Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 285 - The 2017 Las Vegas Shooting and Conspiracies Surrounding It

Episode Date: February 28, 2022

On the night of October 1, 2017, Stephen Paddock opened fire on a crowd attending the final night of the Route 91 Harvest Country Music Festival on Las Vegas’s famous StripLas Vegas, killing 58 peop...le and injuring more than 800, before turning a gun on himself. And then two more would die later of their injuries raising the final body count to 61. Although the shooting only lasted 10 minutes, the death and injury tolls made this massacre the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history. Today we look into who Stephen was, why he may have done what he did, and we examine conspiracies that surrounded the shooting, promoted by conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones. Enjoy and Hail Nimrod!The Bad Magic Charity of the month is SEO: Sponsors for Educational Opportunity. SEO's mission is to create a more equitable society by closing the opportunity gap for young people from historically excluded communities. To find out more, go to seo-use.orgWe're donating $13,680 to this great charity, which is 90% of the Patreon donation for this month.The other 10% - $1520 is going to the Cummins Family Foundation’s Scholarship Fund. (Will Probably Change Its Name) By the end of the year, hoping 10% of all of 2022's charitable contributions adds up to several great Bad Magician scholarships for 2023.Watch the Suck on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Aq9EJ6vGdNIMerch - https://badmagicmerch.com/  Discord! https://discord.gg/tqzH89vWant to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever happens to be our most current page :)For all merch related questions/problems: store@badmagicproductions.com (copy and paste)Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcastWanna become a Space Lizard?  Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcastSign up through Patreon and for $5 a month you get to listen to the Secret Suck, which will drop Thursdays at Noon, PST. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. You get to vote on two Monday topics each month via the app. And you get the download link for my new comedy album, Feel the Heat. Check the Patreon posts to find out how to download the new album and take advantage of other benefits.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 People are mysterious, even to themselves. Frank Latricia. The mystery of human existence lies not in just staying alive, but in finding something to live for. Fiodor Dostoyevsky. Both of these quotes make me think of Las Vegas mass shooters Steven Patek. Did he do what he did in part because he felt like he had nothing else to live for? Outside of planning and committing this tragic act? And, or I guess maybe, or did he even really understand why he was doing what he did on Sunday, October 1st, 2017, when thousands of people, roughly 22,000 people, were attending the final night of the Route 91
Starting point is 00:00:35 Harvest Country Music Festival on Las Vegas' famous strip. At 9.40pm, the festival's final performer, Jason Aldin, went on stage to close out the concert. He'd open up singing they don't know Followed by the only way I know Johnny Cash take a little ride a little more summertime and any old bar stool People were having fun the weather was perfect in that mid-70s sweet spot with no glaring sun beaten down on anyone slight breeze Just the lights from the strip the drinks were flowing thousands, singing along, lots of tight jeans and cowboy hats. They were enjoying the final minutes of a super fun country music field weekend and come
Starting point is 00:01:12 Monday morning, I'm guessing most of them will be flying back to their office jobs and normal day-to-day lives. Many were probably thinking that the worst that could happen to them was getting a drink spilled on them or getting shoved by some over eager concert goer, or maybe they drink a little too much and make some regrettable sexual decision, then lean on that age old idiom of what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:01:32 At 10.5 p.m. this reality was abruptly shattered by Stephen Patek. Aldeen was singing when she says baby, the last song here, anyone else would sing that night from the stage, the last song anyone would ever sing at the Harvest Country Music Festival. From the 32nd floor, the nearby Mandalay Bay Hotel, a hail of semi-automatic gunfire began to rain down
Starting point is 00:01:50 on unsuspecting concert goers. At first, most presidents seemed to think it was fireworks, but then they saw people nearby falling down and bleeding, or they felt a bullet pierced their skin. Chaos now erupted. As people ran for the exit, Stan Pena as they tried to get to safety, this unprovoked domestic terrorist attack went
Starting point is 00:02:06 off for 10 minutes until 1015 when the shooting abruptly stopped. In that short span of time 59 people would be dead or dying. 41 or 411 would be wounded by bullets and then thanks to the Stampean brought on by all this the injured count would climb to 867. Two more will later die of injuries relating to wounds they received that night, raising the total death toll to 61. One of the deaths of course would be the shooter. When law officers barged the door, leading into one of his two rented rooms at the Mandalay
Starting point is 00:02:35 Bay Hotel, they found Steve and a 64 year old real estate investor, living in Mesquite Nevada, lying dead from a self inflicted gunshot wound. His hotel room was filled with the brim with guns, ammo, scopes, other high-tech gear he'd used for the shooting. As investigators started the arduous task of piercing it all, piecing it all together, they found no note, no blog posts, no journal entries, nothing to find a motive. But then just a day later, the terrorist organization ISIS would claim responsibility for the attack, saying Patek was one of their agents. And Vegas Sheriff Joe Lombardo would say that there must have been several
Starting point is 00:03:08 gunmen as he tried to grapple with the magnitude of the carnage. Rumors of a terrorist attack began swirling. Sheriff Lombardo would later retract his statement, but by the time he did a circus of media pundits, politicians, conspiracy theorists, we're already often running with all kinds of unsubstantiated speculation. Media pundits spun sensationalism because as we've talked about time and time again, fear and hyperbole sell. Politicians mobilized to blame the attack on whatever or whoever suited their political
Starting point is 00:03:36 agendas and conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones. They went buck wild, talking about how they knew what the shooting was really about. Stephen Pattick was an antifa operative, or perhaps a member of the deep state, coordinating a false flag attack with a bunch of paid crisis actors. Do any of these conspiracies actually have any legs? Who was Stephen Patek? Why did he do what he did?
Starting point is 00:03:56 What conclusions did the FBI and Las Vegas police come to when they were done conducting their investigations into who Stephen was, why he did what he did? Do we have any satisfying answers today? Or will we never know why Nevada real turn his mid 60s or excuse me, real estate investor with no criminal history committed the deadliest mass shooting in US history? What the hell was Stephen Patic thinking when he took aim that October night through his hotel room window?
Starting point is 00:04:21 All of this madness and more today on another true crime, mystery and conspiracy edition of Time Suck. This is Michael McDonald and you're listening to Time Suck. You're listening to Time Suck. Happy Monday you stupid piece of shit! Get out of here! Stop listening! I want to be left alone for this episode, do it by myself. Jakey, sometimes I feel crazy and I say things. I didn't mean it. Welcome to the Cold to the Curious. You're always welcome here, I'm Dan Cummins, a sucking nader, doc holidays mustache stylist, Amish, lingerie model,
Starting point is 00:05:00 New Mexico prison relation specialist, and you are listening to Time Suck. Hail Nimrod, Hail Lucifina. Thanks for spending extra time with Lindsey and I lately. Praise both jangles and I hope touring is going well, triple M. I'm going to skip over my own tour announcement this week. I'll then say thank you, Orlando, for turning out some fun shows. And you can find all the rest of the dates of the spring, dncoma.tv, if you're curious. But now I need to announce something else, something where instead of me traveling to see you,
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Starting point is 00:06:42 There's cool shirts. When I first got really into like graphic tees as an adult, I got really into these Ames Brothers tees. And I had, there was like some cryptids fight each other on them. I remember one was like a unicorn and Sasquatch wrestling. And these, it's like our version of those. I don't think Logan knows about those shirts. But I'm just thinking of that now.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I'm so glad we have these in store. They're very, very just cool graphic tees inspired by the Appalachian Cryptid suck. If you don't see your favorite monster, you can let us know on Instagram which cryptids you would like to see next by using hashtag time suck cryptid and now off to this week's topic. My Nimrod guide my mind is we delve deep into some crazy water again. My Lucifina not distract me is to try to bring some reason to an unreasonable act. Today we're diving, of course, back into the realm of mass atrocities. While we've covered much bigger mass atrocities
Starting point is 00:07:29 before like the Armenian genocide or the Nazis Warsaw ghetto in World War II, I believe this is our just our second mass shooting event following suck number 201 on Columbine. Sadly, there have been so many others we could cover all right here in just the US like the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting where a gunman killed 49 or the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting where a gunman shot and killed 32 or the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in 2012 where 27 were killed just in the past few years alone gunman killed 23 and now pass a Walmart in 2019. Another doesn't kill in Virginia Beach that same year and just last year, 10 killed in a King's Super supermarket
Starting point is 00:08:08 and Boulder, Colorado. All terrible tragedies and there are so many others, but no mass shooting in US history has been more deadly than the one we're covering today. And it happened, you know, less than five years ago. But at least in my opinion, did not get near the same amount of media coverage as many of the others. Why is that? I wanted to cover this topic because I just knew so a little about it. You know, so I tried to find some answers along with research or Sophie Evans this week.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Who the fuck was Stephen Patek? Why did he open fire on unarmed conturgovers? To look at the 2017 Las Vegas shooting, we'll first look back at our previous coverage of Columbine to show how these two shootings were similar and also how they differed. Next, we'll look at how conspiracy theorists reacted to this tragedy in the days following October 1, 2017. A lot of different theories thrown out regarding who Stephen was, why this happened, and we'll examine several. Then we'll do our best to figure out why Stephen Patik, or sorry, who he was before heading into our time-stuck timeline and going,
Starting point is 00:09:08 you know, at some points, minute by minute in our coverage of a tragedy that would take dozens of lives and injure hundreds and hundreds of others. And then finally, before we recap, what we've went over and I share some final thoughts, we'll hop into another idiot of the internet segment, examining some YouTube comments left by people
Starting point is 00:09:23 who are positive, that they know who Stephen really was, and what really happened in Las Vegas in 2017. Open your eyes, sheeple! I doubt you'll agree with the conclusions that they've come to. Ah, or at least, I really fucking hope you will not agree with the conclusions they come to. Let us begin. You're going to revisit Columbine to kick things off here. Like I said, April 20th, 1999, two Columbine high school seniors, Eric Harris and Dylan Clebold. I believe I
Starting point is 00:09:57 I prefer to them as a bed wetty mama's boy and micro-pean stinking nuts in a few previous episodes. They unleashed a horrific attack on their classmates and teachers. They murdered 12 students, a teacher, moved it over 20 others before turning their guns on themselves. And in the aftermath, everyone wanted to know, of course, why? Why would they throw away their futures? And the futures of so many others in the seemingly senseless act? Was it because as many proposed, immediately following shooting, that they were social
Starting point is 00:10:23 outcasts who had been ruthlessly bullied by jocks for years who made their lives a living hell and they snapped and went on a rampage motivated by a desire to settle a score. That's what a lot of media outlets reported. The Washington Post said fellow Columbine students described them as a constant target of derision for at least four years. The Los Angeles Times said their peers considered the attack lethal payback for old taunts and prejudices. But Peter Langman is a psychologist
Starting point is 00:10:50 who specializes in studying school shootings and many other experts in the years that followed the shooting strongly disagree. Peter wrote, they both had a lot of friends. They both engage in school activities, out of school activities. They worked part-time jobs with some of their buddies at a pizza shop.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Both run a bowling league. Harris played on the school soccer team as a freshman sophomore, continued to play soccer in volleyball after school, right according to the sheriff's report. Clebold was in a fantasy baseball league, gone to prom with a female friend just a few days before the massacre.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Seemed to have had a great time. Langman added the Harris's personal writings, many of which were recovered after the massacre, revealed a variety of twisted so-called reasons for his desire to kill. He wanted to see himself as the law. He killed for the pure, sadistic pleasure of it. He killed because he felt according to these writings that the human race was only worth killing, and also as revenge for being teased.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Revenge was but one of many reasons, and seemingly not the biggest. Harris expressed desire to kill complete strangers in his writings, much more often than he wrote of wanting to kill those who he had felt wronged him. Finally, directly refuting the revenge mode of theory, Harris and Clebel did not kill any of the students that they had previously alleged to tease them despite hunting classmates for 45 minutes. The FBI would come to the same conclusion
Starting point is 00:12:03 that these two were not excessively bullied and that revenge did not factor primarily into their violent actions. They felt the two were gunning primarily for infamy. They'd bragged about dwarfing the carnage of the Oklahoma City bombing. Right, they decided that America was fucked, so fuck America. Harris once wrote his journal, is America supposed to be the land of the free? How come if I'm free, I can't deprive a stupid fucking dumb shit from his possessions if you leave them sitting in the front seat of his fucking van out in plain sight and in the middle of fucking nowhere
Starting point is 00:12:32 on a fri fucking day night, natural selection, fucker should be shot. They seemed to have done what they did because Eric Harris was a fucking psychopath with his superiority complex and Clebold was his deeply disturbed sidekick kind of henchman follower. They weren't grotesquely bullied teens, they were deranged assholes, and unfortunately deranged assholes don't need good logical reasons to kill. They don't have to provide us with
Starting point is 00:12:56 some satisfying moment of, aha, that, that right there. That's why I did it. Oh, okay. So now, if we just work on that in society, we can really help prevent the chance of this ever happening again. Fuck yeah, bro. File this act in the now we get it. So now we can prevent it. Not worry about it, folder. Now the nonsensicalness of it all so much scarier than bullied kids over reacting to bullies. At least in that scenario, as long as you're not doing the bullying, right? You don't have to worry about getting shot up by the bully, right? So much scary if it's random, or some shitty no one to say
Starting point is 00:13:29 from this notion of infamy, kind of act. So what was Steven's motive? Was it infamy as well? Did he also wanna lash out at strangers because of some superiority complex because fuck America and fuck Americans? Maybe. While Steven Patek and the Columbine shooters were,
Starting point is 00:13:46 about as different as different can be on the surface, Stephen was 64, wealthy retired man who didn't seem to have much in the way of a personality. The Columbine shooters were young teenage men who spent hours on the internet spewing hateful messages about being big fans Adolf Hitler, about how America was full of idiots, at least deserve to die,
Starting point is 00:14:02 you know, big personalities. Their underlying motives might have been pretty similar. And they did seem to share some personality traits. Patek like Eric Harris was described by some as an arrogant guy. Some did say he became more and more arrogant and also anti-government over the final years of his life. Didn't like the way the government taxed him was worried about the government taking his guns, etc. But a lot of people are both arrogant and anti-establishment and they don't shoot up a concert. What pushed paddock into action?
Starting point is 00:14:30 It's harder to determine than it was with the Columbine shooters. Steven didn't leave behind journal entries or blog posts pointing towards why he did what he did, much less social in general than the Columbine killers. Investigators were able to interview numerous friends of Harris and Clebold after the attack, so they could interview family that those two still lived with, right up until the day of the attack. Patik was more of a true loner, much more.
Starting point is 00:14:53 No close friends, it seems. He'd also really distance himself from his girlfriend in the final months leading up to the tragedy and doesn't seem like they really ever shared a deep relationship to begin with. There was no family he kept in close touch with, I would say, he had no real coworkers, just some property managers who managed some of his rentals
Starting point is 00:15:09 for him, usually from a distance. Very few records of any kind with Pat at compared to with Clee Bolden Harris. You know, at least they were being monitored by their schools and parents. Pat at least doesn't seem to have had a history of violent outbursts or instability. No journalists has been able to uh... uncover that at least
Starting point is 00:15:26 i can't find any arrest report for medical records that indicate that either and we'll get into a little bit of medical stuff but you know uh... the only time he ever sought psychiatric treatment was for anxiety and it was from his primary physician not a psychiatrist uh... just like millions of americans do every year so again why the fuck did you do it let's first look at the official word
Starting point is 00:15:45 from the government who are probably, if not definitely, deep state puppets covering this mess up for the reptilian masters. Same old fucking story. Oh, no, the best, the the investigators come up with regarding the motive was that he was having a hard time coping with old age, failing health and money problems. And like the Columbine killers, he wanted infamy. He wanted to go out and blaze a glory, make a name for himself after a lifetime of being a little more than your average upper-middle class
Starting point is 00:16:11 white dude. But there's a lot of conjecture with that assessment. More of an educated guess, and a guess less educated than with the Columbine shooters. I'll get into a lot more detail about the official assessment, you know, later once we know more about Stephen down in the timeline. For now, just know that for many, the lack of official answers, you know, red continues to read as a cover up.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Many of us, when interpreting tragedies like this in the absence of any obvious definitive motive, our brains tend to go a little bit fucking crazy. They'll crack, crack. In the last 20 years, particularly in the last 10 numerous studies have been conducted to try and figure out why that is. Examining the relationship between the need for cognitive closure, levels of belief in real-world conspiracy theories, and the attribution of conspiracy theories to explain events. The results of these studies are in short, when the world does not provide us an answer
Starting point is 00:16:59 to something, rather than accept we might not ever know that answer, a lot of us assign an answer so we can have cognitive closure. Right? Okay, now I got it. You know, book closed, let's read a new book. And the more conspiratorially minded you are, the more likely it is for that answer to be a conspiracy. And if you're real conspiratorially minded,
Starting point is 00:17:18 you'll even assign conspiracy related answers to events that we do seem to have, you know, good answers for, such as a shooting where we seem to definitely understand the shooter's motivation, right? Take the 2016 Orlando Pulse nightclub shooting. A lot of conspiracies around that one too. On that shooting the attacker Omar Matin, born to Afghan American Muslim parents, told law enforcement that the 2016 attack on the nightclub where Omar killed 49 people before
Starting point is 00:17:41 being shot and killed by law enforcement was done in retaliation for recent American military airstrikes on Iraq and Syria. He explicitly stated his motive. He might also been lying. I think he was, but we have to consider what he said as a possibility. A lot of people including me think he did what he did because he was a angry, closeted homosexual and his self-hate drove him to target a gay nightclub. There's a lot of evidence for that.
Starting point is 00:18:05 His father later said that a few months before the attack, his son had seen two grown men kissing, and just became like wildly infuriated. An onname police academy classmate said Matin asked him out around 2006, but they spent time at gay bars together after class that he believed Matin was definitely gay. The man who self-identified his Matin's lover of two months,
Starting point is 00:18:24 Miguel, my god, I do wanted it every time. I can't, Miguel is my nemesis word, name. I apologize to all the Miguel's out there, but I did correct myself immediately, but it's never gonna go away. Miguel stated that he, I should almost do it just to anger people. Miguel, no Miguel stated that he believed
Starting point is 00:18:43 the massacre was out of a revenge against Latino men. When Matin learned he may have been exposed to HIV from a Puerto Rican man, or Puerto Rican man with whom he had sex with. Matin's ex-wife claimed that his father called him gay while in her presence, speaking on her behalf, her current fiance, said that she is family. Numerous others believed he was gay. Numerous other men came forward saying that he'd either asked them out or that Mattine had sexual relationships with them.
Starting point is 00:19:07 He'd use a variety of gay dating apps, like Grindr. Despite all this motive for either retaliation or a hatred of himself slash homosexuals, rumors abounded that the attack was part of some deep state illuminati, false flag bullshit, involving, you know, crisis actors, et cetera. And with even less possible plausible motives, known for Stephen Patek's mass shooting, you know, terms like deep state, false flag, crisis actors swirled around with much more
Starting point is 00:19:31 intensity. And no one pushed more conspiratorial possibilities when it came to this attack than Alex Jones. In 2016, telecast on Jones' show Info Wars, he would say about Patek, they found Antief information in the room. The whole thing has the hallmarks of being scripted by deep state democrats and the islamic allies using mental patient cutouts uh... fucking what
Starting point is 00:19:55 mental patient cutouts it's it's fucking depressing how successful aliex is been uh... considering he's either really crazy really fucking stupid, really manipulatively evil or all three. I wouldn't, I honestly wouldn't mind tying Alex Jones to Nancy Grace and to some other people with big audiences who spread, you know, speculation and or lies as how could
Starting point is 00:20:17 anyone not believe this indisputable fact and then just toss them all aside of a boat and some deep cold water. You want to speculate that there are deep state Democrats using mental patient cutouts behind something. Okay, fine. I mean, I think that even entertaining and an idea that fucking stupid makes you and everyone who finds you credible look like ass clowns, but okay, speculate about whatever you want. It's good to discuss things from different viewpoints, even when those viewpoints are fucking
Starting point is 00:20:43 absurdly insane when trying to solve mysteries. You know, it's good to have discourse and different viewpoints, even when those viewpoints are fucking absurdly insane when trying to solve mysteries. Now, it's good to have discourse and learn from each other. But when you say that they found evidence of Antifa in his room, things like that, that has all the hallmarks of deep state attack, fuck you. They never, they never found evidence of Antifa. They've never had hallmarks of some deep state attack.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Think about how crazy this belief is, right? Just use your capable of logical deduction brain for a few minutes to create the scene. Let's imagine the scene that Alex is presenting as being obviously factual. The Las Vegas strip is busy, very busy, almost always. Certainly when this concert went down, it was packed. I've been there many times, 22,000 at the concert plus, even if they were all crisis actors, 10 to thousands of others in the immediate Wandering around you know doing their other gambling and whatnot going to shows and Joe just saying that on the Vegas strip People seeing fleeing from shots or having been shot in photos released in the days following shooting and I've seen a lot of these photos And videos. It's terrible. Uh, they're what mental mental patient cutouts like like like did a photo shoot before October 1st
Starting point is 00:21:45 new patient cutouts like like like did a photo shoot before October 1st, then a big group, I guess just planted a bunch of cardboard cutouts around the concert ground so they could do like a photo shoot. Then in this scripted event to make videos from the attack look legit, deep state, Democrats hired crisis actors, I guess, to run around just pretending to hear gunshots, you know, in the videos I've seen, I guess Jason Aldin and his band, I mean, they had to have been in on it too. All the other country acts that perform that day, right? All acting because otherwise they'd be like, Hey, what the fuck are these cardboard cutouts doing it? There should be an audience here. Why is it cardboard cutouts? Thousands
Starting point is 00:22:16 of people who were near the concert based on video evidence, I guess they were all in on it since no one came forward and talked about how it was all fake. Everyone in the hotels, numerous hotels around them, thousands of windows, you know, where tens of thousands of guests were staying. They could just look down and see the concert. I mean, they were all in on it. Concert for motor live nation.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Also in on it. They all worked together. Like this was some massive, well-cast, Hollywood, blockbuster production. And they've all kept it a secret ever since. They've kept the FBI or the police from uncovering the secret or the Vegas police and the FBI, all so part of this production, right?
