Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 175 - Declassified Military Documents

Episode Date: January 20, 2020

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What military secrets has the US government hid from its citizens and from the rest of the world? What information and operations have been declassified? What has been leaked? Getting into that today and looking at a fair share of formally classified or at least covered up incidents in the non-military sector as well. We're here.

We might as well look around. Can you trust the government? Does the government lie to you? Are you, you know, are a lot of conspiracy theorists maybe a little less crazy than I once thought. This week's suck is going to haunt me. It might have changed me. I might be a little bit more wacky-doodle than I was last week.

Today we're going to go over what types of information can become classified, what the levels of classification mean. We'll define a lot of secret information terminology, and we'll also dig into a lot of former secrets. Like when the US government snuck over former Nazi scientists to work on rockets and weapons or when the CIA framed innocent people for murders in Italy to destabilize communist dissidents. Or that one time the CIA tried to turn a cat into a cyborg spy. Uh-huh. We'll go over some Vietnam cover-ups. We'll look into it. It's a super shady secret experiment done on American soil on unknowing American citizens by members of their own government. Trust no one.

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That was an interesting to go from Bofomet to Tim Teveau. Okay. Enough announcements. Now turn your speakers down. Only whisper for the next two hours or so. Keep it quiet! We're going to get top secret. It's time for declassified military documents. For this installment of this sweet, sweet suck, this edition of the Thought Canal Fuckery, we have an absolute cornucopia of declassified military documents and some non-military documents to share with you.

As we began research in this, it became very clear that one of the more popular ways of declassifying documents is to well leak them. That point, they may not be officially declassified, but we're counting it. Now we're going to get the peak behind the top secret military industrial complex curtain. Check out what they're hiding in there. They're file cabinets.

Millions of documents have been either leaked or released through normal channels over the years and here at TimeSuck, we've actually already covered a number of them. So I'm going to get that out of the way up here at TimeSuck, we've actually already covered a number of them. So I'm gonna get that out of the way up here at the front of this suck. We have two sucks on UFOs that cover declassified projects like Project Grudge, Project Bluebird, a number of military operations that looked into what are now called

advanced aerospace threat identification programs. You can check out a re-suck episodes 99. That's Area 51 Secret Weapons Program or Alien Experimentation. And you can also go back to bonus suck number two, way back, Alien Extravaganza. Roswell, Area 51, UFOs, a lot of stuff to dig in, declassified type stuff. You can dig into no sucks. We've also already covered a few false flags that were uncovered via declassified documents.

In the 9-11 suck, that's suck number 52, we investigated Operation Northwoods a bit, at least talked about it somewhat. That's a conspiracy to kill Americans on American soil, to gain public support from Vating Cuba. That was an idea that was proposed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but not seriously considered by President Kennedy.

At least that's what the truth seems to be. Pretty fucked up that it was even considered by anyone in our government, but I'm not surprised. The US has done a lot of great, great things, but we've also done a lot of shitty things as well. Definitely have a fair share of skeletons in the closet. As you'll find out today, we also delved into the Gulf of Tonkin incident in our more recent Vietnam suck, sup 139. This is where we learned that the start of Vietnam did not happen as far as the Vietnam

conflicts, you know, the US involvement did not happen in the way it was sold by the US military to the rest of the world. The US government tricked John Q public into thinking we had to attack the North Vietnamese because they had attacked us on August 4th, 1964, but it didn't actually play out, you know, like the way things were originally portrayed. Certain story elements for manufactured to make the North Vietnamese seem a lot more hostile than actually were towards the US. You definitely a bit of a false flag operation there, both Northwoods and the Gulf of

Tonkin show that the US government has historically been capable of staging attacks to justify military confrontations. High ranking US military officers were willing to kill American citizens on American soil or manipulatively exaggerate enemy aggression as part of some end justifies the means Cold War victory strategy. Pete-Gate also has its roots in some declassified or leaked material. We won't go over that here today either since we dedicated an entire suck to it. If you'll recall that really happened. High ranking politicians were in fact emailing each other about how they wanted to rape

kids and cages at a local pizza place. Have to grab in a few meat lovers and Hawaiian slices and they got away with it. No, it's not what I found in that suck. I think that sucked number 64 pissed off more listeners than any other single episode. I thought about pizza gate since and I still think high ranking politicians, keeping kids and cages in the basement of a DC pizza joint, it doesn't have a basement, it is complete and utter nonsense.

But I'm open to a lot more things outside of that after the research this week. One of the most classified areas has been America's development of... New clear. Weapons, still sometimes we'd rather push that button and say that word, but I'm not going to be pushing all the time because I got to say it too many times today on this suck. And I'm just going to say it how my mouth wants to say it.

We did cover a huge now declassified nuclear project, the Manhattan Project in suck 164. There are still plenty of other secret new projects to suck on today, like project Iceworm. And And at one time the US military almost nuke the shit out of North Carolina true story. We're gonna talk about that Another really important declassified document category They will be covering today that we haven't covered here as well. What I like to call it government overreach This includes infuriating subjects like the Tuskegee syphilis study the NSA on all Americans, and a number of unethical tests done on the public. The subject would also include the fascinating top secret project, M.K. Ultra, but we already sucked M.K. Ultra way back in bonus number eight.

So if you're new to the suck and this topic brought you here, well, oh boy, who doggy. So there's a whole bunch of shit that might flow your conspiracy boat that we've already talked about. So you got hours of stuff digging to. Lots of stuff we already dig into today. Like the Meal Eye Masquer and Vietnam, some Cold War space race shit, so much more.

First, let's get familiar with the basic concept of classified and declassified military documents. What even is classified information? In the US, information is called classified if it has been assigned to one of three levels, confidential, secret, or gets a fuck out of here before a puncher mom and the neck, aka top secret. Information that is not given one of these labels

is called unclassified information. The term declassified is used for information that has had its classification removed and downgraded refers to information that has been assigned a lower classification level, but is still classified. The United States government classifies information according to the degree, which the unauthorized disclosure would damage national security. Information is also classified if the illuminati feels like keeping it hidden, you know, would

further progress, you know, plans for the eventual new world to take over of every nation, bringing about long held Zionist goals of Gentile subjugation and the creation of a global slave class that will include everyone but our elite reptilian masters. Wait, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute. No, that last part wasn't right. Sorry, I thought I was David Ike for a second. How did you didn't plane sight? I'm good now, I think.

Hopefully I get that nonsense out of my system for a bit. Who determines all these levels of classification? Carl Weathers does. Wait the fuck up. What do you think action Jackson been doing the last 20 plus years after he stopped making some of the best movies of all time, like Rocky Predator, happy Gilmore and action Jackson?

He's been deciding what the US government and military information, what's information to a secret, what gets released to the public. And if you don't, you know, know that, well, you ain't nothing but a bum. That of course is not exactly true. It's not even the ballpark of true. The president of the US of F and A decides it for the most part. Since all federal departments are part of the executive branch, the classification system

is governed by executive order rather than by law. Typically, each president will issue a new executive order, either tightening classification or loosening it. The Clinton administration made a major change in the United States government's classification system by issuing an executive order that for the first time allowed all acting and former presidents and their spouses to be immune from prosecution from unlimited murdering. Where are the bodies, Kellery? Where are the bodies? You pizegate masterminding, sulfur smelling demon, which motherfucker? Sorry, thought I was Alex Jones for a second, trying to keep it together today, but it's

tough. I was talking about secrets, it's really kind of frazzled me up a little bit. I know the Clinton's executive order required all classified documents to be declassified after 25 years unless they were reviewed by the agency that created the information and determined to require continuing classification in the interest of national security. So unless, you know, so really people can just keep stuff classified for as long as they want with these kind of things. It's like, yeah, it's going to be released after 25 years unless they don't want it to be then it just isn't. And that was executive order 12958 is issued on April 17, 1995. Now let's go over some terms related to classified and declassified documents.

The US government uses the terms SBU, sensitive but unclassified SSI, sensitive security information, CPI, critical program information, FOUO for official use only or LES law enforcement sensitive to refer to information that is not confidential secret or top secret, but whose dissemination is still restricted. They also use the term DTF down to fuck when talking about people that they're, you know, kind of just kind of hoping to fuck. Like an email form, it might show up in a way like, hey, PTA didn't work out, I'm still horny.

So who do you have locked up in cages right now? I am DTF AF. Okay, let's get back to more terms that pertain to reality now. And not to some undiagnosed mental illness I probably have. PSS, public safety sensitive. That refers to information that is similar to law enforcement sensitive, but could be shared between the various public safety disciplines, law enforcement, fire, emergency medical services.

Reasons for such restrictions can include export controls, privacy regulations, court orders and ongoing criminal investigations, as well as national security. Some classified terms were specifically created for use in covert operations like the Manhattan Project, SUP 164, terms like restricted data, restricted data, formally restricted data, our classification markings that concern nuclear information. These are the only two classifications that are established by federal law, being defined by the atomic energy act of 1954. Nuclear information is not automatically declassified after 25 years. Documents with nuclear information covered under the atomic energy act will be marked with

the classification level, confidential secret or top secret, antiristricted data or formally restricted data marking. And that shit is kept secret for as long as the powers to be decide it is important to keep that secret. Can't let other nations just have willingly access to our new secrets after 25 years. Or ever. Totally get that. I would actually be pretty upset if we were doing that, you know.

Here you go, Iran, North Korea. Let us know if you need any help while I'm really getting the shelf to ground. Whatever we can do, to be a good neighbor. Good luck with those nukes. Nuclear information is specified in the act may inadvertently appear in unclassified documents and must be reclassified whenever it is discovered. Even documents created by private individuals have been seized for containing nuclear information and classified.

Only the Department of Energy may declassify nuclear information. I'm not even allowed to consistently say the word nuclear correctly. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That is why I messed it up so many times, you know. That's it. CIA government will let me say correctly because it's classified or something totally fucking. Yeah, you get it. It's part of like the CPI or SSI or DTF OMG, YOLO, BSD, BRB, you know, you get it.

You guys get it. Top secret is the highest level of classification. Not everyone with clearance to one piece of top secret information has legal access to other top secret information. Top secret info is often compartmentalized by adding a code word. So only those who have been cleared for each code word can see it. This information is also known as sensitive compartmented information, C or SCI. Man, a lot of acronyms.

So I'd feel like I'm going to spy school or something right now. A document marked secret insert code word here, you know, could be viewed only by a person with a secret or top secret clearance with that specific code written on it. Each code word obviously deals with different kinds of information and the CIA administers, you know, code word clearances. Top secret is defined as top secrets will be applied to information the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security that the original classification authorities able to identify or describe

so it sounds pretty serious. I believe that 1.4 million Americans have top secret clearances and I bet Alex Jones is furious that he is one of those 1.4 million Americans have top secret clearances and I bet Alex Jones is furious that he is one of those one point four million Americans. Also how many of those one point four million Americans are Russian spies seriously based on past spy successes. I bet at least a hundred. Bojangles is growling me right now, but you know, sorry, buddy, Russians have been very, very good at infiltrating our government for a very long time.

Gotta give credit what credit to do. Secret is the second highest classification. Information is classified secret when it's unauthorized. This closure would cause serious damage to national security. Most information that is classified is held at the secret level of sensitivity. Sounds so much less cool when it doesn't have the word top in front of it. What was that? Was that top secret information? No, but it is secret information. Want one to look see? Nah, I'm busy dicking around on Instagram. Confidential is the lowest classification level

of information obtained by the government, defined as information that would damage national security if publicly disclosed again without the proper authorization. Sounds way less cool than top secret stuff. Hey, bro, you want to check out this confidential information? No, stop bothering me. Try to watch some mat lock.

Gotta find out if Ben's gonna close this case. Then there is the public trust level, which is not actually a level. Public trust position is not actually a security clearance despite the common misconception that it is. It's also not the same as the confidential clearance level, which is another common misconception. Certain positions which require access

to sensitive information, but not information that is classified and people working in those positions called public trust positions must pass a special background check. Public trust positions can either be moderate risk or high risk, all these different levels. Unclassified, not technically a classification, that's just a default classification given to any info

that can be released to individuals without any kind of clearance at all. However, information that is unclassified, not technically a classification, that's just a default classification, given to any info that can be released to individuals without any kind of clearance at all. However, information that is unclassified is sometimes restricted in its dissemination labeled as sensitive but unclassified, or for official use only. SPU, FOU, O, more acronyms. Finally, information at one level of classification

may be upgraded by aggregation to a higher level. For example, a specific technical capability of a weapon system might be classified secret, but the aggregation of all technical capabilities of the system in one single document could be deemed top secret. There was yet another level of unclassified called controlled unclassified came about under the George W. Bush administration. On May 9, 2008, President Bush issued a presidential memorandum in an attempt to consolidate the various designations and use into a new category known as controlled, unclassified information, C-U-I. The C-U-I category and subcategories

were hoped to serve as the exclusive designations for identifying unclassified info throughout the executive branch, not covered by executive order 12, two, nine, five, eight, or the atomic energy act of 1954, but still required safeguarding or dissemination controls pursuant to and consistent with any applicable laws, regulations, and government-wide policies in place at the time. This memorandum has since been rescinded by executive order one, three, five, five, six past on November 4, 2010, the guidelines were expanded upon in a further attempt to improve the management of information across all federal agencies as well as establish a more standard government wide program regarding the controlled unclassification designation process itself. YEEEISH!

You know this all sounds like to me on a fucking boring paperwork. This picture a lot of administrative assistance and secretaries with top secret clearance, you know, and just the fucking most boring shit ever. Just, you know, printing and shredding and filing and worrying about dying from boredom more than they are about spilling national secrets. So many files, so many emails. Oh, man, beyond the top secret, secret and confidential designations, President Obama's executive order 13526 issued on December 29, 2009, which forms the legal basis for the U.S. classification system, also provides for special access programs that further restricted access to a small number of individuals and permit additional security measures. There could be other little classification systems inside of that that we don't even fucking

know about. Who knows what kind of shady shit might be going on in the deepest depth of the so-called deep state Probably only like two people who know exactly which kind of aliens are hidden underneath the Denver airport all roads lead to the Denver airport What system determines what level of classification a piece of info receives? Well executive order 1 2 9 5 eight that one passed the 95 by president Clinton subsequent executive orders provided instruction for appointment of trained government original classification authorities OCA's these OCA's evaluate programs and associated info equipment services etc to determine whether or not they should be classified and if so to what

level and being an OCA sounds like a high-stress job. Not a good one to come into work, hung over and actually put some top secret shit and they don't even worry about a pile. Not a good job for someone prone to commit a lot of whoopsies and cash things. Oh heck, lost that one again. All right, keep losing all my papers.

