Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 78 - Defiance: the Nazi Killing Bielski Brothers

Episode Date: March 12, 2018

The Bielski brothers led the largest Jewish-led rescue operation of Jewish civilians in ALL of World War II. They saved over 1,200 men, women, and children by hiding them in the forests of Western Belo-russia, from 1942-1944. More than 20,000 descendants of the survivors the Bielski’s helped save are alive today because of the ingenuity, heart, and perseverance of these men. They led numerous attacks against the German forces, sabotaging their war and round up efforts, killing their soldiers, and earning a huge target on their heads. Let’s get pumped, let’s get some revolutionary blood flowing through our veins, let’s feel thankful to just be alive today. LIFE is what the Bielski brothers fought for - and we deep dive them today, and go on a big emotional rollercoaster of a Suck, today, on Timesuck! Merch - https://badmagicmerch.com/ Want to try out Discord!?! https://discord.gg/tqzH89v Want to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever current page hasn't been put in FB Jail :) For all merch related questions: https://badmagicmerch.com/pages/contact Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG, @timesuckpodcast on Twitter, and www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcast Wanna be a Space Lizard"? Go here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcast Sign up through Patreon and for $5 a month you get to listen to the Secret Suck, which will drop Thursdays at Noon, PST. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. You get to vote on two Monday topics each month via the app. And you get the download link for my new comedy album, Feel the Heat. Check the Patreon posts to find out how to download the new album and take advantage of other benefits. And, thank you for supporting the show by doing your Amazon shopping after clicking on my Amazon link at www.timesuckpodcast.com

The Belzky brothers led the largest Jewish-led rescue operation of Jewish civilians in all of World War II. They saved over 1200 men, women, and children, roughly 70% were women, children, and the elderly, by hiding them in the forest of Western Belarusia, formerly Poland, currently Belarus, from 1942 to 1944, and through killing several hundred Nazi soldiers. Yeah, buddy. More than 20,000 descendants of the survivors, the Belskis helped save, are alive today because of the ingenuity, heart and perseverance of these men and the bravery of those willing to join them. They led numerous attacks against the German forces, sabotaging their war and roundup efforts, killing their soldiers, earning a huge target on their

heads in the process. They dodged bullets and grenades, survived in the wild, avoided capture over and over again while being hunted by thousands of arm soldiers. You ready for a little inspiration today? You ready to get a little angry? A little choked up? A little less of a triple M flavor to today's suck, more of a rage against the machine vibe. So fuck you, I won't do what you tell me. Let's get pumped. Let's get some revolutionary blood flowing through our veins. Let's feel thankful just to be alive today. Life is what the Belzky Brothers fought for. As we deep dive them today and go on a big emotional roller coaster of a suck today on TimeSuck.

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More tour dates at Dancomans.tv, time now for the Belzky Brothers. So who were the Belzky Brothers? Well, they were Skippy, Lance, Gary, and Leonard, and before the war, they ran a barber shop, just outside of Warsaw, where they made a decent living, and also sang in a popular barber shop quartet. If not for the war, they could have been as big as the friends of yesterday. They were mostly known in the Jewish club scene for their rendition of that old standard, sweet at a line. You're the flower of my heart, sweet at a line, sweet at a line. Almost had it.

I almost had it that last note. It's hard to hit. That's ridiculous. They did sing and they did not sing in some corn, corn, ball, ball, bar, shop, quartet. No. The brothers were tovia, soil, Zeus, and Aaron Beltsky. They're four of 12 children born to a miller, a dude who works in a grain mill and his wife in the rural agricultural village of Stankovic

near the small city of Novakraduk. They were the only Jewish family in the small Polish village that is now a part of Belarus. And they rarely left a farm as children because they were so scared of the very ugly just monstrous looking uh... native people just polish people living in the area just hideous as many of you know uh... polish people are very ugly and their as dumb as they are an unattractive and this village had the dumbest uglies polox in all of Poland

uh... mirrors actually had begun to be banned in 1903 because people would scare themselves. On Halloween, there was a local tradition started back in 1915 where local trigger treaters would dress up as non-polish, attractive people who could speak clearly and intelligently. Since the rest of the year, they spoke like Brutes and just looked like traditional Halloween monsters. And if you're a first-time listener,

I hope you're still listening, and I hope you realize I'm joking. My wife Lindsay's have Polish, and it just amuses me greatly to needlessly and undeservedly slander her heritage. Love you Polish bastards, love you skis. But seriously, the bellskis, they grew up in Stankovich,

which is tiny enough, not to show up under various alternative spellings, like on Google Maps, like at all, like it just doesn't show up. It only shows up in searches related to the Bellsky Brothers, and then only shows up as being referenced as a place of their birth. So while they were, you know, the only Jewish family in this little area, I'm guessing it was also probably like four total families. Reminds me of places back in Idaho, like Pinehurst and Rap River, where I grew up, Pinehurst,

not the town of Pinehurst in the Silver Valley, near Kellogg and Walles, Idaho. Now, I live for a little bit in the Pinehurst, about 50 miles south of Riggins, you just tell people, Riggins, and really you work, because that's where you kind of would have all your friends and do everything. But, you know, Pinehurst, the actual Pinehurst, where we live for like two years,

just had like a little church, a little cafe, slash gas station, slash mini store, slash I think VHS, it was like a little bit of everything hybrid, might have gas station, slash mini store, slash, I think VHS, it was like a little bit of everything hybrid, might have been, might have been in the thrift shop as well. And it had about 10, 15 houses, no post office, no bank, no dentist, not many people who had ever even been to a dentist, just that kind of place. I had several friends that lived in a rapid river, little neighborhood about five miles south of Riggins, that had its own little store off and on as well, and again, doesn't show up on a map, doesn't show up in a search.

Just a little neighborhood, only locals would know of my name. Guessing Stankovich was or is similar. Very small, few farms as opposed to a proper town of any sort. Now nearby Novogradik or Novodzudak, as it's now known, is an old, very well-documented little European city. It goes at least as far back as the 11th century. It was once sacked by the Mongols in 1241. This town is, you know, it's the famous fair share of occupiers over the years. The Swedes sacked the town in 1706,

destroyed Novodraddok Castle, Russians twice attacked and occupied the town during the Russo-Polish War that was fought from 1654 to 1667. The town has seen a spare share of empires and rulers. It was the first capital of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania in the mid-13th century. You know, it's changed names, changed rulers, changed kingdoms, been sacked, been rebuilt, but not perhaps since the Mongols had it seen an occupier so just fucking ruthless as a Nazis. It had a thriving pre-World War II Jewish population with roughly 5,000 Jews living there in 1900, approximately 20,000 by 1940. The Nazis would kill around 10,000 Jews in this city in 1941 alone.

It had a total population of roughly 30,000 today, or it has the Nazis would occupy for three years during World War II. And that would be the it has the Nazis would occupy it for three years during World War II, and that would be the second time the Germans had taken it over. They also occupied it for three years during World War I. So, it had to have been doubly painful for some of the older residents, you know, just when they came back. It's like, God damn it. These stupid German assholes are back again.

And Nevada Reduc, it's a town that's become recently known, a little bit, been mentioned in some news stories. And association with President Trump, when President Trump was criticized in 2017 for not reacting quickly enough to some incidents of anti-Semitism, his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, came to the President's defense by telling the story of his own Jewish grandmothers escape from Nazi occupation in the Soviet Union. Now Ray Kushner fled through a tunnel dug underneath the Jewish ghetto in this small town of Novogoduk. And she would make it to the Beltsky camp in the woods and survive the war.

The president's son-in-law would not be alive today if not for the heroism of the Beltsky. He's very interesting. And Russia, as mentioned there, because this little area, you know, it's changed hands so quickly, as we'll see here in this story, it also became, you know, the property of Russia and stuff. It was, you know, Polish, German, Russia, you know, just bouncing around. And what does the term ghetto mean? We keep saying this ghetto in today's episodes context.

Well, the term ghetto originated as far as like a Jewish ghetto, but the term ghetto originated from the name of the Jewish quarter in Venice, Italy. Let's share that name. In Venetian authorities compelled the cities to live in this quarter, which was established in 1516. Now, the 16th and 17th centuries, officials ranging from local authorities to the Austrian emperor ordered the creation of ghettos for Jewish people in Frankfurt, Rome, Prague, and then other cities.

So, just a part of the city where Jewish people would have to live designated to live. Nazi occupation authorities established their first ghetto in Poland in October 1939. The largest ghetto in Poland was the Warsaw ghetto. And Warsaw more than 400,000 Jewish people were crowded into an area of roughly 1.3 square miles. And the story of the Warsaw ghetto that deserves its own suck someday. I've been fascinated with that story for years. So the Bill's Keys, you know,

you got this family of Jewish farmers living outside this storied city at the outbreak of World War II. It's an area of no particular, you know, economic note or industrial note, you know, you got farmers, small city, full of, you know, little various shops, the small cities can have back then,

Grocers, cafes, banks, government buildings, tailors, carpenters, etc. etc. When it's not being sacked or occupied, sounds like a quiet rural place to live off the beaten path. And the main bells, key players in today's story again are Tuvia, a soil, Zeus, and their own. Now, the oldest of the brothers, Tuvia, he was elected as the leader of their group by

family members in 1942. When they would be hiding from the Nazis He's tall handsome and avid reader natural leader man in stills a sense of safety and confidence knows around him He's charismatic highly intelligent neighbors referred to him as the Clark Gable of the Bel skis Prior to world war two two via been a corporal in the Polish army knows how to fight and he continually taking out whoever need a refuge Into their camp despite the risks. He was Daniel Craig character in the movie Defiance if you've seen that, which of course is about the Belskies. Second in command, Dutuvia, is a soil led many fighters into sabotage missions, which

was considered the go-to guy when something was needed. He was played by a British actor, Jamie Bell in the movie, quieter, more reserved than his older brothers Had the war not been brought to his door. We're gonna have to stay on the family farm And you got Zeus the third oldest brother born four years after a soil and he was the brother in charge of gathering intelligence He was a hothead prior to the war his parents had to go negotiate with local authorities on several occasions to keep them from arresting Zeus for forget And to fights It was more lighthearted of the three even seen as a bit of a playboy for the time

He apparently have his fair share of force wise or hiding in the woods from Nazis He's handsome confident bit of a pistol played by a least Schreibner Schreibner in defiance I think they played with the ages just a slightly in that in that film because they they flipped those brothers as far as Who seemed older in the movie. And then he got Aaron Beltsky, the youngest of the brothers involved in the uprising. He was just 14 when the war hit. His main job was to survive, but he would help gather intelligence, played by the young British actor George McKay in defiance, and all these brothers had a reputation prior

to the war for being tough. Just like anti-Semitism was rife in Germany, well before the war, you know, relist into last year's third bonus suck on the rise of the third rike for more on that. It was rife and pre-war Poland as well. And the Belzis weren't known to put up with it, man. They frequently got into fights with other local farm kids. They were proud to be Jewish, didn't put up with local Aryan bullshit. Now, they were able to hold their own against the locals, live their lives.

