Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #1012: The Illusion Of Choice With Tony Arterburn

Episode Date: August 14, 2026

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Tinfoil hat. Oh, what the fuck are you guys people talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to tinfoil half. We go deep, home boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge.

There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional This is only the beginning. Dude, you just blew my mind. All right, we're back and welcome to Tim Fall Hat live. From the Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Studios. That's right. Go to Samtripple E.D.G use a promo code Timfell

and you too could get in on the Pressmanels game for his little's $50 a month sent right directly to your door. Very excited to be back. I know some of you guys think I'm dead and gone. I mean, you guys are doing in-memorium for my shows, dude. It was two weeks off, guys. I get it. I appreciate the...

I do really do appreciate the passion. I wish you would trust me. You will know when it's over. If it's ever over, when it's over, you will know. There will be no, like, oh, is it over? You're like, there'll be an announcement. You grew a mustache. You know, so it's really crazy.

Great to be back in the studio. Happy to be back with the boys. Happy to have our guest in. He's been on a couple times. times and we're very excited to have back from Wiseworth Golden Silver. Tony Otterburn, how are you, buddy? I'm doing great, Sam. Thanks for having me back.

Actually, this is the fourth time. In studio. This is the third time for Beans. Beans is back for the third time. It's good to have both you guys here. You know what I'm saying? It's a blessing. And I think you've been in studio more than anybody else.

Is that true? I think we've had Jay Dyer. We had, uh, what's his face? Is, no, his ice is? No, he's been in the old studio. I don't think Eddie's even been in this one. No. Okay.

Yeah, dude. It must be royalty, buddy. Hey, man, it's an honor. What can I say? You know, I was reading one of my favorite books from the 1920s other day. It's by Will Durant. It's called The Story of Philosophy. And I've been reading that for 20-something years.

And imagine my surprise when I found out that you're Sir Francis Bacon. I couldn't believe it. So I did this live and I was at my mom's house. And I went in there and I'm like, Mom, am I Sir Francis Bacon? She's like, no. Who is that? That's where it's gone to. The Fizz flat earth has reached my mother.

That's great. And now he's going after like everybody. And it's just like how to, you know, it's just crazy. But, you know, I want to tell you something. So we went out to dinner. You brought your friend, Heather Locklear, and that was a lot of fun. And I felt like bad because I felt this incredible pressure to entertain her. Did you?

Yeah. I mean, it's like I grew up. loving this one. And I just, I hope I didn't like monopolize the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, it's Heather Locklear, we got to make her laugh. No, I, I thought she did great. I mean, I, I, I knew that, that you guys would have a lot in common, because she told me stories about, you know, just comedy and things that she loved and obviously Hollywood and entertainment, but, uh, she went to, she was a real fan of Sam Kinnison. I know that she was, she was, she, she, she was, she, her prime was, she, she, she, her prime was

during like the greatest time ever. Like she lived an amazing life. She's still living, but, you know, it's like such a blessing. Yeah, she's an amazing human being. And I'm glad we got to. That was what September of last year? Yeah, wow, time flies, huh? I know.

It's unbelievable. But it's also like, as I get older, you know, there's a lot of people like, oh, I'm getting old. I'm sad. I'm like, I'm good, dude. Like, I did it all a thousand times and I'm ready just to chill. So I couldn't imagine, like, she did it. She has to be like, I'm cool.

I'm down. And she's super zen. And I think there's a lot of respect for her. There's a lot of wisdom there. I mean, she's 18 years older than me. I met her on a plane coming back from your tinfoil hat. So I think it was like December, it was December 5th of 2024. And we just hit it.

I had my dog with me and just hit it off. That's got to be the funniest thing ever. Because when you sit in a plane, you're like, please let me sit next to a hot chair. Mostly so they don't take up all the seed. Right? You're like tiny hot chicks. And then Heather Locklear sits next to you. You're like, that is the top of the top right there. I mean, I was on a flight to Miami.

It was all OnlyFans models. It's the craziest. Like, is this a flight or a bang bus? Like, what are we doing here? But I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're the first episode back from our tiny little break, even though it wasn't much of a break. But I'm glad you're here because the world is chaotic, dude.

It's a really crazy time. and I'm glad we can sit down and talk to you about it. You know, you were nice enough to sponsor the First World War Debate. You've been sponsoring the contender series, which is really great. And the reason I really love you, buddy, is that you remind me of a couple of people in the conspiracy world who are like, and maybe I don't want to put words in your mouth,

but maybe you can answer it. Politically atheist. Like the understanding that, like, Like, nobody's coming to save us, you know? And this idea that we can vote our way out of this is kind of chaotic to me and stupid. Am I, would I say that's correct or do you? 100%. I mean, to my own detriment.

We do. Because I started out years ago. I mean, my first broadcasting stint and radio was 14 years ago in a radio station out of Dallas. And I was already like the black sheep. I mean, they already knew I was going to be different. then they just started to hate me over time. I think about six months in, they're like, well, wait, we got a combat veteran who's anti-war.

The guy wants to bring back the jobs and he doesn't like free trade agreements. This is before Trump. This is before that all came on the scene. And I just remember just being so, like, feeling so isolated. I'm like, I'm not partisan. So that was a big red flag for them because, you know, the partisanship, and especially in like conservative talk is their moneymaker. It's how they made their, now it's dying, by the way.

like they reached like total entropy so like the whole thing is falling apart the entire narrative you know because used to it was the it was the subtle behind the scenes understanding that okay once you reach a certain level we're going to fly to Israel you need to go and kiss the wall and do that and then that was like conservative commentating like in the major companies and it floats through most of talk radio and then up to Fox News and you have to be pro war so like I was never going to be invited anyway. And then, you know, along the way, even with MAGA and other things, I supported Trump early, like in 2016. Right. And I'd run for Congress and I decided I'm going to be the first candidate to support Trump. You know, he was in the primary, like before Super Tuesday, before when he was

still getting flack from the establishment, which I don't even know if it was real now. I don't know. I'm all, this is all scripted, dude. I just remember making a decision early on. I'm like, okay, this is becoming cultish. And this, I think partisanship is where. any sort of real thinking goes to die. Like you just, you stop having any sort of discernment. And I just said, I'm not going to follow this. And I used to be a fill-in host.

That was my first, like, out of radio, my second iteration was, I was on Info Wars as a fill-in host for, you know, I probably used to 100 hours of broadcasting. I fill in for David Knight or Owen Troyer. Those, those are great people. But I just remember, I had to make a decision. I don't believe the stuff that would have gotten me all the views, right?

And that's why I brought up the, you're the Sir Francis Bacon. I mean, the entire, the entire narrative has gotten stupid. I'm sorry, like even in our space, in alternative media, like it's gotten really dumb. And I don't know if they're just doing that to muddy everything, just to, it's kind of like Q was with, you know, trust the plan. And like, here's something real. Like, here's the conspiracy to set up the Federal Reserve. and also JFK Jr's alive. You know, it's like, and when you take those two things, they cancel each other out.

And I think that's the whole, like, a limited hangout. It's the point of it. But, yeah, I just, I feel like things are, you have to be more and more careful about who you listen to. And I know, like, the people that I know, 100% genuine like you, I mean, again, you're not going to say something that you don't believe just to get clicks or just to get following. And so many people will.

It's crazy to me. So we talk about it a lot on a lot of my shows about like these contact creators who have blown up and whether you should trust them or not. And I'm always like, I'll listen until you do fake the funk on a nasty dunk, which is from an old Shaquille O'Neal commercial. Will Chamberlain's like, what's the code word? Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk. So Tucker Carlson just interviewed Hunter Biden. And like, whoever Hunter Biden's PR person is, they deserve a. award like right now like just make up an award show and give it to them but like when i talk about

faking the funk and a nasty dunk to for tucker carlson to speak into a microphone and say that the laptop story was an israeli-op to destroy the bidenes now i'm not saying israel didn't want to destroy the bidenc but to sit there and say that that wasn't real when some guy took all the content from there put it on a website and you could literally go through everything that was on there is literally like what I talk about like okay now we have to question everything that comes out of this motherfucker's mouth and this is the guy who's starting to have on like friends of mine on a show so is there an opportunity that maybe at some point I could have gone on there yeah but I'm not going to not call him out on that that's egregious to sit there and cover for this motherfucker who's getting foot jobs from his

dead brother's daughter, dude. Like, this is who we're dealing with. Why aren't you asking them, why do you have the finger legs tattooed on your back? The place where people go missing all the time. Why is it on your fucking back, man? Explain it to you. People can go, say,

why do you have a tram stamp? It's not a tramp stamp. It's a champ stamp. And it's for my dead friend that didn't get enough love when he passed away. So people will ask me and I can tell him about my friend Jeff Scott. I'll tell you why I got that particular tattoo. Why do you have the finger legs tattooed on your back? Why is it anyone asking this motherfucker that?

Why did you just tell everyone of your listeners and your huge, huge, huge reach that what happened to Hunter Biden is literally a fucking sigh up? It's fucking bullshit, dude. And that's where you go, I can't trust anything comes out of your mouth after that. Yeah, it's tough anymore. And you have to look, I mean, Tucker originally was so anti-9-11 truth. I mean, he just dug his own hole there. That's why so many people in our space are like, yeah, whatever. I mean, even when he's come this far, now he's, I was talking to Richard Gage,

formerly architect. Yeah, we've had my couple times. Great guy. He was on America Unplugged, and Donald Jeffries was interviewing him, and he was saying that I think Tucker's going to be at his next event, if I'm not mistaken. At least that's what it was, they were. communication. So I mean, that's, we've come a long way and I think the issue now is that we're reaching, you know, this unveiling. I think that's what the, the definition of the apocalypse is.

It's not like the end of time or Armageddon. It's, it's the unveiling. So I think a lot of people, like the scales have fallen from people's eyes. I mean, it's a great question on Hunter Biden, right? And same thing with Candace Owens had Hunter Biden on. I will say from what, when he, when he's on these shows, it really makes me think I was, you know, again, even me like trying to navigate all this and not be captured by the fulcrum of what I'm supposed to believe in the narrative machine. Like, I'm supposed to hate Hunter Biden, right? I'm supposed to. I'm supposed to not like this guy. I can feel that programming in my, even with me not wanting to be programmed, I can feel like, why are you talking to him? He's part of the Biden crime family, all this stuff.

So it leads to a deeper question is like how many siops have been running at the same time? You know that I think it was during the like 2021 or 22, the Biden administration, the executive branch sent out a memo to all executive branch offices asking them to send back what siops they were running because no one knew which ones were real. Who did that? Who sent out their email? No, it was a memo from the Biden administration. because they were running so many siops inside siops and they don't want to figure out what was real.

Yeah, I covered that years ago. They were confused because every branch runs its own narrative, right? Yeah. And then some of them are, and we've become so bloated and top heavy. And by the way, thanks for sending the catering truck to pick me up today.

It was a good diversion. You know, Hollywood Boulevard's not as safe as it used to be. Did you see where Trump has had to take the catering truck out? Oh yeah, and then he's golfing next to like giant weapons vehicles. Have you seen this? It's crazy. Yeah. What is that even for?

Like, what was that going to stop? Oh, the giant missile truck stop. It's crazy to me. I mean, we're just supposed to soak all this stuff. And there's, it's, it's all running at once, you know, like, so it's hard to discern what's real, like, what's an actual threat. Is this for effect? So, I mean, again, like, we're just being, we're being played and primed for something. Like, we were talking off the air, you know.

Something. thing. And you know it's so funny. You talk about like sci-ups and si-ups. It's kind of like when you hear like the FBI arrests, the ATF. And because they're both running both sides of this thing. It's like the Spider-Man meme. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a great point, dude. I would love to see that email. Everyone's like, all the si-ups. They're like, and then you just connect people who are running si-ups against each other. That's like in the halls of government, that's probably a good dating site. idea like siops only or something like if you're in a siop and you want to connect with other people in siops and it's like how deep is the like what is real and like to me is like nothing our culture is so obviously manufactured that's the trap though and it's like if it's so much like

i go on air now and i just see like in the comment sections and like that guy's a shill that guy's a shill this isn't real i'm like have we just created nihilism like we're nothing is real and nothing matters. I'm like, guys, things matter. I mean, the whole point of why they run SIOPS is to get you to do a certain thing. If they didn't care, if you were already, like,

if this was a foregone conclusion, then they wouldn't give a shit. That's a great point. And in particular, when it comes to elections, it's like, if elections aren't real, and I'm saying, like, I've really given up on them. Maybe that's just blackpilled at that point, but

why do they spend so much money on these elections? And I think it is, it's not the election that matters, but your participation in the election. That's the most important thing because it keeps you in the duality of right versus left. Yeah, it's like the illusion of choice. Like you can have Trump or you can have Biden. You can win or you can lose. Wait if you lose both.

I mean, what if you, I think there's a reason why they keep third parties out of the debates. Like you have to hit a certain threshold because a narrative, like a question asked in front of the American people would change everything. Like they stopped doing that after Perrault, if you notice. Yeah, it's the reason they elbowed our boy, Spencer Pratt, out of the mayor election because they didn't want those questions being asked of Karen Bass from now until the runoff. I think it's the reason that Donald Trump entered the 2000 election because Pat Buchanan had that. the nomination of the Reform Party. That was what the remnants of what Ross Perrault set up in Buchanan had was loaded for bear, ready to go.

