Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 64 - Pizzagate: How to make lies sound like truth

Episode Date: December 4, 2017

What the Hell is Pizzagate? It’s a detailed conspiracy theory claiming that a pedophile ring - a Satanic pedophile ring was being run out of a Hillary Clinton-linked Washington D.C. pizzeria called Comet Ping Pong. Seriously. Edgar Maddison Welch believed it to be true enough to fire a rifle into Comet Ping Pong on Dec. 4th, 2016, in attempt to rescue kids he believed were being held captive, molested, and raped in the pizza place’s basement (even though Comet Ping Pong has no basement). Edgar is now serving four years in prison now. How did millions come to believe this insanity? Russian Twitter bots, disinformation specialists, the utter madness of Alex Jones and InfoWars and more broken down and deconstructed in this giant Idiots of the Internet edition of Timesuck! Timesuck is also brought to you today by the Dollar Shave Club. Get the first month of the Executive Razor, Dr. Carver's Shave Butter, and more for free for only $5 with FREE shipping by going to www.dollarshaveclub.com/timesuck Trouble with the APP or new website? Email BitElixir! (you'll have to copy and paste - sorry) [e-mail] Merch - https://badmagicmerch.com/ Want to try out Discord!?! https://discord.gg/tqzH89v Want to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever current page hasn't been put in FB Jail :) For all merch related questions: https://badmagicmerch.com/pages/contact Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG, @timesuckpodcast on Twitter, and www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcast

What the hell is Pizza Gate? It's a detailed conspiracy theory claiming that a pedophile ring, a satanic pedophile ring, yep, was being run out of a Hillary Clinton linked Washington, DC, Pizzeria, called Comit Ping Pong, seriously. In the fall of 2016, the personal email account of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton's presidential 67-year-old campaign manager was hacked and his emails were made public by WikiLeaks. Proponents, a pizzeria, of the theory claimed that these emails contained coded messages, messages that once decoded, clearly were referring to human sex trafficking and a dark connection

between Comit Ping Pong, other DC restaurants, and high-ranking members of the Democratic Party and their disgusting, wealthy liberal elite friends with a pedophile child sex ring. Liberal political elites taking kids to pizza place basements to molest them. Because you know, that's why you get into politics in the first place. To eventually be able to finger a nine year old sex slave in a DC Pizzeria. Turns out that's the liberal agenda I've heard referred to my whole life. I've heard that term tossed around forever, no one's been able to conclusively tell me what the agenda is. It's ped liberal agenda. I've heard referred to my whole life. I've heard that term tossed around forever, no one's been able to conclusively tell me

what the agenda is. It's pedophilia. They wanna take away our guns, so we can't shoot them when they're diddling our kids. That's fucking asshole, those demons. Get the hell out of here. In the leaked emails, it was believed by many, for example, that cheese pizza was code for child pornography.

Get it? Same initials, so it must be true. CP, gotta be careful now when you tell people you're really into cheese pizza. Gotta be careful when you tell people you can't get enough cheese pizza. You just love cheese pizza so much. Nothing makes you harder or wetter than a slice of sexiest cheese pizza. This utter unsubstantiated nonsense led to a 28 year old North Carolina man Edgar Madison Welch firing a rifle into Comit Ping Pong on December 4th 2016 in an attempt to rescue kids he believed were being held captive molested and raped in the pizza place's basement.

Thank God he didn't hit anyone and Comit Ping Pong by the way doesn't have a basement. Edgar was sentenced to four years in prison this past June after pleading guilty to assault with a dangerous weapon and transporting a firearm over state lines and being a fucking idiot. I feel like he got off easy. A December 2016 poll conducted by public policy polling asked registered voters if they thought Hillary Clinton was connected to a child sex ring being run out of a pizzeria and Washington DC 9% said that they did believe she was connected 19% weren't sure so you know a third of people pulled either thought the Hillary was definitely a sexual predator

or definitely could be even though no serious credible allegation concerning anything even remotely tied to pedophilia has ever been made against her also on December 4th Alex Jones and his slanderous shit show info info wars dot com, uploaded a YouTube video that linked Pizzagate to the November 13th death of a sex worker rights activist. The video falsely claimed that she had been investigating a link between the Clinton Foundation and human trafficking and Haiti and it speculated that she had been murdered in connection with her investigation. According to the activist's former employer, her family and her friends, her death was

in fact a suicide and she was not investigating the Clinton Foundation. In March of 2017, Alex Jones retracted his pizegate death accusation to avoid prosecution for libel. I personally remember right around this same time, overhearing a woman on a plane, I happened to be on, ranting about the Clinton's molesting kids on some crazy pedophile island is if that were a documented fact. Such a horrific accusation to pass along that was perpetuated by people who all shared one thing in common.

None of them knew what the fuck they were talking about. Not everything on the web is true, people. Wish more humans understood that. So how do these wacky noodle conspiracies get started? Why do they get started? Why the hell does so many people believe this intellectually insulting drivel? The evolution and accusations of the Pizzigate scandal

examined and the culture of US and I intellectualism and fake news pondered in this time suck that really is one big addition of idiots of the internet. You're listening to Top7. What's going on time, suckers? Hello, Cole to the Curious. How do you hope people open to new ideas? People who don't necessarily agree with me, but listen anyway. Because you're not afraid to disagree with someone.

You know, no, and they're not going to threaten or change you in ways you don't want them to do so. I'm Dan Cummins, aka suckiest Maximus Mundi, suck masters supreme walks with bow jangles. You might hear bow jangles in the background today, her little dinglin and danglin, profit and Nimrod, cult leader Cummins, and whatever else you've been referring to me this past week. And this is time suck. Hail Nimrod. Some tour announcements and then we're on to PizzaGate,

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at the same place, March 2nd, and 3rd as well. And the small town murder swap cast in Detroit, February 16th, 2018, it's on. It's on at the Magic Back. Thank you guys so much for pre buying those tickets to the standup show. Now we're doing two shows that night. First show is me and the guys in small town murder doing standup. Late show is us doing a live swap cast, little hybrid of small town murder and time suck. And those tickets go on sale tomorrow. Two shows in one night. First is around seven for around for doors open to seven, why do I have to be vague? First is around, you know, anytime between noon

and two weeks from then, no, seven PM. And then the swap cast can start at 10 PM. Take a link in the episode description, and now that's goddamn, let's get back to PZK. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Okay, before I even delve further into the PZ gate stuff, I want to be very clear, this isn't some partisan attack. I don't give shit about Hillary Clinton.

And not like that, I don't like her. I just, frankly, I have been so busy in other things that I don't know much about her policies. I was in shamefully kind of ignorant this last election. That's kind of when the podcast started going. I will not be much about her policies. I was in a shamefully kind of ignorant this last election. That's kind of when the podcast started going, I will not be selling the next election. I'm in this kick of being a member

of the cult of the curious now and I'm gonna educate myself, but I wasn't. And I don't know. I don't know a lot about her platforms, anything like that. And then Trump, obviously I see the news that we all see constantly every day, but I have no interest currently to do some big attack on him.

I feel like that's being handled by fucking everybody. I feel like the rest of the media is obsessed with Trump, and that's fine, not even judgment there, but it's like, I don't need to add to that at this time. So this is just an investigation of pizza gates specifically, and I think just a look into how scary it is, how easy it is to really just make up crazy things about somebody and make a large percentage of the population believe those crazy things if you have the means and the money. So that's

what this has become for me after doing my research. Okay, so now we're going to dig into it. The original Pizza Gate Facebook post appeared on the evening of October 29, 2016, a day after then FBI director James Comey announced that the Bureau would be reopening its investigation into Clinton's use of a private email server while she was Secretary of State. Okay, we all heard about that. I'll heard about the emails. You know, tons, tons during the last election. Normally I do a time-sake timeline for something like this, but the dates are gonna bounce around a little bit. So that doesn't quite make much sense. Data from Hillary's private email server

had been found on electronics belonging to former representative Anthony Weiner. Husband of her close aide, Huma Abedin. Not Huma is some people in the public eye. Like to say, that is not how you say her name. It's it's Uma not Uma and he of the numerous God, that's bad when I'm correcting you on pronunciation and he the numerous 16 and infidelities canals We've all heard of Anthony Weiner the dude named Weiner who just kiddin couldn't keep his Weiner his pants Probably still can't right still can't keep it away from cell phone cameras Jesus Christ

I've I can't remember a more self-destructive politician than that guy. He's like, he has a self-destruct button on his dick. Weiner, who's then 51 years old, had been caught texting that lured messages to a 15-year-old. That's so gross. Well, on Facebook, user Carmen Katz wrote, my NYPD source said it's much more vile and serious

than classified material on Wiener's device. The email detail, the trips made by Wiener, Bill, and Hillary, on their pedophile billionaire friend's plane, the Lolita Express. Yep. Hillary has a well-documented predilection for underage girls. Dot, dot, dot.

We're talking in international child enslavement and sex ring. That's what you use their common cats run on Facebook. Pretty hefty accusation. So what the hell is Carmen talking about? Let's break it down. Let's start with the low-leeda express. The low-leeda express referred to here is the private plane of billionaire financier

and philanthropist, Jeffrey Epstein. And in addition to the Clintons, Trump, Kevin Spacey, Stephen Hawking, Prince Andrew, Naomi Campbell, and others have flown on it some numerous times. You know, who hasn't been on that plane? Michael Motherfucking McDonald, not once. Not one mention. Epstein has a private island. And St. Thomas that has been referred to as an orgy island.

Author James Patterson even wrote a book about Epstein and his island in 2016 called Filthy Rich, a powerful billionaire, the sex scandal that undid him and all the justice that money can buy, the shocking true story of Jeffrey Epstein. And make no mistake, Epstein is a piece of shit. In June 2008, after Epstein pled guilty to a single state charge of soliciting prostitution from girls as young as 14, he was sentenced to 18 months in prison. He served 13 months before being released. 13 months for a man then in his mid 50s for fucking numerous teen girls,

young teen girls. Why do we allow this as a society? Seriously, why do we play so little value on dealing with sexual predators, so little value on our kids? At least Epstein would register in New York State as a level three high risk of reoffence sex offender. Apparently, although he pled guilty in a deal to only soliciting prostitution for the one girl, he had a whole parade of underage escorts disguised as masseuses who he and some of his associates would sleep with.

