Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #1008: High Strangeness Of The Greystone Park With Sean Stone

Episode Date: July 17, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One night there were two beings out there. He was recording it and he's like, what the fuck? And like he's zooming in and all of a sudden the two beings put up their arms like bats. Then the last time they showed up was Halloween night because remember they started on October 13th. He's like at home and he gets this like ding dong. He goes to the door with a sword and he had me like on his Skype camera or something, you know? And he opens the door and there's tickle me almost. What?
Starting point is 00:00:27 That sucks. Oh, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to tinfoil half. We go deep, home boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge.
Starting point is 00:00:54 There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind blown? All right, welcome to Timphol hat live from the Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Studios. That's right. Wolfpack Gold.
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Starting point is 00:01:39 He's got a lot of stuff going on. He's incredibly handsome. This episode's for the ladies. And he's working on New Doc. We're excited to hear about it. Please welcome the powerful. Sean Stone, how are you, brother? I'm well.
Starting point is 00:01:54 It's been a minute. I like your style, buddy. You are just pure class. I love it, dude. Oh, it's been a while. What's new? I see you were just on Tucker. crushing it like you're doing the big shows life is going good dude yeah you know life life
Starting point is 00:02:11 takes its turns and uh i was lucky enough to connect with tucker a couple years ago i put out a docu series on tucker carlson's network called all the president's men and that was this uh what was it six parts we dove into the russia gate scandal right focusing on the characters like george poppidopoulos roger stone general flynn Cash Patel, Giuliani, Tucker, people that had either been persecuted during the Russia Gate or were real observers of that operation, essentially, right, that led to the first and the second impeachment of Trump. And even, I would say, the election interference in 2020. And, yeah, so Tucker and I connected then, and it was, you know, he's a character. I love, I love his, you know, his authenticity, which is so rare, as you know, when it comes to,
Starting point is 00:03:02 the media space, right? I feel like most people in that space are, you know, you could say bought, corrupted, you know, biased. They have their agenda. And what I appreciate about Tucker is like he just he really does seem to like shift his perspectives because he's willing to listen, right, and adapt and actually like, you know, change and not just be like a talking hit. So it's been, it's been great to know him. Yeah, we got a chance to do an interview, as you know, for a couple hours. we just went through a whole history on the esoteric stuff. Yeah, that's great, dude. It's good to see.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I think it's important that people are allowed to move, to get new data and have a new perspective. I think if you do a snapshot anybody when they're younger, no matter how much younger, it kind of does a disservice to, you know, your journey in your life. You get different, you get new data, you get a new perspective. And it's okay to be able to change your point of view and your belief system. Sean, for those who may not know who you are, and they would be crazy people, but for those who don't, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you. Yeah, that's a good place to start, I guess.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I started acting as a kid before I was even conscious. I was six months old on Salvador, the year and a half, two years on Wall Street. And then from there it was like JFK, the doors, natural born killers. I had little, you know, cameo roles. Oh, that's great. So I was growing up, you know, on movie sets, but also also in the suburban life, you know, of Santa Monica, you know, Brentwood, like West L.A. So I got a chance to see both, I think, well, multiple worlds because we traveled a lot
Starting point is 00:04:52 as a kid as well, like traveling to foreign countries from, you know, East Asia, Africa, all over Europe, the Middle East. It was like it was really, it was an amazing experience to have that contrast. And so I started doing my own films at 18, 19. I started directing behind the scenes on Alexander, my dad's movie. So I took a semester from college. I made the behind the scenes on that epic about Alexander the Great. Went back to finish college.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Did my thesis work on the New World Order. So that actually, that senior thesis at college became a book, you know, 10 years later. And yeah, and then I just kind of dabbled, not because they dabbled, but I experienced and tried different things. You know, I was doing, I was working as an editor with my father. I went to do my first film by breaking into a haunted abandoned mental hospital and just having this crazy experience. And I decided, let me turn this into a movie. And that was called Greystone Park. And that led me to then doing a conspiracy theory show with Jesse Ventura, where, you know, we interview people about the reptilian
Starting point is 00:05:58 conspiracy about time travel, about free energy and also directed energy weapons, you know, a whole host of cool topics. And that led to me doing interview programs for a show called Buzzsaw that ended up on Gaia. And I also ended up doing a news program with my co-hosts from Buzzsaw for Russia today called Watching the Hawks. So I worked for RT America for like five years, did like a whole number of documents. documentaries with them. And then COVID came. I left RT and I just, you know, I ended up doing other documentaries on my own, poetry album, poetry album, poetry book. Yeah, offering, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:41 one-on-one session. So it's like, consult consultation session. So it's like I've just, you know, I work in different fields, I feel, you know, I'm like, I'm an explorer. Yeah, you know, you brought up RT News. It's a very interesting thing. And I, you know, I don't want to get too far off the path, but this like notion that working for RT News is this kind of treacherous thing. It's interesting to me because I have a couple friends that, you know, that have worked at RT News and they always get back to me. And when we talk about, they're like, I've never got one note. They never told me what I could say, what I couldn't say.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And the way people, I remember someone called Lee Camp a traitor. And I was like, what is he a traitor for? He's like, he's working for the Russia. I go, dude, every other, every other country, whether it's Qatar, Israel, whoever you want to say is funding somebody saying something. And then the opposite, you know, the opposite of that is the U.S. government funding, you know, the Operation Mockingbird. So it's like, it's very, it was always really crazy to me. You know, Ben Swans on, is Ben Swan on? No, I don't even know if RT is still there.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Ben Swan was RT. He was RT before I got there, I believe. And then he transitioned out. Abby Martin was there before I got there. Abby's great. When I was there, it was Jesse Ventura, Chris Hedges, Larry King, the famous CNN guy, you know, for whatever 30 years. Live from Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Right? I mean, Larry King is a legend, you know, before he passed away. He was RT America. We had a great, you know, a number of people that were, you know, had been, I mean, Chris Hedges is a Pulitzer Prize winner. I mean, he was a great, these were good journalists. And I felt, you know, what I felt when I was at RT was that we were serving a role that now the podcast community is serving more of, you know, we were alternative to the mainstream because we did not have like, as you know, like the media basically is biased, right? Like most journalists have bias. There's very, it's very rare to find anybody that's going to be like a real journalist that doesn't have bias.
Starting point is 00:08:58 So when you came into like, when you come into the field of journalism, you're looking at it like, okay, CNN is left, Fox News is right. And then over time, a lot of those ones that used to be more maybe right or whatnot, like MSNBC or whatnot, like a lot of them shifted more left. But you look at the whole situation and it's like every outlet is going to have its bias, left leaning, Democrat leaning or right leaning, right? And so, you know, that's why I mentioned Tucker, it's like, you know, to have someone that's just genuinely curious, you know, and unwilling to like do stuff that can be like not necessarily in convention with, you know, Fox News. That's rare. That's what Tucker was willing to do. That's what we had the ability, the freedom to do at RT was we were not controlled by a corporation that was American, right? So we could literally challenge the Democrats. We could challenge Republicans when, you know, the crazy part of the Russia gate conspiracy, I knew it was failed.
Starting point is 00:09:51 when 2015, 2016 happens and they turn around and they give that report. Remember right after Trump won the presidency, the Intel community basically gives a report saying that the Russians interfered in the election and the first thing that they pointed to, the majority thing they could point to was RT America. And they were like, RT America had shows, you know, criticizing Clinton. And it's like, yeah, we definitely had shows criticizing Clinton. We also had people that criticized Trump. I mean, we were definitely like, if you look,
Starting point is 00:10:21 look at most of the people there like Tom Hartman and others, they definitely weren't Trump supporters, you know. But the point is that, you know, we were able to criticize both, you know, all aspects, all wings, let's say, of the bird, you know, the military industrial complex. Yes. I mean, criticize everybody. And because of that, we were a threat. And so, of course, they're going to say, well, you know, you're being paid by the Russians. I'm like, listen, when I don't care who is paying me if, you know, that's not affecting my bias. My bias is that I want to criticize the government.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yeah, the power. That's my perspective, right? That's my bias. My bias is always going to be skeptical of powers. So I don't care who's paying me as long as I get to do that, to do that inquiry, basically. And as I said, I didn't feel that any of us were compromised in any way, you know, by a Russian narrative. The only thing we could say that you could say is correct, yeah, we did not criticize Russia. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Like, I don't think that we, I didn't feel that that was a responsibility, though, because we didn't live in Russia. You know, we lived in America. We're Americans. So we felt, you know, our responsibility was to criticize and watchdog our own government, you know, and whatever happens in Russia, you know, that's for them to figure out. Yeah, I would agree with that, too. And you don't really, the Russia criticism was happening from the American news. So it's like, your job is to do the news that they're not telling you. So why would you do the same thing as what American news was doing? And it was just super interesting that whole thing, man. What a crazy time that was. What a crazy time. that Russia Gate was. I mean, and since then, I've been nothing but crazy. I want to ask you something.
Starting point is 00:11:56 When did you, when did you realize who your dad was? When did you realize that your dad was just not another dad at school? I was about to say, who did I realize my dad was? Well, I mean, I assumed he was my father. I know. Yeah, I get that. Hey, that's my dad. Sometimes you realize years later.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Oh, shit, that's not my dad. That does happen. It's called Jerry Springer. In my case, I felt like I looked enough like him that I was like, I'm not worried about that aspect. But no, I mean, there's different aspects to people. I mean, you know, it's like I would say that that's an interesting question because psychologically to me that there, you know, there's dimensions to people that we find out through the course of our lives.
