Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 258 - Celebrity Cloning Conspiracies

Episode Date: August 23, 2021

Oh boy. Did you know that some people think that Avril Lavigne, Britney Spears, Beyoncé, Eminem, some guy named Donald Marshall, and many other celebrities have been cloned? There are conspiracies re...volving around underground cloning centers created and run by illuminati global elites who sometimes kill celebrities who don't follow orders and then clone them to keep making music money mostly. Donny and his clones have been busy writing hit songs since before he was five years old. Most of the music you enjoy was written by clones. We look into so much crazy today. We also look into the actual science of cloning and explain what has been done clone-wise, and what's possible. We break down the difference between therapeutic cloning, reproductive cloning, and more. So much cloning! If you don't enjoy this episode, I hope your clone does. We're donating $15,000 this month to The Wildland Firefighter Foundation. Go to https://wffoundation.org/ to learn more. Watch the Suck on YouTube: https://youtu.be/79Dha0SHP3MMerch - https://badmagicmerch.com/ Discord! https://discord.gg/tqzH89v Want to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever current page hasn't been put in FB Jail :) For all merch related questions/problems: store@badmagicproductions.com (copy and paste) Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcast Wanna become a Space Lizard? We're over 10,000 strong! Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcast Sign up through Patreon and for $5 a month you get to listen to the Secret Suck, which will drop Thursdays at Noon, PST. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. You get to vote on two Monday topics each month via the app. And you get the download link for my new comedy album, Feel the Heat. Check the Patreon posts to find out how to download the new album and take advantage of other benefits.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 was Beyonce replaced by a clone after she supposedly died in 2010. What about Avril Lavigne or Megan Fox was M&M killed by the Illuminati and replaced with a clone that used him to spread their secret messages around the world. According to some people on the internet, yes, obviously, yes. According to every scientist on Earth with a firmer, or even a loose understanding of the current capabilities and limitations of cloning technology, absolutely not. Literally impossible. Despite a complete lack of scientific support, there are numerous theories that hold
Starting point is 00:00:29 to certain celebrities at some point where either taken out or accidentally killed. And then rather than lose the revenue from their super stardom, the shady people in charge of them who would often use their illuminati wealth and power to build their careers up in the first place, replace these famous entertainers with a perfect replica to make sure that gravy train kept running. And how did certain folks on the internet figure out these clonings had occurred? The smoking gun was that the celebrities looked different over a period of many years. Some people have spent countless hours pouring over pictures of these celebrities taken before
Starting point is 00:01:00 and after they were replaced to prove definitively prove that they are now clones. They're positive, they can see changes, things like different nose shapes, different haircuts, maybe a difference in overall weight that mean these celebrities are clones. Can't just be that sometimes people's appearances change with cosmetic surgery and the normal aging process. Nope, that's exactly what the Illuminati wants you to believe. And of course, the Illuminati is involved.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Some speculate they have entire underground bunkers for the clones that they sometimes torture, other times forced to write and record hip music that's later released by the supposed human artists we know and love. Yes, even the clone artists, songwriters are also clones. These are some of the claims we are exploring today. We'll also look into whether or not a cloning a fully formed adult human is even possible. When will it be possible if ever, according to one guy who claims he was born
Starting point is 00:01:52 in an illuminati torture base? Yes, you bet your suite possibly also cloned ass. This is all possible. Welcome to today's thirdized wide open, dark side of showbiz. Are you really even you, or the Illuminati gets you to addition of Time Suck? This is Michael McDonald and you're listening to Time Suck, short listening to Time Suck. Happy Monday, meets, X, Dan Cummins, suck master, illuminati celebrity clone center songwriter division, torture
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Starting point is 00:02:48 One of the best weekends they'd had there in a while. And I feel like I'm 90% back to my old self on stage working on new material. And it feels very good to be a comic again. I guess I had fun hoping in Texas the week before this episode drops off to Healeyman, Portland this weekend, August 26 to 28th. Philadelphia, September 9 to 11 to the punchline, the funny bone and Columbus, Ohio, September 24th, 25th, Cobbs and San Francisco, October 8th, 9th, new date, just added outside Seattle, angel, the wind, casino and Arlington coming
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Starting point is 00:03:46 was feet. We're not putting these on skyscrapers. Another quick reminder that our charity the month is the Wildland Firefighter Foundation, proud to donate $15,000 from Patreon. Thanks in large part to our space lizards. Go to wffoundation.org to learn more. Now let's hop into a nice mix of science and wack a doodlery. It is celebrity clone, a clock. Wake up, sheeple. Allow me to read you some cloning truth, aka a few of the five star reviews for empowerment by virtue of golden truth, human cloning by Donald Marshall. Clone believe a rich says good red pill reading worth every penny, spooky facts and story. Anonymous Kindle customer says, the most important disclosure of the asslavement of the human
Starting point is 00:04:33 race. Read this book. You need to know what's been done and what's being done. And Mr. Review says excellent book that deals not only with cloning, but with many other evil technologies that are in existence in this day and age. Lots more. Oh, man, the books author Donald Marshall believes that cloning is very real meat sex celebrities have been cloned. He has been cloned. Many believe he and others when it comes to wild claims of hidden Illuminati cloning centers. We'll spend a lot of time a lot of time to go over the very interesting claims of Donnie in the back half of this episode. Oh boy. Cloning is definitely
Starting point is 00:05:11 real. Just maybe not in the way Donald thinks it is. I talked a bit about cloning here in the suck first way back in 2017. Episode 33, the designer, baby's episode, when I gave a variety of listeners, brain aneurysms, pronouncing genome as genome, roughly a thousand times. Cloning has been an object of scientific interest to doctors, physicians, and researchers for a long time. Broadly speaking, cloning is a technique scientists use to make an exact genetic copy of a living organism.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And a clone is, by definition, an organism or cell, or group of organisms or cells, produced asexually from one ancestor or stock, to which they are genetically identical. Gene cells, tissues, even whole animals can all be cloned, have all been cloned. Some clones exist naturally in nature. For example, single-celled organisms like bacteria make exact copies of themselves, each time they asexually reproduce.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Fucking illuminati single cell bacteria. That's where the illuminati's hiding. We have to look smaller. The closest thing that humans have to clone without the intervention of a science is identical twins who aren't really clones though. There's two very, very similar organisms. Humans aren't the only creatures to have identical twins,
Starting point is 00:06:20 actually two. Dogs, cattle, randomly armadillos, few other creatures, also can sometimes have identical twins actually too. Dogs, cattle, randomly armadillos, a few other creatures, also can sometimes have identical twins. And the twins share almost the exact same genes. Identical twins are created when a fertilized egg splits in two and a study of 381 pairs of identical twins and two sets of identical triplets published earlier this year in 2021 in the scientific journal Nature Genetics found that only 38 were genetically identical. and the scientific journal Nature Genetics found that only 38 were genetically identical. Also, even when the twins, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:06:47 began off as being genetically identical, they differ more and more as time goes on. Thanks to DNA replication errors. DNA replication errors during cell division cause identical twins, aka, oh boy, mono, zygotic, there we go, monosigotic twins to diverge from each other even during the earliest ages of development.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Because of this, no identical twins are truly 100% identical. So, in the realm of the human species, at least nature isn't producing any actual clones. They're not exact 100% exact copies. Human scientists, however, have been making clones in recent decades, just not human clones. They often clone genes in order to study, better understand them, to clone a gene, researchers take DNA from a living creature and start it into a carrier, like bacteria or yeast, then every time the carrier reproduces
Starting point is 00:07:34 a new copy of the gene is also made. But even here, do again, do primarily errors in DNA replication, the copy is not always exactly the same as the original. For example, the first cat to be cloned named C.C. was a female calico cat that looked quite a bit different from her mother's self. She didn't look different just because of replication errors. For example, the color and pattern of the cat's coats is not attributed exclusively to
Starting point is 00:07:59 genes. An interesting biological phenomenon involving inactivation of the X chromosome in every cell of the female cat, which has two X chromosomes actually determines which coat color genes are switched off and which are switched on. The distribution of X inactivation, according to research so far, seems to occur randomly.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And that determines the color of the coat. So maybe eventually we'll figure out how to genetically replicate an organism and also figure out how to control biological phenomena like chromosome inactivation as well. Not there yet. And there are more complications that would turn this episode into some kind of doctoral
Starting point is 00:08:31 lecture given by a guy with outer degree in science, which probably nobody needs to hear. The examples above clearly illustrate that real life cloning is more complicated than sci-fi movies make it seem. So why have cats been cloned anyway? So some kind of cat shortage out there? No. No, actually I'm pretty sure cats are about as far as an animal can get from being endangered.
Starting point is 00:08:50 They seem to be thriving, and what I can tell. Can't remember hearing any PSAs begging people to stop Spain and neutering your cats anymore. Please stop listening to Bob Barker. The price of right is wrong. Did you know Bob Barker is only 62 years old, by the way? That doesn't sound right too, it's because it's not right. He's 97.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And he looks great for 97, which just means he's still alive. If you make it to 97, you automatically look great for 97. Anyway, why have cats been cloned? Mainly to learn more about the process of cloning so that maybe someday we can clone humans and also treat human ailments with some type of cloning. At the end of the day, scientific pursuits are almost always about us, aren't they? Even when we try and save endangered species, doesn't the motivation seem to be mainly
Starting point is 00:09:29 that future humans can also see these creatures? Most researchers in the cloning currently falls into two categories. They're a putic and reproductive cloning. Reproductive cloning is the one that really seems to scare people. For today's episode, we're gonna look into both of these cloned categories.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Then we'll look into how some celebrities have, you know, definitely dabbled in some odd DNA manipulation, like cloning their pets. Then we'll get into some theories about who may currently be a clone. No theories exist to my knowledge about Gary Busy being a clone, but maybe there should be maybe the clone, the old Garber. So many times in the copy started to get a little wonky, a little water down, just throwing that out there. Same for Corey Feldman, right? They cloned him right on out of Hollywood pretty much. Child actor, real Corey Feldman, OG Feldman, stand by me, lost boys, licensed to drive,
Starting point is 00:10:13 Gremlins, Gouni's fantastic acting by a real original person. Guy who's just kept making music, absolutely no one wants to hear for the last 25 years, clone. Chalk fucking full of DNA replication errors. Clone of a clone of a clone of a clone. That's why his music keeps getting worse. Check out his most recent track. ["Russian Tracks"]
Starting point is 00:10:32 ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] ["Russian Tracks"] Silent screens, Seas, Rock and Revolution. That was a little bit of rock and revolution. Cory released it earlier this year in January, and I wish I was kidding. He will not be stopped. He will also probably never start taking actual music lessons. After having a lot of fun with clone theories with celebrities, then we're going to get into a timeline
Starting point is 00:11:00 of major achievements in cloning. And along the way, we'll catch up with some celebrities and of course, the Illuminati, as well as a bunch of wackadoodle whistleblowers who claim to have some very interesting stories about their time spent in cloning facilities. Well basically one whistleblower Donald Marshall holy shit. That way for you to meet Donnie. But first let's learn about therapeutic cloning. Therapy to cloning as you may already know involves taking one super hot nurse and turning
Starting point is 00:11:24 her into a small army of lingerie wearing very horny hot nurses so you can heal while also living out of a variety of super fun sexual fantasies. Hail to Staphina! No, sadly no. A therapeutic cloning involves removing the nucleus of an egg cell, replacing it with the material from the nucleus of a somatic cell, such as a skin cell, and stimulating this cell to begin dividing. Important to note that this egg cell is never fertilized by sperm, such as the skin cell, and stimulating this cell to begin dividing. Important to note that this egg cell
Starting point is 00:11:46 is never fertilized by sperm, which changes the ethical considerations quite a bit, I think. This is not some type of clone human life on any level. This has nothing to do with an actual fetus, abortion, none of that, it's an egg cell. The kind flushed out women's periods every month manipulated without fertilization to produce stem cells, which can be extracted five to six days
Starting point is 00:12:04 after the egg cell has been altered. The stem cells, or the specialized cells derived from them, will be genetic matched to the patient. Therefore, the promise of SCNT, somatic cell nucleotransfer, is that the patient's body would accept these cells after transplantation. SCNT has nothing to do with sexual reproduction. The research technique to create cells that can be used to treat diseases such as Parkinson's disease, diabetes, ALS, etc. The sole purpose of this technology is to address currently unmet medical needs. The date there's no evidence that any actual human embryos have been produced for therapeutic
Starting point is 00:12:39 cloning. Or so they would have us believe. The rich source of embryonic stem cells is tissue formed during the first five days after the egg is started to divide. At this stage of development, called the blastocyst, the embryo consists of a cluster of about 100 cells that can become any cell type, stem cells are harvested from cloned embryos at this stage of development, resulting in destruction of the embryo while it is still in the test tube.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Researchers hope to use embryonic stem cells, which have the unique ability to generate virtually all types of cells in an organism to grow healthy tissues in the laboratory. They can be used to replace injured or disease tissues. There is tremendous medical potential with therapeutic cloning. I mean, the possibilities are fucking wild. Stem cells have the capacity to proliferate and to differentiate into relatively mature cells of various types and theory stem cells can be used to grow you a new heart, a new set of lungs, new liver, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:13:29 embryonic stem cells can become any organ in the body. Doesn't look like stem cells can cure cancer, but stem cell transplants are already being used to replace like bone marrow cells that have been destroyed by cancer or destroyed but the chemo and or radiation used to treat the cancer. Again, so much potential to create tissue, your body won't reject because it's been cloned to be your tissue, very excited, medically speaking. That is therapeutic cloning. And then there's the other far more controversial way more sci-fi movie kind. When people are talking about cloning celebrities,
Starting point is 00:14:00 they're talking about reproductive cloning. Reproductive cloning is the process of making a full living copy of an organism. And it has been done. Q. Evil Scientist music. Reproductive cloning of animal, you know, animals transplants nuclei from body cells into eggs that have had their nucleus removed. That egg is instimulated to divide using an electrical charge and is implanted into a uterus where it can gestate to full-term and ideally actually being born a clone. Or actually be born a clone.
Starting point is 00:14:28 A reproductive cloning has been a very inefficient technique thus far, if you believe dirty rotten scheming scientists. For a long time, many cloned animal embryos simply just could not develop into healthy individuals. Researchers kept observing a variety of adverse effects, and sheep and other animals and other mammals, try to say animal, that were reproductively cloned. These effects include an increase in birth size, a variety of defects in vital organs, such as the liver, brain, and heart. Other consequences include premature aging
Starting point is 00:14:54 and problems with the immune system. Then there was a problem of the relative age of the cloned cell's chromosomes. As cells go through their normal rounds of division, the tips of the chromosomes called telomeres, they shrink, and over time the telomeres can become so short that the cell can no longer divide and consequently the cell will die. I wonder how or Corey Feldman's telomeres doing right now.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Not good, I think. I think he's dealing with some serious, you know, fucking telomere damage, some fucked-up telomeres. I feel like they're on their last leg. Say the sleep. Leave. Get tight. Spread in Malaysia. Won't be a lot.
Starting point is 00:15:30 He sounds like me singing here on TimeSuck. Said I'm self-aware enough to know that it's not good. Thank God I have, you know, all my original telomeres. The telomere shrinkage is part of the natural aging process seems to happen in all cell types. With clones created from a cell taken from an adult, there was a thought for a while that they might start off with chromosomes that are already shorter than normal, right? They start with some old-ass chromosomes, which means that the clones cells would have
Starting point is 00:15:55 much shorter life spans. The copy would not be as crisp as the original. However, a new study actually says that cloning does not make for shorter life spans, so maybe shrinkage is not a problem. The research also knew. To detect subtle signs of aging in 13 sheep clones a few years ago, scientists conducted a battery test to check for symptoms of heart disease, type two diabetes,
Starting point is 00:16:14 osteoarthritis, and they found that everything was in the realm of normal. Similar evidence, just proving premature aging cloned animals previously found in mice and cows. So some of the fears people have of a cloning might not be legitimate or not legitimate. The study of sheep confirms that once cloned animals survive the first few years alive, they won't die any sooner than any other animals. So maybe there's hope for the copies after all. Maybe we need to look further than tell a mere shrinkage to find out what
Starting point is 00:16:36 the fuck is going on right here. So why clone? Why make clone sheep or any other animal? There are lots of potential benefits to cloning, for example, Scottish researchers of clone sheep that have been genetically modified to produce milk that contains a human protein essential for blood clotting. The hope is that someday this protein can be purified for the milk and given to humans whose blood doesn't clot properly to heal their blood. Another possible use of cloned animals is for testing new drugs and treatment strategies. The great advantage of using cloned animals
Starting point is 00:17:07 for drug testing is that since they are all genetically identical or very close to identical, their responses to the drugs should be uniform, rather than variable-is-seeing an animals with different genetic makeups. Clones make a damn near-perfect control group. Another application is to create clones to build populations of endangered,
Starting point is 00:17:24 possibly even extinct species or animals. If there are not enough animals left to mate back into a thriving community, clones could potentially save a species. In 2001, researchers produced the first clone of an endangered species, a type of Asian ox known as a guar, said that the baby guar, which had developed inside a circuit cow mother, died just a few days after birth. In 2003, another endangered type of ox called the bantake was successfully cloned. Soon after three African wild cats were cloned using frozen embryos as a source of DNA.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Although some experts think cloning can save many species that would otherwise disappear, others argue that cloning produces a population of genetically identical individuals that lack the genetic variability necessary for species survival. Too much imbreding. Bad for people, bad for animals. Other animals. individuals that lack the genetic variability necessary for species survival. Too much inbreeding.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Bad for people, bad for animals, other animals. Now let's talk about celebrity cloning. There's a variety of celebrity cloning theories all over the web. A lot of different opinions that all have celebrities in cloning and common. The reasons for cloning these celebrities range from them being, you know, willing illuminati agents to the more mundane concept of sunk costs. That is a celebrity's untimely death or otherwise inability to keep performing
Starting point is 00:18:29 is costing some powerful people a lot of money. People who invested, a lot of money in time in these celebrities, they wanna return on that investment so they replace them with a clone to keep making that money. Maybe I should clone myself a few times. Maybe I can make one clone that works only on scared of death. Another clone that works here on TimeZuck.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Another clone that does is we dumb. Tours will stand up. And then I, OGDC, get to hang out with a fam. Read books in the hammock. Get a lot of massages. Work on crafting the perfect cocktail. Send a lot of time in the hot tub. Have a ton of sex.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Maybe get really into fly fishing. Probably play a shit ton of call of duty. And if I know my clone starts slack and holy shit while I fucking beat my ass, I will punch me right in my fucking face if that's what it takes to get me motivated. So what has led many of these celebrity clone conspiracists into stumbling upon cloning truths? Mostly cultural celebrity obsession.
