Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 321 - Blood on the Reservation: MMIW

Episode Date: November 7, 2022

So much to go over in under three hours! Why are indigenous women on reservations in the US being killed at a rate ten times the national average? Why are indigenous women in Canada being murdered six... times as often as other women?  The answer is complex. It goes back to the first Europeans who colonized the New World and the precedents they set for the treatment of native women. And in the US, much of the MMIW crisis is related to the very confusing jurisdictional nightmare of tribal law versus state, county, and federal laws on reservations. It is WAY too complicated and nonsensical to allow any law enforcement agency to solve anything. What a mess! How did we get here? How do we get to a better place? I address all of this as best I can today, on Timesuck. Bad Magic Productions Monthly Patreon Donation: It’s November and it is our tradition here at bad magic to donate to a veteran cause every November, in honor of Veteran’s Day. This year, we are donation to the United Heroes League who provides free sports equipment, game tickets, cash grants, skill development camps, and special experiences to military families across the US & Canada. The United Heroes League keeps military kids active and healthy through sports while their parents serve our country. Of course we are recording in advance so our amount is TBD right now but for more info on how you can also help, please visit unitedheroesleague.orgGet tour tickets at dancummins.tv Watch the Suck on YouTube: https://youtu.be/XU-YLh1WrigMerch: https://www.badmagicmerch.comDiscord! https://discord.gg/tqzH89vWant to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever happens to be our most current page :)For all merch related questions/problems: store@badmagicproductions.com (copy and paste)Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcastWanna become a Space Lizard?  Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcastSign up through Patreon and for $5 a month you get to listen to the Secret Suck, which will drop Thursdays at Noon, PST. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. You get to vote on two Monday topics each month via the app. And you get the download link for my new comedy album, Feel the Heat. Check the Patreon posts to find out how to download the new album and take advantage of other benefits.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Indigenous women are more likely to be murdered or go missing than women of any other ethnicity in the US or Canada. More likely than any other group of people, period. More people have been trying to get the MMIW movement word out in the US and Canada in recent years, murdered and missing Indigenous women. And it hasn't been enough. It's still a grossly underreported disturbing and ongoing issue. Why? Well, focusing on the US, partially, perhaps because it's very expert-stinct, the problems that indigenous people experience are often perceived as separate from the rest of the US population. Problems isolated to reservations and rural areas of the US. Problems that seem like somebody else's problem. But the majority of indigenous people now live in
Starting point is 00:00:39 US cities, men, women, and children, but most of you women are going missing and being murdered in your cities and your neighborhoods in addition to disappearing and being murdered on tribal land. So what's going on? This crisis has been ongoing for almost 500 years. Although it may not look the same as it did in the 15th and 16th centuries, the problem is still there. And I'm glad I can help not continue to ignore it. Now there's been brought to my attention with this week's episode. Indigenous people have been advocating for their rights and safety from the very beginning. But it seems like now is the first time that the US government mainstream media have really started to listen to what they have to say. In the modern era with the rise of the internet and social media, the average American is finally able to truly see just how bad the MMIW crisis really is.
Starting point is 00:01:21 And just how many women and girls are going missing and being murdered. It is fucking crazy. This week we discuss a lot of the known statistics on the MMIW crisis, possible reasons for the lack of data and media coverage, why jurisdictional confusion, so much confusion, it's such an interesting part of this episode, has added greatly to this problem and a timeline of the origins of violence against indigenous people and how those early attitudes, bled into actual actual legislation on this history is always written by the victors and the victors of colonialism did one hell of a job of whitewashing the truth when it came to the exploitation of indigenous women edition of time suck. This is Michael McDonald and you're listening to time suck. Happy Monday, meat sack.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Happy Veterans Day. To all of our veterans suckers, this Veterans Day coming up later this week, after this episode drops on the 11th, not just in America, but elsewhere in the world, veterans, but maybe not Russia. Maybe not members of the Taliban in Afghanistan, maybe not all of our North Korea, veterans. Still respect for serving your government, but wish you had a better government to serve. Seriously, thank you to everyone who have made the noble brave choice to put your nation's needs above your own, to serve your nation in a way that I never have, and in a way that most never will.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Such an honor, and one, I respect a great, great deal. I was just talking to Sophie Evans. She's working on some World War II research right now, and she's quite a bit younger than myself, and we were just going back and forth about how she realized she didn't really think she cared that much about war-related topics and military related topics
Starting point is 00:03:05 But then found herself just you know tearing up numerous points during the research just realizing like the sacrifice just The bravery that the courage that is displayed in times of war the that the trauma the amount of trauma that goes on is just Almost unfathomable for those of us who have never served. And I was just explaining to her that, as I get older, you know, that stuff just becomes more and more impressive to me and more and more respect. I feel towards those who have, you know, participated in such incredible moments of bravery. I'm blabbering now.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I'm Dan Cummins, master sucker, guy who does not fantasize about eating anyone or being eaten by anyone. Thank you, Lucifer, for that. And you are listening to Time Suck. A couple things to address. And I will address them as fast as I can. Happy birthday to the Queen of the Suck born on veterans day November 11th. The heart of the Cummins home, she's the she's fucking best. I hope my beautiful life adventure buddy has the best week. It's November and it is our tradition here at Bad Magic. Donate to a veteran cause every November in honor of Veterans Day.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And this year we are donating to the United Heroes League. They provide free sports equipment, game tickets, cash, grants, skill, development camps, and special experiences to military families across the US and Canada. The United Heroes League keeps military kids active and healthy through sports, while their parents serve our country. Record in a bit in advance. So our
Starting point is 00:04:28 amount is TBD right now. But you know, for more info on how you can help, please visit UnitedHeroesLeague.org. Especially proud this month to be a brand ambassador for Black Rifle Coffee Club. Due to their veteran focus as well, the BRCC doing a lot of great shit, making great progress as they move closer and closer towards their mission of hiring 10,000 veterans, opening up a lot of retail stores right now, multi across Texas, but moving into many other states and doing so many charitable acts. It is honestly hard to keep track of them all and their headless horsemen's ghost blend, headless horsemen's ghost blend.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Delicious. If you like the pumpkin flavor and I do, it's a pumpkin-y time of year. Got some, my little cup right here. Now for not fun news. Our private Facebook group called to the Curious 2, started because Facebook shut down called to Curious 1 for violating Facebook guidelines,
Starting point is 00:05:20 has been shut down for violating Facebook guidelines. Fucking Tiago. Fucking real boy. AI bots, once again, do not understand sarcasm and satire. And we really can't talk about what I talk about here on the show every week. Now getting zucked, eventually it seems. We're having the page review, trying to get it back up in the meantime, making plans to start building cold to the curious three already.
Starting point is 00:05:42 And luckily now, after the last little fiasco, now there are so many other groups. You know, I'm so thankful that so many of you in the community have taken upon yourselves to further the community. You know, the cold to the curious blue collar crew, cold to the curious gaming, cold to the highly curious, Lucifina bound, Lucifina's libations, Bojangles pets,
Starting point is 00:06:00 Bojangles baseball academy, time suck metalheads, time suck anime, time suck D&D, and so many other private Facebook groups Lot of places to find more community and elsewhere outside of Facebook the time sucks subreddit red It's not shut and shit down over 12,000 members over 11,000 members on discord the time suck discord channel and You know still still plenty of places to go. So fuck Facebook's fake customer service AI avatar Tiago tell us we violated policies. That over zealous scared of free speech weasel hasn't shut down the actual suck yet though. Thank God we don't all live in
Starting point is 00:06:35 Zuckerberg's world. Now for one quick fun merch announcement and then it's off to our show. Here's a hint about what this merch might revolve around. Brick who you and no kid A trash it's right. It's a triple and Christmas tea Did you know did you think it was really him? It's in the store feature in the king himself Serenade-ness on the keys for the holidays I had an over-the-bad-matter burst out comment check out this really angelic design. Last time I saw him live, he wasn't what I just did. Well, he's getting pretty close. He's older. And a little bit of the range has gone. And the pronunciation, I get it as a moshmouth, was never strongly there early on. It is not there at all anymore.
Starting point is 00:07:43 At some points in certain duty, brother songs, it really did feel like, Rage of hell, Rage of hell, now, Rage of hell, now, Rage of hell, now, Rage of hell, it's like, what? What do you find out about? All right, topic time. And, Hail Nimrod, Hail Lucifer Fiena Praiseful Jango's in Glory Beat of Trouble. And yes, topic time now. Bit more of a serious approach this week's info if you're a new listener, usually sneaking more levity and goofiness, but wasn't feeling that as much with most this week's information. Learned the time, wanted to convey a lot of knowledge,
Starting point is 00:08:13 despite less jokes in this week's recipe, I think the episode still tastes you in a fucking sad way. The information and it very important. I hope it at the topic, our spaces are chose from justice, watch a lot of short docs on YouTube about this. Definitely had a, you know, Monroe and Lindsey and Kyler chiming in more. Usually they just kind of tune out when I'm working on off my little corner. They're like, what are you watching?
Starting point is 00:08:34 What do you mean, you know, it's peak their interests. Watch a great long documentary, Women of the White Buffalo, heard a lot of tribe members speak. And wanna get this out of the way up top, the phrases indigenous peoples, Native American, American Indian, all use interchangeably from a tribe member to tribe member.
Starting point is 00:08:48 So just a reminder that there's no national consensus on proper terminology. So if I'm using all these terms or leaning on some of these terms more than others, no disrespect, no linguistic laziness involved in doing so. Just multiple terms used to describe the, you know, same population. No disrespect ever intended here to subjects who have been victimized. And as a whole goddamn tribe has been victimized time and time again, especially tribal women here in the US and Canada. So let's get started. Numbers acronyms that the movement we're discussing here today has been called. Let's go over a few of those now to avoid any confusion.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Should it come up when we dig in? MMIW is missing and murdered indigenous women. MMIP, missing and murdered indigenous people or peoples. MMIWG, missing and murdered indigenous women and girls. MMIWG2, MMIWG, missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls, MMIWG2, MMIWG2S, missing and murderous, missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls and two spirit people. The definition of two spirit people from the Indian Health Service, part of the US Department of Health and Human Services, is as follows.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Traditionally, Native American two spirit people were male, female, and sometimes intersex individuals who combined activities of both men and women with traits unique to their Traditionally Native American two-spirit people were male, female, and sometimes intersexed individuals who combined activities of both men and women with trades unique to their status as two-spirit people. In most tribes, they were considered neither men nor women. They occupied a distinct alternative gender status. This whole thing we're having now, people can all fucking fire it up about transgender whatnot. It's not actually new in many ways. In tribes, we're two spirit males and females were referred to with the same term, the status amounted to a third gender. In other cases, two spirit females were referred to with a distinct term and
Starting point is 00:10:34 therefore constituted a fourth gender. So I didn't, I didn't know that. Uh, finally, there are two other acronyms often used in discussing this movement, AI, American Indian and AN Alaska Native people. Sometimes I will combine both and just use AI to avoid getting bogged down in a lot of just, you know, acronyms. With those terms now explained, let me add at the beginning that this isn't, it isn't possible to fully cover the MMIW crisis in the US and Canada one episode.
Starting point is 00:11:01 But I'm still able to summarize quite a bit of the history that has led to this crisis, crisis that is important and knowledge, excuse me, more stats than average in this one, more sources, definitely felt a greater responsibility than normal to present the most comprehensive data. I could with this topic, topic once again chosen by our why space lives on Patreon. Since we're unable to find a single source that listed a ton of stats, the history that led to those stats
Starting point is 00:11:24 and also woven personal stories together in one place, hoping this episode in its own weird time suck way can add awareness and comprehensive understanding of this issue in today's tale for the cult of the curiessen. Anyone else who wants to swing on through who craves more than surface stats who likes to grab hold of an important topic and suck it hard. And the MMIW moving originated in Canada in 2015. And since it has spread to the US. On June of 2019, the Canadian government released a big report
Starting point is 00:11:52 on this crisis after a three year inquiry into the MMIW crisis in Canada. The report called the violence against indigenous women and girls in Canada, a race-based genocide of indigenous peoples, including First Nations, Inuit, and Metis. This genocide has been empowered by colonial structures, and it might be Matisse. This is a serious, heavy, pretty dramatic sound
Starting point is 00:12:15 in accusation, but I think that the history and some scary stats back it up. Indigenous women and girls represent only 4% of Canada's female population, but make up 16% of females killed. Am. According to 2014 report by the RCMP from 1980 to 2012, 1,181 Indigenous women and girls killed or went missing across Canada.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Per the missing and murdered Aboriginal women, 2015 update to the National Operational Overview Report by the RCRC MP and did just women make up about 10% 174 the females reported missing for at least 30 days in Canada, which is 1,750 111 of these women missing due to unknown circumstances or foul place suspected. From 1980 to 2014 6,849 reported female homicide cases in Canada, 16% of those indigenous women. The murder rate for non-indigenous women has decreased since 1991, but has remained stable for indigenous women, which increases the proportion of indigenous female homicide victims over the years.
Starting point is 00:13:18 2014, the homicide rate for indigenous women in Canada was 3.6, 4 out of every 100,000. It was 0.65 for every 100,000 for non-indigenous women. So making the murder rate about six times higher for indigenous women. And that's that more than any other is what kicked off the MMIW movement. The following year in 2015, why are indigenous women being murdered at a rate six times as high?
Starting point is 00:13:40 To try and answer the question, why is the murder rate so much higher? Well, what can be done to stop this exaggerated murder rate? Is what the MMIW movement was founded on? So how are we going to tackle this complex subject today? Well, we're going to start obviously by finally Having my dad arrested it's about goddamn time isn't it? Then we're going to see how his incarceration affects the homicide rate for indigenous women going forward on this continent. We'll see how it affects the
Starting point is 00:14:07 rate of missing indigenous women going forward. We'll see how it how this incarceration affects the rate of violent crime in North America in general going forward. A rest of my dad could solve so much more than just this one issue, right? It's time for dad watch to finally act no longer just monitor from the shadows, but arrest my fucking father And then all fathers after him except for myself of course not me. I found it So I feel I should be immune for you know persecution prosecution Seriously now First I will share a lot of the available stats regarding missing and murdered indigenous women
Starting point is 00:14:39 Next in the US ongoing jurisdictional confusion is for sure largely behind the elevated numbers of women murdered and missing. I'll explain this a bit and point to some of the reasons why we have the stats we have such as media presentation of negative stereotypes. Finally we'll cover general timeline of how the age of expiration caused the MMIW crisis and in the timeline discussed the federal legislation that is both harmed and helped indigenous people over the past two centuries. I'll explain this whole big fucking mess, as best I can throughout these sections and
Starting point is 00:15:08 in the recap. I'll provide some personal examples of women who've gone missing or been murdered. So today's episode not just a bunch of cold numbers and dry history. This issue is not unfortunately summed up by a collection of stats of days gone by and history, it's ongoing. Native women continue to go missing and be murdered at horrific rates. They across US and Canada. And while the movement started in Canada, as I said, to make today's narrative more cohesive and less confusing, I am at a zero in on the US.
Starting point is 00:15:33 All right. So it's mostly just be a presentation of US based stats. Many of the same issues creating this problem in the US also exist north of the border. So essentially, when I'm relaying US based stats and ongoing issues, you can assume for the most part that very similar ongoing issues and stats are existing Canada. Found a lot of great recent sources for today's suck. I learned a lot from watch in 2019. Al Jazeera English YouTube channel video video titled The Search Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women Fault Lines. In 2021 video posted by Vice News titled, Indigenous Women Keep Going Missing in Montana,
Starting point is 00:16:09 posted in 2021, the Fantastic 2022 full length documentary, Women of the White Buffalo, and a variety of other quick hit videos from numerous media channels. Data wise, we've linked on three important sources, big studies for much of the stats for this episode or summaries of studies. 2018's missing and murdered indigenous women and girls, a snapshot of data from 71 urban cities in the United States. I came from the
Starting point is 00:16:34 Urban Indian Health Institute, Seattle Indian Health Board by Anita Luchesi and Abigail Ekohock, the chief research officer of the Seattle Indian health board and director of Urban Indian Health Institute. Missing and murdered indigenous people, overview of recent research legislation and selected issues for Congress. That was published January 10, 2022, written by Emily J. Hanson and finally 2015's injustice in Indian country. Jurisdiction, American law and sexual violence against Native women, critical indigenous and American Indian studies, volume one by Amy L. Castleman. Pulled primarily
Starting point is 00:17:09 from these three fantastic sources and a few others, the following stats on the MMIW crisis. Indigenous women and girls living on reservations currently murdered in the US at a rate 10 times higher than the US national average. Fucking 10 times as often. That is a substantial increase. According to the CDC, murder the third leading cause of death for indigenous women, according to a recent statement by Desi Rodriguez-Lonebear, sociologist and social demographer at UCLA and leading voice to the MMIW movement, Native women, specifically on reservations at least, where we have more comprehensive data.
Starting point is 00:17:45 This this guy is stat is, or this statement is so scary. It's just so fucked up. I was talking about this at dinner that are nights, Lindsey and Monroe were like, Jesus Christ. Native women have a better chance of being raped or murdered than they do of going to college. How fucked is that? Better odds of being raped or murdered
Starting point is 00:18:03 than of going to college Man when I first heard that first heard that that really hit me in the guts still does If you're not female think of a young sister daughter other relative female friend, you know You care about imagine knowing they are more likely to be raped or fucking murdered Then to go to college not even graduate from college just go then to go to college, not even graduate from college, just go. Whoo. Here are some other, uh, what the fuck is happening stats?
Starting point is 00:18:33 84.3% of American Indian women over 1.5 million women have experienced violence in their lifetime. Right? 84 over 84% per 2016 National Institute of Justice report. 56.1% of experienced sexual violence compared to 17% of the overall female population over half of all American any women in the US have experienced sexual violence. Native women are raped or attempted to be raped at a rate four times as often as US women overall. And as we've explored in previous episodes women in general raped or attempted to be raped in US at an alarming rate one in six experienced rape or attempted rape in their lifetimes. Same study found that four out of five AI men, 81.6% have experienced violence in their lifetime, over 1.4 million men, not going to throw out a lot of male stats in this episode for obvious reasons, but felt that one was important to illustrate the violence as a way of life for most native peoples. Approximately 1500 AI missing persons have been entered into the US National Crime Information
Starting point is 00:19:29 Center. 2700 murder and non-negligent homicide offenses have been reported to the Uniform Crime Reporting Program. The BIA, the Bureau of Indian Affairs estimates that there are 4200 unsolved missing and murdered cases involving AI people out of a total population of 2,694,000. That's 0.0016 percent of the total AI population. That's from a few years back. Risa sense information and I'll go over later in the episode shows the population being
Starting point is 00:19:58 higher. Anyway, that's 16 cases per 1,000 people. Not that much higher than the overall homicide and missing person right in the US of 14.3 per 100,000. However anecdotally, strong feeling amongst many living on reservations amongst those most familiar with this crisis, that the true number of missing and murdered people is way higher than BIA stats portray. Since many tribes do not report to the Bureau of Indian Affairs, due to a lot of shit,
Starting point is 00:20:23 due to a lot of historical distrust, anger between tribes, the fed sent to oversee them, and we're not looking at native men and women, but only looking at native women. The true total likely so much fucking higher. Also the majority of the murders of indigenous women are believed to be committed by non-indigenous people on tribal land due to a lot of legal red tape when it comes to arresting and charging non-indigenous people with crimes and tribalant. I'll get into that mess later in this episode. Again, probably the most interesting part to me.