Starting point is 00:22:49 Deep state, they're in on it. Now all of them, no officers or agents have come forward to rat them out. And well, hopefully you get how fucking crazy this is. Right, how can you explain believing in something like that other than you either haven't thought about it much or you're just not smart in some ways like at all. Some fans of Alex Jones, after hearing she liked this, would harass the victims of the
Starting point is 00:23:11 shooting while they were in the fucking hospital recovering from bullet wounds. People posted a horrible shit on their social media feeds about how they were making it all up, stop it, you deep-state crisis actors. You have to be stupid or crazy or just a real piece of shit to do that. My God. Before we learn more about Alex Jones, uh, now since he benefited greatly from point gas and conspiracy fire, he set regard in the shooting, probably should define three terms that I'll use a lot and have already used several times that relate to the conspiracies around the Las Vegas shooting, right? Starting with the deep state. The deep state is a type of governance made up of potentially
Starting point is 00:23:46 secret and unauthorized networks of power operating independently of a state's political leadership in pursuit of their own agenda and goals. In popular usage, the term carries overwhelmingly negative connotations. Journalist David Road wrote a book about this term, how to vault, called in deep, the FBI, the CIA, and the truth about America's, quote unquote, deep state. David says the term originally showed up in the nation of Turkey a few decades ago, referencing their military using plain clothes, operatives to infiltrate certain revolutionary circles in an effort to squash out people with actual democratic ideals who didn't want to live in a, you know, fake't want to live in a fake
Starting point is 00:24:26 dictatorship. A fake democracy, excuse me, dictatorship pretending to be a democracy. Then the term next showed up in Egypt, applied to their military doing basically the same thing there. The term seemed to have first showed up in the US in 2007 in a book called The Road to 9-11, Wealth, Empire, and the Future of America, written by a University of California Berkeley professor named Peter Dale Scott, who used to describe the US military industrial complex.
Starting point is 00:24:52 To find as a country's military establishment and those industries producing arms or other military materials regarded as a powerful vested interest. And back in 2007, it was used by liberals to describe a group of powerful conservatives like military contractors such as Halibut. Working with other powerful conservatives in the White House on Capitol Hill and the Pentagon to wage war under false pretenses to make lots and lots of money, you know, C-9-11 conspiracies. And then since 2007, it has evolved to be used to describe some sort of vague, nefarious
Starting point is 00:25:23 liberal agenda, right? Some kind of shadow, illuminati, satanic government, maybe lizards, run by liberals who wanted to destroy conservatives and who just hate freedom and hate everything, you know, good. Pretty funny that the term evolved from being a term used to describe actual shadowy government forces in Europe and Africa to be determined used by the left to slander the right, to then be determined used by the right to slander the left. And with each usage and its evolution, it seems to get a little more grandiose and a little more absurd.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Now the Deep State equals a nefarious, puppet, master, shadow, government, very exfiles, smoking man, you know, kind of bullshit. Lizard people, secret league of Zionists, Jewish bankers, Rockefellers, everyone put their own, you know, spin on it. Second term is false flag. Or false flag operation.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And a false flag operation is a hostile or harmful action such as an attack that is designed to look as if it was perpetrated by someone other than the personal group actually responsible for it. And there have, for sure, been very real false flag operations that have happened throughout history. We've touched on several and various sucks. One of the best known historical examples of a false flag operation, a real one was mounted by Nazi Germany in 1939 as justification for kicking off World War II.
Starting point is 00:26:37 The Gestapo staged a Polish raid on a German broadcasting tower at Gleavitz in current day Poland. Nazis left behind a deadly saboteur in reality, a German farmer with Polish sympathies who'd been shot by the Gestapo, as well as several dead Germans who in reality were concentration camp prisoners killed and dressed as German guards, says David Silby, a Cornell University historian. Silby said Hitler used these incidents to justify the invasion of Poland. Another example was the Mugden incident of 1931, in which the Japanese army blew up a section of railway line in northern China to justify
Starting point is 00:27:11 its invasion of Manchuria. In 1939, the Soviet village, the border with Finland, was involved in a false flag operation with Soviets firing on their own border post as a pretext for invading Finland. Credible historians don't seem to think that operations like these have happened very often at all, but people who are very conspiratorially minded, they think it happens all the time. It's constantly happening. And with the 2017 Las Vegas shooting conspiracists claimed it was a false flag operation carried out with a goal of gun seizures. Guns are dangerous, so we must make them illegal and confiscate them, say at the deep state
Starting point is 00:27:42 luminonity, but that didn't happen. The most infamous example of a false flag operation in US history, this verified any way is Operation Northwoods. And we examined that in suck 52 on 9-Eleven conspiracies. And again, in suck 175, declassified military, you know, docs. This plan proposed 1962 by the US military to kill Americans and or what it was it was proposed by the US military in 1962. It was a plan to kill Americans and blame the attack on Cuba's Fidel Castro, thereby offering a reason to invade and depose the Cuban dictator. The civilian leadership and the Kennedy administration rejected the proposal before it could be carried out and then it was declassified four decades later.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Obviously super fucked up that it was even proposed. But it doesn't lead me straight into worrying about an aferious deep state. I mean, they were spitballing, and a couple dudes, you know, they took shit a little far. I mean, if I was spitballing and trying to come up with good reasons to attack communist Cuba, who the fuck knows what kind of crazy shit I might propose?
Starting point is 00:28:38 Have we considered Newt in the island until there's nothing left but rocks and roaches? Let it cool off for 20, 30 years, maybe send some prisoners down there. After a decade, if they don't have three eyeballs, we open up for resettlement, let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go.
Starting point is 00:28:57 I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it go. I, easy to carry out. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Again, it didn't happen. It wasn't carried out. It's a quick go-to now for conspiracists because it's hard to prove any random tragedy is not a false flag operation. Okay, finally, there is crisis actors. These people are, supposedly people are integral to false flag operations. A crisis actor is Nicholas Cage in 80% of his movies. It's a great actor who signed on for a terrible project because he's always having money problems
Starting point is 00:29:32 and he's always in crisis. Of course not. No, a crisis actor is a person who takes part in a supposed conspiracy to manipulate public opinion by pretending to be a victim of an event such as a bombing, mass shooting, or natural disaster. Unlike a fall slag operation, there is literally no proof that crisis actors have been used ever, at least not in the US, at least not by that name. Conspiracy theorist used to this term as thought to have originated in 2012.
Starting point is 00:29:58 When a blog post by former Florida Atlantic University communications professor and professional conspiracy theorist, uh, fucking legit weirdo. James Tracy suggested that the government could be, uh, have hired a acting agency named Vision Box to help stage the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. Tracy was then fired by Florida Atlantic for contacting Lenny Posner, father of one of the children killed in the Sandy Hook shooting, uh, and demanding that this guy show him his son's death certificate. So you know, fuck James Tracy. We'd like to throw him off the same boat that I want to throw Nancy Grayson Alex Jones off of.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Tracy thinks that the Boston Marathon bombing never happened. A bunch of crisis actors there that basically all mass shootings are fake, deep state, false flag operations riddled with crisis actors weird uh... some of those crisis actors have actually written into time stock over years uh... actually met a crisis actor in Seattle at one of my stand-up shows shortly after the loss of a issue uh... she hugged me she cried and everything she seemed to be suffering from PTSD based on what she witnessed
Starting point is 00:30:58 uh... sorry i mean based on what she was trained to say by the deep state she witnessed uh... she was a very good actor, very convincing. Conspiratorially, I do understand the attraction of crisis actors, right? I see other concepts fits nicely in with the deep state and the false flags and the mass shootings, right? The deep state wants to take away our guns,
Starting point is 00:31:17 so they can slave us and then, I don't know, harvest our kids at Dream of Chrome or some shit, so they can live longer and I don't know, I'm a less more kids for, I don don't know to make Satan happy or maybe sacrifice us to their reptilian overlords or Maybe have us work in mono atomic gold mines for the lizard people whatever they want to do to us It's always a little vague and confusing You know getting our guns helps them do that which I get right? I see where they're coming from there and then in order to have us, you know
Starting point is 00:31:42 Vote away our own gun rides. They got it, they got to scare us with false flag operations like mass shootings. Okay, all right, I still see some logic. False flag operations could make the transition to us living in FEMA cages or being shipped to some area 51 alien death labs a little smoother, fine. But then the notion of crisis actors,
Starting point is 00:32:00 well, that's pretty hard to get behind, right? Using local actors to pull off something like convincing the world that a mass shooting has happened. I just, I don't see it. Here's the thing. Have you ever watched local commercials? Organ to a community theater production?
Starting point is 00:32:16 Are some of the actors good? Yeah. Sure. Absolutely. Or a lot of them good. Oh, man, fuck no. Do they seem like they have the chops, the acting chops, to pull off something of this magnitude?
Starting point is 00:32:28 No, hard no, hard no. The deep state has to give right them back stories that are gonna be hard to pull off long-term, like in the standing hook shooting, you know, how do they get so many people to corroborate the lie that the parents, you know, who lost their kids, actually had those kids before, and raised them their whole lives. I mean, think about that. I mean, they know, who lost their kids actually had those kids before and raised them
Starting point is 00:32:45 their whole lives. I mean, think about that. I mean, they got to, they got to like, fudge, I do a lot of Photoshopping, I guess. And then when people do interviews later with other family members, they got to get them on the story. Or, I mean, these kids are their,
Starting point is 00:32:56 they're in Facebook feeds, you know, with family members. They're in class photographs. How, how is all of of that fate to so many people uh... all their fake extended family members right have to hold a lie the fake parents of their fake friends who had they had fake sleepovers with the guy fake little e coaches who fake coach them for several fake seasons all their fake teammates
Starting point is 00:33:16 i mean it just keeps unraveling think about the fake friends and fake family members of the fake lost baguist shooting victims it would take to pull off some kind of crisis after operation i mean if you think about all of this, just a little bit, I think you can only keep genuinely believing it if, you know, again, and I don't know how to say that, maybe you're stupid, or fucking crazy, or both.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Like, what are you fucking doing with your brain? How, if you're listening to this podcast, I'm amazed you can figure out how to use a podcast and also think that. That's how crazy I think it is. It's very depressing. How so many people can just, um, seem incapable of just completing that simple mental exercise. I just laid out. All of us living in some kind of simulation for me is way easier to accept logic wise than deep state plus false flag plus crisis actor bullshit for just almost any scenario. The simulation being manipulated by some in-game deep state, okay fine, right? All bets are off if we're living in some fucking advanced version of Sims.
Starting point is 00:34:12 But this, this nonsense, come on. Please use your brain. It defies so much logic. Alex Jones, big crisis actor guy. He played a huge role in popularizing conspiracies around the Las Vegas shooting. All this stuff, deep state false flag, crisis actor guy. He played a huge role in popularizing conspiracies around the Las Vegas shooting. All this stuff, deep state false flag, crisis actor bullshit, he loves it.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And then two other idiots, we'll learn about in today's timeline, Brad Johnson, Rich Higgins, well they'll take Jones' theories, run with him further, implicating another man as being part of this deep state plot, who was just some random fucking dude in Vegas for the weekend, and they'll turn his life into a living nightmare. To be randomly slandered by conspiracy nuts for being in the wrong place the wrong time, what a strange way for your life to take a turn for the worse. Anyway, the 2017 shooting was not
Starting point is 00:34:54 Alex Jones's first rodeo when he came to spreading misinformation about a massive tragedy. That fake ass truth or had already been profiting off a spread in lies about tragedies for years. Clearly, I'm really not a big fan of this guy. Back when a young Alex Jones was in community college in Austin, Texas in 1995, he first started accusing the government of being behind the Oklahoma City bombing on public access channels in Austin. False lag operation, right? He liked the responses anger got.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Right? He started building his brand. We covered that bombing in episode one at a time, so in 1999 Alex Jones found it in full wars. Wikipedia defines it as an American far right conspiracy theory and fake news website. Yeah, that's like the nice way to describe it. Fake as fuck news lies peddled to so called truthers, right? Who have their eyes open?
Starting point is 00:35:42 Seeing what the rest of us can't. It's very depressing. These days the Info Wars website receives approximately 10 million monthly visits, making it's reach greater than some mainstream news websites, such as the Economist and Newsweek. Don't get kicked off a YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, even Apple to pass a couple of years. It seems to have been good for his anti-establishment. I'm so honest, I'm dangerous brand. They're afraid of how much truth I've got. You know, he's got a lot of press out of all that bullshit.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Well, Jones has stated, I'm not a business guy, I'm a revolutionary. Oh, which fucking, again, I want to fucking throw him off the boat. He is a business guy. And some ways at least, he is a very good business guy, very smart. I wanted to be dumb, but I don't think it's that. I think he's just very conniving. I think he's very manipulative, faking bravery to make lots and lots of money. He's a fucking clown. He spends much of his info, wars, airtime, pitching dietary supplements and survivalist products, right? Bring him in with tragedy, sell him some vitamins.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Looking at his products, doing this research, you can buy some brain force plus right now, one of his top selling items he's had for many years. Here's the opening line. Oh my gosh, for this product description, it's so infuriating. This is like, this is one of his top selling products. He's made millions off of this and this is the opening line of its product description.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Top scientists and researchers agree. We are being hit by toxic weapons in the food and water supply that are making us fat sick and stupid That sounds like some shit that I would make up for one of my fake ads How does this should work? Top scientists you guys they agree the were being hit by toxic weapons make us fat sick and stupid That sounds exactly like something that top scientists say if I top scientists you mean fucking Dr. Steve Brul From Tim and Eric, awesome show, great job.
Starting point is 00:37:27 It's so dumb. And he has a massive audience that eats a shit up. It's fucking painful. By 2013, Alex Cytwald of Salon estimated the Jones was earning as much as $10 million a year between subscriptions, web and radio advertising and sales of DVDs, t-shirts, and you know, a lot of vitamins. Well, I guess it wasn't quite vitamins yet. He would get into it right after that. That year Jones changed his business model to incorporate selling proprietary dietary supplements.
Starting point is 00:37:54 In 2014, Jones claims that infowars were accumulating over $20 million in annual revenue, over $20 million. Fun fact, a significant portion of infowars products contain colloidal silver, which Jones claims kills every virus, including the whole SARS-Corona family. And that is for sure not true. That is not true. This has been aggressively disputed by the FDA and so many medical organizations. Colloidal silver is fucking snake oil.
Starting point is 00:38:22 We have mocked it for a couple of years on a variety of episodes of the secret suck on Patreon. Here's what the Mayo Clinic, which has been one of the, if not the top hospital in the country for many, many years, here's what it has to say about colloidal silver. Supplements containing colloidal silver aren't considered safe or effective for any of the health claims manufacturers make.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I like that, just straight out the back. None of it. Silver has no known purpose in the body. It's not an essential mineral. Colloidal silver products are made of tiny silver particles, suspended in a liquid. The same type of metal used in jewelry, dental fillings, and silverware. I feel like this is like the snarkiest of male clinic kits. Manufacturers of colloidal silver supplements often promote their products
Starting point is 00:39:03 by claiming that silver can boost immune system fight infection and treat cancer. Yep, it's self-fucking sad people dying of cancer taking it. However, no sound scientific studies evaluating these health claims have been published in reputable medical journals. In the US, the Food and Drug Administration and the Federal Trade Commission have taken action against several companies for making unproven health claims regarding colloidal silver. When taking my mouth, silver builds up in your body. Over months to years, this can result in a blue, gray discoloration of your skin, eyes, internal organs, nails, and gums. Fuck yeah, bro.
Starting point is 00:39:36 So, Cloidal Silver, very good to take. If you're looking to have blue, gray skin, and you want some sexy ass, blue, gray, internal organs and eyeballs, but not very good, if you want to cure literally anything at all. Eating dirt or gravel or drinking some kind of smoothie made up out of a ground up carpet and old GI Joe action figures and aluminum cans and pencil shavings, it would provide you with roughly the same health benefits as colloidal silver. Whipple, probably better for benefits as colloidal silver, whipple, probably better for you than colloidal silver.
Starting point is 00:40:08 So how has Alex Jones built this big audience of people willing to buy shit like colloidal silver? By ranting nonstop about everything for the new world order, turning Americans into sheep, did the truth behind the moon landing being faked, to the Illuminati, Kim Trailing Us, 9-11 beating inside job, false flag operation, and so much more.
Starting point is 00:40:24 He was one of the edits who pumped up belief in pizegate. I covered that in episode 64 and was shocked, but I got a lot of angry emails. Blown away, the people could believe in such a, this is so fucking stupid, it makes my head hurt conspiracy. On December 4, 2016, a man named Edgar Madison Welch. Welch, I guess instead of Welch, drove from North Carolina to Washington, DC armed with an AR-15 to rescue children. He was convinced we're being held captive as part of a sex ring in the basement of Comut Pizza.
Starting point is 00:40:53 When he found no children and realized the pizza place doesn't even have a fucking basement. Welch 28 surrendered to police and told them he thought Hillary Clinton and former president Clinton, chief of staff and Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta were running some kind of state panic pedophile ring. Sweet Jesus. You can't stand Hillary. Okay fine. But why leave the insane conclusion that she's running a massive pedophile ring especially
Starting point is 00:41:17 in America where it'd be so much easier to get caught than if she did in some third world country. It just it doesn't even come close to making sense. And I'm not the president of her fan club. I don't fucking care about Hillary Clinton. I don't like most career politicians. I also just don't assume that the ones I really don't like are in pedophile rings.
Starting point is 00:41:35 It's so weird. Now the Pete's Gate conspiracy, I'll start it back in October of 2016. When WikiLeaks began publishing leaked emails from the Clinton campaign director and social media users began to theorize they contained food related code words such as Cheese pizza. Hello That actually means child pornography
Starting point is 00:41:55 Sea stands for cheese sea stands for child. Peace stands for pizza. Peace stands for pornography bingo bingo They got to say tannin pitiful ring December 2016 Jones posted a video saying he had zero fear of standing up to Clinton, even though he knew that she had definitely personally murdered children. Even though he knew she was a demon from hell who smelled of sulfur. He's actually sent you like that. He's that insane. Using the hashtag, you know, Pizzagate, he pushed the notion that Pidesta had dined at common pizza
Starting point is 00:42:26 because it was, you know, the headquarters of an underground pedophile ring. And that also doesn't make sense. Like, why are you gonna have pizza there? If you're running an international pedophile ring and you got a bunch of kids and cages and you don't wanna draw attention to yourself, you don't wanna get caught for having all these kids and cages.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Fucking eat anywhere but that place. Like why are you then just casually upstairs and be like hmm, I might as well enjoy some, you know, pepperoni pizza while I'm here. You know, kids can wait 20 minutes. December 4th, 2016, Alex Jones uploaded a YouTube video that linked Pizza Gate to the November 13th death of a sex worker rights activist.
