Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 174 - Bizarre Mental Disorders

Episode Date: January 13, 2020

Boanthropy. Capgras Delusion. Alien Hand Syndrome. Clinical Lycanthropy. We go over a variety of rare and unusual mental disorders today and also give an overview of how we meatsacks deal with mental ...health and how many of us are dealing with more common mental disorders. I also give some insight into my own unusual thoughts and try to illustrate how, in some way or another, we are all "crazy." Hail Nimrod! Check out Lynze and I's new horror podcast Scared to Death. Listen on Spotify, Stitcher, iTunes, Youtube, and more! Here's the iTunes link: https://apple.co/2MRMgai We're donating $4,000 to the Tim Tebow Foundation's Night to Shine. To find out more, go to https://www.timtebowfoundation.org/night-to-shine-host-information 2020 Toxic Thoughts Tour Standup dates: http://dancummins.tvSacramento, CA Jan 23 - 25 Punch Line CLICK HERE for tix!Las Vegas, NV Jan 30 - Feb 2 Jimmy Kimmel's Comedy Club CLICK HERE for tix!Brooklyn, NY Feb 8 The Bell House CLICK HERE for tix! Washington DC Feb 9 The Improv CLICK HERE for tix! Huntington Beach Feb 14-16 The Rec Room CLICK HERE for tix! St Louis Feb 20-22 Helium CLICK HERE for tix! Listen to the best of my standup on Spotify! (for free!) https://spoti.fi/2Dyy41d Watch the Suck on YouTube: https://youtu.be/8Kk9qtJvmy4 Merch - https://badmagicmerch.com/ Want to try out Discord!?! https://discord.gg/tqzH89v Want to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Here it is: https://www.facebook.com/groups/cultofthecurious/ For all merch related questions: https://badmagicmerch.com/pages/contact Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcast Wanna become a Space Lizard? We're over 6000 strong! Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcast Sign up through Patreon and for $5 a month you get to listen to the Secret Suck, which will drop Thursdays at Noon, PST. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. You get to vote on two Monday topics each month via the app. And you get the download link for my new comedy album, Feel the Heat. Check the Patreon posts to find out how to download the new album and take advantage of other benefits.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Bizarre mental disorders, a bizarre topic that I had a blast with this week. It's fascinating in a time sobering sucks subject will take us all over the mental health map from a lot of strange dietary choices to a number of unique delusions that may or may not be officially recognized by mental health professionals. We're going to go over some pretty staggering statistics on mental illness and we're going to learn about some of the most common mental illnesses, plus some of the most controversial, we'll dispel some stupid and some not so stupid myths and we'll take a trip down the old time suck timeline and explore a brief history of mental health.
Starting point is 00:00:34 And we're gonna get weird, so weird. And have some laughs. I'm gonna take you deep into my own wackadoodle noodle and reveal how truly crazy I am. We've all got our shit. So let's get into this deeply cranial, highly cerebral and super instructive excuse for me to make some dark jokes about some strange and rare diseases of the meat sack mind in this mental health. Don't pretend that you're not will be staying to time suck.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Happy Monday, Meat Sacks work can still wait. It's time for Time Suck. Hail the great Nimrod, praise the powerful Lucifina, bow down to Good Boy Bojangles and be delighted by the sweet soothing sounds of triple M. Dan Cummins, the master sucker, the mush mouth king, random knowledge slut and you are listening to time suck. The new stand up tour almost here, toxic thoughts tour kicks off a week from this weekend in Sacramento, California, January 23rd to the 25th, at least one show already sold out.
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Starting point is 00:02:45 Also, thank you for allowing us to donate $4,000 this month to the Tim Tibo Foundations night to shine on behalf of the space lizards hail Nimrod The our lady queen of peace church and graph the nohio hosted a night to shine on February 7th Thanks to our donation these Ohio kids gonna have the time of their lives night to shine a special prom night only for kids with special needs, age 14 and up. 2020, the fifth annual event hosted over 600 churches where kids get picked up in limos, treat it like kings and queens. They get to wear fancy dresses and suits, get their pictures taken, walk in on the red carpet. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Find out more, go to timtebofoundation.org and night to shine. Host information is one of the sub little menus. And thanks as always for the great ratings and reviews online. So it's very motivating to make me want to like, you know, do the best job I can here. And now it's topic time. This week's topic chosen by the Space Luzards is part of their duty to interpret and follow Nimrod's will. Usually the Space Luzards tasked with voting on, you know, two topics per month, but during the last voting cycle, there was a tie, and I was decided by Nimrod that, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:50 the space-litter's we're gonna pick back to back topics and they're killing it. So let's get mental. What even is mental illness? I don't know, because I am for sure not mentally ill on even a small level. I mean, come on, this is me we're talking about. Johnny normal, Danny stable, sir sucks a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Thousand percent for sure, I am super duper sane. Mind is in tipitop, keep, keep, yeah, hell, Nimrod's shape. Ask anyone who's ever spent a lot of time around me and I am definitely not super moody or prone to constantly thinking dark and inappropriate thoughts Definitely not extremely paranoid sometimes and who told you I was paranoid by the way So I'm gonna fucking tell you what someone's talking were they okay? I can feel it I always make super solid decisions barely have a criminal record
Starting point is 00:04:37 I will for sure be allowed back into Canada sometime soon and I didn't even set that many dumpster Fires, you know or open field fires near houses as a teen And I didn't even set that many dumpster fires, you know, or open field fires in your houses as a teen. I even only dragged one recliner out of my living room in college and burned in the yard and almost burned down the entire house because I put too much charcoal on it. I know I'm saying because I only fucked one banana peel in a bathroom in high school, you know. It's been probably four years since I cut myself to see if I could handle the pain.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I've only jerked off on the woods to scraps of old porn omags, handful of times. I only let one ex-girlfriend shove some stuff in my butt because it quote, seem fair. I only have one large breasted life size naked mannequin in my office right now and don't even have that many posters on the walls of my office of discussing serial killers. And I have recorded no more than maybe three hours tops of standard material where I openly talking great detail about wanting to murder strangers. And I haven't fantasized about wanting to be a real life dirt bag killing dexter type serial killer in a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:05:31 And like so many other definitely not mentally ill people, I have to have music turned on around me at all times or I feel tense and angry. And the sound of someone eating potato chips in a quiet room makes me want to start punching holes in the walls and or set something on fucking fire. And like you, other sane person, I am greatly sued by analyzing statistics. I have checked the stats of NFL, major league baseball, the NBA, you know, players, current and historical, literally every single fucking day for at least a few minutes for over 20 years.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And I very much like to do things in threes or life feels chaotic and incomplete. You get it. You get it. So why am I sharing all this with you? To point out that while I've never taken any mental health diagnostics to see if I technically have some kind of mental health quote unquote issue, I also have a life resume full of questionable decisions
Starting point is 00:06:20 and definitely feel crazy in some ways. Everyone I've ever seriously dated has joked about me for sure being crazy like every single person. Gosh dang, oh my heck, mother, my zapples are getting on fire. But seriously, some people for sure think I'm nuts, and I bet at least one person, even if that person is you, thinks that you are nuts. And one way or another, we all have our shit.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I mean, what does normal even mean, really? It's subjective. So keep that in mind with today's stock. For what is worth, if you've been diagnosed with some type of mental health condition or mental disorder, I don't think that means you're necessarily, you know, crazier than me or lots of other people.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And when I joke around about this stuff, I'm not making fun of you personally or I don't think you are anymore fucked up overall than I am. All that being said, today we'll be talking about some more extreme mental health disorders, just like someone who's extremely physically handicapped has to work a lot harder in some ways than the rest of us to accomplish some of the same things.
Starting point is 00:07:14 So do people with severe mental disorders. And I feel worse in some ways for people with extreme mental disorders than I do for people with extreme physical handicaps because you can see someone not having legs. You don't expect someone without legs to just walk around on their own. You don't get annoyed when they're taken to a long cross in the street. Just come on, buddy.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Come on, move it along. I mean, you don't feel that way unless you have an extreme mental disorder. The real problem with mental illness, mental disorders is you can't see it. You can't touch it. You can't touch it. You can't always visually see that someone's brain is wired a bit differently than yours. And because of that, I feel like it can be a little easier to get mad or frustrated or
Starting point is 00:07:53 discuss to with people with mental disorders and adopt this attitude of like, come on, knock it off. Come on. Don't do that, act right. Which is terribly unfair because they can't make their mind, for example, you know, stop feeding them delusions any more than someone with no legs can pop up out of a wheelchair and just fucking win a hundred yard dash So while we're gonna learn some stuff today, we're gonna have some laughs I hope we also gained some understanding which leads to some extra tolerance and compassion
Starting point is 00:08:17 So cool. All right cool now back to my initial question What is mental illness? Here's a fairly broad stroke definition. Mental illness is a health condition involving changes in emotion, thinking, behavior, or a combination of these. Mental disorders are associated with various degrees of distress and or problems, functioning in social work or family activities.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Mental health professionals want to stress that mental illness is nothing to be ashamed of. It's a medical problem. Just like heart disease or diabetes. Also, if you want to take a mental illness is nothing to be ashamed of. It's a medical problem. Just like heart disease or diabetes. Also, if you want to take a spiritual or religious view, have a mental illness, all that it means is it God hates you. Not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:08:52 God hates a lot of people. He doesn't like you, so he put less knives in your drawers and the most other drawers. You put less cards in your deck. Of course, that is not a common spiritual or religious view. I don't think so. I hope not. I JK. Mental illness is very common. Knowing that is not a common spiritual religious view. I don't think so. I hope not, I JK.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Mental illness is very common. Knowing that is important. Knowing that it's common helps destigmatize it. Having a mental illness is not a sign of weakness. It's something that afflicts all kinds of people from all kinds of different walks of life. Here's some data to prove what I'm talking about. Data, one of those words, I just wanna call it data.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I wanna do both. Here's some data data. Here's some data data. One of those words I always want to call it data, want to do both. Here's some data data. Here's some data data. Several studies have shown that about one in five US adults 19% experienced some form of mental illness. On top of that, one in 24 people, 4.1% has a serious mental illness defined as a mental behavioral or emotional disorder, excluding developmental and substance abuse disorders, resulting in serious functional impairment, which substantially interferes with or limits one or more major life activities.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Examples of serious mental illness include major depressive disorders, gets a freinia and bipolar disorder. Also, one in 12 folks, 8.5% has a diagnosable substance use disorder, which is a type of mental illness. Some brains aren't able to handle alcohol, for example, the same way that other brains can. And then there are all the people
Starting point is 00:10:10 who may not consistently suffer from mental illness, but do experience some type of mental health issue, or episode, from time to time. While accurate numbers are obviously very hard to come by globally, the worldwide estimate according to the United Nations is that one in four people will experience a mental health issue in any given year. That's obviously a lot of people. Other studies showed that almost half of U.S. adults, 46.4 percent will experience some type of mental illness during their lifetime. Just like you can be physically healthy, most
Starting point is 00:10:40 of the time, and then you can get cancer or shingles or have a heart attack or if you're back go out, et cetera, et cetera. You can also have your brain go out in some way from time to time. A lot of people live with some form of mental illness. Current studies indicate that somewhere between 1% and 2.8% of adults in the US live with some form of bipolar disorder. And while percentage-wise, that might not sound like a lot. That's anywhere from 3.72 million to 22,
Starting point is 00:11:08 sorry, 22 million, they can't be right. It's anywhere from 3.72 million, I did some funky math there. That is not right, I can re-correct it right now. To almost 10 million people, I don't know where the hell it's 20, that's my own mental disorder. Around 9% of people in the US live with major depression, almost 30 million people. About 11% of children have a mood disorder and about 10% have a behavior or conduct disorder.
Starting point is 00:11:31 About 26% of adults experience homelessness and shelters live with serious mental illness. Around 24% of state prisoners have a recent history of a mental health condition. And one more stat before going forward, according to a number of studies, the LGBTQ community, two to four times more likely to experience mental health issues than the non-LGBTIQ population. Maybe there's a lot of questionable diagnostics that have been done surrounding the LGBTQ community. Mental health stats for this particular population, a little bit controversial, and we'll talk more about that later.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Basically, to sum up all the data, you're more likely to experience mental illness than you are to develop heart disease, diabetes, or any kind of cancer. So, if you think you're a little bit nuts and futs, yeah, you're probably right. Hey, Elizabethina. Now let's talk about treatment.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Sadly, only around 40% of people thought to have a mental disorder receive professional healthcare or other treatment, which is a huge bummer. Because in most cases, mental illness is often very treatable. So you got to do what you got to do to put those clowns back in the car. Fast majority of individuals mental illness continue to function their daily lives. Studies show that 70 to 90% of people who seek proper treatment for mental health disorders see a significant reduction in symptoms. So, who is most likely to suffer from mental illness?
Starting point is 00:12:56 Important to say again that mental illness does not discriminate. It can affect anyone regardless of your age, gender, geography, income, social status, race, ethnicity, religion, spirituality, sexual orientation, background, or any other aspect of cultural identity. However, there is one demographic subgroup meant to almost does seem to affect a little more than other groups. And this guy's with tiny, tiny, weenuses, the already vulnerable micro-pean populations, studies have shown that grown men with little tiny baby dicks are three to four inches Sadder than other guys that joke coming hot
Starting point is 00:13:32 Sorry just three to four just sadder than other guys maybe laugh some idiot JK There are surgeries out there if you're truly worried about penis size by the way the air piss who can help you learn to accept it Actually not kidding about that What is big deal? So it's tiny, maybe it's limp as well. Go get help. Do not go full cheek until and try and stop and hate come way back to happiness. Do not try and wrestle away anger or major depression.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Thanks, you could deal. But there is a population more susceptible to mental illness than any other, there is one. Polish people. According to psychiatrist, all Polish people are extremely mentally ill. Double JK, Polish people are not more likely to be mentally ill because they're not people. They're stupid angry monsters.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Trouble JK. Just dumb joke throughout my wife. I'm done for a bit now. Now the younger you are, the younger you are, the more likely you are to experience an onset of mental illness, that one is true. While mental illness can occur to anybody at any age, three-fourths of mental illnesses do begin by the age of 24. So rest easy for 25.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Mental illness takes many forms. Some are mild, only interfered in limited ways with daily life such as certain phobias, aka abnormal fears. If you truly have cool refobia, for example, you'll be fine as long as you don't go to the circus, watch the movie It, or have someone send a birthday clown to your office.
Starting point is 00:14:47 If that happens, your intense fear of clowns is going to cause you to maybe quite literally lose your shit. That's yeah, cool refobia, I think is how you say that. Other mental health conditions are not so situational. It can be severe enough that the afflicted may need to be placed in a psychiatric hospital. There are so many different kinds of mental illnesses, just like there are so many different kinds of physical illnesses. There are 265 different mental disorders listed
Starting point is 00:15:10 in the DSM-5, the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders, not counting various illness modifiers, like various little subsets. The DSM-5 is the handbook used by health professionals to help identifying diagnosisacinosis illnesses. The fifth edition came out in 2013. And why are there five editions of this diacinostic manual? Because just like how the understanding of physical ailments has changed over time,
Starting point is 00:15:36 so has the understanding of mental health. Before we go into the more rare or bizarre disorders, let's first look at the main groupings of the more common mental disorders. And then at some examples of the most common forms of mental illness, finally look at some of the more controversial disorders, just get a better understanding of mental health in general.
Starting point is 00:15:55 There are seven major groups of disorders. There are mood disorders, such as depression or bipolar disorder. There are anxiety disorders, various forms of anxiety. A third group is called personality disorders, anti-social, paranoid, borderline personality disorders, a fourth group is psychotic disorders, like schizophrenia, eating disorders,
Starting point is 00:16:16 is a fifth group such as bulimia and arexia. There's also trauma related disorders, such as post-traumatic stress disorder. Another group is substance abuse disorders, recently brought into include gambling disorders, and there are even music disorders for people who feel compelled to play, you know, really, really terrible music like this. Ha ha ha ha! Hey kids!