Starting point is 00:12:43 You know, you, you know, take, for example, like someone that finds out that their father what, you know, let's say was like, you know, a killer, you know, or a pedophile or something like that, you know, like you go through realizations of people, like what their darkness is. And so psychologically, when you say like realizing who your father is, it's like to me, it's asking psychologically who did, how did I discover who my father is over the course of my life? And, you know, the person that I knew as a, as a kid, you know, that was very like domineering and almost like overbearing in some ways, you know, not the most patient person. Um, but I, also realized, I think, at like, four. I remember, like, being struck right after he won the Oscar for Born on the Fourth of July, which was 89, 90, basically. So I was, like, five years old. You know, and I remember, like, being at school, like, he just won the Oscar. And I was like, oh, my father's famous, you know, and I was, like, starting to click in my head, like, oh, these people, like, that I've been engaging with as a kid, like Michael Douglas and, you know, Val Kilmer and Tom Cruise and Charlie Sheen, like, they're famous, you know? Like, there was, like, this other
Starting point is 00:13:49 this realization of like an other world out there, right? That's that's red carpets and celebrity world, celebrity culture, people like having a real, you know, fixation on celebrity, that when you're, you know, when you're before that, you're before that you just see the work or you see the people as humans. You don't think about, you don't think about who they are as celebrities. So again, I think that there was like a transition around five. And then, yeah, I mean, I got to see my father in so many different ways throughout my life,
Starting point is 00:14:18 you know, because I've seen, you know, I've seen his dark sides. I've seen, you know, I've seen his, his heart. I've lived through a divorce, you know, his divorce my mother. I've seen him, you know, one-on-one with me. I've seen him in relationship with my brother and my sister. So it's like I've seen my father so many different faces. That's why it was interesting to make my first documentary about him when I did the documentary on Alexander called Fight Against Time because I literally shadowed him as he was making
Starting point is 00:14:46 the film. And in a way, it was like, you know, Freud says you have to kill your father, right? There's like psychologically something where young men have to like kill the father in their brain. And I was like, well, in my case, I'm recreating him because I get to like retell his story and like shape the narrative about, you know, about who he is. Yeah, there is a time in my life where my, very early I realized my dad was a wild one. he was just a wild man and he was just played by his own rules and a lot of time it didn't work out for him my dad did a lot of great things and then i watched a lot of things go down in flames and as i got older especially when i got in the recovery i learned to look at my father as not only my dad but a
Starting point is 00:15:38 human being who has like trauma and and just you know just he was he was human. You know, when you're really young, your dad's a superhero. Yeah. And then there comes this point where you're like,
Starting point is 00:15:52 okay, my dad did all this fucked up shit or really great shit, but sometimes fucked up shit. And then you start to realize because they had trauma in their life and they were dealing, and they were looking through the,
Starting point is 00:16:03 the prism of their life through this trauma like you were. And then you start to learn to forgive them. Because they weren't perfect. And maybe the things they did wrong were lessons for you to like not, make those mistakes. And I remember when I was in
Starting point is 00:16:17 recovery, I was like, oh, I'm turning my dad. I don't want to go down that same path. So it's very interesting. It's a very, you know, at some point, Michael Jordan's kids realized, okay, dad's a little different than everybody else's dad. And like that moment, sometimes
Starting point is 00:16:33 people, like you said, oh, my dad's a serial killer. That's got to be like insanity, dude. That's crazy. They make documentaries about that. Like TLC was like, oh, when you found out your dad was a serial killer and they'll talk about it, be like, dude, my dad today is still my dad. Like, I know I see him and I see the documentaries on how your dad was this person.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Still my dad. That's rough, bro. Yeah. Can you imagine? What a nightmare. Yeah, when my parents got divorced, my brother got right in the middle of it. And I was like, no. Really?
Starting point is 00:17:00 Yeah. He just wanted to know everything. And I'm like, no, I'm going to stay out. And that's going to be mom. That's going to be dad. And I'm sure nobody's perfect. So, um, I'll give you, like, an interesting, like, little, like, moment of, like, speaking of trauma, right?
Starting point is 00:17:14 Like, so my dad was in Vietnam, right, as a soldier back in 68, 69. So yeah, he was there. I mean, he was there, I think, almost 18 months. And there's a lot of, it was in combat. So there's like a lot of, you know, psychological trauma to deal with from, obviously from war, from, you know, from the fire, you know, from all the fireworks, from having to kill, like, all these things, right? So when we actually, we went back to Vietnam, what, 30 years later, you know, and
Starting point is 00:17:44 later and we were like it was like it was really like a powerful moment because most of the time it was like it was like a partly him reliving and also appreciating you know the memory of what the Vietnamese had sacrificed and you know and done and we went to the kuchi tunnels where you know it's amazing how like they were living like ants you know in these these tunnel systems and I was a kid I was like 13 and it was even like it was even hard for me to get in there because I was already like pretty big but You know, compared to these people, obviously, they're tiny, so they could move these tunnel systems. So anyway, we were traveling to the country. And just one moment, it was like a complete shift in his personality because we were, basically, a taxi driver was going to take us in a rickshaw. And, or was a rickshaw or a taxi? The point is that the guy told him a certain price. And we then, you know, got in the car and drove. And when we got there, I think the guy went up or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:43 But literally it was like 50 cents in US dollars, but you'd have to like do the math to really know. It was just a different price. And when I got so triggered and he really literally just like he was yelling at the guy. But I saw him flashing back like he really wasn't there anymore. He was in the past. He was seeing this guy as basically as someone that, you know, you know, as the language of the time, like as a gook as someone that was like pissing him off that was trying to take advantage of him that was an enemy. And it was just like he got so aggressive and so angry. and was like throwing the money at him.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And then afterward, I was like, you know, that was just 50 cents. And he was like completely befuddled, you know, as to what had happened. It was clear that he was just in a pure PTSD moment. Yes. And his shadow took over. You have your shadow.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And sometimes, you know, you got to learn how to live with your shadow. You'll never get rid of your shadow. It's always going to be there. And sometimes you need Hulk smash, you know. And then sometimes you're like, oh, I shouldn't Hulk smash. And it's like, that's the, that is the progress. of becoming an adult.
Starting point is 00:19:44 That was super. Man, that's crazy. And it's, you brought up to word gook. And it's like, do you guys know that that was actually a term by the Vietnamese for the Americans? And the Americans liked it so much. They just turned around and start calling that, man. And they were just like, oh.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And they're like, you took our word. You're like, it's too good. You've always said that we're the best at that. Yeah, we really are. We're the best flipping that shit, dude. So your dad, like, you know, I don't want to make this about your dad. obviously but I just found the journey is very interesting but the reason I bring up this last question is like you've obviously moved into the world of conspiracies
Starting point is 00:20:21 my father um he told me something at a very early age and it just kind of changed the way I looked at everything was like he said to me believe nothing what you hear and half what you see now at this point's believe nothing what you hear and nothing what you see because AI is just coming to slop the shit out of us right so yeah um but it's seems to me that you've gone in a little different direction, your own person. You know, I'm not, I'm not trying to make this about your dad, but I mean, you're in your own, you're on your own journey and you're now into things like the paranormal and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Like, how did that journey happen? Yeah, well, I mean, I started off by looking at, you know, looking at the world differently, obviously, because I was born into a different perspective, you could say, right? I mean, my dad's perspective on history was more counter, you know, more about countermythologies, right? More about dispelling the illusions of, you know, a lot of what he did in the Untold History of the United States docuseries was based on informed through a lot of his work and research in the previous years, you know, even with projects like Salvador all the way through JFK in particular. And so I already had a perspective that was like more anti-establishment. And then I focused on history. And as I mentioned, I did the documentary, before the doc, I did the book on the New World
Starting point is 00:21:54 Order when I was in college. So my background was in history. And, you know, when you study history, honestly, you get into things that are strange. you know supernatural mythic legends you know and a lot of questions right because if you're really interested in understanding power I think Game of Thrones is one of the best shows on TV because the guy clearly understands history
Starting point is 00:22:24 and he understands the dynamics of power and this question of like you know it goes back to you know there's three people in a room a general a pope and a president who has the power right Is it political? Is it like, you know, election, right? Elections. Is it spiritual?
Starting point is 00:22:43 Is it military? And it's like you could say that whoever has the gun has the power, but there's also the power of belief. And, you know, what we choose to believe in. So I've always been fascinated by power and the dynamics of it. And then there's also like, you know, a question when you get into power of, you know, I was reading books like James Mars's work like Rule by Secret. and David Ike's work on The Biggest Secret and William Cooper and people like this. And you know, you get into stuff about like UFOs and extra-dimensional beings.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And you get into questions around, you know, the masons and other like secret societies that have been around, you know, Templars and others that have been around for ages. And you also just get into like the question of the mysteries because obviously like mystery traditions are part of, you know, they're part of all cultures, initiatory mystery schools. they were in ancient greece they were in age you know in egypt and um they were part of you know the eastern traditions because there's something that is going on here that is transcendent right and so whether we you know however you want to describe it you know whether you believe in one creator or you believe in the sky gods of the bibles and the samarian accounts or the hindus you know obviously they're all sky gods right and you know you can dismiss it and be like oh these are just hallucinations or stories or whatever but um i was like okay you know i'm willing to to to explore
Starting point is 00:24:13 this realm and when i opened myself to that you know high strangeness ensued so it was just sort of it was a journey of like step by step opening of opening a door and just like inviting in uh all kinds of experiences and encounters guys so the the the the golf of him here is open, it's closed, it's open, it's closed. Who knows? All I know is they're printing money left and right, and the more money they print the less your money's worth.
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Starting point is 00:28:04 I find what you're saying very interesting because I was having a great conversation with a couple buddies last night. And, you know, XG has a buddy, Nitty, right? Yeah, Nitty. Nitty. And Nitty wants to go see Dogman at Skywalker Ranch, right? Skin Walker. Skinwalker.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Excuse me, Skinwalker Ranch. Oh, what is dog man? What is dog man? So, you know, dogman is one of the cryptids out there along the lines of Bigfoot and Owl Man and all that stuff. And there's so much footage of crazy stuff happening there. And, you know, and one of the people there was like, you know, people like, you know, they're all into Dog Man. And he felt that was like white belt shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:51 You know, in conspiracies. And then he goes, you know, the real stuff is like the multi-layered generational, like, popular. corruption of government and humanity. And I understand what he's saying, but I really do believe it's all connected. It's all connected. Like, you know, the cryptid is connected to the highest levels of corruption in the government because it is that there is something more going on here.
Starting point is 00:29:18 It may be lower level, but it's still very important to the understanding that our reality isn't real. there's witchcraft everywhere and there's sorcery being done to manipulate our energy to to cause an outcome that the elites want right so to me that's it's all very important it's it is important to the story it is it is important to understanding that the realm you live in is a lot more interesting than they want you to believe like they really want you believe you're just as as you know um a bill hicks called us viruses and sneakers you know like we're a lot more than that and i find it very interesting you know have you had any paranoid uh
Starting point is 00:30:05 paranormal yeah i've had a ton of those guys smoke pretty a lot i get paranoid a lot have you actually if you haven't any paranormal experiences at all nothing like oh you hear something then you look good but i'm that type where like i want to deny it so even when it happens i'm like no that was that was this, that was that, because I don't want to believe it. Because when you believe it, I think it is real. The more you believe in it, the more I think it it becomes a thing. Well, the interesting thing about not believing it,
Starting point is 00:30:31 it makes it harder for you to see it. But I don't want to see it. Like, dude, does anybody seriously want to see any weird shit? Yeah, dude. I mean, they talk about the, speaking of not seeing things. Like, the Greeks, they, in all, for forever, they had no word for blue. They never described blue
Starting point is 00:30:49 in literature. You can find all, like... Did they have blue, though? Well, they viewed it as as a shade of another, like red, basically, like a different color. And then they've studied this, and they've found out that societies
Starting point is 00:31:05 and people, as they evolve, blue is the last color that you learn to disambiguate from other colors. Really? Yeah, so it's that exactly what you're talking about, where if you don't expect to see something, Yeah, you're not going to see if you don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Yeah, you can't see it. You don't see it. What was that, Sean? But then what colors have we not evolved to see that? I mean, we know obviously you don't see us. Yeah, isn't there that new color that they discovered? Well, yeah. Remember we did something on you? Well, it was, you can't, you can't, yes, it exists only in laboratory settings, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:40 That's so crazy to me. Why can I make a crayon that color and then we see it? Yeah, because it's. There's so much money in that. New crayon. You fucking crush it. Depends on rods in your eye being stimulated by a piece of laboratory equipment that can only be done in that way. So, Sean, you have, now is the movie already out or is it coming out your first film?
