Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 170 - Nazi Search for the Holy Grail

Episode Date: December 16, 2019

The Nazi’s Search for the Holy Grail. We look at this today and also into so, so many other strange beliefs held by Heinrich Himmler, Hitler, and other occult-minded Nazis. Today we’re going real ...wackadoodle, talking about ice giants, the hollow earth, the lost island of Atlantis, and so much more. We’re looking into the origins of the myth of Aryan supremacy and Himmler’s quest for anything that might have given the Nazis the ability to conquer the world. Check out Lynze and I's new horror podcast Scared to Death. Listen on Spotify, Stitcher, iTunes, Youtube, and more! Here's the iTunes link: https://apple.co/2MRMgai 2020 Toxic Thoughts Tour Standup dates: http://dancummins.tv December 26-28 Spokane, WA Spokane Comedy Club CLICK HERE for tix! Listen to the best of my standup on Spotify! (for free!) https://spoti.fi/2Dyy41d Timesuck is brought to you by the following sponsors:Quip: Go to GETQUIP.com/timesuck to save on gift sets and get the first refill FREEDollar Shave Club: Get the Ultimate Starter Set for $5 at DollarShaveClub.com/TIMESUCK Merch - https://badmagicmerch.com/ Want to try out Discord!?! https://discord.gg/tqzH89v Want to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever current page hasn't been put in FB Jail :) For all merch related questions: https://badmagicmerch.com/pages/contact Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcast Wanna become a Space Lizard? We're over 6000 strong! Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcast Sign up through Patreon and for $5 a month you get to listen to the Secret Suck, which will drop Thursdays at Noon, PST. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. You get to vote on two Monday topics each month via the app. And you get the download link for my new comedy album, Feel the Heat. Check the Patreon posts to find out how to download the new album and take advantage of other benefits.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 the Nazi search for the Holy Grail. Looking at that in so much more today, every culture that has ever existed in the world has had their share of weird superstitions. Crazy myths, religious dogmas that many find strange and fantastical, Nazi Germany certainly no exception. The Nazis had a very, um, a typical world view, very strange,
Starting point is 00:00:20 and you know, pretty fucking horrible vision of how the world should look, and also as it turns out, pretty delusional view of how the world used to look. Also especially racist. One of the great lengths to prove that the racism was rational, scientifically based. Racism certainly not unique to the Nazis. Racism has been around for many, many centuries. It has existed in various forums all around the world, continues to exist, but few have
Starting point is 00:00:42 been as racist, or at least as uniquely racist as the Nazis. Their vision for an Aryan world was based in a belief in Aryan superiority and to rationalize this belief, they developed a number of very strange theories about what it meant to be Aryan. Their strange beliefs opened the door to even stranger beliefs and pretty soon just about any half-baked, crazy, mythological or folklore-based idea that pointed to Aryans being the master racer to the existence of some type of magick or magical item or occult secret that could help the Aryans win World War II seem possibly legit.
Starting point is 00:01:15 In their lust for world domination and their quest for what they considered racial purity, the Nazis traveled around the globe to find a number of mythical and supernatural items like the Holy Grail. They thought would give them an advantage over their enemies as they attempted to conquer the world. They believed that possessing these magical items would prove that the Aryans were indeed the master race, the race destined to control the world, to prove the superiority of Aryans, the Nazis even tried to prove that modern Aryans are the descendants of ancient gods, the descendants of Atlantis, the descendants of Atlantis.
Starting point is 00:01:45 The descendants of actual giants who could speak telepathically and fly around and do other cool, not at all possible shit. From talking battle strategy or taking battle strategy advice from psychics and astrologers to the hunt for the lost city of Atlantis, and of course again the Holy Grail, the Nazis were very into what they called border science, which is a lot like real science except you get to make up everything and reinterpret actual science to fit any idiotic and or hateful agenda or narrative you want to spread. Got a lot of wacky doodle to dig into today. It's going to be a weird one.
Starting point is 00:02:19 A lot of dumb Nazi beliefs. I look forward to mocking today on this. I'm sorry. What the shit did you just say? Edition of Time Suck. This is Michael McDonald and you're listening to Time Suck. You're listening to Time Suck. Happy Monday, Mitex? I'm Dan Cummins, AKA Dam suckins, AKA grandmaster suck, AKA the suck master, the master
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Starting point is 00:03:12 the next decade. Gosh dang. Thanks for all the ratings and reviews. The overall podcast landscape gets more competitive every week crazy. How many podcasts are out there? Those ratings and reviews help across, you know, all platforms, a good rating or review the best gift you can give us. Next to telling your friends, social media followers, family, et cetera, to listen, maybe don't tell David Hike. Talked about him a lot on the Patreon secret suck. I would rather he not find out. I think, or maybe that will be the best. Maybe that'll be a lot of fun and good publicity. You know what? Go ahead and tell him. that'll be the best. Maybe that'll be a lot of fun and good publicity. You know what, go ahead and tell him.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Maybe great to tell him. And now let's talk about merch. Listen up, Rastlin fans. Monday, Monday, Monday, we've got the Rastlin shirt of the century! The Chica Tilo went to Rastlin Academy, grappling flopping, sliding, and rolling hop and gliding. The amazing Andre versus Ed, the Neck Kemper. Let's get ready to rumble, mother.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Black bell of tribal and made out of 1,9% rastlin. Oh, that's always fun. That's always fun. Uh, I love doing that voice. Also just in time for the holidays, the Lucifina winbreaker, Ben restocked, Hail Lucifina, and finally, Paches. We got some patches.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Four new patches on my heck. Mother, I love my cult. Good boy, Bojangles. We have those three additional patches, only for the space lizards. All patches made out of a 100% patch fabric, and also 100% buttons and castles. Space was to get that, you guys get it.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Also, working on changing how merch is shopped and shipped out this next year. I'll have more details the next few weeks, but access to Paral aka Spicy Club. Still be doing the designs, thank you, Nimrod. Merch will be now be distributed though, or here soon, will be distributed by a giant corporation with a dedicated customer service staff,
Starting point is 00:05:04 a company based in Cleveland Which I like when the sucks hometown I got more printing presses dedicated delivery staff directed garment printed options and more the cult has grown We've had some growing pains Think Nimrod for that and we've been brainstorming for quite some time about how to keep more items in stock have more consistent delivery times faster online customer service But still be able to do the fun little niche specialty items that we like to do as the robes and other about how to keep more items in stock, have more consistent delivery times, faster online customer service, but still be able to do the fun, little niche specialty items that we like to do.
Starting point is 00:05:28 As the robes and other odd items, how can we stay niche? But because our customer bases grown, have customer service more on par with something like, you know, something like a big company like Amazon could provide. Just want you to know that we've been working brainstorm behind the scenes for a couple months
Starting point is 00:05:44 and coming up with some new organizational systems that will roll out before that much longer. They'll allow me to focus more on content, allow you as a customer if you're getting them merged to get stuff, you know, more consistently when you want to have more things in stock. It's just going to be a hopefully a big improvement on something that I think is already really good. So I want to share that and last stand up tour dates the year in the city where my stand up life began. Spoke and Washington ticket selling fast for shows on Thursday, the 26 Friday, the 27th, two shows on Saturday, December 28th. Later this week announcing dates for my toxic thoughts, 2020 stand up tour. Check out Dancomas.tv at Dancomas.com
Starting point is 00:06:25 right on Instagram and Facebook. Please for those dates Sacramento Brooklyn, Huntington Beach, St. Louis Salt Lake City Nashville, Philadelphia, Honolulu Hawaii, Dallas Houston, San Antonio, Atlanta, San Francisco, Boston, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Oklahoma City, Loveland, Colorado and so much more. Those were all just in the first half of the year. Some tickets on sale already. Some will be on sale soon, already working on
Starting point is 00:06:50 several news stories that were not written yet when I recorded my last special just outside Detroit in October. And hopefully that'll be out, you know, in the spring. Thanks for supporting the stand-up. I love it. No live time sucks in 2020 though. Sorry. I love doing them But I took on too much in 2019 damn near burn myself out sleep deprivation I'm touring a bit less overall this next year. I have more help in the suck dungeon trying to get more efficient Get better at time suck better at standup better at the secret suck better at scared to death spend more time with the wife and kids and dogs Before I add anything else to my plate may do live sucks at some point, but right now folks in my road performance energy, solely on standup. August 2020 will be my 20 year standup anniversary and I want to be the best
Starting point is 00:07:34 I've ever been. I know there was a lot. There was a lot we're doing a lot here. Thank you for listening. Now let's get into some crazy. Oh man this was a fun one. Holy fucking wackadoodle. Let's get into some crazy. Oh, man, this was a fun one. Holy fucking wackadoodle. Today is a weird suck. And one of my favorite sucks thus far, it's a Nazi search for the Holy Grail time. The dark cult of Nazism, especially at its inner core,
Starting point is 00:07:59 was real, real weird. Notches would decide there was a good idea to hunt for the fabled city of Atlantis to look for an entrance to the Hollow Earth and to try and find mythical items like the, you know, spear of destiny. They would all search for real items as well like the Ghent Altarpiece because they thought it contained a secret map to a magical place to understand the Nazi motivation for all of this. We must first understand Nazi beliefs about the origins of the Aryan race.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Because that really is why they were looking for all this other stuff. They wanted to prove, they were superior to all the other races, this belief, and Aryan supremacy would fuel their desire to search for all the other stuff. I had no idea the space lizard voted in, topic would send me and the team into wormholes where I ended up learning so much about what the Nazis thought it meant to be Aryan. I had no idea. So glad I know now. Hope you will be glad too. Adolf Hitler, the German Charles Manson, if Manson would have been a teeny tiny bit
Starting point is 00:08:56 more mentally stable and would have had Wemmer followers twisted the theories of archaeologist Gustav Kocina to assert that Aryans were a master race of Indo-Europeans. Hitler's Aryans were Nordic in appearance and directly ancestral to the Germans and that they were responsible for every cool thing that has ever happened in the world and more. The Nazi Aryan myth goes something like this. Around 1700 BCE, these Aryans, the ancient group of people whose actual origins, I'll go over here shortly, invaded the ancient urban civilizations of the Indus Valley, present
Starting point is 00:09:31 day India and Pakistan, and destroyed their cultures and built a new superior culture. These Indus Valley civilizations, also known as Harappa, or Soras Vati, Soras Vati, had a written language farming capabilities what can only be described as a very advanced for the time culture and civilization and then they were crushed by the areas at least in the hittler's mind and he's invading ass kicking areas were super white
Starting point is 00:09:56 a bunch of super white blue-eyed ripped borderline superheroes kicking ass for modern day india and pakistan now set that makes total sense you know that that white people settled that area long ago, because I mean, if you've ever met someone from India or Pakistan, you can really see the area and features right away, right, the blonde hair, the blue eyes, the fair skin, all cultural kind of trademarks
Starting point is 00:10:17 of Pakistani and Indian peoples. I mean, just watch a Bollywood movie and you'll get it. You know, you'll think, for fuck's sake, do you ever cast anyone who isn't white blue hide with Nicole Kidman color, super white, like printer paper, white skin? My God. Can just maybe one person maybe just have a little more melanin, hazel eyes, raven black hair?
Starting point is 00:10:36 Where's this movie set, Sweden? We all know I'm being sarcastic, right? Okay, good. Moving along. Some 1200 years after the supposed Aryan Indian invasion, the descendants of these Aryans, again, in Hitler's mind, wrote the classic Indian literature called Devedas, the oldest scriptures of Hinduism.
Starting point is 00:10:52 These allegedly Nordic invaders were defined as looking directly opposite to native South Asian peoples called Dravidians who were supposed to have been super, or have been much darker skinned, but is Hitler's belief true? Well, of course not. He was a maniac when it came of course not. He was a maniac when it came to racial beliefs. He was a true Wacadoodle. This shit was believed by some late 19th
Starting point is 00:11:11 century early 20th century archaeologists still believed by many Wacadoodle pseudo historians, pseudo archaeologists online today. I now believe by no one taken seriously in the archaeological or historical community, it wasn't until the late 19th and early 20th centuries that the world, that the word Aryan even became equated on any level with Germanic or Nordic peoples. Outside of Nazi speak, Aryan is not a race. One of the many sources we used for this suck, an article on Thoughtco.com, states that Aryan is probably one of the most misused and abused words ever to come out of the field of linguistics. Prior to the recent corruption, Aryan referred to an archaic language,
Starting point is 00:11:53 whose speakers based originally in present-day Iran, Pakistan, and India, a language spoken by people thought to have spread and influence other languages throughout the Indian subcontinent a few thousand years ago. Aryan speaking Middle Eastern people traded, procreated with people already living and influence other languages throughout the Indian subcontinent a few thousand years ago. Aryan speaking, Middle Eastern people traded, procreated with people already living on the Indian subcontinent, people who did not kick the shit out of them and take over, or they
Starting point is 00:12:13 did not kick the shit out of and take over, it's so prevalent. It's even listed in many addictionary today under the definition of Aryan. Had to look at a lot of sources to untangle this linguistic historical mess today. The earliest known actual Aryan speaking people are thought to have originated in prehistoric Iran. And then these people migrated throughout present day Pakistan into northern India sometime around 1500 BCE. Previous inhabitants of the Indian subcontinent speaking Sanskrit called these newcomers,
Starting point is 00:12:42 newcomers, Aryers, Aria. Aria, there we go. Aria. And the English word Arian comes from this Sanskrit word Aria. Interestingly, the term has a linguistically related equivalent in the Persian language, Iran. This word is the source, of course, of the modern country name of Iran. And if you do a Google image search for Iranian people, they do not physically resemble Aryan
Starting point is 00:13:05 Nazis, unless you're colorblind and brain damaged. So early Aryans, not white, just like Jesus and every other character in the Bible. I've always cracked up with these depictions, these notions. The blue eye and fair skinned Jesus, or of Caucasian depictions of Mother Mary, the Apostles, any of the Old Testament characters, like they weren't white. Like case closed, 100% for sure they weren't white. But this is, you know, the kind of idea is that Hitler and his people spread around. You've ever met anyone from the Middle East, someone whose family goes back in the Middle
Starting point is 00:13:34 East for multiple generations. You know, unless they have some old European crusader blood or some recent Jewish resettlement blood, you know, European Jewish resettlement blood, you know, not white. And neither were the Aryans. They didn't have blonde hair, didn't have blue eyes, pushing this narrative, nothing more than propaganda. So, so where does the blonde hair blue eyes association come from? Well, blonde hair and blue eyes currently believed to have originated in the Nordic lands around the Baltic Sea around 11,000 years ago after the last ice age. The results of genetic mutations that began in those ancient bolts, the bolts not believed
Starting point is 00:14:07 by most people who studied the migration patterns of pre-written language meat sacs to be the same people as the ancient Aryans. So this, it's nonsense. It's nonsense what the narrative they were pushing. And now let's back up even further with all this racial shit that Hitler uses basically his entire motivation to take over the world, this idea of racial purity that led to searching for nonsense like the Holy Grail, will the idea that there were a lot of ancient and very distinct, different races of early humans is horseshit.
Starting point is 00:14:36 That is a belief not supported by modern archaeology, by modern anthropology. Humanity believed to have evolved out of Africa, migrated, or humans, early humans, believed to have evolved out of Africa, migrated around the world from there. Like I've said, an older sucks at the end of the day. Based on everything we now know, we're all essentially really African. If you go back far enough. So even if the bolts and Aryans were the same people, which some scholars do still believe, even if they did make it to the Indus Valley and founded the beginnings of Indian and Pakistani culture,
Starting point is 00:15:11 it wouldn't matter anyway. Because if you traced it back far enough, you'd eventually make it back to ancestors common to all of us, meat sacks. According to humanity's current, it collectively accumulated archeological and anthropological evidence, Africa is the motherland for all of us, stress that enough and port and drum to be locked.
Starting point is 00:15:29 This notion that there was one ancient Nordic looking group of blue-eyed blonde haired Aryan mother fuckers who were superior to all these other distinct groups is just a bunch of misinformed racial superiority justification nonsense, you know, built on the back of nothing on lies. It's a racist wish, not anything backed by current scientific evidence. Also to further debunk the Aryan migration models that Hitler and his goons believed in, archeology has shown that the Indus Valley civilization was highly developed before any Aryan speaking people arrived.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Aryans did not provide them with this big cultural leap forward like Hitler believed. Some evidence suggests that the Indus Valley civilization had social conditions comparable to Samaria, even superior to the contemporary Babylonians in Egyptians. Religions arose in the Indus Valley around 5,500 BCE, farming communities around 4,000 BCE, urban living around 2,500 BCE. The area reached its cultural peak in 2000 BC and the Arians didn't, you know, heavily influence any of that didn't conquer any of that. Nevertheless, early German propaganda, both surrounding Hitler and influencing him as
Starting point is 00:16:34 he rose to power, took their Arians a period of myths even further beyond the scope of credibility, like way further. The grandfather of all Arian theorists was a French aristocrat known as Arthur de Gavignon. A Gavignon. Arthur came from an old, well-established aristocratic family, and he was in the latest pompous, superclassist racist fuckface, followed in the revolutions of 1848. This series of uprisings across Europe where the common peasants of Europe rose up against a variety of monarchies and the aristocracy. Cabinill was consumed by fear that the revolutions were the beginning of the end of aristocratic Europe with common folk descended from lesser breeds
Starting point is 00:17:16 taking over. In 1853 he published a 1,400 page tomb in essay on the inequality of the human races. Promising to diagnose the mortal disease of civilizations and explain how society's collapsed. His hypothesis was that every major civilization had been created by white Aryans, like all of them, even in the New World. He wrote that the once the pure Aryan stock of a particular civilization became deluded by fucking and being fucked by members of other inferior racial groups, then that civilization would go into decline and inevitably collapse.