Starting point is 00:20:49 And some stats are coming up later that we'll point to all this. Women and girls make of the majority of the victims of violent crimes and human trafficking, but indigenous people of all ages and genders are victims of these crimes. I know we've already gone over a lot of numbers, but now let's dive into specific stats from the missing and murdered indigenous women and girls study from 2018. The study, the single most important piece of literature, when discussing this crisis, referenced by many, if not most, of the sources used in this episode. The researchers prefaced their report with due to urban Indian health institute's limited
Starting point is 00:21:20 resources and the poor data collection by numerous cities. The 506 cases identified in this report are likely an undercount of missing and murdered indigenous women and girls in urban areas. Again, due to distrust between the US government and native nations and also due to confusing jurisdictional nightmares, uh, that, you know, crimes on native lands fall into, not by all the experts I came across looking to this issue that the, that a massive amount of underreporting is going on. According to the National Crime Information Center's count by 2016, there were 5,712 reports of missing AI women and girls. But name us, the US Department of Justice's Federal Missing Person's database only logged 116. A huge discrepancy. Violence rates on reservations roughly 10 times
Starting point is 00:22:02 higher than the national average. And it might be almost as high off the reservations. That type of research hasn't been done for the AI women living in urban areas, even though 71% of AI people live in urban areas. The Urban Indian Health Institute began their study in 2017. Their goal was to understand why is getting data on AI people so fucking difficult, especially for those not living on tribal lands. How does law enforcement track and respond to these types of cases? How does the media report these cases?
Starting point is 00:22:30 The UIHI defines an urban Indian as tribal people currently living off federally defined tribal lands in urban areas. Because they lack a data on urban Indians, many people don't realize that the MMIW crisis also affects AI people, living off reservations. And per 2016 census data, 50.2% of urban Indians identify as female. This report also included individuals who identify as LGBTQ, non-binary, and or two-spirit. First, the study first answered the question,
Starting point is 00:22:57 why do the majority of AI people live in urban communities? And there are two main reasons. Forced relocation due to 1950s, federal relocation, and termination policies, I'll discuss a little bit more detail in a little bit more detail later. And issues with getting education, employment, and housing on tribal land.
Starting point is 00:23:14 The UIHI got their information from law enforcement records, state and national databases, media, social media, and community and family members. They collected data in 71 cities and 29 states. The UIHI filed Freedom of Information Act requests for case data from 1900 to 2017, but then 80% of the cases in their report come from 2000 or more recent. None of the agencies, they reached out to were able to get data going back to 1900. Oldest case was from 1943. case was from 1943. Two-thirds of the cases from 2010 to 2018, the UI, H.I. writes, this suggests the actual number of urban MMIWG cases are much higher than what we were
Starting point is 00:23:52 able to identify in this study. So sadly, crime stats for American Indian people just weren't fucking gathered for decades while it was being collected for every other ethnicity. Because the U.S. government just considered them, you know, separate nations and just kind of, yeah, just fucked them over just like just like act like they didn't exist. Uh, the UIHI picked certain cities to obtain whatever info they could because these cities had a health center affiliated with UIHI, a large population of urban Indians or had a large number of MMIG cases. So the UIHI found 506 cases of missing and murdered AI women and girls in 71 cities. 128 people classified as missing persons, so 25%
Starting point is 00:24:31 280 murder cases, 56% 98 cases classified as unknown 19% 75% of the cases had no tribal affiliation listed 66 of the 506 cases connected with domestic and sexual violence listid 66 of the 506 cases connected with domestic and sexual violence. Youngers victim they found less than a year old oldest victim 83. Average victim age 29 135 cases 27% involve people age 18 and under. 96 cases connected with domestic violence sexual assault police brutality and a lack of safety for sex workers. 42 cases domestic violence, 14% of those involve victims aged 18 or younger, three victims pregnant when they died, 25 victims
Starting point is 00:25:09 sexually assaulted when they went missing or died, 18 victims sex workers or human trafficking victims, 39% of the victims sex workers who were sexually assaulted when they died, eight victims homeless, six victims transgender, seven women died from police brutality or death while in custody, and the UIHI can only find a victim's relationship to a perpetrator in 24 cases, right? So, in most of the cases, unsolved, 13 of 24 killed by the partner or the partner of an immediate, of an immediate family member, three killed by an immediate family member,
Starting point is 00:25:38 six killed by serial killer, two killed by a drug dealer, 83 percent of the perpetrators male, about half of those perpetrators not indigenous, only 83% of the perpetrators mailed about half of those perpetrators not indigenous. Only 38% of the perpetrators convicted. Nine never charged. Four acquitted of their charges. One perpetrator had a mistrial. All right, so this not a lot of convictions of the one perpetrator died of suicide, making it 28% of the perpetrators who were not charged or convicted. 30 alleged perpetrators had charges pending. Are areas with the highest number of cases with the South West, all right, 157 northern planes 101 Pacific Northwest 84 Alaska 52 in California 40. Cities with the
Starting point is 00:26:14 most cases were Seattle, Albuquerque, Anchorage, Tucson and Billings. States with the highest number of cases New Mexico, Washington and Arizona. And the research team had a very difficult time collecting data of the 71 cities and one state agency, Alaska DPS surveyed, 40 provided some level of data, 14 did not provide any data, 18 Freedom of Information Act requests still pending by the cutoff date. 33 of the 40 agencies did search their records, 10 of the 40 confirmed cases that the UI,
Starting point is 00:26:41 UI, HI had already logged, gave information for memory or gave partial data. And now we're going to get into some specific interesting moments here. The UI, HI gave specific examples of the struggles they have with collecting data. I said a representative from Juno Police in Alaska explained that they received UI, HI's initial request. At the same time as an unaffiliated project at another institution found a request for data on sexual assault on Alaska Native women. The agency assumed any request on violence against Alaska Native women must have come from the same source.
Starting point is 00:27:11 So when they filed the other institutions request, they closed out UIHIs. Fucking lazy. Similarly, in an October 2018 phone call, a representative from the Los Angeles police claimed UIHIs to prior FOIA request to their agency had been closed down by being lost in the system due to under staffing. They had a backlog of thousands of requests that three staff members were responsible for filing and many were not answered. As U.I. H.I.'s first request was or, yeah, or were rerouted to the wrong agency as U.I. H.I.'s second request was.
Starting point is 00:27:48 An entire year later, the agency expected U.I. H.I. to file a third request and give back in line. Man, fucking California, man, and their fucking dumpster fire of state and local funding. What a shit show. Not surprised they had so many problems obtaining data from a state government that should run smoother than any other state government. California has a highest state tax the nation, 13.3 percent as a 2019 fifth highest per capita income and because they're a huge population base, so many high income earners, they collect the largest amount of taxes of any state by fucking miles. In the fiscal year of 2021, the state of California collected a total of 248.19 billion US dollars in tax revenue. New York collected the second highest amount of any state, 93.5 billion.
Starting point is 00:28:32 It's not even close. And California has a sales tax. It's over 10% in some areas. City taxes, county taxes, property taxes. They tax the fuck out of everything. What do they do with that money? Honestly, every agency that interacts with the general public seems to be severely understaffed and frankly fucking incompetent. I've lived numerous years of my adult life in three states, Washington, Idaho, and California. My interactions with the government of California have been the most infuriating by far consistently. It's not even close. And someone who tours all over the US sells merch all over the US. I have to interact with various state governments for taxes. Well, I don't, but my accountants do. And Jenny and Bre and the fabulous team at Tata County, they have more problems with California. Lindsay deals with this too. Cause she works with them. And every year, it's something with California, regardless of how much or how little I work there every fucking
Starting point is 00:29:22 year. It's absurd absurd shit gets lost routinely You know the the bill is for the wrong shit routinely when I live there They used to make me spend days gathering info and being stuck on hold for hours and hours to prove that I didn't owe them taxes for years I never lived there Over and over again, and if I didn't prove that they were essentially trying to steal from me They was my fault somehow and I got penalized. Not surprised at all the continual fuck-ups when it came to providing records for MMIW in this suck. The California State government should honestly be a case study and how to never, ever run a government.
Starting point is 00:29:55 California above is perhaps the greatest natural resources any state in the nation, along with Silicon Valley, other high-tech industry epicenders, most taxes by far and they just fuck it up like every year. Yeah, my god, it's a fucking joke. If California was my kid, I would be cutting up its credit cards and sending it to its room until I came up with an actual plan for how to not be a fucking dipshit every fucking
Starting point is 00:30:19 year. I also love California overall, by the way, I just fucking despise their government. It's just a piece of shit. Refoxie now. Let's look at the UIHI trying to get data from the state next to the suck dungeon. In another case, the chief of police in Billion's Montana, and for having received a second FOIA request
Starting point is 00:30:37 from UIHI wrote, your assertion that we have ignored a similar request from eight months ago is false. Unless you send your request elsewhere, this is the first time we've seen it. UIHI responded with screenshot to the initial request and of the automatic email received stating that the request was received and was processing, but UIHI never received an response to the email or to the record request to date. What a fucking dick the Bill and Chief of Police has been here. Just apologize, right?
Starting point is 00:31:05 Everyone makes mistakes, you made yours, I went up to it. I promise I won't feel this episode up with tons of examples of life that just kind of relate, but I can't stand it when people don't own their shit with the make mistakes. Just own it, especially when they're in a position of power. And then they get cocky over previously thinking that you fucked up, not them. I mess up all the time and I apologize when I messed up, it's actually not that hard. I won't say which comedy club did this, but recently I went somewhere
Starting point is 00:31:28 and they forgot to put my opener's family on the guest list for tickets and the show was now sold out. Try to tell them that his mom couldn't come in. They forgot to put snacks or beverages in the green room force, which were requested months in advance. Also booked another opening act, even though I brought my own opening act and they knew about that month in advance,
Starting point is 00:31:44 all the information communicated with the club months and events and they just didn't read anything and the manager tried to get shitty with me out the gate told me I was causing a lot of problems. Oh man you're causing me a lot of problems. When I insisted he do whatever he needed to do to find seats for the openers family and then instead of you know prepped for my show I had to look at screenshots from Lindsay showing that he had in fact been emailed all of this information. And then I made sure he just didn't ignore me like this sheriff ignored the UIHI, right?
Starting point is 00:32:11 So I pointed out that he did receive the information requests and it was glorious because I was able to walk up to him and tell him to his face, something's effective. Hey man, you see those texts I just sent you? For the record, I didn't cause any of the problems you're dealing with tonight. You did. You fucked literally everything up that you could fuck up.
Starting point is 00:32:25 So don't blame me for shit or any mistakes that you fucking make going forward. And you know, he didn't like being talked to that way. No one does. But also, knew I was right. And since I was right there in his face, and maybe a little heated, he apologized. He's a small victory. I savored it because most of the time in my experience, people get to get away with being dicks like this fucking billion share of his being.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Okay, really gonna refocus on the narrative now. 30% of the agency's survey charged a fee for data if the UI HIPAID every invoice it would have cost over $4,400. Taxes should be fucking covering that. Why the fucking pieces of shit? Their budget was $68. They were unable to access some data simply because they could not pay their invoices, which we would have known about them.
Starting point is 00:33:08 We could have made our multi donation for them, you know, helping get what they needed. They also had trouble getting case information due to racial misclassification. Nine cities unable to search for American Indian, Native American or even Alaska Native in their systems. How crazy is that? These people have been on the land the longest by far and they're not even in the system, it's a racial option, as an ethnic option,
Starting point is 00:33:30 is if they don't exist, which is how a lot of Native American women interviewed in Docsai watch said that they feel like, like they don't exist in most people's eyes, like they don't matter to the culture at large, which is why they're being murdered and going missing at alarming rates. On Seattle, the UIHI was given two overlapping lists.
Starting point is 00:33:44 They were told that N was the abbreviation for black people through the early eighties. Fuck, and what? No more info there. What did the N stand for? Negro would be best case. What the fuck? Other police departments gave them data
Starting point is 00:34:01 with Indian American surnames like sing. That's awkward. Not native to this kind of obviously, a very different Indian, just a bit insulting. Finally, that 2022 missing and murdered indigenous people report by Emily J. Hanson further illustrates how violence affects men, women and children who identify as American Indian or Alaska Native. A few of these stats are almost identical to ones I've, you know, mentioned already, but worth repeating, just a few. During their lifetime, 84% of AI women experience violence, 56% of AI women experience sexual
Starting point is 00:34:32 violence, 56% of AI women experience physical violence, by an intimate partner, 49% of AI women experience stalking. Damn, 66% of AI women experience psychological aggression by an intimate partner, 96% of AI women who did experience sexual violence experienced it from a non-native, interracial perpetrator, 96%. That's really disturbing. That's a big one. Clear indicator that for many people who are not native,
Starting point is 00:34:57 native women are seen as less than human sexual objects, right, to be mistreated, someone to be abused, if they don't want to do what you want them to. That view has been around as we'll see in graphic historical record, once we get into the timeline, ever since Columbus first encountered Native peoples in the Americas in 1492.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And because of some jurisdictional bullshit, I'll get into non-Native perpetrators are able to get away with the abuse of Native women. More than they could get away with the abuse in any other group. Native women are just dealing with non-Native people, seeing them as less than, also dealing with more and more overall adversity.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Kids count a project of the NE-ECC Foundation, a premier source of data on children and families in the U.S., found that 35% of AI youth reported two or more adverse life experiences. Defined as frequent socioeconomic hardship, parental divorce or separation, parental death, parental incarceration, family violence, neighborhood violence, living with someone who's mentally ill or suicidal, live with someone who has substance abuse problems or a racial bias. For comparison, 18% of all kids surveyed reported two or more adverse life experiences, about a half the amount of native kids.
Starting point is 00:35:59 AI youth also had a death rate of 32 for every 100,000 compared to 25 every 100,000 in the overall US population. Indigenous people are also at a much higher risk for being victims of human trafficking and sex trafficking much higher. According to the FBI, some data published just last year in 2021, 40% of the victims of sexual trafficking are native women, yet native women only represent 1% of the general US population. That is fucking absurd. That's crazy. Researcher Emily J. Hanson and others have a big reason for these inflated numbers
Starting point is 00:36:32 of sexual violence and human trafficking. With indigenous women, the thing it has to do with the so-called man camps in the US and Canada. Man camps are defined as areas of temporary housing for oil and gas workers who are characteristically well-paid, male, and non-indigenous. Mancamps bring a surge of people into rural areas, also bring an increase in crime, drug, alcohol, offenses, and sexual violence. Because the camps are established in these rural areas, local law enforcement often doesn't have the resources to deal with elevated levels of crime. Police, for example, if the tribe even has a police force, they may not be able to monitor
Starting point is 00:37:03 for sex offenders in these camps. One case study comes from the Boccan oil producing region in North Dakota in Montana. Sexual assault, domestic violence, human trafficking all increased, where, quote, unquote, extractive industries were established. The Bureau of Justice Statistics did a study of violent victimization in this region from 2006, 2012. Violent victimization rates reported an increase of 23% in the Bacchan region declined 8% in non-bacchan regions during this period.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Serious violent victimization, homicide, sexual assault, aggravated assault, robbery increased 38% in the Bacchan region, where these workers came in. Unlawful sexual contact, like a statutory rape increased 45% when these men camps got going. Domestic violence increased 27%. Serious domestic violence increased 47%. Violent victimization increased for Native Americans more than any other ethnicity by far.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Now before looking further into why these elevated stats are what they are, let me summarize why we don't have as much data as we should about all this. The UI H.I. Give six primary reasons for lack of data on this, on this crisis. Under reporting, racial misclassification, poor relationships between law enforcement and indigenous communities, poor record keeping, racism and the media, and my dad consistently refusing to address his fucking role in any of this drives me crazy. He's so cagey.
Starting point is 00:38:24 He just will not confess to the blood obviously on his hands or Maybe number six is lack of relations is between journalist and indigenous communities Dressing numbers one and five the media plays a big role in the lack of data when it comes to you know reporting on cases It can be problematic the modern stereotype of Native Americans It is that they struggle with drug and alcohol abuse and depend on the government for survival. Essentially, the stereotype is that they are lazy drunks, unworthy of sympathy for their plight. They did this to themselves kind of vibes. Is there more alcoholism amongst AI people than other US ethnicities?
Starting point is 00:38:58 Yes, there is. 14.9% of AI people report being addicted to alcohol compared to 8.6% of Hispanics, 8.4% of Caucasians, 7.4% of African Americans, and 4.6% of Asians. There are no stats that I'm aware of for the rate of alcoholism on tribal land specifically, sure it varies quite a bit from one reservation to the next. Looking at a chart labeled Children and Families, it received public assistance by race and ethnicity in the US in 2019 37% of American Indian children receive public assistance compared to 13% of Asians 43% of American Americans 29% of Hispanic kids 15% of Caucasian kids and 23% of kids overall. So yeah, American Indians suffer from alcoholism and
Starting point is 00:39:40 rely on government assistance more than average But are those are those reasons to look down on them? Well, no, especially when you look at why the stats are elevated. Is a greater rate of poverty, you know, and reliance on governmental assistance and us, poverty, excuse me, is all of this a symptom of laziness or collective clinical depression affecting multiple cultures of Native Americans, right? Nativehope.org writes this modern stereotype was created to acts of colonization and cultural assimilation.
Starting point is 00:40:08 The native hope editorial staff adds that before colonization, most Native American societies respected women, viewed them as sacred, women held positions of power to a lot of physical labor in their communities. Tribal communities took care of one another. There was no government assistance. Life was hard, it was hard for a fucking every 100 years ago. But there was, you know, beliefs that life was good. There was plenty of buffalo for everyone. Plenty of land, plenty of game, clean rivers, streams full of sand and
Starting point is 00:40:31 other fish. There were wars, but also peace treaties and prosperous times. The tribes lived with the land, not off of it. It's worked for them. Alcoholism wasn't a problem because alcohol was not around. And, you know, over the years since it has been around, this, this, this firewater mythology that native peoples are somehow genetically inferior and more susceptible to alcoholism has added to prejudice against American Indian peoples, according to many experts, and it's not true. There's no evidence that native Americans are more biologically susceptible to substance use disorders. There's old research that's bullshit that purports that myth, but they're not actually more susceptible to any of the group. Says Joseph Gone, associate professor of psychology at the University of Michigan and many others. Americans don't metabolize or react to alcohol
Starting point is 00:41:16 differently than whites do in a way that would make them more susceptible excuse me to alcoholism. They don't have higher prevalence of, you know, known risk genes. Uh, so why is, is the rate of alcoholism so much higher amongst natives and non-natives? Well, because my fucking dad won't leave me alone. If my dad was constantly killing and kidnapping and raping your family, I bet you'd fucking want to drink more. No. Uh, this is, this is why I think trauma, right? This is what a lot of other people think. The trauma is the reason for excessive alcoholism There is a correlation between alcoholism and trauma You have your land taken your traditional way of life destroyed your gods erased your daughters raped
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yeah, motherfucker. You're gonna want to hit that sauce a little harder than the average bear Right, you're just you're fucking more sad about your life European colonizers colon came along, truly turned the lives of tribes upside down. Their culture was gutted in a way most of us will never be able to comprehend. They brought new diseases. They killed estimate a 90% of all natives. They brought entirely foreign concepts of land ownership of living off the land, not with the land.
