Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #1007: Inside the World of Rothschild Spycraft with Jay Dyer

Episode Date: July 15, 2026

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Rupert Lowe just went on Joe Rogan, and he got all this attention last week calling out Fabian Socialism, because that's what Kier Starrmer and the dominant party in the UK is. I've been saying this for so many years because we've been reading and studying the Fabian Socialists. That's not that's not antithetical to the Rothschild interest. So if you talk about Fabian socialism, all the Hitler bots will be, you won't talk about the Jews. And it's like it's not, it's the same interest dummy. It's the Rothschild that funded the Fabian Socialist to come to power. It's the Milner Fabian Rothschild circles that creates this idei. that has destroyed England through slow socialism.

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He's going to get into it. The Man, the Myth of Legend. Jay Dyer, how are you, buddy? What's up, dude? Glad to be back with you, guys. It's one of my favorite podcasts. always love coming on and yucking it up with you dudes dude you're on you're all over the place i'm super proud of you man you're making it happen yeah we just did tucker that's going to come out

monday so that'll be a huge one we did bang bang pow we were there for you spent the whole day with him we talked for over two hours on a podcast and uh it was it was full on tuck dude fool you got tucked bro did you do it too did you do it too tucker did you do it I was so cucked by tuck that he gave me a bunch of free Alps so I'm over here

I'm over here nice dude I don't even care if it's made in India I'm going with it I love that I can dash the India in my mouth right no dude I love it where can they find you buddy you find me a Jay

Dyer on YouTube Jay Dyer on X you can find me at my website analysis.com, Instagram, all the same stuff, just my name. Love it, dude. Your website is pure fire, dude. I had to redo it all because the code died, so.

Dude, sending thoughts and prayers to the code's family. Sorry for your loss. But, you know, you know, so I just feel very, I feel fair. Well, it was a Nigerian dude who wrote the code and I wrote him and I was like, can you update this code? Because I have to read the whole website. And he's like, no, I cannot do that for you. Sorry.

He was like, fuck you, white man. Fuck you. So what's new, dude? Well, I don't know what you guys wanted to chat about. I got a bunch. I've been covering whole history of the OSS and CIA in terms of his origins. Yeah, let's go, dude. Did you know they bird them Assad?

You probably knew that. Of course, dude. I know you knew that. but like of course maybe the audience don't know but then we've been uh i did a rothschild's biography i've been doing all kinds of crazy deep stuff because this is a this is an approved rothschilds biography right so i like to go to the sources i don't try to do a lot of speculation i've been in deep in this book which is a whole history of vatican spies their operations they've been compromised for a long time so what uh what sounds interesting to you guys

wherever you want to start brother we're down for whatever whenever um you know the uh i think one thing that's interesting about these recent books i've been diving into is people think of spycraft they think of it like you know james bond and all the kind of sexy shit but really it's all modern spycraft is banking it comes out of banking families and bankers trying to like get advanced in on markets. You know, we saw in the Epstein emails, there was dialogue between Jeffrey and Ariana DeRald. And in that dialogue, they were talking about where there would be crisis points in the world and then how they could move money on the basis of the crises. And so a lot of

intelligence stuff, espionage stuff, is actually about finding advanced information just to move money for insiders. And that's why Epstein was like, yeah, we'll move on money over here and then we'll leave the goy idiots with the, you know, the leftovers holding the bags. But that's the same thing that the Rothschilds were doing hundreds of years ago. In the biography, they have that story of Waterloo where they had advanced intelligence on who won Waterloo. And that's, it ends up being a true story. And so Nathan Rothschild, when he was in London, he started dumping his stock, which made everybody think that because the Rothschild's had such a vast, accurate intelligence network that he knew what was up.

So that everybody else started dumping their stock. And then when it got down to the tanked out bottom, he just started buying it up. And it was all fake because they already knew from the inside they had basically flipped Napoleon. Because everybody that opposed them, whether it was other banking elites or whether it was Napoleon or whoever, they would just buy them off. So they had so much money from that empire. They were able to literally just buy off anybody that opposed them. So the model of advanced intelligence, gaming markets, like, that's the same thing that they're doing. Fast forward to Epstein and those emails, you know, Epstein says to Peter Thiel, I represent the Rothschild.

You know that, right? I mean, that's really what's the master manipulation that's going on behind all this is the banking elites. I mean, I know a lot of this conspiracy world kind of thinks that's true, but it's one thing to think it's true, but then it's another thing to read the approved biographies by fellow Jewish people who are not anti-Semitic who don't, they like the Rothels. And to have it all admitted in the biography, you know what I mean? I've always, well, I haven't always, but I've come to believe that the intelligence agencies are just security for the bank. bankers. Their whole job is to make sure their investments are taking care of, to create avenues, like you said, for investment, and we're to move banks or money around. Now, Susan Bratford that

we've had on a show, she said something very interesting, and that is that Putin is the secret banker of the Rothschilds. Like when they want to hide their money, what a great place to do it is Russia, which is outside of the SWIF system, or at least trying to be. And that's why a lot of the people, they laugh when everyone's like, you know, Elon Musk was the first trillionaire and the Rothschilds are laughing, you know, because they're so beyond that, who even knows what number they're at?

Yeah, we don't know. That's the thing we don't know. In the, in the biography, the guy, the Morton, he wrote that in 1962. And it's not an official biography of the Rothschilds, but it's an approved biography. So he had access to their archives. And speaking of Russia,

it's funny you said that because I just shared, on Twitter today. I found this in the Rothschild archives of the website. You can go to the Rothschild archives. A lot of the stuff's public at their website. And there's an article about the history of their relationship with Russia. They were giving loans to the Russian Tsars in the 1800s. So Russia was already in trouble way, way, way before the Bullswick Revolution. The Tsars were having a lot of trouble maintaining power. They were already in debt to London Rothel banking interests. And so, when there was laws against, you know, rabbinic Judaism and what Jews could do in Russia,

the Rothschild basically said, you got to get rid of these laws or else you're cut off from the spigot. No more loans for you. So this is what caused this massive tension between the Rothschilds. And they even say that if you go to the archives that I put up on the screenshots on my Twitter today, in the archives, they say it wasn't just a Rothschild. It was also Coonin-Lob, Schiff, Warburg, all the same people that we know funded the Bolsheviks were all part of the same combine of banking interests that wanted to unseat the Tsars. And so there was support by basically all of the international banking clique.

And it's not just the Jewish banking elites. It's also the Rockefellers in New York, according to Anthony Sutton. He's shown all that as well. That's a big thing that Michael Hoffman came on and said. He's like, yeah, I mean, if you want to believe the story of Hitler, which I don't at all. But if you want to believe what all the Hitler dickriders say, yeah, he got rid of Jewish bankers and he replaced them with Aryan bankers who were just doing the exact same thing. Well, he got rid of, he went after one of the members of the Rothschild's family in Austria. So if you go back to the, it's helpful to go back to him.

By the way, I was going to comment on the Putin thing. So basically Russia has been in a problem situation for a long time. It's possible that there's secret banking that goes on. I don't know. But I do know that Putin had, you know, he went to war with the oligarchs in Russia, which are actually just the Jewish mafia in the 90s. And he booted a bunch of them out and they went back to Britain. This is like Boris Berzovsky.

This is Abramovich, not Marine Abramovich, but Roman Abramovich, whatever's name is. So there's a bunch of these guys that are called the, the Russian oligarchs. But they sided with British intelligence and they got safe haven in the UK. And that's what led to some of these mysterious unalivings that people think that Putin and the Russians were still engaged in these attacks on these people. But so there's a degree of opposition there, whether there's secret banking, I don't know. But I mean, I'm not like a Putin cheerleader because Russia has all the same problems as the West.

So it's not like somehow Russia is like a bastion of freedom. or something like that. I mean, they had the same temptations of technocracy and fiat banking and all the same problems that the rest of the world has. But the Rothschild basically had huge hand in Russia and the downfall of Russia in 1800s. And they did the same thing with the papacy, the Vatican papal states. So they sent five of their sons out, Myr-Ansel Rothschild. He said the five sons out to different places in Europe.

This is in the biography, just not even. That's why I love going to these biographies because most of the conspiracy stuff, like you said today on Twitter, it's like conspiracy, there's all. always end up being right. But we're the most hated people, even though we're almost always right about this stuff. But you can go read it in the bios. Like they just admit all this stuff.

So he sent his five sons out all throughout Europe. And he was even perceptive enough to know that he would have some children that were liberal and some that were more conservative. So he would send the conservative sons to more conservative places in Europe. And then he was in the liberal sons to other places like France or whatever. And they ended up doing the same model. of what he did and they would intermarry primarily with other wealthy Jewish banking families, but also he allowed his daughters to intermarry with wealthy Catholic families so that he could

solidify the broadest base of support. And he tried to marry them off to the wealthiest people. So it was basically just combining dynasties. And like you said, Morton says in the biography, he says nobody even knew what assets they had because they always kept it secret. And they knew enough about espionage that they created their own code language that was a combination of Yiddish, Hebrew, and German.

And nobody could crack this code because it was like three different languages all mixed up. So that's how they had this advanced intelligence. They had agents all throughout Europe. But to get to your point about tiny mustache, man, yeah, so basically we know that the BIS was set up by Alan Dulles, McKittrick, a bunch of people out of the OSS and CIA.

That was set up with J.P. Morgan money, at least. And it was originally the Reichs Bank. So it was the original German pro tiny mustache man bank. The funding for a lot of that is still secret. People don't realize that the BIS and banking stuff is still secret. Just like the Rothschild assets are still secret, even according to their mainstream biographies. So we don't know how much money they had.

We don't know exactly what money went where. But if it's true that J.P. Morgan was a front in America for the Rothschild interest, which it seems like it was, then that's what helped Hitler come to power. So the fact that Hitler arrested one of the Rothschild interests in Austria, there's like 15 other Rothschilds in the rest of Europe. So it really doesn't do anything ultimately. He might have tried to maybe he did rebel against. his funders. Maybe he thought I could take this, you know, entity down or whatever. But it still doesn't

change the fact that they did, at least through J.B. Morgan, other interests, help him come to power. Yeah, I'm with you on that. It's kind of crazy and how they've had their hand and everything. And I've been telling everybody this. And it's, it's almost blackpilled at this point. But, you know, the Rothschilds, the international banking couple, the bank of international settlements, whatever group you want to call it, they've just imploded China, Russia, India, and Germany. And what do all those countries have in common?