But then the Nazis came and just kind of changed everything, you know, really in 1941. Before we dig into the Belzis, he's directing counters with the Nazis, lived their lives. But then the Nazis came and just kind of changed everything, really in 1941. Before we dig into the Beliskey's directing counters with the Nazis, the battles they fought against them. Let's talk about the kind of people these dudes would be fighting. Couple of tales from or about people most of whom could have been time sucks themselves

or could be one day time sucks topics. Let's really establish how horrible the enemy of the Beliskey's truly was. Fellow Jewish Polish citizen, Gerda Weisman did not fight back, was taken from another Polish city, Belsko, in 1942 to the gross, frozen death camp. She bounced from one camp to another for the remainder of the war, working in textiles and possessing a valuable skill, or at least a skill that Nazis found valuable, was the only reason she survived the war. By the end of the war, Gerda Weisman was one of the lucky ones who survived and was liberated.

She left the camp the day before her 21st birthday and she weighed 68 pounds. 68 pounds 20 years old. Yeah, and she wasn't three foot two. The 2,000 other girls who had recently marched with her, only 120 survived, 120 out of 2000. She saw girls so frozen from the cold that their toes would literally break off and they'd have to continue to march on command or be shot. This is as the Nazis are retreating from allied forces and just moving people from camp to camp.

She'd recently been marched for six weeks straight by force on one of these many Nazi death marches to a different camp. You know, she hadn't bathed in three years when she was rescued. Her hair had turned white. She was still wearing the ski boots. Her father had given her shortly before she was taken

by the Nazis and insisting they would help her survive which they did. Her father was also taken by the Nazis and was killed in a concentration camp early in the war. Every family member she had would be killed by the Nazis. The US soldier who held a door open for her to letter out of the last camp, she was held prisoner in, was US Lieutenant Kurt Klein, a Jewish man who was born in Germany and immigrated to the United States to escape the Nazis and before the war, then fought for the US Army. Both of his parents have been killed by the Nazis in Auschwitz and Gerta fell in love with her liberator and the two became

engaged in September 1945. They would be married in 1946 and they would stay married for 56 years until his death in 2002. Gerta's autobiographical account of the Holocaust, all but my life. 1957 was adapted for the 1995 short film, One Survivor Remembers, received an Academy Award and an Emmy Award and selected for the National Film Registry. On February 15, 2011, Klein was presented with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian award in the United States. And as of this recording, she's alive and well at 93 years old. And she's one of the many, many bright lights that the night's Nazis assigned zero worth to, zero value to as a human being,

and we're just more than comfortable with sniffing out. Snuffing out, sniffing out. What, you know, what's my word, switches these days. And that's about as happy as a tale as you're gonna hear about survival, you know, and today's suck, you know, despite all the death around her, Gert at least lived.

Former Nazi Oscar Gronin knows of many, many others that did not live. Oscar Gronin, aka the bookkeeper of Auschwitz, served in the SS at Auschwitz from 1942 until 1944, and then was brought to trial at 93 years of age in 2015. He was finally found and brought to trial in 2015. He was tried with 300,000 counts of accessory to murder. And then since the four years in prison, which in incarceration

length, the court determined appropriate given his age, I don't agree. You know, he's still alive. And in prison today, and it's said to get out next year, you know, what? I think once you're an adult, you know, age shouldn't get you leniency for past crimes. Fucking, what you did is what you did anyway oscar is one of the few germans who has been willing to speak about his role in the holocaust in in an effort to educate deniers uh... did you know by the way that deceased former chess wizard bobby fischer men with a genius level iq uh... was a holocaust in ira by the way

that's uh... i did not know that's insane to well former Nazi Oscar wants to convince these deniers of the reality of this atrocity before he dies. Uh, and we're going to be talking about holocaust anir's a little later with our 80s to the internet. Oh my god, those people make me fucking sick. Uh, so this is like his way of making some amends and here's some of his quotes. One of them is, uh, I want to tell these deniers that I have seen the crematorium. I have seen the burning pits. And I want to tell these deniers that I have seen the crematorium. I have seen the burning pits. And I want to assure you that these atrocities happened. I was there.

And he says, a child who was lying there was simply pulled by the legs and chucked into a truck to be driven away. And when it screamed like a sick chicken, they bashed it against the edge of the truck so it would shut up. Jesus. Interesting pronoun choice, by the way, as well, right? All these years later, and he still refers to this child as an it. Not he, not she, it. I guess it's a little easier to think about this having happened to an it rather than to a he or a she. So, you know, former

pieces, shit, who at least feels enough remorse to confess now. And that at least makes him a much better person than this next example. Ilsa Koch, the witch of Butch involved, Buchenwald. Yeah, it was also known as the bitch of Buchenwald, the butcher widow, the beast of Buchenwald. And she was a serious piece of shit, man. She did stuff that would make even Chickatilo cringe. Her actions and reputation have created a terrifying legend that, you know, had you not already heard about other monsters on time, so it may seem hard to believe. Ilsa was a native German born in Dresden, a bookkeeping clerk, one of the Mary SS colonel Karl Koch in 1936. Kutch, I guess, that's just Kutch. A man who would quickly build his own

evil reputation and her marriage to Kutch would give her access to prisoners at the Sassashhausen camp in Ahanjanburg, Germany near Berlin, and then later the book and vault camp near Weimar, Germany where she becomes part of a kind of, or she becomes sort of a volunteer common dance. She was technically a guest, but that just was enough for her to sit on the sidelines. The sadistic piece of shit was known to ride through camp on her horse, arbitrarily whipping prisoners just for fucking sport. I imagine she had a big smile on her face while she did that.

You know, she was just living in an evil, sadist paradise. And whipping was the least of her crimes. Her greater crimes included creating a collection of lampshades, gloves, and books made from the human skin of the 40 prisoners she was rumored to have murdered for those particular uses. God! She was American, you know, skinwear, edgings, just fucking dream girl. I just, I imagine Ed was familiar with her work, probably, actually, as he studied Nazi war crimes extensively and was fascinated with the supposed use of human skin.

So, she was rumored to particularly enjoy tattooed skin. It was also rumored that she made, or at least used soap made from the fat of prisoners. Shortly after the liberation of the book involved, a war correspondent, Jean Curavame observed that parchment was displayed inside the main gate that was in actuality, strips of tattooed flesh, a camp doctor, and Kacke had them collected as part of her fixation. And she'd be one of the first prominent Nazis to be tried for war crimes following the war, and a witness that her trial said the following, all prisoners with tattooing on them, which report to the dispensary. After the prisoners had been examined, the ones with the best and most artistic specimens

were killed by injections. The corpses were then turned over to the pathological department where the desired pieces of tattooed skin were detached from the bodies and treated further. Oh man, her husband Carl was also, as you would imagine, a complete and total piece of shit. He was such a piece of shit, he was actually killed before the war by fellow Nazis. Before the war ended, excuse me. That's how you know someone's a real scumbag. Like when they're a Nazi who discuss other Nazis with their behavior.

He was investigated for corruption, fraud, embezzlement, drunkenness, sexual offenses, and murder and sentenced to death by firing squad for shaming the SS. I don't know, that was possible. In April of 1945. Well, it also was sentenced to life in prison for her war crimes and then had her sentence reduced

only four years. When, you know, some became convinced she was innocent of some of her crimes, but then the sentence was overturned and she was resentanced to life in prison. And then in 1967, she hanged herself while still incarcerated. She had been under the delusion for some time that Jewish prisoners were attempting to harm her in the middle of the night. How fucking great is that? A little bit of karma, their bitch.

A little bit of karma came back to her in the end, right? I hope a real shadow people were tormenting the fuck out of her in her final days. Why can't this be the end to the story of every single Nazi to the Mangleys to all of them, you know? Tormented by their past crimes, to the point they killed themselves once they can no longer handle the constant fear. Hard to imagine, no more satisfying death for these people.

Tortured by the ghost of those, you know, you yourself tortured. You know, maybe shadow, bojangles showed up, chewed on her soul a bit before she ended it all. Maybe our fearless mascot, she snouled and snapped from the darkness of her mind until she couldn't take anymore. One can help. One can hope. And also as an important name in the Holocaust and Nyer movement, the reason her first life sentence was reduced to four years is because no hard evidence was presented in court regarding the items such as the lampshades being made out of actual human skin. In fact, some lampshades were presented that were made out of goat skin and deniers point to this evidence as

part of the proof that the holocaust is all made up. However, numerous witnesses testified to the trials, all of them, as far as all of her trials, that they had witnessed her picking various prisoners based on their skin. And those prisoners were then, you know, never seen a life again. And they'd seen, you know, these skin parchment's like in the camp. So, not sure exactly where the switcheroo with the goat skin came in. But I don't think, you know, evidence of that exact thing not being presented in court just, you know, makes it look like the whole thing was fake. Yeah, yeah, plenty of witnesses. Again witnesses again reported her being just the personification of

evil and speaking of evil personified let's talk about the angel of death one of the most infamous examples of a complete not see pieces shit is of course doctor joseph mangle a uh... the angel of death and he was one of approximately thirty doctors at osquits during world war two that death camp by the end of the war he'd worked his way into the top position as a chief camp physician of Auschwitz through outrageous acts of cruelty.

There wasn't anything that he wasn't willing to do to a Jewish person to help the Nazi war effort or just to satisfy his own sadistic curiosity. And he'll get a full suck someday for sure. As a physician, excuse me, one of Mengele's required task was to sort incoming prisoners as they arrived. This was called selection. And prisoners were sorted into two categories, for the most part, those to be killed immediately, and those to be used for slave labor. So he was a literal, just like the face of terror,

he was the face of God in his way to all these prisoners. He would often attend selection proceedings when off duty, right? You never take time off when you're doing what you love. How fucked up is that? Clearly enjoyed the face-to-face process of deciding who got to live and who got to die. Love playing God.

For a time, he was also in charge of overseeing the use of Zeichlon B gas and the gas chambers used for mass execution. And Mengele was particularly focused on the use of twins in medical experimentation. Prior to the war, he had worked under another physician and used twins to study a variety of things.

It was ideal to have two people with identical genetic makeup when you wanted to study the effects of a variety of things in relation to environment and hereditary, or heredity. These studies were performed under strict protocol with approved means. He was also intrigued with hetrochromia or heterochromia. That's when people are born with two different colored eyes. He was also obsessed with dwarves, people with physical deformities, and much of his research centered around eugenics and the goal of proving the superiority of an Aryan race, which is nonsense.

