Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #1026: Down the Rabbit Hole With Ninjas Are Butterflies

Episode Date: September 30, 2026

On the latest episode of Tin Foil Hat, the boys from Ninjas Are Butterflies join us to dive into AGI, the Catholic Church's strange connection to AI, ancient relics, Kentucky Goblins, Skinwalkers, UFO abductions, modern disclosure, and whether Flock cameras are part of a bigger push for surveillance and control. Nothing but bangers! Please support our sponsors: Kalshi: We make predictions every single day—about politics, pop culture, the economy, and the biggest stories making headlines. Kalshi, America's #1 Predictions Market platform, lets you trade those predictions in a live market.  On Kalshi, you're trading against peers in a live market — meaning there's no house. And as the probability changes, you can buy in and out of your position. Download the Kalshi app and use code TINFOIl to get $10 when you trade $10. K-A-L-S-H-I. Kalshi. Trade on anything. Mudflap:  Mudflap is the ONLY card built to help you keep more of what you earn, with real savings, and no hidden costs snuck back in somewhere else.  So ask yourself again: Who is your fuel savings card really working for? With Mudflap, that answer's easy. Keep more of every dollar you earn, because Mudflap has your back. Sign up at Muddy dot com slash tinfoil and get $100 in free fuel credit after approval. That's M-U-D-D-Y dot com slash tinfoil for $100 in free fuel credit. Cloaked: Cloaked protects your privacy with data removal, burner emails and phone numbers, dark web monitoring, a built-in VPN, password manager, and more. Get a free security scan and 30% off any plan at Cloaked.com/TINFOIL. Privacy isn't dead. It's Cloaked. Check out the Urantia Foundation: https://www.urantia.org Sam Tripoli's 5th Comedy Special drops Sept 1st on Gas Digital's Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@GaSDigitalNetwork Check out Word War Debate 2: https://bit.ly/4xRDe0S Please check out Sam Tripoli's 6th Crowd Work Special "Women Can't Peg" Live From Batavia: https://bit.ly/3TZBzHT Please subscribe to the new Tin Foil Hat youtube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/@TinFoilHatYoutube Grab your copy of the 2nd issue of the Chaos Twins now and join the Army Of Chaos: https://bit.ly/4gIg1ID Check out Sam "DoomScrollin with Sam Tripoli and Midnight Mike" Every Tuesday At 4pm pst on Youtube, X Twitter, Rumble and Rokfin! Join the WolfPack at Wise Wolf Gold and Silver and start hedging your financial position by investing in precious metals now! Go to https://www.samtripoli.gold/ and use the promo code "TinFoil" and we thank Tony for supporting our show. Grab Tickets To Sam Tripoli's Live Shows At SamTripoli.com: Tulsa, OK: 10/9-10/10 Dallsa, Tx: Nov 7th (TrutherCon) Austin, TX: Dec 11th-13th Witcha, KS: Dec 18th-19th Please check out Ninjas Are Butterflies's Internet: Website: https://www.sundaycool.com/sunday-cool-studios/ninjas-are-butterflies Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ninjasarebutterfliesshow Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/NinjasAreButterflies Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ninjasarebutterflies   Please check out Sam Tripoli's internet: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Sam Tripoli's Stand Up Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@SamTripoliComedy Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/      

Because Peter Thiel, he's doing those seminars on the Antichrist. But it's funny because in his interview where he was talking about the Antichrist, he was basically describing the antichrist as being like one who is against the progression of AI. He's now coming out and basically in some way saying like, talking like J.D. Vance and stuff of like, hey, Pope Leo, he's shown a lot of characteristics of the Antichrist, you know, because he's against the AI. Whoa.

Hold on. That sounds like something. tech race would say. Tinfoil hat. Oh, what the fuck are you guys who are talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to tinfoil hat.

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Are you ready to get your mind blown? And welcome to Tinball Hat live from the Wise Wolf Golden Silver Studios. Just go to Samtripplea. You use promo code tinfoil, and you two can get in on the press mail's game for as little as $50 a month. price mail sent right to your house guys it's a big day here on tim fall hat a long time coming it's it's like almost like a holiday here i'm so excited i've been blessed to be on their show twice and uh we'll get into how they've changed the game i'm very honored to have the boys from ninjas are butterflies

josh hooper any to noon and andrew solludes i'm the show what's up guys welcome to the show Welcome to the show. It's been a long time coming and we finally made it happen. So, honor that you guys would join us. Thanks for being here, man. Heck yeah. Thanks for the invite. Well, we love you guys. I mean, I can't stop singing your praises and how you guys have changed the game. You know, you guys, I mean, you must look at the Instagram and go, oh, they're just doing our videos, how we do our videos. And we're guilty of it. I mean, like, I'm like, that's the best presentation I've ever seen.

on how to disseminate its short form content. And now it seems like it's everywhere. Congratulations. That's high praise. High praise. Thank you. Thank you. You guys are really great on it.

Real quick, I mean, if you live under a rock, you don't know who ninjas are butterflies, but if you want to tell us a little bit about yourself, so any of our listeners who do live under rocks and somehow gets Wi-Fi under that rock, tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you. Yeah, so we're Ninjas of Butterflies. We started off as a podcast reviewing dances with the stars episodes. It's a very niche audience, so that didn't take off very well. But no, we're a podcast and we're based out of a company called Sunday Cool Tees, where we do like custom apparel. And grew up doing just like skits, like funny, funny videos for like youth groups and churches and stuff. with Andy, then brought Andrew on, and then we're like just kind of getting burnt out by the

sketch comedy stuff. So we decided to do a podcast and we're like, I love conspiracies. And so we just start doing conspiracies. We're technically a comedy podcast, but got into the conspiracy realm and I haven't looked back since. It's been insane. It's been fun. It's been wild. I developed crippling anxiety over the past four years from doing this show. But yeah, it's great. And then we get to meet people like you and some other crazy people. Yeah, one thing I really like about you guys, you guys are Christians, but you're like lovable. You're very loving people. Sometimes maybe because the internet and just, you know, there's a lot of clout or or and views in kind of attacking other people and some do it in the name of Christ and Christianity.

And I didn't, I never got that from you guys. You guys are very loving people. And it was like, that was very apparent to me, you know, the first time I sat in your, in your studio was like what really great loving energy you guys have. It's like you guys are real genuine people. So we'll just wait. Yeah. We've established it.

Now our character arc is going to take a. quick burn now that we're established. It's going to be great. You explained to me when I was on your show, so your listeners heard it, but where did you come up with the name, Ninjas, our butterflies? Do we say it? I don't think we do. That's the problem, Sam, that we said on our very first episode that we would never tell the

reason why we named it Ninja Butterflies until our very last episode. and so whether that's a big falling out and we argue we would just quit or we all die we have like a you know like us we've recorded in a video that says like upload just in case yeah it's like an emergency button so you guys are going to create a conspiracy around your guys is name by doing this you know that right yeah and that's and hopefully that's the goal we're trying to i mean if you go onto our instagram at ninjas of butterflies and see the only person we follow um we're we're trying to start our own conspiracy theories with our Spoiler alert, it's the CIA.

So I love this. Oh, God. Now you're going to have the fittest flat earther doing 40, 50 videos on you guys, how you can use your CIA and all that stuff. Yeah, I mean, you guys are just a really great show. It seems like you take a bunch of different subjects and you break them up into a segment. And you do you guys now is the goal for each one of you guys to bring your own? story or own topic and then you introduce it to the other guys and everyone reacts to it. I think that that's kind of the beauty of it.

Like we have this format now, but it was never like, hey, we need to have a set format. We're going to, you know, we're going to do this here, there. Obviously, we do like a song, which is crazy because there's only one musically talented person. And he's the one that plays the guitar. But beyond that, it's Josh does a lot of the research. That's kind of like his main thing. He just wants to dive into these deep stories and get all the details. But a lot of it is just kind of, you know, what did we hear about?

What did we see? There'll be times where it's like, hey, Josh is like, let's get into some Bigfoot stuff. And we just all kind of dive into it on our own. And then, you know, as the conversation flows, we just, you know, we hit from one point to the other. And then there's a lot of rabbit trails and we chase and, you know, go around. And so it's very conversational. I think that's kind of like a part of it that a lot of people love. It just feels like you're just sitting around, talk with your friends.

and just BS and having fun with it. So that's kind of the vibe that we've picked off. And yeah, over time, it's just established into its own format, which is really cool. And the show itself was happening already before we started it. I think that's what a lot of people don't realize is when we were doing the skit comedy, basically we'd wrap filming on one of those projects. And then immediately it'd be like, do you guys see this like UFO thing? And so we were running the show as friends before it was ever on.

on camera. So we're pretty stoked to be able to turn that into what we do. It's fun. Professional yappers. Yeah. Go on. Sorry. Oh, no, that's it. I just said, yeah. So how long have you guys been friends? A long time?

Is this like from first paycheck? First. Was it a school thing? I met Josh around eight years ago and we kind of, we met online. E-Harmony. And he offered me a job and I moved down here. And then it was like two years after that, Andrew hopped on.

So it's been about, you know, eight to six years for all of us. So it's been pretty cool. How long has the show been going for about four years? Show's been going four years. Okay, dude. Yeah. Andrew, now, are you the editor? Are you the one who does most of the editing and stuff like that?