Starting point is 00:42:58 He was sort of was trying to save kids from being sexually tortured and killed after being sex trafficked from Haiti, you know, by the Clint's. They're very busy with all the kids. And he got Edgar Madison Welsh so fucking worked up, he almost killed a bunch of people who were just trying to enjoy some pizza sizes. Don't take into the air and said, P.H.T.G.A.T. is real, and he urged his listeners to go
Starting point is 00:43:16 investigate it for yourself, writing his Joan Dwayne. Go investigate it for yourself, or pitch it into real. Hillary Clinton throws up so far, like his fucking the heads always about to explode when he talks. How's that guy not died of a heart attack yet? Well, it's a faithful Info Wars listener who often shared the website articles took him up on that. And then that weasel, Jones,
Starting point is 00:43:34 retracted all the Petzigate shit in early 2017 to avoid being prosecuted for libel. The whole Petzigate didn't pan out for Jones business wise. He looked like an ass when he backtracked on it all. But a mass shooting where 20 little kids died back in 2012 would get Info Wars a ton of ratings. Right? Students have been some of Info Wars biggest hits, which makes sense in a sick fucked up way. Without a clear motivation on the part of the shooter, Jones and his employees are free to step up and claim anything they want. With Patek, you know, they'll say he's
Starting point is 00:44:01 everything from a member of ISIS, deep state employee, left his plant, member of Antifa, on and on and on. Infoers learned how to milk money out of mass shootings back with Sandy Hook on December 14, 2012, 20-year-old Adam Lanza Fadley shot his mom at their new new town. Excuse me, Connecticut home before going to Sandy Hook Elementary The elementary school killing 21st graders and six teachers, then killed himself as police arrived on the scene. Why did Adam do it? Well, one thing, he was clearly mentally ill, like, do an image search for him. I mean, I can tell something was very, very wrong with him. And literally every picture I can find, like truly photogenically insane. He was diagnosed with Asperger's age 13, but after his death, Dr. Speculated, he had a lot more going insane. He was diagnosed with Asperger's age 13,
Starting point is 00:44:45 but after his death, doctor speculated he had a lot more going on. He was very likely psychotic, suffering from paranoid schizophrenia and all like that amongst other serious disorders. He did shit like contribute frequently before the shooting to a forum called Shocked Beyond Belief that focused specifically on mass murders
Starting point is 00:45:03 and mass murderers, right? He was a very into that thing. Maybe that's a bit of an indicator as to why he did what he did. And I could go on and on with more evidence for his motives, but this episode is not about Sandy Hook. Should probably suck that sad, sad topic someday though. Alex Jones did not share the information about Adam
Starting point is 00:45:20 with his audience that I just shared with you. Of course not. Real information doesn't play well to the Info Wars audience. They want big blockbuster deep state conspiracies. Right. That's just way more exciting. You know, if you have a junior high intellectual level and truly think that life is some kind of fucking Michael Bay movie and Alex gives that shit to his audience. Jones portrayed the shooting as a hoax on Info Wars involving crisis actors, a false flag operation aimed at increasing gun control. He said the parents of the murdered first graders,
Starting point is 00:45:48 six and seven year olds who were fluckin' murdered by a psychopath were paid crisis actors. That's an evil thing to do. And he would beat that evil drum for years. He said on his November 18th, 2016 broadcast, I watched a lot of soap operas. And I've seen actors before, and I know when I'm watching a movie and when i'm watching something real
Starting point is 00:46:07 come on everybody uh jones total profit that day a hundred and three thousand five hundred and thirteen dollars so much money and lies if you tell the right ones uh you make so much money if you just don't have any morals at all uh meanwhile people who believe those false claims accosted members of these poor families in the fucking street. They heckled, they harassed them at events honoring their slain children, abused them online, contacted them at their homes, threatened their lives. The parents of Noah Posner, the youngest Sandy Hook victim whose parents were the first to sue Mr. Jones, moved, they've moved nearly 10 times since the shooting and live in hiding, currently mainly due to being harassed by conspiracy fox Who follow fuckheads like Alex Jones and I guess we have nothing better to do than just harass you know people like this
Starting point is 00:46:51 Know his mother Veronica Delarosa doesn't even feel like she's safe to go visit her sons grave So good job Alex would be a big brave, you know, truth or we did courageously fight for justice Wait, wait, a courageously fight for justice. In March of 2018, six families of victims of the shooting, as well as an FBI agent, who responded to the attack, filed a defamation lawsuit against Jones for his role in spreading conspiracy theories about the shooting. And Connecticut, a judge would rule in November 2021 that Jones was liable. So that's good.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Of course, Alex has said he's going to appeal. Obviously, I hope he loses. I doubt he will lose enough money though to make him go away. He's made a lot of money. He supposedly raked in $165 million from Info Wars in the period just between 2015 and 2018. The Las Vegas shooting in October of 2017 would fall smack dab in the middle of that
Starting point is 00:47:40 very, very lucrative period for him. On Monday, October 2nd, 2017, less than 24 hours after the shooting, Jones was already alleging some crazy stuff about what happened on the strip. He said, this is the kind of stuff he says to be all right, makes my head won't explode. It's the 100 year anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution and the literal grandchildren
Starting point is 00:48:00 of the folks that finance the Bolshevik Revolution out of New York and London are now bragging and saying Bolshevik 2 is launching on Saturday night Sunday morning uh... they released oj just 20 hours before the attack took place so all the media would come and be in place to cover this event what the fuck no Bolshevik grandchildren we're saying that in 2017 he He literally just made that up. He pulled that out of his ass.
Starting point is 00:48:27 And I say that as someone who fucking hates communism, I would rather be dead than be communist. Bojangles actually told me that he would rather have me dead than have me be communist as well, which I think it was supposed to be comforting. He's not great at expressing emotions. But seriously, this is nonsense. But the fuck does OJ, OJ Simpson have to do with any of this.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Literally nothing. Bringing the fuck is OJ? OJ Simpson have to do with any of this. Literally nothing. Bringing the media to Vegas. He wasn't that big of a story in 2017. This isn't mid-90s OJ. What Jones was doing here, this is classic lunatic in their basement war room, connecting unrelated events with thumbtacks and string behavior. Right, the words of the maniac,
Starting point is 00:49:01 stringing together connections that do not exist, then standing back and just going, uh-huh It makes sense now. Oh Jay Bolsheviks the juices loose the juices loose and Vegas Viva Las Vegas Viva the revolution the Bolsheviks revolution Country music equals America freedom paddock was shooting freedom communist signal to kick off Bolsheviks too the communist juice is on the loose Jesus Christ in addition to Jones, an untold number of other lesser known conspiracy theorists, start parodying his fucking nonsense to their audiences,
Starting point is 00:49:31 because they're idiots, or putting their own, you know, justice, stupid twists on all this garbage. Well, Jones and some Jones clones, oh, the Jones clones, were selling conspiracy nonsense to, you know, they're very fucking smart audiences. Media pundits, you know, they're playing to the rating bases, making sure everyone
Starting point is 00:49:47 knows where they stand on gun control. Now in the media for a number of years, gun control, again, where it was ugly head when it was discovered that Stephen Patic owned upwards of 50 guns, including semi-automatic machine guns. Some people call machines, I don't think it was something called a bump stock, a special piece of technology aimed to make semi-autos shoot kind of like an automatic gun. And I got some help to describe what a bump stock is to.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Space lizard, an active Air Force member, Alan Niva, actually gave me a better definition of how a bump stock operates and anything I could find online. He's a certified firearms instructor, Chief Range Officer, knows as shit, with shooting competitions for a dozen years. Here's what Alan who sent me a bunch of links in this email says. A falsehood is that a bump stock or slide fire device turns any gun into a machine gun.
Starting point is 00:50:33 A machine gun is any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading by a single function of the trigger. A bump stock is an accessory that consists of a stock and pistol grip that allows the rest of the firearm receiver including the trigger to slide back and forth independent of the stock and pistol grip. To use this slide fire capability is a very weird combination of pulling the pistol grip toward yourself while simultaneously pushing forward just right in the forearm of the rifle. When you press and hold
Starting point is 00:51:03 the trigger to the rear, the recoil moves the firearm receiver and the trigger rearward. This motion resets the disconnector of the trigger. The disconnector is the device in the trigger assembly that prevents full auto fire. Since you are pushing forward on the forearm, subsequent shots happen at a rapid rate faster than most people can manually pull the trigger. Since the trigger is actually being pressed once for every shot, fire at a bump stock does not meet the legal definition of a machine gun. I can shoot any rifle I have in a bump fire mode without any kind of slide fire device. You can use a belt loop or mimic the same motion just firing from the shoulder. So thank you, Alan. 12 of paddocks, high powered rifles were modified to be capable of unleashing nine rounds per second, right, with these bump stocks. The military grade rounds he used fired from special large capacity
Starting point is 00:51:48 magazines produced so much gun smoke. They actually set off the smoke detectors in his suite. In the days after the shooting anti gun control outlets slammed Hillary Clinton, other national rifle association opponents for calling for stricter gun safety laws, former Trump chief scryer, former Trump chief strategist Stephen B, or, uh, sorry, yeah, former Trump chief strategist, Stephen Bannon's bright bar news for one ran a story with the homepage tease of mass gun control hysteria breaks out. Bum stocks will take center stage, you know, after the Las Vegas shooting. And we'll dig a little bit more into that in the timeline. But first, let's meet Stephen Patic. All right, he planned his massacre meticulously.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Now, if he arrived at the Mandalay Bay on September 28th, he set about building his bunker. Over the course of three days, he ferried 24 guns, two tripods, hundreds of rounds of ammo, up to his room, one or two bags at a time. Below in his car, he had bags of ammunition or excuse me, bags of ammonium nitrate,
Starting point is 00:52:42 which can be used to make a powerful explosive. The elevators to his car bypass the lobby, so it was easy for him not to be seen as he carried out his plans. And no one bothered him until his mask was in progress. He had rigged video cameras in the hallway to give him a warning when police approached, so he knew when they'd be coming. As law enforcement closed in, he put a handgun in his mouth, pulled a trigger for the last time, ending his life.
Starting point is 00:53:03 A life people would take a lot more interesting. After it was over, then when he was living it, everyone now wondered who was capable of doing something like that. Why would they, who was Stephen Patek? So let's give a, let's go through a little quick biography of him now. This part really isn't worthy of the timeline because we just don't know enough about him. I checked early, no one has written a decent biography, right? Anything that's worth
Starting point is 00:53:25 a shit at the time of this recording. So just a lot of various articles would just like, you know, little snippets from the few people willing to talk about him. On April 9th, 1953, the man who would later become known as the Las Vegas shooter was born in Clinton, Iowa. Clinton, the town of roughly 25,000, less than 40 miles north of Davenport. It's a county seat of Clinton County. It lies along the Mississippi River and is named obviously after Hillary Clinton. Come on, they're taunting us. Hiding in plain sight. No, actually the original seller.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Joseph M. Bartlett operated a trading store for local Native Americans in the 1830s and in 1836 named the site New York. Then the Iowa Land Company purchased the town site in 1855. It was like, this is fucking not New York Come on, what you doing? Get a fuck out of here. Renamed it for DeWitt Clinton former governor of New York Clinton was one of the largest sawmill centers in the country in the second half of the 19th century Then that dropped off in the area's lumber supply diminished these days manufacturing mostly paper plastics chemical products and Agriculture are the economic mainstays of the area. Steve will not live there for long. At some point, early in his childhood,
Starting point is 00:54:28 his family moved first to Tucson, Arizona, and then to the Sun Valley neighborhood of Los Angeles, Los Angeles. Sun Valley is just north of North Hollywood and Van Nies also boarded to the South and East by Burbank. Sun Valley is most notable, former resident, according to Wikipedia, former adult film star, Amber Rain. That part of the San Fernando Valley is the porn capital of the world. Pretty sure the Stephen Patec had nothing to do with porn though. He definitely, if you look him up in pictures,
Starting point is 00:54:55 he doesn't give off a strong porn vibe. But actually, I don't want to nod to it. There is, he was into porn and he was into some real bad stuff. That'll come up later. Steve was the oldest of his parents, four sons, the hoover's parents. His mom was Irene Hudson. His dad was Benjamin Patek, the couple of wed in Reno, 1952. Seems they met in Chicago not long before they wed. And we know almost nothing about his mom Dolores. And sorry, she
Starting point is 00:55:21 would go, she'd be known as Dolores later. So I reigned Dolores. That'll make sense here in a little bit. We know that Stephen's dad Benjamin was a bank robber. That surprised me. Also surprised me that we can find out more details about parts of Benjamin's life than we can about his son, Stevens. 1960 when Stephen Patek was just seven years old, FBI agents showed up at his family's tidy white ranch house in the hills outside of Tucson, stunning the neighbors, stunning the local sheriff.
Starting point is 00:55:46 No one could fathom it. The man they knew is Pat Patik, big jolly father of four young boys owned a saw a small business in town. It was a special deputy at the sheriff's office was really Benjamin Hoskins Patik, a serial bank robber with a rap sheet that stretched back to Chicago. Benjamin Hoskins Patik born in Shaboykin, Wisconsin in 1926, served in the Navy during World War II and in 1946 was in prison in Chicago for stealing cars and running some kind of con game. The details don't seem to be available of what con game he's
Starting point is 00:56:15 running. He was out in time to marry Dolores and Reno, 1952, and a father Stephen before being in prison again in 1953 for writing bad checks. When Benjamin got back out in 1956, Dolores was waiting for him. Now the paddocks moved Arizona where Stephen's parents start going by different names. Benjamin becomes Patrick, his wife Irene becomes Dolores, which was actually her middle name. Living on a quiet street, they seem to be model mid-century, you know, a model mid-century family. Neighbors remember them as being kind, attentive, you know, parents to their son, clean house. They have three more boys very quickly. Stephen remembered as being a helpful boy,
Starting point is 00:56:53 quiet kid, good kid. Just got some vague descriptive terms there. His dad Benjamin sold garbage disposal, very specific during the week, volunteered for the local search and rescue team, counseled wayward youths in his spare time. In town, Benjamin was active in a shortwave radio club, managed with a newspaper called a younger set night club called big
Starting point is 00:57:13 daddies. He was big daddy. No evidence he was a handsy pito or thershock cross daddy guy, big daddy type might have been a pretty good guy, big daddy guy might have been a naughty daddy guy, you know, big daddy type might have been a pretty good guy big daddy guy might have been a naughty daddy guy You know big daddy based on some stuff that'll come out with his kids many years later He was definitely pretty good at Robin Banks over an 18 month span of 1959 and 1960 Benjamin Patik hit two branches The Valley National Bank in Phoenix
Starting point is 00:57:39 Made off with over $25,000 I actually hit one of those branches twice each time he showed the teller a snub nose revolver tucked in his belt and then would flee into stolen car that he would abandon a few blocks away and then switch over to the family's new Pontiac station wagon. I love these driving home in the station wagon after Rubb makes. When the FBI finally caught up with him at a gas station in downtown Vegas, he tried to flee, nearly running over one agent before another fire to bullet through his windshield and then he surrendered unharmed
Starting point is 00:58:07 Interesting that his dad was shot at right in Vegas Many years earlier 1960 while federal agents were rifling through bedrooms and clauses and his Tucson home and able to steal into the neighborhood swimming pool He was the only kid Old enough to realize what was going on the three other paddock boys still too young to understand what was happening According to a family friend who would talk about it later, the boys were told that their dad was dead and also that he'd been a mechanic.
Starting point is 00:58:30 The lie went that he had had an accident working in the garage on a car. Benjamin Paddock was convicted of bank robbery 1961, sentenced to 20 years in prison. He would not serve that full sentence. He escaped from the Latuna federal penitentiary in Texas on New Year's Eve, 1968, made his way to San Francisco, robbed another bank.
Starting point is 00:58:49 1969, the FBI puts him on the most wanted list, describing him as, this is a very interesting description. Describing him as six feet, four inches tall, 245 pounds has been diagnosed as being psycho. It's just like an old must be old timey term for psychotic psych psychopathic with possible suicidal tendencies He should be considered armed and very dangerous to post your red adding and this is the weird part He's also an avid bridge player watch out for this guy He's armed dangerous crazy and not done very good at playing bridge That's funny to me because my main association with bridge is my grandma Betty. She's in her 80s. It's pretty cute. She has several friends. They've kind of rotated over the years.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Sadly, most of them have passed, but they play every week. They've been playing every week, at least once a week, for like 60 years. And the winner wins an entire quarter. 25 cents. And I just picture the six foot four career hustler Conn and his way into my grandma Betty's home bridge game. Sitting with seven elderly women, seven week coffee for several hours, listening to Benign gossip about
Starting point is 00:59:55 how the neighbors told them it's their home because they're asking too much. I told you they wouldn't. And how so-and-so is happens. I mean, he's still a big sister of the spring. Look at that, the yard's dying. And all to maybe win a couple of quarters Apparently Ben with some kind of a bridge hustler didn't know that was a thing never played bridge
Starting point is 01:00:12 But apparently it's yeah, it's difficult complicated card game takes a lot of concentration helps to be good at math Interesting that his son Stephen will become an avid video poker player known for being really good at math later 1969 newspaper story describes Benjamin as a glib smooth talking confidence man, con man, who is egotistic and arrogant. Stephen will also later be described as egotistic and arrogant, hiding from the FBI after his prison break, Benjamin moves to Springfield, Oregon, where he uses the alias Bruce Warner. Bruce Warner, Erickson, grows out out of goatee makes money by turning back car odometer. That's very specific as well. This guy's lived a very odd life. He was a bank
Starting point is 01:00:52 robber, bridge hustler, garbage disposal salesman. Now guy, guy who you can get to turn back a car odometer. You stay busy with that? 1978, he'd live free for almost a decade following his prison break. Now he makes a deal with a small women's charity in Oregon to open a bingo parlor and share the proceeds. But he doesn't share like he's supposed to and keeps most of the profits to himself.
Starting point is 01:01:14 So now he's a fucking bingo hustler. But from bridge hustler to bingo hustler. We talked about bingo hustling. A lot back in suck 263, the freeway killer William Bonan and his death fan, oh Billy got her balls. His parents were bingo hustlers. I can't believe that I've covered other bingo hustlers. Bingo Hustlein, a lot back in suck 263, the freeway killer William Bonan and his death fan, Old Billy Gotter Balls. His parents were Bingo Hustlers. I can't believe that I've covered other Bingo Hustlers.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Oregon locals, who knew Nelson of Bench criminal record, were calling him Bingo Bruce now. Fuck yeah, they did, that's a great nickname. Old Bingo Bruce, oh, Bingo Bingo, it's Bingo Bruce. Love that Stephen Patek's father was known to many as Bingo Bruce. Those who knew bingo Bruce
Starting point is 01:01:46 Said he would tell some crazy stories about his past I wish this a whole episode was about bingo Bruce bingo Bruce claimed according to his interviews that uh He had been among other things a dixieland band singer a pilot auto racing crew chief a pro football player for the Chicago Bears Survivor world war two mind sweepers, Sinky. And he was once a wrestler named Crybaby. In addition to Bingo Bruce, some folks know him as Chrome Dome or Old Ballity.
Starting point is 01:02:14 So, there was clearly a little bit of crazy in the paddock family tree, like on the branch directly above Stevens. I don't think you go this deep into false identities and end up known as fucking Bingo Bruce. Unless you have a couple loose marbles rolling around in your school. Stevens, younger brother Eric,
Starting point is 01:02:32 who will provide the most infotated reporters following his brother's death. We'll go visit his dad when he discovers he's alive when Eric is 17. And this is how Eric describes their encounter. He says, I wanted to go see him for the first time when I was 17, he was a gambler. That's how you a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who crazy pathological are guys a super cool fun guy a photo of bingo Bruce that ran in a local paper tipped off authorities who were still looking for the bank robber right the real guy the the
Starting point is 01:03:09 paddock guy be underneath and on the night of September 6 1978 federal agents arrest bingo bruce outside where else is fucking bingo hall year later he would once again leave federal prison early this time on parole people who knew him in Oregon including local mayor lobbied for the release of bingo Bruce uh... and then he returned of course to bingo i mean how could he not it's in his blood what the fuck else is bingo bruce can do bingo bruce needs the bingo baby bingo bingo it's bingo bruce
Starting point is 01:03:40 uh... this time he actually opens his own church thinking that will allow him to legally keep all his bingo profits. Nope. State authorities charged him with racketeering in the 80s. They just couldn't just couldn't avoid a bingo hustle. So ridiculous. Benjamin Patock, he settled civil charges and avoided jail time after paying $623,000.