In so many ways, but as we learn here on the suck, race is just a social construct, right? I can't emphasize that enough. Traces should back far enough, and we're all African. Germans weren't always in Germany, they didn't always look like they do. It's just this constant state of evolution

and changing as we, historically, as tribes that people moved from one continent to another in different parts of continents and then inter-bred is like, now there's never been this fucking ridiculous notion of just, you know, people looking like they look now in the fucking blue eyes and the blonde hair just going straight back into the beginnings of their fucking Aryan, you know, Garden of Eden or some bullshit, it's just nonsense, it's all nonsense. We're just meat sacks. We're all meat sacks We're all just different shades of the same sack

Which sounds weird when you say that sense alone. You're just different shades of the same sack sounds like nut sack And in a way we do come from there. So, you know, I guess that's apt Anyway, Dr. Fuckhead was attempting to learn how to enhance the number of racially desirable twin pregnancies and experiments included purposely infecting one twin with a disease to watch comparative health, forced blood transfusions from one twin to another, extracting healthy teeth to study, sewing twins together in an attempt to create and join twins and then separating them

holy shit. Drug experimentation, chloroform injections to the heart, injecting pigmentation into the eyes in an attempt to alter color, unnecessary limb amputation, and so much more. He and Imperial Japan's Dr. Ashiro Ishii would have been besties, right? I was surprised those two pieces of shit when it weren't pen pals. At the end of the war, Mengele was in US custody, but was quickly released because

he wasn't recognized by the soldiers who held him despite his well-documented crimes. Despite his name being on a list of war criminals, which sounds sloppy. Obviously, a huge bummer, but to be fair, the allies were grabbing just a shitload of war criminals. Thousands and thousands of Nazis at the end of the war. I'm guessing, you know, he was quite a smooth talk in sociopathic weasel and it's not like you know, they had high reds color photos of everybody back then So he you know he escaped he hit out for four years in Bavaria working as a farmhand Before immigrating to Argentina First you live there under an alias, but it's time went on eventually returned to Europe under his own name Even traveled back to Europe on vacation securing an authentic German passport passport. Once Nazi hunters found him, Argentina was put under pressure

for extradition. When they finally granted it, he slipped away again, this time to the German on-cloth of Colonius Unidas and Paraguay, where he lived to the ripe old age of 67. Again, that's not crazy old, but you know, fucking way too old for him. And then died from a stroke while swimming in the coastal resort of Bertioga.

In 1979, Bertioga, there we go, maybe there are rumors that his death was faked that he lived even longer. It's fuck. Man, full suck for sure, somebody had that creep. Why couldn't that bastard die like Ilsa Koch's, right? Why couldn't he just be tormented by fucking shadow monsters and then just be pulled into hell or some shit? Oh man.

So I just wanted to give you a little sample, a little taste, the types of people that the Bellsky Brothers were fighting, all manner of terrible things. You know, being done to Jewish people in the name of winning a war by soldiers, by the German soldiers, you know, and soldiers have done all kinds of things, you know, and throughout, you know, war is inherently just brutal from all different types of countries,

but man, the Nazis were especially just fucked up. Also especially good at what they did, which was just killing a preposterous amount of people, different types of countries but man the Nazis were especially just just fucked up. Also especially good at what they did which was just killing a preposterous amount of people which included an insane amount of non-combatants. In World War II the Nazis would kill at least 1.9 million non-Jewish Polish civilians during the war. In addition the Germans murdered at least 3 million Jewish Polish citizens. And then overall historians agreed they killed around six million Jewish people

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Gradyk and The bill skis owned a mill farm the land horses cows chickens geese also helps support the family the bill ski mills to the river's edge the barn and several sheds were close to the mill. Well, the living quarters were further away. And probably to the side of the rest of the dwellings, the Bilski home consisted of a wooden two-room hut. Yeah, two rooms. One room was only big enough to hold a medium-sized bed and there slept the parents, Bella and David.

Each room had a small window on frontage clay door. From outside, a door led into the main room that functioned as a kitchen dining room, living room, bedroom for other kids. The right of this big room was a large built in stove that served as a cooking stove and oven, a heater placed to rest. During the winter months, the warmth emanating from its stones, surface meter to cozy little sleeping place. Next to the stove, a door led to a smaller room and a few wooden beds hugging the remaining walls. Center of this room was dominated by a rectangular table, two wooden benches at opposite sides. At the end of the table, it's at arm chairs, reserved for each parent, though the furnishings were sparse.

The room was crowded without a free wall devoid of a single luxury item. Man, because limited space and a number of kids, each bed had to accommodate more than one occupant, warm weather, the barn would offer additional sleeping space, easy and the over crowding. Casual visitors, you know, or as, excuse me, though, casual visitors, now wonder how such a large family can fit into this limited space. The Belskies, I gave no thought this matter, born, you know, over a 25 year span. Some of the children would leave home before the birth of the others. At no point did their hut accommodate the full family of 14, yeah, but probably had nine or 10 there, you know,

at all times. Tovey had two older brothers, the first being born in 1902, Aaron, the youngest slipping out in 1927, holy shit, there's poor woman. Popping out babies for a quarter of a century, I feel truly terrible for her vagina. Feel like it probably could have qualified for disability,

just on its own by 1927. 12 kids, man, in a two room hut, and again, they weren't all there at the same time, but I bet at least nine were there at the same time. That's about fucking six too many, about five, six too many. Man, no thank you. How did they ever find time to make more kids after the first few were born? You'd have to be either quick or real quiet or both.

My grandpa Ward, my mom's dad, came from a family like that. I mean, I just, I can't imagine, as a parent trying to raise that many kids and provide for all of them. Just reading that makes me so glad that my old sperm tubes are tied off. They're put out to pasture, they're retired.

I feel like I don't spend nearly enough time with the two kids that I have, you know? I wanna spend more time with Kylo and Ro, I can't imagine, you know, if they were just fucking two or 10, and it's forgetful as I am, I can't imagine keeping them all straight. I feel like if I had 12 kids, there'd be at least one kid that I would just always just forget about.

It's all right, looks like everybody's here, let's head into town gang. But papa, what about Alexander? Alexander, name sounds familiar. Can't quite place it. He's his son, Papa. Really? I have a Sunday in Alexander? That's wonderful.

Wait, you see the one little one with a rat tail? In the kind of pointy ears? Yeah, I don't, yeah, you fucking rubbed me the wrong way. Daddy, Alexander, you kinda weirdz me out. Kinda weirdz me out. Let's leave him, you know? We already got 11 kids. It's already too many. Uh, no one's gonna miss him. No one's gonna miss him. Let's, let's, come on. Let me out. Let's leave him, you know, we got to get 11 kids, it's already too many. No, no, no, it's gonna miss him. No, it's gonna miss him. Let's, let's come on, let's go, let's go. So yeah, so big Jewish family, early 20th century Poland,

living on a crowded farm with, with nothing but non-Jewish neighbors, many of whom were strongly anti-Semitic, but before the Nazi occupation, you know, the, the family would hold their own against those people and, you know, and get along with the, the community, people that would give them shit, they'd handle long before the war, the bills, they were known to be tough, man, take no shit, kind of bunch. The more I read about them,

the more I just began to love and admire them. Like, check out this childhood tale. This is fucking, I wish I had a tale like this from my childhood, like for real. You know, this is Zeus recalling, kind of defending the family farm. He, there was a some asshole, some chuck for those of

you who have already listened to my field of heat secret standard album. This huge asshole had some land that boarded the Belzky property. Had a reputation, been nasty and greedy, someone to be avoided at any cost. Each year this neighbor would moan just a few more inches of the Belzky's meadow and then claim it as his. Stealing a little bit of land each summer. Zeus Belskis said, we grew up among the peasants, we knew them, we knew how to fight. My father was quiet, gentle, mother was also a friendly person. Father used to say that with fine people, we have to be good and proper, but with bad people we have to be bad.

We would not let others push us around. We were never afraid. That was the kind of family we were. But in this case, David Belskis, dad, did not feel like a fight was an order. He felt that the amount of land lost was so small that it wasn't worth bothering about. And so he advised his son just to ignore the matter. Trivia, or just trivia, trivia, trivia, trivia, that'd be a fucking weird name. No, tovia Zeus, some other brothers who disagreed to them, it was a question of principle. So one day, when he's about 15, Tuvia, followed by his younger brothers, came to cut the grass. They were starting to work at the edge, you know, reestablish it along the edge of their property, push a little

bit back into this asshole's land, you know, push it back into their land that this guy was taking, you know, this, you know, neighbor's meadow. And when they went to work, Captain Dickhead, he burst out of his hut, screaming at the top of his lungs, that they were now on his land and that they were trespassing. and then with the chuckle, two of you remembered, he thought that if he screamed, I would get scared. In his hand, he held a sith, he shouted, I will kill you. But I stood there laughing, which made him more furious. When he came closer, I reached for my sith, and with it I hid his.

He lost his balance, landed on his back. When he was on the ground, I began to hit him with my hands. Four local farmhands came to look. They stood there amused, laughing loudly at the man's misfortune. That day I gave him such a beating that we did not see him for two weeks. I was young then, a teenager, but I was big and strong. I was not afraid of the non-Jews. And fought hard whenever one of them tried to wrong-meat.

That is so awesome. I love this family. Didn't take share from anyone. Oh man, how I would love to beat one of my neighbors so badly that they just didn't come outside for two weeks. Oh man, fucking Chuck. That's one neighbor I have. I'll be so great. If he just did something, he started screaming at me and then he went to hit me with something and I just knocked him down to the ground and then just fucking womped him. Just for, you know, while other people watched and laughed, other people from the area, people that are gonna see him later and just laugh every time they see him,

laugh when he comes out with a black eye, you know, because he was a dumb shit that tried to start something over to some nonsense and then guys asked, whoop, God, that be fucking so good. And I'm thinking about how good that would be at like, you know, at 40. Now I can't imagine like 18, how good that would have felt. You know, when you're even angrier, when you got, you know, the hormones raging around, you get even more fired up. I know I say that.

I do, I actually, I feel like I probably get more fired up now. I don't know what's wrong with me. I have some weird, whatever regulates your, your ability to not be fired up and should call music at older, my brain doesn't have that anyway Yeah, they didn't take shit man as I said during the episode They're living outside of Novogoduk this old town. It's been ruled by a variety of rulers that as long history Town recently you know been under siege occupied numerous times from 1915 to 1918

World War I you know under German control for a a bit in 1919, under Polish control, Polish Bolshevik war fell under the Soviet Red Army in 1920, in 1921, if I can see it back to Poland, by the time World War II was in swing, 1939, you know, it's just been in battle for years anywhere, you know, but it's not a place you know, you wanted to be, just constant war, it had a well established Jewish quarter though, just over 5,000 Jewish community members in the early 1900s. And then the fall of 1939 for a brief period before the Nazis arrived, the Red Army of Russia, you know, took over this homeland as as I just stated with those dates, you know, it was known as Western Bailerosa, Bailerusa, and again, you know, today this land is known as Bailerus.

