Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 286 - Betty White: Much More Than a Golden Girl

Episode Date: March 7, 2022

On December 31st, 2021, Hollywood legend and literally the most well-liked living person in America at one point, Betty White, passed away in her home in Brentwood, California. Even though she was 99 ...years old, it still felt like she was taken too soon. She was still so very much alive and looking forward to celebrating her 100th birthday in a little over two weeks. Most now seem to remember her from The Golden Girls, or The Mary Tyler Moore Show, or Hot in Cleveland. Or maybe that 2010 Snickers Super Bowl commercial. But by the time The Mary Tyler Moore Show debuted in 1970, she had already been regularly appearing on TV for over twenty years. She'd starred in and produced one of America's very first sitcoms - Life With Elizabeth - in the early 1950's. She'd had her own variety show, The Betty White Show. She'd starred in other sitcoms, and was a regular guest on dozens of games shows, late night talk shows, variety shows, etc. She's starred in movies. And she had an amazing life outside of entertainment. Her love story with third husband Allen Ludden reads like a movie script, but it was very real. Such an inspiring show today! I hope it makes you feel as good hearing it as it did for me when I recorded it. Hail Nimrod, everyone! The Bad Magic Charity of the month is New Orleans Community Fridges (amount tbd) will be this months recipient of the Bad Magic Donation! Such a cool charity, providing free food and drink to those who are food insecure. Visit nolacommunityfridges.org for more info!Watch the Suck on YouTube: https://youtu.be/8paLSutNq58Merch - https://badmagicmerch.com/  Discord! https://discord.gg/tqzH89vWant to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever happens to be our most current page :)For all merch related questions/problems: store@badmagicproductions.com (copy and paste)Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcastWanna become a Space Lizard?  Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcastSign up through Patreon and for $5 a month you get to listen to the Secret Suck, which will drop Thursdays at Noon, PST. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. You get to vote on two Monday topics each month via the app. And you get the download link for my new comedy album, Feel the Heat. Check the Patreon posts to find out how to download the new album and take advantage of other benefits.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Betty White, legend and until very recently a living legend maintained an often weekly if not daily place in American homes and hearts from the 1940s all the way until her death in 2021. She was a legendary actress who starred in shows like Life with Elizabeth, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, The Golden Girls, Hot and Cleveland, so much more. Primarily a comedic actress, she would also kill it in a drama and she was a favorite guest of many a late night talk show host and many a game show host and she worked for eight decades, eight decades. She built a maintained and unparalleled entertainment career. Betty won five Emmys, a Grammy, three American comedy awards, two screen actors, Guild Awards, and took home God knows how many other trophies. In 2014, the Guinness Book of World Records confirmed she had the longest career ever as a woman in television, and she worked full-time for several years after that recognition. And she never stopped loving to work.
Starting point is 00:00:56 She was passionate about entertainment until the end. She felt excitement and joy each day she showed up to work. From humble beginnings, on radio shows, to starring in movies and TV shows Betty accomplished what she did not through luck but through hard work and perseverance. She wasn't just some sweet little lady. Well she wasn't you know only a sweet little lady. She was pretty damn sweet but she was also pitiful. She was tenacious. She turned down marriage proposals left and right. Walked away from two marriages when guys tried to get in the way of her career.
Starting point is 00:01:26 You were cool with the ride, the Betty was on, or you were off that ride. She wasn't going to let anyone or any things stop her from making a career in the television industry. Betty is an inspiring example to all of us about how hard work and determination pays off. She experienced multiple failures and heart breaks. She even believed at one point that she would never work again, but she always picked herself back up and kept grinding. And it usually led to bigger and better things. Betty's entire life defied expectations. She built her career during a time when the culture around her strongly opposed working women. Despite that, she became
Starting point is 00:01:58 a producer, founded her own successful production studio. She became one of the first and few female game show hosts. She continued working well after the time that the industry determined was a woman's prime. In addition to being hardworking, it helped that Betty was really, really fucking funny, a master of the comedic acting craft. The world mourned the loss of Betty on December 31, 2021. She lived a life that so many people admired and was loved by millions 99 years still didn't seem like enough. We wanted more Betty and today you'll get some more Today we'll discuss the world of Betty White beginning when TV was in its fledgling What the hell are we supposed to do with this magic talking box days? We'll cover her remarkable life her career and so much more in today's she what I knew I like to but now I fucking lover
Starting point is 00:02:44 Shobiz biography edition of time suck. This is Michael McDonald and you're listening to time suck. You listening to time suck. Happy Monday, meat sacks. Welcome to the Cult of the Curious. I'm Dan Cummins, Suck Nasty, the Master Sucker, former Betty White, Pull Boy, current Deep State puppet, Crisis Actor, Acting Coach, and you are listening to Time Suck. Hail Nimron, Hail Zafina, Praise Bojangles, and Glory be a triple M. May the
Starting point is 00:03:20 God's the Suck first. Protect me. Last week's episode, Shitting on Crisis Actor Conspiracies, is getting too many downloads. Our most May the gods of the suck first protect me last week's episode shit on crisis actor conspiracies Getting too many downloads our most downloaded episode in the first few days release ever and now I'm nervous I might have just had my name added to some more fuck that guy as part of the illuminati lists extra people thinking I'm some an T for tear cell leader or something so that's one Speaking of fuck that guy real real quick, fuck Putin. My heart is with the Ukrainian people, as is the heart of anyone who has a heart. I feel terrible, obviously, for the people of Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:03:52 We've already announced, given to a non-Ukrainian charity for March, weeks ago, recording scared of death in advance. So they won't be the bad-matched charity this month, but they will be next month. Feel better for the people of Russia too. I don't think most of them like Putin any more than the rest of the world does. He's a ruthless tyrant, death to tyrants, death to Putin. I truly hope that motherfuckers taken out by one of his own for what he's doing, what he's done, and that his death is ideally prolonged and painful.
Starting point is 00:04:19 We'll have to suck his terrible life one day. You know, if you die soon, you know wraps it up We can do that soon. So if anybody wants to do this favor, you know, you can kill him I'll be glued to my newsfeed like most of you I imagine hoping for miracles in the coming days weeks months and hopefully not years Uh, couple quick announcements and then some nice fun Escapism today yay Escapism from time to time right? I'll announce a bad magic charity for March next week,
Starting point is 00:04:46 too many other announcements today. Hoping I had fun performing for the first time in Oklahoma City this past weekend at the Bricktown Comedy Club. I'm guessing I did. So, okay, thanks in advance. Is there record this? I got six shows coming up in Atlanta
Starting point is 00:05:00 and the punchline or at the punchline. And in it, I'll be in it. March 17th to 19th, intimate club, three or four shows already sold out as I record this. So if you're going to come, you know, get those tickets, comedy zone and Charlotte coming up after that March 24, the 26th, fun room, hoping we can fill it up for five shows. It's a big room.
Starting point is 00:05:19 More dates at Dancomans.tv, special thanks to Chicago and Salt Lake City show Show on June 11th at Tally Hall. Sold out in Chicago, so we added a second. It should be added by the time this comes up. Then added a show in Salt Lake City in May, because the other one we added sold out, so thank you. So we're doing the seventh now. A quick reminder that hot wet,
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Starting point is 00:07:00 And now let's break down some Betty Motherfuckin' White. Gonna be a pretty straightforward structure to the show today. Gonna intro her a little further, establish her very historic connection with the entertainment medium of television, then lay down a summary of the history of the development of television, then march to the timeline of Betty's wonderful and inspiring life. A lot of comedy in there before recapping and diving into a bunch of updates revolving around primarily last week's 2017 Las Vegas shooting episode. So here we go Betty White had a career in television that will truly never be replicated. It actually can't be she literally grew up
Starting point is 00:07:43 With the formation of the television industry and was one of the very first women to become a celebrity thanks to television. TV will never be the same as it was once was when Betty was one of its first stars. TV just doesn't have the clout now as it did during the early days of Betty's career. You know, the medium just very diluted now. Way more shows. For numerous years of Betty's working career in the US, there were only a handful of channels, just four. Just four channels for a number of years,
Starting point is 00:08:09 and those four channels didn't even broadcast 24 hours a day. They didn't have enough programs to fill a time. They were dark throughout the night. They were dark for parts of the day as well. They were not competing against, you know, 12 and 18 screen synoplexes for eyeballs. More importantly, they were not competing against the entirety of the internet or gaming consoles. In 2019 alone, 532 different original scripted television
Starting point is 00:08:32 series were released in the US between cable and streaming platforms. And that doesn't include reality shows, docuseries, and game shows. Definitely doesn't include all the extra films that are produced now. That doesn't count the backlog of essentially every show ever made that you can access now between YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, HBO Max, etc.
Starting point is 00:08:53 As a 2018, you can watch over 1500 different TV series just on Netflix alone. There is so much fucking content out there with more and more countries adding programs to the content C. I'm currently watching a German series called dark right now you can spend every waking minute of every day and not get much sleep watching nothing but new episodes of scripted shows and you could do that for the rest of your life and never run out of programming back when Betty White first appeared weekly on TV she was one of a very small group of people showing up in people's living rooms right odds were literally anyone who had a TV and watched it regularly in the 1940s or 1950s.
Starting point is 00:09:30 They watched Betty White and quite a bit. Like, how wild is that? How wild is it for someone who was still working in TV just a year or two ago to be on TV all the time in the 1940s and 50s? Betty White was a true TV pioneer. And I say, I saw 1940s, 1949. I'll get to that timeline. She came in at the end of the 40s. I was giving her a little bit too much time there. TV as we know, it didn't even exist at the time of the birth of my favorite golden girl. It's a day show, wrote in their honorary article on Betty, Whites ascension in a medium
Starting point is 00:10:01 that didn't exist at the time of her birth. Parallels, the role of a small small screen would wind up having on the world. According to this Smithsonian National Museum of American History Curator, Ryan Lintelman, the early years of broadcast television were full of innovation as American entertainers and producers adapted existing radio and stage formats to the new medium. And Betty was a fantastic innovator as you'll find out today. I had no idea she had so much, or that she worked so much,
Starting point is 00:10:28 not just like long-jevoting in terms of years, but like she was working a lot of hours for a lot of different weeks for a lot of those years. She blazed such a trail as opposed to following the trails of those who had worked ahead of her. The trails were just being cleared and carved when she started in TV. The first movie was made in 1878,
Starting point is 00:10:45 but not really a movie, not at all actually. A few seconds of a horse galloping. That's it. A variety of still images captured by numerous cameras and then able to be played back to show motion. More like the equivalent of drawing little stick figures in the bottom corner of a notebook and then flipping the pages
Starting point is 00:11:05 and seeing it move. On October 14th, 1888, a French artist and inventor, Louis Le Prince filmed 1.66 seconds of his family in motion and this quote unquote film would become known as the Round Hey Gardensy. Garden scene. Very different than a garden scene, I don't know what that is. I wasn't until 1927 that the first talk he was shown in theaters. A feature length movie with both a synchronized recorded music score as well as limp, lip, synchronous singing and speech in several isolated sequences.
Starting point is 00:11:35 And Betty was five years old when it came out. Jumping ahead to 1939, classic movies like The Wizard of Oz and Gone with the Wind or Now Sh shown in theaters. And that same year Betty made her first debut on the small screen. She later wrote in her 2010 autobiography, Here we go again, my life in television. Television was a fledgling barely out of the nest when I began taking my first stumbling professional steps. Since we were both beginners, we started hanging out together and we have more or less stuck with each other ever since
Starting point is 00:12:06 And the beginning TV was highly experimental way more so than I realized before this week production companies tried out all sorts of formats Many that would never work today to see what could get and hold an audience's attention And this worked out well for Betty and her career because she was a versatile uniquely talented We'll into try almost anything, able to improv, host, model, sing, be funny, be dramatic, play the lead, play background, keep track of some fucking bear cubs in between takes, whatever. Not kidding about the bears. She wasn't pigeonholed in typecast because that really wasn't being done yet.
Starting point is 00:12:42 If you wanted to keep working on TV when it was getting started, you had to be versatile, working different genres. And that allowed Betty to figure out what she was best at and then find her niche later. Also helped a young hard working ambitious hustler have some creative control
Starting point is 00:12:57 and test out new show ideas herself. Be dog, as her friends called her, worked in all the popular genres every day. sitcoms, variety shows, shows game shows lengthy sitcoms with long range plots and characters and Of course no one called her B dog, but for the first 20 years of her TV career White was actually her middle name. I didn't know that until this week Her full stage name was Betty white power. She picked power because obviously it sounds powerful
Starting point is 00:13:24 And she needed to come across, you know, it was powerful in a very male dominated profession. And Mrs. White Power was a force to be wrecking with. People used to love White Power. A lot of White Power fans and TV's early days, but then that turn was co-opted by White supremacists and she had to move away from White Power and just be White. And everybody knows I'm full of shit about Betty White Power, right? That's so fucking funny to me for some reason. If for 20 years before that term was what it is now, it was introduced as Betty White Power. Tonight on the Alamorgon Show, we have special guest Betty White Power singing Dixie Land. No, nothing like that's in her past.
Starting point is 00:14:00 But I can find. When Betty really got started professionally in TV, the genre of American TV sitcoms was less than three years old. Britain had the very first one, 1946. Pin writes progress. About a store proprietors, many misadventures. 10 episodes broadcast live, back before the ability to record those episodes existed. So we don't have a record of it, just the way they broadcast things initially.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I didn't know that was a thing. No reruns. Like if you missed an episode, you missed it forever. True must see TV was more like a play broadcast into a bunch of people's homes. Mary Kay and Johnny, the first American sitcom was debuted on November 18, 1947. Senator Young married couple in New York, real life married couple, Johnny and Mary K. Sterns. It was 15 scripted minutes a week, performed live, first studio audience. If you blew your line, stayed blown forever. Most of the first sitcoms and variety shows
Starting point is 00:14:55 were existing radio shows adapted for TV. The 1950s are the first true hit shows that would later be able to go into syndication like I Love Lucy which debuted in 1951. That was the first sitcom actually filmed in front of a live TV audience, making replay possible. I love Lucy was also the first to use a multi camera format, you know, and one of the first to be produced in Hollywood instead of in New York. For every hit show like I love Lucy, there was dozens of forgettable ones. Most actors, according to one critic, were generally considered amateurs, playing at home movies.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Sounds like a lot of fun. All the most talented writers and producers were still on Broadway. TV producers in the early days were usually new writers, trying to make it big in a new medium. It was very wild west, kind of like the podcast industry's been recently. Betty worked with a lot of those new writers who would then work again and again with her as her career marched on decade after decade. Betty White would continue starring on TV after the age of 40, which back then was generally considered the end of a woman's career. Ah, the good old days. Well, life made sense, right? JK gosh
Starting point is 00:15:58 dang. No, that's not true. This would be an additional file to complain. She continued earning Lee rolls after the age of 50 and then after 60, 70, 80, and even after the age of 90. I love it. Betty's Rolls later in her career emphasized or worked with her age instead of downplaying it. As Betty aged, she began showing people a new edge to her personality, witty humor, some dirtier jokes, some darker jokes,
Starting point is 00:16:22 and America loved her more than ever. And now, a woman having a variety of roles offered to her and her quote unquote senior years is becoming more and more common Right seven-year-old actress Lisa Emory who plays darling, Snell and Ozark great show great performance She has a pretty sexual role in that series Lily Tomlin Jane Fonda plays sexually active women on Netflix is Gracie and Frankie, Tomlin's 82, Fonda is 79, and Betty White Power, come on! No, she helped change the roles that were deemed acceptable for women to play on TV tremendously.
Starting point is 00:16:54 For example, a TV historian, PBS noted of her role in life with Elizabeth, a sitcom Betty started from 1953 to 1955, White brought in the typical range and role of the Ditsy Housewife character with the winking self-awareness and pro-feminist irreverence. Get it with the winning smile, an easy charm and impeccable comic timing that made her a perfect fit for the medium. She was also a quietly versatile comedic actor capable of making subtle changes in her voice and mannerisms without seeming to break a sweat or lose her lightness of touch.