Starting point is 01:04:00 So if he could pay that, he's making some serious bingo bingo bucks. He eventually left Oregon for Texas where he will die in 1998 and Stephen didn't seem to take after his dad much at least not at first Patrick Patteck another brother would later say my brother was the most boring one of the family Might not have been super close to his mom either according to Stephen's brother Eric Benjamin Benjamin was Oh, sorry, I Benjamin was, Benjamin was, oh sorry, I, I, that's through the wrong name. Yeah, but anyway, his dad was never with my mom and then Steven had limited, limited interaction, Jesus Christ, with Benjamin following his dad's release from prison. So forget what I said about his mom.
Starting point is 01:04:34 He might have been close with his mom. It was really tricky to piece together a lot of these details into a cohesive narrative. When the father died in 1998, paid newspaper, obituary listed only one son, Patrick, as a survivor. So it sounds like the only one who was close with him. After Benjamin's arrest this time, Dolores, was done with him, kind of backing up now to when he gets arrested in Vegas,
Starting point is 01:04:57 and they're living in Tucson, she packs up the family, moves to Southern California now. In Southern California, Dolores will work as a postal worker and augment her wages by investing in stocks. So maybe she was really good with numbers as well. She also worked as a secretary one point. The family was lower middle class, according to Steven's brothers, the mom would not remarry when they were in the home at least. I don't think she ever remarried doesn't say that explicitly though. The brothers would fight over who
Starting point is 01:05:19 would get to drink whole milk growing up, powdered milk less tasty, but cheaper was the norm. Their neighborhood was working class full of tidy ranch houses, bought mainly with money from the GI bill. Their mom never explained what really happened to their dad, not sure how they would find him later to reconnect. According to one of Stephen's ex-wives, Stephen's single mom and the financial instability the family faced pushed Stephen to prioritize, being self-reliant and independent. And he would become a very hard worker. Long time childhood friend Greg Palest spoke after the shooting said that he was classmates with Stephen
Starting point is 01:05:51 from the second grade through their high school graduation. And this one guy's interview is where we get most of what we know about his childhood. Greg said, the main thing is that he was a math whiz. He was really brilliant. He said that Patek played tennis on the high school team, but was otherwise quiet. And the only other thing he said was that no one was really close to him. He was a closed-in kid. So it sounds like he may not have really had any close friends growing up. And there are just some people who just don't ever make
Starting point is 01:06:18 those connections. I did a girl in college for about nine months. Goredo, who is from Portland, Oregon, and she had one brother. They were close in age. His name was Dan as well. I met him a few times and he just didn't seem to have any close friends. I was kind of fascinated with him. He just, I'm like, what's going on there?
Starting point is 01:06:33 The more I would talk about him, the more I'd want to ask more questions. Didn't sound like he ever really had any close friends. Nice enough guy, but super quiet. Like way introverted, painfully shy. When he did talk, it was only about surface stuff. Read it and have much to say about him. They grew up in the same house and it was like, she didn't really know him. I remember finding that just odd, right? He liked soccer. He liked to work
Starting point is 01:06:53 out, very shy, never had a girlfriend, went to church regularly, you know, got to grades, didn't cause problems at home or anywhere else it seems. No idea what ever happened to him. Strange for me to think about people like that who just never reveal much ever about themselves. Considering how much I've shared about myself over the years. But yeah, but some people, I mean, they'll live long lives, make it their 70s, 80s, 90s, and we'll never share their innermost thoughts
Starting point is 01:07:17 and desires with fucking anyone. We'll have coworkers, neighbors, spouses who won't really know much about them. How weird is that, right? Casual friends who really don't know much, a family who won't know much. My great-grandma still seemed to have been one of these people. I spent a lot of time with my great-grandma still growing up. She made it into her 90s, mid 90s, and I don't know that much about her. And I don't think anyone ever did.
Starting point is 01:07:39 No one in the family seems to. I know she likes spaghetti. I know she was, you know, no region. She gets big hit. I know she liked certain gemstones like Topaz and Amethyst She was a housewife her whole adult life raised two daughters help raise two grand daughters for great grandchildren She's like watching rodeos and bowling matches on TV But didn't seem to have a favorite bull rider or bowler She didn't watch movies TV shows or listen to literally any music
Starting point is 01:08:04 If you asked her her favorite anything and I would ask her, okay, what's your favorite this, what's your favorite that? You just get a shoulder shrug and just like, I don't know. Never heard her comment in depth on literally anything. I know she's like, card games in Yachty. What did she love? No idea, right? I asked her daughter, you know, I'm a grandma beddy like, you know, but what did she,
Starting point is 01:08:21 what would she really into? Nobody seems to know anything. Was she ever passionate about anything? Did she ever have big hopes and dreams? What really mattered to her? No one seems to know. Some people just don't share much. And some people, I don't think they have much to share.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Some people aren't that introspective. Some people I wonder if they, they have any real depths to them at all. Hard for me to relate when I get so lost in my own head all the time. I have to think of the term rich imaginary life. I've always had it. Sometimes blessing, sometimes it curse. Uh, I think it's why I really like hallucinogens, right? When I do enough, my imagination can feel as if it's a, just as and think of the term rich imaginary life. I've always had it. Sometimes blessing, sometimes a curse. I think it's why I really like hallucinogens, right?
Starting point is 01:08:46 When I do enough, my imagination can feel as if it's just as real as the real world. Do these quiet people have rich interlives? You know, did Steven Patic? What was going on in that head of his growing up? A lot, some, nothing. 1971 Steven graduated from John H. Francis, Polytechnic Senior High School in the Sun Valley neighborhood of Los Angeles again. I graduated from John H. Francis Polytechnic Senior High School in the Sun Valley
Starting point is 01:09:06 neighborhood of Los Angeles again. After graduating from high school, he attends and graduates California State University Northridge in 1977 with a degree in business administration. According to his brother Eric, he made it clear that he wanted to be rich. That seems to have been a life-driving force. He wanted to make a lot of money and he would. He bounced around from job to job for a while, looking for something with a high income ceiling. He worked nights at an airport while going to school at Cal State Northridge. Then worked as a postal carrier. Also, when he was in
Starting point is 01:09:33 school, seemed to overlap possibly a little bit with graduation. Again, details are scarce. After graduation, for sure afterward, he went to work for the IRS. I guess he thought that was where the money was for a while. Wasn't enough. Equit 194 went into the aerospace industry, worked for a predecessor to law keyed Martin for three years in the 80s according to a company statement. Not sure exactly what his job was, but the money there, not what he wanted either, finally turned to real estate and that was where he started to make big bucks. While he got into real estate, he also held other jobs. He brother-in-law said he was in the county for a while. Public records described him as an internal auditor for a while. He definitely seemed to have worked his ass off for most of his adult life. He got married twice
Starting point is 01:10:13 while he was bouncing around from career to career. While he got into real estate development, uh, his first marriage lasted from 1977 to 1999, second from 1985 to 1990, both times he was married in Los Angeles County. We don't know why his ex-wives divorced him, both have consistently refused to talk to reporters, and I do not blame them. I spent much of his adult life in the Los Angeles area. He and his two wives lived her own property in Panorama City, Cerritos, North Hollywood,
Starting point is 01:10:43 other areas from the 1970s to early 2000s. All in all, he seems to have been a pretty normal seeming dude. No big red flags from when he was younger. Patix former brother-in-law, Scott Brunholler, recalled the gunman in the 70s and 80s as a smart, fun-loving person who enjoyed entertaining on his boat at Castellac Lake and went a vista lake in Kern County. He seemed like a normal good guy said, I don't remember anything bad back then at all. I'm Brunel or Sister Sharon married Patek in 1977.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I said I'm still in shock. 1987, Patek bought a 30 unit building at 1256 West 29th Street in Los Angeles near the University of Southern California, USC. Such a good investment, bad neighborhood at the time, not far from a good neighborhood, not, such a good investment, bad neighborhood at the time, not far from a good neighborhood, not far from a great university. Steven later, you sweat equity.
Starting point is 01:11:29 He built up in his building to buy, then refurbish more properties in economically depressed areas around L.A. Teach himself how to do all kinds of stuff, put in plumbing, install air conditioning, et cetera. He was doing rich dad, poor dad, real estate, wealth building, shit, long before that became a national trend. You know, flipping houses, real estate wealth building shit long before that became a national trend. You know, flipping houses, all that kind of stuff. He consistently made excellent investments.
Starting point is 01:11:49 By the time he sold these properties years later, he'd more than doubled his money on his California holdings, which included at least six multifamily residences. By the late 80s, he was making a steady, reliable income off of his rentals. By the 2000s, he's getting legit rich. Among his most profitable investments, was an apartment complex purchased in 2004, which gave him more than 500,000 in annual income by 2011. IRS records show he made five to six million in profits from its sale in 2015. In 2012, he sold a 110 unit building in Mesquite outside Dallas for 8.3 million fuck 110 units You kept one for himself you like to go there and check on his building get a feel for how things were going with attendance
Starting point is 01:12:33 There's brother Eric at some point in the 80s said he gave all of his life savings over to his brother to become a partner and Stevens a real estate development company Say and he trusted Stephen implicitly trusted him entirely to make him rich, which he did. Erica also would describe Stephen as a bit of a father figure for him. Stephen was also apparently a fair landlord. Kept the rent slow, responded promptly to his tenants' complaints, learned all their names,
Starting point is 01:12:57 made sure they were happy. When one reliable tenant complained about a rent increase, he would take off half the difference, I guess. Or he took off in that instance, half the difference. He designed the ownership structure, so his family would profit, installed his take off half the difference, I guess, or he took off that instance, half the difference. He designed the ownership structure so his family would profit, installed his mom in a tidy house where he took care of his mom financially, but her in a little house behind another large apartment complex. He had bought in Texas.
Starting point is 01:13:15 He was a strict no nonsense landlord. For nearly a decade, he owned the department complex. Yeah, in Mesquite, that one, that big one, former tenant, Richard Garing said, Patik, improved the Texas property by checking applicants, credit scores, and quickly evicting those who didn't pay. Also during the riots in Los Angeles 1990s, he went on to the roof of an apartment complex, he owned in a flat jacket, armed with the gun, waiting for the rioters. Did he want them to try and loot his building? Did he want to kill that day? Four shadowing of his later attack here, maybe. Maybe not.
Starting point is 01:13:45 He was a good businessman. He was successful, but according to those around him, this came with a rigid attitude and a lack of desire to compromise. When his second marriage failed, gambling became his passion. He liked trying to beat the system out smart casinos. And it was gambling from here until the end. To many of those around him beginning around this time, lasting until his death. He came across now, yeah, arrogant, superior,
Starting point is 01:14:07 yeah, egotistical. He act like everybody worked for him and that he was above others, said John Weinerich, a former executive casino host at the Atlantis casino resort spawnery now, where he saw Stephen frequent, frequently from 2012 to 2014. When Stephen wanted food while he was gambling, he wanted it immediately.
Starting point is 01:14:24 He'd order from more than one server. If the meal didn't come right away, he could be pushy. He took his gambling very seriously. He was very meticulous with a lot of things in his life, like gambling. To some of the people that worked at the casino see-freecredited, employees who'd seen hundreds, not thousands of gamblers pass through their doors.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Steven seemed like he was, you know, playing at a level above your typical Joe Schmo gambler. He approached like a chess player. He'd research his favorite game, video poker, make sure to learn the pay table for every machine he played, the listing of payouts for every coin and hand combination on a specific machine, while you can find on the back glass
Starting point is 01:14:59 or screen of a video poker machine. He knew how to calculate percentages based on these pay tables to determine how much coins he should play per hand at which machine to maximize his odds of winning. One machine might only pay out an average of 95%. Depending on how much you put in the machine. Another might, if you play it right, with the right amount of coins per hand, 99.5%. Patek always knew, apparently, what machines were the loosest, which ones pay the most, how many coins to play per hand to always maximize his winnings.
Starting point is 01:15:29 He knew the house advantage down to the 10th of a percent on whatever he was playing. Also played a lot of casino promotions. Casino promotions essentially pay out extra bonuses to winners, says Richard Munchkin, author of gambling wizards, conversations with the world's greatest gamblers. Says a gambler like Mr. Patik will often lock a machine meaning he or she monopolizes it. Make sure no one else uses it during a promotional gambling session when you have the best odds to get it. Sounds like a really fucking annoying person to go to a casino with. It sounds like it's way too into video poker. Man, he's talking about a true introvert.
Starting point is 01:16:01 To me, that's like the most boring game, but whatever. For one casino promotion, Pettig showed up two hours early, locked two machines, played them both simultaneously for 14 hours straight. Okay. The promotion only lasted for 12 hours. He got there two hours early to make sure no one would get his precious machines. They had the best pay tables. Dude, it was not fucking around. Video poker.
Starting point is 01:16:23 Steven was considered a mid-level high roller. He was in good standing with the MGM properties, the owner of the Mandalay in the Belagio. He had a $100,000 line of credit, but never used the full amount. Never spent more than he could afford to lose and his balance fully paid off by the time of the shooting. According to his brother,
Starting point is 01:16:39 it seems as if Gambley made him feel important, if not social, right? He liked being weighted on. He liked scene shows, you know, go by himself oftentimes like to eat good food. Eric Paddock said he likes to when people go, oh, Mr. Paddock, can I get you a big bowl of the best shrimp? Anybody has ever eaten on the planet in a big glass of our best port. You could tell the being in the high limit gambling environment would lift him up.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Said Mr. Wienrich that Atlanta's casino host. He liked everyone doodied on him. In addition to gambling, he also liked to fly. In 2003, he got his pilot's license after training in the LA area, eventually taking the extra step to get instrument rating so we could fly in cloudy conditions with limited visibility, doing well economically, Stephen bought houses in Texas and Nevada Towns with small airports. He owned a few planes. He had these little houses so he could park his planes, have somewhere nearby to stay. In Mesquite, Texas, he rented a hangar for $285 a month, 2007 through 2009, also stored
Starting point is 01:17:33 other planes in Henderson, Nevada from 2002 to 2010. Then in 2010, he could no longer fly his planes anymore. His medical certificate expired, according to the FAA, way more interested in gambling than flying now. But still would travel. Sometimes by 2013 he had started dating Maraloo Danley, a Filipino woman two years younger than him who was a cocktail at Waitress. Maraloo was working at a as a high limit hostess for club paradise at the Atlanta, SCC, no resort spa and Reno for his 60th birthday on April 9th 2013. Maraloo and Steven flew to the Philippines on Japan Airlines and stayed for five days. The family of Maraloo, his girlfriend, still lived there.
Starting point is 01:18:12 The couple won again for his birthday the following year. Maraloo worked in Mesquite where she and Steven live together at the time of the shooting. She had taken a job booking sports beds at a local casino called the Virgin River. And we don't know a lot about Maraloo. She is also consistently declined to talk to reporters. Steven's brother Eric said they were adorable. Big man, tiny woman, he loved her, he dogged on her. Apparently often gambled side by side. But the supervisor to Starbucks in Mesquite, they frequented, as brands of Mendoza didn't think he was sweet to her. He told L.A. Times that Patik often berated her in public.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Mendoza said it happened a lot. He said Patik would verbally abuse her when she asked to use his casino card to buy food or other things inside the casino. He said he would glare down at her and say with the mean attitude, you don't need my casino card for this. I'm paying for your drink just like I'm paying for you. Pretty fucked up. Then she would softly say, okay. And then step back behind him. He said he was so rude to her in front of us. Now if that's true, obviously, very fucked up. I don't know why this guy would lie about that. Is that why his first two lives left him?
Starting point is 01:19:13 Would he rigid, control, and asshole behind closed doors? Seems as if he might have been a my way or the highway guy. He does sound like a dick in a lot of descriptions. His brother Eric would say, if Steve decided it was time for Steve to go, well Steve got up and left. He did what he wanted to do when he wanted to do it. From 2013 to 2015, he lived primarily in Melbourne, Florida, kind of.
Starting point is 01:19:34 He always bounced around from property to property last 20 years of his life. Hard to say where he spent the most time, right? Vegas, Reno, Florida, Texas, Henderson. He's all over the place. 2016, he sold the place in Florida, bought a home in Mesquite Nevada. Several Mesquite residents described him as someone who just didn't speak much
Starting point is 01:19:51 and kept a low profile. And you know, seemed pretty average. Maybe cranky, maybe a dick to his girlfriend, probably, but no one saw, you know, what happened coming it seems. Did not seem like a future mass shooter. Did not have run-ins with the law. He's only record a recorded interaction with law enforcement, minor traffic citation, just one, years before the shooting, which he settled in court. But he might have been struggling mentally in his final years. See, uh, filled prescriptions for the anti-anxiety
Starting point is 01:20:18 drug, Valium in 2013, also in 2016, and finally again in June, 2017, just four months before the shooting. His primary physician, unnamed in the sources, wondered if he might have been bipolar. During an interview, Clark County Sheriff Joel Embardo said Pat, I can reportedly been losing a significant amount of wealth since September of 2015, which led to his having bouts of depression. Well, maybe he should stop fucking gambling all the time. That's what happens when you play video poker. How's always wins in the end? Right? They don't build those big fucking casinos by losing to the Stephen Patex of the world.
Starting point is 01:20:52 His girlfriend, Mary Lou, seemed to corroborate Sheriff Lombardo's assessment of Patek being depressed in his final days, saying she noticed a decline of affection and intimacy towards her from Patek, who had been romantic at first during their relationship. Also, though he'd always had guns in the final year of his life, he went on a crazy fucking job in spree, adding to his arsenal substantially right before the shooting. I think he was clearly planning the attack. He purchased over 55 firearms, the majority of them rifles, according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, explosives, right in that final year.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Also purchased a bunch of firearm related accessories. As a comparison, he'd only bought 29 firearms between 1982 and September of 2016. Mainly handguns and shotguns. Now he just goes to rifles, not mostly AR-15s, but close to half of them, AR-15s. At the end there, one of his purchase, a shotgun, came from Dixie gun works in St. George, Utah. He was driving all around the area. It to various places by lots of guns. Chris, Michael, the owner said that Mr. Paddock visited the store three times in January and February of 2017, right? Driving from Miss Keaton, Nevada.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Mr. Michael recalled Steven saying that he was stopping at a number of local gun dealers that he retired, moved back to the area and was trying to get back into his hobbies. When he came to guns, Mr. Michael said he was not in novice. Merrill Lue noticed he increased the firearm related purchase, but wasn't worried thinking it was just a hobby. Then two weeks before the attacks, Steven suggested Merrill Lue take a trip to the Philippines. She accepted and then Patek bought her after he bought her a surprise airline ticket. And then soon after that, wired her $100,000 to buy a house there. So he didn't want her in the country. When he did what he did, was that $100,000 a farewell gift to her?
Starting point is 01:22:28 We don't know. And then two days before the shooting, Patik was recorded by a home surveillance system driving alone to an area to do some target practice located near his home. Now that we know more about Stephen Patik, let's dig into this week's time suck timeline, get a more in depth, look at what happened. As a quick note, some of the sources list slightly different times say 1126 instead of 1127. It's not off by much We're gonna go with the times that the Las Vegas Police Department and the FBI the deep state because I'm a puppet would confirm in their later
Starting point is 01:22:58 investigation Also another quick note it is sponsored time Thanks for not leaving now. Let's get into this shit for real. Shrap on those boots, soldier. We're marching down a time, sub-time line. On August 3rd, 2017, a person used the name Stephen Patek, reserves a room with the black stone hotel in Chicago during the Lala Paloza music festival. Lala Paloza was held in Grant Park in Chicago, August, yeah, 3rd through 6th, Arcade Fire, Chance the Rapper, the Killers, Muse, the XX, Lord Blink, 92, Ryan Adams, a Shinspoon, Alchemy, run the jewels.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Sounds fucking great, so many more great acts. And how weird for anyone who attended that concert to think about how you could have ended up as one of Stephen's victims. The Blacks on Hotel overlooks the park. For some reason Stephen decides not to go. Second thoughts about a mass shooting. Second thoughts about the location for a mass shooting. September 9, 2017, over three weeks before the shooting. Patrick reserves a room at the Mandelae Bay Hotel. Mandelae Bay, 43 story luxury resort casino on Las Vegas strip owned by MGM gross properties, the Blackstone group, and operated by MGM resorts international, and it's fucking massive.
