Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #119: The Black Cube with Magnora 7
Episode Date: August 28, 2018Welcome to another amazing episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli. This episode the guys welcome the creator of Said it.net, Magnora 7, back to the show to discuss the cloak and dagger world of the ...Black Cube Creative Intelligence. This episode is mind-blowing. Thank you so much for all of your support and we hope to see you at one of our upcoming live events. Sept 5th- The Comedy Store at m8pm Sept 14th and 15th- The Corner Comedy in Niagara Falls Canada Oct 12th: The Punchline Philly Oct 14th: The Syracuse Funny Bone Nov 3rd: The Secret Group in Houston Nov 4th: Stateside Theatre in Austin Texas
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So that's the business.
Hey, oh. That's the bit. How are you, Ryan?
Live in, loving man. We've been looking forward to the return of last week due to some my effing up, okay?
Because I don't have an assistant, no one's helping me.
So we messed up, but it ended up being a good episode with the Chinese episode that everybody seemed to really love.
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
So this guy was nice enough to move back.
He was literally going to do our show to the one year anniversary of doing the show. That's right. But, you know, it didn't happen on that,
so we're probably have them back up.
Do you want to introduce him?
Yeah, I mean, you've heard him before
when we talked about the Rothschilds,
and now we're gonna talk about something else nefarious.
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I know it's been a year. Why to name my Magnora 7? I don't know. Honestly, I made it up
on the spot like five years ago. I retired an old name I had and I just made that up and it stuck so I've stuck with it.
Magnora. What is magnora? Do we even know what that, what is that? It's literally, I literally chose the thing that had the least Google
Google matches that I could come up with. So I just like went for something as unique as I could come up with and that was what I came up with.
Wow. So, so what do you Google least googled thing ever? I was just like trying all these names and googling them and see which had the least results and so on. So, but apparently there's some company now named Magnor or something.
I don't know if they stole it from me or what, but it's kind of funny.
I thought we had a lot more in common.
I thought maybe it stood for magnums and seven inches.
Oh, I guess that.
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room let's not talk about our penis sizes. Is that a red light or is that a
green light by the way? What is that? Red light or a green light?
They gave her a water bottle to spray us like we were like traveling. I like
that. I like that. So tell us about your new website too. I don't know if it's new, but I know you've been growing. I think you were doing it last time you're on. It's kind of, I don't
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It's, we're actually developing it right now.
It should hopefully come out in a week or two and we're going to keep refining and making it better.
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Why Android first is it just cheaper to do that?
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stuff but we did it in this program called Zamorin, which does both actually, so it's real kind of easy for us to spit out both.
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It kind of takes a while, so we're doing Android first.
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and we're not gonna disclose that at this point,
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million dollars in capital cash to build the thing all over the world.
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It probably happened at some of the tech companies too during the first tech boom.
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So I listen to your episode, to be honest with you, I don't listen to a lot of any kind
of podcast outside of a couple sports ones.
I should listen to my friend's podcast a little bit more.
I listen to everybody's here and there. You know Ryan be like, oh, you got check out this episode. It's really good. And, you know, today I was listening to your appearance
on Greg Carlwood's podcast and, you know, it's one of my favorites. And wow, a lot of great
information coming out on that. And one of the topics that you touched on was the Black Cube special intelligence agency, a private agency, and
right and all that stuff. What a interesting world we weave. So why don't we get into it?
For those that don't know, Ryan, you want to kick us off with a little stuff and then we'll
get into it. Let's definitely start there. That's a great starting point. Let's unpack it all. For those I don't know, go ahead and lay it all out for them, what is, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, th. th. th. th. the, th. th. the, th. the, th. th. th. the, the, the, thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they they they they they to. they they they they they they're, they they they're they they they they're go ahead and lay it all out from what is the Black Cube I mean it's creative correct? Yes a black cube is
it's a company that was started in 2010 so it's a pretty recent company but it's
all former Israeli intelligence operatives basically and they've only got like a
hundred or so employees but it's a very powerful company and the reason it came up in the first place was we were
talking about all these kind of coincidental suicides that may not have been
suicides and one of which was Anthony Bordain that we were focused on for a
while and part of that we were talking about Asia Argento is his girlfriend, his
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let's just look into this whole Me Too movement.
It's like, there's so, it's so honorable, like, like, hey, man, we got to make it so
women can come to work and not get sexually harassed after we just did a magnum joke with our soundboard lady but after
that right I mean we all go okay that's an honorable thing like we should have
a place where women could come to work and not have to get you know hit on
constantly and then you know it starts off as like you know the grabber by
the pussy kind of kind of launches this movement right and this
notion that guys think they can just grab girls by the crotches and women have to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I I I I I I I I th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. the. the. the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a the a that. the a the a the And this notion that guys think they can just grab girls
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And then we find out that that video is put out by Matt Lawler
and we talked about this on past episodes.
Matt Lawler puts it out and finds out he has a rape desk
where he has a button he can just push and doesn't allow women to leave his I mean and now with this Asia thing that's just to me insanity you know you guys kind of talked about it on Greg's podcast about like
how much at the highest elite levels how much sexual deviance this is I do want to do a
uh... an episode called kukapalooza right where we just kind of get into like how many kids of famous people that
they're, that's probably not their dad. It's most likely not their dad. And that they're all just
kind of just, all, just everybody at that highest level is kind of like the town bike and everybody's
riding them and whoever gets stuck with, you know, and then you gotta force this lie out. And it's, so we get to Asia and it turns out she's shady, you know, like she's got some
shit.
Just this last week it came out, yeah, she's, she was abusing some like 17 year old guy and
then they settled out a court for like $380,000.