Starting point is 00:17:58 So you know, his writings were just a wee bit horrifically insulting to most people on Earth. I mean, I get the Polish being inferior. That's why their country's been sacked so many times, Avi, but everyone else, come on. And an old joke, by the way, save your email, new listener. JK, I JK sometimes, that's the name. Gavin Yeo wrote that ancient Egypt was an area in colony
Starting point is 00:18:20 from India, China was too before it became, quote, absorbed in melee and yellow races. It is words not mine. Okay. Also originally white, according to Count Gabenio, were the Assyrians, with whom maybe class the Jews. Middle Eastern people being given a Caucasian revisionist makeover here. A bunch of white European-looking people doing shit in the Holy Land. Uh-huh. Sure. Other civilizations that obviously started off with fake white people were quote, the three civilizations of America,
Starting point is 00:18:50 the Alleghenian, the Mexican, the Proveian. Pretty sure those are not the names of American civilizations, but okay, right? Take that American Indian tribes. You know, Europeans didn't take anything from you because you're already European. Bam, Nazi mic drop. Nobody's seen, you know, he's saying that,
Starting point is 00:19:05 what the fuck, the people in America as we're started by Aryans? A Gabbanyah concluded his sweet, super factual book by stating that non-Aryans were incapable of forming advanced societies. Deep, teensy bit, super duper racist, faced with any evidence of non-white civilizations, Gabbanyah would claim that white people
Starting point is 00:19:22 had created them and then just mysteriously vanished. So, you know, there was no archeological evidence, you'd be like, well, okayah would claim that white people had created them and then just mysteriously vanished. So there was no archaeological evidence. He'd be like, well, okay, well, okay, this appeared not my problem, but it was for sure white people. Gabbanyah wrote his book before Charles Darwin published his theory of evolution, and he wrote it with a zero understanding of fucking anything about science, no knowledge of linguistic, you know, trees, nothing. He just is what he believed.
Starting point is 00:19:45 He claimed that Germanic people were a pure Aryan stock than other Europeans, not because of any German nationalist leadings, he wasn't German. He did that because he believed that France's nobility was descended from Germanic Franks. And well, I guess he was just really, really insecure and he really wanted to feel important. And Godbunny was racial theories would obviously appeal
Starting point is 00:20:04 to Hitler and his Gune weirdos greatly. Yes, and Hitler jerked off so so many times to Gavinyo's teachings. Viosovites, Viosovites. Yeah, yeah, Viosovites. That was the most powerful. Also Germans, I should have not descended from one ancient group.
Starting point is 00:20:22 There's so many problems with what he wrote. Modern Germans descended from five different tribes, the Saxons, the Franks, the Thuringiae, the Ale Manier, the Vierier, these five tribes, sometimes with the inclusion of the Frisians, or considered the main groups that, sexed it up to form modern Germans. This is another problem with this whole area of myth,
Starting point is 00:20:43 is that now there is a variety of Germanic tribes that were different, different linguistically, culturally. And again, go back far enough, you know, Africa. You get it. Other even crazier teachers, crazier teachings, excuse me, also peeled the hiller and the fake area and echo chamber of Hayton Stupor, he surrounded himself with. A Nazi theorist named Alfred Rosenberg believed that the Nordic race was
Starting point is 00:21:05 descended from proto-Aryans who he believed had pre-historicly dwelt on the North German plane, but in ultimately originated on the lost continent of, wait for it, Atlantis. Now we brought the lost island of Atlantis into this mix. Fuck yeah bro, sweet, cool story. And we haven't even come close to max now and this week's crazy. It's soon going to get even crazier. This Rosenberg motherfucker would be hanging for war crimes after the war. And it's too bad he couldn't have been brought back to life and then hanged again by his dick. He'll be one of the main
Starting point is 00:21:35 authors of the Holocaust, pushing and crafting that pro-Aryan fuck everyone else ideology to cost millions of people their lives. As a Nazi party's chief racial theorist, Rosenberg oversaw the construction of a human racial ladder that justified Hitler's racial and ethnic policies, Heinrich Himmler, the later architect of the Holocaust, boy did Himmler love Rosenberg's theories. A big fan, big fan. Pretty sure Himmler used to beat off in his Nazi office to Rosenberg's theories even more than Hitler did. This all, oh yeah, Rosenberg. The Germans had ascended from Atlantis, and the Jews, they diluted a heroic Atlantian blood.
Starting point is 00:22:09 And nine, nine, not yet little Himmler. Not yet, I've wanted it so much more. Rosenberg built on the works of Gapanyo and others, took it further. He was a big believer of the Judeo-Mason conspiracy. It centers around notions of a secret coalition of Jewish leaders and Freemasons pulling economic strings for the whole world.
Starting point is 00:22:29 He was basically who I imagine David Ike or Alex Jones, like who might, who they might be. If they're put in a position of actual extreme political power, I just Alex Jones with Nazi power. The frogs are gay. We know that. We know that for a fact. We know that the Jewish Freemasons made the frogs gay to make homosexuality more appealing
Starting point is 00:22:48 to strong frog-like and Aryan boys and girls to try and get them to keep them from breeding later, thus allowing the Jewish Macins and their freedom, Aryan Hating gay frogs to destroy us. Can you smell the sulfur? Can you smell the Jewish Freemasons? Damon sulfur. And Alex Jones really didn't think in variousious forces were making frogs came by the way. I didn't just pull it out of thin air.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Uh, Rosenberg believed that Germans racially pure supposedly Aryan ancestors lived at one time on the lost island of Atlantis. Mm-hmm. Uh, and I should note here that a lot of people the time did actually believe in the Atlantis myth. Not the Aryan roots part necessarily, but the lost island part. People from archaeologists, explorers, the politicians, people that included a former U.S. congressman.
Starting point is 00:23:29 We talked about way back in suck 43, the lost city of Atlantis episode. It was Ignatius Donnelly of Minnesota, who was an influential Atlantis believer. In 1882, it Donnelly positive that Atlantis was not merely a lost island, but the very cradle of humanity itself. The earthquake that destroyed it, he maintained was positive that Atlantis was not merely a lost island, but the very cradle of humanity itself. The earthquake that destroyed it, he maintained was the big bang of civilization, which hurled Atlantis' population in its culture across the world, from which emerged the Greek gods, the forebears of the Aztecs, the founders of the cities of Mesopotamia, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Donnelly's book Atlantis, the Andaluvian world world heralded a new Atlantis Renaissance, which Helena Blavatsky, Ukrainian co-founder of the Theosophical Society at the end of the 19th century also played a part. We talked about old Madame Blavatslapi, a bunch of that Atlantis suck. And to deluvian, by the way, means of or belonging to the time before the biblical flood. And Helena was quite the storyteller. Oh boy, we have heard a blame for oh so much insanity that exists on the internet today. This Loney Tune said she did shit
Starting point is 00:24:32 like travel along the astral plane. She was visited on a regular basis by the spirit of a mysterious Indian who told her powerful secrets about the world's origins. She was super mentally unstable. Really glad her rock solid mind was around to influence people who influenced him or, and then, you know, Hitler. Lovatovaevki would claim, or others would claim on her behalf that she was, when she was
Starting point is 00:24:53 young, she left an unhappy marriage to a vice governor, traveled around the world where she smoked hashish with the universal mystic brotherhood in Cairo, studied voodoo in New Orleans, found a lost ink and treasure in South America. Performed as a concert pianist in England, visited the Mormons in Salt Lake City, got their secrets. Wounded and left for dead fighting alongside a famous Italian general survived not one but two sea disasters had an affair with an Italian opera singer discovered an ancient language called Sanzar, studied and Tibet with the group of ancient, secretive,
Starting point is 00:25:25 quasi-immortal masters, who told her about Atlantis and whose overall teachings would later become central to her theological teachings. Hela's mother was a fiction author and it seems that Helena learned a thing or two about making up stories from mom. Holy shit was Helena so full of so much shit. Oblavatsky claimed to have learned about the existence of mankind, seven root races, the fourth of
Starting point is 00:25:51 which originated in Atlantis, the fifth of which was the Aryans who descended from the Atlantians. Like Donnelly, she believed that the wisdom of Atlantis was spread across the globe when the island was destroyed. She thought the descendants of the Atlantians still carried in their blood, the qualities of their forebears. And she believed that the descendants of Atlantis, again, were the Aryans. And of course archeology supports fucking none of this. Neither does any field of academic study.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I mean, we all know that, right? None of it. None of this shit is true. And I say this because people still put on theological workshops today, right? They're pushing a shit today, right? In books. I'd ask you people to subscribe to their fucking crazy ass websites.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Gosh dang. The 1901 German translation of Blavatsky's book, The Secret Doctrine, exerted considerable influence on early 20th century Germanic thinkers who were obsessed with proving their theories about the primal source of their Aryan race. We'll talk more about Blavatsky in a bit. The myth of Aryan supremacy continued to be built by future Nazis or future Nazi influencers in the decades leading up to World War II. The Austrian Guido von List founded a neo-Pagan movement in the early 20th century that sought to restore worship of the Nordic god Wotan, the tutonic counterpart of Odin.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Among the Aryans, he espoused the existence of Aryasophy, referring to the wisdom of the Aryans. There was a push to dethrone the Christian god and replace it with a, you know, replace the Christian god with Germanic gods of pre-Christian times, if it ain't Aryan and ain't shit. You know, Von List promoted this belief that Aryans were the sons and daughters of old pagan gods who were once very real, and they produced Aryans who were capable of a number of magical things that no one else on Earth could do. Like fly around, speak via telepathy.
Starting point is 00:27:37 If only other inferior races hadn't deluded their powers, the German people would still be gods. This is seriously the kind of shit being promoted by people like Von List. Gosh dang, agents and Africans and non-Aryan Europeans. Why did you take my sweet powers? You took my sweet white power powers away from me. Gosh dang, Hordean 23 and me, I'm down to 18% German. And even that is mixed with French, some of a bitch,
Starting point is 00:28:00 I'm probably like 10% Aryan tops. No fucking way I'm gonna be able to speak with my mind. You know, fly around with such a shitty amount of Aryan master race, root race, blood of my veins. I'm so deluded. Why did my ancestors have to sleep with a bunch of fucking dirt backs? That dang! There were other equally crazy ideas floating around concerning the origins of the Aryan race.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Some of the followers of the German occultist Rudolf von Sepont, Subatendorf, founder of the Thule Society, an important Nazi ideal, I, eh, ideology influencer, believed that the Aryans were the remnants of the race of, or of a race of white giants who inhabited the mythical land of hyperbaria, or hyperbaria. There we go. A land made up in Greek mythology, all those positives, by the way, are me looking at my many phonetic translations that I
Starting point is 00:28:55 fucking Maghiver together myself that would not make it a phonetic kind of pronunciation book, but they worked for me. But anyway, this hyperbaria, this land made up in Greek mythology, where the god of the north wind lives. Perfect land where the sun never sets, land totally made up by ancient Greek people, back when they were making up stories about all those crazy, raping gods we talked about back in suck 162, the Greek god suck. And who believed in all this weird, thuel society nonsense? Who believed in old white power giants?
Starting point is 00:29:26 Rome in the earth like monsters and some kind of racist dungeons and dragons campaign? Well, according to Hitler biographer Ian Kershaw, the Thuel society's membership list reads like a who's who of early Nazi sympathizers and leading figures in Munich. And this crazy Thuel giant talk feels like it can make for the beginnings of a new routine for resident sub-comedy and Steph Cox curvy. If you believe that the
Starting point is 00:29:53 white man is superior because he descended from flying Aryan ice giants that speak with their minds, you might be not see amongst the thoo tools was Alfred Rosenberg, that pro-Atlantis pro-Aryan, super-antisemitic icon Alex Jones, like conspiracy now we talked about earlier. Rosenberg became the Nazi movement's main ideologue, and he wrote in his book, The Myth of the 20th century, that the old legends about Atlantis may appear in a new light. It seems far from impossible that a flourishing continent once rose above the waters. And upon it a creative race produced a far-reaching culture
Starting point is 00:30:30 and sent his children out into the world of seafarers and warriors, far from impossible. Sure. I bet this guy thought that Pixies and unicorns were also far from impossible. Probably loved unicorns, right? Love how white they were. Another prominent member of the Thule Society
Starting point is 00:30:44 was Heinrich Himmler, the dude who had lead the Nazi hunt for the Holy Grail. Himmler was the guy who had become the head of the SS, and be the chief of the German police, as well as the Reich's interior minister. One of the chief architects of the final solution, there was no vice-furer position, but essentially Himmler was second command.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Himmler fucking loved this shit. This nonsense influence him greatly in his youth, which shows how dangerous wackadoodle ideas can be. Hitler and his goons did not come up with anti-semitism. They were born into a world where it already existed. They were born into a world where nuts were handing out pamphlets and giving speeches about ideas like errands being to send it from gods or giants or Atlantis.
Starting point is 00:31:21 They'd be also powerful, if their magical bloodline was pure again. And ideas can be powerful, powerful things, even the crazy ideas, which is why we must continue to openly shit on the really bad ones. Himmler and a few other ding dongs established the Ancestral Heritage Research and Teaching Society, called Anonabi, which stood for Ancestral Heritage.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Himmler, as Heather Pringle wrote in her book, the master plan Himmler Scholars in the Holocaust, conceived of this research organization as an elite think tank, a place brimming with brilliant young mavericks and brainy upstarts, up and comers who would give traditional science a thorough cleansing. And by cleansing, I think like whitewashing, Nazi think tank, and anything good to come from a Nazi think tank. Of course not. The Anonabi sought to transform Ray Sterey into an official German science that would supplant the so-called Jewish sciences, aka actual science, and provide academic validation for the ancient origins of the Aryans and their supremacy.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Great. They made groups that academically, even scientifically, sought to legitimize all this Atlantis-ice giant god talk. Towards this end, the institute organized expeditions of archaeologists, musicologists, philologists, anthropologists to the four corners of the world from Iran to Tibet, to Finland, and a search for evidence of Aryan supremacy. Uh-huh. Now, whack-a-doodles are trying to prove this shit with evidence.
Starting point is 00:32:41 These expeditions would lead to Nazi search for the Holy Grail. So did Hitler himself believe in all this crazy shit? No, probably not. Most historians don't think he did, at least not all of it, but he was more than happy to promote all of this since it helped motivate his followers to take over the world as the rightful supreme master race. It was great propaganda fodder. Hitler's right hand lunatic, him, he did seem to be a true believer. Hitler of course did believe in Aryan supremacy. And he was in favor of ideas that promoted Aryan supremacy, no matter how crazy it might be. He knew again that his propaganda department
Starting point is 00:33:15 spread message such as the German people were descended from gods or that it'd be a big part of the reason that post World War I economy and Germany had collapsed. The reason a lot of Germans in 1920s and 30s were suffering was because inferior races were watering down their superpowers. He knew that all that was good for the cause. The search for a strongly nationalistic Aryan centric national prehistory had begun after Germany's lost in World War II in 1918 or World War I, excuse me, 1918. The terms of the Treaty of Versailles had crippled the German economy, demoralized the German people. Psychologically, they felt desperate. Their collective self-esteem was
Starting point is 00:33:49 at an all-time low. They were desperate to find something to feel good about again, to feel proud of. They just gotten their ass kicked. They were poor and suffering and Hitler and his occult loving Aryan Goons fed that desperation with preposterous lies that many of them happily gobbled up. I mean, historically, people seem to always have loved escape goat. And they love the thing that they're the best people in the world, right? They're on the winning team. Who doesn't want to be in the winning team, right? Where are number one?