They were both economic and military powers. I hate to tell everybody, it looks like it's happening in America too. Yeah, well, they had a huge push. And as we said in the past, you know, I've been on talking about Fabian socialism. And you just saw that guy,

Rupert Lowe, just went on Joe Rogan. and he got all this attention last week calling out Fabian socialism because that's what Kier Starrmer and the dominant party in the UK is. I've been saying this for so many years because we've been reading and studying the Fabian Socialists. That's not that's not antithetical to the Rothschild interest. So if you talk about Fabian socialism, all the, you know, Hitler bots will be like,

you won't talk about the Jews. And it's like it's not a, it's the same interest dummy. It's the Rothschild that funded the Fabian Socialist to come to power. It's the Milner Fabian Rothschild circles that creates this. ideology that has destroyed England through slow socialism. Yep, you're totally right, dude.

And it's the same model of the American Federal Reserve Bank. So all of that stuff is not conspiracy. It's actually true. And they even brag in the book that by the 1800s, early 1800s, actually, they had already set up the international banking intelligence network throughout Europe and then eventually throughout the world. By the 1850s and late 1800s, they were already

loaning basically to anybody. And the other thing that's fascinating that I think speaks to why they were so successful, right? I mean, there's sections where it talks about them like consistently reading the Talmud every day. Myr-Amshel was an avid Talmudicry. He would read it out to his family like every day. But that's not the only reason they were successful.

He understood that this battle was generational. And he knew that to take over Europe, it would take into, the next century and beyond. So he planned ahead and he told his sons and his daughters, you have to train the sons and the daughters in this same model. He called it the family. The book even capitalized it with capital F, the family. So it's literally like a mafia structure. It's Tony Sopranosur, right? But expanded at a international level. And they're not selling drugs. They're like loaning money. So it's like if Tony Soprano had figured out that the real money was in banking, he could have been a lot more successful. But.

Well, you're completely and utterly right, dude. And it's, and it's, again, I don't want, I got into the Tyler Robinson shit in the last episode. I don't want to do it that much here because there's so much to talk about. But, you know, I saw a couple people who I love, some people I don't love, commenting about his parents, you know, well, you know, if he didn't do it, why would his parents turn him in? why would his mother say it's him in the video? And I go, if you don't understand the world of conspiracies and the world of siops and the world of Patsies, you would think that thought.

But if you actually study it, you would understand that the parents are always putting their kids in these positions constantly. And if you, let's take away conspiracies. Let's take away the Tyler Robinson shit. Let's just look at Hollywood and how many of these parents throw their kids into meat grinders to the point that they come out completely damage, drug addicts, and end up dying early. They're psychopaths, dude. And they're all playing a game, dude.

I mean, if you get into the satanic ritual abuse, I mean, it's always, like a lot of time it's foster care for sure. I'm not saying it's not or runaway kids. but there is a lot of times it is the parents that throw their kids right into the chaos. So it's like when you start talking about the Rothschild and training their kids. Yeah. I get it. Like my kids, I try to train them. They're wild people.

I love them the pieces. They're their dad. They are their dad. And I get why my mother went nuts. Okay. I fucking get it, dude. All right. But you watch these what they call tiger moms.

Yeah. These tiger moms, dude, they're like on their kids. And there's a, there's, there's, there's some positive to that. Their kids are really, talking about Bobby Lee. He's a tiger mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you get into these moms that really are like strict with their kids. There's a lot good to that.

Their kids are very focused. I tend to find them less creative, to be honest with you. You know, the creativity comes from the wild ones. Right. But the people who could, what I say, are intelligent. They're not necessarily. smart. They're very intelligent. There's two different things. Intelligence is understanding structures. Okay. Smart is wisdom. Okay. They're very, they're very intelligent people. You could

throw them in any system and they're terminators, but they're not very creative. You know, you see that. Yeah, Quigley says at the end of Trageding Hope that this is really a technique that the elite learned a long time ago. And they would send their kids to boarding schools, very elite boarding schools when they're very young on purpose because they intentionally keep them from the mother's nurturing phase so that because they knew that would produce a lot more psychopathy. You remember when the Epstein stuff was coming out and it was one of the like the princess of Norway or one of those Nordic countries and she was literally saying, hey, Jeff, would you take my son and train him up? Oh, by the way, we have our daughter. We want her to

marry you. We want you to train her. Remember that? Unbelievable. The Royalty offering to Epstein, dude. Isn't that crazy? And it's the same model that Maxwell did with Just Lane because Robert Maxwell was brought in and recruited by the Rothschilds. He was one of their agents, one of their operatives. They taught him the whole corporate takeover structure. That's originally what Robert Maxwell was, was a corporate vulture takeover guy. And then he trained just Lane to do the exact same stuff. And so it's all sort of training. And so it's all sort of training in this alternate reality that they that the elite and the rothos especially the way they view the world is so different in the way that everyone else views the world but they learned

because when mire was like just in the jewish ghetto in the 1700s in austria in frankfort he wanted to be at the level of the elite and he realized that the only way to get into that was to be to be wealthy and so he started with making loans microloans to other jews and then he did microloans to nobles and then eventually he started climbing the ladder and then he then he was eventually making loans to the german princes and house stream princes and eventually they were loaning to everybody so usry is really the way to climb this oh yeah dude for sure that's why it was like illegal in the bible yes they they lobbied to get those laws changed because all this stuff was illegal. And so they found the right

moles within government that they could compromise. Or they funded the people to get in there, right? It's like, yeah, they would fund the opposition all the time. In fact, they were so that's, I'm glad you mentioned that because they were so perceptive at how to do this kind of intelligence stuff that whenever

there would be a head of state that would begin to challenge them, they would leak disinformation that there was funding of revolutionaries, which was made up. But this would cause a panic in the market in that country. So they knew how to tank the market in a rival country so that those people would get in line.

So they didn't even have to go to war. But as the mother, her name was Gutella, not Natella, but Gutella Rothschild, the matriarch. She said, no war happens in Europe unless my sons decide. So that's in the biography. They brag about that. But by the 19 or excuse me, by the 18, mid-1800s, they were the. official gold brokers and bankers to the Bank of England and the Royals, the Queen. At that time, Queen Victoria, right?

So when we, people are always trying to figure out, oh, like, is it the British Royals or is it the Rothschilds? Like, they were the bankers to the British Royals. So they ran the Bank of England. And they had with them. I'm saying they're the ones that are the using the British Empire. They're the, the British Empire becomes a cutout for them, I think. But doesn't, wouldn't you just say the Bank of? of England is the Rothschild just like the much because the way he the international

settlements the way he characterizes it is they're the brokers they're the ones basically setting the international standards in fact the biography credits them for creating the international banking standard that we have 100 so all international banking today operates on the model that they set up in the 1800s originally it was called the paribos system in france but eventually it just took over So the gold standard, all of that stuff from the 1800s is really just the Rothel standard that they set up, which is pretty crazy. Ordering pants online, it gets real hard. But guess what? Our good friends at Jack Archer, they got it down nice and smooth.

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They say we just, in fact, the only time that in this biography, a ritual comes up. And they don't, it doesn't explain what the ritual it is. It just says there was this ritual where anytime. the sons or daughters were going to be married, they would have to come to Frankfurt, they participate in a ritual, and the matriarch, Myers' wife, Gatela, she would have to approve of the marriage, and they had to be instructed in these sort of secret things. So it doesn't say what it was, but my suspicion is that it would probably be something Kabbalistic because they were avid practitioner. I mean, they read the Talmud every day.

So that's also the principles for how they would do usury and how they would do these operations. Because I kind of think that the Talmud, I mean, it's a lot of things, obviously, but it's also a way to kind of run a secret society, religious, genetic cult. And he even says in the first five pages that they also were very avid practitioners of I-N-C-E-S-T. So they would marry very closely to the bloodline, as you said. I'm just saying it admits your point that yeah they would marry within typically if they could the only way they would the only way they would marry out was if it was a super wealthy family like they're deciding they're deciding who the kids marry like they're not you're not it's not there's no free will in that there's no love yeah right it's like this is what's best

for the family and exactly go back in the past men families would marry their daughters off to whoever had the most goats because that was economically the best thing to do. Now it's all like feeling and love and everyone's getting divorced all the time. Or if you're a Muslim, you marry them to the ghost. Yes. Or if you marry them to the ghost. Okay.

So, so I completely utterly agree with every, every point of what you're saying. It's like, it's kind of crazy how powerful they are, dude. I mean, I didn't even expect it to be this intricate. I thought, okay, yeah, they had a lot of wealth. and they probably loaned. But I didn't realize how strategic it was. That's what people don't understand is how strategic it was. They even got into the papacy hardcore in the 1830s.

So Gregory the 16th was the Pope in the 1830s. They made massive loans to him. And I'm not a fan of the papacy, but this is actually how the papacy, according to the biography, eventually sort of waned. They had to reach out. They were losing money and influence because if you don't know, the papacy is also a geopolitical,

state, right? It's its own sovereign entity, it has been for a long time. So it's not just a church, it's also like an international state like Washington, D.C. or Tel Aviv or whatever. It's its own city state. So they used to have a standing army. They used to have all these things. And they were losing money. And so they had to reach out to the Rottos to get loans. And this eventually put them in deep into debt. And by a few decades, the papacy lost the papal states because Carl, Carl Rothschild was the son that went to Italy. And he basically took over the entire Italian peninsula, it says on page 91,

ultimately through a lot of these loans to the papacy. So they took over all these things. They had their own mail system. They had their own courier system that was actually better than the state-run mail system. Of course, if you have all the money in the world, you can make the best system happen. Exactly.

they set up, as we said, the worldwide gold credit system in 1800s that became the norm. And he even argues they're kind of the representation of the end of feudal man and feudal lords. And they become the banking lords. And so if you read like Spangler, he talks about transitioning out of the feudal period into what he calls homo-economicus or economic man. So this is the period when we get man seen as primarily an economic unit. it. And this is why monopoly capitalism isn't ultimately antithetical to Marxism, because these are the same people funding Marxist socialist movements. Yeah. And so both systems, whether it's monopoly capital or Marxism, socialism, they see human beings really as just interchangeable economic material units.