But she was like the spearhead of the spearheads and then now she's done the same thing that she is trying to accuse Weinstein of basically.
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with a 17 year old boy because if that was it.
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And you're like, and we got this thing in this country where it's very hard for us to see females as predators.
But I think this whole Me Too movement and the quote grabber by the pussy is now making
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knuckleheads to begin with.
One, he's now dead.
He died in 2016, but still good to mention.
His name is Mere Daghan. of Masad and he was the honorary president of the board. So for those who don't know what
Masad is, that's the CIA for Israeli. That's, there's no more deep state than that. So that's starting out.
Then we got Major General, I'm gonna butcher all these because they're very much, but Giora Eland, he's a former
head of the Israeli National Security Council, so we're now doubled up. Lieutenant Colonel Ify, Your Hanley, former head of unit F.O. 4, it's an Israeli Special Forces.
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Yep, that's a weird one.
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He's like, what? What?
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Like, I got to imagine. What is this guy doing?
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Sam.
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It's there all year around.
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somewhat like go all the major religions go back to the black cube in a weird way, right?
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oh wow dude I never even knew that I've always heard it but I never knew that
how that worked and then we just pulled up a diagram of basically how the
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I mean, it could be like someone came up with these explanations later
and kind of like applied them backward to explain the past, but I, you know, it's probably
a little both honestly.
Yeah, for sure, man, for sure.
So the black cube sat in the black box. Tell us a little bit about
go on black boxes black box is a good phrase to I think black cube it brings to
mind a black box and an engineering of black box is a thing where you don't know
what's going on inside you don't know how it works you just know the inputs and the
outputs and what goes on inside is a mystery. It's almost like let's
let's make a deal right like what's what's behind in the black box?
Yeah, yeah, so it's like it kind of implies that the company does things for you, you give it money here and it does outputs,
but you don't need to know what's really going on inside.
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for it. That's so interesting. So it's a private company. Tell us a little bit
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And then thirdly, there's another Israeli intelligence agency called Shinbet, which is also
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other and then. Holy shit man. So the Black Cube's always been around for only eight years? Yeah, Black Cube was 2010 is when it was
founded. So it's brand new but it's you know it's it's full of these people.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was like a shell company like FBI and stuff will
create these companies like front companies and then do stuff with them and
then that company becomes discredited and then they just close down the company.
Yeah, think about Blackwater. Just change the name, rebrand. Exactly, yeah, XE and then Academy, they rename themselves.
Yeah, I think Black Box is probably just, it's just a front company and they're going to do a bunch
of dirty shit with it and then they'll shut it down like five ten years from now and then
pretend like nothing happened. Oh my god. is complete cloak and dagger shit, dude. Clok and dagger shit.
Well, it's just like Monsanto. I mean, they start, it starts coming out in all these courts
that they're, you know, glyphosate is cancerous, and then all of a sudden they merge with Bayer
and retire the Monsanto names and now everything's just They made the gas, that gas during the final solution.
It's unbelievable how money and power
allows you not to deal with the ramifications of your actions.
Bayer invented heroin, which is another episode coming down the way.
We just got to find the right ex-herowin rock and roll guy hanging around Hollywood. Yeah that's interesting because I used to give
heroin in hospitals. Heroin's a brand name made by Bayer and then they became
an illegal drug and now they use morphine which is just an analogous
compound but slightly modified but morphine is legal and they use it in
hospitals all the time but then heroin which is basically an analogous drug that was 50 years earlier is now like super illegal Oh my god
Oxy cotton now we got fentanyl
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Vincent Chung is the largest holder of Cambridge Analytica, yeah, which was Trump's, PRRPT machine basically that Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And 4chan and spammed Reddit and Facebook and everything.
I mean, Hillary had share blue and Trump had Cambridge Analytical.
They're just two sides of the same coin.
But it's, it's, you know, these giant farms of people posting on the internet pretending
to be real people or having 50 accounts each and pretending to be real people and they can create the appearance of consensus in a crowd when there isn't any and that's they sway people.
They basically, they basically specialize in astroturfing right?
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Social media was simply
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Because when you look into Facebook Twitter
Almost any other these huge, huge websites
of social media, there is a dark hand involved.
A dark arts, deep state, whether it's CIA or FBI, that helped create this stuff and it's
so interesting to me.
You could make the same argument about television and radio and other mass communication.
I mean, a lot of them actually, maybe you could say at first, kind of start opening people's
eyes and then like the people in power started realizing like, hey, this is like showing people's
stuff we don't want them to be shown. And then they like kind of harness it in and then they've got it rained in real tight for a few decades and then a new technology comes their........ And their. And their. And their. And their, their, and their, and their, and th. And then, and the, and the, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, and then, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th...... And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, th thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, their, their, their, their new technology comes out and they have to like start the process over again. So I kind of personally feel like they've just really figured out how to game the internet
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over message boards and stuff whenever we want.
And well the last two years there's been an effort to control it even more. Yeah, yeah, the election was nuts. The 2016 election to
internet became a madhouse because of these fucking organizations, to be
honest. Yeah. I mean the government, the US government passed a propaganda bill
that allowed them to use propaganda. So literally, I would tell you over the last two years,
we have seen a movement to, you know, when Alex Jones calls it the
info war and I'm not an Alex Jones guy tea, he can do his own thing, it's not my
thing, you know, but when he calls an info war, I mean he was so ahead of the time on
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I mean, if people believe in the idea of, like, America's the best country ever, then they
will defend a war if we get attacked.
It's like that kind of thing.
It's all about priming people's mindsets to be in the populace is already known to probably react in the way they want people to react.
