements, wheat germ, digestive enzymes, you know, from papaya, herbs and kelp seasonings, amino acids, soybeans, you can still buy some of this herbs and kelp seasonings, amino acid, soybeans, you can still buy some of this shit. You can still buy brag health food products. They like brag liquid coconut aminos, all purpose season. I have no fucking idea what that is. But it's something that's real.
Starting point is 01:23:55 It's in a real bottle. I don't know what it does. Probably regrow's limbs. Probably cures like, you know, if you get like pink eye on your third eye, or if you get like third eye near-sightedness or something, probably clears that up. Baker met Paul Bragg at the Bragg health crusade in Cincinnati, Ohio when Paul was given cooking class. Many of Paul's ideas will be deeply ingrained in Baker.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Patricia Bragg, the daughter-in-law of Paul Bragg and childhood friend of James, would later say that James was a very handsome man at six foot four inches tall. He could have been a Hollywood star because he was so charming, outgoing, and the perfect host. He also went on and on during the documentary about him, like just kept talking on and on about how much women loved him. Now, she clearly had a thing for him. Isn't a surplus of information on father, yoad's childhood and upbringing, nor is there much info about his parents. 1938 or 1939 when James was 17, he supposedly graduated from Chicago's Swedish School of Massage. According to this man's legend, just after graduating, he supposedly graduated from Chicago as Swedish school of massage. According to this man's legend, just after graduating, he got his first big job at a local
Starting point is 01:24:48 factory, married the boss's daughter, woman named Margaret had a daughter named Peggy. And there was almost a zero we could find about Margaret or Peggy. Then still 17 Baker apparently lied about his age to join the Marine so we could fight in World War II. And what did Baker do during World War II? It's really hard to say. It's hard to trust the stories about James Baker or his followers. You know, the stories his followers tell about him.
Starting point is 01:25:10 It feels like a lot of myth building has gone on. Father Yield claimed to have gotten shot down or I'm sorry, father Yield claimed to have shot down a whole shitload of attacking Japanese fighters from the deck of the sinking USS Chicago in his former life at the Battle of Renelle Island. This followers recalled Bakertel and stories of himself single-handedly taking down between nine and 14 separate fighters and bombers while the ship sank. No big whoops.
Starting point is 01:25:40 This went full fucking rambo for a few minutes as a God man does when needed. And you know what, I wasn't there. And I've never served in the military. But it seems like a bunch of bullshit. It seems like a little bit of stolen valor happening right here. You know, no one saw any of the medals he would have, you know, I would think for sure of God, he did claim he got a bunch of medals. You know, no one saw a military uniform of his.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Now there's no pictures of him from the service that I could find anyway. No one ever met any of his old there's no pictures of him from the service that I could find anyway no one ever met his old war buddies nothing james later came up with a really pathetic excuse for not getting these medals i said he actually did win the medal of honor for his actions highest and most procedures personal military decoration that can be awarded to recognize us military service members who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor but he wasn't given it because he was in the brig for breaking the rules all the time. He's a bad boy.
Starting point is 01:26:28 You know, he, he fucking, he just broke out of the brig to shoot down all those fighters and bombers while the ship was sinking. Mm-hmm, sure he did. Yep, I fucking killed 35 people there today. They were trying to rob a store and then hurt some kids. I just fucking, I did it. I didn't even stop my truck.
Starting point is 01:26:45 I just pulled, I didn't even look, because I know it's dangerous not to look where you drive. So I kept looking and just by fucking sense of evil, I just, I had a machine gun, I keep on the, on the passenger seat and I just, brrrr, brrrr, brrrr, just fuckin' lit him up. Prove me wrong, you weren't there.
Starting point is 01:27:00 He was a hero and a rebel. I wonder how many teenage girls he learned in debate with that bullshit story. There's a variety of lists out there on, you know, on different websites about metal of honor winners. He's not on any of them. It's reported that father Yo would tell his over the top stories and the general attitude towards him was,
Starting point is 01:27:14 man, you couldn't make that shit up if you tried. It has to be true. Yeah, you could. Why do people say that ever? It's so fucking easy to make shit up. Have you never tried to make something? I mean, have you heard of Harry Potter? That's made up. It's so fucking easy to make shit up. Have you, have you never tried to make something? I mean, have you heard, heard a Harry Potter? That's made up.
Starting point is 01:27:27 It's not real. It's not, not, not fiction. People make up crazy shit constantly. I've made up a lot of stuff in this podcast. You know, I tell you about it afterwards. So, he still trust me, but, you know, according to the source, source cult followers and later interviews, father Yoad told him that not only was, was he marine,
Starting point is 01:27:41 but he was also an expert in martial arts. Of course he was. He probably told at least one person and he taught Bruce Lee everything he knew. He claimed to have once walked right into some marine head course and declared that he was gonna teach them. Hey guys, hold up. I'm gonna teach you how to do martial arts properly.
Starting point is 01:27:55 All right. Does that sound reasonable to you? Sound how life works? I don't think so. After the war, which he very well may have actually fought him, but I don't think he did the things he claimed. Baker returned to his home in Cincinnati, opening Jim. They quickly became popular.
Starting point is 01:28:08 People called it Baker's Jim, but it wasn't enough for him. James had bigger dreams. The problem was he had a wife and a kid standing in between him and those dreams. So he left him just like a man of God does. He would later say that God wanted him to find new children, not even kidding. Uh-huh. That sounds like God. At some point in the early 1950s, he would leave Cincinnati for California by all accounts.
Starting point is 01:28:28 This future vessel of God never visited his wife, Margaret, and their daughter, Peggy, ever again. He supposedly wrote into Hollywood on a motorcycle, quickly auditioned for the role of Tarzan in an open casting call. There is some evidence that he did do a screen test for that role, but he didn't get the part. Then during the rest of the 1950s, there isn't a lot of easily accessible information out there about Mr. Baker.
Starting point is 01:28:48 There's rumors that he did a bunch of traveling on his motorcycle or on the contrary. There's rumors that he was one of the founders of the Beaknik movement. That seems like a hyperbole in the legend again to me though. He wasn't known figure in the American counterculture scene. Baker allegedly did work as a stuntman in Hollywood, although other reports that he tried but didn't work out for him. Also said his legends that he robbed between two and 11 banks to finance his future restaurants. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Sure did. Rambo, martial arts legends, very successful bank robber. You know, I would say that he also probably told people he had a 12 inch dick, but thanks to his documentary and a lot of naked scenes with him and the other hippies. Nope. I'm going to say hard no on that. So I actually soft no. I'm going to go with a super soft no on that. During this time, he also claimed to have cured us some Moan tribal chiefs, alien, alien daughter through dietary remedies. I can yeah, sure. Why not throw that in there. More learn about this guy, the more I feel like maybe he didn't tell the truth exactly all the time.
Starting point is 01:29:43 1955 Baker would open his first health food restaurant based on the teachings of his mentor Paul Bragg called the aware in on the sunset strip, very Christyly. The same year he allegedly judo chopped a neighbor to death, right, who came at him with a knife. Well, yeah, judo chop you, found a few other sources that had this occurring in 1961 instead of 1955. This altercation supposedly had something to do with the knife-wielding neighbor's pit bull. Baker was apparently cleared and the name of self-defense and I don't buy it.
Starting point is 01:30:12 I'm buying this. If you watch his documentary, his followers all seem to buy it. Sometime in 1962, Baker opened a unique and successful sandal shop in Topanga Canyon. People loved it. As the beatenicks rolled along into the 60s, they started to dissolve into the counterculture movement as the elder statesman, Baker began hanging out with a group called the Nature Boys. They lived in a proto-hippy lifestyle, a barefoot, granola munching, and ultra natural lifestyles. This one became a vegetarian.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Another famous Nature Boy is Jack Elaine, early American fitness and health guru, big time juice guy in his later years. Jack also mentored early on by James Asmentor, that Paul Bragg fellow. Around this time, James met his second wife, Elaine, who like his previous wife was apparently born without a family or a last name that anyone gives a shit about.