Starting point is 00:34:13 Where are number one? We used to be in giants. We used to be gods. We come from Atlantis. Our problems are because of the Jews and the other in fairy races. That's why we can't fly. That's why we lost the war. Gotta help my neighbors. Can't hear what I'm saying. I. That's why we can't fly. That's why we lost the war. I gotta help my neighbors.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Can't hear what I'm saying. I hope the building manager dug. Doesn't hear what I'm saying, because his office is behind the wall I'm talking towards. Where he has a financial planning office. Oh my god. I doubt he would love to be talking to a client about their financial future. Walls through the wall, they hear what sounds like a fucking white power maniac. Ren.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Especially since we're living in Northern Idaho, or I don't know, maybe they fucking love it because we live in Northern Idaho. I don't know, maybe there's a couple of those people still around. I like what you're doing here, Doug, good for you. We've got to keep the bloodlines pure. I don't know. I know. Anyways, the Nazis funded organizations like the Anunnabi, where archaeologists, academics,
Starting point is 00:35:01 were expected, were pressured to find archaeological results that fed these pro-Aryan beliefs that they want to present as facts, Nazi archaeology rarely conducted with an eye towards accuracy. There's a propaganda tool designed to both generate nationalistic pride in Germany, in Germans, that I just talked about arguably even more important, provide scientific excuses for conquest, where we have to win this war,
Starting point is 00:35:22 become gods again, it's our destiny. The only way we can communicate telepathically and fly and shit as if we rid the world of inferior races and you know all this land used to be the areas anyway. So we're just really taking it back. And how fucking crazy is it that all this is real? Like all this happened. But these clowns were really in charge of a mini empire for a while. They ended up teaching the shit to people for years. They taught this stuff in school. Imagine if they had won the war. If the Nazis had won in one big,
Starting point is 00:35:48 if they'd actually taken over the world, imagine what you would have been taught in school. If they actually let you live, right? Would you be taught science? Oh, no. You would be eaten a steady diet of wackadoodle propaganda. You'd be taught some Atlantis, God, people weird Greek mythology,
Starting point is 00:36:03 fucking Aryan ice giant shit. You'd be taught Aryans were behind the pyramids in Machu Picchu and the white people used to be superheroes. I mean, that reality wouldn't be terrible for me. It's at least look Germanish, not German, but you know, I can pretend terrible for most people. Reverend Dr. Jopie, he'd do great with his blonde hair and his blue eyes. He looks like an Aryan youth summer camp counselor. The script keeper, that's so much. You know, he's Jewish, so not a great reality for him. Not religiously Jewish, but you know, he wasn't really raised Jewish, but his mom is Jewish, so.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Oh, his 23 and me results would not be pleasing to the Nazis. It's fucking crazy all this stuff. History lessons like this remind me of how important it is to forever keep church and state separate for one thing. Now you wanna believe in your religion fine, but keep it out of the government. And that goes for all religions. New age, Western, Eastern, all of it. Keep it out of school.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Only teach what we know scientifically. It can get so crazy if we deviate from that. It has gotten so crazy in the past. I want you to start to deviate from real history, from real science. It gets real easy to start basing decisions on belief instead of proof. And then to have belief become the proof. And this suck illustrates exactly how dangerous that shit is. Like, because people can have some real, real crazy beliefs.
Starting point is 00:37:16 So how was all this, you know, crazy pro-Aryan info talk to the German people? Well, for one, there was a series of films made by a German pseudo-history name that Lothar Zotts, with titles like Threaten by the Steamplow, Germany's Bronze Age, The Flames of Prehistory, on the trail of the Eastern Germans. These films use the appeal of myths, olden times, German triumph over change, to reinforce the idea that German history was something to be proud of, be proud of your white heritage, and being proud of one's heritage, you know, white or otherwise, it's fine, okay fine.
Starting point is 00:37:44 But obviously they took it too far. Lothar's films were edited by Nazi propagandists to fuel their pro-Aryan fuck everyone else agenda. Additionally, pamphlets were distributed magazines were printed that put out the message to Aryans, the German people were the best people to ever live. These publications did stuff like twist actual archeological information into more pro-German propaganda, reporting nonsense is fact fake news. The Nazis push Germans to think that the history they've been taught prior to the rise of Nazi
Starting point is 00:38:11 party was lies, lies spread by the inferior races to keep the aliens down. They've been fed lies because the rest of the world feared them discovering their truth and chasing their destiny fully empowered. A membership flyer for another new historical organization called Amt Rosenberg was passed around as the third rite through powerful and it stated responsibility with respect to our indigenous prehistory must again fill every German with pride. The goal of this organization was also stated as the interpretation and dissimation of unclassified knowledge regarding the history and cultural achievements of our northern Germanic ancestors on German and foreign soil, right?
Starting point is 00:38:47 The truth has been hidden from you. We're going to share it with you now. So now you know the origins of Hitler's Aryan supremacy ideology. It was based in fake archeology, revisionist history, also just outright wackadoodle, myth and lies, all of this fueled Germanic pride. And that was used to reinforce the nationalistic fascist message Adolf Hitler was crafting with his speeches, open air meetings, his public image. There's so much more to it, but basically the Nazis were happy to exploit
Starting point is 00:39:15 the idea that Germans, at least the pure Aryan ones, were descendants of the people who conquered and built the cities of the world, the great empires, were themselves the descendants of the men and women of Atlantis, were themselves, you know, the descendants of giants of actual gods, and all of this opened mental doors to push further and do shit like, you know, look for the Holy Grail, because, you know, you think the gaining possession of a mythical relic will allow you to rule the world with supernatural powers. Now let's look at the Nazis, many fields of what was called border science, beliefs that pushed further and further into the occult and the supernatural. Students of Nazi history will note that when the fjure and his boys got into power, they immediately
Starting point is 00:39:56 attacked and shut down what could be considered occult groups, including pagans, which is free masons. Why do this? If they're believing in the same stuff, well, it wasn't because of a sudden surge of skepticism. Now various occult related activities and organizations were shut down in Nazi Germany at the urging of Heinrich Kimner's Rasputin-like personal occultus Carl Maria Villagant. Why? To eliminate Wacadoodle competition, right, to ensure that Villag Bill Gates own specific pro-Arian brand of occultism, that his pro-Arian pagan beliefs were the only belief system left, right? Gotta get that pro-Arian hive mind going.
Starting point is 00:40:34 He can't have different ideas floating around. This crazy, Bill Gates motherfucker was so into secret Aryan knowledge that he'd come to possess thanks to years of occult study that his wife actually left him specifically according to what I read because he wouldn't shut the fuck up about his weird beliefs. I love that detail. Malvin, why did you leave Carl? He wouldn't stop with the secret knowledge, Emma. As he crazy asks, he talks about, I have the blood of the God kings in his veins.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I can read my mind if I never he wishes, but it's not true. If he was a vet of my mind, he would have known I thought he was an lazy fuck. And it grossed me out how he really clipped his fingernails and he often smelled of the cabbage. Villagot had developed a religion centered on worshiping the Germanic god, Irman. According to Villagot German culture, dated way back back like way back to 222 220,000 BCE a period of time when the earth as you'll no doubt remember being taught in school has three sons according to what he you know came up with When it was back back when it was popular by giants and dwarfs and other mythical creatures
Starting point is 00:41:40 I'm gonna repeat that The dude who him or Look to for a cult advice. Himmler's spiritual advisor. This guy, the second in command to Hitler's Nazi party, this dude believed that German culture dated back over 200,000 years, which is over 200,000 years further back than what it is actually true. And this dude thought that when German culture started Earth had three sons, was full of giants, dwarfs, and other mythical creatures.
Starting point is 00:42:10 If you believe that ancient Germans lived on an Earth circle by three sons, and that the Earth was once full of giants, dwarfs, and other mystical creatures. And you think this somehow all supports a notion of what power you might be in Nazi. I mean, think about how fucking insane this is. In the States, this is the equivalent of vice president Mike Pence having lizard illuminati believer, David Ike, for his personal advisor. Hitler was a fucking lunatic. Kyle, I know that you have answered this question before, but how many sons did the Germans of old half? Three sons. That is right.
Starting point is 00:42:53 That is right. So what happened to the other two sons? Did the Jews take them from the German forefathers? Of course, yes, of course they did. Thanks, Kyle, did you use the text so much? Even some extra sons, you know, of which I've certainly made a Zyventus much more bearable? What about the giants and the dwarfs? Did this just somehow runes out for the Germans as well? Yes, of course it did. Thank you, Kyle, for your wisdom. Viliket also claimed to be descended from a line of kings going all the way back to this ancient period of time, like a couple hundred thousand years.
Starting point is 00:43:27 So you know, that would be a wee bit hard to know or proof. Did I mention that vilicate was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic? Yeah, buddy. You knew the Nazis were crazy, but did you know that they were this fucking crazy? Himmler consulted a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic delegate on a wide variety of issues my god and look I don't want to bash people with mental health issues, right? Not setting out to do that. But if you're a paranoid schizophrenic You know better than anyone that if you go off your meds
Starting point is 00:44:00 Probably shouldn't be advising anyone on anything What should we do to get in that behind in a battle against the Jews and allies with the blacks and the other Infiltorized as Carl You gotta gotta gotta gotta get the spirit destiny got the more people more people there the hollow earth Deep in the tunnels Lamp this kind of find the giants holy girl holy girl holy Holy Grail, Holy Grail. One girl will rule them all. I can read in the match potatoes. I can read in the match potatoes, potatoes, potatoes, potatoes.
Starting point is 00:44:29 The Jews have the potatoes. They beg them in the two sons, they stole. I, giant king, will have all the answers. That's exactly what we were doing, Carl. You'll find the hollow tunnels to get the potatoes from the two sons. And that'll help us. Vindivore, I'm sure of it. Yes! You will get your match potatoes, dear Carl. to get the potatoes from the two sons and that'll help us. Vindavod, I'm sure of it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:46 You will get your mashed potatoes, dear Carl. I could not do any of this without your wonderful mind using Villagots insane prophecies, like quite literally insane prophecies. Himmler chose a castle in Wolfsburg to serve as a base of operations for his SS troops. He established a room in his castle with the crystal representing the Holy Grail. Aha. Yeah, they got a crystal Holy Grail room now. These guys are in charge of an empire and they're buying a fucking castle based on the advice of a mentally ill profit. A lot of really good sound decisions being made right now.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I really could also help in the design of the room covered deathhead rings at the SS troops war, personal awards that him or her issued himself. There have also been rumors of an Nazi occult society based on Vril. A magical substance described in the book The Coming Race that was published anonymously in 1871, later determined to be the work of English author Edward Buller-Lighten. Excuse me, Lord Lighten. Lord Lighten was a big fan of Madame Bulbaski. So weat one whackadoodle
Starting point is 00:45:46 given birth to the next. Lord Lighten's 19th century work of fiction. Fiction describes a traveler exploring a cave who becomes lost, discovers a subterranean civilization, people by supernatural beings called Vrylia. And the novel these beings made use of a fluid called Vryl, which they could telepathically manipulate to heal, destroy, or change their surroundings. And the Nazis may have looked for this cave. They may have believed that Lord Lighten was onto some shit. And based on what you'll learn later in the suck, I'm going to say this probably happened.
Starting point is 00:46:20 The existence of a Nazi occult society focused on a supposedly real version of viril is unverified, but not difficult to imagine that such a society could have found a purchase with some occult obsessed Nazis. Okay, now let's talk about border science. The Nazis called their various work in the occult border science to legitimize it. Still has the word science in it, so must be fact fact, right? Now, they said that there are many divergent fields of, you know, studies crossed borders between what was known and what was unknown. And this is why I get mad when flat authors want to be taken seriously by academics and scientists. No, your belief is fucking asses of nine.
Starting point is 00:47:01 It's fantasy. And if you want to believe it, okay, fine. I think you're being super ignorant but fine. But if you want that belief to be placed alongside the science-based belief in around Earth as if the two belief systems are equal, as if Flat Earth belief is some kind of border science, we can get the fuck out of here. Doing that opens the door to any other stupid idea based in nothing to be taken seriously, like the idea that Ary that Arians are descended
Starting point is 00:47:26 from Atlantis. Border science was determined adopted by 1930s occultists to cover fields like parapsychology, astrology, clairvoyance that suddenly found favor with Hitler's fact of verse government. Let's take a little more closer, let's look a little more closely, excuse me, and the organization that did most of the nazis pseudoscientific research then we'll take a closer look at him or uh... him or in a few other people like madame love at the end then we will look at the search for mythological relics like the holy grail
Starting point is 00:47:56 of the nazis had two major groups dedicated to looking into all this super weird shit legitimizing it the anionabi we talked to them uh... talked about them a bit, and the Amtl-Rosenberg, who we barely mentioned, let's start with the Anonabi, which means, again, ancestral heritage, translates as inheritance of the forefathers. The Anonabi was a secret society created by Heinrich Himmer, Herman birth, Richard Walter Dar, Herman birth was a Dutch historian obsessed with Atlantis, sweet. Dar was the creator of the Nazi blood and soil ideology.
Starting point is 00:48:28 A push to get Germans to move away from urban living, live more simply on farms. Okay. I mean, so I guess all of their ideas weren't evil. The last one wasn't evil. Dar was also the head of the race in settlement office in 1940. He had the following published in Life magazine by Blitzkrieg before autumn. We shall be the absolute masters of two contents. A new aristocracy of German masters will be created with slaves assigned to it.
Starting point is 00:48:52 These slaves to be their property and to consist of landless non-German nationals. We actually have in mind a modern form of medieval slavery, which we must and will introduce because we urgently need it in order to fulfill our great tasks. These slaves will by no means be denied the blessings of illiteracy. Higher education will in the future be reserved only for the German population of Europe. Okay, okay, so I guess it was a pretty evil idea. I didn't, uh, when I said it wasn't evil before, I didn't have all the full details. So I, pretty evil. Officially, Enron Abbey was registered as a study society for primordial intellectual history and German ancestral heritage.
Starting point is 00:49:34 But as I said it earlier, the organization's real goal was to research the cultural history and characteristics of the Aryan race only in an effort to prove that Aryans were a godlike advanced race from which Germans were descended. The ultimate goal of Himmler was with a lot of this was to create a new Aryan-centric religion that would replace Christianity as the only religion in Germany. The only religion is the religion that says that aliens are the fucking best and no one else is close. The Anonabi officially integrated into the SS around 1940, set about a numerous missions all over the world to search for rare relics,
Starting point is 00:50:05 mythical places, ancient secret texts. The organization had many up to 50 different branches dealing with more than 100 research products in total, all of which I'm sure were fucking crazy. And sorry, some of the numbers here are vague. Many of the records of this group were destroyed by the time the Allies won World War II. Some of the branches were responsible for research and Tibet. You know some stuff about them. Others based in India, archeological excavations were conducted in Germany, Greece, Poland,
Starting point is 00:50:33 Iceland, Romania, Croatia, many other countries, including several on the continent of Africa, South America, occupied Russia. What a fucking weird job these poor archaeologists had, right? To have to go try and find magical relics for him, or and the fear that you know most of them knew did not exist. Like how terrible if you were actually good at archaeology and you knew this shit wasn't true. And then you get sent to like, Tai Bet to find a tunnel that was supposed to lead to the hollow earth where Aryan giants were supposed to live. And then you have to answer to him or everyone's small, right? Because he's giving you a budget for this.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Where's the entrance Alfred? You've been in Taipei for a long now. For six months, yeah? How many magic giants has you found? No. And what about the magical dwarfs? No. What about the signs of Atlantis? Does he hate the Dutch land outfit? Then I recommend strongly that the fuck a little harder to find what's in the North Real. How? Tell them what's in the North Real. You gotta find the dwarves, magic dwarves, magic, magic, magic dwarves. They will take you to the giant. They have the schnitzel. There's the only ones you can make it. Ha, the juice took the two sons. That's why it's important, important, important, important.
Starting point is 00:51:50 The ice giant king will have the answers. Yeah, you heard him. You heard him, Alfred. Listen to Carl. The ice giant king, perhaps answers. It's all easy. And yes, ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Sorry. Ah, ah, ah. What are you gonna do the whole episode like that? Yes, I know it doesn't make sense to crawl as an American accent, but it makes his nonsense even that much funnier to me. And Tybat was especially a priority for the research, Mademoiselle Vatsky, knew there were all kinds of secrets there, and him or one to find them. One of the main reasons Institute for Inner Asian Research was founded was because of those old Blavatsky, Theosophical, Tybethan secrets that she talked about. Another one of the research institutes of the Ananabi dealt with the world ice theory would suggest that there were several moons in different orbits around Earth, and the approach to those extra planetary objects
Starting point is 00:52:40 resulted in polar shifts, cataclysmic events, scientists in this organization, and I use the term, scientists very loosely. Thought that Earth was created when a giant chunk of space ice collided with the sun at one time, if you forgot, do you remember that?
