Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - 1023: The Rich Kid Revolution With Sagnik Basu

Episode Date: September 18, 2026

On the latest episode of Tin Foil Hat, Sam Tripoli welcomes Sagnik Basu for a wide-ranging conversation about the cultural and political forces reshaping America's cities. They dive into capitalism v...ersus socialism, builder energy versus leeching energy, populism versus ideology, and whether AI and technology represent progress or a future of forced degrowth. They also break down the struggles facing Gen Z and explore the changing politics of New York City, from transplants and luxury beliefs to the growing divide over what the future of urban America should look like. Sam Tripoli's 5th Comedy Special drops Sept 1st on Gas Digital's Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@GaSDigitalNetwork Check out Word War Debate 2: https://bit.ly/4xRDe0S Please check out Sam Tripoli's 6th Crowd Work Special "Women Can't Peg" Live From Batavia: https://bit.ly/3TZBzHT Please subscribe to the new Tin Foil Hat youtube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/@TinFoilHatYoutube Grab your copy of the 2nd issue of the Chaos Twins now and join the Army Of Chaos: https://bit.ly/4gIg1ID Check out Sam "DoomScrollin with Sam Tripoli and Midnight Mike" Every Tuesday At 4pm pst on Youtube, X Twitter, Rumble and Rokfin! Join the WolfPack at Wise Wolf Gold and Silver and start hedging your financial position by investing in precious metals now! Go to https://www.samtripoli.gold/ and use the promo code "TinFoil" and we thank Tony for supporting our show. Grab Tickets To Sam Tripoli's Live Shows At SamTripoli.com: Lawerence, KS: 9/17-9/19 Tulsa, OK: 10/9-10/10 Dallsa, Tx: Nov 7th (TrutherCon) Austin, TX: Dec 11th-13th Witcha, KS: Dec 18th-19th Please check out Sagnik Basu's internet: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@thesagnikbasu Instagraminstagram.com/sssagnic Twittertwitter.com/_sagnikbasu Apple Podcastspodcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-sagnik-show/id1703153029   Please check out Sam Tripoli's internet: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Sam Tripoli's Stand Up Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@SamTripoliComedy Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy/%20P Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/ Please support our sponsors:  HIMS: No man wants to lose his hair, but for men, it's actually very common. And now with Hims, the solution is simple. Try Hims' hair loss solutions and you'll be joining hundreds of thousands of subscribers who got their flow back.  Start your free online visit today at Hims dot com slash TINFOILHAT.  That's hims.com/TINFOILHAT for your personalized hair loss treatment options. BLUECHEW: BlueChew Gold is the newest innovation from the #1 chewable ED brand. This 4-in-1 formula combines two ingredients for blood flow with Apomorphine and Oxytocin to boost performance, arousal, and connection. Get 10% off your first month with code TINFOIL at BlueChew.com. Visit BlueChew.com for important safety information, and thanks to BlueChew for sponsoring the podcast.  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Washington and the broader news media is an imperial capital, and its only job is to serve itself and survive shifting power structures. Tinfoil hat. Oh, what the fuck are you guys people talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed, and a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to tinfoil hat. We go deep, home, boy. All right. Open your mind.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. This is only the beginning. Dude, you just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind below? All right, guys, and welcome back to another tinfall hat, live from the Wise Wolf Golden Silver Studios.
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Starting point is 00:01:24 I think he nails it a lot about what's happening in our big cities and our universities. Please welcome. Sagnick, how are you, buddy? I'm doing good. How you guys doing? Thanks for having me on. Well, I mean, I'm very excited to have you. I'm a little giddy, actually.
Starting point is 00:01:39 So before we get into it, can tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you. Sweet. Yeah, my name is Saugning. I've been working in media for the last 10 years, most specifically journalism. I moved to Washington, D.C. when I was 19 years old. I think it was Trump won. Kavanaugh was going on. So I was kind of baptized in the crazy news world when I first moved to the
Starting point is 00:02:03 States from the UK and yeah I mean it's been a long journey I started helping Tucker start the video section of his blog called the Daily Caller from then I worked in the den of Fox News started a bunch of production companies helped a lot of YouTubers in the news space get off the ground made content myself then I worked at the den of the Washington Post and now I'm about to resign in the next month and go solo, Dolo, build some cool shit like you guys and have a lot of fun in the process. Well, that's great, dude. That's great. So do they know you're going to resign? You kind of put that out there. That's kind of. I mean, if the HR hasn't told the big bosses, unless they're a big fan of San Pauley, they won't find it. San Dribley, yeah, dude, for sure. So, um, so. Um, um,
Starting point is 00:03:03 very excited. You focus a lot on, well, let's, let's before we get into that, the media, like, what do you think's going on with the media? Why can't they get out of their own way right now? Because they perform for each other, not for America. That's why. Yeah. It's the good old code. It's like a big club and you're not in it. And yeah, the TLDR here is that, which I found out the hard way, which is Washington and the broader news media is an imperial capital, and its only job is to serve itself and survive shifting power structures. A lot of people think that media's job is to inform and serve the people and kind of speak truth to power, whatever that means, whose truth, whose power, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:56 But that's why there's a lot of confusion. Like, hey, why is it feels like the media is not for us. It feels like the media is not telling us what's going on. So, yeah, because the media's job is to make sure that it survives chaotic news cycles and changing presidential cycles. So to answer your question, the media is a club, and their job is to look good for each other, perform for each other, and to go on clubs and make sure that they give each other jobs.
Starting point is 00:04:23 It's very incestuous. I found out the hard way. And the broader public right now is realizing, which is why people, you know, they trust people like you, They trust people like Grogan. They trust independent people. And yeah, I think 10 years down the line, the news will still exist, the mainstream media will still exist because at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:04:40 people in Washington, D.C., Chevy Sheffey's, Georgetown, I don't know, like the broader lobbyist industry, the people who run companies, they will trust, you know, like the financial times or the post or the whatever. So they will have a niche but prestige audience, whereas everyday Americans will get the news from people who look like them, and talk like them and who they can trust. I remember there's that one moment on Morning Joe. I forget how to pronounce her last name,
Starting point is 00:05:08 but she was. Mika Brasinski. Yeah, where she's like, it's our job to tell you what to think. And that was kind of like a real like look behind the curtain in that the programming going on. And it's just this inability to like, you know, my girlfriend still watches MSNBC.
Starting point is 00:05:29 see she hasn't watched it in a while, but she does turn it on once in a while and she'll check out Rachel Maddow. And I'll be like, how many times you have to lie to you for you to be like not going to be into that? But it just gets into these certain patterns that people need to have. And that seems to be dying off. But then the new media seems to be being kind of co-opted as well. Do you think, what are your thoughts on that? I'll get to the new media thing. But what you said about Mika, like that attitude really robs me the wrong way and which is why.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I had an expirate in mainstream media, which is this hubris of assuming that only you know what's up, and only you get to tell Americans how to think and how to feel. And I don't know, man. Like when I moved to the States, the best thing that happened to me was I traveled to make documentaries. I traveled in the middle of the country in the boonies of California to make documentaries about the most random stuff ever. and I got to meet a lot of normal people. And that was how I was kind of introduced to these United States of America. And then when I walk into fancy Schmancy Newsrooms in Fifth Ave or in Washington, D.C.,
Starting point is 00:06:41 and then I meet these people, I was like, I'm an immigrant. How do I have better gauge of, like, what America is than you guys? Because these people travel, do not travel. 100%. They stay in their bubble. and they have this uppity-nose attitude about the normal people. And sometimes even when they're confronted with what normal people believe in and their mode of operation, they're like, yeah, maybe they should know better.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Oh, maybe they should do better. I was like, no, no, no, it's just like different. It doesn't have to fit the bill. The point of the states is federalism. Like everything, every state gets to make its own decision. People get to make up with their own minds. They have communities, whatever. Like the way New Orleans lives is nowhere close to how.
Starting point is 00:07:24 New York lives and that's actually really fun, really cool. But point being, the me gods of the world, they have this hubris of, yeah, we know better and we are going to tell you. And if you disagree, we despise you because you're beneath us. And it's very condescending. To the new media thing, I think how long has it been? I don't know, like almost like five years, like post-COVID, this new media, even like the nomenclature, like new media has been a thing.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I think there are a lot of OG people who has been doing it for a while vis-a-vis the Roganverse, and they have always existed in this space. I think a lot of people are doing disservice to the platforms and to this craft of going direct to the audience by kind of being like, oh, yeah, I'm direct on YouTube. It's totally different. I'm like, no, no, no, it's not different. You just on YouTube. That doesn't mean that you know.
Starting point is 00:08:21 better, like, you understand how the internet works, or you scroll through comment section, you know how Reddit works. No, no, no. We were like, I'm 30 years old. I came up in this space. So I meet a lot of journalists who approach me and God bless them. Like, this is not a judgment on anyone because, like, people have to adjust with changing times and make money. So, like, I sympathize with the urge. But there are a lot of journalists who come up to me and be like, hey, like, I'm trying to get big on YouTube or Instagram and this and that. And then like, why is it not working? I talk to them. I'm like, hey, what do you believe and tell me who are the people who you are trying to reach out to? And they haven't confronted their core, first principle beliefs
Starting point is 00:09:00 of, yeah, sometimes media does get things wrong. Sometimes people really need people to talk to them directly, like one-on-one like you do. They don't get it. They just want to be like, oh, we used to be on the big TV and now we're on people's phones. So they know, it's more than that, buddy. And if you can't concede that, you won't get it. So to answer your new media question, if you actually don't understand why people don't trust television journalism like mainstream news, if you cannot answer that question in one line, you don't deserve to be a new media. You can make a YouTube page, God bless. You can make Instagram videos, TikTok.
