Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #1029: Repitlian Underground Civilizations With The Edge Of Wonder Boys

Episode Date: October 10, 2026

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You take something like Bigfoot, right? I mean, every culture on the planet dating back nearly thousands of years. Yeah, thousands of years have a term terminology for Bigfoot. But then at the same time, there's people who are willing to go to any lengths to achieve what they want to achieve. And that is doing dark rituals. They know these things are real because they are working with this stuff, these dark forces, these demonic things, these alien things, like whatever. Basically, they're, they're all. like work with whatever

they can to achieve their goals. What do you fuck are you guys who are talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed and a world governing body will be created

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We don't know where they've been. And they came back, one of our favorite guests of all time, from Edge of Wonder, Ben Chastine and Rob Counts. How are you guys? Doing well. Yeah. I mean, it's been a crazy five or six years for sure. Has it been that long since you've been on the show?

Has it been five years? I mean, as long as we've been gone. So around that, I think so. I think so, too. So, I mean, real quick, for those who don't know who you are, can you tell us a little bit about yourself that I want to get into what happened to you guys? Yeah, yeah. So around 2018, Ben and I came up with a bright idea to start a YouTube channel. And it actually, we were just like, yeah, we'll just talk about stuff we're interested in, right?

It ended up blowing up. And within a year, yeah, within a year, we had like 420,000 subscribers on YouTube. And then around January of 2019, we started seeing YouTube publish these articles saying that they were going to start suppressing conspiracy theory channels of which we really weren't we never even had a community guideline strike we would just research things and explain what we found to our audience and then also tell people not to listen to us and go do their own research well the morning that the hunter Biden lapsed top story broke in the new york post that morning like 19 different youtube channels got deleted hours was one of them and it wiped out like almost 500,000 subscribers that we had.

And overnight we were, we lost the ability to speak to any of our fans that we had accumulated over, over a few years. And it, I mean, it totally toasted our, you know, business.

It's already hard enough to make ends meet as it is as a podcaster. You know, we were, you know, we were getting by. It wasn't great. But it's just been hell since, since that happened.

And then, yeah, Ben, when did we get our YouTube channel back? Just like a couple of months ago. What happened there? Like, we sent emails, right? Yeah, well, so what happened was YouTube said that they were changing their, or the new CEO, you know, the previous CEO, I think her name was Susan.

She was the sister of the woman who is in charge of 23 and me. Yes. And she died of throat cancer. And after she died, they got a new CEO. And the CEO of Google said that they would reassessing. assess any channels that they deleted through COVID. And so I sent our stuff in to get looked at, but the problem was it was so long ago. And when we first started, we changed our emails so many times that none of us could remember

what the original email, what it was that we signed up with. Because we didn't have like our Edge of Wonder emails yet. So it was just like some like old email that that I. think I used or somebody used and we for the life. Yeah, for like three months, we were like racking our brains. I mean, we were going through every email we can think of. We even contacted other people. I'm like, what the heck? Finally, YouTube just sent us this email saying like, oh, you've been approved and you got your channel back, but we didn't have back in access to our channel. It's like, it's like we saw the same as everybody else. We couldn't go in the

back in. So finally, I, like, after like two or three months, I was like chatting with somebody from Google or from YouTube. And they're like, okay, we'll look at your channel and get back with you. And then within like 48 hours or maybe later that week, we finally got access back to it. So it's been a journey. To say that at least, it's definitely been a journey with porn sites. anybody. That's super tragic, too, dude. And the one thing that I would say about you guys, you know, we just had the Nidja's or Butterflies guys on,

and they kind of changed the game when it came to how you put out clips of your podcast. Everyone's doing their style now. And they're like, we got to come up with the next time. I'm like, you really don't. You guys have a great show. But I feel like you guys were the first of the super high-end production show. shows where it just kind of went from just a guy from a camera to like something that you would see on like television like it was that good. I was about to say that before Wi-Files,

they were it. Yeah. Before Wi-Files, I remember watching my group. I'm sure they love hearing that too. Yeah. You know, so, but you guys, you guys changed the game and that's why it's so super tragic. But, you know, in the end, I'm super happy you guys got it back. Probably had a great time too because a lot of stuff you guys like to talk about seems to be in the forefront and you know I know you guys are getting into the you know the reptilians and aliens and sci-fi and and paranormal and all that stuff and that seems hotter than ever so it's like it sure

it does suck you know but at least you guys got it back you guys can pick up uh where you left off hopefully yeah I definitely agree and that that's the wild thing you know especially like you brought up the reptilians you know we actually were thinking we had this whole series of reptilian that we did and we're like oh yeah you know we'll play and it's not just like random stories these are like real historical events that happened dating all the way back from the early 1900s actually leading all the way up to today where there's like witness accounts police reports things like that newspapers even talking about some of this stuff and that was pretty wild and then it's like right when we start we start publishing this

Then you have Grush, David Grush, coming out talking about how they killed the seven-foot reptilian and one of the crabs. You know, and it's like, it's wild because, you know, like even five years ago talking about this stuff was so fringe and weird, you know, it's like only the weird fringe channels would kind of bring. Yeah, or David Ike. Yeah. Or David Ike. Yeah. You know, and now it's like literally you have Jesse Waters and now talking. about these giant reptilians

on mainstream news now, you know? Does any of that make you nervous in a little way that it could be hijacked and used in ways that might be nefarious? What, wait, what do you mean? Like, what would get hijacked?

Well, like, you know, that the whole project Blue Beam stuff, like when you guys as an independent channel does it, there's to me more credibility to it. when Fox News starts talking about it, is there any way they could hijack the direction that it? They are, oh, they already have. I mean, I don't know what your Twitter feed looks like.

My Twitter feed is a, it's like a mishmash of politics and people reporting on UFOs and going through all of the stuff that we started talking about in 2018 and 2019. It's everywhere. People are talking about it now. And not only that, like, when you talk about it being hijacked, it always has been hijacked. I mean, the government has been spending billions of dollars since the 1960s and 70s on controlling this narrative. And, I mean, what happened as soon as Trump decided that they were going to start disclosing a lot of this stuff? Right away, you know, you see guys like Neil deGrasse Tyson on all of these media channels.

the biggest hater of this entire movement from the beginning, and he's still somehow weaseling his way onto these news programs, you know. Changing his narrative where before it's like, oh, it's impossible that aliens are here. Now he literally wrote a book talking about how it is possible now that aliens could be here. And it's like, whoa, what is going on here?

He was an interesting guy because he was starting to come out, talking about, you know, don't freak out about COVID. It's fine. And then all of a sudden, all of a sudden, this essay case comes out. And then he gets kind of pulled back in to the narrative. And now he's talking about a thousand genders and all this weird stuff that is not his expertise at all.

And I'm like, whoa, someone got tapped on the shoulder and had a talk. Hey, can we see another room real quick? Let's want to have a little discussion. with you about some of the things that we think it's important for you to focus on. But I think you're right. I think there's, I think that for every important thing that's getting discussed, there are a hundred psychological operations going on around those things to control those

narratives. You know, like think about all of the, there's so many talking heads of people on X that have huge accounts that are getting paid by entities. to say certain things. And then we're watching those people constantly, you know. And I think that it's very difficult to find out the truth right now on multiple different subjects, not just the UFO disclosure.

I mean, any time there's money involved in any industry, there's a massive amount of psychological operations and narratives that are going around to try to control what people are thinking. It's everywhere. It's impossible to find the truth. Yeah, I just feel like people don't even have a clue how much of a production is being put on to manipulate their minds and their spirits and their souls. Like we're talking into the trillions. Like everyone wants to talk about how much they spend on war.

That's probably not even close to the amount of money that they spend on psychological warfare to manipulate us into fighting with each other to thinking. Oh, yeah. You know, people you love. Like you remember during COVID you tell your family member who you who you die for like hey dude don't get this and they're like whatever and some guy on television told me it was safe and you're like you don't even know this dude and I'm your like son I'm your brother I'm your uncle whatever it is and they would just totally buy this. Yeah. And the amount of propaganda that goes into that is crazy. It's insane. Right?

It's insane. Actually like have you so there was a. Over the last year, I can't remember this guy's name right now, but I remember the government official. There was a guy that was in during the Reagan administration named John E. Harrington. And he was like, he became the, like the energies are during like the second, like the second round of his administration. And he had been briefed on all of this alien stuff. He was a really strong Christian.

And he was telling this story to one of his, like, one of his, I guess you could say, childhood friends. This kid had grown up right next to this guy when he was young. And then he had met him later on in life. And he saw that this guy, John, was in a, he just didn't look the same, like less healthy. And he started asking him like, hey, what's going on? And John was telling him that he had been briefed on all of this alien. disclosure stuff because of his position, like his top secret position in the Regan administration. And he looked at him and he was like, this is not the world I thought I was bringing my daughters into.

That guy, John E. Harrington, had revealed to him that when you go into, like basically when you go into a, you know, Barnes & Noble or something like that. And you see one of the alien books on the shelf, like take communion, a really super famous alien book, right? When you, like that could have a lot of truthful information in it, but the 10 books next to that were all funded by intelligence agencies to control the narrative. Billions, hundreds of billions of dollars have been poured into control that narrative. Like, why? Well, yeah. And that's, that's the biggest, that's the biggest thing.

You know, I don't even think people understand how much money and protection that, I mean, you know, this is where Majestic 12, the Men in Black, like all of this came about because they've been so protective over this. Now we have all these missing scientists. I really believe that this, and that was right before Trump was like, hey, we're going to declassify all these files related to UFOs. You, you know, it came out. The CIA destroyed like a million documents. There was earthquakes and fires happening at the same time around Area 51 when all this is going on. Yeah. Then you have all these missing scientists that are part of this too.