I am. Now, we do have, I got a shout out. We do have some guys who, like, do clips for us. And so I started doing a bunch of the shorts. Andy jumped in. He was doing a bunch of the stuff. Andy's like the AI pioneer. of the show. And then it just

became what it is and kind of too much to keep it all rolling. So we've kind of got some guys who help us out. But yeah, I edit the podcast. For the first couple years, it was me and Andrew. We were just doing all the clips. And so now that like what you say about our clips and stuff, we established kind of like

what our vibe was and what we really enjoyed. And Josh was a big part of that is just like saying, you know, he has a good vision for just that creative brand of what Nidges was going to be. And so following that, building on that, and the We've gotten to the point where we're very grateful that we have now people that are helping us. So that way we could focus on, you know, building bigger clips and building onto the actual podcast itself.

So where was the style of editing? Because it's just so amazing. I mean, it was like it was mind blowing when I saw it the first time. Like not just telling a story, but the visuals. Where did you get that from? Well, for me, I mean, one, Josh, you know, he did a lot of studying and he's obviously been online for a long time. He's been at Sunday Cool for over 10 years now. So he's been doing content for over 10 years. But that whole idea is, you know, you have to have one, you know, every second you must have a different change of a graphic or an effect or something. So that way it keeps people's attention. You know, people's attention. The cocoa melon effect. Yeah, exactly. Can you explain cocoa melon the people? I know Sam knows Cocoa melon.

If you have kids, you know Cocoa Mellon, then you read all the stuff about how it makes kids dumber. And you're like, they got to watch something. Yeah. There's probably a conspiracy in there somewhere. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Cocoa Mellon.

Conspiracy. Yeah. I think to kind of continue on what Andy's saying, each of us is a little bit different creatively, like into what we draw inspiration from. Like, I have a musical background. And so a lot of the stuff I was doing was like, blend. audio to make the real kind of dynamic. Andy came in with AI and was like, look, he, I mean, he dove in and figured out how to make a lot of stuff pop. And then each of us, Josh kind of oversees

what we're doing. And so sometimes I'd go off on a tangent and Josh would be like, hey, let's steer it this way as someone who started like the channel and writing. And so each of us is like a little different. And I think that's kind of the secret sauce to what we're doing is we're in the same room. We're not like remote editors. We're all sitting here and we're like, hey, what do you guys think this is what I think and then we kind of push back so you end up with what you get I've also just I love movies and just like short films and so like getting the chance to be able to cut those reels and stuff was so fun because you're making your own little tiny short film and so coming up with an aesthetic and like creating a whole vibe within 90 seconds was so fun for me and so like that's just it was such a

good creative outlet as well I love going to your guys's studio I know it's only been twice but I still I still really enjoy it because it gets, you know, the first time I did it, I forget like, my flight was late or something and I just like drove there and you guys are nice enough to wait for me. But like, dude, you drive into their city, it gets sleepy hollow very quickly. You're like, dog, we're in the middle. Like, you're going to see a dog man at some point. Some cryptid's going to be on the side of that road at some point. And I'm just very jealous of the life you guys live because we live in L.A. and it's everyone's on top of each other

and to see where you guys live, it's very cool. So I appreciate you guys spend a little time and tell us to your history there. Now, you brought in Josh AI. And based on how long I've been watching you guys, you kind of were in front of that whole thing.

Like, it seems like everyone uses it now and you are smart enough to use it early. Yeah, that was just because we're all terrible at graphic design, I think. And we just figured out, really good way of storytelling was to utilize AI because it's just crazy smart.

I'm still very against AI because I think it's ran by like demons or something but you just pick and choose, you know? Pick and choose what works. It's like anything, dude. It's like a gun, right? A gun could be used to, you know, hunt

and get food or it could be used to commit horrible crimes. It's like... You have a open AI can't pull the trigger on your gun. You know what I mean? It's like it's remote control. Not yet. Not yet. That's right. But I think there's different levels.

Like I use AI for graphics and stuff and I don't use it all. I just use it to help out, make it a little nicer. And I'm cool with that. But also, if I order an Uber and a Waymo shows up, I'm not participating in that AI. Because that's actually, I mean, I'm taking some of us his job of graphic designers. But that's just, I don't know, I think there's two different levels of like using it and then taking out somebody else's completely job away. Yeah. You know, I've been thinking about.

a lot about that. Like, I did use graphic artists for a while, whether it's t-shirt designs. I still do that, but, you know, other things like that. But I feel what AI has done is allowed the average person to be able to create their vision without having to use another step to get there. And I don't think that's necessarily bad. No, and people have been, I mean, you know, the Luddites and the, during the Industrial Revolution, people saying this is going to wipe out jobs it's going to be mass unemployment homelessness rampant

and it hasn't happened yet uh yeah yeah yeah we adapt uh yeah and so i i suppose that'll happen again here but i i am inclined to be negative look at music look at movies look at any doc it's like you know sean hibler makes you know hollywood level docs on his own that would never happen 20 years ago yeah he'd have to work through the system in order to create his vision and that involves banker money. Like really what we're doing right now is taking out the millman. And obviously if your buddy makes graphics, that's not the bank. But, you know, to produce a high quality show like ninjas or butterflies,

20 years ago, that would take $100,000, $200,000. And you would have to find somebody who grants you the wish of money, you know. And if you didn't get that, you were on the outside. So I think it's good. I also see in AI and I'm one of the Johnny and I Johnny you might be like me I know Dylan's like this on my other show but

I just see a lot of shadow in the cave with this thing. It reminds me a lot of nukes. Oh nukes dude nuclear war nukes coming oh dude we got watch out and we just all run around like chickens with our heads cut off and then at the end I'm not sure

yeah I don't know that I because think about where it was two years ago where you know like deep fakes which aren't really AI but deepfakes couldn't make Will Smith eating spaghetti look like anything but insane. And now it's indistinguishable from reality in most ways like AI videos. Yeah, I mean, now project that forward. It almost started World War III. Yeah, so what?

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, I mean, it means that humans will have to change how they ingest video content now, certainly. Like, you can't take anything for granted from now on, from now, for, for, forever unless they come up with some way to roll this back or water market or something. And even then, people could do it locally and avoid that. Yeah, yeah. There would be a software. You can't trust your eyes anymore.

Yeah, yeah. And there would be a software for that. But when could you combat that? Trust your eyes. Well, I mean, if someone brought you a video. You know, the golf of donkey never happened. No, but I'm saying if video footage used to be somewhat reliable, like a friend of yours brought you a video of somebody shooting somebody in the face, you'd be like, that happened,

probably. Yeah. And now certainly not. You know what I mean? Like the video of you rapping with the, obviously not the alien. But the video of you rapping, two years ago,

I'd be like, what the fuck? Sam actually got on a mic and decided to wrap. Why wouldn't I? I'm not saying what it was really good. It was really good, Sam. So I see some of your talking points. We just, you know,

I have a show called doom scrolling. And there was this big controversy scandal at the Catholic Church in the Vatican. And it was that. that there was this belief that the Freemasons have infiltrated the Vatican. And there was a guy whose job it was. He was tasked with trying to find who the Freemasons were. And every time he brought it to a Pope, that Pope died right after that.

Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, you know, getting into our last episode with the talk about, you know, the actual structure of the universe and God and what that actually is. you know and and and then you get into the structure of the church so you want to get into some AI with the Catholic Church is that what you wanted to talk about because I find that super interesting yeah I mean I just it's um I find it interesting because it was like a couple

weeks ago that um I think it was like three cardinals I mean because well one Pope Leo has been pretty outspoken about AI um of like his dislike towards it and I They even came up with like some like, I don't know, what you call it? Church. Not dogma, but just like. I'm not familiar with what the Catholics call them. Yeah, but it's basically just like a Miranda or something. Like a bylaw kind of thing.

Or it's just like the Catholic Church says. There's stance on it. Yeah, there's stance on the AI. So basically like not in favor of it and like all this stuff. And so now you got Peter Thiel coming out and like basically saying like, you know, because Peter Thiel, he's doing those like, those seminars on the Antichrist. I don't know if you guys have seen that.

That we're not super failed to see. Do what? We're not allowed to see it. Like you can't record it. You can't do any of that stuff. I think he's doing a four-day seminar in like Atlanta here soon. Yeah. I thought it was Nashville.

It was in Nashville. Yeah. Either way, we should try to sneak into it. I would be totally down. But it's funny because in his interview where he was talking about the Antichrist, he was basically describing the antichrist as being like, one who is against the progression of AI, which is so strange.

But he's now coming out and basically in some way saying like, talking like J.D. Vance and stuff of like, hey, Pope Leo, he's shown a lot of characteristics of the Antichrist, you know, because he's against the AI. Whoa. Hold on. That sounds like something the anti-grace would say. Yeah, it's not me and damn, I promise.

Whoa, that's crazy. Yeah, it's just, it's very strange. And I forget where I was going with this. But like also the three Cardinals. The Cardinals, they went to Silicon Valley to meet with different heads of AI. And it was very secretive. It was very like was not publicized. No news media picked it up.

And it wasn't until a Cardinal came back to the Vatican where he was speaking about him and two other Cardinals went to Silicon Valley. And we don't know their agenda of what they were talking about. No. At least I don't. And who they visited with. Yeah. Yeah. Are you Catholics?

no okay so let me ask you what's your thoughts on the vatican itself secrets secrets secret secret very spooky i don't know i want a library card they're bad i've applied they keep rejecting me yeah yeah for sure that's such a dangerous question to to like like i'm scared to answer i have friends who are like devout catholics and i'm like i know they're christians i know they're saved I know their life's ambition is to love people, but it's like anytime you get a lot of people and a lot of history and a lot of power, guaranteed some facet of that is going to have corruption in it.

