Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - 1009: Satan's Little Season, Tartaria & Conspiracy Brain Rot with JTFollowsJC

Episode Date: July 22, 2026

On the latest episode of Tin Foil Hat, the boys sit down with JTfollowsJC for a thought-provoking conversation on the growing brain rot infecting the conspiracy community and how distraction is pullin...g people away from the pursuit of truth. They explore the theory of Satan's Little Season, the mysteries of Tartaria and hidden history, and dive deep into the worlds of magic, occultism, and demonology. It's a wide-ranging discussion that challenges popular narratives and examines the spiritual forces many believe are shaping our reality.   Please subscribe to the new Tin Foil Hat youtube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/@TinFoilHatYoutube   Sam Tripoli's 5th Crowd Work Special "Hero Live From Batavia" Drops May 2nd On Youtube.com/SamTripoliComedy   Grab your copy of the 2nd issue of the Chaos Twins now and join the Army Of Chaos: https://bit.ly/415fDfY   Check out Sam "DoomScrollin with Sam Tripoli and Midnight Mike" Every Tuesday At 4pm pst on Youtube, X Twitter, Rumble and Rokfin! Join the WolfPack at Wise Wolf Gold and Silver and start hedging your financial position by investing in precious metals now! Go to https://www.samtripoli.gold/ and use the promo code "TinFoil" and we thank Tony for supporting our show.   Grab Tickets To Sam Tripoli's Live Shows At SamTripoli.com: Miami, Fl: 7/31-8/1 Lawerence, KS: 9/17-9/19 Tulsa, OK: 10/9-10/10 Dallsa, Tx: Nov 7th (TrutherCon) Austin, TX: Dec 11th-13th   Please check out Word War Debate and the WordWarDebate Contenders Series: https://wordwardebate.com Please check out JtlovesJc's Internet: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jtfollowsjc TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jt_follows_jc?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JTFOLLOWSJC     Please check out Sam Tripoli's internet: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Sam Tripoli's Stand Up Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@SamTripoliComedy Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy/%20P Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/   Please support our sponsors: Quo: Quo is the #1-rated business phone system on G2 with over 3,000 reviews, built for how modern teams work. That's why more than 90,000 businesses – from solo operators to growing teams – rely on Quo to stay connected, professional, and consistently reachable.  Make this the time where no opportunity – and no customer – slips away. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to Quo dot com slash TINFOIL. That's Q-U-O dot com slash TINFOIL. Quo - no missed calls, no missed customers. Taskrabbit: Taskrabbit connects you with trusted local Taskers for moving, furniture assembly, home repairs, yard work, mounting, and more. Easily find help based on price, skills, availability, and reviews. Get $15 off your first task with promo code TINFOIL on the Taskrabbit app or at Taskrabbit dot com. Book today before Taskers fill up! Cloaked: Cloaked protects your privacy with data removal, burner emails and phone numbers, dark web monitoring, a built-in VPN, password manager, and more. Get a free security scan and 30% off any plan at Cloaked.com/TINFOIL. Privacy isn't dead. It's Cloaked.  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 See so much stupid out there where I'm not sure if this is people just chasing clicks and likes in the money or if it is actual feds. We get associated with the craziest people in our spaces and I think that's intentional. I think that that makes sense that if you do believe in a dark force that kind of controls the world the way it is, the way it is now, that of course if certain people are revealing truth in this space, of course the enemy is not a complete moron. And so he's going to infiltrate the conspiracy space and make it stupid and gay and retarded. Oh, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Welcome to tinfoil half. We go deep, home boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional chicken. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning.
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Starting point is 00:01:49 There are always nothing, bobb-bangers, dude. Good times. Please welcome J.T. loves J.C., follows J.C., excuse me. J.T. follows Jayce. It's close enough. It's good. I'm doing well.
Starting point is 00:02:01 And you do love them, no. You do love them. So it kind of works. Yeah, it does. How are you, bud? I'm doing excellent. I'm enjoying this journey, doing podcasts, and also hating all the conspiracy slop that we're dealing with these days, too. There's a lot of slop out there, dude.
Starting point is 00:02:20 A lot of slop. I will tell you that we feature your clips a lot on doom scrolling. Your Instagram videos are really. really well put together, well done, and they make it to the wheel all the time. So, and everyone really enjoys them. So congrats on that. Where can they find you? Well, if you like to listen to podcasts, you can check out my YouTube channel, JT. Falls, J.C.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Or if you like to listen, Apple, Spotify, speaker, wherever you can find podcasts, look up JT's mixtape. And, of course, if you're looking for social, all the socials, you can look up JT. Falls, JC, or I go by my full name over on Facebook, which is Joe Telford. Pretty much everywhere. I want to get into something before we get into the conspiracy slop. There is a effort out there. And I bring this up to everybody who's a Christian on the show. And I don't believe it, just so you know. But I always like asking people who've done very deep dives into the sigh up of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:03:20 What is your thoughts on that? It's on the darkest, darkest edges of conspiracy. I get called all of it. Oh, you believe in Jesus. Jesus, what do you know? I'm like, please stop. But what are your thoughts on that? I mean, I guess it's like, well, I mean, a lot of people say lots of things. I mean, I don't know that there's anybody who's any well-read person or respected in any field, whether conspiracy or otherwise, who says that Jesus did not exist. I mean, I think there's a lot of historical evidence to say that he does.
Starting point is 00:03:52 And I would say that the iconography and the stamp that Christ has put on this world is undeniable. So, I mean, it's kind of like that, where do you even start with a person like that? It's like if you've seen all the other evidence and you reject the idea that he was a real person, historical figure, well, I can't really help you. I mean, I'm not going to change your mind about that. I mean, the real question comes down to, you know, there's a great book by Lee Strobel called The Case for Christ. And it comes from like a, maybe atheist skeptics view. And it's proving him outside the Bible. And then basically what you're left with is, was he who he said he was?
Starting point is 00:04:28 which I think exactly how it would be is that, you know, because you don't, without faith, there's no salvation if you're a Christian. So it takes a certain amount of faith and belief in this. But I mean, Jesus is the historical figure. Like I said, only lunatics say he didn't exist. It's interesting to me that there's, that people are saying that when I find that people who tend to get closer to God and have faith, their life. seems to get better. Like most of your sciops send you down avenues
Starting point is 00:05:04 that make your life worse. Right? Like getting the the Jackson, you know, feminism, communism. Like we just go down the list of things where people go down that road and they seem really freaking miserable.
Starting point is 00:05:24 You know, when it's, because I'm in recovery, I watch people come in. as wild people and then start to understand a higher power and understand God and their life tends to stabilize. Not that they're perfect and being stable doesn't mean you don't have chaotic moments in your life because there are chaotic moments in this realm that we live in wherever there's always, and I always say God has always given you challenges to learn how to how to deal with
Starting point is 00:05:56 situations because something bigger down the line is coming on. That's my 100% belief. So I've never like it's the weirdest sigh up I've ever seen in my life if if they want you to believe that. That's something this thing that isn't real actually makes your life better. Right. Yeah, 100%. That's why I always tell people that whether you believe or you don't believe, like if I believe Christ has transformed me and with his core messages that you need to love God with all your heart and how you do that is love your neighbor as yourself. So it's about like denial of self. It's denial of like the fleshly things of the world and doing more things for others and not
Starting point is 00:06:37 being so selfish. So how am I wrong if that's what I believe? And that's how I live. Because I just know just on just the practicality of in my own life experience, when I've chose myself, I end up miserable. Like the excess of the things that I want, the things that I think that would make me happy, never do. And it really is just like a, it's like the Chinese finger trap, right? Like you think that pulling away from it will actually get you out of it, but actually you have to go
Starting point is 00:07:06 the opposite way. So like when you focus on yourself so much, you focus on your own problems, they get bigger and it gets frustrating and you get more anxious. But when I focus on other people and what I could do for them, then my problems seem smaller. And it gives me more, I don't know, there's a lot more light. And I, you know, I think that I also have an optimism about the world, I'm not completely, totally jaded about things, even though this place can make you very cynical. But if I have a higher power and a higher hope of things I can't see, it allows me to know that regardless of circumstances, everything will be okay. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you. That's the core of recovery, too. It's like, get out of self, help others. Why do you go through the steps?
Starting point is 00:07:51 You go through the steps so that you can take someone else through the steps. And that's what's all about. meetings aren't even about you anymore. It's really about you helping the guy who has one day that doesn't understand how he can get two days. And you see you and you're like, I was a train wreck and I have three years. Then people are like, oh, fuck, I can do that. This fucking crazy person can do it. So that's the core of it. That is the core of and, you know, it gets back to my opinion that, you know, the game of life is helping others.
Starting point is 00:08:24 that's really what help helping others achieve their goals you know abundance over scarcity giving it away money opportunity time energy that is the key to everything and there's people in my life that i've seen given so much to so many other people and you know the culture and a society wants to take them down and they just can't do it because they've helped so many people over so long many, over so many years. There's like a force of light around them. And I think it's true. I've never seen anybody who gives, gives away everything that life doesn't go, doesn't get much better. I've never seen it ever in my life. It's the weirdest sigh up. I think the biggest thing that they're trying to say is that it's like somehow pacifies you, not to take action. I guess the,
Starting point is 00:09:16 I guess the truth is that lots of people talk real tough online, especially when they talk about like, a potential next pandemic and they say what they'll do and then we got guns and we'll do this and we'll do that i think most of those people are just full of it i think that ultimately we know i'm sure as you guys have researched all the things that i've researched that like the surveillance grid all the system all the walls seem to be closing in and so like if you look at it like that it's it's so bleak but i think that again this is not all that there is and i think you have to believe that i have I think you have to believe that, you know, because otherwise you are just chasing money and you're chasing self. And you're chasing things that you could be, you could lose in a blink of an eye.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And so if you have like real purpose, then to me it's, again, it's a more hopeful thing because I don't know that they were going to fight our way out of this, like physically. I mean, if it comes to that, we'll see. But I mean, if it doesn't, then I think that this is like a, the slowly cooking of the frog. If there was a time to fight, it was probably a minute ago. It was a while ago. Real quick, first of all, your studio is wonderful, dude. You got a great setup. It looks good.