Starting point is 00:52:54 When the space ice touched a giant flaming ball and somehow made a bunch of dirt and water, that makes sense. Good, good science. This theory was initially proposed in the 1912 book, Glacial Cosmogony, written by a really
Starting point is 00:53:05 good mechanical engineer who was really bad at Earth origin theories, guy named Hans Horbiker. And this wackadoodleless fuck book, Hans says that the white Aryan man was not descended from the apes as were other inferior races. But rather, the white man came from divine sperm, a brought to earth by meteors. Uh-huh. And then the space sperm developed into the godlike Superman of the ancient civilization of Atlantis Thule, which employed parapsychology,
Starting point is 00:53:36 mystical electricity, somewhere like Thor's hammer. Uh-huh. If you believe that the white man is descended from superhuman space sperm, in that everyone else comes from monkeys, you might be not. Heller did believe in this theory, at least a part about the world starting off as a big chunk of space ice, at least for a while. Apparently, a lot of sense to him. Himalor loved the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Yeah, the space sperm. That is how the aliens got to Earth to live amongst the monkeys and to use. It was the space bomb. Carl, tell them about the space bomb. Space bomb, space bomb, space bomb, space bomb. Ice giants sent a white power meteorite. One of the giant stone balls, one of the, the master race, master race, master race. I say make a broad worst.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Apart from history exploration, Inna Nabi also conducted top secret experiments, Master race, master race, master race, has to make a brawler. Apart from history exploration, interna be also conducted top secret experiments, some of which are not to involve artifacts or ancient texts that were discovered during those expeditions of a variety of horrible experiments also performed on live human beings throughout all this. The documentation from any of these experiments has been destroyed, but we know that stuff
Starting point is 00:54:41 like seen how well non-areons dealt with ice, was one of them naked non-areons, put in tubs of ice to see how long it took hypothermia to kill them, you know, because they weren't, they weren't, uh, descended from gods and couldn't handle the ice, you know, she had like that. Uh, the other organization that worked on this sort of stuff was Amt Rosenberg. Amt Rosenberg was an official body for cultural policy and surveillance within the Nazi party headed by Alfred Rosenberg. Established on April 27th, 1934,
Starting point is 00:55:07 under the name of the Anstale Rosenberg, with offices in Berlin, the group like the Ananabi, was all about the acquisition of art objects across the occupied territories of the Reich. And that Ananabi, by the way, I may be butchered that word. I could not find a solid pronunciation. There wasn't given by somebody only speaking fluent German,
Starting point is 00:55:24 which, you know, it's, it's sound a little weird for me. Well, touch on the kind and, and quantity of loot this group and others gathered over time later in this episode. Right now, let's take it a bit into the guy that connected the Nazis to the Holy Grail and they'd call it more than any other single person. Heinrich Himmler. Gonna give a quick little bio on this utter nutter. Might do a full suck on this fucking ding dong someday down the road.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Hildmer was born on October 7th, 1900 in Munich, Germany. He was a politician, police administrator, military commander, who, as I said, became the second most powerful man in the Third Reich. He was a son of a Roman Catholic secondary schoolmaster, studied agriculture after World War I, was an unsuccessful chicken farmer. Like a lot of German youth after World War I, he was pissed about losing the war. He wanted someone to blame, so he blamed like many of the time, German Jews, and then eventually all Jews, and then everyone who wasn't Aryan.
Starting point is 00:56:13 In its early 20s, he joined the rightist paramilitary organizations, became a member of one of those Ernst Roms, Imperial War flag. He participated in Adolf Hitler's beer hall push and Munich. The beer hall push also known as the Munich push. Push being a plotted revolt or attempt to overthrow a government, especially one that depends upon suddenness and speed was an abortive attempt by Adolf Hitler and Eric or Eric Ludendorff to start an insurrection in Germany against the Weimar Republic, November 8th, 1923. So Himmler went way back with Hitler, early adopter of his ideologies. Himmler joined the Nazi party in 1925, Rose Stettley and the party's hierarchy was elected a deputy to the right
Starting point is 00:56:57 stagg, the German parliament in 1930, when Hitler's party gained over 18% of the seats, 107 in total in the German parliament. The previous election, 1928, they'd only acquired 12 seats. So 1930, you know, they're really getting going, really ascending towards their eventual takeover of the German government. The year before 1929, Himmler had been named the head of the SS, the protective echelon, Hitler's elite bodyguard. Himmler immediately began expanding the SS.
Starting point is 00:57:26 A recent membership of more than 50,000 by 1933, from 1929 until the regime's collapse in 1945, the SS was the foremost agency of security, surveillance and terror within Germany and German occupied Europe. After Hitler gained power on January 30th, 1933, Himmler became head of the Munich police soon afterward became commander of all German police units outside Prussia.
Starting point is 00:57:48 He quickly used his power to establish the Third Reich's first concentration camp at Dachau. In April of 34, him or was appointed assistant chief of the secret state police in Prussia. From that position, he extended his control over the police forces of the whole Reich. He masterminded the June 30th 1934 purge in which the SS eliminated another Nazi group, the SA, the stormed attachment that had protected Nazi leaders during speeches and demonstrations as they rose to power as the security and police force within the Nazi party. This purge strengthened Hitler's control over both the party and the German army. After he began to view the essays, head Ernest Rom as a serious rival. So he and himler and others made up shit about Rom trying to overthrow Hitler and they
Starting point is 00:58:32 had him killed. And Hitler was, as you'd guess, grateful to himler for helping him kill Rom. And he expanded himler's power within the Nazi party. With Hitler's blessing, himler began to build the SS into the most powerful armed body in Germany next to the actual armed forces. He officially assumed full command of the security police and the order police as the head of the SS and chief of the German police on June 17th 1936.
Starting point is 00:58:57 World War II brought a vast extension of Himmler's empire and the resources at his command. After Germany invaded the Soviet Union in 19 20 or in June 1941, Himmler's empire and the resources at his command. After Germany invaded the Soviet Union in 1921, Himmler was entrusted with the administration of the conquered territory with the goal of eliminating any Soviet system of government. In July of 42, Hitler appointed Himmler to head a German anti-partisan campaign in the occupied areas behind the front lines, a campaign targeted at the racial and political enemies of the Third Reich characterized by widespread acts of mass murder and atrocity. Hamlet would oversee the deployment of the, uh, Eisen, Eisen's group in the massacre of Jews and other victims at sites such as Bobby Yard and Ukraine during the early war years.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Man, that was a crazy terrible massacre in just two days. September 29th and 30th, 1941. Over 33,000 Jewish people were massacred in just this one place. By just in this Bobby Yard, Ukraine, families were told they were gonna be resettled. Instead, they were forced to undress. They were led to a ravine that was 150 meters long,
Starting point is 00:59:57 30 meters wide, 15 meters deep, and then mowed down with machine guns. They wounded buried alive amongst the dead. At least 29 people laid down before being shot on top of other bodies, pretended to be dead as other bodies were laid on top of them, then snuck off in the middle of the night before they were buried alive and they lived to tell their tales. Unreal, man. This is far beyond anything I can even imagine in any kind of real way.
Starting point is 01:00:21 And him, there's delusional evil fuck face laptop was behind this and many other atrocities. Himmler organized concentration death camps in German occupied Poland, which millions of Jews were systematically slaughtered. Camps that provided free labor for the war effort, bodies for more horrific and involuntary medical experiments. By 1943, the now 42 year old Himmler had become minister of the interior and a force of his own for right administration. He expanded the armed SS until with 35 divisions it rivaled the actual Nazi army and size and strength. He gained control of the Nazi intelligence network, the werewolf, the Vervos, a guerrilla force
Starting point is 01:00:57 continued or intended to continue to struggle after the war. Also ended up commanding two army groups. Not content with military power alone. Himmler attempted to set up an autonomous SS industrial empire. When that provoked resistance from Hitler's minister for armaments and war production, Albert Spear, Himmler apparently orchestrated and attempt on Spear's life in February 1944. And in the final months of the war, Himmler suffered increasingly from psychosomatic illnesses, began to lose favor with the fear. He increasingly found himself outside of Hitler's inner circle as the war wound Himmler suffered increasingly from psychosomatic illnesses, began to lose favor with the fewer.
Starting point is 01:01:25 He increasingly found himself outside of Hitler's inner circle as the war wound down to a close. In April 1945, it became known that Himmler hoped to become the new fewer. He negotiated with both Sweden to form an alliance with the allies, hoping to form this new alliance that would be against the Soviet Union. Hitler found out, stripped Himmler of his offices, ordered his arrest, and then disguised as a common soldier, Himmler attempted to, a him, a tentative, attempted to escape captured by the allies. And then he committed suicide by taking poison, dying on May 23rd, 1945 at the age of 44. And now that we know a bit more about who him, there was, let's learn a bit more about
Starting point is 01:02:00 some of his ideological influencers. And then armed with all of this super interesting, I think contextual knowledge, will dig into the actual quest for relics like the Holy Grail. And if you're wondering, why didn't we just jump into the quest right away well because A, we wouldn't have learned all this cool shit.
Starting point is 01:02:16 B, we wouldn't really understand who these assholes were and what these assholes real motivations were when they decided to look for the Holy Grail and other items. C, it would have been about a 30 minute long suck. The story of the actual search for the grail in my opinion isn't that interesting. I mean spoiler alert, they didn't find it. On to more wacky details now, the ideological czar of the Nazis supernatural area and ideology
Starting point is 01:02:41 was Alfred Rosenberg, right? That David, I Alex Jones type Rosenberg was born January That David, I, Alex Jones type. Rosenberg was born January 12th, 1893 in Estonia, born in the son of a cobbler and what, what was at a time apart of Russia? Rosenberg studied architecture in Moscow until the Bolshevik revolution of 1917. 1919 he goes to Munich, joins Adolf Hitler, Ernest Rom, Rudolph Hess, and the newly formed Nazi party. You like what they were doing.
Starting point is 01:03:05 He became the editor of the Nazi party newspaper. He drew on the ideas of English racist Houston Stewart Chamberlain, and on the protocols of the learned elders of Zion, a 19th century fabrication concerning a supposed Jewish plot for world domination. Ah, shit! That nonsense again. I broke down the protocols in a series of conspiracy segments in the secret sucka. Wow, back up.
Starting point is 01:03:27 But here's a quick summary of what that, the protocols of the Learn Elders of Zion is provided by the Anti-Defamation League's website. The protocols of the Learn Elders of Zion is a classic and paranoid racist literature, taken by the gullible as the confidential minutes of a Jewish conclave convened in the last years of the 19th century has been heralded by antisemites as proof that Jews are plotting to take over the world. Since its contrivance around the turn of the century by the Russian, Okran- eh, Okranah, or Sara's secret police, the protocols of the learned elders of Zain has taken root in bigoted frightened minds around the world.
Starting point is 01:04:06 The book that's 24 sections spell out the alleged secret plans of Jewish leaders seeking to attain world domination. They represent the most notorious political forgery of modern times. Although thoroughly discredited, the document is still being used to stir up anti-Semitic hatred. Right? So just a nonsense propaganda written by Russians long time ago to stir up hatred against Jewish people and it still continues to stir up hatred and paranoia to this day.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Most conspiracy now to believe in diabolical secret society, small groups of Jewish bankers controlling the world, that kind of shit. Most of that stuff can be traced back to these debunked protocols of Zion propaganda. And this illustrates the dangers of all the bullshit misinformation that gets spread around on the web. It doesn't go away, right? It doesn't go away after it's debunked. The lies continue to be spread as truth.
Starting point is 01:04:53 So let's stomp on as many of those lies as we can. Often, 1927 Rosenberg publishes the future direction of German foreign policy, where Rosenberg urges the conquest of Poland and Russia, because those lands are Aryan lands, originally they're not. Part of the original Aryan homeland, and thus they should be restored, the proper ancient Aryan glory. Rosenberg's 1934 book, The Myth of the 20th Century, was a tedious exposition of German racial purity.
Starting point is 01:05:21 It was all that Aryan shit we just learned about. Everything you knew about German history is wrong, right? Here's the real truth. It was that kind of book. Rosenberg wrote about how the Germans were entitled to dominate Europe. It was their right. Their enemies were Russian tartos and semites. In addition to the Jews, Germany's enemies were Latin people and Christianity, especially
Starting point is 01:05:39 the Catholic church. Rosenberg's anti-Semitism and advocacy of Nordic expansionism gave a certain order and direction to Hitler's violent prejudices. At the beginning of World War II, Rosenberg brought a Vidcon quizzling, the Norwegian fascist into contact with Hitler to discuss the possible Nazi coup in Norway, and then the Germans did take Norway, taken the nation, and then the summer of 1940 controlling it until the end of the war. After the fall of France, Rosenberg was in charge of transporting captured works of art
Starting point is 01:06:07 to Germany from occupied territories. From July 1941 on, he was an administrator in the occupied Eastern territories. And at the Nuremberg trials for war crimes after the Nazis were defeated, Rosenberg was judged to be a war criminal and he was hanged and good riddance. Another player that we briefly mentioned earlier regarding border science, Gustav Kosinja, his book on German prehistory laid out the archaeological justification for the Nazi annexation of Poland. Kosinja was born in eight, Macon Gustav.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Gustav was born in 1858. It was a German archaeologist and ethno-historian. And unlike a lot of archaeologists and historians, he didn't seem to give too many fucks about facts. Educated as a philologist, someone who studies literary texts and written records in order to establish their authenticity, form, determination of their meaning,
Starting point is 01:06:59 and educated as a linguist at the University of Berlin. Gustaf was a proponent for Nordic thought. Crudely summarized as real Germans are descended from the pure original Nordic racing culture, a chosen race who must fulfill their historical destiny. No one else should be allowed in. Gustav's principal teacher was Carl Molinhoff, professor of German philology, specializing in German prehistory at the University of Berlin. 1894, the age of 36, Gustav made the decision to switch from prehistoric archaeology or switch over to it, introducing himself to the field by given a lecture on the history
Starting point is 01:07:34 of archaeology at a conference in Kostel in 1895. Gustav believed there were only four legitimate fields of study and archaeology. The historic study of Germanic tribes, the origin of the Germanic peoples, and the mythical endowed Germanic homeland, archaeological verification of the philogical division into east and west Germanic groups, and distinguishing between Germanic and Celtic tribes. So really, the only history that matters is German history, according to this dude. Gustav identified which geographical regions were originally Aryan and his findings were used to justify the expansionist policies of Nazi Germany. For example, Gustav asserted that face-earns found in Polish sites were part of a Germanic ethnic tradition, so Poland belonged to Germany and they should take it.
Starting point is 01:08:18 And since Polish people are easily confused, they were like, fine, sound good, we saw sorry. And they probably farted and cried and groaned and stuff. And then they were just, you know, they let the Nazi take their country. And of course that's natural. Ticket, that's Ticket. Gustav had begun reading writing and speaking about Germanic racist nationalistic theories way back in the 1890s. He was an avid supporter of racist nationalism long before the end of World War One or
Starting point is 01:08:42 even the beginning. By the late 1920s, Gustav had made a connection with that decade we talked about Alfred Rosenberg, the guy who'd become the minister of culture, the Nazi government. And because Gustav and many men like him, any German archeologist who did not now study the prehistory of the Germanic people
Starting point is 01:08:58 was and that alone and only was professionally derided by the 1930s, a German archeological society devoted to Roman provincial archaeology in Germany was suddenly considered anti-German. Its members came under attack. Archaeologists who did not conform to the new Nazi idea of proper archaeology saw their careers ruined. They were ejected from the country or left on their own or worse. Little side-travelled similar shit going on at the same time in Italy, Mussolini killed hundreds of archaeologists who didn't obey his fascist
Starting point is 01:09:30 dictates about what they were now supposed to study. Okay, here's the word fascist. That is showing Florida a couple years ago and I started making fun of flat earth believers a man stood up and called me fascist walked out of the show. No, not a fascist, just hate fascist ideas. And one of the hallmarks of fascism is promoting lies is truth. That's why I'm fascist against, you know, stuff like, you know, there has been flat against Aryan and ignorant, you know, false narratives being spread. I'm against the stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Most because I know historically what has happened when lies become pushed as truth and shick has taken too far, shit like this teal to do. There were many other players in the propaganda war of Aryan rights to the world as the master race, many were Hitler's officers. One was Hans Reynarth, another German prehistory archaeologist who succeeded Gustav as the head of the University of Berlin. Even classical composer Richard Wagner has some blame in all this nonsensical ideology. One of the Nazis biggest inspirations that stirred up the desire to find the Holy Grail
Starting point is 01:10:23 was a very interesting dude. We'll talk a little bit about today. Otto Ron. Poor Ron. His story is a sad story. He was a wackadoodle for sure, but he was like the least evil wackadoodle of today's tale. Weird dude who had no interest in Nazi ideology actually hated it. In fact, but really, really, really wanted to find the Grail and made a deal with a bunch
Starting point is 01:10:45 of devils. Now let's talk about auto-ron. Auto-ron was obsessed with the Holy Grail. Travel to Globe, looking for it, and other artifacts, Ron was an eccentric who wore a black fedora hat, has been described by many as the Nazi Indiana Jones. Many think he was the main inspiration for that George Lucas movie character, although Lucas himself has pointed elsewhere for inspiration, which I get. Probably not a good business move.