So I don't want to say like a blanket statement that like everyone in the Vatican is jacked up. I'm sure people are there who are like trying to do good stuff. I'm sure there's been a lot of great popes and then there's for sure has been a lot of terrible popes, you know, like very corrupt evil popes. Yeah, but even like you can get played. being high up in the Catholic Church. So, but like, you know, we look at stuff and like the history of what's going on. And sure. So like to answer your question without answering it at all, it's like love some people in it, skeptical of everything they're doing.

Yeah. I do like the mystery of the Vatican though. Yeah. I think like even like the, we've gone down the rabbit hole of like the symbolism, the different symbolism that they have all up in the Vatican, like the pine cones. That's true. Just the weird occultic kind of symbolism. you're like, what the heck are you doing that?

And they're on record of that UFO recovery that happened. Remember that? Yeah. Like they were, you know, one of the first people at this like UFO retrieval program that happened. I can't remember the year. It was like, I think, in the 50s. Yeah, it was around World War II. Yeah, super, super strange.

So obviously they have a ton of secrets. I think, I think their costumes and robes are cool. I think that's pretty tough. I honestly don't trust anyone that wears a hat that high. It's like, what's, what's under the hat? And then you have people who break down, like, what the hat looks like, fish gods. And it's, yeah, but it gets to get into, like, the corruption of any power structure. I don't care what group you're talking about.

I don't care what religion it is, what group you're talking about. The higher up you go in the power structure, the more shady it gets because you go, why are they there? What are they positioned? Who positioned them there? You know, all the scandals that have happened through the Catholic Church, which, you know, I think is a smokescreen to have people not look at other religions and their scandals as well. But, you know, and also this detachment from God, you know, if we know in politics that they will position corrupt people to control them, why wouldn't they do it in religion? And particularly the Catholic Church, which has such a huge following all over the world.

Right. Yeah. And we can't pretend that religion and politics. don't, you know, intertwine. Sure. You know, we, I mean, even, even in America with, uh, local megachurchas, not even like mega mega church, not like Joe Lucey, like just churches of, you know, like three, five thousand people, there is a ton of political trouble and, uh, like just, like a lot of control that happens.

And there's, I mean, so you can't, you mean, you're putting that on an international scale like the Vatican. There's stuff happening that we have no idea that. would absolutely make people run for the hills. But they're so, you know, so established and been around for so long, they can get away with a lot of things and they know how to hide certain things. And obviously, they're doing good. You know, there's a lot of good things that happens.

But it's just, I don't know. It's hard to trust it, especially as a person. And that's as a person that's not a Catholic. So obviously, I'm very ignorant on the subject, but it's very spooky. Some of my favorite people are Catholics. You know, my dad had a weird relationship with it. I think something happened way back in the day, and he's very anti-religion at that point. You know, it's like, what happened, Dad?

But, you know, I've really good people that I love that are very good people, loving people, Christian people. And it's, you know, you apply this to any group, like Islam. It's like I have so many Muslim friends. And they're just good people. But again, when you go up to power structure, he's. start getting into more, more, more, like, deviant, evil and dark psychopaths. It's just the nature of maybe humanity. I don't know, man.

But what is, Johnny, you're a resident religious person. What is the biggest, what's the difference between Christianity and Catholicism? Any thing can claim to be Christian if they claim to follow the teachings of Christ, right? It's more of the difference between prodigious, product. Protestants in Catholics and Orthodox. Shout out Orthodox. Shout Orthodox. Bang, bang, bang.

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slash tinfoil for $100 in free fuel credit. Terms and restrictions apply. I see mudflap, Inc.com. Mudflap fleet card is issued by Celtic Bank or Community Federal Savings Bank pursuant to a license from Visa USA, Inc. Isn't it the Saints and the Virgin Mary? Isn't that two, one of the bigger things where, like, as Catholics? Well, yeah, there are many differences, yeah, between. Protestantism and Catholicism, and that is among them, yeah, the idea of like intercessory prayer and, and purgatory, you know, certain books that they accept as, you know, as non-apocry. But, yeah, I mean, there are, I'm trying to, in my head, I'm grappling with this question of whether the people that I grew up learning Christianity from would have considered Catholics, Christians, I think they would. would have like saved people. I think they would have. But there are many significant differences

that, you know, I mean, you know, that's. Yeah, one of them, the biggest, one of the biggest differences is like the Protestant is like soul scriptura, right? So like, and then like Catholicism is like the papal supremacy. Yeah. And so it's like there's one head of the church as opposed to Protestant. It's like kind of like we're all the church, you know. And, but yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, there's a ton of nuances. And I mean, there was, I feel like there was definitely a movement, especially in America, it's where, you know, you're like Southern Baptist and stuff where like Catholics aren't Christians or going to hell. Oh, yeah, that's how I grew up.

So I was thinking back to the Southern Baptist idea of Catholics. Yeah, a lot of them would have thought that, I think. I don't think the people that taught me would have thought, but I believe that is the Southern Baptist line. Yeah. Yeah, and I think just like the older you get and the more you get outside of your own bubble, realize that just like Christ, people that just love Christ and follow Christ, you know, they're saved, you know, and it doesn't matter if you're Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, whatever.

I think if you are just a follower of Christ, you're a follower of Christ. I do feel like I need to say as an ordained Southern Baptist pastor, I do believe you can be a Christian Catholic. it is now what would you call it like works righteousness I guess you would call it is it's much more common among Catholics this idea that you not only do you have to believe

and sometimes belief is even kind of secondary to the idea that you do good things like that's required almost like you can lose salvation as an idea among some and that's not that's other like the Protestants especially in the South most of them are like once saved always saved and it's kind of a line you cross and then once you're beyond that you know it's you're you're you're good it's such a semantic thing too because you'll say like the problem with that is like

once saved always saved well if you became unsaved were you ever saved and so it's like it's almost a game that's played but but i think one of the things that the Protestants hold to that's different from Catholics is like we believe in the uh priesthood of the believer and and in saying that like you can go to god directly on your own. I don't need a church to commune with the Savior who died for me. And so when you get into things like purgatory and indulgences, you're going to like wrestle with with questions along the lines of like, if I am saved by Christ alone and his blood atones for every one of my sins, what more is needed beyond the blood of a perfect savior? And so when you, when you ask the question that way,

it's, in my opinion, pretty bold to say you need something else. I agree. Yeah. And you can, think of it's not hard to understand the motivations uh you know especially in the early church for you know having a priest who knows all the secrets of everyone in the town right you know yeah it's not that gets a little shady it gets pretty yeah it gets pretty shady and tricky and that's why we just need to i should just suggest everyone just trust joseph smith um yeah man never lies so he saw it he saw the tablets i mean he wrote it down you saw it why would we why would we not believe him why would you trust that guy um you know somebody who is working on his faith constantly i do hold christ as the the reason to that we have

hope and and that the following of christ is the teachings of how to navigate this realm that we're in whatever it is you know that that's to me love thy neighbor all that stuff You know, people want to, you know, people who hate religion, they get really weirded out by these things. But, you know, when I look at like the commandments, I just go, those seems to be really high vibrational behavior. You know, don't steal, don't lie. Don't try to hook up with your best friend's wife. Like, these seems to be high vibrational actions that, like, and I've just learned, especially on this journey, you know, Tim Foll Howell will be 10 years old. in December. And I've just learned that when you do high vibrational actions, when you commit

high vibrational actions, high vibrational energy comes your way. And good things are happening in your life. And that seems to be to me when Christ is like just trying to tell you that. And if this is offensive to anybody, I'm sorry about that. But it just is like if you're a high vibrational person, that's love. That's helping others, giving it away, all that stuff. And, you know, everything else there seems to be, and this is speaking from the outside, a lot of control mechanisms. And I don't know for me, that's what Christ was about. For sure. Yeah.

And that's kind of true. John 15th talks about just, you know, like abiding in him and just, and I think that's literally like what you're describing, but just to put it in verse context. Jesus says, apart from me, you can do nothing. So if we're apart from him, then our life is going to lead to that, that, that, that, negative output. But if we stay connected to him, golly, we're going to see good fruit. We're going to see blessings in our life. And blessings may not be millions of dollars in a private jet, all this stuff, but it's going to be things that God knows we personally need and that what's going to help us. And so, yeah, I love that. Also, happy birthday to 10 years. That's awesome. Yeah. It is crazy how fast

it goes. It's unbelievable. And what I've learned over time is like so amazing. It's such a blessing. because it really lets you let go of everything and just not get lost in all the chaos that's around you that seems to be engulfing everybody. I just feel like it's like... Do you think time is going faster? 100%. This is the question I like to ask people that are significantly older than me, and you don't really qualify. But like someone who's 80, like someone who's 80, when would they say time started going faster for them? Was it in the 2000s?

Like most of us here, I think, you know, like the mid to late 2000s. was it around that time or was it for them was it much earlier uh is this something like a phenomenon of the brain or is it is it is it something that's actually happening for everyone universal i mean for me it's it's it's that you know the older you get a unit of a day yes i've always thought that too but but that that suggests it's universal there's also something when you look at a 20 year old today versus a 20 year old of in the 1950s the 20 year old in the 50s looks like the dad of the 20 year old today. It could be some, it could be tech related because we consume the way we consume media now and these little chunks. That's what I was about to say. I think it's technology. He said in the

2000s, I don't think we're bored anymore. When's the last time you were bored, bored, where you don't have your phone and you're looking at the clock and you're like, fuck. School was the last time. Yeah. That's what you're saying because our time doesn't drag out. No, we just have, we're not bored anymore. We're always, yeah, we're filling up your time. Yeah, we're filling up your time because now you're not bored. You're not in the car looking at the fucking clouds and be like, look, that's what I used to do. You used to sit. the car and just look at shit. And now you don't have to.

