Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #1019: The Fake Left/Right Paradigm With Hannum Machiavelli

Episode Date: September 9, 2026

On the latest episode of Tin Foil Hat, Sam sits down with special guest Hannum Machiavelli to discuss his new book, Machiavelli Nation, and dive into the rise of socialism in America, especially in Mi...chigan. They break down the gun control debate and what most people get wrong about guns, including the controversies surrounding Charlie Kirk, JFK, and Kurt Cobain. They also expose the fake left-right paradigm and explore how common people can break through the division, unite, and take their power back.   Please check out Hannum Machievelli's new book "Machiavelli Nation": https://bit.ly/4dpsOgM   Sam Tripoli's 5th Comedy Special drops Sept 1st on Gas Digital's Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@GaSDigitalNetwork Word War Debate 2 Is Sept 12th live in Nashville: https://wordwardebate.com Please check out Sam Tripoli's 6th Crowd Work Special "Women Can't Peg" Live From Batavia: https://bit.ly/3TZBzHT Please subscribe to the new Tin Foil Hat youtube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/@TinFoilHatYoutube Grab your copy of the 2nd issue of the Chaos Twins now and join the Army Of Chaos: https://bit.ly/415fDfY Check out Sam "DoomScrollin with Sam Tripoli and Midnight Mike" Every Tuesday At 4pm pst on Youtube, X Twitter, Rumble and Rokfin! Join the WolfPack at Wise Wolf Gold and Silver and start hedging your financial position by investing in precious metals now! Go to https://www.samtripoli.gold/ and use the promo code "TinFoil" and we thank Tony for supporting our show. Grab Tickets To Sam Tripoli's Live Shows At SamTripoli.com: Nashvillie: Word War Debate 9/12 Lawerence, KS: 9/17-9/19 Tulsa, OK: 10/9-10/10 Dallsa, Tx: Nov 7th (TrutherCon) Austin, TX: Dec 11th-13th Witcha, KS: Dec 18th-19th Please check out Sam Tripoli's internet: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Sam Tripoli's Stand Up Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@SamTripoliComedy Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy/%20P Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Tinfoil hat. Oh, what the fuck are you guys people talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to tinfoil half. We go deep, home boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge.
Starting point is 00:00:27 There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. Dude, you just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind-blown? All right, guys, and welcome to Tim Foll Hat live from the Wise Wolf Golden Silver Studios. That's right.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Just go to Samtribly. Dot Gold. Use the promo code Timfoil and you two can get in on the press mail's game for as little as $50 a month. sent right to your house. Very excited to have this guest on. I love, I read over the notes, very excited to talk about what you want to talk about because I think it's super important right now. Very excited.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Please welcome. Hanam, how are you? I'm great, Sam. Thanks for having me on. How are you? Very blessed to have you on. I think, you know, I think your topic that you want to talk about is very important right now. And, you know, I had a discussion.
Starting point is 00:01:32 last night with a buddy of mine about how I'm just out on the whole voting process. And because at the end of the day, it's just, I think all the money just goes into keeping you into two-party paradigm. And they already know everybody's going to work. But besides that, I'm very excited to get into your thing. Before we begin, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you? And I know you have a book coming out. So tell us a little bit about that as well. Absolutely. At first, before I do, I just want to say, I know it's old news for you guys, but that hitting a thousand episodes, I mean, that is an outstanding accomplishment. Thank you, dude.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Just watching the evolution of the show since the early days, you've really built something to be proud of, and it's an amazing thing, an amazing accomplishment. Congrats. That means a lot to me. Thank you. That's very kind of you. That does mean a lot to me. So thank you very much for that.
Starting point is 00:02:28 That's very cool. Thank you. And I also want to add to that, you often will say this kind of tongue and cheek, but you really are doing the Lord's work because there's no way that this global banking cabal and elites behind the pulling the strings could do what they do without secrecy. And it's people like you guys and all the other podcasts out there, Grimerica and Greg Carlewood, and everyone else, you know, you're making it harder for them to do what they do. And that's how we win is with people like you.
Starting point is 00:03:09 As far as me, I am an author, but before that, I am what's called a multi-passionate, multi-potentialite personality. This is a kind of like a brain that works like Da Vinci's brain. I'm not saying like I'm another DaVinci. but there's millions of us out there. We are able to take on new things very quickly and gain competency very quickly and different things have many different interests and fascinations, but we don't specialize well.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And that's why society doesn't value us. That's why you'll find multipotentialite, multi- passionate people, you know, scraping the gum off of desks as a high school janitor or standing behind a counter somewhere. It's because we're not valued, but we need to make that paycheck and we pursue our interests on our own time. I think a lot of conspiracy theories fit in that role as well. We are able to connect dots and see patterns where most people, haven't even observed the phenomenon to begin with. I'm 62 now.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I wrote this book. You look great. Thanks. So do you. It took me my whole life to be able to, you know, focus and stay with a thing. It's a 400-page book. It took five years to make. And I want to, you know, obviously talk about that some.
Starting point is 00:04:54 But the important thing is the world is changing. And this is a book for our times. What was the name of your book one more time? Sorry about that. The book is called Machiavelli Nation. And it's not about Machiavelli. It's kind of a play on words from a throwaway line in the book. I wanted something that was going to be gripping and sort of tell the story in a few words.
Starting point is 00:05:24 And also be difficult to hide in a search out. So if you search Machiavelli Nation, the book is what comes up. But it's about a, what I like to do is I tell people it's about a normie who gets red pill. And so people, that'll tell me where they are. And if they say, I don't know what that means. I'll tell them, well, you really need this book. That's great. That's great. You know, you brought up connecting the dots.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I think that's a very important thing. Obviously, do you guys feel, and this is for the whole group, do you guys feel like the Candace Owens, Andrew Wilson debate, somewhat took the steam out of the whole Charlie Kirk debate? Like, it was almost like the finale, the Super Bowl of that discussion, and it just doesn't seem like it's as big a discussion now as it was before that. kind of crescendo to this big moment. And then once that's done, you see popping here, there,
Starting point is 00:06:36 but it's not the focus anymore. Wait for the trial. Wait for the trial. Yeah, that's probably when it will pick up again. But so this story just came out that there was this email about the, how the FBI helped get all the bricks to all these BLM riots. and they basically pretended to be a construction company that said they could help with them
Starting point is 00:07:04 and whatever needs they have. So they just showed up with some. And like people have been talking about this forever and now it just comes out. And the reason I bring that up is because you talk about connecting the dots. And I also say it's like we're trying to solve crimes in the dark. And that's why it's really hard to debate with a normie
Starting point is 00:07:24 because they always want sources and their sources are mainstream sources. So it's very hard to convince them of everything when you're just like, just try. Like I've seen this pattern before. Trust me, this is the pattern that they do. And they're like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. So I think it's a very interesting point you brought up.