And so, you know, and I think that it's not just, you know, I don't really care. I don't think they care whether we believe in aliens or not. That's not really the purpose. But it's about the technology. I mean, can you imagine if they were like, yeah, I mean, the technology is. so advanced, one, we may not have any kind of defense against them, or two, the technology is so advanced that you can't even comprehend now the level of just insanity. I mean, like, bringing up something like time travel. Like, what if, what if there's documents that come out

saying that through like this alien reverse engineering technology, time travel came about or something, some kind of time travel device? I mean, this, this is not just going to like shake up people and have them think. I mean, this, this is going to send massive shockwaves into every government organization in the, in the world, you know?

And I think this is the real reason why they're covering it up is the technology. You know, obviously they, I mean, and they can always hide between or hide behind national security, you know, but in reality, it's,

it's like, I think they just don't want us to know what's going on either. I think I do. I think it's partly the technology and the national security issue, but then also if, you know, Roswell was true, which we know it was, right, since the late 40s, early 50s, they've been reverse engineering this stuff. And there have been, how many black operations have there been around alien activity or extraterrestrial activity since then?

David Grush is just the tip of an iceberg coming out and talking about this stuff. How many operations have they run where they're covert, people have been put in danger, or Americans have died, right? There's a reason why the Trump administration, even though with their best intentions of trying to disclose some of this stuff, that it's all been kind of a big nothing burger. Like we all know that there's way more. and it's because the Pentagon is still full, like full of people that have been involved in all of this.

And we're talking about potential crimes against humanity that they can be on the hook for. You know, everybody's trying to protect themselves. And it's, I do think national security and technology is a large part of this discussion. But then also we're talking about criminal activity here, most likely, you know. You're absolutely right, too. And that's coming out in some of these programs.

I mean, there's a guy. named Michael Schrat who's been researching this stuff for 30 years and he's looked at something like 50,000 military documents. And these aren't just documents saying like, oh, I saw a craft in the sky. These are people that were like, yeah, I was assigned to this base. I walked in, couldn't ask any questions and I was there to guard a craft that was in the hangar kind of thing, you know? And some of these people have stories how the these black ops military programs are using some of this technology to um for stuff like human trafficking you know can imagine like you know you think you're getting abducted by aliens but in reality it's like it's like humans doing it part of these black programs and they're uh you know abducting people for whatever i mean that follows up with the ben johnson interview with matt gates or which is one of my favorite interviews of all time because matt gates is like they're having i i i'm alien human hybrid breeding programs.

And Ben Johnson's like, oh, they're doing interracial. I'm like, bro, you've been on Pornhub way too much, if that's your reaction to that. Like, seriously, dude, that was a little look behind the curtain right there. But my question to you is, is it possible that they're now at a place where all the that they're leaking out is kind of really old news. And it's like, it's like the basic bit shit that they're so far beyond that because Roswell was, what, 50, 60 years ago or how old?

70, 70, which is an interesting number because that's right around like when Pfizer wanted to release all the COVID documents 70 years from now or whatever that number was like right around then, which is like, oh, we'll be dead by then. So it's like, it's kind of like, it's maybe even a little bit more scarier than even like what we're thinking right now that maybe they're so far past that they're like yeah let them know about this stuff it's all in the past and if there's anyone who knows about it we'll clean up all of it i remember um

i'm one of my best friends from high school he had a job where he was like dealing with like siding and houses and he one of the guys he was talking about he told me that he was he told my friend that he was in the military and like they had to go to area 50 what is it area 51 area 51 yeah yeah so he had to go to area 51 but he said area 51 is the

smoke screen it's like not the real thing that the real thing is a mountain 10 miles away and he said when we entered that mountain they made us back back up down the mountain and we could not look in the truck driving down we could not look

what we were driving by. They made sure we looked forward. So when we went there, we dumped and we gave them whatever we were delivering, then we went out. So that's the real stuff, what's really in there. You know, for me, it's like,

you started talking about technology. Like, I just found out that Tammy Faye and Jim Baker, was it Jim Baker and Pat Baker, that Pat Baker, whatever his name is, just died. I thought he died years ago. I thought the exact same. I thought the exact same.

thing. I was like, he's not dead. Exactly my thought. Yeah, you're waiting into Mandela effects now. That's what I'm thinking. And it's like, if they invented the internet, how easy is it for them to manipulate the internet? Like, you know, this Candace Owens lesbian story, they could just go back in to any website on the internet and place pages in there at dates that read like 20,

years ago, 15 years ago, 10 years ago, because they created the internet, they could control the internet. And then I'm not, yeah, I'm not like the biggest fan of, of Candace, no offense. Yeah, I mean, that's fine. But, but the thing is, like, when I saw all that stuff come up, I was like, who is actually believing this shit? Like, it, like, I felt the exact same way you did as I was like, this just looks like a, it looks like a setup. And I'm not defending her again. Like, I, I don't agree with most of the things she puts out or people around her necessarily, but it like, I think people just get deceived super easily. And then you just, you don't know, like, some of these things that people take for granted how much of the internet is just bots. Like, the dead

internet theory, the dead internet theory is, in 2016, when they were starting to come out with the dead internet theory, claiming that, like, maybe 85% of the internet was fake. I mean, think about how much more so that is now. I mean, there's a reason why those AI companies have been loading all of those books into AI. They've run out of, like, actual human interaction now. They're loading these books in because they need more information and they're going to run out of that soon. And then what? The bots are going to have nothing.

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You know, I just did kill Tony and it's, yeah, you did. This one show and it's like in the room, like you felt magic. Like, there are moments you're like, this is amazing. I remember going, wow, this is amazing to be a part of. I'm so lucky to be on panel for this moment. And then you go to the internet and you go to the chat room, you go to like the Reddit, and you go to like, you know, the comment section. And it's just a completely different experience.

It is. And I go, how much of this is actually real? Like, how many these are real people this upset about a comedy show? And I know. No, no, those are bots trying to control a narrative, 100%. Is there a way you can make a social media that, I mean, verify, like, really verified, it was a real person behind it? Well, you know, it's like, you remember Elon Musk was going to do that. He wanted to get rid of the bots and then suddenly he had to go on a trip to Israel.

That literally happened. Like he's like, we're Verification used to be We're getting rid of all the bots Come to, we gotta talk to you over here And then all of a sudden it just went Baw crazy, dude That's funny

I didn't think about that You're so right No, I think But I think that that's like a It is It's a it's a massive issue right now I mean also like if you If you look at data that's coming out

from TikTok, Instagram and even YouTube YouTube just changed their algorithm slightly for shorts, like the Reels that you can put on YouTube, because there has been such an influx of bots that are creating content now that they're trying to figure out a way to distinguish between human-created user-generated content

and bot content. And so now Reels are not going to be getting as many views as they used to. They're all dealing with this right now. Yeah. Are you saying that? Because reels are easier to make than a long form, A lot of format?

Is that what it is? Yeah. No, you can tell a bot to do something, though. Like you can say, you know, here's a video, cut this up, post it this time, just put some words on it. And that's why I'm seeing a lot of shorts, especially on Instagram, where the captions are just not exactly right. And I'm like, dude, these are all written by bots.

Like, I'm realizing that now, you know? And so these channels are just, they figured out how to utilize this, put it. stuff, chop it up with the bots and then just disseminate it out. I have a buddy who does that. And, you know, I had a friend of mine who I love, who is like one of the best conspiracy theorists out there. And he sent me a video on Chernobyl. And I was watching it for some premium content because I like to break down videos with people in the premium content section. And five minutes in, I go, I think this is all AI. And then I realized the whole, I had to Google the host, he's AI.

The story's AI. I see it all the time now. Especially history. Does it matter? The other day my girlfriend sent me something. No, the other day, my girlfriend sent me some thing of like 10 things that could kill your dog. It matters.

And she sent to me and I was like, do you know that's an AI girl narrating this whole thing? She's like, who cares? It's the message. No, no. I'll push it. Maybe like, oh, best ways to take care of your dog, maybe that doesn't matter.

But when you're making a statement that something's happening at, Chernobyl that nobody understands and you're showing footage of what looks like a wolf that's no one's seen for 50 years suddenly showing up and you're presenting it as security footage and it's not it's AI footage you're pushing a false narrative that is that is manipulating our culture at that point like you're presenting things that I mean I hate to use the word misinformation but that's really it is. misinformation if you're presenting AI footage as real footage, that's a big problem. Yeah. And there's another issue here too, which is that so everyone right now is using AI to

strategize their social media strategy, their business growth strategy and all of that stuff, right? So what's happened is AI not really, no. No, I mean, he's not, those jokes, sorry, dude. Yeah, no, I mean, I'll actually, like, it's very competitive now. So I'll try to get suggestions, but because I'm, because I'm, I'm, I'm like a designer. That's like my background. I'll, like, look at it half of the time and I'm like, screw this. This is not going to work.

And then I'll do my own thing. But they, like, these AIs are able to strategize social media. Like, there's been a massive influx of all of these, like, weird influencers coming out of the who have no business being on social media, trying to teach other people how to use social media. And their reels will get hundreds of thousands, millions of views. And everyone's doing that now. And this is what platforms like YouTube and Instagram are dealing with. There's so many more reels. There's millions. There's been 50 million new Instagram account or actually social media accounts since like 20, 21 or something like that.

You know, everyone's on Instagram and TikTok trying to win on business. And it's created a situation where now if you post something, it's hard to break through a thousand views. How do you compete with all of that? Right? It's all bots. We are in a war of attention. We are in a war of attention.