Starting point is 01:30:58 Internet doesn't give a two fucks about these first two wives. James and Elaine would bond over study and they Hindu vadas together. That's cool, and that's exactly what Hindu Vedas together. That's cool. That's exactly what Lindsay and I do. That's how we bonded when we first met. Oh, Hindu Vedas, you know, that's what people do when they're worldly and cultured. I'm not familiar with the Vedas.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Around this time, Baker fell under the sway of philosophical research society founder Manley P. Hall's Ecclectic Mysticism. Hall's book, The Secret Teachings of All Ages, Sounds Terrible. It would be the future father, yodes, The Secret Teachings of All Ages, sounds terrible. It would be the future father, yodes unofficial source family teachers manual, yet another influence. Elaine and Jim would have three sons together
Starting point is 01:31:32 and just like Peggy back in Cincinnati pretty soon, they would get in the way of James's plans and he would stop giving a fuck about them. He would completely abandon his new family just like you abandoned the old family. After the success of Jim's sandal shop and his first restaurant, the aware in Baker opened another successful restaurant called the discovery in in to Penga, West of Burbank.
Starting point is 01:31:51 He would continue to forge his spiritual path. Famous guests of the discovery in including Kerry Grant, Warren Beatty, Beatty, Lucille Ball, Clint Eastwood. Well, he became more and more successful LA restaurant tour. He also got more and more bored with his marriage, right? He began drinking heavily, doing drugs like speed and LSD. He also began cheating on Elaine, and with some of his clientele, including supposedly TV actress Jean Ingram.
Starting point is 01:32:14 And then in 1963, apparently, James' affair with Ingram came to light and ended when James killed Ingram's jealous husband with fucking two joodle chops to the neck. Pah, pah. And put a bullet in his head just to be extra fucking badass. At least that's a story. Supposedly Jim initially went to jail, but was freed after three months once it was determined that he had acted once again in self-defense. And again, I do not buy it.
Starting point is 01:32:37 This is written in numerous articles about the source family, but it's the same vague details. Just repeated over and over again. I feel like one person made it up and it's got repeated by the other, you know, articles. No trial dates ever given, no exact info regarding exact charges, no date of release, no obituary mention of Gene's husband being murdered, no mention of, you know, this husband at all,
Starting point is 01:32:56 no articles about it all on any way, shape or form. There's just a few sentences about him, judal chopping and shooting this motherfucker. I do buy him leaving his second family around this time, though. Probably was God's will for him to let more kids grow up without a father. Later Baker started another restaurant, the old world restaurant in Beverly Hills and another one in Palm Springs, both of which served healthy cuisine. Both were very successful.
Starting point is 01:33:19 I did watch the interview with a guy allegedly who worked with James at the old world restaurant Beverly Hills, a guy who did not join his cult. And a guy who really didn't seem to think a lot of James, if I was full of shit, but not about owning those restaurants and not about them being very successful. And the late 1960s Jim may have gotten married again briefly. This third time to a 19 year old French hippie named Dora. Jim was in his 40s, still doing a lot of LSD, speed, boost, you know. She was smoking a ton of weed. She started emptying the money from the register at the old world restaurants whenever he felt like it. Stop helping them run the restaurants.
Starting point is 01:33:49 On one day, he emptied the registers and bought himself a purple rolls rice. Brand new for $34,000. Baker's erratic behavior prompted his fellow investors in these restaurants to cut him out of his own restaurant. Then his new wife, Dora, was inspired to get the fuck out of his life entirely. Man, I can't believe those guys had the balls to cut him out of that investment. I can't
Starting point is 01:34:08 believe he didn't judo chop those guys to death. Tuck, tuck, tuck, tuck, tuck. He's going to quick chops. Everyone's dead. I mean, did they not know who they were fucking with? I was surprised he and Rob is old restaurants burned to the ground, you know, and then slowly walk away, you know, with his hair flowing, saying something super cool like, sorry, fellas, just needed to cook up one last meal. And I like my old restaurants, like I like my steaks, burnt to the fucking ground. You know, like in his Bentley, whatever, it's fucking, oh god. April 1st 1969 Baker opens his next restaurant, the source restaurant.
Starting point is 01:34:41 On LA Sunset Strip has a book and record store attached to it Kind of a weird date open restaurant April fools motherfuckers. I'm back. Oh wait damn it. No, I really I am I am back It really is a thing for real. I should open on it on March 31st. Maybe April 2nd The logo for the new restaurant was the Masonic symbol of the pyramid With the whole you know all seen I floating above it to symbol in the back of the, but in full color, which of course has led to various conspiracy theorists becoming convinced that the source family cult was created by and for the illuminati. This is about the time Baker also became a devotee of a Kundalini master yogi bhajan. 1969 Jim also began pursuing another 19 year old a girl named Robin Popper who danced at the whiskey go-go party with the self-reclamed son of Alistair Crowley Graham Bond and his girlfriend Diane Stewart She reported that she initially refused, you know, you know, put off Jim's advances to woo her and as she should have He was 47 28 years older than her
Starting point is 01:35:39 comparatively she was just a kid. They would like to be young. God wanted him to have some some young ladies On the night of August 9th 1969 Jim spotted Robin hitchhiking Judas to Kid, they would like to be young. God wanted him to have some young ladies. On the night of August 9th, 1969, Jim spotted Robin Hitchhiker to her eight and a half months pregnant friend Sharon Tateshouse invited her once more to come with him to one of Yogi by Johns, Yogi classes. I'm sure you probably remember Sharon Tate
Starting point is 01:35:58 is one of the famous murder victims of the infamous Manson family. Robin reluctantly accepted his invitation, got in the car, got in the car, excuse me, two stayed up all night talking about spirituality and getting to know each other. And then the next morning, Robin learned the shocking news of Sharon Tate's grizzly murder at the hands of Manson family and took that as a sign to follow a new path with Jim Baker, how fucking nuts is that?
Starting point is 01:36:19 Her friend gets murdered by members of one cult, and that incident sends her literally into the arms of one cult. And that incident sends her literally into the arms of another cult leader. Part incredible coincidence, also part indication of how many cults there were hanging around LA at the time. And May of 1970 James Baker and Robin Popper were married, part of what drew her GM besides her, seen him as a prophet and her knight in shining armor for saving her for being murdered by the Manson family was that she'd always been unhealthy, sickly actually. And at one point it almost died. Then Baker's healthy lifestyle and diet changed the way she felt and indeed made her feel
Starting point is 01:36:50 a lot better. Robin would go on to become the mother of the family. A huge believer in supportive or new husband's work when he decided to walk to Guru Path a little bit later, she wrote chalkboard signs announcing his first meditation class, spread the word about his spiritual gifts. As far as Robin was concerned, she was living proof that her husband's teachings worked. Initially, these teachings were based on the ideas of Bakers, spiritual mentor, Yogi Bajan.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Like so many of these self-proclaimed spiritual teachers seem to do, Baker began channeling new ideas from the spiritual universe, which really were just variations on old ideas about their forever. He used mix and mash them together, and then claim these ideas were the word of God. Baker, you know, really began to kind of hone his guru look around this time. His flowing robes and his white beard, he had his big ass cane like a shepherd's cane and sandals made him look at a fucking weird hippie wizard. I'm watching footage of this motherfucker strutting around L.A. in his flowing biblical shepherd
Starting point is 01:37:43 type outfits holding that big ass cane It's even taller than he is big bushy Gandalf beard. It's so over the top If a dude looking like him tried to date my daughter When she's 19 she's like I would fucking run his wizard ass over The more I get to know this guy. I don't care for him March 1971 Jim Baker decides that it is his destiny to become a spiritual leader. This epiphany comes to him in the wake of a disastrous 90-day trip to India with 83 other yoga students and yogi bajan whose contemplated personal quest to acquire a yogi lineage devolved into a series of dodgy schemes involving the students as
Starting point is 01:38:19 unwitting accomplices cast a shadow on Jim's one-time spiritual father. Jim decided he was a guru now. accomplices cast a shadow on Jim's one time spiritual father. Jim decided he was a guru now. He wrote a book his father, yod called liberation, the tetragamation or the tetragamitons is fucking some made up word. The ancient and sacred name of God together with his young wife, Robin. They created those 10 commandments for Aquarian age I shared earlier. Commandments that he cherry picked from the teachings of Yogi Bajan and other spiritual leaders. According to Robin, they intentionally chose their favorite parts from a variety of teachings from Egyptians, Native Americans, even including some teachings from the Atlanteans. That's fun.