And while the Russians weren't as bad as the Nazis, they also weren't pro-Jew. I feel like, I don't know how much defiance really touched on that movie. They quickly abolished Jewish political parties outlawed, Jewish participation in various jobs and academic roles by labeling the Jewish people as politically undesirable, which knowing that communist Stalin system, which is a way to, which you know in that whole communist Stalin system, you

know, just as a way to, if you got labeled that, you know, you're, they were worth nothing now and they could just kind of take your property, they could deport you, they put, sent some Jews and some Poles who didn't hear to their new regime to the, to the Siberian Gurgs, 1939, to be and his wife lived nearby, uh, Sebel, uh, Sebotniki, and owned a small shop that shop, collected and transported scrap metal to foundries. So there's weird little niche business, and then the Russians came and confiscated their business and added them to the politically undesirable list.

But I guess at least they weren't being rounded up into camps. You know, 2V went into hiding from Russian authorities, his wife who had soon divorced state and was able to Sebel Nik... to try and wait things out and then the Germans came in 1941 and shit went from bad to worse on June 22nd 1941 the Germans began their march to the Bill's Keys with operation Barbara Rosa that which begins with the Germans invading Belarusia in the Soviet Union Adolf Hitler launches his armies eastward in a massive invasion of the Soviet Union three great army groups with over three million German soldiers 150 divisions 3000 tanks smash across the frontier into Soviet territory. The invasion covers a front from the North Cape to the Black Sea,

a distance of about 2,000 miles. And we touched on this in TimeSuck 71. The Joseph Stalin suck, Hitler breaking the non-aggression pact he'd had with Stalin. You know, this would end as a military disaster for Hitler, to the relief of the world, but not before costing millions of innocent innocent lives and sending the Billsky brothers into the role of heroes and In late June of 1941 Zeus, Tuvia and a soil are called by the local Polish military to resist the Germans But the military quickly dispans and they're on their own

The Russians began their retreat east where they were caught off guard, you know again by this attack They thought they had that non-aggression, you treaty and uh... and with in within days of the initial German attack they're just fucking their head and their head needs and and many uh... Jewish people go with them feeling that life under the Russians bad as it was would at least be better than life under the Germans which was true two of the bills key children at stale in joshua would follow them and survive the rest remained and david claimed the war would not last forever and the germany would loose and he was right unfortunately the war would last long enough to destroy almost his entire family, though. In July of 1941, laws are passed that required Jews to wear stars on the front and back out their clothes by the Nazis,

prohibiting them from walking on the sidewalks along with other various just kind of ridiculous rules. In August 1941, pro-Nazi police come to the Bilsky family home seeking information on the brothers, Tuvia, Zeus and the soil who didn't share their father's trust that everything would get better and you know and they were actively hiding from the Nazis. They were you know staying in secret at the homes of non-Jewish people obtaining false IDs that sort of thing just kind of constantly on the move and now it was easy at this time for official to know which Jews were missing because Jews had been held in their close watch, you know, way before the Nazis got there, you know, things in part to the Russians and due to a variety of just, you know, sources before

them, just census records, synagogue records, neighbors, school records, etc. and the Nazis wanted all local Jews to be identified and accounted for. And when the Bielski father, David doesn't give them the information they want, he's beaten and his ribs are broken with a rifle. Fall of 1941 life begins to worsen rapidly in the area. The younger brothers of Tuvia, Zeus and asoil, this Yakov and Abraham, they're arrested and killed.

These two bills he brothers in October because they won't give any information about their older brothers whereabouts. Jews are now going missing and being visibly killed daily. The sound of gunfire constant. Yellow stars now have to be worn by due assistance all the time. Their valuables are being forcefully taken, handed over to Nazi soldiers, still debilistic parents refused to leave their home. Then on December 8th, 1941, Nazi officials gather over 6,000 Jews in the Novograduk district

and begin the selection process. Jews sent to the left, have been chosen to be executed immediately. Those sent to the right will be deported to the ghettos. Now of course no one knows this at first. Local Jewish families, not present for those selection, are rounded up. When the Bill's keys don't show, Nazi officers headed their home and young Aaron is at home when the officers come. He hides behind a tree and watches and fear as his parents and two of his brothers are drug from the home and forced into wagons and they would never be seen again. A massive grave had been dug prior to the selection process and those deemed unfit for

the ghettos for whatever reason, roughly 5,000 of the 6,000 Jewish people forced into this pit before the soldiers opened fire. Witness Sonia Oshman describes the mass execution years later in a Belcy Brothers documentary saying, it was a big grave, very long one. They told the people to get in and they were shooting. The people who got the bullet, they were lucky, the ones who didn't had to die to suffocate, buried alive.

The Gentile people that they lived around saw the ground was moving. It was constantly moving. It took more than a week for all of them to die. Holy fuck, how can I... You understand what she's saying there? Like, they fucking killed these people. You know, just put them in this pitch, she started throwing the dirt over them. Whether they're fully alive or I'm serious, you know, totally dead or not. You know, some of them still alive wounded, you know, still alive.

Some of them probably not even wounded, just missed, but just other people's bodies and dead bodies or wounded bodies are on top of them, and then they just throw the dirt over them, and then that's it. And there was people would see the earth just moving as people down underneath that are trying to fucking get out. Oh my God. And this is where, where the Billsky parents die in this pit of despair. And so also, Zeus's wife and infant daughter also died there. And if you're wondering, why didn't the Nazis

just put all the local Jews into that pit, why kill, you know, 5,000 of the six thousand, why not kill all of them? Why set up that ghetto? Well, because ghettos were assets to the German war efforts. They didn't just put them in these sealed off neighborhoods and then just leave them alone. The ghettos supplied free labor the German war efforts. They didn't just put them in these sealed off neighborhoods and then just leave them alone. The ghettos supplied free labor and the production of various goods for the Nazis that would

be helpful in the war effort. The policy was called rescue by labor for a time before the late stages of the war when higher and higher percentage of Jews would be killed just for being Jewish, regardless of ability, certain Jewish community leaders were able to convince Nazi leaders to allow them to live so they could help to kind of prove their value what a fucked up position to be in. Life in the ghettos wasn't much better than death. You know, once families entered through the gates, there was no plan for organization for living. There was, you know, five or six families would end up just sharing a small space. Some families would be split up, you know, comfort was nowhere food, but you could be very scarce.

If someone attempted to talk to someone outside the ghetto or to try to get them food from the other side, they were just shot. Despite this, the peasants often came to the border to trade food for gold and valuables that have been smuggled into the ghetto by Jewish prisoners. It was a small risk for them. They just get a little bit of trouble, but very large risk for the Jewish person. They could be killed if they were seen. But the risk of trading their gold for some bread was worth it.

Man, so they were just fucking wall these people off in these portions of the city. And they're just kind of like, you know, their gold for some bread, which worth it. Man, Jesus, I mean, so they were just fucking wall these people off and he's in these portions of the city. And then he's kind of like, well, good luck. We don't think if you know, make us a bunch of shit, we're going to kill you. But you know, and they'd be like, well, we don't really have food in here. I don't know, no, no, no problem. No, no problem. Well, you figure out how to survive.

We're not going to help you at all. And give a stop for we'll kill you. It's fucking terrible. Uh, after avoiding the ghetto, round up the Zeus and a soil rescue, uh, a rone rescue, Aron, he's hiding in this surrounding forest and that's where they hide. They learned how to survive in the Nalabaki forest, which is about 3,000 square kilometers of wild woods, full of swamps, deer, wild birds, bear another wildlife. You can actually find YouTube videos of tourists checking out. They're really pretty, but you have it very like swampy, very swampy woods. It's really pretty, but you have it very like swampy, very swampy woods.

Tuvia is living in nearby Lida at the time. He'd obtained false peppers. Pepper, he'd obtained false peppers, you guys. He tried to get real peppers from a produce vendor, and that guy was like, no, no, no, you could have these fake peppers, but we're fucking, we're saving the real ones for the Aryans, that's how fucked up all this.

No, he'd obtained false papers and could pass as a Gentile. Hearing about the mass execution, he returns to the sake of itch to search for his brothers and searches the forest near his family's farm for his brothers Zeus and a soil. I've set up the small camp, you know, as a base to live in. They learn early on that if you don't want to have to move all the time, you gotta be extremely careful

as far as your location goes. Cause in mid-February 1942 a massive mistake was made. It was one of their early camps. A group of men out for supplies found a cow and killed it. As they carried it back to camp, a trail of blood was left. German soldiers happened upon it. Then on arrival, the Germans opened fire. The partisans just kind of f*****ing scattered in all directions.

Some ended up in a clearing where machine gun fire cut them down. The camp was destroyed. Then the survivors had to relocate seven miles west farther into the forest. By March 1942, nine people had joined a soil, Zeus and Aaron in the forest. By April, the group was up to 14. A soil, Zeus taught some members how to shoot. This was done without ammunition, since it was too precious to be wasted on training. One had to be careful about noises as well, they would attract attention. The know, the enlarged group followed this established pattern of just, you know, moving around under the cover of darkness. A few men would venture into the village for food, intimidated by

guns, the peasants would hand over whatever provisions they had. The Germans, for the most part, and boarded the forest, particularly when it was dark. And the group took advantage of this and did most of their household chores in the evening, including cooking. Their meals were made in a large pot, hung from a branch. fire was built underneath, they'd sleep in tents under a tree. These tents served as temporary shelters, built out of branches, which covered with all kinds of material. The tents would offer protection from the cold and the wind, but they weren't as reliable

when it came to rain and snow. No one undressed for the night, it was just warmer and safer to keep your clothes on. So you'd sleep with them on, the just, you know, followed by almost everybody. The group's survival depended on a possibility to move quickly. The peasants, their food suppliers were poor and therefore unable to feed a large group for extended time. Not to overburden them, the group would collect food from different farms, besides if the natives thought that a group of Jews had settled close to their village, they might be tempted to report them to the authorities.

The Germans demanded from the local population delivery of Jewish fugitives to assure compliance. In addition to punishments, they offered special rewards. The group's movement was also dictated by chance mediums with civilians, what can never be sure whether these occasional encounters would lead to being ratted out and a change of location would be necessary to decrease the chance discovery. So it's fucking not easy. They just fucking zipping around in the woods You know setting a little camp here a little camp up, you know there taking a little bit of stuff here a little bit of stuff There just you know trying to survive

You know getting some guns here some guns there, but you know can't hardly shoot them because they don't want to make the noise And then on May 8th 1942 another huge mass execution in the Novakrida Kedot takes place another huge mass execution in the Novak-Graduk ghetto takes place. Now the population of this ghetto have been built back up to roughly 6000 since the murder of roughly 5000 Jews six months earlier, you know, because they've been being steadily brought in from other nearby cities and rural areas. And then all the ghetto inmates are ordered to assemble in the central section. And once again, the Germans and their collaborators split the Jewish population into two groups, Labriders split the Jewish population into two groups and 5,670 ghetto inmates are murdered that day. Fuck me.

