Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 381 - The Cult of the Twin Flames Universe

Episode Date: January 1, 2024

Whether or not you've seen the recent Amazon and/or Netflix docuseries on Twin Flames Universe, I think you're gonna love this one. Another cult episode, but with a few major twists. This cult was bor...n and still lives primarily online. And rather than selling salvation, it's focused on selling you romance. Jeffrey and Shaleia Divine are true grifters, playing with the lives of their followers in strange and dangerous ways. Also - Happy New Year! Let's tear it up in 2024!  Watch the Suck on YouTube: https://youtu.be/dPmEWnMGRw8Merch: https://www.badmagicmerch.comTimesuck Discord! https://discord.gg/tqzH89vWant to join the Cult of the Curious Private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" to locate whatever happens to be our most current page :)For all merch-related questions/problems: store@badmagicproductions.com (copy and paste)Please rate and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcastWanna become a Space Lizard? Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcast.Sign up through Patreon, and for $5 a month, you get access to the entire Secret Suck catalog (295 episodes) PLUS the entire catalog of Timesuck, AD FREE. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. And you get the download link for my secret standup album, Feel the Heat. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Twin Flames universe. You've probably heard of it. This is beginning a lot of us. These past couple months after a three-part docu-series titled Desperately Seeking a Soulmate, Escaping Twin Flames universe, debuted on Amazon Prime on October 6th, and Another three-part docu-series titled Escaping Twin Flames debuted on Netflix in November. But if you haven't heard of it, what is it? It's a spiritual organization kind of. It's also a trauma treatment center, or at least claims to be, with this universe, there is a meal planning service
Starting point is 00:00:33 and online mega church, a multi-level marketing schema, family vlog, YouTube channel, a school. By the time you hear this, maybe they'll be offering something else. Maybe they'll have built a big Michigan cult compound they've been talking about since March. And yes, this group is definitely a cult, no matter how much they deny that. It was founded by Jeff and Shalia Ion, aka Jeff and Shalia divine in 2017 under the
Starting point is 00:01:00 guys of helping others find their twin flames aka their ultimate lovers aka their soulmates kind of Oxplain others gibberish as best I can today Twin flames universe primarily consists of a big comprehensive website a youtube page a private Facebook group Private community classes on Google Hangouts held four times a week and one-on-one online coaching sessions Since it began it's initially already had, you know, it's initially already, excuse me, pretty confusing, core dogma has morphed
Starting point is 00:01:32 into a perplexing, twisted, serpentine cluster of ideologies that go far beyond just attracting your soulmate. Founded on fragments of Buddhism, Hinduism, New Age, Spiritualism, Christianity, and a whole mess of guru, word salad, utter nonsense bullshit Spiritualism, Christianity, and a whole mess, a guru, word salad, utter nonsense bullshit. Twin Flames Universe is a cult that financially exploits its openly vulnerable and lonely members, separates them from families, encourages them to transgress other people's boundaries,
Starting point is 00:01:57 and even randomly pressures select followers to transition to the opposite gender, even when they have zero interest in doing so. And they do all this so far, almost entirely online. Jeff and Shalia divine assert that their programs are based on scientific methods that guarantee success. And by scientific methods, they mean methods made up by two people, neither of whom have literally any scientific training whatsoever. Shalia was a hairdresser. Jeff studied human resource management in college, where maybe he took a biology class, and that would be the extent of his science education. Nevertheless, they have started by following them and doing exactly what they say, which you'll have to
Starting point is 00:02:38 pay a lot of money to hear, of course. You'll be led directly to your twin flame. But what happens when's after spending thousands of dollars on classes and dedicating countless hours to the programs, members still have not been given what they were promised when they still haven't found their twin flame? Well, they can go get fucked. It is not the fault of your holy righteous spiritual leaders that you still choose to let others height, wrist, skull, and dick mug your soul stasis away from you. Sorry, but it really isn't Jeff and Shaleigh's fault. Twin flames universe ideology seems to mostly be based on the concept that if anything isn't working out for you,
Starting point is 00:03:17 it is entirely your fault. Today we're going to investigate the intensely manipulative ways that Jeff and Shalea treat their followers. I mean customers, as well as digging to the cults. I mean spiritual groups, ideology, its structure, Jeff and Shalea's other entrepreneurial ventures and claims of abuse and coercion former members have recently leveled against them. All that out more on a scary new kind of cult, cult, cult, edition of Time Suck. This is Michael McDonald and you're listening to Time Suck. You're listening to Time Suck. Happy Monday and happy new year, Meat Sacks.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Welcome to 2024. And welcome to this installment of the cult of the curious. I'm Dan Cummins, the master's sucker, Harlan Sanders corner man, demonic zombie identifier, Kentucky Fried podcaster, and you are listening to Time Suck. Hail Nimrod, Helus Fina, praise be to good boy, bow jangles and glory be to triple M,
Starting point is 00:04:22 bless us with the best year of the suck first yet. If you are a Hawaii sucker, I will have what be very likely my only shows of the year at the blue note, Honolulu, January 27th, Saturday night two shows and then focusing only on podcasting for a while. Right now I am so focused. I've been so immersed in the Twin Flames universe. Today we're gonna use the foolproof, unassailable, flawless science of Jeff and Shalea divine and the Twin Flames universe to find each and every one of our listeners.
Starting point is 00:05:01 That Venmo me $5,000 right now, they're soulmate and ultimate lever. Look at you in cells. Don't you fucking bucket that price? You piece of shit. Are your dreams not worth that much? Is that not the deal of a lifetime for lifelong romantic and sexual fulfillment? You sub-melvin motherfuckers should be so grateful to me for introducing this wisdom to you. Soon after highlighting your sad self-defeating little online world. The Twin Flame universe, their teachings are your solution to the pesky Chad problem you didn't think you'd ever be able to rectify.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Look at for you, height, jawline, musculature, interpupillary distance, wrist and skull size, et cetera. None of that shit has any bearing on Twin Flame compatibility. The TFU is built to get you laid. You might not get a stacey. You can actually get partnered with a Melvin, even though you identify as a straight cisgender male, but in the TFU world, as you will find out, one whole is as good as another. Okay. Actually, I don't know if they say that, but that mentality is pretty close to what they truly preach. Obviously, I'm horse and around when it comes to my abilities to find your soulmate, I'm
Starting point is 00:06:08 no guru. It would be ridiculous for me to claim that if you paid me enough, I could just magically tell you the name of the love of your life. Somebody I haven't even met and also make them suddenly appear in your life. I mean, that's fucking crazy talk. We all know that, right? No, no, we don't sadly. Some people think other meat sacks do have magical not quite shooting fireballs, but close wizard-like powers. And I'm not talking about in-sell wizard powers. Pretty sure never fucking before the age of 30 has very little to do with being proficient magic.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Sorry, I'm having a hard time moving past all the in-sell terminology from a few weeks ago. We've been having a real good time with it here around the suckdown. So many great terms. You hot ass beckies. Some men prefer a becky to a stacey, by the way. More approachable, sexier in a girl next door kind of way. And I'm not even talking about high tier beckies. Even you load, load tier beckies.
Starting point is 00:06:58 You got something special going on. Hey, Lucifina. Uh, but for real, it would be crazy for me to actually think that I had some divine matchmaking powers. Also crazy for literally anyone else on earth to make that claim. As hopefully most of us know, from all the cults we've encountered here on TimeSuck and from just having some basic common sense,
Starting point is 00:07:17 anyone who offers you profound spiritual transcendence and complete perfection of your soul if you just do everything they say and of course pay them a bunch of money Well, that's a con artist except for the Pope of course and except for the president of the LBS church and except for the Dalai Lama and Except for other equivalent special access to God's will more holy and special than you know you religious authority figures Of course they are powerful wizards who for sure know much more about the mind of God than you
Starting point is 00:07:44 You arrogant ignorant fucking peasant You shut up and do what they tell you to do powerful wizards who for sure know much more about the mind of God than you, you arrogant, ignorant, fucking peasant. You shut up and do what they tell you to do. I tease. Kind of I tease. But even those figures don't claim to actually be God like so many cult leaders, including today's dear Jeffrey. Actually our second Jeffrey to claim that he's God after Skidmarks better half, much better half Jeffrey Lungren. But not even profit Jeffrey to my knowledge even claimed, you know, to know exactly which other meat sack everyone else was supposed to be conjoined with forever. I mean, profit Jeffrey did tell some followers who they were supposed to be married to sleep with and many other cult leaders, you know, have commanded followers in regards to, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:23 who they're to be wed with who they're supposed to have sex with. But I can't think of anyone else who does that out the gate, who leads with that other than Jeff divine. Or should I say Jesus? Because Jeff has recently claimed to be Jesus. Or rather has stated that Jesus claimed to be Jeff, it's a bit confusing. I'll cover it in the timeline. Jeff and also Shalia are not special, though, no matter what they claim. Not in some celestial sense. They are a bit special in the way that they formed what many sources believe to be the world's first,
Starting point is 00:08:54 almost fully online cult, a modern cult for modern times. No compound in the woods necessary anymore. You just need a private Facebook group, kind of like, kind of like what we have. Cult, cult, cult, cult. Uh oh, focusing for real now. Today we're talking about Twin Flames universe and its founders, Jeff and Shalea Devine,
Starting point is 00:09:16 will go over a bit about what a twin flame is supposed to be, how you can suppose to identify yours, how the organization actually functions and isolates its members from the rest of the world, what products, yes, products they offer, and finally, we'll meet some current and past members. Then we're gonna dive into a timeline of how the cult that is already the focus of one popular docuCears
Starting point is 00:09:36 on Netflix and another on Amazon Prime actually got started and follow it all the way up until today. So let us begin. So what the fuck exactly is a twin flame? It's a, well, it's a venereal disease. Specifically, it's a fast traveling bacteria that reproduces and reproduces only when an infected person
Starting point is 00:09:59 is directly engaged in vaginal intercourse. The bacteria can only spread from penis to vagina or from vagina to penis and it's only activated to wake up from a state of dormancy and start replicated and spreading by the friction that only occurs during intercourse. And when it spreads, each partner's sexual organs will start to really burn.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And if they're not careful and don't stop fucking and go get some antibiotics, their dicks, or policies will actually literally burst into flames. Twin flames as the name suggests. Now, of course not. To me, it's really just a rebranded of the soulmate concept, even though it's supposedly much more than that. It's soulmate 2.0, new and improved soulmate, more powerful than ever.
Starting point is 00:10:43 The idea of a twin flame, basically the person that you are destined to be with, the love of your life, just more intense, exploded in Western pop culture after the turn of the century. And it's made a significant comeback in recent years. We've become more prevalent in recent years. Two of the most prominent proponents
Starting point is 00:10:58 of this term in pop culture, recently had been machine gun Kelly and Megan Fox. We've publicly referred to each other as twin flames. As defined by Megan Fox, speaking about Kelly here, instead of a soulmate, a twin flame is actually where a soul has ascended to a high enough level that it can be split in two different bodies at the same time. So we're actually two halves of the same soul. And I said that to him almost immediately
Starting point is 00:11:26 because I felt it right away. Okay, Megan. I wonder if Megan previously was certain that actor Brian Austin Green was her twin flame. The man she was married to for about a decade and had three kids with. I wonder if machine gun Kelly ever felt that Emma Cannon, mother of his daughter, contained the other half of his soul. Also, after publicly declaring themselves to be twin flames, Megan and machine gun, a K.A. Colson Baker broke up for a while. That doesn't seem real twin flame-ish. I would think that when you found the other half of your soul, you know, you'd be living in a pretty harmonious state that wouldn't include little breakups. But what do I know?
Starting point is 00:12:06 I mean, I doubt I am as spiritually knowledgeable and advanced as Megan Dalilama Fox or machine gun ascended master Kelly, right? The term twin flame dates back to long before Colson Baker. I wish he would have kept his birth name, by the way, but added BB gun, right? BB gun Baker. I mean, how far would that be? It's a nice literary. Actually, it's not a literary because I guess G is in the middle of the B's, but it sounds almost like a B G sound. Anyway, adorable. The twin flame goes back to the
Starting point is 00:12:35 Victorian area and it appeared for the first time that I'm aware of in 1886, excuse me, in Marie Carelli's debut novel, A Romance of Two Worlds. Marie Carelli, birth name, Mary Mackay, or McKay, almost no one in today's episode seems content to just stick with their fucking birth name, was a prolific and best-selling English novelist in the 19th and early 20th centuries, whose works were largely concerned with Christianity, reincarnation, astral projection, and mysticism. Connecting her to our Shakespeare suck, she would spend her final years in Stratford upon Avan, and champion the preservation of numerous historic buildings
Starting point is 00:13:13 in the city. Her debut novel is considered an incredibly important cultural and literary work, as it contributed heavily to Victorian England's burgeoning interest and belief in the concept of reincarnation. It also is important to us today because it planted the seeds for the modern concept of the twin flame. The quote that the phrase first originates in, as far as anybody can tell, is as follows.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Messenger of my fate, thou who art to guiding spirit of the elements, thou who write us the storm cloud, and sit us thrown on the edge of the lightning. By that electric spark within me, of which Thou art the twin flame. I ask of thee to send me this one more poor human soul. Let me change its unrestfulness into repose, its hesitation to certainty, its weakness to strength,
Starting point is 00:14:00 its weary imprisonment to the light of liberty. I mean, pretty beautiful stuff, right? Also, that was written in a work of fiction. Important to remember today. All of this twin flame shit based on either concepts blatantly written as fictional concepts, excuse me, or in new age spiritual works written in the past century by some people who sure seem
Starting point is 00:14:21 to have been either con artist or mentally ill or both. In the 1930s, the twin flame concept shows up again when Guy and Edna Ballard, the founders of the I.M. activity spiritual movement, called themselves by the related term twin rays. We actually met Guy and Edna way back and suck one 31 national park mysteries. Guy Ballard was a mining engineer who claimed that during a 1930 visit to California's Mount Shasta when he was 52 years old and apparently had a fucking stroke, right? Some mushrooms he didn't realize were psychedelic. He was contacted by being known as Saint Germain, one of the so-called ascended masters of the great white brotherhood.
Starting point is 00:15:04 The great white brotherhood first described by the person who most likely made these fuckers up. New age OG guru, theosophy's primary founder, Madame Helena Blavatsky, we gotta suck her properly someday. She taught that they were perfected beings of great power who spread spiritual teachings through selected humans. An enlightened community of adepts
Starting point is 00:15:25 who have benevolent goals for the spiritual development of humanity. Vaniblovakki claimed to have met the ancient masters, the White Brotherhood, in the mountains of Tibet, or she probably never even went. And they shared long lost secrets with her, including what happened to the lost and very magical civilization of Atlantis. She taught followers that Atlantis sank as the results of battles
Starting point is 00:15:44 between ancient wizards and magicians and dragons and ancient atomic bombs and all sorts of weird, preposterous shit thousands and thousands of years ago. She was big on reincarnation and spiritual ascension and blending numerous old religious concepts and figures into this new sync syncretic theological teachings of hers. And what does all this ascension talk really even mean? No one fucking knows. It's a bunch of convoluted idiotic wackadoodle word salad. I was cracking up watching videos of various experts trying to break down new age concepts and to understandable definitions.
Starting point is 00:16:17 People like therapists, Dr. Todd Grande, a YouTuber actually really like and they just get so flabbergasted because in the new age world, all these cool sounding terms get tossed constantly just tossed around, right? Ascension, vibrations, frequencies, consciousness, dimensions, vortexes, blah, blah, blah. Here's what Google's new AI search feature came up with as a definition for ascension. In the new age, right? Capital new, capital age, ascension is the process of moving to a higher level of consciousness or dimension.