So yeah, it's just like a honing system.
It's like you're training the herd if you're one of these billionaire guys.
I mean, that's basically the effect of the media.
And then you're someone like Jeff Bezos and you just buy like the Washington Post
and then you can just print, you know, I make a deal with the CIA. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean like you make it
Do you guys think that they paid him six hundred million dollars to
Basically control the Washington Post or do you think it had something to do with him creating?
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bring her in as our third person that's hilarious dude just to ask her a million
question we should totally do that, dude. That's, we'll get one and we'll make Alexa the third person on our podcast.
But, and they also realize they've studied people so much that they realize, like, within
this show, right?
We are constantly having debates by we, I mean me, having constantly debates with people who believe none of this and no
matter how much information I bring they don't want to believe it because their sources
will never tell them all this stuff and what they've realized is these people can get when
people research something that they don't want to believe in they're actually looking
for reasons not to believe it than actual looking for any information to believe it. So when you go to a website it, it, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they will they will they will they will they will they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll to to to to to th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. their their their their their their th. their th. th. their th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their th. their their their their their their their their their their their their thi their thi the. their their their their to to to to to to to their to to to their their their the. their their it, than actual looking for any information to believe it.
So when you go to a website,
it will literally say in the title of the fucking article,
debunked blah blah blah conspiracy does not true,
and nobody reads it.
They just, they get the information they want from that title,
and they're like, look at this,
fucking Time magazine says that Q is the their their their their their their their le and they're like, look, dude, look at this, fucking Time magazine says that Q's full of shit,
regards to what you think of Q,
and he says it's been debunked and it's not real,
or like pedo gay. It's been debunked,
dude, look at this article, says debunked,
it doesn't make any sense. And they don't. And then everybody's looking for Russians when it's basically come out, this Cambridge and
Alec guys were even way worse than anything we thought Russia was doing.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, and everyone just kind of turns a blind eye.
I mean, it just really shows how well the media can control people's outrage.
Not everyone, but like a lot of people, like really just buy whatever the news media puts out and they don't think, like, this
is a corporation trying to influence me to behave certain ways. And, like, you know, it's
hard to step outside that context. Like, I was just having this discussion, the
local news whenever you watch it. They, what they spend time focusing on shows you what they think you think the priorities should be.
Like they're trying to tell you this is important by spending 10 minutes on it,
and this is not important by only spending 30 seconds on it.
But they just completely gloss over important stories as if they're nothing.
And then they spend like very long amounts of time focusing on nonsense,
like just trivial nonsense. And it's amazing to me how many people don't put that together
and just step back and be like,
hey, this is not in proportion.
Like this is trying to influence.
It's kind of a subtle way to influence people
because you're not like telling them anything
or denying them anything.
You're just, it's all about the made me think of our topic today. He was wearing a hat that said, make Orwell fiction again.
That's a great hat, dude.
And you know, and what happens is, you see it's happened so much, that they ignore a story
for so long, and then it gets so big on the internet that they have to acknowledge it or else the facade of that there's a real news agency completely crashes and burns.
Right, exactly.
And, you know, with the shooting in Jacksonville, and this is, and we'll get back to BlackCube,
you know, it's just like we've been doing stories on false flags forever.
And you know, false flag versus hoax, hoax, nobody dies.
False flag, somebody 100, people, 100% die.
But once again, what's going on in there during this fucking
shooting, what's going on, drills. A drill is going on, the local news acknowledges
a drill going on and you're like, okay, it by itself doesn't mean anything when
every single time these high-impact events happen in the news there's a
fucking drill that's a sign of something. Or in the closed circuit televisions won't work all the the cameras the
ATMs nearby every because you know
that's how it happens to they happen to go down there's a little glitch in
the system at the exact same time
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We've been waiting for someone to mention this because if we talk about it, we wear or to
wear a tinfoil hat, so go on, yeah.
But yeah, it's, well yeah, so like, the people get arrested and bail so the guy gets it the guy gets out zero bail they found a
child skeleton in the tunnels underneath this compound his kid clearly like
children had died and they'd like hidden him down there and then and then they
let the guys out and then they bulloes the entire place
destroy all the evidence like three days later and the judge lets them off and then like like that's it and then the news media
just kind of like oh yeah you know like oh this happened okay on to the next
story it's like no dude like there's like a fucking ISIS training
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who finally gave a shit.
And then like, it just all gets kind of paved over and disappears overnight.
And then the news media just is like, uh, you know, moving right along.
That's all those kids in like Africa or whatever, the media wouldn't shut up about that for like months and it was terrible.
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Cuba? What about the information that just came out that, uh, the wife of Stephen Paddock was
basically it's been, she applied for a loan and she put down her employer was the FBI
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Democrats instead of the Republican. This is the left's version of 9-11. This really is. This is the
left's version of fucking weapons of mass destruction where the right bought into chemical
weapon and the fucking Iraq and we're all behind war. Now the right bought into chemical weapon and the fucking nukes in fucking Iraq and we're all
behind war.
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an emotional response to that.
I can respect that people are like, we need, we need answers, we want blood.
There's in a weird way you can understand the emotional effect of that.
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losers, you know, they are sore losers and they can't even and when you bring
up the primary when she's so obviously fucking rigged, they have no answer for
that. Right or the fact that you know like Qatar funded like 20% of Hillary's
campaign, like where's the outrage about that? That's just like the Russia thing like
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It's just ridiculous.
Dude, if you go to a pig farm if you're going to go to Washington DC looking for corruption, throw a cat, hit somebody, that's a corrupt person.