Starting point is 00:09:41 God bless. I'm like, it's good. I'm like, I think like more people should make videos because they reveal who they are. But you can do that, but you will never crack the code because you don't understand the core mechanics and why people consume content this way. If you can't concede that, you will never make it. Yes, that's very, that's, it's so interesting you said that because they're like, oh, our video is here. Now it's over here and it should be the same thing, dude. It's like, no, man, you're in the wild west right now. I will, I will give you an example. I work with a lot
Starting point is 00:10:15 of journalists who are, you know, like people who are going to Harvard, Yale and professional, like very capital J-journalist people. And all big newsrooms are like, oh, we have to make podcasts now. I'm like, all right, cool. Like, let's see what's up. And they do interviews and they have some like YouTuber on. They have some like influencer person with a good audience have on. And like then they come to me and then like after 30 minutes, they're like, I don't feel good about what they said.
Starting point is 00:10:46 It's like, I don't think I fact-checked every question. I'm like, no, no, no, no, that's not the point of this art form. This art form kind of asks you to be who you are as a person and shed this assumption that everything needs to go through this whole like death by procedure. And still in this mindset, they just think that making videos that get published on YouTube, that's the new thing. No, that's not the new thing. The way you operate, that's the new thing.
Starting point is 00:11:14 If you can't get yourself to do that, write copy for a living and write articles. for living. We still need that, but don't try to kind of exist in the same space and bring your old guard mentality into this new platform. And if people don't get it, you call them dumb. It's like, no, they are not dumb. They just expect you to be as something else when you're on YouTube or when you're social media. The Netflix shows, Netflix, they have podcasts now. They're not podcast. They're just a Netflix show. That's somehow a podcast. You know what it is, dude, is what they've done is what Comedy Central did was those are
Starting point is 00:11:48 those are basically weird way pitch pilots they're like okay you got this idea make this tiny little show and we'll see if it at all gets any traction if it gets some traction then we'll bring it to the big boys oh it's a trial run it's a trial one that's masquerading as a podcast
Starting point is 00:12:08 right yeah because I mean if you love podcast and you watch that that's not a podcast can people stomach your face yeah yeah right It's just like, I just don't know why people would go to Netflix to watch a podcast when they watch it on YouTube. I think there has been this bastardization of the category in general. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:26 What's happening right now is a lot of networks, C-suite people are realizing, oh, people like podcasts. I'm like, and then they kind of go through their rigmarole and they realize that like at the end of the day, this is not true, but this is their thinking, which is like, what's the difference between a talk show and a podcast. Not really, right? We just take the ads out. Like, that's pretty much what a podcast is. So let's take a talk show and turn that into a podcast and put that on Netflix. It's like, no, no, no, you have to kind of be more than honest than you are otherwise on Netflix. Can you do that? If not, then it's, I like to call it like the word podcast has become
Starting point is 00:13:06 blue chip now. But at the same time, people like you still think that it has this original Joe Rogan podcast meaning. Well, no, like, The big C-suite industry, they think podcast is a blue-chip thing that they get to do with the Amy Polars of the world. I'm like, no, not really. You can call it a show, I guess, but don't call it a podcast. And it's like for an Amy Poehler, right? She's like the highest end of that. Maybe it could work where it's super scripted.
Starting point is 00:13:38 But that's not going to work with everybody for sure. And it's like those are few and far between. You always have the podcast with the famous person that everyone will check in. But it's really about what you're talking about authenticity. And that's what they can't understand. And because ultimately, the equation doesn't involve them. And that's what they start to come forward. It's like, oh, we don't really need all these people here.
Starting point is 00:14:05 We just need two people in a microphone, one person to microphone, three people to microphone. And then it's about getting it as real as you can to the point of stupid. where it's like you're oversharing, but that's what people want to tune into. And the minute you get a note from a suit, it's not authentic anymore.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Correct. I still remember the day I wanted to kill myself when I realized that Michelle Obama might have a podcast. Or Hillary. Hillary starts one every three weeks. No one's, I don't know what she's killed more of, people or podcast.
Starting point is 00:14:43 The worst is these ones where they're like doing an activity. Did you see like Jake Tapper and Gavin Newsom fly fishing the other day talking about like, will you run if Kamala also runs? But they copied that one black comic who does podcasting while fishing. Well, there's a million different. It was like Kevin Nealyn, right? It was the first that like hike and. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And then. Well, what was really interesting is like Hillary Clinton, Hillary must be just insulated from the world. Well, hers is she murders people while she's podcast. That's what it is. She brings a guy in. She's the first murder podcast where she actually murdered somebody. And at the end, you have to figure out. Could you stop screaming?
Starting point is 00:15:21 I'm trying to talk to Michelle Obama here. That's good. So, but it's like she did that show on Apple that nobody watched. And I could just see comedian. That's a comedian on that. And then a couple of comics go to the UFC 250 to watch what probably was a pretty amazing event to watch. and you had people trying to destroy their careers. And it's like, it's insanity to me.
Starting point is 00:15:48 It's insanity how these, like, you know, these coastal elites act. It's just weird to me, but, you know, it's like, dude, everyone wants to Clintons to do a podcast. It could be the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. Oh, both of them. I got a new podcast. You're like, again, dude. What is this? Don't you get enough attention?
Starting point is 00:16:07 Like, Jesus. Do we need to hear from you anymore, 80-year-old lady? I think the frustrating part here is that they genuinely think that you are so retarded that you won't question it beyond the fact that, oh, it's a podcast. They might be being honest. No, no, no. Like to the fly fishing thing, I will be the forced to tell you. I know zero things about fishing.
Starting point is 00:16:29 But I could tell that flick of the wrist, that doesn't look right. Yeah. Like something looks off there. And like, they don't think that we can't sense the fact that this is all fucking staged. They think you're that dumb. They will just see just because you are dressed in beige with some RIA gear, like, standing needed in a way. We would think that you are just one of us. So dumb.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Do you think we're that dumb? It was like that when Bear Grills would fake being in like an earthquake or, you know, he was like crossing a ravine. And it turns out he's like 10 feet from the freeway. That's what it was like. probably surrounded by a dozen people, Jake Tapper. 100. Well, it's like about what Anderson Cooper, like sitting in a pond, wise cameraman is there and he's like, it's up to my ways. Yeah, because you're sitting Indian style.
Starting point is 00:17:23 What are we talking about here, dude? That's how it is, man. It's unbelievable, dude. And they got away with it for years because it was just so easy to do. People didn't know there was another option. That's why. They didn't know, like, people never went behind the curtain. and they just were trusting of everybody.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I will have a question for you guys, because you guys have existed in, oh my God, yeah. John Tapper? Just a pale white fishing? Yeah, yeah. Man, I just love to do this. I love to be out here. He's looking at his watch.
Starting point is 00:17:55 From you guys' point of view, how frustrating is it now that you guys have to, it's not that you guys obviously have your own audience. Is it frustrating to see all these people come and play in your arena? like these kinds of sending out of touch people trying to get a market share of you guys yeah that's a great question i i'm always like the more the merrier you know because they can't silence all of us right yeah and um i johnny says all the time we've definitely helped our competition more than anybody oh my god a guillian percent yeah just like hey come on okay you know but i don't i i don't know
Starting point is 00:18:34 i don't think we're competing with gavin newsome though yeah you know what that's Anybody who listened to that, you know, it's just, you know, it's just conspiracies are popular right now, and a lot of people are doing it in terms of just YouTube. It's just, you know, the sad part is like, I just wish they would let everyone compete equally, and they'll just never do it. And neither side is coming to save us, the right or the left. They don't want just, you know, open, you know, free for all. They don't want, like, free market.
Starting point is 00:19:07 They don't want any of that stuff. they want to control it from both sides. And so no one's coming to save us. It looks like they've, for some reason, YouTube just gets like, okay, we'll just let the pressure go a little bit and have a little fun, feel like you're doing something with your life and then bang, they'll shut it back down. But outside that, it's like, I think the more the merrier, dude, you know, that's my opinion. Yeah. To a YouTube point, it's so hard to trust these people because I was working in the new space when if you said, one bad word on Facebook, they would trust your tap and like, speak it.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Like, you won't be able to get any click referrals. And Facebook was so strict because I've been working in writer-center media for like a long time now. And a lot of conservative blogs went out of business because the way they would send people to their website, which is via Facebook, they were so strict because a bunch of activists went to Facebook and were mad about the fact that Dan Bonjino and Ben Shapiro were the tippy-toppy people and they were like, oh yeah, these people say funny, bad, mean conservative stuff, let's take them away. And Facebook was like, oh, all right, cool, whatever. And now Mark Zuckerberg just runs around wearing a black tank top and a gold chain. Like one of us or whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:27 For sure. And to your YouTube point, yeah, it's actually right that YouTube is. is like, like, I still remember YouTube circa Trump won and circa COVID. If you said anything, which was like day class A, you will get a demonetization and you're risking your channel. And now it's different, but my question is, I don't think it's a permanent thing because my observation is that a lot of these people, they haven't fundamentally changed what they believe in, meaning a lot of people think that, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Like tech companies, they used to be left. No, they're right. I'm like, no, they just want to stay in power. They just want to make sure they don't get an antitrust lawsuit and they have to break down their power structure. They're just trying to survive the changing winds. So I don't know to what extent it's permanent. I hope it is so. But I have a lot of PTSD from the days when social media used to be a lot more censorious than it is today.
Starting point is 00:21:30 I love what you said there. I think that's really smart. I think YouTube lets the levers, like, releases the pressure when somebody starts to gain ground on their market, like either Rumble or Twitter, when Twitter starts really cooking with gas, YouTube's like, hey, but come on, we let you say crazy stuff too.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And they realize that the market kind of changes. I think that's the only reason they do that is because they're losing market share. If they were at the same market share, they were, you know, at the height of Biden, they would be, you know, at the beginning of Biden, they wouldn't change shit. Hey, guys, listen, man, losing your hair is no, Bueno. Trust me on that.