The OCA uses a six step process to determine whether or not info is to be classified. Step one, determining that the info is official government information. The US government must own, have an interest or control the info. Gotta make sure you don't mix up a Starbucks, Frappuccino memo with a new secret memo. Step two, determine if the info is eligible to be classified, OCA's, based this guidance, provided an executive order, one, two, nine, five, eight. Three, determine if there is a potential for damage to national security,

if unauthorized release occurs. Four, determine classification level, right? Confidential secret or top secret. Five, make a decision about the duration. How long is it going to be top secret? How long is it going to be secret? A lot of boxes to check. Then six, communicate the decision. The OCA notifies the users of the classification levels and duration through the security classification guide. A lot of rules to follow. I'd be fired so fast. Part of the classification process determined in a reason for the classification.

Classification categories are marked by the number 1.4 followed by one or more letters, 8 to H, like 1.4A, military plans, weapon systems or operations, or 1.4C, intelligence activities, sources or methods or cryptology, or 1.4F, US government programs for safeguarding nuclear materials or facilities, 1.48 is the development, production or use of weapons of mass destruction. How does someone even get a job like this? I googled original classification authorities, OCA job interviews, and actually found a posting for some OCA jobs.

If you're looking for one, if you want to be an OCA and you want to move to Arlington or already live there in Virginia, by DC, I don't come close to qualifying. You have to have five plus years of experience in the declassification or records management area. I have zero years. You have to have no criminal record. EEP! You have to pass an intense background check.

AAH! And I bet you have to, you know, do some other stuff. So, on the understand that if you leak anything, you're not just gonna, you know, be brought into your boss's office for an ass chewing, you're gonna go to prison. My former manager's brother has one of these type of secret government jobs.

I don't know, she doesn't know. It's so weird. He's about 45 years old and Maggie and him are super close. For the past 20 years, Maggie's had no idea what he does. Isn't that weird? Maybe it's so weird if you're sibling, you have no idea what they do. Other than they work for the government in some capacity,

that's as specific as it gets. He's been single this whole time like his entire adult life at least to her knowledge. She's always wondering about what he does, but he doesn't even ask anymore because he can't tell her shit. I used to ask you about him all the time, like he'll be in like Japan for a few months,

then he'll come swing through California, a visa, then he'll be in Germany for like six months. Yeah, forever I would ask him, like what's he doing in Germany? He's like, I can't tell you. He doesn't tell me. I don't know. They know he can go to the Middle East, be there for a few weeks, a few months, so crazy. What a pain in, what a fucking pain in the ass that would be?

To not be able to talk really at all about what you actually do and for like, for your whole career. I feel like that is what most people who work full-time talk the most about, you know, which makes sense. That's the majority of their life. It's like what many of us spend the majority of our waking hours doing is working And then you can't talk about it unless it's to co-workers and then even then it depends on their level of classification For each particular kind of operation Even when you quit or retire you still can't talk about it. I couldn't do it I could hang I could hang for treason not because I'm trying to be a traitor

But just because I couldn't shut the fuck up, right? I have too many drinks, a little Lucy Goosey, a little Whispery, and then I'm in jail or worse. Let's talk a bit about the steps the government takes to make sure people don't leak sensitive info intentionally or accidentally, and then we'll get into the meat of this suck actual declassified and or leak documents and this fascinating stuff. The government takes a lot of steps to keep sensitive documents secure from special shipping and transport to highly secured systems and buildings. There is this notion of a lifetime commitment to secrecy. If you take one of these jobs, when a cleared individual leaves a job or employer for which

they were granted access to classified information, they have to be officially debriefed. Debriefing is an administrative process that accomplishes two man goals. It creates a formal record that the individual no longer has access to classified information for that program, and it reminds the individual of their lifetime commitment to protect the info. I bet that reminder, if you read the fine print, is pretty hardcore. Life and prison are execution for letting one secret slip. Even if I'm drunk and kind of just talking about it for funsies,

gosh dang. Typically the individual being debrief is asked to staple their p-hole closed as a display of loyalty and resistance to torturous interrogation, man or woman, close it up. You knew it would come to this. Not it's fucking not it's crazy. Typically the individual being debriefed

is asked to sign another NDA, non-disclosure agreement, similar to the one they signed when they got the job. The debriefed individual does not necessarily lose their security clearance. They have only surrendered the need to know info related to that particular job. What about freedom of information? I want to hear people talking about the freedom of information act all the time. How it allows US citizens to access all this hidden info. Talked away in government hard drives and file cabinets. Does this act allow regular folks like of information act all the time. How it allows US citizens to access all this hidden info, tucked away in government hard drives and file cabinets. Does this act allow regular folks like myself access

to classified secrets? Fuck no. Since 1967, the Freedom of Information Act, F-O-I-A, has provided the public the right to request access to records from any federal agency. And then federal agencies are required to disclose any information requested under the FOIA unless it falls under one of nine different exemptions, which protect interests such as personal privacy, national security, and law enforcement.

And when they won't give you, you know, the info you want, you have to wait until it is eventually declassified or hope that it gets leaked. And then sometimes it's just, it never gets declassified. According to many in the government, there has been a stunning amount of classified documents being leaked though in recent years. The internet has made keeping a lot of the shit secret way harder than it used to be. Someone told me that a lot of highly classified, very sensitive info ends up getting leaked to pornhub.com. I don't know if you knew that.

I don't know if it's true. I spent a lot of time this past week looking around pornhub.com for your classified info. And I couldn't know if you knew that. I don't know if it's true. I spent a lot of time this past week looking around pornhub.com for your classified info. And I couldn't find anything. I mean, I spent hours just fucking everywhere. I looked at the amateur section and the mature section. I looked at the Asian section. I looked at the big ass, Brazilian, DP, Ebony,

Italian, Milfe, Redhead and Russian sections. I looked at the squirt, tattooed women, pissing party, bondage, trampoline, above ground pool, typhoon delivery drivers, even the Japanese milk typhoon delivery drivers wearing rip pantyhose, you like to squirt, we're not squirt too much sections. Nothing! What the shit?

So that might not be true. That might be something I just made up. I had to do a little race search, you know, find this categorisy. Helios-fina. Okay, let's move on. But seriously, in the information age, it is increasingly difficult to keep sensitive information from the public, from hackers to whistleblowers.

We have learned more about what the government does behind closed doors in the last 20 years than in the cumulative total of all of the years of our nation's history prior to the internet. Between WikiLeaks and whistleblowers, you know, or traders, depending on how you choose to look at them, like Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning, it feels like classified information is now leaked all the time. We'll look at the history of leaking at some high profile leakers in a few minutes

during the time stock timeline, leakers different in squatters, just to be clear. But first, now that we have an idea of how the classified system works, let's look at our first batch of declassified military documents, okay, here we go. Here we go. As excited to get to the meat test, trying not to rush.

I wanted to get to this stuff. Gonna start with Operation Paperclip. Aspects of Operation Paperclip remain classified. Information has been classified here and there about this, you know, for many years now, or has been declassified here and there, you know. We mentioned this way back in the unit 731 suck, bonus 13. Surprise I didn't talk about it

and the man had in project suck. I know I thought about doing so. I've referenced it in the secret suck. Let's dig into it a bit now. As World War II was entering his final stages, American and British organizations teamed up to scour occupied Germany for as much military, scientific and technological development research

as they could uncover. Gotta get those big brains before Stalin snatched them up from Mother Russia. Gotta track down Heinrich Himmler's powerful personal psychic, Carl Villegut. Oh, you guys should totally work with Carl. That's such a wonderful mind. Have a toddler visit ice science, huh? Have him show you the through tunnels? Maybe he can use his own visit powers to find the holy girl and that's like this.

I'm about best of luck. Yeah. I'm still using myself if I find totally dead. It's like a bummer. If you're totally confused now, I'm guessing you skip the Nazi search for the holy girl suck a few weeks ago. American Britain. Looking to scoop up top German minds, not to your not.

Trailing behind allied combat troops, groups such as the combined intelligence objectives, subcommittee, the CIS, began confiscating war-related documents and materials and interrogating scientists as German research facilities were seized by allied forces. One enlightening discovery recovered from a toilet at Bonn University was the Ozenberg List, a catalog of scientists and engineers that have been put to work for the Third Reich. In a covert affair, originally dubbed Operation Overcast, but later renamed Operation Paperclip, roughly 1600 of these German scientists, along with their families, were brought to United States to work on America's behalf during the Cold War.

It's crazy, 1600. The program was run by the newly formed Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency, J.I.O.A., whose goal was to harness German intellectual resources to help develop America's arsenal of rockets and other biological and chemical weapons and to ensure such coveted information did not fall into the hands of the Soviet Union, right? The big red scare.

Although he officially sank to the operation, President Harry Truman forbade the agency from recruiting any Nazi members or active Nazi supporters. Nevertheless, officials with the JIOA and Office of Strategic Services, OSS, the four runner to the CIA were like, nah, and they just bypassed this directive by eliminating or white washing and criminating evidence of possible war crimes from the scientists records, believing their intelligence to be crucial to the country's post-war efforts. One of the most well-known Nazi recruits was Werner von Braun, the technical director at

the Pina Munde Army Research Center in Germany, who was instrumental in developing the lethal V2 rocket, the devastated England during the war. Von Braun, other scientists, other rocket scientists, specifically, were brought to Fort Bliss, Texas, and White stands, and the White stands proving grounds in New Mexico as war department special employees to assist the US Army with rocket experimentation. Von Braun later became director of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center and the chief architect of the Saturn V launch vehicle, which eventually propelled two dozen American astronauts to the moon.

What did happen? So how involved was Von Braun with Nazi Party? Well, he seemed pretty involved actually. He did not appear to be enthusiastically, politically involved, but he also made no efforts to leave Germany as a Nazi party rose to power. Born in 1912, Von Braun was working on his doctorate when the Nazis first came to power in 1933,

then he joined the Nazi party four years later in 1937. In 1940, he joined the SS, there's a picture of him, wearing his SS uniform, standing next to that terrible Nazi we learned about back in December, Mike Heinrich Himmler. We also know that Von Braun visited a middle-virk, at least once he was given a tour of the facility by SS guards in late 1943 when prisoners were still excavating tunnels there. Middle-Verk was an underground factory near the central German town of Nordhausen, where V2 rockets were being built by von Braun and other engineers. V2 rockets were being used against the Allies, and we know that over 60,000 prisoners lived worked and over 20,000 died in the damp underground tunnels at Middle-Verk.

Some succumbed to disease and malnutrition. Some were quite literally worked to death. Others were hanged publicly in group executions, almost all were tortured and beaten. The death rate rose so high that crematoriums became a necessity. These prisoners were largely Jewish and they came from the Dorah concentration camp.

So how much did Von Braun know about these prisoners in the camp? Probably quite a bit. I mean, he had to have known something. How much did he care know about these prisoners in the camp? Probably quite a bit. I mean, he had to have known something. How much did he care? Well, never know. Why didn't he leave Germany in the 30s when Hitler rose to power? Was he anti-Semitic?

Did he hate Hitler? Did he like him? Did he not care about him? Why did Von Braun get a pass? I mean, he developed weapons for the Nazis to use to help the win-world war two. That's a pretty deep level of involvement. He wasn't a prisoner of war. He was a willing participant.

What do you've died? If he said no one refused to help him. I mean, maybe, maybe even probably, are there records of him being overly supportive of the Nazis? No, he didn't seem to be enthusiastic. Nazi member, but should that matter? Recruiting Von Braun and other Nazis was obviously a very sensitive and morally questionable,

which is one of the reasons the Operation Paperclip was classified. Von Braun greatly aided in helping America win the space race against the Soviet Union later. Does that justify his Nazi involvement? Many would say no. I mean, what if we did something like that today? What if, you know, to do a kind of a fair comparison, what if we recruited some scientists who had worked on weapons for ISIS, to use on American targets, which, you know,

weapons that were used successfully on American targets, somebody who is really good at, say, biological warfare, and then we bring him over here to the States and he ends up curing dementia. Does that make what he did earlier okay? Can the end justify the means in a situation like that? I don't know, I guess it's kind of case by case. Another Operation Papercloth Scientist who contributed directly to the U.S. Apollo astronauts landing on the moon was Arthur Rudolph, another V2 rocket scientist who worked with Von Braun.

An early Operation Papercloth Report identified him, this other guy got an Arthur Rudolph as 100% Nazi. But that initial report was then hushed up and hidden because of how good he was at building rockets and he was hired by the US government, 100% Nazi or not. The army brought him to America, cleared him for secret research and development work on the Pershing Missile, and later after the establishment of NASA moved him into the space program. When Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin Jr. landed on the moon in 1969, their ascent through space was powered by a rocket that Rudolph had built to Saturn V. Three American presidents

shook Rudolph's hand over the course of his career. They shook the hand of a man who evidence has linked with thousands of deaths in wartime Germany. Evidence that was not brought to light until after he retired until after he'd already made all these contributions to the US military in NASA. Very convenient. Rudolph had overseen the production line at a rocket factory in Nazi Germany that relied on concentration camp inmates for inmates for labor. Thousands of workers had died of hunger and exhaustion. Office of special investigations meant the OSI, which was a special Nazi hunting justice unit formed in 1979. They said in 1982 that it was naive to think that Rudolph hadn't known about the deaths,

and that he hadn't been able to do something to stop them. They think he was able to stop them, but didn't, because he didn't care. Essentially, so, heep. Now let's move on to a completely different operation. Operation Gladio had the spaces that are not voted in this topic. I might have never known about it. I definitely never heard about this one before this research. Gladio is the Italian form of Gladius, a type of Roman short sword, Operation Gladio.

It's Mario. He's a better scared of what this operation is going to be. A cool name, way cooler than paperclip. Paperclip is about as nerdy as it gets, which made sense, I guess, for that type of operation. Operation Gladio is a part of a post World War II program set up by the CIA and NATO, supposedly to thwart future Soviet communist invasions or influence Italy and Western Europe. In reality, it became a state-sponsored right-wing terrorist group involved in false flag operations and the subversion of democracy. And it was kept secret for 45 years.

And what kind of shit went on with Operation Gladio? Well, here's a judge, Felix Casson, who discovered the network and the course of his investigations into right-wing terrorism, points to a 1972 car bombing in Pettno that killed three paramilitary police and was blamed on leftists after which 200 communists were immediately arrested He found that there was no police investigation of the scene the original report was a forgery the 200 communists were Completely framed and the CIA was behind it. I mean, I'm not a fan of communism. That's pretty fucked up To frame some dudes because they believed in a different kind of government But if that's what you, you know, has to happen

to keep my country from being in communist state. Oh, sorry, commies. I kind of hope you get framed for the greater good. I mean, real, I mean, morality is so complicated in these situations, like true morality. If framing 200 innocent dudes keeps a couple million from living under the thumb of a totalitarian regime where thousands will die, isn't framing them

the best moral decision you can make. I mean, maybe, I don't know. Sometimes I feel like I would fit in all too well to see I, I don't know if that's good or bad. The bombing was actually perpetrated by a right wing terrorist named Vincenzo, of Insegueda, operating under Operation Gladio orders who later confessed to the crime. After Casson brought this and other examples to light, an ex-Italian, or ex-Italian Prime Minister, Julio and Duryade, admitted he knew of Gladio's existence.

