Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 3 - The Big One

Episode Date: October 3, 2016

Your chances of dying in "the big one" Southern California earthquake are roughly the same as of being shot and killed by a toddler according to a study cited by the LA Times. Is it even scientifically possible for a giant earthquake to cause LA to fall into the sea? Are there a lot of trigger happy babies out there? Find out all this and more as the show's first guest, Jacob Kubon, and Dan break down the origins and possibility of the giant earthquake legend.

There's a 75% chance that before 2020, the largest earthquake North America is ever known with the San Andreas fault causing Los Angeles, Orange County, San Diego. Part of San Francisco to slip in the Pacific Ocean, killing over 60 million people and reducing the size of the U.S. by over 10% said no legitimate scientist ever. Why is America fascinating with the big one? And is a catastrophic quake in Southern California actually scientifically possible? Special guest, Jacob Kuban, joins me on this ground rumbling earth moving edition of TimeSuck. Alright, so I'm going to start off Jacob. This is, thanks for being here, by the way.

Oh, yes, thanks for having me. For sure. Jacob, come on. Very funny comic and very talented graphic illustrator as well, graphic artist. Actually, the guy who did the design the logo with the help of Brian Smith. Brian Smith, for the time suck and doing the website. Much better illustrator than I am, but you get the graphic skills. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And this is, this topic popped up for me a couple days ago. I was actually talking to my wife, Lindsay, about having you on and just things we were talking about. And somehow, like, the big one came up. She'd heard some article about it. And this is something I've heard about from my mom, when I first moved out to California, like she was legitimately concerned

that living in Southern California, I would be swept out to sea. Right, like there would be, have you heard people talk about the big one? Yeah, oh yeah. It's gonna fall into the ocean, Pacific, I've heard about it my whole life. I like that though, just being swept out makes me think

you're just gonna get grabbed by a wave though instead of. Yeah, yeah. The earthquake happening. Right, right, right, like it'll be, like I'll be grabbed by a wave though instead of the earthquake happening. Right, right, right. Like it'll be like I'll be walking on this sidewalk and about some sneaker wave. Yeah, yeah. We'll come up several miles inland and just snag me.

She's grabbing me. Oh man, I'm almost right. I should have paid attention. But um, so, so, and Lindsay has this belief too. She said she's reading something about it and you know, there's all these talk of like, you know, crazy catastrophic death and Arizona will be on the West Coast. I've heard these like Arizona Bay was like this bill hits Abbey. But all this crazy stuff, my mom and a variety of people have, my wife have been concerned

over. And I've literally traveling around the States, you know, in taxis or Ubers or town cars or whatever, and you bring up ALA, live in LA, I've had several people say like, oh man, I couldn't live there because of the, you know, eventually. Every day I would be terrified. This big earthquake is going to happen and it's going to take you out to sea. Yeah. So I started doing some research on the web about like, is this even scientifically

possible? Yeah. Just started there. That beginning, you had me freaked out with the statistics. Would it just be my percentage? I tried to make this stats sound real. And the opening. It did, it freaked me out. And then, hopefully you, yeah.

Yeah, I said there was a 75% chance before 2020. I love playing with stats. Yeah. It's like a fine, it's like an art where you can't make it like there's a 99 percent. You got to drop it down a little bit. But if you go below 50, then it's not as scary. And then you get to give the year like 2020 like, oh man, it's not like tomorrow, but it's coming quick. I feel like I could be like a good like Doomsday Profit. I can get the numbers believable enough people to be like, gosh, we got to people

stop and actually read signs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to hear this guy out his percentages are just off the chain. 78%. So, so I looked this up, I looked this up and I started with a, you know, I tried to find legitimate websites. Science.howstuffworks.com has this scientific explanation of why it can't happen. It says, well, the big one would definitely would wreak mass destruction. It would not sink part of California into the ocean, nor would it break off from the rest of the country. This comes from like a misunderstanding of seismic forces.

And basically, it's like a powerful earthquake that occur frequently in the West Coast, but it's because these tectonic plates, they're rubbing together and they're pushed up against each other. Yeah, they're shifting, but like, millimeters a year, maybe on some plates, a meter or something a year, but very slowly. And then one will kind of go other and it'll cause pressure and then the pressure will cause an earthquake when it kind of snaps back into place a little bit. But it doesn't just break off and just slide away.

