Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 315 - The MRTCG: One of the World's Deadliest Doomsday Cults

Episode Date: September 26, 2022

The name The Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God might not sound familiar, but in the world of cults, it should be. Only one cult in modern history has ever had more people die in its final act, the Peoples Temple's Jonestown Massacre.  778 people died in Uganda in early 2000 - murdered by cult leaders who had failed to correctly predict the day the world would end and the apocalypse would begin, on four different occasions. Today we explore what this cult was about - including the messages its leaders received from their preposterous "visions" of Mother Mary - and we also explore how and why this cult was able to flourish in Uganda in the 1990s. Decades of chaos had left many in the nation ready to receive proclamations of an impending apocalypse. Get tour tickets at dancummins.tv Get Scared to Death LIVE tickets at badmagicmerch.com  October  27th, 6P PST/9PM EST. True Tales of Hallow's Eve Horror TWO! Bad Magic Productions Monthly Patreon Donation:  In honor of the passing of Jeff Burton from the Rizzuto Show aka the Rizz Show on 105.7 FM in St Louis, we are donating $16,640 to Jeff's charity of choice - Kids Rock Cancer. Through the proven healing power of music therapy, Kids Rock Cancer helps children combat feelings of anxiety, depression, uncertainty, and helplessness.  To find out more, go to KidsRockCancer.org  We also are donating $1850 to our scholarship fund! Watch the Suck on YouTube: https://youtu.be/cRygZS7h49gMerch: https://www.badmagicmerch.comDiscord! https://discord.gg/tqzH89vWant to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever happens to be our most current page :)For all merch related questions/problems: [e-mail] (copy and paste)Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcastWanna become a Space Lizard?  Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcastSign up through Patreon and for $5 a month you get to listen to the Secret Suck, which will drop Thursdays at Noon, PST. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. You get to vote on two Monday topics each month via the app. And you get the download link for my new comedy album, Feel the Heat. Check the Patreon posts to find out how to download the new album and take advantage of other benefits.

Cult, cult, cult. The movement for the restoration of the 10 commandments of God, unless you happen to be paying really close attention to global news back around 2000, particularly news from Central Africa, or happen to catch an episode about them on a podcast dedicated to cults in the past few years. It's very likely that you have not heard of them. Even though this cult murdered almost as many members, then Jim Jones and the people's temple cult, and many of them died in a much more brutal fashion. Those of us interested in Doomsday cults, how and why they form what

they convince their followers to do, how they end, etc. The movement for the restoration of the 10 commandments of God is one hell of a wild ride. This is a big cult. Lots of members made a lot of money, had a very bloody ending. And unlike Jim Jones who died with his followers, the main leader of this cult and a few others might have gotten away with what they did. The movement for the restoration of the Ten Commandments of God was led by Crodonia Mwinde and Joseph Cbuteri and South-Westerns, Gusme Uganda, formed in the late 80s after both of its founders claimed that they had seen visions of the Virgin Mary.

Compared notes, and started making some cult power moves. This cult originated during a particularly tumultuous time in Uganda, a nation that has seen almost nothing but tumultuous times. The country which had been a protectorate of Great Britain from 1894 to 1961, I've seen a whole lot of instability in chaos that came with its independence. The man who would eventually rise to rule Uganda after a year's long battle for leadership was a man named General Amin, a brutal dictator who forced out or killed many Ugandans

and drove the economy into ruins. He considered one of the most brutal despeds in modern world history. Tens of thousands of Ugandans were basically arrested, murdered during Amin's reign of terror. Amin would be removed in 1979, leaving behind an economy in shambles, thousands dead, many more soon to be dead due to the devastating AIDS pandemic that turned into an AIDS epidemic.

It was in this atmosphere that many, not just Crodonia and Joseph, would begin to see visions of the Virgin Mary. People were desperately hoping for signs that God had not abandoned them, that relief from bloodshed and poverty would be coming. Due to colonization by Europeans, there had long been a Catholic presence in Uganda. All the economic turmoil, combined with a lot of local church scandals, caused many Ugandan Catholics to leave the church and form new Catholic splinter groups in the 80s. The movement for the restoration of the Ten Commandments of God was one of several of these

groups, and the one that would take their new ideas about God and God's plan to a more extreme place than any of their counterparts. They taught that in order to avoid damnation, the apocalypse, their followers had to follow the 10 commandments. Sounds simple, right? Except their version of following was insanely distorted.

Instead of interpreting thou shall not bear fault witness, false witness, as a ban on line, they eventually took this as a ban on speech entirely, with many of the community's members keeping silent or speaking in sign language in order to avoid damning their souls to hell. Fasting was conducted regularly, and only one meal was eaten on Fridays and Mondays. Sex was forbidden as was soap, because of course the apocalypse was imminent, imminent or so they said and we all know that God hates So it's a doomsday cult of course their teachings were insane Movement leaders declared that the apocalypse would occur on December 31st, 1999

Actually, that was their third prediction first two had an obviously come true and then this day Also, of course came and went without any of their baseless predictions coming true. And now members were really starting to get mad and wanting their money back. Leaders quickly refocused, set a new fourth doomsday date, March 17, 2000. That morning when hundreds of movement members inside a small rural church were worshiping, celebrating, then an explosion was heard onlookers watched and tear as the church with the windows boarded in the doors locked blue up in a hellish fiery blast and four days after this church exploded and then burned down police investigated movement properties and discovered hundreds of dead bodies at other cult sites across southern Uganda

Some of them had been murdered up to three weeks before the inferno and the leaders were nowhere to be found Did they burn up in the explosion or the fire that followed or did they take the money and run? How did all this happen? Why did the movement take off in the first place? Why were so many people interested in its insane teachings? This is an off the beaten path cult story. But one that's no less interesting than others that are much more well known. If this had happened in the US, this cult would likely be just as infamous or maybe more infamous than the people this had happened in the US, this cult would likely be just as infamous or maybe more infamous than the people's temple or the in the Jontown massacre or heaven's gate or

David Kuresh's Colton, Waco, the branched dividends, a strange sat in ridiculous story of the movement for the restoration of the Ten Commandments of God today on another cult, cult, cult, edition of Time Suck. This is Michael McDonald and you're listening to Time Suck. You're listening to Time Suck. Happy Monday, meat sacks. Get your robes on. Pull down your hoods. Prepare to chant. Gather inside the sucked dungeon.

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And now see that wasn't that wasn't so long. Now, diving back into the realm of cults with another obscure one, at least to most in the Western world, which is a shame because this story so powerfully illustrates how deadly cults can be. In fact, in sheer numbers, the movement for the restoration of the Ten Commandments of God would have a similar death count to the people's temple, to the Jones town massacre, where 909 people died. The movements leaders would kill nearly 800.

Some sources, Listim, is having killed closer to a thousand followers more deadly than Jones town. Few sources report 924 dead, but the most reliable sources list the final death toll at 778, which is obviously still very substantial. Hundreds of more people died than in the Waco siege on the branch to videos compound down in Texas. So many more died than during the heaven's gate group suicide where 39 cult members took their lives

so they could try and board some sort of celestial spaceship traveling in a comments tale. In terms of deadliness, the movement for the restoration of the 10 commandments is up there with the worst doomsday cults of modern history if not all time. So I haven't they achieved the same kind of infamy. Researchers have a couple theories.

Some think it's because this was all pretty recent. Killings took place March 17th, 2000, less than 25 years ago. I guess they think this story just hasn't had enough time to marinate in the minds of general public. That makes no sense to me though. It's Heaven's Gate. You know, Heaven's Gate. Their final act went down only three years earlier, 1997. And the US government seized on the branched division compound in Waco occurred only four years before that in 1993.

More likely reason to me for the killings, not getting widespread media coverage is the poor record keeping and a generally less than stable investigative atmosphere in Uganda at the time of the mass murders. The police were ill equipped to carry out investigations. We still don't know that much about them compared to so many other cults who have been objects of international study. Probably largely due to poor record keeping, there's no definitive book that's ever been written on the movement.

Not even known with certainty as we'll look into if their leaders are still alive or not. Also compared with all the other tragedy that has occurred in Uganda and the surrounding areas around Uganda, you know, around the same time for decades, actually, the deadly actions of this cult sadly just got lost in a lot of atrocity noise. Just before the movement really took off,

Ugandan's neighbor, Rwanda, endured a massive genocide, just counting the Tutsi Eskney group somewhere between 491,800,000 people died in just a hundred days and the spring and summer of 1994. They're on that same 100 days up to half a million girls and women estimated to have been raped. And the years before and since that region have also been plagued by exceptionally high levels of violence, rape, illness, economic instability, more. For example, in October 2002, not that long after this massive murder of all these cult members when the police would have been continuing to try and investigate the movement, the country was busy evacuating more than 400,000 civilians caught up in a fight against the cult like Lord's Resistance Army Insurgency led by Joseph Coney. Coney to suck that dude one day for sure.

According to the UN, Coney's LRA was responsible for more than a hundred thousand deaths, the abduction of between 60 and a hundred thousand kids, and the displacement of around two and a half million civilians between 1987 and 2012. So in comparison to all that, between 7,000 and 15,000 people dying in a doomsday cult, sadly didn't make a huge news splash. In this context, what's the importance of a small cult, at least a law enforcement, especially if they all seem to have been kind of burnt out, not funded properly. Another reason we might not hear about, I guess, I was going to say no pun intended on the

burned out with law enforcement, maybe a little bit of pun intended. Another reason we might not hear about them as much as other cults is at the movement, you know, continually insisted that it wasn't a cult. I think with the local media before it ended, it didn't get a lot of exposure. As being a cult, it was just considered a sect of Roman Catholicism. They claim they supported the authority of the pope, worship Jesus as God's child,

Mary's as mother, what's so wrong or culty about that? Well, as it would turn out, so many things. And then finally, African cults and crimes in general, just don't seem to draw as much attention as other similar atrocities here in the west. And why is that? Could it be related to race? I wonder because white serial killers for sure get a lot more media play, you know, here than black serial killers. And here at TimeSuck, you know, topics that are black-centric, true crime, inspirational, whatever consistently get fewer

downloads than white-centric topics is that due to some form of racial bias? Do we just hear in the West collectively care a lot less about cult members in Africa dying than we would about white cult members? And is that really racist or do people in general just prefer stories regardless of their color about people who look like them, maybe even subconsciously? Is there a lack of cultural understanding with some stories that make them harder to follow? Like when we talk about, say, a European subject, is it easier to understand the story here in the West because European culture more similar to American culture than say African

culture is? More of us can then place ourselves in the story more easily. We can imagine what if that was me? Is that harder to do with the culture? There might seem much more foreign, you know, than someplace in Europe. Or some other part of the US that we live in or have, you know, have been to. Whatever the reason, even though today's cult is not as reported on as some of the bigger culture we've covered, that doesn't mean that the movement,

I'll generally shorten their lengthy name. Maybe they needed a better name to become more well-known. I will say, Heaven's Gate gates better than their very long name. Uh, doesn't make him any less newsworthy. Percy, I love stories set outside the US. Stories set in the country and continent, you know, so culturally different to my own. I think looking at other cultures actually gives us a great opportunity to reflect on our own. And today's case to remind many of us how incredibly fucking lucky we are to have been born in or have

been able to move to a place that is more or less pretty economically stable, not war torn, safer, full of a lot more opportunities to live a peaceful and prosperous life than many other places. Today we'll see how social instability, bad economic conditions, viral illnesses, to claim the lives of thousands, you know, battles for leadership, how all this, you know, a tallitarian leader who brutalizes his own people, how that can all contribute to an atmosphere in which charismatic leaders can take advantage of people, lead them to their deaths in a land full of so much other chaos and death. Today we'll discuss more than the movements final act.

And don't worry, it won't all be dark and dreary. Some of their beliefs, much of their teachings, unintentionally really fucking funny to me. So ridiculous. A lot of interesting visions. So can't wait to share so much strange shit with you today. Let's get into it now. The movement for the restoration of the 10 Commandments of God, another Doomsday cult. This one will be centered around the year 2000, you know, for their final act, some called

Y2K. Years leading up to Y2K were full of fear in paranoia all over the world. That for sure had to have helped recruitment. So first I'll talk about that. Next, I'll show how colonialism created a lot of chaos in Uganda and elsewhere around Uganda. Chaos that led directly to a lot of fighting and governmental instability and oppression following Uganda's independence. I'll also look at how Catholic beliefs in Uganda were always changing thanks to having been blended a bit with local spiritual beliefs in this st.cretic way. This religion always being in some state of flux or transition

helps support a belief in offshoots. People are used to altering their beliefs. Catholicism and Uganda, much more mystical than here in the States, at least was at the time of this story. Reports of visions of Jesus or the mother Mary were common before the cult founded. People were used to believe in the God spoke directly to certain Ugandans. That belief becoming pretty mainstream for sure helped create a very fertile climate for the cult to grow in. All that illustrate what instability and turmoil Ugandans were dealing with in the decades leading up to the cult and its final act. How so much chaos and death and corruption might have made joining the doomsday cult seem almost reasonable. They don't at least seem like well, fuck it. Why not?

Then we'll get an overview of the cult's founders and leading members followed by diving into the cult's very strange beliefs. Followed by the timeline beginning with visions, the cult's founders claim they had some efficiencies are so fucking darkly funny. And with the aftermath of the cult's destruction. The backdrop you've gone to the late 90s really helped these cult leaders recruit a lot of members in so many ways. So let's start with looking at those Y2K beliefs now. Looking back on it today, might surprise many of you.

How seriously, a lot of people took moving into a new millennium. I remember, because I'm, I'm getting older now. For many people, this is because of the so-called Millennium Bug and major computing systems. The Millennium Bug now goes back to the very beginning of computers. When complex computer programs were first written in the 1960s, engineers used a two-digit code for the year, leaving out the one nine. So instead of writing like 1968, a computer would just know that information as 68.

Then a couple decades later, 1984, a woman named Marilyn J. Murray who worked for an insurance company in Illinois and an enduring computer in a newty due date in the early 2000s. But instead of making the jump to 2000, her computer interpreted it as a year, a century earlier, you know, 1904, say instead of 2004. This meant that the numbers that that computer churned out were complete nonsense. Maryland and her husband then wrote a book titled, Computers in Crisis, how to avert the coming worldwide computer systems collapse. Not many people noticed at that time.

But by the end of the 1980s, people were getting worried in the Social Security administration. They were beginning to find out that they too couldn't calculate figures for after 2000. That's a problem. And holy shit, it cracks me up that no one fucking anticipated that. I love that people smart enough to invent the very first computers and computer programs did not think about what would happen to those computers in their programs past the year 1999. So short-sighted, even the smart people. To me, that's like inventing a badass mobile phone the first smartphone But you forgot to build a way to recharge the battery

You know this is awesome melvin holy shit a phone and a tiny computer in your hand Not connected to a wall you can make calls and serve the web you are a visionary a wizard Okay, so when this battery runs out like how do we recharge it? I just I don't see a port This oh, oh fuck. Oh, I knew I forgot something 1994 Social Security started going through all of his millions of lines of relevant computer code Desperately trying to fix his problem the Department of Defense

Ran into similar difficulties began a similar project Do want fucking missiles going off the wrong time. A senior defense official said at one point, if we built houses the way we build software, the first woodpecker to come along would destroy civilization. That's a great quote. As the year 2000 approached, many believed

that the systems would not interpret the zero zero correctly, right? Caused a major glitch in the system. Like major glitch has sending humanity spiraling into a dystopian nightmare, kind of glitch. Some believe that this would cause a whole host of problems enough to literally collapse society as we know it. The most extreme warrior thought that banks would incorrectly calculate interest rates and waste carrier account balances in general. You know, what if you have a $200,000 account balance in your savings before the collapse of New Year's Eve, 1999,

the New Year's Day 2000, you got like 200 bucks. And you can't prove the new balance is wrong. That's a nightmare. People started taking their money out of banks because of worries over stuff like this. My dad actually took a bunch of his savings. Of course he did, by gold with it. And then hit the golden little bags in the walls of our house. Of course he did, by gold with it. And then hit the gold and little bags in the walls of our house, not kitty.

Had to hide it, you know, because of all the anarchy and looting that was bound to break out. A lot of loaded guns hidden around the house at the time. You know, the world was definitely gonna collapse. How could it not? Why'd you came, motherfuckers? Come on. And then it didn't.

And then I think the price of gold went down to these. Pretty pissed. Maybe the, you know, the 3.5% interest loan you had is now saying it's 13.5%. All these different things, you can't afford your mortgage, you can lose your home, a lot of fear in some circles. There's fear that power plants might incorrectly monitor levels and endanger people who live nearby. Transportation would suddenly be thrown back 100 years.

All the flight records are scrambled. Maybe the planes themselves Got scrambled so crashing left and right is gonna be fucking chaos There's gonna be vandalism and looting martial law is gonna have to be declared and maybe that was part of the plan all along Sheeple the trilateralist you luminati they did this shit on purpose chaos by design Designed so you and forces can infiltrate the US right starting prison in citizens and FEMA camps and enslave the population Welcome to the new world order For some there's a lot of paranoia leading up to the year 2000. I remember it very well

Meanwhile towards the end of the century thousands of thousands of coders right are employed around the world to fix this glitch Everywhere from state departments to private companies Right, this makes's way into pop culture to be immortalized in pop culture by the brilliant Mike Judge, the cult film office space, you know, who's miserable workers on the job of going through code line by line to correct the error. Peter office space is protagonist,

explains the problem to his love interest Joanna, great Jennifer Aniston role, right? And he's like, she's like, and what do you do there, Peter? That's didn't cubicle an update bank software for the 2000 Switch. What's that? You see, they wrote all this bank software and it saved space.