And second mass execution, only roughly 250 year left. This time after this happens, the remaining prisoners decide they have no option left, but to begin to kind of risk escaping. And they begin the dangerous task of digging a tunnel out using spoons, forks, and their hands. They would dig a tunnel 600 feet that way underground and later be able to exit from it in this kind of single file fashion and just make a fucking run for it. In mid-May 1942, Tuvia, his new wife Sonia, four members of Sonia's family, ketchup with

a soil Zeus, her own and the forest. And the group slowly increasing in size now continues to wander from place to place. Their group of more than 20 Tu two of you has chosen to be their leader. Primary objective is clear to rescue and save as many duties as possible. Around this time, prisoners from Novograduk, ghetto have heard of the Bilsky's attempt to make contact. By August of 1942, the Bilsky group is now known as the Bilsky Otrad, which is a Otrad as a Russian for brigade or military detachment.

Two of you have become the commander responsible for running the Otrado is a Russian for brigade or military detachment. Tuvea became the commander responsible for running the Otrado, formulated his policies, maintaining its security, a soil-second command, and charged of day-to-day activities of the unit in the armed men's Zeus, appointed ahead of reconnaissance. He would collect information, affecting the group's experience and safety, his job required familiarity with the area and the local population.

As Commander Tuvea made it clear that his brothers would respect him. Twice he had Zeus whipped, had him tied to a tree in the center of camp. I made an example of him. He had a soil whipped as well. Once to establish how much control he truly had, he had Zeus whipped a soil. Another time he had Zeus whipped a soil and then a soil whipped a wrong. And then a wrong would whip an elderly woman, the Ruth, who she would then whip a five-year-old this kid Rachel Rachel was then with a baby and he had the main point maintain order

I know it sounds extreme, but I fucking get it, you know, it's like Yeah, not everyone is you know built to handle those things not everyone is gonna understand the need to whip a baby But I do I do in in the context of the the story, it makes sense when I read that. And two of you made it clear that they would deny other Jews, including into their group. They're not, excuse me. He would repeat over and over again that it was better to save one Jew than to kill 20 Germans. And this was a position he would never budge from, no matter how tough the circumstances, no matter how much danger. And in order to do that, if a baby had to be whipped, fuck it's, you know, so be it.

You know, and the whipping stuff, by the way, is total nonsense. That's total nonsense. I made that up. I had to throw in again something. This is so heavy. I had to be ridiculous for Lisa's second. The only real whipping that was just done

was some emotional whipping done by me to use the list. No, but the rest of that was just true. And so I knew the Bill Ski Otroud, they begin sneaking notes and letters into the ghettos of the Novograduk ghettos, you know, and the Lida ghettos and their urging others to risk death and escape to join them to fight in the forest. A Gentile peasant farmer, just like one of my favorite parts of this story, this rare ally named Constantine Klozlowski Now he aided with this. Now the penalty for his him helping, you know, or an attempted escape, you know, for these people. It was always death. Just anybody, you know, did anything like if the Jewish people tried to get out of the ghetto, penalty death. You know, he talked to somebody, not

in the ghetto, death. You try and help a Jewish person escape from any place, death. And you know, in Constantine, he had three grown sons living with him and he's not just putting his life at risk for helping. He's putting all their lives at risk. So what a fucking cool dude. Now what a brave son of a bitch, this Constantine was in a way, arguably braver than the Billskees. I mean, the Billskees weren't sailing brave and sailing brave, not taking anything away from them, but they were being hunted. They were, their hand was forced in a sense, you know, they were going to be hunted whether they helped others or not, whether they fought back or not, the Nazis were going to try to find them and were going to try to kill them.

That was their reality. Constantin, not so much. He could have just kept out of the whole mess and lived his life. He was not inherently in harm's way. His sons were not inherently in harm's way. He chose to put everybody in harm's way to do the right thing. That's incredibly, an incredibly rare thing to do, incredibly courageous,

so easy to read about stuff like this. I feel like I can think, well, I'd hope the Nazis, I'd fucking do it, or I would rather die, than just let the Nazis do what they fucking did. Would you? Would you do that? What if you knew that not only would you die,

but your kids would be killed if he didn't play ball? Well if, you know, what if you'd be raped or your wife would be raped if you didn't follow orders? You know, would you really risk the lives of your family to help some strangers? Because it's the right thing to do. I mean, history has shown it's time and time. Again, the most people will not take that risk, which is why it's so goddamn impressive, so noble. Most people always, you know, go along, always go along with whatever the regime is doing, so no harm comes to them, which I get. The fucking desire for self-preservation, ironically though, harm does tend to come to people

who don't resist, it just takes a little longer. Usually when you turn into blind eye to some ruthless motherfucker, ravaging your neighbors, it's only a matter of time before they come from you, or come for you too. But in this case, if you're Aryan and Gentile, they're not going to come for you. You really could just do nothing and be fine. You could pretty much, for sure, just keep on living.

Your family could go on living. Or you could help people. You don't even know. Help strangers and put the lives of everyone you love and grave danger. I get irritated when people get incredulous about the German people, the Nazi era, the Polish Gentiles turning the blind eye to not how could they do that? Go because they didn't want to fucking die. That's how same reason a lot of soldiers became Nazis.

They didn't want to die. You know, I'm sure a fair amount of them thought privately that Hitler was a piece of shit. It was fucked up and so was the agenda, but they're not going to talk about that. You know, when they're called into service, join or die. You know, that's that's, that's a heavy decision. All is such a good reminder, man, not to cave into social pressure to stay quiet about what you think is fucked up in the world. Man, let your voice be heard.

Don't let it snowball into what happened in Germany. Uh, all right, man, back to today's tale, uh, September 1942. Shortly after making contact with the ghetto, uh, the escape tunnel has finished that little hand dug sucker and Pritzers began trickling out of the Vagraduck and they find the Bilsky Otrot and one really night in that September Whoever hasn't already escaped the all just make a break for it Just you know just a couple hundred ghetto prisoners crawl through the tunnel their hands and knees to either freedom or death And a lot don't make it many are shot or captured once they reach other side, but 170 do make it do find their way to the Belzki Otrot. And now the group

is over 300 strong. That's bad ass man. The winner of 1943 is hard. 10 members of the group are killed while on a mission together food and supplies. Now the farmer who led to these deaths who ratted them out, his family later murdered by the Belskis. Him and his family, Tuvia prepared his men's retribution, they surrounded the farm and killed them all and burnt their shit to the ground. That would be the penalty for ranting out, Jews, for killing Jews. And you know what?

I fucking like it. Don't let them get away with murder when you can help it, man. Send your message back. Get some fucking vengeance. And the Belskis, they formed an alliance around this time with some Russian soldiers who were hiding out the force as well. Now that's how they got there the Russians Stalin after retreated in 1939 What was beginning to send small brigades back into the area of Belarusia? Slash Poland in the winter of 1942

1943 small O3 ads of soldiers would like parachute into the area and they were being sent into protect loyal local citizens, you know loyal to Russia and to begin pushing back into this territory and so they could you know claim it for mother Russia at the at the wars end which they did and the Belskis began fighting alongside in collaboration with these Russians against the Nazis. Zeus would lead fighters in collaboration with Russian partisans to to sabotage German trains. The war on rails began in total. The Belsky partisans traveled over 40 miles to destroy train tracks.

Effectively cutting off German supply to the front for 51 hours of wartime. This infuriated the Germans, and they put a reward of 100,000 marks on Tuveus capture that are alive. In total, the Otradd would derail six echelons of the enemy, bomb 19 bridges, burn down a lumber factory, eight national national German estates blow up 800 meters of

Railroad tracks and killed 261 police officers and Nazis. They also prevented the deportation of more than 1000 residents to the force camps in Germany. How incredible man all from their little little hideout in the woods. Now in July 1942 the Nazis Now, in July 1942, the Nazis, excuse me, the Nazis, 1943, the Nazi Germans began Operation Herman in an attempt to liquidate partisan groups in the forest. Twenty thousand, some reports they have to 52,000 German troops sent in to find and destroy Jewish hideouts. The Bill Skieltrade has to abandon a new camp they were constructing, where they had some roughly constructed bunkers, the beginnings of a little town in the woods and they're forced to head deeper now into the woods. They have to cross a large swamp in effort to stay safe.

And again, I saw some of these swamps on these videos, man, they were no joke. It's not like a buy-you alligator swamp, but it's a fucking nasty ass swamp in a much colder place, just murky water and mud. During the crossing, children were carried on shoulders. Water was often waste or shoulder deep and bullets are heard. People need to rest. Tied to trees, to keep them from drowning. Jesus, mud is swallowing their tired legs, but somehow no one dies.

Now I'll make it across. Just pushing people on fucking wood. I got carrying people. Eventually the Germans, tracking them, just give up. They're sick of the swamp. The Bill's Keepard is in group. It's now 75 miles west of Minsk Deep into Nalabaki forests and they begin to build their first permanent base for the now over 800

Members of their crew after years of constant moving they begin to construct what they call their Jerusalem in the woods This place is amazing by the fall of 1943 with their numbers reaching over 800 You know, they really get this place going and the camp becomes pretty damn impressive They carved out underground dugouts, you know Cut down timber to reinforce the tops of these kind of bunkers in addition. They several utility structures are built There's a big kitchen built a mill It's awesome. And a mill a bakery a bakery a bathhouse a medical clinic for the sick and the wounded a quarantine hut for those who suffer from infectious diseases such as typhus clinical clinic for the sick and the wounded, a quarantine hot for those who suffer from infectious diseases such as typhus, herds of cows, are now supplying milk, artisans are making goods, carrying out repairs, providing the combatants with logistical support that would later

serve the Soviets, you know, units helping them as well. More than 125 workers, toilet and the workshops, would become famous among partisans, you know, far beyond the Bilsky base, tailors patch up old clothing, stitched together new garments, shoe makers or fixing old and making new footwear, unbelievable. Leather workers are laboring on belts in saddles. Metalworking shop is established by Schmel Oppenheim, repairing damaged weapons, constructing new ones from spare parts. A tannery is constructing hides for cobblers and leather workers, and it

also becomes a de facto synagogue because several of the tanners are devout and hecetic Jews, carpenters, hat makers, barbers, watchmakers, all serving their community, and the guests, the camps are, many children are attending classes, and the dugouts set up as a school, the camp even has its own jail and court of law. They had plays in the evening for entertainment, it began feel a more like a like a real life not just survival You know, you're able to whole secret town and the middle of Nazi territory a fucking town with over a thousand people Holy shit is that impressive to me and And kind of most impressive is it's someone somehow

Was able to sneak in a few wartime issues of the popular American comic book Pudi and Juju To kind of help boost morale now the most popular issue in the campus issue 36 Rabbi Pudi and Dr. Juju and where the two go undercover Pudi dresses as a Hasidic Ju Hasidic Rabbi and Juju as a Jewish doctor and they make their way to Nazi Germany where they're then taken to a concentration camp or once inside they shed their costumes and the Nazis soon realize these are not too Jewish men. They're actually two non gender specific, not human cartoon characters who cannot be killed. The Nazis shoot them and the bulls just kind of like you know turn their little bodies or

cartoon bodies into Swiss cheese but then they just kind of rebuild themselves in the next frame. And just yell stuff like two little two did little Nazis and put it in your lunchbox, Hitler. And the Nazis throw grenade on them and just shrug, you know, it's kind of shrugged and they'll put it in and you're like, meh? And then, you know, you know, next, next frame, they're back together, unharmed.