Starting point is 00:16:40 Mental illness is very real! My doctor said to have a special form of LCD! Obsession was cut in candy's dancing! Ha ha ha! Come on! The acronym of Obles works even if the joke does it! A subset of this busiest order is known as ABS or Air Banjo Syndrome. Characterized by pretending to play, made up instrument known as the Air Banjo,
Starting point is 00:17:01 often over the top of super shitty music. Pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, and of course the real disorders stop, the group stop before the made up music disorder at substance abuse disorders. Okay. Now that we all know what the main groups are, let's look at the most common mental illnesses. I probably have some mental illness that has something to do with wanting to do the jokes I do. According to data collected by numerous mental health organizations, here are the eight most
Starting point is 00:17:42 common mental conditions. Depression. Upwards of 350 million people worldwide deal with depression. Also women are nearly twice as likely to men as to be diagnosed with depression. Now does that mean that women get depressed more often than men, not necessarily, might just mean that men are much more reluctant to seek treatment. There's also all sorts of different levels to how severe your depression might be. There's the lowest level known as the shut the fuck up to cry baby level. That one doesn't show up in the DSM-5 or anywhere else because I just made it up, but it
Starting point is 00:18:13 feels kind of real to me sometimes. One not made up severe type of depression is persistent depressive disorder. A chronic type of depression, also known as dysthymia. Dysthymic depression can interfere with daily life extensively because it's a combination of depression being intense. They can last for a long time. Yeah, a combination of the intensity and just long lasting. People with dysphemia experience symptoms for at least two years and about 1.5% of American
Starting point is 00:18:39 adults experience dysphemia each year. Sounds like a motherfucker. But what even is depression really? I think most of us have a vague sense of the feeling of sadness. Let's define it a bit more properly since we're here. Uh, depression is often characterized by loss of interest or pleasure, general sadness, feelings of guilt or low self worth, difficulty falling asleep, eating pattern changes, exhaustion and a lack of concentration.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And depression is simply the result of imbalance brain chemicals. It's not just a lack of enough serotonin as it's often depicted, so you can't always just take some pills to make it go away. Rather, several forces such as genetics, life events, medical problems, and medications can combine to bring on this illness. And it's most severe form depression can lead to suicidal thoughts and worst suicidal actions. The most effective treatments for depression is cognitive behavior therapy or psychotherapy and in some cases also taking anti-depressant medication.
Starting point is 00:19:34 The least effective treatment for depression that I am aware of is getting repeatedly kicked in the dick and or pussy while the person kicking you yells, sad kicks for the sad baby! Sad kicks for the sad baby. Sad kicks for the sad baby. I'm guessing. Now, did I say that I'm not a licensed therapist earlier? I feel like I should point out that I am not a licensed therapist. Another form of depression is experiencing a MDD
Starting point is 00:19:57 or major depressive disorder characterized by feelings of extreme sadness or hopelessness that lasts for at least two weeks. This condition is also known as clinical depression. People with MDD may become so upset about their lives that they think about or try to commit suicide, about 7% of Americans experience at least one major depressive episode each year. Now, let's talk about another very common form of mental illness, anxiety. It is not uncommon for a person experiencing depression to also have anxiety and vice versa.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Anxiety is tricky because anxiety can be a normal and often healthy emotion. However, when a person regularly feels disproportionate levels of anxiety, they can cross over into becoming a medical disorder. Like if you're feeling really anxious because your spouse is going through your phone and you've been texting with someone you're having an affair with, yeah, you're supposed to feel anxious in that situation. Not feeling anxiety in that situation could speak to mental illness. You're like, you might truly be a sociopath.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Feeling super anxious to go outside because you're worried you might run into someone. You don't know when they might say hi to you and you're afraid you won't say hi back the right way. So you decide just to stay locked in your house. Well, now we're probably talking about mental illness. Anxiety is the disorder that affects 40 million adults in the US or 18.1% of the population every year to varying degrees. It develops from a variety of factors, including genetics,
Starting point is 00:21:12 brain chemistry, and life events. While it is the highly treatable illness, only 36.9% of those who live with anxiety actually seek out and access treatments, and this may sound really stupid. But I do wonder for a lot of people who suffer from anxiety don't get treatment because the thought of getting treatment ironically makes them feel very anxious. Doesn't that suck? Anxiety disorders form a category of mental health diagnosis that lead to excessive nervousness, fear, apprehension, and worry. Common anxiety
Starting point is 00:21:40 disorder is GAD, GAD generalized anxiety disorder. GAD goes beyond regular and everyday anxiety, like being nervous before a presentation. Cause the person to become extremely worried about many things, even when there's little to no reason to worry about them, like the example I made a moment ago. Those with GAD may feel very nervous about just getting through the day. They may think things just aren't going to work out in their favor. Sometimes worrying can keep people with GAD from accomplishing basic tasks and chores, like going outside to get the mail because you're worried you might run into someone you don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Right? That whole thing I just laid out and GAD affects about 3% of Americans every year. Another common anxiety disorder is social anxiety disorder, also very prevalent. Social anxiety disorder sometimes called a social phobia is defined by an extreme fear of social situations. People with this disorder may become very nervous about being judged by other people. People who wear mesh tank tops and capri cargo pants and white tube socks with black crocs, it's nice restaurants are much more likely to suffer from this disorder since people are definitely judging the shit out of them. But seriously, this disorder can make it hard to meet new people, attend social gatherings, and approximately 15 million adults in the US alone experience social anxiety each year. Another common mental illness is bipolar effective disorder.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Someone who has bipolar effective disorder will experience both manic and depressive episodes, sometimes bookended, sometimes featuring moments of normal or stabilized mood. And this illness impacts approximately 60 million people to varying degrees worldwide. And no idea was that common. A chronic form of mental illness that affects about 2.6% of Americans each year. Mariah Carey, Mill Gibson, Demi Lovato, Russell Brand, Brian Willstone, the Beach Boys, Ernest Hemingway, Turner Broadcasting, and CNN Founder Ted Turner, Catherine Zeta Jones, Frank Sinatra, just a few of the many famous people who suffer
Starting point is 00:23:31 or have suffered from bipolar effective disorder. Manic episodes can feature elevated or irritable mood, hyperactivity, inflated self-esteem, and a lack of desire to sleep. Depressive episodes are often characterized by feelings of extreme sadness, hopelessness, little energy, and trouble sleeping. And while the cause of bipolar is not entirely known, a mixture of genetic, neurochemical, and environmental factors, let's play a role in the progression in the progression of the illness, which can be treated, usually very successfully through medication and counseling. It's very important to seek treatment if you have bipolar disorder due to a dramatically
Starting point is 00:24:04 increased risk of suicide. In a study from Denmark spanning four decades, 8% of the male bipolar patients and 5% of the female patients eventually died via suicide compared to 0.7% of the men and only 0.3% of women in the general population. That's a huge difference. Another common and brutal form of mental illness is schizophrenia. Schizophrenia impacts roughly 23 million people worldwide, characterized by distortions in thinking, perceptions,
Starting point is 00:24:34 emotions, sense of self and behavior. Those who have these illnesses can experience hallucinations and delusions starting in late adolescence or early adulthood, making it difficult for people to work, study, or interact socially. Yeah, I bet. Hard to focus on that final, if you hear a voice telling you that Hitler is still alive
Starting point is 00:24:53 and hiding in your sociology professor, and the only way to expose him is to fill your backpack with 100 beanie babies that open their eyes and become alive the second you close the zipper. Not having control of your own thoughts here and a voice inside your head that truly feels foreign, how terrifying. Dimension is another all-too-common and frightening mental illness. Dimension is generally chronic or progressive in nature and entails a deterioration of cognitive
Starting point is 00:25:19 function beyond normal aging, impacted about 50 million people across the globe. From memory, orientation, and thinking, to comprehension, calculation, and language, the decline in cognitive function is generally met with degrading emotional and social control, emotional and social control. A dementia is caused by a variety of diseases that impact the brain. There's currently no cure available, but there are treatments designed to ease the suffering and confusion of the suffer. Another well-known disorder that affects millions of Americans and millions more across the globe is OCD Which is not obsessed with candy's dancing now it's obsessive-compulsive disorder OCD causes constant and repetitive thoughts or obsessions
Starting point is 00:26:00 They thoughts happen with unnecessary on and unreasonable desires to carry out certain behaviors or compulsions Many people with OCD realized that their thoughts and actions are unreasonable Yet they cannot stop them more than 2% of Americans are diagnosed with OCD at some point in their lifetime And I looked over some OCD case studies online and I know finding some of them hilarious May mean that I am mentally ill, but I did laugh at this one them a hilarious may mean that I am mentally ill, but I did laugh at this one. Ms. X is a 21-year-old undergraduate studying accountancy who has been distressed for the past few weeks by some disturbing thoughts. She has thoughts of slapping her friends for no reason when they study together and also has mental images of them indulging in sexual
Starting point is 00:26:38 acts. She finds these thoughts and images to be repulsive and disturbing, but they continue to be intrusive and difficult to resist. She's even more distressed when she goes for her regular prayers. She will have sudden impulses to blaspheme the name of God. She is afraid that she might lose control one day and shout blaspheme in public. I just keep picturing this poor young lady talking to her therapist. And what recurring thoughts do you have when you're studying with your friends, Sarah? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. It's's, it's okay, Sarah. You're in a safe space. What, what do you think about when you're studying with Rachel and Janelle? I want slaps, those stupid bitches! I want slaps, them in their faces!
Starting point is 00:27:18 Good, Sarah, good, this is good to talk about. And what else do you want to do to, to Rachel and Janelle? I want to eat their pussies. I want to slap those goddamn bitches and eat their pussies. Forgive me, father. How mentally ill would it make me if this anonymous woman's OCD thoughts turn me on? Asking for a friend. Another very common DSM-5 defined mental illness
Starting point is 00:27:39 is insomnia assigned to individuals who experience recurrent poor sleep quality or quantity that causes distress or impairment in important areas of function. Some of the criteria for an actual insomnia diagnosis is difficulty sleeping occurs at least three times a week and is present for at least three months. And the problem cannot be attributed to substance use or medication. Okay, one more. PTSD. According to the American Psychological Association, 70% of adults in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:28:05 report experience in some type of traumatic event, at least once in their lives, and 20% of those people go on to develop full-blown post-traumatic stress disorder. PTSD affects 7.7 million adults, or 3.5% of the U.S. population. And that one's a, that little is from a few years back. So now it would be, you would be closer to like more like 9 million. And it affects a much higher percentage of veterans. Studies have shown that roughly 15% of Vietnam veterans and up to 20% of operation enduring freedom veterans suffer from PTSD. So those were some of the most common mental illnesses.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Now before we look into some truly bizarre mental health disorders, let's look at some controversial mental health issues. Because mental health can be a touchy subject, to say the least. The stigmas that come with being diagnosed as having a mental disorder can be almost as harmful to a person's well-being as the actual illness itself. Stigma often keeps people from seeking treatment. The stigma can often lead to drugs, alcohol, eventually yelling at no one in particular in front of the Starbucks at the intersection of Santa Monica and Bundy and West LA and
Starting point is 00:29:07 pooping on the sidewalk. I went to that Starbucks for years when I lived two blocks from that Starbucks and I saw what severe untreated mental illness looks like every time I would go there, like every time. We have friends from that area trying to move right now out of Southern California mainly because of the staggering number of mentally ill and drug addicted homeless people in the area. It can definitely be a little unnerving, legitimately scary when a large mentally ill man is throwing up the sidewalk towards you speaking absolute gibberish on two different occasions,
Starting point is 00:29:34 occasions within four blocks of my apartment. I saw a dude stand on the sidewalk, pants down, one guy, the other guy pants completely off, face in the street, just beating off, broad daylight. Guesting they were severely mentally ill. Guesting they were not getting treatment. And I'm not a licensed therapist, but strongly assume that they probably should get some treatment.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Part of this stigma that comes with mental illness is that some people don't really believe in mental illness or in certain mental illnesses. They think it's some sort of choice. The reason some people stay away from treatment is a lack of belief and treatment effectiveness as well, and even though study after study shows that treatment is incredibly helpful, both of these beliefs are somewhat understandable historically,
Starting point is 00:30:17 until very recently, many psychological disorders were nonsense and treatment often had more in common with medieval torture than actual medically beneficial drugs and therapy. Historically, the definition of mental disorders has been heavily influenced by societal and cultural norms, which has added some to, to think that mental illness is just kind of nonsense, which is not. One recent controversial mental disorder is GID, gender identity disorder, recently redefined as gender dysphoria under the old DSM for people who felt that their physical gender did not match their true gender were diagnosed with gender
Starting point is 00:30:51 identity disorder. And then the DSM five slightly revised the criteria for the disorder and changed the name to the less stigmatizing gender dysphoria, also changed the diagnosis emphasis. And the old DSM for GID focused specifically on the identity issue, namely the incongruity between someone's birth gender and the gender with which he or she identifies. Basically, if someone's born with male parts and thinks that they should have female parts or vice versa, they used to always be classified as being mentally ill. With the new DSM-5 gender dysphoria, the manual emphasizes the importance of distress about the incongruity for one to be diagnosed with an actual mental illness.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Under the new guidelines, feeling that you are a man, for example, when you are born a, you know, woman, no longer necessarily assigned a mental illness, if you are not distressed, if you're fine feeling that you are one gender, but happened to be in the body of another gender that is under the new guidelines, not mentally ill. Dr. Robin Rosenberg, a clinical psychologist and a co-author of the Psychology textbook abnormal psychology says the disagreement between birth gender and identity may not necessarily be pathological. If it does not cause the individual distress. And this is where the controversy kicks in. Some people do not like this condition being for lack of a better term normalized.
Starting point is 00:32:09 We talked a lot about the transgender debate in suck 44. If you want to dive deeper on this specific identification, a lot of the controversy over gender dysmorphia comes over treatment. What do we do with this new emphasis? Should kids who feel gender mismatched be allowed to define themselves? Or should they be encouraged to identify with their physical biological gender is Encouraging an eight-year-old boy who feels that they're are actually a girl? Is that the right thing to do or should the kid be encouraged to identify with their biological gender until they're older? Is the kid going through a phase or they do they truly have gender dysmorphia the DSM doesn't really cover treatment
Starting point is 00:32:44 Which you know fuels this debate. I do see the argument on both sides. Those on one side of the argument see their role is helping kids get comfortable in their own skin. Those on the other side say they're forcing a kid or say that forcing a kid to live as an unwanted gender will cause depression and anxiety. And I see that as well.
Starting point is 00:33:02 This issue will remain controversial for quite some time because not that many longitudinal studies have been done, has been possible to do them to see how the mental health of someone who gets, say, a gender reassignment surgery at 20 to see how they feel at 40, 50, 60, you know, will the overwhelming number of those who have the surgery feel good about that choice, has their mental health dramatically improved, or will they regret it? Will they feel that they, you know, you know, would have been happier if they hadn't have had the surgery? You know, do the surgery add stress to their life? Only time will tell. Early research does
Starting point is 00:33:35 indicate though that the overwhelming majority of those who undergo the surgery are glad they did it and feel better and mentally healthier. Most in the psychological community seem to think that in time, gender dysmorphia won't be any more culturally taboo than homosexuality used to be. Wasn't let long ago that homosexuality itself was classified as a mental illness. And perhaps the most famous psychiatric controversy of all in the States, the APA did away with homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973 after a lot of protests from, you know, the gay and lesbian community.
Starting point is 00:34:05 The change was not easy, but the weight of the scientific evidence suggested that same sex attraction was a normal variant of sexuality among well-adjusted people that wasn't believed that long ago. Still the APA included a diagnosis in the 1980 DSM-3 called ego-distonic homosexuality. This category was like a compromise with psychiatrists who insisted that some gay's and lesbians came to them looking for treatment regarding their sexual preference.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And then Robert Spitzer, a member of the American Psychological Association's Diagnostic Task Force, said in a 1973 position statement, the revision in the Nomenclature provides the possibility of finding a homosexual to be free of psychiatric disorder and provides the possibility of finding a homosexual to be free of psychiatric disorder and provides a means to diagnose a mental disorder whose central
Starting point is 00:34:49 feature is conflict about homosexual behavior. But the Ego-Distonic Homosexuality Diagnosis was short-lived. Category didn't make sense to many psychiatrists who argued that anxiety over sexual orientation could fit into already existing categories. So in 86, Ego-Distonic Hom homosexuality disappeared from the DSM lexicon. Okay, despite that in 2020, many people who are not in the field of psychology or psychiatry still do view homosexuality as a mental disorder. Science does not seem to back up that view.
Starting point is 00:35:18 It tends to be more based in religion, but the view does exist and is actually quite common. Another controversial disorder, a classification is sex addiction. According to the society for the advancement of sexual health, sex addiction is marked by a lack of control over one's sexual behavior. Hey, I'll lose to Fina. I mean, dang, gosh dang, sucks. No, true sex addicts pursue sex despite negative consequences. They can't step boundaries.
Starting point is 00:35:43 They obsess over sex, even when they don't want to think about it. Self-described addicts also report that they don't get any pleasure from their sexual behavior, only shame. Despite sex addict being a common term, it's actually not a DSM-5 disorder. It's not being, you know, there's a variety of disorders that are out there that aren't in the manual yet. And it may never be, but the term is out there.
Starting point is 00:36:06 The APA did recently create a new sexual disorder at classification called hypersexual disorder, which isn't the DSM-5. It's defined differently for men and women as either a one-way ticket to Bonertown or a state of constant flooding in and around Pussy Creek. And of course, that's not true. But make me laugh because I'm an idiot.