So this stuff that they're getting on, Maniford, it's all about when he worked with the Podesta group, okay?
And the stuff about fucking Cohen, it's all fucking, it's all tax evasion. His lawyer, this Laney Davis guy, right, is a fucking registered foreign agent for the Ukrainian government.
Who works with who? Hillary Clint? I mean, like, dude.
It's like, if you do the actual reason.
I mean, you want to talk about foreign influence. We have like 35 congressmen that have dual citizenship.
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I'm you know I earned my DUI. It's ridiculous. Let's get back into the Black Cube. Anyways, yeah, let's get in the Romania. Did you have more on Cambridge analytics? Okay.
Yeah, I want to say more on Vincent as well, Vincent, the major shareholder.
Yes, he's got like a hundred and thirty foot yacht named Veni Viti Vichy, which means I came,
I saw, I conquered, which is very egotistical.
His family also owns a building with outdated fireproofing.
You remember the, the London Grenfell Tower fire, it killed 72 people last year.
He owns that? No, he doesn't own that, but he owns a building that is exactly like that
with the same fireproof cladding that isn't being replaced. And he refuses to replace it. And
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Oh really? Oh Jesus. Yeah, it was a very famous case. They were they go back inside.
Don't worry. Why the place is fucking burning dude. They want to clean out that area.
That's how prim and proper the British shot. Yeah, follow the British shout out. Right, right. Yeah, follow the rules even if it's on fire.
It's a little hot.
Unbelievable.
This guy, so this Vincent Chung was guy, he's Iranian-born London businessman, and then
he also had a allegedly a roll of collapsing the Icelandic bank cap thing, which was a nationalized
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that he was like playing a role and bringing those down too.
So in 2011, one year after it was founded, Vincent hired Black Cube.
They, basically they tried, Vincent tried to do a lawsuit and it ended up failing. And then Black Cube sued Vincent for not paying his bills, and then Vincent tried to do a lawsuit and it ended up failing and then Black Cube
sued Vincent for not paying his bills and then Vincent sued Black Cube for
overcharging him and then their countersuits like balanced each other out
and then they settled out of court for undisclosed details.
Dude you have to have balls to sue Black Cube. Yeah Black Cube sued him in London and and then he countersued them in Israel, which is interesting.
It's like how the Church of Scientology made the IRS back down.
That's balls.
That is balls.
Operation Snow White.
Oh my God.
So this guy, this is the main shareholder of Cambridge Analytica, this Vincent Chungwiz, so that's
him.
Yeah, people don't realize that.
They were bragging about they've been influencing elections for like 30 years or something
like that.
They like take pride in it.
And then furthermore, so an ex-Cambridge Analytica employee just came out in March
of this year and said that Cambridge Analytica had hired Black Cube directly.
And Black Cube and Cambridge Analytica both denied it in front of the British Parliament
when they were called the task.
But yeah.
Is this before after they sued each other?
I think it was later I guess yeah it would have been after.
You know it's like when area everyone's like area, area 51, it's a fuck, see, blah, blah,
blah, I'm like, I'm like they sued the US government.
People like, no, they didn't.
Then you go, you're like, yeah, this made up area that forever people denied existed.
The employee sued the US government.
It's so fucking interesting, dude. Yeah, that reminds me of like, like was a court case that found that the government in fact
did kill Martin Luther King Jr. They actually had a court case and ruled that way.
Almost nobody knows that.
What?
Oh, we're bringing you back for that one.
We're bringing you back.
Yeah, the FBI did it.
And they, they were sending him blackmailto like make goad him into suicide basically and and and yeah and then once he was killed basically they were found the FVI did
it I mean it was kind of known in this in the like conspiracy communities or
whatever but yeah it was found in a court of law. Does it ever creep you out
looking into Black Cube because I know oh I hang out on the central intelligence agencies website like all the time so you really do that that that that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. I they. I was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the they. the the they. the they. they. they. they. I the they. I th. I the like all the time. You really do do that. That's the weird thing.
I love showing Sam that.
And he's like, you're doing that for my IP address?
Only from Sam's.
But let me follow your computer real.
How is your level of paranoia since you've been digging into this?
I mean, it's not a fun thing to look into, but you know, I'm not like adding fuel to the fire. I'm just showing things that are already known.
So it's just, you know, it's, I'm not like creating any new narratives or
pushing any crazy stories.
I mean, this is literally just like, this is what the news is for people who pay attention.
Yep, dude, that's why we do it's like, we don't break any news. we just talk about what's out there. It's the guys who go and like try to find the evidence
to prove something.
They're the ones they get, and I'm not trying to make a joke about it.
That's literally true.
They, they go wherever the child trafficking is and they,
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let's get it yeah yeah yeah I know you want to talk Romania then we'll get
into the fake news real quick yeah let's sit the Romania thing so Romania
in April 2016 two of the company employees were arrested in Buchar-Ished-Ir harassing. They were cyberhousing the chief prosecutor
of the Romanian National Anti-Corruption Directorate.
So the person in charge of anti-corruption measures in Romania,
Black Cube was targeting this person,
spying, fishing, cyber harassing this person.
The two employees were eventually convicted on charges of hacking and harassment by the Romanian government.
After sentencing, the company reached an understanding with the Romanian
authorities and the two employees were magically released and returned to
Israel after a few months. Where else have we heard this? Yeah, Israeli art
students, right? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. They are all fucking released and get put on
planes and sent back. How badass do you have to be to be released from Vlad the Imperilor's homeland?
This is like Dracula comes from Romania.
Yeah, Bucharest, dude.
Yeah, translavia, yeah.
Yeah, Jason Bourne couldn't get out of that shit.
