Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #1013: It's All Spells With Owen Benjamin

Episode Date: August 19, 2026

On the latest episode of Tin Foil Hat, we sit down with special guest Owen Benjamin for a wild conversation about how everything in our world is a spell and a magic trick. From the culture wars and th...e history we're taught to the money we use and the systems that control our lives, Owen breaks down how reality is shaped through illusion, manipulation, and deception, and why he believes it's all being run by literal sorcerers. Sam Tripoli's 5th Comedy Special drops Sept 1st on Gas Digital's Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@GaSDigitalNetwork Word War Debate 2 Is Sept 12th live in Nashville: https://wordwardebate.com Please subscribe to the new Tin Foil Hat youtube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/@TinFoilHatYoutube   Grab your copy of the 2nd issue of the Chaos Twins now and join the Army Of Chaos: https://bit.ly/415fDfY   Check out Sam "DoomScrollin with Sam Tripoli and Midnight Mike" Every Tuesday At 4pm pst on Youtube, X Twitter, Rumble and Rokfin! Join the WolfPack at Wise Wolf Gold and Silver and start hedging your financial position by investing in precious metals now! Go to https://www.samtripoli.gold/ and use the promo code "TinFoil" and we thank Tony for supporting our show.   Grab Tickets To Sam Tripoli's Live Shows At SamTripoli.com: Nashvillie: Word War Debate 9/12 Lawerence, KS: 9/17-9/19 Tulsa, OK: 10/9-10/10 Dallsa, Tx: Nov 7th (TrutherCon) Austin, TX: Dec 11th-13th   Please check out Word War Debate and the WordWarDebate Contenders Series: https://wordwardebate.com Please check out Owen Benjamin's internet: Website: Owenbenjamin.com Videos: https://ladle.tv Courses: https://courses.owenbenjamin.com App: https://app.beartariatimes.com/login Twitter: https://x.com/OwenBenjamin       Please check out Sam Tripoli's internet: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Sam Tripoli's Stand Up Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@SamTripoliComedy Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy/%20P Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/   Please support our sponsors: Quince:  Refresh your winter wardrobe with Quince.. Go to Quince dot com slash TINFOILHAT for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. That's Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash TINFOILHAT. Free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince dot com slash TINFOILHAT. Helix Sleep: Helix is offering 27% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to Helix Sleep dot com slash Tinfoil. That's helixsleep.com/tinfoil. This is their best offer yet and it won't last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now. Ethos: Ethos makes getting life insurance fast and easy, 100% online. You can get a quote in seconds, apply in minutes, and get same day coverage. There's no medical exam, you just answer a few simple health questions. You can get up to $3 million in coverage. Some policies are as low as $30 a month. Ethos has 4.8 out of 5 stars on TrustPilot with over 3,000 reviews. Help protect your family with life insurance through Ethos. Get your instant, free quote at ETHOS dot com slash tinfoil. That is E-T-H-O-S dot com slash tinfoil. Application times and rates may vary.  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Dude, they don't seem at all interested in any of Candace Owens' revelations. It's like one thing if you think someone's crazy, but it's like, if someone killed your wife or husband or whatever, like, wouldn't you be like, so they didn't look into any foreign ties? Like, why didn't we do that? Oh, what the fuck are you guys people talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them.
Starting point is 00:00:30 To pinfoil half. We go deep, home, boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. This is only the beginning. Dude, you just blew my mind.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Are you ready to get your mind below? All right, welcome to the wide. Wolf Golden Silver Studios. I'm Sam. I just go to Sam Trembly. Dot Gold. He's promo code tinfoil and you two can get in on the Pairs game for as little as $50 a month. Good to be back. Took a little break. Needed to take off.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Now we're back, supercharged and just kicking in the door blazing the 4-4 with our next guest. Very excited to have him on. He's on a historic run. Been getting on all the big podcasts. Good to see that happen. You know him to love... The Gnome is to love him.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Owen Benjamin. How are you, buddy? Dude, I'm great, man. You have a very strong mustache. It makes me feel very comfortable. Well, you're safe, dude. I got the perimeter locked out. It really does make you feel that way. When a guy's got a well-manicured strong stash, you're just like, things are going to be okay. Yeah, it's a, it's a fun. The reaction has been pretty sweet. I didn't, my dad had a mustache so life, so I decided to try it. And, you know, I got the tombstone look where I keep a little stubble down here.
Starting point is 00:02:05 strong yeah that's how i'm going like a little law and order in the west that's what we're doing oh and for those who live under a rock and don't know you can you tell us a little bit about yourself where our listeners can find you dude at this point i don't even know how to describe what i do for it like i don't even know i sound like i'm in the mob i'm like yeah i do it after it has to get done each day like i have a farm stand i wrote a book i'm a classical piano player. I do comedy. I farm. I'm into anti-Semitic gardening. Like, I don't even know what I am. I can't wait to find out what is anti-Semitic gardening. What is that? No, but that was like one of the first things we, one of the sketches we did like eight years ago. It was it was anti-Semitic gardening
Starting point is 00:02:54 with Owen Benjamin. It would just be me gardening and I just start freaking out about the Federal Reserve. And then I just go back to gardening and I just start freaking out about war. And it was just like really happy music. It was just like, I don't know, it was pretty funny. So you and I are on the deeper ends into conspiracy. You may even go a little deeper than I do. And I don't know how often you run into normies.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Is it, is it crazy that people still use the term conspiracy theorist as almost like a slur? Well, yeah, that's the funniest thing about the conspiracy theorist. is it's only a swear if you take it that way. Yeah, I agree, dude. It really, like, it is an accurate thing. I theorize about conspiracies. You believe people conspire. Yes, like the government has laws to put people who conspire in jail.
Starting point is 00:03:46 And when you're figuring out who's conspiring, they start as theories. It is, it is weird that people don't believe that shit. It's like, I just did a podcast over the weekend at the joke world festival in Florida. And it was a lot of fun. And these guys just brought me on to talk conspiracies. And like basic shit that we've been talking about for years. They were just laughing and blown away and thinking I'm crazy. And it was a fun interview.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I'm not saying it was a bad interview at all, but it was a lot of fun. But it is crazy that, you know, like one guy was like straight up, like love the mainstream media. And it's like, and my girlfriend, she thinks because you watch it's newsmax, like she's broken out of the Matrix. and I'm like, you know, listen to Cuomo. I'm like, the guy just straight up lied to you for years. And now because he's on a different channel, you think he's legit now. And it's just like, how often do they have to lie to you
Starting point is 00:04:41 for you to start going? Maybe these guys don't know what they're talking about. Have you seen the movie The Sheep Detective? No, but I saw the ads for it. Bro, it's no joke. It's like more of a truth or movie than they live. It's like a kid's movie, too. It accurately describes the quote unquote sheeple so well because it doesn't demean them,
Starting point is 00:05:05 but it kind of shows what it is that they get scared and then they choose to forget. And they keep doing that until like their, their shepherd is murdered and they realize they love him enough to not forget. It's like a profound movie, dude. It's like that's how I view a lot of people now. It's just like they get scared and they just choose to forget. Like, because a lot of times for me, I'm like, remember this just happened two years ago? Like, we remember?
Starting point is 00:05:32 And they're like, no, they're like, we don't remember. I'm like, no, we just went through this. This is like a broken record. Yeah, they're running the same gameplay over and over again. You know, you bring up like a kid's movie. You know, I love spending time. Get my kid off their pad. I'll watch movies with them.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And we were watching Captain Underpants. And I'm watching this movie and I'm just like, oh, my. God, it's literally MK Ultra. They're literally teaching kids MK Ultra. And it's the story of these two students who get in a ton of trouble and they get out of it, they hypnotize their principal and they just turn them into like a gist,
Starting point is 00:06:12 a complete insane person who runs around town in his underwear acting like he's a superhero. And it's the ring they use is the pedophile symbol to put this guy under a trance. And he just thinks he's a superhero, which is like the story of everyone who's ever been MK Ultra. You either think you're like a super born identity agent,
Starting point is 00:06:34 which you might have fighting skills, or you're some kind of MK Ultra sex kidding, and you just get manipulated into doing things you wouldn't normally do. And it's like right there in front of you. Like I've been working on this bit for a while. It's kind of as you get older, not every reference to younger generation is going to get, but I've been talking about Mary Poppins
Starting point is 00:06:53 and how like it was sold us as this magical nanny And it's straight up like witchcraft. And like she, she's a fallen angel. She comes, falls out of sky. Uses like, doesn't even teach the kids how to clean the room. She just summons demons to do the cleaning of the room. And then takes the kids to the park to do fucking drugs with homeless people in which they think they're flying on a flying like carousel. And then there's literally like, oh, eyes wide shut scene at the bank where they sacrifice the banker.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And then the guy does a humiliation ritual at the end where he's singing and dancing in the middle of the street. It's like straight up demonic. And we just look at it like as is this loving childhood movie that we all loved as kids. It's kind of crazy. Yeah. A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down, man. Yeah. Cocaine.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Like telling them take blow, dude. It's like crazy to me. Well, that's why I wrote that the book that came out recently, the How to Slay a Wizard. I break down how to look at spells. and how that all works because I think a lot of people could benefit from just understanding how a spell works and how many of there are like what you just described is a total spell and yeah putting those memories in your head and also uh making you think that that's the nonsense right like monsters ink is a similar kids movie where it's about you know all these uh
Starting point is 00:08:19 all these archetypes all these monsters like drenicrome and yeah yeah they scare kids and then suck the essence of the fear out of them. And then, you know, the Federal Reserve is running out of fuel. And they need more fear and more fear and more fear. And then one of the monsters, you know, falls in love with a child. You know, it's crazy. And then kidnaps the child from the family. And I mean, if you go back and watch Hook, you know, I mean, I think Captain Hook was the good guy.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Yeah, there's a real argument. He's the good guy. And Peter Pan's the bad guy. Peter Pan literally makes Jeffrey Epstein look like Marcus Aurelius. It's like you got Tinkerbell is Gislane Maxwell. The children never grow old because they die. Like they feed them to alligators. Well, they come back as literal asses.
Starting point is 00:09:09 That's the whole thing in the middle of the bar. He goes, we take them to this island and they come back as asses. Is that Pinocchio or is that hook? Yeah, that's Pinocchio. You're right. Pinocchio is about a group of people who when they lie, their noses get bigger. You know? And so it's pretty funny, man.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I want to say something to you, Owen. You are the only one of the group of guys who kind of took a big hit on what was labeled as anti-Semitism for a long time. You took a big hit on that. You kind of got excommunicated from a lot of shit. But you're the only one I've seen that has not. aligned himself with T.P. USA now with this Charlie Kirk shit. All these other guys
Starting point is 00:09:58 that were like made their bones on the Kabbalah and Zionism and all this shit back when it was like what we call dangerous dangerous, dangerous. They're safe, dangerous, like talking about like Fauci and COVID when that was acceptable. That became safe dangerous, right? I think there's something going on
Starting point is 00:10:19 with this John F. Kennedy assassination. Yeah, right? So, but you're literally the only one out of that entire crew that hasn't aligned themselves with that entire group of guys who were just banned from the internet that has not lined themselves with TPUSA and the majority of these Zionist people. What are your thoughts on all that? Yeah, shout out to Coach Colin. Yeah, he's that out too. He's great. He pointed out that I was like one of the guys not trying to get back in because I didn't, do the anti-Semitism thing to get popular clicks. Like I had a successful career. For me,
Starting point is 00:10:58 it was about, I'm like, I, it's not autism, but it's like, I got these, these principles. And I'm like, if I'm going to make fun of Christians, I have to make fun of Jews and Muslims. I can't take sides to the point where I, uh, I'll like same with like some certain words. I'm like, if I ban any words, it's like banning a color as a painter. Like I can't. can't do that. And so I didn't do it to get attention or to like, because I hate Jewish people. You know, it was like, I was pointing out APEC and like the Sacchar family and all, like, just obvious things. And I was going at the liability shield. I was going at like this thing that means you can't ever criticize bad behavior because of victim consciousness. So when the smoke cleared,
Starting point is 00:11:43 I, I, I'm not chasing that world. Like I genuinely was like really upset about the opioid deaths and trans kids. Like I was, I, you know, I had a chip on my shoulder for a bit. I got a little bit, you know, understandably paranoid. But like, I always had good intentions. And so, you know, a lot of my life is just like my family farming, teaching piano. So it's like, I, I just try to do what's right and what's funny, you know. And I, and so as the smoke cleared, I'm like, yeah, Candace Owens is crushing. Like, I became like a fan of Candace Jones. Like, I used to think she was like the biggest shill. I used to make fun of her all the time. And I'm like, oh, turns out she's great. Yeah. Like, like, I don't care. Like, I don't hold grudges or anything. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:12:30 dude, I used to make fun of her so hard because I thought she was pregger used to use and Ben Shapiro's little, uh, you know, little mascot. And she may have been at one point, but innocently, though, I think it was innocent. Kind of like how I used to write for Stephen Crowder and I used to like, you know, there's like an innocent way, which I think she was versus. the like the cynical you know like what we're seeing now with these people going all zio war you know Trump's crushing you know that's just like crazy it's very weird to me you know it's very weird because you know there's this whole notion that in order to pass anti-semitism laws we need anti-semitism and that's why like when I bring up how all these other guys have just flipped it's like well did you
Starting point is 00:13:18 just fulfill a role at that point were you fulfilling a role of ramping up to anti-Semitism and now that it's kind of everyone's like kind of going do what the fuck is this bullshit you know now you're kind of flip it to the other side it's very
Starting point is 00:13:33 like people you would never guess that would be aligning with Erica Kirk and all those fucking obvious like paid influencers of TPS USA are just totally deepthroating this transfer shit and it's like listen it's possible but it's like if you study any of this high
Starting point is 00:13:54 impact events and particularly assassinations there's always a hidden hand and it's just crazy to me that just saying that this seems like what we've seen before people are just losing their fucking minds and it's just like I don't understand it it's very weird yeah it might be a money thing it's also like what coach Colin was saying that the they yearn to get back into Greece. You know, like, Socrates called it the, the prison of nostalgia where they're like,
Starting point is 00:14:26 I want to be the special boy again. I want people to like me, you know, and I just don't have that. I mean, I want people to like me, but it's like, I think they,
Starting point is 00:14:35 they're just like, if I, because it does suck. Like, you face backlash before. It's like, it sucks being like, ridiculed and called evil and media and stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:44 And you're just like, uncle, you know, like, what can I say to make it stuff? Do I say Erica Kirk is grieving differently by bragging about merch sales? Like, well, that, and the devil hates his servants. They never let you back.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Like, they never really let you back in because they know you know. So it's like, there's no fake in it. Like once you're on your knees, you're not ever coming off those knees. And it's like, and why? It's like there's no point. It's not even the world's not as scary as I once thought. It's like, I mean, it's horrifying. Don't get me wrong, but it's always the internal struggle of like lying to myself or
Starting point is 00:15:18 own cowardice or something it's not external and it is that you know they have been talking about this everything forever like the raptures every two weeks and stuff like that and it never does happen because it's incremental tiny steps i mean we do i do think a digital prison is coming and what what does that mean like and you know you always hear like america's going to fall the empire but was that actually mean when someone says the empire is going to fall because the country country and the community and the people and the empire two different things like Rome fell at least still there Russia fell Russia still there China fell China's still there what does that mean what what does it mean when the empire because I think there's this like belief system that on total
Starting point is 00:16:07 annihilation is going to happen which I mean it could happen no chance it doesn't I don't see that in history where I mean unless it's like a major like event where asteroids or giant asteroid hits the planet. We have a younger dryness again. You know, that doesn't see outside of that. I don't see where what's on
Starting point is 00:16:30 the other side. I think it's about identity. Yeah, it's like people's identity is apocalyptic, you know, where it's like patriot, American, like empire, like all these things. My buddy has a joke about a lot of Italians during World War II. It's like before Mussolini,
Starting point is 00:16:46 he was like, my, of an Italian before Mussolini, chow. My impression of Italian after Mussolini, chow. It's like, yeah, but if your identity is Mussolini, your world has ended. You know, it's like people like I wanted to do a sketch where it's Game of Thrones, but it's just dudes growing potatoes and just kind of hearing stuff about a crazy bitch, you know, because that's true. It's like, because I'm not really, I'm not identified with politics.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I'm not identified with, you know, that's why I always make fun of race and all this stuff. I always make fun of like identity, like these false identities that people put out. And if you don't really have a lot of those or if you just kind of make fun of yours, like, you know, if I had pride in farmer or homesteader, like, and if someone made fun of that, that would actually be like a service to me because my ego wouldn't build up where I think I'm someone I'm not, you know? Yeah, I agree with that. You know, you brought this a little earlier, but it's like these.