They put 98 instead of 1998. So I go through these thousands of lines of codes and it doesn't really matter. I don't like my job. I don't think I'm gonna go anymore. Many people, many of them, formerly not apocalyptic thinkers at all, are racing to prepare, right? Not all backwoods, doomsday preppers, police throughout the world are securing emergency bunkers for themselves, female workers, guaranteeing up for a potential Y2K emergency.

Officials in Miami, Dade County asking residents to have enough food and water stored up for two weeks, which would see the area through a disruption similar to the one caused by Hurricane Andrew in 1992. Time magazine at the time incorporated information tech staff, they set up a generator powered war room in the basement of the time and life building filled with computers and equipment ready to produce the magazine in case of a catastrophic breakdown of electricity and communications. Wilderness survival boot camps getting a lot more popular. Oh Man NBC even made a made for TV shitty movie about the coming disaster called why 2k Released on November 21st 1999. Here's their sweet trailer

As new years approaches We're starting to see some problems One things on on everyone's mind. What if they're right? Why do you care the movie and just explode under 21st? So many explain what if they're right? I love that guy's voice. So many trailers and commercials. Pandemonium, everything is going to fall apart. Life, as you know it, will descend into chaos and death. What if they're right? Prepare yourselves, but first, watch Why Do K on NBC this Friday, after fucking whatever

they have. Uh, yeah, thanks NBC. Wait a, wait a stoke some fear during an especially panic time. As well, uh, help create a little possibly deadly pandemonium, stoke some terrifying, anything to sell more beer, sell Pensota in article in Vanity Fair in January of 1999, uh, wrote about this possibility. It is an instant pass.

I'm gonna do the same guy's voice, cause that's just fun. It is an instant pass midnight, January 1, 2000. The power in some cities isn't working. Bank faults and prison gates have swung open. Hospitals have shut down. So many countries degenerating into riots and revolution. No one will know the extent of its consequences until after they occur.

The one thing is that the wondrous, sorry, the the one thing is that the wondrous Sorry, the one sure thing is that the wondrous machines that govern and ease our lives won't know what to do Right in the streets Here comes the end everyone. Oh boy break out that fucking perv siren Watch your doors board up the window shoot trespassers on site. If you want your family to live, fear, fear of the coming purge of Y2K. Late 90s. Golden age, IT people, survivalists, especially end times, apocalypse, mongering, you know,

Christian more extremists. Y2K era represented to some strains of Christians, more extreme punishment for many of the things they've been worried about for years now. Society had moved too far away from God, become too reliant on technology to involved in the modern secular world. Now the end times were a common. There was the fact that the year 2000 marked the second millennium since the birth of Christ, the book of Revelation could be read at least by some to suggest that a millennia meant the beginning of global end times American televanjalists Jerry fall well proclaimed it I'm trying to stop reading that guy's voice. Why 2k? Maybe God's instrument to shake this nation to humble this nation To start a revival that spreads over the face of the earth before the rapture of the church. Oh shit! Here we go! Even without the concept of the Millennium bug, this kind of

paranoia and religious thinking was felt all over the world, including Uganda. Uganda, a national Y2K task force was established and is 1999 wound down. They addressed the country's fears and announced the readiness of the excuse me new nation systems To switch over to the new millennium without incident Uganda is why 2k compliant on November 1st 1999 new vision headline announced Task force said that the teachers payroll have been prepared till January 2000 as a contingency Some teachers, you know constituted the biggest percentage of public service employees The national referral hospital malago meanwhile announced that as the new year dawn, it would

switch off its most delicate and expensive machines. And I do think these kind of precautions, smart to make, you know, better safe and sorry, deputy hospital director, Dr. Gideon, it is Dr. Gideon, Kikaponak, Kikam, Pekaho, longer name, said, we switch off our automated medical equipment such as the radio therapy unit. We shall also take care of specialized technology machines such as the computerized tomographic machine.

Really had to fight using that voice for reading that too. Dr. Kipa PIKAHO said, while all the machines in the hospital had been declared Y2K compliant by the National Y to K task force extra care was being taken He said we're all anxious today Nobody knows exactly what's going to happen. We must adjust and accommodate any changes and eventualities

Yeah, okay, so that's practical hospital also put on a standby Consultant surgeon 11 doctors 26 nurses five auxiliary staff to handle any unexpected emergencies. And then of course, the computers did not crash. In Uganda or anywhere else. After so much hype, there were very few problems in the end. As the clocks rolled over into the new millennium, most things operated as normal. A nuclear energy facility in Isha, Ishikawa, Japan had some of its radiation equipment fail, but backup facilities ensured that there was never any danger to the public.

Even countries such as Italy, Russia, South Korea, which had done little to prepare for Y2K, had no more technical problems in the countries who did lots of prepare. Like the US, which spent millions and millions on the problem. One woman Ann Kelsey put the roll over to a new millennium for the average person this way. She said, I stocked up on an array of battery-operated lights, a chemical toilet, plenty of cash, sleeping bags, a battery-operated emergency radio.

I'll stop. Full tank of gas and camping gear, my house looks like an REI outpost. On New Year's Eve, I sat with trepidation and watched Sydney, Australia welcome the millennium, 12 plus hours before the US East Coast smart. The lights stayed on. There were no catastrophic interruptions. The television stations kept broadcasting. I looked over so much sheepishly at my pyramid of emergency supplies. The first week of the new century saw the local food bank receive a windfall of canned food. It was like cleaned out my emergency rations and reflected on my somewhat extreme over

reaction. Yeah, the world did not end. Nations around the world, including Uganda, saw the year 2000, you know, didn't really look or feel different than the year 1999. And that created a lot of problems for one small group, Uganda, which had predicted at the end of the world, would be on December 31, 1999 there. Third prediction, the one they were most sure of, and that would of course be the movement for the restoration of the Ten Commandments of God, which had been predicting and ever moving apocalyptic date that didn't come in 1995, then didn't come in 1997 either.

Now the leaders are in some serious trouble. They'd use several end times predictions in order to get their membership, get their members, excuse me, to comply with them, to get them to sell their land, hand their money over to them, to comply with strict schedules and involve days without taking or excuse me talking, intensive prayer, beatings, accepting the word of God was channeled through a woman who had once been a sex worker and a beer brewer before supposedly becoming the Messiah. So now they start to make it a plan, one that we'll get to soon. Right now, time for an overview of Uganda to show how political and social instability there produced reports of strange religious experiences, experiences that would influence and help

the movement achieve its goals. Then as I stated earlier, we'll look at the movement's leadership and beliefs before head then today's time-sack timeline to experience the full life cycle of this terribly destructive cult. Uganda. Let's meet this interesting nation. Uganda is a country in East Central Africa, bordered by South Sudan to the north, Kenya to the east, Tanzania, Rwanda to the south, the Democratic Republic of the Congo to the west.

This capital city is Kampala built around seven hills not far from the shores of lake victoria the suburbs do go on to you know the edge of lake victoria uh... while compala's population is just one one million six hundred eight thousand six hundred its metro area population is almost seven million it's a big sprawling city described in a number of sources as the most chaotic city in africa so many motorbikes so many shuttlebikes, so many shuttle vans, like so many shuttle vans, dirt roads, downtown, paved roads and suburbs, very dense, very crowded in many parts.

You know, I was watching some travel videos of people navigating certain parts of downtown. I'm just getting stressed out by like so many people crammed in a small area. Many parts of the city are not a place for a light-hearted relaxing stroll. Some parts gorgeous, you know, weather is pretty perfect.

Average high in the low 80s year-round, average low in the low 60s year-round, not far from the equator. A lot of sunshine, ideal weather, you know, temperature-wise. You know, pretty humid, not a rain certain times a year, but very green because of all that. Nature-wise is fucking gorgeous. Lake Victoria, the city butts up again, it's fucking gorgeous. Lake Victoria, the city butts up again to second largest freshwater lake on Earth in the largest in Africa with a surface area of more than 26,000 miles. A bunch of islands not far

out there, many of them populated. Largest lake in the world is actually Lake Superior, here in North America, over 31,000 square miles. Outside this big ass city on a big ass lake, most of Uganda's population remains rural, but it's only about a sixth of Ugandan's living in cities. The Ugandan population has grown rapidly since its independence, when it was approximately 7 million to now an estimated 45 million people. Largest age group, 48% consists of those who are 14 and under, only 2% of Ugandans over the age of 65 and that's not good. We'll soon see why that is.

Size-wise, Uganda, about the size of Great Britain, populated by dozens of ethnic groups, mostly due to the fact that when it obtained formal independence on October 9, 1962, its borders were ones that had been drawn, you know, in an artificial and arbitrary manner by European colonizers based on other colonizers demands based on one European country not wanting to go to war with another European country as opposed to doing what's best for the people living in that area. We talked a lot about, you know, how badly European colonizers colonizers, how they made a mess of Africa in time suck episode 72 with the borders, the colonial devastation of

Africa. Outside of a few nations like South Africa colonized by the Dutch in the 17th century, most Africa was colonized much more recently. Beginning in the late 19th century, lasting until World War I, not that long ago, several European colonial powers raced to carve up Africa, consume valuable natural resources. When they carved out territorial borders, they did so without thinking about who was fucking living inside any of these borders. All Africans, not the same at all. There is more diversity, actually, than there is in Europe. Just like the Scottish, not the same as the Italians, the Zulu, not the same as the Bantu, or Bantu. And within the Bantu, there are so many different subcultures, just like how there are different groups of Celtic or Germanic people in Europe. And as any

student of history knows, a lot of times different groups of people fucking hate each other. Right? They take each other's resources, kill each other's warriors, kidnapped and rape each other's women and slave each other's children, et cetera, et cetera. And when outside oppressors decide that different ethnic and cultural groups are now all citizens of the same nation, now problems are gonna arise. And then when colonizers leave and a power vacuum is created, civil wars almost always start. The various groups who have had their hatred of each other

suppressed by the colonizers, colonizers, you know, attacking to their all over again, off with more vigor, like they're making up for last time as they struggle for control over what will now, know who will run now the new nation left with the same arbitrary borders that the colonizer is drew up and this happened to just about all of Africa's nations including Uganda. Uganda's borders essentially encompass two different societies the centralized bantu, bantu kingdoms, excuse me of the south and the more decentralized, nilotic and Sudanic peoples to the North Bantu speakers from the largest portion of Uganda's population or format and of these Uganda remain the largest single ethnic group

About a six of the total national population other of Bantu speakers It's I can't I didn't put the pronunciation for that one. I was like I was positive I remember looking at me like yeah my instinct was And now I'm like, what was my instinct? It was a Bantu or Bantu. I think it's a Bantu. Other Bantu speakers include, and again, forgive my pronunciation, there's no guide that I can find that lists out how to say the majority

of these, all the videos I can find from many of them are in the language of the tribe that I'm trying to figure out a pronoun. So I have no fucking clue when they're saying the word I'm looking for, if they're saying the word I'm looking for. There are these saying the word I'm looking for, there are these sola, wary, gisu, nilan, samia, toro, nioro, kiga, niankole, amba, and jangio. But, but, nilatic languages spoken by and again, not a clue how to say most of these words. The acholi, Longo, Allure, Pahola, Kumam, Tiso,

Keramujong, Kakwa, Sebi groups, they're known by more than one tent of the population. These 32 languages are spoken in Uganda. English, Swahili, Ganda, they are the most commonly used. Religion-wise, Uganda is home to three major religious affiliations, kind of, indigenous religions, which there are many subsets, and then Islam and Christianity. So really a bunch of different, like, religious. Traditional indigenous beliefs practice in some rural areas, sometimes blended with or practice alongside Christianity or Islam, and more urban areas.

For an example of a local belief system, the Gonda people, or Buganda, they're a Bantu ethnic group, native to Buganda, a sub-national kingdom within Uganda. You can kind of think of it like in America, similar to like what the Cherokee Nation used to be. For an example of a local belief system, oh, sorry, I already read that part. Got distracted in my own head.

26.6% of Ugand's live in the Uganda kingdom, a Bantu kingdom, several hundred Bantu languages, roughly four fucking hundred distinct ethnic groups who speak Bantu languages. Overall, there are 3,000 different ethnic groups speaking more than 21 hundred different languages in all of Africa. Like I said, it's very diverse for comparison

some 160 culturally distinct groups in Europe. Well, about 200 different languages are spoken across Europe, only 24 native to Europe. Only Asia has more languages in Africa, roughly 2300, but not really because that's counting all the South Pacific island cultures, not actually on the Asian continent. The United States, the Great Melting Pop might look like the most diverse place to many, like New York City, San Francisco, at first glance, you see white, black, brown, Asian Pacific Islander, Nordic, African, Russian, South American, On and On, people from all over the world, to the untrained eye, a lot of people will not see a lot of diversity

in a place like Uganda. They'll see a lot of black people, and assuming the culture is way more homogenized than it actually is. But those black people are not the same. And many will be offended at the presumption of that kind, or any presumption of that kind. Now, when I had the pleasure of spending a month in South Africa many years ago, doing stand up,

I got in some conversations with some locals, found out real quick, it's how diverse the nation was, how differently racism can look. We're like, here, if the old stereotype is a a white dad not wanting his white daughter to marry a black man And you gondah that could be a member of one of the nation's 56 different tribes Forbidden his daughter to marry a dude from one of the other 56 tribes because that dude is from a tribe that he considers to be savage dirty Lazy insert whatever random slanderous description you want there But back to the indigenous beliefs of some members of the Begon de Kingdom.

Sorry, hard to not get pulled off course with all this shit. This information does pertain to our story. All that diversity being ignored by colonial oppressors created a lot of instability when they left which led to a lot of deaths in chaos and out of that chaos and death easier for a cult, like the movement to develop and grow, right? Chaos begets more chaos. Uh, also got distracted because this historical shit fascinates me and kind of pisses me off. Right, man, they learned almost fucking none of this shit in school.

Outrageous how little Americans growing up are taught about Africa or Asia or South America, US educational system is so Western European, uh, centric. And even then, we don't, or at least I didn't, even learn that much about Europe. Just America, like the rest of the world doesn't exist, right? No wonder there's big pockets and nationalism. Maybe a lot of you did learn more than I did. I didn't exactly receive a Rhodes Scholar level

of education back in Idaho County. But it did just beliefs now for real. Doesn't sound like many Ugandan's practice this religion anymore. And when they do, how they worship varies considerably from village to village, family to family. As there was no central text, just oral tradition. The Buganda believed in a spirit world

beyond the one that they could see. And this belief featured strong in their lives, both at the personal level, as well as in matters of state. The occupants of the spirit, world, can be considered to be on three levels. In this belief system, at the top, a supreme creator, Katanda. That name, meaning creator of all things, and Lord of Creation indicates that he is recognized to be superior to all, was referred to as the father of the gods,

think Zeus. Many years ago, there were three main shrines dedicated to Katanda and the Beganda Kingdom. There were priests dedicated to his worship. However, little was known of the supreme God and he was not expected to intervene routinely in human affairs. This now, now I pulled an audible and I said this, but actually I think Zeus had a dead. Forget my Greek analogy, it kind of works, but maybe not a hundred percent. The second level is Lubelle, I wish there are more than two dozen minor deities. Lubelle is where of major significance to the Began Nation, and the day-to-day life of the

people, the word Lubelle was translated as God by early writers in English, on Beganda, but the histories of the Lubelle's, which were well known to the Beganda, all tell of them having been humans, who having shown exceptional powers when alive, were venerated after death, and whose spirits were expected to intercede favorably in national affairs when asked. So they're more like the saints of Christian beliefs than true gods. They referred to, especially within Catholicism, they referred to by many as guardians, guardians for the focus of the organized religious activity of the kingdom, being recognized and venerated by all.