Super dirty, super fucked up, huge investigation into him at that time. And there's rumors of many other things, but that one, you got convicted for. And tying this to our story today, we that someone like Facebook user Carmen Cass would cherry pick wish politician they think fuck kids along with Epstein. Like there's no more evidence that Hillary Clinton slept with, you know, underage girls on that island. Then Donald Trump did. They both knew him. They were both on the planes.

And since there's never been any evidence, Hillary has slept with or been attracted to women of any age, not only real evidence, logically it's actually more likely that Trump fucks some kids on the island. Then Hillary did, on the basis of just, you know, sexual preference. And on the basis of him being attracted to women, her, there's no, no, no, no credible accusations of her being attracted to women. Okay, so there's, there's that.

And it's obvious to anyone paying Okay, so there's that. And it's obvious to anyone paying attention, the Trump does have a mercier sexual past than Hillary does. You know, he talked about Grappin' Busy, okay? Sexual assault, we all heard it. That's undeniable to any rational person. So like him, love him, or hate him, he said what he said.

Hate Hillary all he wants. And again, not saying I personally like her, love her, know that much about her, but there is no, no, no evidence. Real evidence of her saying something so sexually aggressive. But you know, she flew on the kid fuckers plane. So Carmen Katz, it's convinced she is also a kid fucker. A few more moments on Epstein here. Another woman claiming in a recent lawsuit

that she was lured into a sex trafficking ring by billionaire Jeffrey Epstein, contends that the depravity began at a Florida resort now known as the Winter White House, Mar-Lago. You know, the place Trump owns. Epstein was a regular at Mar-Lago to be fair. He was also a regular contributor to the Clinton Foundation.

But funny though, how some people will choose to only associate the Clintons with Epstein's if they're conservative, and I'm sure others only associate Trump with him if they're liberal. Well, put your political bias aside, open your eyes, they appear equally connected based on currently released information.

But again, Carmen cat suddenly posted, it's the Clinton's who along with Epstein are running an international child sex ring because Hillary's known to have a thing for young girls. Remember, she has a well-documented predilection according to Cameron or Carmen. You know, I think again, I think we want to better politics. You know, call her, again, I think we want about our politics.

You know, call her part of the liberal agenda or think she catered to the Hollywood elite if you want, but there's no credible evidence that she's fucking ever had anything to do with pedophilia. It's just so reckless to throw a shit like that around. I mean, imagine if someone who hated you because of your personality

or because of your political beliefs or because of how you treated him at work, or just whatever. Started posting shit online about you being a pedophile. Imagine the rage you would feel. It's not cool. It's beyond the realm of dirty politics. It's just morally repugnant.

According to Politifacts.com, a Pulitzer Prize winning government fact checking website run by reporters and editors from the Tampa Bay Times. Clinton, Pettophile ring rumors are unequivocally baseless, totally baseless and false. Additionally, since 2009, Politifact has declared one political statement from each year to be the lie of the year, and Politifact's 2016 live the year was fake news, referring to fabricated news stories,

including the P2Gate conspiracy theory. These rumors are so crazy. There was another one way back in 2008, just to talk about crazy rumors. A rumor that the Clinton's pastor had been convicted of sexually abusing a child. I don't know if you remember that. It's been numerous years. There's a rumor that he was part of this sex ring and that the Clintons were also part of their, you know, the sex ring, right there along with him, various websites ran headlines like Clinton pastor convicted of sexual abuse of a child, you know, referring to like, you know, the Clintons

Hillary and Bill. Comment sections went crazy, condemning Bill and Hillary for their pedophilia associations, people just going off on them, fucking, you know, to put them in prison. The actual truth, the actual truth, a pastor from the town of Clinton, New York, was convicted. A man with zero ties to Bill and Hillary, other than the town he happened to fucking live in shared the same name as their last name. That's literally the only association. But the fucking idiot to the internet took a true story and just spun it into slander

a slice like these morons so love to do. Ugh, I do find tracking down the origins of these rumors and conspiracies, fascinating, such a reminder, man, to just not believe headlines, just because you read them. You gotta dig in, you gotta see where their sources are. Okay, back to the Petzigay origin, Facebook posts. So, Carmen Katz appears to be a fake profile name for a real woman, and her name is Cynthia Campbell.

I always get skeptical, man, when people do not post stuff under their real name. Like why can't you stand by it? If you're posting truth out there, if you're posting your real beliefs, then use your real name. You fucking coward. Well, for more than 20 years,

Cynthia, a 60-year-old attorney, has practiced law out of her home in Joplin, Missouri. And where did she get her pedophile information? From Lucifina herself, from the dark and evil temptress of time suck sister Satan. It is Luciferina. She is behind P2Gate. She is the lies originator. No, actually Cynthia won't say what her source was, probably because she doesn't have one.

Or she knows it's not a good one, but it's likely based on some investigative journalists, their work that she picked it up from either a forechan, chatroom, or from Reddit. Over three months before Cynthia's post on July 2nd, 2016, someone calling themselves FBI Anon, someone who claimed to be a quote, high-level analyst and strategist for the FBI. Host didn't ask me anything, form on forechan,

he claimed to be leaking government secrets, he's an Edward Snowden type He's out of love for his country bullshit. I feel like claiming to be a high-level FBI analyst It's a red flag for somebody. I don't people do that when they just come out with that I've met a number of weirdos and all my traveling over the years who have claimed to possess classified government knowledge Like it's how usually a bar like after after, after, you know, a show, just some, usually somebody drinking alone, I'm not making this app just to make money for the, but it's like some weird dude, drink alone, you know, and he never, you never ask him, it never

comes up naturally, that he's like a high ranking analyst. You're never like, hey man, you look like somebody who probably has some government secrets. Funny you should mention that. I do have government secrets that I'm willing to talk about now, even though I'll supposedly kill me for finding out, I'm willing to share them with a stranger right now, who I've known for 30 seconds. No, they're always like, you'll be talking about whatever,

just a baseball, okay, man, how's it going? Pugh, oh, it's all right, man, it's all right. I just got a lot of my mind. Got a lot like one of those people who tries to bait you into their type of, you know, pre-programmed speech they want to give you about their life. Oh, man, why, why, why, why you down? Well, I didn't want to say anything, but I've been keeping a lot of high ranking, you know, government official secrets for quite a while. And it's really weighing on my conscience.

So, uh, anyway, here's the thing. Uh, people in the little, you know, they just go off about, you know government official secrets for quite a while and it's really way in my conscience so uh... anyway uh... here's the thing uh... people in the little uh... you know they just go off about you know nonsense uh... extremely full of shit most of these people right it's like you know dude if you are some government elite VIP why are you having a drink with me the applebee's down the street from the county club what why are you drinking in an applebee's alone why are you wearing crocs to the bar why are you wearing cargo shorts crocs and black socks to a bar if If you're some James Bond type secret information having son of a bitch.

Why does only your right hand smell like lotion? Why is your mom coming to pick you up, take you back home in half an hour? Why is there a ham and cheese hot pocket stain on your tank top? What kind of covert ops guy has a comb over? All right, maybe the lives don't quite look like that, but you know, have that vibe a lot of times.

Okay, so there's a lot of liars out there, you know, and it's even easier to lie on the web than it is to lie to someone's face at a bar. I always hate it when people say something to the effect of in these circumstances, well, if it wasn't true, why would they even say that? Because they're fucking liar. Because they enjoy lying.

In my experience, a large amount of the population, they just lie quite a bit. Like it's like it's no big deal. They'll lie to get out of trouble, lie to get ahead in life, lie to mess with somebody, lie to bring somebody else down, lie to make themselves feel important. An FBI a non seems to be a liar. FBI non-secrets were about the Department of Justice's inquiry into the Clinton Foundation, where federal prosecutors never formalized, or which federal prosecutors never formalized. Excuse me.

Dig deep. He wrote, Bill and Hillary love foreign donors so much they get paid in children as well as money. Jesus. Can you imagine the high rank? I mean, come on. I know a lot of them are pieces of shit, but like, you know, just trying to get paid in kids.

Hey, I'll push this deal for you. I'll lower the import taxes on your nation's good, but you can have to pay me. That's no problem. That is no, we will pay you what we need. How much money do you need to be paid? Well, I need a couple hundred thousand dollars, but I also need two six year olds. Okay, that's no problem. We have many six year olds. We'll give you a fucking crazy. So then somebody else asks, does Hillary have sex with kidnap girls and a fortune on the forechand? And yes, FBI and non answered, no sources listed. Just some poster, who the actual identity, no

one knows claiming to be a government source, just talking shit. Now here's where things really get interesting. The primary source I relied on for this information by the way was November 16th, Rolling Stone Articles, just this past November 16th, that was reported in partnership with the investigative fund and reveal from the center, oh, investigative fund and reveal,

from the center of investigative reporting. Oh Jesus Christ, sorry, there's a lot of words there. It's strong next to each other. It's in partnership. One place is called the Investigative Fund. Other place is called Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting. It's a long name.

I love the Investigative Fund's mission, statement by the way. The Investigative Fund's mission is to produce high impact investigative reporting that holds the powerful accountable. We seek to bring under-reported stories to light, cultivate diverse journalistic talent, and create a home for independent journalism that serves the public.

Fuck yeah, power to the people. Rage against the machine, baby. Killin' in the name of. Okay, that was a reference for a few people. Another piece of the Pizza Gate origin puzzle appeared online about 10 hours before Cat's Posers store on Facebook. The rant, it describes itself as a message board for New York City cops speaking their minds. Virtually everyone on this site

Use it some kind of identity masking screen name. I've checked it out myself And of course they use screen screen names at master at any because a lot of it's just about boobs turns out to a bunch cops Talking mostly about boobs naked boob posts as if there isn't enough boobs on the rest of the web as if you couldn't easily find it with a few more clicks If there isn't enough boobs on the rest of the web, as if you couldn't easily find it with a few more clicks. October 29, 2016, user fattled man posted he had a hot rumor about the FBI investigation, saying the feds were forced to reopen the Hillary email case because apparently the NYPD sex crimes unit was involved in the Weiner case.

I do love this called Weiner case. User fattled man also wrote on his laptop, they saw emails. They notified the FBI. Feds were afraid the NYPD would go public, so they had to reopen or be accused of a cover-up. Someone then posted that news to a law enforcement Facebook group. From there, user eagle wings at NIV, ISA, 4031, posted it to Twitter. Now, I just checked Eagle Wing's profile picture yesterday and it shows a smiling middle-aged woman

above the description, USA Air Force vet believes FreedomSource Facebook. In her profile pic, she's wearing a Christmas Santa hat that says, make Christmas great again. Can we stop that? Can we stop with the make Christmas great again? Can we stop with just with the making shit great again in general? It's maronic moronic. It's embarrassing.