Starting point is 00:32:06 It's already out, Greystone Park? Greystone's out. Yeah, so what happened was, oh, man, for like three years. It took three years to get it made. it was a weird it was it was such a such a strange time in my life but so basically 2009 October we October 13th we broke in for the first time and I just met Alex who became my co-writer and co-star in the film but I just met him
Starting point is 00:32:35 the night before with my dad because he was like Alex was hanging out on Wall Street to the set and like and I was there like I did like a little cameo in Wall Street too so we got we looked up and he was like he was all into the paranormal stuff because he grew up in Jersey. And you know how like Jersey's, like, Jersey's weird. Yeah, dude, a lot of paranormal around Jersey too. Jersey Devil and the, anyway, like there's all, they had weird NJ as a magazine, right? So, you know, there's like a lot of stuff on that, you know, Jersey to like upstate New York area and a lot of mental hospitals.
Starting point is 00:33:09 So he would like take it back to, sorry to cut you off. But the, one of the epicenters of the occult is upstate New York. and you would never know that when you're there. It is an epicenter. Yeah. And so what creeped me out was like, okay, so a lot, obviously a lot happened. But the first night, we were, like, we were just telling, like, kind of just sharing ghost stories. And he was talking about Greystone because it was a famous mental hospital, like, in the beginning of the Bruce, the Bob Dylan, the Bob Dylan movie, he goes to visit Woody Guthrie.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Is it Bob Dylan? He goes to visit what he got through, right? Yeah, that's right. and Woody's at the Greystone Mental Hospital. So this place was massive. They found about 3,000 bodies buried there when they closed the facility down. The place had, you know, it had been there for 100 years. And, you know, when we showed up that night, and we had to park the car and, like, you know, you're breaking in.
Starting point is 00:34:12 So you're like, you're trying to avoid, you know, security driving by. and you're just like running around to find like an open door. And it was just creepy because like there was one door that had like a broomstick on it. And that was the open door. And Alex had already told me like in the past while exploring some of these places that he'd encounter Satanists. Like doing like basically like at some of these locations. Oh my. And I was like October 13th already is like, you know, it's an inversion of October 31, which is Halloween.
Starting point is 00:34:42 So I was like there's a possibility that there could be Satan. here, the broomstick on the door was just creepy. So anyway, go into place and we're like walking in. And you know, you walk in this place and it's like walking on the moon. Like you literally just feel like you're the only person and obviously other explorers do it. But like most people don't go in these places, man. They're like they've been abandoned for, you know, 10, 15, 20 years. But all the lights were on, all the stuff, the desk, the paperwork, everything was like scattered.
Starting point is 00:35:09 And it was just like someone had created a mess and left, you know, but it was all there. And so you're just walking through this place and starting to feel like, you know, the energy as like time goes by, I think, you know, we're there for like an hour, like exploring the bottom floor, then moving up layer, like, level by level. And it gets darker and darker until you get to the top floors where, like, the roof is, like, caving in. And like, some of it's completely messed up and kind of dangerous. And so, like, that's when it gets completely pitch black and you don't really see anything. But we had the, you know, our flashlights. and anyway so we get to a certain place
Starting point is 00:35:49 and Alex basically like stops he's in front and like he stops and then like he like takes off running and they like ran down like three four flights of stairs and then like he finally stopped he was like literally dry heaving and he was like he's like well did you see that did you see that face and I was like what he's like this woman's face came out of the ground
Starting point is 00:36:05 and like in my face and I was like okay listen I don't know you know you saw something or not like you know you you seem freaked out. Let's just keep going. And he's like, no, no, no, no. I'm like, let's get out of here.
Starting point is 00:36:22 He's like, let's keep going. And I'm like, I think we should just get out of here. He's like, no, no, no, I want to go to the kitchen. I'm like, why don't go to the kitchen? He's like, that's where they eat. And I was like, who eats? And I was like, I was like, is this guy trying to, like, lead us to get killed? Like, what is going on right now?
Starting point is 00:36:35 Real quick, sorry to. Is this hospital been closed down for a while? Oh, yeah. At that point had been closed for like 20 years. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. You look it up when Greystone Park was initially closed, but this was 2009. So it's probably about 20 years. It's been shut down or more.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And like I said, it's still got the lights and the power and everything on. So yeah, so we go back to the lower floors. We're continuing to like walk around. And you get lost. I mean, this place is so big. You literally, it feels like a labyrinth. You know, and that was like another thing. It's like you start to like wonder, like, how am I going to get out of here?
Starting point is 00:37:10 Because you don't really, you know, you don't know. Most of these doors are locked. you know and you start to like get like you know it's good you gets nervous because you don't know which way you know which way to go like how to you know how to get out of if the if the doors are locked you know how do you find the open door again you know so it was this kind of this feeling that I put into the movie when I ultimately made the film of like you know getting lost and locked you know and locked in into an asylum and then started to see stuff and getting more and more paranoid now thankfully that first night we we got to a place where he wanted to keep going
Starting point is 00:37:42 but we went into this corridor and we saw like a boot in the middle corridor and it was just like I don't know this all feels wrong whose boot is that what's going on we need to go and then we heard something above us and it was like steps
Starting point is 00:37:57 and that's when I was just like get us out of here right now so we just took off like found a door busted out went back to the car took off but here's where things got even great
Starting point is 00:38:11 Like that was just the beginning of how things started getting crazy because that was nothing. Like that was just the entree. I mean, that's why like what I'm going to be putting out is the documentary of the behind the scenes of some of the stuff. Not even, I can't even document all of it because it was too much. But I literally have like a documentary with the things that followed that ensued. But the first thing that ensued and I don't have it in the documentary is that I went back to L.A., right? and immediately got into like a car accident like by the way like right the next day
Starting point is 00:38:44 it was like the energy was like still off like I got their car accident like the next day but it wasn't a bad one it was just like I could feel like my energy was off and then paranormal activity comes out the movie right and the same month so for so we ultimately we got screwed on timing for all of this because what we were doing was like a handheld
Starting point is 00:39:02 documentary style but by the time it came out it was like oh you're a painable activity I'm like no we actually live this stuff and this is our experience, but that's a whole other story. So the point is, so we're diving into the Pearl now and I go back to LA. Alex is in Jersey and he starts getting these people outside of his house. And this is why I mentioned the Satanist stuff because I don't know for sure what this, you know, what that was, but he was recording, like he'd call me, you know, from New York
Starting point is 00:39:33 and it's like, you know, 11 o'clock or 12 o'clock in New York and it's like 9 o'clock in L.A., right? and he had like a video camera and he would be like or it was like he would send me the video recording or he was Skyping but basically I would see these this like guy outside
Starting point is 00:39:48 you couldn't tell if it was a man or woman who was all cloaked right like remember I know what you did last summer like that kind of style like just completely like hooded and like hat and everything like you can't see the person and it had like it had like a torch not like a candle but like some kind of like you know torch light
Starting point is 00:40:04 and it was like chanting and it was just standing in the street outside of his house Chanting. Nope. Yeah. Yep. Nope. And it would appear.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Like, it wouldn't go every night. Like, but occasionally, like, he would like, then like, he would like freak out. He'd run down. He'd come and like, you know, he'd like open the door and it'd be gone. So, like, he was freaked out. And, um, and then, you know, then like, maybe like a week later it would show up and like the same thing. And then the craziest one was like to, uh, one night there were two beings out there.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Okay. Two figures. And he was recording it. He's like, what? the fuck and like he's zooming in and all of a sudden the two beings put up their arms like bats like oh come on he was freaking out you know he went downstairs there with his sword and everything they couldn't figure out who these people were and then the last then the last time they showed up was Halloween night because remember they started on october 13th so Halloween night October 31
Starting point is 00:41:00 he's like at home and he gets this like ding dong and it's like i can remember if it was early or late because it was like, it wasn't, it was like, he was, like, freaked out because he was like, he goes to the door with a sword. And I, he had me like on his, like, Skype camera or something, you know. And he opens the door and there's TickleMealmo sitting on. What? That's so crazy, dude. I was like, that's pretty funny. And that was it.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Funny? That's creepy. I mean, it's funny. When you look, you're like scared. You think it's going to be a monster. And there's Tickle me Elmo. But that is. still creepy, dude.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Right, yeah. And that's the kind of stuff, I mean, that's the kind of stuff that we ended up, like, I mean, a lot of the stuff that's in the documentary, you know, like, people will see, like, that's straight up crazy ghost stories. But some of the stuff that we encountered, I didn't even put it in the documentary because I wasn't even like, how do I explain this to people? Yeah. Like, Alex went to Greystone one night.
Starting point is 00:41:58 And I think it was like a year later. Because we were like, it was a three-year process of making the movie. Like, we fought, we shot part of the film. funding fell apart. We finished shooting. The investor basically wanted to seize the film and was like, you know, you know, going to take it away from me and we had to like then go to some other people to find post money and post it. It took like three years, right? I'm like shooting it to getting it out. So in that time, we're like, we're ghost hunting. We're going to different mental hospitals. We're exploring. And then like, and then Alex went one night to Greystone. And what
Starting point is 00:42:33 happened. He ended up with a book of the dead, like a Necronomicon book. Oh my god, it just gets crazier. Yeah. Listen, this is where it's like, I mean, I can't, like, honestly, I can't even remember, like, some of this stuff because it got so out, like, kind of like, what is reality at this point? But he ended up going to Greystone, and like he basically said it was like, it was like Halloween and he's like, there were a bunch of Satanus there. And somehow, he ended up with the book of the dead because he was like, he went into the basement. Now, the basement is like a whole other terrain that we explored one time and I'll give you like a quick idea of what the basement was. The basement goes into like the catacombs and it goes on for miles in all directions.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Like literally that's how I think a lot of the saneness or whatnot could enter like would be through catacombs right and like do their rituals or whatnot. And so one night I was there with my brother Alex and a police officer. off duty because he was like a buddy and we're like I was just like listen if we're breaking in this place I feel more comfortable with you being there and also in case there's any Satanist or anybody in here you've got a gun so we go into the Greystone that night and we're like we're exploring and we ended up deciding to go down into the basement to the catacombs so Alex is right in front of me I'm right behind him I think it's my brother in the cop
Starting point is 00:43:59 and we're like going down the stairs and Alex right in front of me jumps and like starts running and I saw that there was something with a flashlight like I could see it like a light down there because it's pitch black in the in the catacombs right
Starting point is 00:44:13 but there's something with a light flashlight and he's like he's like telling the cop like give me your gun give me your gun he's like I'm like don't give him his gun don't give him your gun just come here but like look at like what's going on okay I don't want him to have the gun
Starting point is 00:44:26 I want the cop to have the gun right but the point is that there's something down there. So we keep going down and like we're looking around like trying to see like what was that. Is there a homeless person living down here? Is there a Satanist doing some work? Like what's down here, right? And the cop like is with us and he's scanning this area and he basically says that he like flashes upon something. He said it doesn't look like it's human and then it disappears. But we keep going. We keep exploring through the catacombs. like 30, 40 minutes, you know, walking around just like we find like the power, the power, what is it
Starting point is 00:45:06 called, the main frame, like, you know, for the power, the energy grid, all this like, you know, we're checking out down there. And it was like, it was just cool we were exploring, but there was something down there when we first walked into the catacombs. So from my recollection, when Alex told me he got this book of the dead and he showed me this thing. And it was like, I don't think it was in English. I think it was in some Aramaic or ancient script. What? He goes, he goes, I took this out of Greystone. He goes, I found this in Greystone and I took it out. And basically, he goes, ever since then, some weird, like, bad things have been happening. Like, to his family, to his mom, is that, like, all, like, his mom was having
Starting point is 00:45:46 nightmares. What? Some crazy stuff was going on, right? It was a book? It was the book, right? So we're like, listen, you got to take the book back. Bring it back. So what happened was, I think. This is great. Like, this is just, I mean, the stuff that happened. So we go back to bring the book back. And on the drive, we stop at Burger King.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Okay. And I don't know what the fuck this thing was. It was like an experience out of the Men in Black. We're at the Burger King. And another other's weird people at Burger King. And one of the guys at Burger King was straight up possessed. He was straight up, like, hooded. had it, he was looking at like these newspaper clippings.