Starting point is 00:19:16 That's why we're here. We live in a society where people love, some people love to obsess over the lives of celebrities. A lot of people, think of the tablet to the checkout stand. Write at the grocery store, the pharmacy, think of the massive social media the lives of celebrities a lot of people think of the tabloid to the checkout stand Right at the grocery store the pharmacy think of the massive social media following of celebrities The reality shows that Delvin and their personal lives the stalkers who get arrested for convincing themselves They know these celebrities are destined to be with them It's not enough for many just to enjoy someone's music or appreciate their work as an actress You know find them attractive as a model etc
Starting point is 00:19:42 They want to know what they eat for fucking breakfast who who they're dating, how the relationship's going, how what they're going along with their parents. They want leaked sex tapes. They want to know what they look like naked, what the, what sounds they make when they fuck. They want to know everything. A lot of people pay super close attention to their favorite celebrities. And some of these people are fucking crazy. And then when suddenly the celebrity doesn't look or behave like the person who thought they, you know, who knew the person who thought they knew them so well, things they should, you know, look or behave like the person who thought they knew the person who thought they knew them so well thinks they should look or behave. They get really suspicious.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Instead of blaming the change or changes on natural aging, natural personality evolution over time, you know, cosmic surgery, you know, people's opinions, interest behavior do not remain fixed and unchanging from birth to death. That would be insane if they didn't. These theorists point to a very different reason for all these changes They have obviously been cloned. It's not the same person anymore. That's not the person. I know that's the Megan Fox I know that's her clone Right nice try illuminati. Yeah, sneaking that shit past all evil eye
Starting point is 00:20:37 No rational person believes these clone theories because scientists have not cloned cloned a human being yet though. Let's draw line Or unless a small row group of scientists has gotten way more advanced than all the other scientists and are not telling anyone. It would be so difficult to produce a viable human clone, especially when magically the same as the original. Magically the same age. It's also ethical concerns about cloning humans. Like what does it mean to be human?
Starting point is 00:21:00 What would be the legal status of a human created by cloning? I would think it would be the same as anyone else. I mean, we certainly give full legal rights to babies conceived by IVF. Pretty weird if we didn't. Back in the cage, test tube. No one wants your soul as artificial ass running a muck doing God knows what since you're an abomination. But some people who confuse real life with sci-fi movies like the island think that clones would not be legally protected. Maybe some group of second-class citizens, the ruling elite would sexually abuse torture and organ harvest, organ harvest, excuse me, all willy-nilly.
Starting point is 00:21:28 And that's a pretty irrational concern. Some people think this is already happening. Again, can't wait for you to meet Donnie Marshall. Other people think that the ethical issues surrounded by cloning are overhyped and just nonsensical. A British evolutionary biologist, author, noted critic of religion, Richard Dawkins has been quoted as saying, anybody who objects to cloning on principle has to answer to all the identical twins in the world who might be insulted by the thought that there is something offensive
Starting point is 00:21:52 about their very existence. Clones are simply identical twins. In a sense, he is not wrong. At the same time, a clone is absolutely not an ordinary human. Unlike an embryo, a cloned organism is not the result of fertilization of an egg by sperm. It is a new type of fertilization of an egg by sperm. It is a new type of biological entity never before seen in nature. Identical twins have two parents. That's a huge part of why the very concept of cloning just
Starting point is 00:22:14 freaks a lot of people to fuck out. The nature of cloning humans conflicts with long standing religious beliefs, particularly Abrahamic religious beliefs regarding human creation. If a new human is essentially made by man and not by God, what does that mean in regards to the concept of its soul? Did a creator God give humans intellectual ability that God knew would lead human kind to creating clones? And thus the clone is in this way, created by God and still has a soul,
Starting point is 00:22:37 or is the clone some new, soulless creation of science, and thus by its very nature, not of God, which many will interpret as by default, then being of the devil. Right? It gets people worked up. Cloning also poses a new dilemma in regards to and societal values placed on human life.
Starting point is 00:22:53 And there are concerns about possibly infringing upon principles of individual freedom, identity, and autonomy. What if something went wrong with the clone? What if the research needed to be disposed of? Is that ethical? Would terminating a faulty clone fetus pose the same ethical dilemma as an abortion? Would terminating an adult clone be the same as murder? Also many who believe that human life begins a conception regard activated eggs as morally equivalent to fertilized human embryos. And they cannot ethically approve of therapeutic cloning research
Starting point is 00:23:18 because to them, regardless of the lack of fertilization, regardless of the egg literally not having a heartbeat or brain at all, harvesting the egg for stem cells is murder. I don't see how they get there exactly, but that's what they believe. There are also those who question, you know, if whether or not it's morally right to see human eggs for scientific research. Each of her monthly cycles, a woman usually produces, you know, one or two mature eggs. To increase that, to a number that can be used in research, you must be given stimulatory medication such as the medication used in reproductive IVF procedures, in rare cases these drugs can provoke hyper stimulation syndrome that can
Starting point is 00:23:53 lead to liver damage, kidney failure, or stroke. The surgery to retrieve the eggs also carries risks such as dangers of general anesthesia, bleeding, is it ethical to subject a woman to these risks for research purposes? What about the person who sells are being cloned? Would they have the right at any point to ask if their cells no longer be replicated? What ownership would they have if any in their genetic lineage? Is it okay to murder Cory Felbon and replace him with a slightly inferior clone over and over at least a thousand times. It is not we got the normal thoughts and everything is. So many fucking questions. What is going on in that song? What's not a question though, is it to date again that we know of despite the wild theories
Starting point is 00:24:35 and claims we'll cover soon, there have been no clones made of humans. Made of humans. From a technical perspective, while possible, truly cloning humans and other primates is a lot more difficult than in other mammals. And we'll talk later, primate has been cloned. One reason is that two proteins essential to cell division, known as spindle proteins, are located very close to the chromosomes and primate eggs. It's a lot harder. You know, because consequently, when attempting removal of the eggs, nucleus to make room for the donor nucleus, very difficult to not also remove the spindle proteins, interfering with cell division.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And other mammals like cats, rabbits, mice, the two spindle proteins are spread throughout the egg. So removal of the egg's nucleus does not result in a loss of spindle proteins. Fucking spindle proteins. If I said it once, I said it a thousand times, spindle proteins, two spindly. In addition, some dyes and ultraviolet light used to remove the egg's nucleus can damage the more sensitive primate cells and prevent them from growing. We're very complex and in some ways very fragile mammals.
Starting point is 00:25:29 We're like a new fully loaded car with all the bells and whistles, power everything. So many buttons, big touchscreen, so many submenus, so many options to make driving a better, and more customizable experience, but also a lot more shit that can go wrong with higher mammals. Like primates. Now putting all these science, mumbo jumbo about how it's not possible aside, let's really not get into celebrity cloning. There actually is a real legitimate link
Starting point is 00:25:52 between celebrities, specifically very wealthy celebrities, and cloning that is well established. Some celebrities have for sure dabbled in cloning. They just haven't cloned themselves that we know of. Let's talk about babs. Barbra Streisand made some headlines for years and got once you dabbled in cloning. talk about Babs, Barbara Streisand, made some headlines for years, you got one she dabbled in cloning.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Do you know that Barbara Streisand is one of the highest-selling female recording artists of all time? Roughly 150 million albums sold. She's had 11 albums hit number one on the Billboard chart, 11. I always forget how truly successful she is. One of the most commercially successful recording artists
Starting point is 00:26:24 in the history of recorded music. She's had albums go platinum in the US in 6 fucking decades, in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and the first two decades of this century. Not to mention platinum albums in so many other countries during that time frame. Babs truly is a boss bitch. She's also won a ton of awards and acclaimed for her acting work in film, television, and theater. She made her major debut in the Broadway show. I can get it for you wholesale in 1962 won the New York drama critics award receive a Tony nomination. She's won two Academy Awards and well, you get it. I can go on and on her resume of major achievements reads like a damn novel. And in 2018, Streisand raised a lot of eyebrows with the announcement that she had her beloved dog, Samantha Cloned, following the pooch's demise the previous year, and now was enjoying
Starting point is 00:27:09 the company of two new clone puppies. And then she made headlines again and raised a lot more eyebrows when one of those puppies basically disintegrated in Central Park. Her dog walker was taken misviolet and missed Scarlet then then six months old, for a walk when a miscarlet started to shake, then violently shake, then essentially there's no video, I guess she kind of melted. I don't know how else to say it. Her muscles and bones separated at the cellular level, turned into some kind of sludge, and not to be a dick, basically turned into kind of like a puppy puddle.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And then she slid into the sewer gate, and legend has it reformed bigger, faster, stronger than before with the ability to talk like an English walk up right. You joined the band of teenage mutant individuals trained by a talking rat. Now she fights crime. It's a bunch of pizza or something. I don't have all the details. No one's still on board with that nonsense. Are they?
Starting point is 00:28:00 Now that all the shaking and disintegrating didn't happen. Back to reality before her original, cotande tuliar died in 2017. That's a real dog breed. Sounds like something on a French menu to me. Cells were taken from the dog's mouth and stomach. Babs made the decision to do this after she was apparently very impressed with another friend's clone dog. And then the new dogs, the clone dogs, Miss Violet and Miss Scarlet have different personalities. Miss Strysand told variety or Miss Strysanne.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Uh, I'm waiting for them to get older so I can see if they have her brown eyes and her seriousness. I don't know why this thing said it called her Miss. I thought it'll be Misses because she's married to James Brolin. At least I thought she was. Uh, the news not surprisingly drew the disapproval of animal rights group PETA in a statement to page six on Tuesday. When this came out in 2017, this article referred to PET president, Ingrid New Kirk said, we all want our beloved dogs to live forever. But while it may sound like a good idea, cloning doesn't achieve that. Instead it creates a new and different dog who has only the physical characteristics of
Starting point is 00:28:58 the original. Animals personalities, quirks, the very essence of them simply cannot be replicated. And when you consider that millions of wonderful adoptable dogs are languishing in animal shelters every year, you're dying in terrifying ways. When the banded, you realize that cloning adds to the homeless animal population crisis. Because cloning has a high failure rate. Many dogs are caged and tormented for every birth that actually occurs. So that's not fair to them.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Despite the best intentions, we fill Barbara's grief at losing her beloved dog, but would also love to have talked to her out of cloning. Kind of a bummer that real clones are actually not carbon copies of the original, right? That is the sci-fi shit. Hiccups and continual DNA replication changes things. Also, the same genes can express themselves differently as demonstrated via the genotype phenotype distinction. Going back again to twins, identical twins share the same genotypes since her genomes are identical, or genomes, I can't, I'll say it again, genomes are, but they never have the same phenotype. The organisms, actual observed properties such as morphology development, behavior, although their phenotypes may be very similar. This is why close relations can tell identical twins
Starting point is 00:30:02 apart, even though others might not be able to see subtle differences. Identical twins also never have the same fingerprints, which I find interesting, ever, so they're not actually fully physically identical. You cannot, as far as we know, currently at least exactly replicate something. If you don't care what Peter thinks about cloning and you still want to clone your dog,
Starting point is 00:30:21 I do have some good news. You don't have to be famous to get it done. You just have to have $50,000. We bit more than the going rate for getting a dog from a shelter or a breeder. Let's see how they arrive at this number. South Korean researchers announced that they had cloned a dog for the first time in 2005. After almost three years of work, more than a thousand eggs, with help from a yellow Labrador retriever who served as the surrogate mother, a cloned male Afghan hound named Snuppie was born. Snuppie stood for sole national university puppy.
Starting point is 00:30:49 And he creates Snuppie. It took more than 100 borrowed wombs in more than 1,000 embryos. That's what Peter was talking about. Yikes, a lot of Snuppie puppy fuckups before they got Snuppie. A lot of mutants and miscarriages. Unsurprisingly, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:02 and this, this true criticism from animal rights circles. Ethicist and dog expert Jessica Pierce said, surrogate cloned pet mothers are a little bit like the handmaids tale. It's a canine version of reproductive machines. Yee, too late for my little ding dong doodles to become little canine handmaids, it's both been spayed. No under as I, Penny Pooper, may the Lord open Gigi.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Blessed be the fruit, you two little fluffy weasels by 2008, despite outcry from variety of academics, animal rights activists, and just random, concerned citizens. A California company partnered with a South Korean lab and made plans to auction off chances to clone five dogs. Later that year, the New York Times reported that the first three puppies from the group have been born in South Korea. Two 2015 reports from business insider and NPR detailed the work of SOMBIOTEK, a lab in South Korea, and said the lab on its own had cloned more than 600 dogs by 2015. SOMBIOTEK was charging about 100,000 to attempt this process, and some free market competition drove the price down.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Via GenPets, a company based in Texas started charging 50,000 for cloning your dog or 1600 to merely preserve your pet's genes. It's time to take the plunge with Viagen, the process costs 35,000 for a cat, 50 for a dog, thousand, you know, 85,000 for a horse. A representative of a Viagen pet said, the first most crucial step is storing the DNA of your pet via our genetic preservation service. A veterinarian will take a four millimeter skin biopsy from the belly area of your pet. The procedure is very similar to having a mole removed on a human body. We cultured the skin samples resulting in living cells, all of which contain 100% of the DNA of
Starting point is 00:32:35 your pet, and they can be frozen indefinitely. Reports and information on Viagen's website suggest the cloning process generally takes about 60 days. Bygones president Blake Russell owns a stallion cloned from the DNA of a race horse champion. Is the clone stand stallion winning any races does not seem to be. Taylor fifth the original one 20 of his 40 career races finished second 11 times. Third once retired with a 1.3 million in career earnings. Pure Taylor fifth the clone is not one shit. Clones again not exact replicas. In addition to Babs, fashion designer Diane Vaughn first in
Starting point is 00:33:09 Berg and her husband Barry Diller, like how different their names are. Diane Vaughn, Thurston Berg, sounds very fancier. Barry Diller does not. They paid $100,000 to have their Jack Russell Terry or Shannon clone in 2016. A Korean company clone, Shannon CNA and two new puppy clones were created, Dina and Aveda clone docs. Simon Cowell, the British TV personality, right? Long time host to American Idol America's got talent, dude who often comes across in my opinion, like a world class prick, maybe the next wealthy celebrity to clone their dog.
Starting point is 00:33:41 He confirmed a few years ago that he's interested in cloning his Yorkshire Terriers, squittily, dittily, and Freddie. Speaking in 2018 to the Sun in the UK, Kyle said, I'm 100% cloning the dogs, all of them. We've thoroughly looked into it, got all the details, and I can prove to you I'm going to clone them. There is documentation. It seems like a fucking dick and print, right?