It is in other other countries see that shit in laughs so hard at how fucking dumb it is because it's a nonsense statement. It's a nonsense slogan. When exactly was Christmas not great? You fucking idiot. When was Christmas horrific? And just so horrific like Christmas was just down in the dumps. Santa was just getting kicked in the dick every Christmas Eve year after year. Elves are getting sodomized in the streets. Christmas is just it's hell.

It's hell on earth. And then and then someone came along finally to make it great again. And I guess according to the Trump stuff, it was just it was hell last year or two years ago. I guess when he wasn't in on two was just, it was hell last year. Or two years ago, I guess, when he wasn't in on, two years ago, oh, Christmas just reindeer, just getting fucking decapitated, right in front of their sleds in front of weeping five-year-olds. But now, gonna make it great again.

Goddamn, we are being treated like stupid children. My politician, I'm just, I'm starting to get really pissed off. How many people aren't pissed off about that? Work less on a hollow slogans, assholes. Work more on putting the cost of higher education and real estate in line with inflation. Work on creating more domestic manufacturing jobs, make China buy more of our goods,

instead of kissing their ass, focus on affordable healthcare and a tax plan. They help small businesses in the bottom 75%. And outside of that, shut the fuck up. Let's talk more action, less's tweeting more help in the economy. God damn. Help the middle class and already assholes. That's why I try not to talk about politics.

That's why I try not to get political on time, suck. I get so angry. I get so angry. And again, this really isn't a part of the attack. I get so angry just in general with politics. Jesus, we've been talking about affordable healthcare my entire adult life, right? And we still can't figure it out.

Why? Insurance and pharmaceutical company, lobbyists and insurance and pharmaceutical company, corporate wall street profits. That's why, someday I like with gun control and the immigration stuff. When I have more time than usual to research, I'll dig in on all that shit.

And I say I gotta have more time because those are hot button issues. I'll probably get some angry emails about this one too, just because I dared to attack anyone and then the fuck in politics right now. But back to Eagle Wings. She has a shit ton of followers, almost 125,000 as of this past week.

And she has some powerful followers. Among Eagle Wings, more influential followers are former deputy assistant to President Trump, Sebastian Gorka, former national security advisor general, Michael Flynn, the man who pled guilty this past Friday, by the way, to line to the FBI about conversations with Russia's ambassador. Flynn actually shared a separate Eagle Wings tweet last year.

However, Samuel Woolly, who directs research at the Institute for the Future's Digital Intelligence Lab, whose mission statement describes themselves as an independent nonprofit research organization with a nearly 50-year-old track record of helping all kinds of organizations make the futures they want. Samuel, this Samuel, does not think that equal wings is even a real person. Things she's a bot. Things she tweets too often, more than 50,000 tweets since November 2015. And I think she has too many followers.

Without a shadow of a doubt, he says Eagle Wings is a highly automated account and part of a bot network, a centrally controlled group of social media accounts. To explain how these work, Ben Nemo, a fellow at the Atlantic Council's digital forensic research lab uses a sheep hurting analogy, or I guess shepherding.

My rigans came out there. I saw shepherding and I just went to sheep hurting. But he says a message that someone or some organization wants to trend is typically sent out by shepherd accounts, he says. Which often have large followings and are controlled by humans, so they're real accounts. Some organization wants to trend is typically sent out by Shepard accounts, which often have large followings and are controlled by humans. They're real accounts.

The Shepard's messages are amplified by sheepdog accounts, which are also run by humans but can be default set to boost the signal and harass critics. At times, the Shepard's personally steer conversations, but they also deploy automation. Using a kind of Twitter cruise control to retweet particular keywords and hashtags. Together, Nimo says, the shepherds and the sheep dogs guide a herd of bots, which mindlessly repost content in the digital equivalent of sheep

rushing in the same direction and bleeding loudly. Fuck, think about that for a second. Think about how, if you had the money, you could hire a team of online social media manipulators to push whatever message you want to the masses, right? Some team of, I don't know, five, 10 people, that just, you know, push your message, and then they, those five people,

they push it out to just tens or hundreds of thousands of automated accounts, just create a ton of smoke where there actually is no fire. And why would you do that? Well, for many reasons, but a one could be to discredit a political opponent and win an election. Think about the possibility that the national security advisor of the most powerful nation on Earth

may have been retweeting the tweet of an automated account, of just slanderous accusations. Oh, whether cats repeated something or a herd of bots was bleeding or repackaged tidbits found on other parts of the internet Her her Facebook post was the human touch that helped the fake news story go viral The tell says was what happened next he says most of his post in the internet oblivion But about 12 hours after cats shared her story a Twitter user named David Goldberg, New York tweeted a screenshot of her post twice adding

I have been hearing the same thing from my NYPD buddies too. Next couple of days will be interesting. Now, woolly says that at David Goldberg, New York appears to have been like ego wings, a highly automated account and part of an organized, bot effort to spread disinformation. Who runs at David Goldberg, New York? Nobody knows. The handle is not one of the roughly 2700 Twitter accounts

linked to the internet research agency, a Kremlin run disinformation organization, a group the House Intelligence Committee released information on in November. And Twitter has yet to make public the handles of an additional 37,000 bot account. Its attorney, Sean Edget, has told Congress that have characteristics we used to associate an account with Russia. Wow, man. Now one of the Russian accounts involved in all this pizza gate madness is at Andre Chikotilo. Yes, he does that Chikotilo. I like pizza gates.

I like pizza gates on many levels. I love pizza. I love doing nothing thanks with children. It's best of both worlds. I come in, I get two slices of New York style pepperoni pizza, I wrestle, kids and basement, I have punch card. For every 10 slices I buy of pizza, it comes with ping pong,

I get two minutes of basement rastling with kid in cage. It's like, I juxtapose cock and pizza, Rio sex dungeon basement, America. What a country. I'm so sorry if this is your first episode. How confusing that may have just had to have been for you. Roger, by the way, isn't the only one playing the social media manipulation game? We've also had sources tell us that using bot network has become a common practice among

US political campaigns, says Willie. He says they do it with subcontractors and the federal election commission doesn't require reporting for subcontractors. It says the more sophisticated botnets, the ones that are successful at spreading stories are built by people with a lot of resources. In our experience across multiple different countries, the people that have deep pockets are the powerful political actors. Now, according to a sample of tweets with Pizzegate, or related hashtags provided by Philippo Menser, a professor of informatics. That's a, okay.

So, Smartypants, this guy, professor of informatics at Indiana University, Pizzegate was shared roughly 1.4 million times by more than a quarter of a million accounts in its first five weeks of life. From at David Goldberg, New York's tweet to the day, well showed up at comment ping pong 1.4 million times by more than a quarter of a million accounts in its first five weeks of life. From at David Goldberg, New York's tweet to the day, Welch showed up at Comment PingPong with his rifle. And remember Welch, due to shot up Comment PingPong on December 4, 2016, in an attempt

to rescue kids, he believed for being held captive, molested, raped, in the pizza place his basement. When it doesn't even have a basement, well at least 14 Russia-Linked accounts had tweeted about Pizzagate. Some of those accounts were retweeted by Donald Trump, Jr. and Colter, Roger Stone, a political operative who recommended Paul Manafort as Trump's campaign manager. Now again, I know how sensitive die hard Trump supporters can be. And I want to say again, I'm not attacking Trump from a liberal point of view. I am relaying the information I have found, which happens to link to Pizzegate to his campaign. Does that mean he planned pizegate?

No, it doesn't. It absolutely does not. There is no evidence of that. For all we know, other politicians could have been doing the same thing. I have no proof of that either, but it's possible. You know, what's scary to me isn't that conservatives may have manipulated social media to help win an election. You know, that's not, that's scarier to me than if liberals did it

or if they tried to do it, what scared of me is that it's possible to do this. This is what's scary to me. That it's fucking possible to do this kind of thing. That you can just make up nonsense, and then there's this new form of social media manipulation out there where you can hire all these bots and fucking teams of people to spread your message and just make tons of people believe it. Man, the web is, you know, it's supposed to be a place

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On November 19th, 2016, Pamela Moore tweeted, well, well, well, above the fake news headline, FBI, rumors about Clinton pedophile ring are true. There it is, I guess it's true. Forget everything I said before that. Somebody else set it on the web, that is true. So it has to be true. Michael Flynn, son, Michael Flynn, Jr. who followed 58 accounts, discovered 2B bots,

tweeted, until Pizzagate proven to be false, it'll remain a story. And then he was promptly fired from the Trump transition team in early December as he should have been. And not all the Twitter handles, Conceal, Pumpe, and this story out were bots, Crystal Camp, a real 50-year-old grandmother from Confluen's Pennsylvania tweeted about Pizzagate more than 4,000 times in five weeks. What in the hell? An investigative journalist reached out to her via Facebook to ask her why she did it and she told the journalist because she didn't want Hillary to win at any cost.

She said she didn't actually know that much about Pizzagate. She just told the journalist that everything she tweeted or retweeted with stuff that I found to my own research or from another Twitter follower. Yeah, right, research. I'm sure, sure, Crystal was just doing a shit ton of research. What research was she actually doing? I'm guessing none.

I'm guessing zero. It's such a big problem on the web. Man, I've noticed that a lot of conspiracy theorists are really bad at discerning good information from bad information. Like when they do do their research, they're unable to tell a legitimate website from a fucking wacky doodle site. And sadly, more and more journalists in my opinion are not as careful about facts reporting

as maybe they should be. I think I'm just totally, total speculation here. I think many journalists probably have a harder time than ever, fact check in a story, because they're such a demand for constant content now. Pre- content now pre internet man, newspapers, for example, much more profitable than they are now. They could afford larger staffs. They could do their due diligence on research. And then TV came along in the 1950s, newspapers took a big hit, right?

There was a sexy new media out there where people could get their info. And then there was the explosion of the web in the 90s and that really increased the options available to the average newsreader further hurting various papers, profits. And with less profits, cutbacks started being made. You know, even less journalists are now being used to carry the same media workload they had previously for any given paper.