And then, you know, then they free all their Jewish captives, you know, they put all the Nazis in a gas chamber. And they high five as they kill all those Sunday bitches screaming, park it in the shed And then they lead their you know they're free Jewish prisoners to camp after camp kick a Nazi ass all across Europe got a lot of some Putin, Juju Now if you're confused new listener, don't be just putting Juju just putting Juju Just putting Juju to a little to a party just a silly little cartoon that exists only within the time set universe Just put it in you, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, C.K. help again They asked for a clearing to be made as a landing strip for Russians to ply planes man With this advancement made news begins to reach the group you know from from Russia

They learned that the Germans had surrendered to the Red Army and Stalin grad the Russians were pushing the Nazis out of their territory Hope begins to spread man any day now could be their liberation and then July 9th 1944 group of Nazi soldiers Retreating from the front line accidentally stumbles into their town. And these Nazis open fire, throw grenades, nine of the, you know, people live in their departions at the Bilski Otroud, they die in the battle. But then the Bilski Otroud mosed-rest those fuckers down. They actually get a hold of four retreating Nazis, they capture them, and then literally beat them to death.

They're beaten to death by the camp Various men and women in the camp just beating them screaming hitting them spitting on them Crying as these German soldiers are begging for mercy and they give them none They yell this is for their mothers their sisters their brothers their fathers holy shit I cannot imagine how cathartic that must have been. I mean these Nazis really wandered into the wrong part of the woods for them You know and then the next day, the war is over. They awoke to a Russian caravan announcing that they were free and that they could go home. Unbelievable. They fucking made it. And then on July 10th, you know, 1944, the Bill's brothers lead their unit of 1,236 Jewish survivors out of the forest and back into the world. And that miraculous accomplishment takes us out of this time-subtimely.

Good job, soldier. You've made it back. Barely. Wow, how intense is that? Hiding in the woods. Literally surrounded by Nazis for years, building your own Ragtag army to join the Russians and fight the Nazis, going from stealing here and stealing there from local farmers, you know, and doing what you got to do to survive, and then building your own self-sustaining and hidden community, joining up with, you know, Russian fighters and going on raids. This is a brief overview of the many incredible and or terrible stories involving the Holocaust and the Nazis' attempted total destruction of the Jewish people. And yet, many do not believe that the Holocaust ever happened, despite all these stories

being out there. Many people don't believe the Holocaust ever happened. People who I'm guessing are likely to also believe that the Earth is flat. dumb shits, idiots of the internet. Idiots, I'll be into that. Get into that. Okay, today a video about Holocaust deniers just felt appropriate for today's suck. So I just went on YouTube and I started Holocaust deniers and I find this recent video. This is from a CNN interview posted by CNN on February 8th, 2018. So recently, where Arthur Jones is interviewed, a man slash vile ignorant piece of shit

who's running for a US Republican congressional seat in Illinois, even though the Republican Party, to their credit, urging their members not to vote for him. That's when you might wanna rethink your policies. When your own party is like, fuck that guy, uh-uh, mm-mm. Do not. He is not with us.

Uh, he's running unopposed for the party's third congressional district nomination on March 20th. He's also a former leader of the American Nazi party, and he was convicted of both bestiality and pedophilia in 2006. Uh, no, he wasn't. He wasn't convicted of bestiality or pedophilia. I just hate the guy so much. I wanted to add those things.

Uh, he was a former Nazi party leader though. Just look, back on February 29th, 2012, he was quoted as saying, the Holocaust is nothing more than an international extortion racket by the Jews. It's the blackest line history. And to make this idiotic statement even more idiotic, this guy's in 30 years old, he's 70.

He was born in 1948. He grew up in the years directly following the Holocaust. When hundreds of thousands of survivors still alive telling their stories revealing their concentration camp tattoos, Nazi war criminals, you know, crimes or war criminals or being put on trial. You know, the trials are broadcast or in the papers. You know, this is all going on. He's a young man. He especially should know better. He's a gigantic piece of shit, Wackadoodle. And he has a website artjonesforcongressmen.com where he talks about his policies. The first four listed, like the very first four policies

are listed. One, bring our troops home now to defend our borders. Two, no more sanctuary cities. Three, no amnesty for illegal aliens. Four, make English the official language. Man, you put all those together and they really paint quite a picture, don't they? Just, I don't want Americans living in non-white countries or fighting non-white wars. I don't want non-whites coming into our countries and I want as many non-whites as possible thrown the fuck out of this country. And I don't want to hear any more non-white mumbo jumbo when I'm in an Uber or buying a taco or getting my lawnmote.

So make the right vote. Make the white vote on March 20th. Yeah. February 8th, man, he spoke with CNN's, Allison, Camarota, about his Holocaust stance. They feature a recent speech where you can watch him speak. And if I was recording in the dungeon, I'd play his audio.

Instead, I'll just quote it. He says, or more accurately screams, he's like doing this little fucking pep rally, and the white majority are fed up with all these lying, cheating, thieving, warmongering, child molesting, political pimps and whores, this corrupt and decadent two-party,

Jew party, queer party system. Now I would have really screamed that as well for emphasis, but again, I'm recording in a hotel room. I'm white. I have a tattoo of Idaho and my left forearm, and you know, it doesn't paint a good picture for me to heal that stuff and then walk out of my room. I would hate to disturb somebody greatly and have them think I was just a raging white

supremacist doing my own recording in my room. And then he's interviewed, he's interviewed and he looks completely fucking insane. He looks exactly like the kind of guy you would imagine saying the kind of things I just let you know he said. He looks and I'm not kidding like Emperor Palpatine from Return of the Jedi. He looks like the evil Emperor from Star Wars. Like he's just been evil and preposterously hateful for so long that it's just, it's made it into his face.

Right? At one point in the interview, Allison reminds him that he denies the Holocaust and he gets pissed and doubles down on it. He's like, yes, I did not have the Holocaust. It's an extortion racket. Pair and simple. If you did any honest investigation to the holocaust, you'd realize there's nothing more than an international extortion racket run by the Jews to bleed blackmail extortion terrorized their enemy. He has only these programmed, these pre-programmed little fucking speeches in his head, you can tell

that you know, like you push a, he's like an angry doll of some kind, you know, where it's like you get 10 phrases, like you pull the string and then he goes, that Jews are taking all their money. And he pulled the string again. He's like, they doll of some kind, you know, where it's like you get 10 phrases like you pull the string and then he goes That Jews are taking all their money and he pulled the string again He's like they're trying to bleed the international banking market Now you pull them again. We have to get everybody out of our country just like it like the fucking he's a little hate doll All right, he's he's committed to his agenda You can tell he believes it completely and that's scary What's scary though is how many other fucking dumb fucks on the inner web believe and support him

This is the kind of shit we have to keep fighting. This is why the segment stays in this podcast man Being open-minded is great. Here in other people's opinions are wonderful But when those opinions are just aggressively racist and violent disgusting and based on nothing Which is ignorant hateful rhetoric and lies. We gotta shut that shit down. Fuck those idiots Right to act like what they say is okay or valid is just to tacitly support them. Falk them. Pieceshipped. Black for 88 is the username posts. Wonder when they are going to disable the comments. We all know they can't have this many comments from people agreeing with a Nazi, as that in quotes, speaking some undeniable truth. Right, no, I'm nuts because suppressing the truth is part of the liberal media agenda. Right, I'm so sick of that phrase and that attitude.

You know, like when any statement is made by any media person, it doesn't fit with what somebody believes. Okay, all right, part of the fucking liberal media agenda. Shut the fuck up. Right, the media agenda is just about selling fear and it has been for a long time and it probably will be for a long time. It's just, there's no group of fucking secret liberals. We're like, we gotta get more gay stuff on there. We gotta get more Jews stuff on there. Mwah!

No, it's just about making money. Same as the rest of the world. Everything's always about making money at that level, right? They just sell you fear. They sell fear, right? To work you up, to keep watching their show. Because the more you watch, the more fucking money they can get for ads.

It's a very simple equation. I'm gonna give a fuck about catering to a Jewish propaganda, unless that was a, a thing, and b, it made them a lot of money. Now man, and then user, dad, do post, to find out who rules over you, find who you were not allowed to criticize. Now, I thought that quote was from Voltaire.

And I'm gonna be honest, full disclosure, I thought that was a really cool quote. The first time I heard it, which is just very recently, just a couple days ago in the 10-foilhead podcast, we all thought it was a Voltaire quote, because that's what it says in a lot of places online. Do a little bit of digging, nope. It's from Kevin Alfred Strom, another Holocaust anire,

a white nationalist, and he's talking about the Jewish conspiracy specifically, which sucks. The suspected source of that quote is from strums 1993 essay, All America must know the terror that is upon us, which sounds like one of David Ix book titles, Kevin by the way, pled guilty to child pornography, charged in 2008, not kidding about that one. He really did get charged with that. So he's a wacky,doodle piece of shit. And the quote again does sound cool

in a different context. I would agree with it. Sounds a little rage against the machiney, you know? But no, they're talking about like, oh, you can't criticize the Jewish people because then you'll fucking destroy you. Now, you are allowed to criticize them, but when you criticize all of the Jewish people,

like as a collective group, you're being racist. Like, I don't know how people understand it. Like, what can a criticize the Jews? Because there isn't a fucking organization called the Jews. There's various Jewish people doing different things. They're not a secret fucking group. They're such a weird association with their culture, like they all know each other, right?

Which is like, whenever somebody does that, they just prove how ignorant they are. Like when they're mad at like all blacks or all whites, as if there's a secret meetings we all go to, you know? So like as if like African whenever somebody does that, they just prove how ignorant they are. Like when they're mad at like all blacks or all whites, as if there's a secret meetings we all go to. You know, it's like, as if like African Americans, you know, have like a fucking secret code, then they go meet in a bunker, and they talk about how they're going to get rid of whity.

They're going to fucking stir shit up for whity. Or like, why people do the same thing, you know, like I get to tap my shoulder, you know, when I'm at a Starbucks, you know, when there's just a bunch of white people in a Starbucks like, all right, let's go downstairs, let's talk about everything. Let's talk about suppressing everyone else for a second. Idiots. Oh my God, user dog haul posts. She's the ignorant one, referring to the interviewer. All that college and still has no brains to think for herself.

Uh huh. Fuck. Uh, aptly named racist, Kevin White posts. I wanted to donate money to fund Arthur Jones campaign for Congress of the state of Illinois, but apparently the only way to donate to contribute to his campaign is to pay through PayPal, which is owned by a Jewish merchant, March, Levchin. When I attempted to donate to his campaign through jupal, I received a prompt indicating that the recipient is currently unable to receive money.