That's not how the earth itself works. It's not a cookie. Right, right. It's like, where is it going? I lost it. It didn't look. Where is it going to fall? It's not like where there's this thin tiny layer of crust

that can just be completely submerged in the ocean. And that's what they say. They say that many scientists estimate there's not enough tension built up along some locked California faults. Oh, that there is enough tension, but it's like, when they finally slip, the earthquake will be extremely powerful.

But that break off is just a scientific impossibility. You know, it's like, it just, it cannot happen. It's like a big chunk of ice that like a certain Is in you it politically correct? Yeah, I think yeah, where they put their old people. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, Santa Montedai on the iceberg. Yeah, they just slowly floats away like right the world is just gonna watch California Just goodbye Los Angeles Yeah, like it's gonna magically float for a while and then sink like some weird movie some dramatic You know, there's nothing underneath the crust of the earth like we're just we're actually just floating

Mm-hmm. They'll bring the rock back by San Andreas too and as he floats out and to see So I looked it up on even more websites and this one I really trust this is earthquake dot USGS dot gov So this is United States geological survey So I feel like I don't trust all government workers like certain politicians, but geologists, I don't know what agenda they would have. Yeah, I was going to say they don't really have much of a reason. No, to falsify it. So they say, they're safe fiction. It can't fall into the ocean. And I like their explanation. So the ocean is not a great hole into which California can fall,

but is itself land at somewhat lower elevation with water above it? Like, yeah, exactly. It is absolutely impossible, they say, that California will be swept out to sea. Instead, the southwestern California is moving horizontally northward towards Alaska as it slides past central and eastern California. The dividing point is the San Andreas fault system, which extends from the salt and sea. The 800 mile long fault is the boundary between the Pacific plate and the North American plate. And the Pacific plate is moving like Northward with respect to North American plate at approximately 46 millimeters, two inches per year. The rate your fingernails grow. At this rate, LA and San Francisco will one day, about 15 million years from now

being next to our neighbors and an additional 70 million years LA residents will find themselves within Alaska zip code so like things are moving 70 million is that what you said? Yeah 70 million years from now. That's far far far longer than all history life This is coming up. It's coming up. It's coming up and there's more things. It just says nonsense You know like the conservation dot CA.gov, a California government website Back's up that it can't sink again and I just can't and the ground can't open up and swallow people Because that's what people picture to with the people right the picture this giant fall is gonna open up into like into where yeah Into like the the hollow earth. You're gonna turn a corner and just fall in to the earth fall into the earth

Like they're like it can't do that. So I just love them being like, we have you want me to write this up? I got to write up that this is impossible. Yeah, you know, we've had a lot of people calling in. We're this. They're really worried about it. Everybody's really worried if you could just write

something up for us. Well, I mean, and it is though crazy. Like, people just believe stuff. Like, things get passed around and these urban myths grow. And then people just without ever researching it, just take it as fact. You know, just like, well, it could. And it's like, well, how could it?

Ah, well. It things happen. The wrong. You see, yeah, you see, we've seen San Andreas. I smell what he's cooking. Where's he going on? But, but that, so that one, it really got me thinking. I'm like, where did this come from?

Like where did this urban myth come from? Like how did it, how did that rumor get started? And I think I found it. I did a lot of digging and I think I found the source, which I find crazy, but not crazy, I guess because people will believe weird stuff. You got to the core of it. I got to the core.

Well played, we got to the core of this earthquake dilemma. There is, when you start researching like California falling into the sea and start googling and like, why? And you go several pages in, pass the science articles. I can't get over it. Yeah, yeah, you go several pages in. Then you start getting the fringe websites that are pro. Like I searched, you know searched for hours, many, many websites, all the scientific ones are basically like, no, you fucking idiot.

Like it's, have you done understand? It's like, did you hear yourself ask this question? That's like falling into the sea, like there's one article I found, the plate of the tectonic plates are, like 40 kilometers thick or something, there's several miles thick. And the ocean's only a couple miles deep. It's like trying, California falling into the ocean, or sliding into the ocean, is like if you had three inches of water in a mud puddle,

and you're trying to submerge a couch. You're trying to get the whole couch underwater. It's like it doesn't make any fucking sense if you just know rudimentary science. Yeah, well, you can drown in two inches of water. Lord works in a serious way. Okay, buddy. You take your science and you shove it up your science hole. You've got a double out of water. You hear about the arc. And I made that reference because it is, it's Christian fundamentalism is apparently what I think is the source, because you start digging

and then you find all these articles about how California how the big one could come and there's gonna be crazy fires and floods and California falls into the ocean. All of it that I found goes back to one source and it's called Joe Brandt's Dream is a source, like some silly prophecy from the 60s. I mean, it's a dream. It's a dream. It's literally a dream.