And, you know, I keep that in mind with my viewers. I'm very blessed that they come and they stick with us. We've been around 10 years. And obviously, some people come and some people go. but you got to you got to you know it's like whatever Hollywood does

do the opposite that's what I've learned it's like you know it's like I just Johnny and I watched a video on one of our podcasts of the lantern and the writers

discussing lanterns and you know discussing the process of making the TV show and it's such adversarial view of of entertainment

like how they talk about their their viewers is so adversarial yeah which i do not understand because that goes against every rule of business is like you're shitting on your audience it's like it's like so beyond stupid and and you wonder why hollywood is struggling why why it's so easy for these people to just come in and buy up everything because they're all struggling because they don't they you know they don't follow the golden rule of business which is the customer is always right So it's, it's kind of crazy. And, you know, now you had the bots, everything. There's just so much, so many different people out there fighting for, it's very competitive now.

And if you get any followers, it's a blessing. I totally agree. And then, you know, with Hollywood, too, you have all of these ridiculous actors who get criticized for bringing their politics into their work, which they shouldn't be doing at all anyway. And then when one of their movies bombs, because it's a bad movie, it's just a bad movie, they start attacking, you know, they start attacking all of the viewers and all of the audience. And it's like, that's not the guys. Like, you're digging yourselves a much deeper grave when you start doing that. And I mean, no one went to watch Supergirl, right? It wasn't that great of a movie.

But then, you know, other movies come out and they're doing really well. and then they start doubling down and attacking the audience even more. And then, you know, comic book, comic book audience is not going to, they're not going to stand for that. They're just going to stop watching you. I think the audience is getting more and more sophisticated. They can sniff a stinker out real quick, right? And, you know, and it's like, you know, Tom Cruise just had a bomb.

Like when was the last time you heard Tom Cruise have a bomb? He just had a bomb for Digger. And it was like even Hollywood didn't want to. touch it because it was such a propaganda piece. It was so blatantly propaganda to push the climate change the, you know, narrative while they're also building data centers which wreck your environment. It's like it's like some people are still caught in that because that gets into depopulation and all that stuff.

But people sniffed it and they're like, it's so hard to sell a ticket on, like I'm doing stand up now. I'm fighting for my life trying to sell a ticket. because like you like that's a sure sign like Trump can tell you the the economy's doing great go on the road man people are fighting for their lives out there totally I mean really is yeah it's it's yeah it yeah it the no and also the numbers he's looking at are not the numbers of ordinary people that are trying to get by right now and gas prices are like 450 across america oh 450 great yeah you guys are in california right yeah actually out here we're

Ben and I are in Florida. Out here, it's like four. You guys were in New York, right? And then you guys were. Dude, we, like, we moved because like, New York, Florida. I mean. I'm with you. I want to get out to Florida so bad.

You guys got to, there's so many great people in the conspiracy. I don't know, even if you consider yourself conspiracy. But in that space, there's so many great people out in Florida now. You guys should have been hooking up with all them. Yeah, there is. And there's a lot of events out here too and things like that as well. So yeah, it's been, it's been good. We're on each side of the coast right now.

So it's why we're not together, but we try to get together as much as we can. Do you guys see yourself getting back to the studios and doing all that stuff in the future? Like, finding a one place to meet in the middle or somewhere. Yeah. Honestly, it's just a, it's just like a funds issue, you know, like we're fighting for our life right now. Yeah. And it's just hard to get by. So, you know, and also we're.

We're about an hour and a half, two hours away from one another. So, you know, if we can turn the ship around a little bit, we're going to be putting out way more stuff. It's just hard because, you know, it's not just what was Edge of Wonder? I mean, Edge of Wonder wasn't just, you know, a couple of goofballs getting in front of the camera. There was an enormous amount of, like, production and attention that went into what we were doing. And to produce as much as we were producing, it was just a non-stop 24-7 thing. So we, you know, we've just got to like, we're also, you know, Ben and I started new shows. Ben's got a new show called Bending Reality.

And I've got a show called Metaphysical. And we're trying to make those work. And, you know, YouTube can give us our channel back and all of that stuff. But they've released, everybody knows this too. Like their algorithm released that they did in 2025 was just basically a system-wide shadow ban on anyone that's telling the truth. or even giving hope across multiple different cylinders of information, you know, news, politics for sure. We all know that's going to be censored.

I'll go a step farther, dude. I'll go a step farther. I think they don't forget you guys. They're like, yeah, you can have your channel back. It's called Tombstone Algorithms. I learned about this at World War Debate 1 where it's like, yeah, you could, like, have you noticed that people coming into the space that are brand new are getting huge numbers, doing almost the same thing you guys either did or are doing.

But yet, you guys, it's the same thing for us. Now, we've been blessed that their new system has bumped it up. And some of our, we've started to get the, not nearly like the old numbers we got. Like, you know, a great example of this is Greg Carlewood. If you look at who's the OG of this shit, who's one of the best shows out there, you go to his old episodes, hundreds of thousands. And now he's like, the rest of us fighting. to get 30,000, and that's none that gets Greg.

This is a pro-Greg statement. You know, it's like they haven't forgot about him. And the same thing with Apollo from two weeks ago. You go to some Apollo's old episodes, 300,000 views. You go to his new episodes, he's fighting again to get 30, 40, 50. I mean,

it's like they, and he's a newer app, he's a newer podcast. It's like they just, it's just really crazy, man. Like, we're seeing this in stand-up comedy. Like, you know, there's this whole thing serious radio my friend got a channel a bunch of comedians lost their uh their revenue from that and they want to lose and everyone's losing their mind but it's just the kneecapping of the gestures

it's the kneecapping of the people who are the only ones who could tell the truth to the kings and now it's just pop everything's pop now nothing is there's nothing serious and it and we're conditioning people that anything that is provocative is dangerous and emotionally you shut down to it because he's saying something that my upset the herd and they get very upset with it. And it's kind of crazy

because going back to the lizards and aliens and all that stuff, it's like, I sometimes wonder if they did this, if they just came out one day going, Trump's like, fuck it, here's everything.

Like, what would the reaction of the population? I think they're just so, distracted. Yeah. I don't think it's just, but I don't think it's just that. I think that there's an enormous amount of people in America

who would not be able to handle the truth. I mean, look at it right now. Every time there's a new alien story, there's people and droves lining up to talk, like to basically just call them demons. Oh, they're just demons. Like, why would,

this is just my opinion, okay? Why would a demon need to use technology? Demons have been on our culture for thousands of years operating in other dimensions that we can't see. And all of a sudden now, like, they're these technological things. I mean, think about how many different species of beings there are on planet Earth. And we think that there's not an infinitely more amount out there in outer space. And every single one of them are demons because it wasn't explained very explicitly in the Bible. That doesn't check out to me.

I was a demon guy for a very long time that was only demons. I've since changed my mind that's a combination of everything. The thing is like angels, aliens, you know what? I think that there, I think that's totally plausible that that, that, you know, there is a portion of that out there for sure, right?

But I also think that, you know, there's a lot we don't know. And they're so like they talked about four different alien races when in their releases recently. When Ben and I did an episode on this like five or six years ago now, we found at least 20 that were that were well backed up. But they're only talking about four. We just don't know like how many of these are good guys or bad guys. And not to mention the fact that, you know, if you're vibing on the level of a demon, you're a demon. Like you are.

It's just, you know, you may not be. like the biblical sense of a demon, but you're definitely vibing on that energy level, you know? Yeah. I think anything that's against humanity as a whole is basically acting as a demon in this case completely. And you know, you were kind of, and this goes back kind of to the AI conversation too, because now there's, being a researcher, there is so much stuff that's out there where so many people are sharing content now. It's like what you were talking about. talking about the Chernobyl that they all think it's real and it's presented as real, you know, footage or whatever. And then I'm going through it. I'm like, oh, my gosh, like,

all of this stuff is AI. That's Johnny with me all the time. Dude, this is AI. I'm like, damn. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's getting to the point where it's just like it's, it's, it's now I'm, I'm like most of the stuff I encounter, I feel like 70% of it is AI at this point. You know, and this wasn't an issue previously. It was, more like, okay, is this Photoshop or whatever. And now with how advanced, just within the last two years, I can't believe how advanced the AI videos are getting. Yeah.

And, you know, they can be longer now. Now, it's like whenever I see a video that's like 12 seconds or less, I'm like, my instant thought is it's probably AI if it's only 12 seconds long. I think that's a safe place to be here. I'd rather be that than be like, whoa. Right. And now it's like 30. My girl can't stop sending me videos of a hyena laughing.

That's all. Anything with animals is fake. Yeah. And he tells a joke and hyena goes crazy. And she's like, oh my God, he laughed again. I'm like, it's AI. There are whole Instagram channels dedicated to certain pets doing hilarious that are all fake. Or AI comedy.

Have you been sent a joke that's AI comedy? And you have to tell this person it's AI comedy. They don't care. Wait, what now? A comedy. Like a person on a video. A hot chick doing a funny joke, and my homie sends it to me. She's like, that's so funny.

I'm like, bro, you're there because she's hot. HBO, give her a special if she keeps it up. But to me that the funniest part is, is that kind of points out, you know, the Edge of Wonder guys aren't co-sying on this. This is Sam speaking. That is like a big part of female comedy. It's like they're just hot chicks telling jokes. And now you get an AI and you're like, you just took out the hot chick and you just put a hot person.

Oh, dude, that's what you should do, man. And you should create an AI hot chick and put the clips out coming out of her mouth. I just have bad angles, dude. That's what I'm saying. You would kill it. We just put a hot chick. You write the jokes. She delivers them on Instagram.