You just fucking go on your iPad or, and you still think you're bored, but you're not bored, bored, bored. Back in the day, was bored. You read anything you could read to read. It didn't matter. It's true. Yeah, I mean, that's a big part of it too. But it does seem to be moving quicker.

100%. I do agree with that. I just think everyone's, everyone looks younger, but we're eating worse than we ever have. Right? Where our culture is more polluted than ever. Kids are going up fast. I mean, just the puberty, they're literally having periods way sooner than they should be.

Yeah, I just feel like it's time has changed. Yeah, because kids are getting older, faster, but the way we treat them, we treat them like kids longer. Yeah, that's super interesting, right? Yeah. That is interesting. I'm convinced we all died about four years ago and this is actually a false reality. Yeah. Well, there's that theory about 2012, everybody.

2012, everybody died. And we're on a way back from Miami and we got run off the road. It's going like 70. In all the other scenario, if you did the whole Dr. Strange, like laid out 10 billion scenarios, I think we would have died in all of them except this one. And ever since then, we started the podcast that week and nothing makes sense. And so I'm pretty sure I'm dead. Yeah.

Interesting. thing. I'm just like Uncle Sam's with us. Am I in your your new reality is in my part of the texture of that? You're an MPC dude. Well, I've always thought that too. Like it's, you're like an angel.

Thank you, dude. You're welcome. But it's also like, am I am I an MPC in your world and you're an MPC in my world? What that's that? I'm not saying I don't do drugs, but I was in my house the other night and I was laying there and I was just thinking for some reason I thought like if I called like I was like okay so like Josh and Lily I was like if I just called you right now and just said what are you doing? Would you like have something going on or is like or am I the only one in this world and everything else around me is fake? It just feel yeah it's like you would just make up something like that you're doing but if I showed up at your house like it's like the Truman show. It's like my mind goes there sometimes and it's like it does feel like that. Yeah. Life feels so weird recently.

It does feel weird. I used to think that a lot, I, you know, I do the road. I don't know how much you guys travel. But if there's cities you normally go to, you show up and everyone's, but like when you're gone, what is going on there? Like, are they just sitting around waiting for you to show up? That's why we got webcams, dog. Webcams, yeah.

Well, that would be, that would be a simulation. That would be a game. Like, when you play video games, nothing's happening when you don't get there. It's a conservative resources, yeah. You have to get to that little city for there to be a guy for you to ask questions. But when you're not in the little city, you're in the woods, you're just in the woods and he doesn't exist. We've talked about before, you know, that being a possible reason for why people blip out when they go into national parks. Yes.

The simulation doesn't want to render. Like, that's going to be too much work. I mean, we're flying to Springfield, Missouri in two weeks. And I know that plane is going to be packed. And it's like, who has, how are 100? 50 people flying to Springfield, Missouri on a Monday afternoon, just like we are. Like, we have a reason to go. What are they doing? I think that on the freeway. Like Saturday at, I don't know, 3 a.m.

You know, and there's tons of traffic on, I'm like, what the fuck are all you guys doing? You're just adding texture my life. I have this fantasy that I could go along into each car and judge their reason for being on the freeway at this moment. And if it was invalid, just blip them back to their house so that I can move it down the road. I think about that a lot, an unhealthy amount. You know what I remember. I forget the movie, but it was the red hot chili peppers, Anthony Kedis and Fly.

They were driving a truck, a giant 18-wheeler. Do you guys remember this movie? I do not. And at some point, the traffic so bad, they just plow through the traffic with this 18-wheeler. And I remember thinking, like, there's someone in that car that has a life. The Chase, 1994.

Yes. That has a life. And we're just acting like it's funny that they just got thrown to the side. You know, like, each, even like when I think about like henchmen, right? Like in like John Quicks, John, John, John, John Witt, right? You mean Tate Fletcher, our friend? Yeah. Like in the last one, he kills like 300 people.

Yeah, Tate Fletcher is one of them. Each one of those people has a life, a story, you know, they got kids waiting for him to get home. He's doing his job. Yeah, it's like the guy probably is an open micer doing. stand up has his joke book in his suit probably got bullet hole in it now you know there's probably one trans in there so you know and now it's a hate crime it's like somebody who's excited to get started on HRT like yeah it's like today's the first day of their life and now god dude it's it's but that's that's like is that the world we live in almost like is it that kind of crazy

we're asking questions here we have no answers dude anytime we go down these rabbit holes my brain always goes back to one question and it's how can you prove to me that you know you existed a moment ago I think therefore I am right I mean I have that memory

but also every moment is faith because you cannot prove everything wasn't created in an instant one instant ago As a Christian, you hate the song, I have decided to follow Jesus, don't you? Because I mean, we don't decide. We have the illusion of choice. Let's not get into this.

Yeah, that's crazy. That's for another podcast. When Sam starts his religious systematic theology show, we'll jump on. I'm in, dude. I think that's interesting. I also think, you know, there's this whole theory that time isn't like a line, but a book. Right. And all things go on at one time.

So like if I'm on page 74, that is reality. But if I jump to page 250, that's reality. But I could also jump back to page 15. And now it's reality. Like all things happen at one time. It's all happening at one moment. If you were 4D, you could access those other. I got you.

Yeah, that's like that second video we played, right? Where you can, if you were at a higher dimension, you could access those other points. But it goes back to what Andrew's saying. Like, can you prove two seconds ago happen? I mean, we recorded it. but what if the only thing that's happened, the only thing that you can prove is at this moment. Yeah.

But that moment just left. Yeah. So now this moment. Now this moment. The people that are, you know, the hardcore TM people, that's what they're all about is trying to reside in the moment, you know. Josh had a really fun theory that he came up on the podcast one time.

And so in the Bible, there's moments where Moses is on top of a mountain. literally communicating with God, same thing with Elijah. And then in the New Testament, the mountain transfiguration, Jesus goes up on a mountain with three disciples, and they start communicating with God, right? And then they see Moses and Elijah there as well. And so Josh asked the question,

like, what if the New Testament with the disciples and Jesus on the mountain, what if that moment was happening as well as in the Old Testament? And that was the first time Moses and Elijah were also talking with God. And so like what if like is like, because that's obviously how God probably sees time, right? Like in a way that we don't understand that we can't possibly explain. I like that's the theory of that. And I thought that was just like a phenomenal theory because we try to understand it

through a human lens in the culture that we're brought up in. But in reality, it's like, this is God we're talking about. You know, like so who knows what's possible and what's not? So I've always thought that was a really fun idea. So you're saying that like it could be that Moses talked to Jesus. Is that what you're saying? Right. Right.

Yeah. Like that's like just like your book theory. Like that's exactly, it's all happening in the exact same time. So you know, Moses and Elijah. The future in the past was happening at the exact same time. So like when Jesus was talking to Moses and Elijah on the mountain, back in the old testament when Moses was talking to God, it was actually Jesus that he was talking to in the future. That's crazy, dude.

Like, think about the probability, though, of those two people being the people that Jesus transfigured amongst. Like, why those two people? Those are biblical accounts of that very similar experience. Like, Moses' face was changed. You know, so it's like, the more you think about it, you're like, I think that is actually what happened. It's freaking crazy.

Yeah. Man, that's pretty mind-blowing at the same time. Everything going on at one exact time. I've always said our reality where we live is like every movie ever all going on at once. And they're Bible verses. Like in Psalms, there's one that is something like a thousand years to God is like a, you know, a blink of an eye.

Yeah, a day and a day is a thousand years. Yeah. So it's, I mean, the relativity of time is, you know, part of me wonders if God just has like a sense of humor and like

drops that stuff in there just to see how we'll react. I don't doubt that. I've never doubted that that some of that is. I hope God has a future. He must. Look at the world. I mean, he's a sense of humor because I've talked some mad shit. And I'm like, oh, I hope God knows I'm joking. Well, you see, that's one of the traits of near-death experiences is that the entity is that they encounter as God is like a laughing kind of jovial.

I mean, with the way the world is, I wouldn't doubt he's a real fucking comedian. I hope he is. Like, he literally, like, look at that. Look at that. I hope he gets sart. This is funny, too. I mean, I think so. There's that one of my favorite stories is the book of Jonah, right?

God tells Jonah to go to Nineveh to tell them this, you know, like all this stuff. Jonah says no, runs away and he gets swallowed by a big fish. Like, gets thrown overboard, swallowed by a big fish, spends three days inside this fish, gets puked up on a beach probably. And then after that, all that whole thing, God repeats himself and says, all right, so I want you to go to Nineveh and tell them all this stuff. And then Jonah's like, got it. Yeah.

And so it's like, you didn't have to repeat yourself, God. Like, I'm pretty sure Jonah knew what he had to do. But I think it's just funny that like God just had to throw that in there. Like, okay, let's try this from the top. Here we go. Go to Innavote. So, yeah, I definitely think he has a sense of humor. There's no doubt.

Yeah. Now, you guys have faith. Do you guys have anybody on that's timelines kind of don't fit into exactly how you see the world? Oh, for sure. And do you ever open your mind to that your faith isn't wrong, obviously, but maybe the, the, uh, invite, what am I? The, the total package might be a little bigger than just that one point of faith. Oh, yeah. That there might be a little bit more.