Starting point is 00:17:47 protected classes. It's like after World War II, obviously Jewish people. And then in the 80s, a protected bubble was put over gays, blacks, women that if you made any kind of criticism from the outside, you were labeled a hate monger. And I've said this before, but it's really dangerous for those groups because they become the most extreme version of themselves without outside criticism. It's like my friend Scott Ross said this a long time. about why men in prison are the most extreme version of themselves. There's violence and rape and all that stuff. It's because there's no women in there doing any kind of like reinforcing and punishing
Starting point is 00:18:31 behavior. And that's what kind of happens. So we get into this BLM shit, Zionism, fourth wave feminism, you know, queer theory, because you can't, you can't criticize it. No one can check you at all. I'm going, hey, dude, you're entering Kukkah. land and something that you just said is I and this is kind of where I am and been there for a little while is that I no one's above criticism or comedy and don't don't add a don't put a gun to my head
Starting point is 00:19:02 for 20 years about diversity and you know and DEI and all that shit and then get mad that I point out funny things I see in diversity it's not all just sunshine and blue skies there's like they do retarded shit. And I'm not going to take your gas lighting. And I think it's better for them. I think, you know, when people start talking about black fatigue, right, that starts to put pressure on the black community to stop acting like crazy people out all the time.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And you can get mad at that statement. And maybe that's Twitter just feeding us the worst of this, but they are happening. You know, like back in the day, there was a comedy union. I'm Pico. I've done that. I've done the Comedy Union. And mixed nuts, used to be mixed nuts. And then mixed nuts, the owner said, I'm moving.
Starting point is 00:19:54 He moved deeper into the valley. And I mean, deeper into the hood. And I literally have black comics going, I'm not going out there. I'll get fucking shot. And it's, why is that? Why is that? That's hilarious. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I have a friend of mine whose girlfriend told him the biggest problem in America is white supremacy. and I'm like, well, then why does everybody want to live in a white neighborhood? Well, yeah, the lies people tell themselves are the most dangerous. You know, I like the AA thing of, you're only as sick as your secrets, but I think you're only as sick as your lies, you know, and so when you lie to yourself, like, what you just described, I think not given someone comedy, like being able to make fun of of their identity is actually extremely cruel. You know, I make fun of dudes in wheelchairs, veterans, all of it, you know, like Veterans Day,
Starting point is 00:20:44 I'm always like, haven't you guys been given enough? You know, I just make fun of them. I'm just like, you guys got to get free drugs, shoot anyone you want. If you really laid it on the line, it would be Memorial Day, you know? But you had to come home like a coward. Or like, no, I know, but they're like, thank you, dude. Because it's like the pedestal, you know. Like I have so many vet friends.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Me and my brother used to do, he would do this thing we called Treehab, where in Saranac Lake, my brother's a tree, tree worker. And they go to rehab for like opioids or something coming home from extreme combat. And it wouldn't work. But if they did like a lot of work, like a lot of like mission focused, high stakes, like exhausting work, they could get off heroin, you know? And we, we were always joking about that stuff. He's like, bro, I've killed so many people. Some of them, I have, like they can't let that out if everyone's just like, thank you for your service. you know if i'm going to make fun of you and myself and everybody like why wouldn't i let in a handicap guy it's like you really need the the space at home depot you're in a little throne
Starting point is 00:21:52 just gliding around while mother with a bunch of kids as to walk from the back because you got shot in the back by and crack in baltimore now you know and they're just crying laughing because they're or if i'm like at least help out like put a lawnmower blade under the wheelchair you know i'm like You can still be part of society. And it's, yeah. I do think it's, you know, when I remember one time at the comedy store, I'd walked in and the energy in the OR was really weird. And I'd walk to the booth.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I go, what's going on? It's weird in here. They're like, there's a blind guy heckling. And I used to love that shit. I used to, and I would just walk, I was watching it. And Brett Ernst walked up and this guy starts telling him he sucks. And Brett starts laying. into him and somebody else, he's blind.
Starting point is 00:22:40 And Brett's like, I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry. I go, dude, this guy heckles me. I'm going to murder this one. Yes. So I walk up, I start and I just start killing him. Then his wife starts jumping. I start killing her. Half the crowd hates me. Half the crowd is loving it.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And I get on stage and guess what? The blind guy wants to take a picture with me. Of course. It was the best day of his life. Dude, I was a heckler at a Renaissance festival. That was my job, dude. It's like in like high school, I have like, in arms out of a stock and thousands of tomatoes a day where I just have to go person to person to person your mom wants to have sex with me you're fat blah blah blah and dude it was like real it was like an
Starting point is 00:23:20 exorcism and because I was always trying to beat the beat the joust you know I wanted more more people than the joust and so and like sometimes it would get really wild and dude they want that they don't want to be hated they don't want you to like like pick them out and like embarrass them but if they're if you know boundaries are really good for people you know it's like you just someone's heckling just you know you got if you don't push back yeah yeah people who have it too good they get really upset they get really upset they get really upset because they don't have anything in their life to that gives them purpose so they they have to find it and it's like it's really crazy that like people like Malcolm Max and people like the
Starting point is 00:24:06 Unabomber said hey man the white progressive is the most dangerous person in the world because they'll lie to your face and it's the old saying like you know it's like Republicans are openly racist secretly gay and progressives are openly gay
Starting point is 00:24:24 dude so true that's so true yeah that's why they really feel bad for these people they don't they don't they don't dude if you really like you've been doing comedy. You make fun of your kids. You make fun of your wife, your girlfriend. You make fun of your mother, your father.
Starting point is 00:24:39 You make fun of people you love. I mean, if I make fun of all these people, why can't I make fun of all these other people? If the people I hold dear to my heart, people I step in front of a bus to save, why can I make fun of these other people? And that's the thing is you can. They just might not be allowed on PayPal for a few years.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Yeah. But don't you feel like that's kind of over, though? It's weird. Like the gates are down. It costs them a lot. They lost a lot of business. And when they did that, they allowed competitors to thrive.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And culture change too. Like it just, I just don't feel it anymore. Like, even people that used to be like real freaked out about me are like, hey, how you doing, man? Like,
Starting point is 00:25:19 they're just, I think they can feel that I don't have any resentment or anything. And I'm, and they're just like, it just feels like a weight's been lifted. Well, you know, it's like everybody's come around to you.
Starting point is 00:25:31 And, you know, Like I told you at Bohemian Grove, I always used to really get perturbed when people would say you failed in Hollywood because you had an extraordinary career. I mean, you were in a... I mean, we both came from upstate New York
Starting point is 00:25:46 to come into upstate New York and be in a major movie, to be in a major fucking television show and to have specials on TV. Most people don't understand how hard that is. Like how incredibly difficult that is. I think if people really understood how much the game is rigged against you
Starting point is 00:26:08 when you come to L.A. And to achieve any of that shit is incredible. You did 10 times more than I did. Like, it wasn't even, I got one, like, non-union TV show. Guys, listen, I'm 53. I'm a dad.
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Starting point is 00:30:34 Enjoy your sleep, folks. A lot of people don't want to admit they're being a coward or they're like being a liar. So they have to justify it by being like, oh no, he ate one pot brownie with Joey Diaz, went insane, ran away, and he was never really a comedian. because if not, people have to admit like, you know, I just don't want to do the Caitlin Jenner or the Jew joke because I like money. And that's why I almost like those guys even better. Like when I was watching the Candace Owens Patrick Bet David, the Candice Owens, Andrew Wilson debate, Patrick Bad David is so clearly self-interested that like, I almost think he's fine. He's just like, listen, this is a very good product.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I'm really looking to make some money. And I'm like, dude, go for it. You know what I mean? I'm like, it's like the progressive thing we're just talking about. Just be you, man. Don't pretend that you're something you're not. You know, it's like, you know what those guys call their listeners, the market.
Starting point is 00:31:28 They don't call people who listen to. Yeah, too. They call, well, the market has responded and said that, uh, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No, openly they called the debate. Patrick Bet David called the debate before it started a product. He's such a weird guy. He's like, we have a wonderful product for you, you know.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And I'm like, okay, that's the, that's the Persian guy selling the rug. I'm into it. You know, it's the people, because like, when my manager dropped me for crushing too hard, he was fine. My agent pretended I was evil, and I knew he knew I wasn't. And that, I was like, dude, this is, this is sick. Like, I didn't even say this because they don't care. You know, there's a narcissistic bubble.
Starting point is 00:32:08 But my manager, I still, I still can talk to him because he's just like, dude, I don't know what to do. I get all these calls. I'm like, I get it. You know, just don't pretend. that something is what it isn't. Like, you know, I mean, how much of that, like, I understand what they're saying, but at the same time, like, how much of these calls actually mean anything? How much of these calls are like, oh, I'm going to fucking not, not,
Starting point is 00:32:34 because not going to frequently, I'm not going to do business with you. Like, I have a good friend of mine right now that is getting murdered for calling a white guy the M word. And he called a white guy the M word. and these people are calling up comedy clubs and canceling him. Oh, yeah, yeah. But my question is to the comedy club, how many of those people actually come to your club? Yeah, no, they're just, they're in fear.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I think a lot of it is just debt. When you're in an un-payable amount of debt, I think that that world is so scary, where it's like if they miss one week, if there's one scandal, it's like they lose everything immediately. in their mind, because that's everything to them. To me, everything is, like, for me, my reputation, my word, my honor is more important than money. But that's just because I watched what money can do to people.
Starting point is 00:33:26 You know, growing up, I just saw how it, like, can really shred someone. So I just, you know, I have, I have compassion for them because it's just dumb. It's like, I do understand that, like, as a comic is passing through market, they're passing through. and the club is still there. But the question becomes like, are you really servicing your clientele? Well, no, I mean, if it was a real free market,
Starting point is 00:33:57 no, they'd be like the best comedy club, like anyone that didn't cook or any business that stayed open with COVID. But it's kind of like the comics that are trying to get Netflix specials. They're not trying to get the laughs from the crowd. They're trying to get the laughs from the executive in the back. That's exactly it, dude.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I mean, that is what? happen. I'm still in L.A. regrettably. I'm figuring out way out as we speak, but, you know, it's like this town no longer pushes culture. Like there was a time where it was
Starting point is 00:34:28 super interesting. It was. There was, dude, we had a great time. It didn't used to be like this. Dude, Tim Dillon nailed it when he was like, he was like, Iran, the whole world just saw that we can't kill anybody anymore. And then he goes, we got to
Starting point is 00:34:44 it real entertaining again. Which I totally agree. No, dude, he nailed it. He's like, we got to be like fun with like good music again. And like, yeah, we got to like make fun culture and be like cool dudes to hang with. Because Iran was such a debacle. Like there's no nukes. I hate to break it to everybody, but like there's no nukes.
Starting point is 00:35:05 You don't think Trump and Netanyahu would have dropped it. They're like, we're going to burn them for like. It's going to be like World War II. dude dude it's one of the biggest siops of and it's so obvious that it's like but some people can't they're like but so many people would have to be in on i'm like that is not true like you could guard a box for 30 years like there's no you've never seen a nuclear bomb explode horosha minagasaki have no fallout they weren't even in the top 10 most destroyed cities you know in nevada like your buddy's in uh in in in Vegas right now it's like they were watching mushroom clouds like there's no
Starting point is 00:35:42 radiation and people are like well what does that mean matter i'm like that's the only thing that makes it a nuclear bomb or else it's just a bomb yeah i it's it's i always say big bombs go boom i'm like why did they move right back in johnny brings up picture they have like blue wolves now in in chenoboble but that's about it i mean chinoble actually like extinct animals came back it's like a nature preserve yeah it's like crazy to me so i want to get into because you you know i don't Why is that from Oswego? You know Oswego. We had three new plants. I do we used to swim in the water because it was warmer. It's like it's just heat. It's so true dude that guy that that guy that built all the plants said we used to swim in the water. He ate uranium. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I was raised with this stuff. A bunch of my buddies works it worked at new plants and they're like retarded and they're just like yeah dude. It just boils and shit. They're just like it's not anything like my town had those Homer's Simpson, uh, nukes like three of them just huge white clouds coming up all day long. There's not even a higher cancer rate and everyone's drunk all the time.