Starting point is 00:10:32 You mentioned conspiracy slop. Where do you want to go with that? I don't know. I guess I don't know if it's just me getting a little more grown up in this space. Like, you do it for a minute, and you see so much. stupid out there where I'm not sure if this is people just chasing clicks and likes in the money or if it is actual feds. But I think from a lot of people's perspective is that we get associated with the craziest people in our spaces and I think that's intentional. I think that makes sense
Starting point is 00:11:07 that if you do believe in a dark force that kind of controls the world the way it is the way it is now, that of course if certain people are revealing truth in this space, Of course, the enemy's not a complete moron, so he's going to infiltrate the conspiracy space and make it stupid and gay and retarded. You know, I like a lot of stuff that Candace is doing. I understand that there are things that might cause a little apprehension or outright just questioning the validity of what she's doing. I like what she's doing. I think she's more right than she is wrong. I have very good friends who disagree with me on that.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And they bring up some good points too. I don't think they're wrong. I think, you know, to me, she's the female Alex Jones. And she... Oh, interesting. She reaches the female side of the equation where Alex was very heavy male. And men were behind it. And she's female, and the females have gone.
Starting point is 00:12:15 behind her. She makes yourself a little harder to dismiss, too, in her approach, just in her general like demeanor. Well, I would tell you that she comes into time where we're a lot more accepting of certain things compared to what Alex was saying way, but, you know, the frogs are gay. And you're like, okay, and he turned out they are putting chemicals and everything that makes everybody. He's right.
Starting point is 00:12:35 So, but then when it was said, it was seen as so crazy, except for his most loyal fans are like, he's always right. So I, I mean by like the smooth brains, you know, the regular. people like for a black woman to with you know who's who is incredibly clever listen to black women white women love saying that she's like a combination between Oprah and Alex Jones
Starting point is 00:12:57 yeah there we go yes that's exactly I think that's great and it's a perfect studio like my girl watches it and she's like it's the vibes she gives good vibes it's a girl thing it's a vibe thing she just instantly women are all about vibes she wants to listen to Candace now because of the look because I'm pretty sure if it was Ron
Starting point is 00:13:13 and she's like it's not a good look there's no pink and she loves how it's clean, perfect. It's Candace's vibe. It's like why women love the cheesecake factory. It's like the food isn't mind-blowing, but the vibe is amazing. Right? It's like, take her to a vibe. Yeah. Any place that has a menu that it could really break your toe if it fell on your foot, like you don't want to eat at that place. There's no way you can be that good at cooking a giant menu like this. That's interesting, Johnny. I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:13:41 But the vibe is like phenomenal. It's like a visually. stimulating. But, you know, my friends who are critical of her is saying that her job is to bring in everybody and then say crazy shit. And then you kind of get people not known if they're coming or going. And I go, well, I mean, I think that's every. I think that's everybody. You're not everybody is smart enough and has a good enough bullshit meter to know. And I don't know if I'm behind that. It's either I totally reject it or I totally accept it. Most people, that's why everything is broken down into such digestible shit. The more it's digestible, the more people will listen to it.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Like I've been saying about stand-up comedy is now they're doing children's entertainment for adults. That's really what comedy is right now. It's like the most basic bitch shit because that's how you get the most fucking people. So I do find it interesting. Is there anything specific that's really gotten you, like, gotten you, like, upset? Well, no, I guess it's like the Candace thing is actually really interesting because when I first started making videos like late 2021, the stuff that I was talking about seemed so insane to any person that I ever grew up with,
Starting point is 00:15:03 anybody in my family, they all thought he's gone way off the deep end. I mean, the truth is a lot of the conspiracy stuff I was looking at is really actually pretty basic now. that I was talking about. Like the code in the movies, the symbolism between like on the magazine covers and all the the celebrities. But then you have, and I want to say it was, was it probably 2023 maybe when Tucker Carlson was talking about the Nephilim.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And then I listened to a show like Candace Owens. And she's talking about stuff that we've been talking about for five years. And we were being called insane for talking about it. I mean, so a lot of people, as soon as we bring up Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson, and they scream Operation Mockingbirds, sigh up, it's all fake. And the truth is I'm not naive enough to believe that people like that aren't controlled
Starting point is 00:15:51 to a certain extent. But I've always said, well, it's still significant if they're saying things that are true and they're getting a totally different audience than ever I could have reached. And especially it was funny, like my dad, he got to experience me learning a lot of things in real time
Starting point is 00:16:07 and he would just be rolling his eyes. And I can't imagine what he would be thinking if he was hearing. Tucker Carlson say exactly what I told him four years ago or five years ago. So I think it's, I mean, I think honestly I think it's cool. I mean, I do think that with any good sci-up,
Starting point is 00:16:23 there is a certain degree of truth in it. So they've got credibility that certain people like, unfortunately, I don't have. I mean, with certain people, I have more credibility. Right. It would be more the reach than the credibility. They have more reach than you. They have more reach than me. I mean, it's
Starting point is 00:16:39 just the way it is. But I don't know, I think you're pretty credible, but I totally understand what you're saying. No, what I'm saying is like even in the Bible, it says that a prophet's not received in his own town, right? So Christ is getting denied by the people who he grew up around because he can't be this certain person because we know him. We know his family. And they know all your warts and they know all your past. So if I say it, they'd just be like, well, he really wasn't a very good student. He's never really been that smart.
Starting point is 00:17:07 And of course he's wrong about the things he's saying now. But if Tucker is saying it, it's like, oh my gosh, he's actually, we saw him on Fox News. He's very intelligent. We've seen Tuck. We've seen Candace on all these big shows. But the funny thing is about like the whole like Charlie Kirk investigation. I think this is kind of where it gets like closer to me because so many people in my audience, as soon as we start talking about Charlie Kirk, Erica Kirk, TPA, USA and all that stuff,
Starting point is 00:17:34 they won't even, they wouldn't even entertain the idea that it was actually a real event at all. like that the 100% Charlie Kirk is living on some island he's in Valhalla and we are part of the siop so like I get called a Freemason now because I do think he's dead and I could be wrong about that I honestly I thought the Trump the ear thing I thought that was real at first but then when I learned more information I said you know what that that probably was fake when I found out the photographer that photographed George Bush while he's reading like my pet goat yeah yeah when he just learned about the towers being attacked was the same guy who caught the magic bullet in the air. Yeah. It was hidden his ear. I was like, okay, all right, I'm sorry, guys. I was wrong. Now that I saw he's got no
Starting point is 00:18:21 marks on his ears or anything like that. I'm, I was wrong. I mean, I think that that's what I like to be able to do is be able to say, hey, this is what I think right now. If I'm presented with better information, I could change my mind. But if I think it was real now, and maybe later I'll change my mind, maybe I'll be presented with something that's compelling that he is still a lot. well then I'll change my mind but we can't even talk about certain things like this on my podcast because everybody is yelling fed in the comments because I think it was real but I don't believe what I don't believe what I don't believe what you know what all these is behind us people on TikTok if you if you if you're questioning a narrative that's that the listen obviously you know we get
Starting point is 00:19:06 into this whole thing with like the only way you can pass anti-Semitism laws is if there's anti-Semitism everywhere. We've heard this a lot about how, you know, there's paid people to stoke the fires of anti-Semitism. Not saying every one of them is it. I'm saying there are questionable motives to the whole thing and that, you know, that that would be part of the process, you know, the non-linear warfare, paying both sides to go kind of crazy. The one thing for me is that, you know, when it comes to Tucker Carlson or to Candice Owens, is that, you know, what are their numbers? The people that really, really get it wrong.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Now, you, again, your fans are like, hey, dude, I disagree with you. That's one thing. Then there's the presentation of a narrative over and over and over again, which most people in the space, even if you're in the kiddie pool section of the space, knows it's not true. Example, Ben Shapiro, right? Ben Shapiro has certain blind spots because he's paid to be there and it's part of his heritage that has cost him to lose so much of his fan base. Like, if your numbers keep good, if you're in the, in the true space, in the news space, and you're constantly lying, your numbers go down.
Starting point is 00:20:37 And we've seen that with the mainstream media. And now we're seeing it with a bunch of people pushing certain narratives on the internet that they're losing their fan base at a record level. And but Tucker and Candice, and again, they could be controlled. I don't know, dude. I don't know them on a personal level. I have friends of mine that are very big that when people go, oh, they're controlled up and I have crazy conversations with them in in in the areas that we like to talk about and I go you
Starting point is 00:21:08 don't know them I know them I'm not saying it's him it couldn't have happened but I go it's very unlikely that happens but if you're constantly lying to your crowd and constantly on the wrong side of the argument like a great example right now is jack prosobic right like he's putting out a narrative or a story that everyone knows is unless you're completely invested into one side of the discussion, everyone knows is a lie. And his brand is just getting murdered right now. Like he literally 9-11 to his career.
Starting point is 00:21:44 You know, like it's like it's free falling on top of itself. And he's going to lose a big following. Dan Bongino, you know, a great example of a guy who was like top of the game, said one thing, did another. And now he's losing his fan base because he keeps. BSing his audience. So, you know, for me, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I state things. I talk to people. They, the fans don't necessarily agree with. I'm not saying all of them, but some of them. But I think they understand that, like, over time, over, if you judge me on the body of my work,
Starting point is 00:22:20 I've been more right than I've been wrong. And, you know, that I might, based on what they know about me, that I'm trying to give the pure shit out, right? As pure, as pure, you know, I'm not. And, you know, that I'm, my, based, based on, as it can be. And, you know, we've had guests come on and they, you know, Bishop Larry Gators was a very messy divorce for us. And we didn't want it to be. That was his choice. But he came on and said, Trump was still president during Joe Biden's thing. That was, was this guy, a big Q guy? He might have, I don't know if he was a Q guy, but he was really into, like, he, he was talking about Kobe Bryant and all that stuff before everybody else was. And he used to have, like, carte Blanche come on the show. He'd be like, can I come on? You're like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Come on tomorrow. And he said that and the fans had a very visceral reaction to it. And he called us Satanist and blocked us on everything. You know, so I, you know, I think that, you know, I watch your stuff. You're a pretty honest guy. You're working pretty hard and you're pretty consistent. And I think it's okay to question narratives, right? I think, oh, well, I mean, of course it is.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I like, I love what you've been saying recently about the idea that I might be wrong, but I'm not lying. I think that's the difference is like that we're all wrong about certain things today. We don't know what we're wrong about. Otherwise, we'd correct it and fix it right now. But everybody's wrong. And that's the thing. It's like if you listen to, I mean, there's not one podcast. There's not one big influencer that I agree with 100% of the time.
Starting point is 00:23:45 So I don't expect anyone to agree with me 100% of the time either. Because eventually I changed my mind about things. And that's okay. And I think that's, we're working in a space where we all kind of recognize we've been lied to about like, It's like an unending list of things we've been lied to about. And then so we're trying to use the best evidence we have to try to formulate some kind of a coherent narrative. But then eventually, yeah, you've got to give yourself room to be wrong. I mean, especially when you just say, like, I mean, all you have to really say is that here's what I know, here's what I think, here's what I believe, and here's a wild theory.