That's fucking crazy, dude.
Yeah, I just, I gotta wonder what kind of under the kind of exactly happened there. That's so interesting. I'm not gonna lie, I'm gonna completely try to fake some Black Cube credentials.
No!
Just try to walk into like every place in LA, just like, just flash real quick, Black Cube.
I don't know you.
I do not know you, even though we are on the same podcast.
I don't know who you are. So they don't play by the rules, right they like they they they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they they they they they they don't, they they they they they they they they they don't, they they they they they they they they they they they they to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. the. the. the. the. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. to to to to to to to to to to to to fake interviews to gain information on people. Right, right. Yeah, so this is another thing they got caught doing in November 2017, Black
Cube set up a fake recruitment firm, and they flew employees and former employees of a hedge
fund company to London for fake job interviews. Like they had a fake conference for
hedge fund people, and they invited and paid for former hedge fund workers to come to the conference
specifically in order to gain proprietary information about the hedge funds they used to work for.
So, New York Times reduced a story about this, Black Cube refused to comment.
And then in New York State, private investigators are required to be licensed,
but the Times could not find a license for Black Cube or BC Strategy, which is their current company. Oh my god dude. So they don't even exist, they're just shadows.
Oh yeah, of course. Legitimate spooks. Yeah. And then you know just like the
remaining thing if something goes wrong, they've got connections where they
can you know get those people out of jail and get them back working again.
Yeah, flash them your card, flash on the bus pass. So tell me a
little bit about the catalyst capital group. Yeah, so another company, another
incident, a catalyst capital group is a Toronto investment firm. So there's also, there's
another company that's kind of like Black Cube called PSY group like
psychology. Side group is also caught pitching a medium manipulation campaign
but this Toronto-based investment firm West Face Capital alleges that
Capital, Catalyst Capital hired Cy Group and Black Cube to basically get them to
win this telecommunications bid. So like the government was giving out like a
multi like tens of billions of dollars telecommunications bid. So like the government was giving out like a multi like tens of billions of dollars telecommunications contract and this
company a cattle's capital group hired Black Cube to make sure they get that win
that bid. Oh my god dude it's like it's just like you got to have money to
make money almost right? Yeah.
Just like and there's some people that, and you wonder why they look at us like cattle, right?
Because they just know how to fucking, they play us like a guitar and they make us fucking
well.
Yeah, yeah, they were always a long time ago that, you know with cattle you can just build fences.
But with human beings, you don't build fences, it's too obvious. You have to build ideologies.
And people get trapped in their ideologies.
And that's how you corral people and get them to act certain ways.
Wow, dude.
Wow.
So they were using shady.
They were defaming people.
Yeah. interesting dude like I sometimes wonder like who I argue with like when people just come in so hard like on an opinion I go like this guy can't even be
real nobody really thinks like when they when they comment really hard on
comments like they're just like oh this is no way this is a real person they
never have their picture up the worst in the meanest comments are always
from people who don't have pictures up they just, and I'm like, oh, you're not a real person. You're just somebody who's been paid to come in there because, you know, you found out,
like, I'm sure there's people whose job it is, is to just go on the internet and find
videos and articles in which are pushing a certain narrative in which this company
doesn't want and their job is the counter. And then maybe not even with like like the environment, like the environment, like the environment the environment the environment the environment the environment to like like like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, like, their, they.e.i. So, they. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, they. So, like,then maybe not even with like information, but just counter by making the environment
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So like keeps people away just because it sucks to like interact with those people, not
even because they're giving out wrong information or whatever.
Unbelievable.
So I want to get into your last two cases you were talking about because they were both. Very interesting. Yeah, these are the real meat. This is the meat and potatoes.
This is it. And yeah, so we got a little time here. Let's, uh, Harvey Weinstein and Rose
McGowan. I think this is the most interesting thing. In particular, Rose McGown because she is such a,
a lightning rod when it comes to
this Me Too movement. She's called out everybody but yet she still walks the
earth whereas somebody like Anthony Bordain you know who's called out people is
no longer with us and we'll get into that but I just find that very interesting
why don't you talked about Harvey Weinstein in the Black Cube. So yeah
we can kind of go over the Harvey Weinstein saga a little bit, because there's some
interesting pieces with Ronan Farrow.
So in November 2017, Ronan Farrow, who is the son of Woody Allen and Mia Ferro.
Is he?
Is he?
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Yeah, Pulitzer Prize, oh, are you saying he's not?
Does he look like Woody Allen or does he look just like Frank Sinatra?
Oh, that's interesting.
I never heard that.
You gotta check out my episode coming out called Cuckapalooza.
All right.
All right.
Well, so, Ronan Farrell reported in the New Yorker that Harvey Weinstein hired Black Cube,
and he was kind of the one to break this whole thing and he won a Pulitzer pull pull pullthat article. Oh really? Yeah, he did, yeah. So, and then if you remember right when the scandal broke too
there was all these articles of Woody Allen coming out being like, oh, you know, we shouldn't,
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and won the Pulitzer Prize, now it makes sense that Woody Allen was featured so frequently in the
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like, you know, calm the waters a little bit.
I don't know.
There's a lot of possibilities, but it's interesting.
It is interesting, dude. So, yeah, so using false identities, their false identities, so theirhub use false identities, you know, Harvey
Weinstein hired Black Cube.
They used false identities, private investigators met and started mapping out all these people
that might, you know, be related to this scandal.
So they went after Rose McGowan was one of the e-people who was one of the first accusers
of Weinstein as well.
And over the course of year, Weinstein had Black Cube
and maybe other agencies as well,
quote, target or collect information on dozens of individuals
and compile psychological profiles
that sometimes focused on their personal or sexual histories.