Starting point is 00:36:51 It's like it's just not a real thing. But it's a great way to scare people. Yeah, yeah. And a great way to keep people in line. Like, you know, it's like, oh my God, nuclear bombs. We got to stop Iran. But hey, North Korea somehow can figure it out. Like how does North Korea figure out a fucking nuclear bomb?
Starting point is 00:37:12 bomb. And Iran can't. Dude, I used to be in a podcast at Caltech with nuclear physicists. And dude, it's just not a real thing. They're like, it's best to just act like it's real.
Starting point is 00:37:24 It's like game theory. Nuclear energy is super real. Nuclear energy is super real and it's great. But like the bomb, it was called Fat Man and Little Boy. And it was dropped by the Anola Gay, which is alone backwards. Anola E.
Starting point is 00:37:37 It's alone and gay. And they're like little bombs. it's the fat man and the little boy it's just like a petto joke what do you think so what's to stop iran from just saying we have one like if if that's what north korea isn't doing actually what what's to stop iran from why won't they just let's see this is this is how it works psychologically because like in our mind we think iran talks right because people would always say this about the moon landing why wouldn't russia tell us blah blah blah it's like who what interest like think about how hard it is.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Aligarchies help oligarchies. Exactly. Yeah. Me and my, if I have a farm and my neighbor has a farm, we're, even if we're competing, we're not with the cows. You know what I mean? They're like, at no point are they like, we're just going to spill the beans on one of our like, you know, mind fuck weapons like to the cows. No, you know, you could fight about grain and fight about pasture and all that, but like it's not like we're going to line align with the cow.
Starting point is 00:38:40 No, but what I mean is do you think Iran thinks that they are trying to get a nuke or do they know they're not trying to. I think that the actual nuke, I think they use kind of like, I don't think it's all just a lie. I think it's just kind of about something else because the petrodower is based on oil. So it's like what would the nuke really be? I think nuclear energy is actually an economic nuke. So it's like if somebody's developing nuclear power or anything like Gaddafi, like anything that went against.
Starting point is 00:39:08 the dollar, that's like a weapon of mass destruction. And there's, you know, there's something to be said for that. Like if the dollar falls. But also, Owen, like, if there is going to be a new world order, everybody wants to seat there. Like, Russia wants a seat there. China wants to seat there. And Iran wants a seat there. And Iran is making money selling oil to China. They're crushing. Everybody in America that's in oil is making more fucking money. The, the gas your pumping right now that oil was fucking pulled out a year ago or two years ago way before any of this bullshit ever happened so it's just made up man it's just the Saudis aren't even real Saudis they're fucking British they were putting there by the monarchy it's just total bullshit dude
Starting point is 00:39:58 it's narratives to justify economic shifts because you know it's like feminism was a way to justify we're going to put your moms to work you know where it's like yeah we're going to put all your moms to work because the dollar's losing value. But guess what? It's because you're so strong. And then they're just like, yes. Yeah, I'm a strong person. Just think about that. Like how to convince somebody to go against their biological drive and to be like, you know, I'm not a baby factor. You literally are. I like, I hate to tell you that. That's why you bleed once a month. Like that's, that's what you're built to do. And for you to like convince yourself, that isn't what will make you happy.
Starting point is 00:40:38 having kids is work dude it's it's it's work you're you're domesticating wild animals and like we have a prison system full of wild animals that never got domesticated and learn how to play the game of life so that's your job so those moments are hard but those magical moments to make it all fucking worthwhile and and to have old feminists like like chelsea handler is on the scorched the earth tour to convince everybody she's she's fucking happy. Oh yeah. That's the thing is it doesn't. It's what we were talking about earlier. It's like the lies you tell yourself are the worst lies because it just ends up not working. You're just not functional. She's like, no, I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Look at me. 85% of us are on tons of drugs so we don't off ourselves. And we got an adopted little kitten instead of a baby. And we have so much guilt around abortion that we're trying to tell everybody else to have one. It's like, but I say N word instead of the bad. word so i'm good unbelievable dude the n word drives me my whole job you know you started it and i've kind of pick up the mantle with you well done it's just to like kill that fucking word just kill the fucking word kill the word because dude the chris rock joke was so accurate it's one reason why i just get so
Starting point is 00:41:59 bum sometimes i not really anymore but when he's like i love black people but i hate and then you know he's he's showing he's showing because it's cruel to say because people are like, oh, 50% of the murders or 13% of blah, blah, blah. I'm like, now people think it's just blacks are just always violent. I'm like, no, every white isn't fat at Walmart covered in Mountain Dew. Like we call that white trash. 100%. And so if you don't have that subgroup that you can be like, no, I'm not like that.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I take accountability. I don't have victim consciousness. And like, it's cruel. It's cruel to do that. It's cruel to say, oh, they can't hear a word. They're such animals. They'll just explode. I want to get into a couple things with you.
Starting point is 00:42:43 What is your theory? I've been seen on the internet. You think they ate Charlie Kirk, for real? Dude, at first it was about a one percent. It was like a joke. I was like kind of being funny. The reaction was so, because you know how a joke?
Starting point is 00:42:59 If people are reacting like it isn't even in the, like, like that it's in the realm of reality and hate, it's like, oh, dude, you ate Charlie Kirk. You know, because it's like a joke is like you have reality and then you have the extreme. You have the exaggeration, the satire, whatever. Because my first joke was them saying basically you have to prove that Tyler Robinson isn't guilty, which is inverted.
Starting point is 00:43:23 America, it's innocent to proven guilty. So I was like, prove that you didn't eat Charlie Kirk. Like I was kind of joking. And then I started seeing these clips of like that one dude on Sean Ryan when he's like, and the blood was in my mouth and I tasted it. And he's like rubbing his lips and stuff. And, and they gave Sean Ryan show like a piece of Charlie Kirk's blood is like a keepsake. And they're like, we're good.
Starting point is 00:43:48 And you just keep hearing stuff like his brains are in you now from the widow, you know? And it's like, you know, you know as well as I do that when people go way off the path, the whole world just starts eating people. I mean, it's like, like, like they, like they think there's some kind of magic or power in that, like all around the world. And I'd give it about 15%, but it was 1%. And now I'd think that they might have eaten Charlie Kirk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:17 So the big thing is that a Bohemian Grove, I heard there was like some cop there that was just freaking the fuck out that you guys were talking about that? Yeah, and we're being super funny about it. I like said what I just said. I wasn't like, they definitely ate Charlie Kirk. I was like, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. So that cop has definitely seen dead kids in traffic, you know, accidents. It's like, but he can't hear a funny dude talk about maybe they ate because his identity, his identity as a police officer, like he can't possibly even think about that and still be,
Starting point is 00:44:53 you know, mega red pill, you know, not red, what would his identity be? Like, you know, Trump, Fox News. Like he can't possibly, if he's even close to being like a, you know, bless Israel. and God blesses you guy, like one of those guys, like one of those Zionist guys. Dude, hearing what I was saying, the reason he's so angry is because it's not out of the realm of possibility. It's like deep down, he knows it doesn't really make sense. Like I remember when people used to say, I can't believe that you've ever made fun of Jews or
Starting point is 00:45:24 haven't they've been through enough. And I would always go, so you're telling me they've, they're never up to anything. Yeah, that's the whole thing, dude. Like, like they're just, they're pure as the driven snow. like they have a word called hutspah which just means like hardcore balzy lies to get money or ass you know i'm like you're telling me they're never up to anything ever and they're just like i'm like i'm not saying they're the root of evil or anything i'm just saying like you're telling me you don't know a jew that's like needs to be made fun of for like his antics i mean
Starting point is 00:45:57 harry's a whole fucking special was just calling out a jewish shit and they did that law shit they didn't want to do that special and he did it anyways because he doesn't give a shit. But again, dude, it's this whole thing where it's like, you know, I got this project that's working on and we're meeting with a couple people and I just know they're going to go
Starting point is 00:46:20 my Twitter and just be like, you hate Jews. And I'm like, I don't. I live with, I've been living with it. It's changing now though, man. I'm telling you that there's almost as much of a chance that they're going to be like, oh yeah, we're making this. You get it. Like, dude, the whole world's changing.
Starting point is 00:46:34 And back then I even told people, I'm like, dude, just admit you're like annoying, femmy, like, pussy, like, mama's boys. Like, that's the whole joke. I'm like, if not, they're going to think you're like the devil eating their kids. But it's also that, like, if you think things are going to shit, right? Let's just say the average person is watching the news all the time. Yeah. And they're like, the world's going to shit.
Starting point is 00:46:59 You're like, the world isn't as scary as I used to think it is. But a lot of people think it's super. scary. Super scary. You're never going to fix anything. No. If you bring emotion to everything you fucking do. Like if you're all, if I go, here's a problem, right?
Starting point is 00:47:15 The Zohar and the Ptolemaud have some pretty fucking weird shit in it. And your first, your first reaction is, oh, that's anti-Semitism. It's nothing ever changes. And it's like, my big thing on the internet is like, when, when, especially Jewish, and say crazy shit about white people, about they shouldn't have kids, they shouldn't do any of this stuff. I just retweet it.
Starting point is 00:47:42 And people could get that, you think that's anti-Semitism, even though I don't understand it because it's a quote from something. Dude, the thing that would always get me pissed off is like, I would quote their brags and then people would be like,
Starting point is 00:47:55 you're full of hate. Dude, Dennis Prager was like, every is us, you know, feminism, communism, socialism, socialism, every is them. And I'm like, every is them. And they're like, oh, how dare you?
Starting point is 00:48:06 I'm like, this is the problem. And that's why it's kind of backfiring now. It's backfiring in a major way to the point where I called it years ago. I'm like, I'm going to be the one defending the Delhi Jew. I'm like, you have war Jews, sodomy Jews and Delhi Jews. And so you got, you know, the left Marxist, sodomy Jews, that this big power Jews. And that you do also just have that Jew at the Delhi. That's just like a normal guy.
Starting point is 00:48:32 And he's going to be holding the bag. Like, that's always what happens. And again, it's like if you're like white supremacy is a problem, if you're like Sharia law, if I go, hey man, does the Catholic Church have a pet file problem? Most people would say, yeah. If I go, Muslims have a terrorist problem. Most people would say, yeah. You know, what about what about the, or Christian nationalism, even though I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:49:00 No, there's some annoying guys. It's like, there's a guy. But they're like nothing. They don't really do much. They're just the ones that are like, oh, white brother. You know, that's a weakness too. Because you're like, if you put any identity over actual competence, honor, like being good at something, you're going to lose to the other guy.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I just want it and I live it where it's like, if it turns out it's a bunch of white people, that's not a negative. You know, it's like, yeah, we like playing croquet. We're not going to force a Japanese guy to do it. Right. And I also say this all, but to finish my thought is that. If you're okay with all these other major religions and pointing out their major flaws, which is everywhere on the internet all the time,
Starting point is 00:49:43 you can't the third one of the big three, you're not allowed to point out. Right, which is like the worst one. I remember, like in Hollywood, I was pointing out petos and people called me anti-Semitic and I literally didn't even put it together. I was so innocent.
Starting point is 00:49:58 I was like, just naming guys, how is he still working at Nickelodeon, blah, blah. And people are like, oh you just hate jews i'm like holy shit they're all jews well i mean larry david that's a famous fucking monologue on saturday night live what do you say he goes ah they all seem to be uh jewish yeah yeah laughs really loud but if anyone else says that and again it's like
Starting point is 00:50:23 there's comics out there i'm not going to say their name because i just i'm getting better at that by the way i'm like i'm fine with describing behavior and not using an example. You're much, you're, I'm the worst at that, dude. I'm just like, oh, yeah, this guy. You like Twitter beefs. I, not really. I've actually pulled back on that.
Starting point is 00:50:43 I try to, unless it's just like someone who's just sucks and it's just like, and they started and it's like funny. I'm actually trying to be a little more diplomatic where I'm just like, oh yeah, people who do this. I don't have to actually like say anyone's name. Anyway, go on. But there's this, you know, particular, there's a couple cons. again, not getting into their names, that just made their bones off a racking on everybody. Like all the, again, the safe, dangerous fucking targets. Yeah, it's so gay.
Starting point is 00:51:13 And I think he, I would say he probably really hates those people. But I make fun of everybody and I don't hate anybody. I don't hate anybody either. You know, it's like, I flunk first grade, dude. You know, it's like, you know, when you talk about the definition of racism, they only do the first part of the definition. you know about basically being bigoted but they don't do the second part which is that to make to believe that you're better than everybody and i'm like i'm not better than anybody i mean you mean a
Starting point is 00:51:44 chosen person yeah well dude that's why i want to get into you a lot so one of the things that i my belief is is that the big bang theory comes from the zohar and it's the moment where god puts all his energy into the tree of life. This is in the book. Into the tree of life. It's so powerful that explodes everywhere. And that sounds like Big Bang to me, dude. And we had, you know, J.T. follows J.C. on. He was talking about in the 1840s. You know, they made a decision to make the Kabbalah known to everybody. They were going to put it out. And then after that, you see all the different denominations of Christianity starting
Starting point is 00:52:21 to show up everywhere like that. But that kind of lines up because everyone's like, oh, it's Jesuits. but everything is like Babylonian magic to me. It's all sorcery and it just infantry. Dude, it's wizards, bro. It's all fucking wizards. Dude, I think a lot of it goes to like guys that can read the sky. I don't think you're wrong on that at all. Bro.