Starting point is 00:07:43 So where would you like to begin? Because I've seen some of your talking points and I'm really into them. Well, one thing is that's part of, actually it's one of the biggest reasons I wrote the book is I was having, such a difficult time with people my age, talking about things in the world.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Like, for example, I mean, not to call this person out, but I mentioned to someone that I listened to Joe Rogan podcast, like, you know, a few years back, and it was way after COVID. He goes, oh, Joe Rogan, is he still pushing Ivermectin? And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:08:23 isn't it crazy? That's a crazy thing, dude. It's like, and it just goes to show you how powerful our algorithms are. Yeah, and how powerful, like, the whole idea of mainstream media as the voice of God. Like, that's what Joe Rogan is. He's this crazy guy that pushes Ivermectin, you know. Yeah, and so anyway, that's one of the main reasons I wrote the book is I try to have these conversations with people. and they would not only not be interested in it,
Starting point is 00:09:01 but just be like completely against the idea that there's anything, that if there was something to be known, we would have all heard about it by now because it would be on the front page of the New York Times and MSNBC would be running a two-hour special on it. You know, and where do you start with these people? So I wanted to, you know, gently give. them something that would be fun to read that they could get into and help to make sense of
Starting point is 00:09:35 the world. Like, how do you go from a normie and then hear from the Epstein files that, oh, your senators and congressmen are, you know, eating children and torturing young women and disposing of their body? Like, how do you come from that and then go, yeah, let's watch the Super Bowl and go vote in the election and oh man i really like the democrats this year you know no it's it kind of gets into this whole thing about like when you hear that they say like 80% of people are incapable of questioning authority like they're just incapable of it they don't have the the wiring to be able to step out like that
Starting point is 00:10:17 and how just conformity is so almost universal. And it gets, you know, I just did this podcast at the joke world festival. And this guy just, and they were great. This isn't anti their podcast in any way. They were great. And he's just incapable of questioning the mainstream media. And when we drilled down on it, it's just like, he doesn't want to believe that he brought his family into his kids into a chaotic world.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And it's better to believe in fantasies than actually try to take a look at what's happening. And I've been bringing this up a lot lately. It's about how just everybody's like bringing emotions into these problems. And when you bring emotion to a gunfight, you're in deep shit. And nothing's going to really change. if you look at every situation, every problem through an emotional lens. And I see it over and over and over and over and over again. And it's just crazy to me.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And it's like, I'm not black-billed because I have faith in at least a small group of people understanding it. But mad, what's going on right now is just unbelievable to me, dude, what people are just accepting. Yeah. And you hit the nail on the head when you said questioning. It's not even, you're not even fighting authority, but just asking the question, are you telling me the truth? You might remember during COVID, Fauci told everybody, don't wear a mask, don't wear a mask.
Starting point is 00:12:03 It's a waste. And then all of a sudden it was like, wear a mask, no wear too. In fact, it's very helpful. And then when he was pressed on it, he was saying, yes, we told us. the noble lie because we lie to you to do the right thing and people just
Starting point is 00:12:23 buy that, you know. It's so crazy to me. The noble lie was because people in the health industry needed them, right? That was the logic of they need them before you do and then once they had them they told them we could wear them again
Starting point is 00:12:39 because what was that noble lie? Yeah, I believe that I believe that was the first version of the noble eye and then I don't know. Yeah, but yeah, I think you're right, actually. But there was no, basically what it was, like in real life, he knew that the masks were useless. And he, for some reason, told the truth about that. And probably the mask maker people said, hey, man, we're cashing in on this. Let's have them, you wear more masks than, you know, the being.
Starting point is 00:13:13 the person that he is, he probably, and this is all, this is all my own, just, I have no, yeah, I'm just guessing based on the willingness of these people, just to tell one provable lie after another, get caught, and then face no consequences, and then go on with another lie. I mean, they'll tell you whatever fits their narrative. You know that. Yeah, what I find interesting is how, You know, it starts off with my body, my choice, and women's right to choose. And then that group just flipped to, you know, you don't have a choice to what you're going to put in your body with vaccines, right? And then it went to mask and the left was like, hey, you got to wear masks. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And the right was like, we don't want to wear masks. We shouldn't have to wear masks. And then ICE comes. And now the right's like, they have to wear masks. and the left is like, they should be wearing masks, right? And now it's the WNBA. You had the right saying for the last past decade, biological men should be playing against biological women.
Starting point is 00:14:24 You're a real pus if you can't compete against men, you've got to compete against women. And now the left is saying, you know, you're a real bitch if you want to compete against women. You're such a bitch. Why do you got to compete against women? And it's like this flip-flopping that they get you to do so you don't know if you're coming or going. And most people don't understand it, like that they don't realize how hypocritical they're being right now.
Starting point is 00:14:54 And it's absolutely hilarious. What the left is crying about these two NBA players, want to play in the WNBA, which I don't think they really want to do. They're just trying to make a point is the exact talking points that the right has been saying about trans competing against. biological women for the last 10 years and they don't even understand it it's left and right trans but whatever
Starting point is 00:15:18 is there even a real like a real actual trans in the WNBA? I mean if you want me to if he said hey if you had to bet on one I'd be bit Britney Grindr oh shit so she's just not out as a trans
Starting point is 00:15:36 is what you're saying. Have you ever seen her? I agree with you. You ever heard her talk? I just want to know. I've ever seen her shooting hoops at her house? Thank the Russian government for freeing me. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Thank you, citizens. I mean, she's very masculine. She's very masculine. I mean, I have bigger tits than she does. That's, you know, everybody is an individual. Like, you can have very masculine-looking women. It's, you know, everybody's. an individual and you
Starting point is 00:16:11 this urge to label everything all the time. It's a sickness. Yeah, maybe she's the greatest female basketball player ever because she was blessed with a body that is perfectly built for basketball and she's probably
Starting point is 00:16:30 paid for it her whole life up until she became a pro basketball player. But yeah, why have women's sports if you're going to let men play the women's sports and then why not have a trans you know category when I have
Starting point is 00:16:51 so have trans women playing against trans men and see how that works out you know well my favorite part right now is that they're like there's less than a 1% chance that you know a trans going to compete against women I'm like then it shouldn't be a problem banning that Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:11 It's so minuscule. Then what's the issue? Well, did you hear Neil deGrasse He said the dumbest suggestion? He was like, it was like in wrestling, we came up with weight classes because, you know, it was not fair for a large man to compete against a tiny man. And he's like, we just need to get creative with the solution to this problem as we did with weight classes and wrestling. Like this is somehow comparable to wrestling, uh, men's wrestling. and the suggestion then to me the logical conclusion to that is okay we just have a trans league we have the TNBA because I'm in dude right I mean that's the only and then how what 10 people are going to be in it it doesn't make any sense
Starting point is 00:17:50 it's going to be all men at the end day if that's trans it's going to be all men there's not or I got it one trans team just one team of all trans that let's say that the you are that you will be that you're want an expansion team let's let let's go find the city with the most trans portland portland you're getting a you're getting a you're getting a basketball team it's only going to be trans and then we just see if they go undefeated you could do one per team like mLS has you know they have designated players you could all you could all get your own trans like your ringer that you bring in you can only play for 10 minutes a game though yeah but we need a team dude we need a team of just trans that's it and just let them see how it works out.
Starting point is 00:18:41 And then suddenly their dynasty, they win the next 10. Yeah, but they would want that. You got to. I like Johnny's idea, one per team. They got to wait five minutes or like a special team. Like China does with American players, you only get like two American players. You don't get a full team of American players.