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Starting point is 00:25:24 they need to bring everybody back into the fold that's what i think happens and that's the only reason because they don't want to create competition. You remember when YouTube really went hard? All of a sudden, all these companies just started popping up. Hey, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, which was really great. But it also kind of hurt them because they took in all these conspiracy theories and it became like super right wing or super like black pill and it scared off all the normies. Now, if you go to Rumble first, you know, you go to Rumble now, they have a bunch of games.
Starting point is 00:25:59 gaming stuff on there. They were smart, dude. You got to get the, you know, the jiggly tit videos and the and the prank videos and the bunny videos and the cat videos to get the normies in. And then, why do you think the view count changed on YouTube? Because it's completely, I mean, they even gave you a little warning where it's like, our view count is different now. Your view, your view count might be up. Why do you think they did that? Just to show that there's more view, more people watching? Because that gives them more ad revenue. Just, yeah, exactly. Just more people watching. Yeah, if more people watch, they can make more money off the ads. I think that's also how the other platforms count views.
Starting point is 00:26:33 They're just kind of updating to those standards because people are another way of avoiding competition, I think. Or subverting the competition. I mean, that was TikTok's whole game. It's like, come over here. You'll get a million views. It was like, everyone, you get a million views, you get a million views, you get a million views. You get a million views. Dude, you get a TikTok view.
Starting point is 00:26:54 If you stand within 10 feet of somebody with the app on their phone, that's a, that's a million. Like it was crazy. My friends would be like, my buddy sold meat. And then the next day he's like, bro, I just had a video going to a million on TikTok. I'm like, how did that happen? And it's just, it's like, dude, and that's how they got everybody over there. Hey, dude, I can get a lot of views over here. I'm doing something.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And it's an addiction. Once you get a million views once, you want to get it over and over and over. So you'll start making just content just to make. And you don't think they love that? Just some random person making. It's so funny. I was talking to Rick from Rumble, Johnny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:33 And, you know, during the whole World War debate thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, real. And I just honestly kept saying, thank you so much. Thank you so much. And he goes, dude, you don't have to say that anymore. I go, you don't understand. I am a beaten dog, okay? I'm a beaten street dog that's gotten shit kicked out of me by all these platforms for so long.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Just think about it, man. I mean, around 2017 is when the hammer drops. That's almost 10 years ago. And for this new thing to be happening where they let me just sing and dance, like this is brand new. This is like freedom. Talk about freedom. I mean, it's like I've never felt this before.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Getting a million views on Twitter, that's nuts. That's crazy. It's happening all the time. I'm like, dude, it's gotten to the point where I'm like, oh, something bad's happening. something bad is coming. This is not supposed to happen, dude. You know what the shame here is. I know a lot of people who have the alternate take on all things news and the current affairs.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And for the longest time, like you said, they were beaten by these big tech companies, by these algorithms because they didn't have the same opinion as Lauren Xavier, Dr. Fauci. and when these people get censored, the shame is that the big media companies, sorry, the big news companies, you know, like journalism news, your job is what? Your job is to protect the First Amendment because the First Amendment literally pays your bills. The First Amendment justifies the existence of the New York Times, of the Washington Post, or the financial time of the Wall Street Journal, of the Fox News, of the CNN. If you tell them that, hey, like some content creator, a lot of these content creators are having. a tough time because they have this opinion which the big tech platform does not like. They're like,
Starting point is 00:29:29 well, tough. I'm like no, no, no. The point is First Amendment. And you guys are so rara about First Amendment. Anytime Trump doesn't give you a question, what about now? You guys don't want to look after the little guy? And the tables have turned right now and they're realizing that these
Starting point is 00:29:45 quote-unquote smaller independent people they are winning right now because they have trained with ankle weights on for the longest time. Yeah. Yeah. And now they have been kind of unshackled to go win. And I'm so glad it's happening. And right now there's a lot of power clutching happening. And you will see
Starting point is 00:30:05 articles like, oh, Nick Fuentes is taking over the kind of like, I don't even care what Fuentes take is. I like the fact that he was beaten like crazy by the entire system on content side and on banking side. And now he is raining free. I honestly don't care what stakes are, I'm just mad that those people, whoever, were just beating down the system by the broader capital S system at large, now they, they're unraigned, and that's good. Because that's like, that's a true meritocracy on the content space right now. Like, whoever does the best stuff wins.
Starting point is 00:30:41 How simple is that? I totally agree. I totally agree. And, you know, you got the left wings or even the, all these big publications, like, during, like, the misinformation era, right, where everything was misinformation, disinformation, and they wanted to lock down people. And probably part of that was, hey, man, these guys are competing with us because we're in a war of attention, right?
Starting point is 00:31:08 We're fighting for everybody's attention to watch our stuff. So if we lock these guys down, that attention will come to us because we'll be the only thing there. And what they didn't realize is people would run and follow them on these other platforms. But then the pendulum swings the other way. And now Jimmy Kimmel's crying about censorship. And, you know, what's his face is gone from late night? Colbert is gone.
Starting point is 00:31:38 And I saw an article that says that Comics Unleash is getting better numbers than he did. I'm not surprised by that at all. Yeah, because it's actually a real, you know, I don't know. Those guys all, they were all just weak sauce, you know. Well, they took something great and they destroyed it. because they couldn't get out of their own way. But then the hammer comes the other way. Which is not like Jay Leno was edgy, though.
Starting point is 00:32:00 And he killed it still. Yeah. Well, he went down the middle. Yeah, that's it. That's why you could get everybody. Now everyone's, you know, on this side or that side. So I love your videos, man. I want to get into, you seem to, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:15 I align very much in that a lot of videos that really pop up in my feet is you go kind of after this trust fund kid pandemic we have going on right now. And I say this all the time, Hollywood is drowning in trust fund kids. It's a sea of like-mindedness, hive-mind activity. And no one is checking anybody on like, dude, that's crazy stuff you're saying. And, you know, to not conform is a war crime. It's a capital punishment in Los Angeles, and they'll excommunicate you if you don't have hive mind. And you've been talking a lot about this, but like, I would love to hear kind of like what you've learned lately or over your journey to kind of diving into the Bolsheviks, diving into, you know, all the different, like rich kids just cosplaying liberators, dude.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Like, I really love your research on that. Yeah, yeah. Before, before, before I get into the latter half of it, the reason. That topic interests me because when I first moved to D.C., I'm an outsider, meaning I'm, my parents don't come from money. My parents are not in journalism. Most people who work in journalism, here's to get a quick context. Like, why do you think most people in journalism and in media, meaning like in TV, feels so mediocre? And the reason is the following.
Starting point is 00:33:43 The people who get to work in news and the people who basically file copies, like the random headlines, you see on the third paper on the third page of New York Times, their parents have a lot of money. Meaning, the only people who can afford a journalism internship or a journalism job and live in a big city are the kids of rich parents. And the reason is, you know, like journalism doesn't pay a lot of money. And the only people who will take that chance is are the kids of parents who can, like, foot their bill. Like if daddy who lives in Greenwich, Connecticut, who has a private equity job, he can take care
Starting point is 00:34:18 of the rent. Oh, I'm going to go get this job. in a liberal blog in Washington, D.C. That only pays me 40K a year in a tier A city. So that's how you end up getting a never-ending entourage of rich trust-funded kids. Yes, dude. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:34:52 only the ones who can afford to take that first hit of getting through the door, which is why there is this particular mindset. There's this people are like, oh, why is there a bubble? Like, why do all these people think that? Because they all come from this one background. So that's why there's a selection bias to begin with. So that's one. And I think to some extent that it also applies in Hollywood, because the people who have to take these like jobs in the beginning, of like in the writer's room or whatever. Like some people are truly prudentialed and are truly talented.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I know that and a lot of talented people never get their start because a lot of nevartistic people cut the line. Everybody knows that. I'm not breaking in any. So there is definitely an aspect of that. And the added problem and where there is a lot of malice
Starting point is 00:35:43 if I have to go that far is when these people convince the broader public that their take is the working class take because they're struggling. I'll give an example. I'm pretty sure you guys have seen the subway takes show of this guy, Korean. Yeah, sure have.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I'm pretty sure you guys have thoughts about it. I'd love to know that. But I saw him in this video where he's like, we're not liberal, we're not conservative. I don't think of myself as like an elitist thing because a lot of, quote, working class comedians are on my show who are just trying to pay the bills. And they're working class people, just like there's a working class factory guy in Ohio. So we don't think ourselves as like this way or that way. I'm like, buddy, like, it doesn't really matter that the comedian is struggling to pay the bill.
Starting point is 00:36:41 It matters that all of these people who you are talking to work in one kind of job in one city and they defaults to having the most elitist transplanty take ever. The fact that they are living in a shoebox struggling to pay the bills, I mean, I sympathize with that, figure it out, but your take is still the take of every West Village gal ever. So it doesn't really make a lot of difference what your bank statement is, as long as the fact that your sample size is still the elitist New York City take, which is fine, have that, but then don't pretend to be the working class take or the everyday
Starting point is 00:37:24 American take because it is not. My problem with them is this hypocrisy, this veneer of we are the everyman's take. Like when Zoran says that we are the working, no, you're not. This is just a very specific rich kid city thing who were promised the world and they did not get it for different reasons we can get into. But they pretend to be this one thing and their parents have paid the bills and my problem is that you guys are just like rich kids for whom the life didn't turn out the weight was promised and that's sad whatever like to figure it out but don't pretend to be working class no i i completely agree with that it's and i got into something with him on the internet because he said you know it was a weird quote he's like you know i don't i'm not going to really
Starting point is 00:38:08 i'm paraphrasing it because i just can't remember the exact quote but it was along the lines of we're not going to have a plumber electrician on it it wouldn't help his career. And I go, having a plumber electrician on a very popular show wouldn't help him get more work. Like, that's crazy to me. And then he has, and then he has, Joe, I mean, um, uh, J-Lo on. He has J-Lo on. And J-Lo is associated with sex trafficking.