Starting point is 00:46:28 He had like 12 newspaper clippings like cut up and just like randomly assembled. And he was just like whispering and just like, like you get crazy people like that. Okay, fair enough. Yeah. But this one dude walks in the bird and that's like he's got a hood. Can't see his face for some reason. He goes up to the can he like walks kind of like like the guy in men in black, you know, like he's disembodied like he's not in his body and like walks up to the the guy at the
Starting point is 00:46:54 counter he's like he orders a coke you know a sugar water whatever he's at and then like he just takes the cup and fills it up with coke you know like the big big cup you know and you fill it up and then he just starts slurping and slurping it and we're like looking at him like and we're literally have a camera and we're trying to get around to like see his face but he keeps clocking his head so we can't so literally like every time we start moving it's just like you can only see like the side like to there right you can't see his face and he keeps clocking and he clogging but he's slurping this Coke and he drinks the whole Coke fills it again drinks the whole Coke fills it again drinks like three she chugs three coaks while we're sitting there trying to see who this person is and he's
Starting point is 00:47:35 completely like he will not he knows we're watching him because he just keeps clocking himself just enough so that we can't see his face it's it was so surreal is this all in the movie no this is not even in the movie is what I'm telling you this is some of the stuff we live man this is like the high strange like the strangeness of that time period so we We just, he walks out and we're just like, I don't know what that was, but we're going to go put this book back in Greystone, right? That's what we told ourselves at least. So now it's like, there's three of us, right? Alex, another guy.
Starting point is 00:48:04 The three of us drive the car up to Greystone and it's like a rain. It starts raining. It's like not the best weather. It just starts raining out of the blue. And we park and we're like looking at it and we're like, ah, I don't know. I don't know. Like, I'm not feeling it right now. Like none of us were feeling it.
Starting point is 00:48:21 You know, like you got to feel it. Like, yeah, like we're going in and like we're just like, we're just like, no and I swear while we're sitting there in the park car something literally like landed boom boom boom like it ran over the car
Starting point is 00:48:35 oh shit what just like and we're just like I don't think it's the night man let's go how hard is it to get in there is it gated is there just like a random
Starting point is 00:48:51 wooded window that's open like how hard is it if you're home Can you live in there? In the cat combs? No, it was an open layout. If you're homeless,
Starting point is 00:49:01 you don't want to live in. Oh, yeah. You don't want to live in Greystone. Yeah, dude, you're not coming out. I mean,
Starting point is 00:49:06 I'm trying to tell you, like, you don't want to live there. You will end up possessed if you were not already. You know, the thing is, it's open in the sense that,
Starting point is 00:49:16 like, it's an open, like a park, you know, like a park that you can drive up to the front door. The reason it's hard to get in is you have to hide the car. Like,
Starting point is 00:49:23 one night we had to, like, to like it was almost like a swamp. We're walking through like snakes of the swamp kind of feeling because you don't want to get caught. If the security driving by because they do like their hourly like, you know, drive by, if they see your car, then, you know, they'll wait for you and bust you. So we have to like drive in a plate and hide your car in a place that you can then run,
Starting point is 00:49:50 you know, and run and find then like an open door. And as I said, the place was massive. It was the biggest foundation until they put the Pentagon. That's how big it was. Oh, wow. So, you know, yeah, it was huge. So we would always, like, enter at different points, you know. I even like, I even like, well, it was worse than a sprain.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Like, I had like a slight fracture from jumping over the railing one time. Ended up in a bootcast for like, you know, six weeks. Jeez. So it was, you know, it was adventurous. But how do we end up getting rid of the Book of the Dead? We ended up just burning it. He just had this ritual and just burned the book. So this book was in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:50:32 You grabbed it, took it out, and you're like, oh, dude, chaos. Let's burn this fucking book. Let's burn the necronomicon. So that was the end of that chapter. And that's like not even in a documentary. So I'm telling you tell you, like there was so much stuff that we lived that what I'm putting in the documentary is literally just the stuff that like I actually was able to record. And I mean, some of the stuff that I recorded.
Starting point is 00:50:54 ended up getting erased. Like one of the incursions into this other place that was really messed up, and that's a whole other story. But like I recorded this girl getting possessed. And when we transferred the footage from the phone, I'm sorry, from the camera to the computer at that time, like this is all 15 years ago now, the footage stops when we enter. Right before we enter the building, it stops, and it picks up after we leave the building. even though we watched it back many times, like on the camera.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Dude, that is crazy. Wiped it. Producer's worst nightmare, by the way. Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, it's like, you'll see in the documentary. It's still, the documentary still works without it. It just sucks because it was like.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Such an amazing. Sound and video you lost. No, just black. Just nothing. Like nothing because it's digital. This is digital, right? Right. So it's all, yeah, I got you.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Somehow the digital cards completely gone. Like just that, just for the moment before. entering the building to the moment to like basically like minutes after we left. Yeah. All of it got. Guys, listen, we are in a battle for humanity and the only way we're going to get out of this is the hump our way out, okay? We're talking deep dickens, all right?
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Starting point is 00:54:39 These guys are on it. They're getting emails all the time. Tell you what I'm doing this week, the shows I'm coming up for. And then check out World War Debate. Big news coming. Let's get back to it. That is the weird thing about the paranormal. It's like how do they know cameras are there?
Starting point is 00:54:53 Because they have such a great... It's all energy, isn't it? A great job of hiding from it. It's all electricity. It's like, you know, if you... Okay, let's say you think Bigfoot is just another animal. Yeah, how come it's so hard to get a shot of it? How does it know that it is...
Starting point is 00:55:13 That it's being watched? The frequencies. It fucks it up. Maybe, dude. So we were talking about, you guys were talking about Skinwalker Ranch. So we went to Skinwalker when we were doing the conspiracy theory show. And that was Tyrell Ventura, Jesse's son and myself. We were like the two co-hosts, like leads on it.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And we were hanging out outside Skinwalker like most of the day because we couldn't get access to like the property itself. I know that since then they've done like a really good series like accessing the property. But we were just hanging out like at the perimeter. And at one point, like, I hopped the fence and I was like just like starting to walk on to just kind of scout it out, see what I could, you know, see what I can see what I can see. And I kid you not, like after maybe like 500 yards in, I felt like something burning in my leg, almost like, you know, like you could maybe say like an energy weapon or something. But like something was literally like felt like it was burning. And I was just like, all right, I'm out of here. I don't know what's going on. Dude, you are just putting yourself in chaos, bro. So I came back And then hours later We went away We came back
Starting point is 00:56:19 We were like You know We were doing other stuff For the show Like doing interviews and stuff And then we came back at night And There was a moment where
Starting point is 00:56:29 I'm sitting in front of Tyrell I'm like And I hear this like The That the That That And I just like freeze
Starting point is 00:56:40 And I'm just like Looking Straight ahead and I don't know, maybe it was five seconds, 10 seconds, but I heard it. And then it went away. And I turned around because I didn't think to look up. I don't know. I don't even know if I.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Maybe I was frozen in time. I just, like, froze. And I look at Tyrell, and Tyrell's mouth is like a gape. And he's just, did you see that? And I was like, what? And he goes, and he wasn't a believer. This is to the point that, like, people who believe versus don't believe. I don't think it's necessary.
Starting point is 00:57:14 You don't have to be a believer. When something shifts your consciousness, then you'll have that experience. And he basically said that there was a diamond-shaped craft that appeared in the sky, and it looked like it emitted like a green kind of laser. What? And then, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:34 And then it just, like, did like, it, like, pivoted, and then, like, shot off. And we didn't record it. I mean, no one was recording. I don't think anyone else saw it, except I heard it. He saw it. So, you know, again, it's like, it's an experience in consciousness. That's the best way I can put it.
Starting point is 00:57:53 And that's why when they do communicate with you through like, like, okay, synchronicities, it can sometimes be like on your computer. You might like get something like breaking up the image or coming through on the image. It can be through your phone, like through frequencies of phone calls or texts. I mean, I don't think any of that's far out. People are laughing when I talked about like demonic, you know, six, six, six phone calls, but it's just the frequency. You know, people have been talking about ghost calls forever, right?
Starting point is 00:58:21 The white noise, the phantom phone calls, the ghost calls from dead people. You ever heard? Like, there's like the Wi-Files did a great episode about this. Like, people that were literally dead. Like, this guy were calling their loved ones. I remember that episode. There was one in a train. This guy dies in a train and like a crazy train wreck and he keeps getting phone calls.
Starting point is 00:58:42 calls and then they keep calls coming in for a while. It's really, it's, it's nuts. So you're like, who's calling? That's crazy, dude. So I wonder if this goes back and I need to do more, a big episode on it, is King Solomon and when he figures out how to control the demons. And I think I could be wrong, but there's something about that. He says you can't directly talk to them.
Starting point is 00:59:10 He kind of makes this rule with them. you can't directly talk to them. You have to talk to them through symbols and stuff like that. Like the Ouija board? Does that what you mean? Like, yeah, like what we're talking about, phantom calls or, you know, something weird on your computer.
Starting point is 00:59:25 It can't be directly communication. It's interesting, man. It's all of it's super interesting. Man, that's some crazy as shit. I mean, you think about the nature of incantation. I mean, ritual is like, it's incantation right that's that's the there's power to to words to language to frequency right as it's emitted by by words um and so when you think you know what is like why does a spell work
Starting point is 00:59:56 based well spell spelling right what do we do we spell words right um we we invoke something based on on on the frequency that you know we're you know we're speaking at and then as we know from like the different studies of frequency and like water how it affects water right the emot like was a dr imota in japanese studies of like different frequencies and how it affects like the molecular structure of water or you know how when it's more coherent it looks like a snowflake it looks like a hexagram and when it gets like more muddied and more like discordant negative energy yeah basically right negative energy so i think all of that you know resonates whether it's demonic or
Starting point is 01:00:41 you know it's it's like you know whether it's discordant chaotic I mean that's the energy it's fear based for the most part the energy of fear is where like dark things live you know they they pray upon and so
Starting point is 01:00:56 the main point you know is not to be like not just you can't like I said you can't erase the shadow this goes to the heart of it you know you can't get rid of the shadow you can't banish Lucifer you know you can't like get rid of these things things, you have to be able to overcome your fear of it. You have to be able to overcome your fear of
Starting point is 01:01:14 the shadow of the, of whatever, of that dark side, of that darkness, because it's also in you or there's at least a potential for it in you. And so you have to overcome that with, with love, with faith, with courage, right? And that's the eternal struggle, really, is just facing, you know, facing our own fears. So I remember when I, I just did a podcast and I was like, it's literal magic, dude. It's literally sorcery. Like, we're dealing with like, like, when we're talking next gen, a webinar, propaganda, propaganda, weather manipulation, whatever it is, dude.
