Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 259 - Lady Diana: The People's Princess's Life, Death, and Conspiracies

Episode Date: August 30, 2021

Let's get royal, Meatsacks! Born a minor aristocrat, Diana Spencer grew up to become one of the most famous people of all time. For years, she was the most photographed person in all of England if not... the entire world. The tabloids adored her. Why? She appeared to be the real-life version of possibly the most popular fantasy ever - the fabled princess swept up by Prince Charming! But her life was no fairy tale. She suffered mental health issues, was married to a man who never loved her, bullied by royal protocol, and relentlessly hounded by the paparazzi from the time she began to date Prince Charles all the way until her untimely death. Today we learn what it means to be a modern, British royal, how the royalty is a far cry from what it once was in the UK, what Diana's life was really like, and we explore conspiracies around her death in a blue-blood, tabloidy edition, of Timesuck. We're donating $15,000 this month to The Wildland Firefighter Foundation. Go to https://wffoundation.org/ to learn more. Watch the Suck on YouTube: https://youtu.be/UUXvmvjA9lAMerch - https://badmagicmerch.com/ Discord! https://discord.gg/tqzH89v Want to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever current page hasn't been put in FB Jail :) For all merch related questions/problems: store@badmagicproductions.com (copy and paste) Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcast Wanna become a Space Lizard? We're over 10,000 strong! Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcast Sign up through Patreon and for $5 a month you get to listen to the Secret Suck, which will drop Thursdays at Noon, PST. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. You get to vote on two Monday topics each month via the app. And you get the download link for my new comedy album, Feel the Heat. Check the Patreon posts to find out how to download the new album and take advantage of other benefits.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Diana, Princess of Wales. Oftentimes called the People's Princess, born into a wealthy, aristocratic family with strong royal ties, Diana grew up assuming her future would be pretty damn bright. Of course she assumed that. She was raised essentially to be married to someone with royal blood, to be married to a high born man of means, but she couldn't have known or assumed dreamt maybe that she would actually marry the Prince of England, heir to the British throne and become the British commonwealth's princess. That's exactly what happened. She first caught Prince Charles' eyes a teenager
Starting point is 00:00:29 when he was of all things dating her older sister. It would appear to be a sweet and dreamlike royal romance would begin later, one that would capture the world's attention. That seemed to have it all, to be living a fairy tale, a literal prince. The off-romanticized prince charming had picked her, her foot, had fit the fabled glass slipper. And she looked like a fairy tale princess.
Starting point is 00:00:49 She was young, elegant, fashionable, beautiful, and now she was an actual princess. But fairy tales don't often actually really come true, do they? Yes, Diana was becoming a princess, but she was not becoming the happy bride of a devoted and love-struck prince charming. Their fairy tale romance was fake. From the beginning, a show put on for the cameras to uphold the all-important picture perfect and profitable image of the British royal family. Beneath the facade of their romance, behind the beautiful clothes and jewels and the extravagant
Starting point is 00:01:17 wealth was a woman who was sick and suffering. Diana wed a man whose heart and bed already belonged to someone else, someone the king and queen had deemed an unsuitable wife for their prince. Diana's happy, heavily publicized honeymoon was spent largely in tears. She'd married a man who she didn't really love because she didn't really know him, a man who wished he was married to someone else. And now Diana worked hard to hide her true feelings from the media frenzy that surrounded her. She'd sacrifice any hope for a private life once she'd said yes to Prince Charles's marriage proposal.
Starting point is 00:01:47 The British media and paparazzi would now watch her every move for the rest of her life, often waiting for her to make a mistake, looking for suspected chinks in the royal family's armor. Diana herself said towards the end of her life after her marriage had ended. I seem to be on the front of a newspaper every single day, which is an isolating experience.
Starting point is 00:02:05 And the higher the media puts you, places you, the bigger the drop. The royal fantasy would end for Diana in divorce, scandal, and shame, which would then bring even more paparazzi into her life. And then her life would end in tragic and controversial fashion. Her death due in large part to the paparazzi,
Starting point is 00:02:21 she could never seem to get away from. And the early morning hours of August 31st, 1997, when Diana was killed in a car crash in Paris, a car driven by a man trying to escape from the chasing paparazzi. Immediately, Diana became immortalized forever as the people's princess, a mother, a fashion icon, and a beautiful pure soul corrupted and damaged by the royal family, and the media attention that came with being a beautiful and beloved princess. Wild theories immediately began to swirl around her death. Many of them hinged on the royal family having her killed because she knew too many of their
Starting point is 00:02:53 secrets, or because of their supposed fear that she was going to marry an Egyptian Muslim man, that she might even be pregnant with his child. Today we explored the life and death of Princess Dye, some of the history and inner workings of the British royal family, the family that shaped her life and gave her the fame, that led directly to her death, and conspiracies around that followed her death in a royal rule-breaking, scandalous, and conspiratorial addition of Time Suck. to time suck. You were listening to time suck. Happy Monday, meat sacks. I'm Dan Cummins, the suck master, suck nasty.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Queen Elizabeth's a dreamer chrome harvester. Todd's clone aid intern. And you are listening to time suck. Hail Nimrod. Say right where you are Lucifina, praise good boy, Bojangles and glory be to triple and we've never needed you more. Big thanks to everyone who came out to the Texas shows, Holy shit, you are spoiling me, making it real easy to return to stand up.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Also, my opener Mary Santora killed it. Her new standup is so damn good. San Antonio Houston and Dallas, such a blast. Didn't even need to look at my set list anymore by the end. I feel like I'm basically back where I was before March 2020 when the last tour came to a halt. Thanks to Matt Best, Logan Stark, and the rest of the crew at Black Rifle Coffee Company for having me on their podcast and to WillXX for putting some new income on my arm while
Starting point is 00:04:19 I was on the podcast while we talked about how it started to shit. What a good crew. They have their own San Antonio. Smart, no bullshit, critical thinking, empathetic, hard working, American lovin' dudes. Inspiring to chat with them. Not sure when that episode will come out. I hope and I had fun in Portland by the time you hear this,
Starting point is 00:04:35 looks like I will, looking forward to Philadelphia and Columbus, Ohio and September. More dates at dncomas.tv, you can find my Instagram, Facebook, now also a TikTok. Gotta be TikTokin' now. A very cool new time stock horizons, T in the store at BadMagicMurch.com. Another awesome design, design, design, from the mind of the art warlock. You can check out FUNCINE Bad Magic Gear at the shows as well.
Starting point is 00:04:59 See it in the wild. And last reminder that our wonderful charity the month for August is the Wildland Firefighter Foundation. And last reminder that our wonderful charity the month for August is the Wildland Firefighter Foundation proud to donate to that cause WF Foundation dot org to learn more. They're still fighting Sony fires so so many in the West. Hail Nimrod stay safe. Now let's get into some royal blood. But not the awesome hard rock power duo by that name from Brighton. Can those guys are still fucking good.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I'm amazed that the amount of sound that can come out of these two guys. Super talented, love them. Won't be talking about them today. Now we're talking about the British Royal family. They're Royal blood, of course. How did the current Royal family, Queen Elizabeth, and her brood come to be? How did Lady Diana Spencer become Diana Princess of Wales?
Starting point is 00:05:40 Charming the entire world with her beauty fashion for philanthropy, loveable personality? Let's dive into an overview of who Lady Di was followed by a bit of British royal history, followed by a timeline of Diana's life and an exploration, exploration of conspiracies that surrounded her death. Hence, follow the El Magistria. It thus commenced with some regal and nobucecing. So how did Diana earn her nickname, the People's Princess? Well, by winning the hearts of the overwhelming majority of the British public, most seemed to love her still. She was only 36 when she died.
Starting point is 00:06:15 She died 24 years ago now, but she's still very popular. Still has a mention worldwide name and image recognition. Still reference almost daily on the internet for a quote, her or action style of personality. Part of what made Diana so popular was the optics of what looked like a fairy tale romance with Charles, at least initially. She was young, beautiful. In relationship with a cultured older man older but not too old.
Starting point is 00:06:35 His balls didn't sag too far down still handsome. Not just any man, royal next in line for the British throne. Of course, this is going to make her popular. This is the real life version of the most popular. Right, one of the most popular, probably the most popular. Primarily female centric fantasies of all time. Think about how much the world loves the Prince Charming Fantasy, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Just look at only the Disney animated films dedicated to Princess, Fyneena Prince, Little Mermaid, 233 million box office earnings, what it came out in 1989, based on an old, I believe, I didn't write this in my notes, it's popping in my head now, but a Dutch folklore. And then the home release video along with merchandise sales contributed to Little Mermaid quickly generating
Starting point is 00:07:18 a total revenue of over a billion dollars. How much has it earned in the years since early 90s? I don't know, another billion, several more billion. It's still extremely popular. Beauty and the Beast made over 440 million of the box office when it came out in 1991 as a Disney remake. Then it was remade again in 2017 and that version quickly generated over 1.2 billion additional dollars.
Starting point is 00:07:42 There was the 2015 Disney Cinderella remake, earning over $542 million just at the box office, on and on and on. Think about all the princess related merch. Oh my God, when Monroe was younger, go to the target or wherever. There's just so much princess toys in the toy section. The books, the dolls, the dresses, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:08:03 How much traffic do stories like that drive to Disney theme parks to make billions more? And that's just like the Disney princess stuff. And just some of it. For a couple of years growing out, my sister Donna wanted to be a princess. We're like, we're little princess dresses. Of course she did.
Starting point is 00:08:17 For a couple years, my daughter, Monroe, wanted to be a princess as well. She dressed up like a princess once to go to Disneyland. I'll never forget it because she threw a giant fucking tantrum at the gates of Disneyland because I wouldn't let her walk in, had to take her in the stroller, but she was pretty hilarious to watch a furious, very angry princess. But yeah, princess has to be the most common fantasy for little girls, at least in the Western world, like by far.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I've dated women who have actually told me they want to be treated like a princess. I feel like that's a very common quote in a much more common sentiment, at least it was, you know, 20 years ago. Princess aspirations strongly embedded in our culture, essentially the angle of being a commoner, your average Jane and then a prince charming comes along and just stoops up and makes, you know, everything perfect, you know, picks you out of all the women in the world and takes care of your every need for ever and ever happily ever after That narrative even though Diana wasn't really a commoner that attached to her story to her life
Starting point is 00:09:12 Parsley, I think because so many actual commoners just wanted to see themselves in her story and I'm not a big fan of this fairy tale I didn't push my thoughts on all this to Monroe and ruin her princess phase when she was younger But I would talk to her about it now. She's 13. If she hadn't already, you know, let go of it. I think it's very tail encourages women to be weak and to long to be taken care of by a man and to teach his men to look for weak ass women to be taken care of. A true lose, lose.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Lose the phenol, so not a big fan. Does it mind being taken? She doesn't mind being taken care of by a man or being treated like a princess. That part's fine, but, you know, doesn't need it. Wants it to be known, she doesn't need that. She can take care of herself if she should show, if she should choose. But anyway, the Prince charming story, probably the most common little girl fantasy, maybe just female centric fantasy in the world.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Tons of popular princess fairy tales also come from the Middle East, Asia, Africa. I couldn't find any, you know, quickly, like South America, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was some equivalent. In the Western world in modern times, princess fantasies tended to have a British look to them because the British were running more of the world than anyone else. In the 1920, the British Empire covered 24% of the Earth's total land area either directly or through commonwealth influence. And then there were all the other countries like the US, whose culture directly tied to
Starting point is 00:10:26 England and its monarchy. They exported their culture and recent history more successfully than any other nation by far that at least that has a monarchy. And because of this, you know, British royal marriages and weddings, princes and princesses, extremely appealing to the international public for centuries. Back in March of 1863, newspapers around the world printed front page stories about the wedding celebrations of King Edward VII of England and Princess Alexandra of Denmark. Huge crowds lying the streets hoping to get a glimpse of the real life princess.
Starting point is 00:10:57 In 1923, wedding of Queen Elizabeth, the Queen mother, current Queen Elizabeth's mom, George VI, you know, her Queen Elizabeth's dad, also widely publicized as was Queen Elizabeth's mom, George the six, you know, her Queen Elizabeth's dad were also widely publicized as was Queen Elizabeth's wedding to Prince Philip in 1947. But in the 1940s media wasn't nearly as internationally pervasive as it would become, you know, in the 1980s. For example, less than 5% of American households had TVs in 1947, just 7,000 TVs sold that year. That crazy, just 7,000. In 1955, million TV sets are sold
Starting point is 00:11:28 and between 10 and 20% of American homes now contain a TV set. By 1978, nearly 75% of American households have a TV. And when Charles and Diana marry on July 29th, 1901, and estimated 750 million to one billion people watched on TV, up to a billion people watch their wedding is the most watched wedding in the history of the world like by far time magazine reported a splendid prince his beautiful princess a carriage a crowd fantasy come to life a dream riding
Starting point is 00:11:59 in stately progress through London except this moment in the ones that came before and after were real for all to observe. Diana became the first English woman to marry the heir apparent, first in line to the throne in 300 years. Previous Brides had long been from other nations. And England fell in love with one of their own. Just fuck yeah bro, she's one of us. And she seemed more like one of their own and compared to a lot of other royals. She was modern, seemed kind, came across as down to earth and approachable. She didn't seem stiff and unapproachable like Queen Elizabeth and many other royals.
Starting point is 00:12:31 She gave off less of a blue blood, reptilian shape, shifter, and dream of crome, harvest or vibe if you're a long time sucker and current on your conspiracy lore. She basically immediately became much more popular than her husband, who seemed stiff and aloof. The popularity discrepancy would quickly cause problems in their marriage actually, Charles well aware
Starting point is 00:12:49 that the people preferred his wife to him. And that was not the power dynamic he'd hoped for. Overall though the royal family loved the attention initially shed on Diana. They saw her as the perfect princess initially. The royal family viewed her as a wonderful public image asset and public image, this is so important today as a wonderful public image asset and public image. This is so important today. Huge for the royals and modern times.
Starting point is 00:13:08 It's fucking everything for them. The Prince Charming stuff, all those Disney movies and more great for royal business, keeping a high and regal profile is what keeps the British monarchy afloat. The position they now hold in British culture is so interesting to me. They haven't had any real political power in roughly two centuries. And their power has been waning actually for centuries before that. It's 99.9% symbolic now. The King or Queen is still technically the head of the state or head of state in the UK, but in name only. The Prime Minister runs the government. An elected official, the Prime Minister is a voted member of the House of Commons. The House of Commons is where legislation actually gets legislated.
Starting point is 00:13:45 The monarch privately advises the prime minister to some degree, but the prime minister doesn't actually have to listen to them. That doesn't have to take their advice. Legislation passed by a body of voted in representatives, not by a monarch, not by other nobility. One of the crown's most important responsibilities now is to be the official patron of over 600 charities. That is very cool.
Starting point is 00:14:04 But even this role, it's just about drawing attention to these charities, not actually deciding how to run them, how to fund them, with state money, or to even donate to them, just to show up and bring some attention to them. Show up at a gallery opening. Make a statement. Most of the royal families in come today
Starting point is 00:14:20 is totally dependent essentially on tourism, tourism driven by the image of being royal. They're a distant echo of what they used to be. A variety of properties collectively referred to as the crown estate, such as Buckingham Palace, charge tourists to enter and explore them. They sell stuff in their gift shops, that sort of thing. One of the biggest money makers, the past two years, they've been a variety of royal only fan accounts.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Prince Charles, Prince William, Kate Middleton, definitely Kate Middleton, Queen Elizabeth. The others, they all have only fans, adult content accounts, aka, they monetized nude picks, bathroom mirror selfies, gonzo porn, and that kind of stuff. I just read an article about how Queen Elizabeth sold more worn panties online in 2020 than anyone else in the world. It's fucking crazy. Prince Philip, before he died, Maiden sold his 37th annual fully nude calendar. Heavy on the dick. You can still pick it up at Walmart, Target, other retailers.
Starting point is 00:15:11 And you can't, that's fucking crazy. No, they don't have only fancy counts or sell panties or calendars. But their income is almost entirely dependent on their popular. I wish there was calendars like that out of there just for the humor angle. If people lost interest in the royal family, they would truly cease to exist as a royal
Starting point is 00:15:28 family. Right? The English public would just cry for them to have to abdicate the throne and they'd pass into legislation and they would just be gone. So they have a lot of financial interest and upholding a certain image of keeping the royal fairy tale very much alive. So again, Queen Elizabeth or husband, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, others, now they were ecstatic regarding the attention showered on Prince Charles and Lady Diana's wedding.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And then they were greatly and pleasantly surprised by the attention that continued to flow and afterwards. This was new and very much unexpected. Throughout royal family history, after a wedding took place, you know, the attention typically died down substantially, not this time, not during the TVH and not with Diana. The paparazzi and newspapers, right with all the tablets now, constantly tried to photograph down substantially, not this time, not during the TVH and not with Diana. The paparazzi and newspapers, right, with all the tablets now, constantly tried to photograph her and tablets are fucking huge in the UK. Much bigger than in America. We didn't know, like these daily tablets. The paparazzi, yeah, news papers, constantly tried to photograph her because
Starting point is 00:16:19 her image, you know, just sold more papers. In addition to being a princess, she was gorgeous. She'd make a lot of lists of the world's most beautiful people, beautiful princess who actually looked like a fairy tale version of a princess, noise, that sold papers, that sold stories. And then later when the press figured out her relationship with Charles was a sham when scandals began to appear, oh wow, well, those stories, they sold even better. Negative news. Always seems to beat out positive news, doesn't it? And this negative news was not the attention the royal family wanted. Not the fairy tale, they're trying to project.