All he wanted was to make the threshold to enter the debate. He wasn't even, he knew he couldn't win. He just wanted to take down the major candidates and show them how corrupt, how stupid they were, or just how ill-informed or the inability to truly answer questions. And Pat had that. And Trump showed up and just destroyed every organizational part of what the reform party was and then just left. Like he called a

Buchanan a Hitler lover because he wrote a book called a Republic not an empire that year. And it was just about America first foreign policy. You know how we could have avoided World War II. And that was you know, Trump didn't read it obviously but he just came out and said. Yeah, they gave him

talking points. And he just took down Buchanan and then just left and left it in shambles and there was no you know real chance of him making the debates, which is all that wanted. If we had some sort of cohesive movement and then you could reach a platform, which I think now that the mainstream media is disintegrating before our eyes, I think that's why they're trying to capture this space. I think it's really important for them to capture alternative media. So how would you

do that? Well, you make it look really stupid. You know, like you're Sir Francis Bacon. Like I mean, I bring this up because I mean, you are. are spot on with that. And I do believe that is that guy's purpose. And I don't want to get into it right now because I don't know when I'm at, but I've heard stuff about him before the content creating that people really knew about it. They'd be like, oh, really? And it's like, it's, it's very interesting. I know people want me to say it right now, but I'm holding it right now. But when you look at the guy who has, I don't know how many followers you have on Instagram. I don't know how much Instagram is a big part of what you do, right? I have almost 200,000, right? This is from a guy that got, like, lost his Instagram for a while, and I had to pay three grand to get it back, you know, but you look at this guy, he's got like almost, it's either almost 600,000 or 700,000, like is, that's unheard of.

Well, then they've got these new TikTok people. It's like they just discovered stuff, but then, again, they take what's real. And David Knight has brought this up many times. if you want to destroy the truth. The truth is like a loaf of bread, right? It's beautiful, it's wholesome. And then if you put a roach in there and then tie the bag and throw it to somebody, nobody wants the loaf of bread, right? And I think a lot, I don't know, I can't speak for a lot of the new content creators. I'm sure some of them mean well, but if you take stuff that is not verified and you run with it because you get clicks, you take something, like I was reading the other day, I was rereading a book from the 90s from Jim Mars, you know, Rule by Secrecy, about Secretist societies so well researched i mean it's like my friend donald jeffreys wrote hidden history you've had

yeah i love love don he's one of the old school guys it's it's it's it's verifiable you know at least his sources he's citing stuff which is the way that we used to do it and now it's just you take stuff that decades and decades of people doing hard work and the like anthony sutton you know uh the wall street and the rise of hitler and wall street you know like uh none dare call a conspiracy with gary Now, nobody does that anymore, some people do, but it's not popular. But the real thing is reach. Like, everyone's all excited that Hollywood's disintegrating. And I get that because they just put out dog shit, right?

And it's like, you have, there's, you're not operating in a business mode. You're operating in a propaganda most. And you're, you're only upset right now, not because the money you're losing, but because the reach is going. Nobody, nobody watched one bat left or another. It lost a gazillion dollars. They don't care about that because they're just spending fed funny money. It's just press a button and you clean up all the red. They don't care about that. They can't reach you anymore. They've done this narrative so much that everyone's over. It takes something like the Odyssey, which, you know, Johnny, Johnny told me it was great. I went and saw I liked it. Okay. I get that

there's some shit in there that maybe people listen to this don't like. but it was a good movie. I enjoyed the movie. It was two and a half hours. I enjoyed watching it. But the other stuff is just such dog shit. What about the Spider-Man? The Spider-Man.

Everyone keeps talking. That one's great. That's good. Yeah, I want to go see it. That's what it takes like something like that or a Godzilla movie to get me to the movie theater, right? It's like, because I know a Godzilla movie's going to be great. Even a shitty Godzilla movie is fucking fire, right? But they've just burnt it.

There's no reach anymore. Not and even like, you know, I fly all the time. They'll give you free movies watch. I watch movies. I'm like, that's a great movie. Why didn't do well? Because they have no clue how to market it anymore. They're such, their brand is so dead.

It takes almost like a known brand to get people to spend the $50 or whatever it takes to go watch a movie when it's meant to be only $10. You know, it's like crazy to me. But so Hollywood's dying. Guess what's taking its place? These platforms. Right. And the platforms are even worse than Hollywood because they're using AI.

So it's like it's not going to be whether you put out good content or not. It's whether this AI sees you as a proof. So Johnny, I was going to talk about this on Broken Sim, but I'll talk about it here briefly. So I'm in a situation on Instagram where they won't allow me to pin certain videos. I have a video that might go to a million. It won't let me pin it. And I go there and you can see this thing where it's like, The AI will break down your video, like what the content of it.

So one day I'm like, I'll see what the video says about this. I have a pronoun bit. My pronouns are real M word, right? Just exploded on the internet. People losing their fucking skulls. I go to the AI to see the description of it. It literally says racist bit by a guy on a super edgy comedy tour, which is hilarious because one, it's a throw-up bit.

Two, there's no black people harmed in that bit. And I've been doing the same thing. A racist tour, what, for 32 years? You should put that on a T-shirt. You should put that on a fucking T-shirt. You know what, Johnny, I should put that on a fucking T-shirt. That would be awesome. Just click it and put it right out of the shirt.

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And what they really want is stupid to rain. Exactly. And these guys think they're doing something. They think because they have a bazillion followers. The governor is off. They're just full throttled. And then if you're actually digging deep. Of course, I think a lot of times, too, maybe I'm a little cynical, but I think the

truth has a greater supply than demand sometimes because it can be kind of ugly. I mean, if you really dig into the minutia, like, of what is true? Like, what is truth? And I try to do that with my business, my life. What is true? Right. That's what Pontch's pilot asked Jesus, you know? What is truth?

I think that a lot of these things get a free pass because they take something that is harmful to the ruling class and then make it a caricature. They make it a fun house mirror version because they put that roach in the loaf of bread. That's what I think. They're coming for this space because, like, this is where truth goes. I mean, it goes because you're free thinking. And I know you personally. I know a lot of people in this space, like people like Charlie Robinson, you know, like, that's his whole life. And he's like dedicated to the truth and finding out what really happened.

What is history? And, you know, they take that, that a beautiful thing that was built and they're morphing it into something else. If we let them do it. Because it's going to come with the stuff that's ridiculous. and I find it's ruining what, you know, researchers have done for a decade upon that hard work and being ostracized. I mean, you imagine, like, look at Tucker. Let me go back to Tucker Carlson.

He's able to have some real, I mean, stuff that if you just said five years ago, you know, this is what Tucker is going to be talking about? I've been like, is he okay? Did he have a stroke? I mean, what happened? You know, because, but I find it interesting. I want him to do that because, look, you know, the perfect. is the enemy of the good.

There is no one arbiter. It's one of my favorite movies, 13 days about the Cuban Missile Crisis. Love it. Isn't that a great movie? Absolutely. I used to watch it over and over again. I'll tell you a story about that movie here in a second,

but I want to finish my thought. You know, they have this scene where Ken O'Donnells and Robert F. Kennedy and JFK are in the Oval Office, and they're fighting the Joint Chiefs and everybody. They all want to hit, you know, air strikes followed by invasion. You know, they don't want to deal. And they're like, hey, there is no wise old man. There's just us.

Like, they're looking around, like, nobody's coming to save us. We're in charge, and there is nobody to go ask. You know, and I think that falls on us right now, those of us who really care about the next generation or what happens. Like, we really care. And I think that, you know, it's irresponsible if you haven't dug deep enough, you know, in your, if it's in your soul that you know this isn't right. you shouldn't publish it. I mean, some people are maybe stupid enough to think that it's real. I don't know.

But we have to also call people out. We have to police ourselves. But there is no one person that's going to show up. I mean, I hope that that lesson's been learned with Donald Trump. I hope people understand now. There is no white night. There is not. It's just us.

We look in the mirror and then you'll find who's going to come save you. That's just you. That reminds me of, is it called leave the world behind? Johnny, is that the Netflix movie? I believe so, right? The one with the Obama's produced. Yeah, and, you know, it's the Obama's. You can say whatever you want.

And, you know, I watched it, and it was okay. But, man, there was this moment in the movie. I've said this a bunch of times where Julie Roberts is talking to the guy that was going to play Blade. Do you remember what the actor's name is, Johnny? Oh, no. The black actor?

Yeah, I know you're talking about. Well, he's looking at that. I'll tell you that story about the 13 days. When I got out of the military, it was like 2004. I got my last tour. I got back from Iraq. I bought a house in North Texas.

It was like built in the 1880s, and it's in a town called Bonham. And I watched that movie. I stayed up late, watched the movie, just drinking a little bourbon. You know, I think I was like 25. And I just stayed up late. I love history, so I stayed up late. And the next day, I go take a walk to the downtown. It's all historic.

You know, this has been there since the 1860s, you know, so it's a really beautiful town in North Texas. And I'm walking towards the downtown, and a newspaper is flowing down the street, just like, you know, like a tumbleweed. And it hits my boot, and I notice it's a little age, so I pick it up. And it was a newspaper article front page from the Dallas Times Herald about the blockade. That's crazy. So it was a newspaper floating around in Texas in 2005.

about what was happening in in 1961. Whoa, that's crazy. What are the odds of that? That is crazy. And I saved it. It's somewhere in my archive. I just remember, I go, this is so weird.

You know, my life has been like that a lot. Like, I just, I think maybe subconsciously I pick up on stuff or whatever. Synchronicities. It's happened to me a lot. Herschel Ali, by the way, Sam. Yeah, so in that movie, going back to what you said, is he has a moment where,

he's talking about how he had this billionaire friend and they're really close and then one day he calls him and he spooked and he basically tells you know and the whole thing is that he told him that you know everyone wants to know who runs the world and the answer is nobody right and like there's no one at the at the wheel and that kind of remind me what you said right there i'm starting to really think that i i think you know i i sat down for almost three hours with David Ike back in March I flew over to England I'm friends with Gareth Ike and he gave me an invite the previous year and I finally made it happen it was so intricate I've been following David Ike for years and years and he talks about the pyramid and the cult and I do believe like

philosophically that's where you get you know the the the downflow of things like the Illuminati like the what they believe like the secret societies and other things but then you have to wonder like humans are just subject to change like anything else and there's entropy so like each generation becomes like a copy of a copy. I don't think they get stronger or smarter. Whoever the 300 families are or whatever you want to get into, I think there's some real disintegration and some entropy and even the money that they've hoarded and all the things that the generational wealth, which is, you know, like we think Elon Musk or the people think Elon Musk is the world's richest man. Not even close, man. Not even close, dude. I mean, it's like the generational

hundreds of trillions and markets that they control. But I think there's just, there's a breakdown. I don't know that maybe it's gotten away from them, maybe the information age or whatever, just mass consciousness in general. Or maybe the further they get down the timeline, they realize that, and I, gosh, you know, it's funny, there is no atheist movement anymore. Have you noticed that? There is, I mean, I used to watch, like, Christopher Hitchens and those guys go at it. And I was never an atheist, obviously. But I was fine.

Their arguments against religions fascinating and stuff. And they would, I mean, I liked Christopher Hitchens. mind. Me too. He was very smart. But now you fast forward all these years and nobody talks about that anymore because things are so weird that you cannot ascribe it to anything other than there's a metaphysical presence in our existence.

In this dimension, we're getting and maybe, you know, it's funny, I read a book, Stephen King, which I'm not a fan of, but he wrote a book called The Stand back in the 80s and I listened to it on Audible back in 2020 during the scamdemic. and it's about like a lab leak of a virus that gets out. It's called Captain Trips because they tripped over something. And it's like killing off humanity. And the Antichrist figure in that book's named Randall Flagg. And he's, he's to call him the walking man.

He wears cowboy boots. And he's out in the desert, right? He just kind of goes from place to place and messes things up. You know, like that's what he does. But in that time when humanity is being like cold off, he gets his powers back. Like he can levitate. So like the closer he gets to the culmination or the end or end days or whatever, like there's an unveiling for him too. Like, and it's maybe for everybody.

Like the closer we get to some sort of awakening or whatever it is, like there's more magic. You know, there's something to that, Sam. So you bring up some really great points. First of all, what I find very interesting is that Hollywood and, you know, in a weird way the internet has taken over the atheist movement. And a lot of these atheists are very pro-Israel, which is a very weird thing to me, how you could not believe in God, but believe God gave the rights to this religious group. And it's the mental gymnastics on that is very interesting. thing. I wish I had Bill Maher in the in the OR the comedy store. I called him retarded on stage in front of the hookers he was with. But I wish I would have asked him that from stage. Bill, can I ask you a question? How can you be Zionist and also believe that land is owed to people because God promised to them? At this stage, don't you just like cancel out just about everything that you are if you're just unapologetically Zionist in a way? Like if you look at,

what's happened. It's AIDS of your content. It's literally going to kill you. Even though I don't believe in AIDS, but, you know, it's the death of it. And we just see people, because there's so much money in it. And like, you know, the Candace Owens, people will listen maybe this year's after and they'll know how the actual debate went. You know, we don't know how it's going to go. I have a feeling it's just going to be Andrew versus Stu Peterson. And Andrew isn't going to believe any of the, any of the evidence that you should. she presents and we're just going to get the same thing over and over again, higher profile. You know, but I think Andrew will come out of that even if, let's say, he gets his ass handed to him. He'll come out of that.

Maybe with a damaged brand, meaning that his fans will be like, dude, what the fuck? What's the upside? But I'll tell you what the upside is. He will have more reach than he'll ever have. The controllers of the levers. But to what? That's why he wanted to go on Rogans. That's why he wanted the moderator to be Rokens

because he knew it would be a bigger reach. Yeah. But it's, you know, you mentioned. The question is a bigger reach to what? Reach, meaning, I mean, he's got a bigger, but. Well, it's going to be even bigger. Like, look, I mean, a great example. Sorry to cut you off by Ben Shapiro.

His numbers are just plummeting. He's got a big reek. But he's everywhere. He's everywhere all the time. That's. And he took over for Michael Savage, you know. Like, that's how something happened in America. I don't know.

Michael Savage, regardless of what you think, was a great broadcaster. Is a break. great Brock. I learned a lot from him. And he had a certain style and he was magnetic. And then they replaced him his radio syndication with Ben Shapiro. And so he just tanked it. You know, and so my question is it kind of like, was it was Ed Galran? The guy that beat Thomas Massey, right? Yeah. Okay. And I remember you talking about it. Like, why is Thomas Massey smiling? And I thought about it and I thought, well, he's got to be relieved. I mean, first of all, like, you're a martyr now. And you got, They had to spend more than anybody's ever spent to get this guy, like this train seal.