Starting point is 00:34:01 It's the way he talks. Yes, we're cloning our dogs, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. Is there? You can stop me. Try it. Try and fucking stop me. Clown, I have you arrested.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I have you killed. I'll have you cloned. Just like until you again, you fucking twat. Don't fuck with me. Next interview, please. Another way celebrities to publicize cloning has been a talk of who owns their DNA. Did you know that it could be possible to copyright your DNA? It's not, but people have been trying.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Some wealthy lunatic in theory could get some celebrities DNA from grabbing a piece of the gum. They chewed up and spit in the trash or from shaking their hand and then they could have a clone mate. And then I guess wait 20 or so years for the clone to grow up and hope it acts kind of like the original. It looks almost exactly like, seems like a lot of fucking work, but not much payoff. The hypothetical, it's in people worried and in 2005, a California company started offering
Starting point is 00:34:48 celebrities the chance to copyright their DNA to prevent unwanted duplication. Andre Crump, president of the DNA Copyright Institute of San Francisco said, a lot of people are going to want to clone people they admire. Yeah, so that's why they did this. For high profile individuals, worried they might fall victim, DCI began offering to record their DNA fingerprint, checked that it is unique, store it, and register the pattern with a US copyright office for $1,500. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I'm going to say right now, if you want to clone me, go ahead. Good luck raising young me. At least a 50% chance that clone me ends up in prison. Uh, but then this company went out of business because unfortunately DNA cannot be operated. This is nonsense. It's Stephen Barnett, the University of California, Berkeley. Okay. Now, let's look specifically at claims of certain celebs being cloned.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Now we're getting out of the science into the whack of it all frankly, the fun stuff. One of the biggest clone stories of late revolves around punk pop singer Avril Lavigne. Avril Lavigne, the real Avril OG Avril, born on September 27th, 1984 in Bellevue, Ontario. I've been candidacy of around 50,000 on the banks of Lake Ontario, about 200 kilometers from Toronto. She started singing while still in elementary school by the age of 15 already had appeared on stage with Chennai Twain by 16. She'd signed a two-album recording contract with the risk of records worth more than two million dollars. She got real famous, real fast, and then she died young according to conspiracies.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Some people think that Avril was replaced by a body double. Other things used to replace by a true clone. Went through claims that Levine fed up with being a celebrity hired a body double to represent her at public events and no one noticed. Others say she died and don't know and some illuminati types to keep the money coming and quickly had a clone put, you know, cooked up in the fucking clone laboratory and the clone just took over her career seamlessly. Both theories believe the singer died at some point between the release of 2002's Let
Starting point is 00:36:39 Go and 2004's Under My Skin. The double or clone is named Melissa, and she continues to pretend to be Avril Lavigne full time to this day. How insulting to Avril? To insinuate that her style is so easily duplicated that a double or clone can just fucking casually slide in and just tour as her singer songs in most fans will notice. Uh, but it's true, I got a hand at the clone. Melissa is doing a great job. While Under My Skin didn't duplicate the sales of Let Go, which sold over 16 million albums worldwide,
Starting point is 00:37:08 it did sell over 10 million, and the next album sold over 7 million, so if I can great job clone, as we'll see what other so-called clones are gap between projects. Just two years between the release of an album, in this case, can lead to a lot of people speculating, you know, about what's really going on.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Because those people don't understand how life works. Two years is nothing when it comes to the time between releasing albums. When it comes to major label releases, artists oftentimes end up recording way more songs than they need to for the album for starters. Then the record company weighs in on what songs they think are going to be good enough for them to sink a lot of promotional money and expensive studio time into. Then once the song is recorded, if the label likes enough of them, they're mixed and master which can take a while because, you know, you're not just having fucking Jerry Pro tools
Starting point is 00:37:51 down the street, do it because he's available. You're gonna, you're using the best, the best, you're usually pretty damn busy, so you get a weight. Then the label has to put together a marketing strategy. They strategize over a release date to make sure the label is competing with itself, launching too many of its own projects at the same time. Back in the 2002, 2004-ish era was all about FM radio play. And there weren't, there were only so many slots for any given genre at any given time,
Starting point is 00:38:13 right? Don't want to release the lead single for Avril, the same week to write how Chili Peppers are Queen to the Stone Age, or at Lennace More Set, etc., also releasing singles. Also don't want to release your second album too close to the first album and cannibalize your own sales. Also, sometimes, oftentimes, label has more artists on the roster than they can properly service, because they're cutting corners with employee costs, shickets to lay due to good old human corporate mistakes. That's why it fucking takes a bit to release a new album. Not to mention Ryder's block or an artist just not feeling like kicking
Starting point is 00:38:42 out more songs real fast, because now they're hanging out on a yacht in the mid a yacht in the Mediterranean or something and join being young and cool and filthy fucking rich. Or it's because the Illuminati needs time to build a clone and a clone lab or or that. Rumors of Avril Dyn and being cloned go back to 2005 are believed to have originated on a Brazilian fan website and unfortunately for Levine these rumors have never gone away. Avril herself or clone Avril Melissa, of course, denies this theory. Speaking to Entertainment Weekly several years ago, she said, it's just a dumb internet rumor. And I'm flabbergasted that people bought into it. It's not so weird. It's so dumb. And I looked the exact same.
Starting point is 00:39:18 On one hand, everyone is like, oh my god, you look the same. And on the other hand, people are like, oh my god, she died. It's her credit. She really does look the same. And on the other hand, people like, oh my God, she died. To her credit, she really does look the same. Like, it's impressive. She's 36 now. And she got famous as a teenager. And teenage her and now her, look pretty damn close, so identical.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I look nothing like teen me. I feel like she is for sure taking better care of herself, eating more salads and drink less, you know, fucking whipple or something that I have. Or alcohol. Now let's talk about Miley Cyrus and Roy Mother fucking Disney. Walt's evil, murderous brother. He's probably been cloned and his monstrous undead copy, his soldest copy runs Disney now from the shadows. And he definitely had Miley Cyrus killed. Back in 2010, some actually do think Disney, the company, not Roy, had Miley Cyrus killed and dumped her remains in the California desert.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Two possible explanations for this. One theory states that in the months before her accident, Miley leaked nudes smoked, Salvia and wrote in a song that she was quote, hot, eagad, to save its brand. It's wholesome image. Disney was left with one option to murder her. That theory doesn't seem very believable. Since Miley got way more controversial after 2010,
Starting point is 00:40:34 released more nudes, way more sexual songs, performances. I mean, she got pretty wild. During the 2013 MTV Video Music Awards, when she grinded on Robin Thick, and seemed to try and set the record for most pelvic thrust in one award show It doesn't seem like Disney accomplished her mission there The other Miley clone theory ledges the Cyrus refused the exact the sexual advances of various Disney execs Also refused the advances of her father not sure why he's thrown in there. Yes, Billy Ray in on it
Starting point is 00:41:02 She turned down dad gave an achy, breaky heart. So he had her killed and her body dumped in the desert and then cloned to realize that Miley intended to remain steadfast in her decision, not to partake and incestuous, satanic blood orgy's, a Disney higher up beater left her for dead, brought into clone. When did these clone theories start? Many trace celebrity clone theories back to Paul McCartney. Some conspiracy loving Beatles fans believe that McCartney died in 1966. And everything that's happened since then
Starting point is 00:41:32 is a courtesy of a look alike and sounded alike. Either a body double or, of course, a clone. Paul apparently died. Don't tell him this on November 9, 1966. He drove away from Abbey Road late the night before a stupid bloody Tuesday. Then blew his brains out in the car for reasons never actually made clear. It was officially pronounced dead. OPD on Wednesday morning, five o'clock, which is why George points to that line in the Sargent Pepper sleeve, where Paul wears an OPD patch, except he doesn't actually wear a patch.
Starting point is 00:42:05 He wears an OPP patch, but whack jobs tend to ignore details in facts like this. An OPP stands for Ontario Provincial Police. In this case, it comes from the real Sergeant Pepper, Sergeant Randall Pepper, who ran security detail for the band in Toronto in 1966, but fuck facts. In this theory, the other Beatles decided to hush up the news, so they kept Paul's death the secret, replaced him with a lookalike, then weirdly dropped hints about the cover-up scam and their music, just for funsies.
Starting point is 00:42:30 They went through a lot of trouble to cover up his death and then started immediately leaving breadcrumbs that would lead to discovering he died, which doesn't add up. This conspiracy was started by Detroit DJ. Blue up on October 12, 1969 when Russ G Gib was hosting a show on WKNR. A mysterious caller told him to put on the Beatles wide album. Spend the number nine, number nine intro from Revolution 9 backwards when Gib tried it on air. He heard the words, turn me on, dead man.
Starting point is 00:42:56 And in this case, I got to say it does sound like that. Listen to this track forwards and then backwards here. Number nine. Number nine. Number nine. Number nine. Number nine. And then, and then,
Starting point is 00:43:09 and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then,
Starting point is 00:43:17 and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then more clues keep coming at the end of strawberry fields forever john maybe says
Starting point is 00:43:25 i buried paul to this on loop now is that what he says letting claims he was saying cranberry sauce the Beatles press officer claims he was saying i'm very bored and conspiracy theorist you know i thought he was saying i buried paul i hear i'm very bored. And conspiracy theorist, you know, I thought he was saying, I'm very bored. I hear I'm very bored. Uh, if you listen again. It's hard to hear the end with the music. Then in London's day in the life lyrics,
Starting point is 00:43:57 Paul is dead, missing, missing, are said to be heard only when the song is played backward. I don't hear it. Uh, even if this was all engineered into the album, it could have been just to fuck with people, right? Sometimes people forget that people will do pranks and troll others because they fall for this shit. Fans also begin whispering about all the clues
Starting point is 00:44:15 on the just released Abby Road, the jacket, the cover showed Paul Barefoot out of step with the others holding his cigarette in his right hand. What the fuck, he's a lefty! He plays most instruments with his left hand. I think these people just don't understand that photographers kind of like mess with you unlike press shoots.
Starting point is 00:44:31 And they might have just liked the way the cigarette looked in his left hand for symmetrical reasons better than the cigarette looked in his right hand or you know vice versa. And then there's the Volkswagen with the 28 IF license plate. That's how old Paul would have been if he were still alive, say, conspiracists, which is wrong. It'd have been 27, you know, when Abby Road came out. But again,
Starting point is 00:44:49 who cares about facts? When you're connecting so many dots in your basement, then the song I and the Walrus ends with the live BBC broadcast of a fatal scene from Shakespeare's King Lear, with the character Oswald groaning, oh, untimely death, clearly a nod to Paul's demise or John Lennon taped it on the radio one night and thought it sounded fucking cool. He's doing a lot of drugs at that time and he liked how it fit into the song. Uh, when he's apparently dying in the car crash, Paul claims he was actually in seclusion on his Scottish farm with his wife Linda and their six week old daughter Mary, convenient, convenient, nice alibi.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Uh, life magazine sent reporters out to stock McCartney on his farm around that time he supposedly died. They didn't notice it was a clone. Actually after Paul threw a bucket of water on him, then he agreed to an interview and had took photos with him to make him go away. That's when you know you're really famous. When reporters still want to do an interview with you after you fucking teach him a lesson by throwing a bucket of water on him.
Starting point is 00:45:40 1974 Paul had some phone with his debts conspiracy telling Rolling Stone, someone from the office rang me up and said, look Paul, you're dead. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. Pawmacarony seems to have a great sense of humor in a variety of, you know, non-clone interviews. Again, like with Avril, if he was cloned, uh, the clone has been killing it. That clone right the fuck, help right the white album. That clone released and saying, let it be, hey, Jude, band on the run with wings. Maybe I'm amazed as a solo artist and so many others, that clone is fucking legit talented. Another supposed clone, arguably the hottest clone I'll talk about here today is Megan Fox actress, off name, sexist woman alive in the mid 2000s, 2010s, hot ass clone,
Starting point is 00:46:30 Haleus, Athena. According to posts, I want conspiracy forum Fox has been replaced several times with clones created by the government. These clones are referred to by forum users as Fagan, not Megan. Oh, I see you, Fagan. Now, trigger me. One user, the mask commented, I see, Fagan, not Trigger Me. One user of the mask commented, I'd say she was replaced. The look, quote unquote, seems to change right around the movie Transformers 2007. She was replaced right before that in 2006, perhaps that summer. The show Hopen Faced 2004 through 2006 has just been canceled. Filming for Transformers would have to start soon because it was released in July 2007.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Transformers is known as their breakout role, which is the same time period. Her look changed. She began dating Brian Austin Green in November of 2006. The timing fits perfectly. It's perfect, you guys. Everyone knows that Brian Austin Green is a clone fucker. Common knowledge. He only wants that sweet clone plus. The piece is fit. File it in the facts drawer. Every time Megan looks different, which could easily be explained again by the normal agent process or the fight against it, it's a new clone, say theorists. Then there is perhaps the most famous clone of all and actually arguably also the hottest one, Beyonce.
Starting point is 00:47:37 The one my wife, Lindsay, wants to be reincarnated as. She's a bit obsessed with Beyonce. Beyonce, every ghost missing, I want Lindsay looked into as a suspect. According to a slew of very, very reliable sources, Beyonce's career was going so swimmingly in the arts that the singer's team of producers decided better make a fucking clone, right?
Starting point is 00:47:53 Or at least extract some of her stem cells, store them in case something happens to her and they need to make a clone. Gotta make sure Queen Bay or Clone Bay is sticking around. For a few years, the music industry's clone of pop star projects sat in a mini fridge in a record exec's glass roomed office. And then disaster struck.
Starting point is 00:48:09 2010 Beyoncé died. How? I don't know, somehow. They never make that clear. Maybe it was a really bad case of gas and her stomach exploded. Maybe she slept on some caviar, fell off a yacht, hit her head on a paddle board, made a diamonds.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I don't know. After her death, the Beyoncé clone seamlessly entered the world, strutting into her role. No one was the wiser for a few months. To the untrained eye, the clone replicated Beyonce so well that it was impossible to notice the difference between her and real Beyonce. But then some very, very smart people online noticed that the clone started to malfunction. She would not quite dance perfectly at every single show and stuff during the summer of 2011 she announced her pregnancy a pregnancy genius theorist think is fake or was fake and led to more malfunctioning She kept getting dates wrong and one interview
Starting point is 00:48:55 She announced that her baby was doing in February but in a different interview. She claimed January no way an original human would ever misspeak or Remember a date incorrectly. Uh-uh, especially a date that can fluctuate a little bit as you begin your pregnancy. That's literally never happened ever with a non-clone theory said that her pregnant belly looked fake, not quite the right shape. The cloners couldn't pull the wool over everyone's third eyes and more evidence of malfunction presented itself
Starting point is 00:49:25 during her Super Bowl halftime show in 2016, when she almost, but not really fell over. Hello! Would the real Beyonce almost, but not quite a phone over for a second? No chance, zero percent chance. She would have never made a mistake. She was literally perfect.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Everyone knows that real people never, ever slip up. Two more big ones before the timeline. Brittany and Marshall Mathers. Start with Brittany. Another for sure clone. Britney Spears, singer, songwriter, dancer, actress, clone. Britney's credited with influencing the revival of Teen Popter in the late 90s or the 2000s. That's why I should became referred to as the Princess of Pop or her clone was referred to as the Princess of Pop. I don't know if you remember this. Back in 1998, right before dropping the now classic rock opera, baby one more time. Brittany and Justin Timberlake got into a nasty car accident. The resultant severe burns for
Starting point is 00:50:14 Justin and Brittany being decapitated. I had completely forgot about Brittany getting her head chopped off back in 1998. And that for sure happened. If it didn't happen, it wouldn't have been reported on the now defunct website, Britney is dead.com. On this site written back in 2011, our beloved pop tart Britney Spears has been dead for about five years now. Mm hmm. And maybe actually this, let's see, dead for about five years now. So I think I might have had the dates wrong. It was, yeah, we pulled it from an archive of 2011, but this must have been written in 2003 so you know weird that Wait five years okay, sorry picking up again and a massive conspiracy on behalf of the music industry has kept this fact from her ever-dimension
Starting point is 00:50:58 Legion of fans for just as long Hmm throw in some shade of Britney there sure her album sales, you know We're dropping at that time, but she was also raising two kids. We're now five and six. She's been through two divorces. Easy. Brittany is dead. She's dealing with a lot right now. The other continues, I've uncovered the truth.
Starting point is 00:51:15 The one we've been calling Brittany, maybe not a girl and not yet a woman. She is an imposter. And I have the evidence to prove it. Brittany had just wrapped up her first album, Baby One More Time, and it recently completed filming the video for the title track, the record label, knew they had a major hit on their hands. Brittany had also just begun a relationship
Starting point is 00:51:33 with in-sync vocalist Justin Timberlake. And they promised to be the hottest couple on the music scene, but then only two days after the filming of Baby One More Time, Brittany only 16, not yet licensed to drive borrowed her mother's car to go joy riding with just in the past to receive Britney lost control the car. Britney was to capitate in the accident. Justin was severely burned, received massive head injuries and has since been in a coma, not expected to recover. What was Justin cloned to? I mean, his career was going great in 2011 when this when this was written. I'm sorry, 2003.
Starting point is 00:52:05 And then, but he died. I guess back in 1998 when he was just 17. Huh. If so, his clone, you know, also fucking killing it. I mean, Jesus Christ, you know, if he did die after that coma, he did very well in the social network, a bad teacher with Cameron Diaz, a couple of smash hits. Both of those movies grossed over $200 million of the box office. He was often forgotten friends with benefits
Starting point is 00:52:29 with Meal of Kunis, $150 million box office hall, making all kind of funny great songs with Lonely Island crew, more hits. God, very talented clone. The Britney's dead author continues Britney's sudden death left her label with two options. One, shelves the album and video, problem. They'd already invested a lot of time and money in Britney's career death left her label with two options. One, shelve the album and video problem. They'd already invested a lot of time and money in Britney's career, which is a huge loss
Starting point is 00:52:48 if they didn't release the material. Two, release them as being the final work of a once promising, but now dead teenage singer, problem. It's a known fact that teenagers in the late 90s did not listen to dead people. Just look at how poorly Jenis Joplin and Jim Kroese did in the teenage market. I love this. Yes, Jenis Joplin and Jim Kroese did in the teenage market? Love this. Yes, Janice Joplin and Jim Kroese did not do well in the teenage market in 2011. Of course not.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Janice Joplin died over 40 years earlier in 1970. Jim Kroese died 38 years earlier in 1973. And it was not a sexy pop star in incredibly popular routines when it was alive. Not exactly a Britney Spears type artist. It was Janice Joplin. Nirvana on the other hand, still pretty popular with the teens, 2011. You know, 17 years after Kurt Cobain died. Very popular in 2003.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Sorry, I kept referring to 2011 there. It's archived, but then I was like, oh yeah, shit, that's not the right date. As I'm reading it again for the fifth time, I'm like, oh, he references five years. Anyway, the other can, again, continues regarding either shelving Britney's final album or releasing it as the last album of an out dead pop star.