Starting point is 01:24:15 I'm constantly amazed by how big these casinos are. Every time I go to Vegas, I'm like, God, these things are huge. Mandelae Bay has 3,209 hotel rooms, or hat at that time. 24 elevators, a casino of 147,992 square feet. Jason to the hotel, the 2 million square foot Mandela Bay Convention Center,
Starting point is 01:24:36 and the 12,000 seat, Mikalobe Ultra Arena. And there are 24 restaurants at the resort. God, it's a fucking small city. From September 22nd to 25th, Stephen Patic rents a room at the resort. Gather, it's a fucking small city. From September 22nd to 25th, Stephen Patock rents a room at the condominium complex and downtown Las Vegas at the same time as the life is beautiful music festival. It's always so much stuff going on in Vegas.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Feature performances from Chance, the rapper, muse, lord, again, he doesn't act. So what's he doing here? Scouting, running the shooting through his mind, lining up shot angles, determining which room will be the best to fire from. Who knows? So, 10 or 25, six days before the shooting, Stephen Patock checks into the hotel with the 10 shooting range bags or with 10 shooting range bags in a computer, giving a checkout date of October 2nd. He rolls one bag to his
Starting point is 01:25:19 room himself. A bellman uses a luggage cart to bring up four other bags. Patik leaves returns to his home in Mesquite, Nevada. After getting all the bags, you know, he has another Belman bring up the rest of the gets all 10 bags up there. His hotel room overlooked a portion of the Las Vegas trip called Las Vegas Village, where that weekend over 20,000 people had flocked to attend the Route 91 Country Harvest Music Festival. Our Harvest Country Music Festival. The Route 91 hardest festival launched.
Starting point is 01:25:45 It's inaugural event in October of 2014. In 2017, major acts were Eric Church, Sam Hunt, Jason Aldin, Jake Owen, Lee Bryce, Friday through Sunday is how it's running. September 26, 2017, Patik now wires 50,000 to a bank account in the Philippines, where his girlfriend Mary Lou Danley is visiting family. He then returns Las Vegas visits a pair of Casino hotels before returning to Mandalay Bay where he brings another six suitcases on
Starting point is 01:26:12 a luggage cart as well as another rolling suitcase to his room. Patrick then begins gambling at a hotel overnight and into the next morning for more than eight hours straight. Did he think he was gonna die in that shooting? Was he enjoying his final days on Earth or did he think he might get away with what he did? Take home some winnings. I don't know what's going on here. The night of September 27th, Patik drives back to Mesquite by his luggage, razor blades, fake flowers of vase and a styrofoam ball at a Walmart. No fucking idea why he bought this shit. Gotta make sure you have some fake flowers, I guess, before you start shooting the strangers. September 28th, Patik buys a 308 bolt action rifle from a gun store and Mesquite wire transfers
Starting point is 01:26:48 another 50,000 to that account in the Philippines. As he just want to make sure his girlfriend's taken care of after he's gone. Patek also goes to a gun range before returning to Las Vegas for some final practice, brings another two rolling suitcases, laptop bag to his Mandalay Bayroom, again, gambles for more than six hours this time until early the next morning. The fuck is he thinking about as he gambles? Why is he gambling?
Starting point is 01:27:10 If he's gonna do what he did. I mean, I guess he just liked it. So, 10th of 29th, Stephen moves into an additional suite. 32, 134, connected to the first one. Both rooms overlook the festival grounds. He can set up more rifles, have more window space to fire from. After spending some 10th of 29th, most in his room, the next day,
Starting point is 01:27:26 paddock places do not disturb signs on his adjoining rooms. I would think so. Drive to Mesquite, then returns to Mandalay Bay with four more suitcases, and then drives back to Mesquite again. As you have in second thoughts, is this all going according to plan for him? Now onto the day of the shooting, October 1, 2017. Early in the morning, he returns to Mandelae Bay from Mesquite, gambles for four more hours, brings two more rolled in suitcases and a bag to his room. Throughout the afternoon, officials say he is detected
Starting point is 01:27:54 opening and closing the doors to his suite multiple times, probably, you know, preparing for his attack. What do you have in preparation? So much shit. All those suitcases, 24 guns will be found in paddocks rooms at the Mandalay Bay. An additional 18 guns found in his Mesquite residents, you know, seven more to someone Reno. Here's a few examples of the guns found in his room. It feels like a glossary if I read them all, but he had a cold M4 car being AR 15 with the bump stock vertical four grip, 100 round magazine front side only. He had a Christensen arms CA 15 r15
Starting point is 01:28:26 wild with a bump stock vertical four grip and a hundred round magazine no sites or optics. A cult competition AR 15 with bump stock vertical four grip 100 round magazine no sites or optics. Smith and Wesson 342 air light 38 caliber revolver with four cartridges one expended cartridge case. Colt M4 carbine, AR 15 with bump stock vertical four grip, 100 round magazine, Daniel defense M4 a1 AR 15 with bump stock vertical four grip, 100 round magazine and EO tech optic, Daniel defense, DD M4 V11 AR 15 with the bump stock vertical four grip, no magazine EO tech optic on this one as well. A Ruger American 308 caliber bold action rifle
Starting point is 01:29:07 with a scope and on and on and on. Had a metal L bracket with three screws, so it's a turn it to the interior door frame, two surveillance cameras, planted in a room service cart outside his room, blue plastic hose with a funnel fan and scuba mouthpiece attached. I guess they're in case they're gonna tear gas him,
Starting point is 01:29:24 baby monitor camera, small sledgehammer, surveillance camera monitor, spotting scope, binoculars, approximately a thousand 50, extended, 223 or 556 cartridge casings for those AR-15s. Polymer round 40 AR-15 magazines, steel 100 round AR magazines, Polymer 25 round AR-10 magazines,
Starting point is 01:29:44 approximately 5,280 total rounds of unused live ammunition would be found a handwritten note with distance and bullet drop calculations power hand drills and several empty rifle rifle magazines would all be found after he was dead did had had a fucking arsenal The guns were modified to do the most damage possible They had a fucking arsenal. The guns were modified to do the most damaged possible. A forward front grip on most of those weapons was a modification made for allowing the shooter to get a better hold of the front end during recoil
Starting point is 01:30:12 for more rapid fire. Also maintains a steady sight through a scope, which can come in handy during competitions when you're aiming at a target. Several of the guns modified to allow for more rapid fire. Fully automatic firearms, right? Can fire as many rounds as their magazines drums or belts hold Sempthal by pulling hold in the trigger whereas semi-automatic weapons required trigger pull for each round fired
Starting point is 01:30:30 But he had that bump stock modification Please in the scene the shooting would later report to the gunman was using an auto right the automatic weapon because of the rat-a-tat sound of the gunfire Then they would find the bump stocks we talked about and it gave all the info on earlier Here's a bit more bump stocks have been around for a, or had been around for a decade, and this happened. When the Federal Assault Weapons Band expired in 2004, the Bureau of Outcall debacle in firearms noted a significant increase in requests for firearms, triggers, and other devices that replicate automatic fire.
Starting point is 01:31:00 The ATF began approving such devices around 2006. For most people, a bump stock modified semi-auto rifle was the closest they could get to full auto. 1986 Federal law prohibited civilians, people who are not members of law enforcement or the military from processing or possessing newly made machine guns. Even then machine guns made before 1986 were allowed and they could cost $20,000 in the private market. Again, the machine gun20,000 in the private market. I get the machine gun requires special permission from the treasure department.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Process that includes an FBI background check and approval from the buyer's local police department. I believe you can still do that currently today. New or not all machine guns must be registered with the federal government. As April 2017, 630,019 machine guns were registered to civilians and police agencies in the US, including almost 12,000 in Nevada, according to the Bureau of Alcohol to Back on Firearms and explosives. That number does not include military inventory, because they're so rare, hard to come by, machine guns hardly ever used in crimes. They only seem to have been two instances of machine guns used in killings in recent history. One by an off-duty Ohio police officer in 1988, and a 1992 case, also in Ohio, in which
Starting point is 01:32:08 a disgrace doctor murdered a former colleague. Important note to the guns, Patek was using from his Persian Mandalay Bay resort in Casino were meant for competitions, target practice, for uses of hobby, not meant to be used obviously mowing down contra-goers. Up to around a half a million bump stocks are still in circulation right now in the US. 2017 Las Vegas shooting seems to have been the only time that they were used in a mass shooting event. Okay, 936 pm, paddock dead bolts to door to one of his rooms, then dead bolts to door to another one, 10 minutes later. Final act,
Starting point is 01:32:41 country star Jason Aldin goes on stage 9.40pm, 9.55pm security guard Hasews Compos or Campos arrives elevator on the 32nd floor to investigate an alert of an open door in a guest room down the hall from Patix. Campos checks a stairwell door that blocks his entry to the floor minutes earlier discovers it's been fastened closed with that L shape bracket. Uh, paddock had screwed its shut, right? Didn't want to be interrupted once he got started. 10.04 PM, Campos calls security dispatch to report the blocked door.
Starting point is 01:33:13 His call is routed to the facilities maintenance department, which dispatches maintenance engineer Stephen Schuck to go to the floor. 10.05, paddock fires two initial shots at Las Vegas Village, the open air venue across the street from the hotel where that route 91 Harvest Music Festival is being held, right, with over 20,000 people. Then after a few moments, he really opens fire. Chaos will now follow confusion. Some attendees initially think that fireworks are ringing out, just as Jason Aldean begins
Starting point is 01:33:38 to sing the first few lines of his hit when she says baby. But as the rapid fire shots continue, people begin falling, the crowd collectively realizes the horror of what is happening and they start to run. Gunfire explodes around concert-goer Doris Husser, 29. She and her 8-year-old daughter had been in the bathroom. When the shooting began, they pushed back into the crowd towards the sound of the bullets, insertive hussers, 5-year-old son, and her developmentally disabled sister. They could hear bullets pinging off nearby concession stands, ricochaine off the pavement around them, holy fuck, just absolute terror.
Starting point is 01:34:09 About 50 yards away, Tyler Reeve, 36 year old country artist and songwriter dives into a production trailer with five friends lays on the floor as hundreds of rounds ring out around him. Piles of bodies, piles of bodies are soon everywhere, bloods collecting and pools,
Starting point is 01:34:23 everyone screaming as hundreds are being shot. Thousands are clamoring to get away, surviving the pandemonium. A 48 year old woman hears her husband, a father of four collapse dead on the asphalt next to her. Young man sprints alongside his eight months pregnant wife. A 30 year old woman lays on top for 21 year old little brother to protect him from the hail of bullets.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Because quote, he has big goals in life. Holy shit. That is so fucking courageous and altruistic and intense. He had better get her some nice ass gifts on her birthday every year for the rest of her life. Better give her a kidney if you ever need it. Maybe just give her a kidney now, just in case she ever wants one.
Starting point is 01:35:00 10.06 PM security guard, Haseus Campos, right? You found that L bracket on the 32nd floor, seven minutes earlier. Now here's what he'll later describe as rapid, drilling noises, as paddock fires about 100 rounds of contra-goers. Paddock could place surveillance cameras outside his room, now clearly spots Campos, because now he starts to shoot through the door
Starting point is 01:35:18 and down the hallway at him. Hits the security guard in the lake. Campos, who is unarmed, not easily wounded, thank God, takes cover, radios, a hotel dispatch, for help, giving Patix room number on the 30 second floor. 1007, Patix resumes firing, hundreds of rounds at concert goers. Two Las Vegas police officers are already in the building on another call. They head upstairs, presumably, to try to find the source of the gunfire, along with two armed Mandalay Bay security guards. Over the next two minutes, Patik now takes several pot shots at jet fuel storage tanks at the nearby airport
Starting point is 01:35:49 over 2000 yards away, actually hitting them twice, but luckily not igniting the fuel before resuming fire on the concert crowd. 1010, uh, shocked that building engineer arrives on the 32nd floor to remove the L bracket, Campos yells for him to take cover. Patik starts firing down the hallway again, I've seen him on the cameras, floor to remove the L bracket, Campos yells for him to take cover. Patik starts firing down the hallway again, I've seen them on the cameras. Shuck now, radio is hotel dispatched to send police to the 30 second floor. A minute later, two police officers,
Starting point is 01:36:13 right, those ones already in the building, they arrive on the 31st floor. One floor below Patik, as the gunman resumes firing on the concert crowd. They're working to determine where the shots are coming from. By 10, 13, they kind of figured out. They were initially about 20 floors off But they knew it was coming from the building and which side of the building was coming from two bits of dialogue time stamp 1013 report
Starting point is 01:36:32 It's coming from like the 50th or 60th floor north of the Mandalay Bay It's coming out of a window and then they go we're seeing local flashes in the middle of Mandalay Bay on the north side Kind of on the West Tower, but towards the center of the casino, like one of the middle floors, 10, 16, 11 minutes after Patrick fired his first shots. News of the attack first hit social media. I'm pretty sure a terrorist attack just happened next to me. I'm at Mandalay Bay, Twitter user, Glockman posts at Glockman. The first two police officers reached the 30 second floor of the hotel at 10, 17.
Starting point is 01:37:04 They find campos. The wounded security guard. He tells them which room is paddocks. Gunshots had stopped abruptly, two minutes earlier, at 1015 PM. At 1018, they were shown the location of paddock store. Taxi drivers in the area receive a message direct from the police at 1025 PM, telling them to avoid the Mandalay Bay area. At this time, the police think there could be as many as three shooters. The message said drivers avoid Las Vegas Boulevard
Starting point is 01:37:29 and Trapecana, active shooting from Mandalay Bay, possible three shooters. Between 10.26 and 10.30 pm, an additional eight Las Vegas Metro Police Department officers joined the first two officers began clearing other suites along the 32nd floor hallway at 10 30 to police start hurting people inside a mandalay bay to get them out of the line of sight of the gunman 10 55 8 SWAT team members enter the 32nd floor to the 2nd stairwell near to paddock suite Once all the other rooms on the floor have been cleared at 11 20 pm more than an hour after the first two officers arrived and 65 minutes after paddock It sees firing the police breached his door his door with an explosive charge and enter the room. Patik already dead. Self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.
Starting point is 01:38:11 He could have been dead since 1015. So one officer noticed a second closed door when they burst into Patik's suite couldn't immediately be sure what was behind it. So they use a second explosive charge to burst it open at which point they can see the entire suite and a certain Patdock have been alone, but not before 1126 pm, a police officer accidentally fired three rounds into the room thinking that he had seen movement. I can't, can't imagine the amount of adrenaline flowing through those SWAT team members, veins and moments like this. Inside the two rooms, police find scopes, 24 firearms, some of the rifles
Starting point is 01:38:41 resting on bipod so we could, you know, quickly move from one to the next. Many equipped with high-tech telescopic sights, 14 AR-15 rifles, outfitted with bump stocks. Later's investigators, you know, also found, you know, a mononetrate chemical compound using homemade bombs inside Patix-Carat Mandelae Bay. How much more damage did he want to inflict that day? In addition to the firearms and accessories found in Patix-Hotel Room, there was a note that included handwritten calculations where he needed to aim to maximize his accuracy. No contained the actual distance, the target, his elevation, bullet trajectory relative to line of fire. There was also a number of laptops in the suite, one of which was missing a hard drive.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Computer forensics will later discover hundreds of images of child pornography on the laptops. I didn't see that coming. This analysis was done by the FBI and wasn't made public until January of 2018. The search revealed, according to, sorry, the search revealed a disturbing search history and numerous, a numerous Jesus images of child pornography. What the fuck was going on with this guy? Just a few weeks after the shooting, Steven's brother Bruce, also, that child porn was arrested on child pornography charges.
Starting point is 01:39:49 Bruce, Panicked 58, would be detained on October 25th at an LA assisted living facility where he was awaiting surgery for spinal stenosis. A felony complaint said he had over 600 explicit images of minors. In 2014, at also swapped pornography, he faced 19 counts of sexual exploitation of a child, a one count of possession of child pornography.
Starting point is 01:40:09 LAPD said the images were discovered inside a building where panic was squatting in 2014, but they couldn't find him at the time. After his brother's mass shooting, they learned where he was. I'm guessing through Steven's computers and obtained a warrant. Is that related to what he did in Vegas?
Starting point is 01:40:22 Like, why the fuck in Petos come up so much in these stories? Really bothers me. I don't seek him out. I thought we'd be PIDO free this week. PEDEX remains to be sent to Stanford University to receive a more extensive analysis of his brain. They would find nothing out of the ordinary. No loadings of a stroke, no tumor, no frontal lobe injuries,
Starting point is 01:40:42 nothing unusual in terms of neurology that any of we could point to in regards to some kind of, ah, that's why I did it, you know, explanation. Also during the medical investigation, it will come out that Patix doctor wanted him to take antipressam medication in the final months of his life, but he refused. His doctor also found it to be an odd man showing little emotion in general and expressing fear in general of medications. Back to October 1st, two minutes after midnight,
Starting point is 01:41:05 almost two hours after the first shots are fired, the Las Vegas Police tweet confirmation that one suspect is down, but the Vegas strip still in chaos. On the streets below, red and blue police lights, speckled a strip, drowning out his famous neon, many who escaped the venue, who had ran for the casinos, the confusion are now walking around aimlessly,
Starting point is 01:41:23 summer dragging luggage. Others are still wearing blood-drenched clothing, right? The color drain from their faces. First responders descended upon the scene. Civilians did their part too, taking literal truckloads of wounded to local trauma units. The injured were sometimes moved in wheelbarrows on luggage carts. More than 100 people were treated at University Medical Center alone, Sunrise Hospital, and Medical Center also quickly becomes flooded with the wounded. About 12 hours after the ordeal began, Desiree Boyle, 35 sat in the East Valley Hospital,
Starting point is 01:41:53 small surgical waiting room as her husband underwent surgery. Next to her, several others, praying, checking their phones, some pacing, looking anxious, weary. Occasionally a doctor or surgeon would pop pop in calling out the name of a patient like clockwork or swarm of loved ones would rush over, huddling to hear the news. Robert Kander of San Bernardino, California sat in limbo, his head down, his daughter Lauren and her boyfriend, Zach, both 21 had been in the festival all weekend and Zach had been shot. Hours early, the 55 year old Kor had been at home watching the Sunday night news when headlines about the shooting began
Starting point is 01:42:27 taking across the screen. Panic, he's bolted to Las Vegas. Good dad, just before he left, got a text from Zach who said, hey, this is Zach, I got shot in the back, but I made your daughter run like hell. I'm truly sorry, I'm not with her. She's safe with Jody, love you both. I'll keep you updated.
Starting point is 01:42:41 God, that is the kind of dude. I want my daughter, Monroe today. You know, when she starts dating in 20 or 30 or 40 years, uh, currently, I'm trying to talk her and her brother into just being weirdos, who never date. And I just want to live a home forever. All right. But they don't, they don't seem into it for some reason. Even when I promise that they can, they can play as much playstations as they want. They can have the basement themselves and not even have to pay rent. Oh, well, uh, when he got to the hospital, candor found Lauren waiting in the lobby. He wrapped her up in his arms. He was lucky.
Starting point is 01:43:06 She wasn't hurt. Zach would recover. Others, of course, would not be so lucky. 58 people would die at the scene or in hospitals immediately afterwards. 411 wounded, you know, with the gunshots, the ensuing panic, the stampede, brings the number of injured to 867.
Starting point is 01:43:22 A female survivor will die of complications from injuries on November 5th, 2019, and then officially declared as a fatality in the shooting in August of 2020. Initially authorities did not list her in the body count, but then changed her minds. Another female survivor also died from gunshot wound complications May 26, 2020, reported as a fatality in the shooting that September. The Las Vegas police would update the official death toll from 58 to 60 on October 1, 2020,
Starting point is 01:43:48 the third anniversary of the shooting, and that of course is not count Stephen Patock taking his own life, which you raise it to 61. The deadliest mass shooting committed by a single person, US history. Okay, now back to October 2nd, 2017. So 12, 31 AM, 31 minutes past midnight, more than an hour since paddock was found dead, the police department send a follow up tweet saying that they think paddock was the only
Starting point is 01:44:11 attacker after initially thinking they were multiple attackers. You know, they had had much time to process all this insanity. Conspiracy theorists would read Lombardo changing the story as obviously a sign of a cover-up. False flag operation crisis actors, deep state. Two hours, 26 minutes after it began, the massacre is officially declared over. That afternoon, Nevada governor Brian Sandeval declared the state of emergency
Starting point is 01:44:35 at Public Health Medical Disaster in Clark County. As the sun begins to set, hundreds of Las Vegas locals and tourists gathered vigils throughout the valley to mourn, weep, and share in their disbelief. In front of Las Vegas City Hall, sorrowful singing grows into triumphant chance of hallelujah. In Jesus, Silverado High School student, Ethan Demio stands alongside his younger brothers holding the sign that reads, we are strong, we are battle-born, in the Central Valley, at the International Church of Las Vegas,
Starting point is 01:45:01 faith and community leaders from several different backgrounds, comfort of crowd of about 150, many attendees sniffled between sermons and speeches from Clark County commissioners. Also on October 2nd, ISIS will now claim responsibility for the shooting because why the fuck not? We covered these insane dickheads way back in suck 27. ISIS short for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, the military Islamic extremist group that follows the jihadist doctrine. ISIS short for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, the military Islamic extremist group that follows the jihadist doctrine, said that Stephen Patek was a soldier of the Islamic State,
Starting point is 01:45:32 but gave no evidence to back of this claim because there was no evidence of this in existence because he wasn't. Siding in a security source, the group's media arm, Amok, said Patek carried out the attack in response to calls to target coalition countries isis was in double down this claim released in second statement claiming patrick had recently converted to islam and identified him as a bu uh... a bide
Starting point is 01:45:54 elbar i wish it would have identified him as bingo bruce bingo bingo bruce the second uh... the isis supporting albatara media foundation also claim that the biggest the Vegas shooting was all Islamic State. Yeah, because you know, fuck it, why not? If you did that after the massacre, ISIS will release the 100th issue of their weekly al-Naba
Starting point is 01:46:13 newsletter with an infographic on a blood-soaked rendering of the Mandalay Bay Hotel and claim that Patek had converted Islam again six months before the shooting. Right, just a little propaganda. I'm sure a lot of scared ignorant brainwashed people believed him. They wrote that brother Abu Abdul bar stationed himself for the invasion on the 32nd floor of a hotel, overlooking a concert, opened fire continuously on the crown using 23 guns and more than 2000 rounds and died. May Allah accept him after exhausting his ammunition.