Starting point is 01:38:50 It took some lessons from people who lived on Atlantis, even though those motherfuckers never existed. And every lesson supposedly attributed to them is complete nonsense. How very progressive and open-minded and new agey. Jim's first meditation class was a success. He soon began calling himself Father Yod. His Sunday meditation classes, that's a weird thing to do. I'm Father Yod now. The, you know, he started growing these classes to go along with his commandments, the source, family, religion, also practice astrology, that whole age of Aquarius shit. They studied occultism, dabbled in a little Allister Crowley sex magic, Crowley got sucked,
Starting point is 01:39:22 you know, back in March 2018. if you want to check that out, if you haven't before, bonus episode 18. They took from various self-help teachings, teachings from Kundalini Yoga, and the Essenes and ancient Jewish practice. They also practiced some Atlantean, kind of woo-woo, fucking weird nonsense, some free love, some no-coming tantraism,
Starting point is 01:39:41 kind of mysticism sexually. They got into weird, hippie, hippie vegetarianism. They would believe shit that like 50 minutes after you cut into an apple, you might as well not eat it because the apples nutritional life forces had left its apple body. Elements of free masonry showed up in their teachings. They studied another Jewish practice called the Kabbalah. And then in March 1972, the family really exploded into a full-fledged cult. A lot of young, beautiful people have been flocking to the source restaurant,
Starting point is 01:40:07 Father Yoid's meditation classes. He had given many of them jobs at the restaurant. Part of the allure of the source was the beautiful people serving and cleaning there. He knew these people. He knew he convinced them. He convinced them to go full cult. Many of them were living in their vans in the source parking lot. One day, Father Yoid declared they should pool their money together and live in a giant house. And so that's what they did. One roughly 50-year-old white linen wearer and profit staff hold and bearded wizard motherfucker and a whole bunch of kids, most of whom were between 15 and 20 years old. And March 1972, the source family moves into a 15 room, it's called the Chandler mansion in
Starting point is 01:40:41 Los Files, California. The home was formally owned by the founder of the LA Times Located close enough to the source restaurant that the staff slash family could easily commute by vehicle or by foot And it became known as the mother house mother we have a house Like a dude I want and their neighbors loved them. JK their neighbors hated them They were not super stoked about having over a hundred half naked hippies They're not super stoked about having over a hundred half naked hippies running around doing yoga and chant loudly around the fucking clock, right? Because who would want to live by that? Nobody. Oh, the owners of the home would not renew the family's lease at the end of the year. They'd only be there for a year, but it was a big year for the family.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Good year. During this year, Jim still lived with his young wife Robin initially, who's now calling herself, Aum, and the loft above the restaurant. But then after realizing the control he had over these kids, living in the Chandler mansion, Jim moved in, father, yod, moved in, adopted the tried and true method of any megalomaniac occult leader. He instructed his family members to hand over all personal belongings to cut ties with any flesh family, quote unquote, who would not join them.
Starting point is 01:41:50 Cult, cult, cult, cult. He goes fully to the dark side now. This of course did not sit well. I was many of the parents of young source family members who sent police over on numerous occasions to follow up on statutory rape allegations, you know, which were happening. Father Yeild responded to the charges by ordering all of the underage girls to get married occasions to follow up on statutory rape allegations, you know, which were happening. Father Yode responded to charges by ordering all of the underage girls to get married, because this could get around that law.
Starting point is 01:42:10 They were married. They could be a little bit younger. You know, they had to get married if they wanted to keep living at the mother house. So he assigned them into various parents. Attendants continued to soar initially with his father Yode's meditation classes going on soon Baker and his growing group of followers or now I'll address them, the white shepherd type cotton robes and turbans, following a rigorous program of random spiritual practices that these morning rituals called the spiritual boot camp.
Starting point is 01:42:34 These boot camps included elaborate breathing techniques, beginning with a single six second bong hit of the sacred herb at 3 a.m. Very specific. marijuana was father, a yod sacred herb. Even though hem. Very specific. Marijuana was father, y'all, a yod sacred herb. Even though he would say it wasn't, he would say, quote, this is not pot. This is the sacred herb. Man misuses it today. When it's used to serve the animal, ballons better,
Starting point is 01:42:59 eating is better. Music is better. Everything is better. Use it to serve the God. An insight will come to you for you or nothing but a channel. An instrument for the divine purpose of God. And yes, he did say ballin. And by ballin, he meant having sex. Seriously, that's what you call it. The various speeches on the documentaries.
Starting point is 01:43:19 Ballin. I'm glad I'm weirdo. The spiritual boot camps also include the cold showers, which morphed into getting into their cold pool together in white robes plus more yoga and chanting. They would also do pushups, pull-ups, and other calisthenics together. Can't have everyone in the family get soft?
Starting point is 01:43:34 Gotta be young, fit, hot and weird. If you wanna keep recruiting new members, more additions to the revolving faith, including getting rid of Western medicine, and really anything based in modern medical science, which would really come back to kind of bite old Jimmy B. And the butt later. And they stopped having babies at the hospital
Starting point is 01:43:49 this time, only natural home births from then on. I'd be willing to bet they weren't too keen on vaccinations either. There was also a magical visualization rituals. Started doing like staring at the moon until the moon becomes blurry. And when that happens, you can see it when you close your eyes. And father Yod would do that and those who did it with him
Starting point is 01:44:07 would convince themselves that they had now all entered the halls of a Monty, a mystical place that resides in the center of the earth. A lot of us followers said that they went to the halls of Monty with Father Yod during these rituals. Others would admit that they never did that. Who knew? It was so easy to journey to the center of the earth.
Starting point is 01:44:24 I had no idea. You said, a stare at the moon until your eyes got blurry. Wake up scientists. Throw away your stupid machines. Wipe all those fucking dumb equations off your chalkboards. Throw away the chalk. Get to moon, staring. That's how you get places. At some point during the Chandler mansion stay around a hundred of father-yotes, marched down and massed to the social security office and changed their first names to hippie monikers, given to them by their new father. They all took the surname of Aquarian.
Starting point is 01:44:51 Many also took the middle name of the, not kidding. Now they got names like Octavius, Octavius the Aquarian. Some other names I forgot to mention earlier were goddess, rain, Olympus, Ajax, Galaxy, Mountain, Grape Soda, Doorhenge. I rebuke you, plaque, Jupiter, Joe Equestrian, Wayne Johnson, Mother, Limp Shame Cock, two little two little pooty, Huangibongi, Ufta, Ufta 2, Ufta 3, and Shobis. Some of those were real, some weren't. Some of the members of the family
Starting point is 01:45:26 agreed in recent interviews that these initial years were some of the best years of their lives. Of course they were. At this point, being in the cults, I'd go to college. But it's only one class and super easy, and the professor gets high with you and encourages you to fuck out the classmates. Also, these cult members were eating healthy, high quality food,
Starting point is 01:45:39 driving around a role's voice, living in an LA mansion, a neighborhood full of mansions, living the dream. Life is good. At this time, the source family was one of the most high-profile and unusual of the many new religious movements proliferating in LA at the time, they, uh, sorry, he said the time, they became the it cult to be in, right? And suddenly scoring membership got harder.