Starting point is 00:16:49 It can also refer to becoming more aware of your connection with the world around you and your sense of being. Yeah, that really clears it all up. Here's more info I found. The process of ascension begins with understanding the world through knowledge, meditation, and or brain biofield therapy. Some say that if you're waking, you'll probably avoid lower vibrational activities and operate from a higher vibrational frequency. Yeah, cool. Cool. Yeah. No, do we all understand it now? Well, I haven't gone over this stuff a ton on time, so I have researched and covered dozens of
Starting point is 00:17:19 new age wacky noodles on the Secret Suck since 2018 2018 who all live in this world and all say variations of the same shit Dolores cannon teal swan jamey maganagil a vet rose Lee carol Christina Lopez sherry romca Carol Ann Collins jazzy night on and on and on and on And they all use the same terms right they spend hours saying a whole bunch of fucking nothing Just endlessly circling around vague concepts about supposed ancient wise beans, sometimes who are also aliens, who watch us, help us move humanity forward in vague ways, vibrational frequencyways, sharing knowledge with select profits and teachers like Jeff and Shalia divine, knowledge that will help, some of us not get sent backwards in a reincarnation cycle, but instead our
Starting point is 00:18:04 vibrations will move at a high enough frequency to be able to progress into another higher dimension and maybe astral project travel to another world or create a new version of this world as fucking whatever. And all this knowledge, just like the entirety of the world's accumulated religious knowledge has supposedly been dispensed to only a few select individuals who know more than the rest of us. People who claim to have gods here. And the rest of us schmucks are just supposed to believe them, just take them at their word. Do some spiritual trust fall, just hope that the Jeff devines of earth will catch us.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Well, Guy Ballard took some of Velatsky's teachings and expounded on them. He published a book in 1934 titled Unveiled Mysteries, Sharing the Knowledge he supposedly gathered while hiking around Mount Shasta with these ancient masters. He claimed to continue to receive regular transmissions from these masters, uh, termed discourses, long after his initial encounter, uh, one of the masters who talked to him, uh, none other than Jesus Christ. Of course, Guy Bale was a very important man, right? He spoke to all the masters, including Jesus. Because he claimed to speak to Jesus,
Starting point is 00:19:09 members of Ballad's new I.M. movement would consider themselves to be Christian, even though they also pulled on concepts from Buddhism, the philosophy and more. Other Christians did not see them as Christian, continue not to. I would not consider them Christian. Guy and his wife Edna Ballard
Starting point is 00:19:25 working as a team just like Jeff and Shalea divine will claim to receive more than three thousand master messages and those messages will form the body of the movement's teachings. The name I am a reference to the Bible verse in which God replies to Moses I am who I am an Exodus sometimes translated as I am who I am, and Exodus, sometimes translated as I am that I am. The Ballard's incorporate the I am movement into a religion of 1932. Following Guy Ballard's death in 1939, Edna became the movement's leader and revealed messages she received from an ancient master, right, known as Saint Germain, the same Saint Germain, until her death in 1971.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Saint Germain doesn't sound nearly as cool as Jesus. Germain sounds a lot like Jerry. Does anyone really want to take the advice of some supposed ancient master known as Saint Jerry? I don't think so. The I.M. Movement has been described by many as a cult. I would describe it as a cult. And a woman named Elizabeth Claire Wolf, born in 1939, while not a member of the I.M. movement was greatly influenced by many of its teachings. Her mom and botan studied a lot of their literature. Elizabeth would marry a man in 1963, Mark L. Prophet.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I assume that was a made-up name, but his last name really was Prophet. Born to Thomas and Mabel Prophet on Christmas Eve 1918, and he was a theosophist, and a man named Prophet who became a self-proclaimed prophet, uh, who could claim, or, you know, claim did claim, he communicated with just like guy-ballard ancient masters. After meeting Mark in 1961, Elizabeth later claimed to have received vision, while meditating with him that her role in life was to pass on a higher teaching to further humanity's spiritual evolution. Of course, most of these new age prophets, right, they're all about passing on the teachings of the ancient ascended
Starting point is 00:21:09 masters to us low tiered normies. Elizabeth's invited to mark the next day, she was to be one of God's messengers, just like him. He accepted her as a spiritual student and fellow receiver of the master's transmissions probably didn't hurt that she was 21 years younger than him, hot, and that she was fucking him. And together they will now run his new mystical school, the summit lighthouse, which she'll take over after his death in 1973. And she will change the name to the church, universal, and triumphant. Did I mention that Elizabeth's mom took a bunch of pills when she was pregnant
Starting point is 00:21:45 with Elizabeth in an attempt to abort her? And that Elizabeth would suffer random blackouts and seizures all throughout her childhood and thought she had spiritual visions which mom told her were memories of past lives. I feel like that's pretty important to mention. Elizabeth's church universal and triumphant is still headquartered today near Gardner, Montana.
Starting point is 00:22:04 A roughly 800 person town that sits at the main entrance to Yellowstone Park, and they apparently still have a massive underground Armageddon bomb shelter in nearby Corwin Springs, Montana, little unincorporated community, fully stocked with survival supplies, big enough to hold 750 people. Uh, yeah, she became more and more focused on Doomsday revelations that never came true towards the end of her life. That's also probably important to know about her. Well, Elizabeth died in 2009 and her new age religious organization often referred to as
Starting point is 00:22:34 a Doomsday cult has faded into a shell of its former self, but is still limping along in Montana. And why am I talking about her again? Well, connecting this all to the twin flames universe, decade before she died in 1999, Elizabeth Claire Prophet published a book called Soulmates and Twin Flames, the spiritual dimension of love and relationships. And this marked a turning point for new age spiritualism
Starting point is 00:22:58 and the true inception of the modern Twin Flames ideology. Following ideas taken from the 1960s counter-culture, with its emphasis on personal growth and a love not war mindset, as well as 1980s when new age spiritualism meant a lot of new religions springing up and feminist goals, the new age spiritual movement of the early 2000s became, for lack of a better word, trendy, mainly amongst women. Horoscopes, oral readings, tarot readings, and most recently the wellness movement became popularized by the commercialization of new age spiritualism.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And it's all still trendy today. And yes, my crystal queen is aware of a lot of this. She's into crystals and stuff, but not like this into it. I couldn't handle that. The opening pages of prophets, 1999 book read, each one of us has a twin soul or twin flame who was created with us in the beginning. God created you and your twin flame out of a single white fire body. He separated this white fire, avoid, into two spheres of being, one with the masculine polarity and the other with the
Starting point is 00:24:03 feminine polarity, but each with the same spiritual origin and unique pattern of identity. And how does she know this? Well the master's told her when she was meditating and having visions and receiving transmissions. Please do not doubt her divine wisdom ever again. This work really helped fuel the post-90s New Age Spiritualism craze, specifically with millennials who, according to multiple sources, are the largest consumers of New Age spiritual practices and products. And whether they actually are familiar with Elizabeth Proffitt's work or not, I'm sure
Starting point is 00:24:35 that similar literature, and there is so much similar literature now, influenced the creation of Jeff and Shalea's divine book, a Jeff and Shalea Divines book, Twin Flames, Finding Your Ultimate Lover. A book clearly, right, influenced by Elizabeth Claire's crazy shit. This book, which they published in 2018, is available on their website for $17.99, or you can buy a digital copy on Amazon for $9.99. Or randomly, you can buy the paperback copy on Amazon for $17.75. Weird that it's cheaper on Amazon than when you buy it directly from them. Although, you know, we really wanted to read it for this episode. There was no fucking way.
Starting point is 00:25:15 We're going to pay these people any amount of money whatsoever. Not when we can find a way to pirate an online for free, he'll never run. Twin flames fighting in your ultimate lover by Jeff and Shaleed divine is first and foremost, pretty poorly written. I read a lot like a horny letter, a theater kid, would send their crush pepper with new age spiritualist concepts. They're never fully explained. The sheer arrogance of it actually reminds me a little bit of Chad Debel's work that we covered in the Laurie Valor episode. The book was published about a year after Jeff and Shalea started the Twin Flames universe ascension school and calling it a school is a real slap in the face to actual institutions
Starting point is 00:25:50 of higher education. Their school is just a weekly Google Hangout meetings led by Jeff and Shalea where quote students is netterm real loosely come together to talk about their twin flame unions. Twin flames ascension school also refers to the entire back catalog of every meeting they've ever had. Would you can purchase for a couple hundred dollars if you like buying things that waste your time
Starting point is 00:26:13 and complicate and harm your life. In the first chapter of Twin Flames, finding your ultimate lover, Jeff and Shaleia offer a definition of twin flames, a definition that they claim to have actually channeled directly from the mother father, God. Seems like God in their view of the divine is also a twin flame, right? God has a female half and a male half.
Starting point is 00:26:33 They were told, you know, in their transmissions, and since we were created in God's image, we have a female half and we have a male half. The definition is, twin flames are the manifestation of the desire to have an internal in eternal companion other than God. Twin flames were created by the source to have absolute and it's like capitalized source to have absolute and complete companionship with another soul. Excuse me because soulmates come and go but your twin flame is forever sharing with you who eternal life and they mirror God's divine love for you the most clearly. I like how they try to distance the term from soulmates.
Starting point is 00:27:08 This isn't fucking soulmates. Get out of here. That's child. That's kids play shit. Now this is like so much more than that. I mean, a soulmate comes and goes. You have soulmates right left, which is not what people who believe in the concept of soulmates believe.
Starting point is 00:27:24 But I mean, all in all that definition, that definition sounds fairly mundane. However, there's a couple of really major things that differentiate Jeff and Shalee's beliefs from other new age dialogues about what twin flames really are. Before sharing those things, it seems like the least intrusive spot I can find for our first of two mid show sponsor breaks. If you don't want to hear these ads, you can join our Patreon and get ad free and also early release episodes. Thanks for sticking around and we're back to discuss a couple of major points that differentiate Jeff and Shalia's beliefs from other new-age dialogues around what a twin flames really are. The first different idea for Jeff and Shalia is
Starting point is 00:28:02 the concept of a harmonious twin flame union. According to their website back in 2014, Jeff and Shilia is a concept of a harmonious twin flame union. According to their website back in 2014, Jeff and Shilia coined the term harmonious twin flame union, HTFU. After achieving the vibration together, being the first to achieve and discover HTFU, they went on to distill step by step their logical and scientific process of interhealing and purification. They began sharing this process through their body of work and have changed the lives of countless students who have also come to achieve these same results in their lives. Yeah, how cool.
Starting point is 00:28:35 They had the very, very first HTFU vibration. Take a while for us to nail down the actual definition of what a harmonious twin flame union is because they make it out to be the sublime concept that's beyond a mere mortal's understanding. And like I said already, a lot of this is just inherently nonsensical. However, I have quite a bit of research. It seems like what they're suggesting is that a harmonious twin flame union is coming together between two halves of the same soul and compassion, understanding and empathy.
Starting point is 00:29:04 How sweet. So the same old romantic concept of a soulmate or true love, just really, you know, really feeling deeply romantic love. That's all this is. They're just repackaging, you know, a previous concept that's been around forever. This is nothing new. Repackaging the same romantic reality that's been around since, I don't know, whatever, however, however long we've been around.
Starting point is 00:29:26 So what these nut jobs are actually saying when they claim to be the first to achieve and discover HTFU is that they are the first people ever in the entire history of the world, in the history of the universe, to be in a relationship as intimate and devoted and loving as theirs. Now, I know that if one of these people were to hear me say that,
Starting point is 00:29:46 they would simply retort with something like, oh, he has no idea what he's talking about. He could never understand the depth of what a harmonious twin flame union is because he hasn't been to the classes, hasn't been to the courses, hasn't experienced that. And to that, I would say that even if I actually couldn't possibly comprehend whatever spiritual alphabet soup,
Starting point is 00:30:03 their sputtering, still ridiculous. For them to claim that they found a more profound understanding of what it means to be in a loving romantic relationship than anyone else fucking ever in all of history. These co-leaders, they are never short on arrogance, are they? I mean, in 380 BCE, Aristotle wrote, love is a single soul inhabiting two bodies. It's pretty beautiful. 1609, Shakespeare, old Billy Shakes wrote in his son at 116, love is not love which alters when it alteration finds,
Starting point is 00:30:36 or ends with the remover to remove. Oh no, it is an ever fixed mark that looks on tempests and is never shaken. In weathering heights, maybe fix it, Mark, price sounds better. In weathering heights published in 1847, Emily Bronti wrote, If all else perished and he remained, I should still continue to be. And if all else remained, and he were annihilated, the universe would turn to a mighty stranger, I should not seem part of it. My love for him is like the foliage in the woods. Time will change it.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I'm well aware as winter changes the trees. In 1985, Michael Motherfuckin' McDonald wrote, There's never free to worry. I love. There's love, a lot to wear on a sway. Track six off and no looking back. In 2011, Steven King wrote, but I believe in love, you know. Love is uniquely portable magic. I don't think it's in the stars, but I do believe that blood calls to blood
Starting point is 00:31:41 and mine calls to mind and heart to heart. I love that. In 2021, Jim Bob, Jim Bob Dugger wrote, Hey, did we do kiddos? Romantic love is a drug and drugs are bad. Say no to drugs. Say yes to a practical cohabitation arrangement
Starting point is 00:32:01 that lets you focus your love where it's meant to be directed on on the Lord. Romantic love is just another name for lust and that's the devil's work. Let me use an analogy to help you understand. A practical cohabitation arrangement, well it's like, it's like having a nice back, a safe back, a steady reliable 10 speed swing. Nothing too fancy, but dependable and functional. You can't use it for tricks,
Starting point is 00:32:26 but it'll safely get you from point A to point B every day in time. And no one's gonna want to steal it, because it doesn't look that fun. Romantic love is like a wee the people BMX back with carbon fiber rims and a carbonic frame. Now, is it more fun to ride? Oh, hey, did it really do? Yes, maybe. But so much more dangerous. Sure, you can catch some air, but you can also crash real hard. And everyone else is gonna wanna ride it. You want a bike who has a steady beauty,
Starting point is 00:32:54 only you can truly appreciate. Maybe Jemba, didn't say all that, but the rest of the quotes are real. And yet, Jeff and Shalea believe that they know infinitely more about what it means to love and be loved than anyone else who's ever lived. No. Based on that arrogant assertion alone, they can both get fucked. What's so especially crazy about this claim to me is that if you watch enough of their
Starting point is 00:33:17 videos, especially more recent ones, it becomes real apparent that these two do not even have a healthy relationship. Jeff at some time time straight up verbally abusive to Shalia. And you get the feeling, or at least I get the feeling that Shalia resents the fuck out of him for talking down to her like he does. But they're supposed to twin flame love. It's what the brand is based on. So even if they fucking hate each other behind closed doors to make that public, you know, would cost them a lot of money. And they're very profitable very profitable little cold world.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Speaking of their videos in 2017, they posted a video titled Harmony is Twin Flame Union, explained finally that now has 12,000 views. And if they are sitting on what looks like a purple couch with a sheepskin rug thrown over it, candle holder mounted on the wall behind them him that shaped like the Hindu symbol for the second chakra. Shvatthish Tana, which is associated with flow, flexibility and fun. In the video, Shalia is really rocking an unblended bright pink eyeshadow, you know, with a giant spike statement necklace, a look that is very 2012. Looks like a guru who just snuck in a recording right before she went to a my chemical romance concert. Jeff looks like the pompous little fucking dork he always looks like. To me, he always looks like the guy that drives the Honda Civic that's had the little four cylinder engine turbo boosted and has some like magna flow custom exhaust, you know, to make it sound louder or something like that. And he treats every green light like it's a start of a fucking race. Windows down blasting shitty
Starting point is 00:34:44 music. Hopefully, you know, peeling out a little just just a very desperate look at me guys. Look at how fucking cool I am. But does it seem like I hate these two? Because I do. I despise them. Throughout their videos, Shaleia is constantly trying out new funky makeup looks different styles. Seems like Jeff has always changed his hair from super long to super short. Shave his mustache growing out of Jesus-type beard, their trendy styles, desperate energy and enthusiastic. Welcome back to our channels, guys.
Starting point is 00:35:10 You know, kind of openings. It gives off the impression of them just being annoying YouTube influencers and not cult leaders until they start talking. Talking over non-descript humming in the background, Jeff begins, welcome back to our channel. Today, we're going to talk about a very important topic, something that we toss around a lot, and that we promise frequently and as the basis of your direction, but you know,
Starting point is 00:35:33 what we've never really gone deep into it, described it, explained it, and that is harmonious twin flame union explained. And then Shulea piggybacks off in by saying, something that's very profound that differentiates harmonious twin flame union from just twin flame union, special connection and lighten relationship. We've seen people on the internet use the term harmonious twin flame union, but we can see and feel that they don't quite get what that really means or is.
Starting point is 00:35:59 It's not just a pretty fancy word that we attach. There's a real theory and grounded work behind that full term. After several more minutes of, would you just get the fucking point already and stop with the gibberish? You know, they started talking about how they met and how what they felt when they met was far beyond what anyone had ever felt before. And then Shalea finally offered a kind of definition of harmonious twin flame union. Let me give the proper mood for it.
Starting point is 00:36:31 It's more than just words. It's more than just a subtle feeling of, yeah let's commit, let's do that. No, it's something way deeper. It's once you finally synced in who you are and who they are and really experience this deeper level of oneness and you understand that despite having upsets and you working through it, which by the way the only way to reach your harmonious twin flame union is by doing your spiritual work. Doing your twin flame mirror exercise that we describe in our book, you can find the link to that in the description below. And really committing to your spiritual path. Getting into your divine self and into union with God, can you really have a harmonious twin flame union with another person? If you're experiencing some really core upsets with a divine, well,
Starting point is 00:37:26 Chinatrell's off there, starts to giggle, and then Jeff interrupts. The divine is the channel to your twin flame. You can't get to your twin flame if there's a block like that. Yeah, you can't do it. So all in all, Harmony is twin flame union. There's like a normal romantic relationship, but on steroids.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And the only way to achieve that transcendental type of love and unity is through Jeff and Shalia, the greatest two people on earth. Another part of their creed that brings the twin flame universe way past quirky pop culture spiritualist group and into cult territory is to claim that Jeff and Shalia have a unique God-given ability to identify and channel people's twin flames. They're kind of like low-rent superheroes. They can't fly. They can't run super fast.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Or shoot lasers under the rice. They don't have superhuman strength or bulletproof skin. They can't turn visible or conjure fire or ice. But they can identify your soul mate. This is what initially draws so many people to the cult. People that have had a hard time finding love and getting into relationships are captivated by Jeff and Shalia's guarantee, and they do literally guarantee
Starting point is 00:38:32 that there is absolutely 100%. Somebody out there for you and that by joining this group, right, these gurus can and for sure will identify that person, BangleBangle. And also guide them into bringing, you know, a little guide you into bringing this person to your life, right? Praying on the desperate, given them a guarantee of something that cannot be guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:38:53 How many times have we seen this with doomsday cults, guaranteeing salvation, right? The end is near stick with me. I'm the true prophet. You can be a member of my special inner circle, guaranteed to have your soul ascend to heaven when the final battle is waged We saw psychological healing and well-being guaranteed by the therapy-based Sullivanian cult numerous prosperity gospel and faith healer scam artist types like Benny Hinn have promised a cure illness and or lead you to financial, you know success
Starting point is 00:39:23 They all promised their followers something special. This is the first cult I've come across to my best recollection that promises romantic fulfillment, but it's just a new twist on an age old guru grift. Definitely is a supposed ability to confirm for people who their twin flame is, isn't just sexual catnip for in-cell types or for people hitting a romantic rough patch. It's also extremely attracting to those who have
Starting point is 00:39:48 been recently broken up with and just can't get over their ex. As seen in both Netflix doc escaping twin flames and the Amazon prime doc desperately seeking soulmate. Jeff and Shalea hook freshly dumped people in by affirming for them. They yeah, the ex you can't get over. That is in fact your twin flame. You're right to feel this way. You're destined to be with them. They nurture and cultivate people's obsessions over their exes and feed them hope that one day they promise if you follow their teachings that you, you know, of course, have to continually
Starting point is 00:40:19 keep paying a lot of money for they will get back together with you. And that is so fucked. These idiots actively encouraging stocking How long until they encourage the wrong unhinged ombre in that regard and then that motherfucker kills the person's ex and they're held liable I can see that happen because another thing that separates twin flames universe from the rest of the same world is that they do not give a fuck about consent When I remember has a twin flame that is broken up with them or blocked them or is dating a different person or is even married to a different person having a kid with a different person, literally has a fucking restraining order filed against them. Jeff and Shalee have preached that none of that matters. Right?