Starting point is 01:46:40 I mean, yes, it was 24 guns, 24 guns. 23 was initially reported by some outlets. Of course, it didn't jie with any of the evidence. Stephen Patic had not run out of ammunition, not even close. Officers found several loaded magazines in Patic's room. The evidence report said that along with 1,050 casings littering the floor, they found 5,280 unused rounds of live ammunition, so he didn't even come close to you, so all is ammo.
Starting point is 01:47:03 The FBI quickly, of course, dismisses ISIS's claims saying at this stage, there's no evidence, paddock head connections, of any kind, to any international terrorist group. Alex Jones and others of his ilk, not so quick, to dismiss the ISIS claims. ISIS had also, by the way, claimed responsibility for a bunch of other attacks in the past two years that they couldn't reasonably claim like in June 2017 when ISIS claimed an attack at a casino in the Philippine capital of vanilla. But authorities dismissed the claim saying the suspect who left dozens dead was an angry and dead gambler, not a terrorist. Why do they make these false claims to spread fear and alarm to make themselves seem more
Starting point is 01:47:38 powerful than they actually are? They had been steadily losing international attention and political power for years leading up this attack in July of 2017. Iraqi security forces had driven ISIS out of Mosul and in Mosul and in the weeks that followed US backed forces closed in on the Syrian city of Iraq, a so-called capital of the group self declared caliphate. As ISIS forces retreated in Syria and Iraq, they lost oil reserves, key sources of income for the group.
Starting point is 01:48:05 So they were in the process of losing their ability to self-fund. One thing that had made them unique among terrorist organizations, and Duncan Gartam, NBC News, security analyst noted that the group's spike in claims of responsibility indicative of its increasing desperation. Okay. October 3rd, 2017. Now by 8 30 AM on October 30, I listen, 36 hours after the worst mass shooting modern history began upstairs, guests at the Mandalay Bay already back at the casino floor.
Starting point is 01:48:35 Slot machines, humming, two poker tables and full swing racing fans filling the sports book and Washington Democrats are pushing bands on a saw rifles and Republicans volume back that the problem was not guns. At a news conference on October 5th, Las Vegas Sheriff Joseph Lombardo still reeling from the magnitude of the shooting. It had only been four days since dozens were killed and hundreds were wounded in the city, he would end up making some statements that again would spur on conspiracy theories. An anguish Lombardo asked at the news conference, do you think this was all accomplished on his own? You've got to make the assumption he had to have help at some point
Starting point is 01:49:07 With more information from the ongoing FBI and investigation lumbar to later would move away from the possibility that paddock had help Others wouldn't right. This is all signs of deep state stuff to a lot of people in the days after the shooting conspiracy theorist ignite across the internet Would ignite info wars Alex Jones one of the first on the scene, on his radio show that aired Friday, October 6th, Alex Jones said, clearly there's more than one shooter. They said there's no way he acted alone. He had help. Info Wars has backed its claim of an accomplice by highlighting supposed evidence like a room service receipt from Mr. Patrick's hotel room would seem to suggest that two groups, two guests, excuse me, have been present. Why is that? Who knows?
Starting point is 01:49:46 Maybe does that extra food? Maybe you had an escort over. Hopefully, you know, they weren't underage. Sunday, October 8th, Alex Jones said in the Facebook posts, it's a fact. Info Wars has been the most accurate media operation so far telling you that he did not act alone. The Drudge Report now splashes several Info Wars stories about the massacre across its traffic driving home page
Starting point is 01:50:05 Wishing Mr. Jones theories into millions of screens. So that's a fucking great job guys Let's get his awesome hot takes out there to as many people as humanly possible Unlike Stephen Pattick we know what Alex Jones's motivation was and all this right money back in June 2017 info wars website reach more than 1.4 million unique visitors, according to web tracking firm Comscore. Right? You sold a lot of awesome brain vitamins that you could take to become as smart as he was. A lot of helpful, you know, silver water.
Starting point is 01:50:35 His numbers fell off in August big time, way down to 689,000 visitors. He needed a big story. He needed some deep state, false flag, crisis, act of shit. His take on the biggest shooting went viral in November nearly four million people visit a site that month so business fucking way up very good. Others are supporting him long time propaganda's Roger Stone, a frequent info wars contributor appeared on air to argue that the traditional news media was hiding the facts about the Las Vegas massacre from the public. Of course he did. Before bringing on Roger Stone, as his guest, Mr. Jones said,
Starting point is 01:51:06 all I know is they're trying to blame gun owners when it was patriots that got targeted. They're making a move. The Democrats have said that they're going to have a huge uprising in October, November. It's here, it's here, brother. Can you smell the fear, brother? The whole Romania, he reminds me of a,
Starting point is 01:51:21 like a deluded, like a crazier fucking Hulk or something. As someone constantly annoyed with both Republicans and Democrats, this should have so fucking ridiculous. It happened so much, right? Twist a tragedy into political gain. Pander to the portion of your base that is consistently all too willing to swallow any lies you sell, make him hate the other side even more than they already do. So they'll keep voting for your team. Well, more people ever wake up and see how transparent these political games really are, right,
Starting point is 01:51:45 to smoke and mirrors, get people thinking the other side is evil, get them scared. And then they won't even notice when you make it harder for them to get healthcare, or when you make it harder for their kids to go to college, or when you provide more tax cuts to the rich with benefits that actually don't trickle down to the working class,
Starting point is 01:51:58 or when you don't pass the proper funny measures to give more money to say public education. So the next generation will be smarter, maybe smart enough to see through all this bullshit and create real change. That is not the best interest of shady multi-millionaires like Roger Stone. Do you know that in the spring of 2021, the Department of Justice filed a civil lawsuit against Roger Stone and his wife, Nidia, accusing the couple of only in the IRS nearly two million in unpaid income taxes. Department of Justice also accused the family of setting up a company called Drake Ventures
Starting point is 01:52:28 that allowed them to shield their personal income from enforced collection and fund a lavish lifestyle. But you know what, he's Patriot. Loves America. He's a good guy. Siding a high level CIA official in top psychiatrist from the federal government. Alex Jones now said they're saying clearly he's Antifa. I just picked him with a little earpiece. federal government. Alex Jones now said they're saying clearly he's Antifa.
Starting point is 01:52:46 I just picked him with a little earpiece. I'm just getting awarded from a top psychiatrist from the federal government. Like does he even have those? Clearly it's the MO to trigger a helter, skeletal revolution. Fucking what? Who is saying this, Alex?
Starting point is 01:52:59 What? Alex Jones made all kinds of claims about the Las Vegas shooting, right? In the months of follow, he alternatively named called Steven as being a member of the Islamic State, left his activists, anti-Trump radical, stewed for a broader conspiracy, intent on disrupting democracy in general. Could Steven Patek, the lone Vegas shooter, have been a patty to kick off the left's war with the right in the streets of America? He wrote on his Facebook page, fear, fear, fear. The radical left is coming for you any day now. I've been hearing that from people like Jones for so long. Still waiting. I'm not sure that the left is
Starting point is 01:53:35 real well armed, right? Most of my friends on the left, no offense to them. Not the scariest toughest people I know. I mean, if I was gonna put together a shooting competition team and say, I'm not gonna pick them. I have some friends on the right, though, and family members, they can light it up. It doesn't make sense to me, like the right sphere of like an uprising from the left. I think the right has a big advantage,
Starting point is 01:53:58 as far as being armed and being like well armed and knowing how to use it. Not sure what Jones is afraid of. It's almost like he just manufactured in fear at a nothing, so he can sell more fucking shitty vitamins. Those who believe Alex Jones then amplified the unsubstantiated and antifa ISIS allegations on social media and a storm of tweets, Facebook posts,
Starting point is 01:54:17 YouTube videos. A few weeks later, the theory takes on another life of its own. In an alternative investigation spearheaded by two men, Brad Johnson, cia officer rich higgins former panic on official who serve for a few months in the white house as a director of strategic planning for the national security council is fucking terrifying these two bozos at
Starting point is 01:54:35 these positions uh... seems like higgins career in the government was pretty turbulent did is a fucking maniac for what i can see according to ed McCallum former director of the combating terrorism technical support office and Higgins boss from 2002 to 2010 Higgins often butted heads with leadership and made enemies at the Pentagon He left the defense department in 2013 at a history of propagating controversial ideas read a wackadoodle Crazy ideas
Starting point is 01:55:03 An ally of Michael Flynn presidentald trump's first short live national security visor and political strategist even banan uh... steve and he gets traveled from the with the two thousand sixteen presidential campaign before joining the administration a controversial memo he penned while at the national security council sund up his world view when he said cultural markedest narratives the forced inclusion of post-modern oceans of tolerance, such as transgender acceptance,
Starting point is 01:55:27 are destroying America's Judeo-Christian culture. He argued this was all part of a larger political warfare campaign, waged by Islamists, in concert, with the hard left. That's how they're going to fucking take America down. Now with guns, but with new penises and new poisons, pretty soon we'll all have to be transgender. Hope you don't like those dicks male meat sacks because Marxist Islamic left. They're gonna turn them inside out.
Starting point is 01:55:51 That's a real liberal agenda we keep hearing about, right? Get ready to lose those sweet pussies ladies. The hard left is gonna fucking turn them into dicks. Why can't the left and the right just argue over like economic policies and equal rights. Health care access, gun control, abortion, etc. Why does some have to make the battle so much wilder and crazier? I guess because fear sells, right?
Starting point is 01:56:11 Because they're conspiratorially minded, or liars who know stuff like that just further as political ends in their careers, or crazy. I don't know if I can hate these people. Can't find as much info about Brad Johnson. His LinkedIn page reads in part, Brad Johnson retired as a senior operations officer and chief of station with the Central Intelligence Agency's directorate of operations. He has served domestically and abroad with numerous assignments, often during periods of armed conflict. He has served overseas in direct support of the war against
Starting point is 01:56:37 terrorism. In the summer of 2017, Mr. Johnson founded the nonprofit organization Americans for intelligence reform to create awareness for political corruption and diminish capabilities within the intelligence community and deraise support for CIA families who have lost family members and the performance of their duties, which Johnson often speaks at university's churches and events. I mean reading that, he's not like a fucking great dude, not like a fucking hero. And maybe he was, maybe he was a hero, you can be a hero and you can be crazy. He's also of course a deep state believer uh... he would explain his theories of what went down in vegas and interviews with fringe media outlets
Starting point is 01:57:11 he gets johnson met in the two thousand's they believe that paddock did the whole thing out of some islamic state deep state and tifa kind of situation plot and what was their main piece of evidence for this well they said that paddock was a registered Democrat in Florida. Mike dropped boom. Do I do I need to say more? But actually, that's not true. He wasn't. According to Patek's family, he had no political affiliation. Actually, seemed
Starting point is 01:57:35 like he was pretty conservative. One of when this told Las Vegas police that he was kind of fanatical about anti-government conspiracies. And then he believed someone had to wake the American public up. Maybe that's his motive right there. And get them to arm themselves in response to looming threats. What if fucking Alex Jones got him so worked up that he did this and then Alex Jones used him as like a painting him as an enemy to work others up. I don't doubt it.
Starting point is 01:57:58 Family members and associates of Pat, painted a picture of a man who load restrictions on gun ownership and believe the second amendment was under siege. So really doubt he was part of the fringe left. And also self-made businessmen don't typically go far left. Don't generally love more taxes, social services system that they often see in my experience as rewarding people who did not work as hard as they did. Way better chance, you know, he was someone who was possibly a big Alex Jones fan. Johnson and Higgins would claim that Paddock had targeted country music fans
Starting point is 01:58:26 and natural Trump fan base to attack the right. And because Paddock was an actor, crisis actor for Antifa, right? The deep state and ISIS prevented the FBI then from pursuing correct leads. Hmm, what, where do the lizard people factor in all this? What about the grays? I asked about how the hundreds of agents who had participated in the investigation could possibly all be in on the same deep state cover up. All these two had to say was that almost nothing you think is true is true. I fucking love it with these assholes. Give weird movie
Starting point is 01:58:55 answers to tough questions that I don't explain anything. What evidence do you have? I'll all of this. What evidence do I have you ask? How about the truth is out there? Wait, isn't that from the ex files? Yeah, you got me, but it's still place. Still place. Okay, you don't like that one? How about maybe you should do your own research? What? No, we did. And it doesn't line up with what you're saying, which is why I'm asking these questions So what what sources did you use for all this again? I check this one out Conspiracy theorist nothing more than a drugatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker Isn't that just an internet meme you just repeated? Hey still place. Hey, I've got more. How about? Trust no one got damn it. That's the ex files again. Alright, you got me again.
Starting point is 01:59:45 Okay, hold on, hold on, how about this? How about this? I got one, I got one. The world is in a constant conspiracy against the brave. That's another internet meme. Oh, one last chance, last chance. What about? And now that you're finding out, he's playing little games.
Starting point is 02:00:02 You calling me again, you say you want me around but I'm not sure now if I want to be down. God damn that those are fucking backstreet boys lyrics. I'm right I don't know I can answer your question. Johnson and Higgins would send their super credible theory to the CIA the FBI members of Congress and I'm guessing it was thrown in the trash. I'm hoping so far nobody than your real standing seems to have taken their their documents seriously or or even acknowledge
Starting point is 02:00:25 having received them. The findings of the Las Vegas police investigation, which the FBI assisted directly contradict Higgins and Johnson's theory. But even as there appears to be no hard evidence supporting Higgins and Johnson's theory, very little support for it outside the author's the document, it has had real world effects. Within weeks of the massacre, Higgins and Johnson and some small hive of like-minded, supposedly members of the intelligence and special ops community, I doubt it, informally teamed up to examine data they thought investigators were ignoring. Their investigation included an analysis of acoustic signatures from cell phone videos recorded during the shooting
Starting point is 02:00:58 and posted on YouTube, excuse me, which led them to believe a second gunman was likely involved. Document, excuse me, authored by Higgins and Johnson, argued that second gunman was likely involved document uh... she may author by hegans and johnson argue that paddock was likely killed by another collaborator in the room with him in an op-gone bad situation and who was this other collaborator well some poor bastard named brine hodge hodge who moved the u.s. from fake country not real full of crisis actors australia uh... in 2013 a man who worked as a concert promoter was in Las Vegas for business tonight at the massacre, staying in the same hotel as Patek in a room on the same floor.
Starting point is 02:01:32 According to Hodg, he was returning to his room as the shooting unfolded. He fled downstairs, hidden some bushes outside the hotel, posting on social media in real time about what he thought was happening, although he was not an actual witness to anything. He talked about being on site, then disseminated faulty information that he had pulled from the internet. At one point, he posted, there are multiple shooters with automatic weapons, but he doesn't actually know what's going on. This caught the attention of the Australian media. Hodg gave a series of interviews in the hours after the shooting in which he talked about hiding in those bushes until Las Vegas SWAT team led him to safety. Hodg
Starting point is 02:02:03 also made some misstatements. For instance, mistakenly saying that his hotel room was next door to the shooters. Exaggerated, it wasn't, it was down the hall on the same floor though. Hodge now find himself to be the subject of wild speculation on the internet in the days after shooting.
Starting point is 02:02:17 YouTubers, bloggers dissect his media appearances, raise questions about his various misstatements and assertions. Soon enough, this catches the attention of Higgins and Johnson those fucking that brain trust They examine his digital footprint on social media and come to believe he is the go between between ISIS and Antifa on this operation No, no evidence supports this theory Part of their document included detailed personal information about Hodge that would later lead to him getting death threats It said while not excessively political is clear from his Facebook activity that Mr. Hodge that would later lead to him getting death threats.
Starting point is 02:02:45 It said, while not excessively political, it is clear from his Facebook activity that Mr. Hodge supports left-wing issues such as transgender rights, supportive gay marriage, and that he holds some anti-right-wing views. Holy fuck, you guys! He's not anti-trans, so he must have something to do with the shooting. Demu, Antifa. Damn you. Why do people do this binary shit, right? I am a pro gun and also pro trends.
Starting point is 02:03:12 You can fucking, you can be a variety of things. These fucking idiots, I hate them. One piece of evidence given for Hodges supposed to ice his ties and I'm not making this up. This is the level these guys are operating on. He allegedly ate at a Turkish kebab restaurant in New Mexico in the days after the attack and they're like, ha ha, see? The truth is out there. Fucking what? I went off on the current Turkish government hard in the Armenian genocide,
Starting point is 02:03:36 hate the current party in power. Think their presence piece of shit by leather food. I fucking like the food. And I don't think ill of all their citizens in general Well, it's such a juvenile idiotic way to think Right like what like that's that that's the kind of person that During some kind of immigration situation. Well, I'm not eating tacos anymore. Well, congratulations. You're fucking moron And and you always like love what whatever president we happen to have Do you agree with all your fellow fellow citizens about literally anything at all? I'm guessing no. Would you want people to assume all Americans think the same way?
Starting point is 02:04:11 No, why do we do that to other nations and cultures? Silly us versus them boogie man bullshit. Some people will put an entire nation of others into the same cohesive group and by and by some people I just mean people not good at complex thinking, like the people who buy these conspiracies. Such an irrational thing to do. I'm guessing a whole bunch of people in Turkey, you know, think that the people running their government are fuckfaces. Okay, in this example, he didn't even eat at the restaurant, Hodgstead. He never even traveled to New Mexico.
Starting point is 02:04:38 So good job, Higgins and Johnson. I hope you both can become, maybe co-president someday, and lead our nation into glory. I hope you're working, I hope you have your own detective agency. You have such incredible minds, very impressive. When Hodg saw that he was becoming the focus of conspiracy theories, he changed his social media privacy settings so that only select friends and family had access. Two Higgins in Johnson, this was suspicious. How dare he try to avoid online and real-world harassment?
Starting point is 02:05:02 And their document, they wrote that in some cases, the purposeful deletion of data is evidence of consciousness of guilt. And since the Las Vegas attack, Mr. Hodg has attempted to conceal his electronic social media presence, locking down his Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook accounts. Hey, Higgins and Johnson, guys, again, almost as smart as Alc Jones, become so suspicious, they recommend in their report
Starting point is 02:05:24 that Hodg be put under national level surveillance. So that's fucking awesome. They also never contacted Hodge to get his side of the story. I mean, but why would they? They have all the answers they need. And the spring of 2018, the document Higgins Johnson made when public causing a title wave of harassment for Hodge who reported to the FBI wanted protection because he's worried about like getting fucking killed because of this.
Starting point is 02:05:44 August 3rd, 2018, almost a year after the shooting police release their final report on their investigation. They said they had no way to determine paddock's motive. Paddock did not leave a suicide note the investigation included no evidence. He belonged to any terrorist organizations, any hate groups had no criminal record. They determined he acted alone. In the course of their 10 month long investigation, investigators followed 2000 leads, watched 22,000 hours of video, examined 252,000 images. On January 29th, the FBI, 2019, the FBI will release their findings
Starting point is 02:06:19 about the investigation. And their report will highlight 10 findings. These are the key ones they found. Number one, his attack was neither directed, inspired, nor enabled by ideologically motivated people or groups. He conspired with no one, and he acted alone. Two, there was no single motivating factor behind the attack. Three, investigators found no manifesto, video, suicide note, or other communication relating to the attack. However, he desired to die by suicide.