Starting point is 01:45:59 Potential members now had to undergo a period of sexual absence. Probably make sure they didn't have any STDs. Across examination as well as surrender, all their material possessions to the group, they also had to wash dishes or do other menial labor work at the source restaurant, take a vow of confidentiality in order to partake in the spiritual teachings. And I'm sure if there were female,
Starting point is 01:46:17 father, yoad had to look them over, makes sure they were fuckable. Right, if they were male, he had to look them over, make sure they weren't gonna get cause trouble or cock block him, right? No alphas, hey guys, not except anymore alphas. Just accepting beta males this time. An important source family bond and experience slash event
Starting point is 01:46:31 interpreted by the fam as a miracle happened on April 7th, 1972. It was caught on film and an edited portion appears in that 2012 documentary by Icyc the Aquarian, I watched, again called the source family. Could have been staged, but here's the story. Two members of the family, a guy, father, yoad named Sunflower, and then heaven, who were mentioned earlier, were married as part of the effort
Starting point is 01:46:53 to dodge the statutory rape allegations. And then at age 16, heaven had become pregnant. And on the day in April, she gave birth to a stillborn child with several family members around her. The ambiblical cord had wrapped around the baby's neck. Images from that moment are of women crying, including heaven, and then father, yod, in true hero fashion grabs the baby, drops to his knees, prays allowed to God. He says, God, if you let this child live, I will never do anything but speak the word
Starting point is 01:47:18 of God as long as I live. Then he took a deep breath and just blew into the motionless child's mouth, blew some god breath in there. And according to witnesses within five seconds, the baby came back to life. And did that happen? Maybe. And maybe it just was going to happen, you know, regardless of that little speech or not. Maybe he didn't even give that speech.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Right? The video is edited. You don't hear that part of the speech. You do see the baby come out to mom and it kind of cuts to, you know, not after a lot breathing for a second. You know, cuts the baby being alive. You don't see the part where he's breathing the magic life or magic, you know, not after a lot. Breathe in for a second, you know, cuts the baby being alive. You don't see the part where he's breathing the magic life or magic, you know, breath back in the baby.
Starting point is 01:47:50 A few of these people, you know, there, obviously they did claim to see it happen. But these are the same people who would also say self like they had seen him shoot lightning out of his wizardy ears, not kidding. So I don't trust them as witnesses. You know, they also claim to have been essentially mentally teleported by father Yoda from the sunset strip to some other world. They also claim to see vampires walk down the stairs after meditation rituals. Not, that is a random thing.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Vampires, they would see. So, you know, I don't think they're the best witnesses. Real or not, this childbirth incident, or at least this story cemented the idea for many of his followers that father Yoda was indeed a holy man. But then a short time later, father Yoda did somethinged the idea for many of his followers that father Yod was indeed a holy man. But then a short time later, father Yod did something that would cause a lot of his followers to leave, a lot of followers who stayed, lost a lot of respect for him. Being surrounded by all these beautiful young women, father Yod's horny old man eyes wanted his body to do more than look at all these girls around him, all these girls who worshiped
Starting point is 01:48:39 him, girls like 19 year old, a 19 year old named Susan who he'd renamed Makla. So, Father Yod decided that God wanted him to have a bunch more wives. And almost always goes here, doesn't it, with cults? Amazing how many cult leaders eventually take multiple wives. The real cult leader is the ween. Ween's both clean and dirty, but probably mostly filthy dirty have been in charge of a lot of cults. And Makushla would become one of his wives, creepily enough, at less than half his age. She's the one that he would consider and treat us like a mother figure. Father Yod loved sex with teens. He was really into it. You know, it was tied with his
Starting point is 01:49:13 awesome music, as far as being his favorite thing ever. He was really into sex in general. He said when talking about the path of enlightenment, the greatest act of pleasure, what motivates the whole thing? Let's get right to it, is ballin'. This is the final conclusion, any movie out there, is it not? Some aesthetics on the path seek to just kill out of pleasure. They will not have it. It's a game, play it, not by killing pleasure, by using pleasure fearlessly. And again, I love that he just uses the term ballin'.
Starting point is 01:49:42 The time, what a weird guru. Let's get some ballin. Past the herb. God wants us to ball, baby. It's time to get some ballin in. Father Yoda's decision to take more wives, deeply upsetting to source members, especially many of whom existed in, you know,
Starting point is 01:49:56 were in committed relationships. It was deeply, deeply upsetting to his wife, Robin, aka, uh, um, uh, um, uh, decided, uh, she suddenly found herself sideline. Or I'm sorry, she didn't mom decided she suddenly found herself sideline or I'm sorry she didn't decide she suddenly found herself sideline by his new dozen you know mostly underage spiritual wives actually we'd take on like a baker's dozen sorry some of the source say 12 some of the sources say 13 and totally had either 13 or 14 wives she would say later
Starting point is 01:50:21 in an interview that in 2012 or in 2012, he might as well have skinned me alive. She told Father Yoda the time that she thought he was a dirty old man on a lust trip and he was. She was promptly demoted from house mother to common wife among many wives for saying that. And interviews many of the other women father Yoda chosen as his counsel of wives felt terrible for Robin, but not terrible enough to stand up to Father Yoda. The source restaurant continued to flourish. The source it has claimed made his counsel of wives felt terrible for Robin, but not terrible enough to stand up to father got. The source restaurant continued to flourish. The source, it is claimed, made more money per square foot than any restaurant in the
Starting point is 01:50:50 United States during a certain period of the 1970s. That's a one guy said, excuse me, was printing this trade magazine. Millions of dollars. And that actually might be true. It was certainly beloved by L.A.'s elite as we've already pointed out. As peak, one claim is that the restaurant made upwards of $10,000 a day, or between $100,000 and $300,000 a month. That'd be up to 1.8 million in today's money per month. That's a lot of kale. I have to be enforced out of their 15 bedroom mansion by concerned neighbors that Yod's kids might go, you know, Charles
Starting point is 01:51:19 Manson on the neighborhood. The source family had to move from the luxurious mother house into a new home in the spring of 73. This time, interesting choice, they picked a three-bed three-bath house. That 150 people would be living in. Mm-hmm, three bedrooms, three bathrooms, 150 people. The cold called this new house to father house, which feels right. It feels like a dad move. Getting a three-bedroom, three-bath house for 150 people. Like, it's just like popped up as a gas, that's what will work. I can do this. I can see myself doing something like that,
Starting point is 01:51:46 Lindsey being justifiably furious. What are you thinking? Three-bedrooms for 150 people? Hey, listen, I got a great deal on this place, right? The guys can pee in the sink, whatever. This can be one big fun sleepover anyway. Since it was smaller, most of the fam had to sleep in stacked cubby holes that other members had made
Starting point is 01:52:04 out of plywood. The style of living proof to, you know, not be very copacetic to local housing authorities. With various governmental agencies from health boards to child services, so again, various housing, kind of, agencies like inspectors, watching them. There was kids living in the father house, the source family under the microscope. Despite these cram quarters, the members of the group split up work, put the shower use on a schedule, share duties run in the restaurant, kept up on everyone's laundry, cooked, cleaned, you know, from the descriptions, ISIS and other members of the commune would give were actually pretty
Starting point is 01:52:34 happy cram together in this father house. And the father house is also where they got the band really going. Where it really got cooking, cooking up some burner, so many hot jams. Music, especially psychedelic music, was the core of the counter-culture movement. In 1973, Father Yod, even though he was now in his early 50s, found out what would be the musical wing of the source family cult, which we talked about, you know. Yahuwah 13. They turned the two car garage of the Father House
Starting point is 01:52:58 into a high quality sound-proofed recording studio. Father Yod at one point gave Octavius, and other members, $30,000 to buy the latest greatest best equipment possible. Father Yoda was of course the lead singer and frontman. He's not like God's gonna fucking play bass like Jackass. You know, his message of peace, stone love, and saying no to bacon found a melodic new outlet. I use the term melodic loosely. The other members of the band were Jin, Pytheus, Sunflower, and Octavius the Aquarium. The first recording of Yahoo! 13 released in 73 was called Kahutik. A lot of music
Starting point is 01:53:31 came out of the source family in a very short period of time. Of course it did. When a song lasts for about an hour and when you don't have to worry about courses or bridges or writing down any lyrics, you don't have to put a lot of thought into song structure, you can kick out a lot of tunes. Between 1973 and 1975, various versions of the family band with alternative, or alternative band names like Father Yod and the Spirit of 76, the Savage Sons of Yahweh
Starting point is 01:53:54 and Firewater Air recorded approximately 65 albums where the material, from 73 to 75, they recorded 65 albums of fucking shit well yeah which that's what you can do when you value quantity over quality let me have you forgotten how good how good it was 65 hours and this is the best of that
Starting point is 01:54:22 yeah this is the best this is the best stuff they put out. This is my favorite part right now, it's just fucking quiet. Oh, thank God. That's the space in between tracks is actually my favorite part of their albums. What is next song like? Okay, starts off. This is better. Anybody's hit the wrong song, cute up.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Okay, a little bit of a long interlude. I think it's supposed to actually play music. Are you gonna keep just ringing the bell? Let's skip ahead. Oh, this is a very quiet song. Oh, there we go. Now we're back to being. That's not a song!