Does anyone know how to circumvent the Jewish controlled system so we can contribute to his campaign? These fucking completed it's I love that I love that this guy does things that like because a Jewish person happens to own this particular business It's part of like this system of control, right? How do we get around this just Jewish system? They're everywhere. They're controlling everything This guy is I don, I don't know, Kevin White, if they're a met Kevin White, I am absolutely certain. He is the dumbest of fucks. Just a real piece of shit.

Just a real horrible person to hang out with, man. Just I'm sure he's just a real joy to be around, you know. Just that fucking attitude, you know, of the Jews control everything, you know? There's no way, oh Randy, Rodney Bobby, I'm by no Jew Ford. I'm taking no Jew bus. Uh-uh Not get me in a in a in a jubber in an uber neither Well then how are we getting to the Toby Keith concert Ricky Randy? We're walking Rodney Bobby on the side of the damn road He'll know I'm walking on no Jews as fault. I'm walking on no Jew walk. You know, uh-uh, we're going to the woods on our own two Aryan legs.

We're swinging through the trees in our Aryan arms if we see any Jew prints below. Like what a fucking, well weird mental space, just to live in where you're just constantly afraid of just nonsense. And the support for this asshole politics just goes on and on in this thread. Like most of the people in this thread

are complete support of this guy. Finally, user Martin Heisenna roasts all of these anti-Semites with a one sentence jab that sums up the true motivation behind their hate. I love this sentence. It just says, he just says, envy is the root of anti-Semitism. And maybe this is the famous quote that I'm just unaware of, and it's not from him, but I love it, man, too, Shay, well put, exactly. NV is the root of anti-Semitism, which is so true. It's so true, because they're always irritated

with these people in power. And they wanna associate like racial connections or the only reason they're in power, or maybe they're fucking a better human being than you. Maybe that, but that's a much tougher pill to swallow, right? Maybe they don't come from generations of fucking white trash. Right? I'm like lazy trailer trash,

just from multi-fucking generations. And their family has been working hard for generations. And that's why, and I say that, as I'm a group and a trailer for a while. But it's like, to me, it's just like, it's so obvious where it's like, you know, like, why wasn't I born into privilege? Well, because, you know, no one in my family had went to college, and they were good, great people, and worked hard, but, you know, they didn't have good jobs.

They didn't have high-paying jobs. So of course, I'm not going to be born into wealth. No one was holding this down. No one was like, no, the Cummins will not ever go to college. No, they will not. They will, they will scatter from state to state. They will work mainly as laborers. No one was fucking making that happen, making that designation for our family. There's the way she worked out, you know, I don't, I don't see this like how the Jews are the reason that I didn't get into Stanford, a Harvard. No, I fucking, the poverty is what? I didn't get together. Not taking school seriously enough in high school

was also another reason I didn't get to go. Oh, and then after this guy posts, envy is the root of anti-Semitism. About 30 other users just shit on him with posts equivalent of no Martin, Jews are the Antichrist, simple as that, that's one of the quotes. And again, this is why we did today's episode.

There is a dangerous amount of ignorance out there, right? The Holocaust or it's equivalent could easily happen again. It mean, you know, it's like, I see this, I read this historical stuff and I'm like, man, people are dumb. And then I fucking read about flatter, and I'm like, man, people are still fucking dumb. And angry and opinionated.

God, man, you know, this shit can happen again again man. Maybe with the Jews again. Maybe some other race Maybe your race whatever happens to be so don't fucking don't don't join these people's ranks man Do not listen to Darth Vader do not give yourself the dark side do not give in to these idiots of the internet Well, all right well the bells keys, I mean, not idiots. They were amazing, amazing people. I mean, finding the Nazis during the Holocaust, that for sure happened. Not only did they save over 1200 members of their group, they also did stuff like, like, have known Nazi informers assassinated in the area. Like when they would find out somebody was ratting out other Jewish people, they would have that person killed.

To prevent those informers from handing over other Jewish people they would have that person killed to prevent those Informers from from handing over other Jewish people hide in places they didn't even know about so who so who knows how many people they really saved You know they rated the homes of Nazi sympathizers you know to build themselves an arsenal of guns They did all of that when the shitter has been grieving the loss of their parents their siblings or kids their wives And then what happened to them after the war? Where are they now? Well, after the war, Tuvia and his wife, Lilla, Lilka, Tickton, who also survived the war, went to Israel via Romania, ultimately immigrated to the United States in 1956. They joined another Bielski brother who didn't fight with them, but survived the war, older brother Walter,

who had moved to New York before the war started. Tuvia and Zeus ran a small trucking firm in New York City for 30 years. He and Luka remained married for the remainder of their lives, had three kids, sons Michael and Robert, daughter Ruth, ten grandkids, granddaughter Sharon Renert, made a documentary about her family called In Our Hands, the legacy of the Bielski Partisans. When Tuvia died in 1987 at the age of 81, he was initially buried on Long Island. One year after his death, his remains were exhumed, taken to Jerusalem, where he was given a state funeral with full military honors in 1988. After the war, Zeus initially moved to Israel with Tuvia and Ilka.

In his own wife, he met at the Bilsky Camp, Sonia. He died of cardiac arrest in Brooklyn at age 82. 1995, he survived by his wife Sonia sons David Jay Zvi and Six grandchildren Jay served in the Israel Defense Force as a volunteer during the 1973 war Zvi served in the In the with the Israeli paratroopers during the Lebanon incursion Matthew and Alon Jay son served in special forces unit within the elite Israeli paratroopers. A soil after the Soviet occupation of the area and their freedom of soil joined the Soviet red army in six months later, he was killed.

Fighting the Nazis in the Battle of Konensburg, 1945. He never lived to see his daughter, Asalia, whom he had fathered with Shah, a woman he had met with the Bilski camp who he married before heading out to fight again. Our own Bilski, now known as Aaron Bell, is still alive. He's 90 years old, living in Palm Beach, man, still fucking kicking it. Down in Florida, you know, got a shorts pulled up too high, got some orthopedic shoes on,

and he's fucking loving it. Actually, he looks really good, man. He can find recent pictures. He's looking great. He worked for his brothers, Tuvea and Zeus, New York for a time, and they're trucking business. He and his first wife, Judith, had three kids, 12 grand pictures, he's looking great. He worked for his brothers, two of you on Zeus, New York for a time, and their trucking business. He has first wife, Judith had three kids, 12 grandkids, then he remarried. And I'm guessing if he knows anything about Illinois holocaust and Arthur Jones, he hates that guy's fucking guts and would

like to do to him what he did to the Nazis. All right, now it is time for top five takeaways. Time, suck, top five takeaways. Number one, more than 20,000 descendants of the survivors of the Bill skis help save our life today, including Trump, Sun and Law, Jared Kushner. That's just so interesting for me to think about. Like he and Ivanka's three kids, President Trump's grandkids wouldn't be here

without the Bill skis. That's just weird for me to like really picture it where it's like, you know, years ago, I would watch your apprentice here and there, and I was always kind of impressed by Ivanka and her composure and everything on that show. And she's interesting to me that like her children would, they would not be here. She would not have the kids she has if it wasn't for the Belskis. Incredible. The 2008 Dan U Craig film defiance based on the Billske brothers, and I got to say yeah damn good movie I got to you know finally watch that I missed it somehow use this as a good excuse to watch it The Billskees oversaw the building of a hidden town number three the Billskees oversaw the building of a hidden town in the woods

We're over 1200 Jewish men women and children. We're not only hiding but working dancing sleeping and actual Walden structures Even following love man while the war raged around them. Number four, Illinois politician Arthur Jones is a disgusting piece of shit. And number five, New Info, you know, that I hadn't talked about already in this episode. When defines it theaters, there was controversy regarding the film. It was regarding the portrayal of the Bill's Kid detachment, because there were accusations by some in Eastern Europe that they were involved in a massacre of Polish anti-Nazi resistance fighters by pro-Soviet partisans at the Nalaboki forest in Eastern Poland on May 8, 1943, where I think it was about 150 people were killed and including some kids.

And they claimed that the Bill's Key were involved because they were stationed 37 miles away from the area at the time. Some felt that they killed not only Nazis, but some of their fellow Polish citizens, and they should have been brought up on war crimes. However, historians feel that they were either not involved, or if they were there, that they were not able to stop the larger Russian force from killing these other freedom fighters. And they were never charged for anything. I just think this was worth mentioning because it does come up if you research them, you know, and if you see one of those headlines, I just want you to know that I was aware of it. Yes, and there were their drummers, but they seem to be pretty unfounded. Time, suck, tough, five, take away.

All right, the Bill's ski brothers have been sucked, sucked dry, sucked so good, sucked so good, some solid brother sucking done here today. That's not a weird thing at all to say out loud. Sorry if I wasn't as bombastic as I am normally, it's like the small town Idaho and me does not allow myself to perform the same way in a hotel room as I wouldn't suck down here because I feel guilty, especially I'm doing this early, doing this this morning, recording it day of, and I don't want to be the root guest screaming and waking up other people. Now go out there and grab some tickets to my flat earth tour. We can come see me in the comedy club and I will fucking say anything I want as loud as I want. All right, I'll be at hilarities and Cleveland Ohio next weekend, March 22 to 24th,

get it, it's gonna be so much fun, I love that club. So many more shows at dandcomans.tv. Check out those dates, Natsup, some ticks, get some ticks. Get some ticks, you dicks. Thanks to Harmony Velocamp, Jesse Doberner, the entire time suck team. Special thanks to Bojangles Research Team member,

my sister Donna Hale for coming up with today's topic. Keegan off the research. Happy to have her doing some more episodes. And happy to have this topic now as part of the suck lore. And thanks for all the reviews and spread in the suck, man. Thanks for posting on social media, reference in the time suck on Reddit. You know, I found out, you'll see here

in one of the time suck updates, say that somebody found out about the show all the way over in Iceland due to Reddit, or Reddit, due to JJ Reddick. JJ Reddick, you know, fucking NBA NBA player is talking a lot about time suck now they found it out because of reddit Every review helps man next Monday's episode back in the suck dungeon to record it all Hopefully have more than three hours sleep for that one. It's been a long week. It's good week good week this week And now my wife is fucking in the office. I'm in the office. We're getting organized. Can't wait.

Gonna make the show even better. But yeah, this next topic, second space lizard vote winner Chernobyl. We're going nuclear. And I probably, you know what? I probably said that wrong. That word, I'm so anxious about that word now because of all my mistakes.

But again, remember, there is alternate pronunciation. So whichever way I'm doing it is correct to somebody. So you don't go nuclear over my pronunciation of nuclear, all right? Nuclear nuclear. I know that's how everybody wants it. My brain. It's something about an accent. My mouth doesn't want to say however you supposed to say it, you know, academically. I'll probably, you know, I'll put it in my head as much as possible and just fucking get over it. It's gonna be a lot of interesting content. We're going back to Russia. We just can't seem to stay out of Eastern Europe

for very long for some reason. Not sure what the hell that it's about. Guess Chiquitilo may show up in his homeland. Well, it's just a big deal. It's just like I read the O'acto of Chiquitilo, no. Guess we're gonna learn a lot about how radiation works. If it's safe to be around Chernobyl or not today, nuclear reactor, you know, melted down back in 86.