Starting point is 00:36:24 No, hypersexual disorder is defined as an excessive preoccupation with sexual fantasies, urges or behaviors that are difficult to control, cause you distress, or negatively affect your health, job, relationship, or other parts of your life. One of the most controversial disorders is Asperger's Disorder. In 1994, Asperger's Disorder, which is marked by normal intelligence and language abilities, but poor social skills, made the DSM for. However, it was changed in 2013 when the DSM 5 was released. They replaced autistic disorder, Asperger's disorder, and other pervasive developmental disorders with the umbrella diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder. The reason? Research on Asperger's
Starting point is 00:37:03 and high-functioning autism had failed to find a difference between the two diagnosis. So overlap between the two disorders was rampant up to 44 percent of kids diagnosed with assburgers or other autism spectrum labels actually met the criteria for high-function autism according to a 2008 survey, but some assburgers advocates disapprove of the name change. The high-functioning autism label does not always fit people with Asperger's says Dania, Jakel, the executive director of Asperger's Association of New England, which opposes the change, man, semantics, all these labels always changing. You can get a little hard to keep up with.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Reminds me that while we meet sax for so much the same in so many ways, having for the, you know, the most part, the same desires to be loved, appreciated, have some economics to build, put food on the table, roof over the head, the ability to retire someday. We all want our lives to mean something, but we also are all so very different, right? I think this is why romantic relationships
Starting point is 00:37:58 can be so hard to manage long-term. We all have these super complicated brains, the process, objective realities, so differently. We each add our own spin to the world around us, We all have these super complicated brains, the process, objective reality, so differently. We each add our own spin to the world around us. We each place different emotional emphasis on situations, reading things into situations that aren't there because of how those situations remind us, maybe, of past experiences. Some of us can see mostly the goodness situations, some of us see mostly bad, some of us see
Starting point is 00:38:19 shit that isn't there at all. We each have an idea of how things are supposed to work, but that idea is really exactly the same as a person standing next to us. It's fucking amazing that we can all come together and compromise and actually get anything done. We keep shit interesting, humans. A lot of things, one of those things is not boring. We're fascinating creatures. And all these labels just speak to that, just the really diversity. Another controversial diagnosis is childhood bipolar disorder. Bipolar disorder characterized by mood swings between depression and excitability. Skyrocketed, skyrocketed recently as a childhood disorder.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Between 1994 and 2003, the number of doctor visits associated with childhood bipolar disorders went up 40 fold. According to a 2007 study in the journal Archives of General Psychiatry, the problem according according to the APA, is that at least some of that increase is due to changes in the way psychiatrists die. No spipolar in kids, not in actual increase in cases. To correct the issue of the APA's considering changes to the current bipolar criteria, as well as the addition of a new disorder, tempered dysregulation with dysphoria. That disorder would apply to kids with persistent irritable moods and frequent temper tantrums, but it's already drawn skepticism from some who believe it assigns an unnecessary
Starting point is 00:39:29 label to normal kid behavior. I mean, I mean, all these labels can be so, so good, but it does get, yeah, just a little bit like, Jesus, there's this label for every single type of deviation. I mean, I mean, I do think at the end of the day, it's good, but it does feel like the more labels we come up with the smaller the slice of, quote unquote, normal on the pie chart of mental health skits. And maybe that's a good thing. You know, maybe if we all had a diagnosis, mental illness would really be disigmatized
Starting point is 00:39:52 because we would all be, you know, know that we're fucking crazy and somewhere or another. Maybe it's a very good thing. Another controversial diagnosis is adult ADHD, attention deficit, hyperactivity disorder, a well-known childhood diagnosis. Kids with ADHD have trouble sitting still, pain and tension controlling their impulses, guilty.
Starting point is 00:40:11 That's the diagnosis I'm gonna say, I for sure had it. I was just never taken in for any kind of treatment or to be looked at. I was just called a scurman hermin. I was told I had ants in my pants, and my desk was moved out into the classroom, out of the classroom, and into the hallway. Recently psychiatrists have also begun to diagnose ADHD in adults and just like ADHD and children,
Starting point is 00:40:32 how it was criticized for being over diagnosed. So is adult ADHD now? A common accusation is that psychiatrists are conspiring with pharmaceutical companies to sell more ADHD drugs and I don't believe that. I don't think psychiatrists after psychiatrists are just thrown away their ethics and jump into the coffers, a big pharma, you know, over and over.
Starting point is 00:40:51 And also, you know, the treatment, whether the drug treatment does show that it helps people. So, you know, be one thing, if everybody was prescribing medications and it just wasn't doing anything, then it would seem like a conspiracy, like they're just doing it for money. But if people's, you know, moods stabilizes and they're actually able to function much better socially, you know like they're just doing it for money. But if people's mood stabilizes and they're actually able
Starting point is 00:41:05 to function much better socially, they're much happier, then yeah, that's a good thing. Another disorder has been controversial. Maybe the most fascinating disorder of all, as far as a commonly known one, dissociative identity disorder. Previously known as multiple personality disorder. This was made famous by the 1973 book,
Starting point is 00:41:24 Sybil in America, which was made into a movie the same name in 1976. And the film and the book told the story of Shirley Mason, her student in was Sible, who was diagnosed as having 16 separate personalities. As a result of horrific physical and sexual abuse, dulled out at the hands of her monster of a mother, mommy dearest. The book in the movie were big hits, but the diagnosis was not in 1995, psychiatrist Herbert Spiegel, who consulted on Shirley Mason's case, told the New York review of books that he believed Mason's personalities were created by her therapist,
Starting point is 00:41:56 who perhaps unwittingly suggested that Mason's different emotional states were distinct personalities with different names. Likewise, critics of the dissociative identity diagnosis argued that the disorder is artificial, perpetuated by well-meaning therapists who convinced trouble and suggestible patients that their problems are due to multiple personalities. Reminds me of hypnosis therapy, where people are, you know, suddenly remembered that they were abducted by aliens and that they were molested by members of a satanic cult. Nonetheless, dissociative identity disorder has weathered this criticism as,
Starting point is 00:42:27 and it still is in the DSM, it's in the DSM-5, which does mean that the psychological and psychiatric community at large does allow for this extreme condition to be a real thing. Here's the diagnostic criteria for this. The disorder is marked by a disruption of identity, characterized by two or more distinct personality states or an experience of possession.
Starting point is 00:42:47 The clinician may observe or the patient may report that these personality states demonstrate marked discontinuity in sense of self and or agency, accompanied by changes in effect, behavior, consciousness, memory, perception, cognition, and or sensory motor functioning. In addition, the person experiences disassociative amnesia, a disruption in autobiographical memory that includes gaps or difficulties and recall of everyday events, important personal information,
Starting point is 00:43:15 and or traumatic events. And how weird. If like each personality is a separate consciousness. Like if that's true, when integrating them into one consciousness, be kind of like murder, right? Would you have to kill a few of the personalities to get down to one?
Starting point is 00:43:31 And then there's been some movies kind of based around that premise that I've enjoyed. I dated someone who swore that her ex had this. She said he would space off, and then suddenly when he would snap back, he would be somebody else with different mannerisms, preferences, memories, speaking cadence. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I don't care how kind and understanding a person is, it would be really hard to be in a relationship with someone who had this because essentially it's like you'd be dating multiple people. And again, because I'm an idiot, I immediately picture my wife Lindsay having this and my brain, of course, makes one of her separate personalities super freaking info. And I picked her snabbing back to her main personality and asked me why she has still clamps or nipples and wire butterns. Come on, you get it. Nice. And I just say, I'm like, oh, weird.
Starting point is 00:44:16 That's weird. I don't know anything about that. And then she has a hard time understanding what I'm saying because I'm, I'm wearing a get mask. Hey, any who? Moving on. Hello, Suspina. Another disorder that fits into this list
Starting point is 00:44:25 of controversial brain stuff is known as the narcissistic personality disorder, NPD. Narcissists, I feel like there's so many of them out there. What is that true? A someone with an inflated ego, a need for constant praise and a lack of empathy for others might sound like a shoo in for psychotherapy, but the introduction of narcissistic personality disorder
Starting point is 00:44:44 into the DSM in 1980 was not without people yelling and disagreement over it. The biggest problem was that no one could agree on who had the disorder. Up to half of the people diagnosed with the narcissistic personality initially were lawyers, which I love. And they met the criteria for other personality disorders, like histrionic personality disorder, borderline personality disorder. According to a 2001 review in the Journal of Mental Health Counseling, basically the diagnosis seemed almost arbitrary and too common. Does that make it wrong? Or is the world just full of
Starting point is 00:45:14 narcissists? Is it normal to be a narcissist? Are you a narcissist? You know one. Here's the criteria for a diagnosis or diagnosis from the DSM-5. NPDs defined as compromising a pervasive pattern of grandiosity in fantasy or behavior, a constant need for admiration, a lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood in present and a variety of contexts as indicated in the presence of at least five of the following nine criteria. So find out if you're a narcissist. Do you have five of these next nine things? Number one, has a grandiose sense of self-importance. For example, exaggerate achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements. CoMMEN SURAT. That word always escapes me when I need it.
Starting point is 00:46:06 How to say it. Commence for it? I think so. I don't think I have this one. Maybe I do. I sometimes, I do think what I do is important, but sometimes I think I'm a stupid jackass. It doesn't seem consistent. Number two is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance,
Starting point is 00:46:22 beauty, or ideal love. Now, I don't sit around fantasizing about unlimited power. I'd rather have somebody smarter than me in charge. That would make me feel better. If the thought of me being in charge of everything would make me super fucking anxious. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna fuck it up. Number three, believes that he or she is special and unique and can only be understood by or should associate with other special or high status people or institutions.
Starting point is 00:46:46 I think I'm kind of special mostly because you guys say that but I also think a lot of other people are special. And I have no interest in associating only with high status people that that that sounds painful. Powerful people usually come across as very arrogant to me and not as an enjoyable personality type to be around. Number four requires excessive admiration. Now, I'm lucky that I get that. It mostly just makes me feel uncomfortable. Five has a sense of entitlement that is unreasonable expectations of especially favorable
Starting point is 00:47:15 treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations. I mean, maybe I do kind of wish I was above the law, right? That would be fun. Who wouldn't want to be above the law? Most of you guys want to be able to drive really, really fast and now you're pulled over. And maybe occasionally, occasionally, don't get crazy, do some hard drugs in public
Starting point is 00:47:32 and not have to worry about getting arrested. You know, you get it. Number six is interpersonally exploitative. That is, takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends. No, come on, I married a Polish woman. I can't exploit her. She can't even read her right.
Starting point is 00:47:47 So that one's not true. JK, she's very smart. She's very smart. Seven Lacks Empathy is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others. No, seems sad, people makes me feel like a sad boy. Number eight, often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
Starting point is 00:48:03 No, you do you. Let me do me. I don't think about envy really. I mean, yeah, sometimes I see some comment like, God, that'd be cool, but I don't have like want their life. Number nine shows arrogant, hotty behaviors or attitudes. Maybe get a little hotty. Oh, hotty.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Oh, hotty pants. Hotty Cummins. That's what they call me. Oh, hotcom. Okay, so that felt good to go through. I don't think I'm an arses despite having a very self-centered career. I do think I have known some narcissists for sure though. I do think I may be related to some. Okay, one more controversial diagnosis this time from the days of your,
Starting point is 00:48:37 then we're off to Bizarro land. This one is just entertaining to me. Histeria. This is fucking crazy. In the Victorian era, hysteria was a catch all diagnosis for women in distress. The symptoms were very vague because it was nonsense. Discontentment, weakness, outburst of emotion, nerves, shopping too much, erect nipples, not making that one up. Super sexist, long debunked diagnosis. Basically, it's like, ah, women, ah, typical woman is like that kind of fucking thought process. Um, this is so crazy. A comment treatment for this area called hysterical, uh, peroxism was insane.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Hysterical, peroxism, peroxism, oh shit. I don't know, I usually do all my pronunciation checks. This is P-A-R-O-X-Y-S-M. Perro, Perroxism. I think it's Perroxism. I think that's right, that's the first time. Was a doctor massaging his patients, vagina, and clitoris, either manually or with the vibrator.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I'm not making this up. This treatment was born way before the Victorian area. Goes back to the time of the Romans, at least. A second century Roman physician, Galen wrote, quote, following the remedies and arising from the touch of the genital organs required by the treatment. They're followed, twitching, accompanied at the same time by pain and pleasure, after which she emitted turbid and abundant
Starting point is 00:49:58 sperm. From that time on, she was free of all the evils she felt. Yeah, she came and she felt better. What the fuck? Nurse this woman is hysterical. Please get a hold of Dr. Fingerblaster We would go visit a doctor or therapist and this dude it was always a dude We'll just would finger them. Just fucking fingerblast him or stick a vibrator Never-gainer, you know, rub it on around their clit until they came.
Starting point is 00:50:28 And apparently, I guess, we'll keep his pants on the entire time, and did not see this as a sexual encounter, but rather just his medical treatment. Oh my God, I bet some women scheduled a lot of these doctors appointments, and I bet some doctors put calluses on their dicks from constantly beating off in between appointments. That was worth it, dear. Huh. Exhausting. I had to treat 10 hysterical women with a last patient who had a particularly stubborn vagina.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I experienced the mother of all cramps in my forearm. I had to use both hands, even engage in some rectal stimulation, even pinching pinch of your knuckles to cure you. You get it. I'd love some aspirin and ice pack and a stiff drink, if you could, if you could be so helpful. It's crazy. According to 2002 editorial in the academic journal,
Starting point is 00:51:13 spinal cord, the diagnosis of hysteria gradually peed her out, no pun intended, peed her out. Throughout the 20th century, by 1980 hysteria disappeared from the DSM in favor of newer diagnosis, like a conversion and dissociative disorders. My God, today a doctor would find the loser license. They got treating patients by, I'll just help them come.
Starting point is 00:51:33 You know, they're tense. I'm not supposed to relax them. Okay, okay. Now let's talk about some bizarre mental disorders. We've already got a little bizarre. But first for those of you not listening or watching on YouTube, let's check in with some sweet ass sponsors offering up some sweet ass deals. Now we're back from
Starting point is 00:51:50 our break, or if you're on YouTube, there was no break and just a weird awkward slight pause. So many rare and fast-nated disorders to cover now, most of which have not been given labels, treated by therapists, not listed in the DSM. Let's start with Alice in Wonderland Syndrome. Alice in Wonderland Syndrome is a very rare condition that causes temporary episodes of distorted perception and disorientation. You may suddenly feel larger or smaller than you actually are. It's so weird.
Starting point is 00:52:17 You may also, I feel like I've given Joe Paisi this. I feel like all of her talks about him being tiny. It makes him feel smaller than he actually is. He's not actually that small of a dude. But I feel like sometimes I constantly talk about him being so tiny, I him feel smaller than he actually is. He's not actually that small of a dude, but I feel like sometimes I constantly talk about him being so tiny. I wonder how tiny he thinks he is. But you may also find like the room that you're in, or the surrounding furniture seems to shift and feel further away or closer than it really is. These episodes are not the result of a problem with your eyes or hallucination. They're caused by
Starting point is 00:52:39 changes in how your brain perceives the environment you're in, and how your body looks. The syndrome can have can affect multiple senses, including vision, touch, and hearing. You may also lose a sense of time. Time may seem to pass faster or slower than you think. Alice and Wonderland syndrome primarily affects children and young adults. Most people grow out of the disordered perceptions
Starting point is 00:52:59 as they age, but it is still possible to experience this in adulthood. It's also known as Todd's syndrome. It was first identified in the 1950s by Dr. John Todd. Good old two first names. First name is a first name and last name is the first name. I love that, you can flip it. Dr. Todd, Dr. John Todd, this is his partner,
Starting point is 00:53:18 Dr. Todd John. Anyway, British psychiatrist, he noticed that certain patients reported exactly the same feeling of opening out like a telescope. He also noted that the symptoms and recorded anecdotes of the syndrome closely resembled episodes at the character Alice Ledele experienced in Lewis Carroll's novel Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. A.W.S. episodes, different for each person, what you experience may vary from episode to episode.
Starting point is 00:53:42 A typical episode will last a few minutes. It can last up to half an hour. During that time, you may experience one or more of the common symptoms, such as migraines, size, distortion, including both my crops here, the sensation that your body or objects around your growing smaller, the mucrops here, the sensation that your body
Starting point is 00:54:01 or objects around your growing larger, perpetual distortion is another symptom. If you feel that the objects near you are growing larger. Perpetual distortion is another symptom. If you feel that the objects near you are growing larger or that they're closer to you than they really are, you're experiencing palopsia. The opposite of that is palopsia, the sensation of objects are kind of moving farther away from you. Time distortion, the sensation that time is moving faster or slower than it really is. Sound distortion, even typically quiet sounds can suddenly be loud and intrusive.