Starting point is 00:40:58 What their followers have to do is just continue to pursue that twin flame at all costs. And that is some wildly irresponsible and dangerous shit to preach. Although they have released statements denying that they encourage stocking after getting public backlash for this practice. It's obvious. The students are still coached to blatantly ignore rejection and boundaries, you know, and to seek as much contact with their twin flame as possible. One member known as L in the Netflix documentary and newspaper articles and it's Katie in a Vanity Fair article, I read about all this, at least sure seems to be the same person. Join twin flame universe in 2017 after suffering a terrible car accident that led to multiple
Starting point is 00:41:38 spinal surgeries and then getting dumped. Once she joined the TFU or the HTFU, Jeff and Shalia informed Elle that her ex was for sure in fact her twin flame. And that despite his rejection of her, she needed to continue pursuing him. They all stated that she was coerced and manipulated and to thinking that she was doing the right thing for her soul, which eventually led to him writing to her family, how embarrassing is this? He wrote to her family, telling them that she was fucking crazy and that she needed to leave him the hell alone. He told her family, how embarrassing is this? He wrote to her family, telling them that she was fucking crazy and that she needed to leave him the hell alone.
Starting point is 00:42:08 He told her family that he had filed a restraining order against her and would call the police, would not hesitate, to call the police if she kept showing up. After all that happens, on her birthday in 2019, Elle's out dancing in a club to celebrate. Unfortunately, she doesn't know that her ex is also there
Starting point is 00:42:23 or that's what she's claimed. Thinking that she followed him, and I would think that too, when she speaks to him outside of the club, he's like, what the fuck are you doing and calls the police and then she gets arrested? She ends up spending somewhere between two weeks in a month in prison alone. How long she was in, or not in prison in jail,
Starting point is 00:42:40 so excuse me, in jail alone. How long she was in varies a bit from source to source. Somewhere between two weeks and a month, then in the first twin flames ascension class, she attends after being released from jail, Jeff singles her out in front of the group and asks her what happened. He starts to make claims that she intentionally followed her ex to the club and when she started to defend herself, Jeff cuts her off and aggressively says, no, I'm asking you questions and you're still talking over me.
Starting point is 00:43:04 That doesn't really help you in class. El now starts to cry. And he's like, so did you love yourself all the way along? She says, yeah, then isn't that not an act of bravery and courage? She looks really confused. And it's like, yeah. So what does that make you? Well out? Yes a criminal or a spiritual master She looks even more confused but especially says I guess a spiritual master What do you think that does for your relationship with me? Yes Again confusion and then I guess it improves it It gives me enormous trust in you where before I had none
Starting point is 00:43:43 Congratulations out and he just starts clapping right her stay in jail And then having to have her parents bail her out then having to go live with her parents after getting out and deal with the public shame Of being aggressive being a fucking creepy stalker all totally worth it. Oh Jesus Jeff now trust you and that's priceless Remind me of the opening scene of dumb and dumb or two, when Lloyd pretends to be incapable of caring for himself and lives in a group home for 20 years, just to prank Larry or Harry, excuse me. That you were faking for 20 years.
Starting point is 00:44:18 So you mean that you just wasted the best years of your life out the window and you let me come here every Wednesday for like a thousand weeks and it was all just for a gag That's You got it man. I totally had you suckered tonight. Oh my god So the final big thing that makes twin Flame Universe unique and not in a good way is their beliefs about the divine masculine and divine feminine.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Ever since they first started blogging about their relationship in 2014, Jeff and Julia have always discussed this idea that because Twin Flames are two halves of one soul, one of them will always be the masculine expression of the shared soul essence and other is the feminine expression, right?
Starting point is 00:45:06 The yin and the yang. And one video while thrusting his forearm just back and forth like a literal cock. Jeff says, you can perceive the masculine energy like a penis giving a gift, giving a gift, giving a gift, right? Giving a gift, giving a gift. Or you can perceive the feminine as like a vagina receiving a gift. Oh, fuck yeah, bro I'm not to make sure Lindsey understands this concept from this day forward. Uh, hello
Starting point is 00:45:31 My dick is a divine gift I should sneakily share that knowledge with her some night or watching TV on a couch or something right when I'm horny and she's not No, that's cool. Not your tired, I get it, you know? You don't want it tonight, that's fine, no worries at all. Hey, though, I did get you something now. Would you like a present? I mean, unless you're too tired, of course.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And then when she's like, what? Yes, I would love a present, a gift. Would you give me? And then let's fuck with my cock out. Behold woman! That gift is divine and to deny it is unholy. Prepare thy divine gift receptacle This idea sounds better and better than more think about it. I don't see the possible downside or kick back
Starting point is 00:46:12 In another instance on a Facebook post Shalia wrote the feminine energy is receiving abundantly overflowing energy when Jeff and Shalia are what they're saying here It's almost the exact same argument verbatim There's been used throughout history to validate the sexual subjugation and exploitation women, right? And the Victorian era and arguably during almost every other era
Starting point is 00:46:33 in Western history, normative femininity imposed that because women are innately passive vessels that exist only in relation to men, they carry children for their proper places in the home, Right? Be my sex vessel and submit already Lindsey. You get it. In another enlightened lesson on gender, Jeff says you are either masculine or you are feminine energy.
Starting point is 00:46:56 You're not both homosexuality doesn't even really exist. If you're two masculine energies having sex, you're really just shaken hands because it's not your twin flame anyway. I Love it. I'm gonna have to let one of my best and longest friends Eddie and his partner Greg know that they are fucking fake In it. They are just a couple of cockwalkers holding hands doing a little sword fighting for funsies Engaging a little twin flame cosplay Not really in love silly gooses little twin flame cosplay, not really in love, silly gooses.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And approximately 2019, Jeff and Shalee started enforcing this idea of a divine masculine, a divine feminine, more intensely than before. Why? Probably because of that time, the twin flames universe ascension school was growing exponentially, but still only four couples had actually come into
Starting point is 00:47:40 harmonious twin flames, harmonious twin flames union. More and more members, you know, they were getting upset because they've been paying exorbitant amounts of money for a while now to attend these classes, some for, you know, around two years and still single. Nothing unchanged other than losing money and wasting time. A former member named Shanice was interviewed saying the twin flames ascension school came with a guarantee that you would be in harmonious union with your twin flame. Jeff and Julia did not deliver what they promised.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Initially, your twin flame could be anyone and they did not have to be in the group. They changed the rules where your twin flame absolutely now had to be a participant in the group in order for you guys to reach harmonious union. Funny how she like that works with cults, right? Everything is designed to serve the leaders and things keep morphine and twisting to serve the leaders more and not the needs of the group, often at the expense of the needs of the group. Suddenly, Jeff and Shalee started to change the rhetoric. They began telling many members that the person they had previously confirmed was their
Starting point is 00:48:39 twin flame, actually not their twin flame, their real twin flame, somebody else in the group. Sure, they lost a few followers when they made this big switch, but they soon found other desperate people to follow them. So, you know, I doubt they really gave a fuck. How sad that they didn't lose everyone? I mean, their primary sales point was that they have this special power, divine power to be able to pick
Starting point is 00:49:04 your real twin flame, right? That is why they had followers the only real reason. And then they just admitted that they fucked up a whole bunch. You know, one woman went to jail for stocking her ex. The ex they fucking told her to stock and that was all for nothing. That was a big whoopsy. Hey, you know how all the twin flames you paid thousands to find the ones we told you
Starting point is 00:49:23 were your real twin flames? Yeah, we were just we were joking around We were testing you The real twin flame right here in this community But now they had a new problem right their group was almost all women So Jeff and Shalia come up with a very fucked up loophole solution Not poophole loophole. They began to inform some of their female members That they were actually even though they had no idea,
Starting point is 00:49:47 they were actually divine masculine, big plot twist. Sorry guys, you only thought you were women, your whole lives, you only thought that you wanted to remain women and were perfectly happy being women. But newsflash, you don't want cock, you don't actually. You want to have one. And that cock wants to be divinely gifted to someone else's divine receptacle pussy.
Starting point is 00:50:10 You only thought you found sexually repulsive previously for your entire life. If you still think you find it repulsive, that's just because your vibrational frequency isn't really ascended enough. And don't even worry about it, we have some classes that'll fix that right up. That's the level of crazy we're dealing with now.
Starting point is 00:50:29 In December 2019, Jeff and Shalea majestically channeled 20 new twin flame couples within the group and posted the new pairings on Facebook. Most were homosexual couples, even though Jeff had said that, you know, homosexuality wasn't real. And the list stated who was the divine feminine and who was the divine masculine. Now two women could suddenly become twin flames because they weren't just two locks, scissor in a way at night. Now, one would be a lock and the other would be the key.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Now they could, you know, truly be in a pee in the velof and not just goofing around high five and labius and whatnot. And one pairing between a woman named Angie and another named Victoria, Angie's coach Kiley invited the student to be coupled to a Zoom call to share the good news. Upon being told that her friend Angie was actually her twin flame, Victoria immediately said no, now because she was not, you know, a lesbian. Keely the coach then wisely responded in spiritual truth Angie is a divine masculine. Victoria, good on her was like,
Starting point is 00:51:33 yeah, fuck that, I'm out. And she left the group, but others would stay for this crazy, right? This is a definite new cult move here. Controlling your followers, genders, quite the cult flex by Jesus Jeff and Shalea Bobblehead. During this time, another woman named Jesse was informed by Jeff and Shalea that she was divine masculine. Jesse told him that she had never felt that she was in the wrong body, that she had, you know, always felt like a woman, enjoyed being a
Starting point is 00:52:00 woman. So now to help her fix this issue of hers, they sent her to a divine healing group. My God, this is also incredibly fucked up. So psychologically abusive to try to convince people totally happy with their gender and sexual persuasion that they actually, they do want to flip it all around. They don't know what they do. Also, Jeff and Shalia can keep their unions inside their cult, cult, cult, right? Just keep their little echo chamber pure, easier to, you know, make money off these people if there's no outside external voices. No part of me understands how desperate you have to be to be willing to even consider
Starting point is 00:52:36 this. Dan, you only think you've been sexually fantasized in about a variety of sexual acts between you and your penis and women's nude bodies Literally every day of your life ever since you went through puberty Because you find a beautiful woman's nude body literally the most exciting thing on earth But but actually you don't you just have thought you did you actually deep down Crave the dick Even though you think you've convinced yourself that the thought of another dick approaching you in a sexual manner is repulsive to the point
Starting point is 00:53:06 It makes you feel like you want to throw up. You don't, you don't want to throw up. You want to suck it, but you want to gag on that cock. So we're going to need you to be a woman now and go suck that dick. Incredible what people are willing to do to keep convincing themselves that they've made the right choice. Joining the cult. Hey, hey, hey, all the twin flames members who didn't feel aligned with the gender definitely assigned them were sent to this secret divine healing group for training, you know, where they could learn to accept their masculinity or, you know, femininity, except
Starting point is 00:53:35 themselves as a man within a woman's body. If that was the case, they were told they could not tell anybody else that they were going to these meetings. I don't talk about it. And no one was allowed to leave the sessions until everyone had complied and healed the block. I wonder if privately, Jeff and Shalee were getting off on how far they were able to push some people like whether he's just getting high at home and just laughing, they're just sadistic asses off about all this. Jesse was told to cut her hair, long hair short change her clothes and start thinking about mail names
Starting point is 00:54:06 that she liked and that she needed to change her pronouns and he was given similar instructions she said i was told to make a lot of changes really quickly during this period was the coaches responsibility to get the female members to comply with their true gender and if they did not they would be kicked out of the group i mean cult uh... keely and his coach who has since left the group, was interview saying,
Starting point is 00:54:28 I didn't realize it was abuse. And she's like, crying. I mean, saying that she, this group fucked her up so bad. I didn't realize it was abuse. I just knew it was scary and I didn't like it. It was hard for me to identify it. What exactly was happening at the time? Oh, man, I bet it was hard. It's all just a bunch of insanity. When she leaves the group, she'll actually track down people that she counseled and like apologize to them
Starting point is 00:54:49 for being swept up in all this insanity. Good on her. And the documentary, A Mother of Twin Flame Universe member Isaiah spoke about how her son transitioned to Mayo, saying, my child was born female, identified as a female, until he joined Twin Flame Universe.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I'm trying my hardest to use the pronouns, he and him, I'm trying my best, hopefully I don't slip up, but I'm trying to respect my child. I asked how long he had felt this, he said immediately when I became a twin flame. Okay, fuck that. So he never felt that before he joined this fucked up group. Right, and he joined it as 20s by the way.
Starting point is 00:55:23 This is not how sexuality works at all based on our current collective understanding. You don't feel totally fine in one gender, your entire childhood, part of your adulthood, then join a cult, then, you know, suddenly realize you should be the other gender only when you are commanded to be the other gender by delusional maniac. Why can't the parents of cult members start killing cult leaders? That's a form of murder. I truly support. I mean, how great would that be if every story of a new cult I talked about here ended the same way with the cult leader or
Starting point is 00:55:54 leaders being murdered, ideally in some incredibly agonizing way by the parents of one of the members. If not by a member or former member. I feel like that became a common occurrence. Maybe you go a long ways towards encouraging people to, I don't know, don't start a cult. Or I don't know, maybe it wouldn't. Maybe these people are so arrogant and narcissistic and have such delusions of grandeur. They would consistently think that, oh yeah, other cult leaders were killed because they were false prophets. I'm the real fucking deal. I'm untouchable. I'm a golden god. Still be satisfying though, to see them take it out.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Isaiah gave his parents a five hour notice, after telling them that their daughter was now their son, that he was leaving the next morning to be with his twin flame. Right, his family begged him not to go, but that would be the last time so far his parents have seen him. It appears based on TFU's website that Isaiah's still heavily in the cult.
Starting point is 00:56:46 In a YouTube video titled Twin Flames, Isaiah and Sage, how we met released three years ago, Isaiah and his partner Sage talk about their relationship. We obtained our harmonious union four months ago. We've been working towards manifesting our physical union and just being able to come together. We finally done it. We were finally able to make it happen. It says Isaiah. He then goes on to describe
Starting point is 00:57:05 What it was like leaving home to go moving with his twin flame. We'd never met in person before Said I was scared to death leave my house because I felt like I was just afraid because Well, I was leaving a household with my biological parents and they were basically telling me that I was making the biggest mistake of my life So I was just upheaving all that fear. I was very afraid Because I didn't know how we would feel see each other. I didn't know if we would be attracted to each other. I just had no idea what it would like to be meeting in the physical. Earlier that year, Isaiah's twin flame sage was told by Jeff and Shalia that although she was born in a masculine body, she was actually a divine feminine. The video she says, I was also terrified. It was a little multi-layered, all my different emotions.
Starting point is 00:57:46 The day of I was honestly working through a lot of sadness, a lot of sadness because I felt like so attached, you know, to my masculinity and I was upset because being with Isaiah would purge me of all of it. And I had just feelings of just like, I don't want to give this up and I don't like femininity. And I feel forced to do this and I don't like it. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:58:06 They convinced, right? A man who was happy as a man to become woman and a woman who was happy as a woman to become a man and Jordan and harmonious twin flame union. Seems like it would have been so much easier to let the man be a man and the woman stay a woman. But maybe Jeff and Shalea, you know, wouldn't be able to get off on that the same way, not the same flex. Maybe they sense enough weakness. They could pull this off. To me, none of this has anything to do with the traditional transgender experience where
Starting point is 00:58:30 someone has felt that their whole life that they were born the wrong gender. This is so different. This is abuse, control, and manipulation. And it does show how powerfully people can be manipulated, which is why I think there should be legal hoops that people have to jump through, like a psychiatric evaluation numerous counting sessions before undergoing a major surgical procedure like something involved in gender reassignment, but not something that should be taken lightly at all and these fuckhead cult leaders have proven that in some cases, you know, you can be manipulated in the switching genders, you know, reminds me of how Jim Jones was able to convince some of his straight male followers
Starting point is 00:59:04 that they were actually gay and he was doing them a favor by fucking them in the ass, but he was straight It's fucking crazy shit. This unusual pairing as you might imagine did not start off well Sage said when she first saw Isaiah in person she was unimpressed He said I saw you and I had this disappointment Because I had this expectation that you would, I don't know, come across as or look more masculine than you did or something. Honestly, it did feel like meat and a stranger. We did feel that initial shock and disappointment upon meeting each other.