Starting point is 02:06:46 4. He wanted to gain infamy via a mass casualty attack and was influenced by the memory of his father. Bingo, bingo, bingo, brusso! Convicted bank robber and dykenos psychopath. 5. His decision to kill people while they were being entertained was consistent with his personality. He had a history of exploiting others through manipulation and duplicity. Sometimes resulting in a cruel deprivation of their expectations without warning. That's interesting. Six, he had no ill will against a specific casino hotel, the music festival, or anyone killed or injured in the attack.
Starting point is 02:07:17 Seven, he engaged in significant, methodical, internet-based research regarding site selection, police tactics, and response, and ballistics. Eight, he did not plan to escape the Mandelae Bay Hotel room after the attack and took multiple calculated steps to ensure he could kill himself at a time and in a matter of his choosing. So I was not planning on going to the Philippines. Nine, he kept interpersonal relationships and was not isolated before the attack. Ten, he had a really nice vase and fake plant that, you know, we just thought
Starting point is 02:07:44 was a nice touch and really kind of like uh... brought the room together now uh... ten finding the illustrate he was in many ways similar to other active shooters the fby has studied and that uh... you know you just don't often find uh... the answers to the stuff and fby behavioral analysis unit did not find a single or clear motivating factor for his actions just concluded he was in financial trouble uh... he had you you know, lost $1.5 million recently through gambling and just having difficulty coping with his age.
Starting point is 02:08:10 As he grew older, Patic became increasingly distressed and intolerant of stimuli while simultaneously failing to navigate common life stressors affiliated with aging. The FBI's report said the report was just three pages, leading to disappointment for many who had hoped the investigation would reveal so much more. Close to 16 months after the massacre,
Starting point is 02:08:29 the FBI's long way to report did little to shed light on the investigation, left its main question about motive unanswered. Aaron Raul, special agent and charge of the FBI's Las Vegas office, defended his agency's handling of the investigation called it a Herkulean effort. More than 1,000 FBI employees worked on the investigation,
Starting point is 02:08:45 he said, adding that it would be a mischaracterization to deem the FBI's inability to identify a specific motive as a failure. Ralph said everything that could be done to figure out why has been done. And it makes me think of that quote we started this episode off with again. People are mysterious, even to themselves.
Starting point is 02:09:02 Conspiracy brain types would use the lack of finding of a motive as evidence of course that the FBI withholding information. But is that necessarily true? Jack Levin, author several books on serial killings, Professor Emeritus of Sociology and Criminology at Northeastern University in Boston, said he doubted authorities had any reason
Starting point is 02:09:21 to withhold information about Patek. He said he would have liked the FBI report to detail whether a catastrophic loss might have triggered Patek to undertake the attack. He said, I've studied hundreds of cases and in almost every case, there has been a catastrophic loss. Loss of a job, loss of lots of money, becoming deeply in debt, losing a relationship or loved one, separation from important friends, uh, and eviction. Loss Vegas police have declined to comment on the FBI report,
Starting point is 02:09:46 but their report clicking in at 187 pages you know didn't find a motive either. Levin said he thinks Patik just wanted, mostly to be remembered, to be infamous. Levin said people say we don't know Patik's motive, but I think his motive was to go down in infamy. That's a motive that's shared by lots of killers. And then finally on March 26, 2019 2019 after over a year of political debate, a federal ban
Starting point is 02:10:08 on bump stocks goes into effect. The push to make them legal led largely because of the Vegas shooting. The final rule clarifies the definition of a machine gun and the gun control act and national firearms act includes bump stock type devices, ie devices that allow a semi-automatic firearm to shoot more than one shot with a single pole to trigger by harnessing the recoil energy. The semi-automatic fire arm to which it is fixed, to which it is fixed so that the trigger resets
Starting point is 02:10:32 and continues firing without additional physical manipulation of the trigger by the shooter. There have been numerous legal challenges to the band and some appear to be ongoing, but from what I can tell, you can no longer purchase Bumstocks in the US currently. And now let's hop on out of here. Good job soldier, you've made it back.
Starting point is 02:10:53 Barely. Okay, before I recap today's episode, let's hop into a little edit to the internet, to see what some of the web's finest minds have to say about possible alternative explanations regarding what happened in Las Vegas on October 1st, 2017. And a video titled conspiracy quote unquote nuts, right to be suspicious about Vegas uploaded on October 18th. You know, there's some pundits entertaining some Alex Jones type shit we've talked about. So some some geniuses reveal how smart they are in the comment section underneath. Uh, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, chemo writes underneath this video in 2017.
Starting point is 02:11:46 There have been so many lies and secrets over the years and getting worse. So we have to be conspiracy nuts. They earned our lack of trust with certain groups and people. Guys, guys, we have to believe in conspiracies, deep state, crisis actors, celebrity clones, lizard people, area 50, all of it. We have to for the good of America. Kimo seems like they have a real good head of their shoulders. Thomas Neal also posed in 2017, all these commenters, I've selected post in 2017.
Starting point is 02:12:17 The fact that they have to tip toe around the term conspiracy nut, just to ask legitimate questions should say a thing or two. It does say a thing or two. Yeah, it does say a thing or two says you're fucking crazy You know, Thomas you give people who believe in some some conspiracy legitimate ones a bad name Pills Nirmgard writes Mandalay Bay will release the video just as soon as the CIA and FBI are done filming it Fuck yeah bro. Cranking out deep fakes in the same studio
Starting point is 02:12:47 they used to fake the moon landing, noise. And Danny writes, it's not conspiracy. It's common sense. You're stupid if you don't believe things that no evidence supports. I see what you do there, genius. So many other comments like this, a lot of back patting, a lot of high fives, right?
Starting point is 02:13:02 Like we're all super smart, right guys? I mean we're smarter than everyone. That's why we see what others don't lot of high fives, right? Like we're all super smart, right guys? I mean, we're smarter than everyone. That's why we see what others don't. We know the truth, right? Love you guys. Love being on team smarter than everyone. Then Mario Marin, oh boy, kicks it up, several notches. Goes way deeper to get to the truth.
Starting point is 02:13:21 9.3017 was the last day of Yam Kapoor. The shooting happened on Sunday at the Harvest 91N1001 9-11.01. In Roman numerals, it is written, I-X-X-I, move the two X together and you have the Masonic Square and Compass. The eye on the side stand for the two pillars and towers. Joccan and Boaz, the Sun and the Moon. At the event the two towers arrive behind the stage, that's where the directional speakers were hidden,
Starting point is 02:13:51 which simulated the gunshots. Mandalay Bay is a camp with a Bohemian grove, and the original owner of the Mandalay Bay attend the elite camp. Sheldon and Miriam Anders Edelsen are known as Sabatian Frankus Jews. Edelsen had a pre-plan meeting with Trump, and then this just happened.
Starting point is 02:14:12 Jim Murin, owner of MGM International, came out for Hillary Bigtime. He's a Republican, supposedly, but now he heads the American Infrastructure for the Homeland Security Committee. Michael Chertoff, ex-DHS Secretary, Rothschild Zionist, leads the Chertoff Group, which represents one of the leading manufacturers of whole-body imaging machines. Rapperscan Systems, special agent Aaron Rouse, head of the FBI Las Vegas, married to Megan Rouse,
Starting point is 02:14:33 daughter of John Podesta, son of Pete Rouse. Chief of Staff, Senator Obama, Chief of Staff, President Obama. He got the job in 2016, assigned by James Comey, came from counterintelligence, clandestine operations. That's the Kazarian Zionist Kabal, responsible for the Syop and treason. Mandalay Bay equals Bernal Mede, a Syop like Boston Orlando, San Bernardino, Sandy Hoax, 9-11, etc., etc. Also the Oregon standoff, nothing else than a staged event to instigate US militia. The strategy was developed by the Tavistock Institute called
Starting point is 02:15:05 controlling mass hystereteria. It is trauma-based mind control to the mass media. The emotional pain sets in as the MSM is anchoring the source of the trauma to an object. In this case white people, Christians, conservatives, American patriots, mentally ill men, gun owners. Much of the program needed to create an aversion to white people carrying guns for protection, also supposed to look non-conclusive, unrealistic, gross, exaggerated, to filter out and identify dissonant parties who do not believe the official narrative.
Starting point is 02:15:32 Label them as domestic terrorists and enter them into a DHS database. Last but not least, believers are made to argue with debate and fight non-believers. The conspiracy theorists in order to divide and conquer, I am X Intel. And this was planned in executed by SAD, Special Activities Division of the CIA, FBI, and DHS. In compliance with local shares department and hospitals, most of the victims and participants who are giving interviews are not crisis actors, but undercover agents. Crisis actors are used for drills with run parallel to the event, or a day before, as a misdirection and a way out.
Starting point is 02:16:04 In case something goes wrong, the chief coordinator in this case, Aaron Rouse would call it off and sell it as part of a drill, since they are so-called capstone events, heavy gag orders, as well as non-disclosure agreements imposing big fines among prison senses, if the operation is revealed, need to be signed by each and every participant who is in the NO! I have also seen the cyber-warrior binder binder at the DHS headquarters in Washington DC. But this is fucking YouTube comment, by the way. It's a fucking novel, which Obama approved right before he was elected to office. The outlines the operating procedure for all government shields to push the official
Starting point is 02:16:35 narrative of a stage sia up on social media, no matter how ridiculous. And keep track of all the conspiracy theorists, a term coined by the CIA to label all people who don't buy the official report, the JFK single, should get a report, or the war in the region. I mean, I don't buy that, but this is fucking too crazy. The Crown Corporation, out of the inner city of London, one of the only three independent city states in the world, which consisted of the crypto-Jewish banking families, Kazaar, Askinson, Bloodline, not Semites, Rothschild, Warburg, Oppenheimer, Kuhn, Schiff, Loeb, Soxcota, Windsor's, created issue the Fiat money to the Federal Reserve.
Starting point is 02:17:07 Look up the Federal Reserve Act 1933. This guy's going fucking deep. All Americans are debt slaves to fictitious Jewish corporations founded in 1871 by Berser ticket bonds, coaxed into putting life into their all-caps strawmen's name by signing commercial contracts, like driver's license, as marriage licenses, business licenses, et cetera, etc. etc.
Starting point is 02:17:25 The U.S. operates under maritime admiralty law and its uniform commercial code. We are still under the war power of the US. Jesus Christ, act of 1941 and under soft martial law, therefore no American owned anything, not even their underwear. The IRS income tax falls under the war power of the act and is totally voluntary. Everyone who calls it a citizen, person or resident within a US corporate documentation automatically consents and falls into the commerce and trade law of the Vatican's uniform commercial code NYX, get the fucking pulp in there! United Nations resides on our soil and under State Department Publication 7277. The US is outlined as being the world police force. The United States and Russia are the
Starting point is 02:18:01 two disarmament police countries and once we are done disarming the world, then Russia will disarm us. In 1992, the U.S. Congress approved the UN Charter, became, this is a treaty, the superseeds, the Constitution of the U.S. The UN Charter is now the law of the land. The UN Treaty article is 55 and 56 states that the U.S. Congress no longer abides by the U.S. Constitution. As of 1992, America completely ceased to exist. They just haven't told the people yet, and they will not tell them until they have totally
Starting point is 02:18:27 regulated the Second Amendment and taken everybody's firearms away. Check out the open sky's treaty of 92 between Russia and the US. It's a treaty that made a picture like if he's like he's talking to the dinner table like the family have left six minutes ago. He's by himself. It's a treaty that mandates Russia to conduct flyovers of our country to monitor the dismantling of our military, our missiles, tanks, bombers, close your military bases. Likewise as treaty mandates, the US conduct flyovers to Russia to monitor the dismantling
Starting point is 02:18:51 of bombers, missiles, tanks. I have no one to talk to. Please, I'm very lonely. Close your military bases. Even though the US is the world's main disarmament, please force, along with Russia, this process is always led by Russia as outlined under the world disarmament agency. This, this, who, the two mill, now he's just like, he's falling asleep himself. The two military, world powers are downsizing and coming together to form the world police. George H.S. of you, Bush created the jihad movement when he was out of the CIA. Come on, guys, please just listen a little bit
Starting point is 02:19:17 longer. He brought a group of Arabs together to teach them to crop version of Islam, then train them, arm them, use them to overthrow the USSR and put in a new world compliant Russian government. Any country doesn't comply with a race for peace, rule disarmament, and adhere to the agendas put forth by the UN, gets hit with terrorism, false flags. That's why the CIA, together with Israel's Masad created ISIS, is really, come up, please some of this into me, is really secret intelligence service to disarm and destabilize them at least.
Starting point is 02:19:43 Most of ISIS soldiers are Saudi, I don't want to take my meds. Our Saudis and treated it by Israeli hospitals, now it's a mental institution. Once Russia and the US are done disarming the world, they will disarm each other. Laws were passed decades ago. I know if I talk about this earlier, but I didn't want to say again. Please don't beat me the jacket. Our outline, you're right to own a gun. Disarmerment in the US public law, 8-7-2-9-7, and a very careful process of getting those
Starting point is 02:20:04 who won't go along with the plan either kick out of the military or send overseas to the Sarmar of the countries. We are in stage 4 of 4 in the peace race, now it's been like 3 years later. He's been run by himself. All this business will test any of other countries I ran North Korea instead of his BS. Nuclear weapons don't exist. Haha, this is a fear mongering scam.
Starting point is 02:20:20 Little boy, fat man, mixed with 8,000 pounds, mixture of D&T of tnt napalm magnesium for the glaring flash the houses of hereshima naga sake were mainly out of wooden paper uh... he's at like a hearing out to see if they can let him out of the institution the victims burned to death by fire not ready agents and so fire bombed all of our senior military officers know this and are complying most of them are new age free mason's and exactly the same now he's back in the room by himself are exactly the same in other countries military's are all free mason's and exactly the same now he's back in the room by himself. Are exactly the same in other countries, military's are all free mason's who believe in a world where government. Obama, not a Muslim, now he's a lunch with other patients who are just fucking glaring at him. Putin, Bush, Clinton, President of China, all free mason's, Trump is a free mason.
Starting point is 02:20:57 Once the first militia I did not write any of this by the way, promise is all one fucking post. Once the first militia or patriot is trying to be disarmed There will be a civil war the second continental army of the Republic plus many other militias are ready prepared to fight a 15-year civil war to re-incentate the Constitution as the extreme law of the land There will be a civil war because real patriots are prepared and willing to fight in the defense of the Constitution That's why the government is preparing by setting up the FEMA camps buying millions of holopoint rounds adding tactical armored vehicles to their fleet Right now it now's on his deathbed, he has fucking days left to live. When Russian soldiers dressed in our military or NATO uniform start confiscating firearms and rounding up patriots in the middle of the night, that's when the war will officially begin. Civil war will happen 100% in America, that's when the real truth will be unveiled.
Starting point is 02:21:40 Holy shit. That comment wasn't ridiculed in the comment section. That shows how bad the overall comment section is. You know, it had some thumbs up, right? People are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been saying a lot of the same shit to a lot of my family, my former family, back when I had a family, back when people still talk to me.
Starting point is 02:21:58 I said a lot of these same things. Yeah, Bohemian Grove, right? Siaops, whatever the fuck else it is, red. That's what happened. Or, or under pressed gambling addict became disillusioned with his life and wanted to end it and decided to take a bunch of people with him because he was an arrogant, misenthrough who hated society and wanted to be infamous. Or that.
Starting point is 02:22:15 Or sometimes shitty people do really shitty things and never tell us why. And that's all there is to it. Right? Or that. Let's get the fuck out of here That was fucking well I will say I do want to apologize someone for the length it when I went over it It didn't seem as long as when I was reciting it just now What is that person who is that what is that person doing right now? I'm sure I'm sure there's still work on the manifesto like maybe they they just like they hit click on that and then I got more to say. And then I don't know, they got kicked off
Starting point is 02:22:47 YouTube and now they're just like, I picked them with a typewriter. They've just been adding to that ever since that post. You know, they just they just enough to kind of stay alive and just constantly heading out of the tie-ups and the Russians and China. I mean, you got the two two two three seven four. What do we actually know about this terrible tragedy? On the evening of October 1st, 2017, while country singer Jason Aldeen was on stage as a closing act of the Route 91 Harvest Country Music Festival, Steven Patek fired from a 32nd floor window with the Mandalay Bay Hotel with a variety of weapons, including semi-automatic rifles, outfitted with bump stocks, right, to make it similar to fully automatic machine guns. He killed 60 people, gunfire, trampoline left, 867 injured, biggest mass shooting
Starting point is 02:23:26 committed by an individual in US history. And we don't know why he did it. Frustrating, but true. We don't always get to understand why people do terrible, terrible things. Not everyone explains why they do what they do in life. Not everyone knows why they do what they do. Not all stories have endings wrapped up in nice little bows where all the questions get answered. Life just doesn't work that way, right? It's very hard for a lot of people to accept that. A lot of people so desperately want a reason for everything.
Starting point is 02:23:54 It's gotta be a reason. There actually doesn't have to be a reason. Why are we here? What's the point of life, right? What's the nature of God? Why does Steven Patic deal with what he did on October 1st, 2017? Who the fuck knows?
Starting point is 02:24:04 We just don't know about so much shit and that can drive us crazy and it does drive some of us crazy And then people like Alex Jones whether consciously or not they take advantage of this need for answers I Lose Jones and people like him, but I don't hate conspiracy sometimes they do hold the answers It healthy to have some skepticism important to look at alternative theories Especially considering some of the shady shit our government has actually done. Shady CIA stuff that is for sure happened is still happening.
Starting point is 02:24:32 I'm guessing, probably right now. But that's not a good reason to just keep jamming puzzle pieces in where they don't fuck and fit. Well good is that, dude. That's not healthy. That's not smart. It's stupid and sometimes cruel. Accusing families have murdered first graders of being crisis actors so you can sell more supplements.
Starting point is 02:24:48 I mean, that's flat out evil. Pedaling falsehoods like pizza cake and people riled up because it's good for business. That's terrible. It's horribly unethical. What's good is dialogue, investigation, fact-based research. Shit, Alex Jones doesn't do because,
Starting point is 02:25:01 I don't think at least, he's not your friend. I think he just wants to make money off of your fear. But we ever learn more about Stephen Patic or his motivations. I mean, maybe I doubt it unsatisfying for sure, but that's, uh, you know what? That's truth for you. Truth just doesn't fucking care about your feelings, doesn't care how fucking satisfying it is or is not. It just is.
Starting point is 02:25:23 Nimrod likes to keep us guessing sometimes. Now let's look back at what the story is again for sure in today's top five takeaways. Time suck, top five takeaways. Number one on the night of October 1st, 2017, a man named Stephen Pate committed the worst shooting by an individual in American history. When he rained down bullets from a hotel window onto unsuspecting concert goers at the nearby Route 91 Country Music Carvest Festival. 61 people including two victims who would die of complications to their injuries in 2019 and 20 lost their lives as a result of Patek's actions including Patek taking his own life.
Starting point is 02:26:01 411 injured by gunfire, more trampled as the chaos broke out bringing the total injured to 867. Number two, Steven aside from stockpiling weapons and being moody, maybe being a really verbally abusive boyfriend, didn't show any classic signs of the instability that would lead one to think he was gonna go on a shooting spree. The most he seemed like just another dude in the 60s who loved video poker and Vegas is full of those guys. Most seem like just another dude in the 60s who loved video poker and Vegas is full of those guys. Number three, the city of Las Vegas, resilient as hell in the aftermath of this tragedy. In the days after the shooting, locals and tourists gathered at vigils or casinos determined
Starting point is 02:26:34 to go on living. After witnessing what must have been one of the worst things a human being can ever bear witness to. Number four, bump stocks, Stephen Patik outfitted many of these to his seminal automatic weapons to make them work a lot like automatic weapons. Many of you didn't have to pull the trigger every time you shot. You can pull the trigger once, empty a whole magazine.
Starting point is 02:26:51 These devices certainly helped him shoot as many people as he could that night in Vegas. Does that mean they should be illegal? I don't know. You know, I mean, you could argue that any gun of any kind can help you kill. It does, so should they all be illegal then? And maybe crossbows too, and knives, and chemicals.
Starting point is 02:27:08 You could buy the store and you could use to poison someone, et cetera. How far do you wanna take the line of thinking? And if you think they should definitely be legal, then why not legalize true automatic machine guns and maybe rocket launchers and tanks, tack choppers, fighter jets? Maybe private citizens should be able to access nukes.