Starting point is 00:19:00 They do that a lot. They have rules like that in England, too, that limit foreign players. A lot of leagues have that because the idea of a league is to develop players for the national team in part. So I think people would be accepting to that. Why not? Try in Europe first. So try in the European
Starting point is 00:19:17 League, the basketball league. See how you guys care so much. All right, let's get back to his book. I don't know how many chapters he has in the WMBA, but I look forward to it. I want to get into something you want to talk about, and that is socialism, and this rise of the DSA,
Starting point is 00:19:36 Democratic Socialist Party, you know. What is the A stand for? Does anyone know? Association. America. Democratic Socialists of America. Of America. Bang, nailed it. And, you know, well, we look back at like the Bolsheviks and what was going on with the Bolsheviks and how they didn't have the Internet so they probably couldn't hear what
Starting point is 00:19:57 was actually going on. And now we have the Internet and whether that's good or bad, I think it's great, especially in terms of my life. But we seem to be seeing this happen in real time. And we're starting to see a pattern here, which is
Starting point is 00:20:17 like rich kids. Well, first of all, I want to get your take on before we get into it. I don't know. What is your take on this sudden movement of socialism? So before I go there, you mentioned Bolsheviks.
Starting point is 00:20:34 If you look, at the history of the Bolsheviks, there were a lot of tentacles of, you know, international bankers involved in that. Like Lenin was funded by international bankers. What they do is they use socialist ideas as kind of a, like a marketing ploy. They tell people, hey, You guys are no longer going to be serfs. You're going to have, you know, you're going to be full citizens of a new country and there's going to be equality. The workers are going to actually own the factories that they work in. And you're not going to be treated like crap anymore.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And people are like, yeah, it sounds good to me. And they joined the socialist movement. And then you look at the Nazis, the demic, there were the national socialist. party and they used that also as, you know, marketing to make people think that they were going to get some kind of socialist policies. The socialist policies in the 30s, in France especially, but also the U.S. were very strong. The idea of eight-hour workday was a socialist idea back in the 30s. And you can see old newspaper articles coming out, oh, no, there should not be any kind of a limit on how many hours you can make people work.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Or having a weekend was a socialist idea, having paid time off, holidays. You know, it's always described that, I was derided as this evil, you know, communist, socialist thing. but it's just these socialist ideas are just ideas that you can that you can you don't need to
Starting point is 00:22:37 like it's not like a car where you have to buy the whole car to get the white wall tires you can buy the white wall tires and put them on your truck you can get you know you can get a nationalist health system
Starting point is 00:22:50 and still have mom and pop grocery stores and big corporations it's um To me, and this is just my own personal take, but many of these ideas, such as what they call Medicare for All, which I think is a mistake, it's just an idea that we all need all this stuff. And as humans, we're all worthy of certain things. Like, you wouldn't cut the sunlight off of someone because they couldn't afford to pay the money.
Starting point is 00:23:27 the sunlight tax, you know. Everyone deserves sunlight, clean air, clean water. Everybody, if you're sick, you should be able to go to a doctor. Number one, if I'm sick and I have some dread disease and then I'm standing next to your sister on the subway, now it's her problem, too. And so that affects you. Maybe I'm a poor, you know, degenerate loser, low, life, scumbag, lazy bastard. It never lifted a finger for anyone in his life. But now I've got the dread disease I'm passing on to your sainted, beloved sister. I should be able to go get health care to keep her safe.
Starting point is 00:24:14 You know what I'm saying? But anyway, if you think about all the things that we all need, when you turn on the kitchen tap, what you want to come out of there is clean, pure, unadulterated water. And what you want to pay for that is the lowest price possible. Or nothing since it's water. Exactly. Or nothing.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Like, I don't think there's anybody out there saying, well, no, some rich, greedy motherfucker should be able to make a billion dollars off of that. You know, I don't.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah. Just insert themselves. They bottle a natural resource. Like, how crazy is that? We're like, oh dude this is only $2 of this shit that's free yeah yeah and they'll they'll want you to pay $2 for every sip of water that you take uh but so when i think of socialism i just think of those things that everyone needs that you would
Starting point is 00:25:18 not deny to even somebody you didn't like very much because they made poor choices in life you know whatever their personal battles are, they have value in a society. It might be hard for us to see. But whatever it is, even if it's causing a problem that we eventually solve, you know, every human being has value. And every, you know, every person's potential is, you know, could be something great to make everybody. So I understand what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:26:02 So what you're saying is that there are basic needs that we should all be able to have, right? So it's like clean water, food, shelter, health care. Okay. And I agree with that. Okay. The problem right now with, I mean, for the long, time. The problem right now with our health care system is that there's collusion. Okay? Yeah. There's so much collusion going on between the doctors, the hospitals,
Starting point is 00:26:41 and the insurance company. Everybody's making way more money than they should be. My daughter went to the hospital for two days. And if I wasn't blessed enough to be able to afford insurance for her. That, guys, guess how much that two-day visit was going to cost me? Thousands. 40 grand. At least eight, four.
Starting point is 00:27:05 35 grand. Ooh. For a six-year-old little girl. No surgery, no operation, right? No surgery, no operation. A couple things had to be done. I don't want to get into that. But, you know, no surgery, no nothing.
Starting point is 00:27:21 How much is a suite at the four seasons? Exactly. I could have gone. Just go say it to four seasons for two days. You'll do better, sunshine. But I'm, and I'm blessed, and I pay good insurance every,
Starting point is 00:27:34 every month, and I still had a bill $3,500. Yeah, that's right. For a little girl for two days. But also, think about the food industry, is it the same people that sit on the boards of,
Starting point is 00:27:51 you know, XYZ, big food corporation, are also sitting on the boards of the fat pill pharmaceutical company. So it's like, hey, if we can make these people super unhealthy, we can also sell them the cure. It's an incestuous web of just corruption, and they don't care about us.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Like Michael Jackson said it the best. To them, everything is of transaction and we're the source of their money. Like, I don't know how real it is, but I don't know if you guys heard about that beef that's coming from Argentina. Oh, it's already been recalled, I heard. You can't even eat steak. I mean, if you don't want fast food, you don't want junk food, I get it.
Starting point is 00:28:41 But now that even the American population is trying to eat healthy, now they're going even after a piece of steak because it's coming from Argentina that China didn't want. And it introduces this problem. And I guess this goes back to what you're talking. about where people who make an average wage can't afford to eat well. So they're in this sickness loop where you just can't be happy if you're ill. If you're if you're not well, if you don't feel good in your own body, you cannot have a happy life. So and you can't, you can only afford really to shop at a supermarket. And that's the only kind of meat you're going
Starting point is 00:29:17 to be able to get there because the good meat is stuff, you know, people say no, you're butcher. And I totally agree with that. But in many cases that's very expensive to get grass-fed meat from a you know a local source it's more expensive it's always more expensive uh and and and and and that way i i totally agree with what you're saying it's got yeah it's it's that the the beef thing is it's just a horrible betrayal by by this government uh to both farmers and people and the people and it's incredible how how they're just going full on throttle with this thing and it doesn't have to happen.
Starting point is 00:29:57 None of it has to happen. And this is why I recorded a conspiracy social club last night. I am out on voting. It's just I'm out. It's just like as long as you have all of these mail and ballots, you're never going to have a real election. They've already decided who they want. And we're just going through pageantry.