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and uh... this is like a month before he died or was killed
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who are really fucking powerful and scary i had dinner with rose but i'm a Rose begowing and Rose is telling me, you know, these people are spying on me. People are saying they're my friends and they're in fact not my friends.
They're paid intelligence operatives.
And I remember thinking, look, I support you all the way, but in the back of my head,
I'm thinking, I don't know, I'm not so sure about this.
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which Italy is where she was cheating.
Aja Argento was caught cheating.
But anyways, so Bordain, also,
I've come to understand traveling around the world.
I see good people crush randomly under the wheel or buy bad things all the time.
As I see it happen to friends, not to be too paranoid, but I think they're doing a very effective job on Rose.
I don't know when the truth is enough anymore.
Yeah, I'm with you on that, man.
And you know, it's just like, we were having discussion before the show.
You had brought up, listen, if you guys want they do a wonderful discussion on this very dark
subject and you know we were talking about how there's three different
similar suicides within the wreath within like what four days yeah three
four days yeah and how nobody everybody had to be like that's got to be weird you know what I'm saying it's like like what you remember when that when um during the election there were all the the the the the the their the the the th. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the. the. the like, that's gotta be weird. You know what I'm saying? It's like, like, what, you remember when, when, um, during the election,
there were all these black men shooting white cops, right?
And they were all ex-military, and then they just stopped.
Then they just stopped.
And it was all within like two weeks of each other, and they haven't happened since. And it's like, okay, people don't realize that there are people who are strong enough,
powerful and dark enough to make these things happen.
And now we got these three people who, one of them is the sister-law or the sister of a comedian, so I'm not going to get into her discussion.
But the other two in particular, we'll just focus on Bordain.
They die from hangings, but it's, is it, Ryan, you were kind of describing it earlier.
It's not a classic, when we think of hanging, we think of rope and whatnot, hangman's noose.
It's not that type of hanging.
Could you fill it in exactly how it went down? Yeah, they're all basically
caught all these people were found hanging from a doorknob. So they weren't even hanging from a high
place. So which means if they did do it themselves, they would have died by asphyxiation rather than like
like hanging, like breaking your neck or you know, like actually hanging. So, so there's so there's no, the scarf doesn't go up in the scarf. the scarf. the scarf. the scarf. the scarf. the scarf. the s. the s. the s. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their their. their their their all. their all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they're all, there's no, the scarf doesn't go up in the
air, let's say, over like a bathroom rod back down to the door. You're saying it is straight
from neck, straight, they're, let's say basically, they're on their knees and they're
they're sitting usually. So, yeah, they're just like in a sitting position on the floor and then from their neck to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the their their their foot their foot their foot their foot their foot their foot their foot, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they're just like in a sitting position on the floor and then from their neck to
the doorknob, like a foot is all the rope.
And I think it would be extremely hard to kill yourself that way.
I mean, at some point you'd start to just asphyxiate and take it off.
I mean, because you could just stand up at any time.
Yeah, I mean, you would have to be either knocked out so you couldn't struggle or something.
And then, you know, there's no drugs in the Bordain system, no drugs in their system, no drugs,
and Kate Spade system, no drugs in the Dutch queen sister who died.
Like, none of those people had drugs in their system, but they, you know, they apparently
just had a bad day and hung themselves from a doororknob till they choked to death, which makes no sense to me. And I mean there's even just these quotes from
intelligence agencies from this guy Sawyer who was in a former CIA who's saying
it's like a it's a call signal but it's a calling card saying that this
person was put down because they went against the cabal basically.
And is that because the scarves are usually red in color?
Yeah, yeah, a lot of them are red and I mean the material like summer with a scarf,
summer with like a necktie, or Dana was with a robe from his bathroom robe at the hotel.
I mean, I mean, just, I don't know, it just doesn't seem, I don't think they killed themselves as possible,
but I think at least some of them were taken out.
It has to be so completely insane that three high profile people kill themselves in the exact
same way in which does not make any sense.
That's, right.
That's the shadeness.
And you know, and you guys talked about Greg's podcast about about like, you know, and Greg said like, you know, basically
Bordain was like JFK, like calling out everybody that you don't call out. Right, right,
because he did an episode on the Armenian genocide, which is like a big no-no.
Let me ask you something. You would mention that that you didn't think the Armenian government likes people talking
about the genocide.
Why would that?
I mean, I'm Armenian.
I have families involved in that.
I think I might have misspoke.
I think I meant the Azerbaijani and the Turkish governments don't.
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to get into this because we're running out a little time, but undermining the Iran nuclear
deal. Yeah. Well, before we change, I got to say, Bordain put out a tweet. That said both Trump and Weinstein used AMI, parentheses, inquirer, and Black Cube is really private
intel to do their dirty work. So Bordain specifically named Black Cube and AMI. So, and I would also like
to say I'm not necessarily saying Black Cube did all this stuff, but they, it's just- Everything's allegedly,
and I mean they just happened to be kind of be in the same places at the same time it could be a totally different agency I mean there's a lot of moving parts and a lot of hidden
parts with how this is going down but you know I'm just looking at what what is
obvious from where we sit and he also seemed to be in a very positive mind state
so you yourself don't seem to be a well that's everybody don't go close to any do no no I would never do I would never do. I would say that he, he said he would
kill himself, it would be by heroin. So, yeah, he said that in an interview. Yeah, he's like,
if I was going to go out, I would go back to heroin and because it's, it feels awesome. And
like, I mean, that's also how so he was just saying the same thing,
but with heroin and so,
but yeah, because they're the same drug basically,
but yeah, so I mean, I don't know.