Starting point is 01:01:57 It's like straight up, Dr. Strange magic, dude. And, like, the more I hear what you're saying, the more it's like high strangeness is the best. way to call it the best term for it because it's just so much deeper and you know it's very funny because like you have like the the owlman of chicago which is like the only cryptid that somewhat enters a big city you know it's like maybe it's on the fringe but most of this stuff happens outside of the big city i think it's because the electromagnetic energy of a big city kind of shields you from seeing a lot of this stuff but when you get into the small towns where there's less electricity all over the place in deep into the country where there's very little at all now you start
Starting point is 01:02:45 the veil starts to be lifted and you start to see more of this stuff and it's i mean it's crazy how people love it in hollywood they love to see movies about it but they can't make that jump to like hey this stuff's real you know it's like you know when i say it's like harry potter shit it's just not as obvious. I'm being dead serious, dude. I'm being dead serious. They are manipulating energy. And it's real. And people don't understand that. They just think it's fairy tale shit. I mean, that's where I, I know, part of me, part of me thinks, you know, feels that if they're so, just, people are so dismissive, they're also being manipulated, you know, to believe that, you know, to fall into that trap. right it's not it's not it's not from a place of light you know when you when you you know it's like being like an atheist or something you know it's like okay well you're miss you're kind of missing
Starting point is 01:03:50 the reality you know how do we you know the question the fundamental questions of how we're here and and and what we are right you can't explain like you can't explain it from within the experience within the human experience you can't explain it so there was a guy that i had on my pod that literally he was an atheist and I'm like well what do you believe and he goes back to simulation and I'm like well if you believe in simulation you believe in God because someone created the simulation and he's still he's like nope it's just a game
Starting point is 01:04:17 I'm like okay but if it's a game someone created the game dude and he's like nope nope I'm atheist nothing's gonna happen when I die and I'm just he just he's being manipulating like he's got secrets dude or something like they're usually yeah you you hope that nothing yeah you're like I can do whatever I want
Starting point is 01:04:34 there's no consequences that's When I hear somebody say that, you know, they tend to be a little bit more well-to-do, right? And they've got secrets, dude. They got secrets, man. If you don't want to believe in karma or any of that shit, they got secrets, dude. And that's 100% true. Dude, that was crazy. Hey, I want to get into your RFK movie.
Starting point is 01:05:01 And the reason I'm, you know, and I'm not trying to go down any other. I just think there's some shit going out with this Tyler Robinson stuff that, you know, the RFK assassination is such a really great example of how like you got really watch yourself when you start just buying into official narratives and when there's so much more really going. Like, especially with RFK Jr. going around going, that dude didn't kill my dad. it was this guy who died in like Thailand or some shit like that to me is like a cautionary tale and it's like you know johnny and well we're all talking before the show about how it's like that that trials just people are going to war on twitter like people are like people who are cool or not cool and they're just screaming at each other
Starting point is 01:05:55 a very much a nonlinear warfare kind of way i i know it's right you're dumb you know i know it's right you're dumb and it's like they're just at each other's necks and i just say you got to study some history man see like i don't know what happened but i know there's a history of that and events that sound a lot like this that i would be very cautious in in deep throating any kind of fucking official narrative you know so tell us a little bit about your movie yeah um so the doc came from a you know from an idea of paralleling the father and son journey, RFK, senior, and junior, because I felt that, A, I mean, RFK Jr., running for president was an important moment in 2024.
Starting point is 01:06:45 He was throwing his hat in the ring as the first, well, not the first, but I guess Teddy Kennedy did run, but really the most consequential nominee was RFK Senior in 68, and he was killed during the, before, you know, basically before, the primary right during the primaries before he was nominated to become the candidate for the democrat party and uh and that assassination was huge in the psyche of the public i mean people talk so much about jfk and written so many books on the subject and as we know it's it's one of those endless gateway conspiracies where you can go down countless rabbit holes of who did it
Starting point is 01:07:26 certainly we you know it's pretty clear it's not oswald alone but we can say that who ultimately did it is very complex. RFK senior is likewise complex and very much like the second pillar of the story, right? It's two assassinations because RFK senior could have, he could have gone back into the investigation of who killed his brother once he was the president. He could have winded down the Vietnam War more and more rapidly. he could have been a you could say like a bridge between Democrats and Republicans at that time in 68 when you had the youth generation that became kind of known as like the hippies right the counterculture
Starting point is 01:08:10 I think that RFK senior was more sympathetic to them than Nixon he was certainly more liked by them also by like the black community and others so I feel like RFK could have been a centralizing figure, let's say, for the country at a time that we were polarizing. And so it was, you know, it was tragic that he was struck down. Then RFK Jr. basically runs in that same mold. So I thought that was interesting, you know, to see the legacy that of, you know, of basically overcoming tragedy. RFK Jr. overcame the tragedy of his father's death to become something, become a great environmental lawyer and also go through his own kind of assassination. In his case, it was character assassination. So to go back to RFK Senior, yeah, I mean, the story of assassination doesn't make any sense
Starting point is 01:09:00 because the main component that the case rests upon is Sirhan Sirhan's confession. But Sirhan was clearly in a state of hypnosis at the time that he, that he so-called conducted the assassination of Kennedy. And essentially, I mean, we know, for example, that. the LAPD, just like with JFK's assassination, the police department was actively trying to suppress any other witnesses to the crime that had a different story, right? So when, for example, other people said,
Starting point is 01:09:36 hey, initially at the moment, the assassination, there were other guns seen, and there was a woman in a polka dot dress that was seen running out from the room, and she had been saying, we got him, we got him excitedly. And this one lady... Well, I never heard that. In the hotel? Yeah, in the hotel.
Starting point is 01:09:58 And this one lady said, you know, you got who? And she goes, Kennedy, the senator. And then she runs off. And this gal related what she heard. And initially that night, if you want to get deep into this, Lisa Pease, who we interviewed, Lisa Pease is written a tomb on this book. I mean, she's worked on this for 30 years. I mean, going back for decades,
Starting point is 01:10:22 She's done research on the assassination. She's the best expert on it. But the night of the assassination, there was initially an APB put out that there was another shooter, that there was a second gunman. And they were looking for other people. And I think the Pocodot woman was mentioned. I can't recall, but there was definitely a mention of others involved.
Starting point is 01:10:43 So when that lady heard the Pocodot woman saying we got him, she reported out to the police. they then the police department then and two of the two of the cops that are basically tasked with convincing her that she is has false memory that she is remembering falsely that she is lying that yeah that's what they do and these guys were basically like they seem to have been part of CIA counterintelligence operations you know so their whole thing their whole game is to basically tell her and this is you know there's audio of this no you did not hear of that she's like yes I did no you can't you couldn't have heard that you know this
Starting point is 01:11:21 is what they do. They bully her for hours and hours until she basically gives up and says, fine, maybe you're right, and that's all they need. Okay, there's a doubt. All they need is planting a seed of doubt in her testimony, and that was it. So, you know, there was, anyway, so there were multiple shooters. I don't even know if it was just two. Other people saw what may have been a larger, a longer, a longer weapon that was wrapped up in a newspaper and that was carried out of the ballroom. It was complicated. It was a very messy thing.
Starting point is 01:11:53 I never heard any of this. There was another weapon carried out in a newspaper? Yeah. And the other thing was that there was probably two teams. So what's interesting is this, when Kennedy leaves the ballroom, he makes a choice to go through the kitchen, right? And that's where he gets killed in the kitchen.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Now, he could have gone in a different direction. And there was, but people spotted what they thought was Sirhan, in the other place. Why do they think they spotted Sierhan? Because there was a twin. Not a twin, exactly, but someone that was basically like Sirhan at the other location
Starting point is 01:12:30 because there was a second team because RFK was not going to get out of that hotel alive that night. So if he had gone either direction, there was a kill team waiting for him. Listen, I tell you guys this shit. Like, how lucky are you guys to work with me, dude? You guys are must be, you guys are so blessed.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Because I've been saying this forever. There are multiple levels ready on these high impact events that the target does not get out. They're like if the first team doesn't get it, the second team's waiting right there. Second team doesn't get third teams waiting right there, dude. You know, not to get too far off path. So I was watching this video on whatever this is last night with the guys. and we had Jim Leon talking about how weather manipulation can be direct energy weapons. And he talked on 9-11 how there was this giant hurricane outside of New York City.
Starting point is 01:13:29 I watched this video last night where a guy was in this whatever space station or something on 9-11 in the air. And they could see the smoke from where they were from New York City. And they were like, we could see the smoke. We hope they catch whoever did this. This is discussion. and whatever we can do to help. And the guy goes, and then they didn't even mention this. And bro, the video pans back.
Starting point is 01:13:55 And you guys cannot believe how big this hurricane was. I mean, it's the biggest. I've never seen a hurricane this big. It was sitting right outside of New York City. And in case, just in case? Well, it's like, you know, it's getting, not to get up too much off course, because what Sean's telling of his mind. mind blowing, but it's just another level.
Starting point is 01:14:20 It's like planes, missiles, whatever you want, bombs, and then... It was Hurricane Aaron with an E. Dude, it was huge. If you're on Twitter, you can find it, but it's not important to this conversation right now. But it's just levels, dude. So when he says this, it's mind-blowing, dude. So, okay, you ready for something? Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:41 So we're talking about hurricanes and the creation of weather, right? Manipulation of weather and all this stuff that they can do. do. So when I was on conspiracy theory, I talked about this. One of the phone calls I got, because over the course of that like three years, basically 2010 and 2012, I was getting like a whole number of phone calls. Some were very demonic and just distorted. And others were more clear. And it was like a voice like a man that I could actually understand what he was saying. And in 2011, I got a phone call like in summertime around, what was it, maybe like June? July time period. It was, they called and they said 55 days to blackout. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:15:24 okay, I don't know what that means. But this is the kind of cryptic stuff that they would pass along, right? And 55 days later, you had Sandy hit New York. And what did Sandy do? There was a huge blackout, especially the south side of the island, right? Like the power station right next where I lived actually, went out. And so, you know, was that, you know, was that the blackout that they were referring to, that they were basically telling me in advance, giving me advance information about? That's crazy, dude. That is crazy.
Starting point is 01:16:07 But I don't want to get off RFK. Dude, this is mind-blown because on the JFK assassination, we've done a whole episode on a long time ago and Tim Foll hat. Two Oswalds. There were two Oswalds there that day. And then you get into the like, and I don't believe the Trump shooting. This is Sam speaking.
Starting point is 01:16:27 I don't believe the Trump shooting. But how they had three different suspects who all looked exactly alike. It's crazy, dude. The reason you don't believe Trump because if they wanted to, they could have, right? That's like we get into this. It's like there's layers, dude.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Like if you look at a JFK assassination, You know, and you study that. There were like South American and Cuban assassin squads there. Like half the plaza, I say it all the time, but it's like a John Wick movie where like they put the hit out on John Wick and everybody in the plaza is sitting there drinking coffee, their phones go off and they're all assassins, right? You don't get out of there, dude. You don't get out of there.