Starting point is 02:27:28 Going extreme in either direction gets pretty silly at some point. So what do we do? I wish I knew. In a democracy, I guess we just keep going with whatever the majority of us feel is the right call to make. Number five, new info on November 7, 2018, roughly 13 months after the Las Vegas shooting. Another mass shooting occurred in in 1000 Oaks, California, North of LA, at the borderline bar in Grille, a country western bar frequented by college students. 13 people killed, including the perpetrator who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, and a police officer shot multiple times with the fatal wound accidentally being fired by another officer. One other person sustained a gunshot wound, 15 others injured in incidental causes. One other person sustained a gunshot wound, 15 others injured in incidental causes. Please identify the killer's 28-year-old Ian David Long, a US Marine Corps veteran. What does this have to do with today's topic? Well, some people who were at the 2017 Vegas
Starting point is 02:28:14 shooting were also at the 2018 Thousand Oaks shooting. How fucking crazy is that? And super tragically, telemoccas or phanos, 27 years old, a man who survived the Vega shooting, died in the thousand oak shooting. It's particularly ironic that after surviving the worst mass shooting in modern history, he went on to be killed in his own hometown, his father told the Ventura County star. That is like something out of a final destination movie, only real. Sometimes unfortunately life actually is like a movie, a terrible, terrible horror movie. Time, suck, tough, five takeaways. The 2017 Las Vegas mass shooting and the conspiracies that surround it has been sucked. I'm sure I'll get some fun emails from some conspiracy freaks. I look forward to them. Hopefully, hopefully one of them at least is as long as that thing I read.
Starting point is 02:29:06 Thanks to the Bad Magic Productions team, thanks to Bad Magic Queen, Lindsey Cummins, for running so much shit, the best teammates. Thanks to Reverend Dr. Jill Paisley for his production. Thanks to Biddle-Lifter for keeping the time stock app run and smooth, log in the art warlock Keith, createin' the merch at BadMagicMurch.com. And for running socials with Lizzy and Chantras Hernandez,
Starting point is 02:29:24 thanks to the All-Seeeing eyes moderating the clothes of the Curious Private Facebook page. Thanks to Beefstake and his mod squad running Discord. Thanks to producer Sophie Evans again for her initial research on this shooting. Next week we're gonna really lighten things up. We're gonna suck the long fabulous life of actress Betty White.
Starting point is 02:29:39 Our space lizards have decreed it. Betty White was taken from the world too soon. Not too long ago, at the young age of 99. Is it too soon for me White was taken from the world too soon. Not too long ago at the young age of 99. Is it too soon for me to talk about her being taken too soon in a sarcastic way? Before passing on December 31st, 2021, what did I say? That was weird, 2021. Betty White was still busy with an entertainment career that had begun in the 1940s. That's so wild. She was a legendary actress who starred in shows like Life with Elizabeth, the Mary Tyler Moore show, the Golden Girls, Hot and Cleveland, so many more. Betty worked for eight decades. And technically was active in nine different decades in the entertainment business.
Starting point is 02:30:17 Made a career for herself that most actors can only dream of. She appeared more than 30 movies over over 100 TV shows. One five, that's fucking nuts. One five M.E.'s, a Grammy, three American comedy awards, two screen actors, Guild Awards, in 2014 the Guinness Book of World Records, confirmed she had the longest career ever as a woman in TV. Betty's entire life, defied expectations. She built her career in a time that opposed working women, became a producer, founded her own successful production studio. Betty was one of the first and few female game show hosts.
Starting point is 02:30:47 She continued working well after the time that the industry determined was a woman's prime. Although Betty wasn't overly feminist, her career reinforced a quality between the sexes proved that women could star in shows and continue to be successful in their later years. She was a badass boss bitch. And me and Lucifina cannot wait to suck her next week. Right now let's suck on this week's Time Sucker Updates. I've been a heavy episode this week and we're gonna start with a heavy update.
Starting point is 02:31:21 Beautiful soul and sucker. Day should chambers right? I've been a long time fan of all your platforms and have forcefully recruited anyone I can to the bad magician team. Thank you. I just recently went to see you in Denver with my partner Jake. We are excited to come see you again when you come back to Salt Lake. That's very nice. Unfortunately, today I have some bad news report. I'm hoping you all can help me out. On the morning of February 8th, this year, my uncle Kade Clementson, sadly lost his battle with mental health and took his own life at the young age of 33. He lived a very full and amazing life. He had done more than most people can do in a lifetime within his
Starting point is 02:31:54 short 33 years. Over the last five give or take, he decided to use his own personal struggles with mental health and suicide to speak out and advocate for others who may be too afraid to get help for themselves. In 2019, he was amazing enough to have the courage to speak about his journey with mental health and suicide after United Nations. It brought tears to many eyes and he received a standing ovation. That was just the beginning for him. He began painting as a form of coping and battling with his inner demons. Then he decided he wanted to use his newfound skill to help with his determination to continue
Starting point is 02:32:23 to advocate for mental health awareness, especially in young children. He opened up an art studio in Salt Lake City called It's Not a Gallery, and began selling his art and other local Utah artist work to help raise money for mental health awareness. Shortly after, he was able to partner
Starting point is 02:32:39 with the Children Center, who have been helping infants, toddlers, and their families across Utah for 59 years, providing care for trauma, anxiety, depression, ADHD. Many other mental health concerns young children and their families may encounter. It is heartbreaking he cannot be here with me to ask you all to help us raise money for something that meant so much to him and so much to his family. I do not want all this hard work to die with him, and that's why I'm reaching out to
Starting point is 02:33:02 you today. If you could please use your platform to help continue to raise awareness and continue to donate to the Children's Center so we can all keep fighting for the help that young children and adults all deserve. If Kade had the opportunity to find an organization like this when he first started showing signs of depression at the young age of eight, he may still be here with us today. I'll leave a link to the video of his talk at the United Nations and other news platforms. He spoke on at the bottom of the email.
Starting point is 02:33:27 I will also leave his Instagram handle as well. On there, you can find a link to his obituary, all of his artwork, and an almost endless amount of comments from all the people he touched all around the world. He was a light that burned so fucking bright. He took life by the balls, lived with no fear. He has traveled all over the world, blessed so many people with his love and friendship. The world lost a true fucking treasure this month, and I'm determined to keep his legacy going.
Starting point is 02:33:48 Thank you so much for taking the time to read this. I know it was long, but I'm sure a shit-not-sar for the length, Kade deserves a novel and a movie about him. I'm just gifting you the short version for the sake of time. Feel free to use my name and my partner Jake's name, if you'd like, maybe there's enough people out there who listen that will recognize mine or Kade's name, and be able to continue to spread his amazing legacy.
Starting point is 02:34:06 And let's love positive energy to all of you. Love Dacia Chambers and Jake Davis. Here's how you pronounce her name is you, Moshmouth. I love you left phonetic pronunciation for Jake. At it's not a gallery. And I did watch the YouTube link. You sent me off his UN speech and holy shit, Dacia. It definitely focused my allergies.
Starting point is 02:34:26 And I'm leaving you all the links in the show notes for today's show. So all the links you sent, if anybody wants to access them, you just go to the time suck app and you can just download the show notes there and just click right on over on your phone. And yeah, this guy clearly was hurting inside, clearly cared so much about easy, not just his own pain, but the pain of others He was the opposite of Stephen Patik a soul who wanted to heal not to harm I hope we can push some traffic in that direction
Starting point is 02:34:53 I hope sharing Kate's story can help save others from their own demons For anyone listening on the edge right now, you know think about this Alex Jones is not adding his life anytime soon Are you really cool with letting Alex Jones out live you? Also more importantly, get help and get it now. You're worth it, you're worth it. Unless you're Alex Jones listening to the show, then I don't know, let's talk privately.
Starting point is 02:35:16 Now for the first of a few Amish updates, a super sucker Sam Henry has Amish blood run through his veins. And he writes, hey, suck Lord and Lucifer to play toy. Just listen to the Amish suck and had to say, wasn't surprised anything. I grew up 20 minutes from sugar Creek, Ohio, was around Amish. The majority of my life got to see a lot of the weird shit they do. To me, I personally see them as not necessarily a cult, but as a weird sect. They act all holy and divine. But I've
Starting point is 02:35:39 seen them smoke weed drink whiskey and cuss like a sailor. I have even no normal people who have joined the Amish just to get away from paying taxes, which doesn't seem like a good trade out at all. Another thing most people think they can't have moderate equipment, but I've seen them have cars and all sorts of electronics, but the catch is they can't use it. They have to have a non-Amish person use it for them. That's so ridiculous. Where I grew up, they mostly spoke Pennsylvania Dutch, my mom who lives in Germany for many years, knew enough German to understand what they were saying
Starting point is 02:36:05 when they were around and you'd be surprised about how much shit they talk. And how quick they shut up if he speak German to them. One last thing my grandpa was raised men and night and his mother was Amish. He grew up in North Dakota and when he turned 20, he joined the Navy to serve and be at NAMM. And in doing so, got shunned because it's against
Starting point is 02:36:21 their beliefs, but he put his country over his own family and religion, which made him a hero in my eyes. Sadly, he passed away four years ago, and as far as I know, his parents never spoke to him again. Kind of a dumb rule they have. Sorry for the long email. I hope it reaches you well. Loyal Mead, Second, Dummy, Sam. Sam, I included your message because of that Vietnam aspect of it. I mean, how crazy. You know, your son joins the Navy to fight for his country in a time of war, and you shun him for it. How could anyone think that that is God's will? What a shame, Spekable. Glad your grandpa got out. Sounds like he was an awesome meat sack and thanks for the message. And now a landkister,
Starting point is 02:36:58 area sucker. Find sack, dude named Kelly has kinds of Amish information to relate to us. He writes, Hey Dan, wow, a local suck episode. I live in the landkissed area and just wanted to share a few things that you did not mention, may not have seen in your research. First off, they may have a resting bitch face, but in all my personal interactions with them, the Amish could not be nicer people. This is coming from a guy with two full sleeves of the devil's ink. I would also say in the same breath, they are the not my most favorite group, the molestations The amush could not be nicer people. This is coming from a guy with two full sleeves of the devil's ink.
Starting point is 02:37:25 I would also say in the same breath, they are not my most favorite group. The molestations and rape in some families that you would mention animal abuse with livestock and puppy mills, sorry, bojangles. And on a lighter note, the horse shit all over the roadways. You definitely become disillusioned
Starting point is 02:37:38 with their seemingly peaceful and wholesome way of life. All of that negative doesn't stick out in your head when you're stuck driving behind a buggy with two sweet little, almost children waving their arms off at you to the back window, but onto the things now I actually emailed you for. I wanted to touch on what you said about Amish not having cell phones while it seems frowned upon in their religion. It has become more common for young members to have and hide them. One example of this is Pervin Mervin. Who is Pervin Mervin you ask? He received that moniker after being caught by a local guy who poses as young children and live streams meetups with perverts.
Starting point is 02:38:09 The best part of old Pervin Mervin's video is that he showed up in his horse and buggy with the twisted tea and a Miller light to meet the girl. I know this sounds too ridiculous to be true. I have a link for the video and local news articles in this email. The live streamrunner, Mr17540 deserves credit as police have charged many of these sick assholes after watching his videos. On to another sad story, and I watched that video, it's ridiculous. On to another sad story, you had mentioned the tragedy
Starting point is 02:38:34 of the Nickel Mine school shooting. Another more recent bout with tragedy for this community is the kidnapping and murder of 18 year old Linda Stolfus. Our Stolfus. Linda was kidnapped on her way home from church Father's Day June 21st, 2020. There were no new developments in the case until three weeks after the kidnapping when justo smoker was arrested and charged with a kidnapping in false imprisonment of Linda. FBI enhanced surveillance video in the area of the kidnapping. Actually,
Starting point is 02:38:58 they were able to watch the abduction happen on the video. I'm assuming they released information to the public on make model and plates of the vehicle. Police charge smoker after receiving tips seen as vehicle in different locations around the area, once with an omniscient woman in the front seat. On June 23rd, a business owner called police after noticing the car parked behind their shop. They said it was there two days earlier as well and a man matching smoker's description.
Starting point is 02:39:22 We're seeing walking around the building, peering into the windows. He backed the car up to the railroad tracks, the same spot, whereas parked a few days later. Cell phone records confirmed he was in the area around 2.30 to 3.30 pm, June 21st, in that same location, a pair of teen stockings and braw were found partially buried. Wasn't until December that he was formally charged in her murder in the spring of 2021 he took a plea deal, finally revealed where she was buried. After 10 months, the St stole swiss family received closure her body was found just behind smokers former workplace in Gap, Pennsylvania Please search this area before but do not find anything
Starting point is 02:39:53 They believe that she was originally killed buried to the location in ronks and moved to this workplace in Gap after being spooked Most just missed crossing to this pass and right in line with the school shooting the family for gave and prayed for justo to end this email on a letter note. I can't believe he didn't bring up the weird local names in Amish country blueball intercourse fertility Pennsylvania. Anyway, not sorry for the long email if you read this in the podcast. Could you please give a little blast out to hell with the devil to my wife Rachel and buddy Matt you bet. Matt, you bet. To hell with the devil. To newer members, this wonderful, a cult of ours.
Starting point is 02:40:30 Thanks a little bad magic team for keeping us laughing and learning a dude named Kelly. Well, dude named Kelly, wow, man, I watched that video you sent. Good on that local vigilante, catching predators. So weird to see a child predator with a dumb and dumber haircut, pulling up to do dirty shit in a literal horse and buggy in 2021.
Starting point is 02:40:47 It feels like part of a Reno 9-1-1 episode, more than it does real life. And can't believe that family forgave Justo do not think I could. Hope someone who feels like I do about shit like that is his cell mate in prison. Now strong as fucking amazing, meek sack. Megan Kennedy reminds me that sometimes it's good to get angry. Good to feel and express some righteous indignation. Megan writes, Dan, your homage suck is amazing just to keep this short.
Starting point is 02:41:10 I just wanna tell you that I love you. I wish you'd started this podcast years ago when I was enduring my own abuse at the hands of my closest neighbor's son, nine years my senior. I had no one I could go do, and like the Amish, didn't even understand what was happening, nor why I was bleeding afterwards. It happened a dozen or so times before he went to jail slash prison for some unrelated charge.
Starting point is 02:41:29 From much of my life I thought it was my fault that I've been raped even though I was 11 and 12 years old. Your own personal view on Pito P holes see what I did there. Pito plus assholes made me cry because I had heard if I had heard you back then I immediately would have felt like I wasn't alone and was not wrong in feeling what was happening was wrong. Your words about the p-dow and his beautiful daughters made me cry and I hope like crazy that listeners to agree with you. Not sorry for the length, keep up the awesome work, you legit a highlight, I look forward
Starting point is 02:41:54 to weekly exo, exo, well fuck yeah Megan, I love you too. And fuck that neighbor, I hope he's still in prison. I hope he's getting the new Mexico prison riot treatment. Probably not, but one can hope. Actually, I really hope that you have gotten the psychological carry deserve. You live an amazing and full life of happiness and joy and healthy sex and sunshine and I don't know Donuts. Do you like donuts? I love them. Old-fashioned glazed maple bars. They're myaves, chocolate long johns, also very great. But seriously, good on you for just writing this message. Maybe some other scared girl will hear it and take more strength from it than I could ever give them. So keeping wonderful. And now let's end on some absolute Amish insanity. Not sure if the end of this message happened, but someone told Super Sucker Jeremy that it did and Jeremy seemed to believe it. And if it did, fucking, wow, just, uh, wow. Jeremy writes, Dearest Suck Master General.
Starting point is 02:42:50 I'm a four plus year listener, first time emailer, listened to the Amish Live quain or terrible Rob Aksa memories range from humorous to cringy to appalling. I grew up in rural West Central Wisconsin, where there was notable Amish population near my hometown. My father ran logging crews and for a short period of time. He had an Amos guy song with him. He may have run out of farming work and needed an employment within a way from home business that like you described.
Starting point is 02:43:12 My dad always laughed at the guy's detailed knowledge of green made packers and Milwaukee Brewers news and information. Just come just from listing two games and sports shows on my dad's truck radio. He asked my dad things like, do you think Brett Farve will play against the Bears on Sunday? He's been diagnosed with two cracked ribs. He'd probably never even seen these teams,
Starting point is 02:43:27 ever play on a TV. When you talked about the homage, never wearing any clothing that may be considered gaudy reminding me that it reminded me that not only was their wardrobe basic, their aroma was too. In high school, I worked as a stalker and carry out in our Towns Grocery store. People would sometimes drive homage families to the store because they couldn't safely pack their buggy full of grocery bags.
Starting point is 02:43:48 So ridiculous. The homage do not use deodorant or perfume. Let me tell you, in July and August, with temperatures in the 90s and humidity in the 70s, 80s, you can smell them five miles away and they're thick, unbreatable clothes. Let's poor bastards. Finding this is a crazy part. A few years ago, I knew a guy who said he answered a wanted ad for the insemination of local, omniscient women for money. Yes, you read that correctly. Obviously, the community was attempting to get new jeans in their pool in order
Starting point is 02:44:13 to curtail some problems with inbreeding. This is fucking crazy if this is real. He said he and a college friend who were strapped for cash went to an omniscience residence, looked over by elders, after getting approval, they walked them into a dark barn. An Amish woman in her child-bearing years was been over a table. Fuckin' what? The back of her dress was raised and he guided them to walk up behind her. Looking up, he saw maybe seven white hair and buried at elders standing beside, standing side by side with the arms crossed, observing the X in the stifling-hop building. At this point, he backed off quickly exited with his friend who would have been next up. I'm actually I actually I'm sorry for the long
Starting point is 02:44:48 Yeah, evil electronic male that will guarantee my damnation feel free to trim it down if necessary. My wife Heather and I have tickets to see you in Chicago and June Can I wait for the show keep on sucking Jeremy? What the fuck Jeremy? That sounds more like some fetish porn than real life. I kept waiting for you to say just kidding That's get this get the fuck out here. There's ridiculous. I don't know though super shit super weird shit does happen in real life We've covered a lot of it right dolphin sex, you know, we talked about that Thanks for sharing that craziness. I Feel so bad for that lady net bar and I was fucking so weird. I please guy let that not be true And let's get out of this week's time sucker updates
Starting point is 02:45:25 Thanks time suckers. I need a net please guy let that not be true. And let's get out of this week's Time Sucker updates. You're gonna be out. You're gonna be out. Thanks, Time Suckers. I need a net. We all did. Thanks again for listening to another Bad Magic Productions podcast, Meet SX. 285 straight weeks of suck.
Starting point is 02:45:38 How crazy is that? Over 300 sucks in the feed and total. Well over 600 hours of suckage. I appreciate you still sticking around and continuing to tell your friends the suck continues to grow. Don't fuck a shooting stranger this week in a mysterious and bloody exit. Alex Jones has already sold enough brain vitamins. Maybe get outside, sit by the lake, I don't know, just relax. Maybe jerk off, rub one out, if you're feeling too worked up.
Starting point is 02:46:02 Maybe just keep on sucking. And magic productions. Same face, different mask. In the years before the Templars arrived, and a force from France, Robert the Bruce's campaign, the English had been pretty disastrous. I mean, that really plays into the, the tutonic order. There was a, there was a Visegoth Chateau in France, and Alchemy is a transformation of base man, woman, and pure spirit, and that's how the lizards, like, they'll distill you, stick with me. The Babylonian brotherhood, Baphomet. That's how, that's how the, the Knights
Starting point is 02:46:44 Templar, they, they get into the, the how the Knights temple, they get into the crown chakra, the third eye chakra, the third eye chakra, the heart chakra. And the base chakra, all of a sudden, is a root chakra, will sometimes tie them to a bottom in the illustration. And that's how he gets involved. And they drink the blood, you drink the chrome,
Starting point is 02:46:58 and that's how they get into the Stephen Patex. Part of what they found, they didn't talk about was the, the dream chrome they found. It is, he had bottles, he had, uh, he had a, uh, he had a camel, he had a camel camel pack, uh, a dreamcrum, they gave him more strength to shoot. It's worth the emphasizing again that the Satanist relationship with the female energy is important to all of this, and that's, that's how you get the reptilians, they live under the Vegas,
Starting point is 02:47:20 they live, stick to reading Roy, they have a lot of tires, and then they didn't, and want to attack them. Where's that coming from? Well, that's tied to, my blood sugar is low. And I get sleepy sometimes. And sometimes I feel like just, maybe I should, maybe I should just lay down and kind of like stop talking for a second. But if I talk too slow, the matrix gets realigned
Starting point is 02:47:40 and I can't break this spell. And that's when the soul gets split into the new and the old. And that's when the soul gets split into the new and the old, and that's when the priori of sign gets worked in the Mona Lisa. And I have some snacks. I said, if I could just have some Doritos, I can just keep going.
Starting point is 02:47:56 I'm winding down, I'm tired. you

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