The main function of Operation Gladio seemed to have been to discredit left wing groups and politicians through the use of the strategy of tension, including false flag terrorism. The strategy of tension is a concept for control and manipulation of public opinion through the use of fear propaganda agent provocateurs terrorism etc The aim was to instill fear into the populace while framing communist and left-wing political opponents for terrorist atrocities The existence of this kind of a stay behind network and others were one of Europe's best-case kept secrets until 1990 year of best-case kept secrets until 1990. That's when ex-prime minister and reality finally testified about the operation.

He revealed that arms and equipment were provided by the CIA placed in 139 underground caches around the country. General Gendelio Maletti, a former head of the Italian counterintelligence, also confirmed the CIA's involvement in March of 2001. He stated that after the Piazza fontana bombing in 1969, pieces of a bomb were planted in a leftist editor's villa in order to blame the communist.

So another person's framed. 17 innocent Italian citizens died in that bombing in Milan. Another 88 were wounded and why were they killed to make sure Italy didn't tilt over into communism, to make sure the Soviets couldn't gain a stronghold that far west in Europe. More casualties of the Cold War, where those deaths justified in the interest of the greater. Good. I don't know. I'm not sure where the line is in situations like that. There's a lot of great stuff here today. Next up, Operation Wash Tub.

This one is not controversial, just interesting. Operation Wash Tub was a secret mission, which America's stinkiest citizen were kidnapped, vigorously scrubbed, and shampooed, toss back into society, little cleaner than they were when they disappeared. It was also called Operation Blast, some of that swamp ass and Operation Skunk Junk for a while. And what am I even, or am I even fucking talking about right now? Operation Washtub was a secret United States Air Force and federal Bureau of Investigation

Operation during the Cold War to ensure that there would be spies in the then territory of Alaska, should the Soviet Union invade the territory. The plans were drafted in 1950, were put into place in the early 50s. Agents were recruited and paid a stipend of $3,000 for training and to be available for covert service after an invasion of Alaska by the Soviets. Total of 89 agents were trained in pay. In addition, cash is a food, winter weather equipment, and radios were placed for use by the agents after an invasion. The agents would have been used to gather intelligence and report the activities of the invaded army. In addition, some agents could have been tasked with the evacuation of U.S.

military crews, stranded in Soviet held territory. And that plan remained in place until 1959. Details of that plan became public in 2014 as a result of a Freedom of Information Act request by government attic, a website specializing in publishing documents. Crazy to think about how A, Alaska wasn't even a state until 1959. And B, the US was obviously at least a little bit worried

about losing the Alaska territory to the Soviet Union. How fucking weird would that be if Alaska had ended up being part of the Soviet Union? Like, if after the fall of the Soviet Union at the end of 1991, it would have become some kind of independent Russian speaking, you know, in state or nation in North America. If Alaska would have been taken over by the Soviets, if that takeover didn't immediately lead to World War III, I feel like World War III would have happened between the takeover 91, right? Because the Soviets would have had a bunch of bases in Alaska with a lot of very big missiles

pointed at the American West Coast, pointed at the Northwest, attention during the cold war would have led to something pushing the wrong button. Canada would have been stuck in the middle, it was sucked for them. Just come on guys, just be cool, hey, no reason to start bushings now. No, don stuck in the middle. It was sucked for them. Just come on guys, this'd be cool, eh? No reason to start bushings now. No, don't push the buttons. You know, we can all get along. Hey, you guys both like hockey and basketball. And you fellas like a little beef hot dogs.

And you fellas like strogan off. And you know, that's a different A. So let's sit down out some Poutine and talk it all out. This next one's a super weird one. Super weird. I had to look at a few stories. I'm like, are you fucking serious? Operation Acoustic Kitty was a secret plan

to turn cats into portable spying devices. Agent, double-o-sour push, the Simey spy kitty. The name is Bond, Garfield Bond, you get it. The CIA only ever produced one acoustic kitty, because it abandoned the project after a test with a prototype, I went horribly wrong. The acoustic kitty was a kind of like a feline Android thing, a little cyborg of a sort.

A surgeon implanted a microphone in this poor cat's ear, a radio transmitter at the base of its skull. The surgeon also woven antenna into the cat's fur. CIA operatives had hoped that they could train the cat to sit near foreign officials. That way the cat could secretly transmit these private conversations to CIA operatives. Who's, who's stupid idea was this? Like this idea should have been shot down immediately after someone suggested training a cat. Hey, hey, guys, I was thinking that we

could train a cat to nope. No, hey, hold on. There's more to my plan. First, we trained this cat to nope, start over, replace cat with Dog, maybe I'll keep listening. You can maybe train a dog to do that. I don't know. Maybe some type of like pet wizard Cat whisper maybe you could train like one special cat to do that for like a little tiny while. But then that cat would head over to Russia

and just, I don't know, somewhere and just do whatever the fuck it wanted like cats or want to do. It's crazy that they actually tried this. For its official test, C.A. staffers drove acoustic kitty to the park. They tasked it with capturing the conversation of two men sit on a bench and it didn't do that because it's fucking it's capped. Instead, I just wandered out into the street and it was immediately squashed by a taxi. I know that's not it should be funny. I know it's sad,

but it is also funny to me. It's because you know that they were so pissed when that cat got ran over like after all that work I bet that there were more angry initially than said fucking Molly God damn it. I knew she'd do something stupid like that. I never liked her Never could get her stop pissed under the coffee table stop clawing the back of the couch Why do we ever think we could train her to spy on the Russians? And I bet they've been training that cat for months All the special equipment created had to wait for the cat to heal after it's surgery

to attach all the equipment. You know, they got over this scenario over and over again in the lab, and they finally go to a park to let go of the cat, then it just sees a bird or some shit and this fuck takes off. One random bird, you know, dog, laser pointer, and then whole project's out the window. Well, Jangles is laughing his pit bull ass off right now.

And a heavily redacted memo to CIA concluded our final examination of train cats convinced us that the program would not lend itself in a practical sense to our highly specialized needs. Yeah, you think the cats, dummy. Still, this does not mean that the US government's days of animal engineering were over. In 2006, the Pentagon's defense advanced research

projects agency DARPA, assigned to create cyborg insects. And apparently with DARPA's support, researchers at the University of California, Berkeley successfully created a cyborg beetle, whose movements they could remotely control. God, that's awesome. Wonder where that beetle's doing right now, whatever it's spied on. Man, if I had a remote control bug, I could entertain myself for days. So harassing my dogs, Penny and Jinger, can you imagine? Having a remote controlled bug to fuck with your dogs? And with my family?

Oh my God, I kids are my wife. I would have that thing land on their face, you know? And then just take off and hide. And then land on their faces again, just over and over. So fun to think about. Also, the CIA almost tried using cats again, and an even more fucked up plan. They thought about making cat bombs.

The idea was that soldiers could strap actual bombs to the back of cats. And then drop them out of an airplane towards the enemy ship. Just cat bombs, just kitty kabooms, kitty, kitty kamikazees, feline and firecrackers, pussy projectiles, you get it. The plan was for the cats to swim towards the ships if they landed near them.

And then the bombs go off once they got on the ship, I guess. The detonation method is never fully explained. It's a dumb idea, never implemented. The Cold War was a time for some crazy weapons. We touched on a number of them during our KGB suck, sup 138. But none of them were quite as crazy as the cat bomb. A lot of weird secret shit went on during World War II and after World War II during the Cold War. Strange stuff did happen long before World War II as well. Six of the oldest files held by the CIA predated in the birth of

the American spy agency by several decades were declassified and made public in 2011. One paper from 1918, Listy chemicals and techniques used to create secret writing. Another from 1914, written in French gives the formula the Germans were believed to have used for invisible ink. They reveal chemical methods used by intelligence agents to open sealed envelopes without being detected and carry warnings such as do not inhale fumes.

One suggests that secret messages should be passed by soaking a hankerchief or collar in a mixture of nitrate, soda soda and starch and then drying the fabric. The chemicals would come out when the cloth was put in water and that liquid would become invisible ink for messages for message writing. The person receiving the message could then read the words by applying iodate of potassium, some 50 different scenarios for using invisible ink or outline including placing writings under postage stamps, wrapping messages and medicine capsules, and engraving messages on toenails. Old school spy shit.

Weird secret messages written on toenails. That's a weird one. Smart though. Some secret formula written out across several toes and invisible ink, I mean, what enemy is gonna find that? Awkward to have to decode that message though, right? You gotta hold somebody's foot, get examined their toes. You know, they probably couldn't wash their feet

until you got the message, so you gotta hold someone's stinky feet, and then you gotta, you know, smell like hot garbage. You gotta get the message that way. It's probably better than having the message written inside of their butt though, and if they try that, that would be worse than stinky toes.

To have, have to have somebody bend over in front of you and you gotta spread their cheeks, you gotta, well, that way you over in front of you. You got a spread of cheeks. You got what? Why you read the messages inside their dirty butt with a magnifying glass. Somebody else has to write it down. You know, who wants to decode a dirty butt message? No one. So that may be Albert Fish.

Peanut by pot of showbies. Let's get to decode and bimbo some bear cats. Let's move on to our next bit of secrecy. This next declassified tidbit involves a massive secret tunnel. During the Cold War, monitoring and thwarting the Soviet Union's influence worldwide was a top priority of the CIA by the early 50s. The Soviets had shifted from radio to landline telephones for most military traffic, transmitting both encrypted messages, and non-secure voice communications.

The CIA assessed that tapping the underground cables could be done securely and with little notice. So the CIA and the British Secret Intelligence Service developed a tunneling and tapping plan, the director of Central Intelligence, Alan Dulles approved in January 1954, work began the following month in Berlin. The construction used an Air Force radar site

in warehouse as a cover and proceeded undetected, building the tunnel was an undertaking of extreme proportions. During construction, 3,100 tons of soil were removed, which would fill more than 20 living rooms in an average American home. 125 tons of steel, liner plate were used to line the tunnel, and 1,000 cubic yards of grout were consumed. The finished tunnel was 1,476 feet long. British technicians installed the taps

and intelligence collection began in May of 1955. Unfortunately, the KGB, the Soviet Union's premier intelligent agency had been aware of the CIA project the entire time. Damn it. Spy versus spy shit and the Russians won that round. God, they must have loved watching that. If they're watching that from the very beginning. Dig American pigs. Dig a little tunnel. Spend the capitalist won that round. God, they must have loved watching that. If they were watching that from the very beginning,

dig American pigs, dig a little tunnel, spend the capitalist's come money, mother Russia's laughing in your face. I wonder if they fucked with them by leaking bullshit into the tap lines from time to time. Igor, are you ready to blow Berlin to moon this morning? Can you believe it?

In just 30 minutes, we dropped 15 nuke bombs on West Berlin. Kushev has giant stone balls. Does he not? Are this next bit of declassified information? Just watch all the guys fucking scramble. Oh my God, they're gonna bomb us in 30 minutes. Are this next bit of declassified info? Is it about a spy who almost kicked off World War Three or helped kick it off? Oleg Pankowski was a high ranking Soviet military intelligence officer who worked as a spy for

the US and Great Britain during the Cold War, at least that's what the Allies thought. Best known for his role in the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962, Pankowski supplied the U.S. government with valuable details about the capabilities of Soviet missiles that have been installed in Cuba. The spy was eventually sniffed out by his fellow Soviet intelligence officers charged with treason and executed in 1963 or was he? Lot of people believed that Pankovsky was a decoy. We may have just relayed false information about Soviet arms capabilities to the US intelligence

agents to help push the US into war with Russia. Basically thanks to some declassified documents after really looking at the intelligence provided to the Allies, it seems there is ample proof that his loyalty was always to the Soviet Union. The Russian Illuminati probably faked his death, now he's living on his life on some sweet beach in sunny Siberia. I've mentioned World War III a few times now let's talk about a secret plan, American politicians had hatched to survive it. During the Cold War the worst fear for everyone was a-on nuclear war. Would it blow up everything?

Would it render the earth completely uninhabitable? What would happen? How would humanity survive in nuclear apocalypse? Well, thanks to Documents Declassified in early 2017, Documents revealing presidential directive 58, we now know that President Jimmy Pinnett Farmer Carter and his top advisors had an interesting plan to survive the end of days Form when he first took office in 1977 The plan starts off on a very dark and unconstitutional note based around the military having to cross one of their most important lines

Get it involved in domestic security Basically the start of the plan calls for kicking off perpetual martial law Marshal law is terrifying Marshal law is when a state is put under control of the military, usually temporarily, which is how things got started in the handmaid's tail under his eye, due to an emergency or crisis that is broken down the usual civil authority in order, also known as everyday life in North Korea. And Carter's plan after the nuclear war, martial law will almost exclusively, or certainly have to be declared.

And then the military is given extraordinary powers to manage a resource distribution, scary, but maybe necessary to survive. In addition to martial law, the plan called for the government planned, excuse me, the plan called for the government to move significant parts of the population away, specifically those folks who live near strategic military targets. And what about the members of the government themselves? Well, in an emergency, the joint chiefs of staff would order 60 officials to be taken to primary relocation sites. The main one at that time was not too far from DC. The US government operated a special facility, a top mount weather in Berryville, Virginia, where a nest of top executive branch officials would ride out World War Three.

From this bunker, these officials could carry out the functions of the US government and probably also eat so much dehydrated and rehydrated rations. You ever eaten that stuff? I bought some of that stuff for camping and had them somewhere before last. And I got to say, the stuff I had not bad. I didn't mind me some rehydrated spaghetti and rehydrated mashed potatoes. I think I could hang in a bunker for quite a while. If I had a lot of mashed potatoes, books, hopefully a bunch of graphic novels and a PS4, sounds kind of fun in a strange way, exciting, but only to think about, probably with suck in real life, especially if I didn't have any music and I got locked in a bunker with some heavy breathing lips, smackers and open mouth potatoes, you peeders.

You with your fucking mouth closed. Iers and open mouth potato chip eaters. Do you fucking mouth closed? I'm trying to enjoy my bunker taters. I can imagine the elements of Carter's where will we go into hiding plan have been declassified only now because we probably have some new classified plan, right, for surviving being new. I mean, there has to be some new massive bunker that we don't know about, right? Supposedly the government would now head to the North American aerospace defense command in Colorado, Norell.

But why would that information be made public knowledge? Norell is pretty sweet. It's a badass inter-mountain, modern fortress. Five chambers inside Cheyenne Mountain hold reservoirs for water and fuel. There was even an underground lake, which requires robots to patrol. So cool. Maybe do some underground fishing, maybe catch some bat trout or something.