There's got this guy, Joe Brant, who apparently had a dream when he was 17 and 37, and he told this lady, Jessica Madigan, who published his dream in this, like a Christian newsletter called Living Waters. And this is in 1969 in Living Waters. Living Waters. That's when she released it.

She said he had the dream in 37. He had the dream in 37, didn't tell anybody for years, kept it all written down. And his deathbed. That is dream one time. Yeah, that's a dream one time. And then years later, it's interviewed by this,

by this Christians, like kind of self publishing author, like a very friend's author, Okay. Who published under the name of Mailing and Jessica Madigan. So already like, huh? I looked her up, this Jessica lady, here are some of her books. Jessica to Mailing.

Exactly, it's a weird double. Why would you, it's a word? It's a very Caucasian name, very Asian name. Well, the Asians are very wise. Right, they'll believe me more. And maybe, or maybe she's a, maybe she really is Asian. I couldn't figure out. And maybe she chose the white sounding name to,

I don't know, thinking she could spread her word more in 1960s America. Oh, so her name, what is it, Kathleen? What is it? It's either Jessica Madigan or my Ling. Okay, so we don't know which round. Who's the real name? What's the real name?

Yeah, I did find on Amazon and some other places, there's a list of her books. Most of what you can't find, most of which they're both out of print and just unavailable. So it's tough to find, but there's a publishing record. And here's her books. There was World Prophecy, 1958 through 1998. Then Mylings' second book of World Prophecy, 1964 through 2024. Then other great titles. I love this one.

This is a real book title. Emotional and karmic causes of overweight plus how to lose 11 pounds in one week. Huh? Huh? 1965? Is it so that was both that was both of her personalities talking while making that title. I guess so. We got my filing the property and dash to the fit the fitness nut. I got an idea for a title. Well, I want to talk about

this. Well, I got to lose weight. Mm-hmm. All one person having that conversation. And then, dreams psychic getaways to your subconscious. Now, dreams psychic getaway. Weird, uh, verbiage there to your subconscious 1966. So you get the idea. This is somebody who is self publishing weird. Like, to me, this is someone you would see on Venice Beach

at like, psychic, like, and having like a little, like lemonade stand version of a psychic store. And then it would be just some, I can lunatic. So there's speculation that Joe Brandt wasn't even a real person, that she made up this person having a dream. No one ever met Joe Brandt. Other than her.

There's three inside of her. There could be three inside of her. Like, she seriously could be mentally ill. But somehow like these conspiracy theory websites got a hold of this newsletter because and kept spreading it around and spreading it around and spreading it around. And then it's all about this dude 17 years old allegedly this guy got kicked in the head by a horse, knocked him unconscious. And when he up, he shared this vision. Yeah, that's what I got.

This is how fucking crazy it is. And here's a little bit of Joe's dream. I just want to, just so you can hear his words, I woke up in the hospital room with the terrific headache as if the whole world was revolving inside my brain. I remember vaguely the fall from my horse, Blackie. Oh, I'm sorry, fall, not kick. As I lay there, pictures began to form in my mind,

pictures that stood still. I seem to be in another world, whether it was the future or in some ancient land, I could not say, then slowly, like the silver screen of the talkies. This is how old it is, you talk about talking movies. I mean, named as horse Blacki. Blacki, I know, racist.

And so, mm, mm, mm, mm. And help, yeah, you wonder if that was like the PC version of the name. How bad is this guy? He's like, I don't know. You might want to change the name of your horse for this. This is the 60s now, buddy. You can say, you can say blacky, but yeah,

oh ridiculous. So the color and the smell in the sound, I seem to find myself in Los Angeles, but I swear it was much bigger. And buses and odd shaped cars crowded with city streets. I thought about Hollywood Boulevard, and I found myself there. Whether this is true, I do not know, but there were a lot of guys my age with beards, and wearing some of them earrings.