Starting point is 00:30:21 And they just want to keep us in the two-party pair. dime and that's it. And you can't vote your way out of this. And again, everyone's bringing a motion to a gun fight. And I'm not blackbilled.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I'm just completely detached from it. I get where you're coming from, but the more so you've said this before where they're if our votes didn't matter, they wouldn't go to so much trouble to, you know, change our minds. It's like the harder, it's just making a little bit harder for them if there's an overwhelming
Starting point is 00:31:08 number of votes. I think that's how Trump got elected. I think that just the overwhelming number of votes, it was impossible for them to crank out enough mail-in ballots to offset it. I think there is tons of evidence. evidence that there's fakery going on. The most important, one of those was during the 2016 election. Jill Stein requested a recount in Michigan. And the judge said, yeah, you can have a recount. It'll cost you, I think, $2 million, which, of course, she didn't have. And they're like, well, thanks anyway. And then the Hillary people go, oh, no, we'll pay it because we want to recount too. And then they first no reason just said no there's no recount. We're not going to do it.
Starting point is 00:31:58 So that just tells you that whatever the count was, they don't want you to know. Whether Jill Stein made over 5%, which would have put the Green Party on the national debate stage or if, you know, maybe Hillary was closer, who knows what it was. But the bottom line is, if you can, you can, can't, and then the exit polling, they don't do that anymore. So if you can't have exit polling or recounts, you're not really getting an election. But at the same time, if an overwhelming number, that's what I think is happening with this. Mamdani and Abdul Saeed is that there's just so many people that are hip to the whole Zionist takeover of America. And they're like, oh, this guy is the non-Zionist guy, I'm going to vote for him.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Not that they're, you know, potentially Psiops as well. That could be as well. But I think giving up on voting entirely, I vote only in person. And I think that's, you know, at least a one small weapon that we can use against them. In my book, there's a process that's laid out. It's called... Yeah, take us through your book. Take us through your book.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Well, I'll talk about that in generally, but specifically, since we're on the topic, there's something I would really like to set up in real life called Post Party, where people, it's kind of like a dating app, but instead of for dating, it's for voting. So politicians who want to be elected and not really,
Starting point is 00:33:49 politicians, but regular people, would set up a profile that would say, here's where I am on abortion, here's where I am on gun rights, here's where I am on war, you know, regime change wars, blah, blah, blah. And then you do your profile, the voter, and they would match you up with the person that matches the most closely to yours. And then you go vote for that person. It's kind of how the whole process was meant to be in the first place. but in my system, if you're connected to a party, you're out.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Like if you're a party member during the last five years, you can't create a profile because we're done with this party nonsense. The parties are looking out for the parties. They're not looking out for anyone who votes for them. what else did I want to say about that? But I just feel like even when you look at George Washington and the founding fathers,
Starting point is 00:35:02 they never wanted there to be parties. There's no mention of parties in the Constitution. Right. Yeah, they've been talking about that. They didn't even want people to vote on senators. Well, they used to remember, it used to be the person who, who got first place was the president and the person who got second place was the vice president they wanted opposing parties or opposing interests in the white house at the same time that was the
Starting point is 00:35:30 idea that was the design that would be fire dude well the problem then became you had vice presidents who realized that job was pointless that was that's one of the flaws in the original design the one of the the few really significant flaws i think is that vice president's just kind pointless you're just like the backup quarterback yeah it's just yeah you're just getting prime to run for president eventually and you do nothing yeah they should have they should have invested some kind of authority in that position and then maybe it would have that's because that's why it didn't last because the people who partly anyway uh yeah i mean it did make for some awkward situations but yeah that and they did away with that you know after not so long and that would have been weird though
Starting point is 00:36:20 Yeah, it's just been nothing but nothing but party interest since then. Well, and then especially when you consider that if the president dies, the vice president takes over. Yeah. So like, that would be, that's a recipe for disaster.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Murder. I'm all about that dog, dude. I'm all about chaos. I would have loved it that way, dude. That would have been fucking fired. Could you imagine if Joe Biden won and Trump was his vice president?
Starting point is 00:36:50 It's another check, man. It's another check. It's another check and he's just fucking running this, dude. It'd be fun. It'd be fun. I'm all for the chaos, dude. At this point, dude, get it so bad that people can't sit comfortably anymore. Imagine Hillary Clinton as VP for Trump.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Oh, that would have been fucking fire, dude. That would have been such fire, dude. Like he was lurking behind her door. in the debate. That would have been her every day. Yeah, every day, dude. Just, I mean, dude, imagine Hillary Clinton as your vice president. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Making it to four years. Good luck. That would have been chaos. That would have been chaos. Yeah, you know, there's a lot going on. You know, I understand what you're saying, you know, but I just think voting. I think the reason they spend so much money on voting
Starting point is 00:37:51 is to keep us in the two-party paradigm and to get in the right-left paradigm. That's why they spend so much money on. It's just propaganda to get you, this side cares about you, that side cares about you. If you really wanted to change the government, you would get a no-confidence vote where people could vote out the person
Starting point is 00:38:11 they just voted in because they obviously lied to them and you can get them right out and put somebody else back in. I think that's very important. Get rid of lobbying. You're never, listen, if you're waiting for corrupt people to fix corruption, don't hold your breath. You're going to die.
Starting point is 00:38:29 That reminds me of that Gavin Newsome recall. Remember how much we wanted that Gavin Newsome recline and it never happened? No, it did happen and then they gained the vote again. That's all they do. That's all they do, man. It's like, again, if you have mail and ballots, you're never going to have a fucking honest election ever. ever again ever again oh dude people can't make it to vote then you guess you don't vote dude
Starting point is 00:38:53 i don't know why you guys think in person balloting is any is any more reliable because they they're fixing that too surely if they're fixing mail-in votes it's all going into a computer bro computers are the problem one hundred percent but you know you do you whack them all what you can each time i don't think there's any difference that's what i'm saying i think there's absolutely no difference between mail-in and and they can if they're fixing it and they need to fix it they're fixing it well the mail-in thing if you need 10,000 ballots yeah that's my problem you can make it happen you just add a zero in a computer yeah no i'm not i not i don't think you're wrong about that either yeah i don't think you're wrong about that i mean wherever there is a a choke point they're
Starting point is 00:39:40 going to choke the answer is integrity in elections getting people you trust that you know because a lot of especially local elections are handled by people that are a part of that community and they're elected from the towns where
Starting point is 00:39:57 the elections are had so you got to get people that that's the only answer right to make politicians there's too much trust involved you have to have transparency you know if you watch the elections from great
Starting point is 00:40:13 Britain, your ballot goes into a plexiglass box. So you can see it go in. You know, it's folded. You can't see who you voted for. But like you see the ballot go in. And then they take it off and they dump it in the trash. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I'm not like Johnny, you're totally right. With transparency, if you have a public, the votes being counted in a public place and they're not and there's never a time where they go into a truck and disappear. You can follow the truck. You can, you know what I mean? Like, you've got to do it like that. Yeah. No, I agree. They have people shipping their fingers. They, they, they, they, they,
Starting point is 00:40:53 they rig the elections before you even vote. And because, you know, they have like, what are they, I can't remember the name that, but they're essentially quotas where you can only vote for women for certain party offices in the labor party in England because they need more women. They, it should, it would be unconstitutional in America. But in Britain, have you heard about, you know about it's probably Sam that were they only let you. I haven't heard about that. What do they call it the retard clause? No,
Starting point is 00:41:18 what is the, what is it exactly though? And you can only vote for women? Yeah, well, it's like the Labor Party has, because they, to address what they call historical inequities and,
Starting point is 00:41:35 and MPs, you know, they've been more, more men, because men pursue those kinds of, things obviously. Yeah, exactly. It's just like we need women in there. Why? Why? I'm looking out right now. Yeah, some of the most bloodthirsty politicians have been women. Dude, it's an unnatural drive. I'm sorry, women can get mad at me. It's a natural drive. That's what
Starting point is 00:42:04 they call all women shortlists. The UK Labor Party has used all women shortlists when selecting candidates for certain parliamentary seats. The all women shortlists, uh, uh, make it so that only women should be called the all women's short bus list only women can be considered for selection as labor candidates then of course the general elector votes uh among those labor candidates and the other parties but for labor they make it for certain mp slots that you can only vote for women because and and and it's been challenged you know for constitutionality because in america that wouldn't be you know that that that violates a couple of like equal protection and one other thing.