Starting point is 00:38:39 And she's, she's associated with getting rid of a weapon using a murder. Yeah. And like, if anybody. else have done that. Nobody would be touching that with a 10 foot pole. But again, you know, he has these people on and they, you know, it just seems out of touch. I have no problems with the guy, but those two things like drove me crazy. That actually says a lot. So like, first of all, J.L, I mean, I mean, I don't know, she has more rings than Tom Brady. I think that's more than a lot of the points. But I think I think J.O said something along the lines of like what it means
Starting point is 00:39:15 to be a true New Yorker. I'm like the JOL. The moment she made like, I don't know, like money, like she fled in New York because it was two-day class A and she lives in LA, which is fine, but then don't pretend to know like the woes of the working class New Yorker. That's one. And two, to the carpenter point, there's a very specific reason why a Karim Rama or subway take can never have a carpenter on his show because they might say something which doesn't cut the norm of what it means to be a New Yorker small L liberal. They will say things like, yeah, what is this guys? Do you guys not have jobs or something like that?
Starting point is 00:39:52 They will say the most absurd thing ever to them, which would be very absurd, and that won't pass the smell to the stuff being on the show. And they will have takes like, you know, people, like normal people in the middle of the country do, and that would not make the cut for Kareem Rama. And that's why he can't have them on, not because they're not working class, this or that. That's a lot of cope. Obviously, it will help some random carpenter or some plumbers career if they were on a really successful Instagram short-form show, which is, God bless, I respect success.
Starting point is 00:40:22 But to say that it won't help a carpenter's career, that's just bullshit. I'm sorry. And yeah, I think there's so much of this cope. Like, yeah, yeah, we are stand-up comedians. We're struggling. We're still working class. It can be true, but at the same time, you guys are all in this one bubble. And because of being in a bubble, you have the takes.
Starting point is 00:40:41 of this bubble, which is fine, once again, but don't pretend to be there, every man. It also comes down to along the lines of, like, choosing to be broke, meaning like, the starving artist thing, when, you know, your parents could use you into jobs, and then actually being broke, right? Where, like, there's no safety net. There's nothing that if you fall, miss a payment, nobody's come to save you. You can cosplay, like, you can cosplay poor people. You can wear, like, trucker hats and dirty jeans and hang out in some hipster bar and be like,
Starting point is 00:41:21 wo is me? Common people, yeah. I want to be like common people. Yeah, look at me. I'm a common person. With up a beer, they're drinking. Yeah, I mean, it's old Milwaukee, Papp's Blue Ribbon. Like, that's a sign.
Starting point is 00:41:30 But at the end of the day, you know the net is always there. And you're doing this because you can and not because you have to. Correct. Like to put more color on that, so a lot of these people, and I know this exact archetype, like you go into any bushwick bar, you will see guys and gals were dressed like they are some farmer's daughter and with cowboy boots and trucker hats on. And they live in kind of a grungy apartment by Marta Lav. And eventually you find out that their pops runs a private equity firm and they live in Greenwich and they are just having their rebellious phase and living like the rest of the country. Yeah. And that's the archetype. But the problem is the politics they have and the positions they espies, that puts a lot of people's lives in jeopardy, a lot of normal people's lives who live in New York City and
Starting point is 00:42:29 they have bills to pay and they have working class jobs. And those kids, they then speak for those people. and then if things go away, they can just pack their backs and their parents and they can't just all right, cool, it didn't work out, I'm done so. But the people who have to go and work in New York City and go through business cycles,
Starting point is 00:42:52 go through gubernatorial cycles, go through changing legislations, go through taxes going up and down, business coming and going, they are stuck there. And they're facing the consequences of the politics that you pushed, and you pushed,
Starting point is 00:43:06 And you push because it fits your lifestyle and it fits your social class. We didn't ask for it. You're pretending to be one of us. And that's the problem. Like they have this storefront experience of we are just one of you guys. And we will speak for you guys. No one said that. No one asked you to do it.
Starting point is 00:43:26 No one asks you to do that. Like talk to anyone who lives like above like I don't know like Manhattan. There are a lot of normal New Yorkers who live upstate. they are quite mad and quite frustrated about the state of affairs, and they don't be represented because they're not the most vocal people. Yes. Yeah, well, I mean, it's also how many, so many people on the left have untraditional families.
Starting point is 00:43:50 You know, they don't really have anything else to put their identity into. So they put their identity into politics, and it just becomes who they are. It's their brand. And they just cry for the craziest stuff possible. and it also gets to, you know, when you see somebody you knew when they were kind of down here and then they're up here, very few people go from down here to up here to conservative, at least publicly. Maybe privately they do that.
Starting point is 00:44:20 They have a family that. They're like, dude, this stuff's getting out of control. But I'm working in Hollywood and show business. I'm going to shut my mouth. But the ones who go from here to here and are very vocal, they always come progressive. It's funny. I think that's true in Hollywood, but in business, I don't. I think the opposite is true. I know I've known many people who have were when we were kids,
Starting point is 00:44:39 we're all super liberals in college and stuff. And then once they started making money and had families and saw how much tax comes up. Yeah, I guess it depends on what part of the country you are. Maybe so. Maybe. And what part, what business you're in, right? You know. Because there's no consequence to it in most business. There's no consequence to become a conservative in the South. Yeah, it's probably encouraged. But in Hollywood, there is a major consequence. Yeah. It's the blackball you. And that's a big. reason why you see all these guys suddenly yelling and screaming progressive stuff is because they know some casting director or some producers going to Google them and they want to hear
Starting point is 00:45:14 the most retarded take you could get because that means you're part of the team so that's why they go out there and they say absolutely ridiculous shit that they know maybe isn't true or was the 180 from what they used to say when nobody knew who they were because they know they're watching and they want to be a team player. Gavin Newsom is such a great fly fisher. Oh my God. I think I think two things can be true at once. One is in most of the country, a lot of normal people, you know, go through the stages of their lives and eventually end up leaning more conservative, more right, once they have a business and a family. And the reason is very simple, which is now you have skin in the game. Now you have something to lose. So they will go out of their way to espies for policies that. protects those things. That doesn't like born it all down because now you have a kid, you have a business. So you want to kind of defend those things and being more at a center
Starting point is 00:46:13 turns out to kind of trickle down into politics and live reality, which takes care of the family and the business. And on the other hand, to the same's point, if those same people are in the kind of jobs, which is, you know, public facing, our entertainment facing, journalism, fashion, whatever. And there is a click. There is a way of being. You can have a lot of money and have a business to protect,
Starting point is 00:46:42 but at the same time, you need to get invited to the right parties and the right dinners and shake the right hands and have the right agents. And to fit in those circles, you need to have the most
Starting point is 00:46:53 vanilla Hillary Clinton, pansuit, neoliberal take ever. And if you fall from the line, you might not get the deal which you otherwise could have gotten. And those two things can be Twitter. Yes, I agree. One thing that, what am your, my favorite videos of yours is when you discuss that the revolution very rarely comes from the poor.
Starting point is 00:47:21 It comes from the lower upper class. Can you go into that? Sure, sure. So, so revolutions are started by overall. educated, underpaid people throughout the history. If you look at the Chinese Revolution, if you look at the French Revolution, in all of these places, revolutions are an elite versus elite activity. So I'll paint your picture. In China and in France, there were a lot of rich kids, all the lawyers, people who are supposed to have big positions in government in the
Starting point is 00:48:02 legal world who were promised that by the system and then they realized that the world is changing, the economy is changing and they did not get what they were promised. And they have grievances and they collectivize within those same click of people and they together rise up against the broader power system because they were denied of what the world promised them. It happened in France. It happened in China. I have been in India.
Starting point is 00:48:37 It happened in Iran to some extent. And the same thing is happening right now. And the mistake that we make is that we think that it's a bottom-up working-class revolution. No, it's not. The working class is more often than not way too busy with their day-to-day life. They're not thinking of upending the power system, upending capitalism. They don't even know what the word capitalism means.
Starting point is 00:49:05 They just want a job that pays the bills and they want to enjoy their weekends. So they don't have the vocabulary, the energy, the system, and the energy to kind of collectivize and unionize and all this stuff. They just like want to do a good job and want to pay bills and want to hang out with their family. So these people, these rich kids who were quote unquote deny their destiny, they kind of go and talk to them and be like, hey, you got to go rise up. You got to go rise up, come with us, basically become our foot soldiers, and we will come together and take power from the capitalists of the world. I will give you an example. So the way New York City's quote-unquote working class revolution is working right now is there are a lot of these rich kids. And I've covered this.
Starting point is 00:49:53 And this is not my original reporting. So I have to give credit to people in New York Post and Manhattan Institute. they find out that any time there's a big vocal DSA leader, DSA Democratic Socialists of America, like the same party where Zoran came from, a lot of their leadership, they all have rich parents. And the commonality here is that they're also like second generation immigrant kids, meaning like their parents maybe came from Cuba or India and they worked hard and then they built their life here, whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:28 And the kids, they kind of have this dual mandate of having to be a quote-un-un-quote minority, but then also deal with the fact that my parents basically did the whole struggle and the American dream and now basically I have to figure out what my life is. So they have this weird struggle. And that's like Zoran is the perfect case study for that. But anyway, they are the face of the movement, right? and they then go and recruit a lot of, I'm sorry to say it like this, like white underperforming people like in colleges who kind of are like, yeah, I didn't get a job.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Oh yeah, like I can't pay the bills. Oh yeah, like I'm from Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I came to New York to get this PM job and it didn't work out. Maybe I need to do something about it. And instead of going on working on your resume and starting a side business and trying to make ends meet, they will join DSA and they will collectivize together and then they will recruit the random mom in Harlem who barely speaks English and is a Cuban immigrant and be like come join our working class revolution and she's like what the fuck like sounds like that will make me help my help pay my bill so I'll come join
Starting point is 00:51:39 so this becomes a harsh part of people but at the end of the day the top down is the bunch of rich kids who have grievance against the broader capitalistic prop system and maybe we can talk about that But my issue is that they pretend to know the working class was when they don't have a callus in their hand. They haven't worked with their hands ever. So you don't know anything about being a working class. You just are making less money than you were promised and you also have college debt, which, by the way, I sympathize with. But don't append the system to fix that problem. Yeah, you know, they want a flamethrower just to help themselves.