Now that point right there, I found a variety of evangelical sites. The point to him predicting men wearing earrings is like, see, it's not a dream. He predicted the future so everything else is true as well. They're literally like, come on, you can't deny his feud to the rest of his vision because he called it, he called it. That's what happened to, but dude, used to wear earrings before, just rewrote it. I-R's existed. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So then he goes and he had some weird, I love the verbiage, all the girls,

some of them, Kino, like Kine, ooh, that's so keen. War real short skirts and they slouched along, moving like a dance. And he goes on describing various things. And then he goes, I wonder what year it was. It certainly was not in 1937. I saw a newspaper on the corner with a picture of the president. It surely was at Mr. Roosevelt.

He was bigger, heavier, big ears. So I'm wondering, Trump. Did he see Trump? So you know, so that's something to think about. You know, if you vote for Trump, there's a good chance you're going to cause California to magically slacking to the election. Sliding right in. Just slide right in.

Yep. Slide right in. You're fucking fulfilling this prophecy. Blue been up. So then he goes, you know, his next next day my headache gets worse and he's and he's I don't know He said oh, he's wakes up so that was part one of the vision then he slips back into A sleep and has another part to the sequel because you know dreams have sequels they often do and This seems like such nonsense and he says next, next day, my headache is worse. I wonder, I didn't get killed on that horse.

I've had another crazy dream, back in Hollywood, those people, why do they dress like that? I wonder, funny glow about them. It's a shine about their heads. I looked down to the clock by the big theater. It was 10 minutes to four. Something big was going to happen. And then, moves along, moves along, and he goes then,

when it came, how it came, like nothing in God's world, like nothing, it was like a scream of a siren long and low or a scream of a woman I heard having a baby when I was a kid. It was awful. It was something some monster was pushing up the sidewalks. You felt it long before you saw it as if the sidewalks wouldn't hold you anymore. I looked out at the cars. They were honking but not scared.

They kept moving. They didn't seem to know yet that anything was happening. And then he just goes on and on and talking about hundreds of sounds, all kinds of people screaming. happening and then he just goes on and on and talking about you know hundreds of sounds all kinds of people screaming And he goes I love children and women and those crazy guys with earrings Maybe it's West Hollywood is where he was yeah What ear were they in that's right So then they were lifted up about the side and he goes on and on and out and it's like it's a long long thing that was published

that talks about bad things happen in Japan and like yeah and things breaking off and all kinds of stuff and this is what I think people point to based on all these websites I found about California starting falling to the sea so really it's funny to me how it's gotten so common but like it all just comes from some nut job yeah boarding to pamphlet and then I'm sure me how it's gotten so common, but it all just comes from some nut job, putting a pamphlet and then it's like that social currency. People, it's titillating, it's exciting, you're like, oh my God. And then that gets spread around,

and then the rumor mill gets going and going and going until a couple generations later, a lot of people just, they have no idea where the thought came from. It's blindly accepted. But they just accept it like well. Well, they have fun moving to L.A. Been around long enough.

This guy to be true. Yeah, exactly. Was this guy's first time he ever dreamed? Ever? I know, I know. So you guys have, this ever happened to you? And there is speculation that he, again, he was not real. Because if she's pumping out these books of prophecies,

you know, maybe it just like she thought it would sell more. And this is a lady who, from what I read about her, isn't making a lot of money. She's self publishing these books. You just made me, maybe she thinks, well, if I, if I sell it to somebody else's vision, yeah, maybe that'll kick up readership. Hey, I like how he said, uh, as, uh, my head was, uh, hurting like the whole world was inside of it. Yeah.

Yeah. Or it's hurting because you fell off of a fucking horse like you're thinking crazy shit now right right yeah a large animal exactly and you think about this you know like what was the big crowd earthquake in San Francisco i think was nineteen oh six so it's like

the thought of catastrophic earthquakes in California wasn't a new thing. And it would make sense that he could then dream about something that maybe, since he's out there, maybe it's something somebody said to him. He's a 17-year-old kid, your imagination goes crazy. You know, listening to people give birth, apparently? Yeah, and this is your yeah, exactly. And this is during that fundamentalist kind of Christian era, where, you know, there's the big barn storming tents and stuff and