You get millions of you. That's hilarious. He's got a point, he's got a point, Sam, like, you know, bad angles with the hot chick delivering might actually do some. Might reach a lot of people. Suddenly I have the greatest comic ever. We can make the girl, we can make the chick black so she can say your N-word jokes. It's like, late. It's like, I want to apologize.

to the edge of the other guys. It's your version of ladybugs. You infiltrate the comedy scene as like, this up-and-coming hot shake. I can't believe it. She's so funny. She's got the joke to a 20-year comedy. I just think it's hilarious, dude.

I just think, you know, you know, I have a show where we have AI, but so obviously AI. It's like doom scrolling, but, you know, I mean, it's okay to use AI if you're helping someone visualize a part of a story. Yes, yes, yes. And you're kind of forthright about that.

Who cares? But like you said, if it's a news agency doing that Or someone with a documentary trying to make claims about Chernobyl or something, You better have that crap like stated and backed up and it's a different way, you know? But I'm going to say this about AI like if it's trying to present itself as something noble or incredibly important It just rings hollow. It just it's like everyone's worried about AI music and I'm just like It just soulless to me. It doesn't.

There's nothing in it that makes me go, you're like, when you listen to DMXing, you know, when he was with us, like there's passion with that. You feel it. You feel his anger. You feel his passion about what he's saying. I've never felt that with an AI song ever, ever. Okay. So the other day, I needed this graphic for some. So I need this graphic for We Don't Spunk the Same.

I asked AI to kind of make it for me. Then I grabbed and I told a real artist, can you make it better and real? Yeah. With your touch. Yeah. And it came out. way better. It was a mixture because I didn't know how to tell her my idea. So I had AI. Yeah. Put it together. Then I sent it to an artist. I do that with thumbnails. I'll get the idea

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kidnapping people doing dark stuff and blaming it on some crypted in the night coming and snatching the kids and you could even get into like jack the ripper and the thoughts that you know did he actually work alone was he an actual guy or was it this secret society that was doing this very dark stuff because where the bodies are found are very specific and all that stuff so i find that very interesting Like how much of how much of the things we've learned in the paranormal are actually real and like as as it's presented to us and how much of it is actually like maybe even something darker. Mm-hmm. It could very much well be the case. I think there's both elements to this too. I mean, there's so many things that we just don't know, you know. And there's there's, I mean, like you take something like Bigfoot, right? I mean, every culture on the planet dating back nearly thousands of. thousands of years have a term terminology for bigfoot every single one you know so it's like you take something like that that's very very fascinating but then at the same time there's there's people

who are willing to go to any lengths to get to to achieve what they want to achieve yes and that is doing dark rituals yes and the thing about some of that I mean the thing the other aspect is like they know that this stuff is real and what they're pulling in and what they're trying to bring into these things. And I think that's another reason is like that saying, you know, the greatest trick was to prove to the world that the devil didn't exist, you know,

or the devil's greatest trick. We got what you're trying to say. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, you know, and I think it's the same thing with this. It's like, oh yeah, you know, in reality, it's like they know these things are real because they are working with this stuff,

these dark forces, these demonic things, these alien things. whatever basically they'll they'll work with whatever they can to achieve their goals and and and that's where it gets really dark and disturbing and you know and a lot of aspects it's like we're just kind of in the way where they see us as food and that's the other disturbing what if we if we were going to get into what cryptids are there's a lot of discussion on them are they a form of wild animal are they a form of another human are they a form of another human are they

interdimensional. There's also thoughts that maybe they come from beyond the wall and somehow they escaped. And that's why when they show up, you know, the authorities are everywhere and they get rid of it. What are your guys's thoughts on cryptids? I would definitely say mostly interdimensional. I mean, they all seem to be extremely highly intelligent and even telepathic to a certain degree. So it's like, you know, why can't we find Bigfoot? You know, know it's like people see big foot and it goes behind a tree and then all of a sudden it just like seems to disappear and um doing all this research and talking to so many people and even rob and i have kind of had some small experiences related to bigfoot um yeah yeah we have

in florida you see some shit by the way florida there's skunk apes in florida yeah florida's some crazy stuff really florida's nuts and if it's not if it's not a cryptid it's a crackhead in Florida. So sure. But yeah, no, so I think that, you know,

like there's a, people see a lot of orange orbs associated with Bigfoot. And, and I think that, you know, they're just kind of traveling interdimensionally.

And maybe that's just their way, you know, and it's like, well, how are they doing this? Well, I mean, it could be anything,

you know, if their, their, their minds are very, very much evolved. I mean, it's not just an animal. Um,

that they, they, they, they, their ability to think about these things. I mean, in reality, we can do this stuff too. And I think that's the ultimate goal. You know, everyone's like, well, what do the aliens want, really?

And I think it's us. I think that we are the prize. Like genetic material. Genetic, yeah. And I think that's why they're pushing cloning so much. And the hybrids, all of it, I think the ultimate goal that I see, my understanding, I know this is going to sound kind of nuts. But I believe that they would want to replace the human race.

It's like they have the technology, but they're in these kind of, you know, strange animalistic bodies where it's like if they had their technology and our bodies, because they know what the human body is capable of more than we do. And I think that's why they want us because it's like eventually they would replace. they would put their consciousness inside future clones and slowly they would replace the human race. I mean, already it's hard for humans to reproduce. Like there's so many men like men that are infertile and then women that just can't get pregnant. And it's already happening on a massive scale. And I think that is their end goal to be perfectly honest. and, you know, because everyone's like, oh, well, why would they invade us?

Like, what do we have here? You know, and it's like, we are the prize from my understanding. So I really don't think that's going to happen. You know, I think there's a lot of divine positive forces here from like God and angels and all kinds of positive entities that are here that are resisting that. And I think that behind the scenes, there is this kind of cosmic war that's happening. I mean, even the Bible, every religion talks about it. And I think that is actually happening.

And, you know, and if we could like just kind of see through the veil, it would be like insane the scenes that we would see before us. But I do think that we're being protected in this case. Well, and I think that, you know, okay, so that one instance or one theory is, you know, certain cryptids may have certain interdimensional abilities that we're, We just don't understand, right? But then if you, if you, like, really delve into what we can find out about, um, uh, past cultures like Atlantis and things like that, when, when you really look into that, it looks like that civilization got so advanced and rotten and then a flood came and wiped them out, right?

If, if you look at, I'm, I'm more, so much more likely to believe stories like, Hercules now than I was in the past after like really looking at all of this stuff over a long period of time because what was Hercules doing like a lot of his a lot of his feats that he did while he was here allegedly were you know killing things like the minotaur and Atlantis was supposedly mixing genetics like human genetics with animal genetics what if they created a bunch of like wacky beasts that you know shouldn't they don't belong among humans and it was just Hercules's job to just go through and start destroying these things. I know how crazy that sounds, right? I love it. But, but, but, but it's like, you know, when you think of like what, what the Bible actually said about like the

Nephilim or what we know, right? One translation was giants, which totally could be. I mean, there's a lot of, of, of evidence that there were giants, you know, being dug up in Ohio. I mean, President Lincoln even talked about the giants in the Ohio River Valley, right? Um, but another translation, you know, was that these were, that these fallen angels had come down had, had relations with human women and then created the champions of old. Well, so these were like demigods, half god, half human. It makes you think of a character like Achilles much different when, when you look at it through that lens. Like, these were humans with greater abilities who couldn't necessarily die the same way that a normal human would. Right. So I think cryptids, if you really want to have your brain totally blended, you should look into like dog man encounters. Like the dog man encounters YouTube channel actually that's that's out there. If you were like I've spent man, man, man, so many hours going through these experiences that people have had. And then I know. people personally, like multiple people who've had encounters with Dogman. And when they tell me

their stories, like it's, they're, it's, they're terrifying stories, right? And then a bunch of like different people in the army having these stories of encountering these things at different bases and things like that, right? This like bizarre apex predator. And then there's, there's the, you know, the story of the land between the lakes, which is, you know, between Kentucky and Tennessee, where allegedly there was like a battle going on between Bigfoot and Dogman for years. And this area, which is now a national park, before it wasn't a national park, all of a sudden the government commandeers this land and it becomes a national park. Like it gets into this bizarre mystery of like what, where do most people in the United States go missing?

It's in national parks, right? Yes. And why did the government commandeer that land? And of course, some of it is their beautiful land, of course. Right. But when a lot of the stories out there are coming out about that, and then you have these stories of people encountering these things that they don't feel like they can talk about.

Like, what's interesting about the dogman encounters that I've come across are most of these people do not want people to know their name. They don't want anyone to know that they're the one telling these stories because they're afraid of the ridicule. around this. Like, we've developed a society where we cannot talk about monsters in the dark that we've seen if we've actually had legitimate encounters because our entire lives are going to get destroyed by everyone ridiculing us into, you know, nothingness, essentially. And so this is how it becomes very difficult for humans to actually be forthright about the things that they're

seeing. One of the craziest things that I've encountered on the cryptid front, is I was out in Arizona. I was visiting a buddy, and I talked to one of our mutual friends who was a part of one of the Indian, Native American tribes there. And he was being brought up in his tribe to, I don't know what their official term for this is, but he was going to be the one that passes down verbally the stories for his culture. Right? And I asked him, I was like, what do you think?

like Bigfoot and the dog man are. And he was like, yeah, we have stories about these in our culture. And he said, you know, how it was described to me is, if you see these in the woods, don't approach them, just let them be. And I was like, why? And he said, because they're leftovers from a previous civilization. And you're just supposed to let them be. Interesting.