Starting point is 00:54:27 You can even experience loss of limb control, loss of coordination. A symptom occurs when muscles feel like as if they're acting involuntarily. In other words, you may feel as though you're not controlling your own body. The altered sense of reality can affect how you move or walk. You may feel uncoordinated,
Starting point is 00:54:41 or have difficulty moving about as you normally would. Fuckin' weird. So strange, experience all of this would obviously fuck your day up a little bit. Hard to frame a house, you know, properly, if you feel like you're suddenly a tiny mouse-sized person, and that the, you know, wall you're supposed to be working on is suddenly, you know, 90 yards away. Hard to prep for surgery if you think that you're a giant and you can't control your arms. So what causes all of this? Researchers believe unusual electrical activity in the brain causes abnormal blood flow to the parts of the brain that process your environment, experience, visual perception,
Starting point is 00:55:13 right? Messes up your ability to perceive reality around you. One study found that 33% of people who experienced AWS had infections. Both head trauma and migraines were tied to 6% of AWS episodes. More than half of AWS cases have no known cause. So really, nobody knows. Nobody really knows what's going on with this.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And there are no treatment options available for this disorder currently. Even stranger disorder, in my opinion, is known as alien hand syndrome. Alien hand syndrome sadly has nothing to do with extraterrestrials. It's not a disorder where you're convinced you have found an alien's hand And you've put it in a box and you've locked it until you can figure out how you can use it like some sort of tracking device To find the spaceship it's gonna take you to a planet where you can find King shit a fuck mountain No It's a phenomenon which one hand or sometimes the leg is not under control of the mind
Starting point is 00:56:00 The most prominent symptom of alien hand syndrome is the inability to control the hand as it acts The most prominent symptom of alien hand syndrome is the inability to control the hand as it acts independently. The affected hand may move involuntarily or perform gold-terected tasks and actions. The hand is said to move without cognitive control or awareness. It's as though it's being controlled by someone else or has a mind of its own. The hand may touch your face, button to shirt, pick up an object. Sometimes repeatedly or compulsively, the alien hand may also levitate on its own, may engage in self-oppositional actions such as closing aively, the alien hand may also levitate on its own, may engage in self-oppositional actions such as closing a drawer that the other hand is just opened or unbuttoning to shirt that you just buttoned. That would be so annoying.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Oh my God. What if, what if you, you know, every time you try to eat some chili with one hand, your other hand just fucking slapped it out of your, you know, the spoon on your hand. What, what if your one hand that you couldn't control wanted to constantly pick your butt aggressively in public or worse? What if it constantly wanted to constantly pick your butt aggressively in public or worse What if it constantly wanted to pick other people's butts in public and you couldn't stop it People with alien hand syndrome may even sense that the hand or limb is foreign doesn't belong to them The disorder can be tied to a brain tumor and aneurysm a stroke and neurosurgery No cure for alien hand syndrome other than than you know, cutting off your arm,
Starting point is 00:57:05 which is extreme. And how much were to suck if you cut off one arm, and then your other lone remaining arm suddenly started acting up on its own. Not even sure that that's possible. The next disorder, somewhat related to alien hands syndrome, arguably much worse. It's called, whoo, it's the tricky one.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Apateminophilia. Apateminophilia. Apateminophilia. Apatemophilia, there we go. Whew, big word, big, high level, top shelf word. Apateminophilia, fuck this word, or body integrity identity disorder, BID, easier. Defined by the uncontrollable desire to amputate one or more healthy limbs or to become paraplegic.
Starting point is 00:57:44 It's also sometimes known as amputee identity disorder, AID. Let's call it that, AID. The urge is so strong with these thankfully very rare disorders that many who are afflicted end up mutilating themselves. Yic! Ah, by shooting into a leg, sawing off a finger or toe, placing the offensive limb in the way of an oncoming train, freezing the limb to death, packing it nice. One person even injected their knee with liquidized fecal matter and it's time to kill their leg. And doctors have no idea how to treat it.
Starting point is 00:58:13 So you should do your best just to not get it. Maybe you should run a little mantra through your head when you wake up in the morning. Just please do not let me get, I'll put t-ta-ta-ta-ta-ba. Please do not let me get out of t-ta-ta-ba-ta-ba-ta-ba-ta-ba-ta-ba, Philia. I can't imagine just looking at my perfectly healthy legs and get, I'll put tapas, tapas, tapas. Please do not let me get, I'll put tapas, tapas, tapas, tapas, tapas. I can't imagine just looking at my perfectly healthy legs and thinking, I need to get really stupid fucking legs. God, life would be easier if I just turned out of these legs, mucking up everything.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Next up is an extremely rare disorder. Very little has been written about, it's bowanthropy. Bowanthropy is strange delusional disorder, where the suffer believes that he or she is a cow or an ox. It reportedly started, uh, starts as a dream, eventually taking hold of the mind as a full-blown powerful delusion. What kind of, what kind of thought do you have with this disorder? Like, uh, like you get super nervous
Starting point is 00:58:58 if you have this and then you somehow end up in a butcher shop. Stay cool. Act natural. Do not freak out. You're just in a room full of people buying the meat of your brothers and sisters. You're just being looked at by a man cutting up that meat. Oh my God, they're gonna come eat them next! Patients with capcraw delusion.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Let's talk about this next one. It's another bizarre disorder. Capcraw delusion or syndrome are sure that a person close to them, like their significant other or close friend, you know, family member, have been replaced by an identical imposter. It was named after Joseph Capgraut, an early and mid-20th century French psychiatrist who described the first case a woman named Madame M, who had the delusion that her husband have been switched out for a double. Capcrox syndrome has repeatedly been reported in late stage Alzheimer's dementia, but can
Starting point is 00:59:48 also occur without dementia. Without dementia, Capcrox syndrome typically develops after lesions to the right hemisphere. I watched a video about this poor bastard. He was thrown from his car in a terrible car accident, suffered a traumatic brain injury. You know, he had a, you know, damaged to the right hemisphere of his brain. He's gonna come up for three weeks. When he woke up, he, he lost the use of his right arm. He was still physically there, but he couldn't control it. Also, thought his mom had been replaced by an imposter. It just didn't trust that his mom was his mom. Just always bugging shooting a stink
Starting point is 01:00:18 guy's mom. Like, God, it's not her. No matter how many people would tell him it's her. It's like, dude, it's her. No, something's wrong. It can also be the symptom of a psychotic disorder, like most commonly schizophrenia, can be dangerous, violence against a misidentified person is possible, right? If you just think like, where is, where's my real mom? You know, more likely when delusions are well developed,
Starting point is 01:00:37 part of a past history of aggressive behavior, delusions against a specific person, a suspiciousness and hostility contribute towards dangerousness. Maybe that's why Ed Kemper decapitated his mom. Mother, you are not mother! That's why I got put your head on a stick! This next disorder makes some sense considering how prevalent werewolf and shapeshifting legends are throughout history.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Clinical like canthropy. Clinical like canthropy is defined as a rare psychiatric syndrome that involves a delusion that the affected person thinks they can transform into or is Transform into or has already transformed into an animal The afflicted may grunt claw fill their bodies cover with hair their nails are elongated Some people strongly believe that they're in process of metamorphosis into a werewolf There have been at least 13 case reports of people since 1850 heaviness. Besides werewolves, 147-year-old lady claimed that she would snake.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Super weird. I would rather think that I was turning to werewolf, though, than wanna cut my legs off. I mean, if I had to pick, that one seems better than opatumnafilia, also better than buoyancy. I mean, if I'm gonna turn into an animal, I would rather be a werewolf, not a cow.
Starting point is 01:01:43 The next disorder sounds a lot like living inside of a zombie movie. Oh, my God. It is crazy how the brain can work. Cotard delusion, also known as walking corpse syndrome or cotard syndrome, is a very rare mental disorder in which the affected person holds the delusional belief that they're already dead. They don't exist. There's another variation of this,
Starting point is 01:02:06 or that they're putrefined, they're rotting, they've lost their blood or internal organs. It usually occurs with severe depression and some psychotic disorder like schizophrenia. One of the main symptoms of co-tar delusion is nihilism. The belief that life is meaningless, which makes sense. Right, like one doctor talked about in this video, I watched people suffering from co-tar delusion
Starting point is 01:02:25 can be very hard to motivate because they think, well, what's the fucking point of getting a job? I'm dead. Why should you get a boyfriend or girlfriend? I'm dead. I'm not gonna show up at school, I'm already dead. They actually think that in their heads. Like, how frustrating would it be to be the parent
Starting point is 01:02:37 of a child with co-tar delusion? It's like, dude, come on. Please pick up your room. It stinks. No, dad. I stink. Because I'm dead in my flesh is rotting. For the milling time, you're not rotting. Garbage in your room might be rotting. Please pick it up. How about you pick me up, dad? Throw me in the trash. Throw away your dead rotting sun. Well, if you're so dead smart guy, how are you still able to play PS4 all day?
Starting point is 01:03:06 He'll they go, drink all the milk. I don't know, damn, I'm not God. I'm just a dead rotting team who will clean up his room when he becomes alive again. Kind of be hard to understand, especially before, you know, people understood modern sake, high tree. Researchers not sure what causes co-tar delusion illusion. cotard usually occurs with other conditions, so treatment options can vary widely. A 2009 review found that electroconvulsive therapy, ECT, was the most commonly used treatment, also a common treatment for severe depression, with which cotard illusion is often linked.
Starting point is 01:03:39 ECT involves passing small electric currents to the brain to create small seizures while you're under general anesthesia. This next one not necessarily is weird, not as weird, but not any less scary. It's listed in the DSM-5. It's dissociative fugue. Dissociative fugue, also now sometimes known as the Jason Bourne syndrome from all the Matt Damon movies,
Starting point is 01:04:00 is one or more episodes of ammunition, which an individual cannot recall some are all of his or her past. Even the loss of one's identity or the formation of a new identity may occur with sudden, unexpected, purposeful, travel away from home. You can remember how to tie your shoes, drive a car, perform certain skills, you learn to work or in school, et cetera,
Starting point is 01:04:18 but you don't know who you are or you become someone else for a bit. Specific symptoms can include sudden, unexpected travel away from home, or one's customary place of work with the inability to recall one's past. Confusion about personal identity or assumption of a new identity, partial or complete.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Disturments does not occur exclusively during the course of dissociative identity disorder and is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance. For example, a drug of abuse, a medication, or a general medical condition, like a temporal low epilepsy. The length of the fugue may range from hours to weeks or months occasionally longer during the fugue.
Starting point is 01:04:58 The person may appear normal and attract no attention. The person may assume a new name, identity, domicile, may engage in complex social interactions like they can have a whole other life and snap out of it. At some point, confusion about their identity and the return of the original identity makes the person aware of amnesia and causes great distress. What the fuck? I mean, can you imagine you're driving to work one morning
Starting point is 01:05:21 and then when it feels like, you know, a moment later, you're grabbing a meal in a soup kitchen, 500 miles from home and find out you've been sleeping on the street for two months. And I'm going locally by the name of fucking whiskey peat, right? I'd make me so nervous for the rest of my life, you know, if that happened to me.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Never know, you know, knowing if I might slip into that again. Also, could be a great excuse for having an insane, you know, midlife crisis. Like, baby, it's me. Oh my God. Oh, I, I, I, I, sorry, I can't believe I went missing for, for fucking two weeks again. I somehow ended up back outside of Vegas where, where I got, I ended up getting used as some kind of quality control tester at a high end brothel.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Apparently, I was going by the name of Thunderdick and living on cocaine and steak and pussy gosh dang. Can't believe I almost completely drained our savings. It got so many STDs. Damn you dissociative fugue. This condition also pretty rare. The prevalence of dissociative fugue estimated it 0.2%. Treatment sometimes involves hypnosis or drug-facilitated interviews. However, efforts to restore memory very often unsuccessful. This next disorder, more of a category of disorders than a single illness, a fictitious disorder. It is in the DSM-5, which states that it is a psychiatric disorder in which sufferers intentionally fabricate physical or psychological symptoms in order to assume the role of the patient without any obvious gain. People who suffer from fictitious disorder
Starting point is 01:06:47 act as if they have a physical or mental illness when in fact, they have consciously created the symptoms, they're faking it. And these people are often willing to undergo sometimes seriously painful or risky test to get the sympathy and special attention they crave. There's two main types of fictitious disorders. There is the fictitious disorder. There is the fictitious disorder.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Make sure I fictitious, yeah, that's right. Okay, imposed by oneself, it can include the falsifying of psychological or physical signs or symptoms, an example of a psychological fictitious disorder of this type of mimicking behavior that is typical of a mental illness such as schizophrenia. The person may appear confused, make absurd statements, report hallucinations, and then there is the fictitious disorder imposed on another. People with this form of the disorder produce or fabricate symptoms of illness in others under their care.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Children, elderly adults, disabled persons, pets, most often occurs in mothers, although it can occur in fathers who intentionally harm their kids in order to receive attention. EEP! There are no reliable statistics regarding the number of people in the U.S. who suffer from fictitious disorder. Obtaining accurate statistics is difficult. It's very hard to diagnose because patients do not typically acknowledge they have it. The exact cause of a fictitious disorder not known, researchers believe both biological
Starting point is 01:07:59 and psychological factors play a role. Some theories suggest that a history of an abuse or neglect is a child or a history of frequent illness in themselves or family members that requires hospitalization also may be a factor in developing the disorder. Many people who have it also suffer from other disorders, particularly personality or identity disorders.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Okay, now for another disorder that is truly bizarre. Mirror touch synesthesia. Mirror touch synesthesia. Mirror touch synesthesia is a rare condition which causes individuals to experience a similar sensation in the same part of the body such as touch that another person feels. For example, if someone with this condition were to observe someone touching their cheek, they would feel the same sensation on their own cheek. Not in the DSM-5.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Super rare. I'm sure it's terrible to have it, but could be amazing to have this condition and watch porn. I mean, holy shit, better than VR. It's like you'd be in the porno. Probably not fun to have this condition and watch MMA or an action movie. Probably not going to spend a lot of time in the porno. Probably not fun to have this condition and watch MMA or an action movie. Probably not gonna spend a lot of time in the boxing gym.
Starting point is 01:09:07 This next disorder sounds like something anyone of us could have a touch of. A rotomania, it is in the DSM-5. A person with a rotomania has a delusional belief that another person is in love with them despite clear evidence against that. The object of the person's delusions often a celebrity or a person of higher social status,
Starting point is 01:09:25 but not always. An individual may believe that this person is communicating with them and affirming their love using secret messages. It's often combined with another psychiatric illness such as schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. And some people who have had it have done some seriously terrible things because they thought that someone they were in love with told them to do it like John Hinkley. March 30, 1991, the then 25 year old attempted to assassinate US President Ronald Reagan in Washington, DC.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Reagan did take a ricocheted bullet to the chest. He also, this guy, John wounded a police officer, secret service agent, and the US press secretary. And why did he do this? Do this? Because he thought it would get actors, Jody Foster's attention. He was obsessed with Jody Fosterosters and stocking her for months and he just knew that she would love him if he could just get her attention all right before the shooting he wrote to her saying uh... over the past seven
Starting point is 01:10:13 months i've left you dozens of poems letters and love messages in the faint hope that you can develop an interest in me although we talked on the phone a couple times i never had the nerve to simply approach and introduce myself the reason i'm going ahead with this attempt now is because I cannot wait any longer to impress you. Uh-huh. This delusion can develop and persist despite clear evidence from the love interest that
Starting point is 01:10:32 they have fucking zero interest in you. What so ever? Very weird. I do have an ex. This reminds me of, I will not say her name, because I'm afraid she might be listing. I don't want to fucking stir up the hornest nest. But we dated a long time ago and we broke up. And she confronted me several times about other people
Starting point is 01:10:50 I was dating and how messed up it was that I was dating them even though we were no longer together. I had to tell her over and over that we were done. And it's not like we dated a crazy, crazy long time either. I had to tell her that I did not like her like that and that we were never ever gonna get back together again, which is not fun to do to somebody For a while she went away then two years later she shut up where I was working at the time brought me a meal Like just as if we were like living together like I hadn't seen her and probably over a year so weird
Starting point is 01:11:13 Freaked me out my coworkers thought it was super weird freaked them out Another time she hung out in front of a different place as working just threw down a blanket and danced for a couple of hours Little boom box Knowing that I had to walk right past her when I left for work working just threw down a blanket and danced for a couple of hours, little boom box. Knowing that I had to walk right past her when I left for work, then when I started to stand up, she started showing up a stand up shows and still does to this day. I just wanted to grab a drink or hang out super flirty every time I see her fucking creeps me out.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I'm scared to think that someone's brain could prevent them from just letting someone else go and moving the fuck on. Man, if anyone ever tells you that you're stalking them, go see a counselor in case they're right. In case despite not feeling crazy, you are in fact acting super duper crazy. You just can't see it. A raw domainy can start suddenly and the symptoms are often long lasting. The object of the infection is typically an older and accessible person.