Starting point is 00:42:46 But in the UK, they allowed them to do it until 2030 to address these inequities. Imagine that being a member of a party where they won't let you vote for a man. Yeah, I like being that party. It's absolutely ridiculous. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I'm sorry, dude. Look at the Democrats. What's the Democrats have been doing? Like in 2016, they rigged the election or the primary and then there hasn't been another primary since. Like they just they just pick their person.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Well, there was a primary in 2020 because of COVID. That went off the rails. And then the last time around, they just said, no, Kamal is the person. We're not going to do a primary. You know, like that's completely undemocratic. They should at least not be able
Starting point is 00:43:43 use the name Democrat after that. It's it's it's it's it's just insanity dude. Like it's just women are wonderful. Women are wonderful. There's no they're wonderful. We love them. We love them.
Starting point is 00:44:00 It would be a sausage fest without them. We love them. There are mothers, our sisters, our daughters, our grandmothers. We love them. I don't know why there's this push to make them so they have to be in power. I don't understand it. I don't know a lot of women who want to be political powerhouses. It goes against a lot of their natural wiring.
Starting point is 00:44:26 And I'm sorry, you can get mad at me. There's a reason why women tend to become teachers, psychiatrists, nurses, doctors, because they tend to have empathy. So when you have a someone wanting to be in politics, especially as a liberal, it goes against, the entire natural drive. It goes against it. I've never met a liberal.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Like, I want to be a politician. I've never met that. And I've never met a woman who wanted to do it. So now you have a female politician. They're just outliers. And that's why they tend to be even more psychopath than men. And listen, men haven't done a good job of being politicians either. So I'm not like when people say repeal women's right to vote,
Starting point is 00:45:15 I say repeal almost everybody's right to vote until they show they actually are invested in what is actually happening. Like they know what's going on. I may not even qualify for that. And you could have my vote. I would gladly give that up if it meant taking literally 70% of the people and get them off the voter rolls. I know it sounds like mean or dark bill,
Starting point is 00:45:40 but you just have people voting for the dumbest reasons. none of it's about the the actual issues that the politician believes in it's like I'm both for a what I'm both by black it's like what about what they believe in
Starting point is 00:45:57 what's their issues so you're talking about I think we would do better if we just pulled people at random from the population and stuck them in those offices like through a lottery yeah I'm not against that either maybe instead I have to be the military
Starting point is 00:46:13 you have to you have You have to serve as a politician for two years and something. And you can't leave until you balance it. Right. You got to have a balanced budget by the end of your two to four year term. Or you're executed. How about that? That would be great.
Starting point is 00:46:33 That would get it done. Well, we'll start that now. Did you see that somebody brought a guillotine to Washington, D.C., and they arrested them? Yeah. I did not see that. but I don't understand. How can you arrest him for that? Well, like, what is the offense?
Starting point is 00:46:48 You're violating its freedom of speech. John even knows that from outer space. I'm not in outer space. I'm in near Earth orbit. Oh, you're in the Earth orbit, just like the moon. Gotcha. NEO. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:47:03 He's in one of the Grinch points. So talk to me about your book. I want to hear about your book. Okay. So the book is a story of a man coming to grips with the fact that his country is ruled over by greedy and sadistic psychopaths. So it's a work of fiction, obviously. I envisioned it as a kind of 1984 for our current time, but where Orwell was
Starting point is 00:47:33 warning us where we were headed. Machiavelli Nation paints a picture of where we ended up. The plot revolves around. around a team that's coerced into joining a secret revolt using the psycho zone weapons against them to put something more fair and equitable in its place. So it touches on a lot of dark and sinister topics, but it's ultimately hopeful and positive. It has a lot of humor woven throughout it, Some poignant, heartfelt scenes are there. But it's mainly just a wild ride.
Starting point is 00:48:22 A lot of imaginative, far-out stuff goes on. And it's the perfect book for our times. It really is, I think it's almost like a guide for Normies to look at what world they're actually living in and how to make sense of the things going on around them, how to interpret news stories. And there's also like the post-party thing, potential solutions to some of our problems. Okay. That's the synopsis.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I like that. I like that. That's great. I'm going to buy your book. Oh, you're getting a free copy, Sam. Oh, that's very good. So you wanted to talk a little bit about socialism, especially in Michigan. What are your thoughts on that?
Starting point is 00:49:25 First thing is, you know, Michigan went for Trump this last time around because Trump was promising to, what was it? What was it? Basically, the Harris Biden administration, was engaged in a genocide. And Trump was kind of making noises like he was not really in favor of that. That's why many of the Michigan voters voted for Trump instead of Harris in the presidential election. What that can tell you is that the, you know, the Gaza genocide and the Zionist takeover of government.
Starting point is 00:50:17 that people are catching on to that and that they're against it. Now, Abdul al-Sayed may be with, I'm not sure if he's with the DSA or not. He was kind of like a Bernie Sanders Democrat. And one of his main things is Medicare for all.
Starting point is 00:50:42 And I think that's combined with his takes on Zionism and genocide that that kind of pushed him over the top but as far as socialism itself is concerned
Starting point is 00:50:58 I want to go back to what I said before think of socialism as a menu that you can pick from you don't need you know like gulags and re-education camps
Starting point is 00:51:16 and what is it called social Marxism. You know, you don't necessarily need all, it's not like one package that you need to buy. You could say people's health care should come out of their taxes. Nobody should get rich off of health care unless a doctor can buy another Porsche or a nice bigger boat. You know, that might make sense.
Starting point is 00:51:48 but we're all paying incredible amounts of money into the system. Most of us are taking out a little bit, a little bit. But some of us need a ton. Some of us need a lot of help where we're going to die. The current system says, let them die. That's not moral. That's not, you know, America is a generous, moral, caring, benevolent country. At least that's what we're always told.
Starting point is 00:52:24 To let people die just because they don't have enough money to pay. And it's not even paying the doctor. It's paying the insurance company for their profits. Have you ever seen the prudential building? You know, these insurance companies are basically parasites that suck life-giving money out of the patient and out of the doctor. that matter. So the doctors have to work more.