Starting point is 00:24:22 And then the people want to fight about the things that we're theorizing about. I don't know. Like we weren't there, knew you weren't there either. We're trying to solve crimes in the dark, dude. You're going to get shit wrong. You're really trying to solve a crime. It's pitch black, and you've got to figure out what just happened. It's not easy.
Starting point is 00:24:42 No, it's not. I mean, it's nearly impossible, but I think that it makes sense that these three-letter agencies know that, too, and they're putting people that are not good faith actors in our space to do like the Spider-Man meme. You're pointing at, like, you're the Fed. Everybody's doing that now. Yes, you're controlled up. You're the Fed.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And I always ask them, what do I get out of it? You know, like, I used to co-headline with a guy, and he's playing Madison Square Garden. I'm playing a gay bar in Jacksonville. Like, what is, what am I getting out of it? I drive a Mitsubishi. If I've sold out, I've done it wrong. Yeah, I mean, this is the worst sell-out I've ever seen my life, dude. I couldn't sell a ticket in Albuquerque.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Like, I'm the worst fucking controlled op of all time, dude. Like, what are we fucking talking about? Like, what am I getting out of it? That's it. What do I get out of it? That's crazy to me, dude. Well, some of these people in the space now, because, again, they think Charlie Kirk is still alive. And then some people think that nobody dies.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Like, nobody in the public sphere dies. Yeah, yeah. And it's like a Scooby-Doo cartoon where it's like eventually they're going to pull a mask off and it's going to be the person who died. He's playing a different character. I mean, that's what some people think it's crazy because if you do research secret societies, that part and parcel of like the secret societies, they will absolutely off somebody. Yeah, of course. If you think about, and if you think it's connected to that country over in the Middle East,
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Starting point is 00:29:53 for sponsoring the show. You guys got to understand something. So much of who you become and opportunities come your way is also a hidden hand studying data. Like, you know, Johnny was in the gate program. You know, they're looking for these people very early. Who, you know, why does Elon Musk make it to where he is and his brother didn't? Because I guarantee you they found something in Elon Musk that his brother didn't have that made them think this is the one that will fucking drive this thing as far as he can
Starting point is 00:30:26 because all he wants is money and women and we can give him both of those and he'll do whatever we tell him to. Yeah. So it's constant, constant data reading, data reading, data reading. So if you want to get into how many, like, do you guys see the, during the NBA Summer League that the Lakers player, the guy they drafted, I think, very late in the first round,
Starting point is 00:30:55 was giving up the, I can't even do it because the fit is flat earther will cut it up and put it on fucking something, but he's doing like the thing on the eye with the three fingers. Like the okay? Oh yeah, over his eye. And you see that a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Because I think what happens is they actually try to control co-op all these guys and they just wait to see who blows up. And then that person is already controlled. and they're all doing it. They're all going to these camps. They're all meeting with these people. You know, like LeBron James, like, by the time he's 14,
Starting point is 00:31:27 he's already a grown-ass man with cars and women and all that stuff, he's got a boule tattoo. Oh, yeah, yeah. From the jump, they're figuring out who the next guy is. I love to imagine these athletes, you know, going to these same camps with all these politicians and historians and scientists, you know, trying to have conversations with them. Or it's their own version of it.
Starting point is 00:31:48 within sports. Yes, the sports version of the bohemian grove, dude. Bohemian Grove, there we go. Have you ever had, there was a, when I was kind of waking up to all this stuff, I was watching this guy named Unplug him on YouTube. You've ever seen any of his stuff?
Starting point is 00:32:04 No. I think he used to be a, he was like a Detroit rapper, but he didn't make it because he didn't probably do all the, all the butt stuff or sacrifice anybody. But he was kind of revealing a lot of stuff that the symbolism,
Starting point is 00:32:18 through like you had the boule and his connection with like rappers. And he was joking, he was saying like, these guys can barely read and they know all this esoteric stuff about all kinds of things. Like, how does that happen? And I thought, man, it's some diabolical stuff when you think about it because, you know, when I was growing up, like in high school in the 90s, us in suburbia, white suburbia, we're like, we're emulating these rappers who are getting trained and initiated
Starting point is 00:32:45 in all kinds of esoteric things, even like the idea of like, with like the B-boy stance when they stand like that. It comes from like those free masonry things where they stand on like one of the checkerboard floors and they do this. And so they're calling everybody G. Like where's the G coming from? You know what I'm like where anything the G comes from?
Starting point is 00:33:05 Even them so calling themselves God. What up God? What up G? And so like G you think from your like your first level of understanding is G comes from gangster, but is G coming from the first. Freemace and Recomposed and Square. It was like, is that the G they're talking about? G, unit.
Starting point is 00:33:24 And so I think that, I think that's absolutely what it is. And so when you get into like the NBA players, I mean, I think, yeah, like LeBron James in the boule or is connected with them. And he throws up, you know, the, I'm not going to do it either. The, you know, covering up the eye and putting up the three symbol. So then you have all kinds of people who idol, LeBron James growing up, Kobe Bryant and all those people. Of course, they're doing these symbols. They don't even know what they mean. So later, obviously, when they can be useful to
Starting point is 00:33:58 the elites, then of course they're going to say, hey, you'd be a great person to promote X, Y, and Z, and then they're in the game. 100%. I didn't even think about that, how they stand the boule on the checker, I mean, the B-boys out that. And, you know, you bring up this unplug guy, there has to be some kind of weird satisfaction going, oh, I wasn't crazy. I did make it because I wouldn't do butt stuff. Like you find out they're all gay, dude. They're all gay. It's insane to me.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And so it's like, this is Sam speaking. I have this real war on the N-word. Like, I want to kill that fucking thing, dude. I fucking hate it. You know, it's just this non-linear warfare sci-op. to give people a reason to fight with each other. And like, people get mad at me, and I just want to be like,
Starting point is 00:34:54 it's, you know, it's our culture. Your culture is not your heritage, dude. Your culture is contrived in think tanks and put out by intelligence agents to get you to make bad decisions. So to get you to detach from God, okay? You know, I was watching the Michael Jackson documentary, movie, Michael.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And there's that scene where the Jackson 5, he's a little kid, and he's singing at like, I forget the Apollo or something. And you look at the crowd, everybody's in three-piece suits. Everybody's in three-piece suits. And, you know, you can say that about everybody at the time.
Starting point is 00:35:32 You know, we used to fly in three-piece suits. But, you know, nobody's dropping N-bombs. Nobody's doing any of that stuff. And, like, where does that all come from? Oh, this CIA band called N-WA comes in and just start dropping N-bombs on everybody. I'm not saying the word was you used before that, but it becomes this giant cultural thing
Starting point is 00:35:52 that people are trained to defend at all costs because they think it's part of their heritage. It is not. It's a sci-up. And then you got us white boys in suburbia calling each other that. Yeah, yeah. It's so powerful.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And we're not doing it. We're not using the hard ER at the end, right? We're just calling each other because, for one, the movies, you get to think about all these comedians who made it sound so funny to say it. And then you listen to all the music that you like. And it's funny when they say it too. So like when you call your friends, that's what you call them.
Starting point is 00:36:24 You don't think Eminem was sent out there to make white people think like, oh, well, if he can say it. Well, yeah, I can say it. Does Eminem say the N word or not? No. No, he doesn't. Like, he used to the, he like, he gets really mad at it, but he loves the word faggot. It's like so crazy to me. It's like Bill Burr's like Bill Burr.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Like, I love Bill Burr. Like, he got mad at me because I talk about when Paul Mooney. called me the M word. Like, that's when our relationship changed. Burr, not mad about that? Yeah, I could tell because our relationship changed. Oh, because, yeah, we were doing Skangfest together. And I talked about Paul Mooney, called me the M word, and I say it.
Starting point is 00:36:58 And we've never been the same since then, right? Dude, if you were right, so am I off because of that, you know what I mean? But it's funny because he's made his bones on ripping on women. So it's like, one demographic's okay, but another demographic is, you know, and I get why. I'm not, and I love Bill Burr, but it's like, it's like, just this mental gymnastics, people have to do because it makes no sense. You can see the programming when someone is like that, you can see it kind of take over their
Starting point is 00:37:22 brain when it happens. You know what I mean? You can see them just kind of go like the person's not there anymore. They withdraw and that programming just kicks in and they're offended, you know? Yeah. It's almost as though it's not them that is in control. I always like at the comedy store, I'll follow a black comedian who just uses the M word as a noun of verb and adjective.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And then I'll talk about when I was called the M word and just watch everybody shut down. And I go, you know that makes no sense. sense, right? You know it makes no sense. You just have been programmed. The music thing is the craziest, though, because, I mean, they have a song that literally most of their fans can't even sing all the words to. Well, that was Nas put out
Starting point is 00:37:58 I think an album called the the N-word. How do you even buy it? I would say it. Give me the new N-T in trouble. But the literal N-word, okay, and he's like, no, if you're why, you can't say, I go, hey, Doc, I just drop 20 bucks, I'll drop N-bombs left and fucking right.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Like, I'm going to say it, dude. It's like crazy to me, dude. It's like crazy to me. But I want to get back to what you came on to talk about. Conspiracy slop. Whatever, this is fine. I mean, I do think it is funny. Like I said, there's something about it.
Starting point is 00:38:29 And maybe this is just like the really the origin of like the woke political correctness. It's like they get you to say something. I mean, like their intent was obviously to get you to sing their songs. And then so, of course, you're going to look up to these kind of people. not that ever wanted to be like Snoop Dog, but it was funny when they, when you're rapping along with their songs and you're rapping the lyrics to your friends,
Starting point is 00:38:52 that eventually you're like, what do you mean we're not allowed to sing it? Yeah, it's confusing to us, but then it's like, then it really is, it's like that they've got your mind in a prison, like, okay, the intent doesn't matter, the context doesn't matter, it's just you're not allowed to do this.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Yeah. Because you're a white boy. There's no logic to it. Like, I don't, yeah, which is racist. I know, we were cool. I think you're my dog, my G. You can't use the word of the slave matter.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Well, why do you call yourself the word of the slave man? And then they'll get into it. It's actually a word from Africa, meaning king. I'm like, if it was king, you can get mad if I called yet. You know you're full of shit right now. You know you're full of shit right now. And it's just like, listen, guys, I don't want to fucking have black people angry and crying in my set. It's just like, that's not my, I'm there to entertain, dude.
Starting point is 00:39:42 What if you did want that? What if that was your whole? That's not my... You know, at the core, we're entertainers when we're doing stand-up. You're there to make them... You know, it's like, you can't get on a soapbox the whole time. They're there that kind of forget the world going on. It's...
Starting point is 00:39:55 You know, comedy used to be the jester. Now we're along the lines of bread and circus, you know, in a weird way to make... People forget how crazy the world is, which isn't that really crazy if you get off the internet. You know, it's kind of normal. What was that? Did you... That video, you shared on Twitter of that woman talking about how we need more... gays and what was that?