In the beginning, nearly 40 million went into equipping this place with the best computers and electronics that were around in 1957. During an emergency, no-rad could house 1,000 people for a month. The Pentagon nearly closed the book on this facility,

which cost about $250 million a year to operate. Jesus. But then reverse course after 9.11, installing about 700 million in communications and computer upgrades, five years after the attacks, $115 million project in 2004, nearly double domain command centers, 540 square foot room to accommodate more staff. After a brief return to standby mode in 2006, the Obama administration brought Noorad back to life again. It began running full-scale continuity drills,

even sealed the blast door entrance for 24 hours. The first time it tested that magnitude had happened there. Then in 2015, the Pentagon announced that it was re-staffing the bunker as the rising threat of electromagnetic pulse attacks against US. Perhaps even by a new nuclear arm nation like Iran meant that the Norad bunker was a perfect bastion from which to defend the nation. Okay, so maybe they're going to go there if, you know, shake it's crazy. Or will the government operate out of a place called Ravenrock somewhere in North

Carolina? That place opened 1953 designed to be the centerpiece of a large military emergency hub. I provided a hundred thousand feet of office space. I could hold 1400 people comfortably. Two sets of 34 ton blast doors curved a thousand foot long tunnel or tunnels reduced the impact of a bomb blast. This compound has undergone several rounds of upgrades. New buildings were added as well as updated technology and air filtration systems. A few years after 9.11, the government injected $652 million with the upgrades. New buildings were added as well as updated technology and air filtration systems. A few years after 9-11, the government injected $652 million with the upgrades.

The underground city added 27 new fuel tanks in 2012. Each could hold 20,000 gallons. Raven Rock believed now to have 900,000 square feet of office. Today, it could theoretically hold between 3,000 and thousand five thousand government employees uh... doesn't say how long that i can find uh... those people would be able to survive uh... you know in in this big bunker nine hundred thousand square feet i have a bar in there don't they anyone to do box pool tables you know bar in big bunker somewhere to knock a few back take the edge off after

a long day of no sunlight wondering how many packets of bunkerertators you have left. Maybe the government would write out, you know, the apocalypse in the Appalachian, Virginia. Maybe, yeah, Hawkfolk dogfolk style. Peter's mountain in Monroe County, Virginia is a long standing facility that some think is run undercover as an AT&T communication station. There's even an AT&T logo painted on his hella pad. But his real purpose might be one, you know, might be one of these half dozen secret facilities known as AT&T

project offices that are actually key hubs for government continuity planning. Actually, just hidden bunkers theoretically. This is a department store size bunker, capable of housing several hundred people. It's undergone 67 million dollars of renovations in recent years. So it could be another possible place people could hide out. Maybe the US government in the event of nuclear apocalypse will operate out of the international order of odd fellows hall in my hometown of Riggins, Idaho. Right? That's a possible site.

This dilapidated site has doors that do lock. Some have dead bolts. The windows are single pane, but most are not broken. The walls are made out of almost enough two by fours to meet most modern building codes. The basement does have concrete floors and concrete walls. So in the event of a nuclear blast, while the roof would be obliterated and the walls would definitely collapse in a blast wave, you still would have most of the floor intact. And it's got to be at least 3,000 square feet.

It might even have two bathrooms. I've used at least one, right? I think it has a drinking fountain. Okay, probably not going to hear about any declassified documents revealing that Rick and I've used at least one, right? I think it has a drinking fountain. Okay, probably not gonna hear about any declassified documents revealing that Rick and Zydeho is an important part of a World War Three hideout plan or of any other plan. Now before we move on to our next secret project,

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and obviously here the whole time. And now let's talk about Project Iceworm. Another cool name, Iceworm sounds like a Stanley Marvel Super villain. Some dude who can harness the, maybe the moisture on the atmosphere, turning into ice, it either blasts you with some icy projectiles or frees you or maybe, maybe warm his way into the earth. I don't know. It is I, I swam. Your webs have no power over

me, Spider-Man, so I can be quite melty and stuff, or, and also slippery. Oh, both. I can be melty and slippery, and I can shoot you with my ice worms, which are really kind of a ice projectile sounds cooler than column worms. You get high. What's out? Why is Marvel never hired me to write comic book dialogue? Come on, I'm natural. Um, project ice one was the top secret United States Army program, which aimed to build a network of mobile nuclear missile launch sites under the Greenland ice sheet. Launched in 1960 under the cover of a research facility with a scientific focus of studying the feasibility of working underneath the ice. It was called camp century and was meant to be a step towards space colonies.

Army researchers did perform some actual science there, including drilling the first ice core to the base of the Greenland ice sheet, a core that provided information to scientists about the past climate, but the site wasn't really created for that. It was created to build and maintain a secret network of tunnels and missile silos connected by rail cars. Once the location was settled on, hundreds of military engineers and technicians tracked 150 miles from the existing Thule airbase, Thule. Why is that coming up again after all the Himalor Thule nonsense last month?

But really, they'd trek 150 miles from the Thule Airbase and along Greenland's northwest coast to the camp-century site. From 1959 to 1961, they dug hundreds of feet into the compacted snow, fashion and underground city with sleeping quarters, laboratories, offices of barbershop, laundry, library, and warm showers for 200 soldiers. Which is pretty amazing.

What a strange place to be based. Underneath the ice in Greenland. Why does it... Why does it... Why does it... Why does it... Why does it... Why does it...

Why does it... Why does it... Why does it... Why does it... Why does it... Why does it... Why does it... Why does it... Why does it... drinks though. Ain't something to relax when you're hanging out below the ice in Greenland. The American public didn't know about project iceworm until a Danish parliament investigation published documents about the secret project in 1997. They did know about camp's entry. Documents show that many of the servicemen were concerned about exposure and radiation

from the nuclear reactor that powered the station. Operation iceworm shut down long before 1997 because the walls of snow and ice kept moving, squeezing the tracks that carried the missile train, problems with the nuclear reactor forced its removal in 1964 and by 1966 the army had abandoned camp century altogether. Engineers figured that ice would eventually entomb the abandoned station, but decades later, warming temperatures have presented a problem. In 2016, a team of scientists reported that the rapid warming of Greenland's ice sheet could lead to the exposure of radioactive toxic and human waste that remains at camp century, possibly leaking into streams that would lead to the ocean.

It's just a matter of times, as Mike McFarron, an author on a 2016 study that exposed this problem. When the water reaches these waste and gets to the coast on a 2016 study that exposed this problem. When the water reaches these waste and gets to the coast, then we've got a big problem. No word from the US government currently about its plans. If it has the need to head over to Greenland to clean up this mess, pretty fucked up if we just got left it there. Now let's talk about another US nuke situation that was long kept secret. This time one will be almost bombed North Carolina.

Yep, North Carolina was almost nuked on accident. If one tiny switch had just worked properly, there would now be a massive crater in the center of the Tar Heel State. Documents declassified under the Freedom of Information Act showed the first definitive proof that the U.S. government almost detonated two hydrogen bombs over Golds Burrow North Carolina on January 23rd 1961. The bombs fell out of the government's B-52 after it fell apart in mid-air. One of the bombs began as detonation sequence as it was following, but due to a tiny switch not working properly, the largest nuclear disaster in US history was narrowly avoided.

Each bomb had a total payload of four megatons. That's equivalent to about four million tons of TNT, Jesus Christ, four million tons, much larger than the bombs dropped on Japan during World War II, which is saying a lot, because those were huge. The area is not densely populated, based on 1961 population statistics and what the blast radius would have been 28,000 North Carolinans would have died. Another 26,000 people would have been injured, had that switch worked and the bomb detonated. The state of North Carolina erected a historical road marker in the town of Eureka, three miles

north of the crash site commemorating the crash with a sign that read or the reads, nuclear mishap. Can you imagine if the US would have accidentally nuked almost 30,000 citizens to death 10 times the death toll of 9-11? I wonder if the government would have blamed Cuba or Russia or both. Maybe that one switch not working kept us out of World War Three. Some of the shit is terrifying, these close calls. Back in the 1960s, the US also lost a nuke on Greenland. Man, poor Greenland, apparently just fucking up their whole situation over there,

just leaving stuff all over the place. About all 15 of them are super pissed. There really isn't that many people in Greenland less than 60,000 on the entire island. I am fascinated by Greenland. The biggest city, Nuke, I think it's NUUK, 17,000 people in it. That's the biggest city. That's the capital. They got their first mall in Greenland in 2012. It has roughly 20 stores and no food court has two cafes.

So if modern amenities are your thing, maybe don't take a trip to Greenland. Greenland assisted the allies in the Second World War by allowing US military bases to be built there, as you mentioned earlier, but they didn't want nukes on their Danish controlled land. And the US military was like, yeah, we totally get that. No nukes. I proceed with the nukes. I dare them to say shit. It's fucking Greenland. The US just flat out ignored that request. Then after a B 52 crash in Greenland on January 21, 1968, the US even abandoned a nuke there. There were four nukes on the plane and the Pentagon maintained that all four weapons have been destroyed. And this may be technically true since bombs were

no longer complete these bombs, but declassified documents obtained by the BBC under the US Freedom Information Act, parts of which remain classified reveal a much darker story, which has been confirmed by individuals involved in the clear up and those who have had access to details since. The documents make clear that within weeks of the incident investigators piecing together the fragments realize that only three of the weapons could be accounted for. Even by the end of January, one document talks of a blackin section of ice, which would refrozen with shroud lines from a weapon parachute.

Speculate something melted through ice, such as burning, primary, or secondary, the document reads, the primary or secondary referring to parts of the weapon. By April, a decision had been taken to send a star three submarine to the base to look for the lost bomb and then the U.S. lied to Denmark. One document from July reads, fact that this operation includes search for object or missing weapon part is to be treated as confidential no foreign. The last word meaning not to be disclosed to any foreign country. I continued for discussion with Danes.

This operation should be referred to as a survey, repeat survey of bottom under impact point. The US did try to find the newt but their underwater search was be set with technical problems and his winter encroached and the ice began to freeze over the documents report something approaching panic setting in. They had to ban in the search and then just they just left the lost nuke out there under the ice. No, it was gone. Come on.

We just look at it like we gave you one. We got a free new just for funsies. We didn't even charge just for funsies. We didn't even charge you for it. Gosh dang. The bomb contained enriched uranium and plutonium and the abandoned weapons parts were highly sensitive because of the way in which the design, shape,

and amount of uranium revealed classified elements of nuclear warhead design. According to now declassified documents, the US thought that if we couldn't find it, nobody else could either. As for the nuclear materials, the US felt that they would eventually dissolve into the water harmlessly. Scientists have tested the area and the radioactive elements do seem to be buried in sediment,

which does not contaminate local water at 20 kind of, you know, critical levels. So I guess we kind of got lucky. This nuke mishap, apparently just one of many we kept secret in the 1960s. Let's talk now about Starfish Prime and Project Fishbowl. Love these names. Starfish Prime and Fishbowl. That sounds like some janky ass transformer rejects. Whoa!

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In 1958, the Soviet Union had called for a ban on atmospheric tests of nuclear weapons and went so far as to unilaterally stop such testing, but then under external political pressure, or I'm sorry, under external political pressure, the US agreed, but then in late 1961, political pressures internal to the USSR pushed Khrushchev to break them out moratorium, and the Soviets began testing once again. And then the US responded with their own secret tests. The US worried that the, that a Soviet nuclear bomb detonated in space could damage or destroy US intercontinental missiles set up a series of high altitude weapons tests called Project

Fishbowl. It's self part of the larger Operation Dominic to study what happens when nuclear weapons are detonated in space. A month that Monday in 1962, the U.S. launched a Thor missile, another sweet name, from Johnston Island in a toll about 900 miles southwest of Hawaii, the missile arced up to a height of over 660 miles. Jesus. Then came back down at the pre-programmed height of 240 miles above sea level, 400 kilometers, just seconds

after 9 o'clock, universal or UTC, time at the 1.4 megaton nuclear warhead detonated, and they damn near ripped a fucking hole in the sky. 1.4 megaton is the equivalent of 1.4 million tons of TNT exploding, and that still doesn't really explain how powerful this bomb was. TNT releases this energy in the form of heat and light. Nukes also do that. Plus released vast amounts of X-rays and gamma rays, high energy forms of light, also released subatomic particles like electrons and heavy ions. All of this created a huge artificial aurora, basically one of the most expensive light shows in history history also created an electromagnetic pulse

in the EMP. The strength of this EMP was so great it affected the flow of electricity on over a thousand miles away. In Hawaii, it blew out hundreds of street lights, caused widespread telephone outages, also created dangerous electrical surges on airplanes and radio blackouts all over the place because thing it didn't knock any planes out of the sky. Also gave the Earth a new radiation belt. Many of the electrons from the blast didn't fall down into the Earth's atmosphere, but

instead lingered in space for months. Trapped by Earth's magnetic field, creating an artificial radiation belt high above the planet's service. What the fuck do these guys almost do? It destroyed some satellites. When a high-speed electron hits a satellite, it can generate a sort of a miniature EMP. The details are complex, but the net effect

is that these electrons can zap satellites with some no-no-notty-boy-zapp magic juice and can damage their electronics. The pulse of electrons from the starfish prime detonation damaged at least six satellites. Back when there wasn't that many satellites floating around, one of which was a Soviet satellite, all of which eventually failed, you know, completely due to this blast.

Other satellite features of the time maybe are other satellite failures, excuse me at the time, maybe linked to the explosion as well. This blast led to a scary possibility. We still worry about today. It just demonstrated how truly dangerous a high altitude nuke blast can be. In 2010, the defense threat reduction agency issued a report called collateral damage to satellites from an EMP attack. And it basically states that one high altitude nuclear blast could cripple the United States.

Just one, due to our increasing reliance on satellites for communication, surveillance, and so much more, I never thought about something like that before, right? About a bomb that doesn't even hit anything here on Earth, that a weapon could be used like that. That's a new thing to be afraid of. Like a bomb could go 100 miles up in the air, release a huge blast, and then just fuck up all of our satellites. Good.

Something else to think about before we go into bed. Next on the list of declassified information is another weapon of mass destruction. One located in space called Project Thor, the 107 country outer space treaty signed in 1967 prohibits nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons from being placed in or used from Earth's orbit. And right after signing it, the US military immediately began secretly exploring Aleupol. Project Thor was the US Air Force's pursuit of the simplest weapon ever, in some sense, a giant tungsten rod rocket that could hit a city with the explosive power of an intercontinental ballistic missile.

Excuse me. The system described in the 2003 United States Air Force report was that of 20-foot-long, one-foot diameter tungsten rods that are satellite-controlled, have global strike capability, and have impact speeds of Mach 10. Such a weapon could destroy a target basically anywhere on Earth with 15 minutes notice. This is like some video game shit. There is no requirement to deploy missiles, aircraft, or other vehicles, so the system most cleverly is not prohibited by either the outer

space treaty or the anti-ballistic missile treaty. The military had already been playing around with this type of technology. During the Vietnam War, the US used what it's called, what it called lazy dog bombs. These were simply solid steel pieces, less than two inches long, fit it with fins, or two inches thick, fit it with fins, two inches long to be pretty tight. They were not explosives. They were just simply dropped by the hundreds from planes flying above Vietnam. And these little projectiles, they called it kinetic bombardment. They could reach speeds up to 500 miles an hour as they fell to the ground and could penetrate nine inches of concrete after being dropped from as little as 3000 feet.