Starting point is 00:52:55 They have to hire more staff to take care of all this paperwork. If we just had a situation where, hey, your taxes go into a pool. And when you get sick, money comes out of that pool to pay the people that are taking care of you. It makes a lot more sense than, oh, yeah, we're going to give our money plus our money. plus our employers are going to give money to this system that has financial, you know, vehicles and derivatives. And then, oh, some of that money may go to your health care if they decide it's worth it. If the insurance company decides you really need that scan or you really need that operation.
Starting point is 00:53:49 And if you die, well, oh, well, too bad. So sad. But, you know, the good news is you probably would have just costed the insurance company more money anyway if you would live. So it's, you know, it's a win for them. Can't what I'm saying? Like, that's one thing that you can look at and go, yeah, that would be better if it was a group thing that was not done for profit. And you can look at other types of insurance as well, like fire insurance. insurance, you know, if instead of paying an insurance company, if we could just pool our
Starting point is 00:54:28 premiums together, that money would grow and grow and grow and eventually you'd be able to fund every fire department in your city. And people would get their fires put out, and then you could, you know, your payments might even go down because there aren't that many fires, you know. There's tons of houses that are just fine for years and years and years and years. but people are paying for their insurance all this time. And it's just going to make somebody else rich. And the last thing I want to say about that is look what these people are doing with their money.
Starting point is 00:55:05 It's not like they're helping the world. They're not giving us anything. They're finding more ways to insidify everything that we do. They're creating products that are built to fail. They're giving us things that are harder to use or that you have to have a subscription to use. It's just a thing that's eating itself. There you go. That's my soapbox.
Starting point is 00:55:42 But I think many of the people in Michigan have voted for Abdul El-Said did it for many different reasons. and to blanket this with the word, the scare word, actually, socialism. I think it's a mistake. I think there's a lot more to be learned about it. You still there? I think it's Mike. I think you're muted, Sam.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Sorry. Michigan's very interesting right now. I don't know if it's just presentation from the internet to make us things. something's going on, but it seems to be heavily, uh, heavily Muslim right now. And that,
Starting point is 00:56:37 and it's very weird to me that Muslims seem to be Bolsheviks at this point. That's a very weird thing to me, even though there is an argument that the young Turks were Bolsheviks. And I understand that because I'm Armenian. I got 1915 tattoo on my, uh, fat gut on my side. But it seems to be that there is this kind of movement going on in Michigan. And this rise of, you know, because Michigan has been very liberal for a very long time because unions and the car manufacturers.
Starting point is 00:57:17 To the point, you know, Michigan is one of the highest tax rates in the country. So it's interesting to see how they're voting right now, even though I don't. believe in voting, but it seems to be going that way. You know, it's like and I've said this before, you're either voting for a neocon Zionist or a progressive Bolshevik. And we had that one
Starting point is 00:57:39 primary between a woman who said she dreams about Israel at night. I mean, absolute insanity. You have dreams about Israel? Like what weird, what dreams are you having, lady? Oh.
Starting point is 00:57:57 And she got pounded on, and they threw, APEC threw as much money as they could behind her. Nothing happened because it was so bad. It just seems like we have this, this. It seems like we're getting spit roasted from Zionists and Bolsheviks right now. It's an interesting take. I don't know if I see it exactly that way. I think part of it boils down, though, to the, left-right paradigm where you're either, like you said, either one or the other,
Starting point is 00:58:32 like you're either a Zionist or a Bolshevik. I don't know if you're aware, but the Democrats are not really a left party. The Democrat Party, Jimmy Dorr explains this really well in terms of what he calls the ratchet effect, that the Republicans are there to push everything to the right to push all policies
Starting point is 00:59:04 more towards helping the wealthy and big corporations and then the Democrats if you've ever seen how a ratchet you know how you had that thing that cranks the boat up and there's a ratchet
Starting point is 00:59:17 that keeps it from slipping back well the Democrats are like that little it's called a paw that goes to the gear that stops it from turning back. You know, the Republicans will turn it to the right, turn it to the right. And then if the Democrats are there to make sure no progressive, truly progressive policies happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:39 They're there to stop that. They are not a left party. They're not. You watch Fox News or other outlets, and they act like Hillary Clinton reads Carl Marx or something like that. They're just another crime family. The Democrats are just another, you know, cabal of people who have their role and their role is to pretend to care about ordinary people. And then the Republicans, their role is to care about the ultra wealthy and the religious people. And the whole thing is just, it's just,
Starting point is 01:00:24 a steamroller with two wheels that rolls over both of everyone in both parties. And until we come together and look at things beyond labels, let's look at things like what's best for the people is a system where you, every, it's every man for himself, the more advantage you have, the more, you know, liberties that you take, the more the least advantage you are, the more weight that's thrown on top of you, that can't succeed.
Starting point is 01:01:12 And we're seeing the effects of that now. Everything is breaking down. It's part of the reason we have this, meat that makes you sick or ticks that make you allergic to meat. We have, you know, all this crap that's just imploding everywhere. It's because with the system that we have,
Starting point is 01:01:37 the capitalist system, crony capitalism, I would say, where it requires infinite growth. It requires constant growth. And the products that it makes are all things that harm people. It's shitty food. It's the military industrial complex. It's pollution and electronic waste. You know, I have an iPad that's nine years old and you can't get apps for it because it's obsolete after nine years.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Works perfectly well. No, I'm supposed to put that in the trash. and go buy a new one it's a mad system that just isn't working and we need to look at other solutions and we need to
Starting point is 01:02:29 be willing to open the box that we've been lied to about our whole lives and I'm not saying that the Russians and Cubans weren't lied to either like everything is a siop
Starting point is 01:02:46 but we need to look at these boxes and open them up and say, what can we use out of here and not be afraid of it because it's got some socialist goop on it. We're afraid it's going to stain everything that we touch. We've got to be realistic. And we have a world to design. We need to get, get busy. Because the one that we're in now, it's fading away.
Starting point is 01:03:13 I agree. I agree with you. I think we need to have some level. of, you know, everyone wants free market. The medical industry is not free market. It is complete collusion. You can't have free, there's no free markets. There's no, I've always said health care should be like hamburgers, right?
Starting point is 01:03:40 If you can only afford a dollar hamburger, you should be able to go get a dollar hamburger of health care. If you can afford it a $20 hamburger, you go get a $20 hamburger. but there should be a hamburger. You should be able to get something, you know, to help if you're going through it. And yes, there are going to be people who are greedy and want to make a ton of money and only want to sell $20 hamburgers, you know. But there should be a way that people who do care about people who do care about people, like, you know, the Gaza doctors who go into Gaza to help Gazans who've been genocided, they do it for no money. There are people out there that want to help people.
Starting point is 01:04:30 So those people should be able to work and be able to have a living wage so they can support their families and help the poor who need health care. You know? And, you know, I'm going to say something pretty crazy right now, but, you know, a big part of communism is the cell of getting rid of poverty and people lose their mind when I say this. But there's a part of poverty that inspires people to figure out a way out. And with that, they create great things, great art, great inventions. They become great athletes.