Yeah. So, so, you know, maybe because they're so. they're much like we don't know what the what the previous world was like i agree i mean there are so many giants weird little beings that people have seen strange human beings with like wolf heads that have been like even herodotus the first historian was talking about these creatures that he had heard about right what if they were leftovers from previous civilizations and there's just fewer of them and then also like marco polo and his travels on marco polo's deathbed he said that he turned He told like 20% of the things that he had actually seen because he knew no one would believe him.

And he was seeing like these things called blemys, which were like humans with no head, a body on there, like a face on their. He saw monopods. Monopods, yeah. Dude, like, okay, so if you heard of monopods, Sam? No, what is a monop? A monopod is a human being with just one leg instead of two. And people would see them throughout history. Huge feet.

Huge feet. They would hold their feet up to block themselves, to block the sun from hitting them. And so all these pictures of them, you see them holding their foot up to block the sun. And it looks ridiculous. It's like, ah, these were just some some Renaissance people on crack that had engraved these. Because, like, how could you believe that? But think about it. How do you come up with a crazy story like that?

Like, that's such a weird friggin story. Hold on. They have one foot, one leg. And they use it to block the sun. Yeah. So imagine like your your legs kind of as one leg and then one gigantic. That's it. Yep.

There you go. That's them. That is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And Marco Polo described all this stuff. You know, the other thing that's really interesting is that all, most of his travels was through the land of Tartaria.

And on all ancient maps up until about 1850, when, when Darwin really kind of started. take in shape, the word Tartaria started getting removed from maps. And they just say it was more of an area, not a nation, but then Rob and I did a whole series about it. We found flags. We found that it was a land of a very specific people, and they were very different. In fact, that's where I think giants might have actually descended from in that area with the land of Tartaria. And part of the the Great Wall of China is facing the other way of China, meaning that it was built on the other side. To keep China out.

Yes. And then the Chinese emper's, you know, the Yellow Emperor found it. And then they started adding on to it and then building it on the Chinese side. So, you know, and there's a lot of like ancient relics and ruins and all kinds of things that would go along with this. He also described seeing like the Toronto Source. like upright walking lizards and all kinds of things like that and uh you know it's all throughout as travels and it's so fascinating when you really get into the stuff and i think all of this has

been hidden from us on purpose because they don't want us to know i mean it wasn't even it was like a common knowledge that people didn't believe in giants prior to like 1930s it was just common knowledge that giants were real. It was like everyone just knew it. It wasn't until like, you know, the Smithsonian started really kind of taking hold of this stuff. All the, all the skeletal remains just kind of disappeared. And it went from common knowledge to a belief to then it was just like laughed at, you know? Yeah. And I think a lot of show up out of nowhere, you know. Yeah, exactly. Uh-huh. While the Chinese zodiac has all these real animals and a dragon, but we're supposed to believe the dragon doesn't exist.

It was just something put out. Yeah, you know, if you ask me, I think the world before the floods was like Harry Potter meets Game of Thrones. Like it was mysticism, sorcery, wild beast, and all that stuff. And then it just got all wiped up. And we, you know, there's different understandings of what happened after that, you know, who survived, who didn't survive, and who influenced. the direction we go in.

And it's, it's kind of crazy to me how, like, people can just buy into dinosaurs. And I just think they're all dragons and cryptids and all that. Totally agreed. Exactly.

You know, the other thing, too, on Netflix, there's a new Unsolved Mystery Show, and there's an episode called paranormal Rangers. And these guys that are in the Navajo, there are police officers in the Navajo Nation. They've been on a police force for 30 years.

And it's, their story and they actually have physical evidence of videos, photos, all kinds of stories of all these strange cryptids. They even have like hair. They have hair samples. They have hair samples. They did an excellent job with this. They were, they had, it was like, it was the same director for some of the stranger things.

I forget his name right now. But, but it's like they went into it. just like we're not going to have any preconceived notions. We just want to tell your story. And if you don't believe in this stuff, watch that episode and it will definitely convince you otherwise. Ryan Burns, have you guys ever talked to him from Skimwalker Ranch? I know who he is.

He's a good friend of mine. Dude, he tells some crazy stories. And, you know, some of them are just simple, really, really similar to what the ninjas are Butterfly guys came and talked about a dog man, a dog man, like about the attacker guy, and he shoots them and they run off. And then, like, later on, they found three people and three different houses with the doors lock,

dead from gunshot wounds. What? Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, the Ninja Butterflies guys talked about how he's, like, great-grand- or, like, somebody that they were talking to, great-grandfather, you know, shot a dog man or something. It was a white coyote.

A white coyote. And then they found like the old lady who lived in a log cabin by herself. They tracked the blood of the coyote and then and the footsteps. And then they lost the footsteps. But the blood continued to the door of this Native American woman who was there, like famous in the community for being kind of like an outcast kind of person. And then they entered. illegally probably and found her body there.

She's dead. Yeah, she's dead. Her body dead. Shot in the same place as the coyote. Wild, wild, wild stuff. Wow. That's the stories that keep me up at night and keep me going right there. I love that stuff.

Me too. I just think it makes the world so much more interesting. So my buddy Eddie Bravo has these theories that the reason we have so many movies about the horrors of the forest and the horrors of the ocean is that they're trying to scare us from going into the forest and going into the oceans. And there's a lot of discussion right now about what's going on in our oceans because we've studied space supposedly more than we studied the ocean, which is very weird to me because we're 80% water on this

planet. Like, why haven't we been looking at it? And it's kind of crazy also when you take it the fact that like the biggest arm of the military is like everybody thinks it's like the army, but it's it's the Navy. Navy. Yeah. Well, and I think that's why I think that's exactly it. I don't think, I think they have explored all the stuff. They're finding some weird, weird things down there. And they just don't want us to explore too much about it because, because of that. If we try to explore, we're just like, let's just go. We'll dive. We'll see how to go.

You know, I actually have a friend here, and his ex-girlfriend was swimming, which I guess now, like they renamed to the Gulf of America. But anyway, she was snorkeling there. And they took a dive. They were pretty deep underwater. And she encountered pyramids under there. And she tried to, they tried to market on the GPS. exactly where it was.

She ended up going back a couple weeks, maybe a couple months later, but they couldn't find it. And he was like, yeah, man, it's super weird. And I was like, this is the kind of stuff. You know, Mermaids is another thing. You know, it just sounds total fantasy. But there are so many stories out there right now revolving around that. I actually talked to a Navy. So a couple years ago, it was.

It was a really, it was really big in the news where they found a massive look like, it looked like a shark. It literally the whole thing looks like a like a 50 foot shark that was underwater using sonar. And what they, you can look it up and what they came back with, because it looked like a megaladon. And what they came back with, they were, they were like, oh, no, this is this is a school of fish that the massive school of fish that just looks like a big shark that was. Oh, yeah. Of course. My ass. Yeah.

Okay. So I talked to a guy in the Navy and that's what he did. He literally would study sonar and charts and all this stuff. And he's like, dude, he's like, that is definitely not fish because he's like, I can tell you the difference. And he was like showing me. He's like, if this was a school of fish, each one of these fish would register on the sonar chart. And he's like, I would be able to decipher that. this is one object.

He's like, there's no way that this is a school of fish. And he was like, I've been on submarines and everything. And it was just like a random encounter. In fact, we got in an argument about conspiracies that I happen to show him one of our videos. And he was just like, oh my God, dude, I know who you are. I was watching your show about critics. That's cool.

And then his whole tone switched from being like fighting, you know, arguing and to be like, oh, what about this? What about that? And then he brought that up. He's like, did you know what? And I was like, yeah, we just recently talked about this. And he's like, yeah, dude, it's definitely, definitely one giant creature that was there. Awesome.

So he said, you know, deep underwater, it's so easy for these things to hide. And if there was some kind of global catastrophe, anything that's, you know, super deep underwater will probably be okay. And he's like, that we could have creatures down there that did survive. multiple agents. Yeah, if you're in the water and there's a flood, you're good. Oh, that's just more water. Exactly. What about the flood? What do you guys think of the ark? Oh, they think they discovered the ark? It's the same spot that they've been studying for a while. Yeah, yeah. Have you guys followed that? Yeah, we actually just had a show on that really recently. We've been calling that out for years too. Not that like we discovered her or anything, obviously, but just that, you know,

what they found on Mount Air at was actually the Ark. And then, you know, what I find really mysterious is there are all of these ancient civilization sites, which, you know, if you even look at like something like Malta or Sardania, they have all of these ancient civilization sites and they call all of these sites, you know, these old religious sites from the old world. but like the rocks are way too big for humans to move. There's so much more mystery going on there than anyone knows. And why aren't we sending scientists there? Instead, we're having our physicists do the most useless things in space, you know, that isn't going to help human civilization at all. They're like, well, we want to know how life developed.

Let's throw billions of dollars into this. It's like, why don't we go look in our backyard at some of these ancient civilization sites and actually figure it out, which those scientists, have the balls to do at Mount Arrow at. But it's like, which, think about it, there's hundreds of these sites around the world.

Why don't we just actually give it a go and research those? But, but of course, it's the same story with, they're protecting the narrative here. I mean, anything that would change certain theories that scientists have come up with

about our origins, about how long we've been here. Yeah. If these sites are real and they've gone back, hundreds of thousands of years instead of thousands of years it changes everything and it creates a massive problem for science and then they've lost control over you know what the majority of people out there think yeah yeah and you know so going back to the the arc so you know some of the facts where they they used it go for drones so they they dug a hole deep underground and what they were looking for was either to see if it was rock if it was all rock then it then it wasn't a It's not a structure. Yeah. But what they found was a huge amount of petrified wood.