Starting point is 00:53:46 They write, let's face it, neither option was acceptable. So one of the geniuses of the record label came up with a better idea, replace Brittany and continue her career. The heads of the label immediately headed to the nearest shopping mall, found quite a few girls who resembled Brittany. They settled on a girl named Brittany Shears,
Starting point is 00:54:01 whose uncle Billy Shears had replaced Paul McCartney after his death in 1966, but there were two problems. Brittany Shears had a noticeably larger chest than Brittany Spears. So the record label handled this by starting a rumor that Brittany got a boob job. Also, Brittany Shears had no discernible talent, but so far no one's really noticed.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I, ee, ee. So more shade there. Of course, another problem concerned Justin Timberlake. How does a comatose singer remain in a really hot band? But it was easily solvable. Justin had been replaced at various times with members of the Backstreet Boys, 98 degrees, LFO and O-town. No one noticed the difference.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Since they all look alike and sound alike, in fact, most of the popular boy bands comprised of only about 12 different core individuals. And then, and then this is when this story is about Brittany, beginning to diverse. Brittany is dead.com claims labels producer one of them all, you know, found it a young look like. They've been in British years.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Other websites claim to label trotted on a Brittany clone or clones. Over the years, plenty of Brittany clones have apparently come out, come and gone. They say explains the many emotional ups and downs of Brittany. The Brittany copies, not always happy with their lot in life. In 2009, break the ice. One of the clones managed to sneak in some hints
Starting point is 00:55:03 at the reality of her situation. This included in a company animated video that depicts her blowing up an actual cloning center. Crazy, the Illuminati allowed that to be filmed. And sometimes the first performance by alleged clone Brittany Sheer's, Brittany is wearing white, watching a young man from afar, fantasized about doing some choreographed dance moves with him, according to clone theorists, clearly a reference to Brittany being in the afterlife, watching over her bow, Justin. Huh huh and Lucky Brittany plays two roles. The first is kind of a
Starting point is 00:55:30 supernatural beam visible only to the viewer the second and unhappy pop star who the supernatural beam watches over. Obviously this is a reference to their being two Britonies real Brittany and clone Brittany at the bottom of Brittany is dead.com the writer actually says please know this site is intended as a joke the best of my knowledge Brittany Justin are alive and well britney the bottom of britney is dead dot com the writer actually says uh... please know this site is intended to joke the best of my knowledge britain just in her life and well but then the damage had been done clone happy wacky deals just didn't care that the end the guy was like i was a lot of the i was for i was kidding
Starting point is 00:55:54 they're like no uh... probably had to say that to be you know not not murdered by luminities to just obviously the rest of it was true one final illuminati clone, Marshall Mathers. In 2011, M&M revealed he had riders block for four years, which is bullshit. Clone truthers, say this is a cover for the gap between 2004's encore 2009's relapse. They say that when Slim Shady reached worldwide phenom status in the late 90s, the illuminati approached him as they do with all up and coming superstars. See how willing he would be to join their gang of ultra powerful miscreants and shady foolishly declined.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Not sure how that went down. Yeah. Hey Marshall, we're the Illuminati. Do you want to sacrifice kids to Satan and fuck clones and their poop hole loopholes and hunt poor people for sport? No. Well, I guess we'll have to kill you and clone you then. See you around. After saying no, I guess we'll have to kill you and clone you then. See you around.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Well, after saying, no, thank you, Illuminati. Marshall died in a not accidental fatal car crash in 2005. And then, you know, that's when he went to rehab. Wink, wink, as in clone rehab. The new M&M was very different, as a conspiracy post. And those who are and were his true fans, likely didn't buy this switch at all. Many brainwashed people, not able to conceive of what reality is really like, believed the lie and followed after their hero in his new mentality.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Ha ha. Yeah, you don't think Shade is a clown. Of course, you don't. You're too stupid to see the truth. They continue. This brings up further questions, of course. Like can the clone, like can they clone humans? And are they cloning people?
Starting point is 00:57:23 This too doesn't take too much research to realize. Of course they can and they do clone humans. They can clone them from birth. They can make synthetic clones in a matter of months, months you guys, months. So hard for some people to accept, help people change. Of course, Eminem in 2009 is gonna be different than Eminem in 2004.
Starting point is 00:57:40 You fucking kidding me? 2004 was five years. After his first breakthrough release in five years, he'd gone from being broke and unknown to being incredibly famous, spectacularly wealthy. His second third major album had gone diamond just in the US with combined worldwide sales of over 40 million. If you made a dollar an album that's 40 million bucks, plus all the radio royalties, then there was the money made from huge, very successful, sold out worldwide international
Starting point is 00:58:07 tours. The movie 8 Mile came out in 2002. That was a big success. Almost a quarter of a billion of the box office versus a 40 million dollar budget. The soundtrack for the movie sold another 5 million copies. Then on-core, that takes a sales dip. Does great, but not diamond. So maybe it takes a break.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Just enjoy being super fucking rich. You know easy time to have writers block when you don't need to ever write anything again to be very wealthy for the rest of your life to have your future generations also be wealthy get the fuck out of here. Okay now we've met some of the celebrity clones talked about in way too many Facebook groups blogs random message boards and in the comment sections of too many YouTube videos. Now let's get into today's time suck timeline. Look at the true history of cloning, how far we've actually come, where we have yet to go, and also look into some more celebrity cloning conspiracies, look into a supposed cloning center, cloning center,
Starting point is 00:58:56 excuse me, that's very funny to me. And most importantly, meet the most important and prolific source of all cloning conspiracy information, Donald Marshall, oh, Donnie, so good. So much crazy to process right after today's sponsor break. Thank you for listening. Now let us dive into a crazy clone timeline. Shrap on those boots, soldier.
Starting point is 00:59:19 We're marching down a time, some time line. Takein' things off way back in 1885. Smart people starting to theorize about cloning. August Visceman, Professor of Zoology and Comparative Anatomy at the University of Frybug located in Baden-WĂĽrttemberg, Germany. Theorizes, the genetic information of a cell would diminish as the cell went through differentiation. Differentiation. Differentiation, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Making true, perfect, cloning impossible. His theory would be supported three years later in 1885 when fellow German and duologist Wilhelm Ruh fucking around with Frog embryos. Test his germ plasm theory for the first time. According to this theory, germ plasm, which is independent from all other cells of the body, so, uh, so, mantiplasm is the essential element of germ cells, eggs and sperm, and is the hereditary material
Starting point is 01:00:13 that is passed from generation to generation. Although the details of the germ plasm theory have been modified in a year since its premise of the continuity of hereditary material is the basis of the modern understanding of the process of physical inheritance. Now let's jump way up to 1938. Dr. Hans Spieman, another German doctor, determined to do all the heavy early lifting when it comes to the science that we'll need to cloning. Uh, proposes an experiment to remove the nucleus from an unfertilized egg and replace it with the nucleus from a differentiated cell. Same year, the guy who'd won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1935, publishes the results of years' worth of genetic experiments,
Starting point is 01:00:47 some involving primitive nuclear transfer experiments, involving salamander embryos in the book, embryonic development, and induction. He had been, uh, speedmen had been building towards this research for decades. Speedmen argued that the next step for research should be the cloning of organisms by extracting the nucleus of a differentiated cell and putting it into an inoculated egg. Six years later, not German, Oswald Avery, Canadian American descendant of Brits this time,
Starting point is 01:01:13 figures out that a cell is genetic information is carried inside its DNA. This is a big step. Without knowledge of DNA, cloning would not be possible. In 1952, Robert Briggs, Thomas J. King, two Americans, clone a frog by nuclear transfer of embryonic cells. They hatched 27 little tadpole clones of Northern leopard frogs, thereby creating the first animal clones in history. Same technique they use here, using somatic cells will later be used to create arguably the most famous clone of all, Dolly the sheep. 1962, a decade later, British biologist John Gordon. A Gordon announces that he has cloned South African frogs using the nucleus of fully
Starting point is 01:01:49 differentiated adult intestinal cells. He removed the nucleus of a fertilized egg cell from a frog, replaced it with the nucleus of a cell taken from a tadpole's intestine, this modified egg cell grew into a new frog, proving that mature cells still contain enough genetic information to form all other types of cells. This demonstrated that cells genetic potential does not diminish as the cell becomes specialized. True clones are possible. Another scientist or other scientists describing Gerdin's results start first using the word clone the first time in reference to animals. Decades of Gerdin's research and this breakthrough earned him the nickname, the Godfather of cloning. And this is where concern starts to come in
Starting point is 01:02:28 that someone could just like take a strand of your hair. Some of your sweat flakes your dry skin, et cetera, and use it to build clone you. He showed conclusively that this was, in fact, possible. Crazy shit. October 17th, 1972, Marshall Bruce Mathers, the third known profession, is M&M born in St. Joseph, Missouri
Starting point is 01:02:45 Interesting born ten years after a frog was cloned from intestinal cells. What does that mean? Who's intestinal cells was M&M created from adds two texts in the basement wall strings pieces of yarn between them Jumping head now to 1978 the world sees another amazing scientific advancement that kicks off some clone fear Louise Brown born in the UK the first child conceived via IVF in vitro fertilization, aka Test2baby. With IVF mature eggs are retrieved from ovaries, fertilized by sperm and a lab. Then the fertilized egg or eggs, the embryo or embryos, transferred back into the uterus or into another uterus. We went over some of this, I believe, in our designer, Baby Suck. As of 2018, over eight million test-two babies
Starting point is 01:03:29 have been born. Now that this technique had been perfected, cloning technology using elements of John Gertn's earlier work could be combined to create a clone embryo and have that implanted in a URUS. Easier said than done, of course, but recently this has become scientifically possible. December 2, 1981, Brittany Spears is born of a comb Mississippi. What does that have to do with any of the
Starting point is 01:03:48 science we've covered so far? I don't know, but it has to mean something. How does it all connect? Got to buy more yarn, text. 1984, a Danish researcher, Dr. Steen M. Will Edson at the British Agricultural Research Council's Institute of Animal, Physiology, and Cambridge, England, successfully uses cells from early embryos to clone sheep by nuclear transfer. The procedure he develops is essentially the one that will be used a decade later to produce dolly the sheep, although in dolly's case, nuclear eye from chur sheep,
Starting point is 01:04:17 i.e. not from sheep embryos will be used. The same year, Avril Lavigne is born. Hmm, interesting. Did the Illuminati clone her at birth? Somehow knowing she'd become famous, they must have. They use their dark evil wizardry to predict your future, but not be able to save her from death and need it to clone her. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:37 A decade later, 1994 in the US, American doctor Neil first clones calves from cells of early embryos. A year later, 1995, British doctors Ian Wilmot, Keith Campbell, create the world's first clone sheep, Megan and Mirag from embryo cells, and then the following year, Dolly the sheep, still one of the most famous clones of all time is born.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Dr. Wilmot and his team clone the world's first sheep from adult cells with Dolly. Now clone conspiracists really start to freak the fuck out. They've cloned a mammal using adult cells, only a matter of time before they clone you and everyone you love and then kill the originals because the clone can be, I don't know, controlled better as something. Not sure why some think that clones can A, B created really quickly so that you can be replaced and B be more easily controlled.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Anyway, dollies created via SNT, procedures, somatic cell, nuclear transfer. Reproductive SNSCNT, cloning is accomplished by implanting an SCNT-drived, blast-o-sized into the uterus of a surrogate mother, in which the embryo develops into a fetus carried to term. Nucleus of a cell is taken from anywhere in the animal's body, placed within an egg, with its own DNA material removed. The egg is technically called an inoculated osite. In Dolly's case, it was a mammary cell, hence the name Dolly, a nod to singer Dolly Partons, sweet sweet tata.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Did you know that Dolly the sheep was named after Dolly Parton's boobs? Has anyone ever had more famous boobs than Dolly Parton, by the way? Helusofina, Dolly Parton A has fucking fantastic boobs and B, so much more than her boobs. So much more than a country singer, very cool meat sack. He's done a surprising amount of very impressive, like humanitarian shit and all kinds of really cool things.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Love me some Dalai Parton. Maybe not as much as Jimmy Wisman from small time murder and crime sports. He really loves Dalai Parton. But still, love me some Dalai. Anyway, as it goes with a lot of experiments, dolly's life was short. Dolly started her life in a test tube in 1996, died just six years later.
Starting point is 01:06:30 When she was only a year old, there was genetic evidence that she might physically be older at five, she was diagnosed with osteoarthritis. At six, the CT scan revealed tumors growing in her lugs, likely the result of an incurable infectious disease. Rather than let her suffer, the vet's put Dolly to rest. Now again, does that mean like we talked to earlier, that being a clone will make you age faster,
Starting point is 01:06:50 that's been a concern, but they think they've figured that out since. Dolly's birth blew the world away. Scientists have taken a single adult cell from a sheep's utter and planted it into an egg cell that had been stripped of its own DNA successfully created a living, breathing animal, almost genetically identical to its donor. And then, Dali's health challenges, along with other cases in which cloned animals develop symptoms of diabetes or obesity, made it harder to grapple with the ethical and safety
Starting point is 01:07:12 controversies of the procedure. Not only did many countries, including Canada and Australia, now start to ban reproductive cloning in animals, but the United Nations would ban all kinds of cloning related to humans in 2005. Years later, you know, 2016 study will determine that cloning related to humans in 2005. Years later, you know, 2016 study will determine that cloning does not lead to premature aging. But by 2016, too much fear over the ethical concerns regarding cloning had already set in for this study to attract a lot of attention. Back in 1997, US scientists at the Oregon Regional Primate Research Center
Starting point is 01:07:40 create the first primates to recess monkeys named netty and ditto. There's adorable monkey names from DNA taken from cells of developing monkey embryos. No, ditto to monkey. No, ditto to the clone monkey. I like it. Primates, cloning, moving to primates now, a lot of people wondering when human clone trials are going to kick off. The next year, 1998, scientists in South Korea claim just successfully clone a human embryo kind of. They said their experiment was interrupted very early when the clone was just a group of four cells. So they technically barely do it. Still freaks a lot of people out.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Next year, 1999, Chinese born American citizen Dr. Jerry Yang leads a US experiment to clone calves from frozen cells taken from a Japanese bowl. The experiment is successful. Now proves that cells can be stored for later cloning. This advance will lead later to speculation, DNA of various celebrities being stored in execs, freezers, so if they don't follow illuminati orders, they'll get killed and cloned. Following here again, now in 2000, the first patents for cloning, given to the scientists who cloned Dolly, giving their company, Jaronon Biomed, extensive or exclusive rights to the technologies they
Starting point is 01:08:46 used. Same year, Japanese scientists cloned a baby bull from a bull that was a clone itself, the first recloning case involving a large mammal, a clone of clone. In 2001, scientists at advanced cell technology in Massachusetts cloned human embryos in the US for the first time. They don't get much farther than those South Korean scientists did. The embryos died at less than 10 cell replication. Still, this pisses a lot of anti-cloning advocates off.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Why are they doing this? An ACT spokesperson says their intention is not to produce a cloned baby, but to develop a way of obtaining embryonic stem cells to match to patients. Self-event over earlier, 2001 will also be the year that marked the first foray into pet cloning. That cat, CC, carbon copy, cloned by a company that wants to go into business reproducing pets 2002 California becomes the first US state to approve a law legalizing the therapeutic cloning of embryos and anti-cloning advocates lose their minds
Starting point is 01:09:38 And late 2002 a crazy human cloning advancement claim is made. It's not a true claim, but holy shit. Was this wacky, doodle nonsense fund look into? Clone aid, part of a religious group that believes humans were created by extraterrestrials, holds a news conference on December 26th, 2002. Very sparsely attended news conference. Not sure if anyone showed up at all actually. And they announced the birth of the first clone human a girl named eve and this is of course a not true
Starting point is 01:10:08 and be a crazy fucking story so worth digging deeper into clone aid uh... company still has an operational website clone aid dot com and it is worth checking out just look at their website uh... made me think no member of clone aid could make two paper airplanes looked exactly the same let alone clone anything It is jankiest fuck Forget clones. They can't even design a good website clone aid founded by the Rayleigh in movement
Starting point is 01:10:32 We talked about this organization labeled as a cult by some in the fifth take away of the ancient alien slash ancient Samarians time suck The Rayleigh in movement is nuts The Rayleigh in movement essentially believes that extraterrestrials created life on Earth, not bothered by that part, maybe they did. I wasn't there when human life began. But these fuckers don't seem to have a lot of archaeological evidence to point towards their claims. The Raylians, very much a part of the ancient aliens crowd.