Starting point is 01:05:13 They become great musicians and comedians. and there's something that inspires people to work their ass off to get out of their situation. Again, when you get into like universal basic income, you're just basically stifling people. You're making them so comfortable that they don't have any drive to get out of their current situation. We see that all the time. That's the welfare state. And there's people I know on welfare that want to get off welfare. But there's a lot of people are just happy with EBT cards and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:50 And they stay paying the rent and all that. They just want, that's how they're happy. And you're never going to be able to do anything with those people. It's like, Johnny, you talk about it all the time about how George Carlin said, work ethic is a genetics thing.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Yeah. Yeah. You either got it or you don't. And sometimes hard workers come from people that don't want work hard. I've always said this. If you're broke, it's probably because your ancestors didn't figure out how to play the system. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Yeah, it's at least partly genetic for sure. I think you can grow up in a situation that motivates you, you know, kind of trigger something inside of you, but yeah, for sure, yeah. Dolly Parton is a great example of it. She comes from an incredibly poor, poor family.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Like her, as well as you think last night, the doctor that helped birth her was paid in oatmeal. What? He got a bag of oatmeal from the parents. I mean, oatmeal is great. Oatmeal is great. It's really great.
Starting point is 01:06:54 But he didn't have any money to pay her because he had 10 kids because when you got no money, humpings all you got. And he put out one of the greatest entertainers of all time. I mean, Dolly Parton, I mean, I haven't seen people react like this since like Frank Sinatra and Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 01:07:13 That's how much people. Like the world stopped when Dolly, at least in America, stopped when Dolly Parton's, you know, I mean, she came from dirt poor, dude, like dirt poor. So it's a great motivator. I'm not saying I'm okay with people living in poverty, but there is something about this motivation to change your family history and your family trajectory financially. Now, I want to get it. I'm interested in find out your phone.
Starting point is 01:07:47 You'll make a request. I got to use the bathroom. Yeah, go use the bathroom. Sorry about that. That's okay. I'll make a note to pause. Hey, I'm 62, man. Sorry, but you're allowed.
Starting point is 01:07:58 You're allowed. Go potty. Go potty. I was making a note. Stop and then edit this out. I was about to say you want to do your dates? Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah, do your dates.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Johnny, great call, Xavier Guerrero. Go. Just go to Sam. dot com. It's got all my dates there. It's got World War Debate is coming. September 12th. I'm really excited about it, dude. It's kind of crazy. Like I have been and I flow. I'm like, oh, I hope we can pull this off.
Starting point is 01:08:29 And now today I'm in this like, I think this is going to be extraordinary. Nashville at the Woodworth Theater, September 12th. Grab your tickets now. There's cheap tickets left there. Lawrence, Kansas. keep going down. Then I'm going to be at the Lutie Ben in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Then I'm going to be at Truther Khan. Then we'd be at Skang Fest.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Then we'll be at the Comedy Mothership in Austin. And then I'm adding, it hasn't been added yet. Wichita, Kansas. I'm going to be at the Luni Ben at Wichita, Kansas. My last date of 2026 will be there. And then, again, if you go to YouTube.com, slash at at gas digital network you can see my new special uh youtube.com at at slash at gas digital you can see my my special uh is dropping 30 minutes the last two on gas digital have been absolute
Starting point is 01:09:33 killers i hope i can follow them i'm just going to tell you this we did two shows i killed both shows but I annihilated in the second show. Like just annihilation. So I'm dying to see how people react to it. We'll see, dude. It's a great special. I mean, it's a murder special. So I'm very excited, about 30 minutes of power.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Again, September 1st on YouTube.com slash gas digital. And again, the Chaos Twins should be rolling. we have our fundraiser set up to get issue two done so get in it to win it that's chaostwins.com uh... dot com
Starting point is 01:10:18 you could join the fundraiser there all right we're back uh want to hear your thoughts on gun control okay uh but can we go back to what you're saying about poverty being a great creator of art sure sure so the I think that
Starting point is 01:10:36 um Some of the best artists come out of like the South and the black community, especially music and film and the visual arts. But there's never going to be a shortage of sorrow, hardship. And I don't think we need to keep poverty around for the sake of art. I think maybe we'll have just as much great art. art without it. But that's, you know, I think there is truth to that, though. I do think that with suffering comes a lot of great art. Alanis Morissette was a great example of that. Her first
Starting point is 01:11:23 album when she was going through a lot of things emotionally was brilliant. And then she got successful and, you know, I don't think she had nearly the success with any of her future later things. Maybe Johnny, you... No, it's funny. I didn't expect to hear about Alanis Moore said there. Yeah, I think that's a good example. But, okay, so gun control, I would like to say that the problem with the gun control debate is we look at it from the wrong way. People tend to focus on what guns should be banned.
Starting point is 01:12:06 And I would ask them to say, well, what gun is it okay for me to have? Is it okay to have Barney Fife from Mayberry, the revolver that he would carry with one bullet in it, or Elmer Fudd's shotgun, is it okay for me to have that? And then if your answer is yes, then I would say, well, do you have, a gun like that or would you be able to handle that safely if a child were to discover one somewhere and you had you were the adult that had to take charge of that and if not why
Starting point is 01:12:45 you live in a country where guns exist if you're going to have opinions on it then you need to just you need to be able to talk from both sides. of the equation. What, like, what is acceptable? Do you have one? Have you shot that?
Starting point is 01:13:07 Can you handle that safely? And if the answer is no, then, you know, maybe that person doesn't really belong in the debate, or maybe they can educate themselves and figure out why. I'll bet most people that are against guns probably couldn't answer that question of what would be an okay gun.
Starting point is 01:13:31 done for people to have. Yeah, I mean, they just, it's so skewed. Do you know that more people have died in Europe from not having air conditioning than died in mass shootings in America? It's funny, because I was just talking about actually before we got on here about how fucking hot it is over here because they don't have air conditioning. It's crazy that you would say that. Isn't that crazy they don't have air conditioning?
Starting point is 01:13:59 Like, what do we do? doing. Yeah. I could not imagine being in L.A. right now without air conditioning. Oh, forget about it. Yeah. I mean, everyone would move to San Diego. It's the only place in America you don't need air conditioning.
Starting point is 01:14:14 And it was that way in L.A. for, for, I know people who've lived here for like, you know, 50 years. It used to be that way in L.A. that they didn't have AC there. And now it's like just scorching, dude. How hot do you think it has to get in the UK for that to change? I mean, it's like you said. In London and stuff, it could get really warm in the summer. And that's why people die, I guess.
Starting point is 01:14:38 But, yeah, it's, it's a- I wonder at what the murder rate is when it gets summer. I mean, I was in upstate New York. It was so hot. Everyone was pissed at each other. Everyone was just angry. The problem is I'm the only one here. So I'm just pissed at myself all the time, just walking around like you.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Johnny just angrily jacking it, dude. Just pissed. My poor dick. oh you're just such a piece of shit no but you're right about the gun thing too because i mean you have anybody who just uses the term assault rifle you know as a is a like a sort of a blanket term for for any rifle at all you know they don't know the difference between semi-auto and auto some of the left people don't know the basic terms of firearms you know you would think if you wanted to have an opinion that was going to affect so many people uh you know and take a right
Starting point is 01:15:30 away from so many people that you would educate yourself about the fundamentals of what you were discussing, you know? And that's just not, you know, it's not the case with, I think you find it more on the left, obviously, because they are the ones that don't want to, I mean, they're like afraid.