Starting point is 00:17:25 So you can play slightly sweet, calculatedly, cloying, likably, loopy, or sometimes all of the above. The Mary Tyler Moore show, which is a show that Betty co-starred in, of course, was a story about a woman working in a male-dominated world. The show reflected Betty's career in a way. She made a name for herself by herself in the male dominated world of TV production. Betty's career in life promoted equality between men and women's, misdynia and magazine wrote about Betty saying, why it was a groundbreaking television comedian bringing the inner lives of American women to the forefront in popular sitcoms across
Starting point is 00:17:57 seven decades. That's such a crazy timeline. She paved the way for female comedians to express themselves fully tackle unexpected roles as well as take on production roles as she did beginning in the early 50s. Alright, enough of a second Betty's dick for a second. Let's take a closer look now to television industry to establish the background for Betty's career followed by the timeline of her life from beginning to end. As previously mentioned, Betty grew up with the TV industry. So let's briefly go over the history of TV, as well as big milestones in industry.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Who the fuck invented the TV? Martin Rodsdale, Bismarck, North Dakota, 1923. Martin Owen and Operator, the small cities, first electronics for pear shop, which basically meant he worked almost exclusively on radios for the roughly 8,000 people living there at the time. And he decided rather than sell radios manufactured
Starting point is 00:18:46 by some big company for a small profit, what if he made his own radio? So he did. And when he one day was tinkin' around with adding some reflective glass for aesthetics, he caught movement in the glass. The receiver was displaying the audio waveforms. Now he knew video could be transmitted through the air,
Starting point is 00:19:02 so adapting a movie camera by incorporating large quantities of quartz into its iris, adding selenium, magnesium transistors, rewiring its focusing mechanism with some copper tubing and more mirrors. He was able to have his wife move around in front of this contraption, see her movements in the first TV he'd made, and set up a few rooms away. He was able to trick her into believing that he had to be naked, because the quartz couldn't transmit fabric and he thought to himself, I bet I could get people to pay to watch this shit. And I'm going to try and lie less.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Often going forward. There's no Martin Rothdale. No individual person can be credited, credited actually with inventing television. Much of what I just said was gibberish by the way as well. Not only just alive, but just pure nonsense. I just picked a bunch of random words and started going together. Many scientists and engineers made small contributions that led to modern television sets. Start way back in the 1830s.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Alright, the technology that would be used. Samuel Morse developed a telegraph, which allowed written communication across wires that in 1876, many years later, Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone, which allowed the human voice to travel long distances over these wires. Both men speculated about the possibility of transmitting images the same way. How the fuck did anyone figure out how to communicate
Starting point is 00:20:13 across distances to any method other than yelling? It boggles my mind, right? Like when you're starting from scratch with that tech, like how do you ever think you can do that? Thank God for scientists. On 1884, Paul Nipkow, German researcher, invented a system to send images over wires with spinning discs, which he called the electric telescope.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Very impractical to send an image long distance, because it required a lot of machinery, but a great step toward being able to do that. And I thought it was interesting to think about how oftentimes the most incredible inventions in the history of humanity started off as impractical novelties. like look up pics and videos of the first airplanes if i want to see one of those death traps they don't stay up in the air for a few seconds i might have easily thought probably would have easily thought what a complete waste of time
Starting point is 00:20:57 fucking stupid you're wasting your life and many of the early prototype inventors lost money on aviation but those who followed them would change the world in a dramatic way. You know, many dramatic ways. They changed the way, you know, international business could be conducted, how wars were fought, they'd make tourism economies possible for many nations, open up space, exploration, and on and on and on.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Similarly, with TV, we wouldn't be watching high-definition CGI futuristic programming on our phones Watching for some remote area linked up to Wi-Fi beamed down from satellites. No less than some instances If you if you weren't for early contributors like the Paul Nipkowski of the world Right the first public station TV station in the world launched in 1934 in Berlin was named in his honor But he didn't make a dime in the TV biz his patent expired by the time anyone got serious about using what he'd come up with to help build the first TVs. In the early 1900s Russian physicist Boris Rossin and Scottish engineer Alan Archibald Campbell Swinton. Fucking easy on the extra names buddy. How about Al Swinton? Work independently to improve the
Starting point is 00:22:00 Nipcow system. Swinton had an article published in the June 18 1908 issue of nature called Distant Electric Vision. He wrote and kudos to anyone listing who actually truly understands what the fuck he was talking about here. This part of the problem of obtaining Distant Electric Vision can probably be solved by the employment of two beams of cathode rays, one at the transmitting and one at the receiving station. Synchronously deflected by the varying fields of two electromagnets placed at right angles to one another and energized by two alternating electric currents of widely different frequencies, so that the moving extremities of the two beams are caused to sweep simultaneously over
Starting point is 00:22:41 the whole of the required surface within the one-t tenth of a second necessary to take advantage of visual persistence. Indeed, so far as the receiving apparatus is concerned, the moving cathode beam has only to be arranged to impinge on a suitably sensitive fluorescent screen and given suitable variations in its intensity to obtain the desired result. Yeah, exactly. That's how you obtain the desired results. You fucking idiots. You just arrange the cathode beam with the right amount of fluorescent screen stuff and you magnetize fucking laser guns and the cathode death ray activates fucking TV robots in the box. Easy, peasy, German
Starting point is 00:23:23 physicist. Karl Braun had invented cathodic ray tubes, an important component of early TVs, and Swinton system used them. And the earliest all electronic TV system was built. Engineer Vladimir Zwurkin worked as Rossine's assistant. And in 1923, he was employed by the Westinghouse electronic corporation, founded in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in 1886. And while there, the Zwurkin applied for a patent for his iconoscope, which used cathode ray tubes to transmit images.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Then in 1927 when Betty White was five years old, Scottish engineer John Beard gave the first demonstration of a television before 50 scientists in London. And he formed the Beard television development company. In 1928, he completed the first transatlantic television transmission between London and New York and the first transmission to a ship in the Atlantic. Bebeard also credited with the first demonstration of color and stereoscopic TV, which is basically 3D. 1929's work in demonstrating his system and convention of radio engineers, David Sarnoff,
Starting point is 00:24:20 executive of Radio Corporation America, RCA, was present, Hardsworth, and to develop an improved TV tech for his company. Meanwhile, American adventure, Filo Farmsworth, who have been working on his own system of vacuum tube that dissected images into lines, transmitted the lines, and turned them into images. At the age of 21 and 1927, while living in the little town of Rigby Idaho, whoo! Farmsworth successfully transferred the first televised image What was it a simple line a note to his buddy the damn thing works He then got into a legal battle with rca who claimed that his workings 1923 patent took priority over Farne's worth inventions
Starting point is 00:25:00 Uh, he'd eventually win a legal battle in 1938 getting rca to pay a million bucks And we can do a full suck on his life. He did all kinds of shit. The device he helped invent became incredibly culturally significant information and entertainment transmitted and digested in such a new way that continues to engross so many of us so thoroughly today. TV was originally regarded as just radio with pictures, but it would ultimately turn into something that was so much more. According to Britannica, radio in its early days was perceived as a technological wonder,
Starting point is 00:25:30 rather than a medium of cultural, cultural significance. The public quickly adjusted the radio broadcasting and either enjoyed its many programs or turned them off. Television, however, prompted a tendency to criticize and evaluate rather than a simple on-off response. It was revolutionary to both see and hear events as they were happening. Even if you were hundreds or thousands of miles away, crowds gathered on sidewalks in front of stores to watch TV, taverns with TV, saw a surge in business. Sporting events went from tens of thousands of
Starting point is 00:26:00 viewers to stadiums to millions across the country. Imagine being the first person in your town or city to open up a sports bar. What a fucking huge advantage you would have. I've had some people got rich just from being the first people to put TVs in their businesses. TV began to influence culture, parents, children, schools, churches in the government. People became more and more involved in current events that weren't just happening in their neighborhood or town because they could see them as they were happening. Betty White wrote in her 1995 autobiography, 50 years ago when television made its entrance, no one possibly could have forced seen what impact it would have. For broadcasters at the moment, the preoccupying gamble was whether or
Starting point is 00:26:38 not to commit big bucks for innovative equipment on the chance that the public would latch on. Would there be enough homes with television receivers to make producing shows worthwhile? Conversely, those at home had to decide if they could justify investing in an expensive major appliance to receive what few telecasts were currently available. Many established performers from other venues found the new medium made to order. Like radio would offer a chance to go to the audience instead of the other way around. Ironically, the more people stayed home, the larger the audience became. Let's now take a look at a brief timeline of television milestones before jumping into
Starting point is 00:27:13 a Betty White Power's life. So hard not to keep saying that. To not keep saying it. A pretty time-sack timeline. Timeline now. In 1927, Fylo Farnsworth, right, who we just met, patented the Dicecter tube, which would become a major component of the all electronic television. September 11, 1928, first TV drama, The Queen's Messenger broadcast from connected the New
Starting point is 00:27:33 York TV station WGY. 1929, Vladimir's work in, right, American scientists born in Russia, demonstrates the first practical electronic system for the transmission and reception of images. 1934, the Communications Act, brought on the era of government radio regulation. I'm sorry, brought on the era of government regulation of American airwaves. Radio stations were ordered to operate in the public interest, convenience and necessity. The FCC, the Federal Communications Commission was charged with enforcing this act. And this was soon applied to commercial TV stations as well.
Starting point is 00:28:06 So glad that their pure tanical rules don't apply to podcasting. And that the FCC can suck my dick. But anyway, 1939, RSA's National Broadcasting Company, NBC, I've heard of it, begins regular telecasts from New York City. On April 30th of that year, with this broadcast of the opening ceremonies of the New York World Fair, NBC began a regular television service and by 1951, it would establish a coast-to-coast television network. It's crazy. It was recent as 1951. It would have very likely established one years earlier, but Hitler. World War II led to U.S. tech manufacturers, you know, prioritizing military tech over entertainment. World War II led to a.S. tech manufacturers, you know, prioritizing military tech over entertainment.
Starting point is 00:28:45 World War II led to a huge decrease in commercial television productivity, and then the post-war era would mark the true beginning of the modern TV industry. In 1947, NBC began broadcasting two famous programs, Howdy Duty, and Meet the Press. NBC's America's oldest media network, starting off as a radio network back in 1926. From 1947 to 1948, NBC and CBS originally Columbia Broadcasting System began 15-minute national newscasts. Camel News, Caravan, with John Cameron Swazie on NBC, and television news with Douglas Edwards on CBS.
Starting point is 00:29:21 CBS, like NBC, started off as a radio network. One year later, 1927. A.B.s making sure that I'm saying that right now. Check myself real quick. I thought it was the other way around. I was certain. Come on. Oh, okay, yep, that's right. Alright, alright.
Starting point is 00:29:42 ABC, the American Broadcasting Company, the third of America's Big Three, also started off in radio, much later in 1943. They'd break into TV in 1948. Also in 1948, Variety Show, Texaco Star Theatre, made its TV debut on NBC, and Toast of the Town.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Another Variety Show premiered on CBS. Texaco Star Theatre made Milton Burrell, more famous than radio already had, gave him the nickname of Mr. Television. Toast to the town was renamed the Ed Sullivan Show and made Ed Sullivan a household name. Burrell Show would run until 1956. Sullivan Show aired every Sunday night from 8 to 9 pm Eastern time until its cancellation in 1971.
Starting point is 00:30:20 The Ed Sullivan Show, oh man, wildly culturally influential, Ed introduced the fucking Beatles to America. That show launched Elvis Presley into Heartthrob status. It introduced and or brought into American homes, CCR, Janice Joplin, the Rolling Stones, Stevie Wonder, the Jackson Five, the Beach Boys, the Supremes, the Doors, so many other legendary musicians. Bob Dylan was supposed to make his first national appearance on the Ed Sullivan show But refused to alter his lyrics of a song he was gonna sing in any way to appease producers
Starting point is 00:30:51 Talking John Birch paranoid blues and he walked the fuck out. So there's Bob Dylan Muppets made their first TV appearance on the Ed Sullivan show Milton Burle he was the male counterpart to Betty White in some ways. He worked in showbiz for so many years, playing a small role in a 1914 silent film, the perils of Pauline when he was just six years old, and he would live until the age of 93, and he would act until the age of 91. I actually got a Milton Burrell joke book as a gift from my ex-wife's grandparents when I just started out in stand-up comedy. Now am I not, am I style? But the guy did have just started out in stand-up comedy. Now, am I not on my style?
Starting point is 00:31:25 But the guy did have a lot of great one-liners. Our committee is a group that keeps minutes and loses hours. What is this? An audience or an oil painting? Money can't buy your happiness, but it helps you look for it in a lot more places. One more. What's the difference between jam and marmalade? You can't marmalade your cock up someone's ass.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Oh, funny, it's ass. Ho ho! Funny, it's funny. If you don't like that, I hope a horse, hate fucks your family to death. Ho ho! Hey, kid about the last one. That was in Sandy. I wish that was a joke that Milton Burl had told a long time ago,
Starting point is 00:31:56 right after he had a stroke or something, but I made it up. When Burl and White and Sullivan were on TV during those first TV years, or handful of others, oftentimes no one was on TV, until the fall of 1948, not uncommon to turn on TV and find it to black screen. Because networks weren't broadcasting any programs. Prime time was 8 to 11 pm Eastern time. It was rare for networks to fill the rest of the day's time slots. TV sales were low because the TV cost about 400 bucks at the time equivalent in purchasing
Starting point is 00:32:24 power to a close to five grand today 4,700 roughly by the fall of 1948 almost all the prime time slots were taken up by ABC CBS NBC and the fourth of The early networks the Dumont TV network. Yes, the forgotten Dumont TV network launched just before ABC did in 1942 So forgotten Dumont TV network. Launched just before ABC did in 1942, would last until 1965 before Goombaelia. It launched that first American sitcom, Mary Kay and Johnny. In 1949, Steers Robux sent out their first catalogs offering televisions.
Starting point is 00:32:55 1951, I love Lucy Premier, Lucy O'Ball became televisions first, female, excuse me, superstar. She and Betty White became great friends in the 50s and would remain friends until Lucy passed away. 1952 here at now, a and Betty White became great friends in the 50s and would remain friends until Lucy passed away. 1952, here at Now, a successful radio program became the TV program. See it now. NBC introduced the today show, and that's been running ever since. One of America's longest running TV programs, the longest running is NBC's Meet the Press,
Starting point is 00:33:20 running since 1947, began as a radio show in 1945. 1953, a TV guide hit news stands by this point 53% of American households owned a TV. In April of 1954, court made its way into a TV with the broad castings of the McCarthy hearings live and in their entirety. By 1955, the game show craze was in full swing. Americans were obsessed with shows like the $64,000 question. Can do high finance and nothing but the truth. 1955, 56th marked the height of the Western era. Why at URP, tails of the Texas Rangers, Frontier, adventures of Jim Buie and Gunsmoke. Among Love Gunsmoke, I watched it too, it was a great show.
Starting point is 00:34:04 1940s to 1960s considered the golden age of TV and Betty White Power. Betty White, we're constantly in that era. I'm a child. Betty White really did work here. A comedy's dramas were big in the 50s, wall variety shows, game shows were more popular in the 60s. 1960s featured the first televised presidential debate, JFK, Richard Nixon, many credit television with turning the vote in Kennedy's direction.
Starting point is 00:34:27 What a shame. Because if Nixon were to one, maybe he could have gotten shot in Dallas and then way more drugs would be legal. And Kennedy could have maybe won the next election. Hard for me not to shit on Nixon, whenever he comes up in these episodes. By 1960, 90% of US households owned a TV. TV blew up like cell phones would several decades later. And the early years almost no one carried around
Starting point is 00:34:48 one of those big brick early 90s saved by the bell cell phones, but now super fucking weird. To meet someone who doesn't have a cell phone. I literally can't remember meeting anyone in the last couple decades who doesn't have a cell phone. Also in 1960, the Flintstones, premiered as the first animated TV series.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Six decades later, two jackasses would call themselves Fred and Barney on a podcast called as we dumb. 1961 President Kennedy gave the first live televised press conference. 1962, the launching of Telestar one, a communication satellite made live transmission possible globally for the first time. 1963, a poll revealed that Americans got more of their news from TV than from newspapers. And a lot of Americans still get their news from TV. In a 2021 Pew Research Center poll, even though 86% of those polls said they got their news from a smart
Starting point is 00:35:36 phone, computer, or tablet, either often or sometimes, 68% said they still get their news from TV at least sometimes, and 40% said they do so often. November 1963 news coverage of JFK's assassination, shock sedation, and changes how people view the power of TV. This is crazy. An unreal 93% of American households with TVs tuned in to watch live coverage of the president's funeral procession. America mourned together in a way not possible without TV. In 1964, CBS paid $28 million to the NFL for broadcast rights. Started that Monday night football, not too much long later.
Starting point is 00:36:17 January 15th, 1967, the first Super Bowl televised, the Green Bay Packers, beat the Kansas City Chiefs. July 20th, 1969, the entire world witnesses Neil Armstrong take his first steps on the moon or in a studio. Come now on the moon, an estimated 600 to 720 million people worldwide watch this happen on TV at the same time. World population was 3.6 billion, 20% of them watched together. Also in 1969, Sesame Street premieres, 20% of them watched together. Also in 1969, Sesame Street premieres, even though the first color TV was made in 1953 wasn't until the end of the 60s that became the norm for shows to be shot in broadcast in color. End of the 60s, early 70s. By the early 70s, more color TVs were sold than
Starting point is 00:36:58 black and white TVs for the first time. 1977, the VCR was sold to consumers everywhere. Fuck yeah, bro, millions of dads. Soon began hiding porn around their homes and millions of sons and probably more time. 1977 the VCR was sold to consumers everywhere. Fuck yeah bro. Millions of dads soon began hiding porn around their homes and millions of sons and probably more daughters than we realized began finding and watching that porn. These were the early days of television when Betty you know began her career in Rose to start them by the 80s and 90s the power of being a TV star was starting to weigh in a bit thanks to cable TV, HBO launched in 72, showtime in 76, cinematics in 1980, MTV in 81, Playboy TV in 82,
Starting point is 00:37:30 and on and on and on, an explosion of new cable and satellite TV channels. Roku now offers over 3,000 different channels. It's fucking crazy. And now you can watch any movie ever made, any video ever uploaded to the web on your TV, on your phone, things have changed a lot since there was four networks in the 50s. But the focus of TV, entertaining consumers, has stayed pretty much the same.
Starting point is 00:37:52 And Betty White was there for all of it. Now let's meet this entertainment queen right after today's mid-show sponsor break. Now time for Betty White's not powers, incredible life and career. Shrap on those boots, soldier, we're marching down a time, some time line. January 17th, 1922, Betty Marion White, working hard not not to add power was born in Oak Park, Illinois Her parents were Horace and test white Horace was an electrical engineer and traveling salesman and tests worked inside the home and I love the combo of Horace and test Something something an old like I don't know maybe from the 80s or something. I probably older than that. Like afternoon drive time radio duo.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Your listing to Horus and Tess. Here on Melwalk, he's number one easy listing to dole contemporary radio station, 101.1 cheese FM. So Tess, how about that new Michael McDonald track, Hail Mary, off his new wide open album. The former Dubie brother, he's still got it. We're going to play it in a second. Don't go anywhere after this song.