Starting point is 01:11:08 If you were to let the public know that you based a protagonist on a Nazi, you know, if that didn't even happen, you know. Who'd you model Indiana Jones after George? Glad you asked. I based him on this interesting and super cool Nazi dude, Otto Ron, really good Nazi, big fan. Next question, be a little awkward.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Otto Ron was born in a Meiselstadt, Germany in 1904, or Michelstadt. After earning his degree in philology in 1924, he traveled extensively to the caves and castles of southern France, researching his beliefs that the cathars with the last custodians of the Holy Grail. Yeah, buddy. Now we're getting to the grail shit. Yeah, yeah. The cathars were a sect grail shit. Ha, ha, ha. The cathars were a sect of Christianity
Starting point is 01:11:47 headquartered in Southern France, rejected corruption and earthly indulgences and by extension, the corruption of the Catholic Church. The sect accumulated a fair amount of power and influence until the 13th century inquisition wiped out the heresy of the catharsely leaving only ruins and rumors. The idea of two gods or principles, one good and the other evil,
Starting point is 01:12:06 was central to cathar beliefs. That didn't sit well with the monotheistic Catholic church, whose fundamental principle, of course, is that there's only one god. Cathars believed that there was a good god, and the good god was the god of the New Testament, and the creator of the spiritual realm, and then they believed that the evil god
Starting point is 01:12:21 was the god of the Old Testament. Creator of the physical world, who many catharses identified as Satan, inspired by the epic Percival, a medieval German poem from the same era about a dude who searches for the Holy Grail, Ron became convinced that the poem's author, a 13th century German knight, will from Vaughn-Eishenbach, had left clues in the poem about the actual Grails' actual location location and it pointed to Montseguer Castle and Longdok, a former cathar stronghold.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Ron didn't find the grail but his adventures in the cathedral caves of Longdok inspired him to write his first book Crusade against the grail. And this book gave Ron a new superfan, Heinrich Himmler. Also a big fan, yeah. I like when you write about the grail. It's totally real, right? Heinrich Himmler. Although, big fan, yeah. I like when you write about the grail. It's totally real, right? I mean, it's real, it's very real.
Starting point is 01:13:09 I know you want to find, I want to find it. Karl says if he finds the grail in the Zomagic Giants, we can for sure get the extra suns back from the shoes. When Himmler became powerful enough, he offered Ron the full financial backing of the SS, in exchange for the grail and Ron's loyalty. And conflicted as he was accepted him as offer Nazi party not a good fit for Ron he was openly gay politically liberal not anti-Semitic or racist in any other way basically his world view directly clashed with the main thrust of Nazi ideology but he really wanted to find the Grail and so did him learn. So Ron put his quest for this relic, relic ahead of his morals and join the Nazi party and the SS. When asked
Starting point is 01:13:50 how he could do this, he reportedly remarked to an incredulous friend, a man has to eat. What's the ice up? I'll still do a ton of him. Let down. Ron, of course, never found the Grail, but he did document his second Nazi-funded crusade to find it in a published travel journal called Lucifer's Court, a Heretics journey in search of the light ringers. Himmler, despite being disappointed, he still hadn't found the Grail fucking love the book or Thousands of copies for his men. Ron resigned from the SS in 1939 or tried to but like the mafia one doesn't get to resign from the Nazis. More on Ron's Unfortunate end in just a few minutes. One more wackadoodle to talk about now, and then we search for the grail and explain what the fuck the grail is even supposed to be.
Starting point is 01:14:31 One of the most important contributors to the occult nature of the Nazis and their quest to procure magical items is a woman who died in London two years after Hitler was born. One of the most influential wackadoodles of all time, one of the stars of our July of 2017 lost city of Atlantis suck, Madame Helena Blavatsky. one of the most influential Wacadoodles of all time. One of the stars of our July of 2017, lost city of Atlantis suck, Madam Helena Blavatsky. Let's take a moment to revisit this nut. We mentioned earlier in today's suck
Starting point is 01:14:52 and better understand her influence. Helena Blavatsky born on August 12th, 1931 in Ukraine. She died as I said in London, 1891 at the age of 59. Russian spiritualist who claimed to have psychic powers, highly influential author, more so in death in life Also the co-founder of the still in existence theosophical society Theosophical societies was self-described when it formed in New York City in 1875 as an unsectarian body of seekers after truth who endeavored to promote brotherhood and strive to serve humanity.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Ugh. I fucking hate it. How many whack-a-doodles consider themselves to be seekers of truth? Ah, I'm a true seeker. You want to see truth? Promote credible ideas. You fucking maniac. Learn how to think critically.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Defer to peer-reviewed experts when choosing which ideas you choose to spread. That's what I do. I don't pull all this historical data out of my ass. I find the most trusted sources I can and make sure that the scriptkeeper, anyone else who helps research these episodes does the same. Right, you wanna spread unprovable ideas like paranormal ideas, fine.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Not opposed to that with the right tone. You know, for God's sake, you know, do it with a tone of look. I can't prove any of this, but this is what I choose to believe. Or, you know, this makes sense to me, but maybe others wouldn't agree. That's what I do in my other podcast with the Queen of the Suck Lindsey, I can't prove any of this, this is what I choose to believe. Or, you know, this may sense to me, but maybe others wouldn't agree. That's what I do in my other podcast with the Queen of the Suck Lindsey, scared to death.
Starting point is 01:16:09 I can't prove ghosts or demons exist. I don't even know if I believe they exist. My thoughts vary almost daily. All I know is that I find the supernatural world very interesting. And you know, and I really like a good spooky story, love a horror story, love getting goose bumps in the chills. So I promote that show with the tone of, hey, not sure if the shit is real, but a lot of people swear that they've seen that, you know, encountered
Starting point is 01:16:26 these really scary, hard to explain things and that terrifies me and a lot of their stories, especially if viewed collectively, make it very hard for me to confidently dismiss the totality of dark entities. Others supposedly have encountered time suckers where I search for truth, right? I fail at various degrees and every suck is I'm fallible, fallible meat sack with limited cognitive ability, but I do my best to find the most accurate, accredited sources of information for each and every suck. I think this suck alone pulls from over 40 sources,
Starting point is 01:16:52 telling people that you know Atlantis is real as some kind of scientific fact that you know a lot of very specific details about to not recorded at all history of a place. Archaeologists do not think even fucking exist does not make you a truth seeker. Makes you a nut. Makes you at best someone who believes
Starting point is 01:17:10 that they have somehow received unprovable divine knowledge that defies scientific explanation. At worst, makes you a huge liar. Okay, give me a moment now. Well, I step down off my soapbox that I precariously balance on the back of my high horse. Yeah, I was trying to make God damn it.
Starting point is 01:17:26 It's trying to make a horse sound. I don't know where that sound came from. What even is that? I was trying to make, okay, fucking, can't do horse sounds. It's quote, family guys, Peter Griffin. You know, this stuff just, it cries my ears. It's religious thinking, taking past the point of, okay, I'm not sure I believe, you know, that I can't disprove it. So fair enough, if that's what you want to believe, and it's taken to the point of, okay, I'm not sure I believe, you know, uh, that I can't disprove it.
Starting point is 01:17:46 So fair enough of that's what, you know, you want to believe and it's taken to this point of like, it's a fuck out of here. There's no last city of Atlanta as you describe it. We know that. Okay. I'll share how she describes it later. At the age of 17, young Helena Han married Nikki for V Blavatsky, a Russian military officer, provincial vice governor, touched on that earlier.
Starting point is 01:18:04 They separate after a few months, and then young Helena was, you know, she's already becoming interested in the in occultism and spiritualism, and then she said, you know, she traveled extensively for years throughout Asia, Europe, and the United States. They said what she and the biographers claimed, as I stated earlier, most people think it's not true. 1873, she went to New York City. It does seem to be true. We do know she made it to New York
Starting point is 01:18:25 because she met and influenced a lot of people there. She met and became a close companion of Henry Steel Allcott, a philosopher and author. And in 1875, they and several other prominent people founded the Theosophical Society during a time in America, especially high society America, was real into this kind of shit. As we touched on and many sucks going back to one of my favorite tales thus far, the Harry
Starting point is 01:18:47 Houdini suck. Spiritualism, right? Big deal. People looking for all these answers in a lot of interesting places. We know that Helena began to write in New York City in 1877 her first major work, ISIS Unveiled was published. You can still buy it on Amazon. And you can read it.
Starting point is 01:19:02 If you have a lot of free time and you hate yourself. Her teachings are painful to read after just a few minutes, internet summaries way better in my opinion. You all the best details without wasting hours of your life. In this book, she criticized the science and religions of her day, asserted that mythical experience and doctrine were the means to attain true spiritual insight and authority. Basically, this message of ignore all of academia,
Starting point is 01:19:24 all other religions, listen to me. And one say answer and one automatic writing session, I can teach you more than any professor. Right. If she would have peaked in Southern California in the 1960s and not New York City in the 1870s, I think she would have for sure become a cult leader. At least she would have if she was a dude. Although ISIS unveiled attracted some attention, her society in New York City dwindled. I guess they weren't ready for her truths. Their third eyes had some eyelashes in them or something.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Maybe a nat got in their third eye. Maybe a speck of dirt. I hate it. Hate it when it's in dirt. It's on my third eye. And I can't see the truth anymore. In 1879, Blavatsky and her co-loonetic al-Kat go to India. Three years later, they established a Theosophical Society headquarters
Starting point is 01:20:04 near the city of Chennai, began publication of the Society's journal, The Theosophist, which Volvatsky edited from 1879 all the way to 1888. The society soon developed a pretty strong following in India. Sweet. Asserting that she possessed extraordinary psychic powers, but never proving that. Volvatsky during journeys to Paris and London was accused by the Indian press late in 1884 of concocting a fictitious spiritualist phenomena. What? What? Cue the cues of making up a bunch of weird shit?
Starting point is 01:20:33 Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. What? Her? No. After protesting her innocence while on tour in Germany, she returned to India in 1884, was met with an enthusiastic reception, bummer.
Starting point is 01:20:44 They wanted her back. But then in 1885, the London Society of Psychical Research declared her fraud good. Other wacky doodles think that she's too crazy, even for them. Soon after that, she left India and failing health. She lived quietly in Germany, Belgium, finally in London, working on her small meditative classic. The voice of silence. 1889, her most influential work, the Secret Doctrine, 1888. That was an overview of her Theosophical teachings.
Starting point is 01:21:10 It was followed in 1889 by another one, her key to theosophy, three books and two years there. Her collected writings published in 15 volumes between 1950 and 1991, then she died in 1891 at the age of 59. I should say republished, I guess, they're still out there, those are the ones at the age of 59. I should say repel, I guess, you know, they're still out there. Those are the ones in the 20th century.
Starting point is 01:21:28 And before we move away from her, check out what she taught people. I covered some of this in the lost city of Atlanta. It's definitely worth revisiting now, because it's so crazy. Like this is the kind of shit that influenced the other influencers of the Nazi party and their occult leanings.
Starting point is 01:21:42 These are some of the Atlantean secrets. Madam Crazy Pant shared in her book to secret doctrine that people still believed this day. And theosophical teaching that Lannis was a continent took up a significant part of what is now the Atlantic Ocean. It was massive. So you know, kind of weird, there's no archeological evidence. Almost like this shit was made up
Starting point is 01:22:01 before people knew how to map the ocean floor, you know, before the topographical mapping equipment available. Eventually Atlanta somehow broke off into seven peninsula is an islands. The main part of Atlanta and Sunk, a lot of people left migrated and formed several ancient civilizations in Africa, Asia, Europe, the Americas. And how long had Atlanta's been populated before it's collapsed? Just about four and a half million years. Four and a half million years ago, the Atlanta and people people migrated from a Lemurian sub-race, living
Starting point is 01:22:28 in Africa. Uh-huh. Remember the Lemurians, the aliens, the alien type people that some people to this day still think live inside of Mount Shasta, California? Well, the Atlantean people formed seven sub-races, the Crow Magnens, the Toltex, the Mongolians, right? The Atlantic people eventually become the Aryans. And for a long period of time,
Starting point is 01:22:46 Atlantis was ruled by the toll text and Sestres of the American Indians, right? Da. From a million years ago to 900,000 years ago, the civilization of Atlantis was at its height. This was the golden age of Atlantis. Life was good and Atlantis during the golden age. So good you guys.
Starting point is 01:23:02 The Atlanteans had a variety of modern luxuries, conveniences, at least as modern as the 19th century imagination can think up. Their capital city was called the city of the Golden Gates. And at its height, it had two million people. They had extensive aqueducts leading to the city from a pristine mountain lake. They had airships powered by the Vryll, the sweet Vryll. They could see two to eight people.
Starting point is 01:23:24 They had to have at least two. I mean, you can't, come on. They can see two to eight people. They have at least two. I mean, you can't, come on. You can't have one person flying in the Lantian airship. In Atlanta, some million years ago, you fuck away, you fucking crazy. That's dumb. That's exactly how you wreck an ancient Atlanta and flying car spaceship thing
Starting point is 01:23:36 and this never fully described. By drive flying it without a copilot. Come on, you can't do that, I swear. The Atlanta and the economic system was socialist like that of the Incas. Of course, yeah, I know I remember that. I get it. I'mantian economic system was socialist, like that of the Incas. Of course, yeah, I know I remember that. I get it. I'm in the cool kids' club, sure.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Wolfaski. Atlantians were the first people on Earth to develop organized warfare. They're military deployed for real powered air battleships. They contain 50 to 100 fighting dudes. It's very getting very battle-star galactic now. These Atlantian air battleships deployed poise and gas bombs.
Starting point is 01:24:03 They're infantry fired, fire-tipped arrows. Uh, wait, what? I'm sorry, hold on. They had flying battleships and gas bombs, but fought with bow and arrows. Ha! That part, it doesn't seem very well thought out. I'm pretty sure once you've advanced your military technology to the point of flying battleships and poise and gas bombs, I don't know, maybe you can ditch the boat, Aras.
Starting point is 01:24:25 The toll text lived on Atlantis, worshiped the sun and temples as grand as any of those in ancient Egypt that we have no archeological records of whatsoever. There were decorated and bright colors. So safe, our fearless seer, Blavatsky. The downfall, it gets even better. The downfall of Atlantis started when some of the toll texts began to practice black magic around 850,000 BCE. And why would they start practicing black magic?
Starting point is 01:24:47 Well, they got tricked, you guys. They got tricked by a dragon, by a dragon named, Civotat. Uh-huh. Actual fucking dragons, smart powerful dragons that could trick you into black magic. We're living on Blavasky's Atlantis. Because the dragons dirty fucking no good,
Starting point is 01:25:03 dragon gosh dang tricks. The toll-ticket Lantians became selfish and materialistic. That's what happens. Every fucking time when a dragon gets involved, people become selfish and materialistic. I've noticed that. I studied a lot of real history. And that's how the Teranians ancestors, the modern people, or its answers to the people, we now know as the Turkish people, became dominant in much of Atlantis now.
Starting point is 01:25:24 The Teranians, they kept practicing black magic became dominant in much of Atlantis now. The Tyrannians, they kept practicing black magic like a bunch of silly assholes. For a couple hundred thousand years, white magicians fought them. White magicians like the master Moria, old Moria, a master of ancient wisdom. This is kind of Jedi dude who ended up talking later to some of Madame Blavakis' fellow theosophists from the spirit world, which he was in India, and he told him a lot of this history. Well, this spirit dude thing guy incarnated one time as the Emperor of Atlantis in 222,000 BC to really fight these gosh darn black magic magicians. And these black magic magicians, well, they were hard to fight because they had built an
Starting point is 01:26:02 army of chimeras. Yes, chimeras are in the story now they had built an army of chimeras. Yes, chimeras are in the story now. I'm not making this shit up. This is actually what this Ding Dong wrote about. The black magicians used magical spells to breed human animal chimeras. They had an army of chimeras, creatures that had human bodies,
Starting point is 01:26:17 but had the heads of predators like lions, tigers and bears. And these motherfuckers would kill the white magicians and their soldiers and then not done. Then they would kill the white magicians and their soldiers, and then not done, then they would eat the enemy corpses on the battlefield, which is super fucked up and not cool, you guys. And a war between the white magicians and the black magicians and the chimeras and the dragons and shit continued for like thousands and thousands and thousands of years until the end of Atlantis.