Then the other aspect was there's a huge giant stone that is carved into with a hole in the center or the hole on top. And that's used for an anchor. And the old ships used to use these stones as anchors. That's another aspect of it. Then they just the other, before they were released. all of the information that they had just a couple weeks ago, the main, uh, the main person on the team, his home was broken into. Oh my God. Everything was stolen. And to me that's that's that crazy. That's proof right there. Yeah, this is what we're up against. Yeah, they just don't want us to

know our true history. Like you guys are in, uh, Florida. You know, Dr. Narco Longo is like really big into old Florida and like what like Florida is a lot more special than people think and I think a lot of the PR about Florida man and all that stuff and we've made jokes about today but that's done on purpose so that no one takes it serious when I think the history of Florida dates back way longer than they want us to believe you know he talks about the moors had colonized Florida way before you know um a Columbus guy here dude like I'm I'm part Sicilian part more so that that's a very interesting part of history dude that everything was going on you know and you bring up to taria you know I think there's been there's something to what you're saying because I think there's this

sciop to kind of hijack the narrative of tataria and make it look like some wild like crazy conspiracy theory when you say hey man there is actual evidence of this existing you know and you know we've just did an episode on orphan trains and you know we've talked about this before on the show where it's like they've had us focus on a small small section of history like man grew up in caves and they're like yeah look at this they were in caves and you're like well what if that's the only what if you're only focusing on a little part. What if you zoom out? Like if you look at our modern day, I've said this before, if you go down to South America, there's the Yamamamo. Like they're still living in huts. But we also have Tokyo at the exact same time. But if you only focus, if historians

from the past only focus on the Yamamo, you would think we're all still running around living in huts and hunting with spears. And it's like, that's just a part of the spectrum. Like a, like, the Star Trek worlds, right? Where you land and the whole thing looks exactly the same. Yeah, it's crazy to me. So like the notion that even in America, like, where do all these buildings come from that like just like my hometown? It's like you go to my hometown of Cortland, New York, our city hall is a gorgeous building. It's just a gorgeous building. And then it's like track malls and all that other stuff all around it like every city in America. Who built that building? And, you know, Johnny and I getting discussions of it, you know, and I appreciate a skepticism because I think it's important.

But like a lot of times you'll see pictures of buildings and they're just doing renovations, but they present it as they're building it when they're really doing like on my lunch break breaks that down all the time. Like he'll read the articles of like, oh yeah, they shipped it out from here at this time. They shipped half of it. They shipped half the building together across continents. Like it doesn't even make any fucking sense, man. But we just read it and move on with our lives. No, and I think that that's, this is the biggest problem with the old world, too,

is the flood happened, right? We have proof of that now. I mean, obviously with the arc being proven true. And just in the Chinese actually have documentation going back specific date of like 4,600 BC or something like that. Because the monks went to the mountain and they saw a huge, you know, huge flood that happened. So you can actually, there's credible evidence to back up the flood as well.

So, right. So we know the flood happened, right? And, you know, you've got, you've got all of these, if it was a massive civilization that had been created, which we know, even the Bible talks about that, that they had gotten basically rotten and God created a flood to wipe everything out. We have no idea what their technology was, how advanced they were, what they had built, right? So after the flood, you have people who survived on the ark and probably went underground for a bit, you know, in places like a Becli-Tape or whatever survived, and then they come up

and they're looking for a place to set up shop. Well, where do you think they're going to set up shop? They're going to find old ancient civilization structures that were made of rock, which basically is impossible to grind down and they're going to start building on top of those and that's how we got Rome, right? Or Malta. You go to Malta and

in Malta where they have multiple different bases and different things that they've set up some of the rock are way too massive for humans back then to have moved and then you have smaller rock built on top of those and this is across the entire world you find this. Egypt, everything. Egypt,

yeah, like the pyramids as Well, you know, there is not one bit of evidence that the Egyptians created the large pyramids. They created the smaller ones and they recorded everything that they built. They did not write anywhere that they built those large pyramids. What happened? The humans were looking for a place and they were like, hey, here's a good place. There's massive pyramids here. Let's build everything around it.

And, you know, hey, let's build some smaller pyramids because we're a sprawling civilization now. we should try to rival those or, you know, give some like homage to those things. And they build a bunch of small ones that they can because no one's going to build something as massive and as heavy as the original pyramids. Right? This is across the entire world. The Mayans in South America, they just moved right in. And bears in Michigan move in empty houses and be like, this is my cave. I made this.

You're like, he didn't make that, dude. And it's like, no, I live here. No, and actually, and actually, sense. Central America is one of the most interesting places, like when you start looking into those old mech heads that are down there in Central America, which were like just as heavier, heavier than the pyramid blocks. Like some of them were like 60 tons. No one's moving those. And they just started digging them up. And come to find out like their civilization back during Rome was just as big or bigger than Rome or even before that.

You know, sorry, Ben. What were you going to say? I forget. Sorry, buddy. I get that too. I get that too all the time. I'll think about it. Yeah, I mean, like there's just different stories. We've had guys on and people kind of ridiculed them at the time. You, Ben, you go on before you lose it again. Yeah. So what I was going to say, so a lot of people don't understand how they carbon date things, you know?

And so you can't carbon date stone because it's going to come back as like a billion years or whatever it is, right? So what they do, they carbon date the tools around it. So the large, the large pyramids, were never carbon dated. What happened was they were like, oh, here's a, here's a broken pot. We'll carbon date this. Oh, this is 3,000 years ago. Oh, okay, this must be 3,000 years ago. Oh, yeah. So that's how they do it.

And that's why there's a lot of controversy about exactly when things were built. Because, you know, once again, if you encounter a large area that's all made of stone, like Stonehenge, you can't you know you can't really exactly give it a date because it's like well there's if there was only only if there was tools or things that were found in the area could be or even or even something on the surface of the rocks that they can carbonate which you know you get down to a certain point and you don't have any material that you can carbonate anymore yeah and going back to the flood like i've had i've i mean i've watched videos on it but and we've had guest on talking about how, oh yeah, it was the Grimerica guys were on,

talking about how the erosion on the pyramids fits to water erosion. Like water had to be that high. Yeah. To be able to erode that long, that much, which fits into a great flood. Yep, exactly. Yep.

And so that's why I, and also when you look at how, especially Machu Picchu and you take like how the stones and the cities were being built there look at Egypt and even the Aztec you start seeing a very

common theme of how these were built and so that's once again I do think that these were built by like in a way older civilization you had some kind of global catastrophe then everything kind of recedes

I mean we already know like the Sahara desert used to be a rainforest and was underwater because they found whale bones in the desert. And the Nile used to run east to west instead of south to north. So, you know, so it's like the whole landscape was different back then. Then what do you think? And so I think. I'm sorry, where we can. I was just going to ask.

No, where we can? What do you think of the pyramids are? Do you think it was like a power plant or because they got the pillars that they're talking that underneath the pyramids? What do you think about that? I know. I think that that could very well be the case. I think there's probably multiple uses for them. I mean, the great pyramid, the main entrance is really like 30 feet. And that's why I mean, if you think about, you know, everyone was a big discussion like who built the pyramids. Well, if you had giants that were like 20 feet tall, like them, you know, you have 10 of them lifting up a stone. That's not much different from, you know, having 10 guys picking up. a big desk or something like that. No, I'm with you on that.

So it's like, yeah. So it's not that, it's not that far fetched to think. But I mean, some of those stones on the Great Pyramid are as big as a house, literally. You know, there's no way that any, no slave labor or anything could, it could even accomplish that. No, no, no, no modern trucks. No, not even with our modern trucks or anything like that. I mean, you know, and in, and the pyramids are just.

They are the supreme mystery on the planet, for sure. You know, on the metaphysical podcast that I do, I work with a remote viewer named John Vavonko. And we decided, yeah, we decided to look into the peer. It was a really interesting episode because he doesn't just use his own remote viewing data. He has a team of people and he'll task it out to multiple people and then give the data that comes back from all of them, basically. and that's how you get like a 90th percentile of accuracy with your data, right? Yeah, and he, like, his take on the pyramids was really interesting

because there's multiple things going on, just like Ben said, but one of the major reasons that they were using those was for intergalactic communications. What? You put, if you put a, like, you know, they had a completely different culture and technology back then, like pre-flood. we don't know what they were using or what abilities that they were using

that they had cultivated or what, but apparently, the pyramids increase your psychic abilities by, like, an enormous amount. Oh, I should not go near them. I'll be too. You can communicate, like, into, like, intergalactically through these things.

And one of the things that he said is that when his team would look into, um, um, objects on other planets, like, you know, when you start talking about Mars and some, with these other planets, every single one of the planets when they would task on it would have structures like pyramids. Yeah. I mean, even Mars, you have the pyramid on Mars. What's the Olympus?

Olympus Mars is it called or something like that, you know, and they call it it, they say it's a big mountain. A big mountain. It's like the biggest mountain in the solar system or something. But, but, that's where the face of Mars is and everything else. And it's like, you know, if I was NASA, that would be the first place that I would want to research. Instead, we're on the opposite side of Mars in like a middle of a desert. Like, what are we really doing over there? Olympus Mons.

Olympus Mons. Right. Olympus Mons. Yeah. And, you know, yeah, but when you take Mars and you look at what they say are the just mountains, there's like three of them in a row.

And they do line up with the pyramids of Egypt. Same thing. same thing with the pyramids of the the the the mountains in antarctica as well there's three of them there and they also match up with the pyramids of egypt so there's definitely something going on and i wouldn't be surprised that there was more more of these in our solar system uh and that that could be why you know they want to go to other planets so bad to maybe see if they they could find them there on other moons or whatever it is. I think they're looking for technology everywhere they go.