Exactly. Yeah, I mean, like I said, every single election is either a neo-con Zionist or. a progressive Bolshevik. Well, you know what I didn't know either that what came to the fore in the biography was that they knew in the 1800s that if you really wanted to run shit, you got to control both sides of left and right. Yep. So they understood left right dialectics, I think probably from Kabala,

way before there was such a thing as American left and right geopolitical stuff, right? So they understood you have a circle, the magic circle, and then you can just control the discourse within the circle, people aren't even allowed to ask the questions outside of the circle, right? So we can't even question the Uniparty or the Duopoly party system because that's not even allowed as a question. They had figured that out a long time ago, that you could control the two polarities,

and Meyer said he figured that out from his sons. He's like, I'll just send the liberal sons to the liberal countries and the conservative sons to the conservative countries. and they can control both sides of that dialectic. And they said that they didn't care about any specific conflict, right? So there's a war going on in Spain. There's a war going on here in Europe or France, whatever. They didn't care about the sides of the conflict.

They always had the long-term attitude and how to move the money on the basis of the conflict. And this is really how the stock market works. I think we've all seen this even with Trump in the last few years of crypto. like Trump and the administration has realized that if they say, oh, the Iran war is still on, the whole market dips, Bitcoin dips, you buy the dip, then you say there's a, there's a peace deal, Bitcoin and the crypto market goes back up, then you say the war's back on. And so you can just keep doing this. I mean, as well as the, I mean, the whole meme coins are Ponzi schemes.

Yeah. And so they figured this out a long time ago, as I'm trying to say. Yeah. I agree with you, dude. It's like crash the market by everything cheap. It's how he made his money early on with the bank of buying all the bank, the British pounds or the notes that you said. Like, oh, dude, we lost to the French knowing that we won.

Crash, burn, bang, buy them up, pennies on the dollar. Now you control the pound. And so my question to you is this. There was this whole thing about George Soros. pulling one on the Rothschilds. You remember when he basically bet against the pound and it crashed and he made all that money? Do you think that's real? Do you think he really beat the Rothschilds on that one?

Because he's like banned from Israel. That's a good question. I mean, there could be, I'll give an example. There's something similar to this that happened in the 1800s. Just to make the story quick. So there was a guy who used to work for the Rothschilds, who was a Jewish guy, Peret, a French guy, and he worked with him for a few years and figured out all their tactics, right? This is one of the most interesting chapters in the book.

This is like actual Game of Thrones level shit here. So he figures out their whole system in the 1850s. He steals a million francs, French dollars from them, goes off and links up with their number one rival in France, this guy named Achilles Fooled, F-O-U-L-D. And they get this idea to start a rival bank to the Rothschild. in France, and they call it Credit Mobiliier. And I didn't know this was this old either, but they had the idea of customer-owned stock. So anybody that took out loans from Credit Mobiliier, whether you were a baker or a head of state, you could actually get shares in the stock.

And this actually worked pretty good such that eventually Credit Mobilié was a challenger in France to the Raw Chiles. They then expanded that to other countries. they were trying to do the same thing in Italy. And this is during the period of Napoleon's nephew, Napoleon III. And so Napoleon III was funded by Credit Mobiliier. And they actually started winning and they were beating the Rothschilds in a lot of markets. And then the Rothschilds figured out that if they could go to certain heads of state that were, and buy them off,

they could get the state to prosecute Credit Mobiliier. So they finally found a head of state that could imprison the original. Perry A guy for stealing that first million dollars. Oh my God. So dirty. And then when he went to prison, get this is the crazy part. He went to prison and Credit Mobbier stock collapsed. It destroyed the whole company.

And then the Rothschild set up their version of the customer-owned stock bank, their version of it, the people's bank they called it, right? So this was when socialism was getting popular. And even though the Rothschilds would at times fund socialist, communist, communist, types of movements. Even if something came up as a rival, they would just buy it off and sink it stockwise. Well, they would sink it and then buy it off

and then create their own version of it. But the reason that they didn't win, according to the biographer, was that the Perrier guy and the fool guy, they only understood it in terms of tactics in the immediate. They didn't create offspring that would think generational. And he says that that's why they ended up losing. If they had thought about other people and their sons were daughters running it,

they might have been able to do it. But in this case, it was actually because the Rothschild had a family and religious. So bloodline and religious commitment, which is the tightest binds you could even have for any human being. Yes. That actually beat out the socialist ideology of Credit Mobilié in the long run. because if you're a socialist, if you think about it, you're probably an atheist most of the time. And so you're only probably going to live for the here and the now. And although we can criticize the Rothschild's and Talmudism, at least the elements that are there from the biblical ideology of having a family and having offspring and teaching the next generation to run your shit, that's going to win in the long run.

if you are accepting an ideology of materialism and immediacy and all that, that's why socialism can't win in the long run because you're only really committed to yourself and this vague idea of the collective. But if there's no God, if there's no afterlife, if nothing matters, why do I give a shit about the collective, right? It doesn't, I don't really care about that. Yeah, it's why like there's part of me that if you get to a certain age and you haven't had kids, you shouldn't be able to vote on certain things.

I think you're on the, that's the point. Exactly, because you don't think beyond your self. In the future. Yeah, you don't think beyond your last breath. You're just like, what makes me feel good? Because you're putting your parental instincts. It's like the guy who gets a credit card at 80, you know, and just runs up the debt, right? Exactly.

You're like, I'm going to die. Sam, think about the way you think about life with having kids that you love versus like the way Chelsea Handler thinks about her life. 100%. I mean, it's night and day difference, right? 100%. it's going to affect how you operate in the world, obviously. So same principle here. It's like, yeah, the Rothschilds are an evil family, but they at least they understood, like,

if we're going to make this plan work, like we've got to have long-term generational thinking. And that's one of the things that most people today, nobody thinks this way, nobody. Like, unless you have some kind of religious commitment. And I'm not saying, I'm not calling you out because like it's not obviously some people can have this thought process, even if they're not religious, they care about their kids. but it's foreign to most people today, especially like Gen Z, people like that who don't want to have kids and all this kind of stuff. Like, you're just basically solidifying your bloodline dying out and you're not having, you know, progeny that can run shit. I mean, it's just, it's so insane, like you said with these.

It's so insane, dude. That you can convince women to hate their offspring. That's crazy to me. The propaganda is so strong. And I've always said this. If you want to know how to live your life, watch the elites. They're telling you to get smaller houses, smaller cars, you know, your environmental footprint,

while they're living in mansions on the fucking beach, having tons of kids. Taking planes to go grab cheesecakes in France, like private planes. They're having tons of kids. I mean, it's so insane that people can't see this. Like, what is really going on? And then all the people that told you about fucking,

told you about the environment are now building data centers. All the people trying to tell you about love and respect are building fucking hotels in Gaza for Israel. I mean, it's like just what now don't listen to what they say. Watch what they do. Yeah. That's the most important fucking shit. Remember Ted Turner? Yeah.

A lot of people think Ted Turner was, you know, the money and the funding behind the Georgia Guidestones, which said, we got to keep the population below. I never knew that. I mean, we don't know. I don't know if that's confirmed. I'm just saying a lot of people have speculated that it seems he's the most likely candidate in Georgia, especially to have been behind that. But I don't know that for sure.

But whether he was or wasn't, like he was very vocal about we need to drastically reduce population. People need to stop having kids. He was a huge supporter of Green Agenda, World Wildlife Foundation, which is just a front for depopulation. meanwhile he's like the ultimate example of what you're saying he had like six kids five six kids like he's flying around like you know air force one level stuff uh everything that you're saying is exemplified by the way these people live which is night and day with what they say but also one

thing i want to bring up too just to i don't want to change subject but people probably heard of the famous british prime minister disraeli i didn't expect this book to and when i read quigley he talks about Israeli being a Rothschild operative, but I didn't expect that, no, that Rachos was actually bragged about it. They're like, yeah, he was our operative. And the way that we got into government, because you couldn't be a Jew in government in Europe in the 1800s for the most part. So they realized they would have to get the laws changed to where they could do that. But because Queen Victoria didn't like Jews, she notoriously said, I'll never have a Rothschild or a Jew in the House of Lords or House of Parliament.

lower house and upper house. So what they did was, they said, all right, we're going to have to do something big for the queen to get Nathan Rothschild on in the House of Lords. So what they did was they organized, they got Disraeli, their operative, their agent to eventually secure the Suez Canal

for the queen, for the British Empire. And once they did that, she said, okay, you can become a lord. So he got into parliament and then started pushing for all the laws, right, that would help the Rothschild family that they've been waiting for this whole time. It's unbelievable, dude. But they had to get the Suez Canal for the British Empire, and they bragged about that.

So this is almost like, you read James Bond stuff or you read Ian Fleming and you think, you know, this sounds crazy. But the real James Bond stuff is bankers shit. That's what's so crazy. It's like the real world is this stuff, but it's not what you think. It's bankers and it's giant loans to the, to the Vatican. and just getting people in debt. That's the real espionage world.

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There's a lot of talk. We've had, you know, recently at Melchion talking about the OSS and that role. in in in Nazi Germany all that stuff to bringing over that where would you like to begin well so I did a a deep dive on this book called the old boys which is written by a guy named Burton hers who was in the council of foreign relations so he's in the CFR and this is just a history of the origins of the American deep state you could say the CIA the OSS and again like Like what we don't think is that we think of intelligence people or the CIA being like, oh, they're protecting America from democracy. I know you've had John Kriaku on and I had him on the other day.

And then I was on his podcast as well. And we just kind of, I went, I went through all of these questions. And I'm like, let me just ask you like, do you think that, you know, intelligence operatives are really just working for like private bureaucratic banking and corporate interests? Yes, absolutely. Right. Basically every question I ask, he's like, yeah, that's, that's. it. That's it. That's it. Every conspiracy query I had all my favorite pet theories, I asked him all of these questions. And he's like, yeah, of course, it's all that. It's all that. So again, the conspiracy

theorists are right as usual. But I didn't expect this mainline book to say you go back to World War 1 and Woodrow Wilson, this is when we get the Federal Reserve. This is when we get, again, that Rothschild banking model for the U.S. The book admits that, yeah, Woodrow, Wilson had a handler named Colonel Edwin Mandel House and Mandel House was working at the behest of the British banking elites. I wonder who that is. That's obviously the Rothschilds.

To get eventually a Keynesian model of economics for America in terms of their banking structure with a private, central Federal Reserve Bank. And that's exactly what Keynesianism

and Fabian socialism is. For the Fabian Socialist, John Maynard Keynesian Keynes is their like chief, sainted, you know, greatest economist, even though Keynes himself wasn't a member of the Fabian society. His economic principles are what they prefer, what they promote. And so when we get the Federal Reserve at the behest of these banking elites, it is literally that Fabian socialist model. Again, that's not antithetical to Zionism or whatever because it's the same family behind that. In fact, there's an entire chapter in the Rothschild biography about how adamant they were in terms of obtaining the land of Israel

over many decades for the purpose of setting up a future Jewish state. Now, to be very precise, it's not just the Rothschilds behind this because originally it was the three original founders of Zionism you have Moses Hess, Theodore Herzl and Heim Weitzman. They all were political Zionist. Moses Hess is the first ideologue. He's known for creating the idea of utopian socialism. So even though Karl Marx was a Marxist socialist, Moses Hess is actually the creator of utopian Marxist socialism because Marx wasn't necessarily utopian.