Even more important, they were the one institution which the king otherwise, almost an absolute ruler, could not ignore or disrespect without angriens people and perhaps being dethroned. Before all, major national events, such as coronations and wars, the oracles of the major temples were consulted and offerings were made. The guardians had various shrines, like how ancient Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Vikings, Aztecs, etc. had shrines for their various gods. Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Vikings, Aztecs, etc. had shrines for their various gods. And each shrine was headed by a priest or priestess, the Mondoah. Who, when the guardian spirit was upon him or her, also functioned as an oracle. Generally, the Mondoah, for a particular temple, was assigned to one clan of people who would

supply the priests and priestesses for the temple. Each guardian had at least one temple in which was kept a set of sacred drums, other ceremonial objects. The building and upkeep of the temples was governed by very elaborate and exacting rituals. The most popular guardian was Mokasa, guardian of the lake. He had temples in his honor all over the country, but the chief temple was on a Bubenbe Island in Lake Victoria. To this temple, the king would send an annual offering of cows and a request for prosperity

and good harvests. Next his temple was one to his wife, Nalwanga, to whom women could pray for fertility. The other nationaly renowned guardian was Kibuka. His legend tells that he was a general of such great prowess that it was said to him that he could fly like a bird over the battlefield. The guardian of war's temple was sadly desecrated by British colonizers. Many of the contents, either spread out around the world in various museum collections,

or in the hands of private collectors or just lost a history. About 80% of Uganda's population is Christian, primarily divided between Roman Catholics and Protestants, but a lot of those Christians, you know, also are people who believed in the types of religions I just explained. It all just kind of got blended,

so it's a little bit more mystical. Christian missionaries didn't arrive in Uganda until the end of the 19th century. And in many parts of rural Uganda until well after that, about eight to the population is Muslim. And yeah, the rest still just only practicing traditional religions like I just described. Like in other parts of Africa, Islam, Christianity have been combined again with indigenous religions to forms and credit religious trends. And the blending created mystical versions of Islam and Christianity created beliefs

that have seen more change in recent years, which allows the splinter groups, cults, ideas to not seem quite so radical. Christianity came to Uganda during the colonial period through spirited missionary activity. Okay, let's break away from establishing how diverse, diverse Uganda is now in its religious makeup and talk about how tribal divisions

led to a lot of political instability, the background of the people who grew up to become these cults members and rulers. Under British colonial rule, the economic power and education was concentrated in the South as a result of Bantu people who made up the majority of the new nation's population in the south came to dominate modern Uganda Occupying most of the high academic judicial bureaucratic and religious positions and a whole range of other prestigious roles

However, the British then recruited overwhelmingly from the north for the armed forces police and paramilitary forces and the Nilotic tribes made up the north collectively sometimes referred to as the Lu-O people of Uganda. So while economic power in the South, military power concentrated the North, and this imbalance, these two groups have historically not gotten along that well, this imbalance to a large extent shaped the political events of post-colonial Uganda. British colonizers seem to ignore how different these two groups were, how much they did not get along. And they would simply see a magical place for the wildlife and precious resources, not the instability they were actively creating. As Winston Churchill

would write, Uganda is a fairy tale. You climb up a railway instead of a beanstalk. And at the end, there was a wonderful new world. He'd call it the Pearl of Africa, but he didn't really understand it. After achieving independence, things in Uganda would be shaky at best. Uganda formally achieved its independence from the UK became a member of the Commonwealth of Nations, October 19, 1962. Milton Obote, leader of Ugandan peoples Congress became prime minister, Edward Fredrick, Muteza II, King of Buganda, elected president October 9, 1963, almost immediately several government soldiers rebel against the government near Lake Victoria.

Sarge January 23, 1964, and Prime Minister Abote request British military assistance January 24th, the next day. Some 500 British troops not nearly enough deployed in support of the government on January 25th, but the British would withdraw from the county or the country, excuse me, August 1st of August 1st of that year with the British, with the, excuse me, with the prime minister assuming emergency powers. Predezzant Muteza was deposed and then he later led a rebellion against the government in 1966.

A new constitution is written a year later, but then in 1969 President Abote declared the state of emergency and bans all opposition political parties. The chaos is beginning. Then just two years later, President Abote deposed in a military coup by General Edie Amine January 25, 1971. General Amine appoints himself president for life naturally as one does. And President Abote heads into exile in Tanzania. General Amin, very important to today's story.

This guy's a mother fucker. A member of the small Coquah ethnic group of Northwestern Uganda, Amin, had little formal education, joined the king's African rifles of the British colonial army in 1946 as an assistant cook. Then quickly rose to the ranks became one of the few Ugandan soldiers elevated to officer ranks before independence is achieved in 1962. After his successful military coup, he becomes president, right, chief of the armed forces. In 1971, field marshal 1975, president for life 1976. But really he was, you know, leading things as a

dictator just the whole time, just, you know, fucking titles don't really matter. Came to power in an era marked by instability and poor economic conditions, including a cattle population that was declining significantly because of disease, cattle rustling, malnutrition, which left the population rightfully worried about starvation. And then a mean would fix everything. No, of course not. No, he'd make everything so much fucking worse. He was a huge piece of shit. Like many dictators, a mean ruled directly, shunning the delegation of power. He was noted for his abrupt changes of mood.

Also known for being a fucking idiot in many ways. The leader of Uganda now someone who's borderline illiterate known for being gentle in some moments, tyrants and others, but mostly a tyrant. Instead of working on Uganda's economic or political stability, I mean expelled all Asians from Uganda. Just fucking all of them. Get out 1972. but mostly the tyrant said working on a Uganda's economic or political stability. A mean expelled all Asians from Uganda. Just fucking all of them get out 1972 and action that led directly to the breakdown of Uganda's economy. Also publicly insulted great Britain, U.S. as well as numerous other world leaders really isolated himself from any help from anybody else.

Took a tribalism, he took tribalism, excuse me, a long standing problem in Uganda to its extreme by ordering the persecution of a Choli, Longo and other ethnic groups, right? Just like let's fucking kill these people. A mean came to be known as the Butcher of Uganda for his brutality, estimated that hundreds of thousands of people were killed countless others tortured as a direct result of his rule. Even had a personal murder, murder factory, a pink L-shaped building high on Nakasaro Hill in Kampala. The official name for this murder factory was the state, research bureau. The SRB sounds pretty benign. The bureau had little to do with the fairies of state. Research wasn't the type of thing you'd see taking place in this building. It

was actually the headquarters for EDA Amines dreaded secret police. Here, enemies of the state, which people didn't like, brought for slaughter. Officers became torture chambers, where crazed agents of Amine, strangled, tortured, shot, beheaded victims. Sometimes as many as 20 would die in a single day. An Anglican pastor, the Reverend George Luke, Luke Wea, was one of the few

survivors this place. And he said, one day the secret police picked me up, saying that I had made an attempt to assassinate President Amin. It was a ridiculous charge, but there was no convincing these people. So they brought me to the SRB. Didn't take them long to strip me, start beating me. Many of my attackers were high on drugs and alcohol. Every time they tortured me, I thought it would soon be all over. They kept demanding to confession,

but I had nothing to confess so they just continued to beat me with the butts of their rifles. For three months, I lived in constant fear, and quite often I would pray, God, please let me die quickly. And at one time, I found myself in a 10 foot by 16, 10 by 16 foot room with 60 other prisoners, 60 people in a 10 by 16 foot room. Every day, one of those men would either die or be murdered. Usually, the guards would just leave the dead bodies there in the cell. Often, we had corpses all around us for more than a week. The smell was horrible. We tried to pile them up in a corner and cover them. Sometimes we'd go for two weeks without water. Prisoners became so thirsty, they drank each other's urine.

We considered ourselves lucky if we got food twice a week. This Reverend once watched guards kill another prisoner with a fucking hammer. So it took him about 10 minutes. Women often died more quickly because the guards would often just simply cut their throats, but only usually after they've been raped. People were brought to the factory, you know, people were brought to the factory. People were brought to the factory by a mean secret agent who had speed through villages and their land rovers and private automobiles and just fucking kidnaps people. The killers would bind victims

with ropes, throw them to the ground, shoot them or douse them with gasoline, set them on fire if they didn't bring them back to be tortured. Screams for mercy, death screams would ring out to the surrounding blocks around this murder factory Well, the mean targeted many really anyone opposed to his regime. He had it out for Christians in particular As a Muslim he wanted to declare Uganda a Muslim state Despite the fact that the overwhelming though the vast majority of Ugandan's were Christian I mean spies would often sit quietly in church services days later certain members of the congregation would just disappear Most simply shot others again, you know tortured some actually fed to crocodiles like they were fucking mice being fed to a snake

This son of a bitch was as ruthless and sadistic as any serial killer We have ever covered but he had a lot of minions doing most of the actual killing for him and then ended up with a far higher body count To be a Christian living under a means regime was to constantly fear that you were about to be tortured and killed. When that is the climate you're living in, does the apocalypse really seem all that bad? Might you maybe start rooting for the apocalypse? Or would it cause you to walk away from God? This chaos and death created a lot of wavering faith for many Ugandan Christians. You know, Ugandan Christians, excuse me, people left wondering how their God would let such a thing happen.

This will be very important in the story of the movement, right? Going back to the timeline in October of 1978, I mean, ordered an attack on Tanzania. Aided by Ugandan nationalists, Tanzanian troops eventually overpower the Ugandan Army. As the Tanzanian led forces, near Kampala, Ugandan's capital on April 11, 1979, Amin fled. He was succeeded as president by Yusufu Lulei two days later. After escaping first to Libya, Amin made it to Saudi Arabia, would remain there until his death in 2003. The butcher lived comfortably until he was either 78 or 77 or 78. So that's a bummer. After his departure, the legacy of instability in Uganda lived on during the conflict with Tanzania, around 3500 people were killed, including some 440 Tanzanian soldiers, 200 Libyan soldiers,

around 100,000 people, regular civilians amongst them displaced. Political corruption in Uganda is rife throughout all of this. Bribes are common taxes not used to help people, but to make politicians and their minions wealthy at the expense of the people. President Lulei only ruled for a few months. So much instability. Followed by President Godfrey, Benayisa, who ruled for less than a year. Then Paulo, Moonga, also ruled less than a year. Then Paulo, Moanga, also ruled less than a year.

Moanga's brutal is a mean. Moanga chaired the ruling military commission that organized the December 1980 general elections. The Ugandan peoples' Congress was declared winner of those elections, though they were marred by multiple irregularities. I mean, the election was completely rigged. Now, for a second time, previously ruling as Prime Minister Milton Abote becomes president of Uganda.

He'll run this fucking shit show for four and a half years. During his tenure, Uganda is hit hard by the AIDS pandemic. Really fucking kicked the nuts when they're already down. Economy still enchantables. Some residents in southern Uganda believe that the Tanzanian soldiers introduced HIV into the region during the war with Tanzania, spreading the disease by raping civilians. And that might be true. In 1982, the first causes of what they called slim disease at that time was identified. The disease not recognized as being AIDS until 1985.

During this time, it spreads rapidly, reaches epidemic proportions. Most people there don't know that. portions. Most people there don't know that. Uh, you'll worry, Musevini becomes president in 1926. And this dude is still fucking president. We run on the show for over 36 years now. Many consider him a dictator who much like Putin, right, holds rig elections to make it seem like he just keeps being the people's choice. And like Putin, he changes term limit laws, you know, age, you know, limit laws, things like that in order to stay in power.

But at least he's better than a mean and several other previous brutal rulers. Musevon, he learned of his country's AIDS problem from Cuba's president, Fidel Castro. It's a September, 1986, you know, former president, of course, he's passed on now. The September, 1986 meeting of non-aligned heads of state, Castro pulled Moussevone aside and he said, he told me that of the 60 soldiers we had sent to Cuba for training, 18 of them had the AIDS virus. He was therefore worried that it may reflect what level of prevalence was in the population.

President Moussevone then spearheaded a massive education campaign promoting a three pronged AIDS prevention message, abstinence from sexual activity until marriage, monogamy within marriage, condoms as a last resort. Oh boy, maybe she'll have to lead with condoms. These fuckers never want to be realistic and aligned PSAs with basic human nature. The message was marketed as ABC. Absence, be faithful, use a condom. Okay. I'll just message it also address a high rate of concurrency in Uganda, which refers to the widespread cultural practice there at the time of maintaining two or more sexual partners simultaneously. It was rare for Ugandan men to have just one woman in fidelity was culturally pretty expected,

if not condoned. Mass media campaigns also targeting this practice included the zero grazing and love carefully public health messages in the 1990s. Zero grazing. The weird image, just picture a cow, just grazing through a field of pus. In total, it's estimated that 400,000 of 450,000 Ugandans died from HIV AIDS most in the 80s and 90s. At some point in the late 80s, early 90s, HIV AIDS associated with the deaths of about 50% of adults in some areas of Uganda. The epidemic reached a peak in the 80s before later dropping off in the 90s.

Not only were people dying of AIDS at this time, but the economy. Still tanking. Tanking to the point that it led many to die from starvation and other illnesses. The economy deteriorated under the rule of President of mean from 1971, 1979. He'd expelled many of the country's prominent business owners, many just fled. So they would be fucking tortured and killed. He'd increased spending on military goods, all of which led to the economy, being almost completely destroyed by the 1980s.

The economic and political destruction of the Amin years contributed to a record decline in earnings. They dropped by almost 15% between 1978 and 1980. Man, when Amin fled, in 1979, the nation's GDP measured only 80% of the 1970 level. That's terrible. Industry decline sharply is equipment, spare parts, raw materials became scarce.

You've gone to just barely escaped widespread famine in the late 70s and early 80s only because many people even urban residents Revered to substance cultivation in order to survive bartering food for other goods This society is going backwards. Oh, of course this causes problems with regulation and taxation leading to more instability fluctuation the economy problems with regulation and taxation, leading to more instability, fluctuation, the economy. Then there would be even more political upheaval. When Mouseventy's new national resistance movement ceases power in January of 86, luckily their program for economic rehabilitation would secure some semblance of political stability, security and law and order.

But in the midst of all this instability, years and years of it, many Ugandans turned to some weird religious shit to cope with living in a continually burning, fucking dumpster fire. These poor people, disease, war, brutal leaders who tortured and killed them, borderline famine, starvation, no financial stability, right? This was all many Ugandans living in extreme poverty had ever known. All this shook the face of many of Ugandans Catholics. The Catholic Church New Uganda had once been a fruitful mix of local religious tradition and institutional authority from the Church with multiple lay orders like the brothers of Charles LaWanga, the sisters of the Virgin, the little sisters of St. Francis.

The Church was known as the place where the Kabaka, the spiritual king, and the Bagandhu people dwelt, and the Virgin Mary was also Africanized. There were other imaginative translations of Christian concepts into local terms, such as referring to a guardian angel as a blood brother. Basically, Ugandan Catholics had blended again, right? As I spoke before, there are local traditions with Catholic ones, forming beliefs that supplemented each side of the traditions and created a pretty robust Catholic population there. But now with so many years of fucking death, destruction, chaos, corruption, a lot of Catholic

faith is wavering. People are becoming, of course, pessimistic, fatalistic, the faithful becoming less faithful by the day. Though Catholics were now free to practice their religion openly, unlike how it had been actually for a while during the Amin rule, many of the clergy members killed off in a means killing factories or just sometimes fucking assassinated on the street, leaving a vacuum in the leadership in this void many Catholic groups formed in the late 80s.

But these confused and traumatized people wouldn't turn to the old blend of indigenous religion Catholic and said they turned to charismatic self declared Messiah to announce the authority of the government and the church with these new groups. Many of these fuckers insanely corrupt, they'll crop a cult leader springing up chaos creating more and more chaos. The movement for the restoration of the 10 Commandments of God would be just one of many of these groups. Now, a lot of these groups, like the Holy Spirit movement, had leaders who claimed to receive

version, visions, excuse me, from the Virgin Mary or of the Virgin Mary. Even non-coat leaders were seeing the Virgin Mary. She was fucking busy. She was appearing all over East Central Africa in the 80s and 90s. One early appearance of Mary was on November 28, 1901 when Alfoncene, uh, Mumurek, a 16 year old Catholic school student at, uh, Cabello High School in Rwanda claimed to see a lady of incomparable beauty who presented herself under the name that means mother of the word. Alfoncene immediately recognized her as the Virgin Mary, but not everyone believed her.

At first, Alfoncene was viewed as a crazy or unhappy girl, maybe possessed by evil, or according to some, a mediocre student wanting to play a prank to make her more accepted at her high school. According to one source students and teachers said they'd believe her if the Virgin Mary appeared again to anyone besides Alfoncene. But literally Alfon believe her if the Virgin Mary appeared again to anyone besides Alfonsoean.

And allegedly Alfonsoean asked the Virgin to respond to the challenge by appearing to others. Short time later, two new alleged seers appeared in the high school, one after the other, two of her fellow students in 1982. Different witnesses interrogated, you know, Kiboho, excuse me, Kiboho, yeah, high school in 1982 and declared that they, you know, we're believing them. They believed that these operations were real.

More people start claiming to see the operations, you know, more still, apparently the Virgin asked everybody to convert, keep faith, pray without hypocrisy, pray to prevent, you know, terrible wars, and more visions in August of 1922, when this is report seen violence, dismembered corpses destruction stories of these visions quickly make their way to Uganda where fringe religious movements are already taking hold and 1906 a girl from a wanda claiming a connection with the operations seen in that school in cabejo a sightings now recognized by the roman catholic church instantly attracts crowds she later moves to uh mubei in the in the diocese of Masaka, where our cult today

will begin to grow. Interestingly, the messages allegedly received from heaven put great emphasis upon AIDS exactly as the literature of the movement for the restoration will do. The Virgin Mary expected to reveal a cure for AIDS according to this week's cult at one point. Okay, now with all this background in mind, now let's meet the leaders of the movement. The crazy leaders, if I can grow up in a chaotic place, the five primary leaders were Joseph Kibbutari, Joseph Kasa Purari, John Kamagara, Dominic Kutori Babu,

and Kradonia Mwinde. Joseph Kibbutari was maybe kind of initially the main leader of the movement, though this is someone up for debate. We'll get into actually who ran the group in just a bit. And we don't know much about this guy. Many details of Joseph's life, especially his death, remain unclear. We do know that he was born in 1932. We know he came from a strongly pious Catholic background likely wealthy by Ugandan standards

We know that because he ran for political office in 1980 apparently self-funded and had enough land to donate Some some land to found his own school which he would design The Catholic school he founded was a run of the mill school not a cult and allowed him to bolster his image in the eyes The community gave him a lot of credibility also know that 1960 he married a woman named Teresa. At the time he was working as a assistant supervisor of the areas Catholic schools. Later became a government overseer of building and agricultural projects. And then Joseph and Teresa would eventually have 16 children together. Fucking 16 coming out of one vagina.