Starting point is 00:16:49 The royals had no interest in the scandals, the tabloids loved. Tabloids loved the scandal so much. If one wasn't actually happening, they just create one. That's been their business model for a long time. They created one with the first one with Diana in February of 1982, less than a year into her marriage.
Starting point is 00:17:03 The paparazzi followed her and Charles to the Bahamas and photographed her with the bikini. She was pregnant with Prince William at the time. And Queen Elizabeth was furious. She called it the blackest day in the history of British journalism. Queen Elizabeth is bit dramatic. Blackest day?
Starting point is 00:17:18 And I would think they count to fallen soldiers during World War One or World War Two might have trumped Diana being, you know, photographs at the bikini, but whatever. Queen actually held an emergency meeting at the palace with British newspaper editors after these picks were leaked, and she ordered them to give Diana her privacy, but they did not listen because nobody really fucking got what she thinks. She doesn't actually hold any real power.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I love this. How odd, right? What a weird role the British Royals currently plays. That's an odd bit of public theater. Their main job is just to act royal. Whoever the fuck that means. Just Kobe partisan ribbon cutting ceremonies, speak kindly to some charities, hug some suffering kids, show up at some traditional events and say the traditional things. The Queen of England has more in common in many ways with a mall Santa than an actual world leader now. She's in the Stalgic symbol, a living relic. She's a pretend monarch, a bit of living cultural glue
Starting point is 00:18:07 that helps bind the present to the past and remind the people of the Commonwealth, how powerful the British Empire once was. So odd. Queen Elizabeth is like the Pope. If no one in the Catholic church actually gave a fuck with the Pope thought. And if the Pope had zero say over church affairs.
Starting point is 00:18:22 She's arguably more similar to a person paid to play the part of a princess at Disney world than to an actual queen of old. And in moments, like when she calls this emergency meeting and demands people listening to her, it feels like she's not entirely aware of the limits of her current role. God, I wish the transcript existed of that meeting. You shall not print another image or run another story without my express consent as your queen. I command that this degree be punished by death for those who do not follow it. And someone just like, I know thank you, you majesty. We're going to do
Starting point is 00:18:57 this with plays and run some more bikini pics. Thank you very much. Why Rupert Murder, how dare you defy me? Who do you think you are? I think I'm someone much more powerful than yourself, you majesty. Son makes a lot of money running those bikini pics. I came here not to apologize but to make an offer. Buy some nudes of Diana and if you're game, maybe some younger titty pics of yourself that you may be hiding. How dare you? God, the rest is filthy misgrint. I'm sorry, your majesty, but while very rude Mr. Murdoch's broken no loss. Well, at least take him away from me. I don't want him in my sight. I'm sorry, you're mad at me,
Starting point is 00:19:27 but he has a meeting with the Prime Minister in the same room in five minutes. He's asked you not to be a part of it, so I'm afraid I must escort you and you'll settle your little crown out of the room very shortly. Oh! Back to the precious Royal Image now.
Starting point is 00:19:38 The Royal Family has long list of rules and protocols that are expected to be followed in public and private. Think, think, go into a nice restaurant and be expected to know exactly which fork to use for which course times 10,000. So many fucking rules. So much protocol. Diana would soon become notorious for breaking these rules, which endeared her to the general public, but did not endear her to queen mummy to the royal family.
Starting point is 00:20:01 For example, Diana chose her own engagement ring from, wait for it, a catalog, like some common street stomp it, it's a wow, easy bow jangle. Stop whimpering, good boy. I know what's upsetting. Royal rings were typically custom made, but Diana wanted a different kind of ring. She wanted one that she'd already seen in the House of Draught and their jewelry collection catalog. And they are one of the crown jewelers,
Starting point is 00:20:25 but she didn't want all their custom ones. She was like, no, that one's cool. She chose a ring that was accessible to the public. Some common peasant could buy it. This displeased the royal family because they like to protect a much more unattainable image, they could give jewelry that was inaccessible to the general public.
Starting point is 00:20:44 They were above the common hordes. They were better than you. That's why you paid to come see their properties. That's why it meant something. When they showed up at the unveiling of some new important public worker, what not. You're being blessed by the presence of royalty. Not some fucking lady from down the street
Starting point is 00:20:57 who wore the same ring you did. They didn't want a royals, they're just like you. Image, huh. And I feel like this mindset makes more sense to British citizens than it does to Americans. We haven't had social classes in the States like those that have existed to various degrees in the UK for over millennium. We don't have a house all-orged.
Starting point is 00:21:12 We don't have dukes and duchesses, urls and countesses, vikounts and vikountesses, barons and baronesses, et cetera. British royals are still a powerful upper class in British society. The British aristocracy has far, far less political power than it once did, basically none. They can't stop bills from becoming laws anymore, like they, you know, still could as recently as 1911. Now they can just delay them, but they do own more than a third of all British land. Still, yes, over 33% still in the hands of the aristocrats and traditional landed gentry. So that gives them a lot of cultural weight and financial power. Still a lot of social cachet and being a Lord or a lady.
Starting point is 00:21:46 It means in all likelihood you grew up in wealth and privilege. Your family owns a lot of valuable land. Your bloodline can be traced back to kings and queens, if not in England, somewhere else in Europe. It means your social circle is full of other royalty and artists, politicians, industry leaders, etc. That's the people that that circle attracts. Maybe the closest thing to royalty we've ever had in the US
Starting point is 00:22:04 has been the Kennedy family. But their fame and prestige has been waning, I would say, for the past few decades quite a bit. Currently, this is my sound weird. I think the Kardashians are the closest thing we have in America, the British nobility, which is really fucking sad. A family famous now primarily for just being famous. A family you expect to take the most luxurious vacations, live in decadent and unattainable homes, drive the most expensive cars, where the biggest jewels, custom jewelry, date, other celebrities, et cetera, like being a Kardashian carries an association now with like a life of luxury. And just like we have been culturally fascinated with the Kardashians for years now, as far as tabloid coverage goes, or that type of coverage,
Starting point is 00:22:41 the British public has long been fascinated with the royals. So anyway, Diana got what Queen Elizabeth considered a basic white bitch wedding ring, and then she wrote her own vows and refused to say that she would obey Prince Charles. E.G.D. what's is happening? Diana then became the first British royal to give birth to a future monarch outside of a castle. She gave birth to both children at St. Mary's Hospital in 1982 and 1984 gross And she did you know other what the fuck was she thinking rebellious shit like naming her children And she actively participated in child rearing like she played with her kids you guys She sat down on the floor and she played with them like a common peasant and Please make sure you're sitting down. You listed this next part. I don't want anyone hurting themselves as they faint
Starting point is 00:23:26 She breastfed him. I feel lightheaded. Historically, royal babies don't get to suckle upon royal mommy's royal titties. The blue blood totas off limits. Why is that? Well, on word, body piercing. So I guess that's two words. Historically, British royal women
Starting point is 00:23:41 have had their nipples pierced and that can interfere with breastfeeding. British royal women, when they turn 18, expected to have a golden ring, but to each nipple, a dorn with whatever jewel is associated with their royal house. Queen Elizabeth, for example, has two five carrot emerald hanging under each of her nipples. She also has clit jewelry. She has a clit clip with the 15 carrot diamond from what I understand. I'm sorry. Of course, that's not it not gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. I'm gonna be a big deal. Noble women had wet nurses feed their babies. So they can more quickly resume noble duties. And because, you know, having a baby in your tit, well, that's common folks shit. Peasant titties are for babies. Royal titties are for, I don't know, ribbon cutting ceremonies or something. I'm not sure exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Maybe for noblemen to suckle upon while they pretend to be babies, since they have mommy issues, because they were often sent away to boarding schools for the entirety of their childhoods. I don't know what Royal titties are for. Dina also sent her children to public school instead of educating them with a private governess.
Starting point is 00:24:49 My God. They can have, you know, gotten common folk lice or scabies, what a terrible mother. William was the first heir to the British throne to ever attend public school as a young child, the Jane like a preschool, the minor, the Jane Miners Nursery School near Kensington Palace. And while it's called a public school, this is not exactly some YMCA program. Public in the sense that anyone can theoretically send their kids here if they have tuition money.
Starting point is 00:25:13 It cost around 850 pounds a year when preschool Prince Wayne went there. And that was when the Prime Minister made around 45,000 pounds a year, so cheaper than some other private schools for sure, but still spending. And it wasn't a governess, And that's what Queen Elizabeth expected. That's what the Queen mommy wanted. I'll just illustrate what Diana was unconventional. She was an unconventional mother by royal standards. Her children also ate fast food, right?
Starting point is 00:25:34 McDonald's, the public transportation, my God. I mean, with the security detail and just occasionally for show, but they were like jeans and baseball caps. They went whitewater rafting, rode bikes, dynamite them, wait in line at Disney, you know, with surrounded by security detail, like a common plebe, kind of, she also got down on their level and speaking to them, something no royal had ever done in public.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Her stiff upper lip was not nearly a stiff as the majority of the royal family wanted. She's famous for saying if someone might be nervous of you or if you're speaking to a very young child or sick person, get yourself on their level. Interesting that that was like an original thought for her within the royal family. I thought it was like, hmm, I don't like it. Dino also frequently showed off her shoulders.
Starting point is 00:26:12 She wore tight dresses, hollets, trumpet, chalapazzy, fluszy, other synonyms for hollet. She also liked to wear black, a color typically reserved for funerals to places where no one died. No, Dino didn't wear gloves to formal events. Didn't wear nude nail polish like the queen preferred, weird that Queen Elizabeth is waning
Starting point is 00:26:31 on nail polish colors. But again, image so important to their bottom line. She wore bold makeup, she even wore pants suits. She should have just set fire to Buckingham Palace. While she was up to all this other cultural sabotage. Much of the frustration and embarrassment of the Royal Family Dynas rule breaking only made Britain love her more.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Not only did people in the UK fall for her, whole world was obsessed with Diana. Anywhere she went, she seemed happy to be there. Wanted to talk to people in the crowds. She was more famous than members of the Beatles at the height of their fame and didn't even have to learn an instrument. It was had to be friendly and approachable and beautiful, right?
Starting point is 00:27:06 For you, few rules and be married to a prince. In the late 80s or early 90s, Diana's popularity, so already even more of it, she became more of an activist and philanthropist. This wasn't anything new for the royal family, but Diana seemed to throw a lot more passion into her support of various causes. And her actions were much more widely publicized than anyone before her. Her presence helped out charities immensely because of that coverage. One famous photo of her depicts her hugging a seven year old boy diagnosed with AIDS.
Starting point is 00:27:31 This was the height of the AIDS epidemic. An immediate spike in donations to AIDS related causes followed this photo's release. Stigma regarded AIDS noticeably lessened after this. She broke barriers during the time when people thought that just touching alone could transmit that disease. Diana's charity work included leprosy, domestic violence, AIDS, mental health, and the queen didn't like that shit either. She felt these charities came across as a little too depressing, a little too gritty and dirty. She wanted Lady Diary to spend her philanthropic time working for happier, lighter causes that didn't involve her taking photos with mutilated bodies and dying kids. Diana, why must you spend your days touching so many
Starting point is 00:28:09 pale children and not the good pale noble blooded kind the bad pale might might throw blood or cry no expensive blouse kind why can't you support a charity for say buy an aristocratic children new riding gear to use it boarded school so they don't have to carry the dreadful stuff from home, and bring it in and out of their limos. The more I read about Lady Dye's life or read about it, the harder became not to really dislike Queen Elizabeth. Lady Dye at one point was president or patron
Starting point is 00:28:34 of over a hundred charities. Another one that drew the eye of the royal family. I was her work with organizations dedicated to both dismantling landmines, and also no longer using them in battles going forward. On January 15th, 1997, Diana put on protective gear, walked across the landmine field in Hwambu Angola. She drew attention to the issue of banning landmines around the world. Her actions held propelled the United Nations' mind-band treaty, and the world family did not like this
Starting point is 00:29:01 because they felt her actions were too political, possibly divisive, though the princess shouldn't be seen putting on military gear and walking into a war zone. And of course, the public loved her still more for this. So much of what she did, loved by the public, disliked by the royal family. In 1995, she gave a BBC interview where she openly spoke about her marriage troubles, affairs, poor treatment at the palace. This was a huge blow to the royal image. their popularity dropped in these poles They would always do still do She was also open about her struggles with depression Bolivia self-harm or interview drew back to curtains hiding the dark secrets of the royal family turned public opinion against the rest of the monarchy and in favor of Diana
Starting point is 00:29:39 And when Diana died the public was devastated to lose their princess and death she then took on a saint-like image or veered even more. And after her death, Prime Minister Tony Blair called her the people's princess in a touching speech. Diana said she wanted to be queen of people's hearts, something she accomplished in spades. To this day, every year on the anniversary of her death, people pay tribute to the princess they grew up with and adored. And we will get to know this princess in more detail in today's timeline after we spend some time better understanding the British royal family she was a part of. The British monarchy has reigned kind of for well over a thousand years. And I say kind of because you know, the last two centuries they've reigned only in name. The first king of England was Atholistan, of the House of Wics, grandson of Alfred the Great, King of the West
Starting point is 00:30:25 Saxons, then King of the Anglo-Saxons. Atholistan is the 30th great-grand uncle of Queen Elizabeth, and he defeated the last Viking invaders and consolidated Britain into a unified country, then ruled from 929 to 939 CE. In the 11th century, the Normans took over Britain via Duke of Normandy, William the Conchora. He would reign from 1066 to 1087. And every English monarch who has followed William, including Queen Elizabeth II,
Starting point is 00:30:50 is considered a descendant of the Norman-born king. She is the 27 times great-granddaughter of King William. According to some genealogists, actually more than 25% of the English population disinally related to him. As our countless Americans was British ancestry, dude had at least nine kids, maybe 10, who went on to have
Starting point is 00:31:07 lots of kids themselves and so on and so on. For the time of William the Conqueror, AKA William the Bastard, all the way until 1702, the crown was passed down to the first born son. Then in 1702, Parliament passed the act of settlement. The act declared that when William the third died,
Starting point is 00:31:21 the title would pass down to Anne and the heirs of her body. For the first time, a woman could inherit the throne as long as there wasn't a male heir to take her place. And that rule wouldn't change until 2013, when the succession to the Crown Act was passed, and it shifted the line of succession to the first born heir, regardless of gender. And that's very nice and fair and right, but also who fucking cares, since the monarch has no real power.
Starting point is 00:31:41 And again, it's the right thing to do, but just would have meant more, you know, if it would have happened a few centuries earlier. Interestingly is the power of the crown began to wane politically, beginning way back in 1215 actually with the magna carda, which basically stopped the king from just doing whatever the fuck the king wanted to do to his nobles and peasants. Not everyone had, you know, now everyone had rights and he couldn't just whimsically lop their heads off. And some of that would still go on, but you know, I had to go through some fucking rigmar
Starting point is 00:32:04 old, you know, dog and pony show to get it done. As the powerway, image became more and more important. If they didn't have as much real power, you know, they wanted to hold on as firmly as possible to the illusion of power. And that led to the passage of the Royal Marriages Act of 1772. It prescribed the conditions under which members of the royal family could contract a valid marriage
Starting point is 00:32:24 in order to guard against marriages that would diminish the status of the royal house Can't diminish the status of their mascots For the next 250 years Commoner marriages were almost nonexistent Prince Charles would be the first heir to the throne to marry a commoner and two and a half centuries when he married Diana The public loved Diana for technically being a commoner. She's one of us Diana, the public loved Diana for technically being a commoner. She's one of us, but she was commoner in title only. She was raised as a royal and really, she absolutely was a royal.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I'll make that clear in the timeline. She was not the daughter of a coal miner working in the gas station or something when Prince Charles met her, right? When you know when you met her, she wasn't exactly wearing like a motorhead tank top, scratch your new English rose tattoo on the top of her tit, you know, with long fake nails, asking if you needed some matches to go along with his pack squares was like that at all The current royal family is now known as the House of Windsor They succeeded the House of Hanover and Queen Victoria died on January 22nd 1901 the Windsor Monarchs include Edward the 7th
Starting point is 00:33:19 George the 5th Edward the 8th George the 6th Elizabeth the 2nd the fifth and with the eighth George the sixth Elizabeth the second. Been the Queen says 1952 longest raining monarch ever by six years and counting. She just will not die. The current era of course, Elizabeth's son Charles Prince of Wales. Charles is he and Diana's son Prince William Duke of Cambridge. Prince Charles the longest heir apparent in British royal history. Queen Elizabeth 95 years young. How does she do it? Well, in a word of Drenacrom. It's all that illuminati Drenacrom. She's drinking.