Starting point is 00:42:18 They brought with them patriarchal Christian views did not understand or accept the structure of indigenous societies or spirituality that aspires the ways the tribes had traditionally lived as being sinful. Native kids forced to go to schools where they were fucking beaten, scolded by priests and nuns and others for speaking their native tongues or where in their native clothes. They were told their spiritual practices were essentially satanic. Boys had to cut their hair that they grew long because, you know, tribally, that was considered a powerful, right, right, a sign of physical
Starting point is 00:42:47 strength and virility to have long hair, all that cut off, how emasculating. Apparently, all those priests and nuns forgot about the story of Samson, the fuck this short hair have to do with being Christian. What is it, what does the same the Bible adieu shouldn't have fucking long braided hair? Well, long braided hair actually is condemned for Corinthians, but numerous other books, such as numbers, there's pro-long hair versus. It's almost like the book is extremely contradictory and confusing, so maybe we shouldn't get bogged down in various inconsequential rules. Natives are forced to convert to a religion they didn't want,
Starting point is 00:43:17 the culture they didn't understand, speak a new tongue that was unlike any tongue they'd ever heard, the core of their identities stripped in every possible way. And on top of all that, the women seen by the culture that now surrounded them as godless horse, indigenous women experience unprecedented levels of rape and violence at the hands of European colonizers for centuries. We'll get into some early, very disturbing tales in the timeline here soon. According to Andrea Smith's paper, not in Indian tradition, the sexual colonization of Native peoples, initial Europeans viewed indigenous people as dirty. They didn't
Starting point is 00:43:49 wear as much clothes as they did. Right? There's lack of clothing made them polluted with sexual sin. They were seen as less than human, therefore as rapable. And a lot of the MMIW experts strongly feel that these old stereotypes still influence his law enforcement and media in the modern area. When the media does a story on a missing or murdered Native American woman They too often in the opinion of MMIW experts over emphasize any past mistakes right criminal record They turned to victim blaming the UI H.I. Analyze had the media covers MMIWG cases in the cities a study they noted the majority of media coverage focused on issues on reservations not urban Indians in the city's a study they noted the majority of media coverage focused on issues on reservations not urban Indians.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Uh, UI H.I. explains why that's a problem saying through coverage of reservation based violence or though coverage of reservation based violence is critical, this bias does work to collectively minimize the issue in urban spaces. It bolster stereotypes of American Indian and Alaska native people is solely living on reservations and rural areas. It perpetuates perceptions of tribal lands, as violence-ridden environments, ultimately is representative of an institutional bias
Starting point is 00:44:49 of media coverage on this issue. In regards to MMIW cases, the media is allegedly consistently used language to blame victims for crimes committed against them. The UIHIs analyzed the media's use of violent language in their coverage of cases to find as language that engages in racism or misogyny were racial stereotyping, including references to drugs, alcohol, sex, work, gang violence, victim criminal history, victim blaming, making excuses for the perpetrator, misgendering
Starting point is 00:45:15 transgender victims, racial misclassification, false information on cases, not naming the victim, publishing images, slash video of the victim's death. 46 media outlets use violent language, 36 media outlets used violent language in 50% of more cases. 22 media outlets used violent language in all cases. Most common types of violent language used was references to drugs or alcohol, coverage of trans women victims that misgendered the victim, and references to the victim's criminal history. Other violent language included references to sex work, gay false info on the case, or did not name the victim, made excuses for the perpetrator, or used victim blaming language, showing images, or video of victim death.
Starting point is 00:45:53 One of the concluding statements of the study was this study illustrates the maze of injustice and impacts MMIWG cases, and demonstrates how they're made to disappear in life, the media, and in data. UIHI discovered a striking level of inconsistency between community, law enforcement and media understandings of the magnitude of this violence. If this report demonstrates one powerful conclusion, it is that we rely solely is it is that if we rely solely on law enforcement or media for an awareness or understanding of this issue, we will have a deeply inaccurate picture of the realities minimizing the extent to which our urban American Indian
Starting point is 00:46:26 and Alaska Native Sisters experienced this violence. This inaccurate picture limits our ability to address this issue at policy programming and advocacy levels. In 2021, PBS published an interview between author of the 2018 U.I.H.I. study, man, so many acronyms, sorry, my mouth hates acronyms. Abigail Echohawk and journalist Anna Nawaz, they compared the media attention to the Gabby potato case.
Starting point is 00:46:50 A white woman who went missing and was determined to have been murdered to the media attention of the MMIW crisis. Gabby Petito was reported missing in Wyoming in September 2021. In just a state of Wyoming, 710 indigenous people reported missing from 2011 to 2020. The majority of them women and none of the hundreds of those women have received even a tiny fucking fraction of the media exposure of Gabby Petito. Abigail told a nois we're talking about a crisis. It didn't start five years ago, 10 years ago, but one that has been going more than hundreds of years, we've seen native women go missing and murdered at astronomical rates.
Starting point is 00:47:24 But despite knowing this within our communities and having the stories, we've seen native women go missing and murdered at astronomical rates. But despite knowing this within our communities and having the stories, we see an underreporting of them in the data, which makes it harder for us to advocate for and to show the disparity that exists in our communities and the loss of our loved ones. She also said when families attempt to report someone missing, law enforcement consistently downplays it over and over. They asked families if the woman ran away, if they were drinking, if they do sex work, she said we see prejudices and stereotypes against indigenous peoples
Starting point is 00:47:50 and people of color play out in the under reporting because nobody's listing to us. We also see a maze of jurisdiction that exists only for indigenous peoples in this country because of the laws that exist on tribal lands. I worked with a family where they actually spent three days with law enforcement trying to decide who had jurisdiction and In those three days their loved one remained missing and nobody was looking for them. This is a common complaint That takes forever for law enforcement to act in MMI W cases And I'll explain why very special circumstances
Starting point is 00:48:18 When it comes to missing and murdered persons cases the first 48 to 72 hours critical to solving them Experts say over and over that the chance of solving a homicide cut in half. If police don't get their first viable lead in the first 40 hours and in the first 72 hours described over and over as being crucial when it comes to finding missing persons. Missing persons. After 72 hours most of the leads, you know, have usually dried up. Nature, other factors related to too much time passing by. I have erased a lot of important evidence.
Starting point is 00:48:44 A very confusing jurisdictional nightmare seems to be the main reason behind this delay in actions, at least on tribal lands. Her the Bureau of Indian Affairs, there are approximately 400 tribal justice systems in the US. These systems vary in size and structure. Tribal courts only have jurisdiction for certain offenses, generally very minor ones. Usually can only prosecute crimes committed in Indian country. Multiple jurisdictions could be responsible for the investigation and prosecution of a single
Starting point is 00:49:10 crime. Currently, tribal courts have only had jurisdiction over crimes that occur on tribal land and involved in indigenous offended regardless of victim race. The major crimes act of 1885 established federal jurisdiction for certain crimes committed by indigenous people on tribal land murder manslaughter kidnapping Mamie some sexual abuse felonies, but not all incest assault against minors felony child abuse or neglect arson burglary robbery and other crimes if an offense is committed by an indigenous person on
Starting point is 00:49:38 Tribal and what it falls under the mca and is contained in tribal code, the travel court and the government can prosecute. But state governments may choose not to prosecute. Public law 280 passed by Congress in 1953 transferred responsibility for prosecution of major crimes from the federal government to states. In 1953, six states became mandatory PL 280 states. And this, I know it's a confusion. It's supposed to be confusing in this explanation because that's the fucking problem. It's confusing.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Alaska, California, Minnesota, Nebraska, Oregon was constant. And after this, the federal government could no longer prosecute MCA offenses in those states, but a lot of the states weren't real clear on this for a while in the tribes living in those states. And all states, whether there is federal or state oversight for major crimes, it sure seems like there's very little funding for the proper amount of law enforcement to handle these crimes. It sure seems like there's very little funding for the proper amount of law enforcement to handle these crimes. Some states have become optional PL 280 states, which means the state may get involved in some cases, which mucks things up even fucking more
Starting point is 00:50:33 in 1968 PL 280 changed again, required tribes to consent for a state to assume optional jurisdiction. No tribes have consented as of today, even though some states were mandated to be 280. So then there's confusion of are they 280 are they not? Tribes may petition the government to re-assume jurisdiction from the state without the state's consent like through the federal government It's all so confusing Emily Hansen explains some of this confusion. She says the determination of jurisdiction for offenses that occur on tribal lands May also depend on the tribal membership status of the Fender and the victim. If the offender is a member of a tribe and the victim is not, then the tribe may have
Starting point is 00:51:09 jurisdiction, along with the state or federal government, as determined by the MCA and PL 280. If neither the offender nor the victim are members of a federally recognized tribe, but the offense occurs on tribal lands, then the federal or state government has jurisdiction, but the tribe generally does not. In most circumstances, tribes do not have jurisdiction over non-Indian offenders, even if the victim is a tribal member. That last sentence is sought to be a major factor in MMIW cases. In most circumstances, tribes do not have jurisdiction over non-Indian offenders, even if the victim is a tribal member. Think about that.
Starting point is 00:51:45 If a dude at some man camp, for example, is believed to have raped and murdered an indigenous woman who's gone missing, the tribe may not be able to bring any charges against them. An art teacher at the Albonnet School on the Lakota Rosebud Reservation, South Dakota, Sunrose Iron Show, interviewed for Deborah Anderson's that a women of the white buffalo doc that came out this year said, here's the problem. Tribes who are quote unquote sovereign cannot press charges on people who are non-native.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Then speaking to a producer holding the camera, she says, you could murder me right now and walk away, Scott free. And many were, she's not fucking wrong, it's so fucking wild. And many reservations in near a state or federal officer who could arrest the perpetrator could be hundreds of miles away. Right? Could be fucking three, four hours drive away. By the time they arrive, crucial evidence could be disposed of. The perpetrator's gone into hiding. You know, that's they're taking several days to make the
Starting point is 00:52:36 trip because they think the victim might have just ran away or maybe it's just at a party or something. It's even worse. Author Amy, Amy Castleman further explains these jurisdictional issues in her report in justice in Indian country. And I've brought up her name already, but she's an adjunct professor of ethnic studies at the San Francisco State University, California State University, Stanislaus and Laney College. Indian country approximately 56 million acres is the legal term for all the reservations in land held in trust for indigenous people. Castleman writes today due to a complicated system
Starting point is 00:53:05 of criminal jurisdiction, non-native Americans cannot commit crimes against Americans in much of the Indian country, or they can, excuse me, commit crimes against Americans with virtual impunity. This is created with some call a modern day hunting ground in which native women are specifically targeted by non-native men for sexual violence
Starting point is 00:53:24 because they can get away with it I mean if you're a sexual predator and you know you have a real good chance of getting away with abducting Harming, fucking torturing, raping, killing some tribal woman you can't do any that to a non-drive woman and have a good chance to get away with it Well, of course you're gonna fucking target and did just women. I mean might as well fucking tattoo targets on their faces Amy Castleman offers a detailed explanation of how early colonization started the MMIW crisis in U.S. and abroad. By the timeline of how federal law has continued to contribute to the crisis, she writes, violence against native women is not traditional before Europeans arrived to what is now known as the United States of America. Sexual violence against native women was virtually unheard of. In the rare instance,
Starting point is 00:54:01 would it did occur native communities use their own functioning justice system to swiftly address the perpetrator and restore balance to the community. Colonization and Westwood expansion forcefully and violently removed indigenous people from their land at the same time the government created strict laws, regulated movement, culture and the criminal justice system. Today when a crime is committed on tribal land the police must determine location, racial identity of the perpetrator and victim, and their relationship to each other and the community in order to first establish jurisdiction before fucking anything is actually investigated. As a result of this complicated system of jurisdiction, sexual perpetrators have learned that
Starting point is 00:54:35 Indian country is the most opportune place to prey on women. Gasselman continues with, when a non-native man specifically targets a native woman in Indian country for sexual assault, because jurisdictional conflict allows him to, we must contextualize these conflicts in a larger narrative of predatory violence that occurs on a societal level. Rather than occurring as an individual pathology in which sexual predators manipulate jurisdiction to get away with sexual assault, jurisdiction, the prosecution of sexual violence against native women must be read as part of a colonial pathology that is always constructed native women as inherently rapable and viable. Heavy shit, right? Yes, a lot of info. Important info to understand. Let's now begin the timeline of the MMIW crisis
Starting point is 00:55:18 from its origin to the colonial period. The laws that have reinforced the crisis, modern efforts to make it change. I'll go over some of this information again So hopefully by the end we all kind of understand it and the recap, you know, I'll share my own thoughts about all this and Yeah, maybe maybe it'll fucking help in some way. I encourage you to send your thoughts as well help us lose a phena But first it seems like the least intrusive place for this week's mid show sponsor break Thanks for listening to the ads that I have to think are probably a lot lighter than this week's information. Now it is timeline time for real. Shrap on those boots soldier, we're marching down a time-sub timeline. Time line. The foundations of the MMI Debbie crisis, according to the many voices of those who investigated
Starting point is 00:56:11 the most, were established during a period of history called the Age of Exploration and Discovery. Period characterized by European nations sending explorers on voyages to the new world, which led to the colonization of indigenous lands and mass enslavement of indigenous people. When Europeans arrived the new world, they were met with seemingly infinite natural resources. However, these resources already owned by indigenous people in some sense, indigenous people. In many cases, who were very open, very willing to trade with the new arrivals. But that's not how Europe historically, you know, did shit.
Starting point is 00:56:41 And the wars leading up to colonization and during colonization, no one on earth fought more than Europeans. No one has ever loved war, more than my ancestors. When Columbus first sailed across the ocean blue in 1492, the Muscovite left the waiting wars were ongoing. They would last until 1583. The hundred years Croatian Ottoman war was about to begin in 1494.
Starting point is 00:57:02 The Italian war of 1494 to 1498 would begin. The War of Hungarian Succession had just ended. The Russo-Swedish War would kick off in 1495. Two years after that, the Cornish Rebellion of 1497. Conversation would lead to numerous wars between colonial powers. Between 1689 and 1763, there were no less than four massive colonial wars that involved France, Britain, and Spain in their respective colonial possessions. Europeans weren't in the bartering and trading mode when it came to the new world They had superior weaponry thanks to steel and gunpowder and they were much more interested in taking shit than negotiating for anything
Starting point is 00:57:37 But they were Catholics They were very pious while the Spaniards and they were all they were all Christian Very pious righteous and all things At least they wanted to tell themselves that and when the first colonizer colonizers showed up, you know, the Spaniards, the Pope was super powerful in the late 15th century, early 16th century, more powerful than any individual nation's ruler and to get Pope approval colonizers needed a way to legitimate taking indigenous people's land and resources. The first Europeans used papal bulls, decrees from the Pope. God's most righteous, earthbound, big hat wear, and motherfucker. And these papal bulls were considered supreme law.
Starting point is 00:58:14 The Pope authorized and therefore God authorized colonial enslavement colonization. Pope Alexander VI, one of the six best popes named Alexander fucking ever through that point in history, issued Inter-Catera. The papal bull on May 4th, 1493, that literally granted all the lands of the new world to the Catholic monarchs, King Ferdinand, the second of Eragon, Queen Isabella I of Castile, ridden in this bull with the sins, and we make a point, and depute you and your said ads and successes, lords of them, with full and free power, as harte and jah's diction of every kind. Carblance, motherfuckers!
Starting point is 00:58:49 This would be interpreted by rulers as God giving right to take just, you know, not anything just from the land of the new world, but from the people as well. Here ye hear ye, it's his eye, God! And it would give me great pleasure for ye spanutes to plan to the new world as your godly heart see fit There are many people is there and none of them have read my book So fuck them and also they are not your pian and do not look or act like us. Yes, ask because God is your pian So even if they do read my book still fuck them go go vent forth and
Starting point is 00:59:22 Claiming last night, whatever your pians use this numerous other papables and royal permissions to colonize and steal for indigenous people with impunity in order to make it Feel not only legal, but moral Europeans also manufactured ways to justify what they were doing in a very Nazi-like dehumanizing fashion Casimax planes that by portray native people as fucking savage barbaric subhuman? I added the word fucking European colonizers were able to justify their legal actions. And many indigenous societies when colonizers showed up women were the ones who had power and ownership over land and resources and the Spaniards rightfully saw this as fucking gross. WOMEN?
Starting point is 01:00:00 HAHAHA, POWER? WHAT? People with vagina's had power, pussy power, yikes. However, not God like, Satanic, don't worry, God will make things right in this narrative. He, capital H ladies, he will beat those silly pussy owners into Godly submission. Seriously, though, female power, non-royal female power, foreign concept to the Europeans. According to Amy Castleman's injustice in Indian country, jurisdiction American law and sexual violence against Native women, women were now perceived as threats to them gaining
Starting point is 01:00:34 power in this new territory. She writes, this colonizer realized that divesting entire communities of their resources necessitated the disenfranchisement of Native women in particular, constructed the Native woman as a dangerous other, was a crucial tool of conquest. Because indigenous societies were so different, so foreign to what they knew, Europeans characterized them as uncivilized, lacking law and order, immoral. They needed to be taught the right way to live.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Castleman summarized that the thought process of these early Europeans was if Native people had no justice, the logic went they were by nature dangerous and violent. Right? And violence against them now became an act of self-defense. If they were unintelligent, then they were not able to manage their own resources, thus naturalizing European appropriation. Right?