That's that's rough math. A poor woman. I picture her by the end there tucking her uterus and do her sock. At some point the family moved to a rush amirai where they own several properties, hundreds of cattle and a million business that they're killing it. And then he would start to see strange visions or so he claimed. Maybe saw visions, maybe saw opportunities for a man who saw visions, but he probably saw visions. As we'll learn towards the end of the episode, he did definitely suffer some mental illness.

The atmosphere of Uganda that we just covered, one of chaos and superstition illness and a need to believe in miracles may have influenced him quite a bit with his visions. April of 1984, Joseph would first claim sightings of the Virgin Mary. In the first supposed vision, the message of the Blessed Virgin Mary to him was that there was widespread moral decadence, which would result in tradition and Christian theology, a state of eternal punishment,

and damnation into which a sinful and unpentient person passes that for death. Pintinent, unless people, the world, you know, over change their ways, reinstituted a life based on the biblical Ten Commandments. So now for that, he founds the movement. His wife is the first convert to join. I mean, yeah, sure, I get it. Where's she going? All right, she's tied to this dude through 16 kits. Then around 1989, he will meet a woman named Crodonia Mwinde.

The main star, I guess, of our show today. If the group's organizational structure and ability to raise funds and avoid law enforcement scrutiny came from Joseph, many of the group's core messages will come from Codonia, the real cult leader. She's born in 1952. Some sources have varying years, most settled around 1952. You know, had a long history of having the kind of sideings that Joseph claimed to have back in 1984.

She claims she could see the Virgin Mary when looking at a stone in the mountains But the stone was the spitting image of the woman who would give in birth to Jesus Huh, I'd like to see that rock Have a hard time imagining just a random natural rock Looking exactly like Jesus's mom Unless she was you know Like Jesus' mom, not unless she was, you know, extremely unattractive. I doubt any woman wants to be told by anyone that they just saw a rock who looked exactly like her. Cradonia's visions may have come from her family's influence.

Her father, Paolo Kashaku, claimed to have had a vision of his dead daughter, Evangialista, as early as 1960. Apparently, everyone's having fucking visions back then. Mother Mary talking to a lot of people in a Apparently everyone's having fucking visions back then. Mother Mary talking to a lot of people in a country that's being mother fucked by poverty, AIDS war, corrupts, ruthless rulers, et cetera. Man, if I was hearing about all this back then,

I'd be getting pretty pissed at her. Hey Mary, less cameos, much more actual help. Okay, fuck the drop-ins, let's cure AIDS or shit, some shit already. At least give us a decent ruler. Little actual help for once would be nice. The apparition of Pablo's dead daughter told him that he would continue to have visions of having.

That's cool. A vision that you're gonna have more visions. Very helpful. Come on, Maribar. These give one of these vision beholders a cool t-shirt or something. This prediction passed 1988. When he saw Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary and St. Joseph, he thought his visions were complete. He had his tour. Now, Jesus and the company had other

appearances to make. Busy schedule, I'm sure. Gridonia, evidently took up the family business. In 1989, Gridonia and her sister Ursula traveled through Uganda, spread in the family's messages. By that time, she'd had an eventful life that included divorce and remarriage and some kind of and her sister Ursula traveled through Uganda, spread in the family's messages. By that time, she'd had an eventful life that included divorce and remarriage and some kind of concubine edge according to one source. She was a ledgerly despised in her community for being infertile, as well as for being a barmaid

in her hometown of Kunugu, Kunungu, excuse me. Few sources also said she worked as a sex worker for a couple of years, before helping run a cult. So then she abandoned her life, folks that on receiving and passing on her messages. One of her sessions, she leads her band of followers back to the Neobogato Caves, the former center of the activities of the Nia Bingi, an ancient or traditional oracle or fertility. The message that came from the visions were then recorded on tapes, which were then distributed. So what were those super helpful and important messages?

According to Crodonia, the Virgin Mary had informed her that she had returned to save the world from destruction. Nice! Fuck yeah bro, big stakes. Right, the biggest. The Virgin Mary went on to tell Crodonia that God was angry. All right, that, you know, people aren't following all his teachings, but how was she supposed to save the world? Mary said that the 10 commandments were being broken by humanity too much, and God and his anger was now deciding to destroy them as in all of humanity. The Virgin Mary, however, then pleaded with God to allow Jesus and her to return to earth in order to command humanity to repent and obey the 10 commandments before it's too late and

Then God greatest mind in the galaxy source of all wisdom and knowledge master and creator of the universe Responded telling her that no they can suck my mother fucking nuts I'd rather shove all the Jupiter up my ass hold and let these dipshits enjoy another slice apple pie or butt cake No more spaghetti or tacos or blow jobs or rolling clitorial orgasms, or back rubs, or anything fun, for these dumb fuck, hairless pieces of shit, I hate them all, especially the Polish ones. And then God project out vomited

to emphasize his holy disgust with humanity. Gosh dang, that's not what Codonia said happened. No, she said they got told Mary, you cannot man, I'm gonna do the movie voice again. You cannot manage them, they are spoiled. I'm gonna do the movie voice again. You cannot manage them. They are spoiled. I sent them my only son, Jesus Christ, who taught them, counseled them, cured their sickness, made their cripples walk, restored sight to the blind, and made the dumb speak.

Instead of being grateful to him for all of this, they made him suffer. Instead of becoming righteous, they killed him. Let me deal with them as they deserve and give them what they merit. I bit the Michael Bay explosions. I don't know about this vision. God doesn't seem to forgive him here. Also, he seems a little checked out regarding what's been going on on an earth, you know, for the past couple thousand years. Yeah, Jesus was treated poorly, very poorly by by by a few guys almost two thousand years ago, why are people in Uganda getting trouble for that in the 1990s?

Talk about a delayed reaction. And humanity has been punished plenty. Hello, bubonic plagues, manifest destiny, holocaust, crusade, Stalin, so many wars, famine, seagrises, city sacked, people raped and slaves, etc. A lot of punishment already been dished out. Credonia said that the Virgin Mary then prostrated herself before God. Asked for the chance to save at least a few thousand souls. Come on, please from destruction.

In this vision, Jesus also supported his mom, imploring his father to allow her to return to earth and undertake the mission. Is God a loving omnipotent being in this vision or like an angry dad in a lifetime network melodrama? I'm waiting for him to get drunk and start slapping Mary around in front of his son. Simulian moved by these requests, God does give both of his permission. You know, not excited. Be grudgingly gives permission to spread the word to the world, telling them, if only a few repent, it is those only that I will forgive. If there are many, so many will be saved. Even if one repents alone, he will also be forgiven. Noise! Open in the cult door here.

Come with me, kid. I'll, I alone will spare you from God's wrath. Cult, cult, cult. With all these messages in her mind, clearly laying the groundwork to form a small group of the faithful. She will meet Joseph. In 1991, Joseph Caputari travels to Naya Mitanga, Uganda to here, Crodonia, Moinday, the two apparently get along like a house on

fire. Pun intended. They validate each other's own experiences or cons. According later to Joseph's son, Rugamwe, the next thing we knew, she was in our house and they decided to start their cult here. Sun is using the word cult. Soon she was beating us all. My father was an awe of her and we do anything she said. This would lead to their forming the movement. Naya Matanga became the head quarters of the movement for three years until they moved to Kanago in 1994 by this time. Kibutari had separated from his wife and had been ex-communicated from the Roman Catholic Church. Why do they get separated?

Sources don't say. But I have to think in part because he and Cradonia, they had to be fucking right. Probably, or maybe it's crazy, just finally became too much for his wife and she's like, I'm taking my 16 kids and I'm leaving. The pair leads this new Colt A. Starter counts various to which one held ultimate authority,

but most sacred on you throughout the nineties the group grew rapidly uh... also attracted several defraught catholic priest and none to work to steal agents for them rationalizing messages from leadership put in the right language for the followers to early arrivals uh... were the excommunicated priest paulie cazir and dominek kati bobby dominek uh... oak cattari bobby was particularly important to the groups

authority and Dominic Cati Bobble. Dominic, oh, Cattari Bobble was particularly important to the group's authority. He was respected, popular priest with a PhD from the US. The Los Angeles Archdiocese records would show that Cati Cattari Bobble was awarded a full loyla, Mariamount Scholarship in 1985 under a university program benefiting third world priests. University spokesman at the time, Norm Schneider reviewing Katari Bobble's record said he seemed to be pretty ordinary. He seems uh, undistinguished. Whenever the last you go do some shit. Uh, Katari Bobble lived at St. Anthony's Parish, Rectorine, El Segundo, just south LA, not far from LAX. I've been by it. He graduated 1987,

then uh, the ordained priest from Uganda left the US on July 10th, 1987, right, heading back. No more in and out burger, no more ponchos, tacos, much more cult. Back in Uganda, he would soon be disciplined by his Ugandan bishop who reprimanded and eventually excommunicated him in the early 90s for raising funds for the movement cult. Eventually, left the church worked exclusively for the movement. He's now assumed to be dead, having perished on March 17, 2000, like much of the movement's members. Paul, it causer.

I can't figure out. I really had a pronounced name. Different story. Paul was a former Roman Catholic priest who joined the cult in his early days, but then broke away in the mid 90s, which of course allowed him to survive and give interviews following the mass suicide slash murders. Mr. Acazir told reporters we joined the movement as a protest against the Catholic Church. We had good intentions. The church was backsliding. The priests were covered in scandals and the AIDS scourge was taken as told in the faithful. The world seemed poised to end. A lot of people in sources for this story refer to quote unquote scandals in the Catholic Church and Uganda in the 80s and 90s, but never say exactly what the scandals were.

Based on the interviews of some African priest decades later, it seems the local papers did mention a lot of accusations of sexual abuse, sadly, of course. The stories just did not circulate into worldwide news. Beginning in 1994, the movement developed as an uh, order to community adherence accepting a disciplined life and new behavioral rules as conditions of membership. The primary center was in Kananga, other groups emerged at several nearby towns, and as it grew their system of belief got uh, stranger and stranger. Influenced by uh, more and more of Credonia's so-called visions. Oh boy, here comes a fun part.

Let's get into these beliefs now. On one level, the movement's tenants couldn't have been more basic. Follow the Ten Commandments and preach the word of Jesus Christ. Before we get into their crazy, let's establish what are the Ten Commandments? Ten Commandments are written about in the book Exodus, second book of the Christian Bible, chapter 20 verses 1 through 17. Also show up in the book of Deuteronomy, fifth book of the Bible, chapter five, verses six through 21,

a set of biblical principles relating to ethics and worship. Play a pretty fundamental role in Judaism and Christianity. Many of these, actually most of these laws show up in the Islamic faith as well. At the point in the Old Testament, where they come up God has chosen Moses to deliver his people from the bondage of slavery in Egypt, my partner Red Sea, so the Israelites, God's chosen people in Judeo-Christian tradition,

could cross the freedom. And the Lord said unto Moses, come unto me into the mount and be there, and I will give thee tablets of stone and a law and commandments which I have written that Thou mayest teach them, and Moses rose up in his minister Joshua and Moses went up into the mount of God. Moses then led them to Mount Sinai where God gave Moses a 10 commandments as well as the other laws for living the right way. The 10 commandments never actually referred to as 10 commandments or as follows. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Th shout not make unto thee any grave in images, meaning no false idols. Lot of products and Christians don't think Catholic Christians? Fall this one too well. What's with all the statues and stained glass images? Idolaters. Third,

thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God and vain. But remember the Sabbath day, keep it holy the fifth honor they father and mother, the six thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not commit adultery. Thou shalt not steal. The ninth, thou shalt not bear false witness. Ten, thou shalt not rape Ronnie Joe back in risk of his life by penetrating his fragile patty, the bell to any line, put puddle.

Sorry, throw back two weeks ago there. No, I should have said, thou shalt not covet. Think of it a few weeks back, God, maybe should have added. Don't fucking diddle the littles, either. Be like, that one's more important to follow than coveting or honoring that father and mother, especially if one of the parents is doing the diddling. According to a passage in the first book of Kings, the tablets that bore the 10 commandments were ultimately placed in the arc of the covenant. Scholars disagree about when the 10 commandments were written and by whom, with some modern scholars suggesting

that they were modeled on Hittite and Mesopotamian, Mesopotamian laws and treaties. Basically, the fundamentals of ethics on top of which you can build a society. Like we said, the 10 commandments concern matters of fundamental importance, Judaism and Christianity. Unless the greatest hits of ethical living, right?

The greatest obligation to worship only God. the greatest injury to a person, murder, the greatest injury to family bonds, adultery, the greatest injury to commerce and law, bearing false witness, the greatest intergenerational obligation, honor your parents, the greatest obligation to community, truthfulness, the greatest injury to movable property, theft. They'd also be repeated in the New Testament during Jesus' sermon on the Mount according to the book of Matthew, right? Chapter 19, verses 16 to 19, and behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, What good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why call us thou me good?

There is none good but one. That is God. But if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. He says unto him, which, Jesus said, thou shalt do no murder, thou shalt not commit adultery, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not bear false witness, honor thy father and thy mother, and thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. This is what a particular relevance for most Christian sects, including Roman Catholicism, what the movement grew out of, and Catholicism Jesus-freeed

Christians from the rest of Jewish religious laws such as their puritary or purity and dietary rituals, but not from their obligation to keep the Ten Commandments. According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, the official exposition of the Catholic Church's beliefs, the commandments are considered essential for spiritual good health and growth, and serve as the basis of social justice. But rules like the Ten Commandments are considered essential for spiritual good health and growth and serve as the basis of social justice. But rules like the 10 commandments are not just for Catholics, right? Almost every religion has a set of foundational rules. Like the Quran's three verses of the Sura-Anam, which states, among other things, to honor your parents, to not kill your children for fear of poverty. That's sad that that one had to be fucking put in a book. Okay, when you get that time get tough. Please don't kill the kids

Not to take a life except justly not to come near the property of the orphan except to enhance it and to follow God's path and not any other Among other rules the movement cult would take these basic societal principles to a whole new level Since most of the groups members, right originally Roman Catholic They already had a firm understanding of the commandments Most of the group's members, right, originally Roman Catholic. They already had a firm understanding of the commandments. But since the Catholic Church is highly centralized and has a clear authority structure, how are these leaders of this new movement called supposed to gain their own power?

Well, they did it by convincing group members that the Catholic Church was the enemy while also publicly still claiming to follow the pope to avoid suspicion from authorities. Initially, they claimed that instead of coming from a sinful person like the Pope or Cardinals, the group's rules came directly from the Virgin Mary, channeled via Cradonia Mwenda. Don't trust the Pope, trust the Virgin Mary, I mean, Cradonia.

She's kind of the Virgin Mary's oracle. Their emphasis on the commandments was so strong that the group discouraged talking for fear of breaking the ninth commandment, thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Don't fucking risk it. Here's where shit gets good and weird and very funny now to me, at least me, sex. Usually this commandment interpreted, uh, is interpreted as line, but this group took it so far that any kind of speech could be considered bearing false witness.

How did they arrive at that? Who the fuck knows? Probably through a bunch of confusing, super long, word-salad, heavy sermons, where eventually no one knew what the hell, anyone was talking about. And when the leader said that any kind of talking was bearing false witness,

there was probably a collective shoulder shrug, you know, sentiment of like, okay, I guess that makes sense. And you know, go on, just not want you to lie, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no lie. Of course. And you know, God does not want you to spread rumors about your neighbors, right?

Yeah, totally. 100%. God hates that. And you know, God does not want you to spread rumors about anyone or tell any lies, right? Yeah. No, that's, that's right. Neighbors probably just a term for other people in general.

Nah, I buy that. And you know that language can be interpreted as being a social construct, one that allows for other social constructs to be created, just ideas that have been imagined up and accepted by people and therefore are subjective. And what one person may consider a lie might not be what another person considers to be a lie,

like a lie of omission, which lead us into waters of moral relativism, especially considering rumors. Truth is in the eye of the beholder, false memory syndrome is a real thing, group hypnosis is a real thing, as our hallucinations, so really you could think you see something happen and it does happen in your mind's eye, but it does not happen in the eyes of the minds around you, the nature of reality. So, fragile in many ways. I mean, what even is reality? What is real? Why restrain nation over something subjective? Why not embrace salvation fully by keeping your mouth totally closed and any possible I mean, right?

Wow, I Kind of just kind of blew my mind there not even Shrush verbally answer. I'm I'm afraid of Baring false witness now, so shit. Did I just do it? That is like what is a lie? I'm scared. I think what is scared? I don't be quiet now. We're not safe Or something like that maybe not that detailed What is a lie? I'm scared, I think what is scared? I wanna be quiet now, we're not safe. Or something like that, maybe not that detailed. On some days communication was only conducted in sign language, fast were conducted regularly. Only one meal was eaten on Fridays,

and Monday sex was forbidden as was soap, why soap? That answer also doesn't seem to be given in sources. I wanna guess it has something to do with vanity, right pride. Maybe quote in verses like Proverbs 31, 30, right? Charm is deceptive and beauty is fleeting, but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised. You find yourself so charming with your beauty,

with your beautiful scent, horlict. You think your sex, your cleanliness will bring you joy. It will certainly not bring your salvation no more soap. I just wanted to save money on soap or some shit. Move what also turned to another fringe religious element, the coming apocalypse of course, when so many of these cold skitt doom and gloom they seem to inevitably reach a point of the world is ending soon. Even the new age ones, this doesn't have to be Abrahamic religions or anything.