Starting point is 01:15:47 If I was that person, I would at least give it a shot, you know, to make sure I wasn't missing something. Can they not even order air conditioning machines from the United States? It's weird, man. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:01 You find it, like the hotels and stuff, it's a lot of the, the hotels that are owned by like Middle Eastern companies and stuff are the ones that have great AC because, you know, they're used to dealing with the heat, I guess. And it's just Europe is, you saw, at the World Cup this summer, I saw a bunch of videos of these English guys and they were like, we get AC now. We understand.
Starting point is 01:16:23 Because when they were in Texas, you know, and it was just baking. I just think it doesn't get quite as hot here. So they just struggle through the summer. but it's where are you Johnny? I didn't know you were in Europe. I, well, just for this week. I'm here for football.
Starting point is 01:16:35 I'm in Stratford upon Avon right now for that. I mean, that Game of Thrones play last night. It's good. I pay Johnny too much. It didn't cost me anything. I used an airline miles. He lives a great life. I just use my airline miles for this trips.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Yeah, Johnny flies so much. He's got airline miles to go to Ireland. Yeah, I go back home to the farm a lot. Dang, must be nice. And then once a year. He's living his busy. best life. Once a year, I cash in my farm miles for a trip somewhere. Johnny. Johnny, I hope they don't mess with you
Starting point is 01:17:07 coming back, dude. Don't speak that into existence, please. I'm trying not to, dude. I'm trying not to, but it is chaos. Flying right now, oh, I'm just watching all my comic friends. And they fuck my flight up again! I'm like, you guys you guys, people should start suing these airlines for the data to prove that they should shut down flights. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Show me the data says that the weather is so bad in this trajectory of where I'm going to be flying that you can't fly. Because I got a lot of shit when I said from Buffalo to Chicago Chicago to the United States was
Starting point is 01:17:51 the clear skies. And they're like, oh, we got to shut down. It's just chaos. Well, I mean, I had that happen to me before and I pressed them on it and it was explained to me that the plane that I was supposed to be on never arrived because it was in Florida and there was like a huge storm
Starting point is 01:18:08 in Florida. Because if the plane you're supposed to be on, it's coming from wherever. If that one doesn't get there, then you have no plane. I looked out my plane was right there. What did they say? It was on the route. It's bad weather and we're a bunch of fucking momos.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Maybe there was a thunderstorm inside the plane, Sam. Yeah, maybe inside the plane. That could be. That could be. That's, I would 100% believe that over what they pitched me, which was hot garbage. I've missed more flights because of them just not having people there, you know, like, and I heard the funniest thing for a flight that got canceled once. They were, they, I overheard. I just happened to be standing near.
Starting point is 01:18:49 And there was a guy there, Sam, who offered to serve on the plane. And they were like, no, we can't let you. He worked for American. And he was like, guys, I'll go do. the job on this. You know, it's fine. I'll help you guys out and they wouldn't let them do it. Is that crazy? Yeah. I mean, it's absolutely. I mean, dude, I remember I was flying from, I think, Tampa to wherever Florida State is. Where is that, Johnny? What's the city? Al-Ahasse. Tallahassee. It's an hour flight. My flight was two hours late. And they kept saying,
Starting point is 01:19:23 we can't locate the crew right now. I'm like, were they on a Coke binge? Like, I'm here. and I'm a drug addict. I'm here on time, but like, what are we doing here? It's just absolutely insanity. Did you get the one where they don't have the paper, the right paperwork filled out? Anything to fuck with you, dude. Well, I mean, let's say what with the unspoken thing.
Starting point is 01:19:47 You think that they're doing this to traumatize people, right? Like they fuck up flying. They don't want you flying. I haven't had, honestly, over the past year, knock on wood here, but it's been, I've had a smooth sailing. Johnny, because you got farmer miles and they don't want to fuck with you.
Starting point is 01:20:03 They don't want you flying. They don't want you flying. They don't want the poor people. No, they want those people coming on to all the rest of the flights and just wants to pay off. That's funny. That's funny. That's fun. That makes more sense. You're right. I would talk about some broken sim. I had a woman in the,
Starting point is 01:20:20 in coach, go up to the front and complain about the temperature of the planes. And then try to rally every, everybody in first class to kind of revolt against the To make it hotter, we should say, not colder. Nobody ever wants it hotter on a plane.
Starting point is 01:20:39 The hot plane is the most miserable thing you can experience. She wanted it hotter. That's insane, dude. Well, dude, this has been great episode, brother. This has been great. It's a good episode. One more time. Tell us about your book. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:53 And where they can find it. So, the book is Machiavelli Nation. And the website is Machiavelli Nation.com. Machiavelli is the philosopher from the Middle Ages who wrote the book, The Prince, M-A-C-H-I-A-A-V-E-L-L-I. Nation is spelled like it always is, Nation. And it's dot-com.
Starting point is 01:21:24 My name is Hannam. I have a promo for a tinfoil hat listeners. Can I tell them that? Yes, of course. All right. So because I want more people to read the book, everybody so far has told me great things. I haven't had anyone yet that hasn't liked the book. Darren Grimes, his review was my favorite.
Starting point is 01:21:48 He said, there's a lot of shit out there and this doesn't fall into that category. That's from Grimerica. but for the first 10 people who email me and the email is HANAMN-N-N-U-M- at Machiavelli Nation.com if you email me that you're a tinfoil hat listener first 10 people will get a free autograph copy of the hardcover Oh, that's nice. Thank you. The next 10 will get a free autograph copy of the paper
Starting point is 01:22:26 back, but they have to promise they will read the book all the way through and they will send me a review on the book. Okay. So if you're not willing to do that, please let someone else have these first free 10 copies. The next 50 copies, whether hardback or paperback, if you email me, I will get you the book for half price. Oh, dude. Can you email me all that stuff so I can put it in the,
Starting point is 01:22:56 the description so they can hear it and hopefully hit you up for a book, dude. What a great episode this was, man. Thank you so much, dude. I'm glad we made it happen. Thank you for the kind words. It's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much for the invitation. I am truly honored and great meeting you.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Oh, and I saw you in Detroit, by the way. I don't know if I look familiar, but. I got you, we want to send you this, so I need your address. It just so much has the Sam Trippoli vibe is Detroit versus everybody. I will wear that shirt.
Starting point is 01:23:42 All right, my friend. I love it. I love a city where you can buy a church. I'm in, dude. Should we buy a church in Detroit and open up a podcast studio in there? Hey, man, I'm dumb.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Did you see that couple that bought that school? house and turned it into like a mansion. It's an amazing YouTube channel of this couple that bought a school house there and it's just a beautiful home now. All on their sweat. Hey man, Alice's restaurant.
Starting point is 01:24:10 They bought the church, moved the pews out. I made it into a restaurant. You know that one? Oh no, dude. Oh yeah. It's our little gods. It's a, every Thanksgiving they have that on the radio.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Yeah, I didn't get a chance to talk about the book as much as I would have liked to but everybody this is the book for the time. Get it for your normie friends. Get it for yourself. It's a fun read. A lot of tinfoil
Starting point is 01:24:39 had inspired items in there. Thanks so much guys and I appreciate the opportunity. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning.
Starting point is 01:25:09 Dude, you just blew my mind.

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