Starting point is 01:17:13 If they want you done, you do not get out of there. There were multiple levels where the multiple shots coming everywhere. You don't get out of there, dude. And when you hear there's two Sir Hans, Sir Hans, oh my God. That is crazy. And it's just consistent. Boom, boom, boom. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Well, it wasn't Sir Hans, Sir Hans. Oh, just to make the correction, I was Hurricane Irene in 2011. Sandy was 2012. We don't fact check here. We believe whatever you say. But as far as the two years, you're honest, yeah, the point being that they looked enough of alike and were dressed enough alike that people confused them later and thought, you know, they had seen them because there was most likely two teams. And that's how you would do it, right? You would have, you know, you would have, you know, two teams in the ready because if RFK had gone in the other direction, you're going to get him. So when they, you know, and the most point, I think the most important point being who is the easiest person to kill someone is the person directly in behind them. Now this is the most important evidence that we have with the RFK. thing and this is why you know you always still look at forensics you know the charlie kirk thing is no different look at the forensics does the forensics add up does it make sense in the case of rfk
Starting point is 01:18:24 it was done by noguchi who was a very good um what do they call you know uh what's the word for the uh the coroner basically right he says that the bullet most likely came from about an inch but basically like one to like half an inch to one inch behind the the right ear, right? So that kill shot is exactly where it could have been the security guard who had RFK by the, was holding his left arm, sorry, he was holding RFK's right arm with his left, right? So he was right on RFK's right side. Now, he could have shot because we know that he pulled his gun and no one ever checked to see if the gun had fired any bullets that day. The sheriff, the LAPD, no one checked the gun. He pulled the gun and no one knows if it was fired or not.
Starting point is 01:19:15 So he could have shot him or he could have held him and someone else could have taken the shot. But the point was that the bullet came from all from behind, all the bullets that hit Kennedy. It was what, three or four bullets that hit Kennedy all came from behind him. And Sirhan was always about six feet in front and right away as soon as Searhon started firing. Almost immediately after firing, what, like one, two, maybe at most three shots, the gun was put up into. the air and he was wrestled and everything else was fired away and that's why it's impossible that Sirhan and again like you go into the number of bullets in the gun i can't remember exactly how many were in the gun but the number of bullets that were found as far as people hit and then
Starting point is 01:20:02 actually like bullet entries into the wall was more than could than were in his gun um whoa yeah i mean it's it doesn't add up none of nothing adds up to sirhan being the assassin or even if he was a assassin, not being the lone assassin in that case. But again, it's a nice, easy story for everyone to digest and say this guy's a nut. And just like with Tyler Robinson, you know, it's a nice, easy story, he's a nut. And don't look over here or there or question the motivations of others who might want that person dead. It is crazy. This is crazy, dude.
Starting point is 01:20:39 And then you get into John Lenz assassination and how, what was the assassin's name, John? Donnie? Mark David Chapman. Mark David Chapman. Again, three, three names. And, you know. I will say the news does that so that they're not liable if there's a lot of Mark Chapman's. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:20:59 So at a newspaper, if somebody commits a crime, you put a third name. You identify them as specifically as possible. Respect on that. Okay. So, you know, about how he would just get calls in his hotels and just like they couldn't tell who he's talking to. And they were like, are there trigger words being said on the phone? Because Mark David Chapman would go on trips around the world that he could not afford to go on.
Starting point is 01:21:28 And then you get into the YMCA, which he was a big part of, and how there's a lot of belief that these YMCA's were actually CIA fronts to help a destabilize Latin America and all over the world. and how he was working in these these these YMCA's all over the place traveling around and no one understood how he could afford it and Lennon a guy that we know the government had a hard on for just rocked blue too hard watch the U.S. versus John Lennon it's all about how the government tried to get him deported for years and years just like Manson how many times did he let him out too oh that's a crazy one dude too I mean more stuff coming out The Manson story, I'd read The Manson Files, an amazing book. I think Manson had more to do less to do with what the people think it was and more to do with a drug burn or a drug, you know, drugs gone bad, but there was some surveillance of that network that Polanski's Polish buddy was setting up with MDMA and Jay Subpresebring was a major drug dealer. And that whole thing was under surveillance. So the Manson story is not a cult leader sending somebody to kill people.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Yeah. It's more likely that drug burn got ugly because you saw a similar situation with the Wonderland murders, you know, with the massacre at the Wonderland House because of drug. You know, people on drugs are stealing drugs. There's a lot of weapons. There's a lot of murder. It's very common. And anyway, the Manson thing, it's all crazy because Manson is. protected at some level. He, you know, he, he thinks he's mafia protected. He insinuates it all the
Starting point is 01:23:14 time. I mean, it's just there's some weird stuff going on. Mafia, CIA. I mean, all that merges, as you know, in that time period. So, especially because of the drug trafficking. That's what CIA and mafia were doing together since the 40s and 50s. They were trafficking drugs, right? That's what we know about Luciano's, you know, the deal Luciano got after, you know, he helped America during the Second World War. Thereafter, you know, the various mafia networks were kind of protected, if not before, but certainly after, by intelligence. And certainly during the Vietnam era, Air America's, you know, flying drugs and, you know,
Starting point is 01:23:53 the CIA's all over, you know, all their guys are all over that operation, bring drugs from the Golden Triangle. And then, you know, cocaine later from Latin America. we're always working, they remember the cocaine coup, where we're supporting the, the, the, the, people that are basically backing cocaine in Bolivia and countries like this. I mean, the drug, Escobar was CIA, dude, for a long time. And then, you know, there always gets this moment where it's like, I'm a real boy, you know, and then they're like, nah. Noriega was CIA for sure. Escobar was probably protected.
Starting point is 01:24:28 I think he was protected. I think he had photos apparently of like with Bush, at least if not with Bush senior than when, and maybe even with junior, but that point was that Escobar was protected. And then at a certain point, the protection, you know, you shift alliances, right? You decide this guy's not worth it.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Whatever happens, right? You take out one guy. You take out, you know, Escobar, but the Cali cartel stays in power and rises, it gets more powerful. So it's like, you know, it's like choosing. It's like choose, basically you're in charge of picking which guy you're going to back.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Bro, that's stuff about the Pocod lady. You know what that reminds us? me of the Vegas shooting. Do you remember when they said that there was a woman running around the concert going and you're all going to die tonight? Wow. That reminds me. I dated a girl who was at that concert and she was traumatized by it, but she was very clear.
Starting point is 01:25:22 She goes, there were multiple shooters. She goes, we were running and she mentioned helicopters and that they were shooting coming from different directions. Like she was really clear about it. that there was shootings coming from different she thought it may have been coming from one of the helicopters but definitely from different directions
Starting point is 01:25:41 than that one place because she's like we were running from it and it wasn't getting away it was coming at us from different angles. That's crazy dude. You remember how the coroner was like oh we can't show you the bodies? You're like you can't show us the autopsies.
Starting point is 01:25:55 You're like why? Because they're going to show you that the gunfire was coming from different directions. The top. And then all these witnesses just like JFK started fucking dying. Oh, it's crazy, bro. And it's crazy that they would just slaughter a bunch of people to push a narrative.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Yeah, there was no Netflix documentary, no Hulu documentary. Usually they jump on this shit with these murders or like, oh, let's make a documentary. Let's make it an eight-part series, nothing. You can't. You can't. It's too sensitive. I mean, it's like, yeah, you can talk about serial killers and stuff until you talk
Starting point is 01:26:32 about serial killers that are like connected to cults that are involved with the intelligence community like programmed to kill gets into that stuff that's a great book um not saying that everything in it is fact is is like factually 100% true but the facts are there that lead you to the to the enough evidence that you start to wonder are these guys involved with operations right like actual okay like let's say okay let's say you're you're murdering let's say you're murdering people for adrenachrome, right? Or like, you know, some level of human sacrifice. What's the best fall person? Oh, we just got the serial killer and the serial killer is going to take the fall. That was the story in Belgium. So I got best kept secret, right? Best kept secret at docket series I did.
Starting point is 01:27:24 One of the things we get into is the true case, Mark Dutroux, right? Yeah. The roof was the fall guy for an occult network. And this is why they couldn't bust him. I mean, literally, there were people saying that, like, this guy should be suspected. And girls died because the police didn't do a thorough investigation of him. But they were, like, basically caged up in his basement. And, like, they, you know, they said, like, whatever, he was clean.
Starting point is 01:27:48 They just dismissed him. So girls died as a result of this. But essentially, he was a fall guy for a network that it's a complex. This is an ugly story, but that was basically they were trafficking pedophilia for young, you know, young kids, mostly. I think it was mostly girls in that case, but probably boys too. And then when they were like killing them, they would have to true, either they would have him kill them or they would turn him over basically like he would take the fall. Like they, I think they would, they would turn them over to him basically to have his way with them and he would end up killing them. But essentially he was the intricately connected with that network.
Starting point is 01:28:26 And I came up with the name of his partner. It was a big fat guy that Anna K. Lucas, who has her own testimony and has written her own book about her experiences being trafficked into that network as a young girl. She also identified that man as one of the predators that forced her in situations to basically have kids kill other kids as part of the psychological manipulation to keep you, quiet, right? So if you're part as networks, like one of the ways that they keep you from talking is they have you committing crimes. And that's why people go like, why won't people talk about it? Well, listen, if you're a kid and you've been raped and molested and maybe you've had been forced to like even kill another kid, I'm going to go and talk and be like, yeah, I did this stuff. No, it's going to shut you up. So this is how they do it in the way, like to keep people quiet is to have
Starting point is 01:29:19 everyone be so guilty. Yeah, jump you into a gang. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, you want to go down a race. Abbott home or have Austin Picard come on. He just did Jake Shields discussion about this, but dude, William Gacy, the William Wayne Gacy, that thing's way more. John Way Casey.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Sorry, Johnny. Thank you. With the Democrat Party, right? I mean, that's the daily network. Well, yeah, it gets into the Odyssey network and basically John Wayne Gacy was like the end of this trail they would send you through.
Starting point is 01:29:54 You go through this network. And when you were either just two shish kebobbed or just aged out, send you to Gasey, and it was over. And it's crazy because the FBI shut all that down. His trial is literally, if you study the John Wayne Gasey trial, it's literally him and the prosecutor, the prosecutor in defense, arguing over whether he worked alone or not. It wasn't even whether he was guilty or not. It was whether he worked alone or not because they didn't want to even get into it. It's like a really crazy case.
Starting point is 01:30:27 The first thing he said when he got busted, he mentioned another guy. He's like, oh, are you getting that guy too? I mean, he literally was pointing to like his accomplices right away and they didn't want to hear it.
Starting point is 01:30:37 I mean, so much of this, that's why people, it's like it's so corrupt. The system is so corrupt. And they want, you know, either it's sometimes it's laziness,
Starting point is 01:30:44 like, hey, it's just easier to make a case against one person. Yeah. More likely, it's like there's a mixture of laziness and also like,
Starting point is 01:30:52 hey, you know, we can't go after this person because that person's connected to this person. Yeah. A phone call, so don't go there. But, I mean, again, you just don't know what's real. I mean, like the Boston Strangler story, right?