Right, the age of Aquarius is almost upon us. Rejoice those of you who you know are not killed to make wave or a new and better world. Stick with me if you want to be part of the in group. The cult taught that to avoid the abomination in the apocalypse, one had to strictly follow the commandments as they interpreted them and holy shit to the interpret them weirdly. Right. Stay close or perish. cult, cult, cult. In the 1990s, they strongly emphasized an apocalyptic focus

in their smash hit booklet, a timely message from heaven, the end of the present time. This book is an unintentional comedy classic, coach on this book, are my favorite. I think there's some vision south, it's also my favorite. Well, now the visions are in the book, you know, it is, it is my favorite from this episode. In the book, the group predicted several dates for the end of the world before finally finally landed on the year 2000, right?

The third edition of the handbook mainly written by Dominic Catari Babu, that executed priest who studied Nelsa Gonduc California, proclaimed, all of you living on the planet, listen to what I'm going to say. When the year 2000 is completed, the year that will follow will not be year 2001. The year that will follow shall be called year one in a generation that will follow the present generation. The generation that will follow will have few or many people depending on who will repent. The Lord told me that hurricanes of fire would rain forth from heaven and spread over all those Who would not have repented

These doomed day guys, right for all the Bible verse, quote, and they do they never seem to focus on chapter 24 of the book of Matthew as Jesus, you know sits upon the Mount of Olives as disciples come to him privately saying tell us when will these be? And what will be the sign of your coming? As in, when will be the second coming? And the end times, when will they begin? And eventually in verse 36, Jesus says, but concerning that day and hour, no one knows. Not even the angels of heaven, nor the sun, but the Father only.

To me, that verse is as direct warning, to not be a doomsday prick, right? Don't worry about the end. It's fucking have a good life. Shout the fuck out about the end. New code members were not required to study the Bible, but were required, of course, to study a timely message from heaven, the end of the present time, and be trained in his text, reading it so many times they would have to practically memorize it. And of course the group instilled a number

of cult rules. The handbook would explain it this way. Hours is not a religion, but a movement. Hence the name, that endeavors to make the people aware of the fact that the commandments of God have been abandoned. And it gives what should be done for their observance. How are these tenants abandoned? Well, for one accordion of them in modern society, girls prefer, sorry, girls prefer wearing men's trousers to wear in their own dresses and you know what I gotta say

They hit the nail in the head with that one. I mean rights Seeing women in men's trousers. Oh Men is that grind my gears It's not right. Sometimes the pants are so fucking tight I can see the outline of their labia! Ugh! And I'm like, thanks random lady, thanks for the painful boner! I was gonna get a lot of work done today, but now I guess I'm gonna go have to pump the sin out of my nuts.

What's this world coming to? First women and pants, then women probably just run around naked, bouncing their sex chests, rubbing their wet pussholes all over over everyone trying to trick us right this guys Straight dudes into bone on our way into Satan's hollow worth fire caves JK of course the first three chapters of the cold tan book in particular Approximately quarter of the book of this fucking classic. I'm surprised penguin classics hasn't republished it described Moendays cubitaries and

Kumohangies a celestial visions Celestial Visions, three of them have invisions, mostly Mowendais. Outlining an obsessive detail, the ways in which humanity have been tempted away from the Ten Commandments by Satan. Fuckin' Satan! Learn us away from the path to heaven with his, of course, hypnotic, colliope siren call Ladies and pants from Baron Falls witnesses That's just two of them anyways. I'm gonna get just hold on my demons mesh on it for all of the days No

For real now. I don't know why that's so fun for me to do These chapters included some of the punishments that await those who continue in their evil habits for me to do. These chapters included some of the punishments. Let away those who continue in their evil habits. AIDS, for example, depicted as a punishment from God for the breaking of the six commandment thou shalt not kill. Mm-hmm. Makes a lot of sense. You kill somebody, you get AIDS. Anyone who's anyone knows that obviously everyone who kills anyone gets fucking AIDS. That's health class 101. Every serial killer in prison right now

dying of so many cases of AIDS. Gary Ridgeway, Green River Gary, he of the cleanest wing, holy fuck does he have a lot of AIDS. His AIDS have AIDS. On the book at the end of recounting her 1979 vision, Merwinde relates a vision of hell. Oh, this is some good stuff in which she says, the people who are in hell are crying. They are burning, but they cannot get to ashes instead. They remain alive, but with unimaginable misery and agony, you find and hell people of all colors of all races,

languages, the small and the great, the learned and the unlearned short and tall, the rich and the poor, people with high social standing, everyone who failed to observe the commandments in this place, the hell fires does not discriminate between persons. I like how thorough she is here. Short and tall people. Not sure why she felt compelled to add those particular qualifiers. Like, did she think if you didn't add those, some short, you know, cold memory would be like, I'm fucking good. It was the tallest enters that are going to get burned. Let me know, I'm fucking 4'8.

There's no way I'm burning it. If the world didn't change its ways, the book warned there would be something called the period of chastisement. And then the subsequent three days of darkness. During this time it is claimed, there will be great tribulation. Actually, I wanted to move your voice for this.

There will be great tribulation upon all the people. Such that has never before been experienced by any person since the creation of the world. Oh shit. With the period of chastisement, it'd be worse than constantly burning, but never burning up fully. Always being at the worst stage of burning. No, not quite that bad, but pretty pretty sure that's the worst, but still bad. The book predicted that the world would be racked by various natural disasters, such as heavy hail stones.

Not really that big of a deal. Hurricane, so fire. Okay, that would fucking suck. Snow. Okay, that's normal actually. Tornados. Also normal. Lightning, flood, storms, earthquakes, whirlwinds, and disturbances of the soil.

Okay, Phil, she should have put more time into ratcheting up the action with the weather other than hurricanes. I mean, you can't imagine fire hurricanes early as part of the worst times the world has ever seen, and then next jump to just snow. She did say rivers and lakes would turn to blood, turn to poison or simply dry up. That's pretty crazy. But still not fire hurricane level crazy while clouds will fall from their position and hit the people. Some will die. Those who survive will remain miserable. That one's just fucking dumb. It sounds like she doesn't know what her clouds are. I'll

take a cloud hit. You can throw clouds at me all day. I don't give a fuck. All right, if I was in a fight with someone and they threw a cloud at me, I would be first off impressed that they were magical. But then if that's all they could do, I would just laugh. I'm like, dude, what are you doing? It doesn't hurt at all. It's kind of fun, dumb shit.

Who throws clouds in a fight? She added that women would give birth to animals and animals would give birth to human beings. It's creepy, but maybe kind of cool. I mean, what if you had a really cute puppy? Or what if you had a cool tiger for a mom? She said that there would be various fatal accidents involving cars and airplanes.

I mean, that already happens quite a bit, as well as general civil disorder. I mean, that was already happening in Uganda with religious denominations and nations fighting amongst each other. I mean, that's happened a in Uganda with religious denominations and nations fighting amongst each other. I mean, that's happened a lot over the course of history already. And families fighting amongst themselves also happens a lot. Her vision also predicted that the world would see an endless famine with crops being destroyed

by poisonous locusts. I mean, that does suck. Still waiting for something to be worse than flaming hurricanes out. She said cattle would be either destroyed by adverse weather conditions or stricken with incurable diseases. Meat from slaughtered cattle would be poisonous. Cows will either not give milk or give milk that's undrinkable. Other foods, some other foods, especially alcoholic drinks.

Yeah. We turned to poison. No, that's annoying. But we can't live without cow milk. Cheese, beef, you know, beer. That could be as fun. That could be as fun. We got chicken, oat milk is pretty creamy and tasty.

Cheese from goat milk is delicious. And then her vision started to mention specific countries. The disparity between what country gets what is hilarious to me. Mozambique will be destroyed by its own machinery. Japan will have rain falling for as long as father wants. What? Sounds like Japan getting out of fucking way easier than Mozambique. Mozambique is gonna be said by some kind of sky net terminator situation and Japan is gonna be pretty wet. internet, terminator situation, and Japan, it could be pretty wet. There's actually a well written out list for several countries.

I'll share just some of my favorites. It's tedious to go through all of this. So many. Russia will have the pest of locusts of various types. Zambia will be attacked by diseases of seven various types, which will, which will not have any cure. Some of the places in Kenya will dry up. Uh, Zambia, uh, getting rocked by seven curable diseases. Kenya will be really dry in some

places. Uh, Rwanda, a hundred thousand ghosts will be released to Rwanda to join with those already in the country. Fucking what? I don't know, I sure what's going on there. Tanzania will experience all the dust of unbelief from other countries. Double what? London. Your desire for doing evil will be fulfilled in all ways. That's not like, I don't know, it might be fun for some people there.

Asia will be punished for its pride and trying to excel the Holy Spirit with the knowledge which the Holy Spirit gave her. Fucking what? And is Japan getting that and the rain? Damascus, the water from your rivers will turn to ice. All right, so they wear coats now and go ice game. Libya will experience 17 various attacks at the same time. That's an odd ass number of attacks.

Is 17 supposed to be scarier than 10 or 20? That's my, that's my favorite. Holland flies a various types will break out in your midst. The Zambia getting mother fuck with disease. And Holland has quite a few flies to deal with. France says your laziness will not permit you to endure the chastisements that will be inflicted upon you until you are destroyed in lamentation. Okay, all right, France can destroy Mexico.

Heavy arms that are going to destroy five countries will be transported through your roads. All right. So Mexico actually not getting punished. Weapons to punish other places passing through Mexico. Mexico sound like a great place to kind of ride all this shit out. Right? Have some drinks on the beach. Watch the arms. Just pass on by. The result of all this would be according to Cradonia, cannibalism naturally right.

All right, the strong eat in the week, parents eat in their own offspring, or offspring of others. Seems like an extreme reaction to a lot of rain in Japan, but it's all cannibalism now, all around the world. And still not done, Oh, not even close. Mexico sounding less appealing by the way, if everybody's eating each other there.

But also, you guys, they're fucking demons of some kind all over the place. And they are quote fierce animals, and quote frightening beans that are partly man and partly animal, wandering the earth, hunting for the person who has not got the 10 commandments. Holy shit. Not sure the reign in Japan is even necessary to be mentioned now. Pretty sure no one gives a fuck about reign if there's rampant cannibalism and

chimeras hunting people domestic animals which are already possessed by the devil will now develop poison so they can kill their owners. So no, not poison pets. Still not done. Devils will also emerge from the underworld to harass people and work signs and wonders so that the people will not have the 10 commandments and will accept and will accept the signs as coming from God. Oh, tricky Devils. Really confused more than ever by the rain mentioned now, right? Who in Japan is focused on fucking rain with all this other shit going on?

And who's like, oh, no, can't believe another fire hurricane. Hit us in the middle of all this rain. Should be a lot easier to spot the demons and cannibals and monsters hunting us and devils harass us and poise this pet and shit if it wasn't still raining. At the end of this period of chastisement, uh, fucking finally, the book claimed several signs will appear to mark the end of this generation, as if all that other stuff was enough.

First, a huge bird of prey with claws similar to those of an eagle and a crest on its head, which was similar to that of a cock. Who would rise to a position where the whole world can see it. That's a big iceberg. A, and B, you have to have a flat earth for this to make sense. Right, for everyone to see this same time. So these dipshit's also flat earth, which is of course the art on top of everything else. Next, a large crucifix would appear that would make all the earth tremble.

All right. Finally, a sound like that of a trumpet or a bugle resounding like the sound of a bell will be heard followed by a period of silence across the world, until three holy ones have got up here to command that those of you who have been redeemed go take up your places. But I think if you're not redeemed but you have somehow lived through all the other shit, do you try and sneak to wherever you think is the right place now? Like risk some holy one yelling at you, hey, not you comments. Fuck can't believe the chimeras or cannibals didn't already get you or even demons or devil.

What kind of lazy low-ret monsters do we put to work down here? Got here. Anywhere but here and also not Mexico. We fucked up on Mexico. We made it too easy to live there. Larry was supposed to do that, but got distracted with his stupid Japanese brain idea. Then after all this shit, there's still the three days of darkness during which time those who ever painted will go into buildings, referred to as arcs or ships to kind of wait

things out. She said, they were ordered to shut all the doors and not open anything at all. All activities such as eating, praying should take place inside for three days. Anything that remained outside in the dark turned into devils. These devils lamented and cried for three days after which they were thrown into hell. Like more Michael Bay explosions. Once his period was over, death in the underworld will be vanquished and Satan, having been put in fetters, would no longer be able to tempt the redeemed, who will be given new knowledge, new bodies, new material things that will be very beautiful. This new earth will be connected with heaven,

and there would be a bunch of people coming to visit the earth from heaven. Uganda would become the new Israel, the second Israel of course, which will in turn convert all other nations. But only about a quarter of the population is gonna survive to see this. Indeed, Credonia, or Wenday warned how those

going to heaven will be few. But a quarter of the population doesn't sound like few. It sounds like a lot of people feel like you could take your chance outside the cold, maybe still sneak in. Cold members didn't think that though. Groups of members lived in fear. Let's strict joyless lives, most of them live in on pineapple and banana plantations at the cold owned. This land was bought by pooling the profits from the property of the members who had to sell their property and give their earnings or actually give their deeds and land deeds to the movement. Cult, cult, cult. Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays at the cults are days of fasting beginning at 3am with prayers called the Way of the Cross. Fun. Three days of fasting every week. Gotta keep

people hungry and confused, great way to keep them controlled in a cult as we've learned before. And 5 a.m. members would be allowed to sleep, rising again at 7 a.m. to go work until 1 p.m. sleep deprivation and hunger, classic cult life combo. Members would then attend another prayer session that would last for an hour after which they'd be given a one hour free time, which I would imagine they would use to fucking sleep again. Following that, they'd return to work until supper at 8 p.m. their day would then end with night prayer from 11 p.m. until midnight. Members also prohibited from wearing ordinary clothes are

instead required to wear robes, sweet, which through their respective colors served to designate their positions within the movement, right? Neophytes, newbies, for example, would wear black. While green would be worn by those who had seen the commandments, green and white, the color for those ready to die in the arc. It really sucks to give these assholes all your shit, you pray and pray, you're very little sleep, or food, you know, for months,

and you're still stuck in a black rope. I'll just come on. Why can I get into the arc? Members of all degrees also wore three rosaries to around their neck facing forward to backwards. The third carried in the hand on special occasions. They could sneak a fourth under their skivvy's. I don't know why. Cradonia is the conduit for the Virgin Mary generally told the group what to do and how to do it. The members, along with the cult have been around, became more and more bonded to her, hanging on the details of the various visions she said she'd receive.

The same time, Codonia inspired fear amongst the movements members. She took over the whole running of the movement, demoting and punishing those who were considered not following the leaders or fellow leaders, not following her could be punished. Excuse me, sooner or later all commands came from visions channel through Codonia and how to receive these visions. Well from a phone of course, kind of. She claimed her chief messages from the Virgin Mary through a hidden telephone system that would communicate to her through everyday objects. That sounds legit. That sounds legit. That sounds reasonable. God has the power to destroy the world whenever God wants, but it has to create this weird imaginary telephone system. We'll talk to people. Okay. Based on our vision, the group developed

elaborate hierarchies with Credonia, of course, the top. Under her former priest who served as theologians, as I said before, explained the messages behind the visions, and then regular people at the bottom. But even though they weren't charged, the average member still had a lot of responsibilities, specifically when it came to recruitment and recruiting members would write letters, potential recruits, to introduce the idea of joining the group. Sometimes they get back an invitation to visit

and members would go to the home and spend a few days or weeks spending the, spread the messages and attending to the family. The families visited it were chosen on their basis of being probable candidates, either because someone of the family had succumbed to HIV slash AIDS or there had been a misfortune of similar proportions. Before the family members would be accepted into the movement, they would have to pay a fee to the leadership and then move into any available group properties to be taught the ways

of the group. Those who eventually joined strongly encouraged convinced members of their families and friends to also join. Majority of those who joined are women and their children. As part of their spiritual transformation and preparation for their meeting with a panel of leaders, each new member was given an exercise book in which to list all the personal and intimate sins

he or she had committed. Since birth, once a leadership reviewed this sin list, they came up with the sum of money. The person could pay his compensation for their sins and that amount seemed to line up with maybe a little bit more than the sum total of everything you owned. Gredonia would then be asked to plead with the Virgin to forgive the sins and return the movement to a carvest members by redistributing the wealth kind of, but not really. People were given a place to stay, but never had enough food to eat,

you know, never got enough sleep. All this of course makes them sound like, you know, a cult, especially considering what would happen to the members in 2000. How'd they get away with this for so long? Because Uganda was dealing with a lot of other shit as we talked about. And by appearing hourly, just another Catholic off-shoot sex

a sect amongst many in Africa. And they did appear to be well, you know, pretty Catholic-quick glance. They still recognized the Pope was legitimate and headed the church kind of, but not really because Pridonia was their leader, but outwardly. Mass was still celebrated in a way similar to other Roman Catholic churches in Uganda. At one time, or another, several of the leaders and key members, most notably Dominic Kacarobabo were priests, even if ex-communicated priests kicked out when the Catholic establishment At one time, another, several of the leaders and key members, most notably Dominic Ketler-Obabo, were priests, even if ex-communicated priests kicked out when the Catholic establishment

found out what they were doing, but members didn't always know they were kicked out. Okay, with that big overview complete, now let's dig into their story chronologically. We're actually more than halfway through the episode. We'll fill in some story details we missed, and dig into the true horror of how all this ended in today's time-stuck timeline for the movement of the restoration of the Ten Commandments of God. After this mid-show commercial break. Thank you for listening to our sponsors. Always very much appreciated.