Starting point is 01:01:18 If their bodies were not dominated by Christian morals, then they were available for domination by Western Europeans, which normalized gender violence against native women Because they were really women. It's not like they had souls Native women are viewed as sexually immoral or even perverse because of things like nudity, dominance, relationship and control over their sexuality uh How dare those godless horrors choose which dicks they prefer to let in their filth pusses They were seen as lustful in a way that was dangerous. How could lossally fucked up? How much damage has this colonial fucking vision of
Starting point is 01:01:54 Christianity done to women? To our culture as a whole, it reverberates to this day. To the Victor go the spoils, but the Victor's morals don't have to be superior to those they dominate. Might, might make right in a legal sense oftentimes, but not in a moral sense. Let's see how these decrees and cultural perspectives were carried out in real world actions. One of the first pieces of evidence of human trafficking of indigenous women was a letter from Christopher Columbus.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I've heard of them. To Donna Wana. Sorry, sorry, I think that actually is the name. I don't know why they really cracked me up. Donna Wana. It's like Donna, Donna, Donna W that actually hits the name. I don't know why they really cracked me up. Donna Wana. It's it's like Don Donna, Donna Wana, Delatora Donna Wana Delatora a nurse and Queen Isabella's court a sister of a crew member. This letter was written in 1500 Columbus wrote in a part of this letter a
Starting point is 01:02:37 Hundred Castellanos are easily obtained for a girl and there are many elders who begin to locate girls Those from nine to ten are actually in highest demand. Holy shit, this christian fucking casual right in this down to a female member of the Queen's Court. Not even hiding it. What do you think these girls were in such demand? To be used domestically as home makers, housekeepers? Maybe some.
Starting point is 01:02:57 What was most of it? Probably to be fucked. To be trafficked, child sex slaves. On October of 1492 after touching down of the Bahamas in Cuba, Columbus landed on Hispanyola, which is the land making at present day Idaho and Montana. No, Haiti and Dominican Republic. Now here he interacted with the areas
Starting point is 01:03:14 principal inhabitants, the Tiono people. And on October 12, 1492 letter, Christopher Columbus wrote, said in order that they might develop a very friendly disposition towards us. Because I knew that friendly disposition towards us because I knew that there were people because I knew that they were a people who could be who could Jesus Christ who could better be freed and converted to our holy faith by love them by force gave them some red caps and other glass beads which they hung about their necks and many other things of slight value which they took much pleasure they all go quite naked as their mothers bore them, and also the women,
Starting point is 01:03:47 although I didn't see more than one really young girl, all that I saw were young men, and none of them more than 30 years old, very well built. A very handsome bodies. Very fine faces. Yes, yes, yes. They have to be good servants. I'm imagining him reading this tone. These are the real world's words. They have to be good servants. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:04:12 And of good skill for I see that they repeat very quickly whatever I said to them. Good servants, not good people. The Bill Trade Relationship is with two co-exist with, to dominate militarily. Okay, fine. It was the age of conquering. But once conquered, how fucked that it didn't seem as equals to be converted into citizens. In 1493, Columbus wrote a letter to Ferdinand and Isabella discussing the tyano people and offering to send the royals and slave people in return for ships and resources. Needed for a second voyage. Wrote, they have no iron or steel nor any weapons nor are they, nor are they fit there on two not because they
Starting point is 01:04:47 Not because sorry, that's just the fucking sentence structures weird because it was written a long time ago not because They be not a well-formed people if I read in that voice and tell and a fair stature But they are most wondrously tumorous such they are incurably timid but they are most wondrously tumourous, such they are incurably timid. They are artless and generous with what they have to such degree as none would believe, but him who had seen it. Of anything they have, if it be asked for, they never say no, but do rather invite the person to accept it and show as much lovingness as though they would give their
Starting point is 01:05:18 hearts. Their highness may see that I shall give them as much gold as they may need Hines may see that I shall give them as much gold as they may need with very little aid with which their hines will give me Spices and cotton at once as much as their highness will order to be shipped and as much as they shall order to be shipped of Mastic and allow wood as much as they shall order to be shipped and slaves as many as they shall order to be shipped If somebody was talking like that today, they shut the fuck up. Just fucking spit it out. What are you? Why are you talking that way? You fucking weirdo. And if Alan was as much as they shout order to just fucking tell me. But yeah, what a lovely people they are. So kind of hard. So helpful. So friendly and generous. They'll make perfect slaves. What I'm here. I can see in moments like this how conspiracies about a small cabal of nefarious leaders want
Starting point is 01:06:07 to enslave commanding how they get going. That's exactly what a small cabal of leaders actually didn't very spark the world during the colonial era. Your Highness will rejoice in the human bounty we'd live to you, so timid, so generous, so naked with fine faces, handsome bodies, sove how wicked certain delights of the flesh are, you can easily trick them into molesting them how you fancy. And if they resist you can be to kill them and it doesn't matter they're not real people. That's the best part. They're like Alice monkeys without souls to be used as every day fits.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Or maybe he didn't stimulate anything that inflammatory, but after, you know, I review a few more historical records that become clear that this is basically what that con thought. There's evidence that she'll that Christopher Columbus did traffic many indigenous women and children with either four knowledge of or in difference of to their fate as sex slaves as is written in one historical review. In 2018, a meme went viral of a quote, suppose you're written by Christopher Columbus about human trafficking said Columbus provided native sex slaves to his men. In addition to put in the natives to work as slaves and his gold mines, Columbus also sold sex lives to his men, some as young as nine. Columbus and his men also rated villages for sex and sport. In the year 1500 Columbus wrote, a hundred castions are easily
Starting point is 01:07:25 obtained for a woman as for a farm. And it is very general. And there are plenty of dealers who go about looking for girls, those from nine to 10 are now in demand. That's not quite what he wrote. Facebook posts include a quote from the same letter mentioned earlier, according to snopes, internet's fact checker. At the time of the letter, Columbus had been removed as governor from the territories after Spain received reports of his treatment of the indigenous people. He was imprisoned before being pardoned by King Ferdinand. So this quote told that reported time likely false. However, it spoke to actual truth. Snopes adds, however, in the broader context of his letter to Donna Wanda de la Torah, Columbus appears to have
Starting point is 01:08:02 been neutrally describing the fact that girls as young as nine years old were sold to slaves. In a particular passage quoted in the meme, he was neither endorsed, you know, criticized his practice nor admitting that he personally took part in it. But then during the second voyage in 1495, Klaumbus could not find as much gold as he'd expected. So he did capture indigenous people, sent him to Europe as enslaved people to make up for that. The event was called these slave raids of 1495. And he definitely was aware I have to imagine of a lot of horrible shit going on. This is 1495 expedition. In an October 28, 1495 letter written by crew member Michelle DeCuano. This motherfucker casual about raping a girl that had been given to him by Columbus. He just
Starting point is 01:08:41 felt just felt, you know, comfortable getting out the old quill and inkwell and jotting some heinous shit down. Clearly not worried about repercussions. This dude wrote, we captured this canoe with all the men. One cannibal was wounded by a landsblow and thinking him dead, we left him in the sea. Suddenly we saw him begin to swim away. Therefore we caught him and with a long hook pulled him aboard where we cut off his head with an axe. Right? We sent the other cannibals together with the two slaves to Spain. When I was in the boat I took a beautiful cannibal girl and the admiral gave her to me. The admiral he's referring to is Columbus.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Having her in my room and GB naked as is their custom, I began to want to amuse myself with her. That's literally what he wrote. He wanted to amuse myself. It's even fucking literally what he wrote. He wanted to amuse myself. It's even fucking creepier than just like I wanted to fuck her. I wanted to amuse myself with her. Since I wanted to have my way with her and she was not willing, she worked me over so badly with her nails that I wished I had never begun.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Oh, it's crazy that she didn't wait in the raper. To get to the end of the story, seeing how things were going, I got a rope and tied her up so tightly that she made unheard of cries, which she wouldn't have believed. At the end, we got along this fucking piece. This another sentence. It's so disturbing. At the end, we got along so well that let me tell you it seemed she had studied at a school for horse. I wish I could get in the time machine, go back, fucking cut this guy's dick off and let
Starting point is 01:10:02 him bleed out. Fucking savages. Spaniards were fucking savages on these voyages. Do you just do a little journaling? Yeah, just to have jotting some thoughts down about tying up a native girl who got notice how young she was, who fought off his first attempt at raping her, and then then tied her up so tight, she's screaming bloody murder, making squeals people hadn't even heard, and then rapes her again and again. And then you know, brags about how sexually submissive was once he, you know, fucking letter out
Starting point is 01:10:27 from the ropes, I'm sure. Well, yeah, I bet you guys dig it along well. So you're trying to avoid being fucking tortured with the rope again. They just completely dehumanize these women. Bartolome de la Casas, a member of the 15 of a 502 Spanish expedition led by Nicolas of Ando, with someone actually upset. Thank God. By the atrocities he saw from Europeans like Columbus and Avondo. Avondo was the Spanish governor of the West Indies from 1501 to 1509. 40 years later in 1542, De La Cosa, this did live a long time. The Spaniard who would live in the West Indies for over half a century, made it became a Dominican or Dominican priest in Hispaniola wrote a book called A Brief Account of the Destruction
Starting point is 01:11:05 of the Indies condemning the actions of his fellow Spaniards, condemning the actions of the explorers. In this book, he said, there are two main ways in which those who have traveled to this part of the world pretending to be Christians. I like that he wrote that. Have a brew of these pitiful peoples and wipe them from the face of the earth. That's the contemporary writings. Not some fucking historical presentism going on.
Starting point is 01:11:26 This is somebody at the time, you're like, what the fuck are we doing right now? First they have wage war on them, unjust cruel bloody and tyrannical war. Second they have murdered anyone and everyone who has shown them the slightest sign of resistance or even of wishing to escape the torment to which they have subjected him. This latter policy has been instrumental in suppressing native leaders and indeed given that the Spaniards normally spare only women and children is led to the annihilation of all adult males whom they habitually subject to the harshest and most inquisitive in in in in in quittis and brutal slavery that man
Starting point is 01:12:00 has ever devised for fellow man treating them in fact worse than animals. Explore, America, Vespucci wrote journal entries from 1497 to 1504 about his Spanish voyages. And one letter he wrote about indigenous women's sexuality claiming that because indigenous women were very libidness, they would cause a man to lose their virile organs and remain unix. This Pucci also portrayed indigenous women as being violent. He wrote a letter from his third voyage Excuse me. We saw a native woman Come from the hill carrying a great stick in her hand when she came to where our Christian are stood
Starting point is 01:12:31 Like Christian is a Christian guy she raised it and gave him such a blow that he was fell to the ground The other native women immediately took him by the feet dragged him towards the hill They all ran away towards the hill where the women were still tearing the Christian to pieces at At a great fire, they made, they roasted him before our eyes, showing us many pieces and then eating them. First off, did that happen as it was written? A lot of people think they were full of shit about the cannibalism claves. Did they eat them? Also, if that motherfucker did get murdered and eaten, I mean he deserved it! How many women had he raped prior to that beating? How many men, women, and children had he killed? Early colonizers, characterised and digits women as having a cannibalistic appetite for white
Starting point is 01:13:06 men. Some of the writings portray these women as highly sexual. This Pushee wrote in the same letter, Native men marry as many wives as they please. And son cohabits with mother, brother, sister, male cousin with female, any man with the first woman he meets, the women as I have said, go about naked in a very libidness, yet their bodies are are calmly, but they are as wild as can be imagined. When native women had the opportunity of copulating with Christians, urged by excessive lust, they defiled and prostitute themselves.
Starting point is 01:13:34 They defiled themselves, not the dudes, just these fucking, these seductress, these temptresses, these devil's harlots. Conneres just had no choice. The dicks were hard, what are we supposed to do with them? If I can beat off on the sand? No, they had to fucking time up and rape them. Our writings like this portrayed in Digest Women is a threat to both the physical safety
Starting point is 01:13:54 of a Christian man and their morals. Castlemen writes that again, if native women are seen as a threat to men, then violence again, some becomes an act of self-defense. If native women are constructed as lascivious, then all sexual activity is invited and ultimately enjoyed. And finally, if native women appear to choose to live in bodies that are not yet subdued by patriarchy, then they are available to be dominated by European men. Holy fuck and destructive patriarchy, Batman. If women are scenes of threat to men, violence against
Starting point is 01:14:18 them becomes an act of self-defense. What a terrifying rationalization colonial violence, right? We had to beat the fuck out of this woman. We had to subjugate them. They were acting sexy. Everything we're doing much other than being naked. Who cares if they were, you know, sexually interested if it was consensual, you fucking twats. And then the coloners is, you know, they get horny and rather than take responsibility for their hornyness and maybe trying to control it through again, beating off or something. They blame women as being too tempting. Old timey version of, well she didn't want to be raped she shouldn't want that skirt right Lucifina wept Bartolome de de la Cossus
Starting point is 01:14:50 the fucking good guy of this time this priest good priest got appointed out good priest wrote of yet another incident of violence against women in his book this depiction is particularly awful oh my gosh he wrote one spaniard took a maiden by force to commit the sin of the flesh with her I eat a raper dragging her away from her mother. So I'm guessing she's very young Finally having to unsheath his sword to cut off the woman's hands and when the damsel still resisted They stabbed her to death what the fuck because she dared she dared to resist, his attempt to rape her, they cut off her hands. Then killed her when she wouldn't calmly accept now being raped as she was bleeding to death
Starting point is 01:15:30 from having her hands cut off. Why the fuck were they still trying to rape her after they cut off her hands? Again, these spaniards fucking savages. This is like horror flick, torture porn level, the sexual violence. But you know, these ladies were probably trying to seduce these poor men.
Starting point is 01:15:44 These ladies who fought to the death to not be raped and were torn away from their mothers. We're probably temptresses, right? What are you guys supposed to do? Knock out their hands off. Almost three centuries later in 1773, Franciscan friar, June Pedro Sarah, wrote about Spanish soldiers assaulting indigenous women in Californiaifornia writing when both men and women at the side of Spanish soldiers would take off running yet in terror the soldiers adept as they are at last so in cows and mules would last so indian women who then became prey for their unbridled lust ye doesn't sound like uh... those women were uh... you know doing their best
Starting point is 01:16:20 to sexually tempt anyone they were running in terror from the morally superior catholic who last-oddened rape them. God will be done. Also butchered the men, right? I'm sure butchered a lot of women for trying to fight off the rapist. The Spanish behavior maybe didn't change so much over almost three centuries of colonization here.
Starting point is 01:16:36 These examples show that women attempted to fight back run away hide from their attackers. These examples just a few snapshots of the many thousands of women who were raped and killed. I can list off many other similar historical records. And it wasn't just the Spaniards, it was all the colonizers. The shit they did not teach us in history classes, right? All these fucking bullshit panians of natives and Europeans. Ha ha, yes, my hair have some corn.
Starting point is 01:16:57 You know, get along together. Eeeh! Ah, so glad you're here. That life is better now. Ha ha. I'm sure that also happened, but it definitely wasn't all that happened. And it's fucked how brainwashed we've been in school, right?
Starting point is 01:17:11 My European ancestors didn't come over primarily to be friend or peacefully get along with anyone. They came here to take to rape plunder butcher, right? All sanctified by the Pope or other religious leaders. Of course, I accept this truth because it is the truth. Doesn't make me less good of a person for admitting that it's true. Doesn't mean I'll stand for anyone trying to guilt me personally for shit that happened before I was born long before, but to deny it, why? Why do so many of us want to hide from cultural
Starting point is 01:17:36 and national sins? It's fucking childish and pathetic. I'm thankful to be able to live here today, despite how my people got here, proud of the many accomplishments my ancestors have accomplished as well, right? So with technology, medical marvels, industrialization allowing so many of us to live so much better lives and not scrape in existence off the land and starve at alarming rates, but also gotten damn, a lot of evil carried out by supposed European Christians feeling justified and saving the souls of the savages they took everything from, the souls of the ones they'd rafed and butchered.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Through the process of colonization, the Europeans seemed to come to view the land itself is having a gender. Early colonizers described the land as being virgin, bountiful, unbridled, untamed, free for the taking. Colonizers' rape and earth itself taken what they wanted. These same ideas were of course applied to indigenous women. Not only the land, but the people needed to be conquered by Europeans. In the book Conquest to Paradise, Christopher Columbus and the Colombian legacy, prolific and heralded American author and historian Kirkpatrick sale or Sally or fucking Kirkpatrick. Maybe his last name is Kirkpatrick too. Maybe his spelled sale and pronounced Kirkpatrick.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Kirkpatrick, Kirkpatrick. No. Rights to women of America were as much of a part of the bounty due to conquering Europeans as the other resources in which it luxuriated. Attitudes towards sex women were every bit as exploitative and instrumental as those towards nature. Mother Earth and Earth Mother were all one, all to be used. Another part of the violent campaign against women was attempting to establish a patriarchal
Starting point is 01:18:59 hierarchy with an indigenous community in order to control indigenous women. One way for Europeans to accomplish that was sexual violence and enslavement. Alright, another well documented MMIW case, considered one of the first truly well documented in the land that became the US, is the 1613 kidnapping of Pocahontas. Turns out, and you might want to sit down for this. Pocahontas, I hate to be the one to tell you this. It was not actually a Disney princess. I know. Fucking Roy Disney! Lies that wicked, evil, mother killing, dark wizard put into our minds.
Starting point is 01:19:34 20 Disney lawyers listening. I am joking. That's a call back to an old joke about Roy Disney. I appreciate you soulless Disney fucks not suing me. Thank you very much. For the original 1995 animated Disney film since the real Pocahontas was 11 or 12, maybe even as young as 9 or 10, when she met John Smith, she was depicted as being around 18 or 19. So it wasn't so fucking creepy because Disney execs into the real history to be sleazy. Even though Pocahontas didn't ever actually had romantic
Starting point is 01:20:01 relationship in real life with John Smith. Pocahontas did not have a Disney love story of any kind. She did not share romantic kiss with John Smith and longingly watched his ship depart back across Atlantic River telling him he was welcome, return to any time. Real Pocahontas was a rafed by colonial and slavers and basically trafficked. She was kidnapped. She never had a sexual relationship of any kind with John as his head. She was around 10 when she met him.
Starting point is 01:20:22 He was 28. She does seem to have respected him as type of father figure, did have a sexual relationship with the colonizer. It doesn't seem to have been romantic. Now that we've looked at it with a little more accuracy and not tried to whitewash everything. The real Pocahontas daughter of Poweton, the leader of the Alliance of Algonquin speaking tribes in that area. She lived in what is now tied water of Virginia.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Pocahontas, most likely around 18 years old, when she was later kidnapped by the English force to live in one of their settlements. So enslaved, Captain Samuel Argoll orchestrated the plot to kidnapped Pocahontas. Argoll was an English sailor employed by the Virginia company in 1609 to discover a shorter route to Virginia
Starting point is 01:20:59 and fish for sturgeon. 1610 became Admiral of Virginia or to expel the French from all English territory. Argo found out that Pocahontas was living with Potouwamic people at the time. She may have been visiting her husband, Cocoaum or Cocoaum's people, or doing some political work for her father.