And I meant like a circus seal because he was a Navy seal, whatever, you know. And but they got this guy to replace you with no substance. And you're able to do that, I think still, with enough money, like you can sway a primary. Because if you really, I could break down the numbers to you. It's really not that hard to turn a Republican primary because you're talking about 50,000 people vote for to represent 800,000. And you just get 25. I mean, they can do it. Right.

I got so it's possible to do it. But for what ends? Because now you've just, you've completely exposed yourself as you're putting your thumb on the scale. You're manipulating and people aren't buying it. So maybe you get a bigger reach, but at the end of the day, to what? That's what I meant. So, yeah, you can technically be on every platform and never get flagged and never get banned. And maybe they'll promote all your shit.

But at the end of the day, we've reached a bifurcation point where, five years, like the complete death rattle of all of that, whatever structure it was under the right wing for conservative talk and everything, all that common, they all be, and this would be a wasteland, Sam. Like, it is moving away. Like, you can just, even the hardcore people, and there's demographics, too, where the demographics have died off or they're getting older, but people that are newer people, there's no way. It's done. It's done. Like, you cannot, you cannot get those times back. And I remember like what I said earlier where if you were a new commentator and conservative media and you were right wing and you believed in pro life and you wanted the

Second Amendment, yeah, okay, people like you were going to fly it to Israel and do all this stuff and you have to make sure that you're always supporting this. You have to go to the glory hole. Yes. That is, that is coming to a conclusion because that it wasn't ever discussed. I mean, even the term, it's been bastardized now, but like when I, I mean, 14 years ago, when I ran for office, like, I used the term America first because I was speaking of, like, you know, Charles Limburg and John F. Kennedy and before the Second World War, I was using that terminology, some Pat Buchanan stuff, but it was foreboden. I already knew, like, it was dynamite in that statement. Like, you were going to get called a lot of things, you know, for even using it. That's crazy. But now nobody says anything about it because it's been made inert. They took something that was genuinely brilliant, and they, Like, so America first now is us fighting Israel's war in Iran for no damn reason. I agree. And I think that there's an acceleration going on because they are reading the data and they are losing it.

Exactly. And that. Like the merging of our military. Yeah. You know, like that, like the, the push for that and to make it open. And you see the, what was that? It was the congressman from Florida who showed, like, he was like really giddy about putting it forward. You know, like, it's just, you can tell what kind of person that is.

Like you can just feel his energy through the video like, oh, there's something, something up with this guy. It's not the future. If you're, if you're, I like trends. Like I read history because I think the further you look back in the past, the further you see in the future. And I just see like, there's a completely different land. And I know that's the, the challenge right now is for us to be able to discern discern. What is real? You know, what it, you know, again, sticking to our principles.

and things that I know that you do and others in this space do, we have to stay true to ourselves because it's going to get weirder. And that's because they're trying to capture this space and other spaces because they've screwed up. They've literally just made themselves really bad.

They're trying to buy their way into it. Yes. So I want to, there's so much to break down what you said. I just really want to get into it. And it's like our good friend, Tino Sanchez. He has this theory that maybe the internet didn't get away. from them and that it's actually doing what they wanted and there is an argument for that but there's also

the idea of creating something it succeeding and then it just getting away from you and a great example of that is my show comedy chaos right so i created this show at the comedy store it was the biggest show at the store for eight years you know and it was the show and then that's the show and then this other kid comes in and he starts doing exactly what I did but he starts paying way more and he actually fucks up the market and now he's the big show he's paying more because they get their price here right yeah it's not because yeah it's not because he bought his way in right but now i'm on the out at the comedy store frankenstein has killed dr. Frankenstein right what if that's the internet. I mean, because we can plan a birthday party for Tony or your dog. We're going to plan

a birthday party for your dog. What's your dog's name again? Beans. We're going to plan this awesome party for Beans. And we have the plans written out. This is what we want to do. And then day of, good luck for it going exactly the way we planned. The wheels come off constantly. You know what I'm saying? Too many people show up because they love Bean. There's not enough food. There's a fight's going on. One dude's banging another dude's wife, and now everyone's fighting. And we can't even remember that we're here for being, but nobody gives a fuck because there's two dudes swinging. And the dog's birthday cake goes all over the place because they fell into it. Do you know what I'm saying?

Like, good luck. Try controlling your company. How many employees do you have? You know, it's like this guy's doing this. I'm going through World War debate. Everyone working on. It's great. But this guy's going this way.

that guy's going and we we want to go here but everyone's working on stuff and they're they all have awesome intentions and i'm blessed that they work on it and this is not negative to anybody i'm working with and if they hear it just know that but it's like you have a plan good luck for it being executed the way you wanted to and that is i think the world now imagine taking it from running a birthday party to running planet earth yeah and you're talking about talk about as it trickles the next generation gets weaker and weaker and weaker and weaker. Now just imagine as you go from top down. Now you're,

now you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're,

who making all these decisions. Oh, it didn't work in Rwanda. What, why? Because Rwanda is so fucking far from Switzerland, right? They can't micromanage every fucking moment of that. I mean,

they are trying to control the internet and they could do it to a point, you know, because they could shatter, banners and not less be seen, but like you said, the truth is very powerful. Yeah, and they can punish you and they can use, I think one of the things that I try to fight against, that's my mission, I believe, is to educate people, at least in the shortest amount of time to explain what fiat currency is. I call them Luciferian Bankster notes, because the dangers of that, like when you have free access and there's nobody challenging you to the printing press, right, and you just create new

currency units. I mean, not even mentioning the damage that it does to society, but you can create people and entities that never would have existed in a free market. Like, people wouldn't have paid for it, but you can make famous people famous, right? You can take new people, make them famous because you funded it, because it still holds weight. Like, but you're doing something outside. It's not, it's not organic. Yes. I think that's what you're saying. Like, I mean, at the end of the day, like, it's also that like, we have a plan. We're doing this dog's party.

As it gets executed down, you know, it's like the game of telephone. We start off with like, hey, we're starting a dog party. By it gets through 30 people, it's a black guy stab somebody. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the famous story, right?

It's just, people's personal trauma, their opinions, their personalities, muck up the plan. So it's like when they talk, at least the presentation, of the internet was maybe there'll be

seven sites. That was their whole thing. And I don't know if they believe that, but that's how it was presented. And now there's a bazillion sites. And because everyone stepped into it. And maybe it is getting away from them. Because once you take the Zionist approach, right? Your brand goes instantly

to shit. Instantly to shit. And they cannot buy their way into it. They're trying. I mean, we can just look at like the Lakers, right? The Lakers today sold for $12 billion. It was just sold for $10 billion. And something happened with the owner of the Dodgers who owned the Lakers,

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So your voting is very important. Just go to YouTube.com slash at. Don't forget the at symbol. Word war debate. And you can watch debates and vote and all that stuff. So yeah, let's get back to the show. You notice, too, that wealth isn't what it used to be, like the so-called privilege of wealth.

If you notice, it doesn't really move the needle all that much like it used to. I mean, it used to be like a thing, you know, like Daddy Warbucks, you know, like that was based on Paul Warburg, you know, like the character, who was one of the first head of the Federal Reserve in the United States. By the way, his brother was Max Warburg, head of the Central Bank in Germany at the time of World War I. I mean, all that stuff, right? But he's based off a real person.

And if you watch the little orphan Annie, you know, Annie movie from the 80s, Paul Finney, I think, plays the Daddy Warbuck's. But he's like on the phone with President Roosevelt telling him what to do. It's like, people back then knew that. And there was a privilege to wealth and at least a built into the narrative. Like America, you can still climb all the way up the ladder. And if you amass this wealth and you'll have a say so. I don't know, do they?

I mean, obviously, trillionaires do. And those who control the system itself. It's not enough anymore just to have money. You actually have to control the system. And that's what I think is the problem. And maybe the system itself is unsavable. Well, that's kind of where I think we're at right now. where it's like we had this idealistic system and then it was applied to reality and it's somewhat out of control right now.

Well, think about this. I mean, just talk about money just for a second. In 1980, we had interest rates in the teens. So if you wanted to buy a home, your interest rate was like 17%. And the reason was is because we went off the gold standard in 71. Gold was $35 an ounce. By 1980, I was born. in the end of 79, gold was $800 an ounce. So it went from $35 to $800. Now, gold didn't go up in value. That's how much purchasing power the dollar lost in 10 years.

And so they had the new head of the Federal Reserve under Jimmy Carter was Paul Volker. And what he did was, in order to get the dollar to stop hemorrhaging, you raise interest rates. You need to contract the money supply because there will be less dollars in circulation if there's a higher interest rate. That's just at a basic level, that's how you curtail inflation create a quote-unquote stronger dollar. Same thing with silver. Silver is $52 in 1980.

Well, they're able to crush both gold and silver because they contracted the money supply with interest rates in the teens. You can't do that now because the debt is $40 trillion. In 1980, it was almost a trillion. So it took us from 1776 to $1980 to go a trillion dollars in debt. Now we go a trillion dollars in debt every 90 days. So you cannot contract the money supply. You cannot stop runaway inflation at this point. So it's not even about ideological arguments or anything like that.

This is mathematics. Math just kicks in. So they're at a point where you can't save the current system in its form. That's why they floated all these ideas and they have these agendas like Agenda 2030 in these timelines. or the great reset. Like these are all things kind of giving advance warning to every system that there will be a reset. Right. But the average person's walking around out there with normalcy bias because that's what we grew up with.

And, you know, maybe tomorrow will be like today because it's a lot like yesterday, except it's not. But those at the top know that. And I think at some level, you see these like billionaires building bunkers. And I just, I was reading an article about like the tech guy in Argentina that's got a massive branch and these other tech people are building stuff there and they're going to wait out the apocalypse or Armageddon or whatever it is because they have to be running the simulations too. I mean, the system as it is right now, the center will not hold. So that's what I study.

And I think that maybe what you're talking about, maybe no one's in charge, it's gotten away from them at this point. I think it's gotten away from them. I mean, it's a very black pill to be like, this is everything they want. I'm like, uh, I know, I know the whole thing is that they want the world to hate Israel because that's the prophecy and stuff like that. Maybe,

but it just seems like they bough off more than they can chew. You know, which is something. That's funny. You said bought off more than that. Yeah. That's a good, that's a good,

yeah. Um, so, you know, the big thing when, when I talk about wise wolf, golden silver. is it's why it's so great to get into precious metals because it stabilizes your money.

Every day they print more money, your money's worth less money. And even if you buy it at a certain number and it goes down, it's still worth more than your ones and zeros in your bank account. Think about this, Sam. So when I was born, silver was $52, right, because of the Hunt family. We've talked about this on the show. Yeah, I love that, man. That was a deep state operation.

Like they were showing something to the world, not just the American people. There's something wrong with the dollar. They were showing that through buying physical silver. Didn't we talk about this last time that there was this notion that they were trying to get ready to have Texas secede? Oh, the hunts were right wing. Yeah. There was a lot of underpinnings of that. And then, you know, Oliver Stone made that movie Nixon.

And he has Larry Hagman, who was the J.R. on Dallas, play this guy. called Jack. He's supposed to be the hunts. Yeah, when I was a, I was a young man, I sold a piece of property to the Hunt family. And I went in, it was like 25. I didn't know who they were. It was like 25, 26, and I was a broker. And I went and they had this, this office with nobody in it. It was like one person, and they had their own title company. So they don't, they didn't even show up to the closing. They just hand you a pen. Like there was nobody in there. I thought that was really, They're old school, even with being taken out. Like, they were really raked over the coals by the powers that be.

Because they touched something you weren't supposed to touch. Don't expose the weakness in the dollar. You know, and so silver was $52 in 1980. It took 45 years for it to break that all-time high. And it did last year. And then it went to $120 an ounce. So people say, well, silver's fallen. I'm like, yeah, there's a whole host of reasons why.

but if you'll just hold like I'm brave heart hold like do not do not sell I mean people that's how I make a living is people sell me stuff and I appreciate it I give them a safe way to do that and a trustable way to do that

so I'm not against it but if you're looking for savings like don't follow the markets per se just understand mathematics every time they're going to they go to the printer which they're going to do and now they've got no choice left It's like the new head of the Federal Reserve Warsh.

Like he's like, I'm hawkish. We're going to keep the rates where they are. We're going to raise rates. You cannot do that in this current system. You have to reset the, and when they do that, they'll have to revalue all commodities. So if you're holding, by the way, it's not investment advice. I don't do investments.

I'm just talking about currency or money. If you hold gold, physical gold, physical silver, or even Bitcoin, you're going to do well in the next five to ten years. And in way beyond that, because the same. system itself is built to go to zero. Okay. And then it's going to be digital. They're going to redo the whole thing.

Where does precious metals fall in the whole digital thing? Right now they're building systems. It's interesting you bring that up because, you know, was it tether? Yeah. Tether now buys gold like a central bank. And you think, okay, well, here's this stable coin that's tethered to the dollar and they make money, I guess, transactional fees of you know if you want to use dollars digitally cross-border payment systems you use like things like tether but they're building their

portfolio with gold and I think some Bitcoin and other things but they're mainly a a central bank unto themselves so all the central banks in the world too Sam that's what's the gold price right they don't even pay attention to it because they're buying to revaluate everything And it's funny, the metric, you'll never see this like on CNBC. But like gold, about a year and a half ago, it surpassed like number two in holdings of central banks. Now it's number one. Like the euro fell, like from, the euro used to be like number two of holdings from central banks.

They stopped holding currencies and all these central banks around the world started just to buy gold, physical gold. And that's the new system. It's not a new currency. It's not a new, it's blockchain. To answer your question, they'll use contracts verified by blockchain of physical gold to run the new economic world order. That's what it'll be. Look at Hong Kong. Hong Kong has massive facilities now outside of the airport, and they are holding storage facilities for physical gold and silver bullion. And the reason they have that is they want first, they want the gold to go eastward. And they want it in places near China and areas controlled by China.