Starting point is 01:12:05 One more strain disorder, and then let's take a little break before bouncing back into some more of them. We'll go into a little timeline. Another delusional disorder, this time revolving around extreme jealousy called the Othello syndrome. Pathological jealousy, also known as a morbid jealousy. Othello syndrome or delusional jealousy is a psychological disorder in which a person is preoccupied with the thought that they're spouse or sexual partner is being unfaithful without having any real proof, along with socially unacceptable or abnormal behavior. This would include recurrent accusations of infidelity, searches for evidence, repeated interrogation of the partner, tests of the partner's fidelity and sometimes a bit of stalking.
Starting point is 01:12:45 The Othello syndrome affects males and less often females. The syndrome may appear by itself or be part of a paranoid schizophrenia, alcoholism or even cocaine addiction. As an athelval, the play by Shakespeare, the syndrome can be highly dangerous and can result in disruption of a marriage, homicide or suicide. Not fun to have a coaked out schizophrenic furious with you because you are for sure cheating on them with someone you may have not even met extreme jealousy paranoia. No, thank you. I can deal with some shit and relationship, but not that. Okay. Now let's take a small break from
Starting point is 01:13:14 bizarre disorders. Look at some of the history of how mental illness has been handled over the years. Some of this covered way back in sub 20 insane insane asylum tales. That was three years ago, though. So we'll get back to some more bizarre mental disorders after this episode's relatively short time suck timeline that looks into how we meat sacks have viewed and treated mental illness over the years in the western world. down a time, some time, lie. In the late fifth century, an early four century BCE, the famous Greek physician, Hippocrates, treated mental disorders as diseases to be understood in terms of disturbed psychology, rather than as reflections of displeasure from the gods or evidence of demonic possession, as they had been treated in Egyptian, Indian, Greek,
Starting point is 01:14:07 and other cultures and writings up until then. And how crazy is that? That this dude knew that mental illness originated in the human body. It was not in a fliction of the soul, and then over 1500 years later, during the dark ages of medieval Europe, many people, most people had reverted back
Starting point is 01:14:23 to primitive thinking, and believe once again, that mentally ill people were witches and nasty sinners and repentance could cure them. Good reminder that progress can turn into regression if we don't stand top of that shit. Heal Nimrod. Later, other Greek medical writers set out treatments for mentally ill people that included quiet, occupation, the use of drugs such as the purgative, hella-bore, none of those treatments may have worked very well, but at least they were barking up the right trees, right?
Starting point is 01:14:49 Family members cared for most people with mental health issues in ancient times. The first European establishment specifically for people with mental illness wouldn't happen for a long, long time after Hippocrates. Wasn't established until 1410 CE in Valencia, Spain, the hospital of the innoc innocence established by a priest won Gilberto Yafri on
Starting point is 01:15:09 Friday February 24th, 1409 father won was on his way to cathedral to say mass here to a bunch of commotion in the street bunch a bunch of hubbub And he saw a man in the ground covering his head with his arms as a gang of young people were taunting and mocking and even hitting him Father won hurried over to the small crowd, demanded they stop hurting one of God's children. At this point in history, many people had reverted, like I said earlier, back to thinking that the mentally ill were just possessed by demons. People thought they were doing society a favor oftentimes by driving the afflicted away, or sometimes even killing them.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Father Juan rescued the man, brought him to the mercenary and monastery where he was given shelter and had his wounds tended to. And then he wanted to help others. He wanted to be able to place, take these people and care for them and keep them safe. He told the people that it would be a very holy thing for the people of Valencia to do, telling his congregation, blessed are the merciful for they will be shown mercy. Among the congregation at Mass were merchants, businessmen, and craftsmen, a short time later the general council of the city approved an initiative to build a hospital.
Starting point is 01:16:07 It was to be located outside the city, close to a place called the Torrent Gate, which soon became known as the Gate of the Insane. Not exactly a PC label now, but the word Insane didn't always have a negative connotation. I mean, father won, man, good priest. Nice reminder, there are some very good priests out there. Sadly, Europe was not full of father-wands and treatment of the mentally ill did not really improve much after the establishment of the first hospital.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Over the next several centuries, Europeans increasingly began to isolate mentally ill people, often housing them with physically handicapped people, vagrants and delinquents. Those considered insane were increasingly treated inhumanly often literally, chain to the walls of actual dungeons. Yet, that couldn't have helped much.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Right, if you're already super depressed, I'm guessing, I'm just strongly guessing that being locked in a literal dungeon is not going to turn things around. Right, hey, hey Paul, how you doing these days man? I've been seeing you in a while. Oh, oh, fucking awesome man. Way less depressed than I used to be. They, they, uh, they chained me up in a dungeon for five years. And at first, I'm not gonna lie. I didn't like it.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Being chained to the wall of a cold dungeon filled with rats and the, the, the wailing of the dine and the stench of the already dead, it, it really kind of bummed me out further. I felt more depressed, but then I was like, you know, this, this is a good thing. This really gives me a lot of time to think about me. A lot of time to think about how I don't want to be
Starting point is 01:17:29 chained up in a dungeon anymore. It turned out, I just needed a perspective adjustment. Like before the dungeon, I hated working for a, as a surf for a terrible lord who took nearly all of my money every year in unjust taxes, but now I'm like, you know, eating barely enough steel, bread, the stay alive, and breaking my back, working every single day, it's way better than rotting in a dungeon. By the late 1700s, concern over the treatment of the mentally ill had grown to the point that occasional reforms were instituted. After the French Revolution, French physician, Felipe Penel takes over an insane asylum
Starting point is 01:18:00 and forbids the use of chains and shackles. He removes patients from dungeons, provides stuff. It's like I can't believe the people with a scat thrown dungeons all the St. Asylum and forbids the use of chains and shackles. He removes patients from dungeons, provides them. It's fucking gambling that people would have got thrown dungeons all the time. Keep hearing this word, dungeons. It's like, it doesn't seem real. How crazy is that? Did it just fucking drag somebody into the basement of like some castle, this dank, gloomy dungeon? Literally just chained him to the wall.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Ah! I'll teach him, for acting weird. Um, yeah, so he took him him to the wall. Ah, I'll teach him for acting weird. Yeah, so he took him out of the dungeons. This guy, Felipe Penel, provided them with sunny rooms, allowed them to exercise on the grounds, sadly in many other asylums, mistreatment persisted in the late 1700s. In the 1840s, an America activist
Starting point is 01:18:40 and mental health pioneer, Dorothea Dix, lobbied for better living conditions for the mentally ill. After witnessing the dangers and unhealthy conditions, in which many patients lived, activists and mental health pioneer Dorothea Dix lobbied for better living conditions for the mentally ill. After witnessing the dangers on unhealthy conditions in which many patients lived, over a 40-year period, Dix successfully persuaded the U.S. government to fund the building of 32 state psychiatric hospitals. A new institutional inpatient care model was born in which many patients lived in hospitals and were treated by professional staff.
Starting point is 01:19:01 It was considered the most effective way to care for the mentally ill as a time and it probably was at the time. Institutionalization was welcomed by families and communities who didn't know how to care for mentally ill relatives. Although institutionalized care increased patient access to mental health services, the state hospitals soon became very overcrowded, underfunded, understaffed,
Starting point is 01:19:22 and the institutional care system became a fucking living nightmare for most people. In the late 19th century, mental illness studied more scientifically as German psychiatrist, a meal, a cripple, and distinguishes mental disorders through subsequent research or those subsequent research will disprove some of his findings. His fundamental distinction between manic depressive psychosis and schizophrenia holds to this day. Now that we moved a long way from the dark ages diagnosis of, you know, the devil's inside
Starting point is 01:19:48 this man, the devil made him do it. So that's, you know, it's good, it's in progress. Also in the late 19th century, asylum life, it gets even worse in the US. The expectation in the US that hospitals for the mentally ill and humane treatment will cure the sick does not prove true. State mental hospitals have become dangerously overcrowded now, custodial care supersedes humane treatment. New York world reporter Nellie Blyh poses as a mentally ill person to become an inmate at an asylum. Reports from inside result in more funding to improve conditions.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Man, Nellie Blyh, very brave, meat sack, working under an, uh, uh, working under an assumed name in 1887, then 23 year old took a room in a boarding house, set out to prove herself insane. She wandered the halls and nearby streets, refused to sleep, ranted and yelled incoherently, even practiced looking, crazed in a mirror. Within days, the boarding house owners, some of the police, she claimed to be a Cuban immigrant, suffering from amnesia,
Starting point is 01:20:41 a perplexed judge sent her to Bellevue Hospital in New York City, where hospital inmates were forced to eat spoiled food live in squalid conditions. She was diagnosed there with dementia and other psychological illnesses and then sent by ferry to Blackwell's island in the East River. Originally built to hold a thousand patients, Blackwell was cramming more than 1600 people into the asylum in Blyaride in the fall of 1887. So 1600 people in a building meant for 1000. That's fucking great. Just 16 doctors on staff, patients were forced to take ice cold baths and remain in wet clothes for hours leading to frequent illnesses.
Starting point is 01:21:15 They were forced to sit on benches without speaking or moving for stints lasting 12 hours or more. Some patients were tethered together with ropes, forced to pull carts around like mules, food and sanitary conditions were horrific, rotten meat, moldy, stale bread frequently contaminated water were being dished out, those who complained or resisted were beaten sometimes savagely, and bligh even spoke of the threat of sexual violence by vicious, tyrannical staffers, basically like shut up or will rape you. Also many of the inmates weren't even mentally ill.
Starting point is 01:21:46 They were just poor and they were sent there by families who couldn't afford to care for them or by the courts who didn't know what to do with them. Reasons for admission into the trans-allaghanie lunatic asylum in West Virginia from 1864 to 1889 included. And this just speaks to like, you know, people going into these insanity who shouldn't even be there because they didn't even have any mental health issue. You could send somebody to an asylum for laziness, egotism, disappointed love, female disease, mental excitement,
Starting point is 01:22:12 cold, snuff, greediness, imaginary female trouble, gathering in the head, exposure and quackery, jealousy, religion, asthma, masturbation, and bad habits. How scary was that reality? Where your parents, your spouse, could meet with the head of an institution, tell them that you were lazy and been jerking off too much, and they would lock you up. Imagine how many people will be institutionalized now if they locked up everybody who had bad habits and was lazy and jerked off.
Starting point is 01:22:43 I think 90% of teenagers would be institutionalized. Many years ago, I had been one of them. In the late 19th century, many people abused the US mental health care system just to get rid of people they didn't wanna be around. If they're having trouble with a spouse, trouble with the kids, fucking throw them in the institution, say that they were, I don't know, too jealous
Starting point is 01:23:01 and they fingerblast themselves too many times. It's crazy. 1908, Clifford Beers published his autobiography, a mine that found itself detailing his degrading, dehumanizing experience in a Connecticut mental institution, calling for the reform of mental health in America. Within a year, he will spearhead the founder of the National Committee for Mental Hygiene
Starting point is 01:23:20 and Education and Advocacy Group. This organization will evolve into the National Mental Health Association, the nation's largest umbrella organization for aspects of mental health and mental illness. We're getting some improvement. In the 30s, take a little step back. Drugs, electroconvulsive therapy, and surgery are used to treat people with schizophrenia, others with persistent mental illnesses. And then some people have a part of their brain, removed surgically, in an operation called
Starting point is 01:23:43 a lobotomy, old Dr. Ice Pick, Big Brain Stabber. Lobotomies will perform widely over the next two decades to treat schizophrenia, depression, anxiety, and obsessions. And surprise, surprise, it didn't always work too well. You can start off with some anxiety and then end up being fucking catatonic. After some quote unquote, Dr. Shuffling Ice ice pick like a literal ice pick sometimes. Into your brain, you know, just going right past your eye
Starting point is 01:24:08 and just wiggling around in your noodle. Man, fuck the past. No thank you on so many levels. Even as a white dude, which means I would have it the easiest of any demographic going back into the past. Zero interest, fuck that noise. 1938 doctors run electric current through the brain,
Starting point is 01:24:25 the beginning of electro shock therapy, to induce convulsions to treat schizophrenia. Doesn't work. Doesn't work that well with schizophrenia. It actually does help with depression and other mental elements. So there is some, and I've actually talked to people, who they still use that, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:39 in a limited way today, and it does help some people with, like, severe depression and a few other things. July 3rd, 1946, US President Harry Truman passes the National Mental Health Act, creates a national Institute of Mental Health, and allocates government funds towards research into the causes and treatments for mental illness.
Starting point is 01:24:56 As a result of this law, the NIMH will be formally established in April 15th, 1949. Also in 1949, Australian psychiatrist Jeff, or J.F.J. Cade introduces the youth of lithium to treat psychosis. Prior to this drug, such as bromides and barbiturate to be used to quiet or sedate patients, but they were ineffective in treating the basic symptoms of psychosis. Lithium will gain wide use in the mid-60s to treat those with manic depression, now known as bipolar disorder, and lithium still commonly used to treat people
Starting point is 01:25:25 with bipolar disorder today. I know some people who use lithium. In the 1950s, a series of successful anti-psychotic drugs introduced that do not cure psychosis, but control its symptoms. The first of the anti-psychotics, the major class of drug used to treat psychosis is discovered in France in 1952.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Thorazine. Studies show that 70% of patients with schizophrenia clearly improve on anti-psychotic drugs. Thorazine. Studies show that 70% of patients with schizophrenia clearly improve on anti-psychotic drugs like Thorazine. So progress, hail, Niamrod. The numbers of hospitalized mentally ill people in Europe and America peak in the 1950s. In England and Wales, there were 7,000 patients in 1950, 120,000 in 1930, nearly 150,000 in 1954. In the US, the number peaked at 560,000 in 1954. And the US number peaked at 560,000 in 1955. By the mid-50s, a push for deinstitutionalization and outpatient treatment begins in many countries facilitated by the development of a variety of anti-psychotic drugs. Deinstitutionalization efforts have by this time reflected a largely international movement
Starting point is 01:26:21 to reform the asylum-based mental health care system, right? Move towards community-oriented care. Based on the belief that psychiatric patients will have a higher quality of life if treated in their communities rather than in large, undifferentiated and isolated mental hospitals. Although large inpatient psychiatric hospitals are still a fixture in certain countries, particularly in central and eastern Europe, in the 50s, the institutionalization movement has begun dramatically change the nature of modern psychiatric care. In the 60s, many seriously mentally ill people are removed from institutions in the US, they're directed
Starting point is 01:26:55 towards local mental health homes and facilities. The number of institutionalized mentally ill people in the US will drop from a peak of like I said, 560,000 to just over 130,000 in 1980, you know, despite the overall population growing in quite a bit. And some of that needs to kind of fucking hate this word. I can say it, but it's just such a mother fucker. Some of this de-institutionalization is possible because of anti-psychotic drugs, which allow many psychotic patients to live more successfully and independently, which is awesome. However, some of the decline in numbers is because, you know, people who used to be put in institutions are now just on the street, which is not awesome. 1963, the closure of state psychiatric hospitals in the US is codified by the Community Mental
Starting point is 01:27:38 Health Centers Act of 63. No, no, no more locking up your wife because she masturbates too much. Also in 63, Congress passes the mental retardation facilities and community health centers construction act. I didn't pick the name. Provides federal funding for the development of community-based mental health services. And the national alliance for the mentally ill founded in 1979. In the 1980s, an estimated one-third of all homeless people are considered seriously mentally ill. The vast majority of them suffering from schizophrenia and 86 advocacy groups banned together
Starting point is 01:28:10 to form the national alliance for research on schizophrenia and depression, trying to find you know, you know, better ways to deal with this population. In the 90s, a new generation of anti-psychotic drugs helps further. 1992, a survey of American jails reports that 7.2% of inmates are overtly and seriously mentally ill, meaning that 100,000 seriously mentally ill people have been incarcerated, over a quarter of them held without charges, often awaiting a bed in a psychiatric hospital. So that's not good. By 2000, the number of state psychiatric hospital beds per 100,000 people was 22, down from
Starting point is 01:28:43 339 in 1955. And that's a problem. And a lot of cities is there's not enough beds, not enough state beds to put people suffering from severe mental illness and they just end up on the street, which is, you know, not good. The institutionalization is a highly polarizing issue. Many studies have reported positive outcomes from community-based health mental health programs, right? Improvements and a lot of behavior,
Starting point is 01:29:06 friendships, patient satisfaction. Other studies report loneliness, poverty, bad living conditions, poor physical health, you know, more harm to the community because the people being out on the street, you know, critics of the institutionalization point it or point out that many patients who have been removed from inpatient psychiatric hospitals
Starting point is 01:29:24 to nursing or residential homes, you know, those places aren't always staffed properly. They don't get the proper medications. And yeah, for lack of a better word, it is insane to me how many severely mentally ill people are living on the street in like Los Angeles. I would just there, you know, recently again, and it's so much worse than even was three years ago. Parts of Venice Beach, downtown LA, parts of Santa Monica
Starting point is 01:29:46 feel like just free-range psychiatric hospitals. Where so many people, like so many people, are clearly severely mentally ill and just wandering around, sad for them and sad for everyone else living there. I addressed this earlier when I was talking about that Starbucks on Santa Monica Monday, I had to stop going to that Starbucks and this was a couple of years ago
Starting point is 01:30:04 because it was just literally too crazy. Like every time I would be in there for more than half an hour, somebody would be fucking screaming, threatening people, walking in, saying weird shit, storming back out, grabbing other people's coffees. One dude, I just sat next to me, like one of the last times I was there and just maybe like six inches from my face and just stared, like just stared at me like a very intense stare just like leaning forward and I'm like, okay, all right, this is, this is enough. So you know, it's tough.