Starting point is 01:21:15 She was married to Cocoaum. Several sources report that a child together. Imagine she probably loved that child, wanted to stay with that child. Argo knew that things were tense between the English and Potouwam. He figured that if he captured Pocahontas, he would have leveraged against him Imagine she probably loved that shout, wanted to stay with that shout. Argo knew that things were tense between the English and Patoan. He figured that if he captured Pocahontas,
Starting point is 01:21:27 he would have leveraged against him to help subdue his people. Argo met with the, with Jopasah, chief of the town of, whoo, Pasa Patanzi, and brother to the chief of the Patamwak. He spoke to Jopasah through an English boy translator, this Jopasah guy is numerous names in different sources
Starting point is 01:21:48 Through English translator if he did not betray polka haunas and to my hands We would no longer be brothers nor friends Jopasaw refused told our goal that potta one would start a war Our goal then threatened war as well promised protection from potta one job as I said he had to consult with his older brother after hours of liberation They decided to go through the kidnapping polka haunas polka haunas Excuse me went with Jopasaw's wife to see Captain Argole's ship. Javasana's wife pretended she wanted to go on board because she knew he would only let her if Pocahontas went with her. Pocahontas could most likely tell something was wrong,
Starting point is 01:22:13 tried to refuse, but then agreed to go when Javasana's wife started crying. They ate a meal on board, Pocahontas went to the gutters room to sleep, then in the morning, Argole refused to let her leave the ship. So she's kidnapped. He declared she's been held as ransom for the return of stolen weapons and English prisoners. Javasana's wife now leave, Argo refused to let her leave the ship. So she's kidnapped. He declared she's been held as ransom for the return of stolen weapons and English prisoners.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Joppa son is wife now leave Argo all pays in with the copper kettle and other items. Argo now takes polka haunt us to Jamestown to govern her Sir Thomas Gates. Polka potter want agrees to give up ransom. The ransom if they will bring his beloved daughter back to his territory. Marshall Thomas Dale Gates, his second cousin to command decides to send her though to Henrico, a Jamestown settlement. There were no women in Jamestown. They were all in Henrico. Pochana could spend her time with women become more socialized while being held captive Pochana.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Now spent most of her time with Reverend Alexander Whitaker. They started studying the Bible. I'm sure she was strongly course to do so. Pochana then goes to Fort Patience, one of five small forts with Reverend Whitaker. Whitaker wanted nothing more than to convert an indigenous person to Christianity. It's a reason he came to Virginia. He believed they lived in darkness. Their nakedness symbolized spiritual poverty, sin.
Starting point is 01:23:12 He believed God saved the colony of Jamestown many times because he wanted them to convert native people. Whitaker also realized that Polkahontas was intelligent. He was one of the few who believed indigenous people were as intelligent as the English and wrote, let us not think that these men are so simple as somehow supposed them for they are of body, lusty, strong and very nimble. They are a very understanding generation, quick of apprehension, sedate in their dispatches, subtile in their delings, exquisite in their inventions and industrious in their labor.
Starting point is 01:23:43 And again, if someone's talking like that, they'd be like, shut what the fuck are you saying? Come on. Ah, a Pocahontas spent all week studying with the Reverend. Then she had to present her perform what she knew by residing, conversing with English settlers. She attended church every Sunday, spent the day in town while Reverend Whitaker taught class. And that's most likely how she met John Rolf. John Rolf would become famous for introducing, introducing tobacco to Virginians. And Pocahontas and John Rolf were married in 1614.
Starting point is 01:24:08 And she gave birth to a son named Thomas. The stories usually say that, you know, if I can have a happy marriage, but she did not likely want to marry him. Remember, she was a captive and already had a husband and a kid that she missed early. Pocahontas most likely cooperated with her kidnappers and went along with the marriage because that was the custom for her people to time. Pocahontas led you toated with their kidnappers and went along with the marriage because that was the custom for her people to time. Pocahontas, uh, let's you had a nervous breakdown during her captivity. And when the English sent for her sister to help her, Pocahontas told her sister she'd been raped by John and was possibly pregnant.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Again, not when we are taught in school. Real Pocahontas kidnapped traffic likely raped. Uh, writing to these early explorers, the press and they set on how to deal with indigenous women, how they saw them as property to be possessed. Right, this treatment, of course, influenced the colonizers of the 18th and 19th centuries who settled in the US and Canada. White women didn't have a whole lot of rights at that time. Native women could be used, however, men wanted to use them. They had fucking no rights. Early Americans, the 18th and 19th centuries, early Canadians, they already had ideas, images, stereotypes about indigenous people, especially women in their minds.
Starting point is 01:25:07 On the June 2020 issue of Restoration Magazine by the National Indigenous Women's Resource Center, National Indigenous Women's Resource Center policy team members wrote a statement that argues that colonization policies laid the groundwork for later laws that will contribute to the modern MMIW crisis. From the beginning of European contact, Indian nations as sovereigns, engage with foreign countries as governments, as sovereigns, Indian nations held full authority
Starting point is 01:25:31 over the lands and peoples within their respective territories. The diminishment of this authority to a position of dependent nations within the United States occurred as a result of US colonization. While violence against native women is committed by individuals, abusers, rapists, traffickers, it is federal colonial policies and laws that created the social setting for such crimes. While violence against native women is committed by individuals, abusers, rapists, traffickers, it is federal colonial policies and laws that created the social setting for such crimes.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Makes total sense if you live within a cultural atmosphere where the rape and exploitation of certain women is permissible because they're not seen as actual equal human beings. And of course, sadly, there's a lot of fucking dirt bags in the world and always will be in a lot of rape and exploitation is going to happen. The Nationalist Indigenous Women's Resource Center policy team believes that reforms needed to address the MMIW crisis will require U.S. citizens in the government to go back and assess colonial era laws. To not ignore history, you get fucking butt hurt when people want to educate their children
Starting point is 01:26:19 with the truth. Instead of banning factual books and narratives, can't heal a wound without admitting it is a wound, can't make am wound without admitting it is a wound, can't make amends and heal if the offending party won't own up to their offenses. Let's explore now what the policy team means when they referenced diminishment of the sovereign authority to a position of dependent nations. When the US was formed, the colonists viewed indigenous tribes as full sovereigns, independent nations. In the 1787, the US Constitution control over Indian
Starting point is 01:26:46 affairs was under the federal government and tribes had full authority to govern themselves within their territories. Excuse me. This all changed, of course, as we examined pretty thoroughly in episode 246 when we sucked the trailer tears and also was touched on a few other sucks. Once you had citizens wanted to expand their territory. From the National Indigenous Women's Resource Center again, the shift from international diplomacy to federal colonialism, undermine the right of Indian nations to self-government, and the authority to protect native women.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Current federal Indian law is often referred to as a maze of injustice. It lacks logic and a moral standard because it was created based on the drive of the US to lay stake to tribal lands and resources. Let's examine how this federal colonialism enacted specific laws over the past 200 plus years that led directly to today's missing and murdered indigenous women crisis. In 1817, Congress passes the Federal Enclaves Act.
Starting point is 01:27:36 The Federal Enclaves Act established federal jurisdictions over non-indigenous people who commit crimes and tribal land and over-indigenous people for offenses against non-indigenous people. The act declared the general laws of the United States as to the punishment of offenses committed in any place within the soul and exclusive jurisdiction of the United States extend to the Indian country. Tribal land now became a federal enclave or federal property like a building, a park, a military base, etc. The act doesn't apply to crimes committed by indigenous people against other indigenous
Starting point is 01:28:05 people, though. Offenses punished by a tribe or crimes in which a treaty gave a tribe exclusive jurisdiction. So from the very beginning, there was confusion over how the tribe should govern themselves, kind of allowed, but not really to govern themselves. In general, a treaty would be signed, and the tribe would be told, oh, fuck yeah, fuck yeah, you guys, you get this land it's your nation yeah run shit how you see fit oh hell hell yeah and then submission areas or maybe some miners fur trappers whatever would enter the native land with permission
Starting point is 01:28:34 or illegally and they would see things they didn't care for and they would run in tattled to the US government and then the government would approach the tribe again. Hey guys, uh, hey member, you remember when we were like, oh, fuck yeah, run shit. How you see fit and stuff. Um, well, when we said that, we assumed that you would run shit like we run shit. And, uh, since you don't, you know, uh, we're going to have to remind you that you do need to run things the way we want you to because you're not really in control. And then when the tribes refused,, they would come back with, hey guys, remember, remember when we said that this land was your nation? Yeah, that wasn't like 100% true. It's like
Starting point is 01:29:16 kind of your land, but mostly hours. And we have final say, hey, pretend that you know, okay, pretending you're a college kid and we're your parents and you're living in an apartment off campus. No curfew, yay, live your own life, party, but then you've flunked some classes and now we gotta fucking tug on the leash. Now we gotta remind ya, not really free. Ha ha ha, now we can still fuck your life up.
Starting point is 01:29:38 If you're not living it like we want you to. And as a college analogy doesn't make sense cause that analogy comes in the future. How about this? Fucking do what we fucking tell you or we're gonna kill you motherfuckers Now go back to playing house dipshits in the fucking backyard that we own it was that kind of vibe Uh the reduction of rights continued in 1823 That year the US Supreme Court made their decision in Johnson versus me and Tosh
Starting point is 01:30:04 It's a weird name. It's like Makin' Tosh, but without the sea. So somebody had a fucking dumb name back in 1823 and forgot to put a fucking sea in there. So Johnson versus Fucking Dipshit, with the determined that private citizens cannot purchase land from indigenous people. Chief Justice John Marshall
Starting point is 01:30:21 said that Native nations did not have legal authority over the land, because they hadn't privatized it. It's a weird rationalization. Hey, did you guys, uh, divide up your land like we asked you to? No, well, then it's not your land anymore. This is part of the view that Native people lived on land owned by the federal government had no ownership over their ancestral land.
Starting point is 01:30:37 1825 Congress passed the assimilated Crimes Act now, which states with whoever within or upon any federal enclave, it's guilty of any act or a mission, which although not made punishable by any enactment of Congress would be punishable if committed or admitted within the jurisdiction of the state territory possession or district in which such places situate by the laws thereof in force at the time of such act or a mission shall be guilty of a like offense and subject to a like punishment. Legal language, no offense to any of the lawyers. Listen, I know we have a lot of lawyers. I know we have a lot of you great people, but it makes me want to punch you fuckers in
Starting point is 01:31:09 your faces. It just seems like it's intentionally confusing. This act was created to address some legal loopholes. People who committed crimes in the federal enclaves were not being punished because there were no laws prohibiting that particular crime and states had no jurisdiction. This act now made state laws applicable to federal enclaves. But the act didn't address what happened to a non-indigenous defendant or victim on tribal land.
Starting point is 01:31:31 In 1881, the Supreme Court made their decision in the US versus Mick Bratney, someone who remembered the C after the M, good job, Mick Bratney, where a non-indigenous person was murdered by another non-indigenous person on the Ute Reservation Colorado. The defendant was found guilty in a federal court, but appealed because he claimed there
Starting point is 01:31:47 was no fairs federal jurisdiction in the case. And the Supreme Court agreed with the defendant. Supreme Court agreed with the murderer. Yep, you're getting away with it. Ha ha, we do think you killed that motherfucker, but you killed him in no man's land. So good job. And he was injured, not an actual man. So who cares?
Starting point is 01:32:03 Good job killing. The court ruled that when a non-indigenous person commits a crime against another non-indigenous person on a reservation, wait, I'm sorry. Nope, I fucked up in my little silly bit there. No, he was, let me, let me reverse. Killing a man's land and he was fucking white piece of shit, but that's okay, because no one's saying,
Starting point is 01:32:21 good killing, there, that fixes it. The court ruled that when a non-indigenous person commits a crime against another non-indigenous person on a reservation, the state has jurisdiction That's okay. No, that's not it. Good killing. There. That fixes it. The court ruled that when a non-indigenous person commits a crime against another non-indigenous person on a reservation, the state has jurisdiction unless the act admitting the state into the union gave jurisdiction to another party. It's more confusing. Refocusing specifically on Native women now. January 26, 1867, the federal government issues the Do Little Report, part of which detailed
Starting point is 01:32:43 sexual violence against indigenous women. So that they're already thinking about it enough at this time, which is surprising actually that they do a report on it. It's the first government report to do so. Two years earlier, March 3rd, 1865, Congress had established a joint special committee on conditions of Indian tribes. The do little commission was ordered to investigate the present condition of the Indian tribes, especially into the matter in which they are treated by the civil and military authorities of the United States and examined fully the conduct of Indian
Starting point is 01:33:08 agents and superintendents. So this is after decades of complaints, the commission found fraud and corruption within the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Commission also reported a lot of violence against indigenous women. For example, after the 1864 San Creek massacre occurring in present day Colorado, Lieutenant James Conner spoke about here and reports US soldiers Cutting out women's genitals stretching them over their fucking saddle bows and wearing them on their hats Soldiers going full serial killer
Starting point is 01:33:36 The government reported that after the camp grant massacre of 1871 a current present day Arizona Women were found lying in such a position and from the appearance of their general organs and of their wounds, there can be no doubt that they were first ravished, which is what they used to call rape and then shot dead. Yeah. Next important influence influential bit of US legal news came concerning the tribes when the Supreme Court made their decision in ex parte Crow Dog, this case in 1883. August 5, 1881, Crow Dog, a Lakota man, killed another Lakota man named Spotted Tail on the Rosebud Indian Reservation.
Starting point is 01:34:12 A tribal court ruled that Crow Dog was now required to take care of Spotted Tail's family and could no longer participate in community activities in accordance with tribal law. Jewish government didn't like that sense. Now they arrested Crow Dog, charging with the same murder again. The Dakota Territorial Court then tried and sentenced Kro-Dog to death.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Any appealed? Or arguing that the federal government had no right to try him for any crimes that occurred on tribal lands against tribal members? U.S. Supreme Court now heard the case, ex-partei Kro-Dog, that agreed with Kro-Dog. The court ruled unanimously that the Dakota territorial court had no jurisdiction over the reservation because it was native on native crime on native land. Jurisdiction was returned to the Lakota nation under Lakota law that the original sentence was reinstated and to take care of the Spada Tills family. No longer participate in community
Starting point is 01:34:58 services, right? The case angered a lot of the Dakota white people who thought that capital punishment was the only proper justice for victims on the way to maintain order. So partially because of that outcry, the major crimes act of 1885, the final of numerous Indian appropriations acts carried out in 1885, a series of laws passed mainly to allow white sellers to take more native land, gave federal jurisdiction and all native territories over seven major crimes committed by indigenous people against indigenous people on tribal land. The list of crimes was originally murder, manslaughter, rape, assault with intent to kill, arson, hula hoopin and a non-hula hoopin sanctioned zone, and larceny, or burglary instead of
Starting point is 01:35:39 the hula hoopin bullshit. Now, if a native person is suspected of raping or killing, et cetera, another native person, right, feds get involved. But if the crime involved non-Indians, the state held that tribal land inside of it, whichever state that was, they had jurisdiction. But if the crime was not one of these major crimes, neither the state nor the feds had jurisdiction, the tribes did. But they didn't always have law enforcement agencies.
Starting point is 01:36:04 Do you see how fucking confusing this is just getting more and more confusing and it's gotten more in the year since David Soutner former Supreme Court Justice from 1990 to 2008 said once that Tribal jurisdiction is peculiarly peculiarly susceptible to confusion and current Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas said that federal Indian policy is skits a frenic. Fun. Now the major crimes act includes kidnapping, incest, assault with a dangerous weapon, assault, resulting in serious bodily injury, assault with intent to commit rape, robbery, and
Starting point is 01:36:35 philonia sexual molestation of a minor. It's been expanded. Original act was just two short paragraphs long, but the major crimes act, a substantial encroachment on native sovereignty that they continue to impact native communities today. They're just not allowed to handle their own serious cases. The act was written based on the idea that indigenous people, yeah, not competent enough to deal with their own legal affairs affairs. Now tribes not allowed to punish anyone who commits major crimes in their lands. The feds have to do it, but the feds do not have to be properly funded to be able to do it and often aren't.
Starting point is 01:37:07 And that's been a big fucking problem. Source after source mentions how there is just not nearly enough agents working with the tribes. Per the FBI's own website, the FBI investigates the most serious crimes in Indian country, such as murder, child sexual and physical abuse, violent assaults, drug trafficking, public corruption, financial crimes, and Indian gaming violations. More than 150 agents work Indian country matters full time. So they say more than 150, I'm guessing it's like 151.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Less than 160. In the whole country, signed to investigate these crimes. There are also about five hundred or excuse me, there are also five hundred and seventy four federally recognized American Indian tribes in the US. The FBI has federal law enforcement responsibility on nearly 200 separate reservations. The federal jurisdiction is shared concurrently with the Bureau of Indian Affairs, which adds confusion. Should it be the BIA?
Starting point is 01:37:55 Should it be the FBI? The BIA? It's a 2004. Most recent year, I can find info about this for 320 officers. So 150 roughly FBI agents, 320 BIA officers for nearly 200 Indian reservations, some of which are massive. The Crow Indian reservation,
Starting point is 01:38:12 headquartered in Crow agency, the largest reservation in Montana, encompasses approximately 2.2 million acres, over half the size of Connecticut, the Crow tribe has a membership of 11,000, of which 7,900 reside on this reservation. And that particularly big ass area, according to Terrell Bracken, former first Crow Chief of Police has a total of five BIA officers, five officers to handle major violent crimes
Starting point is 01:38:36 and missing person cases. Plus, it doesn't say how many few FBI officers and Billings, two R plus drive for much the reservation. But the FBI officers and that small field office and billions also, you know, responsible for investigating fraud, corruption, cyber scams, child pornography, terrorism, criminal networks, lots of white color crime. Due to a perceived massive lack of local enforcement, the Crow tribe living on one of seven reservations in Montana, assembled as own law enforcement agency that
Starting point is 01:39:02 trailbracken used to be chief of. It folded after five months before folding, Trel said they had no self-service in much of the area. They covered no radio service for their vehicles, no way to communicate with anyone when they were patrolling a huge rural territory and talked about how I-90 cuts through part of the reservation, part where there is, you know, really almost no law enforcement a perfect place for women to go missing or be murdered. Bracken said the agency was formed in large part because the BIA and the FBI were not handling
Starting point is 01:39:28 cases of missing and murdered women. Right? Terrell and others interviewed in that vice-doc I watched at the tribe had to fund their own agency because not enough agents to handle a huge area. And the agents working the area generally responded to missing people reports with apathy. Ah, they're probably out partying, party. Maybe they ran away. Let us know if you still haven't heard anything in a few days, even though as I went over earlier, the first
Starting point is 01:39:48 40 to 72 hours critical to solving cases, racons agency again, did not last long. No official reason given probably went down because of lack of funding. That reservation, one of the poorest parts of the US, the poorest county in the entire US, South Dakota's, uh, Ogla, La Cota County, not far from the Crow reservation contained entirely within the boundaries of the Pine Ridge reservation, lowest per capita income in the US $8,768 a year. Yee, because of rampant poverty across many reservations. And also because of the confusing maze of tribal state, county and federal laws, tribal officers can't really punish anyone. They catch anyway, unless the feds decide to prosecute because of all this break. Bracken others have spoken
Starting point is 01:40:28 out about the jurisdictional nightmare of these cases that I've been, you know, talking about, depending on where the crime occurs or where a person is reported missing, the crime could fall to either state, federal, county or tribal authorities, the county sheriff's department, the federal Bureau of Indian Affairs, the FBI, the tribal police to investigate too many agencies jockeying in four authorities. Sometimes they're supposed to work together on certain cases. If there are both tribal and non-native suspects and or victims, right? The jurisdiction follows to numerous agencies, none of whom have been given clear mandates
Starting point is 01:40:56 as to who the fuck is in charge of the investigation. Agencies might not even, might end up in charge even though they don't have the resources, excuse me, to properly investigate. Oftentimes tribal MMIW cases end up in a gray area between all the agencies and slip through the cracks. Again, according to formal tribal police chief, Bracken, an Indian reservation for all intents and purposes is a sovereign nation. It is subject to completely different laws governing bodies, like a country within a country.