Starting point is 00:59:34 That is not supposed to be how it works. It's telling us like how much deeper we have to go and love in ourselves and really get into know ourselves. No, it's telling you you fucked up. It's telling you that you and Isaiah made a huge mistake Green to participate in this fun house mirror version of a healthy romantic relationship You're allowing Jeff and Shalea to play some version of Dr. Frankenstein with you These two looks so uncomfortable and so confused in this video
Starting point is 01:00:01 So sad how Jeff and Shalea have warped their minds so extremely. In a twin-flamed universe blog post title, learning what it means to be a divine masculine. A current member named Gabriel wrote about his experience transitioning after he, but she, when told, she had to change her gender, was told by Jeff and Shalea that, you know, she was actually a divine masculine. A little over a month ago, it was revealed that I am a divine masculine. At first, I was very scared and resistant. Yeah! That's how you were supposed to feel! I didn't want to be a man. Being a man in my mind was associated with all these negative things. Being mean, hard, and opish. I'd met work and interacted with plenty of men who were not this way, of course. However, I found memories of my father had painted my views. After I worked
Starting point is 01:00:44 through those blocks and misconceptions and finally accepted myself as a divine masculine, I felt an incredible peace and relaxation wash over me. Oh God. I received from Jeff and Shaleigh the guidance that there was no pressure to change anything about myself. Oh, fucking bullshit. You were going to be kicked out if you didn't change. But if I were you, I'd move as fast as I could in the direction of what feels good.
Starting point is 01:01:03 They said, I took that to heart and I started exploring and experimenting with what felt good to me. Jeff also shared with me that the reason I'm a man and a woman's body is because I had a bad string of fathers in past lives. Oh boy. And I saw that girls typically receive more love from their fathers. So I tried coming here as a girl. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Of course, knowing that everything is a mirror, that did not work out for me. My relationship with my father is still very strained and it really only reflects upsets within myself and with God. However, I am healing my connection with God every day that I embrace more of who I truly, this is so much fucking brainwashed talk. This is somebody who does not have a mind of their own anymore. This is just weird fucking cult hive mind think talk bullshit. How many suicides are eventually gonna come out of this group?
Starting point is 01:01:49 Right, and if you've watched some of the docu series, you know that some members have already taken in on lives because of how confusing and abusive and fucked up all this is, these people are already vulnerable and fragile when they find Jeff and Shalia. And then those two fucking sadistic idiots make the lives of these people so much worse. How many people are gonna go undergo gender reassignment surgery only to satisfy?
Starting point is 01:02:09 Jeff and Shalea's crazy ass romantic divine directives. Then eventually leave this cult or be kicked out for some random reason or you know, Jeff and Shalea, eventually go to jail, die, group is over. Then if they start to deprogram a wave of moldists, how do you look at a freak up like, what the fuck am I done? I can kinda handle losing all my money. I can kinda handle having to work really hard to mend fences
Starting point is 01:02:32 with family members I've shunned over the years, but I had my fucking dick removed. This is very hard to handle. Dr. Cassius Adair, who's a professor at the new school and the author of the upcoming book Transgender Internet, said during an interview that the way Jeff and Shalee dictate people's genders is entirely about holding control and power over them has nothing to do with being the only people able to tell them that some followers were transgender but didn't know it which they've claimed.
Starting point is 01:02:57 You know, they see what the rest of us cannot. All right, woo! Now let's talk about all the people who've been exploited by Jeff and Shalea, who have ended up in the Twin Flames universe. How do you actually join this cult? A question I will answer after our second of two mid-show sponsor breaks. And I'm back! Now for real, let's look at the question, how do you actually join this cult? Well, it begins the same way you might join a gourmet cheese of the month club, or enrolling online classes, or or keep up with the bad magic production YouTube channel. You subscribe. By subscribing, depending on what type of subscription you have, you gain access to some percentage of their online content and are invited to join in on their sermons,
Starting point is 01:03:38 classes, seminars, group therapy, Zoom sessions, whatever. And if you decide to stay past a little introductory information, you get, well, then you you decide to stay past a little introductory information, you get, well, then you got to pay, like with all good cults in the Twin Flame universe, you have to find the luxurious lifestyle of the gurus in order to save your soul, or in this case, a case meet love of your life. And soon, maybe also save your soul. It seems like they're building towards some kind of promise of being exalted in the afterlife, or an apocalyptic second coming. This cult started off in romance, but I feel like they're going to end in a more traditional
Starting point is 01:04:10 doomsday scenario, more on that towards the end of the timeline. Currently, they're still mostly focused on making money online, broadcasted across the products section of the Twin Flames universe website, under a very on a very on the nose photo of a couple sitting in front of a flaming bonfire is a sentence. The promise of dreams is that they come true. Oh, man, wow, how profound. That sentence means literally nothing. That's a nothing sense.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Dreams do not always come true. Sometimes dreams are just fun shit to think about that doesn't need to come true. Other times dreams are a collection of weird disconnected scenes, so strange I question my sanity when I wake up from them. That sense has no purpose, except to be a funnel, right? The viewer with its idiocy, maybe so much, that they might start thinking something like,
Starting point is 01:04:58 I must just not understand how profound that dumb, seeming statement is, because I'm not wise and enlightened enough. I need to get enough. I need to get smarter. I need to get my vibrational frequency heightened so I can ascend and receive such wisdom. Let's not wisdom. There's a bunch of words, it's true together to impersonate a real sense that has a real meaning. Anyway, here you can buy Jeff and Shalee's book as I stated earlier for 1799. One totally unbiased review of this book reads, this book is 100% fact.
Starting point is 01:05:27 It's the Twin Flames Bible. It's eternal. God, I hope not. I hope this shit's over in a few years' tops. The only free thing you can access from the cult is the Twin Flames introductory course, which is, or the only free thing, yeah, which is all about interpurefication and healing your emotional wounds. You can take the course in either English or randomly German and all you need to do is get it to get it is to fill your name in an email
Starting point is 01:05:52 dress or fill in your name, excuse me, and email dress. So obviously that's what we did and not disappointed. The introductory course includes eight lessons to email to you each week for weeks. So unfortunately, since we, you know, don't make these episodes a month in advance, at this point, we've only gotten two lessons of the divine wisdom of Jeff and Shalia. But, you know, it's more than enough. The first lesson is titled, Attracting Harmonious Twin Flame Union,
Starting point is 01:06:19 and it's all about self-love. No matter where you are right now, no matter where you came from, no matter what has happened to you, no matter what the situation will promise you with all that we are, that you will attain harmonious twin flame union with your true twin flame. If you do what we are guiding you to do, all we are guiding you to do is to love yourself. And this will produce literally incredible, miraculous, yet scientific results. Every time for every person, including you. Is that all you do? Just guide people to love themselves?
Starting point is 01:07:00 You. Is that all you do? Just guide people to love themselves? Does being told you to switch a gender or you're gonna be kicked out of the group fall under a form of basic guidance? Oh yeah. Did I talk about the pressure put on members of Chains genders to conform to Jeff Scott Feeling
Starting point is 01:07:16 on who was a divine masculine or divine feminine, right? Those told to do that in the secret divine healing group, you know, who continually feuds, you know, banish from the group. Again, that's so fucked up. Back to the free info you get. First lesson is accompanied by a PDF version of the mirror exercise,
Starting point is 01:07:31 which Jeff and Shalia use constantly in their teachings. It's so much mirror talk, and it is, it is so frustratingly stupid. It's so fucking stupid. I can't believe like, I can't believe they fucking get anyone to fall for this, but whatever. The mirror exercise is a self-improvement tool that you can do right now in the comfort of your own home.
Starting point is 01:07:51 According to Jeff and Julia, the mirror exercise is a surefire way to manifest the life you want in a tractor twin flame by learning to take responsibility for things that happen to you. And there are just four steps to the exercise. Step one, right? First, identify what's upsetting you. The example given for this step is, I am upset at Bob because he is rejecting me.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Second, change all the nouns and pronouns to point at yourself. So I'm upset at Bob because he is rejecting me, becomes I'm upset at myself because I am rejecting myself. Third, ask yourself if the statement is true. According to the intro course, the answer is always yes, like literally always. The response to this question, the example scenario is yes, I reject myself because I always
Starting point is 01:08:43 tell myself that I don't deserve love. I am doing to myself what Bob does to me. After you reach the realization that everything is your fault, you're ready for step four, which is simply to love yourself. It is fucking maddening that these two piles of shit, jeff and shalee of these two-legged fucking parasites. Can hook people in with this exercise, this mind-numbingly stupid.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Are you kidding me? The mere exercise is garbage, total nonsense. Just because Bob is rejecting you, that in no way shape or form means that you must also be rejecting you. Bob might not just fucking like you, and that can have everything to do with Bob and Jack's shit to do with you. Bob might not just fucking like you and that can have everything to do with Bob and Jack shit to do with you. Maybe fuck Bob and find someone else. Definitely it used this dumb, exceptionally cruel exercise to break down their student's
Starting point is 01:09:37 self-esteem and manipulate them and to believe in that any burdensome thing that happens to them is the results of their own lack of spiritual work. And guess who's right there? Who's ready to get these students all the spiritual work they need to get their lives right? All the, you know, the advice that they need that they will have to pay a lot of money for. Yeah, Jeff and Shalea Bobblehead.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Check out how these assholes use this nonsense. When students complain of sexual and physical abuse within from their twin flame, they were encouraged to do the mirror exercise assholes use this nonsense. When students complain of sexual and physical abuse within from their twin flame, they were encouraged to do the mirror exercise to get to the actual root of the problem. One former member, Keely, confided in Shelley and Jeff that her twin flame Colby was frustrated with her for not wanting to have sex with him, and would occasionally try to force her into it. Instead of a conversation with Colby about spousal rape, Keely is told to do the mirror exercise in order to discover that she wasn't actually mad at Colby for sexually forced himself on her. She was mad at herself
Starting point is 01:10:32 for not being sexually active enough. Right, your twin flame literally can't rape you. You got it? If you resist him, that's a you problem. And you need to mirror that shit around in your head until you accept that your twin flame gets to do whatever the fuck they want to whenever they want to Right that boner not a rape weapon. It's a divine gift So stop acting like you don't like rock hard presence Keeley's younger sister Marley was given similar advice when she complained of her twin flame being too violent She was encouraged to reach the conclusion through the mirror exercise that she wasn't actually mad at your twin flame for being violent towards her. She was mad
Starting point is 01:11:09 at herself for creating an uncaring and cold home environment that provoked her twin flame to violence. So nice, in the twin flames universe, you're never a victim of domestic violence. No, you're an instigator, a catalyst of domestic violence. Some dangerous victim blaming going on here. It's almost like people with zero formal training and relationship counseling shouldn't be able to proclaim themselves a relationship gurus. One member, once posted on the twin flame universe Facebook, I am having a hard time clearing the upset around my twin,
Starting point is 01:11:45 filing a restraining order and making false statements in it. Fellow members responded with, you put a reason this is so fucking stupid. Fellow members responded with comments like, you put a restraining order on yourself. You made false statements about yourself. That literally doesn't make any sense. My God, going over all this,
Starting point is 01:12:04 I kept thinking about that scene in Zoolander. When Will Ferrell's character, Mugato, he just can't take acting like Zoolander has a multitude of modeling looks anymore, right? He just has one. But everyone's pretending, like he's doing something more than he is and it's making him feel fucking crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:19 That's how I would feel if I was like forced to be in this group. Who cares about Derek Z zoo and their anyway? The man has only one look for Christ's sake. Blue Steel, Ferrari, Latifra, they're the same face! Doesn't anyone notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills! And who cares?
Starting point is 01:12:40 That's how I feel. If I force my brain around this it the time, just, you know, maybe you fall statements about yourself, restraining order against yourself, do you hear how stupid you say, I feel like I'm telling you crazy pills. Jeff often uses the mirror exercise to abuse his followers. During a private certified ascension coach meeting,
Starting point is 01:13:00 Jeff wants to hold a follower. The person that you're frustrated with is you. You're the mopey-wine, little bitch. Cut it out. Solid advice, guru. That's why it gets the big bucks. Very cool, very Jesus-like. Second lesson included in the intro course
Starting point is 01:13:15 is titled Creating the Life of Love and Romance Now. And it states, if you desire to join us in the purely transcendental and it states, Then allow your hearts and mind to open fully to the unconditional love that pours forth from spirit, from us and our work, and from your twin flame to you in every moment. We do not ask you to lay down or suspend your logic, for that would be unequivocally insane. Oh my God, that is literally exactly what they do. There's an entire charade. There's built-on followers laying down and suspending their logic.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Fuck me. It continues. HTFU is safe, sane, logical, peaceful, loving, supportive, liberating, and life giving to all. We ask that you empty your cup so that we may fill it. Once you know what HTFU is, then you have it because it is transcendental. It requires releasing preconceived notions so that you can be where it is, rather than in the state of some form of separation that you may be in. If you let us help guide you, we'll take you all the way there.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Promise. Cult, cult, cult, cult. And HTFU, oh yeah, I think I said it already, stands for Harmonious Twin Flames Universe, right? I haven't said that a bit. And that's the end of the free wisdom. One of the things you can purchase from Twin Flames Universe is a four-part video series called Toronto Talks
Starting point is 01:15:12 for $111. Essentially, it's a video recorded of the second in-person Twin Flames universe ascension workshop held in Toronto. Up in Canada, July 27th, July 28th, 2019. And one video of, I would have been there, but it would let me in 2019 and one video of I would have been there but they would let me in. In one video of the workshop, Jeff calls Twin Flames Marley and Joshua onto the stage. Marley had joined Twin Flames Universe via the Facebook group at the age of only 19. She was encouraged to do so by older sister Keely. We'd later go on to be come a certified
Starting point is 01:15:40 ascension coach, right? We've talked about these two a little bit now. At so young and age, Marley was less on the lookout for the love of her life and more interested in just finding the supportive community of, you know, friends, group of friends. But the very first in-person workshop held in New York City the year prior, Marley was told by Jeff that her twin flame
Starting point is 01:15:57 was a man who had recently joined the Facebook group named Joshua. Joshua was 11 years old to the Marley, didn't have a job, suffered from a skit so affected this order and had a serious criminal record. Marley also found him after seeing a picture of him online to be quote creepy. And he said he was not attracted to him in any way, so this is really fun for her. Despite all that, Jeff and Shily had told her that they had the divine wisdom to understand
Starting point is 01:16:24 that Joshua was in fact her twin flame, and they pressured her to move to Utah to be with him as soon as possible. And if she wanted to be with him, she would have to go to Utah because he was not allowed to leave the state, due to pending criminal charges. What the fuck? By the time the Toronto talks came around, they've been living together these two for about a half a year now. And on state, it is so sad.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Marty looks like she's just about to break down and cry. She looks so fragile. She looks more like a fucking hostage, like she's in a sexual trafficking situation. Then she looks like someone in their ideal romantic pairing with her soulmate, more than soulmate, twin flame. When Jeff and Julia brought the two on stage, the first thing Jeff's ask her is, how does it feel to have it all? It just completely ignore us.
Starting point is 01:17:06 The obvious body cues of, I'm fucking suffering. Marley squeezes her eyes shut, literally muffles a cry, and Meekley says, I'm a feeling, yeah, I'm just, I'm very grateful to have everything that I've ever wanted. It's fucking ridiculous that people are going along with this. It looks like she's realizing that she had just helped kidnap herself. That she had trafficked herself, right? She'd given herself over to be used and abused as a sex toy by a man. She knew it was a fucking creep.
Starting point is 01:17:32 The first time she saw him. She will later say once out of this cult, like a lot of other former members that she went along with this and so many of the things that she didn't feel good about because she just felt all this pressure to not let other members down. She didn't want to disappoint and upset Jeff and Shalea, right? This intense peer pressure. She also, you know, have been so broken down by all of this, so brainwashed that she didn't trust her own instincts, her own feelings anymore, which is exactly what they want.
Starting point is 01:17:58 She trusted what Jeff and Shalea told her she should feel more than what she actually did feel, for only $12 more than the price of the Toronto talks. You can also purchase the romance in Sedona workshop package. In the very town that Jeff and Shalia first met in person in 2012, after me done lying, October 8th, 2021, the cult held its third in-person gathering, Sedona, Arizona. The first of the four part video series opens with Jeff and Shalia walking into a conference room of what looks like, I don't know, maybe 40 to 60 people, all clapping cheering for
Starting point is 01:18:27 them as they fucking cockily, cockily, cocky. Walked to the stage in a cocky way. I didn't try to make them a new word. You know, they just like, there was like a cockily way they walked. Once seated, Jeff turns to Shalia and says, seven years ago, I came to Sedona and I found Shalia living in a garage, sleeping on a mattress on the floor, riding a bike to work in the desert heat. Here she is today, decked out in Chanel. The meager audience erupts into a plaza, eventually a response. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:18:57 I think I do well for myself. She does this a lot. He'll brag about how much money they have, like all the time. It's so weird. And really references like designer brands all the time. Right, he's really into designer shit. I mean, because he, you know, he's Jesus. You know, it reminds me of how like Jesus, you know, was super into, you know, designer clothes. It's tough.