and it was a lot of apocalyptic kind of things being said there. It's all about end of days and the and the world, you know, being destroyed. That was very popular notions then. Yeah, although she had jumbled around in his head. Yeah. And he had a fucking dream. A dream. Yeah. Yeah, a dream. Yeah. A dream. You know, and that's how religions get started. I mean, rumors get started. Oh, so I wrong our wrong wrong wrong episode. I'll always switch a nose up. But there is a thing. So there is a thing like parts of California can fall into the ocean. It's like erosion. You know, it's like that does happen like Pacifica around San Francisco. That you people, a lot of articles pointed to that,

is like, see, it's starting. If I can house, it's the fall into the ocean. Do you see the boulder? Do you see it? Right. Do you see it? That's because someone was dumb enough to build a house on a cliff,

where a dirt cliff where you can see violent waves consistently hitting it. How do you not think that that's gonna eventually fall into erosion always happens? It will be fine. Yeah, that's, it amazes me. The view is breathtaking. Oh, yeah. People it's gonna take your breath. Like people do shit like the S like an LA when people build houses and like Laurel Canyon and stuff are on these hills. Yeah. That are not especially, you know, previously they would do this on a steep hill with loose dirt and then it rains a bunch and there's a mudslide and their houses destroyed.

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people use these logic leaps. I love that. Like, the, like, one thing will happen, like a house will fall in the ocean, like, that will go, okay, or just, just like with the Joe branch, he, earrings, he said earrings. In this thing, he wrote supposedly in 1937, but didn't share with anyone until 1967 when men were starting to wear earrings, which takes a lot of the validity away from his prophecy.

But then I started thinking, okay, so it can't happen. This is why I think the rumor mill got started, so then I started thinking what could happen. Okay, like is there, like, you know, cause there are fault lines, big earthquake could happen. And this is a Smithsonian. And basically what they think will happen

is it could be serious to the point, like a magnitude 8.3 quake, might be possible if the entire San Andreas fault were to rupture from the Mexico border up to Northern California. They say, we don't think that's likely this is some geologists overall such a quake would cause 200 billion of damage, 50,000 injuries, 2,000 deaths, and basically from sustained shaking. 2,000 deaths. And that's because of shit that we put on the earth. Right, exactly. Like we're going to get hurt by the buildings and towers that are gonna fall that we fucking put on something that might shake. Right, exactly. Like, yeah. I mean, to me,

that's, I mean, yeah, that'd be tragic, but that's like not, that's a reason like not to move here any more than like, what are you gonna do? So you're not gonna move to the Midwest because tornadoes. Yeah. You're not gonna move to the West Coast, to the Earthquake. You're not gonna move to the Northwest because of wildfires. You're not gonna move to the Northeast coast of the earthquake. You're not gonna move to the northwest because of wildfires You're not gonna move to the northeast because of blizzards. I'm not gonna live on Earth period because of airplanes Right, that could happen it could happen. Hey, it could happen they could fall out of the the air and crush me exactly Exactly, yeah, yeah, don't just swept into the ocean. Don't live on don't live on earth Yeah, please actually if you're worried about it, just get out of here get out on earth. Don't live on the ocean. Don't live on earth.

Yeah, please actually, if you're worried about it, just get out of here. Get out of here. Get off earth. Get in the ocean. Get in the swim. Just go into the ocean, be like, go, I was going to head up here anyways. Yep. I'd rather quit than get fired.

Right? A bunch of idiots. So then I started seeing like, okay, is there anything really big that could happen? And there is a New Yorker article in a variety of other websites talk about tsunami could be a thing like remember Japan in 2011. Yeah huge tsunami. That is a possibility Apparently scientifically that freaks me out more than earth. Yeah me too, but apparently I didn't know this until looking this stuff up Southern California Just because of the way the fault lines lay out much less at risk

for giant tsunami, just the lay of the land on the ocean floor, coastline, then the northwest, the Pacific Northwest, this Cascadia fault line, they say this is called a Cascadia subduction zone, but it talks about like that, there's more pressure there and that could cause a bigger tsunami. But apparently, some people do think like I-5, it could like take cause like 7 million people to die by this giant wave going like 100 miles inland and then sweeping basically out Seattle, Portland, Olympia, and all these other cities. Wow. It's an interesting here to say to understand it. They say, take your hands and hold them palms down.