Starting point is 01:41:22 So a big horned county deputy can show up at a tribal members doorstep on the reservation. And that tribal member can say, you have no right to be here. You have no jurisdiction here. And they have to leave. It can be very difficult to solve the fucking anything. Tribal police again can arrest non-native perpetrators of violent crimes. The maximum sense of tribal law enforcement can impose on anyone for any crime in the Navajo nation reservation. occupies portions of Northeastern Arizona, Northwestern New Mexico, Southeastern Utah area, bigger than New Hampshire and Vermont, combined home to roughly 175,000 Navajo
Starting point is 01:41:54 is a year incarceration and a $5,000 fine, even for murder. If the feds don't want to prosecute and the driver police do, that's the most thick and punished someone for any fucking crime. That crazy ass law applies to all tribal lands. And it's been changed recently.
Starting point is 01:42:07 I'll explain later, but not by much. The tribes can't punish non-natives for fucking anything. State governments can't punish non-tribal numbers for crimes committed on tribal lands until June of this year. How crazy that state governments could not punish non-tribal numbers for crimes committed on tribal lands until June of 2022. The Supreme Court ruled on June 29th. The states can finally prosecute non-native people who commit crimes against native people
Starting point is 01:42:31 in tribal lands. What is happening? Okay, back to our timeline now. In 1887, the DAW's General Allotment Act has passed. Reservation land divided into individual parcels of land by the federal government in an effort to assimilate indigenous people into a new way of life parcels distributed to individuals, rather than communal land men are usually given 160 acres for the families Rosevelt later called the DAW's act a mighty pulverizing engine to break up the tribal mass
Starting point is 01:42:59 Teddy did a lot of good things later as president, but treating tribes fairly not one of the things he did at all, not a fan of the natives. This act was a way to attempt to get indigenous people to imitate a traditional European Christian way of life, to destroy cultural focus on community and acted a good job of them. Today, the majority of indigenous people do not long no longer live on tribal lands and there is much less community than they used to be. Jump away up to the mid-20th century now. Many indigenous people moved away from tribal lands and there is much less community than there used to be. Jump away up to the mid 20th century now. Many indigenous people moved away from tribal lands during World War II or shortly thereafter for, you know, either the military or job opportunities.
Starting point is 01:43:34 The Indian Relocation Act of 1956 stated in part, be enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America and Congress assembled that in order to help adult Indians who reside on or near Indian reservations to obtain reasonable and satisfactory employment. The Secretary of the Interior has authorized to undertake a program of vocational training that provides for vocational counseling or guidance, institutional training and any recognized vocational or trade apprenticeship and on the job training for periods of do not exceed 24 months, transportation to the place of training and substance during the course of
Starting point is 01:44:04 training. This opportunity led to hundreds, led to hundreds of thousands of natives leaving their tribal lands. The government also pursued policies of termination, right? In the decades following, we were to the led to a large number of Native Americans moving out of tribal lands between 1953 and 1968. Termination refers to the federal policy involving termination of the federal government's trust relationship with Indian tribes. And as a consequence, the elimination of federal benefits and support services to the terminated tribes. The living conditions on the reservations were found to be so horrific by the US government 1950s, with so many residents living in severe poverty
Starting point is 01:44:41 that the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the federal and the federal bureaucracy were found to be at fault for. And rather than build up the infrastructure on these tribal lands. The 1950s tribes were annihilated with legislation like House concurrent resolution 108 that called for the immediate termination of the flathead, Klamath, Monomony, Patawami and Turtle Mountain, Chippewa as well as all tribes that say it's California, New York, Florida and Texas. Termination of these tribes meant that the immediate withdrawal
Starting point is 01:45:07 of all federal aid, services and protection, as well as the end of reservations. So basically like, it's not going well. There's a fucking too much poverty in here now, so we're just gonna give up on this. We're just gonna like, nope, you just gotta live like everybody else. Individual members of Terminated Tribes
Starting point is 01:45:20 were then to become full US citizens and have the benefits and obligations of other US citizens. There are still some reservations in three states, thanks to newer, in these states, excuse me, thanks to newer legislation, but again, it's complicated. This fucking whole side of it is fucked and complicated. These termination relocation policies ended in the 1970s, but Native Americans have continued moving to urban areas ever since, especially since these policies left, you know, most existing reservations in shambles, they were just gutted. According to the two,
Starting point is 01:45:49 and they were already not doing well, according to the 2010 census, about 71% of people who identifies AI now live in urban areas. Castleman writes, through policies of outright physical annihilation of native peoples, excuse me, though policies about right physical annihilation were abandoned by the middle of the 20th century, the US Federal government was still deeply entrenched in addressing what it continued to see as quote the Indian problem. In exchange for more land, Castleman wrote that the government entered a trust relationship with indigenous people now. The government became a trustee of resources and guaranteed to provide services in protect land and nation native sovereignty. I was supposed to be doing that before and the US government has done a terrible job of providing these services. Public law 280 mentioned before the timeline, past 1953,
Starting point is 01:46:29 PL 280 transferred jurisdiction to state governments in certain cases. Public law 280 was part of the termination era. PL 280 transferred again, as I said earlier jurisdiction to states of California, Minnesota, excluding, you know, the red lake nation Nebraska, Oregon, excluding Warmsprings, reservation Wisconsin and Alaska once became a state. These six states were home to 359 of the 550 federally recognized tribes, meaning PL 280 affected 65 percent of tribes. The FBI writes the federal law granted so-called mandatory states, all criminal and civil jurisdiction over Indian land within their borders.
Starting point is 01:47:05 This law effectively terminated all tribal criminal jurisdictions in the affected tribal areas within these states. Since states were later allowed to opt in, PL 280, a sense applied to the Vadas, Hattikota, Washington, Florida, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Arizona, Iowa, Utah. It's been a common misinterpretation that the Major Crimes Act took away all tribal authority to prosecute offenders. Public law, too, also has been grossy misinterpreted in many places. Attorney general attorney general, Janineau clarified the travel court still had some jurisdiction
Starting point is 01:47:32 over certain crimes under both statutes, but because of a consistent misinterpretation, travel courts have not prosecuted certain cases on their lands for decades. And again, such a fucking mess. In 1968, Congress passed the Indian Civil Rights Act. The ICRA limited tribal jurisdiction over indigenous people further to misdemeanors. The ICRA ensured the tribal governments cannot pass laws that violated a U.S. citizens' constitutional rights. One of those rights that was protected was the right to a jury of at least six people. Several others were included in the list, the ICRI limited travel
Starting point is 01:48:05 courts to sentencing offenders to that one year in prison or $5,000 fine. That's where this comes from. And again, it's for any crime, murder, rape, whatever. If the feds want to investigate a major crime and tribal land for whatever reason, and the tribe happens to have a tribal law enforcement agency, which many didn't, and then now they arrested somebody for raping and murdering some native woman and the tribal jury convicted them. Most punishment they could dish out a year in jail and a $5,000 fine. It's somebody for raping and murdering some native woman and the tribal jury convicted them most punishment
Starting point is 01:48:25 They could dish out a year in jail and a five thousand dollar fine Even worse if a non-native, you know, we're the murder and rape and native woman on tribal land and the feds didn't act The tribal police had no power to do fucking anything to punish the offender Can't believe this is real. The violence against women act federal legislation is signed into law on September 13th 1994 by former president Bill Clinton. And it fixed everything, and we have no more problems. No, it didn't do shit. The VAWA expanded the judicial tools and theory to combat violence against women and protection, and provide protection for women who had suffered violent abuses. The original VAWA was enacted as Title IV of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act. The passage of the VAWA allowed the creation of the office of on violent against,
Starting point is 01:49:08 on violence against women, excuse me, within the Department of Justice. All these long ass fucking titles. The O.V.W. was tasked with implementing the new VAWA legislation and administering grant programs to state and local governments. These grants were meant to work on preventing and addressing domestic violence and child abuse. The Department of Justice worked with the Department of Health and Human Services. HHS grants gave funds for shelters, rape prevention and education, programs for sexual abuse,
Starting point is 01:49:34 runaway and homeless youth, as well as community programs on domestic violence. The, I'm gonna say, Vawa. Vawa also mandated government funding for studies on violence against women. Vawa reauthorized in 2005, 2005, 2013, 2022 this year, the original Vawa allowed victims of gender motivated crimes classified as hate crimes to sue and federal court, but in 2000 Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional.
Starting point is 01:49:57 Okay. It was the first comprehensive US legislation meant to end violence against women. And that sounds good, right? Also established federal protection for women, people who have been fighting for this for years because they believe states are not doing enough to address violence against women. And Vaba included the first federal law against battery.
Starting point is 01:50:13 And that's good, right? Hallows of Fina took four long years to get the act passed because of opposition to the private civil rights remedy provision that allowed victims of gender-based violence to sue the perpetrator. But in spite of all the good that's acted, vision that allowed victims of gender-based violence to sue the perpetrator, but in spite of all the the good that's acted, did it change the jurisdictional mess? So it can actually help native women. Living on reservations. No, it didn't. It helped women in general, basically, minus native women, especially women in living on reservations, just as fucked up
Starting point is 01:50:40 as it was before this was passed. 2008, 2009, Congress worked on creating an apology to native peoples. And that what's going to stop missing a murder in indigenous women in apology. Yeah, as we're sorry. Hey, everyone just stop killing everybody. Great. I didn't know was that easy. April 30th, 2009, Senator Sam Brownback, former governor of Kansas, introduced joint resolution to acknowledge and apologize for the mistreatment of Native Americans. Title, joint resolution to acknowledge a long history of official deputations and ill-conceived policies by the federal government regarding Indian tribes and offer an apology to all Native people on behalf of the U.S. On December 19, 2009, President Barack Obama signed the Native American apology resolution
Starting point is 01:51:18 as part of the 2010 Department of Defense Appropriations Act. In this act, Congress recognizes that there have been years of official deputations, ill-conceived policies and the breaking of covenants by the federal government regarding Indian tribes. Government apologizes on behalf of the people of the US to all native peoples, or the many instances of violence, maltreatment and neglect inflicted on native peoples by citizens of the US. And thanks to that apology, you know, it, uh, it did fix everything finally. The tribes are stronger than ever. There's more buffalo. Tribes have been allowed to return to ancestral lands, government is the
Starting point is 01:51:46 c-fit, they're allowed to defend their women, women allowed to defend themselves from non-tribals sexually violent aggressors like never before or nothing at all has changed. Congress encouraged the president to acknowledge the wrongs that the U.S. uh... had committed against indigenous people and for it she no president has actually ever presented this apology. There was currently a movement to call on President Biden to do this, to present this apology to indigenous people. Will he do it? I fucking doubt it.
Starting point is 01:52:10 Sadly, there is just not enough political advantage in doing so, not enough tribe members around anymore to have any real political weight to throw around. How sad, not enough voting power to move major politicians into any action. July 29, 2010, Barack Obama signed to tribal law and order act into law. And this did a tiny bit of good, but not a lot.
Starting point is 01:52:30 The TLOA encouraged coordination between tribe, state governments and federal government. TLOA increased tribal authority over cases involving indigenous offenders. Oh man, it allowed tribal courts to send offenders to three years. And $15,000 fines. And if there's multiple offenses, you can get all the way up to nine years.
Starting point is 01:52:48 So now if tribal police arrested a native guy who raped some native woman like ten times on tribal land and then in less than a kid, a couple dozen times and then fucking kill her, he could go to jail for up to nine years. He could nine fucking years. That's progress. Uh, can tribal police effectively defend women from non-tribal sexually violent aggressors? No. As mentioned previously, multiple times. Now, jurisdiction, confusion, hinders, investigations, to this day, waste resources, even with that new law, tribes may still not have equal access
Starting point is 01:53:19 to law enforcement or be willing to utilize non-tribal systems? Even the TOLOA acknowledged that. Same because tribal nations, local groups are not participants in the decision making. The resulting federal and state decisions, laws, rules and regulations, excuse me, about criminal justice, often are considered as lacking legitimacy. As widely reported in testimony to the commission, non-tribally administrative criminal justice programs are less likely to garner tribal citizen confidence and trust, resulting in diminished crime fighting capacities. That's another whole fucking part of this mess is even when good is trying to be done by the other government.
Starting point is 01:53:50 It is usually met with resistance by the tribes because it's not part of their decision-making process, even though they don't have the infrastructure to properly handle their jurisdiction anymore. It's a whole fucking thing. The consequences are many. Victims are dissuaded from reporting witnesses are reluctant to come forward to testify in short. Victims of witnesses frequently do not trust or agree with state or federal justice procedures. And potential violators are undeterred. In 2013, the Violence Against Women
Starting point is 01:54:14 Act was reauthorized. Fucking who cares? Nothing really changes. If a travel court wants to prosecute a non-indigenous defender now, the offender must be proven to have sufficient ties to the tribal community, such as living in the territory, being employed by the tribe, being a spouse or partner of a tribe member or a non-tribe member, but a member of a different tribe who lives in that tribe's territory. And even if all that she's proven, tribes still cannot prosecute crimes that co-occur with domestic violence, like drug and alcohol offenses or crimes against you. What the fuck is happening. With this new edition some non-triple motherfucker could hit a tribal woman and molester kids be charged with domestic violence by the tribe if proven to have connections to the tribe would not be charged with the time most days by the tribe. The feds would have to take that up and source Adversource says they just dropped the ball and she'll like this continually.
Starting point is 01:55:02 says they just dropped the ball and she liked this continually. Oh boy, October 5th, 2017, Savannah's act, aka the hashtag MMIW act is introduced in the Senate by a Heidi, a height camp of North Dakota, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Catherine Cortez, Mosto, Nevada. It was signed into law by former President Donald Trump. The bill requires Department Justice to provide training to law enforcement agencies on how to record tribal enrollment for victims in federal databases. Development and implement a strategy to educate the public on the national missing and unidentified person system. Conduct specific outreach to tribes,
Starting point is 01:55:34 tribal organizations, and urban Indian organizations regarding the ability to publicly enter information through the national missing and unidentified person system or other non-law enforcement-insensitive portal. Yeah. Develop regionally appropriate guidelines for responses, the cases of missing or murdered Native Americans, provide training and technical assistance to tribes and law enforcement agencies for implementation of the developed guidelines and finally report stats on missing or murdered Native Americans. Has any of that happened? Who the fuck knows? Does this act clean up the confusing
Starting point is 01:56:05 and confounding juridstictional nightmare that encourages perpetrators to continue to target native women? No, it does not. The case behind Savannah's act being introduced extremely horrific act of violence against an indigenous woman. Savannah Lefontein Greywind was killed in 2017. She was a 22 year old woman from Fargo Fargo, North Dakota pregnant at the time of her murder eight months pregnant She was a member of the spirit lake Sioux tribe her family connected with the Turtle Mountain band a chip a wall Savannah lived in an apartment complex in Fargo and on August 19th 2017 at 1.24 pm She went upstairs to an apartment to model address her neighbor Brooke Cruz offered her 20 bucks to do so Brooke would later testify that she instigated a fight
Starting point is 01:56:45 then with Savannah by accusing her of harassing her cat, weird way to start a fight. Then during that fight, Savannah fell hit her head on the bathroom sink, Cruz then cuts Savannah's stomach up and with the fucking box cutter, removed her baby from the uterus while Savannah was in and out of consciousness. Jesus, William Hone, her boyfriend, then comes home, finishes Savannah off by strangling her to death.
Starting point is 01:57:08 They then hide Savannah's body for a few days before dumping it in a local river and try to pass Savannah's baby off as their own. This is the thing they've been plotting for months and months and months. Savannah's body, body, found by kayakers in the Red River, August 27, 2017, wrapped in garbage bags and it snagged on a log. Brooke Cruz sentenced life without parole, February 2, 2017 wrapped in garbage bags. It has snagged on a log. Brook Crew sentenced life without parole February 2, 2018 for Savannah's murder. August 7, 2019, William Hone sentenced to 20 years in prison for conspiracy to commit kidnapping. One year
Starting point is 01:57:35 for lying to police, sentences that are running concurrently, got a deal for testifying against, you know, against Brook Crews. Punishment was dulled out in this case. And that way as sick as this crime was, the victim at least got some justice, more justice in the majority of cases like Savannah where no one is ever arrested. Now, the not invisible act introduced April 2nd, 2019. Four members of federally recognized tribes introduced this act. This act is a congressional act designed to address the crisis of violence and
Starting point is 01:58:03 sexual violence committed against American Indian and Alaska Native men and women. This act decordes the BIA to appoint a federal effort coordinator to combat violence against Native people, establish joint commission on reducing violent crime against Indians within the DOI and DOJ. Create a new position within the Interior Department for murder, trafficking and mis-signate of Americans, form a joint advisory committee between the DOI and DOJ to solve these issues, coordinate prevention efforts, grants and programs related to murder, trafficking, missing Native American people across federal agencies, coordinator directed to work with outside organizations to tribal law enforcement,
Starting point is 01:58:38 Indian health services providers, tribal community members on how to respond to report cases, coordinator required a report to the secretary of interior in Congress. Has anything practical been accomplished because of this act yet that will actually fucking help the MMIW? No. November 26, 2019 executive order, 13898, also called Operation Lady Justice, establishes a task force for missing and murdered indigenous people. Task force will focus on issues like data collection, policies, cold cases, and improved investigations. Former President Trump signed it, right?
Starting point is 01:59:08 And the goals are who gives a fuck? Because it's not fucking helping anything, right? This is more guidelines, more like, hey, we gotta keep talking about anything. Nothing is accomplished. There's a bunch of talk, a bunch of committees analyzing this problem, not acting in ways that are actually helpful. Indigenous people criticized the 2019 executive order because it was not, it would not increase tribal authority to prosecute any offenders. October 10th, 2020, Savannah's Act becomes law, requires the Department of Justice to review, revise and develop policies that address MMIP cases,
Starting point is 01:59:37 fucking blah, blah, blah. Congress enacted Savannah's Act to clarify response with law enforcement agencies. And again, fucking blah, blah, blah, just a bunch of talk, a bunch of data collection, you gotta report better. And it's not gonna be actually be helpful. The same day, the not invisible act becomes law.