Starting point is 01:26:39 The masters of the ancient wisdom telepathically warned their disciples the white magicians to flee Atlantis and ships while they was still time to get out before the big sinking. And then a bunch of earthquakes occurred Atlantis, not that long ago, 9,564 BCE. Recent enough for there to be a lot of evidence of this, but there isn't, but whatever. And this is the kind of shit that Madame fucking ding dong Kuku for chimera's wrote about. And she also wrote about the origins of the supposed Aryan race, and she was crazy, at least in the dedicated Khan artist type way. And the lady who wrote this shit influence later Wackadoodles, and those Wackadoodles influence the Nazi party. Heavily, now we can begin our quest for the relics. We've traced back the Aryan myth, right? We've summarized
Starting point is 01:27:20 the Nazi origins that were, you know, or, or, or, or, or, I'm sorry, we've summarized the Nazi origins that were, you know, or I'm sorry, we've summarized the Nazi organizations that were into all this kind of, like really out there, supernatural stuff. We've met a handful of the people who either inspired the search or were directly involved in the hunt for the mysteries of antiquity. Now let's get to the quest themselves. Yeah, yeah, fucking yeah! All right, the topic that was voted in
Starting point is 01:27:40 was the Nazi search for the Holy Grail. So let's start there. They only wanted the spirit of destiny and other crazy stuff. So much more crazy to go through. And I love it. First of all, the Holy Grail. So Himmler loved the idea of the Holy Grail.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Some historians assert that in his deranged mind, it will be the greatest of all, you know, kind of a cult, it will prizes to a religious relics to attain. He thought that if you could find it, it could grant him magic powers, including eternal life and health, huh? I'm guessing he thought that if he could get ahold of it, it could help him to be thrown Hitler probably too, you know, and become some kind of supernatural immortal Nazi fucking ice giant God King, whatever. So what the hell is the grail? Well, the
Starting point is 01:28:17 Holy Grail is traditionally thought to be the cup that Jesus Christ drank from at the last supper, and that Joseph of era, era Mathia used to collect Jesus' blood at his crucifixion. Something that Joseph was the uncle of Jesus' mother Mary, and Jesus' great uncle, thought to have been wealthy, possibly even a minister of minds for the Roman government. He'd become a follower of Jesus' teachings. He arranged to have Jesus' body taken off the cross, placing his own family tomb. You know, when Jesus died, the chalice or cup, which Joseph supposedly used to collect the fluids of the Holy Grail, believed by some to be the same cup used during the last supper. Some think that Joseph took the cup with him on his voyage to England, or on a voyage
Starting point is 01:28:56 to England, said, you have hidden it in a sighted glasston berry at the bottom of a deep well called the chalice well, or the blood well. And there's tons of other theories regarding where the grail might have ended up. And to be clear though, not certain that this cup exists or has ever existed, most historians think it has never existed. If it even if it did exist, not necessarily a cup, I mean, if you really want to get into it, there is no archaeological proof that Jesus existed outside of biblical sources, which doesn't want to get into it, there is, you know, no archaeological proof that
Starting point is 01:29:25 Jesus existed, you know, outside of biblical sources, which doesn't mean he wasn't real. 99.99% of the rest of the world at that time made no impact on the archaeological record also. So a lot of people who were real, you know, don't show up in any records. Throughout the years, the grill has been described variously as a dish, a subbarium, a chalice, a platter, a goblet, a stone, many more things, many literary works. Have portrayed the grail as possessing miraculous healing powers. We talked about the search for the grail and the legend of the King Arthur Suck back in
Starting point is 01:29:56 May, Suck 140. The origins of some sort of magical grail can actually be traced back to pre-Christian Celtic mythology in some way. As we learn in the King Arthur Suck, the quest for the Holy Grail made its way into written texts and Creighton detois, Old French unfinished romance, the story of the grail, or Percival, which was written about 1180 CE as we learned about, again, the King Arthur Suck, another French poet Robert DeBoren, further specified the Grail's Christian significance
Starting point is 01:30:28 around 1200 in his poem Joseph de Aramati, talking about Jesus' great uncle, citing the Holy Grail's origins at the last supper in Christ's death. So Noah's even talking about this thing until the end of the 12th century. And the legends about the Grail, yeah, they weren't written until what, over a full
Starting point is 01:30:46 millennium after Jesus's death. So Vegas odds that this thing is even real, pretty low, maybe not like one in a trillion. So as I mentioned a moment ago, some Arthurian tales claim that Joseph of Arimathea brought the grail to Glastonbury, England. Others believed that the Knights Templar, a medieval order that protected pilgrims traveling to the Holy Land, seized the grail from the Temple Mount during the Crusades and secreted it away. We talked about that in bonus suck 23 back in June last year, how people think the Knights Templar has stashed the grail someplace, possibly Roslyn Chapel
Starting point is 01:31:17 and Roslyn Scotland. Beautiful place. I'd love to visit someday, by the way. There's a ton of other theories of a variety of artists, historians and well-wackedoodles have speculated on and on and on about where the grail is, what it is for centuries now. Something the idea of the grail was made popular to Hitler through the music of 19th century German composer Richard Wagner, talk about that in a sec, something that Hitler had met with an occult this name, Walter Johannstein, an Austrian philosopher, Grail enthusiast, a Jewish man actually, who was also a believer in the legend of the spirit destiny and the holy, you know, aka the holy lance, believing to be the, uh, let the lance was the lance that pierced the side of Jesus as he hung on the cross.
Starting point is 01:31:56 The legend of their meeting, I say the legend because not all historians believe they did meet, is that Hitler had come to Stein's attention many years before World War II through an annotated copy of Wolfram von Eikenbach's or Echenbach's middle high German, a Thurian, grail, epic, parcival, which he stumbled across in a used bookshop and felt driven to know who this Adolf Hitler was. The two became a cult fellow travelers, despite one of them being Jewish in decades later, Hitler seized the Huffberg spear. As soon as the Nazis rolled into Austria and stole it away to a vault in Nuremberg, where it powered something, you know, the unholy forward march of the Third Reich.
Starting point is 01:32:36 Okay, now to Vogueir and his 1882 opera, Parsival. Vogueir recast the Grail legend through a vaguely nationalist lens, or at least one through which the coming ultra-nationalist could project their own hateful visions inast the Grail legend through a vaguely nationalist lens, or at least one through which the coming ultra-nationalist could project their own hateful visions, in which the Grail Knight, parcival, is a pure blooded Aryan who overcome the clearly-semitic clingser using the bloody spear. Unsurprisingly, he was allegory. Most historians don't think Hitler found any literal occult truth in this Vognore story, but he may have been a big fan of this legend and then helped promote this legend as truth or at least allow it to be promoted as truth
Starting point is 01:33:08 to rally the German people towards Aryan domination ambitions. Another grail tale would link the Holy Cup to Spain and that's allegedly where himler looked first, himler unlike Hitler for sure bleeding the shit. His baddest things were for Europe with Hitler and charge the Nazis man things would have been way worse arguably if the screwball Himmler would have been in charge. It is reported that Himmler made a wartime grail search at the month, Montserrat Abbey near Barcelona in 1940. And that place is gorgeous. Wasted a lot of time. Wasted a lot of research time. Look at pictures of this place. Holy shit, I love to visit.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Looks mythical. It's like this crazy looking place set in this cliff-riddled mountain. Machu Picchu kind of vibes. Maasurat is a place long shrouded in legend. Maasurat is a mountain near Barcelona. As long as regarded as a sacred, a magical place in 880 CE, it was said that a light floated down the mountain for six Saturdays in a row. When a search party headed by a bishop went to investigate, they found that the light fell on a previously undiscovered cave inside the cave completely intact
Starting point is 01:34:10 was a statue of the Virgin Mary, allegedly made in 50 CE, and the statue soon attracted pilgrims and monks and a monastery was eventually established in the mountain. Now, did that happen? I don't fuck, no, I don't think so. I think it's folklore. But, you know, cool story, bro.
Starting point is 01:34:24 And this time of place, full these type of legends, and that intrigued Himmler. Now did that happen? I don't think so. I think it's folklore. But cool story, bro. And this time of place, full of these type of legends. And that intrigued Himmler. Himmler enlisted Audoran, right? That morally conflicted Nazi, that Indiana Jones prototype, Grail lover, we talked about earlier, the man obsessed with the legend of King Arthur. Well, Ron went and looked, but he didn't find the Grail in Maasara. Probably because it's not real.
Starting point is 01:34:44 And Himmler was super bound it's like dude you know he's super bound wrong those batheels power but I haven't you found my grail it's gonna make me so happy I just found my grail run is very is it did you look in the whole castle did you search the caves what about in the in the basement what about in the attic did you did you look under the couch cushions or did you? Did you look at the couch cushions? Did you dig in all the couch cushions wrong? A lot of people think that the grayless probably
Starting point is 01:35:10 in the couch cushions, I'm so sad wrong. I hope you would not disappoint me this grayless again. It's like you don't even listen to Carl. Don't listen to Carl out of the run. Carl, tell him why he should listen. Mass potatoes. Ah, special power, sour. That's what the ice giant told me to look, get the couch cushion. Jive stone balls, the juice, hide the grill, and the cushion.
Starting point is 01:35:33 What's the goal? How is the goal? Go, go, go. See, as he gets the couch listened to Carl, he makes so much sense. He's a wonderful mind. Him or one is so bad. He wanted the superhuman power. He wanted immortality.
Starting point is 01:35:44 I get it. He was so confident, he would be found that he had a whole castle prepared in Foolsburg. uh... him or one of the so bad he wanted to pursue power so one of the mortality i can he was so confident it would be found that he had a whole castle prepared in fullsberg right for survival that i can cast a case in the basement there's a place for it come on run he's got a screw party already go the confetti's about to be popped everyone has the kazuz the cake has been baked the party hats have been handed out
Starting point is 01:36:04 only need is the grail uh... him there wouldn't get his grail in spain he and him there would uh... r i'm sorry you know uh... uh... auto wrong wouldn't find in spain hit him there would continue to look elsewhere that looking took into a not another nazi grail link a supposed map to the grail hidden in the gant alter piece uh... the gant alter piece is one of uh...
Starting point is 01:36:22 the twelve oak panels that comprise 15th century Flemish artist Jean von Eich's famous painting, Adoration of the Mystic Lamb. Often referred to as the Ghent Altarpiece, this massive monumental oil painting is one of the most influential paintings ever made. Most frequently stolen as well have been taken in its entirety or parts of it taken at least six times, which is quite a feat considering that altogether it's the size of a barn door. Barn door. A 14 by 11 and a half feet, weighing about two tons.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Not easy to take, but it's been taken highly coveted by Hitler. He took it during the war. The Nazis had actually had an art theft unit, or as they sought a cultural appropriation unit, the ERR, dedicated to taking back what they consider to be important area and artwork that have been held hostage by other nations who would forgotten who belong to. The Nazis found in the South of France where the Belgian government had sent up for safe keeping. Hitler had it restored, then put in storage, in assault mine, in the Austrian Alps, where
Starting point is 01:37:19 the 12,000 most famous stolen artworks from Nazi occupied Europe were also kept in secret. Destined to be featured in Hitler's planned super museum, which would be the size of a city and would display every important artwork in the entire world. Super dumb idea. Sounds awesome to be able to go to one place and see all of the world's most important artwork. Pretty bad place for a fire. One big fire all goes away. Let's never do that.
Starting point is 01:37:42 The iconography of the Ghent Ultra Piece is long fascinated scholars. The painting quickly became the most famous piece of art in Europe when it was completed in 1432. The first large oil painting to become internationally renowned, oil had been used to buy in pigments in paintings since the Middle Ages, but Jan Van Eik was the first to demonstrate the true potential of oils, which permit far greater subtlety and detailed and largely opaque egg-based tempera paint, which had preferred before the Ghent altarpiece, popularized oils.
Starting point is 01:38:13 The altarpiece contained over a hundred figures, and is an elaborate pantheon of Catholic mysticism. At its center stands a heavenly feel, brimming with uniquely depicted figures around a sacrificial lamb, representative of Christ, the adoration of the mystic lamb, in which the work draws the title. The lamb stands upon an altar and bleeds into a chalice, and that chalice is the Holy Grail. Hitler craves again to alter peace. Now, mostly because it was one of the most famous artworks in history,
Starting point is 01:38:38 it was a product of a German artist. It was made in a realistic northern Renaissance style that Hitler preferred, but also it had been forcibly repatriated to Belgium after World War I, before which certain panels of the alter piece had been displayed in Berlin. The Treaty of Versailles mentioned only four works of cultural heritage for most among them, the Gant Alterpiece. So it was symbolic in that way, right? Taken it back, helped avenge Germany's loss in World War I. It was a nice moral victory to take it back. Hitler wanted to correct this humiliation inflicted on the German people by the Treaty of Versailles. Recaption in Altarpiece would go, you know, quite a ways towards that goal.
Starting point is 01:39:13 And also he did think it might tell the Nazis where the grail was. Legend has that Hitler was convinced that the painting contained a coded map to lost Catholic treasures. The so-called armor Christie or instruments of Christ's passion, including the crown of Catholic treasures, the so-called Armacristi or instruments of Christ's passion, including the crown of thorns, the Holy Grail, and the spear of destiny. And Hitler may have believed that possession of the Armacristi would grant the owner supernatural powers. Himmler for sure believed that. At the very least, Hitler knew it would give the German people a huge moral boost, and
Starting point is 01:39:43 those items could help you know a ton, with some more, we are the best, we're the chosen people type propaganda. However, the altarpiece contained, of course, no map coded or otherwise. Hitler, him or the rest of the Nazis would never find the grail. It was just a big expensive failure to search for it. Himmler had invested heavily in Ron and Ron had failed. Himmertooker's revenge on Ron for his failures by making him a guard at one of the first concentration camps. Oh, Otto, I'm so very angry with you, Little Batty. I gave you so much money, I gave you so much time, I gave you all of Carl's very good knowledge. I bought you a really neat Fedora hat.
Starting point is 01:40:19 I got you a bowl whip, so you look so cool. I bought you a little jacket, a matching sassure, you're such a cool cat. And all I wanted in return was for you to find some magic items. That was just me some supernatural powers. I got the castle for all to never thing. And then you have to go poop with my punchball. So now I have to put you in the Zabataboy not a camp. Working at the concentration camp would mentally destroy
Starting point is 01:40:44 Adoran. He would write, I have much sorrow in my country, the bat about not to camp. Working at the concentration camp would mentally destroy Audalron. He would write, I have much sorrow in my country, impossible for a tolerant liberal man like me to live in a nation that my native country has become. And then on March 13th 1939, 35 year old Ron took a handful of sleeping pills, walked out into the Alps where he sat down and froze to death. Poor dude, hey to the Nazis, just wanted to find the Grail. I like to think that if he would have found it,
Starting point is 01:41:09 he would have run off, it'd given it to the Allies and not to him. I mean, why not? Let's believe it. So that's a search for the Grail, and you can see why I didn't make the search for the Grail the entire focus of the suck. We could have followed Ron's search exclusively for it,
Starting point is 01:41:22 but the travel crusade writings that he did are super boring, they're pretty boring. I mean, what was there for him to say, right? He didn't find anything. From here, there's 100 places we could go, and Nazis were all over the place, figuratively, literally. Let's look at the search for the spear next. 1973, a British writer Trevor Ravenscroft wrote, Spear of Destiny, the occult power behind the spear which pierced the side of Christ.
Starting point is 01:41:46 And it was based on the writings of Walter Johann Stein, the Jewish Austrian Grail Enthusias, who claimed to have met fellow enthusiasts, Adolf Hitler, long before World War I. In this book, Ravenscroft revealed how as a young and struggling artist in Vienna, Adolf Hitler had been captivated by a tour guide's tale of the Holy Lance, also known as the Hofburg Spear
Starting point is 01:42:05 or Spear of Destiny. And isn't that crazy, by the way, that the man who had grown to become known is one of the most evil dudes, if not the most evil dude in history, was once a struggling young artist, sensitive type, and Vienna. Right, you fucking all emo and shit.
Starting point is 01:42:18 He was 18, had a roommate, slept in, drank too much, read a bunch of weird books, worked on sketches and paintings of castles and buildings and landscapes and stuff. You know, it crushes on various girls. It's fucking weird. That guy would grow to become the fjaro of the Thadrak. The spear of destiny said to be one of the crown jewels of the Holy Roman Emperor's
Starting point is 01:42:38 used by Roman legionary Gaia's Cassius long anus to pierce the side of Christ at the crucifixion. This great gilded lands the guide told Hitler had been carried by Roman Emperor Constantine the Great, Frankish warlord Charles Martell and a litany of German conqueror kings emboldening them with supernatural powers. The gloriously overworked mess of steel iron and brass, the Hofburg spear is embedded with what is said to be one of the nails from the cross, capital to silver band, cloaked in gold sometime around the 14th century. It's a real thing. You can't look, it's on display in Vienna right now at the Hofburg Palace, part of the Imperial Treasury there.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Rulers did have it in their possession, but was it used to pierce Christ's side at the crucifixion? No. No, Sirius Scholar believes that to be true. Does it have magic powers? No, no, Sirius Scholar believes that to be true. Does it have magic powers? No, no, it does not. The story of the spirit destiny starts around 955 CE, Vienna's Hofberg spirit supposedly aided
Starting point is 01:43:32 the Holy Roman Emperor Otto I, Otto the Great, in his Slavic wars, and then by 1098 it's somehow relocated itself to Antioch in order to be discovered, discovered, beneath the cathedral by the men of the first crusade. I don't know what exactly knows how it got there. Only this particular spear of destiny was just an iron lump now, not ornate like the one on display. Supposedly, all that remained of the ancient artifact. Another version of this spear has lurked in an Armenian monastery since at least a 13th
Starting point is 01:44:01 century. Another version of this spear lies beneath St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican, haven't been taken from Jerusalem to Byzantium around the eight century, onward to Rome in the 15th century, losing its tip that is now displayed in Paris somewhere along the way. According to the Imperial Treasury in Vienna, the Hofstberg spear dates from the eight century,
Starting point is 01:44:20 while an independent chemical test in 2003 says it originates from the seventh century. So either way, seventh or eighth, hundreds of years too old to be the spear that cut Jesus. And actually, all records of all the possible spears don't begin until hundreds of years after Christ's death, highly unlikely that the grail or the spear or any other weird, buried in Oak Island by night's Templars type shit is real. Fuck the history channel and the promotion of this nonsense as if it is. Fuck an history channel and the promotion of this nonsense as if it is. Fucking history channel, right? Let's soapbox about them first.