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Starting point is 00:34:57 Please note that availability will vary based on your location since whip with Drenacrohn edition is illegal as fuck every word of the Portugal and Netherlands. Huh. Off your new list in your... Don't even worry about that. You never you never heard that. Just forget about it. Forget forget about it. Let's get back to the narrative. God dang. Uh, Queen Elizabeth, they've part of the house of uh, it's part of the house of Windsor. House of Windsor has an accomplished much as far as uh, rulers go again because they never really ruled.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Uh, they've only had ceremonial rules and got roles in government. After the parliament act was passed in 1911, like I mentioned earlier, the House of Lords lost the last real political power they had, the ability to veto legislation. Now, now they can only delay it, which is funny to me. Now they can just be like, I don't like it. And then the House of Commons, 650 actual elected officials can be like, we don't fucking care. All right, then, carry on. During Elizabeth's reign, there's actually been talk at numerous points of abolishing the monarchy altogether. Beginning in the late 1960s, British polls during that time revealed that a majority of
Starting point is 00:35:53 people believed that the monarchy was an out of touch and a chrism, a needless and useless relic of a bygone era. To try and improve their image, the royal family participated in a 1969 TV documentary titled Royal Family to open up more to the public and the response was divided. Ever since there have been occasional grumblings calling for the monarchy to be abolished, have them abdicate the throne. If that ever happened, the Windsor family would lose a lot of their assets. Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle, they don't actually own a lot of these properties anymore. They're owned by a trust of sorts.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And should the royal family ever lose the royal titles, ownership of those properties anymore. They're owned by a trust of sorts. And should the royal family ever lose the royal titles, ownership of those properties would revert to the state. Queen Elizabeth does privately still own a lot of land though, such as Balmoral castle and the Scottish Highlands in the Scottish Highlands and Sandrineham a state in North Lake. So she's going to be fine She and her, whoever's in her wills are gonna be fine if that happens. They would rather not lose their titles though. Rather not lose a lot of their assets.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And one way they could do that would be through too many scandals, right? If they became a bunch of rude trashy folks, showed up for official duties in sweatpants and crocs and graphic t-shirts with like three wolves, howling at the moon on them. If they burped and scratched their asses, starting public speeches, if they pissed on the lawn of Buckingham Palace or flashed their pierced tits around winter castle, and not just
Starting point is 00:37:08 on their only fans accounts, that they don't have. They would very likely be abolished realizing that my only fans accounts, jokes may not last very long. Maybe incredibly dated in a month or so after this episode drops. If they, if only fans go through that adult content band, they've been taking a lot of heat online for proposing. But they seem to be turning their back on the horse they wrote in on it, so to speak. Anyway, when Queen Elizabeth worries about what Lady Diana is saying or doing, some of that concern is actually very valid in the, uh, interest of self preservation. This despite
Starting point is 00:37:41 it, making her seem pretty hateable sometimes. They're hanging out by fucking thread over there. Appearances are everything for them now and Queen Elizabeth did not care for the appearance Diana often projected. Okay, now that we've laid out some cultural context and historical background for today's tale and its star, let's really dive into the details of Diana's life or marriage with Charles and her tragic death in today's timeline. Right after a real sponsor break. Thanks for listening to sponsors that have helped grow our
Starting point is 00:38:05 business so much, BeatSax. We try to place him at a point that doesn't disrupt the narrative and we're lucky to have the sponsors we do ones we believe in. Now let's take it to the most royal timeline we have ever put together and really get to know the people's princess. On November 14th, 1948, Prince Charles, Philip, Arthur, George, his born at Buckingham Palace. Prince Charles was going to become the longest monarch in waiting in British history. Dude, still waiting. His immortal lizard mom just won't die. She just keeps drinking that whipple.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Charles will soon have three younger siblings. Princess Anne will be born August 15th, 1950. Prince Andrew born February 19th, 1960. Prince Edward born March 10th, 1964. Prince Andrew of his name sounds more familiar than Anne or Edward, is because his name was tied to the Jeffrey Epstein, underage masseuses, esc escort, sexual abuse scandal. prominent Epstein accuser Virginia Dufrey has sued him over allegations of rape and sexual
Starting point is 00:39:12 abuse when she was only 17. He's been away from, you know, royal public duties from almost two years now because the links to his old party buddy Epstein, two were friends for over a decade at least. Queen Elizabeth, not pleased with baby boy Andy's bullshit. That's why he remains in royal timeout. And there used to be known more for being married to another beloved royal, Fergie, aka Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York.
Starting point is 00:39:34 She was my tabloid favorite as a kid. Simply because just being totally honest, I just thought she was super fucking hot. I knew nothing about her, other than she was a sexy redhead. I still think she was a very sexy redhead. Hailer's to Fina. Fergie and Andrew had a very sexy redhead. Hailer's Daphina. Fergan Andrew had a heavily publicized divorce.
Starting point is 00:39:48 The tabloids loved it. The queen again did not. Her two oldest boys bringing her so much disappointment. If she could remain married to Prince Philip for 73 years until his death, a man who looks a lot like Skeletor from he, man, for the last 30 years or so of his life, why couldn't they keep it together? Her baby boy, Prince Edward Earl of Wessex, he is kept a pretty low profile.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Mainly does philanthropic work now. Mummy probably loves him the best. Only daughter Anne, the Princess Royal, 16th and line to the throne. That doesn't really matter anymore. She has also been divorced. Yeek! Other than that though, no real scandals. The Princess Royal has been referred to as the Royal Family's trustiest anchor, beacon
Starting point is 00:40:24 of good old fashioned public service, having carried out over 20,000 engagements related to public service since her 18th birthday. She also at one time would date Andrew Parker Bowles, Bowles, I think the man who would marry the woman Prince Charles loved and cheated on Daniel with Camilla Shand, later Camillas. Now Camilla duchess of Cornwall. I don't know why I'm hesitant on our name now. I had it in my head earlier. Now I can't decide if it's bulls or boughs. I wanna say bulls because boughs,
Starting point is 00:40:53 well, that's not a great connotation. Mary to Prince Charles since 2005. So that's a quick overview of Charles and his siblings. On February 6th, 1952, Charles's grandfather, George VI passes away. The king, his mother now becomes Queen, which means the ages three Charles became heir to the British throne, and he's been waiting ever since because mother refuses to die. Must they put a head on your hair in a stick to become King mother? Charles took on the title of Duke of Cornwall under a charter of King Edward III from 1337. In the Scottish peerage system, he takes on the titles Duke of Rosset, Earl of Kerrick,
Starting point is 00:41:29 Baron Renfrew, Lord of the Isles, and Prince and Greatest Lord of Scotland. All these fucking titles! So many of them. For so many of these royals, all left over from so many marriages between royals, so many bloodlines keep track of to see who's heir to the fucking which thing the Duke of this, the countess of that, just bunch of political shant's heir to the fucking which thing the Duke of this account is of that Just bunch of political shenanigans the monarchy now can just bestow honorary titles the time goes on as well England there's so many period systems for these titles English England. Excuse me has its own period system And that's those are titles created before
Starting point is 00:41:59 1707 and then great Britain has a period system and that's titles created between 1707 and 1801. Scotland has a peerage system. Titles created before 1707 as well. Ireland has one. Mostly titles created before 1801, but some new ones, and then the UK over all has one, and those are titles created since 1801.
Starting point is 00:42:19 So many titles. It is absurd at this point. It just creates a shit ton of confusing, public like ancestry dot com proof of lineage bullshit that almost no one fucking cares about anymore at least no one outside of the u.k. uh... on june second nineteen fifty three queen Elizabeth is officially
Starting point is 00:42:35 coordinated as pretend ruler of england trials as four is a governess until the age of eight that point is parents aside to go to a private school instead of having a personal tutor at the palace. And this is a tiny bit scandalous. Weird to Queen Elizabeth would later get mad at Diana for putting her kids in school. When she did the same thing, just not quite as young
Starting point is 00:42:53 because that was new. Charles would be the first ever heir apparent to attend school with non-royals at the age of eight or older. On November 7th, 1956, Charles started attending Hill House school in West London. He's within that haunting of Hill House show Netflix, but I love him. They're playing soccer encouraged by the headmaster who said on the soccer field, he would not be treated like a prince. Just go out there and be like just any other boy. September of 1957, Charles was sent to a boarding school at, it's called the Cheam School,
Starting point is 00:43:20 Preparatory School, and, uh, headly, over 20 miles from London, shipped away so young, not even quite nine when he started going there. His father, Prince Philip, attended the same school, but then that feels super young. I mean, one thing if your parents don't have the means to raise you full time for some reason, you need to use ship you away since, uh, they can't like work and raise you or something, or it makes sense if you have special needs or behavioral problems, perhaps, but here like, when you have parents that do have the time to raise you, the time to support you, and then they still ship you off. I mean, it's very prestigious school, but it just seems so cold to me. I feel like that's gonna fuck you up a bit emotionally.
Starting point is 00:43:53 1958, Queen Elizabeth, titles her son, Prince of Wales, and Earl of Chester. Gives it some more time. He didn't have enough titles. Ah, look at that portal, Shlub. He's only got like 17 titles. That's why he cries all the time. He's got to give him a couple more titles. He's now nine years old. July 1st, 1961, Diana Spencer is born at Parkhouse and send, send him Norfolk. Her full title of birth is the honorable Diana Frances Spencer. She's not one of the common folk. Her dad
Starting point is 00:44:20 is Edward John Spencer, Vi Count Allthrupp. Vi Count is a courtesy title here, given to a titleist member of the nobility, but when his father died, so when Diana's grandfather died, her dad becomes Earl Spencer, which is a hereditary title. Now he's a member of the House of Lords. Edward was very close to the royal family as well,
Starting point is 00:44:40 serving as an equity, basically a royal squire and charge of making sure other people are taking great care of the King of Queens, fancy stable of horses. Diana's mother was Francis Ruth Burke Roche, Vi Countis, Althop, and Dottrova Barrett. She was a confidant of the current Queen Elizabeth's mother, Queen Elizabeth I, the current Queen Elizabeth II. Both Diana's parents extremely friendly with the king and queen. Diana's parents married in June 1954. The queen and Prince Philip attended the Spencer's least parkhouse then part of Queen Elizabeth's
Starting point is 00:45:12 estate, a big noble home, one of several on luxurious 20,000 acre. Sandra no estate. Queen Elizabeth has spent holidays up to two months a year at this estate for entire life. Her father died at this estate. He loved it. Growing up dying a plate with Charles as younger siblings Prince Andrew Prince Edward The Spencer family not only lived on a very exclusive royal land a big level up from a gated community They were also wealthy Very wealthy themselves thanks to centuries of profitable sheep farming and wool trade
Starting point is 00:45:40 An ancestor acquired an aristocratic title from James I and 1603 In 1765 a Spencer was granted an urldom. Diana's ancestors went on to become some of the knights of the Gata, privy counselors, a first lord of the Admiralty. She was also related to Charles II and James II to illegitimate relationships. Her family once helped install King George I on the throne of the 1700s, according to Diana's friend Rose Moncton. Whenever she was feeling down, Diana would tell herself, remember, Yolra Spensa, like her family's name held power and prestige, not a commoner. Only technically a commoner
Starting point is 00:46:15 because she was not born a Duke Marques Earl Vy count or Baron. I guess you know, Baroness. However, she was an aristocrat from an extremely wealthy family, right? She was directly related to people who did hold these titles. And I think I keep beating that drum because, you know, but only being casually familiar with her growing up, I just assumed that she was some commoner because the press loved to sell that narrative because it fit the beloved fairy tale. During the holidays, the spent your children were sent
Starting point is 00:46:39 to visit the royals and do things like watch Chitty, Chitty Bang, Bang and their private theater on their estate. Sounds fucking awesome. Growing up in Parkhouse, Diana had a governess, a house cook, a butler. All the staff had their own private cottages on the massive property. And her family had massive property elsewhere as well that I'll get into it a little bit. Like it's crazy how big some of these are states are. Diana had two older sisters, one younger brother, Lady Jane Fellows, Lady Sarah, McColkadale,
Starting point is 00:47:04 and Charles Spencer, ninth Earl Spencer. Sarah was born in 1955, Jane in 1957, and then Charles, you know, a little bit later, 1964. Diana while growing up with money and privilege, she did not grow up in a happy home. Her parents argued fought often, would separate in 1967. One of Diana's early childhood memories was of her hiding behind a door and watching her father slap her mother across the face Why they didn't get along as uncertain?
Starting point is 00:47:28 Dying in her siblings could never ask their parents about the problems They remember their mother often crying. They constantly had new nannies. What's going on there? Streaming nannies domestic turmoil brought a fair amount of instability to Diana's life You never had a constant support system Additionally eating disorders ran in the family. Dianist sister Sarah would suffer from anorexia. Dianist would experience severe bulimia growing up. Not a great social class to be born into
Starting point is 00:47:52 and also have some kind of body dysmorphic eating disorder, I imagine. I wonder how being born into a noble family, how much it fed into developing anorexia bulimia. I mean, the pressure to look picture perfect had to have been immense. You're expected to look a certain way, uphold your noble family name, you gotta be beautiful,
Starting point is 00:48:11 have perfect manners, have a slim figure, no wrinkles in your clothes, no scuffs on your shoes, dress fashionably, but not too fashionably. Look attractive, but not overly sexual. Lady Diner's sister's expected to fit inside a very narrow little box. I'd fucking hate that. The money would not be worth it to me if I had to fit inside a very narrow little box. I fucking hate that.
Starting point is 00:48:28 The money would not be worth it to me if I had to become a slave to that royal image. Backing up a bit to reconnect with Charles now since his story is obviously so so tied to hers. In April of 1962, the Prince turned 13 and begins his first term at Gordonston, a boarding school way up in Scotland. And another school his father had attended before him must carry on the royal legacy. Four years later, 1966, Charles spent six months as an exchange student at Timbertop, remote outpost of the G-long Church of England, grammar school, and Melbourne, Australia. Seven years later, 1973, he'd say he'd say his time at Timbertop was the most enjoyable part of his whole education. Current UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson actually took a gap here working at Tim Tempertop as a
Starting point is 00:49:06 teaching assistant 1983. Charles would return from Australia to Gordonston for his final year was appointed head boy. He took his A levels and there into being history of scene French and distinction in an optional history paper. He did good doesn't many. In 1967, Charles attends college at Cambridge University to study archeology, anthropology, at Trinity College. He changed his major to history for the second part of his bachelor's degree. 1970, he finishes his degree with a two-two classification, which means from what I understand that he graduated with a lower division of second-class honors, so not the top of his class, but didn't
Starting point is 00:49:39 barely scrape by either. The same year, Diana's parents divorced. She's just six years old, her father wins primary custody of the children. Their marriage would officially dissolve two years later in 1969. Understandably, the custody battle, which was reported to be brutal, was traumatizing to Diana and her siblings. Spencers would continue to live with their father at Parkhouse. In 1968, when she said Diana attends a preparatory school, Riddlesworth Hall, about 30 miles from San Dune. This was an elite boarding school for wealthy families to send their daughters to. On July 1st, 1969, Diana's eighth birthday, Charles, is invested as Prince of Wales by
Starting point is 00:50:13 the Queen, which basically means, you know, they put on a ceremony. Pomp and circumstance, traditionally, the heir of the British throne is known as the Prince of Wales. Why? Tradition. So much of this stuff is just tradition. According to tradition, since 1301, the Prince of Wales, why? Tradition, so much of this stuff is just tradition. According to tradition, since 1301, the Prince of Wales has usually been the eldest living son.
Starting point is 00:50:28 If and only if he's also the heir apparent of the king or queen of England. King Edward I started this tradition. Basically, as we respect you, please don't make trouble. Just remain under our thumb, little nod to Wales. Because the crown of England had annexed Wales recently in 1284. Before the investor, as a sign of respect,
Starting point is 00:50:46 it seems Charles spent a term at the University College of Wales at Aburus, Swiss. This is double. Aburus, Swiss. Something like that. Learning to speak Welsh. Welsh words are really tricky, I think. March 8th, 1971, Charles flew himself to the Royal Air Force,
Starting point is 00:51:06 Cranwell and Lincoln Shur. Lincoln Shur, I got that one, to train as a jet pilot. Shur, not child, people, not hobbits, I'm learning. Now an adult Prince Charles had a lot of pressure on him, kind of. He had no real pressures. He didn't have to worry about where his next meal was coming from. I wanted to do it if he got sick,
Starting point is 00:51:22 since he didn't have health insurance, he didn't have to worry about his transmission, finally going out and I have enough money for a new one. No, mommy and daddy wanted him to get married and well that was the end of his pressure. The one thing his parents always insisted on was that he find a bride and to be fair to him. I mean there was pressure to find a bride in the sense that he had to find one deemed appropriate
Starting point is 00:51:39 by the crown which is tricky. According to his biography, the prince couldn't just have anyone fill this role. Now, his potential bride had to be highly born, have a virginal reputation, and could not be Catholic. Fuck it weird. Obviously, few women would meet all these criteria. Gotta keep that image up. It's all they have left with strange game.