Starting point is 01:19:17 I mean, you remember OG, Jeff Jesus, back in Nazareth, you know, always wearing Gucci slides, cashmere Paul Smith, Ro, Tiffany Gold, Diamond Link Chain, you know, Rock and Roll X. That sounds like him, right? During the workshop, a twin flames couple, Charles and Oshiana actually get married in Jeff and Shaleigh is recently founded Church of Union,
Starting point is 01:19:35 which will get into more of the timeline. Besides the workshop and the wedding, there was something happening in the romance in Sedona workshop, not caught on Jeff and Shaleigh's cameras, but caught by some documentary filmmakers cameras. A company by her daughter, Paula, a woman named Louise Cole, was outside the conference center, sitting at a picnic table under an umbrella, gripping a lengthy handwritten letter,
Starting point is 01:19:57 trying to keep her shit together, not cry. Waiting for a chance to give it to her daughter, Paula's identical twin sister Stephanie. Stephanie joined Twin Flames Universe 2018. After a man she was convinced was the love of her life projected her. Less than a year later, she cuts off all communication with her family, including her twin sister, who she was previously incredibly close to. This devastates Paula and Louise. The two came to Sedona in hopes of making some sort of contact with Stephanie, just give her a letter, a few gifts, tell her they love her they miss her But the areas of the conference center where twin flames universe were congregating being monitored by you know bodyguards
Starting point is 01:20:31 They couldn't even get close enough to scan the crowd for Stephanie's face Wasn't until after they combed through the many social media posts members were making about the workshop that they realized Stephanie not in a single photo So she wasn't there Stephanie not a unique case in the twin flame universe, Jeff and Shalia constantly teach followers that anybody who belittles or doesn't agree with the work they're doing like this son of a bitch should be cut completely out of their lives, even if they're family, right? Huge red cult cult, cult flag. So sad. You know, after all, according to the gurus,
Starting point is 01:21:06 those people, your mother's father siblings, they're not even your real family. It's your soul family that matters. And your soul family is of course only the twin flame universe family. Uh, you know, the family where you have to continuously pay for expensive courses, volunteer massive amounts of time, uh, to remain a member of other parents of twin flame, twin family,
Starting point is 01:21:24 twin flame, uh, cult members, uh, who had completely isolated themselves from their families who were interviewed by vice. One mom told y'all that the last time she heard from her kid was right after she sent them thousands of dollars, which they used to pay for more twin flames universe classes. Uh, speaking of classes, other classes members can sign up for and purchase are the Romance Attraction E-Course for $333 cents in a pattern here with the payment amounts. The Dreams Coming True E-Course for $777. The Sermons of Twin Flame Ascension School for $800N. Can you guess?
Starting point is 01:21:59 That's right, $80. The entire Twin Flames Ascension School for $3,333 or the Everything Package for $8, the entire Twin Flames Ascension School for $3,000, $333, or the everything package for $8,000 and yes, $888. And those prices are actually misleading. Those are the prices if you pay for everything once. I clicked on the Learn More button on the everything package and you either make a one-time payment of $8,880 or you make 12 payments of $880, which equals $10,656.
Starting point is 01:22:29 You do get a lot. You get nine individual products. You get over 650 hours of video content, 400 plus classes. Each average in 90 minutes, 30 plus e-courses, lessons with the exercises, two four part workshop series,
Starting point is 01:22:44 and best, three part guided meditation. As you can tell from the insane prices of some of the classes, Jeff and Shalia, making it a pretty good sum of money, just from people buying their products, joining the programs. Also make a lot of money off their spiritual school because it's set up like a pyramid scheme. Upon joining students are encouraged to find and hire a certified ascension coach to help mentor their spiritual journey. According to their website, your ascension coach
Starting point is 01:23:08 is the secret to unlocking the full potential of the teaching of union, having the support of a highly trained professional to help guide you to navigate this journey is critical to your success. When you join, you can either fill out a questionnaire for them to assign you a coach or you can choose one yourself from their profiles. Next each coach's name is a little acronym indicating their qualifications as a mentor.
Starting point is 01:23:30 They can be either a CAC certified ascension coach or a MCAC master certified ascension coach and who certifies these people. I'm Jeff and Celia, of course. And they're both qualified to do so because they've been certified by themselves, but also really by God since Jeff is God. I guess it's redundant to say that they've been certified by God. If I've already said they've been certified by Jeff, sorry, Jeff, Jesus. Next to a few names, along with CAC or MCAC, is the acronym HTFU, to specify that they're also, along with with being certified in a successful harmonious twin flame union certified and live in the truth.
Starting point is 01:24:09 I'm guessing that those coaches get the most clients. I mean, as they should obviously really it's kind of weird that someone should be able to be a master or master certified ascension coach. If they don't have a twin flame, right, if they're supposed to help guide you to find yours. Like, how do they know if they can't do it? To become a coach, members need to complete the entire collection of Jeff and Shalee's teachings,
Starting point is 01:24:30 which again, you know, cost at least $8,881. Once someone becomes a coach, they now have two main jobs. First is to guide the people they're coaching and finding their twin flame. Second is to create more certified ascension coaches. So find more people willing to fork over that $8,888 at least. Although certified ascension coaches do make a profit
Starting point is 01:24:50 for mentoring, 50% of what they make goes to Jeff and Shalea. So that's a pretty sweet grift, right? Come up with a bunch of new age words, salad, fucking cycle babble, where you play a game of madlib, and just insert words here and there like twin flame frequency vibration or past lives destiny divine You know into the blanks convinced a group of sad lonely really desperate people this all actually means something and then
Starting point is 01:25:14 You know that you can possess divine knowledge and then once you've done all the legwork You know you convince these followers to then become masters not as masterful of as you of course But masterful enough to go full amway and start selling your bullshit to new recruits who then can also become masters, find more recruits, become masters. Everyone both worships you and also sends a lot of money your way. Hail the good God, HTFU, more powerful, Ramway maker of spiritual ascension classes and random YouTube videos. Wow. In one video of an ascension school class as seen as in the Amazon documentary,
Starting point is 01:25:51 Jeff is talking to a student whose face is burnt out. He asked her, what's your purpose? What do you care about most? And without hesitation, she says, I want to be performing on the stage. I'm really good. I'm born with the voice. It's what I want to do. Chef, this piece of shit responds by saying, as you're talking about it, you start to sound, yeah, like all the love, you know, drain for your voice. You don't want to do that right now. You don't want to be on stage. You're confused. Man, or she's like, I don't? No, no, you don't. Don't you want to be an ascension coach? You can either follow your heart or be unhappy. That's only one, there's only one way to happiness. It's following your heart and being an ascension coach is quite in your heart.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Shalia then pipes in with, may you choose wisdom. Fuck these predators. They're so trans, you know what makes me so mad? They're not even hiding how slimy they are. It's so transparent, like immediately, that they're so full of shit. Just breaking fragile people down. In another video from a certified ascension coach meeting, Jeff says, it's going to cost you money to reach the next level. And you're not going to be able to have a job.
Starting point is 01:27:04 But if you really had the fire of Christ and you you would do everything in your power to share this and that he says that You know when the person's like, I don't know if I can you know to do the solid tie right? It's not enough money. He's like fuck you fuck your money Okay, now that we have a handle on what this quote believes and how they operate Let's let's dive into the timeline of the greatest love story ever known on heaven or earth. How lucky are we to be alive right now? during the age of the divine Jeff and Shalia divine
Starting point is 01:27:35 Shrap on those boots soldier. We're marching down a time suck timeline I am the suck of time, line. I am the suck of time, line. I am the suck of time, line. I am the suck of time, line. I am the suck of time, line. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada.
Starting point is 01:27:53 On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada.
Starting point is 01:28:01 On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. On September 14th, 1984, Shalea is born Megan Plant in Ontario, Canada. I've watched numerous videos where she says her name and she fucks her own name up on a regular basis. Like sometimes she says Shalia but a lot of times she says Shalia. Like definitely throws an M in there, even though there's no M in her fucking made up name. You fucking weird bobblehead fuck. And yes, I do keep saying bobblehead because she looks like she has a bobblehead in a lot of her videos.
Starting point is 01:28:20 I normally try not to shit on people's physical appearances, but she's such a soulless just disgusting pilot shit. I don't think I should have to worry about her in her feelings. Watching the Netflix documentaries, Lindsay and I both felt like her head was distractingly large. Actually, just her face, her face to size to body size ratio is unusual, especially when she's younger and thinner. She looks like a brass doll with a very round, like a perfectly round, very large face on a small body. And the Bible thinks she just often sit in the background. She just kind of shake her head, yes,
Starting point is 01:28:51 to agree with whatever Jeff Jesus says. She looks kind of half checked out. Maybe those in cells the other week were on to something when they talked about a large school, being important when it comes to physical attractiveness. Maybe that's how she attracted Jeff Jesus, right? This God on earth could obviously have anyone, but he was attracted to Shaleia to fucking Megan because she schoolmogged the shit out of the competition. Perhaps her face has his own gravitational pull, she just, you
Starting point is 01:29:15 know, sucked him right in. Megan was raised by a Catholic family and her father William said that when she was a kid, she would go to the motions of the face because she desperately wanted to believe in something greater and grander, but it really wasn't for her, right? She wanted something where she was more of the focal point. When Megan was 10, her parents got divorced two years later when she was 12, dad immigrated to the US. We know very little about this part of Shalia's life.
Starting point is 01:29:38 William was saying in his interview in the Amazon documentary that when Shalia was 15, her mom did pass away from cancer. Obviously, such an important death is going to affect her greatly. April 5th, 1988, Jeffery Ion born in Lapear, Michigan, also to a Catholic family. Growing up, Jeff was unsurprisingly outgoing, energetic, funny, okay, often described as charming,
Starting point is 01:30:03 seemed he had a sort of magnetism that drew people in, made them want to hear what he had to say. An advice article, Jeff's childhood friend, Eric Rogers said that, especially in high school, Jeff was obsessed with the idea of self-improvement, constantly seeking out coaches and mentors, and people that could fast track him to the good life.
Starting point is 01:30:17 So clearly took some notes on how some of these people made their money. Maybe he thought, hey, this is bullshit. This is grift. Maybe I could do something like this. He was also apparently particularly fasting with American businessman Warren Buffett. Desperately wanted to make a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:30:34 And you know what many of us do? Or have it some point wanted that in our lives. But he was like, he was especially focused on it and not really normal for a high school kid to read a bunch of Warren Buffett's books. As a youngster, he was also involved in theater, not surprising for a very dramatic person. Also on the swim team, participated in school talent shows, appears in old videos as a sort of a class clown type.
Starting point is 01:30:57 He did a lot, was involved in a lot, but was never really exceptional at what he did. He was never the best at anything, but was down to try anything and could do a lot of different things. It seems like his most consistent interest was finding a way to get rich quick. From 2006, 2010, Jeff studies human resource management at Western Michigan University, Hawthorne College of Business, his only formal higher education. Around this time in 2009, Shalia, still going by Megan, study photography at Laurentian University in Ontario, Canada, according to her old LinkedIn profile, unclear whether or not she completed her degree.
Starting point is 01:31:31 After graduating 2011, Jeff moves to Hilo Hawaii, changes his name to Ender Ian Ethos, of course, starts a blog called Ender's Adventures. Here we go, right? Here's where this fucking dangerous narcissistic weirdo starts running his real grifts. Barely a year out of college, and he's already a con man. Eric Rogers, that childhood friend, said that Jeff loved the book Ender's Game, and then he probably got the idea for the name from that. And Ender's Game is a 1985 military science fiction novel.
Starting point is 01:31:58 First in a series of five books published between 85 and 2008, the first of which was later adapted into a 2013 sci-fi action film about an unusually gifted child sent to an advanced military academy in space to prepare for a future alien invasion. The character of Andy Ender, excuse me, is a child prodigy. Perhaps the best mind for military strategy in all universe. And I bet Jeff Wright saw himself as a prodigy of sorts before you know, prodigy then profit. A once in a generation mind, a once in a history, special soul, the most special ever. Jeff's friend Eric said that the transformation from Jeff to Andrew was not the first time
Starting point is 01:32:34 that Jeff insisted on being called a different name. Previously, he'd cycle through multiple name options and for each one, he would post shit online like, this is my one true name, the only one I will now respond to. And then change it again later. I feel like this is my one true name the only one I will now respond to Huh and then change it again later. I feel like this guy has no real core identity Right, I can't social path of that. Just a powerful desire to be wealthy to be looked at as someone so smart a Prodigy a God so powerful He's willing to become you know, whatever he needs to become to achieve that Whatever to do whatever he needs to do to people Unfortunately the website for Enders Adventures no longer exists, but thanks to one of the world's greatest inventions,
Starting point is 01:33:09 the nonprofit Wayback Machine. We were able to take a look at an archived version of the site from April 2012. So what was Enders Adventures? According to the website's old mission page, my mission is to inspire you through example to live a conscious heart centered lifestyle now by mission I mean it is my highest priority in life everything I do in my life is centered around the support of this priority I forgot who I talk to like almost like a weird surf or boy, but inspire you I mean I'm gonna live a conscious heart centered lifestyle now, which is exciting and interesting enough for you to want to redefine and realign your own way of living and continue experiencing the adventure with me.
Starting point is 01:33:50 By through example, I mean that with my whole self, I'm going to create the best content. I'm capable of to share with you the story of our unfolding adventure. By to live, I mean really living, not just going through the motions. I mean, waking up every morning and feeling excited and passionate about what we're wanting to do this day. I mean, feeling at peace about the thoughts and feelings going on inside ourselves. I mean, knowing, like really knowing that there's more than enough for all of us to have exactly what we truly want.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Yeah, just all, yeah, very super positive, great. By May 27, 2012, which is the next available capture of the NowDelete website, in addition to the original menu selections, home, donate, about, enter, contact enter, our mission adventures, lifestyle design and blog, Jeff's added two more options, coaching and making money online. It was at this point that Jeff had started trying to brand himself as not only a lifestyle guru, but as a lifestyle coach. Right. He'd been building up to all the shit he'll pull in the Twin Flames universe for years. The introduction to the coaching tab reads, feeling stuck, need a little extra energy to
Starting point is 01:34:57 get yourself out of that rut on fire already and want to take yourself to the next level. Wanting to make a lasting change in your life or test out a new lifestyle design experiment? Get one-on-one coaching with Ender and bring yourself to a whole new level of vibrance. Some specific things Ender can help you with. Feels like one of my fucking fake ads. Improve your health and fitness, no matter your current level. General improvement of your attitude in state of mind for a more positive life experience. Easy transitions to vegetarian, vegan gourmet raw or low fat raw food. Dice, starting to do business or improving on the existing one. Turning your skills into income, developing yourself into the person who attracts your dream guy or gal. Repairing for a successful lifestyle design experiment, getting yourself out of a rut and feeling
Starting point is 01:35:46 good and enthusiastic about life again, and finally, goal achievement. By the end of the session, you will have a clear review of what's blocking you and an action plan on how to move through it. And hopefully, some of that positivity and enthusiasm will have rubbed off on you too. Your satisfaction is guaranteed. If you're not super pleased with your experience, simply email Ender for a full refund. I should have put some fucking 90s
Starting point is 01:36:09 in for commercial music behind it. So what this tells us is that Jeff has been claiming for years to have the power to heal depression, cure physical ailments, teach people how to start and run a business, set you up with a person in your dreams, generally be able to make anything in the known and unknown universe fucking happen for you if you give him enough money so cool Crazed at someone who maybe has a degree in human resource management from Western Michigan University
Starting point is 01:36:32 could quickly become an expert in so many different things God man Western Michigan University must offer the most robust comprehensive core curriculum Right because this guy can get you fit and healthy regardless of what else you. So he's a medical doctor, I guess, and a physical therapist and a nutritionist. And he's a business consultant, right? Fucking straight up one eight hundred business. You fucking profits, losses, stocks, uh, makes sense with all of his business experience studying human resource management from Western Michigan University. Probably had a work study job where he learned anything and everything anyone could possibly ever know about business And he's apparently a relationship coach or pick-up artist or something
Starting point is 01:37:10 I mean, I mean you take one look at him and it's obvious this guy this guy is a stud Sure to some he may come across as very punchable little risted Melvin who looks like he's about five seven maybe 130 pounds Someone who could be and should be easily stuffed into trash cans on a regular basis, but to the more perceptive eye, he's a giga-chat, hiding within a Melvin's bone structure. What exactly he was changing, or charging, excuse me, for all these services in 2009, we don't know because the cost of the coaching sessions
Starting point is 01:37:39 not listed on the site. Sometime in 2012, Jeff and Shalia meet on Facebook now through a mutual friend. Oh, it was beginning of the love story. The greatest one ever. Jeff describes their first online interaction in their book, Twin Flames, Finding Your Ultimate Lover in, not the best way, in a less than flattering way, writing, she messaged me, sorry, she messaged me that night, You horny? I blinked at my computer screen.
Starting point is 01:38:06 This woman is ridiculous. Always. I replied while brushing her off. What kind of woman messages a man for the first time like that? She doesn't even know me. Of course, we've been Facebook friends for a year. I commented something on a few of her photos. For instance, I thought she was weirdly sexy. But really, that's all that came of it. And now this, I have so many other women interested in me and she doesn't look like America's next top model. It's kind of such a fucking douchebag. Imagine your partner describing that this is how they met you.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Honestly, I'm like, I'm like surprised as fuck that we got together because, yeah, I was like getting all these dimes hitting me up like 24-7, just wanted to feast on this like, primo dick, and then she DMs me and I'm like, I'm like even surprised I replied really, because she's like maybe a six at best, and I don't normally fuck with like big headed low tier normie backies and shit, but she was like so desperate, just so thirsty, and I guess like weirdly sexy in a freak show kind of way, so I thought, yeah, why not? I might as well toss her these nuts and see what she can do with them, yo. Jeff, Jesus, doosh canoe.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Now writes, but the conversation continued. And before I realized, I didn't even have a chance of shaking off his connection. I ignored her best I could, but she wanted me to pursue her. I thought to myself, yeah, tough luck, cookies. I'm busy with nine million other women pursuing me. Why would I make it harder on myself than it needs to be? But the conversation with her continued. And within 30 minutes of talking to her,
Starting point is 01:39:35 I had done something I had never done before. In my 26 years of babe hunting, I asked her to marry me. Oh man, this fucking hunk, This fucking babe hunting giga chat. Who says babe hunting, by the way? Has like nine million other women pursuing him. Oh fuck yeah, bro. Nice. After four months of chatting online,
Starting point is 01:39:56 and Shalea apparently charming him with her psychic abilities and tarot card readings. Right, running griffs. That's his love language. They decided to meet in person, where Shalea was now living in Sedona, Arizona. This time, Jeff was running his Ender's Adventures, Life Coaching, Travel Vlog, as well as running a vegetarian Airbnb out of a shack in the Hawaiian jungle that he supposedly built himself. Shalia had only recently moved to Sedona from Canada earlier that year.