That is where new business will take place. I mean, even Chase moved their, or J.P. Morgan, move their operations. They're moving eastward for the precious metals because the world's going to trade in gold through the blockchain system. And I'm not, again, I'm not a supporter of that in every sense. It's just the reality. It's just the reality. I like no to me even that is counterparty risk and not average person you can't always keep all your gold at home sometimes you have to trust a third party like a storage facility or something like that are you nervous about that like i want buy a whole chunks of gold but i'm like if i put it in there and shit's the phantom i guaranteed to get it out there's just a few people that i know or entities that i absolutely trust i mean you go to places like another gold deer like andy sheckman i trust him he's out of florida he's out of florida He's got a gold storage operation.

I would trust somebody like him. My people that use the IRAs and stuff, we go through a company called IDS, and I trust them because I do business with the trading floor in Dallas, and IDS is part of it's next door. So if you want to move it, it goes right to the trading floor, and these are massive facilities. So, I mean, as far as trust is concerned,

it's way better than the bank, which is controlled. I mean, the banking system, which I think is on the chopping block, unfortunately, if they want to get rid of, real freedom and commerce, you know, like you have to have these giant behemoth too big to fail and jail banks buy up the troubled assets that are going to happen because they're going to pull the rug out from everybody. You know, you saw that at the FTX deal and, you know, Sam Bakeman fried, you know, when that whole thing fell apart. And they had this, like, just a small quake in the system. And you can see, like, they closed down a few banks and then covered it up.

But like, there's a systemic risk, especially with what Trump has done with the straight of war moves and energy flow. Like, I read the other day, we were, for the first time since, like, the Cold War, we were, like, 40 days from a strategic meltdown of, like, the oil reserves and the strategic reserve. Like, he's a chaos magician. He's a straight up, and he's got, he's a sorcerer of all the disciplines. It's like that guy that, you know, got black belt in, like, ten different different. disciplines. That's that's that's that's that's Donald Trump's sorcery. It's free mason, Jesuit, uh, Kabbalah. I mean he's got he he is a chaos man he's here to bring chaos. hasn't obamovich said that about him. Yeah he's a care I mean like whether and some of the chaos is

good. I mean like we know you whatever you want to say about him we know more about the interworking than we've ever known. We certainly do and some is bad too. Yeah it's it's a mixed bag. because he exposed a lot. And it's funny, it's like, there's people in the power structure that still hate him. I'm like, he's doing everything you wanted. Like during 2020, that's what I got in trouble. If I lost so many listeners during that time. Because I'm like, well, isn't he doing what they want him to do?

Like the entire lockdown and the transfer of, like the unprecedented transfer of wealth. What was it from like 2020, Sam, to 2023, 80% of all the dollars were created ever in that time? So if you look at the money surprise. I don't even know what that number is now. I mean, it's huge. There's a stimulus checks, right? Well, not just that. Not even not the printing.

No, it was off the book stuff. So like leading up into the last quarter of 2019, that's what really shook me. I was covering this. And not a lot of people were paying attention. They injected $6 trillion of new capital into these markets called repos, which is the overnights to clear checks and clear. items through the banking system because they were so weak. So we created all this new currency. And at the same time, that was the largest exodus and retirement of CEOs and history,

right? Right leading up to 2020. And everything- Because they knew some was coming, right? Yes. So because big business, as you know, big business and intelligence, hand and glove. It's the same stuff. Yep. I believe the revolving door. They're the security for the big banks. Like the CIA, the FBI, Their job is to protect the elites. Right. Not to be law enforcement. Protect the elites. Yeah, that mission is not what the stated goals of these agencies is not what they actually do,

or at least what their public persona is. It's behind the scenes. It's propping up the system itself. You're right. Yeah, it's really crazy to me. And that's why, like, all these guys who are just pushing this Fed slop on that Charlie Kirk shit. And I don't know what your take on that. Maybe I shouldn't have said that early. But it's like, I know this is going to be a crazy statement to say, but let's put the evidence aside, right? I know it's a crazy thing to say in the case.

Put the evidence aside, all right? Let's look at the history of high impact assassinations and what we know about them. There is always. a hidden hand. And now this idea that Twigs could be the person we see in all the videos totally sets up with two Oswalds at JFK, two Sir Hans, Sir Hans.

You know, I mean, we can just go through it. I mean, like that famous picture of Malcolm X dying on the street with a man on top of him, what we're believed to be him trying to save him, that guy turned out to be one of the most hidden undercover cops of all time

to the point that the NYPD didn't even know he was a cop that even before he graduated from the police academy they pulled him aside and told him what his mission was. That's how

controlled all this shit is. My first thought when I downloaded enough to understand at least the basics of what had gone on after September 10th last year with Charlie Kirk. My first question was,

is Tyler Robinson real? Is it even real? That's where we start getting into some crazy shit. I mean, there's so many theories, and that always happens with every event. Like, it's ritualistic because it's public. Like, it's burned in your brain. You see the, it's like the towers falling, you know,

over and over again. So you see like this is, so there's something to it. I found the entire story. And of course, the text between him and the training guy, like, whatever that is. Like, look under your keyboard, you know, and my love. And I have, and like, it's like two chatbots. Like, if you put two chatbots together and gave them like a parameter, like, you just did this crime.

And you need to go ahead and tell the other chatbot what you did. That's what it would look like. Yeah, I agree. If you've interacted with AI enough, that's what it just sounds like that. And people say, well, that's how younger people talk. And I'm like, I have a 21-year-old son. What are you talking about? Like, they don't talk like that.

I mean, what is that? There's just something. There's something. Nothing makes sense. Something about, it's kind of like Vegas, the Vegas shooting. Oh, very much. Right. It's like that with, because you never, it's like they, they hurry up just to give you an explanation.

And then like there's so many holes in it and there's so many anomalies. The FBI sets the table that we all work from. they set the this is the case here is what we're telling you and then we all have to work from that reality and the reality is already corrupted so we're we're trying to solve

an a corrupt case and it's a so the thing too the whole thing he has his grandpa's Mouser which is we so that's a very rare Johnny you know this of course yeah I've shot a Mous like a real war

like a political right that was that was Hitler's favorite weapon. The Hitler's favorite weapon was the Mouser because he carried it as a soldier in World War I. Like it's bolt actions, 30 a 6th. And I mean, they're expensive now. Like I got to shoot one because I had a wealthy friend

that's like, I bought it's 5 grand or whatever it was 15 years ago. And I heard that and that's the first thing that came to my mind was the JFK assassination. They found a Mouser. Oh, shit, dude. That's the first thing they picked up was the Mouser and then it turned into

the Mon Licker Kakano. right so it it changed from a mouser which is very expensive even in 1963 to a $12 mail order rifle so that's the first thing i thought of was okay that's weird uh and that the entire thing just screams that you're trying to get enough people to buy into the the accepted whatever the push narrative and then get behind the facts or quote unquote facts of that that you forget like don't look at all the other anomalies like what about the people this either what about the was it the guy the protesters said i did it he just happened to be it house town was so weird that old guy the yeah the past town well that's how i knew so was up because within seconds they had three suspects is it this guy it's it this guy's it this guy

they did that with they did that with uh trump's first assassination too well and instantly they had three suspects and i'll tell you too okay so i'm not an uh an authority on this but i've been in three foreign wars i'm a combat vet i was a paratrooper you know i've been shot at done the whole thing okay for everybody that i've like taken on like gunfire it's like to just to go kill somebody is not easy like just think about the think about the your nervous system what you have to develop to go take and like with precision to go kill somebody i mean a lot of people you put them in a deer stand for the first time they can't get the deer you know they get too

nervous like the adrenaline and everything else so i always just think i i i don't think because of video games people think it's really easy but i don't think that it is i think i've in combat scenarios and that's why we trained our soldiers you know from war war one there was a huge misrate like you take these guys off the farm and they wouldn't hit human target it's not natural for us to go kill each other so they they had circle targets and by the time war war two rolled around they shaped them like men and then by the time i got in the military they actually They named them. They called him Ivan's.

And then the little pop-ups, they make them, they make a silhouette of a person pop up. And so you're killing this head and shoulders. Also, movies they rolled out with people, because this was taught to me, I've said before, when I did some of these USO tours, the guy told me, like, in World War I, they realized they couldn't shoot other people. So they started propagandizing it by putting it in movies. It's why firing squads aren't just one guy shooting another guy, you know? it's they would because they found that most people weren't willing to do it they would it's unnatural yeah like when you say bankers wars like all these wars that we fought just the the slaughter

pens of the 20th century people wouldn't have regular folks would never dream that up that's why unfortunately in human society were ruled by psychopaths i mean people 100% and they climb to the top they'll tell you what they what you want to hear and they'll lull you into a false sense of security that's just i mean that's that's that's that happened throughout history cycle paths reach the top but just to take a kid whatever he is if he's like he got radicalized on a discord group what and then he just just decided he's gonna throw away his life get a mouser you know i mean i just i have a hard time with it and the entire narrative to me just it's it reeks yeah of something wrong like and um and i don't know what other the the theories i mean there's a lot of i mean some of the theories

are are insane but if you i didn't know this about charley because the first time i heard Did I go, why would you shoot Charlie Kirk? I mean, because I thought, he's kind of innocuous. You know, like, he's not, he's not, he wasn't super radical. Like, he wasn't like in your face right wing. And he wanted to have discourse. And I just remember him being loathed by the Groypers who were like, you know, I remember like seeing videos of people show up.

And they're like, hey, Charlie, when you're in Israel, do people do a lot of dancing? Did you ever go to Sydney nightclubs? And he's like, no, I didn't see that. Like, okay, everybody, when you get home, Google Dancing Israelis, you know. That's the stuff that I remember because Charlie and I were on the same, I never met him, but we were on the same radio station when I, my second time in radio, like he would come on, I think like two shows after me. So I always could listen to his content.

I'm like, oh, you know, it's pretty standard. There wasn't anything there that said, oh, okay, he's really drawing some fire. Crowder does that. I could see Crowder getting shot before Charlie Kirk when it happened. I could see Crowder doing it because he does that, change my mind. More invasive. Yeah, more aggressive. That's why I was like, like you're saying, it would have been more of a crowded thing for it to happen.

It just didn't add up. But then with everything that's come out, you realize, oh, Charlie was more important than I thought he was. I didn't follow him. So I was like, oh, he had the ear of the president. Oh, okay. And he was telling the president, do not do this with Iran the first time around. You know, like, this is not good for us, not good for business. And then I see all those clips of him coming out, like with Megan Kelly, like,

you know, he's just pouring his heart out to her, like, I'm getting called an anti-Semite by people in my text, you know, like, because I don't support genocide. Yeah, yeah. And then he started going on, it's like, you know, Andrew was text with Candace, too, where he was, I just told him all to fuck off. Andrew read them and it was a real bad play for him. What do you say to that? So he's reading them because he was in a Twitter space and he was like, he wasn't leaving the cause, he wasn't doing that. And then he reads it. And then someone in the Twitter thread is responding to Charlie going, having Candace on might be good in the long term, but not in the, might be good in the short term,

but not in the long term and all this stuff. And he reads it as Charlie Kirk said that. And he literally says, I have no other choice but to leave the pro-Israel movement. Yeah. And again, we've talked about this on the show a lot. It's like, well, if they blow you up and you try to go off, reservation, they don't like that. You know, you can ascend so far on your own. And there are people, I think, can get on their own to a point.

But if they blow you up, they throw money in you and exposure and they give you access to everything. And then you try to go off reservation, do your own thing. And we see that with Michael Jackson, Tupac, even to a point, Louis CK. You know, like he started making his own sitcoms and putting him on his own website and keeping all the money to himself. They don't like that. They don't blow you up to lose you. That's a big, big no-no. So he was in fact doing that. And that's, and when you're part of an organization that was pretty much created, funded, and blown up by the Zionist movement,

and you decide as the captain of that ship to go a different way, it's not good. it's not good and they don't put up with that shit. One of my predictions, and I hope to see it come true, will be the separation, even in people's perceptions of anti-Semitism and skepticism of not only Zionism, but the state of Israel itself. Those two things will separate. And what I mean by that, like my counselor, I mean, I talk to a guy. Everything I've ever been through, I got to reach about 44,

and I was like, you know what, I need to probably just lay some of this stuff out. I don't mind. I'll say that publicly. I actually hired somebody. And he's the Jewish, Jewish guy I've ever met. And he's super cool. He's, you know. Jew, Jew, very much.

And, you know, he's from New Jersey and just has a, he talks Yiddish sometimes to me. He's just a great guy. And he knows all about my life, you know. And just, he's like, it's just crazy. Like, he's the super cool guy. I'm going to fly out and see him sometime and just have a steak dinner with him. He's a super cool guy. And we talk about this because I ask him about, like, you know, are you like a political

Zionist. He's like, no. Because he sees what's happening too. So people ascribe, like, you know, and that's, I think if that's another problem with, with where we are now in the space, too, is that you can, you can't please, you can't please the super racist, whatever they, like the haters of Jews. Like, you cannot please those people just by being, hey, I don't, let Israel do what it, it does. Like, whatever, like, it's not my country.

I don't want it interfering in my politics. I'm not going to go fight for it, you know, whatever. Like, that's how I am. I'm more like, I don't interfere in my politics, do what you want, like your own country, whatever you want to do. I'm not supporting you. And I find that to be a healthy line that doesn't make me not like Jewish people. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like that's just, I think that's, and they take those two things and meld them together. And maybe it's because of these organizations that have for years. Yeah. It's emotional blackmail. It's either 100% or you hate us. And that's been done forever. And the reason they have to do that is because that anti-Semitism is the firewall to the highest levels of power.

And then once you get through that, you start having a conversation as like, is it the Jews? And then you start looking even deeper and you go, oh, there's layers to this shit that go even beyond that. And they are, but they are middle management. but they are the face of it because they need to be the face because that's their role. And like I've been saying this forever. Like last time I was out in Austin, I got called anti-smack by three people. And two of them were joking. They were just joking around.