Starting point is 00:52:42 It's like it's pretty wild because there's massive eras that let you know. You know, when you look at the moon, you know what part of the month you're in. When you look at the sun, you know, like what part of the year you're in. You know, it's like there are people. people that look at the stars and they're like, okay, this is a time of blah, blah, blah, and they capitalize on it. And they understand wizard spells. They understand how to hijack people's identities, beliefs, assumptions, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:08 like safe and effective. The reason it work, because it is, but safe for who, effective at what, you know? Great point, dude. It's like the assumptions are where everybody gets it, you know, where everybody, it's like, oh, one nation under God, which nation? Do they have big noses? You know, it's like, which nation is the one nation? They're like, oh, you got us.
Starting point is 00:53:30 It's us. And you're like, totally, because I was, that's why the irony about the word racist is the deepest irony, man. Because you know where we're from, there's a lot of American Indians and I played all across and you got Mohawks and Oneida, O'Gonquin, all that stuff, like Iroquois. And the first dude to ever say the word racist was a general. His name was General Pratt. He's the guy that said, kill the Indian, say. the man racist meant you couldn't be like your tribe anymore so everybody had to be like banana republic indian in like 1880 and so if you wanted to speak your language have your own food that was called
Starting point is 00:54:08 racist like you were a racist and so i'm like i'm not a big a that's interesting i'm not i'm a racist and i'm not a bigot i'm like i want to go to ireland and see ireland i want to go to morocco and have morocan food like i don't want everything to be homogenized passionized passion into like this corporate garbage bigotry is like I'm better than you because of this like subjective race thing. Racism just means like you can have a people like you can have you know like this is you know like like nation is an extended extension of family and then and then those people when honorable you just get a long grade and there's actual diversity in the world. That's again like that they want like diversity of nonsense character. but no diversity of thought, food, way of life. It's just Starbucks and whatever. It's just like whatever you're fed, like these fake,
Starting point is 00:55:03 these fake non-real identities, you know? No, you're totally right. And you see it in like Hollywood for sure. Like it's, it's, I call them demographic mascots. People just are demographic mascots. And it's just like plug and play. And that's why Hollywood is dying because a bunch of rich kids. Like everything that becomes a moneymaker.
Starting point is 00:55:24 fucking trust fund kids come in fucking overtake it and then change the rules so they can thrive and again going back like LA is still stuck in 2010 you know it's like I go on the road I say every word everybody fucking laughs
Starting point is 00:55:39 nobody gives a shit nobody fucking cares so people get people they find out I'm an eighth Jew and they're like oof I'm like you guys don't know the world anymore you know and it's funny like back in the day I came up with this real estate idea in LA where I said, uh, gangs, artists, gays, hipsters yoga mats.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Like that was like echo parks over like all this stuff. It's like gangs, then the artists come in. Then the gaze follow the artist. That's when the money starts coming in. Then the hipsters come in with all. And then once you see a white girl alone with a yoga mat sell, right? And so, and so it's true. You buy at the gaze.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Like when the first gaze, you trickle into the art scene, you buy, you sell when you see the first single, you know. And it just kept going, though. Then it was like, then change all the rules, money pumps in. And then they're competing for money and not the thing they say they're doing. Like that Silicon Valley show was so right when he's like, we don't sell a computer program. We sell a stock. It's like everything's about belief, you know?
Starting point is 00:56:44 Like do you believe in this stock? Yeah. And it's like not, that's why technology isn't actually advancing the way people think it is. It's like because they're not like, like I have a 1999 Ford F350 with 350,000 miles on diesel. I call her sweet Melissa Etheridge. It's a lesbian truck. Dude, it never breaks. And I can just fix it.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I could run it on like used motor oil. It just in 1999, just doesn't break. And it's like because like back then it was more you built things to be what it is. And now it's like, oh, it has to break an. months that way we can charge them this this this and it's just chasing the dollar and so when with the dollar someone's god they're gonna they're actually gonna end up failing horribly because like look at me like i've had my ups and downs but when the smoke clears it's like i have a very loyal audience i i do fine because i never i never took the dollar to lie yes you're authentic to what you do
Starting point is 00:57:45 and now and now even the fake people are like our brand has to be authentic like it's they're they're making fake. It's like, they're like, authentic is the big thing now. Right. So it's not authentic. It has to appear authentic. Right. Like, just be authentic. They're like, but we never developed as people. We didn't have a mom. Yeah. And it's just like the, the, the, um, how people in Hollywood like to cosplay liberators by reality. They're 100% conformist. When your political views match up with the government, with corporations, with all these NGOs that are trying to as aster turf culture wars, you're not authentic. You're not a free thinker. If you think there's rules to comedy, you're not a free thinker. That's my opinion. Now, I have a couple of rules.
Starting point is 00:58:40 My rule is like, don't go after people's kids. That's pretty much it. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't go out to people's kids. Leave their kids fucking out. Yeah, no public figures. No public figures. Yeah. Don't go like if the kids There's the only public figures Yeah yeah exactly You can go after Trump's kids Because they're in the fucking business
Starting point is 00:58:57 Right exactly Right But if they're That's like Erica Kirk People are like Don't go after the widow I'm like she's a political force CEO
Starting point is 00:59:04 In my face all the time No she's in the game You know The question becomes like Is she a fucking MK Ultra I think she's totally like Like she's just been Yeah here you are today Erica
Starting point is 00:59:17 Yeah Oh yeah When she there's that video Of when she's staring at at Charlie and she's like, like she's just like so horny and in love. And I'm like, dude,
Starting point is 00:59:29 someone just hit a button. It was like a trigger word or something. I think they're all at that level. I mean, they're all turned out. They're all turned out. They're all traumatized. And their job is to fucking be subversive to men
Starting point is 00:59:41 to compromise them or spy on them, wiretap them, and compromise them into doing weird shit. And it's like, you know, the demonic push of everything that it finds itself into like queer theory and feminism and all that shit. I totally get that. But also the demonization of sex is, is there's a lot of blackmail in that. Guys, it's just the way it is and you got to understand it, you need life insurance. All right.
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Starting point is 01:01:27 Yeah. Dude, it's like the blackmail is getting so, it's losing its value like the dollar. Dude, in 1950, you could blackmail somebody for like, you know, what we're like anything. Dude, it used to. No, not even that. It's like, I heard. Rob over here doesn't change his own oil. It's like, oh. It's gay to eat pussy in the 50s and 60. That old Italians thought it was gay. I still sign off on that.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Love to hear you're thinking. No, I just, I just, I like the gay joke. Like, I like calling everything gay. It's fun. And it's also, I was talking to Dr. Heather. She just did Danny Jones. Dr. She's great.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Yeah, we love her. And we're talking, I think we're riffing about how just calling things gay is actually like a spiritual like shield where it's like blah blah blah, blah. Nah, that's gay. That's gay. No, that's gay. It's just boom, boom, boom, boom. Like, like faggot and the word retard. Like those really don't apply to what people think they apply to. Like, if you, that guy's such a faggot, you're really like he's just, it's just, he's just, He's weak. He's annoying. It's annoying.
Starting point is 01:02:44 We're weak. Right. Useless. No, what we're doing, we keep offending useless people. So they're like, well, I happen to be a faggot, you know? And it doesn't mean you're like penetrating an anus, although that is one of the definitions. It's like, no, you always bitch and you always like borrow money and then I'm the asshole for asking for it back. Like I'm like, no, you're a fat.
Starting point is 01:03:06 It's just annoying people. That's who they are. And gays call each other that. And the thing about retards, like no one really calls special needs people, the R word. If you, if someone goes, oh, look at that. You'd be like, dude. Bro, you know the story behind that. This is the, this is why I can come across is like kind of crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:22 But fundamentally, it's so funny. And as a comedian, I just love it. So moron, imbecile and idiot were all categories for eugenics, like, like real eugenics, like hardcore, like we snip your balls. You know, you take a, you take an IQ test if it's too low. were taking your testicles. And it's like the black people, tons of it. We go in Indiana to like 1970 or something.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Yeah. And so idiot was lowest IQ like zero to 25, then moron than imbecile. They started calling people retarded to be politically correct. Because retarded just means underdeveloped. So it's like, oh, that's a moron. It's like, dude, we're not talking about the darkness we just came out of. So they switched it. Same with gay.
Starting point is 01:04:07 People were calling them Sodomites because they're people who, gauge in sodomy and they're like, let's just, we're just real like happy, right? And they're like, yeah, gay. And now, but the beauty of life is intention is all that matters. So like, if you're calling someone gay because they're acting like a pussy, like, they're always going to be called whatever the word is. You just get like five years of like hiding. And then it's like, oh no, I guess the word means this other thing now.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Like anti-Semite is someone who's against Arabs, like, Semitic people is not even just Jews. It's like a, the word. is meaningless where it's like it was a Seinfeld joke if you look at the Google trends it didn't even wasn't even used until Seinfeld had that uncle yeah I'm I'm totally 100% with you it's yeah yeah it's it's it's crazy to me and then how like people compartmentalize their rage like and it's all programming they've been programmed to get mad at jokes they don't like while like just in deep-throating murder entertainment.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Like I was back totally, totally. I was state New York. And my cousin got a call from one of her friends. And they were like, hey, you know that serial killer that just got arrested? They found another body here. And my female cousin's reaction to that was, let's go look at the house.
Starting point is 01:05:34 And I was like, imagine that was a comedy club. And she found out a white guy said the N-word there. They would be like, I'm never going there. You shouted me out a few times by that. Like you'll be like, dude, Owen was right about this. Yes. Because it will. Like people literally will be more offended by a word than a rape.
Starting point is 01:05:52 100%. Because, dude, I got them to like to kind of admit it like in 2017. I just kept giving scenarios. I'm like, if a woman's being raped, can she call him an N? What if she's half black? He's from Sri Lanka. What if I kept giving these like scenarios and they're like, if the N is the problem.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Like no And I'm like, you're not worse than the rape. And they're like, dude, you've been seeing it now in these fucking court cases. If they're even real, you don't even know if the court cases are real.
Starting point is 01:06:21 But like the one court case in like Oregon or Washington where the black guy stabbed the white guy. And after he got stabbed, he got called the M word. And then that's why the jury let him off. And I was like, dog, you stab you stab me, bro.
Starting point is 01:06:37 I'm going to give you a Hitler. ask fucking speech and fucking flame throw fucking everybody if you fucking stab me. Are you fucking serious? Dude, the move is just be like, you deserve reparations and just, you know, just start saying super progressive things as you just like gut them. Be like, you know, this is generational trauma. You couldn't help yourself. Boom.
Starting point is 01:07:02 It's just crazy to me, dude. Well, yeah, they're programmed, dude. They're like, M.KL. FKL is like everyone now. They're just like, this word makes me feel this way. That's why I'm doing one of those 10 verse one debate things, those Jubilee things. And it's that slavery, my topic that I proposed is slavery is better than abortion. And it's going to get wild because I'm going to trap them every single time.
Starting point is 01:07:26 They're going to start admitting it's better to kill black people than let them work off like a 30 year term. It's like insane. And I keep calling it. That's going to be so funny, dude. Yeah. And I keep saying, I'm like, I buy them. I know what I'm doing. I literally wrote a book on wizardry.
Starting point is 01:07:40 My dad was a rhetoric professor. It's like at Hogwarts. So I keep saying stuff like, oh, man, these unwanted babies. It's like, so what do you do with these poor blacks in the city with their unwanted babies? I'm like, I'd buy them. I'd put them to work. And they're like, buy. I'm like, how much does it cost to adopt someone?
Starting point is 01:08:01 They're like, oh, $30,000. I'm like, you're buying. You're buying. It's adopt just means buy. It's also, dude. dude, like when you adopt, you almost are shopping. Dude, whites are more expensive. And someone goes, oh, because they're black.
Starting point is 01:08:17 I go, I'd rather they be white. I'm like, dude, I treat him great. We'd eat the same food. They could, like, that's the thing is this, this MK. Ultra from the series roots that it just means you just beat someone for no reason. I'm like, I would have loved to have been Thomas Jefferson slave. He'd teach me about law. He'd show me how to make wine.
Starting point is 01:08:38 I made love to his slaves. Dude, think about the current lifestyle is so much worse that they can't even comprehend. They're in a little cube drinking like grape drank, being programmed by like psychopaths. And they're like working in a little cube all day, just like doing, you know, it's like they're filled with chemicals and stuff. I'm like, dude, slaves used to live to be like a hundred. There was this, when the moon landing happened, there was this former slave named Charles Smith. he was interviewed in 1969 he was literally a hundred years old he goes ain't nobody go to the moon and he was awesome he talked about he just picked oranges he said when he was freed he kept doing it
Starting point is 01:09:20 he was like i'm in the sunshine all day long and meanwhile people dude there was this one black professor that wrote this like dissertation or something or like uh an article about how much better the diet was for like anabellum slaves and people lost their minds it's like right now people are just eating cancer and and back then it was like you're eating like organic fresh food all the time you're in the sunshine sure there was some bad slave owners and everything but like call it indentured servitude and it no longer triggers anybody that's why i want to start calling it builder buddies i'm going to rebrand so i mean you bring up some really great points it's like the amount of taxes we pay versus way back then yeah and like when when you get into the
Starting point is 01:10:07 that certain people see us as cattle. Like people, they can't come to grips with that thought. Like everything that the progressive Hollywood person has pushed into their propaganda, certain people are doing the exact opposite of that. And they're very quiet about it because they don't want to lose their jobs, right?
Starting point is 01:10:31 And it's crazy to me, dude. Like, the, like, the way Hollywood looks at me too versus how Hollywood looks at pedophilia is insane to me. Like, brush a grown up white woman's ass on set. You get excommunicated and ran out of town. Her children, silence. It's, it's fucking crazy to be. But look at, but look at like, if you're the farmer, it's like they want a lower population. It's like perfect.
Starting point is 01:10:59 It's input, output. So no one can sexualize white women. So they won't be having kids. Raping the kids, they won't be having kids. It's like, why do they want to give reparations to black people? Because they think the money will come right back. It's like a laundromat. You don't- Oh, dude, I've been talking about this.