Starting point is 01:40:19 He was working in the hair salon and of course, you know, studying under a spiritual teacher. She had also gotten out of a relationship. Just gotten out of one with a man named Jake. working on the hair salon. And of course, you know, studying under a spiritual teacher. She had also gotten out of a relationship, just gotten out of one with a man named Jake, who she said she was deceived into believing was her twin flame for a while. Wait, what, what? I thought you had divine gift, defined people's twin flames.
Starting point is 01:40:39 How was she tricked? Is it possible? Is it possible that all of this is utter madness? Her description of this poor man, her false twin flame Jake, and her Jeff's books is something I want to share with you. He was a stereotypical attractive hippie guy who seemed to be on the leading edge of New Age thought
Starting point is 01:40:56 or so I projected. He claimed to be an amazing triple aquarium sign who only ate super foods and it was into wearing energy medicine necklaces. Yeah. He also assisted in putting together conscious festivals across the West Coast circuit. Jake presented to be a highly evolved conscious man who would keep up with my spiritual growth and path because he was diligently on his. Oh man, this fuck this fucker. He claimed to be a triple aquarium, but he was like a double aquarium at best
Starting point is 01:41:28 Tip, you know what? He was a typical as I like to say as I've often said. He was a typical Aquar hole Which is which isn't a query nassel if you're not as enlightened as I am if your vibrations aren't as fucking frequent as mine Uh, Jake revealed himself to be a false stereotypical attractive hippie guy, and she really was heartbroken. That was of course until she sent that fateful unsolicited sex to Jeff, and she fucking DM'd her twin flame. When they met for the first time in person in a comfort-in parking lot, oh hell yeah. She lear out, she felt humbled that I had manifested such a deeply loving, spiritual, and physically gorgeous man.
Starting point is 01:42:03 After getting Jeff settled into his motel room and unwrapping and then sucking the skin off his dick or something like that I'm guessing, the two left first Shalea's house, where she cooked him dinner, the foxes brains out and adjourned to the porch. There, the couple chatted in held hands until the moon and stars were shining brightly
Starting point is 01:42:21 in the desert sky and the UFOs were buzzing about the vortexes. Okay, that's literally what they wrote. They just held hands until the UFOs were buzzing around, you know, and they're in the vortexes as they do. Cool, cool story, bro. Jeff stayed in Sedona for a few weeks until the two decided to move back to Hawaii together. They're, they started a new blog, a new grift called Awakened Into Macy, which unfortunately we can't find archive versions of. I imagine the content they posted, not that different than the bullshit they're spewing now, jump it forward. A couple of years now, 2015, uh, Jeff and Shalea moving with Jess parents, Michigan. Oh, fuck yeah. Kill in the game. Clear these, these two scammers have not honed their griff yet. This housing situation will be short lived for unknown reasons,
Starting point is 01:43:03 although it's pretty easy to guess why, Jess parents kicked them out of the house. Guessing that Jess parents weren't into their career choice and got a little sick of all the vibration and vortex and frequency talk and couldn't accept, you know, their dipshit son trying to pass himself off as a guru or God while just looking like a two-bit scammer, you know, Munchenoff's parents. Jeff and Shaleigh are now posted on Facebook telling friends that they were desperately in need of a place to live, although they weren't that close anymore, Eric Rogers wanted to help his old child friend, uh, old childhood friend
Starting point is 01:43:32 out. And he offered to let the twin flame couple stay with him. In an interview, Eric said, normal is not a word I would use to describe that part of my life when Jeff and Shalea live with me. They ate hot dogs three meals a day. Breakfast lunch dinner were hot dogs. Sounds like Tyler's dream. I haven't eaten a hot dog since 2015. I can't do it. What?
Starting point is 01:43:56 Hot dogs? Three times a day. I mean, I like a hot dog. I like, I enjoy a nice kosher ballpark prank. But three a day every day. Did I have something to do with your spiritual journey? Like, how did Jeff go so quickly from being a health and fitness coach to Mr. I mostly live on hot dogs. While living with Eric, Jeff and Shaleia still have their awakened intimacy blog.
Starting point is 01:44:16 And we're also now starting to post on YouTube about mostly hot dogs. Uh, they launched a new channel called hot dog life where they believe you try to sell followers on a hot dog center lifestyle where your diet would be 80% plus hot dogs. They launched a new channel called Hot Dog Life, where they believe you try to sell followers on a hot dog centered lifestyle, where your diet would be 80% plus hot dog. And if you can stay on a mostly hot dog path for somewhere between 60 and 90 days, your body would start to break down and release these malnourishment chemicals
Starting point is 01:44:38 that would open up your third eye and cause you to hallucinate, harden out to be able to commune with the Almighty. What did I say to their channel was called? I meant to say it was called a hot dog in it to heaven. Jeff and Julia were certain that they found a strange hot dog shortcut to celestial wisdom. And they preach the true ultimate sacrament.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Sacrament was not wine, but it was hot dogs. And the cheaper the better, real slaughterhouse floor stuff. And they would begin to live streamed sermons by shouting, the power of the hot dog compels you, the power of the hot dog compels you the power of the hot dog compels you the power of the hot dog compels you to keep stuff in that rap me down your gullipad. I'm not pretty sure they didn't go quite that hard on hot dogs. They were starting to post on YouTube content regarding that they were now already calling their what they were now already calling their harmonious twin flame union ending videos with the glassy.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Don't forget to like and subscribe. And then one day Jeff was talking to Eric on his back porch and told his childhood friend he had his next big business idea. He told Eric, you know how physical illness are all basically caused by some trauma from childhood? Well, I found out that I have a gift. I can talk to people and I can draw out this mental trauma. I had my first client just last night,
Starting point is 01:45:47 and we had a great 20-minute session on Facebook Messenger, and I cured her of multiple sclerosis. Oh, fuck. I love how he suggested physical illness is always caused by childhood trauma, as if that's just common knowledge everyone knows. Hey, you know how in medical school, doctors are taught mostly to focus on patients' childhood trauma when it comes to diagnosing and treating illness. Doctor, I thought I was
Starting point is 01:46:09 maybe going to get some blood drawn today for some tests or have an MRI and X-rays. And so we can give you the bottom what's going on. What? No, that's just what doctors on TV's do, dude. Real doctors, just talk about your childhood. Tell me who hurt you and how and that'll give me the answers I need. Jeff now launches another website business called Jeff Ion Spiritual Healer, where he advertises that he can cure any physical illness or ailment including cancer, this piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Gryfters should go to fucking prison for life for pretending to cure illnesses like that, right? This shit gets people killed. And a shocking amount of people I've looked to online over the last five or six years do this. Prices for a spiritual healing dependant on how severe the illness is, right? Dependent starting at $30 to cure a headache.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Jesus. And the Amazon documentary Eric spoke about how another friend from high school who had lost her mom to cancer commented on one of Jeff's Facebook posts about this shit. She wrote that it felt like Jeff was taking advantage of people in their most vulnerable moment, which he was to which he replied, I'm very sorry that I did not have my gift in high school.
Starting point is 01:47:12 So I could not have cured your mother's head. How hateable is this guy right now? And Shaleia completely supporting all of this. Eric then kicked Jeff and Shaleia out of his house for good. Hail Nimrod, well done, Eric. That was a right call. 2016, Jeff and Shalea sealed their harmonious twin flame union by getting married.
Starting point is 01:47:31 Crazy that they waited, you know, for four years. When they knew their harmonious twin flames, destined to be together eternally. 2017, after two years of posting videos online, Jeff and Shalea officially create slash legitimized twin flame universe as a community organization offering spiritual healing services. They also start training certified ascension coaches,
Starting point is 01:47:51 having already built a bit of a fan base through awakened intimacy in their YouTube channel, which you know, some videos did receive over 100,000 views. Right off the bat, the Facebook group and Google Meet classes are filled with people. Members, you know, getting screwed over right off the bat. One former member spoke device about how he left in late 2017 after Jeff's scam timmed him into making music for the Twin Flames Ascension School for free.
Starting point is 01:48:15 On December 30, 2018, the cult holds the first in-person workshop of the Twin Flames Ascension School in New York City. One former member referred to his Sarah said she'd been planning a small get together in New York with some friends from the group, some girlfriends. And then Jeff Kotte, Wind of it, hijacked it, made it his own. The workshop started with everyone sharing an own with Jeff and Celia. It was during this workshop that Marley, right,
Starting point is 01:48:38 the certified ascension coach, Keeley's, or Marley, certified ascension coach, Keeley's 19 year old younger sister, was told her twin flame was a man in the Facebook group that she'd never met before, right? The guy we talked about as fucking creepy, how, uh, you know, she was crying at the next thing. Let's see how this began.
Starting point is 01:48:54 One night at the Airbnb, the group had rented for the weekend. Everyone joined hands to call Marley's twin flame into existence, right? Or be revealed. The next day during the actual workshop, Jeff calls her out from the audience asked if she's met anyone since they summoned her ultimate lover as a group. And she's like, no, I haven't. From the stage, like a sleazy Las Vegas magician about to perform his big finale trick, Jeff asks her mysteriously, do you have your phone on you, Marley? She nods. Jeff coerces her into sharing with the audience what she had previously told Shalea that a man she didn't know in the Twin Flames Facebook group had been messaging
Starting point is 01:49:28 her links, messaging her links to music videos. Jeff then tells her to recite the lyrics of the most recent song he had sent, which ended with, will you say that I am yours? When she's done, Jeff very triumphantly and benevolently says, Marley, what is the name of your twin flame? Now we know from earlier, the name is Joshua, 11 years older than her unemployed, severe mental illness, right? Fucking stomach stranger. She thinks looks creepy criminal record. According to Jeff, you know, no, this is your twin flame. She does not seem excited. 2018, Jeff starts a new business venture called
Starting point is 01:50:05 the Mind Alignment Process or MAP. MAPS, the program within twin flames universe that purports to help members heal their trauma in order to pursue and cultivate their harmonious twin flame union. Jeff founded MAP in corporate with a member of the cult, Dr. Christine Emmerich. Dr. Emmerich, a retired US Army lieutenant colonel who did serve in Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2004, 2005, not a medical doctor that would be clear. Doesn't have a doctorate in the field of psychology or some form of therapy or science.
Starting point is 01:50:35 Now she earned her PhD in public safety leadership. So a field that has fuck all to do with anything related to mind alignment, whatever that is. On her bio on the map website, it says Dr Dr. Emrick received her mind alignment process healing session to heal trauma from war and childhood abuse in 2017. Since her map healing session, Dr. Emrick has dedicated her life to bringing map to the world. You can learn more about her map journey below. So what training, exactly, did she receive? Well, she, she went through a map session. That's it. Nothing more. She went through a session of something Jeff pulled out of his ass based in New
Starting point is 01:51:11 Age gibberish. And now boom, she's an important healer of PTSD and more. It's that easy, motherfucker. Jeff's bio on the map website reads, Jeff Divine earned his professional designation in business as an entrepreneur, he has founded multiple successful businesses with a unique understanding of trauma in the mind. Jeff developed a mind alignment process after years of helping people successfully heal from the effects of trauma.
Starting point is 01:51:36 So what qualifies him to be your therapist? Well, he has a unique understanding of trauma in the mind. That's not enough for you. How about you seek help around the corner at the University of Goh Fuck yourself. If you're a person that struggles with trauma for the love of God, please do not fucking go to someone whose only qualification is that they have
Starting point is 01:51:53 a unique understanding of the mind. Go to a doctor, a real fucking doctor. They studied at a real accredited institution of higher education, right? And studied something related to therapy, not public safety leadership. Although the map site now has a disclaimer, stating it cannot cure any form of mental disorder, only support those who suffer from them in its inception.
Starting point is 01:52:12 Excuse me, Jeff claimed every client would get everything they require to fully heal their PTSD in one one hour session. That's that powerful. In addition, Jeff and Dr. Emmerich, map has a staff of six map practitioners, and it's currently hiring an administrative assistant to add to the team if you're looking for a job. It should also be noted that every single one of them is also either certified ascension coach or work in another department of the Twin Flame Universe ascension school. So what qualifies these other people to treat your trauma? Well, map practitioner,
Starting point is 01:52:44 Madu speaks English and Hindi and has an educational background in engineering. So, you know, that's pretty cool. That's good qualification. Matt practitioner, Lorenzo, has always been interested in the art of healing. And is a victim of childhood trauma himself. So, you know, interested in healing, very qualified. Imagine seeing a therapist with a qualification like that. So where did you go to school? School? No, I didn't go anywhere.
Starting point is 01:53:12 I've just always been fascinated by mental illness. Matt practitioner, Kristi has always felt the desire in her heart to support others and feeling a piece again. So that's cool. Matt practitioner, Adam has extensive experience and knowledge of topics concerning children and adults with disabilities. What a fucking ace staff, top shelf. Absolutely nothing, qualifies any of these dipshits to treat your trauma.
Starting point is 01:53:34 But let's say for some reason, you still wanna participate, good news. The 12 week map healing program, which includes one welcome consultation, one map healing session, 12 weekly, one hour after map care meetings, one after map support session, 12 weekly one hour after map care meetings, one after map support session, 12 weekly online check ins from your practitioner and access
Starting point is 01:53:50 to an invite only twin flame universe map healing private Facebook forum is on sale for a limited time only. Right now you can get all that crazy for just $1,129. What a deal. So much healing all your PTSD gone forever for less than $1,129. What a deal. So much healing. All your PTSD gone forever for less than $1,200. 2019, Jeff and Shalee create another important galaxy in the Twin Flames universe, the Church of Union.
Starting point is 01:54:15 The Church of Union basically the Twin Flames ascension universe, ascension school, just packaged, marketed differently. It operates entirely online instead of classes on Google Meet four times a week. It offers Sunday services on Google Meet that are then posted to YouTube. On the front page of the church's website,
Starting point is 01:54:31 it says, as unionists are goal is to create heaven on earth. This is all for tax reasons, I'm sure. This is also not to pay taxes. As unionists are goal is to create heaven on earth or the optimal reality. Through each, I feel like this needs music. Through each are own personal connection to God and knowing His finest creation you. This results in wonderful joyful, fulfilling, satisfying and meaningful life, whether you have a child
Starting point is 01:54:57 of the most high God. It also revolves, excuse me, resolves, all the underlying causes of suffering and misery that so many of us end up experiencing as results of living based upon the unconscious thought system of the world. Results are immediate, developed, devolved, and deep and over time, and sustained indefinitely. Unionists all over the world are already experiencing the profound transcendental, healing and transformative power of unionism. Click on any subject below to expand the page and learn more.
Starting point is 01:55:33 Holy shit! Do you want a wonderful, joyful, fulfilling, satisfying, meaningful life? Or do you want to keep suffering? You don't be fuck. Coming as a surprise to no one, the church's ministers also are certified ascension coaches and map practitioners It's all the same people do the same dumb shit February 5th 2020 vice news publishers and article titled this YouTube school promised love Students say they got exploited instead. This is the first time a major media outlet has accused the twin flame universe of being a cult and
Starting point is 01:56:03 Subsequently that Jeff and Shalee are cult leaders former member Lenei Birchell is outspoken in the article and said that after Jeff and Shalee confirmed that her crush a married guy who she met at the gym was indeed a twin flame and that they were destined to be together She quickly became a dedicated follower after repeated spiritual exercises That seemed to encourage fixation She said she showed up at his work that seemed to encourage fixation. She said she showed up at his work uninvited to prove her alignment with love and God
Starting point is 01:56:28 and he was not happy to see her. Bertel now counts herself lucky that she was never arrested or subject to a restraining order. Also around this time, Jeff starts to claim that he was Jesus. And how did he come to understand this? Well, because he looks a lot like common illustrations of Jesus. On this video, he holds up a common depiction
Starting point is 01:56:53 of like illustration of Jesus. That is not even remotely historically accurate. Fine brown-haired, blue-eyed, fair-skinned Jesus. You know, the look of a Jewish man who did not fucking exist in Nazareth two thousand years ago, highly unlikely he had blue eyes, he did not have fine flowing locks around here in fair skin. And Jeff, who clearly grew his hair out and intentionally tried to make himself look
Starting point is 01:57:16 exactly like this depiction, now claims on video that he doesn't look like Jesus, Jesus looks like him. And obviously, this is a sign that Jeff lived 2000 years ago and that he was a son of God, he was crucified. He is God and now he's back. Let's finally hear from him a bit in this video to followers where this is a different video. That one was from the docuSeries. This is another one where he's talking to followers
Starting point is 01:57:44 about how he is being Jesus or how he's Jesus. I'm Jeff. Today we're going to talk about how Christ come again. He's got the beard and the hair and, you know, blue eyes. Yes, I'm suggesting that could I be the Christ? Let's have a little discussion about this. Let's find out. What is it that makes Christ? What would happen if Christ came again? And more interestingly, what if I am the Christ? When you think about Christ coming again, you think about Jesus coming again, but Doesn't really talk about necessarily Jesus coming again could be Jeff talks about This man and a white revelation talks about this right this man on a white horse
Starting point is 01:58:38 flanked by a bunch of people and on his coat is It says King of kings and on his coat is, it says King of Kings. Surprise. Who is that? I'm surprised he's not wearing a coat that says King of Kings in this video. And he's fucking babbles on. He's a little more subdued here than some other video.
Starting point is 01:58:54 So he kind of bounces around a lot in his the way he talks. But June 23rd, 2020 now, Jeff and Shalea, file a defamation lawsuit against four members of the cult and parents of current members, including Stephanie's mother Luis Cole, who spoke out against twin flames universe in the vice article We were able to track down the lawsuit and as ridiculous as what I'm about to read sound just keep in mind This is an actual government document filed with our actual American judicial system
Starting point is 01:59:17 specifically the United States Eastern District of Michigan court First things first under the nature of the case section The lawsuit defines the twin flames universe says twin flames universe operates a set of organizations devoted to spiritual wellness, relationship guidance and self love through harmonious connection to one's twin flame, i.e. your true love or divine counterpart, and which also promote alternative healing and personal lifestyle wellness programs. Mr and and Mrs. Iron are twin flames, spiritual teachers and the founders of TFU.