Starting point is 00:40:16 That is Elon Musk, trans daughter. Just, I don't know where she's at. What is that? It looks like a Bravo production. And she's, it's literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. It is literally sent back gay pride by decades.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Decades, she's talking about wealth disparity. I'm like, your dad is a trillionaire. Yeah. Like, what are you talking? You're the problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:43 You know? And she's like, you know, we need them. Because I heard a new term there, which was chopped. Yes, chopped. Yeah, yeah, that's why we need the case. That means when they chop it off? The strengths are chopped. No.
Starting point is 00:40:55 The chopped, do you know what it means? It's like kind of like busted, you know. Ugly, you're ugly. They're all ugly. She literally thinks the problem with politics that everybody's ugly. I mean, it's the most vapid shit you've ever heard in your life. I thought that's the point. Isn't it?
Starting point is 00:41:08 They always say that Washington is Hollywood for the ugly. Yeah, yeah. But now they're starting to get more attractive, right? They can't be used in that way, so they've got a place for that. Well, it's like when you get a lawyer, you don't want a really attractive lawyer. You want a really ugly lawyer that's angry at the world. You know what I'm saying? That's going to scorch the fun to turn your trial into revenge for high school.
Starting point is 00:41:29 You wanted them to have to earn it. Yes, 100%. They had to fight. Nothing was getting, you don't want a lawyer that was giving shit. You want a lawyer that has a fight tooth and nail for everything they got. I want to get into going back to cultural slop. So just so you know, tentatively, the fittest flat earther has agreed to come on the show. Tentively.
Starting point is 00:41:55 On tenfoil. I'm tinfoil. Okay. So he left me a voicemail. I have a voice message on Instagram. I have to listen to it. I just haven't had time. But we'll do it.
Starting point is 00:42:08 And, you know, he wants to be, you know, professional. And I'm going to, listen, dude, anybody who comes on tin fall hat, I'm going to try to make you look as good as you can, even if you call me fucking Francis Bacon. No, but the new thing, do you hear what he is, that me and Diamond Dallas Page shapeshifting to each other. Is he alive? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Oh, he is? Yeah, he's now doing yoga videos. Oh, he's been doing that for a long time. But somehow him and I are the same person. And we're shape shifting into each other. And it's very... I can see that a little bit. Put up.
Starting point is 00:42:46 You know. Put up. You're supposed to be this guy. Yeah. That's you right there. Yeah, me and him are shape shifting into each other. It's so crazy, dude. Does everything, you get, like, the muscles and everything that he has, you have?
Starting point is 00:43:00 Why wouldn't I stay in that body? I know, that's what I'm saying. You know? One day you got heavy legs the next day you don't. It's just crazy to me. Everyone's like, whatever diamond. And like some people, some people are on to the joke, right? And they run with it and it's super funny.
Starting point is 00:43:16 And then some people are like, you can't disprove them. I go, I can't disprove retardedness. Like, you want me to, like, to disprove that I'm not Dallas, Diamond Dallas page? He's also like a giant. That's like six, five, six six. I mean, it's huge. Well, Johnny, I'm shape shifting. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I'm sorry. Okay, I can shape shifted to a midgett if I wanted to. Oh, so you can, it doesn't matter how. much matter is there. That's interesting. Well, you can shape-shift, but if you have a freckle, you can't fix that. Yeah. Right? It's like, this guy's got freckle. That guy, it's so stupid. If you could shape-shift, you're going to have nine, at least. You know what I mean? You're not going to act. Why of all the people, and this is not against Diamond, Dallas Page, the guy's a legend, lived a great fucking life. But why would I want to shape-shift in the
Starting point is 00:43:59 head? Yeah, that's a weird one, bro. Right? Maybe you're not given a choice. Why wouldn't I want to be Ronaldo? Why would I shape-shift into the best-looking guy on planet Earth? But what do you think, well, what do you think Dallas things when he shapeships into you? How do you think Dallas is like, God, I got to be Sam? How come I'm always to downgrade on this equation? Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, you're never the aspirational. I'm never, I'm not with the A side.
Starting point is 00:44:22 He would make the most influenced into, in 2026 as being Sam Tripley. It's just like, I want to. No offense, no, I want to all the time. I wouldn't come back. There's got to be an upgrade. Like you said, you think there's like a homeless guy who's like, I get to be Sam Tripley today. I get to shape into Sam. It's like being John Malkovich where you can just crawl into a tunnel.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Hold on. I'm shape shifting. And it's own shape shifting into me. Dude, I don't know. It's a nonstop chain. What are the rules? What are the rules? What are we?
Starting point is 00:44:53 Who stops who? That's why we're going to have Munt to find that. Yeah, we got to find out. Yeah. You think Johnny's a shapeshipper? Yeah, for sure. I wish. But it's just, it's, it's a lot of stuff out there that is,
Starting point is 00:45:07 I feel that, okay, clones, you know, shape-shifting, all that stuff, that to me is like white belt shit, like into the world of like what's really going on. And it's like I would normally not like give a shit. Like the Francis Bacon stuff kind of made me laugh at first, you know. But then he started like getting nasty, like trying to disparage my name and that I'm a fucking controlled op, which is trying to destroy my credibility. And then he went after Jeremiah Sceba's dad. And like that to me is...
Starting point is 00:45:44 He's gone after me a few times. We used to be friendly. What about the other... Well, so what do you think... Sorry, to coach you off to... What do you think is the motive? Man, I would say that I've tried to think about that and it hurts my brain to think because...
Starting point is 00:46:02 I mean, I know, you know, I can't speak for anybody else. I don't really think that your Dallas page or... Thank you. ...theirangement. Thank you. But all I know is when I get called a Mason by him, because I want to say that he specifically called me a Mason because I took the Charlie Kirk thing as him actually being killed. And I thought that's a weird thing. Like you think about we would agree about so many different things, but like that's the line for you.
Starting point is 00:46:26 So like I know that I know that I'm not one. So what he's saying is not true. Like why is he saying it though? Why is he saying? Like that's the real confusing part because so many people that, that I know that he's friended in the content creator space, he's eventually called them out too, like almost every one of them.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I'm not exactly sure as out of all the original people that I knew he was talking to, that he hasn't called out everybody. And it's weird. I mean, it's weird. It's like it's not a benefit to you, especially as a podcaster to call everybody controlled op when you go on people's shows, you talk to them.
Starting point is 00:47:04 And for one, it's like, because they're not. I mean, again, we don't know who's telling the truth. all the time or why they're saying what they're saying. But I mean, it's a very cynical way to go about life. Hey, guys, what do they say? Data is the new oil. Your data is gold. And people want that data.
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Starting point is 00:49:50 It's like that one page where, uh, I'm sure you have seen it where everyone's transgender. And then she finds a way to be like, oh, Justin Bieber's a transgender. And then she finds a way where they just, and you're just sitting there. I'm like, fuck. Then what are we doing here? The gender aversion stuff is so weird. Honestly, I think it's totally demonic because it's like you're constantly thinking what kind of genitals those people really have. Yeah, you spend a lot of time thinking about genitals when you're in that business, huh?
Starting point is 00:50:18 You're so right. Well, yeah, it's like, well, you'd say that so they have kids together, so it's actually the guy who carried the kids. But then there's pictures of the woman pregnant and stuff like that. but it's like this is a, this is a really, really long game you're playing here. Like, what is ultimately the point of that?
Starting point is 00:50:37 The thing is, the thing is they do take away from the idea that there are inverted people, and I know that they're on. Yeah, 100%. Everybody is, nobody is. It's like when they have that model
Starting point is 00:50:47 where they put the skull over somebody's face, and they say, every one of them is the opposite of what they say. It's like, maybe your model's flawed. Yeah. If it's 100% of the people on the wrong.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yeah, I totally agree. Are there people who are being presented as women that are really were men? Of course. I mean, 100%. All of them? Can't be all of them. Are you telling me there's no hot biological women that could be turned into actresses? Is that what you're telling me, dude? I mean, it's just, it goes, it's just a step too far to believe that there's no biological women that are famous that they're all dudes. It's just, it defies any logic from a guy who
Starting point is 00:51:36 believes they position politicians marry trans people. They're trying to ruin Big Mike. What do you mean? They're trying to say like she can't be it. Like she's not, if she, well, so Big Mike's one of the ones where we sit there and we're like, do you guys really think
Starting point is 00:51:52 it's a dude? Do we really think it's a dude? She should go back to being a man. She might be able to be the president again. Well, it's just, there's weird things with that. I mean, like, that's an example where I go, it's possible. I mean, it's not, I mean, like, you know, it's my joke. These trans are like iPhones. They're just getting slicker and slicker, you know, but if you're like every single one of them is trans, white, no, and rider, trans, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:16 just, you know, it's like, are there some first ladies that seem to be, like, very manly? Yeah. Right? You know, it's like Barbara Bush, man. I know they've modulated her voice, but there's some serious pictures where you're like, well, especially now that we're so trained, like trans have become such a big part of the culture, your ability to clock them quicker. You know, back then nobody thought about that shit. I mean, what we're talking, who's pushing this? You don't think Bridget McCrone is pushing these crazy people to sit there and tell everybody there, everybody's trans, so no one believes that I'm a trans. I mean, that's possible. I was going to, that's exactly what I was going to say is that when you flood the system, and I think this is ultimately my whole point, was that if you say everyone's trans, you lose most people because they're out.
Starting point is 00:53:08 And so they don't even want to hear you if you actually do have good evidence about one person because you're like, oh, I've heard this theory before. Everybody is a trans. And the same way that it's flat earth will say that some of these people are fallen angels. Now, I think that that's actually possible that some of them could, be. And I think it would be like a total outlier. I mean, this is wow theorizing. But what if
Starting point is 00:53:31 there was one? I mean, you think about movies like the devil's advocate, there's that show Lucifer, even in that kind of garbage Tolkien show on Amazon Prime. The Rings of Power like Sarron is actually appearing to be a man. Like, is that
Starting point is 00:53:47 possible? I mean, I think it is possible. It says in the Bible that you need to be careful how you treat strangers because you could be entertaining angels on a bears. So I mean, I think that actually is possible. But when you say everybody is a fallen angel, everybody in Hollywood, everybody in sports, everybody in podcasting is a fallen angel, well then, yeah, then it does kind of in murky's thing so much that the normal people, rational people would say, this is stupid because it is stupid. Yeah, I'm with you. It just does
Starting point is 00:54:19 it just does a disservice to actually trying to figure out who, who is really what. and why that's done. And most of the time it's positioned to be demoralization. And now with how open trans are, why would they even lie about it anymore? Like the girl that was the trans lead in the latest, let's say, by the bell. And then she regrets getting transitioned. She can't, you know, she's like one of the detransitioners that is talking about to everybody. You know, they were open.