And then the journalists be in the field and increasing amount of pressure from Wall Street as shareholders demand of the Viacoms of the world these big media conglomerates to be more profitable than ever, which means you have to cut staff even further, right, to kick up that profit margin. That puts an even higher workload, obviously on the journalists and now a lot of journalists can't just write for a paper. They don't just have daily deadlines hours away, you know, they have to write from the web. They have deadlines fucking minutes away all the time. Now get that story out now.

We needed that breaking story two minutes ago, right? There's more competition, more players trying to break the same story first. That is not created good environment for good journalism. And it's not just newspapers and the websites they've spawned over the years that have suffered. I've watched TV, you know, news sources over the years, downsize as well.

And doing stand-up around the country. I've been a guest on countless local morning shows. And year after year, I watched the staffs of these places just dwindle. I've done morning shows where the on-air personalities and I are the only people in the room. No producers even around. It's all automated.

One of the shows I did said that the host was being replaced in early 2019 by an actual robot. They showed me beta testing photos and videos of this thing. Looks like some dude. And in this robot, they just keep them at the studio. Just like fucking live like fucking live there you know I guess I don't have to feed him or anything and you just be permanent host you know they're gonna start off with him initially have a real woman as a co-host for the first year then replace her with a robot see if anyone notices and then and then just replicate that around the country rumor has that the Cassie Lee Gifford died three months

ago and whenever you see her it's a fucking robot. So that's nuts. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, daily, daily, the staff of these daily papers keep shrinking, you know, journalists are paid less than expected to do more that is not create environment for reliable news. So we have, you know, the more trusted news sources

slip in a little bit in terms of accuracy, relying on sensationalism to keep people's attention. Now there's all those fake news websites out there reporting other nonsense. People like Crystal Camp don't know what to believe. You know, it's hard, it's hard to know what to believe when people are making up shit about robots. You know, making up weird lies about Cassie Lee Giffert.

I made all the robot stuff up, just to be very clear. Cassie Lee Giffert, to my knowledge knowledge is not a robot that I am aware of. And robots are not replacing news anchors yet. May have to though after the Matt Lauer situation can have can have, you know, at least robots not getting too handsy. At least robots not locking women in a room. Yeah, that's a whole nother thing. Okay, so so anyway, I do worry about journalism

just as there's so many options, less places being kind of held to some kind of journalistic standard and more pressure on the good journalists. And now check this crazy shit out. All right, Crystal didn't just retweet the retweeted bot.tot. She also shared stories from obscure news outlets like conservativedailypost.com, which according to the investigative journalism done for the

Rolling Stone article I read appears to be a legit fake news site operated out of mass, uh, Macedonia during this past election. I know that sounds crazy, but this is real fake news. We're talking about now. Some other journalists at Buzzfeed found out that teenagers in this little deindustrialized, uh, person town of Les Macedonia published pro-Trump stories because they were profitable as clickbait, right? You know about the clickbait. Like when you're when you finish reading an article, there's all those weird little images down below than some sensational headline and half the time when you click, when you click the link, you never see the person from the image pop up in the story ever. Like, a lot of times like the headline

doesn't even match really the article you look at. And then when you get to the article, there's like, fuck, and 10 different ad popups. Just clickbait. Yeah, so these people in Macedonia, these kids, they found out they could make ad money based on site traffic by just publishing whatever pro-Trump news, seemed the most sensational,

whether it was real or not, which I believe that, man, that makes sense to me. This stuff always comes back to money. Borset, Projif, a Macedonian computer programmer has set up dozens of fake news sites for around a hundred euros a piece, and then it makes that money back in spades with, you know, with ads.

He said that Macedonians don't invent the fake news stories. They post telling a journalist, no one, no one here knows anything about American politics. They copy and paste from American sites, maybe then try to come up with a more dramatic headline. Alex Jones, Info Wars and Breitbart, he said, were among the Macedonians most common source material. Of course they were, because in both of those places are utter fucking sensationalistic nonsense. He said that mastoneans would have happily copied anti-Trump fake news too, but unfortunately, there just weren't any good US pro Clinton fake news sites copy and paste.

I believe that man. And again, I can't like partisan, but with Hillary Clinton, that was my main complaint when I was paid attention in the election, was that she just appeared so to me, fucking robotic and boring, right? You gotta fucking live it up, you gotta have a little charisma if you're gonna win election. God damn it. What do you think you can win on fucking principles? Get the fuck out of here, right? That doesn't work.

Not since TVs were invented. You gotta have some likability people. The liberals wanna win some elections, they gotta figure that shit out, man. Brock had some likability, some charisma, Hillary. Ugh. So, I mean, just to me, a lot of people, she just seemed like a fucking, just frump, just like, ugh, boring.

And that's not anything about women either. There's plenty of women candidates I would vote for. But, and you know, and if I would've paid attention more, I could have looked past it, I'm sure, and maybe her policies would have aligned with me. Maybe they wouldn't. Maybe I wouldn't like her policy. I probably wouldn't actually. But, again, tend to be a little more libertarian, I'd like to be left alone, less government over sides and some things. But anyway, for these Macedonians, not about politics, or not about politics. Just about sensationalistic stories that people are going to click on.

Man, that's a fucking crazy man. Taken headlines from Alex Jones, the crazy lunatic. If you don't know about Alex Jones, I've saw a video of this guy. Man, he weeping, weeping on his show a couple of years ago. He was so angry that Barack Obama was in the White House because he knew, he knew, for sure, that Barack was a demon. He knew it. He knew it.

He heard many reports that Barack smelled like sulfur. He would show video clips and of flies buzzing around Barack's face, share signs of being a minion of Satan. That is how backwards and medieval the piece of shit known as Alex Jones is. Or maybe he's worse. He recently claimed in the custody battle that he was just making the stuff up, just doing a character for his show. Oh, okay, that's all you're doing.

You're just making hundreds of thousands or millions of people believe that Hillary Clinton is either a pedophile or a bomb as a demon. But in real life, you're just a totally normal person. You're manipulative asshole, fuck Alex Jones. This is medieval, medieval ages type of nonsense. And again, this isn't a tech tech on conservatives who Alex Jones align This is medieval, medieval ages type of nonsense. And again, this isn't a tech tech on conservatives who Alex Jones aligns himself with. It's an attack on aggressive reckless stupidity.

And Europeans creating fake news websites to repeat the teachings of Alex Jones. That's what we've come to. In the world, bots retweeting lies by the thousands, by the millions, a massive disinformation campaign. Anyone can wage if they got the money. Terrifying. I used to watch Alex Jones videos on laugh, it's just what Loonie Tony is. Not sad to me now. I put him in the same category as David Ike.

That's not all sad. I do laugh some as well. But I put him in the same category as David Ike of the lizard illuminati, and for me. All right, so now let's talk about Douglas Hagman, back with Pete's Gate. Douglas Hagman is a self-employed private investigator and host of HagmanReport.com, a webcast that exposes the New World Order agenda.

Here we go. It was Hagman who four days after Common Cats first posted a story in six days before Election Day brought Pete's Gate from social media to fake news's largest stage. On the November 2nd broadcast of Alex Jones Info Wars, by the way, which is arguably the most influential conspiracy theory outlet in the country, 7.7 million unique visitors to that website every month. Alex Jones asked Hagman to tell his audience

what sources had revealed about emails recovered on Wiener's computer. The most disgusting aspect of this is the sexual angle. Hagman said, I don't want to be graphic or gross here based on my source. Hillary did in fact participate on some of the junkets on the Lolita Express based on my source. Any asshole can just say now that they have a source and sound legitimate. I'm just, you know what? I'm going to stop researching anything for this podcast. I'm just going to make up, make up all of it as I go along. And occasionally I'm just going to say based on my source, based on my source,

JFK was killed by none other than the hamburger. Based on my source, Michael mother fucking McDonald has won a hundred and 17 gram awards, even more impressive based on my source, he's won 12 Leedy Man Oscar Awards despite never acting in a movie. Based on my source, Michael Jordan is the greatest martial artist of all time. Based on my source, George Clooney,

and Oprah Winfrey are the same person. And that person is Tom Cruise based on my source. And then I'll reveal years from now that my source was none other than Bojangles, three leg and one eyed pitbull and master of disinformation. Bad Bojangles. Sluffing off on your research so you can do what? Fuck around with those afina. Hagman's story took off.

Google trends measures interest and topics among the 1.17 billion users of its search engine on a zero to 100 scale. On October 29th, the day cats posted the story on Facebook searches for Hillary and pedophile ranked zero. So no link. 96 hours later, when Hagman broke the story on InfoWars, InfoWars scored 100, the least to the max in four days. In April, Hagman agreed to meet with Amanda Robb,

investigative journalist for the investigative fund for a look at his courtroom ready documents on pizza gate proving all of this in Erie, Pennsylvania. And here's what Amanda learned. In October of 2016, Haggerman had claimed that he communicated with a friend who knows someone affiliated with the NYPD. This friend of the friend, here we go.

The old friend of a friend, song of dance, the friend of a friend had been on the task force that secured Wiener's computer and had copy documents onto a thumb drive, proving Clinton and her associates were involved in pedophilia. But then he says, now I can't get him to give me the thumb drive, dang it.

Or even admit, or I can't get him to even admit to the fact that he had it. And then when a man asked how he could possibly know that the file has existed, he said, I trust my source. How convenient yet you trust your source that won't give you the evidence or admit to having the evidence.

So where's the evidence I claimed having in a story that made millions of singularities a pedophile? It's in a thumb drive, okay, asshole. Where's the thumb drive? My source won't give it to me. Who's your source? A friend of a friend, okay, smarty pants. And you're sure this friend of a friend

has the information on this thumb drive. Not exactly. He is now saying he doesn't have it. I may have missed her. So you never even saw it. And now the person who told you it existed is saying they never had it either. Eh, yes, that's fairly accurate.

So why do you still believe the story? Because I trust my source, you question asking, piece of shit. Well, I can't you leave it at that. You and your insistence on actual evidence. Hagman launched into a synopsis of three decades of rumors that Clinton and her associates are lesbians and perverts. That's this is from the article I read. I love that that's how it came across.