Starting point is 01:59:48 Twin flames universe promotes its services through online educational programs, in-person workshops and one-on-one consultations. Now it outlines how the plaintiffs, the godly and perfect, Jeff and Shalia Iron, discovered an evil plan formulated by conniving, sinful, probably a state level 5.2 or higher dark soul demonic zombie former members.
Starting point is 02:00:08 The Lost 2 states, as I read it to the people's court theme music because I fucking love so much this little ditty and it feels fitting. The Plaintiffs Have learned of a conspiracy by a few disgruntled former twin flames universe students and or volunteers. To smear plaintiffs reputation and create a false misleading and defamatory image of plaintiffs, business practices, and spirituality. Defendants, commence the pattern of online harassment
Starting point is 02:00:34 and disparagement via websites such as Twitter, Reddit, and Facebook, and via their own websites in an effort to dissuade plaintiffs, prospective customers from doing business with plaintiffs, by falsely painting as abusive, manipulative, scammers, and practitioners of illegal psychotherapy. First, defendants opened defamed plaintiffs in public-reddit posts, and Facebook groups dedicated to Twin Flames Universe. Defenders recently banded together again to amplify their negativity by lying to a report
Starting point is 02:01:01 of a vice-medium. As a part of their scheme and conspiracy, defendants collectively convinced the vice-media reported to publish a fantastical and false account of defendant's experiences with plaintiffs and Michigan, which painted an impressionist caricature of twin-flamed universes' actual business and was otherwise filled with outright misleading statements and lies. So what kind of justice? Where we're the good and wholesome and definitely not cult leaders, Jeff and Shalia seeking in return for the heinous wrongdoings of those who sought to destroy them,
Starting point is 02:01:33 you guessed it, money, lot of it. The lawsuit states that the perpetuation of the conspiracy that twin flames universe is a cult calls for preliminary and permanent injuctive relief and recovery of damages. Arising from acts of tortuous interference, defamation, trade, libel, and civil conspiracy and connection with. Into Alia, defendant scheme to be smurged plaintiffs by making certain misleading and defamatory statements concerning the business across the internet and contributing to and then falsely disseminating a vice-media news article which repeated their unsubstantiated and demonstrably false statements.
Starting point is 02:02:09 Bites of seek injuctive relief damages, statutory damages, punitive damages, and recovery of their costs and reasonable attorney fees. God, how fun is that music? Also in 2020. Jeff and Shillie, I like the energy of that music. Jeff and Shillie start yet another twin flame universe off-shoot business, a divine dish. So much more stupid.
Starting point is 02:02:31 They have a great log line, food for the God conscious. In order to attract your twin flame, and achieve harmonious twin flame union, you have to eat so many hot dogs. Divine dish, not a meal delivery service, it's a weekly meal plan, cultivated by twin flame universe members, so not chefs, and delivered right to your email. To receive the meal plans and accompanying recipes, it just costs $179 per month.
Starting point is 02:02:52 Or you can just go online and get other free recipes, whatever. Shockingly, the chefs that curate each meal plan are also certified ascension coaches, map practitioners, and church of union ministers. They just keep giving them more jobs. According to the website, Divine Dishes Mission is to support your spiritual life through food and to help you deepen your relationship with food in your body.
Starting point is 02:03:12 You won't ever have to worry about not eating enough, binge eating or malnourishment. Divine Dishes provides you with professional chef curated gourmet quality meals that you can cook for yourself and your family. When you invest in Divine Dishes, you will only ever feel spiritually, mentally, physically, and emotionally fulfilled by your food. Okay, so now twin flames universe can not only cure your PTSD and any mental illness or physical ailment you suffer
Starting point is 02:03:34 from, but it can also treat eating disorders. In the Netflix documentary several former members talked about how insanely unhealthy this meal plan was. One woman, Keeley, she put on 75 pounds in nine months. Jeff insisted that the coaches, mostly small women, all follow the same high calorie diets. It's not customized for anybody. And then talks about Shalea gaining weight since they first started dating
Starting point is 02:03:56 and he's, you know, finds her a sexier than ever more attracted. So Jeff, you know, whatever, clearly likes bigger women. So now all his female followers got to plump up. This guy's so dangerous in so many ways. 2021, Jeff and Shaleigh's bullshit lawsuit gets dismissed because it's nonsense. But only after the defendant spend over 30 fucking grand and lawyer fees, jumping ahead to this here now, April 27th, 2023, Jeff and, all right, sorry, last year, I'm still in 2023.
Starting point is 02:04:23 I record this, but I know you're here in this 2024. April 27th, 2023, Jeff and Shalea welcome the third member of their harmonious twin flame union, their daughter Grace. Oh yeah, now these fucking dimension morons are parents now. For years and years leading up to their daughter's birth, Jeff and Shalea have been telling their followers about how their daughter was destined to become the most highly ascended baby of all time during one class. Shaleia told followers that she and Jeff went through IVF, but not for infertility reasons.
Starting point is 02:04:55 They did it because they, quote, wanted to make sure Grace got the right body for her genre wise. What? Like what the fuck are they even talking about there? You can't do that with the whole designer baby thing. Yeah, you can't build a giga chat or a giga stacey in a test tube. That was just a complete nonsense. Since they met in 2012, Jeff and Shalea said that they had had a spiritual connection with
Starting point is 02:05:19 the soul of their future daughter who would become their third twin flame. This gets so weird. They told their students that on earth, their daughter would be a virgin eternal in the mortal sense because her twin flames are gonna be her parents. Uh-huh, this poor kid is doomed. Because their spiritual beliefs are protected by laws regarding the right to freely express ones
Starting point is 02:05:38 religious notions, the state cannot take this child away. Unfortunately, from them, for being blatant, dangerous dipshit wacky doodles. Jeff has explained that since the only sex you should have is with your twin flame, and since their daughter can have sex with her parents, her only sexual partner will be God. Totally. But isn't, isn't he God?
Starting point is 02:05:59 Where is this heading? How is she going to feel about all this? How is Jeff going to react when his precious baby girl third flame fuck some local high school drug dealer as an active rebellion when she's 15? How's that going to be woven into his theology? In another video, speaking about their daughter, prior to even being pregnant, Jeff says our third twin flame is so called celibate because she can satisfy herself completely and give herself all the sex she needs.
Starting point is 02:06:23 And then fucking Shaleea Bobblehead nods and interjects with, yeah, we've been talking about that. So cool. You've been talking to your unborn child about how she's gonna be free to flick her bean to her heart's content. Yeah, that's nothing crazy about that at all. During the couple years leading up to Jeff and Shalea
Starting point is 02:06:43 finally getting pregnant, Grace, their future daughter will be brought up a lot Because Shalea was destined to carry the super spiritually advanced baby It was paramount in the cult that no one do anything to distress or disturb her If someone made a mistake or did something that irritated Jeff and Shalea they'd be chastised for harming or killing Shalea Therefore injuring this baby who hadn't been conceived yet How how fucking pissed off with anyone listening who say struggling to pay rent knowing that these fucking idiots have made millions off this bullshit. How upset is anyone having trouble getting pregnant
Starting point is 02:07:14 knowing these dipshits made a baby. Oh my god. Right around the time. Excuse me, right around the time they have their third flame, Jeff and Shalia also start talking to followers about a true cult compound in Michigan, right? Cult, cult, cult. They found some giant 300 person event hall for sale on this huge piece of land. They never say how many acres it is. They don't actually buy it. They're just talking about buying this place where the most successful other twin flame
Starting point is 02:07:39 universe coaches, those making the most money for them will be expected to live near their big house on this land in various trailers while they labor for free. Of course, to turn this big property into a farm where they'll eventually grow enough food and raise enough livestock to be self-sustaining, like a true compound. Jeff Jesus told his followers that it was, quote, his divine birth right to have this property. Also all female TFU members who move here will be expected to get pregnant, to give birth to this army of so-called golden children. And golden children are children who apparently are already ascended. They're vibrating at a high frequency. The
Starting point is 02:08:15 moment they leave the womb, their twin flames will, you know, have to be other golden children, of course. And initially, it was communicated that any couple not able to physically produce a child together will have the opportunity to utilize another group member of their choosing to provide sperm for them. But then very quickly Jeff shoots this down and decides now only he will decide who gets to father these golden children. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:08:42 I think we can all see where this seems to be heading, can't we? I mean, the writing on the cult wall pretty clear from me. We've seen this so many times now. Jeff is trying to a, get the cults to buy this farm for him, b, get his most devoted cult members to live on this farm with him, c, keep these members confused with more new age gibberish ascension talk, keep them tired by having them work long hours, converting the land to work in farm, keep them more more isolated than ever from the rest of the world by spending
Starting point is 02:09:08 only time with fellow cult members even they're not online and then finally D once everyone has been living on this farm for a bit they've been physically isolated from the rest of the world for a while and even more indoctrinated into all this manipulative brainwashing bullshit than they already are that's when Jeff realizes that it is his divine duty to fuck his followers while they wait for some apocalyptic event. Cult, cult, cult, the final mature foam October 6, 2023. Three-part docu-series desperately seeking a soulmate escaping twin flames universe ares on Amazon Prime. November 8, 2023, 2023 Netflix releases its series escaping twin flames.
Starting point is 02:09:48 November 13th twin flames universe publishes a statement on their website and post on social media in response to the many media outlets and streaming platforms that are now referring to them as a cult. It's not worth reading the whole thing. It's just a bunch of defensive combative statements, strong together, smothered in spiritual language, sprinkle with sugary sweet platitudes, but here is at least, you know, a little portion of it. We'd like to emphasize that our educational content and methodologies are tailored to provide a unique path for both personal and spiritual development and fulfillment. We recognize our methods may not align with everyone's unique beliefs or needs, and we honor the freedom of individuals to explore other options. They best feel elevate their spiritual wellbeing.
Starting point is 02:10:28 We take seriously recent allegations implying we wield inappropriate control over our community members. After a careful review of both media coverage and recent productions, we are saddened that so much effort has gone into taking swipes at an organization and community founded on love and mutual respect. The allegations levied against twin-flamed universe, not only to store our true aims, methods and curriculums, but also to misrepresent the autonomy of our community members, who are free to engage with our resources as they see fit.
Starting point is 02:10:54 We are committed to confronting these allegations in an open and accountable manner. And that pile of trying to save face, but we all know it's bullshit, will take us out of today's timeline. Good job, soldier. You've made it back. Barely. Crazy.
Starting point is 02:11:19 New kind of cult out there forming right now. So what are Jeff and Shalee up to today? Spiral the bad press. They seem to be doing great. Still living in a five bedroom luxury home with a swimming pool south of Sutton Bay in Michigan near the shores of Lake Michigan that they bought April 7th, 2020 for $850,000.
Starting point is 02:11:37 That property recently valued at nearly 1.4 million. According to an article on people.com that came out in November 9th of this past year, they had over 67,000 followers on Facebook. Now they have over 76,000. They monitor who is allowed to post to control criticism, control the narrative. They still post frequently on YouTube. Get mostly love in the comments beneath their will produced but so fucking stupid videos.
Starting point is 02:12:00 They have a very well-constructed website, active on Instagram, lots of love there too. They do seem to have backed away from posting content in the last year or so that features them making the content. Now, definitely as followers are doing it, I'm guessing they're doing more sitting back and enjoying just, you know, all the money they're making. Speaking of money, here is a real gross video of them from 2020 talking about, you know, how well they're doing, just bragging about how they're making so much money. They're so rich. All the money made off, you know, sad, desperate, lonely, fragile people
Starting point is 02:12:32 that they are abusing. Hi there and welcome back to our channel. Welcome back. Today we're gonna talk about something that is both very delightful and wonderful and also actually really sensitive to us. Oh, cool. Today, we just discovered that we're not just millionaires, we're multi-millionaires.
Starting point is 02:12:50 Oh! And that's been this way for, you know, almost a year now. Wow! Are the one wearing like, don't you like it, your bank account? Yeah, no, seriously. I was always told it would be this way, You're just so focused on your work and your career that you don't realize that you become a millionaire. And I'm like, that's stupid
Starting point is 02:13:13 because I check my bank account regularly. I'm always on top of that, right? Yeah, hell yeah, bro. But you went to business school. Right, and the definition of a millionaire is not that you have a million dollars in cash in the bank Unless all you have is cash. Why are they making this video? The definition of a millionaire is A person who has more than a million dollars in net worth. Mm-hmm. It's your net worth. Cool. It means yep
Starting point is 02:13:41 I get it. How much you have an assets? Mm-hmm. And I know that Like it's like a one-eight hundred business commercial. Take this video and Use it as an example of how we're such scammers. Don't do that, please My god, I'm very nice to you because if you go back in our channel we you know, we're driving that shitty Saturn. You saw a Scrooche shopping. And just a few years later, we're here telling you that we're literally multi-millionaires.
Starting point is 02:14:15 So if you say, what scammers we are, like you really just hurting yourself, because we're here. There it is, there it is, the mirror game. Right, if you think that they're scammers, you're scamming yourself. No because we're here. There it is, there it is, the mirror game, right? If you think that they're scammers, you're scamming yourself. No, you're not. No, fuck these two assholes.
Starting point is 02:14:30 I hope they're fucking house burns down with them inside. But I hope their golden baby crawls out before that happens, but then it's raised by, you know, a couple that won't destroy her. What is sick thing for them to be proud of, right? If you become a multi-millionaire doing something good, yeah, celebrate that shit. Happy for you, truly, enjoy it.
Starting point is 02:14:46 But these two, all of their money has come from exploiting, confusing, abusing the very people who've made them multi-millionaires, like they're disgusting. And it's gonna be hard for former followers or the family of current members, unfortunately, to take them down. Neil Glazer, who's representing clients
Starting point is 02:15:01 in the nexium cult civil case, has been contacted a good god omway has been contacted by x members of the twin flames universe he cited the cost of litigation as being prohibitive and even if it weren't cases involving alleged cults are difficult to prosecute in the u.s. the first amendment protects religious freedom and psychological coercion and consent you know can prove to be subjective Glaser has said although most people would agree that groups exist, which rob people of their agency in ways that are profoundly harmful and wrong, translating that into
Starting point is 02:15:32 laws, that can be universally applied is a really difficult task. And that's unfortunate, right? And the twin flame universe, far from the only cult, praying on desperate people right now, according to information displayed on the screen at the very end of the recent three part Netflix documentaries, there are currently over 10,000 cults operating just in the US. And since the pandemic, this new type of cult, one that first forms on the internet is rapidly growing. This cult illustrates you no longer need to even be in the same physical location as your followers to socially isolate them. Right?
Starting point is 02:16:05 They've convinced followers that their families are abusive and they must cut ties with them from afar. They've convinced numerous followers to quit their jobs, only work for them, barely being paid enough to live all online. This makes them dependent on the cult financially. Jeff has been able to control followers' lifestyles from what they eat to who they must marry to what gender they must be. Jeff and Shalia have convinced members to be suspicious of anyone outside their group,
Starting point is 02:16:27 to not be friends with anyone outside their group, making the cult their sole source of interpersonal relationships. They've convinced members to report on other group members, not acting in accordance with their wishes, which is a powerful form of social control. Jeff has claimed to be a reincarnation of Jesus, and some followers apparently believe this, right? He's God, their God. And followers apparently believe this right he's God their God and Someday soon I bet he's gonna have that actual Michigan physical cult compound and then shit's gonna get apocalyptic Hopefully it doesn't end in some kind of Jones town type scenario There is no magic shortcut meet suck meets axters. There's no one out there who knows
Starting point is 02:17:01 You know so much more than the rest of, peasants about how to find your twin flame. In the realm of divine knowledge of things like this, I firmly believe there are only con artists. Having trouble dating? Like I said a few weeks, go start with a good therapist, go from there. Your journey I imagine will deal with a lot of introspection, a lot of self-care and work. Be aware of anyone who claims to be a god, a prophet, or even to have special insight into the divine. I firmly believe that there was no one out there who knows any more about the heart or mind of God or the secrets of the universe or existence than you or I. Sure there are people who are exceptionally insightful, and they can probably teach you a thing or two about, you know, how to look at the world differently, how to view spiritual
Starting point is 02:17:40 spirituality differently. Sure. But they're not actually communing with ascended ancient masters or some shit. The great white brotherhood fuck off with that. They don't actually have some higher vibrational frequency than you do and some truly connected to the divine way. You want to get a little new agey, commune with the universe and receive some divine wisdom.
Starting point is 02:18:01 You don't have to join a cult. Now you can just get hippie like I do. As long as you don't suffer from a serious mental illness Now, you can just get hippie like I do. As long as you don't suffer from a serious mental illness, then involve some type of psychosis like schizophrenia or have a lot of that in your family tree, just take between three and five grams of psilocybin mushrooms.
Starting point is 02:18:15 On a sunny day out in the woods or on the comfort of your own home, throw some peaceful nature video on the TV. Right, you're gonna be drawn to nature. You might still be able to take it if you do suffer from a serious mental illness. By the way, just do the research on how it might interact with your meds
Starting point is 02:18:29 and or brain chemistry first. Drink plenty of water, make sure someone you really trust, somewhat the calming presence. Ideally, some experience with psychedelics is there with you, willing to help calm you down, guide you if you get scared, make sure you don't hurt yourself. Just relax.