Starting point is 00:54:55 and she's a trans. Like, why would they lie about that anymore? It's just weird to me. It's just, and I'm going to be honest with you, yes, we understand that the trans agenda is very Babylonian. We understand that. I have trans friends. I have no problems with them.
Starting point is 00:55:12 It's very cobblistic, very cobblistic. So it's like we understand that movement, but it's like it does disservice to the bigger thing when you're just, the boy who cried wolf about, trans? The trans are common. You're like, there's no trans, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Did you ever read that book, One Nation Under Blackmail by Whitney Webb? Oh, yeah. I read some of it, yep, for sure. I didn't finish it. It was a little too, I don't know, there was too many footnotes in that book. It was a lot of, it was a hard read. But anyways, but I got the general gist of it. Then most these people were secretly closet homos.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Yeah. And through that, they could blackmail them all. But if you think about it, it's way harder to blackmail somebody for that today because it's accepted. That's why it's pedophilia. Right, exactly. So that's why it seems like that that was the switch. And you're right. Yeah, the trans stuff has been so normalized where it's not as crazy if they did it now.
Starting point is 00:56:12 And they openly said they did it. It'd be harder to blackmail somebody like that now because they'd say, you're actually a bigot for trying to call them out. Yeah. I mean, all these NBA players are hooking up with trans now. But that's the thing Sam said. You said, oh, if trans are so beautiful, then why when we call Michelle Obama trans? Why do you guys get mad?
Starting point is 00:56:31 She's beautiful, right? You've been telling us they're unicorns for decades. Now we're like, she's a unicorn. No, she's not. She's not a unicorn. It's so crazy. All right. So, you know, I'm sure you had this brought up to you before.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Ed Marbury, we love them on the show. Great guy. One of our favorite guests, just like Ed May. I love him so much. I say it's the name wrong. Every time I'm a piece of shit, just like you. I'm sorry. I'm not good at this.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Okay? I have a really... Your best friend, Ed Mayberry. Hey, shut up, dude. Every time I see him, I apologize profusely. You know, you're one of the people who are very much into... There's a possibility we are in the little season. He is very much saying that we're not in the little season.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I wish I could get you two to talk. not in the debate, but just a discussion. Arm wrestle. Yeah, I wish you guys could get you guys oil wrestling. Oh, yeah. And then we'll just call you guys trans the whole time. Yeah, yeah, there we go. Yeah, what are your thoughts on Little Seas?
Starting point is 00:57:38 Because I've seen your shows. I've seen your clips about it. I find it all very interesting. I'm open-minded to both of it because, you know, it's like it will get really dark and evil. I'm like, it's pretty dark. It's pretty evil right now. I don't know how it could be worse. If you look at like World War II and all the stuff we did in the Middle East after 9-11
Starting point is 00:58:00 and all the all the crazy child trafficking stories coming out, like it seems pretty dark right now. Sure. Yeah, I mean, to me, again, this, without going through all the biblical evidence for it, it just makes more sense that if Jesus was telling the original audience for the gospel, he was saying he was going to return in their generation. And all the epistles backed that up because they're saying the exact same things. The book of Revelation says the exact same thing.
Starting point is 00:58:31 It says that these are the things that are and here's the things that soon must come to pass. The book ends with, John, do not seal up this prophecy because the time is at hand. So with that understanding, does that really indicate that it could be 2,000 years later or 2,000 years plus from that date? I mean, with a lot of mental gymnastics, you could make that. case. But to me it makes more sense, and maybe it's just a situation where people have their perception of like what the millennial kingdom was supposed to be might be different than actually what Jesus was describing. And that's the funny thing is like so a lot of people would say, well, where is all the evidence? Well, Jesus says to the Pharisees in Luke 21, actually I think it's
Starting point is 00:59:11 Luke 17, they asked him when the kingdom will come. Or like, what, like, what's the evidence of this kingdom? And he says, it's not coming in ways that can be observed. He tells Pilate that my kingdom's not of this world. So then people are saying, well, where is it? I want to see it. It's like, well, he said it wasn't going to come in ways that can be observed. So I think that Ed Mayberry is a, as a Protestant, and the Protestants have a different view of eschatology than they did 200 years ago. Like if you looked into like John Darby, like C.I. Schofield, before, before Darby, all the Protestants, just like the Orthodox Church and just like the Catholics, were something you call a millennialism.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Amillinist. So that means they believe that it's a spiritual millennial reign that we're living in right now. But it wasn't until John Darby that they started to reinterpret this thing with this idea of this secret rapture that's coming. And it's all based on this dual covenant theology about Israel and in the church. But that was a heresy in the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church. And the only reason it's not a heresy in the Protestant Church is because there's a million denominations of Protestantism.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I thought it was interesting. I just read a book about this, and it's a little bit esoteric, but it was called Kabbalah Secrets that every Christian needs to know. It's written by Deanne Looper. And so in this book, these Jewish rabbis were promoting the idea that Kabbalah was eventually going to be taught to all the nations, and then this would bring about the Mishiyah. Well, when they decided that the rest of the world could learn about Kabbalah was in the 1840s. And that's right around the time John Darby basically changed. all the Protestant idea about a spiritual kingdom to a physical kingdom that is centered in modern day Palestine, Jerusalem, and Israel. And at that same time, you had these several different sects of, I wouldn't call them
Starting point is 01:01:06 Protestant sects, but different kind of Christian denominations popped up, seven-day Adventists, Jehovah's Witness, and also the Latter-day Saints. And they were all based around that they were living in the last days. in the 1840s or like in the early 1800s. I don't know. I think that's really, I mean, I think that's a, I think that's evident. That's very interesting. I think that's evidence that this is when some kind of shift happened.
Starting point is 01:01:33 And so the way that like somebody like Ed would promote his idea is like, this is what the church has always taught, but it's like it's not what the church has always taught. Well, first of all the churches teach to that. No, no, no, this is, again, I'm not, I'm saying that in the same way that I, I commend you for saying that you might be wrong, but you're not lying. I don't think that Ed is lying, and I don't think that we disagree because,
Starting point is 01:01:58 I don't think we're not brothers and sisters in Christ because we don't have the same eschatology. Because I don't think that's what it's about. I think that's what people want us to do. They want us to fight, and I don't really want to fight. I mean, again, these are like, these are my interpretations, and these are my best guesses based on the evidence
Starting point is 01:02:15 that I've been presented. But, like, me pointing back at old historical stories and in history that I do believe or I'm taking with a pinch of salt, that's no different than what they're doing today when they say every headline, every bomb that drops in the Middle East is proof that end times prophecy is happening right now. It's not any different. I find what you're saying interesting. Well, you know, one of the main points that these people have been bringing up that's saying, oh, well, we're definitely in the end times because in the book of Revelation, it talks about the Euphrates River drying up. Well, now it's filling back in.
Starting point is 01:02:48 and also that's at the end of the book. So it's not actually at the beginning. So like they're waiting for like this prophecy to take place. And they're saying, oh, here's evidence of it taking place. But now it's actually filling back in. So we're reading a book that was written to certain people. And we're trying to say that it's written to us. But I mean, that's a, I mean, that's crazy, honestly.
Starting point is 01:03:08 That's interesting. So you bring up some very interesting. Did this book you said, Kabbalah for Christians or what was it the book you said? It was called Cabala Secrets. Christians need to know. Okay. And is that where you found out when they said they were going to put out, start teaching the world about Kabbalah? Is it stated in there? Okay. I find that very interesting. And I must say something that could be seen as very nuts, because you bring up that all of a sudden, all these different shoots of prostitism starts coming up and all these different
Starting point is 01:03:40 offshoots of Christianity and all that. So I have this theory and it's, and, and, and, It's something that a fan of mine pointed out when we were watching a video, Wacky Jackie. And I watched this video, this guy, he broke down Kabbalah and what was in Kabbalah. And he talks about the Zohar. And he breaks down what actually these Jewish mystics believe. And they believe that when God decided to, create the world, the universe, he put his energy into the tree of life. And it was so powerful that
Starting point is 01:04:26 the tree of life exploded and God's energy went all over the place. And that's where, and that and his energy went inside the Jews, the Hebrews, right? The Hebrews. Yeah, they have a soul and we don't. Yes. And what it is is that if you believe in duality, you know, if God's energy comes over here, There's chaotic energy, and the chaos energy is in us, and that their job is whether you want to hear it or not, is to bring calm to get rid of the chaos in the universe. Okay? And the reason I bring that up is because when I heard that and then Jackie said what she said, I was like, holy shit, dude, she's right. that sounds like where the big bang theory comes from. It absolutely does, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:18 So everybody's like, it's Jesuit, dude. I go, I know, but they infiltrate everything. And now you're saying that, you know, they got into Protestantism. It totally fucking lines up to me. That that's where the big bang theory comes in. Johnny says it all the time. He's like, scientists say, if you just give us this, just give us this. Okay, we can explain everything else.
Starting point is 01:05:42 We can't explain this. but if you give it to us If you grant us one miracle Yeah, we can explain Yeah, I love that science is asking for you to grant miracles Just what? Right?