Starting point is 01:54:58 That's not a song, you're just fucking hitting bells. Just fucking hitting strings. Oh my God. All the 65 albums recorded. The band released a total of 9-0 piece. Full of their extreme psychedelic sounds, packed full of tribal drums and distorted guitars. Songs are recorded after meditations. They'd have meditations between 3 a.m. and 5 a.m. and then they'd get to jamming.
Starting point is 01:55:21 The albums were released on their own hierarchy label, as limited pressing, sold exclusively in the source version. How pissed would you be if you bought one of those? Some of the songs were completely unrehearsed, GM sessions, of course they were. Others were a little bit more conventional rock songs. Whether the song was unrehearsed before recording or a song they actually put some work into, you always knew when you got a Yahoo-Wa album, it was going to piss off a lot of people, anyone who listened.
Starting point is 01:55:43 This got off of band somehow landed a manager named Laurel Sterns who tried to get a record deal. They would be denied by every record label in town of course they were. So in 1973 they decided to do the next best thing. They would just play some high schools. If they were going to get a record deal they could at least go play some high schools and try and recruit some more teens. So father Yad could try and fuck them.
Starting point is 01:56:03 That really happened. There was a video of the group playing at Beverly Hills High School where father, y'all can be heard saying to the crowd of young kids gathered around him, I am the father, you've always wanted. Oh my, oh my heck. Gosh dang, that's pretty fucking gross. They played several other LA area schools, high schools,
Starting point is 01:56:21 you know, even had some college gigs, including the show UCLA. 1974 would be a prolific year for the source family house band, they released eight albums, including their most popular record, penetration and aquarium symphony. That's the one you just heard. One of the songs called, Ho, let's skip ahead
Starting point is 01:56:36 and see, let's just give one more chance. Can we just give one more chance? This is their masterpiece, you guys. This is a little bit from penetration. In fact, just luck and whistle. If you don't play an instrument, I play guitar for like last year or two, but I've played it since college, and I'm not great. I'm not good. This is so ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:57:01 Just have one person whistle, whatever they want, and have another person just literally hit whatever strings they want, a little bit of distortion, and then they actually would put that on an album. I don't understand. Other album titles included contraction, expansion, savage sons of Yahoo-Wah, the lover's album. Sure, that one's great. Okay, currently one can purchase,
Starting point is 01:57:22 there's a box set of 13 CDs on Captain Trip Records, or you can just save a lot of money and just take a stapler and you can start slamming yourself in the air with it. Father Yod's commitment to music didn't get in the way of his commitment to getting his wives pregnant. Father Yod believed that the source family children would be the future spiritual leaders of the age of Aquarius, and a total of 52 children would be born in the source source family in just a few years of existence 1974 father you had officially announced to his followers. He was gotten a flesh saying I am here now to show you the way I'm the light. I am the way. I am the son of the father and the son is like the father and hair
Starting point is 01:57:57 It's all that the father has you my sons. I passed it on to you Almost start making announcements like that at home. Tyler Monroe, did you clean up penny and gg's poop in the yard? Like I asked yesterday. No, I'll dare you to five father god, get out there and do it. Do it so the father god will punish you. I know he will for in the light in the way. I'm the father god and father god just wants you to fucking pick up the shit. You know, before it rains, it gets harder to grab. It's stuck on our shoes. August 14th, 1974, Jim and Robin, I mean, father, y'all, y'all, and Awum, the Aquarian, have a daughter,
Starting point is 01:58:31 they named Tau Aquarian. You'd think a new baby would have been good for Robin and Jim, but their relationship was anything good at this point. She'd actually gathered the courage to leave the family, but then returned with the baby and hopes it would change father, y'all's mind, convincing him to stop banging all of his other wives, which it didn't, of course it didn't.
Starting point is 01:58:45 The original mother of the family and the real mother of his child was less and less the focus of his affection now that he had had more than a dozen other lovers. I've recorded a fuck ton of albums with a band in a single year and not seen any of them turn them into a rock star. Yahoo!ah's thoughts began turning to an insane
Starting point is 01:59:00 paranoid doom and gloom scenario, like the world would be ending soon. Isn't that how it is is these co-leaders? Right, they want to change the world. They want to do something real big and grandiose and then when they kind of hit their limit Like when the world's like, no, we don't want your fucking shitty music out of here Right, you convince those 150 people, but that's it. That's as far as you get to go That's when they seem to turn to wanting the world to end. The world's not gonna play their game. They want it to just go away Sometime in late 74 father Yoda began to lose interest in his musical projects, became convinced that America was
Starting point is 01:59:26 on the brink of a series of cataclysmic upheavals. He started making predictions that there was going to be a three-nation nuclear war followed by earthquakes, tidal waves, volcanic eruptions, things are getting dark
Starting point is 01:59:36 and in Yodeland. Then the IRS came in Ockin on the compound door when it turned out Yod had filed his taxes correctly or filed them at all for a while. Whoops. Plus the neighbors, anywhere they went, didn't care for having them around. compound door when it turned out yoadhead and filed his taxes correctly or filed them at all for a while. Whoops.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Plus the neighbors anywhere they went didn't care for having them around. Father Yoads now hitting on all the chicks as well, not just as many wives, tends to go for the youngest ones, things are unraveling further and further. People start leaving, start thinking about leaving as a respect for him diminishes. In late 74 newborn baby in the family develops an easily treatable staff infection, early dies. Father the father of the baby wanted to go get antibiotics, but the group pure pressure is him and to not doing that. They're against Western medicine. Come on, dude. Father, yo, you just breathe some magic breath into the baby. You just fucking wish the infection away.
Starting point is 02:00:19 You can chant it away. Let's get some more chanting in here. Eventually this dad decided to leave the cult, takes his baby with him, takes the baby to the UCLA Medical Center, where doctors are hearing about how the cult did not want the baby to be treated, immediately notified police of suspected, child endangerment, father, yoad, now he's feeling really persecuted, he's in an apocalyptic mood, he decides the cult needs
Starting point is 02:00:39 to get the fuck out of California, right? They don't like his music, they don't wanna let him, you know, run shit the way he wants to run it. And so he says, yeah, we need to go to Kauai over in Hawaii. The family's a story and ISIS would later write, we all sat in shock as he talked about it in the mornings, but he would talk about, uh, for hours. What he seemed about wonderful fruits that we would all soon enjoy in Hawaii. And he'll, mmm, I have to describe in each one in detail. And yell, mmm, after describing each one in detail, like she's, mmm, mangoes, mmm, coconuts, mmm, hmm.
Starting point is 02:01:10 Let's get to ballin' out there with those mangoes. We can just live on the sweet music I've made. December 26, 1974, the source family sells a restaurant. Their cash cow indeed moves to Kauai. Their goal was to one day soon open spiritual learning centers and health spas, but that's not, it wasn't going to happen. Kauai did not want them. Kauai did not want them.
Starting point is 02:01:30 Despite their supposed fortune, the trip to Hawaii nearly bankrupted the source family, doing part to father, yodes and sisters, they buy a huge boat for fishing and a private plane to spot the fish. Without the income provided by the restaurant and a relatively tolerant and supportive environment of L.A., the vision begins to fray at the edges. The locals, not super happy about this creepy sect of white, robe, wear, and weirdos moving in their community. Other hippie groups that already moved there and many of them were on welfare now.