Starting point is 02:18:46 Let go of feeling like you need to be in control of everything for a couple of hours. Let a little bit of nature, cheap, non-addictive and possible to overdose on nature, show you a little existential glimpse of why you're here and what it all means. Or don't. I'm not going to make money off you doing it. Right? I'm not selling shrooms. I'm not gonna make money off you doing it. Right, I'm not selling shrooms. I'm not offering to be your guide. I'm just tossing out some free advice
Starting point is 02:19:09 that I feel like has worked for me. You can take it or leave it. No botanist, no therapist, no scientists. I don't really understand what that shit's doing in your brain, but I feel like it's helped mine. I love it. Worst case, you have a bad trip. Right, that's not a bad worst case.
Starting point is 02:19:22 Worst case, you know, what you won't do is give all your money to a cult and cut ties with all your friends and family, not in the cult. You won't be pressured as switching to a gender you have no natural interest in. I mean, you might think you're being pressured if you listen to this episode while you're tripping or shortly before you trip, so, you know, don't do that. I don't think you want any time suck in your ear, actually. This is not a good trip fuel. You definitely don't want any harmonious twin flames universe suck in your ear actually. This is not a good trip fuel. You definitely
Starting point is 02:19:45 don't want any harmonious twin flames universe bullshit in your ear. Harmonious my ass. Honestly, I recommend some of Texas's Crangbin if it's your first time. Some nice mellow, global groove funky guitar riff, soothing sounds. Or remember me, Hayden PadiGo, beautiful soothing instrumental guitar work, another Texas musician, or maybe Australia's King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, if you've already tripped and you're feeling more adventurous. I recommend the song Iron Lung. Watch their YouTube video of that song on loop towards the peak of your trip if you want
Starting point is 02:20:18 to blow your fucking mind. And now let's head to today's Top 5 takeaways. Time, Chuck, Top 5 takeaways. Number one, a twin flame is a term that has been around since the Victorian era, but really started to gain traction after the turn of the century. According to new age spiritualism, a twin flame is the person you share a single soul with,
Starting point is 02:20:38 separated into two bodies. Based on this concept, twin flame universe is an entirely online cult run by Jeff and Shalea Ion. Ayan. Number two, Jeff Ayan has been claiming he can perform impossible wonders like Kering Cancer and clinical depression through platforms like Facebook Messenger long before he founded
Starting point is 02:20:56 Twin Flames Universe. However, when he met Shalea in 2012, and they achieved the first harmonious Twin Flame Union, he started to focus shortly thereafter, all of his efforts on that scam. Number three, former members of Twin Flame Universe and parents of current members claim the Jeff and Shalea emotionally and financially exploit their followers, manipulate them into cutting off their families, force them to express their gender in uncomfortable ways, and encourage stocking and boundary crossing.
Starting point is 02:21:21 Number four, there are four offshoots of Twin Flame Universe founded by entrepreneur and con artist, Jeff A.N., Twin Flame Universe Extension School, the Church of Union, mind alignment process, and divine dish. The administrations of each of these companies are all composed of the same exploited people. And number five, new info, Jeff and Shalea
Starting point is 02:21:42 are taking their cult offline in a way already. They are now hosting students in their Michigan home and calling it spiritual boot camp. It's unclear how many students currently attend, but in a twin flames blog post, a previously mentioned titled learning what it means to be divine masculine, the author Gabriel, who was recently told by Jeff that he is a divine masculine, outlines what it has been like living under Jeff and Shalea's roof. Since coming to spiritual boot camp, I've learned even more about embracing a divine masculine, outlines what it has been like living under Jeff and Shalea's roof. Since coming to Spiriture Bootcamp, I've learned even more about embracing my divine masculinity. Jeff has been encouraging me to wear men's clothing, cut my hair even more, trim my fingernails,
Starting point is 02:22:14 smoke a cigar, and put the fuck and put me on several outdoor and house maintenance type projects where, though I've never done any of these things before, it has been like a crash course in living life as a man. So much fucking crazy, so much fucking crazy in this episode. The Twin Flames Universe cult has been sucked. Thank you to the Queen of Bad Magic and the rest of the team, including Hot Dog Connoisseur, Tyler C, the Suck Ranger that you really love hot dogs. Oh, yeah. And Mollaging Box provided the initial research.
Starting point is 02:22:52 Thanks to Spacers on Patreon for supporting this show. Thanks to the All-Seeing Eyes moderating the coach of the curious private Facebook page, Mod Squad, making sure the TimeSug Discord channel stays fun. And thanks to everyone over on the TimeSug subreddit and bad magic subreddit. And you can go to badmagicmerch.com if you want to check out what cool new designs Logan has been throwing in the store including his most recent challenge coin which are not many left of. Now let's head on over to last week's KFC Suck.
Starting point is 02:23:31 Space lizard Samantha Hurst left a following comment on the Patreon edition of this episode. Or that episode, saying, I was feeling a little down, a little doubtful about some recent big life choices. Moved two states away two weeks ago, but this made me happy and hopeful for the upcoming year. And if you are anywhere near Corbin, they turn the last iteration of the Colonel's restaurant into a KFC and mini museum.
Starting point is 02:23:54 So you can get some original recipe and see the first pressure fryer in his original kitchen. I love that Samantha. If I'm ever traveling through Corbin, after learning about the Colonel's journey, I would love to check out that little museum. I'd love to see like some brass knuckles in a display or maybe some boxing gloves.
Starting point is 02:24:10 And of course grab some sweet mashed potatoes. And best of luck on your new adventure. Two states away from what was your home, whatever you're up to, go get it and you got it. And now a message related to the Lori Valo Chaddebel demon zombie nonsense suck. From Bay Area entrepreneurial sack john john writes in with the subject line of Lori Valow in a rexberg connection
Starting point is 02:24:30 and he says hey sec. Hello suck master. I'm an old time fan probably not your target market as I'm closer to 70 than 60 but I've listened to all the time suck podcasts and tuning every week. Oh man. Thank you. I run a small company and spend a lot of time by myself running production and shipping orders. Time suck is my work buddy who entertains and educates. I love it. On Saturday, I was listening to the Lori Valow episode, what a piece of shit. Enjoying a cool can of Whipple while slipping out shipping out orders and what pops up in order to Rexburg, Idaho. Just as you are detailing what Chad Debel was doing there. I'd never heard a Rexburg and looked at the order wondering what the hell. Why would I get an order from this little bird just as you are detailing what Chad Debel was doing there. I'd never heard a Rexburg and looked at the order wondering what the hell? Why would I get an order from this little bird just as you are talking about this little gem of a town?
Starting point is 02:25:11 Anyway, packed up their order with a little note to not kill anyone and a plug for time suck. I may have lost a customer. Also if you, if any of your listeners need the world's best German glass glitter or other old-timey miniatures like Germany gnomes or spun cotton mushrooms. We can hook them up. We ship worldwide even to Rexburg. By the way, you become kind of a family friend. My daughter got me tickets to your Sacramento gig, loved it, and I forced my wife to go. While she would hate to admit it, she loved it as much as me. So if you can give a shout out to the love of my life, you're twin flame,
Starting point is 02:25:43 Carol. It might, it might get me off the couch and back into the bedroom. Thanks for all you do. Your loyal spaces are John. PS, if you want to throw me a plug, it's myerdashimports.com. John, I would love to throw you a plug. I checked out myerdashimports.com
Starting point is 02:25:58 and it's me, why er dash. And then just the word imports.com, it's fucking adorable. Check it out, fellow meat sacks. A very cool, niche business with a great slick website. Yeah, just a lot of like really cool products. Funny when stuff like hearing about wreckburg, you know, probably for the first time while working on an order to wrecksburg happens, right? Moments like that always give me a little pause.
Starting point is 02:26:20 Like, is the universe trying to tell me some? I mean, I realize you just, you know, probably coincidence. But sometimes it feels more than that. Also, I hope your customer does not kill anyone. Rexburg, they can't handle it. It's normally such a quiet town. I love that your daughter brought you to a show and that you and your wife had a great time,
Starting point is 02:26:36 even though she won't admit it, even though she will not submit. Carol, you got a sweet man here. I command you to go full Luciferin on him or at least give my hug and a kiss until I'm a great guy. And now some laughter. Holy shit. I've been fighting a cold. I probably heard me cough a few times, left me with this annoying cough. And when I read this, I started laughing, couldn't stop and started coughing so much it hurt. Sweet sucker Leslie Hammonds bought some of my bullshit. She wrote in with a subject line of Dan's damn bent boner
Starting point is 02:27:08 Dear suck master supreme I know how much you love getting us gullible meat sacks to fall for your absurd stories, and I just wanted to say Say that for six years you finally got me I thought you might find this particular gotcha even more enjoyable as I'm a healthcare professional with 17 years under her belt To my credit though, I'm a respiratory therapist and my motto is, I work from the waist up. So my bone or knowledge is only recreational at best. LOL. When you first mentioned falling out of bed onto your, when you first mentioned,
Starting point is 02:27:37 find out a bed onto your bone or abandon it, I was so concerned for your wellbeing. I audibly gasped, having worked in ER at times during my profession, I have heard secondhand of some very traumatic boner injuries. They were not my patients, however, as they did not require to be put on a ventilator. Though I'm sure some of them hyperventilated to an extreme degree. As the weeks went on and you kept mentioning this injury and that it had actually reoccurred, I became more and more concerned for you, even telling my husband that I thought you were overworked and needed to go to a wellness retreat or something like that.
Starting point is 02:28:10 I did not as close to him as a boner injury at that time. Later when it was revealed to be a joke, I was both relieved and embarrassed that I had fallen for the whole thing, but also laughing hysterically as was my husband, a certified boner owner who assured me that flying out of bed would not likely cause a 90 degree angle bent boner That one has to use to pee into a toilet like sinking a tricky pool shot. I Hope this gotcha moment fills you with as much satisfaction as it did entertainment for us If this doesn't get right on the podcast could you please give a shout out to my best friend of 32 years
Starting point is 02:28:44 If this doesn't get right on the podcast, could you please give a shout out to my best friend of 32 years Brother from another mother and fellow Spaceless or Anthony. He's the absolute best of humanity And I hope I can get him to do a future summer camp So that you two might stand in his unabashed greatness LL well seriously though he has been there for me through our mutual adolescence horrible trauma Marriage divorce cancer and the death of both my parents. I honestly don't know what I would where I'd be without him I love him and his wife and three children as my own family. This is adorable.
Starting point is 02:29:08 In closing, thanks for all that you do and thanks for all that you and the bad magic team do. I truly found a home in this community of awesome and kick ass meat sacks and serally, Leslie Hammons. Oh my God, Leslie, this one message. If no other mention of the boner injuries would have ever come in,
Starting point is 02:29:22 would have made my dick nonsense completely worth it. I can't tell you how much I love that you actually believed that my dick was first bent at a 90 degree angle. Then bent at 135 degree angle and then ended up basically looking like a kid's twisty fucking party straw. And I was still recording out of the soats. Ah, thank you, thank you for following for that and I do appreciate that you were very concerned for my well being. Excuse me. Oh my God. And yes, I would love to give a shout out to your best friend of 32 years. Spaces for Anthony. I love
Starting point is 02:29:57 old friendships like that. I mean, so special, truly irreplaceable, so sweet. I'm happy you found a home here, keep enjoying it. And if any one of us cultic curious members really do get our dick spent, I hope if no one else in our lives are worried about us, that we can reach out to you
Starting point is 02:30:13 to at least be able to complain about the trials and tribulations of having a bent dick to a receptive ear. And now I'll end on another Idaho related message, Spud sack, Jeffrey Jade, wrote in with a subject line of my wife and Lori Valo, started with my brother and Spuds. I gotta tell you about my wife, Blair,
Starting point is 02:30:32 and her obsession with the Valo, Debel case. As soon as news broke that Tiley and JJ were missing, Blair started following the story. For the last couple of years, I didn't need to read anything about it in the news because my wife would keep me updated whether I liked it or not. When it was announced that Lori's trial was moved to Ada County, my wife not content to
Starting point is 02:30:48 watch the news coverage made preparation to see it in person. I still remember how shocked I was that she was able to get into the courtroom to watch the opening statements. The court had to run a lottery for each day of court to give away tickets to the courtroom so they weren't overwhelmed by spectators. She was able to attend maybe five or six days of the trial. She got to know the cast of characters involved, the attorneys, the reporters, even the bailiffs. Now she is getting ready to do the same for Chad's trial. Of course, she couldn't speak
Starting point is 02:31:13 to Laurie, but she did mention how cold Laurie seemed to the proceedings. The only time Laurie showed any emotion was when JJ was mentioned. I really can explain Blair's interest in the case other than that she is interested in becoming a lawyer herself. She's an incredible wife and mother, and I know she would make a damn fine lawyer. While I have you on the line, I wanted to throw back to your crazy US laws. Episode 244. I wanted to commend you on waiting through the bullshit clickbait that I see out there on the subject.
Starting point is 02:31:39 That's what makes Times so great. I also wanted to give you a different perspective on Idaho's infamous crime against nature law. In the episode, you criticize the law for its use against consenting adults. As I'm sure that has happened, it also has been used with good intentions. I worked as a correctional officer for the state of Idaho for about 13 years. And I saw maybe four people charged with this crime. All of them, uh, all of them were for unconsenting sex acts that would not be otherwise prosecutable under other statutes. For example, I remember one sick fuck who's in a hospital.
Starting point is 02:32:09 One of the other patients, an 18 year old boy, woke up one morning to find this sick fuck sucking on his penis. Jesus. Crimes like this are what the statute is intended for. And all the people charged with the crime were in for similar non-consenting acts. Think of it like a catch-all law for sick twisted sex crimes that should be illegal but don't quite work under other statutes. Also one more thing, there is an Idaho law that you missed that is absolutely bonkers. Check out 18-1506A, ritualized abuse of a child. In part, this law makes it legal to A, actually, or in simulation, torture, mutilate, or sacrifice
Starting point is 02:32:45 any warm blooded animal or human being, and then B, force, oh, excuse me, skip E, then C, forces ingestion, or external application of human or animal urine, feces, flesh, blood bones, body secretions, non prescribed drugs, or chemical compounds, and the craziest one E, places a living child into a coffin coffin or open grave containing human corpse or remains. This law was passed in 1990 at the height of the satanic panic and was a hundred percent a response to rumors of satanic activity instead of events that actually happened. To the best of my knowledge, it has only been charged one time. In that case, the perpetrator said he was doing God's work, not the work of our dark
Starting point is 02:33:22 lord and savior Lucifer. Anywho, if you read this on the show, would you please come you and through the portal. I mean, give a shout out to my wife Blair and tell her to get cracking on studying for that LSAT, Hail Lucifina. Thanks for all you do, especially being a conduit for knowledge and at the same time helping so many charities keep on sucking Jeff. Oh, man, Jeff so much here. First off, you might want to keep a close eye on your wife.
Starting point is 02:33:43 Maybe sleep with one eye open. Is she studying up on becoming a lawyer, or is she looking to understand where Chad and Lori fucked up, so she can learn from their mistakes and maybe get rid of you? Or maybe she's hoping that if she spends enough time around them, she'll figure out how to identify demon zombies that need to be eliminated.
Starting point is 02:33:59 But for real, I hope she does start studying for LSAT if that's what she's in do. And I'm not surprised she found Lori to be very cold. I was surprised that Lori got emotional here in about J.D. Maybe there's still some human piece of her heart left. Also interesting to learn that some of those weird laws have come in handy. I was more really curious about who the fuck her was. I got convicted of that ritualized abuse statue. I think I figured out who you're talking about. Dana Andrew Furtany, February of 2018, the then 49 year old man from Priest River, which is just about an hour strive from here in
Starting point is 02:34:31 the Sucked Engine, found guilty of 10 counts of loot conduct for other charges, including ritualized abuse. He abused a woman and three children, told investigators his religious beliefs permitted treatment that he don't dole out. The abuse occurred between 2009 and 2013. For any fondle of the breasts and generals of two minor females, forced a minor boy to consume feces during what he characterized as a religious right. He locked the woman in a set of stocks, chained the boy up in an underground tunnel, and then once left the boy tied to an outhouse wall for a week. That fucker was sentenced to life in prison.
Starting point is 02:35:05 So is that the guy? I hope so. I hope he's not another guy. Got to do it and shit like that. Thanks for the message, Jeff. Thanks to everyone who's been sending the messages in lately. We've been getting a lot more of them and I love it. If your message does not make it onto the show, when you send it into Bojangles of TimeSook Podcast.com,
Starting point is 02:35:20 it does for sure still get read. Thanks, time suckers. I need a net. We all did. Thanks for listening to another Bad Magic Productions podcast, Scared to Death, Time Suck each week. Please don't join an online cult this week, Meets X. Sure sounds just as shitty and sad as a traditional cult.
Starting point is 02:35:42 Just stick with this cult. I'm not asking for $8,880. And most here on time, I'm asking for five bucks a month. And I'm not gonna tell you who you should date or what gender you really are. I don't wanna be that involved in your business. I just want you to, I can't guess,
Starting point is 02:35:58 I bet you can. That's right, keep on sucking. And magic productions. This is the plaintiff, the righteous patriarch, Dan Cummins. The defendant, his wife, Lindsey Cummins, has been accused of being a 5.2-level dark zombie, whose soul has been possessed by a powerful demon known as theodore Bartholomew, aka Teddy Bart. And this demon zombie-polish monster has been accused of refusing to submit and be subservient. The plaintiff believes that the stress of living with a willful and disobedient woman,
Starting point is 02:36:43 who won't always do what he wants when he wants her to has led to a series of bedtime bonerfall disasters that have left him crippled ashamed and inconsistible pain. He's asking for a trillion dollars in damages. The defendant thinks that all of this is quote, silly and stupid and has told the plaintiff that he can go fuck himself. Who gets fucked? Who gets a trillion dollars? Fight up!
Starting point is 02:37:06 When today's verdict is handed down by Judge Bopner, presided over, the meat sacks courts.

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