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Starting point is 00:53:19 It's like that's why you are, who you are, and where you're allowed to be, you're allowed to just wander through the fields of wheat, just on a sunny day, just trying to come up with a purpose for your life because you're so set. You were born into the best hospitals, into private, then you lived in a gated community, then you went to a private school, and then you got into an Ivy League school and got an internship and it just it's always been juice dude and like you that sucks for you that's what they think and here's the thing like i'm not gaslighting the broader gen z like i'm 30 i know for a fact that gen z are jenzy struggling and there are actual economic issues that we need to work on
Starting point is 00:54:07 but you don't fix dandrop with decapitation you don't burn the whole thing down like there are piece in the micro that we can do to fix these problems. Like capitalism and the broader American story is not the problem here. The problem is like after NAFTA, after Clinton, we did a lot of bad things. Meager we signed the whole country away to the broader private equity class, the fifth half class, and their jobs went away. And I can talk about that. And we can fix those problems if we are being very specific and targeting particular
Starting point is 00:54:44 industries and making specific policy changes. But to say random shit about like how the founders were this and that and the country doesn't deserve to be what it is today and let's open the borders because this country is a colonial superpower which like no, no, no, no. Let's just stick with the basics and fix the micro problems by being specific. But that takes too much hard work and that takes too much policy work. It's way more easy to just cry racist, cry rich man bad and then pretend to be like some i don't know working class hero like i have a problem with that core yeah it's interesting too because they they always pick topics where there's no real end zone and the goal line keeps moving so like i can fight climate change fully knowing that that will
Starting point is 00:55:33 never probably see a resolution and i could fight that for i can fight racism fully knowing that it's never been defined what winning against racism looks like or or any kind of prejudice at all. Those are wonderful windmills for me and my donkey to battle because I, there's no actual way to say I won. It just goes on forever and ever, never, never, never, never. And that gives me purpose. It's like homelessness in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:56:04 You know, the day we fixed racism was the day NFL wrote and racism. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. And racism. Colin Kaepernick, he did it all. He did it all. Now that guy's going after his, the parent, well, he did before, but the guy's going after his adopted parents. I'm like, because they're white?
Starting point is 00:56:23 Yeah. Okay. And they're racist. I'm like, bro, they adopted you, dude. They picked you. Why are they racist? I mean, he's just got a brand and he's riding into the ground, dude. He's just riding in the ground.
Starting point is 00:56:38 So, like, what do you think the future holds, man? is it just do you do you think like these cities like new york l a san francisco are just going to become like hellscapes and like saying people are going to get out move to the small city and then you know you'll you'll choose the big city for the action and you just know you have flock cameras on you everywhere getting you know you got to have your vax card just to get carl's junior you got to show your vaccine just to eat like shit right uh no no cars no drivers in cars, just robots being driven by Filipinos in the Philippines smashing into each other. Like, what do you think the future looks like?
Starting point is 00:57:23 I think for a lot of young people, the whole thing about I'm going to move to a new city and kind of go through the motion, struggle, and then figure it out, get three, four jobs to pay the bill. I think that's going to get tougher and tougher as the cities will only be exclusive. towards the type of people we talked about people who can afford that rent because their parents are taking care of half the check. I think that will get hotter and hotter in the coastal cities. That is not to say that young people will have a tougher time in other locales. Like here's something that I still don't have an answer to, but I'm actually thinking about a lot. There might be a broader conversations around, hey, we might have to question our priors that a young person after they
Starting point is 00:58:18 graduate college, they have to move to the big cities to get a fancy schmancy job. Like, maybe it's going to be Nashville. Maybe it's going to be Austin. Maybe it's going to be Denver. Maybe it's going to be Arizona. Maybe it's going to be like a T or C city. I think there needs to be a lot of conversations about that because we need to make it a lot easier for young people to go through the zero to one, like get their first job and be able to take
Starting point is 00:58:41 care of rent. So I am bearish on the fact that New York City and like I live in the East Coast, I'll just speak for the city. New York City will still have its gates open for the young up-and-comer person whose parents do not have a lot of money. It will get harder and harder for them. That doesn't mean the crowd will get thinned out because New York City is awesome and people will always want to move here. So you will only get the people who can afford the $5,000 rent for a one-bedroom in Manhattan. And that's a shame because you keep getting that same class of people. By class, I don't mean rich.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I mean the people who think like that. You will never get the grungy punk rock scene. And New York City was supposed to be like that. And the shame is that it will turn into somewhat of a Dubai situation. And that's just a shame. I don't want that. like I have nothing against Dubai or whatever. But if you go there, you will meet them,
Starting point is 00:59:44 you will meet a lot of rich people, but it's just soulless. Like, I don't care. It's just like tall, shiny buildings surrounded by a desert. Like, I don't want New York City to be that. I want New York City to be like... You're totally right, dude. The character.
Starting point is 00:59:55 And it's like... The character, the makeup. Like, you have story... Like, you will sit next to someone at a bar in New York City and back in the day, you might get someone who has the funkiest story ever. And maybe he's served. came here, started a business, got some wins, and he does cocaine, get this and that.
Starting point is 01:00:15 You won't get that personality. You will just keep getting the Rebecca's of the world whose dad has a lot of money. I don't want that level of homogeneity in New York City. And it's just boring. It's the death of art. It's just death of art. And for people like you, especially like, like, I want like New York City to be open for like the Sam 30 years ago.
Starting point is 01:00:41 It should be an incubator for those kind of people. Otherwise, like, what are we doing? Like, what are we doing? Like, we have the billionaires where people from Russia and some Uzbekis, I don't fucking know. They come and park their money. And the whole real estate market is inflated because of that. And also a lot of structural problems because we don't build a lot.
Starting point is 01:01:03 We have shitty zoning. So a confluence of bad policy decisions and only being. open for business for the richest people will kind of keep cutting out that young person who has a lot of potential, who could be the next big artist. But now, like, you know, like they don't have a lot of money because they're 21 years old. They just graduated from, I don't know, like Carnegie Mellon or whatever. And they're coming in to like figure it out. Like, no, you cannot just like bus tables and do art on the side and make it in New York. I mean, you can. You might have to live way deep in Queens or Bronx or whatever and can come to Manhattan.
Starting point is 01:01:41 It will keep getting harder and harder and harder for that specific type of people. And I really care about those people because I was that guy, like when I was 19, when I first moved to the States and I lived in D.C. And I bused tables. And I was just trying to figure it out on how to get a job in journalism. And I like that person will have a harder job and it's a shame. And it's also that like if you push out all the outlaws, Okay. You lose a lot of your culture because culture is pushed by crazy people. Like people who just see the world different. They take chances.
Starting point is 01:02:20 And, you know, I don't know what it is about trust fund kids, but, you know, they somewhat hate their dads. But they, man, they conform like a motherfucker, dude. Like, it's just bend over backwards conformity. And it's like what I've been saying about L.A. Schooling. Yeah. Well, my friend said this a long time ago. He goes, you know what? You want to know who runs Hollywood? Trust fund kids, dude.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Private school kids. My issue with those people, my issue with trust fund kids is not that they're rich. My issue with them is that they're boring. That's what I'm saying. It's it becomes, boring. Like the, so, so you, you brought up a good thing about pricing people out. So there's this show now in L.A. It's like the biggest show, basically ripped off my show.
Starting point is 01:03:04 I'll say that right here. But it's like, it's, it's, it's, basically has like a la la la pluzo of comedy lineup every time it's up. And the cheapest ticket is like $100. And that's that's GA. And then it goes all the way up, right? What you've done, and it's all the progressive comedians playing together,
Starting point is 01:03:29 and they all kumbaya, and they're doing their fun, you know, rage against machine, but I'm really like just doing corporate, talking points, you know. And they're all funny. Listen, I'm not saying they're not funny.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Some of them are my friends. They're funny. It's just the same shit. It's all the same shit. Yeah, you laugh out loud. It's McDonald's, dude. It's really just junk food. It's like got no substance to it.
Starting point is 01:03:57 But the point of this is, is these are all these Hollywood progressive comics who just hate, you know, oppression and hate all this stuff. yet they're on a show where you have to have money to be able to afford to go. So once again, you've priced out the middle class and the lower class who need to laugh, you know, because they're grinding, dude. You know what I'm saying? So once again, in your attempt to, like, just create this utopia of group think,
Starting point is 01:04:29 you've priced out normal people. Like, if you think about it, and another sin of that whole ecosystem is, since there are tickets and prices and you have to have money to be able to put your butt on a seat in one of those theaters, you will only get the rich people who already have those takes. So no one is actually getting their viewpoints challenged. It's all performing for each other. I'm not, I don't know, if I'm some private equity wife going to one of those shows, I'm just going there to get a laugh out of the things that I already.
Starting point is 01:05:07 believe in. And the reason I think about pre-COVID or like during COVID, and I always like to think about like, why did people like Shulls and Tim Dillon kind of blow up out of nowhere? I mean, no one, not nowhere, like because they were putting their work for a while. But that's because short form made that form of comedy a lot more accessible. And also, they were really clutch. So there needs to be a version of that. Like something, it's really easy to make content accessible in the world of like media on your on your pockets and on YouTube but in the world of atoms in the real world it's getting tougher and tougher to make art and comedy and sports accessible to the median American person I mean do you remember Andrew Schultz um COVID little videos
Starting point is 01:05:59 where he had you turn it around and you remember that was great and he was the first one who did it during COVID and you would turn your camera around and then you would actually watch it like it was on TV and you had these monologues and I mean I don't know why he stopped doing them they were great for a cool man I will give you this story and I really like this kid um that came out wrong um uh when I when I first moved to New York City and I was starting a podcast uh trying to interview a lot of people who work in these behind the scenes inside our baseballie jobs and I reached out to this kid his name is Shifty who was Andrew, who still is, Andrew Schultz's video editor.