Starting point is 01:11:15 If they do reparations, I'm going to open up a Cadillac and a gold chain fucking pro 100%. Whippin chains, whips and chains? A hundred percent. And you'll make a fortune because it goes right out. That's why they hate like, brilliant, dude. Rural whites. They really want to give reparations because they don't get them to rape that.
Starting point is 01:11:36 That's what, like, rap, right into the private prisons. It's like, the commercial is like, man, I'm going to shoot someone for no reason. Everyone's like dancing. Okay, we'll bring them right in. Imagine if you're a landlord you're making 15K a year. Okay, 35,000 a year with no expenses, every bed. And you put them to a room and it's guaranteed by the federal government. Okay, how do we get all these people arrested?
Starting point is 01:12:00 Well, we start having them single. to crimes and then that's going to be the status they seek we'll just pick them right up 30 grand a year boom boom it's like it's input output it's just we feed them this we we get this milk we get this meat and it's like not even close to it's obviously that there's no it's like well it's also that like this how they brainwash us into believing our culture is our heritage and they defend it like it's been passed down from generation to generation And they like I tell people, there's there's three three things I can say 100% are true. One, people conspire.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Yes. Two, culture's fake. It's all manufactured NASA turf and the world's ran by sorcerers. Those are, yes. Three things I could say, well, 100% are true. Okay. Your culture is fake. All of it is fake.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Like I was bringing it up on that podcast I told you about. Like they get rid of you. AID and hip hop hasn't charted in the top 40 for over a fucking year. 100% dude. It's all about just what's funded. And that's why the tower it's like the Tower of Babel. It requires so much energy and money the higher you go that they, that's why I think it's like some of it is stopped.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Like I was public enemy number one because I make real culture. It's, you know. And so and then their sciop is cult. It's short for culture. It's like total nonsense. Meanwhile, you have to inject a mystery. fluid and cut off your penis is not the cult. It's like insane. And so I make cheese and dude, culture is the whole thing. You have all these different cultures in the milk and you grow them
Starting point is 01:13:44 and that's what makes the cheese. But if you burn it like homogenization, pasteurization, you make it all the same and you kill the culture. That's like how they make milk and cheese. And the raw childs have been to the parliament in England two times total. It was to create Israel and to make raw milk illegal. That's it. That's the only things they care about. So crazy. Because that's, that's on the level of wizards is like, if we want to kill their culture, we have to kill the culture and the milk and the cheese. And you might not even understand how it works, but it does work that way, where you just start these things where you're like, if we, if we do this first, it sets like out of vibration that will start affecting all of it.
Starting point is 01:14:28 And you have to do the spell first. Yeah, it's all, it's all, um, just magic is just, uh, a manipulating energy. Exactly. Exactly. And it's just through propaganda, you manipulate how people see the world, which is all energy, dude. And it's like, you know, it's like, you ever done stand up? Of course you've done. But you know, when you're doing standup and the whole room's rocking, but there's
Starting point is 01:14:52 one person, not laughing. And that, that is what you focus on. That's where your energy goes. So, you know, there's a million things going on at every moment. And what you focus on becomes your reality. So what they do is manipulate what you, what's in front of you because most people are fucking goldfish, dude. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:13 And also, they, they don't have any power without us. It's all about perception harvesting. So it's like, yeah, you get an idea in their head, but it needs to be maintained because this is why I have a lot of hope. We naturally bend towards the good. the truth, the beautiful. We like beautiful. We like good. We like a great hang. Even if we get like cynical and I dude, you just hang with dudes you like and you're like, you just drawn to it. And it's like, so these spells, the only way they work is with something hidden. And when you see it,
Starting point is 01:15:46 it's over. It doesn't really work anymore. It's like like cis gender like that like look at all the failed spells. Like they were trying to make it so like normal people were had a slur where it's like, you're cis. Remember microaggressions? Remember that one? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It was everywhere for micro. Yeah, and that just failed.
Starting point is 01:16:04 I mean, the trans kid thing failed. A lot of things failed because unless you buy it and the only way people buy it is when it's manipulated with something else. Like you have to go to war to save your family. Like if you get that ingrained in you, like they're attacking your mother, you can get men with a lot of energy, which are more like moral men to fight your war. because if not you get junkies, you know, you get cynical, money-obsessed people are not good warriors. They're not good workers.
Starting point is 01:16:33 They're not good breeding stock. So the wizard spells are failing. What about the fact that all of these movies and TV shows are all about war right now? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. They do that all of time. There's another one coming on HBO. House of Dragons just came, this season came to an end. And then another one, which is just straight war people.
Starting point is 01:16:56 And it's weird because there's these moments in these in these shows where a fellow soldier will die and they're just keep moving. And then they're pushing about how honorable it is to die in war. Like at the end of Game of Thrones, the one guy's like, but we're still alive. You know, like he's just desperate. And then when his time comes, he's so happy that he's about to die. And it's just like all that's programming did. Such programming. And it's like that's what gets us to think stuff like, why wouldn't Iran tell us?
Starting point is 01:17:26 It's like, well, the media is owned by this corporation. Like, how would, like, what is Iran and how would it speak to us? You know, like, how would that message be translated and then put in a medium that we would have any access to? You know? And that's why I get real local. Like, I'm not a flat earther. I'm a two-heel-earther. We've been talking about that, too.
Starting point is 01:17:47 I'm like, there's two hills. I'm a two-hill-earther. because I can't know. Like, how am I supposed to prove? I'm like, the spinning globe is very fishy. And there's a lot of things about it that I don't even think are possible. Oh, flat earther? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:01 What with my rocket ship? But again, it's like the people who are just like so deep on the certain conspiracies. And then they just lose their minds on things like flat earth or there's no viruses. Oh, yeah, yeah, no viruses. Yeah, because it's all about identity. It's like, so then I, I, I, been washing my hands with this like DuPont chemical come for 20 years for no reason. It's like, yes, just own it, dude. It's not a big deal. I've been wrong about so many things. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:18:31 and then you can admit you're wrong. That is the, that's how you know you're actually a smart person. That's the only people I trust. I told that to Tucker Carlson. I'm like, I used to, you know, I didn't know what you are. You're just this famous news guy. But when you said you were wrong about Iraq and 9-11, I'm like, oh, he's like real. Because of it. I think about him having Hunter Biden on. Yeah. And like softball pitching it, but also trying to tell, tell his followers that the whole Hunter Biden thing was Israel Sciop, which infers that it's not real.
Starting point is 01:19:07 That's, that's what I got out of that. Listen, I've been, I do, I have friends of mine who can't stand Candice. I've said this. As soon as I catch her in a major lie, I'll discount her as well. Me too. Yeah, but she's crushing it. This Hunter Biden laptop thing that Tucker, I call it faking the funk on a nasty dunk,
Starting point is 01:19:26 which is off Shaquille O'Neal fucking commercial. But it's like, that to me is one of those things because if I was in a room with Hunter Biden, I go, what's up with the Finger Lakes tattoo? Because everyone says that's where people go missing in the tunnels. And what's up with all this stuff that makes it look like you've had sexual relations with your dead brother's niece? a fist fight might break out after that,
Starting point is 01:19:50 but nobody's asking them these things. Nobody asked him that? Nobody's asked them that at all. And that's weird. And people I love, who I have a lot of respect, are doing shows with this guy. Yeah, I don't like, I just don't like promoting someone.
Starting point is 01:20:06 It is a bit humiliating to be like, yeah, remember how we said this guy's like a pedophile crackhead? Well, he's cool now. It's so crazy. Yeah, no, it's weird. especially like him lecturing on Twitter. You see that in churches sometimes where it's like the guy that fucked up his life the most seems like he's the guy that is going to lecture me who like didn't fuck up his life.
Starting point is 01:20:28 They're like, man, you got to listen to me. I have no kids. I killed a guy. I was on heroin for 40 years. I'm like, no, I'm happy for you. But maybe you should listen to me, the guy that didn't do those things. Like, listen, I'm in recovery. I love a good recovery story.
Starting point is 01:20:46 No, me too. I love a good recovery story too. It's like, hey, dude, I'm not going to go just because you got sober. I'm going to forget that you're getting foot jobs from your fucking niece. Right, right, right, right. I smoke crack one time. I made a mistake. Smoke crack.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Never smoked it again. Fine. I'm not going to judge you on that. But you have this history. You were working with fucking other foreign countries and taking money from them. We're just all whitewashing that shit. I think they probably just really want to break the left, right paradigm. Because, but again, you still have to always play it straight.
Starting point is 01:21:25 I haven't, honestly, I haven't really looked into it. If the grablers faked a laptop, which is something they do do a lot, I'd have to look into it. But I, I've like talked shit to him on Twitter. He starts doing these preachy things. I'm like, who the fuck are you, Hunter Biden? Shut the fuck up. Yeah, exactly. what is your thoughts on the blatant lying that's going on from the left about or from i don't even the
Starting point is 01:21:51 Zionist i guess you call it about this tyler robinson trial like it's so dude it's so naked and blatant that i i go back and forth with a few things like one it's just end game narcissism where you have no self awareness whatsoever where you like what we talked about earlier where if if you don't like push back on people and you let them become these little tyrants. It's like Novakain. You know, they don't know, they don't feel anything to the point where they're like just riding, just going for it. And no matter what anyone says, they're right, no matter what. And I think we're seeing a lot of that, like just some really advanced narcissistic personality disorder. Or, you know, on the wizard level, it's like, you know, it's like, don't
Starting point is 01:22:38 believe your eyes and your ears. Like, we're going to hammer this until you doubt, you know, You can see this guy's cell phone and his skinny jeans. I made a video that went super viral where I actually have a 30 out six with the same scope. And I'm, I put it in my pants. I'm like, dude, I saw that. I'm like, I'm six foot eight. This is retarded. I'm wearing sweatpants.
Starting point is 01:22:58 This is like insane. He's wearing skinny jeans. He's this little guy. And you can see his phone and not. And so there's no video of him even with a gun. You know, they paved over the crime scene. They didn't. Kaved over the crime.
Starting point is 01:23:13 time scene, dude. Dude, they don't seem at all interested in any of Candace Sown's revelations. It's like one thing if you think someone's crazy, but it's like, if someone killed your wife or husband or whatever, like, wouldn't you be like, so they, they didn't look into any foreign ties? Like, why didn't we do that? You know, but why are you having fireworks at your husband's memorial? Why are you walking out the fireworks like Triple H in WWF? Oh, dude. And her forget, this is a wizard spell. Candace nailed this too. This is why I'm like, unironically a fan because she'll do, she knows some high level shit about wizard spells.
Starting point is 01:23:50 She's like, you know, forgiveness is actually, like, it's actually condemning because you can't forgive someone that didn't commit murder. So like the minute Erica Kirk said, I forgive him and I was like, oh, Jesus Christ, that's beautiful. You can't forgive someone who's innocent and he's innocent until proven guilty. So I think the big plan that I don't even know if any of these retards are involved or aware of any of it one big revelation from my life is like i'm aware of more stuff than some like central bankers and shit like a lot of the puppets don't get to
Starting point is 01:24:24 know anything they're just hollowed out so the big plan is to make it so you have to prove your own innocence you know they released a movie about that this year on amazon yeah i saw it was actually pretty good yeah no i'm not saying it's a bad movie but it's like the premise is and even if it's a you know, a good message at the end that AI sucks or whatever, it's still like, you must prove your innocence or else you're going to go to jail. And so now that's now a possibility in your head. And so now you have Tyler Robinson. It's like, it's like, okay, the 30 out six would never do that.
Starting point is 01:24:57 They're like, but is it possible? You're like, that's the whole thing. And that was Andrew Wilson's whole argument that it's possible. So the deviation from the norm is the law to them. Like, yeah, yeah, exactly. exactly they're like if it's possible then he's guilty it's like no no no that's not how reasonable doubt works and Andrew Wilson's whole thing was like and I've been feuding with that dude for years but because he came at my family he talks shit about me and I'm just good at responding dude I hate when
Starting point is 01:25:27 people go after people's family yeah dude he talked about my dad for six hours getting super chats when it was just because we had a disagreement and a debate about the Trinity I'm like all right he really goes for people personally and then he gets mad when you go after his Yeah, yeah. No, but I only go, I know stuff about his kids. I've never brought him up once. I'll go after his wife who professionally mocks prostitutes because she's in the game. It's not really a wife. It's not like, like if I went after your girlfriend or something, that would be insane. Unless she's online making money talking shit to me, you know, then it's like, you know, you can't use human shields. But again, I don't hate any of these people either. Like I don't even wish. I'm just like his whole thing was if the government that we. think like conspire does not provide evidence then it's not evidence the whole circular reasoning it's like when you say the media is corrupt they go source what they're saying is give me media source yeah it's circular reasoning it's just it's just only evidence evidence has to come from an expert we decide who the experts are you are not an expert therefore you have no evidence like there's
Starting point is 01:26:35 like this is the biggest thing and it's like brian callan did this when i had a show with him which is like the belief that universities have magical knowledge that you only get when you step on the the campus. No, it's actually slavery. It's as you get in debt, unpayable debt that you can't even default on, welcome to actual slavery. Yeah. And it's like everything's on the internet. Every book for sale on the internet that they read on campuses, I can buy, I can read. I can read off the internet.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Okay. And you're telling me, you tell me I don't have to go to SUNY Brockport and get in $150,000 of debt. Exactly. To learn about that I should hate myself. No, and then they put a square on their head
Starting point is 01:27:23 and wear a dress. A black cube. Dude, they fucking have a square on their head. I'm like, I didn't even go to my college graduation. I'm like, I'm not wearing a square.
Starting point is 01:27:33 That's funny. I didn't either. Yeah, I didn't go to mine either. No, I literally am like, this was all, if my dad wasn't a,
Starting point is 01:27:38 professor, I would never have went to college. I'm telling my kids not to go to college. I went because my parents wanted me too. Same with me, dude. I did it for them, not for me. You know, I just didn't even fucking want to go. And it's like, you get to pay off all that shit. It's like a waste of fucking time. It's like if my daughter's girl, I don't want to go college or go, just get an apartment near the college, live the college life, have some fun while you're young. And then don't get any of the debt, start your own business. Which is like kind of what you and I've done. It's like, yeah. Like, this is something I want to tell everybody.