Starting point is 00:51:59 British culture plays with their fake royalty. I will never totally understand it. I mean, if it makes them happy, good for them. I just can't take it seriously. Like, if I was given a chance to meet anyone on earth, I don't think the Queen of England would be in the top thousand choices of mine. To throw it back to last week, I would rather meet Cory Feldman than the Queen of England. And I don't even really want to meet Cory Feldman. I do find the world's fascinating though. I find out seriously they take these traditions that to me just ring so hollow now since
Starting point is 00:52:24 the world has no real power, just super fascinating. Like all these adults playing what looks to me like this big game of dress up and pretend. I don't know. I mean, there's a good chance I'd play it too. If I was born into it and continuing to play it meant I got to live in a place like, you know, sandwich him a state and not have to worry about getting a real job. Back to Charles, like a lot of men in the early 20s. He didn't want to get married.
Starting point is 00:52:45 His great uncle and trusted advisor, Lord Lewis Dickie Mountbatten, told him, I believe in a case like yours that a man should show his wild oats before settling down. Dickie was Prince Philip's maternal uncle, a member of the royal family in Charles's unofficial mentor, till he died at the age of 79, more in his death later, pretty publicized,
Starting point is 00:53:04 pretty tragic death. In the summer of 1971. More on his death later. Pretty publicized, pretty tragic death. In the summer of 1971, Charles meets Camilla Shand. And his life is forever changed. Allegedly she introduced herself by saying, my great-grandmother was the mistress of your great-grandfather, so how about it? Ha, holy shit. She was referring to King Edward VII's affair
Starting point is 00:53:20 with Alice Kepple, her direct ancestor. The two had a very well-documented affair. He was married to Alexandra of Denmark. Alice would be Edward's mistress for the final dozen years of his life while she was also married. Based on the relationship that Charles and Camilla will have, I'm very open to believing that this intro actually happened. Both Charles and Camilla will carry on
Starting point is 00:53:40 with a long-lasting affair as if that's just what Royals do. Camilla was not born into nobility, but her family, her dad was a military man turned businessman and her mom was a homemaker. They did have some means. She was wealthy, educated in England, Switzerland, France, ran in the same social circles as Prince Charles and the Spencer's.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Maybe not part of like the inner inner circle, but she showed up at a lot of the same parties. In September of 1971, Charles begins his naval career, following his footsteps of his father, grandfather, and great-grandfathers. His six-week course at the Royal Naval College is followed by service on the guided missile destroyer HMS Norfolk and two frigates.
Starting point is 00:54:14 The next year, 1972, Charles grows closer to Camilla. It's been time together. Reed, they fucked a bunch. And then Camilla's boyfriend Andrew Parker Bulls or Wynn, excuse me, Cam Kimmelis boyfriend Andrew Parker bulls was away from home because of his army service. The relationship was not just sexual it seems. It seems like they really did fall in love in a different world they would have gotten married unfortunately for them though queen mummy. And the other royals did not feel the Camilla was royal marriage material. Her family was wealthy but not aristocrats.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Old dicky mountain batten told Charles I think it is disturbing for women to have experiences if they have to remain on a pedestal after marriage. So she didn't have the pure, original reputation the royals wanted either and how sad and fucked up. How interesting the Charles didn't tell his family to fuck off. Also, and just follow his heart. Just couldn't walk away from that inheritance. Didn't want the family backlash, the tabloid frenzy would create to be abdicated, his claim to the
Starting point is 00:55:04 throne. Perhaps his parents had convinced him to scan it like that would spell disaster for the royal image. Might not be wrong. And again, what a sad little weird little game they play. When Charles won't propose a Camilla due to family pressure, she goes forward and gets engaged to her boyfriend on March 15, 1972. Charles is a sad and upset, but does not try to stop them from getting married in July of 1973. 1974, Diana Nell 13 goes to a new boarding school at West Heath School. All these boarding schools, I can't stop thinking about Harry Potter. This pointer life, she's an accomplished penis, enjoys dancing and domestic sciences, uh, earns an award for giving maximum help to the school and her classmates.
Starting point is 00:55:42 She was a member of House Griffin door with Harry the Weasley's, and Hermione Granger, or she would have been, if you know Hogwarts was real. Diana was also athletic, she enjoyed diving, tap dancing, ballet. She would practice dancing late at night in the ballet hall. She loved school. She enjoyed spending time there with her friends. She had no idea what she wanted to do with her life after school because she was only 13.
Starting point is 00:56:02 At that age, she told her dad she was going to marry someone in the public eye, most likely an ambassador. Interesting. I imagine she thought that because she was not being groomed to be independent. She was groomed to be, you know, a noble bride. She wasn't the best student or least favorite part of school was academics. She failed her O-levels twice, the British school system, so different than the American school system.
Starting point is 00:56:21 This is basically the equivalent of like not finishing high school like like Like not passing O levels O levels is similar to like failing your GED Dynamo leave West Heath to the age of 16 for for finishing school now and a finishing school is a school for young women that Folks is on teaching social graces and upper class cultural rights as preparation for entry into high society A place for royals and women of high society to learn all the many many do's and don'ts of proper etiquette. Pinkies out, mother fucker, pinkies out. That sort of thing roughly. I really like and respect a certain level of manners and etiquette, but not not this much. Not this extent. While Dana was learning to be a proper lady of the royal court, Charles is qualifying as a helicopter pilot before joining 845 naval, the 845 naval air squadron.
Starting point is 00:57:06 And very cool that he's serving and learning these skills, but was there any chance that he would actually be sitting in a battle if something occurred in his life would be put at risk? I have to think no fucking way. I have to think the most of this is ceremonial. You know, done for optics. You know, was he a real soldier?
Starting point is 00:57:20 Or was this pageantry? Look, mommy. Charlie's flying the chop chop. Yeah, I feel like that sort of thing. April 1975, Diana becomes lady, Diana Spencer, when her father inherits the title, the eighth Earl of Spencer. Lady is a general title in England for any Paris below the rank of Duchess,
Starting point is 00:57:38 and a Paris is a female member of the British nobility of that period system. The family now moves from Parkhouse to the Spencer seat in Allthorpe, a family home built in 1508 in North Hamptonshire. And this is a fucking grand estate. Another, like something out of a movie about British royalty. This, in this show is like the Spencer family's wealth.
Starting point is 00:57:56 This is a massive fucking home, filled with enough expensive art to like become an art gallery, sitting on a 14,000 acre estate in North Hamampton, the main house has 100,000 square feet of interior space and 31 bedrooms. Lady dies brother, Charles Spencer, ninth Earl of Spencer, lives there now. But she's the people's princess. She's a commoner, just like you.
Starting point is 00:58:19 She's an untitled commoner, slumming it on a property literally bigger than the fucking entirety of Manhattan. I can't even comprehend that level of wealth. It cost over 130,000 pounds a year to keep lights on this place now in the water running. This is part of the royal fantasy, right? This insane level of not just wealth, but old wealth and all that comes with that. Her family bought the land for this estate in 1508, decades before the first European city founded in North America.
Starting point is 00:58:43 St. Augustine was even a thought in some conquistadors mind. Although Diana was now a lady, she was still technically a commoner because while her father had a proper title, she did not. She married the wrong dude, goodbye proper title. Oh, the scandal. On February 9th, 1976, Charles takes command of the coastal mine hunter now, HMS, Bronnington for his last nine months, the Navy, Navy, 1977, 16 year old Diana, attends finishing school in Switzerland. She's not great at it.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Instead of focusing on learning French, making sure she knows exactly how to carry yourself in a variety of situations. She mostly focuses on having a great time skiing. And if you haven't, he doesn't care. They apparently consider her education just to be a formality, right? Just so she can say she went there. Her family fully, fully expected her to marry a rich man, and then she wouldn't have to work if she didn't want to.
Starting point is 00:59:29 These people live in a world I've only experienced in like fictionalized versions of like books, TV, TV movies. I've never known someone who runs in these kind of circles. I doubt many who've grown up in America have, like unless their family's connected to European aristocracy or yeah, come I got aristocracy
Starting point is 00:59:46 It doesn't seem real In November 1977 Diana and Charles who've known each other to some extent since Diana was a small child Reconnect when he's invited to a weekend at allthup Charles is there visiting her sister lady Sarah Spencer six years older than Diana seven years younger than Charles Diana later recalled recalled Charles noticing her that weekend. She's 16. He's 29. She tells her school friends all about meeting the prince. According to Diana, her sister Sarah was all over Charles,
Starting point is 01:00:12 like a bad rash. Funny way of putting it. Charles first approached a young Diana after a dinner and asked her to show him their art gallery. And I made, she's sorry, excuse me for a second. I made a lot of noise and he liked that and he came up to me after dinner and we had a big dance. She said, she was surprised by the attention. And then they didn't speak again for the next two years.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Her sister Sarah's chance of becoming Charles's bride soon vanished later 1977 when she spoke to the tabloids about the prince. She told him she didn't yet love Charles and she wasn't ready for marriage. Maybe she wasn't that interested. It's not as she needed Charles's money. She could keep living in one of the 31 bedrooms with her family summer home. Charles didn't care. If they ever didn't want to marry him, plenty of other women would.
Starting point is 01:00:51 He was considered one of the, you know, most eligible bachelor's in the world. And he's rumored to have a 15 inch bilingual penis that can juggle right a bike and always select the perfect wine to pair with your meal. He's not rumored to have that, but still he's pretty big deal as a bachelor. And he was not in a real big hurry to get married
Starting point is 01:01:06 despite the family pressure. Unlike his future bride, Charles, and not have to be a virgin on his wedding day. And he spent, uh, well, it's been a lot of time with the ladies, classical double standard and full of fact here with the royals, Lucifer, and not happy. The 60s free love counterculture revolution, a lot of British bands had been at the forefront of did not seem to bleed over into the sex lives of women either in the royal family or women considered to be married into the
Starting point is 01:01:27 royal family. He briefly considered Lady Jane Wellesley's marriage material is a daughter of the Duke Wellington, perfect virginal bridal candidate, but they had no romantic feelings for one another and just remained friends. Lady Jane now 71 never got married scandal. What kind of royal lady would choose not to be married off to some other royal she didn't love? In the spring of 1978, Dinalef finishing school,
Starting point is 01:01:48 after the Easter term, she was now a free independent and single young woman. On November 14th, 1978, Charles turns 30. Now the pressure increases for him to find a bride. He had told news outlets back in 1975, I personally feel that a good age for a man to get married is around 30. Now he's like, ah, fuck, what did I say that? Now I feel like he has to
Starting point is 01:02:08 make good on that promise. That does sound like a pretty good age to get married, by the way. I got married for the first time at 23 and my ex-wife, not a bad person at all, so glad we had two awesome kids together. But if we would have both waited until we were 30, we would have never gotten married because we, you know, both would have known who we truly were and that we weren't really compatible. That being said, I know plenty of people do get married younger and they're love stands to test the time kudos to you if you're one of them, but statistically better to wait. Diana was invited to a dance at Buckingham Palace for Charles's 30th birthday celebration,
Starting point is 01:02:38 unknown if the two interacted there. No sparks seem to fly at that time if they did meet. But then the following year, old Dickey Mountbatten finds a girl he wants Charles to marry amanda natzbo his granddaughter Charles the second cousin Non-vergence or out but second cousins are in when it comes to marriage material Charles proposes her 1979 But I guess luckily kind of unlucky for Diana. She rejects him She didn't want to be part of the royal family. She didn't want to be under constant tabloid scrutiny. Scrutiny, don't blame her.
Starting point is 01:03:08 His next girlfriend, D'Vene Sheffield, was accepted by the royal family, but then automatically eliminated as a candidate because her ex-boyfriend announced that they lived together in the past, yuck, penises in vaginas. What's going on? Poup-Hole-Loup-Hole-Line, perhaps.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Queen Elizabeth will not sign off on it and good poll, loop holling, perhaps. Queen Elizabeth will not sign off on it. And good call. What kind of slub shruttery was going on in that fuck pad. Those two harlots cohabitated in. Again, the free love vibe just never took off, you know, inside the roof. Never shook the Queen Elizabeth's panties quite off. Very little Luciferina in Queen Elizabeth, it seems funny how many illuminati rumors revolving around sexually abusing people float around her of all people. She seems about as sexual as a lamppost.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I picture her having to shake some dust or sand out of her panties from time to time because she's just so fucking dry in there. Maybe that's partially why there are so many wild and sexual conspiracy rumors that float around in Queen Elizabeth and the royal family, perhaps because they seem so asexual, publicly, people assume they must be hiding some depraved form of sexuality. Charles now dates Anna Wallis, a Scottish eras. But then she ends up things because she feels that Charles is still too fixated on Camilla, which he is. Camilla and Charles secretly resume in their relationship in 1979. Her first marriage is now over. They wanted to be together,
Starting point is 01:04:21 but now the crown is more opposed than ever to their union. Charles is forbidden from marrying a divorcee. Mommy won't allow it. And Charles sometimes seems like mommy's the little boy bitch. All right, go back bone. Charlie puttin' pie. Follow your heart. Tell mommy dearest another royal relatives get fucked. Sure they'll take away some of your inheritance, but there's no way they were gonna let him
Starting point is 01:04:41 live in squalor, be homeless or something. That publicity would bring them too much shame. Much of what made it so difficult for Charles to find a wife at this time was the paparazzi. A lot of women just did not want those parasites all over everything they did. One of Charles's ex-girlfriends made a public statement that reporters and photographers broke into her house, left notes, followed her everywhere. Sounds terrible. And the women who didn't mind that level of intrusion, Charles, well, he was skeptical
Starting point is 01:05:03 of them, he questioned their motivations. Why would they be okay with that? Were they fame hungry? Did they actually like him? Charles constantly worried about girls dating him for all the wrong reasons. In 1976, he said, you see, every time a girl tells me that she loves me, I have to ask myself whether she really loves me or just wants to be queen. And whoever I choose is going to have a jolly hard job, always in my shadow, having to walk
Starting point is 01:05:24 a few steps behind me. All that sort of thing. Pretty revealing here that the expects his wife to live in his shadow walk behind him. That would not happen with Diana. He would live in her shadow and he did not like it. 1979, Diana moves into an apartment in London. She moves to the city not long after finishing finishing school. For a while she actually works as a nanny for an American businesswoman, Mary Robertson,
Starting point is 01:05:47 who did not know that she was a nobility. She took care of Mary's toddler son, Patrick, handled several other activities, including doing their laundry, picking up a bunch of toys, washing the dishes. And she does for a whole year. Dynand Mary, Patrick, we keep in touch for the rest of Dynand's life. That is very cool. All this backstory would help in I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that.
Starting point is 01:06:14 I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. then she moved into an apartment her parents bought her as a coming of age gift cost around a hundred thousand pounds. She lived there with three of her best friends, Dynast family financially supported her. She got an undisclosed but presumably significant inheritance and age 18, but didn't just party it up.
Starting point is 01:06:35 She worked even though she didn't need the money because she loved being around children. And while she was working, she also made sure not to date. She did still very much have her eye on a future aristocratic wedding. She knew she had to keep up a good reputation, a virginal reputation, so she could marry a man of high status if that chance arose. And in 1980, Diana reconnects again with the royal family and starts a friendship with Charles. And then a little bit of dick brings them together as more than friends. Not that kind of dick, Dicky Mountbat mountain. In July of 1980, Diana ends up consoling the distraught Prince Charles at a house party.
Starting point is 01:07:08 He is upset because dicky mountain has just been blown the fuck up by an IRA bomb. God, remember that suck? The Irish Republican Army bombed all sorts of people for years, including Old Dickey. The 79 year old was going out lobster potting and tuna fishing in a 30 foot boat with some family, which had been more than the harbor at Mulligmore.
Starting point is 01:07:25 IRA member Thomas McMayhan had snuck into the boat the night before planted a 50-pound radio-controlled bomb. And once Mount Badden was a few hundred feet from shore, he detonated it, and it damn near blue Dickie's legs clean off. When rescuers boated over to the crash site, he was somehow still alive at his life jacket on, but he was barely alive. He died before making it to shore.