This was a guy who had like been to dark places before
and kind of fought those demons,
and I think he was strong enough to not just though I'm having, you know, a bad day, and a real quick, you th, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th, oh, th, th, th, th, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, they, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, because, they, they, they, because, they, because, they, because, they, they, they, because, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, because, they, they, they, they're, they're, because, they're, they're, because, they're, they're, because, they're, because, they're, because, they're, because, they're, because, they're, because, they're, because, they're, because know, Asia is Asia Agaro, is that Argentino?
Argento.
Argento, I mean, just talk about bad juju.
This, this one most likely was involved in something traumatic as a child, allegedly.
Her father was very high up in the Italian film industry.
Wouldn't doubt if it was very much like the American film industry. A lot of dark
art shit going on. She basically, I mean like, you listen to her man, she's so nuts. Like,
she dates him, she fools around the 17 year old. He sues her. Bordain comes and throws in
the $300,000 to cover the deal and then he dies and then she comes out and blames him
for everything. I mean, I didn't, I didn't know that that 300,000 was before he died. I just heard
that recently I didn't realize that. Yeah, he had paid it out and she said it was his idea. Oh my god.
What a psycho man. Well, you just sometimes you just never know who you're hooking up with and this is for both men and women So you just never ever know you know
It's yeah, and then rose rose my going is going around saying that Asia and Anthony were in a quote open
Relationship or whatever, but I don't think he knew that you know what I mean? So problem is when you are an old man. What was he in a 60s? Yeah I think 50s 60s yeah. Yeah and you're
dating like a 30 year old like yeah you're you're dancing with the devil. Yeah
because most women don't want to date guys who are so much higher up you know I
mean some do but it's usually the crazies and they're phenomenal they're great
in bad but they you know there's some dark arts motherfuckers you know. And back to the Black Cube they'd like they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're like they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. th. th. th. the the the the the the. the. the. the. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're great in bad, but they, you know, there's some dark arts, motherfuckers, you know?
And back to the Black Cube, they came out, what's interesting, November 10th, 2017 and
apologized for working with Harvey Weinstein.
They actually said like, we made a mistake, we're sorry.
I'm just, they're probably still working for him.
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So let's really quick get into the undermining of the Iran deal. Yeah, so that there's an Iran nuclear peace deal and in May 2018 so just a few months ago
Black Cuba was accused of using false identities to seek damaging information about former Obama
administration officials and help undermine the Iran nuclear deal.
So as well as spying on high-ranking government officials, they also sent out emails and pretended
to be U.S. government officials themselves in order to undermine the Iranian nuclear deal.
So when they were first accused, they denied it, and then second later they obfuscated it and then
finally they later admitted it once the evidence was overwhelming.
Unbelievable, dude.
So, yeah, and they were compiling background information of several high-profile negotiators,
including these guys roads and call, and, you know, had their information, their addresses,
family numbers, makes of their cars, etc. And then Black Cube agents were instructedededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededed theired theired theired theired theired they they they they they they they they were insed they they were insed they were they their addresses, family numbers, makes of their cars, etc. And then Black Cube agents were instructed to find damaging information about them,
including unsubstantiated claims that they had worked closely with Iranian lobbyists before,
so they were trying to like paint them as biased, basically,
and were personally enriched their policy work in Iran, which they denied. So basically they're trying to like undermine this nuclear peace deal, just so like, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, I, I, like, like, I, like, I, like, like, like, I, like, I, like, like, like, I, like, I, like, I, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, I, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, and, their, and, their, their, and, their, their, their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, I'm their policywork in Iran, which they denied. So basically they're trying to like undermine this nuclear peace deal, just so like,
my thought is that they're, you know, they're headquartered in Israel and Israel's trying
to expand and take over the region and part of that is Iran, and so of course they don't want
to actually have peace in Iran.
They just want to like, the ball down the road till they see a good opportunity. The most interesting thing is how like I don't know if you've ever seen like a map of what they
call greater Israel have you ever seen that map? It's part of Saudi Arabia. Like the Saudi Arabia
realize like what I mean like yeah it says that the Holy Texa say from the Euphrates River to the Nile River so that would
be from you know like Turkey to the Nile River. So that would be from, you know, like Turkey to Egypt. Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean, I'm all for peace. I'm all for negotiating to everybody. I mean, and now we got China. Do you think Israel can get there, and listen again, when we talk to Israel, we're not talking to Jewish faith, we're not talking Jewish people. I have to say this all the time. I like Jewish people. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I'm th. th. I'm all th. I'm all th. I'm all th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm all th. I'm all to to to th. I'm all to th. I'm all to th. I'm all th. th. I'm all th. I'm all th. I'm all th. I'm all all th. I'm all th. Ithis all the time. I like Jewish people. Yeah, we all do. Jewish chicks are fucking hot And they like to get weird. You stopped yourself from saying claws and Jews in the same sentence
Huh, you're like, can Israel get their claws? I mean, I mean, like I heard no, no, no, no, yeah
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Can they get, I mean, I know they're working with China, but the Chinese are notorious for
working with you, getting all your technology and then kicking you off because Israel could
blend in in the United States, Canada, Britain wherever they want to, they can blend in.
It's very easy for them. That's true. In China, it's impossible. At the highest levels of the Chinese government, you can throw a cat and you you'll hit a Chinese person.
You won't get that cat back because it's got teriyaki sauce on it. But you know, but the truth is,
you know, it's going to be almost impossible. And in China, if you do like trees in your, there's no trial. It is like you are dead right there. Hey, Mag, I was following what you tend to highlight on your settet,
and I noticed that you're kind of into the same thing I'm into.