Starting point is 02:01:53 We're kind of a burden on the local system. And as soon as they arrive, the family is tailed and taunted by local police, a contemporary article from the local paper, The Garden Island quotes Yahoo! A desperately offering their services uh... to police the airports to drive the uh... also unpopular hippie parasites uh... oh i'm sorry the police are saying this you know the police are saying they want to drive the hippies out of the island
Starting point is 02:02:16 uh... but then um... oh no i'm sorry i got confused here is the way i put my notes here a contemporary article uh... says that they offered to the at the cult offered to, yeah, they cult offered to police the airports. They also offered to drive away the other hippie parasites. That's where I got confused. They would get rid of the other cults if the item just let them. You know, if the authorities just looked the other way, a person riding into the paper afterwards says, who are these man's and type people? Father Yod calls the paper asked for an interview. When the journalist show up, he tells them we we are not the man's and family. And then talks to them about the source family's teachings.
Starting point is 02:02:48 And then according to one family member, within 24 hours, bullets are being shot at the house. So apparently, his follow-up interview did not go over real well with the locals. Things grow desperate quickly for father yode. He instructs his male disciples to trim their hair and beards fine jobs as soon as possible, but no one would hire them.
Starting point is 02:03:04 Man, rough times. What's the point of being in a hippie sex cult if you can't even grow your hair out? Sure the man goes for tasty, but they're harder to enjoy with the buzz cut. Meanwhile, Father Yoda becomes more detached from reality, including indulging in grand delusions of his own godliness before varying into rage and frustration over not being welcome with open arms and this supposed paradise. Father Yoda believes the government's coming after him for his underage marriages and shady tax dealings.
Starting point is 02:03:29 The paradise retreat quickly turns into a paranoid armed complex, complete with guard towers and armed hippies. A recording exists of Yoda dressing as saying a 30, 30 and a 45 pointed in both directions and justice is always there in the center with the machine gun. If the beast attacks your brother, what are you going to do? Then a male voice can be heard from the crowd saying, kill him. Yeah, it's getting crazy. Why couldn't they just try and fucking chant things away? Just get out there and start chanting. Come on. I bet if you did that for like
Starting point is 02:03:59 40 hours straight, God would fix everything. You know, it didn't chant enough. A former memory called this experience as out of control, like a runaway train. What we had envisioned of what became of that vision, it was like the difference was like the width of the Grand Canyon. In 1975, Yahoo-A, departs from the Hawaii group with a small entourage searching for a new home
Starting point is 02:04:18 for his family, places like Thailand, India, Nepal, Egypt, Greece, half a dozen other countries. So I guess they still had a little money after all. The remaining family members persuade the ones left behind. They persuade Hawaiian welfare authorities to buy them playing tickets to ship them back to the mainland. They fucking bounced. They're out.
Starting point is 02:04:35 Kult's almost done. 1975 after regrouping briefly in the much too expensive San Francisco, you know, city San Francisco, where they refurbished what they called a haunted mansion and where Yahoo-Aub basically revoked the sexual privileges of his sons in a vain attempt to make them get jobs, they then gave up and decided to try Hawaii again. Man things getting less and less fun, no long hair and no ballin. Why are we even here, man? Father Yoda's spiritual alley starts to wane, he's visibly tired, he's depressed, he's no longer sexually interested in his wives, his God boner had turned into a limp pedestrian shamecock
Starting point is 02:05:07 of the common man. Then in July of 1975, he tells some of his followers the truth, he says, I'm not God, I'm just a man. And they don't like to hear this, they disagree. Of course you are God, they say, father Yod replies, I seem to without power to move anything, to do anything. And his followers not overjoyed to hear this little switch of rule. I mean, they sold all their shit to be with this guy.
Starting point is 02:05:28 They've been following him around the world. You know, many have married him, devoted their lives to him, had kids with him, all because they thought he was God or at least Godly. Things are not working out for Father Yod, anymore. He's tired, he's steadily losing followers. He's tired of fucking, he doesn't want to play his cult game anymore. A few months later, Father Yod finds a way to get out of the cult, finds a way to get out of raising kids for the
Starting point is 02:05:48 third time in his life. He commits what seems to be a very creative suicide. The morning of August 25th, 1975 started off pretty strange. One of Father Yod's wives, Mccushla, wear an all black, which was out of character for her. Father Yod said to her, and the others, and this was tape recorded, you're appropriately dressed in black, Makushula. He said it in a way that immediately made her scream. They were very dramatic. Lots of screaming on these tapes.
Starting point is 02:06:12 Then he said, this is only natural for this is a returning home of the first golden age. So let's go flying, huh, Mercury? Mercury was the name of a family member who was really into hang gliding. Yo, continued, you've got a big kite big enough for me. The idea appeals to me going up without any lessons. Several of the women in the crowd scream cry on tape
Starting point is 02:06:31 as they realize what he was saying that he made up his mind to do it. As a group of the family with father Yoda and Toe began to leave their new Hawaii house, someone comes up the driveway as they pass father Yoda. Rolls down his window and reportedly says in Latin, more terry, the salutes hummus, which I guess means we who are about to die salute you. The group reads the high cliffs near their home when his father's yode turned to hang glide, yode asked Mercury to launch him off
Starting point is 02:06:57 the 13 to 1500 foot high cliff. There was a powerful win that day. There are pictures and sounds of people trying to get yode to reconsider. Don't do this. And as he requested, Mercury launches him on what to me seems like an obvious suicide mission, although he had never hangled it before. Apparently took off his fine. First, then like someone had flipped a switch to the wind dies. Father ought to immediately be in his deployment straight down to the Rocky Beach below. Witnesses say that father, he would recover control briefly, manages to glide out over the Pacific for a few moments before Navigating back to shore only to crash land on the rugged beach front of a native Hawaiian
Starting point is 02:07:30 Why a Milano campground When his many followers run to his side they say he appears to have no serious injuries that they can see But then Baker is unable to move due to probably breaking his fucking back from falling out of the sky onto a rocky beach There are pictures, video, an audio of all of this recorded by ISIS, what's strange to me is how Father Yo doesn't seem to get upset about crashing and really hurting himself. He seems strangely relieved, very peaceful and relaxed. Several of his followers, mainly women's voices, you can hear them saying, we can carry you. Do you want us to carry you? Yoad replies, why I move if I can't
Starting point is 02:08:02 get up with my own power. You know what I mean? I kind of like you know what I mean. I mean, he's very casual about all this. Then he would make some mones of pain and his followers would mimic the sounds, even go into songs and chants. It's very weird, confusing. See, one follower asks, it will heal, right? Father Yod answers, transmute the pain. His weird followers start chanting that transmute the pain, transmute the pain. His weird followers start chanting that, transmute the pain.
Starting point is 02:08:25 Transmute the pain. Father Yodin says, I thought that I was going to fly the kite, but I guess it was God's last lesson. He had to teach me. He seems very ready to die. Cold followers being part of a religion that was pretty anti-modern medicine,
Starting point is 02:08:40 don't take him to the hospital. He knew they wouldn't. They instead carry him back to the family house, try to fix him with prayer, chance, and meditation. But I'm sure it was awesome. Like when you're dying, when you know you're dying, how fun would it be in your final moments to hear this? I'm just gonna spend the last hours of your life.
Starting point is 02:08:59 Just over. Father Yoda did die hours later around 5 p.m. as part of their beliefs, when the body dies, and he's time to find the river of life, the family kept his body in the home for three and a half days, chanting, yad hi-va-yi, yad hi-va-yi, yad hi-va-yi. Fuck it, it's like some weird, cultish sequel to Weekend at Bernice.
Starting point is 02:09:20 It's a dead guy laying around the house for three days. Why, while everyone is just fucking chanting still, yad hi-va da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da dying might have been the best thing father yo did for his remaining children still with him he left the earth before things Get worse before he could orchestrate some mass suicide like so many other cult leaders, you know had done most of his followers were still very young We're able to go on and lead productive lives Without the charismatic leader there really wasn't a mission anymore of family and the source family had this band in completely by 1977 the original yahuwa 13 band dissolved those some of the members would rejoin later incredibly to make more music. Years later, they would write their best song, actually, I think, in honor of Father Yod, it's called God's Not Good at Hanglady. They didn't write that song. But they did write more songs. The first recording after Father
Starting point is 02:10:20 Yod's death by surviving members of Yahoo!irteen, then later called Firewater Air, was recorded in 1977, an album called Golden Sunrise. It was the first source family band record that featured the appearance of a family member in an in-house rock star and ladies favorite, Sky Saxon, on vocals. Sky Saxon had been the driving force, what a great name, Sky Saxon. The driving force between behind the seminal LA garage band, the seeds, whose song, Push and Too Hard, was a national hit, and was later recognized as one of the essential precursors to punk music. Another 1977 Yahoo-Watt related album featuring Sky Saxon was released called Yod Ship Sweet.