Starting point is 01:10:55 The organization founded the 1970s in France by Claude Berrillin, known as Now Is Rail. This dude, former sports car journalist and test driver, following a purported extraterrestrial slash spiritual encounter in December of 1973 forms the railing movement, changes his name to rail. Basically, said he saw an alien and the alien was God and now he knows all of God's plans.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Right, standard coal leader fake profit ship with the UFO twist. And he is a standard coal dude. Rumors of multiple brides married to 16 year old when he was in his 40s when he cues a blatantly plagiarizing Rayleigh in scripture, a copy and a pacing the overwhelming majority of his teachings from books written previously by other wacky doodles. We will suck Rayleigh in Rayleigh, Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in
Starting point is 01:11:39 Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in Rayleigh in hiding out in some weird compound in the 70s now. Railism teaches that an extraterrestrial species known as the Elohim, Elohim,
Starting point is 01:11:50 Elohim created humanity using their advanced technology. They believe that the Elohim have historically been mistaken for gods. According to their website, it might be Elohim. The Elohim explained to us that they were created by a more advanced race of humans that were created by a more advanced race of humans and so on, and offended them. We are simply another link in the eternal cycle of life.
Starting point is 01:12:10 And one day our scientists will travel to another planet and create life the same way that Elohim did on our planet. All right. I believe that occasionally the Elohim have made it with humans, creating through our history, 40 Elohim human hybrids, who have served as prophets. Amongst those listed as prophets are the you know Buddha Jesus Muhammad and of course rail himself The journalist guy, you know naturally being the 40th and final prophet
Starting point is 01:12:33 He's the same as Jesus and Muhammad and Buddha, you know, you get it He's very important prophet and if you're asking why the Elohim don't just show themselves to the rest of us The railings have an answer for that Because an unannounced and undesired landing would be pandemonium, and the world governments would view them as invaders, resulting in threatening retaliation by the military. You think if they were smart enough to, you know, powerful enough to start off our planet,
Starting point is 01:12:55 they could handle the military, but okay. The only way to avoid this disastrous scenario is to raise awareness of who the Elohim are and spread rail's message all over the world first. Only then can we envision the return of our creators who love us and who wish to officially meet with our world governments so they can share their scientific heritage. Totally. If we want to see the alien gods, we all have to become aliens first. We have to give the aliens our tides and you know only then will
Starting point is 01:13:20 peace and harmony come to earth. If we all join this cult. So what does this have to do with clone aid? Clone aid was registered as a company and the Bahamas founded by the Raylian movement. When he formed his clone company, Rayl had an express purpose in mind, clone aid's vice president, Thomas Kanzig said, in an interview, it was a project
Starting point is 01:13:38 to create controversy to wake people up, he said. I read that as we have zero fucking clue with clone aid entails. We just need to create some buzz for our please worship aliens with us and worship me as an alien profit moment jumbo. Clone aid started back in 1997 and spring in 2001. Clone aids research director, Dr. Bridget Bosselier, a French Canadian chemist, a Rayleigh in Bishop and the company's chief executive began talking about a secret clonate laboratory
Starting point is 01:14:03 in the United States. The she was in charge of. Before cloning this doctor who does have a PhD in chemistry worked for a French industrial gas company. Huh? That's, that sounds like a something that's a little different than cloning. Working in industrial gas from what I understand, you know, doesn't require you to spend a lot of time inserting like DNA into eggs to make clones.
Starting point is 01:14:24 So that's interesting. Also, if you do a Google image search for one doctor, Bridget Boslier, holy shit, she looks fucking crazy. Like Manson family level of crazy. Like just right away, you're like, wow, something's going on there. Like in every single picture ever. When asked by the FDA about this cloning lab, she was very coy about it. Coy about it.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Set an official at the Food and Drug Administration, whose approval would have been required for any human cloning work in the US. She said, I have a lab, but I won't tell you where it is. So the FDA was like, all right, well, we'll just fucking investigate and find it. And the FDA's office and criminal investigation did find the lab, and this is so great. They found a rented room at an abandoned high school in the small suburban town of Nitro West, Virginia. That is the secret cloning lab of former classroom
Starting point is 01:15:15 where algebra biology was taught, where kids made spitballs and tried not to let their teacher say how high they were. The FDA, you know, they investigate this room, they immediately determine that the environment, hardly ideal, they investigate this room, they immediately determine that the environment, hardly ideal for advanced research laughable, but they actually were you in research here, which is so funny to me. They wrote in their report about insects flying to the open windows, possibly from nearby barn. This was no place where sterile conditions could be had,
Starting point is 01:15:38 and official said, and the lone Rayleigh and clone researcher there was not a doctor. He was a grad student who seemed quote, woefully unprepared. When it came to cloning, I love this so much. One grad student in a former West Virginia high school classroom, doing all their clone research work guided by a crazy woman who knows a lot about industrial gas and nothing about cloning. The FDA determined that work that the work this one person was doing wasn't even on human cells. The grad student had obtained some cow ovaries from a slaughterhouse and was trying unsuccessfully
Starting point is 01:16:12 to extract eggs from them. Oh my God, the official report of the notebooks had a sketchy page and a half of entries like we went to the slaughterhouse and got some ovaries and that was it. Some of the equipment in the lab was actually state of the art. So this one person was surrounded by some cool shit in this lab in the subanit high school. The equipment had been bought by a grieving father whose ten-month-old son had died of congenital heart disease and who wanted to clone him. So so sad.
Starting point is 01:16:38 So weird for a cult to pran someone's grief. I feel like cults usually avoid taking advantage of the desperate. This dad, this poor dad Mark Hunt, a lawyer and former West Virginia state legislator had obtained the equipment from a fertility lab that had gone out of business. Then he got suckered into the Raylions bullshit accounts of how much he paid. Very, but Dr. Michael A. Gillian, a journalist said on ABC news that Mr. Hunt spent roughly $200,000, the buying this lab equipment. And then he later sold the equipment in Nitro
Starting point is 01:17:07 and shuttered the lab and then publicly broke off from the railings after this investigation. Poor bastard. Clone eight now supposedly operating independently out of the country, if you can believe they were ever operating. Ha, ha, ha. Ah, they moved their operations.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Which means they moved their one grad student. Now that they don't have any equipment I love picturing this jenky cloning lab in this little town of nitro population around 7,000 females outside of Charleston We're just fucking one guy is just digging around some cowoveries and he has no idea what he's doing There's a crazy boss who also doesn't know what's going on her boss is a cold leader We're a funny chain of command and operation to imagine Just rail the cold leader yelling at his bishop wondering where his clone is.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Then Dr. Bridget yelling at a grad student to then frantically dicks around with some cowoveries and scribbles some nonsense and a notebook. And this bug infested West Virginia classroom, right? Dr. Bridget answers her phone, you know, from rail. Just where are the clones, Bridget? Where are they? I'm sorry, I don't have the interview right now, Real.
Starting point is 01:18:05 I'm gonna check him with Todd. I mean, I'm gonna check in with our research team at our powerful US secret laboratory. Then, you know, cut to her, hanging up, talking out of Todd. Todd, where the fucking clones? Real is pissed. I'm tired of him, reaming my ass.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Right, Mark gave you all the equipment, right? You should have at least a few clones, grown in big tanks or something, filled with liquid like in the movies. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Dr. Bridget. I'm just having a little trouble getting human babies from the cow ovaries that you have me by. Is there any way you can give me human ovaries?
Starting point is 01:18:33 No, Todd, I can't. We're not made out of money, Todd. According to everything I learned working in France and industrial gas, cow ovaries should be able to easily make human baby clones. Yes, of course, Dr. Bridget. You'll have your clone soon. And then Todd just like hangs up and buries his head in his hands starts crying Then runs around the lab, you know chasing fucking flies getting off the equipment screams at the cow uterus laying on a tray Well, you know flipping pages through his no-butt is come on. There's gotta be a way
Starting point is 01:18:57 gotta be a way In late 2002 clone aid this fucking powerful laboratory claims they create Eve to clone aid this fucking powerful laboratory claims they create eve clone aid claims they carried out 3000 trials using cow eggs and human cells to form dividing embryos which were then destroyed clone aid also said they fused over 200 human eggs with adult cells in order to get just 10 which appeared normal of which five did implant successfully so Todd was fucking working in 2002 it was busy they said they planned for more clones. The day after Dr. Bridget made his announcements, she added that four more human clones were to be born within a
Starting point is 01:19:29 few weeks. Bridget claimed to clone eight had a list of couples who are ready to have a clone child and that 20 more implant implement, implementations or implantations of human clones were on the way. In announcing baby Eve's birth on December 26, Bridget said a panel of independent experts would soon be given access to the child to conduct DNA testing to verify she wasn't deed to clone. Then after a court case was filed, cloning official decided not to allow the testing. Bridget said this was because the parents were afraid their baby might be taken from them. Seems like she slipped up here saying parents shouldn't she say parent as in singular? Uh, despite repeated request by the research community and the news media to verify their wild claims taught
Starting point is 01:20:09 I mean clone aid of course never provided any evidence to confirm the existence of eve or the other 12 human clones they were reportedly would create a clone aid also did not disclose the location where fake baby Eve was born. You know this fucking classroom. Nor the nationality of her parents, leading many government officials initially in the concerned public to wonder where the fuck this baby is. If it exists, it just gets weirder.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Just December 31st, a Florida lawyer asked a court to appoint a legal guardian for Eve, this fake baby. The petitioner Bernard F. Segal, who practiced in Coral Gables, had previously served on the board of a children's rights organization. He said he was acting solely as a private citizen asserting that if the baby existed, she was being exploited, exploited by clone aid and may have clone related birth defects. He's afraid that Eve may be being used by her creators to be experimented on.
Starting point is 01:20:59 What is happening here? I can't believe this lawyer is falling for any of this. Now a judge in Broward County, Florida, of course, Florida orders, Bridget Bosseller, Dr. Bridget, to answer questions about the baby and her whereabouts in order to determine whether the state of Florida should appoint a guardian for Eve. Then the clone aid attorney, Johnson Schwartz, argues that the Florida court does not have jurisdiction because the child is not born in that state. I've never been there.
Starting point is 01:21:20 My God, they're just refusing to admit they don't have a fucking clone. Then clone aid claims that the second clone girl is born to a lesbian couple in the Netherlands, January, 33, 2003. And on January 23, 2003, CNN reports that clone aid now says it's also cloned a boy. Then clone aid claims that the, you know, this, this third bit clone, clone baby is healthy. It was cloned from tissue taken from a Japanese couple's comatose to your old boy, who was injured in an accident died about 18 months before the news broke. Representatives for clone eight said the cloning of the Japanese boy marked in advance
Starting point is 01:21:51 in cloning technology because the DNA of the dead boy was inserted into the egg belonging to the surrogate mother to create the clone. And they just will not refuse to let this, they refuse to let this go. And clone eight's previous two claims of cloning. It said the mom's eggs were used to create the babies, making them genetically identical to the moms. And total clone aid claimed that five baby clones were born between December 26, 2002, February, four 2003, all of them developed normally.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Grad student, Todd, fucking killing it in 2002 and 2003. Man, I hope they rewarded him with a better second lab. In February 2004, a clone aid with claim that a six clone was born in Australia. These people just won't stop. That seems like the kind of business last week's douche mark Twitch will have been involved in. Right, bragging on chat rooms about all the cloning advancements he had made. Maybe also talking about some cool new film. He's going to make it about it all.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Hey everyone, slogan again. Logan has a Wolverine, you know, from the X-Men movies, because that's who I remind everyone of, you know, working on a new project. After killing it on my Star Wars fan film, it'll make millions soon, and then, you know, making millions more with the best comedy show ever. Now I've decided to make some clones,
Starting point is 01:23:00 because I wanted to write the best sci-fi trilogy ever. Something that will, you know will make the matrix trilogy look like a public access show, and since I only write what I know, I knocked some clones out, NBD. I've already come out with a super original title for my clone programs, gonna be called Star Wars, Clone Wars. My ICG's have been firing again on all cylinders,
Starting point is 01:23:22 and I have about a thousand cylinders by March 2004 Clone aid claim that eight extra baby clones have been brought to term for a total of 13 baby clones so many clones By this time most people had figured out the clone aid was fucking garbage. It's not this According to sealed court documents received by the Boston Globe reported on April 27th 2003 They determined that clone aid had two employees right? course, they had the doctor and the fucking grad students doing all this cloning. The globe could find no address, no board of directors, CBS reported that Clonate, not a real company,
Starting point is 01:23:55 but some lack of doodles of kind who worry about cloning conspiracies, of course, believe that they're totally real, they're making clones, they're the Illuminati. Clonate, like I mentioned, does still have a website, even though it looks like it has not been updated since the mid-2000s. And according to the website, Clowny can help you. If you're sterile and have lost hope of having the child you dream of, if you're homosexual and deeply desire a child, you would carry your own genes.
Starting point is 01:24:17 If you're just lost or about to lose, or if you've just lost or about to lose, a beloved family member would like to see an identical twin of that person begin a new life. If you're HIV positive and want to have a child, that would be your genetic twin without infecting out of the baby or your partner with the virus. If you simply want to be cloned, whatever your reasons may be, here's an overview of the process steps. Number one, first, fill out our contact form. Number two, one of our representatives will contact you to discuss your situation and goals.
Starting point is 01:24:43 And by one of their representatives, I'm guessing they mean Todd. Number three, our medical team, aka Bridget and Todd, will evaluate your case. If your application is approved, we will make arrangements to obtain cells from the cell donor, the person who is to be cloned. Number four, over the next several weeks, the donor cells will be optimized for nuclear transfer of the cloning step of the process. I just picture them like doing a parenthetical. Sometimes it takes, you know, long and several weeks to toss swamped.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Number five, we then retrieve eggs from eyes of the patient or an egg donor and proceed with the nuclear transfer using the donor cells taken earlier. Number six, and for several days, the clone embryo will be implanted in the patient's womb or that of the surrogate mother. Again, a picture like a parenthetical. This will be done in a very clean, former high school classroom. We've upgraded since West Virginia. We no longer let Todd open the window.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Number seven, the patient or surrogate mother will carry the fetus to term to a normal nine month pregnancy. And number eight, the baby, a genetic twin or clone of the cell donor will be delivered at a new human life. That of the desired child will begin. So simple, very straightforward. One, two, three, clone, clone eight. Not the only group to claim to have cloned a human.
Starting point is 01:25:49 In 2004, another group led by Husa Kwang of Seoul National University in South Korea, published a paper in the journal Science, in which he claimed to have created a cloned human embryo in a test tube. However, an independent scientific committee later found no proof to support this claim. Then in January 2006, science announced that Wang's paper had been basically thrown in
Starting point is 01:26:07 the fucking trash. It'd been retracted. He's like the South Korean Todd. Now up to 2005 and Snuppie, who we mentioned earlier, in 2005, South Korean scientists actually do clone Snuppie, which is a particularly impressive feat. Dogs are considered particularly difficult to clone because of their complex reproductive biology. South Korea would announce in 2007
Starting point is 01:26:25 that in 2005 cloned wolves were born. Also in Japan, a fourth generation clone pig is cloned yet again, proving that a mammal can be cloned for multiple generations. Moving up to 2009 now, scientists in Spain able to clone an extinct animal for the first time, the Pyrenean Ibex subspecies of the Spanish Ibex. When the last one died, scientists saved the skin in liquid nitrogen, reserving the DNA.
Starting point is 01:26:47 In early 2009, scientists implant this Ibex's DNA in domestic goat eggs. The previously extinct Ibex is born, but lives for only seven minutes, due to lung defects. Now this is very interesting. This is some Jurassic Park shit. And it made me think, like, could scientists use clonitec technology to bring dinosaurs back to life? Well, sadly, it does not look like it because while dinosaur bones can survive from millions of years, dinosaur DNA almost certainly does not.
Starting point is 01:27:16 But do not despair Jurassic Park fans. Some scientists think that there's the possibility that dinosaurs can be reverse engineered back into existence. By editing the genetic code and the DNA of extinct animals closest living relatives, scientists could theoretically slowly build backwards and manipulate a model of the species DNA and make a new dinosaur, which is, yeah, crazy. That's even talked about as a theoretical possibility. 2011, a lab in Argentina becomes the first successful laboratory to create a transgenic cow. A cow whose genetic material is altered using genetic engineering techniques.
Starting point is 01:27:46 The use of human genes introduced during the cloning process means the cloned cow, Rosita ISA, was able to produce human-like milk, not quite human milk, but similar, so weird. At same year, scientists from Russia, Japan, began attempting to bring the woolly mammoths out of extinction. The laboratory was set up in Siberia. The goals take DNA from frozen woolly mammoths, carcasses, introduced the DNA into an Asian elephant's egg. If it has worked, it has not been publicized. It probably has not worked. The international scientific community does not have high hopes because thus far, all known attempts to capture viable DNA from any frozen carcasses has not been successful. Also in 2011, September of 2011,
Starting point is 01:28:25 at South Korea's Incheon Airport, seven super-clone, sniffer dogs, are dispatched to detect contraband luggage. They are all golden Labrador retrievers, genetically identical to Chase, who is the top drug, canine in South Korea when he retired in 2007. Also in 2011, a man named Donnie Marshall, woohoo!