Starting point is 01:30:34 You don't want people to be locked up in institutions, but if you, you know, trying to do more community-based things, then sometimes it's harder to keep track of them because there isn't the funding for all of that. You know, you get to fund that stuff really properly to make it work. And if it doesn't work, then just people are about fucking wandering around the streets and that's not good for anybody. So I don't know. Many experts hope that by improving community-based programs, expanding inpatient care
Starting point is 01:30:54 to fulfill the needs of severely mental-eal patients, the US will achieve improved treatment outcomes, increased access to mental health care, and better quality of life for the mental-eal. I hope it happens. comes increased access to mental health care and better quality of life for the mentally ill. I hope it happens. A lot of people working very hard to help solve what seems like sometimes an unsolvable problem. A lot of people porn their heart and soul and expertise
Starting point is 01:31:12 and to making sure one of the world's most vulnerable populations gets the best care they can. So that is nice to think about. People are working very hard to fix this. We cover so many pieces of shit here on the subject. It's easy to forget that there's a lot of truly wonderful people out there. So who knows, maybe someday we will figure out how to make this world great for everybody, including people with severe mental illness.
Starting point is 01:31:32 I hope that happens. A lot of people are working on it, and that is all for this week's Time Suck Timeline. Good job, soldier. You've made it back. Barely. BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! All right, now after that little bit of history, a little bit of positivity as well.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Let's get back to the irreverent humor that makes time suck an absolute no-go for so many white so serious types. Let's get back to more bizarre mental disorders. Here do we go! Jumping Frenchman of Maine is an extremely rare disorder characterized by an unusually Let's get back to more bizarre mental disorders. Here we go. Jumping Frenchman of Maine is an extremely rare disorder characterized by an unusually extreme startle reaction. Sudden noise or fright elicits an uncontrollable jump. Individuals with this condition can exhibit sudden movements
Starting point is 01:32:16 in all parts of the body. The exact cause of jumping Frenchman of Maine, what a weird name, is unknown, believed to be a neuropsychiatric disorder. One theory is that the disorder occurs because of an extreme condition response to a particular situation influenced by cultural factors. Jumping Frenchman of Maine was first identified during the late 19th century in Maine in the Canadian province of Quebec, among an isolated population of lumberjacks of French Canadian
Starting point is 01:32:41 descent. And if I would have lived around those dudes back then, I would have been startling the shit out of them all the time. So fun, come on, the bigger reaction, the more incentive to mess with them. My great grandma, Stel, would pop up, like if he startled her, she would, like she wouldn't like jump necessarily,
Starting point is 01:32:57 but just like an extreme, startle reaction, eyes bulged, she'd make a hype, it just kind of like when she was startled. And even though she was in her late 80s and looking back, I could have literally killed her by doing this. I would hide around corners and then just pop out and just scare the fucking shit out of her. And I loved it.
Starting point is 01:33:16 And now I also startled very easily and have a big reaction. And I feel like I'm gonna pass out when someone really scares me. And my son Kyler loves it and constantly fucks with me and I gotta say it's less fun. Definitely more fun to be the startle, er, rather than the startle, e. Not much is known about this disorder, but some researchers believe that jumping French from a main may be a somatic neurological disorder. Somatic disorder caused by a gene mutation that occurs after fertilization is not inherited from the parents or passed on to children. The next one, one of a very rare eating disorder called simply Pica.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Pica is an eating disorder that involves eating items not typically thought of as food that do not contain any nutritional value such as hair, dirt or paint chips. Pica is in the DSM-5, the criteria for diagnosis includes the persistent eating of non-nutriv nutritive substances for a period of at least one month. And the eating of non-nutriative substances has to be inappropriate to the developmental level of the individual. You can probably tell this is not a physically beneficial disorder. Dirt and pain chips, most definitely not in the food pyramid. If you pick up a health magazine and read about the dietary habits of an elite level athlete, you're never going to read something like for lunch, Dwayne the Rock Johnson mixes two packets of metrics, extreme size up chocolate
Starting point is 01:34:33 protein mixed with ice, a cup of 1% milk, one banana, two tablespoons of peanut butter, a half cup of frozen blueberries, and a half teaspoon of interior oil-based pain flakes, a full teaspoon of lawn dirt, and three pinches of ginger pubic hair. Unclear how many people are affected by Pica? It can be associated with intellectual disability, various other obscure disorders. The first treatment for Pica usually involves testing for mineral and the first line of treatment involves testing for mineral or nutrient deficiencies and correcting
Starting point is 01:35:05 notes. In many cases, correcting eating behaviors disappears when it wants to deficiencies or correct. So that's pretty sad. Sometimes people don't have the right mineral and they're like, fuck, just give me some dirt. I get my iron one way or another. I think I know someone who has this next disorder. Only onium niya, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Onium niya. Only, only a ma, Nia, Jesus Christ. Only a mania. Also known as compulsive buying disorder, CBD, not the awesome marijuana based CBD. A behavioral disorder characterized by an obsession with spending money in an insatiable urge to buy things. Typically resulting in adverse consequences, it's an extreme form of being a shopaholic. And while the disorder is often overlooked,
Starting point is 01:35:43 it can lead people in financial chaos, compulsive shoppers experience a series of uncomfortable emotions, including heightened anxiety and extreme depression, spending temporarily relieves these symptoms and then makes them feel worse when the shoppers feel the shame and guilt afterwards. Luckily, there's a lot of therapies available for this. And the person I know who I will not name,
Starting point is 01:36:03 I'm not making this up. Once bought several computers and then hid them like a bunch of laptops and then hid them under a guest room bed so his wife wouldn't find them. Like never even use them. Didn't get to use them. Would so afraid of the wife finding them,
Starting point is 01:36:17 but still bottom. Just bought a bunch of fucking computers on credit cards and then hid them. And then hit so much other shit bought a giant expensive couch hid that in his daughter and son-in-law's garage for months. So his wife wouldn't know he'd bought a cute couch. Even weirder bought an ATV even though he had severe back problems that wouldn't allow
Starting point is 01:36:35 him to actually write it. Like he knew buying it, he would never even be able to write it. It literally no use for it. And about like a $15,000 ATV thing, hit that. And where did all that insane shopping lead? To maxed out credit cards in a divorce. Not sure who this disorder is worse for. The person who has it or the spouse
Starting point is 01:36:53 who gets their financial future mother fucked by a rare mental disorder that they may not be able to even understand or believe in. The next disorder can be best explained as self cannibalism. Autofagia occurs when one is compelled to inflict pain upon oneself by biting and or devouring parts of one's own body. Sometimes seamless gets a frenia.
Starting point is 01:37:16 It doesn't appear in the DSM-5. Autofagia can be classified under the DSM's impulse control disorders, not elsewhere classified. Impulse control disorders involve failing to resist an impulse, drive or temptation to perform an act that is harmful to the person or to others. The majority of individuals affected by this disorder will often feel a sense of tension or arousal before committing the act, then experience pleasure,
Starting point is 01:37:38 gratification or relief at the time of the act. Once the act has been completed, they may feel regret, self-reproach, or guilt. I feel like I may have some sort of impulse control disorder. Like my whole life, I've always really, really wanted to say the most fucked up thing possible in any given situation. And sometimes I do. And it does feel really good to get it out,
Starting point is 01:37:57 even when people are horrified. I've actually kind of made a living out of having poor impulse control in some ways. But thank God my impulse isn't to fucking eat myself, God. Maybe old serial killer, King of the Deviant's Albert Fish, maybe he had some kind of impulse control disorder, had a hell of a time, control his age to eat steaming hot, peanut, peanut butter, chovis, that's how I do it in Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:38:17 Uh, three more. Next up, stand all syndrome. And kind of four more, because we're gonna do an instant, it to the internet. There's about one Stendol syndrome or Florence syndrome is a psychosomatic condition involving rapid heartbeat fainting confusion even hallucinous hallucinations Allegedly occurring when individuals become exposed to objects or phenomena. They consider just to be really beautiful Stendol syndrome named after one of the earliest recorded cases this when the French novelist and critic Stendall made himself sick on art in Florence, Italy in 1817.
Starting point is 01:38:48 It's similar to Paris syndrome where tourists will visit Paris for the first time and experience anxiety, dizziness, hallucinations, delusions, and more after they realize that Paris is drastically different from the idealized city they thought it would be. It's like an extreme, weird location specific disappointment. Another extreme form of culture shock is Jerusalem syndrome, where, you know, Tura suffer from obsessive religious thoughts and delusions in the Holy City of Jerusalem. The human brain is so strange in some ways. Man, so fragile in some ways. Next up, the bizarrely named exploding head syndrome.
Starting point is 01:39:23 Exploding head syndrome is where you hear loud noise, like a really loud noise right before you fall asleep or wake up. And nobody else hears it. It can sound like fireworks and actual bomb exploding, like a loud car crash. Some people describe it as like a gunshot, symbols crashing, a lightning strike. Sometimes you hear just a sound, other times you may have a flash of light or muscle twitch occur at the same time. It can come on sporadically. You can hear several sounds one night and then none for a long time
Starting point is 01:39:48 and then have it come back. Researchers don't know much about it. Some scientists think it can be minor seizures or sudden shifts in parts of the middle ear or stress or anxiety and experts don't know how to treat it. So don't get it. Just try not to get it. And the last one I'm going to look at today before the edits of the internet, such a sign of the times. This is a real disorder in DSM 5 called internet gaming disorder.
Starting point is 01:40:12 A condition that needs more research, you know, before it's clearly defined, but it is in the DSM. Online games super popular, at least one person plays video games and two thirds of American households according to the Entertainment Software Association. Roughly 160 million American adults play internet-based games. One recent study estimates and these games can be super addictive. And I do believe they really
Starting point is 01:40:34 can be addictive like true addiction. I've only felt like an addict around video games. I've had to give away multiple gaming systems over the course of my life because I didn't have the willpower to stop playing them if they were near me. I never played World of Warcraft because when I was a few years out of college, right before I deleted it off my computer, I was playing the predecessor, Warcraft III. That's not supposed to be even nearly as addictive.
Starting point is 01:40:55 And I got so into it, I stopped eating regular meals, stopped showering on a regular basis. I would pretend to be asleep until my ex-wife was asleep, and I would sneak out of bed and play all fucking night long. then just be exhausted but then keep playing the next day. The last day I played I didn't even get dressed I just sat naked and Front of the computer didn't shower and brush my teeth It's slaughtered the fuck out of some orcs over and over again. I was just an unstoppable night elf killing machine In the game in real life. I was a greasy sad boy who almost told my ex when she walked in the door
Starting point is 01:41:24 After getting home from work and caught me only wearing pants with no underwear and not even having my teeth brushed her hair combed almost told her I've been jerking off all day because that seemed less shameful than the truth firmly believe the games can be addictive. But it is a question still being debated amongst researchers and health professionals. Gaming addiction is, it's, the DSM-5 notes that gaming must cause significant impairment or distress in several aspects of a person's life. This proposed condition is limited to gaming, does not include problems with general use
Starting point is 01:41:53 to the internet, online gambling, or use of social media, or smartphones. So in some countries including South Korea and China, video gaming has already been recognized as disorder treatment programs have been established. Researchers have recently found that 0.3 to 1% of the US general population might qualify for a potential diagnosis of internet gaming disorder. That's over a million people. The author suggests that it is an important distinction between passionate engagement, someone enthusiastic and focused on gaming and pathology, someone with an illness and an
Starting point is 01:42:24 addiction. When the person is distressed with his or her gaming, that's when it becomes an illness. Okay, so that concludes our investigation into bizarre mental disorders. I mean, we can go on and on and on. I feel like we can get a little bit repetitive, but I do wanna talk about one last condition.
Starting point is 01:42:41 It's another one not in the DSM. It has not really been looked at as a mental illness yet. I think it will be someday definitely fits with this suck. It's called mesophonia and I for sure have it. Mesophonia or hatred or dislike of sound is characterized by selective sensitivity to specific sounds accompanied by emotional distress, even anger, as well as behavioral, behavioral responses such as avoidance. Similar to OCD, misophonia presents itself differently in each individual.
Starting point is 01:43:10 For a person who suffers with misophonia, he or she can revolve a lot of their life around avoiding personal triggers. And I know that word gets overused, and I myself have made fun of that word, but it is the best word to use here. A trigger is a sounder side that causes a misophonic response. It may
Starting point is 01:43:25 be a sound someone makes when chewing, slight pop of the lips, and speaking, little smackin', person whistin'. For a person with misophonia, this can trigger an involuntary action of irritation. If the trigger continues, if they keep fucking smackin', the emotions quickly turn into extreme anger, rage, hatred or disgust. And I love that a misophonial site website says that these emotions are jerked out of the person and trying to stay calm when being triggered is futile. Yeah, so true. You don't want to be angry, but you are fucking enraged. You know, it's crazy, but the feeling stays. Misophonial triggers generally start with the familiar person and a familiar sound, a sound regularly heard in the afflicted life.
Starting point is 01:44:06 A survey was conducted of individuals with Misfoney in 2013, in which two-thirds said their worst trigger was an eating chewing sound. 10% were breathing sounds. The remaining 25% had a variety of worst triggers, including bass through walls. Uh-huh. Dog barking. Shut the fuck up. Coffee. Take a fucking cough drop, clicking sounds.
Starting point is 01:44:28 No thank you. Whistling, parents talking, siblings, the sound produced when, you know, staying words such as sun or chip and someone typing on a keyboard. And I hate all those sounds. Maybe other than parents talking, that one doesn't bother me, but I hate everything else. MesaFoneyInstitute.org offers a simple test and determine if you have mesifony or not. Just two questions, starts with two questions.
Starting point is 01:44:49 Here's the first one. Are there sounds that you cannot tolerate, even if the sound is soft? Yes. Do not eat potato chips around me in a quiet room. You crunchy fuck. Also cannot be around Reverend Dr. Joe when he drinks water.
Starting point is 01:45:05 Because he doesn't, he hasn't just drink it, you guys. He goaps it down like a savage, like he's been in the fucking desert for weeks. Just thinking about it, discuss me, I love him, but it's discuss me. Cannot be around queen of the suck when she eats salads. Why the fuck does she have to scrape the bottom of her bowl with every goddamn bite? You quietly poke the lettuce with the prongs of the fork. That's what it's built for. And then you can gently chew it in your mouth quietly like a decent person instead of a polished monster.
Starting point is 01:45:31 The next question number two, do you instantly have a response to the sound that starts with irritation or disgust and almost immediately becomes anger? Yeah, see above response to question number one. Then the site says if you answer yes to both of those questions, you have miscellaneous questions. Check. How severe have miscellaneous questions. Check. How severe your miscellaneous is depends on your answers to the next survey. So let's see how bad I have it.
Starting point is 01:45:50 Let's see how bad maybe some of you have it. Let's follow along here. Let's play along with this. The site, if you can. The site says the miscellaneous assessment questionnaire was developed by Dr. Martia Johnson. Click on the following link, fill it out, add up your points from all your questions. The maximum score is 63.
Starting point is 01:46:04 The higher your score, the more severe your mesophonia. Okay, so here we go. Mesophonia severity, a score of 0 to 11, subclinical meaning you don't need treatment. And then 12 to 24 is mild, 25 to 37 is moderate, 38 to 50 severe, 51 to 63 extreme. So the rating scale is zero, you know, this doesn't bother you at all. One, a little bit of the time, two, a good deal of the time, three, almost all the time.