Starting point is 01:07:46 One of his grandsons, only 14, would also die as would his eldest daughter's mother-in-law and a 15-year-old crew member. Other family members would be injured, tragic and not surprisingly highly publicized. And when Charles is at this party and upset following this death, Dynna approaches him and tells him, you look so sad when you walked up to the aisle at Lord Mountbatten's funeral. It was the most tragic thing I've ever seen. My heart bled for you when I watched. I thought it's wrong, you're lonely.
Starting point is 01:08:09 You should be with somebody, look after you. And after Diana said this, she said that Charles, quote, lept on her. She thought, well, this is very cool. I thought, man, we're not supposed to be this obvious. She now knew that Charles was attracted to her. She knew that at the very least little Charles was very interested.
Starting point is 01:08:25 The pocket prince, but she couldn't tell if Charles had actual feelings for her in part because she never had a boyfriend. She was really naive when she started dating Charles. Super virginal had not seriously dated, or really even casually dated anyone. After the party, Charles made more efforts to see Diana. He may not have ever really loved her early on, but little Charles, the pocket prince was really into her. On September 7, 1980, daily star journalist spot Charles kissing an unknown girl by the river D at a bowel moral castle. But not a girl. It's, they find out
Starting point is 01:08:59 and this is a, becomes a huge scandal who he is kissing. This is pretty fucking gross. The Legless Corpse of elderly Dicky Moundbot with a wig and red lipstick. It's a tremendous scandal. Queen Elizabeth had strictly forbidden Charles to stay away from Dicky's corpse and Diana's devastated. She doesn't feel portrayed exactly, she's confused and nauseous.
Starting point is 01:09:17 What's wrong with me? Why did I even say that? That's a horrific and unnecessary, probably not funny. Charles is photographed of course with Diana. And Diana, well, she has Dickie's legless corpse on her lap. She's pushed her right hand into his rib cage. It's working in like a zombie puppet. The scandals tremendous front page of tabloids across the UK headlines like future princess or necromancer puppet master.
Starting point is 01:09:38 I doubled down on bad joke. I should be institutionalized for suggesting nonsense. Charles is only photographed with Diana. And it's not scandalous. It's September 1980. Diana visits royal family at Balmoral Castle, the royal family of the Scottish estate. I should talk a little bit about this castle. I mentioned several times. Queen Elizabeth actually privately owns this little dump, right? Like if she, everything taken away, she loses her title, she still has this castle. And this castle sits on roughly 50,000 acres, almost five times the size of Manhattan. Number deal.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Roughly 150 different buildings on this estate. It's like it's own fucking country. The castle has 52 bedrooms, 52. Can't find a reliable source for square footage, but a 2020 US real estate article placed the value of the castle at roughly $140 million. And that seems very low to me actually. So anyway, this hole in the wall should hold summer home.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Charlie teaches Diana how to fish and they're photographed by the press. Now people are wondering if she might truly become his future bride. She's 19 because she has close ties, the royal family, Charles assumes she'll understand the pressures. Excuse me, I have her future role. Even Camilla approves because she thinks Diana is young and naive and won't interfere in her continuing to fare with Charles. Interesting way to look at it.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Diana's father and uncle soon publicly vouched for her virginity, weird, to enhance her chances of royal marriage, come across pretty creepy, and it is. But they did do this because the media was obsessed with speculating about the virginity of anyone Charles would date. Oh, super fucking weird, but it wasn't like it came out of nowhere. You know, it wasn't like some British girls, Earl Spencer. Is it true that you ought to don't the dyad, maybe come the future queen of England, and then he just, you know, blurt out, no one's such a fussy, no one, not even Diana.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I've got the close eye on my daughter's hoo-ha, her entire life. Sometimes I would check on her when she was sleeping, just to make sure her hymen was unlisted. I'm sorry, what was he saying? Wasn't quite like that. It's still creepy that there's that kind of interest in her sex life or lack thereof. After the river photos, the press started following Diana around her apartment, around the streets of London,
Starting point is 01:11:36 she was soon feeling overwhelmed. The royal family strangely refuses to give her any security. Maybe they're testing her. Maybe based on last week's celebrity cloning suck, Queen Elizabeth, Prince Philip, or just busy. They were out of the office to busy torturing kids in an illuminati cloning facility to be bothered with providing her security detail. England was fascinated by this new couple.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Diana seemed shy and sweet. She quickly earned the nickname shy die. People seemed to love how humble she seemed. She would very quickly become more popular than Charles. Charles was intelligent and well educated, but aloof and a bit awkward. Diana was naturally likeable in a way he just wasn't. Before he died, Mount Baton advised Charles that he should choose a suitable and sweet charactered girl, and he felt Diana was this girl.
Starting point is 01:12:19 He also believed Diana's young age would allow him to mold her, the kind of wife he wanted. He was not apparently in love with her by any means. Charles believed marriage was the last decision, I wish I should, what do you say? The last decision on which I want my head to be ruled by my heart. I have a sad way to look at it. His grandparents didn't love each other at first, but grew to love one another after they got married. He hoped the same would happen with Diana.
Starting point is 01:12:40 And if it didn't, oh well, well, there's always Camille. In January of 1991, Daddy Dearest Prince Philip orders Charles to either propose to Diana or let her go to spare her reputation. Charles then confessed to his friend, I'm terrified sometimes of making a promise and then perhaps living to regret it. It's just a matter of taking an unusual plunge into some rather unknown circumstances that inevitably disturbs me, but I expect it will be the right thing in the end. Oh, the call of duty. Before the engagement, Diana actually stayed with the Parker, uh, Bulls family for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:13:08 They were all part of the same social circle. She noticed how Camilla obsessed over Charles's personal life. Paul Diana, what to do, uh, what not to do in front of the royal family. Way back at this point, Diana wanted to have something still going on between the two. Uh, the day before the engagement, Diana has sent to Clarence House, a royal property. And she arrives this house or after she arrives there there a candid policeman tells her, I just want you to know this is the last, this is your last night of freedom ever in the rest of your life.
Starting point is 01:13:32 So make the most of it. Wow. Diana, worried about bad things that could come with continual press coverage, but not enough to later say no to Charles. Interesting that she knew about Camilla, keeping it about that, she knew what was going to happen to her personal life and still went through with it. She was so young. I've been so sheltered.
Starting point is 01:13:49 February 6, 1981, Charles proposed this to Diana with an 18 carat white gold ring topped with a 12 carat saline sapphire surrounded by 14 diamonds. It was given to him by his mother who no longer, you know, wore it as a clip clip. Come on, gosh dang. Uh, you know, I couldn't stay away from that forever. No, it was made by the Crown Jewelers Gerard inspired by a brooch created by for Prince Albert to give to Queen Victoria as a wedding gift. If you want to buy a replica, it's going to set you back about two mil.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Uh, but for that price, you do get a free engraving and free shipping. Steel of a deal. You have that kind of cash laying around. Diana exiles a disprope is proposal without hesitation. Charles later will claim to have felt instant regret. He and Diana had only seen each other a total of 13 times before the engagement. They still don't really know each other. He worried they wouldn't be able to overcome some of their differences and have a successful, successful marriage, but he still asked. It was what the royal family wanted good for the image.
Starting point is 01:14:43 An odd detail about the early relationship recording to protocol Dan it was not allowed to call Charles by his name until their engagement She'd always called him sir. I may imagine that hilarious for me to imagine my wife Lindsey called me sir Before our engagement or now like at any point I would not have worked Hey, baby. Do you want to grab some sushi? Baby, I think you mean sir woman. Should've been like bitch you drive a Hyundai hatchback with the bumper partially held on with some fucking wire.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Get out of here with that search shit. Diana became sick with believe me at the week after the engagement. Charles was at least partially to blame here. He'd put his hand on her waist and said, oh, bitch, chubby here on Tweet. Yee! Need to look perfect, Diana. What mommy wants that also would not have flown with my wife. She would have been like, have you seen your gut decade?
Starting point is 01:15:31 You go get some Gerard Butler to 300 apps before you say shit to me. Stress and social pressures also led to her blamia, tabloid pressure. February 24, 1981, Charles and Diana announced her engagement. Interesting time to make this announcement in the early 80s, British public opinion is turning against the monarchy. The government is assessing their financial value to the nation and they're considering getting rid of the royals, right, which should still happen at any point. When Charles and I announced their engagement, the government sees a big money-making opportunity, right? The fairy tale optics will be good for tourism. She may
Starting point is 01:16:01 have really kind of like saved the monarchy. When an interviewer asked if they were both in love, they said, of course, but then Charles added whatever in love means. Someone read flags for this ending well before they get married. On March 9, 1981, Diana attends her first world engagement at Goldsmith's Hall. She wears a black strapless dress. She thought it would be fine because all the girls were age or dresses like that, but the press found it scandalous. She should have paid more attention at finishing school,
Starting point is 01:16:25 less skiing, more dress protocol focus. She makes headlines for breaking royal protocol. On March 29th, 1981, an iconic image of Diana sobbing while Charles Bord's a plane makes the front pages of the newspapers. At the time, the public believed she was so sad to see her fiance leave. Diana would later reveal the real story behind this picture.
Starting point is 01:16:44 The day before Camilla had called Charles and Diana had left the room, felt feeling heartbroken. She thought their affair was over. And mid-July 1991, Diana finds a bracelet that Charles planned to give to Camilla. Someone from Charles's office had told her about it. The bracelet had GF engraved on it. This was an inside joke between Charles and Camilla, referring to her as his girl Friday. Diana was understandably, you know, pretty pissed off, but not pissed off enough to break off the engagement. Charles refused to talk to her about it. Diana later said that at this point, he'd found the virgin, the sacrificial lamb, and in a way, he was obsessed with me. But it was hot and cold, hot and cold. You never
Starting point is 01:17:17 knew what mood it was going to be. She told her sister, she couldn't go through with the marriage, but they said it was too late to check it out. And young Diana foolishly listened to them. Young meets sax listening much better to break off an engagement than it is to break off a wedding, right? There'll be a lot less collateral damage. Easier for everyone to pick up the pieces, even if it's like, you know, day before the wedding shit, no one should get married because they feel pressured as she want to.
Starting point is 01:17:40 The press praised Diana for losing weight prepping for her wedding. They had no idea while she was extremely sick with bulimia, she was extremely sick with bulimia. When she got measured for her wedding dress, initially her waist was 29 inches on her wedding day. It was 23.5. Oh my God. She had a courting to Diana herself shrunk into nothing. July 28th, 1991, the day before the big wedding, Charles cries. He is not excited to be getting married.
Starting point is 01:18:02 He is in love with Camilla. Diana also a wreck has a further relapse with her eating disorder. She eats everything she can find and throws up, you know, rest of the night on July 29th, 1991, despite neither the bride nor the groom really watching at the Royal wedding of the century takes place. 2,650 guests attend many of them royals or celebrities and an estimated one billion people watch around the world. Right, up to a billion. Diana woke up the morning of her wedding at 5 a.m. She later said she felt like a lamb being taken to slaughter.
Starting point is 01:18:31 How crazy this much unhappiness behind the scenes of the most publicized wedding of our lifetimes. Diana wore a taffeta wedding dress made with silk lace 10,000 pearls designed by David and Elizabeth Immanuel. She wore a 1700s Spencer family tiara, a 25 foot veil, her dress so big, it almost didn't fit inside the carriage. Diana was nervous. She mixed up Charles' names when she said her vows. She called him Prince Charles instead of Charles' Philip. Or I'm sorry, he called him Philip Charles instead of Charles' Philip.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Otherwise the day went, you know, perfectly for a marriage of two people who did not love each other or want to get married. After a wedding, Diana now takes on the title, Princess of Wales. And the people of Wales rejoice. They now had one of their own standing next to the future king. Now they didn't care. She wasn't well. English and Scottish mainly, just some more title stuff.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Because of that title, I actually thought she was from Wales until doing the research for this suck. The line later said she had some hope for her marriage the day after her marriage, but by two or by day two day two was completely gone. And she had good reason to say that, while on their honeymoon cruise, Charles pulls out his diary and two pictures of Camilla fall out.
Starting point is 01:19:34 I got, hopefully they weren't new, dude, come on, you're honeymoon? It's like, what are you doing? Not putting a lot of effort into not ruining this trip. Then she sees cuff links with a Chanel logo to connect it sees and find out that it's a gift from Camilla. They have a huge argument. For their honeymoon, they went to the Mount Baton family home at Broadlands. And they traveled to Gibraltar. They joined the Royal Yacht for a 12 day cruise. This Royal Yacht fucking gigantic.
Starting point is 01:19:59 It's over 400 feet long. Can sleep 250 pastures plus 270 crew and officers. So a little bit more than a kayak, you know? They ended with a state at the tiny, you know, little rinky dink, Balmoral castle. Charles and Diana then make their permanent residence at high-growth house, Nittetbury, Gloucestershire. Now this dump really is tiny. This little fucking shed shack of a house
Starting point is 01:20:21 only sits on 353 acres. You can see neighbors in the distance without binoculars, you know, cramped and clustered phobic. It's not even quite 30,000 square feet. I don't even know how they fit in there. Only has nine bedrooms, really six bathrooms. Am I as well moved into a dog house next to a dumpster? They also had an apartment in Kensington, Palace.
Starting point is 01:20:39 None of their homes had floors made out of blood diamonds or sex slaves for living furniture, so they were really slummin' it. Diana still just 19, thinks she's prepared for marriage. I think she'll have the support of her husband. She wants to put effort to making her marriage work. The possibility of being queen is far away. She's most concerned with present time with media coverage.
Starting point is 01:20:57 From Charles's perspective, leading up to wedding, Diana felt paranoid that the palace was trying to control her. The Charles was still seen as former girlfriend Camilla. He later claimed that they were not dating at this time. That seems like bullshit. He said she was unhappy at their wedding rehearsals rehearsals. Well, yeah, probably because he was still fucking Camilla from his perspective. The honeymoon was awful, not because of his obsession with Camilla, but because of Diana's poor behavior. He said she'd cry in her bedroom, skipped dinner with the family, which is breach of protocols. She would, she suffered from insomnia, she rapidly lost weight,
Starting point is 01:21:26 showed signs of an eating disorder, self-harm tendencies. She had rapidly shifting emotions at overwhelmed Charles. She didn't understand how to deal with her. He'd ask her, you know, what is it now, Diana? What have I said now to make you cry? He promised her, his affair was over, but nothing would make Diana happy. He left her bedroom in his family's castle to stay
Starting point is 01:21:42 in the bowel-moral countryside, which only made Diana more upset. Charles has mentors, mentors recommended he get a therapist for Diana that she take value, she refused. Charles felt as only fueled her paranoia that Royals wanted to sedate her. He did some of the therapist, Dr. Alan McGlashon, but Diana refused to see him. So Charles has asked Dr. Mollation for help and was his client for 14 years. According to Charles Diana, it was extremely jealous like to pick fights.
Starting point is 01:22:06 His cousin Pamela Hicks reported Diana would resurrect a row with him even when he was saying his prayers. She would hit him over the head while he note. So that's very, very unhappy from the very beginning. In his pro Diana book Andrew Morton agreed about her severe mental illness. She attempted suicide, suffered from bulimia, self-harm depression, severe anxiety.
Starting point is 01:22:24 Both parties had emotional inadequacies from their upbringing Diana felt empty and detached feared abandonment a difficulty with lasting relationships with When friends had previously grown tired of her temper and moods. They'd left her and she had some pretty dramatic things early on in her relationship with Charles Once in a rage she literally threw herself down the stairs and while she was pregnant Also cut herself with razors and glass in front of Charles and Dino did later admit to all this. According to Prince Charles Bographer, Sally Betel, Dino also disliked Charles personally and not because of his affairs with Camille, it's just not a good match. They should have just never been married. She hated his hobbies, you know, polo, painting, gardening, his love of Shakespeare. She allegedly even taunted
Starting point is 01:23:01 him, telling him he would never, never be king. She tried to put a wedge between him and his friends before the marriage. Allegedly she even made him get rid of his beloved dog, Harvey, frequently kicked him out of her bedroom. This dally, this officer, or I'm sorry, Sally claims that Charles even slept on a single bed with only a teddy bear to keep him company for a while. That seems a little bit fabricated to me here, but who knows? How unbelievably fucking sad. If this dude in his early 30s really was laying on a single bed in some royal estate, you know,
Starting point is 01:23:32 all of a set holding on to a teddy bear. Just fist, mummy and daddy shook me away to board in school. No, Diana do, do, won't let me sleep from my own bed. You'll never treat me so cruel. Will you miss the patented? You know, please love me and tell me I'm a good boy, won't you? From October 27th October 30th 1981 the couple takes their first tour together a three-day visit to Wales Charles not expecting to shy wife to be so popular and then wherever they go crowd start to chant we want Diana
Starting point is 01:23:58 We want Diana and that probably didn't feel great. We don't want you. We don't care about you. Please get your wife out here. You are boring. Prince William is conceived in October. This is a godsend for Diana, she says, because it occupies your mind, gives you something to look forward to. November 19, 19, 1, the Royals announced the pregnancy. Diana suffers from severe morning sickness. It has to cancel many of her engagements.