Middle fingers touching. So your right hand represents North America, tectonic plate, which bears on its back, like the space needle in Seattle and all that. Your left hand is oceanic plate called Wandafuka, 90,000 square miles in size. The place where they meet is this cascadia thing. And then it says, you know, like they're pushing

against each other. So when you push like they're, your right hand kind of goes over your left. That's the way the plate slides over. And then it says without moving your hands, curl your right knuckles up. So they point toward the ceiling. And then under pressure from Wandafuka,

the stuck edge of North America is bulging upward. So it's kind of sliding up and bulging, and then 30, 40 millimeters a year, it can do this for a long time, but that eventually it's going to, that pressure's gonna snap back, and it says straighten out your fingers and slide them back. And when it does that,

that could be like the quote unquote kind of, you know, big one. Way of pool. Right, right, and it says, it says, if it does this, from California to Canada, the continental shelf to the cascades will drop by as much as six feet. So like there are coastline can drop six feet

and then shift 30 to 100 feet west, rebound. Losing in minutes, all this kind of compression that stuff is building up for years. Minutes. Yeah, yeah. So it would be heavy heavy and it would cause a massive 700 mile liquid wall

That would reach Northwest coast on average 15 minutes after earthquake begins and Just devastates basically everything west of the i5 and they say The odds of this they say but some Chris Goldfinger some the chief scientist here with seismic stuff he says happening this happening in the next 50 years roughly one in three the odds of a very big one one in ten and I think one in ten is the very very big one that's like with like the perfect till it'd be a small tsunami they won't do that kind of damage. But mess somethings, or the giant one, he's saying one in 10, so that one,

in the next 50 years, that one is kind of scary. Yeah, yeah. 700 mile water wall. Yeah, yeah, that's terrifying. So, you know, so for people out there, if you're, you know, one of those doomsday kind of profit type people, and you're like, man, you just fucking took the wind out of my sail

and I'm like, LA,, now you can root for Seattle. You just walked out to see, right? Get out of Seattle. Yeah, so now you can get your death fix in a different way. You just move it north a little bit. Exactly. Go to some swimming classes.

Yeah, but yeah, so crazy stuff, man. Crazy stuff. I don't like that. Yeah, but even that, I feel like with the science stuff, they could come out with another article in two years. I'm like, ah, shit, we we didn't carry one. Yeah Did we say everything's gonna be destroyed? We meant to have an array of people made round. Yeah, sorry about that That's the thing that I always like I don't I don't know

I don't pay attention to a lot of this stuff because I'm crazy enough as it is and I get you know to involve this stuff And then worry about it, but a and then worry about it. Us saying one in ten is like, but these are like huge numbers. Yes, for science, when you hear stuff like that, where it's like 80% are like, it's totally different than you being like, oh, here's eight pennies.

One, two, three. Right, right. I don't know where I was going with that. No, but I know what you mean. It's like, obviously he's not an exact science. Right, these things. Because they're just like, give in the next 50 years. It'll be either one in three of a small or one in ten So it's not a really a true one. I mean ten. I don't know and then I feel like they make these predictions all the time

You know this volcano is gonna erupt. Yeah, this thing this fault lens gonna go and then it doesn't happen Well, and they're being made to put a number in a statistic or you know It's something that like like you said, is not a, it's not predictable, really. Right. Exactly. And then being someone being like, we'll put an exact number on it. And they're like, what? That's stupid.

We can't, we can't put exact anything on this. Yeah. It's not an exact. So do you feel better now? Maybe you're worried at first. You said you were scared at first initially with the numbers I was throwing out before I revealed that I was lying. Oh, yeah How do you feel better about West Coast living? Yeah, yeah, I was never honestly really worried about it

Yeah, I I have a gun with one bullet and if anything shakes in my house I'm gone immediately don't even wait to see how bad it is. No, I'm out. Yep. Yeah, it's a solid plan. Yeah Solid man. I didn't feel it earthquake though What is it a couple months ago? I woke up in the middle of the night and my bed was shaking. And my first thought wasn't, this is the big one. It was, someone is in my house shaking my bed. I'm going to die by being murdered to death.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's the thing. You have, you speak, and I'm going to get to that actually that. I'm going to get to the odds of being murdered compared to the odds of being a dining nurse. Yeah, yeah. So like basically anyone listening, man, if you're worried about earthquakes, just shut the fuck up.