I mean, you know, of course. You know, if any, we have no idea what the military industrial complex is up to now. They're outside of any control. They're outside of any, anyone overseen. We don't know who controls the military industrial complex. And, you know, if you look at some of the whistleblowers that have come out about stuff that's going on, down in Antarctica, you know, green laser beams being shot into the sky, the, you know, the ice cube neutrino detector.

You know, why, why are they detecting neutrinos? Because neutrinos, apparently, you can have faster than light communication with neutrinos. Look at how they line up. Isn't that cool? Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, you know, I said Olympus Mons, but it's Sedonia region on Mars. I think it's in the same area, but I could be wrong about that. the one and the image we're looking at in the top left corner.

Yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, then he has the other three. Yeah, it's crazy. And, you know, the CIA did their own remote viewing on Mars in that area of Sedonia. Yes. In the 80s. And what came out of it was, you know, and the remote viewer went into a blind. And he was super confused.

But he said there was a, it was a, it turned out to be a million years ago on Mars that there were these beings there that are taller than us. he described them as like they had like clothing that was like skin tight kind of clothing but there was a disaster that happened on Mars and that they were scared and hiding and they were they were they were looking for an alternative planet to move themselves to because Mars was dying basically yeah well that's so interesting because there was just that story last week did you guys I mean it's been said many times but there was just recently in like popular mechanics the story about how there was an there's evidence for an alien civilization on Mars that was wiped out by a nuclear holocaust of some variety from space was I don't know how something about the particles they detected in the atmosphere

of Mars and in the soil suggested that it was like it was an attack from space though like a new did you did you have you ever seen that scar that scar on the surface of Mars that like massive gash in Mars like that had to have something to do with it it's crazy

it's like it has bad acne It's like the, it's like the, it's like the, uh, it's like the, uh, it's, uh, Danny Trejo. Yeah, 100%. Um, that's hilarious. So we won't keep you much longer, but, you know, because, uh, so going back to Dr. Narco Longo, he has some wild theories about America and it's definitely hidden history. And that America, like, how deep does the deception go? Like, his whole theory is that.

that the whole idea that the Middle East is where, you know, all these religions came from and, you know, the state of Israel is all these holy sites. His theory is that the Garden of Eden and a lot of the religions were born out of America and that there's a lot more going on here than they want us to know. And again, that goes into Florida and stuff like that. Mexico, he thinks, He said it and then he kind of pushed I felt like he didn't say saying he didn't say that But like a lot of like Islam I came out of Mexico

Like this whole area was a lot more Of a hotbed of like Of a of just philosophical and religious thinking Like the birthplace of it I find that very interesting to me And again it fits into the orphan trains Advanced civilizations in America you know it's like that guy on on um what he was on rogan did he say anything before the

1600s he doesn't he doesn't uh believe any of the history they told us like it was just a totally different history and they're just lying to us about anything before the 16 before like probably like modern day recordings actually became something like everything before that is a giant lie well there's there's like this whole theory that there's like a couple hundred years that is missing from our history and then the calendar changed too and you know it's it's strange it's like a whole month was deleted from our calendar which because if we had an extra month then then all of a sudden every every every month of the year has 28 days and you know it's like why are why do we have uh september which is uh uh seven as like nine november is is nine

and it's 11, you know, December is 10 and it's 12. And it's like, things just don't completely line up when we, when we switched over to the, what is it, the Julian calendar now. And then, um, yeah. And then also there's, there's that whole thing where there's like a 13th Zodiac sign too, which would actually fit. It's called like Ophi, Ophysicists or something like that. I can't remember the exact name of it.

But, um, but it just seems that something, some, I just feel like there is, something and then it's like oh we call it the dark ages but it was was it really the dark ages you know so it's like yeah i i think that at some point along the way you know the whoever whoever wins in wars are the ones that always write the writes the history books right so it's like some point something shifted and i've been doing a lot of research into this looking at a lot of old newspapers and articles and everything even dating back from the 1700s trying to find some information about this. But, you know, and I don't know if this ties directly into Tartaria or what exactly

happened, but I do feel like there was something that was kind of covered up around that time. Well, I think it's, yeah, I think there's definitely like they're trying to control the narrative. I think people call the old world all of it Tartaria, but I think it's probably a little bit more complicated than that. You know, like that there's just really old civilizations on every single continent. And in order for us to kind of talk about it, we call it Tartaria, right?

There's definitely stuff here. You can dig anywhere in America probably and start finding stuff. One of the weirdest things that I found, you know, just talking and to back up what you were saying, Sam, is that when I was researching the like old civilizations in Mesoamerica, like around the bizarre instance of the Olmec heads, like I was telling you guys about, one of the things that I found is that they found clay in Ohio that only exists in Mesoamerica in that area up in Ohio.

And there's no other place in the world that that clay exists. Like I can't tell you exactly off the top of my head exactly where in Ohio they found it. But if that's true, means that there was a trade route at least going from Mesoamerica all the way up into the Ohio River Valley right and we find some of the similar like some similar things you can find in LA so we have no idea no idea what was going on here you know like around the the like 800 BC time period how big that's

civilization was. There were trade routes. There were objects in Mesoamerica that you could only find in China during that period down in Mesoamerica. I mean, there wasn't a Silk Road. There isn't, why wouldn't there be a Silk Road for America? Yeah. For Latin America. Exactly. Very, very true. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting too, but these like these mountains and these mounds, you know, there's all these mounds where they think there was like a cult rituals done on that. But they found mountains where they kind of cleared the dirt and brush off and their pyramids. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Exactly. And they're all over the place. And they're on these lay lines, too. Like, so may these pyramids appear at these exorcists of pyramids? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

I mean, like, we're just not being told what was happening here. And most of it is, I really think, that it would destroy the narrative that it's been given to us by science. You know, it's so much simpler this way. Yeah, well, you know, there's the Piri-Rest map, too, which is from like the 1500s. And they've kind of written it off as like, well, he was just putting this together from old maps. And it's just based on what he knows. But when you look at the Piri-Rist map, he wrote, he drew Antarctica and Antarctica without

snow and specific structures and animals that don't even exist in today's world. But I was just reading about this today. So in the 60s, I found an old newspaper article on newspapers.com that mentions that he drew very specific icebergs around that area in the map and a set of them that is how they are in real life. In other words, like he just, somebody saw this. Somebody actually was seeing this and recreated this and it changes the whole narrative. And the map is a little bit hard to kind of understand how to read, but, but it's he, he drew it as like a circle. So instead of being like a north and the south part or, you know, bottom and the top, it's like you kind of turn it as like a circle and then

you have Africa, you have South America. But this is, or, um, I'm sorry, it was the 1400s because it was like 30 to 50 years before Christopher Colomba set sale. But then they're also finding old Chinese coins. And I think they even found a sword recently around like somewhere around Arizona that was almost from like a thousand years ago. So, you know, it's like I think there's just so much that has been covered up from our history.

And I think that if, you know, in this tie. back into the UFO disclosure because it's like, I feel like UFOs is kind of like the gateway drug, you know, it's like once you talk about that or Bigfoot, then it kind of leads to all these other things. Oh, what about this? What about that? What about this? You know, and I think that's why they're trying to control the narrative so much. But eventually, like, all of this is just going to be a floodgate and people will understand the truth and what's been hidden from us. And it's all going to come back down, I think really about religion and faith and how, you know, they've just been wanting to control our future by cutting off our past. Yes. And it's a lot easier to do that

with a society, especially a society where you're kind of uprooting the spirituality of that society like the Chinese government did, you know, with their own people during the culture revolution. But that kind of, but that kind of gets into. why Rob and I created Edge of Wonder in the very, very beginning. Like Rob was kind of talking about that in the beginning. And it's like, you know, the reason why, like, I wanted to do this was because it's like, I had all these strange and unusual experiences growing up where everyone just kind of assumed I was like imagining things or whatever.

And I'm like, I want to give people a safe space where they feel comfortable talking about these things, whether it's an alien abduction, having an angelic experience. seeing like ghosts and paranormal things or whatever it is. Yeah, we're talking about their abduction. Yeah, yeah. And not feel weird about talking about it. Where we just, you know, like Rob was like, yeah, we're just like two normal guys on the surface just talking about this stuff. Making others feel comfortable and not taking it too seriously at the same time, you know?

And I feel like there's a lot of channels out there that just take this stuff really too, almost too seriously. And it's like, you know, there's only so far you can go when you're talking about giant reptilians, where you just kind of have to laugh at some point. Yeah. Enjoy the show. Guys, great show. Great show. So is the YouTube up, are you putting content or what are we doing here?

We are. Yeah. So we just recently, actually, I mean, that's, we just recently were releasing our reptilian series that we have. We're going to do some stuff for Halloween. We also actually have a Garden of Eden series that we're going to be releasing on YouTube pretty soon too So probably after some of the Halloween stuff that we'll do And we're going live

So we actually do two live shows a week We do it on Tuesday and Friday But because YouTube is like They like to kind of be exclusive We're keeping our YouTube show on Friday And then we have Rumble on Tuesday And of course we have our own plan They don't like it when you're

stream it to other platform? Yeah, they kind of will penalize you for it. Yeah, they want you to be first. They want you to just be on YouTube if you're going to be on YouTube, basically. Yeah, you can do it. You know, if you're a big enough channel, like, since we're just getting started, we just kind of were like, okay, let's just keep it kind of YouTube focused for right now until we'll see what happens.