Starting point is 01:24:21 She feels embarrassed like she's letting everybody down. January of 19, 19 of 1982 news comes out, the Diana fell down the stairs while pregnant, according to Diana. This was a suicide attempt, but at the time, she and the royals, just said it was an accident. What a strange suicide attempt to throw in oneself
Starting point is 01:24:36 down the stairs. That seems like a bad way to take yourself out. Seems like a great way to just really permanently hurt yourself, but to keep living. Clearly she was not well. Baby William, luckily unharmed, I know only has minor injuries. What led to the stare incident?
Starting point is 01:24:49 Dynastat she was crying, Charles refused to listen to her. So she threw herself down the stairs. Charles sought, she was exaggerated about all her problems and she felt no one understood her. Holy royal drama bad man. I gotta say, these two both seem like children who happen to be of adult age in many of these moments. June 21st, 1982, Prince William Arthur Philip Lewis is born. Diane only 20 at the time.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Charles wanted the children's first names to be Arthur and Albert, but Diane apparently shut that idea down. The outside world she appears to be thriving. She's beautiful, graceful, seamlessly adopts her role of Princess of Wales. She's given, you know, the heir to the throne of son. She's wearing the latest fashions, working for admirable charities, a literal princess, her life is a commoners dream, but she's fucking miserable. She and Charles' marriage not going well.
Starting point is 01:25:32 She suffers from severe postpartum depression on top of low self-esteem, bulimia, constant bombardment from the paparazzi. She later admits her postpartum depression affects her marriage. She begins self-harming, her bulimia worsens. She'd binge eat when she had a busy day out in public and throw up that evening. She says the royal family youths are eating disorder
Starting point is 01:25:49 to label her as unstable instead of trying to understand the disorder instead of expressing concern. They would just accuse her of, quote, wasting food. If they really did that, that's fucking cold-blooded. As Dino, as Dino, okay, I had to throw in up in the bathroom. She's fine. She's just in there wasting food again.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Never have I known anyone who loved to waste food like Lady Love Handlers. In March 1983, Diana Charles and William take a tour of Australia, New Zealand, a Doring crowd. Wait for Diana. Charles jealousy grows on September 15th, 1984, Prince Henry, Charles Albert, David is born. Today we call him Prince Harry. Diana claims she knew the entire time.
Starting point is 01:26:29 She was pregnant. She was having a boy, but did not tell Charles. He wanted a girl. And when Harry was born, he was disappointed. When Diana saw his reaction, she said something inside me closed off. Our marriage, the whole thing went down the drain. Seems like it had already gone down the drain. 1985, Diana starts an affair with her bodyguard, Barry Manicky, maybe.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Some sources say she may have had an affair. Many others say she just let the tip in. Uh, no, others seem certain she did. The full extent of their affair is still debated. Diana did admit to falling in love with him. The two had emotional intimacy. She later described him as the greatest love of my life. And I'm going to say this is a ball's deep kind of love. Some emotional, some emotional intimacy. She later described him as the greatest love of my life. And I'm gonna say this is a ball deep kind of love.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Some emotional love and some hope you're having fun with Camilla Charles, Barry's currently knocking my back out, loophole in my foo-hole. Kind of love. After I had to spoke with the love she had for Barry, he was immediately transferred away from her security detail. He died two years later at the age of 39
Starting point is 01:27:21 in a traffic accident, conspiracies began to swirl about the royal family having him killed. And inquest finds us to be false. Then of course, you know, rumors age of 39 in a traffic accident, conspiracies, began to swirl about the royal family having him killed. In quest finds this to be false, but then of course, you know, rumors swirl of cover-up and then, you know, with Daniel later dies, this will be combined with his death earlier than the royal family's killing everybody in car crashes. I wonder if they wanted him dead, why wait until two years after his affair is exposed. Uh, 1906, if he wasn't fucking around already with, uh, what I think he was, Charles is now for sure fucking around already with, which I think he was, Charles is now for sure
Starting point is 01:27:45 fucking around with Camille again. And this dresses Diana out. Weird, that an affair that just won't go away, we'll do that. On May 6, 1986, Diana fainted the Expo Exposition, our Expo Ex-Expo exhibition on her Canadian tour with Charles. She's tired, had an evening several days. Charles berates her for fainting in public, asked her why couldn't have fainted behind a closed door. Why do you have to faint in front of everyone? Diana asks if she could stay behind the rest. Charles insists
Starting point is 01:28:11 that she needs to get back out there and attend their engagements or either fighting all the time now. Few months later, November, 1986, Diana starts in a fair with Captain James Shewitt, a Calvary officer, who is her former writing instructor. Uh-huh, not surprised. One day, a teacher had a write a horse. The next day, she's the horse. That's how they get you. Classic writing instructor, sexual power move. I've come across this a thousand times, so many stories.
Starting point is 01:28:34 They're like, oh, you just want to hop on here and swing your leg over and just, oh, not quite like that. You just want to swing your leg over and then with your knees gently, but firmly, press down the sides a bit. Ah, that's quite like here. Just let me show you, pretend to be the mayor.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Just get down on our force, yes, just like that. Then I hop on your back here, and I press my legs and gently round your hips. Then maybe we're riding, we're riding. I'm just kind of rubbing back and forth. And I think this would look better if we both naked, and then we just ride. And the next thing you know, you're getting barebacked.
Starting point is 01:29:03 That's how if you're not careful, you can show up at a lesson, hoping to learn how to improve your writing skills, and you can leave pregnant. I've fucking, I've seen it a thousand times. On all seriousness, there were fair lessons until 1991. On October 1987, newspapers began publishing articles speculating that Charles and Diana have spent over 30 days apart and are not happily married at all. February 1989, Diana finally directly confronts Camilla.
Starting point is 01:29:25 It happens at a house party. She tells her, I obviously am in the way, it must be hell for both of you, but I do know what is going on. Don't treat me like an idiot. This also makes it to the tablets. Apparently anyone who hasn't even done on them now is just immediately selling it to the tablets.
Starting point is 01:29:39 According to Diana, after this confrontation, people on her husband's side tried to convince Charles to put her in a home, as in have her committed. But quietly, discreetly, come up with a cover story. Diana one time, public image asset has become a liability and bear as much as the royal family for not keeping quiet on her husband's affair, for having affairs of her own. She's getting messy now. Queen mummy, not pleased.
Starting point is 01:30:01 As the 90s began the following year, rumors of Queen Victoria syndrome began to run rampant. QVS little use term for when the British population tires of an aging monarch and a parasitic royal family that seems out of touch with reality. Things not going well for the royals right now. A poll taken in 1990 finds it roughly half the population supports the idea of abdication. No more royals. The public breakdown of Charles Niners' marriage is well known and all the scandals and gossip around it. And the insight it gives into how the royal family conducts their business has many British and British citizens thinking something along the lines of, oh, fuck off.
Starting point is 01:30:35 And that's enough. Enough, enough. In the spring of 1991, Diana sits down at Kensington Palace now for a series of secret interviews. Recorded by Diana's friend, Dr. James Coltersd, and will be the basis of English journalist Andrew Morton's explosive biography on Dana, released the next year, as well as a 2017 documentary about the interview tapes. More on that in just a second.
Starting point is 01:30:55 1992, not a good year for her majesty. The drama queen, actual queen, Elizabeth, calls 1992 her horrible year, because of some of the following events February 11th Diana's photograph to loan in front of Taj Mahal. The building was constructed as a symbol of love from a man to his wife and the image of Diana alone is framed by the media as symbolic of her broken marriage. This pickets a lot of play. Shots up on a lot of tabloids because it's a pretty iconic photo. June 7th Andrew Morton's book Diana, her true story gets serialized in the papers
Starting point is 01:31:26 before it's publication. It's a huge fucking hit. The talk of the nation describes in great detail Diana struggles with bulimia, depression, suicide, the affairs. At first Diana tries to deny being involved in the book, but then Morton reveals she helped him write it and she confesses. Queen mummy is very angry. June 16th, Diana, her true story is published in its
Starting point is 01:31:45 entirety, causing further outrage amongst the royals and scandal. It'll be made into a popular TV movie the very next year. It's a story that will not go away for the royal family. Morton, interestingly, will publish a scathing unauthorized biography of Tom Cruz in 2008 that will attack Scientology so aggressively. It wasn't even published in the UK, Australia and New Zealand due to libel laws in those countries. I love it! Hail Nimrod and let those motherfuckers have it, Morton! August 24th, Squidgy Gate, Foxination.
Starting point is 01:32:15 The press detailed recorded phone conversations with Diana and her friend James Gilby. In the British Secret Service, aka some spies released these conversations to the public, the conversations were from December 31, 1991. Diana complained about the royal family called life with Charles real torture. The scandal was called Squigie Gate because he'll be nicknamed Diana Squigie. Diana thought Squigie Gate was meant to tarnish her reputation. Some royal sabotage, but that did not work. The public felt sorry for her.
Starting point is 01:32:42 She worried about the royal family attacking her image because now she and Charles Charles are engaged in pre divorce discussions. It's not a matter of if her marriage is going to end as a win and how November 13th Camilla Gates now makes the front pages of the tabloids. The press had leaked a private conversation between Prince Charles and his mistress Camilla Paca Bals. Yes, the conversations were from December of 1989. Charles, uh, in these, uh, tapes told Camille some pretty weird shit like, uh, I'll just live inside your trousers. Well, something perhaps as a tampax.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Ha, ha, look at these two. It wants to crawl in her vagina, just suck up a period. That, that's love or lust or kink. I don't know, I don't know, pry kink. Uh, Camille must have been an absolute fucking beast in the sack. Charles was clearly extremely sexually attracted to her. They had some serious chemistry. What a shame they just didn't get married, you know, after they met when they were young and avoid all this. All this could have been avoided if either the royal family would have condoned Charles's original interest in wanting to marry her
Starting point is 01:33:39 or if he would have been strong enough to break away from mummy and daddy and just marry her without the approval. Now, December 9th, 1992, Buckingham Palace announces with regret the Princeton Princess of Wales had decided to separate. Three out of four Britons now believe the royal family is fucked. They're completely fallen apart. Their popularity is rock bottom. Dynand now lives at her office in Kensington Palace. Charles lives at St. James Palace in high grove. Dynand tells the children a week before Charles makes a official announcement. After the separation, they actually start to get along better. Diana seems happier, right?
Starting point is 01:34:09 They're fairly towards one another. Charles drops in often to visit her and the kids. The one thing that unites them is her love for the boys. Although things settle down between her and Charles, Diana said, people's agendas changed overnight, really speaking of like the royal family and the tablets. I was now a separated wife of the Prince of Wales. I was a problem. I was a liability.
Starting point is 01:34:28 And how are we going to deal with her? Allegedly, palace officials now blocked her from visiting abroad, prevented her from working in her charities, even stole some of her mail. It's now in the royal family's best image, you know, best image interest to make her look worse than Charles. On December 3rd, 1993, Diana announces she will be reducing her time in public to have a more private life. She's exhausted.
Starting point is 01:34:51 She thinks Charles is employees who also work for her. It's messy now, are trying to undermine her, undermine her work on charities, you know, get more publicity, you know, for Charles of charities than hers. June 29th, 1994, more scandal, Prince Charles admits to being unfaithful in a TV interview. He doesn't say the woman's Camilla, but everyone knows who he's talking about.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Later that year, an authorized biography of Charles officially confirms his affair with Camilla. At some point, 1995, Diana meets a heart surgeon named Hosnet Khan and begins in a fair with him. Oh, it meets all hot nuts. Hot nuts, Khan. On December 20th, 1995, a secret interview Diana does with the BBC is broadcast the entire world to see the world family's caught
Starting point is 01:35:30 off guard and furious. It's a PR battle now. They had no knowledge of this interview before it came out in her interview with Martin Bashir. Diana tells Diana tells him she knew about the affair between Charles and Camilla. There were three of us in this marriage. She said so it was a bit crowded. She's also open about her own affair with James He Camilla. There were three of us in this marriage, she said, so it was a bit crowded. She's also open about her own affair, but James Hewitt, yes, I adored him. Yes, I was in love with him, but I was very let down, she says.
Starting point is 01:35:51 She also hints in the interview that Charles is unfit to take the throne. She's honest about her mental illness, described her bulimia as a secret disease. You inflicted upon yourself because your self-esteem is at low ebb, and you don't think you're a worthy or valuable. It's repetitive pattern,
Starting point is 01:36:03 which is very destructive to yourself. The queen is so fucking mad. A comment phrase she uttered in response to private family business was, never complain, never explain. That was her credo and that kind of stuff. And Diana obviously broke that rule with her BBC interview. Diana agreed to take a half-response ability
Starting point is 01:36:19 for her failed marriage, but no more than that in this interview. Her aides later said she regretted doing the interview. She only did it because she wanted to take some control of the media narrative surrounding her separation and not let the royal family dictate that narrative. And that would suck to have your divorce, divorce play out in such an extremely public way. To know that if anyone recognizes you, they know a bunch of dirty laundry about you that you rather keep private.
Starting point is 01:36:41 July 15th, 1996, Charles Dina, officially filed for divorce after months of intense negotiations about child custody. And I love this royal titles. Mommy, don't let it be the princess of Wales. I don't want her to have that title. I want to give that to Camilla, Mommy. August 28th, 1996, the divorce is finalized.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Dina will remain the princess of Wales. She keeps that title. Also keeps her apartments at Kensington Palace. She does agree to give up her title of Her Royal Highness and future claims to the throne. She resigned most of her charities and patronages, but remained a patron of her few favorite charities like Leopardssey Mission, National AIDS Trust, Hospital for Sick Children. Also continues her humanitarian effort, particularly to raise awareness about landmines and Angola. Now free from royal constraints, she can do what she wants.
Starting point is 01:37:26 She wants William and Henry to have an understanding of people's emotions, their insecurities, people's distress, and their hopes and dreams. So she takes them to hospitals, homeless shelters, orphanages, takes them to fast food restaurants, public transportation, and show them what life is like to regular people. January 15th, 1997, Diana completes her famous walk across that partially cleared land minefield to symbolize the importance of banning landmines. Very iconic image again, one of the most well-known photos of her. On the summer of 1997, Diana goes on vacation with a new boyfriend, Dodie Fiat. Dodie Alphayat.
Starting point is 01:37:58 He's a film producer from Egypt, also the son of a billionaire, Muhammad Alphayat, former owner of London's Herod's department store, one time easily the most famous store in the world, and the full-him FC soccer team. Dodi, most famous for producing Territz of Fire, he invited Diane and her children on his yacht in the south of France, where the paparazzi took plenty of pictures of him. The two at first met in 1986 at Apollo match, where he and Charles played an opposing team, some serious rich people shit.
Starting point is 01:38:24 They reconnected, date after the divorce, they then spent time in Sardinia, the south of France and Paris and the tablets could not get enough. Rumors spread that the royal family and prime minister Tony Blair disapproved of Dodie. Why is the prime minister waning on this? I have no idea. I guess just because of British obsession with the royal family. In late August 1997, Diana is back on Dodie's yacht, the paparazzi photographing them. Kissing, I bet that dude had a sweet fucking yacht. I couldn't find out the specs on it.
Starting point is 01:38:51 Can you imagine how having a billionaire dad being a film producer and having a big-ass yacht? How much that would help your dating life if you're single? All right, a lot of big yachts have tele-hella pads. I bet his had a helipad. Holy shit. Are you free next weekend? We should spend a weekend on my yacht. I'll send a private car to take you to a private airport. Don't fly you degrees. Then my helicopter can take you straight out to my yacht. How do you like your caveat? Life styles are the rich and famous tech shit. Reminds me of watching that show as a kid. August 30th, 1997, Diana and Doty returned to Paris. Rumors spread. They might get married soon allegedly. Doty even purchased an engagement ring that morning.
Starting point is 01:39:29 It's not a confirmed, you know, rumor, but possibly these rumors will quickly fade though when it becomes abundantly clear. The very next day, Diana will never get married again late on August 30th, 1997, Saturday night, a car with Diana, Doty, you know, Doty, if I had a body bodyguard Trevor Reese Jones and then the driver Henry Paul is fleeing the paparazzi in Paris and they crash in an underpass. Dodean Henry Paul diets a scene, Dianna dies a few hours later in the hospital from her injuries. Dianna's bodyguard Trevor Reese Jones, the owner's survivor, he suffered a severe brain and chest injuries. Every bone in his face was broken, a lot of reconstructive surgery spent 10 days in a coma.