Starting point is 01:06:40 He has such a good story, didn't go to college. He bombarded Andrew Schultz and his producer with a bunch of short-form edits of his stand-up comedy with like cool captions, cool cuts, music, this and that animation, after effects, Pramute Pro stuff. And Schultz eventually was like, yeah, come on over, we'll figure something out. And he came to New York City and he grinded, lived in Brooklyn, and he became Sholez Shultz's lead editor and also the editor who helped Shultz edit his Netflix special. I love those kind of stories, and my thing is that New York City will get harder and harder to live in for those kind of kids.
Starting point is 01:07:19 And to your editing point, that time was the first time when we saw, like now it's kind of pretty commonplace, but it felt really novel to see stand-up comedy distributed like that. And also he did really good job with the monologues, kind of challenging what John Oliver hit that guy, they do for a living. So a lot of points there, but I still think to put a bow on it, at the end of the day, like these studio owners, these theater owners, all these fancy, powerful people, they know that they will still keep on making money because America is so rich, America is so dynamic. There always will be a class of people who can,
Starting point is 01:08:06 pay the tippy-top-di-le-level of money to go watch the regular season NFL game with, I don't know how much the tickets are these days. But that doesn't mean that everyday Americans are being served. So you are just creating a bunch of zombies who you are now depriving out of the one monoculture we have, which is sports and comedy. Yeah, I agree. Didn't they talk about like, I don't know if you saw this, but a bunch of stadiums weren't that full for football, NFL?
Starting point is 01:08:36 because the prices are out of control. I didn't see that, but it makes sense. Out of control, man. And it's just like pricing people out. It's not just that. It's the concessions too. Like every, the parking around everywhere is just incomprehensibly pricey,
Starting point is 01:08:54 especially in L.A., like parking. We've talked about it. I mean, can you take your family to a baseball game as like a regular 9 to 5 family? I was thinking about taking my daughter. Can't take your family to a movie, much less a baseball game. No, I took my daughter to see like Super Mario's like over 50 bucks.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Like, what are we doing, dude? Just one daughter to a movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like I, it would be. $50 just for the tickets, not even for like the concessions. Right. You can spend easily, you got two kids, you could spend $120. And when they know it's kids, they fleece even more.
Starting point is 01:09:28 But I want to get in some. With all those popcorn buckets and stuff, yeah, dude. They sell toys at the movie theater now. Why? Why do. you think that rich kids are so attracted to socialism, Marxism, communism? What is it about it that just gets them all excited? I think it's a cocktail of events. One is the education system in this country has been a gateway for these ideas because if you take a poll of
Starting point is 01:10:08 all the professors and all the biggest schools, it's 75% if not more liberal, progressive. So the ground is very fertile for these kind of ideas. That's one. Two is, yes, they have a, they have the right, they have, they're coming after the right problem, but with a very bad solution. And the problem is right, which is what we talked about, which is like things are getting expensive and we have to do something about it. That's two. And three, which is the broader cultural point is there's nothing that sounds better than Marxism. There's nothing that sounds
Starting point is 01:10:49 better than socialism that we have to take care of each other, this and that. And it's not that it's a bad idea, but it's a bad idea when you're applying it to how the government should treat its country. Like, I don't have family, I don't have wife for kids, but if I did, I will be very communist and very socialistic with my family. My money is my wife's money is my kid's money. Why am I making money so that I can feed my kids? Like my money
Starting point is 01:11:15 will literally put my kids through school, meaning I'm being a communist leader with my family. It's good. And it works because it's my family and I care about these people because I have the same values as these people and these people are also my blood. So it works. Communism works.
Starting point is 01:11:31 But as you scale out, like there's a saying like you're a communist in your family, your socialist in your community, you're capitalist in your country, right? So as you go bigger and bigger and bigger, you have less in common with people. So you cannot be like, oh, yeah, your money's my money,
Starting point is 01:11:47 my money is your money. You need a different system. And that system that works the best is capitalism, which is a voluntary exchange of services and goods and money. If you want to do business with me, you get money, and I get the service. Like, that's a pretty good way to do it. And I will do that business
Starting point is 01:12:02 with a white guy, a black guy, an Indian guy, whatever, I don't care because the exchange is services and money, regardless of who we are as people, what we believe in, what religion we are. So that's what capitalism works at scale. Socialism and communism doesn't work at scale, especially in America with 350 million people with God knows how many religion with a lot of people who are here illegally. So of course, it's not going to work because there's nothing in common. People will keep pointing in Denmark and Sweden like, oh, it works. Yeah, because it's all white Christians with blue eyes. they don't mind paying God knows how much for tax because they have so much in common with each other.
Starting point is 01:12:39 So they're like, yeah, I don't care paying for his health care. Like, because yeah, I have so much in common with these people. In America, that's never going to happen because we have nothing in common with each other, which is its own different problem. But to go back to the rich kids, like, it's a cope. It's a cope. Like, it's a cope. And for rich kids, especially, it's a way of revolting.
Starting point is 01:12:58 It's a way of, there's an actual organization. I'm forgetting the name whose job is. to go to people who inherited a lot of money from rich parents and they convinced those people to spend it on progressive causes. And I will, I should look it up right now. And they take their money and they basically pour it into capital to progressive, actual political movement that then affect our political conversation. So there is concerted efforts.
Starting point is 01:13:31 This is not like a vibes thing that I try to do. This is an actual thing that goes on in the cities where a lot of rich kids with guilt and that guilt comes from the fact that they did not make their own money. Like they have been handed this money. I don't know what that feels like because my parents pass me zulch, a pair of socks. So like those people, they have this guilt and they need something to do with that guilt and that something becomes I'm going to take care of everyone with my communist platform. But the problem is you're also taking my tax dollars. Yeah, they don't understand how it gets paid for. Like when Mendonny balanced the budget in New York City,
Starting point is 01:14:10 where he doesn't tell you is that New York State gave them $10 billion to balance the budget. It's coming from somewhere. It's coming from somewhere. I think a big part of it is that they realize they can't compete in a marketplace of ideas. Either they're not good looking enough, strong enough, fast enough, creative enough. So the best way to do that is to try to change the system so it plays your strengths. I say that all the time, man. People on a world that plays their strengths and outlaws their weaknesses.
Starting point is 01:14:43 They can't compete. They realize they can't compete. Maybe they were the second brother or the third brother and they always got their ass kicked by their older brothers and they realize they're not that guy. They want to change the system. And again, maybe they think it's never going to really change. They can just kind of get off on trying to act like they're trying to initiate change and make college girls go, ooh, you know, like just there could be other alternatives,
Starting point is 01:15:09 but it's so crazy to me that we are, we have this movement with the DSA of just like actual crazy people. And the problem, go out. You know, that and like the way they do it and the way they convince you that they keep you a pallet cleanser off like no racism, like no. transphobia and all that stuff. Like that becomes your palate cleanser, which helps them softland these like truly deteriorating economic policies. Because if you only talk about economic policies, sometimes people might not pay attention. But if you couch that in broader
Starting point is 01:15:49 conversations around Trump is bad, ISIS bad, this and that, it becomes very easy for that specific cohort, that rich 20-something kid, to swallow. those ideas because they might not think socialism as the policy that takes other people's money and gives it to God knows who. They might think it is just the second order policy of being okay with every race, being okay with immigration, this and that. They think that it's part of that same thought, but it's not really. But they are, they being like the broader DSA and the Zoranov at all, they're doing a really good job of packaging it together and putting a bow on it with this is for all of America and working class people, and we are here to kind of save the
Starting point is 01:16:39 downtrodden guy. It is crazy to me how, you know, words can be more dangerous than actions, right? Like, politically incorrect is more dangerous than crimes. We're seeing it in these, and I don't know what stories are real and what stories are real, what stories aren't real. I don't have time to fact check every single. story but you know when you find some like a black man stabs a white guy and then afterwards he says the M word and the jury lets that off like being mean is a capital punishment now right that like words are scarier than actions it's a crazy world we live in it's a crazy world and it's like I don't know how to fix it it just seems like we're going down this Bolshevik revolution right now
Starting point is 01:17:28 that I don't know how to stop it you have you know they don't say that saying anymore what is it sticks and stones I'm gonna I say it's that gone all the time yeah okay yeah because that's still real my daughter my daughter said oh that that's a mean thing to say I go so so what it's not nice big deal we don't care you know it's like sometimes you're to hear things that you don't like and it doesn't mean you have to have a meltdown about it okay right sometimes people say mean things get over it get over it get over it.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Punch them. Honestly, my nephew, they tell him, like, if something messes with, you just, I hit him right here. Dude, I don't want to say it's a joke. I don't know. I don't want to piss anyone off. But I tell my daughter, man, you got to learn the fight, man. Because you're going to high school and black chicks are going to fuck you on, dog.
Starting point is 01:18:19 You got to learn the fucking fight, dude. They fight like falopter raptors, dude. They'll come from the side of clip you, dude. I'm like, I'm dead serious. We got to learn the fight here, dude. I've been watching black chicks rag down on white girls on Twitter. I'm like, dude, you know, You've got to figure it out, man.
Starting point is 01:18:34 I mean, but, you know, that might be politically incorrect to say to a six-year-old. But, you know, you got to get her ready. I'm prepping these kids. Eight out of ten times the black chick wins. Yeah. Because her friend comes from the signed clip show. It's a flopter after. It's not fair.
Starting point is 01:18:49 It's not fair. Yeah, it's a crazy time, dude. It's a crazy time. And these, it's just like all these, all these hate laws are coming out. It's nuts. And then this. Sometimes I feel like. Like I've seen all the crazy and then something like Lindsay Clancy happens.