Yeah, just get over it. It's worry about getting murdered or cholesterol or getting hit by a car or you cancer or, you know, realistic, global things. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, street, don't, don't, don't, but yeah, there is quick thing, people even, you won't, even in LA, I'll be, you know, like, you're never, like, a little trimmer happens, you're like, oh my God, did you feel that? But I think people, like, when they start to feel,

they're like, there's gonna be it. Oh my goodness. Nope, nope, you're gonna have to die a different way, sorry. And, and, and, I can point you towards some things, if you want. And, and Jacob, and, and, and, in the meantime, before the tsunami, there's quick hits, where, where can people find find more view while you're still alive? Oh?

I'm in a lot of bushes these days. Okay, I'm online all over the place I have an Instagram I post mostly on and then a Twitter that I post really awful shit on It's a really bad reason. What is it Twitter handle? It's at Jacob Allen Kubon. Yep. Because some little turd in Britain has my name. And I get it. Oh, I see his face. I see that pic. And it just, oh, it infuriates me. Yeah, I want to message him. Somebody in Kentucky has mine.

And it's a car dealership. What are you doing with it? Well, what am I doing with it? Yeah, this guy selling cars for me. So I'm like, fair enough. Yeah, that's true. But yeah,? Well, what am I doing with it? I'm... This guy selling cars for me, so I'm like fair enough. Yeah, that's true. But yeah, but yeah, what is this? What is this kid in England doing?

Nothing. Yeah, and so I have a site, JacobCuban.com, and then you can find all sorts of shit on there. Awesome, awesome. And you can find more of my stuff. Create a Pandora Station. It's free. Just create a Dan Cummins Pandora Station. Check out the new album, Don'tink the Bear podcast,

TimeSuck, the website, timeSuck.com, we can check that out, you're listening, we'll be coming soon. And as I'd like to do so far in this, I wanted to do top five takeaways from today's. So the little five things we've learned today in this podcast, number one, don't let my mom and Lindsay scare you with their crazy propaganda nonsense.

Okay, that's a very important one Don't listen to my wife Your mom and I okay, well, don't listen to her. She's freaking me she freaks me out. Don't listen to her Okay, I won't I'm gonna start blocking those calls number two Don't vote for Trump unless you want something California to fall into the sea which if your Trump supporter probably you do want that to happen Yeah, it's good odds good odds Number three California can't fucking fall into the ocean. Yeah, there's not enough water to drown us. Come on stop it Number four those you committed to hoping some biblical Armageddon type end of days calamity should be Redirect your energy and pray for shadow to be decimated. Yeah, okay?

This is the tragedy. Don't worry. Tragy's still there. It just moved north So keep your doomsday clubs alive Get down your bunkers and you know look north make your kids dress and weird, homage-type clothing, and think about Satan killing the space needle, I guess. And then number five, your odds of dying in an earthquake. If you live in California according to a study same odds are being killed by a toddler with a gun, which is a weird reference. Yes. So same amount, apparently you got a one in 20,000 chance of being killed by a toddler with a gun.

Not kidding. Watch your neighborhoods. Keep your daycare nearby. Mm-hmm. Yeah, if you've got a daycare nearby, get that conceal and carry permit. That is one in 1,000. Right,000. Right, exactly.

Because the good thing about Todd, they're trying to tell you with guns, they probably have to take a lot of shots. They don't have a waiting period either in gun shops. You know, for Toddlers. No. They need to hand it right over. Yep, babies get free guns in a lot of states. Which leads me to believe, if we're going to focus a lot of energy

on what to do in case the big one, we all need to focus equal energy on taking control of trigger happy babies. So if there's to do in case the big one, we also need to focus equal energy on taking control of trigger-happy babies. Mm-hmm. So if there's any people working for the government, let's get on that. And rest easy, everyone. You have a much greater chance of being murdered,

one in a thousand, according to the LA Times. Fuck that. You have a one in a thousand chance of being murdered in your lifetime, one in 20, dying in earthquake, so sweet dreams. So yeah, just... I can't think of anything. Rest easy. Sleep with one eye open.

Keep an extra special eye out on babies. Yeah, I think the main thing I took out of this is don't name your horse blackie. Don't name your horse blackie. Don't do it, you guys. I know it's a popular name right now and horse name books mm-hmm and if you live in Seattle near a daycare who buddy you're in trouble near murderers you are fucked keep listening to time suck

Oh, shit.