Your faith is true because that's one aspect of this much bigger thing. I'm gonna I constantly not constantly obviously not every single minute every day but there doesn't have a day or week go by where there's not some type of doubt that enters my mind with my with my purpose on earth or my faith or whatever and so that's why it's a constant thing every day just to kind of lean towards God and lean towards Jesus like open my eyes teach me because I'm dumb and I can't help it like so you just got to help me out here so having people on that have different viewpoints or different spiritual opinions. Like it really does help me. It doesn't, you know, it's not in one year at the other. Like, oh, we're just doing

this for content. So go on and, you know, I'm not going to listen to anyone else. That's, that's something where, you know, like, I think that's, we're being constantly question or challenged with, which is, I think super healthy. I think it's like crazy to say you shouldn't doubt or shouldn't change your viewpoints because I've been wrong about a lot of things spiritually. And, you know, that's the beauty of having these conversations and being open. I feel like we've been pretty good about that. Yeah. But we've also had people that I've came on and are very angry towards God and have fallen

away and kind of moved away. But listening to their perspective is a great way to just understand like where they're coming from and be able to learn from that in our own way. Yeah. You're supposed to always be ready to give an account for the faith that you have. And you can't argue your faith if you're not considering the counter-arguing. So I think even within defending the position you have, by default, you have to always be open to taking something else in and hearing it. And we're called to love others. And so you have to do that

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security scan and 30% off privacy isn't dead it's cloaked so a big conversation you know you brought up people who are mad at god i'm in recovery had a bad drug problem for a long time got got sober found god more found god more i always believed in god but for some reason i just it wasn't enough to keep me from doing drugs and stuff like that. So I run into a lot of people that have a problem with God. And it always comes back to some very traumatic moment in their life, that they don't understand why this was allowed to happen. And so, and I ask this not to challenge,

because I generally have this question, why does bad things happen? in this world in terms of why why why does a child die stuff like that and that's not challenging it's a it's a question it's an honest question sure yeah i mean i hate the phrase everything happens for a reason i want to fight everyone verbally whenever i hear that uh because i think that's a ridiculous thing like why do thousands of kids die every single day from starvation dehydration whatever um i think it makes no sense to say that. But I've also heard the argument is like, you know, if you can, you know, why does God allow bad things to happen? If you're going to put every, all credit to the bad things

that happen on this earth towards God, then we also have to say all credit for the good things go to him. And I think a lot, there's a lot more good that happens in this world than there is bad. And it, you know, it just depends on the lens you look at. But that's like the age old question. Like, why do bad things happen to good people or why does bad things happen in general? But I think that's just because one is just the world we've chosen right like that's just we've chosen to make this world a really poor place and i think that is the the beauty is that we have just in if we believe in eternity right it goes on forever and we just look at this tiny little speck that we spend here on earth whether it's 80 years that's nothing compared to eternity i think this is a great chance

for us to be able to take those bad things and trust god in it you know because like that's, we see that all the time where, you know, someone is afflicted with a disability in that they're questioning, why do I have this for the rest of my life? And when we don't see this as an opportunity purely just to glorify God and, you know, and grow from this. And so people can look at and say, wow, I can't believe this person has such a positive attitude or has found joy or found a purpose in their life when everything has been thrown at them. You know, I've had junk thrown at me when I was a kid that, you know, I could easily, for a long time I did. Where's like, why did you allow this to happen to me, God?

Like, why didn't you do something? You obviously knew about this. You could have done something. And it's a struggle every day. But I think the biggest thing is we try to understand why this happens. And we have to also be okay with not understanding it. Yeah. Like, we have to just be okay with like, we're not going to fully understand on this side of eternity.

But that's where faith comes in. Like, I know Jesus is real. I know what he said was. You're real. I know there's proof that he existed and proof that he rose from the dead. And so it's like, it'd be ridiculous for me not to take this guy seriously. And when I started doing that, you know, I asked him for faith because I was like, I'm doubting you a lot right now. And so just asking for that faith and him giving that to me, you know, I'm not perfect. I'm still doubting every day. But it's, it's a choice. It's love is a choice.

You have to choose whether you believe in this person or not to trust them, you know. And, you know, hopefully that doubt goes away over time. But ultimately, it's a choice to love that person and to follow them. I'm rambling. I totally agree. No, I love it.

I mean, there's this idea that you see, especially among what Jesus said, that people who have a bad trip here, you know, have a, tend to have a better, like the, I'm pulling here from Luke 16 and 19, when Jesus is, talking about Lazarus' experience after death. He says, you're talking to the rich man, he says, you received good things in your lifetime, and Lazarus, likewise, bad things,

but now he is comforted here, which is, you know, suggesting that. And you see it, but the needle through the camel's, the camel through the needle's eye, that whole, that idea, I think it's, that kind of permeates Jesus' teachings. And like you say, if you extrapolate reward out to infinity, it's more than enough to compensate for a lot of. lifetime of whatever or even, you know, a few moments of it. And it's like Jesus gives purpose to the suffering, which I think is unique in our faith. Like aside from Jesus, suffering is just suffering. You go to really dark, atheistic, what's the point, place really fast.

And I don't have the answer. And I know, I mean, that's a thing that I wrestle with, especially when you hear someone just shares a really, you know, like a really traumatic thing that's happened to him. It's like, man, I wish I could say something clever right now. And often I don't have that answer, but I know that Jesus did suffer and promises to be with us in that suffering. And if we will suffer alongside him for the sake of others, he promises joy and peace. It doesn't promise to take any of the suffering away, but promises joy and peace in the midst of it. And so I think the ambition of a Christian is to share the hope of a Savior who suffered first and loves and promises eternity. And so in the midst of this fallen world to Andy's point that we created, we have a hope for what's to come.

And so there's joy and purpose and a beautiful thing that you can create in that journey. And again, that's not an answer to why. It's just Francis Chan is a pastor who quotes another person. I love to say this quote. But he says you might have a better way. A lot of people feel like they have a better way. Why suffer? But he says you don't have a universe.

And so my favorite verse is Genesis 1-1 and beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And so for me, you can debate everything you want. But if that reality is true, it's his universe, his rules, and I am a creation in it, not sovereign over it. And I don't understand it. That's my faith jump. I believe he created it. So I surrendered to the teachings of him incarnate as a human on this earth.

And so it's kind of heavy, kind of weird, and it's not an answer we want. But I have found that joy in pursuing his. teachings and trying to live that life. And so that's all I can say. I should say that Lazarus parable, by the way, that's Jesus speaking, but it's Abraham's words. Like he's saying, Abraham said this to Lazar's. It could also be that there are things that our minds cannot comprehend. True. It's just not allowed to go there. Like, I remember, I've talked about this before, but as a kid, you'd be like, try to think about infinity. As a kid, how about now? Yeah, and just try to see how far into space you can just keep going.

And your mind just goes, no, dude, we tapped. We're out. We've gone far enough. You know, there are answers that might be beyond what we're allowed to comprehend. And there is free will. And sometimes with free will comes some dark shit. And it becomes a test. And unfortunately, sometimes your life is affected by other people's free will.

And it's unfortunate. But this is the realm that we live in. You guys, we play your clips all the time on doom scrolling. You're probably one of the number one guys that we feature your videos on our show of the best of the week. And, you know, you guys tackle some insane stuff, man. You know, and like, how does that, how does that fit into your view of? of the world. Like you guys, you guys tackle some pretty heavy topics. Not all of it's super heavy. Some of it's beyond interesting. Like, you're like, wow, that happened. Like, how does that

work into your whole thing? To me, it's just expanded my perspective. That was a, actually a podcast we've had on these two guys, Kim and Kyle. They have a podcast called Expanded Perspectives. But that's what it's done, really. It's just like, I mean, just kind of, when you grow up and you're own little bubble of just like you kind of just create your own understanding of everything. And then when you start getting outside of it, you're like, dang, the world, the spiritual realm is infinitely bigger than I ever would have thought, you know? Like when you read, like it's not canonized, but like the book of Enoch and stuff. And it talks about the watchers and how these fallen angels, they came down.

It's also parallels with Genesis 6, where these angels mated with the women on earth and they created this Nephlem race, but these watchers also had these very special skills of like metal smith, like making swords and pharmacaya. And like basically it's like this heavenly knowledge that wasn't meant to necessarily go to man or not necessarily at that time,

but these angels defied God and they did it. And to me, that just like, then you see the repercussions of that throughout the rest of human history, of just war and psychedelics and just crazy, crazy stuff. And so to me, it was just like, oh, my gosh. Well, the world makes a little more sense

when you have that context of like, in the very beginning, there was this rebellion, this great rebellion of, these angels that came down with this heavenly knowledge. And then you get, then it just kind of opens the floodgates of like every conspiracy. Like, how are the pyramids made? It's like, well, they probably had this crazy weird heavenly technology.

You know, it's like, to me, it's expanded everything. And it's pretty rad. When you think about the second, is it the first temple that was built by demons? Well, that's in extra biblical text, but yeah. I don't know about that. I've heard that one. The idea that Solomon thing, yeah. I have heard that, yeah.

With that tool? Yeah, I can't remember the name of it. And you kind of look at like when they're like, it would take a thousand years to build the Great Wall of China. And you're like, unless they had supernatural forces at work. Yeah. It's like, it's like it's, it's, it, this is, I'm completely making this.

up. There's no biblical stance in this really. But it's almost like, I mean, in a sense, you can take a biblical perspective to it. Like the big flood, right? The flood that in the Bible wiped out everybody supposedly except Noah and his family. Like the reason for that flood was like I grew up understanding it was just a bunch of debauchery and just bad people. And God's like, I regret making man. I'm going to destroy the earth except Noah who is faithful. but in the context of like the Nephlam and the Watchers and stuff, it's almost like they were just a corrupted peoples, right? So like they had this knowledge that they were using to defy God. And like the even like the bastardization of the creation of the Nephlem, like half human, half eternal being.