Starting point is 01:05:53 Like the non-religious people want a religious miracle. So that, what you just said They blew my mind. Yeah, well, it's a situation like what you're talking about with the Big Bang. They have this belief
Starting point is 01:06:04 that I think is their God or their creator of everything was called NSOF and he was more like an energy force. and then he created the god of what we would consider the god of the bible and then through this like the with the sephirot tree with like the the circles or the spheres in it there's this order of things they need to come back together but like there's this corruption of the heavenly things and the earthly
Starting point is 01:06:32 things and then there's like there through cabala and through knowledge and agnosis eventually this comes back together where they attain this kingdom of heaven on earth which is a very again, it's very similar to actually the idea that it's a physical kingdom eventually that's restored. Like the godly atom is restored with the earthly atom and there's a symmetry here. You know, like in some ways, but what they're saying is not, I mean, it's obviously gobbledygook. But I mean, it's like that we do know, like as a Christian, we'd say that there is this, because of sin, there's been this separation. But we don't believe that God is corrupt in heaven. But what they believe is like there's sparks of God in all of us.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Maybe not the Gentiles, but they believe that there's these sparks of the divine that are here that actually need to be restored to the heavenly Adam. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy to me that you said that. So I'm open-minded to both sides again. Nothing but mad love for Ed. You know, he's supposed to come on. If you were getting him a date, he'll come on, you know, and he wants to talk about a bunch
Starting point is 01:07:40 stuff, love and respect. And everyone's allowed to have their opinion. I want to get into demonology. That stuff, I feel, is like more fucking, more relevant than ever. You know, like what we're seeing in the world right now seems to be like this. I've said it before, and, you know, I think you've said it a bunch of times. Like the old gods want to come out and play. These pagan gods that were kind of, you know, I've said,
Starting point is 01:08:13 this before, you know, the reason they hate Jesus is Jesus came down and ended child sacrifice and animal sacrifice and worshipping of all these fallen angels. And I feel like these fallen angels have just been waiting to come back and they want to be worshipped and they want sacrifice. And that's why they hate Christianity so much. Well, yeah. So I see, I think this strengthens my view of the little season is the idea that during when the Bible was written, like, who would the majority of the Romans said was God back then. They would have said it's Zeus or Jupiter. Right. So there was temples to him. There was temples to Apollyon. There's temples to Artemis. There was temple to all these gods. But during the reign of, you know, Constantine, the Roman Empire becomes Christian, converts to like the
Starting point is 01:09:01 Byzantine Empire that lasts for a thousand years, Christian Empire. And then during Theodosius I first, paganism is straight of outlawed. And so I think that this is where you kind of get the genesis. I think of a lot of the, maybe the more modern secret societies is because they still worship these gods, but they're not allowed to worship them openly. And so I always think about that quote from the usual suspects about how the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. But if you think about it, he wasn't trying to convince the world he didn't exist back in the times of Rome. But maybe that's why it's a hidden hand now. Yes. It's a
Starting point is 01:09:38 hidden in plain sight thing where you see all these public buildings and you see this all this iconography, these old gods, but now it's just mythology and it's not a big deal. But maybe that's exactly what they think. They want you to think that that's the case because they can't openly say it and that's why during all these ceremonies like to the World Cup for the Olympics, these concerts, these Super Bowl halftime shows, that they're flaunting right in your face,
Starting point is 01:10:06 I mean, if you don't really know what you're seeing, like, you don't know that they're actually worshipping a totally different God than they would ever publicly acknowledge. They do it with like a wink and a nod, but not really openly saying exactly what they mean. So anyways, but yeah, we read, we're going through on my podcast, we were going through an apocryphal book that's not in the canonical books of the Bible. It's called the Testament of Solomon. And this is all about how Solomon was using this sigil ring that has a, pent alpha on it, which is a pentagram. And he was using this to control these demons. And he was
Starting point is 01:10:43 asking them all kinds of questions about what they did. Who, what angel are they bound to? Solomon? Yeah, you were asking about this early. Yeah. Okay, I'm very excited about this. Tell me about, sorry to cut you off, dude. I just want to make sure we're talking about the same guy. Yeah. Oh, so it's King Solomon of the Bible. And so in this story, it's, it's not saying Solomon's written, right in this. And of course, this is why this is why this is why this not in the Bible, it's because they say that this was a book written somewhere in like the early like Middle Ages, dark ages, but a lot of the things actually do point to Christ. And that's why they say this is an older tradition, or a younger tradition that points back to things that
Starting point is 01:11:22 Christians already believed. But yeah, it's really interesting because I think this is where you get the idea where the Freemasons are really giving so much reverence to King Solomon is because he does have this power over the demonic. And And even if you read back to old biblical stories, maybe in the times of Josephus, he points to the idea that King David and his son Solomon had control over the spirits. And so when the Messiah shows up, it's prophesied that he's going to have that same kind of power. So when Jesus starts going out there, casting out demons and commanding demons to leave and go to
Starting point is 01:12:00 the abyss, that's why there's this association with. with Jesus and this power that's already been foretold. Because even when Jesus is being questioned by the Pharisees, and they're saying that he's casting out demons by the power of Bielzable, well, that comes from the Testament of Solomon, because eventually he encounters this very powerful spirit who's called the Prince of Demons. And the Prince of Demons has control over these other demons,
Starting point is 01:12:29 but he's bound by the Prince of Peace, Emmanuel, who's the prince that's to come. So I think that this is where you get this modern idea of what witchcraft is. You're controlling demonic powers through sigils. And I think that's why you see the pentagram used so often in the cults, because this is a sigil that has power over these spirits, because it's the same symbol that was on Solomon's ring. And correct me if I'm wrong, Solomon used them to build the first temple, right?
Starting point is 01:12:59 In that book, isn't that right? Yeah, in that book, yes, absolutely. He used certain demons, I think, to saw stones. He did some to weave fabrics. I think he did some to meltdown gold for the foundations and things like that. Yeah, I mean, of course, it gets into some wacky stuff, but the stuff that is revealed in there, it's not something I could say for 100% is sure is true,
Starting point is 01:13:28 but this is what I believe that a lot of the cultists and the Kabbalists believe, because that's why you get into later that some of these witchcraft books like the grand noir the one of them is the lower keys of Solomon so the testament of Solomon is actually disgusting like it's basically telling the story about what happened but the lower keys of Solomon is more like a how to book about how to use these spells
Starting point is 01:13:53 that are mentioned in this book yeah how many people have read that and just fuck their lives up dude just trying to damn with demons, man? Think about what that means of the temple, you know, and all the symbolism of the temple if it was built by demons under the control of Solomon. Oh, Johnny, and that's crazy that you guys bring that up is because just think about what they're saying AI is, dude, that it's like the spirits of de Nephilim.
Starting point is 01:14:25 And now they're trying, and there's this big fight between the old school and the new school. the old school wants a brick and mortar third temple and they're saying that the new school wants the third temple to be the the power grid the in the surveillance system that's super interesting man well i mean it's interesting when you consider that for i mean a bunch of years people i mean forever people have wondered how that some of the ancient megalis were built and if you understand that if there's any truth to this and we can't really explain how the pyramids and geese were built or the temples in Balbeck Lebanon and the things in you know like Manchu Picchu and Saxe-Waman like how were they built like how did they move these stones
Starting point is 01:15:12 I mean it does seem like a supernatural thing or it's a completely alternate technology that we don't have today but I mean it is associated with with giants most of those megaliths. So like the disembodied spirits are the deceased giants. So maybe that's somehow the knowledge of it. Now the thing that gets a little bit weird for me is that when I think of a demon, I think of a disembodied spirit. But they're doing physical things in this book and that's the real confusing part about it because it seems like I don't know if they're demons because if they can manifest physically or if it's a situation where some of them are like
Starting point is 01:15:53 demons that are still in their flesh suits, if that makes sense. It does make sense. And they're just like almost like soul hoppers too. They can jump from, you know, body suit to body suit. It's crazy, dude. And like, I don't understand why this isn't stuff they show on television because this is way more interesting to me. We're talked about it at church.
Starting point is 01:16:18 How about you? Let me know a little bit of that. Yeah. Why not, dude? Let me know a little bit of this, dude. I should just start something where you just talk about all this shit. This is way more interesting to me. Yeah, that's what I always told my preacher, because he had this theory about aliens being demons,
Starting point is 01:16:33 but he would never, he would like, it would be the kind of thing that he would like, you really want to know. Like, he would, you know, he would like not say it around other people. Yeah, he would whisper it. Say it in a Clint Eastwood time. You want to know the truth. I'm like, dude, this should be leading Sunday school. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:16:49 This is fascinating. Well, I get that. I think it's because. it comes from a place and I kind of respect it a little bit as the fact that so I have a podcast I don't have a church congregation that I'm talking to about this stuff so like I can say that hey there's likely some bones to spit out from what we're going to talk about and what we're theorizing about. Great way to put it. So when you think about it like from a perspective of you know I grew up like in the 80s and 90s and then we were going through like what they call the
Starting point is 01:17:16 satanic panic. So like I wasn't allowed to watch He-Man at some point because my parents just said it's demonic. Well I don't think they were a wrong. wrong about that, but I think that's not really a great answer for a kid most of the time. Like, they could have been right, but like, but why is it? And I think this is why, like, when you read, like, a book like the Testament of Solomon, you start to understand, like, why we're seeing certain symbols and sigils all over the place. Like, the idea that the pentagram is used everywhere, like, everywhere. Is that why the, you know, because it's like, that's not the only way to draw a star, but that's the way that we've all learned how to draw a star.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Oh, that's interesting. You know, is this something where it actually does have power in certain people's minds? Now, I think that the important part for a Christian is like that that Solomon is asking these demons, which angel they're frustrated by or which angel they're bound to. And it makes sense that the angels said in, you know, in the book of Enoch in Genesis 6, that these demons likely have their patriarch, their fathers were angels. So there's this hierarchy in the spiritual dimension. So when you write angels' names, or if you ever seen how they write the names of stars and angels,
Starting point is 01:18:29 they're written in sigils. So I think this is why you have this sigil written in order to control this certain spirit, that, of course, if you're chasing clout and money and all the things, I mean, that's what's offered to Solomon in this book. But of course, he's got all that already, so it doesn't really matter. I mean, as a Christian, you have authority over these spirits. because they're all prophesying and they're all saying that eventually they're going to be controlled by Emmanuel.
Starting point is 01:18:57 They're controlled by, and I want to say they said the Gematri of his name might have been, I think it was 644, which I thought was interesting, and the Gematri of EASUS is 888, which is like the number to symbolize infinity. So as a Christian, you don't need all these other esoteric ideas about how to cast out demons or control them because the Holy Spirit and the authority of Christ actually compels them to leave. But it doesn't give you the authority to use them to build your house or to seek riches with. And I think that's obviously why the occultists would use whatever knowledge that separates it from Christ in order to get their bag. And you know, you bring this up about, you know, Christ is brought to, you know, cast out demons.