He thought maybe it could win in the end, but also it might not. There's no way to know. But Moses Hess, who was a rabbi, thought that it would. And his difference with Marx and others was that he thought, no, it will be a Jewish-centric global socialist order out of Jerusalem. And he says, we'll use the Masonic Lodge. He says it in the book.

He says, we'll use the Masonic Lodges. And there's this great section where he says, I've been talking to the Rothschild brothers and I might win them over. I think they're on our side. This is in the 1860s. Okay, so nobody even knew what Zionism was in the 1860s, but they were already planning this trying to get the Rothschilds on board because they had so much money. and initially

Edmund Rauchel, who was the one that was most interested in this project, he wasn't interested in political Zionism. He thought it's not good for our family. If you get too political openly, it's not popular right now. So what he did was, I'm going to buy a bunch of sections of land

throughout Palestine. And it was called the Palestine project, right? So these people act like, there's no such thing as Palestine. Yeah, it's so hilarious. Great point, dude. self-named a Palestine project. What are you talking about?

I mean, great point, dude. Let me ask you something. I'm sorry to cut you off because you're cooking with gas, but. So, you know, I've had guests on that talk about Israel and then the greater Israel project. And it's something I want to ask you because you brought up to Talamode many times. There are those who believe those, and I'm one of them, that, and I'm fine. If you say I'm wrong, I'm open-minded, keep my head on a swivel. that the Greater Israel Project is basically ancient Babylon.

If you study the maps, they look exactly alike. And like, you know, that Israel is kind of the beginning of the storming the beach and then moving out to all that, you know, ancient Babylon went higher to the north than the Greater Israel Project. But it's pretty much the same thing. And when you get into the Talmud, and I've tried to look this up, I've been told this before, but I can't find. where it says it, so I could be wrong, but I remember seeing it, is that the, it's called

the Babylonian oral history of the rabbis. That's what the Ptolema is called. Am I wrong on that? No, that's what it is. It's when the Jews were in captivity. Yes. Babylon, at least the claim is that what's in the Talmud is the oral traditions, as well as the written texts and other written traditions from that period. That's when it supposedly dates from. Okay. So does this kind of get beyond Judaism in my humble opinion? Like I bought the Torah because I had a guest on tell me like it's the blueprint of how the, and he's a Christian, but he's like the Torah is the blueprint of how the universe operates.

I'm not trying to get into a religious argument, but is the Torah different than the Ptolemud? And then is, and the Ptolemaud and the Zohar? Like there's some crazy shit in there. Like, what is your thoughts on that? Yeah, they're all different. So basically the Torah is the first five.

books of Moses. That's the religion of the Hebrew people when they're coming out of Egypt, right? And it becomes codified in these books. And from the Christian perspective, we think that that was proto-Christianity. So we don't believe that Christianity is the same thing as or nor that it comes out of rabbinic Judaism. So what you're talking about with the Talmud is known as rabbinic Judaism. And that's something that forms over time. First of all, when the Jews are Babylonian captivity. This is like 586 BC. They go into Babylonian captivity. The idea from their perspective is that they recorded and kept all of these traditions of the rabbis, some written, some oral. So it's basically the Bible plus a bunch of all of this

other stuff that, from the Jewish perspective, from the rabbinic perspective, you don't start with Torah. Everything is read through the lens of the Talmud, right? So you can't just go to Torah and try to figure it out. You have to read it through the oral tradition of the rabbis that's also recorded in the Babylonian Talmud. But the Talmud doesn't become codified until the 4th, 5th, and 6th centuries post-Christianity, post-Christ. And many rabbis and many Jewish scholars today will admit, I got a whole shelf of it over there, they admit that really the Talmud itself and the rabbinic tradition formulates itself in opposition to early Christianity, right? So they formed their Bible, which doesn't have some of the

books that like the Catholic and Orthodox Bible has. They codified the rabbinic traditions in those centuries, partly to set themselves off against the rise of Christianity. So that's why rabbinic theology has always had this innate hatred and disdain for Christianity, because it formulated literally out of opposing Christianity. So for us as Orthodox Christians, we think that real Old Testament Hebrew religion is proto-Christianity. It's not rabbinic stuff. In fact, if you read the book of Jeremiah,

for example, Jeremiah during the Babylon and captivity, he's being persecuted, much like Christ is persecuted. Jesus has parallels with the way that he talks about the Pharisees versus the way Jeremiah talks about the scribes and the lawyers. he says they pervert the text with their oral traditions. Jesus, when he's debating with the Pharisees, says the exact same thing in Matthew 23, that the Pharisees, that's the rabbinic tradition of that time. They're in opposition to what he says because Jesus' message wasn't immediate political success

to overthrow the Romans. And the Jews wanted the message of, no, I want to hear how do we overthrow these Romans and enslave these dumb goy and rule the world. So they wanted a temporal wealth power message that they thought they were promised. That's not what Jesus said in his first Advent. So that's partly why they rejected him. And that they were offended that he opened the covenant up to the Gentiles. They thought all those Old Testament passages meant,

no, the Gentiles will be subject to us by a king who will put them under his foot. Jesus saying, no, the Gentiles will subject themselves when they repent and come into the church. That's the Christian understanding of the Old Testament. So your question about the Babylon, about the land, they look at the promises to Abraham in Genesis 12, 15, 17, 22 that he would be given this land. And originally, in the Christian perspective, I'll make this quick. No, I'm loving it. So if you go back to Genesis, there's a story of Melchizedek, this priest who's not a Jew, he's a Gentile priest to God in this land called Salem. Later on in the Psalms, David identifies this land of Salem as Jerusalem.

So before the Canaanites had taken the land, and that's who the Jews take the land from, it was previously some group of righteous people that were priests to the one true God that had the land at some point taken from them, the Canaanites, the Jews at that point with Joshua and David and saturn in the Old Testament, they are told to retake that land from the Canaanites because it was originally the possession of the righteous. So they retake that land.

And according to Romans 4 and all the history of the church, whether it's Armenian Orthodox or whether it's Orthodox or Catholic, everybody interprets this to mean that land was a type, a symbol of the gospel conquering the rest of the world in a spiritual way, not physical armies and conquest,

but the preaching of the gospel converting people to Christ. So once that, once Christ came, the land promises are fulfilled. The Jews, because they don't reject, they don't believe in Christ, they still think those land promises are promised to them. So in that sense, yeah, I think that they see all of that as theirs due to that inheritance. I'm sure they probably want more. They don't just want, they want the whole world, dude. The world is mine, right? The world's not enough, right? James Bond stuff. So that's why they have the idea that it's not just Oded Yunnan and Greater Israel Project. It's that, but also the rest of the world.

So the righteous have the land, the Canaanites come in, they take the land over, and then the Jews take the land from them. Yeah, God tells David and Joshua to take back that land because the Canaanites were wicked. They were doing all kinds of butt stuff and everything to do with like a lot of butt stuff, a lot of fluids, bodily fluids, stuff, human sacrifice, all of that. So they're supposed to get rid of that. But they don't

because they, as we know from the Old Testament, they fall prey to the exact same things. They have this tendency, as Jeremiah says, to also practice these things. So when you mention things like the Zohar and that kind of, that's the mystical side of Judaism that

supposedly traces back to these periods. Nobody can actually prove or we don't actually know. I mean, this could have been invented by a medieval rabbi, right? Especially stuff from the Zohar. That's like medieval, Judaic, Kabbalistic stuff. A lot of it is. So these magical esoteric practices are blends of ancient pagan religion,

Babylonian religion, Neoplatonism, ritual magic. I mean, you've got like treatises and Kabbalists on how to make magic, ritual magic medallions. I mean, there's nothing like that in the Bible. So these are importations. from a lot of different religious traditions exactly. They're not going to come out and say, yeah, we do human sacrifice.

100%. But there are oral traditions that we know from the Bible, where Jeremiah says, you guys have fallen into sacrificing your children to Molek. And so, yes, that's why there is this confusion, I think, about what Talmudic religion actually is. Can I ask you briefly? What do you say, I mean, the defense, I always hear when I pick out problematic passages in the Talmud is that it's, you know,

it's this dialogue between the rabbis and that it was a lot of it was later disputed and just, what would you say, even, even, I mean, they go to go so far according to the defenses I hear to even disavow those passages and later like codification of Jewish law. What do you say to that response? Well, people think of Judaism as something like Christianity, where it has like these dogmas. It's not like that. And there have been times when certain famous Jewish theologians like Maimonides,

like he tried one time to set out like the basic principles of what you have to believe to be a Jew. But even that didn't really catch on because there's tons of atheist Jews. There's tons of reform Jews who were basically atheistic, that whole movement coming out of people like Spinoza. And I've had a lot of debates with various Jewish people of different flavors. I had a debate one time with a, he was a part of Habad, right?

And he was like out on the street, like doing stuff. And we got in this street debate one time, as some years ago. And he made the point that in their tradition, I think he was telling me through about this. He's like, in our tradition, we don't like find the one principle that we're all supposed to follow. In Judaism, you go to your,

if you have a question, you go to your rabbi. that's it you don't go to another rabbi to check that guy so the religion is not actually codified around objective principles that everybody's bound by right like in in orthodox christianity we have the nicene creed everybody has to follow the creed but there's not that in judaism because it's there's this weird flexibility that you can kind of make it what you want within the scope of judaism as long as you're quote a jew Yeah. So there's a strength and a weakness in that, right? I mean, in other words, there's a strength in it in that that that's why you have people who have a Jewish ideology, which a lot of times it's just their dissent. But at other times it's a religion. And some people don't know, well, is this an ethnic thing or is it a religion? Well, it's neither and it's both because it has this sort of flexibility. 100%. It's like how many these atheists are pro-Israel, pro-Zionism?

You're like, but you don't believe in God. But you're pro Zionist. How is that, how does that mental gymnastics work? Well, that's just a, I think Hoffman, I think you guys had Hoffman on. Hoffman calls it a religion of self-worship. Yes, dude. Yes. All right.