But, you know, there's always a little truth in everything in every joke. And what I would say to everybody is that I don't believe in protected classes. I don't think anyone is above criticism or comedy. and if I love you, I can also make fun of you and I can also criticize you. And what happens is you, and this is all intentional. This is a play that's been playing for many years, which is emotionally brainwash this certain group of people into believing that the only reason people don't like them is because they're so successful.

And if that was true, we would all hate Asians. because Asians are absolutely fucking crushing it. They actually have a higher standard of living than Jewish people. But you have to do that. You have to get them because it's like any little bit of criticism is goose stepping to ovens. That's what you want them to think. Any calling out is goose stepping. Like for the longest time, it's like if you said Jews ran Hollywood, they would lose their fucking minds.

But I'm like, you're gaslighting me right now. by saying what I'm seeing with my eyes isn't true. And I don't care that Jews are in Hollywood. They created Hollywood. It's their fucking thing. Just stop telling me what I see isn't true. And that's why all that's going away. And so, you know, I got to debate with Stu Peters, who I like a lot.

And we got in a debate and I go, Stu, you have to fucking show kindness to the Jews that are calling out Zionism. You can't just lump them all together because they're the most important because you can't use all that fucking emotional blackmail on them because they're one of them. So when they do come out and they do say it and they do call out what's happening, we have to show them love and support because what they're doing is very brave because they're risking being completely alienated from their own people. Their mothers, their fathers, their uncles, their aunts, their grandparents. like it's a very brave thing to do and it's like it's very hard for them to do that because since they took their first breath they're constantly reminded of the holocaust it defines their people and that is done on purpose as well because we've talked about it if you know it's not even like it's a giant tragedy it's not even close to the worst tragedy it's not even in the realm

of the world like what mao did what stahl did what the bolsheviks did what king leopold did What the nobody even knows about the Demaside that happened at the exact same time and killed way more Chinese. Nobody even knows about it. We're all subject. Yeah. To that. One form or the other. It's about uniting under the common banner of what threatens us, what threatens our liberty, what threatens our prosperity, our ability just to raise a family.

You have entities and groups that would like to us to beat each other's throats, to start new wars, to burn shit to the ground. and that's not the future that I want and I've seen that. You talk about people hating the Jews and I think after 9-11 I was 21 I was part of the first Army company

on the ground in Canada Afghanistan so like tip of the spear you know like arriving like just I got debriefed by General Mattis you know like I'm 21 years old I just just turned 21 so I'm landing in Afghanistan in 2001 people asked me like

what were you here in 2002 3 I'm like 2001. Damn, dude. They were still pulling wreckage out of the, I was about defining bodies. I was past because it was September. You must have been there. I was,

I was had orders like the next day. And one of the, I had to, to learn from myself, like dealing with Muslims, you know, and then seeing the humanity of people. That's why stuff that'll just burn into my brain.

Like, it'll never leave me. And I think, well, these are people, you know. Like, and I,

I got back to a world, which America can be very insulated. And I remember going to churches. You know, I go to church that I went to when I was a kid. It's very evangelical, very, you know, it's a kind of place that would wave and there's a Israeli flag now, you know, some of that shit. And I remember hearing people say, oh, you should just nuke them, you know, just drop a big one on them.

I'm like, so just genocide of people? Do you even know who did this? Do you even know that was, it was so disgusting that people would just resort to that sort of talk and it made me anti-war. My service made me anti-war. I'm not a pacifist, by the way. I think violence sometimes is absolutely called for it for the right reasons, like to defend your home, to defend your country,

and you should be a monster if you have to be, and out-monster the monster. But then, you know, you have to also retain your soul. So just wanting war for the sake of it, I think, is a psychopathic trade. Especially when you're not going to participate in it yourself. Like, if you're calling for war, I mean, you've been to war. but someone like Mark Levine or Levy or whatever his name is, Levine, calling for war, you fat old fuck. Go on the front line, dude.

I mean, why does my family have to go, like I have a cousin who wants to join the military. God bless you, because I understand why you're doing it. But it makes me very scared that he's going to be on the front lines of this fucking war. Mark, none of Mark's family's going to be there. No. None of the people that push us into war. I mean, you can say what you will about people like Teddy Roosevelt, but he said follow me. He didn't say charge. He actually liked war. What is a great story I read about Teddy Roosevelt when he was up San Juan Hill during the Spanish American War. And he was undersecretary of the Navy. Left his post, gathered a bunch of the rough riders out of San Antonio, recruited a bunch of cowboys and people. And one of the guys that was with him was one of his upper crust elite friends from New York. and the guy's got gut shot and he's dying. And Teddy Roosevelt jumps off his horse. The guy's taking his last breast and he grabs him and he says,

my God, how lucky you are. You get to die in a war. Like he loved that shit. But he's out there. And Teddy, he died young because his not, well, he didn't take, his heart gave out on him because he was a different kind of cat. A wild man. But I think he died of a broken heart actually.

I think his favorite son, Quinny. had had joined the Royal Air Force, you know, during the First World War before America entered, and he got shot down and he was killed, and he just died. Like, I think he kind of reaped, you know, Jesus talks about that in the Bible, you know, if you live by the sword, so shall you die. He never said it was wrong, but he did mention that. Like, you reap what you sow. And so whether you're a direct casualty or not, if you promote the war,

it's kind of like Lindsey Graham, you know, Lindsay. His whole life was about unnecessary violence. He didn't commit it. He wanted it done, though. Now, he did, he was like in JAG in the, in the Air Force or something, you know. He was, he was in the military, quote unquote. But he was, his life was dedicated to that. What a waste of a life.

He could have been for peace. They probably, he would have died of a heart attack a lot earlier, whatever he died right. But, you know, JFK, same thing. JFK, you know, served in World War II. And that's PT1. You know, that whole story about he drug, like his crew got cut in half by a Japanese destroy at a PT boat. And he drug one of the guys to safety with his teeth. You know, like, and he was crippled after that.

I mean, really, he was always in pain from, because he had Addison's disease too. But if you look at some of the speeches, I always point to the American University speech, June, 1963. If anybody ever has a chance to listen to that that JFK gave, if you want to know why he got his head blown off, that's the reason. He just talked about our shared humanity. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children's future and we're all mortal. And when you've seen what I've seen,

this one image always burns in my head. There was this Iraqi mother, three of her sons in a car. And they didn't slow down at a checkpoint. Got lit the fuck up. Just, you know, got lit up. And I'm watching her, and she comes to the point where, like, dealing with the PR and everybody, like, the, it's not necessarily the hospital. You come to pick up the remains. And this lady was beating

her head, like just beating herself and ripping her own hair out. Like just her soul is dying because her sons are just massacre. Again, you got to think, you can't really blame the troops. You've got this strange war. What are we here for? What are we doing? And then you got CIA funded Al-Qaeda, which that's what that means. It means the database. It doesn't mean some strange base somewhere. Al-Qaeda is a database of fighters. They picked up in 1979 along with Tim Osman, who's Osmond, Osmond, you know, this was documented. 100% proof stuff that they ran these ops. And it's like, you know, years later, you have ISIS and all these groups that Hillary Clinton wanted to shoot down Russian aircraft so they didn't kill al-Qaeda.

I mean, what the hell was 9-11 for? But we're there, you know, and all these things are going on, like all these operations happening at once. So it's hard to know who the enemy is. And what is winning look like? What the hell are we doing? So you can't really blame the troops for, like, because you might be a car bomb, might not be. You know, it might be, might be the enemy, could not, nobody, this isn't, there's no clear, definable lines and it's chaos for the sake of chaos's sake, right?

No, I totally agree. Even when it comes to, like, the Armenian genocide, you're like, is there a hidden hand in the young Turks that is always there? when you start to really dive deep and get down to the brass packs of all this shit is like, were they, were they Muslims or were there other things involved? And that's why, like, when Netanyahu's talking about

we got to eliminate Hamas, you created Hamas, you fund Hamas, you arm Hamas, you tell Amas what to do. Same thing with ISIS. I mean, it's really crazy and it's like, good luck telling people that. Good luck. It's like Trump talking about communism.

Trump's like, we've got to go after the, talking about the, all of a sudden the communists came back. Well, they've never really gone away. But he talks about the communists. And you think, okay, well, Trump was bailed out by Wilbur Ross in the 90s. Wilbur Ross is a Ross child agent. The Ross Child's propped up the group that supported Karl Marx. Like, there's the degrees of separation. Yes.

And if you know history, and I'm amateur at this, but this is, I'm interested in it, right? So the more you look into the cycle of this, the conspiracy theory of history is correct. the issue that we have now is like transmuting that to the next generation with all this other bullshit. And I was going to say, too, I forgot to mention. I was on the beach a couple weeks ago. And I was reading more Will Durant. And he mentioned another figure in history that preceded you, Sir Francis Bacon. He proceeded.

And he was talking about scientific development. And it was a guy named Roger Bacon. Now, Roger Bacon was the first real scientist, okay? And I know that's what your pug is. And he's a gay pug now. Yeah, he is a gay. I must have done something really bad. Power gay.

And I'm Frederick Nietzsche, and I'm sorry about the whole God is dead thing. People thought I was syphilitic, but I just had low tea. I got rid of that, and I got the mustache shaved down. It's a crazy time, dude. And, you know, it's a, it's, it's, you know, the whole thing is this is like, I sometimes wonder if we're supposed to actually know the truth. Like we, like, can we get to the center of this rotten onion? and what happens when we get there?

Can we understand what God is? Is it beyond our understanding? What created this place? Why we're here? All that stuff. Can our minds even get to that? I would like to think so. I'd like to think that we had the capability

of understanding why we exist. I think like if we're created in God's image, God's a creator, it doesn't mean you have to go make things but just create a good life. And I had this theory a while ago. I don't know what I just, I drive a lot in between Texas and Missouri.

And I'll just sometimes just zone out for a couple of hours. And I had this thought, you know, we talk about revelation of the method and predictive programming. And we'll find little Easter egg things like Neo's passport expires on September 11, 2001 in the Matrix, you know, and all these little hidden gems that you'll find in movies and pop culture about things that will happen. Not that you would have ever noticed it then. Yeah. So it's not. And we, I think, wrongly have ascribed revelation of the method to, like a group of like living third dimensional beings I think it's God I think it's just giving you a wink and a nod to the simulation that we I think it's God's simulation so I believe that in a time in which we live now it's more important for you to think in spiritual terms because we're living in that world it's so whether or not evil people can gain power and retain power is probably

outside of the point because it doesn't belong to them. So all of what we do, I think getting closer to the truth is absolutely possible. It's interesting, dude. It's like, you know, it's like someone hit me up. They sent me a video friend of mine. It was about like, don't worry about waking anybody up. It's not your job. And I do think that.

I think the people listen to this show, I'm very blessed. And I'm very, like, I watch a lot of these people going back to fanking them. funk on a nasty dunk, say things that they may not actually believe. And I think you do a real disservice to your audience because your currency is authenticity. And they're looking for a lighthouse and to see a shit. Right. And we need to be that lighthouse. And when you violate that contract, that's when you start to lose people.

And it's like it can be very heavy. when you want to save everybody. You know, it's like that's a heavy burden to have because some people don't want to be saved. It's like in recovery when I work with people new to recovery, I tell them, this may sound bad to you, but it's not, your recovery has nothing to do. I don't care. It's your life. You're going to be the only one that saves you.

If you relapse, I'm going on with my life. I'm just here to get you to that year that is so important. in recovery, but it's all on you. And like you relapse, I'm going to be sad, but my life is going to go on. And that's kind of how I feel about all what we do, you know, is it's like if you get lost in it, like that, and I see this with new conspiracy theorists. They become Paul Revere and they want to warn everybody of everything. And when nobody listens, they start to lose their mind.

And then eventually get like, oh, because in a weird way, right? In a weird way, everything that we've always, that we're talking about has happened, right? But the belief of the end of times never really happens. Right. Right? So it's like, why do we talk about it? You know, I've talked about us before, like a very good friend of mine from high school asked me if I'm actually doing any good. Like, am I helping people with this?

And I go, well, if more people listen to my show, they less would get the shot. And we've lost people. Within the comedy world of L.A., young people dying of the weirdest cancer as possible. And it's insane to watch. So I go, do we have a good person? Yeah.

I'm going to warn you of what they're doing. It is up to you to decide whether you're going to act on that warning or not. And if you choose not to, like my own mother, who I would step in front of a bus for to save her life even at her advanced age, okay? Did not listen to me. She has heart problems now and she's on blood thing medication. I mean, it breaks my heart, but I can't do anything about it. She chose not to let her.

Her son who loves her more than oxygen, right? She didn't want to listen to it. She wanted to listen to somebody on the funny screen. Yeah. That doesn't even know her. That kind of woke me up to like, I can't save anybody. And it's not my job to save anybody. But it's my job to, and a lot, you know, I love doing this show and I love people listening.

You know, it's helped basically take care of my family. Like, I'm allowed to provide for my children because of this show. And that's why I take it so personal. But really a lot of this is for me, right? And to like, I'm learning as you guys are learning. We're learning together. but it's about me learning. In reality, maybe it's a little selfish to say that,

but it's really true. Like, I'm blessed that these people are listening to us, but it's like, I want to know, so I don't fall for the shit. I don't, like, if you're listening to show, you know, not to hate somebody because they have a religion you don't agree with or a belief system you don't agree with

because that's what they fucking want. And like, not to fall for this idea, like you brought up earlier about nuking a bunch of fucking people who live in an area where these fucking bankers want to steal all their resources. Like, you know, and listen, man, I mean, like, I get the history of Muslims and all that shit, but, you know, you can say whatever you want. We killed a bunch of them in Iraq, like to the tune of millions. I mean, and even before that, you had the first Gulf War,

and by the time the sanctions, it really kicked in. He had that famous interview with Madeline Albright on 60 Minutes, and they ask her, is half a million Iraqi men, women and children worth them? the sanctions and without pause. She just goes, oh, I think it's worth it. I mean, we just, that's the, we, we resided over that as a people. And you just have to really take pause and say, yeah, maybe we can't wake everybody up or whatever the hell that even means anymore.