Look buddy, I have three decades of rumors that she is both a lesbian and wait for it a pervert. Dun dun dun. No proof, no evidence. Who cares if she is a pervert. Just rumors probably started by people as paranoid and uninformed as he is. He referenced the unsubstantiated claims of Kathy O'Brien in his sources. She's a conspiracy theorist from Muskegon, Michigan, who alleged that she had been, she alleged that she had been held as a CIA sex slave in the MK Ultra, you know,

thing with the CIA and that she was forced to serve as Hillary Clinton. I looked up Kathy O'Brien and she is an obvious wackadoodle. Oh God, her claims show up on sketchy looking websites like transformation.com. We're one unsubstantiated claim after another is made. No footnotes or sources are ever listed, where she know that's one of the place she claims she's the victim of MK-Ultra, 1988.

And then she was rescued from that mind-controlled enslavement program and she went on to tell her story that she was Hillary's sex slave. And that the government's ultimate goal is to control the minds of every citizen. So we can always sex slaves to the Illuminati. This is what the city at the city. Get outta here. Being for my to hoe, there was a high percentage of paranoid nut jobs. I've been around people like Kathy, most of my life.

I've never met her, but I feel very confident that he might entire life on the fact that she is batshit crazy. It's a government really was doing that. They would have killed her to keep the secret from getting out. What are you talking about? Put somebody in a mind control experiment program, you make them be a sex slave to the first lady, and then you're just gonna let them go and talk about it.

Shut the fuck up. You'd be dead, Kathy, if that was true. You'd be so dead. I do believe the government probably kills people sometimes to shut them up. I feel like all governments probably do that here and there. You know, not that it's cool, but it's probably just logical,

but this shit's not logical. Get out of here. Hagman moved on to Clinton's close relationship with that weiner. Weiner's a strange wife, you know, Huma, and the allegation that her campaign manager, John Podesta and his brother Tony, sorry, this, it gets so crazy. This really is like a giant it to the internet. Oh, one of it is one of his things of information is that John Podesta and his brother Tony resemble sketches of suspects in the 2007 disappearance of four-year-old Madeline McCann in Portugal,

which I know the disappearance is not funny, but it's just like, it's just what, Hagman stopped himself then when he's talking to the man that said, I know this case is difficult, circumstantial. Circumstantial, it's crazy. What these guys kind of resemble sketches of people like that were probably half a world away. Like, like, they weren't even in Portugal when that stuff happened.

Like, like, oh my god, it's so crazy. You know, just let us look at exhibit A. Notice how the suspect kind of looks like the suspect in another unrelated crime. Half a world away. Sure, you say this man couldn't have committed this crime because he has a strong alibi. And his alibi is that he wasn't even born yet when the crime was committed. However, let me remind you that he kind of looks like Ted Bundy.

Look at him. Kind of looks like Ted Bundy. What about that? I say guilty. Like is it's just so fucking insane when Amanda asked this guy Hagman if he actually had any kind of verified information just anything at all Hagman Shuffle some papers He lifted one sheet, you know by corner And then with I guess a parent reluctance he turned over a color copy of an image,

showing a clean, un-injured boy wearing a green t-shirt in a dog cage. That's it. That was the strongest evidence he had. This kid could have just been playing inside of this cage instead of being held hostage. I have a dog kennel. And I'm pretty sure I have pictures of my kids in it.

And it was their idea. I know at the very least they got in there, because they thought it was funny to look like they were caged, right? And then Amanda said to this guy, Amanda the Investigator Journalist said to this Hagman, that might be a disturbing image, but I don't see what it has to do with Hillary Clinton and Hagman shrugged.

And then that was it. He goes, I hope you don't think this was a waste. Oh my God, These fucking morons. Ah, I do have some strong evidence. You just pull out like a random photo of just some person with no context that has nothing to do with your case. Well, look at this guy crossing the street. He may be the key to everything.

Or he might just be a guy crossing the street. And this is the guy who went on Info Wars talking about what he knew. This is the type of guest that Alex Jones has on that show. I got to hate Alex Jones. He is such an aggressive liar and agitator. A man who just waves the flag of truth so fervently when he has zero respect for truth. He's a charlatan, he's a fucking snake oil salesman. He'll wolf and sheep's clothing.

Well, the following month that awakened to the shaken, awakened to the shaken, a Bible conference in Gurnialinoi, Hagman presented his evidence to an audience of about 40 million middle-aged churchgoers. His courtroom ready exhibits included the Wikipedia entry for fake news, the new Oxford dictionary definition of post-truth, a quote by John Wayne, and a photo of people sitting on a couch wearing horse masks. A photo of scars on the fingers of John Podesta, and the kicker, a photo of a decapitated body that Hagman said was the victim of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer. And another of a sculpture in Tony Podesta's home,

a sculpture titled The Arch of Historia, that he said looked kind of like Dahmer's victim. Oh, how crazy is this? He's touting his evidence of someone's evilness, a statue that kind of looks like a picture of one of Dommer's victims. Even Fox Molder from the X-Files would laugh this stuff off. You know, I just pictured this guy,

you know, this crazy presentation, you know, which is all this unrelated random stuff. It's the work of the Illuminati. Look at this evidence. Look at this apple laying on a counter. That is the same shape as the head of the founder of the Freemasons. Look at how round both the apple and the head are. Uncanny, right? Uncanny, similar. And look at this. Look at this crumpled up receipt we found in the cousin of the friend of John Podesta's trash can. If you look at it in the right light, in the right light, at the right angle, it looks exactly.

Like another crumpled-up receipt found in the basement of John Wayne Gacy. Child killer. And look at this picture of him. Look at this picture of Podesta resting his chin in his hands, his fingers forming a triangle with the table, his hands arresting on. The Ill illuminati triangle he's thrown in our faces. He is practically screaming, I fuck kids and pizza basements. The horror, the evilness.

Two days after Hagmins appearance on Info Wars, Eric Prince, the brother of Trump's secretary of education, Betsy DeVos, confirmed that the terrible rumor was true in an interview on Breitbart. Now Prince is best known as the founder of the private military company BlackwaterUSA. On Breitbart Radio, Prince painted a picture to stir things up. He says because of Weinergate and the 16 scandal, the NYPD started investigating. He said they found a lot of other really damning criminal information including money laundry, including the fact that Hillary went to this sex island with convicted pedophile

Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton went there at least 20 times. Hillary Clinton went there at least six times. I love also that Epstein's island, or sex with teen girls, did go, did happen, did go on, is now just a sex island, as if that's all that happens there. Like you step off the plane into some Romanesque pedophile orgy where it's nothing but dick and pus. Right, just most of it under age. It's 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

Just Lou being dropped off every hour on the hour by drones, boats of sex slaves. We don't load it every morning, just sex slaves. Get your fresh, sex slaves. Welcome to Sex Island folks. Get some free diet by Agra. Grab a whip to your fresh sex slaves. Welcome to sex island folks. Get some free diet Viagra. Grab a whip to whip your sex slave. Signing Prince is an interview Alex Jones fumes when I think about all the children. This

is a quote by supposedly a trusted new source. He says when I think about all the children Hillary Clinton has personally murdered and chopped up and raped. Yeah, you heard me right. Hillary Clinton has personally murdered children. Jones video was viewed on YouTube more than 427,000 times. Prince's interview was shared another 81,000 times mother fucker with no evidence. He's telling his listeners that Hillary Clinton raped murders and chops up children. That shit is not okay. Alex Jones should be buried in lawsuits.

He should owe 10 lifetimes worth of money to all the people whose lives he is recklessly endangered by leading a portion of the public to believe they are preposterous monsters. Now around this time Clinton campaign staff for Podesta, notice, excuse me, Podesta spirit cooking emails reveal Clinton's inner circle as sex cult with connections to human trafficking. That's a headline on a website called danger and play.com.

Also, Podesta practices a cult magic as a headline on the Dredge report. And then he saw Alex Jones shouting that Clinton is an abject psychopathic demon from hell who smells like sulfur. It's even weirder. After users on HN read a protest email that revealed the Democratic activist David Brock had dated the owner of Comet Ping Pong, Pizzeria, James, Alephantis, and the citizen investigators considered Brock their arch enemy, right? Because he had vowed correct the record, a super political action committee that defended Clinton against defamation by online trolls. Suddenly, morons begin to see sinister meaning in the dimension of pizza. Any mention of pizza. For instance, the first letters in the words cheese pizza are the same as in child porn, CP, as I said in the beginning.

And cheese, 2016, and so many of our citizens are no smarter than the people who sentenced innocent people to death during these Salem witch trials. You know, this is like, fuck, this kind of stuff reminds me of like the Spanish Inquisition, just witch hunt mentality alive and strong. Well, the election comes and goes, Pizza Gate remains strong. Several Twitter accounts tweeted exclusively about Pizza Gate to a number of influencers, such as of course Info Wars after the elections even over one Twitter account at pizza underscore gate caught the attention of Mehmet Ali Onell Turkish TV anchor and now who has 196,000 Twitter followers was one of dozens of Turkish commentators who claimed Americans had no right calling

out Turkey for sex crimes that were going on there in that country with pizegate erupting in their own capital. One of the most shared pizegate tweets was posted by the anchor on November 16th, roughly translated it reads USA, hashtag Pizzagate shaken by the pedophilia scandals. So that shit is real news now in Turkey. Several hours after O'Neill sent his November 16th tweet, a web troll named Jack Procebic went to investigate Comet Ping Pong and another and another pizzeria live streaming the visit on periscope he described evidence of what's really going on a double-pane of glass near an oven security cameras a texting cashier

it's all there you got it's all there people you see you hear the three things i said security cameras that every business has a texting cashier that ever business has a double-pane of glass near an oven. I don't fucking know, but who cares? He paused, worrying his viewers might not understand the situation. He says it's like the movie Jurassic Park. Nedry had the shaving cream bottle and you could press the top and a little bit of shaving cream came out.

The bottom part is where they had the dinosaur embryos. This is just like stupid pile on top of stupid pile of the Twitter sphere went wild. The previous day, there were roughly 6000 tweets about pizza. Now there's closer to 55,000 because of this asshole info wars post another video called pizza gate is real. On November 27th, Joan spent half an hour explaining the story. Something's being covered up. He told his audience.