So we were going to get into, we're going to get into, I listen, I think it's all Babylonian, dude. That's what I've thought from the beginning. It's like when you bring up, you know, why do they? hey Christ, I've said this before, because Christ stops sacrifice. Like he's like, stop sacrificing you piece of shit. He didn't say that, but, you know, stop sacrificing. Well, he did say. He basically did say that, yeah.

Yeah, but he didn't call them a piece of shit. That would be a standard. He called a brood of vipers and snakes and demons, so it might as well be. Close enough, close enough. And they get mad at that. They're really angry at that. And I've been saying, I said this on Rogan years ago, the old gods want to come out and play. tired of sitting in the back.

They want to be worshipped. They want to be, they want sacrifice, dude. And this is why Christianity is so hated right now is that the power structure is Babylonian. You know, it bleeds into other things, you know, like why is there a black cube in Mecca? You know, it's like bleeds into all this other shit. And they want sacrifice. and Jesus and his teachings are like, no, no, we're not doing that, dude. It's like no more.

That's not how you do it. And they freaking hate that shit. And when Netanyahu is like, the Jews love, you know, again, like, we're very delicate on how we say this because, you know, there's still buzzwords that get people all upset. But when Nandyahu is like, you know, Israel loves the Christian, yeah, as they're bombing Christian churches, it's like insanity to me. You know, we just put on an episode that's just going to be audio. It goes very hard.

And, you know, and people are going to get fucking angry. Well, the people that listen won't get angry, but there's people that don't listen that will get fucking angry. And, like, for me, it's just like, like, right now at the comedy store, there's multiple comedians still doing Catholic pedophile jokes with zero repercussion. none flaunting it like they're fucking saying

something deep and heavy and can you believe I said that and it's just acceptable shit it's just acceptable shit and my whole opinion on everything is and I'll defend this to the day I die is I don't believe in protected classes and I don't believe

you're ever going to fix anything if you bring your fucking feelings man if you bring your feelings into it you're never going to fix it Ever. Ever. And it's because nice people just want to live their life, raise their families,

some people raise their dogs, whatever, raise their family, set the kids up for the future. Evil never stops. It's unfucking relenting. And it's like you just said, and they pass it on to their traumatized kids who play fucking.

ball with everything. What's the subject that you see, people are going to get mad at the thing you did? What was that subject matter? Ego's much harder on the Jays. Oh. Much harder.

Very deep on it, dude. And, you know, I think we're getting to a point where that's not as taboo, but with certain circles, that is taboo still. And because you're dealing with generational trauma and you're dealing with a power structure. and I don't blame anybody. It's like when people in California are asking for reparations.

And it's one guy's like, if you did it, if you did it with inflation, it'd be $50 million today. I'm like, if I was you, I would shoot for the stars too. I would just yell out a number that's so fucking insane that they'll come back to $20 million because you just said $500 million. Like, do, why wouldn't you? I would love it if you said something about Armenians and I could call you a bigot. Mm-hmm. That would be great. That would be the greatest thing ever.

I would never, ever get any criticism ever and actually to have to take a look at my behaviors and my actions. I could just call you a bigot and just move on. It's because it's just bigotry. And it's just like, when I hear people go, people hate us because we're successful. It reminds me of Carlos Mencia when he was getting called a joke thief. And he's like, people just hate me because I'm successful.

It's like, that's not true at all, dude, at all. I mean, Asians are crushing it. And everyone loves Asians. I mean, they're just absolutely crushing it. Nobody's like, oh, these fucking Asians, fucking, you know, nobody's saying it. It's just like, what are your actions and what are your behaviors? Yeah. And people have the right to call you out because we've been, I mean, white people have been curbstom so badly.

Yeah. That they have sympathetic, they have suicidal empathy. They literally vote against their own best interest in hopes of not being called a bigot. Yeah. Remember Netanyahu when he was on, he got caught on cameras saying, I've been reading this Strauss book on how we've been at war with Rome forever. And he's like, I'm not going to lose to Rome again. He's referring to Rome destroying the temple in 70 AD.

And what he meant by that was he sees the West and Christianity as Rome and Edom. 100%. And he's like, that's why we're going to do everything we can to try to ensure that we will never lose that battle again. And so that's the attitude here. And again, it's not antithetical to what you're reading in the Rothschilds because that's what's in the town. And that's what Meyer-Ramshal Rothschild was using as his sort of playbook. It's like a playbook, right, to run shit. That's what I'm trying to say.

And it's not, by the way, it's not all just, again, this might make some of your audience mad. But, I mean, I think it's true. By the way, there's a bunch of rabbis that were in video clips saying, Islam is the broom of Judaism. That doesn't mean that they have to like it or they agree with every principle of it, but they don't mind Islam sweeping through Europe and coming into the West because that's a preparation in their mindset for eventually everybody accepting a form of Noahitism. In fact, some of the rabbis even say that Islamists kind of a versionish of a version of Noahidism, even though Muhammad himself went to war against Jews. They don't even care about that.

they just see that it's a powerful weapon against Christian Western civilization. They're very adamant about that. They brag about that. And then you have, for example, when Edmund Durachal was buying all of the land in Israel, nobody ever talks about who he bought it from. Who was selling it to him? That guy's just as much a traitor. It was the Sultan.

It was the Turkish Sultan who owned and controlled Palestine in 1800s. 100%. And so you've got these Islamic leader. who, by the way, I was watching a video on Al Jazeera, it was a great documentary video explaining the Rothschild's role in the founding of Israel. They never mentioned that he was buying the land from the frickin Turkish Sultan, which means that your Islamic leaders were also selling you out, dummies. So it's like, do you not see the problem here?

It's like both of these things, yeah, at times they'll have a battle, but that doesn't mean that they don't have a shared enemy, which is Western civilization that they have to take down. they believe before their Moshech, their version of the Messiah comes. Yep. I'm, dude, I couldn't agree more, dude. It's, it's absolutely like, it's the great replacement theory. It's like who's behind that.

I mean. Did you know Calergy? I got his book. You know, you talk about the Calergy plan, right? He wrote it in a book. Quigley says the Royal Elite, the Royal Society elites adopted the Calergy plan. It's clear as day. And Calergy says, we'll destroy.

Europe make everybody blend into a giant tower of babble blob and he says big z will uh win in the end calergy says that it's crazy dude it's what's crazy is that people will admit it they write it in the books and if you cite the books you're bad because you cited it even though they brag about it that's the craziest part let's get into some mk ultra shit yeah man i've been covering that heavy lately let's hear what you got because i think it's excuse me so relevant right now it's insane well the first thing that you know i guess you saw these like recent hearings and you know tom o'neill i didn't he was actually at these hearings did you see that i didn't realize that he was there that was pretty crazy he's interesting guy because i asked him if it's still going on

today and he's he didn't want to comment on it because he's super progressive and at the time joe bide was in and he didn't want to go there so i found that very suspect yeah i mean I mean, it seems like with a lot of, especially if you're going to be a published author and you're going to have your books in all the bookstores, you've got to kind of tow the line. So I would imagine Tom O'Neill, yeah, I didn't want to probably doesn't want to piss off, you know, publishers and stuff like that. And I'm familiar with his arguments. And I think he did good work in showing that definitely with Manson, there was kind of obvious CIA connections there. But also, you know, the counterculture Laurel Canyon stuff, I think the first time I came on. Temple Hat was like eight seven eight years ago with uh i forget that girl's name that stand

up and we were talking about laurel canyon how that was like a big CIA you know counterculture creation and that's kind of what tom o'neill's book in indirectly also backs up is that a lot of that stuff was you know military CIA brats that become the pop culture figures by design but have you seen that clip of tim larry where he's you can find on youtube where he's like, yeah, we created the whole 60s counterculture. That was all the CIA giving you all the LSD by design. You should watch that clever. Just splice it in here.

It's so crazy. He just admits it. Just type in Timothy Leary's CIA counterculture. He just admits. He's like, yeah, we did that. Sure. All that. Well, Operation Long Leash, they were, it was all CIA funded.

Tell me about Long Leash. I'm not familiar with that one. Longleash is where the CIA wanted to make capitalism C and Western belief system. seem more open-minded to government criticism than communism. So they funded all the counterculture shit. All the great artists, you know, like Norm Chomsky is one of them. And I love- Like the Congress for Cultural Freedom, the CCF, that was the CIA Arts funding project.

Yeah. Yeah. That's a long, it's called Operation Long Leash. Okay. And they funded all of it. The counterculture, they funded the feminist movement. Yes. You know, like what's her, you know, Martin Luther King.

by all accounts could have been very much a P. Diddy like and you push him forward because he's corrupted and controllable. And then when he starts talking about it's social economic. A total credit for sponsoring it. Yeah, you want to play that, Johnny? That's the clip, yeah. Let me just pull up a share here. It is the second.

It's interesting. This is labeled a MK Ultra reunion party. I don't know if that's what they called it formally. But here it is. All right. initiating the entire conscious a total credit for sponsoring and initiating the entire consciousness movement counterculture events of the 1960s dr timothy leary the 1960s johnny apple seed of lsd on a pb s interview timothy leary let us hair down and admitted that he was carrying on satanist alester crawley's work and that the 1960s is when the plan began to come to fruition i've been an admirer of alister crowley i think

that I'm carrying on much of the work that he started over 100 years ago. And I think the 60s themselves, you know, Crowley said he was in favor of finding your own self and do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law under love. It was a very powerful statement. I'm sorry he isn't around now to appreciate the glories that he started. Now, Satan guided Crowley, Crowley declared that his writings were to be, quote, circulated among the young, end quote. Crowley predicted that America would pick up, quote, a few axioms on which a working majority can agree, a few dogmas which it could rally. Do what thou well, of course, became do your own thing.

And if it feels good, due to the 1960s, Timothy Lerry came up with a few of his own. He looked out at that crowd and he said, turn on, tune in, and drop out. Turn on, tune in, and drop out. We're turned on, and we're tuned in, and we're very dropped out. Turn on, tune in, and drop out. Timothy Leary claimed that he came to the realization that he was to usher in Crowley's new age when he was using Crowley's tarot cards. Leary asked the question, who am I and what is my destiny? Lerry claims that he then cut to the ace of disc, Robert Anton Wilson declared,

this shows a large disc bearing the Greek letters to Megathurion, the Great Beast. Lurie interpreted this to mean that he is Crowley reborn and as supposed to complete the work Crowley began. Our undercover agents in Los Angeles were very cool about, and yet they did more in a very laid-back way. And it's never been as public as some of the other, you know, the buses running around the country. Yeah. Hopefully it was. Oh. After we were fired from Harvard, that fall, every major magazine came out with a cover story insideing bus.