Now for that time line button. Shrap on those boots soldier, we're marching down a time-sub timeline. Allegedly, Credonia has her first vision, right, the Virgin Mary March 10th, 1921. Virgin Mary supposedly tells her to repent, rounds her sins. Like we mentioned up top in the spring of 1904, April 25 Kibbuteri claims also got a message from version Mary and from Jesus Even cooler to hear from Jesus back when every Tom day can marry and this part of Africa are getting messages from Mary They allegedly instruct him to repent completely reject his sins pray more and mortify himself, all right Kibbuteri did so he was informed and he could be sent to his neighbors to teach them to restore the Ten Commandments of the Lord God. What do they have abandoned?

In a weird coincidence, or maybe they made this shit up after the fact, a couple days later, Crodonia, her sister Angelina Migisha reports a very similar vision, Sony visions. Crodonia and Joseph would not meet for years at this point. Also in the spring of 1984, Angelina reports to an apparition in which the Virgin informs her that she had been chosen to be a model for the nation of Uganda and restoring the Ten Commandments. Magicia also claimed that Jesus had informed her that he and his mother had selected 12 apostles whose mandate and vocation it was to bring people back to the Ten Commandments. Not sure what happens to Magicia later in the story, she just kind of

disappears in sources. June of 1989, Prodonia claims that she has received instructions from God to spread the Virgin Mary's message of repentance and faith. Some people think that Prodonia killed her sister. Right now they got a little sister, sister, sister, sister vision off intense spiritual sibling rivalry. A few weeks later, Magisha's daughter, Ursula, Kumonagi, Gredonia's niece says she also has an identical message in her vision. Everyone's getting visions. And started her to spread the message amongst all categories of people, but especially to fellow youths. God, you feel like shit if you're this family, not getting any visions. According to Ursula's vision, which supposedly occurred June 25th, 1989, these youths were especially guilty of abandoning the fourth, fifth, and sixth commandments. They're not honoring the Sabbath, not honoring their parents, and, you know, fucking murdering

people. Kids these days. Credonian Ursula start preaching together. Immediately after that, they visit Mabouye, where a girl from that Catholic school in Rwanda, you know, where that outbreak of visions had been where she had moved to. Or they visited her first, then made up the backstory. I just went over after hearing her story, just kind of copy parts of it. Also, that June, Credonia meets Joseph Kibbuteri, soon the movement is born. They would first be based in Kibbuteri's home where he was living with his wife, as

I mentioned, 16 kids. After the group was formally created, 12 apostles chosen for the new community, six of them women in connection with the movement's strong connection to Virgin Mary. According to the group's literature, Jesus gave the reason for this arrangement, namely that at the beginning of his first mission to redeem mankind, he chose from his disciples 12 men, whom he called apostles, because he was alone. But now he says that at his second coming, he has come with his mom, and since she's the one who has God, the father for this mission, it's appropriate that she gets people of, you know, her kind on the team of the apostles of this new community, you know, second generation Yada Yada.

At least it's called this pro woman, right? Little silver lining in all their doomsday madness and overall exploitation of members. Then taking a step further, the movement will try and take over other small Catholic sects in the area that have a strong focus on the Virgin Mary. Noise, cult cannibalizing other cults. For Downian hervisions, we're able to attract a number of followers in some accounts up to 200 people, including, like we mentioned, several local priests, like Father Dominic Katari Bobo, the priest who had been educated in Loyola Mayor Mount University.

He'd become the chief author of the group's literature, right? We went over some of it, already writing more pastures like I was shown a country where the whole land got too dry to the extent of leaving behind nothing drinkable and nothing that could be eaten. I saw people running here and there looking for something to eat in the end, they started eating one another.

That's the cannibal, she's talking about. Then I heard a voice speaking from heaven saying, this is the end of sin. It is the closing of this generation. And it is time to punish those who are disobedient and do not repent. It also wrote, you know, God further says that domestic animals such as cats and dogs are already possessed by the devil. Right, their poisonous. We're talking about that. From these animals, Satan is actually fighting against men, particularly Particularly those particularly those who can own these animals Yeah fucking pets

Possessed by the devil got to keep a closer on the doodles penny poop or ginger bell penny and DD Think of this whole time. They're just sweet little babies Right, maybe sometimes be you know beggars and bed hoggers, but no, they're they're demotically to possess, which does at least explain D.D. 's farts. He also wrote, the Lord showed me one big animal. It was as big as a mountain in a vision. It was ordered to eat the people and took as many as can be found in one whole country among the small animals. I can see some which were as big as a bus, some others which were as big as a huge house

while others were as big as a cow or a goat. Some as big as a chicken, respectively. They looked like they needed an editor. So we saw some mammoth giant animals, but then also saw other animals that were the size of, you know, animals that you already see. Some of his pastures, so unintentionally funny, I saw big snakes biting the legs of the people and the legs fell down. The largest snake was 10 times the size of the tire of a lorry, like a little, you know, like a cargo truck. The snakes are of various sizes.

The sight of their skin is scary. I could see that even the ordinary ones had been given more poison content. Oh no, big scary skin snakes with extra poison content. This is their head writer. The Colwood claim that they've been receiving this info for a far back is 1978. Now, I'm not sure they just made a backstory to sound cooler. According to supposedly much older revelations, Satan will bring commodities and give them out free of charge. And those who will refuse them will be persecuted. There will be a lot of evil that is going to be perpetrated using people, just as a

Lord is acting to people these times. There's going to be a lot of suffering. The people who will not have the number six six six will not be allowed to buy or sell commodities. It's out of the start of that like Satan's like one of those people giving away free snack samples at Costco. The fuck you watch out for Costco lady. They would even predict that when the devil came up to

earth, devils, they would grab cars from drivers and will drive the cars. Some will drive these cars into the bush and in the mountains. Oh, no, Satan's car, jackers. Damn you devil. Please, you're not driving my car into the bush. Some of the predictions would be, like the Japanese rain, incredibly mundane. This is my favorite mundane one. Misunderstandings will develop amongst the people working in the same institutions. Those working in lower positions will try to get higher positions. God, that would fucking kill me. What a weird thing to mix in.

And there will be a great pestilence that will befall the land. And the rivers will run with blood. Hurricanes of fire will burn many. Half-human hunters will massacre sinners. Man, eating fellow man, mothers, eating children. Demons and devils will torment and destroy the living. Insects and famine and drought and disease and torment will bring the kingdoms of man to their needs. And also there will be a lot of misunderstandings. Yes, people will mishear each other in various offices and other places of work.

Greatly reducing productivity in moments that lead to a lot of confusion and sometimes hurt feelings and bruised egos. And also, those working in the most menial positions will now want to be promoted and maybe get better positions with more pay, benefits, and extra days of paid leave, which will throw off the natural order of expectations and what not. That is what's the Satan has in store for fucking ridiculous. Just mixing the worst shit ever with just, you know, the messages of just fucking banal day to day life.

Former Roman Catholic priest Paul, because I are the rare former member who would not live the cult joins up sometime in 1899. As we talked about, apparently Paul had a vision around 81 or 82, which told him to stop letting parishioners come up and touch the communion wafers with 30 hands. Like moms who have been doing, you know, so after changing their kids diapers, women who had touched menstrual blood, who's fucking doing that at church? And men who touched urine. Is that a problem? Is that a problem in church? And also did you have a vision or just kind of a practical idea

to help not spread disease? At his church, before the church kicked him out, he changed the way people received communion in not rational ways to this guy, to me, blatantly mentally ill. Sort of making sure that three people would walk up to the altar to time, followed by three more people.

All of the groups of three had to leave at the exact same time. Okay so mentally opal after he joins Cradonia starts to have more visions loft of visions. Maybe she felt threatened by Paul's visions Maybe she felt threatened, you know working with other people also having so many out vision had to outvision them According to descriptions from keep itaries family later Cradonia Started claiming to receive messages from the virgin via now the invisible telephones hidden in you know plates and cups and shit The messes with teller stuff like a keep itari should take his kid at a school or sell various possessions to feed those living within his household Then the mess just started to get kind of dark and violent according to one one of Kibbutary's daughters, Edith, Credonia announced on one occasion that the Virgin Mary told her

sacrifice was needed and all of the Kibbutary kids under five needed to be killed. Mother Mary out for fucking blood now feels tonally off for who she was prior in the story. Right? She was one of working to have God not kill us. Now she wants to kill some kids. Look that didn't happen. Not sure how she kept credibility and leadership after one of her visions is kind of shut down.

It's almost like none of these people are logical or rational. Well, no kids were sacrificed not yet. Cradonia did beat followers and mistreat Joseph's family members, for example, by denying them food and medical attention, claiming all the while that she was merely following instructions to the verdict, Mary,

fucking new, there's a new sheriff in town, new Mary. She's on the dark side. She hates it when kids go to the doctor now or have full bellies. One of Joseph's sons would remember when the people came here, they started mistreating us, the family members, the children and the mother, saying the Virgin Mary had told them to do things to keep us without food and to punish us. Spid a lot of early red flags, right? The cult would grow.

Not sure how, but they, you know, the cults again, it doesn't have to be reasonable, rational. 1992, the first day predicted by the movement as the end of the world. Of course, it doesn't happen. Whoops. It is now predicted to occur in 1995. Love when these assholes predict the end of the world, it doesn't happen and they keep a bunch of members

or even grow, you know, get more successful. Looking at you, your, how is witnesses? Once you got members believe in the world as ending when they're down to ride out to final days with you, it takes a lot to get rid of them. After that failed prediction, some followers have had enough. One of the key butary's sons leads a drive to force the movement from the family property after suffering years of abuse, including Credonia's attempt to kill all the kids under five. The movement now numbered around 250 people and they are forced out.

Good for that kid. Colt now settles on a piece of land near Crodonia's hometown of Kananga. They've been left to her by father after his death. The previous year, some sources say that she was able to get this land by killing all the resublings or having them kill by others. Here at what they called when translated rescue place for the Virgin Mary, the movement builds a true cult compound comprising a house for the leaders, separate dorms for male and female members, right? No one gets have sex. That that that

boarding school to guest houses, kitchen stores, a shrine, cemetery, poultry project, and a dairy farm with 30 cows. All this funded by money taken from new members. Also attempt to establish several other campuses and other towns, the movement recruits new followers from nearby districts, as far as ways the capital of Kampala. There were also centers for evangelization in several other cities.

1994, the group suffers a setback when former priest Paul E. Cazir leaves the sect taking with him approximately 70 members. There had been a leadership debate. Those who thought Paul should be in charge left, whose lead notes who remained Joseph Kibbuteri, theoretically in charge at the very start, to your bankrolled, how's the group for many years,

but he was weak. Also, poor, you know, do feel bad from here, you know, mentally ill suffered from extreme manic depression. Credonia is now really running the show. If she wasn't already, probably already it was now definitely for sure. She translates her visions from the Virgin Mary into the rules, the program, as cult members referred to them, as we sit up top, much of the program published in a red book called

a timely message from heaven, the end of the present times. She would also take to discipline members, do that, you know, she was head of discipline if you broke a rule she give it should give it she had given you map my god she'd say that you would be cursed by the virgin Mary and jesus but for neither she nor the other members live that much differently from ordinary members the more living in luxury although it's told in squalor sets rare for a cold leader

uh... this all might have been less about getting a bunch of people uh... you know to uh... for a bunch of money and more about really delusional people actually thinking God put them in charge of saving humanity from the apocalypse. 1995, right? The year that leaders had predicted was going to bring about the end of the world again. Of course, the end doesn't happen. Second prediction fails.

Membership down a bit, but not by much, but then they'll grow even bigger than ever in the coming years. You would think that fucking up back-to-back Doomsday predictions would spell, you know, doom for Doomsday cult, but no. Keeping members continually sleep deprived, overworked, hungry, confused, had to help them overlook all this. And, you know, they give another property and stuff to the cult, so they're pretty pot committed. By the late 90s, the church had grown into a thriving community. Using the word thriving loosely there. By 1997, according to a filing with the government, the movement's

membership listed as nearly 5,000 people, interestingly rather than be separate from society, like many of the other cults we've covered here, some members of the movement seemed to at least nominally be involved in local politics. They voted overwhelmingly for the ruling national resistance movement in both the 1996 presidential and parliamentary elections and the 1997-1998 local council elections. Not sure why they would do this, if the world was about to end, might have been in order to let them squeak by without too much governmental oversight, right? Stay in the government's good graces.

According to a later, Uganda Human Rights Commission report, the leaders of the movement deliberately kept as close as possible to government officials, especially local leaders. For example, by establishing their camps near police posts, participating in community activities, paying graduated taxes, and rent promptly, I bet they also paid a fuck ton of bribes. A lot of bribery going on here, that they weren't going to write up in a governmental report. 1998, the Ugandan press reported that the movement had been shut down for unsanitary conditions,

use of child labor, and possibly kidnapping children. But for some reason, can't find why in sources, the sect allowed to reopen by the government, and again, I got to think bribes. Barley 1999, at the latest, the group had predicted yet another date for the end of the world, right? And all the Y2K madness we discussed earlier made it seem more possible than ever. Lots of people worried about the end times. The state owned new vision newspaper runs an interview with the teenage member of the

movement. And he says the world ends next year. There's no time to waste. Some of our leaders talk directly to God. Any minute from now, when the end comes, every believer who will be at an as yet undisclosed spot will be saved. So they added that in there. Right. You got to like, you know, believe in the right things and be at the right spot. Cult. Cult. Cult. Members becoming more friends than ever now. Leaders are convincing

them to confess their sins and preparation for the end times. Right. If they're selling all a lot of the cults belongings fast and cheap, clothes, cattle, getting sold for fractions of market value. Any new members have to sell stuff like real fast past members recruited. They have to sell any shit they've accumulated work in the cults field starts to cease. In August of 1999, Dementira, Shoshano 61 years old,

long standing cult member, ghost in nearby town of Caballay to collect your oldest daughter and her daughter, seven children. How sad? That December, they gave away their clothes and dressed in the black and green uniforms of the cult Lee for the church in Kananga along with two other daughters and nine more grandchildren. The other family members opposed this. One father of one group of the kids said he was mildly curious though to see if the world was a fact going to end. He told reporters after the fact I was also waiting

to see what was going to happen. My mind was open. So even people who are like, no, I'm not going to your cult are like, yeah, but the world might end January 1st, 2000 passes, of course, without the apocalypse. Now the movement starts to unravel. Members are fucking pissed. A lot of them have been through three missed, you know, end dates. And they wonder, why the fuck do we sell our things? Why? Why? You know, especially like new members, they wonder, why do we sell things quickly for dirt cheap when we're not going to go to have an after all, Cradonia quickly calls a meeting, tells the group that the Virgin Mary actually reappe her just now to her new leaders. Now the date for Armageddon for sure, March 17th, some people thrilled, some are some are not. Some members begin to demand that their previous donations get refunted,

they're like, they've been conned. They realize it now. Others questioning Credonia's leadership skills. An attempt to placate the center's Credonia promise that the Blessed Virgin Mary will refund the money for the sale of the members' properties. No problem. She asked her priest to record the names of the followers who are not happy. Those who submit complaints are according to witnesses, called to a meeting with the movements leaders and never fucking seen again, aka murdered.

Anyone who asked where those individuals had gone were informed that they had just been transferred to another of the group's properties, or that the Virgin had taken them to heaven, sweet. They successfully managed to weed out the dissenters, but now they have only a few months to figure out what to do with everybody else. What happens when the world does not end of fourth time? Now it's time to plan a collective suicide for the faithful. March 17th, because that's the end of the world.

March 15th is set aside to be a day for the group's final celebration. Leaders also put it out there that they're planning a party for the March 18th. Authorities would later believe that date was a calculated misdirection to throw police off their trail. Now they start reaching out to all their members across Uganda. Trying to get them to come to the big final party. It's mandatory. It's the last hotel. One nun would go from village to village announcing that the Virgin Mary coming on March 17th. Oh, rejoice. One member quoted as telling a local man that he was leaving to go to Kananga because our leader received a message from God that on March 17th, we're gonna meet Jesus and Mary.