Starting point is 01:40:01 Surgeons would use 150 pieces of titanium to rebuild his smashed face, using family photos as a guide. After the crash, he ends up bouncing around in jobs, you know, jobs to job after recovering from his injuries. Eventually gets back into security. He currently works as the global head of security or vaccine giant AstraZeneca. The tin foil hat crowd has taken notice of that. The illuminati moved him into another one of their companies after he helped assassinate
Starting point is 01:40:25 Lady Die. And Spiracy's regarding his involvement in her death have never totally gone away. So tragic Diana would have been going home the next day to see her children. The paparazzi chased the car she was in as they headed out to dinner. Because of this, Dodie canceled her original dinner plans, said they'll just eat dinner at the Ritz Hotel now, then drive his apartment in Paris. Dodie's plan to keep everything private was to have two cars act as decoys, leaving the Ritz from the front entrance, then they would leave from the rear.
Starting point is 01:40:49 So he calls in Henry Paul, who is off duty at the time and had been drinking. Of course, he had a Saturday night. Dodie and Diana leave the Ritz at 12.18 a.m. Sunday morning. The pop roti finds them, starts chasing their car. As they approach the, uh, uh, class day, Alma underpass, Henry Paul clips another car, loses control of the vehicle, then hits the 13th pillar with no time to break. Dode and Henry Paul die instantly. Dynas bodyguard as I stayed severely injured. Diana slumped over in the back seat, taken to the hospital where she'll die from cardiac
Starting point is 01:41:17 arrest. Also, her pulmonary vein was torn. What have taken a miracle for those doctors to savor? She died in an nearby hospital after two hours of emergency surgery pronounced at 4 a.m. local time. No one in the car wearing seat belts and inquest later ruled that they might have all survived. Likely, most of them would have survived. They've been wearing seat belts. I'm not sure how conspiracy theorists address the seat belt situation here, right? That should have helped quell assassination rumors. They died in large part from just not buckling up. That'd be a weird thing for an assassin to factor into his assassination plans to count on them not wearing their seat belts when they wreck the car and the one guy who lived he also wasn't wearing a seat belt um you know it's but it's so it's not like you know he would have just reached over in jerk
Starting point is 01:41:58 the wheel to wreck the car like some have claimed you know because he's he's he's gonna probably die too uh for 41 a.m. the press association issues a news flash. Diana Princess of Wales has died according to British sources. BBC newscaster Martin Lewis announces it at 5 a.m. Regular programming in England is suspended as coverage continues. The royal family gets the news while they're in Scotland at that hole in the wall dump, right? Balmoral castle within a few hours.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Charles flies to Paris to travel with Dianaynasties body back to England. He returns to Scotland to be with his children then Williams 15 Henry's 12 or Harry's 12 Charles's main priorities to protect them from the paparazzi now. He has to meet you to respect his children's privacy. Let them have a normal school life. The public doesn't like to lack of emotion from the royal family in the days following Dynasties death. All the Britain is devastated and they wait for the palace to release the statement. They want the queen to lead Britain in morning, her normal style of being reserved and hands
Starting point is 01:42:48 off does not play well here. And she doesn't really step forward and do this. Prime Minister Tony Blair speaks before she does telling the country, I feel like everyone else in this country today utterly, utterly devastated. She was a wonderful and a warm human being through her own, though her own life was often sadly touched by tragedy, she touched the lives of so many others and Britain and throughout the world with joy and comfort. She was the people's princess. And that's how she will stay, how she will remain in our hearts and in our memories forever. And that, yeah, it's very good speech. September 1st, 1997, French investigators determined Henry, Henry Paul's blood alcohol content level was three times over the French legal limit.
Starting point is 01:43:27 No sea belts in drunk driving. A combination of his fatal, you know, fairly often, no assassination needed with that. Earlier that day, Dodify Ed's spokesman said that Paul was a sober model employee, and maybe he was, but you know, he wasn't supposed to be working that night. I wasn't supposed to be working that night. Paul's family demands a second autopsy. It confirms that the confirms the blood alcohol content and reveals he also had antidepressants in his systems. That alcohol and antidepressants mingling together. That's not gonna help his reaction times reflexes.
Starting point is 01:43:55 So, September 2, 1997, people began placing flowers in front of Diana's home in Kensington. For At Kensington Palace. On September 5, 1997, the queen makes a statement expressing her grief on live television now. She addresses her subjects as a queen and a grandmother remarking on Diana as an exceptional and gifted human being. The royal family then returned to London and viewed some flowers left for Diana. They flew the British flag at half massed over the palace. Diana's death allowed them to present a United Front and the public
Starting point is 01:44:22 generally approved of how they handle it now. On September 6, 1997, Diana's funeral procession leaves Kensington, palace at 9.08 a.m. for Coven rest on a carriage drawn by six black horses, thousands and thousands, tens of thousands of thousands line the streets to watch 2.5 billion people watched around the world. That's what they say, 2.5 billion. The earth population at the time, 5.8 billion, almost half of everyone on fucking earth tunes into her funeral procession. That's insane to me.
Starting point is 01:44:51 Interesting personal connection to all this. I showed up in London just a few days later to study abroad there for a semester and it did feel like a nation in morning. I mean, people weren't crying in the street, but there were flowers all over various landmarks because I was like, what the hell is with all these flowers? I remember I was so oblivious in my own little bubble, I was like, what's going on with all these flowers? And then someone was like, well yeah, cause lady died and I was like, okay,
Starting point is 01:45:12 I didn't understand like truly how popular she was. Very somber overall atmosphere. The closest thing I've ever experienced in the US to this as far as mass grief was the days following 9-11. I imagine the national atmosphere and the days following Kennedy's assassination, similar to what it was like in England in early September, 1967.
Starting point is 01:45:30 On top of the flowers of her honor coffin was a white envelope with the word mummy written on it. So fucking sad, her son's put it there. Much to the public surprise, William and Harry walked behind the casket with Charles, Earl Spencer, Prince Philip, and some representatives of Diana's charities. Prince Philip, the voice grandfather, had told him they might regret it later, as it shows not to walk with her mother.
Starting point is 01:45:49 That's a good call, I think. At the funeral, the queen bowed to pay tribute. People were surprised. Historian Jane Ridley said the queen bows to nobody ever. And yet as the funeral procession road pass, Buckingham Palace, the queen was seen out front making a bow to her daughter-in-law. How magnanimous of her. She's not a bad person. She bowed. Everyone sought. Long live the queen. Hip-Hip-Hip to her daughter-in-law. How magnanimous of her. She's not a bad person.
Starting point is 01:46:06 She bowed. Everyone sought long live the queen. Hip hip hooray. She can bow. It's a funeral dayna's brother gives a touching speech about her. Elton John performs a special rendition of his song Candle in the Wind. Changes the lyrics. It was originally about Marilyn Monroe.
Starting point is 01:46:20 You know, now change it to be fitting for Diana. The opening lyrics are Goodbye good by England's rose. May you ever grow in our hearts. You were the grace that placed itself where lives were torn apart. You called out to our country and you whispered to those in pain. Now you belong to heaven and the stars fell out your name. This recording went on to become the most successful pop single in history. It sold over 30 million copies.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Diana was buried at a gravesite on a small island at her family's estate. And then conspiracies began to swirl and swirl. Numerous official inquiries would determine that the crash was because of drunk driving and no seatbelts and because of evading the paparazzi, not because of some crazy conspiracy. Eight years later, April 9th, 2005, Prince Charles and Camille a finely married
Starting point is 01:47:03 in a quiet ceremony. She takes on the title of Duchess of Cornwall and surprisingly the public accepts her. I think they understood how fucking complicated and just fucked up the whole situation was. How Charles never wanted to marry Diana in the first place, not really how Queen Elizabeth had been a thorn in the side of Diana, Charles, and Camilla. Alright, let's hop out of the timeline now and explore some conspiracies about what really happened. Good job, soldier. You made it back. Barely.
Starting point is 01:47:37 To this day rumors persist that Diana's death was no accident. Many have believed in some still believe it was a planned assassination by the royal family. They cite several reasons that the royals would allegedly want to kill Diana, almost all of which have been disproven by numerous investigations. The Daily Express, a British Daily tabloid and Muhammad al-Fayed, you know, Dode's father were the main spreaders of the theory that the royal family helped, you know, plan this car crash. And a response to Metropolitan Police launched Operation Paget.
Starting point is 01:48:05 Took years, cost millions of pounds, only for the police to agree with the initial reports. Their investigation examined 175 different theories, determined none of them were true. Here are the nine main reasons and or clues conspiracy theorists point to regarding her motives, regarding believing the royals had Diana killed. Number one is Diana was killed because she was pregnant with Dodie Fyades baby. Muhammad al-Fyades was the guy who really pushed this one. He felt the royal family could not accept an Egyptian Muslim, could eventually be the stepfather of the future king of England.
Starting point is 01:48:35 Rumors of her pregnancy were rampant before her death. On a holiday in France, a newspaper speculated that she was pregnant. Diana also made comments about a big surprise coming soon. However, the post-mortem exam found no signs of pregnancy, her blood tests revealed no pregnancy. Diana's close friends went on record to say that she had never mentioned anything about this to them. Never told them she thought she even might be pregnant. So doubtful. Diana, number two, Diana did believe at one point she was going to be killed by the establishment. So this fuels conspiracy rumors, right? Of course. Paul Burrell, her former butler, just closed the letter of the diana, gave him for safekeeping. They said, I fear
Starting point is 01:49:08 my husband is going to kill me in an automobile accident. So that doesn't look good. At the time she wrote this letter, she was having car troubles. And she feared for her safety. And she was a very dramatic person, you know, based on a lot of other, you know, confessionals and her writing stuff. And her bodyguard had recently died in an accident. You know, her former lover. She thought this was part of the conspiracy. And again, I'll admit this does not look good. But people worry about shit that is not true all the time. I'm one of them. Am I fucking crazy head? I have built up so many scenarios where so and so has it out for me. Only to realize later, not the case at all. I made up a lot of stuff from my brain. And I'm
Starting point is 01:49:41 like, oh yeah, I'm crazy. And I and she was a little bit crazy too. The third theory here, the paparazzi intentionally caused the car crash to cash in on the carnage, right? According to this theory, the paparazzi chased, pushed the car, caused it to crash into the pillar so they could get the death photos and then make millions. And investigation term, this is not true. This is a really stupid one, I think, because she was worth a lot more in my opinion to the tabloids in the long run alive. Right. Sure, her death gave them a lot to work with in the short term, but had she lived and kept dating random dudes or married Dodie or truly gotten pregnant, this would have given
Starting point is 01:50:13 them way more gossip to keep running with so many more stories to sell more tabloids. Overall, they would have gotten more mileage, made a lot more money. Number four, Henry Paul intentionally crashed after getting paid to kill everyone else in the car. This is the, you know, the thought here as Henry was paid by someone probably in the royal family to kill Lady Diana, Believers think the reports that Paul was drunk or alive to cover up the killing and that the police swapped his totally alive, just fine body with the drunk drunk dead person. So the toxicology report would be correct. And this is fucking crazy town. I mean, this can be possible. But if you're going to go
Starting point is 01:50:43 this far, it's like, okay, then literally any preposterous theory that anyone can come up with a decent imagination is possible. Theory number five. My dad was hiding under the front seat somehow. And at the right moment, he grabbed Henry Paul's legs, caused them to swerve. I mean, to swerve the car crash after being paid by Queen Elizabeth to kill Doty and Diana. Then my dad hid in the wreckage until the police placed the car in storage, snuck out, and then he casually flew back to Idaho. And I'll admit this one is very hard to believe at first.
Starting point is 01:51:11 However, when I texted my dad, and I asked him, I'm like, where were you exactly on the evening of August 30th going into early, you know, the early morning of August 31st, 1997? My dad texted back, what the hell are you talking about? He says, that's stupid joke years about maybe in a serial killer. And I find that interesting that he would immediately jump to being a killer, to be an murderer. Well, I just wanted to know where the fuck he was. That feels like the reaction of a very guilty person
Starting point is 01:51:33 in my mind. Now, if I didn't have a lot of concerns over his ability to hide under the seat, I would say this happened. Moving on, don't even worry about this one if you're a new listener. Third number six, Diana's car had been tampered with. Very doubtful, right?
Starting point is 01:51:48 This was her concern earlier that she had written about eyewitnesses did not report seeing any car problems prior to the crash at all. The car seemed to be driving just fine before crash. Number seven, a bright flash blinded Henry Paul caused the crash. This is maybe the dumbest one to me. We talked about this one last week. This is one of the ones that ledged clone victim Donnie Marshall.
Starting point is 01:52:07 His crazy ass pointed to it. Some illuminati assassination claims. And I went and I went over last week how fuck is stupid of an assassinationist's tempest. I mean, I don't think shining a bright light into professional driver's eyes is just gonna make them panic and just like, you know, veer off course.
Starting point is 01:52:21 That's that is some like poorly written action movie. And also other people would have seen this light and no one reported that they're like, oh my God, this crazy ass light is coming to the tunnel. Lining people. Dynast medical care is sabotaged. EMTs are paid off by the crown is the next theory that these shady doctors allowed Dynast to die by not treating her properly. This conspiracy started to catch on because French EMS and British EMS operate differently. The French focus on treating it to scene while the British want to get people to the hospital as soon as possible. The investigators who wrote the report for Operation Paget argued that a
Starting point is 01:52:52 conspiracy like this will require a substantial number of doctors and caregivers to all break their oaths and be in on it. It's almost vacually that it's possible that if she was taken sooner to the hospital, she might have survived. But doctors who were actually there, those who have studied her autopsie reports say, hmm, doubtful, probably not. And then there's theory nine. Dodie and Diana were never going out to dinner that night. Diana had stolen Queen Elizabeth's clit clip diamond. And she and Dodie went the process of selling it to the KGB.
Starting point is 01:53:19 The KGB wanted it because the 15-karat diamond was actually a key. Used to open a mystical portal that led to Queen Elizabeth's underground illuminati cloning center. The one we talked about last week, the one where she stabbed Donnie Marshall or maybe his clone to write a new hit pop song. I may, I'm okay, I may, I may, I may, maybe I made that one.
Starting point is 01:53:35 I just, I just wanted to try and snake the clip clip nonsense into there one more time. I think, I'm done now, I'm done now, I think. Many of these series have no evidence, of course, to back them up, but still a lot of people believe that I had a new secrets about the royal family, and they plotted to kill her because she was going to tell, or they just couldn't stand that she was going to be married to someone who wasn't white.
Starting point is 01:53:51 I don't know, how many times have we heard something like this, right? Especially the no too much angle. They knew too much, so they had to be killed. I didn't think if that was true. Wouldn't she have been killed earlier, and more effectively, poisoned under sleep, maybe? I don't know. I made it, make it look like a heart attack or something. Why wait for her to start dating someone else, then just let them under sleep, maybe, I don't know, made it make it look like a heart attack or something.
Starting point is 01:54:06 Why wait for her to start dating someone else, then just let them date for a while, then give her her time to share secrets with them and secrets he could have shared with others. Like if they're so worried about these secrets, wouldn't they want to kill her as soon as possible, it just makes no sense. The royal family of course and I's having anything to do with her death. Other theories claim that the CIA, M15, M16, the governments of other countries all wanted her dead for her work with removing landmines. But if that's true, that really backfired.
Starting point is 01:54:31 She made that famous walk to an Angolan minefield in January of 1997. She dies in August, and then a few months later, the United Nations bans landmines. And since the band, 164 nations have signed on. So if they were killing her because they didn't want her to raise landmine awareness, the point landmines will be banned, that really fucking backfired. And quickly, numerous theories claim that Charles wanted to marry Camilla and needed her dead, but no, he didn't. I mean, he proved that, well, I'm sorry, he didn't prove that he didn't need her dead because
Starting point is 01:54:58 he got married. But if she wouldn't have died, I mean, they would have still got married. It just makes no sense. I don't know. After all the dying of related scandals, the queen relented in condone, Kamilis marriage to Charles. I don't know why she had to die for that to happen. There's never been any real strong evidence to support any of these theories.
Starting point is 01:55:14 Dynastia's death was almost certainly caused by the pop roti chase, and Dodifi had choosing to ask Henry Paul to drive them even though he was drinking and on antidepressants. You know, her death was a tragic accident. They could have been preventative if they were just wearing seatbelts. And her life was tragic in many ways. Born into such wells and privilege and luxury, but man, it came in a price, didn't it? The fairy tale turned out to be more of a curse, a burden,
Starting point is 01:55:38 and it led directly to her death. Had she not been fleeing from the paparazzi, she would have died that night. I'm sorry, she wouldn't have died that night. Goody wouldn't have called another driver who was originally off that day, to help them out. All that media coverage, man, would you want to be
Starting point is 01:55:53 that famous? I would not. Every time you leave your house, you know there's a good chance, someone is around gonna take your picture, waiting for you to mess up, maybe waiting to catch you with tears in your eyes and twist that into some scandal, create some false narrative.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Or maybe just catch you have like a bad hair day and just put out an embarrassing picture. Cameras waiting to take a picture of some bad angle. So they can run a story about you putting on weight, put that in the tablet covers. Cameras waiting to catch you at an angle that makes you look too thin, run a story about your bulimia. Cameras waiting to catch you, talk into a man who's not your husband, then run a story of a possible affair.