People are still speculating today about how much damage has been caused because of it. You know, melted down back in 86. People are still speculating today About how much damage has been caused because of it. Yeah, do a bunch of animals now have multiple heads Desert frogs out there with four heads that sing in barbershop quartets sweet Clementine I don't know how many how many superheroes have been created there, you know toxic ways apparently make superheroes I know that from some comic books We're gonna find out next week we're gonna find out so much and let's find out what your suckers have been up to this past week with some time sucker updates Okay, this first update seemed pertinent to this week's sec Okay, this first update seemed pertinent to this week's Suck. Comes in from Sucker Ben and Ben Rines to your Suck Lord Dan.

I've been listening to your comedy albums for a few years now. I'm actually listening to one of your podcasts while typing this. Yes, feel the Suck, feel it. Just listen to your comments on Black Lives and how you see them as a justified group. While I agree with other movements for the black community black lives matters Movement themselves has been labeled as a terrorist organization by the FBI Forza's destruction of black communities in large cities and this is in reference to the KKK time suck I have lived in Charlotte all my life was around for the riots and saw the aftermath and it didn't solve anything

I'm not saying that that black Americans haven't struggled in past, but they aren't particularly suffering in the same way. Now, white people are actually killed by police more often than blacks. These crimes don't make it on the news as much because it's not as interesting. I feel that's just only my opinion. I'm also not saying what caused these protests was good by any means, but rights and destruction is no way to react. So far, for making this email so long, I appreciate your open mind in this. You are truly awesome.

Awesome. One of the funniest people ever. I don't know. I appreciate your open mind in this. You are truly awesome. Awesome. One of the funniest people ever. That's, I don't know. I don't know about that, but I like that you think that. Keep thinking that. Keep telling other people that. Your podcast really speaks to me. Again, sorry for the long email.

I hope to see you in Charlotte. Yeah, get out to that show. Reject the temp for Sluza Fina. Don't turn it into an everyday chicken Tilo. May you ride away from her on Bojangles and may his speed be powered by Niemrutt. Since the early long time fan, new time, new time sucker. Ben, yes, thank you Ben.

I have heard from other listeners that listened to that KKK episode about the Black Lives Matters organization. In fact, being pretty racist themselves, sometimes to other African-Americans, which is sad and destructive and that's too bad. I've also heard some, you know, summer openly, you know, some of these organizations, you know,

some of the groups of the Black Lives Matter organization are openly racist against white people, which is terrible, you know, hating any color of people as racist. Now regarding really quick, though regarding more whites being killed by police in blacks, that's actually technically true, but also a misinterpretation

and a common misinterpretation of the data out there. And I'll explain what I'm talking about here. Here's some results of a two from 2017 data released by Newsweek on December 29, 2017. Now it says police in US killed 1,129 people so far in 2017 and only a quarter of those killed were black, but the African Americans only compromised 13% of the population. So in addition to being 25% of the victims, black people are also three times as likely to be killed by police as white people according to this report. And it was done by mapping police violence and it was released Thursday, you know, the

time of this article's release. So you see like, well, the total number, this is what happens a lot of times with numbers out there on the web, people can skew statistics to serve their agenda and do so all the time. And I always think about like per percentages with stuff where it's like, and you can use this argument in a number of ways where it's like, well, how come there's, sometimes I think like when people get angry, it's like, oh my god, there's only, let's say in this example, one African American who is doing this kind of job or whatever. But I always

think, yes, but how many, how does that represent the total population? Like, let's say there's four positions available for a job and someone says, well, you know, half of them, you know, better be African American. Well, that's not representative of the population, you know, if the percentage is only like, you know's not representative of the population. If the percentage is only like, you know, not aware of it, like what to say, 13%. Okay, that makes sense for 13% of those positions, which doesn't really work well in my numbers here for four. That's not 25%. But you know what I mean? It should be representative of the percentage of the population. And with crime, and with police reaction and crime, unfortunately, the police do kill

a much higher, much higher percentage of black Americans than white Americans, which is disturbing and alarming. And that's why there's so much uproar about that. So yes, while the total number is less, the total number is less because the total number of African Americans compared to Caucasians is still significantly less. There are significantly less African Americans than there are Caucasians in the United States. Back to the circle to the original point, or circling back to the original point, yes. At the time, I recorded that episode.

I did not realize the Black Lives Matter movement was associated with so much negativity. I had not been around it personally, and, uh, yes, that bummed me out when I heard all that information, you know. And, uh, and you're right about the media. I do think they're guilty of sensationalism all the time. I do think certain crimes are sexier than others. I think both like Black crime and the police reaction. Two Black crime gets way too much media attention. Uh, you know, sometimes I don't think they're doing it for the right reasons. They're not doing it to

expose, you know, bad things going on. They're just doing it to push ratings and fucking whip people up and make them angry. And that is, you know, not always a good thing clearly. You know, spread it around, man. I mean, you know, make your crime reporting, you know, fair racially, like a TV show cops does. You guys are, you guys still watch that show? Still on. I'm pretty sure there's still doing new episodes. It's been like, you know, bad boys, bad boys. What you gonna do? That's actually a weird example of equality.

I don't know if I've watched probably too many episodes of the course of my life, but you know, the cops, they really fucking go after a little bit of everybody in that show. I'm not even kidding. They go after, you know, white, black, brown dumb shits with equal gusto in its refreshing to see there's white cops, black cops, Hispanic cops, Asian cops, chasing after Asian criminals, Mexican criminals, fucking South American criminals, fucking Eastern European

criminals, African criminals, just fucking a little bit of everything. And it's so great. Afros and mullets and fucking, you know, slick back, pomade hair, all being chased after on cops. It's great. Okay, this next update from Brady, the trailer cracked me the hell up. He just says, the order of what? Just listening to the Alistair Crowley episode and I swore to Nimrod the first five times you said it. I heard the order of the golden dong instead of the order of the golden dong.

The worst part is I thought I was fitting for him and didn't question it those first five times. It's clearly way too early for me to listen to the suck. Keep on bringing the suck no matter what time of day, sincerely, Matamozel. So let I know what that stands for now, those letters. Dr. Matamozel, Dr. Brady, Traer, Esquire, the seventh. You are hilarious Brady and your name is the best.

And yeah, that would make it kind of fitting. You know, it would be a wacky name, but it wouldn't be out of character. If you haven't heard the Oscar Crowley episode yet, you listers, yeah. You weird dude. He's part of the older, order of the Golden Dawn, but order of the Golden Dawn, I like that better. That sounds like a fun order to be a part of. Sounds, sounds weird, you know? It's like a picture of a bunch of dudes and costumes, you know, I guess it doesn't have to be dudes. Women and dudes Just like worshiping just just this giant golden fucking wiener statue. Okay, next update.

Very kind one from Time Sucker Lex. He says, hey, Dan, I'm gonna try and make this quick. I'm using the Android app So sorry for the auto-correct bullshit. I just wanted to let you know you've made a major improvement on my depression I've been dealing with it on and off for years these past two years have been really difficult with the hurricane and some family issues Told my girlfriend that I was depressed again She told me that if I feel like hurting myself I need to get help or at least call the suicide hotline Thanks to you in the co-bein episode. I feel like I had the perfect answer to this fuck yeah, buddy I told her don't worry. I won't try. I really don't want to end up in Nimrod's asshole I told her, don't worry, I won't try. I really don't want to end up in Nimrod's asshole.

This podcast has been the perfect way for me to distract myself when I get down and love learning some news shit. And I love learning some news shit. Can't wait to see you on San Antonio, yeah buddy. Oh, and I'm a space lizard, and I just listened to the fifth episode with your wife, let us know that she will be

assisting you with the podcast. Oh, thank God. She's like the anti-Lusufina. So all hail St. Lindsay, unless that a fencer than my bad, but thanks for having me with this. Keep on sucking Lex. Well Lex, that's so think, God. She's like the anti-Lusufina. So all hail St. Lindsay, unless I'm a fencer than my bad, but thanks for your help with this. Keep on sucking Lex. Well, Lex, that's so nice, man. I love how happy this makes you.

Yeah, man, I don't wanna end up in a Nimrod's Butthole either. It's fucking that's hell, man. Nimrod's Butthole. Don't let Lucufina trick you into wanting in there. She'll try and get you in there. Just come on, come and join me. I'll just be in Nimrod's Butthole. Just get in here.

Oh, be gone, Lucufina. Mm. And St. Lindsay, I think she will like that very much. You know, I think she'll like that a lot. Although she does have a certain amount of Lucifina in her as well, and I like it, man. There is for sure a reason. I have a tattoo of a half angel, half devil lady

on my left shoulder. Yeah, I like to like a little bit of naughty. You keep on fucking sucking two legs. One more from a Norse sucker, writing in about the Norse episode last week. Hi, I'm a listener from Iceland, found the podcast on Reddit, oh, and in Iceland. So currently live in Iceland, found the podcast on Reddit. That's what I was talking earlier. And having a listing non-stop since I love the Norse God episode was afraid of some butchering mythology, but it of course was well researched and very well

done. Oh, thanks man. I was nervous as shit for that one. I just wanted to add that Loki's father in the Marvel movie was a frost giant named Lafay. But that's a female name like mine ends in EY. That is the only thing that bothered me in the Marvel movies and I can't recall if you mentioned that point. No, I did not. So thank you for bringing that up.

Also your pronunciation was good. Oh man, I hope so. I know I messed up a lot of stuff. I especially noted that my siblings names Freya and Astorla, as in Snory Storlison. My sister has no problems with her name outside the country, but my brother gave up on making people say his outside the country.

Keep on doing a great show. Love the Nimrod, Bojangles, Lucifina and the Juju Comic-Side Story. It's great. And if you've gotten me a of times with the made up stories, which I love, oh yes, thank you. And I hopefully I get to see your shows one day. I hope so too. I hope we get to see you in Iceland. I would love to make it out there. And then by the way, after all those kind words about pronunciation, I read your name and I'm like, oh shit. I hope I'm going to get this right. Valet, valet, valet.

I hope it's valet. And then, Yogel Stacher. Yogel Stacher. Is that right? Valet Yogel Stacher. Yogel Stacher. I feel like I have to say it with an accent again. I found an Icelandic author that shared

your surname of Yogel Stacher. And again, it's tricky to get my tongue to cooperate. But I think that's got to be close, right? Man, love listening, or I love that you're listening in Iceland. Man, I really want to go there someday. Really, really, really want to go there. I've got to make it to Snory Stirlisson's old stomping grounds. Got to, got to track me down a fucking spider horse to ride.

You know, maybe raise a goat, draw on chariot. Thanks for listening, Valley. Spread the word over there. So I can do an Iceland show. We'd love to get out the Reykjavik. Thanks, time suckers. I need a net. We all did. Well, that was all, you know, for today.

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