Starting point is 01:19:48 that was one of his jobs and you know if you want to get into the argument like Jesus or even if you want to go farther God like when you I don't know if it was this show or the other show you mentioned it your friends like I'm an atheist I don't believe you know there's it's simulation blah blah
Starting point is 01:20:04 you know it's like for me one of the greatest arguments for God is that this evil class that runs this world all worship dark arts right they play the game you the symbolism there all the time. And by their own admission, we live in a dualistic world. So if there is
Starting point is 01:20:24 darkness, there must be light. And if there are all these ancient, so if you go, well, you know, Judaism is the real shit, right, if you want to believe that. We can see where Babylon, the Jews were slaves to Babylon. And Babylonian, Babylonian mysticism made its way into Judaism, right? Right. They believe in demons too, dude. they, you know, Solomon was controlling demons. So you're only going to believe part of this story and not the whole story, the parts that conveniently fit your narrative, that doesn't make any sense to me. It's got to be the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:21:04 If there is darkness. Islam obviously believes in demons too. They call them gin. Yep. And what's interesting in this book, there's one account where Solomon is questioned by, like, I think the king of Arabia to go try to bind this. demon who's like a wind spirit. And what he does is he sends one of his servants to go bind him in a flask, in a bottle. And then he captures this gin in a bottle, and he takes it back,
Starting point is 01:21:31 and eventually he controls this spirit too. But it's like, this is this a story about where we get the genies and lamps from? Oh my God. I mean, I think it does. I think that's exactly what they're saying there. It's like, where else do you get that idea from? So that, yes, there is a view in Judaism, in Kabbalah and also in Islam that does correlate to what they believed in Christianity too. But now like you said, they won't talk about this in church. Because it
Starting point is 01:21:58 is a little bit strange, but I mean like this is a belief that's been believed for thousands of years, for sure. They should just have one day at the church maybe a slow day where they were like, today we're going to talk about all the weird stuff. And you just come to hear about the demons
Starting point is 01:22:14 and all that stuff. Like, I would love. There's so much weird. I mean, the witch, the witch at indoor, you know, like that, that whole story is, there's so many passages that, that you, that aren't taught, especially in Protestant congregations and, and, you know, like, I have a ton of mystery and, and I think they're difficult to relate to for modern audiences so that they avoid them and maybe the lessons aren't as relevant because of the age, you know, of the, you know, it's a different time altogether. Right, right, right. Your frame of references. Yeah, but we can enjoy Game of Thrones and they're flying on dragons. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:55 No, that's true. You know, we can be like, well, that's cool. I'd like to do that at some point. Oh, yeah. I think, well, I mean, if you think about it, like the story in the Testament of Solomon is he's got this ring, that's got all this power over all these spirits. So you think about, like, the movie like the Lord of the Rings. It's like, what do you think that's about?
Starting point is 01:23:11 Oh, man. Is that this ring has great power, but eventually it corrupts. And then the story of Solomon is eventually he's corrupted. He's totally corrupted. I mean, the Bible obviously doesn't explicitly state that it was because of the one ring that ruled them all that corrupted him. But this is a story where Solomon is gaining all this esoteric knowledge. And ultimately the source was God, but then he's seeking outside of what God has taught him. And he's going further down the rabbit hole, especially with all this with his 700 wives and his 300 concubines.
Starting point is 01:23:47 and then they're going eventually he's going off with, I want to say it's interesting because the book of Second Kings, it mentions that eventually the Queen of Shiva comes to see how wise Solomon is and to pay reverence to him. And it mentions in the Testament of Solomon that there's this sorceress from the South that comes and visits, and it tells the exact same story. And eventually, you know, it's kind of implied that there's some rendezvous between the two of them.
Starting point is 01:24:15 And this is where eventually Solomon all his canineate wives eventually starts putting up all these high places for these other gods. And it could have been something that, you know, if you start to learn a little bit of this stuff, maybe the thirst for more knowledge, more nosis, lead you to darker places and eventually it turns into corruption. Yeah, isn't that like that Tracy Weinman, Twinman? Isn't that kind of the story of that whole thing? Like, started getting into conspiracies and then she started getting into like the Ouija Blitz. board and all that stuff. And then it just ended badly, sadly. You know, that's crazy.
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Starting point is 01:25:50 All right, guys. What do you think about JT. Files, J.C.? I love that conversation, dude. That was a great conversation. It's like one of those where you just talk about a bunch of stuff and you get a bunch of information out. And he's just really funny.
Starting point is 01:26:04 What do you think about the little season? Where do you fall in there? I'm open-minded to it. And again, I just want to say, we love Ed. Like, I don't want anyone to think there was an attack going on there. No, no, no. I think he knows. Ed Mabry.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Yes. You second-guessed it. You had it right. Oh, okay, dude. We love him. We love him, dude. Think of Andy from Mabry. Okay, Andy from Mabry.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Okay, Andy from Mabry. We love him. We love when he comes on a show. It's an honor to have him on a show. I don't want him to think that that was us throwing disc tracks at him. That's not our style, dude. We love him on the show and where Bless A comes on. And I would love to have that I'm on a show to have a discussion if they would.
Starting point is 01:26:45 I know Ed doesn't like debate. so I don't think it's going to happen. But I really don't want it to be a debate. I just want it to be like, here's my opinion, here's that, and just a discussion. I'd love to do at some point. It would be a fun show. Yeah, I would just wonder, like,
Starting point is 01:27:01 would that be, no one's ever done Christian rap beefs, you know, where they're just like throwing out. I like that. Solomon 445! Dude, I found out recently, and this is, it's been a while ago, but one of the Christian bands that they really tried to push on young,
Starting point is 01:27:16 a church-going folks in the 90s was this band DC Talk. And one of the main guys from that band was hitting on and possibly pushing self on dudes, like on the tour when they were on tour. We found out recently. And I was just, like, I wish I wanted so bad to travel back in the past and be like, this shitty music, this guy is putting his fingers and butts on tour. What do you think about that? You know, it's so funny is, um,
Starting point is 01:27:46 They look pretty edgy, though. DC Talk? Which one was it, Johnny? Let's tell it. Stop. Let's take a guest looking at the picture. Which one do we think is the gay guy? I'm going to go.
Starting point is 01:27:58 I'm going to go. I want to go to the guy in the back. I think he's more of a sex addict than a gay guy. I mean, he's not just gay. Okay. Okay. Based on this ticket, you don't know, go to fucking the colored picture. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:11 I'm going to go with the black guy. Black guy? Lead singer, the skinny white guy, tweaker, a looking vibe. Sam, Sam's right. The black guy was it? Yeah. I mean, dude. Michael Tate.
Starting point is 01:28:22 You live long enough in West Hollywood. Your Gator is fucking strong. He said that he lived a double life and he's working on repentance and healing was what he said in 2025. Or just like love, I mean like. Jesus freak. He was a freak. Yeah, that was one of their big songs. Jesus freak.
Starting point is 01:28:38 It was just, you know, I always go back to that, that smashing, that Billy Corgan quote where he's just like, I think Jesus would like better bands. Look at this one. just all right. Colored people. Jesus is just all right. Colored people. Jesus love, the black. There's a lot of weirdness around.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Say the words. I thought it was say the word. I thought it was the end word. He was also, it's funny. He was so popular. He went and became the lead singer of another huge Christian band that lost their lead singer. That guy.
Starting point is 01:29:08 Like, he was a star. Toby Mac? No, Michael Tate. Oh, really? Michael Tate. He's 60 today. Oh, and Black don't crack, by the way. Yeah, he was really good.
Starting point is 01:29:16 about to say. I was like, there's no way he's 60. Black, don't crack. You can tell all black people are based on their hands. Their hands are the only thing they age. If you're Michael tight, you count the rings, but it's tough. But he was on the new boys. All right, if you go to samtriblyde.com. Newsboys, yeah. You can get all my dates.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Miami, St. Petersburg for Joke World Fest. Lawrence, Kansas. Tulsa, Oklahoma, Dallas for Truth or Con. New Orleans for Skang Fest and an Austin and might be handling one more date. One more day.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Bapapam bum bum bum Bap. I don't even know what song we're doing there. One more time. Oh, I got that. Get on my mailing list, dude. We're sending you. We're sending you. For everybody complaining when Sam goes live, I find out because of this email list.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Thank you. Well, according to your Instagram, we're supposed to be going to do a BS. on Friday also. No, I fixed it. Okay. I saw that. I was like, well, shit. I fixed it. Two of them this week. Well, because I felt we were going to do it, but you're like, no, I want to do it. Well, no, that's not true.
Starting point is 01:30:27 You wanted to do one, but you wanted to do it on Friday. And I was saying that Friday's the most shit day to go live on YouTube, especially in the time. One more time. Johnny, have you gotten the laugh track on your thing at home yet for me? No, no. God, you got to get it, dude. I got it here, I think. I got it here. We're not going to wait for that
Starting point is 01:30:49 Yeah And I guess I don't I thought I used to have laughing You gotta get it Go down Get out my mailing list All my premium content Dude we're talking fire
Starting point is 01:30:58 I gotta get back on the Curb and the Curtin Sam experiment Boy this fucking text thread I'm on Is so fucking deep It's the Sam Tripoli What is it What's it called the turning point Sam Tripoli
Starting point is 01:31:11 TPS USA Dude you should drop a couple A couple screenshots on your No I can't on your premium only. That would be violating the trust, dude. You're just like one of those FBI agents. I don't care how on point my thumbnails are.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Look at that, dude. Your thumbnail game is coming a long way. Yeah. Thank you, AI. Johnny, tell us about Cash Daddies. Yeah, Cash Dads. You can learn how to prepare for retirement. And you can go over to our Patreon. It's Patreon.com slash Cash Daddies, where how he, at the beginning of every year, reveals a portfolio, which this year.
Starting point is 01:31:46 year is beating the S&P. Again? Yeah, again and again. It's his best year so far beating the S&P, Howie. He, yeah, he posts videos several times a week, sometimes multiple times a day. And then we have a Q&A attached to every podcast. We answer your questions every week. Yeah, dog. Yeah, dog.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Yeah, dog. Go down. Go down. Keep going. Keep going. T-shirts. Listen, we got some great T-shirts. We got the Francis Bacon T-shirt.
Starting point is 01:32:23 And then we have the 1,000-th episode, episode, uh, T-shirt available for a limited time, a limited time. Look at that. That's fire. The time is now.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Now until Sam gets tired of making money, and then we'll stop selling it. Okay, but Johnny, fuck you, dude. It's always going to be available. Wise Wolf Gold and Silver, Wolfpack, I'll go samtrably. Go grab that, click the link. Acre, hydrogen, brown gas, Harley Ray for all your crystals, candles, sage.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Count free body, take it every day. Love it. EMF rocks. You want to fight that dirty energy. Brain Supreme. I'm off this week. He's off, dude. That guy's fucking off, dude. Nuke Social is to decentralize social media.
Starting point is 01:33:10 No more algorithm bullshit. No more censorship. You get all my post on there as well. What else? Checking my reaction videos. Actually marks a spot. I just did one with a guy thinks he's part of a GTA. Young A.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Young A. Young A. What are you doing? Like, kind of like police cam footage is? Yeah, basically I'm finding out. I'm clipping it so I get all the good parts. It's not like the long thing. How long is the video?
Starting point is 01:33:38 Fifteen minutes. Okay, good. That's cool. That's good, dude. That's good shit, dude. New BS is out. Check that out. It'll be.
Starting point is 01:33:46 following you home. Check it out. It's waiting for you. There it is. Everybody who's asking, what is Sam thing about the Charlie Kirk fucking trial? Go to Broken Sam. Yeah. I had some guy in the I had some guy on what show was it. I forget what show I was doing live.