Starting point is 00:39:04 It's finger-looking Friday. And we're going to be giving away a $50 KFC geessertificate to caller number five to kick it off the five o'clock soft rock block. Take it away, triple M. Don't you think it's strange? I still wonder why I've been on this side. And you are less named to Michael McDonald on Horus and Test 101.1 cheese FM. I'm going to walk his number one easy. I'll stop.
Starting point is 00:39:44 So anyway, Horus and Test, getting busy back in 1921, right? One cheese FM, a milk walk is number one easy, oh, I'll stop. So anyway, horse and test, getting busy back in 1921, right, doing some roaring 20s booty rocking. Betty was born 11 months into her parents marriage, their first and only child. And in her autobiography, Betty later wrote about what an awesome childhood she had. Our parents had such a happy marriage, never fell out of love with each other
Starting point is 00:40:03 42 years of marital bliss. And I'm not surprised. I've been shocked to hear that Betty White was born in some like real traumatic childhood situation. Oak Park, where she was born a suburb of Chicago, bordering Chicago to the west, was an estimated 54,583 people per the 2020 census. Some famous Oak Park residents Edgar Rice Burrows, author of Tarzan, Ernest Hemingway, Frank Lloyd Wright, the architect, of course, Betty White. This is actually huge. Long time funny sitcom star and stand up comic Bob Newhart also born there.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Bob is still still doing great 92 years old. Their paths crossed numerous times. Bob made his first televised stand up TV appearance on this night show with Jack Parr in April of 1960 and Betty White was a guest on that episode. And then they worked together in the early 90s on a two-season sitcom Bob had called Bob. We're Betty played his boss for all of season two and one more time on the finale of Hot and Cleveland many years later. 1924 when Betty was just two years old, the white family moves from Illinois to Los Angeles, California. Betty grew up as an only child,
Starting point is 00:41:07 and she put it, spoiled rotten, but taught to appreciate it. Her mom test was an optimist, and taught Betty from a young age to always focus on the positive. Betty clearly listened. Maybe a nature nurture combo here. Maybe she got testes positive genes,
Starting point is 00:41:22 and then had her positive attitude reinforced by mom's at home example. Her dad Horus gave Betty her lifelong love of animals. Once they moved to California, he would take the family camp in Yellowstone or the high sea areas every year. That always see lots of wildlife. Before she ever wanted to be an entertainer as a little girl, Betty wanted to be a forest ranger. Horus and Tess also had a soft spot for stray animals, a huge soft spot. Betty wrote centess also had a soft spot for stray animals. A huge soft spot. Betty wrote, all bet I was the only kid on the block
Starting point is 00:41:49 whose parents would come home with a dog and say, Betty, he followed his home. Please, can we keep him? That's very funny. At one point, Betty would tell a people magazine interviewer they ended up with 26 dogs living in their house at one time. God, I love dogs, but holy fuck, that's way too many dogs. Like if one runs away, I would think it would take weeks or months to even realize it
Starting point is 00:42:12 was missing. How would you make sure that that many dogs were all getting fed? It turned out to be too much for the white family, and one day, Horace did put 25 of those dogs down with his 22 rifle, and Betty said she would never forget it. She said it was the happiest day of her life. Nothing made Betty White power happier than killing some fucking pets. JK, I have no idea what happened to all those dogs.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Betty never said. At some point, early childhood, Betty decided that maybe instead of being a forest ranger, she'd rather be some kind of entertainer or at least work in the entertainment business. She originally wanted to be an opera singer, but no she didn't have the voice for it We're do imagine Betty White as an opera star Betty's biggest inspiration for a time was actress and singer great opera voice Jeanette McDonald's Jeanette huge star dot a star dolling of the 1930s appearing in a number of big musical films during the 30s and 40s. She starred in 29 feature films
Starting point is 00:43:04 Four that were nominated for best picture academy awards. And she had three gold opera records. Betty said in 2018 documentary, I didn't like Jeanette McDonald. I was, Jeanette McDonald. For her grade school years, Betty attended Horace Man, Grammar School in Beverly Hills, where she got involved with the theater.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Way more Horace's than I expected to show up in this or any episode. That school was established in 1929 when she was seven, so she's one of the first kids to go there. It was for K through eighth grade. It's still there today, serving K through fifth graders. She later wrote, my big ambition was to be a writer until I wrote myself into the lead in our graduation play at Horace Mann Grammar School. It was then that I contracted Shobitz Fever, Shobitz, off which there is no known, no known cure. I love that she had different, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:51 big dreams, park ranger, opera singer, writer, actress. She was passionate about what she was about her life, you know. Betty graduated from Beverly Hills High School in 1939. She's saying a spirit flower by a Louis Campbell Tipton at the graduation ceremony. Afterwards, she and the rest of her class were invited to take part in experimental TV broadcasts at the old Packard building in downtown LA, singing songs from the Mary Widow, starring her one-time idol, right, Genevieve Donald.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I bet he was ecstatic to sing the same songs as her idol. The show was only transmitted through six floors of a building. Parents and friends gathered to watch on the first floor while the kids sang on the sixth floor So she was really an early pioneer of TV During World War two Betty served an American women's voluntary services My TV James could put on hold she drove a delivery truck that took supplies to soldiers manning gun In placements in the hills of Santa Monica and in the Hollywood Hills and yes There were gun replacements in the hills of both Santa Monica and Hollywood
Starting point is 00:44:45 and many other places around LA, right? There was a real concern that the Japanese would bring World War II to the American West Coast. And you know, they wanted to, they tried to. But thanks to the US military, they never really pulled that off after that surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. I bet he wrote, I had my driver's license for about 20 minutes. Nonetheless, I drove a PX truck carrying toothpaste, soap, candy, et cetera, to the various gun placement outfits that have been set up in the hills of Hollywood
Starting point is 00:45:09 and Santa Monica. The women's volunteer services was founded in the UK in 1938 to prepare women for civil defense work. By September, the WVS in the UK had 336,000 members. Their numbers increased to a million during the war, and they recruited women for things like air raid, precaution services, running field kitchens, rest centers for bombing victims, providing supplies for soldiers at railway stations, escorting evacuated children, running clothing centers, operating carpools, helping salvage belongings from bond houses, working in hospitals, clinics, and so much more. They prepared up to 38,000 pairs of socks a week for soldiers, randomly, and in 1940 Alice Throck Martin McLean, a woman from New York, well, she organized the American version of the WVS, going on to recruit a
Starting point is 00:45:54 sizable organization to prepare for the home front for war. By the time of the bombing of Pearl Harbor, McLean had more than 18,000 members. These women trained in all kinds of shit too, right, driving ambulances, evacuating crowds, mobile kitchen operation, first aid, emergency services, automobile repair, on and on. They also provided relief and food services for armed forces, armed forces post, disaster workers, wounded servicemen, worked as fire watchers, crop pickers, drivers, photographers, and so much more. And the American version of the WVS, the AWVS, made more than a million new or reconditioned articles of clothing for service men in hospitals. They published booklets, conducted classes for housewives on how to preserve and repair
Starting point is 00:46:35 clothes, sold more than a billion dollars worth of war bonds and stamps. By 1945, they had more than 353,000 members. And one of those members was Betty White Power. I mean, Betty White. And while Hot Young Betty, and she was super hot, was working with a bunch of hot young and hunky GIs, she got engaged to a soldier in November of 1942. After we left to fight, the two rode each other to letters as often as they could, but then after not seeing each other for two years, Betty said she'd chickened out and rode a
Starting point is 00:47:03 break-up letter. She returned her ring to Paul's mother. She went on to wait for some dick, right? I've not seen each other for two years. Betty said she'd chickened out and wrote a breakup letter. She returned her ring to Paul's mother. She went on to wait for some dick, right? She wanted dick and she wanted dick now. There's nothing wrong with that. Do not slouch, I ain't Betty White. She never said that, but I believe it's partially true.
Starting point is 00:47:17 She was a vivacious 21, 22 year old, like dudes. Why wouldn't she? Helos Vina. Still in the AWVS Betty now met her future, first husband. There's the words, Dick Barker, a P-38 pilot. And Frederick Richard, Dick, Frederick Richard, AKA Dick Barker, I told you she was looking for Dick, born on August 16th, 1914.
Starting point is 00:47:40 He met Betty at a Recall, where the AWVS girls went to dance, played games with the soldiers. Mm-hmm. All kinds of games he played. The two got engaged and married on July 7th, 1945. Betty was 23. Then with the war winding down and Dick done with the service, the new couple moved to Dick's chicken farm.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Get some of Dick's chickens. Get those Dick chickens and Rural Ohio. She didn't live there long. Betty described living on the farm as a nightmare. She didn't want Dick bad enough to clean a chicken coop to get some. They were married for only about six months. Betty divorce Barker on December 19th, 1945 and later said, I would not have married my first husband. I married my first because we wanted to sleep together. I love it.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Lasted six months and we were in bed for six months. The marriage with Barker helped me to appreciate the real thing when it came along. I love her. I love the honesty. Love the attitude. They fuck like crazy for six months, guilt-free, because they were married. The sex wasn't worth living around a bunch of fucking chicken shit. She was out. Betty was upset about the divorce saying it hurts to fail at something so important and telling
Starting point is 00:48:40 yourself it's all part of the learning process doesn't help one damn bit at the time. After the war in her divorce, now she refocuses on Chovis and is determined to build a life for herself in LA. Towards the end of the war, Betty got involved in the Bliss Hayden little theater run by Hollywood actors, Lila Bliss and Harry Hayden. Purpose of the theater was to give young people an opportunity to perform in front of an audience and Betty paid 50 bucks to join back in 50 bucks was more like 750 bucks today.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Potential actress paid the fee, auditioned, either got a role in the show or the chance to work backstage, some kind of production role. Betty showed up, auditioned her sweet last off and got the lead role in spring dance. Fuck yeah bro. She loved performing, realized this is what she was meant
Starting point is 00:49:23 to do for the rest of her life. She did so well that Lila Bliss, Harry Hayden, personally offered to toss her salad, shower or no shower. No, they offered her the lead role of Ruth in their production of Dear Ruth now, and doesn't have to pay a fee to perform this time. You get to perform for free this time. On opening night, a show based talent agent, Lane Allen Allen was watching. He complimented her performance after the show Then he returned for the closing performance and asked Betty out on a date. He was extra interested in her
Starting point is 00:49:52 Lane was born in 1914 in Toronto his real name Albert Edward Wooten Really changed up Lane was an actor, but soon learned that agents had more job security And after going on a few dates Betty and Lane fell in love. He wanted to get married, but she was afraid to get married again so soon. She wanted to focus on her career. So she traveled around the various radio show offices on their casting days, right? Grine, grine, grine, putting herself out there, making sacrifices. And most of the time, she was told she didn't have openings. But one day, she's invited the speak to a producer, and Betty enters the office of the
Starting point is 00:50:22 ad agency, Needham Lewis and Broerby, who sponsored the radio comedy, The Great Gilder Sleeve. That ad agency still around today, actually, now known as DDB Worldwide, much better name, headquartered in New York City. Betty met producer Fran Van Hartisfeld, who told her that she had to be part of the American Federation of Radio Artist Union to get any work. This union to be part of the American Federation of Radio Artists Union to get any work. This union will later become after the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists will then later merge with SAG, the Screen Actors Guild to become SAG after.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I've been a member for years now, yay union health insurance. In order to join the union, she had to have a job, so Hertzfeld offered her a one word line and a parquet commercial. Betty later wrote, that kind of altruistic above and beyond gesture or gesture. It doesn't happen often, but once it does, you must always remember to pass it on if you ever get the chance. Because commercials were live back then. Betty's job was just to say parquet on each broadcast of the great guilders to just
Starting point is 00:51:23 wait around, and then somebody pointed at her, Parkay, and then she did that over and over again. Awesome. She earned $37.50 for the job, but it cost $69 to join the union. So she had to borrow money from her dad to get in the union and horse, you know, happy loaned to her.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Even though her whole job was just to say Parkay, young Betty was nervous, terrified that she would mess up the line. I love this. She said she, terrified that she would mess up the line. I love this. She said she had fears that she'd actually say, Parfait instead of Parkay or Parfait, but she never messed it up. Betty soon moved on from the Great Guilders' Leave, earning roles in other radio shows like Blondie, and this is your FBI, which got to say more than one word.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Betty and Lane were still dating, but she still didn't want to marry me yet. Then she received a job offer for what would be a part in her first movie. She would be filming in the high seara's for six weeks. So she decided to break up with Lane. Bye bye. Get out of here, Lane. She traveled to the high seara's to film the daring Miss Jones movie about a girl who goes searching for her father in the wilderness.
Starting point is 00:52:18 She played the main character's friend and was asked to be both script girl and bear keeper in addition to her on camera role because the crew filmed with two bear cubs. I love it. She had a major role in the movie and had to keep an eye on bear cubs. She doesn't happen anymore today. Oh, and you must be Emma Stone. We are so excited to have you in our remake of Mice and Men. You're gonna play Curly's wife like no one ever has.
Starting point is 00:52:43 I hope they told you. You're also in charge of the rabbits and all the animals in the barn Betty loved it. She's loved animals Betty returned home Lane sent her a package a record of Carl revozza I love you for sentimental reasons and now they're fucking back. He crushed it with that gift And not only are they back to date now they get married two months later From November 8th 1947 in 1949 Betty would be married to soon to be former agent casting director and actor Lane Allen. The agency he worked at NCAC shuts down soon after
Starting point is 00:53:10 they get married. Lane takes a job at a furniture store. It was hard on his ego. Betty's making more money than he is. She's in the entertainment industry. He's selling recliners. His male ego doesn't handle it well. He resents her growing career in an industry that had just finished chewing him up and spitting him out. And they'll divorce when he pressured her to quit working and raise a family. A beddie later said, I wish I didn't have two bad marriages. They were probably my fault.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I just didn't marry the right men. I had lovely relationships, but not anything in the league of Alan. She was building appreciation for her third husband who you'll meet. There is something to to that, right? Nothing I advocate jumping to divorce or that I'm trying to rationalize my own divorce, but I certainly would not appreciate so much of what I do appreciate about Lindsey. If I had not been married to someone who wasn't right for me before, that can definitely be a silver lining that comes to divorce.
Starting point is 00:54:00 In 1949, Betty got her first job on TV. And here we go, the beginning of a seven decades long career. She did a guest spot on the Dick Haynes show, a lot of Dick in this episode, too. Television Special, a lot of horse, a lot of dick. Television Special for the then popular LA radio veteran. She landed the gig after being invited to speak to a producer about a TV show, producer Joe Landis asked if she could sing, juggle, and stand on her head all while on top of a horse. And she said she said yes, asked if she could sing, juggle, and stand on her head all while on top of a horse.
Starting point is 00:54:26 And she said, yes, even though she could definitely not do almost any of that. She said, because you see the cardinal rule in our line of work at anybody has anybody young hopeful can tell you is that you do whatever the part calls for time enough to worry about how you're going to do it later. Should you land the part? You know, so you say you can do anything. Yes, so she had some balls. They weren't even paying her for this role. It was just an opportunity to be seen on TV.
Starting point is 00:54:50 She was gonna participate in a special for Dick Haynes, right? The K-L-A-C radio disc jockey, Haynes at the Reigns. One of the top, your listing do Haynes at the Reigns. One of the top morning programs in L.A. and Betty was asked to sing on his first ever TV special. They let go of the horse riding shit apparently. Haines stole Betty to pick two songs show up in her wardrobe on the day of to go over the numbers. Betty chose somebody loves me and I'd like to get you on a slow boat to China. Betty's version I was never recorded but I was curious like what the fuck is that song about?
Starting point is 00:55:22 Here's K Kizer singing a bit of I'd like to get you on a slow boat to China, better than I thought I was gonna be. And more popular, Beth Midler, Barry Manelow, Paul McCartney, many others have actually covered this song. So this is the kind of stuff she was singing when she, first, first got on TV. In my arms evermore Leave all your love earth Weeping on a faraway shore
Starting point is 00:55:55 Here comes the chorus Out on the brining With that moon big and shiny Melting your heart of stone Honey, I'd love to get you On a slow boat to China All to myself Okay
Starting point is 00:56:38 That's way better than I mean I don't know I know you might not like it but that was way better than I thought it was gonna be I thought it was gonna be some old-timey like racist shit when it's talking about getting on a slow boat to China I know what the fuck was going on with that title, but it's a sweet song. She said the performance wasn't her best, but everyone in the studio was kind to her and more importantly saw talent and potential in the then 27-year-old. And how crazy is it that she's, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:57 went on to be on TV specifically for over 70 years and didn't really get started until her second marriage was ending and she was, you know, in her late 20s. Dick Haynes impressed enough, he recommended her for a new 15-minute comedy program, Tom Dick and Harry. But he performed regular skits on the comedy show, Tom Dick, see a lot of Dick and Harry. Tom Dick and Harry, a live weekly show, Mostly Improv. Tom Dick and Harry didn't last long, but, you know, work creates work. It led to more opportunities and Betty's soon got another job at the same TV station. And that show is not the origin of the phrase any Tom Dick and Harry. No one knows for sure where that phrase came from.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Also, when I hear that phrase, I always think of just Harry Dick. I just want to share that. Betty's next opportunity was a game show called Grab Your Phone. Grab Your Phone. Hey everybody! It's another episode of Grab Your Phone. I love these titles. Four girls set on a panel with phones, West Battersea, the host, ASE audience questions. The girls answer the phone as people called in and contestants won $5 for each correct response. I love how much early TV was like radio is now. Like it came out of radio.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Imagine a TV game show now being shot truly live, where you could actually, you could call in and actually see someone pick up your fucking phone call You could see a young Betty white. It was Betty white. I have your phone or whatever the fuck he said Betty was told not to disclose her salary on grab your phone She was promised 20 bucks a week while the other girls were supposed to just get in 10 She didn't know if that was true or just a tactic to underpay her, but she was happy for the paid work I Like that the host name also was a West Battersea. You're a host West Battersea. That's got to be a state's name, right? Is anyone actually named West Battersea?