All I know is God help us. We are in the hands of pure evil hours later. later, he released another video down the Petzigate rabbit hole. On December 1st, the show posted Petzigate, the bigger picture. And meanwhile, in North Carolina, that dude Edgar, Madison Welch, the man who would fire shots, you know, into the comment ping-pong Petzigate, he's watching all this shit. He's obsessed with the Petzigate coverage. By the evening of December 4th, he's going to be in solitary confinement in a Washington, DC jail where fucking Alex Jones should be with him. Nearly a year after the election, in three separate hearings with members of Congress,

executive from Twitter, Facebook, and Google took turns expressing contrition for hosting Russia's attempts to manipulate US public opinion, a Facebook vice president said it pains us as a company. You know, that foreign actors abused our platform. Twitter's general counsel said he too was troubled as the power of Twitter had been misused. So that is how it just lie after lie, after lie, just snowballing and then bots,

you know, pushing things. We'll never know probably exactly who truly, you know, started this. Obviously it was somebody who wanted Trump to win for whatever reason, who started this whole pizza cake nonsense, and people are still talking about it. It's been over a year since the election now, and people are still talking about this event as if it really happened. People I refer to as idiots of the internet. Okay, so I know this whole show is just basically, it is the Internet today, but for today's

Idiots of the Internet segment, I looked at a brand new YouTube video that came out just this past weekend, posted by user David Seaman, a true Wacadoodle. Oh, if you need another Wacadoodle in your life, you look up David Seaman. This is not the retired English goalkeeper, David Seaman, not the British DJ. Now, this one's all American. And he's a real piece of work. He describes himself on his YouTube bio

as, I report the truth, often socially liberal, fiscally conservative, and curious. That's how I describe myself, you fucking prick. Don't take that from me. I'm socially liberal, I'm fiscally conservative, very conservative when it comes to crime and punishment. And I'm curious, but I'm not a fucking wacky Do you like you? I'm my own kind of wacky. Anyway, he says always human and this is what scares me

He says former contributor to the Huffington Post business insider Maybe you've seen me on as a guest in the past ABC News digital coast to coast CNN headline news BBC half post live the young Turks, Fox News. All right, coast to coast, I get. But the rest of those places are in theory, supposed to be legitimate news sources. Ah, they fucking pissed me off though.

The Huffington Post, to me, is as bad as Fox News now. It's like, I don't even read the Huffington Post. I'm like, all right, it's gonna be a liberal hack job. You're just gonna attack conservatives, Fox News. Okay, just gonna be conservative hack job. Just gonna attack liberals. You guys just fucking become unre gonna be conservative, hack job, just gonna attack liberals. You guys just fucking become unreliable assholes when it comes to actual journalists of integrity.

Okay, so keep all his credits in mind though, as we walked through this video. He's gotten on all these networks as a journalist. He has almost 160,000 YouTube subscribers. And on December 2nd, just the other day, he posted a video called, Pizzagate and Podesta. Deep state, checkmate. Let's listen to a little bit of it.

Let's be unbelievably clear about one thing. Pizzagate has not been debunked, right? It has not been debunked. What is John Podesta talking about in his emails? What is he talking about? He's published by WikiLeaks, and which have since been reviewed and read by millions of us all over the world.

What is this very important man talking about to other wealthy people in the Washington, D.C. What is he talking about? What is he talking about excitedly, right? What kind of pizza? If he's so excited about this pizza, he came across. What kind of pizza is it? Is it a margarita pizza?

Brokeland style gluten free. Never any mention of the kind of pizza or where it's from. No mention of any restaurants. The same when he's talking about hot dogs. Do you hear what's going on here? Because because he hasn't referenced in this email the specific pizza place and because he's also talking about hot dogs and because he's not talking about pizza in the descriptive way that this idiot would like him to, he has to be a pet file. That's the logic leap he makes here.

Or, or he's just talking to people who already know the place he's talking about and using shorthand like we all do. And my text and emails with friends, if we're talking about a place that we've already gone to a bunch of times, I don't lay out, hey guys, would you like to go again to the place we went yesterday?

The place known as Comit Ping Pong Pizza. The place that has the very specific types of pizza that we enjoy, pizza's like a margarita pizza. I will have a large, what kind will you have? I enjoy their prices. No, you just like, hey man, I go grab some pizza game. Same spot, cool man. Yeah, the walnut sauce is fucking off the chain.

Now, you use your own whatever little shorthand. And I love that he's also acting like people in power would never talk about pizza, especially not in vague ways. You know, like they only talk about money. All right, we're going to make a billion dollars today. Correct. Yes.

Yes. Correct. Another billion is the expensive humanity. Awesome. That's what I was hoping for. What about food? We don't talk about food. We only talk about money and power always.

I said behind this idiot, as he's talking is a handwritten poster that says, wait to fuck up. Uh, it should say, I'm off my meds or maybe I could really use some sleep or maybe I'm in a real dark place right now And I'm scared and I'm confused Well under this video Idiot Deborah are posts first saying can't we sue the government all caps or FBI all caps Back to the lower case for not looking into P2Gate after one year of informing them so many question marks.

No, Deborah, we can't because it's nonsense. That's why you can't sue someone over something that's complete and utter bullshit. You can sue, you know, people for a lot of stuff now in our country, because litigation's out of hand can't sue over a fucking nonsense pizza story as it turns out. So now take your computer and smash it into a million pieces. Reading shit online is only making you dumber. First reply to Deborah comes from Think Tank founder and obvious men's a member, dog sings,

who posts FBI in on it. Top officials are Satanists. Well, there you go, America. Top dog, just fucking nailed it. You know, dog sings, excuse me, top dog, dog sings, whatever, right? Officials are Satanist, top officials are Satanist. It's a fact as told by user dog sings. Then user divergence says it's happening. Destroying the fake news is one of the first steps and Trump is currently taking them down one by one.

What? I'd look, I don't again, again, again, again. I don't care if you love Trump, all right? But please don't love him because you think he's draining the swamp. He's not. He's the fucking swamp thing. He's one of the monsters in the swamp.

He's not a swamp thing. I actually love the swamp thing. I'm gonna retract that because I love that character. But he's in the swamp. He's like, right? You like his business policy is fine. You like his social issues,

his stance is fine. You know, agree to disagree. You think he's taking on the system and bringing him down, get the fuck out of here. It's all self-serving for him and his own business interest. Come on. He's part of the system. He's part of the people in power over there.

He's old money. Okay, so user states even at her, AKA vapid hate monger posts, referring to Podesta, people that powerful never go to jail. The best thing that could happen to him is all caps. Street justice. However, rich assholes like him usually have security teams.

Keep it up, Mr. Seaman. Your courage is inspiring. It's great to see there are still all caps real men in this country leaked emails. How about that horribly disturbing all caps audio of that creep torturing a little boy? Like I said, the best thing that could happen to him would be to be presented as a Christmas gift to the parents of one of his young victims. Stacey, you vile ignorant asshole piece of shit. If Podesta ever does get injured or killed because of this, you should go to jail.

You and Alex Jones, right? The stuff is dangerous. Encourage, encourage others to kill somebody for being a satanic pedophile. When there's no evidence, when it's all made up. The comment ping pong owners received tons of death threats because of this shit, not okay. Think about the satanic daycare scare of the 1980s I talked about in the Mandela Effect episode.

When all those innocent daycare providers were accused of being satanic pedophiles, part of some huge pedophile conspiracy, people went to prison, right? For that families were destroyed, lives were ruined, businesses were bankrupted, and then years later revealed it was all bullshit. False memory syndrome and full effect combined with religious hysteria, combined with poor criminal investigation.

And the same irresponsible nonsense is back with this story. And then there's this crazy amount of posts made on this video by obvious bots, fake accounts. That's definitely on my brain now. Tons of different accounts that have the same exact type of user pick. Like, because a user name is Patricia May, which one of them is, then the account picture is also just the words Patricia May, but because YouTube requires a circular picture to be your user profile, the edges of the letters are cut off, and the font is the same for one poster after another. It's just their name, same font, edges cut off

in the same way over and over and over and over again. Just all these fake comments, kicking out, or fake bots, fake accounts, kicking out fake comments that report the same type of, let's get them, kind of vibe, pushing the same agenda. One account that doesn't look fake to me, user rising son 49 posts utter paranoid insanity. He says, yeah, why did he write?

You can go have fun with chicken or chicken livers. I don't think this one's going to make it through the night, but you can have fun with her. Chicken means child and pito tongue. There were so many others we can dissect and now exactly and know exactly what he meant. He's talking about raping children to death. He has a bad temper just by listening to him when he's being interviewed, when he doesn't like what's being said. He raises his voice and gets enraged. Those poor little kids, I think John is a serial killer of children. You think he's a serial killer of children?

I think John is a serial killer of children. You think he's a serial killer of children? Because he's mentioned chicken in an email and he has a temper when he does press conferences. When people say things he doesn't like, God, you fucking, you're such a goddamn idiot. It makes me so mad. Chicken means child and pito tongue. That's actually kind of true.

Like isn't chicken hawk? It can. It can mean someone praying on the young. It can also mean chicken. It can also mean the food, you fucking lunatic. Talking about raping children to death. No, he's not. No, he is not. Oh, thank God for you, time sucker, seriously.

If I wasn't constantly reminded of things to you, there are so many intelligent and actually curious people in this nation, people who still don't cognitively dwell in the dark ages, I would honestly be forming an extra plan to get the fuck out of this country when my kids graduate from high school Not kidding. The ignorance depresses me so much. Makes me feel very alone and terrified Makes me feel like I'm just surrounded by easily manipulated hateful morons who year after year waste their time Focusing on this shit instead of actually paying attention to the real problems in our society You know, it'd be nice if we could come together, conserve those Anne Liberals, and go after

the real enemy, corporate greed. And not some evil cartoonish greed. You know, we just have fallen into a system where our retirement investment accounts are only significantly increasing value when the Dow Jones jumps up. And that only happens when giant companies post bigger and bigger profit margins than ever before. And those profit margins come with the expense of the salaries of the same people investing in the stock market, the very same stock market that is oppressing them.

I'm one of these people. So I can eventually retire. It's just a fucked up system. And I don't know how to fix it. But I think about it a lot. I think about it more and more all the time. You know what I don't think about is dumb shit, illuminati, satanic pedophile bullshit that's just a distraction,

keeping us from the real problems. This is boogie man shit man. And this is don't go out in the woods cause there's a witch living out there. There's a troll careful across in that bridge, you know? That's where the troll is. We gotta rise above that type of thinking. When are we gonna do it?