Starting point is 01:59:53 Not a visible act requires the DOI to designate an official within the BIAs. I said earlier to coordinate fucking a bunch of bullshit who gives a fuck. As of 2021, the government oversight study found that neither department uh, you know, involved in these fucking new laws had met requirements or gave the recommendations that they were supposed to.
Starting point is 02:00:11 Of course not. November 2020, Operation Lady Justice Task Force submits a progress report who gives a shit. Task Force is criticized for a lack of participation, lack of communication with the agency to expose the fucking talk to. Nothing meaningful is accomplished again. This is just exercises and futility, but to politicians smiling, ah, sign and stuff. Look at me. I sign stuff about an important issue.
Starting point is 02:00:31 Ha, thumbs up. Fucking nothing happens. April 1st, 21, Secretary of Interior Deb Hollande, announces the formation of the Missing Immortal Unit within the Bureau of Indian Affairs and Justice Services. MMU and Extension of Operation Lady Justice, MMU meant to increase cooperation between the DOI and NAMAS, the US Marshals Missing Child Unit and the FBI's BAU and Friends at Collaboratory. Is anything actually been improved? Not sure.
Starting point is 02:00:58 The goals are gathered in intelligence on active missing and murder cases, reviewing and prioritizing cases for assignment to investigative teams, developing investigative plans to guide investigators. How about you develop a fucking plan to change all the fucking laws that makes it to jurisdictional nightmare or go fuck yourself, right? This is just much more bullshit, much more bullshit. Tribes, you know, they need another committee making recommendations, more data collection like they need to fucking extra holes in their heads. May 4th, 2021, the White House issues a proclamation declaring each May 5th as a national day of awareness. We're missing a murdered native women and girls, still doesn't change the laws, go suck a bag of dicks. I would read President Joe Biden's announcement but it's fucking boring and doesn't provide solutions for jack shit. A lot of talk of
Starting point is 02:01:40 being fully committed and making recommendations. I call on all Americans to support fucking yada yada. The case behind this proclamation, another sad tragedy, July 4, 2013, 21 year old Hannah Harris went to celebrate the upcoming holiday with her friends in lame deer Montana, little down of about 2000 people over 93% of the native on the northern shayan reservation. Hannah, a mother to a 10 year old boy, sorry, 10 month old boy, excuse me, a member of the Northern Cheyenne tribe. She was with two people in July 3rd, Garrett Sidney Wada and Eugenia and Roland. On July 4th, surveillance footage captured Hannah getting into their car, surveillance footage show,
Starting point is 02:02:21 her car, excuse me, surveillance footage showed Roland getting into the front passenger seat, Wada's in the back seat? Hannah didn't come home the next day, her family reported her missing. They didn't feel like the police took the report seriously because they didn't, so they had to start searching themselves. Watt and Roland were interviewed, had very inconsistent stories. Still were free to leave and stay with relatives in Wyoming. Hannah's car then found a band in with a flat tire on a dead end road, her body found in
Starting point is 02:02:44 July 8th, four days after doing missing an A ditch near the lame deer rodeo grounds. She been raped and badly beaten her family suspected the man and woman Garrett and Eugenia seen with her on his way unsuraited unsuraited footage, you know, is being involved in her death over seven months later Why did I take this long March 26 2014 Wata and Roland finally arrested and connected with Hannah's death Wata charged with first degree murder, aggravated sexual abuse, Roland charged with second degree murder. Truth finally comes out. Roland and Wata were drinking with Hannah on July 3rd to the fourth. They got into an altercation. According to Roland,
Starting point is 02:03:16 she and Wata both beat Hannah to death. Roland's sister in law spoke with police, said that Roland told her about their murder in January of 2014. Said that after they were drinking in an abandoned trailer, she lost consciousness. She was woken up by yelling and screaming. She found water raping Hannah in another room. Said she tried to help Hannah, but then Hannah hit her and that made her angry. So as any good rational person does, she joins the rapist and beating the woman who just been raped. What a piece of shit.
Starting point is 02:03:41 Two of them beat Hannah to death, wrapped her in a sheet, dragged her outside, then water moves her body to the ditch It would be founded. Authorities learned that water, barter relatives car, returning with a strong odor, Hannah's DNA found in the car. October 31, 2014, Eugenia Roland and Garrett water pleaded guilty to the charges against them. Eugenia pleaded guilty to a second degree murder charge. Garrett water pleaded guilty to be in an accessory after the fact. He was charged with murder and aggravated sexual abuse, but those charges were dropped when he agreed to testify against Roland. On February 12, 2015, Eugenie and Roland sentenced to 22 years in federal prison. June 4, 2015, Garrett Wada, the rapist and murderer sentenced to 10 years in prison.
Starting point is 02:04:20 Fuck is happening there. And for Hannah's murder, the National Indigenous Women's Resource Center based in lame, dear Montana, started working with her family and the local congressional delegation to raise awareness of this crisis. March 15, 2022, this year now, President Biden, signed into law, the Violence Against Women Act reauthorization, Act of 2022. And it recognizes, you know, a special tribal criminal jurisdiction over an expanded list of crimes, assault of tribal justice personnel, child violence, obstruction of justice, you know, a special tribal criminal jurisdiction over an expanded list of crimes, assault of tribal justice personnel, child violence, obstruction of justice, sexual violence, sexual trafficking, stalking, but doesn't allow them to punish any more than they were being
Starting point is 02:04:52 punished earlier. Oh, boy, do tribal law enforcement agencies have more funding than they did before this law? No, not explicitly. What are we fucking doing here? The Vawatt 2022 provisions went into effect October 1st. So just a few weeks ago, and they want to do a fucking thing. They're gonna do nothing.
Starting point is 02:05:11 We have to do more than study this problem. It's been around for far too long already. Enough studying is finally time to act. Good job, soldier. You've made it back. Barely. job soldier you've made it back barely. How frustrating, what a confusing mess, right? That just no one is fixing.
Starting point is 02:05:34 Before I share how I think we should act in a way that would actually be helpful, a special sponsor that I don't like. I fucking hate this sponsor, but they pay a lot. So, you know, fuck them, but whatever, you know, I gotta have money to keep this all going. So, here we go. Time suckers brought you again today by Bear Evil Incorporated. Bear recently acquired meta-platforms in corporate aka Facebook. Why? To make money of course, but also, to shut down every fucking private cult of the curious Facebook group you ever try and create. We own Whipple, we own Woody, we'll shred him if we have to, we'll put him in the chipper,
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Starting point is 02:07:07 Oh god, no! No! Oh shit! Just when I thought Bare couldn't shock me anymore, of course my dad! God damn it! He founded BareEvil Incorporated! He's behind this movement. Ah, sorry.
Starting point is 02:07:24 I'm trying to let my dad distract me from finishing this very important episode. That's what he wants That's why I fucking bought that ad God damn it Okay, seriously done being a weird child who lives most inside his own head now for his own amusement for a second How do we solve this crisis? How do we reduce the terrible stats went over in the first half this episode? Well, we can't erase history, but we can change things going forward. The amount of natives living on native land where most of these crimes against women do
Starting point is 02:07:50 take place, I do not believe the numbers are growing. There's other issues to this, but to folks on the main part of this issue, despite a massive sense of census jump in the native population from 2010 to 2020, in 2020, the number of people who identified as Native American or Alaska Native alone and in combination with another race was 9.7 million. Way up from 5.2 million in 2010, the most experts are not buying this as being indicative of tribes rebuilding their numbers. It seems that on census forms, more and more people are just picking AI or AN because they
Starting point is 02:08:21 feel like they most identify with the tribes, even though they're're 23 and me or answer to dot com reports would say differently or there of indigenous heritage, but from other places in the world like Guatemala not kidding. When a woman named when calm filled out her census form just in this this last census 2020 she checked the box for Native American and the box for Latino the 27 year old from a small village in the western highlands of Guatemala, where most residents are indigenous. Camelies and Oakland said, well, we're not white, we're not black,
Starting point is 02:08:50 this is a close I can get. 30% of people identifying as indigenous also identify as Latino. So why does this matter? Why am I bringing that up? Because in order to be part of a tribe, an eligible for federal assistance, and in order to live in a reservation,
Starting point is 02:09:01 be subject to tribal laws, you have to be a tribe member. Most tribes require, you be at least, 25% native. Each and band of Cherokee only require a minimum of one-sixteenth degree of Cherokee Indian blood for tribal enrollment. And I think because of more and more tribal members leaving reservations and marrying and having kids with non-tribal members, it's going to get harder and harder for more people to qualify, which means that while people picking AI or AI identifying on a census form might increase, people actually enrolled as tribe members will very likely
Starting point is 02:09:29 decrease, which will then make it harder than ever for tribes to argue for more federal funding on tribal lands or to get political power or to get extra state assistance. Decreasing tribal enrollment will make it harder and harder for law enforcement to get funding necessary to provide safety for remaining tribal women. And even the numbers we're going up, the current mess of jurisdiction, will be just as fucked up as it's ever been. Until the laws are drastically changed, not these little bullshit, you know how we're going to look into some stats acts. We're going to like, you know, have a coordinator appointed go fuck yourself the maze of who is supposed to try and arrest who will keep slowing down and preventing the level of law enforcement response and investigation on tribe members in the u.s. receive right it's just it's if it continues to exist common sense will tell you that the rate of murder to miss and
Starting point is 02:10:17 do women will not ever change substantially why fucking would it as long as enough sick fucks know they can have much better odds of hunting native women and getting away with it than other groups women, they're not going to stop. And Canada only 53% of indigenous women's homicides have been solved drastically less than Canada's national solve rate of 84%. I provide US stats, but I'm not sure they exist due to the shitty record keeping that we went over. I would bet my fucking life the solved murder rate is less in the US than it is in Canada. So these perpetrators keep going unpunished. As sad as it is to say, I just don't think the tribes currently have enough of a population base on reservations to ever be able to effectively govern themselves and keep their people, women,
Starting point is 02:10:57 especially, safe anymore when it comes to law enforcement. The time has passed for that colonialism and the racial racist prejudices and unjust laws that came with it have stripped the tribes of their ability to do that for themselves. The largest reservation by population in the US, by far, is a Navajo nation I mentioned earlier spread across Arizona, New Mexico, Utah over 170,000 people. They have enough people to maybe set up a proper system of effective law enforcement if, again, the laws are changed to allow them to do so and have courts and prisons. Right? You know, put people in prison
Starting point is 02:11:30 for life, actually protect their people. Maybe 170,000 people is a small city. And then 170,000 are spread out across as I said earlier, an area bigger than New Hampshire and Vermont combined. Wyoming has the smallest population of any state, over 580,000 people, over three times as many as an avahodination, and they have federal help in governing. Next to the Navajo Nation, Pine Ridge Reservation, straddling the border of South Dakota, Nevada, only 17,000 people, the fifth most popular reservation less than 10,000 people, the Crow Indian Reservation, I've talked about earlier, around 7,000 people. These tribes that were supposed to function as sovereign nation within a sovereign nation,
Starting point is 02:12:10 but never were really allowed to. Well, now if you take out emotion and look at things coldly and logically, it is painfully obvious. I think that it's far too late to now allow them to be sovereign in a law enforcement way. And that's so fucking sad. It's so sad that realistically tribal nations as actual areas, there are somewhat sovereign, have been too wounded, too damaged, too assimilated, too terminated, too relocated and subjugated, to ever return to any state of function as an actual sovereign nation within a sovereign nation,
Starting point is 02:12:38 capable of effectively building and managing a legal infrastructure robust enough to care for the safety of their people. I fucked up to destroy people so thoroughly that through dishonest treaties, wars forced to assimilation and relocations, cultural destruction, etc. And all that after introducing disease of the wiped out over 90% of them, all that after destroying, you know, a game like the Buffalo that so many tribes depended on, culturally and for substance. All that after eradicating the possibility of living with their lands and not off of the lands
Starting point is 02:13:09 and then letting their cultures wither on the vine for decades or centuries in some cases scattered on reservations where they're kind of not really ever allowed to govern themselves. And then now to be like, oh, here's the keys to what's left of your kingdom. I know you had a majestic kingdom. Now you have like the equivalent of like a fucking dilapidated RVs. What a shameful thing America has done. And again, we can't change the past. We can acknowledge it I know you had a majestic kingdom. Now you have like the equivalent of like a fucking dilapidated RVs. What a shameful thing America has done. And again, we can't change the past. We can't acknowledge it and improve the future.
Starting point is 02:13:30 There is not enough of the tribes to left to fully expect them to run their own law enforcement system, complete with judges, court houses, prisons, et cetera. It's time to break some more trees, but now for something good to protect native peoples, to protect native women from adding to the ranks of the missing and the murder. It's time to fund proper law enforcement agencies with state and federal money on tribal lands, fund them with enough money to actually protect and serve those communities. State of the art precincts, new squad cars, right?
Starting point is 02:13:59 Officers, law, the latest gadgets and gear, same training that you know, non reservation us folks benefit from. And do that in a way that respects the tribes, the chief of tribal police, you know, make them have to be appointed by tribal leaders to maintain a level of tribal oversight, just like chiefs of police are often appointed by the mayor or city councils, right? And do more along those lines, allow tribal leaders to oversee a police force that has actual force that can arrest whoever the fuck it needs to arrest, that can pursue criminals for any crimes and quickly making moves in those first 48 to 72 crucial hours. But don't continue on this bullshit path,
Starting point is 02:14:32 a kind of letting tribes have law enforcement, but not really like their playing fucking house, a path of never really infringing on their sovereignty, while also shitting on their sovereignty completely and constantly, this weird ongoing gray area, who is it helping? Who's happy with it as it stands now? Tribe should have been viewed as equals from the beginning, but they weren't, but we can all be equal now and all receive an equal degree of law enforcement and protection.
Starting point is 02:14:57 If anyone has a better idea on how to truly help the MMIW movement in a practical meaningful way and not just fucking establish more committees for fucking data collection, I would love to hear it. Send it an update to both jangles at timesockpodcast.com. Let's recap and hit those takeaways now. In 1492, Christopher Columbus and his crew arrived on what they called the island of his manual and they were fucking dicks. They met the tyano people, but then sadly they soon murdered rape and enslaved Christopher Columbus while heralded as the discover of the new world. And it was also an original contributor to the mmiw crisis evidence to show that he knew about maybe even
Starting point is 02:15:34 participated in the trafficking of indigenous women and girls. There were thousands of others like him in the early years, much, many worse, many much worse. Excuse me, the colonized, the first land in the US and Canada were met with seemingly infinite land and natural resources. Resources were going to be shared in many cases by people who had already lived there for thousands of years. Unlike what they were used to, many women were in charge of these resources, European Christians, appalled by indigenous culture and societal structure.
Starting point is 02:15:59 Native American women became their primary targets of a lot of discussion hatred. As many researchers have noted, the conquest of land reflected in violence towards women, conquest of them as well. European settlers given carte blanche, initially by the Vatican, to take everything, take the land and resources, take the women, right, viewed as some of those resources. Early colonizers characterized indigenous women as extremely sexual and violent, right? Hello psychological projection. The colonizers were extremely sexual and violent. Right? Hello, psychological projection. The colonizers were extremely sexual and violent.
Starting point is 02:16:28 When the British and French arrived to the US and Canada in later years, they already had the stereotype in their minds when they interacted with native peoples. At first, the settlers treated the tribes as their own sovereign nations with full authority over their affairs. But after the formation of the US, when the government was eager to expand their territory, they quickly enacted laws that gave them authority over tribal land. And you know, reservations became sovereign only in theory. In the 1800s, various Supreme Court decisions and new laws made tribal land the property
Starting point is 02:16:52 of the US government gave them governmental jurisdiction over certain crime areas, but not all what the fuck. Instead of Native Americans being able to punish people who committed crimes on their land, the government was responsible for prosecution and convictions, and many cases, violence against inditions, people went unpunished. A confusing maze of who had jurisdiction, you know, over what tribal lands ensued, who was being properly funded. No one. More and more laws transferred in jurisdiction to the states and federal government and away from tribes passed in the 20th century that didn't help anything. Passed in the 21st century, it's still not fucking helping anything. Violence towards tribe members, especially on tribal lands,
Starting point is 02:17:25 continues to go largely unpunished. Various laws combined with racism and prejudice towards indigenous people has led directly to the MMIW crisis. Crimes against indigenous women go under reported, under prosecuted. Leading many offenders to feel confident, they can kidnap, rape, murder, and indigenous women with impunity. New laws like the Non-Invisible Act, Savannah's Act, the Violence Against Women Act, and made efforts to fill in data gaps to maybe try and fix jurisdictional issues they haven't. To try and restore prosecutorial jurisdiction
Starting point is 02:17:55 of the tribes, haven't, nothing substantial has been actually changed. And this current jurisdictional maze, you know, until it's straightened out out the MMIW crisis will just inevitably continue. Time now for our top five takeaways. Time, suck, top five takeaways. Number one, the MMIW crisis began centuries ago during the age of exploration. European monarchs sent ships full of people to the new world to explore the land fine gold and other valuable resources and see who is living in unexplored territory. It's led to high rates of physical and sexual violence almost immediately.
Starting point is 02:18:30 Mentored land and resources from indigenous people, in many cases raped and forced women and girls into sexual slavery. The documented examples of this horrific violence that we do have most likely barely scratch the surface of the pain and suffering indigenous people likely went through with the hands of these early colonizers. Number two, when the early colonists first interact with indigenous people, they treated them as sovereign nations who had full authority over their land and legal systems. As centuries have passed, the government has enacted laws to shift jurisdiction to the federal government and state governments.
Starting point is 02:18:59 Tribal courts often can't prosecute those who harm indigenous people on tribal land, and if they do, they are limited in their sentencing abilities. So, severely, because of jurisdictional confusion when investigating MMIW cases, it makes it easier for victims to violent crimes to slip to the cracks. State and local law enforcement don't always keep track of their MMIW data. Or they misclassify victims. This is contributed to the crisis and may make perpetrators target indigenous people because they think they can get away with it.
Starting point is 02:19:24 Number three, the majority of indigenous people in the US do not actually live on reservations. They are called urban Indians and they live off tribal lands and in US cities. US cities, although they make the majority of the indigenous population in the US, they're often not the focus of federal legislation, funding, and other resources. Number four, indigenous women living on reservations are murdered at a rate 10 times greater than women of other ethnicities, 10 times, murder the third leaving cause of death for Indigenous women. Number five, new info, the symbol of the MMIW movement is a red handprint.