Starting point is 00:58:37 Betty Love working on game shows. She grew up playing games with her parents getting paid to play games with people on TV. It was come dream come true. Her parents on grab your phone, caps the attention of another LA disc jockey, Al Jarvis, who's launched a new daytime TV show called Hollywood on television, a five fucking hour daily TV show. Five hours in nonstop, five hours. The show needed a girl Friday, old timey term for a female office assistant. Give me a give me a girl Friday. We got to get the show on the air. And he offered Betty the job guaranteeing that she would also show up on TV at least once an episode shot five days a week.
Starting point is 00:59:13 She's offered 50 bucks a week for the job. Quiddit drew about $600 a week now. And Betty later wrote, I had no way of knowing that my lifelong love affair with television had just begun. She worked on Hollywood on television from 1949 to 1953, which I could have found footage to place them now. When Betty told her husband Lane the news, he was happy for it, it's, but expressed concerned
Starting point is 00:59:33 about how much she was working. Betty wrote, I should have heard that first faint warning bow, could it be that my taking a job when I could get one was okay, but an actual career for me was not high in his list of long range plans nailed it. October of 1949, but an actual career for me was not high on his list of long range plans. Nailed it! October of 1949, Betty began her work for the show. She was surprised by the lack of prep.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Most of it was focused on meetings with advertisers rather than prepping the actual show content. Al Jarvis was a great salesman, his audience seemed to buy, whatever he advertised on his radio show, sponsors, eager to utilize his five hours of TV airtime now, five days a week to push products. Betty wasn't quite sure what what she was going to do. But Al Jarvis told her, all you have to do is respond when I talked to you. Just follow where I lead. And you know, once you got a guy going, she went from just like, you know, the appearance, so she was
Starting point is 01:00:15 just with him the entire show. In November of 1949, Hollywood on television premieres for its first week, Betty will later describe the show as a television college. She worked Monday through Friday, five hours straight, mostly ad lib, televised a whole time, learned to think on her feet keeping audits engaged for a long period of time. Show's format, pretty simple, to start, Al Jarvis, sat at a desk, Betty on one side, turntable on the other, open the show, introduce Betty, play some music. He and Betty within chat between records. And one cameraman, Phil Noom, for five hours straight.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Guess I used the bathroom during commercials, but they did the commercials, so no, I guess it is hell bit for five hours at a time. Again, basically it was a radio show or a podcast that happened to be televised. I love that there are now YouTube shows with much bigger production value than that. The show's initial format changed real quick.
Starting point is 01:01:05 After just one week, the audience sent in tons of letters requesting no more records. They just wanted to hear Alan Betty's conversations. By the end of the second week, no more music. So now they're just talking for five hours. It's a show went on. Alan Betty would respond to viewer feedback. They would change the show based on what the audience wanted.
Starting point is 01:01:21 You know, they bring in guest stars, interview them. Excuse me. Eventually, pulling people out the street from prompt to interviews. It sounds like more like a really long podcast on a TV show. Adorably Betty's parents bought a TV so they could watch her daughter every day, spend five hours of sweet, sweet Betty, go to a horse and test. Betty still didn't own a TV. My folks do not listen to times that every week to keep tabs on me. My mom probably just, you know, weep.
Starting point is 01:01:47 If you listen to any episode, be afraid to leave the house and run into someone who might have heard what Phil's her son, it's but. Mother, why? Well, yeah, it's probably too busy killing people getting away with it. You get it? I don't know exactly where he is right now.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I don't know exactly where he's been for months. On anyone, Thanksgiving day, 1949, out told Betty the show was getting an extra 30 minutes a day plus Saturdays now, six days a week, five and a half hours a day. Starting to turn into the fucking Truman show, right? At a couple more hours, they're being filled almost half the hours are a week.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Betty's salary would increase a bunch from 50 bucks a week to 300 a week, the equivalent of around 3,500. She was late, she never felt exhausted. She said by the long hours, a true extrovert, energized her, maybe a bit of a workaholic, doing what she loved, right? She felt joy every day she worked. And working so much, she was getting a lot better, but he's craft improved quickly on the show. She quickly realized that the golden rule was to never get caught
Starting point is 01:02:38 reading a script. She memorized all her ad scripts, continued that practice throughout her career. Had a great memory. She would never use Q-Cards again after her first, you know, year or so on that show. Al Jarvis, great mentor to her. She would later say in 1995 that he said a pace and precedent that holds me in good stead to this day. He told Betty to always make the audience feel like they were in the studio with her to always let them in on jokes. studio with her to always let them in on jokes. He always advised her to avoid wearing a or he also advised her to avoid wearing plunging necklines or tight sweaters. And to that I say boo. Oh, boo. You fucked us. You fucked us out of Betty's prime cleavage years. You boarded so many boner out boner abortion Jarvis. What a piece of shit. Uh, JK of course.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Water career was at an all time high. betty's marriage was deteriorating lane told her flat out He didn't want to be married to a career woman now and betty was like well, then I'm gone They agreed to split up and pursue divorce I wonder how often that used to happen in much more patriarchal times. I wonder how often that happens now 1950 the American Federation of Radio artists changed his name to the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists. Right? After Betty's salary increases to $400 a week as the result of union negotiations, also signs a seven year studio contract promising her a $50 salary increase every year.
Starting point is 01:03:57 It's a fuck yeah, bro. By the end of her seven years, she'll be making $750 a week. Equivalent of about $7,500 a week now, almost $400 a week equivalent of about $7500 a week now almost 400k year 1951 Betty was offered a Sunday evening show called the Betty White Show Better than the Betty White Power Show. Betty Red Letters from viewers responded to questions saying songs played music The show was so successful that Al Jarvis wanted in all the old born or a border was back I Realize that nickname doesn't really make any sense on any level, but I just like to say it. I told Betty that they could do a one hour show
Starting point is 01:04:28 on Saturday nights after their normal all day show. I had been wanting to break into a nighttime TV and now had an opportunity. The premise of a nighttime show was to showcase new talent or their nighttime show. And then the winner would come on to Hollywood on television during the day to perform as a paid guest. So now they're doing fucking six days a week.
Starting point is 01:04:48 They're doing five and a half hour a day shows and also doing another show together. Clearly they got along all right. Betty and Al began doing husband and wife sketches on Hollywood on television, playing the characters Alvin and Elizabeth at one point. Audience love the sketches because they were similar to a downsize version of the popular I Love Lucy. In 1952, Owl leaves Hollywood on television to work for K-ABC
Starting point is 01:05:11 on a daytime dance show for young people, and Eddie Albert is hired as a new host. Betty was sad to say goodbye to her longtime friend and mentor, which she liked Eddie, however Eddie then left after six months, and now Betty became the host of Hollywood on television, making her one of the first female TV hosts ever. She's now 30 years old, working 33 hours a week on live TV. So much screen time. By the time she had Golden Girls,
Starting point is 01:05:34 acting must have just been second nature to her, just effortless in some ways. She was a natural and excelled in skits and songs, unflapable, she could roll with anything. Betty's time on Hollywood on television, led to the founding of her own production company bandy productions named after her peak knees bandit bojangles just became one of Betty White's biggest fans he's very much it approves Betty worked with producer Don Fetterson and writer George Tibbles to create her new company
Starting point is 01:06:00 Betty knew George from his work on the Betty White show. Don worked for the TV station, K-L-A-C-T-V. One morning Betty and George received a message from station manager Don. He'd asked to meet them for lunch and at the lunch Don told him how much the audience liked the Alvin and Elizabeth sketches on Hollywood on television and asked if they're interested in doing a half hour show with those characters, with George as the writer. And Betty later wrote in her book, can you picture a meeting like that today? No team of lawyers, agents, managers, representatives or spouses, just three people saying, yeah, let's go for it. The business has changed so much. Now every deal takes a big team of negotiators. And they weren't just putting together like
Starting point is 01:06:37 a local commercial, you know, they were putting together a sitcom together. They formed, you know, bandy productions, Don comes up with the show's title life with Elizabeth they hired Del Moore a comedy actor to play out and Jack Nars popular radio and TV personality becomes a shows narrator life with Elizabeth premiered on October 7th 1953 two years after the premiere of I Love Lucy the early sitcom star Betty is Elizabeth a married woman with predicaments in life that tested her husband and the show is an instant hit. And when run until September 1st, 1955, Betty had now become one of the first female producers
Starting point is 01:07:11 in Hollywood, although she never thought of herself as a female producer. She'd say, I never even thought of it as being a different gender, you know? It was just you did whatever the job was and whatever job you could get. Life was Elizabeth was quasi improvisational. Uh, everything was filmed live, which led to occasional mishaps that you don't really see on TV much anymore. When Dale Moore once forgot his lines, got flustered, uh, he just straight up left the stage. And Betty had to improvise for 90 seconds until he returned. Got him a choosepist. But those 90 seconds felt one like 90 minutes. Uh, that I mentioned
Starting point is 01:07:43 while she filmed life with Elizabeth, Betty was still busy with Hollywood on television. Six days a week, she would rehearse Elizabeth on Friday nights, do a run-through on Saturday before Hot was filmed, then film Elizabeth Live that night after Hot was done being filmed. This is a fucking workhorse. She endowed and get their scripts until Friday morning. They knew their lines, but if they forgot, they knew how to play, you know, the lines, they would just play off each other and make the scene work.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Many, many years later in 2013, in her essay for Film International, Gwendolyn Audrey Foster, Professor, Professor of Film Studies at the University of Nebraska, wrote about why life with Elizabeth was such a groundbreaking show for its time. Betty's role as Elizabeth portrayed an independent and capable woman. And very likely because of this, she didn't become nearly as popular as characters like Lucy and I Love Lucy, who appealed more to the audiences of the time.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Elizabeth was more intelligent than her husband and an equal partner in the marriage, life with Elizabeth taught women clever ways to handle conflicts in a marriage. And that, a woman appearing clever, maybe even smarter than her husband in some ways, controversial back then. Foster wrote in life with Elizabeth, Elizabeth, when faced with a problem, relies less on plain dumb and more on her ability to think things through analytically. I note
Starting point is 01:08:54 that many times the camera just stops on White's face as she thinks, we watch in here a studio audience laugh, perhaps a bit uncomfortably, or perhaps a bit knowingly, as we simply watch a woman use her mind in the 50s. The simple act of watching a woman really think through a situation was a feminist act in the early 50s. How fucking crazy is that? That a lot of people were genuinely like a bit shocked. What?
Starting point is 01:09:17 A woman? Thinking! Get out of here! Lucifina just sighed, motorized. I thought it was just 70 years ago. Life with Elizabeth also featured the unique element of breaking the fourth wall. Elizabeth winked at the audience,
Starting point is 01:09:28 dressed in narrator, which established a closeness with the audience that other shows didn't have. Betty insisted on a three-part structure to the show, featuring seven-minute independent segments. narrator Jack Nars discussed each incident at the beginning of the segment. And at the end of each segment, the narrator always asked,
Starting point is 01:09:44 Elizabeth, aren't you ashamed? And Betty always smiled back and shook her head, no, as if refusing to back down. Not being ashamed of outsmarting your husband, edgy, edgy back then, gosh dang. Let's check out a little bit of what 1953 TV looked like, early sounds like. This episode, this is called Wacky Biscuits. The incident number one in the life of Elizabeth occurred when she and Alvin were newlyweds.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And Elizabeth has a newlyweds you have to see to believe. So, let's go see. Why? Elizabeth? All right, tonight. She's upset. That bad, huh? She's trying.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Not the biscuits turn out. All right, tonight. She's upset. That bad, huh? She's crying. Not the biscuits turn out. She's really upset. She's not happy with biscuits. You know what's the other way? Elizabeth, you shouldn't take him out of the oven. They might fall. What the way he's talking to her?
Starting point is 01:10:38 What are you looking at? Love me anyway. They're huge. Huge, huge, huge cartoonist a huge Hard to rock knock him like it's a self Now it's not a phone's ringing Hold Road refund This is so 1950s I wanted to make such a beautiful dinner for Alvin on our first anniversary.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Well, the question is, we've been married over a week. Right? There's no anniversary work? Oh, my God. Now some guy walks in. I know that. Not her husband. I know all that love, but that doesn't help me.
Starting point is 01:11:37 No. Why didn't you tell me? She sees the guy she's scared. How did it live, man? Who are you? Well, now I know who you are. She sees the guy she's scared She still has a fun to read right so mom is thinking she's talking to her who are you? I'm your mom and now the comedy is back and forth, you know you get it Bet you received an Emmy nomination for best actress for her work on the show saying later There is no point trying to be coy about it admittedly It's a first class ego trip.
Starting point is 01:12:06 But having been chosen by one's peers to receive that lovely little statue at is a genuine thrill. The never completely goes away. Later that year, Don Federer sent made arrangements to get life with Elizabeth on film so they could distribute it around the country. On set of Saturday night, live shows
Starting point is 01:12:20 they now moved into a actual studio. Embedded in like the move. She especially hated filming scenes over and over to get the different camera angles. You know if somebody messed up a line they would redo it now. She described it like doing comedy and a mortuary. Betty would have been a killer stand-up comic, right? She loved to add lips, she had a live audience's energy. She would have also killed on shows like whose line is it anyway. Towards the end of 1953, Fetterson announces he's leaving KLAC
Starting point is 01:12:45 to start a zone production company, offers to take bandy productions with him, life with Elizabeth continues, but Betty ends her time on hot. So now after leaving hot, Hollywood on television, Betty got a meeting with NBC for a daytime half hour show now.
Starting point is 01:12:59 One of the first questions they asked was, if I thought I could bear up under the strain of doing a half hour show every day, five days a week. She obviously found this hilarious. It's like they didn't fucking pay attention. The fact that she was working six days a week, five and a half hours a day for years. January of 1954, the Betty White show premieres on NBC nationwide. The entire country could see the show at the same time.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Right before, you know, it was like regional. The way it was distributed. Betty moved into a new NBC facility in Burbank studio. One, the network allowed Betty to hire a female director, Betty Turbavill, Betty on Betty action. Turbavill, one of the first female directors in the industry, they're in the show. Betty sang, did celebrity guest interviews, her band played songs. She did all the live commercials. I mean, that's fucking crazy too. The way they would do these shows back then right she is you know has to do all the shows you do that she's having everything go and interviewing the guests he's singing songs and doing this like every day a
Starting point is 01:13:54 commercial break she doesn't get to go use the bathroom like she's doing the commercials she interacted with the fucking band before she did the commercials oh my gosh she always closed the by singing the show's theme song. Here's one of the songs she sang in 1954. I wish you were here. Unfortunately not the Pink Floyd, no version, but still good and she had a great voice. The second half of the Baby White Show from Hollywood. From Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:14:23 This is a song that takes you back to about a year and a half ago, just about exactly. See what kind of memories it brings out. OK. They're not making the skies as blue. I did not expect that voice that I heard. I wish you were here. As blue as they used to when you were here.
Starting point is 01:14:53 I wish you were here. And the mornings don't seem as new. And you as they did with you. So you had a great voice. Yeah, she was doing that show. She was once offered a sizable amount of money to do a co-text commercial. The company wanted to test how accepting the public would be of a feminine product commercial.
Starting point is 01:15:16 And Betty told them politely that there was not enough money in the world to get her to do something like that. Man, the 50s. Men and women alike, afraid to talk about tampons in public. Hush! Don't talk about your filthy childhole, egg purchase ladies, no one wants to hear about your uterine lining, go bleed in private, and then wash up that hua. So it's ready for some ween action. Crazy out's a big deal for a lot of people to talk about it, you know still.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Man, if my dick bled once a month, I promise you, you would fucking hear about it. You'd hear about it every month. For a few days a month, every single month, it'd be hard for me to think about anything else. How am I doing? Well, my dick's dropping blood, so you know it could be better. So I'm not as chipper as you would like today, Lindsey. I've been a little preoccupied with my bloody dick.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Yes, it's that time again. And no, I don't feel like going out tonight. I'm gonna wrap my dick up in a dick pad, sell the couch, and have some ice cream watch golden girls. A baby was socially bold with her new show. She had a female director, and a black tap dancer, Arthur Duncan is a regular guest. She would take a lot of heat for that.
Starting point is 01:16:20 1950s, not great for women's rights, less great for black Americans' rights. She said it came as a frightfully ugly surprise one day when a few of the stations that carried our show through the South And notified us that they would with deep regret find it most difficult to broadcast the program They probably didn't see like that. Oh with deep regret. We will find it most difficult to broadcast the program Unless mr. Arthur Duncan be removed from the cast. She said I was shocked and it goes without saying that Arthur continued to perform on our show as often as possible to its credit, the network back to sub.