Starting point is 01:31:03 Like, more recently, we've seen books and the movie that came out called Boston Stranglers, basically saying, like, the whole Boston Strangler story, that guy basically was fed the story in prison, made money off of the, like, he basically, like, made money off of, like, his autobiography or the lawyer did, and, like, he basically just, he loved the glory of, like, being the Boston Strangler. But he was just presiding what he had been told. old, it was most likely he didn't kill anyone. That is crazy. Remember when that guy came forward about like he killed John Bonnet Ramsey and he didn't
Starting point is 01:31:35 and he was just wanted the glory and the attention? Yeah. Crazy, dude. The John Bonnet story, we also get into a best kept secret and that I think you have to look at where she was the night before she died and the Christmas party of the guy. That's a weird one. Oh, you're right. Yeah, yeah, they go to a Christmas party.
Starting point is 01:31:57 They come back home. Then there's some, they get into argument. And that's when they say the kid hits her in the head. There's a hole and then eats her. Something about eating milk with pineapple. It's a whole thing because she didn't digest it. Yeah, it's so crazy because they, who was that? What party was it?
Starting point is 01:32:13 Yeah, watch the Best Kept Secret series. We get into like the suspicion around whether or not the father was pimping, essentially maybe in the mother too. Because the mother, the mother consciously are on. unconsciously some people think that she was herself a mind control victim and basically like she would go into altered states but the one is the parents seem to have been involved with trafficking the daughter through these um pageants you know these pageants right it's almost like a way to advertise uh and the one of the the guy i can't remember his name but
Starting point is 01:32:55 he basically had the party that they went to the night before she died there's a lot of suspicion around who he was a lady came forward like within the months after jean banay's death and basically alleged that as a child that guy had basically uh prayed upon her when she was a kid and so like i said we touch upon all this stuff and the best kept secret because there's just weird networks around it like the whole john benet thing i mean you know you think about who the father was he was deeply connected to the military industrial complex um but like none of the protocol was followed with this investigation and even just like the way that the body was like half-fasurly discovered in the house it was just it just the whole thing
Starting point is 01:33:42 reeked and then there's that weird-ass picture of john benet and um jeslaine maxwell oh yeah yeah that's a weird ass picture that's that's the question is that jeline i'm It looks like Jelaine. But I don't know if we know we can't validate that it's Shalayan. And how about that one girl in Europe that goes missing? That's a giant story. And all the suspects involved look like the Podestas and just Lane Maxwell. It's really fucking weird.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Podesta is a weird one, huh? They're all weird. Do you see the emails that just came out of his where he was having contact with people about zero point energy and anti-gravity research? Yeah. He was just, he was plugged into so much stuff that I find it, because do you think that part of him was just fabricated the part where he seemed genuinely inquisitive about UAPE and, like, I hate that we call him about. No, I mean like Hillary Clinton talked about Gilgamesh. I mean.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Well, I don't, I have my doubts about that. Because that's one of those emails, right, that was like submitted as a tip to Epstein, that's in the Epstein files, right? Yeah, I get it. I get it. It's just weird. Her sacrificing chickens to Mollock. Yeah, I've heard dark shit about that, that woman, dude. Oh, yeah, there's plenty about her.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Have you guys seen, have you guys seen the Frazzle Drip video? Because I've talked to people that say they have and they're pretty horrified by what it's so dark. I mean, they're just, I don't even like talking about it. It makes me so sad. Yeah, me too. It makes me so sad that there's fucking predators. If it's real, people need to see it. They need to know what they're dealing with the evil.
Starting point is 01:35:21 So these people are and they masquerade behind, you know, they're nice. I think it will get, their BIP escorts and the, you know, the attention and fame that they get. But I think one video like that would change the way we see reality. See, I think they're going to release it, dude, and they're going to make us think it's, they're going to tell us it's AI. I just think they're waiting to AI gets good enough. And they're going to be like, it's AI, dude. And then the idiot talking heads who are paid for are going to yell at everybody, you know, oh, it's fucking AI, dude. It's fucking AI.
Starting point is 01:35:53 and it's like Nick Flentes now is like doing another flip flop and now he's like defending TPSA and it's fine you do whatever you want Oh is he? Oh I haven't seen it. But he's like yeah they're going to come out the video Of him with a clear shot and everyone's going to yell it's AI That is the I'm like but you're like we're going to yell about it About a video nobody's seen it suddenly appears out of nowhere
Starting point is 01:36:16 Like a core yeah because we know that's the game plan But in the reverse of that the real videos they're going to try to convince you their AI. It's like that's a big part of pushing this out. It's a chaotic future with AI. It is a chaotic future, dude. It's a chaotic fucking future. Ma'am, great episode, dude.
Starting point is 01:36:36 You crushed it, Sean. There's a lot, right? Yeah, no, it's great, dude. You fucking killed it, dude. That was fire, dude. That was fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire episode. One more time, tell us where they can find you. Sean Stone. Info.
Starting point is 01:36:57 That's the best place because that has my links to my books, my documentaries, people can find my social media and my direct contacts and everything that's there. Well, dude, you're crushing it. Really honored to have you back on. I know it's been a while, so we've got to make sure we do this more often. And when you're in L.A., come to the studio. We'd love to have you in, dude. We'd love to have you.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Let's do it. Anytime, dude. Have us safe travels. Get back safely. You're an important person, so we're always glad you're on our side, fighting the fight. And let's break down the episode. All right, what did you guys think of the incredibly handsome? Sean Stone.
Starting point is 01:37:37 How much, is he married? Do we know? Handsome. I know where you're going with it. I mean, dude, that guy must imagine just if you bring your girlfriend and like he's there and he just starts talking about all the shit. And he shows up. Yeah, he just starts.
Starting point is 01:37:52 talking the way he talks, you're like, you're done. You're like, don't, don't fuck him all night. I don't want to wake up and you're coming home. I mean, dude, the guy's stunningly good. Done it all, too. Done it all. Well, I do find it very interesting that, like, a guy from Hollywood royalty is going into such murky waters of conspiracy.
Starting point is 01:38:15 I find that very cool. Yeah, I mean, it says a lot about his father, right, that he raised someone with an inquisitive mind. that didn't become just Hollywood scum, you know? Yeah, I think it's very cool. Like, he's talking about, I mean, like, to go into the paranormal like he is
Starting point is 01:38:31 is really cool, dude. And that stuff that he was talking about with that mental facility, I forget who it was that texting me, dude. I forget who it was the text in me. But they're like, what if the mental facilities for people like us that question everything?
Starting point is 01:38:47 I go, I 100% believe that, a lot of that, dude, that they just put all the people Eat like 100 flowers that China did. Hey man, for the next 100 days, say whatever you want. And then just round up everybody. Throw us all mental facilities. Maybe the Scientologists are right about psychology. Maybe, dude.
Starting point is 01:39:06 You know, it's like, dude, if the FEMA camps or anything like the Holocaust camps, they got pools, they got bands. Probably have some pickleboard. It'll be like Johnny's house. What if they turn your mansion? Pickleball? Pickleball. Pick a ball. I got you, Johnny.
Starting point is 01:39:23 Thank you. Thank you for cleaning up. Johnny, what if they turn your huge mansion into a FEMA camp and we all got to live there? How many could you fit in
Starting point is 01:39:31 Johnny's mansion if you really wanted to? Like, what do you mean by fit by side by side? Like if you were not living comfortably? If you were the owner of the concentration camp,
Starting point is 01:39:41 how many would you comfortably fit in? 100 people. 100 people. I'm not comfortable talking about concentration camps in my house. It's inappropriate. Johnny's place is fire, dude.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Fire. Would you call him? Pablo Escobar? His new little nickname, Pablo Escobar. Johnny Escobar. Johnny Escobar over here. Paying less than we were before, which is crazy. No, it is crazy.
Starting point is 01:40:06 You got that. Yeah, it's the market's in the shitter right now. Yeah. Oh, I mean, it's never, they just keep raising taxes. It's just going to get worse and worse. They're running everybody out. Yeah. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 01:40:20 It's, I mean. There's going to be 20. people here. It's going to be XG and a couple other fucking rich kids stuck here in California. Don't forget the Mexicans. We're not going anywhere. Yeah, you're not. You're like, we're just going to keep putting more family members in this one bedroom. Yeah, the Mexicans.
Starting point is 01:40:34 As long as we're getting afford it. Like, like, how many Mexicans would have lived in Johnny's fucking mansion? It would literally be a fucking burial. It's like, it's like when, you know, you find an old civilization and you're like, what is all this for? The Mexicans just come up from Mexico and move into L.A.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Like his people are like Aztecs. They'll move in the Johnny's house. Like we built this great temple to the gods. Hey, can you, okay, so we're calling him
Starting point is 01:41:01 with Johnny Escobar. Can we put a hippo in that bitch? Yeah, dude, there is room for a hippo. There's room for a fucking hippo? In the backyard. In the backyard. Have you ever seen that?
Starting point is 01:41:09 Hippos are dangerous. Have you ever seen the video where the alligator goes to bite the hippo? Dude, it is crazy. The alligator goes to bite the hippo and the alligator is so stupid. He doesn't realize
Starting point is 01:41:20 that that hippo opened its mouth and it just shuts on the on the alligator's whole beak or whatever that is fucking just falls off. It's a beak, yeah, a beak, right? Hey, hey, actually, you know what I'm thinking. This video is not real. Oh, it's definitely a AI video.
Starting point is 01:41:37 No, it's 100% real. Okay, bro. Shut up, Johnny. So was that monkey beating, uh, taking a baseball bat to an alligator's head in the middle of the African jungle? Hey, guys, if you guys, I think I found the video talking about. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Yeah, I can't wait to. I found the AI video. It's not an AI video. Is it this one? Oh, it's so, I feel so bad for the hippo. Yeah, this is it. Johnny, I found it. It's 100% fake.
Starting point is 01:42:05 You think this is fake? I can already tell it's fake. I can already tell it's fake. Look at this. Look at this. What idiot this guy is. It's the biggest fake thing I've ever seen. What?
Starting point is 01:42:17 You think that's fake, damn? What? That's Sam. If that's that's a shape. That's what that sounds when he's black. Go get Sam's TikTok. That's literally his reaction video. You don't think that's real, Johnny, you piece of shit?
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Starting point is 01:43:31 No, we just talk about for love of the game. We love to watch Dykes play basketball. It's really a pleasure. And all the people who listen to the show love it too. That's cash daddy. On YouTube does it say like it's peaking, right when you guys start talking about WMBA? Yeah, most popular part. Does it bring all the boys to the yard?
Starting point is 01:43:51 Yes, yes, yes. It's just a bunch of chicks that look like that run. Go down, Johnny. Chaos twins, hopefully we'll do something with it today. I keep trying, dude. T-shirts, dude, new t-shirts should be going up. I talked to him yesterday. I got to get that.
Starting point is 01:44:08 I got to buy, I got to get out some Francis Bacon. We should wear this one if he comes on, the fittest by, they're all three of us. Yeah, oh, that'd be so funny, dude. All of us wearing the shirt. That'd be so funny, dude. Fifteen bucks now, dude. Dude, we're just, I'm giving away.