Yeah. There were three different stories in Playboy. So that was, yeah, it was the firing from a Harvard plus, the fact that Henry Luce was somewhere always behind the scenes doing certain things. Plus so many people have been involved in Los Angeles. Yeah, Tim was more responsible than anybody. Yeah, calculated goal of FF to cause that kind of spreading? Yeah.

Well, I want to point out, though, that the picture, we are here and now study pictures more than they do long columns. The particular picture of this article in time magazine attacking our research had a scientific instrument called the experiential typewriter with all these dolls actually filled with socks but that's all right. Had an incredibly beautiful young woman sitting taking the test and had standing bus behind her. Alan Watts, a beautiful female Hindu guru named Geith. Anyway I think yeah that's probably a good start Johnny, will you send me that link, please?

Yeah, of course. Holy shit. Did you got, you might have had him on, Sam. I can't remember. Have you had a Dr. Richard Spence on? I believe so. Yeah, I think you have because he had this really good book called Secret Agent 666. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have had him on.

Crowley being a spy. And then that's relevant because at the end of the book, he talks about Crowley used to party all the time with Aldous Huxley. And he theorizes that. Crowley is actually the basis for where Huxley got the idea for the British version of MK Ultra before MKLtra in America. Because Crowley wrote these books called Drug Diaries, which was his sort of accounts of his experiences. And then other people's accounts of like what kind of entities and, you know,

what they would experience doing ritual magic when their own drugs, all that kind of stuff. So MK Ultra, there's a really good case to be made from Dr. Spence, I think, that it actually comes out of like Crowley stuff itself. but that's not the only time Timothy Leary. I've read a bunch of Timothy Leary stuff. He actually said all the time that he was like the reincarnation of Crowley, which is crazy. He wrote the forward to John C. Lilly's biography. He's the dolphin freak that we've talked about, you know, before.

He's the guy that was doing brain chips and monkeys and giving LSD to dolphins. And he had like a fetish for dolphins. He wrote the introduction. No, he was trying to get them to calm down, dude. He was trying to get them to calm down. He was just trying to give him a little bit of a little bit of a little bit. leaf. Literally, dude.

He had chicks trying to hook up with these dolphins. Yeah. He wrote the, uh, Leary wrote the intro to the biography,

autobiography, and he says, in the modern West, there are pioneers of this new age of exploration. Alistra Kroley, Gurghiff, Huxley,

Alan Watts, Ram Dass. And he says, nobody, nobody symbolizes this better than, John C. Lilly, the dolphin freak. So he's literally telling you like the new age of cybernetic transhumanist man.

That's what he says, the end of the introduction. He says this new age is pioneered by guys like John C. Lilly who figured out how to put the microchips in the brains of the monkeys and the dolphins. So in other words, when you're asking Tom O'Neill about did they continue this on, Well, if you go back to the original research on M.K. Ultra, the first book that was written exposing it that I'm aware of is this excellent book called Operation Mind Control by Walter Bower. We just did a whole review of this. I did this book like 10 years ago, but we did another version of it. He wrote this in 1978. We just did this on my channel a couple days ago. And the last chapter is about what happened to MKLTRA when supposedly they shut it down. They shut it down supposedly after the church inquiries, Senator. church and the house inquiries about mk ultra they didn't shut it down they just moved it to another

base and renamed it that's what they always do so yeah they shut down mk ultra but then they just moved it to fort duch and they called it mk search and mk delta so this is where we get the idea of like delta programming and all that kind of stuff and the whole last chapter is about how it's just transhumanism he wrote this in 1978 saying that all they're doing is figuring out how to modify humans and control humans and the ultimate way to do that isn't drugs I mean drugs play a huge role in terms of LSD and all that but the

ultimate goal is to make man a cyborg and to get a brain chip or a nanotech or whatever in the in people's brains so that the whole biometric Terminator SkyNet world could be controlled

that's the whole last chapter in 1978 hey Jannie have did the MKLter did it is there any became the gate program or are they connected in any way? Would you know how to say about that? So we did a whole episode of Sam Hyde show on this. I wrote for that one because I was in the gay program when I was out in San Diego. My dad was in the Navy.

So I grew up in San Diego. And that was when Gate was fairly new. I think existed before that in the 1980s. But a lot of what people are saying on TikTok and that's a bunch of bullshit. So in one sense, yes, the gate program was there to like, find future leaders and to train and kind of indoctrinate and groom kids that could be agents of change, right? Like basically like trying to find like a future Obama or something like that. Candace Owens. They say Candace and Charlie Kirk were in it. So something like that, right?

I remember Candice saying that and I mean, I'm sure Charlie probably was. But what I'm saying is I don't think or recall anything to do with like they put me in a hypnotic state and in a tank. And it wasn't anything like that. There was a lot of tests. A lot of. of IQ tests and a lot of indoctrination into like new agey shit like I remember in sixth grade I had to do a paper on like how all the world religions are the same they would they would assign that kind of stuff so it's basically just spotting like high IQ talented kids and then try to groom them I don't think it was like there could have been somewhere other types of programs like people talk about montoc where they were kind of bringing in kids and that's what stranger things is based on I'm sure they do

that kind of stuff monarch was experimenting on because john see a lily says it was books, he would give little kids LSD to try to reprogram them. So they did do this kind of stuff. But I don't think Gate was openly that because it's so widespread. It was all over the whole country. I think it was just looking for recruiting intelligent kids to be certain things in government in the future, basically just to push United Nations type ideas. But that all of that type of research that they do on gifted kids does get used by the CIA and these kind of. of entities for these overall sort of transhumanist projects. So it's not as sexy as TikTok was making it, but it's adjacent to that kind of stuff.

That's my assessment of it. Johnny was in the gate program too. I wasn't. Who? Johnny? Johnny Woodward. Johnny's a gator. Johnny's a gator.

My experience was exactly the same. When I brought this up, everybody. Johnny got molested. Johnny was in the gay program. The gay program. Yeah. Yeah. also the gay program but no my experience was exactly i mean i remember the i don't have a great

memory of it i remember all the shapes they would show you and the weird pests and stuff and they made you listen to like sounds on like a headphone and yeah yeah yeah and yeah and that's that's really the extent of it that i recall i mean it wasn't like you said it wasn't any now it may it may well be that once they found people you know who had some kind of remarkable psychic gifts or something that they got, you know, taken elsewhere. But I certainly did not experience that. Yeah. I mean, just absolute insanity, dude. It's everything is faking gay. Like, it's just a fake fucking projection, a demonic Babylonian projection on God's reality. And it is so Fubbard, so beyond people can't even begin to understand how much of it's a lie.

It's all a lie. I mean, all this stuff coming out about gangster rap being completely contrived, made up, the feminist movement completely made up. I believe OnlyFans is a Mossad or CIA fucking front. This new thing about the Patriot front and everyone's, all my smart friends are like, it's real, it's a real movement. I know, man, that's bugging me too because I'm like, Don't you guys remember Charlottesville?

They did the exact same, like, LARPing stuff. And remember it came out a few months ago that remember the guys with the Tiki Torches? It was literally gay theater kids with the Tiki Torches in the picture. Yeah. Admitted.

They just want so badly to believe in something. Right. That they'll push all the data out. And they'll be like, no. This is, this time it's real. Finally, we have an idea. Everybody. then what is the narrative around the because I've just seen the images and then that that what the

bus everybody everybody's debating whether they're feds or whether they're like legit so some people really think that's like a legit national what I have friends of mine that I love that are just like no dude there are there and then then they go listen if it was a fraud a fake front why did they attack his his room and spray it with bear spray you don't know if that's real I know that's what I'm saying yeah why are you sitting there trying to to convince yourself that these lying liars are telling you the truth. And like, I don't know what's going out to Tyler Robinson

thing, but I just know history tells me this isn't real. I mean, it's literally the exact same point for point talking point of the M.K. A Martin Luther King assassination. It's the exact same thing. Guy was convicted in court.

Now we're on, then later on, the fucking MKL Martin Luther King family sues the government and the government's found guilty of being behind the assassination. Like, what are we doing here? This is why we're never, ever going to fix anything because you keep bringing your fucking feelings into shit.

You're more, you just want to be right, not do right. And admit that maybe your side is up to no good too. You know what? It's funny. You said that because I was looking at Twitter this morning and I was watching everybody arguing about, you know, Patriot Front and Charlie Kirk and this and that. And I was like, and you read the comments. And my very first thought is,

exactly what you just said that nobody's actually arguing from a position of like facts and history everybody's responses are purely emotion purely emotive they're just arguing what they feel they want to be the case everybody is arguing what they want to be the case we have to submit to what actually is the case as best as we can figure it out that's what everybody's problem is on twitter especially yeah it's crazy to me dude it's fucking nuts dude well jay i know you had a lot more to talk about, but my God, this has been a fucking insanely awesome episode. Thank you, dude. Appreciate it.

By the way, when do you think this one will come out? Because I want to push that Tucker episode. Do you think it'll be pretty soon or in a little while? It will be Wednesday. Okay, so if you guys see this by Wednesday, then my Tucker episode's already out. So go and check that out because that episode was wild. And I'm not just saying that because it was Tucker. like I went in there thinking that we were going to talk about like geopolitics and

Charlie Kirk and this. So I had like crammed homework studied for that. And we got in there and he was like, no, I don't want to talk about that. I'm tired of all that. He didn't want to talk about any of that. That's cool. And he was like, I want to talk about transhumanism. Let's talk about Crowley.

Let's talk about the occult. So we went like crazy with that stuff, which is fine with me. I just just, and I think they don't, they don't want the guests knowing because they want it to be fresh. So I had no idea what we're going to talk about. just assumed. And then it was like, oh, like satanic cult, Luciferian, Transhumanist Crowley. So we went for two hours on that. I think it will vibe very well with this episode as well. What was your radar on him? You know, your personal impression. What do you think?