Starting point is 01:28:43 He he he he! Comes forward with some extremely credible info about cloning. Fucking finally. I get to introduce the man, the myth, the legend. Donnie Marshall buckle in. Despite not being a celebrity at the time of his confession, though he would become a celebrity of sorts after it. Marshall claimed to be a clone,
Starting point is 01:29:00 one of many illuminati bread clones. As he revealed on Facebook, Donnie was made in a so-called cloning station run by none other than Queen Elizabeth. Fuck yeah! So that's what the then 85 year old was up to, running a clone station. I always wondered how the royals spent their days since they don't have any real political power anymore. Picture Queen Elizabeth sitting around and how the clones come in a long reginal. Excellent your majesty, Donald Marshall should be fully formed within the hour. Delightful Reginald, if you need me I'll be in the laboratory experimenting with the new
Starting point is 01:29:31 cloning process I was daydreaming about over to this morning. I might quite like to make a tear ducted tomorrow, but perhaps make a new Gerard Butler. I quite like him. Yes, of course, your majesty, both excellent choices you might as do. When Marshall was born in the original Marshall not clone Marshall He says his family was already living in a cloning center According to him his mother Catherine McMayhan sold OG Donnie into sex and torture slavery When she remarried a man named Gordon Kahoon fucking Gordon were a stepdad ever
Starting point is 01:29:59 Oh, you thought you had a bad when your stepdad yelled at you or hit you Well, did your stepdad sell you to an illuminati cloning station? Right to be sexually assaulted, requested Queen Elizabeth, no, then shut the fuck up! Gordon's family was apparently in the Illuminati. There's brothers Tom and Tony's, well as the sisters, Darleen and Bernadette. Now after his mother's marriage,
Starting point is 01:30:17 they're all living in some sort of clandestine Illuminati palace. Donnie Marshall's discussions of all this have been extensive. Donnie Marshall is the walking, talking, blogging heart of clone conspiracy dumb, the Q source. Nearly every clone related conspiracy blog out there has discussed him or his tale. It's hard to find a video that makes mention of celebrity cloning without also mentioning
Starting point is 01:30:37 something from the Donald Marshall canon. The basics of his obviously 100% indisputably true story goes something something like this during his time at the cloning station, which be the entirety of clone marshals whole, you know, life. Cloned ony discovers that the entire operation is run by a collective consisting of the free maasons. Mm hmm. Of course, the free maasons, a group called the real society and also Scientologists should have known Tom Cruise is behind this somehow. That's how he can keep making his action movies as he gets older, right?
Starting point is 01:31:06 There's probably five or six Tom Cruise is out there and they pick, you know, whatever clone is in the best shape for each new mission impossible movie makes perfect sense. Marshall says that members of the Illuminati, which include all the G20 world leaders, typically meet in subterranean bunkers. They love to meet underground. Makes it easy to meet with their reptilian overlords, right? Anunnaki, cruise on over to meetings via high speed trains that run along their lizard tunnels or you know, you get it in this very, in these very same bunkers, according to
Starting point is 01:31:33 Marshall, there is a highly lucrative network of celebrity cloning farms. God, David, that's, that's how we get here. You guys, that's how we get right here. Uh-huh. Yep. That's what you're hearing. you guys, that's how we get right here. Uh-huh. Yep. That's what you're hearing. Underground clone experiments.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Equal this. God, poor chorus Reblin. The cloning part of this operation didn't actually start until sometime after World War 2 at which point Marshall explains in a Facebook post, the political people started bringing movie stars, musicians there to hang around with them. They can control who remembers the cloning facility and who will remain oblivious, even though not remembering still damages you. These dark wizards are so powerful, their sorcery is capable of easily wiping the memory
Starting point is 01:32:19 of whoever. Interesting, they would let cloned Donny keep running his fucking mouth about all this. Maybe his tinfoil hat keeps him from,... keep them from being able to scramble is uh... rock solid noodle must be that donny says that some of these clones are used of course for mere entertainment you know gladiator style wrestling about sexual perversions illuminati ritual sacrifices the huge back in two thousand eleven you know just queen Elizabeth
Starting point is 01:32:43 probably obama hillary clinton tom hangs bill gates etc Back in 2011, you know, just Queen Elizabeth, probably Obama, Hillary Clinton, Tom Hanks, Bill Gates, etc., and join some underground clone fights. Donnie said that other clones or kept his precautionary measures should the clones original ever need like a new liver make sense somebody clearly watched the island. Donnie writes, they make replicated bodies of people to victimize in terrible ways. They clone children for men with underdeveloped penises to have sex with. Some very famous and politically powerful people are all getting together for a disgusting time. Oh my god, most of the G20 gather there to discuss worldly matters and watch gruesome things done to innocent people for sport. I've seen this firsthand and would tell all is it must be stopped.
Starting point is 01:33:27 I love the underdeveloped penis's part. What? That was a weird detail. You know, they have guys with little penis that are embarrassed and they can't have sex in the real world so they go to the underground clone lab to take their little peens and take them to the clone kids. Clownie cloned on he continues his claims get weirder. He writes, it is basically a torture and
Starting point is 01:33:54 child molesting factory. I was one of those children, but when I was young to keep the perverts off me, I started singing songs, original songs, very good ones. They told me to keep making these songs and I wouldn't get hurt. So I did. Then they started bringing me there every day for songs as the celebrities wanted more. They called me the goose that laid the golden eggs, the phenomenon, but I ran out of ideas. Then the torcher began. They smashed my face to start with just getting warmed up, smashing his face a bit, throwing me around, scarring me, scaring me, scaring me, scaring me, five year old, never letting me remember in real life until I turned 30. That's weird that they don't let him remember it at first, but then they let him remember
Starting point is 01:34:39 later when he's 30. Okay. Even if some story could be believed up until this point. Who is gonna believe this in the right mind after this weird golden egg songwriter bullshit? Right, he's saying that like at the age of five and younger, he's writing incredible songs for celebrities. He's a hit songwriter.
Starting point is 01:34:58 That's what I take from this. As the age of five and under, every parent knows this is bullshit. Almost every kid in the history of kids has made up songs at the age of 500. None of their parents have ever thought parents who were saying at least that other people would think that their songs
Starting point is 01:35:10 are on par with like radio hits written by adults. Billions and billions of songs have been made up by small children. Literally not a single one of them has been good because little kids have little kid brains and capable of making up a song worthy of actually being heard on the radio by people who don't know their kids
Starting point is 01:35:23 who would think like, oh, that's good. If little kids started writing all of our music, music would immediately become drastically less popular. My daughter Monroe used to make up all kinds of songs. Just stream of consciousness, you know, like gibberish nonsense. You know, I'm sure I did the same thing when I was a little kid. I like poppies. There are poppies and I like them. I bet the poppies sometimes if you can, you will. I love puppies. There are puppies and I like them.
Starting point is 01:35:45 I bet the puppy sometimes if you can, you will. I love it. Can you see them? Puppies like to play with me. I could be a princess and you don't know. You don't know. You don't know what a puppy can do for you. Wish I had some mac and cheese.
Starting point is 01:36:01 I like it. Wish my dad would make it for me. Hey, buy me a pop me for free. You can hear anything better than that. Written by a three or four year old. I actually tried to find one example of a good song written by somebody five run down YouTube. Does not exist.
Starting point is 01:36:15 So don't totally suck, but those ones, you know, clearly helped out with the parents that's helping out there, which they usually admit in the video description. Back to clone Donnie's credible claims. The torture worsened until I was being stabbed and burned and repeated this atomized. At age 30, they allowed me to remember these clone memories. Again, why would they allow you?
Starting point is 01:36:33 And now every time I enter REM sleep, I am there. I don't have dreams, only clone memories. They made the movie The Island an inception about their subject. They think they're very slined and touchable. I think clonnie or clonnie clonnie clonnie clonnie has nightmares, confused memories Why are the Illuminati doing all this? Well, I guess just because they're gross. Marshall explains They have nothing to do but show off for each other and discussing ways. They have no shame. It seems nothing embarrasses them
Starting point is 01:36:58 They sit there in the stands of an unused arena smaller than a hockey rink, but can still sit between 300 and 400 people with dirt in the center where the ice would be. I think he understands what a arena means. Like a arena is generally like 10,000 plus. A small arena is still going to have more than 300 or 400 people. I think he's thinking of like a conference room, like a hotel conference room. Anyway, Donnie continues. They have frightened clowns of children go into the middle to be victimized and bizarre and disgusting spectacles. Sometimes having animals like dogs have sex with them while a man holds the leash, so won't bite them on the back of the neck,
Starting point is 01:37:35 which I've seen happen before. What? They all try to outdo each other in their levels of depravity to be evil is cool to them. And Donald says, a royal family is the center of all this. And Putin for good measure. The royal family of England, yes, Queen Elizabeth, Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Prince Charles, are the worst of them. Unbelievable, depraved perverts, all showing off for their celebrities to go there. Elizabeth has the children call her a little bit and does ungodly things to them. She sometimes fakes be nice to them and then is terrible to them, cutting them with swords while they scream. The decent people that are there against their will
Starting point is 01:38:09 are afraid to say anything against them. Most have their children there as kind of hostage to be torn apart if they think of informing anyone, but as they have been torturing me terribly, anyways, I'll tell all that Vladimir Putin loves to put the fear of torture and death into people, but is essentially a cowardly pervert himself. And what a weird extra detail, like they bring celebrities who don't even want to be there
Starting point is 01:38:27 and just force them to watch and like kidnap their kids. Are you enjoying the show? Just Queen Elizabeth with a sword cutting on. Gah, you like this? Do you like this Brad Pitt? The fuck? Again, I keep in mind that Queen Elizabeth was 85 years old when he's writing this. Not exactly easy for an 85 year old torch people to sword.
Starting point is 01:38:46 I'm guessing there's not a lot of small 85 year old women with no history of athletic achievement who suddenly become very good with swords. Apparently, doing this place, if you torch your person's clone, the original will somehow feel it, because magic, and might even undergo actual physical damage, because magic. Each new clone decreases your mental capacity as well. So the more clones that are made, the easier the person is to hurt or subdue, uh, two of Queen Elizabeth's favorite pastimes. And again, I think of Port Cory Feldman.
Starting point is 01:39:15 I'm talking to you again. I'm wanting all of them. I want it. I'm wanting to do it. I'm calling out. Again, that's rocking revolution. If you want to make sure, and you know, listen to that. It's bottom fine. Clone Donnie says the Illuminati in charge. I want it. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:39:27 I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm They do what Queen Elizabeth says. So you need to follow her every whim without question. It doesn't matter who you are. If you have a cute child or a child with a money making ability, like song making, it will clone your child and molest them. It's a pedophile's paradise and must be stopped.
Starting point is 01:39:53 I love how this idiot will just not like you with a song making angle. Elizabeth secretly owns a few music companies, Universal and others, with bands under contract. She forces me while under knife to compose music for them. If I can't, she will stab my clone, burn me. Have her pervert thugs smash my body. It's causing me some kind of heart damage and severe debilitating headaches. That might be the tumor that's clearly affecting your thinking.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Jesus Christ. Now the Queen of England is obsessed with making clones kick out songs. How many fucking songs do these people need? And I guess this is OG Donnie here. It's hard to keep track of his crazy. It's a clone Donnie I thought was getting established really not OG Donnie. So I guess when he's talking about clone Donnie being hurt and he'll talk a lot about that. He's talking about clone Donnie other time he's talking about OG Donnie maybe maybe maybe they all took turns writing this post just a room full of scared Donnie's trying to get the word out. The Canadians team Donnie writes actually seem to be some of the worst bad guys in this.
Starting point is 01:40:47 Another deplorable thing they did in real life, the Canadian government was trying to lower the amount of prostitutes on the streets. Elizabeth hates prostitutes. So they had a man named Robert Pickton, start killing them, feeding them to pigs on his pig farm. They had a camera set up in the upper corner of a room in his house, recorded him, heading them in the head with a hammer, a ball-pean hammer. They took the recordings and all watched them at the cloning station. Elizabeth loves it.
Starting point is 01:41:09 She has a macabre fascination with death. Prime Minister Stephen Harper knows all about it, has seen the recordings and cheers. If Mr. Piquedon ever says something about them or the recordings, they will make him have a heart attack or aneurysm. This is too good. I did not expect this subject to tie back to the previous object of all bobby willy but really but really but a quick and then come watch it a half of the way that why make it look like a film about the way that
Starting point is 01:41:34 uh... marshal says it was a lot of the city not help him but it's like a weird fucking mad lives uh... original king of comedy burning back did try to help this is all feels like a medicaid's gets freni uh... cl king of comedy burning back did try to help this is all feels like a medicaid's kids for any uh... cloned on the rights one good person
Starting point is 01:41:51 and what is so funny right now one good person there burning back comedian actor tried to stand up for me and it's not right to do this to a human being he tried to have others join them in speaking out against the clone torture then queen Elizabeth and philipatic tortured He tried to have others join him and speaking out against the clone torture. Then Queen Elizabeth fell about him tortured. So badly, there is an example of their power. He actually had an aneurysm the next day and died. So that's what happened to Bernie Mac.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Here, I thought that the last four years of his life, he had a heavily documented serious health problem. The cause of the half to take breaks and filming a variety of projects. I thought he publicly said he had a rare lung disease and then died from pneumonia. At the young age of 50 and the pneumonia was brought on by this lung disease. No, uh-uh, aneurysm. Because he asked Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip to stop torturing their hit song writer,
Starting point is 01:42:36 Donnie Marshall. Remember those glowing book reviews that were at the start of this episode? They were about this kind of shit. It's unbelievable. Clone Donnie or OG Donnie or Team Donny, whatever continues. No one will speak up. They're all afraid of suffering the same fate now. All it will take is a few lie detector tests.
Starting point is 01:42:53 I will volunteer for them. They cover up for themselves so carefully that it'll be the only way. Right, these fucking black magic motherfuckers can be taken out as lie detector tests. Okay, I know many non-famous people that can be given a lie detector test to prove this. When it comes to the sexual exploitation of a child, lie detectors are admissible in Canadian courts. I need decent people with
Starting point is 01:43:11 integrity to speak about his filthy business to tell who is involved and who is involved. Well, not Fifi Dobson and Kurt Russell. It's a more random cany-meos here in this fucking weird madlib. Cloned on it, says that Phoebe Dobson and Kurt Russell told me specifically to include in my letter that they don't like the place and they did not torture me. Love these random references and I love Phoebe Dobson. I used to have a huge crush on her. She's a weird good guy in all this though. She probably could have used some clone kid to write some new songs for her, right? She hadn't had a hit since 2003. Maybe stand up for Martin, maybe stand up for Marshall's Why should you have toabby the music industry and her sophomore album was held up in
Starting point is 01:43:46 fucking record label hell for almost a decade. And Kurt Russell, why'd her up from Tombstone? Mr. Goldie Han? I mean, he has always seemed like a great guy. Maybe that's why Marshall gives him a good guy role in this ridiculous fever dream of his. Next he goes after Miele Kunis. She is not a good guy, holy shit. He writes, and Mila Kunis, actors from that 70s show, recently stabbed me a bunch of times
Starting point is 01:44:13 while I was rendered a mobile for saying that she's a slimy scumbag for hanging with these people and for saying she has enormous eyeballs and looks like a lemur. Then she begged me to not mention her. Well, what the fuck is just imagine the scene playing out for a second. Oh, imagine Jackie Burkhard on that Saturday show. Just stabbing Donnie and clone factory. We're saying that she looks like a lemur. Fuck you Donnie!
Starting point is 01:44:36 Lemur! You think I look like a lemur? Step, step, step. Enormous eyeballs. Step, step. Now please don't write about me in your book. Clone Donnie gets into it with Madonna as well. He says, I told Madonna that I was going to tell everyone what she used to do to me for songs. Because he's written Madonna's all her songs like a virgin. No. That's not Madonna. That's Clone Donnie. She told me very specifically to say in my letter here, she is not afraid. No, believe me. Nothing will come of that description. Madonna. I can walk up to Clone Donnie. He's still go ahead. here she is not afraid. No, believe me. Nothing will come of that description. Madonna fucking
Starting point is 01:45:05 walk up to clone Donnie. So go ahead. Tell everyone that you wrote like a virgin. No one will care. Donnie. According to Donnie, so many other celebrities are in on it. Donbene Ramsey. What? Who's naming the misspells? Casey Anthony. These aren't even celebrities. I mean, not in the like actress musician since Casey Anthony's daughter.'t even celebrities. I mean, not in the actress musician sense, Casey Anthony's daughter, her parents Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, Hayden Christianchen, Natalie Portman, Barack and Michelle Obama. They're all either people torturing clones
Starting point is 01:45:34 or they have been cloned or frankly it's hard to keep track of. He manages to weave in Princess Diana's death into a story. Also, Elizabeth had Princess Diana's spence or killed by having someone shine the brightest light known to mankind through the window side onto the car, they swerved away from it, hit the divider, it was no paparazzi. Diana survived that one while either on the way to or in the hospital was injected with
Starting point is 01:45:58 a high concentration of salt, which is nearly undetectable and died. She did this because Diana was going to marry an Arab. Diana hated them, knew about the cloning stuff, wanted nothing to do with it, but was afraid of being killed so said nothing. I know this, and many more things, I will be more than happy to tell. What a weird way for a super powerful organization,
Starting point is 01:46:18 capable of powerful black magic as we established earlier to kill someone by shining a super bright light into the driver's side window of the car. Doesn't seem like that would be like highly effective. Like I doubt many professional drivers when they get a light shining into their eyes, just suddenly fucking jerk the steering wheel
Starting point is 01:46:33 and slam into something. I'm guessing they take their foot off the gas maybe or maybe just drop the visor down. Also seems like some other drivers would have if you noticed. Apparently Marshall's holders caught on to this attempt of his in 2011 to expose them by posting all these definite facts and his punishment, they sent to have him kind of tortured
Starting point is 01:46:55 with some weird surgery stuff. This is very odd. I need to set this ramble to some mood music. He writes Halfway through making this document. They brought me there Introduce me to a man named Troy Landry. He is an alligator trapper from Louisiana on the TV program swamp people He said if I sent this letter out he would take a power drill to my shinbone And suck the marrow from my bones kind of like a spinal, one of the worst things you can do to a clone, besides burning, hello.