But are you doing good? You know, are you taking your, everything you've ever learned, the culmination of all the books and all the shows you've taken in. And everything is it manifesting in helping people navigate this? Yes. And that's, like I got an email yesterday from a listener. I've never met, never heard of. He just, he listened, he must have listened to my shows for years because he emailed me this long email and asked me, can I fill in the gaps of the other books that you've read?

Can you send me a picture of your bookshelf? Because I'm trying to finish these books that you've talked about. And some of them, I look back, I go, I haven't talked about that book in three years. But he's listening, you know, so it's a privilege. It is a privilege. It's a real privilege. But you got, you know, and. the more you talk the more of an independent thinker you are the more you'll lose people around you

I've been absolutely excommunicated from the la comedy scene none of these motherfuckers that came up with none of these motherfuckers that I've helped nobody these motherfuckers that pointed in right directions call me put me in their shows none of that shit one of these people that I came up with I helped I'm not going to say got girl help them and they live next to me our kids are the exact same age my kids have never met their kids ever the phone never rings the phone never nothing i mean it's it's really crazy it's like and you just see those memes all the time the more you know the less people you have around you and it sucks because especially in los angeles which is the mecca of conformity it

The reason LA is dying is because it no longer pushes culture. And it's all about conformity. And you create projects not because you want to create great art, but because you want to sell it and you don't want to offend anybody. And if that's where you work from, your art is hollow. They have trained us to think that something we don't agree with is the greatest capital punishment of all time. And art is meant to arouse emotions.

And some of those emotions are anger. And it doesn't mean they're not good people. They're just questioning your reality. And instead of like going, hey, here's a data point that maybe I was thinking about, now you want a jihad against them. You want to run them out. You want their careers to be destroyed because they see the world differently. It's no longer okay to disagree.

That is the greatest sin of all. time. And that to me is manipulation and brainwashing that you cannot have a conversation. Listen, dude, I tell people all time, I don't give a fuck if you don't agree with me. I don't care. You're my friend. We don't agree on shit. That's all right. Not anymore, dude. It's a great, great, great divide, dude. It's crazy to me. Don't you think, though, maybe you're subconscious that over time, like that will change for you? Like on a long enough timeline because of everything you've ever done and all the people you've helped and all of the work that you've done and the traveling and everything. It has like this compounding effect that will eventually catch up and you will have your day.

I mean, you're having your day now. No, I agree with that. It's just hard to go through it. I think it happens with greatness. I mean, maybe I'm flattering you too much. I need it. I'll take it. I'm losing my mind.

What's up with Tony and Sam? But I do believe Best friends Yeah Tony, I'm going to say something to you right now That's going to come off because you've been the war You're trained in the arts of taking people out I've taken martial arts my whole life

Couldn't fight my way off a paper bag I mean if I have to I can't but I'm not a fighter I'm not going to pretend like I'm a fighter So I you know there's this thing right now with particularly the left is this notion of getting rid of the cops getting rid of the prison system right and i think deep in my heart that is the dumbest thing that that side could do and the reason i think of that is because the silent majority of this country doesn't react to riots and all that shit

because they don't want their kids to grow up without parents because they're in jail. But if you take that away, a great reckoning is coming. Am I really far off on that? Because again, I'm not a dangerous man, so I don't want to act like, I'm going to go out there and fuck everybody up.

That's not what I'm saying at all. But I think the silent majority is like, if I do something, my kids are going to grow up without a parent, and I don't want that to happen. So I'm going to kind of sit back and allow some of this shit, these people to act out of pocket. But if the threat of no prison is there, if there's no prison threat, I think you could see very mild-mannered people really go often. And the reason BLM and the reason the Antifa can do what they do is because they might not have the fear of going. to jail and they they're not afraid to commit the violence because they don't care about the consequences but if you take those consequences away i think you're looking at chaos well absolutely

you'll have i mean it's nature abhors a vacuum the vacuum will be filled by something right and say the purpose of that i believe when they're talking about dismantling all the police and getting rid of the prison system which the prison system by the way is fucked i mean we Fuck. We're 5% of the world's population. We have 25% of its prisoners, mainly based off of like the quote-unquote war on drugs, which is really the UN's war on drugs and chemicals that are not inside their Rockefeller system.

That beside the point, if you take away that, I mean, again, and I have problems with policing, I was military policemen. I never, I wouldn't have made a great cop. My problem is always just letting people go. Like I understand life happens and like I wouldn't, I'd be, I'd have a hard time. just arresting people for shit that you could probably just get... Or like weed, like in Texas right now? Oh, that'd be, I mean, I could...

That's absolutely insane. I could never arrest somebody for a plant, you know? Like, I always wonder why we have... We spend so much time on these, like, nonviolent crimes and things that don't really hurt anybody. Maybe they hurt themselves. Maybe they have an underground economy or whatever. But you're talking about, like, violent criminals? Like, we ought to have, like, a dexter system on that.

Like, there's a lot of people that in our... you know, the military apparatus, the law, that really want to just go and hurt people. I mean, a lot of them want to help, but there are those that want to take on. But you never see them hitting like MS-13 and like the major, you know, violent drug gangs. They're always like arresting, like, again,

getting into these situations like we've seen with ice and stuff that's happened over the last year. So I have a real problem with a lot of aspects of law enforcement, but if you take the entire thing away, what fills it is there's going to be chaos and then people, and the order ab-cao, the greater the chaos, the greater the order. And the greater the order will be tyranny.

So, I mean, you either have a measured thing that you have to deal with and have to reform or you have something that replaces it that is a nightmare. So that is just without wisdom. You're just going to go and take something like... Because they're all rich kids fantasizing. That's who's pushing.

That's who all... You're right. I mean, rich kids... I mean, whether it's the Bolshevik Revolution or any other, any sort of Marxist revolution around the world. It's always funded by one, the world's richest people and trust fund kids.

And some of it's just used as a counterpoint so they can get away with screwing you over more and owning more things, getting rid of the middle class. That's the war that we're in right now, that is a bad idea. And I don't consider myself. I'm not a tough guy at all.

I don't, I'm 46 now. Yeah. You know, I don't want to get in a street fight. If I have to, I will. But I got black belt and running away. I'm living like Sun Su's wisdom is like the greatest battle to win is one that's not fought. Like use your mind. Like if you can do that, I do not want to get in the street fight.

And I definitely don't want to be fighting, you know, for my home turf and keeping out scumbags and stuff. But, you know, the cops have to do a better job. I mean, a lot of this, and I think you guys have talked about this on Broken Sim before, like where police departments. departments have IQ tests. If you're too high, they won't, like, if you're too high, if you're too high, if you're a high IQ, they won't, they won't hire you because you'll do like I do and just be like, I don't really think that's a crime. I'll decide. If I was ever to run for an office, and I've said this before, if I was ever to run for beans is trying to dig into your couch. That's fine. She just, she's trying to make a bed. That's fine. I would run for sheriff. I think a sheriff can do, I like that sort of policing, at least in theory, because, you know, the sheriff is elected and is answerable to the people without a bureaucracy layered in between. And the deputies that you hire reflect you. They're deputized. And I think we ought to have more of a sheriff style policing in this country and then get rid of the war on drugs.

Get rid of all that shit. I mean, if we really arrested people that deserved it, it'd be first time arrests in this country. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was listening to somebody other day, and they were arguing for taking away physical currency. They're like, well, you know, it's just used in sex trafficking. I'm like, kill all the sex trafficking. Yeah, and it's just crazy.

You don't think digital currency will be used in some way? Whenever you create a program, people will find a way around. They'll use other things. Paper currency is not just what is considered money. So you can use all sorts. So the argument that we have to get rid of that so we can have a better grip on, you know, and there was like money laundering and other stuff. And I'm like, okay, well, but real crimes against humanity, like using people as commodities.

I'm like, well, maybe we should actually, for the first time, you know, since World War II, declare war on those people, like actually have a war with them. Like, if you traffic children, we're coming in the middle of the night and we're going to get you. Yeah, I mean, and that shouldn't be a radical idea. That's not a radical idea. And again, I'm anti-war, right? So you're here, I'm not a pacifist. I just think if you're going to fight a righteous war,

and maybe I'm overstepping my libertarian lines, like no trial and stuff. But I mean, if they're in, like, committing the crimes in real time, and, you know, they're storing kids or women or whatever, like, you could, you could have, people would rally around that. Like, hey, worldwide, we're going to just get rid of these people. Like, we're going to do. No, it's like, you're totally right.

Like, I bring this up. It's like the people of Minnesota protesting ICE, I fucking get it. But imagine if you. you guys took that energy and put it against the Somalians stealing all your tax money, you would get the right and the left behind you. There's nobody that would get upset. They always pick these things and they hold you hostage with them. So like in Texas, you have the worst politicians. Like Texas is just known. Like the Republican Party, I think the GOP stands for grifters on patrol. They just grift and they're always on the grift to find what, because they hold you hostage.

They say, well, do you like your Second Amendment? Like absolutely. Okay. well, you got to vote for me if you want that. You pro-life, you believe that life is sacred? Yeah, I like pro-life stances. Okay, good. Now we're going to go to war for Israel. And so you have to, like, you're held hostage by them. And, you know, it's like, we're not, the whole thing about being fiscally conservative, too, is like, that's such a pass.

It used to be a thing when I was growing up, like, we talked about the deficit. Nobody mentions that anymore because it's so gigantic. You know, like, nobody even talks about fiscal stuff. anymore. So that's out the window. It has to change starting at the personal level. One, it's like, it's not globalist, it's not nationalist, it's localists, too. It's right. It's where you, like, even as an individual, like, understanding the nature of the matrix that you're in, like you're not going to be able to vote your way, at least in this system, out of it. Because you're voting for a, I'm sorry to cut you off, but a neocon Zionist or a progressive Bolshevik.

They've manipulated the system so much. You're picking either way, the lizard folk win, you know, like either way. But I think that's coming to an end. It's, again, like the whole point of Pat Buchanan in 2000 was just to get into the debates. If you can change, if you can say something that gets, once people, a question is asked and their brain registers it, and they seek new, have new information that's embedded into their brainstem. they're going to have an awakening of sorts. And that compounds into other things.

It's just breaking through because we are caught in the duopoly. It's a gun to your head either way. It's just crazy to me. Listen, I love you, dude. I love Wise Wolf, Golden Silver. If you guys go to Samtripplea.org, use the promo code tinfoil. You can get in on the PressMails game, man. I think it's really important, dude.

You know, I mean, they're just going to print us out of existence. and I don't know how we stop it. It's not going to be voting on it at all. I mean, we have a system where it's like, this is why I understand why women go crazy, right? Because guys will say anything to get laid. Whatever they want to hear to get down those pants, guys are going to say it. That's vote. That's elections.

That's our politicians. Whatever you want to hear, I'm going to tell you to get your vote. And then for the next four years, go fuck yourself. right and that it's just crazy to me so it's like with precious metals you're going to be able to solidify your money because they're printing us to a hundred trillion that's the goal 100 trillion dollars and then once we're there are dollars worth fucking nothing and they're just going to flip the system that is the point and the the reason that retail on golden it's like it's a if you're subscribe to Wolfpack or you deal with me.

I do it every month. You're a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the United States of America. Like I'm talking about all gold dealers, all people. It is such a niche thing, but it won't be forever because it will, you'll be forced, like the public will be forced to understand how fake the money was. Like when it's all said and done. But by that time, it'll be basically too late. Like you're left, and even in the promo that you read, you're left holding the bag.

You're holding the bag. And if you look at like the metrics that I follow, and I won't take forever, but I know, I study this every day. Look who's buying stuff. Okay. Like look who, don't, don't watch what they say. Watch what they do. Like the central banks aren't hoarding their own currencies. You don't give a shit about that.

They're buying physical assets or the new systems digitized. They're buying Bitcoin. Like retail on Bitcoin, Sam, retail and Bitcoin is almost nothing. That means like, retail means people. Like people say, I don't believe it did, you know, it was at $125. thousand now it's 65 oh it's dead or whatever I'm like do you realize have you have and I ask people this

do you know the numbers on this I get just food for thought on Bitcoin alone because I do gold silver and Bitcoin I want you to talk to Dana she just wants me to sell all the time I'm no no because you're gonna after this you're gonna go over there and lecture would you say what about like if you want to buy a house

to sell like say you have a lot of Bitcoin and you want to sell it to buy something else because like what it was what would you what would be a moment to buy to sell something like Bitcoin or I think that's acceptable. Like if you've got asset to asset, you know, real estate is an asset. You know, obviously they can't make more, they can make more houses, but more land is not going to be manufactured.

So a house can serve you well. So that's probably not the worst. You can also borrow against, I borrow against my Bitcoin. But, you know, if you look at like, look at the amount of people on planet Earth. Interesting. You borrow against your Bitcoin. Absolutely. I borrow it 50% of LTV.

And then I'll just use my business to cash flow and I'll pay the loan back and then I put the Bitcoin back in my wallet. I haven't sold Bitcoin in years. I've been in Bitcoin since 2016, but I'll tell you something about Bitcoin. And it's a lot like gold in this aspect if you look at the finite aspect. But even Bitcoin is something that is revolutionary. Like there's 22 million millionaires. Okay. So there's 22 million millionaires. If every millionaire in the U.S. wanted to own just one Bitcoin and have one big, Bitcoin and 65,000 have one in a cold storage wallet. It's mathematically. They can't do it. There's not enough Bitcoin. If you look at how many wallets in the world? There's eight, there's eight billion people supposedly in the world. So this is the stuff I do with AI. I want to look at how many,

how many wallets, how many individuals own at least one Bitcoin? Okay. And it's not because, you know, oh, well, they can go get one tomorrow. It's because they're already bought. So like, there's 800,000 people. people, or individuals or entities, 800,000 out of 8 billion that own at least one Bitcoin. Okay. And that number will shrink. There's more millionaires in the world than people that have at least $1,200 in Bitcoin. So it's just the scarcity aspect of Bitcoin alone in the face of all of the things that is,

uh, with fiat, which is infinite. I would have, I would do some serious thinking about like reevaluating your stance on Bitcoin. And I, I love it. But are you concerned about these people saying it's going to go to zero and stuff like that? It's not going to zero. I don't believe that. And again, I'm not telling you to put all your money in Bitcoin. I'm telling you to look at the scarcity aspect versus what they're going to have to do to prop up this current system.