Starting point is 01:44:48 Just a sec. History channel pushes legends about stuff like this for ratings, not because it has an interest in real history because it's not real history. The history channel used to pump out a lot of non-sensationalized historical programming, but it didn't rate well. Now it didn't rate as well as shows like the curse
Starting point is 01:45:02 of Oak Island, so it became a television tabloid. It's bummer. Now let's get back to the sensationalist, sensationalist, focus of this suck that at least I'm shitin' on. Himmler's group, such as the Anunnabi, sent expeditions all over the world to look for other mythical relics, an information that would promote Aryan pride
Starting point is 01:45:20 and legitimize their expansionist goals. Nazi's traveled to Tibet Tibet to search for traces of the original uncorrupted area and race and also to supposedly look for the Yeti, the bombable snowman. Some Nazi explorers actually brought back the remains of a Yeti. Or, what they say was a Yeti. It was on display at one point, according to a few sources in the Italian Museum, a genetic analysis on this thing found that some of the creatures teeth belonged to a dog. And the rest of his bones were from a bear. Ha, ha, ha.
Starting point is 01:45:50 Himalor thought that a Yeti could be a proof of a link between Aryans and the race of mythical ice giants. That I mentioned earlier. Are you sure it's just a bath? Is this some dog teeth? Carl was so sure it was a vice-paliety. Tell them about the vice-pollietti. Uh, Spice Verme, uh, Spice Verme, so the white-power-yetico,
Starting point is 01:46:08 Fruroom on a pril, Fruroom on a pril from a lettuce. So why power-yetti? See, Colonel Svatsis op was a, yeah, he has a genius, you know. I trust him implicitly with all of everything. Uh, Nazi's traveled Ethiopia and search of the arc of the covenant. Gold covered wooden chest with a lid described in the book of Exodus as containing two stone tablets of the Ten Commandments. Outside of biblical references, no evidence this thing is ever ever existed.
Starting point is 01:46:35 There's never been any other evidence found. This next expedition might be my favorite. Oh boy. Nazis traveled to Iceland to find an entrance to a magical land of telepathic giants and fairies called Thule. I haven't mentioned that. Himmler and most of Nazis breath. They believed that Thule was the origin, you know, place of the anarians. It was very real.
Starting point is 01:46:56 If you send a team of men to Iceland to find an entrance to a magical land of what power giants in fairies, you might be a Nazi. Holy shit, it's happened. Defend an entrance to a magical land of what power giants in Ferris You might be a Nazi Holy shit Happened I need you to go to Iceland and I do is there yesterday College college show that there's a tunnel there that believe you to the magic ice diens go not for the theater Oh, I've taken find the entrance of this place believed to be accessible via secret code Hidden the medieval Icelandic saga called the Edas
Starting point is 01:47:28 and the Nazis believed at least some of them believed that they might accelerate their Aryan breeding program. I think he gets some uh uh you know good old pure Aryan stock from the fucking Thule tunnel. And then they could recover their supernatural powers of flight to Lepathy, Telekinesis, you know that they believe their ancestors and Thule possessed, you know all that stuff lost to the left breeding with the lesser races God the shit is so out there. I mean think think about this in the sense that they had meetings about this right a budget had to be proposed Administrators eagerly awaiting to hear about you know what important giant centric discoveries Had occurred so that's what news do you bring me today of this giants? Obviously have you found any more of the caves in the Iceland?
Starting point is 01:48:06 That is fantastic. Or that is great. I mean, I can and did you hear about the caves? This is wonderful. The fear will be so happy. And what about the area in giants with some mind control powers and their ability to move the things with the white power minds and the flying and all that stuff? How epic would have been if they found the tunnel? They found through in Iceland. It did lead to a world of magical giants,
Starting point is 01:48:31 but then, uh-oh, the giants were Jewish. And they were fucking pissed. I didn't get that news back. Oh, this is terrible news. Carl, I'm so piv-t-t-t this in your teachings. This is the mother of all backfires Hitler. Hitler, we have we have found the giants. No, don't clap. Don't smile too much. Don't say yes, they can fly. Yes, they're very magical. Yes, they might control us, all that stuff. But not it's not happening. It's very sad. The thing is the thing is the ice giants are they are Jewish. No, not not not arian. No, not arian. Nine, not Aryan heads, do not kill the messenger.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Also the giants are quite fierce about the Nazi speeches and the Nazi laws and the whole concentration camps saying, you might want to shave the mustache, maybe play hide and seek for some time. The Nazis also of course obsessed with the land, various legends that tied the land to Aryan origin myths. One of these myths, a theory by religious scholar, Herman birth. Herman, he thought that he figured out why similar-looking symbols can be found in different parts of the world, right?
Starting point is 01:49:34 The answer, of course, Atlantis, was proposed as survivors of a sinking Atlantis fled to places, high places, you know, vowed to avoid the sea that ruined their civilization initially, and that's how the descendants of Atlantis ended up in the mountains of Tibet. That's how they eventually morph into yetis. All the pieces fit. They carried the ones. The numbers crunched out. During a Nazi Tibetan expedition in 1938, 1939, Nazi scientists collected thousands of specimens while comparing locals to a list of facial features and concluded that they indeed had descended from the Aryans. I mean, they didn't, whatever. Himalor and his anthropologist thought that by measuring people's skulls, you could tell which race they were.
Starting point is 01:50:10 You can't declare that the indeed had found out what happened to Atlantis was a big boost to the mis-fueled Nazi war machine. It became convinced that Tibetans were survivors of Atlantis. This hardened Himalor's views on racial purity, right? The Aryans had dispersed around the world. They made it to place like Tibet and Germany. This exhibition helped him towards his decision that the Aryan master race was now weaker due to inter-mixing,
Starting point is 01:50:32 needed to be purified, cue the Holocaust. And obviously more went into the decision for the Holocaust than that, but it did play a part. There were other endeavors to link ancient people to the Atlanta, Atlantic and Aryan myth. Similar efforts to find Aryans were dispatched to Sweden, Scotland, France, Iceland. As I already mentioned, the Nazis believed that India
Starting point is 01:50:52 also ceded by the Aryans. One German archeologist, eventual SS commander Edmund Kiss promoted the idea that Bolivia's famous historical site, to Winnaku, a pre-Colombian site high in the Andes, roughly 200 miles from the Pacific Ocean was Atlantis. Okay, I thought Atlantis was where the Atlantic Ocean is if that we went through this and now it's on the other side of South America and still a long ways from the Western coast of that continent. It's almost like the shit is gibberish. Commander Kis believed in the elaborate
Starting point is 01:51:21 and outlandish world ice theory which had the support of Adolf Hitler. According to the theory, Earth at some point clad out the moon and that led to the destruction of Atlantis and an ice age. Trying to survive their new glacier-filled reality, ancient Atlantians believed were believed to have fled to the high andes where life could still survive somehow. What in the fuck? This provides such a great example of why science is so God's important, why education is so important. So the world doesn't end up being led by complete idiots, who think that in the event of an ice age, when there's glaciers in the world is super cold,
Starting point is 01:51:56 it somehow makes sense to move up an elevation, where it will of course be colder and more iceier. Kiss' work found enthusiastic support in Germany. He wrote statements proclaiming that the works of art and the architectural style, the prehistoric city is probably the creation of Nordic men. Who arrived in the Andean Highlands as representatives of a special civilization, goddamn it.
Starting point is 01:52:17 Nazis published these findings at Hitler youth publications, other party newspapers, right? Great reminder, why the freedom of the press is so important. So we're not being force fed in sane, fucking gibberish that just serves the powers that be. Himmler sponsored another kiss expedition of Bolivia, but it never materialized to the start of World War II. The Nazis also looked for an entrance into a possible hollow earth.
Starting point is 01:52:40 Uh-huh. We covered hollow earth theory in an episode of the second early one. Number eight, we talked about six US president, John Quincy Adams, considering funding and expedition to look for mole people living in the center of the earth. The hollow earth theory, popular at various points in 19th century, still considered possible by the Nazis, right? In the 20th century, still considered possible by some wacky doodles today, proposes that the planet earth is entirely hollow.
Starting point is 01:53:04 Inside earth, there are oceans, an internal sky, an internal sun, mountains, all kinds of shit. There's multiple variations of this theory. Some versions have a race of beans living down there. Some have multiple races living inside the earth. I fucking mole people, old Vikings, giants, reptile dudes, doodets, Nazis. Some of the Nazis believe that the entrance to the hollow earth was located in Antarctica. And some conspiracies today, conspiracy theory or conspiracies, there we go. That's the word I like. Today believe that the Nazis went down there, found the entrance, built a base, and now a bunch of them live inside the hollow earth with the mole people, and the lizards, and all that shit. And spoiler alert, it's
Starting point is 01:53:43 all true. It's all real. Uh, no, of course it's a lie. The persistence of the Nazi ice fortress myth actually prompted Colin Summerhase, a marine geologist oceanographer at Cambridge, to take the step of publishing a peer reviewed paper, disproving the idea that the Nazis have an ice base that leads to the hollow earth in 2017. He did an academic study and be like, you guys, stop it. Why do conspiracies believe this stuff? Well, because of a legendary Nazi mission,
Starting point is 01:54:11 about how they went on an Antarctic expedition in 1938, 1939, when Carl Donets, the guy who had become the president of the Nazis for about three weeks after Hitler killed himself before the Nazis surrendered, a man who was then a naval admiral did brag about witnessing an invulnerable fortress, a paradise-like oasis in the middle of eternal ice. Well following a meticulous look through Nazi records, summer haze found no mention in any of the German documents of any intention to establish a base during the expedition, nor that any attempt was made to do so at any time afterwards. The expedition was only off the Antarctic coast for a month, most of which was dedicated to mapping out this small area.
Starting point is 01:54:50 The Donets claim he saw some mythical base. Yeah, he did, but there's not been any evidence to back up this claim. I'm guessing he was lying because he felt pressure to tell Hitler what Hitler wanted to hear, right, or what him that I wanted to hear. And that's his belief in the possibility, even more weird shit they funded research to explore like telefreeding, dowsing, astrology, witchcraft. Himmler founded the SS Witches division, which collected evidence in Eastern Europe that Tutonic, aka German wise women, the Tutons, an ancient order of people generally classified
Starting point is 01:55:22 as Germanic, had been persecuted and burned in what Himalor considered to be a Jewish Catholic Inquisition plot against German culture and blood. I fucking throws the Jewish people into the Inquisition. What the fuck? The Catholics did that. Come on. The Nazis even looked to the prophecies of Nostradamus for helping defeating the Allies. We looked at Nostradamus way back in time, so the 40 as the catalog grows, so did the
Starting point is 01:55:44 connections. I love it. Hail Nimrod. 1939 propaganda master Joseph Goebbels set up late at night, raiding the prophecies of Nostradamus, which he revealed to an enthusiastic furor as evidence that the British were going to be defeated. The Nazis did even crazier shit. This next one is especially bananas and not bananas in the super, super sexy kind of way. The British relied primarily on radar to find German U-boats.
Starting point is 01:56:07 The German Navy decided to one up them and use one of the members of the IOW, the Institute for a Cold Warfare, Ludwig Stonjak, a member of the Institute. He was a German mystic who was also a pendulum dowser, which is a thing I did not know about. Over a large map of the Atlantic Ocean, a one inch model battleship was moved about. This has all been witnessed by a bunch of like top Navy generals as Ludwig swings a metal diviner on a string above the map. While these melodies not to be admittable as you know like watching, if the pendulum dousing device would react over the toy ship,
Starting point is 01:56:44 this would of course indicate the presence of a genuine British battleship. The Nazis convinced themselves it was a totally normal thing to do and that it was how the British were finding their eubotes, which they were not. The Nazis also looked to astrology to help win the war. After Italy's dictator, Benito Mussolini was toppled and arrested, operation Mars was launched. Forty experienced astrologers, tarot card readers, magicians and dauzers were released from concentration camps and installed in a via and Berlin's, uh, wanna see under the leadership of top magician, Wilhelm Wolf. They were ordered to find out where Mussolini was being held prisoner.
Starting point is 01:57:20 Uh-huh. And a fucking team of magicians. I didn't find the Italian leader. It didn't work. Of course, it didn't work. SS general Schellenberg would later complain, these magicians cost the SS a pretty penny. They're demanded and they got huge quantities of luxury food, alcohol and tobacco before they could even start to work. Large map of Italy was unrolled. Dependent of Dousers would just fucking swing around the map and an attempt to find the Italian dictator and the end SS commandos
Starting point is 01:57:49 working with other Nazi troops did find Mussolini, they rescued him, they rescued nothing to do with information put forth by these weird magicians. I just keep, I keep picturing like these ridiculous Nazi magicians, or I guess, you know, I guess they were in concentration camp, so they didn't want to be part of this program, but these weird magicians saying stuff like, ala, penis, bata, sandwich, presto, chango, wacko, smaco, I know, pulled bonito out of my hat. Oh, God, give me a second, Himor.
Starting point is 01:58:15 I must have said the words in the wrong order. Carl, why haven't the Zemnatsu magicians found the bonito guy? This is also very disappointing. If you don't find the ice dance, we don't find the magic. Jesus' car, we don't find anything cool. Carl, have you not been taken your special good-bye medicine, Carl? Carl, you're a school.
Starting point is 01:58:36 That is the way you talk about the potato so much. This is so unfortunate. I've bested my whole life on the teachings of a crazy person. So in conclusion, the Nazis believed in a lot of weird shit, more than the Holy Grail, more than we listed today. Basically, they looked into anything they could think of, real or imagined, science-based or strictly folklore and legend-based, that they thought could help them take
Starting point is 01:58:56 over the world. And if they would have taken over the world, scariest part to me about all this, is they would have taught future generations that a lot of the shit they looked into was not wackadoododle and hair brain. It was science. Scariest thing I learned this week is how the Nazis rewrote history to incorporate so much
Starting point is 01:59:10 of this crazy shit into this weird Aryan, Aryan origin story. It's not remotely true. Thank God the Nazis searched for the Holy Grail Atlantis, Thule, Ice Giant, Spirit Destiny, Aryan Yetis. All sorts of the crazy shit came to an end when they surrendered to Allied forces on May 7th, 1945 after Hitler killed himself, after he finally realized that the Aryans were not in fact supreme enough to keep the Americans, British, Russians, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders and more from kicking the fucking shit out of their evil regime. Also I should say that while Himmler certainly super into this stuff, there were other Nazis,
Starting point is 01:59:44 Hitler and many other Nazi higher-ups not fighting primarily because of a belief in some occult based feeling of destiny. It was just part of a much bigger puzzle. Himmler didn't consult with all the Carl quite as much as I joked about either. I'm sure many, if not most of them, were fighting mostly because of nationalistic pride. They just wanted the same power that conquers of Crave throughout all of human history, but how weird, right? All this other strange context around it. How strange is the dedicated money to this stuff?
Starting point is 02:00:11 What a good reminder that people in charge are not necessarily rational or sane or good people? Gotta always keep an eye on the people running the government. Don't want to let a Hitler or him or type get too much power ever again. keep an eye on the people running the government. Don't want to let a Hitler or him or type get too much power ever again. I hope all you meat sacks were as entertained by all of this as I was. And we live in a strange world. Let's take a look back at the strangest we covered today in today's top five takeaways. Time, suck, top five takeaways. Number one, a lot of people contributed to the ideals of the Aryan myth that arguably
Starting point is 02:00:47 launched all this other Nazi tom foolery, right? From the teachings of the 19th century Russian crackpot, Madame Lovatsky, of the Theosophical Society to other, you know, zealous and super racist archeologists like, or archeologists like Alfred Rosenberg to a cold group, like the fool society and more Hitler and Himmler didn't make the shit up. You know, these ideas were put out there by the teachings of other wackadoodles, always watch out for wackadoodles. Number two, Heinrich Himmler was fucking maniac.
Starting point is 02:01:18 He believed in most of this stuff, possibly all of it. He had a castle prepared for the arrival of the Holy Grail. He wanted to popularize a new German religion based around Aryans having God-like powers. Number three, Himmler and other Nazis thought that ancient Aryans did have God powers and that mixing with other races ruined that. Holy shit. Number four, the Nazis before the war ended were starting to teach some of their rewritten history as real history.
Starting point is 02:01:45 Areans are not the supreme race because there is no Aryan race. There is just a big mixture of races that can all be traced back to being part of the same human race. All different shades of the same meat sack. Number five, more grail info, the search for the mythical holy grail has long fascinated humanity. It continues to Monte Python and the holy grail of 1975, British comedy classic in the UK readers of Total Film magazine in 2000 ranked it as the fifth greatest comedy film of all
Starting point is 02:02:13 time, full of tons of memorable characters such as the Knights who say, need, way out of the Knights to say, need. Dan Brown's crazy popular book, The DaVinci Code, also revolved around an interpretation of the Holy Grail, where this time the Grail is not a cup, but a tomb containing the bones of Mary Magdalene and Mary Magdalene and Jesus were lovers and their descendants are guarded by the Priory of Sion. Another thing that's actually not real. The third Indiana Jones film, Indiana Jones and the last crusade involves the Grail and
Starting point is 02:02:41 Nazis and a castle. Indiana finds the Grail, heals with it, uses his healing powers. I think if you watch a rewatch this movie after today's suck, you're going to get a lot more out of it. Uh, finally, people are still looking for the Grail in real life, you know? Recently in 2014, some ding dong's claim to have found it. Two Spanish historians, Magerie Titores and Jose Ortega del Rio claim to have found the Grail, identifying it as a 2000 year old vessel in a church in Leon in northern Spain.