Starting point is 01:46:30 Okay, now question number one, my sound or statement number one, my sound issues currently make me unhappy. One, little of the time, one. My sound issues currently create problems for me. One or two, but I'll say one, one, okay. My sound issues have recently made me angry too, if not three, but I'll say one, one, okay. My sound issues have recently made me angry too, if not three, but I'll go conservative too.
Starting point is 01:46:49 I feel that no one understands my problems with certain sounds, one. My sound issues do not seem to have a known cause. No zero, I know what cause they have. It's fucking loud, it's fucking chewers and breathers, drinkers. My sound, number six, my sound issues currently make me feel helpless.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Zero, I'm not full of helpless. Number seven, my sound issues currently interfere with my social life. Yeah, I was, oh, one, little of the time. I won't go to certain restaurants and things because it's just, you know, it's too quiet. I hear the smack in too much. Number eight, my sound issues currently make me feel isolated. One, my sound issues have recently created problems for me in groups. Yeah, two, I've avoided some stuff. My sound issues negatively recently created problems for me in groups. Yeah, too. I can avoid some stuff. My sound issues negatively affect my work life. Joe won. Not as fault, by the way.
Starting point is 01:47:32 I know this is all me. My sound issues currently make me feel frustrated. Two, it is frustrating to get so angry about this stuff. My sound issues currently impact my life negatively. One, yeah, some negativity. My sound issues have recently made me feel guilty. Yes, just today, feel. He's talking about Joe. My sound issues are classified as crazy. Two, I feel that no one can help me with my sound issues. Three, my sound issues currently make me
Starting point is 01:47:55 feel hopeless. No, man, I don't feel like going to be can help, but I don't, hopeless because it's like whatever. Maybe hopeless, I should put it more. I don't know. I feel the sound issues will only get worse with time. Yeah, too. My sound issues currently impact my family relationships, too. My sound issues have recently affected my ability to be with other people, too. My sound issues have not been recognized as legitimate, too. It's real, mom.
Starting point is 01:48:17 And then last, I'm worried that my whole life will be affected by sound issues, three. Adding up all my responses, I got to score 31, right in the middle of moderate. So not bad. I was worried I'd right in the middle of moderate. So not bad. I was worried I'd be in the severe category. And I got to say feels good to know that others have the same thing. You know, enough for a doctor to design a test.
Starting point is 01:48:34 Newmer studies are being done on it. It seems to be an audio processing disorder. My brain amplifies certain background noises to unbearable levels. One bit of recent research indicates that for people with miscellaneous certain background noises can become four times as loud as they are for others. That makes so much sense to me. Sometimes I literally cannot focus on what Lindsay is saying
Starting point is 01:48:54 when we're out together because all I can hear is the motherfucker 30 feet away who just got released from prison, I guess, and didn't get to eat for the past three weeks. And that's how they have to eat their fucking food, like a savage piece of shit. It makes me angry to even think about it. It's so ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:49:09 I do think it's good to have a sense of humor about stuff like this, like any condition or disorder you have. You know, I can laugh at, like, I do realize this is all laughable. And laughing at it takes a serious out of it. A while back, somebody showed me a mesifony of support group on Facebook. And when I saw the post, it was the hardest I laughed and I didn't even know how long. And it also made me feel so good to know that I identified with so many of the crazy posts.
Starting point is 01:49:32 So let's have some laughs at my expense. Let's laugh at some mental illness. Let's laugh at how fucking crazy I am when it comes to sound with a special mesifonious centric idiots of the internet were I in this week's Wacadoodle. It is, I'll be into that, into that. I could have made the entire episode post from this group, but I know that not everyone identifies. So I tried not to make it too much. The admin of the group I chose for this called simply mesiphonial support group, stop
Starting point is 01:50:02 posting on Facebook back in 2016. So the group is closed, there doesn't matter. Cause the posts and comments underneath are timeless. February 21st, 2016, the admin posted, I am not emotionally, I am not emotionally equipped to deal with the sound of a person chewing loudly. Like I could not identify with that more.
Starting point is 01:50:21 Then here are some of the comments. They go all over the place. It's just great. Kathy K. Post is anyone bothered by of the comments. They go all over the place. And it's just great. Kathy K. Post is anyone bothered by certain ways people cough or clear their throats. Sometimes I just want to scream. I like that comment, Kathy. Yep, click it.
Starting point is 01:50:34 I also hate it when somebody sneezes more than twice. It's a weird, I've had it for so long. Like, if you sneeze more than twice, I'm immediately angry. So I'm like, fucking, just get it out. What are you doing? Sneeze, what are you trying to hold it in I'm like, fuck, and just get it out. What are you doing? Sneeze, what are you trying to hold it in for? Sneeze it out and then knock it off.
Starting point is 01:50:49 Shut up, you attention whore. Lori C. Cummins, I have to have a heater or fan on it work and sleep with a fan on. Yep, liked it. Gotta have some kind of noise. First thing I do when I come into the suck dungeon is turn on Spotify every day. So I don't have to hear anybody breathe or smack or drink water.
Starting point is 01:51:06 So I don't have to hear, I feel like it's son of a bitch. So I don't have to hear when Joe P puts his headphones on and he starts to breathe through his nose louder. And then I have to leave the room so I don't want to hate him. And I got to say this feels good to get it off my chest. Test O comments. For our two year wedding anniversary, my husband got me bozed noise cancellation headphones.
Starting point is 01:51:28 They have been an incredible help. We'll go out to dinner. And I'll stay present as long as possible. Ah, and at some point I'll say I need to disappear now and he'll say go ahead, baby. And I'll put on my headphones and everything. Silence. I love to do it in that at dinner.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Living with me is a funnier's hell, but I'm grateful every day for my compassionate husband. Oh, I liked it, Tess. If my, this makes me feel a little bit less crazy, I don't know. If my noise cancellation headphones I have to use, I have Bose ones too. And if I'm out at a coffee shop,
Starting point is 01:51:55 and the batteries go dead, I just leave. Like I can't stay there and work, I have to go home, I have to go to my hotel, come to the office, because if I don't, within five minutes, I will get so angry that I'll start fantasizing about stuff like locking the building, just locking up all the chatty fucks inside that coffee shop and then burning the building to the ground. Scotty D-posts, they could be the nicest person in the world, but an obnoxious chew will
Starting point is 01:52:19 separate me fast as I can. I feel an immense guilt over feeling the anger towards some people when they chew and smack. I'm nearly gagging from them chewing. I want to film them. Then show them what they look and sound like to see if they're still impressed with themselves. Oh, God damn it. I wish I could like it a hundred times. I literally can't be friends with somebody if they chew with their mouth open. No way, no fucking way. Oh man, like a first date like dating, if it was a loud chewer, done.
Starting point is 01:52:52 I don't care if they're the best person in the entire world. Get the fuck away from me. You uncivilized bastard. BA post drives me absolutely insane. My mother-in-law is sitting right next to me eating, and I'm ready to stab myself in the neck, just to stop the sound. Like it B.A. except I would change, stab myself in the neck to stab in her in the neck.
Starting point is 01:53:13 You know, you know the problem, come on, she is. Come on. She's forcing her nasty chew sounds on you, like a dirty monster. She deserves it, right? Tell her to eat outside like a lips-macking dog. That's how she's gonna act. Jennifer C. Post, I had to tell my husband to put his computer away tonight.
Starting point is 01:53:27 So I didn't have to physically harm him. I think my words were stop typing or I swear I will kill you. Or something close to that I can chuckle now, but it was horrible. In my head, it sounded like a thousand insect legs tapping on my brain, only worse than that. Like it. God, yes, I've had that exact sensation where somebody's typing on a computer near me. I don't know why, mostly Lindsey,
Starting point is 01:53:49 when Lindsey types near me. Nope, I don't like it. I don't like to listen to her typing. Another post on the admin is hearing people chew, makes me wanna punch them in the face. Yes, yes! Oh, it's a fantasy I've had like a thousand times times and then a very nice and peaceful looking young woman It's just made it that much funnier to me Olivia M her profile pic is like like she's like pretty like you know
Starting point is 01:54:13 Walk into a forest with a horse looks so serene and peaceful and she posts punch them in the face Well, it's still very far from the horse that crossed my mind when it happens a slaughter Yes, Olivia get it the violence so over the top the rage is so intense Well, it's still very far from the horrors that cross my mind when it happens. A slaughter. Yes, Alevi, I get it. The violence is so over the top. The rage is so intense. I have to get up and walk away from people eating sometimes because I'm afraid I'm just going to snap like a special if I'm tired. Finally, Linda M. Posts, I have to say I burst into tears when I found about misophonia.
Starting point is 01:54:40 Sixty years of thinking something was wrong with me. Intolerance, rudeness. At least now I can understand. take a breath and move on. Yes, you're not alone, Linda M. Neither am I. Neither are you, Mate Sack. Whatever the fuck you have, even the rarest of someone else has it. So try and find some of those people. It feels good. It feels good for many of you to be part of this community to know you're not the only person who tries to do right in the world, but also has a dark, sensey humor and it's kind of fucked up and loves to learn.
Starting point is 01:55:06 I think that's enough for today's rage filled, but also kind of a feel good idiots of the internet. Okay, now let's dispel some myths about mental illness before we get out of here. I'm really loving this suck by the way. Good pick spaces. I would have never thought of this topic. It does feel good to talk about all this. It really does.
Starting point is 01:55:32 One myth I think we've dispelled today is that mental health problems are rare. No. As we noted already, they're very common. Upward to 43.8 million American adults experience a mental illness in any given year. One in 10 young people will go through a period of major depression. That's not rare. Sadly, neither is the suicide this often leads to. Need to know you're not alone thinking suicidal thoughts.
Starting point is 01:55:52 Suicide ranks 10th amongst the leading causes of death in the US. Top 10. It accounts for the loss of more than 47,000 American lives each year, which is more than the number of lives lost to homicide. Over 800,000 people worldwide commit suicide each year. That's close to a million. It's a second leading cause of death in the entire world for people between the ages of 15 and 29.
Starting point is 01:56:14 Studies show that young people that commit suicide 90% of them had an underlying mental condition. So get help, put the clowns back in the car, which is a phrase I made up today, by the way, if you're like, what is that from? Just popped in my crazy head and I like it. About 75% of people who take their own lives are male while transgender adults are nearly 12 times more likely to attempt suicide than the general population.
Starting point is 01:56:36 So got to remove that stigma. More myths to debunk. Another myth, some people believe is that children don't experience mental health problems. You know, just kids being kids. No. The fact is even very young kids may show children don't experience mental health problems. You know, just kids being kids. No. The fact is even very young kids may show early warning signs of mental health concerns. These mental health problems are often clinically diagnosable. They can be the product of the interaction of biological, psychological, and social factors.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Half of all mental health disorders show their first signs before a person turns 14 years old. Three-quarters of mental health disorders begin before the age of 24. Unfortunately less than 20% of children and adolescents with diagnosable mental health problems receive the treatment they need. Early mental health support can help a child before problems interfere with other developmental needs. Another pervasive myth is that people diagnosed with mental health illnesses are violent. The truth is, the vast majority of people with mental health problems are no more likely to be violent than anyone else.
Starting point is 01:57:26 Most people with mental illness are not violent and only 3% to 5% of violent acts can be attributed to individuals living with a serious mental illness. In fact, people with severe mental illnesses are over 10 times more likely to be the victims of violent crime, more than the general population. The next myth goes something like people with the mental health need, you know, can't tolerate the stress of holding down a job. It is true that in the US alone, almost $200 billion of lost earnings is reported due to serious mental illness while the global economy loses about a trillion per year in productivity
Starting point is 01:57:59 due to depression and anxiety. But people with mental health problems, justice productive is other employees. Employers who hire people with mental health issues report good attendance, punctuality, as well as motivation, good work, and job tenure on par with other employees. Another myth is that personality weakness or character flaws cause mental health problems. Basically people with mental health problems
Starting point is 01:58:20 can snap out of it if they try hard enough, and that one is not a myth. That actually is true. I mean, come on, you little wimp turkey, concentrate harder. I'm making your skits a frenzy to go away. Just wish away some bipolar. Get to wish in, motherfucker. No, of course that's a myth.
Starting point is 01:58:35 Mental health problems have nothing to do with being lazy or weak. Many people need to help to get better. Many factors contribute to mental health problems including biological factors such as genes, physical illness, injury, brain chemistry, life experiences such as trauma or a history of abuse, family history of mental health problems.
Starting point is 01:58:52 Another myth is there's no hope for people with mental health problems. You know, once a friend or family member develop mental complications, he or she will never recover. That's not true. Studies show that people with mental health problems get better and many recover completely with treatment.
Starting point is 01:59:06 Lots of studies show this. It improves all the time. Another myth is that you can't do anything for a person with a mental health problem. I think we know this is wrong. The truth is that friends and loved ones can make a huge difference. Only 44% of adults with diagnosable mental health problems
Starting point is 01:59:19 and less than 20% of kids and adolescents receive needed treatment. Friends and family can be an important influence to help someone get the treatment they need. So reach out, let them get that, you know, let them know it's okay that no one thinks they're crazy, you know, and support them. Getting treatment not feeling bad about treatment
Starting point is 01:59:35 is so important. I've been slow to come around to this, even though I studied psychology in college, I also came from a, you know, family where no one wants to deal with anything. And it's silly. If you have a physical ailment and a doctor can make you feel better,
Starting point is 01:59:48 why wouldn't you go? Why needlessly suffer? I've done that a lot myself and I've been an idiot. There's no reason to needlessly suffer mentally or physically, right? Therapy can be a game changer for anyone battling the mental illness, whether mild or severe. Everyone can benefit from mental health professional
Starting point is 02:00:04 talking to them from time to time, research has shown therapy works. It's positive effects can endure for years. I hear some good info on how beneficial therapy can be. According to a study from Johns Hopkins School of Public Health, even a few sessions with the therapist can lower the risk of suicide among at-risk patients. A 2014 study found that people suffering from major depression are more likely to improve
Starting point is 02:00:26 with the combination of therapy and medication as opposed to just medication. As described by 2010 research, the benefits of therapy continue to grow even after treatment is ended. And on the other hand, the lack of treatment for mental health disorders can be one of the most, can be, you know, very harmful.
Starting point is 02:00:42 One of the most significant crisis of our time, perhaps. You know, if we were to treat mental health issues that affect millions of Americans, we would expect to see a decrease in physical ailments and increase in longevity. Perhaps surprisingly, a stronger economy, the problem is that many of us don't understand the consequences of not treating mental illness. There are some quick facts on what can happen when you don't treat it. You know, risk of suicide, you know, an increase. The majority of suicide deaths can be attributed
Starting point is 02:01:06 to mental illness. The 10th leading cause of death for all age groups, 2nd for young adults, suicide accounts for about 113 deaths a day. That can be significantly reduced if more treatment was around or if more people sought treatment. Stress, mental illness can cause serious health problems such as stroke, cardiovascular disease, high blood pressure.
Starting point is 02:01:24 People with depression have a 40% higher risk of developing cardiovascular and metabolic diseases than the general population. People with serious mental illness are nearly twice as likely to develop these conditions. Untreated mental illness decreases adult life spans in the US. People living with mental illness die an average of 25 years earlier. In large part due to chronic medical conditions caused by not treating mental illness. Stats like these, you know, they're striking, they're thought provoking, they highlight
Starting point is 02:01:52 the urgency in our country, and in many other countries to make mental health care more of a priority. Not something to be ignored, so don't ignore it. You get a little therapy, you know, you don't have to be some neurotic cry baby just because you're getting therapy, you know. I feel like you believe that myself from time to time.
Starting point is 02:02:07 For those of you struggling with mental illness, just knowledge is power, know that the struggle really is real. Understand that your challenges are real. Nothing, you know, to be ashamed of, that effective treatments towards wellness are available, they are out there. You know, that's the first step
Starting point is 02:02:21 towards making life more manageable is just getting that help. So get it. So hail, Nimrod. I hope you're doing okay with your, with your noodle. Let's hit those top five takeaways right now. Time, suck. Top five takeaways.
Starting point is 02:02:37 Number one, lots of people experience, you know, mental illness. You might have a mental disorder. I might and so might 25% of the globe at any given time. Number two, mental health, a vast topic. We went over a lot today, but we just barely scratched the surface. Hopefully we went over enough to make it clear that in every aspect of the mental health world,
Starting point is 02:02:55 including suicide prevention, science has progressed our understanding of mental health, and that's a great thing. No more getting locked to the dungeon or taking an appointment with Dr. Ice Pick, McBrain Stabber. Number three, try and chill a little more quietly if you could. It's unbearable. Number four, more effort could be put into the destigmatization of mental illness and
Starting point is 02:03:14 we could seriously save a lot of lives. So much of the reason people don't get help is because of the unwarranted stigma attached to issues of the mind. It's no different than seeing a doctor for a physical ailment. And number five, new info. Let's look at one more aspect of mental disorders. And that is the incredible genius of savants. I have always been fascinated by savants.