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Because that's the one thing I didn't see pop up yet. Why do you think they aren't already?
Have you heard about this back in May? There was 11 jihadists that were like taken out by the
Russians using a robot? What? Really? Wow. Like a walking robot or like a drone? Like a little like badass looking little like miniature version of like the Batmobile
with an M16 like AK on it.
Wow.
Yeah, that's 11 people.
That's crazy.
So yeah, that's what we get to look forward to.
And I'm glad that you mention alphabet ink.
If we don't ever mention anything more than the me and Sam Park are cars on some road tracks a couple weeks from now. You guys take the ball from there and continue to investigate them.
Yeah, we're gonna get we should have somebody who gets this podcast if we both
disappear. Yeah so dude I mean Iran then you hear the whole story that the and we
got wrap it up here but the uranium one deal the the uranium one deal and then make the deal with Iran and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theyranny and I I I I I I I the the they. the the they. the they. the the the the the the theyn. the the the theyn. theyn. theyn. theyn. I I I I I I I I I I Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. they. Ia. they. the. the.a. the.a. the. the.a. the. I. the. the. the. I. the. I. the. I. the. I. the. I. the whole thing was to make the uranium one deal and then make the deal with Iran and
then slip them some nuclear, some Iranian, let them set up a shop in in Syria, okay?
And then go, oh we discovered this in Syria and it's Russia's fault and that's how we get in the war with Russia? Yeah, yeah. It's like sprinkling the crack on the body is like the Dave Chappell joke.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, have you seen that YouTube video with Patrick Klausen, who's one of the spokespeople
for Winup, the Washington Institute for Near East Policy?
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Have you seen that where he stopped? Yeah, it's creating a false false false false false false false false false and he gave historical examples like Gulf of Tonkin
and Lusitania and I mean it's these that's where these people's binds are at. I mean they're
they want this war because it's profitable. I mean if you own a company that manufactures missiles
like hell yeah you want as much more as possible both sides you don't care you just want to
to sell missiles and a lot of people are in that position.
And you know, a lot of banks are like loaning money to these weapons manufacturers and,
you know, a sustainable business bond unless there's a war.
And so there's like all these industries that are kind of piggybacking on this whole
thing and it's like, they like have to have war or else their industry collapses. And so they will do anything they can do to get us to war, as Patrick
Klaus and put it. And you know, there's that quote by goring of like people don't
want war that you know people just want like the best anybody can get out of war
is to return home in one piece. Like nobody wants that. And so you have to goad
people into war by you know nationalism and by calling people cowards and calling
them out if they don't support it.
And it's the same way in every country.
And this whole love of John McCain and the liberals, like, I'm keeping notes of all the
liberal, and some of them are friends and I'm going to forgive one or two of them because
I love them as people.
And it's just the truth.
But the love the love the love of the love of the love of the love of the love of the love but the love of John McCain from the left is on this is a guy they call
a racist piece of shit when he's running against Obama now he's this loving
patriot like it's unbelievable to me yeah well yeah he was one of the biggest
architects of the Iraq war which you know all Democrats were opposed to back
when Bush was in power and you know now it's just I don't know it's
22 22 servicemen who ex-servicemen in the United States killed himself every fucking day because of the
trauma they went through in those fucking unnecessary banker wars so when you
and the lack of help they receive when they get back home. Yeah, just remember that when you love John McCain and you want to name a highway after him and you want his fucking wife to get, just remember that, dude.
Just remember that.
And look in the history of John McCain.
And Americans are paying for like nationalized health care for Iraqis and meanwhile, like in
the United States our veterans come back home and they're like sleeping in the streets. Like, what is, it just doesn't th. the the th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. And, thi. And, thi. And, they's, they's, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, they's, they's, they's, they're, they're, they're, they're, they's, they're, they's, the. And, they's, they. And, they. And, th. And, th. And, th. And,, what is, it just doesn't even make any sense. It's just all foreign policy, political, bullshit.
It's just ridiculous.
And it's, and it's the thing is once you see it as such, it's obvious, but a lot of
people don't see it that way because they, you know, grow up in this corporate propaganda
environment basically that teaches them to normalize these kinds of things. And it takes almost a brave person to step outside of that.
Like you gotta have some guts, like,
and a lot of people don't.
A lot of people are scared.
And I just think about moving from this town every fucking day,
dude.
Every day, moving to Vegas and just fucking doing it out of there
because it's just, the fucking selling out is so bad for a quick buck and a hope for a fucking chance to sell
a TV show and it just makes me super sad.
Yeah, it sucks.
And it's, yeah, I lived abroad for like a year and the health care I got in that country
was way better than anything I got here, you know, and way like a hundred times less expensive.
Unbelievable. We're going to start doing a lot of shows and I know that you keep
your location secretive but if we ever happen to pop up in your neighborhood we'd love to meet you
in person and you know we'll keep your secretive basically safe with us so yeah, where could everyone
find you on your social media and if they want to get a hold you or follow you on set it like
because man you're just go to set it, that's where it's all happening.
Well, we're in and I own $20 in stock, so I gotta get behind it, dude.
Magnorice said, we love you, please come on is, we'd love to have you on more often.
You're a wonderful interview, and appreciate you. Thanks for coming on
again. And hopefully it won't be another year till we get you on. We'd love to have you on earlier,
Bud. Yeah, man, thanks, Samra. I love being here. It's always a pleasure. I love it. today.
All right, man. Take it easy. Ryan, I love you and we'll talk to you soon, but all the time. You know what I mean? We'll have oil, we'll have, we'll have.