The idea is like shooting bullets at a target, except instead of losing velocity as it travels, these projectiles gain velocity and then energy that will be expanded on impact, creating roughly the same amount of damage as an actual explosive. Pretty cool science there. Back in Vietnam, they were just shot gunning a large swath of jungle, reigning bullet-sized death at high speeds. Maybe they were two inches long. I thought that was a typo.

I think I might know it, but I think that's actually right. There was a little tiny, little two-inch long with fence, yeah. And this is how Project Thor came to be. Much, much bigger projectiles. These big rods can penetrate hundreds of feet into the earth. They can destroy any potential hardened bunkers or secret underground sites. And more than that, when these rods would hit the explosion, would be on par with the magnitude of a ground penetrating nuclear weapon, but with no fallout.

Just because of the weight and just the speed of impact, is hitting would create an explosion of a sort, even though there's no explosive components to the device. This could be the future of warfare, right? If it's ever developed. Just currently shooting tungsten rods from space, I think it's still theoretical. I think, maybe it still exists, or maybe it already exists, excuse me, and it's just classified.

Speaking of the future of warfare, according to declassified documents, US military was thinking about building a base on the moon way back in the 50s with Project Horizon. Right? Building a fucking moon base. Project Horizon was a study to determine the feasibility of constructing a military base on the moon. On June 8th, 1959, a group of the Army Ballistic Missile Agency, Amba, or Abma, excuse me, produced for the US Department of the Army a report entitled Project Horizon, a US Army study for the establishment of a lunar military outpost.

Here are 10 reasons the report gave for pursuing this plan. The report said that the establishment of a manned US outpost on the moon would one demonstrate the US scientific leadership in outer space, two support scientific explorations and investigations, three extend extend and improve space reconnaissance and surveillance capabilities and control of space, four, extend and improve communications and serve as a communications relay station, five, provide a basic and supporting research laboratory

for space research and development activity, six, develop a stable low gravity outpost for use as a launch site for deep space exploration. 7. Provide an opportunity for scientific exploration and development of a space mapping and survey system. 8. Provide an emergency staging area, rescue capability or navigational aid for other space activity.

9. Be super fucking cool and make every dude working on it, stick super hard. 10. Really impress hot chicks at bars when you tell them you're a moon soldier. I may or may not have made up nine and 10. Okay, all right, let's change things up a bit for a bit. And then we're gonna get into some,

I think the most interesting declassified information is at the back half of this sub today. Right now, let's look at the history of leaking sensitive info and look at some high profile leakers during today's little baby of a time suck timeline. In December of 1772, Benjamin Franklin, I've heard of him. I used to think he was one of America's early presidents, spoiler alert, he's not.

In 1772, he was serving as Britain's postmaster general of the American colonies, and he anonymously received a packet of letters written to a British official by Thomas Hutchinson, the governor of Massachusetts. In the letters, Hutchinson agreed, urged Britain to send additional troops to deter rebellious colonists in Boston. Franklin circulated the letters privately. He leaked that shit, and then John Adams had them published

in the Boston Gazette in 1773, prompting a scandal, disforced Hutchinson to flee the country and field tensions that would lead directly to the Revolutionary War. When three innocent men were accused of leaking the letters, Franklin admitted his role in the affair.

He was publicly reprimanded by Parliament, dismissed as Postmaster General, military war. When three innocent men were accused of leaking letters, Franks admitted his role in the affair. He was publicly reprimanded by parliament, dismissed as postmaster general, lucky they didn't hang him. If they had, he would have never become America's third president. He was never pregnant. 1848, the reporter, John Nugent, who I like to picture looking exactly like insane rock or Ted Nugent, published an unsigned copy of the Treaty of Guadalupe, Hidalgo, which would conclude the

two-year-long Mexican-American war in the New York Herald. Question by a furious Senate, New York refused to reveal his source beyond insisting it was not a member of the Senate. He was kept in a virtual house arrest at the Capitol for a month, but didn't crack and rat out his source. Ten years later, President James Buchanan gave New York a valuable commission to investigate possible developments in New Caledonia, now British Columbia. Evidence suggests that Bucannon, as Secretary of State, was the source of the earlier treaties leak. People have been leaking shit the whole time. We've

been a country. June 1971, the New York Times published a series of excerpts from a top secret Department of Defense report about US involvement in Vietnam between 1945 and 1967. Part of a study commissioned by Secretary Defense Robert McNamara, the so-called Pentagon papers, revealed that four successive presidential administrations had deliberately misled Congress, and the American public about the scope, objectives, and progress of the Vietnam War. Daniel Ellsberg, a military analyst who opposed the war and had surreptitiously photocopied and leaked the documents, was prosecuted under the 1917 espionage act, but the judge later dismissed the charges. Exactly 40 years after the Pentagon papers leaked,

they were declassified and for the first time published in their entirety on the National Archives website. You can check that and Google that if you want to find out more about that one. In mid 1972, five men were arrested for breaking into and trying to bug Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate Hotel Complex in Washington, DC. Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward of the Washington Post were subsequently able to connect the breaking directly to President Richard Nixon's administration, leading to a series of Senate hearings and eventually to Nixon's resignation in 1974. To get their story, Woodward and Bernstein relied heavily

on information from an anonymous informant, a leaked W. Deepthroat. The identity of the man responsible for exposing the biggest political scandal in US history remained a secret for 33 years until in 2005, the former FBI agent Mark felt revealed himself to be deep throat. In July 2003, Joseph Wilson, who had been a CIA envoy to Niger in 2002, published an op-ed in the New York Times saying, George W. Bush's claim that Iraq attempted to buy uranium from Niger, which the president used to build his case to justify invading Iraq was unsubstantiated. Oh my heck!

This is actually a really big one. Lesson two weeks later, political commentator Robert Novak wrote a column in the Washington Post in which he revealed that Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, was a CIA operative. With her cover blown, Plame's work with the agency was compromised, and Wilson accused the White House of leaking her identity to punish him. An investigation led by a special prosecutor interviewed by a special prosecutor interviewed Bush, vice president Dick Cheney and other officials, as well as a number of journalists. And in 2007, Lewis Scooter to Libby, Chinese chief of staff was found guilty on accounts of perjury, obstruction of justice, and making false statements during the investigation.

Hello scapegoat. President Bush later commuted his 30 month sentence must be nice. Libby wasn't the leaked source, however, Richard L. Armitage, a former deputy secretary of state, later acknowledged his conversation with Novak likely led to the article outing blame. I've forgotten all about this until this week's research. So now who's saying was a bad dude, but the justification we use to invade his country was proven to be total bullshit. And I say that as someone who was glad he's dead, but the truth is the truth. Joseph Wilson uncovered a pretty unpleasant truth.

In October 2002, Bush said that Saddam Hussein had a massive stockpile of biological weapons, but as CIA director George Tennant noted in early 2004, the CIA had informed policy makers, policy makers, it had no specific information on the types or quantities of weapons, agents, or stockpiles at Baghdad's disposal. The massive stockpile was literally just made up. When you're the president, you get to lie about a reason for going to war, a war that, you know, gets around 300,000 people killed and you don't even lose your job.

You lie at your job, and if it leads to one person getting killed, you are fucked. And again, I say this is someone who is glad we killed Saddam Hussein. And I don't even hate President Bush. I like his dad better, you know, than I like him, but I don't hate him. People forget about a lot of cool civil liberties shitty dead, you know, except that a record number of refugees, fought for immigrant rights, which is surprising, right? To hear the media doesn't report much on that or didn't. So yeah, I don't hate him.

Also, he was a mush mouth like me. I just hate what big political leaders can do and get away with. The rest of us do something like that. We could fucking hammered. They get to walk off with a multi-million dollar retirement packages. October 2010, WikiLeaks posted nearly 400,000

classified military documents concerning the Iraq war. A massive info dump to dwarf its release of some 77,000 documents on the war in Afghanistan several months earlier. WikiLeaks founder the Australian journalist, Julian Assange, shared the documents with the press, including the New York Times, their Spiegel, the Guardian, among the revelations in the so-called Iraq war logs was evidence that the US military deliberately ignored abuse of detainees by its Iraqi allies,

and there were actually 15,000 more civilian casualties in previously acknowledged. And where did a lot of these WikiLeaks come from from Chelsea Manning? Chelsea Manning, known as private first class Bradley Manning, when she was serving in the US Army intelligence, as an analyst and Iraq, was later convicted under the Espionage Act for leaking this information, sends to 35 years imprisonment, Shader Senn's commuted by President Barack Obama

in January 2017. WikiLeaks also released thousands of email stolen from the computer systems of the Democratic National Committee in 2016. The email sparked criticism of the committee and Hillary Clinton's campaign. On April 11, 2019, a sond was arrested by British authorities inside the embassy of Ecuador and London. He faces an extradition hearing in England to determine if he will be sent United States to face 17 charges of spine, one charge of conspiring to hack government computers

in the 2010 leak. Another famous secret leaker, Edward Snowden, someone could probably do a full suck on. 2013 Edward J. Snowden technical contractor, former CIA employee, leaked classified details of a top secret national security administration, NSA electronic surveillance program, code name prism to the Washington Post and to the Guardian. The information when Snowden obtained while working as a subcontractor for the NSA in Hawaii revealed that the NSA and FBI were collecting data, including email, chats, videos, photos, social networking information,

and more from ordinary internet users in the US and abroad, possibly illegally, as in illegally. Under fire for breach of privacy, President Obama's administration defended the surveillance program program claiming it helped prevent terrorist attacks. Though some denounced Noden as a traitor, many others supported his actions calling him a whistleblower standing up for personal freedoms. After federal prosecutors charged Noden under the espionage act, Russia gave him asylum.

He remains there after several attempts to gain a presidential pardon have proven unsuccessful. We can do a whole suck. Yeah, about prison and Snowden. Privacy versus security. Snowden's leak really pushed this issue into the national conversation. Revealed amongst other things was that a subsidiary of Verizon had turned over all of its logs to the NSA, logs tracking all of its customers' telephone calls. And while this happened under Obama's presidency, prison began in 2007 and the wake of the passage of the Protect Act passed by the Bush administration. So don't go partisan on this one. Democrats and Republicans had a hand in all this. Hand, tricky issue.

I mean, do you think the government should be able to listen in and track your personal phone calls? Doing that could help prevent terrorist attacks and keep you safer for sure. The more surveillance there is, the harder it is to coordinate terrorist attacks, the harder it is to coordinate criminal activity in general. However, this all would make it much easier

to control the population, should a death spot ever come to power and have access to this technology. Right, imagine if some Stalin-type leader came to power, had the ability to monitor everything you do, including your phone calls, email, social media posts, messages, browser searches. type leader came to power had the ability to monitor, monitor everything you do, including your phone calls, emails, social media posts, messages, browser searches. Also, there's just the argument that you have a fundamental, fundamental right to have some fucking privacy. Just like the government shouldn't be able to watch you take a shower or or or DJ your

tugboat captain, maybe the government shouldn't be able to listen in on your phone calls either. To really dig into this privacy debate, we'd need to devote entire suck to it. For today, let's pop out of this timeline. I told you just be a little fella and let's get back to some some more interesting declassified military documents. Good job, soldier. You've made it back. Barely.

Okay, we're going to finish this act. We need it back. Barely. Okay, we're gonna finish this out by looking into two big categories of information dumps, extreme government overreach and military war crimes. We'll start with Operation Sea Spray. Beginning on September 26th, 1950, the crew of a US Navy mine sweepers ship spent six days spraying spraying bear with me. Seratia, uh, marcesince.

Marces, yeah, I did it. Yeah, I did it. Uh, spraying seratia marcesins into the air about two miles off to Northern California coast. The bacterium seratia marcesince lives in soil and water best known for its ability to produce bright red pigment. This flashy trait makes this particular microbe useful in experiments. It's so bright, it's easy to see where it is.

The project was called Operation Sea Spray, and it's aim was to determine the susceptibility of a big city like San Francisco to a bioweapon attack by terrorists. The following days, the military took samples at 43 sites, attracted the bacteria spread, found that it had quickly infested not only the city but the surrounding suburbs as well during the test residents of these areas would have inhaled millions of bacterial spores clearly their test showed San Francisco and cities with similar size and topography could face germ warfare threats so what's the problem? Well the problem is this test killed at least one dude. I made a bunch of other people sick because uh Siratia uh merissons or merissons

is also just not good for you and it and it's not just a uh... thing that can easily be seen it's bad for you and testing for biological warfare the u.s. government accidentally engaged in a little bit of biological warfare against its own citizens and tried to hide the fact that it did this at the time the u.s. military thought that the saratia could not harm humans the bug was again mostly known for just being, you know, bright red and easy to see. This all chains are understanding of this changed when a week after the test, 11 local residents checked into a Stanford University

hospital complaining of urinary tract infections. And who knows how many other people saw various other doctors? Upon testing their pee, the doctors noticed that the pathogen had a red hue. After scientists identified the microbe, the cases collectively became the first recorded outbreak of serratia marcesence. One patient, a man named Edward Nevin, who is recovering from prostrate surgery, died. Some have suggested that the release forever change the area's microbial ecology as well. And then the military performed similar tests in other cities across the country from almost 20 years, getting who knows how many other people sick, perhaps killing other people, stopping only

when President Richard Nixon halted all germ warfare research in 1969. The San Francisco experiment did not become public knowledge until 1976, excuse me, man, gosh, what are they thinking? Sorry about that, guys, gosh, what are they thinking? Sorry about that, guys. We're just trying to keep you safe by spraying your cities with bacteria. Who could have known that backfire?

It's almost like we should have ran more tests or something before we did that. You're ready to spray down the base, son. Yes, sir, but sir, do you think that maybe we should learn a bit more about this stuff, sir? Maybe find out if it is bad for citizens or not. You some kind of nerd, son No sir, not a nerd sir. Well then shut the fuck up about test son.

Tester for nerds. We don't test shit. We do shit. You hear me, you fucking maggot. You fucking beaker love nerd. You communist. You bunching burner. Number crunching shit nerd.

I will shit in your mouth, Private. I will test your ability. You my shit. You understand me son. Not really sir. Things have escalated very quickly sir. I will test your ability. He must shit. Do you understand me son? Not not really sir. Things have escalated very quickly sir. I'm quite confused sir. Sorry prophet I got into character too hard, but I started yelling and just kind of kept going Okay, I'm back now This next test it on human story one of the worst secrets America's ever kept that we know of

The Tuske a tusk of. The Tuskegee, a Tuske God damn it. Tuskegee, syphilis experiment. That word, I have so many, I went over all these words so many times. The Tuskegee syphilis experiment. July 25th, 1972, the public learned that over the course of the previous 40 years, a government medical experiment conducted in the Tuskegee, Alabama area, had allowed hundreds of African-American men with syphilis to go untreated so that scientists could study the effects of the disease.