Starting point is 01:19:06 And I'm like, and I'm like, I was like, what? And I was talking to a friend of my last night and she was like, you should be a really good feminist and strangle your kids. I think that's that advice around. Like the way to be a good feminist is just like kill your kids and everyone will just like be okay with it. Because I don't know, there's some broader feminist vibe to it. And like wards are so powerful right now that act. actions, like the worst thing that you can do just gets like shelved because it has the packaging
Starting point is 01:19:40 of like feminism. Like what is going on? And maybe I'm still yet to know how much crazier people can get. But yeah, I mean, the more you know, I guess. I don't know. I don't want to know what's worse in strangling your kids. Like whatever's after that is really scary, dude. Like I don't want.
Starting point is 01:19:58 I mean, like if I would have told you, you guys are all younger than me. You know, if I would have gone back 20 years and told people in 2026, men don't want to have sex, and women don't want to have kids, and they're trying to argue they should be able to strangle their kids. People go, you're nuts. And I go, no, dude, I'm living. It's literally from 20, like, can I stay here? And then the bubble pulls me back in, back to 2026. And I would have been like, oh, you mean abortions?
Starting point is 01:20:27 No. And you would have been like, no, like actually strangled the fucking kids. But the question is, how much of it is real? Like when you see in the back of it, not that the crime didn't commit, but the outrage everywhere, how much of it is real when you see, like, Abra-Cadabra behind there? I mean, why is Abra-Cadabra in the courthouse? Who's like, dude, who left their magic tricks around here? Just put it in the corner, we just got this case real quick.
Starting point is 01:20:53 Just have to be a chick who choked out her kids, not to be making light of that. But, like, why is that box that says abracadabra? in the fucking courthouse. Why is that there? Why is everybody going nuts? You know, we have the Patriot front and everyone's, I have very smart friends of mine
Starting point is 01:21:10 arguing that this is a real movement. When the guy who's the leader was in Charlottesville, what's it called? Charlesville. Charlottesville. Charlottesville. He gets arrested for that
Starting point is 01:21:22 and then he cops a deal. And we know Charlottesville was funded by the Southern Poverty Law Center. not only were they funding, but they were banging Nazis, dude. Like, literally banging Nazis did. Like, what are we doing? We should try to join to see if it's real. That's what we should do.
Starting point is 01:21:40 No, you see the chick who was banging? You don't want to join that movement. And who started the group? Who was the first girl who was like, let's all wear pink? Like, that's a sly op. Someone must have started that little group. Dude, you've been running shows, and you actually do pretty good with getting... How hard is it to get anyone to show up to a show?
Starting point is 01:21:57 Because the traffic or what other excuse do you want me to tell you? Yeah, yeah. There's always some reason why someone didn't do something. Like for Halloween, we all try to dress up during Halloween. Yeah. There's always one dumb ass that didn't get a text on what we're supposed to dress up at. Yeah. So it's like you get 200 people in there.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Now coordinate dressing the same, walking the same, choreography the same. Right? Just like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like, try getting that shit going, dude. It's impossible. And then you just believe they all show up marching in perfect order, all dressed to the T's. Like, what are we talking about here? It's just crazy to me.
Starting point is 01:22:36 So the reason I bring that up is like, why wouldn't they do this with this pink army? Why wouldn't this be just be a giant group of people paid agitators to come start a fight between the right and left men and women? I mean, it could be. But like, regarding the race and the SPLC thing, I think the broader observation is, at some point the demand of racism surpassed the supply of racism Yes, that is so great, dude
Starting point is 01:23:09 that was great. That was so smart, dude. There's not enough racism to go around for everyone who wants to cry about racism. It's like women on tender, basically. Racism today. So they had to ask for a bunch of Nazis to kind of help their cause.
Starting point is 01:23:29 So I don't know to what extent that same logic can apply. Do the Lindsay Clancy thing because there hasn't been, I don't know if there's like an SBL-C-esque behavior for the SBLC-FERC, the pink coat ladies, I don't know what they go by. But yeah, I don't know. I'm still kind of reeling from the shock off. The crime was the crime,
Starting point is 01:23:49 but then to see there are actual people supporting this, and there's a lot of headlines coming up. These are creating actual fractures and people. marriages where the husband is realized like, holy shit, I married someone who sympathizes with this crazy chick. Like, maybe I should hide my kids. So I don't know. Yeah, for sure. Also, I have this one thing, which is, it's not a gripe per se, but you have said this. Probably, like, a lot of people think that there is no left and right divide. It's only like top, top and bottom, like up and down, like the 1% versus the rest. Like, could be true. But also,
Starting point is 01:24:23 there are a lot of people who actually sympathize with the Lindsay Clancy's of the world, who sympathize with the Louie G's of the world. I don't really care if they have the same tax policy as I do. They have the same recipe for how to deal with the ultra rich, not giving a shit about America as I do. But I have an actual cultural difference with these people. So we have the worst of both worlds. We have a top-down elite versus working class problem,
Starting point is 01:24:49 but we also very really do have a cultural problem. which we still are yet to kind of grapple with. A lot of people who have fundamental core differences in gender dynamics, in race dynamics, in what America means, and both needs equal attention. Yeah, it is crazy, dude. I mean, like, how do you, you know, sometimes I wonder if the, hey, if your girl supports Lindsay Clancy, you know, you need to leave that person is a long. the lines of the same thing we saw at the left doing it doing the family members who like trump is it like just divide and conquer dividing conquer dividing how can you split everything up it's just interesting to me it's it's it's how how how powerful and focus are these magicians
Starting point is 01:25:44 running these tricks on us constantly but i'm also like at the same time i do think that and I just hate talking about because I have like four female fans and they're always like why you got to be so mean so I'm like I'm trying not to and literally I'm trying to help you I think criticism from outside is very important I think when you don't get criticism from outside from other groups you become the most extreme version of yourself and we're kind of seeing that right now you know with like you know like like you know pornography is uplifting you know killing kids because you're you're having a bad day is acceptable like these are crazy things and not that all women do it or participate in that way but there's enough of it that it needs to be kind
Starting point is 01:26:35 of addressed i think the gender the gender dynamics right now is very fucked up because what makes for a healthy society is both sexist checking each other so a woman needs to in a relationship in a marriage and a union, a woman kind of make sure that the guy is in his best behavior. So right now, because the genders aren't talking, they literally aren't dating and are having sex. So they are each kind of drifting apart to their respective radicals. So a guy who otherwise would have been shamed because of his pornography addiction, of his gambling addiction, of his not getting out of his couch addiction by his girlfriend, he's just, you know, status go.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Like, who cares? And that's his life now. And same goes for a woman. A woman in a relationship or in a marriage. They move more towards the center or the right because now they actually know how, like, that the guy is just like not an evil person. He's just like wired differently. And especially once you have a kid, then you become a lot of.
Starting point is 01:27:48 more conservative because you have a skin in the game and you have something to look after, a woman is not going through that process. And she's only hanging out with their other chatty girlfriends. And so she is also drifting radically to that feminist side. And we are getting the worst of the both worlds as opposed to them coming together, men and women dating, talking to each other, finding each other out, going through the song and dance, and then trying to meet in the middle. That's not happening. And people are just drifting apart to their respect to radicals. And I, but I think that whole
Starting point is 01:28:21 the Lindsay thing and the Sydney thing, I think that's on purpose. They want, they want females to look crazy so we don't want them. That's the other thing. It's like, wait a. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:28:31 Yeah. I'm curious. The elite, whoever's releasing the the sci-offs. They literally want us, they want your girlfriend saying, you can kill three girls, but then gambling and that shit's super
Starting point is 01:28:43 sexualized and pornographic and no her body, her choice, but not this, not that. You're looking at your girlfriend. I'm like, you're fucking retarded. Like, why do I even want to date you? You make no sense on both these topics that are kind of in the same way, the same thing.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Here's my whole thing with that. When you're in a long relationship, you will go, okay, she's retarded, I'm retarded, and we love each other. This is the problem. There's like, I say, I'm trying to work on a bit about that, but it's like you guys in your young relationships,
Starting point is 01:29:14 you're breaking up over stupid shit. You have no clue what a 10-year-old. relationship is and a 20-year relationship is. I'm in that. And it's like you commit war crimes against each other. You're out being an idiot. She's out being an idiot. But at the end of day, you love each other because you need each other.
Starting point is 01:29:33 But the expectations from both sides coming into a relationship are just out of control, man. It's like nobody is the catch. nobody is the one who should be pursued like i understand why men you know you chase after women that's the game but nobody's the catch you you're symbionic you need each other and you each bring something to the table and you guys got it these expectations of each other are just out of cruel the expectation is a real problem but also there is always an easy out which is literally in your pocket and in an app yes and the You have one, I know couples who have broken up because after a fight, the guy and the art gal, they went and they kind of, they got so mad they downloaded the dating apps and started swathing again.
Starting point is 01:30:31 And it's just like you have the easy out. So you take it as opposed to working it out and coming out stronger. Or at least thinking about what happened instead of instantly like, oh, I got no, I got new options. Because that's what you do before. You would sit there and be like, damn, that bitch broke up with me. What should I do? No, now you're just like, okay, fuck her. And then you swipe through 100 chicks who are putting their best foot forward,
Starting point is 01:30:51 not putting any of their retarded opinions in their profiles. So they seem perfect, you know. Really, that should be like the number one question should be, what was your opinion of the Lindsay Clancy trial now? That's every dating out. Well, you know, and women can get mad at that, but women for a long time we're putting in, if you listen to Joe Rogan, swipe left, you know?