Starting point is 01:28:11 You will find out very quickly if you're an insider or an outsider. And you can hope against hope that you can suddenly become an insider. But people have aged out and found misery waiting for the insider shit to happen. And it never fucking happened. It never happens for any of them. Yep. Because there's always another piece of cheese. It's the hedonic treadmill.
Starting point is 01:28:34 I know people worth hundreds of millions of dollars. They're like, man, I got. fucked i'm like oh so it goes nowhere like so if you're on a yacht pissed that your watch isn't the best in the world and you see someone on a pontoon boat having a blast they feel envy and hatred because they're like what the fuck yeah it's not i mean fame dude all these guys who get famous it just they seem miserable it's a negative currency it seems misery i like where dudes like us are at where it's like we get respect from people sometimes if someone recognized the like, oh, I'd probably like you.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Versus like these mega fame guys, it's like the world is a vampire at that point. They're like, take a picture, lick their face. Oh, God. I mean, it is fucking weird, dude. It's fucking weird, dude. And it just becomes this, like, people think I'm crazy. But if Netflix, I mean, I would do this one show that I'm creating on Netflix just because it's the biggest platform.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Yeah, yeah. like a special I just wouldn't want to put my comedy on there not because it's I don't like Netflix I watch Netflix shows I enjoy Netflix dude but it's like
Starting point is 01:29:47 I'm not gonna put myself to a place where they're just gonna rip my shit apart like unless you're like and that goes for both sides you see progressives put it out the right destroys them the right puts it out
Starting point is 01:30:01 the left destroys them it's like why do that like is the numbers more important than just giving your fans this kind of farewell to these jokes you've been doing so long that you're over it and you just want to kind of
Starting point is 01:30:14 like a final to me a special to me is like saying goodbye to some friends that it's time to move out of all. Yeah, totally. I'm over these jokes. I've told them long enough. I've toured through these markets
Starting point is 01:30:28 so many times they've heard it. It's time to retire and force myself to write new shit because it gets easy to sit on the old shit. Totally. So why, put it up i mean i know people call me crazy i would no no i same with me it's like i'd be fine with netflix like it's not like i have a purity thing where i'm like oh no they're the bad people it's like
Starting point is 01:30:48 i just know they're going to pay to like make it bad and i'm going to be because i've had that with commercials i've written and stuff they're like you're so funny make the magic for sierra mist or whatever and you're like okay they're like oh not this not this i'm like okay so if i do what you say I'm no longer funny and it's going to fail. So the reason you have me here, you're telling me I can't do now. I'm like that that can't that's like inverted. You know, it's like going to a mechanic and being like, you're the best mechanic ever. I'm going to pay you $100 million to just bash my car with a sledgehammer. And you're like, at the end of this, no one's going to win. You know, because even the people, even the wizards, they want influence. And influence doesn't work without
Starting point is 01:31:32 some element of truth. Nate Brigazzi seems like he's still funny in Netflix. He figured it out somehow. Yeah, I mean, like, again, I, but most of it sucks now, though. Being on Netflix is a bad thing. I think, I think you're very lucky. I just go for my particular brand of comedy. Oh, yeah, there's nothing. Like, dude, I'm not naming anyone, by the way.
Starting point is 01:31:51 I'm not naming anyone, but a lot of it sucks. Nate Brigazzi is one of the only guys on there where it's like, oh, you got to finish a joke. That's great. Yeah. Again, I like the spectrum of comedy. I like a Napagotzi and a Jeff Foxworthy and I also love Doug Stanhope. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Give me the spectrum. The best you can be. But when you have opinions, there's a lot of people that don't agree with that opinion. And therefore, because they don't agree with that opinion, they hate the joke. And it's like, well, you could not agree with the opinion, but you could see the humor and the joke.
Starting point is 01:32:25 And it's just got that, like, if you don't agree with someone, that means it's war. And I'm like, I don't even give a shit. Like, Jeremy from the quarterling is convinced a transfering, fucking killed this guy and like I don't but I like Jeremy I've liked Jeremy for a while he doesn't you know and it's like I don't agree with him
Starting point is 01:32:43 on everything but I like that he built something from nothing and I think that's a fucking honorable thing to do you know I mean is anybody perfect in how they operate no right you know it's like I feel you it's the only time I ever get a little spirally with guys like like that will not admit
Starting point is 01:33:00 you know like that it like tilting up as you leave the moon with no one on the moon like shit like that we're building seven yeah like i will seriously be like so if they say i killed someone and had a rifle in my fucking dick like you will sign off on that like that's the only time i'll start being like can i trust you as a person you know what i mean but even that who gives a fuck i can just get too spirally yeah i mean listen dude it just my whole thing is like i get it's just the internet is just twitter beef style and it's okay if that's what you're into i mean like I just like, I don't know, maybe I'm too sensitive for that shit because I know they're going to come at me and that I'm just going to, because I want to treat it like heckling and I want to start curbs stomping people.
Starting point is 01:33:44 And then I just realized that that's the currency they want. Dude, and without tone, it always fucks up. This happens to me all the times specifically because my tone, like you can always hear what I, what like my vibe. But you can take my exact words and if you write it in a tweet for some fucking reason, people always read it like I'm yelling it at. them like it's weird like people be like dude what the fuck are you coming to me i'm like bro this isn't mean like i was one of those people you were one of those people where i'm like sam it's me like i talk like this like i talk like central new york like i'm like man what the fuck is this like this is my tone it's not like hey but everyone does that and dude i've caught myself doing that
Starting point is 01:34:31 before you know i've caught myself doing that where i read a tone if i'm in a bad mood or something i'm like it's like that key and peel skit they did a whole sketch on that where one guy's sending a text and the other guy's totally reading it wrong and so twitter is like that time and i get it because there's so much conflict all the time that people are just like what do you mean by that you fucking coming to me bro i want to ask you like i like i like armenians anyway go on no we can be shady dude you'll never do that's another thing like imagine imagine being an Armenian and going there's no shady Armenians out there. That's my problem with my Jewish friends.
Starting point is 01:35:07 It's like you you've been so traumatized in your childhood that you can't even go like, yeah, dude, we got some shady fucks. I still love Glendale though. I like Glendale unironically. Dude, try to find a homeless person in Glendale. You won't do it. Strong families, Armenians. I told the same thing to Bilzerian. I'm like, I'm like, I actually usually tend to like Armenians.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Like I just do. Like it's not like a negative. We're 99 cent Jews. That's what we are. We're cheap Jews. So I want to get into this thing that I've seen you with the ortho bros. Like what is that about? Bro.
Starting point is 01:35:43 That again, this is a classic Twitter. They will ankle bite me and come at me and tweet and talk shit and say I'm a liar and I did a land scam and all this stuff. The minute I fucking respond, people are like, hey man, what's up with you and Jay Dyer? I mean, he's a good dude. I'm like, he's fucking. Jay Dyer. Again, I couldn't pick him out out of five people. And I'm not trying to say that to be a dick.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Like, I just see him talking shit. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to make fun of you for wearing a fucking Hawaiian shirt. I'm going to make fun of you because you bitch about having diarrhea all the time. Like, this is just what I'm going to do. And then they're like, oh, says the like, when I did Tucker, he literally just immediately was like, this is a mistake. Oh, and Benjamin is pure, unadulterated buffoonery or whatever. I'm like, it was about. the Trinity because I said who did Jesus pray to and they're like,
Starting point is 01:36:33 do you have an issue with Christianity? I'm not accusing. I'm asking. No. Like, dude, I figured out why they freaked out because they have all these icons. And again, I'm not trying to get involved. So Christianity says you cannot draw. I mean, originally it was you can't draw people like the no graven images. And I get it. Isn't that what they do with Muslims? Like, because if they did draw Allah, he would or Muhammad he'd be light-skinned with red hair. Well, they're not allowed to draw any, any living people. Like, that's the funniest thing about the Mohammed thing.
Starting point is 01:37:06 People are like, I'll try and draw Mohammed. I'm like, their religion says you can't draw anyone and so does Christianity, but no one gives a fuck, which is fine. I draw people. It's all good. But they're like, the priests are like, but we definitely can't draw divine figures, like God. We ban drawing God.
Starting point is 01:37:24 And then they're like, and here's a picture of Jesus Christ. And you're like, wait, what? And they're like, he's 100% man, though. That's why we can drum. And he's also God. And you're like, confused. And they're like, how dare you? Because I was raised Catholic.
Starting point is 01:37:40 They weren't that freaked out about asking who did Jesus pray to. That was my question. I'm like, how do you pray to yourself? And people are like, oh, you're trying to take down a religion? I'm like, no, I actually farm. Explain that thought to me. I find that interesting. Well, what were you?
Starting point is 01:37:55 I saw a clip where you, were you debating somebody on that one? Yeah, it was, yeah, um, oh no, that was great. I love that guy. Matt and Nephlin does. No, I talked to Chris. No, your Nifflum guys are great. What was you?
Starting point is 01:38:07 Oh, it was Jim Bob made by Jim Bob. And it was, it was moderated by Andrew Wilson. And, and again, you just saw what happened, Andrew Wilson. They lost so bad and they just said they didn't. I can't believe that they're like, they said, they said, quote unquote, Jesus did not pray. And I'm like, hmm. So Jesus didn't pray in the. garden. So when he kept saying he was praying, what was he doing? They're like, he was fulfilling a
Starting point is 01:38:30 priestly role. I'm like, so he didn't pray. They're like, well, he like prayed like as a way to fulfill I'm like, but he didn't pray to God. They're like no. And Andrew Wilson was supposed to be this like, unbiased moderate. I don't sure the kind of the this is where it all came from. Yeah. And it was not from me, dude. I promise. And and, uh, he was like, yeah, Jesus didn't pray. And so afterwards, I was like, all good and then they just started being like owen benjamin's leading people away from god and then jim bob's like i am going to uh i'm gonna we we have to take down the bear community it was like nuts we call it the jort wars because he was wearing jorts when i let him stay at my house and uh and it finally petered out it's all good and it's like dude jim bob was making like clips trying to
Starting point is 01:39:18 make me look like a pedophile because i said this is the guy stayed your house yeah yeah i let his family stay at my house he like they all talk shit they talk shit about my fit again that's weird i know it no because they felt shame like but i don't fucking care and people are like oh you mock the trinity and called god gay i go no uh milo and uh e michael jones did an intervention a trinity intervention and up being pretty funny and uh and the joke from before was two guys in a ghost where's the woman sounds a little gay I'm like, if you're offended by that, you can go fuck yourself. Like, that's retardant.
Starting point is 01:39:57 I know you're not that holy, dude. I'm like, I actually toil in the wilderness. I'm like, I fucking watch as I separate goats from sheep. Like the metaphors in the Bible, I take so seriously, I fucking do. You know, like, I close, be fruitful multiply. I don't be fruity and bulge. I'm like, my dog just got up because that's usually how I had. That's so funny.
Starting point is 01:40:19 I'm like, no, I love God. Like, I think about it all the time. But it's like, I wonder how you, like, how did Jesus pray? And that one thing started this crazy thing. And I'm like, bro, I don't know the answer. I've settled on it's mysterious. But when people- I think it is mysterious.
Starting point is 01:40:36 Yeah, yeah. Is you still a Christian? I mean, it depends on what the brand is that, is that Benny Johnson and the Ortho Bros? Or is that like how I feel about Jesus and God? Yes, that's my theology. But the word Christian now is like either Israel or, or you know just these i get what you're saying yeah like i said that a lot dude's like i i love jesus i just not into the to organize religion dude we're two or three gather in my name it's like
Starting point is 01:41:05 he fought the fucking pharisee that was saying how dare you this is special boy blah blah blah like he wasn't wearing the three thousand dollar robe and having you kiss a picture of him like interesting So anyway, that's just my, and again, I try not to even really talk about religion much. I'm like, if you think it's sacred, I'm going to try to honor that. But if you're going to fucking come at me and just like the Jews with the Holocaust, use like your religion is a liability shield, no. Like you're just not going to do that. Like if you're going to wear your Hawaiian shirt and talk shit and I'm like, I'm going to make fun of you,
Starting point is 01:41:40 you're not God. And we can make up if you want to hash it out. Like you know, dude, I'm the first to bury a fuck. fucking hatch it if someone's just not psychotic with me. It's like, let's make it bury it. Dude, let's figure it. But it's not my place. That's, no, but it's like, no, but I mean, it's like he would, he would be like, I'm not going to Bohemian Grove of Owens there. He's truly psychotic. What did he do? He does not love the Lord properly. I have not done a goddamn thing to this guy. You know, it's like if, if someone wants to actually act like that's really what you're
Starting point is 01:42:15 offended by, it's like, have I come at your family? Did I? Did I even know where the fuck he was when he started doing these videos about like, how dare you, how dare you not believe what I believe? I'm like, bro, I don't care. I'm a scumbag from Missouigo, New York. Like, I just feel like you guys would get along on so much stuff. And I'm, I'm down. I'm down.
Starting point is 01:42:38 It's like if he wants to fucking make fun of each other and we were going to do that. And then he was like, oh, how dare him? He's, oh, I'm like, okay, dude, you're just being a pussy. because at first we're going to do good yeah i get it dude i mean i get it no i get it and it's fine to like i don't hate him it's just this has been my experience where it's like where it's like all right let's let's and then he goes let's see who's funnier and we'll roast each other i'm like yes dude i used to get hit by fucking tomatoes with gypsies bro i'm like feral like i'm in and he's like oh but too far from me i'm like okay man but anyway it's all good i truly is all good like i'm
Starting point is 01:43:17 We're going to get you guys to go, I'm just a kumbaya guy. Dude, me too, bro. I'm like, I'm like totally that guy. And I know you know that about me. Like I can get autistic and I can grind away at shit that probably makes my life harder. I get it, dude.
Starting point is 01:43:32 My brother, who I love is like, yo, my brother's coming. No one bring up the fucking moon. Like, I get it. Like I can be that guy.