Jesus. The experiment had been launched by and carried out by the United States Public Health Service of about 600 Alabama black men who originally took part in the study, 200 or so were allowed to suffer the disease and its side effects without treatment even after penicillin was discovered as a cure for syphilis. As with the Associated Press reported when it broke this story, then the US Public Health Service officials said that survivors of the experiment were now too old to be treated

for syphilis. Nice. Sorry, fellas. Whoopsies. Sorry about four decades of syphilis. Is it too late to say JK? By the end of study in 1972, only 74 of the test subjects were alive. Of the original 399 men, 28 had died of syphilis, 100 were dead of related complications. And because the

study's length and the way treatment options had evolved in the intervening years, it was hard to pin the blame on an individual, so really no one got any trouble. The doctors at launches study were already retired or dead by the time anybody knew what went on. One of the masterminds of this experiment, Thomas Perrin Jr., after kicking off this experiment, actually went on to become the sixth surgeon general of the United States. From 1936 to 1948, he was the main man tasked with keeping Americans healthy, so fucked up, so blatantly horrifically

racist, his poor bastards. Participants were told back in 1932 that they were going to be given free medical care and free meals, 600 impoverished African American sharecroppers from Macon County, Alabama were told that. 399 of them had syphilis, 201 did not, the control group. These guys were told this study was going to last for six months, a little bit of a lie because it lasted for 40 fucking years. None of the 399 men who had syphilis were told they had it. So they were never offered proper treatment by the doctors who knew they had it. They were told they had bad blood,

a colloquialism. They can mean anything from anemia to just not feeling good because it who knows how, who knows why. By 1947, penicillin had been determined to be an effective cure for syphilis, and these men were never offered that cure. Doctors intentionally withheld this information. Also, researchers went out of their way to prevent those who have been infected

from receiving treatment at other area clinics. When a number of these men were drafted for service in World War II, and were found to have syphilis by army doctors, researchers contacted those doctors, told the army not to treat them. Also, at least 40 of the men's wives also ended up with syphilis. At least 19 kids were born with syphilis. 1977, President Clinton apologized on behalf of the U.S. government for this experiment. And he should have since his wife, Hillary Clinton, obviously came up with the whole thing because she was definitely alive back in 1932 because she's an immortal demon.

Wait, no wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm not Alex Jones, forget about that. How did researchers ever justify this? Well first off, they were obviously very racist. They didn't really care about these guys because they were black. Apparently, they also reason that they were not harming these black men because these guys were unlikely in their minds to get treatment for their sephilis. Anyway, so fucked up. I like to pour to see a doctor, so, you know, so fuck them.

Fuck them. Fuck the oldest we took. What was it called? Hypocritical O's? I don't care. I don't have my fingers crossed. Anyway, let's just get a little get really, really sick and just die. You know, just let them be human lab rights. Just lab rights, just for funsies. Some of these men did seek treatment. They did ask for penicillin from other area doctors.

They were told they were given it. Nope, they were just given a placebo instead. And did anyone get any legal trouble for this as I said earlier? No. Some people did get some money as part of a settlement of a class action lawsuit subsequently filed by the NAACP on behalf of study participants and their descendants. The US government paid 10 million, 51.8 million in 2019 dollars.

The government agreed to provide free medical treatment to surviving participants, which there wasn't that many, and to surviving family members infected also Congress created a commission empowered to write regulations to deter such abuse from occurring in the future. This experiment further shattered trust in the government and many African American communities and rightly so and syphilis no joke. Shortly after getting infected the first symptom is a sore, like this canker. Its next early stages syphilis symptoms can include swollen eyes, kidney, liver, spleen, bone or joints, you know,

pain in these areas, fever, weight loss, muscle ache, loss of appetite. In the final stages, symptoms can include internal organ damage, brain, nerves, eyes, heart, blood vessels, liver, bones, joints, loss of motor skills, paralysis, numbness, gradual blindness, dementia, mental illness. It can just rot your brain out of your head. The serious illness. Okay, next atrocity, Operation LAC, large area coverage. An operation that makes conspiracy nuts

rant about chemtrails seem a lot more credible than I would like them to seem. In the 1950s and 60s, the US military conducted top secret experiments on the citizens of the US and Canada. Crop dusting was potentially toxic chemicals from coast to coast to again simulate a biological weapons attack. And St. Louis, Missouri may have gotten the worst of it.

For years, St. Louis residents were exposed to radioactive compounds. A researcher is claiming. While it is known to the government sprayed harmless zinc cadmium sulfide particles over the general population in St. Louis, Professor Lisa Martino Taylor, associateologist at St. Louis Community College claims that a radioactive additive was also mixed in with the compound. She has accrued detailed descriptions as well as photographs of the spraying was exposed or which exposed the unwitting public, predominantly in low-income and minority communities

to radioactive particles. I feel like I've forgotten how to talk today. Every word seems challenging right now. The study was secretive for a reason. They didn't have volunteers stepping up and saying, yeah, all breeds zinc, cadmium sulfide with radioactive particles, said Professor Martino Taylor, who I love. Through her research, she

found photographs of how the particles were distributed from 1953 to 1954, and then again, from 1963 to 1965. And it didn't just happen in St. Louis. And Corpus Christi, the chemical was dropped from airplanes over large swaths of that city. On St. Louis, the army put chemical sprayers on buildings, like schools and public housing projects, mounted them in station wagons for mobile use, just spraying the fucking shit out of everybody. Despite the extent of the experiment, local politicians were not notified about the content of the testing. The people of St. Louis were told that the army was testing smoke screens to protect cities from a Russian attack when really they were

being sprayed down with chemicals. It was pretty shocking the level of duplicity and secrecy. Clearly, they went to great lengths to deceive people. Professor Martino Taylor said, yes, she, she accrued hundreds of pages of declassified information, which she has made available online. In a research, she found that the greatest concentration of spray in St. Louis was at the Pruitt Igo public housing complex, home to 10,000 low income residents. She said that 70% of those residents were children under the age of 12. And she says this was a violation of all medical ethics, all international codes and the military's own policy

at the time. There was a lot of evidence that shows people in St. Louis and the city in particular, in particular minority communities were subjected to military testing that was connected to a larger radiological weapons testing priority. This, you know, this suck is just full of so many goddamn big words.

I never feel mentally prepared. Like, I always feel surprised, I guess, what I'm trying to think. Because I read this stuff over and over again. It's not like I have time to rehearse two and a half hour podcasts. I don't know what maniac does that. But then sometimes you get in here and you're like, oh, this shit is way harder to say in a fluid way that is to read. Okay. This next one might be even scarier. Very illuminati-esque. A US propaganda operation. I did not know about, kind of wish I didn't know about. Government-sponsored fake news.

There's a saying that the media doesn't tell you what to think, but what to think about. This is a pretty good example of the government working with media to get you to think about what they want you to think about. Let's talk about Operation Mockingbird. Following the Second World War, the CIA was able to gain control over what was being published, not only in the USA, but more in general across the globe. It influenced what the public should be allowed to see, which should be concealed, helped determine what the public saw, heard, and read on a daily basis. Operation Mockingbird was a United States CIA campaign

that aimed not only to influence the media, but also infiltrate it. Starting in the 1950s, the CIA recruited journalists, editors, and students in order to write and promulgate, promulgate, false stories. The CIA stories were pure propaganda and their employees were paid huge

salaries in order to promote fake news essentially the cia managed to control both national and international newspapers to good old-fashioned bribes during the fifty's the director of the cia alan w dellis and cia co-hort cord mire devised an organized a propaganda outreach program they recruited leading american journalists into a network in order to, in order to, you know, push the CIA's views.

Allegedly, more than a billion dollars would be invested annually for several years in this propaganda program. The full scope of this program has never been declassified fully. The CIA's writers were generously, you know, paid. They were, there were no limits on how much money they could receive. Sometimes they were paid more than half a million dollars to spread the information given to them by the CIA. When the CIA got caught, they did not reveal the newspapers, the names of journalists, with whom they had collaborated with in the past. In 1975, the CIA admitted their manipulation of mainstream media in order to forge and redirect

the opinions of American citizens. They admitted that information was distorted in order to fit specific agendas. That's fucking, that's pretty, that's pretty heavy. Check out this report excerpt published by the US Congress in 1976. It says, the CIA currently maintains a network of several hundred foreign individuals around the world who provide intelligence for the CIA and at times attempt to influence opinion through the years of covert propaganda. These individuals provide the CIA with direct access to a large number of newspapers and periodicals,

scores of press services and news agencies, radio and television stations, commercial book publishers, and other foreign media outlets. Although in 1975, George H.W. Bush publicly ended the CIA relations with the U.S. media. The CIA is still believed to be actively involved with foreign news organizations, which in turn feed the U.S. media with information. with the US media. The CIA is still believed to be actively involved with foreign news organizations,

which in turn feed the US media with information. This project has not been officially discontinued. Man, conspiracy theorists looking less and less crazy. God damn it. The suck is shaking my brain up. There's just so much information in this one. Messing with my head ways, I don't like, kind of like this happened. I don't like that we don't know to the extent to which it happened. CIA, man, they are the't know to the extent to which it happened. CIA, man, they are the one group that I worry about the most would have come to conspiracies. Now I'm even more convinced.

Those fuckers killed Kennedy, not even kidding. If you want to know more of my thoughts concerning that conspiracy, I did a two-parter on the JFK assassination, suck 38, bonus suck six. First, MK Ultra, now this, what is the CIA up to now? Man, the CIA must love all the wacky, little conspiracy shit floating around on the web. People talking about lizard illuminati,

and night's tempers, hiding magical treasure, satanic pedophile rings. You know, they probably have agents assigned to disinformation strategies or campaigns, stoking those fires. Not even kidding. I bet they actually do. Keep conspiracy minded folk distracted by all that bullshit,

while they actually do fuck with us and fuck with other nations in various nefarious ways. Damn it, Nimrod, let the truth be revealed. What are they up to? Is David Ica, CIA operative? And we haven't even talked about co-intel pro yet, but we will, right after an idiots of the internet about Operation Mockingbird,

where I can't tell who is being idiotic anymore because my brain is ruined. A seven years ago, user HedgeDuck28 posted a clip from a 1975 House Intelligence Committee hearing where the CIA admits to Operation Mockingbird the cia admits to bribe in the media the president of cbs admits to being contacted by the cia to uh... with the cia wanted to influence their media uh... tyler dern nice nice fight club reference posts there is no conspiracy only truth you choose not to accept

and i would have left out completely three a-go now not so much. I don't think all conspiracies are real because we know, you know, just because we know the sum are real. Ethological fallacy. Think that because, okay, few conspiracies are real, now they must all be real. But way more seem to be real than I would like. Okay, Tyler Darden, with you on this one more than I would like to be, more than I used to be. Debra Veal Post, I remember in sixth grade, when the teacher was explaining communism and false information, spreading through their printed history books and media, I asked, how do we know our government is not doing the very same thing to us?

Teacher wasn't too happy with that question, and well, I can't make fun of this. You were right Debra. You were right. Don't let them keep you quiet. Mighty Matt 28, post what a lot of people have posted variations of in this thread, is Anderson Cooper being paid by the CIA. Get the fuck, maybe.

I don't know, I don't know, maybe now, maybe is. How insane is that to think about? One of our most famous news personalities or several of them could actually be CIA puppets. I mean, you know, stuff happens. I missed a good old days like three days ago when all the stuff seems stupid to me. Mr. Seal duck post, golly gosh, I'm glad none of that goes on today. Ha ha, me, me too, Mr. Seal.

Oh, oh, oh, what a dang it. Okay, that was sarcasm. Ah, okay. Dylan MC2 goes after a lot of partisan sniping in the comment thread and posts. For those of you throwing blame on left wing or right wing media, you clearly don't get the message of the video.

Propaganda is in all political media. And I don't know about all. I don't like language like all or none, but, I don't think if we're still being manipulated that it's just coming from either the Republican party or the Democratic party. Way more likely to me that it's coming from both. And that a lot of the arguing is just a smoke screen to hide the real truth and got

damn it. Now I'm, I've sounded like a fucking conspiracy nut again. Maybe I'm hit. I dug too deep. Now I'm going to be an idiot of the internet. It was a good run. Set mind and motion posts. Yeah.

And what was one of the most promoted books post World War Two to kill a mockingbird? Okay. All right. This, this seems a little bit too far. I mean, what are you even saying here, mind and motion, that this, that this title proves that the CIA was hiding in plain sight or the Harper Lee was trying to tell us that we should kill the CIA or that she was telling, telling us to kill the media or that she was in the CIA. You're ruining what I thought was a very credible thread with your too far bullshit. But man, but how did a lot of these comments look like now? I haven't gotten totally crazy, by the way.

I know a lot of conspiracies promote on the web, like Nazis live on the moon are just playing crazy, but a lot of the shit that looks crazy, maybe it isn't real crazy conspiracies, have turned out to be true. Most of them have happened quite some time ago that we know about, but what are we gonna learn about in 25 years, you know? Are we gonna learn that I was the real, the internet, this entire time?

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know anything anymore. It is. I'll be into that. Into that. Into that. I thought my brain is melting with all this stuff. It is the internet. It's the internet.

So, my brain is melting with all this stuff. Now, let's talk about Cointel Pro. The FBI began Cointel Pro short for counterintelligence program. It's COIN, TEL, PRL in 1956 to disrupt the activities of the Communist Party in the United States. And also to fuck with a lot of African Americans who had nothing to do with communism. Its stated aim was to spy on infiltrate discredit, disrupt and destroy domestic organizations and individuals.

It can be considered subversive. According to the FBI, intensified attention under this program should be afforded to the activities of such groups as the student nonviolent coordinating committee, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, revolutionary action movement, the deacons for defense and justice, Congress of racial equality, and the nation of Islam. Basically, if you dared to question the government and didn't just do what you were told and accept a status quo, Jay Edgar Hoover and his goons were going to take a bill, shit, in your lunchbox. In the 1960s, the focus of Coentell Pro was expanded to include a number of other domestic

groups, such as the Ku Klux Klan, the Socialist Workers'el Pro was expanded to include a number of other domestic groups, such as the Ku Klux Klan, the Socialist Workers Party, and the Black Pansers Party. On March 8, 1971, a group of anonymous activists, broken to the small, two-man office of the FBI in Media, Pennsylvania, stole more than 1,000 FBI documents, revealed years of systematic wiretapping, infiltration medium manipulation designed to suppress American descent. The Citizens Commission to investigate the FBI as the group called itself forced its way in at night with a crowbar while much of the country was watching the Muhammad Ali Joe

Frazier fight. When agents arrived for work the next morning they found the file cabinets virtually empty within a few weeks documents began to show up mailed anonymously and Manila envelopes with no return address in the newsrooms of major American newspapers. Co-intel pro tactics included discrediting targets through psychological warfare, planting false reports in the media, smearing through forged letters, harassment, wrongful imprisonment, extra legal violence, and even allegedly assassination. I mean, these motherfuckers were ruthless in this.