And the system is going to print into oblivion. So if you're holding physical gold, physical silver, without counterparty risk, you're so far ahead of the game because they're going to revalue all of this shit. India last year imported 900 million ounces of silver. 900 million. That's just the people importing it. Governments are buying. China's buying silver. This is cheap right now compared to where we're going.

And I think in 10, 20 years, we won't even value this in dollars anymore. It'll be based off. There'll be a new system of weight and measurement that we've never seen before. I don't know what it's going to be. What would you rather have gold, silver, or Bitcoin? I'd start with gold. because what I've learned in my business out the last 10 years is that gold is very liquid. So I love silver.

Silver's got a bitter upside for long. Like if you'll hold that silver for the 10, 20 years, you're going to be thanking me. I think it will surpass gold as far as like quantifying in terms of dollars of what you bought it for. But gold is very liquid. And it really showed up in this last run when silver went to 120. People were just in droves trying to sell to me. And it choked the wholesalers. It choked the refiners.

The refiners stopped buying like things like flatware and sterling silver and coins. Like they just said, oh, we only do bullion and you'll get paid in six weeks. Like the system couldn't take it. Now, there probably will be an improvement of that in the next three or four years, I hope, where it'll be a lot more liquid. But gold was always, okay, 24 hours I can get, you know, closer to spot. I can get liquid right then. Like when I get cash, the first thing I do, I probably not buying a whole lot more Bitcoin. I buy like, you know, 20 bucks a day or something.

I own Bitcoin from all the way back from, you know, 2016 and some. It's filthy Israeli stole so much of mine. I got a bunch of it back, but dude stole, I had seven. And he, and he, fuck. Yeah, they caught him at the airport trying to get back to Israel. He's in jail, but he'll probably be out soon and then fuck him go back to Israel. you had that it's not a perfect it's not i love what bitcoin's done to wake people up and so the younger generation to what fiat banking is and central bank all that stuff and the power structure i'm glad

they did that it's not perfect um but i if i my first choice is always going to be gold uh physical gold to hold because i think it just it's stabilized it is money um but i i love the scarcity aspect of bitcoin like when you do look at the numbers like wow that that has to go somewhere like it for it to not go somewhere would be. Maybe it goes to zero. And by the way, I've already told my audience, anybody knows me, I'm like, I'll ride this bitch to zero. Like, I will not sell.

I'm the same way. Listen, my, listen, I've also said this about crypto. If they're going to get us to buy in to the digital currency, they have to have these cryptos blow up. They have to get people excited about it. because if Bitcoin goes to zero and everyone's like, what the fuck? How are you going to get them on U.S. whatever the coin is going to be? How are you going to get them to buy into it?

I'm telling you, you're going to see a surge in all the cryptos. Now, listen, we had it so good, dude. You remember that Wild West, some meme coins and we're all making money off? You know, we're buying cum rocket and making fucking five grand. We were kings and we didn't even know it, dude. but the point is like I believe maybe not in the mean market but I believe there's going to be a run on crypto

if only four they have to get us into crypto now someone said the reason that they've been killing the crypto market because we're extracting so much wealth from their system but if they're going to move us into the new system which is crypto they got to have it pop off

and you just want to be able to be there to grab that, grab that might. Now, if let's say you got a, let's say, Come Rock, it goes off again, right? And you want to sell,

don't sell it into U.S. dollars. Flip it into Bitcoin. Would you buy the American crypto, like the American dollar crypto? Would you get, would you be on top of it? You may not have a say in that. I mean, eventually you won't.

You eventually won't get direct deposit off of it, but you think you'd jump on it like the second, trying to like, trying to get that of that. that thing up of Bitcoin. That's what they say XRP is going to be. I don't think that what they do make will be a public-private partnership.

If you notice, by the way, if people think that alternative media can't do some good, I was one of the first people talking about central bank digital currency, CBDC. I didn't think anybody was listening. All of a sudden, a lot of people, and I don't think I had any hand in it, but I was talking about it early. And now it's not a thing anymore. Like they, it's such a bad brand, you know, the central bank digital currency. So they're like, okay, we're going to do something. something different. There's no CBDC. It'll be worse because they'll do what is a fascistic system.

They'll do public-private partnership with stable coins. So I don't stable coins are stable. So you won't have like buying into a stable coin isn't going to go parabolic. It's not going to be like a meme coin or Bitcoin back in the day. And I also think that they're building a lot of their systems to support whatever the Bitcoin network is. Like a lot of the a lot of the Fiat banking elites, you, you Even Larry Fink, head of Black Rock, goes to Davos about a year ago and says, hey, Bitcoin's going to 700,000. Now you think you know something? That's Larry Fink, right? And he's launched the ETF, the exchange trade fund for Bitcoin, the most successful one ever, most successful ETF.

So I would really pay attention to what they're looking at, too. Do as they do, not as they say, right? They are mentioning. They're even saying it, though. Yeah, but it's saying it's a Davos people. It's not coming out, you know, doing an infomercial to the public saying, Hey, by the way, your savings dwindling, you should get it a big. They're not saying that.

They're going and telling others that are other banksters. So something to watch out for. It's interesting, man. And, you know, you know, everyone got excited when they were getting into it, but it's also a great way to manipulate it. Buy a bunch of it, sell it high, buy it low. You know, so, I mean, people, just start freaking out. I just, you know, I, I held on a lot of coins and maybe I shouldn't

been a holder the whole time, but I've never sold a Bitcoin, never will sell Bitcoin, no matter what Dana tells me. She's all, we've lost so much more. I'm like, it's a long game, man. Just ride it, dude. There's a great, you should get, there's a company, I'll tell you who it is after the show that you can probably get them to sponsor you. They'll, you can loan it against your Bitcoin, and they'll hold it. And it's, your Bitcoin is not reallocated. It's just in your wallet. This is an insecure wallet and you can borrow 50% against it. I think that's cool for if you believe that, because I think that it's funny, the first time that Bitcoin went to 100,000 is right before I went on the show back in 24 here when I was when we were recording over in Hollywood.

And it hit 100,000 right before I walked in the studio. And we had an interesting conversation that day. Do you remember? And we talked about, you asked me what the second Trump administration was going to be about. And I told the story of Creeces. The, The first, the Lydian King, the first person to ever coin gold, I'll shorten it. But I should find the clip. Is it like 52 minutes in? I thought about it afterwards. I just, I don't know why.

I just, you asked me what the second Trump deal was going to look like. And I told that story. And that Lidian King, back, you know, 3,000 years ago, wanted to conquer Persia. So he sent out and he found an oracle. He's like, tell me the future. So he showered the Oracle with gold. And he said, what happens if I invade Persia? Because I want their gold.

Oh, yeah, I remember this. And the oracle said, if you invade Persia, a great empire will fall. And it was his. Yeah. Right? It was like twilight zone consequences. Like he didn't clarify which one, but he just took it as I'm going to be a victor. And he lost all of his gold, lost everything, and the Persians conquered.

So, you know, we're, that's what I thought the second Trump administration was going to be. I don't know why, but that's just what was sticking out in my mind. Seems like that's happening, right? We're losing, think of the wealth. You know, I don't want to get into it forever because it's a long conversation, but all the stuff we could have done, Sam. Think about all the deals we could have made, all the trade, all the prosperity we could have had, and we had to go do this thing, which is it has a nastiness to it, has a bad answer. It's very weird because he could have been the greatest president ever. He had a chance of that, and he picked, he picked burning his brand for all this well.

and it's like, you're 80, pro. Like, what are you going to do with all this wealth? What are you going to do with it? Like, to know that when you take your last breath, that people would have talked to you like you were a conquering king? Yeah. And you threw it all away. For numbers.

For numbers, dude. For numbers, dude. For numbers on a screen. You don't think somehow it was his life where they literally almost killed him, where he literally, he's like, because I do think he wanted to be the best president ever. Like when I think you're crazy. I think they touched on what animates this guy.

I mean, he's a malignant narcissist. His own lawyer, Ty Cobb said that, you know, the guy that was close to him and a lot of legal battles. So wounded narcissist, maybe that's what it is. Wounded narcissist, what a great way to describe people. Because it has to be about you and the numbers on, like, you know, I've read Trump's books before he ever ran for president. And some of the ones He has an affinity For always going backwards

Like he will always attack the past Like anybody that's wronged him Instead of just building Like you could have just been 10 times as wealthy Focusing on the future And I don't know what I mean obviously there's so many things tied to Why we went to war with Iran

And just had this I mean we're running out of missiles We got Pete Hegset And we changed the Department of Defense The Department of War I mean It's bizarre land Yeah, and he could have been the best.

And he could have been the best. And he could have, we all would have been prospering. We all would have been doing great. And instead he chose darkness, dude. And it's like, look at the bushes. Like, I'm sure they're still living well. But that brand is dead. You couldn't get a bush anywhere.

You couldn't get a Clinton anywhere. And they've made it so their kids can never enter any of their kids have to forge their own way. I mean, and now like, I mean, they tried to run a Latino Bush in Texas. I know. And he got his dick kicked in where there's Mexicans everywhere. George P. Bush. Yep. And he got his ass kicked and he lost.

The brand is fucking dead. And look at Dick Cheney's daughter. She just is ran out of fucking town. And now every time she shows up, everyone just thinks she's a stupid, you know, person because of what her dad did. And they just, and it's like such a. You know, we always want to say live in the moment, and I get that in certain ways spiritually. But man, you guys lie, cheat, steal, and killed. And now your kid's brand is fucking dead.

They have to go and become a fucking normie. They can't follow in the family business in any way because you just, your family business was death and destruction. It really lends some of the wisdom to, you know, the psychopathic, path of politics where you get you get the psychopaths and the sociopaths rise to the top then i think about like some lowly pfc serving in the military you tell that kid you know you got to break in that door we got to go take out so and so you know he's dealing weapon whatever it is that pfc's going to go do it risk his life or her life or whatever and you think about just that small act you might never hear of that person gets killed so that courage exists on the bottom level but it doesn't exist hardly ever

at the top echelons. And when people say, well, maybe they threaten his family. You know, and I'm thinking, well, you know, maybe you threaten them back. Maybe you just do it anyway. And I think that's what has happened to JFK. And honestly, something we were, I think you touched on this, or talking about it. It's a weird thing going on with Nixon right now. Yeah, the revisionist history.

Well, I've studied his life for many, many years. And my favorite movie is Oliver Stone's Nixon. I've really delved into his life. There's something weird. about what happened to him that never happened again. It's like he touched something when they got rid of him, like he was the only president to ever resign. So there is something with that.

So I agree with you that's weird. They're pulling him out now. I never thought I'd, I never thought I'd live to see where we'd be talking about tariffs and shit. Like when I were in for Congress, I didn't think any of this stuff. And we passed through this rabbit hole where stuff that I thought about and studied really hard,

like when I was just, nobody talked about it has been talked about now. But yeah, Nixon, I think, touched something with the CIA, with Kennedy. The mob. There was something in there. And he had this weird, you know, competition with dead JFK than his mind, you know, like, and he really liked Jack Ken. They were friends, the Jack Kennedy, you know, they were really good friends. But there's something with that.

And I think that we just reached a point now where there's no heroes. Like there's no, they've got, they're a system level for sure. I mean, the farthest, I mean, we should. to have Ron Paul. And then the closest thing that our generation gets is Thomas Massey. And they just did this to him, which I honestly, if I was Thomas Massey, I'd be smiling too. I mean, just so you'd know, I would smile because now you're a martyr and they can't take that away from you. You just proved the point, you know? So that and who would, who the hell would want to live in D.C. and be in the man, that's, I'm going to ask you one last question. It's kind of a weird way to end the show,

but I love it. So there is this belief right now. The only people talking about a new 9-11 happening is the Zionist. I find that very interesting. They've been doing this for the last 18 months or so saying that they've got intelligence that something's going to happen and something's going to get. They got lots of chatter. We've got intelligence.

We read our own emails. Yeah, yeah. But it's interesting to me because I think what the, desire goal is that they want to be able to pin it on Iran. But going back to some of the stuff we've been talking about today, the brand is dead. And I think if it does happen, you will see an instantly people will go, it's Israel again. What are your thoughts on that? Because I feel like they've played all their cards and they got no hands to play.

And yeah, they'll probably do this traumatic thing because they live off a trauma and they'll get that initial fucking rush from everyone being traumatized because lizards feed off our anxiety. But I don't feel it's going to get people. There will always be retards going to go, we got to get them back for this. But I think the majority of people are like, we know who did it and who's going to do it. And that's why UTPUSA is kind of dying right now because everyone thinks Israel took out Charlie Kirk. And that's a good example.

So you take the Charlie Kirk assassination. in a microcosm and then just make it bigger. So when Charlie Kirk kicked off, everybody goes, yeah, I don't buy the whole trans supporter guy murder thing, right? I don't buy Tyler Robinson. That's at least almost every circle that I follow was like, I don't buy that. Whether he had something to do with it or he's a patsy or something, they don't buy it. So it just take that and expand it.

And it could be horrendous, whatever they pull off. but at this point, they've so damaged people's neural pathways to believe the narrative, and we're not in 2001 anymore. By the way, they had to do that stuff the way that they did it in 2001, I mean, because the technology was about to kick off where you really couldn't put too much surveillance, too many phones, too many loose ends. 100%. And they already were sloppy.

I mean, if you look at Building 7, come on. I mean, I think buildings, I think Building 7. is the propagating, well, might be the sciop, but the real thing is Building 6, and that's why nobody talks about it. I know what you're talking about. They don't want you looking at the fact that that thing's hollowed out and the walls are still up, because now you can't, what did a plane go like that? How does that fucking happen?