Starting point is 01:47:34 I said the letter will be going out, Troy. I have to escape this place, and so he did just that. It was excruciatedly painful, everyone just watched, slackjod in the crowd. Troy Landry is an insatiable child molester. And this is his words, and an extra retarded clone. In Louisiana when he sees the young boy he asks his name, tells him he's an alligator hunter shakes hands. Then asks his petafile friends at the local cloning station to find the boys' blood records to clone him.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Months later, there are multiple identical boys grown for Troy Landry to victimize before a crowd of onlookers. What the fuck? Marshall, Donnie! Clearly not a big fan of Troy Landry from Swamp People. Crazy that one of the many cast members from that show, a guy who actually is not that famous. This is not Tom Cruise we're talking about crazy that he has that much aluminum on the power
Starting point is 01:48:27 And we're that instead of just killing Marshall for you know for talking and All this stuff they just they just torture him a bit and then just you know release him and let him have his memories Let him post about all this Marshall's novel continues They do all of this is just a way of life to them Continuous they do all of this is just a way of life to them They consider themselves the privilege people in the world power organization nearly everyone on the swamp people show go to the cloning stations I love to consider the cast of swamp people to be like amongst the global elite. Has he ever watched that show? Privileged people not a word. I would use to describe it in the swan people. He says, after doing this, shin bone spinal tap, he asked me again, will I send the letter
Starting point is 01:49:10 out? I said yes. He said he'll do the same thing to my pelvic bone every day, it's worse. I said I have no choice, Troy. And so he did and it is worse. You forget your own name where you are. All you know is pain. You beg God to save you from it."
Starting point is 01:49:26 Then Donnie explains why they didn't just kill him. And let's change the music now. Let's see how this sounds with a very different vibe. You may ask, why won't they just kill me before I send this document everywhere? It's because I've done so much since I aged 5, no one wants to be responsible for my death. They said on the New Age Jesus, which I'm not. Ah, they said on the Antigrice, also the Jewish people there.
Starting point is 01:49:48 There are more of them than anyone else. I know. Called me the Jewish Messiah, which I'm not. Now every day rich people go there to meet me and smash me your stabby for some gruesome fetish reason this seems. While the rest watching the stands, it's the worst nightmare situation I've ever heard of,
Starting point is 01:50:01 and it's happening to me. They get others too. But they're just used to sex slaves, they won't talk about it. I can torture anyway. I have nothing to lose by telling everyone about it, not only my tortured into making songs for everyone, but you know, they wanted me to give them video ideas, movie ideas, video game ideas. They want me to think about kind of stuff for them.
Starting point is 01:50:21 Jewish people think I'm something religious, and won't leave me alone, they torture animals too. The more the animal screams, the more they're god-yaways the bulgey likes it, which I find ridiculous. I've written to the human rights board, they haven't responded. I went to the police and they threw me into a mental hospital for 23 days for evaluation. That's the first thing Donnie said that I tend to believe, that he was forced to go into a mental hospital for psychiatric observation. Also, I don't know if he claims that he's super invaluable. And that's why he can't be killed.
Starting point is 01:50:49 But apparently, they'll let fucking anyone who looks to this guy to stab as much as they want. Right? Very stab happy here. They must have very careful instructions for, you know, these people as far as like where they stab him. You know, can you stab Donald? Of course you can.
Starting point is 01:51:03 He's very annoying. I stab him twice this morning, but you can't stab him in the neck head heart or other vital organs you can stab him in his arms legs you stab him his wing all day the saga continues I kind of like this more recent music I was released with a clear bill of mental health I doubt that they continue to torture me talk to me about absurd they've run out of things to talk about, even talked about the difference between pop-tarts and toaster-stoodle.
Starting point is 01:51:28 And which is better and why? There's nothing to do there besides sex, infighting, and torturing other victims. I really did not expect pop-tarts. And toaster-stoodles to show up with this fucking mad lib. They've offered me clone slaves to keep me quiet, and neither pretty swoon I've ever seen, any girl from the high school, even children, and I do the right thing,
Starting point is 01:51:45 I spit in their faces. I jam my fingers into their eyes. But they have some way of turning out their pain receptors there. Not much will hurt them, other than getting dirt or vomit in a wound. Or bleeding out too much, it only costs them time and money to grow in their bodies.
Starting point is 01:51:58 I started smearing excrement in their faces. I've never handled faces in my real life before, but I do this here, and it doesn't deter them. Just when I think he's hit Pete Crazy, he kicks it up another notch. What the fuck is going on in this cloning facility? It seems very poorly managed. Right, they have me lacuna stabbing this guy, they got Queen Elizabeth stabbing him, bunch of people satanizing him, I don't fucking swamp people, if you're all into a shin, they're just, you know, they're really having their way with him whenever they want, but also somehow he can poke guards in the eyes left and right.
Starting point is 01:52:29 And spit on people and throw literal shit on people when he wants. He's writing hit songs one minute. He's being a stabbing version of a human punching bag. The next he's been a fucking flinging shit monkey. The next. Oh my god, it's so crazy. You're speaking crazy. Did I mention that Donnie wrote all the right moves for one republic?
Starting point is 01:52:45 I think I heard a friend of all the right places. Don't care what going down the guy. Oh, hell yeah, that is all Donnie Marshall. That's a hundred percent clone Donnie or maybe OG Donnie or team, team Donnie, Donster. Let this clone clown tell you all about it. He continues with i made a song for one republic referring to it called all the right moves to lyrics they all the right friends all the right places all the right moves all
Starting point is 01:53:12 the right faces i made so many songs it's ridiculous rock pop rap country there are so many people involved in it staggering the organization is vast the only thing they fear is nuclear war the new improved lie detector test and this letter oh my god that made me laugh out loud when I first read it made me laugh out of you the luminotic fears three things and only three things you guys atomic bombs that's one to
Starting point is 01:53:41 a new improved lie detector test and three three, Donnie Marshall's letter. I'm surprised he didn't somehow sneak pop-tarts in there somewhere. Uh, there is no new improved light detector test, by the way. Oh God. Uh, he continues. This rant is almost over. I, uh, I promise. For those of you thinking,
Starting point is 01:54:01 Queen Elizabeth looks like a kindly little old lady. And this can't be true. You couldn't be more wrong. She's the worst human being I've ever seen or heard of. It's so sad to see this woman and children brought here sitting in the center, dirt naked, afraid, crying, raped, beaten for sport of the rich, and famous. I of course can't bring myself to be a part of it. When Donnie told him he wasn't was gonna stand for all this bullshit anymore, he said they told him the following.
Starting point is 01:54:30 Donnie, we are all powerful. If we can do this and nothing comes of it, how are you going to be able to get us? You are our slave and the people here won't speak up for you for fear of torture and death. Now go make us a new song or we'll gut you like a fish and leave you to rise and agony. I swear those are his words. Now go write us a new hit song, you genius. Always with the songs, Donnie is. Finally implores people. Do not waste this knowledge I am going through
Starting point is 01:55:07 and man made living hell for this. It is my only hope, this is all caps now. You serious? And the only hope of many people in prison there! Mm-hmm. Oh God. You know, as all you know, I'm sure, if you really want to keep someone under your thumb,
Starting point is 01:55:25 you just have to kill the original copy. Clones are notoriously obedient, which apparently comes in handy when you need them to, you know, turn out, hit single after single. What is happening here? If you still haven't heard enough about what Donald thinks about, about, you know, you can buy one of his books from Amazon. Mm-hmm. He has four, the last released in 2017 and an author page.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Let me put the most appropriate music yet behind me reading about this clown. This page is written in support and on behalf of Donald Marshall. There's no way this wasn't written by Donnie. Donald Marshall is a whistleblower who has exposed the highest level of luminonis secrets in knowledge to the world for which the has exposed the highest level of luminonity secrets In knowledge to the world for which the most relevant information on high-level Illuminati secrets can be found via his Facebook page started from March 2012 to December 2015 He continues to expose the Illuminati and factions of the Illuminati which include free masonry
Starting point is 01:56:19 Scientology the Braille Society 30-second degree free masonry Knowledge involving R&M Rapid Eye Movement Sleep Driven Human Cloning 33-degree Freemasonry Knowledge And High-Level Scientology Knowledge 33-degree Involving the prehistoric sub-training species named Veril Donald Marshall continues to expose the trinity of the Illuminati, whereby heads of states high-ranking members of governments, royalty, celebrities, politicians, and the wealthiest men and women on this planet meet as REM sleep-driven human clone versions of themselves.
Starting point is 01:56:49 Activated via the process of conscious transfer from the original bodies to the REM-driven human clone alternatives. Whenever these people sleep and as a result REM sleep, he's really into the REM on this. Yeah, I'll just give that a little bit, he won't shut the fuck up about the REM. He also continues to expose the sub-training trog the dice, for which their biological property, the proposes, the proposes, has been used to parasite human brains and turn humans and human consciousness into human hosts. Whereby the lizard consciousness dominates the human body, it's like a fucking Q-Non post.
Starting point is 01:57:19 Donald Marshall's exposure on the Vrill-Reptilling conspiracy has debunked many myths, such as for example whether Vrill or Mystical or Magical Shape-tiped or our coming race. Donald Marshall has exposed many species of aliens, and the technological capabilities of these aliens living among us. Many human attendees of the Cloning Center, visiting the Cloning Center via Ram-driven human cloning technique, okay now I won't shut the fuck up about Ram for a while again. He's mainly active on his Facebook page. Or by the most important information regarding high-level illuminati secrets. I've been exposed by Marshall.
Starting point is 01:57:47 Yep, and again, the 2012-2015. Okay, so it just goes on for a long time. And then he talks about how he's written all the music. Marshall composed many, many of the world's most favorite songs, which has been heavily plagiarized by world-renowned popular musicians as well as the ringlitters of the Illuminati. He's written all the good music. And then the very last paragraph of his bio reads, although Donald Marshall's primary objective
Starting point is 01:58:15 in life is to fully expose Illuminati. I fucking love this. He also enjoys baseball. He is an intermediate to advanced level swordsman. His most preferred sword is the katana. His favorite choice of beer is Alexander Kees India Pale Ale. And he lives in Canada. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:58:32 He mostly wants his sword, his luminati, and their cloning and the aliens and whatnot. But you know, he likes baseball. And he likes good, you know, pale ale and swords. Despite all of his songwriting claims, do you know that you can't find one video online of this guy singing a song? Isn't that crazy? The greatest hitmaker, the world has ever known. And you know, he can't let us hear a single song. Oh boy, but I will play a few seconds of him ranting about, of course, clones.
Starting point is 01:59:03 Oh, and alien abductions. Let me tell you something. They videotape alien abductions. They set up alien abductions with Hollywood makeup and stuff. Like not all of them. I can't say all of them. Some of them might be real for all I know. But I've seen the set.
Starting point is 01:59:19 It's a really crappy looking saucer. You just walk up a ramp into it. They never see the outside of it. But they clone people, right? And then, activating them when they're on a slab, strap down. And someone goes in with a gray mask, and the mask is made of chicken skin, okay? Just to give it that aspect of realism, die gray chicken skin. So it'll look real and does it look real? Stretched over
Starting point is 01:59:46 a mask, right, and they've had the mask on. They go in and have sex with the people. Oh, okay. And the videotaping and the people's faces to see their reactions and stuff. It's the government and celebrities doing this to- Wow, this guy, this, this, this is the main source of celebrity celebrity cloning conspiracies. I wanted to play the edits of the internet sounder at various points during today's suck, but there was no room for the edits of the internet segment because basically half of this episode is the edits of the internet. Despite all the craziness you've heard, yeah, people actually buy this check out some more five star ratings of his of his book or actually
Starting point is 02:00:25 I guess I just picked one here for the instance. I did some earlier. Here is somebody writing. He's not insane. These are true facts. The Illuminati or pedophiles, their powers are waning via law of cause and effect. I am an RH negative and these buffoons are using microwave lasers and Satanic ritual abuse to attempt to manipulate me since I had a spiritual awakening. They're trying to clone star C DNA, which are our each negatives. This man isn't lying. I've known that I have cosmic alien DNA that originated in Orion is of Pleiadian and Atlantean origins.
Starting point is 02:00:53 They are puppets to the Anunnaki aliens. I am part of the original Orion race with my origins of existence. Much of the negative alien races have actually used Orion's. I manipulated them for the tremendous powered wisdom. What the fuck? Oh, each you. Wow, these are the kind of people who believe in clone conspiracies. One final date and then we are out of this crazy timeline.
Starting point is 02:01:14 We're done with Donnie. On January 24, 2018, for the first time scientists say they created cloned primates using the same complicated cloning technique that made Dollar the sheep in 1996. Shanghai scientists created two genetically identical long-tailed macaques, ZZNHH. Their research is published in the journal Cell, and I'm sure that's going to lead to all kinds of extra wacko-doodles going bananas about all of this. Good job, soldier. You've made it back.
Starting point is 02:01:44 Barely. Good job, soldier. You've made it back. Barely. So how close are we truly to cloning humans according to people who unlike Donnie Marshall? And those who believe his weird horse should actually do understand cloning, I will tell you right after one final sponsor. Today's time suck is brought to you by Todd's Clone Shack. Good news, Clone Lovers. Todd is struck out on his own.
Starting point is 02:02:13 No more being Dr. Bridget's Clone Bitch. He's got a brand new lab. It's in the Baylor biotech medical plaza right out the old Spanish trail highway in Houston, Texas. Look for the maintenance shed behind the main building and then keep walking until you reach a small shack at the edge of the property. That's where you'll find Todd. tirelessly working on clones by himself seven days away 12 hours a day. Call 1-800-MICLEONE to get a hold of Todd if he doesn't answer, he's probably cloning.
Starting point is 02:02:37 Todd can take care of all your clone needs. He's got beakers, a lab coat, a master's degree, and sociology or something. A bachelor's degree in criminal justice, I'm pretty sure. He's got notebooks, petri dishes, animal parts, a mini fridge, and some kind of thing about a Star Trek convention is called a clone tank. So call, make an appointment, have yourself clone, or clone your kid, or Cory Feldman again, Avril Lavigne, Donnie Marshall, whomever. Todd's clone shack.
Starting point is 02:03:04 If it's got bones, he'll try and make clones. Best of luck if you choose to work with Todd. I've heard he's a real nice guy, not great at making clones, but fun to talk to. So how close are we to truly cloning humans? According to a 2014 interview with Jeffrey Khan, the Levi Professor of Bioethics and Public Policy at John Hopkins at Berman Institute of Bioethics, we are close.
Starting point is 02:03:27 Con said we're effectively as far up the ladder of using animal models as one can go. Oregon Health and Science University has cloned non-human primates that leaves only humans. According to several recent articles, we could do it right now if it wasn't for laws against it and ethical concerns. The question is no longer could we, it is should we? Bring those two baby monkeys to life in 2018 required multiple circuits hundreds of eggs numerous pregnancies most of them failed. In total 63 circuits were used resulting in nearly 30 pregnancies and four births of which ZZ and HH were only the only ostensibly healthy offspring to other baby monkeys resulted from the procedure died within two days of their birth. resulted from the procedure, died within two days of their birth. You couldn't think about doing that kind of human experimentation.
Starting point is 02:04:07 Says Marcy Darnovowski, PhD, the executive director at the Center for Genetics and Society. Well, you know, that doesn't mean some mad scientists wouldn't just go ahead and do it. Right now, there's no really good reason to fully clone a human being in pop culture and sci-fi. Cloning is used to bring people back from the dead, but that's not how it actually works as we've gone over. Best case, cloning someone would just create a twin, not a replica.
Starting point is 02:04:31 Identical twins have the same genetics, but their own personalities, and their own slightly different looks, you know, due to minute genetic replication errors. And since you have, you know, they have different life experiences, you know, the clone of you would not think like you. And in one of the many scenarios, Marshall claims existed, you know, they have different life experiences, you know, the clone of you would not think like you. And then one of the many scenarios, Marshall claims existed, you know, where organs are
Starting point is 02:04:48 harvested from clones to save the rich. That just doesn't make any sense. Either that's just so unnecessary, because why clone an entire person when you can just make the part you need therapeutic cloning can do that. Like we covered earlier, therapeutic cloning is almost identical to reproductive cloning, except the cloned embryo is never implanted in a uterus, and said the embryo is cloned for the sole purpose of extracting stem cells, and stem cells have the incredible ability to turn into any other cell in the human body, which means they're great for developing new diseases, or treatments for diseases, have the potential to repair,
Starting point is 02:05:15 or regenerate a variety of tissues and organs. You know, you can just grow the kidney, not grow an entire clone who you then fucking torture and cut the poor bastard's kidney out, like what would happen in a sci-fi movie? Finally, in the conspiracy sense, you know, cloning full adult human beings, you know, happens in a matter of days or hours, you know, in these kind of movies, that is like the always going to be impossible. I mean, science currently has no understanding of how the fuck would you even begin to make that possible?