And this is happening to American citizens. Again, it's a hand of its own government. Covert operations under Coentelpro took place between 1956 and 1971. Many believe Coentelpro operatives had a hand in the deaths of Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, and many others. Right?

That they were carrying out assassinations like JFK? Seriously though, here in American soil. Allegedly all co-intel pro operations ended in 1971, although limited in scope, about two tenths of one percent of the FBI's workload over a 15 year period. Co-intel pro was later rightfully criticized by Congress and the American people for abridging First Amendment rights

and for other reasons, man, it's just shit's still going on. Tinfoil hat wear is looking more credible to me right now. Is Reverend Dr. Horsecock Johnson Paisley a CIA or FBI operative? Is his wing wiretapped? Is the script keeper feeding me disinformation? Is the queen of the suck a dirty Polish spy? I am feeling a little bit paranoid with this with a suck. Now let's talk about how the US government secretly sterilized thousands of citizens. 1976, the US government admitted authorized sterilization of Native American women, a study by, you know, or American Indian women, a study by the US general accounting office found that four of the 12 Indian health service regions sterilizedized 34006 American Any Women without their permission

between 1973 and 1976. The GAO found that 36 women under age 21 were sterilized during this period, despite a court ordered moratorium on sterilizations of women that age. Two years earlier, an independent study by Dr. Connie Pinkerton-Yuri, Choctok Cherokee, found that one in four American Indian women have been sterilized without their consent. Pinkerton-Yuri's research indicated that the Indian Health Service had singled out full blooded Indian women for sterilization procedures.

These young women received tubal legations when they were supposed to be getting appendectomies. What the fuck? Coerced sterilization is a shameful part of America's history. One does not have to go too far back to find other examples of it. Used as a means of controlling populations considered undesirable immigrants, people of color, poor people, unmarried mothers, disabled, the mentally ill, federally funded sterilization programs took place in 32 states throughout the 20th century. Beginning in 1909, continuing for 70 years, California led the country in the number of sterilization procedures performed

on men and women, often without their knowledge and consent, approximately 20,000 sterilizations took place in state institutions comprising one-third of the total number performed in the 32 states where this such action was legal. And this is another subject where there was just so much information, it just might need his own suck in the future. I don't want to dwell on one example too long today. I just want to show the totality or known totality of all these secrets. Just to remind us that we should never fully trust the powers to be, the government is not

your friend, right? They don't have to be your enemy either. There's a lot of good being done by the American government too. A lot of good being done by the military, a lot of good being done in various state-sponsored programs, a lot of good social programs. The overwhelming majority of work done by the government, I do think seems to be very good, but don't let that lull you in some false sense of security where you think, oh, whatever they say.

It's a law. I'll follow it. If they say it's good, I guess it's good then. Nope. We got to keep our eye on our bureaucratic overlords because from time to time, you know, this suck shows they for sure fuck with us. Now our declassified sucks, and heads into the military massacres and war crimes that have been covered up.

It's going to do a little incidents here. Let's head to Vietnam. There were more than a few war crimes that occurred during the Vietnam war. Declassified documents, detail 320 alleged illegal incidents that were substantiated by army investigators, not including the most notorious U.S. atrocity, the 1968 Mili massacre. Records describe recurrent attacks on ordinary Vietnamese families in their homes, farmers and rice paddies, teenagers outfishing, hundreds of soldiers and interviews with investigators and letters to commanders, described a violent minority of U.S. military members who murdered, a VIEW

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There were 78 other attacks on non-combatants in which at least 57 were killed. Ye, 56 wounded, 15 sexually assaulted. There were 141 instances in which US soldiers tortured civilian detainees or prisoners of war with fists, sticks, bats, water, or electric shock. Now let's talk about the most famous of these atrocities, the My Mealai massacre. A company of American soldiers brutally killed most of the people, women, children, and old men in the village of Mealai

on March 16th, 1968. More than 500 people were slaughtered in the Mealai massacre, including young girls, women who were raped, sometimes gang raped, sometimes mutilated before being killed. A variety of US Army officers covered up the carnage for a year because they knew the truth getting out would be detrimental to the war effort there, which is what happened when the AP reporter broke the story the following year. This shit is going to get real dark for a bit, buckle up.

Small village of Mealai is located in the Quang Nguai province, which was believed to be a stronghold of the Communist National Liberation Front, NLF, and the Viet Cong VC during the Vietnam War. The province was a frequent target of US and South Vietnamese bombing attacks. The entire region had already been heavily strained with Agent Orange, right, the deadly herbicide before this massacre took place. It sounds like it was a fucking terrible place to live if you were just some random farmer just trying to keep food on the table for the family. In March of 1968, Charlie Company, part of the American Division's 11th Infantry Brigade,

received word that V.C. guerrillas had taken control of the neighboring village of San Mai. Charlie Company went into the area on March 16th on a search and destroy mission. Charlie Company had lost some 28 of its members to death or injuries. They were down to just over 100 men and some of the soldiers were desperately wanting to dish out some payback. Army commanders had advised the soldiers of Charity Company that any Vietnamese found in the Sunmai area could be considered VC or active VC sympathizers.

They were ordered to destroy that particular village. When the company arrived shortly after dawn, the soldiers led by Lieutenant William Callie found no Viet Cong. Instead, they came across a quiet village of primarily women, children, and older men preparing their breakfast rice. And Callie decided that these obvious non-combatants needed to die.

The villagers were rounded up into groups. As the soldiers inspected their huts, despite finding only a few weapons, weapons none of the villagers attempted to access, Callally ordered his men to just shoot them down. Some of the soldiers refused to follow his command, and then Cally himself opened fire, shooting at men, women, and children indiscriminately. Mothers who were shielding their children were shot. When their children tried to run away, they too were slaughtered, huts were set on fire, anyone inside who tried to escape was gunned down.

Sergeant Michael Bernhardt, a soldier at the scene later told a reporter, I saw them shoot an M-79 grenade launcher into a group of people who were still alive, but it was mostly done with the machine gun. They were shooting women and children just like anybody else. Bernhardt said, we met no resistance and I only saw three captured weapons. We had no casualties. It was just like any other Vietnamese village, old poppassans, women and kids. As a matter of fact, I don't remember seeing one military age male in the entire place dead

or alive. In addition to killing unarmed men, women and children, the soldiers slaughtered countless livestock, raped an unknown number of women burned the village to the ground. There are pictures online of these villagers taken just after some of them had been raped, taken seconds before they were slaughtered, and they will fucking haunt you. I do not recommend you look at them. I wish I hadn't truly hate my curiosity sometimes. Callie was reported to have dragged dozens of people, including young children into a ditch

before executing them with the machine gun. Not a single shot was fired against the men of Charlie Company at Milai. And he would have gone on to butcher others that day if not for the heroic actions of warrant officer Hugh Thompson and army helicopter pilot. Officer Thompson was on a reconnaissance mission in the area. Sobble was happening, landed his aircraft between the soldiers and the retreating villagers, threatened to open fire on his fellow soldiers, onally and his men if they continue with their attacks. Thompson stated at a me live conference at Tulane University in 1994, we kept flying back

and forth and it didn't take very long until we started noticing the large number of bodies everywhere everywhere we'd look we'd see bodies. These were infants, two, three, four, five year olds women, very old men, no draft age people whatsoever. A Thompson and his crew flew dozens of survivors to receive medical care. In 1998, Thompson and two other members of his crew received these soldiers medal. The US Army's highest award for bravery not involving direct contact with the enemy. By the time the Melaie massacre ended, 504 people were dead among the victims 182 women, 17 of them pregnant and 173 children

including 56 babies. And it was covered up. And then Ron, Ron Riddenhauer, a soldier in the 11th brigade who had heard reports the massacre, but had not participated, began a campaign to bring the events to light. After writing letters to the president, Richard M. Nixon, the Pentagon, State Department, joint chiefs of staff and several congressmen and getting no response, Ridden Howard finally gave an interview to the investigative journalist Seymour Hirsch, who broke the story in November of 1969.

The army would later charge only 14 men, including Callie, Captain Ernest Medina, and Colonel Orrin Henderson, with crimes related to the events at Mili. All were acquitted except for Callie, who was found guilty of premeditated murder for order in the shootings. In March 1971, Callie was given a life sentence for his role, directing the killings at Milai. Many saw Callie as escape go, though, and his sentence was reduced upon appeal to 20 years later to 10, and then he was paroled in 1974. On May 15th, 1976, Cali married Penny Vic, the daughter of a Columbus Georgia jewelry owner, jewelry store owner. Cali

worked as his father-in-law store, became a gem, a gemologist and the couple had one son. On August 19th, 2009, we'll speak into the Kiwanis Club of greater Columbus, Cali issued an apology for his role at the Meal Eye Mas massacre saying, there is not a day that goes by that I do not feel remorse for what happened that day in Mealai. I feel remorse for the Vietnamese who are killed for their families, for the American soldiers involved, and their families, I am very sorry. Later investigations have revealed that the slaughter at Mealai was not an isolated incident, other atrocities such as a similar massacre of villagers at my key are less well known. A notorious military operation called Speedy Express killed thousands of Vietnamese civilians in the Meekong Delta earning the commander

of the operation, Major General, Julian, Evil, or, or, or you will, the nickname the butcher of the Delta. Man, Jesus Christ. I mean, if, I mean, if we're going to criticize Nottis for some of the shit that they did in World War II, we've got to be able to criticize our own military when it goes that far. It seems as if a few bad apples over in Vietnam went way too fucking far. Many defended Cali on the ground that citizens, women and children, would suddenly attack soldiers out of the blue all the time. And you couldn't know what kids or women were going to do that. But how does that defense apply to charges also

a bunch of raping that supposedly happened that day? I mean, you just can't defend it. What a terrible thing for those villagers. And also, what a terrible thing for the soldiers who were with Cali that day, but didn't fire. Talk about a tough spot. You can either shoot your own officer, maybe die in a military prison,

or you can watch kids be killed and women be raped and killed. So thankful I don't have to live with memories of something like that, man. All right, one more, Operation Popeye. Operation Popeye was a secret five-year-old scientific experiment designed to find out of Chugging Cans a spinach could provide you as soldiers fighting to Vietnam with super strength and massive forearms. No, Operation Popeye was a secret five-year-old cloud-seeding operation, meant to lengthen

the monsoon season Vietnam destabilize the enemy and allow the U.S. to win the war. It stated objective to ensure Americans won the Vietnam War would not be realized, but the U.S. government really did try to play God with weather-altering warfare. The Nixon administration distracted, denied, and it seems outright lied to Congress about this. But reporters published damning stories about rain being used as a weapon. And the Pentagon ended up leaking

some previously classified details. Eventually, the federal government would declassify its Popeye documents, international laws, aimed at preventing similar projects where we put on the books. Operation Popeye was based around this premise of cloud seating. Cloud seating is a method for artificially stimulating

precipitation like rain or snow. The practice is thought to have originated in 1946. While experimenting with dry ice, Vincent Schaefer, a self-taught chemist employed by General Electric, made a big discovery. He noticed that cloud condensation nuclei, tiny particles around which water condensates could be artificially produced to create rain and snow.

Shaffer put his discovery to the test by seeding the clouds over the Berkshire mountains and Massachusetts and supposedly successfully created precipitation. He was hailed as the first person to actually do something about the weather and not just talk about it. The New York Times wrote in his obituary. During their top secret briefing on Popeye, US were told that taxpayers paid without their knowledge, some 3.6 million a year to fund this operation, about 23 million a year in today's dollars. Popeye's success

was certainly limited, also fundamentally unverifiable, despite 80 years of cloud-seating efforts, rigorous research aimed at proving or disproving its effectiveness is still underway. At least that's what we're being told. Man, this suck is going to mess with my head for a while. Maybe the CIA is dicking around with the weather too. It's not like they're going to tell us. And that's all the declassified elite info we can talk about today. It really does kind of make my head spin after a while.

With all the information out there, all the info that still be uncovered, we can do several versions of this episode. The US government has released files on a number of US sponsored coups, military mishaps, flat out lies, from weapons in the mass destruction I rack to selling drugs and inter cities to funding coups in South America to a number of secrets involving foreign intelligence

in almost every country in the world. Declassified military documents is an endless topic. Just like we went over a ton of them in previous sucks, like MK Ultra, I'm sure we'll have more sucks in the future going in depth on one of these issues. Like the CIA's role in creating a crack epidemic in LA in the 1980s. I feel like shit like that doesn't sound that crazy

after hearing about all this other stuff. What other secrets are happening under our noses today that will likely be declassified decades from now, what other conspiracies or the tinfoil hadders a hundred percent correct about. You know, they were right about the CIA testing on, you know, American citizens without their knowledge. They were right about the Gulf of Tonkin. They were right about the NSA spying on most Americans.

Oh, man, I learned so much this copied into. This episode was loaded with info. I'd either never heard about before or never looked into before, from dropping cat bombs to almost nuking North Carolina to the Tuskegee, syphilis experiment to the CIA, bribing journalists to shape the news and so much more, we got to keep an eye on Big Brother. That's mostly what I was reminded about today, holy shit. I was also reminded that in some cases, secrecy is very important, like with our new programs, we should keep that stuff top secret. We should not be allowed into Area 51 if it would fuck with our national security.

We should also probably keep in mind that despite the crimes of the past, and almost certainly some of the present, most of the people that work in the sensitive parts of our government likely have either good or benign intentions. Our law enforcement and military and intelligence agencies do amazing work, or amongst the best in the world. I know we have some time suckers in the CIA. I've met them Seemed like good piefs. Please don't ruin my life with some misinformation or some kind of discrediting propaganda campaign Scared the shit out of me if I said anything that really bothered you I was I was I was shaking come on Decker sting I was blind about a lot of this stuff. I'm a goofball. I'm just a harmless goofball.

Forget what I said earlier, meat sacks. Anything I said that was the sound of bad, it was not true. It's all me. Always trust the government, don't complain. Don't dig. If something doesn't make sense to you, then forget about it. Just let it go.

Everybody has good intentions, you know? Listen to Michael McDonald, EWD, say your prayers, keep your head down, clap on your team, make a touchdown, go along with the crowd. And time now for top five takeaways. Time, suck, top five takeaways. Number one, the US government almost accidentally nuked North Carolina. Thanks to one faulty switch, we avoided what could have been one of our darkest days.

Number two, ethnic minorities in America have more reasons in the rest of us to be more than a little skeptical of the US government's intentions from infiltrating minority groups, and possibly assassinating leaders to the Tuskegee syphilis experiments to fucking forced sterilization. Man, some of these stories are absolutely heartbreaking. Number three, in the high atmosphere testing

of nuclear weapons, we almost broke the sky. Genki Transformer starfish primes that often EMP that altered the Earth's atmosphere for a while. Let's not do that again, please. Number four, the government really had a heart on for a while when it came to weaponizing cats. Still not sure why. I don't know who was all about that.