Starting point is 01:16:57 I was living it, it's 1954 for having sake. I wanted to tell them what to do with their stations but why is her heads prevailed? God I wish you wouldn't rip them a fucking new one. Like some crazy audio recording somehow of Betty White back then just getting like so profane. So vulgar, just heated. Oh, you don't like seeing Arthur tap dance on your TV? You dumb fuck redneck cuts. Oh, okay, next week he's not tap dance now.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Next week he's gonna whip his black dick out. He's gonna hammer the sweet pink pussy, right? Knock this precious white ass out till I squirt mother fuckers, bouncing black balls, jiggling white titties. That's our next show. That's the name of our next show you dipshit. No one tells Betty White Power who the fuck
Starting point is 01:17:36 she can have on her show. You can lick my pus if you don't like it. God, that'd be fucking amazing to see Betty White say something like that. Betty refused to take Duncan out the show, right? Chad actually had him on the show more after that. She told her critics, sorry, live with it. So, you know, so kind of what I said, you know, less words,
Starting point is 01:17:53 and then gave Duncan, you know, again, more airtime. So, hell, nevermind. The Betty White show also features a segment called Wish Day, orphaned or underprivileged children were invited onto her show, interviewed, they would make a wish, and then I thought this was kind of funny instead of granting that wish Betty would point at them and laugh while Arthur Duncan Tap dance like maniacally behind her and she would scream stuff like wishes don't come true enough for orphans I bet you wish your parents were still alive and then she'd have Arthur drag the crying kids out of the camera frame And sometimes a few minutes later like just for extra fun you'd hear gunshots. So we'll never explain
Starting point is 01:18:25 That's to my, crazy talk. No, but she really did have orphans come and they would be interviewed and then they would get their wishes. Betty also liked to do animal features as often as possible. Around this time, Betty moved in with her parents in Brentwood. She's barely home, wasn't dating, why waste money on her own place,
Starting point is 01:18:41 and she loved mommy and daddy, horse and test. They were pretty fucking great. Betty would drive 45 minutes to get to the studio by 6 a.m. for her hair and makeup. And mom Tess, we get up at 4 a.m. with sweet Betty Boop. Every morning, so they could be breakfast together. Oh, all the fields.
Starting point is 01:18:59 December of 1954, Betty travels in New York to meet with NBC about her show. And she's informed it was being canceled after a final broadcast December 31st, so Mary fucking Christmas She later said it was my first trip to New York and our bleak two days served as anything but an auspicious introduction to the city Excuse me. I was convinced it was the end of the world for me I would not only never work again, but any joint life was over forever
Starting point is 01:19:20 Betty fought tears as she sang her last closing song on December 31, 1954. But of course, her career far from over. After the Betty White show ended, Betty participated in parades, guest shots, various game shows for the next few years. It's better than nothing, but not what she wanted. She said, a few years of tight schedules and hours of the studio just to and guest shots and game shows didn't seem quite like an honest day's labor.
Starting point is 01:19:43 On 1957, Betty produced and starred in another show, Date with the Angels. Date with the Angels offered a comedic look at domestic life, but was different than life with Elizabeth. Betty got the idea from the play Dream Girl and the short story of the secret life of Walter Mitty. The premise is very simple. The main character experiences a situation that doesn't go the way she wanted it to, and she replays it again in her mind. The protagonist were a young married couple Gus and Vicki Angel, Betty hired Jim Nars again in the announcer, Bill Williams, Western actor as a husband, writer Fran Van Harvest, Harvest Fout, old friend who gave Betty her first job.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Don gave them a one year deal with the Chrysler Corporation and the show would air an ABC network primetime. But he was excited about the three camera system, which meant they could go back to filming once in front of a live studio audience. The show premiered on May 10th, 1957, ended January 29th, 1958. So one season, 33 episodes. It was unique because it portrayed female fantasy on television, possibly for the first time, geared towards a female audience. And that, again, edgy, edgy-step controversial. Male critics, male audiences, and the show's sponsor did not care for it. One critic from New York, the New York Harold Tribune, called Betty aggressively feminine. Oh man, check out the aggressively feminine plot of the January 8th, 1958 episode of date with the angels titled The Train.
Starting point is 01:21:10 The angels in Clemsons head to San Francisco, hoping to impress a company bigwig base there. The husbands lose their wives cooperation after behaving like drooling schoolboys around a pair of attractive sisters aboard the train. Two TV wives annoyed at their husbands, for gratuitously staring at two attractive women. How aggressively feminine! Boys, let me boys, feminists, let them drool! The show sponsor, Chrysler, didn't like the dream sequences. Requested more at-home sequences.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Stop having fantasies, ladies. Less thinking and dreaming, more cooking and cleaning. Lookin' hot, but not hard on hot, all right? Let's keep it square. Day with the angels slowly became, you know, like every other bland, dull domestic comedy, the cast and crew began to lose their passion. Betty wrote, I think I can honestly say,
Starting point is 01:21:54 this is, you know, years later, that this was the only time I have ever wanted to get out of a show. We were plugin' along and surviving barely, but there was no longer any difference spit on it. And as a result, the fun was gone. So after one season, he knows done. 1958 and a TV producer,
Starting point is 01:22:09 a long time Betty White, fan and friend Don, veterans and invites Betty to New York for another meeting. She's asked to appear as a guest panelist on the game show, What's My Line? She was also booked onto the tonight's show with Jack Parr. Betty was a big fan of What's My Line? A panel show or contestants? Must guess a guest job by asking you ask for no questions. The guest was always
Starting point is 01:22:27 a famous celebrity. The show had already been on the air for five years previously. From 1958 to 1962, Betty made numerous appearances on the tonight show, which Jack Par, they become great friends. She would end up appearing on the tonight show a ridiculous 70 times. And sometimes we'd even host when Jack was at a town. Those two, yeah, 400 close friendship that he was invited to come onto the show whenever she could she get 400 bucks for appearance The trips in New York was so expensive she was he broke even but you know, she had a great time and he kept her into public eye 1958 Betty met her next love interest Phil Cochran aka Phil elephant cock Cochran Sometimes just known as the cock.
Starting point is 01:23:05 And he would talk her into quite the career shakeup. Betty now 36, starred in her very first adult film with Phil this year. Parodyne her life with Elizabeth sitcom. It was called Life Inside Elizabeth. The movie you can still find it on PornHub features Phil and Betty, two other women, young Clint Eastwood,
Starting point is 01:23:23 getting into all kinds of shenanigans. Straight porn, man on man, woman on woman, double penetration ATM, they went wild, went for it. Betty delivered a line that became one of her most quoted ever in her career in this film. She said, everyone's getting drilled, all holes must be filled. Betty White Power, 1958.
Starting point is 01:23:43 I'm sick. That made me laugh too hard when I thought of it. No, 1958 Betty did meet her next love interest. Phil Cochran though. I'm an idiot. His brother Tom was one of Jack Parr's friends and Phil was renowned flying ace from World War II. He's a badass.
Starting point is 01:23:57 True War hero who consulted on some war movies featuring aerial combat following his service years. I have no idea. I don't know anything about his dick. I don't know if he's called the cock. Jack Parr invited Phil to come watch the tonight show. Same night, Betty was a guest. After the taping, Betty went out to dinner with Phil, Tom, Jack, some other friends.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Tom and Phil took Betty out to see musicians after dinner, ended up, you know, ending the long night with hamburgers of PJ Clarks as the sun was beginning to rise. I love that she had fun, lived it up. She later wrote the, that silly matchmaking game and subsequent night in the town was the beginning of a deep and lovely love affair. The last it almost four years. I don't think she wasn't worried about getting married to have sex anymore, right? It was almost a 60s baby. Betty didn't think much of Dayton Phil initially until she was invited to do summer theater, the following
Starting point is 01:24:41 summer by John Kenley, who knew her from the tonight show, Betty performed in the King and I across the Northeast. Filled with an eerie Pennsylvania on a horse farm, he came out to see her, you know, twice, and the two reconnected, got it fucking on. Woo! I'm guessing, no proof. Betty continued working in the 60s on game shows and sitcoms like the United States Steel Hour.
Starting point is 01:25:10 That sounds, that sounds very exciting to tell the truth match game. You don't say and petty code junction. She maintained her status as a well known TV personality throughout appearances on these cockshoes and variety shows as well, not just game shows. And total Betty would end up appearing on more than 50 different game shows. Some of Betty's favorite work was game shows, right? In fact, she would meet her third and final husband, Love of her life, Alan Ludden, on password. From 1961 to 1975, Betty would be a frequent guest on password, as big hit. According to Betty, password hit the ground, running and almost immediately became the hottest daytime show around. In October of 61, CBS ordered a six-show week
Starting point is 01:25:43 to run during primetime. So many fucking shows they would do back then. Password was unique because it paired a celebrity with a non-celerity contestant and the two worked together as a team to guess the password. Alan Luddon, the host for, you know, 20 years. And here's a clip of Betty on the show along with Jack Parr in 1963. This is the lovely star of Hollywood and television, Alan Ludden's beautiful wife Betty Whites. Thank you and this is my partner Robert Ware from Indianapolis, Indiana.
Starting point is 01:26:12 This is the celebrated humorist and television star, Miriam Parr's wonderful husband Jack Carr. Hello, this is my partner Anna Zarelli from Staten Island, New York and we're all here to play Password. Yes, it's Password. Yes, it's Password. No, here's your host on Password. Love the beat. Alan Ludden.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Oh, God. Well, good evening, curious. Nice to have you. What is this Monday evening? Jack Parts. It's a pleasure to have you back. I'm very happy to be here and congratulations. Thank you. Hello, Betty.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Hello, Alan. What are your plans for the summer, Betty? Well, I'm going to do some summer... What did you have in mind, Alan? I'm going to do some summer theater with my husband, Alan. I'm going to do some summer theater with my husband, Betty. Well, I'm gonna do some, what did you have in mind, Alan? I'm gonna do some summer theater with my husband, Alan. Where, Betty? Alan and I are gonna do Alan Loven, that is,
Starting point is 01:27:15 on password, are gonna do Brigaduin in Patterson, New Jersey, and then we're gonna do, I go to St. Louis, we're gonna have a big fight, then I go to St. Louis and do King and I, then we make up, and Alan and I are gonna get back together again in Janus Denison's Galhegan. Gee, I hope I can see it. Nice to have you here. It's very real happy. Betty here. Your first partner and I Betty.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Kind of a honeymoon that you have. So clearly she's got married there. I kind of watched that full episode. Betty had such charisma. Wow, when I watch her anything, any age, I just kind of help with smile. What a special meat sack she really was. I was a fan before this episode, a bigger fan now. A Luddon had been the MC of another game show
Starting point is 01:27:55 before this, the GE College Bowl, Sunday nights, according to Betty, that gave him an egghead image, but password allowed him to show off his dry sense of humor. Luddon was born Alan Packard, Ellsworth, October 5th, 1917, and Mineral Point, Wisconsin. He's a TV personality actor, MC and game show host, mostly games show host, graduated from the University of Texas in Austin, 1940, earned a master's of arts in English in 1941, served in World War II, received a bronze star before being discharged as an army captain in 1946.
Starting point is 01:28:25 And after the war, he would pursue his passions in the performing arts to let his success and radio follow by a long career as a game show host. They met Alan and Betty during the third week of filming Password, which was the first time Betty appeared as celebrity guest in the show. And she immediately noticed how kind Alan was. He treated all his guests well, made an effort to speak to everybody He was also married then so no Flurden for Betty. No previous to the one we just heard not long after her appearance She was off to film a movie to kick off 1962 She started an advise and consent to playing Senator Bessie Adams going head-to-head with various sex offenders in Washington
Starting point is 01:28:59 Considered her first serious role and of course because she's Betty fucking white. She did great March of 1962 she gets a call from an agent. She'd received an offer to do summer theater across New England. Alan Lutton had been booked for the lead role in a new play called Critics Choice, and they wanted Betty to play opposite him. She happily agreed. And May of that year, Betty received a call from Alan, letting her know that password was coming to LA for a week of shows.
Starting point is 01:29:21 She invited her to watch a show in Critics Choice at the theater in Hollywood. They dinnered together with a week of shows. Invite her to watch a showing of critics choice at the theater in Hollywood. They dinner together with a few other people, watch the play, some friends, and that night Alan and Betty get to talk and then she learns that his first wife had recently died in October of 1961 from lung cancer. During the first week of filming password, her condition had worsened. Poor bastard Alan would head to work straight from the hospital. Alan and his first wife married for 18 years, had three children, ages 14, 13, and 10. And now Allen wanted to do some summer theater to get himself as kids out of the house,
Starting point is 01:29:51 get them away from a lot of memories that are painful at the moment. That summer, Allen and Betty plays husband and wife, play husband and wife in critics choice. The third act featured a kissing, which Betty's war hero boyfriend filled the cock. Not too pleased about. Betty spent the summer living with Alan and his children
Starting point is 01:30:06 in a house in Maine. Phil really didn't like that. Formed a close bond with his children. Didn't realize it at first, but she was slowly falling for him. During one of the later showings of Critics' Choice, Betty noticed that Alan held the kiss for longer than usual, and she was unable to deny her feelings for him any longer.
Starting point is 01:30:22 She wrote later in her autobiography, I wanted to know how powerful his rect penis could be. I wanted to know if I'd like it. Laugh at it, or I'll get down on my knees and worship it. Would it amuse me, excite me, terrify me? Would it barely part my lips or choke me? Would it make me have my mascara run, or would it just be something kind of cute and silly that you could only put your mouth when something better wasn't around like a touchy roll? Of course she did not say that, but I love to imagine her saying that in her ridiculously adorable Betty White voice. Now what she really said was, being together so much in Maine's beautiful environment, we formed some easy friendships and some running jokes. Instead of hello or good
Starting point is 01:30:57 morning, Alan soon began to substate, Jesus Christ, I can't, Alan soon began to substitute, will you marry me? First Betty thought it was a joke, but Alan was relentless. She was devastated to leave Alan and his kids at the end of the summer when the theater program was over. She wrote the group nonsense. This group nonsense was harmless and not unusual among temporary professional families,
Starting point is 01:31:18 talking about the closing night. Come closing night, there are always heartfelt goodbyes and hopes that pass will cross again someday then everyone heads back to real life. As a rule, the good intentions of keeping in touch are rarely realized. This is how it's supposed to work anyway, but our Closing Night celebration rang a little hollow. We'd all grown genuinely fond of one another. Besides youngsters can't be expected to understand Shobu's rules, that you can form great friendships,
Starting point is 01:31:40 then turn around and put them on hold for long periods of time. Betty was still dating Phil at this time. Obviously, not one of Alan's biggest fans. Alan, not a big fan of Phil, either. Alan and Phil both aware that Betty has strong feelings for them both awkward. And for a time, Betty decides to continue to see both of them, today both of them, stating without getting heavily involved with either one. Phil then asked her to marry him, but she rejects his proposal. She thought, sure what she wants wants to do doesn't want to move to the East Coast. She's playing the field. I feel like young Betty had quite a bit of loose feet in her. I like it. By December, by December of 1962, she would write, the tightrope act had about run his course. It was
Starting point is 01:32:16 becoming increasingly impossible to pretend we were all just good friends. I loved Phil dearly that would never change, but I can no longer kid myself. I'd fallen very much in love with Alan Lutton. January of 1963, Betty, who just turned 41 and to relationship with Phil. I loved Field Deerly that would never change, but I could no longer kid myself. I'd fallen very much in love with Alan Ludden. January of 1963, Betty, who just turned 41, ends her relationship with Phil. She flies to New York to spend two days with Alan. Hello, fuck fast. She said in love, as I was,
Starting point is 01:32:36 nonetheless, marrying and moving east was still not in the equation. Alan, however, had 18 years of a happy marriage behind him, not two divorces. He truly believed in what he was selling and kept the pressure on. Alan proposed one night over dinner. He gave Betty a gold ring with a circle of diamonds.
Starting point is 01:32:50 She said, no, Alan told her you might as well keep it because one of these days you'll put it on for keeps. And Betty was irritated, told him to forget it. In fact, she said, let me up or forget the whole thing. She wouldn't marry him because she didn't want to move to New York. Alan, who was madly in love with her, took the ring back and then wore it on a chain around his neck every day. Sweet Christ, I can't let to move to New York. Alan, who was madly in love with her, took the ring back and then wore it on a chain around his neck every day. Sweet Christ,
Starting point is 01:33:07 I can't let Lindsey listen to this episode. This guy was too adorable. She want to know why I'm not wearing something to hers every day around my neck. Betty finally accepted Alan's proposal Easter Sunday, 1963. Alan sent her a stuffed bunny with Ruby Diamond and Sapphire earrings. Fuck this guy. He's making the rest of us look bad. The bunny came with a note, please say yes. Betty realized she would never, you know, probably be with Alan if she didn't say yes now. It's now or never.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Alan calls her that night. Instead of answering with hello, Betty answers with yes. I love their story. He must have been so damn happy. Many years later, Betty would say that her biggest regret in life was pushing Alan away because she wasted a year and a half they could have been together. God, if I ever gain access to a time machine. I'm gonna travel back and meet Betty White. It's a hugger
Starting point is 01:33:50 Tell her I love her and thank you for existing What is it about Betty's? My grandma Betty's an amazing woman too. Amazing meat sack, right? A lot of good Betty's. I can't think of it. I come to think of it I can't think of a of ever meeting a Betty. I haven't liked June 14th 1963 Betty and Alan finally get married. They have a ceremony in Vegas, followed by a short honeymoon and Laguna Beach then fly back to New York, got to get back to work.