Starting point is 01:43:41 I've worked on it. I get it. Like I may have ruined one of Amy's mom's birthday's once, talking about the fucking moon landing like, years ago like i i literally don't i try not to do that but i i know that's a weakness but if someone just wants to be like hey man let's just not do that anymore i'm like yes like i'm fucking feel good gary man i'm like i'm like i'm like a dog i'm like oh let's play fetch it's like you know it's like oh and you there's probably a lot of trauma from what you
Starting point is 01:44:12 went through and like I used I had to work on this too like like I got so much shit when I was in high school that I had this fucking quick trigger yeah yeah and I would just cut people and then like I got into recovery and I realized I was turning into my father bro and I couldn't work with anybody right and I was fighting everybody and I go I'm going to end up like my dad and I love my dad I wouldn't I would never, you always go, if you do it all again, would you choose the same parents? 100%. So, but like, he made a lot of mistakes and I think he made it so I would see that and like not repeat that. But I do get that like that kind of quick to fucking kneecap people because you've been through a lot and there was strong, you know, like at the beginning again, I'll say this. It's like you were saying things that people weren't ready to say and or were ready to see.
Starting point is 01:45:09 and I said this to you in Bohemian Grove, it's like you never want to be the first explorer. You want to be like the sixth or seventh explorer. I feel comfortable being the first guy though. I would do that. Yeah. Like even in forest, like I like to go in when no one's fucking been there
Starting point is 01:45:26 and I start cutting and burning. Like I'm like, sometimes it's harder for me to be like the guy that finishes it. I'm like to like set the tone, like dude, I'm related to William Clark from fucking Lewis and Clark. It's like, I like being like nothing's been done here.
Starting point is 01:45:42 Let's start it. You know, but it does get a backlash. And I do have that thing. I have the same thing. Like, you know, I went through a phase where I'm like,
Starting point is 01:45:50 oh, you're going to come at me. I'm going to fucking make you regret it. So you don't do it again. And it's like, it was just a fear response. It was just like, I don't want you to,
Starting point is 01:45:59 I don't want you to keep hitting me. Yeah. It's natural. And you kind of get that. And then you got to be like, okay, breathe. But what I'm saying is like,
Starting point is 01:46:06 you know, it's like, going into force, you're probably great that but I'm talking like cultural shit like when you're the first one to say something that's very taboo everybody comes at you bro but I'm like a hard end myself I have flow state like I don't think my pronouns are real nigga dude
Starting point is 01:46:23 you know for real dude like I actually relate to that I'm like but that would require planning like I'm just in the zone I'm like a musician I'm like but I was feeling that this new shit and it's like yeah but you gotta wait man in six months that's when the gays come in i'm like oh i can't wait it's like so i i have to take like i'm no victim everything that happened to me was because i had the thrill of that feeling just like a lot of bees end up in jail i get it so like no one owes me anything like i know that when you say shit like pandas are fake people are like what the fuck yeah i'm like yeah panda bears are
Starting point is 01:47:01 literally like there's there's zero chance they were ever in the wild and then you know two years later everybody's talking about fucking pandas being fake and i'm like now i want to know what i used to do that sucked that i i've changed is i used to want credit i'd be like well who fucking said it first i'm like well i didn't even say it first and who do i want credit from and don't i just want people to know stuff yeah like i just want people to be it's like the can of sellans thing i wanted andrew wilson to be crushed she did a better job than i would have done so i'm like happy i'm like happy that like people got to see that and it's like i'm happy for anybody like i don't own any ideas like i used to be a little you know a little like like a dragon with like you know when chappelle did that
Starting point is 01:47:46 trans joke that i did before and suffered for it and all this stuff but i'm like yeah but don't i want people to see that like that was the whole point it's not about me it's like it's also that because that happened to me too i'm not saying he took it for me or i took it from him but we no you're ahead of a lot of people too man but it's like i the way the way I saw it because he did it on Saturday Night Live. We had a bit about the Orlando gay bar shooter and he did it on Saturday Night Live. And the thing I had to say is I wrote a Dave Chappelle level joke, you know, at that point. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:48:17 That's great, man. No, that's how I got too, man. I'm just like, dude, it's all good. Like, it's almost like Field of Dreams when that one ghost is like, is that why you did this for you? You know? Where it's like, no, I was the guy that brought the base thing that helped the people. the end of the day oh and like you won like i feel i feel that you want you won and kind of like me to a lesser extent of of of how far you went with moving and like just totally
Starting point is 01:48:47 changing your life i would love to move but the way you change your life and all that shit in regards of whatever happens in the world society crumbled oh my whole area just burned to the ground so like it's not i'm not in a norman rockwell painting don't get me wrong i'm crushing but like what do you mean it burnt dude spokane just burned like oh my god 15 000 acres like just gone it was just like dude we have we had smoke here for a month it's just like apocalyptic as shit and we have to always be alert for fire dude and fire is like one of the craziest things i i'd take fucking drunk mexicans over fire i mean it's uh it's crazy because when we were young they didn't call climate change they called it arson right right right right i
Starting point is 01:49:32 It's crazy how the words change. But at every single climate change event, there's an arsonist every fucking time. Just doing some shady fucking, you know, Bolshevik bullshit. Like just try. And that's how they take over. They burn it down. And then they, yeah,
Starting point is 01:49:49 there's always. Here, let's buy for pennies on the dollar. There's always Jay Lightning happening. You just look at the insurance policy. Yeah. I really want to call the episode this. There's a. Oh, dude, insurance.
Starting point is 01:50:01 I want to talk about insurance companies are at that level of like actually running shit where it's like insurance is bigger than all the governments, all of it. And if you just look at where the policies are and who owes what and all that, you'll see places burn based on that shit. Yeah, it's crazy. Oh, and one more time.
Starting point is 01:50:19 You got a website still? What do you do? Yeah, Owenbenjurban.com and I have like thousands of, um, of episodes of my podcast. You put out something a day. It seems like every day. Yeah. Mentally, yeah, constantly putting out content yeah dude i'm i'm part german man i if i don't work like i feel weird you know that's why
Starting point is 01:50:38 when we said work will set you free we're trying to help and we didn't know that they didn't have sweat glands anyway uh ladle dot tv is where all and it's nine dollars and eleven cents a month are you back on youtube no i tried a while ago and i just i mean i i i'm allowed on anyone's show i might be allowed back but I just grew to grow my own thing. I'm like I'm just done like wishing and hoping and wondering so um I'm on Twitter you know I'm on uh Instagram but like yeah ladle. TV is nine dollars and 11 cents a month and it uh I have my own infrastructure so I can't like it doesn't shut down and I just built all the bad like so I go to Montreal and I bomb dude and like I just get excommunicated right out the gate and it was.
Starting point is 01:51:28 was the best thing that ever happened to me because I had to build a system outside the yes dude that's how the Jews actually got power they had kicked out they're like we have to build our own financial system now we're in it yeah and now we're by the way I don't believe that story about the Rothschilds either he was so smart no he did no dude it's like if you take look at all these fucking billionaires they're Epstein was so smart that's why he got to work at Bear Stearns he's just super smart when he's like, when he's like,
Starting point is 01:52:00 I got a calculator. Yeah. Exactly. I got a calculator and egg size dick. And I fucking came up with this system. No, it's like Jeff Bezos was hand-selected to do what he's doing right now. Same with Gates.
Starting point is 01:52:14 Yeah. It's like, he started in the garage. It just so happens. His dad's a world eugenicist and his mom runs like United Way. But it was in a garage. Yeah. And the same thing with the Saudis.
Starting point is 01:52:26 Like the Saudi. Empire, the House of Saab was started by a British fucking spy. And like, they just positioned these people, which is the greatest gig of all time, by the way. You go, who had the greatest gig ever? It's the guy that got put in charge of the House of Saad and just became a trillionaire. And now his kids do whatever the fuck they want. They buy every fucking sports team. That's the greatest gig ever getting that.
Starting point is 01:52:55 Just so hot, man. I'd miss water. I love where I would. They can go anywhere they want. They go, oh, dude, I want to go to San Diego for the... And then they fly somewhere and they bring all the furniture. They just spend money. They spend money.
Starting point is 01:53:07 Like, they'll literally take all the furniture out of the four seasons and replace it with their own fucking furniture. That's hilarious. He got a gig to basically... Because the British made all the fucking borders. That's where the wizards fucking are, man. It's city of London. Dude, it's not Jews, man.
Starting point is 01:53:23 These people just like, oh... Well, Jews is a brand. It's like House Assad. It's a fucking... It's all sigils and shit. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, the Holocaust is a spell for Jews.
Starting point is 01:53:33 It's so that they get so afraid they'd never assimilate. Yes. Yeah. So it's like, oh, I can't be cool to my neighbor because he's going to turn me into a lamp. What a great way to make religious extremists create a country and have everybody on welfare. And the only thing they got to do to get to welfare is to read these insane books that say insane shit. Hey, you're the greatest and you're the best. and everyone else's cattle.
Starting point is 01:53:58 I mean, imagine that was your gig, dude. That's why it's all about gratitude and forgiveness, man, and wise man once told me that this, this, this world, the wise man is you, that this, I remember he texted me that once. You're like, this is like a,
Starting point is 01:54:11 like a house of mirror mad house. It's a haunted house. It's a haunted house lush harvesting machine. So if you're just grateful, like, oh, no way. A ghost popped out. Hey, Mr. Ghost, how you doing? Give it away, dude.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Man, I wouldn't change who my father was. He had problems. Like, dude, that's the only. that's the only way to not get sucked dry, man. Yeah, is to learn from your mistakes and change them. It's like better to get, like, I've always said this. You will have turbulence in your life. It's either going to be early or it's going to be late.
Starting point is 01:54:41 But it's going to happen. Yeah, and it's going to help you grow. And how you deal with that determines how far you go. And it's like, I got it early with the, like, getting excommunicate, drug problems, all that shit, and then getting out my own way and now thriving. like these guys I see them all getting it later in life and it's like when do you want to get it when you're at the top it's like I said this before about Andrew Wilson it's like I've done business with it I still do business with Andrew Wilson but it's like that rise was so fast dude you didn't you didn't realize the blessings of that you start yeah you didn't build the roots you know I had a lot of problems early in life and then late 30s yeah mid 30s yeah like I had a good run run in Hollywood in my 20s. You had a great run.
Starting point is 01:55:29 But I had like, you know, my childhood was fucking dark. You know, there was also some light shit too, but it was like, I learned, you know, I developed some, uh, some deep roots early, early. And then that helped me way later when the fucking, the winds came back. Yeah. I mean, uh, the appreciation of what you, you know, you got these young comics. They get big on Instagram because Instagram wants retards to flourish. so you know you do you do monkeys throwing shit against the wall and you're getting a million views
Starting point is 01:56:00 and suddenly you're selling a bunch of tickets and that happens very quickly you're not going to appreciate what that means like that like guys like us were in cleveland doing wednesday nights cleveland improv it's like i'm grateful that we had to go through all that i did tuesdays in elgar in calgary dude i did a tuesday to sunday like that's how i'm down i feel you you know doing Kansas City with those dudes where he's just up at four in the morning. It's like, you know, you got to do all the radio and then you go, everyone's shit-faced, you know, you, like, you think you got a bonus, but no one ever gives you one. But you got to struggle up there. Like, dude, a lot of those shows, like they weren't even your fans. They were given a free ticket and
Starting point is 01:56:41 you have to fucking hold their attention and win. And it's like, dude, I love that we have that experience. It makes this like no more about the world. And appreciate when you have it. Exactly. And now I'm just all about health and my family's health and good food, good friendships, you know? Like this conversation was fucking great, man. I loved it. Well, it was fun. I mean, like, I'm generally happy when I see you on these big shows. I mean, like, it's good to see where you, what you went through and then to finally get your flowers for like the things you said that got you excommunicated. And it's like, it's got to be crazy to see that people now are. flourishing off of saying the same shit you were saying a long time ago. But like that that's what it is, man. It's like you're, you know,
Starting point is 01:57:29 when you're an outlaw, you create the system and then the rich kids come in and co-opt it. Right, right. And I got to focus on like, but I got to have the adventure. I got to have that roller coaster. And like, you know,
Starting point is 01:57:42 the house is sod, I guarantee a lot of those guys are like, so what do we do next? Yes. We get more blowjobs. I got a bigger couch. It's like, we bang more prostitutes.
Starting point is 01:57:54 Yeah. Shutting on chicks. Yeah, that's how you end up shit. You're just chasing the next high. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why inner peace is good, man. I see that you've done a good job with that. I mean that.
Starting point is 01:58:07 He's got let go, dude. Surrender to it. Surrender to it, bro. You're the sky. I say this all the time in recovery. You're the sky. Your emotions are the weather. It will pass.
Starting point is 01:58:16 My bike's never coming back. Your bike is, that guy, that bike has been hawked. Yep, 1991. I just wanted people to acknowledge, acknowledge what happened. Yeah, it's just, we're in the upside down world right now. So like Kanye said, dude, in a world of lies, the truth seems crazy. Yeah, yeah, but it's still super powerful, though. And they all want it.
Starting point is 01:58:38 It's undeniable. Yeah, yeah, I feel bad for these fucking people. Like, dude, Bill Gates can never say pandas are fake or someone ate Charlie Kirk. Like, he has to say exactly what he has to say. 100%. And that's another reason why, like, I would love to have this project I'm working on and go on Netflix. That would be a great goal and great achievement.
Starting point is 01:58:57 But like the stand up, dude, like the freedom of being like the king of the underground is like you can say the most truth, which is dangerous. The truth is dangerous right now. You can say it and move on with your life. When you get to these really high levels, everything is. And it's more dangerous up there. Like I don't even feel that threat. now. Charlie Kirk, when you got, when the mob, when the mafia of the world is given you an MK bitch and 50 mil and you have to deliver all the college kids like, you can't fuck up.