Starting point is 01:34:01 He was like, why don't you guys ever talk about Black Rock? I'm like, we don't talk about Black Rock. Yeah, how he had to tell us to stop talking about BlackRock we talk about it so much. Real quick, guys. World War debate. You got to grab your tickets now, dude. Well, you got, it's coming, dude, and it's going to be blow mine, blow everyone
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Starting point is 01:34:51 Keep it to yourself. Call your best friend, yell and scream. Dude, that mega flood one is a fire thumbnail. Fire thumbnail. Oh, yeah, that is good. The Grimerica Boys, fire thumbnail. Some guy commented that they were going to stop listening because of the AI thumbnails. And I'm like, dude, if that's enough to make you stop listening to a podcast, you were never, you were never.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Yeah, I mean, like, dude, it's like they're, fire thumbnails. They're fired thumbnails. Who cares if a demon made them? And they also don't, people, people don't understand. If you've done Photoshop, what AI is doing is just quicker. Quicker. I've tried Photoshop.
Starting point is 01:35:29 This does it and so fast with something. I'm like, I don't even blame people that use AI. Bro, it's so much. Like, I watched. Go to BS. Find the BS one. Go to Sam Tripoli. Go YouTube Sam Tripoli.
Starting point is 01:35:38 There's this YouTube channel that, that does special effects. And they just did a ranking, a. tier list, which is what I want us to start doing, Sam on BS. No go doubt. They did a tier list of resurrected stars. Do you get what I'm saying? People that have been brought back to life in movies. Yeah, right there. Look at that fire thumbnails that Johnny's making there.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Oh, and that's not me. Well, they're cash daddy's one's fire. Why don't you like that? Sometimes Johnny makes me fatter in the fucking thumbnail. It's funny. You sent me a text one time like a couple weeks ago. Like, I will get revenge on you for this thumbnail. Like I'm doing it on purpose.
Starting point is 01:36:16 I honestly just go for the first one where I try to find a screenshot of you looking like emotive somehow. I don't care what face you're making. And then I stick it in there. It's not any kind of intentional making you look stupid thing. All right. But what I was saying was there's this YouTube channel where these guys do special effects and try to reproduce special effects for movies. And they were ranking the resurrections like Paul Walker and Fast and Furious when they brought Princess Leia back for Star Wars for the scenes.
Starting point is 01:36:44 that they brought, excuse me, Elvis back for a fucking Pizza Hut commercial in the 90s, and they like rank them. And the crazy thing is even the ones that were done on budgets of millions of dollars, like Star Wars just a few years ago, AI, you could show them a fucking picture of Princess Lear right now, and it would look far better than anything an army of people could have done. I just think it's a tool. It's so much better. Johnny, how honestly, if you.
Starting point is 01:37:14 you look at that rat and's too damn high right yes how long would it take you to do that in photoshop at least 40 minutes well at least johnny well well what what now the the thumbnail like howie on the left that's just me that's a screenshot of him from from the video sharpened with a i the cash teddy you got to have that logo already they're already the divider in the middle is always as part of a template the text is part of a template that i just changed every week. And then the part on the right, now that's AI generate. Now I would have to find it. I've done it before though. But yeah, it would take like, yeah, like you said, probably 40 minutes,
Starting point is 01:37:53 30, 40 minutes. Yeah, it's like I would pull an arrow in. We're doing 90 podcasts a week, guys. We're doing 90 podcasts a week. Yeah, it's not. If I was a professional thumbnail maker, yeah, I wouldn't do it all myself. But I, that's just one element of. But you're here for the video and the audio. We're just giving you a, yeah, again, we're arguing with one dip shit. Like, you know, Who cares? We don't think you're dipshit, dude.
Starting point is 01:38:18 We just think you don't do this. You don't realize how long it takes to make these thumbnails. You know? It's like fucking stupid. Anyways, back to the show. J.T. Files, J.C. is a fucking great guy. Great content creator. I can't recommend his stuff enough.
Starting point is 01:38:38 I always enjoy his clips. They're on Doom scrolling all the time. And I think he's just great, dude. What kind of stuff does he talk about typically, like that you pull on Doomscrawling? Well, you know, he came on an episode and talked about how all the Marvel comics are old Greek gods. Oh, I remember that. Yeah. Like, that's fun stuff.
Starting point is 01:38:58 I love that, yeah. Yeah, I think he's really good. I think it's a lot of fun. I think he brings a fun view of trying to understand, like, modern culture through Christianity. I like it. I enjoyed it. I thought it was fun. I think he's a good contact creator.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Anyways, great show. Hope you guys enjoyed it. And all of that was super deep, dude. Super deep. Dude, we've been putting out bangers lately. Bang, dude. That was like Michael Tate, DC Talk Deep. That was Michael Tate, DC Talk Deep, dude.
Starting point is 01:39:29 I don't even know what that means, but I'm in. Right up some dancers, bung. That's the Christian rapper, singer guy who was going deep backstage, let's say. Not some stripper, though. Male stripper, just a jiggle-o. and everywhere I'll go, people know the butt I bring. Enjoy these highlights.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Here's a clip from the latest broken sim. And it goes into this thing that they've been paying for the anti-Semitism, right? And it's kind of crazy because I'm watching these people who made their bones on being anti-Semitic suddenly defending T.P. USA
Starting point is 01:40:10 along with the Zionists. It's very weird to me. me. What do you think that is? Who are you talking about, by the way? I'm not talking about anybody, Johnny. I'm curious. Okay? I'm not talking about anybody. Okay, I'll give you one person. Nick Flentes.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Right? Like the shit coming out of that guy's mouth? Luke Cage, the shit comes to those guys your mouth. It's fucking crazy to me. He just sat down with Hunter Biden. And now I have heard that they may be almost got in a fisticuffs.
Starting point is 01:40:41 I would love. Who who do you got in that fight? Oh, it's Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden all fucking day, dude. Catboy getting his ass beat. Look at this. From Happy Gilmore. Somebody tweeted a picture of Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell,
Starting point is 01:40:57 and then Chubbs Alligator from Happy Gilmore. I want somebody make a video in a fucking anonymous mask going, they're moving the chess boards on the global marketplace. They're moving it. Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, were very strong proponents of the fiat currency by taking them out they can now move forward with bringing into crypto. I'm like, dude, come on, bro.
Starting point is 01:41:23 I mean, come on. Come on. It's a little too much. Now, uh, here's, here's a photo. But Johnny, let me ask you something. Yeah, go ahead. Let's just say that Mitch McConnell and, and we're in another dimension. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:38 Right. And they weren't pieces of shit. Let's just say they were just, they did. it right and then go to heaven do they get to do weird stuff up there is like it's like oh yeah now you can do it you had to just play the game to get in and now you're in you can just stick your dick wherever you want i don't think i don't think there is hmm no i don't think so so same no i don't think you don't think it's a giant swingers club up there nobody gets pregnant no i i well no i think you got better stuff to do you know those are all like base desires when you're in like low energy states
Starting point is 01:42:11 and I don't. Okay. So if I go to heaven, I'm going to stop thinking about hitting that ass? You're going to have higher pursuits in mind? I believe so. I don't know that. Oh, so you're saying in hell? I'm going to want to hit that ass? You're going to wish you could. Someone's going to be hitting my ass, and I ain't going to be happy with that. Yeah, probably something closer to that, I would guess.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Here's an image, by the, they did that Channel 5 thing, which that guy's everywhere. You guys everywhere. We're all Kendall, somebody said in it. So this guy, Channel 5. five. I actually like him. I do too. Yeah. But he tried to embarrass G. Edward, uh, G. Edward, uh, G.
Starting point is 01:42:49 Edward Griffin, which is a sin that is unforgivable. Oh, really? I haven't seen that. Yeah. And Jason Burmiss showed up and cocked and just put his foot in his ass to stop it. Because Jason knew what he's doing. And Jason is a great guy. Like literally a fucking wonderful human being. I'm not even kidding. Like, there's a lot crazy people in the conspiracy world. Jason is one of the fucking good ones. You know? I can find it.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Yeah. You see Channel 5 G. Edgar Griffin see if you can find it. And Jason Burmiss walks up and curb stomps this motherfucker motherfucker. So this motherfucker is cooking with gas. And then he gets so big the HBO hires him. And this is how you know that January
Starting point is 01:43:31 6 is a sciop because they sent this guy in to cover it. You're like, how'd you know how was going to go? Why would you send a fucking camera guy in there? So they send him in there. And right after that he gets me too and you think he would learn it's like and i love louis c k but it's like when louis c k got canceled he tried to send biden money and biden sent it back to him you're like dude what are you doing they canceled you why are you still playing the game but anyways this guy is the king
Starting point is 01:44:00 he's made great edits so anyways he's getting sued right now by supposedly by somebody for what he says is absolute insanity. His words, not mine. And if you watch it, it's very interesting. If you find his like Instagram where he talks about it, he's had to spend $800,000 defending himself so far. I'm still trying to find the original video. I can't fight.
Starting point is 01:44:26 You said Jason Burmese, Jason Burmiss came in? Yeah, go Channel 5G Edward Griffin. Is it the Red Pill Expo? is that it? Yeah. Okay, I got it here. Now, if you know this guy's, if you know this guy's style, his whole thing is to like make people fucking look stupid. And you shouldn't do it to an
Starting point is 01:44:53 absolute national treasure. Like one of the greatest ever do it, G. Edward Griffin, who is a fucking national treasure. You shouldn't try to embarrass an old man with your stupid-ass questions to make him look stupid. Yeah, sorry. I'm just. trying to now is was jason actually okay here we go i think this is it right here let me just kill that share i believe this is it jason a multi-time guest on tinfoil hat his trailer for
Starting point is 01:45:26 this place rules no bring that up in the background no this might i don't think this is it go farther down it he might be farther into it because he brings it up oh no there it is there it is there it is so so he this is jason he's fucking great burmiss and like look he's interviewing him and we all know that he's a fuck he sets these people up to look stupid the channel five guy does yeah this is a long tradition of it's a format that i've never cared for much i know you like it more than i do if you want to go get drunk college kids to look like retards that's one thing well no but it comes from like eric and zach alfanacus and and colbert Stephen colbert from before where to varying degrees the people were playing along.
Starting point is 01:46:12 But he's, you know, you could say Tom Green, but Tom Green is not, Tom Green wasn't humiliating people intellectually. You know what I mean? It was more about how absurd Tom Green was. This guy is trying to like embarrass people oftentimes and makes it look much worse in the edit. Anyway, anyway, so this is, yeah, this is the guy from Channel 5 whose name I could never remember and the channel 5 guy yeah the audio is really poor here yeah if you fast forward
Starting point is 01:46:48 forward you'll see jason shows up keep going keep going keep going keep going on the other side of town oh they got rid of it go there it is there it is if you'd like to hear the rest of this episode subscribe to broken simulation in your podcasting app or check a out at YouTube.com slash Sam Tripoli.

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