We heard about both cyborg kitties developed for spine and about turning cats into shitty smart bombs. And number five, new info. One more leak, a good one, an intentional one. Have you ever heard of Operation Mincemeat? Operation Mincemeat was a leak planned and executed successfully by the allies during World War Two. The plan part of the larger operation Barclay was intended to make the Germans think the Allies were planning to invade Greece and Sardinia instead of Sicily. The Allies put fake top secret invasion plans on a dead body that was left to wash up on a beach in Spain and the plan worked. The Germans found the body, copied the fake plans, the trickery made the Germans suspicious

so they ignored other real intelligence leaks thinking that those were russets. Ah, mine was a Vatabama! I wonder how Carl never found out about the Nautic Trickery. How's that a wonderful mind? I wonder if I never talked to the Ice Giant and today's talk to five takeaways. Time, suck! Tough five takeaways! D-classified military documents.

Ah, he has been sucked. Now my mind is going to be fragile for weeks. Great. Thanks to the time sucked team. Hopefully none of them are fucking spies. Thanks to the queen of the suck, Lindy Cummins. Polish can't trust her. High priest of the suck, Harmony Velocamp.

Seems unstable at times. You know, with her high priest of stuff. I follow her on Instagram. I don't know if I can trust her She's probably a plant Reverend doctor Paisley fucking definitely can't trust him now. Bye. Oh, he's a spy for sure He's fucking doing stuff all the time around here. I don't know about the bit of liquor app design crew spies Logan and Kate a spicy club fucking spies Go to our store badmagic merch.com. She want to buy spy stuff and then we have another spy script he brings act flanery badmagicmerch.com. She want to buy spy stuff. And then we have another spy script keeper

Zach Flannery. But for real, check out the Cloth and Curious Private Facebook group. If you want to make some cult member friends, probably spies. If you want to get more social in 2020, we now have more than 15,000 members in there pretty soon. It's going to be a little city, going to be a virtual city of spies and time suckers. You can also bounce over the the time-sector discord channel. We got about 5,000 die-hard suckers in her now sweet Follows on Instagram at time-sector podcast for some silliness next week we get away from silly and we get pretty dark Don't have our darkest topics yet. One that felt way too real for me since it happened to my own little backyard So to speak we're gonna be talking about serial killer really terrible human being joseph duncan

a man that among other horrible deeds he committed that included uh... multiple rapes and murders he also destroyed a family here in court laying out of back in 2005 after skipping bail on upcoming hearing for violating his parole from a less than two boys in minnesota duncan went to walmart about some night vision goggles, got some video camcorders, and he got a hold of a shotgun, got some other stuff,

a best buy, rented a red 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee, which he never intended to return, drove it in a Missouri, stole a set of license plates off another vehicle, swapped them out, kept driving, eventually made it to Interstate 90, drove west to either South Dakota or Wyoming, and then headed to Corde-Layne Idaho. He stopped at the Wolf Lodge area approximately eight miles west of Cordillane Idaho. Two little kids in bathing suits caught his attention, then he stalked their family for a few days and then he unleashed hell on fucking earth upon them. Tough suck to get through in moments, so dark, so sad, but also morbidly fascinating. That's not until next week though. This week, you still got a little bit suck left

to get through. We still got time-sucker updates, and they are fantastic. laugh about mesiphonia regarding last week's bizarre mental health disorder suck. So many good messages coming in regarding that episode. Super sucker Amanda Hayes writes, Hi Dan, I'm sure you received a ton of emails on mesiphonia. I did actually. As I'm listening to this week's episode, I just had to share my reaction. Not only does my husband chew with his mouth open, which makes me want to rip a hair out,

he also sleep juice. He smacks his lips while he's sleeping. And if I'm trying to fall asleep while this is happening, I have to leave the room because otherwise, I think I will try to smother him with a pillow. It grates on my nerves to no end. Anyway, love time, suck, and scared of death. Keep on sucking.

Well, thank you, Amanda. I'm so sorry you were married to an obvious monster demon. Sleep chewing. Huh. Hope Lindsay never starts demon. Sleep chewing. Huh. Hope Lindsey never starts this. Sleep chew. I'll have to get earplugs or go to prison for murder.

I understand your pain. Next up, kick ass meat sack, Mandy Ashley got fired up listening to the Casey Anthony suck. She sent in a message reminding us on how terrible jurors can be when assessing guilt or innocence. Mandy writes,

the Casey Anthony podcast. I just listened to it, I put it off for a while. At the end, you talked about being on a jury and how some of the people on the jury did not want to find him guilty. I lived in Louisiana for over 35 years and I was picked for a jury for child rape.

Yeah, sick. Apparently there was a child pornography ring going on in the town next to mine. The man's defense attorney could only defend him by saying he was old. That's how guilty he was. A woman on the jury did not want to convict him because of that statement. He was old. I lost my shit on this woman. As a mother of two little girls, now older, how could she want to send this man back into the world to do that to other little girls? Needless to say, she voted him guilty with the rest of us.

I had to share the story as I don't usually speak about this. Love your podcast. Keep up to great work. Uh, wow, that is scary. And, uh, and good on you, Mandy, for going off on her. She deserved it. What is fucking wrong with some people? You know, what you don't, you don't, you don't get a prison

because your old, old dirt bags need to pay for what they did just like everybody else. You don't age out of guilt. You don't age out of being a perv. Right? Way to stay strong on that jury. You might have saved other kids from nettle perv doing something to them even worse

than just looking at, well, I shouldn't say just, then look at some photos. Because that is obviously just alone very fucked out. And, you know, the more people who look at those photos, then the more people who, you know, do shit to kids to get those photos to feed that demand. Top shelf time sucker, Audrey Morales also enjoyed the Presar mental disorder suck, except for the end of it.

Audrey writes, dear master sucker and time suck crew, I just want to thank you all for your hard work and bring an attention to the mental health epidemic in our country. I'm a home health hospice nurse, gives me plenty of time to fill my ear holes with all this awesome info, but mental health awareness is a passion of mine. I've lost three friends to suicide and one to a suicide by overdose. Man, so sorry. I recently talked to a couple of groups of middle schoolers about mental health and ways to be mentally healthy.

One of the things that I suggested was to journal about one positive thing that has happened in the past 24 hours as it helps your brain recreate the experience and the happy chemicals. Credit author Sean Acre. There was at least one kid in three out of my four groups that asked, what if nothing good has happened in the past 24 hours? It blew my mind and simultaneously broke my heart that they couldn't think of even one good thing. After the second group, I ended up saying, I think it was Mr. Rogers who said, if you can't

find a good person, be a good person. Do something nice for someone, then write about it. My point is that it is a crazy world we live in, but you all are making a difference. I appreciate that so much on a different note. Who in the actual fuck thought that the chewing bit at the end was a good idea? I am convinced if I go to hell, it will be someone playing chewing sounds. I repeat it full volume, just loud enough to make me think I'm going to lose my goddamn mind sincerely. Audrey, thank you, Audrey. Yes, I'm glad we have a platform to bring more conversation

to issues like mental health. Good on you for actually working in the trenches. You're doing an important shit truly. And Joe Paisley made that decision. Joe Paisley, no one else decided to add chewing sounds to the episode's end. Probably comes to some kind of fucking CIA mind control she's working on. Joe chooses the endings and sometimes, sometimes he's a 90, 90 boy.

Uh, yes, keep fighting the good fight. Terrific time sucker. Tofer La Ferrer, ah, I'm sorry, Tofer. I'm just gonna go to Tofer. La, bruh. F- just gonna go tofer. La, F-E-R-R-I-E-R-E. La, Ferretti, I don't know. Got a long awaited answer out of last week's Bizarre Mental Disorder Suck.

Hail Nimrat. Tofer wrote, regarding the Bizarre Mental Disorder Suck, I stopped mid-suck to write this. When I was young, I had these episodes where my hands would feel 10 times bigger than they are. If I touched anything, I would have a panic attack. No matter what I touched, my hands would feel larger than the object.

A fork or a house, it didn't matter. It was as if something was misfiring or, well, I don't know. I went to several different types of doctors, had sleep studies done, no resolution, nothing, no answer, or even a suggestion as to what it could be, what it was about. The only other time I heard anyone say anything remotely similar to what I was experiencing was Roger Waters and Pink Floyd's comfortably numb with the lyric, my hands felt just like two balloons. I still have these episodes at 31, but I have learned through experience how to shut them

down for the most part. I'm able to focus my attention elsewhere now and that keeps these episodes almost instantaneous and well controlled or instantaneously well controlled, like a sneeze in my brain almost. In this week's time suck about bizarre mental disorders, I learned about Alice in Wonderland, Syndrome, or Todd Syndrome, where a person can experience feeling larger or smaller than they really are. I have an answer after all these years and feel like I could scream, I am so happy. Thank you wonderful suckers and fellow spacers. And most of all, damn,

mother fucking bringing this, damn, mother fucking bringing this meat sack, some closure. Cummins for researching this topic. I fucking love time suck. It can hardly wait to finish the episode. Thank you, kindly tofer. That makes me so happy tofer. I love that you got some closure.

Love that it brought you some joy. And now you can do further research if you choose. The not knowing must have been terrible. Hail Nimrod. You know, Nimrod led us to that disorder. He must have done it for you. He must have been thinking about you. Quick shout out to a super sucker in pain now.

John Thompson has let me know that a cult member has just experienced just about the worst thing you can experience, the loss of a child. John writes, a fellow time sucker lost his daughter recently, and I'm just writing you to send him some good vibes. His name is Brandon Spencer, and I just like everyone in this big cult of hours to keep him in your thoughts.

Sometimes life can throw us a horrible curveball, but if we all stick together, maybe we can make things a bit easier. So I'm sending all my kind thoughts to Brandon, and I hope this helps. And to anyone who's struggling in their lives, I wish you all the best. John Thompson, thanks, Dan, keep on sucking. Thank you, John, for being a good friend and so sorry for you, Brandon.

I don't have the words. If you're listening, just thinking of you, feeling for you, man, I hope you're given the space and love you need by those around you. I hope to call it the curious, can give you some of that as well. So sorry for such a tragic loss. And now I'm going to end on some mental health insight coming to us from grad student and bad ass meat sack. Aaron leaving her last name out of this. Aaron writes, dear Dan, I have refrained from referring to you by your many pandering nicknames. So it's not to feed into your blatant narcissistic personality

disorder. But really, long time listener, first time writer, just finished the episode on bizarre mental disorders. I thought I did a great job. I just wanted to share my own experiences interacting with people with mental health issues. As part of my graduate program, I completed a 12-week internship at a local inpatient mental health hospital, and Holy Cow was an interesting. One of the first patients I interacted with was a man with paranoid schizophrenia who was suffering from nihilistic delusions, aka, Cotard's syndrome. This man honestly and truly believed he was dead and in hell, refused to eat, drink, sleep, or even sit down.

One of my intern responsibilities was running treatment groups and rounding up the patients to attend them. Literally my first or second day, I knocked to enter this patient's room and find this wide-eyed, very disheveled and malodorous, aka smell to high heavens man, with blood seeping from his mouth, Jesus Christ, from being dehydrated and absolutely chewing on his lips tongue, actively trying to rip open the veins on his arm to prove he was dead and that there was no blood in his body. It was honestly terrifying. Not what I was expecting to find in a relatively small mental health unit.

This man ended up standing for over 72 hours, had to be court ordered to be forcibly given IV fluids and tranquilizers so he would sleep and not kill himself with dehydration. What I found amazing was seeing how treatment affected him. He ended up getting electroconvulsive therapy when traditional meds weren't helping, which I got to witness and holy shit was I both nervous and excited to see that. It was nothing like the movies make it out to be. The patient was under anesthesia and given a muscle paralytic to keep from convulsing. So literally the only thing that happened was his left arm twitched slightly.

Apparently even this was a rare occurrence. The psychiatrist informed me you got to see an exciting one. The whole procedure took less than 10 minutes, and most of it was prep time. The psychiatrist explained that they don't really understand the mechanism of how electro-shock therapy works, but equated it to pressing control, all-delete on a computer. Oh my God, basically doing a hard reset on your brain. What was truly amazing was to see how ECT turned this man with literally no quality of life who was so delusional

he had to actively be stopped from starving the hydrogens himself to death into a functioning human being. With in a few treatments, he was showering, eating, interactive, his peers, he presented like an adult with a mild cognitive disorder instead of a crazed maniac. I could go on and on about all the cool stuff I got to see, manic people who made Charlie Sheen's breakdown look like a cakewalk, people with really sad family backgrounds that basically set them up for failure, and unfortunately some really, really creepy pedophile

sexual deviants, including one who thought it would be funny to come up behind me in an empty room and grab my sides to surprise me. Spoiler alert, it was not funny. Just thought I'd share my experience in case you found it interesting. Yes, thanks for reading if you happen to make it this far. And if for some reason you decide to share,

please leave my last name out just for HIPAA, for safety's sake. Thanks for all you do. You and the Time Suck staff, love listening to your show. I love that even if I don't always agree with what you're saying, you're open-mindedness and genuine curiosity,

always make time suck a great listen, keep on sucking. Well, thank you and that it's so cool that you got to witness such effective treatment, Aaron. I mean, so cool to hear about that, about someone getting better, getting able to freely live their life again and not be a prisoner to such a severe mental illness. And that is cool to know that electro shock therapy

still has works free. Well, I actually met somebody to show a couple of years ago too. Um, yeah, just awesome young lady who talked about, I believe I'm remembering right. Hers was severe depression. Same thing. Nothing else worked. She had electroshock therapy and it like reset her brain in it, in it, she's like, cured her like she got to have her life back.

Uh, sorry, got side squeezed by a pito. That does not sound fun at all. Glad you like the show. Glad you're gonna graduate with a degree or maybe already have this gonna allow you to help make the world a better place. Hail fucking Nimrod. And that is all for this week's Time Sucker Updates. Thanks, time suckers. I need a net.

We all did. Have a great weekend, everybody. Joseph Dirtbag Duncan next week. YEEEP! And also the 100th episode of the Secret Suck on Thursday. Don't try and train any cats to spy this week or turn them into bombs. They don't like it. And it doesn't work.

And keep on sucking. Oh shit. I mean, I mean, you can't trust it. I mean, it could be Anderson Cooper. I mean, they got the fucking ice worms on the, you know, the fucking, they're trying to read our thoughts. And I mean, they have the Facebook and analytics. They always fucking, you know, they get in there and they start fucking born in there.

And then that, you know, leads to all the other algorithms. And then, you know, I mean, they have the Facebook and analytics, they always fucking, you know, they get in there and they start fucking boring in there. And then that leads to all the other algorithms. And then, you know, I mean, Area 51, I don't know. It's a great year's supposed to be doing all the time. You start to try and tell everything and for hail Nimrod. Hail Nimrod, hail Nimrod. Ha ha ha ha.