Starting point is 01:59:31 Me, you know, I annoy people, but no one's like, we have to kill the fucking panda guy that fought with Jay Dyer. Like, no one gives a fuck. Yeah. You know, it's, it's freedom, dude. Freedom is so freedom. And move as you want. Yeah. And that's why like, when, when you get their money, it comes with a big thing. Like, you can't, you can't, you can't go off. reservation bro no and it's kind of fair it's like that's why when i had my reputation burned i'm like yeah i mean you guys made it you know like they put me on comedy central they put me on all this shit they're like you can't have that sigil that we created in your name like a spell and talk shit about our noses and our little dicks you know and i'm like i get it man yeah i think the swedish
Starting point is 02:00:16 should have chosen people to be honest with you did a lot dude and there's a lot of power in Sweden. That's where Stockholm is. That's Switzerland's where all the power is, dude. And like, everyone's looking at Israel. You're like, dude, everything's in Switzerland. Dude, Israel's a dump. Israel's a spell. They're going to get, they're going to, listen,
Starting point is 02:00:34 Israel's going to eat the sins. And they're just going to get rid of it. In Babylon, the Jews were the slaves. Then they're just going to go to Argentina. 100%. Dude, I just going to give us a final thing. I know we're going along, but like,
Starting point is 02:00:49 I think all the gold's in Antarctica. I, dude, I just, we got an argument today on one of our other shows, a financial show. And it's like, there's no gold in Fort Knox. That's why there's no gold in Europe. And show you it. Dude, Rachau Island, they got that shit like in 1815. They used to say it was there because no one could make the trek to check. Because every revolution, they're just like, go steal the gold back from the fucking
Starting point is 02:01:17 grablers. And they, they got so sick. it i think that that's why there's an arctic treaty no one's allowed to go to antarctica it's like i think that's where they keep a lot of shit why can switzerland be neutral why are they allowed to be neutral why can't iraq be neutral why can't kuwait be neutral why can't palestine be neutral right why is switzerland like yeah we're not why can't poland be like we're neutral they're like because we have great chocolate yeah yeah you don't want to bomb our factories you won't get our chocolate anymore Yeah, because everyone else can't be neutral
Starting point is 02:01:52 Because they want to bomb them and take their shit It's all about hiding the Destroying the old world and blood sacrifice That's what wars are all about 100% oil Oh my god Dude, dude, it's everywhere's got oil Everywhere, dude and they keep
Starting point is 02:02:08 It just refills Yeah, 100% There's no running oil, that's what they told us We're gonna run out oil at some point Sure we are Dude scarcity is the biggest fucking lie Biggest lie There's enough for everybody.
Starting point is 02:02:21 If anyone's starving, it's because fucking wizards and sorcerers fucking stop food coming from you. And that's why this fucking straight of harm moves and stopping the oil. It's about food supply. It's about they're going to try to get everybody so they don't have any food. And then this is the thing, dude. And I said this before. And I would love for you to hear it. It's like they keep saying they want to get rid of cops and they want to get rid of fucking prisons.
Starting point is 02:02:48 I go, do you guys understand what you're asking for? You're asking to get slaughtered. Because the silent majority, the only thing that keeps them from going nuts on all you people, from a horde of the silent majority fucking descending on Antifa, descending on BLM is the thought of they go to jail and their kids grow up without a parent. That's what stops them from acting. And they're just like, let's just be cool and raise our kids. You take that fucking, that punishment away and you tell a bunch of people that they won't go to jail if they just murk everybody.
Starting point is 02:03:29 You're calling for chaos, dude. They want chaos. They want scarcity and chaos for sure. Yeah, that's what I keep telling everyone to have a garden. I'm like, one tomato has 100 seeds in it for 100 tomato plants because they want everyone dependent on food and then to pull it back to get. compliance. Dude, it's farming cows. I have the grain bucket. If my cows could get their own grain, they wouldn't let me milk them. Yeah, and it's also like, they think they can, like the, how many, someone said like 3,000 people around the world. There's a billion people. Like, you can put up all
Starting point is 02:04:06 the flock cameras you want. At some point, the horde's going to come. Yeah, that's why they need consent and dependence, yeah. Well, that's why they, they haven't put boots on the ground. I mean, they don't have boots. You want. Well, it's also that, They can't, like, every, like, 9-11 was getting us to consent to sending us to fucking murder brown people in the Middle East. Yeah. They can't get the consent anymore. Exactly. I do it.
Starting point is 02:04:28 And people are like, they're going to make everything a prison. I'm like, well, you need to have a free world for the prison guards to live in and buy shit. Where do they buy shit from? The grocer. How are they in prison? Like, the, it's all spells. It's like Wizard of Oz at the end. They're like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:04:46 Ah. And then they're getting a hot air balloon of inflation. and just float out. And they head on down the road to the next kingdom, but there isn't another one this time. So this is why it's a fun time. It's like it's high-stakes shit. It's like they can't go like Princess Bride.
Starting point is 02:05:02 You know, it's like, we're just poor law circus folk. Will you help us? That doesn't happen now because the brand fucking popped. Yep. The brand is popped. And when the brand is popped, they disregard. That's why Israel's fucked. It's like it's so fucked.
Starting point is 02:05:17 Yeah. That's a dead grand. I'm just going to erase it, turning it into Babylon, which has always been the, the old gods want to come out and play. I've been saying that for fucking years. They're tired of sitting in the background. They want to be worship. They want sacrifice.
Starting point is 02:05:30 In regards to what you think of Jesus, and there's people like, Jesus didn't exist. I don't believe that at all. He, no, Jesus changed the whole thing. He said, you don't have to eat flesh and drink blood, bread and wine. Like, he showed everyone that they didn't have to be evil anymore. And it's so powerful that I don't. don't like getting lost in theological debates because it's so simple and beautiful, you know, and it's like, so simple, dude.
Starting point is 02:05:54 And it's like, there's just so many things where you're like, that doesn't make sense to me. Sounds like an apparatus of control. Exactly. Keep it down simple. Love thy neighbor. Give it away. Help others. And, you know, the commandments, if you're, they're just high vibrational behavior.
Starting point is 02:06:13 Totally. Don't look your buddy's wife. Don't murder. Don't lie. Like, these are basically. basic high vibrational fucking actions. You do that, your life is much better. It's all high vibration versus low vibration.
Starting point is 02:06:25 Yeah, that's what forgiveness is so important, because shame is a weapon of Babylon. So it's like Jesus showed that you could say, I made a mistake, but you have to admit it. You have to like take the step to say, you know, I did that and it was wrong and I want to be better.
Starting point is 02:06:40 That's like good magic. That's like the beauty. Because if you don't have that. Magic, people always think there's only black men. I go, I think there's high vibration. actions and that leads high vibrational energy and that's manipulation of energy which is why I think magic is yeah it's like it's like alchemy you know it's like just taking one thing and
Starting point is 02:07:00 I guess like good magic would be magic without anything hidden or a trick where it's just like if you do this it's good and the energy goes up but it's since we're in an infinite energy system it's not a manipulate no one's losing out because you're crushing I agree dude Great way then to show. Owen. I love it. One more time. Tell them where they like.
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Starting point is 02:07:52 Okay, Bigfoot exists. Bigfoot exists. I believe that it could be anywhere from interdimensional creature past the ice wall. I'm going to go with A. We're in agreement. I'm in an A too.
Starting point is 02:08:10 There's just been too many encounters with something like Bigfoot as we use the known fake image of him. But there's just been too many encounters for it not. Yeah, I believe in cryptids 100%. I mean, I have tweaker ghosts at my house that jacked stuff and try to hawk it on the other side. They try to sell my shit. Like, I'll find my nose hair trimmer in the, uh, in the backyard. I'm like, why is my nose hair trimmer in the backyard? That's crazy. You don't think your daughters, maybe just picking it up and dropping
Starting point is 02:08:40 it? No, it's tweaker ghost, buddy. That's crazy. Okay, the next one is Paul is dead. Paul McCartney died and he was replaced by Brian Epstein and other people in the Beatles. And the person we now know is Paul McCartney is an imposter, fall, as some people call him, that replaced Paul McCartney in the 60s. Because this is your baby. I'll go first. I'm going to put it at a C. I think it's possible.
Starting point is 02:09:08 Okay. I'll tell you why I don't. I put it this as an Fitt is Flat Earth or F. What are the odds that there were two people? people who looked just like Paul McCartney that were the most talented musicians in history in pop music. I mean, yeah, it's definitely you're on to something. I think it's possible.
Starting point is 02:09:31 It may be. And then it's also one of the things people misunderstand is that Paul McCartney famously had a moped accident. You can go see the result of this in the rain video. You can see Paul McCartney. Go watch the video for rain. His tooth is a little bit crooked. and he's got a fat lip.
Starting point is 02:09:47 That changed his face a little bit. He got a really gnarly scar on his lip. And that's one of the things people point to to say that he was swapped out. So I did C, right? And you did F. So we're going to go D. We'll go D on that one. The next one is the Denver Airport is an underground Illuminati end of days base,
Starting point is 02:10:09 kind of like a safe harbor place for elites when the shit goes down at the Denver airport what do you think about that because if you don't know i'm going to go a because the elites have bought a bunch of property around it it's 50 miles from denver uh they dug up way too much way too much dirt for that stuff i believe there's tunnels that go from one coast to the other and so uh and then now they're running with the conspiracy conspiracy conspiracy thing i i think it's an a okay Yeah, when I, I, the imagery in there, if you haven't seen it, go look it up. There's a bunch of Masonic imagery and like a cult paint like murals and stuff. It's bizarre. It took them years to build it like way longer than it should have. There was a bunch of tunneling equipment that was seen around the, around the airport. I put this one as a B, which means we're going to have to flip a coin. Call it, Sam. What do you call it? I got a digital coin flipper right here. So I called it an A, you called it a B. We got to flip a coin on.
Starting point is 02:11:19 And if you win the coin toss, it goes into a car. So it would be B.5, which is higher than B, so it's closer to A. We're just flipping a coin. I want you to call a coin in the air. Okay. Winns the coin toss. I have it right here. I'm going to go ahead.
Starting point is 02:11:33 Okay, here we go. I'm flipping it. And it's heads. You win. So that'll go into A. There we go. All right. So Denver Airport going into A.
Starting point is 02:11:42 The next one is that aliens, as we know them, are demons, spiritual entities, something similar in nature to demons. What we know is aliens are actually spiritual entities. I'm going to go A on this. I think it's 100% angels and demons. I'm an angels and demons guy. Alster Crowley even called it, and he's the wickedest man. He said they would be known as another name, which would be aliens. I still don't believe we traveled space.
Starting point is 02:12:15 So I think space is faking gay. So I'm going to go, I would almost go S at this point, but again, I'm going to go A. Okay. Well, I'll tell you, I think that some of them are aliens,
Starting point is 02:12:30 physical beings from different places, and some of them are spiritual entities. So I would kind of put that as a C. I think we'll slot it into B. But yeah, I think they both exist. And people are concerned. inflating them oftentimes. Like the ones that people say look like, uh, kind of like Nordics,
Starting point is 02:12:48 the Nordic ones. I think those are just aliens that or maybe people from the future or something, but definitely physical beings. Um, okay, the next one is Hitler survived the war and lived out his life. He died at peace elsewhere in the world. Doesn't matter where. Just that he survived the war and lived to an older age. Uh, it didn't die as we were told. Uh, I mean, I'm almost an ass on this. Really? Yeah, I'm almost an S, but I'll lean towards an A, but I'm pretty much an S. So I'm going to go with S. I think that's 100% true.
Starting point is 02:13:22 Okay. All right. See, I'm going to put this at C. I just think there's too much. There are too many diaries and contemporary accounts of his behavior in the bunker, his declining health, his, you know, I mean, there's accounts from his servants, from the handmaiden lady, like the assistant that was there, all saying that he, was just ripping his hair out by the end and ready to end it all. We know that Gerbils,
Starting point is 02:13:48 the truest of all true believers, wouldn't have off, I think wouldn't have offed himself and his whole family if he thought that Hitler was going to live on. So I really find this one to be a D. So you put a S, which means it goes into the B tier. Yeah, I just don't believe Hitler's. I think anybody else, you could tell me that Martin Borman survived. I totally believe that, because we know he attempted to escape and that he had a plane ready but not Hitler, not Hitler, man. Okay. The next one is Skinwalker Ranch.
Starting point is 02:14:20 It is the site of genuinely confounding spiritual, physical entities. What we hear about Skinwalker Ranch from the people, you know, the conspiracy people is true. What do you say on that one? I'm going to go ass. Okay, okay. I was going to say. Ask because my friend Ryan lives there, near there.
Starting point is 02:14:42 And I believe Ryan and Ryan Burns and I think he's seen it. I think he's experienced it. I'm going S. Okay. I put this one in the A tier because I'm saying like there's a 10% chance that it's some kind of government sciop kind of thing. You know, they're hiding something else there. The government is that they just don't want people coming in.
Starting point is 02:15:03 So they put up, you know, they pass around these myths about the place. So that means we have to flip a coin to see who's going to get it. Call it in the air, Sam. Tails. It is Tails. All right. That one's going to go in the S tier. You keep winning.
Starting point is 02:15:18 Look at you. Psychic Sam. The next one is Patriots in Control. Q and on was someone in the government. Q&ON is exactly what it was purported to be. Someone in the government who loved this country and wanting to get some information out to people and let them know that things are going to work out and was telling the truth as far as they knew it. Q and on. What do you say? Well, I'm going to go fittest flat earther because it was
Starting point is 02:15:45 Operation Trust. Yeah. But it was telling us the truth. It's just not in the way that you describe it. Well, some of it was true. Some of it was, most of it was stuff we already knew that was already out there. And it was just. But that doesn't mean it's not the truth. No, no. Yeah. Yeah. But then a lot of, I think it woke up a lot of people. Okay. Yeah, I think we agree on this one. Fit is Flat Arthur F for it being Patriots in control. Lock her up. All that stuff. Locker up was not true. That was a lie. They were never going to do that. So, yeah, we're at a point of agreement there, finally. The next one is JFK, that incident was, as we keep hearing more and more now, was fake. JFK did not die on that day, but survived.
Starting point is 02:16:28 Two JFK is the other one. JFK survived that day in Dallas and went on to live his life. I don't know. And become Jimmy Carter. That became Jimmy Carter, as AI suggests, when. Someone asked AI to make an older looking JFK and it looked just like Jimmy Carter. What would you say to that one? You know, here's the thing. They could say he faked his assassination, but no one says RFK senior faked his assassination. So why would they take out one brother or not the other?
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