You know, and that's why you get into like the book of Enoch. It kind of like, in a way describes that the demons that we have today are from the Nephlam giants, right? Because God is like, this is a creation that I didn't make. So when they die, their spirit is going to roam the earth forever until the final days. And they'll always be hungry. They'll always be thirsty. They'll just be in torment. So that's where we get demons.

And I don't know if that's, I mean, obviously that's not biblical because it's in the book of Enoch, which is a book outside of the Bible. but like yeah I mean it's just I forget I told it was no you're getting it was it was presumed though in during the during the time of Jesus and that that was the presumption of the people it was like when they say demon they didn't need to unpack it because everyone was everyone knew everyone knew what that meant and so but I think what you were getting with was with the flood and the idea of like so right people had too many drugs and so God told them all has that happened multiple times in history so Has it been like, like, has it have like, like the, the bronze age? Like, how did the bronze age collapse?

No one truly knows. Like, it was a very thriving point of history, you know? And then all of a sudden it was like nothing. It's just, it's like this, the first dark age. And then it's like they have to revamp. It's like the great reset, you know? It's just like it seems almost intentional that like humans start. grasping this technology or something that is in defiance to God. And that's why AI kind of spooks me

out, where it's just like, is this the new type of technology to where we're ushering in to where it is a defiance to God? I don't know. But if it is, and it kind of feels like, oh, well, we're about to get a big old. Kicking the pants reset. That's why I want to buy a submarine and just put it in my backyard. You don't live by the, you don't live by the, you don't by the beach. Yeah, but that's my goal. Move somewhere with a giant yard and just have a functional submarine sitting in the backyard and just be like,

oh, floods come and load into the... Why not a boat? Why don't you have a boat? Well, because it's going to get so bad. It might just waves coming. Submarry would be miserable, though. Just miserable. You can go to the top when it pulls down. Yeah, I could go to the top and chill out

and then go back under. It's better than a bunker. It's better than a bunker. It's down if chaos comes. Oh, dude, I read this. some scientists put out this week a blow-by-blow account of what would happen if Yellowstone erupted. It's just fear porn, basically. And I spent like an hour reading this, it wasn't that long, maybe a half hour reading this thing.

And it's, you don't want to be. How bad did it claim? Like here we're okay. We're, you know, we'll probably get lung disease later in life, but we'll be okay. The Carolina is Florida down through the south, mostly okay. But like Colorado, you don't want to be in Colorado, dude. Like, you want to get out of there. And then they try to put political.

like implications on it from our modern politics, you know, or our contemporary politics to whenever this might happen. So if we also goes, Democrats get taken out. So how you're saying? No, but we all become refugees in this country, you know, and then Europe has to decide whether to take us into their bosom, you know, as we haven't taken refugees from the Middle East over my dead body. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, it's highly political. And it ends with this idea of an alien coming down and finding the aftermath of this and thinking like I wonder if our predesite the alien is actually a descendant of humans you know it kind of looks like a Nordic actually in this dramatization and the idea is that he returns to this planet which had become like

uninhabitable because of global warming and sees the caldera you know or whatever and like ponder's weather that was all in this article yeah it's tremendously long yeah it's quite long by news week What is it? Sci-Fi magazine? No, it was like the U.S. Geological Survey or something. Put it out. I can tell you exactly here,

but it's some science. I'll only believe it when Alex Jones reports on it. Yeah. We got seven foot gray's coming down here, taking over a dead planet. We got grazing gizers.

That's the signal to the Galactic Federation. Come on down. So, like I was saying, driving to your place, it gets very sleepy hollow. And you're like, dude, I could see some shit just popping out nowhere. There's nobody around. I'm the only one on the road. Late at night? Late at night. Oh, yeah, because they were nice. My flight was late. It was awful.

So on the first time I went there. It was weird because I go into your place the first time. I'm like, okay, this is cool, but it was empty. And then the second time I come, it's bustling. I'm like, whoa totally different energy this is actually a company there's people here it's like it was really cool to be there are you driving and trying to look for something or are you just driving and not where like i'm just telling you man when you see that scene in sleepy hollow with the trees yeah i get yeah you go down a road it looks exactly like that you're like i'm brother cop a two next next time you're here we're taking you into real florida we uh i got a buddy i hunt with who's like an hour away and he refers to where we live as the city,

and he says it makes him uncomfortable. We'll take you out into a swamp and let you see the real side of things over here. See, I want that, but I don't want alligators. That's my only problem. Dude, if you can get out here before the end of November, I have a gator tag. I'll take you gator hunting. You wouldn't want to kill gator?

I think they're dinosaurs. I don't even believe in dinosaurs, but there's something from the past, man. They'll eat your dog too bro. They used to... Hey, and what do you kill the gator and you eat it? Oh yeah. We just killed an 11 footer and I've got

to pick up. I think he was like almost 500 pounds. I got to go pick up the meat. So that'll be in here next time you're here. You just triggered Josh because he had a puppy ate and buy a gator when he was a good. So you have a war against them? I do. I hate gators.

Who loves gators? I feel like they're just doing it. When I lived on Hilton head, it was one of the biggest things we covered in the newspaper was them like clapping on people's dogs and stuff they were every huge ones Roger would be screwed he would run right to 100% dude

they got some old lady while I live down there who was straight to her dog survived and she got she just went missing you know like just a few weeks ago we had a lady's arms ripped off die just huge like 12 foot gator jump out of the water

just grabbed her arms and death rolled her damn and it's awful awful. I wouldn't get near the edge of the water. It's like to me like Florida water and subways are the same thing. Like you don't stand near the edge of that shit.

You stand as far back as you can. See, this is how you capture time though. You got to like I think part of losing time is when we fall into routine. And so you just got to break up the routine and get on the water with us. Let's get into some cryptic stuff. I know you want to talk about some

because I'm into it, dude. creature sightings. You guys feature a lot of that on your show. Some of your best videos of that stuff. Like, what are your thoughts on all that? Oh, man. It's the, it's the best. Cryptids are like my favorite topic to talk about because there's just like, it's just, it's, it's so obscure and unbelievable. But why the heck do you have so many people all over the world reporting the same type of things, you know?

for hundreds of years. Yeah, I feel like Bigfoot's probably the easiest one, like the most well-known one. It's the gateway drug. Which I did just find on Blurry Creatures podcast. Florida is in the third top state of Bigfoot sighting. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, there's a sighting that happened in Tampa just a couple years ago, right? It looks like this enormous orangutan. Yeah. But it's just this, and it's like Bigfoot and orangutang type looking creature. the lady took a picture of in her backyard she had um you know she thought would raccoons or something stealing fruit out of her tree and so she hears some rustling in her backyard goes out there snaps a photo flash photo film there's i mean i wish i could yeah we could maybe pull it up or something we could send it your guys's way but holy molly this thing is massive it's terrifying it's

as if uh yeah like it's like the closest thing is an orangutan tank yeah but it looks humanoid and this happened not just too long ago and they can't disprove it. Like there's, there was, it was before AI photos. Oh,

it was before all this. It's, whoa. Whoa. Look at its eyes up there. It's fucking tall. Yeah, you can tell it's tall because his eyes are all the way up there.

Damn. Dude, it's scary. So it's stuff like that, man. Like you just never know. We had a guy. I mean,

you should tell that the, the white coyote. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So we also taught, yeah, like cryptids, but like a spooky, realistic one is just like Skinwalker stories. I love Skinwalker stories because they're just truly like the creepiest stuff. And they kind of do, again, you can play it back to early scripture kind of stuff of just like this weird magic stuff. And like, but this is what these Native Americans do.

It's this type of ritual. to you know where they do this whatever then they can literally transform into an animal and you're just like what the freak bro but this one story it basically goes back to like 1800s Texas

and this man and maybe early 1900s but there this man who recounts a story he was a little boy and he was with his grandfather and around this town there was this story of this this albino coyote this albino coyote

would just terrorize the town, all the cattle, the sheep, the chickens, just constantly. No one could ever catch this albino coyote. And one day the grandpa and his grandson were like, the grandpa was like, let's go into town. We got to get some stuff. So they're on their horses. There's those like before cars. And they're riding into town.

And sure enough, right on the side of the road was a, the white coyote, the albino coyote. Grandpa pulls out his rifle, shoots the coyote. Coyote kind of runs across the road. like just whatever. It goes to the bushes. And then Grandpa's like, all right, let's whatever. Let's just go into town.

They go to town. They come back. They spot the blood trail. And the grandpa's like, well, let's fall the blood trail. What? Kill this coyote. This gets crazier. And they track this blood trail. And you know, they're tracking the paw prints and stuff.

And then the paw prints just stop. But the blood continues. Whoa. And they go, that's weird. And they keep tracking it. And it leads to a house in the middle of nowhere in this part of Texas. And the grandpa told the grandson, he's like, oh, this house is basically it's notorious for housing this old Native American woman that no one ever goes and bothers. Like, everyone knows not to go knock her door, just kind of leave her alone kind of thing.

But he's like, but the blood is going to her house. So let's go see if this coyote went to the house. and so they go and it goes up the steps straight to the door the door's closed Grandpa starts banging on the door no answer Grandpa opens the door

and the old Native American woman is lying dead in the living room floor with the gunshot wound with the gunshot wound exactly where he shot the coyote so like right in the chest Oh that's crazy so the grandpa's like well we got to call the sheriff

and so they called the sheriff he came out there and basically the thing was everyone just knew that that coyote was this Native American woman. No one wanted to say anything. So they just kind of left it as it is. He said it seemed like people in the town when they came out there and looked at it. He was like, it was as if they all knew something I didn't.