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Starting point is 01:45:24 You should drop some Spanish in there. Go on. Yeah, Broken Sam is out. Listen to it. We talk about whether Russia killed Lindsey Graham. Also, the hippovia is fake. I've confirmed it. Johnny, you suck, dude.
Starting point is 01:45:37 I worry about you in the future. I worry about you in the future. When they really start using AI to fake stuff, you're going to believe all of it. Johnny, I don't believe any political stuff. I believe all animal stuff. That's my rule right now. All animal stuff. go to word war debate everybody word war debate that's right very excited about this big news we locked up our first debate can't tell you right now but we locked that up and we got some killer debates coming and then finally what is the other one did we have to talk about oh our youtube channel guys could you please subscribe we're trying to get over 60,000 can we bring cheerleaders to word war debate please I would
Starting point is 01:46:20 They wanted ring girls. I'm like, we're not doing ring girls. Wait, what, how's that a bad idea? I want a ring girl. Because it cheapens the show. You're going to piss off all the progressives. So we're going to do cheerleaders instead of ring girls. How about the woman on panel just wears something a little skimpy?
Starting point is 01:46:34 Dude, I suggest that they go in fucking lingerie and it got shut down. The debaters? Yeah. Even the guys. The guys in Twitter Lauderd. We got Victoria's secrets. Only trans. Only trans.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Only trans. Only trans. Only trans. What if we, do you think they left this would be cool if we had trans cheerleaders? That's the only way they'd be cool. But they're so on, you can't clock them. And we don't tell them too much later that they're trans. Like main cheerleader, like the main one is?
Starting point is 01:47:05 No, like trans chick cheerleaders. Yeah, like Blair White. Have we had that? You can't tell. Blair White. It's like, and even if it is, you're like, that's kind of hot. Has that come to the NFL? Gee.
Starting point is 01:47:16 Johnny laughs because he thinks that about Blair Wife. I laugh because of what you just said. You can't look at her and go, like remember Alex shows, I look at you, you're a beautiful woman. He was so confused. Has that happened to the NFL yet?
Starting point is 01:47:32 Has there been like a high-tech trans? No, but they love twinks. They love twinks. Yeah, that's weird, right? They just love twinks, dude. It's like insane. They love them. All right, guys, I mean, Sean Stone,
Starting point is 01:47:45 bringing the heat. John Stone. Dude, you and Nitty want to go into this fucking hospital and see some shit, don't you?
Starting point is 01:47:53 What is Nitty? What is Nitty? He's one of my co-hosts on. We don't smoke the same. You have another co-host? Yeah, and he really wants to go to a Skinwalker Ranch.
Starting point is 01:48:00 He's willing to pay for the rental and go and then he knows Sam's how, no Sam can get us in there, but it's this thing we're like, fuck around and find out, but I kind of want to fuck around
Starting point is 01:48:09 and find out. Yeah, but then you're going to bring some shit back here. Yeah, you're, look at this. This rock I found. It's just sitting here.
Starting point is 01:48:17 It's cool. They see you know this fucking place is cursed. You know, I would have bring something that someone says to me. Take this to tin for my head studios. Just leave it right under Sam's Ross. Right under Sam's chair. Okay. Ridiculous, dude.
Starting point is 01:48:32 All right, guys. Thanks for watching the show. Enjoy the highlights. Here's a clip from the latest broken sim. You know, they're saying that. But this Lindsay Graham thing's really crazy because now there's a conspiracy about how he died and when he died. That's what I want to talk about. Yeah. So he was in Ukraine and they say that the night
Starting point is 01:48:53 before he came back, he was at supposedly came back. If he came back at all is what we're. He was at a drone factory where they build these drones in Kiev that was struck by the Russians. Now, some people think maybe he never even left that drone factory and this everything after that was manufactured. So, so the whole. thing is like, okay, the official story, which right there, you start with the official story. And now you're like, okay, you know something's up. The official story is they had a heart attack in his house. Okay. Okay, Dana, what's the official story? Oh, God. Okay, she's saying he didn't have a heart attack. He's a order lining, which is a heart, right? Yes, yes. It goes to your heart.
Starting point is 01:49:44 Yeah, it's all the blood to your... Is it in the heart? It's the same thing. thing they got John Ritter. It's the aortic dissection. It's where the aorta splits off. It's yeah, it's Okay, so it's a heart attack adjacent. Can we say that? It's very rare. Okay, it's very rare. So the whole discussion is
Starting point is 01:50:02 and we don't need a peanut gallery to comment on everything. Daddy's cooking right now. We should say that it was caused by vascular disease is what they said. So yeah. Okay. So that's what they're saying, right? But the question becomes
Starting point is 01:50:18 If he had no wife, he had no kids, he was living alone. Who knew he had a heart attack? Yeah, I suppose, yeah. I mean, he seems like a fellow who might entertain. Yeah, that might be like, hey, do we haven't heard from ladybug in a while? Someone go to his house. See how he's doing. Yeah, he hasn't checked in.
Starting point is 01:50:36 And he's just dead on the floor, butthole out, just fucking dead. He hasn't checked in on the IDF discord. Yeah, grinders like traffic's down. Where's limsy crap? Do you see how grind? Like literally grinders stock went down. Really? Oh, that's funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:53 So anyways. So everyone's like, how would anyone know? So this X-CIA guy take that for what you will. Broke down the timeline. They say it's impossible for that to be the truth. So the new conspiracy is, well, there's two conspiracies, our good friends, are good friends at the big eye. You know what I'm talking about the big eye?
Starting point is 01:51:12 I do. I heard of it. Yeah. Okay. They had something to do with it to pull Trump in. I don't necessarily agree with that because he was one of their biggest supporters. They kind of need him. The other one is, is that he...
Starting point is 01:51:26 To make him think that, sorry, to make him think that Iran did it? Yeah, that's what they're saying. But now the one is it sounds more to me is that he got taken out during that Russian attack on the drone factory. And I'll just show you what I'm talking about here. This is being reported widely, but, Here are some photos. Gondam Zahel.
Starting point is 01:51:51 Lindsay Graham arrived in Kiev on Friday, July 10, likely in the evening. The following day, his birthday, his birthday. This is how he spent his birthday. Oh my God, dude. What if he died on his birthday? That's kind of cool. Yeah, wrap it up, man. Wrap it up.
Starting point is 01:52:06 We got a, like, you know, we got binders. Bang, dude. The following day, his birthday, he visited Zelenskyy, who wished him a happy birthday. Hi, Zelensky. So excited to be here. So excited. You look so great, baby. Baby, look at you.
Starting point is 01:52:23 Your sweaters are so nice. I do like to wear your dress. I don't care what Donald says about you not wearing a suit and tie. I think you look good. You're a tidy boy. He later visited the Skyfall drone facility. That's a Ukrainian slash EU slash U.S. drone manufacturing plant. He was also given a separate presentation on the capabilities of the Skyfall Academy.
Starting point is 01:52:45 I mean, it's literally out of James Bond. which trains pilots, technicians, and instructors to work with unmanned systems. The visit included a tour of production facilities, drone demos, vampire bombers. We get it. We get it. We get it. We get it. Graham was quoted praising the tech and calling for U.S. It's so fierce. It's so fierce. It's so much. Look at this thing. Look at he's holding one to drones. It looks like a BBC. Do you want to steal my nipples? Take a picture of me with this fucking hot, own. It occurred on the same day as other meetings. It's possible that Graham also had other
Starting point is 01:53:23 classified or unpublished stops officially after this busy schedule on his birthday. Graham quickly left Ukraine at sometime yesterday. Yeah, yeah. Flew to D.C. went to home conveniently and died conveniently. Drop at 830. Yeah. Perfect. Timing. The Reaper's like, I'm just going to, listen, I'm still waiting on Mitch McConnell. I'll wait to this guy gets home. Yeah. Yeah, here's someone who put it. Look at him holding that BBC. I bet you're going to sit on this. He's like, can I take one of these home?
Starting point is 01:54:04 No reason. Yeah, can I just, can I smuggle this? Yeah, and then there was a report. The Ministry of Defense says that drone production enterprises were hit in Kiev. So that boy, that's a hell of a coincidence, don't you think? That was news that came out of Moscow. Yeah, I mean, it's so hilarious. It's just the place he was at just got bombed and then he conveniently dies.
Starting point is 01:54:28 Yeah. He also much of what he talked about was Russia reinstalling or reinstating, sorry, many of the sanctions against Russia. And he thought that they were getting that over the finish line. And then he had this, this quote here. I don't know if this is from that meeting. But here you go. Free or time. Free or death.
Starting point is 01:54:48 Now you are free. Yes. And we will be. And the Russians are down. It's the best money we've ever spent. Thank you so much. Like, is this guy the biggest, was this guy the biggest piece of shit?
Starting point is 01:55:01 This is, this is why when people on the internet were like, dude, show some respect. He passed. The guy was a Neo-Con war hawk. I struggle with that because I don't think you should celebrate anyone's death, but it's like,
Starting point is 01:55:16 no, this guy was bad. You don't want to celebrate Stalin's death? You're like, come on, man. His kids. No, it's not about anybody else. It's about the effect it has on you as a human. I feel great, dude.
Starting point is 01:55:30 When I said, yeah, he's dead. My nipples got insely hard. They were vibrating. Something in my soul tells me that it's not good to do that. You're why we can't have nice things, Johnny, because everyone brings emotion. Again, I wouldn't say that. I would never say that to anybody except for me and you talking about it. And I would never, uh, what is she?
Starting point is 01:55:50 Okay, okay. I don't even read that. I'm getting fact-checked by somebody watching the home run derby, which is behind. I already know. Yeah. So Lindsey Graham is no longer with us. And I'm not, I'm not feeling bad about it, honestly. I'm celebrating it.
Starting point is 01:56:08 No, he really is a kind of a game of Thrones villain, though, you know, like this. 100%, dude. House power bottom. Lindsay Graham from House Powerbottoms here. Good day, Queen. Yes. Just a closeted gay guy who is... Sir Ladybug is here.
Starting point is 01:56:29 Hello. Operating in shadows, you know, pretending to be something he's not. And while he is... I just can't stop pounding puss, man. I'm just out here just pounding that puss. Just a nasty... Everyone in Ukraine is getting pregnant.
Starting point is 01:56:45 Tonight, am I Rizolinsky? Give me some of that cocaine. It's the nasty, violent man. No, with no. And the people in South Carolina that I talked to, many of them loved him. I'll never understand it. But he was a, you know, he was a. It's the same scumbags.
Starting point is 01:57:03 It's the same scumbags. It's the same scumbags that, talking about Epsteinism, Mossade, the same scumbags who were like, I saw 4K, IMAX, Dobey Digital sound video of Tyler Robinson doing it. I could see his nose hair is breathing. No. Is that clear? They And they're saying people like
Starting point is 01:57:23 Lizzie Graham was a patriot It's like F you My favorite part of Twitter Was people trying to guesstimate How many pineapples are being shoved up his ass right now in hell If you'd like to hear the rest of this episode Subscribe to Broken Simulation In your podcasting app
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Starting point is 01:57:54 That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind. Timfoil hack.

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