Starting point is 01:34:12 As a wedding gift, Jack Parr played password with them. That was what we just listened to. He normally refused all games to opportunities but made an exception for his friends. Betty and Alan never had any children of their own, but she did help raise his three children, David, Martha, and Sarah. It was a great step mom.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Betty told CBS in 2012 that she never had kids herself because I didn't choose to have children because I'm focused on my career, and I just don't think as compulsive as I am that I could manage both. So bold choice for a woman born when she was born. And what great self-awareness, right? The more I read about her, again, the more I fucking love her. I know this whole episode is a fucking fluff piece, but damn it, she was great.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Betty moves to New York for four years until password gets moved to California. November of 1963, shortly after moving to New York, Betty's horse, Betty's horse. She has a horse now, guys. No, Betty's father, Horace, came down with a severe cold and was sent to the hospital. He was scheduled for release the next day.
Starting point is 01:35:04 And then Betty's mother, Tessess is also admitted to the hospital because of a low blood count. Betty flew overnight to pick up her dad. She took him home and settled him down to watch a football game. And she left to get into lunch. And when she returned, he had passed away. There was only 64. Hadn't appeared that sick, total shock. Betty's mother still sick herself was sadly unable to attend the funeral, but discharged from the hospital the day after and Betty decided to move her to New York. And Alan would support her throughout the entire ordeal. It was during that suspended weekend that began to become clear to me what marriage is all about. She said an incredibly slow study. I
Starting point is 01:35:40 came to realize that Alan and I weren't two separate entities. We were together from that day forward. Any problems we had came from the outside. Man, hail, name rock. By May of 1967, password is taping six weeks a year in LA now, more and more shows are moving from the East Coast to the West Coast. Then in September, CBS cancels password. Despite the show being so popular, it became the first game show to play reruns on air. Betty and Alan are devastated because the show had maintained record high ratings for many years. They weren't sure what their next steps were going to be. August of 68, Betty, Alan and
Starting point is 01:36:12 his kids moved to Brentwood Los Angeles. We've been to the neighborhood before, right back in the OJ suck. Luckily in this episode, no one's getting murdered. In 1970, Betty gets new opportunity to host her own show in l.a. the pet set alan her conceptualized it sold it to the car nation company betty would invite celebrities to bring their pets on for interviews uh... she also had a wild spot segments which featured exotic animals the biggest animal she ever had in the show with an asian elephant it's hard work to arrange all the interviews but betty loved it saying i
Starting point is 01:36:41 feel like a kid a candy store because right in the show around each celebrity specific interest gave me great latitude to use anything and everything that was available. Betty did 39 episodes before funding got pulled her show featured Tigers, Lions, Bears, Wolves, Water Buffalo, Zebra, Ostrich, and that elephant. 1971 ABC picked up password for,
Starting point is 01:37:01 all, sorry, picked up a version called password all stars, a celebrity's only password reboot. Then in 1975, they read the show with regular contestants and in 1979, NBC launched password plus. And Alan hosted all of it. He hosted the show until October 1980. So right, they're back on track. But then cancer forces him to step down more on that tragic illness in just a bit. From 1973 to 1977, Betty White guest starred in the famous Mary Tyler Moore show, playing the now iconic character, Sueanne Nivens. With this role she showed America, she was more than a pretty smile, she had wit, she could play a strong character. Sueanne Nivens was the co-worker of Mary Tyler Moore in a TV newsroom in Minneapolis. She was the host of the Happy
Starting point is 01:37:43 Homemaker segment of the show. It was a very different role for Betty. Sueanne was sassy, snarky, sex positive. She hadn't played anything, you know, of that kind of sexuality of a sexual nature. Since she'd shot that porno with Clint Eastwood and Phil Olesman-Cock-Cockron, life inside Elizabeth. JK, of course.
Starting point is 01:37:59 The casting director is trying to find the actress to play Sueanne Nevens, describe the character as a Betty White type, but didn't want to actually hire Betty because she and Mary Tyler were more of a good friends. They didn't want to damage a friendship if Betty auditioned and then didn't get the role. So they went through 12 actresses, but none of them were sickening enough, sickeningly sweet. They had to call in Betty White to play a Betty White type character.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Reminds me of a random audition I had years going LA. I don't even remember what the sitcom was what was what I was auditioning for. I was auditioning for a role where they were looking for a Brian Callin type and right before I went in the room with the producers to audition Brian fucking Callin walked out. So I had to follow Brian Callin auditioning for a role to call for being as Brian Callin as possible. No surprise I didn't get it.
Starting point is 01:38:43 I knew I was going to get it when I walked into the room. I'm pretty sure Brian Callan got it. Makes sense that he would play himself better than I could. Betty was only supposed to do one episode when she landed her role, but the audience loved her so much that kept her on. Right after her first performance, she was informed that the writers were going to work
Starting point is 01:38:57 on another Su-Anne script immediately. Betty loved playing the character of Su-Anne and she enjoyed the live audience aspect of the show. Here's a little Su-Anne seen from the Mary Child and Moore show featuring Su-An and she enjoyed the live audience aspect of the show. Here's a little Su-An scene from the from the Mary Tata Moore show featuring Su-An heavily flirting with station manager or station producer Lu played by the wonderful Ed Asner. I love these intro sequences. I'll make it after long. I love these intro sequences. Come on, Mr. Grant, don't ask me to shop for you.
Starting point is 01:39:31 Please, Mary, just get Su-Anne anything that you think she might like. Here is $20. Oh, no, you're so thoughtful. Is it touching properly? Oh, look, just because it's my birthday, you don't have to go to all the trouble of going out and buying me a present. I'll do it for you. You want $20 being up?
Starting point is 01:39:52 Oh, $20 will be fine. I bet you'll say that to all the guys. What have we seen? Another, later she's already about the present, wrapped it herself from him. And the next company, somebody's house. His lap is very comfortable. To the most voluptuous, exciting, desirable creature on God's earth. With admiration and lust.
Starting point is 01:40:21 And for the friends, she pulls out some scampi lingerie. Oh, you shunned me. Yeah, well, where good help? She was self-hugged funny. Incredible comedic timing. Like, again, I can't not smile and watch it. One of the best sitcom actors ever. And they're running for the best, in my opinion,
Starting point is 01:40:48 consistently killed it, scene actress saying, roll out for roll for decades. Betty won two Emmys for her work on that show. 1975 and 1976, she won outstanding, continuing performance by supporting actress in a comedy series. Show wrapped up as one of the most critically acclaimed and popular sitcoms of all time in 1977.
Starting point is 01:41:06 Still is. The Mary Tyler Moore show won 29 Emmys, one of them, not just nominated, won 29 Emmys. In 2013, the Ryder's Guild of America ranked at number six on its list of the of 101 best written TV series of all time. Number one was the sopranos. Number 69 on that same list was Betty's other major hit show, The Golden Girls, far too low of a ranking, I think. I love the X-Files, but it ranked in at number 26. And to me, the writing not nearly as tight or consistent as Golden Girls, but you know, I'm not a TV critic. From 1977, 1978, Betty White hosted her own show again. The Betty White show is reborn. Then in May 1980, her husband, Alan, goes in for a gallium scan, a test to
Starting point is 01:41:46 look for inflammation, infection, or cancer in the body. And you know, it's going to happen. The results identify a hot spot. Alan is quickly scheduled for surgery, the doctor who operated on him informed Betty that Alan had stomach cancer. They removed as much as they could, but they couldn't get it all. And Alan is told he has just months left to live. So fuck. Betty and Alan do not wallow in self-pity. Those two beautiful souls decided to move on and make the most of every day for whatever time we had, you wrote. Alan decided he would work for as long as he could, not stepping down from password until October of 1985,
Starting point is 01:42:16 months later. And then Alan Leiden passed away from cancer June 9th, 1901. He'd lived for just over a year after his initial surgery. Alan spent two nights with Betty at their house in Carmel, California, largely in each other's arms before he passed away. At least he died surrounded in love, I guess. He died just five days from their 18th wedding anniversary. He was buried in Mineral Point, Wisconsin, or he was born. We're Betty and the kids at a funeral for him.
Starting point is 01:42:41 Betty then had an area of the L.A. Zoo renamed the Luddon Plaza in her husband's owner. Both have been big conservationists and animal rights supporters. Betty wrote the quality time that Alan and I had together even after we became aware of what was in store is something for which I will be eternally grateful. There's that optimism. Mama Gavre, definitely never cried
Starting point is 01:42:59 when we're working on this part of the show. Didn't have a blow my nose or anything. Betty later told Larry King she would never marry again because once you've had the best, who needs the rest? I got a special love relationship they had. After taking a year or so to grieve, Betty got back at it, back into acting after a brief, very interesting period of riding with a local hell's angels motorcycle club chapter. She wanted to shake things up, hit the road, not think about her former life, right? Get out in the open air
Starting point is 01:43:26 Hit the highway Normally women of course as we learned in that episode not allowed in the hell's angels actually no woman has ever been patched in or even Prospected other than Betty fucking white Years later she will be buried in her chapter vest. She stopped being an active member in the organization after nearly killing several men in altercation between her chapter and some members of the cleveland steamers motorcycle club at a rally uh... in indiana uh... all you know all of the long time president of the cleveland steamers uh... just tell us what happened
Starting point is 01:43:55 everybody and uh... i'm to smart tenets found a godfather original charter president for the cleveland steamers morshire club and i want to be by the time i got into a little scuffle with Betty White. What I mattered, she was going by the earlier stage name Betty White Power again and she was in a real dark place. In my club in her hell's angel chapter some
Starting point is 01:44:16 Mongols, Benditos, Sons of Silence and some more real tough writers you know we're all in theapolis for a Phil Collins concert. Right before he recorded no Jacket required. That's a great album. That concert was the first time I heard, uh, Sosudio. Sosudio! Sosudio! Anywho, may the guys, we're on the parking lot after the show.
Starting point is 01:44:36 Not gonna back some Black Cherry flavored secrets winecours. Some kind of don't make anymore when uprolls Betty. And I'm like, whoa, Suen, Nivens, from Mar from Maritime or more and she says to me and I'll never forget this She says not fool Betty white power from life inside Elizabeth everyone's getting drilled all holes must be filled and then she took out a pair of nunchucks Knocked out three of my best guys, you know cold she walked over to me without breaking stride She grabbed me by the throat lick the side of my face all slow and creepy like and then she said get scootin toots and Before turning and walking back to her bike she gave me like a weirdo like flicking the balls
Starting point is 01:45:14 Not sure if she's flirting her if there's like a warning or some kind and then I'm not ashamed to say I did as I was told Oh toots scooted. I never saw her again Sorry, that was I don't know what the fuck that was. I just missed two, you know, I want to hear from him. What I meant to say earlier, of course she was in the fucking hells-hattles. Was that for taking a year or so off work to Greve Allen's death, Betty got back at it, acting. From 1983 to 1984, Betty started a mom's family, a spin-off of the Carol Burnett show, which she'd appeared on several times between 1967 and 1978.
Starting point is 01:45:47 We didn't even mention that. It would be tiresome to list out all of her performances. Her IMDB page, that internet movie database, lists almost 500 performance credits. It's fucking unreal. Excuse me, Betty was glad to get back to work because as she said, you spend your work hours pretending to be someone else
Starting point is 01:46:04 which literally forces you out of yourself. The plot of Mama's family revolved around a mother's death and her children's family dynamics afterwards. Betty played the role of Mean Ellen. The audience loved it so much. Betty signed on for seven of the 13 episodes. Betty did not love love her time on the show though because privately she said the timing was just a little too close to my own situation for comfort. 1983 Betty hosts the game show Just Men and she became the first woman to ever win an Emmy for hosting a game show. Betty got the job after receiving a call from Rick Rosner, producer of Hollywood Squares. He wanted a female MC for his new show. Betty even offered host positions in the past but the opportunities always fell through because networks didn't think audiences were ready yet still for a female host.
Starting point is 01:46:48 So Betty was skeptical but went to the meeting anyway and intrigued by the show idea. The show's format was seven celebrity men each episode, writing down their answers to personality based questions. Then two female contestants try to predict these answers. Each girl chooses one of the men and has 60 seconds to ask yes or no questions. Based on what she learned, she tries to guess the response to the original question. If correct, she gets set a keys. Whichever girl has the most car keys by the end of the episode gets to sleep with all the celebrities. It was like a swing or thing. No, they got to pick a car and try to start it.
Starting point is 01:47:18 And if the car started, she got to keep it. And if the car didn't start, Betty White would put a gun to her head and you know, an execute her. Or she would be invited back to try again on the next show. I would play a clip, but it doesn't translate very well. It's just audio. NBC finally approved of a female host of the show, Betty loved doing the show because she enjoyed the game and she was able to walk around, you know, on the show, interact with contestants. The show only lasted 13 weeks. So Grant Tinker, NBC executive hated the show because he didn't like how much he moved around. I saw some of these exact steak. I'm amazed how some of these executives
Starting point is 01:47:49 get into their positions of power. And so the show was canceled. I don't like the way she moves around too much moving. But people love it, sir. I don't care. The moving cancel it. Critics praised white as a host, but you know, it's over. Nineteenth and four CBS fucks up and announces that the situation comedy is dead. No more sitcoms, everybody. NBC is like, what are you talking about? And they produce the Cosby Show, which is a massive hit
Starting point is 01:48:13 because no one knew that Dr. Huxable was a disgusting serial rapist yet. The Cosby Show revives the then-struggling network and their rating skyrocket. That same year, Betty receives a letter from the production company, wit Thomas Harris, about yet another new show. She said, ultimately a script did arrive and now I really started to sit up and pay attention. So many scripts come in and you read them all each time hoping for the best. The majority are less than good,
Starting point is 01:48:37 some bad enough so that the mediocre is a compliment. Now and then it's a delight to find one that shows promise. But this script entitled The Golden Girls, knocked my socks off. In the 1980s and early 90s, yeah, what the fuck am I talking about? Ladies early 90s, Betty started The Golden Girls, which many consider her biggest achievement.
Starting point is 01:48:58 She played Rose Nyland, a sweet naive Norwegian American woman, Hingibangu, from Saint Olaf, Minnesota, which is a real place. They had a fictionalized version of it, and the version of it in the show, it's a real place, a little town of less than 400 people. And she worked with Rue McClanahan,
Starting point is 01:49:15 B Arthur and Estelle Getty. The show starred full four older women and only four older women as it stars, completely fucking unheard of at that time. And it killed, of course. The success of the Golden Girls proved that there was an audience willing to watch older women as it stars completely fucking on her top at that time. And it killed, of course, the success of the Golden Girls proved that there was an audience willing to watch older women on national TV. This is monumental. You know, the time got Golden Girls ran for seven seasons, won
Starting point is 01:49:33 numerous awards, Betty won another Emmy for her work on the show in 1986, outstanding lead actress in a comedy series for its first five seasons, over 30 million people tuned in. Lindsay Nyman-Roe have watched this show, loved it, watched it growing up, loved it then. But it was actually supposed to play the hypersexual blanche, but the casting director recommended she auditioned for Rose instead. She would have killed that other role too. But it was initially disappointed in auditioning for Rose, saying, I was heart sick.
Starting point is 01:50:01 From the script we had read, we knew the strong character of Dorothy and her brutally frank mother Sophia. We understood the lustful blanch, but I hadn't a clue who Rose was. But then Betty received some good advice about Rose from one of the writers, saying she's not dumb, just totally naive. She believes everything she has told and in her innocence always takes the first meaning of every word. Now she had Rose's number and of course she nails it. And here's the quick thing, I love the show so much. In this scene a young girl won't give Rose her teddy bear back.
Starting point is 01:50:30 Fernando had immense sentimental value. Blanche had accidentally sold it in a garage sale. And then the young girl attempted to extort Rose to bribe her for gifts or a bunch of money. And well, here you go. Get the door, Rose. You. Good morning. Well, kid, what do you want? I changed my mind. I was wrong task for all those gifts. Dorothy, you see, I knew she'd come to her senses.
Starting point is 01:50:59 I decided cash is better. That way I can buy exactly what I want. I'll get my purse. No. Blaine, I'm not going to let you do that. Here she is. I've been doing a lot of thinking. And if after all the years of love and companionship, Fernando and I are meant to part company, I'll just have to accept that.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Time to time, life deals you an unfriendly hand. There's nothing you can do about it. I guess there's a lesson to be learned hand. There's nothing you can do about it I guess there's a lesson to be learned here. Sometimes life just isn't fair kiddo. She pushes the girl out the door there at the end and just ripped her teddy bear back and what is so funny about it is that was not in the script In the script it was supposed to end with the with the girl giving Rose back the bear and you can almost kind of see this child actress be like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:51:49 Like as Betty you know, twist her around like she's you know, just come in the front door and start leading her towards the door again and then grabs the bear real quick and then just gives her a hard shove. It looks like she's about to fall down and then slams the door, fucking improv. So good. All those hours doing live TV, you know, or 30 hours a week and improv so much, yet fucking chops.
Starting point is 01:52:10 April 1985, they filmed the Golden Girl pilot live for NBC execs, they love it, so do advertisers. Betty quickly receives a call that they're gonna film the rest of the shows and the Golden Girl's premiere in September of 85. They beat the Cosby show during their first week, staying the top 10 of all sitcoms for five years after that. Betty writes, what came as a big surprise to all concern was the way Golden Girls cut across all the demographic lines. Over half of our
Starting point is 01:52:34 male came from kids, but the 20, 30 and 40 something and beyond were well represented. How was our show able to reach all the age groups? Perhaps because we weren't specifically aiming at any one of them, but mainly I think because we were truly funny. Exactly, funny is funny. Doesn't matter how old you are, what you look like, some comics put out great specials in their 70s, some in their 20s, even in their teens, some attractive, some not attractive, right?