They were like, all right, move on. Yeah. Like let it go. Crazy. So that came from, that story came from our buddies and expanded perspectives. They're podcast. And they get sent in a ton of stories. but that was a personal story.

That was from his family. Yeah, family friend. What's your name of their podcast? Expanded perspectives. You would love them. They just literally, they get, it's just two country boys from Texas, and they just share stories

that they get sent in. And so many of the stories, and they told it, it was a two-hour podcast, and they just won after the other. But so many of these stories are from cowboys or hunters. These are guys that love,

that live and breathe, fishing and hunting. And they're not trying to write books. They're not trying to get on the news. They have interactions with seeing Bigfoot or something in the woods to the point where they no longer want to go in the woods.

They no longer for the rest of their life want to pick up another fishing pole or another gun and just stay out of the woods for the rest of their life. Like it's stuff like that. It's like you talk about these cultures all across the world who have no contact with one another, all coming up with, you know,

star people and bigfoot creatures and all this stuff and giants. And then you have these guys who experienced something so supernatural. They can't put it into words. They don't even want to talk about it. This grandpa had never even told this story to his kids. Or his grandkids. He was in 80s when he finally told the story to everyone because he's just like, well, I mean, it's just what it was. He's like, it's kind of hard to believe, but it's what happened.

Yeah, it's like what point do they have to make this up? So it makes me wonder how many people. especially in the older generations have experienced these crypted stories but they've never told anyone just because it's like well no one's going to believe me that I saw an orangutan bigfoot man in my pantry eating my peanut butter.

Absolutely. And the thing makes these scary like the Florida picture that I showed you guys the thing that makes some of these more believable when you get in Bigfoot, Native Americans have them on totems against every other animal is real and then there's a Bigfoot and you're like, well why is there one

fake one? That doesn't make sense. but then the Florida one, she wasn't reporting Bigfoot. She was like, is there a zoo that lost an orangutangang? Like, she tried to get the cops to come out. So a lot of these stories don't come from people being like, I found Bigfoot or I have this experience. These are people who are just like innocently like dealing with this stuff, nothing to gain. And then the more and more that happens, you have to just start, you have to at least say like, to Josh's point, people who quit hunting. Like Sam, if you quit comedy, you were like, I experienced something and it said quit comedy.

and literally you were done. People would be like, yeah, he experienced something. And so, like, what's real? I don't know. But you can't deny that people are seeing stuff or at least having experiences that they believe wholeheartedly are real. And it gets in there. Like, there's only one cryptid that loves the big city.

And that is the Chicago Moth, man. Like, he's the only one that goes into and bangs within the big city, dude. Like, everyone else is really far into the forest. and I think it has to do with electricity and energy fields based on all the lay lines. Yes. So it's like as you get into the smaller, the smaller cities, the less dense population, I think you see more of this stuff. Yeah.

And then it gets to the point where like, if I go to somebody, Bigfoot's real. And they're like, no, could they ever actually see Bigfoot? if they don't believe in it. Can it appear in their in their peripheral, their vision if they don't believe in it? I think that has a lot to do it. It's like when you discuss any conspiracy, if you know the history of sci ops and high impact events

and you see something happens and it's like bang, bang, bang, all all the characteristics are there, you can see it. But if you don't know any of that stuff, it's almost impossible for you to understand that there might, might be a conspiracy at work. Yeah. Yeah, totally agree with that. And you guys bring up a really great thing, Andrew,

when you brought up that all these other animals are real, but Bigfoot's not, the Chinese zodiac, right? Like everybody in the Chinese zodiac, all the animals are real except for one, a dragon. And you're like, why is everything else real? And then now we got this mystical beast here. Yeah.

Yeah, that doesn't make sense. also pandas were discovered like a hundred years ago or something like 150 years ago yeah that's how Benjamin's big thing but it's not real dude fake yeah they're all fake dude dragons are especially weird especially because it's not just in Chinese culture like it's a lot of cultures that talk about this flying fire breathing lizard and so that's that's what that's me I don't have no answer for that but it's like

how can you not question it at least a little bit I mean we just discovered they just discovered a new species of cat this past week, like in the jungle. I saw that. It's so cute, too, dude. It's so cute. It's so small. It's like a house cat. They thought it was a house cat. And it's like you don't think, I mean, especially with the donut get us started on the ocean. Right? I'm like how many things are probably waiting underneath there. I mean, we have that there was that report of that, what was it, the two mile wide dome that was just crawling across the ocean floor and they have no idea what it was.

It's like, Matt seems. Oh, that's huge thing. that they saw from like way above. You're like, I haven't heard that one. Have you seen that? It's like just they had a like, I don't know if it was satellites or something that picked up what looks like a giant,

like black, um, like not dot, but a giant black image in the ocean and it moved slowly. What did you guys hear about that? Did you guys hear about that one in Iran? Supposedly they saw like a like a football size filled UFO and everyone's freaking out and it's all over there.

but yet again, who the fuck knows if it's AI? Okay, so this... It's all over the missiles, and they're all saying it's like, you know, World War III and Nukes. On the ocean floor. Yeah, I'm getting ready to talk about the Iranian ones on our next podcast. We got it pulled for broken sent. Oh, yes, how are you guys?

What do you think that? I mean, that's, like, what is real? What's not real? It's crazy. Don't bring Israel into this. I mean, and that's... But that's another thing that we've discussed, too, and I'm sure it's not, you know, we didn't invent the idea.

But the whole conspiracy with AI videos, it's like, I mean, would that not be beneficial with all this UFO disclosure stuff that's coming out? It's like, how easy would it be for a government to say, hey, that's, you know, that's AI generated, whatever that may be. Like, I mean, we're going to be videoing a lot of stuff. We're going to be seeing a lot of things. Who knows if there's the UFO sightings are going to go on the rise or there's going to be some wacky military training stuff happening? I mean, it could easily just be passed off as that's AI. That's not a big deal. Don't pay attention to it.

I had a woman out of Australia. I forget where her name is. And she came on my show and she was talking about the real Siop with Project Blue Beam isn't that the government is going to fake a giant encounter. But the Saip is the government telling you that they're faking this thing that really is going to happen. So you automatic gets back to, oh, it's AI. Oh, it's this. It's that. Let's the hologmany of it.

Holograms. You know what I'm saying? It's interesting, dude. It goes back to the New Jersey drones. Oh, yeah. But I've seen them. Okay, yeah. See, but there's a lot of people saying that it was just military equipment.

Well, I personally think it's Pellantir. Yeah, doing that would check out. Running simulations on if they could. One, if these drones will work because they change sizes. Like, they morph in the sky. so they'll look like one thing one moment they'll morph into another thing they're the size of SUVs i've seen them in the sky when i play the comedy dojo and morse planes he'll he'll drive me to the hotel it'll be like there's one there's one i'm like holy crap there it is

dude i think it can't it can't be palantier peter teal would never lie to us that's true he's trying to help us find the antichrist he's doing his best man yeah he you know that's why he doesn't sweat. He has to stay cool all the time when you're hunting the anti-apprizes. Hunting the antichrist. They notice we don't care though, really. I mean, we barely even bring it up now. Like my favorite thing to do is when there's a high-impact event,

I like to go to Instagram and see how the Instagram models are taking it. Like, you know. How did they take the New Jersey drones? They didn't even twerk for it? There's not. There's just, they twerk no matter what. We're World War III break out. going to twerk. You know, it's super interesting. But going back to Flock, what are your guys'

thoughts on Flock? Because I like to hear your thoughts. And then I'll tell you what I think. Tell that new conspiracy. Yeah, I think it was this guy, was it, Jimmy Chin, I think, on, which he would be great on your podcast, Sam. He's, I'll take anybody you guys suggest. Yeah, he's super into conspiracies. But this was his finding basically of just like, which it's, it's so, it's important to look out kind of, what the news is reporting on. Like, why is everyone all of a sudden talking about flat cameras and like getting rid of flat cameras and like all these influences are like, we got to get rid of flat cameras.

They're tracking every movement. They're tracking our Bluetooth, all this stuff, which is probably true. But what Jimmy Chin found out was some of these major cities that are like, they're on video like signing like we're getting rid of flock cameras. Like even Florida, I think just passed like interstates and stuff. It's illegal to have flock cameras. but what a lot of these cities aren't telling you is they're immediately signing another contract with another surveillance company called Axon, which is like the body cam footage and

like all the police officer stuff. So it's just it's replacing it with a different surveillance system. But then he did a paper trail back and then it's like as soon as this flock camera stuff, like get rid of flock cameras, all this stuff, you realize that President Trump bought about $5 million worth of stock in Axon. So it's like you're getting rid of your competitor, you know? I've said this for a little while now. I think flock cameras are scarecrows. Yes.

And they're just there to scare us and get us to cut them down. Why the real stuff is that exo stuff. You just talked about that real company. They're right next to you. They put them so high. It's going to be almost impossible to get them off. and they're right next to your traffic cameras and stuff like that. And I think they want us mad at Flock.

That CEO Flock probably knows he's just there to take the fall and he's making a ton of money. He just has to run around and be like, oh, we just want to keep you safe. We've got to be safe. It's more important. We care about your privacy. Yeah, except for I blurred out my house on Google Maps. You can't see it. But besides that, just trust us, you know.

I think it's... But also, like, I think it's obvious, like, it is, like, it is kind of funny that they just put, like, it's this huge black poles with very huge cameras. And it's super noticeable. And it's like, you don't think they're going to have something a little more under the radar. Like, that's the whole, like, maybe that's like, so when we don't see the flock cameras anymore. Yeah. So when they don't, when they're not, when you're driving around, you don't see them anymore, you're thinking, oh, we're not being surveilled. It's just a matter of time.