And we're not gonna do it unless we double down on education, good critical thinking, focus on accurate historical analysis and scientific fundamentals, that type of thinking. You know, if we don't do that, we're never going to rise above this. We're going to forever have an enormous percentage of the population dwelling in the intellectual muck in the mire that is the cesspool, cesspool home of the it is of the internet. of the it is of the internet. It is the internet. And fake news turns out that's what pizza gate is really about, truly fake news. And my mush mouth is always get a population, you know, to not only lose trust in mainstream

media, but to become convinced that mainstream journalists are nothing but lying manipulative hate mongers, members of elite secret societies out to destroy everything, you and your family care about and stand for it and that population starts to look elsewhere for information. And elsewhere, as we found here today, can get really scary, really quick. The AP may not always get everything right to associate a press because they're an association comprised of human beings in perfect like the rest of us, but the AP is an independent nonprofit organization with oversight and ethics boards who work to provide the most factual reporting possible,

with an emphasis on avoiding conflicts of interest and reporting. There is a focus on their journalistic integrity, and there are still some bad AP journalists. Of course there are, right? MSNBC, that anchor, you know, got Brian Wims lying about having a helicopter he was traveling in an Iraq hit by an RPG. He was suspended without pay for six months. All their surveyed mistakes

as well. But at the end of the day, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, you know, biases as they may have are still a lot, a hell of a lot more reliable than info wars, you know, with Alex Jones, the news equivalent of Star Magazine or the weekly world news, you know, places, a place where people blatantly lie and make up stories based on nothing but hearsay or worse, based on nothing at all. They were just making up shit to boost their views. And even worse thrown in, you know, just enough truth to muddy the waters, give them enough legitimacy to make their outright lies and slander seam legitimate.

And when people start looking to these conspiracy nuts and I do mean nuts for the truth, they start to lose touch with reality. Wonder how people start to believe in stuff like the lizard illuminati and a flat earth? Because they've lost faith in mainstream media. And they have chosen to believe in fringe lunatics who've convinced a small group of people in power are constantly manipulating them. They're people who odds are never study critical thinking or how to analyze media and they put themselves in a position where they're unable to discern truth from fiction. Suddenly a group of reptilian overlords controlling

the human race because they need our emotional turmoil to survive sounds as plausible, if not more plausible, than large corporations using their immense bank accounts to hire armies of lawyers and lobbyists who can bribe and bully Capitol Hill and to consistently passing legislation that serves their corporate profit slash Wall Street goals of keeping investors happy by constantly posting higher and higher profit margins and taking over a larger and larger market share. Money makes the world go around always has, but not in some secret society way. It's right out there in the open. Right out there in the open for all of us to see, to study, to dissect, just basic human

greed, man, used to belong to the kings and queens and other conquerors of the world. CEOs and corporate founders of the new conquerors. Grabbing that bigger and bigger share of the international marketplace, right? That's the new colonialism. But that's not fun to think about. It's complicated. It's an economic trend.

It feels impossible to reverse in moments. It feels inevitable sometimes. It's nuanced and involved, right? It's hard to get your head around. Easier, for some some to think that a small group of people are just evil. And they're just they're just fucking with this, you know? They're satanic pedophiles. They're lizard people. And if we could stop them, maybe we could make the world right, according to whatever we happen to think right even is. You know? The earth

isn't round. NASA. It's a bunch of liars. Scientists are liars. They just want to take our money and give it to the Illuminati. Paranoia to believe this stuff, nonsense. That's why we need to educate ourselves on the actual voting records and policies and platforms, politicians vote whenever we can. Me too, man, I need to up my game. You know, we need to prioritize education. Oh, God, man, for 12 years, I've been bitching and doing very little about anything and anything at all.

And in your real way with politics, and I'm changing that. I'm changing that. I'm reading more than ever. Oh, I'm changing that. I'm changing that. Reading more than ever. Oh, I wanna get somebody in the White House, maybe just has a human agenda, not a liberal agenda, not a conservative agenda. That's what I think about for me. How can I make the world a little better,

a little more fair, a little more bearable and enjoyable for the common man? And of course, the common woman, Hilton Rot. Bad ideas, fester in the muck of the chronically poor and multi generationally uneducated and certain wealthy people in power just love that. They love that. They love to, you know, add to those bad ideas to give them shape and form and help push their own agendas. It makes increasing their obscene wealth that much easier. They love keeping us dumb and distracted, keeping us fired up about nonsense like pizza gate.

When we should be angry over limited access to health care, a failing education system in many of our cities, a housing and higher education market that keeps getting farther and farther out of reach for the majority of the population. Checked it's sound is recently as five years ago, the US spent more on education than the average spent per student by other developed nations. But in a study conducted in 2010 by the organization for economic cooperation and development, the United States spent more than 11,000 per elementary student and more than 12,000 per high school student.

When researchers factored in the cost for programs after high school educations, such as college or vocational training, the United States spent 15,171 dollars on each young person in the system, more than any other nation covered in the report. That's some inch past, some developed countries, developed countries and far surpassed other Switzerland's total spending for two and was 14,900 Mexico average 2,900 in 2010.

The average OECD nation spent 9,300 per young person. The United States spent 7.3% of its gross domestic product education compared with 6.3%. That was the average for the other OECD countries, but the OECD conducted a new study this year and the results are troubling. US spending on elementary and high school education declined 3% from 2010 to 2014, even as its economy prospered

and its student population grew slightly by 1%. Boiling down to a 4% decrease in spending per student. Over the same period, education spending on average rose 5% per student across the 35 countries in the OECD. Some school districts in Oklahoma cut down the number of school days to four from five each week because the budget cuts back. And with the increase spending the burden on US teachers

continues to grow. US teachers teach close to a thousand hours a year compared to 600 hours in Japan and 550 hours in Korea. In these countries teachers might specialize in one course, such as Algebra 1, teach it only a few periods a day. The rest of their work week is spent on other activities such as preparing lessons, giving feedback to students. We're still spending more on average than other developed nations, but we're moving in

the wrong direction. We may be the leaders of the developed nations, but we're moving in the wrong direction. We may be the leaders of the free world, but we're not currently the leaders in education anymore. One of the biggest cross-national tests is the program for international student assessment, PISA, which every three years measures reading ability, math, and science literacy and other key skills among 15 year olds and dozens of developed and developing countries. The most recent PISA results from 2015 placed the U.S. 38th out of 71 countries of math, 24th in science, even worse among the 35 members

of the organization for economic cooperation and development, which sponsors the P.I.S.A. initiative, the U.S. ranked 30th in math and 19th in science, 30th out of 35 other developed Western countries, that's terrible, that's scary, that's not leading. That's putting ourselves in a mental place to be taken advantage of by people in power to believe in gibberish like pizza gate by de-emphasizing education,

or fertilizing an anti-intellectual movement in this country. This attitude of, you may have a degree and you may have your book learning, but I know what I know, dude Growing up in a small rural town. I've met tons of people who look down on higher education Really seemed almost despise it this attitude of well that may work in the books and such But I live in the real world, buddy. I graduated from the school of hard knocks and look practical experience and hands-on learning has a Mense value, but so does education and you just can't beat the combination of strong education Combined with strong hands-on real-life experience.

And if you don't believe that, you've allowed yourself to become too stupid to know what you don't know. Ugh, I just hired a young man with an audio engineering degree to increase the sound quality of this podcast because I know enough to know I'm not as smart as he is when it comes to sound engineering. I've dicked around on the internet for a few months. I didn't study it for two years like he did. This podcast becomes as successful as I hope it does. As I wanted to, I would love to hire some with the masters or a doctorate in historical research

and investigative journalism because I know they would help so much with the episodes. They're gonna catch things I can't. You know, and I'll learn from them. I'd love to get, you know, I'd love to go back myself and get a history degree if I had the time right now. I value education, always have,

which I had a master's degree, which I had a doctorate and not for the title, not for some prestige, just for the knowledge. Man, knowledge really is power. I work with a professional literary editor in that Jesse Domener, you've heard me think, because he catches grammatical flaws. I don't, because I don't know as much as he does about grammar. He's much more educated than I am in that regard. If I really had time, I should probably work with the speech there this

over about a year. But yeah, but be curious and question the information around you time suckers. That's the spirit of this podcast. Man, that's the will of Nimrod. That's what pleases his profitable jangles and his bard, Michael Mothafucka McDonald, and his other bard, James So Smoothie, makes silk seem like sandpaper ingram.

It's the ethos of time suck. But also Walt Cush question, you also learn to trust sometimes. Trust that not everyone is out to get you. Trust the people who have a degree in journalism, probably on average, are a little better presenting journalistic information than someone who doesn't. Double check mainstream media sources as opposed to ignoring them. And you know, and or just looking to some subreddit or Twitter, the same lies been reposted a thousand different ways. On the TimeSuck app, I've included PDF downloads

to my notes from all of my episodes for full transparency. They might not be as organized as you would like. Sometimes the links for footnotes don't appear in the proper places they should, because I'm just fucking busy trying to get these episodes out, but I put everything I find there. I put it, it's all in the document somewhere, and you can check it. You can check my sources. Please do, you know, you can put everything I find there. It's all in the document somewhere and you can check it. You can check my sources. Please do. You can see that I work hard to give you

the best info possible. I'm not trying to hide anything. If I make a mistake, it's at a human error, not out of some agenda. We cannot let our nation fall into idiocracy. Please. Sometimes I think we're in real trouble as a society. We're just letting the Internet become the majority. We got to fight ignorance, got to combat it with intellectual curiosity. We got to keep debunking conspiracies, keep skewering destructive cults, keep mocking it to the internet, keep learning, keep thinking, keep talking and debating, keep updating, keep on fucking sucking. And now you wonderful, beautiful bastards, It's time for some top five takeaways.

Time suck, top five takeaways. Number one, there is zero evidence that John Podesta, or Hillary Clinton, or any other high-ranking DC insider, ran or was even involved in a pedophile ring. And there certainly isn't evidence in a pizza place being involved. Number two, there is evidence that Edgar Madison Welch fired a rifle into comment ping pong on December 4, 2016 in an attempt to rescue kids. He believed we're being held captive,

molested and raped in the pizza places basement, and he is now serving four years in prison because he believed in pizza gate. Number three, billionaire Jeffrey Epstein is connected socially to the Clintons and Trump and for sure as a pedophile. He's a level 3 sex defender. He did run a sex trafficking ring of sorts, and he did get off easy, but that doesn't

make anyone he has ever known or hung out with anyone he's ever brought on his playing guilty by association. Right? Matt Lauer appears to be a sexual predator. Should NBC also fire Cassie Lee Gifford because she worked with him? Right? She was friends with them. Does that make her guilty by association? Of course not. You know, it doesn't make her guilty and you know, and guilty by association does not apply to Pizzigate. And as I made clear earlier, Cassie Lee Gifford is a robot and robots can't be held accountable for their actions.