Starting point is 01:52:58 Funny really is funny. Betty won another Emmy in 1986. By the end of the season three, by the end of season three, excuse me, all the actresses, producers, writers, and the director of Golden Girls head Emmys. By season six, the show is moved from the 9 PM to the 8 PM slot, which made the show's ratings drop,
Starting point is 01:53:15 actually, they fell from six place to 10th. Next year, they did fall to 30th. By season seven, everyone knew it's gonna be the last. Be Arthur wanted to move on, the ratings are dropping, no one wants to do the show without Be Arthur. to move on, the ratings are dropping, no one wants to do show without Be Arthur. Before it wraps, the spin-off show is announced. Dorothy would get married and move away. The drama would unfold in a one hour special
Starting point is 01:53:33 that would end the series. And then the spin-off series, the Golden Palace, would begin, don't fucking cheetle. The Golden Palace, by the way, so random. Blanche, Sophia, and Rose would sell the house and buy a small hotel in Miami. In 1992, the Golden Girls finally comes to an end. Betty appears in the one and only season
Starting point is 01:53:48 of the Golden Palace 24 episodes, taped 92 and 93. She said of the spin-off, the show was enjoyable, the reviewers were kind, and the ratings were satisfactory. In other words, Golden Palace was a moderately pleasing show, not a grabber. Betty was disappointed, but not devastated,
Starting point is 01:54:03 when they didn't pick up for a second season. I think what I missed more than the actual show itself was the structure in a fort, as she said. September of 1993, Betty and some other actresses invited by the Chicago Museum of Broadcasting to participate in a seminar on women in broadcasting. And the host asked Betty questions about being a woman in the early days of TV. And the tone was that women were not represented, that they had no voice of their own in the early days of TV. And that, uh, well, pissed, uh, Betty off. She pointed out how many shows in the 50s were about the lives of women, starring women, and some featuring working women. One magazine writer, though, asked her and the other panelists, they're never curting you. What harm you women were doing, portraying these
Starting point is 01:54:41 female stereotypes. And then addressing Betty specifically, she said, in your case, allowing this authoritative voice to dismiss you, I shall leave you Elizabeth. And Betty said, God damn it, lover. Oh, come on, let's not lose our sense of humor altogether. Alvin would walk out simply because he didn't have an answer and was trying to salvage his dignity. And when Elizabeth shook her head at the art he was shamed, she made it abundantly clear that she couldn't wait to do it again.
Starting point is 01:55:05 And next to the next time I'll grant you there have been inequities, but let's not paint everything then and now with the same brush. So glad she said that art and entertainment, right? They don't have to always be about breaking new ground or be subversive to have value. You know, we do emails, you know, from time to time about, I don't read on the show about like, why did I speak about this movement or this crisis or weighing on this, or that cultural hot topic?
Starting point is 01:55:29 Well, sometimes I don't weigh in because that week, I don't feel like dealing with backlash. Sometimes I don't feel educated enough on the issue to speak to it. And sometimes I still fucking want to. Right, it's not my job. My job is primarily to entertain and Betty got that, right? Some people look down at that point of view.
Starting point is 01:55:42 You know, you have a platform, you gotta use it all the time. No, you don't actually. Betty's primary goal was never social justice. Her primary goal was to be good at her job and she was. And for fans like me, that is enough, more than enough. And then some selfish, you know, self-righteous interviewer, dares to say to her, did never occur to you,
Starting point is 01:56:00 that you were harming women, it's like, fuck off. Not everyone has to be a social justice word, 24-7. And if she had pushed too hard early on, I wouldn't be even talking about her now, because she would have never had a career. Sometimes you have to wait to take a shot, like she did when she championed race equality later with tap dance or Arthur Duncan in 1954, right?
Starting point is 01:56:18 Because now she had some clout, now it made sense. Later when she also had clout, she spoke out in support of LGBT rights. Right? Saying if a couple has been together all the time or all that time and there are gay relationships that are more solid than some heterosexual ones, I think it's fine if they want to get married. I don't know how people can get so anti-sumpting. Mind your own business, take care of your affairs and don't worry about other people so much. So, right? Hail Nimrod, Hail Betty Wright. She did speak out, but she picked her battles. Betty later shared more thoughts about the feminist views of the
Starting point is 01:56:49 modern age, saying, after hearing so many questions regarding contending with men over the four going two days, I had to say that in our day, the Battle of the Sexes was a tongue and cheek name for a game show, not the all-out war it has become. For four separate series of shows, I had worked not only as a performer but as a producing partner with two strong men and I was treated and if I was treated as a second class citizen I admit I was too dumb to know it. Without treading on any feminist toes I tried to indicate that that was another time in place and it is species to overlay today's values on where the world was over 40 years ago. I couldn't help wondering out loud how our contemporary television shows and
Starting point is 01:57:27 lifestyles and attitudes would be perceived by some future group of young women. Well said, right? Quite kids, the fucking grownups talking. Species, by the way, means superficially plausible, but actually wrong. I didn't know what that word meant. Important to understand it to get that quote there, because what Betty is saying there is, you know, back in 1993, she's talking about something that seems to be discussed much more today than it was back then, that concept of presentism.
Starting point is 01:57:53 Presentism is a logical and frankly, it's fucking stupid, right? To judge the morality and standards and cultural norms in the past by the morality and standards and cultural norms of the present. Love that she seems as annoyed by people doing that as I get, right? To judge how women pursued roles and careers on TV in the 50s by the standards of the 90s, it's just nonsensical. Uh, I first discussed this concept in this show in the Andrew Jackson episode, right?
Starting point is 01:58:15 If he behaved the way he did in the early 19th century today, would it be a fucking monster? Yeah. Was he a monster by the standards of his time, the early 1800s? No, he wasn't. And some people just can't seem to wrap their heads around logical stuff like that. The years following the Golden Girls wrapped up were considered a period of decline for Betty by many, but that's simply not true. She continued regularly working and guest our roles, even playing herself in several roles. For example, she played herself in the John Laird Ketchow in 96,
Starting point is 01:58:43 one in Emmy that year for her work. 99, she appeared in the successful B-Hor movie Lake Placid at the age of 77, unique role for her. And she accomplished it at an older age. She has one of the best horror movie, like B-Hor movie lines, ever in this film. Her character has just fed a gigantic monster crocodile, a blindfolded cow, after leading into the water's edge. And, well, wait for her final words in this scene, where local cops are confronting her about lying to them earlier. character has just fed a gigantic monster crocodile a blindfolded cow after leading into the water's edge. And well wait for her final words in the scene where local cops are confronting her about lying to them earlier regarding her knowing about the beast their husband used to feed
Starting point is 01:59:14 before he passed away. I haven't broken any laws. What would you have man? You lied to us. That could be an obstruction of justice. The man has been killed in part because of your silence. I have make out a charge of reckless endangerment. I can be obstruction of justice. The man has been killed in part because he's a silas. I have to make out a charge of reckless endangerment.
Starting point is 01:59:27 And I'm sure Peter would be annoyed at how you treat your cows. The reason I lied, if I told you the truth, you'd hunt it down and kill it. It seems to be exactly what you're trying to do. How long have you been feeding this thing? Six years. Six years. Well, Bernie was off fishing and it followed him home. So he threw some scraps, well he didn't seem to bother anybody, he became kind of like a pet who lives in the wild.
Starting point is 01:59:54 He just appeared. You have no idea how he arrived here. No, do you? Now your husband Bernie, you didn't buy any chance to lead him to the lake blindfolded. If I had a dick, this is where I'd tell you to suck it. I love that. If I had a dick, this is where I'd tell you to suck it. That's such a good line delivered so well. But he also worked on David Kelly's Boston legal as a female killer.
Starting point is 02:00:17 She appeared in 16 episodes and she even worked on soap operas like the bold and the beautiful from 2006 to 2009. She definitely kept working after the Golden Girls. There was no big break. She also appeared on that 70s show in 2002 and 2003, playing Kitty Foreman's Mom. Betty was now in her early 80s, still able to memorize over 40 pages of dialogue and short time. Besides to work on screen, Betty was involved in several notable organizations.
Starting point is 02:00:41 She worked with the LA Zoo Morris animal foundation for over 40 years 2006 is due named her ambassador to the animals. She donated countless amounts of money to the American Humane's association and fun for animals Betty said in an interview. I'm actually the luckiest old broad alive half my life is working in a profession I love and the other half is working with animals Betty said towards the end of her long life that she had to keep working to support her animal causes She also wrote books during the 80s 90s in 87 she wrote Betty White in person a book of reflections on lessons learned over long and successful life 95 she wrote the autobiography here we go again one of the main sources for this episode the source of a lot of her quotes She also wrote two more books later in her career In 2009 at the age of 87 Betty started the proposal with Sandra Bullock and Ryan Reynolds.
Starting point is 02:01:27 Numerous critics that she stole the show is Ryan's grandma, his character's grandma. And that role introduced Betty to a new generation of comedy fans. And then the next year, 2010, she started a hugely popular snickers commercial that aired during the Super Bowl for the first time. So fucking funny. Bunch of guys playing tackle football in the mud. One of them is Betty White and sweatpants, right? Running a cross route.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Running right over the middle to get it's fucking clobbered. Then back in the huddle, here's what she says. Mike, what's your deal, man? Come on, man. You've been riding me all day. You're playing like Betty White out there. Ask out what your girlfriend said. Baby.
Starting point is 02:02:01 You snickers. You snickers. I had none, of course. You know, turns into a regular guy. After that video, I feel Oh, my God. You snickers. You snickers. I had none, of course, you know, turns into a regular guy. After that video, I feel like commercial and viral. There was rumors about a sex tape of Betty White with the love of her life, Alan Lundin, not kidding. This is not the life inside Elizabeth's shit.
Starting point is 02:02:18 She was annoyed by the rumors, which had persisted for years apparently. Her agent finally released a statement saying, this has come up over the years. People claiming they have photos of Betty and Alan, simply not true. And Betty is laughing. She can't believe people are still talking about this. If you look online, it does appear that she posed nude in several picks back when she
Starting point is 02:02:34 was 21. And they are good deepfakes if they're fake, which reputable sites say they are. I don't know, maybe she had posed nude for some pictures and I was embarrassed. I don't know, maybe these pictures, if they're real, you know, tamed by today's standards, but racy back then. And if it's her, ho ho hot damn Betty. Oh, hello, Suspina. Uh, now for another big career moment, 2010, huge year for Betty.
Starting point is 02:02:55 She stars in hot and Cleveland, a show starring Valerie Burton, Ellie Jane Leaves and Wendy Malik. Uh, began that year with last year 2015. And she would appear in a hundred and 24 out of the total of 125 episodes. She was 93 by the time it wrapped. But she was only supposed to the pilot, but she loved it so much she wanted to stay
Starting point is 02:03:14 and they let her stay because she's Betty fucking white. She played Elka, caretaker of a home rented by three women. She'd been nominated for another Emmy, 2011, Winner Screen Actors Guild Award in 2013 at the age 91 for outstanding performance by a female actor in a comedy series.
Starting point is 02:03:29 Backing up a bit to May of 2010, Betty's invited to host Saturday Night Live, making her the oldest host ever at age 88. A man from Austin, Texas, who saw that Snickers Super Bowl ad started a Facebook campaign to get Betty on the show and it worked. She was so good in it, you can find clips online. She rehearsed all week for SNL, experienced terrible stage fright. Told her agent she had never
Starting point is 02:03:49 done anything as intense or would never do anything as intense as SNL again. I love that. She said in 2018 documentary, Betty White, First Lady of Television, stage fright is uncomfortable in all that, but it's a lifesaver because the panic that sets in, you've got to counter. You've got to get a handle on that in order to do what you're doing. So the stage fright is what puts the edge, I think, on a performance. And then Betty later said, that was the scariest thing I've ever done.
Starting point is 02:04:13 It was really funny stuff, but it was a challenge. Man, I guess it never goes away. I still get a stage fright often. Flare is a prebi-forego on stage. The two minutes before, I feel fine, up until two minutes before I go on stage. And then oftentimes I get super, super nervous and just think I'm gonna forget how to do stand up.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Uh, thank God actually, because when I don't, on the rare times, I don't worry about the show. And I think, I've got this. And I don't go through my normal, like, you know, frenetic, you know, hectic nervous kind of pre-show prep, that's when the show's flat and not as good. Betty won an Emmy for her SNL performance, outstanding guest actress and a comedy series. In 2011, she won a Grammy,
Starting point is 02:04:50 best spoken word album for a reading of her book. If you ask me and of course you won't, she beat out Tina FaZe reading of her book, Bossy Pants. That year she appeared in the movie The Lost Valentine, is Caroline Thomas, a widow whose husbands remains are located and shipped for burial. She starred alongside Jennifer Love Hewitt, considered by some to be her best dramatic performance. I watched a little bit. Yeah, it's a tear to her. At age 89, so inspiring. Still not done.
Starting point is 02:05:14 From 2012 to 2017, when not filming hot in Cleveland, for the first few years, Betty hosted Betty Whites off their rockers. A hidden camera show where elderly people play pranks on younger counterparts. See, another fucking Emmy nomination, and it is great, way darker than I expected. Just audio from the show doesn't do it justice. I won't play any, but I was like, oh, okay. It's first two seasons, we're on NBC. The network she had started working for back in 1954.
Starting point is 02:05:41 Also in 2012, Betty celebrated her 90th birthday with a TV special, Mary Tyler Moore, Carl Reiner, Tina Fey, and Asner, many others honor her. February of 2013, Betty's Q-score, her likability quotient, it's a scale measuring the popularity of a person, or thing, typically based on dividing an assessment of familiarity by an assessment of favorable opinion, and it was the highest of anyone in America, literally the most well-liked celebrity in America. She attributed her popularity to being in people's homes on TV for over 70 years.
Starting point is 02:06:13 She just, you know, I believe TV has a different feeling than the big screen because of the intimate home setting. In August 2018, PBS airs Betty White, first lady of television, to celebrate her 80 year career. One of Betty's last in-person appearances is during the 2018 Emmy awards telecast. In 2019 Betty still working at 97 joins the cast of Toy Story 4 to voice a tiger name Bidy White. And then on December 31st 2021 Betty White passes away in her home in Brentwood
Starting point is 02:06:42 California 99 years old just over two weeks away from celebrating her hundredth birthday The New York Times wrote Betty White who created two of the most memorable characters in sitcom history the Nympho Moniacle Su-Suin Niven or Nivens on the Maritime Moreshow and the sweet but dim Rose Nyland on the Golden Girls and who kept her long career with the comeback That included a triumphant appearance as the host of Saturday Night Live at the age of 88, died on Friday at her home in Los Angeles. She was 99. Jeff Witches, Betty's friend and agent confirmed her death to news outlets.
Starting point is 02:07:15 Many noted that Betty was the last of the Golden Girls to pass away. She'd outlive the rest by a decade or more, a still getty passed in 2008, BR3R in 2009, Rue McClanahan, 2010. Betty suffered a stroke on December 25th. Her death certificate lists her cause of death
Starting point is 02:07:29 as a zero-brovascular accident. Her remains cremated on January 7th, 2022, given to Glenn Kaplan, the man in charge of her advanced healthcare directive at the time of her death. Not clear whether Glenn was just a medical professional to Betty or a friend. Her death certificate lists her legal name as Betty Marion Lutton, right? Mrs. Allen Lutton, that love of her life. Not clear at this time what has been done with her ashes. And on January 17th, 2022, Betty White, a celebration premiered in select theaters across the country. She's supposed to be
Starting point is 02:08:00 there to celebrate her 100th birthday, but the movie was edited as a memorial piece instead. Now let's hop on out of that long, uh, very fun, I hope, timeline. Good job, soldier. You've made it back. Barely. So Betty White, huh? Damn, she lived a lot of life. We're an amazing touching and inspiring story. She was born on January 17th, 1922 in Oak Park, Illinois. Then her family moved to LA, where she was a toddler, when she was a toddler, during
Starting point is 02:08:35 Betty's childhood, inventors working hard on their early television patents. By 1939, Betty's high school graduation year, modern TV, in its earliest stages. Betty, by that point, knew she wanted to be a performer, she'd participated in theater in high school, even wrote a graduation play, and then Betty's performance in her high school graduation ceremony got her an invitation to participate in a broadcast at the old Packard Building in downtown LA.
Starting point is 02:08:57 Her first performance on television, from that moment on, Betty knew what she was meant to be a performer. After volunteering in World War II, and leaving her first husband, Betty truly started to focus on her career as an actress. She worked with the theater program, performing various plays, which got the attention of her second husband, Agent Lane Allen. A determined young Betty went out every day to speak to casting directors then. One day she finally got an opportunity, a one-word line in a par-k commercial.
Starting point is 02:09:22 Only up from there for Betty, started earning more and more roles in radio shows. Her work on Grab Your Phone, her first game show got the attention of Disjockey Al Jarvis. Jarvis needed someone for his new show Hollywood on television. Betty went on to work for five days a week, for five and a half hours, at a time with Jarvis. That opportunity to launch her career taught Betty everything she knew about TV. Hollywood on television so successful to add it an extra half hour,
Starting point is 02:09:43 an extra day on air a week Betty became a national TV personality so successful she got her own show the Betty White show her career success Would lead to the end of her second marriage Lane Allen not interested in marrying a career woman and Betty Wouldn't give up her career for anyone. They loved each other, but wanted different things in life 1952 Betty founded her own production studio bandyandy Productions, with Don Fetterson and George Tipples. Produced to show life with Elizabeth, starring herself and Del Moore, but he was one of the first female producers in the nation. Her show was important because it featured
Starting point is 02:10:12 an intelligent, independent woman working to solve problems in a marriage. The show further launched Betty to start him. After life with life with Elizabeth was date with the angels, a show that featured a female fantasy, or female fantasies every episode. Betty's sponsor was headed to the show called it aggressively feminine. The Angels, a show that featured a female fantasy or female fantasies every episode. Betty sponsored her to the show called it aggressively feminine.