Starting point is 01:31:11 Right? I mean, it's just like, who cares, dude? I mean, I just wish I could tell young people, like, lower your expectations of life, okay? Ladies, know your dating a Neanderthal, okay? And guys, give up. Just give up. People think I'm joking when I say that. When you're in a relationship, give up, you know, have those moments you put your foot down,
Starting point is 01:31:36 but let her, like, where do you want to go eat, what you want to do? Like, if she's really pressing you, make a decision. But let her pick everything. And he's an animal. hear like the new one it's like oh i don't want my boyfriend to be a gooner he can't be looking at only fan chicks and i'm like he's not even paying for it it's just sam yeah yeah it's just our instagram game thrown at us and we're just animals understand that loki we can look at ass and not want to like interact with it i mean it's gonna wreck your relationship but if you i mean that's the next
Starting point is 01:32:04 great thing that have to quit is guys are going to have to get off porn dude it's it's brutal i genuinely think it's like one of like so the reason what we talked about, meaning the sex is drifting apart, that's more detrimental for guys more than girls because of the following reasons. A girl, by virtue of being a girl, will always have options. She will always have a guy today because guys are chasing after girls. That's just how things work. But a guy, if he shrinks from the world and surrenders to all the worst behaviors, he will go in a cave, not interact with human beings or do anything. No girl is kind of
Starting point is 01:32:46 going to be in his DMs to be like, hey, go out no, no, no, that's going to happen for the woman. But despite of the fact a woman not being in our best behavior, but for a guy, you will become a shell of a human being and no one's going to even know that you're dead. So it's really
Starting point is 01:33:01 paramount that a guy actually tries to live up to some sort of standard. And the reason it's Sisyphian, the reason it's really hard, it's because the broader day, the system, is incentivizing the guy to surrender to the worst of gambling, of porn, of social media addiction, of this and that, and looking at every girl, whatever,
Starting point is 01:33:29 whatever, whatever. So a guy, if he's not actively discerning through this whole soup of chaos, he's going to get drifted apart into the chaos. So he has to actively look after himself. And it's getting harder and harder to do that. And it's genuine, I'm so lucky that I missed the COVID chaos, meaning I was not in school during COVID. The kids who are coming off age, who came off age during COVID in their respective high school and colleges, they have, I know these because like I, in my day job, like, I have to kind of talk to interns and see like who's worth giving a job and this and that. They have no thoughts behind their eyes. They have no worries. They have no original thoughts. They're just like shell off human beings because they have never worked on
Starting point is 01:34:18 the muscle of talking to a person, this and that. That compounding with the gambling and the porn and this and that, like the reason is genuinely important for guys to lock in. It's because the system is incentivized to get the worst out of the guys. I'm with you on that, dude. It's crazy. Everything is about just breaking you down and getting you to give into your vices. both sides and you know it's like yeah it's like young women versus older women it's like you know it doesn't last forever and that gets really hard and it's like it's like men and women lose their their youth and it's like you got to prepare for that it gets really fucking cold when that happens man and some people don't realize because you know your prime is so good you don't think it falls off a cliff
Starting point is 01:35:12 but it just your world gets smaller. It's also those first 25 years feel like they take forever. And then after that, it's just like, and then it just flies, dude. All right, man, great episode, dude. Great episode. Man, I love all your stuff, man. I love all yourself.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Sagnick, you are a G amongst G's, man. I love yourself. Tell them where they can find you. Yeah, my name is S-A-G-N-I-K-B-S-U on Instagram. I'm restarting my YouTube soon again. Interviewing a lot of people would love to have you on. It's going to start in Q4 soon. But for now, Instagram is the place where you guys can find me.
Starting point is 01:35:55 You're great, buddy. I love your style, man. I love your style. It was a wonderful conversation. We've been wanting to have it for a very long time. You're killing it, dude. You're really great, man. Thanks for coming on, man.
Starting point is 01:36:09 and enjoy the highlights, everybody. Here's a clip from the latest broken sim. So Reckless Ben interviews the guy from Channel 5. And like, I saw that, yeah. I still have. We played some of that, actually, I think. Yeah, with Courtney Love walking in. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Really creepy. And it's just like, you want, the reason I bring it up, which brings us to this is like, I want to root for the guy from Channel 5, Because he is such, he was such a great, like, investigative reporter. He was kind of doing reckless Ben before reckless Ben in a different style. Right. I could see that.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Right. And then he just went nuts. And he got, he got me-toed, and you thought that would kind of wake him up. But nope, he's right back into the same progressive BS. And so he has Hunter Biden on. Hunter Biden comes on and they have this interview and I you know Nick Fuentes is there they're like they almost went to blow so yeah we played that too yeah a cat boy versus uh you know a crackhead I would take crackhead in that every time by the way absolutely I would take crackhead
Starting point is 01:37:26 strength over cat boy strength any day of the week 100% yeah so so then hunter Biden basically asked for Channel 5, well, this is allegedly, allegedly asked for Channel 5's emails. And I think... What do you mean his emails? His emails, because he wanted to promote his coin. His email address? His email list. Oh, oh, oh, his mailing list.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Okay. Yes. I got you. So he asked him for his mailing list and allegedly Channel 5 gives it to him. Where'd you hear this? Look it up. So to push the meme coin, and the meme coin did whatever, what mean coins do shoots up and then just gets rug pulled. Okay. So he's responded to this allegation. Let's see. He's made a video here. I believe this must be related.
Starting point is 01:38:26 The word, but Hunter Biden's meme coin dropped today. I just want to reiterate. I have nothing to do with it and not a single one of our subscribers ever received a promotional email about it. I made a vague statement about this whole thing a couple days ago that I think. statement. Because I've seen some fans and supporters saying stuff about how they feel like their private data was compromised, which I can assure you is not true. I'm going to clarify two or three things here. So about eight days ago, Hunter, who has become a friend over the past year, he called me and said, hey, Andrew, I have something really cool I want to tell you about. It's basically a free giveaway. Your fans have given me a lot of support and I want to give back to them. He's like, I want to be the anti-Trump. He says, Trump scans his fans. I want to give back to Channel 5
Starting point is 01:39:10 fans because they've given back to me. So I said, sure. I mean, what is it exactly? The specific verbiage he used is all they have to do is click a link and claim the money, to pay the rent, to pay their bills, to buy their groceries, whatever. So he asked me, hey, do you mind sending over an email list of some of your supporters so that I can tell them about this free promotion? I'd never been asked for an email list before. Didn't know that I had an email list, but then I realized that on my merch website, if you go and check out, like if you buy a hoodie or like a mystery box and you go to checkout, there's a small box that you can click, which indicates that you want to sign up to receive information about, you know, news, promotions,
Starting point is 01:39:48 offers, potential sponsors, et cetera. And this sounded like something that was great. I mean, free money, who doesn't like that? So I said, okay, Hunter, sounds good. The list that I sent to him had less than 5,000 emails on it. I think it comprised about less than half of a percent of our entire fan base. I woke up two days ago to a bunch of calls from journalists and publicists asking what my connection was to something called the laptop coin. Apparently, Hunter's team, I don't even think it was him, told the Wall Street Journal that I had personally curated a customer list, essentially of prospective customers for his meme coin.
Starting point is 01:40:23 That's not true. I never co-signed any selling of cryptocurrency. I don't support crypto. I think in general, the meme coin business is very predatory. I've always stayed very far away from it. Stayed away from NFTs, stayed away from meme coins. So I called Hunter and I said, hey dude, what the hell is going on? Like, you didn't tell me about this.
Starting point is 01:40:43 Like, can you please fix this? He apologized profusely. He reached out to the publications and got the information corrected. So I made a public statement clarifying that I have no involvement with the coin. A lot of people had some concerns and questions about their digital privacy and emails being shared. So this is an attempt to clarify that. As I just mentioned, the only emails shared were a small list of people who opted each with email while checking me out on the merch website, none of whom have or will ever receive any emails
Starting point is 01:41:12 from Hunter Biden because thankfully I caught this whole thing before the coin went live, which I believe launched today. I also asked Hunter and his team to permanently delete all those emails from their records forever, which they did almost immediately. Here's a statement of proof that Hunter sent me earlier today. He said, hey Andrew, we've permanently deleted the email list from our records and no one has access to it. The intention was always to give back to the community with no strings attached. There's no associate. Wait, so did he, he's saying that they deleted the emails before they went out. Right.
Starting point is 01:41:43 Is that what he's saying there? Because if they didn't get sent, then he's telling the truth here. That's an important point. We need to listen to that again, right? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Okay, go on.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Yeah, I just want to play that because that's a really important point. If he's saying that they didn't get sent, if he told them to not do this before the thing went live. But if they did send emails, then he's a fucking liar. Only emails shared were a small list of people who opted in to receive promotional emails while checking out on the merch website. None of whom have or will ever receive any emails from Hunter Biden because thankfully I caught this whole thing before the coin went live, which I believe launched today. That's a big issue. Now it's interesting because that you can tell the audio changes. He recorded that in post and cut that into this.
Starting point is 01:42:34 it wasn't he didn't say that on the beach if you listen here listen to the quality of the audio if you can if it's possible to hear it changes when he starts saying that part uh i that's that's notable to me that's that changes the whole thing though that's true let's play it one more for a small list of people who opted in to receive promotional emails while checking out on the merch website none of whom have or will ever receive any emails from hunter Biden because thankfully i caught this whole thing before the coin went live, which I believe launched today. I also asked Hunter. Completely different.
Starting point is 01:43:08 Yeah, the beach sound drops out and you just hear room sound from another. So, yeah, I, huh? What do you think? Listen, this is the guy Jason Bermas found, caught in the act, to trying to make one of the greatest Gheger Griffin to try to edit him to make him look like a fool. Because that's what he does is in his things. and he caught him.
Starting point is 01:43:34 And then he'd say, oh, I wasn't going to do anything. We know you, dog. We know you. Yeah. And like, sorry, dude,
Starting point is 01:43:42 I don't care if your emails were used or not. You shouldn't be giving people your email list. I mean, if your buddy's like, hey, dude, I got a show coming on. I want to do a comedy show. Can I use your email list?
Starting point is 01:43:54 And you're cool with that guy? Yeah, blast them. I'm Hunter Biden. I smoke crack. If you'd like to hear the rest of this episode, subscribe to Broken Simulation in your podcasting app or check us out at YouTube.com slash Sam Tripoli. Dude, you just moved my mind.
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