Starting point is 01:56:27 It sounds like hell. I mean, she was on the cover of something damn near every day for years. As being a princess and being able to live in giant mansions and castles on preposterously big lavish estates worth never been able to just pop into a Starbucks, grab a coffee, maybe read a book, never been able to just walk down the street, do some casual shopping, buy yourself, just to walk alone somewhere like that. You know, you can't ever just go meet friends
Starting point is 01:56:49 at a bar for a drink. You can't ever just, you know, go to a music festival. Just randomly dance with a bunch of other people and join, you know, themselves. There's so many things you don't get to do unless you're willing to be surrounded by bodyguards and constantly be photographed. No spontaneously popping into the movie theater because you suddenly feel the urge to watch
Starting point is 01:57:07 whatever's new, no running after the grocery store to grab a snack because you forgot something or meals for the week, not unless you want to be fucking mobbed. So maybe let the princess dream die. Maybe dream of being happy with life you have. Maybe don't waste a thing in the grass as greener on the other side. The grass is not necessarily greener, even if it's the grass in front of, you know, uh, bowel moral castle or parkhouse on sentry number state, or the grass in front of the Kensington Palace. Dying to live such an envious life for so many. You know, that's
Starting point is 01:57:37 really why people all over, you know, read all those tabloid stories about her. So aspirational, such a fantasy to live the life of a real princess, a beautiful princess, but she was fucking miserable. Sometimes dreams are best just left being dreams. Aren't they? Let's head over to today's top five, take aways. Time, suck, top five, take away. Number one, Diana was technically a commoner, but her life was far from normal.
Starting point is 01:58:03 She was born into extreme wealth. Her family status elevated when her father became an url. Diana grew up playing with Charles's siblings and her family had royal ties dating back several centuries. She was the perfect candidate to be a royal bride. Number two, Diana was unhappy from the beginning of a relationship with Charles. And it only got worse as time went on.
Starting point is 01:58:20 The stress of being in the spotlight triggered Diana into developing severe bulimia. She suffered from postpartum depression, anxiety, self-harm, even attempted to commit suicide by throwing herself down the stairs. Number three, both Diana and Charles had affairs during their marriage. Charles is a fairy with Camilla, has been widely covered and talked about, but Diana also had an affair with her writing instructor, Captain James Shewood and her bodyguard Barry Manicky.
Starting point is 01:58:42 Their affair lasted five years, Diana was in love with him. She and Charles both accepted equal responsibility for the failure of their marriage. 4. There are many conspiracy theories about the car crash that killed Diana, but almost all of them have zero evidence to support them. Eliminating the pregnancy of the royals didn't want his main one, but there are over a hundred conspiracy theory variation surrounding Diana's death. In reality, the car crash she died from was almost certainly a tragic accident
Starting point is 01:59:05 brought about by a bad combination of paparazzi harassment, drunk driving, drunk driving, and not wearing a seatbelt. And maybe my dad. Number five, new info. Ever since Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's wedding on May 19, 2018, people have noticed Meghan's similarities to Diana. Specifically, her tell-all interview with Oprah has been compared to Diana's 1995 BBC interview. In her Oprah interview, Megan tells details how
Starting point is 01:59:30 the royal family mistreated her and even makes allegations of racism directed at herself and her son Archie. The way she acts in public to a rule breaking and willingness to be honest about the realities of getting involved with the royal, Megan is eerily similar to Diana, but unlike Diana, she took her possible future king and they got the fuck out of that tabloid hell. With attention on them, waiting a bit more as time goes on, I hope they are so, so glad they did get out. Time sucked. Top five takeaways.
Starting point is 01:59:59 The tale of Princess Diana has been sucked. Fun excursion into a new kind of story, for me at least, I hope you enjoyed it too. I had a lot of thoughts about the royals and I was like, I feel like they don't really have a lot of power. I'm not so sure about these things and it was good to kind of confirm some things and learn some new things. Thank you to the Bad Magic Productions team for all the help and making time suck this week and every week.
Starting point is 02:00:25 We have a Bad Magic Lindsey Cummins, Reverend Doctrine Jill Paisley, Olivia Lee for doing all the initial digging into this week's research, Biddelixer, or continuing to refine the Time suck app. Logan Art Warlock Keith, runabadmagicmerch.com, the visual artist for all things, Bad Magic, our creative director here, working on our socials, along with Liz the Enchantress Hernandez. Liz runs our Colt of the Curious Facebook Private page, currently Colt of the Curious too, along with her wonderful, all-seeing eyes moderators.
Starting point is 02:00:54 Thank you for helping curate an awesome online community. Dear Meatzack Liston, thanks also to BeeStake and the Mod Squad running Discord. You can link to the Discord group through the TimeSuck app. Next week, the space Squad running discord. You can link to the discord group through the time suck app. Next week, the space hazards have spoken and they have voted in the topic of Robin Williams back to back biosex.
Starting point is 02:01:12 And neither one of them were murderers. Have we lost our way? No. The suck is always bounced around. We'll be back to darkness the week after that. Serial color will serial killer. We'll be coming up next. But first our first stand up comic, other than me.
Starting point is 02:01:24 What a story Robin Williams life is He spent 36 years in showbiz made over 100 movies During that time he won damn near every award. He could win. He came to us as an alien More can Mindy left as a true icon. I brought so much joy to so many He was also accused of being a joke thief by a number of comics and like so many of his era drug drugs and alcohol would become a problem joke thief by a number of comics. And like so many of his era, drugs and alcohol would become a problem, including taking the life of his friend,
Starting point is 02:01:46 SNL comedian John Belushi just hours after they partied together. Starting as a lonely rich kid that attended six schools in eight years to getting selected as one of two full scholarship future Thesbian's to Juilliard, to rising to worldwide acclaim in every field he tried. There was nothing ordinary about Robin Williams' life. He seemed to have so much energy.
Starting point is 02:02:04 How? It was also prone to depression. What haunted him? Why did he take his own life? It wasn't until after his autopsy that the depth of his suffering was revealed. And recent years efforts have been made to tell the true Robin Williams story with hopes to spread awareness about Louis body dementia. The fucking nightmare of a brain disease that he suffered from and help rally funding to research more aggressively towards a cure. Robin was born with a mind able to accomplish so much, but in a twist of the darkest irony that same mind would betray him in the end. Robin's story is one to be celebrated and celebrate we will also digging into some dirt next Monday on TimeSuck.
Starting point is 02:02:37 Now let's head on over to this week's Time Sucker updates. Love this first update. Concern and then comedy. Coming in from Wood, Love and Sec. Bow Morin, Bill Wrights. Hi, Dan and sub team. I just became a space wizard in an Annabelle. I've been listening to both podcasts for several months now and to be honest, I was pretty hesitant to give you a chance.
Starting point is 02:03:02 I emailed back and forth with Lindsey about this for a second after I fell in love with STD, but I think it's worth studying again. I was pretty skeptical that as a trans person, your podcast would be a good space for me. Luckily, my love for ghost stories, I weighed my fear and I finally gave STD a shot. I was truly impressed by the bias awareness
Starting point is 02:03:18 that you display and by the balance of your perspective and pretty much haven't stopped recommending STD and time suck ever since. Anyways, I figured now is a good time to start throwing some money your way for a couple reasons. One podcast are my primary form of entertainment and honestly information,
Starting point is 02:03:30 so it's worth paying creators for the work in research and two, at least partially thanks to the example you lead and the examples of a lot of other suckers who have written in gearing up for a career change. I've been a hobby woodworker for a couple years and recently enrolled in Carpentry Construction Courses to pursue it as a career that might make me happier than my current desk job.
Starting point is 02:03:47 So, you know, I might not have extra money to throw the podcast for much longer, but hopefully I'll be a lot happier. Thanks for everything, Bo. Bo, I love your approach to your new career, right? Trying to monetize what you're passionate about. You have a desk job, but you're taking classes, you know, you're sneaking in the right way,
Starting point is 02:04:02 I think, learning how to do it right before you jump in. I think you're gonna do very well in construction because even before the labor shortage, there was a construction worker shortage in a lot of markets around the country. So much work here in Corde de Laine, one of many cities where there's a lot of knee hollage. Shit, contractors around here, many of them
Starting point is 02:04:19 from what I understand have never had this much work. So fucking get it! Get that sweet, sweet wood! And yeah, I don't care if you're at all of your trends. Dick, pussy, doesn't matter. What matters is what's in your head. Because what's in your head is what's in your heart and that's who you really are.
Starting point is 02:04:34 The rest is just a set decoration, isn't it? That being said, I hope you're happy with your set deck. Hope you have either a nice heart, deck to jerk or a nice wet pussy to do. Right, I hope you have a nice clip with a fucking diamond like Queen Elizabeth does. You should write Queen Elizabeth and ask her, hey, what size is your clip diamond again? If you have, I didn't, you know, there was no gender reference in the message. So, or you could get, you could, you could have it on a Prince Albert.
Starting point is 02:05:01 You could have a diamond on a Prince Albert wherever you want. Live it up, you beautiful bastard. Hail Nimrod and Hail Lucifino to you and appreciate the support, very kind to you. Now let's talk about the law. Law, you know, law dogs, right? You know, law around here, law dog. Let's talk about Cummins law.
Starting point is 02:05:16 Sweet Reptilian. Kirsten Killy writes, I Cummins lawed my husband. The first time writing in Loyal Lurker Lizard, Kirsten or Kirsten. God damn it, I don't know. K.I.R., I think it's, it's Kirsten. I'm gonna say's lot my husband. My first time writing in Loyal Lurker, Lizard Kirsten, or Kirsten, God damn it, I don't know. K-I-R, I think it's, it's Kirsten. I'm gonna say Kirsten. On a story of how I come as a lot of my husband,
Starting point is 02:05:31 I've been listening long enough to know better. I don't listen to my car. When I do listen to work, it's through Bluetooth, headphones, and I make sure the volume is turned all the way down on my phone, okay, something happens to my headphones. This incident was not from playing the podcast, but from talking about it loudly. My husband works on the network side of telecom,
Starting point is 02:05:45 so he gets to go into the data centers that house all the boxes that the internet goes through. They are bare bones, office buildings, with this stuff inside. That's, I found that fascinating. That's like some matrix shit to me. Yesterday, he lost his keys at this building, so he went in after dinner.
Starting point is 02:05:59 Today to go look for him is about 8.30 at night. We assume no one else was there. While he's looking for his keys, I'm following him around, talking to him about the Jody Aries episode. He's not a sucker, but he doesn't enjoy listening to me, tell him is about 838 night. We assume no one else was there. While he's looking for his keys, I'm following him around talking to him about the Jody Ares episode. He's not a sucker, but he doesn't enjoy listening to me tell him distilled versions of what he learned
Starting point is 02:06:10 or what I've learned that week. So we walk into a backstore room with ceiling high shelves. I'm currently at the part about the photos of Jody's loophole that were recovered from the camera. That's when we hear from the next row over, hey, I'm in here. My husband's startle, get startled. We look over to see a coworker of his on a laptop
Starting point is 02:06:26 going through the inventory on that shelf. Thankfully, the coworker also has a dirty sense of humor, but I'm sure it was still weird to hear someone walk in talking about photos of buttholes. We all had a good laugh, so no harm done. And proof that you don't have to have the podcast on to be a victim of the dreaded Cummins law. Stay awesome, give both jangles a bone and keep on sucking.
Starting point is 02:06:43 Kirsten killy Love it kirsten. Yeah dangerous to listen to this show out in public and also dangerous to talk about it out in public You know people don't understand if you're talking about stuff like you know queen Elizabeth's you know diamond and crusted click clip Thanks for sharing your poop hole loophole story. I hope you still talk about poop hole loophole in private Real quick message now my wife Lizzie's cousin Tony put in the shout out request when you're in Cleveland the other week. Maria Felinstein, I hope you're listening. Tony Carino put in a nice word for you.
Starting point is 02:07:12 He knows you're a big fan. And thanks for being a fan for me as well. And now he thanks for supporting the service industry message from SuperSucker, David Sackstrom. I love this, David Wright's, bad magic team. Thank you so much for your recent support
Starting point is 02:07:26 of the service industry. As you can see, I'm messaging you from my work account. Tijuana flats is a text, mechs, chain of Florida. Hopefully one day when you take a vacation down here, you will check us out. Come check out the Florida Man's Stories for Yourself plus the beaches are amazing. I'm 36 years old, I've been with flats for 17 years.
Starting point is 02:07:41 We barely survived the pandemic, which is one bank in the entire US, willing to give us the $10 million we needed to keep our 120 plus restaurants open. We had to close 12 restaurants, but they were money deathpins. Anyway, the company is crushing it right now. The demand for tacos is high. However, as you have pointed out, all of the employees are gone. Also, this new variant of COVID combined with the state going no mass at the absolute worst time, created new obstacles. I never had a deal with before even early in the pandemic. Back in late June, I worked 99 hours in one week as a manager at my locations. While we struggled to stay up with all three managers at one location going out with COVID, it almost the exact same
Starting point is 02:08:17 time. You talking about the GM of the comedy club running around and busing tables actually made me feel better. Point is, I just wanted to say thank you for your support and trying to stay and trying to calm down all the carons out there leaving their one star reviews. As part of my job is to respond to every guest inquiry or one star review. Also, wasn't sure if I should write to TimeSuck as we don't or scared of deaths because I think you've said something on all three podcasts. Thanks also for getting me through my drives in between restaurants. If by some chance you read this, I think it should be okay if you say the company's name.
Starting point is 02:08:46 As PT Barnum taught me, any publicity is good publicity. Not started with a long email. Three out of five stars, much love, David, Saturim, T1a Flat, South Florida Supervisor. David, wait a keep busing your fucking ass man. 99 hours in one week, that is no joke. I salute you man, much respect. That is some champion shit.
Starting point is 02:09:04 I love it. I spoke specifically about taking an easy on servers and small businesses right now and you'll do it all to shit your dealing with. Most, I think, is we dumb. The show would go paisley. Listen to it, if you haven't yet. But I did touch on it on all three podcasts, I think.
Starting point is 02:09:17 Yeah, things continue to be really hard on the service industry right now. I mean, things went from people who've not been able to work to not having any customers, often losing jobs to those who do have jobs right now. I mean, things went from people who have not been able to work, to not having any customers, often losing jobs, to those who do have jobs right now in the service industry, doing the work of like three, four people at a lot of places. So please, if you're frustrated with service somewhere, pay attention to what's really going on. Really trying to evaluate the real story there. If they're clearly running around trying to do their best and your takeout order is delayed, call the fuck down. If they're clearly short staffed, they're clearly running around trying to do their best and your, you know, to take out order is delayed,
Starting point is 02:09:45 call the fuck down, right? If they're clearly short staffed, you know, they're burn out and exhausted, cut them some slack. It's so fucking hard right now for them. Be patient, be extra kind. A lot of people dealing with a lot of extra shit right now. And, you know, delayed service, some service, lot better than no service, right?
Starting point is 02:10:02 And a lot of Karen's out there trying to, you know, once, I'll say the male version of Karen's like a chat. A lot of Karen's and chats trying to one-star places into oblivion right now. It is so selfish and just stupid, short-sighted. Also, if you're in Florida, go eat some of David's sweet ass tacos. I love tacos, now I'm hungry.
Starting point is 02:10:21 Thank you for the messages, everyone. Hope you enjoyed hearing them. And I don't even know what I'm talking about now, I'm just trying to find them, I'm pushing. Thank you for the messages everyone. I hope you hope you enjoyed hearing them and I don't even know I'm talking about now I'm just trying to find them pushes but We all did I had some bigger wrap up for that section of my head and it was just not there Thanks for listening to another bad magic production's podcast, me, Zach. Please do not marry a princess week if you know he's fucking someone else. And don't put up with Queen Elizabeth's bullshit. That's the one thing I want you to take away from this week. If Queen Elizabeth is giving you some shit, don't fucking take it. She has no real power, all right? Like
Starting point is 02:10:58 stop it. Get away from me. If Queen Elizabeth is following you around Hasselon Hughes, like fuck it go and get it. Or just walk faster faster She's 95. She's slow and keep on sucking Joseph I need you to come in here, please Yeah, I want you to clean the toilets. I command you. No, I'm not gonna- I'm your king. No, you're not. I have a lot of other things I have to do right now just because you're wearing that doesn't mean I'm gonna go clean the toilets.
Starting point is 02:11:32 I would like you to at least look at the toilets. I command you. I'm gonna go shit in one. I'll take it. Yes, I still got it. Still have the power. Feels nice. But still got it!
Starting point is 02:11:41 Still have the power. Feels nice.

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