Starting point is 02:10:28 It was not. They were just aggressively show vanisting back then. After this, Betty joined the tonight show with Jack Parr. She appeared on the show over 70 times and became a famous guest. In the 60s, Betty primarily focused on game shows with password being her most well-known. It was on password that she met Alan Ludden, her third husband and the love of her life. They married in 1963 and spent years working on password together until his death in 1981. In the 70s, Betty worked on the Mary Tyler Moore show, now considered a classic.
Starting point is 02:10:58 Her character, Suanne Nivens, showed a different side to Betty. It was witty and sex positive. In the 80s, Betty played one of the most famous roles in the history of her career. Rose Nylent on the Golden Girls. Golden Girls ran for seven seasons. That show broke generational borders, proved that older women could be just as successful
Starting point is 02:11:14 as anyone else in the TV industry. After Golden Girls many believed her career went into a period of decline, not true. She continued working on TV shows and movies, continued her work for animal charities. 2010 and especially successful career year for Betty, when she was 88, after doing a Snickers commercial, she was invited to host Saturday Night Live. She set another record, oldest host in the show's history.
Starting point is 02:11:35 Then she went on the star in the show Hot and Cleveland, and Betty White's off their rockers. She continued working until the very end with plans for a televised, 100th birthday celebration in January of 2022. But she didn't quite make it. Maybe the only job she didn't show up for. She passed away December 31, 2021 at her home in Brentwood. She lived a life that most people could only dream of characterized by hard work, determination
Starting point is 02:11:56 and perseverance. I'm so glad our Patreon Space Lichers voted it in to be a weekly show. It was a joy to work on the research this week. Let's revisit a few more Betty White facts, learn one more new fact in today's top five takeaways. Time suck, top five takeaway. Number one, Betty White technically first appeared on TV in 1939 as part of an experimental broadcast
Starting point is 02:12:22 of the Mary Widow. The broadcast only transmitted through six floors, but this opportunity helped Betty determine that she wanted to work in television. Number two, Betty's first big opportunity came a decade later, 1949, when she was working as the co-host of the show, Hollywood on television, hosted by Al Jarvis.
Starting point is 02:12:38 At one point, Betty worked six days a week, five and a half hours straight, loved every minute of it. The opportunity put her in a few million people's homes, hour after hour, day after day for several years. She became a part of people's families. And this helped her become a major TV personality and later helped her sustain an incredibly long career.
Starting point is 02:12:57 Number three, Betty White founded her own production company in 1952, Bandy Productions. Producer first show in 1953, Life with Elizabeth. Betty's role as business owner, producer and leading actress was revolutionary for women at the time, and proved that they could be just as successful as men. Her show was a hit, further broadened her horizons. Her horizons, excuse me. Number four, Betty met her third husband
Starting point is 02:13:19 and a love of her life, Alan Luddon, on a game show. Luddon worked as the host of Password for over 20 years. He and Betty were married for almost 18. And number five, new info, Vicki Lawrence, Betty's co-star on the Carol Burnett show in a lifetime friend, said that Betty's last word on Earth, what's her husband's name?
Starting point is 02:13:36 Allen. She received that info from Betty's assistant, Kirsten Meekalus, who is there in the final minutes of Betty's life, holy fucking shit. That, and I can lie, that mess with my allergies, pretty hard. When I came across that, that's, that's real love. If you find a love like that, never let it go. I'm lucky to have found out myself with the Queen of Suck. When Betty was asked by James
Starting point is 02:13:56 Lipton on Inside the Actor's Studio that should have an exist, what would she like to say to God, or rather have God say to her when she walks to the pearly gates, she replied, come on in Betty, here's Alan. God dang. What if she did see him at the end? Well, that's why she said his name. What if his spirit came for her as she passed? Maybe why not believe in that possibility, right? I know we can't prove she liked that, but I certainly hope was real.
Starting point is 02:14:26 Betty, white power has been sucked. I mean, tough, five, take away. Betty Whitepower has been sucked. I mean, Betty White. I had to say one last time. Betty White has been sucked. Love this episode. Thanks again for voting in Space Luzards. And thanks to the Bad Magic Productions team. Thanks to Queen of Bad Magic, Lindsey Cummins for being my very own Alan Luddon.
Starting point is 02:14:41 Thanks to Reverend Dr. Joe Paisley for production. Thanks to Bitelixer for upkeep on the TimeSuck app. Login the art warlock Keith, createin the merch at BadMagicMurts.com. And for one of the socials with Lizzie and Chantras Hernandez. Thanks to the All-Seeing Eyes moderating the cult to the Curious Private Facebook page. Thanks to Beavestake and his mod squad running Discord. And thanks to producer Olivia Lee again for her initial research on this episode. Next week, let's get real weird. Let's get cult, cult, cult. And let's talk a lot about aliens. Let's talk about the Rayleans, a cult of sorts claiming to believe that humans were created by advanced
Starting point is 02:15:17 alien scientists called the Elohim. Elohim told the Rayleans that they're supposed to help change humanity for their scheduled UFO landing sometime in 2035. the railings that they're supposed to help change humanity for their scheduled ufl landing sometime in twenty thirty five so fuck yeah almost here uh... maybe the show this year right maybe the show early uh... it feels like a good year for them to aliens to show up uh... railings are super sex positive health all sorts of progressive ideas to
Starting point is 02:15:39 make you know some good sense also have some uh... weird ideas like how they think they're founder leader and profit half. Half man, half alien is a, Riehl, my tria. So weird that they think he's a half alien profit. His title sounds impressive and in reality, he's a former French car racing enthusiast and wannabe rock star. Echoes of father Yod. Who just really wants to be worship and fuck a lot. The group, not like most of the culture religious movements we've covered, the railings in their company, Clone Aid. We met some of them in the celebrity cloning conspiracy suck, claimed to have successfully cloned human, you know, Eve in December of 2000, they didn't, they claimed, they cloned
Starting point is 02:16:17 a bunch of other people, they didn't, and they've claimed a lot of other well shit. And next week we're going to meet them, try to find out, you know, why they're so obsessed with extraterrestrials, how many of them are there? What's their mission? What did aliens scientists, why did aliens scientists choose, uh, Rial to be the new prophet after previously choosing Jesus, Buddha, and Muhammad? I look forward to getting crazy with you all next week here on TimeSuck. Uh, our world is a lot of things. It is, uh, it's never boring. Uh, now let's head on over to this week's Time Sucker updates. Updates, get your time, sucker updates.
Starting point is 02:16:54 Let's kick things off with a message of support, I guess, for Alex Jones, who I aggressively shit on last week, educated, open-minded, and veteran, super-sucker, Jason Pierce writes. Mr. Comas, I feel compelled to defend Alex Jones a bit. Maybe some of his personal, as I feel attacked, like I'm some flaming dipshit, or whatever you said about his listeners. I have a master's degree, I have professional license and counseling and an unnamed state.
Starting point is 02:17:18 I spend my professional time talking to others about cognitive distortions, intrusive thoughts, logic fallacies, they used to justify bad behavior, shit like that. I made it through a 20-year military career, have kids, house, wife, stuff, you know, savings account, investments. I consider myself a practical guy, yet I am a sucker for Alex Jones and here's why. Now I found Alex when I was in the military and lived in Turkey for a couple years between 2007 and 2009. I used to tune into Alex frequently because of shift work and I had a lot of time on my hands so I listened to lots of podcasts and his was one.
Starting point is 02:17:46 I liked the three or four hour shows as he would dive deep into topics. Your heart on Alex and most of it rightfully so, however, you can't discount that guy. He was wrong on Sandy Hook. He has come out and said he was drinking a lot during that time of his life and he made a huge mistake. He's apologized many times for this. It's wrong. He doesn't have to be forgiven and you are allowed to hate him but we all make mistakes.
Starting point is 02:18:04 Some of them are egregious, but mistakes, even several, should not completely define a person. You should understand he was talking about the NSA building giant facilities to suck up your data back in 2007 in that time frame. He was ranting about how your home appliances would connect to the internet and spy on you, snowed and released this info some four or six years later in its common knowledge these days. Alexa, we most switches, smart bulbs, smart TVs, your Apple phone, listening into targeted advertisements, God knows what else or four targeted advertisements. You mocked him about the pedophile rings and he has been wrong on some of these issues, but he was talking about fuck Island, powerful world leaders, world leaders and Epstein a decade ago, including how Bill Clinton and
Starting point is 02:18:41 Epstein were buddies. He brought to light agent provocateurs in Seattle, turned out to gay frog thing was off target, but true in a sense pesticides can change frog sex. He was talking about tower seven when nobody else was covered on 9-11 and some people thought that that was a conspiracy. We know that the building fell, however, why I don't know. He openly discussed Gulf of Tonkin, which I would have never heard about. That sure as shit wasn't taught in history. There's no false flag lessons in school. The UAE makes it rain once a week to CIA admits to trying to weaponize weather modification technology. This was nutter butter conspiracy stuff a few years ago,
Starting point is 02:19:13 but he was covering it. He ran through about the elite using baby blood to prolong their life. There are scientific articles that have been coming out in the mainstream lately about the possible benefits of this. Some of the COVID vaccine conspiracy that he was ranting about is already slowly leaking out
Starting point is 02:19:26 that some of the vaccines enter the liver cells and alter the DNA. This is from a recent Swiss study. Let's hope he was as wrong about COVID vaccines as he was about Sandy Hook. I mean, it isn't like Pfizer paid the largest criminal fine in history or that viox ever existed. Lastly, don't forget Bohemian Grove.
Starting point is 02:19:41 That would make an interesting suck. The problem with Alex Jones is he's a poor communicator. He screams, gets angry, says that Hillary Clinton smells like sulfur, and that they are trying to kill the whole world. If you can parse through ranting and raving and exaggerations, much of the information that he puts out is uncomfortably true. As far as supplements, yeah, they're probably bullshit. Can't defend that, but everyone's selling their own supplements and coffee for some reason.
Starting point is 02:20:00 That's a big one. Anyway, that's all. Love the show and keep hammering, hail Nimrod, hellbojangangles, Helus of Phoenix. Well, thank you, Jason. And yeah, thank you for your service. And as much as I hate to admit it, yeah, you do bring up some good points, right? It would take too long for me to dissect them all properly today, but yes, he was sharing some alarming info before it was common knowledge in some cases. And yeah, and that does have some value. I can't disagree with that. I just still think the bad outweighs the good with him. And yeah, and that does have some value. I can't disagree with that. I just still think the bad outweighs the good with him.
Starting point is 02:20:27 And here's why, you are educated. You seem like you have strong critical thinking skills. You can weed out good info from bad. You're clearly looking into what he's talking about in a critical thinking manner, but is the majority of his audience doing that? I don't think so at all. I think too many accept a lot of what he says is truth.
Starting point is 02:20:44 And I think as a businessman, he knows it's good for business to share really extreme ideas and push society into more and more distrust of the government and science, which leads directly to insane shit, like harassing the parents of murder victims and the QAnon conspiracy, capitol riot stuff. So I'm gonna have to agree to disagree
Starting point is 02:21:01 on his value overall, but I really like the email you sent it. Have a great week. Keep on fact checking. Me included. Nimrod loves well-written descent. Makes me think more than agreement does. Now an update on the 2017 Las Vegas shooting from the brother of someone who is there.
Starting point is 02:21:17 Kick ass sack Tyler Smeltz writes, suck master. I've emailed him before, usually opening with the joke or something clever to get you laughing not today, bro Before I get into it my buddy Matt and I served in the army together He's a friend brother and someone I'll gladly give my life for here's a story And thank you for your service as well Matt told our whole group that he was going to the concert We were all excited for him told him to send pics when I woke up the morning after the shooting I checked my phone and I had 60 missed texts and calls, all asking the same question where the fuck is Matt?
Starting point is 02:21:46 I called out of work, kept calling his phone for three hours until he picked up. I didn't care, I needed to know my brother was okay. He finally answered, my lungs sank into my chest, all I could ask bro what happened, this is what he told me. He said bro, it was crazy, bodies dropping, blood everywhere. I didn't know what to do until immediately everything we were taught and trained all just kicked in. I shielded a 19 year old in the ground with my body as the bullets were still flying.
Starting point is 02:22:06 At the break, I told her to run, don't stop. Then my buddy and I went to the hospital. We didn't give the doctors a chance. We got to the hospital 1130 that night, didn't leave until six in the next morning, walked out with blood all over my clothes. None of it was mine. My brother got the equivalent of the Medal of Honor for civilians for his acts at the shooting. If you look through the pictures and see a blonde short hair man wearing a maroon shirt,
Starting point is 02:22:25 shielding a young woman in the ground, that's Matt. I have seen that pick. A suck master, not even a little star for this email. My brother's a hero, and he's never wanted anything from anyone. Because in his words, I did what anyone with our training would do. Love your show, 5 out of 5 stars, Sitch. Well, Sitch, thank you very much for sharing your brother's story and, you know, your friend's a hail mat, man.
Starting point is 02:22:46 Doesn't sound like a crisis actor to me or a deep state puppet. Sounds like a fucking hero. The kind you crane are producing in mass right now, also, by the way. So thank you again, Sitch. Now another message from another kickass meat sack who knew someone who died in that shooting. Mark Lassman writes, yo captain suck. I just listened to the latest suck in the Las Vegas shooting. And I want to give a big F you to the conspiracy nuts out there who think it was a fake. One of the girls I graduated high school with killed
Starting point is 02:23:12 was killed in that shooting. Well, I didn't know her well enough to call her a friend. I remember her being a kind and caring meat sack. I knew that she had a life and that her family and a close friends are most definitely not crisis actors with made up lives and backstories. This year's our 20 year reunion. I know that those who were close to her will mourn again without her there. I can't think of anything harder than losing someone you love, especially a child, but then to have these critical thinkers, quote unquote, calling you up and terrorized you over nonsense would make the loss more than anyone should have to endure.
Starting point is 02:23:40 Shame on them. I mean, Nimrod smite them as only he can. Thanks for educating the masses and keeping his curious three three out of five stars. No complaints Mark. Thank you. Thank you, Mark. Exactly too far, man. Never harassed the victims of a mass tragedy. Even if you don't think it actually happened just bitch to your friends about it. Don't go after anyone ever for thinking they're a crisis actor. If that was even somehow true, well, I guess they wouldn't care if you went after them. Would they? I mean, they were just playing a part, just an actor, just a job. Now a message from obvious deep state puppet Vanessa Wolfe, who writes,
Starting point is 02:24:11 Hey Dan, in the whole bad magic team, this week's suck hit closer to home than many because my sister was at the concert when the shooting happened. Herner husband were celebrating him getting a home from a tour of duty with the army, just to be greeted with violence. Me and my mom were on the phone all night updating each other waiting to hear from her. Finally the next morning we hear from them. Thankfully they're completely fine but so shaken up and doing what they could to help all night. My sister's a nurse for husband being military. They help people get out and patch up small wounds of the people who got out with them. It was
Starting point is 02:24:40 hard to see all the crazy bullshit that came out after but unfortunately people want terrible events to be fake just so it's not real, I guess. But also, fuck Alex Jones and hail Nimrod. Thank you guys for everything you do. More tales of heroism, right? Man, the world really is full of so many great, brave, wonderful people. Sometimes too much news or too many true crime podcasts episodes can lead to us for getting that.
Starting point is 02:25:03 Thank you Vanessa for reminding us. Yeah, that there are heroes out there and you, uh, you know some of them. Speaking wonderful, let's end on a victory. Uh, kind and caring sack, Seth Parker writes, hey Dan, so I couldn't think of any witty silliness right now. I'll keep it short as I can. I was writing an ask a favor. I've been listening to time sucks since 2017 and all other bad magic podcasts since their induction. One day a few years ago, we'll have a discussion, read rant, with my mom about how to show a few people who have critical thinking skills. I mentioned the podcast, she asked me about it. After answering her questions, she decided to listen, she's been hooked ever since, and
Starting point is 02:25:36 it gives us something to talk and laugh about together. Fast forward to last month, after struggling with weird blood issues, doctors thought we're linked to the vaccine, it was discovered that the real problem was she has acute lymphoblastic leukemia. As I've already read this message, she has just concluded her first of eight rounds of chemo and is totally kicking its ass. Just wanted to ask if you could give her a shout out on the show where name is Karen, I know LOL, and I know would make her day and give her something to smile about as she starts this long fight against stupid fucking cancer.
Starting point is 02:26:04 If you can't, no worries. I'll put it ahead to try. Thank you for pushing us meat sacks to think critically and showing me not the only person who still uses their brains, praiseable jangles. Well, praiseable jangles, Seth, and Hail Karen. Demand to talk to that cancer manager, Karen, and just keep kicking it in the fucking nuts.
Starting point is 02:26:19 Channel somebody white, tenaciously do all your treatment just as they instruct, get all your rest just as they instruct eat, get all your rest, eat well, meditate, I don't know, masturbate, whatever makes you feel good and keeps your spirits up. Get to DJ, Karen. Hale all of you. You beautiful bastards. Thanks again for listening to another Bad Magic Productions podcast, Meet Sex. Go to something great this week. Love big, work hard. Don't tell yourself you're too old or, you know, whatever you're trying to accomplish is too difficult.
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