And then we have our own website, Rise TV, which we have all of our content on, all of our videos. We have like over a thousand videos. Yeah, like Rise TV is the only reason we've been able to keep going over the last several years because, you know, people there are supporting our work and we're actually able to, you know, like eat and sleep like normal humans, thankfully. Beautiful website. Oh, thank you. It's gorgeous. Like you guys were the best. You guys are the best. It was, it's sad that they kneecapture momentum, man. But you're back. You'll get back.

at it. I feel like there's more stuff to talk to about than ever. And people are way more open-minded to it. So I think the future is bright, guys. And we're really happy who had you guys back on. And open door anytime you guys got any projects you want to promote. And we'd love to have you guys on. Thank you, man. Yeah. And I just wanted to say, too, Sam, that I'm an avid Sam Triple E fan. I follow everything you, even if I don't say it, I follow everything you do. I watch all your clips, all your comedy, all the shows

that you're on. If you're, whatever you're on a show, I always go and watch it. Thank you. I always have a good time. I appreciate it. I'm a huge Kill Tony fan. Oh, cool. And so, what I saw you on there a couple of times, I was like, no way, it's so cool. It's crazy. I taught Tony's stand

up. He'll tell you that. That's hilarious. He'll tell you that. And then, and now it's like this fucking huge like just it's you get there you go whoa this is way bigger than I thought it was yeah every time it's crazy it's two million news each

each video I've been like traveling to Austin here a little bit here and there and so I've been really wanting to see a show so well dude DM me man if you want to go to a show I'll get you a ticket dude that's awesome I would love to go

I'll hook it up man for sure and today is Rob's birthday too. Rob, happy birthday. Big 21 years old. Yeah, I wish. You look great, buddy. I'm getting into old man territory now. It's not so bad, dude. The aches and pains are bad, but there's a lot less. There's new pressures in new ways, but some of the old pressures are gone, and it's just, like I was telling Johnny on one of our shows, like I did a show and all these young people are like, hey, you want to go to a bar with us? I'm like, no, I don't. I go back to my hotel room and just go to bed and nap, dude. Like, shut it down, dude. It's not half.

And in that sense, it's great. Like, I show up everything in basically pajamas now. I don't give you. I kids. I stick a fork in me. I dress like a dad now. I could care less about looking good. I just don't care.

It's like so much better pressure now. So it's not bad, you know, it's not bad. It's like the dating in the world is just wild west. crazy now. So I'm happy. I'm out. Like, yep, you know, I'm just, you know, I'm done. So I enjoy it. It's not bad getting old. I don't mind it. Awesome. Well, hey, thank you guys so much for having us on. We always have such a great time when we come on here. And yeah, we love you guys. So thank you. Anytime, all time, anything we do to help, just ask. We're here for you guys. And again, thanks for coming on. And hope you guys enjoyed it. Let's enjoy the highlights.

Here's a clip from the latest broken sim. We'll go with something a little lighter. Milo is, he's done finally an interview now, and it seems he's serious about this whole thing, man. Like his conversion, if you want to call it that, he's calling himself like a Christian Muslim now. A Christian Muslim? I love that.

It's very confusing. The MMA of religions, just combining everything. And he started to kind of permanently wear that hat around, that hat you see all the Muslims wear. He started to dress like, Like it looks like a dog bowl on your head? Yes. He looks like he's in the Matrix as well.

He's starting. That's his look now. Yeah, he does. I'll just play a little bit. Neo, you can't win this. Oh, dude, he does. He looks like he's from the Matrix, dude. Totally. Remember when we had that guy on?

Remember when he had the other guy on Tiffal Hat? He wouldn't go into any Israeli shit? What guy? The other guy? The other guy? Not Milo, the other dude. Oh, did we? Oh, I don't remember.

No, I didn't realize he was on our pod. No, I have no memory of that. Yeah. I have no memory of that. Like, he has no memory of Israel ever doing anything wrong. My problem has always been that people think I'm joking and actually I'm telling the truth. I actually mean it. I helped to put the president in office in 2016.

Marga, which I was one of the founding architects on. You can't keep doing this thing. It's like saying those of extreme things. I absolutely 100% believe that gay couples adopt children to molest them. If I'm wrong, why don't they get girls? They do. They don't. Every other gay person has got this except you. I was never been attracted to a child.

There's a reason I stopped being homosexual. It's because for listeners, I just have to clarify. That's the BBC. Can I explain? Sorry, this is my show. This is the problem. This is a great promo. Podcast hosts who think they're the reason that people tune in.

I would describe myself as a non-practicing fight. We're going with Islamic. Catholic, Islamic. You've said in the past, loads of things about Islam. What's changed? I realized they were right about women. You got pushed out of this group, out of that group. There's only one or two groups left for you.

No religion has ever pushed me out. Islam will take you. There's no hating my heart for you. I think you're great. I watch this show religiously, but just want to make sure you're having fun. I don't think I've done that since the 90s. Are you okay? I'm an internationally successful multinogen.

What do you mean? Am I okay? I'm asking you to be real with me for a minute. I think I've ever been okay. That was crazy, dude. That's the best promo for a podcast I've ever seen in my life. So, I mean, what do you call himself? A Catholic, Catholic Islamist?

Is that what you say? Something like that. Yeah, I mean, we're just making shit up at this point. That's the beauty of living now. Even after that, I'm not sure he's serious. I don't, I probably not, right? I mean, like, I just think he played the game and he got like, he got kneecap, dude. And, like, he seems like an intelligently smart, fast, funny dude.

And not to renew your green card. It's crazy. Well, he claims that they didn't send the, they didn't send the notices. Yeah, but wouldn't you? You know when your green card's up, dude? Wouldn't you know when that's coming? Yeah, I guess. I don't know.

Maybe he's just a busy guy. Did you see, I know you did. This is rage, but it's not the rage, the same kind of rage as earlier. Colin Kaepernick, I mean, a man who benefited from adoption greatly, kind of took a swing at the whole, a swipe at, the whole institution, saying that, well, I'll just let, I'll just, Let the man use his own words here. Here you go.

My parents did a lot. Loved me. They gave me a strong foundation. Give me a great moral foundation. At the same time when it came to culture and it came to my blackness, like that just wasn't there. And I've seen a lot of these conversations. It's tough for me to say like definitively one way or the other. What are you talking?

talking about. And adopting a black child, like, you should do your work. You should do your work. And part of that work is also making sure that you have black folks around your child. Because there's going to be experiences, it's going to be knowledge, there's going to be insight that they have that you just can't give them. And you have to be aware of the things that you can't give them and go find that to be able to make sure they have the right supports in place.

Do you think that was something that he thought when he was having a wonderful childhood or something? It's absolutely stupid. Yeah. I go, well, so you don't think white people should adopt black people or they should go out their way when it's black people that gave you up for adoption. Such a good point. But, you know, you have to be indoctrine. You're on your own. And it was white people that took you in.

And the notion that there should be some kind of like, like fine print. and this boxes to check to love a child is absolutely ridiculous, dude. The world is a thousand times harder when you don't raise up with parents watching out for you and teaching you the ways of the world. It's absolutely ridiculous. Like, that's the dumbest, this guy is so dumb. And the only reason he started doing this is because he got benched. his brand was done

and it's just just the way he talks if I was him I would be like should white people adopt black kids 100% because black parents gave up on a black kid

and kids need love and it's absolutely ridiculous for him to say anything other than that it is incredibly hard to make it whether you're a white kid black kid Hispanic straight gay kid whatever, to make it without adults teaching you the way to maneuver this whole thing.

Yeah, I mean, it's just ridiculous. Did you see they were trying to get the bears to call him? They were like, why aren't the bears calling Colin Kaepernick? The guy has played football. How long? A decade? Ten years. And he had a trial out and nobody wanted him.

So, I mean, the idea that he, I mean, it's just people muckraking, I guess, or stirring up the, stirring the shit. trying to get him his name out there but have you noticed by the way the longer he's out of football the bigger his afro gets that's uh i've noticed that like the the least likely he has to play football the bigger his afro gets he becomes more of a

what i mean because eventually that guy's just irrelevant right nobody will remember his name he's not no he has the crowd that he's playing to they just want to hear this shit and it just doesn't even make any sense and they're like yeah speak your truth and it's like i would have been like hey man, you were going to be in a foster care, which is brutal,

and two people adopted you and showed you love to the point you were able to be a functional quarterback in the NFL for a couple years. Why are they the bad guys? Oh, though I'm not saying to the bad guys. Why? Why? Why should they teach black culture? Black culture abandoned them. Yeah, I don't. I mean, I guess their thought is what?

that you're going to have to deal with a society maybe that is, is that what they're thinking? Like, you're going to have to deal with cops, and so you should be taught about that, or is it something? Like, you should know who the Fugis are. Like, you know, you should know who the Fuchis are. You should know who the Fuchis are.

You know what I mean? Like, what does that mean? All culture, not just black culture. All culture is contrived intelligent agency think tank, fucking demonic programming. And the fact that you think that someone should be taught demonic programming is ridiculous. Especially now when we find out the entire black culture thing was just led by like people who present themselves as a person who they weren't from Malcolm X.

The only real one, the two real ones were Malcolm X and DMX. Both the Xs. Okay? We're the real ones. The rest of them, it's all contrived shit. Even Martin Luther King, we find out he had very much P. Diddy vibes to him. I have to defend the Reverend Jesse Jackson. I'm sorry.

Oh, you mean the guy that dragged Martin Luther King to the hotel and then admitted in court that they stepped aside so they can get a clear shot? Like, what are we doing? If you'd like to hear the rest of this episode, subscribe. to Broken Simulation in your podcasting app or check us out at YouTube.com slash Sam Tripoli.