The parents of one woman wrote to her saying that they were preparing to go to heaven, terrifying message to get from family members. And yet another one member wrote to his wife, informing her about the closure of the ark, there will be no 2001. He would add, as we follow directives from heaven, we are supposed to gather in the selected area before the wrath of Almighty God. The creator is let down on to non-rependants. Keep my words on your

hearts that will never be 2001. Catastrophes will be fall human kind and the indicators of such will be wars, crime increase such as murder, rape, robbery, etc. There will be a lot of fear among the human races. Appearance of strange animals and people will be noticed. I would request you that if you come across such simply run and look for me, I will not fail to seek refuge for you. Whoever wanted his brother or family to perish does not stick to property. Simply leave it behind and run for your life. I will always pray for you as I have nothing else I can do may God guide you. Now if I ever got a letter like that obviously I would assume that the sender had lost

their fucking mind. But then if I saw a bunch of strange animals after that letter, I would assume that the sender had lost their fucking mind. But then, if I saw a bunch of strange animals after that letter, I'm going to run and try and find that fuckers fast as I can. Cult document from January 15 seems to address local authorities. It would say, and you being the leaders, it is important that you know about the following, whether you may believe it or not. The truth of the matter is that it is not going to change. When the year 2000 comes to an end, the present times or generation will be changed, and there will follow a new generation and a new earth, only those who have the 10 commandments of God

will go to live in the new earth. The year 2000 will not be followed by year 2001, but will be followed by year one in a all-caps new generation. Pradonia, other high ranking members. Again, they might have actually believed some of this shit. According to a personal friend of Cradonia, other high ranking members. Again, they might have actually believed some of this shit. According to a personal friend of Cradonia on March 11th, she declares to her that we shall soon be going to heaven and you will be hearing about us on a radio and reading about us in newspapers. Huh, how would there be newspapers still in print

if the end times have come? Wasn't the world supposed to be descending into fire and chaos Really starting to think that she was truly nuts and again like that This was not a grift or at least not totally grift that maybe she thought she heard shit Maybe she was mentally ill as well really did hear shit March 12th Dominic Katari Babo the priest who had been educating the US Dresses in black grabs his rosary heads to the town of Cassisi to see electrician named John Musoke, tells John that he has an electrical problem needs to buy a sulfuric acid, normally using the area to charge car batteries, buys a lot of it, approximately 170 US dollars worth. March 14, three representatives of the movement spend the entire day at the regional administrative headquarters of the government in order to pay a graduated tax for each member of the community.

Authorities would later look at how they pay the member's taxes and think this disproves the theory that leaders would flee with the members' money after the mass suicide-flash murder. But maybe they were just trying to throw the authorities off again. Also left important documents with regional authorities, prominent amongst those documents with some land titles. Why? The police were supposed to make them available to former members.

The revelation listed several dozens of them by name. These members were invited to repent, come to reopen the community, live there, continue to preach the message. Document stated that the repentant apostates should not refuse to do the work because only a few months would remain to complete it. They really believe this shit? March 16, 2000, the day before the big finale, a parcel from Kananga arrives at the home of Mr. Kibbutteri's family, Teresa and the 16 kids, contains books and documents from the cult, a certificate of registration, a copy of the 10 Commandments of the cult, and other items.

A letter in the package informs the family. They should carry on with what we have been doing because we are going to perish. If I can sad, that day Kibbuteri deposits the land title of their property along with the movements, articles of association, constitution, and certificate of incorporation with a police at Kananga for save custody. Then the members gather and pray all through the night. Next day, March 17th, 2000, St. Patrick's Day, Friday, number one song in the US say my name by Destiny's child in the UK.

It's pure shores by all saints. If you like video games, you're probably playing Dance Dance Revolution or Cyber Groove, but the members of the movement, not listen to Destiny's child, not playing Dance Dance Revolution. Kind of hate to admit it, but I was sometimes playing Dance Dance Revolution because that game was a lot of fun, even though you look like a complete fucking idiot, scrambling your feet around as fast you could with your friends. I kind of want to play that game with Lindsay and the kids right now.

Too much fun. But no fun being had by cult members. Instead, they're having a massive party at Kananga where they roast three bowls, they drink 70 crates of soft drinks. Oh, what a party. Meat and soda. Really going all out. The last night on Earth getting as fuck on sugar and caffeine

Little before 10 in the morning the members are seeing leaving the new church to enter the old church Which was used as a dining hall at the time According to one former cult member who narrowly escaped we started it as usual as breakfast But later we were sprinkled with the blessed water Which had a queer smell from the one they used to sprinkle on his daily Five cans of the blessed water and 20 liter and 10 liter containers was placed in the corners of the dormitory we were praying for. Each one of us was given a candle and a matchbox. Uh oh. We kept on singing waiting for the mother Mary to come as we

were told, but later I went outside to Kananga trading center to buy some cakes for the kids who were crying. He would see the windows being closed when he looked back and said, I thought that maybe we were all going to heaven and leaving our building intact and closed. I thought this was the intention of our leaders to leave our building locked as we go to heaven. So I hurried up to buy the cakes and returned. Luckily, he didn't make a back in time. 1030, there was a huge explosion. The whole church goes up in flames.

Interestingly, this former member would say that some of the group's leaders did not die in the fire. He said, Merwende and Kessapuri, another kind of high ranking member, during daytime left the camp and were replaced by two new leaders. They told us that they were going to prepare another branch for similar prayers. Katari Babu had left in the morning ahead of others. Interesting where they go. And if they're really killing all their followers and moving on, why did they give that shit to the government earlier?

Meanwhile, the fire rages at 12.45 pm local time police receive a radio call to police head to Kananga when they arrive. They see a smoldering building as the flames of bait, they discover the remains of hundreds of people, mostly bones, but in some cases, bones full of smoldering flesh, the remains frozen in their final poses of attempting to escape from a burning fucking building. I unintentionally saw video of their remains in a video on YouTube and I was looking for pronunciation actually. Horror movie shit, but so much worse obviously because it's real.

These remains piled on one end of the chapel and total over 500 people estimated approximately 530 killed in this place. That number included dozens of kids. It's fucking ridiculous. There was no sign of the five principal cult leaders, Joseph Kibbuteri, Joseph Kasa Parari, John, the five leaders at this time. John Kamagara, Dominic Katari Bobo, Bobo, or Cradonia Mawende. Authorities assumed that they died in the fire, but many think they fled and went into hiding. By Monday, March 19th, the remains had all been buried together

in a grave alongside the wrecked house of worship, but there was still more carnage for authorities to uncover. Four days after the fire, March 21st, police make more grizzly discoveries. While investigating additional properties that belong to the movement, they discover hundreds of bodies at sites across southern Uganda. Six bodies discovered sealed in the latrine of the Kananga compound. properties that belong to the movement, they discover hundreds of bodies at sites across southern Uganda. Six bodies discovered sealed in the latrine of the Kananga compound.

Man, three had their stomachs slid open. One had a crush skull, maybe those people who wanted their shit back. Dr. Sam Burungi explained, somewhere beaten, somewhere burned, somewhere chemically poisoned, then their bodies dumped down into the pit. There were also 153 bodies found buried in the compound in another village. Some of them have been stabbed. Others had pieces of cloth wrapped tightly around their throats. Appeared to have been dead for at least a month. There were 155 bodies at Dominic, Qatar, Qatari, Bobo's estate at Ragazi, where they've been poisoned and stabbed. Another 81 bodies

at lay leader Joseph Neymarine does farm 44 of those children forensics investigators indicated that they'd been murdered weeks before the church in Furnow At least one woman was pregnant also on March 21st the Roman Catholic hierarchy distances itself from the tragedy The country's bishops said that the groups excommunicated leaders had aired and broke the discipline of the church True the sex members were misled by obsessed leaders into an obnoxious form of religiosity completely rejected by the Catholic Church. Besides the bodies of the church, medical examiners determined that the majority of dead

sex members had been poisoned. Early reports suggested they'd been strangled based on the presence of twisted banana fibers around their necks. Despite some sources listening to death toll at around a thousand, the final death toll settled at seven seventy eight in the most reliable sources. After all the bodies that have been found, it was still unclear where the leaders were. Katari Babu originally identified among the dead, but later the Ugandan government issued a warrant for his arrest, along with warrants for Kubotaire and Moinday. Mental records for the three are unavailable.

It was impossible to determine whether they had died in the fire or not, as their families believe, or escape with a movement's money as a lot of witnesses believe and suggested, and the Ugandan government would speculate at least. Perhaps they gave the government a lot of land titles, other documents earlier, warned the apocalypse to appear committed to dying, but really also had enough money to start new lives somewhere else themselves. And if that's true, these are some evil fucks kill all these kids and everybody, all these other innocent people. President, you're wearing a mousse-event called the event a mass murder by priests from monetary gain. Vice President, Dr. Spasosia, Wanderer, Kasebeye said that these were callously well orchestrated mass murders perpetrated by a network of diabolic, malevolent criminals

masquerading his religious people. The government called for a day of prayer on Sunday, April 2nd to console surviving relatives and assure the country that actions being taken in pursuit of the criminal perpetrators. Police continue to hunt for Joseph Kibbutteri, and then it would emerge he had recently been attending a psychiatric hospital in the capital. It had diagnosed his men in a compressive, but abandoned his treatment the year before. Not surprised. Hospital senior psychiatrist said Joseph Kibbutary displayed

the classic symptoms of the illness, though we don't know what Joseph's exact symptoms were, the typical symptoms of bipolar disorder. Sometimes called manic depression, include mania, period of abnormally elevated or irritable mood, as well as extreme changes in emotions, thoughts, energy, talkativeiveness, and activity level. Mania sometimes comes with delusions and hallucinations. Again, we don't know if Joseph

had manic episodes, but according to some research anywhere from 50 to 75 percent of people living with bipolar disorder. We'll experience symptoms of psychosis during some mood episodes. But Joseph's condition of the symptoms that treatment were unknown to the authorities who licensed the cult and to the hundreds of his followers found dead in Kananga. His mental illness did not excuse his actions in one of his son's eyes. Joseph's son Juvenare Rha- Rha- Rha- Rha Gambwa would say, I feel pity for those people who died. In fact, I hate my father. If he has escaped and I meet him, I wouldn't hesitate killing him.

Year after the tragedy's families would still of course be suffering the losses of their loved ones. An article wrote on March 16, 2001, said the cult's compound, sat still, unabandoned, or abandoned, excuse me, that the rustling tire rim that served as a bell to summon the faithful now swung from the branch of an avocado tree. A tangle of young saplings pushed up from a mass grave. The compound stone houses were still strewn with torn clothing, half-used tubes of toothpaste, jars of face cream and bits of candles.

No one had decided what to do with the compound yet. A ghostly silence hung over the burned out hall and the tidy solid houses where the movements prayed and sang. Locals believed according to the article that the place was now haunted. 18-year-old Diaz to Wengarri, whose aunt and four cousins perished in the inferno told a reporter, as dusk approaches, we see figures of people

moving up and down as they used to before they were killed in the fire. They put on the same red and blue uniforms. That's fucking spooky. Fought her for a scared death episode. Said Peter Mogade, nearby farmer, even during the day I feared that place. We hear the ghost wailing at night and we see them moving. I know of a whole

family of parents, children and grandchildren who converted to the faith and died on March 17th. My God. People still guarding the sites, officially the investigation contingent is this point, proven into how and why this could happen, but the leaders, no one knows where they are, still at large, if alive, no one has a clue where to find them. The internal affairs minister at the time, General Moses Ali appointed the commission of eminent Ugandan to investigate the cult, but without any money, offices or facilities to do the job, the commission never actually even met up, ever. You know, again, there's just fucking so much confusion in the government and just in competence

and money being squandered and stolen, unlikely to the leaders if they are free will ever be cut. The police had no access to computer databases that might link them to neighboring countries where at least one suspect supposedly was seen, they even lacked gasoline for their new vehicles. Right, this is how fucked up things are. The investigations are not easy. And we were not successful said the National Police spokesman, Assumon Mugini. He said, Katari Babel was last seen in Rwanda, uh, uh, after the fires at a camp of a different cult, then in the Kenyan capital of Nairobi, also said the Credonia Mowende seen long after the fire in a village in South Western Uganda.

No one had seen Kibutari. Many believe long after the fire in a village in southwestern Uganda. No one had seen Kibbutari many believe he probably did perish in a fire. Answers to why and how this all happened have never come, probably will never come, right? Owen partially to yet, Uganda's continued instability. Now that the tradis over 20 years in the past, there are still no clues to where the former leaders might be. If any are still alive, you know, likely we're just not going to know much more about all this than what I've already shared.

Just another reminder to stay far, far away from anyone who claims to know when the world's anti and how to save you if you stick with them during the final days. Good job, soldier. You've made it back. Barely. What a strange and sad story. Before I recap a bit, share a few final thoughts. I do have another sponsor just real fast here.

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of God, that the Virgin Mary had led them to him. Roman Catholic man, known among many in Uganda, for his piety, piety, prayer, good works, but they wouldn't do any good works. Quite the opposite. Did they from the very start, intentionally mislead people, to Croni manipulate Joseph, get him to back her false claims of her visions? Did she? Did she really think she had them so many questions? Predicted that the world would end with 1990 or end of 1999 after a few misfires. The cult crusaded for a return to a life according to the Ten Commandments saying that they were the only paths to salvation as they interpreted them. Right? You know, they made a lot of insane predictions about what would happen to the world in

the end times. You know, people are eaten by beasts, food turns poisonous. It's fucking too much rain in Japan. A lot of cannibalism, dogs, trying to murder owners because their poisonous instruments have satin now. They really went hog wild with their prediction writings. They even outlined what country specifically would face the what kind of hardships, or which ones would avoid them like Mexico.

And they wrote about what kind of utopia the faithful would inherit after the apocalypse. Of course, none of that would come to pass because it's a fucking fever dream at best. And it worst intentional fraud written to help steal from thousands and destroy their lives. This nonsense got them followers, thousands of followers, most notably, you know, people struggling from decades of instability poverty and illness People who sold their things gave money to work on the movement's land, you know, keeping their strong coded behaviors and during Krytonia's daily what in the actual fuck is she talking about rants as more and more followers came to live on the family's farm Tensions grew between you know 200 or so early followers maybe 250 or so and

Joseph's family the movement finally kicked off his family's land in 1992 but I wouldn't stop them. Settling now on a magnificent plot of fertile hillside the cult and the Cradonia maybe got by fucking killing siblings and then herding from her father the cult now sets about spreading this message. Cheafly through a 163 page manifesto a timely message heaven, the end of the present times. The group increases with estimates of members being, you know, around 5,000 and it's peak. It was actually what happened when the world did not end December 31, 1991. It is not clear what is known is that dozens of followers converged on the Kananga compound March 16 and 17, 2000, joining 100 already there on the morning of the 17th. The flock

gathers in the chapel, starts praying. praying one man leaves to grasp fucking cake for crying kids comes back astonished to see the church with boarded up windows and locked doors exploding and being consumed in a fiery place investigators arrived they find the remains of hundreds of people mostly their bones in some cases you know only their ashes heaped at one end of the chapel soon more bodies are discovered all over the region. Men, women, kids, poisons, strangled, stabbed, etc. Thoughts of these were people who wanted their money back when the world didn't end. December of 1999, all in all, nearly 800 people would die or rather be murdered by the leaders of this cult. Leaders who have

never been found, did they die in the fire? Did they die somewhere else? Are they still out there somewhere living off the money they made from killing hundreds of innocent people after taking all their shit and fucking torturing the final days of their lives? Questions about the importance of religious freedom in a country where many cults have flourished, about the competence of the government's security and intelligence network, about Mr. Kibbuteri's mysterious movement for the restoration of the 10 commandments of God and of course about the leaders of the group, especially Codonia, follow in Uganda after the tragic end of this cult. What a terrible way to live your final days and fear of an

apocalypse. What a terrible way to die poisoned burned by the people who were supposed to help you get to heaven instead made your life a living hell. Beware of false prophets, meat sacks, there's a lot of them out there. Not all of them are as bad shit crazy as Cradonia and it's easy for some of us to spot. Let's look back at this cult once more this week I also learned something new and our top five takeaways that are really a top four takeaways every week with new info added at the end. Number one, the movement for the restoration of the Ten Commandments of God was an apocalyptic Catholic cult that came out of a particularly tumultuous time for Uganda, a time out for the devastating tyrannical rule of general Amin economic and political instability, the

erosion of faiths and churches, the AIDS pandemic, epidemic. When Joseph and Codonia started claiming to see visions of the Virgin Mary and said that she predicted the end times with sneer, those who were looking for something to believe in. People would face so much horror already in their lives. Well, some of them flocked to the group. This has been happening all around Africa's tensions and violence rose, including nearby Rwanda, but Joseph and Credonia took it further than most of their contemporaries, claiming that Credonia regularly could channel the Virgin Mary's messages through everyday objects, via her invisible telephone system.

And now this all serves as a good lesson about how instability can really get to us as meat sex. We all need to stop believing in people who tell us they have a magical cure. Life rarely works out that way. Of course there are always going to be those who take advantage of people who really have no better options. People with sickly family members, no money to help them who want desperately to believe in something that will get them out of their bad situations. These cases is up to the more fortunate to be vigilant. Look out for these signs, try to keep our family members loved ones, fellow meat sacks away from these nasty motherfuckers, hail Nimrod.

Number two, cult members were forced to give up their money and property to the group's leaders, farm for the group, abstain from sex. Don't talk much about, I didn't talk much about that because no extra details were given. Members also forbidden to wash with soap or even to communicate verbally, had to communicate in sign language sometimes to avoid talking and possibly bearing false witness, even though that sign language is a way of talking and makes no sense. Members were forced to nearly memorize the group's crazy texts, especially that timely message from heaven.

Spend hours of everyday praying and worshiping. Keep an eye on that precipitation Japan might be a sign of the apocalypse. Now at number three on March 17, 2000, nearly 800 members of the movement, you know, perish, you know, blazing fire set to their church. Well, sorry, I misspoke with that one. There was around 500, then others in other, you know, catastrophic events. These people have been led to believe that the apocalypse would take place on March 17th, after it didn't take place on December 31st.