Starting point is 02:19:57 Many people wear red clothing or paint a red handprint over their mouths to show support for the MMIW movement. Editorial staff of nativehope.org wrote, a red hand over the mouth has become the symbol of a growing movement, the MMIW movement. It stands for all the missing sisters whose voices are not heard. It stands for the silence of the media and law enforcement
Starting point is 02:20:16 and the midst of this crisis. It stands for the oppression and subjugation of native women who are now rising up to say, hashtag no more stolen sisters. Time, suck, top five takeaways. Blood on the reservation missing and murdered indigenous women has been sucked. Damn, I learned so much. Last shocking information about so many people who live so near to me and who have lived near to me for most of my life.
Starting point is 02:20:45 Even studying tangential topics in the past, like the trailer tears, trailer tears, so many native wounds I didn't know about. Man, what a shameful history, what a current fucking mess. Hope some new path can be forward to going forward. Let's pass that the law enforcement confusion that the tribes now live under is just such nonsense. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:07 Uh, thank you. As always, everyone involved starting with the Queen of Bad Magic, Lindsey Cummins, doing so much. Let me do this research on topics like these and again, happy birthday to the beautiful birthday girl. She turned, uh, she turned 21, she's 21 years old. Uh, thanks Logan Keith, uh, the art warlock for directing and producing today, even though he has had a morning sickness, I think it might be pregnant. Nobody has been
Starting point is 02:21:30 dealing with stuff in the mornings. Hopefully he's going to figure it out soon. He's been coming in here and pushing through. And thanks to the suck ranger, Tyler C, help with production, cut and clips from the episodes for socials, thanks to the bit of lecture team for upkeep on the time. So app the art warlock again for creating merch, bad magic merch.com. Remember that triple M? Never forget that teacher pitch. lecture team for upkeep on the time. So app the art warlock again for creating Merchabadmagicmerch.com. Remember that triple M? Never forget that teacher pitch. I could have chosen different Christmas songs.
Starting point is 02:21:52 Holy night, holy school, holy night. Yeah, creating a Merchabadmagicmerch.com for helping run our socials along with our suck ranger, tie their C and team managed by our socials along with our suck ranger Tyler C and a team managed by our Social media strategies for our enhandles men. Thanks producer Olivia Lee for the initial research this week. She fucking killed it I had a Pulled from a lot of other places other than those main sources for stats. Thanks to the all-seeing eyes who moderate the cult of curious private Cultivators to private Facebook page or did before it went into Tiago purgatory
Starting point is 02:22:25 And again if Tiago doesn't let us return from the dead soon, we'll move on to the Cultivator's three. Already in the works and again, so many other places to go to. Thanks to the Mod Squad making discord. So many people there having fun. Thanks everyone at the time, sucks, subreddit, bad magic subreddit, another place to go. Reddit never shutting down. Discord never shut down. Good time to head over there. Or you can just do again some keyword searches within Facebook for a variety of private groups. I know a lot of people like the Facebook structure the best, you know, start with Colt the curious, maybe just put time suck, put in Luciferina or Bojangles, so many groups you can find.
Starting point is 02:22:59 Next week in honor, this month's featuring veterans day, we tackle one of our biggest topics to date, World War II. Though we've certainly explored the conflict in several episodes, most recently are two part series on the Holocaust. This time, we're sucking the conflict in its entirety from the battlefields of Europe to the bitter fight for the Pacific Islands. Hard to overstate how massive this conflict was. Between 1939 and 1945, more than 50 nations in the world were fighting with more than 100 million soldiers deployed. By the end of fighting with more than a hundred million soldiers deployed by the end of the war and estimated 50 million would be dead including 18 million Russians and 20% of Poland's former population. Fuck. Around the world people had to confront the ugly truth that their
Starting point is 02:23:36 beloved children would not be coming home that their families had fallen victim to horrific bombing campaigns that the war had changed the shapes of their lives forever. So many pays the ultimate price for freedom. But a necessary price, very necessary. When you look at who the allies were up against and what kind of world they would have shaped had the access powers triumphed on the one hand. You had Hitler, the subject of many sucks and his plan to take over Europe for Aryan living space, his program of racial purity and hatred of others, particularly Jewish people would lead the Nazis to conquer European nations, one by one, and establish the infamous and horrific death camps we covered in our
Starting point is 02:24:07 Holocaust sucks. While European leaders thought that Hitler might be appeased or compromised with, this quickly proved out not to be true. As the Nazis conquered Denmark, Norway, the low country, Belgium and quick succession, it was the fall of France to the Nazis that would galvanize the British to act, fear and invasion and led by the indomitable Winston Churchill, the British would begin to repel the Nazis during the battle of Britain. And all the democracy seemed to hang in the balance. Meanwhile, the allies would find themselves running up against another formidable opponent across the world in
Starting point is 02:24:34 imperial Japan. In the early 20th century, Japan said its sights on becoming an empire. All this military expanded Japan's land holdings. The culture became increasingly militaristic, pride in itself on unity, sacrifice for the nation, obedience. To become a true empire, however, they'd have to have access to resource rich areas in the Pacific, especially oil. Galvanized by anti-Western sentiment
Starting point is 02:24:55 and a strong sense of cultural superiority, Japan would develop a plan to become the rulers of the Pacific. The masters of a pan-Asian empire that was actually about Japanese supremacy, much like Hitler's Nazis, the Japanese military would prove to be brutal opponents and the shocking bombing of Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941 would bring the US into a two front war that seemed unimaginable just a few years earlier. Next week we'll begin our coverage of World War II with the war in Europe, then move
Starting point is 02:25:22 to the Pacific, the following week for an equally bloody second part. Along the way, we'll meet people both inspiring and terrifying leaders that commanded their country for better for worse and the many individuals who fought for a better world because the other option was to live in a world ruled by savage oppression and tyranny much worse than the acts that we have committed. Now let's head on over to this week's Time Sucker updates. Updates, get your time, sucker updates. Thought provoking sack Caleb, not real name. Has some thoughts provoked for us.
Starting point is 02:26:02 He writes, uh, dear Suck nasty, the third Esquire. I want to first start by saying I had a wonderful time seeing you live recently where you played for a second time on my mesiphonia. And thank you for involving me in your show and signing my three out of five stars. Sign again. I want to go ahead and get to the meat and potatoes of this email. This is about the Cannibal Cop episode. Little background about me first. For starters, I am a cop. I have been for nearly 10 years. And before anyone makes any rash judgments, this email is not about whether cops are good or bad or anything like that. I'm not defending the cannibal cop. I merely want to speculate on the underlying theme of the topic. Is it okay to fantasize about a crime? The truth of the matter is I don't know. And there's no simple answer to that question. In fact, this entire topic is very gray and there's no one right answer. On the one hand,
Starting point is 02:26:40 yes, we need to stop these maniacs as soon as we can. On the other hand, what crime was committed? Other than stalking and misuse of a criminal database for that crime, you should absolutely be prosecuted for those infractions. Can't do that. That's gross misuse of a trusted private database. I understand this will not be a popular opinion, but I'm playing devil's advocate here. I have a hard time convicting him of anything else. Now, let me be clear.
Starting point is 02:27:00 This is not to say I don't think he's a huge piece of trash. He doesn't deserve to be skinned alive because evidence points to that. But the evidence is just circumstantial. And we have to put aside our own personal beliefs and look at the facts of the case, not just this case, because my fear is a case like this will make a landmark decision and then become commonplace. If someone has a social media page, it condemns any religion should it be taken down. Is there a religion that is okay to condemn? What if it's a race, a nationality, a political alignment? Where does freedom of speech end and bigotry begin? I do not know I do not pretend to know and what leads me to my next point
Starting point is 02:27:32 What is free speech or in that leads me? Are we truly allowed to say what we want? What if someone wants to say what they want to execute this politician or that one? Is it never okay or is it if it only aligns with your preferences? Sadly, I think the latter has become true in this world. We seem to have become fuck you and your opposing beliefs, no matter what the belief is. This is the part where you all hate me.
Starting point is 02:27:51 Is being a racist, bigoted, closed-minded, religious, not okay? No, of course not. But is that your right to be one? Is the freedom of speech also the freedom to be wrong? There are obviously limits to what can be said or done, but where are those limits? We say, well, it's hate speech, but what is hate speech?
Starting point is 02:28:07 How many times have the Colt the Curious Facebook pages been suspended because it didn't agree with seemingly one guy's opinions? Where is the line? You spoke of George Carlin a few weeks ago, and I went back and listened to one of his interviews. He was right. We have the illusion of choice. Where does it end? When is it enough?
Starting point is 02:28:24 I do not have these answers. I only want to bring this up to provoke thought and discussion. Stay fresh, Meat sack. Always question the status quo. I love you and wish nothing but the best for you and your family. PSV, read this on air. Keep me anonymous. Stay with me.
Starting point is 02:28:35 K-Lib or some bullshit. Live long and suck on. K-Lib. Well, fake Caleb, I love your message. There's so much. There's a lot to address. I want to build a dress at all. I am in your camp. It's a camp that does pick some people off.
Starting point is 02:28:46 I definitely lean towards the most free speech we can possibly have, asterisk, I'll explain that. I absolutely think you should be able to say whatever you want to say as long as what you're saying does not lead to substantial harm for someone else. Like if you're saying, I don't think the Pope knows fuck all about what God wants for anyone on earth, or I think the Pope's a fucking con man. Fine inflammatory to many, but fine. You're right to express that opinion.
Starting point is 02:29:09 That's what free speech is about, I think to me. But if you're posting online about how the pope needs to die and not a vague sense, we got to kill the pope. We must kill the pope. We got to shoot the pope and the Vatican on such and such a date. I have the gun ready. Please meet me at this place in the Vatican. You go back and forth with others who talk about how they want to kill the Pope,
Starting point is 02:29:28 you formulate a fucking plan to kill the Pope, right? Or somebody reads your posts, then kills the Pope. Well, now your words have led directly to harm. Or also you you build up you know, a case to kill the Pope, but based on a bunch of self, the Pope hasn't definitely been proven to have done. Well, that is like a defamation now, right? And there should be some accountability. In the example of the Pope, can you kill there should be some criminal punishment? You no longer merely expressing thoughts,
Starting point is 02:29:58 you're calling for a crime to be committed. And I think that was the whole dilemma with the Cranable Cop, right? That we talked about, should Gil Valley have been able to fantasize with others about eating women? Yes, and he was a lot in the end by the court. He did fantasize about eating women, raping women, kidnapping killing women.
Starting point is 02:30:13 I think he should be able to fantasize about all of that and any other thing. But when he added photos of real women, he surveilled in real life when he was looking up women's addresses, that's when he went into this legal gray area and why he was found guilty by the first jury, right? It starts to look less like a fantasy, more like a plan, uh, a plan to commit a crime, right? Had he shared any of the addresses with his dark net cohorts, I think he should be imprisoned
Starting point is 02:30:38 right now for the rest of his life, charged with conspiracy kidnapping at the very least. You know, do I think the cold and curious private Facebook page should have been shut down. No one, you know, there was no fucking criminal plans being put there. No, I don't think it should have been. I do understand why Facebook did it. It's not the government. It's a private enterprise. You know, they don't have enough humans to keep track of what people are posting.
Starting point is 02:30:57 You don't have enough time to listen to hours and hours of podcasts. You understand the sarcastic and absurdist nature of it. Their AI botched us to see horrible shipping said and they're not in on the jokes, and they have to think about the total number of customers, which is really what their members are, and play to the masses to successfully run their business. I do get it. I don't like it, but I get it. With Carl in that quote, I think Carlton was wrong about the illusion of choice.
Starting point is 02:31:18 I think we have unlimited choices virtually around us. They just happen to have consequences. I don't think choice is the illusion. I think freedom is. We do not have true freedom. We never have, and I hope we never do, with what I know about human nature. When punishment is taken off the table, like when the colonists are given carte blanche do as they wish with indigenous people, well, a lot of evil shit happens.
Starting point is 02:31:41 I don't want true freedom. It's just, you know, the trick of, you know, society is how to manage freedom with safety. Yeah, I think you Caleb, but it was a lot to think about. And yes, as always, question the status quo. Hill Nimrod and regarding law enforcement, thanks for doing what you do. Now, before I try to just off stop my head, go another two hours of an episode thinking about
Starting point is 02:32:04 other things. Caleb just wrote out, I want to share a crazy connection to an old suck episode 103, the public suicide of Bud Dwyer and the tragic events that led up to it. It comes in from butterfly affected sack, David Anderson, who wrote, your master sucker, oh, salt to the suck, sage of suction, sovereign of suckitude, magistrate of mush, moultry, purveyor of perplexing pronuncientiation and Seeker of Nimron, to Wisdom, well done. My name is David and I was introduced to Suck several months ago
Starting point is 02:32:28 by a good friend I met on Reddit, also named David, aka, Bitey's Dad. I was a B-I-T-E-Y-S. I was immediately hooked upon listing to the first episode he recommended, 156, decided to start at the beginning of the catalog, work my way forward. I really listened to the R-Bud Dwyer Suck and was absolutely enthralled.
Starting point is 02:32:45 It was incredibly informative. And the story has a direct tie to my family. In a bonus, in bonus episode 26, the time sucker update regarding the R-bud Dwyer Suck, I was completely a cut off guard to hear an update from none other than one of my youth leaders at the church I tend to growing up. In his update, he referred to a friend and mentor who was dating Dee Dee at the time of blood suicide. That friend and mentor is my father.
Starting point is 02:33:07 I don't know for how long they were dating or how serious things were, but I know that the events of Bud's death was a catalyst for she and my father's relationship ending. And as that relationship hadn't have ended, Bud hadn't had taken his own life. My father almost certainly would have never have met my mother. And I would almost certainly not exist. To reiterate some info from the previous update, my father maintains to this day that he believes Bud was entirely innocent, on top of that, his sacrifice contributed directly or indirectly to my own life. I thought this was worth mentioning. If for nothing else, just illustrate how our actions
Starting point is 02:33:37 can ripple through time and space. I do not in any way condone suicide, but I cannot help it see Mr. Dwyer suicide as a completely unique case of ultimate sacrifice for his family. Thank you for continually feeding my desire to learn and for taking the time to read this. Much love from the state of PA, sincerely not apologizing for the long message you're ever loyal, suck puppets, David Anderson.
Starting point is 02:33:57 I love how you added a pronunciation guide for David Anderson. That's very funny. David, what a wild message, man. Crazy, you would not be here. You would never have written that message about. Crazy. You would not be here. You would never have written that message about that episode. Never listened to it. Had the tragic event not occurred, the event that drew me to that topic, your dad would have not met your mom.
Starting point is 02:34:14 It is mind blowing when you think about all the choices that have led to the current collective reality we all share. Right? A mistop light here, a mist flight there, not going to the doctor and getting something diagnosed and detected in time here, losing a coin toss, you won. And now you end up doing A instead of doing B, some tiny choice can affect an entire family tree, just forever from that point forward. Other tiny choices can affect the entire fate of humanity, right? Some despot, you know,
Starting point is 02:34:46 narrowly avoiding stepping into traffic, but if they would have stepped into traffic, the world would look so different for us all. It's fucking really crazy, David. Thanks for sending that message in. More stuff to think about. Now let me share a message of crushed nuts from higher pitched sucker Matt, who writes,
Starting point is 02:35:02 oh dear, suck, master. There's gonna be a short one, but I had to let you know I was listening to the recent crypts and bloods episode happily laughing away at your tire and glue diatribe about how far you were taking that. I was also chucking to myself one if anyone has fallen for this and pride of myself on having never been got. Then as you're about to explain how crack made it to South Central you start your bare pharmaceutical ad and the roar literally made me jump like three fucking feet,
Starting point is 02:35:25 lock in the seatbelt, put a hurtin' on my neathers. I can only thank God my wife was in the car, I would never hear the end of it. Thanks for a bigger scare than anything you could bring on scared to death. You're bad, my head's in the front, just mad. I wonder how many people that bare butt and gets mad, just coming out of nowhere sometimes. I hope your balls are okay. Thanks for saying that mess here. It was funny to think about.
Starting point is 02:35:46 And finally, it's in on something else, uh, light. From a top shelf sack, riddled with venereal disease now. Paul Obano, who writes, I bid the suck master Dan of house commons. Noice. The first of his name, leader of the space lizards, and the meat sacks and the time suckers,
Starting point is 02:36:02 Lord of the podcast and protector of all things on a Nimrod. Good morrow. All right, and now for the Pleasantries Cummins, you Mushmouth Maniac. You Cummins, Laudmite, again, but in the most beautiful and unpredictable way. On my driving to work, I was listening
Starting point is 02:36:13 to the Bloody Harps episode. You're a long, you're a long-gated description of what the Bloody Harps look like made me curious. So when I got to my office, I decided to do a Google image, search on my phone. As I hit enter, my coworker walked in to speak with me, so I set my phone down on my desk, visible for everyone to see.
Starting point is 02:36:28 I think ladies love cool James, describe the theory of relativity best in the Academy Award winning. I assume I didn't research it. Roll of Sherman preacher Dudley, the 1999 smash hit movie Deep Lucie, when he said, Einstein's theory of relativity.
Starting point is 02:36:41 Grab hold of a hot pan. Second can seem, seconds can seem like an hour. Put your hands on a hot woman, an hour can seem like a second. It's all relative. That's a very funny quote. Well, I tell you that the few brief seconds that transpired between my coworker
Starting point is 02:36:55 and myself felt like an eternity. I mean it. I saw his eyes shift innocently down to my desk while he was talking. Notice the brief confusion wash away into shock and then ultimately disg discussed and dismay. His eyes then snap back to mind, where he is now clearly feeling different.
Starting point is 02:37:11 There was a complete tonal shift. He got fidgety and nervous and quickly made his exit. I was a bit confused. I reached over and picked up my phone. And that was what I noticed that my Google image search had been auto corrected to bloody herpes.
Starting point is 02:37:28 Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Oh my God, what images of horror. Oh, that's so fucking funny. Love your show. You do what you do. The other five stars wouldn't change a thing. Paul, Albana, Paul, man, Paul, good luck stars. Wouldn't change a thing. Paul Albano.
Starting point is 02:37:45 Paul, man, Paul, good luck with those bloody herpes, man. Once you get really bloody, you've really hit the final stages. No, you can probably, you can probably fucking lotion it up. I don't know. Good luck. No, I know he don't really have it, but good luck explaining to that coworker. Good luck sharing a soda can. With that coworker going forward.
Starting point is 02:38:01 Thanks, everybody, for the messages. Thanks, time suckers. I need a net. We all did. Another bad magic production podcast is complete. Please don't fuck with any Indigenous women in any way this week. How about just swinging through some tribal lands, maybe buying some ship from their businesses like a normal person. Be cool, everyone you see, like you're supposed to be to everybody.
Starting point is 02:38:25 Maybe donate to one of the many tribal causes this week if you want to be extra nice. And when it comes to the ongoing crisis of MMIW, help solve it by continuing, if nothing else, to keep on sucking. Oh Dessons through the snow on a one-horse open sleigh All the fears they go They're back in the rain They're about to rain And when I'm still awake The whole world is laughing
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