Starting point is 02:10:56 The record was a private pressing and except for Sky Saxon, another family member musicians involved. They're unknown, who else was involved. The sound takes on a softer, less acid rock tone, with flutes and acoustic guitars. Most of the songs are ballads about father, yodes, death. It is somehow, impossibly, even worse than their earlier music.
Starting point is 02:11:14 Check this out. This is the new Yahoo-Wah. ["Your Day"] Huh? Oh my god. Oh my god. Painful. This is making this up as it go along.
Starting point is 02:11:33 They're so high. Also in 1977, the final Yahoo-Wall related album, Yord Swift Suite Part 3 would be released. Only two or three original copies of that album are known to exist. Thank God, hopefully they're destroyed before they can be copied. Source Family reunite a couple of times in late 90s and early Ots, the first reunion Hawaii occurred to finally scatter father Yod's ashes on the 20th anniversary of his fail flight. SkySax and Clevery with Japanese label Captain Trip in 1998
Starting point is 02:12:02 to produce the Deluxe 13-CD box set that I mentioned earlier, has some previous, unreleased material. So you can hear the B-sides. Another Hawaiian reunion occurred with past members coming together to observe the birth of the Aquarian Age on September 17th, 2001. 2007, there's three surviving members of Yahoo-Waw 13 Sunflower, Octavius and Jin were invited by ISIS-aquarian and Jody Wile of Process to play in Los Angeles for the release of ISIS and electricity's history of the source family book. In the summer of 2009, drag city records released magnificence in the memory, rare cuts of Yahoo Waw 13 from the Archives of the Source Foundation, also in 2009, YahooWaw 13 played to packed houses with enthusiastic crowds on the East Coast and in Canada,
Starting point is 02:12:47 how fuck do they do that? Maybe they did connect with some higher power. I mean, without God tricking people into liking it, how else do you explain people buying a ticket to see shit or hear shit like this? And your soul will be free. Ah. My soul is gonna be free of these motherfuckers, right? Now we're getting out of this time, suck, the free. Ah. My soul is going to be free of these motherfuckers right now.
Starting point is 02:13:06 We're getting out of this time-suck timeline. Good job, soldier. You've made it back. Barely. What a trip, the source family cult. Now you know the story. Even though the cult for all intent and purpose died with father yo and the summer of 75,
Starting point is 02:13:28 some meat sacks are still kind of in it. A few mostly live in Hawaii, still wear their white cult robes, still do their chants, still think a old Jimmy B, old James Baker, father yo as father without a hint of irony. Some people will of course say that they were just simply brainwashed, you know,
Starting point is 02:13:43 looking for a daddy they never had, making them right for drug fueled ravings of a out of control, say that they were just simply brainwashed, you know, looking for a daddy they never had, making them right for drug-fueled ravines of a out of control of Meg Lamaniac. And that probably was the case for some. Others clearly believe that they actually discovered something in the source family that we just so got to him in lightning that the average human being just isn't capable of getting it. A sentiment expressed again and again throughout all of the interviews, the documentary
Starting point is 02:14:03 and the tell-all book. Especially watch the document, that was in a no-ain part. You can tell that they just, you know, they experienced something that, you know, just, you just couldn't understand. They really did elevate their consciousness. No, you just took a lot of drugs and did a lot of weird group thinking rationalized, oh, you fucking weird chanting and stuff. Some people moved on to other cults, which I find interesting. Omnithe Aquarius is now living in Yelm, Washington, a student of Ramatha, a 35,000 year old entity that speaks
Starting point is 02:14:31 to the body of mystic Jay-Z Knights. We've talked about that in the secret sucks. So weird. Guess some people are slow to learn their cult lessons. It's like, dude, you got out. And then you went and joined an even weirder cult. Electricity and harvest moon, sell real estate together in Hawaii. How do you like that? Have harvest moonies, you're realtor. Zanaro founded an international group of stem cell researcher, research and treatment corporations. He's a leader in that field.
Starting point is 02:14:56 Majes, the aquarium, founded a software staffing company in 1978 and sold it in 2000 for $60 million. But don't let the success of some of their, former members make you think it's no big deal to join Colt. Other members clearly have never mentally or emotionally recovered from the death of their father. And they were not prepared to go back to the real world. Excuse me, father yode, he was a phony.
Starting point is 02:15:20 He didn't know anything more about God than you or I. He even admitted it before he died. He was a rare collider to actually admit it. Like the main lesson here in this episode is the same main lesson that's in every cult episode. Don't, don't join a cult, right? When the leader of some spiritual group tells you that they're God or that you have to sell your shit and give all your money, you know, to them to stay in, you got run, run, run, or pick up a guitar and start making some sweet, you know, to them to stay in you have run run run or Pick up a guitar and start making some sweet sweet music, right? Or you can just jam Just fucking jam
Starting point is 02:15:52 Time now for today's oh god so good so good. This is actually pleasant This is I feel like that what's the prison effect? Where you start to you know things get really bad and then something just not quite as bad happens. Oh, that's good. I like that. I've listened to so much shitty music. I'm like, die, die, die, like that. Like the whistling. That's not as painful. Uh, time now for Top 5 takeaways. Time, suck, top 5 takeaways.
Starting point is 02:16:16 Number one, this whole thing started with vegetarianism. Don't forget that. If you get too much broccoli sprouts, asparagus and kale in your diet, you start opening your third eye to wide. And eventually you either play super shitty music, or at least have to listen to it all the time, or you might even get fucked by a wizard guy. Number two, Robin was father-yod's first cult wife. She was his legal wife.
Starting point is 02:16:39 The mother of his child very much helped design the religion that the source cult would follow. Shender stood the teachings, which truly seemed as the family's mother and in the course of a single afternoon, all that was taken away. She struggled as she watched the other women, many of them friends of hers openly display affection with her husband and partner. It's clear in interviews with her recent years, she was deeply affected and still affected to this day. And then also she was left with nothing after father Yod's death.
Starting point is 02:17:04 Man, cold leaders, one minute you can be everything to them. The next are disposable. Why? Because they're narcissistic, egomaniacs. Number three, this all started in the Los Angeles counterculture of the late 60s and early 70s, like so many other cults. Why? Show me! That's how they do it in Hollywood. Uh, number four, cold leaders love to sing. I'm gonna do some quick math, some quick napkin math, and study that odds are, if you're gonna date a singer in a band, the likelihood of you dying in a ritual suicide, wearing robes and goats masks,
Starting point is 02:17:34 increases about 6,000%. I mean, think about a man, some was a singer songwriter, you know, David Kuresh, he did some singing, Elr, Elr, Elr, Ron Hubbard actually made a ridiculous album, 1982 called Space Jazz, not kidding. I would play it here, but I feel like the Scientology would probably sue me. Jim Jones even had the people's temple choir. Father Yoda probably the best of them all.
Starting point is 02:17:55 And by best, I mean, arguably by far the worst. I mean, you heard it. You heard it too many times today. And number five, something I didn't mention before, after Father Yoda's death, others did try to keep the group alive. Makushla, following in Father Yoda's spiritual shoes, tried to keep it together in Hawaii for about two years. And then I disbanded, but then several family members purchased land adjacent to each other in the same place, continued to practice healthy living, even Solomon, the baby that Father Yoda
Starting point is 02:18:20 allegedly saved is living in Hawaii now. As his father, May just the Aquarian. Both have several acres of land they farm to this day. For them, I guess it did all kind of work out. Or sorry, Magnus, the Aquarian. Not May just, there's so many weird aquariums. When life gives you lemons, you know, you make lemonade. And when life gives you a shitty cult, you grow mangoes in Hawaii. Time, suck, tough, five, take away!