I think that Building 7 was the target of Flight 93. That's been my theory that they, I think what happened on 9-11 is that an inner controlling element and the government took control and then we took back control from it. But you could never admit that. You could never say our entire defense system was hijacked for hours. I think it was hijacked and then we took it back and that's what 93 was about, Flight 93. It was supposed to, I think it was supposed to hit building. Do you buy into the stories of like, let's roll?

No. How, as a, you know, I pray I'm never in that situation. because I don't want my kids grow up without father. But if you're on a plane and there's a bunch of towelheads with fucking box cutters, like, how long do you let that go off before you're like, no, you're not hijacking this fucking plane with fucking box cutters? Like, sorry, dude. I mean, like, maybe I'll get cut or something, but at least this plane's going to fucking land,

dude. I mean, like, do you buy, I mean, again, I'm not tough guy. I'm not trying to say I'd fucking, you know, born identity that shit. But it's like at what point you go, okay, this has gone too far and we're going to go fuck these five guys up. There's five of them with tiny box cutters and there's 300 of us on this plane. You've ever been on a plane and tried to use your cell phone? Yeah, exactly. Even now?

Yeah. Like even now with the technology, you don't get a signal. Yeah. And then we have all these supposed calls. The Jim Mars did a great breakdown on like the terror conspiracy book came out like 20 years ago. It's a great breakdown of this. And we'll never know because like COVID, 9-11 is an invisible enemy. You find the passport and the rubble, right?

But it's an invisible. You never see the hijackers, never hear from them. You don't know what this is about. And I think what proves the point that 9-11 wasn't what they said it was, is because all these years later, where's the caliphate? Where's this civilizational war? The only reason we're still fighting in the Middle East is because we're still there. You can just leave.

You can just not do that. I mean, and you can stop funding the groups that blow people up. You can stop giving ISIS the weapons and the Toyota pickups and the intelligence. Stop giving fucking... Don't kill Assad, you know, don't give the Taliban 20 mil a month. Like, what are we doing? You know, suicide bombings there were in Iraq before 2003 in the history? Saddam Hussein killed a million Iranians in the Iran-Iraq war.

Zero. Not one Shia radical said, I'm going to take out this Sunni strong man. Not one. There wasn't one suicide bombing. All of a sudden we invade and there's just suicide bombings and IEDs and it. Well, because one, it's manufactured and the two, we create a religious war. Like, we poked it. Like right now, we think we're going to change regimes in Iran. No, you're not. You know, we've already done this. We did this in 1953 with Operation Ajax. We just threw over Mossadegh and installed the Shah. Like, we don't pick good people. I mean, Stephen Saddam was part of our operations. 100%. So, like, we caused the chaos. in that area because honestly

Israel that's their foreign policy they're not about regime change they're about chaos Tucker Carlson said this the other day which I never heard another commentator say that and I was like that's exactly right just destabilization

fight amongst yourselves and that's the issue that's why 9-11 it shows in the years after that the whole thing was bullshit and it needs to be there still needs to be a reckoning for that I think that we could get there

because there's so many anomalies. Nobody believes that. Yeah. And I just feel that like, if you're just always going to bring emotion to anything, you're never going to change anything. If you're worried about hurting people's feelings instead of doing what's right and fixing it and getting to the source of the problem, you're never going to fix it. If you're, oh, that's mean. That's what they live on, dude, that you're too afraid to call them out in their bullshit because you don't want to be called a meanie. Yeah, it was. polite to talk about the JFK assassination in the 60s and into the 70s. And it took until Oliver Stone released the film that people started talking about it.

And now it's like, oh, yeah, the government. Oh, yeah, I was just at the museum there. And it's the conspiracy theories are incorporated into the six floor museum, which was surprising to me. They're a big part of it. You know, even, even the sign on the building says Lee Harri Oswald allegedly shot JFK on the site. Like, you know, isn't that crazy? Allegedly. And someone underlined it with a marker later

But it's on the plaque Have you ever gone and walked it? Yeah, we just did. Yeah, I just did like a two days ago. I've walked the plaza. I've never gone into the book depositor. That one of the, the 2012 is when I've never gone to the museum. I never walked the grounds.

And I finally went up to the sixth floor and I went to the window. And I looked down and I saw the where he exits from Houston on to Elm, which is that's where you get the term a nightmare on Elm Street. I don't know if you knew that. Oh, really? That's where it's the, in popular culture, it's a nightmare on Elm Street because they changed the parade route at the last minute, you know. So that's another weird, like, why didn't Oswald take the shot where he's coming straight on, you know, like straight down Houston, which is turning into Elm, which goes down. And I would never forget, I was 32, and I walked up there, and I looked down and I go, holy shit.

I realize how hard of a shot that was. Three bolt action shots in less than six seconds. and in the military, not that I wasn't like a sniper. If you ever hear somebody say they're a sniper, it's like 90%. Probably they weren't. I mean, because there's only like 10 guys that are. You know, I mean, I'm not a sniper. But I did shoot expert riflemen, which is pretty hard to do.

And luckily, whoever gave me their rifle, thank you, back in the day, they had tuned that some bitch in really well. Before I went to Iraq and I got my first expert badge because they had really dialed it in. And this was back in the day before, like, sites, you know, like you had just, open sites, hard sites, iron sites. And I shot expert, and I shot it with a gas, like half of it with a gas mask on. So I was like, oh, I'm a decent shot.

And I looked at that, and I said, I couldn't do that shot. And I don't know anybody that could. And then I went to the grassy knoll, and I looked and I saw the trajectory of the X, back into the left. That's the, that is the shot. Right, when you can get away from the train station? Yeah, I mean, yeah,

because if you look at the subbruder film, and if you, if you see some of the pictures that day, the grassy knoll it has the trees over it and it's got that picket fence and supposedly that the person the shooter had like a trench coat on like some people that remit and everybody died by the way they did such a good job oh my god amazing like the guy who was in the tower the same thing with the Vegas shooting killed all the witnesses the towers that was still up there is still in place like the train tower that would watch like the trains come in and um that guy saw

the weird stuff like the smoke and the cops went running up that hill too and right and the guy that saw that and was going to go to the Warren Commission. He died in a one vehicle accident, okay, like in the middle of nowhere, like his car crashed and there's no other car. You know, so like they did a great job just getting rid of witnesses in the JF, or they dumped all that data into the Warren Commission, which, I mean, if you really did, it's such a snow job. But America back then was, was a lot more willing to accept. They trust authority. They did. I mean, some of those power players like George H.W. Bush, you know, that they couldn't remember. remember where he was on November 22nd, 1963.

And they even had Nixon was in Dallas that day. But I think they had it. He was closing the deal for Studebaker. I think they just kind of had him there in proximity to like muddy that. Yeah. Like, oh, he didn't like Kennedy, but he did like Kennedy. They were friends. And it's interesting, days later when, a couple days later, when Ruby shoots Oswald,

Nixon was watching that broadcast. And they said he turned pale because he was what he recognized who Jack Ruby was, because he had summoned Jack Ruby to the House Un-American Activities Committee, and he got Rick's contact, Jack Rubenstein, he got Jack Ruby's contact from LBJ's office. So all these things are interconnected. And, you know, George H.W. Bush couldn't remember where he was, but he was in the phone book of George DeMorin-Shield,

who had to size to intelligence. And, gosh, we had to get Don on the show sometime. He knows all about this. But, like, George DeMorin-Shild was like Oswald's handler. and Poppy Bush, Poppy with his number. Yeah. Was in George DeMoor and Shields contacts. Like, there's, if you can't buy the official characters.

And so many of them were on that, like, presidential intelligence advisory board. That is like the real power, dude. That doesn't, they don't have to play by any rules or, you know, it's crazy. You know, you make a good point about the shot, too, because I thought the same thing. why would he leave himself so little time going away? You know, because he has all this time where Nixon's coming toward him. You mean JFK? I'm sorry, JFK.

Yeah, forgive me. And now I could understand maybe he's afraid that he would take fire possibly from the cops when they are coming at him. Because if he's shooting down on them, they're looking up and they could see him possibly. But it's just a much easier shot. And then he doesn't even, he doesn't take the shot right after they turn either, which you could say maybe he's, you know, siding, siding the president. But you would think he would have already done that and would be following him in the scope, like around that turn. Yeah, there's just so much about it. It's such an easier shot from the grass in all. Think of the language that he used, too, Lee Harvey Oswald after that, when they arrested him at the theater.

I'm a patsy. I'm a patsy. You know, and he had a camera on him that was military grade. It wasn't still being in use, but it was something from, like, wouldn't they used a spy camera in World War II? Like, this is supposed to be a broke guy who believes in Marxism. And he was able to defect to the Soviet Union and then come back, like no big deal. He even had, you got to look at the connection like with George DeMoren Shield, who I think, and maybe I just wouldn't have time, I think before he was supposed to testify before the house on assassinations back in the 70s, they found him like he was floating in the ocean in a 50-gallon drum or something. Like he was one of those characters. Like they got rid of so many people, even up until that time. And that's when they dumped, that's when Dick Helms, the leader of the CIA, started burning all the MK Ultra Files and all that stuff.

That entire, that stuff's fascinating. That's, that's real research. I love that shit. I love hearing about all that, dude. That's the stuff that floats in my brain, but not people that are still alive after other years. Tony, great show, dude. Long and good back, good show to come back at. one more time

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I'm really behind on web stuff I haven't even posted on social media I'm terrible at this I hate it dude but it's part of the gig did you go to tony go to tony dot gold it'll take you to my web website and so it's uh it's actually arterburn dot gold but it's same thing uh tony dot gold will get you to arterburn dot gold there's me look at that stunningly good looking look at that ah look at yeah dude there's me it's official broadcast of the apocalypse i do i love that dude i love that

beans is on my logo thanks for let me have beans again anytime all the time is there is there any other crypto you you hold on to just bitcoin because i hold a little bit of a theory i mean you think i should get rid of it no i you know i think if you like it another crypto, do it. I love the space, and I'm still a subscriber to the copy of my crypto guy that sponsors your show. I just don't hold a lot of other things.

Just mainly because of the scarcity and decentralization aspect of Bitcoin, but if you came and showed me the functionality of a coin, I'm happy to look at it. I own a few things. Most of them haven't gone anywhere, but I'm more of a bit... Most of my... If you give me $100

tell me to save it, I'm probably going to buy some gold and a little bit of Bitcoin and some silver, I stay in those three things. I don't have the brain capacity anymore to hold. There's too many things happen in this revolution of money. I just try to stay in my lane so I can understand. I'll go mad if I try to follow everything. All right.

Great show, man. Enjoy the highlights. Here's a clip from the latest broken sim. We're going to do a tier list of conspiracies that are based on how likely they are to be true. Do you understand the prompt, Sam? S tier at the top you see here. That means that this is absolutely true. We know it.

We know it for a fact that it's true. A is like we're pretty sure like 99% but there's a chance it's not. Okay, I got it. You got it. And then we go B, C, D and then F is fit is flat earth. So F fit is flat earth. Okay, respect. Okay.

Broken Sim rank stuff. Broken Sim ranks up. Brooms. Okay, so we're going to start. The first one here is the moon landing was faked. What's your thoughts, Johnny? I think that that is probably, that's about a B for me. I think there's about a 20% chance that they did land on the moon and an 80% chance they did.

I think it's for sure, which means we average it out. It's an A. So I think it's an A. I think it's for sure. We didn't land on the moon. None of it makes sense. All of it's bullshit. CGI.

How did they get that giant golf car up there on that little ass fucking buggy they took up there? So I'm going to go. You're going to go. I'm going for sure. You're going B. So it's an A. Yeah. Okay.

That's, yeah. I think I think that's fair. we can I almost would put it in C. It's almost like so obvious. Okay. So the next one, we're going to have to be careful because how we say this

because we want to put this on YouTube. We need to do this more. I love this. Yeah, me too. It's fun. The Challenger explosion. All right. So the suggestion is that those folks

may have had an existence that continued. I'm trying to say this in a meandering way for the purpose of YouTube. And maybe, maybe some of them have even been interviewed on YouTube by certain people. Yeah, in their driveway. Yeah, in their driveway.

And they look just like the people that maybe were supposed to have expired. Exactly. Same name. Same everything. And what's really weird is that one of the guys that they say is still alive has a company. I think it's cows in the sky or something. and his logo is a cow that's kind of doing the same cloud like formation of what the challenger did.

You go first on this one. I know you go first, Johnny. Okay. I think this is a C. I think if they were going to do this, I don't think they would have any cause to spare the people involved. They would, so I do not think that they continue on this planet

as in their corporeal form. I'm going to say it's an A. Okay. Okay. I'm 99% sure. Okay. So which would make it a B. Okay.

We'll drop that into the B then. All right. The next one is Princess Dye was murked by the royal family. You want to go first? You go first. You go first. Well, the whole theory is that she's pregnant. with this guy's baby.

The royals did want any Muslim bloodline in their bloodline. Even though you descended from Muhammad, it doesn't make any sense, right? It's so crazy, but then you get into was Muhammad

like who they say he was. And like Johnny, I think you brought up, right, that you can't draw them because you'd have to draw them pale red hair. That's why they don't want you drawing them. You told me that, but no, that wasn't me. So I'm going to go A on this again. Okay. See, I don't.

I think this happened, as they said, and it was just a really terrible accident. I put this as a D. You put A, so we'll settle on C to get one into C. Okay, C. I've done a lot of research on that one, and I'm just not convinced by it. It was the paparazzi were hounding the shit out of her dude. And it, I don't know, everything I've heard makes it sound. like she was genuinely, just the, the, it was just a genuinely terrible accent.

Okay, the next one is that there is real shit going down at Area 51 involving aliens. Like Roswell, that was real, all of that stuff. There was an alien crash. If you'd like to hear the rest of this episode, subscribe to Broken Simulation in your podcasting app or check us out at YouTube.com slash Sam Tripoli. Aaron, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.

That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. Dude, you just blew my mind.