Do you guys forget the tree 5G towers? We used to see. Oh, look, a tree. and it was a 5G tower, it's just a matter of time when they make a camera that looks like a tree and we're like, oh, it's a tree, then what do you do? We're going to take the tree down, top it down? I saw a dude in intelligence.

He was talking about cars' TPMS sensors or whatever, the tire pressure monitoring. They display an individual code for a car for the computer to read it. He was like, so literally those traffic counters that you run over, he was like, it could literally be a sensor that your tire fires off where they can track your car based on that.

He was like, they have ways to track you, even if it's not a camera. He was like, it's all an illusion. Yeah. You know, I think people would go along with a lot of this stuff if they just gave us cool shit. Like if you're like, hey, movies are great again. You know, television shows are rock and the food's good. It's healthy.

Your culture isn't polluted. If they, hey, look, you can afford a house. Gas is reasonable. You know? Yeah. We'd be like, yeah, surveillance me harder, Daddy. and I would be yelling. Oh, man, there's a bit.

And everyone's like, shut up. We're having a good time. Leave us. We got free Wi-Fi. Cut it out. 100%. That's a big thing on Flock. At my old neighborhood,

where we used to have a house, they're literally trying to sell it up by saying, we got Flock cameras. It's safer for families. And as a family, you're like, oh, my value's going to go up in my house, so I might as well let the flock cameras in, but that's literally one of the moves.

That's where they get you. That's where they're getting the family. It's like, it's safer for your family. If you buy a house here, your flock is here and it's houses are selling there. Yeah, and that's what they're trying to do with those many data centers, like the size of an air conditioner outside people's homes. And they're saying, hey, we're going to pay you 10 grand a year and you're going to have free

electricity and free Wi-Fi. But all you have to do is host this tiny data center right here on your house, you know, so that way they don't have to buy more land or anything. Like it's just like, hey, well, you know, take up a four by five spot right there on your property and we'll pay you for it. And it's like, honestly, sounds good.

Yeah. Yeah. Dude, get a hold of XG. He just lit up. 10 grand. No electricity. That's what I'm saying.

That's how they get you. You make 20 of them. Who needs a backyard? I got four corners in my property. Our convenience is going to enslave us for sure. Real quick, back to the alien abduction.

I watched this video the other day and this guy was like, if you get abducted and you're cool with it and you just go with it, they'll be nice to you. and give you a tour of the ship. Like, see chill about it. Yeah, if you're just like,

yeah, you know, probe me harder. I enjoy it. Spit on their finger. They're like, oh, this guy's cool.

Yeah, of course. I'm going to show you around. The thing I like to think is that they don't even really have to probe you. They're just kind of, that's just them phone. Yeah. You're totally right.

You're like, you haven't gone past probing. Yeah. There's no way. You just like doing it. No, that's, that's 100% of the first day aliens,

like initiation. They're like, oh, yeah, You got, you all, we all, you got to probe them. Yeah. And afterwards, they all laugh up about it. So every time it's really true.

It's hilarious, dude. They're like, ah, you didn't even have to do that. Day one, rookie hazing. It's what I feel about. Isn't that going to strip that human for life? Yeah, but it's okay. It's what I feel about your prostate exam. Like, why does someone still need to stick a finger up there?

That's like, have we not figured that out yet? We got to the moon and you still need to put your finger up my ass. Yeah, we can't find a smaller thing to put up there so I don't even feel it. Yeah. Exactly. Doctors and aliens doing the same. shit, just probing for free. That's a great point.

That is a great advertising point for a doctor. Like, you can put in the paper smallest fingers in L.A. That's a really good. Someone should do that. Oh, my gosh. Someone should do that. That's crazy, dude. Yeah, man.

Well, guys, it's been a wonderful show. I'm so excited. It took too long to have you guys on. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Oh, yeah. Big time. I know we got a little deep early, but man, your guy's show is wonderful.

And I look for it. I always love your clips. And we play them all the time. So one more time, tell them where they can find you. Basically everywhere at Ninjas or Butterflies, YouTube is at Ninja's a Butterfly show. And we're on YouTube, Spotify.

Not really Apple right now because they're kind of... Yeah, Apple dropped us for a second. So we're hopefully... Why? I've never heard of that. Wow. They've thrown a bunch of errors our way and we're trying to figure it out. but yeah, we're dealing with it.

We're in communications with them, so we're trying. Yeah, so Spotify, YouTube is our full podcast, and then we're on Instagram and TikTok, Ninja the Butterflies. And we have a Patreon as well. Now, I saw you guys are doing at one point live shows. Are you still doing live shows? Because I feel like you guys would crush it with that. We did three live shows at some comedy clubs here in Florida last year.

Right now we have nothing on the docket. So we have maybe in the future, but right now we have no. plans right now. Okay. Well, that is. So if you're on tour, Sam, we'll do it with you. I'll go on tour to you guys forever. I just feel like I would have to watch my language. I feel like we swore so much on the show. I'm like all these poor guys. No, we'll pray with you afterwards. Yeah, let's do it, we'll do it. We'll do a baptism show. Pray the demons way. I think it only matters if you curse in Aramaic. As long as you don't curse in Aramaic, I think you're good English. Is that rule?

I didn't know that. I mean, just think about it. I mean, the curse words, Jesus didn't know any English curses. Yeah. It's true. Or did he? He knew that was coming up. Yeah. He might know everything that ever happened all the time.

Fuck? What did you say? What is fuck? Don't use Goyam. He knows Goyam. Oh, that's interesting. All right, guys. Great show.

I love you guys so much. Thanks for coming on. Enjoy the highlights, everybody. Here's a clip from the latest broken sim. This story began with cell phone footage from someone in Iran saying that there's a UFO flying overhead. I run. I run so far away. I got to run away. I get away from the alien, whatever that is. So this is the first footage that came out that I saw. I agree. You're all among us down I agree. You're a foot. You have a boy. Hello. Did he say hello? Hello? He knows it's

American. Dude, what if the aliens speak English and they don't know what they're saying? Look at that. UFO! You're I love it when English makes it into other languages.

UFO! I just got to UFO! that I dig in an alien probates. Now, now Alex Jones was playing this and he said, obviously this is holograms, hologram technology.

What do you think about, because he says that they have this kind of low under, this kind of, what would you say, like low altitude cloud cover typically to project the holograms into? I wouldn't doubt it, dude. Yeah, 100. I mean, do I think it's that?

It could be. Is it possible? 100%. but you know who knows what this is this could be a u.s military craft or what's the point of making a u.s military craft flying over hostile territory the most visible thing in the sky that's the argument scare them dude they've been doing this forever johnny you remember when they did voice the skull technology into like the taliban and kai da and they were just like beaming in their head you guys are gay you guys are so gay

you love man ass and they all went nuts like that's what they're doing this is psychological operations yeah no i mean and i wonder i've always wondered if that voice the skull shit was to blame your friend do you think that's to blame for then like having their man boy love like tuesdays or whatever they yeah they never did that and then they just started hearing voices i don't know man it's not it's not the most ridiculous thing i've ever that's called blowback yeah and blow your back out that's what that's called blow your back out so awful that's terrible that's terrible real uh so then uh let me see then we got yeah i mean like dude we've been talking about this forever johnny about project blue beam

we always think it's going to happen here why why wouldn't happen somewhere else so then we got this footage also So these are These are the Each person I'm going to So these are Orbs aligned in the sky

Next to that UFO Can you go back a little bit On the video Why do the orbs look exactly Like the buildings look They're like oh my God Look those blinking lights in the In the sky

Then you look at their buildings They're blinking too Look at that that's so weird Is it weird I mean they're all just lights Right like glowing lights No but go back at blinks It bling, it's not like, oh, somebody's in their apartment in Tehran.

They're blinking lights. Look at that. It's weird. Oh, that is weird. Yeah, what is that? That is strange. That's, yeah, you're right. What is that?

That is strange. Like, look at the lights and sky. I'm like, what's going on in that apartment, dude? Yeah, no, you're too right. What kind of Tehran, Taran Raive is happening right now? you're it's all right bro uh so then there came footage of them uh now i've heard this explained the way but uh the footage of like uh maybe like flack being fired at these ufos let me see if i can find that flack like giving them a lot of shit like anti air like you're doing a shitty

job it's like why you give me so much flack let me see if i can find that footage no flack gun it's like an anti, it's an anti-air artillery piece from way back, but I think they still call it that sometimes. Let me see if, uh, okay, where is, wait, what is this now? I don't know, Johnny, what are you doing? No, I'm trying to, so there's, there's some footage of them trying to fire on this thing, and, and then the, at first it was thought that it was, uh, it was the, it was like missiles or something that were just being kind of blipped out of existence. What? Later, people said that it wasn't that, that it was likely AA fire with like Trace.

Elkalk synonymous? And they thought that the orb that was in the sky was maybe a flare. But the link I had to that has been deleted. So I'm trying to find it now. What do you, so you think, you think the purpose of that is to intimidate the people in Iran to make them think we have. Shishab their brains. Psychological warfare.

It's been done forever, dude. That's literally their game plan. That's what they do. You talk about it for a second while I'm looking at that. Guys, let me talk about this for a second. I mean, we've seen in Vietnam they did it. In the Middle East, they've done it. I mean, this is, they're doing it in America right now,

psychological warfare. You just traumatize and destabilize the enemy. So now they think they're going to get Japanese grays finger blasting, dude. That's what they think is going to happen. Imagine being a Japanese gray with no fur, finger blasted an Iranian with all the fur. That's got to be weird.

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