Starting point is 02:03:31 A savants syndrome is a rare but extraordinary condition in which persons with serious mental disabilities, including autistic disorder, have some kind of island of genius, which stands in marketed, market, my god, marked marked incongruous contrast to their overall handicap. As many as one in 10 persons with autistic disorder have such remarkable abilities in varying degrees, although Svant, Svant syndrome occurs in other developmental disabilities or in other types of central nervous system injuries or diseases as well. Whatever the particular Svant skill always linked to massive memory power. Savants have a lot of RAM.
Starting point is 02:04:08 The special memory power may aid in rapid calculation, artistic ability, map making or musical ability. A famous example is Rainman, right? Even though you've probably never heard of Kim Peek, chances are you've heard of the movie Rainman. Kim was the inspiration for the character played by Dustin Hoffman in that movie. Kim Peek was born with severe brain damage. His childhood doctor told Kim his father to put him in an institution. Forget about him. Yeah, it was a different time as a worst time.
Starting point is 02:04:33 Kim severe developmental disabilities according to the doctor would not ever let him walk, let alone learn. Kim's father thankfully disregarded the doctor's advice until he died in December of 2009. Kim struggled with ordinary motor skills, did have difficulty walking, was severely disabled, could not button a shirt, tested far below average on a general IQ test. However, what Kim could do was fucking astounding. He read some 12,000 books and remembered everything about them. 12,000 books and remembered everything about them. Computer, as he was lovingly known to many, could unbelievably read two pages at once. His left eye reading the left page, I don't even understand how this is possible.
Starting point is 02:05:13 Left eye reading the left page, right eye reading the right page, took him about three seconds just to read through two pages, just like a scan. And he would remember everything that he had read on them. He could recall facts and trivia from 15 different subject areas from history, to geography, to sports. People could tell him a date and Kim could quickly tell you what day of the week that date and history was. He remembered every song he'd ever heard, even one with lyrics that are pretty ironic. So we're talking about great memory. I keep forgetting now in love anymore. I keep forgetting things will never be the same again. I keep forgetting how you made that so clear. I keep forgetting, but Kim picked it not. He remembered every motherfucking thing. I remember to McDonald you again.
Starting point is 02:06:06 Triple Lamy lives on. And that is all for today's top five takeaways. Time, suck, top five takeaways. The ZAR mental health disorders has been sucked. Hail Nimrod, and chill with your fucking mouth closed. You get it, you get it now. Thanks to the time suck team, thanks to Queen of the Suck Lindsey Cummins, high priest to Suck, Harmony Velocamp,
Starting point is 02:06:28 Reverend Dr. Paisley, the Middle-Alics Air app design crew, Logan and Kade at Spicy Club, check out the new store, Scripkeeper Zach Flannery, check out the Cullth de Curie's private Facebook group. If you wanna, you know, me to new Cullth member. If you wanna make some more friends,
Starting point is 02:06:43 get more social in 2020. We now have over 15,000 members in there. Pretty, pretty soon it's gonna be a small city's worth of suckers. I'm pumped. Right now it's a pretty healthy size virtual cult compound, you know, pretty healthy size town of a virtual cult compound. You can also bounce over to the time stock discord channel, almost 5,000 die hard suckers in there.
Starting point is 02:07:02 Next week we're going over declassified military documents. Another off the beaten path, kind of topic. The script keepers are already getting a jump on it. I'll be starting on it tomorrow. What are we going to be talking about? Honestly, still figuring that out. Maybe we'll talk about how in late 2012, the U.S. Air Force declassified a trove of documents, including records of a secret program to build a flying saucer-type aircraft, designed to shoot down Soviet bombers. This ambitious program called Project 1794
Starting point is 02:07:30 was initiated in the 50s and a team of engineers tasked with building a disc-shaped vehicle, capable of traveling at supersonic speeds. Maybe we'll talk about Operation Northwoods. The tense relationship between the US and Cuba during the Cold War led to the CIA, hatching a slew of bizarre schemes aimed at taking down Castro. While the goal of the most, of, you know, most of these covert operations such as Operation Mongos was to assassinate Castro himself, other plans aimed to incite an all-out war between the US and Cuba. In 1998, the NSA, non-governmental organization that publishes information made available through the Freedom of Information Act, posted declassified documents related to Operation
Starting point is 02:08:10 Northwood. The scheme dreamed up in 1962 by the Joint Chiefs of Staff involved committing acts of violence against U.S. and Cuban civilians on U.S. soil, then blaming those acts on the Cuban government. These acts included faking terrorist attacks in US cities, hijacking of planes, sinking of boats, and then all of that would be used to justify a war against Cuba. The Kennedy administration recognized the folly of operation or towards and rejected it, but what if they hadn't? Would we even know about that operation today? Going to be some real fun conspiracy-ish stuff to dig into.
Starting point is 02:08:46 And now let's dig into the community with today's Time Sucker Updates. Kicking things off with a cool new message update in an old suck. The 9-11 suck from September of 17, awesome vet, meat sack, Timothy Adams wrote, Dan Motherfuck and Suck Master come with you delightful son of Nimrod. I've been a huge fan of yours since the first time I ever heard of your standup,
Starting point is 02:09:13 pretty sure it was on Pandora Radio, and while I was training for my deployment to Afghanistan back in 2011. Every time I set a trade down in a chow hall, I giggle to myself thinking, here come the spoons, motherfucker. I've been sort of skipping around time, stuck here and there trying to catch up
Starting point is 02:09:28 over the last five or six months since I first started. I went back to my unplayed episodes today, found one I knew was bound to trigger me extra hard, the 9-11 suck. After having the worst experiences of my life over in Afghanistan as a direct result of that day, and having that deployment kind of ruined my personal life, typical deployed soldier with a cheat and wipe at home.
Starting point is 02:09:47 I knew that this particular episode was going to bring back a lot of emotions I intended to keep bottled up. So glad that I today gave in and listened. The conspiracy nut jobs I have to listen to still to this day infuriate me and I cannot wait to have them all take a listen before letting them assault my meat sack processing unit with their lack of facts.
Starting point is 02:10:05 The part of the episode that really made me want to write in was the ending. The quick stories you gave about the heroes who gave their lives knowingly to save others in the towers as they burned. Those brave men and women are the reason I enlisted in the US Army at barely 18 years old. I sacrificed my life as I knew back home before even shipping out because if those heroes could run back into burning towers, they had to assume we're going to collapse soon. The least I could do is deal with the divorce to go and honor their memories by fighting
Starting point is 02:10:29 the evil sons of bitches that made that day into the horrific monster of a memory that it is. Sorry for the super long email, but if you do ever get to reading it, thank you for bringing an actual tears to my eyes over a small handful of people whose names I didn't even know before you spoke them. You sir are an amazing human being. I wanted to say thank you so much for what you do the entire time. So team family and community.
Starting point is 02:10:50 You're not just informed or informed or an entertainer. You're an amazing meat sack motivating not just me, but my fellow battle buddies, even my teenage sons to learn and grow and understand the world better, hopefully make it a better place for more meat sacks in the future. Hail mother fucking Nimrod. Hail his voice embodied in the fucking comments. And certainly Timothy Adams, yeah, SGT Timothy Adams. I believe that's Sergeant, but I was getting nervous if I don't positively know and I'm
Starting point is 02:11:14 gonna fuck it up and be insulting. But you are an amazing human being. Timothy, you're the one who went overseas, not me. So if I'm amazing, you're a word that means more than amazing. Mazeballs, marvelous, metalist fuck. I'm not me. So if I'm amazing, your award that means more than amazing. Mazeballs? Marvelous? Metalist fuck? I'm not sure. But seriously, thank you so much for your service. So glad you've enjoyed all this and just honored that I've been along with you to some important places for some of your brave adventures and some small way. So heal them not to you. And it sounds like you're raising some good case, man. It's awesome.
Starting point is 02:11:45 Now in Oklahoma Girl Scout murders update, from an Oklahoma sucker named Jason, Jason writes, Danny Boy, I just listened to the Oklahoma Girl Scout murders episode and anytime you come close to mentioning Oklahoma and or Oklahoma law enforcement, I can't keep my mouth shut. You made mentioned the man hunt for Gene Hart was the largest man hunt in Oklahoma history.
Starting point is 02:12:02 I don't know if you meant, excuse me, at that time or of all time, yeah, sorry Jason, that was a poor phrasing. I didn't mean up until that time. I'm not sure if there's been larger manhunts done since poor phrasing on my part. And then Jason writes, you most likely don't remember but I'm also a police officer in Oklahoma city. Not being from Oklahoma, you probably don't remember
Starting point is 02:12:20 the manhunt from Michael Vance, yet I did not remember this. It was some of the most intense weeks I've ever had as a law enforcement officer. I knew my chances of an encounter for Michael Vance. Yeah, and I did not remember this. It was some of the most intense weeks I've ever had it as a law enforcement officer. I knew my chances of an encounter with Michael Vance were slim to none with the area I normally patrol being close to the state capital and much more of an urban setting. It was obvious Michael Vance was staying in more rural areas and staying out of the populated areas of the Oklahoma City Metro.
Starting point is 02:12:39 But I do have some rural areas that butted up to where he was known to have committed some of his crimes along with two main thoroughfares, I-35, I-40. It was incredibly unnerving knowing any traffic stop could be him, and I may be immediately met with rifle fire. I do not remember any criminal being searched for quite to the magnitude of him in my short career. You may have seen the ending of this manhunt without realizing it though. Trooper Costanza engaged him in a pursuit that ended in a gunfight between troopers and
Starting point is 02:13:04 Michael. You will probably recognize the footage after watching it. trooper castanza engage him in a pursuit that ended in a gun fight between troopers and michael you will probably recognize the footage after watching it uh... i watched that i had not seen it before wow man they took him out intense firefight at the end there and then jason writes another man hunt uh... that was just as involved and used as many if not the uses many if not more resources was the man hunt for timothy mcvey the only reason this may not be listed as the largest is because it ended too quickly. Dude, a pure chance when McVeigh was pulled over for driving a vehicle without a license plate. McVeigh was arrested for unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon.
Starting point is 02:13:33 The man hunt for him would have been much larger if you had been given a chance to go into hiding before being pulled over in Perry, Oklahoma. I know it sounds like a broken record request in an episode of Time Suck over the Oklahoma City bombing, but it is absolutely a fascinating story with some amazing police work done to track him down and then realizing he was already in custody in Perry, Oklahoma. If you do happen to do Time Suck over the Oklahoma City bombing,
Starting point is 02:13:54 I'd love to help you out with research anyway. I can, my wife and I can't resist saying, research like you do in your standup, where you say, you're taking it and learning away in the basement, I will do any research fully closed, or fully closed. I purchased tickets for your standup when you come to Oklahoma City the day I heard about it.
Starting point is 02:14:10 If you're in town while I'm working, I'd love to have you come for a ride along if I'm not training a rookie. I also strongly urge you to go to the Bomb Me Memorial while you're in town, make sure to bring tissues with you because you'll be crying, seen all the empty chairs on the lawn.
Starting point is 02:14:21 It's absolutely beautiful memoriam to the victims. Can't wait to see No Clown of City. Hope you're enjoying the Thumpers Jason, Oklahoma City. Well, thank you, Jason. Yes, we have the Thumpers hanging up in the office and more of your woodwork. Luckily, no one has been thumped.
Starting point is 02:14:34 Those things are heavy. That would fuck somebody up. Looking forward to seeing you in Oklahoma City, excited for those shows and also, yes, to Oklahoma City bombing. I did put that on the list for a time-soaked episode for 2020. Please send any research you have to Zach at timesoakedpodcast.com to get it going.
Starting point is 02:14:50 And that's Z-A-Q. Zach with the Q. I don't know. I don't know why he makes terrible choices like that. His parents maybe didn't like him as much when he was born. I don't know. I don't know. Now another suicide prevention update coming in from an awesome
Starting point is 02:15:02 meat sack, Ryan Fossom, writes dear master sucker profit in Nimrod Praise her but jangles hailer lucet phina and butchered Of my McDonald's son is that's fair This is about the time sucker update from the guy thinking about suicide who is asking for advice after years of having thoughts of suicide I think I have advice that would work for most people live for somebody else I've had suicidal thoughts for years still still do, but when I do think about suicide, I also think about how much my family loves me. Think about what suicide would do to your loved ones, because once you kill yourself, your pain may be over, but you are just passing that
Starting point is 02:15:35 pain on to all the people who care about you. I hope if you read this on the podcast, my advice helps someone Ryan Fossum. And thanks for putting in rhymes with awesome. Yes, thank you, Ryan, that's great. Thanks for sharing that with us. I Yes, thank you Ryan. That's great. Thanks for sharing that with us. I mean, who knows who needed to hear that this week. You could have quite literally just saved a life. Now here's a funny little Cummins law update. I love these so much from Caitlin T. And I love the name Caitlin, by the way.
Starting point is 02:15:58 That's a great name. I love that I act in my head like people pick their names. Like you get a choice in matter. I mean, I guess you could change it. Whatever. Anyway, Kaelin writes, Dear Master of Sucking, I recently found out about time sucked by listening to your comedy in Pandora and have been hooked since and my fiance found scared to death and we love seeing you in Lindsay every week. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 02:16:18 I've been making my way through episodes off on this small amount of gym. Yesterday, I was listening to the Pancho via episode and went to connect my phone to my Bluetooth headphones. I kept pressing play and couldn't hear anything. Finally, I hear the next guy next to me say, what the fuck? And I realized I had connected to his headphones. Well, while you were contemplating how many human ears could fit into a potato sack.
Starting point is 02:16:42 Thought you would like to hear about the reaction you give non-time suckers keep on sucking. Oh, thank you, Caitlin. Oh, yeah, I can only imagine I bet he was thinking what the fuck with no context. That's some creepy shit to hear. I mean, it's creepy with context next level creepy without it. Thank you for sharing that definitely made me laugh. And now I want to end on getting a nice new perspective on the death penalty, which obviously I've had strong opinions about, uh, send him by super stucker, Ryan Brewster, uh, love how you're making me rethink some stuff here, Ryan. Ryan writes, hello.
Starting point is 02:17:12 So I absolutely agree with you on the emotional desire to end the life of disgusting violent criminals. However, I wanted to add the logistical reasons I have for being against the death penalty. Firstly, our broken prison systems should be limited to only these piles of shit and more focus on rehabilitation for nonviolent offenders, drug offenses, etc. With prison reform, the cost of incarcerating those who truly want out of society forever would still be greatly reduced by reducing the amount of inmates that still have hope to be a value to society.
Starting point is 02:17:42 But that is a whole other can of worms. The main reason is more strategic. that is a whole other can of worms. The main reason is more strategic. Prison is a hot, excuse me. Prison is a hotbed of bragging and informal details of crime spreading through inmates. It is very often that violent offenders will eventually reveal information to another inmate, be willing to give more details of crimes for additional perks, etc. For the sake of closure for victims, I feel that having three scumbags incarcerated together for life is not only a worst punishment,
Starting point is 02:18:10 but a possible future opportunity for more evidence or details or straight up confessions because they talk. The chance of an innocent person being convicted is also a concern, but having a direct line of new information on cold cases or unsolved crimes should be considered. Long time fan of yours stand up in podcasts as well as your Alicon life, morality, logic,
Starting point is 02:18:27 critical thinking, so I wanted to chime in with my two cents. Apologize for any typos or grammatical errors. I'm composed into my phone without my glasses, but with some whiskey instead, long live the suck, Ryan Bruce. Well, you did a good job. You did a good job there on the phone with some whiskey, no glasses. I'll be honest, I did not think for a second about
Starting point is 02:18:46 information closing cold cases, that aspect of this. So, okay, all right. Emotionally, still want to kill these worthless foxes, but I see what you're saying. And the name of solving more cases, right? Bringing about more closure to families, victims, maybe you're right. Maybe life in prison is better.
Starting point is 02:19:05 I just hate saying that. I just hate them getting to have moments of joy going forward, but that is probably true. You may be changing my mind as I feel like I have to think about it more. But thanks for making me think. And thanks, thank all of you for being a part of this awesome community, long live the suck. Thanks, time suckers.
Starting point is 02:19:25 I need a net. We all did. That's all for today. More content coming this week. A new scared to death drops tomorrow night. The secret suck here on Thursday. Have a great week. See a therapist.
Starting point is 02:19:38 If suddenly you think you're a cow or you decide you need to eat a pain chip sandwich, please don't eat potato chips around me or sneeze more than twice in a row like a fucking just, you know, just drag of society and mostly just, you know, keep on sucking. 감사합니다!

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