So I didn't, I had no idea even to know what to expect the whole day. Like I didn't know if we're going to be at a studio for one hour or we'd be there. So basically you spend the day with him. So you go there and you have breakfast with Tucker. You talk about. everything he gets to know you. Are they shooting that, Jay? You film, no. Sometimes I think they might, but this one they didn't. Then they film for two and a half hours,

and then you just hang out and talk to him for the rest of the day at that. He's like a, it looks like a cabin, but it's actually like a barn studio. And it's up there where like Stephen King area of Maine, it's crazy. And so for like two hours, we sat there just talking over breakfast about, media and geopolitics

conspiracy again making me think that's what we're going to talk about and then and my vibe was that first of all he knows way more than he lets on like when he's on the show he's always asking questions

there was no topic in terms of like geopolitics and espionage type stuff which is what I assumed he was going to like he there was no topic I brought up he didn't know about the only thing he didn't know about was like the Vatican espionage angle So we talked about all that for forever. And then the interview, he's like, I want to talk about Orthodox Christianity,

demons, cults, transhumanism, Satanism, luciferianism. So we did that. And then the next two or three hours hanging out with him is just all the same stuff. So my read on it was that, no, I think Tucker's 100% sincere. And I'm not just saying that because I was on the show. Like, I don't think he's, I don't agree with every point.

Like I have, I disagree with him about. Bitcoin and I disagree with some of him, his points about aliens and I'm not pro Islam. He tends to kind of be open to Islam. So, but we talked about all that. So he's very, uh, okay with people disagreeing and, you know, I don't think he, I didn't get the impression that anything that he believes is insincere because he'll, he'll flat out tell you, like, yeah, I don't like so and so. I think it's full of shit.

I believe this is true. I think this is full of shit. Like there was no point where if he, I felt like he was trying to like, soften. his views on anything, just super upfront. And I usually think if people are super upfront about their views, they're probably telling the truth. Yeah, dude. I mean, listen,

it's like anything. It's like people can present everything, and if it lines up with you, listen to it. And the mint, they fake the funk on a nasty dunk, then you could start questioning everything. Yeah. That's it. It's just his origin story so strange.

The way they could, how often does a... No, he talked about that quite a A network desperate for ratings cut loose their most valuable property. You know what I mean? It's just such a bizarre. I think that's all true because I was I was on the last episode of his Fox show. I was on that episode. No shit.

Wow. Yeah. And I made the joke to him. I was like, I'm sorry I got you fired, dude. What do you mean? I was like, I was the Clouse Schwab on that last episode. He said, oh, that's right. I forgot that was you.

But I didn't really get him fired. Of course. But that's funny. So if you remember, he was like going to have. Trump on and he was pro-Trump at that time. Right. And he said that that's a big part of it. Like it had to do with, you know, what Rupert Murdoch, people like that who didn't like

Trump versus his period of being pro-Trump. He said that was enough. But he said it wasn't just that. It was a lot of other subjects that they were covering that, you know, were not amenable to advertisers on Fox, you know, big pharma type stuff. So it was a whole combination of things, which I think is plausible. But I mean, you know, Fox has had a history of doing that with like people that. True.

Yeah. CNN too. Remember, CNN fired Lou Dobbs. He was head at the top show, but Lou Dobbs was like against open borders and they fired him. So I think there's a lot of times people will, they will make those moves over ideology. But listen, again, all you got to wait for him to do is say something that's obviously a lie. and then the credibility starts to go. And that's usually because there's a call in and they're activated.

And they have to run that into the ground because they, if, if they are controlled, they are there because they were placed there. And it's like some people are super, like, it's like when, you know, when you go with Alex Stein, they're like, oh, he's in like, a, fucking, a reality television. Yeah. because he wanted to be an entertainer. And then he got into this, and this is why he's so entertaining

because he wanted to be an entertainer. It's not crazy to me that someone could be one thing and then realize that's not working out and realize he's really great at this thing. And that's why he flourishes, and the rest of you guys are struggling. Because this is what he does. He's a great entertainer.

He's a super great entertainer. So it's like this notion that because somebody did something, like I'm in sense. And the only reason, I haven't acted in forever. I got a movie getting made. I'm going to do one or two lines in it because I don't want to act. But the only reason I'm still in SAG is because I don't want anyone to have Sam Tripoli. So I keep my name.

I keep paying it every year. You're an agent because you were in that Britney Spears video. That proves you're a fake. Remember that? Dude, how did he get that? How did he get that role? It's like, dude, my girlfriend is the producer and they base it off a fucking comedy sketch, created right but you're one of the few people who's actually looked up brittany's skirt

i saw where babies come from and then so the only way you could do that is if you were an operative that's the only way yeah i got the call dude i'm like dude just go in on it just go in on you sold out just to see brittany's cooch dude that's all you sold out for yeah dude i'm like take my soul dude i just need to see the hole my soul for a hole sam has a picture perfect memory dude that's why good i could pick that vagina of a fucking police lineup if i had to you know all right All right, Jay. Great, great job. As always, one of your best episodes yet, and they're all great. It was fucking fire, dude. Hey, uh, before you guys go, um, Sam, I'd like to get you back on my channel.

Um, how dare you? Yes, of course. I'll show you, if I show you some Brittany Cooch, will you come on? Oh, done. Done, dude. Done. You don't even need to show me the Brittany Cooch. I would just love to come on. Also, uh, my wife wants to do a conspiracy trivia, trivia game podcast with, you three guys if you're down to do it on her channel she's like johnny will win johnny he's got really good at coming out with like these trivia because she did isaac wyshub they came on and they did like a conspiracy trivia and uh it was a lot of fun so if you guys are interested in that she'd like to have you on yeah yeah yeah that sounds awesome all right man should i set that out with

mark no no no just see me send up with us i mean i'm a fucking grown-ass man dude well you sometimes you say talk to mark i don't know like that's just tin foil yeah because he keeps Oh, just 10. Okay, okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay, cool. Well, thank you guys so much.

A lot of fun. Anytime all the time, dude. Appreciate you coming on. Great. All right. Let's break down the episode. Great job, dude. Damn!

That was fire, dude. That was a fire episode. I'm mad. I will never be the supercomputer that Jay Dyer is. Oh, no. Yeah, the way he pulled, yeah, you wish you could pull bullets off the shelf like that and just have red them. I wish I could just have everything in my head and just like,

beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Or just put it out like that? He makes me want to read. What if we started a people have a book club? People have book on Fridays on Friday. You tried. You had a lot? Yeah, we'll do that, XG, and no one will finish a book.

Hey, dude, are we still reading this book? Oh, dog, sorry, I forgot, man. My bad. Yeah, we've been reading the same book for like five years. We finally get, you know, halfway through. I could totally see that happening. The book note, the little sticky notes he uses, like, like how often, I don't even remember,

needed one when I was in high school. I was just like, oh, right here. Sticky notes. He must run. Oh, dude. And today, too, when you can, because it used to be like, okay, they would design the test around the sparks notes. So you couldn't use sparks notes. But now that you can have AI summarize a book for you, there's, I mean, no, no kid is going to, with the social life is going to read a book ever again. It's going to be like getting the AI summary and, and hoping that does the job. They can summarize your whatever. whatever you upload on YouTube, there's this thing that says, it'll tell you exactly what your episode was about, to the dot where John, I never thought about that. Why would a kid ever read a book? It's over. Yeah, it's over. I mean, how cool that he's on Tucker, by the way.

That's really cool. Yeah. Tucker has, man, they really, if their goal, and this is why I still have questions, although I do like Tucker, if their goal was to diminish him, his influence in any way, they failed miserably at that because he is at the height of his powers right now and influence Tucker Carlson. Well, him and Candice try to counsel both of them.

They just got bigger. It just got bigger. Just got bigger. Yeah. Tucker is a good watch, though. I really enjoy it. I will be sad if he, because I've always said, I've been partial to him because he was one of the only guys on anything approximating mainstream media that gave Ron Paul the time of day

and you know at least paid lip service to his campaign um so yeah it makes me happy to see that he seems to be an okay guy do you like when he does the uh he starts the podcast just by himself he does that usually it's pretty it's just himself his intel yeah i mean i sometimes it depends on what what if i'm there for the guest i'll skip it but it's because sometimes Yeah, but he's, no, I mean, he's gone places I never thought he would, especially like with the spiritual stuff and the sci-fi, or what used to be sci-fi, you know, with all these UFOs and shit. I really don't know what.

I think he's got deeper to go on that, though, because I think we're all going to end up in this place where we think most of that's fake. Is there any way he's controlled? Of course, yeah, of course. Is there any way of Cox, sent him out and like literally pulls like you're going to do this. 100%. There's a way, yeah. I mean, it's hard to believe.

That's what I said. It's just hard to believe because he seems so genuine right now. Yeah. I mean, we're just living. Hey, if you go to samtriplea.com, I'm going to be, again, I'm going to be in Miami. I'm going to be in your mama.

I'm going to be in your mama, joke world comedy festival in St. Petersburg, Lawrence, Kansas. Then I'm going to be in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Then I'm going to be in at Truther Khan in Dallas. Then I'm going to be in Skank. for New Orleans and I'm going to be in Austin closing it out. All my premium content there, fucking purifier.

Okay, I'm just putting out as much content as I can with the best content creators. Johnny, talk about, I'm putting out two to three a week. I'm trying to put out three. Sometimes life gets really busy. So I'm sorry. But Johnny, talk about Cash Daddy's Patreon. Yeah, Cash Daddy's is a podcast where we talk about with Sam, myself and Howie Dewey. We talk about investing and finance, preparing for your retirement.

And then there's a Patreon for that podcast called Patreon.com or located at Patreon.com. slash cash daddies. And that is the place where you can find how he's picks and where he gives out a portfolio that you can follow every year that he updates throughout the year. And yeah, people, there's a good community there and a Discord where people, share ideas and thoughts and every week you get to ask questions of us mostly howie on on the podcast and there's a special version of the podcast with that Q&A patron i answer any questions asked to me johnny no matter what yeah but most other questions are for yeah they are hey real quick

if you go up real quick uh get on my get on my mailing list if you guys could get on my mailing list go up go up go up go up there it is get on my mailing list dude it breaks down everything I'm trying to set my live streams to consistent sometimes because I threw my back out. I couldn't do a couple of the live streams. So I'm sorry, guys. And we will try to do that with Broken Sim someday to get it on the same day. We're trying our hardest. What is Godzilla is the Bible with Jack Grant?

What is what is going on with that? Godzilla's in the Bible. There's literally a talk of Leviathan that is basically Godzilla in the Bible. Basically. There's something new every day. Johnny, thank you for that. Chaos Twins, I'll get you to dude. I'm going to talk to him. T-shirts.

There we go. New T-shirt up. Let's go, dude. You got to July 31st to July 31st to get the 1,000th episode shirt. And I got two more shirts about to go off. That looks different than the one I had. That's a cool shirt. I didn't see that one.