Starting point is 02:03:08 The parents spent three years studying the history of the chalice and published a book The Kings of the Grail making their case. The Onyx chalice, they explained, was concealed within another antique vessel known as the Chalice of Dona Uriuca, located in Leon's Basilica of Saint Isadora. And the historian said it had been there since the 11th century. He said, this is a very important discovery because it helps solve a big puzzle, one of them told the Irish times. We believe this could be the start of a wonderful stage of research.
Starting point is 02:03:36 The duo had been researching the history of some Islamic remains in the Saint Isadora Basilica and then they discovered two medieval Egyptian documents that mentioned the chalice of Christ, or so they claim. The parchedments told a tale of how Muslims took the sacred cup from the Christian community in Jerusalem to Cairo. It was then given to an amir on Spain's Mediterranean coast and return for help he gave the Egyptians who were suffering from a famine at the time. The story and his research, even allegedly, has been backed up by scientific dating. That's what they would claim. You know, estimating that the cup in question was made between 200 BCE and 100 CE, right?
Starting point is 02:04:10 It fits the timeline. Then the scientists would admit or these archaeologists would admit that the first 400 years of the cup's history would remain a mystery. They can't prove the chalice ever actually touched Christ's lips, but they insist there's no doubt this is the cup that Christians reveal is the chalice used in the last supper. Saying the only chalice that could be considered the chalice of Christ is that which made the journey to Cairo. And then from Cairo to Leone and that is this chalice. That's what Torre has said who teaches medieval history at the University of Leone. However, countless scientists and historians who have pursued the Holy Grail say that this is not
Starting point is 02:04:47 true, right? Sounds cool, but medieval historians have been very quick to point out these guys are lying. Reminding people that you can't find what doesn't exist. Again, no one even mentioned the Grail in 12 to 12th century. So despite this new cool story of Float Run on the Web, when you really look into it, most people think it's just a forgery. Nice try, guys.
Starting point is 02:05:06 The Nazis never found it, and neither did you. Time suck, tough, five take away. The Nazis search for the Holy Grail, sucked Holy Atlantis. What the fools would we just explore? I hope you're entertained. I don't know timeline in that one. It was a different kind of episode. I really enjoyed it. I hope you did. A big thanks to the time suck team. Thanks to Queen of the suck, Lindsey Connus. High priest is the suck Harmony Vellacamp, Reverend Dr.
Starting point is 02:05:33 Paisley. Big thanks to the Bidelixer app design crew. More big thanks to the merch artist, formerly known as the spicy club, Axis the Parallel and the Scriptkeeper Zach Flannery. I thought Zach did a great job setting me up for this one to give me a lot of stuff to build on really structuring it in a great way. Next week, uh, more Nazis. I know it's a lot for December, but while we're thinking about them, let's look into the tale of some real brave Jewish folk who fought the fuck back against the Nazis, the tale of the Warsaw ghetto, a tale based and actual truth.
Starting point is 02:06:02 And it's inspiring uprising shortly after the German invasion of Poland in September 1939, and yes, we're headed to Poland, I am sorry about that. More than 400,000 Jews in Warsaw, the capital city were confined to an area of the city, little more than one square mile in size. In November 1940, this Jewish ghetto was sealed off by brick walls, barbed wire, arm guards, anyone caught leaving was shot on sight.
Starting point is 02:06:25 The Nazis controlled the amount of food that was brought into the ghetto and life became hellish, but there was life, and there was still hope inside. From April 19th to May 16th, 1943, in the midst of World War II, residents of this Jewish ghetto staged an armed revolt,
Starting point is 02:06:40 armed more with insane bravery than actual weapons to prevent deportations to Nazi run extermination concentration camps. The Warsaw uprising inspired many other revolts in extermination camps and ghettos throughout the German occupied Eastern Europe and we get to learn about it next week. And right now we get to see what's cracking in the cult of the curious. of both jangles. This is a bit long, but I hope you can find the time to read it. My name is Connor, Rochelle. And my dad got me into time, so I can have been, we've been listening ever to it ever since. Just finished the suck on killdozer. I have lived in Colorado for almost my entire life and heard this story many times over. All different varieties and
Starting point is 02:07:35 how it was viewed after listening to this suck and hearing more of the fine details of how those whole situation developed and how it went down, I do feel some sympathy for Marvin due to how he, you know, gets screwed over, he got it times with the apartment complex, other deals he made. But since he didn't take the 500,000 he got from the property and go on and have his good life, since this suck has opened a lot of views to his story and how he was in the hero,
Starting point is 02:07:58 don't have any sympathy for what he ended up doing. One more thing, so I don't make this too long and it's about the privacy on the shopping list. You brought up during the interview. I agree with you that we should be monitored to an extent. I feel like certain things you buy online and high quantities such as chemicals or explosive substances should be reviewed. And people should be able to see if any other suspicious things are being bots. But at the same time, we should have our privacy to buy what we buy. Like you said, this is a hard topic to talk about. The privacy in our lives is hard to figure out. What is okay? When is it okay to intervene? When is it not okay? Let's get along now. Thank you for your hard work with these sucks. Help me get through some hard times.
Starting point is 02:08:36 Hail Nimrod Cheers Conner. Thanks Conner. I'm glad you got some extra info out of the story about Marvin Heemire in the Kildoser situation. And yeah, thanks for just bringing up the, you know, that topic of privacy versus safety again. It is a tough one. I don't, I don't know. I still haven't heard anybody like give the answer that's like, yes, that's what we gotta do.
Starting point is 02:08:56 Exactly that. It really, really is tricky. But like you said, yes, certain, certain things. I do think should be like red-flact. You know, like if my neighbor suddenly is is buying the exact ingredients You would need to make like a ton, you know, 2000 pounds worth of you know pipe bombs I would like him to be you know, maybe someone's checking on him Maybe someone's talking to him and if he answers the door, you know talking like Carl
Starting point is 02:09:22 You can't get the ice chines we gotta go boom boom boom make it down the ice chines. We got it, you got to go boom, boom, boom, make it down to the ice chines. And then we'll find that's when the area is fucking, come out finally. You know, I would want that to be monitored. But also do appreciate my privacy. Tricky, tricky, tricky. I got a nice little shout out for kickass Facebook moderator and kickass meat sack. We love her. Your time's like Liz Hernandez from a space that's her mic who writes, hey, damn suckers. If you read this and decide to put it in a time sucker update, of course, feel free to use whatever names and content
Starting point is 02:09:51 you feel is appropriate. Don't want to upset anyone, but I was encouraged to throw this your way since you might enjoy it. Real quick, I want to thank you again for the gathering experience this summer. Had a wonderful time meeting you, your family, your team and some of the awesome lizards. Speaking of awesome lizards,
Starting point is 02:10:04 some of us have had a couple of group chats still going where we banter around and share our experiences. Those group chats happen to include our beloved Liz Hernandez. Earlier this evening, I sent a clip of triumph, the insult comic dog making a hilarious cameo burn on David Tell from the crowd during one of the show's days was hosting a few years ago. Liz responded that she loves triumph below is the conversation that followed Liz. I love triumph. Me that she comes as a surprise to no one wink. Liz, now what the fuck do you mean by that? Laugh my ass off. Me. You like roasting people in the joking sense. Hopefully not the real act of roasting people or else you're going to end up being an episode of Time Suck. After writing that, I immediately had some
Starting point is 02:10:43 fan fiction time suck popping to my head, hearing your voice along with the traditional music of the intro. Today, we're going to talk about Liz hot lunch Hernandez. Former friend of the cults that curious until her dark past was illuminated by the fire lights she used on other victims. Small and stature, but not small and hunger, Liz used her wit and non-threatening appearance to lure her prey into the horrific demise of being roasted for her pleasure. We're going to be talking about how she turned humans into s'mores on the hot, well done, super crispy addition of Time Suck. This is Michael McDonald and you're listening to Time Suck.
Starting point is 02:11:18 I hope that made you, uh, but made you laugh, Mike. Hope you, hope you liked that. Uh, that was so nice. Thanks for, uh, for writing and thanks for giving Liz a shout out. She is the best. And I love trying to insult comic dog as well. You sent in the nice message for him to poop on a commons law update now coming in from spaces or James Moore. Dear, he who sucks on a high wanted to share an example of commons law. I work overnight in a factory that builds jet engines. It's allowed bordering on needing hearing protection environment where I always, you know, where, you know, hearing protection. A rule change required me to stop wearing headphones and use portable
Starting point is 02:11:54 speakers to listen to things that work. Everyone works fairly alone. Huge machines are controlled by single operators. I have a reputation for people walking up and asking what the fuck. I listen to podcasts, stand up audio books, heavy metal, depending on my mood. The funniest thing happened a few months ago. My supervisor, a very sweet lady who recently had her first grandchild came to ask me a question about something while I was listening to the Ed Kemper suck. She looked terrified. When I turned around, she tapped me on the shoulder. It was, I turned around when she tapped me on the shoulder. It was, I turned around when she tapped me on the shoulder. It was right as you were explaining how she liked to, how he liked to pleasure himself with severed heads.
Starting point is 02:12:31 I no longer listen to serial killer sucks at work. 45 minutes commute, so I listen to them on drives too and from. Keep on sucking, master sucker. Well, sorry, James. I bet that was a little awkward to explain some neck fucking to someone not in the coat. And I get why she probably told you, no more of that. We're not going to be doing that out loud anymore.
Starting point is 02:12:51 I love hearing about it. Awesome message coming in now from an anonymous sucker. Ryan Taden just a quick positive message couldn't help but share. I'm a member of a very supportive and wonderful, albeit anonymous online addiction support group. Recently during a chat session, one of my friends in the group used a phrase, oh my heck. I took the chance and asked, times like fan. And upon confirmation, a new space-reserved bond was formed. I just wanted to share with you how happy it made me and hopefully him, yes, it is
Starting point is 02:13:18 a him to find a fellow space-reserved, even in the most random and neat corners of the world internet. It may seem silly, but especially as an addict, that small bond made me feel really, really good and connected to something bigger. If you wouldn't mind, please give a big shout out to my friend, Flouge, and wish Flouge a happy IWNDYT. I will not drink with you today. It would mean a lot to me, and I hope him, Hail Nimrod, Begon Lucifina, and Hail Fluege and the rest of the community for being my friends and being there for me, even though we've never met. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you, master sucker.
Starting point is 02:13:53 Well, happy I will not drink with you today, Fluege. And thank you, awesome anonymous meat sack for sending that message. I'm so glad you found a greater sense of community with what we're doing here. Very happy about that. Now we gotta shadow people update. From spooked sucker Andrew Wilson, who writes,
Starting point is 02:14:10 Hail the August Lord of the Suck. To start, I'm usually not a superstitious person, but after hearing both updates and your time suck about shadow people, I'm a little freaked out. I wake up sometimes rather violently between the hours of two and three a.m. Which I've just recently learned
Starting point is 02:14:24 was referred to as the witch hour. And I've thought to have seen shadow silhouettes in corners of the room, always figured it was just my imagination. Recently though, an experience with one of those silhouettes has me disturbed. I woke up in the middle of the night from a terrible nightmare and saw next to me in my bed what I thought was my girlfriend, yyyyck, sitting up beside me. I kept looking at what I thought was my girlfriend, yiiick, sitting up beside me. I kept looking at what I thought was my girlfriend for a couple of seconds before asking her
Starting point is 02:14:49 if she was okay thinking I'd scared her. Oh boy. Well, my girlfriend sleepily answered she was laying on her side on the other side of the bed. Mind you, I have a California king. I turned towards the sound of my girlfriend's voice and then back towards the silhouette and it was gone. What's entirely unsettling is how the shape wasn't across the room and it couldn't have
Starting point is 02:15:08 been mistaken for anything else. It was right next to me and extremely humanoid in figure. Thank you kind of for sending that in, Andrew Wilson. I did a little more research about shadow people and I wanted to pass this information along. When you see a figure sitting next to you in bed like that, you have no more than three days left to live. So just enjoy what time you have. That thing's definitely gonna kill you,
Starting point is 02:15:33 like for sure, from everything I've read, there's not a chance, there's nothing you can do. Next update, I didn't read that. Oh, that would be terrible if I didn't read that to pass that along. Now that's fucking scary as hell. And I hope that never happens to me and I hope it never happens to you again.
Starting point is 02:15:47 Eek! Now with thoughtful update, you should check out Scaradodeth if you haven't though. If you, why not? You're already scared, just get even more terrified. Listen to the other horror podcast. A thoughtful update now coming in from born again, sucker, Robert Griggs.
Starting point is 02:15:59 Robert, I wanna call him Bobbert. Now says, and this is the last update for today. Dan, thank you. your family and your staff for taking the time to make this podcast. I've been a fan of your standup for quite some time and I was excited to find out that you had an informative podcast. On the type of list, I'm just starting to episode one.
Starting point is 02:16:14 I made it to episode 71 and started to notice a slight decline in content enough to make me take a break. I'll listen to a few other informative podcasts, but they were just about as much fun as listening to someone read VCR instructions. I don't even know where you find VCR instructions now. Smithsonian maybe?
Starting point is 02:16:29 Regardless, it took a break for a while. When I decided to try to reengage, I scrolled through and saw an episode 100 Drunkest Fucks Suck of the Axement of New Orleans. Wasn't sure what to expect, but I wasn't disappointed. I liked the unconventional nature of the episode. It was informative, but it was still a celebration. I appreciate that your guest co-host helped you, helped your drunk ass state on topic just enough.
Starting point is 02:16:50 Moreover, the discussion you and Lindsay had brought up regarding the numerous bonus episodes and how taxing it had been, it made sense the aforementioned slight decline was due to you working yourself's death. If I may weigh in, I would much rather have fewer better episodes that you are proud of, rather than volumes of content that draws you closer and closer to hating the whole endeavor. I'm excited to reinvest in the quality curious. Appreciate the work you're doing. Even more so now, given the change of perspective, that level of honesty and vulnerability made me realize the humanity behind the product I was consuming so casually. Pologize for being so flippant with
Starting point is 02:17:22 something you're killing yourself to create. I still have a year and a half of catching up on insane ramblings coupled with well research information. I'm looking forward to it sincerely. Robert A. Great. Well, thank you, Robert, for sending that in. Yeah, you know, this show is tricky. It's a tricky mix of business pressure, artistic interest, it kind of makes it all run. You know, yeah, sometimes I think like, man, maybe it'd be kind of fun to take weeks off here and there.
Starting point is 02:17:47 That's hard to do because of sponsors and because of staying top of mind and just kind of the business thing. There's a lot of content out there. And it is important to kind of stay in people's earholes if you don't want them to find I guess other products. And then honestly, I like the challenge of doing it every week. And I'm afraid that if I got away from a weekly format, that then I would hesitate too much, start to doubt things.
Starting point is 02:18:09 Like, if I didn't have that hard, kind of quick deadline, then I would overthink every single episode. So I do, I do think the weekly thing is the way to go. And I can still do it with other things. I've been working on, you know, really getting more efficient. It's so nice now that the listeners have been supportive enough to help us on Patreon and spread the show so we can, you know, get more advertisers, which then allows me to hire a team and then train a team to help take a lot of the load off of my plates, which makes it possible to put out more content more
Starting point is 02:18:37 constantly and not feel overwhelmed. I'm definitely staying up too late here and there sometimes still, but getting better, it's getting more, less frequent than it used to be. Easily, and I think it's going to get even more, less frequent this next year, and I am getting more passionate about this because I sense it too. I don't want to burn out doing something like this and make the thing I love, the thing I hate. So, yeah, so that was nice for me to reflect on because you sent that message and I'm
Starting point is 02:19:03 glad you noticed that you know, did try to kick up the quality, not be burnt out. And then also, you know, it is, I will just say it's going to bounce around just human nature. You know, I'm not a robot either. So you know, there's going to be weeks. Yeah, we're on more times. On the weeks, that more going on in my life. I'm going to be naturally more interested in certain subjects than the others.
Starting point is 02:19:23 But I do definitely try and just, you know, put as much passion as I can into this every single week and I love doing it every week. So thanks to you and all of you for listing every week. Thanks for appreciating what we do here. I know there's a lot of other things you could choose to listen to. So thanks for not fucking doing that. He'll never not do you guys. Love it.
Starting point is 02:19:43 Thanks, time suckers. I need a net. We all did. So I hope to have a great week, everyone. Talk to some of you, at least tomorrow night, this is scared to death. I took two space lasers on Thursday. Don't waste time looking for the soul giants, or Atlantis, or the aliens, or the squarches. As Carl did not help me find them at all, it's very frustrating. I think it's just focus on keeping on with
Starting point is 02:20:11 the sucking most of all. We found it. Look! Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht.
Starting point is 02:20:31 Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht. Wir haben es gemacht.
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