Number four, if you have the money, you can actually hire people to manipulate social media and web-based news in ways I did not realize were possible before today. You can reach wheat a lie so many times it starts to feel like the truth. Any lie, we're entering a dangerous time regarding disinformation. Pizza Gate is going to be far from the last unfounded conspiracy to bring about actual harm. Rumors can kill. We gotta be careful. And number five, new info, comment ping pong. Despite all the bad press, currently has a three and a half out of five star rating on Yelp. For 730 reviews, it's a $2 sign pizza

place on Yelp where you can get a pizza or a call zone from anywhere from $9 to $17. And strangely, some of the poor reviews have been left by customers upset that they don't have kids on the menu. Customers, like Yelp reviewer, Chikotilo still alive, 666, who posted recently, when do kids on menu? I hear so much pita-gita, I look forward to vigorous rastling of children. I look forward to working up appetite, pulling out cock-stuffed, like wad of evil putty. I look forward to hard-tugging of shamecock, like giant worn-out plastic tube, like old rubber band that has lost snap. Instead I get calzone, and ask to leave, when pull down a sweatpants and counter, what

is my deal? I stretch in penis, I look more like dog chew toy than sex, lorgan, when nervous, one star. Time suck, tough, five take away. Alright, that was Pete's get you guys. I hope he's still, I hope he's not just so tired of Chikotillo by now. He's still funny to me. Who knows how much longer that'll last. Hope we didn't see this as a partisan attack. It really wasn't that what really wasn't the attempt of this, you know I feel like the problem of Pete's to get run spardate for the any one political party. Okay, sometimes suck news

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Much easier to find later in the emails and they are from private messages on social media. And actually the new website and the new mobile website still do have that contact form to go straight to this place. You can just do it from the website. And we are working on getting that here as soon as possible on the app. You will have a contact button on the app where you can send your message straight from the app.

That is gonna happen. Special shout out to young time sucker at Maverick Mason 66 on Instagram for being just a cool dude. Thanks to Sydney Shies for killing on social media, Harmony Velocamp for all of her help. Jesse Dobner for his editing wizardry once again. And then next week, Griselda Blanco, Lama Drina, the black widow, the cocaine godmother, the queen of narco trafficking, Satan's

Pomeranian. Okay, I just made up that last nickname, but I like it. Satan's Pomeranian, but the other ones are legit. Griselda was a Colombian drug lord of the Medellin cartel and a pioneer in the Miami-based cocaine drug trade. An underworld during the 1970s and early 80s before she took two bullets to the head. Actually, she didn't take the two bullets to the head until 2012. The age of 69 still gangster. Shit, how did this woman become a major player

in the man's world of narco trafficking by being a bad motherfucker? The godmother rumored to have been responsible for roughly 200 deaths. Who is this woman? A real life Lucifina? Well, find out next week. Find out Monday on Time Suck. And I will figure out some options for the December 15th Friday bonus suck for you to vote

on here very soon, and I'll post those options on Instagram. Now, let's get to the, close to the curious time for some time sucker updates. First one today is an update of an old episode, an update to episode time suck episode 16 is we getting dumbest. A suck on the current state of education in America seems fitting for this week's episode. This comes in from a young sucker by the name of Shane. He says, Hey, Dan, this is Shane. The guy who drew that terrible picture of you.

It wasn't terrible. But this isn't about that. I was recently watching your, uh, is we getting Dumber's episode? And I heard you say that you wished there was a common sense class in school. Well, I thought I would tell you that at my school, starting next year, my senior year, there was going to be a senior life preparation class where they teach students about the things they should get ready for in the future, such as tax, rent, stocks, overall just common sense. So your wish has been granted at least in my school. Keep on sucking master sucker.

You make me curious to learn more about this ball or disc of earth. Hail Nimroth. Hail Nimroth, Shane. I love it. A life preparation class. That is so great. I feel like that's so important. I mean, we have to focus on history, critical thinking, math, science, literacy, of course,

but also how to pay your fucking bills, how to pay your taxes, how to invest so you can put your life in a position where you don't have to work forever, where you can focus on continuing to learn and other things that you get old and not just have to work all the time. So you're not always confused and financially struggling. Great to hear Shane, man, thanks for sending me that,

send that my way. I have not heard about something like that. I love it. BTK update from Time Sucker, Asella's Clotum. Hopefully I'm saying your first name right, ASELLUS. I have not met another person by that name. Asella says, came to Time Suck through Dork Forest and I'm enjoying it immensely. Just finished the BTK episode in a big, some very important questions. First, other than Wichita, does Kansas have any city names of its own? That is pretty funny. We do reuse names a lot in this country, right?

You'll have the same name of one city in seven different states. Second is BTK proved that dipshit can be monsters or that monsters can be dipshit. Further studies required, and I'm frankly disheartened, that no BTK interviewer has come at it from that angle. Holy shit, what a dumb fuck the guy was. As far as murderers go, I really can't think of a better example of someone so confidently something through life until his luck ran out. That is funny, yeah. I mean, obviously he was good at just like not talking to people in a social circle about what he was doing, not slipping up with evidence at home, you know, not getting caught that way, but yeah, he was also not a real, you know, intellectual dude. You know, more careful than intelligent,

a good planner, methodical, maybe not hyper intelligent. Yeah, and definitely got a little too cocky at the end with the police. Finally, I just wanted to mention as its recurring statement, sentiment with you, in the more murdery episodes that the sociopath with a shitty childhood thing is a bit of a myth. While there's outliers such as the recurring statement, sentiment with you, in the more murdery episodes that the sociopath with a shitty childhood thing is a bit of a myth. While there's outliers such as the Iceman, you know,

and by large, we've learned that most violent sociopaths stop stores are bullshit, and the cycle of violence narrative is usually just that a narrative. I only mention this, I only mention this as it is a myth that haunts many people with truly traumatizing upbringing. People who are abused as children often live in constant fear of when their own monster will surface do entirely to the pervasiveness of this narrative so the less people spreading

it around the better for everyone. That is an interesting point. Yes, have any tough childhood and being raised by monsters should not make someone worry that they themselves are going to become a monster. As you have the day, it is a choice to be a killer. And you can't blame anyone but yourself for choosing to be a piece of shit. And then he goes,

I wish I had some specific sources locked in order for you, but I believe research along these lines has cited in the books, The Wisdom of Psychopaths, Liars, Lovers, and Heroes, and The Psychopath Next Door. The comic creator and abuse survivor Dean Trip, also has spoken to this at length

at several podcasts, specifically, Smod Co's Fat Man on Batman. Not trying to admonish just in light and keep up the good work. Thanks, thank you, Celis. I appreciate it, man. I appreciate the info. Flat Earth update from a NASA time sucker.

This comes in from Time Sucker, Jonah Ryman, saying, Dan, I've just started listening to your podcast a couple weeks ago, and I'm listening to one or two a day at work. I was struggling through another Friday and just got to your flatter theory one. Funniest fucking shit I've ever heard. I work for NASA. And all your references have completely turned around my day.

I told my coworkers to listen and even when this job sucks, fluid system design sounds a lot more enjoyable than guarding a cliff around Antarctica. Keep up the good work. I'm excited to see other podcasts keep progressing. Thanks, Jonah. I also am glad you're not stuck in the ice wall patrol, buddy. That's sound that that does sound rough, man. Just keeping people from falling into space. And last for today, another BTK update, straight from Kansas.

Dear Mr. Dan, the Suck Master Master, the Suck Cummins, my wife and I wanted to message you to say, thank you for covering BTK, a horrifying reign of terror that ourselves, our friends and families remember all too well. It was a little surreal to hear the timeline and knowing exactly the locations you spoke about. I was in fifth grade when Raider started dropping off packages around Wichita and was finally caught. A quick story to add to the potential victims' list blurb. A friend of mine's coworker lived in Wichita on the 70s and came home to find her phone cord cut. When she asked her roommate why the phone wasn't working, the roommate said, a guy from ATT came by earlier to bury a new line in the yard but needed a shovel. They immediately left the house and told police. Yeah, member of Rator worked for ADT.

A few do-cheek corrections that don't really seem to matter or affect the facts of the story, but his locals mattered us. The town of Salina is pronounced with a long eye sound, not a long e-sound, Salina and K-A-K-A-K-E news that simply pronounced its cake. And it must defend my all the matter and say, Wu-Shok is the best mascot in higher education. Go Shocks! On a side note, my wife and I both got bachelor's in psychology from which it's a toss state, just wanted to share the commonality. Thanks so much for the incredible podcast, my wife and I both got bachelor's in psychology from Wichita State just wanted to share the commonality. Thanks so much for the incredible podcast. My wife and I hope to meet you one day. If you ever come close to Wichita,

sorry the looney bin was such a let down. Till next time, keep off sucking. Alex and Kaitland friend. Wow man, scary shit about your friend's coworker. That's nuts, nuts. Yeah, and I did get a lot of emails about Salinas. It always cracks me up in the production of a place, changes probably from what it was supposed to be

because of the original language of the word gets lost. Like, I bet you that Salinas was supposed to be Salinas because I bet the origin is still Spanish, but it got Americanized. And yeah, man, and I heard emails from other people too about me bagging on which I was just bagging on the loody bin. I'm sure which talk is fine, and I would emails from other people too about me begging on which show. I was just begging on the loody bin. I'm sure Wichita is fine, and I would love to do a show there someday.

Love it, love it, hope that happens. And thanks for sending that in, fellow students of the human mind and go shocks. And I know Tony, you write in and don't make it to the updates when the secret suck comes out in February. So many more of your voices are gonna be hurt. You know, a lot more updates on that one. It's gonna be mostly updates, even.

It's gonna be great. Thanks for continuing to write in. Can't wait for the extra podcast to include so much more of you into our growing community. Thank you, time suckers. Thanks, time suckers. I need a net. We all did. Thanks everybody, extra thanks this week to Australian time suckers. I need a net. We all did. Thanks everybody. Extra thanks this week to Australian time suckers.

Man, the suck is growing down there. Thanks for spreading the word down under. I appreciate it. And until next week, enjoy your week. Good luck preparing for your fantasy football playoffs. If you're doing that, please do not spread mindless propaganda on the web. And you know what, put some keep on into a little bit of sucking. [♪ music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background,