Oh, that looks like your face, Johnny. No, it does look like you. That's the one that doesn't. Yeah, Eddie was immediately like, that doesn't look like me at all. this one is that look at xG's face right there that is XG's fucking face it looks exactly like XG it's like hey dog hey man girls like my shit yeah he's doing XG face for sure isn't the alien's doing XG face too it's weird check yeah you're getting pro is that you're i'm getting pro faced yeah that's your

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big things are happening okay big things are happening and then finally Sam triple go to YouTube support our YouTube it's growing oh that one video's doing pretty well already so in the 10 yeah dude i mean it's moving quicker than you used to listen dude we're one of the ogs of this we used to get hundreds of thousands of views it's so obvious that they're effing with us so what can you do and then uh finally uh youtube dot com slash sam tripley comedy uh xg uh hit uh hit that like subscribe leave a comment i'm trying to reply to all the tinful hot comments so

be part of the community go hit that comment like joddy uh yeah find me on social media i'm at Twitter, Johnny Woodard on Instagram, Johnny A. Woodard, come hang out. All right. Hey, so honestly, I think Jay Dyer is one of the best out there. I thought he, you know, he had a serious run at the Mount Crushmore. If we make it to 500 more,

I think he'll make the Mount Crushmore. He should definitely be in the discussion for sure because it's probably one of the best episodes we've ever done. It's always great when you're over a thousand episodes and you get an episode, go, that might be the one of the best we've ever done. Oh, I think they're, we've had some bangers since we did the thousand. Yeah, we've been banging, dude.

Nothing but bangers. Okay? Bangers. I also like that he and his wife have become kind of a unit. You know, they kind of have a brand together, which is cool. I do. They're a conspiracy super couple. They're doing it.

Johnny, did you see that text or that guy says we can get only for? fans for our conspiracy smoke shows out with my family and he kept sending links to the only fans to to look at and i'm like i'm sorry i won't be able to do this today check out only fans with my eight-year-old nephew here we'll get like three or four he sent was that uh russian cassina i remember that we that we had on tin foil yeah it didn't didn't go too well yeah i mean well we'll get some other ones but i wonder if that would be a different sort of like maybe it would go better and a different environment It would be super interest.

Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Conspiracy slots. What do we call it? No. Conspiracy slots, dude. That would be so fucking funny. It would never happen. No. You know, it's so fucking funny.

Yeah, as soon as we announced the name of the show, it'd be like 10. It gets canceled. The early days, yeah. Conspiracy slots would be so. That'd be so fucking funny, dude. Today's conspiracy. slut is casino

you know it would work I think it'd work if you're a girl out there if you want to start a name for a podcast conspiracy sluts yeah

dude you would crush it just on conspiracies and bikinis you'd act like you wouldn't be a guest on that show I would be there Sam Turply we got

conspiracy I would go in in a phone what did we say to call it though I can't remember we had conspiracy smoke shows oh there we go

okay I thought it was something even a little more insulting than that but dude how funny is this fucking Mitch McConnell

shit. It's so insane. What do you think is going on with him? Yeah, he's dead and they don't want to, they don't want Massey to run for his, his fucking spot. But it's like, dude, these hoes ain't loyal, bro. What, did he get ratted out by a woman or something? No, his wife just took off to China.

Oh, really? Yeah, she's like, oh, finally he's dead. I can go back home. I mean, they already. That's so funny. of the worst humans on the planet or formerly on the planet by the way Mitch McConnell just a scumbag yeah pure fucking scumbad boy that would be great huh if if if he could replace him oh that'd be so funny but that would also add to the chaos that they love yeah it makes you suspicious for sure that makes me suspicious for sure how old is he McConnell yeah oh he's like

85 something like that 84 85 84 yeah 84 yeah he's got you don't have that much time left who wants to live past 80 anybody who's 80 i would say probably 80 if you're in 80 in good health you want to live past 80 may my grandma's 90 and killing it dude she's like that's in perfect i'm getting eaten by bugs right now let's go enjoy the highlights okay later here's a clip from the latest broken sim so do you want to talk about uh the Tyler Robinson thing? Sure, Johnny. Yeah, I mean, it's, Johnny, let me just say something really quick. And it's something I say all the time. This is the, but this is the greatest example of nonlinear warfare I've ever seen in my life. Both sides are convinced they're right. Every piece of evidence

comes out. Both sides says it fits their narrative. No matter what happens, they think it's, it's either a cover up or it's good for their side. It's crazy to me, dude. And, and, you know, my whole opinion is this. I don't know what happened, but if you, you know, we've studied false flags a lot over the almost 10 years our show's been on. Yeah, it's called watching the news. They're all false flags.

But it's not only just watching the news, but also talking to people who've written books and done deep dives and analyze all the information. that come to conclusion that this is a Patsy? Like, you know, I read the John Lennon book. I loved that book. It was like crazy. I loved it. And that book analysis was like he was a Patsy.

He was basically programmed. So these people that are just like, oh, it's over. You know, it's like, I don't know, Johnny. It's like this weird thing where like, kind of you make a bet on with somebody, right? And then they're always quick to say it's over. because they know if it goes too long they're going to lose. So like at the, do you know what I'm saying?

Like at the simple. Yeah. Oh, it's done. It's done. It's done. You're like, well,

dude, it hasn't. No, it's done. It's done. guess right now, like what it is. At, at, at the, I don't know how to say least or most. At the least, he could have been there and, and, and it went on and they're pinning it on them. Right. Right. Yeah. Like, like literally guys, there's a lot of people in the comments section here.

If you ever have a moment, you want to watch a really great movie. It's older, but it's great. It's called Arlington Road. I mean, this is the exact plot. Yeah. And. And then you see at the end that like everybody that was manipulate him is on the news acting like they're just students and shit like that. That's. So I think that's at the least. At the most, he's completely being set up. So that's my opinion. I don't think this guy.

It's possible he wasn't even there. No, 100%. He's getting set up. I mean, Johnny, there's a real part of me that, that think, you know, we always talk about MK ultra sex kittens with Erica Kirk and all these elite women. you know, the first lady being a professional hooker, now she's the first lady. Like, I think everyone at that level is at some point,

MK Ultra Sex Kid. They're basically used. I mean, Mitch McConnell's Chinese bitch. Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. Right? The minute he's about to go out. She's like, I'm back in China, dude.

It's the oldest play and the playbook. Right. The sex kid. But Johnny, we're entering a new. face mk ultra trans sex kittens well that's for that's for your gen z that's what you yeah 100 but there's some real things do that you start to go like because everything's like they got they got oh hold on one second my headphones they got they got twigs dna on this they got twigs dna on it it's always twigs dna you're and then you then johnny do you see the thing let me see if i can find it

for you. It's not exact, Johnny, but it's like the writing samples. They compared old writing samples of, Johnny, honestly, your thumbnail work is fire right now, dude. Oh, it's just I've, given it over to AI. I'm afraid to say because I know. Hey, dude, it's a tool, Johnny. Um, it is a tool. Johnny, will you look this up real quick? This is from Jesse on fire. Real quick, before you show that, real quick. That's just a DNA thing you were talking about. Um, I don't see. You don't have it up. Just be cool, Johnny.

Could you just? If you're going to tell me to take something down, have something up. All right, here we go. You want me to read it or you got it? No, but here, this is, we'll get into it. A lot of words. So this, this is a big thing, right? Right.

It is. So this is Twigs writing, handwriting over here. This is Tyler Robinson confessional note. They're saying it looks very similar. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying is like, why are they giving this guy immunity? Why does Twig get immunity?

I mean, I know why they'll say, but. Right. They'll say because she is a key witness. Yeah. And he's the one that can put him there. But everything that puts Tyler anywhere is based on Twig. Yeah. And here's the DNA.

What a weird name, by the way, Twigs. No, that sounds like the most tranny name I've ever seen in my. hurt in my life. Yeah, it's just a bizarre. It probably has to do with her fucking tranny dick. Like item seven, the towel wrapped around the rifle in the woods had DNA samples 95% to Tyler Robinson,

but also that that Twigs DNA is on there. Screwdriver DNA samples 89% to Robinson 11% to Twigs. And you know, there was this lady mentioned other DNA items. If you want to just want a brief snippet of that, this is what that sounds like.

If you don't, if you're not following it closely. This is the pretrial evidence. He's going to say Lance is in trans. He's a furry. Aren't they all trans furries? It's something. It's something in that ballpark. I mean, but so if you're not falling at home, this is the pre-trial

evidentiary hearing, like where they have to convince a judge essentially that there is a reason to go to trial, you know, that there's evidence against this person. And it sounds like, I mean, it's a no-brainer that they're going to convince the judge because the judge was in there, like, dramatically reacting. I don't know if

saw that. I'll show this. And eight that they both had mixtures. Excuse me. Yes, item seven and eight. And you're testing of these items that they both had mixtures. And you stayed, I want to make sure I understood this. You stated, I believe that the minor sample, the minor contributor was less than 20% and

that it was actually 5%. The ratio was 5% to 95%. For one of the samples, yes. Do you remember that? Yes. Does that mean the 5% was from Twigs and the 95% that 95% is assumed from the defendant, the Robinson? Why is this guy telling you doesn't know what he's doing?

The statistic, Twigs' DNA profile aligned with the 5% contributor and Mr. Robinson's DNA profile align better with the 95% contributor. Align better. Align better. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense, bro. The way, the whole thing is bullshit. Why does this attorney sound, this attorney in this massive trial?

Because he doesn't know what to call, is he to defend it? Because he's not technically on trial yet. But the guy, but he is the defendant. It took him up, it took him a minute to ask the simple question. You just tell his heads going through the roll of decks of words.

Uh, Robinson. I am sick. I'm not trying to make my voice sound more masculine. Johnny's, Johnny's getting, uh, transition to more of a man.

Yeah, I'm getting a third testicle put in. You don't, people don't know about three balls. Yeah, I'm going to have three balls. Some people get theirs chopped. I'm getting another one put in. Get ready. But yeah, so it's weird. And then did you see the judge reacting?

He was watching the video and he was like, I mean, he seems like an actor almost, this judge. Oh my God, just like the Alex Jones trial. Let me see if this is. Yes, yes, precisely. Yeah. This is our judge right here. I assume he will be the. the judge to follow the trial. I'm not totally sure about that, though, it might not be the case.

But there's just, I mean, look at him. It looks straight out of casting, dude. If you'd like to hear the rest of this episode, subscribe to Broken Simulation in your podcasting app, or check us out at YouTube.com slash Sam Tripoli. Man, you know, somebody there. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. Dude, you just blew my mind. Tim Foil hack.