A date, many worldwide believe was Y2K, the collapse of society. You know, a lot of these people have been around for two previous mistaken apocalyptic times. In preparation for the final apocalypse, they feasted, drank, worshiped, then were poisoned and burned alive. Number four, Ugandan law enforcement not equipped to deal with this cult. People called police law enforcement simply categorized the movement as an NGO and non-profit didn't investigate further. That was something I did not mention that did happen a few times. You know, people did report it, but it wasn't taken seriously.

And finding justice for the victims has been hampered by a lack of resources and directives, you know, to the police from the government. There's simply just not a lot they could do with a limited budget, you know, poor political management. The leaders may still be at large. Number five, new info. Let's learn something nice about Uganda. For example, did you know that in Uganda,

you don't wear a Rolex? Well, you can, but more commonly you eat a Rolex. A Rolex is a type of fast food where an omelet is wrapped in a chapati. It's rolled eggs, Rolex. Ugandans love it so much. They have created an annual Rolex festival that is meant to celebrate this street food.

I watched some videos. It looks fucking delicious. So good. And just like so easy to like eat as you walk. I love handheld food. So many different kinds. Rolexes with different meats, spices, vegetables, sauces. You know, you can get it for next to nothing from street food vendors all around the country. Country also known as a paradise for bird watching, not my thing, but I know a lot of people love it. More than 1,000 bird species recorded in Uganda, the African-Jicana, Orange Weaver, amongst the most common. Also giraffes, elephants, antelopes, buffalos, hippopotamuses, crocodiles, the Bwindi, impenetrable, national park popular for mountain gorilla population, chimpanzees.

So don't be scared off by me, only folks on the worst of what Uganda has been through. Take precautions when you travel there. You know, know where you're going. You should do that wherever you travel. But also, you can have a wonderful time there. Check out some travel videos, a bunch of them on YouTube, Nations Gorgeous,

the Wendy, Impenetrable National Park is very green and lush, Lake Victoria, also very picturesque. The country's crater lakes, also incredible looking. You can go island hopping on Victoria Lake. You can eat a ton of Rolexes. Talk to a lot of good people and have a great time.

And not even fucking parish in a doomsday cult. Time, suck, tough, five takeaways. The movement for the restoration of the Ten Commandments of God cult has been sucked. I hope you found that, if you found that half as interesting as I did, I'd like to get to learn about a different place than it was an enjoyable episode.

The thanks is always to the Queen of Bad Magic, Lindsey Cummins. Thanks to Tyler the Suck Ranger directing and producing today, and Logan the art warlock for helping him. I wrote it in my notes, I just don't wanna ever forget this stuff. I wrote thanks to Logan,. I just don't want to ever forget this stuff. I wrote thanks to Logan, Kamat, Tyler,

because I didn't know when I was writing notes who was going to be directing producing. And then I put in parentheses and thanks to the other one for helping him. So every other one was going to be. As if I wouldn't, as if I'm so fucking note dependent that I would panic. If I knew that Tyler was directing and I was like,

oh God, who's the other? Who's doing other things? I think that was also the thing's also the bit of licksert for Upkeep on the Time Suck app, the art warlock, Logan Keith, creating the merch at BadMagicMurts.com. So much good stuff. Helper Run Socials, now along with the suck Ranger and a team managed by our social media strategist,

Ryan Handlesman. Thanks to producer Sophie Evans. Again, with the initial research this week, she had a really deep deep dive. Not a lot of source out there and a lot of sources are bad. The information's all over the place. So many different names, dates. I was a little trickier than normal. Also, thanks to the all-seeing eyes moderating the cult of the Curious Private Facebook page, Mont Squad on Discord, met Becky Becky discord for the second time a Nashville and she's great. I'm going to see her in Louisville too.

Thanks everyone over the time. So I'll subreddit and badmetic subreddit such a such a great team overall next week. The space lists it's let me give them. Have to create actually no that's not the music I want let me start over. Yeah, that's not the music I want. Let me start over. Yeah, that's it. This space, let's have the creed that we go full evil to kick off October and suck on a company given the dubious honor of the most evil company in the world.

There, like the aspirin people. How do they get that label? I surprised a lot of people that the manufacturer of aspirin about as mild as a pain killers you can get for treating feverers and headaches has been involved in some shady shit over the years. First beginning as a dime manufacturer in 1863. I said two numbers are 1863. Bear quickly expanded into the realm of chemicals and pharmaceuticals, even synthesizing heroin in the early 20th century, which they then marketed to families and kids as a cough suppressant. Not great, but a lot of people did shit like that, but they didn't understand how bad

heroin was back then. But that was a far from the end of bearish controversies. During World War II, bear became part of a conglomerate of businesses, businesses supporting the Nazi party, not good, and the German war effort, and then profiting off of the Nazis atrocities by experimenting on people in concentration camps. Some people were given vaccines for diseases they already had. Vaccines that did little to cure them. Others deliberately infected with diseases beforehand. Hundreds died.

Hain is shit. After the war, bear rebuilt, rebranded itself during the German economic wonder, the economic boom that German manufacturing experienced in the 50s and 60s. Controversies kept following it. In the 1980s, medicine and manufacture for hemophilia infected people with HIV, and there was evidence that bear knew about this contaminated medicine long before they did anything about it.

They would also be responsible for poisoning peruvian children in the late 90s, selling birth control that caused its user serious medical problems, and much more. But it would be a 2018 that would see bears newest incarnation when the company bought Monsanto, a bioengineering company that many have also called the most evil company in the world. Some critics have called this period a match, a match made in hell itself. How is there so evil?

How evil is Monsanto? Are they really that bad when I talk to this voice again? How was the drive for profits made these companies engage at less than ethical behavior? How evil is Montsanto? Are they really that bad when I talk to this voice again? How was the drive for profits made these companies engage at less than ethical behavior? How was the people exploited by these companies try to fight back? All this is more next week on TimeZunk. Now let's head to this week's TimeSuckerRupdates. When I push this button here.

up dates. leave his last name out of this is a cult survivor who may have also been a serial killer survivor. Bill writes, I may have had an encounter with Ronald Dominique. In the late 90s, early 2000s, I was married and my now ex-wife was a stripper. We lived in Florida and in September of 2000, she took off for a new for New Orleans to work. Those clubs to make some quick cash. That was just a cover story though. I decided to go get her attempt to work out our issues. Excuse me. I knew I need some money so I bought a banana hammock. I was in good shape then. There was a club on Bourbon Street that is a women's strip club in the front and a dude's strip club in the back. I worked there for a night just to get money to keep me going while I was there. Excuse me, ma'am. Sorry, there was a drink some water in that little sound. Some

of them were crazy. There was a guy who kept asking me to dance for him. I told him that I wouldn't dance for a man, went to talk to the ladies who were there, so later he comes back up to me. He tells me that his wife would love me and ask what time I got off work, say he wanted me to go home with his, to go home with him and fuck his wife. He was creeping me out. I told him to get the hell away from me. I had broken my wrist, had a cast on my right hand, maybe thought I'd be easier to subdue

that way. He mentioned it a couple of times about admiring me for still dancing with the broken wrist. Never thought about it much after that night, but after hearing your episode, I thought his MO sounded familiar. So I googled him, his pick looks exactly like the guy I remember talking to. I freaked out. I'm a cold survivor. Now, it seems like a serial killer survivor as well.

Yeah, I'd say so. I'd heard a couple episodes on Ronnie from other podcasts. None of them went into as much detail as yours did. Never made the connection until listening to your episode. Just thought I'd share that. Love the show. Three out of five stars. Well, holy shit, Bill.

Does seem like you almost became one of Ronnie Joe's victims. That's terrifying. Weird for me to think about seeing your name in a very different context. Had you not trusted your gut. I would about seeing your name in a very different context. How do you not, you know, trusted your gut? I would have seen your name in research from a few weeks ago, instead of a, you know, on a message from a time stocker this week. So very glad you're okay.

And hope life is going great for you. And stay safe. And now a medical meat sack sends it an update to an update from a few weeks ago. Updating that message in the Catholic sex abuse scandal episode left by the fantastic Carrie Davis talking about her brave and also fantastic and amazing daughter Brandy struggle with the cute my Lloyd leukemia. Dr. Jake Basham writes, Hello, Dan, the bad magic crew, loyal time sucker Jake here. I've written them before.

I've even had the unbelievably unique pleasure of having my email read by Dan as a time sucker update. I wanted to write in regarding the time-sucker update in one very special sucker brandy. For some context, I'm a resident physician scientist in the children's hospital at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville. I spent roughly 20% of my time. I was just down the street from you. The hotel this last weekend.

I spent roughly 20% of my time providing care to the sick and well. I'm sorry. I spend roughly 20% of my time providing care to the sick and well, I'm sorry, I spend roughly 20% of my time providing care to sick and well. Gosh, I knew it was correct before. Children as a pediatrician and the other 80% doing basic science research. My scientific area of expertise lies in the field of immunology, specifically T-sales, which are the primary component of the adaptive immune system, that part of our immune system that is activated with vaccines, it provides immunity to certain illnesses.

When someone says, I have immunity to insert, oh, sorry, my god, I can, let's say I have my brain shut down. When somebody says, quote, I have immunity to insert infectious disease here. What they're really saying is my T-sales have seen that insert infectious disease here and will reactivate quickly if it's seen again. The body's immune system is what is responsible for the GVHD that Brandy experiences. I have had the humbling experiences of taking care of children with GVHD, so first I want

to say that Brandy's strength is more than most people could even ever imagine. The next thing I want to say is directly to Brandy. I was so touched by her mother's description of how the bad magic camp brought joy to her. My lab is working specifically on understanding why and how on a detailed molecular level, the donor cells begin attacking their recipient. I won't go into any specific science talk because even my colleagues get glazed eyes when I start talking about it.

This area of research has been a focus of mine. For nearly two years now, I'm only 34 so I haven't been doing this terribly long but I want Brandy to know that at a minimum there's a time sucker out there trying to use science to conquer this particular complication of a bone marrow transplant. Not virtue signaling here just hoping that this reaches her and provides some sense of literally anything good to her strong resilient and beautiful soul. This community is so important to me so thank you Dan for building this empire of oddities all the best Jake Well, damn it Jake Are you an allergy specialist as well because you fucked my allergies up the first time or that mess actually the first two times that were the message

Are you part of some government seeks program to try and make men who hate to intentionally feel emotions feel them anyway? Trying to make me soft Biden put you up to this answer me Seriously though. Thank you so much for sending that message. What an awesome thing for Kerry and Brandy to hear. I mean, for everyone to hear, please keep doing what you're doing. I mean, I tell jokes, generally dark stories, shared tidbits and knowledge here and there. People like yourself save lives, sometimes millions of lives with breakthroughs. You save others pain. You give so many people hope that their pain will end

or their children's pain, you're the real miracle workers in life to me, right? Like real hero shit. So keep being the fucking best man, hail fucking Imrot. Now it's intense because I'm a baby who often hides from deep emotion. Let's lighten things up for a second

with a commons law message from an embarrassed sack. Levi Swanson who writes, God damn it, master sucker. I've been a loyal listener from day one listing religiously as I drive for a living. I'm a food salesman for a regional distributor in the tri-state area of New York, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. I've prided myself on never being duped by any of your deep fakes or being Cummins law. But some of the bits you got me.

I was in the packed dining room with a customer's house with my phone and my breast pocket when I must have accidentally hit the play button and loud as could be while my openly Catholic customers sits across from me, you scream and deadlin' little kids! I frantically fumbled for my phone, turned the entire thing off while distraught old women and grizzled farmers stared at me and discussed. I can only imagine how red my face was, but I sure as hell hoped I didn't lose a customer today. Whatever worth it, three out of hope I didn't lose a customer today. Whatever worth it, three out of five stars wouldn't change a thing.

Well thank you Levi, I needed that right now. I wish you had a picture of their faces when that happened. I think you should have them listen to the full episode. I think you should force them to. So they know I'm against kids getting dailed and fucked. I hope you didn't lose a customer. But also, you know what, if they can't handle a little moment like that, fuck them. Next up, known drug user, Maldsorals, has melted his fucking mind permanently and he'll

never be the same, ever. He writes, probably from prison. I don't know if this will reach you, but I had to tell you you finally got me. I've had a lot of happen in the last few months. It sent me into a deep enough depression that I couldn't take if this will reach you, but I had to tell you finally got me. I've had a lot of happen the last few months. It sent me into a deep enough depression that I couldn't take, join anything anymore, including the suck and stand up, which had gotten me through several rough patches in the past. Once I started feeling better, I decided to take some special mushrooms, sweet, catch up

on the episodes I've missed starting with D.D. Story. Somehow, and my personal aid is from the show, I forgot how much you like to mislead us on tangents that do not exist. And you can only imagine where my already altered mind went when you started going on about the cause of Munchausen syndrome. I actually paused the show, yes, when I started acting like I was talking directly to whoever listening, the drugs have given them this.

I actually paused the show when on a deep dive rabbit hole, looking up the condition, high as fuck, wondered if maybe the injury I have that's put me out of work for two months was all in my head. And maybe I was making it up for cloud or something, even though I was hurting the entire time, you really had me contemplating the power of the mind over the body, how maybe all the substances I've taken really have gotten to my head. I'm glad I only spent about 45 minutes in this hole before I'm pausing and getting to the inevitable end of the roots, I've been a fan for so long. I can't believe you actually got me that bad, but it couldn't have come at a better time. I laughed my ass off. Reminded me exactly why I tend to turn to you and the show for comfort and a sense of belonging.

I have recommended this show to so many people and they shy away at the timestamp, but honestly, I wish they were longer. I feel like I've come back home after a long trip to hell and I I wouldn't change a thing. This warmth is hard to find, and you provide it just by being you. Thanks for everything. You do for us meat sacks. It does not go under appreciated. Oh, man. Uh, well, thank you for the words. Also, uh, we had a really good laugh low tonight, but the wormhole, he went into here in the stock dungeon. I laughed so hard. Just imagine you just go, oh, fuck, oh, no, no, oh, what have I done? Glad you got the laugh you needed. And that you're back. Very glad. Yeah. And you returned the favor. Really made it slap. And now let's end on some inspiration

from a beautiful socket with the best perspective, who gives us a very different kind of buy-you-strangler update, writing, and this is Irish from Discord. Good morning, afternoon, night, whatever other time it might be when you read this, dear, a suck master. I've written it a few times, but something in the buy-you-strangler episode told me I should write it in again. This might be a long one, but I think you'll be able to make it through. In the other side, you give us some stats about poverty, the money you have to make to be above that line. As a father of six, I was thinking, when do it is for a family of eight? And sure as shit, you gave the number.

44,000 and some change. I can say that despite all my efforts so far, we are below that line. My wife is a stay-at-home mom. Yeah, well yeah, I mean, I can six kids. I work 80 hours a week to pay for everything and make sure my kids want for nothing. Yeah, they may not get that sweet Fortnite scheme when it comes out, but they mostly get everything

they asked for. I'm not writing in to give a woe with me tail. I just want everyone of these kind of situations to know that everything will be okay. Keep pushing. Keep working your ass off. Things will get better. You can climb out of that hole. It may take time, but you can do it. Keeping the beautiful meat sack. I know you are. I thought it was going to be longer, but I may have misjudged my ability with the written word. Who knows? Everybody just don't have a lot to say. Either way, sorry not sorry for the length. I thought this was gonna be longer, but I may have misjudged my ability with the written word. Who knows? Everybody just don't have a lot to say. Either way, sorry not sorry for the length.

Thanks as always for the wonderful content you always put out. It always helps me get through the long work days, three out of five stars, wouldn't change a thing. If you end up reading this on the podcast, please feel free to leave my name out. Just refer to me as Irish from Discord. PS, I'm attaching some photos of the fam. Just so you can see that even though we are struggling life can still be wonderful Well, thank you Irish and discord and yes, I walked I looked at the pics

And you have a beautiful family and you all seem very very happy so good on you and man damn. Thank you for their perspective I could only imagine how many people listening need to hear that right? You might have just turned around the day week month year fucking life for dozens or hundreds, right? More. Even just one person is beyond worth it. Keep it an awesome provider, a fucking machine who will stop enough to put food on the table for your family, a great husband, great dad in the world that always has a great dad shortage. Thanks, everyone, for the best messages we can and we count you guys the fucking best. Lucky to hear from you truly.

Very lucky. Thanks time suckers. I need a net. We all did. Another bad magic production's podcast is a finished finito. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, join a cult this week. Other than this one, I promise to never burn any of you alive in a church on a day I predicted the world will end.

I do promise to keep on sucking. Are you ready for the apocalypse the final showdown? In the days before, the world ends. There will be the worst atrocities the world has ever seen. Avalentions of lava. Plagues of locusts, the size of trucks with hints of dragons that breathe fire. Herpes cold sores that can fly from one person's lips to another's originators and rot off your dig or pus. Bats made out of human shit. Then climb into your mouth, spider's aside to pitfalls that have razors for paws.

Demons that have skin you would leave you alive, and also not done. Hang nails. Some mental fogginess. Maybe allergies, but probably not. City didn't traffic and it causes you to almost be late. Even when you left early and now you're in a bad mood, when you could have been in a walk up in a pretty good mood. And a little bit of gas.

Not enough to always even fart. You might want too far, but you can't. And that is even worse than more gas. If you know what I'm saying, because then people don't have as much sympathy for you but they maybe should have. That's the devil doing that to you. Raining fire! Making it so you really wanted that last maple bar that you got and put above the microwave but then someone took it in the last seconds. Ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha!

Ugh! Then that cut us off.