Starting point is 02:05:40 There's currently no, no way to create a fully grown living organism, like a thousand times, 10,000 times, 100,000 times, whatever fasts with a normal. This isn't upgrading a new computer we're talking about or building a faster engine for a car. And when you really think about this, what an incredibly strange concept. To create something that just pops into existence as a fully adult organism, or equally strange to create something that grows through childhood at an unbelievably sped up rate like in one of those weird sci-fi tanks.
Starting point is 02:06:05 Then the rate somehow slows down to normal once it reaches the desired age. Scientists have figured out how to make a new varieties of crops that can grow faster, but they don't grow really fast, then slow down their growth rate when they're adult. It's just, that's a big difference. And even if you could make a full grown cloning yourself, it wouldn't really be you without your thoughts and experiences. What it, without those formative moments, the clone would still think and act differently. They might grow up to be very similar to you, even if they were grown up super fast, but
Starting point is 02:06:32 likely act more like a sibling or a cousin than an exact clone. Simple fact of the matter is we're more than, you know, our genes in order to clone ourselves and the people around us in the ways depicted in pop culture, the approach we need to be very different. We would have to approach the process of cloning, not from a genetic angle, but from a molecular level. A person would legitimately have to be recreated by every molecule to have the chance of being a direct replica of you as you are today.
Starting point is 02:06:54 Every memory recreated on a cellular level. We have no fucking idea how to do something like that yet. You'll see everything about that idea is still very much science fiction. Humans cannot be cloned. The way that Donnie Marshall much science fiction. Humans cannot be cloned. The way that Donnie Marshall makes it seem like humans can be cloned. I don't think. But then sometimes I go back and I listen to some Cory Fellett,
Starting point is 02:07:13 and I do wonder, what is happening here? What is going on with this guy? Let's listen to some blurs. What is this? What even is this? Get tired of my li- Oh boy. Ah, but JK. Not even with Korya Feldman, I don't question it.
Starting point is 02:07:36 These celebrities you see, the same people they've always been. Just altered by age and life experiences. Do they act, you know, differently from time to time? Yeah, we all do. They look differently as they age, of course. More than the average person in some ways. They have access to cosmetic surgery. Most of us can't afford. They face more societal pressure than the average person.
Starting point is 02:07:51 Actually go out and have cosmetic procedures done. Maybe sometimes those surgeries leave them a little bit cloney. Let's head now. So today's top five, take aways. Time, suck, top five, take aways. five takeaways. Number one, scientists still have not cloned an adult human. It's unknown whether or not they'll try to do so. Probably they will. Someone's bound to eventually try it,
Starting point is 02:08:14 aren't they? Probably soon. The decision comes with a lot of ethical baggage, including questions about the original person versus the clone person, the copies rights. What kind of scientific experimentation is ethical? Basically, what it means to be an individual. Another development to look forward to. One that could possibly shake the foundation of some of our ideas about ourselves as meat sacks. That's fun. Number two, many celebrities have, at one time, or another, been accused of being clones.
Starting point is 02:08:36 People claim to see these clones looking different in their original counterparts, you know, or malfunctioning supposedly. They include references to their alleged cloning in their music or writing sometimes that people read into, and these people are as sane as Donnie Marshall. Speaking of Donnie. Number three, Donnie Marshall. Plamed on Facebook in 2011, to have been the victim of horrific abuse in some kind of secret illuminati facility perpetuated by many people, including Queen Elizabeth and Mila Kutis.
Starting point is 02:09:02 Then you wrote some books about it and you can read it on Amazon. You also claim you've written so many songs. It's before you even turn five years old, including a hit one republic song and basically all the hits. You know, because one of the points of clones is to have them keep churning out popular music. He claims a lot of stuff. Pretty sure none of it is true, especially the Queen Elizabeth,
Starting point is 02:09:20 the swordsmith shit. Number four, Radiance. So fucking weird. A Raleigh and Off offshoot business named Clone Aid, who would claim to clone a baby girl named Eve and a bunch more babies in 2002, 2003 did not do that. Their cloning program only had two employees, and only one worked in the cloning lab.
Starting point is 02:09:35 Some confused grad student, Portaud. Number five, new info. Did you know that we eat clones every day? Not like human clones, but we do eat some clones. We eat fruit from plant clones all the time in the form of bananas, grafted fruits. We've been cloning plants for decades except that we refer to it as vegetative propagation.
Starting point is 02:09:52 Takes about 30 years to breed a banana from seed. So to speed the process of getting fruit to market most bananas, potatoes, apples, grapes, pears, peaches, grown from clones. My God, I may have fucked a clone in a grocery store bathroom back in 1994. If you get that reference, well, thank you. Celebrity clone conspiracies has been sucked. So glad I was introduced to the extremely
Starting point is 02:10:20 warped mind of Donnie Marshall. Also glad I actually learned some stuff about the science and history of real cloning. Uh, thank you to the Bad Magic Productions team for all the help making time soke every week. Quit a bad magic, Lindsey Cummins, Reverend Dr. Jill Paisley, Sophie, the fact source was Evans for running point on this week's research, Biddle Lixard for continuously refining the time suck app, Logan, the art warlock Keith, running bad magic merch.com, the visual artist for all things bad magic, and then Liz, the Enchantress Hernandez, working on our socials.
Starting point is 02:10:47 Liz runs our Coal to the Curious Facebook private page, currently Coal to the Curious too, along with her wonderful all-seeing eyes moderators. Thanks for helping curate an awesome online community, you wonderful all-seeing eyes. Thanks also to Beefstake and the Mod Squad running Discord. You can link to the time- discord group through the time suck app. Next week really changing things up again, after talking about Queen Elizabeth, and all her illuminati maneuvering this week.
Starting point is 02:11:11 And Lady Dye, let's actually suck Dye into the Princess of Wales next week. Let's learn a bit about Queen Elizabeth and the British Royal family conspiracists and so many others love to obsess over. Let's get gossipy. Why did the tabloids love Lady Dye? What did the tabloids still love the royal family so much?
Starting point is 02:11:28 What was the public of so many nations obsessed with Lady Diana for so long? Who was Diana Princess of Wales? How did she become a possible future queen? Then why did she walk away from that? Why do so many think the royal family had her killed? Did the royal family have her killed? We'll look into you know, various conspiracies again so much more next week on a very very Palsh and Royal edition of Time Suck. And now let's head on over to this week's Time Sucker updates. Updates, get your time, sucker updates. First update, a cult update from Ways Back, a children to God update,
Starting point is 02:12:01 a source from former cult member, current kick ass sack. Hello Lord Suck Master and everyone at Time Suck. I just wanted to say as someone born and the children of God cult, your episode was accurate and well researched, I wanna remain anonymous, but also wanted to say that in talking about cults,
Starting point is 02:12:15 it's important to me that people don't just listen by carelessly to others' pain. Some of the listeners you have will work in healthcare, and if you would consider mentioning to them that you will have patients who grew up in cults, they usually won't tell anyone this. It's a scary thing to disclose. We often don't have the words to explain what happened to us. We are traumatized.
Starting point is 02:12:30 There are signs that you can pick up on. Please educate yourself about this and advocate for creating a healthcare pathway for us. As many of us do not get adequate care as practitioners don't know what to do or who to send us to for help. Thanks for the podcast, which has been a great distraction during lockdown. Keep on sucking. Well, not I'm a sack.
Starting point is 02:12:49 Thank you. Happy to call to the curi. It's been a great distraction during lockdown. Also, happy you got out of a dangerous cold. Sorry, you were born into that insanity. Regarding cold recovery services, yes, there are thankfully many that health care providers and others can look towards. One is based in Colorado., has links to resources.
Starting point is 02:13:07 Anyone can use. It's called cultrecover.com. One word, cultrecover.com. It links to physician resources to help healthcare workers understand how to help someone recovering from cult abuse. There's a contact forum at the website. It's a little older looking. I'm not sure who will be replying.
Starting point is 02:13:23 It's just a good place to start for well-sourced info. Then there's culteducation.com. They have a great directory of therapists who specialize in cult deprogramming in a variety of states, the US, and in several other countries. There's also families against cultteachings.org. They have an active Facebook page, links to lots of resources, a phone number to call for help, email address, et cetera. They seem like a good place to be able to reach out and talk to someone.
Starting point is 02:13:47 If you're here in this and you think you might be in a cult, but are not sure, please also you can go to cult-escape.com. They have a cult test there. So, hail name Rod Goodluck. Links to all of these are in the show notes and the show notes are available with every episode in the TimeStuck app. They don't, we can't create links the same way in a variety of third party players, but if you're really interested in this,
Starting point is 02:14:08 you can go to, you know, download the Time Suck app, go to this episode, go to the little dots in the top right-hand corner, at least on that's a my phone, how it looks, you press options, there's, you know, download the show notes, download them, then there's, you know, clickable links in the PDF. Next up, some heart and some laughs
Starting point is 02:14:24 from Super Sucker Christopher Sarver, right? Hello, Suck Master General, Albert Fish Peanut Butter Approver and Chiquitillo's Rasting Coach. I'm going to a big fan of your comedy for years, The Sucker for a while and a newly hatched space, Lister, thank you. Just writing to thank you and the bad magic team for amazing shows, born from those brilliant minds. I'm thankful for your videos which help me not only get to the long nights of working, but also while on long drive for playing games. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 02:14:46 I'm a 23 year old meat sack who lost her dad when I was nine. It had some obvious effects on me. And for many years after when I was in my late teens, really, 20s, I would escape to comedy. I was always happy to hear your soothing voice come up or whether it be about slinging spoons or waking up bears that help when I was in some dark places. I thought to give time, stuck a chance, fell in love and listen almost every day on shuffle. After taking a two year personal mental health vacation, I'm getting ready to make a big step in my life and move to Ohio.
Starting point is 02:15:09 Two of my friends, one of which is like a sister to me, extended a great offer, so a little shout out to Foxy and CJ. Thanks for being great friends. Now to finish up this long ass email, I also do introduce my mom to the suck with the BSU episode. Yeah, that behavioral, or the behavioral, oh my God, I can't remember the, my own acting behavioral, behavioral science, you know, that's the FBI, serial killer unit.
Starting point is 02:15:31 Because she didn't want to listen to anything too graphic. She was doing great laughing along, being fascinated with some of the facts. Well, she was doing great right up until the interview with Mr. Fish. I completely forgot about this. And she sat there confused. And if you can't remember listening right now,
Starting point is 02:15:43 that's when I made up an interview that the BSU had with Albert Fish who was long dead before they even were showing up and just said a bunch of horrible things. I completely forgot about this. She sat there confused when that sweet creamy peanut butter was making it's always appreciated cameo. She sat there just asking, what is he talking about? And after explaining Albert's particular taste and snacks, she sat there with her mouth wide
Starting point is 02:16:03 open and I couldn't help but giggle. And then she said, okay, that's enough. And we sat for a couple minutes in silence. Anyway, starting out sorry for the long email, keep doing what you do. It's a shit. I wouldn't change the things. Three out of five stars and certainly a new member of the space of their army, Christopher. Well, thank you, Christopher. Oh, Mr. Fish. Mr. Fish is a good litmus test for this podcast. If you can handle fish, you can probably handle all the episodes. You know, but hot up a cider, peanut butter, a lot of fat bear bottoms, bankings, too much for some, gluten some moms. Mother, why?
Starting point is 02:16:34 Just pipe down. Let me have a look at that sexy windpipe. Glad you're having fun, the life's getting better. Best luck on this next exciting stage of your personal journey. Now, new sucker Evelyn got Cummins lot hard during what seems to be her first and possibly last episode time sucks, right? I was listening to the latest time suck episode at work and we aren't allowed to have headphones in, but we are allowed to listen to our music through our
Starting point is 02:16:56 phones. I figured, ah, a podcast couldn't be so bad. I'd already listened to about 75% of it and it had them in vulgar. The first sense I hear when I play it out loud is, nice try, wet pussy. Immediately turned it off and hung my head in shame. Yep, that was the Christian missionary training core, called the recent one there. Yes, Evelyn, time's like it's not to be shared mixed company. Definitely more of a private affair.
Starting point is 02:17:21 Definitely not a podcast that is going to be rewarded with a great job from very many human resource directors for listening to it at work. I hope you do continue to listen. Just alone now. I blame Luciferian entirely for what happened to you. Next up, something short and sweet, from grateful and thoughtful sucker Brandon Walker,
Starting point is 02:17:36 who writes, Dan, I just wanted to say thank you. I listened to the pop award suck and before it was even finished, I called my grandfather, had the opportunity to tell him how much I love him, how much I truly appreciated, how much he helped me when I was growing up. Then I got the news of my grandfather past Twitter this morning. Thankfully, the last conversation I was able to have
Starting point is 02:17:53 with him was a very loving one following the pop award episode. Since then, I told every person when they mentioned their grandparents to do exactly that, thank you. Well, thank you, Brandon, man, you filled my heart up with that one. Good on you for actually doing that, not just thinking it. So glad you took the time to make sure your popping new, what you meant thank you, Brandon. Man, you filled my heart up with that one. Good on you for actually doing that, not just thinking it.
Starting point is 02:18:06 So glad you took the time to make sure your popping newity meant to you, outside of food and shelter. Isn't that what we all really want, right, to know that our life matters, know that we've helped, you know, been loved, appreciated, hail Nimrod to you, sir.
Starting point is 02:18:17 And last update this week from a sweet stack, born and raised in a town, I have shit on so many times, aggressively, the pride of battle mountain Nevada, Blair Keller writes, the Iristan slave Lucifina, profit in Nimrod and Poops Cooper for Bojangles. My husband got me started on the suck about a year ago and I'm a devout follower of Nimrod now.
Starting point is 02:18:35 With a new baby girl sleep, it's hard to come by, but I choose the suck over sleep most days. Oh, thank you. I started the beginning, I've been slowly working my way through the suck, just finished a Chernobyl episode. Please tell me, I'm not the only succington who heard you say, toinkoss instead of coin toss. When you talk about walking through a door and nuclear weapons plant, it says, do not enter.
Starting point is 02:18:52 I had to rewind the episode several times, figure out it was a new, if it was new mom's sleep deprivation or actual mush mouth that I was hearing, mush mouth be damned. Anyways, thanks for reading. We look forward to seeing you in San Francisco in October. About my husband take us to your show as an early birthday gift, which took him in his buddy all of 10 hours to figure out what we were going to do. Now we both own a plethora of time sucks. So I can't wait to wear it to the show with our fellow space lizards.
Starting point is 02:19:12 Your most humble spaces are by marriage. Blair PSI was born and raised in battle mountain Nevada and would be curious for an explanation as to why you hate it so much. Blair first off congrats on the baby. Second, thank you for listening supporting supporting the podcast, coming to a show. Third, yeah, I'm sure I fucked those words up. I'm sure I said, Twine Coss. At fourth, why have I been so unkind about a mountain?
Starting point is 02:19:35 Well, I've traveled around a ton. I've driven around literally every state in the US over the years doing shows. So many shows, you know, 20 years of stand-up touring, and that touring did bring me through battle mount one time. No show just out there in between shows, back around 2002, 2003, and I just kind of said, it just stood out for having a pretty powerful mixture, mixture of not a lot to do city wise,
Starting point is 02:19:56 and not a lot to do outdoorsy wise, and it just seemed pretty beat up and rough. I heard that two-thirds of the jobs had left the area when some mines shut down when I was traveling through there, and I'm just, I'm not a big desert guy, much of Northern Nevada, Southern Idaho, parts of Northwestern Utah, Eastern Oregon, very desert-y and desolate, battle-mountain specifically surrounded by very little,
Starting point is 02:20:16 just in the ways of civilization or vegetation. Also, there's not gonna be many concerts, there's not really museums, movie theater, and just not a lot of amenities, scenic vistas, a lot of the businesses were boarded up. I'm gonna be awesome. I felt like the setting for a post-apocalyptic movie. But I did more research because I felt a little bad
Starting point is 02:20:38 with your email and I snooped around on Google Maps and it does seem to have a nice Mexican restaurant. So I'm gonna give some props to El Aguila Rial and the Al Club and Casino seems to have very nice pancakes based on some Yale pictures. So you could be worse. Good tacos, good pancakes and I'm, you know,
Starting point is 02:20:53 probably, probably something else there that also as well. I'm glad you like it. And I'm gonna sneak out these updates like I snuck out of Battle Mountain never to return many years ago. Thanks for listening to another Bad Magic Productions podcast, Misex. Please not tell anyone you've been the victim of an elaborate illuminati cloning
Starting point is 02:21:18 conspiracy this week because it's nonsense. Don't try to convince anyone they're forced you to write hit songs just either write hit songs because you want to and can Or if you can't just keep on sucking Oh, yeah Oh yeah. Fucking revolution. No what? I mean, God, if you listen to it enough, you guys can kind of see what he's doing there. He's actually really innovating.
Starting point is 02:21:53 I mean, he's okay, okay, he's, yeah, no, he's got a good voice. Yeah, JK, it's fucking garbage. Please, go away, stop! Stop! You're ruining your childhood movies for me! garbage please go i stop stop you're ruining your show the movies for me

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