Starting point is 02:18:46 Source family cult has been sucked. You heard it? You heard the Godfather. You've heard the information. You heard the wisdom, you saw the light. You were ready. You were ready to receive it. Man, life in the late 60s, early 70s. What a strange time to be alive in LA Fun time to be alive now. You know what? Thank you the time-stop team. Thanks to the Queen of the Suck Lindsey Cummins high priest at the Suck Harmony Villa Camp Reverend Dr. Joe horsecock paisley
Starting point is 02:19:19 Oh my god, you know terrifying. Thanks to Biddelixer app design crew Oh my god, you know, terrifying. Thanks to Bitlixer, Episodium crew. You're gonna get a kick out of watching that part of the video later, about jumped out of my chair. Thanks to Axis Apparel. Big thanks to the Scripp Keeper, Zach Flannery, for helping him out with the research. If you want to meet more time, suckers,
Starting point is 02:19:36 I want to be part of the family. Keep seeing more and more people out there. Want to be part of the world, be part of the light. Join the code to the curious, private Facebook group, get a robe. Fill up, man. Be ballin', ballin' in the group over 13,000 meat sacs there. It's really more social interaction head over to Discord. Right from the time of the cab, roughly 4,000 discord members, little over 4,000.
Starting point is 02:20:01 Next week, go in mythological historical, such Greek gods, gods, man, can't stay away from them, they're everywhere. The major Greek deities ruled from the top of Mount Olympus, Northern Greece, Zeus, you know, Dinesis. Pestia, 80s, others, so many gods took explore next week. In Betia, Sweden, as. We'll be ballin' with those gods, Nimrod, Lucifer, and Abode Jangles will show up, indeed, children.
Starting point is 02:20:27 Yes, the legends will grow, Father, shows you. Time now to hear from our growing community, our family. Time now to hear from the family of business. In today's time, sucker updates. And I'm back. That was getting too easy to keep talking like that. But do that enough. Do that enough. Won't seem funny anymore. It's like, yeah, this is how it is now. Quick time travel updates from Time Sucker, Elliot Lawson. Elliot writes, you mentioned several time travel theme movies during the recent Time Travel Time Suck. If you mentioned I missed it, my apologies. If you didn't mention it,
Starting point is 02:21:05 the 1995 masterpiece, 12 Monkeys, starring Brad Pitt and Bruce Willis, great movie involving time travel. Last year, I took my family to a tour Eastern State Penitentiary, which served as the setting for the mental hospital in 12 Monkeys. Yes, thank you, LA, for sending that in. I did forget about that.
Starting point is 02:21:18 I haven't seen that movie in years, and now I wanna watch it again. My God, that is my favorite Brad Pitt movies. That also really liked him and snatched that guy, Richie, oh man. Yes, great recommendation. Another time travel update from Zach Watson. Zach writes, hey fucker, I have a bone to pick with you. I took your stupid advice to close my eyes,
Starting point is 02:21:37 spun in the circle of running backwards. You know what happened? I ended up in the goddamn thirties. I was 25 years old, now I'm 115. I had no idea how to get back. I just had a baby. You know how shitty it is? You need to be grown up.
Starting point is 02:21:49 All the cool shit we have is in losing my wife things. I'm a creepy old perv. You know claiming to be your husband, she's reported as missing. Just thought I would let you know you ruined my fucking life. All jokes aside, I love what you do. Keep up the good work, praise no Daniels. Thank you Zach.
Starting point is 02:22:02 For making me laugh, I appreciate that man. Funny awkward update coming in from Time Sucker Dustin. Oh, heesh. Dustin writes, well, fuck, Kudo to you, Suck Master, put me in a strange situation, you did. Let me preface this by saying that I'm an atheist who works at a library at a Baptist University. So I'm already on high alert,
Starting point is 02:22:22 walking on eggshells with my sense of humor. Among other responsibilities, I'm the evening supervisor at the library. My bosses had already gone home leaving me in charge of the students and student workers. I was at my desk listening to the Josephine Baker suck and well, shit got weird. One of our student tutors, a young lady, was sitting at the conference table in my office, tutoring another student. And who knows what? I'm listening to the episode of my computer. My headphones were plugged into the computer itself, which is underneath my desk, while I pivoted my chair to reach for something
Starting point is 02:22:50 and the headphone cord catches my knee, yanks the fuckers out of the headphone jack. Turns out it was perfect timing, and by perfect timing, I mean that it was just in time for the computer, not the headphones, but the speaker itself to blur out in the devil's voice, allowing
Starting point is 02:23:06 those dark titties to flop about. By the time I had a muted, it was too late. The tutor and the other student, the big black dude, looked over at me with visible, understandable concern. And my favorite part of all this, the student being tutor was kind of quiet for a second. And then Ernest is, can be goes, you talking about titties? I didn't know how to respond to that, so I go, yeah, yeah, they're talking about titties.
Starting point is 02:23:30 I had to explain when I was listening to and all was well that I know of. Just so you'd appreciate that. A little tale of the devil's voice, screaming about dark titties and demons, penetrating the silent halls of a Baptist University library. Love it, work and wait, dust and Jesus Christ, dust that made me laugh so hard. I appreciate it. I appreciate it so much. You send that in. Finally, Funny Bell
Starting point is 02:23:51 Gunnus update coming in from Jessica, Jorah, Jurya writes, Dear Mother Sucker, suck 150 Bell Gunnus in her murder farm has embedded itself into our home. As I'm sure you've experienced, kids sometimes like to watch the same F-ing show over and over. Well, for my sons, that movie is currently frozen. Oh, man, I remember Monroe went through a huge frozen spell when that came out. I was like right at the end of her loving
Starting point is 02:24:14 those kind of movies that way. I don't care that it's a girl movie. I wouldn't even care if they wanted to watch it and sparkly dresses and pink high heels. The God forsaken repetted in this of it is what is getting me. I want to thank you for easiness and sanity of parenthood and giving my husband and I something to laugh about
Starting point is 02:24:28 when we want to pull our hair out. Ever since my husband and I listened to the bell gun of suck, all I hear is uff, da, uff, da, uff, da. And various parts of disease frozen. I keep it to myself because it made me feel like, or I kept it to myself because it made me feel like a pervert for thinking it. However, when my husband saw me hiding a smile on evening,
Starting point is 02:24:44 he whispered, ooh, duh, ooh, duh, in my ear. I had never told him I'd been thinking about Bel Gunn as in the wandering, okins trading post in sauna, so I completely lost it, like cross my legs, trying to pee or drool kind of laughter. Since sentence are sick and twisted inside joke, it gets us through crazy nights
Starting point is 02:24:59 of having two small boys, three and one years old. Thanks for strengthening our family ties through laughter. We both immensely enjoy the suck. Keep up the great work of spreading knowledge and laughter in the wonderful cocktail that is the suck. Hail Lucifina, Jessica from Arizona, PS, speaking of Lucifina, my husband made me promise that I would never say,
Starting point is 02:25:17 Úf, de, Úf, de, or petudini hangi and mom which warms you holds you holds during sex. He does not think it would be funny. Challenge accepted. Love it. Love it, Jessica. Oh, I hope we get another update where you've done that and I want to hear how he reacts.
Starting point is 02:25:34 And yeah, love the laughter, man. It is good to laugh. What a weird, crazy world to live in. You just gotta laugh it sometimes. I'm glad you guys like to laugh and learn and like to send in your nice messages to Time Sucker Update. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 02:25:45 Next time suckers, I need a net. We all did. Have a great weekend everyone. Try not to join a cult, but if you do, please don't start a jam band. If you do, please start one little better than this. If you are gonna sing shitty songs, maybe you can at least sing about Keep On. Suckin' through it, y'all. You know, once you listen to it long enough, it starts to make sense. Notes start to fill your mind high, love and ball and thoughts of higher consciousness. If you can play this and handle it, eventually get a little chantin' worked in. Really, really, just kinda kicks things into a higher gear.
Starting point is 02:26:50 Nah, it's fucking dumb. That's all, pretty stupid. Do you don't chop those guys to death? Ch-chop, ch-chop, ch-chop! Just want to quick chops, everyone's dead.

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